Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #229 - Disney Declares Muppets Negative Stereotypes, Coke Says BE LESS WHITE w/Sydney Watson

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia host commentator and fellow YouTuber Sydney Watson to discuss the racism of the Muppets, the Coca-Cola company-wide policy regarding 'whiteness', democrats letter to media giants to attempt to censor conservative news, and the curse of too much critical thinking, as laid out by the New York Times.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I saw a tweet from Seth MacFarlane earlier. He said that he was basically saying the reason why we can't reach the far right is because Disney said that the Muppets were racist. And I'm like, I mean, I guess it's kind of bad that Disney is saying the Muppets are racist. I have no idea what that has to do with the far right. However, like, wouldn't they like that the Muppets are racist? It didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.

And the other thing, too, is that Seth MacFarlane, I appreciate that he's called out cancel culture. He's pretty much like Brian Griffin in his own Family Guy show, like an insufferable liberal. But he does use Family Guy to complain about cancel culture. I got to say, Family Guy, though, is probably like the most racist show on TV, like making overt racist jokes all the time. And for some reason, and I'm not, I'll just say that, like, for some reason, the left doesn't go after it. Maybe it's because Seth MacFarlane is staunchly liberal and anti-Trump and pro-Biden that he gets a pass. But that represents, I guess, the problem of the double standard.

I guess the big issue here, we'll talk about this, all this different cultural stuff is the Muppets are racist. It's important that you know this. You shouldn't watch them. And if you do, you should know that you're a bad person. We'll talk about that and a bunch of other things, too. Look, we got a bunch of political news. Coca-Cola was telling people not to be less white.

I don't know exactly what they're trying to imply. Like, I don't know. What does that mean? Do you, like, put on bronzer or something? That's not okay either. So I don't know what they want people to do. But I guess in the curriculum they're teaching people, they were saying that being white is also being arrogant and ignorant at the same time. So sounds like they're racist.

We'll talk about that. We got some other political stuff. Cuomo apparently is issuing mafioso like threats to everybody now as he burns down in flames over having killed 13000 people in nursing homes, and everyone is turning on him. The reports now that he's issuing threats, and people are saying it's like gangster-level stuff. Look into that.

We're being joined today by some random Australian woman who for some reason is in my studio, Sydney Watson. I love this. Can this be like a new thing? I get some good intros, but this is probably my favorite random Australian woman. Yes, random Australian woman. Tell me, why are you here? Because I'm, I don't't know why am i in the u.s or why am i in your house why in my house look i think it's a really long story basically i got on a plane

then i was like i'm gonna stalk and harass tim that's what i want to do today yeah we caught her we caught her outside hiding under one of the cars with a few of the cats i was trying to just like spoon vegemite into my mouth while i like screamed no but you you live in Texas. Yeah, I do. I live in Texas. I live in the U.S., yeah. But you're also American, right? Yeah. I'm a citizen. I'm a dual citizen.

For those that aren't familiar, you're actually a YouTuber with a pretty big channel. Yeah. Do you want to just actually introduce? Moderate channel. Yeah. So, I mean, I'm an Australian-American conservative libertarian-esque political commentator that makes YouTube videos and complains on the internet a whole lot. Hey, excellent. We complain on the internet too. That's going to be great. It's like my MO.

Right on. We'll do that. We got Luke here. He also complains on the internet. Constructively criticized, I think, is a more fair term. I mean, it's crazy out there. They're going after the Muppets. I heard that the Coca-Cola They're going after the Muppets. The Coca-Cola white polar bear had an identity crisis today.

It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. So I'm following all of it. I'm also tweeting about it on Twitter.com forward slash Luke. We are change. And if you want to support me, you could also support my voluntary efforts on Venmo and Cash App under Luke. We are changing because you do.

I'm here. So thanks so much for having me. We got Ian Schillen. Crossland in the house. What up, dog? Sydney, I'm glad you're here and from Texas because I want to hear about what it's been like this last week. Do you mean with the freezing cold weather? Yeah.

Just being, yeah, no, it was actually really, really not pleasant. It wasn't my favorite experience in the whole world. I didn't have power for power heating and water really for about two, three-ish days, which I know sounds completely, you know, some people be like, oh, boo-hoo. But when it's minus 14 degrees Celsius, I don't know whether it's in your made-up numbers, but in Celsius, it was so cold that, you know, you're standing in your own house and your hands are pink and you can't feel them. It was awful. Don't give me that.

Our Fahrenheit says it makes perfect sense. Boiling point is what? Yeah, we speak American here, man. What's boiling point? Is it 216? 212. Yeah, that makes sense. 212? And freezing is 32. It makes perfect sense. Boiling point is what? We speak American here, man. What's boiling point? Is it 216? 212. 212? And freezing is 32.

It makes perfect sense. What the heck? Okay, everything that we do starts and ends with zero and hundreds and tens. That's so smart. It's just very uniform. Do you use metric time?

What is that? I didn't think so. You see, your system makes no sense because you selectively do numbers. The way you get from Celsius to Fahrenheit is you add 18 and then multiply it by 1.8.

Is that right? Yeah, it's not great. I don't know, but I do know at minus 44, they become the same. Yeah, that's true. That's actually true. Because people were basically hanging crap on me and they're saying, Sydney, you're a big crybaby. Because it doesn't snow in Australia.

I'm sorry. I have never experienced minus 14 degree weather. I've never in my life, except when i've been in the u.s that's the only time what was it like having no water um it's it it's not the fact that we had no water you just have to boil it because they turned off the electricity at the don't quote me on this not the sewage plants but the water distribution maybe whatever it was i mean i'm not i'm not an expert at that so i know chlorination but they yeah so apparently all the water now had like salmonella and e col coli and yada, yada.

So you have to boil all that, but you can't boil it because you've got no electricity because nothing's gas. So it was great, guys. The roads were super fun. Did you like hunt rabbits in your backyard? I did. I lured them. I was like, come here. Come on, little rabbit.

You can't sustain off of rabbit alone because they have no fat. It's called rabbit starvation. How do you know that? I was reading about venezuela yeah and they were talking about how people were trying to breed rabbits for food because they reproduce so quickly and they eat grass but people actually start dying from it actually i think that happened in venezuela the rabbit starvation yeah i think it happened once no maybe i'm thinking of a different country but that's like a big thing they talk about people think you can do it you can't but i think it's interesting so wait are you you were in like

a big you're in a big city yeah i live in dallas fort like dallas fort worth area yeah so like you're it's it's it it's apocalyptic when you're in a city and this stuff happens because you can't go hunt no you can't go to a river for water nope you beg the government or you run huh well it's and then i think this is a thing that people didn't realize because i had a couple friends who live in the uk who were in the cold it's been super cold in the uk and they're like sydney it's just a bit of snow i get it like that's definitely a perspective to have but you're you're in a situation where you can't drive on the roads because they're just covered in snow and ice because no one you know no one texas i thought everyone in texas had a pickup truck um they do and horses and you could horses could just run on in the snow on the ice

as well is that a and they could drift the horses like power slide okay this is not all right all right all right it was just crap you know everything was closed down you i mean look when you go into the supermarkets there's no food people are panic buying it was just a complete mess i i wouldn't recommend it was the vegan food yeah the vegan food was it was it available i went in yesterday and yeah in the meat, there was only vegan meat. I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, hmm. I'd buy it. It's not that bad.

You don't like Bill Gates' food? Bill Gates is huge in the industry of creating fake meat. He invested a ton of it, and now the mainstream media is running great puff pieces about how wonderful it is to eat fake meat. Hey, hey, hey. I think the vegan food's good. I buy it. I just don't like it when they call it chicken and when they call it meat.

Like, honey. Well, no, no, no. It's not chicken. They call it, like, chicken. And, like, racist. Chicken. Yeah. Be careful now.

I don't know. Yeah. And, like, what do they call it? Tofurkey. They don't call them boneless. They call them wangs. With a Y? W-A and, yeah, Z or whatever.

Because you can't legally call it chicken or whatever. Because it's not. I'm sorry. It's not. Wangs. I love it when you go to go to like get a burger and they'll be like oh it's it's you know it's a vegan chicken burger and i'm going no it's not this is the antithesis of that this is vegetables meat and vegetables completely different entities can we not have you had the the uh the burgers where they reintroduce the heme i don't what's that the heme is like from the hemoglobin in your blood that makes it red oh so they extract it and introduce it into these plant-based things and they taste like real meat animal meat animal meat i guess i don't think it tastes like meat

ever but would that be i think they're fine is that well yeah that's a good i don't know yeah because it comes from an animal i don't know if they derive the heme from animals in that case no i don't think so i think it's like i don't think it is yeah it's really weird anyway let's uh let's talk about the muppets we also got sarah patch let's press on the button here in the corner listening to this fun conversation i'm sarah patch let's push buttons let's just talk about the the muppets being racist ladies and gentlemen this is very important news yes the muppets are racist and i think it's important you know this and i think it's hilarious that Disney is like basically burning down its own IP. The Muppet Show.

Disney adds content warning over negative stereotypes. Disney Plus has added a content warning at the beginning of 18 episodes of The Muppet Show, which started streaming on the platform on Friday. The program includes negative depictions and or mistreatment of people or cultures. These stereotypes were wrong then and are wrong now. The disclaimer has been added to each of the episodes for different reasons, including one where Johnny Cash sings in front of the Confederate flag. The Confederacy was the group of southern states, this is the BBC writing this, mind you, that fought to keep slavery during the US Civil War.

And the flag is seen as a symbol of racism by many. Disney's disclaimer added, rather than remove this content, we want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learn from it, and spark conversations to create a more inclusive future together. The advisory note comes after several months of revisionism around films and TV programs, which could be considered offensive by the standards of today. So in this article, they have this really big image of what is it the siamese cats in lady and the tramp and the crazy thing is like are they trying to imply that these cats like are stereotypically asian do you guys know what the siamese cats look like

they're it's their drawings of cats what about these cats faces am i supposed to think is racist their eyes are long and pointed is that what they're trying to claim they're cats cats have pointy eyes or whatever are we talking about the the one where they say we are siamese if you please and it's very like asian-y in the way that they do it oh yeah maybe i'm just saying like it's kind of yeah because i what's that from though that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah and well i mean the face is not so much but it's the song that they sing right that's probably what they're getting upset about it's because it's got the little music behind it are they high on opium or something is that like an opium no dude so so but here's here's the main point right uh seth mcfarland tweeted this might be why we're having so much difficulty getting through to the

far right and it says disney plus adds negative depictions disclaimer to The Muppet Show. What does that mean? Seth MacFarlane can't we can't get through to the far right. What is he trying to say by that? By telling people that The Muppet Show is racist, the far right won't listen to you? Possibly. Is Seth MacFarlane saying? Well, I mean, it makes sense. Family Guy.

I was watching Family Guy the other day, and there's an episode where Peter gets a whip. He buys a whip, I guess. And then it shows Cleveland, Cleveland Brown, who's a other day, and there's an episode where Peter gets a whip. He buys a whip, I guess. And then it shows Cleveland, Cleveland Brown, who's a black character, and he's sitting on his couch. And then you see Peter pull up to the front of his house, which makes no sense because Peter lives across the street, for those that actually watch the show. And then he starts running towards the house with the whip, and then Cleveland's phone rings. And it's Joe saying, just want to warn you, Cleveland, that Peter has a whip. And I think that matters to you based on your ethnical heritage. And then Peter knocks on the door and says, you know, a delivery of grape soda quarterly or something.

And then Cleveland Brown says, well, the risk is great, but the upside is certainly worth it. And he like walks over. The crazy thing about that is, and don't get me wrong, I clearly like the show Family Guy, is that Cleveland Brown, they clearly were making a joke about grape soda and black people, and Cleveland Brown is played by a white guy. So it's like Peter Griffin's going to his house with a whip.

It's just like all around the show definitely does tons of racist jokes. But the main point is, Disney owns Family Guy. Disney owns Family Guy. Okay, listen. They bought them a long time ago, years ago. jokes but but the main point is disney owns family guy disney owns family guy guy okay listen they bought them a long time ago years ago if they're going to come out and say the stereotypes were wrong for the muppets back then what you're putting out the shows now what are you talking about not only that tim but this is the same disney that publicly thanked the detention guards

that were at the detention center for the Uyghur Muslims. There's there's you know, if you're talking about prioritizing some issues here, maybe, you know, not working with the communist Chinese on detaining Uyghur Muslims and congratulating them, you know, might be a bigger issue than some Siamese cats. I would just say, but that's my personal opinion. But this is the Muppets, too. Yeah. I mean, it's just it's just ridiculousness that we're having these conversations about things that absolutely have no merit absolutely have no effect absolutely have no credence in anyone existence in this world but

yet here we are fighting it i mean when when there's literally human slave labor there's organ harvesting there's other things happening in china that we can't even mention that of course are condoned or congratulated or or or disney approved of but by by disney i mean it's i love it i love it disney fires gina carano because she said don't demon don't demonize your neighbors they they claim that muppets is racist and those stereotypes were wrong then and they are wrong now family guy Guy, which is owned by Disney, is just overtly making racist, anti-Semitic and gay jokes all the time. And they thank the – there's no uniformity in anything they do. None of it makes sense, which is why I just don't understand why they care if the Muppets are racist or not. You know, regarding Family Guy, I think it's – Seth's kind of interesting because he's kind of like Chappelle.

He talks about – his stuff is racial, but it's not racist. He's not doesn't have like ill intent when he does his work or he doesn't seem to. Same with Dave. He can paint himself white and act like a white guy making fun of white people. But Dave Chappelle is one of the most loving humans in the industry. Well, it's like George Carlin. You know, he did this whole bit in the early 90s about it's not the words, it's the person behind behind the words if someone's doing a comedy bit like george colin actually used all the racial slurs you can think of on his show he's not racist he was making a point about racism through humor if if disney is going to come out and thank these concentration camp guards claim the muppets is racist and then like what about all their other properties too that's what i don't understand

was it like one employee at the muppets show who was like oh we got to make sure everybody knows this is racist and had no power in other areas or what it's probably because they're having all this attention drawn on them now uh regarding the gina carano thing that's probably why they're doing all of this it's like i don't know i don't understand the purpose of retroactively judging something by today's standards i think that's where this issue comes in i mean if you think about it it's not seth mcfarland also made american dad did he not yeah and that's where this issue comes in. I mean, if you think about it, it's not Seth MacFarlane also made American Dad, did he not? Yeah. And that's also on the same level of super offensive content.

