Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #220 - France Declares Far left Wokeness is DESTROYING Society w/Siraj Hashmi

Episode Date: February 10, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia sit down with Siraj Hashmi of the Washington Examiner and keeper of the esteemed List Of People Who Need Their Phones Taken Away on Twitter to discuss France's alarm at Ameri...can leftism, the LA Times columnist who worries that her neighbors who disagree with her politically are being nice, Joe Rogan as the next Rush Limbaugh, and voters leaving the GOP.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, we have long held conversations here in the TimCast IRL podcast about wokeness, critical theory, critical race theory, gender ideology, and its negative impacts for the most part on our society. It is one of the principal factors in the culture war, which is tearing the United States apart, in my opinion. And now France has basically come out saying that we've got Emmanuel Macron, president of France, basically saying that these ideas are dangerous. But now intellectuals and politicians in France are France are basically saying the idea of the ideology coming out of American universities, this this critical theory, this far left wokeness is destroying French identity and destroying the country. And this is coming from people viewed as being on the left. And I got to say, they're not wrong. We're looking at the big story of the day, impeachment, which is completely meaningless. But it's tribalism. This tribalism is a key element of what's splitting apart,
Starting point is 00:00:59 not just the United States, but other countries. Impeachment is meaningless. We know it's not going to happen. We know that 47 Republicans already said no. Yes, they're going to be moving forward, but it seems to be a big waste of time to try and impeach a president who's a former president. He's not even in office anymore. So we're not even going to get into it. It just seems like there's no reason to. The bigger issue, in my opinion, is the root cause of all this. And as everybody basically knows, well, not everybody, but politics is downstream from culture. What starts in the cultural arena eventually moves into the political spaces. So now we're finally seeing some people in government, notably in France, waking up to the problems being caused by this critical theory. Unfortunately, we had Trump who didn't necessarily realize it,
Starting point is 00:01:39 but at least took action against it. Now France is kind of waking up to this. And there are a few other stories in the periphery of this. We have this ridiculous story of this, I think it's an LA Times columnist complaining that her Trump supporting neighbors who politely shoveled her driveway were like Nazis. And what should she do? Oh no, this huge problem. We have some random dude, and this one really triggered Luke, going on Twitter and claiming that Cracker Barrel was racist and making up some insane story. This is so ridiculous. This this this whatever is going on in this far left wokeness stuff that we've long talked about, we can see it's just it's still happening. It's getting worse. Maybe with France stepping up and actually saying something about it, maybe maybe there can be some changes made. I got to admit, I'm not entirely confident. So
Starting point is 00:02:24 we'll get we'll get into all this. We'll talk about some of the other news that's going on today. We are being joined today by, in this space especially, one of the most important individuals. We have Siraj Hajmi, who is a journalist with the Washington Examiner. But Siraj has the list. It is a list of people who should have their phones taken away for what, bad tweets, right? Usually bad, cringeworthy. I try to keep the food takes out of it because there are a lot of bad food takes out there. Food takes? But mostly bad tweets and cringeworthy tweets, for sure. And this is cross-spectrum. It doesn't matter if you're left or right. If you have a dumb tweet,
Starting point is 00:02:58 you get put on the list. Yeah. You know, it actually, I did a, on Super Bowl Sunday, I released an all-decade list. So from 2011 to 2020. I capped it at 10, because if I did more than 10, I'd kill myself. But I found that the number one person above all, everyone else, was Anthony Weiner, deserving to have his phone taken the most. Because if you remember, in May 2011, he sent a picture of his junk to one of his followers, resulting in him resigning from Congress. A minor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And then that was later. That was 2016. Oh, wow. That was later. He did it more than once? Yeah. So it was later. His name is Wienertipp.
Starting point is 00:03:39 So, yeah, obviously, it's so on the nose. And what makes it worse, obviously, is that when he was found to have been sexting a minor, a 15-year-old girl, they opened up a criminal investigation on him. That's when the FBI seized his laptop. That's when, on the laptop the 2016 presidential election james comey sent a letter to the senate judiciary committee saying he's resulting in investigation 11 days before the presidential election 2016 as we all know what happened and i'm not going to say that that alone is why hillary clinton lost but it didn't help her and so he was number one number two i put world health organization good good uh just for the tweet last year about saying that uh covid was not uh contracted from human to human
Starting point is 00:04:31 or it can be transmitted air transmission yeah um and then third and i'll just cap it at three was uh former pittsburgh steelers uh running back rashard mendenhall who after the Navy SEAL Team 6 raid that killed Osama bin Laden, basically tweeted out how could so many people be celebrating one man's death? Like there's got to be another side to this story. Whoa. What? Yeah. Conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. And you mentioned too that you've had Trump on the list at some point. I've had him on the list a lot. I would say the person I've had on the list the most, though, is Washington Post blogger Jennifer Rubin.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Ah, yeah, yeah. I was going to say about Trump, though, they took his phone away. They did. They did. So, you know, once they actually suspend the Twitter account, they retire from the list because the list works. He's free. Yeah. All right. Cool, man. We'll get into this the list because the list works. He's free. All right, cool, man.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We'll get into this stuff. We also got Luke. He's hanging out. You know, I'm making my own list, Tim, right now as we're speaking. I heard Congress is impeaching presidents for violating the Constitution. I have a long list of presidents I want to give to Congress specifically about that. Well, hold on. In terms of – I saw one person tweet, we should remove these people who violated their oath of the constitution uh we should remove people who
Starting point is 00:05:48 voted to uh support trump's objection by remove you know let me clarify they said the people who voted to support donald trump and his objection to steal the election violated their oath of the constitution and should be expelled and i was like okay i think we have a list of what like 430 names that that fall into the violating the oath of the Constitution. So I'm game. If they're like, we're going to expel for this reason, let's roll. I got a big list.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I'm optimistic. A lot of presidents violated the Constitution. But anyway, today I also launched a t-shirt that I'm very excited about. It's of Bill Hicks. So I have to say this. Stop saying it's the Alex Jones t-shirt. It's not. It's the Bill Hicks t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And you can get that shirt and the shirt that I'm wearing right now on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. And because you do, I'm here. And thank you very much for having me. We got Ian Schillen. What up, everybody? I'm just going to give a little pre-warning. This isn't my wheelhouse, this episode. So I'm going to try to keep my...
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yesterday, you were on a roll. I was on fire. Bring a fusion and I'm all in. Electromagnetic vibrations. I'm going to try to keep my... Yesterday, you were on a roll. I was on fire. Bring a fusion and I'm all in. Electromagnetic vibrations. I'm going to try to smooth this one through. Although I thought it was interesting what you were saying about the French kind of calling out this wokeness. Because Americans have this tendency towards Puritanism. We always have.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And it's almost like this is like modern-day Puritanism. Don't say those mean words about me. And the French were like the reason we were able to win the revolution. It's this like European liberalism, like real liberalism. And they were literally the Jacobins. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 It was, yeah, it was right before. That was the French Revolution. The revolutionaries took hold, but it was. So if anybody is on the left. It was Louis XIV. He bankrupted the country of France to basically to fund the Americans to beat the British.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Right, right. Well then. Well, we also got Sour Patch Lids pressing all the buttons. Yep, I am over here in the corner, and I am also intrigued by France's role in this because a lot of these bad ideas, from my understanding, came from there. Yes, and we're going to get into these stories. Before we do, head over to timcast.com, become a member. We have set up this website with members-only content.
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Starting point is 00:08:28 Let's check out this story. This is amazingly from the New York Times. Will American ideas tear France apart? Some of its leaders think so. Politicians and prominent intellectuals say social theories from the US on race, gender and post-colonialism are a threat to French identity and the French Republic. Now, that is amazing. They say high profile intellectuals and journalists are warning that progressive American ideas specifically on race, gender,
Starting point is 00:08:57 post-colonialism are undermining their society. There's a battle to wage against an intellectual matrix from American universities, warn Mr. Macron's education minister. Emboldened by these comments, prominent intellectuals have banded together against what they regard as contamination by the out-of-control woke leftism of American campuses and attended cancel culture of all of the countries in Europe that we would point to. France is particularly left, not the like everyone likes to point to Scandinavia, but come on, the French Revolution, the leftists, the socialists, the Jacobins. I'm not saying that they're the furthest left, but, you know, they're one of the examples people cite, especially considering Jacobin magazine is a socialist magazine. And they're
Starting point is 00:09:39 stepping up and saying, nah, it's all this stuff, which is good because in my opinion, the wokeness on the left is infecting left ideas and turning it into a weird dogmatic cult ideology that makes no sense. And I saw the best tweet to explain it. You guys, I want to hear your thoughts on this. I saw a really wonderful tweet breaking down like gender ideology. They said sexism is when you say when someone says that women should be, you know, they believe doing the dishes, you know, not men. Feminism is when the woman comes out and says both men and women can be doing the dishes. And gender ideology says anybody who does the dishes is a woman. You get it?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Like that's that's pretty like I saw that and I was like, that's actually a good example of, like, what's happening. Because you look at actual traditional feminism and it's like women and men can wear whatever they want. Now, in the modern era of this critical theory, it's whoever wears feminine clothes is a woman and whoever wears masculine clothes is a man, which is not, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's actually kind of interesting, and just because I'm a practicing Muslim and this story in France impacts me in a way because of obviously the struggles
Starting point is 00:10:55 that the French people have had with sort of this rising threat of Islamic terrorism in the last decade. But with respect to your point about whoever wears women's clothes and men's clothes, I've read, obviously, in religious, in Islamic scripture, that a sign of the end of times
Starting point is 00:11:17 is when you cannot tell the difference between men and women. Is that really in there? Yeah. It's kind of scary in a way. Again, this is religious stuff. If you subscribe to the Islamic faith, you probably know what I'm talking about. But religion obviously isn't for everyone.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And it's all based on faith. I mean, I do believe in a God. I do believe that there is a life after this one. But I am not going to be dogmatic and just preach to you what is right and what is wrong. But with respect to this, about this sort of, you mentioned the word contagion. That is obviously very fascinating because for the longest time, at least for the last like century, the Red Scare has been considered long held in Europe as like an international contagion, this threat of communism that is going to jump from one country to the next.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And for it to kind of be turned on its head and say that that's coming from the United States based on how woke everyone has become, it's pretty stunning, really. The Daily Mail had an interesting blurb about this that i think describes everything that we're talking about and they said quote they are arguing that american ideas on race gender post-colonialisms especially those coming from u.s universities are undermining french society and are an attack on french heritage i mean that's a pretty bold statement and of course a lot of people would agree but a lot of people are even scared to agree to that because of our current political climate and to have france of all countries call it out is extremely interesting especially with individuals like emmanuel macron a former rothschild banker who was deemed the savior of europe he was deemed as this superstar the
Starting point is 00:13:00 mainstream media loved him we were there were you there with me when we were there for Emmanuel Macron's kind of celebration when he won? The streets were jam-packed everywhere. Everyone loved him. Then he came in, and then he started doing austerity measures. And then he started cutting social services. Are you sure, though? And then people were freaked out.
Starting point is 00:13:20 And then I covered so many riots in France. If anyone knows how to protest, it is the French people. They got crazy. They got intense. And we have seen levels of violence with the yellow vests that we haven't seen before in decades with the civil unrest that unfolded because of Emmanuel Macron. So to see him now say these kind of
Starting point is 00:13:38 things that are against the establishment is interesting. But also, according to the New York Times, he's only doing this because he's trying to court the right during the next election but that's the new york times what the new york times is wokeness is is is only weirdly left wing it's not economic well it's promoted by the establishment right promoted by the mainstream media the same mainstream media that kind of boasted him up and made him as popular as he is that's that's that's the contradicting point here that i wanted to point out. There are a lot of leftists who are anti-woke. There's just not enough willing
Starting point is 00:14:09 to speak out and call it out. But there was a shout out to Rania Kalik, who's an anti-war progressive, who wrote about or she made a video. It was really funny and probably really offensive to these people called woke washing, where it's like you get the military industrial complex and it's like, good news, everybody. The CEOs of all the biggest defense contractors are women. We've won. It's like, well, they're blowing up kids. It's OK.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It is a woman of color doing it. Like if that is the measure of success, we got serious problems. I was going to say, Luke, with people celebrating in the streets when macron won and it suddenly dawned on me that the 2017 french election has so many parallels to the 2020 election just because the candidates involved i mean are you sure yeah i was just gonna ask him like were people celebrating the streets because it was marine le pen who wasn't elected because that's what it sounds like and you get someone who's kind of as milquetoast as between Biden and Macron. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And I think there are a lot of people who are like, yeah, I expected Biden to suck. I didn't expect him to... I did not expect Biden to be this terrible this quickly. Well, if you look at the way he was highlighted, I mean, there was a lot of controversies surrounding his banker past. And that was kind of shrugged underneath the rug. And when you were really seeing him, he was seen as an all-star. He was literally praised as the man who's going to save Europe. And people were so angry at him
Starting point is 00:15:30 and so disappointed. There was literal chemical agents and evacuation plans made for the Paris capital for government officials because of how serious the protests got. I can't tell you the level of intensity. I mean, I don't even, you know, for I got PTSD from what I saw at the Paris protests. And I don't even want to talk about all the gory details. But some of the most intense street fighting I have ever seen in my life happened because of this outrage against Macron. A lot of people are angry with him. So this could be a larger political ploy. I hope not. I don't trust Macron, but he does bring up good points here. Let's be real. Macron is saying this. People the left don't view macron as left wing you know he's a he's a
Starting point is 00:16:10 bankster he's a he's far right as a nationalist all of those things so they viewed you know him it's you know i guess what the problem is left it's similar here with joe biden they're like joe biden's bad but trump is worse they're like joe biden Biden's bad, but Trump is worse. They're like, Joe Biden's actually a Republican, but Trump is a fascist. And it's like, OK. But, you know, they view Macron similarly. Marine Le Pen was a fascist. And, you know, Emmanuel Macron is just far right. So they're like, it's better, I guess.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But they'll still protest it. Yeah. I don't know how they I mean, I know the French elections are like almost like a jungle primary, like in California. They basically get the top two vote gethers, and then they, you know, have that runoff. That's the thing is like the Overton window and just the global political spectrum has shifted so far to the left, yet everybody keeps backlashing against it and voting people who are just so far to the right of that. I mean, Joe Biden, I've, you know, from like the Charlie Kirks of the world the trump campaign saying that like joe biden is actually a trojan horse for horse for socialism
Starting point is 00:17:11 the guy has always been a corporatist like he's only put big wall street k street people into his administration to be fair that is corporate socialism at the very least you know the big companies get their bailouts. They get their money printed for them, and then everyone else gets the crumbs. Look, when I hear the left complain about that stuff, I'm like, you're correct. I agree. I think socialism is bad. You're mad they're giving it to the corporations.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I'm mad about it in general, but also that they're giving it to the corporations. And I don't want socialism, but I think we can agree when they print money and just give it to transfer the wealth and the people to the top political elites and establishment elites. That's messed up. Yeah, I mean just look at these PPP loans. I love Tom Brady. I grew up in New England. I'm a huge New England Patriots fan, and Tom Brady is a god amongst men. Why the hell is his company, TB12, getting PPP loans?
