Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #232 - ACLU Demands Supreme Court Force Women To Register For Draft w/Ethan Suplee

Episode Date: February 26, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia sit down with actor Ethan  Suplee to discuss the ACLU's recent lobbying to get the draft expanded to include females, Jason's weight-loss success the gay newscaster who was ...fired for suggesting obese patients not receive the Covid vaccination first, the pods that school kids are relegated to, and the Fed crash that disrupted the economy. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The ACLU has submitted a petition to the Supreme Court and actually has reached the Supreme Court where they are. Well, they're stating unequivocally that women should be forced to sign up for the draft. And I know a lot of people in the comments are like, wow, the ACLU actually fighting for equality, like women should have to do the draft, too. And I'm kind of like, nobody should have to do the draft. I'm not for the draft. So I don't know. I feel about that. I understand it's equality, but I'm kind of like, how about you just stop requiring dudes to sign up for the draft? There is an interesting
Starting point is 00:00:31 conversation in that though, because conscription in some aspects, well, I mean, it makes sense. If a foreign adversary of the US literally dropped troops onto our beaches, started storming the streets and whatever, yeah, we'd have to defend ourselves. There's a really interesting conversation around that. And then we got some other stories, too. This is crazy. A D.C. news anchor made a comment about fat people, not that they shouldn't be allowed to get the vaccine before anyone else.
Starting point is 00:00:57 And he got fired because of it. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about some of the other issues of the day. We've got we got things about that. We'll talk about some of the other issues of the day. We've got things around that. And we've actually got a very famous movie star hanging out with us, Ethan Suplee. You want to introduce yourself? Hello, I'm Ethan Suplee. Thanks for having me, Tim.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Just real quick, what do you do? Who are you? I'm an actor. I have a podcast called American Glutton. I have a movie coming out later this year. And I've been in some movies that maybe some people have seen. And television shows.
Starting point is 00:01:29 That's right. Yeah. I think people are probably familiar with you. Definitely. And I'm wearing your hoodie. Yeah. Thank you. It's a cool hoodie.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I liked it. American Glutton is my guess. So Ethan gave me this American Glutton hoodie, and I thought it was an anarchy hoodie. That's pretty cool. American Glutton. But I'm like, I don't want to wear it anyway. So there you go. So yeah, yeah. Definitely. We'll talk about some stuff. I'm really interested I don't wear it anyway, you know? So there you go. So yeah, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:01:45 We'll talk about some stuff. I'm really interested to talk about Hollywood, actually, because the way COVID has changed everything. Yeah. Before the show, we were having a kind of interesting conversation about what this is going to mean for big A-list actors when movie theaters don't really exist in the same way. So we'll talk about that stuff. We also got Luke hanging out.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I really like the colors of that hoodie. It's cool. And those women better get ready because the united states just bombed syria and everyone's talking about a toy potato so everything's going great welcome back beautiful amazing human beings my name is lucardowski of wearechange.org if you wish to support me you can very easily by purchasing my shirts like the wear one i'm wearing right now that says the media is a virus which you could get exclusively on thebestpoliticalshirts.com. Thanks for having me. That's a spicy shirt.
Starting point is 00:02:30 It is. But it is honest. The media is the virus. Ooh. Yeah, we got Ian. Hey, everybody. What's up? Ian Crossland, you know me.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I got a NASA jacket on. It was a little cold up here, so we threw on the awesome hoodie and this thing. Jackets, yeah, yeah. I don't work for NASA or anything. Ethan, it's good to see you. Ethan was in one of my favorite movies of all time mall rats i just found out yep blowing my mind dude do you remember who i was yet yeah okay i keep thinking about it i love it okay good it's one of the best scenes i haven't seen it in like the little boys like it's a
Starting point is 00:02:58 schooner and what do you say like you dumb i'm not gonna say it i call him a bad word yeah yeah yeah nice it's a sailboat i also attack easter yeah that's right yeah yeah the bunny yeah yeah yeah yeah brutal vicious punch it in the face or something do i punch it out or something just kick it i might kick it i don't actually remember it has been a while it's kind of crazy that michael rooker's in that movie and then he went into the marvel movies for Guardians of the Galaxy. And it's like, man, that guy's been working forever. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 We shot that movie 26 years ago. Wow. What was it like? Gorilla shooting like on the on the scene under or did you get run out of that? Yeah, that they had money for. So we rented a mall in Minnesota and we had basically the whole mall and we would shoot at night um yeah but we had the run of it cool so epic mall america i had a scene with stan lee which was pretty awesome oh that's right yeah man wow so cool they got to get you in the marvel movies next
Starting point is 00:04:00 or the tv shows whatever they're doing that'd be cool. We also got Sour Patch. Let's press another one. Yes, I am pushing all the buttons in the corner for Ethan Suplee. It's super cool. Suplee. Excuse me. I've got to get my pronunciation wrong. We all pronounce it wrong.
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Starting point is 00:06:25 the event that we get purged. But let's just jump to the first big news story, and then we'll just roll with it. It's very simple. From the Hill, Supreme Court asked to declare the all-male military draft unconstitutional. The ACLU issued a new petition saying women should be required to register for enlistment as well. They say a new petition issued by the ACLU has made it to the Supreme Court and aims to declare the historic male-only military draft unconstitutional. Noting that the U.S. Department of Defense lifted the ban on women serving in combat in 2013, the petition specifies that the obligation for men to register upon turning 18 years old has yet to be applied to women.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Quote, thousands of women have since served with distinction in combat positions across all branches of the military. The formal petition reads, the registration requirement has no legitimate purpose and cannot withstand the exacting scrutiny of sex-based laws that sex-based laws require. Rooted in this argument is the 1981 case Rotsker v. Goldberg, which argued that because American men are required to register under the U.S. law and women are not, the male-only draft is discriminatory and unconstitutional. The act gives U.S. presidents the power to require mandatory conscription of eligible adult males into the U.S. Army, but excludes women. Ultimately, the court held the act does not violate equal protection clauses under the Fifth Amendment and that the government is allowed to develop an army in times of national emergency. Now the petition asked the Supreme
Starting point is 00:07:52 Court to overrule Rotsker v. Goldberg since women are formally allowed to register for military service and in combat roles. And just as an aside, I don't want to derail from this story. We have the Equality Act being passed by the House, which would add sex to the 1964 Civil Rights Act. So as far as I'm concerned, ladies, start lining up and registering for the Selective Service because y'all are going to be drafted. I have a question. I didn't realize that there was still a draft. I realized that when I was the age for the draft, I was obese and wouldn't have qualified. I also have flat feet.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But did you guys all register for the draft? Yes. You did? Yeah. I don't remember. Well, you're, what, 41? Didn't you have to if you go to college? So, like, you have to apply for selective services?
Starting point is 00:08:38 You have to register to vote. Yeah. Yeah. Like, when you were doing, when you go to the DMV, they give you forms. It would be like, I signed up for the Selective Service and then you're here. I had no idea. Yeah, yeah. Now, they say that the all-volunteer force is more effective and I think that's true.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Like the data shows you get a bunch of people who don't want to be there who are scared and forced into it. You get a really ineffective fighting force. I think that's what they learned from Vietnam. So my bigger question with all of this is I know there's a lot of guys who are probably laughing and cheering like, yeah, yeah, finally, because we've seen this before. There was another attempt at making this happen, and feminists were outraged. They were like, this is not what I wanted when I said I wanted equality. I do not want to have to go to war and fight in combat or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:09:22 And it's like, well, that's what equality means. But I guess there's a libertarian question in all this. Should there be a draft? I do not want to have to go to war and fight in combat or anything like that. And it's like, well, that's what equality means. But I guess there's a libertarian question in all this. Should there be a draft? I mean, look, like I said, there's people like guys who are like, ha ha, now you have to sign up for the draft. I'm kind of like, nah, I don't know if anybody should have to do that, right? Well, if you look at what wars we're fighting, they're not really wars promoting freedom. They're not really wars fighting any kind of threat. And I think Henry Kissinger,
Starting point is 00:09:45 he has this famous quote. He said, quote, military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in American foreign policy. Wait, Guy, I swear. What? Really? Yeah, Henry Kissinger said that. I confronted him on it, face-to-face, one-on-one. He didn't like that question. But now, we need an official correction
Starting point is 00:10:02 for Mr. Kissinger. He needs to state specifically that military men and women are now just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy. So we need an official correction. I hope the mainstream media pressures Mr. Henry Kissinger to offer discourse. I'm being facetious, obviously, here. But, I mean, obviously, I'm against the draft. I mean, I think it's a ridiculous idea. You look at the wars that have been started.
Starting point is 00:10:24 All of them are based on false pretenses. All of them are based on benefiting the military industrial complex that is now getting their lunch with the Biden presidency, especially with the latest attacks that happened tonight. But also even before that, when you look at Raytheon, for an example, which, by the way, a board member is now our defense secretary of Raytheon. That's great. Well, it's very, what do they call it in the media when they described him? now our defense secretary of Raytheon. That's great. Yeah. Well, it's very, what did they call it in the media when they described him? He was a person of color, and that was great. His history.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah, they talked about diversity, but not his Raytheon past. And now you look at what the Biden administration is doing at Raytheon. Raytheon just got an $85 million weapons deal with Chile, $197 million weapons deal in Egypt, $197 million weapons deal in Egypt, $245 million weapons deal with the United States, and another $1.2 billion weapons deal with U.S. missile defense systems. That's what Raytheon just got under a Biden presidency. Wait, wait, wait. You said missile defense systems? Upgrading and working on the military defense system. But will there be women forced through conscription to be manning those?
Starting point is 00:11:26 That's the big question. Well, right now, there was a—I remember just a few years ago, there was a crisis with trying to enlist people in the military. But now, with how robotic everything is becoming, especially with the onset of things like drone warfare, the United States military doesn't need as many people. And with the recent economic downturn, more people are volunteering. So right now, the United States does not need to use the draft. But if there was a bigger conflict, let's just say with Russia, which of course, the United States is positioning itself with, especially with tonight's actions, bombing a Syrian facility that's used by the Iranian-backed rebels, you have to wonder that this is something that might play a big role in the future.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I wonder if one of the reasons we're seeing this, it's not the first time it's happened. In the past few years, there have been attempts to get women into combat roles and to sign up for, it's not the draft specifically, it's the Selective Service, I think it's called as it was called, Selective Service. And it's essentially the draft database that in the event they have to reinstate the draft, they got everybody's info. But we've been talking about war with China for quite a bit. I mean, the threat in the South China Sea and the threat to Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I'm not entirely convinced Biden's going to go against China in that capacity. But maybe the U.S. has currently got, I think, some aircraft carriers in the in the south china sea could be remnants from the trump administration but we seem to be pretty close to war i think uh was it vladimir putin who said that we're in a period it's kind of like pre-world war ii you know then we're looking we see things like that we see the money supply i don't i don't even have you seen this stuff with the money supply skyrocketing yes like just like printing money like crazy so i wonder if they're basically saying we need to start preparing and putting together this database in the event that we gotta go fight some people you know i'm really anti-war and really really dislike the draft i would have been if i vietnam one of those guys that fled to canada probably
Starting point is 00:13:19 because i didn't want to go what's wrong with mexico you're not that old stuffed in a tube go crawl through tunnels with a pistol looking for dudes with AKs waiting for me. Like, no. You sure you wouldn't have been a refrigerator repairman or something? Yeah. I don't want to get inside of a refrigerator for a repairman. Is that what you just said?
Starting point is 00:13:36 I said something like, wouldn't you have been a refrigerator repairman? Yeah. It would have been something like that. In the army, you mean. I get it. But then they would send those guys into the jungle you'd be like i'm an engineer yeah you're an engineer on the front line it was terrible terrible but i but i see a value to the draft in that if we were invaded you got to get people you gotta get them armed and get them
Starting point is 00:13:54 in and and you're not waiting hoping that they'll come to the defense of the country if we get invaded but we don't get invaded. We never have been invaded. Yeah, geopolitically, the United States is at a very, very big advantage compared to a lot of other countries where it's located. So we're in a very safe, safe position. As well as many gun owners that, of course, also add another big national defense. And there was a meme showing all the crazy people that lived all over the United States. And it was a meme saying, this is why the United States never gets invaded. South Los Angeles, it was Koreans. And then other than that, it was Vatos.
Starting point is 00:14:32 And then it was gang members in Chicago. It was Florida man in Florida. Hicks in Texas. I forgot exactly all the other representation of America. But the Chicago police can't even take over Chicago. For real. America will never be invaded. Fifth-generation warfare is the only way
Starting point is 00:14:50 to really take over the United States, and I believe that's personally happening right now. Yeah, it is. There was a really funny tweet I saw earlier where it was from... I think the website was The Gray Zone, which is like anti-war leftist, and they tweeted,
Starting point is 00:15:02 information war is real, and Twitter added a label, this information may have been obtained through hacking. And then it's like, Twitter literally proved the point that we try and call out these big military firms and the manipulation and the propaganda. Twitter itself is like, this is propaganda. Ignore this. There's nothing to see here. So yeah, you know what, like, I brought up, you know, China and potential for war. I think we I think you'll just see skirmishing, you know, skirmishes, some little hot, you know, back and forth, maybe like Hong Kong. If China goes for Taiwan, it's not going to be.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Well, it might be. I'm not entirely sure. But I think you're right in that, you know, Luke, we've been talking about fifth generational warfare. Are you familiar with what? No, I don't know what fifth generational warfare means. Basically, we're past the point where violence is effective in allowing someone to gain control of a population. And what we're seeing from that is like with the culture war in the US, victimhood is power. So if you victimize someone, you lose legitimacy.
Starting point is 00:15:59 So what we're seeing now, manipulation, propaganda, convince populations to join you through information, manipulation, big tech companies, et cetera, it's going to be way more effective than physically punching somebody. And also push self-destructive tendencies and also push things that ultimately destroy a nation to destroying their youth. And if you look at our youth, I mean, I did a video about this today, record high suicides, especially in places where there's the most strictest lockdowns. And there's even court cases of major people arguing we need to bring back the schools because kids are going to keep killing themselves in record numbers like they already are, which is absolutely crazy. The lockdown stuff's getting real bad.
Starting point is 00:16:39 I mean, how would you rank Americans? I mean, I think you're our age. Throughout the years, I think it's safe to say that things haven't been going that well for the American people. I think I'm a little older than you guys. How old are you? 44. Well, you're a little bit older than Ian.
