Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #206 - National Guard Failing Loyalty Tests, Get PULLED From DC Duty w/ Steve Rene of Fortitude Ranch

Episode Date: January 20, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join guest Steve Rene of Fortitude Ranch adventure and survivalist camps to discuss the national guard facing loyalty tests in Washington, DC, the idea of Trump's New Army, H...illary Clinton's ideas about Russian interference (still!), the dangers of civil war, and the pros of being prepared for it.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Tomorrow's a big day. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will be inaugurated. They will become president and vice president. Donald Trump will leave. And for some reason, no one's allowed to be there. There's 25,000 National Guard occupying D.C. And journalists seem to love the idea of 25,000 troops occupying Washington, D.C. We had a guest on.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I think it was, what did they say? It's double the amount of troops we have over in Afghanistan, something like like that or maybe even more than that like 10 times what was it was like yeah we have like 2500 in afghanistan we have like 10 times the amount of troops in dc right now and you know the left and the right both think something weird is going to happen now i've i've heard the craziest conspiracy theories on the right. And honestly, I just think Joe Biden's going to walk in. He's going to hold up his hand, say some words, and then we're going to move on. Then he'll issue some executive orders. Everybody will get mad and then we'll be back to bickering about politics. But I do think there's still the risk of serious escalation
Starting point is 00:00:55 because Joe Biden's going to be doing hard reversals on tons of Trump's executive orders, which is a 180 degree turn, which means that's a hard swing in the direction, which is going to freak people out. On the left, however, they're seriously concerned about some right wing militia, you know, protest or insurgency or whatever. And as far as I know, I believe it's 30 states so far have activated the National Guard. The big news right now is that so far, 12 guards have been removed because after being vetted, turns out some of them, I guess, are retweeting things they don't like or associated
Starting point is 00:01:29 with the NRA. That's one report coming from Jack Posobiec. What we can say is they've been removed. Many people have likened this to failing a loyalty test. So it's kind of weird. It's kind of weird that Democrats and the establishment are that concerned. They've issued two now statements, one letter to soldiers saying, do not support Trump. Another op-ed saying, if you do, you will be arrested and prosecuted.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And now they're going through all the history of these people. That's getting crazy. We have a very excellent guest tonight, however, probably one of the experts on probably survival camps. Well, I'll just throw it to you because I don't want to downplay your credentials. This is Steve Rene, COO of Fortitude Ranch. Do you want to just explain who you are, what you do? Yeah, so my name's Steve Rene. I'm the COO of Fortitude Ranch and the operations manager for Fortitude Ranch, West Virginia. We are a recreational slash survivalist community. We started in Colorado over seven years ago. The founder, Dr. Drew Miller, began the first ranch, then he bought the property out in West Virginia. And then once that got to the point of being up and running, then he hired me. I came on in to run the operations. And then we,
Starting point is 00:02:47 this year we've expanded into Nevada for a third ranch and we're going to continue to grow and grow. Are these like, these are underground, underground bunkers? We have, we have hardened facilities, but no, it's, it's not all underground. We have everything from beautiful log homes to hardened shelters. It's there's a mixture. Do you have a big, beautiful wall surrounding the property? We don't. We don't appear to be militaristic because we are not militaristic. We fit in in any community that you would if you drove by the facility in West Virginia,
Starting point is 00:03:22 you'd never know the building you would first see used to actually be a bed and breakfast. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's a gorgeous log home. That's comfortable. And that's where the luxury memberships are located. Then as you get back further into the compound itself, I don't even like to use the word compound. That's why we use ranch.
Starting point is 00:03:41 We keep ourselves away from anything tied to militias that's yeah we're about defending our own and when that time comes and until that time comes then members are able to come to the ranch and relax and so yeah the big news came i think it was october you guys activated ahead of the election and that kind of got people worried i know we talked about it quite a bit that you were basically telling people come on down to the ranch in case there's you know mass unrest or some kind of catastrophe yeah and we try we try to stay ahead of what's coming and obviously we're not nostradamus in any sort of way. Well, he wasn't that good anyways. Right. But the point is, you know, so we stay out of politics, but we have to monitor politics so that we can, you know, get the idea of what's coming and help our members to be prepared for that.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And, of course, they always have questions. And so this is anything. It would be like a natural disaster. Oh, absolutely. It would be civil unrest, political. Yeah, we are built to be able to sustain a nuclear shockwave. Wow. So aside from that, you're also former Army intelligence. I was.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I was five years in nukes, and I was five years in military intelligence. We were hearing some pretty crazy stories just before we went live. So I'm like, wait, wait, stop talking. This is crazy stuff we should definitely talk about on the show. So we'll get into all this and we'll talk about Fortitude Ranch and it's a survival and recreation camp, I guess you call it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Yeah. Cool. So we also have, as always, Luke Rutkowski. Oh, hi. Hi, guys. Hello. How you doing? Just stretching over here.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Oh, wow. Another We Are Change exclusive t-shirt tonight, which you could only get on wearechange.org forward slash shirts. Just a random coincidence. Thank you so much for having me on. And you brought up a very good, important point. If you're bugging out, you don't want to tell the world that you're bugging out. Also, it would be interesting to talk about your military experience, especially when it comes to the military vetting that's going on.
Starting point is 00:05:43 But we have a lot to get into, so I'm really excited. I'm very happy that you're on. Appreciate it. And I'm Ian Crossland. Hello. Luke is actually a bigger hippie than I am, even though I look more like a hippie. It's cool that you're here, Steve, because we were just talking about Atlantis yesterday. And I don't know if you know about the asteroid impact 28,000 years ago that purportedly ended the last ice age, shattered over north america peppered the glaciers and then caused a global flood that wiped out an entire civilization um and is that real like that actually what the evidence points to but i'm wondering would you could you handle an asteroid impact well nothing can handle an asteroid impact uh i mean we couldn't handle a nuclear blast if
Starting point is 00:06:23 you're ground zero nothing Nothing lasts ground zero. So the point is not to be where that's heading and then have the proper facilities to make sure that the shockwave doesn't do the damage. Could you survive underwater if there was a flood for a short period of time or something? Yeah, we were surrounded by mountains. You just go up. Wow, that's cool. All right. Well, the first portion, we'll talk about the political strife. But we actually do have, like, the CIA released UFO documents.
Starting point is 00:06:52 And so we'll get into the more weird and wild asteroids. And it'll be fun to talk to you about the more, you know, I don't know. I don't want to say conspiratorial, but paranormal aspects of the survival stuff. And that's probably not the right way to put it, like an asteroid impact or aliens or whatever. If we're just jumping into the stories, we started off with that story about soldiers being vetted. From your military experience, I hope you don't mind
Starting point is 00:07:14 if we're just jumping into it. Well, not yet. There's one more person. There's another human being. How rude of me. I'm so sorry. I'm here in the corner. Luke likes to try to jump into things, but I'm really excited to have this guest because I was psyched to learn about Fortitude Ranch, and I'm stoked to learn about all the details tonight.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'll be interesting context, too, especially with your military experience and everything that's going on, which is what Luke mentioned. But before we do that, Luke, who wants to promote his shirts, go to TimCast.com, become a member, and get access to exclusive content because we actually now have two segments. We just launched the site last week. We're still working out bugs. There's also a shop.
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Starting point is 00:08:16 really do like it you really want to help us grow sharing word of mouth the most powerful way to uh to help us out but uh let's jump into that first story. NBC News reports 12 National Guard members removed from inauguration duty, including two for inappropriate comments. The FBI has been screening all service members involved with the inauguration amid growing security concerns. They say, quote, We have two individuals that were identified as making inappropriate comments or texts.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I got to stop and just ask, what does that mean? Did they post a meme of Hillary Clinton or something and all of a sudden they're getting kicked out? Well, it's also stuff that they retweeted that supposedly is bad content. But we're, again, getting very generalized language, no exact examples. And we should at least get that with the latest news. And again, it's 12 out of 25,000. It's not a whole lot, but it is kind of weird. They're doing it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I got to be honest. So actually, I have a Twitter thread from Jack Posobiec. He says, White House source, the NRA, Turning Point USA, and Patriot Guard writers are three of many non-militia groups on the list CID and FBI are using to cross-reference in vetting for potential extremists. Why? Yeah, what is that? Young Americans for Freedom? Yep. Also on the list, quote, they're looking at various TP Turning Point USA chapters in almost every university and high school where there is one. For example, high school members who are in the Future Soldiers Program, which is Army's version of Del entry program. College age soldiers obviously already in. Investigators also looking for the following in pictures.
Starting point is 00:09:50 MAGA, CAG, apparel, Gadsden flag, Confederate flag, NRA gear and Q stuff. I can understand some of that, but the Gadsden flag. I mean, at any rate, it's all free speech. Soldiers, Facebook's, Twitter's, Twitter, Instagram, TikToks and Snapchats are also being checked. Units from deep red states, such as Texas, being thoroughly examined. Left-wing anarchist groups also listed, but not a top priority. In fact, zero have been investigated as of this evening. Leaders in both the Army and the FBI have directed to focus attention on groups with
Starting point is 00:10:22 strong conservative sentiments. NCIS, AFOSI, CGIS also expecting to receive that directive from senior DOD officials in the coming days. This goes way beyond the inauguration. It won't magically stop after tomorrow. So this is actually kind of freaky seeing this because you've got democrats concerned that someone what has a gadsden flag and so they're going to investigate people and remove them from their mission if that's the case are we really at the point where you know we had we had chris cuomo on cnn say we can't trust our military i mean i see stuff like that and i think of two words. You know what those two words are, guys? Luke's got a smile on his face. I was going to say fish sticks.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I don't want to get deranged. A civil war. Oh, you like those words. You know, I don't like those words. But I've been talking about it for some time. And it started when, as I mentioned always, I was reading it. And I think it was like New York Mag or the Atlantic. So for you, Steve, I'll give you the context.
Starting point is 00:11:26 There was an article where they interviewed a bunch of national security experts from various major security companies and asked them what what percentage likelihood they thought it, you know, we we had for a potential civil war. And they said in the next 10 years, like the average, I think, was like 35 percent or higher. Some people said 95 percent chance. And then watching the escalation of the culture war and the escalation of politics to this point where we had a bunch of Trump supporters, you know, storm through the front doors of the Capitol building. I mean, there have been people every step of the way we've seen some some kind of escalation. They've said, no, no, no, no, of course not. Well, now we had a retired army general, I believe army saying that we've not had this much security at inauguration since Abraham Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:12:10 So it really does feel like we are knocking on the door for some kind of major catastrophe. Now, that being said, it doesn't mean it's true. Everything could stop right now. Tomorrow could go off without a hitch and then everyone has to slow down and calm down. I just don't see anything happening with the rhetoric rhetoric from politicians from high profile personalities that would indicate things are going to calm down i mean you got aoc you've got these leftist cory bush saying expel the insurrectionist republicans and so it feels like the it's we're boiling over we're getting that point now there's two but before i want to ask you this steve i your business thrives when there's chaos.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And I mean that with all due respect. Like when the news is bad, people are going to start thinking about what they have to do to survive. So with that in mind, I imagine you've been tracking a lot of this stuff. You're paying attention to politics to know what might happen, what people might do. And I'd be interested to get your thoughts on all of this and what you think it means well partly what we're seeing happening with so much of the military presence is because it's so fresh so there's always an overreaction especially when you look in the political arena because everybody one has to cover themselves politically and then you know two this really hasn't happened before and it's shocking it's like a 9-11 type shock to the
Starting point is 00:13:38 country but it hit so close to home to those inside those chambers. That's why you're seeing what you're seeing. Now, will it go away quickly? I would imagine it'll stay for a little while. Things will have to calm down because, like you said, the rhetoric, it's not going to stop. Now, it becomes what will, will it become a payback scenario for how the impression is of what was done to Donald Trump? So are we now going to try to do that to Joe Biden? I think yes. We've had I think it was Marjorie Taylor Greene said she's going to file for impeachment day one day one. So here we go.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I mean, is it possible we hit that ceiling where this is the level of tension we get and then we never cross into that territory of actual disruption of supply lines and fighting it's possible but what's going to happen now groups are going to start to try to vie for attention so there was uh there was a highway that was stopped by a black lives matter group uh which we haven't seen in a little bit right that seemed to have calmed down But everybody now is going to vie for the attention of the incoming administration. And so the administration comes in with like a debit card of capital influence. And depending on how it's spent, it either will grow or it will dissipate. And so everybody wants to make sure the attention's on them so they can get a piece of all that. And an important aspect to really remember here, a lot of the left has been incentivized by making a lot of noise, making a lot of trouble, creating a lot of violence, and then being heard.
Starting point is 00:15:17 So there's also examples of them literally looting, rioting, and then getting their way. So that's another thing to consider moving forward in this larger kind of political spectrum. Getting defended by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden's administration. So, you know, what's interesting is we didn't get this reaction when we had Black Lives Matter riots sweeping across the country. I mean, did you, you guys didn't activate the ranches when all those riots were happening? No, no. But the election you did. We did. So the way we cover our members is there's a anxiety clause. So if something happens locally, if we're not completely activated officially, they can come. You know, they're a member.
Starting point is 00:15:54 They can come if something happens locally because there's no way to predict how these things are going to go. So if let's say like so you're in West Virginia. If somebody lives in, say, Pennsylvania and there's a major disaster in their town, they can come to the ranch. Absolutely. Because it's about, you know, their survival. They can't just go anywhere. They'll have somewhere to go. Right. Right on. So I guess, you know, when we're looking at what's going on in D.C. and everything that's happened over the past 10 years, the escalation, I mentioned that article where they talk about security experts giving their predictions. Do you think that we're on track for some kind of political instability? I'm not going to say, you know to a war, all of the different factors that you have to worry about. And we have it at 5% right now as far as what is the danger for civil unrest.
Starting point is 00:17:07 5%? In the sense of how it would affect, we're always looking towards the collapse scenario. Yeah. However, you get there probably through a few crises, right? Yeah. So, you know, just like COVID. COVID was a wake-up call because we were completely unprepared. Again, that was a 9-11 event.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Something you don't prepare for, you don't see coming, and boom, there it is. But, you know, we've been talking about it for a while. And the fact is we're talking about 1.8% morbidity. Morbidity? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There we go. All of the above. That's the nerve agent. Morbidity? Morbidity? Morbidity. That's the nerve agent. So then what happens if that was 5%? This would be a completely different climate.
