Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #235 - DC Rewrites Hero To Gain Super Powers From BLM Protest w/ Ryan Long

Episode Date: March 3, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia invite comedian Ryan Long to discuss DC's ridiculous rewriting of a hero to win woke points, the new law in Virginia preventing police from pulling people over for minor offenses, Amazon's choice to change a logo that strange internet people said resembled Hitler, and Bill Burr's defense of Gina Carano.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know, if you listen to this show, you've heard me talk about one of my favorite superheroes, especially growing up watching the old WB, and that's Static Shock. You know why I like Static Shock as a character? Because it really did tackle social justice issues, but it was like legit, old school, good liberalism about, hey, be kind to your neighbors, respect people, you know, live and let live and all that stuff. And I really liked the story. It was the WB version. It wasn't the same as the comic book version for those that aren't familiar it's basically some kid who gets bullied into joining a gang he didn't want to join he gets forced down to these docks where there's a gang war and then long story short there's a chemical explosion and all these gang

bangers get superpowers and they're all basically villains but he was this kid who didn't want to be there and was mixed up he becomes a superhero well in the latest rewrite for the series, it's now the most absurd storyline ever. He's attending a Black Lives Matter protest. And the police fire tear gas at the crowd for no reason. And the tear gas just instantly gives everybody superpowers. Welcome to the era of social justice in comic books. And I'm sorry. Maybe we should have opened with some like very serious political commentary.

But this is personal because I've talked about how much I really like Static Shock. So we're going to talk about this one. I'm going to get all triggered. But we got a bunch of other

really ridiculous stories. We got, what was it, Amazon claimed that their logo looked too much like Hitler. Yes. And so they had to change it. And it was literally

a cardboard box. Again, welcome to the social justice era of 2020. And apparently now Bill Burr is getting slammed because he called Gina Carano nice. They're claiming like it was this big defense of Gina Carano. It's like, OK, these people are so desperate for some kind of weird angle on all this stuff. We're going to get into it. And I figured that the cultural commentary stuff is probably better today anyway, because we got Ryan Long hanging out.

He's going to make fun of everybody. We do have Ryan Long in the building. So with the Amazon logo looking like Hitler, I don't know if you knew this, Tim, but originally Google, their original name for the site was Goobles. I did not know that. I was like, where's he going? He's already writing jokes. Oh, wonderful. I can't believe

they haven't banned you from just like every social media platform. And did you know, I don't know if you know this, but Social Justice, they wanted to change Himmler in history books to be Herler. Okay, that makes sense. I can't afford that one. When you're referring... Did you write that one a long time ago?

No. I'm off the dome, my friend. Off my non-beanie dome. And they've changed Himmler to Hurler. Hurler. Excellent. When you're talking about the Holocaust and don't question the numbers. You know about the

Sokol squared hoax, right? Where they. What? The Sokol squared hoax. No. Where you had these these three academics basically took a chapter out of Mein Kampf and then changed the proper nouns to be like feminist. Yeah. And it got submitted.

Nazis can be girls. No, but like it didn't say that. It said like the patriarchy is bad and here's why. And then they submitted it to a journal. i think that that one got approved right yeah it did yeah yeah that was those three actual lindsey yeah james oh that was one of those guys papers when they were messing with oh yeah i do remember that yeah so we're gonna we're gonna have to talk a whole lot about uh the amazon logo and the stupid world we live in and i don't know they might ban us whatever because we're talking about Amazon and the stupid things they've done.

Well, yeah, you were going on your rant about Mein Kampf. And before we started, Tim goes, this episode is going to be extra based. That's a quote. No, no, no, hold on. There was an Australian publisher that banned Jordan Peterson's book, but not Mein Kampf. Yeah. Like, that's how stupid everybody is.

All right, but we'll say it. Okay. You got all these awesome jokes written down? No, I wrote the topics down that you told me to talk about. Yeah, he's prepared. He's prepared. Yeah, well, this was five seconds ago. I didn't come with these papers.

I picked them up. Yeah. I picked them up. It's like a picture of a cat. Well, you said eight things we're going to talk about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If we do, if we do. Sure, we can talk about that.

It's a very professional operation that we have here. It is, yes. Tim, where are we at on the Civil War? Because last time I came here, you said, you know, remember, you were like, the Civil War is happening. And then you told me, you go, what are you going to do when the Civil War happens? And I go, well, maybe I'll go back to Canada. And you go, well, you won't be able to go back to Canada. And then you said.

Now you can't go back to Canada. And a bunch of people stormed into the Capitol building. That's true. So, no, but I think— Is the Civil War still happening? Yeah, absolutely, man. I just think people assume Civil War means, like, two people in uniforms marching towards each other. Right now, you've got a call for a commission.

They're calling it the 1-6 Commission to track down all of those responsible for inciting the insurrection. You've got an article today—I'm sorry, a couple days ago, NBC, saying Republican talk of secession has become serious and academics are warning that this time it's for real. Texas just introduced a bill that will allow Texas

to secede from the union and the GOP of Texas endorsed it. So look, I always say this. Maybe it won't happen. Maybe it just stops right now. Yeah, but you have the bunker. Because I did leave. I'm very susceptible. The same reason why I was talking to your crew and they were like dude you need to get

your website more secure and i was five seconds ago i'm like i need to hire a team like i've literally left tim's house before being like i need a gun i need a bunker he got me a jazzed up dude i was telling other people i went back to new york i'm telling people i'm like they're coming for us man what are they saying now now after the storming of the Capitol? Who's saying now? Like the people you were talking to, you're like, Tim was saying this stuff. Are they like, whoa, what's going on? Well, I think that most people in New York probably his take were those guys were bad news.

And we're glad we got the orange guy out of the power, right? Yeah. But as far as whether the Civil War is happening. Well, so it's it's fifth generational warfare it's it's information it's propaganda it's manipulation but there is low tier violence across the country when you know look there's just been more than one instance where like i was saying people assume it's going to be people in uniforms marching towards each other that's that's like 200 years ago you know what i mean we're not we're not that kind of people

anyway that's not what happens so what happens when the civil, like what are examples of the things that they do? New here bank accounts delete you from the internet? Yes. Strip you of resources. So like this is actually based on academic research that came out of UC San Diego where they talked about how it will be removing people's ability to speak so that

the political narratives are dominated by only one faction. And that way political so if you have two factions, two parent factions that are fighting over control of a government and you strip one of the factions ability to communicate, then the only thing you basically isolate each individual so they can't form any kind of cohesive response. Yeah. It's so it perhaps, you know, I would say war might lead people to thinking like in the past. But there was a Princeton professor who said we are in a cold civil war.

And this guy's a Democrat. He's a lefty. I think, yeah, there's a couple of different civil wars going or a couple of different cold wars happening in unison. Probably. It's true. It's a war within a war within a war. So I think gender war. Yeah.

Well, all this stuff is part of like the same idea. But again, I think the problem is when you have midwits you know midwit is yes when you have these people hear the phrase civil war they're like smart enough to engage but they're not smart enough to understand the future well it's also and predict there's also i probably an element of when you use those words to you get to dismiss the fact that it's happening the same way that they do with conspiracies like even you know it's always like oh pete they think that there's these pedophiles in the pizza shop or whatever you know and then people go all these crazy and you're like i mean

they've had nine pedophile conspiracies that have got uncovered recently i mean epstein it's really it's really interesting that's what i mean right there's like you know that epstein is what makes people kind of go crazy when they see this and they want answers and they don't get them we'll get into all this yes this is a very long introduction for you so what

let's do we gotta introduce the other people I'd rather I would rather not introduce him I'd rather talk about Ryan it is not your show

I'd rather talk about me it's Ian's show listen I'm here from New York it's very busy right now. Saturday night. It's not Saturday. It's not Saturday.

What? It's Tuesday. Sunday morning. Okay, guys, we are here with my co-host, Ian Crossland. Thank you, Ryan. Yeah, yeah. It's good to be here. If you want to super chat, any questions for me or Ian.

I want to talk about social justice infiltrating comics because I think maybe Captain America was like social justice of the 40s. Yeah, it was all about fighting Nazis and war propaganda. Is that the history of comics altogether is just propaganda? I mean, everything is, right? Also, I'm excited to talk about the war within the war within the war. The Cold War. The war for your mind and your soul that's global.

Chinese, maybe, and the American government. The national fight. And then the soul. Your own personal war against your neighbor Gina Carano, man, I mean I'm in a personal war against my neighbor The Gina Carano thing is a really good example of this, you know, fifth generational

warfare. It's not the biggest thing in the world, it's just a grain of sand in the heap The bigger conflict is probably at law and stuff like that. But Gina Carano posted an image saying don't demonize your neighbors. She didn't compare anybody to Republicans or to Jews or anything like that and gina crono posted an image saying don't demonize your neighbors she didn't compare anybody to republicans or to jews or anything like that and they just they just nuked her so but we'll talk about it let's let's let's let's lydia's pressing buttons yeah we got a script this guy's ready to go off he's super ready i don't want to get in ryan's way i'm afraid i

will get run over but i'm here in the corner pushing but you work for me now yeah it's true i do i have a new boss uh same as the old boss, it turns out. I have a super chat from one of our people. Tim, how many times have you said the gamer word? The gamer gate? The gamer word? Gate? That word? The gamer gate?

