Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #216 - Alexandria Ocasio SMOLLETT Trends #1 As Turns Out Her Story Was Fake w/Jack Murphy
Episode Date: February 4, 2021Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia host friend and fellow YouTuber Jack Murphy of the Liminal Order to discuss AOC's recent apparent dishonesty about being in the capitol building at the time of the riot, the ...human brain algorithm, Tim's tweeting techniques, and the Proud Boys, who are now officially designated a terrorist group in Canada. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Now that Donald Trump is no longer, you know, in office and the media is eternally desperate for something to talk about, they are starting to, for one, talk about Trumpism, say Trumpism is fascism and a whole bunch of other just who cares?
You know, look, man, Trump had his time and he might come back. He may be a big player in the midterms and moving forward. But for the time being right now, Joe Biden is the president. Stop talking about Donald Trump. They can't, though. They're
obsessed. Well, something is taking the place of Donald Trump in a different way.
And it's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Why? She's very much like Trump. Now, obviously,
not politically, of course, not age wise. And Trump's an old white guy and she's a young
woman of color. But when it comes to social media presence and the things they do, there are a lot of
similarities.
The other day we talked about how the media was overly distracting us because of this
ridiculous nonsense related to Ocasio-Cortez and the critics.
We actually have now a substantially more relevant story.
When AOC told her story about being in the Capitol riots and fearing for her life and the cop banging
on the door. I said, look, I can respect it, right? If you're scared and you've never experienced
this, I'm not going to complain about that. I get it. I don't expect everyone to have experience
in riots. Well, it turns out her story isn't true. So there you go. Now trending at number
one on Twitter is Alexandria Ocasio-Smollett. No joke. They are comparing her to Jesse Smollett, trending
number one in the US on Twitter. Maybe more. I don't know. But this is now a substantial
political story because it sounds like AOC was actually lying. And there's another video people
pulled up where she contradicts her own story. It's one thing to give a heartfelt, emotional
story about you being scared and have people criticize you.
And that's needless drama.
It's another thing when a very high profile politician lies about what really happened
in order to garner power and political support.
And that makes it a much more substantive story.
Albeit, normally I don't care for the drama, but there is a line.
And I would say it's when we catch politicians and outright lies
and so i still kind of roll my eyes at talking about aoc but that's the that's the gist of the
story but we do have a bunch of other stories uh the good news for for luke kasky who's here with
us is that he's now a person of color this is this is not there's no joke i'm not kidding it's
what is the coalition of communities of color is that what's called i believe so they said that
slavic people based on their determination and the oppression now are people of color we're turning uh not just we're not going to just do a
segment about this i now proclaim that we're going to be talking about the this just in the entire
show so uh this is now the luke cast irl show thanks so much for giving me over uh your show
tim well this is actually this is a good point for a long time, I said this is a minority
owned company because, you know, I'm part Asian.
But as you now know, Asians are no longer
part of the people of color because it's
BIPOC. It's, you know, black indigenous
people of color. They removed Asian from it.
So I'm out. Yeah, I'm double white.
You're whiter than white. I'm double white.
So excuse me, don't interrupt me.
I'm speaking, please.
Stand aside. Give up positions of power for people of color, Tim. Don't interrupt me. I'm speaking, please. Stand aside.
Give up positions of power for people of color.
Exactly.
Thank you.
Thank you, Jack.
This changes everything for me.
If you want to support a minority people of color business, you can.
We are change.org.
As soon as I heard this, I had to check my credit score. Wait, hold on.
You got to go on Google and list your business.
I am.
I am.
I'm going to.
I'm like, we just found out
about this right before the show. So I'm going to go
after YouTube for discriminating against me
and demonetizing my YouTube channel. All
the censorship efforts. It's on. Yes.
It's on like Donkey Kong.
And now I mean
this changes everything. I love it so
much. So you guys are
allowed to speak. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. Well we have
a bunch of other news as well. You know Chris Pratt. They're ahead okay okay well we have uh we have a bunch
of other news as well you know chris pratt they're trying to cancel chris pratt because someone made
a bunch of fake tweets and i do think it's interesting of course they're always trying
to cancel somebody but they're legit trying to get a dude like pulled from his movies or whatever
because someone made fake tweets of him and we're entering the deep fake era so there's a lot we can
talk about there for sure we got covid is apparently disappearing it's great fake down 44 just gone no one knows why no for real they're saying it's
not vaccines that we don't know what it is it's just all of a sudden it's going away and uh
maybe maybe trump was right remember when trump said one day it's gonna go away
one day after the election and it did when he did yep yeah that's that's really interesting
so uh you know we'll get into these things and of, of course, I mentioned Luke Rutkowski's here.
I am tweeting up a storm.
I'm going to be tweeting a lot more.
Also on Instagram under LukeWeAreChanged.
So look out for some crazy memes.
I just memed a really funny Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez meme.
Very good.
Definitely worth checking out.
And, yeah, I also release videos.
I'm an independent media creator on the YouTube channel WeAreChanged.
Thanks for having me.
We're hanging out with Jack Murphy, as we normally do on Wednesdays.
What's up, everybody?
Glad to be here.
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So we completely jumped the shark here. COVID is on its way out. And Luke's the house. That's right. Every other Wednesday. I love it. Every other Wednesday. So have we completely jumped the shark here?
COVID's on its way out and Luke's the colorful.
That's not jumping the shark.
How dare you mock my designation, Ian?
Don't make me expel you from society.
Did I fall asleep for 100 years?
I don't know.
I don't know what's happening right now.
I mean, this is great.
So I really want to go into this COVID story.
This is the biggest thing in the universe right now if that's
if that's really there's also a very important announcement by the world health organization
but we still we got a lot to get into so let's just get right into it and i think we also have
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I bring you now to Twitter.
Number one United States trend, Alexandria Ocasio-Smollett.
And number three is Kyle Rittenhouse.
We'll get into that later.
It's a crazy day, I guess, filled with all sorts of drama. But here's the actual big news from Red State.
AOC wasn't even in the Capitol building during her near-death experience.
This isn't just one story. All right. I mentioned this the other day. We ragged on the idea of the
drama because the drama was AOC was like, yo, the Capitol thing happened and I was scared. And I
went, OK, I get it.
And then Michael Tracy was like, that's manipulation.
And then the media picked this up and made the story about Michael Tracy tweeting at
AOC.
And then the Young Turks is like, oh, Smackdown.
I'm like, dude, I don't care.
I don't care.
The news about AOC telling a story and then some journalists criticizing her.
So what?
Well, the story today is actually substantially different.
AOC now has three big lies.
One that she feared for her life.
This is the first thing she said.
I was scared I was going to die that day.
The next Ted Cruz, you almost had me killed.
And the third, I was terrified because the rioters were coming.
And, you know, the cop was was banging on my door.
And I don't know what's going on.
And I was hiding.
She wasn't even there.
Now, she responded to this claim saying that's a smear,
taking advantage of people who don't understand the capital complex so jack posobic posted an image showing that the building she was in was
across the street it's not the same building but there's tunnels tim there's tunnels you don't know
about the tunnel i know about the tunnel no that was her response but they didn't go in the tunnel
they're also connected through electricity okay and this thing called wi-fi and internet i mean they're all interconnected so i mean they could have came through the phones
jumped out who knows now look that i tried i i refrained for the most part from criticizing
parts of her story that i didn't want to get in the drama one of the aspects of her story was
that while she was hiding from the mob apparently she had her staffers in the lobby like what like
to confront the mob for her it's insane they should all have been hiding white people to the front i don't even think the person was white but but no more
importantly it just wasn't a true story yeah it was at at best in her case a total embellishment
that okay i get it people that they did they did evacuate the building where her office is
and that was because there were concerns about maybe a bomb threat or something but nothing to
do with the rioters and so she's telling the story of her like pinned up against the wall, scared the rioters
were coming.
Tons of news outlets actually wrote that the rioters were storming the building.
They didn't even fact check any of this.
She wasn't even in the building.
Imagine the goal to understand that the country is so much in trouble, so divided.
And what do you do in that moment?
Look at me.
I almost died and he almost killed
me. I mean, that's absolutely insane. There's a meme going around with her, that famous photo of
her at the border where she kind of kneels down and she's crying. And they kind of replaced it
with her watching the TV of the Capitol riots. And that means going around viral right now.
Because again, you have to understand here, you know, she also interjected. This is not that she just
talked about it randomly offhand. She interjected when people were having a populist Reddit revolt
on Wall Street with the Wall Street bets. She interjected that with this particular story,
which we're learning is just absolutely nonsensical. So ask yourself, was it spontaneous?
Was it deliberate? Was it intended
to bring attention back to the fact that there's been an insurrection and there's domestic
terrorists and she's getting out in front now messaging for a rollout of counter insurgency
and counter domestic terrorism and censorship, all kinds of things. She has to keep the story
alive, keep the emotion alive to lay down some groundwork for legislation and action.
Did you also happen to notice today that NPR and Reuters both running stories from Brennan
saying that we need to take the lessons that we learned from battling insurgents in Iraq
and Afghanistan and use those same tactics here against people in the United States?
NPR was running that story interviewing
a cia agent that was a part of fighting counterinsurgency in the middle east and he's
like we need to do this we need to go after trump it's crazy he literally said this former cia guy
to npr that we have to treat the people who follow trump like isis or al-qaeda npr by the way national
public radio not a national company.
It's a private company.
Right.
It's a nonprofit, I believe.
Yeah.
But they're now going to start
bringing the domestic,
the war on terror home, domestic.
Glenn Greenwald warned about it.
Of course.
And I love it.
I love it.
No, no, no, no.
I'm saying I love the media scenario.
You gotta let me finish.
I love that all of a sudden
you now have these leftists
who claim to be anti-authoritarian
suckling the teat of the security state and cheering it on, cheering for 25,000 troops
coming to D.C., cheering for a permanent green zone, barbed wire fences surrounding the Capitol,
cheering for 5,000 National Guard permanently remaining in D.C., cheering for AOC as she manipulates and tells these
hoax stories in order to generate the ability to swing public opinion, to generate the swing
in public opinion to support more authoritarian lockdown.
The tactics that they learned in Iraq and Afghanistan to manage an insurgency are things
like this. Hire local gangs to carry out assassinations.
Use bribery and intense incentives.
Use drone strikes in the middle of the night.
Just make people disappear.
We also have to understand this insane notion of an insurrection.
When the United States went there to their country,
they're not insurrecting against anything.
They're mad about guys coming into their country and then killing their people and then dropping drone bombs on them.
So how dare you even call them insurrectionists?
They're people who are fed up, who are wearing flip flops, who don't even know where the United States is or even the concept of the United States.
Most of them talk about Afghanistan. Yes. Yes.
I mean, it's absolutely insane to understand, you know, the situation in Afghanistan for my personal friends who are vets who are saying a lot of these guys don't even
know anything about the united states they don't even care about what we do they just want to live
their life and most of them are goat herders i want to point out the united states is an
insurrection against the british monarchy let that be remembered started so. But let me read the story from Red State. They say Newsweek even claimed that AOC, they said this.
Ocasio-Cortez said that rioters actually entered her office, forcing her to take refuge inside her bathroom after her legislative director, Geraldo Bonilla Chavez, told her to hide, hide, run and hide.
And so I run back into my office, Ocasio-Cortez said.
I slam my door.
There's another kind of like back area to my office and I open it and there's a closet in the bathroom and I jump into my office, Ocasio-Cortez said. I slam my door. There's another kind of like back
area to my office and I open it and there's a closet and a bathroom and I jump into my bathroom.
It turns out, however, that wasn't true. They had to fact check and start retracting all this
because it wasn't true. They say, as it turns out, however, my colleague Banshee reported earlier,
AOC said in her Instagram drama that the person who came to her office was a Capitol Police officer,
but she denigrated the officer who came to help, claiming he didn't feel right and that he was looking at her in all this
anger and hostility.
They go on to mention, but a few important things to note that seem to have been left
out of the whole story.
AOC wasn't even in the Capitol building where all the action was going down.
If she was in her office, she was in the Cannon building, which is nearby, but a different
building.
But of course, many didn't get the
logistics and just assumed that she was in the Capitol Building. According to Rep. Nancy Mace,
a Republican from South Carolina, who has an office in the same hall as AOC, two doors away,
there were never any rioters in their hall, so there was never any physical danger from the
rioters coming in at any point. AOC tells this story, making it seem like the rioters are coming,
taking advantage of the fact that people don't know where her office is, not in the Capitol building.
And in response, we see this from her.
She said, let me slow down.
Jack Posobiec tweeted AOC.
He tweeted the story.
AOC wasn't in the building.
AOC responds.
This is the latest manipulative take on the right.
They are manipulating the fact that most people don't know the layout of the Capitol complex.
We were all on the Capitol
complex. The attack wasn't just on the dome.
The bombs Trump supporters planted
surrounded our offices too.
AOC took advantage of the fact that
people didn't know. They didn't know when
she said, oh, the rioters, and I was hiding in my office.
Most people just assumed
her office was in the Capitol building. I did.
I did too. I did too. She's so whole pride file. Why not? Because she was telling the capitol building i did i did too i did too
she's so whole prideful because she was telling this story about the riots and everything i assumed
that she was in this building when it's when when it turns out it's not true and she was lying she
says we're the ones or or jack posobic or the right are the ones manipulating so here's what
jack posobic tweeted a a picture from Google Maps. Here's the
U.S. Capitol building. And then you can see across the street and you have Katie Porter's office.
And then you have that's in the Longworth House office building. Across the street from that is
the Cannon House office building where AOC is. She was kitty corner to the Capitol building in a
different building. They didn't go in the tunnels. They went into the Capitol
building. When Jack pointed this out, he said, what about the tunnels? They weren't in the
tunnels. We know they weren't in the tunnels. That wasn't the news story. So it's a month later,
and she comes out with another story. I'll mind you conveniently around the time that people are
staging an insurrection. I'm doing air quotes against Wall Street and totally shifts the
narrative.
And we get into some stupid drama news cycle where they're just like, oh, Michael Tracy's a journalist and he said some mean things about her.
And then it goes by and everyone's like, you guys realize that she doesn't work in the
Capitol building, right?
And then I didn't bother to look into the story.
You know why?
I didn't care to cover it.
Who cares?
Yeah, it's silly drama.
So she was scared.
Look, like I mentioned, AOC comes out and says, I was scared. say i respect that look i'm not gonna i'm not gonna look jack you're
you're at six foot five or whatever if you told me that you you know you weren't scared i'd say
sounds about right and aoc is you know like what five seven and she's like a you know just she's
not no experience in this kind of situation i say okay she's scared can we move on what's the point
yeah no no use arguing whatsoever.
But my question to you guys, do you think that she just spontaneously sat down and started weeping on Instagram?
Or do you think that this was intentional?
I think she's a sociopath.
It's always intentional.
Well, this is the thing.
This is not-
Part of a larger agenda.
This is what we have to remember.
She also was photo-opped crying at a fence looking at an empty parking lot a couple months ago.