Starting point is 00:17:57 And that's not even talking about bioengineered type of viruses. It's doable. We don't believe that that's what happened with COVID, but it is doable. That technology exists, and that should be enough to scare anyone. And again, we're not doomsday type prepper people where we believe the world's ending tomorrow and all this type of thing. But the fact that that is out there and can be released really should be an eye-opener and i'll just mention too you mentioned the nerve agent for those that uh before the show you mentioned that what you're you're uh well you were in i think iraq and you got swept over by sarin yeah well yeah it was during desert storm
Starting point is 00:18:41 when we finally wound up there so that i just want to give quick context i definitely want want to get into that stuff later, but people are probably wondering what you meant when you pointed your head and said nerve agent. Yeah, if I get blocked in thought, it's just the synapses trying to reconnect up there. Well, specifically what you were talking about before was gain-of-function studies that have proven to have no scientific basis at all, but it's pretty much when scientists come together and they're literally trying to create the worst destructive disease or virus possible. And a lot of times this is funded by a lot of taxpayer funded money and everyone's scratching their head like, why is this going on? Dr. Fauci was a part of financing this also in Wuhan. And just the fact that they continue this type of research is something to, of course, worry about, which is why I think you're putting it in your threat assessment.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Weaponization. Yeah. I think it's simple. You said that there's no scientific benefit. Of course, it's the new frontier of war, right? Yeah. It's horrifying what they did. I mean, you look at the mustard gas.
Starting point is 00:19:40 You look at sarin gas. You look at what these things do to people. Agent Orange. Yeah. Nightmare. Nightmarish. well the next level up is a self-replicating contagion imagine if you could make sarin gas but it would replicate itself and spread to other people well that's that's part of this research i can only imagine that the military's got some crazy stuff did you prep the story about the scientist who said he had? Well, it's from the Daily Caller.
Starting point is 00:20:05 The title is U.S. scientist who led charge against COVID lab leak theory admits he was trying to protect Chinese scientists. So this guy came out and said it did not leak from the Chinese lab. And now he admits that he was trying to protect the Chinese scientists. So we don't have any confirmation of the lab leak theory. But I will say it's strange. The New York, I think it was New York Magazine. It's always, I think, New York Magazine. They wrote an article going through the theory that it was, I guess the idea is they were trying to do research on it, either to make a vaccine.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And I'm not saying it's true. YouTube, calm down. This is what was published in a prominent New York publication where a guy wrote that there is a very real theory among scientists that it was an accidental release, that they were engineering this for a variety of reasons and made a mistake. Yeah. There's also some video footage going around showing how one of the scientists at this level three Wuhan lab was actually bitten by a bat and had COVID-like symptoms all the way back a few years ago. But there's, as you were saying, it's almost impossible to prove that it did come out of that lab, especially with China locking out the World Health Organization for over a year from even investigating the origins of the sickness. But kind of continuing back on the military aspect, since you were in the military,
Starting point is 00:21:19 I really specifically was dying to ask you, what do you think it does to morale to be vetted, like we're seeing the vetted going on right now? And how is the political kind of climate affecting the military? And how do you think it would be affected from your experience in the military? Yeah, you know, it's an interesting question, because certainly during my time, I never experienced anything like that. We never had such heightened political tension that it was really a factor when you you sat around in the barracks or something it really wasn't you know part of my experience but i i can tell you from anybody who is serving who has served it's like a slap in the face i it's something you take pride in i mean i think it's 1% of all of
Starting point is 00:22:05 the 330 some odd million people only 1% serve. And I have to imagine of these 12 guards that got removed, they probably have a lot of friends who are still there on the mission. And I can only imagine they're not happy about being removed. And I'm sure they kind of just
Starting point is 00:22:22 say like, yeah, you know, that's the game. You get orders, you follow your orders. Well, they'll do their duty game you get orders you follow your orders well they'll do their duty and right that when it comes down to it they'll do their duty but i but like you mentioned a slap in the face i have to imagine their friends probably feel you know loyal to their friends you know someone you serve with someone you know when you trust and then they say no this person's not trustworthy get them out of here and you're like dude come on like what's what's what's the what's the deal yeah well you're deemed as a threat for liking something online or retreating something now we don't know what was the gadsden flag dude the symbol of the american revolution a symbol of the american revolution is grounds for removing you from your duty to protect the capital the nra
Starting point is 00:23:01 people that have so yeah part part of jack jack so big's threat is they're saying that some people who like posted or associated with the nra it's all it's insane i mean i kind of mixed feelings like you need to protect your military and if you have traitors in the military that's a problem but assuming these people are traitors is also can be a problem and that's a that's a dark road to go that's i mean that's a big word, traitor. The problem is, well, I think the legal definition of traitor is actually providing aid or resource to an active enemy of the United States. So I think, you know, traitor gets thrown around a whole lot. The problem is when it comes to people storming into the Capitol, those people thought they were the patriots. By going in there, they were restoring the Constitution, defending it, and that the people in the chamber they believed were the bad guys it's everybody's the hero of their own
Starting point is 00:23:48 story yeah it's not so simple so that so the most powerful thing in this whole situation is the media narrative which is why we're now what two uh just about two weeks out from the storm of the u.s capital every day it's been like 50 stories in a variety of ways, many of which are just ridiculous, many of which just are trying as hard as possible to make it as crazy as possible. There was one story that came out where they said it was preplanned and they were planning on capturing, taking hostages and assassinating these people. And then like three hours later, that wasn't true. We made a mistake.
Starting point is 00:24:20 So that's what happens when the media is driven to pump out the most sensational, insane, you know, media. And I think for a lot of the people who work for these news outlets they're ideologically tribal left so it fits their narrative and it fits their bias and they get to write about this non-stop and that it's everything they wanted it was it was probably this one of the stupidest things anyone could have done is storming into that capital for a variety of reasons it's on moral grounds grounds. And then in actual reference to the political landscape, gave the left everything they could have wanted that there, I remember there was, I think, I'm not sure if it was Newsweek. I think it was Newsweek where they said, if Trump loses in 20, it was like in 2016,
Starting point is 00:24:56 said, what happens if Trump loses? And it's a picture of a bunch of like middle-aged white people holding torches and yelling and screaming. And they're like, that's what's going to happen if Trump loses. And then Trump won. And it was it was the left that you know kind of went nuts and were screaming and the democrats went after trump trying to impeach him well sure enough trump loses this time and they got their their prophecy fulfilled by people storming that capital and they are not going to let it go they're going to use it for all it's worth yeah there there's a new video going around today that's called hashtag Trump's new army. And it's pretty much calling Trump supporters traitorous terrorists. Brett Weinstein called this out. I saw it from
Starting point is 00:25:32 him retweeting it saying this is essentially trying to get your neighbors into a civil war. So this is Brett Weinstein's commentary on the video that is making its round around kind of liberal checkmarks. Do you have an opinion about maybe what happened on the Capitol or this kind of political climate that seems to be getting more and more weaponized against each other? We definitely have entered into a period of lost perspective. No one can understand why the other person feels that way. And we need to take a step back as a country and look at our, you know, fellow man differently, because not everyone's the enemy just because they voted one way or the other. Honestly, I don't quite understand why the line is drawn so harshly the way that it's been drawn. But this has been building up for a while.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I mean, the signs have all been there. then you really have to understand that we're still the same people we were four years ago. I mean, let's all calm down for a second. I think the ideology is drifting too far too fast. And I think people call me a bias, but i think the left is drifting very very for i shouldn't it's not necessarily to the left but the tribal division is coming from those associated with more of the left faction the anti-terror groups the example i give is you know the journalist from cnn i shouldn't call him a journalist the activist from cnn who's now calling up cable providers and telling them to ban fox news years ago, this guy interviewed me about defending free speech. So he's part of this group that has just drifted further and further into the extremes.
Starting point is 00:27:30 I'm sitting in the exact same place defending free speech and all that. But I want to I want to I want to pull up this tweet from Brett Weinstein and get into this and we'll talk about this divide. Brett Weinstein tweeted in response to a tweet from Don Winslow, who says new video Trump's new army volume up on January 20th. Donald Trump will no longer be the commander in chief. He will lose control of the U.S. armed forces and take control of a new army. Brett Weinstein says this video is diabolical, painting millions of citizens not only as disloyal to the nation, but as literal terrorists,
Starting point is 00:28:03 as it attempts to draft the rest into fighting their neighbors in a civil war. The filmmakers clearly desire. I stand with all patriots against this madness. And so we have this. This is the tweet from Brett. And then it was a different tweet. So this is the video he posted.
Starting point is 00:28:20 And I don't want to I'm not going to play through the whole thing because I think it's disturbing and it's quite long. But it shows regular people at a Trump rally and says this army, it's just people who showed up. These are people waving American flags. What they don't realize or what I think they don't care about is that at the at D.C., you had hundreds of thousands of people cheering for the president as he gave one of his last big public events. Then you had a few thousand march on the Capitol grounds. And a few hundred went inside. Those people are all being arrested.
Starting point is 00:28:52 It was a stupid thing to do. They shouldn't have done it. They're going to get arrested for it. Well, so be it. But the overwhelming majority, hundreds of thousands of people, didn't do or say anything to anybody. They showed up. There was one guy who lost his record label, Budamath. What was his name ariel pink ariel pink yep because he was just there and he said i went saw the speech and i went back went back home there's a a an intelligence a psychological
Starting point is 00:29:14 operations officer being investigated for simply bringing people to see the president speak and then going back to her hotel that's how like insane things are getting. And so I know they'll say I'm biased. And they like to, you know, assign your whether you're left or right, not based on what you believe, but based on who you defend, I guess. But when you have a dude coming out, putting a video up, encouraging civil war and telling people to fight their neighbors, that's not coming from the right. The right is the worst of the worst conspiracies we get from the right are pointed at global elites, bankers, politicians. The left is targeting working class people, regular Americans walking around on the ground. That's why, you know, I talk about this. We talk about civil war. I'm not saying it's a good thing. I'm saying it's a bad thing. and i'm saying so long as these people keep advocating for things like this and putting these videos out
Starting point is 00:30:07 they're not getting banned when they do this it is people like brett weinstein who had unity party trying to bring people together nope banned it's conservative band unity got banned yep how did why did it get banned no idea no one knows are you familiar with the unity party so uh brett weinstein is a professor he's a smart fellow. And he wanted to get a left wing individual and a right wing individual and have them run on the same ticket to unify as much of the left and the right as possible to stop this divide. And social media nuked his campaign. Just outright removed it. Yeah, we're in a toxic environment. And that's not going away anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:30:43 You know, I talked about the 5%, but that was of the day, you know, as we daily update that. So do you mean like a 5% chance? Is that what that means? Right, in the sense of even what would happen tomorrow. So we're not activated, right? We don't believe it's going. That's kind of high.
Starting point is 00:31:00 It is. Yeah, it was at 1 in 20. So you have, it's the reasons, it's the cascading effects behind all this. It's never just one thing. It's how this continues to build. And, you know, I don't know how small or if there will be a honeymoon period for the incoming administration, but. Luke and I are both shaking. No, no no no yeah i doubt it too because of
Starting point is 00:31:27 this toxic situation and we're gonna get so many precedences have been stomped upon that there's no end in sight let me let me ask you the tough question what if you have members who are staunchly anti-trump i mean you don't screen people's politics when they become members. No, no, we don't. What happens if you've got people who are, you know, come in there saying, Donald Trump's destroyed this country.
Starting point is 00:31:51 The conflict is all his fault. And then they show up one day and there's another guy who says, Biden destroyed this country. It's all the Democrats' fault. And they walk up to each other. Guy's got a Gadsden flag in America and the other guy's wearing Biden or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Well, if we have to come together, those things don't matter anymore. because things fell apart and then people will get perspective i think that's actually the you know one thing we mentioned before we talk talking before we started the show you mentioned these silos where millionaires will get bunkers and stuff i think actually one thing that makes what you guys do uh what makes it work more than anything else is you have leadership. You have people like you who are running it who will be the ones to intervene and say, shut your mouth. If you want to survive, stop fighting over this stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Absolutely. And see, that's really the only way it will work because, you know, people try to do this either on their own or they try to do it in smaller groups. But it generally ends in confrontation, either financially or over how all this is going to work. And then they'll reach out and contact us and say, do you want to purchase this land and stuff? Because, you know, we no longer can do this. We get that all the time because without structure, it's not going to work. You're talking about people coming under an extremely stressful situation. And if there isn't something already in place, it'll be chaos. Now, before you made a very good point, you're saying that people just need to take a step back.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I mean, that's something me and you have been talking about for years, like calm down, relax, take a step back, stop escalating these things, stop the cycle of hate that's been perpetrated by the mainstream media. But it looks like we're definitely full steam ahead on the divide and conquer train, and there's no stopping it. How bad, if it would get really bad, do you see it getting? Because as you said, it's a slippery slope. We've been seeing it for a while, but the snowball that started, it's already getting pretty big. What would be the worst possible scenario that you would see unfolding from here? Well, I think, again, in order to get attention for an incoming administration, we're going to see an uptick in some kind of unrest. Those looking to get the attention
Starting point is 00:33:59 onto them so that then they can promote whatever it is they're looking to promote. So then that is going to upset those it is they're looking to promote. So then that is going to upset those who are against whatever they are promoting. And so we're not going to see a lull. We'll see a consistent rebutting of heads. And then it really depends on what the local governments do. So much of this depends on what the politicians do in order to make this go away to a certain degree and calm it down or not. So you had the the chop chads thing, which you guys I'm sure talked about. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So many times. But so when that leader comes out and says the summer of love and she probably believed it i mean i have no idea
Starting point is 00:34:47 right that was her perspective at the time or was just something to be said politically but then it completely collapses and it it shows you what's going on now i know that's been tried you know in a couple different places and other ways but law enforcement already cut that off they've seen it so um so we won't necessarily see the same things it's the one you don't see coming and that's what we're going to you know you you gotta they'll have to be on guard for but there'll be things that'll take us by surprise these people uh these people who are advocating for conflict i don't care which faction what your ideology is left right whatever many of them actually now i think it's fair to say more so on the left than
Starting point is 00:35:31 the right they have no idea what they're asking for i think with with conservatives you're more likely to find people who live in rural areas who have fired guns and who understand conflict and these and these threats not completely but definitely more so than the left uh so i guess i don't want to you know um maybe make an issue of it for you guys but if you can answer do you tend to see more conservatives than liberals i would i mean i say it would be fair from what you know those who i know and when groups have come out, I would say definitely you can say that it leans that way, but it's not a big part of even their mentality when they come out. They're trying to get away from that.