Which, I mean, mind you, I love American Dad. I think it's funny. And I love the humor in both of those, both American Dad and Family Guy, excuse me. But I think the problem is that Disney, I think at this point, because they are getting so much heat right now from everyone on all sides they're probably just going and just making these really random unilateral decisions look family guy is on 24 7 you could you could turn the tv turn on is that still being made i'm pretty i'm pretty sure yeah yeah yeah there's actually a funny joke you know the orville that's another show that seth mcfarland is doing and there's a there's a joke in a family episode where it's just peter and chris griffin sitting next sitting in front of the tv and the tv goes

and now back to the orville and then peter shoots the tv like a bunch of times and then chris goes wow dad you sure hate the orville why do you hate the orville and then it's some random guy's voice not seth mcfarland he goes because ch, the Orville is making it difficult for Seth to complete the Family Guy shows he's working on. Something like that. So anyway, Family Guy is on 24-7.

You turn on the TV, it's on some channels, on local TV show, local channels. It's on TBS, on FXX. It's on Cartoon Network. It's on Fox. New episodes on Hulu. Disney

owns Hulu. They're not going to give up all that free cash. So I just don't understand. Maybe it's more like a culture revolution thing, right? That's what I was saying. Seth McFarlane is super traditional liberal, pro-Biden and all that stuff. So they give him a pass because he benefits their party. But they go after the Muppets

because the Muppets is the old that must be purged or something. Why is he making those jokes jokes this is what i don't understand if seth mcfarlane is a liberal why is he making these jokes in the first place that's that's not that that's not their mo this is not the sort of humor that they come out with i think a lot of this honestly it's just kabuki theater as far as i'm concerned yeah i don't believe for a second that someone like that is a liberal i'm sorry i just don't yeah i don't either i was shocked when he started getting political i just don't believe it. Seth MacFarlane also whistleblowed on Harvey Weinstein

way before anyone even knew who Harvey Weinstein was as far as his predatory kind of attacks, and Kevin Spacey. So he spoke out on this very nasty industry that's called Hollywood that's filled with predators and other things that I can't even say on this show because it's a family-friendly show

and because of the YouTube censors. But there's people in Hollywood that are absolutely evil. That's one way of describing it that Seth has called out. And, you know, let's be honest here. Disney is a part of that larger kind of Hollywood institution that's not known for having the best record. I mean, there's a reason Bob Igor, the executive chairman of Disney, was pinned by Biden to be the ambassador to China. You know, there's a reason Bob Igor, the executive chairman of Disney, was pinned by Biden to be the ambassador to China. You know, there's a reason these multinational corporations are so tied in together, especially with big countries. That's why they did the cats, the Asian cats, because it offended China. Could be.

I know Siam and China are the same thing. And it's not far to speculate that because China many times hasllywood and had them edit out specific scenes specific mentions even scripts china rewrote scripts of u.s hollywood movies because they founded offenses or they didn't like it in top gun they even edited out tom cruise's jacket because it had mention of a war game between the united states and china and and and tibet and and there was even another mention of a war game between the United States and China and Tibet. And there was even another mention of a war game between the United States and China. Totally edited out. Totally destroyed it.

Totally made it out. So when we have China dictating what Americans could see in Hollywood, that should worry everyone on a larger scale than just, oh, look, Siamese cats. Look, Muppets here. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. If we're going to get into cleaning hollywood and making sure it's it's it's going to be a good industry you're going to

have to do some deep cleaning on some rotten nasty disgusting some would even say satanic individuals i'm i'm optimistic on a lot of political stuff a little bit like i was talking about this on my uh my main channel earlier just that that it seems like the establishment political machine in this country has a serious problem with the best they could muster to stop Trump and Bernie Sanders is Joe Biden. Like, what are they going to do in 2024? They got nobody left. The populist left is growing. The populist right ain't going nowhere. Trump says I'm coming. So that makes me optimistic that not for either of those parties necessarily, but that the establishment machine is on the ropes and struggling.

But then I gotta tell you, I'm really pessimistic when I hear this stuff. Like, if Seth MacFarlane, check it out, he did call out Weinstein. He was on an awards show or something like that where he said something about it. He just like said it on like- He made slide jokes about him being a predator

and abusing children. And then also on his show, mentioned it. On Family Guy, they mentioned it uh on family guy yeah they mentioned it several times and kevin spacey but no there was like an award ceremony or something where seth mcfarland like basically said it and he's also interestingly seth mcfarland knows a ton of secrets about hollywood they he he called out weinstein he called out kevin spacey and they also called out uh bruce at bruce bruce jenner transitioned to c to Caitlyn Jenner in 2009. And then they later were like, look, see.

But it's because Seth MacFarlane, they act like, oh, no, he got it right. No, Seth MacFarlane knows all of this Hollywood stuff. He leaked some of it. The crazy thing is if that's the best Hollywood has in terms of like actually calling it out, is Seth MacFarlane sometimes putting a joke out there because he knows it's happening. But when did Seth MacFarlane come out and say, ladies and gentlemen, I have a very important announcement to make. Harvey Weinstein is doing these horrible things. He made a joke about it. But Kevin Spacey is doing these horrible things. No, it's Stewie running through the mall making

a joke about it. But this is the thing. Seth made a joke about something that people in Hollywood knew for over 30 years. For 30 years, they knew that there was this monster Weinstein connected to, of course, the Clintons, bankrolling a lot of the Democrats, tightly connected to all the ruling elites and upper establishments. And they knew he was hurting people for over 30 years in unspeakable ways, ways we can't even mention on this YouTube channel. And yet, the only thing that happened was Seth just made some snide jokes about it. I mean, it's disgusting to even think about it this way. Yeah, but what's the option, though?

Is it what he says something and then what? Like he actually comes out and says, hey, guys, this is actually happening. What if no one's prepared to attack him? That's how Bill Cosby went down. It was a comedian that took down Bill Cosby, Hannibal Buress, that made jokes about it. And he was like, guys, this is not a joke.

Everyone was laughing, thinking he was joking about Bill Cosby. But that's literally, it literally took a comedian to bring down bill cosby another horrible person within the entertainment hollywood industry that again sells their soul to the highest bidder who has the most amount of money usually china uh sorry go ahead i no no no it's i just i get what you're saying but i don't think that bill cosby and harvey weinstein are on the same level in the sense of power control and all that sort of stuff not that that I'm obviously a Hollywood executive

that knows the ins and outs of all of it, but I would argue that Weinstein probably wields a lot more power than, say, you know... Definitely. Yeah, and he wielded it. They're both huge, you know, in terms of how they manipulate people. But this is the thing. In the letter of the law in the United States,

if you know a crime is happening and you don't do anything about it, you're an accessory to that crime. No, that's not necessarily true. Well, it depends on the circumstances and the United States. If you know a crime is happening and you don't do anything about it, you're an accessory to that crime. No, that's not necessarily true. Well, it depends on the circumstances and the situations. And there's many variables we can entertain here. But when you know someone is... I mean, 30 years... If it was happening in his studios and his... The NYPD literally ran investigations when they had undercover operatives be abused by Weinstein, and they still didn't do nothing. So the NYPD literally had audio tapes of Weinstein abusing a woman that was working undercover for the NYPD and the NYPD sent on it.

Why? Why? He's connected to the Clintons. This is what I'm saying. That's one speculation, but he's a very powerful, connected person. This is what I'm saying. Why would someone call him out if he thinks that, oh, you know what? I don't want to end up as you know part of like the clinton's uh death tally like like i mean i don't

know how many people believe in all the conspiratorial stuff surrounding them but like why would you call it out if you're gonna get that in self the whole the whole harvey weinstein story is a conspiracy within itself and you have a choice you know something they were covering it up yeah they were actively covering up so if you know something's wrong you have a choice either allow it to happen or speak out against it. And maybe something will happen, maybe something won't happen. But the right thing to do is always speak out against someone that's a monster and has been described as a monster that has done unspeakable things that are absolutely disgusting. And these are the people that are protected within the industry that's

now lecturing us about what's appropriate and not appropriate for us to see. I mean, I'm just sick of it. I'm just absolutely sick of it because it's not just a dem of vipers. It's a dem of child abusing, let's be honest here, individuals who don't give a damn about anyone and don't play by the same rules as everyone else. We'll be specific. That was, was it Corey Haim or Feldman? Corey Feldman.

Yeah, Corey Feldman. They called out these, I'm not going to name some of these individuals. It's not just him. There's a lot of celebrities. No, no, no. They were calling out the, oh, right, right, right.

They were calling out the abusers themselves. And a lot of these guys ended up finally getting caught. But it takes, it's crazy that you have these people, these whistleblowers, and nothing happens. Because these people,

these powerful people in industry, they don't. The industry is selling sex. And that's what they'll tell you if you're in that industry, to your face, as your manager. They'll say, you're very sexy. We want to sell your sex. It's crazy.

Your own manager. But I'll tell you this, Luke. In order to call them out, people would need spines. It's not a common thing these days, man. We're a wealthy nation. And you look at the nba you look at these people who are just like hey china tell me whatever you want because you've got money you look at all these professors that are getting busted for spying for china

then you look at you know like you mentioned bob was it bob eiger i think yeah bobby gar but biden wanted him to be the ambassador to china is that happening uh we don't know yet i haven't seen any updates on that yet but he pinned him as the guy he wanted in there the washington post surprisingly wrote an article about how that's a bad idea i was surprised by that uh obviously it's a very bad idea but surprised to see it in the washington post but uh i haven't heard any updates about that i think the position is still up and hasn't been decided yeah well let's let's let's talk about the next uh ultra woke story here so uh this is something that's been going viral quite a bit. We got this from Newsweek.

Coca-Cola facing backlash says be less white. Learning plan was about workplace inclusion. That's the gist of the story. Coca-Cola is facing a mounting backlash from conservatives online. That's what I really love about how they frame this. Conservatives are upset. Ian, are you a conservative? Not really. Sometimesatives are upset. Ian, are you a conservative? Well, not really.

Sometimes, I guess. Do you think it's absurd that Coca-Cola told his employees to be less white? Yeah, it's ridiculous. So, Newsweek, you need to correct your story. It's not just conservatives. It actually says that? Be less white? Try to be less white.

That's ridiculous. If I heard that and I was a kid, I'd be like, darken my skin? Like with a crayon? That's what I was saying. First, I thought putting on bronzer and stuff is racist. Ian, it's literally a slide that says try to be less white. Oh, man. And the way that they describe white is oppressive, arrogant, and ignorant.

Now, if you said be less oppressive, arrogant, and ignorant, that's all you're saying. No, no, no. They're saying if you're white, you are oppressive, arrogant, and ignorant. And I have to point out, you know, Luke and I are both not white. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's wrong. I'm double white.

Scandalous. You're like triple white. No, no, no. Not anymore. Not anymore. According to who? The protesters in New York. So the Asians were getting attacked, and they said, march against white nationalism.

And that proves that Asians are now minorities again. Oh, are they? But Luke is Slavic, and according to the Coalition of People of... Coalition of Communities of Color. I'm looking it up right now so I can get my card. I'm getting my privilege card ready. Hold on. There's an organization called the... It's called the Coalition of Communities of Color, and they say Slavic people are not white.

So, for Luke here, who's literally got, you know... What color is your hair, Luke? You say strawberry blonde? Brown? Yeah. Strawberry blonde. Dirty blonde. Blue eyes.

Yeah. White skin. Big nose. Better than me. Big nose. You're not white. Putin looking like. Putin looking like.

You're not white. So try to be more like Luke, apparently Coke is saying. Yeah. I don't understand this. So you're not considered white. I was born in Poland. So being born in Poland, I'm a Slavic individual. Victims of communism.

I think you're literally paler than I am. And I'm pale. How dare you make an observation like this. I am pink, okay? No, you're beige. Beige. Beige. We'll go with that.

This is what they're trying to say, though. They're saying it's politically white. Well, this is the thing. They make this distinction. This is the weirdest thing about liberals today. I just, this stuff kills me. They make this distinction between white people and whiteness all the time as if it somehow makes what they're saying less racist. Like it's this thing that they're like, you know what?

I mean, like on a fundamental level, being a white person is okay. But having a whiteness, this internalized thing that you can have as just any person not okay and it's like yep all right cool makes sense it's it's so insidious how they they tie negative traits towards the idea of being white and then when you call them off a racist they go oh no no we don't mean your race we mean it's just a word and you're like no but if no one understands that you're literally talking about race my favorite thing with the story there's a couple articles one of them said it said coca-cola is accused of reverse racism for saying try to be less white i haven't heard anybody said that's reverse racist everyone's just saying it's literally racist another thing that's really

important to kind of point out here you brought up the rally that happened in new york city where hundreds of people came out against the rally against white nationalism for noel quintano noel quintano was a filipino man that was slashed across the face beat up brutally not by a white guy uh and it was a people are saying this was a racially motivated motivated attack it's all because of white nationalism the guy who attacked him wasn't white. Was he black? Yeah. Same in San Francisco. There's another report of a hate crime, and there's another call for a rally against white nationalism.

And again, the victim was Asian, and the perpetrator was not white. This is the biggest problem I have with it. First, I need you to clarify, so I'm once again not white? Is that what's happening here? Well, you're like, you're like, you know, you have a lot of privilege. So you're getting kicked out of universities.

That's true. Because you're too smart. Because you're too smart. Yeah. Yeah. So the problem I have is these well-to-do liberal progressive types are focusing on some racial ideology that literally nothing to do with these crimes, making it harder for us to actually have activism around these crimes.

I don't care if the perpetrator was white or black or Asian or Latino. I care that the crime that was committed was illegal and someone got hurt. So how about we rally against violence? We rally against racially motivated violence. They make it about white nationalism. And then there's no real conversation about what's driving the racism in these communities. The problem is if they acknowledge that, guess what? Black people can be racist. Asian people, Asian people are really racist, particularly in Asia. I'm not super, you know, I know a lot of a lot of American Asian people as

well who are pretty good because Americans, we grew up in this culture. We tend to do a better job. But my friends and people I know who have come from Asian countries, they tend to be pretty racist, right? Anybody of any race can be racist, have prejudicial views, and view others as superior or inferior. It is rampant in Southeast Asia, no joke. And if we can't acknowledge that because these well-to-do white progressives are obsessed with themselves and they think somehow white is superior or privileged. Like, I'm sorry, man, that is leftist white supremacy. This idea that their race is paramount and privileged above all others and that no matter what happens, no matter who commits the crime, it's not the fault of the individual who committed the crime. It's's white like these people really hold themselves

to such esteem that no matter it's it's remarkable no matter who commits the crime they're like well actually it's all about white people i'm like dude you're racist that's not true man and and actually you know traveling the world whether it was asia africa latin america you realize that holy cow the world's really racist and i'll just be honest here you know i'm not a big nationalist at all i don't i don't like governments at all but the united states honestly is one of the least racist places that i've you know seen and and was able to observe it is the least racist place i've ever been to yeah same no joke yeah you travel to africa you travel to asia you travel to latin america your eyes will open up to the reality of the world. Sweden.