Starting point is 00:16:53 41. But you're 10 years older than me. Yeah, there you go. Thank God. I thought you were going to say, no, we're the same age. I was going to be shocked. Yeah. You know, at the end of the day, I think that all of the things that we think of as having power in America are all just ideas. And so if these structures, I think that the way to dissolve them isn't through war and violence. For real, it is just to convince people. That's exactly what fifth generational war is yeah but i i think like like if you look at how the ussr kind of dissolved and it got really rough immediately following the dissolution of the ussr and there was a lot of scary stuff happening over
Starting point is 00:17:37 there yeah but people just went like i don't want to do this anymore yeah it was a loss loss of confidence right i'm worried about that for here in the us you know like if people stop believing went like, I don't want to do this anymore. Yeah. It was a loss of confidence. Right. I'm worried about that for here in the US. You know, like if people stop believing in the legitimacy of government or of institutions, it's not about whether or not they oppose them. Opposition is not the opposite. So opposition is not the opposite of confidence. Indifference would be.
Starting point is 00:18:01 So if you've got people who are looking to the US government and they're saying, I believe in this government in that it's strong and capable and you must abide by its laws. And honest. That's a big thing too. And well, if people view it as not honest and they come to oppose it, the opposition is still rooted in the idea that the government holds power and is legitimate. But let's say there's a system that people find they're indifferent to, so they outright ignore. That's when government actually collapses. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Well, the thing is, there's a lot of people losing confidence in the system because of all the dishonesty. There was a great article. I forgot who wrote it. I forgot where I read it. But it said, the reason we have things like theories about government... Can we even say that word? Oh, the C word. Yeah. Can we even say that word? Oh, the C word. Can we even say the C word?
Starting point is 00:18:47 I don't know. What's the C word? Conspiracy. YouTube downranks severely anybody you talk to. I was trying to think of another word for it. I threw it to you because you're great at that. I was like, but when you look at a lot of the conspiracy theories, they're kind
Starting point is 00:19:04 of rooted in a lot of the bigger government lies. And there wouldn't be as many of them if the government was just honest with us. And let's be honest, they're not honest with us in so many instances, in so many different ways, whether it's war, whether it's health, whether it's diet, whether it's the food chain, whether it's big industries like the sugar industry, we have a lot of problems with mainline institutions that profit off of our suffering. And talking along the lines of fifth-generational warfare, I think it's very fair to say that a lot of people have been convinced to make very bad decisions for themselves. And I think that's an understatement when you look at our modern-day society and where it's heading right now. Well, let's play devil's advocate and say, you know, when talking about the draft and specifically, refresh me on what your point was, because I want to make sure I get it
Starting point is 00:19:51 correct. Well, the larger point is people are making really bad decisions for themselves and they're hurting themselves for the benefit of the very few that have no allegiance to the United States. So just like playing devil's advocate, if we did end up collapsing and people did lose confidence, Ethan Hughes mentioned things got really bad post-Soviet Union. The oligarchs came. Isn't there a benefit to having even if it's bad? And again, playing devil's advocate here because I'm not a big fan of big government.
Starting point is 00:20:18 But what are the benefits to having a system in place that may be oppressive but still functions? There's safety and security. But by the way, it got bad there there it doesn't have to get bad here you know i think i think there's a weird thing that happens in america with the medium with government and stuff like that you know the um the blue and black and and white and gold dress do you remember that right right right and then laurel yanni how people can actively experience objective reality differently. Now, I didn't, when my kids first showed me this and said, what color do you see? And I said, well, that's clear.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I don't remember what it was. I think I said it's a black, a white and gold, whatever it was. And my kid said, no, it's these colors. I thought you're messing with me. This is clearly, I mean, objectively. I thought you're messing with me. This is clearly, I mean, objectively not the colors you're saying it is. And they insisted. And then it turns out lots of people saw it differently. There's no room in political discourse or just culture for us to go, that person is experiencing this differently than I am. I really try to think about people arguing in line at a Baskin Robbins over ice cream flavors.
Starting point is 00:21:30 And at the end of the day, I'm going like, what difference does it make? Why are we allowing this to ruin our lives? And why are we obsessing on it? Everybody likes a different flavor. Right. I did a tweet where I said, we really need to re-engage science-ology and go deep into it, rip it apart, and come back. And I was talking about the science of science. And so many people thought I said Scientology. They were responding as if I'd said Scientology, and they were angry.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And it's just like misperception. And that's not even the blue-gold thing where you're actually literally seeing – they actually saw something different. I do want to bring up, though, when you mentioned the blue and gold thing. One of the biggest drivers of that was people had different phones with different color schemes. And with the Laurel and Yanny thing, people had different speakers. So what was really happening. But I could sit with my friends. Oh, no, for sure. And listen to it.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And somebody's going, no, I hear Yanny. There's a really amazing thing someone did where they took both the blue and gold and the white and the white and gold and the blue and black. And they cut a piece out and they moved it left and right to and the white, the white and gold and the blue and the black, and they cut a piece out and they moved it left and right to show you it was the same. Wow. Or, yeah, like, but it was based on shadowing,
Starting point is 00:22:31 like shading made, it was like, that really looks like, that's crazy how that works. And then there's another thing that's really funny. There's a meme where it was, I think seven different phrases, but it was one soundbite. And so whichever one phrase you read, you would hear.
Starting point is 00:22:46 That's really freaky. Wow. I can't remember what it was. I think it was like iPhone for us. And then it was like a whole bunch of different phrases. And you hear it differently. If you look at the word and you read it and listen, you'll hear that. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:01 There was another crazy experiment I saw where they had people say fa ba and va and then they would play like someone saying ba but show the f sound and people would hear the f sound because they're seeing like people don't realize how much their worldview is is is like not perfect right yeah yeah i mean i think you make a good point that a lot of what's going on politically is that like actually have you ever seen this meme where there's a six on the ground or it's a nine but there's two people on both sides looking at it saying six or nine yeah that's like a good example of what we're experiencing right now and it's causing people to like want to punch each other in the face yeah i also get a little hung up with the idea of should um when we think about all of this stuff and i hear people
Starting point is 00:23:46 saying this is how it should be i kind of go like well that's how you want it to be but really what a should mean you know even when we're talking about science science doesn't have values people add values to science so right anytime somebody is saying something should be a way I'm kind of like, OK, maybe you and a bunch of people don't want it to be that way. Or you and a bunch of people do want it to be that way. And I think it's really interesting to listen to people who say, here's this problem that I perceive and here's a solution that I'd like to try and enact. But like that's a rational conversation. But, you know, that meme where it's like the guy goes, I'm angry. And he says, here's a solution. I don't. He's like, I'm mad.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Here's a solution. I don't want a solution. I want to be mad. And he's burning it. Yeah, that's fair, too. You sound like a very what are the leftists insult? They say radical centrist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:36 That you're like, hey, maybe maybe everybody has like a different understanding of things. No, you're either in our tribe or you're bad. Right. Well, yeah. I mean, look, at the end of the day i i also don't think there is i don't think everybody should be forced to uh adhere to the same structures so if if people want to be communist i'm all for it i just don't think i should have to be forced to right on to be a communist that's why i like the sweater i thought
Starting point is 00:25:04 it was the anarchist symbol but it's your podcast right it's a communist. That's why I like the sweater. I thought it was the anarchist symbol, but it's your podcast. Right, it's just a podcast. That's why I like it. I'm like, yeah, yeah. We talk about diet. By the way, diets are safe to talk about because there's no military back here. Unless you mess with the vegans. The vegans, I mean, they're like a militia. But you know what? Look, I'm happy to talk to vegans
Starting point is 00:25:20 and carnivores, and I don't do either of those things, but at the end of the day, there is no... Nobody's going to force you to do it so it's kind of safe you know what i mean but you could get canceled like was it uh um adele she didn't get canceled but they got really mad because she she had lost all this weight and and and again you know just for everybody watching it's like i think i think a core component of your podcast has to do with your you know health and wellness and weight loss transformation stuff for sure uh yes i i think adele was a hell of a lot more famous than me so that's a tick against her for like she's already on more fragile footing um also i'm a dude and and we have to deal with that stress in much different ways than gals do definitely and
Starting point is 00:26:06 she was kind of uh you know and i think i think it's really awesome i i really like lizzo a lot and what lizzo talks about but i think adele meant something to a lot of people so when she stepped out of it it was crushing to them but i think adele should be able to do whatever the hell heck adele wants well able to do whatever the hell heck adele wants well i mentioned this to you uh before the show that i knew people when i was younger that were big fans of you you know you're you're in these movies and you were very you know overweight is it or obese i was whatever you can't offend me with those words well uh you know just for the you know keep it keep it friendly i everybody. I was 550 pounds. So I was morbidly obese.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Perhaps even moribundly obese. Moribundly obese. I love it. That phrase. Not it really, just like the pointing it out. Anyway, but I knew people when I was younger that were fans of yours because you represented them. They looked to the movies and they finally saw, hey, this person's like me. And I think that's really interesting, especially what you mentioned with Adele, because it was probably the same thing.
Starting point is 00:27:07 There are a lot of young, overweight women who see that she's famous and successful and talented. And then she sought to lose weight probably because she wanted to be healthier and take care of herself and live longer and all of these things make people feel bad, I guess. Yeah, I've definitely had some people say, I preferred you fat. Um, and I just don't care. Like, cause I want to be the way I'm, I had been wanting to be the size I am now for so long that like how you want me to be doesn't really matter. And then I will say, uh, the flip side is there are a ton of people out there who also have goals that maybe they haven't achieved that they look at me and go like, I wasn't even necessarily that heavy. And he did this. Maybe it's possible for me too. And that,
Starting point is 00:27:58 and that feels good. What was it, the experience like growing up? Like how did it, how did you find yourself to become obese and then what changed and how did you get to where you are now well interestingly enough when we um think about this in political terms and the idea of forcing people to do things they don't want to do i was placed on diets starting at five years old whoa and i i never wanted to be on a diet at five. I'd never wanted to be like the moment I woke up and went, I want to be on a diet. I want to lose weight was the first time in my life that diet started working. And I was 22 at that point, but I was also 550 pounds. Also, it had nothing to do with health. Like that was not a metric I was using. I, uh, you know, sitting in this chair when I was, uh, even today I come in and I'm testing
Starting point is 00:28:51 the chair. Like, is this chair going to collapse under me? Uh, waking up every day with swollen, sore feet, you know, having real knee issues. Um, sweating as I'm tallying off from a shower that i had cool so i wouldn't overheat like these are the issues that i was like i'm done doing that uh health never entered into it and i was very unhealthy once i got my footing and i started to become more healthy i went oh this is this is really cool too now i'm gonna apply this metric as a goal. And that's been something I put, but I don't think any of it works if you're, if you're trying to force somebody to do it. So
Starting point is 00:29:32 there's a real weird conversation happening right now in the world where there is one team going, um, uh, obesity or overweightness or whatever word is appropriate is not a metric in health and then there's another team going uh as a reaction to that almost you're just lazy um you need to lose weight and so there's these two bizarre battles um and i i personally don't think either is right i think we live in a day where there isn't a lot of physical activity required. Certainly, we're not out hunting and gathering food. Even the job, the workplace has gone down as far as like physical abilities. Look at us sitting in chairs.
Starting point is 00:30:22 This is your job. This is amazing. And so at the same time, food has become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and like of course people are going to get become overweight this is like a perfect uh conflict of events to lead to that you know we're the wealthiest country of all time ever we have a lot of overweight people because they're all kings. And now they close the gyms, tell people to stay inside. And some countries even make sure that they can't walk two blocks away from where they live.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Right. So a lot of insanity is happening, especially I think the conversation about health has been hijacked by so many different individuals, by so many different special interests. And there's so many different opinions on there. I think a lot of people have a hard time finding out what's right for them. But then also a lot of people forget you're an individual. Individually, what's right for you might not be right for someone else. So that's another big discussion. I think it's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:16 You mentioned it kind of like the libertarian nature of it. Like you've got to decide for yourself. People can't force you to do it. You've got to figure out what works for yourself as well. Yeah. I don't think forcing people to do anything is is is right doesn't work i mean yeah i don't think so either you said moderate when i asked you earlier you said moderation was how you did what is that exactly you know at the end of the day all almost all
Starting point is 00:31:37 you know even if you're even if you're not hyper focused on, the principle behind diets is thermogenesis. It's the way you use energy. And so food is an energy source for your body. I've done, you know, I'm just going to eat 500 calories a day for two months and white knuckle my way through it. That's extreme, right? Taking an entire food group and demonizing it and cutting it out of my life. That's also extreme. I, at the end of the few years ago, I found like, if I just spend some time counting calories and figure out, because I actually had no idea what my body required, I would cut out carbs. And then after a while, I wouldn't lose weight anymore because I was eating too much steaks and avocado and butter, right? And then I would just have to start reducing that
Starting point is 00:32:30 without thinking about it. But I'm going like, if I want to lose weight, I have to eat less. And then I start losing weight again, which is kind of against the principle of the keto diet, where you're supposed to just be full from eating a bunch of fat. Yeah. where you're supposed to just be full from eating a bunch of fat. But at the end of the day, the way your body consumes excess fat is by feeding it too little. Now, if you go really extreme, the vast evidence is that you're going to relapse. Very few people go very extreme, do it very quickly, and then have that as a sustainable achievement. You need to set a habit. You need to create a routine and then turn the routine into a habit.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And the people who do crash diets and stuff, they don't. They're forcing themselves. And then once they get to their desired goal, their habits return. So it's really about, what do they say? It's like 21 days. To set a habit. Yeah, set a habit. I've heard that too. Something like that. Yeah. return so it's it's really about i think what do they say it's like 21 days just out of habit yeah i said i have it too something like that yeah and and and you know the other thing is um there's there's just a there's just a lot of nuance in here i can also empathize with the idea
Starting point is 00:33:36 of like when you're ready to do it and you wake up one day and you go oh my god i can't be this weight anymore it's hard to breathe you know um i'm sweating all the time my feet hurt my back hurts you want it fast you want to you know as i wanted it fast you want to get that weight off as quick as possible yeah it's very hard to like take a step back and go this is going to take a lot of time and a lot of hard work that's a really hard proposition to make for people and also rewinding a lot of the kind of establishment conditioning that's brought on to people that starts off as their children in school. If you look at a lot of the school lunches,
Starting point is 00:34:13 they are absolutely horrible for you. If you look at that food triangle that the government recommends for you, it is absolutely horrible for you. If you look at a lot of the fat that's being banned and not used in large supermarkets, that's because of a sugar industry banning it for you if you look at a lot of the fat that's being uh banned and and not used in large supermarkets that's because of a sugar industry banning it for you and then the larger consequences of that are not even talked about what do you see though is you see a lot of mcdonald's commercials you see pepsi commercials telling you to get a covid test you see government
Starting point is 00:34:40 officials telling you wear a mask social distance but that's it predominantly and i'm like where's the go outside yeah like go for a walk get some exercise where's the sleep where's the meditating you know why i always wondered why it is they put psychoactive stimulants in our sodas and i'm like it really is a sweet deal for these fast food companies you get a double a big mac with extra sauce and an extra large supersized fry or whatever and then you eat it and it makes you feel miserable so then you guzzle down a half gallon of psychoactive soda chock full of psychoactive stimulants you better be careful careful tim the the thought police are going to go after you for attacking woka cola now so be careful but no i always i remember when i was
Starting point is 00:35:22 younger i'd be like watching someone eat this really awful food. And they would go, oh, I feel so, I can't move. And then they would take the, you know, the two quart cup of Coke or Pepsi and then chug it. And I'd be like, now I feel good. And I'm like, yeah, caffeine is a stimulant. You know what really blows my mind? You guys ever see those commercials where it's like a really big fat guy. And he's like eating a giant pizza with his friends. And then he goes, and it's like, do you have heartburn?