Starting point is 00:36:13 You understand that? They want to escape all of this butting of heads and all the rhetoric and all the insidious talk towards one you know partisan politics is insane but it's but it's tribal now it's beyond parties like when you when you have two parties you're like your party's wrong now it's tribe it's like you are the enemy and what scares me is i got out of egypt just before they started just gunning down the muslim brotherhood so you had uh you know, this is 2013.
Starting point is 00:36:47 You had the second revolution in a year. And the problem was the Muslim Muslim Brotherhood was the largest voting block. So they kept they were going to win the election. But it was creating instability because most of the country was to a certain degree secular and didn't want to vote for this one faction. So a minority faction winning elections was creating this instability. So the military said, here's the answer. Kill him. And that's what happened. So if we're really entering this period, and this freaks me out because other people have brought up stuff like this, and I hate to even kind of talk about this stuff. But if we're at the point where you have
Starting point is 00:37:16 different sides vying for the attention, going out there protesting, escalating street battles already over the past several years between the warring tribes, not the most like, you know, insane in terms of things I've seen and we've had in other countries, but yes, still death, still some pretty shocking and extreme scenarios. Trump's reporter getting shot in the chest, walking down the street twice by this dude and the law enforcement goes and kills this guy. We're going to that point. My fear is if this instability doesn't stop, do we come to a point where those in power just say gun those people down get rid of those people that's the wrong tribe whoever's in power takes it no you can never stop the instability and the only way that you could is if they became a totalitarian
Starting point is 00:37:56 dictatorship that shoved us inside and that's no more instability but that's why i'm saying they'll always be in stability they'll go for the guns before they start shooting themselves. Yeah, that's the only course that makes sense. It's really interesting to hear from one of the common talking points from the left on guns is that you can't go up against the U.S. military. They have nukes and cruise missiles and fighter jets. It's amazing because they've never heard of Vietnam or Afghanistan. So the government really does have to go after guns before they can do anything to lock down the people or be totalitarian. And you can 3D print guns now.
Starting point is 00:38:32 So yeah, it's kind of like if you have like a CNC machine or, you know, don't they have metal 3D printers even? Definitely. You can be manufacturing all this stuff very easily and cheaply now. A lot of people can. Not only that, but there's the... What's the gun that can shoot one time before it breaks? The ghost gun?
Starting point is 00:38:50 There's a plastic gun that can take one round and it fires and then breaks. I don't know if it breaks, but a lot of them do break easily. 3D printing is not as advanced as people think it is. A lot of liberals think that you could just click print and get a fully automatic machine gun. That's not how it works. They thought Glocks would not be able to be detected by metal detectors
Starting point is 00:39:08 because they don't understand what gun parts are. Exactly. So they really... There's some guns that are made with plastic, but again, they don't last that long.
Starting point is 00:39:15 They are very difficult to make. You can make certain components for it, but making a full firing firearm is very, very difficult with 3D printing, to be completely honest with you. We're kind of jumbled a little bit, but I wanted to get your perspective. Do you think that's a fair kind of analysis of the Vietnam reference when it comes to the United States, especially
Starting point is 00:39:35 in our current kind of political crisis? Do you think there could be a similar kind of conflict? It's possible. You wouldn't have said that again, you know, four years ago that that would have, you know, I think back it was October of 2019 when the Washington Post came out and did an interview, viewed the ranch. You know, the very things that we talked about, I don't mean that like I told you so in any scenario like that, because this is just what we do. This is what we pay attention. But civil unrest. We talked about epidemics. We talked about all these things that are going on. And when the article comes out, you know, the the hatred underneath all the remarks and things. People just could not believe that that could possibly happen even then. And now we're two steps past that. Now we're going
Starting point is 00:40:34 to have a financial reckoning soon. Yeah, that's what I was going to bring up, because I was going to say, we were just talking about politically, and there's a big chance that something like a new kind of popular Occupy Wall Street could happen. There's a chance of that. But the more likelihood kind of scenario is economic that a lot of people aren't really looking at that I think is the huge kind of tsunami that we're still not seeing the ramifications of. It's the cascading effect. So to us to reach that point, it's going to be continued lockdowns and or different variants will come out of COVID as we're already starting to see in the news which continues this it's this long process that wears people out and then the you know the straw that breaks the camel's back will be coming for people's guns it's a perfect time
Starting point is 00:41:18 for me to bring up i pulled up the washington post article and there's a perfect quote for what you just said from this is from Drew Miller. Quote, You know, people use the term civil war, and that seems hard to imagine, but what started World War I? Some guy assassinated a minor Archduke. Stuff escalates unpredictably. Yep. That's it. The straw that breaks
Starting point is 00:41:37 a camel back. You don't know what it's going to be or when or how. I think it's... Oh, sorry, I interrupted you. No, no, no. It's the Liberator was that gun you were thinking of. It's a one-shot, 3D printable pistol. And a ghost gun is a gun... It's full plastic no no it's the liberator was that gun you were thinking of it's a one-shot 3d printable pistol and a ghost gun is a gun it's full plastic though yeah the firing pit the firing pin plastic too uh it's got to be i think the entire thing was i don't know to be honest um they printed it it was like one of the first guns they ever 3d printed in 2013 and it shoots once and then it breaks a ghost gun i don't think it breaks but i think uh
Starting point is 00:42:01 it's it it doesn't have that many rounds that you could shoot with it. Yeah, this calls it a one-shot pistol. You have to reload. Put one in and it fires. And they did break a lot in the early days. It was dangerous. You had to pull the trigger with a string from far away because it could explode in your hand. So be careful. Not reliable.
Starting point is 00:42:18 And a ghost gun is a gun that's printed without a serial number. Yeah. There's probably lots of those. Is that legal? No, I don't think so. No, you're supposed to. No. Yeah, you can't do that but was the american revolution legal well no that dude um what was that guy's name in in in uh was it tacoma or olympia or whatever who showed up at the ice facility yeah he had a ghost gun yeah he he made a weapon and he showed up and
Starting point is 00:42:41 was firebombing and and it's it's it's all been this cycle of gradual escalation that i think a lot of it comes from the media a lot of the tensions the the people being inflamed crazy it's it's not just the mainstream media though it's social media like look at this this clip from uh from uh you know this guy drew what's his name let me pull that brett weinstein thing back up um don winslow this this this what is this let drew, what's his name? Let me pull that Brett Weinstein thing back up. Don Winslow. This, this, this, this, what is this? Let me see what he's got. 22,000 retweets.
Starting point is 00:43:12 3.8 million views. 3.8 million views. These people are being radicalized by some random dude. Well, is he random? Let's see how many followers he's got. He's got a verified account. He's got 636,000 followers. These people are psychotic. I'm sorry, man.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I, I, I, I repeatedly on all of my segments say, you don't want this. Tone it down. Stop doing this. Stop saying these things. And what do they do? They make more videos. They ramp it up. They go crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Like I said, man, if you follow all these QAnon people and these conspiracy things, I think it's nuts. But what are they complaining about? Global elites, the 1%, the bankers, the politicians. There's some issues with that for sure. You know, some people get their lives threatened and that's not a good%, the bankers, the politicians. There are some issues with that, for sure. You know, some people get their lives threatened, and that's not a good thing. And there have been politicians people tried to kill. It's terrible. But these people are making videos targeting regular Americans, just because they're wearing a red hat or waving a Gadsden flag.
Starting point is 00:43:57 That kind of amping up is coming mostly from the left. And it's going to result in more extremism and the targeting of regular people. And I've seen it. going to result in more extremism in the, and the targeting of regular people. And I've seen it. I remember in, I think it was 2015. I watched an elderly couple get shoved to the ground, their hats ripped off and set on fire. I've seen regular people just walking on the street, get punched because they thought the person was a Trump supporter. All this has been piling up. And that's why I've been saying for some time that I think we're headed towards whatever you want to call it. I don't know. Civil war. Do you like to say that?
Starting point is 00:44:26 Maybe maybe Drew is more correct when he said things escalate unpredictably. We don't know what, when or how, you know, will be that main catalyst that shot heard around the world. No idea. Hopefully it doesn't go that far. No, and circling back to what we were talking about, even about that 5% chance that something can escalate and that could actually happen, the idea is that's not happening tomorrow. There's things that are going to have to take place. Before. Right. Calm down, folks.
Starting point is 00:44:58 It's not going to happen tomorrow. But it could happen tomorrow. Well, we could get struck by media tomorrow no we've got 25,000 national guard in dc right now worried because of a threat of armed militia groups occupying the capital there have been literal statements from individuals not prominent individuals there was one guy who got arrested for leaving a voicemail saying he's not i don't want to repeat what he said but he threatened to go down and and do some crazy stuff with people. And they arrested the guy.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Right. But in order for what we're talking about to happen, something has to be organized. Again, there still has to be – there are things that need to take place. I truly believe we're heading down that path. And depending on what our politicians do, it will direct that path one way or another but then you throw in the media jumping all over it it doesn't even have to be just for political reasons it's sometimes it's just about money and it's just about the influence and the power that's gained over that uh you know there, there's so many factors,
Starting point is 00:46:06 but it's definitely building for sure. Well, when you have Democrats, look, you had Ted Cruz and a variety of some other individuals calling for unity. And the response from Ocasio-Cortez was, no, resign now or be expelled. So if the established Republicans are like,
Starting point is 00:46:24 chill, we'll unify, and the Democrats say no. And don't get me wrong, you had Democrats after the election saying, Republicans, let's unify. Republicans said no. So it's really just like incongruity. Neither side is willing to back down. And now that the media has been shoving this capital right in everyone's faces, it's crazy. There's a video of a guy in a maga hat walking up to cops and saying why aren't you doing anything call for backup this is the capital call for backup trying to stop what was going on i saw this on reddit and the comments were whoa a sane trump supporter that's crazy when you see comments like that that this idea that every single
Starting point is 00:47:02 trump supporter is a moron or psychotic or a Q conspiracy theorist that's leading to this conflict. It means that you're reading too much Reddit. No, it means that you've got Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks doing an op ed for The Hill where he said you have three factions, the leftists, the establishment and the right wing conspiracy nut jobs who are all stupid and believe fake news. And I'm like, I wouldn't even say that about the left. I'll say there are prominent figures that are driving this, that are escalating it.
Starting point is 00:47:29 But I try to separate the establishment from leftists because there are leftists who I think are good people. And I think, you know, I disagree with or have bad ideas. It's about it. And that's that's like the old saying, you know, conservatives think that liberals are misguided. Liberals think conservatives are evil. When you have videos like this saying they're all evil, it's just going to get crazy. But I don't know, man. A lot of people
Starting point is 00:47:50 like to say that it's something the left has no idea what they're getting themselves into because conservatives are more likely to be armed and prepared and know what's going on. But I'm not entirely convinced it would be so one-sided. I think if there really was some kind of conflict, it's probably going to be urban versus rural that's like a big driving factor for whatever reason different cultures and there's going to be things that people on one side of this i don't control or don't have and it'll make things very difficult for everybody which is why anybody who talks big on this stuff and wants it to happen has has i i think there's no idea what they're talking about yeah they're clueless there are some people who have emailed me saying you know
Starting point is 00:48:24 because i've said this over and over again you know people who really want this have no idea what they're talking about. Yeah, they're clueless. There are some people who have emailed me saying, you know, because I've said this over and over again. You know, people who really want this have no idea what combat and conflict is really like. And I've gotten emails from people saying that they served in the army or the Marines or, you know, they've been overseas in conflict and know exactly what they're talking about. There are people who are staunch, you know, believers in traditional America and the Constitution and all of this stuff. And they're ready and willing and angry. And they and there are some people who know exactly what it means. And that's freaky. I think the problem is then you have the left, which is the opposite factor.
Starting point is 00:48:56 And they're just angry and they don't know what they're asking for. So the ignorance is driving them. Yeah, you have a you definitely have a combination um that is gonna again i always go back to what what the politicians do with this right it's not like they're unaware and so what what happens to either fuel we know what the media is going to do they're just going to fuel it that's they're in the business to do that. Whatever side you're on, that's how you make money. But look at, look at someone like Ocasio-Cortez in order to make money for in donations.