That's very true.
So, I mean, the photo's very clear. It was at the immigration camps. There wasn't anything there.
It was an empty parking lot, and she's weeping and crying, and those photos went viral,
and there was big stories about this. And this is, again, rinse and repeat. Use emotion and
politics to skew anyone's rational thinking and critical thinking skills, which are out the door because we have a lady that's crying.
We have to do our, what is it called?
We have to white knight as best as we can and support her.
I love the meme where it's like a crudely drawn paintbrush meme and it says, oh no, she's crying.
Quit, burn the Constitution.
That's the only way.
When I say it's always intentional, what I mean is when you make internet videos, you're always doing it on purpose.
You never like accidentally in your most vulnerable state get online and make an internet video.
It's a process.
Yes.
And we've seen a ton of YouTubers do this where they start filming themselves and they're like, I'm just so sad and I needed to tell you all.
It's like you turn the camera on and then started crying for the camera like to break up videos.
They're so annoying.
AOC has really like taken this new
internet drama culture of reality TV,
much like Trump did from terrestrial television,
bringing it into politics.
She's bringing the same kind of drama,
garbage, nonsense, reality TV
from the internet into the political world.
And it is gold. It's platinum. I'm afraid it's driving her kind of drama, garbage, nonsense reality TV from the internet into the political world and it is gold.
It's platinum. I'm afraid
it's driving her kind of crazy. I went through it as
a YouTuber and then with the things you
think they love you for, you want to do more of and
if you think they like you because you're crazy, you want to be
crazier and then you want to be crazier and like try
and top yourself and to see that in a
politician is terrifying. I think she knows what she's
doing. I think she's a careerist. I think
that's why I'm like, I don't care to talk about her telling her story the fact that she's now
jesse smollett everybody and we all just assumed she was in the capitol building that's that's huge
imagine if she went through what ran paul went through a couple days ago when he went through
a black lives matter protest a couple weeks ago you know wait whoa whoa ran paul i was there i
saved him yeah man what happened we have ran pa Paul at like 2 o'clock in the morning.
I was out on the protest.
It was the night of the Republican National Convention,
and they didn't have any security out in the street.
And I spent all night escorting people from the convention,
from the White House, back to their hotels,
guiding them around, rioters and mobs and stuff.
And as I was getting ready to leave, there was Rand Paul.
And I went up to him.
I'm like, dude, you can't be here.
And we bought some time and space.
And we finally got some cops over there.
He got attacked.
He got attacked.
He got attacked because they said, why won't you support Breonna Taylor when he's literally
the guy who wrote the Breonna Taylor bill?
Yep.
He wrote it.
But they assume like it's a Republican.
Get him.
Yeah.
It's like it's Rand Paul, dude.
No, they don't like him.
They don't care.
Yeah.
AOC comes out and talks about, you know, the first criticism she got for the story from
a lot of people was, I wonder what the people who lost family members during the Black Lives Matter riots are thinking right now when you're claiming that, you know, you were scared for your life.
But think about how how despicable this is now.
Not only are you know, look, I don't like these games where they're like, well, the Black Lives Matter, you know, riots did all this damage.
So you should be talking about them.
I don't like that. You know why? They're different things. AOC is allowed
to be like, yo, I was scared. It has nothing to do with what happened with Black Lives Matter.
If you're mad that she didn't call it out, we can say, I'm so sorry this happened to you. Like,
I mean, sincerely, it's a horrible thing. And I'll get your back. My only my only request is
just to pay attention to other people who feel this who feel similarly. I don't think it's a one-up game.
But now I'm pissed.
Because now it's not only does she defend.
Well, protests are supposed to make people uncomfortable.
Not only does Kamala Harris bail out these rioters who burn down cities, literally got people killed.
AOC now fabricates the story of what went down.
I actually have one tweet where someone actually points out that AOC
even changed her story day over day, where first she was saying that she didn't go to the extraction
point because she was worried about the other Congress people. And I did a big segment about
this on my main channel about how the Democrats are scared Republicans will kill them because AOC
was saying, I'm worried about what they'll do to me. She was telling how, you know, during the
Capitol riots, I didn't want to go with the Republicans and be in the same place with them.
Later, she's now saying that maybe she didn't get the extraction point information because
the officer was withholding it. Like the story changed a month later. She is purposefully
turning on her live stream and telling a sob story. My question is, you brought you bring
up a good point, Jack. Why is she bringing this up right now? It's been a month.
And she goes, they're trying to tell me to move on. I'm not telling you to move on. I'm wondering why it is you purposefully chose to start a late night primetime live stream telling a fake story,
exaggerating what went down, and denigrating the cop who actually tried to save your life.
If it was true that you were in the Capitol building, like everyone assumed, and maybe it's
not her fault because people just assumed it, but that could be, it's a manipulation tactic to leave out key details to make people assume things i won't i
don't know if she has the savvy to actually pull that off maybe she does but i think she does i
think she's extremely cynical i don't think people give her enough credit i think we think she's silly
and ditzy i think she's incredibly cynical and the fact that she brought in the like the race of the
people who are being affected like treating the cop like he was after her because her skin tone.
That's something intense for when you're feeling super emotional.
If she's telling us this story about rioters coming to get her,
it was bad enough she was insulting the cop who was risking his life to save her
when another cop already lost his life.
Now it turns out this cop was probably just walking through an empty building,
and he probably knocked on the door, probably not even that bad,
and said, oh, where is she?
Oh, you can come out.
What's go to the go to the go to Katie Porter's office with the bombs.
I heard about bombs surrounding.
Yeah, they were.
They were pipe bombs, I guess.
OK.
She never said she was in the Capitol building in from what I know.
So she didn't overtly lie to people.
She just omitted information, assuming that people knew.
No, no.
But now she's saying when Jack Posobiec put out the story, she's like, this is misinformation.
They don't understand the Capitol complex.
She's trying to defend the idea that she was in the riots at the Capitol.
And the mainstream media was running with the story.
She was at the Capitol, many of them.
And if you're in that position, you're supposed to fix them.
You're supposed to correct them as the person who's telling the story so people don't assume.
But not only that, she may not have said, I was in the Capitol building.
She was telling a story
about how the rioters
were potentially coming for her
and she was hiding from them.
They weren't,
they were across the street
in a totally different building.
But she didn't know.
It was just madness and chaos
so she didn't know
where they were.
Likely.
She knew they weren't
in the building.
And when you say
if you're at the Capitol complex,
you're at the Capitol.
Even if you're not
in the Capitol building,
you're still at the Capitol
is the way I think
the phrase is. It's irrelevant, bro. Look, look, I wasn't at the Capitol, even if you're not in the Capitol building, you're still at the Capitol is the way I think the phrase it's irrelevant, bro. Look, look, I was I wasn't at the Capitol building
that day. But I was downtown. I was on Pennsylvania Avenue. I saw what was going on. I felt the energy.
Dude, even I could tell that there was something off, right? There was energy in the air that
wasn't usually there. And it was unsettling to me. And as I get in the reports of the riots at
Capitol, I was like, I'm not I'm not going down there so i can understand if she was uncomfortable i totally can
the lying i even understand that people embellish she's on instagram she's just talking her heart
and whatever but the timing and why now why now at the same time is all this news about domestic
counterintelligence or counterterrorism and battling insurgencies and doubling down on people being terrorist groups and insurgents and suppression of civil rights and coming after people and de-Trumpification.
I think it's smokescreen.
I think it's meant to get us to do this.
Why didn't she talk about Robin Hood?
And talk about it instead of being more focused on what the CIA and the FBI and everybody are going to do.
But I disagree.
We talked about this the other day.
We're literally talking about the CIA and the FBI in this context and how it's dangerous that AOC's emotional story, which is fabricated, is a manipulation tactic that will allow the federal government to expand national security powers.
And shout out to Rashida Tlaib once again for being the one person who says we can't allow the government to expand their security powers on this.
Meanwhile, AOC is the one who's feeling the fire to do it.
Do you think that that signifies a crack in the squad?
You know, honestly, I look back at a lot of the news and I don't I don't know if Rashida Tlaib was always completely in alignment,
more so that they were kind of fellow travelers in a sense that uh their interests aligned for a time for the time being and uh i i'm not gonna be able to pull up all of the other examples where i've
been like oh that's interesting that richard to lay wasn't agreeing with aoc on this one but
notably the omnibus spending bill where she played voted against that and so did tulsi gabbard and i
said wow that's really cool for she did to lay that was the right move more republicans voted
no on it tulsi gabbard voted no on it i wish you know more people voted no on it well it would be
amazing is to have her on the show. So if anyone knows her and has
connections to Rashida Tlaib, please come down. Please message us.
We would love to have you. And I think that would be an awesome, amazing, important conversation.
I've probably said some very disparaging things about her in the past. Very critical.
I'm pretty melted by this. We'll be fair like we are to everyone else. But she's obviously
providing a perspective that's very critically important.
And for a wider audience to understand that, I think it's critical right now.
I look at what AOC is doing as extremely destructive.
And the drama politics, the snapback, clapback stuff is really, really bad for our political environment.
It's got to be called out.
It's got to be talked about.
Get used to it, bro. Oh, I know. I know i know i mean look it was yes absolutely it is it is reality tv politics
is idiocracy and trump is to blame for a lot of it as well but trump didn't create it aoc didn't
create it it's it's a natural byproduct of humans just they love for drama i actively tried to
create it in 2007 i would make youtube video
blogs talking about becoming the president using internet video to interact where you don't need
secret service you can have leaders from around the world on skype together and but we're not
talking about barack obama getting him up as the first internet president but that's not what we're
talking about with it what we're talking about is instead of saying let's do a live show where
the president can talk to the constituents about new health care policy.
It's more like I'm running for the Democratic Party because Jack Murphy's a moron.
Burn your high five me.
Yeah.
Jack, what do you got to say to that?
I just roasted you on TV.
Vote for me.
There's going to be a lot of that.
And I think that Trump and AOC are similar in that both of them.
This is my take are following their instincts.
And it's not as proactive and deliberate as people might ascribe to them.
I don't give either one of them that much credit.
I just think that they're being themselves, going with the flow, feeling the energy, right?
I mean, social media people, you know what the energy is like.
You put something out, you get the energy back.
You're like, oh, just like you're saying, you do more of that. Like're like, oh, I do. Just like you're saying you do. You do more of that.
Like, I know exactly what kind of topics get high engagement for me on Twitter.
I know which ones that don't.
I still don't because it's true to me.
But if you're just following the energy, it's it's it's it's it's being drawn out of them as well.
For you're right for AOC and and for Trump, you know, Trump would tweet up a storm
and he'd switch. We long talked about how there would be some drama or a lawsuit, for instance.
There's a really funny moment where Trump changed the asylum rules. And it was the one time no one
cared about Trump's moves towards like immigration. Why? Because he tweeted the squad should go back
to where they came from and then come back or whatever. Trump knew he could tweet and shift the focus away from the things he was working on.
And he did.
You're right.
I think AOC knows how to generate press attention, gain more followers.
You got 12.2 million.
And I think for channels like this, look, you're going to you'll get a lot of grifters,
people who similarly know what they can talk about in order to generate a ton of press dude we we'd all be better off playing minecraft doing scare vlogs you know
like jump scares and pranks it does it does so much better and so it's it's weird to me that
there are people who are grifters who choose politics as their as their path really because
it's like bro you could just make mine videos and do better. If you applied yourself in the same way, the hard work, you would be the biggest video
game, Fortnite, you know, Call of Duty, whatever channel you streamed it.
Politics is not where you want to go for this stuff.
Politicians, however, it's exactly the game they have to play.
And then they need other people to prop them up.
So there is an element when it comes to political commentary from left or right of propping up the politicians they like and trying to win some political battle.
But I truly believe that right now the space we are in has nothing to do with politics.
That's why they say, you know, Tim Pool is far right or whatever, even though I'm like, I like universal health care with private supplemental insurance.
That's a right-wing position apparently.
But it's because I'm critical of their tribe
so it's really just tribal politics that's right aoc can lie and be caught and they will defend her
and say you're far right now truth be told donald trump even said he could shoot someone on fifth
avenue and not lose a voter because it was it was very tribal, truth be told, I think in the precursor to this new era, Trump was
pushing policies people liked. And because of that, he generated a large tribal base, which
expanded into a tribal base specifically. But a lot of people supported Trump on his policy.
Notably, I did. I voted for him because of school choice, because of his later attempts to withdraw
from Afghanistan and the Abraham Accords, et cetera etc but now what i think we're going to be moving into as trump leaves with aoc now getting 12.2 million followers is going to be
absolute drama youtube style she'll make a video being like you know ted cruz he was saying this
ted cruz i challenge you to a rap battle and then ted cruz is going to come out and be like yo aoc
what up let's rap and it's going to get ridiculous. Not really Ted Cruz.
Could be, though.
Ted Cruz is already playing basketball with Jimmy Kimmel.
Boom, there you go.
So it's already happening.
It's already here.
The bastardization of just the media space just to get the clicks, just to get the attention,
just to get the Paris Hilton PR model running, which is essentially what we're on.
And again, we have to look.
I've been saying this.
I sound like a broken clock. It's a lot to've been saying this. I sound like a broken clock.
It's a lot to do with the algorithms.
You sound like a broken clock.
I had to laugh at that.
I had to laugh at that.
Potato, potato.
You know what I'm trying to say here.
Yes.
I have to laugh at myself here.
Again, where we're going to is just idiocracy times 10 but i think a lot of this is incentivized by the
big tech algorithms the big tech oligarchs who are controlling what we see controlling what's
popular controlling what we don't see and i think that perspective is is essentially really really
critically important moving forward because that power is everything like the cortez obviously had
this moment where she was like i'm feel i know know that the Robin hood thing is scandals going on.
I know that I could talk about the sec and the banking industry getting
involved with wall street and messing up these people's Chris,
but I'm feeling this.
So I need to talk about what I'm feeling.
And that is very selfish.
You don't have to talk about what you're feeling.
Sometimes you want to not talk about what you're feeling and talk about
other things that are more important.
Yeah.
If you're a representative,
you're supposed to represent other people, not just yourself and talk about what you're feeling and talk about other things that are more important. If you're a representative, you're supposed to represent other people, not just yourself
and talk about yourself and be self-censored and egotistical when you're supposed to be
talking about the suffering of all the other people who are not doing good, who are downtrodden,
who are being screwed over time and time again, whose wages are going down, whose wealth is
going down, all because of a broken system that you're now
literally taking selfies in front of being like well don't i look pretty aoc is little trump yeah
i've been saying for a long time the people who follow her aren't cheering on her policies because
what are her policies green new deal explain to me what the green new deal is i mean literally
because i'm in favor of a green new deal no joke i did a whole whole video on it two years ago when AOC was talking about Green New Deal.
I was like, this is actually really cool.
And I pulled up a poll that said 85% of people support the idea of Green New Deal.
You know why?
The simple way of describing a Green New Deal.
Should the government allocate more resources into investing in, developing, and expanding renewable energies?
