Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #212 - WallStreetBets Gets NUKED For Hate Speech, Subreddit Goes Private w/Jason Whitlock

Episode Date: January 28, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia host sports commentator and author Jason Whitlock to discuss the WallStreetBets shenanigans and what it means for the future, Trumpism as a potential cause for the populist p...ull against Wall Street, the return of the r/WallStreetBets, and a good dose of everything that's wrong with race in America.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, a peasant revolt is upon us on Reddit, r slash Wall Street bets for the past, I think, couple of weeks. I mean, honestly, probably for a longer time than we realize they've been going after these hedge funds, these companies that are basically betting on retail shops going doing really poorly. counter this move by rallying everybody, all these small individuals with a couple hundred bucks here and there to buy some stock and things like GameStop and AMC to destroy, effectively destroy these hedge funds. Well, all all today we had people on the left and the right cheering, watching these people buy stock in these companies because it meant that these hedge funds were going to lose billions of dollars for once. It seemed that the working class people were transferring wealth from the 1% to them as opposed to the other way around. Well, there's a lot to go here to break down the story.
Starting point is 00:00:56 I'm sure many of you have been following it. It's huge. GameStop stock went from like 18 bucks to 350 bucks per share. And this is a company that most people think isn't doing all that well. So it seems to be quite irrational. But so the saying goes, the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. I just read that today, honestly. So you look, I'm not a stock person. Here's the bad news. Discord has taken down Wall Street bet server for hate speech. Yep. It's only a matter of time.
Starting point is 00:01:26 When you start taking the money from the billionaires, what do they do? They halted trading. They put a circuit breaker freeze on some trading. They started calling for regulation on Barron's magazine. They were saying we should get a 30-day stop on GameStop. Why? Because the billionaires were going to lose all that money. We can't have that.
Starting point is 00:01:44 The peasants, the plebs, must know their place. 30-day stop on GameStop. Why? Because the billionaires were going to lose all that money. We can't have that. The peasants, the plebs, must know their place. Now, the Wall Street Bets subreddit, where all this is going on, private. So we'll talk about all this. We got a bunch of other stories. We got Vladimir Putin basically saying, we are looking at a World War II type scenario. We got this Twitter troll going to prison for posting a meme, so people say, but it did misinform people on how to vote. And, well, it's a crime, apparently. This dude's been arrested.
Starting point is 00:02:12 So we got a lot to talk about. We'll talk about this. We'll talk about Wall Street bets and the ramifications of this. We'll talk about the stocks. But we have a really cool guest today. We got Jason Whitlock. How's it going, man? Awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Awesome to be here. Thank you, Tim, for having me. So who are you? What do you do? Who am I? I'm a longtime sports writer. Made my name in Kansas City, Missouri at the Kansas City Star in the 1990s and early 2000s. Writing predominantly about the intersection of sports, race, and culture, and eventually got jobs at ESPN and Fox Sports and went out on my own. Recently, I moved fully into TV, doing my own TV show at Fox Sports 1,
Starting point is 00:03:03 and then went out on my own with OutKick. And now I'm a free agent again, about to do my next move and probably try to move into the space you're in, in terms of just being an independent voice of truth. And here more recently, I still write about sports, but I write mostly about race and culture, and that's kind of what I'm known for. As of recent, I think you had a particular critique of Black Lives Matter. I think it's fair to say you're not particularly woke, quite the opposite. No, I am. The whole sports media landscape has gone woke, and I've never been that guy.
Starting point is 00:03:45 I'm not political. I was telling Lydia, she picked me up from the airport. I've never voted. You know, I never wanted a political identity. Now, I am someone that was raised in a church. I am someone that grew up playing football. I went to college on a football scholarship. And so that's where my
Starting point is 00:04:05 values came from, football and the church. And that has painted me into the, you know, I'm seen as conservative, but I'm still not all that political. Although here, this last election cycle has pushed me probably in the next election, I will be voting. I'm pretty confident. I now, I feel compelled that I have to participate in the election process because I'm so disappointed by what has transpired over the last few years here. Well, we have a lot to talk about, especially with some executive orders from Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:04:41 and critical race theory and all that stuff. So we'll get into all that. We also got Luke Krakowski hanging out. Joe Biden would say some interesting things about you if he found out you didn't vote for him. Also, another thing before starting out here, Tim, I got to correct you here. When it comes to some of the censorship happening right now, we do have to understand that the hedge funds managers statistically are a minority. And it's important for the big tech algorithms to police know use you know to police all the hate speech going against them right now so so when you say hedge fund managers are dumb it's
Starting point is 00:05:13 hate speech yeah they're a minority yeah they're a minority so so yeah a lot of hate speech going around a lot of cracking of the whip so i just realized the 99 is the majority yeah yeah that one percent is the minority That's bigotry. Exactly. Welcome back, beautiful and amazing human beings. My name is Luke Gnowski of WeAreChange.org. If you want to find out more about me, you can check out my independent media channel on We Are Change on YouTube. Thanks for having me, Tim.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah, Ian's hanging out. What up, everybody? Ian Crossland. And speaking about Biden's executive orders, I think he signed 30 in his first week. There are about more now. And one of them repealed or canceled five executive orders. So maybe that counts as five, even though this is one is a sign of the collapse, bro. It's shocking. The fact that we are getting to this point where when like Trump signed an executive order on day one, it was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Biden does. I think. How many did Biden do? Did like a lot more couple of days ago? I think it was 30. But then a lot more today. Right. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I don't even know the total. I got to look it up. When your government starts relying on this executive action, just finger snap, trying to make things happen, it's decay. The end is nigh, man. I don't know what's going to happen. Some people have messaged me, some foreigner friends I have, a lot of commentators in Europe and stuff, saying it's not the end of the United States. It's the end of the United States as an empire, as as this global force the country is going to exist and be fine but this is that change that's coming and there's going to be inner turmoil and conflict and it's
Starting point is 00:06:32 you know maybe going to be like the fall of the soviet union he has the house and the senate that are democratically controlled and he's still signing executive orders like a madman there's a lot to get into oh we're and especially with the wall street stuff so we're going to talk about this this is trying times doesn't he have to get into. And especially with the Wall Street stuff. So we're going to talk about this. This is trying times, man. Doesn't he have to get all this in before Kamala takes over? Yeah, seriously. I guess that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:51 He's looking at his watch. What was it like being kind of a political outsider watching the last election? Disappointing. I mean, that's the only word I could use for it. Just because my business has been built on independent, outspoken, free speech, a search, go wherever the truth leads. That's been my motto. And it feels like that's being outlawed in America. Free speech, anybody on a search for truth. You have to take some political agenda, hardcore. And it was uncomfortable for me to realize that as flawed as President Trump was, he was our last best hope
Starting point is 00:07:39 to retain free speech. And a lot of the traditions in America that I actually love and enjoy about America. It was uncomfortable to come to that realization. Like, that's our last hope. Yeah, I hear you, man. Well, we'll definitely get into this because I want to talk. I want to segue from like the Wall Street bets to like this collapse stuff. But don't forget, as we're finishing our intros, we got Sour Patch Lids pressing all the buttons. I am here in the corner.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I am old enough to remember when Joe Biden thought that executive orders were a form of dictatorship. Apparently, he's changed his mind about that since he's been in office. So this will be exciting.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I'm thrilled. Right on. And ladies and gentlemen, we have a wonderful sponsor tonight helping make this show possible. I'm eternally grateful always when we get sponsors, especially in these
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Starting point is 00:10:48 us directly go to timcast.com we have a really great members only post up the other day where tulsi gabbard called cia's john brennan and adam schiff domestic enemies so if you want to hear us swear a lot at those people while agreeing with tulsi because she's awesome become a member at timcast.com let's jump over to the first story and talk about Wall Street bets. My friends, CNBC reports the devastating news. Reddit group Wall Street bets behind massive GameStop and AMC run ups goes private. Invitation required. CNBC doesn't like Wall Street bets because CNBC is where all these crony hedge fund types and Wall Street types go on the TV and essentially it can manipulate markets and trick poor people into losing a lot of money. They say Wall Street bets Reddit chat room where retail investors marshal against short
Starting point is 00:11:38 sellers went private Wednesday. You must be invited to visit this community. The page now states the forum's members topped three million as of wednesday the community gathered an army of rookie day traders who go after heavily shorted stocks pushing share prices higher and squeezing out short selling hedge funds my favorite part in all this everybody loves it everybody except the crony establishment elites but here's what it looks like you go to reddit right, you have to be invited to this community. I suppose that means there's about 3 million people
Starting point is 00:12:08 who are still able to easily access this and see what's going on. But if you're a layman looking in from the outside and you didn't sign up, like me, you can't see what's going on. So let me show you something real quick. I just want to show you the GameStop stock. It's after hours is at $347.51, my friends.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Some regular old people are becoming millionaires off of this. I saw a post from someone. They put like their life savings into it, I guess. And then they made like a million dollars. I'm not saying that's a good idea. I think it's hugely risky. And to be fair, there are some of these, you know, Wall Street types who are definitely saying it's a big mistake.
Starting point is 00:12:43 These people are going to get hurt. Some people probably will. That's why don't take any advice from anyone anyone here on this show anybody saying anything is not advice because we got no idea we're talking about we are not stock experts in any capacity uh and i think for to a certain degree a lot of people on wall street bets aren't either however to be fair a lot of people who go on tv and tell you what to buy are probably lying too yeah now here's here's where it gets really crazy. This is the big, big drop. Discord bans Wall Street bets for hate speech. And that's it.
Starting point is 00:13:11 That's the lie. That's the trick. They've been talking about how they have to censor everybody for their hate speech because they say naughty things that offend people. But what happens when you get a group of people, a large group of people, thousands, tens of thousands, millions,
Starting point is 00:13:24 who are saying, we found out a way to take the money from the 1% and bring it back to the people. Oh my, we've discovered hate speech. We better shut down their ability to coordinate. This to me looks like a dirty game. First, they tried, they halted trading on the stock market. It was a circuit breaker. So that's when like trading goes too crazy, they stop it. But then we saw that some of these platforms like TD Ameritrade restricted trading. So we know what they're doing behind the scenes. The people at Wall Street Bets even think that there's a coordinated effort to manipulate the market to try and save these hedge funds because someone's got to bail them out. They could end up being in debt $10 billion, meaning they're gone.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Now, I don't know what you guys think. To me, this reaps a reeks of phony censorship. Accuse them of hate speech. That way they can try and at least pretend like they have some moral high ground. But who's buying it? I mean, what did you think when you allowed Silicon Valley to aggressively police speech? What did you think was going to happen? Of course, they're going to be using it and abusing it to help out their friends, their family members, the people who serve serve them the people who give them money in and this is huge according to s3 partners short sellers lost 14.3 billion dollars just just on game stock not even including all the other ones game stop sorryomp. Exactly. And then other people are answering back saying, no, no, no, no. Short sellers didn't lose.
Starting point is 00:14:48 People won and enriched themselves to the tune of $14.3 billion because all the market manipulators, all these hedge funds managers that are absolutely hated by the left and the right are finally getting a taste of their own medicine. And a lot of people are realizing, hey, it's only capitalism when it benefits them. And we saw massive, massive pushback by CNBC freaking out. CNN wrote an article, how Trumpism explains the GameStop stock surge. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:15:17 I mean, if CNN couldn't absolutely hate it when Wall Street hedge funds managers don't get their pound of flesh from Main Street. This absolutely exemplifies it. It's absolutely sickening. When the little guy wins, CNN is always going to be backing the big guy. It's crazy. Trump Trump ism.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Yes. Trump's gone. I saw a post of someone there like, wow, Trump disappeared real quick, didn't he? He's out of the presidency and like, we don't see him. We don't hear from him. So what does CNN do? Well, it's Trumpism. I knew it.
Starting point is 00:15:46 We said it was coming. They're really out of touch because it's just like a bunch of kids. Well, I don't know. They're all kids. But like using Reddit forums, that's not has nothing to do with Trump's been around since before Trump. They did use that tactic to get Trump elected. Here's what is new, though, guys. And since COVID, there's a lot of working class people stuck at home.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Their jobs have been shut down. If you're in the service industry, you're not making near the money that you used to make. Many of the people have lost their jobs. And so, listen, I don't want to cry broke here because I'm not broke. But I will say this about COVID and what has happened is that I got heavily involved with my TD Ameritrade account. I have one that my financial advisor runs, and then I have my own little one that because of COVID and I was at home more, I started paying a lot of attention to. And there have been stories written. I think like 16 million people have signed up for their own personal accounts. And so what I think is going on here, they're calling a timeout. Like, wow, we got 16 million new traders.
Starting point is 00:16:58 There's some people that have read it that have figured out. They've gathered up people that have been put out of work the working class and they figured out how to make money and we have to call a time out and figure out how do we respond to all of these new traders and and this new economy that's going on in the stock market and so they're coming up with excuses while they try to figure out how they stop this disruption that... It's taking their money away, bro. Yes. They're mad. But just think about what hedge funds represent,
Starting point is 00:17:31 the destruction of the little man and the small businessman, the individual restaurant owners, the individual stores and providers. Everything is Walmart. Everything is Amazon. Everything is this big global chain. And I think these people, and again, I don't have a full understanding of Wall Street bets and what's been going on, but it just feels like the working class fighting back and the elites calling a timeout. We got to figure out how to stop them. That's what the NASDAQ CEO was considering today, thinking about holding and stopping trades to recalibrate their positions to, of course, combat people on Reddit. And now people on Reddit are even pushing their discussions,
Starting point is 00:18:11 making their groups private, which is absolutely crazy here. But one thing that you also brought up during the whole coronavirus 2020 year, stock market speculators were the only ones who made record high profits while everyone else was wiped out. People realize this. People understand that this is not right because when we look at hedge funds managers, the people on Wall Street, they don't provide any services. They don't provide any goods. They literally move around zeros on the computer and make more money for themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And people are scratching their heads like, hey, if they could do it, we could do it as well. But bro, it's fine if someone is like, yo, 10 000 shares at a dollar oh it's two dollars i'll sell it i just made a bunch of money it's another thing when they start putting shorts on stock where they're basically betting someone's gonna fail while saying we're infusing money but what i'll tell you what the problem is okay fine you want to short sell something you want to take that bet it's risky i accept that too you want to make risky bet. You know what I don't like is when they short a stock, then they get their buddies to go on TV and go, oh, it's going to be bad. You better sell now.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And then everyone panics and the stock crumples. They start laughing because they manipulate the game to make money. This is what they are reaping. This is what they get. And the best part, you were mentioning this with COVID and all that. A lot of these people, young people, a lot of these people needed money real bad. And it took months for the Congress to get these checks out, to even negotiate these things. And some people were desperate, got those and used what they could and did what they did. But there are some people who had some lying around.