Starting point is 00:35:47 Take this drug. And I'm like, dude, stop eating the pizza. It's like it's hurting you. Yeah. Non-stop commercials and all these other supplements. Take that. I remember being in Kentucky once and seeing at a diner this morbidly obese family. And instead of like regular like drinks you know like regular
Starting point is 00:36:05 drinks just just standing on their table they had those huge soda bottles and they had an infant baby and the infant baby was obese too and they were literally giving the baby the woke the woke the woke a cola like this because baby i'm like what i just i i lost a little bit of hope in humanity yeah my hope is still there. I'm very optimistic. But seeing that, seeing these really large people feeding their child just all the Wokakola. Hold on, hold on. There's serious problems here. I mean, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:36:37 You know, Michael Bloomberg wanted to ban, didn't he try to ban large sodas? Or did he actually do it? In New York, he banned. He tried. I don't think it was successful. You know, I have I can't say that I think any food thing is bad. I think it can be used in a way that goes against how you want it to act in your body. But at the end of the day, I think that's up to us.
Starting point is 00:36:59 You know what I mean? Like we didn't all out ban cigarettes other than San Francisco, but they taxed the heck out of them. You can't go into buildings anymore with cigarettes. So they found a way. Make it so you can't smoke. Yeah. I mean, I guess it's because it's unhealthy to other people. But at the end of the day, we still allow people to smoke.
Starting point is 00:37:21 You just got to go in the park and not stand near anybody. Right. And then you can have your cigarette. Well, everyone's vaping now, then they banned that right i i don't think look there's a ron paul video we referenced the other day and it's just one of the greatest videos ever did you see this from 1988 oh it's just so good he's talking about the government shouldn't regulate drugs because the government can't make you a good person you have to choose and then at the end he's talking to some guy and he goes he's like the government's not going to make you a good person you have to choose and then at the end he's talking to some guy and he goes he's like the government's not going to make you a good person why does how
Starting point is 00:37:48 about the government puts you on a diet you're a little overweight and then everyone the audience is like boo boo and i'm like but he's making a good point well but they also shouldn't maybe shouldn't subsidize drugs like that's sugar industry the aspartame industry and the high they're subsidized if the court is yeah if the government's going to get involved there's going to be an underground mafia market of people selling large sugary drinks everywhere. Prohibition doesn't work. It never did work, no matter what it is. Every time government gets involved, it screws people over.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Let's just be honest with ourselves. meaning telling you about food triangles that are absolutely wrong, not subsidizing and running with big sugar industries and other industries, not running with GMOs and Monsantos that has a revolving door within the FDA. Maybe without government, we wouldn't have so many people that are so dependent on these chemicals. It's true, but you've got to protect the kids. We used to sell cigarettes to kids. There used to be Joe Camel, the cartoon character, and the government had to ban those because the market wanted to get them hooked early, and they're doing that with sugar right now. More importantly, there was medical doctors
Starting point is 00:38:48 telling you to smoke because it was good for your health. Okay, so keep that in mind, especially when you have medical doctors now, because medical doctors could be bought and sold just like politicians could be bought and sold, and people need to remember that. Let's get into the government stuff as it pertains to this, because we have this story
Starting point is 00:39:04 from, this is from The Advocate. And they say, gay DC newscaster suspended over fat shaming vaccine tweet. Blake McCoy tweeted that he was annoyed obese people were getting access to vaccines. Now, I wonder if they have the actual tweet. He said, let's see. Okay, let me read the story. We'll try and get to the, he says, I'm annoyed obese people of all ages get priority access before all essential workers. McCoy, who works for WTTG, a local Fox affiliate, tweeted Tuesday when most stayed home.
Starting point is 00:39:37 We went to work every day last March, April, May and every day since putting ourselves and loved ones at risk. Vaccinate all essential workers, then obese. This is a really interesting point. Because when we talk about universal healthcare, I actually deeply and emotionally, and I understand that's not logically, love the idea of universal healthcare. Like, just think, you know, look, I know so many progressives that are like, we have to do this, why don't we? And I'm like, I feel you, man. I feel this. Wouldn't it be great if we lived in this wonderful world where everybody was just cured of all illness and where these robots come like
Starting point is 00:40:09 an Elysium and they have these things you lay in and it cures your cancer? I want it. I love it. But we have very serious issues to contend with, the allocation of resources. And in this capacity, was this guy wrong? First of all, I mean, it's an opinion. He's annoyed. Okay, fine. But real quick, he's talking about fine but but real quick it's he's talking about there are people who live certain lifestyles that many would consider to be irresponsible and now they're going to get priority access to vaccinations before essential workers the people who are stocking our shelves and putting themselves at risk i mean he's got a good point doesn't he i think that the the argument that that he's relying on though is this this
Starting point is 00:40:47 faction i don't know what they're called i think it's the there is a version healthy at every size yeah and and they really are advocating that obesity they don't even like that word but obesity is not a metric of health so i think that sense, he probably felt very safe saying that. Right. Because if it's not a metric of health, why prioritize? Now, we also know that the science says that it's a major component in COVID deaths. It's a huge one of the bigger comorbidities is being obese right and age and those are kind of like the magical triangle of you're you're in real trouble if you if you get coveted with these
Starting point is 00:41:32 things but in his defense i believe he might be relying on this argument that you know cosmo just had a cover that with a with a hefty gal that said this is healthy um this is becoming more of a mainstream idea yeah yeah it's literally a woman who is uh we have it right here cosmopolitan this is healthy 11 women on why wellness doesn't have to be one size fits all she's i'm i'm fairly certain she's morbidly obese. Well, here's the thing. I look at that and I have so many reactions. Number one, I was overweight.
Starting point is 00:42:12 So I know anytime something like that happens, you're going to have a ton of people going, she's fat, she's lazy. And this makes me feel like, oh, that's not fun, right? As a person who spent most of their life overweight, that's not a fun conversation that's going to be brought up over and over and over again, which this was when it came out. The other thing is that gal might be healthy as a person. However, I understand this is marketing. If you had a picture of a cowboy with a cigarette and it said, this is healthy, we would all go, they're saying the cigarette is healthy. So that is clearly saying being overweight is not a metric of health.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Scientifically, that's not sound. Now, however we want to value that, I don't care. If you give a shit about this thing or you don't, it doesn't matter to me. I don't think that health is the be all end all of like everybody should be healthy. Not necessary in my view. Well, that's one of the biggest hurdles to universal health care, you know, and, you know, Ian brings up quite a bit because I should consider this more often. But if we're going to say we're going to be allocating, you know, a trillion dollars, you know, in a certain amount
Starting point is 00:43:23 of time period to fund health care, and then you have a lot of people who are morbidly obese, eating too much, not exercising, and riding around on rascals, that's going to strain the healthcare system. It is a metric of health. It does contribute. And so everyone else has to then pay for that. So you'll hear a lot of people say, listen, I'd love to pay more taxes to provide for better healthcare for everybody. But does that mean I'm going to be paying for people and incentivizing bad behavior? Well, in that scenario, would people who smoked be relegated to a lesser tier of health care? I think that's where things get scary because people say, you know, you create second class citizens. Now, I think more worryingly would be if you adopted Bernie Sanders plan, which is to
Starting point is 00:44:04 abolish private health insurance. I'm not for that. I think we need like a base level care. A lot of people say we have it, but no, there's medical bankruptcy. We need a base level care, and then we need supplemental private insurance. But I think a lot of people would argue you can't have universal health care and then tell people they're not allowed to have access to it. But I do think it's a good argument. You smoke cigarettes. Okay, well, then you're going to get, you know, you're going to be pay a premium or something. Maybe the challenge is how many things will we add to the list of detriments in your plan? So let's say we tell everybody you're going to get, you're going to, you're going to pay a 3% tax, you know, per, per year or whatever to cover universal healthcare. And it probably way more than that, to be honest,
Starting point is 00:44:43 but let's say it's 3%. Now, if you smoke cigarettes, it's 5%. If you're obese, it's 5%. If you smoke cigarettes and you're obese, it's 7%. You got to pay more and more and more of your income to cover those costs. Then, you know, what else do we add to the list? Do you drive fast cars? Do you like jumping off buildings? And then you'll find there are fit people who are like,
Starting point is 00:45:00 dude, just because I like riding my bike, now I'm at risk. And then you're just talking about taking the private insurance that already does this and turning it into a government institution and getting rid of competition, which just in the end doesn't make sense. Yeah. And destroying everything and making it worse for everybody by making a DMV-like system. I remember a few years ago hearing a story about a teacher's union planning to put teachers on Fitbits and these health watches. And they had to have a number of steps per day and to have a number of physical activities per day if they wanted their medical insurance. And if they didn't, they wouldn't get medical insurance apart of the larger teachers union.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So I remember hearing stories about that. And that's more likely what's going to happen with the larger kind of technocratic overlords that are becoming our rulers of our daily lives. And you're going to have to probably tell the gospel of Dr. Fauci. You're going to have to do five Hail Marys to how beautiful and amazing a government is. Then you're going to have to do probably a mile walking, doing hard labor in some of
Starting point is 00:46:00 the gulags. And then you'll get free health insurance. So my prediction for the future is that, personally. Well, this is a – I Googled it. CS Monitor says – this was back in 2018. A proposed – uh-oh. It's telling me – let me see if I can refresh it. There we go.
Starting point is 00:46:14 A proposed change to West Virginia's public worker health plan would have asked teachers to download a mobile fitness app called Go365 and earn points on it using a Fitbit or other fitness tracker designed to monitor the user's steps taken, heart rate, other metrics. Those who declined or who complied but failed to earn enough points would face a penalty of $500 each year. Does that make sense? Yeah, because they did this at my workplace. So I worked at a hospital and they were able to offer us health insurance at a discounted rate.
Starting point is 00:46:42 You would go in and they would take your measurements. And if you were within the parameters for cholesterol, for weight, for blood pressure, for all these different things, they would give you a discount. So it was subsidized through them and then it was even less expensive if you were healthy enough. If you were over, they would help you find a way to solve your problem. They would help you lose weight. They would help you get your cholesterol under control. And if you weren't able to do that, you would just pay more for health insurance. And now combine that
Starting point is 00:47:07 with the Elon Musk brain chip and we're going to be cyborgs that are going to be ruled by the technocrats. You know that's how the Borg started in Star Trek, right? Everybody knows the Borg. You know the Borg, right?
Starting point is 00:47:17 They're the robot people who are like, resistance is futile. You will be assimilated in Star Trek. Data wasn't a Borg. No, no, no. He was an android.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And so the Borg character in Star Trek is basically it's this big cube they have cube ships that fly around and they enter they they'll they'll see like other you know humanoid aliens and then say your technology and culture will be assimilated into the borg collective and they're all a hive mind of like non-individual the story the backstory I understand it, I could be not a good enough Trekkie on this one, is that they were a regular human-like species, and they kept implementing medical technology to improve their well-being and linking themselves and networking until eventually it formed a hive mind and they became this zombie-like collective that consumes people. So you might think it's silly when Lukeke brings up the elon musk brain chip stuff but they very well could do in the future say listen if you want access to the health care we need to be able
Starting point is 00:48:11 to track your health you need to get the the neural link you need to get the implant you could argue that us being so wired in twitter is like the zombie hive mind already like tier one you know and we're resistors like we're resisting that you know the the whatever whatever faction isn't necessarily right wing or whatever those who resist the mainstream are those like pushing back against the hive mind culture those who just follow along do what the media says don't question versus those who do sure yeah well already we live in a society where insurance companies data mine social media posts in order to deny people coverage on whether it's health or real estate or even cars. So there's already elements of this that are extremely creepy, especially when you look into the metadata that Facebook has on you, that Twitter has on you, that Google has on you, that is absolutely frightening. And when you calculate society to such a controlled level, it is bound to become dystopian
Starting point is 00:49:08 and out of control and something that there's Hollywood movies made about. But when it's happening in real life, people are going to be like, oh, this is good for you. Ethan, did you know that Facebook knows when you poop? I don't have Facebook. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Good man. You do have Facebook, yes. And it still knows? You do have Facebook whether you signed up or not. And it does know. If you're my friend and I have your number in my phone, Facebook has your contact, has your information, has you databased in their system. It's called a shadow profile.
Starting point is 00:49:34 That's not fun. So here's what ends up happening, right? So your mom has you, well, probably listed in her phone as your name. But you might have her in your phone as mom or mother or whatever. Then you've got a significant other or a friend. Your sister has you in as maybe just, you know, Ethan,
Starting point is 00:49:51 or maybe she puts like Ethan bro or Ethan brother or something like that. When they sign up for Facebook, Facebook says, would you like to help? You know, we can help you find your friends and they go, you got it. Now they have your mom's information,
Starting point is 00:50:04 your, your sister's information, your brother, your, brother, your kids, your grandparents, your cousins, all of these other people, your best friend who has your name in his phone book. And that's just off the phone alone. There's other ways they collect your data through going to websites that have the Facebook login. You'll go to a website and they'll say login through Facebook. Facebook has an app that's tracking your data. Right. You'll go to a website and they'll say, log in through Facebook. Facebook has an app that's tracking your data. So the interesting thing is they'll take your phone, your phone number, when you log into Messenger, not you specifically, but someone, and they'll find a phone number that says mom. They'll then find that someone else has that phone number listed as Janet.
Starting point is 00:50:38 They'll then have that phone number listed by someone else as secretary assistant. And now they know, you know,han's mom is janet she's a secretary assistant or whatever and then we can look at the area code so we know where the phone is from we can track its location these people all interact with this person it's happening in this place even if you don't sign up for facebook they collect all that data from other people about you and you never consented to that right so i don't know if they know when you poop, but if you've got Facebook on your phone, they know when you poop. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:08 That's disturbing. What are your social medias that you use? I use Instagram and then I always click the button, so it posts on Twitter, but I don't really use Twitter. Instagram's owned by Facebook, right? So you have Facebook. So I have Facebook.
