Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #193 - Woman BEATS Cop With Baton Over Mask "Law," People Are SNAPPING w/ Eric July
Episode Date: December 30, 2020Woman BEATS Cop With Baton Over Mask "Law," People Are SNAPPING w/ Eric July Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices...
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So I see this story.
A woman was told to wear a mask.
So she takes the baton from the sheriff.
So it's beaten the crap out of the sheriff.
And I thought to myself, man, that's really crazy, especially because we've seen a lot
of instances now of people refusing to abide by lockdown or, you know, sticking it to the
man, I guess.
There's one video where a guy parks his truck behind the health inspector and he's like,
if I can't work, you can't work either.
And the cop is like, you got to move your trucks or anything.
I'm not moving anything.
I'm desperate and I'm not doing anything.
And so we're seeing stuff like this.
So I see this story about this cop getting beaten.
I'm like, man, that's crazy.
Because it's one thing to say you're not going to wear a mask
and then everyone makes a viral video about you.
It's another thing to say you're going to keep your business open
and you get arrested.
It's another thing to be some lady going to the gas station
and beating the cop with their own baton.
Now that's a step over the line.
That's where, you know, people are starting to snap.
So we're looking up these stories.
Like, oh, let's see, you know, let's see what's, is there a bigger story here?
You just Google search it.
We got like, I think, four stories already.
Very, very similar.
Some Navy vet bashed a guy over the head with a bottle because he was told he had to wear a mask.
People aren't having it anymore.
And that's kind of freaky.
But this does tie into what we're going to see coming up on January 6th, because you
got all these people coming to D.C.
Donald Trump says have this big rally.
And you got to understand that the lockdowns are coming almost entirely from Democrats.
There definitely are Republicans who are pushing certain lockdown restrictions and
things like that.
But you got a lot of people.
They got nothing left to lose.
They've lost their business. They've lost their livelihood. Their lives are at risk.
They got free time. Just like we saw with the George Floyd riots. People had nothing to do.
They were bored. Their jobs were gone and they snapped and they went out and they smashed
everything up. Now you've got people who are being told the guy they voted for, they like,
is not going to win and they got nothing left to lose. So when we start seeing these stories about people bashing somebody with a bottle or beating
cops, I'm like, man, things are starting to get spicy.
So we'll talk about that.
Got a bunch of other stories, too.
The actual big news, I guess, is that Mitch McConnell rejected the $2,000 stimulus, proposed
his own bill that has a provision in it to repeal Section 230, which is causing a huge
debate.
A lot of Trump supporters are totally for it.
I think many people on the Internet, including most on the left and many moderate independent
types, are against it. That'll be interesting, too. And then probably the greatest and only
good thing to come out of the omnibus bill is that of all the things they snuck into this 5,500 page
bill was a provision mandating the Pentagon release their information on UFOs in 180 days.
And I'm like, I'm kind of okay with that one.
Like the rest of them we can complain about.
That one's cool.
So we're going to talk about this.
Hanging out today.
We got Eric July again.
Hey, man.
How's it going, man?
Thanks for sticking around.
Hey, man.
I'm here and I appreciate it again.
This was fun.
It was fun yesterday.
We had a great episode.
That was good.
That was good.
And we had to do it again because Luke wasn't feeling too well.
We had to bring Luke back so that we could have this bigger conversation.
Well, I'm not going to run away this time.
But me and Eric are going to, again, contest a lot of your ideas, which I'm very excited about.
No, I'm going to moderate.
ANCAP versus ANCAP.
But, yeah, I mean, we've got a lot of stuff to debate about taxation being taxed now.
Exactly.
But most importantly, sorry for walking out on you amazing human beings.
I had a migraine all day.
And then for some reason, I was at a level where I was about to puke or pass out.
And that's not good for television.
So I just kind of walked away.
What is it?
You forgot to take this.
I rather not.
You got to show everybody.
Luke didn't take his medicine.
Luke didn't take his medicine.
That's by your side of the table.
Just for the record. That's Michael Mal side of the table. Just for the record.
That's Michael Malice's who's getting a shout out every time we reference it that it's here because it's hilarious.
He gets a shout out.
Yep.
That was his trick.
He knows it's funny.
Not walking out today.
Thanks so much for having me on.
Yeah, right on.
Luke, pass me that male vitality water.
Are you going to take some?
Yeah.
No, no.
I'm going to spin it.
I'm going to spin the male vitality.
Oh, there we go. While we're at it. It's everything our it. I'm going to spin the male vitality. Oh, there we go.
While we're at it.
It's everything our show has built up to.
Spin that male vitality.
What up, Holmes?
And the gorilla.
I'm back with a better gorilla with a new and improved set piece.
Yeah.
Somehow the gorilla has become like a mascot.
It looks good in red.
It does.
It does.
We've kind of decided.
You couldn't really tell what it was in blue.
I'll show you.
It's a little amorphous. It's so cool. Oh, my goshous so i think we'll stick with red for now it's so cool eric if
you think i should have changed the color to let me know hey where's my favorite girl so i'm glad
you're back luke oh yeah i was sad when you walked out you got sick yeah are you feeling good you got
your kombucha yeah just like meditation i feel i feel like if i would pass out or puke you would
like give me a stink eye and then be like, also in the news.
We turn the camera on you.
No, we turn the camera on you.
Yeah, look at this.
And just have the pass out camera.
And watch the views that skyrocket.
Yeah.
But yes, I'm also extremely grateful for being healthy.
I woke up this morning and I felt amazing.
And again, a lot of people take their health for granted.
Don't.
Seriously, I'm extremely happy to be healthy and cognitive
and not in pain and suffering. So seriously, don't take advantage of it. Appreciate the health that
you have. You know what the easiest way to understand that sentiment is? It's like,
you never think about breathing out of both nostrils until your nose gets stuffed. And then
you can't remember what it was like. You're like, man, I remember what I can't... I didn't even
notice breathing out of both nostrils. Now my nose is is all stuffed i'm sick and it's hard to breathe yeah a lot of
us you know don't don't take it seriously how amazing it is to be healthy there's so many of
us that are not healthy seriously appreciate it and you gotta keep working and striving to be
your best all the time now especially in the sick and twisted world with so much crap shoved down
your mouth hole figuratively and literally that you. Did you watch the show yesterday?
No.
Dude, we talked about busting up the Federal Reserve.
Yeah, man.
Get it on.
I like that topic.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Lydia, she's producing.
I am over in the corner pushing buttons rapidly.
Well, let's talk about this crazy story, man.
Check this out.
This is from the Daily Mail.
Actually, hold on.
I'm sorry.
I can't believe I just did that.
Yeah, man.
What the hell?
Smash the like button.
Subscribe. Hit the notification bell. Okay. Where was I? Daily Mail. Actually, hold on. I'm sorry. I can't believe I just did that. Yeah, man, what the hell? Smash the like button, subscribe,
hit the notification bell.
Okay, where was I?
Dailymail.com.
A moment woman beats sheriff's deputy
with her own baton
after being told
she couldn't enter a gas station
without a mask.
They say St. Louis County Sheriff's Deputy 59
was working security
at a Shell gas station
late on Christmas Day
when she was attacked
by a maskless customer.
I like how maskless is now like an identifier because everybody's wearing masks.
If you're not, that's how they identify you.
Maskless.
Officials say the deputy told the female suspect to put on a mask, which prompted her to attack
the officer with her fists in a parking lot.
Assault was captured on cell phone video shot by bystanders.
Suspect managed to grab deputy's baton and strike her in the head, causing a concussion.
Deputy pursued her attacker
and fought back before the woman
fled the scene. That's crazy.
I don't know if they made an arrest.
Now, that deputy, you hear the story and you imagine
it's some, like, strapping young male cop.
No, it was a lady and it was a 59-year-old
woman. She was working security at the gas station.
When the woman entered the store without a face
covering, you can see some of the clips
there, and then just
pulls her out of her car, I guess. The victim
stated the suspect became belligerent
when the victim informed the suspect
that the suspect should not enter the business without a mask,
according to the police.
Surveillance video from inside the store
shows the suspect putting on a mask, then
seemingly exchanging some words with the deputy
standing by the door. This is weird.
It's a weird story.
I wonder if this actually has anything to do with masks and more people just being, you know, crazy.
But then we've got another story.
Let me see if this is it.
Yeah.
Bar attack.
Suspect captured.
Charged with assault.
This is from Christmas Eve.
They say the man accused of hitting a Houston bar employee in the head with a glass has been arrested.
Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo tweeted Thursday.
The suspect has been apprehended and charged with assault.
Now they say this is a Navy veteran who did this.
He was charged with assault and it started.
He was the guy who got attacked and bashed over the glass, got 10 stitches.
The conflict began when the customer did not want to wear a mask.
We got a bunch of stories about this. Look at this man arrested for shooting at gas station after being told to wear a mask.
This is from only a couple days ago.
I just did a Google search and all these stories started popping up.
And then if I just show you Google, look at this.
You got story about like, well, this is different.
Airline kicks off a family because a toddler wouldn't wear a mask.
Doctor's license suspended for refusing to wear a mask.
Oregon doctor refuses to wear a mask.
Man arrested for refusing to wear a mask on a flight refuses to wear a mask. Man arrested for refusing to wear a mask
on a flight from Salt Lake City.
What's this one?
Still refusing to wear a mask.
Bill Nye would like to have a word with you.
Whoa.
I don't want to get on Bill Nye's bad side,
so you tell me to wear a mask, Bill,
and we're all good.
Well, from the first video,
it looked like both of the ladies
were in the same weight class,
and that was a world star-esque video. Yeah, but it a world like world star there was tasers there was batons the weight class was the weight class was obese uh just
for everyone out there just for the record and uh yeah and i think people have had enough i mean
there's more and more instances of individuals getting into physical confrontations because of
the mask issue just even this morning there was a confrontations because of the mask issue.
Just even this morning, there was a video going around of a disabled U.S. Army veteran getting
arrested, getting manhandled by a bunch of police officers because he allegedly wouldn't wear a mask
inside of a mall. So we're seeing a lot of these incidences, and I think we're going to see more
of them. And it's really a pity because a lot of individuals are forced to do this by their states because
the state mandates that if you want to have a business, you're going to force everyone
to wear a mask.
In the United Kingdom, they're mandating bar owners to stop people from singing.
Now, I don't know about you.
I wouldn't want to be a bar owner trying to tell drunk British people not to sing because
that's a recipe for disaster, especially at a bar, especially how crazy people get.
But we have to remember all of this conflict, all of this infighting,
a lot of the fights that start with masks all revolve around government mandates and orders
and executive orders with government officials, not laws, government officials saying,
you better tell everyone to wear a mask inside of your bodega. Are you going to lose your business license?
Are you going to lose your liquor license?
Are you going to lose whatever license we give you?
And you're going to stop being able to provide for yourself because of this imaginary made up little rule that we just made up on the spot.
You know what?
This this really highlights a funny phenomenon that's going on right now.
You got a lot of young people who, you know, 10 years ago weren't involved in politics and are now in politics.
And they're very much like a lot of Democrats politically, like a lot of these younger YouTubers and commentators, 10 years ago weren't involved in politics and are now in politics. And they're very much like aligned with Democrats politically, like a lot of these younger
YouTubers and commentators, some of whom we've had here, they're younger guys. And they're like,
there seems to be due to this inexperience, a lack of understanding of what libertarian means,
the fact that there's left and right libertarians, and that for the most part, they're all very
critical of policing and government, regardless of whether you're left or right. And so there was a funny post on, it's called Leopards Ate My Face. It's
a subreddit where they basically talk about, it's like hypocrisy. It's like somebody who advocates
for something, then becoming a victim of something. So an anti-vaxxer saying, oh no, I got sick. If
only there was something I could, you know, could have done. But there was a post from r slash
libertarian breaking down what they don't like about cops and policing, like right now when it
pertains to COVID. And they were like, ha ha, they're reaping what they have't like about cops and policing, like right now when it pertains to COVID.
And they were like, haha, they're reaping what they have sown. And then a bunch of people in
the comments were like, I'm pretty sure libertarians don't like cops. Like, I'm not sure
like what you think is going on. They've always been criticizing, you know, like policing in this
fashion. What I find really funny about all this is I posted a comment when there's that video of
the dude who parks his truck behind the healthcare worker. And I posted a comment when there's that video of the dude who parks his truck behind the health care worker. And I posted a video saying basically F the cops who are enforcing
this. When Antifa was destroying businesses, I defended the cops who are protecting those
businesses. Now the cops are the ones destroying these businesses and they're not doing it under
any constitutional law, like are any constitutional authority or statutory law, literally just some
edict, some health care guys like shut them down. cop goes you got it so i criticize it and i see these people who clearly
have no political experience have not been involved before they're like now all of a sudden these
people on the right are are angry at cops and i'm like bro i don't think you know who i am
like i i'll criticize people who are violating the rights of individuals but we're seeing from this
i think it is fair to say there's a lot of conservatives who are now waking up to the fact. Absolutely. These cops, they're going to shut you
down. And I say this out of experience, obviously doing what I do over at the Blaze and having so
many conversations with these guys. A lot of folks' positions are changing, much like it is
with the healthcare industry and nurses and stuff. You're starting to see people on that side start
to alter their position on
on cops, which they should.
I mean, if you extended what they actually claim to believe with this whole limited form
of government and all those sorts of things to the logical conclusion, then that's exactly
what they would be.
I mean, who is the one that that that enforces all of these laws that you may have an issue
with?
I always tell them about what it'd be be taxation and all these other sorts of things that they will pin on the bernie sanders of the world the aocs of the
world you can recognize that they aren't very smart people but it also isn't them that goes
out and enforces these laws the teeth of the state is all the police officers and this is why we call
them that it's just gums at that point it's just they just like we see that as an example right here with the executive order where they could just pull it
out of their behind if the cops said what you have seen in some local levels not most places
but some instances but if the cops just said no then that would be it it would be nothing to
discuss there would be nothing this is why i like, this is an easy thing. But unfortunately,
it takes a lot of folks that have, you know, back to blue types, all of them to actually have to say
the people that we have been protecting are the folks that are responsible for the destruction.
It's not just that, Eric. When we talk about this protection, we really have to look at it from
all the kind of events that have been unfolding during the summer. Right now, we have cops that are acting like tough guys
roughing up a disabled U.S. Army veteran.
Where were they when Black Lives Matter was rioting,
breaking, looting, and destroying people's personal businesses?
They were there twiddling their thumbs, watching, standing by.
Fox News had it in New York City where people were just brazenly
breaking into every store that they wanted.
Police officers on the same block were just literally standing there kicking rocks, not
doing nothing.
So on the backdrop of that, are they really protecting us or are they really pushing a
political agenda on all of us?
You know what?
I got no problem if the cops aren't going to protect New York City from itself.
I mean, my thing is about, you know, I get it.
I, obviously, I'm an advocate, huge advocate of private property rights.
And it's one thing for them.
And this is why I've always said, like, look, I don't want a new law.
I don't want to sit up here and lecture the cops about what they should and shouldn't do.
I don't care for that.
How about this?
Allow free people to put that power more so back in their own hands
so why can't they protect their own business essentially illegal there right so if they we
saw that minneapolis pawn shop owner guy comes and loots his store he airs his i almost said
said something but he aired him out he aired him out he just he's the one that goes to jail
right for him defending because
out there they have this sort of duty to retreat law out there so you can't like i could in texas
if you bust into my store i could shoot you where in some places you cannot do that so that's what
what makes it a free-for-all that way and unfortunately people think the answer is okay
we just need to send cops to go do this this and this and i'm like it's less about
that and more about people being free to let's say protect themselves and their own property if they
had that freedom they'd be more likely to exercise like also in st louis with that couple that walked
out yeah firearms they're the ones that went to jail they're the ones that were prosecuted cops
seized their guns yes they were on their own property people came in and they said get out
the cops
took the guns from them they got arrested yeah new york city you can't even have pepper spray
you can't even legally own pepper spray and then they're going to tell you that the police
officers are protecting and serving you i'll say this i do think the laws are completely
overbearing in places like new york but one of the big problems is density so you know i'm driving
you know around the middle of nowhere and I'm
wondering why it is like, there's no cops anywhere in these areas. You know, I was talking to
somebody who mentioned in, in some of these places, let's say like West Virginia, cause we've
been looking at property in West Virginia. So we've been, you know, kind of driving around a
little bit. They're like, there's no cops, none. And I'm like, then there's no, why, where's the
crime at? Doesn't somebody like break on your property? And they're like, Oh, look, a shot.
Everybody knows it. So you've got all of these houses in this neighborhood and i'm like no crime no crime why
not well if anyone goes anywhere near my house i get shot everybody knows it you want to walk on
someone's property you knock on the door politely and they'll come and answer the door with their
shotgun if you break out of their property start going through their garage you're gonna get shot
simple as that but but you know in new york city i guess the problem is density everybody's stacked
on top of each other like how would that work if someone broke into your apartment and you shot them and then
bolts are going through apartments and stuff like that?
Yeah.
I mean, obviously, that's the training portion.
And obviously, there's a lot of libertarians out there trying to get people.
You only sell hollow points in New York City.
Exactly.
Right, right.
So you're not shooting 5.56, just shooting through a wall.
No, no.
But there you go.
You just said gun control.
No.
You only sell...
It's called frangible, right?
I'm trying to get me in a corner here.
I'm being facetious.
I'm being facetious.
But no, but for real,
if you're out in the middle of nowhere,
you can have an AR-15,
and that might make sense.
You got a massive property.
Let's say you live on 50 acres,
a small house,
and you see someone going through your barn or whatever.
It might make sense to have a rifle you can use from far away so you don't have to encounter whoever this person is.
They might be armed.
It might be dangerous.
What if you get reports that there's armed groups going around raiding, looting places?
You want a gun that's going to have decent range to keep you safe, right?
Or a wild animal.
Or a bear or something, right?
But if you're in a small apartment in New York City, you're in a concrete box stacked on top of each other.
If you have an AR or, you know, six or whatever that's gonna that's gonna go through
some walls you know what i mean no i mean again as it goes back to the training the training aspect
which is more that's just as important we talk about gun control and all of that sort of thing
like look i want people to get trained on how to use their their weaponry i want people to be able to exercise uh that particular
right de-escalation is a big thing that i talk a lot about but unfortunately when it comes to
instances like new york and those cities definitely those inner cities they have been it is literally
illegal for them to defend themselves like it's illegal for them to do that's why i think it
should be illegal in new york city for police officers to have automatic weapons in new york city they have this hit squad
i forgot their exact name or their or their kind of tag or origin line but they have these officers
that look like ninja turtles and they walk around with automatic machine guns in new york city what
kind of machine guns you know um i i forgot exactly the exact make and model like actual
machine guns just like select fire full automatic uh assault not assault rifles i thought it's the
made-up no no no assault rifles are legit assault weapon is the main yeah yeah yeah uh you know long
barrel rifles that are fully automatic and i'm like that's the like stupidest weapon you could
have in time square with such a large crowd especially if you're going to have a lot
of innocent bystanders all around you. And if you look at many of the police shootings in New York
City, even with their handguns, they automatically shoot so many times. They're so untrained that a
lot of times innocent bystanders are hit. So here we go. If you're going to ban guns,
you're banning guns, not for certain people. If New York City says you can't have these guns,
then nobody can have them, not even the cops.
And that's that's why. But that's why that would never be a thing, because that's not what this is about.
They ultimately want that one institution, even the leftists who advocate for gun control.
I don't think they understand to the extent of what it is that they're advocating.
Right. It's like I don't want these guns to be on the street.
And that's that's where the argument is. This is like, i don't want you to have that gun and they walk away but who's the one
that's going to enforce it what type of guns do do they have what if i decide that okay this isn't
up for grabs here what do you want them to do to me well when they start answering those questions
well they that institution should have better weapons than you that institution should be able
to kill you in the event that you,
you defend themselves.
So that's the thing.
Like I,
why I don't take like leftists,
a lot of mainstream leftists seriously when they talk about police brutality
or the,
or these sorts of concepts of gun control and all of that,
because at the end of the day,
they would send that same institution to go whoop up on someone in the event they needed to take
away their gun well they have the illusion that government is there to protect and serve them
it's not yeah sorry so i'm curious man i wonder if all of this covet stuff is going to make
everybody a lot more right wing well like but just to give you an example like people are forced to
leave cities right there's this viral post where somebody was like i don't want to go back to
normal i don't want the way normal was standing shoulder to shoulder with people in a subway cart,
breathing their, their spit and their sweat. I don't want to walk crowded on sidewalks,
unable to even like waiting in line to get a sandwich. I don't want to go back to normal.
Normal was awful. And they said, maybe I should move to the suburbs. Maybe people are now realizing
that being crammed in a, in a concrete cubicle in a city that smells like sour milk
stacked on top of each other isn't so fun.
And COVID's making everybody kind of spread out and move to other areas.
And that can be a good thing in the long run, because they're going to start having to do
hard work to survive.
And they're going to understand the value of what they've produced.
Well, whenever we have the changing of the guard, especially with US presidents, whenever
it's a Republican president, usually the liberals kind of mobilize themselves and start getting activated. We're going to see
something very similar with Biden and a lot of conservatives and a lot of people leaning
towards conservatives because Biden has that power. He has already promised 100 days of masks
during his first days in office. And of course, he also appointed Dr. Fauci to a very prominent
position with his
administration dr fauci by the way just came out moments ago and said put aside the nonsense of
making masks be a political statement or not we know it works and it's so far as the evidence
they keep they keep saying look i got no problem wearing a mask it's meaningless to me okay it's
it's annoying sometimes i go to the store i'll'll put it on. How long am I really wearing it? For 10, 15 minutes?
I leave, I take it off. The issue is we've been wearing masks. Doing another mask mandate is not
going to change anything. And they keep saying, well, this would all be over if people would just
wear masks. We've been wearing masks. There are some instances where people don't wear it.
But what does that matter? Y'all went out and were dancing around for biden taking your mask off and drinking champagne it's don't blame these
people it's not only that tim it's the same people like dr fauci that were telling you
not to wear a mask because it doesn't help you the cdc head don't wear a mask the same dr fauci
that was lying to you about herd immunity and all these other issues that was financing the gain of
function research in Wuhan. Hold on, hold on. Fauci's lying now. Yeah, he's lying now. He used
to say 60 to 70 percent herd immunity in order for us to be back to normal. Now he's saying,
oh, I don't really mean that. I think people are ready to hear the truth. 75 to 85 percent.
But hold on. The World Health Organization says 60 to 70. So which is it? Who's lying?
Well, YouTube says we have to abide by the World Health Organization guidelines. That means Fauci
is a liar. Oh, yeah. I don't care how many times Brad Pitt played him. I'm not going to believe
him. Sorry. Sorry. No, but with Fauci, I mean, he's moved the goalposts a million times. And I
just don't understand why people still are listening to this man.
