Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #192 - GOP Files Lawsuit Against Mike Pence To FORCE Him To Give Trump Win w/ Eric July

Episode Date: December 29, 2020

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia host guest and fellow YouTube Commentator and Blaze contributor Eric July to discuss the GOP suing Pence to demand he give Trump the electoral victory, Trump's legacy, the US spending problems, the lockdowns, anarcho-capitalism, the start of the Arab Spring, rule-breaking as a result of government overreach, the dancing nurses and doctors, and how to non-violently resist.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

January 6, Trump supporters are going to descend on Washington, D.C. for a peaceful protest. And Alex Jones says 10 million people are going to show up. It'll be interesting. We are currently planning on being there. We'll see if it actually happens. We just got some equipment. It's really amazing stuff that's going to allow us to do this show live from D.C. And we got some tech work around.

So as many of you know, I've been, you know, I used to work in the field exclusively and figuring out ways to get internet and do live coverage of big events is kind of my specialty. Now we've kind of been doing in-studio stuff. We got a plan. And it'll be really cool. We're hoping to get various people from the rally to come up and speak. People probably you know and love. But we'll see how it plays out. I say we're planning on being there because there's a lot of technical hurdles.

It's difficult. 10 million people really show up, it's going to be almost impossible to do any kind of show anywhere near DC because just people cluttering up the internet, then it gets jammed and shuts down. But it should be really interesting. A lot of people are saying some crazy things. They're kind of freaking me out. And a lot of people are saying some things like big Occupy DC rally. So we'll see how it plays out. But whether or not Donald Trump pulls off some triple lightning strike, quadruple lottery ticket victory, you know, is going to depend on the objectors in the House. And like, look, there could be some kind of Rube Goldberg type scenario occurring here where all of these pieces fall into place perfectly and then Trump wins. We'll see. I really don't think it's going to happen. But the big news,

several Republicans have filed a lawsuit against Mike Pence pertaining to that was the Electoral Count Act of 1887 to try and make him essentially count the votes so that Trump wins. It's kind of a crazy story, but I think it's more about public perception. And they're trying, it seems like they're trying to force Pence to make a public declaration that he's going to be supporting Trump. So we'll see how that plays out. We've got a bunch of other news too. We got this COVID relief bill passed. They increased the stimulus from 600 to 2000. So now we're adding on another like $500 billion to this omnibus package. Trump signed it. Democrats laughed at him and said we're not giving

you anything it's ours ha ha ha and then you know when i went out when i'll laugh and ran away we'll see how that plays out and then we'll talk about those crazy tiktok nurses and a bunch of other stories but hanging out so hanging out with us today is eric july hey man i'm here and i appreciate you having me man like seriously i know a lot of folks have wanted this to happen so oh i appreciate you people are people are posting in the chat all the time. Yeah, on my side as well. I'm like, guys, I don't think it works like that. You don't demand yourself. Nobody demands themselves on my show either.

But I was going to say, that's what gets people not on the show. Yeah, exactly. Keep them constantly saying it, constantly saying it. Yeah, same thing on my side. So I don't know why people do that. But either way, man, I appreciate you having me, man. All right, I think it's going to be interesting. Especially considering this massive omnibus bill. Oh, yeah. Getting your opinions will be cool. Yeah, we'll talk about it. Most definitely. So Luke's me, man. It's going to be interesting, especially considering this massive omnibus bill.

Getting your opinions will be cool. We'll talk about it. So Luke's here, too. Welcome back, beautiful, amazing human beings. This is a good ask if we are changed at all. It's great to be back on the Tim Foyle Wars broadcast here. Tim Foyle Wars. Tim Foyle Wars.

Yeah, yeah. That's a new name for the show, I think. It's great. Now, I'm still a free agent, but I was able to convince Tim to get a squatting deadlift power workout cage. So I'm going to be here for the foreseeable or forcible future doing deadlifts. Could you imagine, like, take a screenshot right now, and then in three months, Luke is just massive and ripped, and, like, he can't put his arms down? I've been bulking, or in other words, gorging.

Dude, yeah. Yeah, you ate a bunch of cupcakes and cookies last night. What are you talking about? You cooked them. I know. I baked cupcakes. I baked cookie cupcakes. They were very good.

Yeah, they were pretty good. I'm good. And they were filled with white chocolate and icing on top. That's fun. It was Christmas, man. I was bored. I was like, I'm going to bake some cookie cupcakes. We bake so much.

How can you say no? And I mean, you got to bulk, right, you you put on the muscles so no no what was it you watch it's always sunny where he's mac was walking with a garbage bag full of chimichangas and he's like i'm cultivating mass and dennis is like stop cultivating start harvesting well we're gonna do that in a little bit and uh i'm excited for that in three months you're not gonna be all buff and ripped're going to be just morbidly obese. Either way. Bulking up.

There's going to be more pushing for the cushion. All right. Well, Ian's chilling too. Hi, everyone. Guess what? I was so inspired by your amazing gorilla emojis that I made it happen, you guys. Yes. In lieu of Alex Jones, I'm a gorilla.

I'm not going to say it. It was just it's too crude yes but if you've read the book ishmael and you saw the alex jones episodes which you should you should watch if you haven't seen it yet uh they talk he talks about a gorilla yeah and so so now you have a gorilla i am a gorilla right on of course lydia is producing and she's pushing all the buttons pushing all the buttons in the corner right on and uh if you haven't already smash the like button there's a little thing that we have appear now in the top of the screen or whatever because uh i you know what i'll tell you this it works just to be

completely honest we added this thing where it's like smash the like button subscribe and share and then we've seen like our likes just go through the roof it's been great really does work and people you know liking really does have an impact on whether or not youtube recommends the stream to more and more people and uh so it's greatly appreciated. Don't forget to subscribe. Get the notification bell. Let's talk about the news. This is the first story we got. It's kind of is an interesting and weird story from Politico. Gohmert's suit may force Pence's hand in effort to overturn Trump's defeat. The vice president is set to oversee certification of Biden's electoral

college win. Man, I've been reading a lot about the powers that Mike Pence has. And of course, you've got Trump supporters saying Mike Pence is basically the judge with the gavel and he decides. But then you've got the left saying he's basically just like the clerk handing out, you know, tickets. You hand him the envelopes and he goes to the mailroom and he just passes out the things to the office. Well, let's read and see what's going on. They say Rep. Louie Gohmert, Republican of Texas, and Donald Trump's and President Donald Trump's defeated electors from Arizona may force Vice President Mike Pence to publicly pick a side in Trump's bid to overturn his election loss. Gohmert and a handful of would-be electors sued Pence in federal court

on Monday in a long shot bid to throw out the rules that govern Congress's counting of electoral votes next week. It's an effort they hope will permit Pence, who is tasked with leading the January 6th session of the House and Senate, to simply ignore President-elect Joe Biden's electors and count Trump's losing slates instead. The lawsuit asserts the 1887 law known as the Electoral Count Act, the vague statute that has long governed the electoral vote counting process with minimal drama, unconstitutionally binds Pence from exercising total authority to choose which votes to count, saying, quote, under the 12th Amendment, defendant Pence alone has the exclusive authority and sole

discretion to open and permit the counting of the electoral votes for a given state and where there are competing slates of electors or where there's objection to any single slate of electors to determine which electors votes or whether none shall be counted. The suit contends. The lawsuit comes before comes before Judge Jeremy Kernodle, a Trump appointee to the U.S. District Court of the Eastern District of Texas. It's unclear if he'll grant the request for an expedited judgment. Though the law itself is unlikely to gain legal traction, it does put Pence in the position of having to either contest the suit,

putting on the opposite side of the Trump and the GOP defenders, or support it and lay bare the intention to subvert the will of the voters in the 2020 election. They say Pence is engaged with GOP lawmakers seeking to reverse the election results, but has avoided publicly taking a side in the matter. I think that's actually not true. I don't know if you guys saw Pence's speech where he said, we're not going to stop fighting until every legal vote is counted and every illegal vote, you know, is not counted. I think Mike Pence is leaning towards, at least in a public sense, you know, I'm going to support Trump. But I got to tell you, man, here's my bet. January 6th comes around.

You guys all probably know they did that the electoral candidates for the Republicans cast their procedural votes. I bet Mike Pence is going to be like, Joe Biden wins. Bang the hammer and we're done. That is probably likely, to be completely honest. Look, they're flailing right now. And it's like you're either with us or you're against us. I mean, we've been dealing with this over at Blaze, and it doesn't stop just at the Glenn Beck level. It goes all the way up to Mike Pence, where they won allegiance.

And the line's being drawn in the sand. I love it. So either you're with us or you're against us. And that's more so what it is. And to be fair, when we talk about this whole not just with this election, really courts in general, it's all posturing to really force the hand of folks to really force them to take a side publicly or not, because generally it's just going to fall dead anyway. So and they know that they're not they're not stupid. It's a matter of like you kind of mentioned. It's like it's a matter of forcing him publicly to to take a stance but that's been the approach really and they're getting more and more aggressive and it's like we we want to know who's with us are you with us are you not they ignore one thing in this political article politico article pence could just ignore it yeah and it goes to court and they make a ruling and p just goes, I don't I think he's he's traditional.

He's he's very much more establishment. Well, if you look at Pence and Trump, especially after Election Day, you see Pence always sticking more to the establishment. You can see him contradict Donald Trump in many instances, not just regarding this issue, but also the vaccine issue. Specifically, Donald Trump even getting rid of a directive saying that the top White House staff was going to be vaccinated. He got rid of that. And Mike Pence was the only one who went out on national television and said, I'm going to get vaccinated. So that was a clear differential of opinions. And we've seen them on both sides of the issues a lot of different times. This is why I think they're doing the lawsuit,

because there was another story. Apparently, in a bunch of the emails trump was sending out it no longer says trump pence it just says trump yeah so so leftists were like pence is out and this was a couple weeks ago so i think this is why you've got some republicans saying mike pence because we want they want to know now but pence was at that meeting at the white house when i think it was I can't remember. I think it was Pennsylvania's electors showed up and had a meeting with Trump. And apparently they're like hardcore in it for Trump. They're a bunch of different states have been like demanding the governors give special sessions for their state, you know, state Congress or whatever, General Assemblies, so that they can officially certify electors for Trump.

Yeah. Like, look, this I think it's going to ramp up. I mean, we talk about the six, but I think it's going to go really further than that. The GOP right now is, it may be blowing up. Like, it sounds silly to say that, but seriously, like, it may be blowing up. And whether you think that's on Trump or his supporters, that's neither here nor there right now. You're seeing lines in the sand be drawn. And a lot of folks don't want to go down with that ship, especially the establishment types, because they look at it as it's not necessarily the whole threat to the democracy.

Government, especially at the federal level, has this way of going about things. Right. And it's been done this way for a very long time. And they want it to remain as such. And of course, Trump is kind of the nuke in that where he he kind of blows things up. And a lot of folks don't. Yeah, it's cool to support him. Everybody was on the same page with him for the last four years. But then they see it going this route definitely post post election or, you know, post, let's say, November. And a lot of folks don't want to go down with that ship. So you're going to see them kind of be shaky about definitely these big uber public GOP. They're not going to be like all in like that.

They kind of got a teeter totter, if you will. Well, the battle lines are drawn and people are making their decisions. And you could see major establishment figures like Rupert Murdoch, especially with his news publications, where he stands and where some of the Trumpers and never Trumpers stand. And it's a big fragmentation of the whole GOP party that we're seeing right now. Yeah, check this out. Check this out. We got this. The New York Post cover. Cover says, stop.

Mr. President, stop the insanity. You lost the election. Here's how to save your legacy trump supporters don't care about that trump i trump supporters are willing to support news outlets that support them and then as soon as you say okay now here's where we push back they say get out we don't care if you're not if you don't got our back anymore we're done with you i think they underestimate how many people support the man for the man like their allegiance isn't to the gop their allegiance is to him and i think a lot of people underestimate that so you know we're going to see what what

happens but this line's been drawn and it's been interesting to see how I think after the initial election like you know I was when we were covering this over at the blaze the election everybody kind of had their their way of going about things and I know it's the further we got away from it the more folks are like okay maybe it's a l that we just have to hold i don't know if it's a rather about saving face or again it's it's a certain way that things have been done the establishment or whatever you want to call them whether you think trump is a part of it i don't know i i really don't care nonetheless you know that there is is a fight being had right now. And I think it's a lot bigger

than what people are talking about. And I think both sides are not doing themselves any favors. I mean, you got the establishment side, and you literally have the cybersecurity chief coming out and saying one day that we had the most secure election in American history. And then a couple days later, finding out the entire government was hacked. The cyber Pearl Harbor, digital Pearl Harbor. The digital Pearl Harbor. I mean, come on. How does that make sense? I mean, there hasn't been a mainstream media journalist that connected the two and went to him

and asked him a legitimate question about this. But also Donald Trump is not doing himself any favors by signing this $900 billion spending bill and giving gender studies to Pakistan and speedboats to Sri Lanka. Meanwhile, everyone else here is having a hard time even just... pakistan and speedboats to sri lanka meanwhile everyone else here is having a hard time even just what kind of speedboats fast ones that go boom i don't know man they need speedboats why does sri lanka need speedboats i mean why does pakistan need gender programs yes i understand 10 million dollars not the biggest thing in this bill but

i'd rather just i'd rather we just gave 10 million dollars to a random american like here you go just here's the money have a nice day but you can really see it man the the geo so so here's what i want to say i think i did a segment on this earlier today i think the republicans are probably on track to win in georgia so this is this i'm flipping from my earlier stance i said before i thought the democrats were going to win because uh donald trump's not on the ticket but with the polls that have been coming out, and there's a bunch, they show that it's a neck and neck race. And the polls were all off underestimating Republicans. So it looks like it's going to be, and I'm just saying based off of that metric,

the Republicans are probably actually going to win in Georgia. And a lot of people thought so. But I do think it's fair to point out, people in Georgia who support Trump have a road trip to make that day. On January 5th, instead of going and voting, they got to pack up the car and head to dc because january 6th is the big support the president day so i'll tell you if you ask a lot a lot of these trump supporters who might actually go out and vote because trump's going to rally there and he asks them to they might still you know say thank you for coming trump and thanks for the rally but if i have to choose between

voting for these people or supporting you in dcC., I'm going to D.C. Do they have mail-in voting or early voting? They do have mail-in and early voting, but Republicans don't do that. So maybe the answer is Republicans need to go and vote by mail or vote early now. That way they can make it to D.C. and support both. But what I was saying before is Republicans don't care about – I'm sorry. Trump supporters don't care about the Republicans, these politicians. That right there. And definitely when we talk about legacy, and this is why I don't understand,

I know, Luke, you kind of mentioned it about Trump not doing himself any favors. And this is why I'd been saying on TV and everything like, dude, even if you're going to hold the l why not go out guns a blazing right why not go out guns a blaze we talked about the pardons and and all of that like why not right yes like like set it set it on fire like let loose like like in a video game yeah like video game like let loose though like why why not and he doesn't do he doesn't do himself any favors and i don't know if even trump understands himself any favors and i don't know if even trump understands his own supporters because they don't care about that stuff they don't care about legacy they don't care about you know being prissy or being doing things the way

that they've always been done that's not any the fact that they were attracted to them is indicative in that is that they don't care about that stuff so i don't even understand like what he's doing on his way out like why he's not like all right man i'm putting everything on the table why not he needs to see it he needs to see it uh so i i was thinking about this trump sitting in you know is trump willing to go that you know insane mile martial law insurrection act or whatever is he willing to go that far and i'm like if if he sees tweets he's probably like okay but if he sees republicans turning on him then he's probably like how much support do i really have yeah if on january 6 10 million people really do show up trump's gonna be like

release the hounds yeah but he's gonna open the gate and just be like we're doing it but another factor is he's disenfranchising a lot of his base that was there because of the promises that he made he promised to cut spending he promised to get us out of wars he promised us all of these wonderful amazing things he has an opportunity to put pen to paper and to make them happen and he's not doing it he called this bill a disgrace he said this bill quote is a disgrace demanding it to be changed immediately. And then what happened? Signed it right away. And then, and again, but listen, we had super majorities approving it.

Was that the case in this particular instance? Yes. Only 56 people in the House voted against it. And I think only eight people in the Senate. That overrides a veto. So Trump, look, the reality is not that Trump said, ha-ha, I'm going to say something and then just give in. No, Trump was defeated. That's it.