Starting point is 00:19:39 We just got $600 stimulus checks got sent around. Now you get a bunch of bored people sitting around with their robin hood accounts td ameritrade and then someone says hey you know those fat cats who made billions of dollars off our back while our economy collapsed you want to stick it to the man and they're like what do i got to do you got a couple hundred bucks i sure do from my stimulus drop it in my favorite thing about this is the establishment is being hoisted by their own petard you know my favorite they want to they want to pump out these billions of dollars fourteen hundred dollar stimulus checks are coming and what do you think is going to happen is the establishment is being hoisted by their own petard. You know my favorite thing. They want to pump out these billions of dollars. $1,400 stimulus checks are coming.
Starting point is 00:20:08 And what do you think is going to happen when a bunch of these young people are like, screw it, and they dump it all to target these short squeeze out these hedge fund managers? It's Robinhood, dude. Yes, it's Robinhood. That's what Robinhood did. Stole from the rich and gave to the poor. And now we're seeing it again digitally.
Starting point is 00:20:22 That's not a coincidence. If this really is a simulation. Dude and of course you're talking about an app that people are using people are using cash app people are using robin hood i personally tweeted out my like uh my cash app and people are like oh you're you're sent you're selling uh what was it shovels during the cold rush here and i see what you're doing here and i'm like yeah i mean it makes sense now of course i'm i'm always very skeptical of Reddit because I know Reddit could be manipulated. I know the stock market is fully manipulated. So we should be cautious here. And another thing to kind of really, really consider here is wait until Wall Street bets, wait until that community finds
Starting point is 00:20:58 out about Bitcoin. I mean, there's also another huge potential here of people saying, well, we're going to invest where things actually matter, where they actually make an impact. And this is a sign that a lot of people on the left and right are seeing as this huge merger point of people finally coming together, putting their political differences aside and saying, you know what? Everything's rigged. Let's play the market just like they play it. You know, I hear what you're saying. But you know what I think is more likely to happen is that the hedge funds are going to panic and find Bitcoin because they're, they're, these shorts are being attacked. All right. So I'll try to explain it. I may be getting it wrong because I'm not a stock
Starting point is 00:21:31 person. So you guys can super chat and then we'll, we'll get to that. But the general idea, my understanding of a short is that I'll put it this way. Like Ian, let me borrow that share real quick. I'll pay you for it next week. I then sell it to Luke for 10 bucks. I'm hoping that in a week it's worth a dollar. So then I'm holding 10 bucks. Here's your dollar for the stock you lent me, right? I'll pay you back for it now. But what happens when I sell it for 10 bucks to Luke? And then a week later, it's with a hundred bucks. And then, you know, Ian comes to me and says, all right, a hundred bucks is due, but I only have $10. I don't got the stock anymore. So what they're doing is by, by everyone buying into these stocks, the value skyrockets. And then the crazy thing is these hedge funds who short the stock, there's no bottom. It's a near infinite potential loss. If the GameStop stock goes to $5,000, which I'm not
Starting point is 00:22:18 saying it will, then for every share that they sold at six bucks, they owe that five grand and they only got six bucks. So they're looking at, what do you say, look like $14 billion lost. Just on, according to S3 partners, just in GameStop alone. I am not offering any advice, advocating for and encouraging anything, but I will tell you my opinion. Oh man, I love it. I love it so much. I got mixed feelings because it's dangerous for people to coordinate and game the
Starting point is 00:22:49 stock market. Well, that's what goes on every day. That's what they do. That's the name of the job. Who was it? Loeffler and Purdue? Were they the ones? No, they were the ones. They moved these stocks around. Loeffler. They moved these stocks around just before COVID or whatever, and they got called out for it, and they said it was totally legit, and we weren't the ones who did it.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Sure. Wealthy individuals with connections with access always know the right moves to make. It's just convenient, isn't it? But also let's just think about the really wealthy people and the connected people, the globalists, and I'll get fried for using that word. Maybe I don't know. But the globalists, when they're shutting down the economy, sending everyone home, put masks on, you can't work, they see the stock market crash,
Starting point is 00:23:36 and the globalists have all the money to invest in the stock market as it crashes, and they've benefited, and everybody knows it. If you've got a crashes and they've benefited and everybody knows that if you've got a brain and you've been following the rich made a ton of money during covid i'm embarrassed and and i'm not i'm not super rich but i'm embarrassed by how much money i've made during covid by buying devalued stock and then sitting back for the last six months and watching it grow. It's embarrassing how much money I've made sitting on my rear end at home. It is a transfer of wealth from the working class to the rich. And when I hear about millions of regular people saying, I got a stimulus check, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:24:20 You know what that is? We had a bunch of people storm the Capitol. That was dumb. They accomplished nothing. They're going to charge people with sedition. Nothing's accomplished from it. Now the feds are like, we want more security powers. Nothing gets accomplished.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I'll tell you what really scares them. When you go after their pocketbook, when the regular working people figured out a way to stick it to the man, and so they panicked so hard. It's hate speech. It's our only solution. They're bigots. Economics is our only solution. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Again, no, seriously, we can't count on the ballot anymore. We can't vote them out. But if we can make them pay an economic price for the exploitation of the working class, then you have a shot. I'm loving the left and the right together on this one. I'm seeing like left is you got Kyle Kalinsky. You got Vosh. They're all like, this is fantastic. You got right-wing individuals cheering for it. I'm sitting back like, yes, unity. I mean, this is why we've been saying voting with your dollar is extremely important. And when we look back at previous movements like Occupy Wall Street,
Starting point is 00:25:18 we can make fun of them. We could ridicule them. But one of the major success stories was them disinvesting from major big banks and investing in smaller community-based banks. And that's one of the success stories that I think shook a lot of people from the core. And I think a lot of people were shook, especially from the reaction from the mainstream media, especially from the reaction of big tech, and also from the response that we got from the White House today as Biden's press secretary was asked about this. And her only response was, do you know we have a female Treasury secretary? Literally, that was her response.
Starting point is 00:25:51 And the female Treasury secretary, by the way, Janet Yellen, former head of the Federal Reserve, who also gave speeches to Wall Street to the tune of millions of dollars. She enriched herself for giving speeches to Wall Street and also was a part of the same institution that bailed out all these big wall street banks and firms during the covid scandal we have to understand there was a huge transfer of wealth that no one wants to talk about where the federal reserve printed a crap ton of money and literally gave it to all these speculators
Starting point is 00:26:21 gave it to wall street so their losses were literally privatized. Their profits, whenever they make money, that, of course, is pure capitalism. But when they lose money, the government steps in. Now they have a potential of losing more money because of independent small actions of Redditors, and now they're freaking out talking about, look, but we have a female. Look how diverse we are. Are you kidding me? You know what's funny about this is that what we're watching right now are these billionaires having their wealth redistributed among this community of three million people.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And I'm like, that sounds awfully like what these socialists have been calling for for some time. But everyone's cool with it because it wasn't done through government. It was done through the market. And so everyone – so the left is basically like, well, it wasn't government, but but you did redistribute wealth and then the people on the right are like these monopolistic oligarchs are getting what's coming to them and it's through the market everybody's happy we got to be careful in the coming years because i think this is going to continue this like coordinated stock buys and sells and stuff be careful about buying stock on margin this is what happened during the great depression you can't give advice okay but during the great depression what happened
Starting point is 00:27:24 was people the the economy was booming, and everyone was like, oh, you can buy stocks to make money? Well, that's awesome. I'll take out a loan to buy stocks and assume that the stock's going to go up. And it kept happening, and people kept taking out more loans and more loans. And then one day, a big sell happened, and they called a margin call, which is the stock's down, so you're going to have to pay for the loss with your loan. And people are like, I don't have that money.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I took a loan out to buy the stock in the first place. Now it's worth less. I owe money. And then it would dip more. And the people that sold immediately got out. But a lot of regular working class people lost their wealth that way. Listen, must stress, you got to get your own financial advisors
Starting point is 00:28:02 because we are just a bunch of morons who know very little. Use history as a lesson, as a book, as a history book. Yeah. Not financial advice, but me personally, I don't invest any money that I'm not afraid of losing. Whether it's cryptocurrency, silver, gold, bullets, even stonks. Personally, I'm not going to spend it if I can't afford to lose it. That's me personally, not telling you what to do, not financial advice. We have to stress this enough because, again, I think all of us are involved in the stock market in one way or another. And we have to disclose this.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And there's a bunch of weird particular rules surrounding this particular issue. Like Jason, I got in during COVID to the stock market. I love the saying that the market will remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. So these people who are placing these bets or buying on margin, when those calls come in and you got to pay up, you might be like, that makes no sense. Why is GameStop at 350 bucks? It's a failing retail market. Doesn't matter. The market speaks. And so what we're seeing from this, in my opinion, we got Joe Biden cranking out executive orders like nobody's business, like history, right? I just kind of 37 presidential, but it's their presidential actions.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I don't know if they're all executive order because they could be memorandums. But either way, it is it is trying to establish, in effect, changing the rules, changing the law. This, in my opinion, is a sign of decay of the system. The legislation is not working anymore. Joe Biden's commented he's just rubber stamping whatever they want. Then you also have people showing how broken the market is. For a year when our economy was in shambles, people were making billions off speculating. You got people, their stock value skyrocketing. And I understand it's not liquid cash, right? They're getting net worth and net value. But traders were selling and were making money. They were getting liquid cash out of the system while everyone wasn't.
Starting point is 00:29:47 People weren't working. Then we saw the government print all this money, trillions of dollars, and they're going to do it again. The system is in decay. This, to me, is a sign of major instability. I'm not entirely confident about what comes next. You know, we've talked about civil conflict, you know, whatever you want to call it. What happened?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Man, I got to tell you, when we've talked about like We you know whatever you want to call it what happened man i gotta tell you when we've talked about like weimar germany and the mass printing of money and people shoveling money into the gutter and stuff we are looking at this crazy economic instability what happens when the system shuts down when they try everything in their power to stop the people from rising up so what do they do we're halting trading We're circuit breaking the stock. You can't trade anymore. That didn't work? Well, then ban them for hate speech. People are going to be like, that's BS, dude.
Starting point is 00:30:31 You keep changing the rules and moving the goalposts. Every time we figure out a way to stick it to the man, to find a way to finally get the wealth out of the hands of the 1%, they change the rules again. And when the rule changes don't work, they scream hate speech. Eventually, people are going to say the system is so broken, there's no point playing anymore. And then it falls down. But again, a bigger point to add here, no matter who made money today, we also have to realize a big fact here that tens of millions of people woke up to how the game is rigged.
Starting point is 00:31:00 We had a very— What woke them up? Yeah. No, what woke them up? CNN, CNBC. Trump. Trump. Trump.
Starting point is 00:31:07 We can make another argument about that. But again, today's a very special day because it is the rare occurrence where wealth finally transferred from Wall Street to Middle Street. Usually it goes from Middle Street to Wall Street. Main Street. No, Main Street. Usually it goes from Wall Street to Main Street. Today it went from Wall Street to Main Street. Usually it went from, you know, Wall Street to Main Street.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Usually it goes Main Street to Wall Street. You know what I'm saying. They use these tricks. You know what really made me angry, man? I'm really angry. When Bitcoin was reaching like 38, 39K, I saw these articles pop up. Investors could lose everything in Bitcoin. Oh, I saw one of those.
Starting point is 00:31:38 These people took out loans and they're going to lose everything. And I'm like, dude, I knew what the game was. They wanted you to get scared. They wanted you to sell so they could buy it cheap. When it was at like 38, 39, you had people who finally, finally poor people see cryptocurrency and they're like, I'm going to buy some of this. It's going up. There's real value here.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Well, the fat cats, the big firms, the big funds, they're like, how can we get more of this? But I don't want to spend that much. Can we get our cronies in media to freak the people out and make them think they'll lose it all so they sell and then we buy at a premium? And it works. They do it over and over and over again. And now they're reaping the reward of their own broken system. It's crazy because you're not allowed to go out and say like, you can't go out and say, hey, sell your Bitcoin. But an article can be written about how dangerous it is.
Starting point is 00:32:21 So CNBC and their friends, they can write an article saying, it's really bad to buy this. Don't do it. Meanwhile, the billionaires are laughing all the way to the bank and the working class people are the ones getting screwed over. Tim, you made your point wonderfully. I just want to repackage
Starting point is 00:32:36 and restate your point to me, my interpretation of your point. I think America tried to speak through politics, through the ballot. Hey, we don't like politicians, so we're going to elect a reality TV star. Yeah. Then now that they've totally rejected that, they've turned to, okay, we're going to take money from you to try to express our dissatisfaction. So it goes from the ballot to the dollar, and the only option left is the gun.
Starting point is 00:33:05 What was that saying about the boxes? Yeah. The ballot box and the cartridge box or whatever, something like that? The bullet box, yeah. I'm scared of that. I'm scared of the idea that if people are told that you're not even allowed to play the game, like the rich people get special privileges. You know what I saw in Barron's magazine? They said we need a 30-day stop on GameStop stocks because these poor, unsophisticated investors are going to be hurt by this.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Look, some dude takes his check. He's got $600. He pays his rent. He's got a couple hundred bucks left. You know what his worst case scenario is? When this person puts $200 into some stock and it crumbles, he lost $200. I'm sure he or she will be upset about it.
Starting point is 00:33:47 They will be upset about it. But with these hedge funds, these hedge funds are going to lose billions. So no, they're not concerned about the poor, unsophisticated investor who might lose a couple hundred bucks. They've never cared about these people. They're worried about their buddies and their hedge funds, which are going to lose billions. And that's it. System crumbles.