Starting point is 00:18:04 It's crazy. I mean, I'm fine with companies getting access to money to pay their employees. Just because a company is big doesn't mean they probably still have employees to pay. The problem is that people can't spend money outside of, for the most part, big box stores and Amazon. Right. And so that's funneling all of the stimulus and PPP money back into the hands of major corporations where they can then stockpile it. If you think that's the problem, wait until you find out about the military-industrial complex and corporate welfare that happens in the sea. I will tell you this.
Starting point is 00:18:33 You almost made me spit out my water. The reason why I ever became involved – not involved, but ever got engaged in politics was because of the military-industrial complex, particularly the invasion of the Iraq war. I got it. I got it. I got to tell this funny Iraq war. I got to tell this funny joke. I just heard Luke. You have to ask me a question.
Starting point is 00:18:51 You have to ask me what's the most common French phrase. What's the most common French phrase? I give up. That's it. Get it. It's funny, right? I give up.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Are we allowed to make jokes like that on YouTube? I wouldn't be surprised if we get banned for that. You don't know what it is? It was a... Just kidding. Just kidding. World War I reference. No, World War II reference.
Starting point is 00:19:13 World War II reference. It was in the movie The Medusera Goats. They get into a vehicle with some Russian guys, and he's complaining about the French, and he looks over to his friends, and he's like, hey, what's the most common French phrase? And he leans over, I give up, and they all start laughing i give up uh french surrender jokes never get old right but to add to the point that you were saying uh you made a very good point especially with this woke culture because you know the guy who created mass incarceration and a cop don't really say you're woke don't really kind of support you know they
Starting point is 00:19:40 say they support black lives matter but that's what happens culturally it's used to divide and conquer us and then the big institutional powers push in their kind of puppet establishment candidates they come in and then they rule just like they ruled before with people thinking that something's going to change when it's not joe biden is literally the institutional racism they complain about yes i mean black lives matter endorses the guy and then you know 40 days after he gets elected or not after he gets elected they're like we still haven't heard from joe biden he's not talking i'm just amazed that like joe biden co-sponsored the 1994 crime bill and hillary clinton gets more flack for it for seeing the word super predator yeah to this day i just don't understand it because joe biden is
Starting point is 00:20:23 like fumbly bumbly joe you know no i mean i get it like the maybe my favorite ever joe biden moment was when he was vice president and the onion ran the diamond joe biden series on him just made him look like he was a loose cannon you know he had the this is the big effing deal, all that, all that stuff. It was funny. I feel like people just like to gloss over that stuff. But you also, Luke, you bring up an interesting point about, so like, the adoption of Black Lives Matter. It's just amazing how so many of these global corporations, and they're global corporations, no longer, it's no longer such a thing as corporate america because these countries have basically fled the fled the united states and they go to the countries like china they go to southeast asia for basically tax shelters
Starting point is 00:21:13 when it comes to things like black lives matter and racial equity or what have you they rather flock to the chinese communist Party and get that sweet, sweet revenue. Yeah. Like through Nike, through Disney, say that they support like equal justice for all. And then on the other side of the Pacific, you have the Chinese Communist Party locking up a million plus Uyghur Muslims just for the crime of practicing their faith. That's true.
Starting point is 00:21:45 But, you know, shout out to Disney for giving a thank you to the paramilitary group that's actually enforcing that because they helped make Mulan. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. It's that. I mean, like. Talk about woke, huh?
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah. Talk about woke. I know Biden appointed, you know, the former Disney representative to be the envoy to China. Very fitting. So everything works great. I love being lectured, you know, by all these politicians, corporations, the entertainment industry,
Starting point is 00:22:10 Silicon Valley about racism and injustice. When it comes to China, they're absolutely silent about it. They won't dare talk about the actual racism and injustices that happen there, since, of course, they get money from them, and that's crazy. I got to ask, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:39 what is it that creates this kind of person who lines up in lockstep with massive multinational corporations, the most notorious human rights abusers, to claim they have moral authority over anybody? It's like the people standing next to McDonald's and Starbucks and Nike are like, we're morally just and you're the bad guys. You know what it is? It is – I mean all politics is local. When you don't have sort of add the human element of say, for example, say if there are one million Americans who are locked up in the Chinese – in these re-education camps, then Americans might actually care about it. But until that happens, these are foreign distant people. We'd never heard of them before. And therefore, I would have agreed with you maybe four or five years ago.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But now you've got articles in the nation where they're like, I'm for prison abolition, but I want all of these Trump insurrectionists locked up. Yeah. If they came out and they were like, China has detained one million Trump supporters, people in this country would be like, it's tough. But, you know, this real threat is important that these people are seeking help. I mean, they're literally calling for truth and reconciliation commissions. They've legit been doing it for some time now. And it's only a matter of time. I mean, they're gonna start firing people. Yeah, they're slowly like there's this creep going on, where one day they'll say, it's really bad that, you know, this racist person did this thing.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Two days later, they'll say this is the most dangerous thing we've ever seen in our lives. Then a week later, they'll say we're literally facing extinction because of what this man did. Like every day, whatever this one thing was, they exaggerated. And so I'll give you an example. The January 6th incident, right, with the storming of the Capitol, it was definitely bad. These people stormed in. But what they keep – they've like completely forgotten or purposefully flubbed over what really happened. Some people stormed to the front fighting with cops, pepper spraying them, hitting them, all that bad stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And a lot of people walked leisurely through the doors that were opened by police and took selfies with police officers. So that's all forgotten and now all that anyone remembers of that day is like a horde of violent insurrectionists with a plan there was no plan people have no idea what they were doing now they're trying to impeach a president over it yeah but my favorite thing is is how aoc turns that day into she like she fabricates this story and i mean it she literally fabricated a story because all that people remember about the six was a storming of the Capitol. They ignore the entire morning of and what happened. So now AOC can claim in the early afternoon something happened that made no sense.
Starting point is 00:24:55 It's like we forget essentially what happened on the day and they gaslight us over and over again to make it seem worse than it really is. That's like leading to this dramatic escalation where we could get to a point. We're at a point where they're basically like we should bring the domestic war, the war on terror home domestically to go after the Trump supporting extremists. There's like a lack of critical thinking or like a short sightedness. I'm not sure exactly how to phrase it that I think a lot of people suffer from. I don't really surround myself with those people. I'm used to hanging out with like people that actually like think about
Starting point is 00:25:27 the past and like equate that with what's going on and like think about it so but i think a lot of people just are kind of driven by like like a lack of memory maybe they don't have as good of a memory or something lemmings well i mean there are actual scientific studies that your memory tends to worsen during a traumatic event, or at least the correlation between your memory not being as good. That's why, you know, when it's so important during criminal prosecutions and trials that you have multiple accounts, you can use forensic evidence to try to prove a particular suspect or defendant committed a particular crime because people's memories are very unreliable now. And I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:11 we were talking obviously before the show about AOC's timeline. You know, it's so difficult for people to sort of, I'd say the biggest folly of all of that is that they, a lot of journalists who are covering that did not take a step back to actually fact check exactly what was going on. And they just took it at face value. Not even conservatives. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 It took – so we'll give everyone the context. AOC tells this story, and we've talked about it quite a bit, about being in the Capitol and fearing for her life, thinking she was going to die because a cop was knocking on the door and she didn't know it was a cop. So everyone just kind of took it at face value. And then Michael Tracy, a journalist, made a comment that she was manipulative. And that became the news cycle. A day later, someone went, hey, wait a minute. She wasn't even in the Capitol building. The story she was telling was she was in her office.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And everyone went, whoa, she wasn't even at the riot? And then I saw everyone, you know, even Ben Shapiro were pointing this out saying, you know, maybe she was scared, but she wasn't even in the Capitol. And so I did this tweet. And I had a journalist from Huffington Post hit me up saying my timeline was wrong. I was basically saying she was exaggerating the story because the evacuation she referenced, everybody was leisurely strolling through the building like nothing was happening. So her claiming she was fearing for her life when everyone was fine. Well, I deleted my tweet because he told me that I was wrong and I believed him. Turns out he was wrong. Everybody was wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:30 AOC's story about being pinned down in her room while someone banged on the door happened a full hour and 10 minutes before anyone stormed any building, before the Capitol was breached. So what happens is now that it's been a month and most people have forgotten the timeline of that day and they only remember the snippet of people stormed the Capitol. It was scary. When AOC comes out and says someone banged on my door, it was scary. They instantly just mash that day into one moment, ignoring the timeline of events. And then you realize AOC fabricated that story. There's literally no way she thought, quote, they got in when no one had any idea that was going to happen. I was watching the Twitter feeds. I was watching the live streams.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I was watching Trump's speech. And at 1 p.m., I uploaded a video where I said, it's over. Everyone's going to leave. That's it. It's boring. Nothing's going to happen. Literally at the exact same time she thought the world was ending. I was saying it's nothing's happening. It's over. And then an hour and 10 minutes later, they bre the building so she makes this stuff up you what's even worse is how you get even the fact checkers like from snopes uh then using their gravitas and authority to basically in a february 3rd article uh titled did aoc exaggerate the danger she was in during the capital riot they rank it mostly false and then they say what's true ocasio-cortez wasn't in the main capital building where the house and
Starting point is 00:28:51 senate chambers are located but think about that they try to argue yes they're like she wasn't in the building yeah but the people were storming it and she was scared and i'm like no that was our it was over an hour later and they didn't evacuate the House chamber until 2.39. So what? A full hour and what is this? It was an hour and 40 minutes later, they finally evacuated. And they're claiming she didn't exaggerate. Well, I mean, they did say here's this is what they said.
Starting point is 00:29:19 What's false? However, Ocasio-Cortez never claimed to be in the main Capitol building. When the attack on the Capitol began, Ocasio-Cortez was, as she stated, in her congressional office, which is located in the network of office buildings. And that's not true. She wasn't in her office at the time. She was evacuated at 1 o'clock before the storm. Before the storm. Yeah, what does it say specifically?
Starting point is 00:29:36 Can you read that? Yeah, which is located in a network of – No, no, it said when the riot happened. Is that what it says? What is the exact quote? When the attack began on the Capitol. Oh, okay, right, right, right. And so you could argue that the breaching of the barricade was an attack they'll they'll get semantic on you right they'll move the goalposts but but aoc was evacuated they
Starting point is 00:29:54 did give the all clear at 153 so maybe she went back to her office which would be very strange for her story i was terrified they were to kill me so i went back to my office as the right was happening and that's why they came kicking her door down looking for her basically they didn't go to her they never went to her building they're like open up where is she that was a cop yeah at one o'clock she didn't report to where she was supposed to be no no did you ever figure out why yes a cop was going and telling everybody they were clearing the building because of a bomb scare okay that was according to huffington post reporter that because there was a bomb planted at the rnc which is just right outside longworth and Cannon.
Starting point is 00:30:29 So what made her think someone knocking on her door was they got in and this was the end of her life? She had no idea. Panic attack. Yeah. But that's deep paranoia. Or she's just lying. And also, she said in her video that she thought the Capitol Police officer was possibly in on the riot.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Again, how could she possibly have known that without having seen any of the footage of, say, any of the Capitol Police officers taking selfies with some of the protesters? Yeah, that didn't happen. How would she know that? This almost seems like a memory that she formed herself after the fact.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Or she's just making it up. Or she's making it up. When a cop kicks the door in and she has that much fear and distrust. He didn't kick the door in. He knocked on the door and they let her in. When he came in, yeah, when he was allowed in and she had so much fear and distrust of someone in uniform.
Starting point is 00:31:12 No, no. That makes me nervous. Or was he playing clothes? She didn't know who was knocking at the door. He was in uniform. Someone knocked on the door and she ran and hid in the bathroom. And the guy let her in. And then she looked at him in the eyes.
Starting point is 00:31:22 She said that he looked like he wanted to kill her. He wanted to hurt her. She's like, i don't know if i'm projecting he knocked on the door that amount of fear and paranoia that she was exuding is dangerous for someone in congress to have right you're right but he knocked on the door and then this person said go run hide why her her assistant told her to run and hide because someone knocked on their door i don't know these people are nuts man but let's let's move forward i want to keep on the critical race theory stuff because we have this story from the new york post la times columnist blasted for comparing trump supporting neighbors to nazi sympathizers this is the level
Starting point is 00:31:53 of depravity that we're starting to see you know we were just mentioning in the previous segment that you could probably take a million trump supporters put them in one of these reeducation camps and the left would be like good good. It's a good thing. Here's the story. They say L.A. Times columnist Virginia Hefferman Heffernan is being slammed for a piece in which she compared the Trump bites next door to our pandemic getaway in upstate New York, despite their aggressive niceness to Nazi sympathizers and Hezbollah because they backed Donald Trump. The Brooklyn born writer, also a cultural
Starting point is 00:32:25 columnist at Wired, wrote on Friday that her neighbors, who seem as devoted to the ex-president as you can get without being Q fans, just plowed our driveway without being asked and did a great job. How am I going to resist demands for unity in the face of this act of aggressive niceness?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Is this an Onion article? No! It's really not. It's LA Times. Literally a journalist posting her L. Do they think this resonates with people? So her friendly neighbors scooped her driveway, cleaned the snow off. It was pretty deep, too.
Starting point is 00:32:58 The picture was nuts. It was like a huge... There was a lot of snow up against her building. They did a lot of work. And she's like, how am I supposed to not unify with them now? Oh, no. It was like a huge – there was a lot of snow up against their building. They did a lot of work. And she's like, how am I supposed to not unify with them now? Oh, no. The propagandists on Twitter are telling you to hate your neighbor, and it's so hard because they're good people.
Starting point is 00:33:25 What's so wild about it is that in 2016, everyone was blaming Trump's victory on how all of his supporters are so insulated and they would not engage with other people with from other communities and then here you go a neighbor trying to plow someone else's driveway showing like an act of friendship and trying to reach out and all of a sudden can't do it can't you're a hezbollah and a nazi you're trying to do that i mean this is cult-like behavior it's sad i feel sorry for her because, I mean, imagine being this human being when someone reaches out, does something nice to you,
Starting point is 00:33:50 and because they don't believe the same political ideas, you hate them to the point where you think that they're trying to exterminate a whole race of people. I mean, that's just absolutely insane. And this lady I wrote when talking about this
Starting point is 00:34:02 is just a perfect byproduct and victim of this woke algorithm that radicalized her and made her into a person that can't even live life normally. That sadly is stuck in this perpetual loop of hate and fear that she's caught up in because she's also writing a lot of the puff pieces. She's also manipulating a lot of the information, trying to, of course, gain all the followers, monetize her clicks. She's a part of this entire system that is spinning out of control. And this is a perfect, perfect example of going utterly crazy. This is... Yes, but it's not just her.
