Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #204 - MyPillow Guy Told Trump To Declare MARTIAL LAW?! w/ Jason Rantz

Episode Date: January 16, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia invite Jason Rantz all the way from the Pacific northwest to discuss the MyPillow guy supposedly telling Trump to do some martial law, Biden's plan for the future, Tucker mocking AOC, and whether or not we are, in fact, entrenched in a civil war.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In what may be one of the darkest conspiracies ever exposed by the news media in this country, the MyPillow guy was seen meeting with Donald Trump in his hand notes, which read they zoomed in and it was something about Insurrection Act. It's hard to read. But of course, the news is already coming out saying that he was pushing for martial law in his meeting with Trump. I hope you realize I was joking about that. It's not a dark conspiracy. The MyPillow guy, Mike Lindell, had a meeting with Trump. He's

saying he was just relaying information. It was a legal conversation. But the media, some journalists took a photo of his notes and zoomed in. You have no idea what the papers are about, but there's mentions of Insurrection Act and Sidney Powell and things like that. So of course, instead of actually doing any legwork, the media just says he's pushing for martial law. You combine that with the story that's been freaking everybody out, the 20,000 fully decked out National Guard in D.C. We're talking like live ammo, shoot to kill, really crazy stuff. And people start, well, they start going nuts. That's why it's I just rag on the media so much, man. It is so irresponsible to come out and say we saw a few words from far

away on a piece of paper. And now we know what it means when you've got people who already believe a ton of crazy conspiracies. I don't care if I'm left or the right. And you've got a major security event happening. This is ridiculously irresponsible. Now, as for what's really going to happen on the 20th, my opinion, Joe Biden's going to be inaugurated. Then probably, I don't know if the day before or after, we'll see the impeachment trial. Mitch McConnell is apparently telling Republicans to vote their conscience. We'll see if that actually becomes something. But I got this map. We were looking at this map of D.C. and there's a green zone where they've like just barricaded everything off. This is really, really crazy. Some people have pointed out, there's like a retired general

saying there hasn't been this much security for inauguration since Abraham Lincoln. So a lot of talk about on all this. And we might actually talk about some cultural science stuff, just kind of get away from the politics, but we'll see how it plays out. We got a really awesome guest today. Joining us is Jason Ranz. Hello. I'm a talk radio show host that probably no one has heard of unless you watch Fox News. Yeah. Because then you probably have seen me doing some things on Tucker Carlson

and some other shows. Antifa loves you, I hear. Antifa, huge fans. They absolutely adore me and I adore them as well. Lots of content. You're based out of the Pacific Northwest.

Yes. I actually live in Seattle. I don't just say I'm like a Seattle talk show host. I actually live in the heart of Seattle. Brave. Ah, yeah. So you got to experience the crossing the border into the heart of the newly born country of Chaz.

They took away my passport and I had to sneak in. Now, the good news is COVID, the one positive in wearing the masks everywhere, is it's kind of hard to recognize people. However, I quickly learned it doesn't work when you have very distinctive eyebrows. wearing the masks everywhere is it's kind of hard to recognize people. However, I quickly learned it doesn't work when you have very distinctive eyebrows. And they spotted me so quickly. It is so creepy. The eyebrows. As soon as I got in, and this was like sort of early on when it was being established.

And, you know, I had gone down there. I was there with the Julio Rosas from Town Hall. And we were just taking some video. And then I'm checking Twitter and I'm looking at the hashtags and people are taking photos and they're saying Jason Rance is here. Look at his eyebrows! I know, and so I've learned now you wear a hat. It makes it harder. Yeah. Or sunglasses.

Or something. Right on. Well, thanks for hanging out. We've got a lot to talk about. Of course, we've got Luger Kosky. He's chilling. Did you get your passport stamped at least? They literally just took it. Oh my gosh. It was very traumatic. Well, howdy. I'm an independent journalist and also not just now a humble t-shirt seller

vendor, but also a hat seller that you can of course get very humbly on wearechange.org forward slash shirts. I produce content on the YouTube channel We Are Change. It's great being here with all you amazing people, but not just here. Especially you guys, the incredible audience out there. That's really something that is absolutely different than anywhere else.

Stop buttering them up. I have to. Trying to sell your t-shirts. Hey, I'm just saying. There's some good people out there. Ian, you're chilling, right? I am. Did they give you your passport back?

No. What? They really took your passport? Yes. No, they didn't. Who took it? You realize it's not an actual country. Yes.

I know. I just walked by. No, but I mean, they took it? You realize it's not an actual country. Yes. I know. I just walked by. No, but I mean, like, they were, like, stopping people with guns. They were. So. And I'm like, at a certain point, I kind of believe it would happen. Like frisk you and take your stuff? It is kind of like what's going on in D.C. right now, where you did have some people who were armed.

And when cars would go through, they definitely would stop folks because there was concern that someone might actually just try to drive through. It was sort of an unjustified concern. But they weren't actually asking for papers. But they were asking, like, what are you doing here? It's like, well, everyone is talking about this. So people are coming down and checking it out. Do you not want people here? Yeah.

When you were talking about masks and how everyone has been wearing masks, I realized all those people that kind of broke into the White House weren't wearing masks. And now they're really facing the wrath of not having their faces covered. That was the true crime. Do you remember who said that? It was a congresswoman, and I'll find it at some point. Oh, yeah. I forgot her name. Jayapal?

Yeah. I don't think it was Jayapal. There's another one I know. It must have been. If it was for Millie, because she's my congresswoman, I probably would have remembered that. How dare they not wear masks if she wasn't wearing a mask? Well, it was the people who, the riders who

were going in, they also weren't wearing a mask. And apparently that was something that was a big deal. Kind of overshadowing the actual big deal. But I remember seeing some media reports about this this is going to be a super spreader covet event and uh it doesn't look like i don't know i haven't you know really followed it up doesn't look like that was the case at all you

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talked about 10 minutes after the show yesterday. So that's up right now at timcast.com. Check it out. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that subscribe button, that like button, the notification bell. Let's get to the news. All right. So here's what we got. This is great from The Guardian. Trump ally Mike Lindell of MyPillow pushes martial law at White House. Photographer snaps pictures of notes near West Wing. Visible words include move Kash Patel to CIA acting. Interesting. They say Donald Trump will be replaced as president

in five days time by Joe Biden. Trump continues to baselessly claim his election defeat by the Democrat was the result of fraud. The president has now said he disavows the violence as we get. Lindell has seen has risen to prominence among allies urging the president on his attempts to deny reality on his Facebook page on Friday. The mustachioed seller of sleep aids wrote, Keep the faith, everyone. We will have our president, Donald Trump, four more years. Later, a Washington Post photographer caught images of Lindell in which parts of notes he carried were visible. Among visible text were the words, quote, Insurrection Act now as a result of the assault on thee. And that's it. Then it says,

quote, martial law if necessary and quote, move Kash Patel to CIA acting. The notes also refer to Sidney Powell, an attorney and conspiracy theorist involved in Trump campaign lawsuits meant to overturn election results in battleground states, almost all of which have been unsuccessful. Now we have the images right here. So this is tweeted by Jabin Botsford. MyPillowUSA CEO Mike Lindell shows off his notes before going into the West Wing at the White House on Friday, January 15th. And you can see some things. We don't know what this is. I'll tell you right away what my biggest problem with this is. For all we know at the top of the page, it says hypothetical or it says recently, you

know, Linwood posted to Parler the following. And it could just be example text. It could be a reference. It could be fake. We don't know what it is or what, you know, what he's supposedly talking about, why things are, you know, there's redacted sentences on this page. The media just took a picture of this, zoomed in, and now they're running the story as

though the MyPillow guy is like trying to stage a coup. And that's like the narrative now. It's trending on Twitter. So I guess let's just get down to it. Jason, is the MyPillow guy staging a coup? I mean, very clearly. I will say this. So in the context of all the things that are happening and some of the crazy things that have been said by Trump loyalists, I understand why there might be the jump to conclude that these are his thoughts.

You are obviously correct in that they do not have proof. He has since come out. I think it was the Washington Examiner he spoke to basically say, no, these were notes from a lawyer. Now, I don't know if that clarifies, was the lawyer promoting this and you were then handing it to the president? Apparently the president had read it. They met for about five to ten minutes and that was that. You know, I think it's fair game to point out the crazy stuff on that sheet of paper. Yeah.

I agree. Let's not go ahead and just automatically assume. But let's also not pretend that Mike Lindell has not said some crazy things. He has. He has. But am I allowed to just please live in the reality where the MyPillow guy is the master behind this coup to take over and help Trump stay president? I thought I was supporting that.

Maybe he has a pillow fort. You don't know. Of course. Yes. Yeah. Wow. It's 2021. Things course. Yes. Yeah. Wow. How how it's 2021. Things are supposed to chill out.

I like that meme where it's like, yeah, 2020 is over and six days into 2021. It's the Viking guy in the Senate building or whatever. And now it's day 15. And they're claiming the my pillow guy is trying to tell the president to invoke the Insurrection Act. Maybe. Maybe. I mean, he's tweeted about it, hasn't he? Hasn't he said it in the past? Something about martial law? They're claiming the MyPillow guy is trying to tell the president to invoke the Insurrection Act. Maybe, maybe. I mean, he's tweeted about it, hasn't he? Hasn't he said it in the past?

Something about martial law? I don't remember if it was martial law specifically, but he's definitely sort of flirted. Certainly, you've obviously heard people making this exact same claim. I've seen some of these tweets from random people, which is very odd if you're saying the president is not a dictator to then actually say you should send National Guard to completely just call martial law. Does it quite work? I was reading about World War Two, man, because we had a comment the other day about the Beer Hall push. Is that how you pronounce it?

I'm not entirely sure. Where in 1923, the Nazis tried staging a coup and got stopped. And so I've been reading a decent amount about history. I was reading about Italy. I was reading about the Soviet Union and Germany. And I'm just imagining like if in 100 years, some kid is like studying history. And it's like, in 2021, the CEO of a pillow company met with the president and like, you know, like that's the catalyst for this. I'm reading world war two and it's like they say you know hitler went in they surrounded the beer hall he said he jumps up on a chair and he fires a gun in the air and then everyone stops and he yells it's the revolution and it's this very dramatic reading of history about like what happened at this time now he

failed of course he went to prison for a short period of time and then it was only like 10 years later he ended up getting elected am i supposed to believe that history will look back on this time? And this is what like the future generations are going to are going to are going to hear about. Like we hear these really dramatic stories, these famous quotes. I mean, think about these famous quotes like give me liberty or give me death. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees. We're going to have in 100 years the CEO of the pillow company said invoke the Insurrection Act because, you know, cults and whatever. I feel like the quote, the quote's going to be I'm taking many calls and many meetings all day.

I mean, think about it. That's kind of incredible how we got to this point. Is it? How is it? You know what? I wonder this. Is it possible that back in the day when when these statesmen and politicians, when they were saying these quotes, the average person just rolled their eyes and was not that impressed by them? You know what I mean? Yeah. I just listened to Herbert Hoover, I think it was, the president, 1928. He basically served us the Great Depression. Man, he was dry and boring to listen to. Really boring.

I'd rather have the pillow guy. Definitely. Yeah. It's funny. to listen to. Really boring. I'd rather have the pillow guy. Definitely. Yeah. So I'm looking at the news right now from the White House correspondent for The Washington Post, and he says, quote, talked to Mike Lindell this evening. He said lawyer gave him notes to share with POTUS, but repeatedly wouldn't say what lawyer. He said he met with Trump for five to 10 minutes, and then he referred to counsel's office, said the lawyers were disinterested, very disinterested,

and that he allegedly shared this document with this Washington Post guy, and he goes on from there. So it doesn't say who the lawyer was? Yeah. He doesn't want to say who the lawyer was. If it was Lin Wood, would you believe that? It kind of depends how

real the lawyer is. That's amazing. You know, because we have no conclusive evidence, I'm going to choose to live in the world where the pillow guy is colluding with Trump to, you know, some. I love it. No, it's not going to happen. I mean, it really is strange how we've come to this point where people every day seem to think there's going to be some kind of big move by Trump. And it never happens.

You know, I look to some of the most prominent and vocal Trump supporters over the past several years, people like Scott Adams and Cernovich, and they're they're talking down. They're like, well, you know, it's time to move on. It happened. It's what are we going to do? Time for Trump to leave and things like that. And I still see people I still see posts on Facebook where they're like, tomorrow's the day Donald Trump's going to invoke. And I'm like, you said that last week, man. And nothing happened. Why?

Why is this? Why are there so many people on the left who are convinced that the Nazis have taken over? There was one journalist who tweeted literal Nazis stormed the Capitol. And I'm like, dude, the life magic shaman who thinks he's an alien. I don't think he's a Nazi man. I think he's just unwell. You know why I think it is? Because they've been dosing kids with aspartame since the 80s and they're a bunch of grown kids thinking that they're still watching cartoons and they're expecting like a

fantasy ending too many i don't know i don't i don't know about all that but people just don't want to live in reality man no and you know let's be honest about the social media aspect of it i mean we tend to amplify the crazy. That's what social media does. And that's why some of us are on it, right? Because we are fascinated by the lunacy. And that's all that this is. Now, does it strike me as a little bit more lunacy than at least I expected? Yes. Because even, you know, on my radio show, as I talk about what happened, and I call it a riot riot and I say the president was wrong. I didn't think it was impeachable, but I did say he has some responsibility here.

Immediately, you just get immediately attacked that you're not allowed to criticize Trump at all. And as much as I don't like the whole cult of personality narrative and talking point that has been used, this was the first time at least I've noticed it just outwardly absurd. Yeah. It just went too far. And, you know, it's good to be loyal. It's not good to be blindly loyal. I think many of us, you know, because I've done so many segments defending the president.