Yeah.
What do you think, Jack?
Yes, I agree.
I agree with that. Do you think so, Luke luke you're against taxation i don't like any government
doing anything so 85 of people are like absolutely look understanding in existing in this con the
confines of the existing existing taxation system the u.s government has tons of our money and we
think they should allocate more towards green energy renewal projects and things like that
expanding technology investing so linger was a disaster.
But people are still like, hey, look, man, we're trying to do something cool and good
and new.
Instead, we get foreign aid packages in the billions of dollars, trillions of dollars,
and AOC's Green New Deal.
What is it?
Well, according to Sykat Chakrabarty, her former chief of staff, it has nothing to do
with the environment.
It's all about reshaping the US economy.
It was about creating gender studies
programs. It was about getting guaranteed college for people of color. It had nothing to do with
the New Deal, with renewing. Look, we've got crumbling bridges and crumbling roads,
crumbling infrastructure, and we want to help push America towards more energy independence.
And what I should say is more advanced energy independence to secure our position as an energy
independent nation.
Yeah.
I like the idea of the investment.
What AOC proposes isn't that.
So I look at what people are talking about with AOC and they can't.
What are they really supporting?
Did she did she force Nancy Pelosi to put a floor vote on Medicare for all?
No, she just blindly voted for her.
She's not doing anything to actually help progressives other than be a tribal avatar for the tribe.
And what is she calling for?
She's calling for big tech censorship.
She's calling for the eroding of civil liberties.
She's calling for a bigger police state that, of course, will, of course, reign in on supposed domestic terrorism threats.
She's talking about a new Patriot Act 2.0.
I mean, these are policies that, of course, go completely against helping individuals.
What actually does help people? Well, it's none of the policies that, of course, AOC is pushing individuals. What actually does help people?
Well, it's none of the policies that, of course, AOC is pushing right now, in my opinion.
It seems to me that there's an algorithm we're not talking about right now, and it's the one
that's in our head. We have an algorithm. We are predetermined to react to certain things.
She is hacking our human algorithms.
Much like Trump did.
Much like Trump. much like anybody who's
successful social media in a competition for attention it's the attention economy you got
to get attention how do you get attention you appeal to people's emotions you put that out
there you trigger those empathetic reactions and the byproduct of getting attention in a positive
way because there is positive ways of doing it but the byproduct of doing this is we're just
splitting into these empathetic tribes you can watch the same thing with two different people you take away two
different outcomes two different perspectives and you can't understand at all what the other
person is saying i read i tweeted something about this today jack so big retweeted me so i got i
got the jack so big title wave of comments and he has a lot of haters bro and the people that
were responding and the hate the hate camp man they lot of haters bro and the people that were responding
and the hate the hate camp man they can't see it and they think that we're all just monsters and
doubles and terrible people because we because we think she's manipulating us here's what i love so
uh there's this big battle going on between marjorie taylor green you know and and the
democrats they want her removed from her committees for things she has said previously that are
fairly you know insane and bombastic don't get me wrong said previously that are fairly, you know, insane and bombastic. Don't get me wrong.
And it was reported that, you know, Kevin McCarthy, minority leader in the House, was
negotiating with her to, like, take her off one committee.
I just responded with Republicans are such pathetic losers.
Now, think about the context of that.
Kevin McCarthy, Democrats demand Marjorie Taylor Greene be removed from all committees,
but Kevin McCarthy says only one.
And then I called Republicans pathetic losers.
The immediate assumption from a bunch of these leftists was, why are you defending Marjorie
Taylor Greene?
And I said, what did I say in her defense?
It's a tribal assumption.
What if my point was that instead of just booting her off her committees, the Republicans
were only were
refusing and and and kowtowing to q anon and that's why i was calling them pathetic losers
i just called them losers and immediately the tribal assumption was i was in defense
of marjorie taylor green i don't mean i don't mean to call out your methods but you do
tweet those vague mirror projecting uh tweets all the time you mean like vague like as in as in it's
like the magic mirror it's like yes it's like whatever people respond reveals the way they
interpreted literally why i did yeah yeah and it's effective but the truth was i don't care
if the republicans kick off our committees or don't regardless they are pathetic losers
republican politicians so i was like i don't care. I figured it was something everybody would agree with. Right? Either you're a Republican who says, why are they coming after Marjorie
Taylor Greene and bowing down to the Democrats? Or you're a Democrat saying, why won't they remove
this crazy woman? Either way, they're spineless, pathetic losers who can't just make a decision.
They're like, what do we do? What if we only hurt her a little? What if only strip her a little bit?
It's like, pick one, dude.
Either you're with the Democrats and you're saying she's bad, or you stand up for people
who just got elected to your party.
Spineless.
I don't care if they keep her on or they don't keep her on.
I think she said crazy stuff.
And I understand why people are mad about it.
I think there's been Democrats who've said crazy stuff.
Maybe Marjorie Taylor Greene says some crazier, crazier stuff online.
But regardless, pick one.
They can't even do that.
Whose side
are they on? You know, the Republicans just love to do whatever they're told in a very pathetic
and weak way. It's fairly sad. But no, you bring up a good point. I almost always make these magic
mirror tweets, as you call them. The goal is whatever tribe someone's on, they see what they
want to see. And it's hilarious to watch them react to it.
I got to say, it's Michael Malice, man.
I learned from the best.
I didn't come up with this stuff.
It's hilarious to kick over an anthill and watch the ants scramble, kind of.
You misunderstand.
Yeah, but he's not destroying anything.
No, no, no.
Hold on, hold on.
Well, you're finding joy in their suffering and confusion.
Who's suffering?
These people that are answering to their own craziness.
I genuinely think that Republicans are pathetic, spineless losers.
And I kept it fairly vague so that it wasn't overtly descript towards a particular individual.
But you also made a video about it where you went deeper into it.
I did about what?
You led a video.
I heard you lead a video earlier today.
Republicans are spineless losers.
You actually called them losers in a video.
Absolutely.
And that was a way for you to explain it.
But in the tweet, it's like a vague, and then people are freaking out.
So what?
Well, it seems like you enjoy watching people freak out.
I don't look at the notifications.
I don't go and check what people are saying, responding to, for the most part.
I thought you just said the people you did.
For the most part.
Were you just talking about the response?
Yeah, it was a guy who was immediate response to me
after I tweeted it was like,
you know, you are clearly supporting Marjorie Taylor.
It's so weird because I completely stopped doing that,
doing vague tweets.
I'm trying to be as specific in tweets as possible
so that I don't confuse people.
No, no, no.
It's impossible.
It's literally impossible.
People will just tweet nasty
things for no reason i mean look at seth rogan do you see the seth rogan jonathan k interaction
jonathan k who uh he's he's quillette isn't he yeah jonathan k is uh i don't i'm not super
familiar with what his exact title would be but he writes for quillette and he tweeted a joke
about something do you remember what it was jack i don't it was shampoo oh yes that's right he was using he was using dog shampoo so he tweeted this joke it was a silly little joke
where he was like for the longest time i've been using dog shampoo and didn't realize until i went
to the store and tried to buy it and then notice in big bold letters it says pet shampoo and i
should have realized and seth rogan responded with like you're stupid something like that
and he responded with like okay I'm making a silly joke.
It's a self-deprecating humor.
And Seth Rogen was like, so what?
I said, you're stupid.
That's the point of Twitter.
That's why you don't use Twitter legitimately.
No matter what you say, you passively make a joke where you are deriding yourself in
silly humor, targeting no one.
And a multimillionaire celebrity will insult you for no reason
none whatsoever so i don't give specific tweets i see the republicans i see what they're doing
instead of me writing out 500 paragraphs explaining everything wrong with republicans i say these
people are spinal spinal losers yeah they won't stand up for anything they don't defend anything
they just say well we'll do a little bit of what you want democrats and then not do anything not
all of them, right?
99%. Yeah, you got Thomas Massey's cool.
Rand Paul's cool.
Josh Hawley's pretty cool.
Ted Cruz is okay.
Dan Crenshaw's pretty cool in most ways.
Well, I disagree with Dan Crenshaw on a lot of things, but I think he's an all right guy.
I just really disagree with him on a lot of things.
See, I just post a bunch of memes.
That works.
We have to remember social media is not real life, but it's becoming real life.
And a lot of the nastiness is incentivized, again, by the algorithm.
When you do have that drama, when you do have that thing, again, we're talking about this, again, from the very beginning.
It's all about emotions.
If you're able to spark a negative one, they've done psychological studies showing that gets more of your attention, that spurs the fight or flight reflexes.
And here we are.
We're talking about the same thing.
So I used to work for these nonprofits.
This is now almost 14 years ago.
I did fundraising for nonprofits, and it was street canvassing.
You guys know those people on the street that are waving to you,
saying, like, you have a minute to talk about the environment or whatever.
That you don't want to have eye contact with?
Yes.
Yes, because if you have eye contact, they got you.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'll tell you guys a secret technique you know secret technique is i could get anybody in
the world to stop for me anyone in the world you want to know what the trick is break dancing nope
trip them you don't ask them anything you just hold out your hand you walk up to them stand in
front of and you hold out your hand to shake it and then once you're shaking your hand you say
i'm going to talk to you about the environment why you're helping it's the same way if you meet a
girl and you want to get no. You start off with physical contact.
That's not it.
It's that I'm physically holding them and they can't leave.
And then you get pepper spray.
There's that too.
But I'm shaking their hand.
You see, it's a clever high pressure sales tactic.
That came out a little psycho when I said that.
You grab their hand and you shake it and they can't walk away while you're talking to them.
And then with your other hand, you hand them your clipboard.
They grab it and then you let go and then you put your hands, you hold your hands to your side. Now they're physically holding your property. They'll try and hand it
to you, but they can't leave as long as they're holding it. Anyway, I digress. When I worked at
these offices, they would have these events where they would mass purge the entire office,
firing 40 to 50 people in a single day, because demoralization is like a virus.
So you have 40 or 50 people, and you need them doing sales for a cause, which means they
have to be passionate and positive.
They go out in the street and they say, dude, I need your help right now.
We got to save the world, man.
I believe in you.
Do you believe in me?
Let's do this.
Give me your credit card.
Now, how much we're going to tell how much money I'm taking from you?
So getting people to feel good was was paramount.
There's also also ways where you can make
people feel regret or loss and make them feel a sense of urgency to get them to donate. But what
happens when the fundraiser, the canvasser can't do it? They get frustrated. They get really close
to that sign up, that membership, and they fail. Now they're getting frustrated and angry. They
try again, but that frustration persists. Now the people who are walking up to him see this angry person with a furled brow and they're like,
I don't want to talk to you. You're nasty and pissed off. That person comes back to the office.
Their friends say, how was your day? It was awful, dude. People are such awful people. I hate this
place. And then the other people feel that negativity. The negative negativity started
to spread like a virus. So all of these offices, what they would do is they would have no joke, 40 to 50 people
in the office, all training, and they would do debriefs at the end of every day when people
come back to the office and they would ask you, how was your day?
If too many people said negative things, they would immediately fire every single person
to stop the spread of the negativity virus.
You're making me think.
And then rehire an entirely new team in the next week.
The negativity virus is in Congress.
Oh, absolutely.
But it's on social media.
And it can't, unless we get rid of all of them, it's going to persist.
No, I'm not talking about Congress.
Because the people that have been there still have it.
I'm talking about Twitter.
And new people go in like AOC and now she got it.
You have people who are overtly negative, being negative to other people, spreading
around a negativity dem demoralization,
mind virus. So one of the stories I like to tell is about how I was getting a cab from New York. I was in Manhattan. As people in New York know this, New York cabbies in Manhattan will not go
to Brooklyn because they got crazy rules. Yellow cabs can't pick people up in Brooklyn. Green cabs
don't pick people up in Manhattan. So if you're in Manhattan, cabbie pulls up. What they'll do is
they'll crack their window a little bit and then they'll say, where are you going? They're not
allowed to do this. It's illegal. You'll say do is they'll crack their window a little bit. And then they'll say, where are you going? They're not allowed to do this.
It's illegal.
You'll say Brooklyn and they'll peel out.
So you got to say, you got to give them a fake address or something.
Get in.
And then as soon as you're in there, go, oh, actually, I mean Brooklyn.
And they get really mad.
Well, so I had a cab pick me up and I didn't lie to him.
He just pulled over.
I got in the car and he said, where are you going?
I said, I'm going to Williamsburg.
And he got really angry.
And the entire ride from Manhattan to Brooklyn, which is a decent ride.
He was just driving like a jerk. He was cussing. He was angry, complaining, I gotta drive to
Brooklyn. He was just mad at me the whole time. And I didn't say anything to him. And then when
I got out of the car, I gave him 100% tip. I doubled the money. And as the receipt's printing,
all of a sudden, he just was like, oh, thank you. Thank you so much. Bless you. Bless you and
your family. And I was like, hey, man, I really appreciate you taking the time out of your day
to bring me to Brooklyn. I know you can't pick people up. So hopefully this gets you back to
keep working. And I hope that you bring a positive light to other people, because now that guy feels
bad, for one, about being mean to me because I hooked him up. But more importantly, I wasn't
trying to make him feel bad. He's happy. He's like's like dude i was i was in for a bad day and this dude just
covered the cost of my trip back to manhattan now here's the point the next person who gets in that
vehicle is going to see a smiling happy guy who's going to be like don't worry about it buddy i got
you today's a good day so rather than try and combat the negativity you let them be angry and
then still give them positive you create a positivity mind virus. You spread the joy.
This guy who was angry at me, I could have been angry at him.
I could have said, you know what?
No tip for you because you were mean.
And then I'll say, get out of my, screw you.
And the next person who gets in that cab is going to be like, hi, I'm just getting off of work.
And he's like, I don't care.
Where are you going?
Dude, why are you mad at me?
Now that guy, the passenger is going to get angry.
I don't want to spread that mind, that evil, that anger, that rage.
I was like, this guy was mean to me. But
you know what? It's not about me. It's what the next person is going to get in this cab having
a bad day. So I want this guy to have a good day. I don't know why he's mad. Maybe something bad
happened to him. Maybe he lost his son. Maybe he stubbed his toe, whatever. Here's a good day for
you, buddy. I hope this changes things and makes you feel better. And now he has a good day and
he spreads that good day to others social media is full of negativity
mind viruses so i try very hard very often to have semi-neutral or just like non-direct tweets
at individuals i don't like tweeting at people saying very direct and harsh things i don't do
that because all it does is spread that mind virus and that's why when i had that moment with frank
luntz the pollster i simply asked him a question he snapped at me insulted me said i wasn't a
journalist i'm like dude what's with the hostility man i just
asked you a question like what's wrong with people dude twitter has created a negativity
demoralization hive mind that everyone is getting sucked into and it's making them nasty awful
people it's even bigger it's text communication that's confusing people i think well you know
energy is contagious and i'm surprised you don't know this Ian, or you don't have a T-shirt that says this.
Your vibe is your tribe.
So, you know, we see a lot of hippies saying this.