Starting point is 00:34:35 No. This is just because she's prominent. She writes for the LA Times. We hear this. But I've seen so much stuff like this, how insane these people have gotten, that you can not even... Like, maybe you're not even a trump supporter you'll just be like i don't know i think everyone's kind of crazy trump's got bad but you know he's not the worst guy in the world and they'll still be like oh oh you're a fascist you're far right or you're you're what is it far right adjacent
Starting point is 00:34:59 which what does that even what is that what does that one mean does it mean you're just right wing like what is it i i don't you you know, kind of my feelings on Trump. I wasn't a big fan of his behavior, his personality. But, like, he wasn't evil, man. He's out of office. He left office. He didn't get us into any overt war. He didn't, like, I mean, he did escalate the drone war campaign, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:35:18 But he didn't, like, persecute and murder a bunch of Americans. He did separate people at the border. That was, like, the most terrifying imprisonment of people he did on american soil that i'm aware of but comparing him to hitler's at it's over the edge i mean it's in yeah but well but misanthropy i don't know how to describe it let me read this quote she said the favors hezbollah does for people in the cities of tyre and sedan probably don't involve snow plows but But like other mafias, Hezbollah tends to own tends to its own. The Shiite sick, elderly and hungry, she wrote. They offer protection and hospitality and win loyalty that way. And they also demand devotion to their brutal us versus them anti-Sunni cause. Some of us are family. The favors say the rest are
Starting point is 00:36:03 infidels. Is she trying to claim that the people who plowed her driveway did it so that they would force her to like them as like a loyalty test well they really plowed my driveway so that i would have no choice but to support trump they probably just like doing they're nuts these people are crazy well i mean like if you think of what most people's motivations are if it's not for money if it's not to like you know attract someone in particular most of the time people do friendly things to get some well if it's not to obviously like for their own like internal benefit like they like doing nice things for other people because it you know they
Starting point is 00:36:43 feel good after they do it yeah like you're doing something yeah a lot of people do nice things for other people because they feel good after they do it. Yeah, like you're doing something. Yeah, a lot of people do nice things for other people to get other people to like them. It's just kind of basic human nature. It's not confusing. Well, not to us. So I would say that if you were doing something like plowing someone's driveway as a favor, you're probably going to expect them to mow your lawn for you, maybe. Well, that's a very transactional way of looking at it.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I think most people would not expect something in return when they do something yeah we had a neighbor that would always shovel our he'd be shoveling his sidewalk and then he just keep shoveling you know shovel our sidewalk he had to shovel he was outside so what causes this because this is very different from say critical race theory or critical theory this is just i don't know what, media-driven cult psychosis? I'd say it's boredom. Boredom? Yeah, I think people just honestly don't have enough to write about, so they find the things that bother them in their life, and boom, you get a column like Virginia Heffernan, who has, by the way, made the list, and has blocked me because of being on it.
Starting point is 00:37:44 There you go. Basically, posting how triggered they are by some Trump supporters plowing their driveway. I mean, come on. If you do something nice for me, I'm going to offer you in, bring coffee, hot cocoa, if you want to hang out. I'm game for that.
Starting point is 00:37:59 It's just I don't understand why some people are sort of wired in a way that you got to flesh out everything about that person. We live in a very deeply cynical world. I think boredom does fuel a lot of this, you know, cult-like behavior. The writers are desperate for something to write about to make money at their jobs. And so they'll try and find something. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:19 There was one funny article we read a while back about like, you know, Ivanka Trump's address signifying alt-right national, like it crammed every keyword possible in a ridiculous article. But I think what happens is you have these, this grifter class of people in media who will say whatever they need to say to pander to their cult. And then the people who are in the cult just have no purpose. So when they see, you know, this person standing atop the tower, holding the tablet saying, go do these things, they're like, that's my, that's my reason for being, that's my existence. Otherwise they don't have anything else. So, you know, I've talked about this, uh, in, in the context of Jordan Peterson, one of the reasons why I think they hated him so much and still do is that he gives purpose to many young people, not necessarily
Starting point is 00:39:02 conservatives who they're, they're looking for something in their lives. They have no purpose. And he said, find the heaviest thing you can you can carry and carry it. He tells people to be responsible for themselves, clean their room. Well, these a lot of these cult like, you know, far leftists need purposelessness in order to be the solution to that problem. So when you have these young people who are like i don't know what i'm alive for what am i doing they say wokeness join the cult be one of us and they go finally purpose well i actually do i mean i i see where you're going with this because um i think one of the aspects that made for some for a lot of young muslim men and some women but mostly young muslim men and part of the funneling, that whole radical Islamic terrorism aspect,
Starting point is 00:39:48 is that once you hit a certain age, you know, young adulthood, you're trying to start figuring out what your purpose is in life, you turn to religion. Some people turn to it a little bit more so. Not everyone. Everyone finds something different, but something that gives your life meaning and purpose. When it came to a lot of these young Muslims who felt sort of disillusioned by what was happening in the world,
Starting point is 00:40:10 well, some of them were either, say, very turned off by sort of the way society or the direction society was headed through culture or through politics, what have you. And a lot of them, and this is actually kind of indicative of a lot of particular terrorist suspects who have either carried out their attack versus were caught in the middle or trying to commit their act. They were not, for all intents and purposes, practicing or good Muslims by the standard of they go out partying, they drink, they do drugs, they have premarital sex. for all intents and purposes, practicing or good Muslims by the standard of like, you know, they go out partying, they drink, they do drugs, they have premarital sex, things like that. And then they go, you know, almost pivot the entire 180 to some radical ideology within, and in this case, Islam, join up with Al-Qaeda, with ISIS, and basically try to give themselves some
Starting point is 00:41:07 sort of meaning by fulfilling what they think is a prophecy set out by Godwin, really. It's just obviously people taking, you know, manipulating these people for violent and political purposes. There are people who want to wield the power, and there are people who are just desperate to have meaning in their lives yeah i don't blame you know i feel bad for a lot of these people the the people who found say jordan peterson and decided just to find their own path figure something out and work hard basically just take advice from someone who tells you to be a chill person and just you know be
Starting point is 00:41:39 responsible those people found a good path probably a lot of them are probably happy now after reading and listening to what he had to say. I'm not saying, you know, Dr. Peterson is perfect by any stretch of the imagination. But when you've got aimless, listless young people playing video games all day, just gaining weight in their basement, and then one day someone says, go for a walk, clean your room, get active, and they do, they're going to start feeling better about themselves. I mean, we live in a society that nurtures immediate gratification. And when you see people who sort of like get rich quick overnight, whether it's through Bitcoin or Robinhood or WallStreetBets or even like going viral on the internet, going on Twitch, going on Twitter, going on TikTok, like these are things that, you know, for a lot of young people who aren't seeing that type of success immediately overnight, they start to think, why not me?
Starting point is 00:42:30 Why is this not happening to me? Is there something wrong with me? There is. They didn't watch Fight Club. We were all told that we're going to be rock stars and astronauts. It's not true. So you might just be a dude in the backyard chopping wood. Be happy with yourself, your life. Find your own meaning. Read a book. But you can be a dude in the backyard chopping wood yeah be happy with yourself
Starting point is 00:42:45 your life find your own meaning read a book but you can be a rock star and an astronaut you can you can i think the issue is you know it's crazy when i see these stories about bands that break up and people are like why would they break up they had it all and it's like dude you really don't understand the amount of work and suffering that goes into trying to maintain such high level positions they assume that you're a rock star everything must be easy it's like, dude, you really don't understand the amount of work and suffering that goes into trying to maintain such high-level positions. They assume that you're a rock star. Everything must be easy. It's like that song. You know that song?
Starting point is 00:43:10 You've got to eat the right food. It's such a sacrifice. No, no, no. You know that song, Money for Nothing? Yeah. Where it's like, you know, we've got to move these microwave ovens. It was basically about these guys who are apparently – I'm probably messing up the story to some capacity. The Dire Straits heard these guys watching their music video complaining about how they get everything
Starting point is 00:43:28 for free and it's like dude it's hard work to maintain all this stuff so bands these high profile bands these these famous individuals many of them look don't get me wrong some of them barely do anything and get money it happens but a lot of them are working so hard they're like i can't do this anymore i can't be around these people this is toxic every day sucks i want to be with my family and they break up and they give it all up they don't want to they'd rather not make the money and just be the dude in the backyard chopping lumber case in point dylan radigan you know dylan radigan right yeah what's he doing he's farming now right uh i believe he was in italy last time he's doing small-time appearances on jimmy door but he was a big-time mBC anchor. And he was also, you know, a friend.
Starting point is 00:44:06 And he started farming. He started building, he started getting into, I think, solar panels and sustainable communities and doing a lot of cool hippie stuff. But he was in the business. He was a mainline MSNBC anchor. And he was one of the few people that criticized Wall Street, that criticized the big banks. And he dealt with the internal powers that be at msnbc that fire anchors for not towing the line the agenda and he was just disenfranchised by a great person good you know there are many stories of this where stories like this where there's somebody who seems to have it all and then just wants to be the dude in the backyard chopping chopping wood because it feels good to just be out there work with your hands do you really want to give up your your your mind soul and body to
Starting point is 00:44:48 something or do you want to just have the freedom there are a lot of people who who think it must be so great the grass is always greener instead of just working on themselves being happy with their own lives and so what they do is they seek purpose some of them will get trapped in an addiction addiction cycle like a video game. You know, these video games offer up a dopamine reaction when you succeed. You play the game, you earn experience points, boom, new level, new armor, new weapon, you know, whatever game you're playing, and it feels good when you get it. Other people join these cult-like ideologies because they feel like they're doing something, like they finally matter. And they won't give it up because if they
Starting point is 00:45:22 finally realize their ideology is psychotic, like screaming at your neighbors for literally no reason, it shatters their worldview. They are purposelessness. They have become purposeless. You brought up a point that I'm literally writing about in my journal right now. When you look at people who have been radicalized, because let's be honest here, she's radicalized to a very big extent where she can't even take a nice gesture. When you look at people who are radicalized, they're usually hopeless, as you said, purposeless. They're uneducated, and they don't have a family. And when you see those bigger kind of trends unfolding on a larger scale and a lot more people being radicalized, this truly is showing something that we should be concerned about because when you see this trend
Starting point is 00:46:06 keep going the way it is it's only going to lead to more troubles politically socially violence and uh yeah exactly right now this lady's like what do i do they're being nice well she's writing that essentially her neighbors are being nice to her because it's all about generating the loyalty hey i did this for you come join us like she's equating them with hezbollah what happens when she's when she she goes even further what happens when you have somebody who just truly believes oh no they're walking to my house with shovels they're here to hurt me and they bought a weapon or something crazy like that you know what i mean yeah what happens when they truly believe there's no good intent sometimes they'll try and set them up and like blackmail them and stuff. That happens.
Starting point is 00:46:45 People go that far. I know. That's kind of crazy. I think we're, you know, we saw there was an article Chris Hayes wrote for, I think it was the Atlantic, where he said rural areas are getting reliably more red and suburban areas and urban areas are getting reliably more blue for whatever reason. You can even zoom in and see it. The closer you get to a city, the bluer things get. And why is that? Even in red states, when you find urban centers, they're blue. Even in red states, it's really weird. And so what's happening is that one of the things that may be happening is
Starting point is 00:47:16 that people are leaving cities, conservatives or people who are more likely to be right-leaning or moderate or conservative will go find like-minded people where they can be comfortable, and the Democrat liberal leftists are doing similar things. This is going to create a space, a situation in this country where there's no cross-communication anymore, and it's just like you'll see someone and be like, they're evil. There's also been a huge demographic shift over the last decade just because, as I said before, all politics are local or all politics is local. And when you find that your local politicians are putting implementing policies that, say, go against your values, oftentimes they're not. Yeah, you're going to leave. I mean, just look at how many people have left California for Texas or for Arizona and are slowly turning those states blue.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Not always. I mean, Arizona turned blue, but Texas much closer in this past election than in years past. And when you start and this is the this is sort of the folly when it comes to for say for some Republicans in these states is that you become a victim of your own success. All of a sudden, they're now electing people that are going to implement policies that are antithetical to yours. And they bring, you know, there was that comic
Starting point is 00:48:31 where Joe Rogan is walking from California to Texas, you know, smiling and he's carrying a bag on wheels, you know, a roller bag. And it says liberal policies. And there was like a cowboy guy saying like, hey, why don't you leave that where you got it? And that's the idea. You know, someone like Joe Rog guy saying like, hey, why don't you leave that where you got it? And that's the idea. Someone like Joe Rogan may be a pretty mild, reasonable guy.
Starting point is 00:48:49 He's fairly libertarian, but he is fairly left on a lot of issues. And so he might – he'll end up coming and then what happens is with all of his good intentions, he'll vote for someone who seems moderate, libertarian, which will be further left than the traditional Republican who runs in the area. And then it's just – it's a slow where it the path to hell is paved with good intentions didn't someone compare him to rush limbaugh today yes yeah washington washington post said that joe rogan is the next rush limbaugh what are you kidding me do you want to talk about it i can see it yeah i mean both bald sometimes check us out okay so we we do have the story from the washington post it says rush limbaugh is ailing and so is conservative talk radio industry it's from paul farhi ah this guy this uh we we know paul and uh in in in this
Starting point is 00:49:38 he actually brings up this one point about uh basically the article is saying that talk radio is on the decline, and that means conservatives are in trouble. But he says one very important thing. The shift makes someone like comedian Joe Rogan, a libertarian with a hugely popular podcast, quote, the next Rush Limbaugh, says Paul Matsko, the author of The Radio Right, how a band of broadcasters took on the federal government and built the modern conservative movement. Well, OK, so Farhi isn't himself saying that Joe Rogan is the next Rush Limbaugh, but that is a heck of a statement to be made. I would I mean, like in terms of impact, maybe. I mean, Rush Limbaugh has been a force on the right. But Joe Rogan is not a force on the right.
Starting point is 00:50:25 No, Joe Rogan is not a force on the right, but he is a force. True. But, you know, I guess in the idea of influence in talk shows, but Larry King had an influence in talk shows. Yeah, it's a wild stretch. I mean, he could have said Howard Stern. He could have said Larry King. He could have said other prominent people. People listen to Rogan like a spiritual guide, kind of like how Rush Limbaugh was.