I think it was Dave Smith, the comedian who pointed out that you want to criticize him, but the critics of Trump are so insane. You're forced to look at the direction and say, no, no. Like, you know, they'll claim, you know, Donald Trump could walk past a dog and smile and they'll claim that he tried to kick it or something. Or like the fish thing with Shinzo Abe, where he poured the food into the pond because Shinzo Abe did. But they zoom in and make it seem like he did something wrong. So instead of being able to be like, Trump should do this better, the media is doing worse. You know, now I think what's happening is we're at this point where most people, most of them, especially those who had been defending the president, recognize he's out and Joe Biden is about to come in. But there are some people who are used to hearing the defense of Trump,

who liked it, who have kept going. They've never stopped. So for, you know, people like us, you know, you mentioned on your show, you criticize or, you know, say things like it's over. We put the brakes on and we're like, well, as far as this train goes, and they just went off the tracks and they keep going. That's why it's crazy when you see Lin Wood getting as many retweets as he was getting.

Like that's, that's, he was getting like 20,000 retweets when he would say things like Mike Pence is a traitor and the firing squads. Like, what are you talking about? You know what I mean? Like, where's this coming from? I tell myself it's a lot of people retweeting and saying this is insane because I don't want to believe. No, no, but these are not quote tweets. Like you can quote tweet and say this guy's nuts because I did. And then I had a lot of

people respond and say i don't know we'll see how it plays out and i'm like sure i guess but come on man we don't live in a movie possibly happen i mean seriously what could possibly happen i i god bless the imaginations of a lot of people and it pains me to say that because look i'm a republican i'm a conservative i supported trump i was critical when he deserved to be criticized, but I sort of had the same position of the other side has gone so over the top in criticizing everything. My natural tendency was to defend, even in instances where I wouldn't normally give that kind of leverage or leeway to a politician because of how over the top the other side was.

It's a little bit too much. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because we've been told by the left for the last four and a half years, a riot like what happened or the siege was going to happen. We were told that. And every time they said that in the past, we're like, there's been no violence. Everyone relax. Meanwhile, there was actual violence on the left in which they completely ignored it. And then the time it does actually happen, and I'm not downplaying it, there was actual violence on the left in which they completely ignored it. And then the time it does actually happen and I'm not downplaying it.

It was incredibly serious, symbolically way more damaging to this nation, I think, than six or seven months of BLM riots or Antifa riots because of just what it stands for. But y'all didn't say anything that defended it. Kamala Harris raised money for them. It really is absurd, and it just feeds into this culture, this environment, that's allowing for this to continue. I don't think this is going to stop because of how people are reacting. Jason, you made a good point before saying how people are fascinated by what's on social media. I would even go further and say that they're captivated by it. And because of the echo chambers, because of the censorship efforts, I would say that's one of the ingredients that is causing some of the madness that we're experiencing right now. Because

if people were able to talk through, were able to communicate honestly without any censors, without being put into the dark corners of the internet i think things would be a lot calmer and i think now with everything happening it's only going to get worse because those same ingredients are only added on instead of being reduced to this crap pie that's in front of all of us the the real money right now in political commentary the left absolutely if if you know if if i if i was the grifter they claimed i was i I'd be 100% on board for Biden and all this Democrat stuff. And I'll tell you why. The beanie would be pink.

Well, yes. It would have little ears. Yes. No, here's the reason, though. If you say things like what Lin Wood is saying, oh, you're banned in two seconds. If you say there was fraud or anything like that, they smear you. They defame you. They take away your ads.

They boot you from sponsors. And they ban you outright but if i were to do a show where i claimed trump is a fascist dictator this proves it the lindell meeting proves there's a coup attempt and we all must stay vigilant and that it's russia and we know it well they'll promote it so it's a joy reach they'll they will boost it yeah yeah right right rachel mad Rachel Maddow. So that's the imbalance. There is money to be made by pushing the leftist narrative, even when it's unhinged. But on the right, you're banned in two seconds. But how does that change?

So you have Trump out of office. You've got Biden in there. Let's do the first 100 days will be, oh, how refreshing it is. We now have a real president there and they'll fluff everything up. I have. And then what? I have a feeling on this show we're going to be like day two, Joe Biden has bombed 17 kids again. And then the media is going to be like, if we could even find out about it because of all the censors of all the legitimate news

organizations that actually do talk about American foreign policy. If you if you remember during the presidential debates, this wasn't even a topic of debate. This wasn't even a topic of discussion. Well, they canceled the second one, to be fair. So we might not even know what's happening outside because of all the communications lines being controlled and being censored. But what I think is going to happen is going to be very fascinating because these organizations, these groups, these larger ideologies are predicated on attacking, on going after and being offensive instead of defensive. So I truly do believe that after the first 100 days after Trump, they're going to start eating their own. They're going to start attacking each other, tearing each other to shreds because all that's left is them.

And they're going to find some kind of microaggression. They're going to find some kind of privilege. They're going to find something to eat each other apart because there's no one else to hit. Well, so they're already starting to go after Fox. And so my assumption is they're going to continue to do that. Oh, yeah. But you're right, I think.

At some point, so CNN brands themselves now, they're just the anti-Trump network. That's what they do, which is msnbc is supposed to do and msnbc is at least honest about their brand this is they they're leaning forward and cnn was lying but now they're in direct competition with a democratic house senate and white house so they're going to have to go after each other. You can go after Fox all you want. It's not going to work. But I hear that, you know, was it AT&T owns CNN now? They want to sell.

Jim Acosta. We'll just say reassigned. I won't say fired. What else is going on? They canceled the airport. CNN airport is gone as of March. I think they realized that the only thing that kept them floating was Donald Trump. Yeah.

It was truly a glorious past four years of unhinged desperation, screaming at the top of their lungs about Trump nonstop. That's what happens. You open up CNN, you turn on CNN. It's just everyone's screaming and Trump without him. I think they're going to try the Trumpism angle. Trumpism. Oh, the problem is going to try the Trumpism angle. Trumpism. Oh, the problem is they've already banned all these people.

Twitter purged the QAnon people. What are they going to complain about? So I think you're right, Luke. They're going to start looking. So here's what happens. They get rid of the right. What's left? Moderates.

When the moderates are gone, liberals. And then there's going to be eating each other like it's a Ouroboros. And then from my kind of understanding, I do see elements of the far left getting attacked first because they're the most vocal ones but the the institutional power is amongst the the corporatist the sellouts the establishment so i think right after the moderates it's definitely going to be the farther left the kind of a not even i don't even i don't want to say aoc because she's more establishment now than anything else but anyone kind of representing these ideas i think it's going to get the boot but another interesting factor to really kind of remember here is that

before donald trump was president the mainstream media ratings their viewership was tanking going down and there's a legitimate argument to make that Donald Trump saved the mainstream media. That's a fact. Saved CNN, saved all these national media organizations that actually were going out of work because people were saying, I'd rather go on the internet and watch people that look like me, that talk like me, that are actually genuine and not represented by these bigger, larger interests that just spew talking points and narratives at me for their political goal. He raised them as like undead. They were were dying i won't let you fully die i like to imagine jeff zucker at cnn right now is like you know he's turning the lights off he's you know he's like you know pulling on his shirt straightening his tie and looking at the studio as everyone leaves and the doors close and then he walks up to this giant golden statue of donald trump tear comes in his eye and he wipes and he goes, thank you. Thank you.

You know, I think that probably won't happen. But I was imagining that the news media would start to go after Biden. If Biden does something really stupid, because they want to put Kamala in office. So they'll wait until Biden pulls the trigger on too many drone bombs or the economy tanks and they can all put it on Biden. I don't think it's going to happen. Not the drone thing, dude. They will never criticize a president for war. They used to go after Bush, though, pretty hard.

Yeah, he's a Republican. They're not going to. Obama, how many people? Obama killed Americans. Obama literally was like, it's an American. Blow him up. Teenage American citizens were assassinated by the direct...

More than one teenager? It was one teenager. I don't know the exact thing. I think Obama killed, I think it's four Americans, but specifically I can name two of them, Anwar al-Awlaki and Abdulrahman al-Awlaki. It's a 16-year-old American kid

who was visiting, he was from, I think he was from Colorado. He was trying to find out who his father was. And he went traveled to yemen and obama ordered a drone strike on a civilian uh cafe in a country where not it's we're not at war with yemen and then blew up a civilian restaurant killing an american citizen and the media is like oops or i'm sorry i'm sorry the media went to obama and he went it was a mistake. And they were like, good enough for us. Pack it in, boys.

We got an answer. Bye, everybody. And then Donald Trump ordered the hit, I believe, on the sister. And then, again, we didn't hear anything about it. Yeah, I know, I know. And then, you know, when Donald Trump becomes very aggressive with his military, the mainstream media cheers him on. They applaud him. They say it's beautiful.

It's great. He's showing leadership. So they're not going to do that. But hold on. But I do think you have a good point, Ian. They'll find something else as an excuse because they want Kamala. They might, yeah. But I don't think so.

But like two or three years in. I think there's maybe a reason. Like maybe now what will happen is we have, I think, Marjorie Taylor Greene says she wants to impeach Biden on day one. Yeah. Maybe they'll go, oh, no. Oh, geez. I guess we'll have to impeach and convict. Bye, Biden. Kamala. Yay. There we go. And that's not. No. Right. Right. But I mean, I can't imagine Joe Biden finishing out his term for for any reason, because primarily, I mean, first of all, he's an old guy.

But but not even just that they wanted Kamala. I really do think they were trying to prop up Kamala until tulsi gabbard dropped that nuke and it really really was damaging and hard to get around and so then she just disappears then joe biden all of a sudden becomes the front runner and then he picks kamala i don't know we heard the same exact thing about donald trump he's not going to last uh the four years he didn't even want it he's definitely not going to run for re-election he'll biden will make it the four year unless there's some you know health issue that we don't know about he might he he's almost certainly not going to be the external president yeah that that people might want or maybe they don't want that what why did so many external being out there being in being public facing doing a whole bunch of speeches my sense is he probably is not going

to be that president after the first year. I think they've noted the cognitive decline. And let's not be dissing him. He's of age where that happens. I think he's going to be in a wheelchair. They're going to roll him into the sunroom with a little blanket on his lap, and he's just going to snore away in the sun. Look, if that happens, though, the whole point of Joe Biden was to get a calming force in the White House who can then make it easier for a Democrat the next time around. I think it's a bad strategy if they think it's going to be Kamala Harris. And I think you're right. I think they intended it to be. And she did not perform nearly as well as she was supposed to. Let me ask you, Tom, why?

Who is this political consultant that keeps telling people like Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris to laugh inappropriately and randomly? Well, and especially if you have the most irritating and grating laugh. God bless them. But you know, it really is. There are some people who just have really unorganic laugh because it's fake. And when it's fake it's really really grating so just stop it just tell them to be like normal human being and you would have thought that they would have picked that up with hillary clinton who came off as presidential if you took away all the phony nonsense that cackling you know i just i honestly i just don't understand that

it was like you you've got the worst stereotype in the world. Let's have Hillary Clinton cackle all the time. Yeah. Calm down. It was the Botox, too. In 2006, she wasn't all Botoxed up. And then all of a sudden, she just got all face jacked and then started. It's the equivalent. I think they did it with Sarah Palin, too, which is like, really lean into the small town mayor thing and use all these isms.

And it came off as a little bit too phony whereas joe biden regardless of what you think about his policies as a personality he's likable he has a likable personality i don't trust it but it's a likable person you're saying you didn't like hillary clinton who had hot sauce in her bag when asked about it on a popular hip-hop radio show that didn't work for you? Or Kamala Harris who somehow managed to listen to rap before it came out? Yes. That was impressive. Or Andrew Yang

today who was at an exquisite beautiful store talking about how he loves the bodegas who left his bananas behind. I don't know if you've seen that cringy Andrew Yang video today. He left his bananas on the table. He bought them. He left he couldn't even peel or peel one and then he's like yes guys and he was in the most like amazing glorious story i could ever imagine he's like this is a bodega it wasn't about what's funny about the andrew yang running for mayor thing is

that his big campaign you know policy has always been universal basic income. And now he's proposing what I think may be the worst iteration of it, which is it's like $500,000 for low-income people in New York, which I'm sorry. I know it's cliche, but would just incentivize people to not work. Because what happens when you do things like this is someone could be on the threshold and say, I better work a couple less hours. Otherwise, I'll get kicked off these benefits. If that's, I'm giving a generalization to what his plan is, but more importantly, he's been criticized because, you know, theoretically, the plan could work at the federal level because the Fed can print and borrow money. New York can't. New York needs revenue.

So where are you going to get this money to just start giving out to New Yorkers? Especially as the rich folks are fleeing. Right. Well, they might be bailed out by Biden's new $1.9 trillion plan that he's putting forward, where he talks about giving tens of billions of dollars to states who are in need. New York City has been in need before COVID because of their overspending. Now that problem is exacerbated 20-fold, 100-fold, because again, as you said, all the people what

means are leaving the people who can't leave are stuck there and they're literally talking about changing all the office buildings into apartment buildings so who's going to want to live in a place where there's no jobs there's nowhere to work and you have the highest taxes in nearly all of the united states joe biden's plan as part of his new 1.9 trillion is an increase of the United States. Joe Biden's plan as part of his new $1.9 trillion is an increase of the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour. So across the board everywhere. You could be in the Oklahoma panhandle and make very little money. Well, good news, $15 an hour for everybody.

Well, all businesses have it. I mean, they all have that money just on standby. Of course, of course. They're just hanging on to it because they're greedy. Right, exactly. It's, you know, leftists totally get this, that all businesses everywhere at any given moment have millions of dollars just sitting in a bank account and that, well, they're like dragons sitting atop their pile of gold. They just don't want to give it to anybody. Especially in rural America, I'm told. Right, right. So what we need is a valiant knight like joe biden

to force those dragons to give up the gold to the townspeople problem solved is this for waiters too that are making 213 an hour getting right they're getting rid of or they want to get rid of the that wage tip uh lower minimum wage which because we did this in seattle and we had these conversations i you would be hard pressed to find a person who worked at a restaurant who wanted that idea. No one wanted that. They were like, we make so much more money under this current system. And they ended up getting screwed.