Sweden was more racist than the United States when I went there. It was shockingly racist. But maybe racist isn't necessarily the right word. Xenophobic is probably a better word for it. And I know that word gets thrown around a lot by progressives in this country, but no, let me explain. We interviewed this woman who was

American, who spoke Swedish, got married to a Swede, moved to Sweden, and she couldn't get a job. And she said it's because nobody wants to hire someone with an accent. So it wasn't even about the race. It was about you're not Swedish. So it's super nationalistic in a sense. And what I discovered, especially in Sweden, especially from many minorities who are working

on trying to end this stuff, they would say like, Swedes very much like to pretend that they're not racist, but they are super racist. So what they'll do is they'll be like, we're going to help all these poor minorities and then put them all into like some community with limited resources and do nothing for them and watch it fester and then just claim to everybody how not racist they are.

Super racist. The people pretending not to be racist are usually the biggest racist. Same with homophobes. The biggest homophobes are usually the biggest guys who are in the closet let's just be honest what was up with all those republicans who are like super anti-gay but then turned out to be gay yeah that that republican who was caught in the bathroom all right trying to solicit from an undercover police officer some interesting activity i'm family friendly don't worry tim i'm gonna be very family friendly here another thing to really kind of consider here is that you know a lot of people are attributing you know white nationalism to you know different people of race you know

beating each other up but this is happening in new york city this is happening in san francisco where we're seeing these rallies and we're seeing these kind of alleged hate crimes but we have to understand crime is going up dramatically in these places regardless of race. It's becoming more of a violent, more of a criminal place where even a two-year-old got punched in the head by a panhandler in a New York City subway just recently.

There was other footage of a guy beating another one with a baseball bat brutally. The amount of violence that is overtaking New York City is really reaching proportions that are unlivable for many people. It's one of the reasons I left. I'm never going to be coming back there ever again. And this is the city that I grew up in. This is the city that I was raised in.

And it's even coming back to a place where when I first came into it, it was extremely violent, extremely somewhere we don't want to be. So we'll bring it back to this Coca-Cola thing where they're telling people to be less white. This weird try to be less white thing is the result of people who refuse to acknowledge the problems in their community and look for a scapegoat. If there is an Asian man who is slashed across the face, attacked by a black person, race doesn't need to be the defining. Like the law was broken. You can't slash people in the face. What happens then is you get these activists, these progressives scapegoating the problem, making it about white nationalism instead of general crime, violence, poverty, etc.

So the problem doesn't get solved. And then people who don't understand what the march is all about, instead of going after the core issues, class issues, for one, they then start saying, we need to tell everybody to be less white because you see what happens to that poor Asian man. I'm like, that had nothing to do with it. Now, all of a sudden you got Coca-Cola. They don't know what that means. Be less white. They have no idea what that is. They read it in the Robin D'Angelo book. That woman is an avowed racist. She says she's a racist. Why are you teaching people to be like a racist woman? It makes no sense. It's funny because like when you talk about this as someone who's grown up in a different country,

like that's Australia, and obviously Australia is pretty ethno-homogeneous in the sense that, you know, I think the population is 90% white or something like that. You have this perception of the US and you come here and then when you see what the communities are like,

I agree with you in the sense that there's a lot of non-self accountability that goes down in particular communities. And as someone who has now lived in the U.S. for almost two years, who's observed a lot of it, as a completely objective third party observer, I have no personal interest in the racial affairs of the United States. and when you are treated by in a certain way by particular groups of people you come to realize that it's not the white population in my opinion maybe i'm saying this because i'm a white person that's probably what people would say but as a white person i don't think that it's the white population that's even the racist group in this country i don't know if i don't know if you guys would agree with that but as an outsider someone who's come into it i think that there's a lot of

i think you're wrong you think the white population is the most racist? Absolutely. All the time? They're called liberals. Yeah, they're called Democrats. No, but generally, like, white... Like, even... I know you guys are joking, but like...

No, not... No, no, no, no, no, no. No, white liberals are... Yeah, for sure. But, like, normal people, you and me, I don't care what you look like. Just be normal to me. Right, right, right, right, right.

But listen, listen. I think I understand what you're trying to say, that you're talking about, like, negative racism where someone would attack a person of another race, right, right, right. Listen, listen, I think I understand what you're trying to say that you're talking about like negative racism where someone would attack a person of another race, right? No, I'm talking about the fact that like America. So I don't see white people going around and going,. So there's a chart that shows in-group, out-group preference among different races. And they split up white by liberal and conservative. Liberals are the only group with an out-group preference. White liberals are quite literally the most racist. So the in-group preference among black, Asian, Latino is less, I believe,

than the out-group preference of white liberals. But I don't consider their opinions when I talk about anything because I think they're so radical. And I really do. I think they're so radical that I don't even register. The far left to me, the people that you're talking about, to me, they're so far gone that I don't even register their opinions. This is major companies. These are the establishment pushing these talking points. We're talking about governments, universities, high schools, major corporations pushing these talking points, these lectures by Robin DiAngelo, this white woman who's trying to make sure people don't understand that she's also white. She's racist. She says she's racist. Yes. since when do we take our talking points from racism coca-cola employs

a large number of employees and this influence this kind of uh you know conjecture of how bad it is to be white how bad it is to be born of a certain dna. It's just absolutely ridiculous. But this is the institutions that set policies. These are young minds of children that are being taught this in schools every single day. This is going to become the new norm, this kind of line of thinking, if it's not challenged. And it's not challenged. It's coming back under the Biden presidency,

and it's going to be institutionalized so much to the point where this is the new normal it already is institutionalized i mean literally like the the newest video that i made i literally just posted this yesterday is about like i have a series white people bad and it's basically just where i find the most ridiculous things on the internet of people um i'm trying not to swear to him i'm trying to think of alternate words people just attacking white people over just nonsense and there was one thing that i found that really disturbed me and it came from i believe the original post was basically white people can experience murder and i and i went and looked into that yeah it was mental i went and looked i looked into it a little bit and i believe that it's more or less a troll post came from like 4chan you know when they want

to like rile people up because i couldn't find it on any lefty forums. But when I read it, I was like, this sounds like something a regressive leftist would say, but that's, that was not the disturbing part. The disturbing thing was a video that I found that had been, um,

screened effectively at a university, so to speak in San Francisco called, why don't we murder more white people? What? Yes. Yep. No, no. It's like, I encourage people. I'm not going to float my own channel, don't we murder more white people? What? Yes. What? Yep. No, no.

It's like I encourage people. I'm not going to float my own channel, but I put a bunch of clips in this video. Shout it out. No, it's just, I mean, like, I just, it was the most. What's the name of the video? The video on my channel?

That you did about this. White people bad part three. Okay. That's the easy title. So listen, listen. It's literally the newest video, but this thing was mental. Oh my gosh. The area I grew up in was very, was very just mixed. That's an easy title to remember. So listen, listen. It's literally the newest year, but this thing was mental. Oh my gosh.

The area I grew up in was very just mixed, a bunch of different, you know, we had Polish immigrants, we had Latino, we had Asian, we had black people. And we all got along with each other. And I think it was because we all live next to each other. You know what I mean? When you say you don't think white people are the most racist, I would say if you have this view of racism as like a guy walks into a store and they say, we don't serve your kind around these parts, but we're talking about literal racism. The white progressives in this country are substantially exponentially more racist than any other group I've ever encountered. I've been all over the country, been all over the planet. And it was amazing when I first went to Occupy Wall Street. So I had before Occupy Wall Street, I hadn't left the country, but I had been all over

the country in various places. I had been in conservative areas. I had been on a military basis. I got to, you know, I hung out with people who are religious and pro-life. And I really didn't think racism was all that prominent. I thought, like, this is it. Like, we've done away with these old stereotypes. There's still problems.

You know, the remnants of blockbusting and redlining persisted into the 80s and still exist in some forms today. But I'm like, man, we really are winning and crushing these racists. And then I went to Occupy Wall Street and the progressives segregated everybody based on race into different groups based on their race. And your voting privileges in the community was determined partially based on your race. So they had some groups where it was like the Black Caucus got a vote and how money was spent simply because it was a group of black people.

But then you had like the sanitation working group. They got a vote on spending money based on the fact that they all cleaned and were sanitary. And so I was like, I don't understand why voting power is derived based on the fact that you're a group of people based on race. And they were like, you just don't understand because, you know, we got to break down all the racism, whatever. There was one black dude at Occupy Wall Street, not super involved, and he was chilling. I saw him arguing with somebody one day. It's not at Zuccotti Park. And I overheard him talking. And then he was disparaging Occupy Wall Street. It's interesting. So I went to him. I was like, hey, bro, you're hanging out here.

You think this is crazy? And he went, bro, do you have any idea what the press would say if they found out y'all are segregating people based on race into different colored groups? That's crazy. And I was like, I agree with you. These people are nuts. I had never experienced that kind of racism in my life. I have met racist, redneck conservative types, and I have heard them say horrible things.

But it's always like, so I had an Uber driver once who was like, it was in Virginia, and this guy was super racist. He slowly started, we were talking about politics, and then he mentioned something particularly racist, and then immediately walked it back because he knew it was not socially acceptable. So that guy was a racist, but he couldn't say it. These progressive flaunt it. They shout to the high heavens we're racist they scream and then write books about it and coca-cola hires them to teach their employees how to be racist amazing welcome to america 2021 it's insane one of the other interesting aspects of occupy wall street being there from the very beginning to the very end was to see it kind of emerge into two different classes we had the we had the uptown area, which had all the liberals and all the white people in the libraries,

and then we had the downtown area. And then the uptown and the downtown area had an internal conflict and fight within Occupy Wall Street. So seeing these social dynamics kind of recreate itself in our main society was amazing and incredible to see in real life as it kind of unfolded on this kind of timescale. But another thing I wanted to bring up, Babylon Bee made some really good points today, and they brought up seven points about how to be less white. If you don't mind, I'm going to read some of them. I'm not going to read all of them, but I think there's

some important takeaways here. Number five, it says throw away all of your ranch dressing. Ranch dressing, mayo, it's all got to go. No, I love mayo. Number seven, it says hate yourself every walking moment until you have sufficiently atoned to your whiteness. Oops, spoiler alert, you'll never sufficiently atone for your whiteness. Better go back to step three. Step three.

No. Step three is to You know Terminate yourself Terminate functions Terminate your internal functions from working as a human being And then there you go Racism ended forever So Babylon would be a pretty interesting

You say it like it's a joke though But you What's weird is they're making a joke But did you guys see that cut video that came out like three months ago that talked about like all the reasons white people are the worst in the world like what are white people superior at did you guys see that no okay i'm surprised that you didn't because this this video basically i'm sure i'm sure you guys did like basically it was it was a group of um they collected a hundred black folks with an x love that for them and got them in a room and said, what are white people superior at?

And it starts off like real lighthearted, like, haha, mayonnaise. Like, okay, cool. White people love they dogs at one bit. And then it goes into, oh, they're better at oppression. They're better at white supremacy. They're better at murder. They're better at... It's so not true because I got to be honest.

Asians are just so much better at a lot of these things. No joke. The Japanese. Mongolia would like to speak to you japan japan wants to have a conversation guys japan has a lot to say about this i found out that i was i always i always thought i was a quarter korean and then i found i'm actually five percent japanese through dna tests and then i was like you know why that happened but yeah no but i mean this is the thing is that you make jokes about it, but then you go and watch this content that, mind you,

is still up on YouTube, doesn't break any freaking guidelines and things, that has people literally saying that white people are the best at oppression. Okay, well, thank you.

Well, let's say good things. What are white people good at? Tan, no. Figure skating, is that true? No, yes yeah square dancing yep uh capitalism yes it even feels dirty to say it i don't know i don't know ian go no one's white it's such a weird phrase it's such a weird descriptor they're they're wailing actually no it's not even true japanese are way better better at whaling. What the heck? Fishing, fishing.

I'll tell you this. Hold on, hold on. Caucasian DNA is better than other DNA? Let me tell you about skateboarding stereotypes. I'm going to tell you about skateboarding stereotypes, all right? These are stereotypes that I'm not saying are true, but were brought up to me when I was young in skateboarding. Asian skateboarders tend to be good at technical skateboarding, which means they can do extremely complicated maneuvers. So it's like combining the most tricks into one trick.

Black skateboarders tend to, and again, this is a stereotype that people in skateboarding have said, tend to be able to ollie better than anybody and do some of the best flat ground skating. And then white people are really good at jumping off buildings. No joke. No joke. These are the stereotypes.

So this is, again, I'm not saying I agree with them or even support these ideas, but these are stereotypes that emerge. So when people joke, I'll tell you this too.

Want to hear racism but that no one cares about? Go to a skate park and you'll hear the N-word more times than you've ever heard it in your life. And nobody cares. It's all just like

urban culture I get. You get people of all different races saying it over and over again. So these are stereotypes that get brought life. And nobody cares. It's all just like urban culture. I get you get people of all different races saying it over and over again. So these are stereotypes that get brought up. And so typically what people will say is like when they talk about, you know, what are white people good at? It's like, man, they can jump off buildings and jump down railings, basically. And this does align kind of with conquest and oppression, in my opinion.

War, you know, World War, Europe, a lot of conflict. And I was reading about this and i was reading that it was because population density in europe with nowhere to go whereas in north america asia and africa you actually can flee in the event of conflict and crisis in europe they couldn't so those who survived were those willing to fight more you know that makes sense i don't know that's true though you know but it does fall in line kind of what we're saying about oppression or whatever well i mean like i guess that some of the biggest empires were what roman greek i don't know the uh the i know they said uk yeah well the ottoman empire was the spanish the french no but who

were the biggest because then if we really want to i mean like english the english empire was what that took over like 40 percent gangas con as well he was he was pretty dope man he well I don't know about dope the murdering not so much but he I watched Marco Polo

recently that that show honestly he was pretty good I learned some stuff apparently it's Chengis not Genghis so I've been saying it wrong my whole life

wait it's Chengis Khan it's Chengis like big Chengis yep Chungus it was big Chungus that's the meme apparently it's a C sound

rather than a G sound so I've been saying that wrong my whole i heard him he enforced civil rights yeah he did he was a weird one because he even though he took over so much land it was almost like what the romans did but the romans went in and were like okay this is ours now you can still do your own thing but we're still gonna tax you and whatever but you can stay here and do whatever but what he i figured out what my people are good at. What? Communism. Oh, yeah. Wait.

No, no, no. They're not good at it. They failed every time. Everyone did. 100% of the time. But Karl Marx invented it. That's right. He didn't invent it.

He kind of wrote about it. With his friend, Engels. Now, there was a racist. That's right. Oh, my goodness. If you look at his letters, oh, my. Spicy. Yeah.