Tribalism.
Because it's not like he's been correct necessarily on anything it is that we do,
but we hold this guy up to the—I'm also worshiping him.
I don't, but a lot of these guys worship him at the altar,
and we listen to everything it is that he's supposed to say,
never mind the fact that he's been virtually wrong.
I don't know how many times.
There's a viral video showing everything he's said that's been contradicted like i don't know how many times there's a viral video
showing everything he said that's been contradicted and i'll tell you what it is on the left they say
he's this great and honorable you know genius who's guiding us to safety and they trust him
many people on the right because i don't want i don't think the right for the most part is a
monolith in this regard they say that he's you know crooked corrupt he's profiting and all that
hold on everybody needs to chill fauci i'll tell you exactly what he does because i read the news non-stop all day
every day he waits two days and then repeats whatever he heard from the mainstream media
that's why he's behind the times so i see these interviews where he's like you don't need a mask
you know you don't know you're going around wearing this and i'm like he's just repeating
the talking point that came out in the new york times two days ago and then as soon as the mask
thing is like oh actually we should wear masks.
Then two days after the story breaks and we're given the guidelines, he goes, well, you really
should wear them.
Is that it?
You just wait for the news to feel safe about what your opinion is, and then you give your
opinion?
That's not really an expert giving us an expert opinion.
No.
He's just repeating the news.
Well, Dr. Fauci has been around for a very long time.
He's been advising many presidents.
And I think it's very important to also note that he was the individual funding and backing the level four Wuhan laboratory when it came to risky coronavirus research, specifically gain of function research, trying to figure out how to make a deadly bat coronavirus infect human beings.
That's what he was doing months before of course the main
coronavirus that was actually new york i think new york post that was newsweek as well newsweek
yeah newsweek newsweek reported that i said that was back back in april yep that came out uh the
funding stopped in 2019 and he funded them to the tune of 7.4 million dollars you know it's crazy
it was washington post that actually ran the the op ed asking the question about the origins of the virus in this lab. It was the Washington Post. And I reported
on it. And they tried claiming that I was pushing conspiracies. And I was like, oh, no, no, I was
criticized. Trust me. I was saying they're crazy. Of course, they're crazy. I'm the smart one telling
the Washington Post that I'm saying they're fake news, right? They're allowed to report it. And if
I say that, they say I'm wrong. Trump sees a report from TechCrunch on Z-Pak and hydroxychloroquine.
And he repeats it.
He says, oh, I saw this story.
You know, it looks promising.
And then they're like, oh, Trump's crazy.
He's lying.
He's wrong.
And I'm like, he's just telling you what he saw on the news, man.
But listen, listen, we got all of these people snapping off.
They're getting sick and tired of lockdowns.
Joe Biden's saying the lockdown's not going to stop.
Well, I'm sorry. He said, we lockdowns not going to stop. He's well,
I'm sorry. He said we're going to listen to the science and his science advisor says,
what do you say, six months? Then we got Bill Gates and Fauci saying 2022. Now we got this from The Guardian. The World Health Organization warns COVID-19 pandemic is not necessarily
the big one. Experts tell end of year media briefing that virus is likely to become endemic and the world will have to learn to live with it.
Now, does that mean that we're all going to chill out, reduce the lockdowns, take some precautions, maybe get a vaccine?
Or does it mean we're locked down forever? I think it's locked down forever.
I think, well, no, I mean, they've shown that it will not when I say it works, not that it actually helps in mitigating whatever spread it works is in the fact that they can control you.
They know that they can do that. That's a thing that they can do.
They can shut everything down and do whatever it is that they want.
And that's what they were allowed to do.
So I think that is what people are going to see as a new normal, because unfortunately, 10, even a decade ago, it's unreal.
Could you just imagine someone being like, yeah, there's going to be this virus that it's like a ninety nine point nine percent survival rate.
And we're going to shut not just this country down, but multiple countries.
Could you imagine shut down the small businesses and allow the big corporate buddies?
Right. Well, that will transfer. And you can still go out and dance for biden yeah most well and you can of course protest
for black lives if that's your that's your thing as well that's that's also on the table but no
like they recognize that it works and the people that are in control though for whatever reason
the people that we listen to whether they're health expert or not i mean bill gates i mean
i'm always seeing him on tv lecturing lecturing us about this issue as well but that's what it is that they won this is why i say like civil disobedience man is
like i know i got called a conspiracy theorist very early on in this pandemic when i talked
about like dude if you idiots think that it's just going to be two weeks i'm sorry
we know that there's no such thing as a temporary government program. They're going to kick the can down the road again, and they still didn't listen.
I got to stop you, Eric, and this misinformation.
Or I shouldn't say misinformation.
I should say, you know, how dare you criticize Bill Gates?
It is a longstanding tradition in this country to turn to software developers
for their expertise in epidemiology.
It's true.
Now, Bill Gates, who's more qualified than to talk about a virus
than a guy who made a bunch of computer programs?
There's viruses on computers.
Different kind of virus.
Virus, same word, right?
Same word, same thing.
I wonder how many people who hate me
are going to take that out of context.
Look how dumb Tim is.
Anyway, look, here's the main point with the story, though.
They're just saying it's going to get worse, right?
You guys remember that V for Vendetta scene where the chancellor is like, I want them to know why they need us.
And then it shows all the news clips playing.
And there's like the guy in the bar and he's watching the story.
And he goes, do you believe this bollocks?
And like people are shaking their head at it.
So I see these stories where they're like, COVID will keep mutating.
It will only get worse.
And we don't know if the vaccine is going to help.
And now we got we got a couple of stories I want to show you to exemplify this.
The first one is this one from The New York Times.
Small number of COVID patients develop severe psychotic symptoms.
Most had no history of mental illness and became psychotic weeks after contracting the virus
cases are expected to remain rare but are being reported worldwide all right there's one more
story i got to show you but i got a question for this when those people got bell's palsy
they said oh but only a few people got bell's palsy from the vaccine it's not a big deal
so a couple people get psychotic symptoms and they think it's it's you know major new york
times published a story boom breaking i see the story and at this point i'm just like are you kidding me dude they're
saying covid causes blood clots your your feet scab up you know you can't breathe forever
infertility your heart stops and you go psychotic it does all these things calm down man if that's
true then we're in serious trouble right but but to be fair okay maybe it is true that's why they're
all freaking out okay but it kind of does feel like they're just inundating with this stuff. And it's exemplified by this next story
from ABC News. Nurse tests positive for COVID-19 shortly after getting vaccinated. You mean to tell
me they get the vaccine and then eight days later they get sick and they say the scenario isn't
unexpected. Here's how it could have happened now maybe they
already had the virus before getting the vaccine but i'll tell you what this story is more fear
i'm sorry the vaccine that why is abc news telling us the vaccine there are they're putting out the
story that questions whether the vaccine is going to work they want us terrified so that we just
just give in and say do whatever whatever you want, government, shut everything down forever, and let people just wallow in it.
That's exactly what they want.
But, I mean, look, this is why it was so important that no matter where you were at on this issue,
I mean, I understand there was a lot of people that were freaking out early on.
Like, you didn't know much about the virus.
Okay, let's just say for the sake of conversation, though the numbers were out coming out of south korea and even china they said the same thing uh believe them or not they they actually said that's the same thing as far
as who it impacted how deadly it actually it actually was but that's why it was so important
there to say no like you had to do it then because if you didn't do it then you showed them you
showed the state you showed the uh whether it be local governments the governors the every congresswoman and man you showed them that that's all that it take takes
is to scare you that's all when do they report good news wouldn't it be fantastic news for them
to say yeah not the vast and when i say vast majority of people that catch this like it's
not even close like the vast majority majority that catch this will never have
to go to the hospital and they will never get severely sick. That's not my opinion. Their own
data says that. Most importantly, you brought up a very important point before saying that there's
too many things going for the elites for them to stop this. They're benefiting off of this too
much. And then also, when you look at V for vendetta it is eerily eerily very similar to
what's happening right now and just to remind you in v for vendetta uh it's where the government
created a virus and used it to seize power over its people and there was one incident of police
brutality that sparked a national protest and led a larger revolt against the government
we're not there yet yeah that's That's what's freaky. Yeah.
What happens on January 6th? I'll,
we'll,
we'll talk about this in greater detail.
Like,
I don't want to do all the conversation,
but let me just say,
man,
what happens on January 5th when the Democrats win in Georgia,
assuming they do.
And then all these Trump supporters here,
the Democrats now control everything and they're in DC and they're angry.
They got nothing to lose.
They're desperate.
Their property's gone.
Their businesses are gone. Their businesses are gone.
Their savings is gone.
I'll tell you this, man.
It's all tied together.
It's just like V for Vendetta where he says, I could see it all tied together like, you
know, web or whatever.
You've got people.
I remember watching a video.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me slow down.
I went to a bunch of Trump rallies, 2015, 2016.
And I met a bunch of people who were voting for Trump.
Some of them were Bernie Sanders supporters.
When the Democrats gave it to Hillary, took it from Bernie, some of them went to Trump. And they said, because Bernie and Trump were the only ones talking about the trade agreements
and bringing back these jobs. I remember talking to one dude who was probably like early fifties.
And he was saying, you know, this was in Janesville, Wisconsin. And he was talking about
how his job was gone, gone overseas. And Trump's talking about bringing these factories back and bringing back, you know, his livelihood, his town, and that's what he's voting for.
And then I remember seeing a video from a couple of years, like a year and a half or so into
Trump's presidency. It was a dude crying. It was like a middle-aged guy crying, saying before Trump,
I lost my job. My savings has completely diminished. My, my, the college fund for my
kids was, was, we were eating into it.
And I knew that not only was I on the verge of not giving my kids a future, we were on
the verge of homelessness until Trump came in and started putting in these rules, these
tariffs, negotiating these trade agreements.
And then my companies, these companies start coming back to my area.
He's like, now I'm working again.
Now I'm saving again.
Now I know that I have my safety net back.
And it's thanks to Donald Trump. And the guy was in tears, not bawling his out like crying,
but he was like, you know, his tears coming on his face. He was like, thank you, Donald Trump.
You've saved my life. I can't believe it. I imagine that video. And I've talked about that
one so many times over the past several years as one guy having his life turned around or the people
in Michigan, when the car factory started coming back and reinvesting in the Detroit area.
Now those people are being told it's all being
taken away from you. Remember the episode of South Park where Cartman gets a million dollars?
You ever see that one? He gets a million dollars and he buys a theme park with it. And then Kyle
is all like, you know, why? It's not fair. God, why would you give Cartman the worst person in
the world a million dollars? But then Cartman loses the million dollars and he's miserable
and he's crying and he's screaming. I'm not trying to equate the hardworking people there,
Cartman. Don't get me wrong.
I'm just saying, you have people who are desperate
and Donald Trump comes in and in 2019,
we get the best economy of our lives.
So says Jim Cramer, if you take his word for it.
These people are getting their jobs back.
They're getting back on track.
Then COVID hits.
The Democrat governors destroy everything,
shut it all down, take away your job,
take away your property, your chance at life.
And now you're going back, backwards. Now we got CNBC story says they interviewed 100 investors
like wealth management funds. Two thirds believe under Biden, the economy is going to tank or it's
going to start going down. It's going to get bad. Now these people are watching everything being
stripped away. Are they going to show up in D.C. and are they going to be really, really angry? Kind of think so. I mean, it can go either way, but until people,
I don't see this issue being resolved until people really understand what the
hell is going on. You know, it's, it's not just, you know, I get it.
He thought Trump was the nuke in the system.
I'd never assumed that never thought that he was never supported him.
I mean, I can say that for any politician for that matter. But the idea that these institutions
continue to grow in power, and that includes Trump, you know, with his executive orders,
that's going to set the scene up, precedent being set for Joe Biden to come and basically do the
same thing, just may not be working out to these people's benefit.
So this is why I if it keeps going that route, the the most peaceful way is to me a separation like this.
This idea that we all have to share this one government, though we hate each other to this point, makes no sense whatsoever.
This is why they're control
freaks they're control freaks it's like it's not about uh people being free i don't care what
dumb crap they throw out they're acting as if they give give a crap about someone being
free uh in liberty and all these concepts no matter what side of the political spectrum that
they claim to be on the issue here is that these folks have this power right there's
this territorial monopoly right on use of force violence and ultimate decision making and they say
we want that and we want to implement that we want to utilize that to implement these crazy
things that you see going on shutting folks down doing whatever it is and it's always claiming to
be benefiting the people that are around them. This is why I
say at some point, maybe this isn't working. And that doesn't mean even once we split, we can't
have a deal that says, okay, you got my back, I got yours, but we're not sharing a government.
It makes no sense for us to share a government. Well, weeks ago, I was talking about this and
talking about a peaceful divorce and people were like, you're crazy. Now I see more and more people
talking about it because when you look at the government, it really looks like there's elements
that are trying to take away people's ability to fend for themselves, especially with the latest
news from the IRS today that is planning a 50% increase in audits of small businesses.
Small businesses.
Small businesses, yes. The IRS is literally hiring additional staff right now
to conduct 50% more audits on small businesses,
literally wiping out anyone who survived and was left over.
That's unbelievable.
Again, meanwhile, Amazon, Walmart allowed to be open.
They barely pay any taxes themselves.
How many audits do they do per year on small businesses?
I got to look at the, I don't know.
Because I think the important question is,
what if they only do 10 audits? they do per year on small i gotta look at the i don't know because i think the important question is if what if they only do 10 audits i highly i'm just i'm just saying what if what if out of out of you know we got three we got 100 we got what 225 working people in this
country how many of them own small businesses it's an important question to ask how many audits do
they do because 50 that's a percentage either way either way i i i think it's well yeah i mean the
problem is it's like they're going after the little guy i don't want to defend i know i know the idea is obviously that they're
going after the little guy after the little guys that have been utterly destroyed this this past
year that's what they've been doing so i get it i totally understand why someone would you know
look at that and i was i hate the irs and look at that. And be like, hey, man, what are y'all doing? But no, there's something wrong with this.
And the minute I can get Americans to understand that, the better off we're going to be.
But a lot of them are control freaks.
A lot of them just want, it's not about liberty.
It's about more so control.
So I want to be able to force that person on the other side of the aisle to do what
I want them to do.
And they can't see a world where it's like, okay, why don't you go do that?
And I'm just going to go do that.
That sounds crazy.
This is the thing, right?
You got states like Wyoming.
That's the most Trump state in the country.
Granted, they only have like 550 million people.
550,000 people, not million, in the state.
That'd be a massive state, by the way.
No, no, no. 550,000 people in that state million, in the state. That'd be a massive state, by the way. No, no, 550,000 people in that state.
So it's not the biggest.
It's the most Trump support of any state.
And then I think West Virginia.
It doesn't make sense that they're going to pass.
You know, Joe Biden wants to ban all online sales of ammo, of ammo accessories and guns.
I'm like, well, that might make sense for New York.
We talked about it.
You know, what do you do if someone's breaking into your little concrete cubicle that smells like sour milk? Maybe it doesn't make sense to fire 5.56, which might go
through the wall. But people might do it if they just have it. So then there's questions about
density. But if you're in West Virginia, if you're in Wyoming, it definitely makes sense to have an
AR-15 when you're dealing with animals. In fact, I don't even know, depending on which AR you're
using, what kind of ammo can use. You might not even be able to actually stop a large
bear or some animal that's attacking your home.
You might need some serious firepower for that.
So in New York, they're like these politicians say we need to ban all these guns.
How stupid must you be to have like a 458, you know, SOCOM or 450 Bushmaster or something
in New York City?
And then somebody who's in the middle of the wilderness is like, are you nuts?
I definitely need that stopping power.
And that's why is that law going to affect them? Right. But
that and that's the problem. Like, why do we have this setup where everybody can pack up,
whether it be in Washington or wherever they're at, and they can vote in laws or rather legislation
that can impact people in Wyoming? That doesn't make sense. That doesn't make any sort of sense
when you break it down like that. But we just for the longest have accepted it like that's what it is i think right
now what we're seeing is how much of a problem it actually is when you get people that are ruled
over by folks that they hate so that like we saw that definitely over the last four years how the
leftists just went utterly insane because the guy never mind he's actually probably more like them
than any Republican president.
Right, right, right.
They don't even understand that.
That's why they hate him.
Maybe they see an image of themselves, right, coming into fruition.
But no, that's the problem.
And I think that we have to realistically talk about that as a legitimate solution.
Like, why does it have to be that we all share this particular government? And it's a lot easier. We accept the idea that it's a lot easier for Americans to fight the federal government as opposed to, let's say, the that we all have to share this government just like because we don't yeah i'll just put i'll put it this way right there's
there's definitely too much federalization happening because we could have one federal
government so long as the states had you know more guarantees and more protections the problem is
the battle is increasingly over the national control the democratic Democrats, nobody cares about their local politicians.
Their city falls to crap.
And so they talk about voting for someone for Congress.
And I'm like, but Congress is federal voting, not local.
You want someone to clean up your state, vote for your state representatives.
You want better representation where you live and you got to vote locally.
And that's why I think that the complete removal of that would have people focusing,
like people would be more narrowly focused on what's around
them as opposed to acting like bernie sanders is going to save their lives but that's how it used
to be it used to be that the president was chosen for the most part this is a figurehead well the
legislature of the states ultimately you know what we're deciding who was going to be the elector
for the state and that the senators were
voted on by, I believe it was the legislature. It was it was it was appointment. Essentially,
they started changing these rules to make it more about popular vote, popular vote to make America
more of one federalized nation than individual states. It doesn't work in the long run and it
doesn't work in Europe either. The crazy thing is we've been a country for a lot longer than the
European Union's been around. But one of the biggest problems, because I've been all over Europe and I hear from a lot
of people in Spain. I've been to Spain, I've been to Germany, I've been to Netherlands, I've been to
the UK, I've been to France. They tell me Greece, one of the challenges, I was in Greece and I was
asking this dude, he was an Uber driver, and he was talking about how the economy is really,
really bad. It's really hard to make any money. And I was like, but can't you just move to like
London? And he goes, I'm Greek. I don't want to make any money. And I was like, but can't you just move to like London?
And he goes, I'm Greek.
I don't want to move to London.
And I was like, but it's the EU, you know, you could go and the jobs are better.
And they're like, no, I'm Greek, man.
I'm not British.
They don't view themselves the same way.
They don't want to live under the same rules.
They want to eat the same food.
They're very different people.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
No, for sure.
Right.
Right.
But that's the.
But just to finish my point.
Right, right, right.
In the US, it's very, very similar.
Yeah.
People in West Virginia want to go hunting with their gigantic different place for i know
you can say this because you've traveled and i know you especially luke we can all say this for
those of us that travel you can be in even certain parts of a state and it's like night and day like
i i lived in corpus christi corpus christi is nothing like dallas fort worth
for those of you for those of you that don't know and unfortunately because of this hyper emphasis
on like uh they talk about this diversity thing right and it has nothing to do with thought or
anything like that what they really want is this different colors and different genders of people
saying the same thing yes right That's exactly what they want.
But what I where I've been, I've just gotten me in trouble a lot.
Like I embrace those differences.
There's nothing wrong with the fact that people in that on that side of the country,
they just act different.
They're culturally different.
They're what they what they value is a little different.
So, again, why is it that we're trying to do this one?
That was the problem with COVID.
We saw this.
It was a one size fits all approach.
Why are we treating New York?
I mean, at some point it was kind of a shift, but why was New York being treated like Texas?
Like it's not the same.
Like they don't have a live even, even in New York, like upstate versus New York city.
They're not the same.
So I'll put it this way, man, because we've talked about the peaceful divorce scenario.
It's, it's pretty popular. Like I, in the sense that a lot of people are talking about it.
And we brought this up a couple times.
But I'll say this, man.
The left likes to say that the red states will be a third world country.
I've talked about how cool is that ancient technologies YouTube channel where the guy builds mud huts and like clay pots and stuff.
I'm like, I'm totally down to build my own little cabin.
And, you know, we're talking about getting this massive farmland, like open land in West Virginia,
just so we can build and do our thing, use our hands and have our own space. Start from scratch.
Yeah. Built just like that sounds fun. I'm not worried about going to New York City.
I haven't lived in New York City in a couple in several years now. I got out of there i was like i don't like you know at a certain point i really liked the idea of being
in this dense urban jungle and or concrete jungle and then at a certain point i was like i can't do
anything no you can't you can't do anything i couldn't even have a moped i couldn't you couldn't
even drive a car there's there's you can't even park in manhattan i'm like this sucks yeah you
can't get around you know it's really funny you know we're out in the middle of nowhere but we're still really close to like a good airport and i was worried i'm like man this sucks. You can't get around. You know, it's really funny. You know, we're out in the middle of nowhere, but we're still really close to like a good
airport.
And I was worried.
I'm like, man, it's pretty far away.
And then I realized if you live in New York City, if we did this show in New York City
and we wanted to fly in a guest, if you were in Brooklyn, for instance, Williamsburg, maybe
popular hipster area, no matter what airport someone lands at, it's like an hour or two
hours to get there.
It's only like five or seven miles that's how that's how jammed up and congested and awful these cities are sitting in
a car in traffic with stoplights you can't move 10 bucks to go through the tunnel or whatever i'm
just like dude i want to live in a mountain and it's crazy how considering that there are actually
people that want to move towards a direct democracy where folks in areas like that get to rule over or more so make rules on behalf.
They want to get rid of the electoral college.
I think we really have to understand here that collective centralization is psychotic.
I think we just need to understand that.
It's crazy.
It's crazy. It's insane. If you think that one person could know what's best for everyone, and that's basically the idea of the left, of communists, of more and more progressive leaders that think that they know what's best for you.
And there's two groups of people, the people who believe that and the people who just want to be left alone.
Create two separate territories.
Let people who want to be left alone on this side, people who don't want to be left alone,
love the nanny state,
love being told what to do,
love getting slapped around,
like getting their toys taken away,
like being fined and penalized
for living their life like they do.
If you like that,
you like dominatrix or whatever,
you go to that side of the country.
It's okay.
I don't blame you.
Hey, I'm a free-minded person.
You do whatever you got to do.
Can't you do this in parts of Mexico?
Like, aren't there places where there's, like, no cops and you can just, like, do your thing?
Like in Charan, yes.
Charan, I visited there personally.
I did a little small documentary on it on my YouTube channel.
And it's a city of 30,000 people that kicked out the police, kicked out the government,
and in doing so, kicked out the cartel.
And it was in one of the most dangerous states, Michoacan,
where people were dying more than anywhere else in all of Mexico.
Now, that city, Cheran, is one of the safest places in all of Mexico,
even though it's surrounded by all this violence.
And there wasn't a murder there within seven years.