Starting point is 00:49:33 She does the exact same thing. She ramps up the escalation, the tensions. She snapped back, clap, clap backs at the Republicans. Always the Republicans are the worst. They're always bad. Right. Cause she, well, she's vying to get power, right? She has not been in there that long.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And so it's also a power play on her side to, again, you know, politics is all about that influence and gaining all that backing in order to do what you think is right to do, whatever that may be. And, you know, she's not there yet. So that's part of how she's playing it. Well, let's jump to this next story, which kind of feeds into this. We have this from the Hill. Hillary Clinton said, I would love to see if Trump, quote, was talking to Putin the day the insurgents invaded our Capitol. It's just ridiculous. But it's all about playing to the tribal politics and finding the boogeyman to rally their base and go after the other side and the next story part of the same story is that clinton pelosi call for 9-11 style commission into the capital riot and putin's role
Starting point is 00:50:39 so there's no sign of de-escalation i, let me read a little bit so we get some context here. They say there is strong support in the Congress for establishing a 9-11 style commission to investigate Trump's ties to Vladimir Putin and Russian involvement in the Capitol riot. In an interview on Clinton's podcast, You and Me Both, released Monday, Pelosi made the revelation after the 2016 Democratic presidential candidate discussed her concerns that the outgoing commander in chief was compromised by the Kremlin. We learned a lot about our system of government over the last four years with a president who disdains democracy. And as you have said numerous times, has other agendas. What they all are, I don't think we yet know. I hope historically we will find out who he's beholden to, who pulls his strings. The former secretary of state got specific, questioning whether he spoke to Putin. I would love to see if his phone records, I would love to see his phone records to see
Starting point is 00:51:31 whether he was talking to Putin the day the insurgents invaded our Capitol. We now know that not just him, but his enablers, his accomplices, his cult members have the same disregard for democracy. Asked by Clinton whether the nation needs a 9-11 type commission to investigate and report everything they can pull together, Pelosi said, I do. As I said to him in the picture with my blue suit as I was leaving, what I was saying to him as I was pointing rudely at him, with you, Mr. President, all roads lead to Putin. The top House Democrat said at the outset of a reply, going on to say she does not know what
Starting point is 00:52:05 putin has on him politically financially or personally but what happened last week was a gift to putin because putin wants to undermine democracy in our country and throughout the world we had we had the whole muller probe it was a 30 plus million dollars spent coming up with nothing and now here we go again muller probe 2.0 mean, this is just like QAnon paranoia level stuff, conspiracy theories made up, pretty much suggesting that Putin was ordering Donald Trump during the Capitol siege. How naive, how insane, how much of a crazy person do you have to be to go there based off absolutely no evidence at all, hyperbolic theorization of the worst possible scenario that you could imagine,
Starting point is 00:52:53 but yet again, pushing a very Russian-phobic kind of narrative. Russophobic. Russian-phobic kind of policy that we've seen from the previous administrations. We also have seen Mitt Romney call for more Russian sanctions today. So we're going to see another big pivot towards a very aggressive foreign policy against Russia, against, of course, its major allies within the entire world. And why isn't this stuff banned? You know who doesn't like Russia succeeding? China. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:20 That's right. Well, they're like in a quasi kind of alliance, too, but they're also at odds in certain aspects historically as well. But why isn't this paranoia? Why isn't this fake news? Why isn't this conspiracy theory banned on Twitter, on Facebook, on YouTube? Hillary Clinton should have her podcast taken down immediately for violations of terms and services and spreading well bad information that doesn't help anyone and is based off no truth at all with no evidence we're not at that point where they're banning podcasts yet but they're trying so there's been a series of of articles where they're like
Starting point is 00:53:53 podcasts are where the real radicalization happens and they point out that a bunch of podcasters had their youtube channels banned or twitter banned but they're still on itunes and spotify so it's coming but the bigger question is, you know, Twitter banned 70,000 people for posting Q-related content, not even outright conspiracy stuff. It was people, I believe for the most part in this leaked video we got from Project Veritas, they were mostly talking about the election, you know, voter fraud and things like that. So Twitter bans them. But what about the people who said the exact same thing four years ago and are saying the exact same thing now? The fact that we have someone like Jack Dorsey and Vijay Gade saying we accept this tribe's
Starting point is 00:54:32 unhinged conspiracy, but not this one. To me, it's like Jack Dorsey wants people to kill each other. And the reason I say this and the reason why I've been very harsh on the man is because I sat in front of him and said, if you keep doing what you are doing, you will create civil unrest and potentially some kind of civil war. And then I was like, I'm building a van, getting ready to bug out because of what's happening in this country. And they laughed and said it was silly and so dumb. And I got emails from people saying, you're so silly, you're so crazy. And then I got emails from people a year ago saying, man, you were right. And then I got emails from people, different people in the past couple of weeks being like, dude,
Starting point is 00:55:07 I've got people tweeting at me now like, wow, maybe Tim was right about all this. Yeah. When you have billionaires in Silicon Valley telling American citizens you are not allowed to participate in this conversation, but the Ayatollah can. Chinese ambassadors can lie and smear our soldiers and they can post pictures of Australian soldiers slitting the throat of children. They can post that. It was an artistic render of it. That's allowed. Twitter allows this. And only after massive outcry to do anything about it. But they will proactively purge people on the right. Recently, there was a post from
Starting point is 00:55:45 China about why it was good. They're operating concentration camps and they left it. And they told these journalists it does not violate our rules. And it was only after basically everybody said, dude, allowing China to post in favor of concentration camps kind of messed up. They finally took it down. They proactively go after conservatives. Think about how dangerous this is when you have an American citizen who is expressing their opinion on their political preference. You ban them for that preference. Then you have an Australian citizen go on Twitter and say anything he wants, and it influences our elections, and they allow it.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Eventually, you're going to get a bunch of angry americans watching european australian or canadian policies be running amok on in our political discourse in our news and they're cut out they're going to lose it we they already nuked parlor right and that's that's one of the cascading effects is definitely going to be the assault on free speech and that is going to be one of those key elements that will bring about individual events that then build again to that point where we're really going to see a problem. But it's interesting. So a point of perspective, having been, you know, spending 12 years in the country of Belarus, which is just outside of Russia proper. And basically, you know, it's like the the they have a very awkward uh relationship trying to be a small independent nation but so much of the russian news is so anti-american you wouldn't believe it it's
Starting point is 00:57:13 everybody does need the boogeyman yep and you know we are theirs and sort of this frenemy situation uh but it'd be interesting to see how the incoming administration, what kind of relationship they're going to try to have. Oh, it's clearly antagonistic to Russia. At least it's favorable to China in that regard, try and prevent war in the Pacific, but that's not good either. What China is doing with the Uyghur camps, what they're doing with Hong Kong, it is what nightmares are made of. Well, it was also officially declared today. This is also news that happened that China was
Starting point is 00:57:48 declared to be committing genocide by the United States, especially when it comes to the Uyghur Muslim population. So that news also just happened today, by the way. So we have the story here from CNN. U.S. accuses China of genocide of Uyghurs and minority groups in Xinjiang, which I'm probably pronouncing wrong. They say, quote, the genocide is ongoing and we are witnessing the systematic attempt to destroy Uyghurs by the Chinese party state. U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a statement on Tuesday, the last full day of the Trump administration, since at least March of 2017, local authorities dramatically
Starting point is 00:58:22 escalated their decades long campaign of repression against Uyghur Muslims and members of other ethnic and religious minority groups, including ethnic Kazakhs and ethnic Kyrgyz. I'm sorry, I can't pronounce it properly. The U.S. State Department has previously estimated that up to 2 million Uyghurs, as well as members of other Muslim minority groups, have been detained in a sprawling network of internment camps in the region. Former re-education camp detainees have told CNN they experienced political indoctrination and abuse inside the camps, such as food and sleep deprivation and forced injections. CNN reporting has also found that some Uyghur women were forced to use birth control and undergo sterilization as part of a deliberate attempt to push down birth rates among minorities in Xinjiang. That's the level of depravity going on in China. So it is kind of worrying that, you know, you have
Starting point is 00:59:15 the Biden transition team, which includes people who have been favorable and defensive of China, and now they're trying to shift all the focus onto russia i i get it russia's you know we're adversaries in a manner of speaking but they're nowhere near as big a threat as say china is that's kind of being ignored yeah it's a it'll be interesting because the real threat comes when china and russia decide that they're going to unite and and then you have a real problem. I mean, we have the safety of having borders that there's no large army that can come across. Well, those Canadians, man, you've got to watch out. Well, they started working with the Chinese military and doing drills very near the U.S. border. But China and Russia have already joined in quasi-partnerships economically,
Starting point is 01:00:05 also financially with trade, and also militarily by doing many military exercises together. Geopolitically, they're usually on the same side when it comes to Iran, Syria, and they kind of have a weird relationship where historically they were at odds with each other. And it's still kind of tense, but they do have a mutual common enemy, and that, of course, is the United States. So if there would be a conflict with one, there would be a conflict, most likely, with another in one way or another with either support or actual even bigger presence of a bigger alliance together. Absolutely. We're powerful enough that we can defend ourselves, say, today, right now. but all of these internal struggles is what's going to bring others and we get to that point of you know unrest or to the point of civil
Starting point is 01:00:53 war well then you can expect our borders to look i see foreign troops i was bullish three years ago i'm bullish now you know it was it was years ago I was watching the political tensions escalate between Antifa and groups like the Proud Boys. And I was talking about my fear of a coming civil war. And I guess what a lot of people didn't realize is that my experience is coming from Occupy Wall Street. I watched hundreds of thousands of people. I traveled all over the country during Occupy, and I saw the anger people had, and it wasn't going away. It was escalating. The protests died down a little bit, but I could go around anywhere, talk to somebody and they tell me the exact same things they were mad about.
Starting point is 01:01:29 I watched the tactics of these black block, far leftist type smashing windows and getting crazier and more destructive as time went on and eventually got to the point where, you know, they were in larger and larger groups. It became they got they got a new colloquial term, Antifa. They didn't have that back during Occupy Wall Street. We just called it the Black Bloc, you know, left or anarchists because there was no discernible group. Now they fly a flag.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Now they share similar ideologies. Then they started going up to Trump rallies. And I saw what was going on with Trump. Trump supporters were fed up. They were angry. The divide was getting crazier. And years ago, I said that, you know, look, I'm reading these stories that are predicting this stuff based on what I've seen on the ground over the past decade. It feels like it's happening. Then we get to the point where, you know, you have you have Charlottesville. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:02:18 dude, I'm telling you, man, this stuff's getting crazy. I feel like you're going to get a tit for tat after that. Then the media lies about what Trump said following the Charlottesville, you know, the very fine people hoax that he didn't condemn them. He did. And that you should look it up. You should read what he actually said. Watch the video. You'll be surprised if you didn't know that already.
Starting point is 01:02:34 But then you end up with years of this, of right wing groups, left wing groups fighting. And it culminates in a series of, you know, major shootings, deaths. We get Aaron Danielson was his name in Portland. He's walking down the street. Some guy yells, puts two bolts in his chest. This guy is then, he flees the scene. The feds find him. They kill him.
Starting point is 01:02:56 We're at the point where a random shooting occurs where a guy is killed for being a Trump supporter. We got one right here. Here? Yeah, shoot him. Boom. Dead. And I was saying, you see what's going on? A year of riots, buildings being smashed.
Starting point is 01:03:10 We had in Oregon, the attorney, I believe it was the attorney general of Oregon, the AG, suing the federal government, challenging their authority to defend their own jurisdiction. It was the craziest thing to me to see Oregon's politicians telling the federal government they had no authority to stop people from firebombing their building. And I said at that point, I was like, is this where we start seeing the states challenge federal authority? Then we heard from the Boston Globe that never Trump or Republicans and Democrats staged a war game where John Podesta, top Democrat, Hillary Clinton type guy, you know, in her circle, actually said it would be better for the West Coast to secede from the union
Starting point is 01:03:50 than allow Trump to win. And then Trump didn't win. And what do we get? The Capitol gets stormed by Trump supporters. I'm not going to pretend like it's the most egregious, you know, like armed groups were like marching on D.C. They're trying to compare to the War of 1812, like the British soldiers storming and come on, calm down. But it still is one of the most dramatic escalations we've seen in this. And if I was reading this stuff years ago, thinking
Starting point is 01:04:12 this was going to happen, and we're here now, I'm surprised there are still people who think nothing is going to happen from this. The media is going nuts, smearing Trump supporters. They're not going to just sit back and say, okay, I guess we're evil. Well, so the question now comes to, will there be someone to fill that void? Because I think part of the problem was, I mean, there did tend to be a certain uh looking to the person more than to the ideal that you stand for and uh i mean it's understandable if that's the only person you feel is speaking for you so now where where does it pivot um you know as you were looking at the second impeachment which probably the goal is so that he can't run again right Right. So you squash that. And then, you know, all the talk that you've we've been reading about reprogramming and,
Starting point is 01:05:13 you know, the truth and reconciliation commissions. Right. So you you see that there's trying to be a breakup, right right of what is most feared from their angle and that'll be interesting to see where that void is filled and who that person is or that group is before anything can really again get get that traction to do something that is uh going to take this past a tipping point they're they're pushing more censorship you know we've had uh i think it was msnbc host saying people should be i don't know if it was msnbc i think it was uh cnn what they were saying ban facebook outright i think it was msnbc they were like i think it was scarborough saying you provide nothing i could be getting wrong so forgive me if i'm being the wrong person. They might as well create a bill saying that the
Starting point is 01:06:06 internet is only for the establishment left, and that's it. No one else could talk. No one else could say anything. Only you if you have the special regurgitation powers of the establishment. You get special privileges, just like in China. You have a social credit score. You could access certain things in society if you're
Starting point is 01:06:22 a good little establishment slave. I was going to use a naughty word there. I can't, but I'm controlling myself now. I'm on Twitter right now. I'm retweeting a whole bunch of crazy stuff on Luke We Are Change about the insidious love of power happening right now with the establishment growling all over Joe Biden. We have CNN literally just moments ago saying that the side lights on the National Mall's reflecting pool are like the extension of Joe Biden's arms embracing America. CNN News right now saying that, specifically David Callen of CNN. And then, of course, we have Lauren Wolfie, who's at The New York Times.
Starting point is 01:07:00 The New York Times made a statement saying that they're going to be critiquing this presidency just like they did the other one. That's their public kind of word. And then Lauren Wolfie says, Biden landing at Joint Base Andrew now, I have chills. She's got chills. With a photo of, of course, the airplane coming in. This is just a creepy level of... Yeah, this is weird. So, here's what people
Starting point is 01:07:20 need to understand. The government is power. It's all confidence. If you have half the country not believing in the power or the legitimacy of the government, then they won't have that power to exert. And that's probably why they're doing the screenings on these soldiers because these soldiers are – look, we heard from the Oath Keepers, from Stuart Rhodes. He said that half the country will not view anything out of Biden's mouth as legitimate. What happens when soldiers are feeling that way? Well, this is why they're flexing. This is why I think they have over 25,000 National Guardsmen showing them, look at us. We're the authority. We are strong. We are powerful. I think this is
Starting point is 01:07:54 why the mainstream media is in overdrive right now, 24-7, nonstop saying, Biden's the best. He's beautiful. He's glorious. He's going to save us. He's going to do everything for us. As, of course, we all know, he's barely there. He represents the special interest lobbyist more than even Barack Obama wanted to be represented in the U.S. government. This is going to be not just a new back to the new normal. This is a back towards pushing towards a state that is truly at a very dangerous point well moving forward from here what's what's what's the old stereotype of the of the bar fight you got some loud boisterous arrogant dude pushing people around saying yeah i can do whatever i want and there's some quiet guy minding his own business just sipping his drink and then the guy comes up he's like come on buddy what are you
Starting point is 01:08:40 looking at and he's like dude just leave me alone i don't want to get into it and it's a stereotype of the quiet guy being the actual tough guy. He doesn't want to fight. He wants to be left alone. Let me have my drink. You do not want to fight. You will regret it. And the guy talking all the smack is the one who gets smacked down.
Starting point is 01:08:55 So if they're coming out flexing as hard as possible, it seems like a facade. Like they're actually – the actions they're taking scare me because they have no confidence. The fact that they would vet our soldiers, the fact that Chris Cuomo on CNN would say we can't trust our military. I'm like, geez, dude, they're scared. Issuing that letter. You see that letter that got released? It was who was Joint Chiefs issued a letter saying Biden won. Trump is not the president.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Do not support him or else. Then we got all of the living former secretaries of defense published an op-ed in the Washington Post saying anyone who supports Trump to keep him in the presidency will be prosecuted. The fact that they have to put out these messages, send out 25,000 troops, vet them. They are terrified that they have lost control and they have lost confidence of enough of this country that it's going to create real instability and they don't have the power anymore yep they have everything to prove and nothing backing it and this is why it's it's such a scary time because they could be going for broke and doing unspeakable things and just like we mentioned uh before starting the show and this is kind of the theme that we've been talking about in general uh usually the people who call for combat violence are usually the ones who have never experienced it.