Starting point is 00:50:44 The problem is Rogan doesn't puppeteer the talking points. He doesn't go along with the agenda. He actually questions things and tries to rationalize them instead of just pushing up propaganda. And that's why he's such a battering ram. Yeah, exactly. That's why it's so dangerous is because you get someone who inspires you to question the narrative and question things as they are. Questioning authority? Who wants that? Who in authority wants that rush limbaugh is a conservative with conservative opinions
Starting point is 00:51:10 and when he tells stories and he talks he's talking it's not for the most part but you but you did explain to me as off the show that there's no such thing as the left and right anymore it is oh yeah it is the it is the cult it's the cult and then and then the not cult so right now we're looking at the example of joe rogan's part of the not cult but he has his own cult like following if you want to make that that uh comparison and then but he's challenging everything within that woke cult for the most part right so yeah so i guess in that in that case in that in that stance you're probably right isn't it the weirdest thing that left and right has nothing to do with i don't even i don't even you know look we were talking earlier you you know i said there's no real left and right anymore you agree
Starting point is 00:51:53 you said it's a horseshoe and i said it's a jackson pollock painting it's just yeah i don't know who's what who's where so i can come out and be like all of my you know policy positions have been traditional liberal but i think the democrats are manipulative and they're lying to people and the media is lying too and that's a right-wing position apparently so i guess that i think we'll be all like by 2069 nice we'll be all uh a like a homogenized like you know we talk about the mixing bowl that's when we'll all be homogenized everybody literally it has a position takes every single position on everything like hillary clinton what do you mean like she takes a position on everything yeah i mean there there are a lot of things where i'm like i don't know you know keystone pipeline is a good example the left says it's causing oil spills and it's
Starting point is 00:52:40 like okay and the right says freight delivery causes more oil spills. So Keystone actually is an improvement there. We mentioned this on the show the other day. There's this meme about the U.S. government spent millions of dollars developing a pen that can be used in zero gravity so they can write while they're in outer space. The Russians use the pencil and then everyone laughs. And these leftists share the meme saying it was such a simple solution and America wastes all this money. And then the new meme now is someone writing a correction saying using a pencil can get particulate matter from the pencil into the air, which can be dangerous for the filtration system and what you are breathing. And so because they need a purified environment, it is dangerous to use a pencil. So the US created a pressurized pen to use in outer space for safety purposes.
Starting point is 00:53:24 It makes a ton of sense. When you don't understand and you think you're smarter, the simple solution sounds like it's right. But in reality, it wasn't. It makes me keep thinking about this, where when a new person goes from California to Texas, they want to impose what they think is right. And often what you think is right isn't. So that's when you want to push your beliefs, whatever they are. You got to look at history and look at the patterns and think of yourself as part of a pattern. I just think of myself as a dumbass.
Starting point is 00:53:50 You're not a dumbass, Luke. Because, again, you have to understand there's a lot of stuff we don't know about. And a lot of people think that they know everything. We don't. We can learn about it. Let's talk about the subtle erosion when it comes to politics. With Joe Rogan being the example of like the new right. If we're talking about the left being the cult and the right being the not cult, then, yeah, I guess, as strange as it might sound, Joe Rogan may very well be the next Rush Limbaugh.
Starting point is 00:54:16 The only difference is Joe is talking to people. He's not, for the most part, getting up there and for hours talking about how he feels about what's going on. So there is a difference. But in terms of policy changes that's going to affect this country, you know, so we're out here in the middle of nowhere. I've gone to a few gun shops, and I was talking to this one guy, and he was saying, oh, we got all these liberals moving in now, you know, because since COVID and the riots, and now they're coming to buy guns. And I'm like, and I laughed, and I'm like, I'm one of them. And then he gave me this look. He was just like, oh, and I'm like, here's my, you know, former ID from this, you know, very blue place. And I was like, no, don't look at me, man. I'm not voting. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:54:56 because I don't know. I lived in this place and it got bad. And now I'm coming to a new place. I'll defer to you guys. And then he was like, no, just vote for, you know, the people we tell you to vote for. And I was like, I'll just leave it to you. I'm not going to get involved. But here's what happens. Joe's a good dude. He's got a lot of good ideas
Starting point is 00:55:13 and he's fairly rational, right? But he'll come in and, and I mean this with the utmost respect, I don't think his intention is going to be, I'm going to turn this place deep blue and make it as bad as California because he fully understands why California is bad. So he's probably soured on a lot of the policies of California that are deep blue. However, there are probably some things where he's like,
Starting point is 00:55:33 look, I like that Texas does a lot of these things, but there are some things I think should change. That's the slow erosion. There's issues pertaining to family. There's issues pertaining to marijuana, for instance, that can lead to bigger changes down the road and as an individual person you might not realize the correlation between one policy and the next so you might think it's no big deal that i'm saying we should allow or not allow this one particular thing not realizing it is just one domino being knocked over which eventually ripples down the line so let's say you you know want think marijuana should be legalized. You vote for it.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Now all of a sudden you get a bunch of dispensaries popping up and a bunch of industries from California and Colorado, blue areas, move in and set up massive businesses and relocate their employees, sending in more deep blue voters. There's things like that. It's not so cut and dry. Yeah, I mean, you just got to get Republicans to start smoking weed and you got no problem.
Starting point is 00:56:24 They'll become libertarians overnight. Psilocybin. Yeah. I'm into it. You know, you just got to like slowly push that on them. Just be like, it's okay. I laugh and joke, but like if everyone took a dose of psilocybin, I think this world would be like drastically altered for the better.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I don't know about for the better, man. Or they could freak out and have a total... That will probably happen. Again, when you're talking about psilocybin, your own personal decision. Some people have really great, amazing, eye-opening experiences like Bill Hicks. Some people freak the hell out and have horrible
Starting point is 00:56:57 experiences because their self-control is trying to limit their kind of expansion and they're fighting each other and that fighting creates a lot of conflict. They're already insane. They're already out of control and crazy. That's oversimplifying war. That's oversimplifying war. We don't have
Starting point is 00:57:16 war because someone's just crazy. There are reasons behind why they declare war and typically it's over resources. True. You could have, like the Berserkers, the history was they would take crazy psychoactives and then go into battle psychotic. So you can have a society that's on psychoactives and violence. So you're right about that.
Starting point is 00:57:31 But the point I'm saying is you said there would be world peace if people did psilocybin. Well, communication is what really brings it. I'll tell you. Learn communication skills. You could take a world leader and have them take shrooms and they're still going to say, but my country needs oil. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Maybe not, though. I don't know, man. You see outside the box on that stuff. So you think that a country that's heavily sanctioned, like Iran, for instance, and their people are starving and their currency is hyperinflating, that the Ayatollah takes shrooms and also is going to be like, let my people die. He'd probably be like, well, oil is feeding my people, so I can't stop right now because they'll die. But as opposed to maybe the butt wasn't there before i think i think you know it's like saying a father would sacrifice his kids if he took shrooms i just don't see it sacrifice them why let them die like a leader of
Starting point is 00:58:15 their people in their country are not going to abandon them simply because they had a trip you know what i mean but those are two kind of extremes and you really kind of have to experience it to understand what kind of happens to you there's a lot of possibilities in this kind of extremes and you really kind of have to experience it to understand what kind of happens to you there's a lot of possibilities in this kind of larger spectrum uh but there have been a lot of scientific studies especially with microdosing showing that it does actually help your mental cognitive functions increase and help cure a lot of ptsd and a lot of other internalized kind of depression linked issues or that that couldn't be solved with other issues, but mushrooms specifically did in particular studies. So, but the issue I see is, if you've got a nation, and they're being besieged by another
Starting point is 00:58:53 nation repeatedly, and their people are being killed, doing shrooms won't change that fact that they're being threatened and attacked, and they will respond in kind. It won't change the fact, right, that there is a siege. They won't lift the siege, but it will change the way you view and your tactics. So let me ask you, if I was throwing rocks at your face,
Starting point is 00:59:13 would you stop me? If you took shrooms and then the next day I threw rocks at your face, would you stop me? Mm-hmm. So how come there's no peace? There's external factors in war that's not related to what you do with your shrooms.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Someone taking psychedelics is not going to change war. Well, I would stop you in different ways, depending on the situation. You'd build a wall. I might grab it and stand up. I might throw it back at you. You'd get it back to cash it, or you'd build a wall with the rocks that you're throwing. I have a simple statement that I saw today in a meme, so it's now my philosophy that I live by. And it says, do no harm, take no ish. And I think, you know, yin and yang, I think if people have reasonable approaches like that, I think they could go about
Starting point is 00:59:55 things, especially if they have their minds opened up to new perspectives, it could go along in a way that could be a lot more productive and conducive than doing it just the old-fashioned way. And when you look at psychedelic mushrooms, they usually help people realize those other possibilities. But again, not a medical doctor, not recommending it to you. I know a lot of people that had really bad trips and had psychosis and dealt with some really negative impacts. So if you are going to do something, do your own homework, do your own research, talk to some professionals, especially on this topic, because it is a very important one that you need to take seriously and not just decide from a YouTuber. And I'm going to take a bunch of mushrooms now.
Starting point is 01:00:30 So let's follow up on the initial conversation. You know, I see a lot of people moving to Texas, and I'm just like, why? You know, I've had people say to me, like, you should move to Texas. And I was like, no, I'm not going to move to Texas. Yeah, everybody's moving to Austin. Didn't Elon Musk go there? Yep. He's right outside Austin. Elon and Joe and who else went there chapelle down there is he just
Starting point is 01:00:49 too uh no chapelle's in ohio yeah but alex jones california to nashville nashville california he left california but a lot of people are going to texas a lot of smaller youtubers but still like prominent personalities are in texas warm that's nice but will texas is it do you guys really think this will make Texas turn blue? Do you think, Siraj? Oh, I don't know if it will. I think... I've always thought it would turn blue within the next 10 years, not this election.
Starting point is 01:01:13 But look, just by pure voting numbers, if you look at how Hillary Clinton lost to Donald Trump, I think she lost by like 800,000 votes. Beto O'Rourke in the 2018 midterm lost to Ted Cruz by like 200,000 votes. And then I think around in this 2020 election, I think it was somewhere around a ballpark of 100,000 to 150,000. But it wasn't the shift that I thought it was going to be, that it was going to be even much closer than that. But it's, you know, anything is possible. There's probably – Texas is probably going to do something that's going to alienate all the libs and they're going to leave like they did in Georgia. It's a huge state. Think about this, though.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I mean, the Republican Party today is very different from where it was four years ago and four years before that. It's being pulled to the left. So for all we know, the Democrats of this year will be republicans in 2022 and then texas will stay red and everyone'll be like oh look it's red but it's actually pretty far left yeah i mean the thing is about yeah and that's the thing about how progressives view the democratic party in general and that they are very much the party, they're very much like the Republican Party of like the George W. Bush years. Yeah, to me, it's also really going to depend on the immigration, especially the immigration that Joe Biden is letting in. And that's going to have a huge, tremendous effect that, of course, will support a lot of Democrats. And also what's
Starting point is 01:02:39 happening on the campuses. I mean, we have to understand there's a new kind of youth coming out directly from universities and they're inspired they're uh individuals that are taught a certain way of thinking that is becoming prevalent that is supported by the corporations that is supported by hollywood that is supported by silicon valley that is kind of eroding any form of all the old kind of fashion way of living i just realized why it's so important to stand up and speak your mind to be honest it's not to change your minds it's the kids young 14 and 13 that the impressionable people that are forming their belief of what the world is it's affecting them like well that's why it's important to build culture that's why it's important to do fun
Starting point is 01:03:21 things and inspire young people and one of the problems i guess with like talk radio is it's for people who are already in the know it's not but then your youtube shows where 13 year olds log on that's why it's awesome no it's like they're watching it's funny but for the most part don't watch political commentary they don't this show's different you know they're on tiktok yeah they're on tiktok they're on tiktok now surprisingly i have a bunch of videos on tiktok i didn't put there and you know i apparently get like millions of views epic yeah look i am a nobody i mean i i but i have young people reach out to me all the time which is crazy thinking that i'm like some sort of like influence in their life and that means a lot because like they say you are you are
Starting point is 01:03:58 yeah no it's and then i mean you start to think about like what kind of impact you actually are having on certain people. And it's tremendous. The Chinese kind of implications here when it comes to TikTok and also our campuses and university is also something that I think is really prevalent that we should be talking about. Because according to Campus Reform, they just released an article, according to their source, who allegedly works in ICE. It was that Joe Biden, our president, just recently quietly ended a Trump policy where universities had to publicly release their ties to the Chinese government and to specifically the Chinese Confucius institutions. And now, under this alleged new directive, according to Campus Reform,
Starting point is 01:04:41 they no longer have to do that. It's opening the door for Chinese propaganda. Yes. And when you look at the influence that the Chinese government has been expanding all over the world, and particularly in our institutions, it really makes you wonder, especially when you see the result of a quote, university education on the young children that are coming out and their behavior in the world, which is, I would say, somewhat fairly, you know, not to be too hyperbolic, but essentially destructive to our way of life. Well, I want to expand on this, but I want to start with this next story we have.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Check this out. From CBS8, researchers say voters are leaving the Republican Party. Recent studies show the Republican Party is losing voters after the riots on Capitol Hill last month. They say voting experts at the University of Florida say thousands of voters are no longer registered with the GOP. They say far more Republicans than Democrats are changing their registration. And it's happening here in San Diego County, too. The insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on January 6th is something most people thought they'd never witness. Now, political
Starting point is 01:05:40 research says the fallout from that day shows thousands of registered voters fleeing the Republican Party. Quote, these Republicans are rejecting Trumpism, a brand that they see continue to lead the party even after his defeat. And California Secretary of State's office shows over 33,000 voters have left the GOP since the right at the Capitol. In San Diego County, more than 4,700 Republicans have defected. Now, I want to ask a question. How do they know these people are leaving because of the riots? That's what I was just about to say. Maybe they're leaving because Trump's out and they don't care about the Republican Party. I think it's more the fact that Republicans have been—the establishment has taken over the Republican Party and they did not do everything they possibly could to keep Trump in office.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Well, I think it's the other way around. I think Trump infected the establishment. He forced his way in. And then as soon as they had the opportunity to get rid of him, they did. Right. No, they definitely did. I'm totally with you on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:36 But I'm saying that one of the reasons, and I've talked to a number of Trump supporters who are on the FGOP bandwagon, they believe that the Republican Party didn't do enough to keep Trump in office, believing, obviously, that the election was stolen, and that when it comes to how the GOP is now, they sort of embraced it. They embraced letting Trump be expelled from office and didn't do enough to fight for it. What do Republicans do? What do they fight for?
Starting point is 01:07:11 Is there a specific issue Republicans are like, this is our issue? The one thing that sort of unites them all together, limited government. What does that mean? And when do they vote for it? Hey, that's a great question because I'm thinking of that weekend video from the Super Bowl halftime show.
