Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #219 - Navy Patents "UFO" Fusion Energy And Reality Bending Tech w/AlienScientist

Episode Date: February 9, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia sit down with the Alien Scientist Jeremy Rys to discuss the recent patent on alien fusion technology, Bob Lazar's story (is it real?), how ideology overruns the search for tr...uth and becomes a religion, and the General Motors streetcar conspiracy. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The U.S. Navy apparently patented, or this doctor patented, what they call UFO fusion energy. And there's also technology that can engineer the fabric of reality. Now, we did a bonus segment over at TimCast.com talking about this for members only. But we do have someone here who can help talk to us about some of this tech, some of what the government has done. And so we'll get into a lot of this. There's a lot of interesting questions about how it is that someone comes out and claims they have, say, potentially warp drive like, you know, sci-fi technology. And it could be really simple. It could be the US government stole it. And now they're putting it out there as if they did invent it. And that's why we're getting this
Starting point is 00:00:40 breakthrough. It's just leaking of enemy technology. Well, in this vein, there is a new Cold War. Now, I kind of wish there was. I'm kind of just framing it that way. But the U.S. is interested in super soldiers. There was a program where they're working on exosuits, Iron Man suits. And as we know, because this news broke a few months ago, China has actually been genetically engineering people to make them super soldiers. Now, these are very serious topics. And we have some less serious topics we'll talk about
Starting point is 00:01:08 later tonight, and some kind of messed up stuff. There's another big breaking story where some kid apparently was doing a prank. I'm doing air quotes right now, for those that can't see, where he walked up to a bunch of people with butcher knives in Nashville. And do you have any idea what happened? Yeah, the dude pulled out his gun and fatally shot the kid because you don't approach someone with a butcher knife. So we'll definitely talk about this and a bunch of other crazy stories. We are being joined today by none other than the alien scientist. Mr. Alien Scientist, do you want to introduce yourself?
Starting point is 00:01:37 Yeah, my name is Jeremy, and Jeremy Riss, and I'm from Mansfield, Mass. I grew up in southeastern Massachusetts. I lived in Boston for a couple of years and now I'm kind of living in Rhode Island. What do you do? You were talking to us about crazy technology. You named 15 elements in a row just for me to like prove you knew your elements. Right.
Starting point is 00:01:57 So I got a degree in physics. I went to a state university in Massachusetts and I've always been interested in science since like I was in high school. I think I read you know, State University in Massachusetts. And I've always been interested in science since like I was in high school. I think I read a book by Richard Feynman called Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman. And Mr. Feynman is Richard Feynman was like probably one of the greatest physicists ever. He was recruited out of MIT at age 18 to go work on the Manhattan Project. So it got me really interested in physics and classified programs and classified physics research and just the idea that there's smart people out there
Starting point is 00:02:30 that know stuff that other people don't. So not only do you have a general understanding of a lot of these stories about government tech, you also seem to be well-versed in some of the more crazy out-there conspiracies too. But you seem to be a bit of a skeptic on that, I guess. You want proof? Everyone likes conspiracy theories, but I, I guess. You want proof. Everyone likes conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:02:46 But, you know, I like conspiracy facts. I like proof. You know, I think that there's some value in, you know, looking at alternative history and alternative ways of looking at our world around us. And I think we, you know, need to be open-minded, but also use, you know, the right tools and have the right tools. But it will be fun to talk about the really kooky conspiracies too, just because they're fun to think about. So we'll do that. We'll do that. Yes. And how I think we can use science to kind of crack through the layers.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Right on, right on. We're also joined by the intrepid t-shirt salesman, Luke Gorkowski. Thank you very much. The term CIA, by the way, was also something fomented by the central intelligence agency term cia uh sorry the term conspiracy sorry the term conspiracy theory and theorist was fomented by of course the central intelligence agency why would they departed me that yes why would they do that right after the jfk assassination the cia i'm just saying it's you know conspiracy fact which i'm very happy we're talking about also with the latest
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Starting point is 00:04:30 Eight years later, it's nearly $50,000. So shout out, Max. Has there ever been a global commodity that's expanded like that? I mean, it's a new technology. It's being rapidly adopted. So we're going to get into all that Bitcoin stuff too. But Ian. Thanks. That reminds me. I just shout it hey everybody hi ian crossland you know me and the crypto market's up like 270 billion dollars in the last five days or something
Starting point is 00:04:55 something i don't know if it's elon's um super bowl push i heard he did a dogecoin commercial for the super bowl i don't know did he No. Because that was just speculation. No, he just tweeted it. Yeah. Wow. He tweeted that picture of him as that Lion King character holding up Simba. And it's him holding up Doge. Oh. And he was like, you're welcome.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm super happy Jeremy's here because there's a lot of complicated technology we talk about on the show from time to time. And I feel like we can only get so far without actually being scientists. So it's nice to have a scientist in the house. Well, we also have had a bunch of these stories come out, like in December, the super soldiers in China, the genetic engineering. And then we had the story last week where we ended up doing this members-only segment about UFOs and this technology.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And so we'll bring in somebody who looks into this a bit more. So Ian's here. We also have Sarpatch Lids pressing all the buttons. I am producing over in the corner, pushing buttons. And of course, before we get into that news, head over to TimCast.com to become a member. And we have a bunch of members-only posts. Now, I got to shout something out. There are people who have commented on these posts saying, why would I become a member when I've already watched this for free?
Starting point is 00:06:00 These are exclusive members-only posts. So the videos that are up in the members only section, you can only watch if you're a member on the website or I guess a hacker who's stolen the videos, but good for you if you figured it out, I guess. Please don't. But yeah, if you become a member at Timcast, we have exclusive bonus segments.
Starting point is 00:06:15 We're definitely gonna have one later tonight. And we set this up as a shield, a safety net. The purge is real. It's here. They're getting rid of tons of channels. They're nuking people who talk about certain issues. Certainly, we talk about issues that YouTube doesn't like, and we try and make sure we do it in a way where we can kind of get around what they want to – they want to nuke you,
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Starting point is 00:06:57 we want we don't we don't want to force yourself no we want we want real people to engage so love life let's let's check out this story. So we have this update from Forbes. What is behind the U.S. Navy's UFO fusion energy patent? Now, I think when they say UFO and they show pictures, they're just marketing it. It's brand marketing. And we used a very similar photo because it's the only way to basically say like, hey, here's this technology. It's most reminiscent of UFOs. But you got to understand a lot of this talk about UFOs is old talk.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So what's this new tech? Forbes writes, when Dr. Salvatore Cesar Paez, an aerospace engineer at the Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division, filed a patent for a plasma compression fusion device in 2019. It was either a giant breakthrough or mad science. According to the patent application, the miniature device could contain and sustain fusion reactions capable of generating power in the gigawatt, one billion watts or two terawatt, one trillion watts range or more. A large coal plant or midsize nuclear power reactor, by comparison, produces energy in the one to two gigawatt range. The revolutionary invention by Dr. Paez, if real,
Starting point is 00:08:10 would produce near unlimited clean energy from something no larger than a sports utility vehicle. Dr. Paez's fusion device is among a handful of outlandish technologies dubbed the UFO patents that have in some shape or form been pursued by the U.S. Navy. They're going to mention that this guy says he's written before with some skepticism over Dr. Paez's purported compact fusion reactor. The physicist appears to have bona fide credentials, including a Ph.D. from Carnegie Mellon, and published some of his work, while much is presumably classified.
Starting point is 00:08:43 He's been employed by the Pentagon for decades, and this isn't the first patent filed in his name. And all of them appear centered around what he calls the Paez effect. Dr. Paez posits that by controlling the accelerated spin or vibration of electrically charged matter, high-energy electromagnetic fields can be produced. One proposed use for such fields is an electromagnetic field generator device, which would be applied to alter the trajectory of Earth bound asteroids over a period of time. While the patent makes clear that such a device would work only on small asteroids of under roughly 100 meters in length or less, it isn't hard to grasp the interest of any defense
Starting point is 00:09:20 agency in providing contingencies for such a scenario. They say his internal inertial mass reduction device is one of the most extraordinary patents. This technology suggests manipulation of quantum field fluctuations, which could reduce a vehicle's inertial and gravitational mass, allowing it to travel at hitherto unseen speeds. The reason the speed of light is something of a universal speed limit is that mass increases to infinite as one reaches it, demanding infinite energy to continue moving.
Starting point is 00:09:51 The ability to reduce mass could have incredible implications for the futures of space travel. Only faster than light speeds of travel would allow humanity to venture outside the solar system. They're going to mention
Starting point is 00:10:04 it's got a high temperature superconductor, and last but not least, a high-frequency gravitational wave generator. Now, all this sounds like magic, to be completely honest. I'm going to read through this, and it just sounds like science fiction. But this guy's got legit credentials. And what other critics have pointed out is, in order to actually get the patents there has to be a prototype so in some fashion this guy's had to have proved he's got this technology so what does this mean are we looking at the greatest scientific mind of our generation or is this just some crackpot who made a bunch of crappy patents and then for some reason someone's rubber stamped them i don't know jeremy so it says right in there in the article by by's Tyler Rogoway and Brett Tingley of thedrive.com.
Starting point is 00:10:49 They've been doing a lot of great reporting on some of these technologies that are being declassified and stuff. This one's of particular interest. The thing about the Pays thing, right, is what really confuses me is that I they i know they've spent more than five hundred thousand dollars investigating this that you know they spent 500 million to build a rail gun for the navy um if they're really interested in this technology they're going to be spending more than a half a million 500 million for a rail gun yes that's what the rail gun that's what the rail guns cost yeah but is that just like the government wastes money all the time? You know, it's hard to say because it's either government is very wasteful, as we've seen with NASA.
Starting point is 00:11:35 They're buying their rockets from SpaceX because the private industry does it cheaper. So there's that. But there's also the issue of subject matter experts. This is how DARPA tends to do things. I was just reading the book downstairs on the brain, you know, Pentagon's brain, which is DARPA. And the way they do things is they get subject matter experts or people who are looking into these kinds of things, and then they give them funding for their research. And that's how these projects are picked up. They find guys like Pais who write. He wrote his thesis on this very interesting thesis paper on bubble
Starting point is 00:12:05 reactions and, you know, his theory of warping space-time, and so they funded him. But I know that this is not the only research that's been done in this. The research on this goes back to the mid-1990s to a guy named Bernard Heche, who worked at Caltech University, and he had a contract with Lockheed Martin, Skunk Works, and wrote a bunch of papers with Hal Puthoff and a number of other gentlemen back in the late mid-90s on this sort of space-time metric warping theory of inertia and of what mass is and how to get mass and momentum and how to alter those things using refractive indexes of materials and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:12:47 So there's been some research going on to this that goes back quite a ways that's less talked about than sort of this stuff. So let's just get to the brass tacks. Is this real? Do you think it's real? Well, I don't know that if it was real, the U.S. Navy wouldn't put their goods right out there for us to see. They wouldn't just patent it.
Starting point is 00:13:06 In fact, they might change a couple things in the patent to make the technology inoperable or not give out secrets. We have to look at that part where it said they got the patents granted through warning of similar Chinese advances. And when we look at those similar Chinese advances, I sent you guys two papers in particular on that list that I sent you to two of the papers that are written by Chinese universities and a lot of Chinese researchers on this. And it's related to what are called optical phenomena and squeezed states. So they take a parametric generator, they oscillate it at twice the resonant frequency, and it creates these squeezed states. You've got to slow down for me. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:13:52 So this is – what it means is that if we take a photon plus a photon, the Feynman diagram for that, it annihilates, and that's where we get our graviton from. So we know that gravity is an interaction of photons and the way that photons interact with matter. And that they're trying to change this through a warping of the refractive index of light around these materials. So they're trying to make stuff float? Apparently they can make stuff float. And then there's rumors that this was reverse engineered from alien technology, that the US Navy has had kind of this technology for years. They didn't know how it worked because it's operating on quantum principles and quantum mechanics.
Starting point is 00:14:33 It's not easy. We can't see it. We can't see it. I want to say something. I was reading once about UFO technology and about what would happen if humans actually discovered a flying saucer in like the 50s. Right. would happen if humans actually discovered a flying saucer in like the 50s right and they said if you gave i don't know why they chose this guy christopher columbus a nuclear submarine and infinite resources they would never figure out how to reproduce it it's an iphone in rome yeah the same idea i remember hearing that kind of conversation on the joe rogan podcast with bob
Starting point is 00:14:59 lazar and he was specifically talking about some of the technological advancements that we're kind of hinting at here. And what you said, I was actually thinking, not the smart part, but the part specifically about if the U.S. government had such technology, why would they release it to the public? It would be counterintuitive for them to do this, especially if they had something that was advanced, good, useful, I think this most likely, in my own personal opinion, is a part of either one, a larger sigh up against countries like China, against countries like Russia, or two, a larger call for other scientists to come in and say, hey, we're working on this. This is what we got. What does the scientific community think about this? What's the reaction? Can anyone help us build this because that's essentially where they want to go in my opinion this new kind of star wars kind of like uh powers and authority whether it's light
Starting point is 00:15:51 speed or lightsabers whatever it is we have space especially what they're talking about well they're talking about uh we don't sword fight anymore luke uh well maybe uh you never know with technological advancements we can't even conceive where their future is going to go just like christopher columbus couldn't utilize a nuclear submarine it's the idea of a cell phone in rome yeah but they wouldn't be able to so so if you had a lightsaber and someone else had a glock just shoot the guy well the bullets maybe maybe the lightsaber deflects get out maybe it's a lightsaber shield uh again we're talking about a lot of hypothetical stuff. But when you look at the U.S. military, they're usually far more advanced than, of course, technology that we know of. And they don't release it.
Starting point is 00:16:31 They keep it as close to them as they can because they use it for war. Sort of the military. It's like higher tier classified stuff. But I'll mention there's a funny scene in the movie The Men Who Stare at Goats. So Luke mentioned The Men Who Stare at Goats. And then I ended up watching the movie, which is more of a comedy than anything but there's a funny scene where there's like one dude is talking to his commanding officer and he's like we we need to start a psychological or a psychic spy unit and he's like why and he's like well no no what
Starting point is 00:16:58 he said was russia has started doing paranormal research and psychic spying and he's like why because of our attempted our attempts to telepathically telepathically communicate with a submarine and then he was like why did we attempt to telepathically communicate the submarine we didn't it was a rumor created by the french but the russians think it's real and i think the story that it's fake is a is a lie so they started doing it so now we need to start doing it to counter them because they think we're doing it so now we're actually going to do it and then that's the joke of the movie i guess and it's not even the military it's a lot of contractors now so when you look at you know the military industrial complex that is the pretty
Starting point is 00:17:31 much the key of private enterprise that's working in a quasi government way just like the federal reserve is working with all the big banks in this kind of quasi way but but in reality you know there's also fears of a lot of this technology being leaked a lot of this technology being being sold to the highest bidder, especially when it's just in contractors' hands. And there were fears of that in the Manhattan Project, too. But now a 12-year-old can go and look up how to make an atomic bomb. That doesn't mean they can have one, though. Yes, of course. Why can't he?