Ever since, they got rid of this.
And they live under a kind of anarchistic system, but they have
community meetings and they decide what's
best for them as an individual. And they
are armed to the teeth and the Mexican
government keeps trying to disarm them,
but they say no and they have their own
checkpoints literally banning politicians
and banning any political slogans,
any political banners, any political
stickers. If you have a political sticker and
you want to enter their town, they're going to make you take it off they literally have checkpoints with guys with uh
you know ar-15 saying nope you're not coming in let me give a shout out to those antifa leftists
who are constantly saying very very similar things that you don't need government that you can work
live cooperatively and have community meetings and everyone gets by but you know i'll tell you
the one thing that probably made me like i've always been fairly libertarian a lot of policy issues i've like look i'm a
skateboarder so i i grew up in the city and i'm like skateboarders have a problem with authority
man you just want to be left alone but i i go to west virginia and i and again like i said i'm
driving around at all these houses everywhere and i'm like there's no cops none none i mean there are sheriffs i guess there are some cops but people are saying oh man if you call
them it's like an hour before they get here now i lived in miami and it was very much like that
and the one thing you always hear about like where's the crime it's like well everybody's armed
in armed society it's a plot study let's say right west virginia has some of the most second amendment second amendment friendly kind of initiatives more than i think you know than the majority of
the united states i remember we were driving through it and i'm like i haven't seen a police
officer once and then you started laughing like yeah i'm like this is amazing this is awesome
i like this why doesn't antifa move to west virginia man well the thing is they're frauds
man let's be i want to be clear they are complete frauds those guys are and i think maybe it does stem from them being so anti-private property rights
but these guys have no problem with utilizing like when we talk about the antifa type so
these kind of progressive uber progressives claim to be uh anti even they they throw out the slogans
of defund the police but really all they wanted to do was replace it with the woke police yeah that was more so what it was that's what makes
them frauds and this is why i don't ally myself there was like black children that were shot and
killed exactly like well let me let me outcry let me tell you something we we we were luke and i
were downstairs earlier we're talking about setting up like getting this like 100 acres it's cheap man
100 acres in the middle of nowhere west virgin Virginia is not expensive, especially if people come in, pool their resources.
And so we're talking about the fun things we can do, what we can build, have all this free space,
just be left alone. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm saying, where's the left to go and do this? You want,
you want your commune? You can build it. But let me tell you a story. And you might remember this
during Occupy Wall Street. I've told this to the audience. I don't, you've probably not heard this. your commune you can build it but let me tell you a story and you might remember this during occupy
wall street i've told this to the audience i don't you've probably not heard this someone donated a
farm to the occupiers to the activists and so a bunch of these people moved upstate to live on
this farm and be self-sufficient self-sustainable and it was a leftist dream man no pollution no
carbon you know they were taking care of the animals and living off the
earth they had collectives where they shared their own food and guess how how long i'm sure some of
the people like stayed for a long time it was a huge territory by the way but let me let me say
the of the people i knew to occupy how do you think how long do you think they they lasted
how long do you think they made it on this farm to put up that's tough so they moved from the city urban liberals oh so they to a farm
to to live on a off the earth how long do you think they made it i'm gonna say i'm gonna say
i'm gonna and i think i'm actually overshooting i'm gonna say three months two weeks
two weeks so i i had some friends who came back i had some friends they were like we're gonna go
live on this farm man and they were talking about the banks are had some friends that were like, we're going to go live on this farm, man. And they were talking about the banks ripping us off.
They're like, if we're working on the farm and we're growing our own food, we're not
getting taxed on that.
They can't take that from us.
And so we're not going to contribute to climate change.
We're not going to contribute to these banks are, you know, extracting our value and we're
going to be relying on ourselves.
And then you don't happen when they came back.
I was like, you were gone for two weeks.
Like what happened?
It wasn't fun.
And they were like, dude, you wake up at 6 a.mm you go to bed at midnight and you're working non-stop the
whole time no days off never and i laughed and i'm like what did you think it meant to live on a farm
dude did you think you were gonna go there and put your feet up and chew on straw and just the
apples from the tree the answer is yes yes the answer is yes no they seriously like i knew hold
on i knew one or two people there that were good people.
No, for sure.
They were good-hearted people.
A bunch of people totally were into it.
But I do remember them saying they had this huge territory, and they were recruiting for it hard because no one went.
A few people went.
Two of the people were really great human beings.
And I think that there are some people that did stay on that farm and did eventually start working on the land and stood there a lot longer than two weeks.
But as you said, that doesn't really portray well.
That's representative to me with the ideology and what it is that they – it's like when we talk about it being maybe a pipe dream, I don't think these guys understand work.
And we talked about this in yesterday's show about how, you know, they don't understand farming.
That's not anything that is even.
This is why it's so easy for them, for someone like in Portland or something like that, to just sit up here and say, well, you guys got all the money.
You guys got all the resources.
Just give us the resources.
They don't understand, like, how those resources get from point A to point B.
That's not even.
It's just because they have so easy access.
Thanks to the market
being not only we don't have
a free market by any means. It's freer
than a lot of other places. You know that song
Money for Nothing? Yeah. Money for
nothing and the chicks for free.
It's this. My understanding of the
song was that the, was it the Rascal Flats
who wrote that? That they overheard some. Dire Straits.
Dire Straits. What? Rascal Flats?
Yeah, what is that? That's a country band. Dire Straits. Dire Straits. What? Rascal Flatts? Yeah, what is that? Is that something?
That's a country band.
Okay, anyway, Dire Straits.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Anyway, apparently there were guys who were watching one of their music videos or something
like this and thought it was easy.
Like, everything's always easy.
It reminds me of so many people who think, man, I'm in the wrong business.
I should be on YouTube.
It's so easy.
I get that.
I know you get it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's so easy. I get that. I know you get it.
Oh, yeah.
It's just easy.
I'm like, all right, do it.
Right.
Do it.
If it's that easy to do it.
And they don't.
Then they don't because they don't understand it.
It's like they see the outcome more than anything.
They don't see the fact that you have to work beat on your craft or the grinding.
I was telling my followers today, I was like, I don't think y'all understand.
Tim wakes up in the morning and gets to work like he even now like even with him being a successful person he gets up and he grinds just like we all do like it's not coming to us you
know yeah we were screaming about uh just moments ago before we started the show i'm like we got to
go to this thing and do the hotel thing january 6th yeah and you're like no man i can't i gotta
work and which you know you gotta you gotta, I can't. I got to work. And which, you know, you got to respect Tim North, I think,
because he works extremely hard.
I got to say that.
But also there's a similar trend with this ideology
and people going hungry,
whether it's the USSR, China, Venezuela, Zimbabwe.
I'm sorry.
I like to eat.
And a lot of other people like to eat too.
I made cookie cupcakes.
Oh, man.
And this dude ate all of them.
I come from Poland and in Poland
if there's food on the table you eat it
if you don't finish it
grandma's gonna hit you with a spoon over your head
and why is that?
because we went through starvation
because of the USSR
that literally brought in communism
welfare for the people
we're gonna take care of everyone
you're gonna have to buy everything on a piece of paper that the government mandates literally starved so many people uh and
my family went through hell uh it goes back to though what you were saying earlier about
why it's so important why do we advocate for free markets and the division of labor and all of those
things that a lot of progressives or communists would generally say is a bad thing. It's this idea that a group, even a group of people is what, 330 plus million people in this country.
Like this idea that a handful of people can just dictate how much something must cost, how much something, you know, how we can allocate all of these resources for that many amount of people is insane.
And nowhere in history uh at definitely
at well at least at that large of a scale has that work you talked about the uss all you got
us there what got them overages and and shortages it's that central planning or this idea that if
we can get a group of people whether vote elected or someone came down with the iron fist we can get
a group of people to to to force you all to give us the stuff and we allocate it. Y'all gonna be
alright. But you're wrong. You're wrong.
Where else would Sri Lanka get their
speedboats if it wasn't for this system?
Where else would Pakistan get their
gender studies? Where else would there be book
clubs in Pakistan and Afghanistan if it wasn't
for our system?
Also, surrounding that
important news about government spending,
there's also a new article that is pretty this this this next story ties in exactly what you
were just saying about these leftists saying you've got the resources just give them to me
not realizing all the work that goes into it so the big news we have now that came out today
is that mitch mcconnell first of all he he objected to the two thousand dollar stimulus bill
and everybody's complaining oh mitch mcconnell's blocking our stimulus or whatever. Mitch McConnell introduces $2,000 aid checks bill tied to social
media immunity and election fraud. This is really interesting stuff. Basically, what Mitch McConnell
is saying is, I'm not going to give you your blanket $2,000. You're going to vote for my $2,000.
And here's what it says. As part of McConnell's bill, section 230, the social media
immunity law would be repealed and a commission on election fraud would be created. The stimulus
checks would be increased to $2,000 from the current 600. Quote, it will not pass the house
and cannot become law. Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement referring to
the Democratic majority House of Representatives. McConnell's office was not immediately available
for comment, blah, blah, blah.
Do you think they're going to vote for this?
Because this is interesting stuff.
I've been saying for a while, you know, Trump wants to repeal 230.
I think it's really, really bad.
But some conservatives made some really good points.
And I'll tell you why I think it's bad.
Repealing 230 means that it's the end of social media as we know it.
I think if I was going to be optimistic, this show would probably be fine because YouTube is trying to be like Netflix.
And they like this show.
They seem to like me and the people I associate with or whatever because it's safe, I suppose.
Well, YouTube doesn't seem to have a problem with you being on the show, right?
So here's the point.
If I was going to pitch something to netflix you know
i've actually had a lot of discussions it's likely they'd probably pick something up so youtube's
gonna be like this is a good show we can keep this we're safe but they're gonna get rid of all
the smaller creators your channel eric might be at risk because they're gonna be like we don't know
this guy is we don't care and we don't want to get sued for libel and defamation so they're gonna
get rid of anyone who's not approved yeah so i think ultimately it's a bad idea. But what's interesting is a lot of conservatives brought up a really good point.
They said, Tim, we've already been purged.
It's only good for us if they get rid of it.
If we're out, then so I guess the way you put it is, if right now the media companies are favoring progressive ideals and restricting conservatives, then the best thing for conservatives is to nuke the whole system.
Because right now they're losing because of it. Well, I think Section 230 is going to be abused,
especially under a Biden administration that has many high level tech executives within it.
And of course, they're going to be patting and patting each other on the back and helping each
other out. And of course, the little guys are going to get screwed over and everyone else is
going to be allowed to do what they usually do. Or it's just not going to be enforced like many of the laws
that are just there on the books, but they're not really used at all. So I think that's a
probability that we have to understand here as well. I don't know if they'd actually move to
repeal it, but I know the Democrats are probably going, oh no, I can't believe they're going to
repeal this. Whatever will we do? Because like I said, YouTube will allow my show to be around.
And you know what else is going to happen?
Take a look at Netflix.
Take a look at all of these big production companies.
What kind of movies are they making?
They're making woke and far left and weird.
That's all I talk about on the channel.
Yeah, they're making all of this stuff.
So if you get rid of the independent creators, that's what's left.
Yeah.
With their competition though
like i've long talked about that like we are this is why channels like mine uh blew up over the
course of the last you know couple of years because of that it's like a lot of folks are
tired of that they're like all right we're being lectured all the time in the movies that we
watch the games that we play the comic books that we we read. And we don't want any of that.
But the issue, though, when we talk about, like, I don't know, these Uber tech companies that take these government.
I would encourage you guys to look at that.
I know we talk about corporate welfare all the time.
But just go look at how much these guys get in terms of not even with the taxation, but just with, with like how they work with the government directly, be it in government contracts.
Like this big tech company. Yeah, like the guarantees of protection.
Yeah, exactly. And why it is that they often favor those more regulatory bodies, because they're the ones that benefited.
We talk about we talked about that last show with talking with the bail monopoly.
Like that was what would happen. They work with the bail monopoly. That was what happened.
They worked with the state, and it sounds good.
It's like, hey, we're protecting you, net neutrality.
We're protecting you.
And then it's like, no, that actually does not benefit you.
They just worded it in a way that was supposed to benefit you.
This is how the game works.
Mitch McConnell is coming at repealing 230 and an election fraud investigation from the left.
The left argument.
This is really interesting.
Give the people their $2,000 and repeal 230.
That's how they do it.
And although the poor.
They give you money.
Now, I think, you know, part of me, I look at the repeal of 230.
And, like, imagine if we got rid of social media.
We went back to the era of, like, four or five news channels.
Then you'd have the restoration of many news organizations and a balance of competition between perspectives and a more unified worldview for people in this country.
At least that's the idealistic utopian vision of what might happen.
In reality, what will happen is the progressive leftists who have already gone insane from their own platforms, like Jack Dorsey went nuts.
Jack Dorsey's own creation, Twitter, crazy and i and i mean it you can look at the things he
believes and says and it's a product of the far left in a in a in a swimming in a pool of their
own filth yeah and then they prop each other up the likes create more likes create more shares
more retweets and then it spirals out of control and then he starts believing you know the refuse
coming out of his own platform that will will be what's left. There won't
be this perfect system of restoring balance and bringing back regular and honest, independent
voices. Nope, it's too late. There's a split. I'll tell you this, man, if they get rid of 230
and it really does result in more censorship and more banning, it would just accelerate everything.
I think, though, when we talk about that and also the other pork though you know that we somehow stopped talking about uh backestani
gender studies yes all of that stuff that's another way in in how they pass stuff like that
you're seeing an example of that it's like how can we get them to focus on that like okay even
all right we they want a little more cash bam a little more cash and then it's like all right well we'll give them 2 000 but all of that garbage is still in there
yeah right it's still there and and we're not i don't want to say we're not talking about it but
it's like oh hey we're getting we're getting a raise on on this free money that we just printed
out thin air uh but we're not talking about that's how it gets passed it's like if i can get you to
focus on that they do that with titles of bills all the time where it's like hey this is supposed to be this and then someone that actually reads the
damn bills like wait a minute that's not what that is ran or some uh something like that's not what
that is i actually read this bill it doesn't say do exactly this this and that and then like well
he's a racist because he didn't vote for for this but the the you like black people bill or something like that.
And there's all types of garbage in it.
Yeah.
If they took the entire omnibus and just broke it up and spread it around.
Atomized it.
No, no, no.
I mean, it's broken up and said, we're going to give everyone an equal share.
Every American, every working American.
Oh, you're talking about like in the price point that it's at right now.
2.7 trillion or whatever divided by 225 million working Americans.
Everybody gets like 12 grand.
12 grand.
Another thing we need to realize, we need to stop saying that the government is giving us something.
They're not.
They're borrowing it from us, which we're going to have to pay back in taxes or with inflation for us or our children or our children.
Children are going to have to pay for this.
That's guaranteed.
They're stealing from future generations.
And this is why we—
They're not giving us nothing.
Yeah, they'll devalue what you have right now, and they're selling off assets of unborn people.
That's exactly what they're doing.
And the fact that people are just so okay with that, to me, is what's so freaky about it.
You break it down to them like, dude, that money is not there.
This whole myth that you think, well, I'm just getting my taxpayer money back.
Your money's gone.
They don't have it.
They don't have it.
They're in the red right now and still spending it.
They don't have your money.
This is why we got off the gold standard.
Because they borrowed your money, spent it, and when you asked for it back, they said, here's a piece of paper.
It's good for the money, I swear.
Exactly.
And people were like, all right, I guess.
I don't think you can go back on the gold standard at this point.
A lot of people wanted to.
Didn't Trump try appointing that lady who wanted to get him down the gold standard
i wish that would have happened that would have been hilarious man yeah you know i just kind of
want like i don't know if i think the system might be too far gone but it would be nice to be back on
a track where you can understand what's happening and we're at this point now where it's this
massive ponzi scheme where they just deficit spend into oblivion, which results in like the interest being higher than the ability to even pay anything back.
So that means there's rapid inflation.
It's a big Ponzi scheme.
And the reason it won't collapse is because they have guns.
If Donald Trump was real, he would have appointed Ron Paul to the head of the Federal Reserve.
I talked to Ron.
I'm like, Ron, what did you do?
He's like, yeah, I'll do this.
I'll do this in a heartbeat.
Of course he'd do it.
Yeah.
Of course he'd do it. i think that's that's if they wanted to if they well they would have they would have they if they really wanted to take an axe to
the system that would have been the guy that that they went with in 2012 to 2008 as well uh but no
like he told me he would do it yeah of course i know i know it will but seriously guys it's like
trying to get people to it's like pulling pulling, literally pulling teeth out of people's mouths, man, trying to get them to understand that money's not there.
It's like they don't get it.
I get in these fights with, can I say boomer conservative?
Is that like offensive or something like that?
That's an age slur.
Okay, all right.
You can say I'm kidding.
All right, yeah, I'm kidding.
It probably is.
I'm kidding, yeah.
But no, and I talk about Social Security and they like seriously think, well, if we're going
to take away Social Security, then I want my money back.
And I'm like, bro, your money's not there.
The money that you that you were you were being taxed, you've been stolen from, which
is a decent portion of your check is gone.
They don't even pretend that it is yours.
What's happening right now is you're living
off of the current generation that's going to end up in the same position this is why it's a it's a
literal ponzi scheme uh in that regards but people don't understand that and i guess it's because
maybe the state has babied them and given them whatever they want to check us out so so uh you
know luke and i were talking about getting this big farm property and what we could do if we had
like our own cryptocurrency and it's like we want people big farm property and what we could do if we had our own cryptocurrency.
And it's like we want people to come and contribute and help us build stuff.
And I'm like, how do you actually create value in a currency?
How do you actually convince people it's worth something if you can just print it out of thin air?
Why would anyone be like, oh, I want some of that?
Why?
You're just going to keep printing it. No one's going to want any from me.
For the background, we were talking about creating two kind of civilizations.
One with a lot of government. One with no government government and we're going to think of ways how to make
currencies we were talking about cryptocurrencies and using some kind of way to create value one
idea i had was to make one working hour a value token that people could use and trade within the
community that's what some local communities in breaking ridge but listen listen but the problem is so first the context is like doing some kind of show where we're like who would succeed
regulation versus no regulation and the problem with that idea of the hour is if someone can just
print the money arbitrarily then why would i do work for your currency if you're not working and
just printing it out and getting whatever you want from me? That's what's happening right now. I know. You just described American
fiscal policy. That's why I complain to people when they're like, just print more. When Rand
Paul comes out and he's like, why not 20,000? Why not UBI? And I'm like, yes, people don't get it.
You can't just do that. That's true no but that's why and it's funny you
guys are having that conversation though that's exactly why it's important that the market be
free enough for folks that are even smarter than everybody that's at the table right now to be able
to figure that out and answer that sort of question this is why people acting freely is so
important because we don't got out of answers. It's actually these very, very arrogant.
It's not just progressives,
but you know,
it's,
it's especially progressives that are very arrogant enough to think that they have the,
all the answers.
And because they can,
it's one of the biggest criticisms of what maybe Luke and I more so believe
in is that,
well,
they figure,
well,
I can't,
I can't possibly like conceive an idea or see that world actually come into
fruition.
And I'm like like how arrogant of
you to think you're the smartest person to ever live that just because you can't see that being
done it just can't be done at all you know it's kind of funny sorry and go yeah what we could do
in a community is we each print our own crypto and then so if you wanted me to do something for you
it would be five tokens you would give me five tokens or I would give you five tokens for your product. But if I gave you, if I paid you an Eric coin, I only had to give you
four tokens. So the value then would, it would create a value system for all these different
currencies that we'd start inter-trading. Like I would give you five tokens for four,
if you're going to give me Eric tokens so that we, we still make a, we still come out even,
except you get an extra token out of it. So, and then you're going to, you're going to give me Eric tokens so that we, we still make a, we still come out even except you get an extra token out of it.
So,
and then you're going to,
you're going to still get tokens for your labor and get paid.
Um,
and then they could pay you five tokens of else.
Uh,
I think that would,
that would be how you would do that.
Like this convo.
And I fact that way,
I love we having this conversation because these are the conversation that
innovators have,
right?
And these are,
these are,
these are, and this is why it's so important for the market to be free enough
so we can have that conversation.
The state says, well, I have the smartest people on my team.
Therefore, what I say has to go.
Never mind if it hasn't worked.
Never mind if it's possibly the most dumbest idea.
It doesn't matter.
I have the monopoly on law.
Well, this is the
important thing when we're moving towards an ideology we're moving away towards a merit-based
society and whenever we see governments whether germany in world war ii or the ussr before world
war one whenever they push ideology more than they do merit there's always a lot of destruction
because there's always a controlling of individuals, not based on their intelligence, not based on their skills, but based on their
obedience to the state. And it's interesting that they call themselves, you know, individuals call
themselves progressives, when in human history, you look at innovation, progression, it's made
when there's very little government. And then these individuals who want more government are calling themselves progressives?
That to me is just mind-boggling.
It just shows you that we're kind of living
in a 1984 double-speak world
where words have double meanings now.
The left, I think it was Cenk Uygur who said this,
the progressives always win, that the left always wins.
And a lot of people corrected him saying,
no, liberty always wins.
A lot of these issues people talk about
going back to like the fight for freedom of speech
in the Vietnam era was about liberty,
individual rights, civil rights, gay marriage,
all the stuff has always been about individual liberties
and the rights of the individual to do things.
It's not been about your authority
as governor of New York to shut down the economy,
destroy people's lives
and put up checkpoints
around your city to make sure nobody comes in. And that almost sounds like you're just separating
yourself from the rest of this country. We talked about divorce before. A lot of these places are
already doing it. But I want to move on to this subject of what happens when people finally
have had enough. Because we did mention this a little bit earlier in the show.
What happens when people have nothing left to lose? What happens when we start seeing more and more videos of people who are desperate?
We see these stories about the woman beating the cop with the baton because she didn't want to
wear a mask. People are angry and they don't care. You guys ever hear that story about the
dude who walks into a bank and he has a note. The note is a robbery. He's demanding $1. He threatens
them and says, give me a dollar or else.
Then he goes and sits down and he waits for the cops to come and arrest him.
You know why?
Because he had cancer and he was going to die.
And he said, it's the only way I can get treatment.
That's why he did it.
The left likes to bring it up saying that's how messed up our health care system is.
I'm like, I don't think that's a good example of how messed up our health care system is.
But I do think it's interesting that our prisoners get better health care than, say, like this old guy.
So there's an interesting point.
But this dude was desperate.
So desperate, he did a staged kind of robbery to go to prison.
What happens when people have nothing left to lose and they don't care about prison?
Yeah, no, that's when the violence happens, right?
When people are down and out.
And I think a lot of people have taken for granted that stability.
I know a lot of folks, even especially progressives, talk about change and hope and stuff like that.
Believe it or not, a lot of people don't want that. Right.