He can say what he wants to say, but if he doesn't have the power because the Senate and the House over just. Then stop playing the game. That's what I'm saying. Like, why not remain principled? Exactly. In that aspect, if you're going to lose anyway, what do you have the game? Don't sign it. Exactly.

Don't put your name on it. Exactly. You might as well go out like that. Look tried like this was a disgrace it has all all of this this this and that in it like why not go out like that he he did get he he redlined right he yeah but you're giving up any leverage you have by signing it no no listen if trump didn't sign it veto proof majority it would have been passed through so Trump I guess to save face was like

here's the red line what face is he saving that's what I'm trying to figure out who's the face it's an ugly face the idea is and stop making me

defend the guy the idea is he's gonna be like I approve this stimulus from the American people I wouldn't leave him hanging and I object to these things that everyone else hates too

if he didn't sign it then these look i'm not saying he made the right move i'm saying that's i did it that's the idea right right no i did it i get that a hundred percent but it's it's look you don't need to i don't think you need to rag on trump for this one as though it's a failure a failure on his part he lost like yeah whether he should have signed it or did should have signed it or did but that it or did not sign it. He lost. That's what makes it worse to me. It's like it's like you took an L, but you didn't take an L like with principle. Like it's one thing for me. If you get punched, like if you go into a fight, a fist fight like a man, I don't care if it's against whoever Conor McGregor, you're going to hold an L regardless. Look, you went out there and you threw your hands. You think you gave it your best shot.

But, you know, you're talking all this noise about what's in this bill, and it's calling it a disgrace. And then to support it, like, I don't know whose face that he's saving it for because it's not like the leftists are going to like him for doing that or anything like that. But he's telling us pretty nothings. Like, we're going to redline this. We're going to give you the $2,000.

No, no, no, listen, listen. I mean, he's telling us bull crap. He could just be honest with us, and the Democrats are slapping him down, saying, no, you're not going to get what you want. Here's what I'm saying. I'll tell you my thoughts on this. Signing it and redlining was the worst thing he could have done for one reason. He basically said, I'm mad about this, and I have absolutely no power, and only thing I can and I'm willing to do is beg the Democrats to at least do me a favor and they did that's the position

It's the same move like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that came out and said it's a five thousand page bill. I couldn't read it Yeah, I'm gonna vote for it. You know what? In Trump's defense, he's the guy that said it should be $2,000 to people, not $600. And that's why they outed it. Yeah, crash the economy quicker. Let's crash it quicker. And then AOC said, yeah, I agree with Trump. And then now I see they put an amendment to make it $2,000 now.

So that was because of Trump. So they did pass it. Yeah, yeah. So the House did pass the $2,000 checks bill. Dozens of Republicans have got behind Donald Trump. So a lot of people think Mitch McConnell is going to say no, and it's not going to happen. But they're basically telling Trump now they approved this because this is what's really, really amazing about this bill. Not only did Trump come out and complain about it, but he actually attacked the establishment from the left.

He came from their left flank. Print more money. Give more money to the american people like on the bird on the vert like like ran paul said when i just do twenty thousand dollars why not just do you know monthly ubi and just guaranteed income trump came from the left and the funny thing is a lot of these things that were in the omnibus were things he was requesting and negotiating for so trump has been you know it's really funny michael tracy has this really great tweet he's a journalist i don't know if you guys you guys find who he is and he said constant investigations you know a bunk impeachment all of this stuff and they're still half the country convinced we

narrowly avoided a fascist fascistic dictator like trump was ever that and i keep telling people trump tried really really hard to get things done and couldn't he hired bad people a lot of the a lot of people he hired turned on him. Like the easiest one is Bolton, obviously. And he was obstructed every step of the way. The Republicans certainly hated him the whole time and just used him to get their judges and their tax breaks. And then when Trump wanted to do things, where are they?

They're not there for him. Like he's been complaining about 230. Trump supporters have been complaining about 230. Nothing's gotten done. Not one of these people. I mean, Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley have complained about it a bit. So, okay, I guess. But in the end, the Republican establishment is just like a do-nothing party that just waits and goes.

Here's how I imagine Republicans. They're like sitting there watching Democrats just mess everything up. And they go, no, wait, don't. I'm fighting for you. You know, vote for me. And they just hit there. And then Democrats go about mucking things up. and they just don't do anything about it. So now here we are.

I'll tell you what's really amazing about all this. You know this kind of spending bill happens all the time? Yep. Here's this really great tweet that's been going around from Rand Paul. This is from December 23rd, 2018, he said. Actually, let me read the tweet before for context. He says, of course, instead of fixing waste like this and reforming government, the geniuses in Congress decided to have a fight over how much more money they were going to spend,

a.k.a. borrow from China. Speaking of which, buried in the foreign aid reports last year, so that would be 2017, I discovered something. We give foreign aid to China. So government is so dumb, it is literally borrowing money from China to give it back to China while paying interest on it. Rand Paul. Bravo.

By the way, he also just released a full list of all the incredibly dumb things that the government is spending money on. I mean, if I could just read some of them. I'll just wrap my point up real quick. I kind of lost my train of thought, though. What I was going to say is people don't pay attention to this stuff. And this year, the Democrats tried everything in their power to get as many people politically active as possible.

And then all of a sudden, when this omnibus spending package drops, normal people who regularly ignore this are now looking at it and going, wait, what? And then so what Trump supporters are saying. And keep in mind, they'll defend like the hardcore Trump supporters will defend him no matter what he does. They're saying Trump redlining this highlights it and then forces Congress to say we approve of the things the American people don't. So sure, maybe now people might be aware of it. I think that's actually what's happening. And it'll be really interesting to see it when America has been brought to its knees with an economic crisis.

They're now saying China's on track to overtake America's economy in only seven years or so, accelerating because we've been shut down and completely obliterated by this. At a time when we're at our worst and people are desperate, 12 million people facing eviction, benefits are going up in flames. And they're blaming Trump. I'm asking, why did we just give $10 million to Pakistani gender studies? A lot of people are asking that. Even people on the left are like, I don't know, man. Maybe we should give that money to people in Flint who need water.

We're not spending money on ourselves when we're broke. That's crazy. It's not just that, Tim. The government is literally spending money to study if human beings will eat bugs. That's one of their initiatives. But hold on. Another one is to, quote, invent smart toilets. Let me keep going.

Let me just... Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. I got to slow you down. You mean to tell me I could apply for a grant and they'll give me money to just make a toilet with computers in it? Smart toilets, yes. Really?

But what does a smart toilet do? I don't have any research. When I worked for Vice, they had the Vice building, they had one of those fancy Japanese toilets. Where it's got a blow dryer in it and stuff. Is that what we're talking about? Less potty talk. Let me continue with this list released by Rand Paul. Because that sounds pretty good. I mean, if I had to

allocate tax dollars somewhere, give me a good toilet. There was $8.6 billion spent on anti-drug efforts in Afghanistan of all places. Isn't that where like 92% of Boppy comes from? Yes. I had military vets that came over, and all of them were like, yeah, we were just there guarding the opium fields for mass production for the world to have heroin. There's money going into Kenyan art classes.

There's money going into Afghani art classes there's money going into afghani and pakistani how much book clubs i don't i gotta look it up to tell you uh exactly uh that there's tens of millions of dollars going to towards stopping truancy in schools in the philippines there's also speed boats in sri lanka and uh study on lizards and how they walk on treadmills for $1.5 million. I saw that. Yeah. So as you are literally told you can't work, as you are literally kicked out of your apartment,

as you're told to pay up in the taxes in the highest amounts as they're going to keep going up higher, remember, at least lizards are going to be going on treadmills because of your tax dollars. Now, the eating bugs thing, how much was that? How much money went into eating bugs? I are going to be going on treadmills because of your tax dollars now the eating bugs thing how much was that how much money went into eating i'm gonna have to look up because look specifically a lot of atomized it a lot of people point out things and i'm like there's an argument there no there is like i don't know if the government should be spending money on it but pakistani gender studies is in defense there's no defense for that come on

yeah but like researching what humans are willing to eat could could change everything. Yeah, it could be useful. You know, I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying. By spending way too much money and indebting everyone. That's a good point. And there's hyperinflation. Yeah.

People are going to need to figure out how to eat bugs then. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You know, like the farms are all shut down. At the beginning of the year, we saw that they were just like dumping dairy into like empty fields and just wasting it all. And like bugs are everywhere.

We should have a program that gets rid of sparrows. So then we have more bugs that we could eat. I heard that worked really well during the Great Leap Forward in China. But is that why they did it? They were trying to save bugs to eat? Just eat the sparrows. No, no, no. The sparrows were eating the vegetables.

Do you guys know what rabbit starvation is? Mm-hmm. Like rabbits don't have any fat on them. So if you only eat rabbit, you eventually die because you're not getting any fat in your diet and you need it. Oh, wow. Yeah. So like people say like, you don't eat the rabbits, you can't do it. Like I think in Venezuela, there was like when the food shortages were really bad, they were just like people were trying to breed rabbits and eat them because rabbits eat grass and they should keep growing and having babies like crazy. But there's you can't there's no nutrients.

Yeah. It's called rabbit starvation. You see, the thing about this, though, is that and this is why I don't I'm not as optimistic as everybody else is when we get on the other side of this. It's mainly because folks aren't connecting the dots here. And then in terms of terms of what got us to this point. Right. So between the lockdowns,s obviously this is an issue not even this is before the lockdowns we talk about spending all of this money and um and being taxed to death and them selling assets of unborn

people uh basically robbing future generations with the money because they're spending money that they don't have i was telling people uh all along with this, with any stimulus for the most part, this whole moronic idea is that you're getting your money back. No, you're not. That money's not there. They don't have money to give you. It's got to come from somewhere. And this is, again, the Fed allows them to monetize their debt, essentially,

and you're basically robbing future generations. But, you know, other people say it like that. An easy way to put it is a lot of these lefties talk about how they want to increase the minimum wage right well when you mass print trillions of dollars in one year 35 of all u.s dollars put in circulation in the past 10 months what you've effectively done is cut the the wage of everybody by a certain amount of percent but i was talking to my friend about this i'm like dude you don't realize they just lowered your wage by like a dollar or two an hour by mass printing all this money yeah and it reduces the value you gotta i was like people don't understand like uh debt to

gdp at all not at all if your country is not producing things of value then and you keep printing money then the money becomes worthless because people don't have what am i going to buy with it? Right. There's one difference though. We got a lot of guns and we control basically the oil. So as long as we have that petrodollar, then there you go. I'm going to start it on that. But no, like, it's like pulling teeth, man, with people and trying to get them to understand that the issue right here, and I know obviously libertarians are going to get amped up about

all of that that is because the problem is that the money is being taken and then you know we could talk all day long about it being spent and how it's spent and a lot of these people will be in congress the people that vote for the people that are in congress they're control freaks and it's not about okay you keeping your money like the easiest answer seemed to be when it came to this lockdown was okay stop the lockdown so people can produce for themselves not print money out of thin air and give them money. So effectively, you're devaluing the money, the currency over a period of time. But they're control freaks. So it doesn't even cross their mind, this idea that, OK, what if we, I don't know, just allow people to keep the most most their money that we possibly can. It doesn't even connect for

them because they're like, okay, they have their own personal things that they want everybody else to be forced to subsidize. And that's the issue. The issue is not that you're being robbed. That's not the problem. Or even that it's being, that that amount of money is being spent. It's that it's not being spent on the things that they want to spend it on. I tweeted something that triggered a bunch of lefties. I said something like, only when the last farm has been shut down and no longer produces, and the supply chain has run dry, and stores no longer carry food, will the leftists realize you can't eat money. And it's a play on an old saying, like, only when the last river has been polluted and

the last forest cut down will you realize you can't eat money. And I'm like, I was thinking about that saying it was it's like a lefty perspective on protecting the environment like if you destroy everything you can't eat and i saw these people like a lot of the andrew yang people saying we just need ubi and i'm like first of all most people don't realize most money in circulation is digital it's not real currency and it's and it's created upon debt. Like when a loan is given out or when the money is created, the checks you get, that's literally where the money first comes into existence. And then you just have like digital tallies. You can't eat that. That's not a thing. It's abstract. Even like the paper you get. Congratulations. There's no food, but you have

$100 now. What are you going to do with it? I know you go to the store. There's no toilet paper. You can wipe your ass. That's about that's the best thing it's worth. So it? I know you go to the store, there's no toilet paper, you can wipe your ass. That's the best thing it's worth. The funny thing is, it's not even worth that because American dollars are made with cloth and other countries made with plastic. You can't even use it for toilet paper. No, for real, what do you do with it? So I kept telling people, let me tell you, if you had $100 right now, what would you do with it? Just off the top of your head, you got $100, what do you want to do? Man, I got a couple of bills I put it by something yeah something yeah you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna pay your phone yeah yeah so i i asked my friends that like if

you had 100 bucks right now what would you what would you do and they they mentioned you know paying a bill and i'm like okay but what if the people at the phone company can't work anymore because the lockdown who do you give the money to and what do you get in exchange for it and they're like but the phone company is essential and it works and i'm like right right but now think about any other industry some some industries still exist fine so you can buy cell service you want to go out to eat you want to get food you can't do that so if your dollar can do less it's worth less so people think i it this way. What if I told you I can give you, you know, 10 bucks to go eat, or I can cook you a nice hot family meal. It's like, well, you can't go out and get that. There's, there's, there's more value in getting something that's,

you know, long story short, I don't need to beat that horse. If people don't make stuff, what are you buying? If people aren't providing services, what are you buying? Nothing to buy. But that's why they don't understand. They don't even make that connection with money and it being the most common commodity. And that's why it's supposed to be utilized in the way that we utilize. That's not a dot that they connect, which is why it was so easy for them to say, shut everything down. Just shut everything down. They don't even connect the dots. Well, OK, this person that is working, it doesn't matter if you feel that it's non-essential.

This person owns a salon or something like that. Well, that person is producing a service that a value that someone at least values. Whether you think it's silly or non-essential, it doesn't matter. But in producing that, they're making their own money or rather, they say they employ other other hairstylists or something like that. they're making that they don't even connect that it's just shut it down we're scared of a of this virus and people don't have to produce and it's funny they talk so much about long-term effects of this virus you hear that all the time is why you can't reopen sure it has a 99 survival rate but 99 oh yeah yes exactly so why would you why would but we got the long-term effects why not worry about that and they don't seem to ever consider that well of course they don't consider that with a vaccine but they certainly don't consider that when it comes to how this is going to impact the economy

going forward there's this viral video of a nurse and it's like this viral tweet says this is for all the co-vidiots who use survival rate as like an excuse for not following lockdown you saw this video i did a video on it yeah she's like imagine i gave you like millions and millions of skittles and then i told you that 17 million would make you sick and have lingering effects and that 300,000 would kill you would you still want to eat them and i'm like okay hold on hold on how many skittles we talking you said millions upon millions and then you said 99.9% are safe, but 17 million will kill you. So that doesn't make sense.

If 17 million is 0.1 of the Skittles. Right. Okay, so let's do some math. More importantly, though, you mean to tell me that you view, you know, somebody working, a man or woman to feed their kids as eating candy?

Wow. That was the craziest thing to me. And I was like, let me ask you a question. If you were in the middle of the desert and you were have gone without water for a day or two and you saw a pool of green murky water and that's it it will make you sick you'll probably die would you drink it absolutely you would yeah absolutely wouldn't even hesitate wouldn't even hesitate who would but i mean that's why the skittle analogy was so terrible because we look at people don't understand we mentioned

a survival rate we're talking about risk here right that's what the Skittle analogy was so terrible because we look at people don't understand. We mentioned a survival rate. We're talking about risk here. Right. That's what we're talking about more than anything. So even with the Skittle, I don't think that has a hundred percent. Somebody's probably died from, I don't know, diabetes from eating Skittle or choked on a Skittle or something like that. So I don't think. Yeah, exactly. So people still eat them. So I don't even think that analogy is good. That's actually a good point. You like I don think uh you have a one in a thousand chance of dying from eating skittles but there is likely you could die from eating skittles easy absolutely yeah and then people don't consider she didn't obviously i tell you this i bet there somebody took a handful of skittles and was chewing it and had a big clump of skittles and then choked on it

i bet i bet bet your bottom dollar that that's happened to someone, someone, somewhere. But that's what it's about. It's about risk. It's about assessing the risk. Really, there's nothing in life that we do that has 100% survival rate, you know, where you can trip down the stairs, break your leg, get infected, have to get, there's so many different things. You can drive your car to work. You can die in a crash. All of those things are risk. Here's what I was saying about it when she mentions the Skittles and the risk and the 0.1%. The people who want to work their jobs aren't doing it because they're bored. This is the crazy thing about the left's argument supporting this.