Starting point is 00:17:58 Because you need 300,000 people. You need Oak Ridge. You need a uranium refinery or plant. You need Oak Ridge. You need a uranium refinery or plant. You need resources. And the way that the Manhattan Project came about, they had hundreds of thousands of people working on it. And only, I believe, a dozen people knew what was happening there. A lot of people are saying, you know, conspiracies aren't true. But if you look at the way the Manhattan Project, which, by the way, was also forged at the Bohemian Grove,
Starting point is 00:18:25 the way that was kind of created with so many people involved, all these people, majority of people not knowing what they were working on and building this nuclear weapon. And we have to understand we're moving towards a new technological era where we're building something that's going to be way more powerful than nuclear weapons, that's going to have way more severe of an impact, and the implications
Starting point is 00:18:41 here are severe to say the least. When you're talking about refractive index, action, so talking about the warp drive, what they're building, would you call it a warp drive? Well, that's what I'm talking about. Warp drive is a good word for it, but it's kind of like Star Trek-y. Some people call it anti-gravity. So I'm working with a group right now to try to bring these scientists out and bring more information out of the woodwork on this. Because we look at what's in the public sphere. We got Sal Pays and him talking about these U.S. Navy patents.
Starting point is 00:19:09 But I know for a fact that there is more research that's been done into this. And I have a huge list of scientists' names who have worked on all kinds of this stuff. So what we've done is we've kind of created our conference. We actually got a hold of all these email lists. I've been tracking down these people for the past decade and following a lot of their work because this is what I've been into is all this type of research. You know, where does DARPA go to recruit their next projects out of? They go to these conferences where these PhDs and these scientists go and present ideas, and then they pick the best ones to fund. And so I've kind of like gone over a lot of that research. And we got actually all those DARPA email lists. And we just emailed all those people and we invited them to our own conference.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And we started our own conference. This guy, Tim Ventura, AmericanAntigravity.com out in California, he kind of got me into researching antigravity back in like 2002. And now we're working together to try to we have a conference where we're actually bringing people out of the woodwork to come and talk about what they worked on, because most of it's declassified now, or it's becoming so out there and well known. And it has such great implications for the whole future of our planet that, you know, more people are coming out with it. You mentioned something interesting before we started the show, that you have this guy,
Starting point is 00:20:24 Dr. Pace, or Pius, or however you pronounce it, that he's got a bunch of patents that are kind of all over the place. Like an individual would focus on one specific thing, but he's got a bunch of different things, right? Right. So we consult subject matter experts, because the information is too voluminous for any one person to have just massive knowledge of all this stuff. So we consult like people who are really into a certain subject. But the fact that he published a nuclear reactor and this space-time warping thing, condensed matter physics and nuclear physics, it kind of gives a hint that it might be technology that the U.S. Navy got through espionage. Or some other way, right?
Starting point is 00:20:58 That they have a secret program building it and they're using Pius as like the, not the fall guy, but basically the patent funnel. Leaking it out. Yeah. building it and they're using pi s is like the not the fall guy but basically the patent funnel leaking it out yeah i i would imagine that if this was developed by u.s science of some sort they no longer need it they've developed something substantially more powerful and now they're like okay let's give it to the civilians and then see what they do with it and then you know they'll ramp up production and they'll fix things or whatever using the patent itself could we replicate um if you're saying change the refractive index, from what I understand, we talked earlier, is you have a material like a spacecraft hull.
Starting point is 00:21:29 You hit it with acoustic vibration, and then you hit it with a laser to change the refractive index of the material. There's a lot of different experiments we're trying and a lot of different theories. The problem is that we have almost too many theories at this point about how it works. And we're at this kind of standstill in physics where we're working with these quantum gravity researchers, guys who are trying to work on unifying general relativity and quantum field theory to create a theory of everything, essentially, like Stephen Wolfram is doing and some of these other guys, Garrett Lisi and
Starting point is 00:22:00 Eric Weinstein. Like those guys are doing. Eric Weinstein's working on this? Yeah, he's geometric unity theory, right? Really? I've heard that. I didn't know that. He presented a whole thing to the Royal Society on this. I had no idea. He's had numerous talks with Garrett Lee.
Starting point is 00:22:16 There's a recent one on dark... Are we talking about Brett Weinstein's brother? Yeah. Wow. He's big into... I'll come up with the word earlier. Polytopes. And it's like subtle geometries that make up the core of our universe.
Starting point is 00:22:29 You could look up Coxeter-Dinkin diagrams if you want to get into some of this stuff. Or polyhedra. Polyhedral combinatorics. It's ways that shapes and different types of polygons and things fit together. It's like the subtle, innate geometry. And they found that when they build this puzzle of it, they create this thing that looks very much like particle physics and mimics a lot of these things. But they haven't put all the pieces together yet. But I want to say that when we do, when we do have a theory of everything, we're going to have
Starting point is 00:22:58 anti-gravity. We're going to be able to understand exactly how gravity works. And so we're going to be able to... But a theory of everything, wouldn't that allow us to basically build anything like if we understand how everything works we'll know the confines of the universe we'll be able to just start and that's the thing that they talk about with uh jack so jack fillet um did he's a scientist that's been studying you know um aliens really for for decades now and he's coming out with this new thing with a guy named Dr. Gary Nolan, where they're actually taking pieces of alleged Roswell material and these alleged alien materials
Starting point is 00:23:31 that people have recovered or have out there. And I'm sure there's people out there with these materials and bringing them to laboratories and analyzing them with this approach where they can actually look at the isotopes. And what he said is that you know instead of working with you know 190 90 something elements like we work with in our periodic table
Starting point is 00:23:51 they work with all the isotopes of all these elements in between so they're working with like 200 puzzle pieces rather than building stuff with only 90 pieces what would be an example of an isotope so an isotope is just uh so you have atomic number. That's what goes up on the periodic table. That's the number of protons in your nucleus. And that gives you your properties of the charge and the properties of the atom. But then you have something called neutron number, and the neutrons are kind of stabilize the nucleus. And you can, you can kind of like throw a couple extra neutrons in, and it doesn't change the charge. So it doesn't change the fundamental properties of the thing, it just makes it a little bit heavier and when it's a little bit heavier
Starting point is 00:24:28 it spins uh its quantum spins are a little bit more slow and sluggish and so that kind of affects the like some of the properties of these things and there's weird things that have happened like one one of the examples is they prove that brain our brains actually work on quantum phenomenon their quantum phenomenon is active in our brain. Because if we give people lithium salts, but we use a different isotopic version of lithium, it has a slightly different spin ratio, and it affects people adversely with their behaviors. And so that proves that there's some quantum mechanical process in the brain that's affected by this different, this heavier...
Starting point is 00:25:02 By the spin of the... By the quantum behaviors of these particles. And they're even finding that birds are able to tell magnetic north through a molecule called cryptochrome that exists inside of their retinas. It's literally a molecule in their eye that's super sensitive to these differences in the spins. And one side will spin differently in a magnetic field, and that's the molecule that they're using, that scientists have identified birds as using,
Starting point is 00:25:29 to tell where magnetic fields are. So I want to go back to this idea that this one dude shouldn't know all this stuff. Right. And there's more people that do know it. And what we're doing is we set up a conference to kind of bring these people out of the woodwork, and we say, look, if you know something, come to APEC and present.
Starting point is 00:25:48 We give you an hour to present your topic, and then we have an hour Q&A where we have PhDs, we have DARPA people that show up in our conference and cross-analyze and examine these people. So it's kind of like Project Veritas, but for science. Or Project, I like the Orion Project orion project or the disclosure project but just for science you know so but let me ask then do you do you think uh in your opinion you you know a lot about these scientists and things are working on you think that the u.s and china both have extremely advanced technology we've never even conceived of i don't think we have it yet because
Starting point is 00:26:21 the missing puzzle piece i really see is kind of like the atomic bomb. You can't build an atomic bomb without, you know, refineries and without centrifuges and stuff. That's why we keep – that's why Stuxnet targeted Iran and the thing going on in Iran. Yeah, both are centrifuges. Right. We're trying to prevent them from having the means. Oh, so this is a bomber. So I think the material science is not quite there yet.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Right, right, right. So that kind of bums me out because I want to just, you know, want to believe it, right? But the Chinese, right. The Chinese, I think, are significantly more advanced than us in this area. In fact, those two patents that I gave you just shows how much research they've been doing into these optical materials and these metamaterials and some of these. What are they missing and what would they need to build the machine to produce this effect? I think it's going to take a consolidated effort of a lot of different people, because we're going to need material scientists who are going to take advice from our physicists who tell them this is the kind of materials I need. Can you make this for me,
Starting point is 00:27:21 and then we need the material science to build those materials. And then we kind of need to work that out in order to, you know, actually do experiments to test these different effects. But like as you're saying before about, you know, science fiction stuff is like quickly becoming reality. Like all this comic book stuff from, you know, the 40s and the 50s, you know, with Captain America, the first super soldier, right? Basically, Captain America, you read the book, it's when they discovered steroids. And they, like, oh, we can get... It's literally a story about a dude that irradiated and gave steroids, right? Yes. And they were like, they created, he was the first super soldier. And then you talk about the Incredible Hulk. Well, what was the Incredible Hulk? You watch the movie, and it's his dad was
Starting point is 00:28:03 doing all these science experiments. He was takingna and taking little strips of dna off all these different animals like the starfish regeneration thing the uh these these exoskeletons and from these crabs and stuff and then he injected himself with this thing and then he accidentally had a kid and the original story or that was well that's the in the movie i know that's that's the that was like a 2008 movie i think yeah that movie yeah but that's one of the things he was doing no i think you know the original incredible hulk was when we discovered uh we started to you know mess around with yeah with radiation and and radioactive waves and things like that gamma gamma waves i think i was just talking with andreas about all the um stuff hidden in duck tales in disney cartoons and stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And it's kind of amazing when you look back at some of these ideas that they had for the future in science fiction in these comic books back then. For instance, Captain America's shield was made out of this element, vibranium. And there's some kind of truth to these kinds of things. There's some overlap with stories. And I think that maybe vibranium might be thallium. It might be hafnium. What are those? So hafnium is, if you look up the hafnium controversy,
Starting point is 00:29:18 you'll find that hafnium can be used to create gamma ray lasers and also EMP devices and stuff. And there was like, there's some controversy concerning but captain america's shield absorbs all of the energy and displaces it that's like the idea of his shield right right so that one of the things they did with hafnium is they um they actually used it in the h-bomb so one of the guys that was working on that um john wheeler um and teller ed Teller, they basically designed the inner core of the H-bomb to be a hafnium mirror that would basically, a gamma ray laser that would reflect all these rays back in on itself. And that's part of the mechanism for how the hydrogen bomb worked, was that it used hafnium in its construction. And that's sort of like a little bit related because it literally takes all this energy,
Starting point is 00:30:06 absorbs it, and then releases it all at once, which is very similar. That's like Black Panther's suit in the movie. Yeah, exactly. It's really interesting looking back at Hollywood and entertainment just a few decades ago, trying to kind of envision what the future is. Some of them hit the nail on the head, to me,
Starting point is 00:30:24 in my opinion. Demolition Man got a lot of things right. Dude, nailed it. Including the future is. Some of them hit the nail on the head to me, in my opinion. Demolition Man got a lot of things right. Dude, nailed it. Including the Zoom calls. I think they're the ones that first kind of did that. But other ones obviously are very wrong. I'm still waiting for the three seashells, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:38 He doesn't know how to use the seashells. I'm waiting for the curse machine. I mean, it's already in effect somewhat. If you curse, you get a fine automatically. But then he walks up, it prints a ticket. So he just starts swearing and then he rips it and goes to the bathroom with it. Yeah. If we curse, we're going to lose our monetization as well. So there's other things
Starting point is 00:30:55 that are right, aren't right. But from your kind of perspective, especially from your conferences, what are some of the things presented that you saw that you could speak about that are truly inspiring or the most eye-opening to you? Well, hold on. Let me rephrase that. What was the craziest? That's what I was going to say. I want to see a guy pull out like a lightsaber or a laser gun and hoverboard.
Starting point is 00:31:15 What's the craziest thing you saw presented? Ah, I mean... You can come back. I don't know. There's been a lot of interesting presenters, but I almost feel like the best is yet to come because the people that really know the stuff, we've had a lot of these guys show up and they're like,
Starting point is 00:31:32 look, I worked on a lot of this stuff in classified programs. I can't talk about what I worked on. But I can sit in the background and say hot or cold. You know? So that's kind of... I remember when we saw Joe Rogan had uh joe rogan had bob lazar on right yeah those are not familiar he's this dude who what was he a contractor right yes and then he worked at mason physics facility for a brief time in 81 he said that he saw like
Starting point is 00:31:55 this this like machine like there's like an object where he couldn't get his hands like it was a force field almost something like that do you think that guy was telling the truth well i've done a lot of investigations into Bob. Actually, a friend of mine named Dan Benkert, about 50 minutes north of here in PA, he did a lot of this research. And he's really good friends with John Lear and George Knapp and all those guys from the original story and stuff. And the Bob Lazar case is an interesting case. But we've done a ton of research on it. And, you know, we'd look at the actionable intelligence and the science and stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And, you know, what we call element 115 in this, in sort of our jargon is what's called unobtainium. And unobtainium is like saying that, oh, well, you can have antigravity, but it's this element that can only be created in supernovas and really, really far galaxies. And we can't create it in our labs and stuff. It's basically saying that, yeah, you can have anti-gravity, but you need this high-hanging fruit that you'll never, ever reach. It's kind of the idea with that Element 115 story. That's what he was saying. There's a lot of controversy with that story. They said that he predicted Element 115.
Starting point is 00:33:01 It's not that hard to predict higher elements in the periodic table. It's literally arithmetic. You're literally just adding protons. It's anyone who can add. So I heard that there's a... I was just writing... Sorry, I want to go back on Bob Lazar. But Bob Lazar, we'd like to invite Bob actually to APEC, because I've never seen Bob give an interview with any scientist. He's never given interviews with physicists. It always seems like the interviews he does gives are controlled and all the questions are pre-screened and stuff. No way.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Joe pre-screen any of that stuff. No, that's too much. That's like, that's not the kind of two hour long conversation. I had a lot of people like saying that, Oh, he's involved with a deal with Netflix and that he's getting paid to promote
Starting point is 00:33:40 this because let's face it. After Bob is Laura was on Joe Rogan, his film on Netflix got like a million hits sure sure but like i know joe there's no way joe was like here's a list of like they gave him a list of questions nah he wouldn't do that i mean even the best actor wouldn't remember two hours of script but but let me just he's been saying it for 30 years no no for sure for sure but like joe could ask whatever he wants like but he doesn't know what to ask he's only got into the case recently but that's that's just a safe interview for bob then right you know what i mean like they put bob in a situation where they know that joe as a layman
Starting point is 00:34:13 is going to ask only safe questions based on what he's what he's seen on the tv it's really curious that he's he he got an opportunity right after he came out in like the early 90s to present and before stanford university to a team of physicists and he turned that down he also initially said that there was an alien remember that his initial story was that he saw an alien and later said it must have been a puppet and i'm like why say that anyway did they really do that i don't know if i believe i feel like they wanted to feed this guy disinformation they had him working on like high-tech drones that they had recovered from tesla tech or that they'd been working on since they raided tesla's office and they invited
Starting point is 00:34:48 these scientists in they were like just in case they go rogue we're gonna feed them a bunch of crap so that they look like idiots we're gonna tell them it came from zeta reticuli that there's a new element that you can't find and that there's aliens involved well there's lots of theories you know well like i was just saying the joke from the men who stare at goats where it's like the r the Russians think we did it because the French started a rumor and then we denied it, but they think we're lying. It's like with Bob Lazar, he tells this story. If those aren't familiar with this story, there's a documentary about it. Many of you are probably familiar. It's on Joe Rogan.