Don't. Isn't it weird that all these people that like white liberals uphold to the standard are honestly some of the worst humans when it comes to

the treatment of other racial groups yeah Che Guevara Mao Zedong yeah I don't know like cool

you know it was really so I you know listening to the Beatles you have the song Revolution and he has that

line when i was a little kid i did not understand what this meant but if you go carrying pictures of chairman mao you ain't gonna make it make it with anyone anyhow apparently you will i was a little kid i didn't understand what that meant i was like hi chairman yeah like you know and i was like a little kid singing beatles and like you know running around playing guitar whatever and then i got older and i was like oh i get it he was saying yo don't support authoritarian communists bro like that's pretty legit yeah and uh, don't support authoritarian communists, bro. Like, that's pretty legit. And I don't know.

Maybe his message didn't work out all that well. Yeah. Well, obviously it didn't. Yeah. Because these people are all about it. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.

They want to. They want to turn America into what? Like a socialist utopia. Yeah. I'm excited. I can't wait to be like standing in my bread line, you know, getting like besieged. Oh, my God. I can't wait. So excited. I'm stoked. Yeah.ieged. Oh, my God. I can't wait.

So excited. I'm stoked. Yeah. It's going to be great. Yeah. My family doesn't have good reviews of communism from what they went through. How many stars? They had a bad day.

How many stars? Zero. There's no stars in communism. There's only the redistribution of stars for everyone. Everyone gets a star in communism. Everybody gets one. One gets one one only one yes all right so well let's let's use this as a point to uh jump to the next story yeah so this is something i was talking about earlier it's from the daily mail democratic representatives write to cable companies

including at&t and comcast and streamers amazon and hulu demanding they drop fox news oan and newsmax over misinformation. I did want to jump into this. We're coming off the other segment, but we did that whole spiel with the Coca-Cola thing. But this is interesting to me because basically we can see like Disney claiming Muppets are racist and all that stuff. So let me get this straight. Disney is allowed to literally run a show of racist Muppets, but Tucker Carlson should be pulled off the air. That's, that's basically what they're saying when Democrats write to these cable

companies to remove conservative news channels. Also, I mean the ramifications of this, this is the government agents of the government trying to force private companies into shutting down their political rivals. To be fair, Tucker Carlson kind of looks like one of the Muppets. I forgot which one, but there's like a news reporter one.

But he does. It's a compliment. Also, another thing, they're going after Fox News for spreading misinformation and, quote, conspiracy theories. I mean, these are from Democratic Congress members calling for CEOs of TV companies and Internet providers to take down another news channel that doesn't subscribe to the same notions. Now, I don't like Fox.

I made a shirt against Fox, even myself, even CNN with the toilet and everything. I don't like any of these kind of partisan networks. But the bigger kind of understanding here is if these people are going to take them down for misinformation and conspiracy theories, they have to take themselves down at the same time. I thought of a funny joke. Did you you so we were just talking about the previous segment like what are white people good at and then you mentioned some people said oppression yeah but you see they only steal that from china right so i was i'm looking we're looking at the story and

i'm like i'm thinking about these like these these democrats trying to get news banned and i'm like man maybe they really are good at oppressing wait a. What they're doing is a ripoff of what China already did. And then I thought it's another funny joke, because then the other stereotype about white people that you get from the progressives is that they steal culture. So maybe we're right now the Democrats are really good at stealing the authoritarianism from these despotic nations. Hey, there you go. Hey, it's an idea.

That is an idea. I mean, look, i think china was very good at banning basically all media that didn't agree with the government so they're like right ahead of us you know they are i'm sorry just these white progressives are just not good at oppression no they're trying though is this cultural appropriation then are they appropriating yes yeah i mean culturally oh oh they should stop they should it is i'm sorry it is racist for them to try and shut down opinions of those they don't like exactly because they're just ripping off china there you go take note liberals take note what is this what is this

look ian stroking your beard i'm taking it all in there's a lot look this is uh uh i wonder to what degree this is a violation of the First Amendment. What, trying to shut down all the news channels? Well, what these Democrats are doing, they're agents of government, and they're going and trying to get political views taken off. They're not going to these channels. They're literally going to the providers and saying, you know, why are you still hosting them, this misinformation, these lies? I mean, this is the kind of stuff that makes me pessimistic it makes me feel like we're headed towards absurdity it's like you've got authoritarianism they don't they're doing too much these these politicians it's if you're driving down the road on a freeway you don't

need to be turning left and right and it's like we got people in jobs that don't need to be there anymore or something they don't need to be there anymore or something they don't need to change it you know what you like you've talked about before ian that like maybe we don't need these politicians anymore you mentioned like less politicians and like different branches stuff like that i'm wondering if you know why do they make new laws you know what i mean they're constantly making new laws why do they get rid of old ones well that's the thing is like so with this whole lockdown stuff and this is totally on the side but it it goes to what you said i always think like governments are really good at stomping on your freedoms how often do

they give them back so it's like when when they legislate it's like you said like for every and i think that was trump's thing you know for every how many laws were passed you know however many were repealed and i think that or you know all this red tape was cut and i think that you're right like they're always passing new laws but it's like for what what are you doing actually day to day that is necessary that needs to be done it's more regulation most of the time taking your guns away yes they're getting there they're trying so they did it in australia oh they didn't and then after they took away the firearms in australia the australian government locked down and clamped down on its citizenry uh more than almost any government out there especially when it came to

the covid restrictions and it was kind of it still is absurd to see what they're able to get away with over there oh it's terrible like i don't know so aussies and i i think have just a fundamental disagreement some aussies and i have a fundamental disagreement when it comes to this this is part of why i left because my frustration was like i'm watching america which mind you i know that a lot of americans think that america is just rightly screwed right now to some extent maybe but you still have a constitution and a bill of rights and a bunch of stuff that protects you australians not so much we don't have freedom of. That's an implied thing in our constitution. We don't have a bill of rights. We have five rights in our constitution and there are things like freedom

of religion and you can move between states and things like that. So watching what was going down with all the lockdown stuff, having no guns, yada, yada, yada. It was honestly really, I'm here in the US and I and i'm thinking i'm so lucky to live in a country where i can actually just basically be like you know what nah and do what i want i think that that's great even living in texas you can just buy a billion guns in australia there's people who organized protests on facebook and literally had police officers break down their front door yep when they were having dinners with their family with children there and arrested and took them away from their children for organizing a protest oh yeah yeah that was

when there was a pregnant girl that's when i believe you're talking about yeah there's a number of them yeah yeah um it's funny because one of my very good friends back home his name is avi and he's a journalist for rebel news um he was he's been arrested several times now even though he has press credentials from the government to be you know at these protests and things and he has been arrested he's been chucked in the back of the divvy van or the the police van thingy um and they they really target the journalists now they arrested one i think it was two or three days ago they arrested another young journalist and her photographer from the herald sun which is

another melbourne newspaper and the thing that really distresses me watching this like again from a country where i can basically do a lot of things that i can't do back home is they just snap their fingers and go okay we're having another lockdown now five day lockdown everyone like stay in your home can't go outside can't do this can't do that and australians just go okay yes daddy government yes yes yes i'll do the thing okay yep and i it makes me want to throw up because I think, where is your sense of freedom? Where's your sense of self-preservation? It's not, I mean, they think that the government will answer

all of their hopes and dreams and questions, when in reality, the government is actually just stomping on you. The first 15 days, we all basically agreed. Exactly, everyone was on board. 15 days, two weeks, slow the spread. Yeah, and we were all like, yeah, that makes sense. But then when they extended it, we still agreed. like all right let's let's let's slow this thing down we're all in this together right and then after i think the first year like where we're

at now everyone's kind of like dude come on man yeah look at look you look at we're looking at global food shortages we're looking at massive poverty and it it feels like they're just destroying everything on purpose because they don't care they don't care that lives are being ruined they don't care how many politicians took a pay like had a decrease in pay during this time how many politicians didn't get paid i think they all got paid you know know, the premier of, in Victoria, so where I'm from, the premier of my home state gave himself a pay raise during the pandemic after he locked down Victorians for the longest period, I'm pretty sure, in the entire world.

And then this, I want to call him the C word, but I'm not going to say it. But then he goes and gives himself, and I nearly slipped out. I was like, oh, Sydney. He goes and gives himself a pay raise. How many of these people, and even in the US, how many of them have taken a pay cut? How many of them have not gotten paid? Andrew Cuomo got a raise. He's working very

hard for these people. He deserves more money. Daily press conferences, lying to you, giving you his little smile. He's a sociopath. No, no, no. They're not lies. They're comforting distortions. He's trying to just avert panic and make everyone feel good oh and it does they feel really you know what the thing is if you value security more than freedom

i don't know what to tell you and it's not misinformation it's comfortable news comfortable comfort this guy is that you guys should go look him up you'll have a field day especially tim yeah we uh i i'm glad i don't live in aust in Australia because where is it like Victoria? Is that the it's a call a state or is it a province or what is it? State? Yeah, we have states and territories. Yeah. And that's where they basically put everybody in like home jail, home arrest or whatever. Yeah, basically. Yeah. I mean, like, again, Aussies, look, I love Australians, but sometimes, you know, they get on me and they're like, you're so mean. Why are you so mean about Australia? And I'm like, I don't know, because you've got no freedom.

Like, I don't know. So wait, you're half American, though, right? Yeah. So that's that's the thing. You're a day walker. You understand that. It seems like you've got the best. You inherited the best of both sides, like the ability to fight giant tarantulas and

like kangaroos while understanding the importance of freedom. Yeah, exactly. That's the craziest thing to me is that you could have Australia, which is the stereotypical death trap country of, like, giant spiders and birds. I watched this video where there's a super jacked kangaroo banging on some guy's window. You saw that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he's like, what's... And this Australian guy I knew said, like, they could gut you. They could, like, their huge claws slash you. I'm like, how do you grow up in a place where I watched one video where these people are drinking on an outdoor patio and a kangaroo just like stomps through? But you know what? Maybe that's actually what it is. They're scared of everything.

And so when the government comes in, they're like, please help us from the giant mean monsters. And so they hide. They hide. You know, look, I grew up in the country. So we're always around roos and stuff. They are very aggressive. People need to understand. Don't chase them.

Do not corner them. You're going to get your little face ripped off. They've got these little creepy- They're ripped, right? You see them like flex? Oh, yeah. They are. They're jacked. I think it's bigger than this, Tim.

I think it's the queen. She has to be responsible for our- You're right, Luke. I keep thinking about this. Luke, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, toughest, strictest lockdowns, all of them colonies of the queen. It's all the Commonwealth stuff, isn, toughest, strictest lockdowns, all of them. Colonies of the Queen. It's all the Commonwealth stuff, isn't it? No, I mean, that's actually, I wonder,

because I know that, I don't actually don't, that was not a nonsensical sentence. You also have to look at New Zealand too, because they have been like, I love it when people are like, New Zealand's dealing with this so well. New Zealand's an island in the middle of the Pacific with nothing around it except

other oceans. And a very small population. A tiny population. Isn't it 2,000 miles from Australia? I don't know in terms of proximity. It's like a three-hour plane ride to get to New Zealand. Yeah, that sounds like about 2,000 miles. Well, if you look at the United Kingdom, I mean, even their lockdowns are absolutely

absurd and very oddly... They make no sense. Yeah, it doesn't make many sense on many different levels because if you look at the numbers you compare it to sweden um the numbers are going down the same way they're even going down even more according to some estimates in sweden where the lockdowns were restricted by and large not fully but by and large compared to the united kingdom that fully locked down and course, has their police officers sending out notices that they will no longer be responding to burglaries, but they spent taxpayer money on billboard buses telling you that being offensive is a criminal offense. Oh, you know, the UK is just, oh God, it's beautiful.

It's again, it's one of these beautiful prisons. It's Australia is a beautiful prison. Aussies don't yell at me for saying that. you this is a bit of a prison but buddy you know gulag i think it's a better uk yeah they're beautiful but they're prisons because like you know these are countries that arrest people not australia so much they do it a little bit but not that much but they arrest people for things they post online and it's like it's ridiculous oh my god 2 583.3 miles new zealand to australia i just think that's relevant because people think australia new zealand are very close to each other no there

it's a yeah it's super far away yeah definitely sizable and i think new zealand has like four million people five million i think five million yeah yeah when i went to new zealand they asked me why i was there and i was going there to interview this guy gareth morgan and they all knew who he was so when i was at like the the immigration checkpoint they were like what you here for i'm like i'm here with you know vice magazine we're going to interview this guy and they're like who is it and i was like his name's gareth morgan oh i know him and i was like you're doing the like there's not that many people in this country man it's like everybody knows if someone here is famous everybody knows who it is i was expecting

you to do a an accent it sounded like you were going there. I was gearing up. I was like, oh, Tim. I almost did. I almost went for it. Well, you know, I used to do a really good New Zealand accent, but I've got to hear it first, and it's been too long, so I wouldn't get it. I'm unable to help you. You dipped your toes in. I dipped my toes in a little bit. You have a Day Walker accent.

My accent is just an absolute mess. Honestly, it depends who I'm around to, because if I'm around a bunch of yanks, I feel like my accent gets much more American. Yanks. When I'm around other, yeah, yanks. You guys are yanks, all of you. Like, no matter where you're from, you're all yanks. But when I talk to, like, you know, if I call home and I'm talking to, like, my dad, who is very Australian.

He's from Perth. So his accent is just, like, off the planet. But if I, like, call home or something, people are like, oh, you're using your own terminology again i'm like yeah my accent sucks it's don't ask i don't know did you live in the u.s for a long forever no no no i'm just you know it's funny when people are like so um are you putting this on i'm like yeah i'm trying to do both accents badly that's it yeah you got it your mom was american my mom's american okay but moved over there yeah fell in love fell in love with my dad are you dual citizenship yep um so i mean i got questions about the british monarchy growing up were you like were you were you aware that you

lived under the rule of a queen she said she was the head of state yeah she's our head but it's very like subversive you don't know you're kind of led to believe that you live in a free state. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I became aware of the fact that, because obviously like when you're at school, you learn about Aussie history. You don't learn about British history. You learn about Aussie history. You learn about Federation or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, like when the first fleet landed in Australia and colonized, yada, yada.

We learn about all of that um i didn't know probably until i was actually maybe in my late teens that we weren't a republic because i remember we studied stuff at school and i was like oh well you know i would probably vote to have us be a republic and i had friends who were like nope i want to be you know we need the monarchy still and that's a whole that's actually a whole argument is a lot of conservatives in australia are like we need to still be part of you know or at least have the monarchy as like our head of state so to speak even though it's the queen we she gives royal assent on all of our legislation that gets passed so i mean it's it's more of a

ceremonial thing but it's still active i guess like she controls the military and so is she the one ordering these lockdowns no but she's not saying no to them. She's assenting to them. What if there's like a secret conspiracy where the queen actually is giving instructions to her subjects? And she's actually controlling New Zealand and Australia. Well, I think it's funny to call it a conspiracy when she's literally the queen. The monarch. The head of state for these countries. The sole God-given leader of the country. By divine providence.