Starting point is 01:10:10 You experienced it. You know what it's like. Is there anything you want to say to some of these kind of radicalized voices about, you know, what you see in a war zone and the bigger kind of potential dangers here yeah well so you have the right the xbox um player who gets this false sense of reality like they understand combat and uh they understand tactics and and they know all that with with with a controller and i think it gives sort of this uh false bravado and maybe a false sense of they actually think they know what they're doing. But, I mean, I doubt they've seen charred bodies
Starting point is 01:10:54 and people blown in half from an RPG and someone they know with a bullet in their head. Those things change you. Those things never leave you. And while in a war situation it's something you have to do, it should not be anything you're looking to do because you have no idea. You can turn that television off and
Starting point is 01:11:26 you can put that xbox controller down but you witness and or take part in that violence you won't sleep right movies online videos they do not convey the true experience of seeing mangled bodies. And one of the most – I think a lot of people will not understand it unless they ever experience it. They think they might. They think they – oh, I've seen videos online. I've seen – nah, man. I've seen videos online. a guy laying on the ground with his lower lower legs were roast beef as he was looking at his
Starting point is 01:12:06 mangled meat and his hands were just not functioning and he's trying to move it the feeling you get when you see that level of destruction of a human body is something you will not experience in a movie in a video game well it is now clinically proven that someone with PTSD, that your brain is actually rewired. Yeah. It physically happens to your brain. I can't even... It's crazy. I want desperately to convey the emotion I felt when I saw a dude whose legs were gone.
Starting point is 01:12:41 And he was looking at them trying to get up. And I'm like, dude't you can't get up yeah but people who who like these these lefties who go and play larp and they these antifa people throwing fireworks and stuff man they they they don't get it there was a video out of portland and it and it it was funny and it was sad but it also made me angry where a dude got an abrasion from like a from like a you know where those phone expanding foam rounds and so they put a tourniquet on his leg i remember they put a tourniquet on his leg because he had he had an abrasion with some it was some bleeding and they were he was like don't i don't want to lose my leg and they're like we got to stop the bleeding man i'm like
Starting point is 01:13:16 these people if it ever truly came to the conflict they've been calling for will cry so hard begging for their xbox days back just to go back and have that that papa john's stuffed crust with the garlic dipping sauce just one more time they also don't understand what it's like to not have resources and to eat garbage and just man they've not they've not seen real struggle they've not left this country many of them you know that's that's a again i i always go back to that that perspective you know that pinpointed perspective when you have nothing else to rely on outside of what you've seen in a movie on television or uh you understand i mean you can
Starting point is 01:13:58 understand to a point i mean i i i oddly enough feel some empathy just because I understand the cluelessness that comes from a lack of perspective. And we also forget how privileged we are, how amazingly lucky we are to live in a Western world, to have the Internet, to have everything at our fingertips. Even though we're going through a very tough economic turmoil, we still have it way better than the majority of the world. And traveling the world and covering some conflict, there were some events and things that I've personally seen in my life that I just blacked out. I know I've been there, but I don't even want to go there. I don't even want to think about it. And this is why I've been always pushing, hey, let's try to resolve this, calm down, take a step back. And it's very funny because the voices, your voice, my voice, a lot of other independent media voices that are trying to bring reason to this insanity, that are trying to calm things down, those are usually the first ones that get the nail, that get the hammer hit on them directly by big tech censorship that is trying to silence individuals from even expressing these resolution voices. You know why?
Starting point is 01:15:09 Well, the people who are invested in the conflict can't have people begging everyone to stop fighting. I don't agree with that. I think the people calming them down are fine. No, no, no. What I'm saying is there are people on the left who want to fight. And in order to justify their fight they need the people to fight them so if we come out and we say stop stop doing this like brett weinstein's unity party they nuke it right if you challenge them and tell them to stop they're going to come
Starting point is 01:15:35 after you but if you're truly trying to calm people down you're not telling anyone to stop you're creating something new what do you mean you're making a better place for everyone to go telling people to stop focusing on the conflict and the chaos is different than telling them to start focusing on growth. And that's what we do. Well, telling someone to stop is different than telling someone to do something else. Brett Weinstein didn't tell people to stop. He said, let's bring people together and find where we agree and do good things. I don't know. I can't speak for that. They banned him. They banned him. When you look, there's a tactic among left wing activists.
Starting point is 01:16:11 And I'm not saying this because I'm trying to drag the left again. It's because the right is not organized in this capacity when it comes to protests. They're not organized. That's why all these people from the Capitol weren't wearing masks. They had no idea what they were doing. And that's why they're going to go to prison. It's why when the Proud Boys got into a fight with Antifa in New York City, Antifa told the cops, F you and ran away, even though they were supposedly the victims. And the Proud Boys said, we'll tell you everything, officer.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And guess who went to prison? The Proud Boys. The cops said, we would have arrested Antifa. We don't know who they are, where they went, because they have strategy. They have organization. And they know how these tactics work. One of their tactics is to purposefully get someone falsely arrested. They want a regular person walking down the street to be thrown to the ground and beaten
Starting point is 01:16:51 by a cop. So what they'll do is they go to protests of normie, you know, college student kids. They go, they'll crouch down and they'll chuck a rock at a cop. Then the cop will grab some 22 year old woman, throw her to the ground, and she'll be freaking out. Why is this happening? I didn't do anything wrong. her to the ground, and she'll be freaking out. Why is this happening? I didn't do anything wrong. Then once she gets out because they bail her out, they supported her.
Starting point is 01:17:10 They'll say, don't you see how evil these cops are? You should join our group. Shave the side of your head. Put on this black hoodie. We're the ones who saved you. It is a common tactic they use. Get people to be the victims. They want right wing individuals at the Proud Boys to show up and fight them.
Starting point is 01:17:26 That's why I say it's a stupid thing to do and they shouldn't do it. They want it so they can film it, take it out of context and then show regular people. See, they're the bad guys. Join us.
Starting point is 01:17:34 We'll keep you safe. When the Proud Boys announced they're going to go march around with their American flags and their Gadsden flags, what do we hear from the left? White supremacists are coming to target minorities
Starting point is 01:17:44 and racist attacks. extreme uh version of what has not having nothing to do with reality that's the propaganda technique so they need the conflict so if we're going to come out and say y'all you don't want to fight it's bad you don't understand how bad it's going to get they're like no no stop them stop them they're actually trying to get people to calm down. That's bad for us. Well, it's how, listen to my point. Telling someone to stop fighting is different than doing something different that they can focus on instead of fighting. And if you're telling them to stop, you will draw the aggro of the elite, of the people with money. They don't want to hear you telling people to stop. They want to see you do something new, like write a song or build a new technology that people can use.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I think ultimately anything that threatens their radicalization engine or their tribe or their moral authority and justification. Anything that threatens the flow is at risk. The agenda, the narrative, they'll find a way to hit it. I mean, if you look at the YouTube purge, a lot of it first was independent media. Independent media was screaming about child abusers, radical Islamists, other kind of crazy people and individuals exploiting, whether it was puppies or little children on the platform, they were still allowed to have a voice. The first crackdown, the first crackdown came on independent media, came on regular mom and pop small shops of individuals saying, I want to be a YouTuber.
Starting point is 01:19:07 I want to share the news from a perspective that's not from a corporate special interest. And the first censorship was on dudes that were screaming at George Bush, saying that he was a child effer and a goat effer. It was that that guy, Philip Warren. He was the first internet censored guy and he was probably censored on in the right because he was aggro as f um independent media is a very vague term you can you can be aggro independent media you can be creative independent media i think aggro stuff tends to get banned though. It really is a bias against the right.
Starting point is 01:19:47 And I think it's hilarious that it's obvious if you take an objective view on what's going on. Look at Parler. Just totally wiped out. It's gone. It's obvious.
Starting point is 01:19:58 You know, you look at the channels that are allowed to be on YouTube. They get promoted. Establishment channels, of course, are protected. But then you look at left-wing channels where they're talking about Russia and supporting these unhinged theories. And there's been no reconciliation. There's been
Starting point is 01:20:14 no justice. There's been no fairness in any of the policies put forth by these platforms. It's like I was saying yesterday, Jack Dorsey is in a far left bubble he can't see out of. To him, all of these things are normal. So when he sees a regular working class, you know, 45-year-old guy tweet something about learning the code, he goes, an extremist! Delete! Not realizing most Americans have no idea what you're talking about. But they're getting nuked. These platforms are controlled by, you know, one of a large portion, for the most part, of these ideological tribes.
Starting point is 01:20:52 YouTube seems to be, this is surprising, is bad. There's a lot of problems with YouTube and censorship. Way better than Twitch, for instance. Twitch will ban you in two seconds for giving a conservative opinion. Because their user base is too left. And then you have Twitter, which is very left. Facebook, which, this is interesting. i used to upload my videos to facebook and i stopped last week when they restricted my page for covering what happened at the capitol that's it and people were like i had people even commenting
Starting point is 01:21:18 saying all i did was say here's what's happening here's a tweet Here's what's happening. Here's the response. Gone. Yep. I have a Telegram page with 5,000 subscribers, and then I have a Facebook page with 600,000 subscribers that was like that for a number of years now. I get more web traffic and reach through the 5,000 group on Telegram than the 600,000 group on Facebook. That's why we're telling everybody to go to timcast.com and become a member, because I fully expect, look, my Facebook page, it page it's over now i can still post to it but there's no point the the posts are all restricted they've stripped me from monetization which i wasn't really getting in the first place i didn't care all that much when it happened but it shows you the cliffs are once again eroding it's only a matter of time before they come and say oh you you're you're telling people to calm
Starting point is 01:22:05 down. Look, we'll get to a point where they'll say their fight is righteous. And, you know, defending these people means you're either with us or against us. And so by defending people, by saying don't fight, you're defending them. Therefore, you're banned. We'll get to that point. It'll happen. And I don't know when, but I imagine it'll happen soon. The first thing they're trying to do is get rid of all many voices as possible, because they only want approved channels. YouTube's wanted to be Netflix for a long time. They don't like the idea that anybody can start a channel
Starting point is 01:22:32 and just share things. They don't like the U in YouTube. But they want to maintain the user base, which they have, so that's where we're headed. So yes, go to timgast.com, become a member if you want to help protect us in the event that they nuke the platform. It's possible.
Starting point is 01:22:48 And we're trying really hard to get like a core dedicated user base to subscribe. And then we'll put up more and more member-only content and stuff like that. But I really do hope things get chilled out. Steve, you were mentioning that you guys don't use social media. Is there a reason? Yeah, it's uh well as an organization again we have no axe to grind there's no benefit for us uh in that manner we people who come to us already have a mindset the mindset that matters is to have a mindset to be prepared. And that mindset is
Starting point is 01:23:27 more important than commenting on all these things that are just going to come and go on social media. What you mentioned your organization, like what's the organization like of the organization top down? So Drew Miller is the CEO. I am the COO. Then each of the ranches have ranch managers and assistant ranch managers. We are veteran owned and operated. So we only hire former vets or former law enforcement. We actually have two openings. We're in need of a ranch manager out for the Colorado branch, and I'm in need of an assistant ranch manager out in West Virginia because we keep moving staff around as we expand. So you have the manager, the assistant manager,
Starting point is 01:24:20 and then how many people potentially would have spots at a ranch? So we don't give out exact numbers for security reasons, but each ranch will round out around 100 until we would expand more. We don't want to expand, make any one ranch too large. We're looking for 12 across the country so that nobody has to drive too far in case of an instant event. And that's because it helps to keep it small for like one manager and assistant to take care of any potential conflict or struggle that would arise. Right. So just the idea you just keep building more staff and staff and staff to be able to do
Starting point is 01:24:59 this properly. And then you need more resources, more resources, more resources. So there's an equation there that we look at as what would be best fit for that location. And then we spread that out. What do the manager and the assistant manager do? So, well, there's so much maintenance expansion. You know, I don't do any of the sales or anything along that lines we have a sales crew but i do do the tours and i do the vetting of prospective members and then when members come out uh to use their free days then i'm available to them to do training to help them. What kind of training?
Starting point is 01:25:45 A lot of the time it's with firearms because we have to make sure that we won't allow anybody to pull guard duty in a crisis or a collapse situation unless they've been approved. That assistant manager position looks pretty tempting. I should talk to you about potentially filling in that need after the show. Everybody else stay away. That's my job. In the event of, let's say there's a national crisis and deeply affects the economy and people's ability to survive. So they all come in. How does that structure work? I mean, are you guys the boss? Will you tell people? Yes. So they have a membership agreement that they read and sign, which informs them of the standard operating
Starting point is 01:26:34 procedures to a certain degree. But the main point is we are in charge. So let's say food is in short supply, but you guys have, you're stocked up for a very, very long time. Well, the key to sustainability is not having a warehouse full of food, but having your own ecosystem. So we have cattle, goats, chickens. We have not only our 114 acres to hunt on, but we have the national forest that abuts us, which is another 1,800 acres to hunt deer, bear, turkey, grouse. And we have a stream right across the road. We have really good fishing in West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:27:15 There's only one natural sand beach and we're not located too far from there. It's the stock. So, well, so what happens if there's a total collapse? People can't pay their membership anymore, right? Right. So now it's just what? Start working? Start farming?
Starting point is 01:27:28 Start hunting? There's going to be plenty to do. Actually, there'll be a lot to do initially, and people tend to be out of shape these days. So I don't know. They'll get ripped real quick. Yeah. I don't know how much work I'll get out of them right in the beginning. Do you have horses?
Starting point is 01:27:42 Really quick. Sorry. We do not on property, but we do have horses. I'd imagine that the kind of people you'd attract would, they understand that if it hits the fan, they're going to start working harder than they've worked probably. I look them in the eye and I explain what the situation is. In order for this to work, everybody has to pull their own weight. I got to ask you this question. The audience has probably heard me talk about this before, but during Occupy Wall Street, farmland was donated to the activists. I knew several activists who said that they didn't want to live in these cities and they wanted to go live on the farm and be sustainable. How long do you think they lasted after they went to that farm?
Starting point is 01:28:23 No idea. Wild guess. How long do you think they were there before they to that farm? No idea. Wild guess. How long do you think they were there before they said, you know? A month. Two weeks. Oh. Two weeks. And, you know, the people who came back, my friends, were like, I would wake up at 6 a.m. and work until midnight and go to bed and wake up at 6 a.m. and work until it was nonstop.
Starting point is 01:28:40 No chance to read. No TV. Nothing. It was literally just tending to the animals. It was farming. It was endless work. And I'm like, like yeah that's called living sustainably absolutely you want to live in luxury in these cities sure it's not so easy when you're responsible for for everything right and there's not only you know so we have you know hundreds of thousands of seeds
Starting point is 01:29:01 to be able to grow each season and And then as you do that gardening, then you also dry the seeds of the, those things that you had raised. And so you just have a continual cycle. We don't have to worry about relying on electricity. All of our, everything is on grid, but we have solar on each of the ranches that would kick on automatically.