Starting point is 00:35:16 And he talked about how he saw all of this tech, this crazy technology, anti-grey. I saw aliens and then later said, well, is that maybe a puppet or something? But many people speculate what if it was a potemkin research base that the idea was bring in this contractor bring in a bunch of them show them very ridiculous magic tricks tell them it's real so they believe it and then wait for one of them to leak it that way our enemies at the time russia the soviet union would hear the u. has crazy weapons. Better not attack them because they got anti-grav and they're working with the aliens. Do you know the Russians, after Bob Lazar came out,
Starting point is 00:35:50 they spent about a billion dollars looking into Element 115 and trying to create super heavy elements. The Russians created Element 115. It's called Moscovium. Really? Because it was discovered in Moscow. What can it do? Can it make you meditate?
Starting point is 00:36:05 It has about a 32-second half-life, and it decays, and there's no stable isotope like Bob claimed yet found. If there is one tomorrow, then I, you know. But right now we don't. But right now we don't have that. Well, the U.S. government has a long history of playing psychological tricks and psyops on their scientists that work with them. The real secrets, they wouldn't allow to leak out.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Well, it depends. I mean, we can't make definitive statements like that because, again, anything's possible, right? Yeah, or they leak it or they bury it 30 years later. It would be buried. I'm just saying disinformation is something that the U.S. government uses many times, and they steer scientists, tell them they're working on one thing when they're working on another thing. That was the Manhattan Project. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:36:47 That's exactly what it was. And it could be that Bob Lazar was told certain things that weren't true. But his story was that he was a part of a team trying to reverse engineer this alien technology that was given to them. Right. And if one scientist doesn't do it, another scientist is going to try, and they keep swapping him in and out. That's the story.
Starting point is 00:37:04 He was working on like eight different craft, I think. He said he saw eight different shapes of craft. Right. There's a big, long story. There's a lot of details involved and stuff. And like I said, we go after actionable intelligence. The research I did into S4, I found that there's no evidence of a base at Papoose Lake. We have the satellite photos of the facility that's never been touched going back decades, so that we haven't found evidence of a
Starting point is 00:37:29 base at Papoose Lake. But we did find a Site 4, which is at Tonopah Test Range, which is like literally right next to Area 51. So on a lot of these maps that show like Area 51 and S4, they're really talking about Site 4, which is at Tonopah, which is where a ton of these, you know, electronic countermeasures and other technologies were worked on. This is where they built and flew the F-117 and the stealth fighter and the bombers and stuff. I saw a story not that long ago, maybe a couple months ago, and it was talking about these strange sightings of strange vehicles appearing near a naval base. And the funny thing was it was like these soldiers are saying they see it, and they're reporting when they're doing these training missions,
Starting point is 00:38:08 they see these strange craft, and now they're publishing it, and everyone's like, this is it, there's aliens. And then they casually mention in all these articles that only, you know, 70 miles away is an advanced naval research base. And I'm like, what? They're just seeing aircraft made by uh themselves is it and they're not
Starting point is 00:38:27 they're not high enough security clearance to know what it is so they record it and then why is it that so many higher-ups would dismiss the stories initially because the stories apparently was that they were finally now going to take these claims seriously in case it was a security threat well listen if you're a higher up and then you hear a story where it's like, I saw a crazy vehicle, and you're thinking to yourself, yeah, the research base is 50 miles away. They're flying something around. You wouldn't care. You'd ignore it. That could be a weakness for us, because it really could be an external
Starting point is 00:38:54 threat. So maybe it's good they're actually looking into it, but it also could be just completely redundant. Oh, yeah, we better investigate ourselves for the project we're working on. Is it possible that there are craft that are so lightweight and that are being moved around like by a laser or by a magnet or something all right so there's lots of different technologies there's a guy from nasa um light craft international he started a company his name is leak mirabu it's l-e-i-k-m-y-r-a-b-o and uh he
Starting point is 00:39:22 was working on exactly what you're talking about, microwave-propelled craft, where they actually fire, it was called Project Skyvault, and they fire microwaves at beamcraft and lightcraft. And they're able to, like, and they developed this into a technology where they can actually, like, blast these and ionize the air surfaces flowing across wings of aircraft so they can literally move the aircraft and take control of the aircraft by, like, warping the air currents around the aircraft themselves. So they can take control of, like, there's a whole patent we have on it, taking control of an enemy aircraft using these microwave lasers
Starting point is 00:39:55 to ionize the gas of the air going across their wings to disrupt its flight. And then also there's what are called phase conjugate mirrors, which are a really strange optical property. And they have radar absorbent paint made out of these kinds of materials. In fact, like the paint that they used on the stealth fighters was actually a metamaterial made of barium titanate, and they actually mixed it in the paint so that it was radar absorbent. So would that not appear on radar? I thought the goal of stealth was that it looked like a bird. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It's that cross-sectional. Basically, the goal is they took that formula for the cross-sectional radar area of an object, and they figured out how to minimize the parts of it in that equation to make things disappear. And one of the things that they found was like that the flat areas and also they well the v2 was built actually by uh these two um german scientists uh or aviation guys um that were um working on it uh what are their names the uh there was a there was a team of brothers and they built the flying wing the first flying wing and it's actually like they were calling it german stealth technology because actually the stealth was actually a byproduct. It wasn't actually an intentional part of the design.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Just because they built a flying wing, it didn't have that long fuselage and that long – because that's where the radar was bouncing off of on their planes, they found. So they did a lot of research into radar and radar signal returns. And that's a lot of the research that was actually done out at Area 51. And it was headed by the CIA under a project called Project Rainbow, which was headed by a guy named Edward Mills Purcell. And Edward Mills Purcell was a physicist who won the Nobel Prize in the 60s for discovering nuclear magnetic resonance. And the fact that atoms are basically like spinning magnets, and they have resonances, and they have different rotations. I got to be honest jeremy you made it an extremely important point early in the show and it kind of just uh sucked all the fun out of it you know when you mentioned the need for the factories to build the nuclear weapons you know so so i'm not no i'm not i'm not saying people
Starting point is 00:41:59 should build nuclear weapons let me make my point you know i said how can why can't a 12 year old have a nuclear bomb you said you got to have the factories the refineries so that means not not it's not absolutely not necessarily true but when we're looking for the production of hovercrafts and ufos and spaceships and alien tech you'd see the factories and the industry you'd see the industrial facilities you'd recognize them in satellite images even if they blur them there they would still need way more production facilities than what we can actually see i think they're underground i mean maybe but then it's also the idea is that the u.s has how many factories built underground to produce this stuff and we don't see stuff going in or out
Starting point is 00:42:39 like wouldn't we even see where they were underground they'd have to bring stuff down there right i mean we have a massive, I mean, trillion-dollar military industrial complex, you know, budget that, of course, spends money absolutely recklessly, and there's trillions of dollars that's missing. Who knows? I mean, I think it's in the realm of possibility.
Starting point is 00:42:57 But going back to World War II in Germany, German scientists were working on some pretty crazy radical concepts. I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, there was even an image of a saucer that German scientists were trying to configure as a way to make it fly and make it as a flying object. I don't know if you've seen that. But then, of course, we have to understand under Operation Paperclip, a lot of these top Nazi scientists, a lot of these German World War II scientists were particularly
Starting point is 00:43:23 taken from Germany, brought into the United States, brought into the CIA, brought into the Pentagon, brought into building the U.S. military-industrial complex. Didn't we do that with a Japanese research team? What was the name of that Japanese research team that was torturing people? You know what I'm talking about? Oh, the Station
Starting point is 00:43:40 Number something or Project something. They would put their arm into the cold and then while they were yeah they would put their arm out like into the cold and then while they were alive and just like watch their arm freeze off just really crazy stuff yeah a lot of the stuff we we learned about hypothermia came from this japanese research unit that was doing live human experimentation creepy stuff man and also the german scientists that were doing a lot of experiments on humans, too, as well. I forget the German. And the U.S. government, especially with what we know from acid and what we don't know from all the other kind of classified stuff that still is secret to us.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Unit 731. Yeah, Unit 731. That's what it's called. So about the saucer theory about Germany. So the Germans actually were looking into something called the Thule Society and the Vril. Yes, I remember hearing the Thule Society. Yeah. And so the Germans had apparently some kind of top secret research going on into these ideas. And of course, the Germans were the ones who, you know, where quantum mechanics was born. You know, it was, of course, discovered in Italy.
Starting point is 00:44:39 The first sustained nuclear reaction was done in Italy by Enrico Fermi. But a lot of the theory was laid down by German scientists like Heisenberg and Einstein, in fact. And it really lost Hitler the war because he went after the Jewish population, because that drove out a lot of the most, the brilliant scientific minds of the time in Germany and caused those people to come to the US. And when we got Einstein and we got Heisenberg, it was like, all right, it's like we have all your brain power. This is what happens when you have an ideology-based society rather than a merit-based society. And I'm mentioning this because many people say what's happening right now, especially within the U.S. government, especially within the establishment,
Starting point is 00:45:20 is pushing the ideology over merit. Oh, dude, dude, yes. And all their best people are leaving, and they're coming to APEC and presenting all this information out to the public so that the public can have it. But the same thing happened in Germany, and Germany lost people like Einstein
Starting point is 00:45:34 that, of course, decided to flee rather than, of course, you know, the Italian regime. Now, think about this. We did a segment last week on male testosterone dropping, and Luke mentioned how in China they're doing these training drills to make their men more manly. You take a look at how China is behaving, and they're very authoritarian.
Starting point is 00:45:56 It's horrifically nightmarish. And you take a look – it's an extremist ideology as well. You take a look at what's going on in the US with the rise of critical theory and how extreme that is. And there's probably going to be people who are in the United States or in China looking for places to escape to. I mean, especially China. I mean, they got concentration camps. But even in the U.S., we often hear from people say, I'm going to leave. I don't want to stick around. I think we'll actually get to that point where people are looking at, say, you know, Joe Biden bringing back critical race theory training programs that Trump trump tried to get rid of there'll be a lot of people who don't want to be involved
Starting point is 00:46:28 in this they're going to quit their jobs and start their own companies or they're going to want to leave the country outright right and that's when the u.s will be hit with the brain drain due to an ideological bent and people are not comfortable living under a boot in that way another like um another dimension of that is on the internet on social networks you see people fleeing social networks that are oppressive. And I've often wanted to rebrand minds as a social network for smart people, but Bill's like, no,
Starting point is 00:46:51 it's too much. But we have to understand the major epicenters, the major kind of places where people gather to build stuff, major cities, they're absolutely being eviscerated right now with lockdowns, which is preventing people from doing business. And the people of means are leaving. Yeah. I mean, this is crazy stuff. being eviscerated right now with lockdowns which is preventing people from doing business and the people of means are leaving yeah i mean this is crazy stuff if it weren't for the lockdowns though
Starting point is 00:47:11 we wouldn't have launched apac that was like everyone's home we're all just waiting to do meetings and that's why we decided we're going to start our own conference check it out like in california the people who are okay with what the government has been doing to them stay and the people who aren't leave but most importantly many people who don't with what the government has been doing to them stay and the people who aren't leave but most importantly many people who don't like what's going on and can't leave stay and then you see joe rogan leave you see elon musk leave you see ben shapiro leave you see the people with the ability to do so do so quickly and that means some of the the biggest industrialists and personalities will leave under this ideological oppression. California is brain draining itself of the people who are running big companies.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And now there was a really amazing segment. Bill Maher did. Bill Maher is this liberal guy with Adam Schiff. And he's like, look at all the people fleeing. He said, I came here in the 80s and I found paradise. But now I don't know what I'm getting for my taxes. What am I getting? And Adam Schiff is like well
Starting point is 00:48:05 we're gonna make california now here's here's the kicker we're kind of we're getting off the science subject stuff here but david hogg of of the you know the of parkland notoriety i'm not you know no disrespect i mean there's a horrifying event wants to start a pillow company to compete with mike lindell who has my pillow i I could be wrong about this, but my understanding is that he's literally calling it OurPillow. I know. Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure he's calling it OurPillow. I think he's too tapped in.
Starting point is 00:48:35 But anyway. Withdrawal. He tweeted something about how... This is crazy. He tweeted how we needed union factory that pays fair wages and, like, California's out of the question. Yes. Who wants to buy a $500 pillow? Like no matter how good it is. So these oppressive and authoritarian systems are actually hurting our ability to save this planet.
Starting point is 00:48:57 This is the main point I want to make. How do we get past the problems we're experiencing today with say global warming global warming big big big problem a lot of people don't believe in it a lot of people think it's a very serious problem a lot of politicians will scream and cry the world is ending and then fly on private jets and buy waterfront property but in my opinion we you know we had dr chris dr chris martinson right phd pathologist on talking about fishery collapse he was talking about the insect populations collapsing whatever you whatever your idea is there's a delicate balance to this planet and we are disruptive here's the problem i see dude i'm all in favor of solving these problems but we need to solve it through industry
Starting point is 00:49:33 meritocracy ingenuity etc when when the left gets ideological and says no nuclear energy because nuclear energy is bad and we're like but that's one of our best chances to stop using petroleum they block us from doing it because of ideology. Because of the dirtiness of fission. But when you talk about fusion, which gets roped into that same nuclear power thing, and it's really a completely different process. And maybe you shouldn't even call them both nuclear, though there is nuclear energy involved. I think once we develop fusion, that's going to because we have all these ideas about what to clean, where to get the carbon from, what you got to the ropes you got to drag. But we need a power source.