Starting point is 01:07:28 We're all the limited government Republicans at. One thing we talk about quite a bit is you can name very specific things that progressives and Democrats say they must have. Right. A path to naturalization, public option or universal health care, gun control. You know what they're saying we must have now. And the Republicans are saying, don't do that. Don't do that. But they're not doing anything themselves.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Right. No, they've always been the party. I've mostly been the party of no. Of hold your horses. Yeah. Not even no. Well, think about what the term of being, what does the term conservative really mean? It is someone who is always sort of just played it safe not doing anything
Starting point is 01:08:05 drastic trying to keep a tradition that's largely what conservatives have always been about and they're getting arms manufacturing deals well bribes whatever you want to call them funding and uh oil the oil industry is behind them so they don't want it to change they want to right continue like the gravy train it means a lot everything comes down to money i wonder how this is going to impact the future because before this segment we were talking about propaganda universities affecting our kids trump brought in new voters he brought in a lot of younger voters too i i went to a bunch of trump rallies and i talked to you know to young men who are like 20 and they said political correctness was the issue why they decided to vote republican
Starting point is 01:08:42 not much else trump was actually fighting for specific things, sort of. He represented certain things. He was fighting to end these free trade agreements, to bolster American manufacturing. That was something finally people saw and they agreed with, whereas the Republicans were basically like, just not the Democrat, right? Now we have this wave, you know, young people. Every year, there is a wave of, you know, generation of young people who are now eligible to vote. These people, these young people. Every year, there is a wave of generation of young people who are now eligible to vote. These young people are now entering the ranks of American voters with a crippled GOP that people are leaving and don't care for anymore. So if they are conservative, or at least not far left, where do they go? Do we ultimately see the rise of a new political party or several or
Starting point is 01:09:24 what? Here's the thing. When it comes to people actually entering the voting booth, most people think about what their vote actually means. Like, is it actually going to be counted in a way that it matters? And when they think about the dichotomy, the two-party system, Republican, Democrat, they realize that they can't always just throw away their ballot. I think most people, when they enter the voting booth, think they're going to vote for someone that, if they hate the other party, they're going to vote for the party that's in opposition. That is probably the most simplest explanation I can give, because they may hate that particular party that they're voting for, but they'll do it to try to stave whatever may happen, whatever may change from the other party taking over.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I would ask, please don't vote with hate in the future. Vote for, not against. No, you just vote for the lesser of two evils. I mean, that's what the media tells us to do. That's clearly what we should do. Also, another thing to kind of think about with this news article, a lot of these polls are usually very, very wrong. And two, usually the conservatives are very underrepresented in them.
Starting point is 01:10:32 So the polling industry is an industry that I absolutely do not trust at all. Well, but this is not polling. This is the actual hard numbers from the Secretary of State's office tracking party membership. Well, yeah, but even when it comes to that, we have to understand Republicans and conservatives usually are the types not to be very public about who they support or why they support. And a lot of times they surprise people at the polls because they actually vote, but they don't tell anyone who they voted for. That's why a lot of the exit polls, a lot of the other polls are wrong. And even though they might be transferring parties right now, it still doesn't directly represent. Yeah, it still doesn't. represent yeah it still doesn't i mean i think they're
Starting point is 01:11:08 just disenfranchised disenfranchised not just by trump not just by the republicans but how can you not be disenfranchised with joe biden i mean i if you're not maybe if you're not paying attention and if you're in la la land which a lot of people are but if you're paying attention you are absolutely disenfranchised with joe biden I mean, Biden is remarkably doing things that everybody hates. He rescinds this rule on Chinese propaganda. He rescinded, I'm sorry, suspended the rule on Chinese propaganda. He suspended a rule keeping China out of our electrical grid. And like, why? So that's got conservatives pissed off. But the left is saying he promised $2,000 checks. He promised $15 minimum wage. He's not doing any of those things either. So he's basically building a coalition against him.
Starting point is 01:11:46 He banned the term China virus because he wanted to fight COVID racism. I mean, as he's making sure Americans to get into the United States have to get a COVID test. But if you're a migrant, you don't even get COVID tested when you cross the U.S. border. But American citizens returning back to their country, you have to have a COVID test. What if these people coming in, these migrants, have COVID? Yes. Yeah, that's the point. That's the point that Tucker Carlson was talking about yesterday in his first segment, which is something that I think shows you who Biden is really interested in.
Starting point is 01:12:19 This disenfranchising of conservative voters is worrisome because you've got a bunch of people now feeling like there's no outlet and they're hearing things like what Luke is saying. You mean if I fly in, I got to get a test. But these people can just walk across the border. No problem. And Joe Biden is creating a pathway for these people, but making it harder for Americans. That's going to make people lose it. It really does feel like the joke. You know, this is a joke we've been making.
Starting point is 01:12:42 They keep throwing more at us just to see how far we're willing to take it. I don't know. I'm a little skeptical about that type of story because you might hear it happen at one particular checkpoint, but it might be the exception, not the rule. Because, I mean, think about all these detention centers that are housing a lot of these migrants. I mean, obviously we talked about, talked about the child separation policy in 2018, which is an awful policy. We should pull the story up. It's on the Daily Mail.
Starting point is 01:13:09 They also covered it. Which story? About how migrants are not being tested, but American citizens who are coming back have to have a negative test in order to enter the country. I mean, just think about it. Because a lot of these detention centers
Starting point is 01:13:22 are controlled by HHS. Well, they're not detention centers. They're expansion centers. They're expansion centers. So that's the new kind of lingo that they're using now. What does that even mean? Overflow. They're overflow centers.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Okay. They're overflow centers. And so we have to figure out, are those overflow centers controlled by HHS or by DHS because those two federal agencies basically control the flow of people into the United States. And a lot of the detention facilities that we saw that we thought were controlled by DHS are actually controlled by HHS. That's Health and Human Services? Yes. That's the federal agency that's been trying to do all the COVID operation, warp speed, vaccine. Basically, the federal government's response to all of this has basically been controlled by HHS.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Sorry. Sorry. I didn't mean that. That was a very wonky way. I could keep going. I'm just wondering if you found the article. DHS Department of Health. Well, I found the article talking about Tucker Carlson blasting Biden for releasing thousands
Starting point is 01:14:24 of migrants into the U.S. without giving them COVID tests. As Texas Sheriff says, the policy will create irreparable harm. And that's that's that's I mean, that's the gist of it. That's it. That needs investigation. That is that sounds too crazy to be real. But again, we live in a crazy world. So I need to.
Starting point is 01:14:43 These people who are leaving the republican party probably were barely in the republican party when i was uh when i was in florida there was a trump rally in fort lauderdale and i was just talking some random trump supporters i i talked to not one one republican i i talked to a small handful of people maybe just just shy of a dozen and they all basically said the same thing oh i'm i'm not in any party or anything like that oh i've never voted before anything like that i was just gonna say that trump supporters trump is not a republican he's not a conservative he ran as a republican but even you know the the most conservative people will tell you trump is not a conservative he is
Starting point is 01:15:21 he is a nationalist populist he is in many ways an opportunist and i think i the the greatest analogy i ever heard uh about trump is that he's like a couch whoever sits on him last that's what's left on his brain like that's what he's thinking about so like whoever gets in his ear the last the last person who gets in his ear that's what it's on his mind that's what's on his mind. That's what he's going to be tweeting about. Or, well, he can't tweet anymore, but that's what he would be talking about. He could go on Gab.
Starting point is 01:15:53 R.I.P. in peace. But he won't do it. Mr. President. I think you're right. Maybe not that we need a new political party, but people want to do that. We need it. We need it. What I think is that if we don't start it, literally, me and you, if we don't start it, it won't happen.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I mean, that's the problem. I'm not interested in being involved in a political party. That's the thing. I don't want to be a politician. I don't hate myself. Right, exactly. You have to find someone who particularly loathes themselves in order to start that. That's the best people. You ever see that?
Starting point is 01:16:23 I love this. This is my favorite reference as of late, the Futurama episode about the clone presidents. Was it John Jackson and Jack Johnson? No. I think your three cent
Starting point is 01:16:30 titanium tax goes too far. Well, I think your three cent titanium tax doesn't go too far enough for the same person. Fry is like, they look like the same person. And then Lila's like,
Starting point is 01:16:40 it's because they are. That's what we have. And that's what you need. You need somebody who has no real thoughts or opinions. And you hand them a stack of paper saying, here are the things you have to say. And they go, okay. And they get votes. Could you build a system where that it totally satiates the military industrial complex and everybody involved, but somehow creates a system that will evolve us out of it?
Starting point is 01:17:01 I don't know. Green Party. So like with energy, would it be like an electric no i'm saying the actual green party maybe i don't know they seem to be the only party saying that we don't need the military industrial complex but i guess i i guess i guess the libertarian party might be on the same wavelength but yeah but we've all seen the meme with the scraggly looking fox you know that's true you think you'd have a better chance starting a new party or co-opting like the Green Party? You have to co-opt.
Starting point is 01:17:28 This is why Trump didn't – Trump was actually part of the Reform Party when in 2000 he left it because they were too extreme. he knew he figured out a way to speak towards a lot of different people from all different parts of the then we're talking about political spectrum because obviously the political spectrum doesn't exist anymore but people all across the spectrum and find something that resonates with them and it is literally as simple as these people are out to get you I'm in the way that's why they hate me oh and that was sort of he was a knock against the entire establishment at both Democrat and Republican because he was just not part of it. He was the outsider. He was the billionaire outsider who came in like a wrecking ball, Miley Cyrus style, basically saying, I am going to change the entire system. Well, he wasn't laughed out of the primary, but people did not take his candidacy seriously from the get-go because of whatever rhetoric he said, starting from his very first political rally. He couldn't hire the right advisors, and he ended up getting people like Carter Page and George Papadopoulos who didn't really know what they were doing, and then they get wrapped up in this whole Russia probe.
Starting point is 01:19:02 But then he couldn't fill his actual cabinet with people who actually believed in him. They were just opportunists trying to basically get a job. Or a pardon for someone they knew. Or a pardon for someone they knew. But there were just as many opportunists that surrounded President Trump than President Trump himself. It's just – I mean every – so everybody was working against him i was reading something earlier that when he was trying to draft his executive orders initially the olc was just not like basically not office of legal counsel yeah yeah they were supposed to be
Starting point is 01:19:35 saying okay here's how you can make your executive order work and they would purposefully leave holes so that it could be destroyed in the courts i don't know if that's true i was something i was reading no there's there is there was a direct and there was incentive to make sure that Trump failed within the Republican Party because they they realized that he took control of he was he was the Republican Party when he was president. Everything was about him. He was the center of the universe and And establishment Republicans were on the outside. And they realized that if – actually, Democrats took a lesson from Republicans in 2016.
Starting point is 01:20:15 When Bernie was winning all those states in the early primaries, he won – what did he win? Iowa still hasn't been decided. He won New Hampshire. And then he won Nevada. Was there a third state in there before? I don't know. But anyways, he had enough delegates as if he won Iowa. And then South Carolina came up.
Starting point is 01:20:35 What happened right before Super Tuesday? So Joe Biden predictably won South Carolina. But then the establishment decided they were not going to let an insurgency from Bernie Sanders happen. So they all coalesced behind Joe Biden. You had Amy Klobuchar, Michael Bloomberg, Pete Buttigieg, all dropping out in the span of like two days and endorsing Joe Biden. What happened on Tuesday, Super Tuesday? He won almost, I think, all but two states. And that was it. Well, it's because the other candidates were splitting the vote.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Yeah, exactly. But they realized that this is what happened. This was the folly of the Republican Party. The Republican establishment, I should say, in 2016 is that they thought, you know, you had the Marco Rubio. You had the Ted Cruz. You had John Kasich. You had Scott Walker. All of them thought they could take on Trump. and he just picked them off one by one.
Starting point is 01:21:29 If they all coalesce behind a particular establishment candidate, they probably would not have nominated Donald Trump. Plus, Trump was fun. It was very fun. Watching him make fun of Jeb and turn people into memes. Yeah, calling Rand Paul ugly. Well, even Elizabeth Warren wasn't with Bernie. She was still sticking around, and everyone was like,
Starting point is 01:21:50 hey, Elizabeth, you're kind of hurting Bernie here with all of this. That was the plan, man. And it's amazing how people believe Elizabeth Warren was progressive. What did I say? She's Hillary Clinton wearing a Bernie Sanders mask? She's the only one that actually even said something
Starting point is 01:22:04 about social media and the big tech oligarchs. Right. And then she stopped. She came out in defense of Wall Street during the GameStop rebellion. When they were challenging the hedge fund, she's like, who are these people? What are they doing? Oh, yeah. Great progressive Elizabeth Warren, defender of Wall Street.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Yeah. Now, Elizabeth Warren, she has gotten quite a bit of flack from the Bernie crowd for her role in sort of undermining Bernie's candidacy. But if you also remember, even from the beginning primaries, they were screwing Bernie over. There was no declared winner during the first primary in Iowa. And who got it? Buttigieg? But again, it was so close. And because it was close, they did very similar things. They postponed it until the next primary, until more news came in.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Because again, the person who wins the first primaries always gets the big bump, always gets the big push. And it was very close for Bernie getting it. And then they kind of scooched the poops. Now, again, not a fan of Bernie. I really don't like his policies. I think he really, really hurt a lot of his supporters, especially with how Hillary treated him and how he endorsed Hillary, how he played the game. But still, it's important to call out that he still represents sort of a populist idea that does have some merit, that does have some credibility, and it resonates with a lot of people. And that's what connects Trump.
Starting point is 01:23:20 That's what connects Bernie. These larger populist ideas. Of course, he gave up. And I would say Trump gave up as well. You could make both arguments. Both of them gave up on the people, on their larger kind of populist energy that pushed them behind them. Trump fought for years,
Starting point is 01:23:34 and it was only at the very end when he realized it was over. Yeah, but it was all egotistical, it was all self-absorbed, and when you're coming from that perspective, it's very easy to manipulate someone when they care so much about how they look. I'll tell you what it was, because the way I describe it all the time, it's very easily to manipulate someone when they care so much about how they look. I'll tell you what it was because the way I describe it all the time. It was the populists leading Bernie Sanders, a politician, to the gates of the ivory tower. And Bernie banging on the door and saying, let me in.
Starting point is 01:23:53 And then Donald Trump was a bull just like stomping about. And then when Bernie Sanders kept banging on the door, they just dumped buckets on his head. And then they were like, Bernie, we'll let you in if you stop banging on the door. And he was like, all right, let me in and i'll stop fighting you and then the ball just smashed through the doors and running around smashing everything up so when i saw trump go in i was like well look the worst case scenario for the left is that trump fumbles around for another four years but it cripples the establishment and opens the door for a real insurgent leftist candidate but they couldn't do it that i i was like as soon as you let in Joe Biden, they will fortify their defenses and you will never, never break their system ever again.