Starting point is 01:29:24 If we ever lose energy. And then the main fuel when you look to prepare for the worst is you need plenty of wood because that's going to be your fuel for heating. Every single building has a wood stove and it's flat top so that you can cook on it you have to think these things through uh in order for this to work now here's the the tough question you might not be able to answer let's say the collapse happens and all your members come in but then you see one day you know you guys are working you're tending to your your animals a couple families look really really hungry and desperate
Starting point is 01:30:05 come up and they say we you have to let us in do you let them in no no i don't i don't let my kids in they're not members only members what do you what do you do when a group of people come and they're they're they're they're yelling we're gonna die you have to let us in what happens if they try and run in what What happens if they have weapons? Well, we have more, but there's your answer. No. And I, I'm joking. It depends on, it depends on the circumstances.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Yeah. Safety would be a priority for those who are members. Now is under a crisis situation, you could approach the ranch, but you'll meet the initial guard post, and our members have to get out and identify themselves, and those are the only people that are on the list are allowed in. Now, depending on the circumstances, as things go and we have an abundance of food there isn't an epidemic i don't want to sound heartless and cruel but that is the rule i mean i literally when i took the position told my kids hey you know either sign up don't come me and tim have screaming
Starting point is 01:31:22 arguments about a strategy here that maybe you could help us settle. Because I know an amazing community with special forces, Green Berets, preppers, homeschoolers up in New Hampshire. And I saw a plot of property open up. I'm like, Tim, maybe this is something you should look at. He's like, hell no. I'd rather go to the middle of Montana. And I told him. I said West Virginia.
Starting point is 01:31:42 What are you talking about? Well, West Virginia. But also you made a statement about going in the middle of Montana, and I'm like, you would look like a... I said a straw man argument. And you would look... The argument is West Virginia or New Hampshire. See, here we go. We get very tense when we argue about this.
Starting point is 01:31:55 West Virginia or New Hampshire. Now, I'll tell you right away. He's already on my side. He's in West Virginia. Well, if you have a community of like-minded good people, would you rather be on your own and look like a filet mignon steak to a whole bunch of crazy hungry wolves in the wild and not knowing anyone in West Virginia? Or would you rather be – Hold on, hold on. Or would you rather have a good community of people? Hold on. Let me start over.
Starting point is 01:32:20 The actual question is, is New Hampshire a better place than West Virginia when it comes to soil? It's not about the state. There you go. It's all about location, location, location. Wherever it may be, if it has a fresh source of water, if it has timberland all around it so that you can hunt, use the wood. If it has the ability to have natural protection then you could do it anywhere what would you do the natural protection so we're surrounded by mountain ranges all around us uh same thing in colorado nevada's off and and you're on the high
Starting point is 01:32:58 ground and we're on the high ground that natural protection being protected from humans well not only but you do want it to be defensibleensible because coming over the ridges on all around us is virtually impossible, not in mass for sure. So my position, Luke is defending New Hampshire, but my issue is the Northeast population density is substantially higher than West Virginia. Yes, which can be a risk, but you know, so, so for us as a model, we're actually located two, two hours outside of a major city is the only way that it works in order to, and again, but the location has to be right. But part of the reason is there's no way, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:41 part of our job is to help folks. So we, we have to be in a place where they can get to. You have to have a market for those who are going to be the most affected, and obviously it's the cities that are going to be most affected. That's 100%. That's where it starts. That's where it bubbles over. It all goes from there. The suburbs aren't much safer. You still can't do much if you're in the suburbs.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Well, another important point, you don't want to be moving around when ish hits the fan, family-friendly show. That's the way you phrase that. It hits the fan. Yeah, I was talking to some people who live out in more rural areas. They were telling me that when the COVID thing happened, nothing changed for them. My life hasn't been affected one bit. Not one bit yeah not one bit i mean other than me having a mask in my truck for when i go to the store you know go pick up supplies at home depot for you
Starting point is 01:34:31 know things that we're doing i i don't know anyone who's caught it i i west virginia was the last state to have the first kit you know the first ones to have any, and it's really not disrupted my life whatsoever. Regarding crops, like right now, are you guys growing crops, or is it only like we have seeds and we will start growing if? So we have five acres we use for hay to be able to feed the animal. So in order for me not to just be a farmer right now before anything happens, we have 20 head of cattle on reserve. There's nothing around us but chicken farms and cattle farms. And so we have a deal with the
Starting point is 01:35:11 local farmer. He comes and he in the spring, he, you know, spreads the manure, he cuts it, he bails it, he leaves me what I need for the animals that I have. And he takes the rest to augment. Is he de facto part of the community? No, he actually, he's pretty well set up where he is. A lot of people in West Virginia are. Yeah. If something really bad happens, these cities, I think it was Drew Miller who said something, 72 hours to animal?
Starting point is 01:35:34 Yeah. Oh, yeah. When it ignites, again, and that's what I'm saying, when all those pieces are in place, when it does go up, I did the tapping. I was warned people but uh when it happens yes when all the right pieces are what's that 72 hours to animal what do you think is going to happen to new york city in three days oh they'll start eating each other yeah yeah yeah that kind of animal i see yeah i just had a couple come down last weekend
Starting point is 01:36:03 from manhattan they're They're running from New York. They bought land in another state, but they joined my ranch. You're also selling plots? Yes. We actually have RV. We expanded our RV. I am looking for employment. We – so we have – we're always looking on how best to serve folks. And earlier there wasn't a large demand for the RVs, but now there is after all that's been going on.
Starting point is 01:36:39 So I had an excavation crew in there, and we've done a lot of excavation to expand the RV situation. And we've already sold a couple of three-acre plots of land where people are going to build their own little log home or whatever they're going to build on the property but still be part of the community. Wow. A dome, maybe? We've been looking at building domes. You ever check out geodesic domes? Oh, I have heard of them. Well, so we're located right near the – I mean, we're literally, maybe? We've been looking at building domes. You ever check out geodesic domes? Oh, I have heard of them. Well, so we're located right near the mountain.
Starting point is 01:37:08 I mean, we're literally, right? We've got ridges all around us. So the most affordable way is you just dig in, too, and all that land that you're taking out of there to build your foundation, you put up here to give you a level space where you build. Cool. So you can actually have your own you know small little bunker as you drive in you already have some hardened security and then you go up to your home yeah and then you have a guard force all around putting like shipping container burying shipping containers and using those yeah cool the domes i think is a fun idea because it's
Starting point is 01:37:38 like cheap and they're super structurally sound right we and we could build it we don't need a professional architect that's just like literally bolting down. There's a reason hippies do them. Oh, absolutely. If hippies could do them, anyone could do them. And we are hippies.
Starting point is 01:37:53 We do all our own construction. We keep our costs down that way. Right on. Well, let's go to Super Chats. See what the... Probably a lot of questions for you from the audience, so we'll go through them.
Starting point is 01:38:02 If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe at the notification bell, and become a member at TimCast.com because we have a ton of questions for you from the audience. So we'll go through them. If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe at the notification bell, and become a member at TimCast.com because we have a ton of fun bonus segments coming up. Probably some gun stuff, I'd imagine, at some point because, you know, Luke likes guns. We should make a trip this weekend. We'll talk about that. We'll make a video for the members.
Starting point is 01:38:21 So, yeah, go to TimCast.com, but let's read the Super Chats. Johnny Knoxville, who I don't think is the real Jenny Knoxville, would like us to know thatast.com but let's read the Super Chats. Johnny Knoxville, who I don't think is the real Johnny Knoxville, would like us to know that he's naked. Thank you for the Super Chat. I appreciate you
Starting point is 01:38:30 giving me $2 to let us know that. Thank you, sir. Live free and prosper, sir. That's right. Jonathan Galterini says that Judge Preska in the,
Starting point is 01:38:37 what is it, Ghislaine? Ghislaine Maxwell case. Ghislaine Maxwell. Hearing orders the unsealing of more documents, more documents to come. That'll be interesting.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I'm keeping a very close eye on that situation c miller says leftovers from yesterday i also have a smith and wesson victory a lot of 22 pistols get failure to eject because they have stiff recoil springs use cci high velocity in all 22 semi-autos works like a charm that's it that's that was a problem we had we were taking the victory to the range and it wasn't ejecting properly so I was getting jammed. It's annoying. Probably lost a ton of good 22 that way.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Redacted says, me and the boys updating our Twitter bios to add resist, not my president after tomorrow night. The new resistance is here. Can we take back resistance? Yes, again. Joe Spitali says, have any of you seen the anime FLCL? Spoilers, it ends with a giant weapon used to iron out the wrinkles in your brain so you can't think. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Yeah. It's a great show. It's only, I think, what, six episodes? Or is it four episodes? Six? I think it's six. Short, short. Yeah, and then they tried doing a sequel, which was kind of just derivative, and it's just so dumb.
Starting point is 01:39:40 Dan N says, we're in Canada watching your country biting our fingernails. Jeez. You know what's fun about Canada? Poutine. Yeah. and that fresh curd cheese but i went to a poutine restaurant and it's not just curds and gravy they had all different kinds is amazing yeah i used to work at a french canadian and we so we ordered like three different kinds and i'm like that's a lot of potato, we're all Canucks up there in New Hampshire. We love it. Graham Wilson says, recently you've made a few statements on what you believe National Guardsmen reactions would be in regards to everything that is happening.
Starting point is 01:40:13 I'm a filmmaker and former National Guardsman of 12 years and I'd love to help inform. Hit me up. Can I talk about this real fast? I actually asked a couple of my sources. I was like, what is the morale level there in D.C.? And the response that I got was they're just confused. They don't really know why they're there and they don't really know what's going on. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:40:30 yeah, it's consistent with what every single person Did they get called up? Were they on the reserve and they were just all stood down and they got called up? I believe so. I read it was from all 50 states as well. We got one for Luke. Bruce the Boss Brooks says, Luke, I'm waiting for that How Many Lick
Starting point is 01:40:46 and Fraudulent Slip t-shirt. Ah, yeah. That's great ideas. I've gotten like a hundred emails from people about alternatives. Thank you guys so much. So far all the shirts are still on wearechanged.org forward slash shirts, but if that changes
Starting point is 01:41:02 it's still going to be the same URL. But I'm looking at changing. And thank you. Really great advice. Let's see. Kaui Ryder says, tell the truth. He really works for Vault-Tec. So you're familiar with Fallout.
Starting point is 01:41:15 I am. So your facility, which experiment are you running on your, I'm just kidding, cryo freeze. So for those that aren't familiar with the Fallout series, there was a bunch of vaults made by the Vault-Tec Corporation and the government. But they were actually running experiments on the people who were seeking shelter. Some of them were. Some vaults were specifically for experiments, actually. Yeah, but I think there was only like one. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:41:36 There was some that were legitimate shelters, but a lot of them were doing experiments. There was, I think it was Vault 69 was 99 men and one woman, I think it was. Or no, no. Was that 99 women and one man? I don't know. Probably that. And then there was one where they used the forced evolutionary virus on people and turned them into mutants. Fallout's a fun game. Vaults are cool.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Do you guys build vaults? Is that stuff you even talk about publicly, like your underground network? Well, it's eight inches of reinforced concrete covered with steel plating, three foot of earth. Wait, wait, you actually have those? Yeah. Wow. 120 foot long, one of them. Do you ever do like tours of them or do you keep them?
Starting point is 01:42:12 Yeah. Oh, that'd be cool. We do. Like that you would post online? No. Oh, okay. Top secret. And the locations are secret too, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:42:19 Mm-hmm. Wow, that's rad. Cool. Cool stuff. Let's see what we got here. Daniel Maxwell says, if what is happening to the National Guard personnel right now does not set off warning alarms, then you need to take a very close look at what happened in Germany when Hitler took over, in Russia under Stalin, and in China under Mao, repeating history again.
Starting point is 01:42:38 You know, I think what happens is these people in power are scared they're losing the confidence of the people. And that's all government is. If people have no confidence in you, they're not going to listen. I will say I like that phrase repeating history again. Well, they say history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. Alberto Rio says, I understand that I understand this is a little late, since this is more of a question that should have been asked on your last show have any of these business owners looked into 18 usc 242 when fighting these unconstitutional orders from governors we'll have to ask them uh next time i suppose caper 2x says when the saucers land on the mall we will wish for more troops and forget what we do if they demand to cook and eat our
Starting point is 01:43:21 leaders wait so that's why trump is leaving early. LOL. Yes. The aliens are coming. We didn't get to the CIA segment, but, you know, whatever. The Wolfshark says, y'all might be interested in contacting Gary Anderson for the show. He is the cop that got fired from Portland
Starting point is 01:43:35 for speaking against lockdowns a few months ago and started the podcast Endless Endeavor. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's cool. I'm writing this down. You're going to love this one. Larry Goddard says, you're Heisenberg. Have you heard that one before?
Starting point is 01:43:49 When I was in Belarus, I was Lenin. I look like Lenin. Ian Hall says, ah, S, get your tinfoil hats here. Released from the lab. Look at patents. Michael Dodson says, my girlfriend works in healthcare, and they received an email today telling them to be prepared for curfews
Starting point is 01:44:07 and to pack go bags to last multiple days. They're located well outside the D.C. Beltway. Interesting. Purpley. Count Ludwig says, Police state is here. As a historian, I think that peaceful secession
Starting point is 01:44:19 of liberty-minded states probably only way out of tyranny or civil war. It can be done. Norway seceded from Sweden peacefully in the early 1900s. Really? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:44:29 That was one country, two different countries. Petty says, Tim, I will buy all of your 9x18. There is nothing on shelves for my PMM down here. No way.
Starting point is 01:44:36 I just, someone sent me an email for a Czechoslovakian gun and I got it ordered. So my previously useless Makarov 9mm will be fun. Can you get more of that
Starting point is 01:44:45 makarov nine millimeter i don't think so really i just i i don't remember what happened but i was was not paying attention and i just bought a bunch and the and the dudes were cool about it they were like we get it you probably made a mistake most people don't realize this i was like i'm keeping it yeah it's more valuable than the gun yeah ammo's harder than the weapon yeah dude i'm seeing it's barter for the future Well, that's why I like common calibers and common guns like Glocks, because everyone has them. There's a lot of them. There's a lot of pieces.