Starting point is 00:51:26 They know when you poop. Yeah. I use that example because it's the silliest, but still a violation of people's privacy. Right. And you got to understand, they know the other things you're doing. You know, private things at home, in the bedroom. They probably know. The craziest thing is, you might not realize this, but there's little things you do that you don't understand correlates with certain behaviors.
Starting point is 00:51:47 So you might go on your phone and look up, you know, 3D illusion sailboat. And they know that people who do that actually correlate with people who like eating pepperoni pizza. And you have no idea how one day you can advertise that says extra large pepperoni. And you're like, how did they know I wanted that? Well, it's because you did a Google search for a 3D illusion sailboat. Yeah. And there's a weird correlation. There used to be this thing on the website on the website.
Starting point is 00:52:13 There's been this thing on the Internet. I can't remember what it was called, but it was in the in the late 90s, early 2000s. And they had a series of tests. What they did was they asked men and women random questions. And then they found a pattern in answers that the answers women would give and the answers men would give. So one of them was choose choose one of the one of the below, like choose one of the objects below. And it would be like a roller skate, a green circle, a picture of a surfboard and a picture of like a steamboat. And for some reason, men would choose one and women
Starting point is 00:52:46 would choose something else. And then what they do is after, after 10,000 people did the test, they find 70% of women would choose this one. And 70% of men would choose this one. And we have no idea why, but with that data, they could then determine whether you are a man or a woman. So it's, it's really crazy how we don't understand you know deep down these differences but with that they can track everything you do they they know more about you than you probably know about yourself yeah i mean this is a real good argument to get rid of my phone i do have a hammer if you'd like to borrow it and we can we are close to the woods we can just give up on society and start a new civilization real We're basically in the woods, man.
Starting point is 00:53:26 The mountains and the woods and all that stuff. I mean, but, you know, honestly, with everything that's been going on, it's one of the reasons why I decided to get away from these cities and move out to the middle of nowhere. I tweeted about this earlier. We have this. We have this story. Let's just go for it. Here we go, everybody. The pod people.
Starting point is 00:53:42 The New York Post says high school band uses individual tents to keep practicing during pandemic it's a bunch of students standing in these are i think are like these are not tents there's something else they're calling them tents but they're like personalized garbages garbage bags they're upright fabric they are fabric they're up you ever get one of those like laundry hampers made of wire and it pops into place? Imagine that but big and you're standing in it. How does the guy playing the trombone do this? Uncomfortably.
Starting point is 00:54:14 I saw a picture of it. Standing at a weird angle. Wedged in there. This is crazy to me that people are doing this stuff. And it was funny because, as I mention this often i i learned from the best michael malice on how to properly tweet you you tweet in ways where you leave it ambiguous enough to where it can be interpretable but you still express your either disdain or support and i said if people are doing this you know this is you're you're insane but you know what at this point i don't care what
Starting point is 00:54:40 you do do whatever you want i'm gonna go over there in the middle of woods and i'm gonna you know to get a little i got a bow i got a bow and arrow we're getting chickens yes i kept saying this you know what i'm gonna go buy chickens i tweeted and then i bought some chicken coops you know we'll get some chickens and i look at the stuff it was funny when i had a bunch of people say like you're so dumb tim do you think the students should spit on each other and i'm like they should not go to school if it's seriously that bad don't put them in this ridiculous this is oh this is so i gotta say i hear this and i think god thank god some kids get to go to school right because in we don't have school in california right yeah yeah but i
Starting point is 00:55:18 understand that too but it's also you don't need to do this like you're you're spitting into a device, and you're standing far away from someone else. This makes no sense. Can we pull up the picture of the kid with the trombone? Yeah, we got it. Because he is extremely uncomfortable. It's amazing. And imagine, and he's also a bigger guy, but imagine paying the state to treat your children like this. This is absolutely absurd, and we wonder why kids have a mental health crisis.
Starting point is 00:55:44 This is a part of the reason. Wired actually had a very good article today that I was reading, and it's titled, It's Ridiculous to Treat School Children Like COVID Hot Zones. and that this is all pandemic theater. And I absolutely agreed with them because there's a lot of preliminary science and statistics and reports showing how there's absolutely very little threat of COVID in schools and children transmit the virus very differently than adults do. This is from last year, though. This is from last May.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Yeah, but still. But it has been true that children don't spread. I mean, let's be real. What's the survival rate for people from the ages of like 11 to 20 or whatever is like 99.999%? Yes. And I guess the argument is, but they'll spread it to grandma. And it's always just like, well, then, you know, keep grandma safe. Isolate grandma.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Isolate, use sanitizer. And I read this really interesting blog post. I can't remember it was a while ago and it was from an older person who said i don't understand why you're asking the younger generation to sacrifice their lives for the older generation the older generation typically sacrifice their lives for the next generation someone who's in their 80s like do you guys remember what happened with uh fukushima the nuclear plant title tsunami hits it radioactive waste and then the elderly volunteered to go into the plant to try and stop the leak and solve the problem because they were
Starting point is 00:57:14 like well we're going to die soon anyway we'll we will sacrifice ourselves for the youth i actually know somebody uh luke and i knew somebody who was older and and lost her life providing tours to journalists in the media top get the word out and explain what was going on in this area like somebody uh luke and i knew somebody who was older and and lost her life providing tours to journalists in the media top get the word out and explain what was going on in this area she ended up getting cancer and so with with you know the utmost respect she was an amazing individual the older generation willing to risk them you know their lives to help the next generations survive this to me is is absolutely insane yeah Making the kids sacrifice their education, their wellbeing, their upbringing, their food, their nurturing for the older generation.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Look, I don't want anyone to die. And I think ultimately it's the choice of the older generation. I want to keep them safe and protected. I don't want to force anybody to sacrifice anything. I just think it's interesting that we've decided as a society that it's better to sacrifice the kids' wellbeing
Starting point is 00:58:02 for a 99 point, I believe for the people above 70, it's a 99.5% survival rate. No, no, I'm sorry, 97.5% survival rate. I just think there's some kind of imbalance there. Maybe we need to address the harder questions about how we deal with this. Maybe we need to make sure that the elderly are protected. I think maybe Andrew Cuomo needed a lesson in that regard that he never got. Not just him, but these other governors as well.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I don't know, man. I just I think these kids, you know, when you look at the masks, you look at the schools, there are kids who are now spending a large portion of their lives over a year not seeing strangers faces, not seeing expressions, not seeing mouths move. When you look when you look in a person's face, you know, you can tell, people can tell when someone's faking a smile. Because a real smile, your eyes actually, you know, smile as well. You smile with your eyes. And even when someone's wearing a mask, you can see when they're smiling the way their eyes move. But what about a kid who doesn't know and hasn't
Starting point is 00:58:59 had the chance to develop those social understanding? They're going to be socially stunted. I mean, it's the most important formative years and we're damaging these kids over this stuff, stuffing them in these tents to play music. You know what, man? If it were me, I wouldn't even go to these schools. When I was 14, I went to high school for about two months and then I just one day was walking to school,
Starting point is 00:59:19 stopped, turned around and went home and that was it. Do you kind of want to hear what it sounds like when they're playing in the tents though? Yes, I do. I wish there was that was it. Do you kind of want to hear what it sounds like when they're playing in the tents, though? Yes, I do. I'm a little curious, yeah. I wish there was a video of this. But you bring up an important point. First of all, that Fukushima trip was insane.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I don't know why I went with you, but we did. Second of all, it's... Hopefully we don't get thyroid cancer. Yeah. Yeah. So that gives me a little bit of anxiety as well. Thanks, Tim. Thanks for reminding me, but still, I try not to think about that.
Starting point is 00:59:47 But when we talk about these school children, you know, a lot of them who do get the chance to go back, they're forced to social distance, they're forced to mask. But they're also, in some schools, forced to wear tracking beacons that go off if they get too close to other students. And they get in trouble and they get punished by standing or walking too close to other students and they get in trouble and they get punished by standing or walking too close to other people so that's the level of absurdity imagine going to a school and your developmental years are authoritarians screaming at you not to be close to another human being or in some instances like in buffalo telling you that all white people are racist you know just like the story that we covered yesterday. That's why, again, I'm a big proponent of homeschooling. Homeschooling networks are something that people should look into. I know it's very difficult for people to raise
Starting point is 01:00:33 children independently, but there's networks out there that let you do this in a way that's very cost effective, that saves you a lot of time, And also lets you be a part of a community. That teaches your children. The values that you believe in. Personally. Rather than of course having a government come in there. And scare the other crap out of your children. I think everybody here seems to be fairly.
Starting point is 01:00:58 On the not big fans of government. Scale I suppose. I don't want to say anarchist. Luke is definitely the resident. When you say government. I just don't feel good. I i don't want to say anarchist luke is definitely the uh resident government i just don't feel good i just don't stupidity like this they found covid in an ice cream factory in china there's news that i don't know thousands of ice cream tested positive for covid that it was living in the fat cells and you're saying that like the greatest comorbidity is obesity where there's a lot of fat cells So that they're obsessed with the air and transmitting it through the air when there's evidence that it's in the food is completely driving me insane. You have to breathe it in, though, right?
Starting point is 01:01:34 No, you don't have to breathe. You can eat it, too. You can get COVID from eating it. Apparently. That's what was happening with this, why they were recalling all this ice cream. Weird. Well, I have not heard that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah. Which is odd. You would think that maybe the media would be like, red alert. No, but Ian's right. Because in China, they do the butt swabs. It's in your digestive tract. You heard about that, right? There's reports of-
Starting point is 01:01:55 I did. I didn't read a proper report. I saw a meme. You probably don't want to. Right. You know, but like the joke I made was, shut up and put on your mask. Otherwise, the butt swabs are next. There's some preliminary reports that U.S. diplomats were forced to get those swabs up there.
Starting point is 01:02:10 You know what? No. I saw that. I haven't seen it confirmed. I haven't seen it confirmed, but I'm seeing some reports right now. You said you know what. Are you saying butt or hoo-hoo? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:02:20 They're butt toxins. Oh, okay. Yeah. So there's reports of U.S. diplomats being forced to do this. Haven't been confirmed yet, so we're looking up. I'm trying to verify this as we're speaking right now. Americans being forced to do it. I wouldn't be surprised. The Gateway Pundit reported on it now.
Starting point is 01:02:35 How are you handling... I'm checking out the sources. How are you handling family life through COVID? You got kids, you said earlier. I have kids. You know, in the the beginning we didn't know what was happening and it was real scary and we didn't leave my house and they i have two kids in college on the east coast they came home uh and we just kind of hunkered down and and then
Starting point is 01:02:59 we figured out how to live you know i think you know as a person who doesn't do well with the imposition of somebody else's rules i also look around and recognize that there have always been rules and the happiest i ever feel is when i'm just trying to succeed despite them if that makes sense yeah yeah so like it's not everything's not the way i want it to be but it's kind of just like a new game to navigate that's that's i think that's one of the smartest ways to look at it too you know that one of the ways i've always treated is i'm not super concerned i'm definitely concerned when we see the rise of authoritarianism i know i can survive it i know that you know i'm clever enough to find my way through the new rules to make things work and all that stuff. I do worry about other people. I also worry about
Starting point is 01:03:48 the principles of the matter. You know, people have a right. People have rights to be free, to speak their minds. And so there are definitely problems in that regard. We have to have like a baseline of when we go too far to not allow something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, totally. I don don't know i think the way i try to think about it is the way i want it to be it's not always going to be the way i want it to be it's never been exactly the way i want it to be but that's fine um i try to give people the benefit of the doubt and go like i i believe people are basically good and that the intention is safety you know maybe not for raytheon i don't know if i i don't know if that's their intention it's kind of the opposite of their
Starting point is 01:04:32 intention you know for the most part i think you have but i think you could look back through history and pick any of the things we call atrocities that are atrocities and go, somebody had in the beginning the intention to keep some group of people safe. Well, look at, what was it, TNT? Dynamite? Those are different, I think. But Alfred Nobel, right? He invented it.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And what happened was, I could be messing this story up. I guess the intention was to help mining. You basically, instead of having people get trapped and you put the bombs there and you walk away and then kaboom. And then there you go. It's been done. And then people were using it as a weapon. And so one day some newspaper accidentally published his obituary while he was still alive and they called him the merchant of death. And so he saw that and was like, is that my legacy?
Starting point is 01:05:20 So then Nobel Prize was created because he wanted to do something better because he didn't want to be the really you know awful nobel prize is quite a swan song yeah yeah but it's like uh you know whatever your intention is for your creation it can go in a wrong direction right no totally i i think uh but i think about that too like the things that I would be most critical of with government. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt and go somebody is – has a concern and they're trying. I don't know that that's always true. It's hard to say that – but even like our economy crashes and burns if we don't enforce the petrodollar. Let's right. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Right. Right. A lot of people don't understand this. You know, this is a really good point because people are talking big right now about Joe Biden bombing Syria. It's big news. We did talk about a little bit. And I tell people, you realize that when the U.S. is going to war in the Middle Eastern
Starting point is 01:06:22 countries, it's not, you know, you'll hear a lot of left-wing activists say, Americans just want to blow up kids and stuff like that. I'll joke and say something like that. Like, you know, Oh, who else is going to do it? America loves doing it.
Starting point is 01:06:32 The reality is these special interests want money and resources. They want to build the cutter Turkey pipeline to deliver cheap gas into Europe, to, to dominate the market, make money, but also offset the prices for the people who live there. It's, it's for them. It's like, Hey, it's a win-win. We get rich. into Europe to dominate the market, make money, but also offset the prices for the people who live there.