A lot of people are comfortable being able to see exactly where they're at and where they're going to be able to go.
It's when you get that sort of unfamiliarity where people are like, I don't know when the next check's going to come. I don't know when, if I'm going to be able to pay, uh, and then that's when they start to erupt.
Well, here, here's the news. Ex-Pence aide turned Trump critic, very concerned about January 6th
violence. So this hotel, Hotel Harrington announces they're shutting down for three days
when this DC event is supposed to happen.
And apparently it's because the Washington Post claimed the Proud Boys were using it as a headquarters.
The Proud Boys apparently came out and said, that's not true.
We haven't used that place for months.
And they're saying now on January 6, Proud Boys are going to be showing up in plain clothes, not wearing their iconic shirts.
And some of them are going to be dressed like Antifa.
So there's very serious concern that there's actual planning going into what's going to
happen.
I think one of the biggest mistakes, you know, I was thinking about this.
One of the biggest mistakes Proud Boys could make is going and fighting with Antifa.
Right now, I don't think that matters.
I don't think Trump supporters fights are with Antifa.
It's with the establishment government and the Democrats.
Antifa's biggest mistake would be going and fighting with trump supporters you know it's
a really interesting thing when i see there was a a funny post by shu on head you know shu yeah
she posted uh people i think it was in uh i can't remember which state it was you know where this
was where they're setting up the guillotine in front of the politician's house or whatever i
think that was in mexico yeah it's in mexico i think and she said cons this could be us marching
to congress together or whatever and i said when when trump's out of the white house the enemy of my enemy is
my friend is gonna start looking real good to a lot of people yeah i mean i get that my thing is
though why i know a lot of folks rag on me because i say i will not ally with these types because i
know my next is my my back against the wall yeah You know what I mean? And they're going to put me up against it because ultimately it's about,
that's why I don't want to have them using me as my useful idiots.
But we got to talk about that, though, because it's a legitimate concern.
But I also think it's a lot of leftists over this course of this last year
have been trying to, for the sake of legitimizing their own
bad behavior trying to say that the other side would do what it is that they would do now keep
in mind what all they've been doing for the past i don't know months right definitely this year of
course maybe we can talk about what's happened before that but let's just focus on what happened
post george floyd where you're talking about hundreds of spots and and
in some cases where you go in like the portlands and the seattles of the world you're talking about
months at a time right that they were just at riding acting up so the reason why they do that
is so they can say hey look at them and what they do right look at look at them when to basically to
try to absolve them of the bad behavior.
I think it's likely more likely, let's say I won't say likely, but I think it's more likely that they would have that.
You probably see a first big powwow with guys that are, quote unquote, on the right, but more so with the police, because they're they're more when they protest.
This is why you don't see when you generally they go do their thing. don't really go see uh wendy's get burnt down or something like that generally
when the when the quote-unquote right links up that generally doesn't really have they're more
precise but what is they do so i get the desperation but that desperation may have them
more so turning on the and maybe i'm just being an audio log right now but that desperation may
have them
actually looking to the people who, the police more than anyone. Right, right, right. I don't,
I don't think Trump supporters, they're planning on going to DC, setting up tents, occupying and,
and, and protesting, shutting things down. I think it's going to get pretty big. I mean,
you got this guy going on MSNBC saying, you know, it's going to get violent and I'm really worried
about this hotel shutting down, man. That's, that's a crazy signal. But what do you think is going to happen? You think Antifa
are going to be the ones blocking the Trump supporters from having their protests? It's
going to be the police. Yeah, exactly. I think Trump's going to be like, OK, officer, we're
not going to protest the president anymore. They've done that for a while and they know that
that's not work. That's not been a thing. When Trump was tweeting Antifa bad and the cops are
fighting Antifa, they had the Trump supporters, the Proud Boys, everybody at their back saying, do it.
We got your back.
Now the people blocking the Trump supporters are the cops and the cops saying, get out of my way.
I'm here for Trump, not for you.
So I'm curious.
Could you know, I wonder how likely the possibility is that you get the cops fighting two different groups on two different fronts.
That's interesting.
It'll be really different, but I wouldn't be surprised
because we've already seen right-wing groups fighting with cops.
Not nearly as bad as how the left does it, but they started.
That was unheard of, though.
That's why it's important to notate that because that's not a thing.
Even back when the Tea Party thing was going down,
you may have had a skirmish here and there,
but for the most part, that was not what happened. you imagine if there's like a guy with a trump flag and he's
yelling at a cop and there's an antifa guy 10 feet away and be a nice whoever gets that photo
is gonna be a million but they're both yelling at cops and the antifa guy looks over and sees
trump supporter yelling at the cop and then he's like i'm not i'm not gonna get involved in that
and he keeps yelling he like i'm gonna ignore that he's not gonna normally the antifa guys
want to go fight the proud boys the proud boys want to go fight the Proud Boys. The Proud Boys want to go fight Antifa.
But what happens when they're both protesting the government?
It's going to be interesting because I think one of the problems is tribalism.
And both sides are trying to use any ally to get control of the White House.
The problem is, for the left, you see Donald Trump, the establishment Republicans don't like him, but they'll wait.
They'll stand there and say, okay, fine.
Well, Trump's in charge.
We'll bide our time.
Trump supporters just want Trump.
So that creates a good bit of unity between Republicans willing to just say okay to Trump and Trump supporters who are fighting for Trump.
On the left, the Antifa people are like, yeah, yeah, we'll fight with you to get rid of Trump, but we're not supporting Biden.
There's no unity on the left over who their candidate is.
So they're in a weakened position.
So if the fight is against Joe Biden and Trump's gone, then Antifa is not going to be fighting with the right.
They're going to be fighting the cops.
And then the Trump supporters aren't going to be fighting with Antifa because they're both fighting the establishment.
And that's gonna be a thing that's gonna happen because i i felt like i saw
too many times where they kind of doing during the obama presidency i don't know if they've
gotten amped up enough to maybe go back on that but during the obama presidency there were a lot
of instances in which they could have went that route and they decided not to in fact when it
came to the riding that was one of the things that obama um certainly was he had no issue coming out
and being like okay y'all y'all need to stop when the ferguson thing and all that stuff went down he
was he had no issue being like okay y'all are being y'all are being stupid people need to remember
occupy wall street started yeah exactly obama exactly major riots across the united states
started under obama today i sent out a a meme with a young girl with a Biden hat saying, thank you for saving
us.
And then Biden is there looking at her in disgust saying, I'm literally going to do
everything Trump did.
That's all you should have.
Yeah.
And we have to understand, Biden is the epitome of the establishment.
When you look at his cabinet, when you look at his administration, he has Goldman Sachs.
He has large tech executives.
He has executives from all the worst possible elements of the corporatist world possible.
People are going to get a very rude awakening to who he really is, the policies he sets forward.
And when he gets into office, he's not going to serve you.
He's going to serve the special interests that put him in there.
And when he does that, especially with all the civil unrest we've been seeing, it's been brewing, it's been building up. I think it would be naive to think that there's
going to be peace civilly in the United States coming forward from here.
This is why the Democrats rely on low information voters. It's why they want the voting age to be
16, because these people who are in their 20s who voted for Biden aren't old enough to remember Joe
Biden killing kids
in foreign countries and Obama's extrajudicial assassinations.
Dumb people are also, let's be honest here, more violent.
So when you have a whole bunch of dumb, violent people getting angry, you're brewing a recipe
for disaster.
Yeah, no, they were there useful idiots.
I mean, we saw that with Black Lives Matter, not getting a seat at the table at their little civil rights.
It's more of the civil like the establishment civil rights guys that were linking up with with Biden and Black Lives Matter didn't get a seat at the table.
And they were all frustrated. Like, we demand a seat. And I was like, like, dude, they've been using y'all for useful idiots for the last I don't know how long.
It's not like they care to not understand much of what y'all... Y'all didn't get much. Y'all didn't get anything out of Biden...
Excuse me, out of an Obama presidency.
What makes you think that you will be prioritized?
They may campaign on that, but what makes
you think they're going to prioritize you
once they get in? But I'll tell you,
we talk about dumb, violent people, right?
There's actually a better way
to predict if someone's going to be violent.
Do they got anything to lose?
Well, a lot of these young people don't.
They got no jobs.
They got no family.
And they're in debt.
Yeah, a worthless degree.
A worthless degree.
Now they're seeing all this violence.
Look at the George Floyd riots.
People are locked up in their concrete cubicles
that smell like sour milk in New York City.
Perfect storm.
And so we had the comedian, Ryan Long.
Let me finish.
We had this comedian, Ryan Long, on the show.
And he was talking about when the protests
and riots started happening,
he was like, well, I can go outside now, right?
A lot of these people in New York don't have kids.
So they go to jail.
So what?
They lose their job.
Well, it doesn't matter, right?
They're angry.
They have nothing to lose.
Well, now we have Trump supporters and regular people whose businesses no longer exist.
They can't feed their kids even if they want to.
They got nothing left to lose.
And so that's when people
snap another kind of vague scientific term brought up here is that also people who don't get laid
also are more violent very true and we have seen also a huge increase of the use of only fans and
also other online is that true stores people don't get like a violent yes yes that's one of the big
predictions it's it's your. It's if you're
not only your intellect, but also
your social intelligence,
your social IQ, that also matters.
And if you're not getting some,
you're going to have to
release that pent-up energy somewhere else.
If you look at something like the Portland
mug shots, you can kind of...
You kind of...
There's that meme about male feminists like
they're predators right there's that there's a meme reset the clock and it's because a lot of
these guys think in order to get with a woman they gotta pretend to be a feminist yeah yeah
exactly and oh i'm i'm so feminist too look at me and and then the women don't respect them and
then they they get angry when the women walk up won't hook up with them and then we get all these
stories story after story these male feminists turn out to be rapists
or abusers yeah creepers the biggest creeps are the ones pretending to be something that they're
not and they're always saying but they're like but i said everything she wants me to hear she's
i'm doing all that and like what do you think people don't respect you patronizing them and
this is the whole thing when it comes to the whole black lives matter there's so many examples of
this there's so many initiatives by the establishment by the elites for you not to be a
true genuine person for you to be corporate replicas of what they want you to be that it's
leading to dysfunction and this dysfunction is a byproduct of this curated algorithm of this
mainstream media of this entertainment industry that is shaping people's minds to be destructive.
Because when you're destructive,
you, of course, are going to have to be obedient
to the big overlord that is going to beat you over the head
and tell you exactly what to do.
Here's what you need to do.
You need to eat right.
You need to exercise.
You need to meditate.
You need to take care of yourself.
You need to get some.
And think.
You need to get some.
But listen, listen, listen.
Yes, but if you start with
improving yourself let's like there's a lot of people you know we were talking about you know
how good it feels to like to be to take care of yourself people don't realize and i was reading
this post on reddit about being fit being and and having you know exercising that a lot of people
don't like exercising right what they don't realize these people who don't exercise is that
if you exercise consistently you feel good all the time you wake up feeling like a million bucks
you're like oh you could like you feel like you could punch a bear in the face and the bear would
run away you know you're like you feel great but these people don't take care of themselves the
first thing you gotta do take care of yourself do some exercise eat better food portion control
stop think read meditate study yourself analyze yourself be honest with
yourself and then you'll get some there's a real because then you're gonna be a nice well-rounded
person well this is something we were talking about maybe highlighting the vlog on having a
vlog about bettering yourself we were talking about maybe doing ice baths and saunas and we're
getting a workout deprivation yeah yeah so we're talking about doing all that stuff a part of a
vlog and to just be examples of trying to be the best version of ourselves.
But that's what progressives like. Definitely the mainstream ones. That's not what they want.
You know what I mean? And this is why they actually shun those who try to put some sort of responsibility and accountability in the individual.
Right. And it's obviously in all the policies that they advocate that, hey, you don't better you don't better yourself.
Be be destructive, be dysfunctional. And we will give you this.
And, you know, the minute you start trying to show some, you know, shed some light, you were going to strip everything away from you.
So, like I said in yesterday's show, they incentivize you to fail progressive policies and why they advocate what it is that they advocate.
You need to look at the fact that what are they scared of?
Why are they so scared of people being free?
Why are they so scared of liberty?
And who protects these ideas, the academia and educational elites?
And why is it that they don't place the emphasis on, OK, instead of the state or this group of people moving your world, can you move your world for you?
Did you just fat shame me, Eric?
I did.
I'm not one of those body positive guys.
But think about the body positivity stuff.
They're basically saying, you don't need to change.
The world needs to change for you.
Think about how narcissistic that is.
It's not progressive either.
And insane.
It's destroying the whole health, the medical industry with overloading it with
individuals who think it's good to be unhealthy yeah and then they want free health care how do
you combine universal health care with people encouraging you to be out of shape unbelievable
it's healthy at every size i think it's absolutely hilarious to have the people who talk about fat
phobia also telling you to wear a mask yeah there's a contradiction there that people need
to realize it happening there.
No, no, you're wrong.
You're wrong.
Go ahead.
The people who are dying of COVID are the overweight people.
Yeah.
They want you to wear a mask because they're the ones who are going to die.
So what it is, and to go to that point, what it is is, again, they don't want to be responsible for themselves.
They want you to be responsible for them.
Listen, Eric, you got to wear a mask because if you choose to go outside, you might you might get me sick when I go. You go outside. Right. That's exactly what happened. But no,
like accountability is for me, that's been liberating. That's one of the most liberating
things that that when I had my political awakening, you know, and one of the most
things that I realized being accountable for my actions and being responsible, which is
that's the tradeoff with freedom, right, Is that you don't have that government guarantee.
You don't have that that that it's not it's not even a safety net.
It's what it is is encouraging you to not be great. Right.
And one of those things were that I realized was that, OK, I can there are things that are within my power.
I would always go out of my way to find, even in failure, right?
If I wanted to achieve something and I didn't, I always look to what could I have done to better my situation.
I say this as an athlete.
I got my tail.
I remember getting a dose blowed off of me my first freshman year track meet.
East of Kentucky was where it was at.
I thought I was a state qualifier coming from Texas, 5A.
I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm it.
First indoor, I never ran indoor track.
First indoor track meet, I got the doors blowed off of me, right?
And instead of looking at, okay, well, it's indoor.
I suck indoors.
I can't run indoors.
I had to look at it from a standpoint.
If I wanted to get better, and over the course of my track my collegiate track career was okay what was it that i did was
it was i in my dry phase too long was i did i come out of my dry phase too early there's little
stuff like that to try to improve my life but that's not what people want what people want is
for someone else to promise them that we will make your life better.
You you just just be, you know, be a loser for all they care.
You are not going to be held accountable for your actions.
You are not going to be held responsible.
And that can be said for a multitude of different things.
This is one of the hard things that people don't want to discuss when we talk about poverty they always talk about folks
in poverty as if they are the only ones like they got there by way of some i don't know white man
sitting around the corner pulling the strings and they made them be poor i've seen people ruin their
own lives that are in that pop-up that poverty population this is what i think is funny you know
i always thought about people who play say like world of warcraft and they make a
character a hunter and they go on quests and i'm like why don't you just you know like go hunt like
be a real hunter and i i look at these video games where people play a character and they get that
dopamine reward they're not improving themselves but i understand there's a real career in playing
games absolutely you know not not not disparaging that but i think like wouldn't you know for me
i don't like watching people do things i like doing things yeah i guess some people like watching but
for me it's like wouldn't you rather go out to that field and actually go hunt the boars
well no well i mean when you talk about gaming at least with me um i think that that kind of
the the accessibility i talk about this all the time about that's ruining gaming too it's not it's
like all all these mediums are being
ruined by this concept that we see
this in the fighting game community
where people
fighting the games, they got too hard, taking away
the combos because they want everybody to be able to fight.
Have you played Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite?
Yes. I threw that game in the trash.
I grew up playing Marvel vs. Capcom.
For those not familiar, it's a fighting arcade game
and when you're playing,
right,
there's some,
you know,
Eric,
you've played Marvel vs. Capcom 2.
You do air combos.
Yes.
You jump up,
you land in front of the bad guy,
you're your opponent,
you press down and fierce punch
to knock him in the air
and then you gotta do
a combination of light,
medium punches
to do your air combo
and then I get
Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite,
the new version.
I'm all excited.
This was a few years ago and I put it in and the only thing you got to do is press circle over and over
again one button and i was like i'm not even playing and and and he jumps for you it's all
automatic i'm like it's not a game anymore dude exactly all what what is it i just know we're
doing it we're doing a running competition tomorrow we're putting it on my instagram up
the hill here and and one thing i wanted to add to what you were saying is they don't want you
great they don't want you free they don't want you great.
They don't want you free.
They don't want you independent because when you are, you can't be subjugated.
And that's the name of the game.
And a lot of people have been brainwashed, have been tricked, have been conditioned,
have been programmed to accept their obedience to individuals that take advantage of them
and screw them over.
And who is they?
The aliens.
Yes.
Moving on to the next story. Finally, we get to talk who is they? The aliens. Yes. Moving on to the next story.
Finally we get to talk about the aliens.
The aliens.
I'm kidding. The they is not really the aliens.
You guys can't see this video, but I don't know
if you guys saw this. In West Virginia
there was a weird UFO
spotted in the sky that looked like
people are saying it's a UFO crashing
to Earth because there's like flames coming
out of it. Check out this video.
This video was uploaded on the 27th. UFO crashing to Earth because there's like flames coming out of it. Check out this video. So this video was uploaded on the 27th.
UFO crashing to Earth caught on camera in West Virginia.
Now, a lot of people have said it's easily explained.
What you're looking at is the contrails of a jet reflected in the sunlight.
The issue is the trails end.
If you look up these sunset contrailsils i don't know this this channel
is ghost that hunt back or something if you look up contrails from a jet in the sunlight you'll
see there's like it looks like fire but the the the the what is it the the water vapor that comes
out of the planes stays there in this video it's really weird it looks like it looks like there's
two distinct streaks of fire coming out of some weird object in the middle.
Nobody knows what it is so far.
And all people are saying it's an airplane.
I don't know for sure, but I got good news for everybody.
Because we have this omnibus bill, right?
Now, all of a sudden, people are like, look, I'm here for aliens, man.
I don't know what you're talking about, omnibus bill.
Okay, hold on, hold on.
5,500-page bill gets sent to congress
and somebody snuck in i'm assuming they snuck it in a provision in this ridiculous bill nobody read
something a provision mandating that the pentagon revealed their information on ufos
at least they got that and they could have put there's so many things that could have gotten
into this they you know i don't i don don't know how these government bills work where no one reads it, but someone knows what they put in there.
How does that work?
Could you just be like.
What if the aliens are writing a bill?
What if, like, how does this bill work, right?
Do I get to just like write a provision saying I get a million dollars and just slide it in?
Nobody reads it and they vote for it?
Basically.
So why doesn't anybody do that?
Whoever slid that in, thank you so much.
I appreciate you very much.
And we need more of you.
Now, will a lying government tell us the truth about aliens?
Well, that's a whole other issue. Well, let's see what they say over at New York Post.
They say President Trump's signature Sunday on the $2.3 trillion COVID-19 relief and government funding bill started a 180-day countdown for the Pentagon and spy agencies to say what they know about UFOs.
The provision received very little attention in part because it wasn't included in the text of
the five thousand five hundred ninety three page legislation, but as a committee comment
attached to the annual Intelligence Authorization Act, which was rolled into the massive bill.
The Senate Intelligence Committee, chaired by Marco Rubio, said in a comment,
it directs the director of national Intelligence in consultation with the Secretary of Defense
and the heads of such other agencies to submit a report within 180 days of the date of the
enactment of the act to Congressional Intelligence and Armed Service Committees on unidentified
aerial phenomena.
The report must address observed airborne objects that have not been identified
and should include a detailed analysis of unidentified phenomena data collected by
a geospatial intelligence, B, signals intelligence, C, human intelligence, and D,
measurement and signals intelligence. The report must also contain detailed analysis of data of
the FBI, which was derived from
investigations of intrusions of unidentified aerial phenomena data over restricted United
States airspace and an assessment of whether this unidentified aerial phenomena activity
may be attributed to one or more foreign adversaries.
Well, if they didn't include aliens, then does the Pentagon just not get to tell us
if it is because they put put four in adversaries.
They say former Pentagon and legislative officials confirmed Tuesday to the publication
the debrief that the package begins, the clock on UFO disclosures.
So there's a lot more.
Here's a quote from, we got this guy, Chris Mellon, former deputy assistant director of
defense intelligence, told the debriefief the newly enacted Intelligence Authorization Act incorporates the Senate Intelligence Committee's report language
calling for an unclassified all-source report on UAP phenomenon. This was accomplished in the
joint explanatory statement accompanying the bill. Assuming the executive branch honors this
important request, the nation will at long last have an objective basis
for assessing the validity
of the issue
and its national security implications.
This is an extraordinary
and long overdue opportunity.
So I want to go back
to that image
of that weird UFO
that looks like it's on fire
and crashing down Earth.
What is it?
We'll never,
we won't know,
but maybe
we'll find out soon, huh?
I don't know, man. Like, do y'all believe it's like aliens in general i don't know i don't think it's aliens no you don't think it is
i believe in aliens i don't know if that is aliens but you think after talking to some
high-level government officials that you think they're here told me that aliens do exist yes
i personally do believe they're here though i so, yes. Not in this room, specifically.
Are you sure?
We have to sit right there.
Are we sure?
We're not sure.
I can't explain it.
We got Ian here.
We got Ian, yes.
I mean, again, we can't definitively prove this without a shadow of a doubt.
There is some circumstantial evidence that I think is somewhat convincing.
But this year, we have to also understand that there have been a lot of government admissions when it comes to aliens.
This is not the first time that this subject was brought up.
We have learned this year that the government lied
about a secret Pentagon unit that they said never existed.
That's right, that's tracking stuff, right?
That's tracking a lot of this stuff.
So they actually are doing something.
They do have some data.
Will they share it with the American public?
That's another thing. But I think it's probable to believe that something else is out there do i have definitive
proof no i do not but isn't witness testimony circumstantial evidence yeah it's a certain
and we got we got that what's that dude in canada um he's the former defense minister of of canada
i gotta look up his name to tell you and. And he said, yep, they're aliens.
And then you got the Israeli Space Security
Agency guy saying the same thing this year.
Yeah, the former head of the Israeli Space
Program came out and said very
similar things to what the former
Minister of Defense for Canada said,
is that there's an alien federation,
that there's aliens
trying to keep the peace. The Galactic Federation.
So I was thinking something. I was playing my PS5 the other day, federation that there's aliens trying to keep the peace the galactic federation so so i was
thinking something i was i was i was playing my ps5 the other day right and there's this game i
saw a trailer for i think it's called stray and i guess i don't know the game is about i guess you
play cat but uh yeah when you see it and on the wall it says rip humans and then the people are
actually all robots and i thought about like what would happen if humans created a bunch of robots to do
tasks, but then humans died off?