Starting point is 01:24:31 They did it literally in D.C. They're fortifying the Capitol with military. Yeah, they're still there. The National Guard isn't supposed to leave until like end of March. Well, until the end of the impeachment trials that are happening right now. I remember listening to NPR as I was driving today. They were treating it like it was their Super Bowl. They loved every moment.
Starting point is 01:24:51 They're calling it shot by shot. This is the same network, by the way, that was calling on CIA officials to explain to them how counterinsurgency should work against domestic wrong thinkers, a.k.a. other Trump supporters. And they were arguing that, you know, the CIA guy was like, we need to take down Trump. And you see NPR with their coverage today hinting at that, trying to push for that, trying to spin as much information as they could just to push that larger perspective, which is kind of crazy. We haven't really talked about impeachment in this show. Because I'm not entirely. Yeah, I know nobody really interested i mean like i'm sure you've talked about it tirelessly before but obviously this is just an attempt to make sure that he never becomes a threat again but it's not even it's not it so the argument trump's legal team is making is that impeachment is to remove and prevent from
Starting point is 01:25:39 holding office again both not one it doesn't say and or and so that's their legal argument even if they do convict him he can still run again and nothing will stop him it doesn't say and or and so that's their legal argument even if they do convict him he can still run again and nothing will stop him it won't are you sure so there's there's the argument that if he's convicted he uh he can't run again but the trump's legal team is making the argument that it has to remove him and as a private citizen they have no authority to say he can't run again so you know you can't get to b without a yeah so that's their argument so here's what i predict will happen doesn't it say somewhere in criminal statute that a anyone who destroys public record can't hold office there was like a big thing about
Starting point is 01:26:16 that are you talking about like the white house logs or something like that there uh if there there's like some law pertaining to destruction of public documents. Oh, you're talking about Twitter. No, no, no. You mean like if the Secretary of State were to destroy their emails or something? Yes, exactly. Like if the Secretary of State deleted 30,000 public... Or someone else destroyed the Secretary of State's...
Starting point is 01:26:37 Technically, the Secretary of State has never been found to have done it, I guess is the point. When the email thing was happening, a lot of people were saying hillary clinton she called she told this company to wipe these servers destroying public emails emails that should have been released to the public at it you know from due to her role in the secretary of state and thus she would be disqualified from holding office nobody cared that it says it doesn't work like this you it doesn't work that way you know you could have somebody literally break the law and and come on how many politicians actually go to jail for the it says it doesn't work like this it doesn't work that way you know you could have somebody literally break the law and and come on how many politicians actually go to jail for the crimes they commit how many times have we heard stories about insider trading or other corrupt activities
Starting point is 01:27:13 and it's like oh well what about the senator who was accused of flying to of to another country to be with underage hookers and the legal argument was well it wouldn't wasn't illegal in that country and the u.s has no jurisdiction anyway now i'm not saying it was definitively wasn't on the platform yeah but it's like this guy got re-elected people in this country don't who are you talking about who went who that who had hooker hookers overseas john f kennedy there no there is a sitting u.s senator who was accused of being with underage women of the night in another country. Do you remember which country it was? I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:27:49 I want to say Columbia. Was it Bahamas or something? But it's legal there, so they didn't make a big deal. Well, that was one of the legal arguments, apparently, that this never happened. But even if it did, it's not illegal there, and you have no jurisdiction to confront him over it. It was Bob Menendez of New Jersey. Oh, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was never – I want to make it clear. It was it was bob menendez of new jersey oh that's right yeah it
Starting point is 01:28:05 was it was it was never i want to make it clear it was never definitively proven they were accusations but the idea like nobody cares you could literally there are so many people who have look there are some people who have been you know charged with crimes and they resigned dominican republic dominican republic there you go so my understanding is it was never proven it was just yeah no accusations or whatever yeah but the story is weird like these women said like it happened and then all of a sudden they like recanted their story in a very strange circumstance or something like that i've got mixed feelings on the law and executing the law like i'm kind of i'm kind of chaotic like if if bad i don't want to support bad laws so i'm reticent to like get
Starting point is 01:28:43 the law get the police involved get the police involved, get the law. I feel like we can work it out as humans without invoking the law. Think about the civil rights movement. That was a movement built around trying to change bad laws. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's a noble—I think the works of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the Freedom Riders, like they were able to actually enact change through peaceful protests. Of course, there were some obviously who probably didn't think that was the mode to go down. But I mean, the thing is, you're always going to have laws that are not good.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Exactly. Which makes me reticent to use the law to prosecute all these people like tim's saying no one really cares do people commit commit crimes but because they're in positions of power they're not executed not executed but the laws the laws the punishment is not executed funny funny metaphor and that's and that's the the problem with like what late stage capitalism and the and the come on laws are for poor people. Yeah, exactly. And I kind of understand, I don't want to use law to destroy someone. It just makes me feel bad. But
Starting point is 01:29:49 it's there for a reason. And the reason our society has survived as long as it has is because we adhere to our laws, our self-agreed upon laws. Right. Kind of. We're at the point now where it's just like a given that rich people can do what they want. You just buy your way out of jail. At least bail. Well, it's not even that. It's like when rich people do get convicted of crimes there's usually a fine
Starting point is 01:30:06 they're like you gotta pay 10 million dollars some horrible thing and they got to pay a billion 100 million dollars and it's like they made 3.6 billion my my favorite ever sketch from dave chapelle was when he switched the roles of like a wall street banker being treated like a drug dealer through the criminal justice system the drug dealer i.e dave chape banker being treated like a drug dealer through the criminal justice system. The drug dealer, i.e. Dave Chappelle, being treated like he was a Wall Street banker or a white-collar criminal. And it was just like, you know, basically, and my favorite bit was the judge sentencing that Wall Street banker to, you know, life in prison. You'll have plenty of time to lift weights and convert to Islam. Dave Chappelle is a genius, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:48 But, you know, look, there's a really interesting idea. Some countries will give people speeding tickets based on their income. It's a percentage and not – Right. Germany does that. That's an interesting concept because if you make a million dollars a year, you're like, I don't want to speed and pay $100,000 fine or, you know, it wouldn't be that high, but it would be like 10 grand or something.
Starting point is 01:31:04 And then if you're poor, it's going to be like three a hundred thousand dollar fine or you know it wouldn't be that high but it'd be like 10 grand or something and then if you're poor it's gonna be like three or four bucks something small because it has to impact you in the u.s let me tell you something fascinating or i'll give you chicago for example i used to live in lakeview right by wrigley field love that area and whenever there would be a cubs game every street would be cars parked wrapping around in every possible space blocking driveways. They did not care. The idea was you can't find parking in Lakeview for a Cubs game, and it's cheaper to pay $100 for a ticket than it is to find a valet or to find a parking garage. The ticket you got from the cops was just the ticket for parking. So it was like they factored in their budget.
Starting point is 01:31:42 They didn't care. They wouldn't tow? Mostly no, because there was too many cars. Yeah, I mean, if it's so jam-packed. That's civil disobedience, man. It was just, that's the system now. It's like when everyone speeds, you can't pull everybody over. They might single somebody out.
Starting point is 01:31:55 But people will come out, and they'll see tickets everywhere, and they'll be like, that's the cost of parking. It's the American spirit. Like if I was going to park in a garage, it'd be 50 bucks. Screw it, I'll pay 75. I told you. Park wherever I want. You know, that's why Chicago's the lawless Screw it. I'll pay 75. I told you. Park wherever I want. You know, that's why Chicago is the lawless place it is because people won't pay for parking.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Chicago's crooked, man. It's bad. Yeah. I've been to a lot of cities in the United States and I've been to a lot of places in the world and Chicago is corrupt. The Windy City because of the politicians' blue hot air. Exactly. It was all corruption and all lies. I wonder why Chicago of all places. You know what it's really funny i once got into an argument with someone about chicago being the windy city and they're arguing with me that it was literally
Starting point is 01:32:31 windy which it is not really pretty okay i mean i don't know it's not in the winter it's the wind tunnels between buildings yeah kind of new york has those too it's just not really that as windy as new york it's it's it Which is negligibly windy relative to most cities. And so they're like, it's the windiest city because it's windy. I'm like, no, it isn't because all the politicians are corrupt. The last three governors went to prison. It's for real. And then they're like, no, it's because I'm like, don't even argue with me, man.
Starting point is 01:32:56 This city is so corrupt. We had one incident where a meter maid gave a cop a parking ticket. So he grabbed her by the throat and slammed her up against the side of a building and screamed in her face there were a bunch of off-duty cops who went to a bar and brutally just mercilessly beat the bartender woman because she was telling them they had too many drinks and they say chivalry is dead right chicago's got problems it's like cold so people are angry um it's not new york so it's not as centralized you know it's kind of the wild west or at least it is it is you got gangs running around and the cops are like ruthless because of the it is you got gangs running around the cops are like ruthless because of the gangs and i i can understand why the cops are so you know uh like just having nothing to do with it but then you can't oppress someone's rights because you're mad the gangs are
Starting point is 01:33:34 overrunning certain parts of the city and you got a bad beat it just it just becomes a dirty city man it's a great time chicago i lived there for like four years. It's fun. I absolutely loved it. It's fun to go to the brown line. I'll put down the blue. You know Chicago still has dry areas, like neighborhoods that can't have alcohol from Prohibition? Really? Yeah, that's crazy. Where?
Starting point is 01:33:54 I don't know exactly, but I remember when I lived near Wicker Park, there's one area not too far from there where there's no bars at all. Oh my God. That was nothing like my Chicago experience. No, Wicker Park has a ton of bars. but like maybe like a mile west there was this area it's like i don't know the name of it was but there were no bars and so everybody would go to this one bar just outside of this area snake room what was it called snake pit did you ever go to snake pit no there's there's more than one there's too many bars yeah snake that was awesome but i used to
Starting point is 01:34:21 go to this pizza place called big tony's and we would get giardiniera pizza and that is oh that is the best giardiniera pizza man people Tony's, and we would get giardiniera pizza, and that is, oh, that is the best. Man, Chicago. Giardiniera pizza, man. People are probably listening to this show like, giardiniera? What does that mean? What is it? Giardiniera?
Starting point is 01:34:30 You've told me this before. Just tell everyone. It's not the deep dish, is it? No, no, no. That's tourist pizza, man. Yeah, nobody eats that. That's garbage. No, we get square cut, and giardiniera is, it's celery, carrots, jalapeno, and I think
Starting point is 01:34:42 cauliflower, and it's pickled, And they put it on the pizza. They bake it in. Yeah, they put it on like Italian beef sandwiches. Soaked in vinegar and salt. Oh, yeah, all that good stuff, man. All that good stuff. Boiled in bottles so it doesn't rust. I'll tell you one thing.
Starting point is 01:34:55 Chicago may be dirty, but some of the best food you will ever eat, Chicago. You know, I grew up in Chicago, and I tell you, they're culturally lacking in a lot of ways. You want to be big in music? You can't be in Chicago in a lot of ways. You want to be big in music? You can't be in Chicago. There's no scene. You want to be a skateboarder? There's no scene. You want to be in any kind of sports?
Starting point is 01:35:11 There's no scene. But if you want to make good food, Chicago is the place. Because we have the Taste of Chicago on the 3rd and 4th of July. And Chicago's got food, man, for days. What is the scene in Chicago? Politics? Food. It was a lot of business, it felt like.
Starting point is 01:35:27 There was a good business scene. There's nothing. There's nothing. It's a big city full of nothing. It's like a knockoff New York City. It is. No, I know, but New York actually has stuff. Had.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Had. Had stuff. I used to say Chicago is the suburb city of the major cities, where it's like, when you live in the big city, you're there. It's hip. There's clubs when you live in the big city you're there it's hip there's clubs you see all the celebrities when you got in the suburbs it's like these little smaller clubs and people are like trying to emulate what the cities are like chicago is like that all right there are bands in chicago nobody will ever heard of that are the biggest
Starting point is 01:35:56 bands in the world to chicagoans okay so all right there's a question i guess for all of you then what city has it now well Well, I don't know, man. It, LA probably. I don't know. It's dying. It sounds like,
Starting point is 01:36:09 but what city? LA. I mean, remove COVID from it. Remove COVID. LA, dude. It's hot.
Starting point is 01:36:15 It's hot. Yeah. I mean, before COVID, it was New York for sure. Yeah. So are you saying that like New York had it because, and then COVID wrecked it all?
Starting point is 01:36:23 I think Bloomberg and Giuliani ruined it all. And Cuomo. And Cuomo. Yeah. What about? And de Blasio just put the finisher on there. But I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about outside of the United States.
Starting point is 01:36:34 I'm thinking about places like Puerto Vallarta. I'm thinking about places like Porto. I'm not thinking about anything in the United States. But comparatively, if I had to choose somewhere in the United States, I would have to pick, let's just say somewhere in Florida. Austin, maybe. Texas. Austin is a big kind of leftist city.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Yeah, but because now people are flocking to Austin because of all these other places being bad, you're going to start seeing, you know, it's a big cultural hub now with a lot of people coming down there. Denver has that too. Isn't Crowder close to Austin? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:06 He's in Texas though. Yeah. I know that it's obviously the part of the, what, Cal Exit. Everyone, a lot of them have been floating over to Denver too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how about we take super chats from the crowd? If you haven't already, smash the like button, send in your super chats.
Starting point is 01:37:22 We're gonna start reading your comments. Don't forget to like, subscribe, share, hit the notification button, go to timcast.com become a member to tune into our members only posts which come up just after the show but let's read what what's going on here in this year uh super chat so let's see here i can't read the name of this person because youtube has done this weird thing that is blocked whatever okay let's see we got here curtis maver says tim did you hear about the
Starting point is 01:37:45 water treatment plant that got hacked in florida on friday kind of runs into the story from 4 p.m yeah did you guys hear about this no water treatment plant got hacked they tried poisoning the water supply yeah yeah man who tried creepy stuff i don't know i don't know but some guy got arrested i heard but i haven't read into it yeah crazy where was this again florida wow tweed music says hi tim and crew a huge fan of the work you guys do and i loved what you did in sweden back in the day hold the line through an email if you ever need an insider in scandinavia appreciate it pirate tomski says if france can stand up to this then the uk then the uk too next usa critical race theory woke is definitely hate speech against groups of people identity is
Starting point is 01:38:24 key apparently the far left will eat itself ps luke is awesome you know i'll tell you i'll tell Critical race theory woke is definitely hate speech against groups of people. Identity is key. Apparently, the far left will eat itself. P.S. Luke is awesome. You know, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. I agree. It is.