They think the people who need to work jobs are doing it for fun. It's a weird view of work. Like people work, yes, for fulfillment, but typically because they have responsibilities and they're producing for themselves, their friends, and their families to survive. So here's what I was thinking. Take that logic of risk and what risk you're willing to accept and apply it to any other job. Imagine if there was a firefighter and then he saw a fire and then this and another firefighter was like whoa whoa whoa don't go in that burning building you might get burned well it's like well

yeah i realized that in fact the likelihood that a firefighter in going into a burning building will and gets burned in some capacity is probably i'm not saying like serious injury i'm just saying like you'll you'll you might get sick you know there's risk serious risk and we often talk about you know firefighters i think is the best example i could do cops but i think firefighters everybody generally likes you know they know going into a burning building it's a substantial substantial risk like i don't know if you guys ever seen the movie backdraft i haven't seen it since i was a little kid but backdraft is i'm probably getting the fire science wrong somebody in the comments will correct me but when when the when there's a fire and it becomes oxygen starved and then you open the door giving air to the room then there's a

big burst and it and it hits you and so there's things like that i remember i was told a story by my dad who was a firefighter for like 20 something years you go on the roof and you'll hear creaking and then all the firefighters like look around at each other like what do we do and they train you if you hear creaking if you get scared you get out you don't wait for anybody else because people will look to each other and then not move. But then the roof caves in. So like these risks are legit. And imagine if imagine if they all set were sitting around and the alarm went off and they're like, I don't know, man.

If I told you there were 100 buildings and one of them would be on fire, would you go in a building? It's like I probably would. You know, she's got some dumb analogy to Skittles. And she's talking about people's livelihoods. So you've got to take the risk of going to work. It's not eating candy. They're not going to work for candy. I've got to be mean. I don't want to be mean.

But I've got to bring up Kyle Kalinske. And I think Kyle Kalinske is a good dude. He's a good dude. I think he acts in good faith. And I respect him a lot. But he had this tweet that I've got to bring up. And I'm not doing it. I'm not trying to be mean. But I don't know if you guys saw this where he

was in an airplane and he saw all these farms he took a picture and he was had something like so beautiful i wonder why it looks like this and he got roasted like crazy because people were like bro like have you ever seen a farm before and i felt bad because look man there's a lot of people who deserve they're nasty people. They're mean on Twitter. I don't care if you're left or right. There's a lot of really nasty people. Now, he's a good dude.

And so him getting roasted hard, I was like, come on, man. He tries to be good to people, you know, if you got something wrong. But it is a good point. He's a progressive. He's got a very prominent, popular YouTube channel. And he didn't know what a farm looked like. And that says a lot. It does.

Because he's a thought leader. And so again, I'm not trying to be mean or disrespectful or anything, but just think about that because I've had so many conversations with people on the left. Like my friends who live in cities, there's no, they don't have the ability

or I should say the experience and the knowledge or the wisdom to connect farms, supply chain, food in your restaurants. It's like they've never put in an order for food. They't know where it comes from you know what i mean so like when i'll give you an example man we've been trying people keep telling us sell beanies right they're like when you guys gonna sell beanies well we can't get them made first of all covid made it really really hard but getting the specific product put together like designed properly not those nasty acrylic

garbage beanies you get at the gas station or like a real, a real good one, like the ones I'm wearing, you got to find the place that makes them. The place that makes them has to get the right material. And so we call it these companies and they say, we got to order from this place in this part of the country, or even ordering skateboards. Like I was doing that when I was a teenager, trying to figure out where the woods being sourced from, and then seeing where that, you know, supply chain comes. Many of these people on the left, they were telling me when I was a teenager, trying to figure out where the wood's being sourced from, and then seeing where that supply chain comes. Many of these people on the left, they were telling me when I said, I kept telling people, printing money will not get you food.

And they were like, dude, you can just go to the store and buy it. Where do you think the food in the store comes from? It comes on a truck. So here's what people don't get. People who live in cities who don't understand this, they've not run a business, they've not built or produced, maybe they work service jobs or they work digital jobs, coding or media or whatever. They don't understand that supply chain. And so to them, it's just the food appears. It's just in the store. And what they really don't get, and this is the crazy one, is that when the COVID pandemic

hit, there were a couple of weeks or about a month where it seemed like everything was normal. You go to the store and there was food and there was milk and there were bagels and there was cream cheese but then one day it was gone but it was a delayed reaction why the trucks were already being sent out the shipments came in docked at the ports loaded up on trucks the shipping containers the trucks then start driving around the country and it takes a certain amount of there's a delay so when they announce that they're doing a lockdown you're not going to just go to the store and everything's gone because not only do they have a current stock they have the way the backroom stock then they

have like three more shipments you know next week the week after already lined up a month later everything's gone yeah and you go into the store and the toilet paper was gone everyone's like oh what's happening oh where's all toilet paper it's like yeah well i hope you bought something that's why it's so easy for them to demonize work though you know um because they don't value it and they don't understand what people do and why how they do it and why they produce though in the way uh that they that they are i mean that's the beauty of absolutely you know absolutely when it comes to capitalism that's the beauty for me and why i love it so much. And unfortunately, it spoiled a lot of these guys because, yeah, you can have virtually no skill, not know how this stuff is produced.

But you can get something, whether it be a water bottle or something that you have no idea how to purify water or something, but you bought it. It's yours. Now you can drink it. You can hydrate yourself. Having not ever understood how you got it. And a lot of folks skip that step because they don't understand. They don't even care to really understand. That's why it's so easy for them to say, why can't we just shut it all down? And then the government can just print money to everybody and they just give it to us while we sit down and do nothing. It's so easy for them to say that because they don't understand why it is that we work they don't understand production they don't understand why it is that we produce

and it's so frustrating for me to see people i was a former collegiate athlete and and seeing my natural transition was in the gym industry right at college and to see that that be that was the first thing to go when it came to the lockdowns, gyms. Yes. That's crazy to me. It was so frustrating to me, not only because I understand, like, a lot of guys that own gyms, small and even franchised, aren't really usually rich anyway like that. And you get people put their life savings into trying to open up this gym. They open up this gym, and then you say basically, well, it's not safe for them to do what it is that they do. Well, it's not safe for them to do what it is that they do. Well, it's not essential. Now, not only was that crazy because of that, but definitely when we learn more about the virus

and we know who was being impacted the most, you think the gym was the place that people wanted to go to try to get their behinds in some sort of shape. So if they do contract this virus, they have a better chance of surviving it. But the gyms were the first thing to go. But it's just so easy and how willy-nilly people just say shut the gym down shut the salon down it's no big deal we don't need it we just leave these other folks open and they don't understand like why it is that they're producing in the way isn't there like an interesting correlation between the idea that these people

don't know where food comes from and also like the body positivity movements and like privilege and all this stuff they don't understand the value of not just like labor that produces for the economy but just good old fashion rolling up your sleeves and working and the benefits that come with it like there there are people who do you know uh you could you could farming is good training absolutely like actually just like tilling a field and doing work and then you'll realize, man, you got crazy upper body strength from it. A good, a good hard day's work makes you healthy, makes you better. We need it. They don't get that.

So now you've got, you know, people who just eat irresponsibly and assume the food's just there and who cares? And they don't got to do anything, take care of themselves. And this, this ties into like universal healthcare and stuff. Oh man. You know what, man? I was actually, uh, I was even recently saying that I was very much in favor of universal health care if it could be accomplished. I like the idea that we take care of everybody and we got to

figure out the right way to do it. And one of the arguments I've often made is like, and I think we talked about this, Ian, like if you break your arm, you go to the doctor, they take care of you. You know, you broke your arm. It's not expensive treatment. It's like standard care. But if you get like a serious cancer, then you need private insurance on top of that because that's expensive to produce and everything like that but i'll tell you i changed my mind on this when i saw that they were giving uh for the for covid vaccine racial racial guidelines and then i was like whoa no way dude i'm out i'm out i'm totally i'm totally off that wagon the thing about me with the health care thing and why i just can't take anybody serious for advocating for it it's because

they certainly don't advocate for let's say a mandate on top of the health care that you be required to like work out or exactly well that's that was a point i wanted to make right like they don't they don't make that a requirement they don't even advocate that this is why you have fascism yeah of course like how like even though i. This is why you have people. Yeah, of course. Even though I think the Soviets made people do calisthenics. Yeah, because obviously you'd be less of a burden on the healthcare system the healthier you are. But they don't certainly pitch that as an idea. See, that's the thing about authoritarianism.

If you were going to say we're going to do universal healthcare, but the only way to make it work is that everybody has to do a physical or something or exercise that would make sense and then you're forcing people to do something yeah it doesn't make sense to be like no no no you can eat all the double bacon triple cheeseburgers you want and then we're all going to pay for your sugar they with food stamps you go buy a pepsi and you can buy all with your entire food that's insane it's it's it's It's crazy, man. Criminal. It's addictive drugs. Yeah.

When I was 20, but even outside of that, even outside of whether or not you want to rag on sugar, when I was 20, I had a food benefit card when I was effectively, I don't want to say I was homeless in Seattle, but I moved there, I was pretty broke, and I was sleeping on a couch, and I ended up getting a food card. I got a job really quickly within a month, but while i didn't they gave me like 80 bucks and i went into a store and they said you can buy

anything that isn't prepared and i was like i can buy this this butterfinger and like yeah i was like that's insane that's crazy why are you like buying candy with it it's sickness man it's it's it's like i understand like i think benefits are good. Like I mentioned, like, I was helped by them, you know? Like, I was able to, I moved to Seattle and then, you know, had a hard time and I was able to get, like, 80 bucks for one month. Not a whole lot of money. It didn't really do a lot for me, but it helped me eat and I didn't buy candy bars with it. No. But a lot of people do.

No, that's, like, exactly what they buy i mean this is one of the things that i certainly learned uh when i i went into like a huge out of college like this huge like budgeting thing where i was like i want to know how much money i'm spending and spending it on what and you just be surprised how much money you spend on stuff that is not obviously nutritious but more so how much it's not that it doesn't cost that much to eat healthy it really a lot of people think it does i agree and but it really doesn't like you know the amount of money like you go to i don't know a burger king or something and you get a large meal you're gonna come out that bad boy paying what like 10 bucks or something like that that for that that particular meal do you know what you could get at the grocery store for 10 bucks?

12 pounds of bananas. What is a banana? Like $1.29 a pound or something? Packed with nutrients. That's so good. You get a thing of peanut butter and you get a thing of bananas. And you got two, three meals compared to what you get with rice and a can of beans. You have like three meals for like $4.

And we keep hearing something about salt. And it's healthier than that. And it's healthier than that. This is what really bothers me i think the modern left is is chock full of low information individuals who ruin the ideas of what the left is supposed to actually be arguing for economic cooperation versus economic competition that's like the easiest way i think to break down what left and right would be so i like the idea of social safety nets. The only problem is you have people who are like, back to this point, I hear it all over and over again. It's expensive to eat healthy.

And they have these videos they put, these viral videos where they're like, but wouldn't you rather just spend a dollar at McDonald's for a double cheeseburger? When I lived in Los Angeles, I was broke. And I was sharing a studio apartment with some friends. And I was making only a couple hundred bucks a month. You know what I would do? For 80 cents, I could get four tomatoes and a little thing of mayo. And then for another 50 cents, I could get a pack of tortillas.

There you go. And that was just my snack for lunch or whatever. But eating tomatoes for a dollar, I could have like 10 times the food. Absolutely. Of a double cheeseburger. And I'll tell you this. They argue, but the cheeseburger is protein and all that stuff. Oh, yeah. And then I would buy, I think, a peanut butter later.

And then I would, you know, I was broke. I was broke, broke. But could you, I couldn't spend $3 on a burger. That's one meal. That's one meal. That's one meal. But it's not good for you. Right.

It's like 98% of your daily sodium. Like after that, you just get sick and bloated. And then you get, oh, man, you get mud butt from eating that trash fast food. Yeah, no, no, no, no good. So I would just have some tomatoes, some tortillas. I would get some beans and peanut butter. And it would cost me dirt. Man, when I was flat broke, I figured out a way to get the food that I needed.

And I was not eating well. Not at all. And I've been through a lot of periods in my life where I was not eating well and that's part of the reason why I'm fairly lefty but I'm also fairly responsible so when I got a food card in Seattle what I would buy fruit juice with it I would buy like protein and peanut butter and I was what people were telling me like I people would you could just buy chocolate chocolate bars double cheese like you could buy you could buy freezer cheeseburgers i'm like yeah but that's why we fixed that man right i don't think it can be i mean because the great you know thomas soil that when he talks about welfare

statism and the way that he breaks it down to me is genius and this way is broken down to me and the way i break it down to everybody else is that I understand the good intention, right? You, you, you have someone that is down and out and you want them to be supported in some kind of way. The problem is, is that how it's structured and generally how it's structured everywhere else is that you're incentivizing them to fail because what you do is you say is so as long as you meet this line, we'll give you whatever it is that you need. Housing, food. The minute you get above that line, we're stripping it all away from you. And that's what they're doing. They're incentivizing. That's why a lot of folks that are there stay there. You want to know what I really love about this? I'm successful. I'm a high school dropout.

When I talk to people about how to succeed and work hard, I say, if you work hard and you're smart and you sacrifice, you will succeed. They say, Tim, you're the exception, not the rule. But hold on, hold on, hold on. Then when I say, you know, there was a period of my life where I got welfare. I got food stamps to help me survive. They say, see, it helped you and then you succeeded. But why aren't I the exception?

Yeah, exactly. You see how they play it? Yeah. So I actually use that argument. I say, like, I think for me, it's a good example of how it works. I moved to Seattle. I had, you know, some bad stuff came up. I ran out of money.

And so I got some food help. I immediately got a job at a local cafe. And then I immediately got off of it. I had it for about a month and a bunch of other people man a lot of people that i that i you know knew in seattle were they purposefully didn't want to work yeah they would go food bank to food bank they would just make up lies and excuses to get their benefits and stuff like that and so i don't know what you know i'm not gonna i can only speak for my own personal experiences but i'll point out when i try and tell people i'm not the exception when it comes to hard work and success.

Not in the least bit. You want to work for three years with no days off, 16-hour days? Trust me, you'll figure something out as long as you're dedicated to doing something and making it work. I understand not everybody is going to succeed, but it's certainly not an exception to say working hard leads to some kind of success. Not at all. That's the common theme that you see with a lot of people. I mean, I grew up in a single-parent household. Mother didn't have too much of anything.

I remember wearing the same obvious shoes for a couple of years, even though I was growing. No, that's a real thing. But my mother was working two, three jobs at a time just to try to get me to do stuff that I wanted to do. But am I the exception to the food card thing then? Well, that's an argument to be made. And I think you are, to be completely honest, because you look at how intergenerational poverty works in this country, right? It's not like it's this way mechanism where people because, yes, it's true that folks slide up and down economic classes all the time. That is absolutely true. That is irrefutable. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't talk about it enough.

But when you talk about people that are considered in poverty, the reason why that term intergenerational poverty exists is because it's exactly that. Well, you have someone that comes in poor, remains poor. And to sit up here and think that and this is what actually frustrates me as someone that came from that style of living i grew up banging there's nothing that anybody can tell me about living living that particular lifestyle and to see folks that include my own father to see folks that didn't do everything it was that they could do to get out of that situation was what kind of changed my mind obviously as, as I got older, because I'm outworking the people that are right next to me. And they say, well, they're going to give it to me anyway, the money, Section 8 housing or whatever it is that I have that I'm getting.

I want to stay exactly where I am at. And this is why when we talk about welfare and we talk about needs and we talk about necessity, I certainly understand all of those arguments. And there's absolutely arguments to be made. but to sit here and act like every single person that is in that particular position it doesn't really matter if you're poor rich but certainly when we're talking just to make it unique to this conversation if you're talking about those to act like it's every that they've number one done everything they could get out of it is horse crap. But most importantly, let's not talk as if there aren't people that done everything they could to get into that and to remain exactly where they are. My own father speaks to that.