Google gamer word. Gamer word. Oh. Oh. Are you talking about PewDiePie? You're trying to get us in trouble. You know. Okay.

All right. All right. Okay. Okay. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen. We're all canceled. It's only five minutes.

I'll just tell you what. I'll just tell you what. I'll just tell you what. Go to TimCast.com. Become a member. Because I can only imagine what's going to happen when we do the exclusive, you know, behind the paywall segment where Ryan can say whatever he wants. He's going to get us banned from everything even though it's behind the paywall. All the gamer words.

It's that. I know. Ryan. There's more than one? The gamer words? We're going to find out alright alright let's let's let's I gotta read the story

this one this one is near and dear to my heart when I saw the story I was like I don't want to talk about comics and then I read it

and I was like oh how dare they bounding into comics says DC Comics retcon sees static receive powers during Black Lives Matter protest

okay first I was just like all right well you know it's a modern retelling of a comic book story black lives matter can be relevant to this and then i read the the the panels they include and i'm just like this is really bad it's really bad so uh i don't know if i need to necessarily read the uh i'll read a little bit they say a recent retcon to the origin story of the DC comic superhero Static, real identity Virgil Hawkins, has changed the inciting incident that grants him superpowers from a gang war to a Black Lives Matter protest.

Okay, there is so much wrong with this. I'll need to actually read the comic to give you a better breakdown. But let me just explain something. In the original comic, he's basically... he's a good kid, but he's being bullied. He gets a gun and he shows up at this gang war and he wants to take out his bully. He wants to kill his bully, but he decides he can't do it. He starts crying and he throws the gun into the water. But then the police, seeing a gang war, you know, people are trying to

kill each other, fire an experimental tear gas, which caused some crazy reaction. They call it the Big Bang. And then all of a sudden, all these gangbangers get superpowers. Well, guess what? These are not good people, right? Turns out they become supervillains. But this kid who was down there, who actually was an okay kid, just mixed up in some bad stuff, ends up becoming a hero. In the later version, the more recent version, they're all still pretty old, the WB cartoon, Static Shock, he basically gets pressured into into joining gang he doesn't want to join so i thought that was a really awesome way to deal with issues that i know exactly what that was like growing on the growing up on the south side of chicago i knew people who were surrounded by people in gangs

who were like are you joining or not you have you know you have to join you live in our area and they it's called v you get v'd and you get violated and so what they do is they would beat the crap out of these kids who are like 14 or 15 force them to join gangs one dude went to prison because what they want to do is they want to get a minor give them a gun and say go and kill our enemies because you'll get out in four years because they can't hold you until you're 18 so when i saw this show i was like wow that's that's clever right it actually gets to you know like real issues that i think affect young people they don't want to get mixed up in this stuff it addressed social justice issues in a really cool way and it actually told an interesting story there's a chemical explosion the people who are

there happen to be mostly gangbangers mostly become super villains now this kid who gets mixed up in it he's like i didn't want to be here in the first place i'm going to do good i'm going to try and be better my question now is in the in the new version, they're all at a Black Lives Matter protest, right? And for no reason, the police start shooting them with tear gas. So in this comic, the cop says, you know, who do they think they are? Turn around and get back to school or be arrested for truancy. And then someone yells, stop killing innocent people.

And we will. Someone holding a sign that says she was sleeping. Fine, then let them fly, says the cop as they start shooting this tear gas at the crowd. Almost instantly, one dude's skin starts melting off. And the cop is like, is that kid's face melting? And then all of a sudden they all have superpowers. So like, this is the story. The cops fire tear gas at a random group of Black Lives Matter protesters. They all get superpowers. I got I got a question about this. Where do the cops fire tear gas at a random group of black lives matter protesters they all get superpowers i got i got a question about this where do the villains come from well i guess that'd be the police in this scenario sting copeland all of them well no i i mean they are they are they are portraying the cops as the bad guys but it's got to be right but what i mean is the cops in the in the uh comic are all wearing gas masks in the original version it was gang

bangers getting gassed. Yeah. And so naturally, many of these people are not good people, become villains. Well, what do they say? What do they say the villains do come from? I don't know. It just says he's like, I got powers. But hold on. Here's the funny thing. He says, here's what it says. He goes, I don't know what the first panel is. It's just

him waking up saying, which made me stronger, stronger than I could ever imagine than electricity burst from his eyes. Now I could get revenge on all the bullies who picked on me, who pick on everybody. But it turns out they have powers, too. And it's three white dudes. And it's like blonde. And they're bullies.

One guy's like shirts ripping. He's all ripped. One guy's fist is on fire. They had the protest, too. And I'm just like, essentially three biff from back to the future. But does this mean they were also protesting for Black Lives Matter? Yeah. Why were they there?

Because they weren't be there like protesting against it. Oh, yeah. Maybe that's it. They were there. They needed Antifa there. They were also violent protesters that then became villains. But instead, they framed the cops. They had all bullies lives matters.

All bullies lives matters. I wonder if like the angle they're going for is that the bullies are bad guys. And they're like, we're going to rob this bank. And then he's like, you were at the Black Lives Matter protest too, but you're a villain. Well, well, hold on. We may be villains, but we all agree, black lives matter. That's right. That's just implied.

Right. So that's the angle they're going for. Well, of course the villains were there. Even the villains agree. Yeah, it's almost like they chose this topic, but it was so sensitive that they had to sort of illogically decide kind of the rest of the plot line. I just, I'm just. The train wreck. I should have expected that, you know, this is the angle they would go.

But it really does feel like cheap. I'm not trying to be mean to Black Lives Matter or anything. I mean, you know, we've talked about them quite a bit. I've been critical of the riots. But one of the biggest problems with Star Wars, latest iterations, and Captain Marvel and a lot of these new comics is that it's just really cheap writing. It's not clever. It's not good. It's not interesting. It's just really obvious.

It's a dude sitting there with his eyes half closed, and he's like, I don't know. He's at a Black Lives Matter protest or something. Just write it down and sell it whatever you know like it used to be that whenever you're getting propaganda period the hope is that it's good enough that you'll take your propaganda like i'll be watching certain shows and you can kind of tell when it's really getting into that stuff and they're trying to sell you something you go okay and then there's another one where the show sucks and you're like hey there's 12 characters and 11 of them are gay and you're like this isn't good enough for how much you're shoving this down my face so i think the problem is yeah it's it's like anything in any art or songs you know anything you're listening to it's

like you get to give me a teaspoon of propaganda per good amount of entertainment right right and then i think that they are tipping the scales where the the propaganda levels are out of the out of the ballpark but i mean like even so i bet the the argument from the propaganda levels are out of the ballpark. But I mean, like, even so, I bet the argument from the left will be the original static shot cartoon was very much social justice-y. But it was like the liberal kind. I mean, like, philosophically liberal, where it was just, hey, man, don't be mean to somebody for no reason. Don't be racist. Now it's just like, this just seems like, what do they call it?

They call it rainbow washing when you just make something, you know, LGBTQ to sell a product. It's kind of like social justice wash and they're like, oh, that's static.

So it just, I think there's probably so much logistical things too. It's the same thing that happened with, you know, recently we were talking about even this is on Amazon,

but I'm sure you guys cover like potato and all that stuff. But it's like, they basically were like, oh, there's an easy way to kind of get clicks and this your new advertising campaign comes in and they go yo all you have to do is this but then now even on that side they go hey you didn't do it right and then the other side gets mad at them so i think in a lot of ways the the like easy bucks to be made off social justice are becoming harder and harder so you know what i mean they're like oh we'll we'll do this everyone will like it you got extra extra virgin olive oil you got extra virgin olive oil and harder. So, you know what I mean? They're like, oh, we'll do this.

Everyone will like it. You got extra, extra virgin olive oil. You got extra virgin olive oil and you got virgin and you got olive oil. And so it's like the very last drop. Yeah, they're trying to squeeze out the last drop of money that you can get from, you know, saying you've got the right opinions. So I think when you do this, it's like,

I think that you probably end up making a lot of decisions and choices based on things other than what makes sense for your plot. Probably. Have you guys seen the new craft movie? No, it's called The Craft, right? No, I think you've talked about. Yeah. The witches.

Yeah. The witches. Bro, if you want material, you should watch The Craft. Yeah, I'm progressive. I only support male witches because I think that. Well, you'll love it because there's one in the movie. Yeah, of course. Spoiler alert for anybody who plans on seeing this movie.