Starting point is 00:34:04 You know, Tim, without government, who's going to make sure that the stocks don't rise too quickly? Right? And that's exactly what's happening here. And it's so absurd because we're having people invest in a company, invest in the stock market, something that a government should see and say, yeah, that's great. People are investing and having trust in our big financial institutions that are usually rigged against them. But because they're so rigged, because they're so manipulated, people are using those same tricks and they're having a mirror to this corrupt, nasty little witch that is the financial system. And it's finally seeing itself in its own reflection. And it's saying, oh, my goodness, I am ugly. I created these rules and these rules are slapping
Starting point is 00:34:43 me upside the head and I'm becoming a lot uglier as the time goes on. Let's talk about this Trumpism article. This is amazing article. From CNN, how Trumpism explains the GameStop stock surge. Spoiler alert, it doesn't. But let's read anyway from Chris Saliza. He says at the core of Donald Trump's angry populist appeal was and is this sentiment, quote, the elites think they know better than you. They think they can tell you how to live and what to believe. But guess what? We, the people, are smarter than the elites. Let me stop you right there, Chris. The elites do think that. And we, the people, as a decentralized, distributed computing network, are smarter than you. It's why communism doesn't
Starting point is 00:35:26 work, because a committee can't figure out how to distribute resources better than a decentralized network of individuals who are seeking the things they need and want. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not a laissez-faire capitalist. I think there are still problems there. But yeah, we see it in computing. A distributed network is better than a single point of failure. I digress. He says Trump elucidated this argument in its purest form at a rally in North Dakota in 2018 when he went on his rift, quote, I meet these people. They call them the elite. These people, I look at them. I say that's elite. We got more money. We got more brains. We got better houses, apartments. We got nicer boats. We're smarter than they are.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And they and they say they're elite. We're the elite. You're the elite. We're the elite. So I said the other day, let's keep calling these people and let's face it. They've been stone cold losers, the elite, the elite. So let them keep calling themselves the elite. But we're going to call ourselves. And remember, you are indeed you work harder, but you are indeed smarter than them. Let's call ourselves from now on the super elite. We're the super elite. Chris says what made Trump's argument so potent, politically speaking, is that he wasn't just calling out the elites.
Starting point is 00:36:33 He was saying that the average Joes needed to rise up and actually show them how wrong they were, that voting for him, voting him for him was the best way to express their anger and frustration with the condescension of the alleged betters. Donald Trump offered himself up as a collective middle finger to the elites, and he won, all of which brings me to the current seemingly inexplicable stock surge of GameStop, the video game seller that has made its money over the years thanks to its location in malls. Now, from here, we get kind of the point. I got to tell you, for the most part, he's bringing up the correct point in kind of the wrong way. It's not Trumpism.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Trump did not create this. Trump is a symptom of this. Guess what? The elites have been saying we're smarter than you. They have been using revolving door politics where the people from the biggest corporations get the jobs in government overseeing the same company they just worked for as CEO or starting wars and selling the bombs from government back to their friends, those companies. We know what they do and we know the games they play. We know the bailouts they get. When they fail, they say, oh, well,
Starting point is 00:37:32 we have to save them. They're too big. But when mom and pop shops fail, they say, sorry, too bad. Why don't you apply for unemployment? Maybe six months will kick you a check. That doesn't isn't enough to buy a loaf of bread. More importantly, it's even talk about schools. I'm not a fan of college, but they are they are telling these people your only choice is to go to college, racking up massive debt for young people who find no way out. The system is crumbling. The elites have been milking it and extracting it forever. And it's gotten to the point where people are saying enough.
Starting point is 00:37:58 And now the best part is the left and the right are both laughing as this happens. But to claim it's Trumpism. No, you see, Trump was the imperfect avatar for people who felt this anger. But there are people who couldn't agree with his policies. As a man, he couldn't represent this entity well enough. With Trump gone, that entity is now in its purest form. The rage of the people staring at the elites who have been stripping out their value and kicking them down and mocking them is now just been unleashed and this is what we get like obi
Starting point is 00:38:29 wong kenobi man yes struck him down now he's now he's a being of light chris the author of this article actually tweeted it and the number one response right now is a picture of ralph with a flute in his nose with a thousand five hundred likes uh now. And I'm reading some of the replies. And a lot of people are just like, what are you talking about? And you're right. He had a hard time explaining what was happening. So he just did the laziest thing he could and said, it's just all because of this one guy. Trumpism. I want to share this story. I'm not endorsing what I'm about to share the story, but I live in middle America. I live in Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I live in Nashville. And the problem with a lot of the media, they live in New York or LA. They're totally disconnected from real people. I live in Nashville, right downtown. It's a very popular bar across the street from me. I went and watched Sunday football.
Starting point is 00:39:21 There was a young man in the bar wearing a hat. And he was with a big group of people. And he walked by to go to the bathroom. I said, what's on your hat? And it said, make politicians afraid again. And that's the sentiment you have in the South, in Tennessee. Nashville is a relatively liberal city. It's had a liberal mayor, a democratic mayor since
Starting point is 00:39:48 the 1960s or 70s. But that guy's sentiment on his hat that he's wearing out in a crowded bar, everybody watching football, no one bats an eye at thinking like that. And so you're right. Again, Trump, imperfect
Starting point is 00:40:04 avatar, but if we let people express their So you're right. Again, Trump, imperfect avatar. But if we let people express their anger through the ballot, it's a lot better than these other methods that they're going to go to. And if we don't restore some integrity in our election process, we're just you know, we're headed for civil conflict. Well, I got this quote. This is the four boxes of liberty, which we briefly mentioned. They say Larry McDonald, a politician from Georgia and former president of the John Birch Society, has also been quoted omitting the caution to use bullets as the last resort. Quote, We have four boxes with which to defend our freedom. The soapbox, the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box.
Starting point is 00:40:42 The term is used in newspaper articles and has been used in a petition to the supreme court of california four boxes and derivatives have been used the name of various websites that espouse patriotism and the right to bear arms i think there's a better quote um that's probably safer to use those that make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable and that was we talked about kennedy who said that and so it's similar when people soapbox and they stand up and say this must happen and then big tech bashes them over the head and knocks them to the dirt well then they go to the ballot box they cast their votes then we saw trump bring people to the jury box sort of they went to the courts they tried they tried and then what we saw was people storm the capitol so it's a low grade version and it's
Starting point is 00:41:24 scary because we don't want conflict. We want people to like figure out a path forward. But I tell you right now, what we're seeing with this GameStop Wall Street stuff is populist anger. You know, it's funny is there are a lot of establishment Democrat types who are scared of the word populist.
Starting point is 00:41:39 They don't know what it means. You're either a populist or you're an elitist. I understand it's not absolute, but the general idea is for, of, and by the people or for the establishment elites, the cronies, the people with the money, the people born in the wealth. The way I look at populism is popular ideas for the population, ideas that the people want and need. So when you have the left and the right completely disagreeing on how to implement the policies to make things better, but completely agreeing the establishment is crooked and corrupt and cheering this on, well, then we are seeing some kind of raw unified force.
Starting point is 00:42:14 It's not going to be it's not going to be politically unified because that's that, you know, the politics, the political parties and the ideologies are more of effigies or avatars of this this ideology or anger. No, what we're seeing now is pure rage. Like when you see people go out in the street and riot, pure rage. There's nothing. There's no rhyme or reason. What we're seeing now with Wall Street bets is just digital.
Starting point is 00:42:35 It's online. It's more strategic. But a lot of people are throwing their money behind this, not expecting to get rich. Tim, do you think, because my concern as a black person is I'm wondering, it's like when I'll have a conversation with my mother about all of this, and she's so into democratic politics, she's such a Baraka. I'm not even sure she fully understands what's going on in this country as it relates to working class versus the elite. My mother was a 30-year factory worker.
Starting point is 00:43:09 She is as working class as it comes. But she's so into Democratic politics that I think she thinks she's an elite because of the life that I provide her, probably. But I think she thinks she's an elite. And everything to her, or I don't want to speak for, but for a lot of black people, everything comes down to race. Trump supporters, they're racist.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So it doesn't matter that they stormed the Capitol and confronted white politicians. That was racism. That was, it's the divide and conquer. Now, first I'll, I'll say it again.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Cause I think they accomplished nothing by doing this to me, the Capitol, but divide and conquer, man. When we had occupy wall street, Luke and I'll say it again, because I think they accomplished nothing by doing this. I mean, the Capitol. But divide and conquer, man. When we had Occupy Wall Street, Luke and I met at Occupy Wall Street. And we're like on mere images. We both took the political compass test. I'm center left, Luke center right. But we met at the same place.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Because Occupy Wall Street attracted libertarian types, right? And caps, anarcho-communist leftists. But something disrupted all that identity politics that came in and dominated the discussion. And it pushed out anybody else who might actually align. And so that that that was divide and conquer. Yeah, I mean, that's why a few weeks ago, we were talking about this. And I'm like, there's going to be a huge anti establishment swell that's going to come after people realize about how Joe Biden is invested in the special interests that don't serve them, that screw the American people.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I think we're seeing the first steps of this, and I think we still have a lot more to go, a lot more to do, and I think this is going to become more and more prevalent as we're going to see this kind of new emergence of a new kind of Occupy Wall Street populist movement that's going to be against the establishment. We're seeing it here. I mean, I was telling you it's going to happen a few weeks ago. I think we're at the beginning of it. It might be the stock thing. It might be another thing. But I think we're headed towards a lot of people being extremely discontent with the current system, realizing it, organizing and moving forward. I mean, we're seeing almost close to civil wars breaking out in places like Holland right
Starting point is 00:45:08 now over, of course, the lockdown issues. And that's only just one issue out of many issues that people are getting screwed over with. Look at Vladimir Putin saying in Davos, we're in an era that was just like pre-World War II. And so we're dangerously close to something truly traumatic and devastating in this planet. We talked about this before, the mass printing of money. Do you know that somewhere around like 60 to 66% of all US dollars were printed in the past like 10 months around that? Never happened before.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And so you have to imagine there's going to be some rapid and dramatic instability or mass divide between the rich and the poor getting worse. Economic inequality leads to serious economic instability. Angry poor people come up, come out, show up with pitchforks when they realize there's no path forward for them. And that if you're going to, you know, you look at some of these places where there's oligarchy. San Francisco is essentially a big tech oligarchy. You got, there's so much human waste littering the streets of San Francisco. You heard about, you know about this story? San Francisco has their own poop department. It's funny, right? Ha ha, we laugh. No, it's serious. You know, you can say that Chicago's got a Chicago fire department, they got the Chicago PD,
Starting point is 00:46:12 and then you can say they got animal control, whatever public services. San Francisco has a poop department. They deploy people to clean human waste off the streets, but they have some of the wealthiest individuals on the planet living in the bay area and working in these areas how can that be the the divide is massive people start to realize that the wealthy elites are rigging the game to make sure they never lose and you never win and then people are going to lose it yeah they're going to get mad now this because i'm basically going to reiterate a point we made earlier but now looking at how people are like oh we can play this wall street game too right nope they'll change the rules on you yep glenn greenwald had a very uh you know very very important tweet today he said quote
Starting point is 00:46:55 pitch perfect expression of defining neoliberal mentality here we have an extraordinary political and cultural conflict involving intergenerational wealth vast disparities of power and a deeply corrupt financial system and this is all the biden white house has to say about it and it's the white house press secretary responding saying that they have a first female treasury secretary so so that that larger and her name is angela davis yeah former federal reserve chairman janet yellen but uh you know you know we need it's we need the And her name is Angela Davis. Former Federal Reserve Chairman Janet Yellen. But, you know. You know what we need?
Starting point is 00:47:29 We need the workers of the world to unite. I'm kidding. Short squeeze these companies. No, it is funny. I made that joke the other day, but I'll make it again. I just love seeing left and right come together. Because the identity politics divide was what helped destroy the unity around Occ wall street it became a very leftist thing when it was actually a very anti-establishment thing it was like the big banks were getting bailed out off our backs and we were
Starting point is 00:47:56 suffering because of it and everybody was mad about it and then all of a sudden some kids showed up and they were like but you're white and then all of a sudden the conservative types who were down were like this is creepy and weird and left i remember talking to some 60 year old couple they were conservatives and they were down there and that american flag and they were like we don't like what they're doing to this country and they're you know extracting our wealth and all the stuff but within a couple weeks it was just far left identity politics progressive stack whiteness and you-heteronormativity and things like that. So is today perhaps a moment of optimism?
Starting point is 00:48:30 Oh, yeah. Not for the hedge funds. For them, it's the apocalypse. For us, because again, I am anti-elite. That is probably our connection is I can't stand elites. And that's despite, and a lot of people say, well, man,
Starting point is 00:48:46 you make too much money to hate elites. No, I don't. If I had made all the money in the world, I would still hate elites. There's a big difference between, you know, some,
Starting point is 00:48:54 somebody who comes up and makes money and become successful and has lived through it. And the people who are born into massive billion dollar wealth, I'm talking like the true global elite class. And when you guys say like globalist or elitist or anything are you talking about people i assume you're talking about people with offshore bank accounts or um i'm talking about the media who panders to the elite everybody on basically mainstream media the cable news networks they all pander they're their spokespersons spokespersons they're their pr. That's what news is today.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And then politicians pander to elites, and then the elites who have all the money. Like global bankers that don't adhere to any government. Phil Knight, Nike. I'll tell you what, Elon Musk is the elite of the elite. He's the richest guy on the planet, isn't he? No.
Starting point is 00:49:41 There's got to be like Saudi kings and stuff. Putin. I think Putin is. Yeah, yeah. Secretly. On the books, Elon is. no well he can't be there's got to be like saudi kings oh well putin i think putin is yeah yeah secretly okay on the books elon is but he's more wealthy than basel yeah now yeah yeah it just happened recently i i don't i like elon musk i love him he's tweeting this out he's promoting it because he listen i'm not my issue isn't necessarily with the you know and probably we should clarify this too the ultra wealthy i mean if you make cool stuff if you're building spaceships and you're making cool cars and you're doing things that people like and you're inspiring people I don't care if you're rich I like that you're rich I'm happy yeah if you invent the light bulb and you make
Starting point is 00:50:15 people's lives better please like let you be wealthy you know like it's awesome but when you have these politicians who make money off insider knowledge with the government they rig the game they the regulators rig the game and they use the media to trick you. These people are the corruption in our society that are stealing from us. I'm not saying every politician or every trader or every fund. I'm saying there are bad ones. Majority of them. If you remember last year, almost exactly this time, there was an entire scandal because there was Senate hearings where they talked about COVID and COVID coming to the United States.
Starting point is 00:50:46 What did senators, politicians do with that advanced knowledge that was classified, not available to everyone? Well, hold on, hold on. You're talking about Loeffler and I think, was it Purdue? Was it them? I think it was them. There was, yeah. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:50:58 You want to do this? Just specifically, they said, oh, no, no, no, that wasn't us because we don't have control of these things. But I don't care. When you have Nancy Pelosi buying Tesla stock a month ago and then Joe Biden announces he's going to switch the entire federal fleet to electric cars, guess who makes millions and millions of dollars? Is it a coincidence that she did this right before Biden was about to come in and do this?