Yeah, man, it's the nail on the head, dude. It's the elephant in the United States people aren't talking about that you're incentivized to remain on food stamps or to continue to collect unemployment. And if you get a job that makes 500 bucks a week, you're going to lose your $600 a week unemployment. That's a problem. That's, but,

but I think that shows that could we possibly fix that system? I think UBI is a step towards fixing it so that you still get the benefit. You strip away food stamps, you strip away social security. But that's the thing though. And that's what a lot of even you'd have. I mean, I won't say Hayek actually made that argument.

It's a misconception that he actually made it. But would that be better than what we have now? Absolutely. But that's the thing, though. It's not going to come that way. It's not going to. If they implement UBI, if you think that they're stripping everything else away on top of that, absolutely not.

But think about the same problem we're just talking about. Let's say you get rid of all those programs. Like Andrew Yang was saying, you get rid of all the other spending. We give everybody $1,000. It actually isn't that much more. It is a lot of trillions of dollars. But what happens then when you got someone who gets $1,000 and they're like, I can pay my rent or we can go to Six Flags. Let's go to Six Flags because $1,000 I can spend however I want.

And then they become homeless. So it's personal choice. But that's the thing that that's why when we talk about this and welfare statism, we have to consider the individual above all, because we aren't all wired the same way. And that to me isn't isn't a bad thing. That's a great thing that we aren't wired, wired the same way. But the reason why we advocate for certainly guys like myself advocate for freer markets is because we all are different in that aspect and certain people have certain skill sets that they can utilize to let's say maintain some sort of comfortable living everybody does i don't care who you are now you might not be taking advantage of it but i believe that we all can work uh towards that unfortunately the welfare state, and certainly

when it comes to the economic or more political left, they don't even highlight that because it's like, you're poor, you're where you're at, I have to come save you. There's only two real privileges, in my opinion. We hear all about privilege, white privilege, male privilege, whatever. The first and most important, I think, is privilege you're if you're a smart person and not everybody is smart no and i you know then you're gonna you're gonna do better if you can plan and strategize now you can earn all that though you can you can study and some people you know they say might learn some things better there's like i forgot what's called it's uh people have people learn in different ways like some people learn through physical. Some learn through reading.

Some learn through doing. But you can actually study and work hard. But that's where the real privilege comes in, your willingness to work hard. And that's in you. And that's a choice. Everybody can make that choice. Clean running water is another privilege because if you have lead in your water, you're going to come out stupid. Sure.

That's a good point but if you work hard enough and they're certainly like i'm not trying to be overly simplistic but the point i'm trying to make is no matter where you are in the world there are people who are doing better than others you know so they're they're like you you can pick a relatively poor nation and you'll find there are people there who are wealthier than the average american they found a way they they were smart about it some places they do bad things to do. But, you know, when you look at somebody who's committing crimes, there are some really dumb and simple crimes theft. But there are some enterprise crimes, smuggling cartels or whatever.

They're manipulating the system to get what they want. I don't think it's a good thing. I'm just saying you're right about the lead. Definitely. You're poisoned. You're in a crappy position. It's going to be a lot harder for you than somewhere else in the world. But if you're willing to work harder. Right. Exactly. But that's the thing. Why not highlight that?

It's always a focus and an overemphasis, at least in my honest opinion, about, okay, some people can't do this. And I always respond to that. Well, some people can. You know, man, and there's I'm going to give a shout out to this guy. I've been watching on Instagram. His name is Nick Mullins. He's blind and he's probably one of the best skateboarders I've ever seen in my life. It's not.

I'm not even kidding. My mind is blown. There's the barracks is like a very popular skateboarding website. And they've been promoting this documentary about this dude who is like he got sick and then he got he got a staph infection and it destroyed his eyesight. He's totally blind. And you watch him skate and he's he's skating on like a six foot half pipe you know like you know he's like it's not it's not as big as what tony hawk would do but he's doing tricks i can't do and his and when he skates his head doesn't move he can't see he's blind what's your excuse man

there are people with no legs that skate and they do some of the craziest skateboarding tricks they got no legs what's your excuse so look i i understand it's fair to say if you're drinking lead water and it's messed your brain up yeah you're it's going to hold you back for sure i i understand that or if you're crippled or you've got some i don't know if that's a proper term but yeah but no but to that point disabled to that point though there are folks that are doing very amazing things that are in those positions. One of my video editors actually is in that physical, has a physical disability, the best video editor that I know. Because they find ways to get it.

I was watching this guy the other day on, like, you know, Facebook gaming every now and then, like, pops up on my, like, video feed or whatever. And I was sitting here watching this guy. He's paralyzed from like the the the like neck down and he's like using his mouth in his in his head to play call of duty like a war zone or whatever and he is like slaying he's obviously way better than anything that i ever i ever could do is the coolest thing that i can but i see stuff like that and i get inspired like that's just how i am i'm just i just getting inspired i watched this video on instagram of this dude skating blind and i'll just i'll give you an example of one of the tricks he did i think he did like an i think he did a nollie uh nollie

backside big heel flip to back over crook and then just pop in regular it's jargon to most of you but a skateboarder's probably understood what i said he's blind okay he can't see and so i went on my mini ramp and i was like all right let's see what i got i closed my eyes i just fell i couldn't even i can skate a mini ramp pretty well and i and i closed my eyes one time i could not do it and i'm just like man talk about your willingness to work hard your refusal to give up and you could not see and still be better at skateboarding than most skateboarders in the world that's it's amazing but that's why you know what people don't talk about is that you know a a big percentage of millionaires like in this country right now are self-made they didn't come by way of some trust fund or or mom and daddy had had a business that they inherited no they were they started in in similar positions as us

and then they went and got it and this is why i just can't let people make it uh with an excuse and for me that to me when i hear stories like that that's inspiring but for for whatever reason folks look at that well you're like you mentioned earlier you're the exception to the rule not everybody else can do that and that's to me is just such a toxic way to think you'll never get over the hump if your if your position is always wearing about okay i can't do it i'll never be able the hump. If your if your position is always wearing about, OK, I can't do it. I'll never be able to be in this position. Other people have other people were in worse positions that are now in better positions. If you're always thinking like that, then, of course, you're going to remain exactly like where you're at. And unfortunately,

when it comes to the government and how powerful they are, they incentivize you to stay exactly right there. And then we talk about progressive taxation and the more that you make, the more they take there anyway. And it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a way that's a dependency thing. That's a part of the state. And this is why they don't want you to be self-sufficient. They want it to come from them because they don't want you to be able to create for yourself. See, I'm not an ANCAP though. You know, I'm, I'm actually,

I'm pretty lefty on a lot of economic policy issues. I think one of the challenges we have right now is mackenzie bezos really good example she's not like you know everybody like say soros lefty billionaire pumping money into like crazy ideas mackenzie bezos a good example because uh as i i think it's it's you're not allowed to say this she got her money from her husband she did right literally literally did apparently like somebody tweets that and they got they got taxed saying like how dare you she did she got her money from her husband she did right literally literally did literally did apparently like somebody tweets that and they got they got taxing like how dare you she did she divorced her husband she got a large portion of the money and now she's putting billions of dollars into woke programs see that's the that's one of the issues i have with unfettered capitalism in

this sense see i wouldn't say that that's unfettered capitalism that's i mean one of the most when you talk about divorce courts and all of that, like we don't live in any sort of market there anyway. Those are one of them are some of the most I mean, definitely when we talk about people's kids and and all of that get involved, like those are one of the most crooked like status institutions like in the world. What I mean, what I mean specifically is imagine if it wasn't even divorce. It's just a person with billions of dollars looking you in the eyes and say, everything you believe in, I can wash away with the snap of my fingers because I was given money. Yeah. So I don't like the idea that billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg, you hear about what's going on with him. Apparently, he put tons of money into election systems and a bunch of districts like Philadelphia got millions of dollars to help run their elections. Republicans are furious.

They're like, is that even legal? And I'm like, dude, I don't like the idea that people get super rich and then can basically override our political system. Well, that's why I don't like the – that's why I don't want the political system there in the first place for them to override. And this is why we talk about cronyism and all of those sorts of sorts of concepts and unfortunately people blame that stuff on capitalism as i've been screaming from the mountaintops to get rid of this get rid of that institution get rid of uh privatize this why is the government monopolizing this service when it can easily we accept that for food or something like that that it's that's the government should not be involved

in that yet for whatever reason we apply to other things certainly that the state controls and then we just act as if they have to have it if we're going to talk about like capitalism um and and and and like is it good versus is it bad we i think we have to be honest with ourselves nobody can look immediately in the eye and say what we have now is anything close to that and a lot this is why a lot of rich folk a lot of rich folks specifically in america when it comes to who who they pay and and how they lobby how they vote who they book dance for every single election cycle it's not like they're out there supporting libertarians or something like that not at all they're still go support progressive democrats because they benefit from a lot of these policies, not just with with like regulation or anything like that,

but with grants, like with with the fact that you can just come up with some concept and, you know, you can apply for whatever and the government can use your taxpayer dollars to line these people's pockets. The prison system is is a big time example of that. And the fact that people blame that on we say we got private prisons. No,'t we don't have private prisons like the the fact that they're the the people that they're housing the criminals that they're housing they're not housing criminals that have violated something from that that had there was an actual act of aggression like there's like an actual private property right violation be it in self-ownership or something like that of course not no they're enforcing the laws that and maintaining said um enforcements of the rules by way of of the state well i'll i'll

add to your point about we don't have private prisons i think if you look at the big picture we don't you know why how do where do private prisons get their money from i mean if they were if they were legitimately what are you talking about the ones that exist right now the ones the left says we got these private prisons, right? Yeah. Where's that money coming from? They're coming from the state. Exactly.

So they're private in the sense that they get paid per head in the prison. Yeah. But it's from the government. Yeah, exactly. It's still the government running these things. So I've had my arguments about private prisons, but I think the bigger argument is prison reform in general. Yeah. And I think – my problem with the with the left is one we went over

this like not knowing what a farm is like come on man you know like we can have a discussion about uh economic cooperation versus economic competition but not if you don't know where the chain of production is at all or like how how it starts so i look at like the left that we have in this country and for the most part it's like malformed i i think to be completely honest i've talked about this quite a bit if i like malformed i i think to be completely honest i've talked about this quite a bit if i like idealistically i'm very left libertarian but that works on a farm it doesn't work in in a city it doesn't work in a town you need some way to allow freedom of enterprise and a decentralized method by which you allocate resources yeah if you try and take

left libertarianism to a grand scale it just becomes authoritarianism because you can't enforce cooperation. Once you do, then you're a tanky. You're telling people what they have to do. So it's really interesting to see like the Democratic Socialists of America say like we're not authoritarians. They claim that Bernie Sanders, for instance, on the libertarian spectrum. Let me tell you something. I'm actually not a hardcore taxationist kind of person. You know, Luke has the hat.

Yeah, of course. He's one of us. Yeah i don't but i'll tell you this you got to recognize that if bernie sanders comes in and one of his proposals was 20 of every company should be go to the workers okay if you go into a factory where people are making i don't know uh shoes and then you have cops with you and you say from now on you have to do this. Like you're forcing them to do it. Now you can tell me it's the right thing. That's fine.

But you got to recognize it's the authority that grants you that right to do so. So the way I put it is if you want to really break it down, if you go to someone's house with a gun and say give me your stuff because I'm smarter than you and I'm going to use it appropriately, like, we call that stealing. When it comes to the government, now, the argument I would make is that it's supposed to be a pooled, cooperative place where we can agree upon, you know, what we do and how we do things. But this is the inversion of what I said before about left libertarian. Left libertarian is great. I love saying this bit. You're on a farm with your friends and, like, your hippie friend walks in.

He's like, I grew these watermelons. You want to share them with me? Like, it's really easy when it's just doing your buddies i think you know we had uh jack murphy on and he said that you know like at the home i think it was jack who said this in the home you're a communist right yes you give everything to your kids they don't you know they maybe do chores for it but it's just given so the so i think i'm losing my train of thought but anyway the idea is once you get too big in terms of trying to be like helping everybody, you just become oppressive. You become the oppressor of everybody. So it's like the inverse.

If you go too far in one direction, you no longer have a shared pool of resources where we can work together. You have things being taken by force. So I think there's a happy medium, a place where you have a small town or whatever. And it really does work in small towns where people do pay a tax. It's very little. It's barely any. It's negligible, but it does support local water and stuff like that. But when you get really, really big, then $10 million goes to Pakistani gender studies when people aren't working.

That's a problem. But see, that's why I would say in terms of what I advocate, the way I define, I know we talk about capitalism in a modern sense and how Marx defined it or anything. Let's talk about, you know, me and, you know, me being an anarcho capitalist, how I generally define it is to, you know, private ownerships of goods and services and the free and voluntary exchange of those private goods and services. And this is why you will never find an actual, let's say, libert that sense um in the in the modern libertarian sense since rothbard hijacked the term right in a modern libertarian sense you're not going to find any libertarian that is opposed to people in groups pulling their resources together to provide a particular service none of them will ever oppose that it's the means in which how that how is that accomplished is it voluntarily entered or is it by way of the gun if it's

voluntarily in it and this is why some people call themselves voluntarist then that's perfectly fine and this is why it's not when people say that let's say libertarian or most of capitalism it's specifically about profit like um let's say uh profit and i of capitalism it's specifically about profit like um let's say uh profit and i say no it's not because if i own this water bottle i bought this water bottle i own it it's mine i can sell it to you you can buy it or i can give it to you still capitalism won't either way that it goes i could sell it for a private say if i purchased it for one i sell it to you for two dollars or i can just say hmm i don't need this water anymore do you want it and i can give it to you voluntarily those both exist in a capital what we deem as capitalism and unfortunately a lot of folks pin it on like

pure profit and no this is why we we like the concepts of charity we like the concepts of volunteerism if you guys in a neighborhood or something like that want to pool your resources to provide certain services in the neighborhood neighborhood or something like that want to pull your resources to provide certain services in the neighborhood, security or something like that, no libertarian is going to be like, I don't want that. I think the left has a different definition of profit. Yeah. So they look at profit like, you know, you're the CEO or you're a shareholder of a pharmaceutical

company. You do literally no work for the company, sit back and you get money off of the drugs people are paying. Whereas the actual word profit just means that, you means that the capital raised after costs are covered. So if I made this water bottle and it cost me $5 to make, my labor is the profit. I say I'll sell it to you for $6 and take a dollar for myself. That's $1 profit, but it's what covers the cost of my labor. Yeah. covers the cost of my labor yeah the bigger problem i guess is you know for me i think we

got a problem if there are people in society who leech off of everybody else's labor you know i don't care if it's a government or private institution that's true so when i see big massive pharmaceuticals and you know they're paying millions of dollars to executives who aren't and i'm not saying every executive does nothing a lot of them work really really hard but you got a lot of people get paid a lot for nothing i'll give you a better example it's like these media companies you want to talk about the problem of profit let's talk about how they they they it's it's i'll tell you man there's a really weird class system in capitalism uh or at least whatever you can call what the system we're in right now because it's not a pure capitalism you know in it by any stretch

of the imagination but like people who get paid fifty thousand dollars a year to write listicles about you know cartoons and other nonsense and it happens and i'm like why are they getting all that money when somebody who's working like picking apples is getting paid ten bucks an hour the actual labor to produce our food this is a lefty argument but it's the left that defends those institutions and the extraction of value and labor through these systems. Yeah. They're OK with it. And that's the problem with like definitely when we talk about, you know, with pharmaceuticals and this is why I'm always trying to get to the root of the problem as opposed to just slapping a Band-Aid on a wound or something like that.

When we talk about some of these institutions that exist, including media companies, we got to talk about like monopolization. And that is not I know a lot of people say that they fear monopolization in the in a libertarian society because they think that the government does something to stop it. And I would encourage you to name one monopoly that has ever existed in human history. Bell Monopoly doesn't matter what it is. I was going to say Bell Monopoly that that that has existed, but didn't use the state to leverage themselves into to the position that they have. I talked about like net neutrality. I went through the net. I have a video that I talk about going through the great detail of that and how even the Bell Monopoly would use the state and local governments to basically price people, not even price people out of the market, basically say you can't produce here.