Starting point is 00:50:09 But look, look, even at Elon Musk with Tesla now becoming what Tesla is worth more than all of the next top 10 auto manufacturers. It's amazing. They drove him out of California. I mean, here's a guy who's doing everything they should want. First of all, they hate his guts. He's a billionaire and he's a nasty person.'m like he just made electric cars cool that's gonna help the planet right they don't care because ideology drives most of these people not all of them but the ones that are active in the culture war and then the california government becomes repressive
Starting point is 00:50:40 oppressive and ideological and then it pushes these people away if this keeps happening we won't be able to actually solve these problems and save the planet through new technology. Yeah, I mean, I actually remember seeing that Bill Maher clip, and I tweeted, quote, even the guy who looks like my dad is realizing the big government is screwing everything and everyone. Now, if you look and compare what California is doing to what China is doing, you know, some people are making parallels that it's almost the same thing. It's not. It's completely driven. And when we have societies that are based off... A little different? Yeah, sorry. A lot of people like to say that they're similar. They're not. Because when you see what's happening in China, especially with their promotion of masculinity, and then you have Chinese institutions and Chinese financial banks
Starting point is 00:51:24 financing a lot of the colleges in the United States, they're promoting that masculinity is toxic. And when you look at this larger kind of spectrum that's unfolding here, you see China centralizing a lot of this for their own personal benefit. You see the United States centralizing it not for their benefit, but for the benefit of the few elite that, of course, don't serve everyone else. And there's a big difference here with the elites in America also being the ones that are bankrolling China at the same time. A lot of people like to post about how Star Trek is communism. It's literally not, but they don't care because they're ideologically driven.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I mean, whatever Star Trek is, it doesn't really fit the definitions that we have historically. It's just a sci-fi world of peace on Earth. You know, they're not in outer space, but they have replicator technology, and their ships can anti-grav and all that stuff. And they're like, see, that's communism. And I'm like, dude, it's nothing. It's Star Trek. It's a magical universe of fiction.
Starting point is 00:52:17 If we want to get to that point, it's not going to be through government authoritarianism and a command economy. It's going to be through smart people working really really hard and people in general coming together to find new ways to do new things and unfortunately you know it's interesting uh ryan long he's a comedian has this new segment out did you you guys see this i don't know he's at the church the church of woke and he basically is dressed like a priest talking about how their new religion is wokeness and essentially humorously drawing parallels between oppressive religious doctrine and critical theory that's the freakiest thing to me that you've got people on the left weaponizing critical theory which is a moral authoritarian dogma which is going to restrict our ability to
Starting point is 00:53:02 actually develop new technology and do new things one One of the biggest problems I've always had with the left, because I used to do fundraising for nonprofits. One of them, I worked for several environmental nonprofits. And I immediately started researching, okay, climate change is a problem, right? Global warming is a problem, carbon emissions, all that stuff. Okay, what's our best solution? And I came across nuclear energy. It has zero emissions, and it has a massive energy return on energy invested. Thorium reactors.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah, I've heard about thorium. Thorium salts, right? Yeah. So they're very safe. They don't melt down. How do they work? I mean, I'm not going to get into all the science of it. But long story short, they're safer.
Starting point is 00:53:37 They don't melt down. It's liquid, right? It's a liquid reactor. Yeah, it's a liquid core reactor. It's safer because you can use the fuel indefinitely. It doesn't have spent fuel rods, reactor there's a it's it's safer because it it doesn't you can use the fuel indefinitely it doesn't have spent fuel rods so there's not the waste problem like that other fuels have like we have at yucca mountain with uh all the reactor fuel but so so here i am and it's these exact environmental organizations saying no to nuclear energy and i
Starting point is 00:54:00 didn't know why i said well it's it's zero emission and this new technology is safe and they're like nuclear is bad it's bad for and this new technology is safe and they're like, nuclear is bad. It's bad for the planet. It's the same reason they took like an MRI machine, the same way I talked about Edward Mills personally, he invented an MRI,
Starting point is 00:54:13 nuclear magnetic resonance. So what they use in an MRI machine, an MRI machine, it's called an MRI machine because they took the N out. It's actually a nuclear magnetic resonance imaging machine. But they removed the word nuclear
Starting point is 00:54:24 because people hear that word and it's like they don't understand it. Really? But all it is is just the nucleus of an atom. It doesn't mean that it's nuclear fission or that it's nuclear active decay or radiation. It doesn't mean any of that. Nuclear doesn't mean radiation. It doesn't mean radiation. It doesn't. So do we need like an Atlas Shrug type scenario where all the wealthy industrialists flee to a secret location to be free from the oppressive government? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:53 We've had a discussion. I think we're all on board with that. Making a ranch where we can build saucers. And isn't it kind of sad that our resources, our money is being spent for destruction rather than building, rather than actually construction? If you look at where the majority of the scientific community, where you look at the majority of the money that goes into them, it goes into weapons. Not, of course, helping, creating, solving a lot of the problems that we all face. And we have to keep all of the technology secrets. Everything has to be not open sourced. Everything has to be kept for power purposes and ego and uh you know it's
Starting point is 00:55:30 it's when we look at it from the bigger picture it's absolutely sad and pathetic they got to be 30 years ahead um with what we have publicly you know they're 30 years advanced in some ways of what's the classified stuff that's out there and they're holding that and withholding it and using it to make weapons and they want to keep the the whole goal of this is to you know the military industrial banking intelligence petroleum complex and what i was what i call it and it's basically this organization that of rich people that want to maintain power and control and any under any terms possible they don that includes keeping these technologies under wraps and only for them and for their purposes.
Starting point is 00:56:09 There are a few things in this world that can break my heart as tremendously as two specific historical incidents. The first is the burning of the Library of Alexandria. What a horror story for human history, man. That one just right through the heart, huh? The second, though, is the quote from Wernher von Braun, the, you know, what is he, the godfather of rocketry, essentially. And he helped make a bunch of crazy weapons, rocket weapons for World War II Germany. And he has a very famous quote.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Let me read a little bit. They say, when the first V2 hit London, Von Braun remarked to his colleagues, the rocket worked perfectly, except for landing on the wrong planet. That's so sad, man. That's just a punch in the gut. There's a lot of good quotes. This is a guy who said, I want to travel the stars. I want to land on other planets,
Starting point is 00:56:57 and rockets can do this for us. And then a psychopath took something so beautiful and turned it into a weapon of mass destruction. All I want is fusion. I want working fusion power. I know it's here. We have cold fusion. But it's going to create a weapon.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It is. And it's going to end up being used to destroy a lot of humans. But what could they do with a fusion reactor? If everyone had one, I don't know, focus the energy into a city. So about cold fusion, Peter Hagelstein is a researcher at MIT. I went to a cold fusion uh peter hagelstein is a researcher at mit um i went to a cold fusion course that they had an open iap course where you could just basically anyone from the public can go there and go to mit and take a course on cold fusion for a week and um there was all these
Starting point is 00:57:34 professors and all these students there and that just came to show up for the course so i of course went because i'm i live in you know i live close enough to boston i drove in every day i actually stayed at my my brother's lives in Boston, so I stayed at his house. Explain to us fusion and cold fusion. Dude, so basically the idea is that in regular fusion, fusion happens in a star. We have the biggest fusion reactor in the sky. We're wasting tons of money on hot fusion trying to build these tokamak reactors and these fusion reactors here on Earth to mimic what happens in the sun.
Starting point is 00:58:04 What does it do? Like what is the sun doing it's literally what's called you know breaking the coulomb barrier it's pushing through gravity and other forces it's pushing these things so close together that they get so close that through quantum like tunneling they think that that they're in the same place and they actually fuse so like a hydrogen would come together make a helium or something like that two hydrogens will come together. The protons will add and create two protons in the nucleus. They start hugging each other and then it creates the next heavy element and then the next heavier element. And how does that make energy for us? What does it do? It gets hot? So there's a mass difference between the nucleus and there's a mass conversion. So some of that
Starting point is 00:58:40 mass is down converted and then the leftover mass is actually energy through equals MC squared, and that we can extract that extra energy that's left over after the fusion reaction. So what do we do? We end up with what? It eventually turns to gold? So it will, yeah, it will actually, in stars, Carl Sagan is a good book on this, The Cosmos. If you ever read Cosmos by Carl Sagan, he talks about this. There's a documentary on it, too, where he basically breaks down what stars do.
Starting point is 00:59:10 We're all star stuff. We're all made out of stardust. And everything that, all the atoms in my body and your body and all the atoms that are here on this planet were created in supernovas through nuclear fission, I mean nuclear fusion in stars over billions of years. And when they basically create, the helium helium's fuse, they create helium. Then the helium fuses with another hydrogen and creates lithium, the next heaviest element. And it keeps going up and going up and going up. Lithium's solid, solid metal. It's a solid metal, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Wow, so when helium, it's this invisible gas, combines another invisible gas, you'll get a physical piece of metal. Yes. That's cool. So there's different theories on what matter is and how matter is constructed and how matter is made. And, of course, the alchemists tried to do fusion in their laboratories to turn mercury and lead into gold, right? And the idea is that if we can understand nuclear science, then we can create ways to trick these atoms into doing these things. So what is cold fusion then?
Starting point is 01:00:08 That's like, I hear that's like the holy grail of energy. Right, it is. It was when it came out with Pons and Fleischman, these two award-winning electrochemists, discovered this effect at, I think it was Brigham and Young University where they discovered this in Utah. And they weren't sure what to do with the effect that they discovered. They went to people in their department to try and, you know, what do we do? Because like we have a new breakthrough energy source potentially.
Starting point is 01:00:32 We could get shot by the oil companies. Like how do we get this out? And one of the guys at the department was actually a guy named Steven Jones. I know him. I spent a long flight from LA to Australia with him, sitting next to him. Yeah, I've met him before, too. He's an interesting guy. He's got a lot of papers on muon catalyzed fusion, and he's got a lot of interesting ideas and stuff. But he... Cold fusion.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Cold fusion is the one that he's... That's the whole history of it. But essentially, they re-coined the term because this press conference blew up in their face. They had a bunch of Caltech and MIT guys come in and say like, oh, look, this doesn't exist. MIT basically wrote the obituary. They wrote an obituary for cold fusion before they had the data and the results back from their lab. But real quick, can you explain what cold fusion is? It's now called lattice-assisted nuclear reaction, because what they know is happening is that
Starting point is 01:01:23 inside of a lattice of a metal, these atoms are able to behave differently than they behave inside a star or inside the surface of the sun where they're fusing. So inside of a metal, you can saturate metal. What they do is they saturate palladium with tons of deuterium. The deuterium is like heavy water. It's like you take hydrogen, it has two isotopes. One hydrogen is just a proton. So if I add a neutron to that, it makes it heavy hydrogen. That's called deuterium is like heavy water it's like you take hydrogen has two isotopes you add take one hydrogen
Starting point is 01:01:45 is just a proton so if i add a neutron to that it makes it heavy hydrogen that's called deuterium if i had two protons that it's even heavier neutrons two neutrons and that's called tritium right so what they do is they take deuterium and they pump a ton of it into this palladium lattice until they get a saturation of over 90%. And then when they hit that saturation point, which they proved the Caltech and MIT replication experiments never got up to that level where they would have even seen an effect in their labs. But numerous other labs have done this over the past 30 years since this and have shown positive results.
Starting point is 01:02:18 And there's an international collaboration of scientists still working on cold fusion and still researching this. I got a question. So we got to keep going on this. If didn't exist i want to clarify something so you put deuterium which is basically hydrogen with an added neutron so it's heavier than regular hydrogen yes put it in a lattice of palladium yes and then you they because it's heavier they don't like bounce past each other they have more of a tendency to to nail each other when they but what do you do you vibrate the palladium to get them to fuse? Well, they found that vibrating the palladium or shooting it with a laser and something called super waves where they have multiple frequencies added on top of the same wave.
Starting point is 01:02:54 When they hit them with these sort of super frequencies called super waves or do laser-assisted, lattice-assisted nuclear reaction, that it increases the effect. So there is some sort of, what we believe is going on is that there's some sort of entanglement, some sort of coupling between the atoms inside this lattice when you get a high enough concentration and get enough of them packed in, and that allows for fusion to take place. Not only does it allow for it to take place, but it also allows for the, the gamma, gammas that should be produced in these reactions, that was one of the arguments that these reactions should have produced gamma rays that should have killed these scientists if they were actually producing fusion in the laboratory. But they've shown through Mossbauer effect and Bremsstrahlung radiation that they're actually able to divide that energy up and release it as phonons or electronic vibrations to a lattice, to the lattice. So that's essentially how they convert it into energy that we can use but we can't use it because in order to use energy
Starting point is 01:03:50 like that right in order to build a power plant i have to make steam that's what i need so that's how a nuclear reactor works we we have these control water we boil water and then we use that water to push a tesla turbine the same technology that Tesla invented to produce base motor. So we could use the phonons to create piezoelectric, basically vibrate it until it creates an electrical charge. It might be a way to do this with cold fusion where we create smaller voltage. The thing is that there's more research that needs to be done into turning this into usable energy because you can build a cold fusion reactor. But if it's cold and it's not boiling water water then you're not going to be able to produce steam you're not going to be able to build a power plant with what is it it's literally cold isn't like you can touch it like it's not hot it's it's just happening it cold is i think a relative term
Starting point is 01:04:35 i believe it they electrolyze this and um they actually try not to make make it too hot because it will actually fissure the metal and have other effects so it takes place cold yes at a much colder temperature than than so so wait wait you're saying that they can do it but they just can't convert the energy in any meaningful way that's one of the biggest problems right now they're like now what yeah so now we we've measured you know the u.s navy uh spay war lab actually measured tritium in their cold fusion tests, the guy Larry Forsley. And I met him at MIT at the conference, too. But these guys have proven that fusion is taking place. There's some other process that's not well understood that accounts for why we don't
Starting point is 01:05:17 see these high-energy gammas being produced. But then there's the problem of engineering a power plant out of it because how do you boil water? It's producing phonons. You boil water. Are the phonons vibrating the lattice? Where are the phonons going that it's producing? Yeah, literally it's relaxing that vibration and distributing it to a lattice. Of palladium?
Starting point is 01:05:39 Yeah, it's divided among the lattice. So if we can figure out how to get energy from vibrating palladium, I keep thinking of piezoelectric, which is just energy that you get from movement, then maybe we could have it vibrate. But is it moving? It really is moving? It's really strange because it occurs at these active sites in the materials. It only occurs like cracks in metal appear to be like an active site where these things are are appearing and then
Starting point is 01:06:06 you know there's different researchers on different sites one guy's saying though no the cracks are bad and that's that's not what's going on and then there's other guys saying that the cracks are good it's just like palladium's interesting element it's the only element in the entire periodic table that has its outermost valence shell saturated with electrons so it's like electrically repulsive so it's probably preventing the gamma radiation it's pushing it's got a lot of push to it that explains why why tony stark replaced his palladium core or why he had a palladium core in his uh his uh arc reactor that's exactly exactly very similar to cold fusion in the arc reactor there's a lot of similarities between the arc reactor and cold i'm kind of i'm joking but like was there is that kind of the the
Starting point is 01:06:44 the inspiration for i don't believe i think that came i can't that came before of course pons and fleischman iron band is like the 70s doesn't it go back no but i mean like in the modern iterations he's got palladium in this core then it like generates electricity of some sort i'm sure when hollywood was redoing that film they kind of like they they they consult with people like me because i've been approached by people in hollywood like look i'm making a film and i want like some real science to kind of like throw in or something and mix with this that's realistic and stuff so that happens i know that happens for sure um so but you know like i don't know it's it's weird man so i mean it's not too far off too much but so what we built we got to build a fusion
Starting point is 01:07:23 so functioning fusion generator that produces electricity yeah i think these but then i i hear these crazy conspiracies that oil barons and you know right that tycoons will come after them do you think that's legit like you mentioned before that there are people who don't want the system to change and i hear a lot that's actually a very left-wing talking point the environmental environmentalists, the climate change activists say that it's the big oil companies, their banker buddies, and the politicians who don't want to lose that control over the people. I'll add a little bit more. The general idea they have is that we as a people are addicted to fossil fuels. We have built this entire civilization upon it over the past hundred plus years and you you
Starting point is 01:08:06 hear from people like greta thunberg who she says you know we we don't want to wait till 2030 or 2022 we want it now we want a moratorium and that would mean the millions would die yeah because they have no food production they have no vehicles and so men on the left think it's the industrialists doing it on purpose because so long as we're addicted to this they can say oh but we can't get rid of it you'll die do you think that there's there's like i've seen so many videos where they're like i've invented cold fusion or i've invented infinite energy and they show like magnets on a wheel spinning and it's like very ridiculous but in a more serious tone do you think that there's probably there may be scientists who have developed some maybe you know prominent renewable type energy or clean energy that's being suppressed?