She is queen of the britons you want to talk about corrupt institutions that have ties to children that do bad i can't even say it the royal family my goodness gracious there's so many deep down the

rabbit holes that you could go down there not just them i heard rabbit hole they're bad yeah should we rabbit speaking rabbit hole yeah so uh what an excellent segue luke that

was perfect timing my friends we have to talk about this. I'm ashamed of each and every one of you. Oh. Luke, Ian, Sydney, Lydia. Yeah. Critical thinking? What were you thinking?

The New York Times says. Critically. Critical thinking. Hold on. I'm going to read this for you. This is a quote from the New York Times. No. Critical thinking, as we're taught to do it, isn't helping in the fight against misinformation.

Wait, wait. Check out this first line. All right. For an academic, Michael Caulfield has an odd request. Stop overthinking what you see online. Sit down. Shut up. Believe what you're told and move on. Good, sir.

The New York Times. This is what they say. Mr. Caulfield, the digital literacy expert at Washington State, knows all too well. In Vancouver, mind you. Knows all too well at this very moment, more people are fighting for the opportunity to lie to you than perhaps any other point in human history. Misinformation, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, we get it.

Quote, we're taught that in order to protect ourselves from bad information, we need to deeply engage with the stuff that washes up in front of us. Mr. Caulfield told me recently, he suggested that the dominant mode of media literacy, if kids get taught any at all, and that's a good point, is that, quote, you'll get imperfect information and then use reasoning to fix that somehow. But in reality, that strategy can completely backfire. In other words, resist the lure of rabbit holes, in part, by reimagining media literacy for the internet hellscape we occupy. Let me tell you what's really being said here, because I can translate for all of you. They don't want you investigating the news.

They don't want you listening to conversations like this. You want to know how easy it is? I'll tell you guys all this. How do you know who's actually lying and who's telling the truth? The person who's telling you the truth tells you to listen to the ideas of other people and come to your own conclusion to be a free, sovereign individual. Why? I don't want power over you. I don't want to own your life or rule your life or make you do anything for me. I want you to find what's best for you. That empowers other people. The people who would tell

you, don't think critically. Don't investigate these things. Don't watch these other people. The people who would tell you, don't think critically. Don't investigate these things. Don't watch these other channels. They do want things from you. They want to manipulate. They want to control you. They want you for a purpose. I don't care what you do. I don't care if you want to go home, dress up like a banana and juggle bananas. I don't care if you want to dress up like a clown and go to a clown party. That's your thing. You do your thing. Anybody telling you not to do what you want to do to be free so long as you're not hurting others and who would lie to you and tell you not to listen to others or would censor opinions or my stars and garters new york times saying don't think critically well these people are manipulating what the way they phrase that critical thinking

as we're taught so maybe what they're implying is we're not being taught proper critical thinking skills and i can kind of identify what maybe he's saying is that there's a propensity when you're reading something to just disbelieve it like you don't want to believe everything you see obviously but you don't want to necessarily disbelieve it either so to rebuff ideas and to become so you know contrastual just as a reflex is also a problem and maybe that's what a lot of people are doing. It's a fair point to say, don't go down the rabbit hole, because then people become flat earthers and other weird stuff. But then saying critical thinking as we're taught. No, no, no, look, I mean, I get the point for sure.

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. What they're really saying is actually think critically. They're not saying that. The opening line was, don't overthink things. So what? I opened the newspaper and it says x just happened the the an american destroyer was attacked in the gulf of tonkin don't overthink it it just happened except it is reality and then you know the vietnam war starts and then we find out later

it didn't really happen and you know and maybe we should have overthought that i feel like when you're at university there's like a big thing where you are taught not well to think critically. I don't know if that was, you know, anyone else's experience, but that was definitely mine. And I feel like maybe that I don't think that's what The New York Times is saying, just by the way. Like, I definitely think this is them being like, don't look too deeply into things, because then you might start questioning narratives that you're not supposed to question. But certainly. Sorry. How are you taught critically?

Like, what was I just don't feel like we were. I feel like it was one of those things where, like, when at school, so my first degree was I studied criminology and then my second, my master was in journalism because, you know, here I am sort of doing that. But I feel like there wasn't a huge emphasis on actually digging deeper into things. It was sort of like accept this on the surface and maybe look a little bit into it. Here are the sources, the approved sources that were okay with you looking at. Don't go beyond these. Or if you do look at these, these and these and these, because these are, you know, supplementary readings. But it wasn't like go and do your own research and then write me something new and impressive. That wasn't the emphasis. And I feel like that's what critical

thinking is. Taking a prompt or an idea or whatever, reading something about it, going, okay, and then looking deeper and then going down this hole and going over here and basically building an idea of something from multiple angles and sources and coming to your own conclusions. We're not taught to do that. I wasn't taught to do that at school, at university. And I feel like a lot of young people coming out of that system probably don't have the skills that they should when it comes to thinking more in depth about things. I'm not saying that everyone has to be conservative or has to solely go to conservative sources and that's all they can read and that's the only place that's going to give

them true and accurate information. No. Look at everything across the board and then derive your conclusion. Yeah, times have changed in the last 20 years, especially with the internet, because now looking at everything is impossible. There's so much information relative to 1996 when I was in school. You can more easily find the sources. So if someone makes a claim and you can't verify the source, you can question it and hold it in doubt. We used to trust it more. When the New York Times would come out and say an anonymous source told us this, people

would be like, I guess it's true because what else are we going to do about it? Now we can actually be like, hold on, let me look into that. But here's the dangerous thing about what the New York Times is doing. They hold themselves to a special standard. That's basically it. In the article, they say, you know, here's some four principles of what you should do when you encounter, you know, potential disinformation or whatever. They say, one, stop.

Two, investigate the source. Three, find better coverage. Four, trace claims, quotes, and media to the original context, otherwise known as SIFT. Here's a quote. Is Robert F. Kennedy Jr. the best unbiased source on information about a vaccine? I'd argue no. And that's good enough to know. We should probably just move on, he said. And I'd like to edit in a little sentence while completely ignoring Bill Gates is not a scientist nor a doctor. You see the point? When Bill Gates comes out, they say, oh, it's great. Bill Gates has a plan. And here's what he's saying. Here's

his advice. And the New York Times says, well, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was an anti-vaxxer, so don't trust him. They apply the standard of we must not overthink things and must analyze only when it's the narrative they want. So a good example is how Wikipedia works, for example. I can come out and say something like, I am in favor of a universal health care system that also has private health insurance, much like most of the developed world. I am not in favor of abolishing private insurance. And I was a big fan of Bernie Sanders in 2016. And they'll say, Tim Pool is not a good source on what he actually believes, even when he says it. But then I can come out and say something like, I am pro 2A. And they'll write, Tim Pool says he is full pro 2A. If it is a right wing position, they'll say, well, he said

it. So it's true. If it's a left wing position, they'll say, nope, nope, he's not a good source of this information. So Tim Pool can't be left wing. They use whatever narrative they want. They use the rules only when it best suits them. Don't think critically, they say, unless, of course, it's negative, you know, something negative against our opponents, in which case you must think critically and sift and go through the sources. That's the name of the game, I suppose. This is how the media sucks, though. This is why the media is I just I'm going to start. But I mean. This is why the media sucks, though. This is why the media is, I just, I'm not even going to start. But, I mean, this is why the mainstream is. Oh, please, start.

This is just why the mainstream media really gets under my skin, because you're right. And I think a lot of conservatives, obviously, like being that, that's the space that I occupy a lot of the time is that the right wing is just as bad when it comes to spinning things or hand cherry picking information and creating particular narratives around things where they're not quite telling the truth. For example, I mean, like, even that Coke thing, and I'm not defending what Coke did at all. I think it that's gross. But I mean, they put out a statement that basically said, Hey, you know, this is not actually the sole focus of our curriculum. It was just part I know, and you're making a face at me, but I'm just saying like, there's that caveat to the story

that I think they're buttholes for what they did. And I think it's disgusting. And I, you know, like I said, I put that in the video I made. I'm trying not to swear at Tim. It's so hard for me to try to find out. Save it for the after show. But it's, you know,

so my point here is that you're allowed to be like, Coke are a bunch of buttholes. And I think that they suck. You know, what they did was shitty. And sorry. I was trying to avoid it. I was trying to.

You can't help it. It was just trying to get out. What they did was yucky and we don't like it. And, you know, whatever. But then you caveat and you go, but this is also what they said. Because then it's a more, you know, you're not being dishonest. There's no twist there. Who's being dishonest about dishonest i'm not saying anyone was being dishonest but i'm saying that in this context i'll tell you i'll tell you uh more information is better in

my opinion i took issue with the wind wind turbine story in texas because all the conservatives like not all of them but all of these conservatives are coming out and saying the wind turbines froze and it shut down the grid and it caused all the damage. And in reality, also gas lines were freezing and there was a bunch of other issues. But it does seem because we did have on one fellow was an energy expert who basically said if it wasn't for the wind turbines going down, the demand for gas wouldn't have skyrocketed, causing this domino effect, essentially. But to come out and say that it was the sole reason for the crisis was not completely true. So you have AOC coming out and saying, no, it's the problem of the gas lines.

We need a Green New Deal. And many on the right saying, it's the wind turbines. And I'm like, the reality is they didn't winterize the wind turbines. There are wind turbines in Antarctica, and they work because it doesn't snow. So in Texas, they needed to better winterize them and prepare for this. And it seems like they weren't prepared for a winter storm, even though it happened in 2011. So it's not entirely. Yes, it's fair to say that when the wind turbines froze up, it caused a cascade effect. Texas could have prepared. Now, I hear

them saying that Joe Biden denied some emergency relief. So it's always much more complicated than anything. But I will tell you this, for the most part, conservatives know what the left is thinking. And when they write about it, they don't need to snub details. They might give you their biased version of it. Sure. But the left outright just manipulates. Oh, I'm not saying that conservatives like lie in the same way that the left does.

Definitely not. But they definitely they still spin things. I still see things and I go, I know for a fact that what is written in this article is part of the story and there's a whole other element to this that if they just added a single sentence acknowledging that other part of it it would be a more holistic better well-rounded story that people could read and go okay i now at least know basically more or less the full details of it. I'm not saying that, I mean, the left just make crap up. That's the thing that, I'm headbutting microphones here. That's the thing that annoys me so much is they just make things up. But I don't know,

I hate the media in general, like across the board, just because of this, the dishonesty and the twisting of information. I got a correction. And I'm actually really happy about this. So Pointer did i did a segment on this on my timcast news channel so i i tweeted something very snarky i said time magazine just came out and said that a cabal rigged the election i'm sorry they said they didn't rig the election they fortified it by changing the rules and the laws and manipulating the flow of information. It was just snarky, but I made no declaration in this. Time magazine said this.

And then I said, I'm sorry, they didn't say it was rigged because I was trying to be silly. So Pointer writes an article and they said a controversial YouTuber, Tim Pool, published a post which claimed or which said the election was rigged. You see how they use weasel words to get through that? Because but the tweet did not say that. In fact, the tweet said it isn't rigged. It's fortified. So they use that as a manipulation. Here's the best part.

So this one outlet, I'm not going to name because they did me the solid. They apologized, corrected immediately and fixed the context in full, which did something amazing in the full context from this pointer article. It says Tim Pool's post was wrong it claimed the election was rigged i never said that i never said the election was rigged i never said trump really won i've long said it's over biden won and i got so many trump supporters who were mad at me for it for a long time smack talking me saying he's not he's you know he's going against trump whatever so they put this claim out there. They then got mad because what happened was Birdwatch,

Twitter's independent user fact-checking system, determined that my tweet was in fact correct. Not misleading, it said. And all the responses were people said, Tim Pool is just referencing a Time Magazine article. He's citing a Time Magazine article. So another outlet sees the Pointer article and rewrites it because this is what news outlets do.

It's called churnalism. Churn. Like they just see a story and rewrite it. In this, the context evolved once more. Pointer wrote in a post from controversial YouTuber that stated the election was rigged. They didn't say I said it. They said the post stated it. So it's clever weasel words.

Well, this next outlet said, Tim Poole, who wrote The Electron, was rigged. I reached out to the writer and the manager for the company. And I said, you know, I humbly request a retraction. This is not correct. I said that it wasn't rigged, that it was fortified. I was just referencing a Time Magazine article. So in this new article, this is really amazing. They included my tweet, and they removed the part where it said who wrote Tim Pool, who wrote The Election Was Rigged and said in a tweet from Tim Pool, who cited a Time magazine article claiming that a cabal of wealthy elites were fortifying the election by changing rules

and controlling the flow of information. Twitter flagged it as misleading. And with that simple correction, a legitimate correction. So my thanks to the writer on that. That was very honorable. And this guy is particularly lefty. It changed the entire context of the article. Before the article was saying,

Tim Pool lied and Twitter said it was real news by fixing the context of my tweet. It says, Tim Pool was correct. The users correctly identified this. And Pointer is angry about it. So the article has now become the premier fact-checking organization for Facebook. Pointer is outraged that I made a factual tweet. That was just a snarky statement.

That users flagged it as not misleading and made them mad because they lost control of the narrative to a bunch of random Twitter users. So with that correction, I am actually really, really happy. And I'm not entirely hopeful that will always be the case. But that's good news. Sounds like the dude from the second article. Who's the company? The second? I didn't name them.

Actually went and read the time magazine article after you requested the retraction and then was like whoa this is just i'm it just seems like it i don't know if that's actually what happened the great the crazy thing about how the media works whoa you gotta read this time article by the way that have you read that article yeah yeah i did well so yeah there's a trick that i do on Twitter where I make statements that are vague. And I got to admit, I learned this from Michael Malice. Totally legit. Like, I love his tweets when he would respond to Trump saying, we don't deserve him.

And you're like, you don't know if it's saying it's good or bad. I love it. It's brilliant. And so I started making tweets where I would just try to avoid a hard, direct, partisan opinion. The opinion would be a neutral, positive, or negative opinion. And then you can see in the responses from people what they think of you. So that tweet, for instance, where I said Time Magazine said the election was rigged. I'm sorry, they didn't say it was rigged. Was I insulting Time Magazine?

Or was I angry with Time for lying? Or was I angry with the cabal of wealthy elites? Truth be told, both, to be honest. But I know, to be precise, with my language. So what's interesting is this guy from Pointer, the Pointer Institute, they decide who gets to be a fact checker for Facebook. He read my tweet and said, oh, that controversial Tim Pool claiming the election's rigged. The other guy just wrote what the guy said. But when he actually read the tweet, he took it at face value. Tim Pool is referencing Time magazine. That's it.

That's fact. My question is, if someone is to change the rules of an election, is that not rigging the election? Well, I'm not. I didn't say that. Tim's not making a statement. He's just being neutral. Off the record. He's just trying to upset everyone.