Like you cannot if you even no matter if you had the money, you had the you were willing to do the construction in the area. No, you cannot produce here because the state has basically said that you can do that. Like that's a problem when we talk about IP law. That's another one. When we talk about that, we have to discuss those issues if we're going to like not just hammer capitalism but just markets i think one of the challenges though is uh what happens when everything is owned all property everywhere is owned by somebody like we're there now like there's there's state land well the state owns it the state controls it so what do you do then when you can't go anywhere and you're forced so so here i'll tell you what the problem i have with taxes in a certain sense is a lot of people ask i have

to pay taxes what where where can i go where i don't pay taxes it's like well you can't if you're born in this country you have to and you've never agreed to that but you live here and you do reap the benefits so i was i was pushing libertarian buttons a while ago you know because you know i was making a funny argument i said not paying taxes theft you know why imagine if you live in new york city and we all decided we're going to pitch in our money to build this bridge and you use that bridge and you use the roads that we all decided to pay for but you won't pay for it while you're stealing from us. If that, well, that's the thing though. If it was voluntary, if it was voluntary, then there you go. Yeah. But that's not what we have. The state has monopolized it. And then they

said, even if you want it to build a road, we got, you know, I'm in out of Texas, you know, you want it, you want to build a road. You have to go through us. You have to go. You can't, you can't just up and up and build a road no no no no so when we talk about transportation and and movement and and that sort of freedom uh definitely in this country it's it all starts with the state so my issue and i don't think any libertarians issue is going to be that okay if you if i am am reaping a benefit from a service i have absolutely no problem paying for that i have no problem i would rather everything be privatized so i can itemize that uh so if i'm using uh this this road company's road and and i

have the road pass or what everybody loves to talk about my roads so i have my road my road pass uh that i paid for uh paid for i'm perfectly fine with that what i'm not okay with is the state saying okay i'm going to monopolize it. You can't build a road. And then I'm going to, you know, because I have your money, it's guaranteed. I can either print it out there or I can tax it up out of you. I can drag my feet when I need to fix this or build a new one or something. I like the idea of a referee, you know, making sure people aren't dumping chemicals in the drinking water and stuff like that.

Yeah. But I'll tell you what the real problem is, you know, because I know't dumping chemicals in the drinking water and stuff like that yeah but i'll tell you what the real problem is you know because i know everybody always brings up the roads the easiest way i'll explain how taxation is theft no no again i don't use that i'm not i'm not the staunch yeah but i'll tell you this if you come to my house and you tell me you're taking my money from me and you have guys with guns and they got their hands on their hips like you pay taxes or else and then i say okay is this money gonna go to a pool in our community to help us live better and they go no it's going to package any dinner package pakistani gender studies then i'm gonna be like okay you're

stealing from me to give to people inside the plant to learn about gender gender programs okay i'm sorry man now we got a problem yeah especially right now so i i definitely agree if taxes were really about could you imagine we could have fixed Flint a long time ago? A long time ago. How much money? It wouldn't even take that much to fix Flint relative to the garbage we're spending on. Like Luke bringing up eating bugs and lizards on treadmills. Listen, man.

I know I was saying there's an argument about eating bugs to like to see what humans can and will eat. But I'm willing to forego a couple years of whether or not humans will eat bugs and frogs or lizards walk on treadmills it means we get flint fixed up right yeah that's what taxes are supposed to be about and i think you make a really good point i think every libertarian would gladly itemize and pay for all of the roads and all the plumbing and all the services as long as you showed them oh you're gonna use this here's the here's the cost instead it's like you wake up one day you know a couple thousand dollars missing from your paycheck you know at the end of the end of the month or end of the year whatever and you're like i have no idea where it went yeah someone just took it it's gone i'm pretty

libertarian but i wouldn't that makes me nervous because if bezos owned all the roads but but bezos that's the thing though like i know it's a fear of monopolization but when we talk about like amazon and a big part of of of you know even with them and how they got their money is government like contracts right so when we talk about that like in people and how do they get in the positions that they have how are they able to get the assets it is um that they have what we always look to unfortunately is what we what exists right now and we say well if this person bill gates who we might not like right now he might do this than that but i'm like okay i understand it and i can make it i'm with you a hundred percent on that and being fearful but we don't have right now this like market economy. We don't have a free

market, low tax, low to no tax society in which we live in, in which people are freely and voluntarily able to engage. Business licensing is another one. One of the most crooked things that exists by way of the state where they basically put it behind not just a paywall but some arbitrary sort of uh a licensing agreement where you can't even in certain areas braid people's hair no matter if you got the great talent you can't even braid people's hair without having a license and they'll shut you down do you know what started the arab spring tell me there was a dude who was trying to sell fruit from a fruit cart the government let him there you go he did he went in front of a building and set himself on fire

sparked off people snapped that was it that's all it takes that's all it but but my thing is like i uh even with leftists there are a lot of things that i don't want to say we have common ground on many things i don't think that's more so what it is. It's that a lot of us see that there's a problem is more so what it is. Like you can assess that there's an issue that there's a near trillion dollar bill that's going to a bunch of things that people don't want to pay for. And I don't care where you're at, right, left, up, down, wherever you consider yourself. Generally, people can acknowledge what is wrong what we differ is the solution and unfortunately a lot of people are trying to slap band-aids on the solution and not

chipping away at the actual root of the problem and that's what a lot of certainly i would think people like myself is i'm trying to chip away at that why is this a problem not the fact that it's a problem now yes it's an issue right now but how did it get to that point? Because if you just slap a bandaid on like we talk about money right now, let's just shift the money. That's not necessarily the issue here. You know how I describe it. I always say, you know what? I'm I am absolutely in favor of social programs and taxes. But I'll look at it this way. There was a certain point in our society where we got injured. We got a cut on our arm. And so we were like, okay, we all agree we're going to pool our money together and we're going to get a Band-Aid and we're going to cover up that wound in our society.

We did. A couple years went by. Nobody cared anymore. And they looked at it and saw it was festering and gangrenous. And they said, you guys want to put another Band-Aid on top of it? And they said, yeah, okay. And they slapped another Band-Aid on top. And now it been a hundred years and we have this giant smoldering fester of infected arm because what you need to do is you need you start a program the problem i see with

government programs is they don't fail private enterprise fails bingo you know when it doesn't work because it doesn't work if you have a government program and it fails what we need to do is we need to set time limits okay we're we're going to do an EBT card program. It will have this much money and it will last for one year and then it's gone. And it must be re-voted again by a legislative body to appropriate funding for it in the next session or something like that. We don't do that. We just say we're allocating $10 million for Pakistani gender programs and no one bats an eye and the money just gets siphoned off and goes in the garbage. And again, this is why I'm all for privatization, because like you said, could you imagine any

sort of institution, private, spending on the, I mean, 20-some trillion, we're going to creep it on 30 maybe. 27 trillion. 27, right, yes, in our debt. Could you imagine a private enterprise operating like that for as long as they have been operating it's one thing to take a loss for a year it's another thing to take a a that big of a loss and then know that you you're taking the loss and still spend the money that you don't have but but come on to be honest if my business was failing but i did have a lot of guns my business is going to last forever that's i mean that I mean, that's the problem with the state, right?

Is that it's not even just about the gun. It's that monopolization of more so the law and the approach. So it's like if the government fails, what can you do? There's nothing that, there's not much that you can do unless the vast majority of people just decide to revolt. That's why I think time limits. I think, like, it's got to be a limited any program we implement should be limited with a finite amount of money and it expires and it's

gone the problem with that is that it operates under the eye under the guise that the state is efficient and i think they've shown and they don't have the incentive i think that's the most important thing because i get exactly what it is that you're saying but the problem is that fail right it needs to and they're incentivized actually to do that it's like okay look we have this whether it be with the central banking system and what it does is because we've monopolized that too it allows us to basically monetize federal reserve has allowed us in combination with the treasury to monetize our debt right so when you're not operating with money that you're bringing in, that you have to bring

in, and also money that is, it's reliant upon the consumer, the consumer. And because there's actual competition, the consumer decides, okay, I'd rather my dollar go here versus there because I don't like the way that it is that you're operating. Unfortunately, how it works right now with the state is nothing like that it doesn't matter like the state sucks everybody knows it sucks nothing happens there's no uh opt-out program i don't want to pay for that why am i paying for uh social security i can save my money uh better than any any other government certainly could that's not how it works anyway What the state does is they tax the current generation to subsidize the previous generation. Your money is gone by the time you by the time you're of that age to accept the money.

You just living off the current generation when that when that happens. But that's the problem is that that's what I'm talking about. When I say chipping, it's like an ax you're chipping at. A lot of people are chipping at these branches and not trying to go at the root of the problem. The state monopolization of a lot of these different things. This is why not just competition. It's not just about competition. That's a big part of it.

But it's about that free enterprise to allow people to voluntarily come up with solutions to a lot of these problems. We don't have that. And the state knows that they don't have to have to do that because they monopolized everything. I was reading that there's a correlation between the strength of a country's economy and the ease at which a citizen or civilian can start a business. Absolutely. I want to read this. I want to show you guys this. This is from Wikipedia.

It's Mohamed Bouazizi. He was 26. He set himself on fire. He was a street vendor. And that sparked the Arab Spring, revolutions in multiple countries. Because one dude who was 26 had enough. And I want to tell you just the general base of the story. They say, according to friends and family,

local police officers had allegedly targeted and mistreated Bouazizi for years, including during his childhood, regularly confiscating his small wheelbarrow of produce. But Bouazizi had no other way to make a living. So he continued to work as a street vendor. Around 10 p.m. on the 16th of December, 2010, But Bouzizi had no other way to make a living. So he continued to work as a street vendor. Around 10 p.m. on the 16th of December 2010, he had contracted approximately $200 in debt to buy the produce he was to sell the following day. On the morning of the 17th, he started his workday at 8 a.m.

Just after 10.30 a.m., the police began harassing him again, ostensibly because he did not have a vendor's permit. However, while some sources state that street vending is illegal in Tunisia, and others that Bouzizi lacked a required permit to sell his wares, according to the head of Sidi Bouzid's State Office for Employment and Independent Work, no permit is needed to sell from a cart. Bouzizi did not have the funds to bribe police officials to allow his street vending to continue. Similarly, two of Bouzizi's siblings accused authorities of attempting to extort money from their brother.

And during an interview with Reuters, one of Bozzisi's siblings accused authorities of attempting to extort money from their brother. And during an interview with Reuters, one of his sisters stated, What kind of repression do you imagine it takes for a young man to do this? A man who has to feed his family by buying goods on credit when they fine him and take his goods. In Sidi Bouazid, those with no connections and no money for bribes are humiliated, insulted, and not allowed to live. So ultimately, they took his stuff from him. He decides he can't do anything anymore. He has no means

to make a living. Think about that. You really got to imagine you're in this position. You have no chance to make money, to run your business. You take on debt.

You want to work hard. The dude clearly wanted to work, but the state would not let him. So he goes, sets himself on fire. Now think about how crazy this is. arab spring we saw military dictators removed from power after decades all because the small this this government these government actors in tunisia were like you can't sell those apples or whatever fruit he had and that's all it took they shut this guy's down

his chance to run a business. And survive. And feed his family. And he wasn't. He wasn't. He's. You know. I'll tell you this.

I talk about a referee. I talk about playing fair. And the example I use is. Dumping chemicals in the water. Poisoning the water supply. A dude selling fruit on the street corner. They wouldn't let him do it. So he ignited this massive wave of revolutions.

I tell you this. If. If. When all that was going down i assure you that people like gaddafi and mubarak were sitting there and i probably weren't but just imagine them saying like i wish those those those cops didn't harass that guy for a permit because none of this would happen if they just let him sell some fruit and that's like that's of course an example that's an historic example and one that people need to pay attention to.

But you'd be surprised how many examples, obviously not people setting themselves on fire, but how many examples of people that are either fined. That fine turns into a warrant. They're thrown in jail because of something like that. Just because of the state has decided that you don't have the proper licensing which should be privatized as well but you don't have the proper licensing to to let's say sell this particular product it sounds insane but that's exactly what happens in this country right now let me tell you something i just did a quick google search what are the gun laws in tunisia and i pull up this reddit post i don't know if it's true but they asked from two years ago how strict are gun laws here i can't seem to find anything about tunisian gun laws anywhere i just know that basically no civilian has them the top comment says gun laws are very strict no civilian can

own or carry a gun except for hunters who are required to get a permit and a license for to uh for a license for a hunting rifle. And even then, they have to inform local police station in their area that they're going to go hunt so they can get permission. I just looked that up because I'm wondering, if somebody in America was put in a position like that, I was like, I can't imagine they'd light themselves on fire. They might do something real crazy. And then I wondered why this guy chose to do that.

And then I looked it up. In America, people got something real crazy. And then I wondered, like, I wonder why this guy chose to do that. And then I looked it up. Like, you know, in America, people got guns like crazy. Yeah. You know? And so if somebody was on the verge, I'll put it this way. It's one quote, man. I love it because I brought it up several times in the past week from Ulysses S. Grant.

He said, it is the right of any person, if they feel repressed by their government, to enact a revolution. But you have to know that you're putting your life, your property, and your guarantees as a citizen on the line. And should you lose, you must live under the rules of your conqueror. So you've got people right now with the COVID lockdown, with these videos, man, these videos of dancing nurses. That's the mockery. But I'll put it this way. Your life has been destroyed.

Everything you worked for, your small business, your restaurant, it's gone. It's been shut down. A third of small businesses in New Jersey, gone. So everything you dreamed of, everything you fought for has been taken from you. That's your property, gone. Your life. You're fighting so hard to survive and eat food, and they're threatening that as well. So you've already made the choice for so many people. That's what scares me. When I see that quote, I'm like, if you're, if you listen to this grant, what's telling people you're choosing to put those things on the line. I get that.

But what happens when the state makes people put those on the line already? You have no guarantees as a citizen, your first amendment, your constitutional rights have been taken from you. You can't gather. You can't, you can't go out and drink with your friends. Even though the first amendment says

you can peaceably assemble for whatever reason, you can't go to church. Now your property is gone the First Amendment says you can peaceably assemble for whatever reason. You can't go to church. Now your property is gone and now you're at the risk of losing your life. People are going to explode. Now I'll tell you the dancing nurse thing is insult to injury. You've got these people at a time when – and they say, oh, but they're stressed out and they're dancing. Bro, they're dancing on graves. There are people at these hospitals who are dying and they're putting out these videos of them dancing on graves.

So anyway, I bring that up just to say like you take those factors from elisa s grant and i feel like people in this country are ready to explode and you and we've already seen some crazy stuff go down we've seen some political violence but then you add the insult on top of it the gretchen whitmer's laurie light foots going out and getting their hair done gavin newsom going out to dinner they're slapping you in the face they're dancing in hospitals where there's supposed to be this crisis going on. That's the insult. They're spitting on you after they've taken everything from you. I think people are going to explode. And that's what I bring up. In Tunisia, a guy set himself on fire. America's very different. And that's why I've been talking about the dramatic escalation and the potential

for real serious, some kind of civil conflict of sorts or whatever with january 6th coming up i got worried that's why i i'll tell you this too i'm getting away from these cities taxes are too high they're ridiculous the rules and restrictions are nuts and so i chose i choose to go somewhere else and it makes it hard to get good internet you know what i mean so it's like you take it's a trade-off though yeah it's like they were fiber with me right i try to stay in the middle of nowhere and get fiber it's like a trade-off i gotta get one or the other um there's certain pockets you can but you bring up a great point um about when it comes to the lockdowns right this can got kicked down the road for eight nine months this is march we're about to enter into 2021 it's actually 10 months of slow the spread yes it's it's amazing how long that's going going on

but you're starting to see it especially in spots like new jersey that are very very strict and you're starting to see people say no more bro and i honestly when we talk about it if we can get on the other side of this peacefully or as peaceful as possible let's say that i don't want to say peacefully let's say as peaceful as possible it has it may have to come by way of mass forms of civil disobedience i think i think non-violent civil disobedience would end it overnight yeah exactly like if everybody just went up and said no no more like we don't care you can't arrest us all uh and just go about their business what is what is it that they can do see a lot of folks like stability though you know it's like and i get it this is why i would never i would defend any man or woman

that will put their their life on the line which is essentially what you're doing when you're going against the state and say no more but i would never just say just you know i wouldn't get mad at you for not doing it because a lot of folks just want stability and they just they just want to be able to go about their business do you hear this story two women arrested after hosting 200 person bar in jersey they were gambling they were partying they were eating black market you know here's what i'm saying when the government takes away all opportunity then all the other laws break down too so you know one of the things i was saying a couple weeks ago when they start saying you can't run your business and people are forced to say, well, I run my business or

I die, they're going to open their business. But then they're going to start noticing, well, if I broke those laws, right? And I had, you know, it's like, how hard is it to just continue? So you see this. These two women open a makeshift bar, they say, because they're serving drinks. Well, it's already illegal what they're doing, I guess. Who wants to throw out the dice? Who wants to play poker?