Starting point is 00:51:18 Maybe. I mean, Tesla was a good bet. So maybe it was a coincidence. But there's a big problem when you have your politicians are overwhelmingly millionaires and extremely wealthy what's like half of congress they're all millionaires and they don't get paid that money with with a salary so so where do they get all of that money that's the big question that people need to start asking right now coca-cola other companies like that they get money they get bribes well no i'm sorry they're not called
Starting point is 00:51:43 bribes they're called um lobby lobby yeah sorry. They're not called bribes. They're called lobbying. Lobbying. Yeah, lobbying. Super PAC money being funneled in, which you can then – no, what they do is the nonprofits. That's the big trick. Someone will say, look, we can't pay you the money. It's illegal. But how about you join the board of our charity and we'll put $50 million in it and then you can use that money as an executive or chairman of this company to do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:52:04 There's ways to give people resources and money through loopholes and it's the game they play so when you see people like um i think it was biden the biden family had like some kind of cancer charity paid a bunch of salaries ran out of money and then just shuttered i could be wrong about that so that's probably wrong but something like that you see a lot of stories where all of a sudden some super rich person or some politician, the Clinton Foundation, I mean, yeah. How much money were they bringing in from who while Hillary was Secretary of State? That was going on, right?
Starting point is 00:52:33 Even with Mr. Epstein involved in that entire mess. But that doesn't get really investigated or looked into. He was bragging about how he started the Clinton Global Initiative. I got kicked out from their meetings and banned for four years when they were still holding committee meetings because I made sure to show up and to ask some serious questions. They put me on a do not enter list. But without saying too many of the key words here, there's a lot of bad people tied into a lot of lobbying efforts that were directly tied into the Clinton Global Initiative. We got some breaking news. Wall Street Bets has
Starting point is 00:53:04 returned. Everyone actually returned a few minutes ago to read it. Yeah, but I pulled up this message. Stay calm. A quick explanation about why the sub is now private. So this is a message from when they were private. Now that they are public, we can read this. And here's why they went down. This is from a you.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Geo Manis says, Hello, approved friends. The situation here is delegate. Obviously, with the deletion of our discord due to TOS violations, the moderators here are dealing with an existential threat to our community. While in the past, automated moderation using bots has been an effect has been effective for dealing with human users violating the Wall Street bet sub TOS. I think I think a has a has been reached where the quantity and quality of posts primarily by bot accounts has likely overwhelmed our moderator resource.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Please remember that moderators on Reddit are unpaid volunteers. They are likely working on a way to, one, prevent bots from creating ridiculous quantities of noise. The community up and down voting system doesn't work when there are endless bots able to down vote posts by non-bot accounts. Similarly, even with eliminating accounts, to those registered in the past 45 days, people have been sitting on thousands, potentially millions of accounts that were registered in the past purely in case there was a need to obfuscate legitimate content
Starting point is 00:54:14 and concerns. This has been a tactic used by nation states for other websites such as Facebook, Twitter, and more. I don't see why powerful groups wouldn't employ this tactic as well. They say, two, refresh the rules surrounding Wall Street bets etiquette. And three, work with Reddit to identify how to safely operate and manage this subreddit. So remain calm, trust in our moderators, try not to spout any memes or offensive material, and check back later. They will find a solution. My friends, in 2015, Reddit was dominated by the Donald. It was just massive.
Starting point is 00:54:44 You go to the front. Are you familiar with Reddit, right, Jason? dominated by the Donald. It was just massive. You go to the front. Are you familiar with Reddit, right, Jason? No, not really. I mean, I'm. You know, you know what it is. Like, it's a social media website. Yeah. People post links, and then you can give an upvote or a downvote.
Starting point is 00:54:53 And the more upvotes it gets, the higher invisibility it appears. And then eventually it goes to the front page. The Donald was always dominating all. Like, r slash all. Like, it's every subreddit, the Donald. Donald Trump memes, jokes, fun, silliness. They mean Donald Trump into office. That was the Internet discovering their hive mind powers with helping Donald Trump win. Now, the the fat cat elites were caught off guard.
Starting point is 00:55:16 You see, with Donald Trump, they got the Donald subreddit got first deranked. They were accused of all this craziness and then they were banned from the front page. They became a restricted or quarantined subreddit where you had to like confirm your email and then bypass some filter to actually get to the forum to see the memes in the post about Trump. No longer would these pro-Trump memes appear on Reddit unless you sought it out. One day, the Donald decided we're at risk of being banned. So we're going to create our own clone called the Donald dot win a separate website that functions the same. They left this, the community started existing on its own, totally independently. And then four
Starting point is 00:55:56 months later, even though the moderators had basically shut down the Reddit version of it, the admins for Reddit banned them and claimed they were posting hate speech or some other nonsense, which is weird because they had been operating entirely in a different website. So why did they get banned on Reddit? It seemed coordinated on purpose. Now that Donald has become patriots.win because Donald Trump is no longer president. But this was a sign that things were changing. People realize big companies, fat, you know, these fat cat elites, these establishment elites realized the power of Reddit and its influence, how it helped
Starting point is 00:56:29 Trump win. Now, when you go to Reddit and you go to r slash all, which is just a directory for every post in their rankings, you'll see like three or four pages of Bernie Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez, and all far left. That was the political people realizing we need to control the ballot box or effectively the soapbox. Those who would speak and speak up can't speak up for Trump, ban them, promote far left. And they did. And so you'll often see in the politics tab in the news tab, it's all far left stuff. But what they didn't count on is that many of these people with this anger towards the
Starting point is 00:57:02 elite and establishment were still functioning functioning but focused on the finances. And much like they went after Donald Trump, they took him a while to realize that Donald was providing Trump this resource, this soapbox. Now Wall Street bets is there and it's embodied that anger. Trump is out. It's pure rage at this point. And now they're going after something outside of politics, finances. I think it's only a matter of time before Reddit panics
Starting point is 00:57:26 and then does the same thing, prevents this community from functioning, bans them outright, and claims hate speech. What concerns me is when someone has a forum and then one of their enemies decides to make an account and starts saying nasty stuff. Exactly. False flag. Yeah, and then Reddit will be like,
Starting point is 00:57:43 well, there's hate speech, The whole thing's getting the ax. That's what happened with the Donald. You see, if I were to tell you that the Donald was posting violent threats against police, would you believe me that Trump supporters were posting violent threats against police? That's what they claimed they were doing. They claimed that there were people in the Donald subreddit threatening cops. And when I saw that, I laughed. You got to be kidding me.
Starting point is 00:58:05 The people waving the cop flags, they're the ones threatening. You go to the Antifa subreddits, the anarchist subreddits, all they do is threaten cops. Reddit said, well, you know, it's threatening people. And I was like, BS.
Starting point is 00:58:17 You know what it probably was? Far leftists or establishment Democrat types with powerful interests could very easily just go to the Donald, create an account, and then post something nasty. And that's it. And then they submit themselves. They make the post, log into a different account, and submit it to Reddit and say, hey, look,
Starting point is 00:58:32 hate speech. Hey, look, a threat. Yep. And it happens a lot. And Elon Musk, by the way, just tweeted, quote, even Discord has gone crow poor. So crow poor, dot, dot, dot, dot. And of course, he's responding to Discord taking down Wall Street bets because of alleged hate speech. What's crow poor dot dot dot dot and and of course he's responding to discord taking down wall street bets because of alleged hate speech what's crow which is um thank you cr uh c o r p o that's what you are corpo corpo yeah like corporate yeah yeah dot dot dot so you can't you can't let the people
Starting point is 00:58:59 rise up man you can't let that the hive gain power so they stopped donald trump donald trump was memed into existence, man. I mean, I know he exists, but I mean like the presidency. I watched it happen as a minds admin. It was slow and insidious. The memes were just funny. The jokes and everyone shared it and it worked and it worked. The Pepe the Frog.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Wall Street bets. Faced with Trump's hair. Yeah. This may not be connected, but I just want to throw it out there. Just to ask the question. Does the Drudge Reports pivot connect to any of this at all i don't know that's weird though right the drudge used to be like right wing and now they're not yeah well they turned they they were very pro-trump they turned against trump so did uh rupert murdoch and all of his institutions uh especially the daily mail especially a lot of people accuse fox news of doing this obviously
Starting point is 00:59:44 not sean hannity and tucker carlson but the other kind of reporting that happened there but there was one definitive switch where any kind of support in the institutions went away dramatically and some people said that was because of personal arguments that donald trump had with uh you know rupert murdoch so that's also a possibility here that we have to understand so we got a shot uh so i gotta tell you man i'll say the unity check this out this is on wall street bets they say we got a shout out bros hashtag gme aoc tweets gotta admit it's really something to see wall streeters with a long history of treating our economy as a casino complain about a message board of posters also treating the market as a casino. I love it.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Props AOC. Let's bring on this unity. I will absolutely stand side by side with all of the leftists and right wing, whoever, if we're talking about the establishment elites and their manipulative games to steal our money. I'll take it. I'll take the win.
Starting point is 01:00:40 We can argue the politics and policy stuff after the fact, but this is what they were most afraid of. The left and the right realizing that as working class people, as the non-elite, as the non-establishment, they got more in common. Like Mitch McConnell and Nancy Pelosi are basically part of the same political party as far as I'm concerned. There's no question about it. I still think this identity politics thing is really strong and maybe that's just me as a black person because i know the influence of black lives matter and that will potentially stand in the way of people awakening from my community to like hey no no because that that's all i've been trying to
Starting point is 01:01:17 promote probably my entire career is like hey man working people, you have far more in common than you have in contradiction or in conflict with each other. If you can just get past the race thing, you'll see you guys are natural ally. We're natural allies, but they've used this race thing so effectively. you know the whole democratic platform seems to be you know pull that lever for white people it's pull that lever and no one can call you racist and for black people pull that lever and no one can call you a coon or an uncle tom and it's worked it blows my mind you know that's their platform you know really blew my mind is when the rnc had uh that a few speakers come up who are black yeah and then the left started calling them tokens yes and i'm like you complain they're not diverse enough so
Starting point is 01:02:10 they say okay and they put forth some black speakers and then you say they're tokenizing them i'm like there's no winning is there no matter what they do they're racist i don't even like the word black and white because like we're not me and you aren't white or black you're you have like a auburn colored skin. I have like a pinkish skin. So these ancient words of like diversion, they're like, look at that person that's black. It's like they were never black to begin with. I understand pigmentation is different.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Where are you guys at on religion? I'm a Christian. I was raised a Christian. I believe in principles from the Bible. I've written and talked about. I don't want to be defined as black. I want to be defined as a Christian, patriotic
Starting point is 01:02:53 American. That's what I want my identity to be. That's funny, but you're not allowed. You know what I mean? You can identify as basically anything you want, except for that. That's the bigoted. That's the wrong. You can identify as whatever. I think except for that jesus that's the bigoted that's the wrong you can identify as whatever i think jesus was tight i think that the church is like built a business around no question yeah no question but but i think so much of our identity is tied to politics now and to me i've never wanted to be judged on that and for for black people i don't understand to me racist slave
Starting point is 01:03:28 owners 400 years ago said your skin color is the most important characteristic you have and it limits your freedom and now here we are 400 years later and black people are saying my skin color is the most important characteristic I have, and it limits my freedom. Right, it's your Christianity in that Christ means anointed. So to be anointed by the Christian means the anointed one, and so they call Jesus the Christ because he was anointed by God. But we're all anointed by God.
Starting point is 01:04:00 This energy is flowing through our bodies, and we're able to create with it. You know, we can touch each other. I totally agree. Yeah, and that's what we should be focused on. by god this energy is flowing through our bodies and we're able to create with it you know these we can touch each other with yeah and that's what we should be focused on one of the things anyway well i think we're people you know what i mean and it's i remember growing up and rolling my eyes as a teenager when i would hear things like race is not relevant because we're all human beings we all bleed the same and i'm like i know i get it racism is bad now i'm older and they're saying the opposite the left is like no race is everything don lemon goes on tv and says he wants to know that everybody
Starting point is 01:04:29 sees him as a black man and that's you know and i'm like it's all bs and i wish i could say what i really think but he's lying because that's not what's most important to him i actually and i'm not trying to be his sexual identity trumps his racial identity and you like you in terms of what he talks about and what do you what he's most passionate about right right right is and again i've asked people all the time i and and this is a if you had a choice i asked friends of mine i said let's say that there was some deal where the government came down and said hey look you're either gonna have to choose being heterosexual or black which one are you gonna stick with hetero that's what i was thinking about that earlier actually so i i said i said so go ask don lemon that question and see what answer he gets he's it's going to be black and i'm like so why are you priority if you're
Starting point is 01:05:27 why are you prioritizing blackness when it's not your most important characteristic and again so if god came down and said what i'm christian i'm american and i'm heterosexual all that would come before black in terms of if i want to hold on to certain things, I want to hold on to being Christian. I feel incredibly lucky to be born in this country. So I want to be here in America. And then I tend to like women. So I want to hold on to being a heterosexual. I think when it comes to politics, you've got high-functioning individuals.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I'm not trying to be mean or disrespect anybody, but you've got people who are more logical, less emotional, and you've got people who are more emotional, less logical. And so somebody who's not particularly logical, they judge a book by its cover. It's an emotional response. They can look at you and see, hey, you look very different from me and what my family looks like. Then they can manipulate and exploit that. They can say, oh, you must be racist. So these are low-functioning people who are easily exploited by racial politics, whereas high-functioning people are like, I don't know, people, it's merit. It's hard work. It's what you choose to do. Some people are smarter. Some people are dumber. Some people
Starting point is 01:06:39 are stronger. Some people are taller. Some people are shorter. Everybody's different, you know, and we have to respect those differences. But there's there's bigger differences between like there's there's, you know, a white dude who's six foot seven and there's a white dude who's five foot three. And there's a bigger difference between them than like you and me. Race doesn't even play that big of a role. I've asked people all the time if they're even aware that there is a height bias in all of society. The taller you are, the more successful you tend to be yeah and you know it's it's there's height privilege that oh but they play that they call low-hanging fruit for a reason no the the the leftists have all of that like the the super critical race it's not
Starting point is 01:07:18 critical race it's the critical theory people they've got they've got like thin privilege they've got tall privilege they They got all of it. Hightest, I think, is the name for it. But again, you bring up a very important point. If the most important and the most interesting thing about you, if you think it's something superficial, you're not interesting. You're not important at all. You're divulging from the actual thing that makes you special.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And that's you as a unique human being. And you're either a very bad one or a very good one or in between. But you decide that. And it's you as a unique human being. And you're either a very bad one or a very good one or in between. But you decide that. And it's not superficial. It's based on your morals, your virtues, and your actions that people don't care about anymore because they care about only how you look, which is ridiculous and dumb to me. But height does have some advantages. If your legs are longer, you can run away from hungry lions faster. You can reach the fruit that's higher up on the tree easier. If your skin is dark, you can run away from hungry lions faster. You can reach the fruit that's higher up on the tree easier. If your skin is dark, you have some advantages.