Even though we're on the record right now the the point is my issue is i'm not going to come out and say the election is rigged it's not and fortified time magazine said all right right time magazine but then i said they said it wasn't rigged because i was just being snarky time magazine literally said it wasn't rigging the election it was fortifying it the point i made in my video was how would you define rigging something if let's say you know let's say ian and luke were going to race and then i tied luke's shoes shoelaces together oh see i was gonna say we'll just hobble one of you but you went much nicer road oh my god well hobbling like break a leg okay i think i think hobbling is a reference to tying a rope to a donkey's legs yeah i think so no i thought hobbling is where you get like i watched a movie where this woman just went and just like smashed

this guy's um ankles together yeah that sounds horrible all right with a mallet what film was that oh my god these are on the island let me put it this way there's a reason why we're all related to convicts the rule changes uh benefited everybody it was make it easier to vote but we know that democrats are more likely to vote by mail so while the rule change would have benefited both sides democrats are more likely to vote so if luke and i were about to race and i was like ah let's race on one of those horizontal elevator things that at the airports where the ground is moving forward on it and we run. Am I rigging the race?

It would be more like if you said... Yes, because I'm changing the physics of the race. If you said this, let's say there's a dude who's allergic to peanuts and you were like, we're going to race, but I think it's fair

that we give everyone a big jar of peanut butter for energy. Well, one guy you know, peanut butter is normally good your opponent can't eat it so you are saying no no we're giving peanut butter to everyone plus it's not changing the rules today for us they did it covertly whatever they did they did covertly which is well if we knew at a time no no that's they were gonna be that's the fault of the media they they like in georgia in pennsylvania where these rule changes happened it was publicly

known but you rely on a national media to come out and tell you what was happening so the issue was that the the question of rigging is not about it's it's not necessarily about whether or not fraud occurred because that i don't think i don't think that's an issue here the bigger issue is were the changes constitutional and uh and that's basically it the other big news in that regard is that supreme court today said no clarence thomas yeah clarence thomas was awesome what did he say so well so uh i'll let tim take this one the pennsylvania pennsylvania has been doing it's because we because i've i've covered this so much uh and we had sean pernell on the show several times pennsylvania sued arguing that the mail-in voting law was unconstitutional because their

constitution in pa state says absentee ballots must be for this reason. And then they created universal mail-in voting, which basically negated absentee voting. The lower court said, you are correct and will likely win on the merits. And then it got, I think it got appealed to the state Supreme Court. The state Supreme Court said, you're too late. The merits don't matter. This bill was passed in fall of 2019. Therefore, it's done. So they filed an appeal at the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court today said it's a moot point. Trump's not going to be president. So we

refuse to hear this. Clarence Thomas got angry and he said he basically said, if we wouldn't hear the case before the election and now we won't hear the case after the election we have not solved the problem of breaking the rules in the election and it is not a moot point and he was he was pissed he dissented amazing he was the only one yeah join him on the show justice yes that would be incredible i would love to have him. He's amazing. Yeah, he's a busy guy. Yeah, he's a busy guy. That'd be awesome. He's a rad dude.

Anyway, the point is... Wasn't he the one that Biden actually gunned for a couple years ago? Was that him? Like in the 90s? Yeah, yeah. During his hearings when he was appointed, he had to go through the Senate hearings. And yeah, Biden went after him brutally. Biden really went for him.

Yeah, awfully. Yeah, so I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if that guy's like, well, Biden, I'm not your biggest fan. This is the question of rigging, right? Rigging is typically understood to mean that you are setting up a system to favor one participant or one competitor or something like that. And it doesn't necessarily mean cheating, although it's kind of considered to be a cheater kind of move. You know what I mean? I thought rigging was where you're setting something up to ensure that one person wins or comes out victorious

or whatever, so to the detriment of other people. I don't even think that. I think if you rig a system, you're just changing the way the system works. Yeah, that's actually a good point. Just setting up the rig. Maybe someone should Google what rigging means so that we can get an actual definition.

Well, there's two different ways to look at it you can rig something and that means literally to just make something do a thing you want and then rigging a competition or a game means to ensure a favorable outcome typically or to ensure an outcome period okay my understanding was the middle of those three i always thought that was it was just where basically you were ensuring that one person wins or whatever whatever the context is the official uh definition of rig the first one is make a sailing ship or boat ready for sailing by providing yes that's not what we're just preparing a boat for for readiness um noted that's all that's the verb manage or conduct something fraudulently so as to produce a result or situation that is advantageous to a particular person where'd you get that cause google cause an

artificial rise or fall in prices so i think it's fair to say that they weren't saying it was rigged because the time magazine article did not imply fraud and that's why i was very careful my words that they didn't say it was rigged it was fortified but i think to a certain degree, colloquial understanding is if you've changed the voting laws outside of the state legislature in violation of the Elector's Clause of the Constitution, a lot of people will view that as fraudulent, not as a voter fraud or election fraud or anything, but as unconstitutional actions that violate the supreme law of the land, our constitutions. So it's an interesting legal argument. Some people might argue.

There was one comment on my tweet where they said, could be misleading because some may view this as clearly not rigging, just protecting election integrity, while others may claim that these were outside the electors clause and thus a violation. And so until it's adjudicated, it could go either way. Now, that's a fair point. So the question of whether or not this Time magazine is saying the election was rigged is an opinion on the definition of a word semantics but i tell you this the tribalists will take whatever they can get right the trump supporters are going to say no that clearly means it was rigged and the and the biden people and the anti-trump people

are going to say he won fair and square they were just protecting voter integrity what i'm taking from this entire conversation besides your point about the correction that was made is that that second article the way that that person structured what they were saying about what you said and time and everything is how writers should go about writing articles you should give all the context well you should that was really important because adding in that your response was to the time article was crucial in people understanding actually what was said and who said it and when and why and how and whatever else and this is what journalists do the pointer

or fail to do rather because they don't do that that often kind of on purpose yeah manipulation it's messed so listen the way that pointer wrote my wrote this opening sentence was crafted in a legal way so i personally did not say the election was rigged. What they wrote was in a post from controversial YouTuber Tim Pool, comma, that stated the election was rigged. So they said in a post and the post said. So now they can make an argument that the post has the words the election was rigged and therefore it must be, you know, our statement is a fact.

I still think there's grounds for a false statement of fact because the Post actually says they didn't rig it. The full Post literally says they didn't rig it. But you can see how they're trying to skirt around the truth in such a way. The full context, if someone was actually reading it, they would say Tim Pool made a reference to a Time magazine article about a cabal of wealthy elites. What was his intentions? We don't know.

We can't read his mind. Pointer Institute cut all the context out. They cut out the context of the Time Magazine article itself. They said the actual article was just talking about protecting voter integrity, but that was left out of the tweet. I'm like, no, it wasn't. I quite literally said they were fortifying the election by changing the rules. That's a quote from the article.

You can read the full article. I couldn't fit it into a tweet. Journalists do this on purpose. They misshape sentences. They manipulate sentences. They frame things in such a way to make you believe something that may or may not be true. I just had this. It's so crazy that we live in a world where you can send out a tweet, where you can just type a paragraph that gets so much traction and human focus and can alter the dialogue of the world, of the earth in like, for months.

I got an idea. I'm going to buy a boat and I'm going to name it The Election. And then Ian... We'll rig it together. We'll rig it together. And then you can tweet. Ian can tweet. I can personally state as a statement of fact that i rigged the election and then i'm gonna steal it yeah do it no no but think about

how funny it would be if you came out on twitter and you were like i can't confirm i rigged the election and tim pool was involved yeah yeah and then people are gonna be like whoa he's saying it then you'll show a picture of the election on it luke stole the election see that's that's awesome you gotta call it the election call the boat the election the election yeah the election the 2020 election that's the name of the boat okay and then when and then when they write that you were that you posted fake news or whatever or you can say that i know for a fact that the election got rigged and they'll be like aha see he's lying you then post a picture of the boat and be like it is a true statement at the very least we got a photoshop take it to court no but a the boat and be like, it is a true statement. At the very least, we got to Photoshop it.

Take it to court. No, but a judge is going to be like, get out of here. You know what you did. Yeah, my brother once took a picture of himself holding a big bundle of sticks

and he says, hey, look at this huge... Oh my gosh. Because he was making a point about the use of words and everything. I don't know if he ever actually... I think he posted it on Twitter.

I'm not entirely sure. Are you allowed to say that word in that context, though? Nope. Or is it always offensive? No, because the computers don't know. This is actually i think he posted on twitter i'm not sure are you allowed to say that word in that context though no or is it always offensive no because the computers don't know this is so i'll tell you uh keemstar had this happen to him oh yeah where he said there's there's a type of job i guess you call it the letter e dash girl i spaced that out perfectly. I spaced that out on purpose. Because they. The YouTube algorithm.

Thought that word. When he said it. Was actually the N word. And so in his subtitles. It shows. A version of the N word. And he got demonetized because of it. And he was like. I didn't say that word.

He said E-girl. how did they but how it's youtube ai artificial intelligence that picks it up and then transcribes it that word starts with a vowel so you would say an oh yeah oh and announce and it depends how you pronounce it i mean youtube's saying it really fast yeah youtube's ai just took down a chess player for having white players and black players. Mentioning it too many times. But they did that to him before, I'm pretty sure. It's not the first time it's happened. Wasn't it because also he was

using terms to like threat and white and black? But that's normal. That's normal. It's chess. Christ, a while back in Australian, on an Australian network, a radio network, someone suggested that, is it racist because white pieces move first in chess? Definitely. They've long said yes.

Is that like an ancient Moorish European conflict? Surely there's a reason why? I don't think there's any real thought behind the colors, especially because the game was being played among Europeans. It was literally just the different color pieces. well but no but red and green I think sometimes I'm saying before we ever seen this just before you know how I'm the dumbest smart person smartest dumb person I know you could just say you know the black pieces go first if you want to. But they decided to make it racist.

The queen's on her own color. Is that like a gender thing? What about nobility? The queen is powerful. It's classist. Chess is classist. It's like a tummy-cheek statement. Sacrifice the pawn.

The woman is the power behind the man. I think that's what that means. So you're saying it's matriarchal then. Chess is then matriarchal. Society is matriarchal. I got the matriarchal society is beautiful i got it let's make all of the pieces puns oh yeah perfect boom checkers there you go communism well it would still be different from checkers but communism yep there you go those socialists finally get what they want everything is equal the commies get what they want everything is equal

and no one has any gender and everything is just the same perfect that's you know it's really funny you ever watch the Fairly Odd Parents? Yes. Oh, I love that show. Have you seen the episode where I think he wished everybody was the same so that nobody would be bullied? And then everyone was a gray blob, but they still found a way to bully people. Like, even though they were all now gray blobs.

And it was like a really amazing point for like a kids show to tell people that no matter what you do, people will still find a way to be nasty and mean to you and now here we are in this world where apparently nobody got the message and they're like everybody should be genderless and shaved heads like it oh you know it's like that south park episode where the future people come and they're all bald olive colored skin people who speak a mix of every language the only thing that south park got wrong was that oh no no they got this right too the genders were identical yeah the people all looked the exact same that's really interesting yeah but it won't stop oppression because some people sleep on the top bunk and some people sleep on the bottom bunk and gravity like if you spill your cup and the

guys down below you so you your highness is going to be all you know have the advantage your highness no but that's why you just sleep in the pod yeah i need the all right all right let's uh let's jump to super chats everybody if you have not already send us your super chats i'll try to read as many as i can but also smash that like button subscribe to the notification bell and check out timcast.com for exclusive members only content and uh you know when we have issues with with full episodes we will upload them exclusively to the website because look a lot of people don't like hearing it but YouTube has already given us a warning on one of our episodes and if we get another strike for any reason

that means the show's off for a whole week and then we'll if that happened we'd still do the show we just stream it somewhere else but that's still really bad and we want to avoid that that also means if there are things we want to talk about it's going to be at timcast.com because we're just trying to make sure we're navigating everything properly i don't want to sacrifice the entire channel and my ability to produce content because it would shut down my other channels as well because one person said

something and we can move it over or something like that so that keep that in mind we're doing our best but uh smash the like button let's read some of these super chats padre mortalis says tim used gorilla glue on his beanie confirmed yep okay that is not confirmed you said deplorable pirate captain gunbeard says a question for progressives if only white people can be oppressive is it immoral for a person of color to own white slaves oh it's interesting about uh so the the isn't there like a core i don't know exactly know this the correlation but slav and slave root word yeah yeah and robot as well who do you know anything about the history of like who enslaved the slavs was it that was it the tur, like the Ottoman Empire? I don't know, but I'm taking the privilege of knowing so. But again, Europe is just a whole bloody territory of conquerors and conquest.

You look at what Julius Caesar did to the Celtics. My goodness. I mean, history is pretty much people stabbing each other and killing each other when you look at it at the context of Europe. And then in Roman times times slaves were pretty much uh money they were valued and during big conquests they would make sure to keep people alive to sell them later because that was pretty much a currency so slaves and slavic people were their own kind of currency uh the celts uh you know were often traded by the romans when they were conquered by julius caesar and a lot of them i mean they they're the celts had uh people in portugal and You know, were often traded by the Romans when they were conquered by Julius Caesar.

And a lot of them, I mean, the Celts had people in Portugal and Poland and some places as far as Turkey. So we have a long history of murder, of conquest and slavery all in that region. Jeez. Yeah. We have a whole bunch of super chats where people are just screaming Sydney. Sydney! Stephen A says, Sydney, I love your channel. It's cool to see you on Tim's show. You rock.

Jake says, yay, Sydney. She's my favorite strange Aussie. Jessica says, so glad to see Sydney on the show. Her comedy skits always make me laugh. I love it when people think I'm funny. That's the best thing, honestly, because sometimes I watch my content back and I'm like, What's your skit to politics ratio? I would say 30 stupid

and 70 politics but i'm introducing characters i have the most disgusting wigs it's just dreadful oh i want to get wigs how am i an adult it's bad you actually yeah i mean like hey well that's that's your thing there you go yeah let's do it out. Yeah. Let's do it. Rainbow ones. Wigging out. Wigging out. I'm wigging on. Daniel Welch says, Ian, the fake heme is made from genetically modified bacteria and has been rushed through testing for safety. Oh my God. Big industry money influence. Wow. Yikes.

Anton Kristof says, fourth time the charm. Fingers crossed. With how much you talk about veganism, you should have James Wilkes on. Worked on the Game Changers, MMA Fighter, and Trains U.S. Military. Yeah, that sounds cool. I like talking food, health, veganism, and all that stuff. Jordan Fowler says, will you upload Friday's

show? Please and thank you. It is on all podcast platforms, and we're going to put it on TimCast.com, and we will put it up for free for everybody. I think we have the ability to do that now, and so we will try our best. We'll do that later tonight. We'll try.