Starting point is 01:38:36 They say they're all about diversity, equity and inclusion. And that is the easiest way to debunk that is they will not include Trump supporters. Right. It's just plain and simple. Yeah. So who are they inclusive towards right not everybody china that's the definition of cult it's it's not inclusive at all because they literally exclude lots of people it's always been about ethnic religious and racial diversity so long as the mental state and line of thinking is the same yeah so crazy it's wild i keep thinking about
Starting point is 01:39:10 the puritanism i wonder if it's like modern puritanism rather calling it woke i'm just gonna call it puritanic yeah no see if they'll stop doing it yeah no i totally i mean like it is in a in a large in a significant way about purifying people's thoughts i mean that the people have entertained re-education camps here in the united states the truth and reconciliation committees simply because and covid camps and covid camps simply because they want to make sure those people disengage from the wrong think yep purifying mind and body so we got uh gareth green says sriraj means honorable king actually it means light but if you uh if you're it's a it means light in arabic but if you're a friend of mine and you like to rip on me it means lamp lamp
Starting point is 01:40:01 lamp not like a genie lamp like an actual like house appliance well he says sriraj oh no it's s-i-r-a-j no no but he is he's saying does sriraj mean honorable king a different word probably i mean not not in the not not yeah raj means king and sri maybe means maybe sri lanka is that like probably probably Probably. Honorable land. Honorable land. Maybe. That's not bad, right? We just made it up.
Starting point is 01:40:29 There you go. It's true because we said it on the internet. Just call me Lamp. There you go, Lamp. Vexel says, Luke, is there any way you could ask YouTube
Starting point is 01:40:35 to stop shadow banning your channel? Also, do you make your own crystal wraps or do you have a good vendor? I was actually thinking about making my own crystals because I sell
Starting point is 01:40:42 a whole bunch of stuff. I sell like custom probiotics and VPNs, all the wild stuff. But I'm going to get on that. And yes, YouTube, please stop shadow banning me. Please bring me back into the part. No, whatever. It's okay. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:40:56 But I thank you for your consideration. And thanks for thinking about me. I mean, look, you went after Eric Schmidt. So they're laughing right now at the Google HQ. Like, it's never gonna happen! Yeah, yeah. So, I understand.
Starting point is 01:41:07 It's cool. I'll just keep peddling t-shirts. It's fine. It's good. Do you ever grow your own crystals? No, no, but that's something interesting that we might get into. Oh, I'm into it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:41:17 All right. Emperor Gyseric says, America has gotten so proficient at destroying other countries, we don't even have to drop bombs or provide freedom fighters with weapons anymore. Yeah, there you go. France is going down. Gareth Green says, some kinds of feminism say that only men should wash dishes. I would like to protest that religion is not a matter of blind
Starting point is 01:41:36 faith or subjective emotion, by the way. Interesting. DEMPOL says, look up where, during the French Revolution, they put a hooker on the altar and said, we now worship the goddess of reason. Chickens, come home to roost. Did they really do that?
Starting point is 01:41:51 It was a mess. I believe it. Really? I don't know. Freedom Thought says, there's a sale on French rifles. Never fired and only dropped once. Cheers from Missouri. Also, Missouri just passed a bill that bans all federal gun laws
Starting point is 01:42:05 really that's that's crazy yeah did they do that because that means you could have full auto right you could build in st louis no missouri yeah but missouri just passed a bill i wonder if that means in the city of st louis maybe it's like city by city now well they probably got city ordinances interesting but does that mean that the constitution no longer protects well the federal government will probably come in anyway because that's what they did to california with marijuana so we'll see geff daff says got my i am a gorilla shirt saturday i had ordered it tuesday two days before the misprint announcement but no luck got a normal one still love it but when is the tinfoil
Starting point is 01:42:43 one for members only coming we have to find a vendor that we can put up on the site so but we might put up the it's the the tinfoil hat one was meant to just go up for about one week so we'll get it soon i could probably just put it up um i don't know maybe thursday is that the day because then everyone gets paid friday or whatever then you have a week and then we'll put up for just over a week then take it down like the following monday so everyone has a chance to get the special tinfoil head edition. All right, let's see. Brandon R. says, re-French surrender jokes.
Starting point is 01:43:11 I used to agree, but listen to Dan Carlin's World War I podcast miniseries, Blueprint for Armageddon, and see why the French avoid fights. I don't make those jokes anymore. That's a very good podcast series. What is it called? What was it? I want to listen to it. Hardcore history.
Starting point is 01:43:24 But what was the episode called? Blueprint for Armageddon. Blueprint. Yeah, I I want to listen to it. Hardcore history. But what was the episode called? Blueprint for Armageddon. I'm going to listen to that. So I think it's fair to point out, I think France has one of the best war records of any European nation or country in the world
Starting point is 01:43:34 for the most part. And it's just because of World War II we mock them for surrendering. But the French Empire was massive. Look at Napoleon. Napoleon surrendered too.
Starting point is 01:43:44 When you look at the way they fight and protest, I mean, I haven't seen such ferocity, such spirit in fight anywhere, to be honest with you. Dude, look up Bersin Jederex. He fought against Julius Caesar and was one of the greatest unifiers of Francia, of Gaul at the time. And the Romans want to, like, stamp that guy's name out because he was such a great— We laugh at the French, but they're fighters. They are. They are. Like some of the most brutal protests you'll ever see, man. Gareth Green says, if someone tried to plow my driveway
Starting point is 01:44:11 without asking permission, I'd be angry about them whoever they were. People who are nice to me against my will really make me angry. Well, there you go. Hunter Laces says, been a fan for a while. Love these daily live streams. Would like to see some 2a related content or maybe a video of you guys the range thanks for everything your guys do well
Starting point is 01:44:30 uh maybe this saturday when we go to the range maybe we can film it because we filmed a little bit last time i just put up some instagram videos but maybe we'll actually film some stuff there's a guy that wants us to ride in tanks so uh i gotta email them back that would be really fun to do but if you guys have any uh fun uh you know adventurous things uh definitely email us let us know i'm down for weekend adventures yeah i think we should uh we should film at the range for for real eve welcome says tim i survived a cult the behavior of the journalist isn't cult like it's straight up cult friendship outside the cult is forbidden i see it from the left and right and it's frightening i i definitely but i don't know if you guys would agree but it
Starting point is 01:45:09 seems like the rights element of it are much smaller and more diminished than the left right like the left is mainstream media it's massive cultural institutions and the right it's like fringe internet communities you know what i mean that's for sure seems like it anyway all right let's see what we got here the bros durham says i'm still waiting on the dopamine payoff from playing escape from tarkov oh that game's hardcore what is it it's like uh fps but it's like super realistic and you get dropped into this area called tarkov and you're up against other players and bots, and you just fight your way to the exit.
Starting point is 01:45:47 You earn credits. I'm currently working on Demon's Souls, the PlayStation 5 remake. Dude, Adam loves that game. It's a classic, isn't it? Yeah, they remade it. Oh, you should get that for PS5. I think it might be multiplayer. I feel basic. I like Call of Duty.
Starting point is 01:46:03 Call of Duty is great, too. I like Cold War., yeah, it is. I feel basic. I like Call of Duty and April Fools. No, Call of Duty is great, too. I like Cold War. Yeah, we got Cold War. I play Skater XL. Okay, you guys know about that. You sure do. You were dropping off the roof yesterday. Yeah, Skater XL is fun.
Starting point is 01:46:13 It's a really good skate scene, basically. You drop like 40 feet and land and you skate. No, no, no. I jumped off a building onto a handrail. That was hilarious. 360 flip 50-50 off like a third four-story building all right let's see vp says how many reza aslan tweets has siraj flagged a lot probably right reza aslan you know there have been i think the last one i did was
Starting point is 01:46:38 uh rbg when he was saying that they were gonna riot in in the streets if they replaced RBGC or filled RBGC with Amy Coney Barrett. And I was like, that's... I think the specific wording was like that they would burn the ish down. Yes. That's what I... I got them on the list for that. That was the last thing. You know what's funny is like, it's not a...
Starting point is 01:47:01 You're just responding to people like wagging your finger, basically, right? Yeah, well, I mean, I hit them with the list meme, of course. But what I mean is, like, their response should be to, like, okay, okay, and laugh about it. Oh, yeah, no, they don't... But they freak out.
Starting point is 01:47:17 There's some who handle it really well. You know who actually handled it really well? Aaron Ruppert from Vox. Oh, really? He actually handled it really well. What did he say? I think he, know laughed yeah lmao that kind of thing but then he unfollowed me when he was when i put him on the list after he was politicizing congressman-elect luke letlow's death who died oh right that's when i lost him and uh list also and another guy who's on twitter max kennerly he had like a very like ghoulish post about luke let lowe's
Starting point is 01:47:57 death and it's just like come on guys like it's just unnecessary and people just tweet because they can't they don't think beforehand and they end up just tweet because they don't think beforehand. And they end up just... Beforehand. Maybe they just don't think. Well, yeah, they don't think at all. But it's just... It gets to the point where I have to now, not whitewash, but almost sanitize the list. Because once something is no longer unique and becomes a narrative,
Starting point is 01:48:26 you can't just go after one particular person. You have to then go after the idea. Ibiprofenope says, Luke, I got my Orwell shirt today. Love it. Thank you, guys and girl, for the news. Nice. Thanks for wearing it.
Starting point is 01:48:37 No problemo. Jordan D says, When are you all going to do DMT and commune with interdimensional beings? March. Ian's planned this one out. I'm ready. Let's see. DMT and commune with interdimensional beings. March? Ian's planned this one out. Let's see. Brandon Hoover says, former LA resident, now in central PA. I'm happy to have discovered this show
Starting point is 01:48:54 and Jimmy Dore during COVID. It's a thinking person's show and I listen nightly while I tie... While time flies. I see. It says, while I tie flies. I think he's tying flies for fishing. Yeah. Oh, actually, yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:07 That's what he's doing. Fly fishing, huh? Cheers to all of you. Yeah, Jimmy's awesome. Jimmy Dore's great. They hate him because he's legit. He's a real anti-establishment populist leftist. And that means he calls it out when they play dirty games.
Starting point is 01:49:21 He'd be one of those dudes in the 60s that would have been standing up with a megaphone in front of crowds at Washington monument, like screaming about like the war and the war. But now it's like the modern version of that is we have the internet video. Yeah. Uh, I haven't,
Starting point is 01:49:33 I haven't followed Jimmy door closely, but I know how anti-establishment he is. That's just like his reputation proceeds. And yeah, I think, uh, Jimmy's great. I think Kyle Kalinsky is cool dude. Uh, I think he's pretty, he's pretty i think kyle kalinsky's cool dude uh i think
Starting point is 01:49:46 he's pretty rad like crystal ball they're you know i think they all deserve their criticism when they deserve it i think i do as well i just my thing is like i don't care what your political opinions are when it comes to you know health care or economics or policy socialist capitalist communist so long as you don't believe in oppressing other people through violence and coercion and force and you're honest and non-aggression principle yeah that's that's that's the gist of it like i tell the story all the time where i shook the hand of this communist guy wearing a sickle and hammer flag because he denounced antifa straight up when i asked him i was like these guys go around they claim to be either anarchists or communists and they beat people and he's like that's wrong they shouldn't do that And I was like, but they say they're communists.
Starting point is 01:50:26 And he's like, yeah, well, they have no idea what they're talking about. That's not the way it's supposed to be. And I was like, here, here, brother. I don't care if you're a communist, so long as you agree that we talk things out. We don't aggress against each other. If you want communism, by all means, argue all day and night for it. And if you convince people, then my ideas have lost. Well, that's that's.
Starting point is 01:50:42 And that's where that's where things have changed is that people it used to be that you try to persuade others that your ideas are the best ideas. Now it's come to the point where you're not convincing other people. You're coercing them. You're beating the crap out of them. You're, you know, you know, trashing their entire store, burning cities to try to prove your ideas are better than the other side. That's just not how it works. No, this guy, this guy in Berkeley, this commie guy, he was a unicorn.
Starting point is 01:51:11 It was like the one time I've ever met a leftist who was like, you shouldn't be able to use violence against people that defies the idea of what communism is supposed to be. And the funny thing is, he's right. If we're talking about a truly stateless system where everyone's cooperating and working together and no one's above anyone else, you shouldn't be able to go around just beating random people. So the people who do that do not actually believe in what they claim to preach about. They're not talking about some kind of Star Trek future. They're just talking about beating you until they have the power over you. That's not any kind of ideology other than authoritarianism. And you should be able to communicate with all ideologies anyone that's like a communist isn't doesn't necessarily going to always be a communist if
Starting point is 01:51:49 you have a good conversation with someone their political beliefs can change yeah all right we got brokerages uh no oh i'm sorry it says wow brokages over hokages you see if i read the last word i would have understood that he says hey tim i'm from san diego from san diego and the reason i left the republican party is because they do not represent my values. Trump did. Very interesting. Matthew Velasquez says, Gorilla says, fleeing the GOP, I want by silver now. Image JPEG says, I left the GOP because of what they did to Trump.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Not a rejection of Trumpism. Also, BCH to the moon. Book recommendation, the Bitcoin standard. Mark Jensen says, I live in Colorado. When the vote to legalize weed was on the ballot, I voted against it.
Starting point is 01:52:33 I knew that legalizing it would bring a bunch of Californians here and make our state even bluer. Sure did. I mean, that's tough, man, because I think it should be legal. What happened? Were you there when they legalized it?
Starting point is 01:52:43 Yeah, I was. So I actually voted against it. And one of the things that I noticed was that people from California came. And a lot of them, when they weren't able to find these jobs that were actually still pretty rare, they would become homeless. They were just kind of like vagrants. They would hang around. At least that was my impression because I would drive past a bunch of them on my way
Starting point is 01:52:59 to work and everything. Oh, man. We got a pretty strong rebuke of you, Ian. Should I read it? We're going to read it. We're going to read it. We're going to read it online. Yeah, man. We got a pretty strong rebuke of you, Ian. Okay. Should I read it? We're going to read it. We're going to read it. We're reading it online. Yeah, here we go.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Drew Richmond says, Ian needs to play some Super Mario Brothers. Mushrooms encourage violence, not prevent it. I think Mario was already violent, wasn't he? He eats mushrooms,
Starting point is 01:53:19 punches bricks, and then jumps and stomps turtles. It just makes him more resilient. Yeah. He can take hits when he's big. There's a really funny web cartoon of Mario eating a mushroom and jumps and stomps turtles. It just makes him more resilient. Yeah. He can take hits when he's big. Animal cruelty. There's a really funny web cartoon
Starting point is 01:53:27 of Mario eating a mushroom and then tripping out and then jumping on a turtle and splattering it and just punching bricks. He could punch bricks, but once he ate mushrooms, he could smash them.