I'm down for not having to tip anymore. So that plan went through, and what were the effects of it? So we're still learning the long-term effects, because this wasn't that long ago. But one thing that we definitely saw happening was hours were getting cut because they were almost hitting that threshold where they were no longer able to get subsidies. But if they were to get off those subsidies because they're now making $15 an hour, now it's like 16 and 20-something cents, it's still not enough to live in seattle while

at the exact same time you have the seattle city council and the mayor's office constantly changing a whole bunch of different programs increasing taxes making it harder to build homes and apartments and so the cost of living continues to go up so it's it's ludicrous they just ended up changing the way that uber right share uh ride share model. So now you have to guarantee that they're making a minimum wage on top of all these new benefits, which Uber came out and said, okay, but as of right now, we're now 25% more expensive to the customers. By April, we expect it to be 40%. And so far, they're sticking. It's way more expensive. Well, that's good, though, because the cab drivers don't like Uber. Yeah, well, that's, of course, that's really what this is about.

But all the drivers are like, oh, this is great. We're going to make so much more money. Not if people don't take the Uber. Right. And if they do take the Uber, it's because they can now afford to take the Uber, which means your city is not appealing to the uh the the diverse diversity of a socioeconomic backgrounds you're now again catering to people who can't afford to live in seattle which is the exact opposite of what you said you wanted to do i gotta point out the dark truth about the restaurant industry uh

waiters that make three dollars an hour will subsist off of cash tips that they don't declare and don't pay taxes on the restaurant also does not have to declare it or pay taxes on it. That's existed since probably the beginning of time. They love it. If they want to change that and start forcing them to take salaries or huge minimum wages and then no tips, it's going to destroy the restaurant industry.

I know the IRS probably doesn't like to hear that, IRS, but that's the way the restaurant industry works. They get cash chips, they don't declare them. I don't think it'll destroy the restaurant industry, but I do think all current waitstaff will get a very large red pill shoved down their throat when they're like, my income just dropped by 60-something percent. And the restaurant will have to fire them because they can't front that money. It's tip money that they don't have to pay.

They'll increase the prices. Yeah. And then the waitstaff- And then people won't come in, and then they won't be able to pay enough waiters. Then they'll have to cut back on their waiters, and they won't have enough servers to serve the food. Their service will decline. People will stop coming in. It's just a downward spiral.

It's kind of funny how the politicians who promise to help the poor people the most are actually creating the most amount of poor people and serving and catering the super rich. I think you've seen this video, Luke, but there's a viral video. There's a video game. It's called, I forget what it's called, City State 2, maybe. And so there's this guy, he plays the games, he makes YouTube videos of his games,

and then he publishes them. Well, there was a really funny moment where he decided to create a city state that had no laws. And he was like, it's going to be chaos. It's going to be murder and poverty. And so he was like, no regulations, free market, everything, no taxes, no support, no police. And then as he progresses through the game, there's zero poverty.

Every building is becoming a luxury high rise. And he's laughing. He's like, what's happening? Everybody's rich. There's no protest. There's no poverty. There's no crime. Why is this?

And then a bunch of libertarians and ANCAPs and conservatives start sharing the video and they were like, progressive tries making an anarcho-capitalist dystopia turns into a utopia. So I'm not saying the video game is a perfect model for the real world, but I do think it is important to point out sometimes, actually kind of a lot of the time, the government tries to step in thinking they're smart enough as a committee to alter the economy of an entire city of millions of people, and that it's going to work. I'm sorry, man. Look, I'm not a laissez-faire capitalist by any means. I'm actually kind of left on economic policy. But I can be the first to tell you a decentralized network is going to be smarter and better at solving problems than a committee, than a small group of people who can't see the entire problem for what it is.

Well, especially when you're in these cities where it's kind of one party rule. I mean – and that's the same for conservatives. I imagine that if you had a large urban city and it was only run by conservatives, you're running into the same problems. I do think you need the person to tell you why they think you're wrong. Even if you ignore them the entire time, it does start getting into your head and you do start to question some of your own moves. And I do think that that ultimately leads to better decisions. But we've got so many cities from New York and Seattle and Portland and Minneapolis where that just does not exist. And we've seen the consequences of city halls run that

way. I mean, they're just unaccountable one party rule districts that, of course, we have to understand are laying the blueprints of what most likely will happen on a federal level with, of course, the federal government. When we're talking about Democrats' control of the Senate, the Congress, the executive office, we're seeing something that really is going to truly shape the future of this country. And now Biden's going to be bailing out all the horrible mistakes, all the horrible decisions that they made so what there's no incentive for them to actually face reality and the consequences of their horrible actions because biden's just going to come in and bail everyone out on and who's going to pay for that

the people who didn't make the bad mistakes the people who conserved their money saved their money are now going to have to pay more taxes and deal with more bullcrap because of other people's mistakes i'm gonna say the naughty words civil war and the reason why is what we're seeing right now appears to be a political civil war every four years and it's been increasingly getting worse 2016 was insane trump wins they scream russia the top of their lungs banging their heads on the wall rachel maddow is you know know, screaming. Chris Hayes. Jonathan Chaik goes on MSNBC and says Trump may have been an asset of the Russians since the 80s when they were part of the Soviet Union. It's just psychotic nonsense.

Impeachment, impeachment, investigations for years. Every see what happens is they use every political maneuver and every legal maneuver they have to try and destroy the other side. Now what's happening? We got Marjorie Taylor Greene on day one. She will she will file articles of impeachment against Joe Biden. The Democrats are now taking control of the federal government in terms of the Senate and the House.

I'm sorry, the Senate, the House and the executive branch. And then they're going to enact laws that large portions of the country does not want. The divide between the cultures of how people want to live are so dramatically different that when you get, you know, Democrats in office, it's they're going to what these policies Joe Biden's proposing, especially gun control, for instance, it makes no sense to raise the minimum wage in rural Oklahoma and ban them from buying guns when they live in the middle of nowhere. Why should the law for New York City be the same as this place?

It doesn't make sense. That's why we have the middle of nowhere. Why should the law for New York City be the same as this place? It doesn't make sense. That's why we have the system we have. But now that everything's becoming like hyper-federalized, what do we get? Republicans have to win at the federal level. Democrats have to win at the federal level. And we get to the point where

both sides continually increase the rhetoric against the other as they become more and more different and more and more opposed to each other's worldview than hatred, fear, and eventually violence. Which brings me to this next story. Business Insider says, according to Business Insider, Tucker Carlson mocks Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for thinking she might die during the Capitol riot in which five people died. You see how they do that headline? Look, I can't speak to as you know, to what Ocasio-Cortez is feeling or fearing. But we also have this story out from NBC where

they said some Democrats think their colleagues want to kill them or will kill them or whatever. AOC said she narrowly escaped with her life or narrowly avoided death. She said that she wasn't sure if she should go into the secure chamber because these her colleagues may reveal her location to the far right and white supremacists. And she literally calls members of Congress far right, white supremacists, white supremacist sympathizers. And that is insane. They're not.

They're just Republicans. But that kind of rhetoric of the other being an evil villain where they view them not as just a conservative but as literally a white supremacist and then saying she thinks she will die is some of the most extreme rhetoric i've ever heard in my life why are they throwing around the racial supremacy stuff because it's it's a tribal signal like you know you know it's literally the coded language that the left has said the right uses non-stop except they're and some folks on the right use coded language but they're very clearly using not even close to subtle language here they're flatly calling

someone a white supremacist and i take you know a Jew, if you tell me someone is a Nazi, I'm going to have a slightly different response than the average person. And so when you call someone a white supremacist, I would argue, especially because it's being done in bad faith, you are trying to incite violence. It's not merely trying to demonize the other side for political gain, which is clearly their intent. I just don't think they're thinking it all the way through. You know, the right many on the right will call the left communists or, you know, far left or whatever, socialists. And then I see a lot of comments from actual leftists where they're like, you know, conservatives call Joe Biden far left.

And that's absurd. And I'm like, that that absolutely is absurd. Joe Biden is establishment corporatist crony. He's not far left. But there's a big difference between saying Ocasio-Cortez is a socialist because she is and her saying they're white supremacists. One of those is maybe hyperbolic. One of those is extreme bad faith meant to manipulate and lie.

So I was thinking about this. I keep hearing about the double standard. I've reported on the double standard. I've reported on the double standard. The media will say the peaceful protests. The media will stand in front of a burning building and say, it's it's I know I know about the fire, but it's mostly peaceful, right? And then you get one event with Trump supporters. I'm not talking about the Capitol. And they'll say violent extremists and terrorists, and they'll amp it up to, you know, tenfold. And I was thinking about this. There's no point in acting like we should be shocked by this. It was Aris Racinos. I'm probably pronouncing

your name wrong. I always say that. He wrote for Unheard that conservatives should stop whining about this. There's no debate anymore. The left does not care. You've got two sides that want their rioters to be protected and want the other rioters to be arrested. Right. But I do think it's fair to point out conservatives are on the losing end of this because for too long they didn't realize the game the left was playing. Democrats and leftists say say this exact same thing of Republicans. But Republicans keep taking Democrats at their word

every step of the way. Democrats don't. They'll come out and say these riots are the voice. It's the language of the unheard and that you have to understand their anger. And then if any Trump supporters come out and just stand on the cap on the steps of the Capitol building in Michigan, they scream terrorist. You're a terrorist. When you have far leftists marching, you actually get conservatives defending their right to free speech, leftists marching, you actually get conservatives defending their right to free speech, saying, well, you know, they have the right to speak. And then when they smash windows and burn buildings down, conservatives complain. And the left says nothing. So I was wondering myself, at what point will conservatives have to realize

the left isn't playing by any rules? It's just manipulation of those who are unwilling to learn or have no idea what's going on. I think actually conservatives realized this a while ago without voting for Donald Trump, which brings me back to- And you're saying voters, not politicians. Yeah. Like the voters realized what was going on and said, give me Trump. And so there was a comment, we got a super chat a while ago where they said that when you have two factions and one is willing to use force to take what they want and the other isn't. Well, then you just you'll have a conflict.

But when both sides when the other side decides they're going to start fighting back, then you have a war. Well, that's where we are now. Right. It's not it's not I'm not saying hot war in the sense of like literal like people marching on a battlefront. I mean, you have Democrats who have been by any means necessary trying to take power. They literally say those words. And Republicans kept acting like there was a fair game here. So the example is universal condemnation, conservatives and Democrat, Republicans and

Democrats, conservatives and liberals about over the Capitol riots. Black Lives Matter, only conservatives. There's clearly someone not here playing the game. And so as long as conservatives keep assuming that there's an actual game to be played, they'll keep losing. I think there's a calculation from Republicans that will be by allowing it to go on, the voters will get sick of it and connect the dots on their own, or by pointing it out, they'll connect the dots and get sick of it and connect the dots on their own, or by pointing it out, they'll connect the dots and get sick of it and vote these people out. And I think the instincts there are correct.

I think what was not calculated was the Trump effect, because Trump is very disruptive to the traditional way we have our leaders, how they act. He was, by being so open on Twitter, for example, and I say this about him all the time, where he is the most transparent president we've ever had, because he just tweets his thoughts. But that makes him very vulnerable. That makes it very easy to go after him. It makes it very easy to say he is too disruptive. And then you've got someone like a Joe Biden. Because remember, when you had all the Democrats coming out, there were a whole bunch of people who are very, very, very far to the left and Joe Biden. Joe Biden was the one who came out because I think people instinctively understood that they didn't want to go very, very, very far

because they did that once with Trump from a personality perspective, and it didn't turn out so well in their view. They wanted to calm things down. down and so i do think and we'll find this out in two years did is that the was it trump that got in the way of a republican strategy to sort of sit back point out all of the biases point out the double standards point out how crazy they are and just let them yeah hurt i think he did because he would get on twitter and be like the far leftists are something something galvanizing this group of people and turning them into this faction and he was the president and he would say that there was a far left movement and there wasn't but then he helped create one that's by saying there's definitely a far left movement i think he got

in the way it wasn't organized until he started talking about it. That's absolutely not true. And giving them something to all hate. Bro, you just didn't see it. It's been going on for a long, long time. I was on the ground at Occupy. I watched what these people were doing. And it was even before Occupy.

I was at Occupy. I wasn't a far left extremist. Then you weren't paying attention to the facilitators. It was down with the Federal Reserve. No, no, no. Absolutely not, bro. The facilitators who took over were intersectional cultists. I saw that, dude.

They owned. I was told I couldn't speak because I was white. Exactly. They took it over. I watched this all happen. That was years before Trump. That was five years. Trump is not the cause of.

Trump didn't turn people into this. He was. He's a symptom of what's happening. He just galvanized it. I don't think so. I think he's a manifestation of the anger people were experiencing, and that's why he's an imperfect avatar. He was just the guy who was there that people put their anger into. The system was broken.

Their jobs were stripped away. Free trade took these things from them, and they saw the game wasn't being played fairly. Yes, for the people who voted for him. And the one thing that we all have to remember is he did not win the popular vote, which I do think puts a little bit of a wrinkle in that argument because he won based on the Electoral College vote. Narrowly. Narrowly. And it was a smart strategy the way that he did it. And he definitely connected with those voters who felt exactly that way. But when we go from a popular vote perspective, we can't simply ignore that part for that explanation. And that's why I still think you throw him out. It was an anomaly election.

It was. He is an anomaly candidate, which is why he didn't win a second time. I don't necessarily blame the pandemic. Obviously, it did not help. I do think that when you have four years of the media that goes after the guy on everything that he does it does wear on people and i do 74 million votes the most of any sitting president i think the contributing factor was the media was screaming you turned on any news outlet except for fox news i guess and just imagine brian stopped going the whole time and so finally people are like make it, make it stop, make it stop.