There's a bully and they cast a spell to turn him gay, I guess. I think that's what happens. And then he gets murdered for being gay. Or they didn't cast a spell and he's like, it was a spell. His girlfriend's like, what happened? He's bringing witches, man. Why are you blowing a dude? Have you heard of witches?

Now everybody who's listening will have a clever excuse if they ever need to use one. No, no. Ah, witches. Dad, it was the freaking, didn't you see the witches? It was a spell. It's fine. He gets killed. But his dad's a witch.

Yeah. His dad's a male witch. Yeah. So anyway, the witch is like breaking into his house and then like they steal some of his you know man uh uh what should i call it reproductive fluids and then cast a spell on him to make him nice and then he like becomes a gay i guess so then his dad has to kill him or something the whole movie it's not a movie i mean fair enough your dad does have to kill you it something. The whole movie, it's not a movie. I mean, fair enough. Your dad does have to kill you.

It goes without saying. The movie is basically just like a woke PSA. And I'm watching it like waiting for a story to happen. It's not there. Yeah. But I mentioned that, but there's also- I was watching waiting for the gay sex scene and it never came either. So both of us were disappointed.

Yeah, yeah, no, yeah. So you're disappointed for other reasons. There's another movie called Spiral. one is oh man we i think we talked about this in one of the timcast segments so you know what shutter is at the shutter like s-h-u-d-d-r it's a it's a subscription service for horror shows and movies no i love horror i love horror it's like my favorite genre i love you know the what is that what is that movie with nicole kidman the others yeah i think that movie's awesome that movie's great and i love old 80s movies i just watched the stuff have you ever seen it no it's where

people start eating trash out of the ground but then it turns out it's like you know a lot of funks it's what they're eating people yeah so so there's shutter has this film called spiral and it starts with an interracial gay couple who have a daughter and then they move to a new town no i'm fine i don't i don't care about that i don't i don't care about static being in a black lives matter protest i care about the story making sense well how are you going to have super villains if like how are the bullies were they at the black lives matter protest like what's going on i guess right so anyway i'm watching this movie and i'm like i didn't i didn't really think twice about the interracial gay couple being you know the characters i was just like it's 2020 man you know i was like whatever but then very early on

you get a glimpse of what the movie is i'm just gonna spoil the whole movie for everybody if you're a subscriber to shutter well you know too bad witches witches it turns out which is again there are immortal white people who explain that they choose minority and marginalized families on purpose to frame for murders so that they can sacrifice them for immortality and then in the end the bad guy is like there will always be people to fear and no one will ever believe you and i'm like you gotta be kidding me dude like like you said you can give me a teaspoon of propaganda for every you know every cup of entertainment i get that was the whole thing was propaganda i liked uh the 100 i like i honestly thought that show was kind of good but by the end they so everyone's a lesbian

right there's one of those shows where like all the all the everyone all the leaders are women and they're all lesbians and all of the women are the best fighters and it's sort of like a sci-fi thing but then they give the backstory and they just came on a spaceship and there's like they don't give you any logistical reason why in this world the women like it's not oh they're like Amazonian women. It's just like normal women and for some reason the women are better fighters than guys.

They don't explain and you go, okay, whatever. Yeah. You just have to be like, these fight scenes better be sweet, dude. I watched a really good,

there was a video explaining why Captain America and Captain Marvel are like totally different. Like Captain America's good. Everyone loved it. Captain Marvel, like people kind of like

groaned at it and some people kind of just accepted it and they explained that one of the issues is you know like early on in captain america they explained to you steve rogers captain america is a weak guy he's weak but he's willing to stand up he's a scrawny dude getting beat up outside of a theater and it established yeah they have to give you that like establish your world i'll believe your world but you just have to give me an explanation even if the explanation is stupid they go oh he stepped in a puddle that gave him this you go okay like you

just right otherwise you go it doesn't make sense in your context but in this in this context what they're basically saying is you know who steve rogers is he's not the strongest guy but he's willing to stand up and defend himself no matter what with and then he eventually gets superpowers and then you see this guy of really good moral character who wants to protect people. It's consistent. Now is powerful and says, I'm going to do the right thing. Whereas Captain Marvel is, she's always strong. She's always been the best.

And the man, like there's a guy. Yeah, there's no, they've completely removed themselves from any hero's journey. All of these like woman power movies basically became Steven Seagal movies where there's no adversity. Like they start out and she's just like, ready to kick some ass and then she goes beats up everyone and then you know it's like there's there's there's no even point where she wasn't going to potentially make it this is this is the problem i guess with modern the modern version of i guess gen z storytelling it's probably millennials who are writing these comics but think about this if if you've got let's take a look at the Black Lives Matter narrative, right? They're doing a

comic where they're like telling the cops you're killing innocent people. Well, that's a gross oversimplification of what's happening. The cops are immediately the bad guys who fire on them for no reason. In Captain Marvel, she's actually the bad guy. In the beginning of the movie, some guy in a motorcycle tells her to smile so she steals his clothes and his motorcycle presumably just leaves him like nude in a parking lot wow yeah that's like when that happened i was kind of like dude i don't want to root for this character some guy made a snide comment so she robbed the reason for it like i i find this even when i'm writing stuff and especially when i was like doing more traditional stuff there is this thing of like

you're not supposed to say this about this person you're not supposed to say this about this but like so if you're gonna make people protagonists they need you know bad qualities and good qualities but there's this sort of thing like if you're gonna write a woman they're like oh we'll make her shitty and you're like well you can't make women bad like that's bad for women we're just gonna make a woman character and like yeah here's our hero she's like can't critically think uh you know no you're like what do you's like can't critically think uh you know no you're like what do you mean you can't make we need strong women characters with no flaws well that's well that's not really a good story that there's no flaws think about do you see what

happened with wimix in the other day no but how about that for uh that's how i get my superpowers is i'm at the women's march when some yes i, I love it. Yes. And then the police fire tear gas at them? Yes. For no reason? Police fire tear gas at the women, but it didn't need... It turns out they... Well, they thought they fired tear gas.

Turns out they were just already crying because of the whole women thing. And it was their love for the fellow man that granted them superpowers. Yeah. That's what it was. So I'll tell you the one last thing. This is a joke,

but I said that what happens at the women's march is they all march from one side of the city and halfway through they forget something and go back uh yeah that's it and they gain superpowers they all forget something and at the end it was their superpowers and i donated money to the women's march i hope they find a cure okay all right wait so so do you see that do you see you see the wimixin thing with Twitch? No. Tell me about this. Twitch put out a video where they were like, we want all Wemixin to be supported. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. No, of course. And the left got really mad. It was like. Yeah, they got fired up. And then they issued an apology being like, our bad. Yeah. We didn't realize that, you know, calling you Wemixin, we thought it was inclusive. You're making this very hard to pander to you right now.

No, but think about that. Think about they're like, OK, we're going to make make a movie we want to get feminists and women to come watch so let's do the hero's journey and they're going through the script and they're like let's make it very much like captain america everyone loved that one well we can't make her weak correct like steve rogers was a scrawny weak guy in the beginning okay well we'll just have her be strong but how do we then establish her journey? Amnesia. She's always strong,

but she has amnesia. That's what they did. That's the movie. That's the movie. And then they do this thing where they're like, okay, what's her conflict? Her Achilles heel,

$5,000 purses. Yes. I think that's her kryptonite. The men keep telling her to control her emotions. Oh. I'm not kidding. That's the movie.

She's always strong. She gets amnesia. And then the guy says, you're too emotional. And at the end, she, like, uses her emotions and says something like, I can do whatever I want, I guess. But so the point I'm making is they could not make a flawed female character out of fear that they'll get ripped apart by the woke left. Like, look, you say Wemmicks and thinking you're pandering to them and you're actually insulting them. There's no right way to address.

I think the trans people got kind of fired up about that one. They did. Understandable. Well, Count Dankula had probably the best response. He said, imagine fighting your whole life to transition and to be considered a woman. And then these woke corporations just come out and tell you you're not like, and then all these woke leftists were like Dankula redemption arc. And he like no i've always felt that way like stop acting like it's a different opinion but then he did show the second video of his dog the black lives matter one it was

it was worse than that one yeah let's let's let's do this let's jump to the next segment where we can talk about the ramifications of social justice stuff and this this will probably be a little bit more outside your wheelhouse, but I'm sure you'll still be able to make fun of them, Ryan. So over in Virginia, the new law banning police from pulling over Virginia drivers solely for certain car safety violations. Officers can also not stop people if they smell marijuana. So in Virginia, they passed new legislation. It's taking effect Monday.