This is why I try to stay usually as stupid optimistically as I can because essentially it's a choice.
And at the end of the day, we all have a choice where we invest our energy and our mindset into. And what you bring up is critically
important because when faced with negativity, you could either be engulfed by it and represent it,
or you could choose to defeat it back with positivity. So I think the story that you
shared, I mean, you told me it before a couple of years ago. I think it's a very important one
that people should know about. Here's my advice to people. You're on Twitter. You're seeing people
tweet. Resist the urge at all costs to be mean to them if someone says something mean to you say
you know that you know i you know i would say i say to people online very often on facebook
in these arguments i'll say something and i'm never hostile i'll try and actually be accommodating
and when they start insulting attacking me i'll say i don't understand why you're being so mean
to me and you know this is what i said yesterday you read a super chat you were like it's a negative
one for you and do you want to hear it in retrospect maybe i'll say no don't understand why you're being so mean to me. And you know, yesterday you read a super chat. You were like, it's a negative one for you.
And do you want to hear it in retrospect?
Maybe I'll say no, don't publicize those.
But I had this urge to snap back and be, say something really mean.
And all that would have done is tainted the night.
And I didn't, I just held it in.
I got a lot of really nice comments today from people regarding that experience.
So there's another example of it.
Tim, what you're talking about is operating on a higher level of mindfulness, right? And
intentionality. And that's something that I want for everybody. Intentionality is a superpower
today. People who are conscious about where they put their attention, their focus, and their energy
are going to be more successful than people, happier, more successful than people who bob
along the currents, right? Most of our country is sick because they're
bobbing along the currents. They are fat and they listen to the current of the nutrition pyramid.
They're in debt because they listen to the currents of going to school. They're slaves
to a corporate wage job because they listen to mindfulness and intentionality are a superpower
today. Now I want to just share one story that is maybe a bright spot here. You know,
when I tweet about Antifa and conflict and riots, I get a ton of engagement, of course.
When I tweet about my nerdy philosophical stuff, I don't get as much engagement, but it's important to me, so I do.
But every so often I tweet about my kids and I tweet about being a father and stories of fatherhood and stories of my son becoming a man and the things that we've learned and taught
and his experiences. And I got to tell you of all the things that I've had go viral and everything.
It's the stories about my son growing up as a man that have done the best millions and millions and
millions of views tweeted all over like Africa. I had like princes in Africa, like responding,
like it just bonker town, millions and millions of views, famous, famous in my universe of snow shoveling threads and the baseball threads and things like
that. And even my pin tweet thread on my profile has been seen by millions of people. It's a crazy
story about positivity. And at the end, people sit there like cheering. So there is certainly
a vibe out there that you can latch into of positive energy, of growth.
There's a whole growth mindset Twitter out there.
I think perhaps the political sphere on Twitter is very nasty.
But there are subcultures and niches all across Twitter that are about positivity.
They're about mindfulness.
They're about parenting.
They're about your values.
They're about finding people that share your values.
So I agree.
I've seen it.
If I wanted to have 10,000 more followers, I'd tweet about riots in Antifa all day.
But truly, the stuff about my son generates the most positive energy, and it brings me the most joy as well.
And that's usually something that we don't see.
That's usually something that doesn't go viral.
But when it does, it's extremely powerful. And there's a residency.
There's something else more to it than just the plain kind of text out there.
And it's not just positivity.
One of the things that I really wanted to bring up is gratitude.
I've been doing a gratitude journal almost every day for eight years now.
I write down five things I'm always grateful for at the end of the day, right before I go to sleep, just so I could...
Hippies talk about manifestation, you know, a lot of work people talk about
creating, especially in the entrepreneur sphere, but reminding yourself, hey, we are extremely
lucky, we are extremely blessed, especially to live in the Western world, especially to,
I mean, if you make $30,000, you are pretty much the 1% of the world.
You are, yeah.
So when we look at it from that perspective, instead of the perspective of what we're lacking,
of what we don't have, we don't have the latest PlayStation 5, we don't have this.
This is the marketing schemes of these multinational corporations that use these psychological
tricks to make you feel empty, to make you feel sad.
There was also, you know, some of the things that I started bringing up and looking into
is just how they do it.
There was even specific restaurants that used to play sad music whenever they had a dip
in business because they knew people would get sad.
And what would they do?
They would stuff their miseries with a big cheeseburger in their face.
So these kind of psychological tricks are used on social media to extreme levels.
And I think this is why we are seeing depression, suicides, self-harm,
and all these negative mental health effects from social media that are utilizing this at a record
level and creating very severe consequences that we're going to have to deal with. That sadly,
there's no person that could speak out against it because the algorithm will downvote it because
the multinational corporations won't be making any money off of it. The the seth rogan aspect of the story is really the craziest thing to me
that you could be wildly successful funny guy on tv his movies are always a laugh and a hoot
and a good time i'm a big fan and then just see how like there's this weird i don't know
negativity possession of the man where he goes on twitter and he's just awful to people
it's like he's just so mean to negative comedy sometimes can sell if you say it in a sarcastic
way but it's when you're you're vibing you're you know your voice is vibrating the other people
but when you write it down forget about it that's not a joke he just said jonathan k you're i could
see his character in a movie being like you're stupid and you know like that and the audience
would be like oh yeah but it's not a
character it's him it's a human being it's a person it's a verified why why him being a jerk
why would someone who's so extremely wealthy who could who could do whatever and is so successful
just go on twitter and call insult someone like that well i think it's i mean tons of people do
it's not just him it's a good example that money and fame certainly don't ensure happiness and
contentment or gratitude or mindfulness or appreciation.
Luke, I want to go back to something that you said a minute ago about hippies talk about
manifestation.
Well, then call me a hippie, dude, because I believe in manifestation.
I believe in the power of personal narrative.
I believe that the story that you tell yourself can change the world around you.
It changes you.
It changes the way people perceive you.
It changes the opportunities that come your way.
It changes the way you perceive the universe and data and information.
And the stories that we tell ourselves are the most important thing that we have.
I live by one simple motto.
You are the imagination of yourself.
Yes.
I believe it was, who said that?
I think it was Bill Hicks.
Bill Hicks is the one who said it and explained it best.
But that is something that I keep reminding myself whenever I get too deep into the whole political sphere, whenever I get into a negative tailspin.
Lydia, you have something to say?
Yeah, so I was actually reading a book just a little while ago about stress by a lady named Kelly McGonigal.
She was talking about how stress will shorten your life, but only if you think that it's bad.
Only if you think that stress is bad will it literally
shorten your lifespan if you view it as a positive chance to develop yourself it will make you
stronger and better and actually live longer yeah and in retrospect a lot of the stuff that we're
arguing about and fighting about is absolutely petty it's absolutely pointless it absolutely
doesn't even add up an amount to anything is just's just a lot of egotistical, grand-dising, inward kind of thinking that doesn't really produce anything.
It just destroys.
Egotistical.
Yeah.
I said that.
I'm a Slavic person.
You better not correct me on my speech.
English is my second language.
And with my new designation, you better watch out, pal.
I get banned on Twitter.
So it's really important to understand about the counter-terror stuff that's coming and all the patriot act 3.0 and whatnot but but
personally i'm more inclined to be thinking about my values my personal values and finding other
people that share my personal values and then getting alignment i don't know if you have alignment
i have alignment i have alignment where my values my my mission, my actions, day to day, my purpose, everything
are perfect alignment.
I don't need motivation, man.
I am weightless.
I am invincible.
Your virtues.
I am drawn straight ahead across a frictionless surface towards my vision because I spent
years telling myself what it's going to be and where I'm going to go and dreaming about
it and constantly just shaping my reality in order to make it happen.
And now here I am.
Yes, the politics are important.
Yes, we have to pay attention.
Yes, bad things are coming.
But at the same time, it's more important than ever right now to find people who share
your values.
And that's what we're doing in the liminal order, man.
Masculinity, brotherhood, sovereignty.
Get people together who share your values.
Come check it out.
The liminal order for a second.
That's a company that you created people need to understand uh when when you're choosing
your direction when you're finding your destiny there have been many moments in my life where
there have been very obvious roadblocks that felt like if i go in this path i am literally trying
to push against a brick wall it's not going anywhere and there have been certain moments
where it just feels like you said jack gl, gliding across a frictionless surface. A lot of people might have trouble
figuring out how to get that path rolling. But I'll tell you this, when I first started doing
everything I was doing, I was homeless. You know, so so starting at Occupy Wall Street, I didn't
know where to live. I was sleeping in a park. And I just did what felt right to do and seemed to
just, I don't know, seem to be the thing to do. And it didn't make a lot of money. And then
eventually a little bit of money came in. And then i was sleeping on a guy's couch and then over time
it's not like one day i woke up and just signed a piece of paper saying i'm gonna start a big
business and do a podcast it's all just pieces that have been added to the you know it's like
building a lego it's like you a lego model whatever you're adding one piece every day
and eventually you have this big sculpture or as the statement uh the old ad goes, the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
You guys are talking about positivity and negativity and alignment.
I see this as like a physical phenomenon, literally.
Protons have positive energy.
Electrons have negative energy.
You have an electromagnetic field.
And when you can balance these energy forces with neutral energy coming from a neutron, it will literally elevate you magnetically off the earth.
You become less weighted down by thoughts and feelings,
which are like create packets of dark matter
that weigh you down your thoughts.
I also think about the liminal order.
I want to talk a little bit about positivity and negativity
because in science, protons are heavy.
Electrons are really light.
It's really easy to attract negative energy in science.
And I think also in life.
That's why it spreads like a virus.
It is.
It is.
It's hard for people to apologize.
It's hard for people to resist when someone's negative to you.
They immediately want to react and be negative back.
It's a process called runaway breakdown in science that is known for producing lightning.
You have a cloud of plasma of electrons and one will go and then all the other ones will
follow it.
And it creates this shock of negative energy.
Now, negative energy can also draw positive energy in and positive energy can bring negative
energy.
So there is balance.
And sometimes like when you go negative and start talking about the deep hate and the
negativity things, I want to become positive to balance it out.
There's that phenomenon too.
So if you're only positive,
you may end up running into trouble.
And so it is important to acknowledge these things as well.
What,
what I do with negative energy is jujitsu.
It meant when I got doxed,
when I got fired,
when I had my name tarnished and I went through all that and I lost my job and
income,
my reputation,
everything I had built for years,
you take all that negative energy and turn it around. And now I use all that attention and
all that momentum to build an organization, values-based organization, where men have come
together with people who share their common values to create that frictionless surface and alignment
and move towards your goals in a way that's basically effortless.
Let's talk about what's going on with, you mentioned the the cia the domestic terror stuff because we have this
actual big story from cnn canada will list the proud boys movement as a terrorist group that's
that's the gist of the story canada is now saying the proud boys are terrorists they say they'll be
deemed an ideologically motivated violent extremist group along with three others adam
waffen the base and the russian imperial, of which the Proud Boys don't necessarily belong in that group
at all. The government said in a news release, their violent actions and rhetoric are fueled by
white supremacy, anti-Semitism, racism, homophobia, Islamophobia, and misogyny. And unfortunately,
often in combination of all of the above, said public safety minister Bill Blair at a news
conference Wednesday.
I mean, it's just factually incorrect because, as everyone knows,
Eric E. Tardio was not a white man.
When asked about the new terrorist designation of the Proud Boys, for the Proud Boys,
Blair said the events of January 6th at the U.S. Capitol did initiate a political response in Canada, but that the decision was not political.
Quote, and as a disturbing and concerning as those images and those events were,
they also provided law enforcement and our intelligence services with a trove of new
information in which, quite frankly, many of these groups revealed themselves, said Blair,
adding that Canada's decision was based on evidence, intelligence, and law. My understanding,
Proud Boys don't really operate all that much in Canada. Isn't that true? I mean, I haven't seen
anything. I asked my audience today, like, what did the Proud Boys do in Canada? I mean, I haven't seen anything. I asked my audience today, like, what did the Proud Boys do in Canada?
I mean, I haven't seen any protests.
I haven't seen any attacks.
I haven't seen any actions or consequences that have led to any kind of human suffering.
And now, the article mentions three groups.
The Proud Boys are now listed also with Al-Qaeda, the Mujahideen, and ISIS.
So that's the designation that they give the Proud Boys.
And, you know, whatever you think about them, like them or hate them, I think this is a stretch to say the least. And it's a very
slippery slope because they're essentially saying that anyone could be a terrorist in the future.
Let's talk about what happens next. I'm not going to name any specific banks, but there are many
banks that are international banks. They operate in the United States. They're very large, some of
the biggest in the country, and they operate in Canada as well. Believe it or not, though, you though, for a lot of people who haven't traveled, there are a bunch of really crazy other – you go to another country and you'll see a bunch of different banks you never heard of.
I mean it should be obvious, but a lot of people are kind of surprised to see a bunch of weird banks they never heard of.
But in this current day and age, it's really interesting to see a lot of these banks, the same banks, exist in a bunch of other countries.
Let's say you've got some guy who's a proud boy in the United States, never been to a
rally, never been to an event, never been in a fight.
His bank calls him up and says, although in the United States, you have a right to free
speech and you have never been convicted of a crime or charged with a crime or even at
a rally in Canada, you are deemed a terrorist and we operate in Canada.
So we cannot provide financial
services to you lest the Canadian government come after us.
So now if there is a company that requires any kind of government certification or permitting
through Canada for their Canadian arm, they will come for you in the United States.
There are probably web services, especially that say, well, we operate in Canada as well,
like Facebook, for instance. What happens now? Well, Canada is going to well, we operate in Canada as well, like Facebook, for instance.
What happens now?
Well, Canada is going to say, we want you to ban all the terrorists.
You cannot have Facebook in our country if you host terrorism.
Well, now that the Proud Boys are terrorists, Facebook will be like, OK, what do we do?
Do we ban them all and then make it so that they're only banned in Canada?
So when they post things doesn't appear in Canada or does Facebook just start banning
them outright?
I'm pretty sure for the most part, they've all been banned anyway. But now we're going to start
seeing how in the US you may have rights, but thanks to the ever expanding international
corporate system and international free trade stuff, you can get some small island nation with
a decent amount of money and they could say whatever they want.
And then these big corporations, if it fits their fits the bill, they're going to be like,
OK, cool, ban them, get rid of them.
They're done.
So, yeah, sure.
You'll be allowed to live and function as you want.
But what about Visa and MasterCard?
Visa and MasterCard operate in Canada.
What if Canada says to them, you are providing financial services for a terrorist organization?
So then Visa and MasterCard in the United States tell the Proud Boys anybody's ever
been associated.
We're shutting you off from all credit card services.
That's it.
There's two companies.
Maybe go discover Amex, I guess.
But what happens when those companies say the same thing?
Because they operate internationally as well.
This designation is insane.
And we're going to start seeing just how bad
this whole domestic war on terror is going to get.
The babies are going to get thrown out
with the bathwater here. I mean, it's also important to remember, like if you read the front page of the
Washington Post last couple of days, it reads the copy reads as if there was a planned premeditated
like domestic terror attack, a revolutionary attack that was planned and implemented and
was successful and people are dead.