Starting point is 01:06:45 It's for them. It's like, hey, it's a win-win. We get rich. They're not doing it because they're mustache twirling villains who are like, let's blow up a country. They're saying, I want something that's going to benefit my team. Yeah. And they're willing to do horrifying things to do it. And I look at that.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I'm like, I am not interested in funding you blowing up and destroying a country so you can get cheap gas into Europe, man. I'm not in favor of that. Yeah. Listen, morally, I'm not in favor of it either. But when we think about stuff like health care and you're a proponent for universal health care, that's not possible. Idealistically, I am. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Not possible if we get rid of if if we say hey we're pulling out of the middle east right our economy crumbles it implodes it's done so all of these plans that are being argued about in america are kind of like you know none of it survives without those wars well in terms of getting the oil, you know, in a lot of these countries, but we're also producing what poppy and opium in Afghanistan. So it's about control and a lot of things. I'm not entirely convinced, though. I think one of the big arguments we saw through the Trump years was how about we focus on
Starting point is 01:07:58 energy development in this country? That way, we're not reliant on that. And we became energy independent. So we didn't need those wars anymore. And then we got the Abraham Accords. These are things that I think are good. And before AOC came out with it, I was a huge proponent of the Green New Deal. I made a couple of different segments where I was like, I like this. You know why? Before they actually put the bill out, it was like, would you like to invest government resources and taxpayer dollars into advancing green technologies to make the
Starting point is 01:08:25 United States more environmentally friendly and energy independent. And I was like, that sounds like the coolest thing ever. And then they actually released the Green New Deal. And it's like, would you like social equity to give women of color access to college and health care? And I'm like, look, I appreciate the attempt to help people, but please don't use my ideals for environmentalism to push your critical race theory, because I'm not a fan of that. And the Green New Deal became about changing the economy and not about developing this technology. So it was like a slap in the face to people who actually thought we got a good thing going. And then the people who are supposed to be proponents of this
Starting point is 01:08:59 environmental technology, like I seriously, the second page of the bill was was all critical race theory, social justice had nothing to do with the environment we're going to provide college and health care and i'm like wait wait wait what i thought we were going to build a fusion reactor reach ignition man and then we're going to have flying cars is there anybody trying to do that they're doing fusion there's a lot of people working on it jpl is working on it yeah but we've not my understanding is we haven't reached the ignition phase is that what is where i not. Where the fusion happens and then the reaction outputs more energy that's put in. So like, you know, ignition like a fire. Well, another thing to really kind of consider here is that the U.S. dollar is going to collapse inevitably, especially with its money printing, especially with its money supply.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And there's some people arguing that if we end the wars in the Middle East and this reckless spending, that the debt wouldn't be as high and we would postpone this inevitable collapse because we are already indebted to such a way where it's impossible to pay back. And this is something that, of course, is going to fall in on itself eventually okay but i have a question we're able to rack up so much debt because the trading of oil is predominantly done with u.s dollars around the world yes so that offsets our ability to incur debt yep if we pull out we can incur no more debt right and all the debt that we've incurred collapses on us it's so it's not even necessarily about getting the oil it's just about saying you must use dollars yes this is a system put in by henry kissinger when of course he went over to saudi arabia and this is the larger deal that they have now but we saw trump kind of throw a wrench into a little bit one he was brutally
Starting point is 01:10:42 honest he was like yeah we're in syria we're stealing their oil. Yes, we're giving Saudi Arabia the weapons because we want money. They pay us a good deal. But also, he also had a big priority on energy, where America became the number one energy producer in the world when Donald Trump was in power. So yes, it's pretty much run through the military-industrial complex. But when you look at the larger kind of foreign policy mishaps, not just the chaos, but the money spent, they don't serve any purpose. And in the long run, in my opinion, they're going to be hurting the United States because they could enforce the trading of oil on the dollar in many different ways. But entangling ourselves in Afghanistan and spending so much money there recklessly and just wasting it away is not going to ensure that. But, Ethan, hit the nail on the head.
Starting point is 01:11:33 We can rack up as much debt as we want so long as we force everyone to buy oil with our dollars. So I have this image. But that's kind of, like, I want to say, no war. Morally, I go, this war doesn't make sense to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Morally. But I recognize at the same time, what happens here if we're not doing that? This is a really good point, man. I'd have no problem living in the woods. You know, there's this joke, I will not live in the pot. I will not eat the bugs. And I'm like, well, hold on. I'll live in the pot and I'll eat the bugs.
Starting point is 01:12:03 You know why? Because my pot is going to be up in a tree right next to a nice little river where I'll go fishing and periodically eat bugs. I got no problem if I had to live in the wilderness and learn to survive and actually work hard to survive. I actually respect that and I would enjoy it. I love being out and walking through the woods and uh i love that feeling of accomplishment in these things it's it's cool till you cut yourself sure we'll have to learn how to
Starting point is 01:12:31 make alcohol and all that stuff but here's the point it's really easy to say you know what fine no war let the petro dollar fail and then so what what's the worst that's going to happen americans are going to have to learn to survive again that's not the worst that'll happen well i'm wondering no no no the worst that'll happen is that china will take over and then within a matter of time you living in the woods thinking you're minding your own business will eventually be under a global authority of chinese rule i'm thinking that the u.s dollar will collapse and that the bitcoin will become the new currency of the united states and there'll be a whole uprising of a wealth class that were like 20-year-olds, you know, five years ago.
Starting point is 01:13:08 No, I mean, we're in the meme economy already. 14-year-olds in 2010. Can we talk about this, though? Because I have a question. 92 or 4% of all currency on Earth is digital. Yep. Did you guys read that the Fed had a glitch? Yes.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yesterday. Was it yesterday? Yep. And $3 trillion didn't get moved around correctly. So how is it that we don't wind up with some kind of blockchain currency? Well, they're working on Fed coin. Okay. Who?
Starting point is 01:13:36 The government? Yeah. The Federal Reserve, I believe, is going to make a crypto. You know, I had this question. You know, you bring this up. It's interesting. I read this story the other day. Fed glitch shuts down wire transfers, deposits and other services it was an operational
Starting point is 01:13:47 error and i started laughing i'm like is is the is it collapsing like is this the end they forgot their phrase key yeah but here's the thing i asked like how how does your bank know you have money when i go to the bank when i go online and use use a credit card, when I spend money from my bank, there's no actual money being transferred anywhere. Someone just writes a number down in a book and then someone writes a different number down in a different book. There's never really any currency. It's the interesting thing about all this is that cryptocurrency is actually a cryptographic code that can't be stolen. I mean, if you can break the cryptography, you can totally unwind the network, the blockchain. But the idea is because it's an encryption,
Starting point is 01:14:32 you have your private keys, there's a public key, and they can't replicate what you have without the private information. It's remarkable technology. With banks, they just take your account and they write, he has money, and that's it. And the Federal Reserve can go offline, which we saw yesterday, which is absolutely insane. We have a central node where everything goes, all the money, and if it goes down, the entire industry is wild.
Starting point is 01:14:58 It's a fiat system with no market cap and only backed by the military-industrial complex. But again, back to the other point here, we don't need to make blunders. We don't need to make mistakes that waste money in order to push the dollar on the world stage. There's other ways to do it. China, what they're doing is kind of a different way with their Belt and Road Initiative, diplomacy, trade, investment, where essentially they're in proxy becoming new colonizers, as they were described to me in Africa, with them buying up all the natural resources,
Starting point is 01:15:32 all the national property. And China also is building their own cryptocurrency, which they're going to be using as a global currency. Right. But think about that. You were making the point earlier that the petrodollar is paramount. But what happens when the fed collapses i mean yesterday was nuts like it just stopped working what happens when china launches a crypto or they heavily invest in bitcoin gain access to the most powerful and dominant crypto uh currency the petrodollar will be meaningless yeah i also worry about uh the u.s trying to figure this out simply because when you see them roll out big, like California alone had $50 billion worth of fraud on the loans.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Yeah, PPP or whatever. PPP loans, whatever it was, $50 billion just for California. I just, I don't mean to be so hard on the government. You know, unfortunately, the thing they do best is war they don't they don't seem to have these big programs down that they can roll out um like the the health care website was a disaster and it's crazy you know there were all these glitches with the payments and stuff. So I do worry that if they try to do some kind of a blockchain currency, that I don't think it'll be the best one. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:59 To add to your point, there's this famous meme, and it says, under anarchy, warlords would take over. And it's a photo of all the presidents sitting together of the United States. So just to add to that point. But yeah, I mean, the government is largely inefficient, bureaucratic, bloated, and can't get simple things done. They can't even mail you a check for, like, when Donald Trump did it, for how much was it? Was it $2,000? No, the first one I think was a grand, wasn't it? I forgot exactly how much. But the government couldn't even effectively send everyone a check. They sent non-citizens checks in other countries dead people were getting checks yeah what makes
Starting point is 01:17:28 you and it was even in even different intervals if you were a different rank based on this classification and this irs code you would get it in september some people would get it in june and it was all over the place i gotta be honest with you uh I really don't see the purpose in sending everybody a check. I personally didn't need a check. Yeah. Why did I get a check? You know, if you want to be nice, give me a little break on my taxes or whatever. But like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of giving people money, stop stealing it.
Starting point is 01:17:58 You know, that's not a crazy idea. They didn't give everybody a check. There was a there was a income limit. Okay. And I think one of the problems right now is, you know, Biden is saying we're going They didn't give everybody a check. There was an income limit. And I think one of the problems right now is Biden is saying we're going to give $1,400, not $2,000 because it's supplemental to the $600 you already got. And it's going to be means tested, meaning only people who make under a certain amount. And then you start to lose it. I disagree with that.
Starting point is 01:18:19 The problem is I'm not a big fan of the printing money. I think it's going to be detrimental in the long run. It's going to cause inflation. It's going to be detrimental in the long run. It's going to cause inflation. It's going to be extremely damaging. But so long as the American people are borrowing from themselves, okay, well, I guess we have to because the economy has been grinded to a halt. The government did it. It's the government that caused the economic shutdown.
Starting point is 01:18:44 And now instead of giving people access to resources to just – the money doesn't make the system work. It just kind of kickstarts – it lubricates the economy a little bit. They're not going to give everybody the amount of money they actually need to get the machine moving again. So I actually think if you make more money, you should actually get more money. You know why? Let's say before the lockdown, you're making $70,000 a year. You dedicate, you built your lifestyle around your earnings. If you were responsible, you had a bit of a savings and you weren't living
Starting point is 01:19:09 down your means. So let's say you were paying rent, you had your medical bills and you had insurance and you had a cell phone bill, all budgeted for your income of 70,000. Economy stops. You go to zero. You've got, you know, let's say you've got $3,500 in bills every month or something like that. And then someone else was making $30,000 and they budgeted their life for $30,000. So their bills are about $1,000 a month. Then the government says, I'm giving both of you $1,000. Well, the person whose life was at $70,000, and that's not, I think was the average income
Starting point is 01:19:41 in the United States, $86,000. The median, I think, is like $68,000. So we're talking about an average person now having their life completely destroyed, losing their home, getting kicked out because they can't afford that small check. I'm not necessarily saying definitively give rich people more money. I'm just saying we need to consider the fact that someone who makes $70,000 a year is not a rich person. But they have different needs than someone who is making $30,000. In fact, maybe the answer is just give everyone more money, even the people who are making $30,000. I don't think it makes sense to start taking it away from people just because they were making $75,000 or whatever.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah. Listen, all this money is balanced, again, by the external dollars that are kind of keeping this and and we're going to reach a point where we have now put too much inside and it's going to tip it and it's going to be a disaster i don't know if you guys have seen this chart we really got to get some monitor set up so you can see it yeah but it's the uh it's the m1 money stock going back to 1959 so this is the amount of dollars and other like basically it says billions of dollars seasonally adjusted uh monthly from 1959 till today and from 1960 until uh about let's say about 2000 it's just a very slow and steady going you know so it's decades then at 2008
Starting point is 01:20:59 it goes up a little bit the frequency of the production of money increases. 2020 happens. And you know what the line looks like? It goes straight up. Wow. Just straight up. Here's what it says. In December 2019, $3,978 billions of dollars. And then in about February to March, it starts to hockey stick. And then from April to May, it goes up more.
Starting point is 01:21:27 And then from April to May, it jumps dramatically. Now, some people have pointed out that they changed the way they calculate this in May, and that may contribute. But there's also other charts, the M4 money stock and other charts from the Financial Times showing, regardless of the way they changed it, the same thing happened. They started mass printing money with these stimulus checks. And we went from, you know, in March, 4,000, what was it? 4,257 to, what do we got here? July, 16,803. So it, what, quadrupled? And now it's at 18,105 billions5 billion in the M1 money stock.
Starting point is 01:22:06 I'm not an economist. I can't tell you the nitty-gritty of the M1 money stock. Some people have said it doesn't necessarily matter because it doesn't – it's just money in circulation or something like that. But I'll tell you this. This chart and the other charts I've looked at, many people are pointing out it's unprecedented, and we have no idea what's going to happen when you dump that much money into the system. I have some idea,'s going to happen when you dump that much money into the system. I have a some idea. LOL. Do you remember Weimar, Germany?
Starting point is 01:22:30 Yeah. Shuffling the Deutsche marks into the gutter. You ever heard of Zimbabwe? Yeah. Venezuela. What did they say in Brazil? What did they say that happened in May? They changed the way they did.
Starting point is 01:22:42 You have more data about the way they changed. They measure the M1 money supply in May? Yeah, it's like... I don't want to read the whole thing. It just says before May, it consists of currency outside the U.S. Treasury, Federal Reserve Banks. Let's see. I wonder if there's just an easy way
Starting point is 01:22:58 to look at what the change was. I'm not entirely sure the difference is that much. So let's see. Demand deposits at commercial banks. Where's the first change? Okay. Beginning May 2020. It doesn't look like...
Starting point is 01:23:14 I'll have to read through it. It seems oddly insidious that they would change the way they do the measurements in May of 2020 after they printed $12 trillion. So they went from $4 trillion now to to 18 trillion of liquid money in the supply. Well, some people are saying, oh, no, no, no, it only looks that way because they changed the way they calculate it. And I'm like, the hockey stick started before May.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Yeah, certainly. It was February to March, March to April, April to May, and then May to June is not the biggest spike. So they say, oh, but at the beginning of May, yeah, right, May to June is where we should see the biggest spike, right? You know what else is up about 400%?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Bitcoin. What was Bitcoin in the last change? Wow, it really is. In November, it was 13,000. It's almost exactly. Isn't that crazy? And that was November. What was it last January?
Starting point is 01:23:56 Look, give us the talking point. What was the meme? For? For Bitcoin. You said, remember what you said? I forgot. Don't make me say it. Say it.
Starting point is 01:24:03 If you bought bitcoin instead of toy story oh yeah yeah yeah yeah if you bought a bitcoin instead of toy story 3 the dvd you would have 10 million dollars say that yes that's so rude yeah the dvd came out in 2010 amazing 10 million dollars 10 million dollars and i don't know what it was what bitcoin was in january last year all of you people who bought toy story 3 on dvd how dumb do you feel good movie you should have been you should have been psychic and known to buy an obscure obscure computer program digital concerns currency that no one knew about one of my favorite memes is from the early uh 2010s and someone was like this bitcoin seem this Bitcoin thing seems interesting. What can I do with it? And
Starting point is 01:24:47 then someone said, buy drugs and hire assassins on the internet. And that was their like, why would I buy it then? But all of the ANCAPs, the anarcho-capitalists were like, wow, count me in. And now a whole bunch of them are rich. March 12th of 2020, Bitcoin was $4,857. So it's up a thousand. It's up like 1,200%. Everybody's seeing this. They're seeing the mass printing of money, and they bought Bitcoin. Yeah, even the banks. Yep. Even the banks. Big insurance firms.
Starting point is 01:25:15 I think they're prepping for a total economic reset or transition to Bitcoin. Well, you know who won as the biggest holder of Bitcoin, right? China. Well, they were the biggest miners of Bitcoin. We should probably do an audit. Someone should. I think they already did where all the Bitcoin that was mined in China went, because that would be a very interesting perspective.