So I believe it's already taking effect Monday. So I believe it. It's already taken effect. Yeah, I think so. Will make it harder for authorities in Virginia to pull over drivers. Several minor infractions, while still illegal,

can no longer be the primary reason police stop you while you're driving. These include certain defective equipment, objects dangling from your rearview mirror,

loud exhaust, tinted windows, and smelling marijuana, to name a few. An expired inspection or registration sticker can only get you pulled over. However, it has to be at least four months late. The legislation lists more changes here. Maybe we can pull these up and see what they have going on. Social justice advocates say this is a win. I think it's a first step. It's a huge first step,

said Brad Haywood, founder and executive director of Justice Forward Virginia. haywood said these violations have long been used to stop people for drug investigations and disproportionately target people of color well i think it's it's it's i'm not going to read this whole law i don't know there's a whole bunch of crazy stuff in it i do think it's kind of absurd the cops can't pull people over now because the original proposal was it was like black lives matter protesters were saying they just pull over people of color and they use it as excuses. I think cops use things as excuses. I've had cops pull me over.

I had a cop pull me over once. And as soon as, like, I rolled the window down, I put my, you know, my keys and wallet on top of the dash. I put my hands on the steering wheel. I turn the radio off. He walks up. And the first thing the cop does is go,

excuse me, oh, whoa. I smell marijuana. And I'm like, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's my cologne. I'm like, no, I just got off work. I was wearing my work jumpsuit from O'Hare. And I worked a double shift. My car was full of Taco Bell wrappers, which is maybe why he thought he could get away with accusing me of smoking pot. Pussy magnet you.

Oh, totally. No, you don't understand. When when i mean full i mean like the ground and the chair was a mound of taco bell you were that guy yes i was like 19 no but he pulled me over and he and he and he was like i smell pot and i was like i don't smoke and he's like out of the car i got coughed they searched my vehicle and tried planting pot in my car. Yeah. No joke. So I see stuff like this and I'm like, I understand. But it's also kind of crazy that someone could literally be smoking pot and the cop can't pull them over. Well, if they see it, I think they still can. Right. I guess. Yeah. It's just if they smell marijuana. But I mean, come on. If like I grew up in Chicago, people smoked pot all the time. And what do they call it? Clambake or hot boxing? Hot boxing.

A little bit of both. It depends on where you're from in the country. Clam bake or hot boxing is when they close all the windows and then just the whole thing gets fogged up. Yes, it is. And I'm like, okay, so the cop can't see anything. It's just smoke, right? So when they open it, he says, I saw smoke. They'll be like, well, what kind of smoke was it?

Well, they can probably bust you if you're there and they walk up to the window. Now, they just can't stop you. But when is a cop going to smell it driving as you drive by? That's probably not very common. It can happen, bro. You've never driven past a car. Whoa, those guys are going at it. Dude, you can see people driving in the smoke coming out of there.

Definitely see it. Yeah. No, no. But the bigger picture here is, are we getting to the point where the sensitivities over the social justice stuff are getting to the point where like a cop can't pull someone over for literally breaking the law? It's obviously when you go to the extremes at any of these things. I always used to say like in comedy, because essentially there's like a war on noticing things, you know, like because it's a good point. A big thing that you don't talk about is like, oh, you know, women kind of do this more. Guys kind of do this more.

And you go, oh, it's interesting that black guys kind of do this or like you know whatever it is like that's base level but noticing things that and then kind of that's funny right pattern discernment yeah literal yeah literally noticing patterns in your brain right and then you're admitting to being a bigot yeah exactly right so yeah there's there's a war it's a war on noticing things where you go but but it's it's so manufactured and it's so fake and so this is what happens when it gets these things get taken to their extreme but i agree with you that the cops do do all that stuff put it this way i used to have really long hair like this guy and i i cut my hair and i've never been pulled over since i cut my hair and when i had long hair like him funny dude when i had long hair like him twice

at the airport i was searched my entire bag search i was pulled over for no reason lots of different times and since i've cut my hair 10 years ago never happened again so you know they're one of course they do and i've had cops do all sorts of crazy stuff but this is crazy let me read this there's a quote why should they be allowed to investigate people based on hunches when they have no evidence why don't we expect them to actually get probable cause for drug position or gun position before they pull a car over hayward said i read that and i'm like that's kind of like oxymoronic a hunch that's what probable cause is like a reasonable you know i like you have a reasonable well probable cause is that you have a reasonable suspicion that someone

is doing something. That would be a hunch. Right. It sounds like a hunch. Yeah. You know, it's one of those things like everything else. Yeah. Where, Tim, you go – most people for a lot of the problems, we go, do you think it's bad that, you know, there's these bad cops pulling people over?

And you go, yeah. And I think most people go, that's a problem. And you go, what's the solution? They go, cops can't pull anyone else over. And you go, that's not what it is. That's totally reasonable. Yeah, I wasn't saying that. And you're're like road pops for the boys yeah crack a pack of mo dries because the boys are rocking out on the way to the cottage i i think you know i would we

need a visual representation of this idea where it's like exactly what you said you know it's kind of it's kind of bad that like what is a statistic like you know one in a certain number of cops will do something defund all police abolish all the cops you know what i mean it's always the logical extreme of okay we don't want this and i i think so many things like with the censorship and everything it's the same problem you go most people of me and you were having a conversation they go that was kind of mean what that guy did you know and we go yeah that was you know what was that guy doing at this party calling that girl this or whatever, right? Right.

And then, yeah. And then, and then he's like, I agree. And then the next day you found out he's like petitioning for laws that it's illegal to be mean at the party. And you go, well, that's not right. You know, people want to legislate their, what they consider their morality.

You know what I mean? It's like people want the government to be legislating their moral principles. And I think that's kind of, we don't all have the same moral principles right right right so this actually happened lansing this is um i'm assuming this is michigan right yeah they they pass something similar to say new guidelines lansing police won't won't stop drivers solely for minor infractions they say the new guidelines

are consistent with department's goal of protecting citizens rights while eliminating any aspect in further otherwise of bias-based traffic policing practices so so let me get this straight you've got this happening in michigan you got it in virginia they're saying cops can't pull you over if your license plate is expired all right that's that's that's kind of a problem i mean you register your car for a reason you're paying taxes you're contributing so the issue i have here well i i'm i wonder if the libertarians are all cheering there's also like good i am deep down i am for sure but there's also the other element of making you know the most aggressive laws to force you into that position where you go well i don't know like you're all of a sudden pro cop yeah and

they go look at this guy he's like blue lives matter dude and they kind of it's like they pick these extreme positions that everyone's like i mean that's a little crazy and you're like what you know they do it with it's like with all the issues the issue now is basically all they're really saying is you don't have to get your license plate renewed for four months for four months so that's actually kind of fine i guess you get a four month buffer then what's the point of putting the sticker on your plate why bother going and getting a renewal if you know you can't get in trouble for it you can't get pulled over for it could be like a covid like we're not gonna make just like a little buffer that in case people

can't afford to get their license but see that the point is cops are supposed to just give you a warning so well not supposed to but i think i think they should be supposed to so when when my plate expired on my car when I was like 19, the one full of Taco Bell wrappers, it was a different time. I got pulled over. The clam magnet. Yeah, totally, dude. You have no idea. When those ladies saw the Taco Bell, they were like,

is that Taco Bell? I'm about to unwrap my taco. The amount of wrappers in your car must be clearly $10,000 worth of Taco Bell. Oh, this guy's balling. This guy owns the Taco Bell franchise. I got the wrappers in your car must be clearly $10,000 worth of Taco Bell. Oh, this guy's balling. You're a wealthy dude. This guy owns the Taco Bell franchise. I got the wrappers from Taco Bell.

Are you Tim Bell? When I got pulled over, the cop walked up to the car and he said, your plates are expired. And I was like, I don't know, man. I was like, I just got the car. I have no idea how this works. And he went, no problem. Just go get it fixed. Dude, I've had nine burritos today.

I can't deal with this right now. I was like, officer, I ate too much Taco Bell. It's coming. No, no, no. He just walked up and he was like, get it updated. And I was like, all right, thanks, man. And then I got pulled over again like a week later. And the same thing happened.

And the cop walked up and he goes, license, insurance. And he goes, your license plate's expired. And I said straight up, I was know, license, insurance. And he goes, your license plates expired. And I said straight up, I was like, yeah, man, I just had a warning from a cop. And, you know, he told me to get registered. So I went to the thing. I got it filled out. I guess it's coming soon. And he went, OK, have a nice day.

I suppose that's the kind of story where you hear these progressive leftists being like, when I got pulled over for an expired plate, they gave me a warning. Or when I was going 120 in a 35 school zone, they gave me a slap on the wrist. Speeding is different. Yeah, they're like, I killed a guy and no one even knows yet. When a black guy does it, you go, what? You killed a guy?

No one even knows. Like if you get pulled over for speeding and your license is expired, then you're in trouble. In my opinion. Yeah, if your license plate's expired. But if you just are... The speeding is dangerous. Speeding can kill people.