Starting point is 01:08:46 I'll mention one. You mentioned perpetual motion machines. I've only seen one in the literature which actually might work, and it's based on Einstein's Brownian motion. That would mean that more energy is coming out of a system that was put into it. That defies the laws of physics, doesn't it? I sent you a link on it. It's basically like it's a quantum effect, and it basically exploits the Heisenberg uncertainty principle in some ways, which is kind of like what I talk about with these squeeze states. You're squeezing one of those parameters in the Heisenberg uncertainty principle to make the other one go astronomical so that you can change its position or its momentum in space by focusing one. If you know one, you can only know the position or the momentum of an object to within a degree of h-bar over 2 pi. That's Heisenberg
Starting point is 01:09:31 uncertainty principle. So if you know the exact position to within a finer degree of uncertainty than h-bar 2 pi, automatically the momentum will just go astronomical just because it has to conserve this principle. And the same thing with the momentum if you know the exact momentum then suddenly the position changes so you can never nail down where anything is in quantum mechanics as soon as you try to it moves on you have you ever watched uh who killed the electric car it's a documentary one and on the saturn and so i think that's what tim is kind of pointing at with well the conspiracy point out conspiracies there are conspiracies the general motors streetcar conspiracy
Starting point is 01:10:06 was a legit conspiracy. There used to be trolley systems connecting the entire United States and the East Coast. I could take a trolley from here to New York and I could pay like a dollar for it. But then they took all the trolleys, they bought out all the trolley systems
Starting point is 01:10:17 and pulled all the cars off the rails, disassembled all the rails, all the train tracks, and then no one had any way to get around so they had to buy cars. So I can't even get into the rails, all the train tracks, and then no one had any way to get around, so they had to buy cars. So, you know, I can't even get into the details, but I could vaguely say that I met individuals that created, you know, innovations, and they were bought out by big companies, and they were told to shut up, and they did, and they gave them a big fat paycheck.
Starting point is 01:10:38 And a lot of these companies that these new advancements would contradict with their market, they just got rid of. Even solar panels. Yeah. And especially when you look at something like the petrodollar and its effects on the world stage involving Saudi Arabia. I mean, Saudi Arabia is an empire in decline already. But if you look at the world going off oil, they're a country that, again, has a very
Starting point is 01:11:00 hard time getting fresh water, has a very hard time creating any kind of vegetation, any kind of farmland. Saudi Arabia, some people speculate, might even have a nuclear weapon already. So when we're seeing empires in decline, there's a lot of ramifications for that. And that's why there's been larger theories out there that there is some kind of bigger conspiracy to make sure that we stay on gas, that we stay on oil, rather than, of course, advance towards free energy or free technology or even innovations that are less cost-inducive and don't prop up the Saudi empire. The Saudis actually have been publishing a lot of interesting papers, their university, on squeeze states and metamaterials and all this kind of stuff. I looked up the streetcar conspiracy, and it's not as crazy as people think. It's semi-debunked, it seems, based on one source I'm reading. The general
Starting point is 01:11:50 idea was there was a very aggressive campaign to buy up streetcars and then sell automobiles, but it was because the streetcar system was already struggling and potentially on the verge of collapse. Of course. Of course. How convenient. Well, I mean, look, you choose what you what you want to believe well they could have upkept
Starting point is 01:12:06 it but they were like ah but but in this larger sphere of conversation well they wouldn't have been able to buy them up unless there was you know there was a fear that they were going to go insolvent and so gm was like now's our chance so that's what i'm saying semi gm bought them up oh yeah so i think that's what they said uh general motors yeah let me look yeah gm and partner companies in grade engaged uh it in an aggressive campaign to sell public transport equipment to companies that were otherwise reluctant. Oh, my God. Doing this involved buying up electric trolley operators like the Los Angeles Railway.
Starting point is 01:12:34 They say it was only feasible because the streetcar companies' national lines purchased weren't well on. Bianco points out that this plan wouldn't have been feasible if the streetcar companies' national city lines purchased weren't already struggling. So I guess the general idea is the streetcars were in a state of insolvency. That's allowed auto manufacturers to come in and displace them. I mean, look at the MTA, right, in New York City. You've got an electric, essentially, public transportation system.
Starting point is 01:13:03 It's failing. It is in dire straits. Yeah, the one in Boston, too. The T in Boston is the same thing. They can't maintain them. And there was some hope that Amazon coming with this new headquarters would pump in enough revenue that they could shift over to fixing the subway system. And then, you know, there was this big protest by people like Ocasio-Cortez in the financial district, which resulted in Amazon saying no. That's not a solution to New York's problems, mind you. But they struggle to fix these trains.
Starting point is 01:13:28 So, I mean, it seems feasible that the system is just not being maintained properly. It doesn't work. Well, the MTA receives a crap ton of money. We're talking about bridges. We're talking about toll money. We're talking about some tolls in New York City to cross a bridge cost almost $20, probably $20 by the making of this video already. Last time it was, I think, $18 to get across to Verrazano. So we're seeing a huge mismanagement.
Starting point is 01:13:52 We're seeing it poorly run, and they're in the deficit. They're in the hole. So I think this more says to something that happens when you have centralization, when you have big government, more than when you would have a free market. But there's also elements of the free market that we were just talking about, like the electric car, that get bought up and get shut down, which sucks because they buy all the copyrights. I got to tell you, as an owner of an electric car, there are pros and cons. I mean, when we're looking at local grocery store shopping it's wonderful you just drive there you drive back i never i look at the gas stations and i like the silly peasants and their gas stations and then it's like oh we need to drive an hour oh my car
Starting point is 01:14:34 can't make it i have to go home and take the gas vehicle there's pros and cons you know are they like suppressing solar technology could you have like really really good solar panels if if they were allowed you mentioned solar earlier as being suppressed um well yeah they're going back to the 70s is was a technology like you know even when solar panels came out they were people they were paying people off to lie about the efficiency of them like you know not to so that other people wouldn't go off the grid because the electric companies would go out of business did you did you know that jimmy carter put solar panels on the white house roof and that yeah george bush removed them the next year when reagan took off did you hear the story there was a guy who had a truck and he layered it with solar panels and made it charge and then run on solar
Starting point is 01:15:13 panels and then it can't like i guess the i don't want to name the which company because i could be wrong they like came and seized it like sheriff showed up and took it away and said you can't do this there's a lot of stories like you guys You guys know Stanley Meyer? He invented a car in the 70s that ran off of water. We have all the Stanley Meyer patents and we have a group and our team working on some of that technology as well. So, for those that aren't familiar, it's a water car
Starting point is 01:15:36 that would use electrolysis to separate hydrogen and oxygen from water and then burn that as fuel? It uses a nuclear catalyst to help with the splitting of the water molecules. So, it's kind of like, the idea is that it uses a yeah like a nuclear catalyst to help with the the splitting of the water molecules so it's kind of like the the idea is that it uses it gets more energy out than it puts in actually somehow but that's not that's not true i think it's retrieving energy from the vacuum you're taking energy from the environment somewhere there's no free lunch i don't think you know
Starting point is 01:16:00 i've never seen any free lunch energy can't be but does the water car actually work i mean i've seen videos and i think from a layman's point of view i just read something on it seems to make sense but i don't know anything about it not as far as we haven't built one that works we haven't you know gotten a group out there that works and obviously if it was such a great idea back in the 70s with these you know ultra-efficient carburetors and all this this this stuff you hear about it's like why isn't it why isn't it being done more today you know didn't they buy someone bought his patent and then he died shortly thereafter is that the story no the idea is that like the patent office is sort of like this trap it's it's like as soon as you patent something it's like it gets bought out or it goes on a shelf and then like i don't know it's it's kind
Starting point is 01:16:44 of a weird thing it's's kind of like this, this trap for people that are greedy and want to make money off these inventions and stuff. So there's a lot of controversy about the patent. You're big on open sourcing information, right? I mean, that's been pretty much your ethos from.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Yes. I want to, I don't believe in patents. I don't believe in like, I believe in intellectual property. Like you have your, your own ideas and your own, your own thoughts, but there should be a different system of how we make money off that and how property, you have your own ideas and your own thoughts, but
Starting point is 01:17:05 there should be a different system of how we make money off that and how we control over that, because it's really not beneficial to the species, the way things are set up like that. You know, I want to mention something about the streetcar conspiracy stuff. I don't trust the media, especially when, you know, doesn't GM own NBC or somethingc or something whoa or or not not gm i'm probably i'm probably confusing things but when you have i'll put it very simply regardless of who owns what when you have a car company that has to sell advertisements to a media company and then the boss of the media company says look we run this story we lose a major advertiser i've seen it
Starting point is 01:17:42 happen i've seen it i've seen it happen So I'm not saying I know exactly what for, but if you come to me and say that automobile companies work together to corrupt and destroy streetcars and systems like that, I want to believe it. Because I think it's completely feasible. And when I hear stories where they're like, well, you know, the streetcars were already doing bad.
Starting point is 01:18:04 You guys all had that reaction, like, yeah, like, we believe the media, oh, you know, oh, these big industrialists are all benefiting from the dissolution of public interests and publicly available transport. Let's just believe the mainstream media in this one. No, but I will point out at the same time, for me, it is kind of a coin toss
Starting point is 01:18:21 because the MTA is collapsing. Government can't really run this properly. Well, there are some good points that you did bring up, though, with that. Because, you know, you have to look at the time period that those rail systems were built and the metallurgy that existed at the time. And it's not, you know, to think that it's not hard to believe that those things were a rust bucket by the time this actually happened. Because we didn't have the metallurgy to really, you know, prevent against that. All the steel things that we could make was very, you know, limited. So, like, it probably rusted really quickly.
Starting point is 01:18:47 You know, one of the issues is for Chicago, for places like New York, I know this in Chicago, people complain that the fare is too high, but clearly it's not high enough to actually sustain the system itself. So it's heavily subsidized by the taxpayer, and that's still not enough. They were talking about shutting down the L train in New York. For construction, yeah. I thought they had to do repairs on it. Much needed repairs to fix this train that goes under the Hudson River.
Starting point is 01:19:20 No, no, no, the East River. It goes from Manhattan to Brooklyn. Yeah. So you had all this Williamsburg property skyrocketing in value then they announced several years ago they're like what was it 2019 or something they were going to shut it down for a very long time not just for a few weeks not just for a few months it already is barely running as is there's already major problems with it i mean a lot of the you know systems are dilapidated and there's entire industries and entire real estate markets
Starting point is 01:19:45 connected to it that almost went out of business but i think they announced that they're not going to be taking it out that they're going to be keeping it in and they stopped the construction efforts when they announced that they were going to suspend for like a couple years the l train to fix it because it's in disrepair the people who own the real estate start freaking out because who wants to live in Williamsburg if you can't get to Manhattan? You have to take the G train down south, like the AC train, then go to the financial district.
Starting point is 01:20:14 For those that aren't familiar with New York, it is not fun to have one train that takes five minutes to jump from Brooklyn straight to Manhattan. You'd have to take one train way far south for like 30 minutes, then hop on a different train and take it to the financial district, then hop on the Q and enter the R up to 14th Street.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Transportation is a huge, huge problem globally, not just in New York. Not a problem anymore. The COVID lockdowns have made it so everybody works from home. Yeah. Praise be. But also, Ian's happy. I'm not. So no one needs warp drive now.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Yeah, we can all just work from home. Maybe that's what we need is warp drive. No, what's going to happen is we're all going to have virtual digital spaces. I'm wondering if that's what warp drive is. I want to talk. Well, real quick. I remember, to mention Greta Thunberg again, she said it's insane to think there's infinite economic growth. And what she doesn't understand is digital spaces.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Because I remember the time when she was saying this like i remember what the first time i heard her talking about it infinite economic growth i was playing some golf game on my phone where you like you know pull your finger back and then he hits a little golf ball and falls in the hole and there were power-ups you could buy and i was like when i buy that power up literally nothing is produced it's just a code changes from yes to no and then or you know a zero to a one and then all of a sudden i get to use the super golf swing but that dude still gets a dollar and then he can spend that dollar on whatever so yes if we start moving into virtual environments second life type things there can be theoretically infinite economic growth because you
Starting point is 01:21:40 you buy digital things that's what like makeup companies are taking a huge hit because nobody's going out anymore. I think they're one of the big... So they're trying to merge into digital makeup and that kind of stuff. Instagram filters. I'm surprised they haven't gotten into that business. But yeah, they are. Life on the pod is going to be great. There's going to be bugs to eat intravenously.
Starting point is 01:22:00 And we're just going to be sitting... What kind of bugs? Crickets, cockroaches. I hear crickets. I hear crickets are notaches i think i think they're very abundant uh i think the you know filet mignon steaks are only going to be for the super uber billionaire elites and we're going to be very comfy in our little matrix battery uh compartments you're going to live in the pod and you're going to eat bugs but you're going to be in the matrix
Starting point is 01:22:18 flying around on a dragon throwing fireballs you're going to be neural linked to the back of your head oh now we're talking just like like, you know. It's the Matrix, baby. Yeah, seriously. I got a question, Jeremy. Assuming that we have infinite power, if we can tap fusion, how do we build a warp drive?
Starting point is 01:22:33 Well, you just need the right type of nonlinear optical materials on the surface of your craft. I'd say some wave guides, maybe some monatomic elements. The idea is to create a
Starting point is 01:22:41 meta surface or a meta atom. We're called meta atoms or meta surfacessurfaces. It's basically like you have a surface of all these atoms, and then you get them condensed to the same wavelength through what's called light-matter coupling. And when you couple light with itself,
Starting point is 01:22:56 you create these condensed matter states, and then you can get the entire craft to act like a single atom. And if it acts like a single atom, then you can influence it with quantum mechanical behaviors and quantum mechanical properties that's kind of one idea you know something really crazy about star trek they have warp drive like that's that this so this idea of warp drive what was it first in first contact uh warp drive was created by a character named zephyr in real life i know i know but in real life let's talk about star trek in real life when was the first idea of warp drive?