Starting point is 01:45:11 Anything goes wrong, you'll be able to fix it. You'll be able to trade it. And all the customizable parts are very cheap compared to the rarer guns. Oh, that's interesting. So continuing from the comment about Norway, Count Ludwig says, and some of the nations in the USSR, such as Estonia and Latvia, gained their freedom in 1989 by literally holding hands and singing songs. Just a few years ago, Scotland almost left the UK by voting. That's right. That was a singing revolution in Estonia. I really do think we're at a point in history that if, say, Texas or California voted outright, overwhelmingly within their state to secede, the U.S. would do nothing. No way.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Yep. Do nothing. They'd be surrounded by federal troops. It'd be invaded in every corner. They'd have their power shut off. They'd have their – The problem is – Scotland was conquered.
Starting point is 01:46:00 And they're voting to leave. The problem is Fort Hood, Texas, the largest military base in the free world. San Diego. With three divisions. The naval base in San Diego, they wouldn't let that go. It's too— What would they do? The coastal fortresses of San Francisco.
Starting point is 01:46:15 What would they do? They would invade it. They would massacre the leadership and put new leadership in. Then why is Scotland allowed to have these referendums? Scotland's part of the British Empire. They haven't left. And if they tried, we probably would have saw a conflict. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:46:28 They're voting on it. They're talking about doing it now. There's memes about Scotland wanting to leave the UK but join the EU. Let's wait and see. U.S. is the most militarized country in the world. I cannot fathom them letting go of their resources right now. Yeah, but I just think we're well beyond the point where people support that kind of action it was easy to do back in the day when no one knew about it yeah
Starting point is 01:46:50 but do you support 25 000 troops in dc no who does exactly yeah but they're doing it anyway but it's causing problems of course you see it's actually people are talking about how it's showing them to be weak and it's worrying it's a it's there's a lack of confidence in what they're doing they're trying to make people think they're strong that's scary smash that like button if you haven't already let's read some more super chats all right let's see we got here control alt right says no you can't cnc a gun cheap or easy coming from a guy who knows interesting mad says hey tim a few weeks ago my uncle
Starting point is 01:47:25 and I were talking about the Proud Boys. 15 minutes later he asked if I was a Proud Boy. Jokingly I responded, oh for sure. Then my headphones Siri said I figured I threw my phone. That's weird. Anthony Picas says, there is no issue with creating a gun with no serial number.
Starting point is 01:47:42 It just has to be serialized before you sell it to someone else. Yeah, a bunch of people are saying this. Edz says ghost guns are legal also you guys are horribly outdated on your 3d printed gun knowledge look up the fgc9 you want to look that up fgc9 i wrote that down nice ryan berkabile says weird boys podcast on youtube and facebook we will talk anything parano, cryptid, and most conspiracy. You guys rock. Appreciate it. We'll get more into that as we're getting away from, you know, we'll see how things
Starting point is 01:48:12 go with politics, but we'll get more into it. Gareth Green says, I grew up on the religious right and I thought the Democrats were the enemy in the 90s. Interesting. Helpless Gazelle says, I'm a veteran with the Gadsden flag on my backpack. Am I a threat now? I served my country honorably. Some states even offer it as a license plate.
Starting point is 01:48:29 That's crazy. You can get the Gadsden flag on your license plate when you go and you say, I'll take that one. Yep. And now they're saying that's a sign of your, that's crazy. John Hutto says, you can make a gun without a serial number, but you cannot transfer it to anyone. It is yours and yours alone forever. Can't even have someone repair it for you. Liberator has many design iterations that have improved in many ways.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Interesting. Yeah. Another person mentions, George Pumphrey says, control is over FGC9 with a simple 3D printer. Wow. I'm looking at FGC9. It actually stands for F, gun control, F as in fornicating under the king's crown. And it looks pretty serious. The barrel looks metallic, but there's different variations.
Starting point is 01:49:15 There's also, it looks like nails, metal nails that are commonly used that you could use. So it's a counterpart, but I'm reading up on this. It's pretty interesting. You still need like a metal barrel. Yeah. That's what this model that I'm looking at, I think, has specifically in there. So that's what we're looking at right now. It's a carbine.
Starting point is 01:49:33 It's a carbine. What does that mean? Well, it's like a specific, you know, smaller firearm. I don't know. How would you describe it? It's a classification. Yeah. Does it mean it's smaller than a normal type of weapon of that type?
Starting point is 01:49:50 No. I mean, I can look it up. But it's a semi-automatic pistol caliber carbine, the FGC-20. I'm sure someone will super chat us, giving us the breakdown of what a carbine is. I'm not a gun expert by any stretch of the imagination, so I'm not even going to try. Fubidu. Fubidu. Fubidu. That's a good name.
Starting point is 01:50:06 It says, ghost guns are, in fact, legal federally. Check state laws. Some do ban them. Search for deterrence dispensed to find out more about 3D printed guns. They have advanced quite a bit and last thousands of rounds. Really? That's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I remember the defense distributed stuff years ago, so I'm definitely outdated
Starting point is 01:50:23 on all that stuff. This says carbine is a short barreled rifle. There you go. Just means do you have a three printers at, uh, in your facilities? No, I think you should get them. I think, you know, it's, you can print like really simple thing like knobs and hinges, maybe like missing parts for something, something breaks repairs. So it's pretty handy, pretty easy stuff.
Starting point is 01:50:42 Although I guess you need someone to be able to do like the CAD stuff right like 3d printing yeah kind of but once you figure it out it's actually very simple download download a file hit go yeah maybe you need a nozzle or some kind of you know component that isn't made anymore mark wolf says this practice of rhetoric is old and reliable sadly we haven't changed much much aristo wise uh aristo wisely defined rhetoric to be a science to persuade the people socrates and plato an art to flatter and deceive interesting gareth green says remember when they called benghazi a partisan witch hunt oh yeah archangel says i got banned on twitter for sharing video of democrats calling for more riots said it was for posting spam you know there you go keith reyes says tim it is 100 legal to build it build a non-serial firearm hence 80 lowers for ar-15s and polymer 80 builds for glock sig style
Starting point is 01:51:37 pistols what is illegal is for a person a person to sell a non-serial firearm that's really crazy we've got 3d printers are we really well we'll look into this and make sure we need a metal 3d printer though but that's that's metal that's like an industrial thing right it'd be a big one printing molten steel or something or molten metals all right then i don't know about that maybe a cnc machine yeah i've i i knew a dude who had a big one it was cool he was he would print rocket parts you'd watch it like cut through the metal and stuff was awesome yeah and then he'd be like look i made rocket parts and we're like just in the other room yep wow that's cool yeah all right let's see we got here kiwi2113 says i just watched your interview with david packman from a year ago
Starting point is 01:52:20 and i'm curious about how much both of your opinions have evolved since then that was from longer than a year ago i'm pretty pretty sure. Wasn't it like two or three years ago now at this point? I don't know. I don't know either. I have no idea. Maybe we'll have another one in the future. Booker DeWitt, catch, says, Tim, and actually anyone there, that was a joke
Starting point is 01:52:38 by the way, I wonder how many people got it, and actually anyone there, I know this is off topic, but would you mind explaining Gamergate? Maybe just a quick explanation. I have a hard time understanding it and no it can't be done it just you can't it was uh no you can't gamer developers no we're get got woke there you go it's so much it's it but that's that's not fair it's not you can't do it do it justice you can't because it's not about that it's about collusion corruption right they hadonyism. They were paying companies to write articles to make positive game reviews. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:53:09 It's more complicated than that. Advertisers would buy an ad on a website. The website would review the company's games but lie and say they were good games because otherwise they would lose sponsorship. That's only like 0.1% of what was going on. So you can't even get into it. Vanessa Aponte says, Deep State probably told Trump, if you even try pardoning Assange, you'll be hanging with JFK. Well, what I'm hearing is that Republicans in the Senate said, we'll convict you. So you better not pardon Assange.
Starting point is 01:53:40 And Trump said, okay. And they're going to convict him anyway. Just like that $2,000 scandal that, again, Trump promised he was going to give everyone. And then all the representatives said, no, no, no, no. We're going to do it a different way. He got screwed that way. We got screwed. The Republicans don't want Trump running again.
Starting point is 01:53:55 So the Republicans will be like, I guess we have to convict. And then Trump will be able to run because they'll have gotten him on insurrection, which then the 14th Amendment, I believe it it's article 3 or whatever says you cannot run for office or hold office if you've ever in inside insurrection against the country also i'm looking at the fgc uh nine uh part list there's a lot of metal parts there's a lot of building it's not just press print and go uh it seems a lot more complicated but thank you for that informative super chat um it definitely um um you know made me aware of it gunner anderson says luckily i run my a i run ak's my 4.5 uh by 39 millimeter and 762 by 39 are readily available and still around 35 cents around clash life there's a lot of stuff you go to the store and they have like 40 caliber and uh what's what's another like they have a 10
Starting point is 01:54:44 millimeter i was able to get some nine millimeter today which i'm very happy about but it all depends on the location like in new hampshire 380 was readily available now here uh undisclosed location middle america it's not as readily available so it all depends and yeah kalishnikovs uh i love ak's they're my favorite even though ar is a little bit more practical and useful. Jacob Brownfield to the rescue. Long arm in pistol cartridge carbine. There you go.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Oh, that's simple. Crazy Larry says, I bought a camper for starting off-grid lifestyle before COVID hit. Been prepping with dehydrator vacuum sealer. Ready to work. Will be emailing soon. First Super Chat, long time love of the show. Very good. Yeah, so it's uh it's fortitude ranch.com yeah people should check it out but we'll we'll do another round of of promoting it too once we get through some more super chats and start winding down justin edelson says look at spain they didn't allow catalan to leave
Starting point is 01:55:38 and that's true they definitely they went in and the cops but it wasn't the cops were just beating people you know i was there actually when they did that a couple years ago when they were doing that vote and the cops were just beating people the barcelonian police do not play around they are vicious i remember covering them as well they sent in police from madrid yeah because barcelona the cops were loyal to you know catalonia well the the repression down there was crazy and this is the event that led julian assange to losing his internet because he actually promoted the independence of catalan here's this is interesting freedom thought says uh three percenters sent an email telling people not to go to the capital protests calling for peace and logical action then their website was removed that's what i'm
Starting point is 01:56:19 saying about people saying don't do it they're going to take you out yeah a lot of people are saying as i mentioned yesterday don't go to washington dc it's a trap there's there's going to be some kind of bigger possible action just stay away jd zepp says love the show did any of you guys see the video of a strange light floating and flying around the capitol buildings in dc last night what no but i want to i've been reading about ball lightning you guys familiar with that phenomenon apparently when lightning strikes it can create a sphere of they don't know what light or plasma or something that can contain material and pass through walls and like it's a ball lightning it's it go through i mean my friend jeremy riz said that it can go through solids
Starting point is 01:57:00 like windows but windows are actually liquid glasses in the form of liquid so maybe that's why it can pass through liquid but it can contain a piece of sand and move it through glass who's your film says what is the mayans uh the mayans were dyslexic and the end of the world is 2021 not 2012 yeah could be yeah i've heard that not alfaria says in fallout the vaults worked as advertised were the control group so they were still part of the experiment no there you go i guess uh yeah yeah so the the ones where people got to live normal lives well that was the control but who was monitoring the experiments the enclave i think that was the enclave right i suppose maybe now we're getting a lot of fallout comments
Starting point is 01:57:38 gabriel logan says tim it's extremely disrespectful to talk about mangled bodies around a combat veteran it's different for us we couldn't leave when we wanted to and that could be us the next day would you would you agree absolutely yeah yeah gunner jones says hey tim i got fired today from my job because i was watching your videos and they said i was watching racist videos at work i don't know if i believe that to be honest because what what would the video have been about we were talking about race yesterday which is technically racist i mean they think they think everything's racist tell them they're racist because this is a minority-owned company and a minority-led show correct so how dare they racial genius ginger says a carbine is a rifle that fires a lighter caliber like a 40 smith and wesson nine millimeter or a 556223 not an sbr x says cheap metal printer the iro 3d we should get one of those really
Starting point is 01:58:33 iro 3d william monroy says for metal look into lost pla casting cool avanav rao says hey tim appreciate the consistent quality content you and your team are putting out simply put are we now living in ccp america close to it almost yeah i mean they're running concentration camps and trying to take over taiwan and hong kong and hong kong's falling so they have a social credit score which of course many corporations in the united states built for them people forget china is as powerful as it is, mainly because of the Kissinger Doctrine and American elites that are still propping it up. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:10 Elite Machine Works says, Hey Tim, if you are looking for someone with CNC machines and 3D printers, I'd love to talk. Willing to relocate my CNC shop to small community and contribute, I design and produce 3D printers all in-house. Oh, that's really cool.
Starting point is 01:59:24 Cool stuff. Publia says, Go to ivan the troll's twitter and check out his link in bio i don't know what that would be reese ward says if you don't have ammo you are left with an expensive club reminds me of the movie snatch you ever guys see you ever see that the dude's buying the revolver and he's like it's kind of heavy and he goes heavy is good if doesn't work, you hit them with it. And then later on, he finds out it's a bad gun. It doesn't work. Good stuff.
Starting point is 01:59:53 Archangel978 says, please get on Demolition Ranch. You will learn so much, plus the guy rules. Demolition Ranch is awesome. Yeah, I'd love to have him on. That'd be fun. Those videos are so great. You ever watch Demolition? We should do a video with him here, and it would be really, really fun.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Well, he's a huge channel. He makes awesome stuff. I mean, that'd be so cool. Yeah. Yeah. Was I watching? I think I was watching him do a full-auto.50 caliber rifle. We should get one of those.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Yeah, but there's a lot you have to do to be able to— Not full-auto, but just a. 50 cal would be really nice oh yeah you know it's necessary we have one at each ranch yeah it's not asking for too much one well they're great for vehicles i mean uh yeah if you have anything up armored i mean you know but are you are you allowed to discuss i guess even on the surface the kind of uh defensive capabilities you have like do you have things above 50 are you allowed to say no no so 50 is like yeah top tier no uh no no battleships hidden anywhere artillery howitzers or something cannons i have a flamethrower that i own legally lasers yeah what about lasers? That's short range.
Starting point is 02:01:05 I think, I wonder if you guys, you know, directed energy weapons, anything like that. Here's what I'm thinking. You know what active denial systems are?
Starting point is 02:01:15 Yeah, you need some of those, huh? Put them up in the perimeter when it gets bad and people just walk up and walk right back. All of that takes energy. Yep. I bought some of that.