Who wants to order a bunch of food and we'll just cook food and eat it? It's just fine. If we're already breaking the law, why don't we just break it, right? So that's another thing I'm worried about. If the government keeps enforcing lockdowns that are unreasonable and people can't survive, then they'll start creating businesses. And since they're already on the other side of the law, they're going to do whatever they want. Well, it's a desperation as well. I mean, it's like, you can't just shut people down and change

that, change how they live their lives just overnight like that. And then you keep pulling the rug from under people. It's like, all right, we'll let you open. Wait a minute. Here we go. We got to lock you down for a second and third time arrest you if you're trying yeah and and that's got to be the most most insulting part of it but yeah people are at some point are going to like fight back and you can sit up here and blame you know say that they don't care about people say that they want to kill grandma uh and all of these sorts of things again it goes back to the risk and it goes back to the trade-off that we were talking about earlier and earlier on in the show. And that is it actually worth,

I don't think people understand the numbers. You mentioned like a third of businesses in New Jersey. We're talking about by the thousands, man of people that are, there's no, okay, I will reopen when they allow us to reopen. They're done.

Yup. They dipped in their savings. They exhausted that. Do you not understand how long that is? Nine months. That's a very, very long time. And a lot can crash and burn in that period of time. It may seem like nothing, but it's like we said earlier, going to the people that don't understand how things are produced. They don't even care about that. It doesn't even makes it definitely, I guess, people that work at these big chains. These farms, right? They were, I forgot what it's called, but they

take all the crops and they just roll them over and bury them again because they're like, we can't sell them. And then I kept hearing from these leftists when the dairy farm dumped all the milk. They were like, why don't they just send the food to a food bank? And I'm like, do you know that when they produce the milk, it goes to get pasteurized? It goes to get

bottled? It goes to a distributor? It goes to a distributor it goes to a warehouse it goes to trucks there's like four or five steps in between the dairy farm has dairy and the store has cream cheese and milk yeah not only that they can make they can get all the milk from the cow and then where does it go for processing is the farm actually doing the cream cheese and the sour cream and the yogurt and all that stuff too probably not probably you got another factory that you that imports a bunch of cream or milk and then from there turns it into something else. So you go to your store shelf, it's all gone. You can't just take raw milk and put it in a food bank.

Now people developed programs to get it processed to the point where they could and get a bare minimum product. So there were attempts to do that. But they didn't realize. They didn't realize the supply chain and how intricate it is. It's a beautiful thing. And obviously, when when it's working as freely as it possibly can, you're lifting the living standards of so many different people because there's a lot of a lot of people moving within that. It's not just, OK, former Brown store. It's not that simple. You know what I mean? In some places that maybe if you live in a very very small town it is but for the most part that's not how it works there are several uh things in

between when we talk about the supply chain that is okay it came from a farm and then it got on your plate or it got in your refrigerator or wherever it is or it got in and you actually um consumed it but that's why it's so heartbreaking for me to hear people lose like their that's their livelihood you know i don't think people understand how much people save up like that was their dream right to open a bar or something like that and i say this is someone that's in the music industry uh doing you know metalcore and hardcore and seeing the venues that we play at even in my in my city right in in dfw that are shut down for good they tried to call themselves doing this whole like bar thing uh where you know we'll cook some wings or something like that to

try to remain open but it wasn't good enough of course and then they're shut down so that's a venue that of course i can't go we can't go to when we get back on the road but that's that i don't think people understand like they can deem it as non-essential, but that's that person's livelihood. That's why I never liked that term. Like, how do you tell someone that what it is that they do is not essential? A lot of these people, right, a lot of these people in cities who are advocating for this stuff are,

I mean, they don't know the blood, sweat, and tears. When I hear things like it's insured, right? When the riots happen. Oh, my God. I'm like, you realize people will take their first dollar and they'll sign it and they'll put it on the wall. When you burn that building down, can they buy that new first dollar? No, it's gone forever. There are things of abstract value to people that can't be remade. How about this?

What if a celebrity came in and autographed a picture and put it up? Now it's gone. Are they going to call that celebrity back up tell them to come back in for a burger when they rebuild no of course not yeah what about if their mom made him a painting and their mom died and they had it they're at their small town shop it's been open for 10 years and when the grand opening you know their mom came in and she she made a drew a painting for him put it up and they said i always remember the day she came in it was one of the most beautiful days of my life my successful business business. You burn it down. The mom's long since passed.

That memory has been destroyed. Oh, but insurance will pay for it. A lot of these people who are saying those things are the same people talking about the lockdowns. We'll just pay everybody. That's a great point, by the way. That's a great point. Yeah, you can't get those things back, man.

Yeah, like that. And every business has them. Every single one. And it's not like insurance, depending kind of kind of insurance that they have unfortunately it's just like with this like these lockdowns they think it's that simple like it's just an on and an off switch like you'll be back everything will be fine it's no big deal government will pay you to not work and you know if you had your business destroyed uh the insurance company will just write you a big check to refund every single thing the next day.

That's not how it works. It doesn't work. People, you know, being in the South and being in Tornado Alley, it's people like last year that had a tornado come through. And they're still, like, trying to get that money. It's not like the insurance companies just write that stuff just willy-nilly. Definitely, if it's all happening at once. It's a wheelbarrow of cash to the city thrown out in stacks.'s that easy but it goes to show how much they simply don't understand and the frightening thing is that these guys then go vote for also yeah low and low information people

that pass legislation and and so forth it's it kills you it's the same thing like i was saying about how they don't understand that you know the dairy farm has to send that milk to a processing plant or whatever. When Minneapolis got destroyed, they were like, insurance will pay for it. Guess what? Insurance didn't cover debris removal, only a certain amount. So most of these businesses were like, okay, we can't remove the debris. We can't rebuild. Bye.

And they left. That was it. Because, yeah, it's like I was reading a story in the Star Tribune, the Minneapolis newspaper. They were talking about insurance companies in the area have a cap on how much they can give you to remove the rubble from your destroyed building. So they were like, okay, so if we have to spend $100,000 to remove the rubble, and that's $75,000 out of our pocket, and they're only giving us a check for $200,000 to rebuild, we can't rebuild. So we just leave. We're done. It's over.

That's it that and unfortunately you obviously you have to go to the local um like newspapers to try to hear stories like that i remember when those um like riots and all that stuff broke down and i remember seeing this this man uh i had to go of course to a local uh a local coverage and this man just uh had put like his life savings um into this bar he had his dream of wanting to open a sports bar. And in the background while they're filming, you got these fools just breaking into the safe. Well, check this out. So I covered this story.

So he was there. He's crying. They're filming as the people are stealing from him. The next day, they burn the whole building down. But that dude ended up raising like a million bucks to rebuild. So I donated. I did a video. Yeah, I did that too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because this guy was a firefighter. He was a good dude. It was his dream. And I hope he had a good time with all that money. I hope a bad day turned into the best day of his life. Yeah, absolutely. And it's just unfortunate because how many businesses don't get that, right?

Let's talk about the insult to the injury, right? Oh, yeah. The Black Lives Matter protests at a time when they're locking everybody down and they ignore it they act like it never happened they cheered it on they cheer it on they cheated on and then they tell you to shut up stop going out stop enjoying yourself stop going to church and then when you say but what about the black lives matter protest they say i don't you're talking about shut your mouth then you got the dancing nurses i really want to get in the dancing nurses right so i got this this this cart this comic from uh george alexopolis we have him on the show he's a great artist you see his paintings on our wall on our

wall i'm gonna just read for you the panels for those that are watching you can see it but for those that are listening the first panel is an old man on life support got him got an oxygen mask and they see a word bubble i i miss you dad the next one shows him you know with the ekg going off and she is a woman she says i only wish that it could have held your hand one last time as she cries and the last panel is as she's holding her hand up to the glass of, you know, that blocks it from her dying father. Nurses and doctors are smiling and laughing and dabbing and dancing and having a good old time dancing on the graves of these people. I tell you, man, you've got Joe Biden wins. They go out and they're dumping up and down. They're dancing

and cheering. They're pulling their masks off, drinking champagne and passing it around. They tell you that doesn't matter. Ignore that. It's the businesses that are the problem, even though the science doesn't support it. Then you go to these hospitals where they say 4,000 people every day are dying. And I'm like, man, that's crazy. That's scary. And what do we get?

Videos of these shuffle dances where they clearly, there's one video where they're in different rooms of the hospital doing choreographed dances in multiple scenes and i'm like come on at best that was like four or five hours where they practiced and went around the hospital these people are are laughing in your face there's a there's a there's a viral youtube video this is crazy where it's a woman filming on a cell phone and she's going what's going on like talking to a guy like what's happening like We've been waiting here for ages. Are they taking anybody? And there's a guy, and he's like, I don't know.

Look. And then they look down the hallway, and it's a bunch of doctors and nurses dancing, and they got mops, and they're shuffling. And this woman's like, I can't believe this. I can't believe this. Oh, my God. Is this why we're not getting any service? Yes.

They're laughing at you. They're getting followers off of your back. Here's what I said. You know, I like this comic from George. I said, imagine you show up to a funeral. There's a dead body. And there are people there crying. And you're wearing your funeral black.

And then you go, okay, everybody, we're going to do a TikTok. Everybody wants to dance and do this dance number with me. How many people, how many punches you get in the face, you think? People would get up and you'd get smacked yeah but these people in the hospitals they're the administrators they're the nurses it's their space you can't go in there to hold the hand of your father or your mother or your grandfather your grandmother as they're dying many men can't be there for the birth of their children and the doctors and the nurses are doing tiktok videos and dancing around and they're still doing it this whole year.

Do you see the one earlier in the year where they were carrying the body bag and dancing? Oh, that was bad. What is wrong with that? It said COVID on it. Yeah, it said COVID. That was one of the worst ones that I had seen. But I talked about this off air, how my just perception of that industry has changed so much. Yes. After this,

because I generally looked at them like a positive thing and, and folks that I'm pretty sure there'll be people in the chat. Like you never dated a nurse. So you, you, you didn't know you, you never knew. And maybe I was a little ignorant that maybe they always been that way. And I just was ignorant.

They were self-righteous, sanctimonious. They were just always like that. Maybe that was just always how they were. And I just didn't realize it, even though I have a couple of nurses. Maybe it's because their family. I'm blind to how it is that they are. But after this year, I mean, it's just completely changed.

Just considering how like let's let's let's let's let's take a step back here. Remember, we started with the slow to spread that turned into a month. George Floyd happens. And I and I want people to understand what what took place there and that they shut everybody down. They've still been shut down up until that point. And it wasn't enough for them to just be OK. We're going to start protesting everywhere so all of the stuff that they lectured you about lectured you about uh social distancing that just went completely out of the window you know but what really frustrated me was when i would see nurses doctors hospital workers in their little ppe or, actually outside their hospitals, clapping and cheering them on.

So imagine being a business owner, someone that lost everything, everything. And they had told you everything that they had been lecturing you to do. And we got up until that point and then it just went out the window. And then the folks that were doing it because they agree with them politically and socially they said it's okay for them to do it they'll get all of the experts and public officials and everything and they'll say yeah uh it's okay for them to do it it's a little different god forbid someone house a rally or something like that we got these protests breaking out in the hundreds all around

the country and that was perfectly fine and not only are they still dancing like we talked about earlier with the nurse uh making videos about skittles what she was saying in that was basically shut up how dare you bring uh bring up the survival rate How dare you question what it is that we do and what it is that we say? Who cares that you lost your business? Why even talk about that? And they're dancing. So they're spitting on your face. They're laughing.

And it's like they're bucking at you, right? They're like, yeah, what you going to do about it? Let me just give you some photos for those that are watching. This first photo I have, you may remember. It's a doctor standing in front of a car with her arms crossed. Another photo of a man standing in front of an SUV with his arms crossed. And there's a woman with a sign that says land free and got an American flag. Boy, did that go viral?

The nurses who stood up to these anti lockdown protesters, right? Telling them you coming out here, you're putting us all at risk. How dare you? That's right. How righteous and what a good, noble thing. Honorable. Well, here's the next photo. A bunch of doctors protesting in a massive crowd, shoulder to shoulder with their fists up.

You can easily pull up the BuzzFeed article. I don't know if it's BuzzFeed, but BuzzFeed has like the viral photos of the doctors blocking the cars. Then you get another article and it says the, you know, doctors clap and cheer for, for protesters spitting in your face. They took your property. They destroyed your business. Nothing is left. Then the rioters showed up and smashed what was left and burned to the ground. And the doctors were dancing on the graves of the dead while cheering for those who burned down the businesses elsewhere.

And I'm supposed to be like, let's all clap and cheer for the nurses and doctors. Yeah, they're heroes. It was a picture that showed 1918 Spanish flu, and it showed all these hospital beds with white sheets over all these assumedly dead people. And then next to it to a 2020 dancing doctors. Ninety nine point nine percent recovery rate.

The entire world is shut down. Isn't that amazing, though, like how how they can get away with that? But you bring up a great point, Tim, and how it's like we're supposed to just praise them and worship them at the altar for every. Look, I get it if if you're a nurse you know or a doctor you have a job you may be going through this tough uh tough experience or rather a unique experience i understand all of that but do you not understand how many people have lost everything it is that we and no they don't they don't understand it right right exactly and and my thing is and a

lot of folk don't seem to want to mention this do you remember this whole lockdown thing and the restrictions thing started so we could protect them now but it was a quasi way that they would say well you need to you need the uh you may need the service and what if all the hospital been but this whole reason why we did this why you had to put your life on pause why you had to shut your business down for an indefinite amount of time was so we could alleviate the stress for them and then they had nerd to say that they're the ones that are the heroes as they dance on people's graves i got another one from today.com this one's a video returning the favor ny health care workers cheer for protesters there they are all laughing and smiling.

The nerve of these people to block the anti-lockdown protesters, to mock and belittle them, and then cheer for the larger, massive George Floyd protests and riots. And this video I have is from June 3rd. This is like the peak week of all the rioting, the first week of June.

They destroyed, we mentioned that guy the firefighter he wanted his dream business sports bar and they burnt to the ground and what does what does kamala what's kamala harris do she she requests funds to help belly's people out the left cheered for those who violated lockdowns and my favorite story out of all of this was from like university of colorado it said it said george floyd protests actually reduced transmission it was it was it was too good of a protest it actually made covet back go back the other way because you know the boards you say affect you know uh you know yeah the virus that's how it works is that you know if viruses sees all these people that are

doing their thing they're holding up justice right and it's like oh wait a minute i can't go there let's go to the trump rally yeah is that a gadsden flag oh we're there yeah get them all march being like okay you want a couple weeks i'll give you to get everything situated i'll put my life on hold for you and now i want them off my back yeah no you get off my back seriously seriously like it's like we i could i guess i can give you some kind of leeway because you didn't understand what was happening though i've been covering it since march and i saw i saw the numbers happy you know i saw everything playing out and i was like okay i'll give you that but we're we're we're nine ten months into this thing and they're still

taught they're moving the goal post Fauci I don't know if he has a position that he's held that's of principle like he just actually held that position and wasn't just trying to hold the position that other people wanted him to have the herd immunity thing which he had grilled remember Rand Paul maybe I don't know if y'all remember that big spat that he and Rand Paul had about that where people's like Rand Paul doesn't know what he's talking about and now all of a sudden he's shifted on the position. So Rand was right about the whole herd immunity thing. But that's perfectly fine.

He gets on magazines. What is this? Now, Rand is a dentist, right? He's a dentist? He's an eye doctor. Eye doctor. But he still went to medical school. You got to go.

Oh, yeah. And then eye doctor's specialty. So he clearly does have medical experience. Yeah. He's not just some Joe Blow, the words of his father. Right. Also, it's not like these guys are. No. Yeah, exactly. Like they they know a little something about something. But it's like we worship this guy at the altar and we got to hold the whole entire country hostage for Fauci.

Like and they and they keep moving the post. It's like, OK, 15 days to slow the spread. And what a lot of folks seem to forget that 15 days to slow the spread had absolutely nothing to do with stopping people from getting the virus. It was about spreading it out over a period of time. So the hospitals don't get overwhelmed. The number of the people that were going to get infected was always going to be that number. They already assume that. So why is it that we move from that to. Well, now we don't want anybody to get the virus and now it's like to a vaccine and then wait now we got a vaccine we don't know if if you can still gonna work we don't really know so we still gotta keep you shut so they that's the big spit in the face is that they'll set this sort of arbitrary standard

and then they'll just we get to it and then they just move it they just move i mean look what they're doing in new york they're gonna buy up the cheap property now so that these lockdowns destroyed the economy destroyed property value and then you get the blaster saying we're gonna buy it up how many billions of dollars is moderno made pfizer yeah a lot a lot guaranteed contracts how much how how in bed are they with politicians look Oh, dude, look, look, look. All of it is the largest transfer of wealth from working class people to the elites. In human history. In human history.