Starting point is 01:08:09 If you're trying to hide at night, it's harder to see you if you have dark skin. Sun doesn't damage me the way that... Yeah, yeah. You can take more sun damage. I glow. Well, you don't get damaged. My skin almost glows at night from a little bit of ambient moonlight. So I'll jump out.
Starting point is 01:08:24 So there are inherent advantages to the way we look and our shapes and our sizes but that doesn't mean that we're better or or worse well look look it's pros and cons a tall person's not gonna be able to hide as effectively than a short person exactly but they could potentially run faster so it's really just you know the way i've always been you know uh growing up with my family who of course you know it's been mentioned a million times in my various shows, is mixed race. It's that everybody's dealt a hand of cards when they're born. And you might have a bad hand, but you can still win. You ever watch a poker game where a dude's got like 2-7 off suit and he still wins?
Starting point is 01:08:58 Yeah. Because he played it right. If the blinds are high, you got to go all in. Yeah. Well, it's about strategy. You may not have the best hand in the world, but if you play your cards right, you can get ahead. Or the other saying I like is we can't control the wind, but we can adjust our sails. So some people look in the mirror and they look at themselves and they think it's unfair.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I'm wrong. And that's on them, man. It's on you. You can succeed if you choose. We talk about like what would you call it? Familiarity bias, which seems to be a real thing like if you're surrounded by a bunch of people that look like you then other people that don't look like you are are out different and so there's this inherent like fear of the unknown that seems to be prevalent in in our consciousness for some reason so like i spent
Starting point is 01:09:39 time in south america and it was noticeable i stood out like the people had darker skin i looked like a four like a foreign person and they would all like look stood out like the people had darker skin. I looked like a four, like a foreign person. And they would all like, look at me like, Oh, that's different. And I noticed it firsthand then. And then you see the thing is people, the first thing they notice is what you look like. So we try very hard and we've succeeded very much. So in the past a hundred years to realize there's more to people than just what we see. That's why we say, don't judge a book by its cover. But now we have this new group of critical race theorists that are saying, no, no, we must judge the book by its cover. Not only that, they're burning books. So it's regressive. It's not progress. They're literally reactionaries who are trying to bring us back to the way things used to be. The left
Starting point is 01:10:18 likes to call the right reactionary because the phrase comes from the French Revolution when you had the reaction to the revolution. So those that wanted to maintain the status quo were called reactionary. My friends, what is the status quo in this country? How long have we had civil rights in this country? So do you want to tell people how old you are? I'm 53. So you seriously remember when things were substantially more racist in this country?
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yes. And my parents certainly reminded me. What was it like? Look, interracial dating used to be a huge deal when I grew up. A huge. If someone dated outside their race, all the kids talked about it, the parents talked about it, blah, blah. It was a big deal. If you lived in a neighborhood outside,
Starting point is 01:11:07 if a black person lived in a white, it was a big deal. None of that stuff. And first of all, the obstacles that I faced, I don't think were anything in comparison to my parents. I was raised with no excuses.
Starting point is 01:11:28 You've been put in position, and keep mind. And I was not put it. I was put in a great position because I got two supportive parents, but I grew up poor me in 1984, my senior year of high school, me and my dad lived in a 400 square foot, one bedroom apartment in the ghetto, but there were no excuses. There was no, my dad was a Booker T Washington, cast your bucket down, do for yourself. When I lived with him, my senior high school, he,
Starting point is 01:11:53 the IRS had taken everything from him. He hadn't done well with his taxes or whatever, but he was a small businessman in the inner city most of my life. And, but there were no excuses i tried to quit my college football team and i was on scholarship and both of my parents said good luck with the rest of your life if you're dumb enough to quit that free college education and good luck jason and so there's just no excuses and i really can't i look back at my child it
Starting point is 01:12:22 was awesome weren't you just talking about how you made a bunch of money in stocks yeah like you're kind of well off and your mom thinks she's an elite now she certainly lives like one but i mean i mean this i mean this as a sign of the utmost respect that you're talking about how you grew up you were in the high school in the ghetto in this tiny apartment and that sounds like you're doing really well man yeah no i've been doing well for a while but my high school was working class where i live with my dad was poor but anyway i had i have lived the american dream my parents divorced when i was young i've lived in the hood i've lived in working class suburbs per se and i have worked my way up the left my first
Starting point is 01:13:07 job out of college was five dollars an hour this is what this is the point i'm trying to get to just to go back to where you know where i was at i grew up hearing these stories from my from my family as well especially from my mom who experienced growing up in you know before the civil rights era she was a little she was a little kid before there was even Civil Rights Law, the 1967 Civil Rights Act, before Loving v. Virginia. So my mom's side of the family, like my mom's side of the family, literally was illegal. This was back when, before the Supreme Court ruled that interracial relationships were allowed. So I think about that, and I think about where we've progressed to, right? To a point where we're now saying, don't judge people based on their race. These things aren't important. We need to be human. And what do we get? The critical
Starting point is 01:13:49 race theorists have reacted to that racial revolution, the realization that we're human beings. They're reactionary. They want to bring us back to that old status quo of the past several thousand years where people immediately judged everyone based on their race. That is the old status quo we fought so hard to get past so that you could have somebody who's a black man who grew up working class and also in bad neighborhoods and became very successful that you aren't judged by the color of your skin, but by the content of your character. To me, that's the stories I grew up with from my family who told me how bad it was and how we won.
Starting point is 01:14:21 I'm a little kid and I hear the story, oh, we won. That fight's over. Now they've come back and they're trying to take us back in time to the Stone Age. I'm a little kid. And I hear the story. Oh, we won. That fight's over. Now they've come back. And they're trying to take us back in time to the Stone Age. I'm not okay with that. I keep thinking, like, there are differences in genetics. Fine. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:14:35 That's maybe it's intentional on Earth. You know, you get more sun. If your ancestors got more sunlight, your skin will get darker to handle the sunlight. If you I think that Asian people are, their eyes are like more slanted because they, or their ancestors lived in the high winds of the plains of like Mongolian plains. So they had to squint a lot.
Starting point is 01:14:53 I don't know if that's, I don't know. I'm trying to figure out why that it could be, it could be just nothing. Well, it's gotta be something that caused our bodies to shape differently. Like I think the really light skin people were, they either worked and lived at night. The Aryans, I've heard,
Starting point is 01:15:06 lived up north. And they lived up north with blinding sun, the snow, so they would blend into their background more. No, they covered up and it didn't matter. There was all sorts of possibilities, but they're real. And our genetics are real. You have more melanin in your skin. I don't know if you inherently have more melanin
Starting point is 01:15:22 in your skin, and that's why it's darker, or pigmentation-wise, but it's real. It's genetically real, so okay, fine, deal with it. But it doesn't mean that we're better or worse than each other. We're people. And we fought really hard to get to that point where we can break bread together and live together and respect one another. And it is now coming from the left to break us back down and send us back to the 60s you know every 60s my i your point that it now is coming from the left is one that i've been pondering i think that it's always been the left that the the left the democratic party that's everybody says
Starting point is 01:16:01 that lyndon johnson somehow had this conversion and he stopped being racist and he signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Democratic Party all just changed and they love black people. I don't believe that. I believe that tactics change, that the agenda stays the same, but people adapt different tactics. And that's why last week, and I got a lot of heat for this, for saying, hey, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, they operate the way the KKK operated. The KKK was started in the 1860s after the Emancipation Proclamation. It was the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party. The agenda was to impose, force people to support Democratic politics and to keep black people in a substandard condition here in America. I don't think things changed in the 1960s.
Starting point is 01:16:56 I think the tactics changed. You could no longer lynch people. Technology basically eliminated that because now people have phones in their homes. You can call the police. The KKK comes to your house and tries to pull you out of there. You can call the police and they come. You can't lynch people anymore.
Starting point is 01:17:12 It's too easy to get caught. We started prosecuting people. So we no longer lynch people, but we do bully them through social media campaigns. You have black lives matter. Antifa, they will come to your home and intimidate you. They'll take your job.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Take your way of living. Instead of burning crosses, we have burning buildings. And then if you look at the policies that the Democratic Party adopted from the 60s on, the elimination and the destruction of the black family, intentional. Intentional. of the black family intentional, intentional in my, and, and so basically we've infused black people. If you just go look at it, we've infused black people with a racist mindset, an anti-black mindset instead of the KKK or white racist person being most likely to use the N word. It's now us instead of the KKK killing us.
Starting point is 01:18:05 It's now us killing each other in record numbers in our own communities. It's, it's now instead of us putting out black face music or entertainment, instead of white people doing that, we now have rappers that do that and put out these very negative stereotypes about black people and we celebrate this as our culture we have been turned into our own worst enemy we act and have adopted the mindset of the kkk and we're doing it at the behest of the democratic party and i'm sorry if that pisses people off. I think it's true, dude.
Starting point is 01:18:45 You know that the Black Lives Matter website said one of their goals was to disrupt the nuclear family. They're doing it to other races. I don't even know if we're – is it technically are we different races? I don't know if that's the right word to use, but whatever. But like I hate saying white people. They say the white knight concept of a guy that's like I side with the feminists, so I dislike men. Like they're turning men against men in that sense. Or I should be guilty because of my skin color.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Like they're trying to turn me against that race or whatever. Yeah, against yourself. No, no, no. It's about divide and conquer. It's just about make people racially conscious so that they have negative stereotypes to people based on race. I don't think, you know, there's a lot of like alt-right people who think that they want white people to dislike themselves or something. No, I think it's just divide and conquer. They don't care who hates who as long as people don't like each other.
Starting point is 01:19:34 That way the heat is taken off the establishment. They don't want, I think it started with Occupy Wall Street. Because I remember my first real encounter with the critical race theory crazies was at Occupy. And it was like after I saw conservatives and libertarians down there and i was like wow it's crazy but then it went so that went straight up progressive you know it really started with um 9-11 where they turned us against the the middle eastern people no that unified color well the unified america white skin people against dark skin it wasn't about race though it kind of was it was about religion.
Starting point is 01:20:05 They were like, Muslims are dangerous. But then it was like, who's Muslim primarily in the world is people in the Middle East. The target of 9-11 after this was Saddam Hussein and the Taliban. Yeah, but they made us afraid of a certain people first. Like the xenophobia. It was a target of a country and the idea of terrorism. They unified this country against its perceived enemy, terror. And so there was no heat on the establishment.
Starting point is 01:20:30 George W. Bush's approval rating skyrocketed. This country came together in anger in a direction the establishment could weaponize. But we did. Let me ask you this before you go. Are you sure it's any different? And I'm asking. I don't know. The Japanese were responsible or we we say were, for Pearl Harbor.
Starting point is 01:20:49 9-11, they flew planes into the building. I can't be mad at the Middle East people or Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden for flying those planes into America. I can't be mad at the Japanese for, for Pearl Harbor. I mean, well, those were acts of Japanese organized groups. And the anger was pointed at organized groups.
Starting point is 01:21:12 The problem is when the Japanese American civilians got thrown in internment camps because the Japanese empire is that. So like if Osama bin Laden or whoever it was destroyed some buildings as a small group of terror to go after civilians in our own country in response, I thought I think was heavy handed. Sure. But for the most part, if the establishment can unify this country, but as a weapon against the enemies to empower the establishment, like they wanted to go to war in the Middle East for a variety of reasons. There's strategic positioning around Iran. Then you've got Qatar-Turkey pipeline. There's always an excuse for what's going to rally Americans. But something started changing with mass media. When we had Syria and the gas attack,
Starting point is 01:21:54 you had a lot of people on the left saying they didn't believe it. They didn't believe the propaganda against Assad. And then you had people on the right saying there's got to be a red line. It wasn't necessarily the right or the left. We're at a point now where they can't unify us because we're mad at them. And every attempt they make to point the finger at someone else, it just comes right back to the establishment elites because we figured it out. The mask has come off. The curtain has fallen. We're like, hey, wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Hey, wait a minute. You've been manipulating us this whole time. You listen. 9-11 was was a nightmarish scenario for this country. Nightmare. Never forget. And so was Pearl Harbor. And what did they do? They took us at our weakest when we were scared, when we were angry and we wanted justice. And many of us were emotional. I was just a kid. And they said it was that guy who did it. Go kill him. And we said, yes, sir. For America, we will have justice. And then we realized it was fake it was a lie
Starting point is 01:22:46 they tricked us they sent us overseas this nation to iraq and afghanistan for what there were no weapons of mass destruction they weren't involved it was a lie they manipulated us at our weakest moment that's what they do and now people are finally realizing we are done with this and so are we so they elected a reality tv guy well But also, but I want to ask this because, and this is where I disagree with a lot of people. I think the siege of the Capitol is the most overplayed thing. This alleged insurrection where I never saw one of these Trump supporters that I've seen draw a gun.
Starting point is 01:23:21 And so I've watched Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell basically stand up and they're pulling it off. Oh, my God. Did you see the Trump people? They tried to overthrow the government all because we're protecting you. And people are going for it. Yeah. Because I'm looking at it. I'm like, hey, man, I watched all the 2020 people burn down buildings, loot, riot, kill police officers, and they're acting like this thing at the Capitol was worse than what I saw in Minneapolis, Kenosha, Atlanta, L.A.
Starting point is 01:23:54 The stuff that's going on in New York and Chicago, 9-11. And I'm like, hey, man, I've watched the video. I keep looking for this crazy indirection, and I just don't see it. You remember the officer? I think it was in Vegas. He was just out because there were riots, and so he was just standing around. And so one of these rioters is walking away and just turns and fires two shots and keeps walking. Hits him in the head.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Paralyzes the guy. Why? They don't care about this. They don't care about this. Right. It's because the centralized authority, another problem about having, like, Congress people. But people are going for this Capitol thing. It's because the people at the Capitol that got most affected by it
Starting point is 01:24:32 are the politicians. Yeah. And it's because all that power is centralized in these 450 people that it's so vulnerable that if those guys get messed with, the whole system shutters. Well, what happened to them? I think Tim just said he's from the south side of Chicago. I've been in some neighborhoods in Indianapolis where helicopters, gunshots,
Starting point is 01:24:52 kids are traumatized on a nightly basis. Nancy Pelosi had some people in a Wolves uniform coming to the Capitol, and she's acting like she's a kid on the south side that she's been traumatized. I tell you, man, I used to spend a lot of my time covering conflict around the world. I worked for Vice. I went to Egypt. I was in Ukraine. I was in Venezuela.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And I always had people ask me, like, did you train for this? Like, it's got to be scary. People are shooting. I was in Ferguson. People were shooting live ammo. And I was like, oh, no, no, I'm just from the South Side of Chicago. I was like, dude, I went to Ukraine during the start of the Euromaidan movement, which eventually led to the ousting of Yanukovych.