Starting point is 01:25:35 There's also a lot of talk about a lot of whales having a lot of control of Bitcoin. That's one of the talking points that a lot of the alternative cryptocurrencies are making so uh again a lot of people are also saying and i've been saying this from the very beginning uh bitcoin could be a nsa honeypot from the very beginning could be uh we don't know i don't have any evidence to prove that i said this very you know well i said this very early on but i've maintained this bitcoin is completely trackable every transaction is tracked and they have ai that know exactly who's spending what so we've seen all these stories where they're like we know the far right is spending money here and doing these things and here's what they bought because they
Starting point is 01:26:14 can track every account in the blockchain so they know what you're doing they can't on monero right monero is cryptocurrencies they can't yeah right right that's why monero jumped in value because it was like oh i can use this and it's untraceable it's also why i got pulled off bitrex last month for americans well yeah for americans how yeah insidious there's that word again wow they want to know when you put in facebook they want to control you they want to know every little thing about you so but maybe that's good because people what is this the panama papers where they were storing all that money overseas no no you misunderstand, no. You misunderstand. And it broke?
Starting point is 01:26:46 You're right, but you misunderstand. Do you think- Tracking for thee, but not for that guy? You think the wealthy global ultra elites are going to be subject to us tracking their expenditures? I would hope so. No way. Could you imagine if Epstein was on Bitcoin and we knew exactly what he was buying? Never going to happen. Yeah, Deutsche Bank got a slap on the wrist for unusual activities,
Starting point is 01:27:06 financing and helping Mr. Epstein. It's the rich get richer, the poor stay poor, all that stuff. We know it's going to work. They're going to track you when you poop, but you will never be allowed to know when Bill Gates poops.
Starting point is 01:27:18 That is Mark Zuckerberg off limits. Not allowed. I would need to talk to a blockchain expert to know more about if they could track if it would track everybody does it track the entire blockchain like if someone knows your address they know your transactions but but it's not even that remember we talked about how facebook knows things based on things you might not realize you can look at certain wallets and see all of them as a blind you know know, public key. It's just a code.
Starting point is 01:27:45 You don't see anything. But the computer sees five accounts that interacted with this one account. They know that this account interacted with this account, and they know this account was in Chattanooga. That means if this one's in Chattanooga, this one had to be somewhere near it. Lo and behold, this one interacted with that account. That account was also a few miles from Chattanooga. Boom.
Starting point is 01:28:01 They know what city you're in. They're probably laundering through wallets. Well, oh oh definitely a lot of people launder through walls but what i'm saying is an ai can look at a big a big list of all these different hash codes and see something a human can't they can see location data they can see everything because it's all connected they only need one key right so imagine a sudoku puzzle. You've played Sudoku, you guys know? You need a few clues, and then you can solve the puzzle. For those that aren't familiar, it's like, you know, it's a 3x3 grid,
Starting point is 01:28:32 and you gotta do 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and you can only have one digit in each row, and you gotta figure out where it is. You give someone a few clues for a few starting numbers, and you solve the puzzle. A supercomputer's gonna look at the Bitcoin blockchain, and they're gonna have just one teeny bit of information. This account is a high volume account in New York City. And from there, they can find out who else is in New York City. They can create
Starting point is 01:28:57 a data visualization because this one wallet only interacts with 50 accounts in New York and only a few others outside of it. Therefore, the person's likely in New York City. Then they can look at who's interacting. They can see that person and they can create an entire heat map of geographical locations to the best of its, you know, like with high probability. They'll know who you are, what you're buying, where you're going, what you're doing, everything. They've already done it with the far right. And they've said, we know who's donating and who's donating to who and they they published it they were like this french guy has just given a million dollars to this alt-right guy and they they they just know because they can look at the wallets
Starting point is 01:29:34 they know the moment you say hey here's my key send me bitcoin they know who you are they know where you are they know what your wallet is and they can use that information to figure out who the other people are that you're transacting with. So they got it. Bitcoin is giving that information out. Yep. Welcome to the nightmare dystopia, I suppose. But at least you'll be rich if you bought Bitcoin early.
Starting point is 01:29:56 So like would it be – I'm trying to think of like the U.S. Who pays the U.S. military? They're paid in dollars right now. If they start paying them in Bitcoin, that means the people with the Bitcoin are going to be running the military, not the U.S., not the taxpayers. I don't think we're anywhere near that happening though and and and another point to put out is you could pay them in bitcoin and then when some like 21 year old with a few thousand bitcoin who's super rich shows up and he says i'm gonna control the military because i have all the resources they pull out their gun and say no you're not but what if he's like just i'll pay you three times as much to do the same work for me the the the special interest says we are legally allowed to cause physical harm to your
Starting point is 01:30:30 body try it yeah do you know do you know uh what was the chinese guy though and yeah let me introduce you to a guy named muammar gaddafi what was he trying to do he was trying to create the gold dinar and african Union currency that would trade amongst itself. What was Saddam Hussein trying to do? He was trying to sell oil on the international market without the U.S. dollar. They're both dead. I wonder. Afghanistan, Syria also made similar measures.
Starting point is 01:30:57 So, yeah. It's what Ethan was saying, man. If you step in front of the petrodollar, don't be surprised when you no longer are alive. Most of the countries that are in the news that are looked down upon or getting crapped on are doing that. Yep. It's like Iran. Yeah. Russia. Cuba.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Russia also. But also very interesting. There was a lot of comments by the kind of establishment types, especially Janet Yellen, Biden's Treasury Secretary, Elon Musk, and also Bill Gates recently that made, according to some people, made the price of Bitcoin go down. Because Bill Gates said that we should definitely get rid of Bitcoin. Janet Yellen said it was extremely inefficient, which is absolutely hilarious coming from the former Federal Reserve Chairman and very duplicitous and extremely hypocritical. Should we jump super chat? Real fast before we do, do you remember that military guy who said we're going to be invading like nine countries
Starting point is 01:31:54 in nine years? Yeah, I talked to him and I interviewed him about that and when I brought it up, he looked like he saw a ghost. Wesley Clark? Wesley Clark. We are changed. Wesley Clark. I play that clip of him saying that he was at the meetings and they told them the plan that they're going to invade all of these countries and he brought it up on an interview with amy goodman on democracy now
Starting point is 01:32:14 they were doing a live segment sitting down talking about it i talked to him and he was he literally freaked out and he turned white and he ran away he wasn't he wasn't wrong he was when i brought it up to him. He was talking about the countries, the exact that you just brought up, that are refusing OPEC, basically, the OPEC dollar. Yeah. Look, and I've had conversations with friends
Starting point is 01:32:35 who say that there are humanitarian things to be done in these countries also, but I think that that misses the broader point that there are lots of countries with humanitarian things to be done but are not monetarily beneficial and i'm i'm kind of a realist because i enjoy living here i have a i have a nice life i i recognize though that for me morally there's a tradeoff. Right. You know?
Starting point is 01:33:06 That's exactly the point I used to make to my friends when they were voting. I'm like, you know, I have a friend who was telling me they're like a lefty activist and they wanted to make the world a better place. And I said, no, you want to make your community better. No, no, no. I want the world a better place. And I was like, you're using a laptop that was made of foxconn laboratory where people are committing suicide and mess and she had a realization that no you're not fighting for the world because while you may be more affected with a laptop it's that that product is is is the result of all this suffering so it's a it's a it's a moral trade-off i do become disappointed sometimes when this conversation becomes the moniker isolationist is hung on it because I grew up in Los Angeles around a lot of left people and there was always kind of an anti-war bent.
Starting point is 01:33:58 And somewhere 10, 15 years ago, that shifted and we were humanitarians and I just don't see that. I don't think of myself as an isolationist but I do you know, it becomes a weird thing. Well let's take a super chat. If you haven't already, smash the like button and don't forget to go to TimCast.com
Starting point is 01:34:20 become a member for exclusive members only segments. Let's read some of these comments. We got Jonathan says, I'm sorry, I'm so angry. cast.com become a member for exclusive members only segments let's read some of these comments we got jonathan galtarini says i'm sorry i'm so angry can someone talk about how biden just bombed syria after all these peace deals we made how does this help any country send my brothers and sisters home leave the east alone i hear you man no i hear you you're not wrong snowboard dan says tim got a new hoodie. I did. Ethan gave me his American Glutton hoodie and t-shirts.
Starting point is 01:34:50 And I said, that looks pretty cool. I think I'm going to wear it. I'm jealous. I don't wear Luke's shirts. I killed my clone today. What does that mean? The idea comes from a good guy slash mentor of mine named Tom Kier, who actually played a character based on him in the television show chance. And through conversations with him,
Starting point is 01:35:18 he has this philosophy that he uses to train combat people, people. He's a martial arts instructor. And basically the point is every day you have to better yourself so you meet to battle a version of yourself that's 24 hours in the past and if you can best it you've won the day and you've killed your clone that's cool i like that all right well let's read so let's read some more wow look at this join my cult says tim looking dope tonight oh they seem to really like your hoodie huh brent seigen says hey tim i mentioned on your stream on the first that my brother grant has watched you for years but didn't
Starting point is 01:35:50 become a member and i asked you to bully him a humbly request you up your bullying and call him out by name so i have a sound bite to play him i assume he has the same last name as you grant seigen why aren't you a member join we'll make we'll make a special account that we can only post kind of just for him to yell at him it's like everyone's like what is this weird thing i can't nothing's happening when i click on it but only your brother will be able to click on it all right let's see mike g says on your vid earlier on gamestop the current market has more to do with current government bond interest rates not gam stonks i am not a cat all right i didn't think you were but all right tons of people are commenting say biden bombed syria biden what's up with that we did not biden bomb syria barely got into it so
Starting point is 01:36:34 what happened what yeah i don't know i didn't i don't know about facilities that were tied allegedly these are the official sources of what we're hearing right now at Iranian linked facilities that were backed by some of their militia. Again, very still murky details. We just got this announcement. What did they bomb? What are the consequences? What are the amount of people that were killed here? We still do not know.
Starting point is 01:36:58 This is nuts, man. He's going to start a war with Russia. 36 days in. Russia also increased the number of troops that they have in the region. So, of course, did the United States recently. And Turkey is also on the border. And Turkey is the big wild card here because they're a member of NATO. And they're in favor of, of course, taking over more of Syria, which the United States is against.
Starting point is 01:37:19 And NATO and the United States are butting heads inside of Syria. And now they're saying they want women in combat roles and they want them in the Selective Service? Dude, this... Timing. I don't know if you'd call it moronic. Liberal economic order of the British and the Americans that are trying to dominate the globe with military bases are losing the plot if they think that the world will not unite against them. This is insanity. It's not that easy, bro.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Well, they won't unite against them. And this is the thing. I've been saying this was going to happen on my independent media channel for a very long time. I said, as soon as Biden's in, it's only going to be a matter of time until he relaunches the bombing campaigns.
Starting point is 01:37:54 And here we are. That's the meme. There's a meme. It's amazing. You guys know the meme of Biden eating ice cream? Yeah. Luke posted it.
Starting point is 01:38:01 It's a woman with a Biden hat screaming, can I have my $2,000 check, please? And Biden goes, yeah, sure yeah sure babe I'll bomb Syria There's another one that says Biden tweeted America is back And there's an image of a Syrian child Saying oh good Oh god with the drone
Starting point is 01:38:18 Being LGBTQ friendly Alright we'll get into a little bit more with more super chats But we'll read some more Cerilio says first saw you in My Name is earl but mad props to you sir for breaking the typecast you are pigeonholed into great surprise guest tim and crew were you pigeonholed i think for a long time uh at the size i was i was definitely cast as a very large person yeah yeah i do and and uh you know honestly it um i probably would have had more monetary success if i'd stayed that size yeah yeah what were the top like three films that
Starting point is 01:38:54 you've done that you love the most um cold mountain is uh my my favorite movie that i've been in but then you know uh remember the Titans, American History X, Blow. Those are mall rats. What's Cold Mountain? It's a Civil War movie that Anthony Minghella directed with Jude Law and Nicole Kidman, Renée Elwiger. Do you do a bunch of location stuff? We shot it almost entirely in Romania.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Wow. Oddly enough. Well, with your weight loss you got one of the most vital roles ever you got to be the podcaster in the movie the hunt yes yes that's right yeah it's a great movie we have another spanky says bring back my name is earl and then his little uh hang ten hand sign please yeah it seems unlikely there has There was a Jason Lee and Greg Garcia, the creator, went and talked to some streaming platforms about doing more episodes. And they got a lukewarm response. Really?
Starting point is 01:39:55 Yeah. I mean, listen. That was a really popular show, man. It was huge. It was very popular. like full house and will and grace and the shows that did come back there was such a huge uh outpouring of like please do this show so we need 43 000 people to tweet right now hashtag bring back my name is errol on twitter with trend and then well you know hey if people really want it andrew andrew says is your flat ground game on the level of johnny geiger you've said you don't
Starting point is 01:40:24 have a favorite skater previously but give me a top three keep it up guys absolutely not Johnny would annihilate me that's that's that's ridiculous Johnny Geiger is probably one of the best flat ground skaters in the world hands down uh top three skateboarders oof that's tough always Rodney Mullen and I know it might be a little cliche to say because he's the godfather of street skating but when I was younger and started skating, I watched Rodney Mullen videos. Me and my friends did freestyle. That's why there's this video my buddy Brett shot 15 years ago. It's Tim Pool skating in a warehouse.
Starting point is 01:40:54 And now it has like 400,000 views. The craziest thing. I'm like 19. But I do a one foot nose manual, shove it manual, kickflip because it's Rodney Mullen. I'm actually going say uh elliot sloan right now do you guys you watch any skateboarding stuff a little bit elliot sloan man he's got a mega ramp in his backyard but it's like a double mega ramp and his videos are some of the best i watched that vert skating and i'm like i wish i could do and i wish i could do just a
Starting point is 01:41:21 front side air on a 20 foot vert ramp. Not going to happen. I'm too old. And then maybe Aurelien Giraud. Giraud. Probably pronouncing his name wrong. But he might be, I think, one of the best skateboarders on the planet right now, if not the best. Just in terms of all around skill and ability. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:41:39 All right. We got J. Manny All says Canada didn't need conscription to get one million people to volunteer in time of trouble during World War Two with a population of 11 million. Very interesting. Interesting. Zach 30 says Frankie Staccino is on Timcast. OMG. Boy Meets World changed my life. Been a fan forever since then.