And then you got regular people who didn't care, were forced into the political world because of the COVID lockdowns. They couldn't go out. They couldn't socialize. I know I know some people who have no business being in politics. They only tweet about it now. And I'm like, dude, you're you're you're a mechanic. You've never talked to this before in your life. And all of a sudden you're like the Democrat cheerleader. When the lockdowns happened, their normal communication was disrupted. The normal things they cared about, the video games, the movies, the sports. So they go on social media where it's all politics all the time. And then you force people into this room where everyone's just screaming. And then they beg it to stop and they vote for Joe Biden.

Yeah, look, I 100% agree with people wanted a reset to calm things down. I think Trump would have won if there was no COVID. If that didn't happen, obviously Trump would have won because we had Moody's analytics, numerous polls, forecasters predicting a Trump victory off of standard metrics. When COVID hit, a few of them still predicted a Trump victory, but many of them backed away because the economy was in the gutter. And as they say, it's the economy, stupid. But I think the biggest factor was, and it's partly, I think, well, I shouldn't say partly, I said in many ways, Trump's fault. Trump really went after the media.

He made it very personal for them. And he played to their egos and weaponized that. And that turned them against him to an extreme degree. He did that to people, just common people, too. Well, because Trump was like the media, it's lying, it's fake news. And he was constantly digging into them and going after them. They decided to make the fight personal. And so Jon Stewart brought it up. He said Trump played. You know, these journalists are very egotistical. So when Trump says something, they take it personally and go after. I've honestly never seen a president be so antagonistic since Nixon. Nixon was hated the hippies and the black Panther movement so bad.

And they did impeach Nixon. You could argue that Obama was antagonistic to the right. He criticized, he was, he was saying a lot of similar things about Fox news. It was in a different way. Right. Yeah.

You're right. He wasn't overtly like on Twitter being like those far right there was no twitter oh yeah there was twitter with well at the time when obama came in twitter was not prominent at all but he wasn't using his influence to like talk about the far right this is the first president to use twitter throughout an entire term and even though i think it's probably the wrong way to use it, we don't really know if it was the wrong way or not, because he's the first person to do it. No, I think I think there's I've talked to a lot of people throughout the past several years, and most of the regular people I've spoken to would say, you know, the ones that

supported him. Yeah, you know, I voted for him, but I just wish he wouldn't tweet. Yeah. And then he would and people would roll their eyes. And that was it he gave he gave so much fuel to the media to complain about i mean there were people journalists whose job was to wait for their phone to buzz with a trump tweet people built careers being reply guys to trump yep and that kept the cycle going if trump just didn't tweet for one month and said nothing

the news cycle would be forced down their twitter apply guys would be out of business but trump couldn't let it go there's like a phenomenon where you become addicted to pain i don't know if you guys ever felt like you have like a sore shoulder and then all of a sudden one day you change your posture your shoulder is not sore anymore and you miss tweaking it so you go ahead and you tweak it again and the soreness comes back and you're like oh there's that familiar have you guys ever done that no i'm alone in the room here so like it has a lot to do with posture like there's an addiction to to feeling something whether it's good or bad and i think people felt like that with trump's tweets trump trump would say something because the media would lie and then he found his way to speak to the people directly so then he would tweet out that's not

true that's fake news then the people who don So then he would tweet out, that's not true. That's fake news. Then the people who don't actually care about Trump, these like these reply bots and reply guys build a career off it. What happens is then they end up getting 700,000 followers, building a community that's only shared interest is orange man bad, which creates the narrative and keeps it. It fuels the hatred for trump trump needed to trump should have done two things left twitter and went to parlor or mines or any of these other platforms maybe pocket net and then shut up for a little bit you should have made a youtube channel he had

one he had one well we should have made daily video vlogs yep that would that would be amazing i think he should have said anything he no He over communicated. Yes, he did. That was his biggest issue. If you've got someone who is delivering, and this is COVID aside, you're killing it in the economy. You're absolutely killing it. From a conservative perspective, you are delivering on judges. You've got foreign policy decisions that generally are accepted by folks on the right. People needed a reason to vote against that.

Yep. And he would give it too often. Not always his fault, but he made it too easy. I'm starting to think that a lot of politicians, a lot of people in the media are understanding that the more extreme you could make a situation, the more extreme language you could use, the more emotional ammunition you have. But they keep forgetting that this leads to also extreme actions, and they don't really understand the full kind of ramifications behind it. And they're caught in this loop, trying to get all the attention, trying to get all the clicks. And I would say Donald Trump, especially with some of his more bombastic style, was also a part of that as much as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Now, I know people like to label these people as kind of populists, but also their strongest asset that makes people believe that they're populist, I believe, is also their Achilles heel, which should be understood in context here as well. Do you guys see that picture of Kathy Griffin holding Trump's head be's head beheaded yeah i'm not familiar it just started being recycled kathy griffin this comedian and but i'll tell you just so if you don't know look it up kathy griffin trump's head uh did a photo shoot where she was like and she was like in the middle of the shoot she's like let's just do this and held up trump's bloody head as if that's not incitation to violence like no spinning things towards what they've become.

And she didn't get banned off Twitter. She got fired from CNN. Well, she didn't get banned off Twitter. And she had a mental breakdown and was like, my life is over. And she was crying and begging for her job back. She went nuts. And then she doubled down later

because her life's already destroyed. Think about the level of psychosis on the left you have to get to before they actually do anything. She's still on Twitter after posting that. Like you were saying, on the right, you can say, learn to code. Gone. Yeah. Like, that was really a...

Insane. I mean, it was a free artistic expression, I suppose, to hold the president's head up all bloody and beheaded. If you want to do it with Biden, would that be okay now? Well, I think someone already tried it with Biden and was taken down. Yeah. Did that. Yeah. I'm'm not surprised i remember hearing something i was surprised it is free expression and it's also odious there you go yeah and it can i think it contributed to like to this capital riot i think what we need now is the next person that needs to leave office is probably ocasio-cortez because I think she might be one of the most high profile and bombastic politicians we have.

I think she's very, very much like Trump. I mean, you look at the things she says that we were just talking about where she's like, I narrowly escaped death. My colleagues are white supremacists who might kill me. It's like, dude, you're making it all worse. Calm down. Lauren Boebert is not a white supremacist she's not going to hurt you she's just a five foot tall woman who wants to have a gun people have guns lots of them calm down yeah but i mean she is acting the way that you would expect someone that age to act on social media that it's all about lauren bobert the same age is she uh i think she's a little bit older, actually.

Yeah, she's got three boys. But still, they're both, I think, AOC's in her early 30s, Lauren's in her mid-30s. She's a millennial. And that's generally how, not all millennials, that is generally how millennials act on social media. Sure. This idea that she's somehow against type. Arguably, she's going.

I don't care how she acts. The issue is, we need everybody to chill out. Yeah. And start talking. And she is setting things on fire. And don't get me wrong. Trump did, too. I think she's very much like Trump.

OK, now Trump's been banned from everything and they're all cheering for it. OK, great. If we're going to be banning people, then she's got to get banned, too, because she says inflammatory stuff. Now, the left defends her and they'll be like, that's not true. Of course's got to get banned, too, because she says inflammatory stuff. Now, the left defends her and they'll be like, that's not true. Of course, on the right defense, Trump. I don't care. Listen, you don't get to act like you are absolutely perfect.

They can come out and say Trump's got to go because he's inflammatory. And simply by saying, remember this day, he's inciting violence. OK, well, then when AOC comes out and says Republicans are white supremacists who are going to kill me, what do you think is going to happen if she keeps saying that? What about when she referred to the immigration centers as concentration camps and double down? I'm not going to say she should be banned for that, okay? What I'm saying is she's allowed to her opinions, and I think she's crazy. But when you have people who are claiming Trump is the problem and she's doing basically the exact same thing, are you going to call her out next?

No, they're not. They're going to defend her. Yeah. And a lot of this is the responsibility of the media, because the truth of the matter is those of us who are on Twitter, we are still few and far between who pay that close attention to most of this. Tucker Carlson, most watched cable news show in history, is not reaching hundreds of millions of people, right? And so the average person, I don't think, is getting this information. They are aware of who she is because she's really good at building her brand. They probably have an opinion of her, but I bet you if you asked them some specific questions, probably couldn't answer them about her.

And the same – I mean we know about Donald Trump. You go to a college campus. We've all seen the stupid videos. You ask a bunch of questions and no one knows what they're doing. So I think that that's the average person. And so that's really on the media to sort of step up and start reporting this more. And it can't just be Fox News. It can't just be one-offs here and there.

They have to actually commit to it, And they're just not going to. Tucker was the the biggest show in cable until he came out against Sidney Powell or just questioned the evidence. And then his ratings got cut in half. And now Fox News is dead last. Isn't that crazy? I mean, it's not necessarily a bad thing. What happened was when Fox News challenged Sidney Powell, Tucker Carlson was like, where's the evidence?

And everybody fled. They went to OAN and Newsmax. So there's some diversification among conservative news channels. What it really reveals is that while Fox News may have been number one at the time, in terms of conservative content, it was dead last. Just because there was only one channel. One channel means all the conservatives go there. So you got ABC, NBC, CBS, MSsnbc all these networks and their left perspective there's

substantially more viewers on the left perspective than the right that's been that it's been that way for for a long time except i think in talk radio i don't think left has an equivalent of anything they tried and they failed uh many times there's there's been is it i think because you can get the content anywhere else. What do you mean? The left-leaning and flat-out left content you get everywhere. Right, right, right. And so that they did not get involved in the radio side early enough, they weren't able to really defeat what conservative talk radio has built. Now, there are some exceptions to that around the country, right, in some of the bigger cities. Now with YouTube, there's indefinite exceptions. A lot of very big names doing political commentary and talk on the left. So, I mean, I think it's a good

thing that if YouTube actually ends up allowing it. The problem is there are elements on the left, groups like Media Matters, for instance, that will just pump out fake news and YouTube just says yes. So, you know, we had Media Matters wrote about us recently claiming that because Jack Murphy, who was on the show, said Donald Trump gave concrete examples of voter fraud. He didn't say Donald Trump gave proof. He said examples of. So I believe that's what he said. Maybe I'm getting wrong. They claimed that we were pushing disinformation and then demanded YouTube demonetize the content. So the show is still monetized. But the fact that they're trying to go after us simply because we're talking about what Trump said is a level of depravity you don't see from the right to the left. The right isn't going after the left and calling corporations to get them stripped and removed because they don't believe in it.

Maybe they used to. The liberal media is more focused on the way things look that their that their listeners or their viewers uh their viewers actually learn by watching whereas conservative people learn by listening and so that's why they're drawn to more radio and you see like rachel maddow with her her perfect posture and and done up hair and like it's all they call him the orange man. Like they're talking about the way he looks. But so it's less about, I think that's an interesting observation. That might be something to the way people learn. Maybe the left tries to claim that talk radio succeeded on the right because people on the right are dumb and

just follow the leader. And so you'd get a Bill O'Reilly or a conservative personality and then they would just, you know, cluck along following. I don't think that's true. I think that's actually the left. The left turns on CNN and accepts it all as law as if it's true. And then you can see how the guardians like my pillow guy pushes, you know, martial law when we don't even know what's on those papers. Like, we don't know why it says that. For all we know, it says invoking martial law in the event. And then the part that's missing says something happens would be really bad and we should never do that. We don't know what the remainder of that sentence was. It was all about what it looked like.

Whereas like James O'Keefe, it's all about what you hear. Well, another element to really kind of comprehend here is that when someone is trying to silence people, they don't have the moral high ground. So when you have examples by media matters, we're also seeing other reports right now of CNN, NBC News, New York Times trying to go after Signal and other encrypting messaging apps. When we see Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talking about, we need to ban Pollard, we need to put people on list, we need to censor the internet, we need to rein in the media, we're seeing individuals who are so scared of ideas, of them being challenged with just words, sounds, that they have to punitively silence and make sure that those ideas don't even get discussed or even thought about. They're at such a point in their life where they want to control what you can even think. So when you're coming from that point of

view and you're surrounding yourself with the biggest apparatuses of the police state, when just a couple weeks ago, you were totally apprehensive against the police state. Now they're surrounding themselves with, what is it, 25,000 armed troops that have shoot to kill orders that are transferring Washington, D.C. into a fortress. When you have those kind of larger institutional powers fomenting themselves fortifying themselves in you really have something to to worry about and consider moving forward that's why i said they're not playing by any rule set no they're just like oh the cops are all bad and then once the cops are arresting trump supporters are like the cops are our friends well it's a you really don't want to do violence against the government i think it's an example of

why because it freaks out the politicians and then they surround themselves with 25 000 shoot to kill cops well it depends who's committing who's committing the violence who what political cause is behind the violence that storm the capitals that's one example but there's other examples of entire police departments being sieged there was there was other events of of buildings being lit on fire people inside of them there was other events where people got shot and killed during the middle of protests just a couple weeks ago. I would say that's political violence. It's like municipal violence.

There was political violence. The only problem is it was called out by the right-wingers when it was happening on the left, but when it's happening on the right, it's called out by right-wingers and left-wingers, rightfully so, but it should always be called out because when you use violence politically, everyone loses, and you're destroying the dialogue that could prevent it.

There are some people who would prefer to live in a Mad Max-style world. Like, there are some people that want to watch the world burn, and there are some people that genuinely believe, if I can't have it, no one can. And they'd rather burn it all to the ground than lose the fight. That's crazy. I don't think that's true that people believe that not that i don't think they really maybe they fantasize i don't think any who would want to destroy the world i'm not saying the majority but they exist it's not about destroying you know people like that have you have like have you been reading the news and following social media well you hear like like uh what do you call it like um hyperbole but i've never met anyone like that

that if you the way i describe it is when you open twitter just picture a guy screaming at the top of his lungs twitter is you scroll scroll through everyone there are people on the left and the right there are people on the right who are saying they will not there was a voicemail left this guy got arrested leaving a voicemail saying that they will never allow a Democrat to go into these buildings and that they would do some really, really bad things I can't repeat. Do you know what happens if there's an actual civil war? It is, look at Aleppo. You guys ever see the photos of before and after in Aleppo?