I think you should always, the cops should be very diligent about pulling over people for speeding. So I think like, I don't know, you made the point really well. It's you say, hey, is it kind of bad that sometimes cops pull people over for BS reasons? You're right. No, cops should be allowed to pull anyone over. That's like a really extreme, crazy thing. But the issue I have a lot of these stories from a scientific perspective is when – like lived experience is not science. Were you following the Smith College thing that happened recently?

Will Smith went to college? Yeah, Will Smith went back to college. James Franco style. They're rebooting Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield. It's with Will Smith this time. No, no, no. So there's a school where there was this black woman and she was in an unauthorized area of the university eating. So the janitor was told if anybody goes in there just call the security security got called they

went there and they asked her the cop was just like you know what's going on and she was like i'm eating and she's like shaking and filming him and it was like oh okay you know sorry to bother you just you know we're supposed to have anybody in here but it's fine if you're here and then she claimed it was this big like super racist moment yeah so the new york times wrote an article saying it was a moment when her lived personal truth was at clash with the facts the new york times actually wrote that so the problem i have is how do we know you know if like someone's when someone says i get pulled over for no reason it's like the difficult thing is there's no control right we can't send one car down a rope

the same cop no and then with like with like an Asian driver and then a black driver and then a white driver and then see which one gets pulled over. And there's multiple factors. Like some girls think that I'm like, you know, like an Asian girl or whatever. And she's like, oh, you're being mean to me because I'm Asian. And I'm actually just being mean to her because she's a woman. Right. You never really know. Right.

You're just trying to find ways to be offensive. And no matter what point you make. Yeah. You're like, let me offend as many people as possible on this show. You have to understand when I did say that, I meant Womxn. Womxn. I'm wondering if the X is pronounced like a Y. I think it's pronounced XXXN.

Oh, my gosh. Even worse. XXXN, which is Hunter Hurst Helms. No, that's Triple H. Yeah, Triple H. Stop it. Get out of here. They say it's pronounced. The X is pronounced. which is a Hunter Hurst Helms. Or no, that's a triple H. Get out of here. They say it's pronounced.

The X is a pronounced. You're supposed to, it's the two arms and there's a socket under that's the under contact. That's a subtext. I don't want you to know that. Well, apparently that's the X factor. The word defensive to everybody.

So everybody's offended by it, but no, you can't like, if you're everyone's had those experiences and you go and it kind of goes to why i mean i was saying the other day that like there's a lot of people that they're fox news when it's uh agrees with them and they're they're cnn when it doesn't like for example if you say someone will go okay that different racial groups have different crime more right and they'll be like obviously that's because of the system and you go okay well then why do guys go to jail less than women and they go well that's because women

are less violent and you go right you legitimately switch between being fox news and cnn based on whether it's the group that you care about because guys are more violent yeah well exactly right i mean and you go obviously a lot of these things are a mix of they're all multi-variable things but nuance is difficult and takes a lot of energy and oh it's not very good for activism it's not allowed yeah like they're they're there's like legit scientific conversations are very very hard to have on youtube because they'll try and get you banned for talking about actual scientific studies they'll argue the studies themselves were fake or bigoted or paid off and it's like so which one which paid off study do you pick i guess like

yeah it's all political i kind of have that that same mentality sometimes when it's like oh you can't talk about this because you're a man or whatever whatever it is and i go all right give me a list of things that i'm not allowed to talk about and let's avoid those subjects because i'm not about to hear you like just listen to you speak and be like zip it up that's basically what they do yeah you go oh you're not allowed to talk on this one's like I guess let's move on then because that doesn't sound very interesting to me. Let's jump to the story about Amazon and cancel culture. And my friends, thank you for tuning in to the show tonight. And I'm pretty sure this segment is going to get us in trouble because the Internet is stupid.

It's very, very stupid. And just take a look at this story from the New York Post. Amazon tweaks app icon after comparisons made to Hitler. What psychotic person. Hold on, hold on. I'm not saying the people who thought this cardboard box with tape on it looked like Hitler are psychotic. I'm saying the person who worked at Amazon saw someone complaining that your box looks like Hitler. So they immediately rushed to the graphic department and said,

quick, change it, change it. That person's a psychopath. Yes. They should have been like, when crackpots on the internet start screaming that the moon is made of cheese, we don't entertain them and write books about it and make sure they get it. We say, shut up. Can we get a picture of it?

Yeah, can we get a picture of the thing? Oh, yeah, it's up right now. You just can't see it. You want to see it? Yeah, I want to see it. It kind of does look like Hitler. You just got to pull up on your phone. I can't see it. You want to see it? Yeah, I want to see it. It kind of does look like Hitler. You just got to pull up on your phone. I can't spin it.

It's the hair. We're looking. That? Yeah, yeah, there's a look. Oh, because I thought, to me, that looks like Michael Jordan when he had the Hitler mustache. That's why I put it. Michael Jordan had a Hitler mustache. You guys don't remember that?

No. I know you think I'm joking because I've been saying a lot of fake things this episode, but Michael Jordan, he did a whole commercial campaign and everyone's like why do you have a Hitler mustache oh my gosh

yeah it was like a thin mustache what no you're thinking of when he had the lip like the cool black guy like where it's just like the tiniest

line of hair he's just like right in the middle dude oh wow he was just like fuck you know screw it

I can bring it back dude I'm Michael Jordan if anyone could what alright well check this. I'm Michael Jordan. And if anyone could. What? All right, well, check this out. I see Michael Jordan. So the New York Post writes, Amazon has changed its new smartphone app logo after critics said the earlier incarnation was a dead ringer for Adolf Hitler.

A dead ringer? A dead ringer. Wow. A dead ringer. No joke. They literally did. Look at this. One guy.

Let me see if I can pull that. I'm trying not to make a few different jokes right now. Keep it in, Ryan. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. So Alex, Alex. You get me going on the. No, we can't.

We can't. Check it out. Wait, wait. Alex Hearn is a UK tech editor for The Guardian. And he tweeted, LMAO, I completely missed that Amazon quietly tweaked its new icon to make it look less like Hitler. And then someone responded, well, I mean, to see Hitler's mustache in a ripped scotch tape, one must really think of Hitler all the time because I still don't see all that

resemblance. The Internet is too exaggerated and everything. And someone responded, it's not just ripped scotch tape. It's a ripped scotch tape that has a similar shape and is right on top of a smiling mouth. Looks like a happy little cardboard adolf to me somebody responded a really funny tweet they said yes yes the image of the smiling happy-go-lucky hitler yeah right everyone thinks so what so what if they compromise and they say they'll make it look less like hitler but still a little bit like hitler somebody made

this picture like we don't want it to obviously not at all look like hitler you know it's yes you have the Daily Mail picture. I mean, it's a picture of Hitler. It looks like a howling with the way. Wait, wait, wait. Somebody made a picture. You can't see it unless you get up and look at it. Yeah.

Come on. Come on. Just be careful with your headphones. So somebody created this image. That's a that's a Simpson Hitler. This this guy this guy john evans it's john three vans on twitter said no excuses here this is amazing yeah that's a bit much they're crossing the line yeah it could have been charlie chaplin there you go why didn't amazon say it was charlie i thought it was weird that they changed Google's address to Google.SS.

I mean, that was a bit much. Okay, but they also changed their motto. Yeah, they're being evil now. So, Googles.com. Googles. This is the world we get to inhabit. I'm so excited. Who complained about this?

Like, who cared about... It's the same people that do you think it was a stalks to the moon do you think it was like a pro hitler person that was like this looks too much like hitler and i don't need amazon besmirching the great ones not a situation i would never have thought it yeah never i don't know who hitler would not be allowing you to use his image to sell stuff to a certain group of people. But so was it you who said that? If you hear a dog whistle, you're a dog. Yeah.

You're a dog. Yeah. So you hear dog whistles all the time, I'd imagine. You see it. Yoink. He's like, maybe. I mean, we're all sort of trained to hear all the things right now. So it's like, yes, if you start, I think whatever you pay attention to, of course,

but as soon as you get into that game where it's like, I'm going to look for everything bad. It doesn't mean you're bad, but it does mean you're looking for it. Ryan, it's like saying that's what she said. Once you start, you can never stop. So once you start looking for white supremacy and Hitler, you can never stop.