Starting point is 01:25:31 And, you know, there was Molotov cocktails. There were guns. I got surrounded by people. I was in Turkey. I went to one neighborhood where a bunch of guys surrounded me, pushed me up against the wall and held a Molotov cocktail to my face. And I'm cool as a cucumber, man. I'm like, people are like, aren't you scared?
Starting point is 01:25:44 We were filming when that happened, too. And I'm not as a cucumber, man. I'm like, people are like, aren't you scared? We were filming when that happened, too. And I'm not trying to brag. I'm just like, dude, in Chicago, you want to talk about growing up with, like, dude, high school fights where I'm from, people had guns. And so people would scream and run. And we were laughing as we were running from the guns. It's like, it's just you grow up in this, man. Dude, if you're black and my we're we've been conditioned we go to nightclubs where we have to go through metal detectors to get inside the nightclub commonplace almost every black night
Starting point is 01:26:12 metal detectors to make sure you weren't carrying a gun and so we've been conditioned to normalize this but but i'm just looking at this capital thing and i'm going, there are kids in communities that are hearing gunshots every night. Their cousins have been killed. Their uncle, somebody's been shot. He's ganged up. These kids are traumatized on a daily basis and no one cares.
Starting point is 01:26:38 But Nancy Pelosi and, oh my God, she hid under a desk or something. Look, it's bad. It is's look it's bad it is but you know ian's right it was it's the nucleus when that got hit it shook the whole system but i'll tell you why the establishment elites the people with power the politicians they don't care about you so they don't know when the they're not there they're not getting they're not getting their windows shot up i'm gonna tell you why it's going to tell you why there's some truth there. Because it's just like when
Starting point is 01:27:05 I got here today, you told me that there were no police basically. And that was something I didn't know. Welcome to the wilderness, man. So to clarify, there are cops. But I tried explaining this to my very lefty friends who grew up in cities.
Starting point is 01:27:22 I'm like, you realize people who live in the middle of nowhere don't have a local police department to rush to you. Like, you've got to take care of yourself. For me, that's no big deal. I grew up on the south side of Chicago, where you pretty much can't trust the cops anyway to do anything for you. And to be fair, a lot of them are bad cops, but also a lot of them are overwhelmed with how crazy things can get.
Starting point is 01:27:40 So I get it. And I've always just been like, I got to rely on myself. But to the point about Pelosi, I think, look, they know what's going on in Chicago. They've not experienced it. I don't think they care. I think they hear about it in the news and they're like, yeah, well, what else is new? And then to them, never experiencing it, finally having, you know, I tell you, when I saw some of these videos of like the bumbling and bewildered, you know, older folks walking through the Capitol, and then I see these people panicking and like ducking and hiding. I'm like, really?
Starting point is 01:28:08 Like, you've got these pictures of the politicians and they're like laying down hiding. And I'm like, these people, for the most part, weren't armed. Now, I do think there was some real danger because some of these people seem to have been really nuts, really, really crazy. Many of them, I believe most, were probably just befuddled. Like the cops opened the door in several instances and people just walked in with little flags and didn't know what was going on. I was surprised to see, you know, there's this meme, it's really funny. It shows
Starting point is 01:28:34 these politicians laying down and hiding with gas masks on and says, these are the people who send your kids to go fight in wars and die. There you go. Yep. And look the other way as bodies pile up in cities all over America. But if a white cop kills somebody black, the whole country shuts down. Everybody takes a knee at arenas and stadiums all across the country. And George Floyd becomes the MLK of this generation. And I just want to add here, I had a cousin that I helped raise, that I loved. I paid for his funeral. Killed by the police, killed by sheriffs in Indianapolis. I am not uncaring about police brutality, but I'm also not a liar. That is not. Again, my father never left the hood, built a brand new house in the hood.
Starting point is 01:29:28 He carried a.38. He had an alarm system at his home, and it wasn't to protect himself from the police. Let's quit telling that lie. And the Masterpiece Lounge in the inner city of Indianapolis, my favorite place on earth, my dad's bar. We weren't sitting around. Oh, my God. Hope I can make it home. Hope the police don't kill me on the way home. When somebody and when a man walked you to your car, woman in my dad's bar, it wasn't to protect you from the police.
Starting point is 01:29:58 It was from the dudes that walked them streets in that neighborhood. I'll never forget the lap. My dad died and I threw a big party at his bar at the Mass Peace Lounge. My brother wanted to keep the bar and I was like, Jim, we ain't built for this. We not like my father. And we're closing it up at 3 a.m. And right outside the door, the back door, two dudes are beating the living hell out of another dude.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Bottles upside the head. And I can remember I told my brother, I said, you think we built to run this business when Two dudes are beating the living hell out of another dude. Bottles upside the head. And I can remember I told my brother, I said, you think we built to run this business when this is going on every night? This ain't us. We too soft for this. You know, I grew up with some really bad stories about cops. I've had cops kick the door into my apartment. At gunpoint, I've been, while covering a protest in Chicago, surrounded by cops at gunpoint.
Starting point is 01:30:41 A lot of just really nasty stuff. Yeah, I was there. Yeah, that's right. Luke was filming it. They put the gun to my head after I took out the video camera. That's a common occurrence. So we dealt with this.
Starting point is 01:30:51 I was in Chicago. And I'll tell you this, though. I've had some bad experiences, but I've also been saved from a mugging by a group of cops. And a lot of people, I guess if you don't experience these things, you don't really get it.
Starting point is 01:31:01 But I was in the north side of Chicago. And I don't know how old I was. I was i was on the north side of chicago and i don't know how old i was i was like 20 years old i was i'm broke hanging out with my friends crossing the street and some dude he comes up to me and he starts basically threatening me telling me i gotta give him he asked me for my money can i have your money man come on let me get your money i'm just trying to do the right thing and i laugh i'm like i don't got any money dude i was like i'm a 20 year old dude i'm broke and so he kept pressuring me. He had a guy following about 15 feet behind, basically a spotter.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Something goes wrong. His buddy comes up and helps him. I pull up my empty wallet, literally nothing but an ID in it. And then he's like, I know you got money in your shoe. I know you got money. You think I'm stupid? I got a knife. And then I started laughing.
Starting point is 01:31:40 I'm just laughing. I'm like, what is this guy going to do? Is he going to like frisk me? I don't got money. All of a sudden, it's like, it's like a split second. I have no idea what happened. I just get like kind of pushed to the side and this big dude in this overcoat grabs the guy by the front of his collar, spins him around and slams him into a fence and screams in his face, spit flying, not in my town. And then out of nowhere two uniformed beat cops are behind me and i'm like
Starting point is 01:32:07 what is going on they pull me aside like you okay sir and i'm like yeah yeah they cuff the guy they take his information they were like we've been watching these dudes we're we're you know we're tracking i'm trying to see we didn't know what they were up to we're glad we were here and i was like cool it's like wow and i i have more bad experience and positive ones, to be completely honest. But that was an amazing experience where they shook my hand, told me, you know, everything cool. You're all right. Have a good day, sir. We caught him in the act. We don't even need you as a witness. And I was like, all right. And that was it. Turns out the guy actually lived on the South Side, not too far from me, by the way. So it's a funny story. But I think people,
Starting point is 01:32:43 you know, get too much of the negative propaganda when it comes to cops because it's shocking and it plays well. It gets shares. Worldview by anecdotes rather than data, facts. And we have an anecdote-driveninformation, information that makes people. It's it's Twitter. It's not parlor. Yeah. And they never go after Twitter. It's I don't. Jack Dorsey, to me, is one of the five most powerful people in America. Who is he?
Starting point is 01:33:26 Did we vet this guy? He's not an elected official, but he gets to decide public discourse, the tone of it, who gets to speak, whose voice gets amplified. The guy has an incredible amount of power, and I don't know who he is. And I don't think most of America knows who he is. It seems ridiculous that we're shutting down Parler and no one's looking at Twitter. And Facebook, too. My buddy posted a video that has a clip of Anthony Fauci saying, masks are not needed. They don't do what you think they do. They give people a false sense of security.
Starting point is 01:34:04 It's from, I think, end of March or April. Or maybe even May. And then Facebook masked it and said, this has partially false information. And Ben was like, what the? Fauci was wrong. It was out of context. It was just a clip. But he was very clear saying, you don't need them.
Starting point is 01:34:20 They don't give you the benefits you think they do. It's old. It's an old video. So his position has changed. Man, he was emphatic. And he's been in the industry for well it's old it's an old video so his position has changed he was emphatic and he's been in the industry for 70 some or he's 80 70 so he's been doing this for decades and for him to not know after 30 years of serving in this in his position to not know that masks are effective or not well now he wants you to wear two of them yeah three within like cnbc wants you to wear three of them so Yeah. Three. CNBC wants you to wear three of them. So he spent 20 or 30 years studying this stuff.
Starting point is 01:34:46 And then within eight months, he completely did it a 180 degree turn. Wasn't there a meme where you said someone's smothering their grandma with a pillow? Yes. It's the only way to be sure. Are these enough masks? Yeah. All right. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Let's jump to Super Chats and take your comments. If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe, hit that notification bell. And more importantly, we're going to have a bonus segment. I shouldn't even call it bonus. I'm going to more just members only content over at Tim cast.com. So we're trying to do more, talk about more stuff, more issues and things that typically we get kind of hard to talk about because of censorship on social media. So Tim guest.com is really our opportunity to do whatever we want. We're going to be filming some more behind-the-scenes stuff as well. And we're going to – I shouldn't say too much, but we're going to do some on-the-road stuff talking about guns and survival stuff just to get more content and show you behind-the-scenes
Starting point is 01:35:37 stuff. I mentioned this as we go to our first Super Chat because they'd be ragging on us. All right. Petty says says hearing you guys talk about guns is almost as frustrating as hearing ian talk about things other than how banking is evil you'll catch up eventually though all right all right listen i've never pretended to be an expert i always say like i'm a new gun guy like you know what i mean like it's only been just over a year not even a year for me so far we're all learning and we're open
Starting point is 01:36:04 to learning more we're open to learning more. We're not always right. Fact check everything yourself. And another thing, there is a gun culture in person, which is absolutely incredible and amazing when you're on the range and you meet certain people. But online, especially when it comes to people's opinions about guns. Holy cow. Watch out.
Starting point is 01:36:20 I don't know anything. I'm a noob. I'm a novice compared to all the... I mean, the best things I could do is literally post something that I'm doing with firearms. I'll get so many critiques. And thank you. I'm willing to get better. I'm willing to listen to them.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Some of them are right. Some of them are wrong. But I'm willing to get better anytime. So thank you for your constructive criticism. So I'll say this too. Mr. Petty. All right. Now, we're...
Starting point is 01:36:43 You know, we here on TimC timcast irl we're tough as nails so you can criticize us all day and night i actually try to read the very critical uh messages about us too i won't shy away from them you know recently we did a segment where we talked about the jacobin magazine cover with joe biden as jesus and we thought it was serious i think that's mostly my fault because you know jack and luke couldn't even see it yeah and i took it seriously and later on we were like oh that was satire wasn't it i got roasted i got roasted and i deserve it and kyle kalinsky did a segment it was really funny i laughed he's like oh tim tim tim tim what are we gonna do with you and i was laughing i was like you got me you got me i screwed up
Starting point is 01:37:17 i thought it was funny i'll own up to it man but i would just say to the people who uh we've got a lot of comments about like you guys don't know what you're talking about. Have on some expert. We're trying. And I think a lot of people online, you should, you know, flies with honey, not vinegar. You know what I mean? Well, I appreciate the constructive criticism. Thank you. We're always we always could be better.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I want to have an expert on dreams on the show somewhere. We are. I had some crazy dreams today, like super vivid. I thought I was there. What time? Like four in the afternoon or something i don't remember i was asleep all right all right let's read a super chat we got jesse pile saying jason whitlock is the man fact outstanding insight and journalism much wisdom and looking forward to your group's discussion right on well we had the discussion it's an earlier super chat these are from earlier a lot of people are pointing out the wall street bets back up we we did see that eventually
Starting point is 01:38:08 gareth green says pool sunbay or pool appa if you prefer i am the heir of a wealthy family and i have been personally hurt and offended by leftist populist rhetoric for my entire life i always thought the rhetoric of the occupy movement was hate and bigotry against me. I get it. I do. And I think there's too much where like, we need to clarify what we mean and what we're really mad at. So when the left says tax the rich, what they only sometimes clarify and should do more often is that they're referring to the exploitation, the people stripping value from the working class, not those that genuinely do good and earn it. And when we are talking about the elites and stuff, I pointed out like, I actually think Elon Musk is really cool. I don't think he's perfect.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I think he's done some really dumb stuff. But I don't think, you know, my concern is, are you ripping people off? Are you evil? Are you stealing from people and hurting them? If you're a good person who helps people and they lift you up for it, that's awesome. I think that's great.
Starting point is 01:39:01 My problem with elites, let's take, let's stay in the sports lane. LeBron James. I. My problem with elites, let's stay in the sports lane. LeBron James. I have a problem with him. He's an elite. And I don't think he says things publicly that he actually believes. I think he caters his comments to how will they be popular over Twitter. And I see so many people on the left or these influencers say things like,
Starting point is 01:39:29 is that what you would tell your child? The same thing you're saying over the excuses you're making, the advice you're giving, is that the same thing you would tell your child? I just think they're just too dishonest. I once heard someone on the left say that during this whole Black Lives Matter deal that they that he and his wife had forbid his 17, 18 year old son from driving anymore out of fear that he would be assassinated by the police. And and so we make him take Uber because we're so afraid of a boy. And I'm like, are you being serious? What, what city do you live in?