It's a town in Syria. Beautiful city. After the war, rubble and death. Dude, if there was a real civil war, they would be targeting laser-targeted drone strikes on houses. Like, they know where you live. Do not go to war with the U.S. government. It's not about the U.S. government. Do not go to war with the far left because the U.S. government is backing them.

A civil war is two factions fighting over control of one government. Or, in some definitions, factions trying to leave or split a government. It's not like there's three factions. There's the establishment and the populist left and the populist right. We don't exactly know what's going to happen, but elements of the military and elements of law enforcement are being split among the left tribe and the right tribe lines. So it's not going to be laser drone strikes. It's going to be, it would literally be military fighting military or people just fighting people. But I also think we need to consider when we talk about this is the generations of warfare. We're not in the, you know, look, we don't fight with swords anymore.

We don't fight with bows and arrows. I mean, I guess you still kind of could use a compound bow in warfare. It's probably effective in certain guerrilla war tactics. But for the most part, war changes. You know, I love that saying from fallout the video game war never changes actually changes a whole lot the weapons change but we used we used to hit each other with fists then rocks then we we made swords and clubs it then we got horses then we got you know guns then we got missiles and then we've escalated over and over again and now we're in propaganda and information warfare. So the point I'm trying to make is I see the comments on social media from people who are saying they would rather conflict, chaos, blown up buildings and all that if it means they don't give up and their ideology persists or whatever. But that's why it's so important to push back nonviolently. I mean, the whole even talking about civil war makes me uncomfortable because it does, I think, inspire some of the crazies.

And they do exist. I don't – I agree. Like, they're not the largest sum by any means. It's probably less than a half of a percentage point. But they do cause a lot of the problems. And so we have to figure out a way to address it. And I think it is condemning it. Well, most of the people calling for it have never really seen conflict.

When you look at a lot of people who did see warfare, who saw people trying to kill each other and saw people die, that's the last thing that they want. They're haunted by it. They have PTSD. that's the last thing that they want they're haunted by it they have ptsd and a lot of these vocal you know proponents a lot of these most violent voices or voices that have never been in combat don't even know what it is and it needs to be called out because again we all lose once that happens well and and stop talking about things as if we're currently in a war because we usually hear some of that on the left and it's coming from the anti-cop folks who are claiming, we're at war with the police.

They're shooting us in the middle of the street. It's like, no, we can have reasonable conversations about police reform if you'd like, but let's not pretend that cops are just roaming the streets of whatever city you're in, and they're just randomly shooting people. That's obviously not happening. So when people talk like that, it does, again, it's sort of that self-fulfilling prophecy. I feel like they're pushing in a direction where we shouldn't want to go. They're not doing it for that purpose.

They're doing it to win arguments. But it's dangerous. This is my criticism of AOC. You know, we can criticize Trump for his, you know, bombastic nature. But what AOC is saying right now is absolutely inflaming everything. I've been saying for the past, you know, a couple weeks now, everyone needs to calm down, meditate, go read a book, go out in nature, stay with your loved ones. And even a month or two before that, stay home, make money. That was something Mike Cernovich said and I agreed with.

Like, now's the time for everyone to chill. But there's a reality to this. I know a lot of people don't like hearing the phrase civil war. But what would you call it when you have escalating street battles for several years, one partisan group using every legal apparatus at their disposal to remove the president, ultimately now still trying to. And then it culminates with a year of mass rioting across the country defended by proponents of one political faction. Now you have proponents of one other political faction storming the U.S. Capitol building. So, you know, I think we're absolutely on that ground. It's certainly conflict.

We're definitely not civil war. We're at a cultural war, right? And there is 100% violence. When would it be a civil war? A civil war would be a little bit more engaged with both sides. I mean, we should not pretend that both the right and the left are doing it at equal levels as far as, you know, manpower, for example. And we're not seeing it widespread on both sides.

And I do think that that is a part of the issue. And there's also, there's, I don't know if we could say that there is an ideal yet that both sides are fighting for versus a person they're fighting against. I think there's certainly elements definitely on the left where they've got ideas that they're fighting for. On the right, I don't know that yet. Well, they're fighting against... They're fighting against other ideas, potentially. But again, the fighting is not really happening from the right.

Here's the main issue. I'll put it this way, as I've often put it. If this does develop into full scale hot conflict, then in 50 years, they will describe the moments of January 6 as well into the Civil War. Meaning we can go way back to the Berkeley riots where, you know, Antifa showed up and were bashing old Trump supporters and throwing explosives at them. So when I saw that stuff, I say, I usually say it like this. If everything were to stop right now and de-escalate, people would say there wasn't a civil war. If it does continue to escalate, then we are absolutely in a civil war right now. One faction just stormed the Capitol with the misguided and rather absurd attempt at some kind of shutting down of the of the electoral vote count process.

The people are saying it on these videos that are getting released now. More and more videos are coming out and they're saying things like, where's the count happening? You know, there's only one of them. It's only one person. We can stop when there's thousands of us. One video where a lady is giving instructions about where the Senate chambers are and how to get there. If you get to the point where you have a political faction storming into the capitol

building to subvert the political process that's literally the borderline definition of what civil war is if it's inspired by delusion do you count it as civil yes because everybody thinks their dictator is right everybody thinks their leader is the is the glorious leader you look at things that would happen like you look at what happened, and I'll tell you the main difference. The difference between the rise of dictatorship and a civil war is whether or not one side is armed and prepared to fight back. So you look at communist China. The communists just abused and obliterated and murdered and destroyed. You look at World War II Germany. There was a lot of fight fighting between factions in Weimar Germany.

But ultimately, the communist socialists fled because the legal system, at least to a certain degree, I'm reading now many of these people in government really liked them. They prefer the Nazi party over the communists. If you come now to where we're at now, it could possibly be there won't be a civil war because the left controls the cultural establishment and all you know basically the entirety of the federal government except for the you know supreme court for now if it just goes that direction and conservatives just eventually get steamrolled then no one's going to call it a civil war now now jason i would agree with you we're not in you know a civil war a lot of people use that kind of

language hyperbolically to also get clicks we We have to understand that. But we have to understand the future wars are fought not with bullets, tanks, or guns. They're fought with subversion, indoctrination, influence. And when we look at the term fifth generational warfare, I think there is something to consider about what is happening culturally, what is happening through social media, what is happening on the mainstream media, on Hollywood, that is having an effect that in part is leading to, I believe, a larger conflict. Maybe it's a conflict of ideas, but those ideas are paramount when it comes to the future of our children, the future of this country, and them turning out to be individuals that are self-harming, self-defeating, and people who destroy themselves

internally through their bad actions that are promoted. So that's something also to kind of largely consider here. And if you were a strategic kind of enemy, what would you rather do? Would you rather have a hot war where there's blood, where there's gore, there's so much violence, or would you rather have a war where you don't even have to shoot a gun? So that's something also worth considering. I have the University of San Diego article from Dr. Waseem Ahmad Qureshi, Fourth and Fifth Generation Warfare, Technology and Perceptions. And they basically talk about in fourth generational warfare, it's the blurring of lines between politics and, you know, and conflict and civilians. So a lot of people describe what we've been going through as fourth generational war because of the low intensity conflict and violence.

Things like Antifa smashing windows, burning things down, spray painting, you know, things about liberals. But what we're actually fully entrenched in is coming off of fourth generational warfare and moving heavily into fifth generational warfare. So fifth generational warfare is manipulation, perception, information, propaganda, etc. Like Luke was just saying, there was a reason why in the past you used force against somebody because you had no other means to gain control of a region or a group of people or a resource. Today, it's extremely easy. Propaganda and manipulation. That's why TikTok is so dangerous, controlled by Chinese interests and influencing our young people, telling them what to think and feel and what to do.

And it works. So right now you have online one side clearly losing in every respect. They're losing physical fights. Now, don't get me wrong. The Proud Boys, you know, have beaten up Antifa pretty badly and some of them have gone to prison for it. But if you look at the amount of damage Antifa has done and Black Lives Matter has done, they've caused massive damage across this country. While symbolically storming the Capitol was probably the worst thing we've seen yet, there's way more institutional and damage to the general public of this country, while symbolically storming the Capitol was probably the worst thing we've seen yet, there's way more institutional and damage to the general public of this country caused by the left and Black Lives Matter. So in terms of how much we are seeing the left push substantially more, 80, 20, 80 percent

of the of the pushing in the conflict is coming from the left. Cultural institutions, including news media, almost entirely dominated by the left right now. They frame everything as though the right is bad. The right being banned left and right, and all they do is beg their establishment conservative, you know, establishment Republicans to repeal 230 or something, which never happens and won't happen. So ultimately what happens is, in my opinion, Republican politicians are too stupid to realize

what's happening around them. And thus, they're now having their constituents purged. They will no longer be able to win a battle of ideas in the fifth generational conflict because they sat back and sat on their hands and did nothing. The left was fighting a fifth generational war while conservatives were just sitting there saying like, well, now let's have a conversation about it. When you nationalize elections. Well, but when you look at the House results, for example, I mean, the Democrats were supposed to win a whole bunch of House seats, and they didn't quite the opposite. And I think that, you know, that goes to certainly the rural versus urban city divide. And it's definitely a right versus left at that point. But I do think

the closer you get to the people in most of the country, the Republicans tend to do better when facing the crazy on the left. Now, when it's both moderates going or perceived as moderates going up against each other, then it really is. That's local politics. But think about AOC saying they're all white supremacists and Nazis and then raising millions of dollars and getting 12 million followers. Lies work. And the conservatives aren't playing on the same battlefield. They're getting wiped out. Kind of reminds me of the 60s. Like Nixon had the well, Lyndon B. Johnson had the left of the 60s was like the military industrial complex using the media. And back then they had just television and they used it to manipulate. They had Project Mockingbird that was like the CIA was paying and extorting these media companies to pass their lies and manipulation. And the hippies

and the Black Panthers were just subverted. And they were totally pressed and beaten down, kind of like you would say the right is being right now. They were organizing, but they couldn't contend with that media. And I just read 40 people died in the civil rights movement, 41 people. So it was, we would never call that a civil war ever. No one's ever even thought to, I've never thought to refer to that era as a civil war. It was just unrest. It was like what we're going through now. That's what I see now. Yeah. But I guess that was still remnants of the actual civil war. You still had the Democrats for the most part up until a certain point being the party of the actual civil war you still had the democrats for the most part up until a certain

point being the party of the clan and jim crow and the racists so it was almost like it never ended this is the crazy thing you know i just i'm watching that new movie it just came out have you seen it news of the world if you've heard of it uh i watched about half of it so far and it's you don't you didn't like it well i'm halfway through and i'm entertained i'm not gonna pretend it's the greatest movie in the world. But it's interesting because Tom Hanks, he plays a former Confederate soldier in Texas. And you've got Union soldiers in Texas. And you can hear the rhetoric from the local Southerners, how they feel about the North and what really drives their anger.

And it's interesting to see this movie highlight these people are saying rich Northerners trying to force us, you know, tell us how we have to live and what we have to do. Obviously, Civil War was very much about slavery. But there was a big element of that's not too dissimilar to what's happening today. But anyway, the reason I bring it up is, in some ways, the Civil War never ended. You know, this is the crazy thing. Reconstruction ended in 1876, when there was this hotly contested battle over the presidency and opposing electors were sent to D.C. and they didn't know what to do. So they elected a panel to just basically negotiate what was going to happen to avoid the outbreak of the Civil War again.

And what they decided basically was to end Reconstruction and they would give the Republic and the presidency. From there, you ended up with the Klan. These elements still existed. They still fought. It made its way into the civil rights movement. And now we have something weird and different, but it's still the tribes and the cultures are so dramatically different in these big cities in California, in New York, in Chicago versus in southern cities and southern states. But more importantly, the urban versus rural divide is extremely profound and dramatic. And you've got, because of the internet, the ideological split becoming more and more extreme.

Maybe the reality is there's elements of what this country went through that never went away and constantly keep getting seeded in some fashion in different ways. Or maybe it's just this country is way too big. And people in different states want to live in different ways. So someone in New York trying to pass a law on how people in West Virginia got to live, that's not going to fly with people in West Virginia. They're like, I mean, that's a whole guiding principle behind states rights, but it's being ripped away. It is. But that's why we have elections. And I don't believe that these elections are a lost cause for Republicans. I think in two years, we're going to see that shift.

And historically, we tend to. Well, I think in two years, the states are affected by those things more than a lot of the city areas. And when you look at the base, they're slowly but surely killing themselves off in many instances, especially with the high suicide rates. So that's also something to consider. I kind of like to think they're actually being strangled out by these trade agreements set up by namely Democrats, where they took many of these manufacturing plants and sent them overseas. Trump was one of the reasons why, actually, I should stop there and say the Koch brothers and Republicans were very much in favor for a long time as well. I think that's why you get Donald Trump, because he said to these people in these

places where the factories had been ripped away, I'm going to renegotiate for you. I'm going to fix this problem. That's what people wanted. So I look at a lot of these towns. I spent a lot of time looking at dying towns because I was thinking of like, where can we move and set up a studio with good internet that actually has some infrastructure? And it's sad to see. I read about a bunch of different cities in, you know, in middle America that were once thriving. And the factory got sent to Mexico. Factory got sent to China.

And now their population's in rapid decline. People are dying. When people have no purpose is when they die. I was reading, there's a documentary on blue zones, people who live over 100 in like high numbers. And one of the things they mentioned is that when people retire, that's like the most likely time of death for a person is right after they retire because they no longer have a purpose. They're not doing anything. They're wasting away. So what we've seen with COVID especially, people sitting at home, they're just wasting away. They're getting out of shape.