And I think that's kind of what's happened to these people. I think they're kind of losing it. Did you guys see RuneGate? Yes. Negative. So this is another good example of just like how stupid and insane everybody is so the cpac stage is what is it the conservative political action conference yeah they said looks like the nazi what's it called an odal rune or something yeah a nordic rune have you seen this it's like a diamond and then it goes like out and there's like little wings i guess i feel like every three months they go look at this kind of looks like you know they've had a a few superhero things where they said all the thing looks too much like the ss stage

thing yeah the eagle remember the imagery people are always kind of saying the imagery looks like nazi and the nazis took the swastika from like a hindu it's a Hindu religious icon. The Odal rune is like an ancient Celtic Nordic thing. Yeah. Second worst thing they did. Yeah. Seized the Odal rune. Stealing. You know,

I'm a comedian. We'll see how much YouTube allows you to, to get away with all of it. You got in trouble though before, right? Tim, I don't want to talk about my personal problems that i've had with the great corporation google.com which you called them googles not me

i was totally something tim would do yeah and if the people at google are listening i appreciate y'all love you guys so i'm just want to get rid of those strikes so so apparently c-pack is getting canceled what like like i mean i mean c CPAC was already pretty canceled, dude. Did you see the Star Spangled Banner? No, hold on, hold on. We got to talk about that. I don't mean that they're like shut down. I mean, cancel culture canceled.

They're getting attacked. Apparently the hotel wrote a strongly worded letter saying like, we can't believe that they used this imagery as their stage. Oh my God. So weak. They were, yeah, they were yeah they were from the moment cpax like almost liberals were like oh they're still gonna do this this year do you know how mean we are now like they almost tried to get everything they went for the hotels

and then the speakers and the agents of the speakers it was like a full cpax like christmas to these people it really is yeah welcome back everybody i think we just got booted and yeah return back yeah um okay the stage some people might not even even noticed because it may have just like stuttered and then heard you say welcome back yeah we had a little blink on the internet you can hear that chime yeah it's when it but we have redundancy set up because you know they try to keep us down it's two days in a row are we back right now we are back we're recording the whole time guess who's back okay okay unnecessary nope none of that the c-pack stage is a convenient shape for a stage i Are we back right now? We are back. We're recording the whole time. Guess who's back? Okay, okay.

Unnecessary. Nope. None of that. The CPAC stage is a convenient shape for a stage. I will say that I don't agree with those bad things you said about Google and the cameras were dead. The gamer word again. Right, yeah.

The gamer word. I don't know whether to complain about the corporate response to these accusations or to complain about the girls' performance of the Star Spangled Banner? No, why? How's that? Oh, my God. It was so many different keys.

Oh, no. She just kept changing keys. And there's a video of a guy trying to play piano along with it and he keeps changing keys. Look at Simon over here. Simon Cowell.

Dude, you gotta watch it. Judging this woman singing. It's so bad. It's so funny. Totally didn't vote for her. Oh, my God. No, I gave her the X. I gave her the Odle rune.

I'd like to do that, Ian. I mean, this girl's career wasn't skyrocketing if she's doing the CPAC anthem, I feel like. Listen, listen, listen. Conservatives are not cool. Nope. That's always been a big problem. But, I say but, to all the conservatives who are watching,

I realized something with like all of this cancel culture stuff and like going back to some of the earlier stuff we were talking about. Ryan, have you ever watched like, what is that God flicks called? Pure flicks. Pure flicks. Yeah. You ever watch like those old Christian versions of movies and like conservative versions of

like TV shows and stuff? Yeah. It's like really low quality and just like really poorly acted. Yeah. It's inverting. Now we're getting like conservatives are starting to make content and it's getting better. Okay. I watched Bill O'Reilly interview the insane clown posse.

When? When was that? 10 years ago. So cool. And he was saying the exact same thing that these people were saying. He goes, you know, this is harmful words to kids. It's flipped. You know, it's everything that they were saying.

This shouldn't be available. We need all of the stuff. And it was 100% flipped. And, you know, the insane – and they were like, you know, you're teaching your kids to, you know, do all these bad things. And the insane clown posse who – you said you're a big Juggalo fan on your off time. But they were kind of like no these people aren't as stupid as you like that's it you're just looking for the worst thing just the same way when they go oh look at uh some right-wing guy and they go look at this

thing you said and you go you're just trying to find something like that's not really what they're about i was trying really hard to remember the lyrics to halls of illusion because i was going to sing i just i honestly couldn't remember it but you know f the world i could sing that oh my gosh he's a bigger no you know halls of illusion i thought was actually a good song when i was a kid i dude i'm when i was like in grade six little skateboard kid when they came out and they go in this one song i say f 93 times i was like you know pretty good no no but look at it cool here's here's the point i want to make right i'm imagining like uh uh i used to there was a channel in Chicago that was like the Christian channel and they had a bunch of cartoons that were very hokey and like just not good storytelling.

So bad. But it was the religious message. Yeah. It was like the religion behind it made it good no matter what. I think about like the static shock thing where they're making him get his powers at Black Lives Matter. And it's like watching when I was a kid watching these Christian cartoons with like, you know, like Christian man.

And it's like he got his powers from reading the Bible and praying properly. And I'm like, you know, it's you know, it's substantially cooler than that version of Static Shock. Jack Posobiec's Agent Post. Yes. So much cooler. It's it's tongue in cheek. It's like it's like self deprecating almost where they're kind of mocking the idea.

So Jack, this isn't as many lines like you can like listen no one likes to watch things when they know it's like really being colored in the lines and there's just there's no transgression on it and that could be like artistic that could be political whatever it is so when you completely know exactly what you're getting and you know why you're getting it it's it's less desirable to watch and it you know it doesn't catch cultural heat and that's why all of these places are having trouble like manufacturing the energy to get people to like their things well i also think that it's like it's it's what you were saying earlier you're allowed to give me one teaspoon of propaganda for every like cup of entertainment or whatever but what happened what happens is you the the problem with with giving more propaganda is the feeling I get is I'm watching something and I want to be entertained.

If I'm mostly just getting smacked over the head with a lesson, well, then I would rather watch reruns of American Gladiators and listen to Bill Hicks screaming in my ear about how I'm you know you know an idiot for doing it but it's more entertaining than watching like religious content look i'm not trying to rag on religious people but i gotta tell you when i was growing up and i saw these like i went to catholic school and they would play these cartoons where it was just like you know just not good storytelling but it was the ideology behind it well so it comes back the idea where you go okay what would it take for you you know if someone has a belief like let's say they're a huge fan of a sports team and you go what would it take for you to change sides like to not be a yankees guy if they lost like if they didn't make the playoffs 50 times whatever it was and they go nothing i'm to the death and you go okay so i

don't really need your take on them then do i yeah and i think that's what all this stuff is if you go you're so in it it's you know to the death and i'm ride or die with this ideology what if what if we're completely wrong about the static shock thing and it turns out that the villains were all black lives matter supporters and the villains are antifa and we're just like we're totally wrong i mean i gotta see the movie to yeah comment comment to what it's a comic i think they should run with that idea that's the best that i can think of i mean sprinkle some dangerous i gotta tell you it's probably going to be the bullies were at a pro-trump counter rally and the cops will be bad just sounds terrible but why would the cops why would the cops tear gas the trump guys in the same comic like the comics trying to make the cops bad guys the cops have to protect the trump supporters

how did the bullies get superpowers were you reading this have you read the comic yet just the just the ones they showed would you hate read it it? No, I would legit just read it. That is the one thing of all of the, you know, you could make fun of this group or that group and people get mad at you. I did a comic sketch recently where I had three different comics. It was That's Their Culture. I don't know if you saw it. The superheroes one? Yeah, youtube.com slash Ryan Long comedy. But the, no, but I, I got probably the most people mad ever that I included different,

uh, heroes from different universes. Right. Gamers are the number one lobby right now. Cause you had Captain America on the flash. And then I had them all fly. And they were like, dude,

people were fired up. Do you want to know the actual truth? And this is what happened was sometimes it ain't like is it wasn't even me being stupid i go i looked at amazon to buy costumes and i was like those were the three that kind of looked the best you put captain america and the green lantern together and they all fly no one cares about you offending minorities or whatever no people were fired up about that cancel ryan long okay okay well hold, hold on, hold on. Let's think for a second. Ryan Long cancel party.

Ryan Long was the Flash. The Flash could spin his arms really, really fast to create wind pressure to fly. Gyroscopic. Yeah. He theoretically could do it. Where were you in my comment section? Okay, hold on. That's right.

Green Lantern can just legit fly, so you're good there. And Captain America, Tony Stark gave him a repulsor for his shield. There we go. And it allows him to fly. There you go. I think so. Tim's got you back. There you go.

You're off the hook. Now it is canon. But it is. I mean, so much of this stuff, because even like I see how fired up you are about this story. Like it all kind of goes back to the gate. How many people say that Gamergate is kind know the pinnacle of the whole thing but it's like the one thing that they're like we can't have this one thing like they're it's like okay fine all your

commercials are this okay all the movies are this and they're like we want to take your comics and make them this too and everyone's like you've gone too far well it started with it started with games and there was a meme of a guy in a military suit with like a feminist tied up and he says why did you make me do this i just wanted to play video games like the the point they were making rather extreme is like if you just leave our video games alone we didn't care what you were doing politically dude of course but then they were like you had you know you know, you know, it was, I just want to play video games now campaigning for Trump.