Starting point is 01:40:12 And the person lived in Houston. And I was like, go check the stats. 17 year old black boys. If they're going to die by gun violence, go see if it's the police or if it's not another 17 year old black kid and then tell me so are you forbidding your black son from hanging out with black kids but you're going to forbid him from driving out of fear of the cop is that kind of dishonest rhetoric hyperbolic
Starting point is 01:40:37 rhetoric that i find offensive and it makes me despise these people and it never deals with the root cause of the problem. It's never going to fix the problem because it obfuscates it so people don't even understand the reality of it. There you and again, and I've had bad experiences with the police, one in particular. But even in my bad experience with the police, and it was bad, it went on for about 30 minutes in South Carolina 25 years ago. Compliance got me out of it, got me home in bed to be pissed off at them. Nothing happened to me. Yeah. Comply. I have friends who are police officers. Just comply. And again, complying and killing them with kindness because I like to drive fast. I no longer drive, but when I did, I drove really fast.
Starting point is 01:41:27 If I had a chance to go over 100 miles an hour, I went over 100 miles an hour. Pulled over many times. I got out of so many tickets just killing police officers with kindness, just killing them. They'd be mean to me, and I would still, Officer, I'm so sorry. It was so stupid of me to do that. I get a warning ticket. Most of to do that i get a warning ticket i
Starting point is 01:41:45 get it most of the time i get a one it's incredible people don't get it man that cops are people who are at work like how would you feel if you're at work and then someone did something that bothered you you'd be like or like they're breaking the rules you're like dude i'm doing this thing here you are you got to be like oh i'm sorry i'm not trying i know you're frustrated you probably want to go home see your kids kids, have a burger. Last thing you want to do is be dealing with some smart aleck mouthing off at you.
Starting point is 01:42:10 I see these videos where people are shouting their rights at them. And I'm like, I get it. I respect it. I would never do that. I just try to be tactful and understand the circumstances. If my goal with anybody,
Starting point is 01:42:23 if it's, hey, I want to get a phone number from a girl i'm gonna kill her with kindness i'm not gonna tell her i have a right to her phone number uh if i want to get out of a situation with the police with a warning ticket or not getting arrested i'm gonna you're the best way to do it is kill them with kind i try to always make their life better like even if they're screwing me over or being cruel to me, I just think, okay, when this is over, I want them to have a better life. Here's what's comical, Ian, is that many people believe
Starting point is 01:42:53 that the police see your white skin and just go, oh my God, sir, I'm sorry for pulling you over. Hey, just slow it down a little bit, buddy. Go ahead. They have no idea that police, just because of the job, they're pretty much a-holes to anybody they can get away with. The most pissed off a cop has ever been at me is when I was on my phone in my car. He drove by on a motorcycle, looked at me, went, and pointed.
Starting point is 01:43:16 I went, oh. And he went, like the face, like, I will arrest you on the spot if you don't pull that car over. I was like, oh, comply with the police. I got beat up by the cops a number of times there you go they shouldn't be a-holes they they are public servants that's another thing i i agree you're a strategy but we shouldn't be there in the first place they should understand that they have a public duty to serve and they should actually be responsible for serving it's true i i i think you know the fact that we often end up in this situation where we're
Starting point is 01:43:45 like oh i understand they're mad let's just be very nice to them we shouldn't have to but i do think i i do think that you know understanding the strategy and tactics of yeah you know be successful yeah yeah you know you could be you know tactful you could be respectful but doesn't mean you have to overly brown nose and kiss their butt. You shouldn't have to do that. Would you, if you could pick cops to be robots, would you? No. Would you? Absolutely not. Because you've got a lot of emotional experiences with them, I think, right?
Starting point is 01:44:12 Probably more than anyone at the table. Well, I got the crap beat on me a number of times for, you know, not even breaking the law, for hanging out in the wrong crowd, the wrong neighborhood, and, you know, growing up in New York City. Did you look black at the time? I find it hard to believe that you got treated poorly by the police uh well you're white well i grew up in brooklyn new york city but you're white i mean you've got white privilege didn't you show him your white privilege card in new york city in new york city a lot of it was based on the
Starting point is 01:44:39 neighborhoods you were in you've seen the south park episode with michael jackson uh so uh michael jackson moves to south park and the police are at the department and they're like what's this a black man has moved moved in and he's wealthy oh my god and so they like raid his house to arrest him and then when they see that he's white they're like what have we done oh god and then they apologize so south park's been on it What do you think about robot police? I don't... Terminators? We gotta do super chats.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Well, like emotionless law enforcers. We gotta do super chats. But I do wanna... I agree. I wanna hear Luke's take on emotion. A lot of the laws are bullcrap, so I wouldn't want robots using them anyway. And I'll say one thing before we move on to super chats.
Starting point is 01:45:22 Disorderly conduct, what does it mean? How could a robot determine whether or not you were disorderly? They can't. So you might get arrested for nothing. But anyway, we'll read to super chats disorderly conduct what does it mean how could a robot determine whether or not you were disorderly they can't so you might get arrested for nothing but anyway we'll read some super chats all right let's see we got here fisk the lombax says the hedge funds want to keep all the rewards when they make risky decisions and win when they lose they want to get bailed out and make everyone pay for their losses exactly nope oh here's one concussed gamer says luke you should get tulsi gabbard to wake tim up in the middle of the night that's the one hit me up tulsi uh follow me on twitter and uh tulsi on the show we'll do that yes let's do it tulsi you know well i'll just leave it at
Starting point is 01:45:56 that we'd love to have tulsi gabbard on the show i think tim would contain his rage if he busted him open at 3 a.m that would be weird be like one of few people in the world that you would like okay i'm not going to get angry. I got to be honest. Like, I probably wouldn't get mad at anybody who woke me up in the middle of the night. Unless it was like someone wanted to hurt me. We should all dress up like gorillas. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:13 And then Storm, Tim in the middle. I like where this is headed. Yeah. Actually, I'd probably get really, really, really mad. Because if I get woken up, I get migraines. Unless I wait. That's what I'm talking about. Nasty migraines. And then I'll get nauseous.y has the magic touch no i probably got the power i probably get a
Starting point is 01:46:30 migraine it's not nice to wake people up in the middle of the night yeah it messes me up real bad messes me up real bad let's see we got here oh what's this oh here's a bold one insight on the ages says david peckman has gone insane. Please have him on. He needs help. Half truth, the only way to explain. Please help. I'm not sure I understand. I don't know what happened with David Peckman. Honestly, I used to watch a bit more of his stuff. I haven't recently.
Starting point is 01:46:55 So I don't know. What's he doing? He's doing really well. Congratulations to him, though. I've seen some of his videos pop up, and he's getting a ton of views. That's cool. Unless he's saying crazy things. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:04 He's getting more and more famous, but doesn't have like a grounded group of friends. Maybe. I've actually known David for a really, really long time. I like that guy. Yeah. Yeah. We have our disagreements. I've been watching him since like right when he started when he was getting like 50 views,
Starting point is 01:47:15 300 views. Who is this again? David. David Pakman. famous moment where he had the Westboro Baptist Church on his show and then Anonymous hacked their website in real time. So it's like, you know, he's been around for a minute. But let's read some more as well. Let's see what super chats we got. We got DJ Strickland saying, I didn't like Jason years ago when he was ragging on the
Starting point is 01:47:34 Raiders, but caught a YouTube video of his opinions last year about America. God bless, brother. There you go. Your sports opinions are bad, but your American opinions are good. Were you calling out the Raiders when they actually sucked? I lived in Kansas City. Oh, I'm not an under Kansas City, and I covered the Chiefs, you know, and so he's just caught up in the Chiefs-Raiders rivalry. I got to tell you guys, I think we're going to have a really, really funny bonus segment because I already know what we're going to talk about. I'm not going to say anything right now, but trust me, you're going to love it.
Starting point is 01:48:00 It's going to be really funny. We're going to laugh, and you definitely want to go to TimCast.com to become members. Or you can wait, because we'll post the video, and then you can decide then. But I think it'll be hilarious. It'll be fun. Jason's going to be... Jason's great, so I think we got a good segment. Mitch L. says, one of your best guests. Big J, you are the man.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Thank you. Man, we got... Everybody loves you. Brandon Freeman says, love Jason Whitlock. Love this format and guests you guys have been having on. Thanks for the great shows. Right on. Jamie Richard says, buy some stonks. And then posted seven rocket emojis. And it says, colon, rocket, colon.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I guess that's how you type the emoji. Carl Engstrom says, been sharing your channels hard for a while here. Keep the truth coming. Greatly appreciate it. Please, please share. It helps. Josh Martinez says, finally I can lurk the cnn comment section and upvote each one in good conscience it's about time we had a good day trumpism omega blade says hi tim check out john schaffer's sons of liberty one of the songs Jekyll Island lyrics mentioned ending the Fed.
Starting point is 01:49:07 Sounds like Ron Paul, the kind of band. Yeah. Let's see what we got. Let's see some of these. Gareth Green goes on to say, let me be clear, though. This anti-short, this storming of Wall Street is glorious. It is the beauty of the true free market that human hands cannot control. Oh, I think there's probably another one I missed.
Starting point is 01:49:24 He was the heir from earlier. Yes, but I think maybe he had another one one it's hard because sometimes they get broken up here we go this one's important chris geitze says watching reddit ruin people's retirements funds for the lulz is like watching antifa burn small business to fight the establishment you know that that is one of the the questions being mentioned about hedge funds are they managing people's retirement accounts and betting it all and losing it all? Look, it's still an issue of the establishment crony elites rigging the game to enrich a small group of people, and they are using these retirement funds to do so. Right. if you have a business and then someone comes and burns it down as collateral damage, as opposed to if you're giving hedge fund managers money to invest and ignorantly not knowing that they're gaming the system. You get to choose how risky of an investment you want to
Starting point is 01:50:13 make as an individual. So that's a personal decision that a lot of people are making. So that's up to them. Bobby Lane says, Luke, I always vote with my dollar, which is why I'm leaving a super chat. Keep up the good work over there. And I'm really glad to see glad to see wall street bets making the rich big sad lol alex jones 2024 oh geez there we go psycho dwarf says tim fact of the day a time on target artillery attack is called a stone ah yes interesting i don't know that's a reference to but probably something important someone said what is it uh spell checker stonk interesting nobody knows what it means stonks yeah well yeah it's just a slang term right it'll mean stars luke said stonk went earlier when he was saying well it's a meme stonks oh it is yeah yeah it's awesome michael tierney says we
Starting point is 01:51:02 just need the 99 to stop buying from companies like Amazon and Walmart, spend at small business to keep the money in the community. Lockdown transfer of wealth opened my eyes to this and instantly canceled Prime and go to local stores. It's a very, very good point. That's a tough one for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:17 I watch a lot of Amazon Prime videos. I'm watching one right now, America, This Is Us or something like that. It's about American history. I think about getting away from Amazon. Well, I've been going more to a more regional chain grocery store instead of Walmart because we used to go to Walmart all the time. I don't want to go to Walmart anymore. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I'd never go anymore. Yeah. So now it's like trying to avoid it, but it's rough, man. Does Amazon own Twitch? They own Twitch, don't they? I don't know. They gave me Prime benefits for Twitch for Red Dead Redemption. I got a bunch of in-game benefits for having Prime.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Oh, they're everywhere. I think they might own Twitch. Let's see. AngloSaxonite says, look into Pelosi buying Visa stock after she helped pass a law that helped Visa. She and her husband made millions. They're pretty rich. Wouldn't be surprised gareth green says fyi poland was a soviet satellite but it was officially an independent nation it wasn't actually part of the soviet union it was part of the russian empire
Starting point is 01:52:14 from the from the napoleonic wars until world war one though after it was partitioned out of existence in the late 1700s yeah amazon owns twitch okay yep billion dollar company matthew herbeck says you know what i feel for these hedge funders maybe i can offer a glimmer of hope there's night school cut your spending maybe pick up another part-time job think of a change of trade learn to code work longer hours where they are they are going to get a thousand four hundred dollar check soon so they got that going for you no actually it's based on last year's income, I believe, where they probably made millions of dollars. So now that they're broke and destitute, they're not even going to get that.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Too bad. Stevie B says, a stock is only worth the next person will pay. 90% of those buying GME will lose. Wealth will be destroyed when stock gap down. Don't touch GME. It's a good point. It's true. But you have to think about 3 million people each putting in a couple hundred bucks. The maximum loss for them is a couple hundred bucks. So it's bad. Some people bet big and they'll lose big for sure. But these hedge funds bet way big with no bottom. And so the more people keep buying up the more
Starting point is 01:53:26 the as long as there's massive demand it'll keep going up and then these hedge funds are going to be in serious trouble how did gamestop make out after all this are they actually getting fiat from the stock purchases so my so there there is an uh some people are saying that maybe gamestop will issue more stock to raise capital to help save the company. I think some people pointed out that executives of the company sold a long time ago when it was at like 30 bucks. And so they got out while they could. Ultimately, it's irrational. The money is just being traded between people, not the company.
Starting point is 01:53:58 The company could theoretically, you know, raise capital somehow. They may have already done it. I wonder if GameStop will take the opportunity in the PR to actually make some positive changes to survive. I think, in my opinion, if they can still, if it's not too late, they need to make GameStop kind of like Steam. They need to create a browser-based game downloading system, and their brick-and-mortar stores should become event spaces
Starting point is 01:54:18 with gaming competitions, local stuff, that should lead to state level, then regional, then national, really promote the community. They should do board games, card games, video games, and they should sell stuff. And if people are playing the games online and downloading kind of like how Steam works, but then they go into the physical shop as a member to compete, and then the winners get to go to the regional stuff, that's going to create a whole market around a professional space, new products, new economy. That's the way you play it.
Starting point is 01:54:47 Maybe they won't do it. Maybe they can't do it. I don't know. That's what I'd do if I was them. Grand Kai says they are not afraid of their buddies failing. They are afraid of losing their money from newsroom to politicians at their all their wealth is at risk. Tell me how many people got their money back from a Madoff.
Starting point is 01:55:04 This is the same. Yep, they're going to be really, really salty. Let's move down here. We got some more from Gareth Green. He says, I would like to say that hedge funds do provide a service to those who invest in them, like me and my parents. That said, I was revolted when our financial manager expressed approval of massive money printing in our last meeting. I disavow him. Yeah, man, you know,
Starting point is 01:55:26 I have a lot of friends and I've known for a really, really long time who have always been really well off and they're really good people who are really aware. The problem is the snooty elites who think they're better than everyone just because they were born into it. And then mostly the people who exploit the system. I guess some people are bad people, you know. I try not to be mean to people. Base Player 2011 says, Sellers lost almost $40 billion trying to short Tesla. Not hard to see why Elon is loving this.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Yup. Jaya Surin says, I heard that Elon was only briefly the richest man in the world, and Jeff Bezos came back to the top after a day, and Elon was the richest guy because of Bezos' alimony to his wife because of the divorce. That's for sure. Well, there you go. Bezos split half his net worth with his wife when they divorced. Not half, no.