Their blood is getting really bad. And they're like, you know, atrophying, getting depressed, a lot of suicides. So, you know, I don't know. Long story short. I grew up outside of Akron. It was a depressing hellhole. It was like a rubber rubber the rubber boom in the 50s good year was founded in akron and then after they stopped uh porting all that rubber out the

city everyone just moved out so i grew up in that like excavated shell of a of a no it wasn't a megalopolis but it was a huge city in the 50s and man was it depressing yeah but what we're seeing right now is some of those big progressive cities are starting to die they're not dying the uh quick death uh that some people are saying but they are starting to show signs of that kind of decay when you look at seattle and san francisco new york just looking at the homeless population the opioid epidemic it is out of control in the little towns like kaihoka falls where i'm from the opioids are from what i'm not there so i don't i'm not seeing it and i graduated high school and left the city when you know in the in the 90s so it hadn't struck yet it was after we we invaded afghanistan that we really started bringing all that poppy in and making all the heroin well

for the uh what do they call oxycodone and stuff and now the kids are getting pills off the street or without a prescription and apparently it's just well so here's my question for you jason uh why is it that every single generation in the past hundred years has been further left than the previous i think you think my assumption is they think they have to be because especially the way that we frame it right we have to be progressive we have to move forward and you see a problem and so okay we haven't evolved enough and they've been told that the only way to evolve is to change your way of thinking not go back but go forward and that's the only place that they could go i do think think that there is a heavy... But what does forward mean?

Forward means to them not going back to the way things might have been. And when you're talking about policies around homelessness and crime, certainly from a progressive point of view, going back is not where they want to go because they say that there are... Well, now you're criminalizing poverty, and they use those kinds of terms. And because they say that there are – well, now you're criminalizing poverty. And they use those kinds of terms. And I do think that people are susceptible to that way of thinking and they feel bad about it. They don't want it. And so they're willing to give a progressive a shot at that next great progressive thing that will cure whatever the city is probably.

But why do conservatives do it? Why is it that a conservative will, in five years, become much more liberal or progressive? I don't know if I believe that. I think it depends on where you're talking about. Look at Donald Trump, Republican president. 90% of the Republican Party supports him, and he's the first president to support gay marriage

before entering office. Yes, I do think that societally, you're going to have shifts in opinions, and that's always going to happen. at that I think are right on. And I think that progressives might start to make the move. I think you're starting to see a lot of that in some of the cities when dealing with crime and homelessness, for example. We may see liberals and Democrats become more in favor of gun rights, considering many of them are now gun owners, especially this year. We're not seeing it yet. But it takes time. But when you look at the policies of what

Democrats, liberals, progressives propose, eventually Republicans give in and adopt those policies. Again, sometimes it depends on where you live. It really does. I mean, the thing about Donald Trump was and we heard this from the beginning. He's not really a conservative. He identified with the conservatives because he thought he could win that way. And then, of course, we have the people who voted for him, not necessarily because of his conservative bona fides, right? They did it because of what he stood for. They liked what he stood for. He certainly delivered on some key conservative issues. Although I don't necessarily think it was him, but it's federal judges being appointed, which has a significant, significant impact on the ways our laws are interpreted and enforced in this country. And I think that's how he's going to be remembered without being actively remembered.

That's going to be his impact. And so I think that we have enough checks and balances to stop some of that stuff, that sort of shift too far to one side. Now, it can change. You pack the court. That does significantly change things. Do they have the votes right now? No, they don't appear to have the votes right now. Could they in another election? Yes, which is why a smart Republican party will really nail down the focus. And I think it's easier to focus on the issues when you don't have a candidate or a sitting president who makes it all about him, like an AOC makes it all about her. Right. Yeah, there's a lot of people are saying that whenever a party gains too much power and

starts enacting everything they want, it freaks out moderates and the other side into action, and then they vote. And then we see this, you know, kind of back and forth. Is the Obama shellacking. I mean, that is a perfect example of that. You had all this control. You had all this power. People didn't want it. People did not want it. And even this time around, again, slightly different. We consider this a little bit of an anomaly as well, because we're in the middle of a pandemic. We decided to shift to mail-in voting, which I actually like. I don't like the way that it was done necessarily, but I'm a fan of mail-in voting if you do it correctly and you set it up and you actually spend time to make sure it's secure and can't be beat. I like that. That shifts things around and Republicans need to do a better

job about changing the way we talk about it. Donald Trump killed his candidacy, his reelection, by going so hard after mail-in voting. It was such a stupid strategy. I get why he did it. Well, he flip-flopped on it, too. He flip-flops too much, but on this, it hurt him so bad,

and it hurt in Georgia as well, because when you look at some of the numbers, it was small, the amount of Republicans who decided that they just were not going to vote or they were turned off by all this stuff. It was small, but it was enough to deliver the Senate to the Democrats. That was winnable. So if Republicans maintain control of the Senate, this conversation wouldn't happen in the same way. Some of the themes would come up.

So it was one election, one time, doesn't necessarily portend things to come. It could, right? It absolutely could. I'm just not sure, given the circumstances in which all of this went down and the people involved, I'm not sure it will again. Or at least back to what you said about the cities and them failing. We also have to understand they now have institutional support. Joe Biden is going to be bailing them out in the billions of dollars. The flyover states, the Republican states, they don't have a support base. They don't have any kind of institutional thing that helps them not be downtrodden. And I think they're going to be downtrodden more in the future. I don't know if I believe that yet. We will see when you look at Joe Manchin and how he supports what he ends up. I know he's kind of all over the place sometimes, but he just said he's a no on $2,000 check.

So let's see if he flips. And maybe he will. You have Sinema, who could switch things up too. I'm not 100% ready to go there because I don't think that they have the votes yet unless they switch the way that they have to get the two-thirds majority. That is completely different

and that does completely shift things. But even then, I'm not even so sure that they can do that. I mean, again, politicians act... It's in Biden's $1.9 trillion budget. I thought it was 1.2. Did they change that to 1.9?

I think it's 1.9. It was 1.9. I thought 1.9 too. Print, print, print. I thought it was 1.2. Did they change that to 1.9? I think it's 1.9. It was 1.9. I thought 1.9 too. Print, print, print. Money, print, go brr. Yeah. Sorry, I cut you off. Sorry.

No, I was just going to say, let's see where it goes because politicians are political. Yeah. At the end of the day, they look at where they go and why they take these positions. Why don't we ask you guys what you think and jump over to Super Chats to see what people are talking about. Make sure you smash that like button if you want to support the show. And don't forget to become a member over at timcast.com.

We're really trying hard to get a core base of members, get access to members-only content, get access to private events that we'll have at our studio venue. And it's because censorship is here. The purge is here. Twitter announced, what is it, 70,000 accounts were banned. So I'm kind of like, maybe we should focus on creating something different off of these big tech platforms. So again, TimCast.com, become a member. We already have an exclusive segment up with

Richie McGinnis, the journalist who was defamed by the New York Times. They accused him of being a rioter and a right-wing journalist when they eventually tried to correct. Interesting stuff, but let's read some super chats. All right, we got Eric Douglas says, People should read That Hideous Strength by C.S. Lewis, a book even more prophetic than 1984 that deals with the subject of scientific authorism. Interesting. David Jones says,

Everyone email Trump to pardon Julian Assange. Yeah, what do you think about that? Do you think Trump will do it? Do you think he should? I don't think he's focused on anything right now other than what's going on with him

and this exit on the 20th. Isn't he doing some, like, big military event for himself? The report I heard today was he's literally just leaving on Wednesday morning. On Wednesday morning. To Barilago. today was he's literally just leaving uh on on wednesday i think wednesday morning yeah he's just well i don't know i got a random text message from someone claiming that their brother's niece you know what does that make sense their brother's

niece yeah no that's their kid their cousin's best friend's niece said that trump is gonna uh invoke an executive order and then uh become super president i my roommate knows him said the same thing oh my gosh a little known uh provision in the constitution section 43 article 71 about becoming super president cool yes it must have been overlooked by these scholars it's written in magic marker. Yeah. Sharpie. Anonymous says, do you think the censorship of social media is more related to platform globalization?

It's not about the First Amendment to them. It's one code, one platform. The strictest policy is the rule to save money. They literally said that to me. That's what Jack Dorsey and Vijay Ghatai said. They said, our rule base is a global standard for our global audience so they're like basically saying we don't care about you and your rights

we're just trying to make the lowest common denominator standard to make money on around the world let's see what is this gaku says mines was given a 24-hour notice by google so they had to gut their app on the play store if you would like to join the exodus from the cartel download the app from the Mines website. Is that true? It is true. If that happened in the last 48 hours, I didn't hear anything about it.

Yeah, Bill said it. I saw something about it. Really? I did. Wait, what? Yeah, Bill Altman said something about it. I saw somebody take a screenshot from Mines and post it to Twitter. Wow.

Yeah, and I haven't had to touch it. It's because we were promoting them. It happened like two years ago. Are you sure it wasn't from that? No, it was from today, I think. Are you positive? Why don't you check? Because that happened a while ago and Bill talked about it. But if they're banning what we're promoting, we really need to promote CNN.

And the Federal Reserve. CNN, the most trusted name in news. They're doing an awesome, great job. Congratulations, Mr. Cooper. Great job. MSNBC, also really good. Yes, awesome. Fabulous work. Do not promote me. Kevin Grip says, yeah, rants.

There you go. That's correct. Jonathan Galzerini says, I love you. Not in that way. True journalism is alive and well through people like you. Have fun, everyone. Well, if you agree with Jonathan, Timcast.com, become a member. I'm going to let everybody in a secret.

In our first members only segment we swear a lot good whoa that's kind of a warning because your kids might be around did you swear to god no no we're just swearing it was funny because in the while we're recording richie swore and it's like oh i can't swear i'm like yes you can you can you can swear now that's so richie beauty of getting away from these sentient stories do you like that that more? That freedom? Well, I don't care to swear. You know, I did swear because it was funny. It was like that was the joke. I started cussing. But, yeah, man.

You know there's a name I can't say on YouTube. A name of a politically consequential individual. So nobody say it if you know the name. We'll get banned instantly. Someone watching YouTube right now will turn this stream off if I say two words. Yeah.

Yep. Okay. I confirmed it. Yeah. It's from like today. Yeah. At the time that the screenshot was taken because it was on Mines. It was 28 minutes ago.

It says, alert. This is from Bill Lottman. Google Play sent Mines a 24-hour warning. Our response app was accepted into the store based on our interim solution and Ninja developers, but we had to remove major functionality from the version of this app. So they did have to gut their app. Keep it in the store. We'll reach out to because we all know Bill and we had him on the show recently.

We'll figure out what's going on. All right, let's see. Gone Fall says, my pillow guy used to be a crack addict. Didn't think he could make it. Broke through the addiction. Trump helped him further his career. It makes sense. The my pillow guy is fighting for him every step.

I believe it. I mean, it's a tremendous story. And I got to be honest, I like the my pillow. I kind of do too. So people either love it or hate it in my experience. I liked it. I think it's fantastic. Yeah, I have one.

I really, really like it. You know what I think? You need a regular pillow and a my pillow. And I put the my pillow on top of the regular pillow. I was at Walmart and I saw it and I was like, I'm going. I really, really like it. You know what I think? You need a regular pillow and a MyPillow, and I put my pillow on top of the regular pillow. I was at Walmart, and I saw it, and I was like, I'm going to get one of these. Because I see that guy on TV all the time. And it's, I mean, I'll be honest with you. Do you need to spend, what is it, 50 bucks for a pillow? I kind of don't think so.

But I do like it. You know what I mean? I just got a customized pillow after filling out a quiz that I'm sure was just nonsense. And I paid an obscene amount of money for it, and I love it. I hate memory foam. I hate it. It's awful. So I generally agree.

It depends on the – it's got to be a hybrid. It can't just be memory foam. Are we going to do a whole segment dedicated to pillow talk? Can we just talk for a moment about the fact that – Oh, God. No. And I was one of them. I spent an ungodly amount of money on a uh one of

those pillows from the brand that we all know i won't name them and it hurt my neck so badly memory foam yes yes me too and i kept it because i spent 110 on it i knew i knew somebody i knew somebody who had a memory foam pillow and i was like oh i'll sleep with this and i woke up my neck was stiff and i couldn't move it so much and i was like i just i just i would rather sleep on the floor that's so weird i love memory foam yeah i just read a little bit more about the mind censorship on google it says that they had to remove search uh discovery and comments from the new app comments comments because probably because they couldn't police all the comments it was was too risky. But Twitter is on the Google app. It's nothing but comments. But Twitter.

I know. I know. Wow. Lots of crazy, probably violative stuff on Twitter. I don't want to assume. We can't even describe what's on Twitter. Facebook is nothing but comments. Facebook is where the rioters actually organized.

That's nuts, man. This is monopolistic BS, dude. It's so funny because I could send, who is Sheryl Sandberg? I could send her the links to all the Facebook groups in the Pacific Northwest by Antifa and show them the promotion of their events and then link them directly to news stories about the violence at said event. Yeah. But we didn't do anything.

Well, Google, yeah, Google won't take them down. It's all a big club and you ain't in anything well google yeah google won't take them down it's it's all it's all a big club and you ain't in it daniel maxwell says scary thought there is a faction within our government that actually wants to start a civil war believing that they will have control over military forces allowing them to win fast and impose a form of government of their choice on the country well i want to clarify it's a scary thought it's not a fantasy a weird one well i think you know there's a lot of silly you know ideas we entertain sometimes um but you know like i said there's

a lot of conspiracy theories to think trump secretly put the national guard there or whatever but uh it's not a view i prescribed to matt m says a peaceful separation isn't practical because rural and red rural red parts and blue states would want to also break away, and blue states would lose their bread baskets and have less control of their food supply. Right. That's why, you know, it wouldn't happen. STFU FFS says, Pocket net sounds like the old P2P sharing tech.

Isn't that crazy? When we used to have like Kazaa and like Morpheus. Oh, I love that stuff. Lime wire. Remember the thing? It was like, I think it was Morpheus. Remember that? Morpheus. Oh, I love that stuff. LimeWire. Remember the thing it was like I think it was Morpheus. Remember that?