What would those robots do?
Just keep going.
And I'm like, what if aliens created humans, but then left?
And now humans are like, that's why we're like, what's our purpose?
We don't know.
We have all these crazy philosophical questions.
And the reality is we just don't have one.
You know, the aliens came, made humans left because they didn't need to use human labor
anymore.
And now they're chilling, watching, Be like, what are they doing?
They're like building cities.
Why?
They're not doing anything.
I have the same question with this one that I had with the one that happened in China.
You know, it apparently crashed down to the earth.
Why don't we go to the site and see if we can find any pieces of it?
Did the whole thing burn up?
Is there absolutely no evidence left?
Like, why can't we find some kind of something to tell us what it might have been?
Because if it was just a jet,
it's up in the air.
Yeah, I think we should begin it.
Start telling us
what was there.
Right.
Start giving us
evidence and proof
of what was actually there
and then let the people
decide themselves.
You don't have to tell us
who, what, where,
and what specifically
you think happened.
Just show us exactly
what happened.
And I think that level
of transparency, that level of accountability is dearly needed within our government and uh i mean
this is something i personally want i was there at the storm area 51 protest eagerly waiting live
how'd that go and uh it was like uh it was like a cheap man's burning man boo uh but uh i'm still shocked how we went from storm area 51 in one year to
social distance stay home to stop the to stop the curve or whatever in just a matter of a year i'm
gonna tell you guys a crazy story do you guys ever hear about the o'hare airport ufo yes from you so
i i worked for american eagle's a regional airline for American Airlines from 2004 to 2006.
And then shortly after I quit, a bunch of people working at the airport saw a UFO come down from the clouds and hover in place for a few minutes and then shoot straight back up to the clouds, punching a hole in it.
Everybody at the airport saw it.
Everybody working saw it.
So I knew a bunch of people still worked there.
I had friends who worked there and they were like, dude, we saw it. It was crazy. I knew one dude who said, so there's a road
outside of O'Hare airport called Mannheim road. And my, my friend said people in their cars were
stopped like way at the light. And then when it came down from the sky, people got out of their
cars and we're just staring at it. Like just, just like watching it. This is before the era of,
you know, like the iPhone and a lot lot of smartphones some people had phone cameras and so there was a pilot who looked out his window
and he took a picture of it and the photo actually exists on you can you can pull it up it's difficult
to find because a bunch of people made fake photos yeah and it's it's it's a real bummer but
the real photo you can still find it and you can you can faintly see it the crazy thing is where
all these people that got out of their cars on Mannheim Road and just stood there staring
at this UFO? And then
they said it was a weather phenomenon.
And I knew people who worked at the airport. They were like,
dude, no way. Like it came down
and hovered and you could see it. And then
it shot, sort of punched a hole in the cloud. What was that?
Magnetic craft.
Magnetic craft. Aluminum maybe.
Lightweight, yeah, I would imagine.
Something to propel.
You're actually describing what the UFO is.
Yeah, like a fusion power source being moved around by a magnet or something.
So it's aliens.
No, it's human.
Oh.
It's Tesla tech.
Could be, yeah.
I mean, there's many people with many different beliefs.
There's religious people who are talking about demons and other kind of energetic entities out there.
There's, of course, conspiracy theorists who are saying UFOs, aliens.
There's other conspiracy theories saying that this is advanced government technology that
they're keeping away from the people.
There's many different belief systems out there.
But I think, again, we should start with the government telling us the truth and stop
classifying and hiding information from the general public.
The problem is, yeah, but Clapper lied under oath blatantly.
Yeah.
Under oath.
And they lie about everything.
Yeah.
So I have zero faith.
So what would you, yeah, like even if they did come out and say, and I think that's,
they know that, right?
They don't have to say anything.
Just show us what happened.
Yeah.
Well, that's the thing though.
Stop hiding.
Who knows what that's going to be though?
You know, the way they approach it is that they're not, I don't think they're completely
oblivious to the fact that, okay, if we say that something is going to happen,
they don't trust us enough to tell the truth.
Right.
So like,
is,
is it even if they came out with something said,
this was what it was,
it was an alien.
The,
the,
the fear is that if aliens revealed themselves to us,
the world would tear itself apart.
And I hear a lot of people who,
but hold on people in America might be able to accept it.
People in the U S might be like, wow, I guess aliens.
We can accept like lizard people.
But we already are tearing each other apart.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
What about other cultures and other countries that are way more fundamentalist and would go insane and press the nuke button and just go nuts?
I don't think that would happen.
You think everyone in the world would be like, oh, aliens are real. That's our holding hands and singing under the rainbow. No, no. I'll't think that would happen. You think everyone in the world would be like, oh, aliens are real, and start holding hands and singing under the rainbow?
No.
No? I'll tell you what would happen.
The aliens would come here, and then everyone would be in competition
to get access to that technology.
Of course.
Imagine if the aliens...
We already are.
This is why China built one of the largest kind of satellites in the world
trying to read signals from outer space.
It's a weird argument, because it's like if dogs could talk,
people would go crazy, so maybe dogs can talk. What do well i mean are you purporting that there's aliens because if
they if there were they wouldn't have revealed themselves because if aliens reveal themselves
the world will tear apart that's not that's one of the fears argument for there being aliens because
if dogs i don't know i don't know what do you what do you what does that people could fly but
they never flew you know what are you talking about i could levitate but i never have to do
with anything well you're are you making about? If I could levitate, but I never levitate. What does that have to do with anything?
Are you making the argument that there might be aliens because if they revealed themselves,
they would drive people crazy so they're not revealing themselves?
I'm saying there is a fear that if the government did tell us the truth and revealed to the
world aliens existed, it could cause international conflict.
But if the government told us that dogs could talk, it might also make international they can't what do you mean well and there's no alien what is what
is dogs talking have to do with light speed travel and and and ion cannons and you're creating like
you you're suggesting like a dog's talking your impossibility might be real no it isn't aliens
aliens visiting earth is like a 0.0000000% chance. Actually, you're totally wrong.
Do you know what Fermi's paradox is?
Give me any evidence that there might be.
Do you know what Fermi's paradox is?
The actual likelihood that intelligent life exists in the universe is substantially high.
I believe that.
And so there's questions as to why we're not encountering them.
Because they're far away. One of them is called, I think it's called the Great Zoo Hypothesis, that they treat
the Earth like a forest preserve and ignore it.
There's a bunch of theories about this.
But the mathematical probability that aliens exist and that they're substantially more
advanced than us is mathematically very high.
And so the question in Fermi's Paradox is why haven't we seen them yet?
And there's a bunch of different hypothetical answers as to why that would be.
So we don't know. So what I'm saying is
I'm not saying aliens are here.
I have no idea. We have no evidence to say that
except for the fantastic
reports of flying crazy vehicles
at O'Hare and, you know, or whatever.
But that could just be military tech, and it's substantially
more likely it is. But as I was pointing
out, one of the concerns as we're talking
about the government keeping secrets is a fear that if the world found out right now about aliens that's what
they say though that's why it's classified right because people would lose their minds do you think
they would lose their mind eric that's i think i think it goes back to culture because that's a
great point i think we you know yes we have this sort of diverse culture in America. But if when you talk to other cultures about, you know, no matter pockets of Africa and like that, see the world just fundamentally different than what it is that we do.
I think that they would react in a different way.
I think a lot of Americans come to turn. I think it'd be a lot more curiosity, curiosity than anything, because at that point, it's like if we get a confirmation of something that we we assumed that we've seen all it's embedded
in our culture aliens right we got movies movies and x-files yeah yeah yeah show tv shows like it's
this assumption that well we have this assumption in how they look hell they might look like us who
knows uh uh how exactly they will look but we have all of these theories but i think a
lot of americans assume that that's a thing now would they rip each other apart is an interesting
question but i think that it would be more than anything if there was a motion it would be more
so a curiosity because it's like if you confirmed right now let's say if the government said all
right we ain't got like trump on his way out scorch earth say y'all y'all y'all y'all i'm not gonna be the president bet bam here's the
proof right here here's a video here's a video here's a here's a here's a and matter of fact
and it's trump giving thumbs up yeah yeah like and it's like all 4k hd and everything you can't
they're eating mcdonald's yeah it's as advanced as you can possibly get
i think at that point i know at least speaking on i'd be like just curious like more than anything
i wouldn't want to fight my neighbor yeah what do you think would happen if a video came out of
trump hanging out with aliens china would go nuts china would declare war or something that's a good
and that's i think that's where it goes back to the culture because it's like at that point it's
like oh wow they have access to this advanced sort of.
Oh, they're getting hooked up. Right. Oh, my God. This is the real thing.
So so who knows, man? That's a good point.
According to these two high level government officials, the Canadian and Israeli one, the aliens are the ones that are specifically stopping nuclear Armageddon.
That's according to, again, the former head of israeli space program the
canadian minister of defense and he's saying that the humans are not ready for them but the aliens
are here preventing a larger conflict from expanding i was watching some crazy thing about
orangutans fishing and stuff you know okay like we're like we're we're we're more technologically
advanced than they are watching them do these things like there could come to a certain point where we see animals fighting in such a way that we would stop them.
We would be like, man, this is crazy.
Imagine if we were watching, you know, it's a thousand years in the future, and we're flying around with teleport packs and jet packs, and then the orangutans now have nukes.
Yeah, we'd probably stop them.
You know what I mean?
We'd be like, dude, you're going to blow everything up.
Chill.
What are you doing?
Y'all are too advanced.
So the aliens would come back, and you're like, dude, you're going to blow everything up. Chill. What are you doing? Y'all are too advanced. So the aliens would come back and you're saying like if you.
What I'm saying is it makes sense that aliens would stop us from blowing ourselves up.
I got you.
Because we'd be screwing everything up.
You know, there's very there's a relatively small amount of planets that sustain life
and are in this position.
Assuming that they were here, which is a grand assumption.
I don't think that they're here.
That has nothing to do with what I just said.
I said it would make sense that an advanced species would stop a lower.
It wouldn't make sense that there is an advanced species here that okay so
anyway my point which what you're what you're saying has nothing to do with my point is that
it makes sense for human beings to stop less advanced races from blowing themselves up with
bombs like if you saw a bunch of orangutans playing with dynamite you'd probably be like
we all we gotta stop though that's crazy and you'd probably stop them by any means necessary because you got a bunch of you know chimps and monkeys playing
with explosives you would stop sometimes but when monkeys hunt themselves in the woods you don't
yeah because they're not playing with dynamite and tnt oh you think if they were like you ever
seen that video of the chip with the ak-47 you ever see that one the yeah it was cgi yeah yeah
like if you saw like a like an orangutan or a chimp pick up an
ar or something you'd be like oh stop you take it from it so that that that idea is interesting it
makes sense that a sufficiently advanced species or or creature would stop a uh less developed
from playing with crazy explosives i always think like though like what why do you think and i ask you i've asked all
of you guys why do we think that the assumption is that they are if they are to exist they're
more technologically advanced than us well but no no but it's all insanity it's that if any uh
alien species is advanced enough to come here then they will be more advanced than us okay to
to such an extreme degree that a lot of people need to understand a couple things like do you can you communicate with an ant not really i mean we
can play with the pheromones and make them walk in lines and stuff but you can't exchange meaningful
ideas with them we can kind of understand what they do and why they do it after being studied
but it you know one of the things i was watching this crazy documentary talking about alien life
and the components for life and the misconceptions people have about aliens coming here and walking around like they
wouldn't even survive in our atmosphere like by all mathematical calculations about the variety
of elements we know of they could have to exist in some kind of weird methane atmosphere or
something but even if they did come here it's like the level of advancement from a species
you know able to travel you know well beyond our understanding
in all likelihood would either be substantially more advanced than we are okay and that would
be like you trying to explain to an ant how a highway works but do you think like on let's say
other planets and whatnot like that there are lesser advanced beings that are there now you
definitely i think i think the obvious like i think obviously you look at the oceans of earth
humans are incredibly lucky when it comes to creating computers and cameras.
Like, if we...
Look at dolphins, man.
They're smart, right?
But they don't have thumbs.
So they can't do anything.
Not only that, imagine if dolphins had arms.
How are they going to start a fire to actually separate elements and create wires and components?
They can't do it underwater.
So even dolphins, octopuses,
you know, they got,
they can manipulate stuff.
They got, you know,
but they can't do anything
because they're underwater.
I guess theoretically,
they're like a lava vent
and like, you know,
hold something close to try
and separate the iron out of the rock
or something like that.
But we get fire.
We melt down, you know, a rock,
you know, we can separate the elements
and then we can slowly from there
start doing crazy things.
I guess there's probably
different chemical reactions that could happen underwater I guess there's probably different chemical reactions
that could happen underwater,
but there's probably planets with water on it
where you've got intelligent beings
that just live underwater and can't do anything.
Can't build a spaceship and can't leave.
There's actually, what's, is it Titan?
Triton?
What's the name of the moon?
Triton.
Triton?
Triton, I think, yeah.
Is that Saturn or Jupiter?
Jupiter?
Saturn's moon is Titan, isn't it?
Titan? Yeah. There's like one Titan, isn't it? Titan?
Yeah.
There's like one of these moons they think could actually have liquid water because the gravitational pull of the planet, I don't know if it's Saturn or Jupiter, is like causing it to stretch back and forth, which creates friction, which then creates liquid water.
And they said there could be life because where there's liquid water, there tends to be life.
But even if it was intelligent, what's it going to do?
Break through the crust and then fly in outer space it wouldn't be able to do
it so it's just there right so there's probably a lot of intelligent alien life that doesn't have
the ability to create tools and you know do anything like that there's a lot of probabilities
here but there's there's one constant the government lies yeah that's the moral of the
story that is government lies and with that we'll go to Super Chat. Yes!
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Actually, I like to go back to the earlier,
make sure I get everybody, but here's a really good Super Chat.
Daniel Urie says,
What religion and economic model will the aliens follow?
What if they're like the Ferengi
and they're like hardcore capitalists?
You guys ever watch Star Trek Next Generation? Yeah.
Man, they did really, really
great writing with philosophy
and the consequence of technological advancement.
For those that aren't familiar, the Ferengi
are aliens that bought
their way into interstellar
travel. Whereas most of the species
developed it through science, they
were like merchants
who met an alien species that had
warp drive and said, we'll buy it off you.
Enterprise, baby. Yeah.
Raising living standards, huh? Yeah.
I love how the left calls it space
communism. It's literally not that.
I got
an argument about it, and they were like,
you know, no one wants for anything.
And I was like, dude, people have prime real estate on the beach.
There's like they actually show scenes where people have houses on the on the on the waterfront in San Francisco.
Like, is that just you want it in the lottery?
No, people of merit get it.
Anyway, I digress.
Let's see.
Daniel J.
Korica says divided.
We fall.
If as a nation, we don't come back together, we will fall.
I mean, yes, if the country breaks apart, then it falls because it literally broke apart.
But I think individual states could thrive.
Absolutely.
I mean, we accept this idea that states are way smaller than or countries way smaller than the U.S. can thrive.
So why couldn't individual states thrive so i'm nervous that we're being made
useful idiots that when we talk about because i agree that if we if we become divided we're
it's over and it when we talk about the left and the right i think that that idea is being
seeded into us from it's insidious to think that it's china the chinese communist party using the
internet to make us get more clicks and likes when we use those phrases because the diversity, the divert, you know, it's, but people like drama. And so they're drawn to this, like, easy to visualize paradigm. But I think that it's, it's so dangerous. Like Mao used rightists as his primary focus of who he went after in the Chinese cultural revolution. They were called rightists.
He was talking about people on the right,
and he used that to rally the country to violence.
So I don't want to use those phrases anymore.
I would say right offhand that it is just a useful kind of shorthand
to keep track of who's who, and we do have that useful spectrum.
All right, let's see.
Let's read some more of these super chats.
Joel says, taxation is theft
and listen to back words.
Oh yeah. Appreciate the love. Appreciate
that. Dan Saw F says,
Tim, Tannerite is really easy to make.
It takes some ice packs and some
aluminum powder and you can buy it
on Amazon for less than 40 doll hairs.
So what is that? Do you guys know what that is?
Tannerite? Things that go boom. Oh, that's awesome. I don't know if you want to be sharing all that. on Amazon for less than 40 doll hairs. So what is that? Do you guys know what that is?
Things that go boom.
Oh, that's awful.
I don't know if you want to just be sharing all that.
Good to know.
If YouTube allows someone
to super chat that,
they ban a whole bunch of words.
You want to allow that?
Thor O says,
Dim fool,
please be in DC on the 6th.
America needs you now more than ever.
I know you're a milk toast fence hitter,
but this is not about left versus right.
It's about we the people.
We need you.
Well, I mean, look, if we go down to DC and we do a show and we interview people who are there and they'll speak and then they'll come up to our hotel or whatever and we'll talk to them.
That could be more effective than being further away.
I think the worst case scenarios will be close enough to DC to get like a post interview with some prominent people.
But there's a bunch of combination of
factors the internet's got to work we got to have the system set up and tested and then there's
security issues which are very serious i'm for it so we'll see what happens i'm i'm hearing i i don't
even know if i should say this but i should probably say as a warning i'm hearing people
are going armed and the problem is you can't bring guns into dc but i've i've i've seen posts on the
internet where people are talking about they don't care.
Because if 10 million people show up, they're like, that's bad, man.
That's when things get crazy.
I got mixed feelings about it.
I got negative feelings about it.
Yeah, I'm starting to question if we should do this.
Well, what's the purpose of being there, of going there and making a physical presence?
Is it just causing more stress than it needs to be?
I'm not going there to do anything political. I'm going there to do a show
to talk to people who are there and ask them why they're doing it.
Being able to report
on the ground and see exactly what's happening
away from the spin, away from the
editorializing is key and
important. So that to me
is why it's important to go. Trump has put out
multiple tweets. Be there.
I'll see you there. It's going to be wild.
And then people are talking about bringing tents and and and and you know look an occupy non-non-violent disobedience i think is
great if everybody just you know open their businesses or whatever then we'd all just carry
on everything would be fine but there are a lot of people like i said they're getting desperate
they got nothing left to lose and that's when it gets scary so i don't know what's gonna happen
man but i'm hearing i'm hearing scary stuff that's why i said security is a very serious
issue you know that might not be a good idea to go down there for everybody else who wants to
protest i can't look you have your first amendment rights to go and protest but when i'm hearing a
lot of stuff antifa is going to get down there it's going to get spicy whatever it gets worrying
man all right let's see jonathan westcott says hey tim black votes matter is running ads here
in georgia saying they'll be running raffles for people who show up to vote straight up admitting All right, let's see. Jonathan Westcott says, hey, Tim, Black Votes Matter is running ads here in Georgia saying
they'll be running raffles for people who show up to vote.
Straight up admitting it now because they think no one will call them out.
Man, that's crazy.
Black Magic says government is just a social construct for when a group of people wish
to band together to perform immoral actions while justifying those actions as morally
good.
Changed my mind.
What's the smallest form of government?
Tribal government?
Non-existent one. The family? No, no that's a good point probably the individual and uh no the
individual isn't a government you can just act on your own but when you have a group of people
who agree on certain terms and someone's in charge maybe the family is the smallest form
of possible government family's not a bad thing they're certain that government is not like you can't just say government is bad as a blanket
term what we have in the united states we got a serious problem yeah too much federal government
i think yes i mean even local governments are crooked it's like it's hard to scale up properly
corruption just becomes a part of the system so I don't know how you solve for that problem. But like, look, a tribal, you know, a group of hippies on a farm probably got a form
of government that works just fine. You know, they're, they're, they're, they have rules.
If you violate the rules, there's some kind of punishment. You're off the farm. You're leaving.
You can't work. You can't live here anymore. You know, oh, exile. But it gets really difficult
when you can't go anywhere.
Like the United States is controlled entirely by the federal government.
So it's like if you break one law in one place, there's no, like you get locked in a box.
And so it's, I think exile is actually preferable to imprisonment.
But you can't do it because people have nowhere to go.
Did you see Spain as putting people on lists?
I know this is a bit of a...
Oh, if they don't wear masks.
Yeah.
Or if they don't get the vaccine, I think. Yeah, if they don't get the vaccine i think yeah they're yeah they don't get the vaccine
all right let's see sterling jennings says when anyone youtuber right-leaning thought leader is
asked if they would run for office or a movement they always say no but i would support someone
doing it how is anything going to get done if the if the people who have influence defer to others
that's a really good point uh because you know i wouldn't want
to be in office i don't keep their awful do you luke i would hate myself that's the politician
you look at these democrats they want power and they'll take it and you look at the republicans
too but the listen the republicans aren't arguing behalf of what republic what the voters actually
want that's just a fact, you never want to give power
to someone who's hungry for it.
You always want to give it
to someone that doesn't want it.
Yeah.
I would love to take it
and then make the system
so that when we're gone,
they don't need us anymore.
Well, the problem is
I don't think I know
what's better for someone else.
I can't make that determination
and this is why I don't want
to be a ruler over someone. You'd be a good ruler because of that. Yeah, why I don't want to be a ruler over someone.
You'd be a good ruler because of that.
Yeah, but how are you going to be a ruler?
That's the conundrum, right?
Defer to your subservience.
That's the conundrum.
How can you be a ruler without being a ruler is just by being an example.
That's why I've been preaching and talking about decentralization and personal responsibility. If we have enough individuals that are responsible for each other, we
won't need government
to interact and inject
itself when it's not needed.
That to me is the key, and that to me
is a lot better than me becoming your overlord
telling you what to do.
Nuke the Icecap says,
What I do enjoy about the obvious overreach of authority.
Left and right are looking at each
other from a different angle.
Yeah, we want the divorce, but these politicians are rightly worried.
The thing they fear the most is staring them in the face.
Interesting.
Justin Bowman says, I wasn't big into politics until my games, comics, shows, and movies became politicized.
But in some ways, I'm glad it happened or else I'd be just another consumer.
By the way, Tim, it's pronounced Bookman.
Oh, okay.
I winced when you read my name,
when you read my chat yesterday.
Hi, Ian, Luke, and Lids.
Be safe.
Bookman.
What up, Bookman?
Bookman.
Rye Chaser says,
Eric, I'm worried about the future
of the entertainment industry.
I'm currently in film school,
and when we pitch our film ideas,
everyone only talks about how diverse
and political their film will be.
Oh, my God, man.
I know, man.
It's like, for those of you guys who aren't like comic book guys it's it's rough right now like not just in
the but you see it happening in the shows it's over emphasis of diversity so you have this
tokenization of all these characters classically white characters they want a black version they
want a uh a gender neutral version but it's even worse in the books.