Starting point is 01:23:26 It was a long, long time ago, right? Like Einstein? The first person actually was a guy named Alcubierre, who was a theoretical physicist who studied Einstein and general relativity. And he watched Star Trek and was a fan of Star Trek. And so he wrote a paper called Alcubierre Warp Drive. Star Trek was the first, like... Star Trek inspired it inspired the
Starting point is 01:23:46 idea of warp drive it did yeah in the original star trek they had warp they did yes because they they gene roddenberry got the download somewhere man that guy was talking to aliens or something that dude was plugged in here's what people don't realize even Even in Star Trek, where they have Warp 9, you know, and they can travel much faster than the speed of light, they can barely get anywhere within our own galaxy. So people like, I don't think people realize the vast space between galaxies and even between quadrants of our own galaxy traveling at the speed of light. So I think it's Voyager, right? This is the series where they get transported to like a different quadrant and it would take them 70 years
Starting point is 01:24:34 traveling at their fastest speed to make it back to Earth and they're traveling substantially faster than light. That's how big the galaxy is, let alone going to a different galaxy. So warp drive's like just a stepping stone towards a greater field warp drive or something? One of the weirdest things is this something called quantum non-locality in physics and this sort of reinterpretation of quantum mechanics that was done by John Archibald Wheeler, who worked with Einstein, and he also was employed by one of these big companies that I want to mention and talk about because we talk about scientific conspiracies
Starting point is 01:25:09 and ways that they suppress scientific information. Did you know that there's a company that runs and manages all of our science national labs? They run Lawrence Livermore Labs, Elk Ridge. They run Los Alamos. What's this company called? And the company that manages them all is called Battelle Memorial Institute. They were founded in like the 1930, 1938, I believe. And they're founded by a guy who is an iron metallurgist.
Starting point is 01:25:36 And they're a company that specifies in metallurgy and how to make metals. And they're experts in, you know, all different types of alloys and metals. And they're right in Columbus, Ohio. And this is sort of like... And they control all of our labs? They manage all of them. They're managers. So basically all the research that goes on in our labs,
Starting point is 01:25:57 they can decide what gets canned and what gets funded. And, you know, if anything gets discovered at our lab, it goes up to their management chain. And, of course, they're right there to scoop it all up. Do you think that if someone did discover a rapidly renewable – let's not even say like perpetual motion, right? This idea that you can get energy – more energy out than you could put in. Let's say they actually discover something that just uses, say, ambient energy in a very simple way that produces wrap like a massive amount of clean energy do you think that they would suppress it out of fear it could destabilize the economy or or just suppress
Starting point is 01:26:30 it in general absolutely why why would they why would they historically they've done that with every single technology a new breakthrough even even when the russians discovered that you know the guy who flung the wing nut off of a thing and noticed that it was spinning in air and would change directions. Oh, in space? The Russians kept that classified. That effect. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:49 So if you have a T-shaped object, right? Yeah. And you spin it, it'll eventually start flipping back and forth. Right. In a really weird way. They wrote a paper on it. The Russians wrote a paper on it about a couple years later called the tennis racket effect. And they never talked about this incident on the space station.
Starting point is 01:27:05 You know what one of my favorite stories is? I don't know if this is true. There's a meme that goes around where it's like the United States spent $40 million developing a pen that could write in zero G. The Russians used a pencil. Ha-ha. And everyone laughs, right? Yeah. You've seen that meme?
Starting point is 01:27:21 I've seen that. Now there's another thing that goes around where someone responded saying using a pencil is extremely dangerous because it creates particulate matter that can get into the instruments and into the air and it floats around aimlessly. So using a pencil is actually a bad idea. Getting an ink pen that can work and is self pressurized is actually much smarter. And then it's like it's one of those things where you you think, ha ha, it is so dumb dumb why are people so dumb they should use a pencil but it's only because you don't understand anything about space or technology or the physics that you assume and that's that's a really good like way to understand everything in our society from politics to science in that so many people who have no idea what they're talking about will push things that will make everything worse and then mock those who are actually trying to solve the problem. And there's also what we find is like there's a ton of people
Starting point is 01:28:08 just filling the thing with mud. They're filling the thing with those perpetual motion machines and those magnetic motors and all these other things. And it's just basically a perpetual time-wasting machine is what I call it. I love watching these perpetual motion machines because most most the time you can tell you can see where they hid the battery you know to make it spin and then other times it's like even if that really was you'll see like really clever ones i'm like how do you
Starting point is 01:28:34 get energy out of that yeah i mean it's like okay you found a way to make the marble go tick tick tick tick you know down the slope and then it goes up and goes again are you going to somehow turn that into a generator is there it's some way that the marble moving in a circle is going to spin a turbine i guess maybe a little tiny motor get a little little bit no it just never happens you know what i love though is when people talk about magnets and they're like why don't you just have a wheel with a bunch of magnets on it so that when the wheel comes around the magnet pushes it and it just keeps getting pushed forever and i'm like because the magnets are pushing and pulling so it just stops have you ever actually tried it's fake it's not real so you asked me before about who i thought was like the weirdest guy that we've ever had come
Starting point is 01:29:13 on and present or like most interesting so i i thought of like two probably examples um you know you mentioned high frequency gravitational waves that was mentioned in that thing we actually had a guy named gary stevenson from darpa who came on and uh presented on high frequency gravitational waves that was mentioned in that thing. We actually had a guy named Gary Stevenson from DARPA who came on and presented on high frequency gravitational waves and their generation. And he talked about this, we talked a little bit about that Nazi bell, the rotating mercury plasma and these torus drives. So like, we found out that General Electric actually did some experiments on a patent that was patented by an engineer in Valley Forge, PA, named Henry William Wallace. And it was on this Gravito Magnetic Effect or kinamassic field. And they literally, GE was taking like tokamak reactors and rotating
Starting point is 01:29:59 mercury mixed with like cesium barium and these other elements to try and test these torsion field theories of like of this physics and stuff and we have papers on it from like these guys going back to you know talking about rotating superconductors and these magnetic fields and stuff. One of the other guys that presented was a guy named Al Zafon who did some of these research experiments for Boeing back in the 80s and 1981 it was a paper that was written and we're trying to replicate that experiment in our lab right now that's kind of where we're at and I think that was like the turning point where our scientists in you know 1981 when they did this Boeing experiment
Starting point is 01:30:36 with Alzafone on nuclear magnetic resonance I think that was the turning point when they realized that this that the spins of these atomic molecules and the elements that are in the atoms is really like key to how this effect works because that was where they first came up with a realistic theory for it this guy um alzafon and then he got funding actually from boeing to do this research and it was classified for years until like we found it through you know a couple years back through our research. And now we're, we're actually putting this together on a tabletop lab experiment to run it ourselves. And, um, we also got his son.
Starting point is 01:31:11 He's, he's of course passed away sadly, but, uh, his son is still alive and had a lot of his dad's research. And we actually interviewed his son on APEC and got him to present a whole bunch of cool stuff. So you mentioned the column effect, um, coolum and that's when so they're spinning the atoms are spinning they come together and because of this coolum effect they spin into each other basically and then start to spin as one and that's what fusion is well the coolum barrier that's the cool fusion is breaking the coolum barrier and the coolum was a as a was a
Starting point is 01:31:41 french scientist who the father of electromagnetism and charge, he's the first person to isolate and identify electric charge, and did a lot of the experiments, you know, to set the foundations for, you know, electromagnetism, which of course was picked up by, you know, Heaviside, Gibbs, Maxwell, and those guys who formalized it into a field theory, where they could use, you know, into a mathematical field theory, which is is really um some of the you know the foundational points of where all this stuff comes from that was a guy named coulomb that's that's where this comes from because he he's like the father of electric charge he proposed like a barrier an electromagnetic barrier that atoms couldn't couldn't pass through because the electrons are pushing themselves away or
Starting point is 01:32:21 something it's because their their neutrons make the atoms heavier that they're able to... There's a strong nuclear force which holds these subatomic elements together. That's our current model. So some of these models that we're looking at deal with knots. This mathematician named Lewis Kaufman, who does a lot of work on knots, and he thinks that matter is actually light that's twisted up in knots and and depending on how much how tight and how big those knots are will depend on what the matter is so he says that you know like this is just a simple knot hydrogen is just a super simple knot it's just you know when you create one proton but when you start weaving these things together they have to have these other
Starting point is 01:32:59 elements in there to hold the knots together and those elements are actually neutrons and um it's so it's it's there's a mathematical core theory behind this image that you get of just these balls, these colored balls, like neutrons are, protons are red and neutrons are green and they stick together and that's our model. But that's not really realistically what is going on on that quantum level. It's more like knots and twisting of fields in and out of themselves and around each other in different geometries. This is some crazy stuff, but I think we've got a bunch of people listening who want to ask some questions.
Starting point is 01:33:29 So we'll go to Super Chats. Absolutely. If you haven't already, smash the like button. Like, subscribe, share, all that good stuff. Notification bell. And become a member at TimCast.com because we will have a bonus segment up, a members-only piece of content after the show, just for those who are members to help make sure that we don't get completely annihilated if we ever do get banned but let's read some of these super chats and again make sure you smash that like button can i plug uh
Starting point is 01:33:51 alien scientist.com and also my youtube channel is alien scientist on youtube we're uh we're trying to break a hundred thousand subscribers and if you guys can help that happen that would be awesome we're almost there all right we got some uh some super chats from people. And these are probably from remnants from other episodes. Carl Flynn says, Tim, crew served means exactly that. A weapon operated by a team, vice an individual. The term can apply to anything from an MMG to a howitzer. Interesting. David Young says, referring to how to fix things and create culture.
Starting point is 01:34:22 Get involved with Big Brothers Big Sisters Org or get involved with local orphanages. Children are our most precious commodity. I mean, literally, with no kids, there's no civilization. It's us. It's people, you know? Slanty Chauffeur Bear says, alexandria burned 47 bc defunded 215 ad war looted 275 ad and 295 ad destroyed in an earthquake 365 ad the mythical 391 ad burning is a conflagration with the demolition of the shrine of serapis interesting thank you yeah that was thank you for that graboid biden says i have been rocking out to tom mcdonald all night also played will the people i want to know why it doesn't have 10 million views um well i think will the people to be completely
Starting point is 01:35:12 honest is just not a the kind of pop music that typically would get a million views you know there are some songs that are very serious and don't do that well in there. Some songs that are very like orchestrated very well. To put it simply, depends on what you define as a good song. Is a good song a song that people will want to share and listen to over and over again? Because if that's your definition, Will of the People probably ain't it. If your definition of a good song is something that has meaning and is, you know, just makes you feel good and makes you want to listen and makes you want to play it, then it probably is. But certainly it's not for most people. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:35:48 I kind of disagree. I think it's a pop hit. We just don't have a marketing firm like B was a BGM getting it onto all the radio stations syndicated across the country yet. If we get on the radio stations, you'll see. There are a ton of songs that, look, if the song was good enough, people would have shared it. That's all that matters. But we don't have radio presence yet. That's not what I mean. I mean, look, there are a lot of songs that look if the song was good enough people would have shared it that's that's all that matters we don't have radio presence yet that's that's that's not what i mean i mean look there
Starting point is 01:36:08 are there are a lot of songs that shouldn't be popular i mean i remember growing up listening to nickelback and i'm like they just put that on the radio why it's not even good exactly there i'm not trying to be mean to nickelback but you know i don't like it like you're self-managed yeah but listen if the song was truly good people would be sharing it and then it would take off that's just how it works like look at gangnam style yeah you know it was it it still was clever marketing but once people saw everybody kept sharing it because the song was fun and funny and people liked doing the horse riding dance you gotta do a dance dance video oh yeah yeah yeah march of of you know executions or whatever okay all right here we go ks says peter schiff believes that bitcoin is a bubble that will
Starting point is 01:36:45 eventually burst like the fiat usd will it would be cool to hear him and andreas debate whether gold or defy will be the new usd it'd be cool to have peter schiff on to talk about uh bitcoin especially as we're looking at it nearing fifty thousand dollars yeah geez i i i you know what i'm so i feel bad for some of my friends because I know a lot of people. I messaged a year ago. Bitcoin was at like seven grand or something. And I got friends. And I got a lot of friends who have money to invest.
Starting point is 01:37:14 And I said, just put it all in Bitcoin. Buy a bunch of Bitcoin right now. And they were like, well, I don't know. We'll see. And I'm like, listen, I'm looking at what's going on in this world. And I'm telling you, buy Bitcoin. And they just didn't want to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Last year, Bitcoin was around $5 five thousand dollars it's 10x basically yeah and there's a lot of people i mean peter schiff really doesn't like bitcoin there's a lot of people saying uh let's check in on peter schiff make sure make sure he's okay because like he was wrong on so many of these issues we have we have a we got a good one right here evan g d says dr stephen greer has been going live on clubhouse and sharing his knowledge of anti-gravity et crafts they are not nuclear look into it very interesting um i invite stephen greer to uh come on our show and and talk to our team of physicists about that and see what they have to say because uh i think we have the subject matter experts beyond what Steven Greer has. Cause I know who's on his team and I know who's on my team. Justin Jarchow asks for the alien scientist.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Do you believe Bob Lazar story? And do you believe Dr. Steven Greer or are both BS artists? I think a lot of the stuff that's, that's mainstream is off point. Um, of course it, I don't think like they're going to dangle the most popular stuff. My channel has been super shadow banned. I've never been able to reach those types of audiences.
Starting point is 01:38:34 This is like my first breakthrough of actually having a large audience. So, I mean, the thing with Bob Lazar is that we invite him to come on and present. And we have so many other physicists with so much real actionable intelligence that we can actually build and test in our laboratory, unlike the Element 115 stuff. That's, you know, it's what's there. What's there for us to look at, really. It's a story. And it's an interesting, fascinating story. It got me interested in this, watching Bob Lazar and Unsolved Mysteries back in the 90s getting getting these ideas or these seeds playing in your head is there you know government research
Starting point is 01:39:09 being done on aliens or is there a secret base you know where they've had these things and sort of my research going through that has led me to some fascinating discoveries which are you know quite interesting um like for instance you know the Roswell stuff did you know that the allegedly the Roswell material went to Wright PatterPatterson Air Force Base after it was flown to Fort Worth? They did this Ramey memo with the, they posed in a press conference room with a weather balloon. And then apparently the real material went to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and was studying in an underground facility at Wright-Patterson. Apparently they had like a whole underground lab that was, underground city essentially built at Wright-Patterson. Apparently they had like a whole underground lab that was,
Starting point is 01:39:46 underground city essentially built at Wright-Patterson in the 40s when they first built Wright-Patterson Airfield, and that they were doing research on this. And that's what led me to Battelle, because Battelle is literally 65 miles away from Dayton, Ohio, in Columbus, Ohio. They were the top metallurgists and one of the top military and industrial contractors at the time, they would have been the perfect place. They would have been the only place that I would have sent metals for analysis if I was
Starting point is 01:40:10 the military back then. If I was the Air Force, that's the first place I would have sent. But what's interesting about Battelle is that we've shown that they run all our national labs. They're also a private corporation, which makes them inaccessible by FOIA. So all this research that they've done, going back to 38, you won't be able to get with FOIAs. And that's been one of the biggest problems in ufology is saying, well, if this material is real and Roswell is real, where's the material going? Where's the paperwork for it?