Morpheus was a good one. But they were all the same thing. They were but the different interface and had a better logo. Morpheus had a better logo. What was the first one

that Metallica went after? Was it LimeWire? No, it was before LimeWire. Oh, Napster. Napster. Yeah, but that was just MP3s. Man, those were the days.

These old you download it and you could download anything. Literally, you search for it. Somebody had it. That was one of the greatest breakthroughs of the internet. They don't do that now. For what it exists?

You can find anything now? Pirate Bay. No, no, no. Well, maybe, but I'm talking like, so there's an old, I'll tell you what, if you can find this, ladies and gentlemen, then I will be eternally grateful. So when I was a kid my mom got sound blaster for our uh computer you know sound blaster sound card sound blaster and we're the speakers and we're like yeah and it came with a demo disc that had heretic descent doom

and i can't remember the fourth game how what did it play like uh what do you mean like what was the game like i don't remember i only remember the three game. What did it play like? What do you mean? Like, what was the game like? I don't remember. I only remember the three. Oh, I bet someone can figure that out. I tried looking for it. Was it all on one disc? It was one disc.

It was a demo disc from Sound Blaster with a demo of Doom, Heretic, and Descent. And there maybe, I think, was one more game I don't remember. Dude, Descent was hilarious. And I looked up old archives. I can't find it. Back in the day of Kazaa and Morpheus,

you'd find it in two seconds my buddy sold like 20 dual lands for descent descent was a fun game all those duals are like five bucks each at the time magic cards they're worth like 900 now but if you can find that demo disc and you know what i'm talking about i want to find an old copy if it's freeware at this point because i just want i just you know i just day... I could do a whole show about this, Tim. Finding this demo disc, the lost disc. Listen, it is a Sound Blaster demo with those games on it and maybe one more and I couldn't find it.

Couldn't find it. I remember it taking days to download a movie and I had friends that were putting conspiracy videos in mainline Hollywood movie titles and people were downloading them and then watching conspiracy videos. It looks like it's Warcraft, Orcs, and Humans. Yeah, yeah.

Descent. It's the game pack. Descent, Destination, Saturn, Doom, Heretic, Warcraft, Orcs, and Humans. Yeah, but you found a copy of it? I'll send it to you.

No, I don't know. No, I don't think that's it. It was a demo disc. But I don't know. See what you find. See what you find. You found the Sound Blaster game pack? CD-ROM package

with Sound Blaster cards, 1995. And it has those games on it? Descent, Doom, Heretic, and Warcraft. I think that's right. Let's go. How did he find it so quickly? Because he's Ian, man. He's the free the code guy.

He's the man of the internet. He can see the code like Neo in the Matrix. That is true, because I smoked salvia. I had something to do with it. I could do a whole show on that. Now that we're talking about it. All right, let's see let's see Jason Schmidt says with your website break down activities

for tickets I will never go for some skateboarding activity but you have a gun hunting day and I will be there don't really want to join the site and risk taking and risk taking an activity from another I guess you got cut off we're not going to be doing skateboarding events the events that we're

going to do are going to be like comedy, music, and political commentary. And it's going to be basically based around the guests we have on the show. So there are a lot of prominent musicians that get into politics. I mean we had Phil from All That Remains on the show at one point. It's things like that. I'm not going to say we've booked anybody. But we're going to have comedy shows. It will be political comedy.

And you'll come hang out as one of maybe like 10 people having a drink. And we're going to broadcast the shows live. But you'll get to be there. That's kind of the plan of being a member. It will be first come, first serve. So it'll probably be hard to actually get considering how many members there are. But, you know. FatFreddy'sCat says, dude, fix your website.

I can't create my username or something. Give me back my 10 buckos. Fat Freddy, you gave me $5 to tell me that. So I think what's happening, a lot of people don't realize, after you sign up, you get your sign-up email, and it's going to people's spam folders. So we're fixing all of this, and we're going to create a splash page, and the site literally went up on Monday. So forgive us as we work you know work through the the issue uh you should be able to just use your email to request another password say like you lost your password but uh we'll figure it out consider it in beta for the next few weeks oh it's going to be in beta for some time yeah but the thing is look we can't snap our fingers and

create a massive news enterprise website we have to start start somewhere. So when we launched, we were like, it works. Everything seems to be working perfectly. And then once you bring in the users, the bugs start appearing, and then we find them, and now we're trying to work them out to the best of our abilities. So it's pretty beta. Zachary says, Tim, Lydia, Ian, you have cultivated a desire

to counter the misinfo of the establishment in me. Luke, you're an inspiration, a very Polish inspiration. I'll be creating content in the coming weeks. Very nice. Dziękuję bardzo. SDFU says, from the makers of MyPillow, it's MyKudeta. Pillowman.

The MyPillow guy. Pillow fight. Yeah. Let's see. Amir M says, hey, Tim, big fan. Since TimCast is expanding expanding any chance you're hiring potentially soon we will have some news there's a lot of stuff going on but uh for now i think the most important thing is there is uncertainty right now with social media bannings and the purge

and there's serious risk right now to having a business primarily be youtube based so this is a podcast it does appear appear on iTunes and Spotify and actually does particularly well relative to other podcasts. But YouTube is a way larger portion of traffic, which is why you can tell I'm pushing Timcast.com very heavily, because ideally we can make this business self-sufficient on an independent platform that can't be banned. And you don't need that many people to do it. So look, we get, I think we get like three, all of my content's getting like three or, no, it's probably getting like 4 million, 2 million views a day, 4 million every 48 hours on YouTube metrics. Imagine if only 10,000 people actually watched any of this stuff,

but they were all members paying 10 bucks a month. We would never have to worry about censorship ever again. Granted, we do want to reach as many people as possible. That's the name of the game, I suppose. But we could make this work with a with with a with a 1% 0.1% of that audience if they were just subscribing members. And that's the freedom we really want. So like I said, we did this segment with Richie McGinnis. And we were swearing because it was funny because we could finally swear. There's a lot of things we can say. I can do a segment after this on the name I can't say and say it 500 times. It'll be fantastic. Yes.

Serious Red Gamer says 2024 Trump for president and pillow guy VP. I honestly would not would not be surprised. Yeah. All right. Let's see. ISP Inc. says declassified documents available. Check live chat for link. Is that the Obama stuff?

The Obamagate stuff? Trump declassified it? I don't know if it's out yet, though, is it? It was, parts of it was at least declassified today. I did not read it, though. Rob Lowe robs Lowe's, says Tim, Lydia, Ian, and Luke. Keep doing what you're doing. You're all awesome. Thank you for the great content. Can't wait to see what members' content

has on Timcast.com. We're talking about, you know, Luke wants to set up an airsoft battle between the Timcast IRL crew versus the Daily Caller crew. The Beanie Compound crew. That's what we're calling it. The Beanie Compound crew. And then we were thinking of doing like having GoPros on people's heads live broadcasting remotely. Oh, that sounds cool. Or we could do a live stream.

You could have Luke cam and like Richie cam. And then you're like, Luke's behind Richie and Richie doesn't know. Oh no. And then stream snipers. Yeah, that'd be cool.

We also have those night vision goggles that can record HD. We could do a night show. Yeah. Night vision. Yeah. Tyler says, Tim, you should reach out to Bill Little

and ask him about the after party and its mascot. It's already on board. I don't know what that is. I will look that up. Floosborough says, hi from Sweden. Tim, if you plan to get a dog, please consider Commodore, a Hungarian guard dog. We get our Commodore puppy next week directly from Hungary. Interesting.

Cool. Well, we were close to getting a husky, but I just got a German Shepherd. Here's an interesting one mitchell salazar says i'm in virginia and i saw a billboard asking people to turn people in who are at the capital wow wow count ludwig ludwig says hey jason fellow seattleite here and i seek your advice on how average citizen can push back against covet lockdowns especially in washington i'm friends with a few restaurateurs, and at least one is terrified she will lose their eatery. She probably will. The reality of the situation is Washington state is deeply blue, and you're not going to just be able to change things. Now, this last election actually was way more competitive than a lot of

people thought. And there was no losses of seats on the Republican side where we kind of thought we were going to lose some potentially. So that's some that that's that maybe portends a good future. I think you just got to get more involved politically. I mean, Washington in particular, is a place that when you do get involved, it actually does make a difference on the local level. and some of these races are being won by just a few hundred votes sometimes are there instances in washington of restaurant tours just staying open yes there are quite a few and what was it spiffies made uh the national rounds uh they now owe like 115 000 or something uh in in fines and they're going through the

court system and they thought that oh we get in front of a court get in front of a judge they're going to side with it so far not going so well there but there have been in washington really across like ap has a story out this week on restaurants just saying no we just can't do it anymore we're not doing it because we you know we're just trying to be scofflaws and try to spread COVID. We're trying to help sustain a business and keep our employees paid. It's just at some point people are going to just stop following the rules. You're from Seattle. I am. You ever eat a bag of dicks?

Dicks is the best. I will say that. Seattle dicks are the best. It's a burger joint. It's actually really good. Yeah. So the joke is, because I think we mentioned it before. Every time I lived in Seattle, very briefly, I lived in Fremont.

And I've been back a couple times. And everyone's always like, what do you want to do? You want to eat a bag of dicks? Because it's a funny thing to ask. And then you actually end up going and get a burger. You literally go to Dick's. You go and get a burger. I know the family.

So it's a good place. It's a really good place. Yeah, it's always fun to go to. Yeah, it's fast. It's kind of like place. Yeah, it's always fun to go to. Yeah, it's fast. It's kind of like how McDonald's, the old school McDonald's would be. You walk up to the window, and you order, and then you step over, and they hand you the bag. People on the West Coast who know In-N-Out, although, right, they're just West Coast.

Way better than In-N-Out. I know. Well, way better. I don't like In-N-Out. In-N-Out, I think, is overrated. Yeah, absolutely. Do you guys ever eat Swenson's? Do those make it to the bigger other cities?

No, I've never heard of it. That was like you sit in your car and you order it. They come out and they take your order and then they go bring it out to the car. I don't want that. That's old school. I don't need that. From the 50s or something. I don't like the fact that you have to walk up.

Just give me a drive-thru. Come on, guys. Yeah. Oh. You ever watch that movie, The Founder? Yes. How they got rid of the drive-thru because it was like, who cares? He's sitting down trying to figure out how to eat.

And he's just like, just eats in his lap. It was a new thing to them. That's amazing. That's a good movie, by the way. Yeah, it is. Better than News of the World. Yeah. Black Czar says, raising the federal minimum wage to $15 is a corporate power grab.

A small business in Kansas does not have the same cost of living terms as Silicon Valley. They would lay off staff, increase prices, or fold, their wealth being redistributed to Walmart, Amazon, etc., who can eat the costs. Yes. Absolutely. Stephen Schlack says, Well, yeah. They should. bunch of cops who are getting out and going to act and going to act like the fire department only show when called well yeah this is a super serious problem and it's going to get so much worse in 2021 just in seattle the official number i think is now 198 from 2020 that is the largest number of officers to leave the force we now have the lowest level of deployable staff since 1993, since which we've grown like 48% or something in population. It is bad, and it's going to get worse. Wow.

Oh, this is a really important super chat from SassyPants824. Jason's eyebrows are glorious. Oh, she saw through the mask. We're here. Thank you. Let's see. Track Media Only says, People like AOC saying what they do that cause this. Add how much further they want to go.

It causes people to look for hope in anything they can. Daniel Henry says, conservative domination of talk radio is simply because people getting things done can't watch TV or YouTube. They have to listen and work at the same time. I think so. That's true. So I found that a while ago because I started my channel making videos, like actually going out and filming stuff and then intermittently doing commentary videos because I couldn't travel all the time and then eventually just commentary.

But people would turn my video on, they still do, and then just go about work. So they're hearing it in the background while doing something else. Yeah. Makes sense. then just go about work so they're hearing it in the background while doing something else yeah it makes sense it look radio is is passive listening for the most part uh unless you have what it's called a p1 which is your first preference which is the first person the first station you go to when you get in the car obviously as traffic got worse we uh capitalized on that and obviously in some of the other cities where people aren't actually driving that's the places where like youtube does best or what was that quibi that quite maybe quite did not take off all right let's see brian lane says hey gang vosh recently said on stream he would like to come

on your show again after covid any plan to have him on again love to see varying ideas i'd love to i'd really love to have him on with alex jones that was cool that's what we wanted to do because uh and it's not about vosh it's about getting a left and a right wing personality in the same place to just have a conversation i guess what if they wanted to box would you let them no no i'm not okay what about an escape park no no no no no if they want to do a sanctioned thing on their own they can go do that i'm not that jake paul like boxing it out stuff what's that called when they agree to fight? Mutual combat. Mutual combat in the parking lot. No, no, no, none of that's ever going

to happen here. They can do that. Anybody street can we record it? No, they cannot. Never going to happen. All right, let's see. And Kush Narula says, Kush says, does Ian believe things can get better if the Fed stops dosing the blockchain with aspartame? I definitely think things can get better. I would say so. dosing the blockchain with aspartame. I definitely think things can get better.

I would say so, yeah. Dosing the blockchain with aspartame while they free the code. We have more power than we realize. That's something I've learned over the last 20 years, especially with internet video. But I think just in general, our actions have resounding effects on our surroundings. Gustav Andersen says, Tim, you and your team have been exceptionally transformational in my worldview and how I engage with social political content. Literally have changed my life. Thank you all so much for what you do. I appreciate it. I think we're just a group of people that talk about our

feelings. But when you have a bunch of people who are constantly reading the news and have different views on them, then you have a conversation, you know? Plus, if you're fearless to tell your friends, I say, I can't swear. I don't want to swear. What I say to you. In the bonus segment. Yeah. If you want to hear. What I say to you. In the bonus segment. Yeah. If you want to hear what I really say to Tim, check the bonus segment. It's just screaming. Ian's like, you got it.