Like we're getting gender neutral flash.
Yes, that's about to be a thing.
Yes, gender neutral flash is about to be a thing.
All sorts of weird things.
Does he flash his gender?
I mean, his genitalia changes it.
Why are they doing that?
Well, they are trying to appeal to people that don't buy books
right it's these writers are cocky i think y'all for those of y'all that follow me on twitter you
see me go back and forth these guys these guys are narcissistic and they're and they're cocky
they're not even in the business anymore of trying to sell books or try to make something
for a consumer that was the difference between comic books now even the ones that they say were
political it's that they were maxed it was it was balanced and that it was it was maxed enough um to where it
wasn't overtly political like only when it was like going at hitler and stuff like that american
right the most politicized yeah right but if people forget like when people always talk about
hitler right but forget what captain america when he started, prior to that, he was beating up Nazis.
But before that, he was beating up communists.
He used to be called the Commie Smasher.
People forget all about that.
But no, it was way more balanced, whereas now people are writing books, doing shows.
They're trying to lecture the audience, right?
It's about trying to make sure that you
agree with them socially. So they got to tell their story that comes second. Right. The actual
story, it doesn't even have to make sense for them. It's about what kind of social spin can
we put on this? Can we focus on racial matters? Can we focus on so other social matters and try
to beat you over the head with that as opposed to making something that not only appeals to that market,
but can appeal to even a wider demographic of people?
Because why? Like my character, like my favorite comic book character as an adult is Batman.
I couldn't be further from Batman. Batman's white and he's rich.
I am neither. But I love him. Batman's white and he's rich. I am neither of those. But I love him, right?
There's attributes and traits that he has.
Like Flash was my favorite character growing up.
It's a track athlete.
Yeah.
So that was why I connect.
My mother gave me,
that was one of the first books that I read
back in the 90s, Flashbook.
You ever see Static Shock?
Yes.
That was diversity done right.
Yeah, it was an authentic, new, original character.
And I don't know any comic book fan that's like, they don't want that.
What they don't want is a black version of this character that I always know.
We want originality.
This is why we like Luke Cage.
This is why we like Static, which is why we like Storm, Bishop.
We like these characters because they're original, right?
That's what we want, originality.
But they're in the interest of-
Recycling.
Yes. Hand-me-down heroes. Hand-me-down characters. That's exactly what it is. Yep. That's what we want, originality. But they're in the interest of- Recycling. Hand-me-down heroes.
Hand-me-down characters.
That's exactly what it is.
Yep.
That's what always makes me like, isn't that more offensive?
Absolutely.
Instead of saying, we're going to write original, compelling stories for a larger audience,
they're like, we'll just give you the old ones we don't use anymore.
Yep.
That's it.
We'll just recycle them.
They have the same symbol, suit, and everything.
Now the guy just is all of a sudden a homosexual.
I did like Into the Spider-Verse, Miles Morales.
Well, my thing about – I hate Miles, by the way.
No, I hate Miles.
I hate Miles.
I hate him in the books.
I hate him.
He's just like – and I come from a different perspective, right,
because I'm a book reader.
And Miles Morales, he's been around for a while now.
He's just a re-scanned Peter Parker.
There is absolutely nothing from
his character we've seen over the long years of peter parker being young being uh uh we've we've
seen all of that from him there's little quirky kind of comments and what he all of that stuff is
what we've seen out of that what i more so appreciate is when they try to make a a more so
uh newer character d DC creates Naomi or
Silencer or something like that, original black
character or something like that. That's what I
value. I'm not necessarily in the interest
of taking a historically white male
character and saying, we'll just
race champ. But now they're making
those, what was that Dora the Explorer
superhero? You know that one?
Yeah, yeah. Marvel did it. I think it was Marvel
that did it. Yeah, she's fat. The gender neutral non-binary brother and sister whatever oh snowflake in uh yeah safe space safe
space new mutants right yeah yeah new warriors new warriors but then you had dora the explorer
yeah like it was a fat latina chick with a backpack that has like all this space in it
to pull out random stuff like literally it was dora it was like the weirdest thing ever
and they end up not putting it out thank god. And they ended up not putting it out.
Thank God.
Oh,
they did.
They did.
They ended up not putting it.
That was so bad to where they were like,
they were like,
okay,
guys,
these are the new,
new warriors.
Yeah.
There was a new war.
It was basically a new one.
So now,
so you're talking about all those original new warriors kind of were being put to the,
they were there in the background,
but it was about these new characters,
safe space and,
and all these weird guys.
Could create barriers or whatever.
It was one of the worst.
That's one of the worst examples.
The worst examples.
That was terrible.
A higher super group of them.
I think if you look back at the creation of a lot of the comics and superheroes, these ideas were original.
The Hulk.
Absolutely.
If he gets angry, he turns into a giant monster.
It was nothing like it before.
And that's why people were so attracted to it. everything's recycled they were vegetated yep you know rob
leafield started to do no no offense rob if you're listening i thought cable i loved cable in the 90s
but man he was a trash character he didn't do anything he was a cybernetic he had he had mental
powers like travel through time oh apparently he could travel through time well no technology they
could do that he had a cybernetic arm.
And then that whole Rob Liefeld would recycle.
Every group had a wolfman in it.
And then they made Brigade for Image Comics.
And it was like every group had a guy like this, a woman, a wolfman, a big guy in the background.
We need some original superpowers.
Everything feels generic.
Yeah, and it's not like everything.
There's a lot of creative people there are a lot of original comic book guys that
have kind of deviated from uh uh former dc kind of have them on my show all the time for my guys
that were writers of dc and marvel that are creating the original characters uh and that's
what i think we need and the world's ripe right now for it right now i think more than ever before
maybe not so much but right now they are so bad for those those that don't keep up with books when i say they are the like comic
books are the worst that they have ever been like like like when i talk about content why they are
the worst that they have ever bought for both mainstream comics and dc and marvel they don't
sell um and there's a reason why they don't sell they're insulting their fans they're insulting
the people that are longtime readers for these.
Again, it's about lecturing the audiences more so.
What about manga, though?
Do you read manga?
No, everybody keeps telling me that's where it's at.
It's actually, in some cases, starting to sell more even in America.
Yeah, because it's legit.
I mean, I haven't kept up with any recent manga for the most part,
but I read all of Naruto and Shippuden and Death Note.
And there's a bunch of other stuff, obviously Bleach.
Those are kind of obvious, but that was a long time ago I was reading all those.
They were just better stories.
And they don't worry about that.
And it's interesting, right?
They can write original female characters, right?
They don't have to be rehashed versions of a male character.
They do that so well. Youashed versions of a male character.
They do that so well.
You see that in anime as well.
So that's why I can't,
this whole world,
all the ideas have been done and I'm like,
have you watched an anime yet?
But their powers are unique and weird.
Unique, exactly, yeah.
Like, how weird was it?
I don't know,
you've not seen any anime
or anything like that?
I've watched anime.
You watch Naruto?
Yes.
It was the weirdest thing
watching Sasuke have hands grow out of his back. Yeah. it's like if i was not familiar it's like it's one
of it's a ninja and then he gets his power and like hands and fingers right of his body it's
the weirdest thing ever but i'm like at least it's original man yeah no that's what comics in the u.s
have become generic yeah there's the same rehash and this is why i can't let them make it because
you do see examples of that manga anime where the Japanese are able to make original characters, original concepts that we have never seen before that just knock it out the park.
One Punch Man.
Yes.
Yes.
Amazing.
Yes.
It's another one.
They're new.
They're like, these are things that have come out within the last decade, right?
And it's not coming out here.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And then you also have My Hero Academia.
Attack on Titan.
Yeah. Another one. like all these newer content these are things that have happened within
like recent recent uh recent years and they knock it out the park it's because they know what they're
doing and they're writing stories for their consumers uh that will appeal to them whereas
to america is dr west is or more so like you know my my
hero academia is about superheroes yeah and i'm like it's really interesting to see an anime about
superheroes and they're doing superheroes better than america's doing what you think we would you
think we'd be the mecca of that but it's not like the talent isn't there man yeah that's what go bro
yes every time you know what i'd like to see? We were conceptualizing this with Desmond Meeks and Philip Wainwright, a couple of my friends,
while we were talking about stories based on a piece of technology, like a piece of advanced technology.
And it follows the tech, like the gun or whatever.
And it keeps getting regular people will carry it and you'll follow their story while they have it.
And when they get killed or whatever, they lose it.
You follow the tech to the next person and so maybe there could be an entire genre of comics where there are no super
humans but there's just super tech are you going to write a comic about the adventures of super
male vitality yeah yeah we'll start with super male vitality you can get it in fours.com no no
people were like michael malice left it here and now it's a joke i'm about to end it actually and
people are going to start buying it like crazy, and Alex is going to make so much money
because we're making fun of it.
The genre is called space punk.
Okay.
That's a real thing, though.
I don't know if it's been invented yet, has it?
Yeah.
That's Philip Wainwright's idea, I believe.
Space punk.
Yeah.
And if you're working on it, Phil, sorry that I loaded it.
But yeah, let's make some comics.
Let's read some more Super Chats.
Razgriz says,
Proud Wyomingite here.
They can try and ban guns here.
In 2012, we were looking at
buying an aircraft carrier
and making it a felony
for federal agents
to enforce gun control.
We will do it again.
I mean, yeah, well,
why didn't they pass that law?
Sounds great.
It's my kind of party.
All right, let's see.
Augustine Urive says,
Damn it, forgot you were live streaming same time I was, LOL,
as if it's any consolation for anyone.
Here in Texas, they say everything is closed down,
but the reality is everything is still open and nobody gives a hoot.
So happy I left California.
Yeah, man.
I don't know if Texas is the right call because too many people are moving to Texas.
Well, yeah, but they're going, this is what I say about Texas,
is they're going to don't worry
too much it's like the whole all right texas is going to turn blue the reason i and obviously it
ended up being a big dud they're going to the places that are already blue first of all it was
actually not that long ago where texas was dealing with uh you know we had blue senators democrat
senator that was not a thing that happened not it was not that long ago let's say that but they're posting up in austin dallas houston san antonio those spots
are already blue so my i know i don't want them coming here and running everything into the ground
if they're at minimum posting up like in austin that doesn't gain them anything because they're
in austin like that's already blue it's when they go everywhere else that is the problem michael holder says the problem with the freedom society
versus dominatrix society is that the control freaks desire to control never stops at their
own borders china it would only be a matter of time before the authoritarians would start
oppressing the free staters but that's what's happening right and but that's the that's the
thing and that's why a lot of people are scared of like secession there is like secession is an anti-defense it's not it's not
anti-working together right a community or this concept of of of militias that's not what it's
about so just because we say you can't rule over us does not mean that okay if we go to war we
won't have each other's back or something something like that that already happens right now like we we we have these these sort of
agreements with other now some of them are crooked but you get this idea that okay like we we like
what it is that you do to to some extent so if said country tries to come take us over we got
each other's back that can still happen it's just like we're just saying like you don't get the rule
over but think about it this way we have an alliance we have nato you know what i'm saying
you know so it's the same concept and and france doesn't dictate what we do in new york yeah
exactly it's the same concept yeah i mean we could still have mutual defense and i think people
forget that the people who usually want to be left alone usually the people who are armed and are
more able to defend themselves than the small
people who like to be dominated and love dominators the united states of canada and jesus land
i could be um convinced but i'm very hesitant about this idea of a peaceful divorce i think
that if if we try to secede one the that the american government would invade immediately
like they did in the civil war
uh they call it the war of american aggression right whatever but i think that was most likely
to happen when it happened but now with the advancement of technology um and how you know
the the the weaponry is so it's advanced enough for us to be able to hold our own and i don't
believe like we're just going to get overtaken when we saw what happened with the rice farmers.
There's five billion guns in the United States alone.
My other worry would be that the Chinese government
would invade the seceded union,
and then the United States would also invade to defend it,
and it would become a proxy war,
and then it would be leveled.
Well, the red states have their own military bases
and National Guard. What heed. Well, the red states have their own military bases and National Guard.
What he is saying is that
the Chinese government would influence the
dominatrix side. And I would say
that already has happened.
I'm saying that they would invade the secessionist
the freedom side. They're not
engaging in third generational warfare.
That's what I was just about to say.
China would just take control of the dominatrix
society because of their...
Interesting.
So they would fund the secession.
They would arm the secession.
You'd get this foreign influence on the arming of the...
That's what we did in Vietnam.
They're doing it.
China absolutely is influencing American politics in a bunch of negative ways.
Oh, that would be the best thing in the world for China if the Americans split apart.
I mean, depending on what you want from the world,
it might be a good thing for you.
If the Chinese Communist Party would become the most powerful force on the earth
if the United States split apart.
Well, they already are going to do that
under a Biden presidency.
Exactly.
I hope not.
They will.
They're doing beaching drills for Taiwan.
You think Joe Biden's going to do anything about that?
Joe Biden's main advisors are talking about
how a bigger, growing China
is great for the global economy.
And they're investing in that country. And they're enforcing laws and deals. Your main advisors are talking about how a bigger, growing China is great for the global economy. How do we defend against it?
And they're investing in that country.
And they're enforcing laws and deals.
Walmart is investing into Wuhan as we're speaking right now.
How would we defend against it?
But that's why I'm saying if you break up, I mean, I don't think people understand the vast amounts of gun laws at the federal level that exist right now.
Yeah.
Right? vast amounts of gun laws at the federal level that exist right now. Yeah.
Right?
I think if that was broken up, you'd see more people wanting not only to,
from a creation standpoint, but wanting to invest in that sort of weaponry that would have them ready to rock.
Right?
Like, I'm talking what you consider more these automatic weapons and stuff
that they consider machine guns, tanks, which you know depending on where yeah you
kind of can get that sort of stuff but we'd be more inclined to invest in that certainly if they
got the hell out of the way i think the biggest myth is that we need them to to to protect us when
we as individuals could invest in ourselves but that's why they want the dependency so we get to
thinking like that that's exactly what they want it's like well you the dependency. So we get to thinking like that. That's exactly what they want. It's like, well, you need us because if we get away from you, then, oh, everything's going to fall apart.
And I just simply disagree.
I do not agree that that is the inevitable thing.
I just don't.
They're dominatrices that don't know a safe word.
Yes.
Impulse 818 says, hi, Tim.
How come you haven't mentioned at all the war criminals that Trump pardoned last week?
Yep.
Hasn't come up, but it came up now.
So I think it was bad.
I think it was wrong.
But, you know, Obama pardoned a bunch of crazy people and blew people up.
So I think for me, it's like I didn't spend four years wearing a MAGA hat, waving a Trump
flag.
I was, you know, fairly critical.
And I think the media was just insane on Trump.
So put me in this position where it's like, dude, I can say it's bad that Trump did these
things with missile strikes in Syria, criticized him for it. John Bolton, we bring up
all the time, the commando raids in Yemen, the death of, it was an eight-year-old American girl
that was killed in a raid ordered by Trump. These bad things all happened. So it was related to
Anwar al-Awlaki. Right, right. Exactly. So there's a sister. So the other sister was, was killed by
Trump has done a ton of bad stuff and over the past
couple of years it's been getting better trump pardons people and he does a bunch of a big wave
of pardons and i mean you know i think it's bad who did he pardon it was a blackwater people right
yeah he pardoned a bunch of blackwater mercenaries that were responsible for an estimated 17 deaths
of innocent civilians they They were found guilty
and were serving a pretty severe sentence.
And this is kind of a slap.
When did they go to prison?
I don't know the exact details of exactly.
Let's pull that up if we can
and look up the details here
because I think that's pretty important here.
But to me, this symbolically
is a big slap in the face of Julian Assange,
of WikiLeaks, of Chelsea Manning,
and all the other individuals who want accountability for Edward Snowden,
who want accountability for the war crimes that the United States has sometimes committed.
Now, again, we have to see this through the rule of law,
and a court found these people guilty of ending 17 innocent people's lives,
and that's a big severe crime And that's a big severe crime.
That's a big severe implication
that Trump is saying it's A-OK for him,
which is a little daunting.
It was 2007, so this was under Bush.
Yeah, these people are nasty dudes, man.
And there's a lot of really messed up stuff.
America should not be over there.
Yeah, well, he's also friends with the head of,
you know, the former Blackwater,
now it's named something else.
Yeah, Eric Prince.
So it doesn't make him look good, in my opinion.
Scott says, Tim, I've heard you give the best summary of the non-aggression principle of anyone who rejects its universal moral applications.
Why do you reject it?
How do I reject it?
Do you believe in a non-aggression principle?
Define the non-aggression principle.
You defined it better than me, according to that super chat.
Well, that's why I'm saying
I don't understand how I would judge it.
So let me hear what you have to say
and I'll tell you what I think.
Well, non-aggression principle
is just the basic principle
that you believe that ideas
shouldn't be forced onto people.
There shouldn't be any aggression
forcing someone to do something
that they don't want to do.
That there shouldn't be force
and extortion used
to push a certain idea, right?
And being initiatory, that being the most important point, right?
So there's a couple ways to look at it.
If we're talking about violence and harm, whether or force against another person, be
it physical or coercive, well, yeah, don't pick a fight with somebody, don't mess with
other people and let live and let live.
If you want to talk about a government system and you've got a big city like New York that's
been around for hundreds of years, well, now we've got a very much more difficult and complicated
question.
Yeah, but that's and that's what I always been the more I think the misunderstanding
of the nap is that it's like this sort of end all right.
And that's not what it is.
What it does is it's just fundamentally understanding what the principle is that we want to uphold. And that is that the,
that it is absolutely wrong to initiate a force upon someone else.
So if you're not being threatened,
if you're not having someone hit on you,
and I think most people can agree with that.
The straw man come is in and they say,
well,
what about this instance in this instance?
And I'm like,
yeah,
I get that.
There's a questions that we can come up with as to the nap.
Never pretend it to be like the end all or that if it exists and nobody's going to commit.
No, it's in fact, you know, we look up the Robin Murphys of the world.
We talk about privatized law for that reason.
Nothing is perfect, but you have a reduction of harm under the nap principle, which pretty much asserts the rights of individuals
not to get aggressed upon. A lot of people are commenting, saying the Blackwater guys were
convicted for political convenience based on weak and inconsistent evidence. That was from
Amenti. JM says Obama made villains out of the Blackwater guards for political purposes.
The media didn't start lying in 2016. AM says they did not kill 17. The government made all
that crap up and paid iraqis
to lie because obama wanted out of iraq and had a vendetta against blackwater i don't know though
he didn't get us out of iraq yeah he kept the soldiers there and in afghanistan and i mean
you're making a claim there i mean i will say that i will legitimately look at it but i haven't seen
any evidence but again i'm not perfect i'm not right. If you think I'm wrong on that issue, please send me some evidence so I could
look at it. You could message me on Twitter, Luke, we are change. And then I would love to
see any evidence you guys have. And of course, I will change my opinion based upon that.
Regarding non-aggression, what do you guys think about forcing aggression on people that litter?
Well, that's why we want a private ownership right so if that
person owns that particular uh land or groups of people right if they um homestead it which would
be the way that they owned it or if it was a transfer of ownership by way of purchasing it
or being it the land being given um yeah like that there's a case to be made that that isn't
that is absolute because you're violating the private property. That's what aggression is, right?
That's essentially breaking it down is the violation of the, you know, the private property,
right?
Be it in land, be it in owner, self ownership.
So I, you punched me in the face.
That's an act of aggression, but the same can be said for a contract violation, um,
or something or something like that.
I think aggression in a libertarian sense, which is a good question, by the way, and
a libertarian sense is also like very misunderstood. I know Luke, you had something like that. I think aggression in a libertarian sense, which is a good question, by the way, in a libertarian sense is also like very misunderstood. I know, Luke, you had something
on it. Well, again, if you're living in a society where everyone is responsible for themselves,
you're not going to want to go around causing troubles for people, right? A lot of people don't
want trouble. A lot of people just want to be left alone. A lot of people just want to work.
A lot of people just want to live their lives and be happy. So if there are, nothing's perfect. Nothing, again, is 100% full proof.
And libertarianism doesn't pretend that it is.
Yeah. Definitely by its candidates.
It makes me think of family life and how kids won't clean their room unless they're forced to.
Like, I would never clean my room unless my parents were like, you're going to clean your
room. It's dangerous. You're going to trip over trash trying to get out if there's a fire.
Clean your room. And in society, people will just throw banana peels on the ground
if there's no if there's no recourse well i mean well that's the thing though if there is
there's absolutely a case to be made if i have private property i own said thing and you just
go in there and start dumping stuff on it what about city streets city streets i mean that's
the same thing those should be privately owned. By who?
Whoever wants to
make whoever provided it to service.
What if they want to shut off access
to you? What if they did?
And what? And then someone else could
build a road. Well, I mean,
that would take time. Yes, it would.
But what's the incentive
for them to do that? Like, I know we're talking
about vindication. What if you angered
them in a deal that... And they just shut
off the road. Hold on. Hold on.
I gotta make a ref call.
What if the police block a street and say,
shove off?
That happens now. They do that all the time.
Or you can't go here if you don't have a mask.
The cops in New York created something called the
Frozen Zone. It happens now. It was just made up.
They used it against me. You can't come on the street.
It's frozen.
You're like, what does that mean?
I just want to know what the incentive is.
I know a lot of people talk about morodes,
but I'm like, and they go to these extremes,
and I'm like, what's the incentive there?
Like, it's always, what if this happens?
And I'm like, human beings don't operate like that.
We use Vanderbilt.
It's a purposeful action.
Use Vanderbilt as an example,
because he owned the railroads going into New York City.
And he decided he didn't like the way they were treating him.
So he cut off access to New York City.
And he starved the city out.
And they realized we can't let a guy own the railroad anymore.
That is, I don't have that recollection of the railroad system.
There's antitrust laws for a reason because people were doing stuff like that.
But they're not used, especially with big tech. They're abused now. No, it's not even that. Hold on, hold on. There's antitrust laws for a reason because people were doing stuff like that. But they're not used, especially with big tech.
They're abused now.
Well, no, it's not even that.
Hold on, hold on.
Let's stop.
Let's backtrack.
Let's talk about the railroads, though.
Was the state involved?
All right, so how much of the railroads?
I'm assuming that you're familiar with the story.
How much of the railroads did that man own?
He owned, as far as I know, he owned the railroads.
He owned it. He built it. All right, he owned all of the railroads did that man own he owned as far as i know he owned the rail he owned all of the all right he he he owned all of the all of the railroads do you are you familiar
with like because again i'm and i'm not asking this sarcastically i genuinely want to know
what was the scenario in which had him have where that one individual controlled all of the railroads
i would have to i i i want to know that because I have a hard time believing that one person on the railroad and there was no state involvement.
I have absolutely I don't believe that that was the case.