And this is what they really and truly believe.
In the minds of people like AOC, there was a bunch of six foot five super ripped dudes with night vision goggles and tactical gear storming in going, move, move, move now, pull
his office, run, run.
And then a bunch of cops came in and fought him.
And it was this great battle.
And then she's hiding in the bathroom.
And the guy bangs in our boom, boom, boom. Where is she. And then she's hiding in the bathroom, and the guy bangs the door. Boom, boom, boom.
Where is she?
And then she's like, what's happening?
It's a cop.
And he goes, get her out of here.
And she's like, oh, no, no.
And that's how they're framing it.
When in reality, it was a bunch of bewildered, bumbling fools, and the cops opened the door at one part.
There was the storming of the central door.
But the cops opened the door, and people are waving little flags and walking in.
And the cops are like, oh, that's your right to protest. One cop took a selfie with people.
In reality, there was also individuals that had jackets with their phone numbers on the back
because it was representing a construction company that they had. And I'm sorry, you know,
a lot of these maskless people, they're not criminal masterminds. They're not the sharpest
knives in the draw, especially when they have their phone number on the back of their jacket doing all of this or
when the guy takes the podium and then he smiles and waves to the camera there's no plan here but
we we all know this but the washington post puts it on the front page that there was a battle in
the capitol and people are dead and it was because we have terrorists in america so if you take that
as the base which is now history right right? I tweeted a poll today.
I said, who won the battle of narratives for January 6th?
The commies are the good guys.
80, 90% the commies.
Even our guys believe, right, that we lost the battle of the narrative for January 6th, which is going to go down for all of history, which is now going to be the linchpin in the Patriot Act stuff and the insurgents crackdown that's coming.
And there's going to be a lot of collateral damage.
And you know what?
People aren't going to care.
We have collateral damage.
Obama, Obama drops bombs on babies to get a terrorist.
And guess what people say?
Collateral damage, collateral damage.
I don't think that that's too far away from where we are here.
And I'm talking to John Robb next week, who is an amazing strategist, technologist.
He writes at the intersection of war and politics and technology.
He's been predicting this for some time.
He's been predicting the fact that there's going to be a corporate techno fascism rallying around an insurgency, counterinsurgency development in the united states to just use that as the tool
and the vehicle by which just clamp down on free speech human rights freedom association freedom
of movement all of the things that we hold dear as americans so really if you think about it
they're framing us as insurgents you know us maga right term right side people it's it's kind of
true because we're occupied we're occupied by people that don't
believe in the american spirit they don't believe in american history they want to change american
history they don't care about any of it what does second amendment say right to bear arms shall not
be infringed bear is it bear yeah keep and bear arms yeah what does it mean to bear arms open
carry and in how many states are you not allowed to open carry? So many, of course.
Right.
Yeah.
It's just the Constitution is completely meaningless.
It's gone.
I know it's gone.
It's going to get even worse.
It's going to get even worse.
And so-
You want to know what I'm looking forward to, though?
For the first time to see a Third Amendment lawsuit.
Oh, man.
What's that?
You got me on the third one.
You can't be quartered?
Oh, quartering.
No quartering in private homes of military.
That one's never going to happen.
It's just archaic. And it's really interesting that it military that one's never going to happen it's
just archaic and it's really interesting that it was a big deal back then and it's not really been
that big of a deal for us in modern times but all the rest of them especially the fourth the fifth
the first second they're all huge even the ninth the tenth i mean almost every amendment is i didn't
even remember the third one you brought it up just now i was like wait which one yep i love it yeah
yeah the soldiers can't be quartered in private homes yeah i could see like if there was an
uprising an armed uprising and then the people that were uprising would be like
we need to use your house we need to we need to use your house and that could be like a violation
of people's that was basically what it was you know back in the day the soldiers would be like
we're fighting a war and so the soldiers are coming in and we need a place to stay so we're
taking your home not that the government would do it but that our own people that were rising up to
protect us from the government would try and do it. But these are pretty scary times because we have thousands of troops inside of the U.S. Capitol.
We have politicians. We have the mainstream media cheering on the deep state arm of the
intelligence agencies, large unaccountable departments within our government that are
going after people for their speech, for their beliefs. and they're doing it more and more aggressively.
As we just learned that the FBI raided the house of rally organizers that organized a rally on the night before January 6th.
Now, CNN wrote a whole article about this, how this was justified because of their language.
But again, these people weren't charged.
They just had their doors busted down because they organized a political rally.
Now, I don't know exactly what these individuals said.
I don't even know who they are.
But this is, again, an FBI that has been mobilized and activated and is becoming more and more political.
When it came to individuals like Epstein, they sat on their hands.
They didn't do anything for over 30 years.
30 years. so many horrible crimes
are happening with that individual nothing but now you know we have this insurrection they're
mobilized they're activated they're putting up wanted posters all over the united oh my god
in every bus shelter in dc it's just all these pictures of guys in maga hats and just like do
you know these people all up and down my neighborhood, all over
the place. An additional scary
element to what's happening is not only
are they looking to prosecute people for
crimes today, not only are they
looking probably into the future to prosecute
people for anticipated crimes, they're going
back five years.
Going back five years to Ricky Vaughn
to get the guy for a meme. Now,
it's possible that it was actually illegal and you can't tell people the wrong way to vote and whatever.
But it was pretty bad what he did.
So this guy, he was like an S poster, I guess you want to call it, an ish poster.
And he had this – it was a viral meme that was going around that said – I don't necessarily think it's even fair to call it a meme for the most part.
I know a lot of people on the right have said that.
It was like vote early and vote by text.
Text this number.
Avoid the lines.
Yeah.
Avoid the lines.
Text this number.
And it said paid for by political candidate so and so or whatever.
So it was like you can call it you can say it was a joke and you can be like, haha, I'm going to share this.
So I don't think the guy deserves to go to prison for it.
Well, if he was trying to trick people into thinking that they'd voted that's pretty nasty federal absolutely yeah it's crime yep and it
said that was paid for by the candidate that's hard manipulation trump didn't prosecute the guy
so now five years later yes now hold on there's a bunch of people who did the same thing on the
other side identical there's a viral video of a woman putting on a hat and saying trump supporters
go you know go here to vote it was like totally fake so the issue is Trump didn't prosecute any of those people.
Now that the Democrats are in power, they're going after the people who went after them,
but not the people who did the same thing.
So the scariest thing is going to be the score settling, right?
They're going to want to settle the score.
And that means that a lot of people who thought that they were safe and a lot of people who
thought that they had gotten away with it may not.
Oh, they didn't.
No, I mean, it's going to get it's going to be it's going to be chaos.
Look, we've got permanent barbed wire fencing around the Capitol right now.
The Washington, D.C. is currently under occupation.
It is occupied by the National Guard.
And I'm not saying that to be bombastic.
Literally, 5000 National Guard will be permanently placed there.
So I'm sorry.
They're saying the green zone will be permanent i don't know how many troops will be
there but they're saying at least until march there's gonna be 5 000 national guardsmen you
don't think that i mean that is the central part of the iraqi strategy the green zone they've
established the green zone they're establishing their counterinsurgency network and pretty soon
we're going to start seeing quiet bribes for assassinations in the middle of the night and drone strikes i mean i'm exaggerating a little bit or am i i don't know how far are
they going to go people that we know they're rabid they don't care about reality they don't
care about the constitution they care about settling scores they can't even be happy mike
cernovich the other day was tweeting out he's like where is the jubilation from the democrats
yeah they won do you remember what it was like in
january of 2017 holy crap that's where i met you was at the deplorable too yeah like dude the energy
was insane everybody was ecstatic there's none of that none there's none of that because they're
negative nasty they're still crying yes they were so this is the crazy thing when when when trump won
many we saw the memes of these people dropping to their knees and crying and screaming and mourning.
And the Trump supporters were like, what?
They didn't think they were going to win in the first place.
So they're laughing and celebrate good times.
Come on.
All that good stuff.
Well, Joe Biden did that one at the, I can't think of the word, the DNC.
Convention.
At the convention when he was nominated.
But after Joe Biden won, they were still crying.
Yeah.
And I remember seeing, like, you mentioned Andrew Sullivan was, like, listening to Biden's speech and started crying.
Yeah.
And I'm like, they're still crying.
It's because they summoned a demon to destroy their enemy, and now the demon's president.
He's not a literal demon.
But it's like when you use something you hate to destroy something else you hate you're still gonna end up hating it no but but but they
like biden what i think happened is they're infected with a demoralization mind virus they
wanted trump out they didn't want biden can't let go of the hate and anger because it's not
it wasn't really about trump it was just they just Yeah. And so what happens now is they're redirecting
it towards this nebulous concept of Trumpism, which is meaningless. They're saying now they're
going to now they're saying, oh, Trumpism is the problem. And listen, you're you've got these
satellites orbiting this planet. Trump was that planet that was where all the media and all the
narrative and all the hit was orbiting. Now the planet's gone. There's nothing to orbit anymore. And so they're pointing at nothing. Trump so quickly disappeared from public, the public
spotlight, no social media. Haven't heard a word from the man outside of these vague statements
you get from the office of 45 emails he's sending out to people where it's like, here's my response
to impeachment. Yet they've still repeatedly done stories. The Daily Beast, this one journalist,
I'm not gonna say her name, ran a story saying trump lost the presidency and twitter guess which one hurt worse and i'm like
it's been two weeks trump it's been a longer than that since trump's got suspended from twitter okay
why are you still writing the same story you wrote a month ago they were all saying this they're
going to keep doing it because they just hate. They need something to hate. Trump is the
avatar of their hate, but he's gone now. So they just hate. Well, they're going to go after anything
and everything that they can. And to me, what you're saying was definitely exemplified by an
article that I saw from The Independent today that was titled Outrage as alleged Capitol rioter is
permitted vacation to Mexico ahead of trial.
And this whole article was doxing this lady who was, again, not convicted of a crime,
doesn't have a criminal record.
She had a work-related event that she needed to go to Mexico. And the judge said, sure, you could go to that.
That's not true.
What?
Never happened.
What do you mean?
News story broke.
And we saw a viral trend on Twitter, white privilege.
People were saying white privilege is this Capitol rioter saying that she wants to go
on vacation and the judge letting her do it.
Never happened.
The judge never issued an order saying she was allowed to go on vacation.
Ryan Riley of the Huffington Post issued an emergency correction saying everybody,
everybody.
It never happened.
It was a proposal, not an order.
And the media didn't fact check.
So they ran a fake story.
And then the independent media ran with it.
And then the independent ran with it.
And that's the information that I got from today.
I didn't see their correction.
I talked about it.
And I read the full article today.
This is what happens when you trust the mainstream media, Luke.
You got me.
I'm caught red-handed.
They all ran the story claiming that there know there was a one high profile left
wing commentator showed a picture of a black man at the riot who was denied bail and he says i
wonder what about this man resulted in him getting denied while this other story is breaking hmm
well the other story that's breaking is fake news more importantly this woman is being charged with
i think two misdemeanors disorderly conduct yes and entering you know restricted grounds apparently she didn't even go in the building and so she's getting a misdemeanors, disorderly conduct and entering restricted grounds.
Apparently she didn't even go in the building.
And so she's getting a misdemeanor charge, which I tell you, when she goes in there and they're like, did you go on the grounds?
I did, Your Honor.
And were you being disorderly?
Well, I disagree, but I accept the charges.
No contest, Your Honor.
The court is going to be like, okay, we're going to give you 20 hours of community service, court supervision, have a nice day.
That's the end of it.
She's going to go home and then forget it ever happened.
And then the mainstream media is going to freak out about
that and then also have another rage bait click about this but the larger point that i was trying
to make here is why is the independent media the independent concentrating on this lady why you
know it used to be where the media used to go up against special interest it used to go against
the powers that be it used to go up against actual people that actually mattered in your life and had
an effect on the way you lived your life they don't do that anymore it's it's this lady that you have
to be outraged about look at look at what happened in sweden i don't know if you know the story jack
but uh several years ago you know i went to sweden for this last night in sweden thing
and one of the biggest stories i discovered was that only a few months prior one of their biggest
newspapers hacked discus which is this commenting system people use yeah on various websites to to
dox anonymous commenters go to their homes and film them knock on the door when they come out
there's a camera in their face why did you say this disparaging comment about you know immigrants
or whatever some of the comments were innocuous saying i think sweden needs to take care of their
citizens and stop allocating tax funds towards people who don't live here and they're like why
are you racist?
These people got ambushed.
The question is, why was a newspaper hacking and doxing people and targeting individuals?
News organizations are supposed to be the necessary component of a true democratic government
or true government of the people.
They challenge the powers that be.
They write the things that people don't want to hear.
Instead, they write the thing that the tribalists love to hear as they burn the witch.
This is witch hunts.
They go after people for nasty opinions and they say, this woman, she walked on the Capitol.
Now we're seeing like anybody who was even in D.C. is being targeted.
Were you in D.C. while it was going down?
You're done.
They'll nuke you.
They'll ban you.
They'll fire you.
They'll come after you.
There was that one rapper guy who got dropped from his label simply for listening to trump speak and then leaving there's that one army psychological
operations officer who went down in a bus with some people saw trump speak and then left and
they are getting they're getting investigated there it's it's gonna get bad man i'll tell you
so i have a couple of things i want to throw out a question make comment we'll come back to the
question maybe do you think that they're going to under prosecute those crimes the ones
that the capital i think it's going to be that they are going i think they're going to look in
the book and try and take every possible technicality to make it sound worse than it is
and give them the highest maximum everything maximum penalty yeah that's that's a prosecution
but essentially it's still going to be up to the judge well i'll clarify my earlier point about the one in the misdemeanors
a normal person who receives misdemeanor gets a slap on the wrist in court supervision
this i do believe will be different because yeah i mean some misdemeanors are punishable
by like a thousand dollars in a year in jail yeah yeah uh anything more than a year i think
becomes felony yeah you know so so she she could get up to a year. I don't, I think she might.
And I think, you know, what did she do?
If you walked past the barrier, they're charging you with a crime for being at the Capitol.
That's it.
Yeah.
Two crimes, essentially.
So she could, I don't know.
I don't think she could get more than a year off misdemeanors.