Starting point is 01:53:37 That's true. He couldn't break them until he ate the shrooms. That's funny. That game's ridiculous, man. The Grizzly says, you guys want to talk about the Russian convoy that sideswiped a U.S. vehicle causing injuries to U.S. soldiers?
Starting point is 01:53:50 It's kind of exploding all over. I didn't hear that. Did you guys hear that? I heard that a couple months ago, but not now. Not recently. Interesting. David Merwin says, you all would be awesome higher leadership in the Libertarian Party
Starting point is 01:54:01 and be the change that inspires you. Yeah, the problem is the Libertarian Party is too libertarian. What if we just started a party? You guys think we could? The Pizza Party. The Pizza Party. The Pool Party. The Pool Party.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Yeah, the Pool Party. It would point big targets on us, which is annoying. Like, if we were really speaking to the world and trying to, you know, changing policy and The Pool Party. The economy. speaking to the world and trying to you know changing policy and the pool party economy everyone would be like trying to hack our shit our stuff um our phones like annoying we don't have a ship our taxes and like looking for every little hole and constantly harassing us that's the annoying part like but if we just build the system that that's better then maybe we don't have to be like targets i don't know man politics is a dirty game i don't
Starting point is 01:54:47 want to be you yeah you almost don't i'm involved as it is it's almost never a case where you're like never a target if you try to start up a new party you're a threat to the system you're you're threatening other people's power they're going to do everything they can to make sure you don't get it. So, I mean, that's why the establishment's focus on Trump was so intense, is because he represented this immense threat to their power. And whether people liked or hated him, he represented something that was much bigger. And he tried to bring people back to this idea that we're a United States of America, we're a sovereign nation, we don't sell out to foreign interests like the Chinese Communist Party or these international trade deals or these international
Starting point is 01:55:37 global PACs. We decide our future. And people just just particularly people who are invested in those particular packs or deals. They don't want it. Vosh had a really funny tweet about Trump earlier. He said, why are we something like I'll paraphrase. Why are we wasting time with this impeachment? Just throw Trump in into a lake. And if he sinks, he's guilty. We figured this out ages ago and it was good.
Starting point is 01:56:04 I laughed, but I responded. If Trump floats floats that means he weighs the same as a duck if he weighs the same as a duck it means he's made of wood and if he's made of wood he's a witch you guys get the reference yeah that's a good one those guys are great yeah that was awesome stuff actually one of the my i think it was eric idol blocked me because i put him on the list not even joking about that i love the i think it's john calise where he's like if you want to be a right-wing extremist you just got to choose if you want to be an extremist just choose which groups you hate and you'll figure out if you're left or right and the funny thing is when he goes to the list of who the right hates he ends with and of course moderates and if you want to be on the left and he names all the people the left hates and he goes and of course as well
Starting point is 01:56:47 moderates like they just hate everybody all right we got this uh this massive super chat from lanius shrike who says people who have never been in a fist fight before are aggressively shutting down open discourse and any chance for negotiation why because they don't understand what leads up to a fight how to avoid a fight or how to fight a fight, or how to fight a fight. They have zero life experience. They are a sad blend of pompous hubris, naivety, and outright insanity. That's a good take. I absolutely agree.
Starting point is 01:57:14 Uh-huh. Good point. The people who have been in fights are like, I don't want to get into a fight, dude. It's funny when you look at wild animals. People are scared of bears and mountain lions. Bro, bears and mountain lions know not to get into a fight. It's a huge risk. It's not worth it. Life is better than you think about i'll tell you a story man when i was a little kid there was a i'll have to keep this one very very vague for potential legal issues but there was there was a place where some guys were working and then an office party and one
Starting point is 01:57:40 of the guys started hitting on the other guy's wife. So then the dude, let's say guy A is married, and guy B is hitting on guy A's wife. So guy A starts saying, knock it off. Get away from my wife. So guy B, being a tough guy, swings at guy A. So guy A, I think, pushes him, gets away from my wife. Guy B escalates the fight, punches guy A in the head, who falls back, hits his head on the table, instantly guy b goes to prison over so over what yeah he said some dumb words some lady he could
Starting point is 01:58:11 have just violence is crazy you know but but ultimately like the the murderer was guy b went to prison but guy a didn't need to to push him and then guy b escalated it so sometimes you know it can go back and forth but sometimes the important thing is just walk away yeah like it's somewhere else if you fight someone and you both get hurt what who's the victor it doesn't make i mean i guess there's a time and a place for combat but fights does not solve problems for the most sometimes you have to you know fights happen sometimes there's a desperate animal right is it bears and mountain lions might not want to attack you if they're starving they will they will and then you got to fight back you got to defend yourself you know so it's it's
Starting point is 01:58:49 difficult here but i guess the idea with that guy was that he was picking a fight and provoking by going after the guy's wife and then he was the one who threw the punch that yep sage meek says tim the gang have you watched the interview with yuri bezmanov the ex-kgb agent on the topic of ideological subversion what are your thoughts how far along do you think we are we have all definitely seen it many many times and i don't know how far along we are maybe we're past the event horizon i keep forgetting to to ask edward griffin to come on he's the guy who interviewed the kgb agent but he was very telling very telling. There's a reason that video has gone viral.
Starting point is 01:59:27 I think we're in touch with Edward. I put you in touch, Lydia, with his mail as a marketing manager or something. Very cool. Yeah, we'll look it up. We'll get into it in greater detail on a later show, I suppose. Stormman says, Tim, love the show and Luke and Ian are awesome,
Starting point is 01:59:43 but did you see that the board of supervisors of Maricopa County may soon face arrest as Arizona Senate fast-tracks their contempt vote? No, I didn't see that. That's crazy. Monty Isbetic Gaming says,
Starting point is 01:59:55 let's hear something less stressful. How about that WandaVision show? Okay, I got a lot. I got a lot to say about WandaVision. I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 02:00:01 The first, here's my advice to you. If you haven't seen it, skip episodes one, two, and 3. Whoa. Huge waste of time, has nothing to do with anything. My mind was blown at how bad the show was. Wow. I watched the first episode
Starting point is 02:00:15 and I thought it was gonna be a five minute gag of them pretending to do a 50s sitcom. It's literally like 40 minutes or whatever of a fake 50 sitcom and that's okay maybe that was just the first episode second episode i was like what is this third episode i was like are you kidding me honestly i didn't even watch it i thought you were saying juan as in the name juan division huh one division like it's like like like mexican joy
Starting point is 02:00:42 like a mexican like a Hispanic FBI division. Yeah, I don't know. All right, so here's what I want to say, though. Here's what I want to say. If you want WandaVision characters... Yeah, WandaVision. If you want to watch a show, just start from episode four.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Oh, Vision. That's Vision. Yes. He's got the red face, though, instead of the pure silver white Vision. What do you mean? Like in the comics, Vision was white for a long time. The first was the original one was red yeah it was different
Starting point is 02:01:07 vision start with episode four and the show is great really fun so in episode four they basically explain the first three episodes and why they wasted your time and i'm like why would they do that other than just fill episodes and claim they have more episodes than so it wasn't like any character development none are there different writers i have no idea i wonder if the writers so it's like it's like you watch the first episode and it's it's supposed to be a gimmick of i don't know i'd be witch pleasantville or something like no like bewitched the writers were like the show's tanking we got to change the premise so they started no but they had this already they go yeah the whole season though or were they writing the whole season already like it is i'll tell you this.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Whenever they do the hokey... So even episode four, it's the real world now. They're explaining what's going on, and it's a really fun show. Episode five is a mix. I just fast forward through anything where they're pretending to do a sitcom. I don't normally want you to spoil stuff, but I'm going to ask you later to tell me more about that. My advice to you is fast forward through it when Wanda... When the show is a fake fake tv show because it's a waste of your time and then as soon as you see the real show with the fbi agents and the sword agents to actually watch it that's interesting yeah so i now like tim you've made me want to watch the first three episodes because i want to
Starting point is 02:02:19 no no trust me you'll watch five minutes and turn it off you really really will. Trust me, this poop is stinky. It's stinky. You're not going to want to smell it. People just got up and walked out of the room. They're like, what is this? Do you like the show Bewitched? I haven't seen it since I was a kid. But you know what it is, right?
Starting point is 02:02:36 Yeah. The second Darren, yeah. The second Darren. The first Darren got fired or something. Why'd he get fired? Oh, I don't know the history of it. Anyway, look. It's okay.
Starting point is 02:02:46 Bewitched was a fun show, okay? But would you watch knockoff Bewitched? I just watched Bewitched. I wouldn't. I just watched Bewitched. I'm not going to watch this. This is stupid. It's really bad, too.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Does he shoot lasers out of his eyes? Don't spoil it for me. That's really bad. The actual story is interesting. But they, like, dude. Out of of let's see you've got what like 35 to 40 minutes for each episode so you got five episodes out of all of that time there's only about an actual 50 minutes of content wow out of you know three three hours and 20 minutes yeah there's only about 50 minutes it's actual content the rest is just like you're watching
Starting point is 02:03:23 imagine if you watched a youtube video that was spoofing bewitched on youtube it would be three minutes long and you'd laugh at the jokes imagine if they made it for 40 minutes you'd be like okay dude i get it to be witched interesting anyway is it more than five episodes right now it's five i think six is coming out soon but there there's important mcu developments happening in the show oh so i just fast forward through when they pretend to be a TV show because it's the stupidest, most mind-numbing garbage I've ever watched. But the actual story is interesting.
Starting point is 02:03:55 Will Billy the Hillbilly says, to answer your question why Dems are moving to towns in red areas, city slickers want to move, live country and rustic, but don't want to live far from stores restaurants and repairmen they don't want the responsibility of living in the real country that's true chopping wood and starting fires now they need the internet right all right let's see we had a big jump we'll take uh we'll take a few more of these here we got silently in atlanta says georgia underestimated impact of becoming the Hollywood of the South. Many brought their blue view with them.
Starting point is 02:04:27 Also, commercials touted him as a filmmaker with Dr. Wife. Reduce tax breaks. New saying TMT Tom McDonald topic. Is that because you want Tom McDonald on the show? That'd be funny. It's cool, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:41 Someday. Paul Balick says doubling down on my last super chat free apparel pitch for we are changed at org one face mask with print of dog muzzle two face mask made to look like a bra with the phrase free the lip ah we we do have some face masks the dog muzzle one is good that's a uh and one has a picture of the npc lips one says censored. We have a whole bunch of different ones available for you guys. Abe Eckstein says, hey Siraj, it's weird watching you without Yashar taking over the chat.
Starting point is 02:05:12 Why does he do that? Because of my Habibi Bros Habibi Power Hour that's 10pm on Wednesday nights on YouTube. Yashar pops in and trolls me and Jen. Heashar pops in. Yashar pops in. Yashar. And trolls me and Jen. He's a cool dude.
Starting point is 02:05:28 Yeah. People seem to really like that guy. Really like Yashar. He's a connected dude. He knows a lot of people. Is that the co-host? No. No, no.
Starting point is 02:05:37 He's a journalist. But he's one of the few journalists where conservatives and liberals are like, they think he's all right. Oh, cool. Maybe we can have him on the show someday. He's all the way out in Cali. Yeah. I mean, we fly people out. right. Oh, cool. Maybe we can have him on the show someday. He's all the way out in Cali. Yeah. I mean, we fly people out.
Starting point is 02:05:48 Oh, okay. All right, here we go. Trayton Evans says, been watching your show for years now. Time I pay for this free content. Keep up the good work. Hey, really appreciate it. But the better thing you can do
Starting point is 02:05:56 is go to timcast.com and become a member. That way, if we ever get banned, we have a place where our content will exist. And we're producing exclusive podcast segments and episodes for members only. That does remind me, you can pay $4.99 a month to this channel on YouTube to become like a channel member that gives you like special
Starting point is 02:06:14 color emotes in the chat. But it doesn't give you any website. So just probably you haven't done this, but just in case, make sure if you subscribe on YouTube, that's not the website. They're different. Yeah, Timcast.com. I think that's what people are confused about. All right, let's see
Starting point is 02:06:27 what we got here. Gizzy Mac says, there's an oil spill in the Bay Area. There was a five-gallon leak every minute. Can't check more on it at work. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:06:36 We'll look into that. Kristen Larson. Ian, did you have any luck in love or did you fail? I had much luck in love, actually. I spent like seven years with one girl and then I was single for a while, then did another girl for four years. And I toyed with roping in and settling down.
Starting point is 02:06:56 And I don't know. Sometimes I have regrets, but I try to live without them. Part of me is like, I should have just married her, man, and had the kids and lived that life because she'd just be here with me right now but i maybe i wouldn't be here right now if i did do that you're gonna get you're gonna get visited by um what's the guy's name marley yeah he's gonna be like look at what you man it's your old business video games from your head shop where did you put the blunt aren't you here to tell me yeah aren't you here to tell me if i fix my life what no i just can't find the weed he's stoned he's like sitting in the room and
Starting point is 02:07:35 you're like you have a message what all right everybody thanks for hanging out we do the show live monday to friday at 8 p.m we will be back tomorrow night of course you can follow me on twitter instagram and mines at timcast my other youtube channels are youtube.com slash timcast We do the show live Monday to Friday at 8 p.m. We will be back tomorrow night, of course. You can follow me on Twitter, Instagram, and mine's at TimCast. My other YouTube channels are YouTube.com slash TimCast, YouTube.com slash TimCastNews. Don't forget to like, share, subscribe to this channel if you're listening on the podcast. Leave us a good review. It really, really does help. Go to TimCast.com.
Starting point is 02:07:57 We will have a bonus segment for you coming up in just a moment later tonight after we record it. And, Siraj, you want to mention your social media or anything like that? you can find me on twitter i'm at siraj a hash me if you can spell it there you go i couldn't it took me like three times it's just look up s-i-r-a-j it's me on twitter of course you can find us on youtube by finding obviously that name as well um and then uh if you want to check out the list i'm on patreon um siraj hashmi is the name again it's just look up the look up the the the name on twitter all of it is in the bio you don't have to worry boom there you go i personally am taking full advantage of the 24 hour delete feature on instagram and if you want to see my questionable content you can on luke we
Starting point is 02:08:45 are change also the shirt i'm wearing right now uh i made after i was inspired by the gamestop uh rebellion let's let me read it and it says banker noun ruthless scumbag who will eat your lunch and then charge you for it yes and if you wish to get this shirt you can on the best political shirts.com and thank you guys for having me. Really appreciate your time here. And you can follow me, Ian Crosland, on the internet at Twitter, where I'm very proactive and like to interact at Mines, which I was a co-founder of. You can subscribe to me on YouTube
Starting point is 02:09:13 and follow me on twitch.tv slash iancrosland, where I do daily, not daily, necessarily streams, but stream frequently. I do Twitch, too. It's a good game. What do you play? Right now, I did say Demon's Souls at Dukad. I'm going to get... I just started
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