Starting point is 01:41:58 And watch your journey unfold. Much love. Everybody's gushing over ethan i think that that show was happening before these people were alive i really do i mean i was a little kid when i was on i watched it yeah um but i was barely barely when did it first air i was born in 1996 yeah okay i watched it i enjoyed it it was a staple in my fred savage's younger brother because i was a huge wonder years fan and i gotta say his brother's maybe a better actor than i don't know you guys are both awesome but they were great surprisingly amazing yeah it was fun oh check this out uh no salazar says george romero shot day of the living dead at the same mall mall
Starting point is 01:42:40 rats was shot is that true i didn't know that. Wow, that's hilarious. Watching both sides back to back. Maybe make a short film that combines the two universes. The Kevin Smith zombie universe. Zombie Mallrats. That would be a cool movie. Gordo Fabulous says, screw Mallrats. Here's five bucks for having Randy on. Bring back My Name is Earl. Well, you guys have all tweeted
Starting point is 01:43:00 it. Let's go. It would be amazing if that happened. It would be amazing if that happened. But I think it requires a lot of people. Who owned My Name is Earl? Which network was it? Fox. Fox.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Fox owned it, but it aired on NBC. Really? So it would be a Disney Plus show. I don't know. Disney, you need some more mature content. I don't mean like mature rated. I mean like more content for like the older generation. I turn disney plus and what do we get we get a lot of a lot of kid stuff you know a lot of kid stuff i mean they got they have simpsons and family guy
Starting point is 01:43:33 in disney plus they got to bring back my name is earl all right let's see we got here let's jump to raymond field says so our dumb president already is launching strikes in Syria and is promising action on the second amendment. But remember folks, orange man bad. Oh yeah, I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Biker Bob says, Ethan, are you still looking for a ranchero? I have one from M N I Earl. Oh, for my name is Earl. Oh, those cars were awesome.
Starting point is 01:44:01 My wife would be pissed if I got, that's how it goes. A lot of people are just saying, my cars were awesome. My wife would be pissed if I got one. That's how it goes. A lot of people are just saying, my name is Earl. My name is Earl. Oliver Macria says, oh, my God, it's my name. My name is not Earl. Love your show. Keep fighting the good fight.
Starting point is 01:44:18 Here's a good one. Bobby Bob says, Ethan, your weight loss has been inspirational to me. While I'm still struggling greatly, I've gotten the working out part down. Seeing you is helping me with the mental aspect. Nice. You have any quick, simple, easy advice or is that just a myth? No, no. I do. I think that for me, the most important things that helped for long-term were the idea of allowing it to take time, not needing it to be immediate, and figuring out stuff specifically with exercise that I could do every day and wasn't going to be something that I either wound up hurt or so exhausted by that I couldn't do it. So I now
Starting point is 01:45:02 exercise for an hour a day, days a week and they're they're workouts that i could do forever it's never going to be too much yeah right on let's see we got this one from peric i'll just leave it there jaco disagrees with you colonel david hackworth handled draftees in vietnam and he said they performed well too all depends on the quality of leadership draftees question chain of command more than volunteers yeah i you know luke wasn't it true that the nypd said they only hired dumb cops i remember hearing something about that i don't know if it was specifically with the nypd but i remember if an officer uh scored too high high on the intelligence portion and and it wouldn't surprise me because if you want people to take orders and not question them you usually have to lower the iq of your candidates
Starting point is 01:45:50 yeah uh debased zoomer says ethan your character in my name is earl had sleep apnea do you have it if so did weight loss help i was diagnosed two years ago and have been getting treatment ever since with a c-pap machine It's made life livable again. Yes, I did have it and I don't anymore. Losing weight. Losing weight handled it for me. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Yeah. It's a brutal, brutal thing to have. It's like we wake up at night going, Yeah, you're not breathing. Yeah, but I would do it and not be even aware that that was happening. My wife would listen to me and go like, Hey, wake up. You're not breathing.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Wow. And I was just tired all the time time and i would like fall asleep driving my car because you weren't getting rem sleep like your brain couldn't get sleep because you know that was what's happening yeah crazy it's awful yeah jacob daubinspeck says i work for a company that makes parts for raytheon as much as i don't like the military industrial complex, I really like the money from the military industrial complex. Keep us open during COVID. That's true. You can't deny that. Your business is going to be booming under a Biden presidency. Congrats, I guess.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Black Pelt of Confucian says, Hey, Tim, what's up with the shirt? Ah, so many people are watching and probably wondering why I'm wearing this hoodie. It's Ethan's podcast, American Glutton. American Glutton. Yeah, and so he gave me swag and I was looking at the hoodie and I was like, oh, that's kind of cool. I'm going to wear it.
Starting point is 01:47:11 Because I thought it was the Anarchy symbol. Yeah, yeah. It says American Glutton. The G is open. It's not a full circle. Not a full circle, but I thought it looked cool enough. You're getting there. It's a good visualization. It's almost there. It's almost there. Corey Carlson says,
Starting point is 01:47:26 Hi, Tim. Love you. Love the whole group. Tell Ethan Suplee congrats on getting ripped. Fun fact. The same amount of people have died in gender reveal accidents and shootings as the amount of people that died in the Capitol insurrection. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Did you guys see the latest one? Like a gender reveal exploded and killed. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Make a birthday cake and make the inside blue or red or pink or whatever. There you go. You cut it and like, oh, hey, look, I got a cake. I have four kids.
Starting point is 01:47:50 We never did this. Right. I didn't even know this was a thing. You know, you do. You have a Trump hat or a Biden hat. It's like it's a boy. So wait, wait. Oh, no, that's a Republican.
Starting point is 01:48:02 It's a Republican. Red and blue. All right. let's see. Robert Kindley says you can't go to war with China if you are too busy going to war with with China. Joe Biden. Hey, there you go. And then pointing to his head. Clyde, the slug, says Tim just bought two.
Starting point is 01:48:19 I am a gorilla shirts. Also chocolate covered pretzels. Those are quite delicious. And don't forget, you can get your exclusive hour pillow it is the the first version over at teespring go to timcast.com click shop and you can get the i am a gorilla t-shirt and the hour pillow which has the my crossed out and we are working on the campaign for the official original hour pillow which is just behind you it's a burlap sack full of packing peanuts. It's the prototype. It's the prototype. I am not joking when I say we are going to sell this. Now,
Starting point is 01:48:47 there's probably... It's not a joke, folks. I mean, it is. It is funny, but it's not a joke. And I'm not kidding. I've looked into getting commercials on Fox News, and I'm pretty confident that will happen. I'm pretty confident we're going to sell some. And we're going to have a
Starting point is 01:49:04 hour pillow. It is a burlap sack full of standard home packing pretty confident we're going to sell some. And we're going to have a hour pillow. It is a burlap sack full of Snyder Home packing peanuts. People are going to buy it. Watch. Well, we got to figure out a bunch of regulatory stuff. But I plan on doing this. Not an actual pillow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:15 I just, you know what I was thinking? It's like an artwork. Yeah, exactly. Where is anybody? You know, like Elon Musk has all his money. And he does some fun stuff with like his tweets. But he could literally have a giant golden statue of like, I don know pac-man just built and put somewhere for no reason so glad he doesn't and but it would why i don't know opulence but it's not about that it's about like okay so maybe not that but doing things to kind of like sort of
Starting point is 01:49:39 shake people a little bit like hey wake up live do something make life fun yeah that's why i wanted to do the hour pillow because i want people to be like this is the worst pillow i've ever had but it's mine and i got it i'm excited for it it'd be funny it'd be funny there you go do you know that there's no nft art what is that non-fungible token art what some of it's worth millions of dollars too and it's just written into blockchain. Really? I think they're using Ethereum. CryptoKitties? Something like that. Weird. That's interesting. Cool.
Starting point is 01:50:14 Never heard of it. Robert Galera says Ethan your body transformation video was an inspiration. Exercise has been routine in my life for the past two years. Thank you. Nice. Thank you. Seven Empire says, My man Ethan was Seth from American History X. Looking good, brother. You were in all of my favorite
Starting point is 01:50:29 shows and films growing up. Who remembers Boy Meets World? That's right. Yeah. Ministeroni says, Spotify unfollowed your podcast for me, so it's time I joined this really cool website. I hear they sell great pillows. Yes, they do. Keep up the great work, everybody. That's right.
Starting point is 01:50:46 The best. Let's right. The best. Let's see. What is this? Skills Bot? Nice to see Louie Lastic on the show. C plus average coach. Yeah, that was a line from Remember the Titans. Right on. Yeah, I got into college. John McHugh says, Ian, it's a sailboat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Mallrats references. I'm sure a bunch of the Super Chats are going to be the Mallrats references. I love that movie. Good movie. And Kevin's such sailboat. Yeah. Mallrats references. I'm sure a bunch of super chats are going to be the Mallrats references. I love that movie. Good movie. And Kevin's such a genius, man. Yeah. Oh, I love it in his raw form. I mean, look at this, man.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Curious Mishap says, yo, Ethan, I remember you were my favorite character on that canceled TV show. Would you ever advocate for a continuation of My Name is Earl? I would do it. I think everybody, all the cast has been asked. They all said they would do it. It really is just a matter of demand. I think. I think everybody all the cast has been asked they all said they would do it well it really is just a matter of demand I think I think I should do it I think we I got Disney Plus and I canceled it but
Starting point is 01:51:34 because of you know some controversies and stuff but what are the Disney Plus controversies the Uyghur the Uyghur thing oh yeah and Gina Carano and then I was like the Gina Carano thing was was dumb but the the the Uyghur the Uyghur thing and oh yeah yeah and Gina Carano and then I was like the Gina Carano thing was was dumb but the the the Uyghur thing with the was it the XPCC that was like oof I have a question about the Gina Carano thing because I I just don't know was she a regular on that show yes okay yeah yeah she was uh I don't know if she if you consider her to be a supporting or recurring character.
Starting point is 01:52:06 Recurring, perhaps. But she was in more than half of the episodes in each season, maybe. Maybe not. Yeah. I mean, listen. Again. Maybe a round half. To play the devil's advocate, when you do a television show for a big company like that,
Starting point is 01:52:22 you sign a morality clause. if and it's not even defined if you do something that they find immoral they can get rid of you i did mention this when when she got canceled i did say listen while i recognize i thought it was absurd she got canceled because what she said was don't demonize your neighbor she didn't say anything about republicans she didn't compare republicans anybody. She said they demonize their neighbors in Nazi Germany. I said, but listen, the reason why they hire actors is like you're an advertisement. Yeah. They want to put your name. First of all, they want the talent, obviously. But for certain people, they want top billing. They want people to see this and say, oh, I love that actor. I love the
Starting point is 01:53:01 shows they do. And so you're acting as a kind of salesperson for the brand outside of the acting you do in it. I mean, that's fair, too. You're the actor. You're the expert. Yeah, no, that's exactly it. And if you do something that tarnishes their brand, they're very quickly going to get rid of you. They don't want that kind of drama. The problem is you could drop an ice cream cone on the ground and then people are going to scream at the top of their lungs to try and get you fired.
Starting point is 01:53:28 You know what I mean? Yeah. Obviously not that simple. But the media really spun what she said completely out of context. I think it's a really dumb analogy. But I understand the gist of what she's saying. But no, she didn't make an analogy. Well, the meme, whatever the meme was.
Starting point is 01:53:43 She shouldn't have posted the image because the image was actually from. I think it was the image that got her canned. Right. That I think I would absolutely criticize because I wouldn't post something like that. But all it said was in Nazi Germany, before the government was able to do what they did, they were propagandizing people to attack their own neighbors. How is that different from attacking someone on their political views? Right. She didn't say anything about Republicansans so that was insinuated and
Starting point is 01:54:07 then now people are saying she compared republicans to like you know the jewish people that she didn't do that yeah at the core of the message was stop demonizing your neighbors for what they believe and i was like if someone on the left posted that people would be like that's right trump supporters should stop doing this yeah everyone should stop doing it but i but i think i think it is fair to point out and i definitely did like right away like if you work for disney and you post something that's why a lot of actors keep their mouths shut yeah that's why i think it's rad that you came on the show to be honest there's a lot of people that i know and respect who are like i'm really worried i'll get in trouble if i you know come on the podcast and we talk politics and it's, I don't blame them.
Starting point is 01:54:45 It's really, you know, I'm disappointed for sure. But, you know, I talked about this with a lot of people. It's hard to tell someone, will you sacrifice everything in your life now that there's a political battle? My personal answer is like, I will always stand up for what I believe in. I understand why people might be worried or scared. We don't even need to talk about politics. We kind of choose that path. But there's so many other cool things to need to talk about politics have we just kind of choose that path but there's so many other cool things to do and talk about like health for i definitely
Starting point is 01:55:09 think we need to try harder to focus on some positive things in life as well entertainment like just i mean your your presence your aura and your history like the power of that industry is so i don't know how you would say it immense i mean that's one way to phrase it but like just pervasive it's so like it's storytelling it's one of the most ancient human arts and mass media is you know but it's so it's enhanced it or intensified it you know it's incredibly powerful when when when ethan walked in everybody was gushing and i'm just like it's funny that we can have these really high profile political figures that we listen to every day that inspire people and it's like oh wow hey it cool. Cool to finally meet you. But then, you know,
Starting point is 01:55:47 you come in. And I think there is something really important about entertainment that we take for granted. When I was younger, I used to actually feel the opposite. I was like, we waste too much time on entertainment. We don't focus on the more important things. And now that we've inverted it, and politics has become pop culture. I'm like, can we please go back to talking about movies? Seriously, because we went too far. We want to focus on the important things and we need to have relief. We need to have humor. Humor.
Starting point is 01:56:11 The word humor and human is like intertwined. We need it. People are saying, here, look, check this out. Y-Doc says, bro, Remember the Titans is my all-time favorite sports movie. Shame it's only on Disney+. I had to go out and find the DVD. Like the fact that, you know, we watch these movies and we're inspired
Starting point is 01:56:27 and we feel good. It's, we need to bring that back into pop culture because, you know, I was talking to a, like a podcast network recently and they were talking about politics and news and stuff. And I said, I gotta be honest. Like I talked a lot about culture.
Starting point is 01:56:41 We talked about Sonic the Hedgehog a year ago and Birds of Prey. But when the movie industry kind of stopped and COVID happened and everything went election and politics became pop culture, it got so intense and everyone started fighting. I'm like, there needs to be a split. You know, we need to focus on politics and we need to focus on the things that give us relief and joy to calm down. Otherwise, we're going to explode. Hey, I have an audience question. Sorry, I have to interject.