TJ Pollock says, hey, Tim, just your average everyday FedEx driver. Question about magic. Do you guys play Commander? And if so, who do you guys play as Commander? I quit Magic. I'm done. Yeah, I played Urza and beat the hell out of Tim, so he stopped. Actually, I played Urza first.

You did. And I had, like, Stasis. It was so brutal. And Winter's Orb. And everybody was Actually, I played Urza first. You did. And I had like Stasis and Winter's Orb and everybody was like, dude, nobody wants to play you anymore. And I was like, okay, I'm not going to play anymore.

Kaikar. And then I switched to some lower powered commanders and then Ian was like, now I'm going to destroy you all. And I was like, dude, this is not fun. Yeah, I'm not going to lose.

No, Magic's not fun anymore because it's just rich man wins. We've talked about that. Have you played Magic? I have no idea what you're talking about. Magic the Gathering, it's just rich man wins we've talked about that have you played magic i have no idea what you're talking about magic the gathering it's a card game oh no like a like a literal like in person yeah yeah well i mean it's online what's the objective is it a beat team um there's a player has 20 life everyone in the world and you play creatures and spells to attack your opponent like yugioh yeah yeah it's like it was a predecessor came after magic okay chess and poker combined.

I knew a thing. It's awesome. Chess and poker combined. And it's kind of like witch... Not witchcraft, but has like ancient traditions of magics, like black magic and white magic. But that's racist now. Red, blue, and green magic. Yeah, yeah.

Aren't they changing it? Maybe there's like nature magic. Stupid. I hope not. Yeah, I read something about like... Just leave it five star, you know, magic. One color affects two other it's really cool okay noted all right i might not be smart enough for that though to be completely

honest landon says i literally ran to my phone from across the warehouse i work in when i heard sydney was on based bad dad jokes and beautiful to boot she's the best oh there you go yes oh my god parallel night says sydney how did you become a citizen of the U.S. from Australia? It's my dream to move to U.S. from U.K. and collect historical firearms. Any info would be very helpful. Thanks, everyone. Free the code. Go Ian.

So, well, I cheated the system because my mom is a U.S. citizen. So me getting citizenship was just by virtue of being born and being a human being that was born to a yank so um i think that there's a honestly i've had a couple friends who've wanted to become citizens and i think it's a very complicated process as far as my understanding goes and i think that there's a bunch of different visas you can start off with but i think you either have to get sponsored or you have to guys correct me if you know any information about this because i i frankly'm not an expert because i mean like you guys i was just born as a citizen but i think it's just the visas are really difficult to get that's my understanding in the very least you need to you need to apply online

to go to australia if you're an american yeah you do it's because it's like you guys made it hard for us and for the brits as well and so we made it really hard back because of covid no no just generally like if um if anybody ever wants to move to aust Australia, you can get a two-year visa like that. Well, if you're under 30, you can. I don't know what it's like when you're over 30. But moving between Commonwealth countries is easy. There's a ton of super chats where they're like, Sydney, yay! That's so cute.

I love that. Felix Antoine Morin says, Hi from Quebec. Your show helped me stay awake and not become woke. I'm an elementary school and I fight wokeness on the ground by showing children stoicism and JBP wisdom. You're an entire elementary school. That's impressive. I'm kidding.

But yeah, Jordan Peterson's awesome. Stoicism is great too. 3D Pyromaniac says, Amen, Tim. Don't remember exactly what that was from, but I appreciate it. Rilo says, Watson's mixed accent reminds me of how I got my accent Southern. Our ancestors never fully kicked the accents of the old countries. Very cool.

Oh, well, at least someone appreciates it. Thank you. It's going to be really interesting when you get a mix of like standard non-regional American, Southern Texan and Australian all mixed together. Oh, my God. It's going to be even now. Like sometimes I accident and I'm not trying to be like a doodle head about it. And like I'm trying.

Do you see how hard I'm trying not to swear? Yeah, man. You really got me in a vice. You were like, oh, I don't swear. I never swear. It comes out sometimes because I hang out with Elijah so much and when we get going, it's just... And I swear a lot.

Like a lot. I don't swear on my channel at all, but I swear a lot in everyday life and I feel like it's just an Aussie thing. Just every other word. I'm just shattering the illusion now. People are like, oh my God. My understanding is that the C word in Australia

is more like saying buddy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it depends which kind of Aussies you ask, but most Aussies would just be like, yeah, what's up? See you next Tuesday. No, what was I talking about?

I've completely lost my train of thought. Your accent? Accent, yes. So when it ends up being, I accidentally say y'all and I go, Sydney, no, no, darling, you're not from this place. Do not stop that. I say y'all all the time, but that's because my dad- You're an American though.

It's okay. Well, my dad's from Waco. And so I grew up with him saying it all the time and I'm just, I like it. It sounds cute. It's cute. I like when people say American, though. It's okay. Well, my dad's from Waco. And so I grew up with him saying it all the time. And I'm just... I like it. It sounds cute. It's cute. I like when people say y'all.

It's a good word. Yeah. It's easy. Yeah. Oh, does he say use? Not a fan of that. Use. Not into that.

Use, guys. That's a Brooklyn thing, isn't it? Use. Use. Use, guys. Yins, apparently, is a thing, actually. You know what? I'm going to call you out, Ian.

You said crayon before. It's crayon. Crayon. Crayon. You'reon. Crayon. You're right. Crayon. K-R-A-N. Keep me honest.

Some wax crayons. I didn't know this was a thing until recently. Crayon. You disgusting creature. I'm a Northeast Ohioan. Wax. All right. Hey, Poofy says, Tim's description of Swedish racists sound exactly like the description for Democrats.

LOL. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds about right. Julian powell says luke don't ever mention bill cosby again you have hardly researched the details of those cases and hannibal burris he was propped up by hollywood oh smack down oh snap you got challenged you're entitled to your opinion send me some uh evidence to the contrary i'd love to hear it uh twitter.com

forward slash luke we are changed send me what you got. That could change my mind. Send me what you got. That's right. David Aramon says, love Sydney's content. Tim, I recommend a topic and guests. Normally not allowed, I know. You, Shoe Unhead, and Sydney for a center left and right discussion on men's rights and feminism's impact on culture and society.

Shoe is always welcome to come on the show. I will say it's like pulling teeth to get leftists to come on there they there's just a million and one excuses for every single time they've ever been invited as to why they can't do it i'll say this much if shoe i don't know if you and shoe know each other if you and june are friends i used to love her content. She's part of the reason why. Used to? Yeah, used to. What does that mean? Those are fighting words. No, I think I have her muted on Twitter, but I.

Whoa, even more fighting words. No, I really, I think she's so funny and I think her sense of humor is brilliant. But no, I would, you know what? I'd for sure do it, June. We've never spoken, but I once sent you an email. I don't think she'll do it. No, well, I'm just saying, you know, everyone go harass her. No, no, no, no.

No, not harass, harass. It's like, go say love the two. No, but I don't. Go encourage her. Encourage, encourage. There we go. The problem with the left is there's too vicious. Like, don't get me wrong.

You've got vicious people. You think June would be vicious? No, not her. Yeah. Is that she would get eviscerated by. Oh, yeah. That's fair. That'd be a? No, not her. Yeah. Is that she would get eviscerated by. Oh, yeah. That's fair. That'd be a good show, though.

Sure, sure. She tweeted something about, it was really funny. It was like remembering like November 22nd or something. And it said like Bernie Sanders was winning the primary. And the next image is like a crying Pepe or whatever. And then I responded with that Time Magazine article said they started this effort in the fall of 2019. These are high profile Democrats and media conglomerates fortifying the election before the primary. And then we know what happened with Iowa, where Bernie, like the results like never

came in, I guess there was this weird app or something. The left has routinely complained that Bernie Sanders gets cheated all the time. I tweeted agreeing, like, look at this article that said this. And then her followers attack, attack attack attack. I tweeted to Hassan Peeker Peeker Pike Pike Yep, I see it. Congrats when he broke half a million subs and his they just go nuts crapping all over me and so that's really awful Well, I didn't realize that that was I thought her her audience was was mostly people like you and me like the usses No, no, no, she's like I think think she's got like anti-woke leftists

for the most part now. There was, yeah. You said you had her muted on Twitter, I assumed you... She just posted, like there was one thing, I can't remember what it was, but it really, because I don't like blocking people

and I just think it's psycho. Like unless you're actually abusing me, I'm not going to block you. I just, nah. But I muted her because she just started saying things that i was like i don't it was just stuff that i was like oh dude like this is like way out in left field no whereas i'm like i follow a lot of liberals i do because i like getting an alternative viewpoint i think it rounds out my perspectives a lot but when people just go there was something that she did i can't remember

what it was but it went over the edge for me and i was like i'm out there are a lot of people that used to be like anti-sjw who have just basically stopped paying attention and then just given in to whatever the narrative is yeah i wonder if uh look i'm malicious by the way me me muting her was not it wasn't malicious like i don't have beef with her we've never spoken i just was like i wonder if do you know do you know what happened yeah it happened with happened with Lauren Southern and shoe. No, like they had done videos. Weren't they friends? They done videos together.

Yeah. And then like, I guess shoe put out a statement saying she couldn't be friends. Lauren Southern anymore or something. And then like retracted it or something like that. I don't know a whole lot about it. But I wonder if, you know, I wonder if there are a lot of people there like there are people that I literally hung out with and have been friends with who started disparaging me incorrectly, like like being critical on things that weren't true. Are you talking about me? No, I'm talking about other other like anti SJW YouTuber types who have been like, oh, well, you know, I'm going to say this about Tim.

And it's like, bro, you just made like, that's not true. Like, like, I think that there's I think what happened was there are a lot of people whose careers are built on YouTube. And when they were going after the anti-SDWs, I'm sorry, when they were anti-SDW, challenging critical theory and all that stuff, and they still kind of do. But when they were very heavily into it, hardcore and aligned with all the keck memes and everything, they were making money. And then once they people seeing people get banned for this and seeing the mainstream go after the keck flag and those memes all of a sudden their tunes changed and their and the videos they put out changed and the things they started saying was changing and now many of

these people who were once i don't know like hanging out with lauren southern are all of a sudden propping up you know far leftists and their audience has totally flipped and stuff. And there's a lot of them who did it. They don't want to get banned. They don't want to lose their income. And, you know, hey, well, when it's a business, it's a business, I guess. Yeah. I mean, I can respect that.

Not that. Well, no, respect's the wrong word. I don't know the right word, but I get it. Yeah, I can understand it, I guess. But yeah, I don't I don't want people thinking I dislike June. I don't. I just... There's...

It's, you know, I've invited a ton of leftists. Tons. If you ever get Vosh on, let me know. We did. We had him on. We did, yeah. Yeah. I love it.

Yeah, props to him. He came on. Yeah, he was great. Four-hour conversation, too. A lot of arguments. I love most people, though. And, you know, so props you know, props to him. We disagree on a lot of things, but that was all right.

I think, you know, I don't necessarily trust his. I don't believe him and his opinions. Like, you know, how do you. Why do you think they're disingenuous? Well, how do you praise roving bands of black individuals burning down black neighborhoods and then support 25,000 national guardsmen being in DC. There's no principle there. Like, are you in favor of like attacking minority communities? Now I understand they might argue that's hyperbolic of me to say, no, no, literally like in Atlanta, when that rapper was a big Mike came out and said, please stop burning down my business,

my neighborhood. Like, I'm not saying that he like vosh directly supported that specific moment but just like when i criticized the police heavily it was because they were destroying the working class when i criticized antifa and the black lives matter riots it's because they were destroying the working class when i criticized 25 000 troops in dc it's because it's literally an authoritarian lockdown it's always my opinion is always about like the working individuals the freedom and the rights of the people. People like Vosh, and this is just my opinion. He's allowed to disagree and maybe he'll say I'm incorrect.

But he comes out and it's like his position is supporting anti, but like, bro, they burned down a black firefighters bar in Minneapolis. Like, are you going to come out and condemn that? No, you're going to defend the actions of these people, probably maybe even calling out individually. But I think they should be wholly condemned for doing this and not protected. And then when I tweeted something like, you know, D.C.'s under lockdown, Vosh tweeted at me, well, is there a reason you think that may be the case? And I was like, bro, I just tweeted in support of Rashida Tlaib, a leftist, when she said

do not allow the government to expand their security powers over this. And he's like, well, there's, you know, a reason for it to be happening. I'm like, no, there's no context in which I'm going to support 25,000 federal troops locking down our nation's capital. Sorry, I'm not an authoritarian. So anyway, I digress. There's a lot of people who claim to be leftists, but they can't sit in the hot seat. They won't do it. They'll make up every excuse in the book. They'll, oh i can't do it i'm like vosh was here he had no issues he didn't get sick or anything like we have hand sanitizer we clean the whole place we take care of that i think the reality is most conservatives are uh not not all definitely not all but i would say most conservatives truly believe what they're saying yeah the leftists who are willing to come on a show like this believe what they're saying

and are brave. There are a lot of leftists who probably believe what they're saying, but are scared of getting eviscerated by the cult or the collective because they will. And cancel culture is brutal. Conservatives have their version of cancel culture for sure, but they're much more tolerant of people who disagree with them. Maybe it's because they've grown up being used to people saying you suck and you're bad. You know what I mean? And racism. So I'll say this. I will paint with a broad brush a lot of these anti SJW YouTubers who have gone left as cowards who have simply changed their

actual opinions in order to stay safe and maintain some kind of career. That's really what I think. I think, you know, you see what they say. You see who they disavow. You see how their opinions change. And it's like, oh, that's just so convenient for you, isn't it? Maintaining your business. And then meanwhile, their fans call other people grifters.

I know. They love that word, don't they? Yeah. Yep. Anyway, let's keep reading. Just a lot of tweets, you know. Sydney and and tim on one show it must be my birthday i love what you both do so much well great we should definitely have you on more i suppose yeah whoo daft punk broke up that says n cable so that you guys hear that no no they didn't just break up one of them exploded whoa

so they did a video where one of the dudes triggers a self-destruct and the other dude, he walks away and then explodes. And they're like, that's it. Deaf Punk's over. Yeah, they're done. What's that animated movie they did? And if you haven't seen it, you got to see it. It's amazing.