You should listen to us play magic and just go at each other. No, it's never really that bad. There's a reason I live in the RV. It's friendly. Cage says, hey, I love rants. Seems like a solid dude. I live in Auburn and I help support SPD through Jason's fundraising efforts. Oh, awesome.

Thank you. James Byrne says, yo, Ian, dudes in man dresses and outdated weapons have been kicking America's rear end for 20 years. I have been there and done that. Tell me more about that. I think he's talking about the Middle East and life. Oh, dudes in man dresses. I wore a man dress at Burning Man. That's why I was a little confused.

So what was this point? It's about how in Afghanistan and Vietnam, farmers with just guns overwhelm the US. What kind of dress did you wear at Burning Man? It was a skirt that was offered to me by a friend of mine. And I don't have it anymore. I at Burning Man? It was a skirt that was offered to me by a friend of mine. Huh. And I don't have it anymore. I'll show you.

It was green. True North says, I really hope that my pillow guy and Trump start a civil war just so that 100 years from now they can refer to it as the great pillow fight of 2021. Oh, I love it. Count Ludwig says, hey, Jason, fellow Seattleite here, and I seek your advice. Oh, that's weird. Oh, that got posted twice i guess snazzy butterfly says shout out to ian i grew up in akron too oh holler there you go you guys are like basically best friends the water was like well water it tasted weird though something about it probably really dirty i didn't know it's time jacob dis disuski I'm saying your name

I'm trying to pronounce it He says Tim you know right now Certain media is claiming The civil war And Trump is a confederate president Side note See if Luke can pronounce

My last name How do you say it? Spell it D-Y-C-Z E-W-S-K-I E-W I bet we can He totally can

Uh Drozek Drezek G-Zek Drezek That's awesome Drezek That's crazy I bet we can. He totally can. Drzezek? Drzezek? What? Drzezek? Drzezek. That's awesome. Drzecki?

That's crazy. I don't know. I didn't write down what you were saying, but I'm just making up words right now to see if I can get it. Luke doesn't really speak Polish. He just pretends to. And it's actually just gibberish. No?

All right. Let's see. Eric A. says, You asked the other day, What's next with leftists keep pushing norms? MAP is next to be pushed. Remember, Salon wrote an article how they're not monsters. Crowder's done some good vids on this.

MAP, you know what that is? Minor Attracted Persons. I don't know. Was that like pedophiles? Yes. Oh, really? Oh, my gosh. And that's a big thing that's been on Twitter.

And people like left and right have been calling these people out like crazy. It's creepy stuff. These people are disgusting. That's what they're calling themselves? Yeah. Yep. Yep. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. This is why I hate Twitter. Yeah. I mean, I love it. I don't know, though. The left is going after them, too. Are they? Okay.

Well, you know what? See, that's good. You're usually on the left. No judgments. We should be judging these people. Yeah, I would judge that. Come on. Yep.

Let's see. Arturski says, Dems watch TV because they have more time. Republicans listen to radio while working. One Family Guy episode that they overthrow the government, things started to go sideways, had to create a new government. LOL, great show. And then he says, C-Z-E-S-C. What is that?

Check? Chesh. Chesh? What does that mean? Like, hi. Oh, hi. Let's see. Mild says, Ian, just for you, I'm researching the history of the Fed to get a grasp on what

the heck is going on. Dude. Also, chants of Harumph Gorilla workout merch. Now we're talking. Get some barbells. If you would like the official i am a gorilla t-shirt because i know everyone really loves the gorilla emoji go to timcast.com click the shop button and then you should see the i am a gorilla t-shirt let me just remind everybody

you see the t-shirts that we make here for the timcast irl podcast are somewhat meaningless it's a gorilla or it's me with like harumph i say bubbles luke's got a whole bag of like crazy political commentary and humor. I like to make people think and to interact with other people in the wild of our environment. And one great way to have a conversation is with a wild T-shirt. You know, and you know what really helps start a conversation? Wearing a shirt that says Trump just in big letters and walk around, say, like in New York or Los Angeles. You'll start a conversation real quick.

Or JC this week. Wear a helmet. I've been watching that if you do. A lot of Trump videos on YouTube? A lot of them. But he's a Hearthstone player called Trump. Yeah. That freaks people out.

You know what would be fun to make? A red hat that looks like Make America Great Again, but is completely meaningless. Like, make Trump go back now. Or or like make trump jump lawnmower well i have a red hat that says make taxation theft again and make orwell fiction again but i mean like confuses people a lot of times like make a shirt that says like that look oh you don't make a good idea no no no no i think i think i want to make a shirt that doesn't you can't tell if it's pro or anti trump it just says like donald trump we don't deserve we don't deserve him yes that's a michael malice joke by the way he always he always responds to you he would respond to trump saying like we don't deserve him and is perfect is brilliant because unlike everybody you don't

know who you don't know what's going on is he forward against the guy i have no idea y'all either way it's twitter eric bart thank you for that super chat thank you lost cause says wait tim swearing take my money well that's a super chat you need to go to timcast.com become a member and we got the segment up with richie um we're probably gonna have to figure out some better compression for the videos we upload because the videos that we put up are like high quality and we host we host them on our own and stuff but we're gonna have a bunch of other stuff too i think we're actually gonna do limited edition shirts and merch and stuff and you know we're working on it i think the goal is i should have done this from the get-go is making the focus of the company be just core users and membership and like the website there are a lot of podcasts you've never heard of

that do way better than we do because that's what they did and so that's something i realized you know i'm like wow we should have done that that we should have done that there are podcasts that have way less subscribers and these people are insanely rich because of it i want to i want to expand though and i want to do more so i'm figuring the appropriate way to protect ourselves from censorship like many of these left wing podcasts do is exactly that bass player says my last chat before becoming a member and in regards to crowder he takes breaks in summer and winter for the holidays. He'll be back before the end of the month. Okay.

Cool. Let's see. Buffalo Bill says, my pillow guy got sued for saying it healed migraine and back pain. He's a grifter. Interesting. Is that true of the my pillow guy? What? I never would have thought that.

All right. Let's see here. We'll jump down and make sure we get to as many superchats as possible. Nolan Harris says, I know you guys like magic the gathering do you all read fantasy sci-fi if so what do you like jeez i don't ian maybe i was just watching a bunch of lord of the rings the cimmerillion i haven't heard it yet but i was listening to some old tolkien interview from the 60s that guy like speaks like a hop i mean he's like gandalf yeah so let's see anthony calva says hey tim can you acknowledge my existence i'm from jersey too by the way and murphy sucks i agree yes here we go uh this one's from zombie slayer isaac says nah have vosh on with eric july yeah that'd be nice

yeah that'd be cool that'd be cool because i think they're both smart and they'd have an interesting conversation i'm not saying that i completely agree with Vosh, though. We had quite a disagreement, but I don't think he's going to, you know, I think it'll be an interesting conversation. Vosh is also named Ian, by the way. Yes. That's pretty cool. He'd be good with a lot of people because he's really smart and kind of like a socialist. I'm sorry to interrupt you, Tim.

Please continue. Arthamesia says, hey, Tim, I am a small political YouTuber and worried about the future of my channel. I had a rapid growing audience that began to dwarf my channel on Parler. What we need are new server companies to compete with Google and Amazon. I'm going to give a shout out to Pocketnet.app again. They sponsored the show. I read a bit of their thing early on. And at first, I get told, hey, here's the people who are interested in sponsoring

the show. And then when I looked at their website and they said, there's no company, there's no centralization backing this, so no one can ban you. I was like, that's exactly what we need. And I'm like, I'm really adamant when it comes to sponsorships where I'm like, I only literally endorse things I think are cool. So when I read that, even before we started the show, me and Ian had a little back and forth where you were like, wow. wonder how many operation how many pocket coins

you need to stake in order to become one of the miners is that what it is like you run nodes i guess you had to run a node how many pocket coins you got to stake how much they cost where to get them i like the idea so just real quick just because it just happened like 20 minutes ago virginia officials reach agreement with secret services to shut down Virginia-DC bridges Tuesday through 6 a.m. Thursday for inaugural activities. Wow. I'm going to get stuck on DC. Oh my gosh. Wow. Creepy, man.

But yeah, anyway, so those that are mentioning decentralized apps and other options, special thanks to PocketNet.app for sponsoring the show. I do think it's an amazing idea. I got to stress it because I'm not trying to just, you know, keep promoting them. But we've talked about the Fediverse over and over again, where you have your own server. So like, instead of using Twitter to

send messages, people just follow you on your server is really, really an interesting concept. So to see people actually implementing this, I want to see more of this so let's see ghost crusader says facebook and instagram reinstated trump's accounts i don't think they ever banned him i think they they restricted him from yeah well he can't he can't post his accounts are still there though ice fox says when to become a member it took a paypal payment but i can't log in tried forget my password with my paypal account email the email without the domain and the PayPal payment ID. What am I doing wrong? Check your spam folder.

If not, email members at timcast.com, and then we'll get you the proper link and get it sorted through. And let me just tell you guys, one of the challenges with launching the site is that we immediately got like thousands of people signing up right away. And so we're just a small handful of people trying our best. So we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll get to as many people as possible. Whatever you do, you need to, I, it's probably pointless to just bring up again, but, uh, people are emailing a bunch of the wrong emails and it's not getting sorted out

properly. So just members at timcast.com. If you encounter a problem, check your spam folder. And we're going to, we're going to set up more to sort through this and create a splash page and then create, you know, redundancies to make sure people who encounter any problems can solve it. Preston Tem says, if someone had told me that we would go into a near multi-year lockdown economic crash, a populist winning presidency after Harambe happened, I never would have believed you. Oh, Harambe. Yeah. CatMC26 says, can you make sock gorillas like the monkey's grandma made i i don't know i like it maybe we'll see what teespring offers if you have not already make sure you smash that like button subscribe to the notification bell because it really does

help and go to timcast.com become a member we will have more bonus segments coming up but you really check out the one we just did with richie minnis of The Daily Caller because he was smeared by The New York Times as a rioter. They literally made it up. They claimed he punched the glass. Never happened. Meanwhile, CNN puts on one of the actual rioters who's a leftist and acts like he's a journalist. Check out that segment at Timcast.com. Become a member.

And thank you all so much for hanging out for the show. Jason, thank you for coming to the show. Do you want to mention social media? Sure. Jason rants on Twitter. R-A-N-T-Z. I lost so many when I was critical of Trump and then with all the purging and stuff. So I'd like to boost that back up.

Hey, you know what? It's all a part of life. Just got to keep, you keep grinding, you keep working and you don't worry too much. I'm going to sign up for your sponsor though. As much as I don't. Yeah. I don't like, I'm not signing't worry too much. I'm going to sign up for your sponsor, though. I'm excited.

As much as I don't like, I'm not signing up for anything else. I'm not going to Gab. I know people keep telling me to go to Gab. I was there at the beginning. A lot of anti-Semitism. I am not going back. I am just out, but I will go there. I went to Gab a couple days ago.

Man, it was slow. I think they just got overloaded. They're getting slammed. But, dude, my respect, they're building building infrastructure so they're trying to ban gab i think the issues you know but uh actually i should i was going to say something wrong no gab decentralized gab fed use the fediverse now so that was a while ago they're doing everything in their power to prevent them from being taken down it's it's actually impressive and i apparently there's rumors about like DOJ. I have to start demanding the DOJ investigate them now because when the private sector fails,

use the power of the government to shut down your political opponents, right? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, Luke, you have shirts and stuff. They're also doing the same against Signal and Telegram, which is very worrying as well. But yes, if you want to support my independent ventures, I am Luke We Are Change on most social media like Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and all those other controlled places.

But the best thing you could do is sign up on my email list on wearechange.org in the top right-hand corner. And I don't just sell shirts. I sell bikinis, socks, and hats, which you could get also on wearechange.org forward slash store if you want to support me because you do thank you guys so much and if you have problems with decentralized things like signal and telegram going forward you could always use something like wire or uh the matrix protocol with riot it's a great message encrypted chat mines although their app seems chat's going

to be offline but their minds is going to be rolling out some hardcore uh message new messaging upgrades which i don't i don't think bill has authorized me to talk about yet but man it's but their minds is going to be rolling out some hardcore message, new messaging upgrades, which I don't, I don't think bill has authorized me to talk about yet, but man, it's going to be good. Of course, I'm Ian Crossland.

Thank you, Tim, Luke, Jason, Lydia. I love you all. You guys can follow me anywhere on the internet, YouTube,

Twitter, Facebook, minds, Instagram. Oh, I think Instagram is tracking everything you do now. Did you guys see that? You know what? Can I be honest?

Every time I get served with an ad on Instagram, it knows me so well. I buy everything. I seriously buy everything. I bought toothpaste this morning because of an Instagram ad. Didn't know I wanted it. I do now.

Tim and I have the same ad and you bought it. What was that? Do you remember? Oh, yeah. Was it Solar you bought it what was that do you remember oh yeah it was a solar torch or what was it crazy dude yep I think maybe I won I got two of them now

the craziest thing is they sent me an ad for a head shaver and how do they know I'm bald I wear a beanie all the time they figured it out somehow facial recognition

x-ray vision anything else I was going to say I think that's about it I love you guys you're going to tell everybody to follow at Sour Patchlets yeah follow at Sour Patchlets.

Yeah. Follow at Sour Patchlets and share the video. Share this video if you like it. Yes. Do. Yes. And then go to TimCast.com. I was going to say, too, that I did buy Tim's Christmas gift off of an Instagram ad because I loved it and it was perfect for him and I thought it was great and he loved it.

Anyway, Sour Patchlets. The empanada press or whatever? Yeah. It makes little dumplings. It's really good. We made cheesy dumplings. It was amazing. My friends, thank you all so much for hanging out.

We will have more bonus content. So if you like the show, then again, sign up for TimCast.com. We will be back Monday, right? Monday? Yes, Monday at 8 p.m. And thanks for hanging out, and we will see you all then. Bye, guys.