Starting point is 01:40:35 Private companies? Private companies. There you go. We've got another one here. We've got Aaron Edwards. He says, my old roommate worked for SPA War and DARPA. He had $700 million budgets budgets and darpa have no budget limit per project both are part of the doj no budget limit huh that's amazing no bid contracts
Starting point is 01:40:54 are a real thing oh yeah yep um liquid logic says tim can you raise awareness that currently nobel prize nominee julie nissan is being deprived of his winter clothing since october people should contact a governor of hmp belmarsh prison rob davis absolutely delta sly says we need to re-pursue the research of lab-grown brain organoids and understanding the conscious without moral and ethical restrictions kind of with you on that one i don't know one thing that bob lazar didn't talk about about area 51 was these things called foggles apparently this this is a real thing that when you're outside on base at these secret facilities you have to wear these uh goggles on your head which limit your vision so you can't even see 20 feet in front of you everything's blurred out apparently
Starting point is 01:41:39 they use these on on like pilots and stuff um one of the guys who first guy who talked about that was actually a friend of mine. When I started getting into this back in like 2004, I watched this documentary by this guy named Edgar Foucher talking about, you know, he worked at Area 51. And I made a bunch of videos on this and I started talking about it. And a guy who knew him actually put me in touch with this guy who was a former Area 51 employee out at the base. And I became friends with him and worked like kind of, I talked to him like every day for like a period of like five, six years with this guy, Ed Foucher. But he was the first person to talk about metamaterials and
Starting point is 01:42:13 quasicrystals being part of this research. And that was back in 1998 before like anyone was talking about these materials, which is super fascinating. So I started researching metamaterials and, you know, of course you find out that they're used for invisibility, stealth, and cloaking technology, which why wouldn't they be interested in that? That's an obvious one. But then the other thing with these quasicrystals, these aperiodic crystals,
Starting point is 01:42:35 and Veritasium Channel did a thing on those aperiodic tilings and showed how these symmetries, they're like things that you look at them up close and they don't have any symmetry, but you zoom way out and they suddenly have these symmetries. They're like things that you look at them up close and they don't have any symmetry, but you zoom way out and they suddenly have these symmetries. And they're very interesting. The guy who won the Nobel Prize for quasicrystals
Starting point is 01:42:51 is a guy from Israel's Technion University named Daniel Schechtman. And after he graduated with his material science degree from Technion, he went and did a postdoc at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. Very interesting. All right, we got James that a 14-year-old built a nuclear reactor in their garage in New York.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Google it. I heard about that. Yeah, we've heard about that. We got to invest in these young kids, man. All those new billionaires that got a bunch of money in Bitcoin, this is lots of opportunity to become trillionaires. The first person that does asteroid mining is going to become the world's first trillionaire. And that's what we need to move towards because that's what's going to launch us to this post-scarcity society that we're trying to get to where we don't have money anymore.
Starting point is 01:43:34 We don't have like – there's no concept of that in the future, in the Star Trek society anyways. There's no need for politicians either. We need to get rid of politicians altogether. Oh, pseudoscience. Yeah. Pseudoscience says yeah pseudoscience says hey guys scientist here in industrial science companies file patents because a tech will become or is already well known this allows them to sue for infringement otherwise you'd keep it a secret yep johnny arson with a more pessimistic and sad comment says the universe hasn't contacted us for a reason my My guess? We are an invasive species. They dumped us here. Earth is our
Starting point is 01:44:08 prison. Talk about a negative Nancy there. Prison planet. This is your contact. We're not allowed to leave. Matt Hatter says, I looked up the patent for the inertial mass reduction device and its design is almost identical in form and use to the
Starting point is 01:44:23 EM drive, a sealed conical resonant cavity with microwave emitters pointed into it. Weird coincidence? Yeah. So EM drive. So there's a couple interesting scientists you could look up. One's Woodward, the Woodward effect. He runs the Estes Park Conference, James Woodward.
Starting point is 01:44:41 And we invited all those guys to APAC and stuff. But also Mike McCulloch, there's a there's a company in the UK. He's from Plymouth University. He's written he's got a quantized inertia.com. And he's got a whole bunch of papers on there that he's written. And he's kind of going after that M drive thing. And there's a ton of DARPA funding for M drive. Like we said that there's we like I said, that $500,000 on pays isn't the only thing. M drives are interesting. It's like just a piece of metal that gets vibrated by, what is it, background radiation?
Starting point is 01:45:10 Then it produces thrust? It's a conical cavity. And apparently, it's an asymmetric field that's produced on one side through these forces. And it creates a push. And his theories get rid of the need for dark matter. It gets rid of, you know, dark matter. It explains it as something else. Dark matter is kind of a very big controversy
Starting point is 01:45:34 in physics right now. There's billions of dollars being put into the hunt for dark matter to try and, you know, discover where, you know, prove dark matter is real. The only thing we've gotten close was, you know, the Nobel Prize was given out for this gravitational lensing, apparently prove dark matter is real. The only thing we've gotten close was, you know, the Nobel Prize was given out for this gravitational lensing,
Starting point is 01:45:49 apparently from dark matter and stuff. But I still don't know that there is a hardcore proof of dark matter. And we've wasted so much money looking for dark matter instead of pursuing other theories like this M-drive, which could lead to new propulsion technologies. I got a question for you. It's kind of interesting. As someone who doesn't know as much, but I read somewhere, something about there
Starting point is 01:46:07 should be like an equal amount of antimatter in the universe. Right. Yeah, that's the kind of idea. It's dark matter. There's this missing matter from the puzzle. Is that what they mean by dark matter with antimatter? Antimatter and dark matter are different. This goes back to, you know, Dirac.
Starting point is 01:46:24 What Dirac called Dirac holes. It's basically a missing point in the physics and in the equations. And he was the first person to actually predict dark antimatter, sorry, antimatter, before it was discovered. But we have discovered antimatter. And it's sort of like a fact of nature that, you know, we have all these particles, and each particle has its own antiparticle as well, that exists. And so there's been a lot of experiments with antimatter. There's a guy named Daniel Kaplan who's doing some research into muonium, which is anti-muons, and an exotic atom that forms with an anti-muon and an electron, it creates what's almost like an atom.
Starting point is 01:47:01 It's like a proton, but instead of the nucleus being a proton, it's actually an anti-muon. And it kind of has its own weird properties, but they're trying to produce these and see if they actually fall up in a vacuum because they still don't know whether antimatter falls up or down, but they predict that it will fall down. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:47:17 All right, we got Timothy May says, would you please ask him about water purification using electromagnetism, soft destable ionic bonds, stuck on filtration, working on it since 2003. Yeah. I'm in New Mexico with Beef with Los Alamos Labs.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Ask him if he's ever heard of shungite. It was a material that was discovered, I think, by Henry the Great. I was one of these guys over, there was a deposit of this material called shungite, and they would use it for water purification like the army was using their military was using this material that they'd mine and using it for water purification they actually found out the shungite contained
Starting point is 01:47:55 fullerenes which are you know bucky balls or bucky tubes oh interesting and that that's why it had the such amazing water filtration properties but there's a number of companies working on this, including Justin Tipping Hall right in Connecticut of Nano Holdings. And Nano Holdings are working on a lot of water filtration technologies and stuff like that. We have a very good super chat from Sequitur Tenebris who said, Truck driver here, plenty of secret government facilities around the country, both above and below. And they are very selective of which of which of us deliver uh of which of us deliver and we have a code of silence with locations this is the hold up on uh on ai trucks interesting i believe it that makes a lot of sense and i want to believe
Starting point is 01:48:38 it because i want to believe that there's more out there in life is it so boring there's more out there you ever see those submarines that like go? They'll come in the coast and then they'll just go into the coast, like go under. So I got an interesting tunnel conspiracy theory that I'm trying to investigate right now. I've been going off about the Wright State tunnels. Wright State? So Wright State is a university that was built right next to the original Wright-Patterson Air Force Base before the new Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was built up north. But apparently there's a whole tunnel system that connects all the buildings. There's 1.8 miles of tunnels that connect all the buildings under Wright State University.
Starting point is 01:49:12 And there's conspiracy theories that go around with all the students there that say that there's aliens down there, that these tunnels were used for government research into aliens and stuff, which is kind of interesting because the first building that was built, according to the Wright State University's official website, is actually called Alien Hall, Allen Hall, A-L-L-Y-N, Alien Hall, which is kind of, I thought, was an interesting play on words. But according to their official story, these were HVAC tunnels underneath the school that they remodeled into pedestrian tunnels.
Starting point is 01:49:47 But I don't understand why they'd need HVAC tunnels big enough to drive a car through. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And there's a lot of theories that this was part of an old facility and that there's a wall behind the wall. So we kind of want to do an investigation like one of those UFO hunters shows where we go to right state and see if there's indeed you know there's something hidden in those tunnels under there that's a crap ton of tunnels that the united states government was building because of the cold war so they exist and i'd imagine i'd imagine you know the reality is they're doing research top secret research we know the manhattan project was real and they're researching weapons aliens is a good cover it makes it sound crazy it makes people
Starting point is 01:50:25 think oh you're nuts and they disregard it and then you don't really know what they're working on right they they said a lot of the ufos were stories were spread there's a movie called mirage men which actually takes the position that most of the ufos and alien stories were actually spread by the cia to cover up um the technologies that they were working on so Makes a lot of sense. People see this craft flying around. They're like aliens. What better way to hide it? Bruno Rodriguez says, physicist, I want Bob Lazar to be interviewed by a real scientist. Me, take my money.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Yeah, I agree. Jensen Zager says, as said in Archer, you think there's problems in the Middle East now? Wait until the oil is useless. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was hinting at that, especially when I was talking about Saudi Arabia and the petrodollar. It's coming, and it's going to get nasty. I want to protect those people.
Starting point is 01:51:12 I'm obsessed with building, like, solar-powered water condensation around the desert. Like, our military, I think we should use it to build water for other countries. Saudi Arabia is trying to transition from an oil economy to our tourism tech uh economy and it's not working and it's not going to work yeah that's listen i'm not trying to be mean or anything but there's some civil rights issues i'm not going to go to that country yeah yeah it's not uh lgbtq friendly so so very interesting as luke bring this up we have a super chip from robert miller who said saudi arabia is massively investing in green technology so that's actually a bad example since they clearly see the handwriting on the wall
Starting point is 01:51:46 and are making massive investments in green. Like I said, Saudi Arabia's university over there has some really interesting papers and a whole team that's working on these nanotechnologies and this kind of stuff, these photonic materials. Where they are in the world, they're screwed. As soon as people stop buying their oil, they're screwed. Yeah, it's going to get bad. Adrian says, Tim, Keanu Reeves is in a movie called Chain Reaction.
Starting point is 01:52:10 He was hunted by oil tycoons for using hydrogen fusion to replace fossil fuels. I remember that movie. I've seen it. It was like a murder, and then he's on the run. He's on a motorcycle and stuff. All right. Let's see. What else do we have here?
Starting point is 01:52:23 John Doe says, Some scientists found an application for graphene where they were able to generate electricity by harnessing free energy. Could this be combined with cold fusion to generate electricity instead? See Science Daily for an article. I think the Science Daily article you're talking about is either magic angle graphene, and there's a couple other applications of graphene where they create graphene sandwiches where they put like a layer of superconductor between two layers of graphing or they put a layer of um a different type of material between two layers of graphing and there's a lot perovskites that's the other one that they've done they put a layer of perovskite
Starting point is 01:52:56 so there's a lot of interesting research perovskite a perovskite is well it's a german i'm not in russian uh term for a um it's a even Russian term for a, it's a type of material that conducts protons and produces, it has strange quantum behaviors and quantum effects. All right, we got this from the Scott16. It says, the highest level conspiracy theory. Every single conspiracy theory that we know or will know are false because we are allowed to know them every single one dj madero says the german brothers we named horton yeah they were the builders of the goth 229 flying wing design the operation to steal the nazi scientist was was codenamed paperclip ps became a timcast patron month. Do you mean a member at Timcast.com?
Starting point is 01:53:45 I have a defunct Patreon. You guys shouldn't use it. And do not be confused. If you pay for this channel, I think people can donate to this channel, right? Monthly and become like a paid subscriber. No. Oh, no? Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Yeah, let's go to Timcast.com. People were doing that and thought they were signing up for the website. Hey, before we go to the next chat, you mentioned Alcubierre Warp Drive earlier. Yes. And then you start talking about Battelle. Did they suppress his warp drive technology in the 50s? So this was in the 1970s because it was after Star Trek was 1960, I think 68 or 69 or whatever. I don't remember when Star Trek started.
Starting point is 01:54:21 So this was 1970s that Alcubierre published that paper. It was not suppressed. when Star Trek started. So this was 1970s that Al Cuvier published that paper. It was not suppressed. In fact, NASA, Sonny White of NASA's Advanced Concepts Research Office, he's been writing papers on this, and he's actually been presenting it at Estes Park and a lot of these other conferences and has a lot of work that NASA is doing on this with the Starship program. There's a program that they're working on with NASA right now with Sonny White is the guy's name, Harold White.
Starting point is 01:54:48 And so, no, it hasn't been suppressed. It's just not talked about. The part that has been suppressed is the material science and how to actually achieve it. So the theoretic part is fine, but when you're talking about actually building it and doing it, that part is suppressed. So that would be along to a guy named John Archibald Wheeler, who we talked about, who had written a lot of stuff with Einstein and stuff. And Wheeler did a lot of classified work for Battelle. We have his FBI file. It's quite interesting.
Starting point is 01:55:16 He actually left a whole notebook full of all of our H-bomb secrets on a train one time. Wow. Smart. All right, we got a good one here. Paul Luckett says. But yeah, he was involved in squeeze light research. We just found out recently back in 1985, the stuff that University of Rochester is doing
Starting point is 01:55:35 with what's called polariton condensates or surface plasma on polaritons. That's the research you can look up. We got one from Paul Luckett. He says, Propulsion is only one small part of the space travel problem. We need huge advancements
Starting point is 01:55:49 in every other area of spaceship design. The human body doesn't do very well in space for extended periods. Yep. I've been thinking a lot about having a lot of drones. You know how birds fly in a flock together? And you can build drones to kind of do the same thing where they all move in tandem.