That's the meme. I just wanted to play video games. But so the issue is, I think a lot of this started because when the blog era began, there was this pressure among these like low talent midwit writers to produce content every single day. If you write for a video game website, and it was the way to get publicity too. Well, right. so check it out. You come out with a comedy special, and I write for

a comedy website. I can only write about your special one time. So what they do is, when a video game comes out, the video game bloggers would write about the game, write about its release, write tips and tricks, and then say, now what? What do we write about? No games are getting released. We can't just have the website be dead

I can oh there was a guy in the game and he was he said um yeah he said big in reference to a woman oh that's fat phobic definitely the content the necessity for pounds and pounds of content

all you know contributed to I mean he cited the blog generator where they just go there's a Necessity for pounds and pounds of content all contributed to. A lot of weighty content there. I mean, he cited the blog generator where they just go. There's a transphobia problem in Halloween. The Vice one? Yeah. Yeah, whatever it is. He throws a dildo at the wall and it sticks to.

No, that was the old Vice thing. That's old Vice. Mine's the new blogs all together. It is so good. Yeah, dude. You're sticking the things on the wall and it's the new blogs all together. It is so good. Yeah, dude. You're sticking the things on the wall, and it's Ryan Long comedy. Yeah. So basically, you have a formula.

What was the formula? So there's a blank has a blank problem. Yes. And then if you want to get, if you want to snazz it up. You can just do anything. Yeah, if you want to snazz it up, you can. I included all the articles that actually exist, and then some guy made the generator. Wow. And put it online,zz it up. Yeah. If you want to snazz it up, you can. I included all the articles that actually exist. And then some guy made the generator.

Wow. And put it online. And it was pretty funny. So basically, you can pick any word, like any social justice word. But they do it. Yeah. Yeah. And they really do it.

And they'll find anyone. And you go reverse, right? Like, there's a racism problem in the gay community. There's a gay problem in the black community. And they just do the whole thing over and over and over again. So it's a big part of that like with the content thing but then i think also there's this idea that it starts with the it starts with the thing but it becomes about making you agree to something so that's kind of like you know let's say the trans thing right so it's always became they go

a lot of people you know why did five comedians all have their specials about trans stuff right and they go why do you guys care so much about this and i was kind of having this argument about something that i could have this argument anything so i was talking about fallout boy the band and this girl goes so fallout boy's a boy band and i go they're not really a boy band like they're just kind of a band like i don't like them be that a boy yeah and i was like a boy band i think like backstreet boys you know whatever having this argument before i know it i'm like dude they're not you know i'm getting all fired up and then it becomes like yo why do you care about followed boy so much i go i don't care about follow boy you're making me say something that isn't true right and that is

kind of a lot of this stuff gets there and you get fired up and then they go what do you care about this thing i go i don't care about this thing well that's that's the thing like so i i tweeted about potato head because ap said like mr potato head is now regular potato head and and then everyone was like it's gender neutral and i just tweeted how is this is stupid like how is he even gendered anyway because his name is mr like that's so dumb i don't even care about the story but then some some article took my tweet to claim that i was an outraged conservative and i'm like i didn't care about this you know what so i decided you know i'm gonna do all angry and i'm like i didn't care about this you know what so i decided you know i'm gonna do from now on i'm just going to tweet the opposite and so

i just tweeted i demand a gender neutral potato head and then when when hasbro tweeted out so do you see the tweet you go further you see the tweet from mark dice where he responded to it saying it's time for republican states to secede so in response to potato head story he tweeted and then all the leftists were like they've gone crazy slightly hyper so when hasbro announced that they didn't actually get rid of mr potato head i tweeted it's time for democrat states to secede so it's like call me right wing then yeah whatever so now i just decided yeah you're messing with them i'm i'm just you know uh michael malice tweeted because we had ethan Suplee on the show. And then he tricked Lydia into bringing him up. Oh, my gosh.

To what? He texted Lydia and he was like, talk about me. Yeah, he did. It worked. I said, I learned from the best, Michael. I learned from him how to tweet properly. Because his tweets are always, you can't tell. They're very opaque.

Yeah, you don't know what he's saying. Yeah, he sort of, in a lot of of times is wrapping logic into weird places too. Right. And like the easiest example to explain to people is when Trump would tweet something, he would say, we don't deserve him. So you don't know if he's for or against Trump. I think neutral comedy is the best. And what was that guy's name?

Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy. No, no. The dude, Kaufman. Andy Kaufman love his comedy I mean people didn't know if it was real or fake

and I think that's the most because so many sad to say stupid people that are bathing in stupidity think it's real which is funny to me but it's also

I think can be dangerous it is it depends on the time and place I was just the Kaufman thing makes me laugh because I watched the Comedy Store documentary

and it's so funny like to go back and how much things are romanticized like even comics like that they're oh this guy was such a killer but what you don't remember is how much they bombed at the time when i was watching the jim carrey on the comedy store documentary and they go he goes before every you know when he did a bad gig he would go sit in the piano and then the close the piano when he goes i won't come out of the piano until the the you know until i've had my punishment and the show's over then he would get out close the piano and he goes, I won't come out of the piano until the, the, you know, until I've had my punishment and the show's over. And then he would get out of the piano and I go, if any of my friends did that, I would be like, I am done with this loser.

Like, can you imagine how annoying that would be if Ian had a bad show? And he goes, I need to punish myself by sitting in the thing. And I'm going to be in the fridge all night. And you'd be like, all right, we need to deal with this Ian guy. And he's like, but then in the history books, they write it as he's the greatest genius he was such a you know creative genius yeah yeah yeah he was so in his head but at the time he'd just be like the biggest eye roll in history anyone doing that nonsense but that's what i mean a coffin's great but i bet you a lot of the things people were probably just like can you not i mean look saturday night live saturday night live in general is

definitely romanticized. I always hear about people saying, remember when Saturday Night Live was good? And I'm like, no. They just remember their era. Everyone's like the era that they kind of connected with for a second. Like for me, I remember Sandler and Spade and those guys. And yeah, if I look back, I go, I don't know. Maybe people before thought it was that. Admit it, bro.

Lunch Lady Land is not funny. Wayne's World was good. Lunch Lady Land was not funny. Wayne's World was one of my favorite movies it was not funny lunch ladyland yeah like chris farley adam sandler sandler is playing the guitar and then everyone's there and yeah tracy morgan's just standing there i think right one of his originals norm mcdonald's in it that whole i think so yeah yeah i don't know i like ladyland but i think you have to you right i mean maybe you were looking at the context at the time but but I think a lot of those things, looking at them after, you don't realize that the point of it was how stupid it was, you know, in the context of like what the comedy at the time was. So, you know, I think it feels kind of like a TikTok's all like random nonsense right now.

How willing are you to listen to this? Because it's funny to me that you're actually paying money to listen to me snowball you with things i know aren't funny like that's the comedy of andy kaufman in my opinion i feel like snl is actually starting to get a little bit more courageous i don't really watch it all that much but they have done some bits where i'm like i'm really surprised they don't want cuomo i'm pretty sure they had cuomo and they had um who else was in it do you remember remember? I don't remember. They were making fun of... It was called No Cuomo. And what happens is it's him and another guy but it's a nice joke.

Someone else made that joke. They did a bit about Ted Cruz. No, they didn't. I'm the first. What did they say? The Ted Cruz bit was him being really weaselly and just agreeing with whatever they told him to say and then he was wearing Cancun clothes or whatever. A bunch of conservatives got mad and they were like

what are they gonna rag on cuomo and then some like liberals were like that's the same sketch and and then they put out the full clip and then you see cuomo's they're getting ragged for murdering you know so i was like oh wow but but you know what like democrats really hate cuomo now for whatever reason it's like they they got their orders, I guess. They 100% flipped on that guy. He's done playing with him. Sending him to the, you know, he's out there. There's protesters right now, I guess, outside like their office chanting resignation or whatever.

Oh my God, he's done. I mean, but let's be real. It's because SNL was brave enough to stand up to him that these Democrats finally realized. Potentially, it might be happening. I don't think that was you do snl ryan if they offered it to you um i've had conversations about doing that lots of that stuff but i've i'm fairly not interested in general to take i mean i i was in like traditional media my whole career in canada and when i came here it's like i was pretty into doing the other thing so the the same way that i'm saying these corporations and all that stuff, like there's such a cost of that.