Starting point is 01:57:04 I'm being pressured by my audience here um i have a friend who wants to know what you guys both like best about michael malice this friend is michael malice i okay michael are you texting lydia maybe Maybe not. So I just want to say. His humbleness. I think Michael Malice has perfected how to use Twitter. Yes. Because nothing he writes is cheap. None of it is super obvious.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Or if it is, you have to be paying attention to him. And at the bottom of it he's actually the most caring guy it's yeah it's really wonderful i love michael malice when michael tweeted i'm gonna i'm gonna say what he tweeted i hope you're all ready what do you think rush limbaugh is saying to george floyd right now something like that i i really like the tweet you know why because it's implying they're both i would say in heaven together yeah in a good place and uh i just thought it was michael knows how to craft his tweets perfectly that's why i said like you know people say like who do you look up to in life i said never really
Starting point is 01:58:15 anybody to be honest but in terms of like in like whom keeping my eye on i watch michael malice tweet and i'm like this guy's he's figured it Yeah. I've not seen anybody figure it out like he's figured it out. It's definite inspiration. I love him. And I'm very excited about his book. Did he just make you promote? So now we're promoting his book. Michael Malice's new book, The White Pill.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Well, not only The White Pill, he's writing The Anarchist Handbook. Oh, interesting. the white pill he's writing the anarchist handbook oh interesting because you know there's a lot of the the left anarchists get very very angry at the at the anarcho-capitalist non-aggression principle the free market right but lysander spooner was around predating emma goldman um anyway the point is there's sanity from all those guys. All those cats had stuff to say that was rational at some point. So he's going to write a really cool book. I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Right on. It's hard work, I know. All right. We got Philip Aboudi says, 584 pounds here. And I have been on opioids for eight years. And the dosage was slowly going up and up until I started to remove carbs, sugar specifically. And I started taking vitamin C and up until I started to remove carbs, sugar specifically. And I started taking vitamin C and D, I think Mg is magnesium, zinc, and collagen daily.
Starting point is 01:59:35 I have stopped taking opioids, dropping from 100 plus milligrams a day to none. Dude, awesome. Congratulations. That's awesome. That's some of the supplements I take. Collagen? Yeah. We promote collagen. Collagen is one of our sponsors.
Starting point is 01:59:43 So always give a shout out to Biotrust. Those guys are awesome. Help make the show happen. Jordan Schaffer says, join the family at Timcast.com. YouTube lost all my confidence in it when I couldn't donate a normal amount easily. Thank you for the amazing content. Y'all are the best. So we so right now what we're doing with the website, we have just like extra segments
Starting point is 02:00:02 we'll do. We reserve the more like the things we're not supposed to say on social media because we can send the website we can swear we do all that stuff but what we want to do with timcast.com but maybe a bigger brand maybe we'll start with timcast.com is actually original shows so other podcasts but even fiction stuff that may be down the line i think we might start with mini docs and man on the street interviews and just get more with mini docs and man on the street interviews and just get more and more content and really you know bring some you know bang for your buck all right chris pivoto says you often say finite resources how much longer until the media
Starting point is 02:00:36 praises thanos 50 concept sell me a 40 year old using the internet for 20 years on a vpn how will my years of past history help my future? The Thanos thing? Aren't they already doing that? The Great Reset? Sacrifice? Yeah. I mean...
Starting point is 02:00:52 Well, they kind of have accepted that the human population is... That there's too much and that people are going to die regardless. So they're trying to, like, get ahead of the curve on that or something? Well, the human population is going to go down, according to many statisticians and scientists, by the year 2044, according to some estimates, or even sooner because a large swap of the Western populations are declining in numbers rapidly. And there's a big, huge loss of sperm count. There's a huge rise in miscarriages. There's a huge rise in infertility.
Starting point is 02:01:20 So the population is dramatically going down in shocking ways that are going to have huge profound implications that i talk about on my youtube channel because this is huge stuff that deserves more coverage definitely but also isn't there something to do with like as uh groups move out of poverty they have less kids yes that's got to be part of it too right yeah well yes that's why western countries and japan are dealing this. But each country is different. China is different because of their one child policy that a lot of establishment elites like Ted Turner call for in the United States. Individuals like Prince Philip and Bill Gates kind of advocate for depopulation as well. So there's a lot of different variables. The population in China might normalize. The population africa is going up dramatically so all right we got ryan curie says hey tim i love your show been watching luke since the old days wondering how you think a right-leaning moderate like myself should go about debating emotional leftists and people who believe everything cnn and mainstream media tells them be nice to them if they get angry apologize for making them angry swallow your pride when i have a lot of conversations with with like my lefty friends and I'll say something, I try to be calm.
Starting point is 02:02:28 They'll get agitated because it's like if there's something they they're confident in, but they actually don't know about. So they'll say something like, you know, oh, I think Biden is better than Trump because he's going to get us these checks. And I'll say, well, it's been, you know, how many 30 or 31 days he hasn't got the checks to anybody. If they get really mad, I'll say something like, hey, man, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you angry. I, you know, I just want to have a conversation. You know, we don't we don't have to talk if you don't want to and just try to be friends. The it's not easy.
Starting point is 02:02:55 It's not it's not super easy because everybody gets agitated. Everybody gets elevated. You know, you know, the tensions elevate. But, you know, really what I do when I have conversations with people is if they go off the deep end and get super tribalist i'll just say something like i don't understand why you're being so mean you know i'm sorry that you got angry we don't have to talk about this because you're not going to solve anything if people are screaming at each other so it just really depends on what your goal is sometimes uh people have told me they intentionally try to have like they'll
Starting point is 02:03:23 keep engaging with someone who's getting angry because they want other people to see it. So one thing I often do is I try to be overly polite in any conversation I have, particularly on Twitter, because my attitude is, look, someone is watching this conversation and they're going to see me saying I didn't mean any harm. I'm sorry. I mean, no disrespect. And the other person saying, F you, you moron, how you're so dumb. And people are going to gravitate towards the person who's nice.
Starting point is 02:03:46 That's the easiest way to do it, I suppose. First thing you got to do. It's proven. All right, let's jump down. Let's see what we got here in the old Super Chat box. Rocket Punch says, Hi, Ethan. Big fan and so happy to see you. Healthy.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Great work, man. Please call whoever can bring back Santa Clarita Diet. That's another show that was canceled too early that I was in the last season of. Yeah, I don't know who to tell, but the creator of that was one of the writers on My Name is Earl, so I think it was in the same universe somehow. I gotta say, I don't know if I have
Starting point is 02:04:17 the clout in any capacity with the audience to actually get My Name is Earl to trend and come back, but I would it would be like the coolest thing ever if like you know it happened it would be awesome and it's just like ethan went on this show and they were talking about political issues and cultural issues and war and then the audience was like we want my name is earl that'd be awesome that'd be so cool yeah what should people tweet i don't know what should people tweet i have no i have no i don't know how twitter works anymore well you know i think if if if everybody told all their friends
Starting point is 02:04:53 they're bringing back so many shows they're bringing back frazier are they yeah they're bringing back frazier yeah paramount plus right tons of shows it's time to come back man yeah it could happen daddy t says tim what's your favorite skate video besides your sponsor me tape uh i don't have a sponsor me tape i never i've never done anything like that i hate filming i just i hate filming skateboarding i filmed some stuff that i was proud of in the past but my favorite skate video um what's it called is it fun by santa cruz maybe not i don't remember i you know i honestly i don't really care for for skate videos all that much or filming i just like uh oh nope sorry easily it's brett novak's
Starting point is 02:05:32 killian martin a skate escalation hands down he's a friend of mine but the music so good and killian martin an amazing skateboarder you guys should check that out on on on his channel brett novak it was one of like a super famous video. It went mainstream viral. So it was crazy to see regular people who didn't skate watching the skate video like, wow. So that's super cool. All right. DJ Medeiros says, Tim, I once read an issue of Popular Mechanics in the late 90s.
Starting point is 02:06:00 In it, there was an article that said all the UFO technology from Area 51 and Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was moved to a base in northwest Utah that's 200 square miles. Interesting. Well, that would be fun to learn about, I suppose. Publius the Good said, Trump did that to M1, just saying. Well, his cabinet, because he was trying to bribe the people who's, I can't say that on YouTube. He was trying to bribe people, who's who's i can't say that on youtube he was trying to bribe people but they still turned on him yeah nate boy uh bully or nate boy why don't you make dual stream to timcast.com so you can just shut down youtube stream and keep streaming on.com for exclusive segment. People won't have to wait an hour or two. Thoughts on that?
Starting point is 02:06:46 Yes. So we are actually working on a bunch of new tech for the website. We're going to be redoing the graphic design and building everything out. And one of them is going to be essentially what you've just said, as well as other technology we're going to open source and provide to other people so they can have the same access as we do. And I don't know if that, what does that make me? I'm like a lefty libertarian, right? I'm going to free the codean.
Starting point is 02:07:06 We're going to make code that can benefit all these other people that they can use on their websites and we're going to give it away for free. And then we're going to start a civilization on Mars with it. There you go.
Starting point is 02:07:13 I guess. Maybe. Yeah, ambitious. TitanTech90 says, I went to high school at Papio South and we were the Titans. We got Denzel
Starting point is 02:07:22 and the original Titans coach, Boone, to come visit when we opened. You look great, brother. Keep up the great work. Thank you very much. Ashley Parrish says, whenever I see Ethan,
Starting point is 02:07:32 all I hear is the tuna, one of my favorite movies. You look fantastic and now if I didn't know it was you, I would never guess it was you. That has been funny. There have been a few instances
Starting point is 02:07:42 where people have been in arguments online saying i'm not me it's just a little weird transformation man yeah i mean that photo from your instagram where it's like you before and then after and you're like standing tall and flexing it's like you look totally different yeah it's like the the other one is you know a marshmallow the other one's a viking warrior you know what i mean let's see uh yeah thinking out loud mentions uh nft crypto art people made 3.5 million in december new art auction today on christie's currently at 2.2 million expires in 14 days so what is that
Starting point is 02:08:19 it's i don't know how it works but it's art tied into i believe how it works, but it's art tied into – I believe they use Ethereum, but it's some blockchain. I don't know how it works at all, but it is – it's a piece of art that you store in your wallet and ultimately nobody can take it away from you. It can't be seized. I mean it works because people want to store a value. I'm saying I don't know how it's fabricated. Yeah, yeah. A lot of art is people buying something so that the money they have sits in a hard asset.
Starting point is 02:08:48 You know, alternative JK says, Oh snap. Shout out to Ethan supply on Tim cast IRL. I was going to say it's Vince from art school confidential, but I'll keep it subtle. By the way, I'm digging everyone's fashion sense tonight.
Starting point is 02:08:59 What, what a Thursday. And now I finished fanboying. Oh man. Rudy C. Winslow says, Ethan, you abused a clown in Vulgar. You were in Vulgar. I was. Dude, I saw that movie and I was like, what the is this movie?
Starting point is 02:09:14 Was that Kevin Smith? It was, uh, no. Um, did you ever see this show um, Comic Book Guys? Yeah, I love that show. It was one of those guys. Wait, is that Kevin and his friends? Kevin, it was the comic book shop. Yeah, I love that show. It was one of those guys. Wait, is that Kevin and his friends? Kevin, it was the comic book shop
Starting point is 02:09:28 that Kevin opened. Yeah. And then one of the guys in that directed Vulgar. Oh. Yeah. Which guy? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:09:37 I wouldn't know my name. I haven't seen him in a while. Yeah. I've never seen it, so I don't know how to describe it. It's like a bunch of guys sitting around talking about comics. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:44 All right. We'll just do a couple more here. Tyler Toth says, hey, Ethan, can you give some insight on working on The Ranch? One of my favorite shows. Cheers. A lot of fun. I think it's this odd thing in Hollywood where sitcoms are kind of looked down upon a little bit because multi-camera shows came out and were so kind of creative and interesting that people kind of stopped thinking well of sitcoms but as a human being sitcoms are
Starting point is 02:10:16 much easier to make and um you live a better life so yeah i mean that's what i have to say about the ranch it was a lot of fun to do. Paul S. says, A My Name is Earl spinoff with Ethan as the lead would be better. And a smiley face. Yes. All right, last one.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Chef Gap says, Love the stream, Tim. You guys, gals, should have an episode talking about Magic the Gathering. No, just political. Well, we're planning on doing a gaming channel and everything, too. We actually got a streaming rig set up,
Starting point is 02:10:44 so we're getting there. I guess the main challenge is we can only work as actually got a streaming rig set up. So we're getting there. I guess the main challenge is we can only work as hard as a human being can work. And we need more human beings. So I will tell you, I think I'm looking now for like two journalists
Starting point is 02:10:55 and probably some developers. But we still have to suss out what the full plan is going to be before we can get to that point. Tim actually got me a little Magic the Gathering gift today. Bob Ross, original art. So excited.
Starting point is 02:11:09 So neat. It's beautiful. One of my favorite artists. Magic the Gathering is a card game. One of the core components are called land cards. And they took Bob Ross paintings for the art on the cards.
Starting point is 02:11:18 And it's got Bob Ross's name and it is beautiful. It is incredible. Happy little mistakes. Happy little mistakes. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for hanging out. We're going to be jumping over to the exclusive members-only segment in a little bit.
Starting point is 02:11:27 So make sure you follow me on all social media at TimCast. Check out my other YouTube channels, YouTube.com slash TimCast, YouTube.com slash TimCast News. We do this show on IRL Live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m., but we are on all podcast platforms. So leave us a good review. Shout us out on these platforms. Give us all the good stars and all that. But don't forget to like, share, comment, and subscribe to this channel as well. But seriously, sharing is the best thing you can do. It's greatly appreciated. And we'll see you all in the next show. But Ethan,
Starting point is 02:11:54 you want to shout out anything in particular, your podcast? I have a podcast called American Glutton, and you can see images of me on Instagram at Ethan Suplee. There you go. So right now I am posting and memeing about the current situation in Syria on LukeWeAreChange on Instagram and Twitter. If you want to support me, you can on
Starting point is 02:12:14 TheBestPoliticalShirts.com and I'm pretty close to 700,000 YouTube subscribers on my main YouTube channel, WeAreChange, and if we could get to that milestone, it would mean absolutely nothing, But I would smile for a little bit. It would be cool. So thanks so much
Starting point is 02:12:30 for having me. I'm Ian Crossland. You can follow me at iancrossland.net if you'd like to see me play video games with my friends as well. You can follow me on Twitch at iancrossland.tv. No, no. It's twitch.tv slash iancrossland. I'm a gorilla. Buy a t-shirt. Oh, yeah. There you go. And I am Sour Patch Lids on Twitter. And go and i am sour patch lids on twitter
Starting point is 02:12:45 and i am real sour patch lids on instagram and gab and sarah patch lids on mines we're gonna talk about some uh hollywood stuff i think in the in the exclusive members only segment i got so many questions but there's also some stuff happening with lady gaga i know a lot of people probably say oh we don't care about lady gaga but this i think is fairly important so we'll talk about this thanks Thanks for hanging out. And we'll see you over at TimCast.com. Bye, guys.

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