Yes, like this is a big, big deal. Like the Walmarts, and that's what I didn't understand. That was my big thing because my lady is a, you know, she has her own craft shop and stuff. So I was like, okay, the bigger Walmart,

they could remain open and of course you can get your craft items there but you couldn't go to like even hobby lobby you couldn't go to anywhere else so dude they were funneling people there do you see the story about the woman in jersey where she was filming her store on facebook live saying like you know my store is closed because of the lockdown but i'm gonna film what i have and if you want to buy it, message me. The cops showed up and told her to stop. So when that happened, I knew right away they're not doing this because of COVID. The woman was – the cops show up, and it's all live streamed.

And she goes, can I help you? I'm like, you got to close. She goes, we are closed. I'm like, no, no, no, you're selling stuff online. And she goes, yeah, I'm like, you can't do that. You got to stop. They shut her down, and she didn't even have people in her store. Man, and that's the one that you want to talk about,

pilling some of these people that are on the opposite side. I think the whole, the police thing, right? I think a lot of folks are, especially the guys that protected them, are starting to understand like what it is, like who these guys actually work for um and who enforces some of these uh not some of them all of them they why we call them the teeth of the state is right it is is right there and i'm seeing a lot of people just like wow these guys will go into great lengths i supported these guys and they will go great but to shut me down a lot of cops

are quitting in mass we have seen that yeah a lot of cops going for a variety of reasons. Yeah. But I'll tell you this. I think you've got the cops right now are the most consequential group in the country because the edict from, say, Cuomo is nothing unless there is someone willing to enforce the edict of the governor. Yeah. Now, a lot of cops are quitting, but NYPD is loaded with a bunch of people who have

they just are willing to break their oath to the Constitution. Why? I think it's simple. Everyone's out of work. They can see the other side. They can see what it would be like to have no job. And so they're like, I don't know. I fight for me before anybody else.

They fight for me before I fight for the Constitution. The reason we started the U.S. government was so that someone didn't have a monopoly on force anymore. Yeah. It's actually in the believe it or not. And people get rag on me for being an, an, an, an cap.

I'd encourage you guys to read the declaration of independence. Oh, I've read it. You know, some funny stuff. Yes. Like, and what it talks about,

if the, you know, removing actually the, the government, like it's actually in there. Like, it's not anything that like, no,

it's actually believed that like it is, it is the right of the people. Yeah. Well, hold on. By's not anything that, no, they actually believed that. It is the right of the people. Well, hold on. By what authority did any of these men have to declare that they weren't part of the British Empire? They weren't officials. They had no lordship. God-given. Yeah, exactly.

That's the way the British Crown saw it. Some random guys, property owners and rich people thought they had the right to claim that we aren't. No, no, no. We're the government. And that was the fight. Yeah. So, you know, that's a big question about government.

And it ultimately comes down to confidence. Who believes in which? And civil disobedience. I like how you guys are going in this direction. I want to talk more about that. Well, nonviolent civil disobedience. Nonviolent civil disobedience. There's a two-pronged assault, I suppose you would say.

You've got the government and the Federal Reserve. So we can stop paying interest back to the Federal Reserve because we can't afford it. Well, it's the government who does it. Yeah, so we'll stop funding it. And then we, with the civil disobedience regarding COVID, I leave that to you as a business owner and do it the right thing. Now, the issue is sound currency. And so if you want to talk about Federal Reserve, the problem is the U.S. dollar and just control and mass printing of it.

Yeah, that's the problem with the monopolization. That's why we need the competition, though. That's why Bitcoin. I was just about to say that. That's why cryptocurrency and all of those things. I would like more of that. I would like more of those competing firms and more of those competing currency. But you bring up a great point,

and that's the two side of this of this civil disobedience um and that we need like it doesn't i don't want it to get violent but if they keep pushing people's buttons like the way that they are where you you mentioned i think that's the biggest slap in the face could you imagine living in california right now and having your business be completely derailed especially in the restaurant uh business and then you see like um whether it be mayor london breed or or newsome at the french french like could you imagine that like i just i couldn't i'm not i'm obviously not not in that state but could you just imagine being in this is why you you add all of that to the election stuff. It's funny, man. You know, I talk about normalcy bias.

You know, normalcy biases. It can't happen here. Yeah. But this past year has not been anything close to normal at all. These past four years have been anything but normal. There's no more normal anymore. Right? We had a kind of normal.

But even when things were going really well in 2019 with the booming economy, we had this crazy problem of the orange, like the obsession of Trump in the media. Not talking about things anymore, constantly screaming, and media just went nuts and broke. We've not been a normal for a long time. I've lost faith in the U.S. government in the last two decades with the Iraq war, basically, with the extraction of wealth from the Middle East. But this COVID thing has gotten me totally shaken in their ability to lead. But combine that with Joe Biden. Joe Biden is Obama 2.0. Yeah.

And what are we going to get? We're getting Goldman Sachs and lobbyists in the transition team. Look how protected they are. The Hunter Biden thing, I thought that that was going to be like... People are going to blow. Their heads are going to explode figuratively. They're just going to lose it. Biden thing I thought that that was gonna be like uh people are gonna blow like their minds are

gonna their heads are gonna blow explode figuratively they're just gonna lose it yeah like I thought that the Hunter Biden thing was like that was one of the biggest like cover-ups for a long period of time and then it wasn't until like he had to come out and say well yeah I'm being investigated and then the more the mainstream media was like oh well there's a problem even though everybody else for months have been called conspiracy theorists. Now it's useful to them, though. You know why? Because now they got an excuse to get rid of Biden to put Kamala Harris in.

Yep. That's exactly what they're probably going to do. So now they're like, oh, hey, great. Let's rag on Biden. We don't care. We want a Kamala in the first place. But she couldn't get any support. And that's why they want that control.

That's exactly what they wanted. But I mean, I've obviously never had faith. Definitely recently in the government. But you brought up the point, which is fantastic, in that when we talk about we there's like this whole return to normalcy and how, you know, you talk about that, that that concept of, well, that would never happen. We were talking about that in March when I would, for example, say, y'all know this ain't going to just be for two weeks, right? And people said, there's no way that that would happen. It's just a couple of weeks. What's the big deal?

Government's not going to shut you down for a long extended period of time. And that's exactly what it was that they did. Dude, I remember when Trump announced he was banning travel to Europe and like we were all sitting in the basement at our old studio and the tv's on or watching it we all just like looked at each other like jaw drop dude like we didn't think we were getting anywhere close to this this kind of stuff happening that's crazy right it can't happen here yeah so i tell you this man january 6th coming up and they're saying you know all these trump supporters are going to show up i'm getting messages from people that are like armchair activists they're on the internet they're complaining they're posting memes but they don't get out and they're telling me they're going to

dc so that's why i decided i was like all right let's try and figure out a way to do the show from somewhere in dc like really close by we can have guests come on because i think it's going to be big but i'll tell you this people keep saying trump can win. My personal opinion is it's probably not going to happen. We were even talking about it before the show. It's going to be Biden. Pence is going to say for Biden. But then you talk about locking everything down. You talk about how abnormal this whole year has been.

At this point, if Mike Pence came out and was handed the stack of electoral votes and just pulled out a lighter and lit it up and was like, I'm the vice president. Trump is the president. Welcome to 2024. We're staying in for that long. I'd just be like oh well you know it's another day huh yes like people crazy things have happened people are saying 2021 you think it thinks you think 2020 was bad this is the warm-up this is the opening act yeah it's not even begun yet man look and i think that's true people keep saying oh 2020 was such an awful

year okay well now you got joe biden's people saying we got to lock down until 2022. Force mask, national nationwide mask mandates. So they're going to keep the lockdowns going. Now you got this vaccine and we don't know if it actually stops the spread of COVID. People can still get it, apparently. That's so crazy to me. So businesses are shut down. People are on the, like tens of millions of people on the verge of eviction either because

of foreclosure or because they can't pay rent 600 bucks ain't gonna cut it 2000 bucks I don't think it's gonna cut it the average debt now I think for a rent or mortgage is like 6 grand because it's been a year people don't have any money left so

it feels like everything that's happening is going to lead us to a point where it's like escape from New York, man. It's Mad Max. I'm exaggerating a little bit. But I'll tell you this. We brought up Mohamed Bouazizi. His whole bit was that he couldn't sell apples. He couldn't sell apples.

Who will be on that? He couldn't sell apples. Yeah, exactly. Who will be on that? You can't even leave your house. You can't leave your house, man. Exactly. So, I mean, exactly. Well beyond that. You can't even leave your house. You can't leave your house, man. Exactly. So, I mean, seriously.

I'm out in the middle of nowhere, and I'm going to continue moving further and further away. We're going to get a big West Virginia property, 100 acres, mine our own business. Man, sounds like the life right there. Yeah, just middle of nowhere. That's the other thing I think about with taxes, too. I'm like, just move to the middle of nowhere. You don't got to pay. The taxes are like 10 bucks.

No. It's like nothing. That's the motive. A lot of people are stuck. Yup. That's right. Yeah to pay, the taxes are like 10 bucks. No. It's like nothing. That's the motive. A lot of people are stuck. Yup. That's right. Yeah. No, a lot of people are stuck

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so thank you all so much for the super chat so far. Riley Lewin was the first super chat. He said, Hey, Tim, do you think America is going to fully collapse? And if you do, what year? I believe yes. And by 2025 ish. Maybe, you know, there's a lot of different ways to look at it. But I mean, we were just talking about this. People, you know, I'll say again, Muhammad was easy. He couldn't sell his fruit from his fruit cart. And that set off all of these different countries across, you know, the Middle East and North Africa. Right now, you got a lot of people in this country who believe in a constitution, who believe in a declaration of independence, and who are armed to the teeth.

And I'm scared. I'm worried, man. Maybe scared isn't the right word. Maybe just like, I don't know. It's alert. This is why it was so like. I'm bordering on prepping. I'll put it that way. And this is why I was telling people when the protests and stuff broke down, I was like, if that stuff leaks out to the suburbs or the countryside, because most of most of the time in the inner city

yeah that could have that could have detonated something like very bad i think you know we saw uh stewart rose's name right from uh keepers yeah he said half the country is not going to recognize anything that comes out of joe biden's mouth as legitimate they're not going to view him as their president and then everything we learned learned about Hunter Biden in China and stuff, we already heard from Hillary Clinton that Joe Biden shouldn't concede under any circumstances. So what they're accusing Trump of doing, it was their idea in the first place. Then you got, so Trump's not going to concede under any circumstances. But then you, I remember when John Podesta said he would prefer the West Coast to cede from the union than allow Trump to

win. What's the alternative on the Trump side? Are they just going to say like, oh, well, you know, we lost better just, you know, come back out tomorrow? Or are they going to be like, well, everything I own has been destroyed and taken from me. And you know, my life is in shambles. And then now Joe Biden's going to become president wants to lock everything down for a couple years. My friends, you're already under martial law. Okay? Effectively, yeah. Exactly. Effective martial law. Martial law literally means military law, like the military supersedes the law comes in.

But typically, people say martial law to refer to totalitarian lockdown, when statutory law no longer matters, and despotic authoritarians just dictate. Did you think, I'll say this, you know you know because because i said it before but for you everybody did you think when the authoritarian dictatorship came it would just one day blink into existence like there would just be a dictator like i'm a chancellor uh you know i'm supreme chancellor i don't think that's happened ever in in history first they signed the patriot act no no listen listen when we read these books 1984 when we when we watch v for vendetta these governments don't just blink into existence starts with a false flag usually well it starts with any emergency whether legitimate or not absolutely

covid happens and all of a sudden the first thing we hear is andrew como says people of new york i now have supreme executive authority to do whatever i want honestly and no one can stop me and every single cop will do whatever the first thing that happened was the trade centers came down the world got put on high terror alert oh it was way before that people have been afraid since then i mean that was the that was the catalyst yeah that was a big catalyst with the patriot act but before that there was the there was the world trade center 1993 bombing yeah that was little was that this is like a global pandemic of fear since yeah well no but that's that's the thing well that's exactly what it is that like that's pretty much happened

everywhere in in really in human history they don't generally rise by way of saying that okay i'm going to destroy the economy i am going to um have the state control absolutely everything generally generally every time it's okay okay, I care about you. I want to protect you. I want to protect my people. And then that's what ends up in Zadong and Pol Pot and Hitler. And that's what you get. That's exactly what you get.

Let me tell you something. You ever hear the saying, it is better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer? You ever hear that? Yeah. That's Blackstone's formulation interestingly side note it's actually rooted in the bible in the story of sodom and gomorrah you know if there's but one righteous person i won't destroy this i won't destroy the city it's really interesting stuff when i was reading about it benjamin franklin said it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer i can't remember the

founding father who wrote about it that may have been john John Adams writing that innocence must be protected at all costs. For if the innocent man no longer feels he can be protected, then what's to stop him from resorting from crime or resisting the government? Something to that effect. It's very, very interesting. Then you get – what's his name? Brunswick? No, no, no. What was his name?

Who was the German dictator guy? I'm probably getting the name. No. Yes, but I'm not referring to him specifically german dictator uh maybe it wasn't maybe it wasn't german um like austria austria hungary empire whatever what year bismarck that was on bismarck yes german he said it is better that 10 innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape the mark of authoritarianism is the idea that innocent people should suffer to prevent the bad from getting away with what they do. So you take a look at what they're doing now. What Cuomo, what de Blasio, what Biden, what Fauci, what Osterholm, what Newsom, what Whitmer, what they're all saying. It is better that 10 million, it is better that 20

million people suffer than 100,000 people get sick. That's amazing. When you put it in that context, it's absolutely unbelievable. That's the route that they've went. And we've done that for nothing else. Definitely when it comes to respiratory illnesses and viruses that spread, we've never, ever done that. And I think people, because we're maybe so conditioned for it because of the last 10 months of training here um this has never happened guys think about uh you know where we're at the lockdowns didn't work uh i'm sorry i'm sorry actually the lockdowns did slow the spread the javit center was never at capacity i think it's all like you know 30 the medical ship that trump brought in saw like

one person so locking everything down to slow the spread it did slow the spread and then clearly like you mentioned it wasn't going to stop people from getting sick so they all got sick again and we have soap so people didn't die well no the point the point is people didn't have soap in 1919 but right right now we locked down to slow the spread so that we wouldn't overload our hospitals that worked and now everyone's getting sick again we can't do anything about it well you can wash your hands you You can eat vitamin C. They didn't have that stuff 100 years ago. Listen, I don't know.

100 years ago has nothing to do with what's going on right now. I'm saying we did a lockdown. It slowed the spread, and now everyone's getting sick, so they're not letting the lockdown go. What slowing of the spread are we going to do right now? So right now what they're saying is with Joe Biden and Fauci and in Osterholm, nationwide lockdown, nationwide masks. And, you know, the lockdown is the real issue. I don't care about masks.

I really don't. I'll wear a mask. Whatever. It's no big deal to me. But what they're basically saying is it is better that 330 million people suffer than 300,000 people die. And there's a challenge there. I don't want anyone to die. But at a certain point when the lockdowns have done everything they can, it's time to stop the suffering.

It's not just suffering. It's destroying the world economy. It's causing starvation of hundreds of millions of people. We've got to read more Super Chats, though. Trent Lomelino says, Eric on the show is a blessing. Dude is awesome. Check his pod and his music. He doesn't stop.

There you go. I love this one. Superman, if he wasn't scared of Green Rock, says having Eric July and Luke on this show makes me so happy. And then Luke had to take off. Yeah. Bummer. You need to lay down. Yeah, he definitely did. Dan Saw F says, Hey Eric, check out The Odious. I think you might

like them. Also, Grim Salvo. Same group of people, but different styles of music. Okay. Alright, let's see what we got here. Daniel Bundrick says, if nothing worth investigating happened during this election and there's enough potential shenanigans to flip a state then i'm declaring california 2024 swing state oh there you go okay chris kara seawicks says tim do you think it's worth going to dc on the six i've never done this and i want to go i just don't

know if it's if going is actually going to do anything i don't know if anything's going to happen i'll tell you this though personally do i think it's worth going i already booked my hotel I just don't know if going is actually going to do anything. I don't know if anything's going to happen. I'll tell you this, though. Personally, do I think it's worth going? I already booked my hotel. I don't know if we're going to make it down there, though. There's a lot of variables in play. And so I'll tell you this.