Starting point is 01:56:13 Oh, I thought it was half. No, I think less than that. Lurch says, Enrique Tarrio turns out to be an FBI informant. Curious. I did do a segment about it, but it was a while ago. I don't think it was actually recent. We got way too many. I'm so sorry, guys. We got way too many super chats, but y was a while ago. I don't think it was actually recent. We got way too many. I'm so sorry, guys.
Starting point is 01:56:26 We got way too many super chats, but y'all are awesome, and I really appreciate it. Chris Pavoto says, Tim, Luke, did you see that Governor Newsom approved $1 billion tax bucks in contracts to a Chinese company for N95 masks reported a few days ago? Been pushing my family to leave CA, even though our special needs son benefits from CA weather. That's a bummer, man. Definitely. California is brutal. I escaped. How long were you there?
Starting point is 01:56:52 Ten years. Can you disclose where you went afterwards? Yeah, I'm in Nashville. Okay, awesome. What decade were you in California? 2010 to 2020. Yeah, I was there for part of that, too. I think they're getting rid of Newsom, or they want to issue some recall? They're working on it.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Is that what they're doing? Yeah, the recall. We got a religious post here. Josh Shuster says, Jesus Christ is God. He shed his sinless, perfect blood to atone for mankind's sin. Corinthians 15, 1 through 4. You must trust Jesus for salvation and not a religion or your own good works. And that's Ephesians 2, 8 through 9.
Starting point is 01:57:29 I am not a very particularly big religious person, but much respect to those who want to express themselves. Dr. Doctor says, with the advent of automation and the fact that humans as a species is not evolving quick enough compared to its computing machine, so we're going to have a mass displacement of workers in the near future 30 years or so how do we as a society figure out a figure out how our bartering system perhaps there's more but i think i got the general idea um what was this someone mentioning that canada is going to go full ubi or something like universal
Starting point is 01:58:01 basic income is around the corner and they really want to push it. They want everybody just getting money. Hey, they crash the market. Nobody owns anything. Then they decide what you can have. That's the elite global authoritarianism. That's the Great Reset, basically. You've seen that, right, Jason? You will own nothing and you will be happy.
Starting point is 01:58:20 Well, they're talking about the Fourth Industrial Revolution with technology and their advancements, in ai removing a huge swap of the labor force so that's literally what they're discussing at davos right now that they're calling the great reset the great redefining of capitalism aka more centralization more control more regulation justice more big government all in done in the name of social justice naomi Klein said, this is all going to be... All the good things that they promised are never going to happen. All the bad things and the consequences are going to happen because of this.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Microsoft has patent 060606, something like that. It's an implantable where it can measure your bioactivity and then pay you cryptocurrency. We're in a simulation, bro. They want you to... It'll be able to register if you're watching an ad on TV, and if you watch specific ads, it'll pay your account crypto just for watching, just for being a certain way.
Starting point is 01:59:12 We got Isaac Lux. He says, First super chat, but newish viewer, five months, recently MI unemployment got stimulus, so I wanted to support you guys. I watched your 10 a.m. video and almost hopped on the train, but I saw this coming. Well, you know, I'll just shout out. I really appreciate it, Isaac.
Starting point is 01:59:27 But I do think if you're on unemployment and you have a stimulus, you should keep all that. You should keep all that. But if you really want to support the show, by all means. I mean, you know, I'm a pretty lefty guy. I don't like the idea of people having money getting special access for the most part. But it's just kind of how the system works there's no real way around it tim's gonna get super rich and then distribute the wealth to a bunch of people we can't yeah i'm gonna leave my address here when you cut those checks as socialist as i am dude i was when you know we saw mega millions hit like a billion
Starting point is 02:00:00 dollars i bought some tickets and i no lie i was like as the guy's printing it i'm like i'm gonna give you a million dollars and he started laughing i'm like no i mean it if i want a billion dollars i bought some tickets and i no lie i was like as the guy's printing it i'm like i'm gonna give you a million dollars and he started laughing i'm like no i mean it if i want a billion dollars did i give tons of money i give someone i give it all away i give almost all of it away i'm too i'm i'm just i just give it away luke would all the businesses you can buy bitcoin with it and then he wouldn't he wouldn't let anyone are you kidding me would you give the money away i if i had millions yeah without a doubt dude i would just start investing in all these people so much people don't understand just like how stupid rich people are that they don't know even what to do with themselves with that money to be fair it might not help people might hurt them seriously a lot of people who get a lot of money really quickly
Starting point is 02:00:38 end up actually uh putting themselves in very horrible situations but i tell you what i would do i would go i'll go random house knock on the door and be like i was wondering if there's any bill you're having trouble with and then when they're like oh yeah you know i got this one bill it's like a thousand bucks i'd be like here you are sir have a nice day so it's just enough to help them out with that one thing the problem with just giving a random person a million bucks is they don't know what to do with it how do they put in a bank like so if i actually won the lottery you might actually cause a lot of stress and problems for them by giving them too much but you want to if you if you win the lottery you want to give them
Starting point is 02:01:08 enough to where they're jumping up and down yes and they've alleviated a lot of their problems but not to where it's you know more money more problems you know yeah creating a situation where you just give people money is a lot different than creating opportunities for people to earn money doing good things if i had a whole bunch of crazy, stupid money, I would literally build it into developing tech, social media, internet 2.0 like it was before. That's what I would do. Start investing in companies like startups? No, no. Build an own decentralized central internet network that was the internet of the old, bringing it back on its own servers, on its own platforms, and giving people jobs and opportunities to work in the future, giving a service that's going to free people.
Starting point is 02:01:47 I'll tell you what I do. I would pay off tons of medical debt. I think that's the easiest way. I don't want to give money to those companies right now. No, but buying debt is like 10% of the actual cost. So when Occupy Wall Street organized this thing, I forgot what it was called, but they raised a bunch of money. And then you have this debt that's sitting that they can't collect because the people are
Starting point is 02:02:08 destitute. So they say, how about we resolve? You want 10 grand? I'll give you a thousand bucks and we'll consider it resolved and say, deal. And then the people who are in debt are no longer in debt anymore. There's still the problem of them having to pay taxes on it. So then you have to figure out a way to give them enough money to where they can cover all of the taxes. So you'd have to give them some money and pay their medical bills. I think that would be a really a way to give them enough money to where they can cover all of the taxes. So you'd have to give them some money and pay their medical bills. I think that would be a really good way to give away a lot of the money if you won the lottery. Dude, people don't realize if you won the billion dollar prize, you would have more
Starting point is 02:02:34 liquid cash than Elon Musk. You would give up about half of it to the government. You'd end up with probably like 400 million because the cash prize, the net, the total annuity prize is a billion. But then the cash payout, if you choose cash is 735 million then you pay half of it so you end up with you know just shy of 400 million you'd have more liquid cash than most billionaires in this country maybe even in the planet because they have hard assets that are very very valuable but liquid not so much you'd then have to figure out what to do with it it's not it's not it's not so easy but let's be real.
Starting point is 02:03:05 If you're in the lottery, you'd be like Richie Rich. I was sitting here listening to you guys. I would invest a lot of money in my school, Ball State University, and I would make them teach things that celebrated traditional American values. I'd run all the Marxists off campus and create an entrepreneurial school that taught kids how to start their own businesses. Oh, yeah. I love that. And I hope my school president's not listening to this.
Starting point is 02:03:35 All right. We'll grab a couple more Super Chats here. Art Vandeley says, check out the new Thomas Sowell documentary on free to choose network and upcoming bio by justin reilly sowell is a national treasure he is he's a smart fella he's the second person that suggested that in the last 24 what's the name of the documentary i don't remember you should watch uh shelby still did a video documentary what killed michael brown awesome interesting all right we got jq nelson film says whitlock heard you moved to Nashville from LA. I just moved from NYC to Nashville due to the lockdown,
Starting point is 02:04:09 homelessness, et cetera. Do you think these big cities will come back post-COVID? Also, we go to the same barbershop. Oh, he goes to Collins Barbershop. I don't think the big cities are going to come back, not to what they were. No, I think, and I was telling Lydia when she picked me up from the airport, I think that's a mistake for conservative people and conservative media outlets.
Starting point is 02:04:33 They need to evacuate New York and L.A. Quit playing away games. Go play home games in Texas, in Tennessee, in Florida. Go be with your customers. And, you know, I wish that Fox News would relocate to Nashville or Dallas and that way Lachlan Murray or Lachlan Murdoch or any of them, when they went out and socialized, they'd go out and be amongst people who thought like them rather than playing
Starting point is 02:05:05 road games and being intimidated because the whole atmosphere around you is so far left. There's a meme I tweeted today in relation to this. It says, if lockdowns weren't profitable cash cows for the global billionaire class, they'd end tomorrow. Yeah. Yep. Good point. All right.
Starting point is 02:05:21 We got James Kaleri saying, take this money, you capitalist pigs. Love you guys. Appreciate it. Tilt Rod says, on police reform, Sir Robert Peel basically invented the idea of a uniformed police force. I think you would appreciate his original principles about policing, Peelian principles.
Starting point is 02:05:36 We abuse the power of police by using them as tax collectors. Interesting. Well, my friends, thank you all so much for all of your comments and super chats. We had a lot tonight. And as you know, we really can't get through everybody but we try but we're going to have another
Starting point is 02:05:48 segment coming up at timcast.com which is going to be at least I hope very funny and fun and more relaxing and chill and I can cuss I was told you can cuss you can go nuts I just got two hours without cussing I'm shaking
Starting point is 02:06:03 we do tell everybody they can cuss if they want, but YouTube is just really nasty about it. And we try to be family friendly. So it's really up to you, but everybody kind of respects the idea that we'll keep it down. But at TimCast.com, we're going to go crazy, and it's going to be hilarious. We're going to be laughing. So please go to TimCast.com, become a member. Smash the Like button. Subscribe at the notification bell.
Starting point is 02:06:25 You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, Parler. Why did I just say that? Keep saying it. Stop it. Because Parler's coming back. It is? I don't know. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:06:33 I'll do it one day. Mines at TimCast. And my other YouTube channels are YouTube.com slash TimCast and YouTube.com slash TimCast News. And we do the show Monday through Friday live at 8 p.m. So we will be back tomorrow. Jason, you want to shout out anything you're working on, your podcast, your Twitter, what you got?
Starting point is 02:06:47 You can check me out on Twitter at WhitlockJason. I'll just leave it at that. It's a good Twitter account, too. I've been following for a while, so good for you. No, you haven't been following. What? Yeah, you unfollowed me. I didn't unfollow you.
Starting point is 02:06:58 I know, somebody did. I follow you. Trust me, I've been heartbroken about it. Lydia, what did I say when you asked me? I followed you a Trust me. I've been heartbroken about it. Lydia, what did I say when you asked me? I love Tim Pool. I've followed you a long time. No, I know. So when she mentioned, she went, yeah, of course.
Starting point is 02:07:12 Heck yeah. Oh, now I'm mad at Twitter. I've been mad at Twitter for a long time. But this has been happening. There's also Ron Coleman. He's a lawyer. I've been unfollowed for him like five times. I don't unfollow him.
Starting point is 02:07:23 And I literally was like, damn, I wonder what I said. No. I'll follow you right now. Luke, you're here. This happens a lot, by the way. Also, if you like to buy the t-shirt that I'm wearing right now that says, if you trust the government, you don't know history, you can on thebestpoliticalshirts.com.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Thank you so much for purchasing those t-shirts and supporting me over at wearechange.org. It means ashirts.com. Thank you so much for purchasing those t-shirts and supporting me over at wearechange.org. It means a lot to me. Thank you. Yo, what up, everybody? I'm Ian Crossland. You can follow me basically all over the internet
Starting point is 02:07:55 at Ian Crossland and probably gaming later tonight. If you want to follow me on twitch.tv slash Ian Crossland, I'll be firing out a tweet to let you know when I go live. Jason, you mentioned that you were going to be starting a show. I know maybe it's too premature to really talk too much about it. It's too premature. It's exciting though. I'm going to follow you on Twitter as well. I'm so offended at Twitter.
Starting point is 02:08:14 Twitter. Because I remember you tweeted something in response to me and I immediately followed you. And then I guess I just didn't even notice. You haven't followed me in by six or seven months. Trust me. I have the day written down next to my heart on my nightstand. But we've also read OutKick articles before, too, I think from you. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:32 Dude, Twitter's dirty, man. I'm saying this in all seriousness. There have been two podcasts I wanted to come on, and I can now cross this off. Oh, dude, you're welcome to come back anytime. It's a fun show. Joe Rogan is the other one. Tim Pool and Joe Rogan are my favorites. It's way bigger, though. I feel like if you're one. Tim Pool and Joe Rogan are my favorites. It's way bigger, though.
Starting point is 02:08:45 I feel like if you're interviewed by Tim Pool and Joe Rogan, you've made it. I swear. I promise you. Then you've got to get interviewed by Tim Pool and Joe Rogan at the same time. That would be incredible. That's going to be a good one. Like, Jack, everyone always brings up that episode about Twitter or whatever. I'm eternally grateful to Joe for having me on.
Starting point is 02:09:02 Because I told the story before, but when Joe asked me to do it, I was like, are you serious? I had like 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. I'm like, what am I doing? I don't think you smiled once on the show, too. It was awesome. He did not. He never broke character. He never broke character.
Starting point is 02:09:15 Well, because for me. You were in their ass. Oh, I'm sorry. You were right, though. Well, no, no. It was like when I went in to that show, I didn't even care about the cameras. I was like, oh, these guys. was like when I went in that show, I didn't even care about the cameras. I was like, oh, these guys.
Starting point is 02:09:27 Like, I'm going to say some stuff. Anyway, anyway, we'll save it for the bonus segment. We also got Sour Patch Lids pressing on them buttons. Yes, I'm pushing all the buttons. I had a great time talking with Jason when I picked him up from the airport. You guys can follow me on social media, if I can recall. I am Real Sour Patch Lids on Gab and Instagram. And I am just Sour Patch Lids on Mines and. And I am just Sour Patch Lids. Sour Patch Lids on Mines and Twitter.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Right on. The conversation continues at TimCast.com. We're going to have a special segment talking about some funny stuff related to the gorilla T-shirts. And, you know, we'll have some fun with it. So thanks for hanging out, everybody. And we'll see you over at TimCast.com. Bye, guys.

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