Starting point is 02:01:24 A lot, too. That's the problem. What people don't understand about you know lasers and directed energy weapons is that the amount of energy conversion to hurt someone with direct energy is a lot more than to push a piece of metal through a tube ballistics is incredible even in space ballistics is an incredible weapon because if you puncture the hull of a ship, I mean, that's it. I mean, lasers have their place. And like you watch the targeting they do with the infrared lasers on drones. It just tracks perfectly and just takes it out.
Starting point is 02:01:55 There's no missing. But when it comes to like standard combat, guns are pretty efficient. You don't want to go too high tech. Right. guns are pretty efficient you don't want to go too high tech right you really don't not i mean not for the long-term sustainability model that really is the only one that'll work but i think you'd be able to get off um you know motion sensor activated active denial system for perimeter defense that would be pretty low energy because it wouldn't really ever be on you know you'd be there and then it would flick on and flick off, and people would just immediately go the other direction.
Starting point is 02:02:27 Right. I mean, it would have to have its own power source. Yeah. They'd have to be linked, and they'd have to be some kind of source of energy to tap into. Do you guys use ham radios? We do. Every ranch has ham radios. I was looking at ham radios today.
Starting point is 02:02:39 I kind of want to get one. No, no. Have you created, like, what it? Bonded ham internet? No. That's something that's, you can create a low, there's probably people who are listening who know better than I do, but I was reading about low quality internet you can get using ham bonding frequencies and then actually transmit data and be able to connect it. I heard that it's illegal to encrypt anything over ham radio right now.
Starting point is 02:03:02 Yeah. I don't know if that's true, but I was reading that. Ham's cool. Cool stuff. radio's great all right let's see we got here we got we got a couple uh let's do uh okay i read that one already mad gal mad gal design co says boy it feels like a countdown to what i don't know i just want to live normally again it feels like it will never be the same again yeah Yeah, what do you think about that? It's not going to be the same. Yeah, I've seen people saying that DC will never go back to normal. Why would they give up the power?
Starting point is 02:03:32 They've locked down the whole jurisdiction. Why give it up? We've trampled over so many precedences. There's a lot of things that there's no going back to. Donald C. says metal 3D printers use a layer to scan and selectively melt metal powder particles, bonding them together and building a part layer by layer. I've seen that. Have you guys ever seen that? No.
Starting point is 02:03:54 That's crazy. Not in first person. Yeah, it's like it reminds me of Mission Impossible when they make those masks and the laser like comes down and just makes it. That's cool. I've done it with gel with like resin where it'll use a UV light to harden the resin and it makes it. That's cool. I've done it with gel, with like resin, where you use a UV light to harden the resin and it pulls it out of the goo, but I haven't done it with metal yet.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Blank says, hey Tim, look up the story of Nizinsky, infinitely known as Stalin's cannibal island. A gulag so bad, it turns the stomach, it turned the stomach of Soviet elites. Evil is the real, is real, the horror. So where they put people in a gulag and they start eating each other? That sounds crazy. What else are you going to do if there's no food?
Starting point is 02:04:33 I mean, yeah. Some choices. Carl Flynn says, have you gotten the chance to watch Run, Hide, Fight? I was kind of skeptical at first, but I have to admit, I was very pleasantly surprised. Very well done. Yeah, the trailer looked really good. Gareth Green says, Gamergate. SJW indie text game developer cheats on her boyfriend with gaming journalist who just so happened to have promoted said designer in articles and boyfriend's heartbreak blog goes mega viral.
Starting point is 02:04:59 Oh, there you go. AG says, Tim, why did you skip my super chat about turkey and azerbaijan ethnically cleansing armenians from art sock have you been paid off by turk pr firms no i've actually skipped quite a bit of super chats because we can only read so many i'll vouch for it mason perry says there are long rifles short rifles and carbines caliber is not a factor in classification interesting all right sane says as a retired staff sergeant i want to know how they're vetting the troops in dc are they threat uh threatening threatening them with threatening them with prison if they don't and don't swear loyalty to biden no they're just like you posted about the nra so you gotta go
Starting point is 02:05:42 stupid too curtis mayor says and crew, you guys rock. Ian, it's taken me a few months to understand you, but I really enjoy your mind and how you see the world. Thank you, Curtis. You're not alone. All right, let's see. DA says,
Starting point is 02:05:57 can you talk about the crypto FRT and what its purpose is? I can't. I don't know what that is. Fart? FRT. Let's find out. Fart or fort? or frat i never
Starting point is 02:06:07 heard of it no let's see i can't how do i pronounce your name kay uh caleb oh gosh madigan irish name i am an inventor and use 3d printing to prototype would be happy to come give a workshop that'd be fine i'm really interested in that metal 3d printing thing with uh yeah metal grain and a laser to weld each layer of grain that's that's amazing that's cool stuff nicholas muñoz says any of those great ranches based in california no nevada would be the closest one at this time why would you want to be in california is the question you gotta learn how to yeah pacific beautiful pacific the fault lines and communism fault lines are crazy dude my whole life was changed when I lived in LA like you can't put anything
Starting point is 02:06:49 above your head of course when you're sleeping and now you can you know now that I'm not dreaded moon pie says the more I watch this show the more I crush on Luke image jpeg says ham op here i'd like to share any info 100 watts from ia got me to russia and new zealand you cannot encrypt data on ham frequencies interesting mr veraday says you guys have to be absolutely raking in the super chats too bad it's not in
Starting point is 02:07:19 bitcoin i know i remember when bitcoin was 30, it was like 38 or something. And then people were like, oh, it's too high. And the news came out and said, oh, it's going to tank. Drops down to 30. And I see people tweeting, I'm going to sell now and then buy back at the bottom. And I'm like, okay, you're making a mistake. And then boom, right back up to 35. Bitcoin's going to go up, up, up, man.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Charles Belozian says, my girlfriend thinks I called you out for not loving armenia wasn't me well there you go jq uh nelson film says tim did you see the black lives matter twerk for mlk video you can't make this stuff up it was released by the official blm organization yeah it's not the first time they've done it that's not the first they did it in 2014 and i don't care. I don't know. Luke mentioned it. I was like, they're spending their $10.6 billion on efforts to shake their patanka donks in celebration. And what if... It's just weird.
Starting point is 02:08:15 It's just... I don't think so. It's just not the way to kind of memorialize a religious pastor. I disagree. Well, I think he would disagree. I think he would be kind of disappointed by that, especially the person he was. I think if somebody likes dancing a specific way and you don't like the way they dance... Hey, go all about it.
Starting point is 02:08:33 I'm all for personal freedom. I don't think it's weird. For me, it was just a little kind of distasteful, in my opinion. But that's because you view twerking negatively. Are you a twerker? Are you a secret twerker that I don't know anything about? I just think there are people that do things that I probably don't care for, but I respect people's rights to
Starting point is 02:08:49 live and celebrate and do the things they want to do on their own. Tim Pool, twerker enthusiast. What if they were polka dancing? What if they were polka dancing or square dancing or something? Still, it's just kind of weird to implement that into politics. Again, I'm with you with the personal freedom stuff. To me, it's just a little
Starting point is 02:09:05 distasteful culturally here we go spidge bandersnatch says tim for an anti-war guy you sure do like high-tech weapons yes you see what happens if you have an active denial system surrounding your property there's no conflict there's no war people leave you alone that's simple i'm all for you know look if if the beaches of beaches of California were stormed by an enemy invader, I'd be like, you know, what do you need me to do? Like, I'm here. People, I'll fight. Defensively, if you're like, we're going to send people to Syria to remove their dictators, we can build a pipeline. I'm going to be like, I don't know about all that.
Starting point is 02:09:38 There are other reasons, of course. But, look, if you have really great weapons, you can stop all of it and just it's over it's done there's no war all right let's just read one one more super chat purple says my i am a gorilla shirt has arrived today and it's actually very comfortable and the design isn't super tacky oh want me to tweet it to you um well i don't tweet it at me because i just never even clicked there's i i don't function on twitter you know what i mean but you can tweet it at me because I just never even clicked. I don't function on Twitter. You know what I mean? But you can tweet it at Sour Patch Lids. And if you would like to get your own I Am A Gorilla t-shirt, go to TimCast.com. Click shop.
Starting point is 02:10:12 And it is there. And it's actually the most sold shirt we've ever put together. And it's ridiculous. I'm like looking at the numbers. I think we sold over 800 so far. 800 I Am A Gorilla shirts. Look at Luke with his I'm Joe Biden and I forgot this message. My shirt sales went down 75%.
Starting point is 02:10:27 You son of a gun. Went down? Yeah, they went down a lot. I still appreciate all the support and I gotta eat too. Luke's got these fancy political messages. I'm just selling shirts that's got a cartoon gorilla on it. People should realize that, hey, I think we need
Starting point is 02:10:44 to be more representative of our ideas. I think too many people are shy about their stances. What better stance can you have than wearing this shirt in public to represent your kind of larger discontent with a president who's not really there? Yes. You could do like this stance.
Starting point is 02:11:01 Yeah, there you go. Ladies and gentlemen, smash the like button because many people haven't smashed the like button subscribe share the video if you really do like it sharing this podcast leave us a good review on itunes if you have not checked us out on itunes or spotify do so and follow us however that works and uh it's greatly appreciated but also go to timcast.com become a member because that is the shield in the event we get totally nuked off the internet let me tell you something we have millions of subscribers or i should say you know my channels have millions
Starting point is 02:11:30 of subscribers i've got millions of followers you know everybody here combined we have a decent amount but if we had only 10 000 people out of the millions that were members we'd never have to worry about censorship again and we'd actually actually, that's not even 1% dude. It's like less than 1%. Seriously. 10,000 people as members. And then we can expand, we can hire people, we can grow more and we wouldn't have to worry about censorship.
Starting point is 02:11:54 Isn't that crazy? That out of the millions of people who watch, only 10,000 are needed to create that barrier. About expanding the company. A lot of people have been hitting me up wanting to work for us. Well got to get to that point for this company we got to get to that yeah yeah we'll talk about it off but it it requires a lot of strategy and planning and and right the organization if we can build the structure then we have to find the people the people are i know a lot of people are willing and not it's not about finance just about the structure like what would they be doing where would we be there are podcasts way smaller than this one that have 30 to 50 000 people giving 10
Starting point is 02:12:30 bucks a month and it blows my mind like there's these people with these smaller podcasts and no disrespect because they only have like 50 000 subscribers but because they're paying subscribers they're super rich i wonder why they don't expand their operations probably because they're rich and happy and but i want to do more. Like, I want to get journalists working. I want to get more content, gaming, you know, fun, exciting stuff. So, you know, TimCast.com, become a member.
Starting point is 02:12:53 But, Steve. Yes. Fortitude Ranch. You want to give a shout out, mention anything people should know? Well, we, spots are limited. We're constantly expanding. So, as tension rises and problems get more difficult we can't always uh say that there will be one available um so if somebody has a mind
Starting point is 02:13:16 to do it it would be a good time to do it we uh to become a member yes to become a member we also have fortitude tokensens, which actually puts... Cryptocurrency? Yes. Wow. Wow, really? Dr. Miller actually is a consultant for blockchain and cryptocurrency. Now, this is great.
Starting point is 02:13:34 We should have went deep on this. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So, like, is it the currency you use at the campsites? No, no, it's not about that. It's for people to reserve a spot for a membership. Wow. Cash isn't king when things happen. Hyperinflation.
Starting point is 02:13:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's really cool. Is it a security? Are you familiar with the, or is it a non-fungible token? Well, it's tradable. I mean, you can purchase and they can be traded. Where can they buy it? It's been going on.
Starting point is 02:14:05 Yeah, that I can't tell you because he handles it. It's not under my. So like someone could trade me the token I could use for membership? Yes. Well, you can buy, I mean, you can buy tokens and it holds. What happens, what it does is it locks down the price and it secures a place in line. So once everybody keeps piling in, if somebody comes next week but you want to pull the trigger, then you get to pull the trigger. They don't. Cool.
Starting point is 02:14:32 You're also saying you're looking for investors, right? Yeah. Well, to quickly expand, it takes about a million dollars. If you were to come out and visit West Virginia, you'd see a million dollars sitting in there. Eight inches of reinforced concrete, steel, and three foot of earth isn't easy to do. Talking about my romance language here. Well, so in order to expand, we'd like to give the affordability for folks not to travel so far and open up to different markets. But it will take investors to do that because we use the funds for membership to uh maintain and
Starting point is 02:15:07 expand the current ranches they can come and contact you through the website to uh manager at fortitude ranch.com they can actually be a get part of the business i mean it's uh and then they become a member right yeah and they also become a member cool luke i hear that you have t-shirts oh yeah yeah um i'm gonna stop being ridiculous with it i release videos on we are change i have a separate independent media organization everything about it and how you could be involved whether shirts or other stuff that i do is it's all on we are change.org forward slash donate but also give a double follow to at Sour Patch Lids. I feel sorry and bad because I was so excited
Starting point is 02:15:49 I totally forgot to do introductions. So give a double follow to Lydia there. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. My at is Sour Patch Lids, L-Y-D-S on Twitter
Starting point is 02:15:58 and real Sour Patch Lids now on Gab and Instagram, which I changed to reflect my Gab. And then Ian. I don't have any products to sell. I'm here to sustainably grow this organization and help thrive, which we are on the path to thriving. But you can follow me online at Ian Crosland.
Starting point is 02:16:15 Hit me up on Twitter. I like to talk about science and stuff. So selfless. And don't forget, you can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and Mines at TimCast. Check out my other YouTube channels, YouTube.com slash TimCast, YouTube.com slash TimCastNews. We're live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. So we will be back tomorrow. And tomorrow, I imagine, is probably going to be weird.
Starting point is 02:16:34 I don't know if it'll be crazy, but weird maybe. Just because there's not going to be any people there. So who's coming tonight? Jack. Jack Murphy. We normally don't announce guests, but Jack is a regular. He's reliable. So he's always here. This is going to be any people there. So who's coming tonight? Jack Murphy. We normally don't announce guests, but Jack is a regular, you know, so he's always here. This is going to be a great conversation. We'll see how things play out. So make sure you come back, hang out, and don't
Starting point is 02:16:52 forget, go to timcast.com, become members, help us create this base so that we can expand and do more. And we're going to expand either way, don't get me wrong. But I'm just concerned about what happens if we get banned. Is it over? Not if we get a core base of members. Then we can continue up until the internet explodes, I guess. So thanks for hanging out, everybody. And Steve, thanks again for coming and joining us and talking about Fortitude Ranch. My pleasure. I'm going to be looking into this.
Starting point is 02:17:19 And for everybody else, we will see you all tomorrow at 8 p.m. Bye, guys.

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