But I think in this case, while these, you know, if you told me that someone was facing
a misdemeanor charge and they were given permission to go on vacation i'd be like and yeah right wait if someone's on
the capital property while it was being broken into they're getting charged not while i was
being broken into they set up barriers and if you walk past a barrier you get charged because the
barriers were set up right it was restricted access so what's interesting about the media
turning its attention away from the establishment and public figures towards individual citizens this is portending portending i think that's the word predicting the future
of our own apparatus the other big apparatus the government turning its attention onto the
civilians instead of on the citizens instead of on the big things that matter what is it what is
it about our time that's make the individual so dangerous that they
have to be squashed by the media controlled by the government corralled by a counterinsurgency
program within the united states they always are they are they feeling are they feeling vulnerable
they've always had control of the plebs since the beginning times there's always been an aristocracy
the greeks there's always been gods and men basically
and uh it's it's sad to say you know when you had this uh this this this government in the in in
london the king and all that stuff in parliament but the colonies were thousands of miles away
the influence was strained to the point where it snapped yeah and they could have listened to the
grievances of the colonists and it probably would
have averted the revolution but look at the declaration of independence they literally say
here are all the things we have tried petitioning and won't be resolved they're not listening to us
so then they declare independence all of a sudden the rabble snapped off the control from the
aristocracy and the lords but you know you know but let me just mention do you guys know that the
house of lords in the uk literally is just landed gentry and like religious high-ranking individuals they
literally like imagine if our senate was comprised of just uh you know super wealthy millionaires who
are politically you know had political access and were just essentially you know uh using corporate
money and influence and connections to get these political positions. It's as blatant as it gets, man.
Wait, is not that you're saying now?
No, no.
The point I'm making is when you look at the UK and you can see they have a house of lords, literally the lords who are making the laws.
And then you look at the United States.
We just call it by a different name and pretend it's not.
Yeah.
But it is.
Yeah.
And like when the founding fathers snapped off the rabble and made the US, then they just broke up the rabble into the gods of the rabble and the men of the rabble.
It's true.
The initial strategy, constitutional plan for senators was that the state legislatures
would appoint their senators to the federal Senate.
That way, they literally said, better men would be the ones having these conversations.
I think about this a lot because humans are animals.
I've talked about this consistently.
And uneducated people
are essentially wild animals.
If you're born in the woods
and you aren't socialized properly,
you're going to act like a wolf.
So what?
Are we supposed to herd the sheep
and have a group of shepherds
that lead and control things?
And people are vying
to become one of the shepherds?
Look, hierarchies exist all over nature and for a reason.
Lobsters.
For a reason.
Yeah.
JBP and all that.
Yes, yes.
No, but here's the issue.
The answer is yes.
The problem is meritocracy is the right way.
People who have earned the respect and earned the right and genuinely care for the flock.
The problem now is we don't have sheepdogs and sheep.
We have wolves pretending to be the sheepdogs and then mutilating the sheep.
So people that are born into money.
Not necessarily.
No.
I mean, AOC wasn't necessarily born into money.
I mean, relative to the world, she was.
And I think to a certain degree, she was like middle class.
So she wasn't poor by any stretch of the imagination.
But look what she does to empower herself at the expense of others the capital rights are all about her now and she'll make up this crazy story
and and embellish and exaggerate to gain power i don't even think she was always like that i think
that power can corrupt you and make you selfish i mean we don't know her you didn't you didn't
know her back then you didn't see what she was saying back then so we just don't know we just
see her for what she does now it feels like the system to me that we that to me that the system that we have today specifically selects for people who are
selfish inward thinking manipulative control freaks it does not select for genuine but generous
kind outward loving people so the issue is it is interesting in the old lordships, at least I guess you had a chance of having a certain amount of the lords actually care about being true statesmen and helping their countrymen and being a good person. it seems much more likely that the people who will get there are the sociopaths who will claw their way to the top.
Whereas if you appoint people by random, you'd more likely get altruistic individuals.
I don't think so because when you would have landlords and they would pass –
they'd have a child and the child would just be a groveling idiot.
They'd get the entire land and then they'd become the controller.
But the landlord's knight, the great noble knight who raised their child
to be this phenomenal human would be a commoner
and serve this idiot landlord's son.
Mathematically, if to become a lord,
you must manipulate, lie, cheat, and steal
to gain political prominence and to gain attention,
it is more likely that a good, honorable, noble citizen
will not do what needs to be done to win that office.
However, if you have a whole bunch of lords, a bunch of them are probably going to be the worst of the worst.
But you might at least get one or two where they're like, I'm going to do my best for my people.
Now, I'm not an advocate of that system.
I'm just pointing out how kind of hilarious it is that we've tried to build this system that would be better for, by, and of the people.
And essentially now, a couple hundred years later, it is just – it's just term up does it maybe we just need term limits what but
i i always know that's not the problem i always enjoy this discussion where we're like what if
we just took somebody by lottery and put them in charge we would do better let's think about this
for a second though random people who win the lottery what is our general sense of how they handle
that newfound sense of wealth and power?
They blow it.
They usually screw it up real bad.
That's how it used to be.
You have the stats on you?
I read a bit about it, actually, yeah.
So in the late 90s,
there were a lot of shows that came out
talking about people who blew their lottery winnings
and how more money, more problems.
And their families started hating them.
And then the money ran out.
They didn't know what to do with it.
They didn't know where to put it.
Well, once those stories started coming out, people in the past couple of decades have consulted wealth management firms and have done a very good job of managing the new lottery winnings.
Yeah, and there was one story I read where a guy won like $100-something million or something like that.
Maybe it was like $70.
And then he set aside how much he needed based on wealth management advice to put away to be retired
and be wealthy for the rest of his life and then he started writing checks to people who asked
people would send him letters saying any money for this and he'd be like the internet it has
been kind of a great equalizer when it comes to education and controlling money is a is an acquired
ability so that's kind of nice but the idea of demarchy isn't that we would create a government
of only randomly chosen people.
It's that you would have multiple layers, much like we do now with the Senate, with the representatives.
And then maybe what we need is a fourth branch, which would be the demarchic.
Yeah, the national initiative.
Have you guys studied this?
Mike Gravel was trying to this this national initiative branch of government that would be people just common people that could
then pass right and pass but it would have to be demarcate it would have to be that one day you
walk to your mailbox and you're like i got chosen like jury duty exactly and it would be for like a
month and then they would set you up it would be you'd be accommodated you'd be compensated
and there would have to be protections where you can't get fired from your job if you were selected for i would love to start pushing something like this
because the national initiative is not going to get passed by congress according to mike revell
and it would be something that the citizens would have to pass 51 of us would have to come together
and make this happen by what is that called when you get people just to do something by decree
basically the the mass majority it's not it's not it's not a grand solution though a bunch of
you know if you take a random person,
if we brought a random person to this room right now...
The way it's built, it's not random.
I'm talking about Demarchia.
That's what we were talking about.
If you brought a random person out
and asked them about any of this,
they would have no idea.
I wouldn't want a random person.
Well, so I don't know what you're talking about.
We were literally...
We're talking about random people.
We're having a conversation.
This has been thought of before tonight.
It's called the National Initiative.
You're not having the same conversation as we are.
You're talking about putting random people in charge.
It's insane.
Ian, please, please.
Okay, tell me how it's great.
Jack Murphy brought up demarchy.
And then you brought up a fourth branch of government.
A demarchic branch of government in response to what Jack Murphy is talking about.
I don't think random people is the right way to do it.
So that's the conversation.
I don't know if, Jack, you're making a comment about demarchy.
Yeah, you know know it's interesting we trust a jury of 12 to decide life or death on a random basis well we
don't trust a judge you make a random guy you make the case you got to go to school to be a judge you
got which is why there's multiple government you don't have one juror you have a group of juries
that basically and the judge can overturn the jury no No, they can't. They can overturn the jury or they can give instructions.
So yes, they can.
No.
You just said, no, they can't.
They can.
I was actually saying a sentence, Ian.
Or they can give instructions.
Yeah.
I said they can overrule the jury or give instructions in certain circumstances.
But you jumped in before I finished the sentence.
What's the circumstance that they couldn't?
If the jury comes out and says, we find the defendant not guilty, the judge says, well, so be it. It was a jury trial. He
doesn't then go, no, I reject. Now, there are certain circumstances where judges have actually
done this and it results in crazy constitutional crises and lawsuits where judges have been like,
I don't care what the jury said. Lock him up. Contempt of court. Yeah. Legally, they're allowed
to do that. They're not. That's what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to keep the
jury in check, basically, by giving instructions like disregard that that's against the rules not by i'm shutting the jury
down because they ruled in a way i don't like they're not so it's it's very dictatorial to do
the idea is what if instead of you know when people run for congress they need a ton of money
it's very difficult they need popularity aoc manages this by being bombastic and being a
sensational character she raises millions of dollars across the nation. And to be completely honest, there are a lot of politicians
who raise money outside of this country, which is illegal, and they do it through nonprofits and
circuitous means. But AOC is not doing that. I'm not saying she does. But she raises money all over
the country for her one district because she's prominent. That makes it impossible for someone
to run against her because of her profile. So you have the Senate, which is mostly millionaires.
I'm pretty sure they're all millionaires.
I think they all are not.
Actually, no, I think there's a few that make like that are worth like half a million dollars.
But it's very difficult to win a state to be a senator to work to run in Congress.
It's not as hard because you're in a smaller area.
It's easier to go around and talk to people, but you still need a ton of money.
So the idea of demarchy, just as, you know as Jack was bringing up, not as a necessarily good thing,
because you were critical of it and people how they spend their money in the lottery,
would be the idea that we would try and take random, regular people without the restrictions
of not having enough money or not being a political insider and giving them a chance to sit
down, go over these bills for a short period of time, and then weigh in on it. Regular people,
not special political elites
who are allowed to bear arms when we're not not people who have connections to big industry or
massive twitter profiles where they can fundraise off of a regular guy who is is you know he's a
tradesman of some sort or a woman who's a homemaker for that for that matter or a business woman
finally now going to the table and and and you know once in a while having kind of jury duty
like system but like like truly random?
Like anyone could be?
Within like a certain age range.
Like 18 or over.
It would be like jury duty.
What if you get like a bunch of mentally unstable people, though, that don't want to be there?
Are they human beings?
Yeah.
Do they have rights?
Yeah.
Can they vote?
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
But I don't think I want them passing laws.
It wouldn't be like 10 people.
It would be like 500 or 1,000.
So, Ian, you've already begun to reestablish the hierarchy.
Yeah.
Some people, I mean, I'm honest.
IQ is a thing.
And we measure that kind of ability to calculate and to think.
Hierarchies are good.
But the only way they work is if it works for everyone involved in the hierarchy.
That's why when you lead, you have to be a servant.
You have to be a servant leader.
You have to be, how can I help the people that I'm leading?
How can I help the people that are following me?
And I take the same approach on my Twitter profile,
on my Twitter page.
I'm like, guys, get out of Washington, D.C.
Nothing bad is going to happen right now.
Please stay in the suburbs.
Don't come to the city.
Don't do this.
I'm trying to help people.
Maybe Demarchy is the way to go.
If it's temporary. Just another branch. It's like you get a get a month it's like a jury or maybe even a couple weeks and what happens is you have a thousand maybe even three thousand people
are randomly chosen once a month and then their travel is paid for they come to you know this big
you know auditorium like room where they're given a packet of information to read through and then
cast their votes on certain issues.
And it's just another layer that provides regular people the chance to come and have their voice heard.
And then their votes were all public and they go back, you know, a month later and people
who live near them know what they voted for.
And they say, you voted to take my money with that tax increase.
Are you nuts?
And so then people are concerned.
Am I going to defy the will of my neighbors by voting for the special interests no way i'm only here for a month it's not and and
maybe not even a month maybe it's like for specific votes i don't exactly know if it's a good idea or
i'm saying i'm not saying it will work i'm saying it's an interesting there's something good about
term limits that's for sure because you know you're not there to win people's favor and stay
in office you're just there to do the job it it, there's still a lot of arguments for and against term limits.
It's just,
you know,
I think the problems we face are not so easily solved.
And it's interesting,
you know,
I was having this conversation the other day.
I can't remember what movie we were watching.
It was about something about air conditioning.
And I was just like,
isn't it crazy that like,
there's a lot of people who have a general concept of how air conditioning
works.
And if they went back hundreds of years,
they could describe it to someone and probably make some kind of rudimentary air conditioner of some
sort. Maybe not hundreds of years. You'd still need some kind of electricity or some kind of,
you know, pressurization system. But as just a layman right now, as some random person,
you can be like, I know how to make a bow and arrow under the general concept.
Whereas at a certain point, it took like some genius guy, hard work, and 10 years to be
like, I finally figured out how to make a compound bow. But now we just take all this information
for granted. We just know these things. So anyway, I digress. It's just I find it fascinating
that we actually know so much about so many different things. And then I don't know if the
solution is going to be demarche. It's just an interesting concept we're bringing up.
What I'm trying to say is the solution may be simple in 100 years, but right now we are fighting as hard as possible to figure out what that methodology or technology will be.
Is the United States government in a necessarily more precarious or nefarious or dangerous circumstance than it has been at any other time in its history?
I think the answer is yes.
This is the most critical, crucial...
I didn't say the most.
Oh, that was my question.
Or like, is this just the natural state of our republic?
That's what I'm really getting at.
I think, as we've heard from many scholars, there has not been a tumultuous time like
this, save the Civil War. Yeah, world war one was pretty rough i think well we heard it was putin i think
said what the world is going through right now is much like pre-world war ii yeah he said that a few
days ago and we have to understand on the historical context having things like the first
amendment the second amendment They are extremely rare circumstances
where people are able to have these amazing God-giving rights that usually, typically,
all throughout history are usually taken away from them because of big government. So
the fact that these important freedoms are under threat right now is something that should be
concerning everyone. I think it's also interesting to consider the context,
the context that our government is in,
that we're all in, in 2021.
I mean, it's novel every year because things always change,
but this is radically different.
With the technology, social media communications,
the complete just flattening of the globe, et cetera,
this is a novel laboratory in which to test the republic
i'm feeling desperate like i snapped to anger 10 minutes ago because i'm feeling this is like
freaking me out this is like people are getting arrested it's not it it's not a joke you know
this is if it's really like pre-world world war, that's terrifying. We're the smartest military?
Look, people – I think this is actually funny, but people are comparing January 6th to the burning of the Reichstag.
Like this is their pretext for the Enabling Act.
And this is what – It wasn't the Enabling Act, though, was it?
Yeah.
Was the burning of the Reichstag the Enabling Act?
Yeah.
Hitler used –
I believe so.
So the Reichstag burned down the capital of the German parliament, and then Hitler blamed it on the communists.
And then he used that as pretext to declare the Enabling Act, take everyone's weapons, disarm the population.
I had a tweet earlier today on this subject.
Where's the best place for a forever war but at home?
It's easy.
It's here.
It's right here.
I'm saying forever war in america we love forever
war oh right the best place for a forever war is right here at home you don't have to travel you
don't send people abroad you got the addresses and social security numbers of everybody that
you want to prosecute and terrorize forever war at home and especially if it's combined with the
long night of tyranny from the corporate techno-fascism that we are now under.
If they get the AI and they get everything that they want, it could be a switch that is flipped that cannot be unturned.
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It's been very hard.
Jack's turning red.
It's been very hard.
You saw me.
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He almost said it.
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Almost said it.