I just cannot believe that because that has virtually never happened anywhere.
It didn't happen with Bill, which is the closest thing that we can point to in America when we talk about actual monopolization.
And it didn't happen with the bail monopoly,
so I don't understand why when we talk about these instances, I want to know where that
came from. I'm very curious. Well, another thing we have to realize is humans have an initiative
to be cooperative with each other. They have an initiative to work with each other and to be
in a way where they are able to work problems out with each other without, of course, using
force, because when you use force, everyone loses.
So I see a huge reduction of harm.
It's not going to be perfect.
Some people are going to get hurt.
We don't pretend like it won't happen.
You can act like you're a communist and everything's going to be solved overnight, but it's surely
going to be way better than the system that we have now.
And it goes back to what we were talking about earlier.
Even if I don't or anybody in this room
doesn't have the answer,
it doesn't mean someone else won't.
Here's some info.
Vanderbilt was a shipping guy. He made his fortune
in shipping.
In the 1850s, he turned his attention to the railroad,
bought up so much stock in the New York and Harlem Railroad
that by 1863, he owned the line.
He later acquired the Hudson River Railroad and the New York Central Railroad and consolidated
them in 1869. Okay. So like I said, I want to know more about that particular process. I want
to know more about what was, what more so it allowed him, how was that one person allowed to
do that? Like not what he did more so. i don't think antitrust laws existed till after
rockefeller uh standard oil but i don't think that first of all that didn't protect none of that
prevents monopolization anyway again when we talk about the monopolies that have existed throughout
america uh the ones that you can point to every single one of them um have have happened by way
of the state being involved um and benefiting the person who wanted to own all of this.
It's not like, oh, I went here. You you had something that I wanted to purchase voluntarily.
So I bought it. It's no. What happened with the bail monopoly?
It was, well, hold on here. Here's this service that we're going to provide.
You want to compete with us? No, you can't.
Because we worked with the government and the state has made it illegal for anybody else to build it. Like that has happened.
And this is why when we talk about moving or rather transitioning from the system, it is that we have right now.
You can't look at it through the lens of the what if Bezos, what if this person, this person that got extremely wealthy off of government contracts.
We can't look at it through that lens because that's not
what we're we're not living that right now didn't get rich out of the government he was a shipping
private enterprise guy well i'm not talking about him how he he he got his money and even with
shipping i want to know to the extent what and again i'm not familiar with i don't know so i'm
not going to pretend like i have the answer to that but i just have a very hard time believing that one person without
any sort of competition because i can't find any other example where that has existed without any
sort of competition or rather more so without the assistance of the state was able to just up and
say you know what uh i i now own everything it is that exists because that doesn't make that i can't
process that but if it's
true okay but i have a hard time believing that this is why i need to i'm gonna have to look at
the receipt to myself on that because i'm not gonna pretend like i have the answer i just have
a hard time believing that that was the case where someone just voluntarily without i was able to
monopolize an entire industry i i have a hard time there's a good documentary called the men who built
america that's worth checking out yeah uh well Ian, if you look at any super rich,
powerful individual today, they got that way from manipulating the current system that we're under
and using a form of socialism for the super rich while screw off everyone else, just do whatever
you can to stay afloat. While, of course, the super rich gets tax breaks incentives and grants and
handouts uh while of course the majority of people are screwed over before government before really
we had government it was all private people would go form their own cities and they would be like
the god of there's a john astor built astoria new york he was the god of of astoria and there was
no oversight they were the they became the god when did that when i have never
heard of that existing rome was built after a guy named romulus that like that didn't happen with
even with slavery when we talk about the country being built by people that were through private
enterprise like that didn't happen then so i don't understand i'm having a hard time believing that
this gap happened in which okay all of these people got rich, no state, no, not
using any sort of form of statism and were able to be the sole, the sole producer of that. Again,
that didn't even happen with slavery. When you talk about slave codes fresh off the boat, where
that was a status institution. So I just have a hard time, um, more so, more so believing that I
get the fear, I get the fear i get the fear but every ever
for the most part of these examples you can always point to well this person was able to leverage the
state local government or something like that to be able to either price uh you know we got to talk
about minimum wage laws and how that is existed and how union workers would would utilize this
to price certain people out of the market this is stuff that has existed over the course of american of america's history so i i don't
believe that there was ever a gap where the state wasn't if there was a true monopolization because
this is one thing to be a uber uber rich i'm not like anti-rich and i'm not suggesting that there
are people that got rich by way of voluntary exchange but if they become the sole producer
generally that means that they made it illegal for someone else to produce they made it illegal
for that person to be able uh to make that particular product ip laws is uh is another
example and how that has how that has been utilized to manipulate manipulate that where we
see some one company owns the the patent for for this and no matter if someone wants
to make that particular let's say drug or something like that for cheaper they can't they can't right
or so i'm just using that as a as a kind of wild example but that's an example of how that sort of
stuff exists so i'm gonna have to look at the receipts on that all right let's see uh bub savvy
says tim you cleared up the railroad question with hotep. How long until Rockefeller would have to answer to the absolute worst that can happen so someone comes up with
some uh complicated scenario what if this happened and then that happened and that happened and i
have to ask the question like why was that knowing that human beings act purposeful action i guess
why i would call economics the study of human action right not number messing around with
numbers and stuff but why did that person act
in the way that they act so what incentive does a person that oh i own the one one road right uh
that can get to and fro and that person decides okay i don't want anybody else on it what incentive
does he have to do that he's not going to be able to get goods transport but that's it right
ideology but who's to say just a general hatred or emotion that can be a thing but that but that's it, right? Ideology. But who's to say? Or just a general hatred or emotion.
That can be a thing.
But that's what I'm saying.
Like, how likely is it that someone, when we talk about trucking and stuff like that,
and the concept of transportation, why on earth would someone that definitely, if the
idea, let's say if it's greed or something like that, why would they derail that particular,
let's say, source of income just for the sake of hating somebody?
If I owned all the roads in this neighborhood.
Which would be nearly impossible for you to do.
If somebody owned all the roads in this neighborhood because they bought them all from someone else.
Again, that is a.
But it's possible under the thing you're saying.
No, it's not.
It's highly unlikely.
What were you saying?
The government would dictate that?
No, I'm saying that when free people act and compete with each other, it is highly unlikely for you to do that unless you are preventing someone else.
But it's possible. No, not at all.
Highly unlikely, yes. Possible, yes.
But possible, hell, it's possible that I could slip down the, we talk about 99% survival rate.
You can't criticize or fear, let's say, this concept existing just because it might be possible.
Hold on a second.
You've been talking for 20 minutes.
I'm going to finish this statement.
Hold on a second.
Consolidation of wealth is a common tactic.
So if I owned all the roads in the neighborhood where you lived, listen to me, and your wife bothered me and I wanted to screw you, I could.
That's very dangerous.
Here's a question.
First of all, again, in order to do that,
it would be nearly impossible for you to enforce that, by the way.
Not if it's private security.
So enforce one person on a road,
and that's another thing when we talk about the privatization of roads.
How about you?
You explain to me how you're going to enforce that.
Hire 100 guys?
How are you going to hire 100 guys to do what?
To block the road for you specifically.
For me?
Just for me.
And this happens.
And this happened.
When I was in L.A., I went to the Staples Center.
But just for you, no.
But I'm saying I understand that people travel.
People have warrants and stuff like that.
But you know right now there are people that have warrants, let's say, for their arrest right now that go out there and travel just relatively freely.
Yes.
Right now.
So how likely is it?
And this is my frustration with that question
because it operates under a completely nonsensical hypothetical.
No, it's not.
There are business chains that have people's pictures
that you're banned for life.
There's casino chains that have your photo.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
But that's a casino.
That's not a road.
You see what I mean?
You're talking about a means of travel
where really thousands of people may travel.
Yes, because how difficult is it for you to enforce that?
The road?
Versus you being in someone's—
Extremely easily.
Two guys with a checkpoint and guns.
All the checkpoints.
So you're going to have a person at every single checkpoint checking every single person going to and fro.
Are we talking about one road?
Hold on, man.
He said one road, and to screw with you But that's the thing. We have to talk about. Hold on, man.
He said one road and to screw with you. That's not what he said.
No.
First of all, he said that if he wanted to screw me over, he would have to own all of
the roads.
So first and foremost, he's operating under a nonsensical example.
Okay.
Let's use a high.
Let's use a high.
Yeah, please.
Let's say there's a highway that I control.
Okay.
And you take my road and you get to
the city in an hour otherwise you got to go around it takes 10 hours okay i own again wow guys i put
your photo up it's i don't like you all right so again why are we operating yet again on another
nonsensical example nonsensical because how likely is it in a free society that only one road would
get one place to where 10 you had to go around for a turn of 10,
a one hour trip to a 10 hour trip.
It's called the bridges in South Jersey.
That is again,
if you highly monopolized by way of the government right now. So we're talking about my exactly,
exactly.
So we're not,
but we're not talking about that right now.
We're not talking about,
um,
the,
an example that exists right now.
And then trying to put what it is that i advocate on that particular example that's why i keep saying that you're operating on a straw man
you're operating you're trying to look through it through the lens of what exists right now i'm not
advocating what exists right now we have nothing close to what it is that i that what is it huh
twitter yes what about it twitter monopolized political discourse how did they monopolize
political discourse we're talking they monopolize political discourse?
We're talking about politics right now on YouTube.
Where are we talking about the roads?
So there's absolute monopoly.
And I'm not saying, again, maybe you understand it.
No, I don't consider PayPal a monopoly.
Even though they control 80% of internet financial exchange.
Yes, I would not consider it.
But I'm not saying that there's not a problem there. I would not consider it, but I'm not advocating. I'm not saying that there's,
there's not a problem there.
That's not what it is that I'm advocating.
If you're,
if you're banned from PayPal,
you can't operate on,
on basically,
and you can't make money off any platform.
And how did we get to that point?
Because PayPal is the first and best dressed.
First and best dressed.
First in,
first dressed.
First in,
best dressed.
Okay.
First in,
best dressed.
What it means is PayPal was one of the first platforms to allow interchange between various internet companies.
Okay.
Because everyone used it, it was the easiest way for people to function.
Right.
We now have some competition.
One company, Stripe.
But Stripe has a lot of the same policies as PayPal.
Okay.
If you get banned from PayPal, you're not making money on the internet anymore.
So what's the point?
I'm asking you for the point.
What do you mean?
PayPal's banned conservatives and right-wing individuals for no reason i understand and
destroyed their livelihoods i understand it i understand it but but i'm trying to understand
what the point is here so what are we what ian was saying is that for seemingly arbitrary or
ideological reasons okay people who control massive have massive control again here we go
operating on under the premise that they premise that that is a thing.
PayPal is a thing.
I understand that PayPal is a thing.
We're talking about transportation and roads, okay?
So, with that being said, how likely of a scenario in a completely free society,
why is it that the default is that one person controls the roads?
Because Vanderbilt.
That doesn't even happen in the country right now. It's Vanderbilt, dude. No, it doesn't. There are private bridges and roads all controls the road. That doesn't even happen in the country right now.
It's Vanderbilt, dude.
No, it doesn't.
There are private bridges and roads all over the country.
I know that's what I'm saying, though.
That's exactly the point.
I think what Eric is trying to say here to make this kind of simple
is that there's a lot of bad people out there,
but for the bad people to use institutions and systems
to enforce their bad ideas is a lot more harmful than if there was a decentralization and they didn't have those larger institutions to force or hurt people with that.
That is silly because the government is the one institution that can monopolize things, and they monopolized all of these things.
And for someone to say that that is the solution, I don't even understand how you can fathom.
Well, the government makes sure that no one person owns all the roads and again they they do well they actually do that they the government the
state themselves i mean that's why that's what they do with the railroads for instance well no
i'm saying that's how the transportation system works in this country right now they won't let
their senses so why is it okay for the state to monopolize it but you think you you fear so much
that the that there is uh let's say some
private individual that would do it why is it preferable that because we own the state no we
don't well no we don't the way the government's that's not how that's not how it works you may
not feel no no that's no legitimate no i don't understand objectively speaking that objectively
that is an incorrect have you ever seen a private security guard punch a cop in the face
no they do it all the time you got high-powered six-figure security guards who will punch a cop
in the face you can watch the videos online a cop will walk up and there'll be a high profile
yes i know i get that people beef on the cops all hell i went to no the point is
if you've got at least the police have some accountability. Mobs don't. Who?
Mobs don't.
Who are large gangs accountable to?
If you live in the south side of Chicago and a gangbanger kills your brother or friend,
who are you going to call?
What are you going to do about it?
You're going to go to the gang leader and be like, well, I want some reconciliation.
Well, they do it now, and there's barely any reconciliation.
There's a lot of murders
that go on in Chicago anyway.
And look at what happens.
Right.
That's the point.
Yeah.
You have no way to hold
any of these guys accountable
except going to the police.
No, no, no, no.
Even if you go to the police,
you don't get any accountability
in the south side of Chicago.
You don't get any accountability.
Hold on, hold on.
You guys are speaking in absolute terms
that is not correct.
Okay.
I'll tell you this.
If there is a 1% chance that I go to the cops and say, I'm mad that guy killed someone I know.
There's a 1% chance something gets resolved.
It's better than going to the gang and he's going to laugh in your face or point a gun in your face.
So why do we look at it like the state itself isn't a gang?
I didn't say it wasn't.
I said at least there's some accountability.
So you just want a bigger gang then?
You don't think there's accountability? I grew up banging a bigger gang then? You don't think there's accountability?
I grew up banging, by the way.
You don't think there's accountability among gang members?
How do you think we operate?
There is, but not for people outside the gang.
The people in my neighborhood who get killed get nothing.
But if you're in the gang and you commit some infraction, they say, we'll take care of it.
That doesn't happen with the state?
Same thing with Antifa.
Same thing with cops.
That doesn't happen with the state?
It just happens on a grander, bigger level in the Middle East.
I tell you this.
When you have these cops in all these different circumstances who are involved in justified
shootings, like an actual incident where they were being shot at or something, defending
themselves, and they still get fired and they still get prosecuted.
So there is still some sort of accountability for the police.
That's not accountability.
That's not justice. If you said that they were doing the right thing and for the police. That's not accountability. That's not justice.
If you said that they were doing the right thing and they get punished, that's not accountability.
That's not justice.
That's not an argument.
I'm saying the fact exists that there can be accountability for police and it happens a lot.
First of all, what do you think it is that we're advocating?
I think we have a big time confusion here because I'm advocating for privatized forms of security and law.
So I'm not advocating for a complete frigging free-for-all.
You're looking at it as if, well, the state is, as it exists, at least they're accountable, which I think that is overstating it.
But I would love more so for violence.
I don't know if it – how exactly, again, we're talking about markets.
Who has more accountability, G4S or NYPD?
Like, why does that – what are you asking in that question?
Like, why are you asking me that question like why why are you
asking me that serious question because we're you know but what's the point like what like why like
why are you asking me that in the sense so the conversation started with a discussion about a
private road right and an individual being able to tell you to go right but again you're all right
so we're looking at it like all right at least this exists here, right? What I am advocating for, and this is going to apply to you as well, is that there is a market that exists.
I accept the idea that there's a bunch of water bottle companies, right?
A bunch of people that can create water.
Dasani, Ozarka, Aquafina, Smart.
There's all these sorts of companies that can do that.
And municipal water that and they compete
and they and they compete with each other right and municipal water they compete with municipal
water too they what i'm saying is is that all of these exist for the law it does not right now
that is completely monopolized by way of the state what i I am advocating is, is that that system in itself be voluntarily arrived in a sense that there are competing firms.
So I don't want one instance in which because it's funny how we immediately go to the the the extreme.
Right. What if this. So what? Hold on. Let me finish. Let me finish. You just made a point. I got to answer. Right. No, no, no. I haven't made the ending point. What you're advocating. Let's talk about the end game of that.
This whole what if scenario. Well, what if I or let's say any other any person wants to become, let's say, ruler of said of said land and utilizes the same state that you think is supposed to protect you
and then kills i don't know one two three six million people the government itself the state
is most attributed to we're talking actual like forms of genocide and killing their own citizens
you will find more instances of that which is why it's complete lunacy. Let's go back to the police thing.
It's complete lunacy.
Hold on, hold on.
I just want to finish this one point.
It's complete lunacy to act as if what I'm advocating
is something that is extremely crazy
when the ideology that basically you're advocating for,
which is the state, is far more responsible,
far more examples of them killing more people
than what it is that I'm advocating.
So we talk about blocking people.
Let's talk about Nazi Germany.
That's the end game.
Or democide.
Let's go way back to the police.
It's a thing.
And so what happens if I hire a law enforcement agency and they arrest you,
and I'm a high-paying customer with tons of contracts at this company, and you're not.
Why is it that I just don't understand why we keep having to operate on a what-if
where we go to the most extreme example.
How is that extreme?
It is.
It's very extreme because you're operating under this guise that this setup was that,
okay, that's exactly what it is that I want, so it's a what-if.
I didn't say that that's what I—
You said you want competing law enforcement, right?
Yes, I, no, no.
What I want is competing firms.
How that comes to about, I have no idea.
No way to predict that.
You don't.
I can theorize.
Is it by way of some sort of insurance?
That's utopian.
That's utopian.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
I'm not, I'm not.
You just said no.
Utopian means perfect society.
I'm not asking.
I'm not advocating for a free society.
You just said no what ifs and give me a what ifs.
No, no.
I'm saying what exactly.
That's the point because I don't know.
You don't know either.
None of us know.
If I knew, if I knew we wouldn't be talking about it.
It don't work.
No, you know, you can have it.
You can theorize.
That's exactly, that's the best.
I just want a system where the labor is controlled by the people.
Why don't we just do that?
Why?
Okay.
Why don't you do it?
Because it doesn't work.
Communism fails every single time.
Okay.
Yes, it fails every single time. I think you should be free to act doesn't work. But that's I'm not OK. Yes, it fails every single time.
I think you should be free to act that out voluntarily.
That's all I'm saying.
Let it fail.
Let it don't use force.
I agree.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
Go buy a farmland and set up your own socialist communist society.
But I'm not operating on utopianism because I'm not pretending like there won't be an instance where someone gets murdered.
There won't be an instance where someone has a wrong murdered there won't be answers where someone has a wrongdoing i'm not stupid enough
to advocate that but it's a silly that's why it's so silly for someone to try to pin this like
definitely on the ideology it is that i advocate to try to pin this like uber perfect oh what is
if this happens what is the what how does eric july and libertarianism solve it the whole point
of a market is that i don't know well when you
bring it up let the market new idea i want to brainstorm that idea i'm all about that's what
we're doing right now right so i will give you the biggest but you can't say my issue with that
my issue with that especially what you what you're saying utopianism because you're pretending like
i'm saying that it's perfect i don't know i. Hold on. I am not under any sort of.
You got manhandled by private security.
Was G4S?
No.
And where were you, Bilderberg?
There's a lot of, like, security that I have confrontations with.
You ever file a complaint?
No, usually it's the police that arrest me and harass me more and make up bull crap stuff on me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know.
Right, right, right.
Have you ever filed a complaint against cops?
I actually did, yes.
In New York City, I was beat up
by the cops when I was 16.
And I filed a complaint with the
went with the Civilian Complaint Review Board.
And after investigating, they found
no instance of anything
that happened. And it was all bullcrap that
just absolutely wasted my time and nothing.
You ever complain about the private security that's roughed you up?
I see. Come on, dude, you can't. I complain about the private security that's roughed you up? I see.
Come on, dude.
You can't.
I mean, what private security are you specifically talking about?
You did a video where G4S was roughing you up at some hotel.
That wasn't G4S.
That was the private hotel security.
And then police officers came and assaulted me and then arrested me and put me in a cage.
When the security was trying to manhandle me, I pushed them back.
I walked away from them and
i told them if they if they aggressed on me what do you mean what what's the solution the solution
someone with more power we don't we don't know the answer we don't know the solution but i think
it's best to strive towards a decentralization towards a society where we are responsible for
ourselves and don't depend on anyone else the government should control food no okay do you think they should control let's say um with clothing right should
they should they control clothing okay so why is it that you think that they are best suited the
state right the government that's essentially the state the territorial monopoly why you think that
they are best suited to let's say solve all of these problems that I guess you, you, maybe you, that we're talking
about an instance where someone's black off the road. I'll give you one example. We have a
constitution that guarantees me certain rights and often those rights get trampled on, but at least
there is a semblance of accountability. I've been through the system. I've been wrongly arrested on more than one occasion.
And I've gotten my, albeit imperfect, version of justice in that I don't think I should have been arrested in the first place, but I end up winning.
Now, I've also been manhandled by private security who laugh in my face.
And who am I going to call?
I'm going to call.
I'd like to file a complaint with your company.
Are you a customer?
No.
Then bye.
Well, I mean, well, we certainly don't have any instances.
This is why I don't understand the mentioning of that because right now we don't have like
it's competing firms right now.
Competing firms in what capacity?
What do you mean?
And when I say competing firms, I'm saying when we talk about right now the state monopolizes
law.
It decides what's wrong.
It decides what's right.
We have competing firms.
No, we don't.
No, we don't.
What do you mean?
No, we don't have competing.
No, the state, there is no competition against, let's say, the state.
What they say goals is ultimately they may. They may. Who? Kashmir. What about what?
You got two different governments fighting for control. I understand that.
But no, we have because we have federal governments. We have state state and we have state governments.
We have local government. That's state that states competing with with other states and that's why i would prefer that they be broken up for that exact reason because i would prefer them actually competing with each competing with
each other in a sense that definitely when it comes to my mobility and being able to move i
would prefer that be a thing as opposed to government or one world government or something
like that yeah so like cities have different laws states have different laws counties have laws yes
countries have laws right so you can freely move to a different place with different laws if you don't like the laws here.
Yes, exactly.
That's competition.
Well, no, no, no, no.
That's why everybody wants to come to America.
No, no, no.
What I want is more of that.
This is why I would prefer decentralization, right?
Because why, if I accept that Canada is different from America, why can't I accept that Texas be different from the rest of the United States?
So why do we accept?
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm advocating for as a solution to getting towards the—
I don't agree with private law and judiciary in the United States.
Well, it wouldn't be a United States if that was the case.
Like if Virginia's got its own laws and West Virginia's got its own laws and that's a fact, then you can choose to live in one of the other states.
Bingo.
This is why I advocate for decentralization.
Yeah, so the initial conversation we were talking about is someone owning a road and deciding
to cut you off because they can.
Yes.
And that happens.
Yes.
And oh, yeah.
And the state cuts me off all the time.
Business licensing and all the exact same thing.
No, no, it's not the exact same thing, because when they get to do that, I actually it's
it's more likely that I can fight against someone else than I can the state anyway.