It's like an hour long movie. Yeah, it's all music. And it's like this animated. It's like Interstellar 25, 25 or 22, 22. Maybe Tim, you got to see see it it's awesome yeah hawk says it is so disheartening to have discussion with my woke lefty friends it seems like i have to unpack 10 concepts to get them to see my point of view even still they don't get how damaging the woke ideology is in practice let's play a game you're conservative right do you how do you

feel about universal health care okay no don't ask me these questions because i'm australian so no this is this is great this is why one of the reasons i don't fit i don't fit neatly into the conservative okay right right yeah i oscillate between libertarian and conservative okay i don't think universal health care in the american sense is good but i think that some i've never said this publicly um some sense of uh socialized health care is not a bad idea in my opinion like the australian idea the austral is not a bad idea, in my opinion. Not a bad idea. The Australian system is good. So like, in my opinion, but also we have, you know,

14 times less the population size or 15 times less. But we have affordable private health insurance, which I have. But if I get really sick and I have to go to the hospital for whatever reason, it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg and I don't have to sell my kidney. I went to the hospital emergency room and it was an overnight stay in 2014 for a kidney stone and the bill was i think what was it like sixteen thousand dollars that sounds right six like one six like zeros yeah and then when i when i called them and said it was actually right after i left device and before i started fusion so i had a gap then i said oh oh uh it's 45,500 it like dropped way down actually no no i think i i can't remember i've talked about this before it may have dropped down to 16 i think it dropped

down to 60 i think it was like 40 or something thousand i'm not sure it's insanely high insane overnight stay painkillers drugs cat scans x-rays trying to figure out what the problem was super expensive super intense so i'm in favor of like basic coverage. You break your arm, you get your arm set, you get the flu, you get Tamiflu, you go to the hospital and make sure you don't die. But you need some kind of private supplemental for more extreme and more expensive, you know. Right. And like elective surgeries and things like that.

Sure. Yes. You know, I don't like when people like chronic health care problems covering those because if someone eats crap and like refuses to stop eating sugar and they get really sick, I'm not going to pay for that. I refuse to pay for their idiocy. It's up to you to take care of your own body. If they fall down and break their arm, I'm happy to cover it. What about someone who's and this is not because I have a vested interest in this.

I'm actually just curious. What about someone who's got an illness that is completely has nothing to do with anything they've ever done in their life? They've been healthy and they just end up getting diabetes because they got a virus. You ever see Total Recall? Yes. What if like that dude that's growing out of their chest, like in Total Recall? Yeah, I guess if it's not diet-oriented, if it's something that they have no control over, then maybe, yeah, we should take care of it. But that's a really good point.

I'm just curious. There's an issue of America, a lot of sedentary people, a lot of out-of-shape, unhealthy individuals. 60% obesity in the U.S.? Yeah, crazy. That is a big problem. We'll be paying heavily for people having extreme weight. And then it will encourage them to not stop. That's the problem.

Yeah. Well, I guess it's because you don't want to pay well i guess the thing here is you don't want to pay for other people's lifestyle choices right that's what it is definitely not so that's why i think there's a like a i don't know if it's a libertarian argument but it's one that's like if you want to do drugs go for your life like you want to do the thing cool but in 20 years when you have like your you know you got no veins left and you've got nice. Exactly.

You know, your heart is not working. Your body is shutting down. Don't expect me to pay for it. And I think that's not a bad idea. The reason I asked is that we have no discernible way to determine what is conservative or liberal. Right. There's there's no like Vosh came here and he said that I was far right. You're far right. I was far out. You're far right? He said I was far right. Get out.

I know, it's funny. I'm like, I literally did a documentary on systemic and institutional racism, have argued with Trump supporters about the existence of such things. And they're like, you're far right. I tweeted, it was really funny. I tweeted, I actually like Jacobin, the magazine, because they have an article. They actually have several defending free speech. And so I was like, hey, look, I don't have to agree with them on their politics, their economic values, but they're standing up for the principle of free speech for the

right reasons, and I respect them for doing it. People who are willing to, like, we can disagree on policy and stuff, but if we agree on freedom and the reason we need it, well, I'm good. Go do your thing. And then someone responded, you're a leftist. It makes sense. And I'm like, I love it. To the conservatives, I'm a leftist. They're like obviously and then to the leftists i'm far right

so it's just like you're kind of politically homeless aren't you but you don't really fit neatly into yeah centrist i don't know though like i don't know if centrist really exists today i mean because of hyperpolarization it doesn't yeah because i would i would classify you as like center left yeah oh yeah definitely i've always been center left libertarian but i've always thought that i'm center right and people are always like why are you so far right why are you so right wing and i'm like what what about you is like far right nothing absolutely nothing but i get it all the time what makes you center right what do you feel like how do you because i think that i even though

people do i try really hard to see things from even though I don't agree with the liberal perspective most of the time, because I do. I am Australian. I've grown up in a country that's not like hard right. You know, it's Australian conservatism is very different to American conservatism, in my humble opinion, because your conservatives are still pretty leftist, right? Yeah. I mean, like there's some there's some.

So, for example, Australia is not a Christian. Well, some people are Christian in Australia, but for the most part, and some Aussies would disagree with me on this. A lot of Aussies are not Christian and they don't have any sort of religious bent. Or if they are a Christian, they're not practicing. My grandma, who is a hardcore Catholic, once described Australia as a godless nation, which I mean, I don't know. I don't know how wrong she is because a lot of people just don't have belief which is fine whatever um you know a lot of aussies are pro-choice so that's another big thing a lot of people would be like oh my god can't believe it

but that's like a really common perspective to have is just to be like yep cool i'm fine with this i think it's very simple are you woke or anti-woke i think that's a way better way of looking at things honestly and then yeah it's really funny because you get these progressives who thought it was better to prop up joe biden than donald trump because biden was weak i guess and he might give them some of what they want and my opinion was it was better to prop up donald trump because he was more disruptive to the establishment and was doing better for working class people than than biden was no new wars was a good thing not like trump was perfect and so it was like disruptive to the establishment and was doing better for working class people than than Biden was. No new wars was a good thing. Not like Trump was perfect.

And so it was like, is that the only real divide? Because on policy, I actually will like sit down with some of these like progressive channels and be like, oh, I agree. Yeah, I agree on that. Like we had destiny on the show and we agreed on a ton of stuff. And he but he's actually super woke. So I think that defines it, I guess. I guess I guess the thing is to be on the left, you have to never challenge the left, which is why leftists won't come on the show.

They're scared. And I'm not saying that to be mean or get a rise out of them. They genuinely are like, I will get attacked by the left. I'm willing to call them out and say, nah, these people are nuts. They aren't because they don't want to attack. They don't want to risk their bread and butter. Yeah, well, I mean, I guess I think that's why i'm happy to be on this side of things you know yeah people actually are open to it yeah freedom funny about that there you go collectivism versus

individualism yep that's a good way of thinking for yourself very important all right let's read some more we got larry rego says i just want you to say my name i'm drunk drunk and barbecuing keep up the good work my man will do that was. Daniel Welch says, can't wait for the members only section where Sydney can do us Aussies proud by showing we are the most foul mouthed country on earth. It's going to be great, isn't it? I'm excited. And about, oh man, we actually went way too long on the super chats. I got to read some more.

Student of History says, idea for a new law, the reaffirmation of the supremacy of the Constitution and amendments across the U.S. with fatty fines for and government group or persons violating these laws and yes timcast crew government stomps your rights and people say yes daddy see i told you it's a thing it's definitely a thing dj medeiros says gangas khan is it's changas khan changas changas khan and the mongol empire exterminated 11 of the world's existing population at the time of their empire. Yikes, man. He killed too many people. Jeez.

But he let them keep their religions. There you go. He left them alive? Yes. Daniel Irving says, Tim, please hire Sydney if she's willing. Been watching her channel for a couple of years. She's a perfect fit for Timcast IRL. Great.

They want you to stay on the show. There you go, Tim. Hot commodity. Hot commodity right here. NJB Football says, Hey Tim, this is my first Super Chat. If you want to mimic a New Zealand accent, listen to Clone Troopers in the Star Wars episodes 2 and 3. I know they say

teekst. Yeah, when you send someone a teekst. So your E sounds, you have to say sucks for six. So they say sucks. Sucks, yep. Sucks, te to say sucks for six. So they say sucks. Yep. Sucks.

D sucks is 66. Can you do a New Zealand accent? I cannot because I don't, I don't sound like I have a mouthful of sand. Is that what you say? Is that what that sounds? No, I apologize to the Kiwis, but the hardcore Kiwi accent, I'm like, Mary accent's kind of cooler. Is that where Kiwis are from? Kiwi fruits? No, they're from china oh kiwi birds are from new zealand they're from new zealand yeah yeah yeah because

they look like very cute they're very cute the civic nationalist says the queen is the head of state of all members of the commonwealth she has the power to dissolve parliament please read more about the monarchy if you are going to criticize my country get someone who actually does know this stuff on if you do want to talk about monarchy how dare you insult the queen i would love to have a monarch people love the queen someone that knows everything about it yeah not a monarchist maybe a monarchy expert like a monarchist is different like pro-monarchy i don't really care where their pro or con lies i just want the knowledge you know the the art that there i had a conversation with some lefties a long time ago where I said

that authoritarianism is more efficient than collectivism, and they disagreed. And I was like, listen, I didn't say it was good. I said that when the Soviets snapped their fingers to build something, it was built. Not well, though. Efficient doesn't mean, I'm not saying it was going to work. I'm saying that they could say go do this now in a free system in a free market system guiding you know trying to get something done is often very difficult incentives tax incentives weird regulation it ends up becoming just some kind of command economy we have a whole bunch of super chats from everybody saying that uh you know sydney is great glad to see her on the show so i'm just gonna skip over all these ones and uh jump down as you do a couple more well i collectively level the people who said

nice things there you go mickey stone says victorian here five thousand dollar fines aren't worth going further than five kilometers away from your home our police force is the bigger issue they just do whatever the government says also everyone in the suburbs hates melbourne city and inner suburb folk yeah it's so true no it is so true i so i grew up um in one of the last suburbs like of melbourne before it becomes victoria and yeah like people are just anti the city folk because they just aren't there it's just different it's different i'm not i'm not gonna say anything negative about them but it's just different but the police yes they act like attack dogs for the victorian government and it is revolting.

Totally revolting. You want to talk about police brutality? We should, when you can swear. In the bonus segment over at TimCast.com, we have a question for Luke from Drew P. Wiener. Is InfoWars Alex Jones owned by Time Warner and Ted Turner? What do you make of the video of a cop asking an Infowars employee who he works for? I haven't seen that video. Send it to me.

Luke, we are change. I don't think, you know, AJ works for Ted Turner or CNN. There was a lot of negative things said about Ted Turner and CNN by Alex Jones. So I haven't seen it. But if you have any evidence, what was his name again? P. Wiener. P. Wiener. P. Wiener. Drew P. Wiener. If you have some evidence what what was his name again p wiener p wiener p wiener droopy wiener if you have some evidence i would love to see it uh luke we are changed twitter brandon mcgregor says not all aussies are happy with other aussies being like okay daddy government

but then again i'm an aussie that is not a descendant of convicts so maybe that has something to do with it also great to see sydney here oh yeah i totally acknowledge that that's why i want to make the point some wazis are like daddy yay government but a lot of them think like i do and they're based and i love them because they are criminals yeah because uh well apparently our friend here is not a crim a crim is that what you guys say yeah do you guys like you you like find out this guy you've been dating is actually a crim and you're like oh no you know secret tribes of the descendants of the common yeah we're all separated out into our little segregation groups you got us exactly grant thompson says slave comes from the french word esclave of the same term esclave comes from the latin word esclava which is the latin word for that term

as well as the latin word for slav slavs were the predominant slaves of europe oh interesting where's my reparations nova nova zero says hey sydney you want to start saying yeah nah to see to these see uh your new mates yeah nah um that's actually a thing we do say that yeah nah for yeah kevin sear says ian you get my very first super chat sometimes when you open your mouth it's like nails on a chalkboard but dang dang it i love that shirt reminds me of david tenet's david tenet's doctor on doctor who you keep being you i'd love i'd love to get like one of those uh time warp machine things did that burn your ears dude what was that guy's name?

Thanks for the super chat by the way man Cyan Davies says My other super chat didn't seem to go through properly But I was saying that Australia isn't the weak minded Country of weak individuals many are saying Most of us just want to be left alone To do what we want Yeah

That's what everybody kind of wants But when you do that the bad people take over Patriot American says Tim are you planning on having Kyle Kashuv on the show Yeah. That's what everybody kind of wants. But when you do that, the bad people take over. Yeah, that's true. Patriot American says, Tim, are you planning on having Kyle Kashuv on the show anytime soon? Also, Sydney, love you and your videos. No, but we could. Definitely. Kyle's cool.

Would love to have him on the show. That'd be great. Talk about guns and other stuff. Let's see. Let's maybe do one more. Mad Russian says, Sydney, why do you call yourself a vampire lord okay so back in the day probably about probably about a decade ago i used to make videos music videos where i'd like playing play piano and sing because that's the thing that i used to do and a couple people found the channel that i have that is still up on youtube i think

that has two videos on it and they were like oh you haven't aged in 10 years so you must be a vampire and i was like yep definitely a vampire i can't remember where the lord thing came from it's just when people say stupid things to me that i just i'm like well cool guys here's my new name well it just means you're in charge of the vampires exactly i am the vampire lord i mean like that's that's your widow's peak yeah exactly all right it's a hardcore one too let's see c4 my burgers workshop i'm probably pronouncing that wrong says i'm a kiwi and we don't speak like that end your blasphemy deekst uh i interviewed that guy gareth morgan and his

wife because they rode their motorcycles through north and south korea so cool yeah it's crazy stuff cool story uh, my friends, smash that like button. And if you haven't already, go to TimCast.com, become a member because we're going to have a profanity-laden segment

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Hit the notification bell. Share this podcast with your friends because it's the best way to actually promote it we really appreciate it you want to shout out anything sydney oh no just you know what i because youtube has started uh age restricting and deleting my content have they really yeah it's it's really upsetting i wake up to like this is age restricted this i'm like okay cool this is great um got we got my first uh warning and all that sort of stuff happening so it's a good time welcome to the club yeah i feel like i'm part of a really like a really small cool group of people now no but um my biggest thing at the moment is because i don't

know how long my channel is going to be around uh if you do want to go and follow my channel people are welcome to obviously sydney watson it's very all straightforward but my website i would love people to go and subscribe to my email list because then I can send them cute emails about things I'm doing. There you go. There you go. I'm just, yeah, I'm like you. I don't want to promote the big social medias because it's like, they just hate us. And you never know how long you're going to be around for before they're just like, yep, that's it.

Get out. That's exactly what I've been doing. Also on wearechange.org, top right hand corner, you could put in your email and you could guarantee my safety from, of course, the big tech oligarchs that, of course, we haven't been having the best of relationship as of with for a very long time. Also, the shirt I'm wearing right now says you had me at F the system. If you like it and you want it, you could get it on the best political shirts.com. The best political shirts.com. Thanks again for having me.

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We get one last super chat because this one just came in. Michael Holder says, check out the latest Vosh Destiny debate. Lots of crazy to dig through, but the main takeaway is that Vosh not only literally doesn't have principles, but believes no one has principles. Dude's legit nuts. Destiny looked like the Pope in comparison. With that being said, let's jump to the TimCast.com members-only bonus segment coming up in hopefully just about an hour or so. Go to TimCast.com, and we will see you all there. Thanks for hanging out.

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