Almost said it. Let's read some of these super chats all right we got uh i'm not your buddy guy
says not really important or related but i just got into this show called the expanse on amazon
prime you gotta check it out i tried dude everybody says it's amazing i tried the first two episodes
and i was just like this is boring as paint what really i thought it was great what's the synopsis
just i'm not big on tv shows as it is did you did you go through this i watched like i think like the first season i think man
and then i don't know like i watched half of the mandalorian and i was enjoying it but i just don't
watch tv oh dude mandalorian got real good you got the second season the second half of the second
season was like sensational goosebumps changed my whole like childhood arc in my mind i don't want to give
too much away but they they did write a new star wars chapter at the end of that with some very
important characters if you want to watch i think they've just beaten star wars like a dead horse
just like just beating it over and over again i agree but i think mandalorian is very very well
done and it's the same guy that uh you know the uh avengers stuff yeah yeah yeah no i
liked it i liked the first season yeah the expanse of that was cool it's like basically you notice
about ian no they like humans have colonized mars and the asteroid belt and you know i think the
moons of like jupiter saturn or something and so the people who live in the in the belt are all
like really tall and lanky and like frail because there's no gravity and then mars like broke away
and became their own government they declared independence and now it's a very militarized
society because it was the military colony that declared independence so it's like yeah i thought
it was cool show well you know a show that i everybody also loved that i tried that i absolutely
hated cobra kai why did people tell me that this was going to be a good show you didn't like cobra
kai oh my god the first one was so bad.
What?
I thought it was fun.
I'm not going to pretend like it was the greatest.
It's meant to be campy.
Yeah.
It's meant to be super campy.
It's mocking Karate Kid.
It's supposed to be silly.
It's mocking its own origin story.
Yes.
Do you know how this show came to be?
No, but I mean, it's the same characters and the same actors. there was a viral meme explaining how the karate kid was the bad guy it was like this
viral video or something where they were like think about it and it was someone justifying how
the bad guy was actually the good guy like you're some dude who's been training your whole life and
like this kid comes in as an illegal kick and then they incorporated that actually as the pretext for
the show cobra kai yeah and i thought it was. I haven't watched second season or anything like that.
But we got to read more Super Chats.
I'm just talking about our TV shows that we like.
Let's see.
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Denman Fight says, F in the chat for the boys who missed the guerrillionaire train buying
stonks.
Stay awesome, IRL crew.
I'm not entirely sure the whole thing's over.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Cody Emin says, did you all see Tucker Carlson was on Dancing with the Stars to appreciate
all of your work for everyone?
Wait.
He was?
He was?
He was?
I didn't see that.
I don't know about that.
Move it.
Apache Shepherd says, would you kindly read this super chat i felt compelled to do that for some reason i don't
understand persuasion no do you know the references oh no uh bioshock oh okay yeah the first game you
you got to play bioshock yeah i played the original yeah if it's like it's it's it's they
used einrand atlas shrugged as kind of like an artistic pretext and like ideological.
Beautiful.
But spoiler alert for this like what 20-something year old game.
Whenever someone says to the main character, would you kindly?
He's compelled to do it.
Yeah.
So it's like he's being manipulated.
Dude, Bioshock is awesome.
And then Bioshock 2 is okay.
Bioshock Infinite is pretty good.
But Bioshock 1 is awesome.
Bioshock is great.
Good game. Now we're talking about video games andck 1 is awesome. Bioshock's great. Good game.
Now we're talking about video games and TV shows. Great.
Alright, let's see what we got here.
Petty says, reminder that Cuomo killed
more people than 9-11, and that the first
shots fired at Fort Sumter were fired
by a tax ship. Also, Biden's
amnesty plan is tantamount to slavery.
Yeah. What's his
amnesty plan? I gotta read into it.
Student of History says says happy to know
that uh happy to happy to know that now they're agreeing with hitler's opinion that slavs aren't
white now i'm waiting for the answers on the mediterranean race spanish and italians clarifying
this is a joke a good lord well we now have uh uh you know for for a while this show was was was
led by a minority but then i found found out that Asian people were white.
So I'm actually double white, which makes me more white than both Jack and Ian and Lydia.
But now that Luke's a person of color, we're good.
We're good.
We have diversity back in the show.
You know, this is a serious question, actually.
I have a chapter in my book called What is White Anyway?
And Democrat and deplorable.
What is white anyway?
That's a real question.
And when did everybody become all white and why well so this is actually one of the progressives talking points that white
wasn't always italian and it was not right right and and and then it changes and so that's why they
say whiteness isn't about the color of your skin it's about a social construct of the the majority
controlling or oppressive class that's how they kind of deviated or whatever.
I see.
Yeah, whatever.
Sounds legit.
All right, Jay says,
just got to ask,
are you guys going to talk about the real controversy,
like the farmer revolt going on in India right now?
I've been looking into it.
I just don't know enough about what's going on with India.
I know that they want to ban cryptocurrency too,
but there's like a farmer revolt.
So like some big news.
Yeah, some things I just, if I don. So like some, some big news. Yeah.
Some things I just,
if I don't know enough about,
we don't,
we don't get into block 47 says I've heard several different explanations of
what QAnon is.
Every source seems to have their own take and I can't seem to make full
sense of it.
What is QAnon and what do they believe?
Yeesh.
What QAnon believes is not a thing you can pin down or who or what it is.
Right.
It seems like it was co-opted.
Like maybe someone in intelligence started it off.
Started with 4chan.
Was it 8chan or 4chan posts?
Was it 8chan?
I think it was 8chan posts where someone's saying Q and then asking these questions.
And then the narrative emerged this individual had Q clearance, which my understanding is not a real thing.
But it was supposed to be like high-level clearance.
And they were secretly working with Trump to go after hillary i i didn't know too
much about it for a long time and i kind of just disregarded it because it was like kind of fringe
but then once it started to become more prominent with the media and asking trump you know i looked
up more about it and started reading more about it and it's just it's just on on it's ridiculous
i i've got some people who keep saying over and over again that like tomorrow's the day trump's
gonna pull it off tomorrow's the day.
And I'm like, dude, Trump's not the president.
He's gone.
Trust the plan.
And now they're saying March is the real inauguration date because America was incorporated.
And it's like, did you read the history of how they changed the date of inauguration and all this stuff?
It's like, dude, QAnon is squarely anti-trump squarely anti-maga it siphoned off positive maga energy
into a destructive downward spiral that led to january 6th and now will usher in
the tyranny yep of the 21st century so thank you q anon there we go thanks a lot mark hicks says
a shout out to for congressman devin nunes he exposed the russia hoax and the criminals
responsible those responsible have been punished with one instance of probation for falsifying documents
submitted to the FISA court.
There you go.
Count Ludwig says, I am looking to invest in crypto, but I have limited understanding
of them.
What's the favorite cryptocurrency of Tim and all his co-hosts and guests who are invested
in cryptos and why?
I cannot give you financial advice and I am a moron.
Don't listen to me.
That being said, I was told by Bill Ottman of Mines, a good friend of mine.
They co-founded Mines together.
He was on the show, and he said Ethereum.
I think he said it on the show.
I don't know if he did.
Ethereum was undervalued.
And I said, I'm going to buy some then.
I bought Ethereum, and now it's at $1,600.
He was correct.
All-time high.
So at the time when Bill said to buy, it was at $1,000.
And that's at an all-time high.
It may have gone down a little bit.
But let me tell you something.
Bitcoin is a store of value.
First in best dressed.
That's how we explain Bitcoin.
It was the first crypto.
It was the most.
It is and now has always been the most prominent crypto.
So it has been the go-to choice for people who wanted to hold a digital asset that cannot
be copied.
However, what can Bitcoin really do?
It does have some technology behind it.
It can execute some kind of smart contracts, but it's fairly rudimentary.
Ethereum, in my opinion, should be worth more than Bitcoin.
You know why?
We'll use Mines, for example.
Mines offers tokens.
The tokens are ERCc20 tokens right so that
means they're basically tokens that exist within ethereum well within the ethereum blockchain yes
the ethereum blockchain is different than the ethereum token and the ethereum token exists
on an erc20 blockchain so the the general idea is ethereum actually is a component of many businesses many many businesses and it
is required for them to continue function functioning uh if they if they're using the
ethereum blockchain bitcoin isn't being used by businesses except for a store of value and that's
because it's actually cheaper to trade ethereum than to trade bitcoin that's a big part of it
so i'll tell you this i think ethereum is going to eventually be worth way, way more. Yeah. It was when in the early days when Bitcoin was
$20,000, I think Ethereum was like 12. So if you look at that ratio, now you're looking at Bitcoin
at 37. It's almost double. Ethereum is not double 12 yet. And it probably will. Maybe one way to
look at it is that Bitcoin is gold. They say it's digital gold, right? So you can hold it and it's
very valuable and it will continue to be valuable and probably will always be particularly valuable
but ethereum is more like a material that you need for your for your business maybe like
copper wiring or something it's a it's it's a metal and you forged you need it to actually
run your business so people can start buying way more ethereum and using ethereum way more because
it's a it's a it's an infrastructure asset for your company what do you i kind of i agree with
you ethereum is my top one right now i also like polka dot it's not um right now it's not considered
uh security so it's not traded in the united states but it allows interoperability between
blockchains so it'll allow that's big yeah it's huge yeah And it's like the fourth most valuable one right now in the world.
Yeah.
What do you guys think about it?
Where are you guys at on that?
Not financial advice.
I'm really, really stupid.
But I see a lot of promise and a lot of talk about Monero
and its capabilities that a lot of people are flocking to.
Because it doesn't publicly track what you trade.
No.
Well, let's move on.
Lydia loves Bitcoin, by the way, and cryptocurrency.
Did you have something to say, Jack?
No, I really don't.
I can't add to this conversation at all.
I started buying Bitcoin first in 2011.
Lucky.
I don't know anything else about it.
There you go.
Bwee says, what's up from Oklahoma?
The truth tastes good.
Thank you guys for what you do.
Well, we try.
All right.
Azazel the Fallen says, AOC is a sociopath in the same vein as Hillary.
Remember her story about sniper fire?
I'm not being facetious.
She is literally a sociopath.
I mean, I think I said the same thing, so.
No.
Mr. Hunt, first name Michael, says, we are in an information war.
They lie, cheat, and steal.
We must fight back.
The truth matters.
And if it's an information war, then you win by bringing out good information.
Control your personal narrative.
Correct.
Vince Stark says,
AOC is the inverse of Trump.
She has a fan base,
she has a populist agenda,
and she uses social media
to fire her base.
AOC is not based,
she's a leftist populist shill.
Interesting.
Sir Patrick the Great says,
You guys gather the best.
I used to be way far right,
but as I got older,
I realized who cares.
But for real, I'm libertarian with a right pole.
Y'all stay safe and much love from Texas.
Appreciate it.
Dalimar says you wonder why the cop might have been pissed.
He got sent there to collect her because she wasn't doing the protocol, answering text
calls.
And I'll bet the staff played games with him at the door.
There it is.
Is that confirmed?
Is that why she mentioned that she didn't go to the extraction point because she was scared of the other Congress people.
So then they call this cop saying.
That's why he was angry.
Yep.
AOC is not following protocol.
She's not going to the extraction location.
Can you go and get her?
And then he's like, there's a riot going on.
People are freaking out.
And she's not following protocol.
Come on, lady.
Let's go.
I'm going to get in trouble.
You're going to get us killed.
Dude, I have been. Oh, man. it you want to know what anger feels like i've done not not only have i done
hostile environment training okay i think it was silly because i grew up on the south side of
chicago i don't need training for that i lived it but i have been in say ferguson's a good example
i'm in ferguson gun ring out. I hit the deck.
I look to my right.
My filmer producer who's with me hits the ground before.
I look to my right.
He's already on the ground.
I'm like, good man.
I look to my left and there's this journalist for one company going, looking around, just,
those fireworks?
And I'm like, oh, dude.
Well, look, you know what?
I wasn't working with the guy.
So I'm not really all that frustrated.
But I am just kind of like, dude, are you insane? You have no idea what you're doing. You are going
to get yourself killed. And there was another moment where I was in a particular situation
and someone I was working with and gunshots rang out and I hit the deck along with literally
everyone else around us. But this one person that was sent to work with me was standing around
camera, uh, you know, filming, just being like like it's fireworks and i'm like okay now you're going to get me killed so i can understand why that cop
was probably mad yeah i was like i'm going to have to now risk my neck running into this building
because she wouldn't get out when she was told to and then she changed the story why wouldn't
the cop tell us okay sure i'm sure she has a reputation too yep yep she hates cops she
rags on them she She supports the riots.
And he's like, I got to go.
This is nuts.
Let's see.
West Side Power Sports C.D.
Parts says, hey, Tim, the videos behind the paywall are pure gold.
The way you use your F-bombs is so poetic.
I peed myself a little when Ian was talking about his current dating situation.
Absolutely epic.
Dude.
Apparently some ladies.
Dating during COVID is a pain pain that's the brief yeah uh for those that aren't familiar if you go to timcast.com and
check out our members only content ian basically broke down and was like i know it has made it
impossible to date yes and then luke was like are there any ladies out there luke's got my i'm
cupid i'm literally cupid he's been keeping tabs. We're working the system.
All right.
Worm says, take the stimulus cash and stay gold, gang.
We the people will jettison you into a billion-dollar empire to join the ranks of Elon Musk and
based individualist bad A's of the people.
More power to you.
Yeah, I think that's true.
And I want to really decentralize the internet.
I think that's kind of the direction we're heading.
It's pretty exciting.
Did we talk about... Oh, we didn't talk about this live,
so I'll keep it relatively vague. The general idea that I had was to,
instead of trying to create a new social network, that's like some kind of Patreon system,
it's about creating a white label software that anyone, I think I talked about this on the show
last week or something, a white label software that's open source that anybody could just
install on their server and then drag and drop some logos and then have their own version of Patreon that they control with their own merchant account.
People sign up, but this software can connect and network to anyone else using the software.
So if someone says, I demand that you ban this person, hey, man,
they're running their own server and their own node.
I can't control that.
But it does connect with my node so people can cross comment.
Yeah, there's a program called Riot, which is use the matrix protocol.
And it looks like that might be the future of decentralized messaging.
It's kind of like Discord, but an open source version of it.
Imagine like Patreon, though, with subscribers free and paid.
And then if like you go to like Ian's, you know, Ian's world, whatever.
And then you're like watching Ian talk about, you know ian's world whatever and then you're like watching ian talk about you
know dmt and time and whatever you can also click the community tab and it'll show you the community
of all of the the noted networks that are popping up we're also individually controlled not by any
one ian has no control over them building an ai that can like watch video and tell you like
like you take a picture of this gorilla and then it'll search all the videos on the network and
find like what is this gorilla i'll tell you about it like the videos on the network and find like, what is this gorilla?
I'll tell you about it, like kind of like a wiki, but through video.
All right, let's see what we got.
Let's do another super chat.
Pops Vindaloo says, Luke, thinking about starting the RV life.
Any suggestions on where to look for an affordable RV?
Usually different marketplaces. I really, really don't like Facebook, but they have a marketplace.
Craigslist is also really good. Being able to do research on your RV, what you specifically need is crucially important.