Starting point is 01:56:02 They can like create shapes in space with little laser-like things so they can all work together, build giant craft at once. We have a very important super chat. I have to read it. Sorry if I'm interrupting. But Jonathan Muntz says my grandfather was a top judge for the Air Force at Wright Patterson in charge of contract negotiations. What questions should I ask? He is dying.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Do you have an email? Oh, please email the alien scientist at gmail.com like get in touch with me i would i'll come out there and interview him because i'm going out to right state soon i'm going out to ohio to go do this investigation of the tunnel system and i would love to meet up with you and and and get that and that's jonathan months absolutely awesome that's that's great al says aliens took over the government why do you think they want everyone to do butt swabs i knew it
Starting point is 01:56:50 they don't have to abduct anyone for it anymore in china you heard that right interesting theory yep wow here's a good one will dawson says hey I watched your video about TB12 and Kaepernick. Great video. Kaepernick was ruined by Chip Kelly in the 2015-16 NFL seasons. Tom Brady is the undisputed goat. There we go. Level 99 Mastermind says, we did it, lads. Florida man was caught at the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:57:19 Was it the guy who, like, pulled his pants down and was running around? Did you see that? In a onesie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is cool. John Wright yeah, yeah, yeah. This is cool. John Wright says, Hey guys, I live in eastern Washington and the history of the Manhattan Project
Starting point is 01:57:30 is really interesting. If you ever head out this way, if you ever head out this way to your, the B-reactor, B-reactor, let me know. You can use my land as a base. That's cool. Hey, we're looking for a place
Starting point is 01:57:42 to host a ranch and start a project to move to we can all like work on this together i've been seeing a lot of people have been talking about this idea for a while uh of grassroots effort to actually pull people together and build stuff we have a couple labs right now i'm working with a lot i'm probably gonna stop in new jersey on the way back to our um falcon labs um with my friend mark and do some more research on this alzapfon experiment we're building at that lab currently. But we're definitely trying to get hooked up with more researchers,
Starting point is 01:58:10 more labs, more scientists who are passionate about this and interested in pursuing this type of technology. And that's definitely something we should talk about. Charlie in Charge says the Akashic Records is the name of the theorized force that people like tesla tap into for their huge leaps in knowledge i highly recommend recommend learning about it as it's really it's a really interesting topic have you guys ever heard of that yes i don't know much about it but that's gene roddenberry maybe tapped into that too and who else the akashic records it's like it's like when if we talk about this the other night on the bonus segment how like god or whatever that light energy is we're transmitting energy to's like, it's like when, if we talk about this at the other night on the bonus segment, how like God or whatever,
Starting point is 01:58:45 that light energy is, we're transmitting energy to it. And that it's trying to transmit energy to us, but we're like having a hard time receiving it. Usually we're like desensitized, but if you can somehow receive that energy, that information that it can write information in your brain, maybe this one.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Oh God, do it. That's kind of reminds me of this idea of, you know, that's kind of what I do with alien scientists. The idea behind an alien scientist is that I created this idea of something. It's kind of like what I call channeling, you know, where we say like we're going to envision, I'm going to channel this God and I'm going to vicariously live through this God through myself.
Starting point is 01:59:19 And that gives you God-like powers because you're able to start putting your mind in a different sort of way of thinking about things. So this is like a practice that I do a lot with trying to envision what aliens are thinking, how their physics works. And I've definitely gotten some downloads in my dreams, I must say. In fact, I got one a couple weeks ago that was pretty intense. We talked about it. All right, we got Will Billy the Hillbilly says, what do you think of graphene? Is it an overhyped technology or is it the future magic material?
Starting point is 01:59:53 Graphene is certainly a magic material. Carbon is very interesting. There's a lot of other interesting materials that we're talking about. One is, I put a link in that list I gave you. It was called hydro-dicarbine. It's basically like a 3D printable diamond that they're able to, they can actually 3D print diamond. Is that what they do?
Starting point is 02:00:16 They use like neon gas? It's like a liquid polymer that actually hardens of some kind. It's like the diamonds dissolved in this other carrying agent, and then that evaporates, and it leaves behind this crystal structure that forms into diamond somehow. That's an interesting technology. But again, there's lots of other materials out there, not just graphene. One of the ones is metallic glass or amorphous metals. That's another really
Starting point is 02:00:45 interesting one. They're basically, a glass is formed by like things that cool to, it doesn't actually harden into a crystal. So when you cool things really quickly, it doesn't get to crystallize. It just forms this amorphous blob of, and that turns out that it has really interesting properties for these materials. So these metallic glasses, there's a whole video on metallic glass. They're doing laser etching and polishing of it to create these surfaces which are amiable to the environments. So they can actually make this stuff hydrophobic and hydrophilic by etching it with lasers. Just by changing the nanosurface structure of these materials, it actually changes the physical properties and gives them completely different properties. What happens with its hydrophobic and hydrophilic?
Starting point is 02:01:29 What does that mean exactly? So it's like water pools up on it and goes off it, or like you can actually like put it on, it doesn't get wet. You can put it underwater and pull it out. I think, I'm not exactly sure what the full, the differences between hydrophilic and hydrophobic. One holds the water and one rejects the water? So it could either absorb or reject the water? It's like a hydrophobic surface.
Starting point is 02:01:53 The water just bounces off. And hydrophilic, does that mean it absorbs? I imagine. I don't know. I need to read this. I got to re-brush up on myself. I'm not a subject matter expert on this. I dabble in a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Metallic glass? Can you alloy metallic glass with graphene? One of the interesting things, the main Marcel, Major Marcel, the main guy from Roswell, on his deathbed and in a 1985 interview, he said that it wasn't a weather balloon. It was a material that he couldn't bend or break, that he could fold it up into a ball and then let it go on the table and it would uncrinkle itself and fold itself out mirror smooth again. Now, we have no such material like that. But the closest thing that we have currently is metallic glass because it has this ability like it's like a… He was saying it would fold and hold?
Starting point is 02:02:40 Memory foil. The memory foil from Roswell. There's a bunch of people who describe this metal and a bunch of people, even material scientists from Wright-Patterson, who said that they worked on this type of material. Even a guy from the U.S. Navy who said he had a piece of this in his laboratory. So they tried to drill through it, and they couldn't drill through it with a carbide bit. They wouldn't even drill through this thin foil material. And the only way you can think of—we have stuff like this. We have uncuttable materials. this thin foil material. And the only way you can think of, we have stuff like this.
Starting point is 02:03:06 We have uncuttable materials. And the way that we build those is to actually heat up the blade and destroy the blade before it destroys the material. It heats, it does an action where it will heat up so hot that it will destroy the blade
Starting point is 02:03:17 so that you won't be able to cut it because it destroys your blade. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting stuff, but that's the closest thing we have right now. So it's not just graphing
Starting point is 02:03:25 there's a lot of materials out there here we go titan tech says hey tim been watching for a while normally i love the political content but this content is way more interesting makes me forget about all the awful stuff going on these days this was ian's episode i certainly think so jeremy risk ian's the guy that got me here though really i've had the fortune of working with jeremy for like, two and a half years now. I've been watching your stuff like on YouTube since 2010. When you started talking about quasi crystals, I really that that perked my ears up and realizing, well, OK, if we're really going to focus on solutions, this is the way to go. It's the science.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Here we go. Yvonne Lee says interesting show tonight. Ian was like a nerd in a nerd store. Loved it. Jeremy, anyone told you you look like Pablo Schreiber? Never heard that one before. I heard Fox Mulder. I've heard the scout from Team Fortress 2.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Yeah, there you go. He definitely does. Alright, let's just we'll grab one more right here. Maybe one more. We'll see. Pseudosign says, great show. One more thing. Most tech and chemical companies ask you to sign over rights to patents made under their employee sucks but yeah definitely yeah like
Starting point is 02:04:31 microsoft and a lot of these companies they say like apple was one of them they said like you know whatever you invent while you're an employee of us uh is a result of the you know intellectual experiences that you gain through being access to our great company. And so we own anything that you invent. And that's like even if you go home at the end of the day and write something in your basement, they still want that if you're employed. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 02:04:53 All right. Here, we'll do one more. Stormman says, Tim, World War I was not started for what think. It was started to put the world into oil because it was cheap. World War I also stopped all research on free energy. Is that true? They on free energy is that true they stopped energy free energy research no there's lots of free energy research going on and it goes i've seen all those all those youtube videos where the guy has the what's that thing
Starting point is 02:05:14 called where it's like they're jars with liquid in it and then the wheel spins and the the the water drops and then it makes the weight you know what i mean you know i'm talking about yes yeah oh yeah those things that's not that's not real, though, I imagine, right? I've never seen one that works. If they got one that's real. There was one interesting video I watched a long time ago where it was actually, I think, from an honest person where they were explaining how to create a, air quote, perpetual motion.
Starting point is 02:05:40 But what they said was it simply worked by absorbing sunlight and then, you know then heating and cooling metal. So one side would become lighter or hotter because of the sunlight. The other side would go into a shaded area based on the way that they built it, and that could actually make movement. But they were like, basically, I just made a really crappy solar wheel. Well, when you talk about light-matter coupling, what do you think photosynthesis is? Yeah. Plants eating that sunlight.
Starting point is 02:06:06 It's plants doing this. All right. Okay, so we make machines that can do that. They're already making artificial leaves. They're already making machines that can do this. I mean, we have solar panels, bro. Yeah, so we have solar panels. You talked about using magnesium as the body of a craft, potentially,
Starting point is 02:06:22 and that's the atom that's at the center of every chlorophyll molecule we talk about magnesium yeah magnesium is an interesting thing it's no what is it what not magnesium it's bismuth actually bismuth is uh that has the highest diamagnetism it's like the highest spin of any um of any element and so if we're kind of like you kind of think of it as like a pendulum or a flywheel in this material and if we get a sheet of this bismuth because it has this highest diamagnetism, it's really great to build waveguides out of this material because it reacts so quickly and so readily to spin more fast, more quickly than any other element on the periodic table.
Starting point is 02:06:58 Interesting. Well, not magnesium. I don't know. But they had magnesium layers. So they had this layer of metamaterial, apparently that was given to um it was came from arts parts this came from like art bell on coast to coast he had gotten like material sent to him by viewers at coast to coast were like look i have pieces of roswell debris let me send it to you so if anybody has pieces of roswell debris that they can legally send me p.o box on the? I think. We'll figure it out.
Starting point is 02:07:26 So apparently Jack Villay has some pieces of this stuff and that's what he brought to Gary Nolan's lab and is doing tests on and stuff. Apparently they had some of this material and destructive analysis doesn't work if we're talking about atomically structured material that's made
Starting point is 02:07:41 on the atomic level. We're talking about photonic crystals and atomic level, like these, what we're talking about, photonic crystals and photonic circuits. This is where we're going technologically with our electronics currently, is bridging what's called the terahertz gap. So there's actually a gap in the electromagnetic spectrum that we can't really interact with, and it's called the terahertz gap. And it's on the level of wavelengths that are where matter is and what matter what
Starting point is 02:08:05 the wavelengths that correspond to the sizes of of material objects of all the interesting all the elements on this table and when we once we do that it's called it's going to be like a merger of electronics with uh photonics and there's going to be there's going to be a replacement of all our technology we're not going to be using electronic devices we're going to be using more um quantum based devices that that rely on photonic effects in fact there's already technology. We're not going to be using electronic devices. We're going to be using more quantum-based devices that rely on photonic effects. In fact, there's already electret microphones in your cell phone. It has an electret microphone. The microphone in your cell phone works on this sort of more solid-state physics technology as opposed to the old-school condenser microphones that we're
Starting point is 02:08:41 working through here, which are older technology. So very, very interesting. Just interesting to wrap it around you had a bismuth layer but a magnesium layer underneath yeah so that material so that material back to that material from the art bell stuff so they sent this material apparently to the u.s army for and got a uh this crata agreement with the u.s army where they sent this material off for analysis and supposedly the u.s army is going to tell us stuff about it but they have pictures of this material and it analysis, and supposedly the U.S. Army is going to tell us stuff about it. But they have pictures of this material, and they show us the micron layer of this. And it's magnesium layers and bismuth layers in this material with monatomic iridium, I guess, on the very surface. And that's sort of a material we're interested in trying to attempt to create, looking at different manufacturers that can create this material so that we could test it in our lab.
Starting point is 02:09:25 But again, I don't know if that is really alien technology or an alien metal. That would be super interesting. And I'm definitely interested in studying that kind of stuff. Read it. Well, Jeremy. Looking into it. This is a lot of people that chat are like, Tim's trying so hard to end the podcast. I know.
Starting point is 02:09:40 I keep going. Jeremy, thanks for hanging out. You said a lot of words I didn't understand. And that's kind of the point. I think I grasped enough of it. I think we had a pretty good conversation jeremy thanks for hanging out you said a lot of words uh i didn't understand and that's kind of the point um i think i i grasped enough of it i think we had a pretty good conversation so thanks for hanging out for those that are listening smash that like button on your way out go to timcast.com become a member and we will have a bonus segment coming up so thank you all so much you can follow me on instagram twitter minds at timcast my other youtube channels are youtube.com slash TimCast, YouTube.com slash TimCastNews.
Starting point is 02:10:06 We are live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. And again, TimCast.com, become a member. Jeremy, is there anything you want to mention? Yeah, if you're interested in science, you go to Alienscientist.com, YouTube, Alien Scientist, also AmericanAntigravity.com. That's where we're working with Tim. We have a conference coming up this weekend.
Starting point is 02:10:23 We're going to have a guy from Boeing, and we're going to have a guy from Airbus on to talk about their research into anti-gravity. Wow. So, uh, it's, it's, it's happening, bro. We're getting more people emboldening them, letting them, it's okay to come out of the woodwork. It's okay to, to, to release this to the public. Now it's been better hands with the public than it could ever be with the corrupt, horrible
Starting point is 02:10:43 politicians that are in control right now. Right on. You know, even though I didn't understand the majority of what you said, it's very refreshing to have this conversation. And I'm happy we're talking about this and not CNN, again, ragging on the QAnon shaman and his organic food, which they just wrote a piece about right now. And it's frustrating. And it was really interesting and thought provoking.
Starting point is 02:11:01 It was great to see Ian having his moments. And of course, thank you guys for joining us. If you want to support me and what I do, you can by purchasing the shirt that I'm wearing right now that says, FYI, the government is way deadlier than any virus. And you could get that shirt on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. I'm also a YouTuber. My channel is We Are Change,
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Starting point is 02:11:49 Yeah. So just saying. Bonus segment. I want to give a special shout out to graphene. My long, long time. I will forever love you. 2029 peak graphene. So get ready for it.
Starting point is 02:11:57 Jeremy, thanks so much for coming, man. Tim, Luke, Lydia. I didn't get to mention quantum radar. We'll have to do a bonus segment about that. What is it? Quantum radar is basically like radar, but you entangle your photons so that you can tell if you can see invisible things. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 02:12:11 And apparently the military, there's an article you can look up called The Short Life of Quantum Radar, and it talks about how they built this system, deployed it to the military, and they received too many false positives, so they took it out. It was too good. They were like,
Starting point is 02:12:25 oh, okay. All right, we just opened up the sky to all the invisible stuff flying around out there. Oh, shit. Well, before I forget, let me shout out my,
Starting point is 02:12:33 at Ian Crossland, you can follow me on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Mines, and Instagram and also on twitch.tv
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Starting point is 02:12:51 Go to TimCast.com. Become a member if you want to watch more members-only content. It is just you scroll down. You go to the website. You scroll down a little bit. It says members-only. There's a bunch of posts. We even have full episodes.
Starting point is 02:13:01 There's two full bonus episodes. One's an hour long talking about religion. Most are like 10 to 15 minutes, but we will have more coming up soon, so we will see you all there. And thank you all so much for hanging out. Bye, guys.

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