There's nothing if the state or monopoly of the state. Exactly. That's the problem. Yeah. We don't want big. I don't can the state anyway. There's nothing if the state...
Exactly. That's the problem.
I don't want the big monopoly. That's the thing.
I don't want that monopolization. That's the whole reason
why I advocate what it is that I advocate.
So,
when you're talking about competing firms,
it exists.
Not in the libertarian
sense, no.
I don't want to move to what's
that state in mexico i don't um uh chiron chiron why aren't you why aren't you there well because
i'm here and or well i'm out of texas i would rather decentralize that because i live there
i was from there that's more so what i want why am i required by to do you do you tell like
people that i don't know get aggressed upon to just stop getting aggressed upon?
If you live in a bad neighborhood, leave the neighborhood.
Yes.
So that's what you tell them instead of, I don't know, pun.
I know I moved away from where I was from.
But that's not the ultimate solution.
That person still did something wrong to that person at the end of the day.
That's wrong, right?
You would agree murder, theft, and all those sorts of things.
Rape.
Those are very bad things.
And the last thing, I don't tell a woman that gets raped, well, you shouldn't have
wore that skirt.
We don't tell people that.
That's a totally different argument.
No, it's not.
It's the same argument that you just made, Tim.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
No, it isn't.
Yes, it is.
Stop.
The argument I made is if you keep going into an alley and getting robbed, stop going in
the alley.
You just made that same argument.
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
Yes, you did.
You made the same argument that you're not placing the responsibility.
If you live in a bad area.
Yes, I know that.
But that's what I'm saying.
When it comes to the wrongdoing.
Yes, you have choices.
I was telling someone to leave a bad neighborhood the same as blaming them for wearing clothes and getting raped.
Why is it not?
Because the reason why.
No, it's not.
Because you're saying that if someone said, let's's say a female dressed a certain kind of way and that person and that you know i don't know
someone liked the way that that person looked and that person committed an act of aggression be it
an assault rape or or what have you that's the same exact argument you're the abuser it's not
yes it is i'm not the abuser i'm not i'm like if i'm because we're talking about the state
right if i'm in a bad neighborhood oh it doesn, I'm like, because we're talking about the state, right?
If I'm in a bad neighborhood,
it doesn't have to be a state.
We're talking about actual aggressors.
If I'm in a bad neighborhood,
I understand that.
Yes,
I'm in a bad neighborhood.
Is it preferable if I have the mobility to be able to move?
Absolutely.
That doesn't change the fact that those people that are utter being
destructive to their community aren't bad.
So the thing that I don't tell,
but that's why I'm not saying, I don't default to, yes,
it's preferable.
If someone is using aggression upon you, try to go the other way.
This turn the other cheek.
We say that stuff all the time.
I'd rather defend, what is, all right, explain it to me one more time.
I want to get your argument right. If somebody is like, here's a dark alley that I've been robbed in three times and you're like, that's crazy, and they go, I'm going to go walk through it again.
Wouldn't you be like, hey, maybe you shouldn't do that?
All right.
All right.
I'm going to try to use it.
Let's try to see if this is the same analogy.
Someone knowingly got, let's say, assaulted.
We'll just go back to the—
They've been assaulted several times.
No, no.
That's what I—
They have a choice.
All right.
Someone that was sexually—
And they choose to go.
Right.
Someone is sexually assaulted by way of, you know, the person was attracted to them because they wore whatever, whatever thing that they that it is that they wore.
If they choose to wear that same thing through an alley.
But of course, it's not the same exact thing.
That's why it's an analogy, Tim.
No, that's why.
How is it a different argument?
Explain.
You have an alley.
Yes.
Where there's crime.
Yes.
And you keep going in there. Yes. And you keep getting keep getting all right that's i'm using the same exact thing you have a person that's wearing clothing
right and and they keep they get because they they they dress in a certain way men or whatever
same people because they're wearing the same clothes every time that's a very well argument
is stop going around those people and leave the neighborhood. Tim, I understand that.
I'm not saying that that isn't the preferable thing to do.
What I'm saying is I don't blame that person for wearing those sorts of clothes.
And I don't say I don't default there when it when that person is aggressed upon.
So when you say, well, just move.
That is that's why I'm using that exact example because all you're doing is telling
the woman after she has been assaulted because of what she's wearing you tell her just don't wear
that's not a real argument for clarification you might not like it for clarification eric meant
said ship and second uh i i see no one has been taking the ashwagandha i've been giving out to
people uh and are there more super chats that maybe have more input i love i love the idea that there are people who live in
cities that are upset that they choose to live in this city and they do and they're mad they
got to pay taxes on that city because i literally walked away slept parks, got in my car and just left.
And you know what?
I was broke.
And I said, whatever.
It's my choice to choose where I'm going to be.
How is it incumbent upon someone else's neighborhood to provide for me?
I'm not saying I don't want to leave.
I certainly haven't made that argument that it's on the neighborhood to provide anything
for anybody.
All I'm saying is that I don't blame that person for being in that situation just because whether they was raised that way whether they got family there whether they got
kids and if someone is being is aggressing upon them my i don't say oh well you just leave right
no i'm like oh that aggression is bad is it preferable considering that that is the circumstance
that you live in to get the hell out of there absolutely that's what i did i'm from south
dallas i grew up i grew up claiming blood blood. I grew up doing all of that stuff.
And of course, it was preferable for me to remove myself from that.
That doesn't change the fact that I, as a person that grew up doing that, was terrorizing
my own community.
So it has everything to do with what we're talking about, Tim, because that's what I'm
saying, that that is on the aggressors.
I was actually the aggressor back then terrorizing my own community.
So I get it.
I'm not disagreeing with the idea that if you can, if you have that mobility to be able to get the hell out, do it.
But that is not I'm not going to say because someone aggressed upon someone that was living in South Dallas, living in Chicago, living in a rough part of L.A. that they should just up and leave.
No, it is wrong what their government is doing.
It's wrong for what gang members in a certain area or whatever wrongdoing is happening.
So let's step back from the extremist argument and put it this way.
You have a choice to live in New York City.
New York City's got a city income tax.
Yes.
Okay, that's crazy.
You can leave.
Yeah, you can.
There are competing jurisdictions vying for your resources. Yes. Okay, that's crazy. You can leave. Yeah, you can. There are competing
jurisdictions vying for your
resources, your money,
your labor. And that's why I want, and I agree
with you 100%, that's why I want more of them.
And we have tens
of thousands. Yeah, no,
we have 50 in terms of the
states. I'd love if there were more.
You mean there's other countries?
No, I know there's other countries.
Like what's that state, Mexico?
Yes, I understand there's other countries, but that doesn't say anything.
Why aren't you in Tehran?
Because I'm here.
But you can go there.
I can go anywhere.
I can go a lot of places, but I don't.
I live actually in a place that I actually like.
It's part of why I would want to break away from the federal government, because the federal
government is the bigger aggressor than Texas, where I'm at.
So I want them off my back.
So I would rather separate from them than move, I don't know, away from somewhere else.
I like where it is that I am.
And again, this is why it's the weird question.
There's two different approaches here, and I think both of them have merit.
Well, it's an interesting philosophical argument that I don't want to leave so everyone else
should change, even though most people seem to agree with it.
What?
Most people in this country are totally
fine with the way yeah so why vote why vote or do any of that thing then because yeah people
disagree they show ways by way of their voting with their dollar by way of actually voting by
way of the state they all show that they disagree in some way shape or form that's a complete non
argument we everybody everywhere for the most part is disagreeing with people. Yes, of course that there are more, let's say non-libertarians to me. There's also more, let's say where I'm
living at may be more red. There's more Republicans than there are Democrats,
a complete non-argument. Of course we disagree. But the, what I'm, the point that I'm trying to
make is that I would much rather, the reason why I would, I don't, I don't, I don't mind
secession because it gets the power closer to the individual
so I I agree with the point you're actually making the argument for me this idea that
well West Virginia is different from from from Maryland so I'd rather go there okay I would
want that applied even more the simple the simple thing out of all this is you like living under the
rules of the federal government no more than you would prefer to
leave that government no i i like the there's a was no the multitude of different reasons as to
why i live and where i live what it ultimately boils down to is that i like where it is that i
am i i love it don't get me wrong um i like i like the culture i have a lot of like-minded people
that live around me who is on my back right now
the most is the federal government and that doesn't mean if the federal federal government
completely gets out the way that there isn't a fight to be had it's an easier fight to be had
to oppose let's say the denton county or whatever as it is to oppose texas as likewise it's easier
to oppose texas government than it is to propose the federal uh government so again i agree with that point it's actually making my point and why i think that there
uh should be more especially if we're going to come to some sort of uh peaceful uh concession
and what it all comes down to is you would rather live where you are yes with everything the problem
all the problems you have with the federal government yes than in a freer state like
chiron no no that's not what i'm saying what i'm saying is i like no no it's not otherwise you'd be there no no no just because you'd be
there yes exactly that's the point i don't want to be there but you're trying to put you're trying
to put the reason why i want to be there on me and i think that's disingenuous for you to do that
you'd rather be in one place than another yes no action speak absolutely i'd rather be a place
than another i don't want to live there i I'm not familiar with the culture. I was not raised there. I don these uh would be social security and all these sorts of
things that have to come out of my check or rather they they expect to be paid that i don't want that
so i fight against that yes there are other reasons why culturally i don't want to be be
somewhere else so it's not because it's necessarily just free that's only one one aspect yeah i can go
to somewhere that may be quote unquote freer freer. My family's not there. The real problem is as civilization scale up and all land falls under certain jurisdictions, then there's nowhere for you to go.
And what do you do when most of the people in the country are fine with the way things are going?
You do.
You do.
You can advocate for it.
That's that's exact.
And that's what that's what I do.
That's why I am as vocal as I am
about the philosophy it is that I adopt
because I want to see some sort of change.
Other people do it in different ways.
Some people want to enact change
by way of voting.
Some people want to enact change
by way of community activism,
church or whatever it is.
They have their ways of going about it.
My battle to fight is here. That's where it's at. I don't want to bail. You know, community activism, church or whatever it is, they have their ways of going about it.
My battle to fight is here. That's where it's at. I don't want to bail.
I don't want to just leave. My battle is fight. I was raised here. I understand the language. I understand the culture. This is where my battle is.
And I want to work towards a freer society. And I'm far more useful here than going somewhere else,
just up and bailing just because they may be, quote unquote, freer.
It's not about me wanting to live under this particular federal government and not under where somewhere is free.
No, that's just one aspect of it.
The thing is, is an end game that I ultimately would like to work to.
And I want to fight the battle here.
This is where I am familiar.
This is where I feel that I'm supposed to be.
I'm not supposed to be in wherever
the place it is in tehran in mexico i don't know where that's at i don't live there things that
are challenging or fun i like challenges the start of the conversation was basically competing uh
judiciary systems i suppose the legislative systems yes and they exist yeah i know they
exist i never said they didn't exist what i'm saying more so is I want more of those to exist and I want it to be far more competitive.
What we have right now, when you look, when you consider what the federal government is, is is that it has monopolized this entire land.
And there are rules that we must follow. Half of them don't even make sense.
Considering the geographical area that I'm in, that unfortunately they impede on people's freedom, on people's rights.
And I don't like that. So I want I would rather dissolve that. And that's one less problem.
That doesn't mean that that's the end all. That doesn't mean it stops.
That don't mean just because, oh, the federal government broke, broke up and now the states are now countries or or what have you.
That means the battle stopped. No. And this is why i always say that it is a it is a
not necessarily a battle of might it's a battle of wits i'm not completely oblivious to the fact
that i live somewhere that most people here aren't libertarians i'm not completely oblivious to that
i know that this is why it's an educational war as much as it is as much as it is as much as it
is a more might because if we this is why i wouldn't side with antifa type
if we ended the government as is right now where have we gotten nowhere all that's gonna happen is
is that a new one is going to form in this place as long as the people that are living there still
think the same way it is that they think and this is why i say it's just as much educational as it
is and responsible responsible i agree that they're the federal government's got too integrate in what we're doing but i also think
that there's importance in regulation that the government does utilize regulation sometimes to
destroy small businesses and allow amazon and all these other big box companies to profit and
destroy small businesses and regulation and sometimes just keep the roads free for everyone
to use so there's all i the roads free for everyone to use.
So there's all,
I think there is a value to leaving some sort of federal or making sure
there's fluoride in people's drinking water.
So their teeth are.
Yeah.
Imagine if the,
if,
if,
if the government had a full monopoly on water,
how much crap would be in that water?
Well,
as we know,
Luke,
the,
the,
you're completely wrong because all they did was put fluoride in it.
And that made our teeth clean.
Yes. Not a fan of the fluoride in it and that made our teeth clean.
Yes. Not a fan of the fluoride guzzlers. I'm super curious what the super chats have to say about this conversation and where they stand. I think maybe we could even do a poll saying,
if you agree with this kind of idea, you press one or you press two if you disagree.
JDTN says, Tim is saying your situation sucks, so leave. Eric is saying your situation sucks,
so fix it. Not true. What I'm saying is
if you're advocating for competing
legislative or judicial
systems, and there's competition
between them, you would...
I'll put it this way. Let's say there's a bunch of different burger
restaurants, and you're like, man, I keep going to
Burger King and it gets me sick every time. Okay, go to Wendy's.
Right?
Or do you stand up in Burger King and demand they fix
their burgers? that is absolutely
well it's it i mean that's actually a form of uh of more of a marketized form of regulation because
what happens if uh this part this burger king or whatever did do that and i go run my big mouth
about this is why i'm against like concepts like the civil civil rights act and actually there were
examples of that one of the biggest myths is well, the southern states all just wanted to be very racist against people.
That is factually incorrect. You can look to examples like Plessy versus Ferguson.
Well, you had examples like the Louisiana Boxcar Act, also known as the Separate Boxcar Act.
And there were actually companies that did not want to segregate their people.
That's not what they wanted to do. They didn't want to segregate them. But instead, what happened was this is why I had a hard time believing that the state just up and allowed that or the state wasn't utilized to allow that sort of monopolization that we were mentioning earlier.
The state with the separate boxcar act forced companies to segregate what colored folk from black folk it was not a market the market itself the actual company which again
don't take my word for anything go look it up was actually against that law for economic reasons
it would cost them more about to spend more money on boxcars having to try to separate the white
folk from the colored folk so they themselves in the south were were against that particular law
and there's instances that for whatever reason, we don't talk about that.
Let's have the market decide.
Press one if you think Tim and Ian are correct.
Press two if you think me and Eric are correct.
Well, I am right.
Let the crowd decide.
Because my point is, if you're advocating for the ability to choose between jurisdictions, you can do that.
I'm not saying you shouldn't try and fix the place you're living in.
We made a lot of different arguments, and I think press one, Tim and Ian,
press two, me, Luke and Eric.
Or nine or seven.
One or two.
Let the crowd decide.
I think that's the most interesting way to kind of burst this conversation
in the comments section.
We just got in just a whole slew of super chats.
There's a whole bunch, man.
And they're all – let me just – there's just so many.
Let's see.
I'll scroll down.
Tim is right.
Tim is the best
who has the monopoly of control when it comes to comments it's mixed it is uh some people are
saying that you know uh and i'll only read this one ensuring small gang tribal warfare is almost
inevitable from anarchism there must be some type of social construct agreed upon to work people equals
a disparaging term eric you're being defensive af breathe man lol jk you're all this is me like
this is slight work like we're individuals that talk about this type of stuff all the time this
is slight work i hate that's gas textbook gaslight man you relax they said lol jk like come on
well you talk about smaller conflicts.
I'd rather have smaller conflicts than bigger conflicts.
And someone like Joe Biden with his fingers on the nuclear trigger right now.
I'd rather have that.
So my personal choice.
Tube Amps Rule says, Ian, I've never seen you conclude your point more gentlemanly than you did today.
Thank you, sir.
You did good.
The Dead Man man says Ian should
look up the story of Thorn from Destiny.
The gun is the focal point of the stories concerning
multiple guardians. Yeah, I played
Destiny and yes, yes, check it out.
Let's see.
Blaze 88 says
Tim's logic equals move somewhere less free
if you don't think you are free enough here.
That's absolutely incorrect. I'm saying
first of all,
I'm not leaving this country
because I love the Constitution.
The Constitution needs to be enforced.
So I agree.
We've got to fix these problems.
The federal government has been amassing too much power.
The shift away from local government
into federal government
has caused problems for everybody across the country.
So I think we all agree on that.
There's a reason why
if people have the choice to choose,
if people have the choice between jurisdictions, it's funny how they keep choosing to come here because you know
it's the best in the world isn't it got to fix a lot of the problems though all right let's see
we we've gone way over so let's just read a couple more ed's world says anarchy ends in pay to win
dylan keller says if you guys end the stream without spinning the male vitality,
I'm going to flip out. Okay, I'm going to try and get it back on.
It fell off the metal. It fell down.
The magnet in my furbance.
Dane Phillips says, just found out about Eric
from the show last night. Been watching his stuff all day.
Great stuff, Tim and co.
Now that we've gone an hour and 15 minutes
over. What?
That's fun. I like it.
But you guys need to take Ashwagandha.
That's another topic.
No, you need to take...
Isn't the male vitality...
I don't think we need to take...
I think we need less of that.
Male vitality from InfoWars life.
InfoWars.com.
Male vitality.
Spin that male vitality.
There you go.
But it was an interesting debate.
It was fun.
And I think the comment section
will let us know who they like more.
I think it's fair to say
we all agree that the state is the only source of moral good in the world.
And that the ability of individuals to freely trade their goods is amoral and wrong.
And that the only true utopia will emerge once we take away all of the rights of free trade and communize the entire planet under an authoritarian one world government.
For the greater well-being
for equality that everyone's equal the great the great reset you know we already have that
it's happening so you know let's go yeah decentralization and competition uh with a
good referee in my opinion so i'm i'm all in favor of a mixed economy and the u.s shifts a little bit
back left and left and right but it's fairly in the middle when it comes to uh economic freedom it's far from a free market capitalism and a lot of regulation
ends up becoming just gum in the gears of the machine making it messed up it's used as a weapon
to hurt small businesses by big businesses and that's what it's historically done minimum wage
a lot of these things that people advocate right now were absolutely used to do just that, to hurt competitors.
You know what I think the problem is with the healthcare system?
Because I hear the people on the left saying single payer, simplify everything.
And then I hear the right saying free market, show the prices.
And I'm like, you know, those are both actually fine arguments.
There's a lot of pitfalls you could probably find in some of them for different reasons based on moral arguments.
But what we have right now is like they took some of just different parts and just
mashed it all together and our health care system isn't capitalist or socialist it's just a weird
mash of corporate profit that doesn't really you know but a better way to put it is a bunch of
people getting rich off the backs of a bunch of other people through the power of the state
that's not a free market and that's not a socialist system at all it's a broken mash of garbage so there you go socialism for the
super rich corporatist oligarchy is that what it is it's just people who don't contribute extracting
values in the power of the state that's what we have right now it's not it's not it they say it's
the capitalist no it's not if it was, you'd have people competing with each other.
You know, you know how much an aspirin costs.
You don't even know the price.
You go to the hospital and you're like, I, you know, I went to the hospital several years
ago.
I had a kidney stone.
They didn't give me a list of the prices of the breakdown.
They just gave me a bill for $25,000 a day later after, after a day in the hospital.
And I called them and said, what is this?
I was like 25 grand.
I was in the hospital for a day.
And they were like, well, you know, just give us your insurance. I said, I don't have insurance
because it was the week between
when I left Vice and went to Fusion
and they said, oh, oh,
let me send you the corrected bill.
4,000. Yep. How does that make sense?
16 grand. Criminal insurance.
What was that? That would have been $21,000.
$25,000 was the total bill.
So what is that?
600% markup or something? They didn $25 was the total bill. So what is that? Like 600% markup
or something? They didn't write on the prices either.
I was like, I don't know what this is. Because the system is broken right now.
It doesn't make sense. So that's
the real problem.
It's not...
You can't mash these things together
and then just have like a Frankenstein
of a system. It doesn't make sense. I'll leave it at that.
All right, Eric. Thanks for hanging out.
That was fun. Do it again. We went long. We definitely should.
So, I don't know.
We'll probably do something fun and extend for New Year's Eve.
Maybe we'll go live all the way through.
Are you hanging out?
I'm going to be here until Thursday.
The morning of, yeah.
So you'll be here for New Year's Eve?
The day, yes.
A little bit, but I'm leaving that day.
That's the day that I'm leaving.
Alright, well, we're going to have a lot of fun, but you want to shout out
your channel or anything like that? Oh yeah, YoungRipper59,
that's the channel if you want to holler at me. Of course,
at EricDJuly, everywhere else,
Twitter, you name it, man. And again, I appreciate
you having me on.
This is the substantive conversations that we need
to have. I always love
when people are kind of like like this is the best episode ever
whenever we're yelling at each other
people love it
that's what friends do man
that's what I'm saying if y'all thought that I'm going to punch
Tim in the face or something like that
or Ian
don't yell at me he was the one arguing
we could have boxing matches
yeah I mean it would be voluntary
but no it's all good.
We'll play an airsoft game, and we'll film it,
and then Eric's like, ah!
Ian's like, okay, you won!
Luke, what's your channel?
My YouTube channel is WeAreChange,
and you can find me under LukeWeAreChange
on Instagram, Twitter, Venmo,
and I also have t-shirts,
like the one that I'm wearing today and yesterday that you can buy on Teespring's WeAreChange on Instagram, Twitter, Venmo, and I also have t-shirts, like the one that I'm wearing today and yesterday
that you can buy on Teespring's WeAreChange.
I got some really good ideas for clothing
we're going to make soon.
Let's do it.
Yeah.
Shout out if you're a graphic...
I think I have a few graphic designers already.
It's going to be fun.
It's not going to be political.
Well, my short store helps me to be free and independent,
and it's been huge,
and I thank you guys so much for purchasing it because it keeps me up and running and keeps me away from doing anything else.
So thank you.
I appreciate you.
Ian, I hear that you have a Twitter or something.
I do.
It's at Ian Crossland.
You can follow me all over the internet.
In fact, my YouTube channel, I just uploaded a video today talking about some ideas about fixing our government, our financial system, and our internet bill of rights that you can watch on my youtube channel at ian crossland and i think everybody here like we have in common is like
libertarian in a certain degree like varying degrees of libertarian is what like but then
there's like cooperative versus competitive and you know like certain arguments but uh yeah i
don't think it's it's not doesn't strike me as a utopian answer but it seems like the most sensical
path towards like a next generation of United States.
A one world communist government.
Of course.
Something simple like that.
And of course, you can follow.
You can follow Sour Patch Lives.
Yes.
And I really do like engaging with libertarians much more than authoritarians because libertarians tend to think out what they think.
And authoritarians do not.
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