There's a lot of lemons out there. There's a lot of water damage out there you got to be careful
of. And it really took me a long time to make sure I got something good. I got a good deal on it.
And a lot of the dealerships, a lot of the big ones, they're just like car dealerships.
So you know what you're getting yourself into when you're dealing with car dealerships.
But just keep an eye out.
Look at marketplaces.
Look at individual sales.
Those usually are the best ones.
Greg McCormick says, Tim, Rashida Tlaib only opposed spending bill because money was being sent to Israel.
She has been consistently anti-Semitic.
This wasn't a coincidence.
Peace.
Love the show.
Well, I hear you.
I do.
It's an issue of AOC's support for the corporate establishment machine, just blindly voting for Pelosi, blindly supporting these bills.
And I can absolutely disagree with Rashida Tlaib.
But that's the point I was making.
I really do disagree with her on basically everything.
But the way I framed it was I think AOC is lying, and I think Richard Atalay genuinely believes the things she's saying.
And that's the difference.
So not someone I would vote for, but I understand – like I think she actually believes this stuff.
I don't think AOC believes what she's saying.
When she first got elected, she changed her opinions on a bunch of things and got criticized by the left for it.
You can respect authenticity.
Exactly.
Even if you don't agree.
Even if you think it's wrong and bad.
Yeah, I like authentic.
All right.
Gabriel Nester says, Tim, I'm a history teacher in California.
Needless to say, I'm looking for different things.
I'm 29.
You inspired me to make a mini YouTube documentary on hyperbole in the media.
Super excited to release.
Cool.
Glad to hear it.
Congratulations. Good luck with that, dude. United We to release. Cool. Glad to hear it. Congratulations.
Good luck with that, dude.
United We Stand says, please contact your house rep about HR 127.
Stand up for our rights.
Right to bear arms.
Right to privacy.
Join Tim's website.
That last one was really great.
Sensational.
Yeah, but HR 127 is insane.
I don't think it'll pass.
Are you familiar with this?
I am not.
It basically says you can't buy a gun unless you're 21.
You got to get liability insurance. You got to get licensed by the attorney general it's like
a whole bunch of crazy mandatory psych evaluations banning 50 bmgs every every gun is registered and
taxed so it's like it's hardcore but it's unconstitutional in a very obvious way the
problem is keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Yet many places have already
violated that. And there's no, there's no, no one's going to like nothing to be done about it.
So don't underestimate it. Make sure you speak out against these things. You know, I think it's,
it's, it's a pretty extreme bill. Javi J says, question, I am a Slovak, Jewish, Japanese,
Mexican. Does that make me neutral on the oppression scale? I am so confused. Oh, no, no, no. You're super oppressed.
The Asian kind of negates it a little bit, but
you're more oppressed than you are
an oppressor. The Asian makes you more white, though,
so I think you're still technically white.
And you know where the word Slav comes from?
Slave.
They were the slaves.
Is that it? I think that's where the word slave
comes from. I thought it was the other way around.
Yeah, it's the other way around. Like slave comes from the word Slavic.
From the word Slavic.
There were so many of them.
You're not a slave, Luke.
You're a free man.
How dare you insult my people?
Oh, that was a double negative.
What have I done?
All right, here we go.
Christoph Westrom says, keep up the great work, Tim.
Ian, be my shaman.
I want to try DMT.
I am a gorilla Yankee in the holler on YouTube.
Just started.
Don't judge me yet.
Harumph.
Very cool.
I will say I saw the prototype of the new shirt coming out.
I posted an image on Instagram, but that is not the image of the shirt.
And I'll send it to you.
It's someone else.
It's very cool.
Our designer was like, Ian doesn't like my design.
No, I love her design.
Yeah, it's very cool.
Ian floating.
Shamanism.
It says free the code. I'm going to get one design. Yeah. It's very cool. Ian floating. Shamanism. It says free the code.
I'm going to get one immediately.
Yeah.
K.T.
Rouge says, please try to get Dave Chappelle, please.
Yes, I will.
I'll go outside as soon as the show shows over and wait for a shooting star to wish
that Dave Chappelle will come on this show.
I love that Dave and Joe and Elon are all friends hanging out in Austin.
I don't think Dave lives in Austin.
Rogan, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. And there's like pictures of them at the comedy club hanging out in Austin. I don't think Dave lives in Austin. Rogan,
Joe Rogan and Elon Musk.
Yeah. I'm talking about.
And there's like pictures of them at the comedy club hanging out.
Yeah.
They're all friends now.
They're doing a tour or they're doing shows together.
Chappelle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dave is,
I think it's fair to say the greatest comedian of our generation.
A hundred percent from,
from my hometown,
from my neighborhood,
went to high school with people that I know.
He came up in the DC comedy clubs. He's a DC product. He's smart, funny, hysterical, an amazing storyteller. He makes the craft look effortless. I love that guy. he did the the like the old school offensive chinese stereotype thing and uh it was it it was
like it was bold it was meant to trigger it was he was he was literally trying to trigger a sense
like people's like you know pc sensibilities and i respect them for doing it and i'm part asian i
thought it was fantastic he makes the rounds though he doesn't just stop on one and if you
get everybody then it's okay.
Like South Park.
His bid on the Kung Flu was really good.
Yeah, that was good.
Trump's not supposed to be funny?
He's not supposed to do that?
The Kung Flu.
Oh, no.
It's offensive.
Am I allowed to say these things because I'm part Asian?
There was a funny video.
It's from College Humor.
And there's a panel of full Asian, half Asian, and quarter Asian judging people who are part Asian on what they're allowed to do or not do.
And it was really, really funny.
So it's like this guy comes up and he's like, I'm one-eighth Asian.
Am I allowed to use chopsticks to eat my food?
And then the panel discusses.
You've got to watch it.
It's funny.
Then there's like at the end, a guy walks in who's like white.
And he goes, my great-great-grandfather was black. all the judges go you're black so it was like but it was college
humor it was a really funny because it is a funny take on you know the pc politics of like when
you're part asian what constitutes actually having the right to make offensive jokes or whatever
tim i'll allow it okay okay cool but you were not the same race so you're not allowed to make fun
of asian no no no no but but i'm a you know person of color yeah you're you're not you're like white now same
so no joke yes the heck just happened what the heck you know what interestingly though it is a
good point are you mad no no that my people are finally getting justice from all the horrible
servitude all the horrible barriers that are in front of the polish people the nazis the communists
don't make me go off here about the plight of the polish people and what we have to
go here and you're mad and you're mad that we're finally getting our reparations no no i'm happy
let me tell you a story i have a ukrainian friend and uh she was telling me that's really really
difficult to come to the united states and she's a feminist leftist in ukraine and so i try explaining
to her what's going on with critical race theory in American culture
and feminism.
And she's confused.
She says, like, you know, I have friends who say that you are far right.
And I was like, you've known me for how many years?
Is that true?
And she goes, no, it makes no sense.
And I was like, let me explain to you, like, American feminism.
And so we started talking about, you know, she wants to come to the United States, but
it's very difficult.
I said, well, have you tried explaining to them that you are white?
And she laughed and said, my white privilege ends at the cover of my passport.
Ukraine, you're not, you don't have privilege.
So is Ukrainian Slavic?
It is?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's an interesting point.
Like, I always bring up to people when I'm like, if you think there's white privilege,
let me pay for your flight to the Ukraine, you know, or I shouldn't say the Ukraine,
it's just Ukraine now. But let me pay for your flight and you Ukraine. Or I shouldn't say the Ukraine. It's just Ukraine now.
But let me pay for your flight and you can go hang out there.
Some of these people make $100 a month.
I think the average income, the average salary for middle class people is like $400 a month.
Not privileged.
All right.
Let's read.
We got Adam Davidson saying, Tim, on Seth Rogen note, check out his hilarious interaction with the great Gad Saad.
Hasht hashtag toasters
oh there you go joey jk pitt says your cab ride story reminds me of multiple times with my job
dealing with customer service i tell work tow workers to kill them with kindness yeah an annual
read it says i love you ian i love when you all talk metaphysics and the occult yes yes yes
oh well thank you oh my god this is awesome, says Ian is science.
Well, here we go.
That's a little extreme.
I don't know if I'd go that far.
Wendy Gusset says,
in a naked baked bean wrestling match between Ian and Tim,
who do the team think would win and why?
Well, what are the baked beans?
What are the rules?
What are the baked beans?
Black beans?
Are we talking?
Yeah, yeah.
I have long fingernails.
Tim doesn't have hair to pull.
I don't know.
It could get dirty.
I can kick really, really well.
Tim's fast.
He's like stabby.
Yeah, he is.
You've got to be careful.
All right.
Do you want to read this one?
That's facetiously mean, Ian?
Yeah.
You gave me two good ones, Celeste.
John Smith says, Ian has the memory of an elephant and the critical thinking skills of a potato.
I think elephants have a good memory.
They have the best memory.
Yeah. So that's why
I was like facetiously. That's odd because I would have
flipped it around. I think
my thinking skills are better, but my memory
sometimes is like a potato.
A potato! Yeah, there you go.
BN says, I'm
free-spirited and can't be tamed. Please legislate my speech and control what ideas I'm able to hear, think, and share. Yeah, there you go. BN says, I'm free spirited and can't be tamed. Please legislate my speech and control what ideas I'm able to hear.
Think and share.
Yeah, boy.
You got it.
Martin Edgar says, Trump is the new Pluto.
What does that mean?
Oh, the planet that doesn't exist.
Oh, yeah.
Chris Hill brings up a really good point.
He says, they did celebrate winning on November 7th.
There was a mob at the White House playing YMCA to mock Trump's last rally, and they
were all jumping in the street and swinging champagne and stuff but then after that it got really
mournful you know what i mean it's like a weird now they're all angry and like what have we done
what have we done the journalists were freaking out they're they i don't know what they're gonna
do trumpism nice try prod chacho says hey irl gang gang, what's y'all favorite donut? Glazed?
Glazed?
That's your answer?
I would agree, actually.
What do you think, Luke?
Glazed, yeah.
Jelly?
Jelly?
Jelly?
I like cake guys.
I'm going glazed with the chocolate icing.
Tim made some glazed kind of donut-y.
Oh, that's right.
They had that awesome glaze on them.
It was like a cinnamon glaze.
That was really good.
It was brown sugar, cinnamon, vanilla, a little bit of peanut oil some heavy cream and then we bet you know we we cooked it
oh we have a deep fryer on the way yeah we have deeper and then we made these these deep fried
little discs they were like donuts and then we just tossed them in this glaze and uh people
went nuts did you get one of those home fryers about yay big because i got one of those yeah
you it's too small after a while you
just you try doing wings you're doing like 35 batches i'm ready to get a commercial size fryer
i'm down full size just give me 50 wings at once yes all right ravine pain says raven pain sorry
so i really want to know is luke single dibs and amc plus gme diamond hands to the moon also need some
sort of video where everyone is high as hell the whole time like ian is i really want to see where
things go maybe the tables turn that'd be funny we could either take acid or dmt tim doesn't like
what it's already legal stuff no i'm saying i don't do drugs let's get stoned and talk about
whatever i think youtube will take that down, won't they?
For sure.
Yeah, we'd have to put it on the private thing.
No, I'm just kidding.
That phase of my life is over.
So Richard Cook says,
UK House of Lords has many political appointees, not just landed gentry.
They are appointed by the government on the day for life, like SCOTUS.
Interesting.
Grant Thompson says,
If you're not bringing up HR 127, you are woefully not paying attention.
Browse it.
Look for the punishment for not being licensed.
If you are going to allow this to happen,
then you accept your chains.
We talked about this.
Yep.
Promise.
McGuffin says,
Ian's wrong all the time,
60% of the time.
JK, man, you're good peeps.
Might have to cancel you for grabbing women, though.
Luke's a great addition.
Thank you.
I never grabbed a woman.
Don't do it.
Yeah, what is that?
What was that about?
Well, you made a statement earlier, and I was like, that's when you get tasered, Ian.
Advice for young people that are looking to get into relationships.
And when you meet someone, be willing to offer to shake their hand.
I found that just making some sort of physical contact when you first meet someone really
kind of breaks a barrier, and it makes it easier to get to know them.
Mind-blowing, dude.
We should make this a custom.
I know.
It's crazy to think that we have to continuously teach the young people the things that we
think are common.
Oh, I see.
I see.
It's true.
Yeah.
Especially with COVID.
It's why I thought about doing porn because I want to show people how to have sex.
You're going to teach people how to make love.
Yeah. What better way? All right. Mike mike e says can you deep fry with vinegar i know someone with 25 gallons of it right who that would be get me in touch with
oh that is a good use of the beans thinking about it now i just ordered a bunch more oil
wrestling or whatever it was. Music DC guy
one says, being how Ian has his
view on everything is energy, I would love
to take him on a paranormal investigation.
We should bring Tim
too. We talk and watch those ghost
shows from time to time and kind of laugh about them.
It's so obviously fake.
I love watching them though because it's funny.
It's funny and they know it's funny.
You've been doing this for 10 years.
You've been to thousands of different haunted houses.
And you're still scared when someone goes, what's that?
What's that?
Oh, I hear noise.
Oh, dude.
And then they all run out of the building and they're like, oh, and they're filming themselves freaking out.
But there's something we're talking about the Higgs field last night and the God particle, the Higgs boson.
And that there's this field where it seems like energy is like cracking and turning into matter.
So, you know, if we can develop the right sensors, maybe we need to do more shows, actually.
So as we expand Timcast.com, we're planning on actually doing other sites as well.
And I think we, you know, we talked about this for a while.
I actually did a couple episodes.
Cassandra wrote one episode for us.
It was like a 10 or 15 minute long podcast edited with music.
And it was about the hauntings of Disney, of Disney World, I think. And like people see Walt
Disney like walking around and like appearing in a window and creepy stuff like that. So we've done
a couple of those and they were huge successes, you know. So we definitely want to do weird,
wild paranormal conspiracy. And I think we just got to do new shows for it. And I'm totally down
to do it and uh i
think it'll be coming soon probably because i don't see why not maybe like a weekend thing you
know we'll see that being said i think uh we're going to move now to the members only content so
go to timcast.com and once we wrap up here we're going to then record the segment so usually around
maybe like 11 it will be up and it should be an interesting discussion around – I think we're going to be talking about critical race theory.
Luke is now a newly defined person of color, and there's some stuff around this that we'll get into.
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Liminal Order is awesome.
Thank you.
I know you guys are blowing up, and I want to just really shout out the Liminal Order.
That's such a cool opportunity to be around you while you're building that.
Thank you very much.
Yeah,
man.
It's mutual.
And you guys can follow me at Ian Crossland on the internet.
I'm building up my Twitch channel right now.
I'm going Twitch partner,
the road to prosperity.
Thanks.
And I am sour patch lids.
I am at sour patch lids on Twitter and minds and then real sour patch lids on
Instagram and gab.
I remember this time.
Good for me.
The next segment will be at TimCast.com.
Thank you all so much for hanging out.
And we will see you all there.
Bye, guys. Thank you. Thank you.