I've heard enough from people where I was like, we should probably figure out a way to do it. Ian came. You got this external mixer, video mixer. This electronic gorilla. Oh, you're talking about that. There you go. We have the technology to go portable we can use four cameras um all the switcher all on demand through a laptop so this was one of the

hurdles i was like we have a desktop we could bring with us and we could set up somewhere and and then ian was like look at this thing and it's got all of the mixing you need for video and it just goes one usb into the computer super cool yeah so then i was like wow we could pull up a laptop we could totally do the show so we got all the equipment we need to do it and there's there's there's some there's there's a bunch of different concerns we got to go through to make it happen but right now i'm i'm thinking i'll be there i'll tell you you know you know the one thing that would stop me from being there one thing would stop me from being there covid no if it actually is going to turn out to be massive and like revolutionary i won't go you just got to go no beanies so people don't recognize you no no that's not the issue the issue is getting stuck

if something crazy goes down and there's 10 million people and you're like stuck in a hotel with no food oh boy all the prep so if i if i if we start getting closer to the six and some crazy stuff is going down and it looks like it's going to be 10 million people then i'm going to be like i can't but right now i'm thinking it's going to be pretty big and worth going to i don't think it's going to be this grand massive upheaval of 10 million people maybe but if i if i think it's going to get to that point where trump stays president and people occupy dc that's the line depending like what happens, because Antifa is going to be there. They've already been organizing resistance and stuff. So if it if if if, you know, look, we saw a couple hundred thousand Trump supporters last time last month or whatever.

It was like estimates between one hundred and two hundred thousand just littered across D.C. If we and that was just an event, they did. Imagine what's going to be like on the six. This is Trump's last stand. This is the last day for a constitutional challenge to the election. Antifa is going to be there. Could you imagine if even a million Trump supporters showed up? The city would just, it'd be crazy.

It was cool this last one. Did you go to the last one in D.C. by any chance? Just to recognize how powerful we are when we come together. You see all these people walking together and like, dude we're connected all right justin bowman says tim i'm a truck driver and a biden presidency has our industry worried we're already short 80 000 drivers for demand many new drivers are foreigners that use google translate if these wheels don't turn we don't earn stay safe also high lids hello no truck drivers means no food yeah simple as that that's like the veins of this country the highways and the truck driver is moving the goods it's like the blood

cells carrying the oxygen but they're carrying you know bread and milk and eggs and if they don't come you don't eat i hope everybody's been paying attention man because i'll tell you you know i used to joke about this but if if it ever came down to like an apocalyptic scenario people in new york would be eating each other. I noticed you bought more canisters of butter powder. That was weird. I don't know why they keep coming. I ordered a couple things of powdered butter because I was like, I wonder how this works.

I must have accidentally ordered more. Oh, you got it on prescription? Subscription. Oh, no. Is that what happened? No complaints. That stuff stays good for years. I gotta check that. Yeah, I was like, two things of powdered butter. I was like, how does. Yeah, I was like, what are the two things of powdered butter? There's more butter. I was like, how does that work?

I was like, no fat in there. I was thinking ahead, but it was only two. It was very out of character for you. Normally, you get like 16. No, that's you. You bought all the vinegar. All right.

Ian bought a bunch of vinegar. I'm like, what are you going to do with so much vinegar, dude? Yeah, so I'll put it this way. We're bordering on prepping, but having no idea how we're doing it, so we have a bunch of butter. Yeah, it's fun.

We got everything. Outer butter and vinegar. It's exciting. Look, where we're doing it. So we have a bunch of butter, outer butter and vinegar. And you know, I'm not, look where, where we're at. I'm not super worried that, you know,

the reason we came out to kind of the middle of nowhere is because, you know, it's hunting grounds all over the place. We got, we're, we're partly off the grid. We've got ways to maintain everything. And we got satellite internet.

So if like power lines went down or power went out, we'd be fine. The show would be rolling. No problem. Yeah. There you go. Yeah, not in a big city though.

That'd be scary. I wouldn't want to be there. All right, let's see. Daniel Maxwell says, if the states would perform a forensic audit of the machines using the election along with the signature

and address audit of all the mail-in ballots, it would address concerns about the election for most people. But they will not to protect elites. That's the craziest thing. And that's what makes people think there's actually some shenanigans going on because

the transparency is being blocked. You know what I mean? All right, let's see. Nathan B says, Tim, I plan on going to Washington. I've already looked into tickets and hotels, but I don't know anything about what's really going to happen down there. I've never been to a protest before, so it should be interesting. Hashtag Vets for Trump. I don't know what's going to happen down there i've never been to a protest before so should be interesting that's hashtag vets for trump i don't know what's gonna happen i have

no idea i'm just hearing from people who say they don't protest and they're gonna protest i'm like it's probably gonna be something spicy you know my prediction massive protest people you know stand up and they yell and they go home you know antifa fights some people the trump supporters you know fight back proud boys will be there then the, you know, fight back. Proud Boys will be there. Then the right, you know, Trump supporters and Proud Boys will go home. Antifa will go and fight cops. Yeah. After dark, it gets crazy. At least the last one didn't.

There weren't that many people. But I'll stress, I don't know. Normal's out the window, man. I know. Who knows what's going to happen? For all we know, like literally no one shows up and it's just Alex Jones by himself. And then you get to walk up and, hey, nice to meet you. I'm the only other person here, know so maybe all right let's see john

smith says hey man love your music you guys should do a trashy fir cover and dress up like rad key used to you did a sws cover so really you have no excuse that went over my head that's falling in reverse just leaving a siren so he That's what he's talking about. He's talking about middle-core bands. Or post-hardcore, I guess. Sam Meehan says, I'll take policies that ended Venezuela for $2.6 trillion. Put them. Coco Dew says,

Time for a third party. Vote them all out. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I didn't vote last time. I voted this time for Trump and the down-ticket Republicans. I probably just vote third party from now on. think a lot of people will too if there's a viable populist like moderate party of sorts i probably just vote for i have to get involved i can't stand on the sidelines anymore i'll fear you let's see drayson medics is uh tim why do you invite guests on your show and then take 60 of the time talking and voicing your

opinions which your audience is already aware of as they heard it a dozen times still love the show though i don't know because it just it's your show i guess you know it is your show no but we've we've had guests where like uh hashi when hashi was here he talked 80 90 times hashi's cool dude new york local politician challenging the lockdowns getting in trouble he's the guy they went around the cutting the locks on the parks to open them back up i figured you appreciate that yeah and they couldn't do anything about it because he was like we're going to keep doing it you know michael didion says having sars covid 2 does not mean you have covid covid is the disease not the virus there is a distinction these tests are not for COVID, but rather the SARS-CoV-2 to test for COVID. One would need other diagnostics. Interesting.

Yeah, I believe that's how most diseases work, actually. Let's see. Intolerable Act says, woohoo, I'm a single father of two kids making less than 35 a year, 35k a year. I'm about to buy six grand in BTC, REN and Graf. I left metals for crypto, better returns. I'll tell you this, man. I don't want to give anybody advice, but I'll tell you a month ago, Max Kaiser, you know that guy Max, he's been saying, buy Bitcoin like crazy. And so I was like, all right, I bought some Bitcoin. And now it's at 27, 28. And it's on track probably for 35. Some people say 700k. The way The way the U.S. dollar is going. I went to the U.S. debt clock today, and it's going up $70,000 every second.

The debt to GDP is like 129% now. In the United States. That is unbelievable. Crypto, Bitcoin is skyrocketing. It's run away. Because people don't want to have dollars anymore. I don't think there's any coming back from a 27. Now it'll be 30 trillion debt.

They're printing 2.3 more. No. It's the interest to the federal. It's the interest that's making it untenable. So if we default on the interest and just refuse to pay it back to civil disobedience, maybe it won't crash the dollar. I think that's the best case scenario either way. Even if it does crash. Check this out.

This is going to make you mad. Laura Wren says, I raised four kids with the help of EBT. I was shocked that I could buy gum, candy, soda, but not vitamins or other supplements. Now you can buy McDonald's with EBT. The food and medical industry in this country is pure evil. Man. I agree. McDonald's? Yeah.

What? Don't they put sugar in their salads and their burgers definitely the dressing our committee says tim joe rogan already did the study of what humans will and won't eat fear factor oh yeah apparently people will eat crazy stuff money yeah for money you got rogan telling you you can do it you can do anything do anything that's right port film co-op says guest sounds like a prager u muppet given a script oh we got some some words is prager u uh prager u is not ancap prager u is like the most generic conservative so whoever that guy whoever said that is a crack i'm pretty sure yeah you're like you're you're like you probably disagree with most of prager like probably 90 of what they say we talked about

like anarchy for like 30 minutes yeah yeah and that's just what prager and all those guys talk about is that anarchism that's what they're that's what they're advocating like i say that guy's smoking crack cocaine leave it leave it alone augustine uribe says i moved between three blue progressive states was homeless most of my time in each state finally i left californ left California for Texas with $200 in cash and a broken car four years ago. Now I have a five-bedroom house, two cars, a Harley Davidson, and pay all my bills. Awesome. There you go, man. Mike Heck says, finally, thank you for having Eric on, Tim.

Yo, Eric, when are you going to come out with another freestyle, brother? Soon enough. I'm dropping a free tape for y'all soon enough. Sweet. Jay Max says, I've always said three things that will almost always make you more libertarian serving in the military starting a business and having children i've got horror stories about fraud waste and abuse that would make the staunchest cfo faint governments are ineffective by nature oh i've heard stories man oh yeah absurd things bought and thrown away and just wasted money like crazy they're wasting

our money man that's the problem with it you can you can just like i think the you know people talk about taxation and theft it really comes down to what what is the money being taken for because like you said libertarians will probably agree i'll i'll you know you put the toll booth at the road i'll pay for the road we can agree on that i'll pay for it sure well when they give your money to pakistani gender programs that's like the best example of jets that cost 700 000 like they have like jet parts that cost like hundreds of thousands of dollars just because they can charge it just because it's government yeah and that's the problem the left has with the private insurance companies but what we're seeing with medical industry is this weird

mashup of public and private that turns into some weird monster that doesn't do either no and so it's like the insurance companies pay a hundred dollars for an aspirin because the system is completely broken it makes no sense no it's not capitalism the federal reserve's like a totally on board they'll print unlimited for the government if the government's like hey can you can you give us six yeah give me 6.9 back? Yeah, definitely, or whatever they are. Wow. Lambent Cantus says, My small town, 12K, has high-speed fiber optic internet, 1K up and down. It's getting crazy, man. Because the way they lay the lines,

there are some middle-of-nowhere places like Pennsylvania, like in the wilds, where you can get gigabit internet in a town of like 100 people. That's all I ask for. That's life right there. What do you got now? have i have fiber right now i'm i'm i'm out of the way but i'm not in the middle of nowhere like i want to be if i can get in the middle of nowhere with fiber like that's a dream right there you know what i was i was thinking it's like it'd be great to move to a like a small dying town because then you'd bring it back to life that's what we're talking about bringing people last year before this place yeah that was a yeah that would be we should start a town that'd be awesome not

start one but just bring a monorail well no think about this way a bunch of them you don't you don't start a town you just bring your business there because the property's cheap and there's a lot of people looking for work and it's it's lower cost of living people who need jobs you don't pay an arm and a leg like you would out of new york city but you revitalize the local economy it tracks more jobs more industry and help bring it back there you go let's find a way to do it yeah darkstow says tim that's how melbourne australia and their lockdowns bunch of indian restaurants go on tv saying they're opening at the same time and others followed wow really that happened was that recently yeah skeleton king says modern day prohibition uh forced by edict.

But instead of alcohol being illegal, it's opening businesses to survive. Eventually, people will not take it anymore. Yeah, I hear that, man. Yeah. Tashi497 says, Tim, your ability to retain information and speak so clear and fast parallels Ben

Shapiro. Any advice on how to be on that level? Read. I don't know what Ben does. Have a good memory. You know, have a good memory. You know, practice memory games. Were you going to say read? Read what?

Read a lot. Yeah, read a lot. Talk a lot. I was reading tons of crazy stuff today. I was reading about the invention of the 50 BMG just because I bought, I got Luke a 50 BMG corkscrew for Christmas. It's not a realke a 50 bmg corkscrew for christmas it's not a real bullet but it's a corkscrew for like you know opening wine bottles whatever and i figured luke likes it because luke likes guns and uh and i was just looking up the you know 50 brown

it was a browning machine gun i just read random stuff you ever count sheep no sleep at night no do you ever do like thought exercises or anything no i used to have this problem where i'd try to count sheep in the and it would just keep repeating itself i couldn't get the thoughts that continue and i just one night forced the image to jump over and continue off into the distance and it was one that night in chicago that in my bed i remember after that moment i started to gain control of my thoughts there you go that's important brandon hansen says my mom is one of those small business owners who has said enough she opened her mn restaurant minnesota restaurant the interchange

on the december on december 16th gotta cease and desist now she's being sued by the state she's not backing down no matter what she's fed up we all are shout out to lisa i'll think about this way if your business is going to go under why would you just walk away and go oh well why wouldn't you be like we're open find me i don't care the business won't exist yeah you know what i mean doesn't matter that's that's that's gotta be your route like well what you got to lose at this point are they they're not finding you right they're finding the business if the business is about to go under unless they're finding you i understand but you know if enough people do that yes you will get on the other side of it yeah period

jt says i live in ca and my mom who had cancer no covid died alone in the hospital because they wouldn't let me stay with her needless to say it felt good to sign that recall petition the other day right on man that's these these doctors couldn't imagine that man like i really couldn't i probably would have to i probably in jail for getting in fistfights with a break your way in with like, yeah, like seriously, like dead serious. My own mother. I just can't imagine. I probably would have knocked someone upside the head straight up.

The plan says, please check what capitalism means. If there is no competitive market or protections of personal property, there is no capitalism. If government takes away the right to work, there is no capitalism. It is capitalism. No more. away the right to work, there is no capitalism. It is capitalism no more, no idea what it is. Just make up a definition and just run with it is what people do. It's a classic straw man

and nobody can form an argument against something that you just pulled out of your behind. Just go that route. Alright, let's see. We'll do a couple more. Let's see what we got. Carl Flynn says, Tim tim i think you'd be interested in checking out carl casarda of the youtube channel in range tv he mostly does gun videos but he has made videos on interesting things like the red summer of 1919 he also made

internati interesting is the red summer uh the spanish flu thing no i think that's the uh no what was that before them was that the communist uh yeah russia yeah russia grayson l says small towns don't want new world comfort they're full of old world people you know what i was saying is like when people mention secession russia limbaugh was talking about you know there might be a divorce and people have brought it up these leftists go well all the red states would be a third world country you know they'll they'll be good for you then right i mean if you hate us that much yeah you keep all they keep all their money but i'm like i'm pretty sure the people who live in like you know rural nebraska or whatever aren't concerned about it they know how to chop wood they know how to hunt deer they know how to grow food and they're

probably like sure i don't care whatever yeah like what am i what am i missing out on huh because i'll tell you this when they talk about the red states getting subsidy and something's probably going to the red state cities that's exactly what they're what's happening oh that's exactly what blue areas exactly yeah man all right well it is about 10 30 so uh eric man thanks for hanging out you got a social media you want to mention or anything yeah at eric d july of course you can follow me um on twitter that's the website as well um come holla at me young ripper 59 is the is the youtube we do all our show for canon sake and like i say man this is it's been wonderful i appreciate you guys oh for sure man thanks for coming absolutely we're planning on having events

soon we've got this uh this bar if you check my instagram uh you can follow me on twitter instagram parlor at timcast but on my instagram i got videos of the space we're building skate park slash you know you know fake bar drink area and then we're gonna have live performance we got a little stage you got a little interview music yeah eric does music let's do it so we'll we're in the band let's do we're gonna do like semi-private events where it's kind of like how they would do a studio audience basically so we'll sell like 50 tickets whatever the maxes were allowed with like covet or whatever i think it's like 50 but it's perfect anyway because we don't have a real venue we just have like a space in the studio but then we'll have like first come first serve or like members only tickets so we're launching uh a

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