Like right now, who's all the best people? They're all kind of doing their own thing. Like we're I think I'm making good things right now. And those like systems, the money isn't a lot of times so much greater for all the nonsense you have to deal with all the slowing you down and i think that may be in 10 years i'd be you know let's do one of those but i think right now it's just that would be like just ultimate like handcuffs i also i also feel like the comedy you put up on social media is standing on the line of where you're poking you're like you're legit poking the censorship bear whereas snl would be like pull it back pull it back but i'm yeah 100 but i'm and it's not like i don't have any lines

like when i'm making my things i have my own perspective and you know i think try to be what's funny i don't just try to you know just be like sarah silverman where she just says offensive things to make you angry that was like a style that was the hot thing back then yeah but my point is i'm more concerned with and i think that a lot of people, and even more so younger people than me, it's like the same what you're doing. I want to make my own SNL. Like I want to – like I've – I ran my other TV shows. Like I want to be SNL's competitor. I don't want to join someone else's army machine that's been there for 100 years and they have all these things they're beholden to.

You don't need Saturday night anymore. I mean the venues change. It's now internet and it's static. It can be any time, any day. It can be ever present. This whole like, let's all sit around on Saturday. The Monday night shows, it's all done. It's like done.

It's passed. Yeah, but I want to be Lorne Michaels, not the new guy on SNL right now. Well, let's do it. Freak. That's what I'm saying. I've got a ton of offers from a ton of companies. And it's like, I wonder if people who watch or listen to this show ever wonder why it is that TimCast.com is its own website and not a part of any one of these other political podcasting networks.

It's because I'm, you know, I'll be honest. I'm just smarter than all of them. And they haven't made an offer yet. No. And once they finally come and just give me anything, guys, please. I'll sign right away. No, I've had a lot of conversation with some of these big networks. And I got to tell you, I'm a bit of, I would swear right now.

Yeah, me too. I'm an arrogant prick. Like, I've been straight up like, I was approached by one of the biggest podcast companies ever. Like in existence right now. Last podcast on the left, fourth Mike, Tim Pool. Yeah, that's right. No, no, no.

I'm not talking about a podcast. I'm talking about a network that produces them and then distributes them. And they were basically like, we want to sign you. It's going to be great. Here's how much money you're going to make.

You're going to rival Ben Shapiro. It's going to be the biggest show ever. And I was like, wow. I was like, look at all this. Does your hat have to get a little smaller? They told me I'd have to take the hat off. And I was like, wow. Look at all this. Does your hat have to get a little smaller? They told me I'd have to take the hat off. And I was like, get out of here. No, but I told them straight up.

So the general idea is there's a lot of interest in a moderate, like left-leaning podcast because you have a lot of leftist podcasts. You have a lot of offensive humor podcasts. And you have tons of conservative talk radio. And so they're like, we like the space you're occupying because, you know, it's, it's, there's definitely a market there. And I said straight up, if you get me a contract that is legitimate and fair and doesn't waste my time, I'll sign it. But you know what they do in the entertainment industry?

Because you probably deal with this. They send you the stock garbage contract that basically says you work for us, you sign this over. And I responded one time with, I will give you one more chance to send me a real contract offer. And their response was – And he put the slap emojis in between the words. I put the claps. Send me the real contract.

They say what I hear often is, look, it's standard business. Just send it to your lawyer. And I said, have a nice day. You didn't want to get the lawyers involved the issue is if if you expect me to do business with you under the pretense that i have to spend thousands of dollars on a lawyer to fix your garbage contract you're wasting my time and money so i don't feel comfortable doing business with you you're making millions of dollars being an independent contract basically working for yourself why would you ever ever give that i understand rogan i guess i mean 100 million dollars a lot of money but why would you ever

give up your creative freedom you know it's like he might have done you know whatever everyone has their own reasons but like right now where the energy is in making things and where the energy is in entertainment and especially comedy is not in the like mainstream platforms right now that are you know have a bucket of problems there which is kind of it's a fun way to look at it is every one of us you know in entertainment when i was in music same thing you kind of are like oh you don't want to sell out right there's this idea that like you want to kind of stay true and they're making it real real easy to not sell out right because you go these places suck they don't even really want you to begin with so it's like they're you it real, real easy to not sell out. Right. Because you go, these places suck. They don't even really want you to begin with. So it's like they're reluctantly giving you contracts just because you're popular.

So it's like they're making it pretty easy to be like, you know. They promise you everything and give you nothing. Yeah. And that's usually what it is. And so it's like. And then now they're looking. You make so much money. They go, these people.

That's the only way to do it is to give them Rogan style where like they drop a big bag at your cash big bag of cashier house because they're so late to the mark yeah look at these young guys the nelk boys logan paul these guys it's like you want to get them to do anything it's like these guys have so much money it's too late so what are you offering them exactly tying their hands behind their back no the thing that you think they think they're offering you is like legacy, you know? Yeah, but you get to go to the Oscars, you know? You get to be shift manager at a blockbuster. It's 2003.

Things are going pretty good. They're essentially, you know, they're offering you the middle management position in Hollywood. But you get to be pretty freaking famous. You'll meet Brad Pitt, more likely, you know? All that kind of stuff. So it's the legacy nonsense. They want to give you the watch right i also think that i i think like our generation cares a lot less about that idea yeah there's a lot of people who want that prestige but i'm like i don't look i i think brad pitt was amazing in fight club i think he's done a bunch of great movies i think he's got dumb politics if i met him i'd say oh cool dude like fight club is

an amazing amazing movie and World War Z was cool. And, you know, I think the Ocean's movies were fun. Nice to meet you. They're grandfathered in Legacy. You're not going to be grandfathered in. You know what I mean? But, like, there's a lot of people that really thirst for that Legacy attention. Of course.

It comes from insecurity. It comes from, you know, being new to the game. And it also comes from, like, people that have a need for like a dad you know a lot of people need a manager and they need parents to sort of you know give them approval and tell them what to do a lot of people can't be their own like what do you mean i'm gonna be that like so i think that you know it comes from that too a lot of people need a boss i'll tell you this i've gotten calls from some of the big very obvious networks about signing and i just said i'll be honest i'm starting a company that's gonna be your competition yeah and they're like okay and i'm like so i i don't want to sign under you

i'll get i'll get back to you in five years when i'm making you the same offer and i'm buying your company out oh smackdown he said that to the local arby's chain dude i i have good food let me tell you a story let me tell you a story so um i worked for vice you work for my uh you think i'm joking no you said that device let me let me tell you a story so i i once for vice how about you work for my uh you think i'm joking no you said that device let me let me tell you a story so i i once heard a story about i was reading about vice i worked at vice i i uh got flown out to antalya turkey to party with the executives and the higher ups and uh hung out with shane sometimes like a couple times not like i was good friends with them or anything but shane dawson youtube yeah that's right a few things not shane smith the ceo but uh i read a story about how when they were up and coming he went to this meeting with like viacom and he was walking around like looking at the expensive

paintings and like you know checking out the the furniture and everything as if he was expecting to have it and own it and buy it and his attitude was very much much, I'm smarter, I'm better, I'm faster, and I'm going to buy you. And then where did the guy end up? Look, you can complain all day and night about Vice, but for a while, they were the cream of the crop in terms of digital media, and they were worth an obscene amount of money.

And then the dude cashed out. Probably still are, yeah. Or he is, at least. Well, he cashed out. He's rich forever. And so I heard these stories, and I've just straight up been like, that's the attitude. You're sure of yourself. You don't got to be a dick, but you go into these meetings and you're like, I know what I'm doing and I'm so confident what I'm doing. I don't want your money. I don't need your money. In five years, I will own your company the first part of it's the hugest part you know you know what you want to accomplish and that's not always you can put in words sometimes it's energy you know you kind of know where you want to go like what you want mark you want to leave like what you want to create

what what you what energy you want to kind of leave on this world and and you look at these places and they offer you things you go i don't think this helps really you know and sometimes it might right and you might align but right now, they're doing their best to make themselves unattractive to the top talent. Yep. Come here. You'll make a good amount of money, but you'll have no long-term prospects because we'll own the IP. And if you do anything, we can make you disappear. You know what?

There's also – with the canceling stuff, with everything that's happening in the world, you go – if I was coming out of college right now or high school, the obvious answer is you got to start your own thing that you're going to own. Even if it's a small company. Whatever you do, it should be your own thing because these jobs are too disposable. The world changes too much. You have to kind of create your own thing right now. Let's talk about Bill Burr in this context. So we have this story from cbr the mandalorian bill burr defends gina carano slams cancel culture comedian actor and podcaster bill burr calls out the toxic nature of cancel culture and defends his fired mandalorian co-star gina carano well good for him absolutely but this story

about gina carano exactly exemplifies what you were just saying about why take the risk. You sign with one of these companies. They could just snap their fingers and fire you because you said a word someone didn't like at some point, maybe in six months, maybe a year. Take it away as quick as they gave it to you. Yeah. And the problem is, let's say you sign a deal that says, like, maybe they're buying you out. Or maybe they're like, okay, we're going to buy your show. We'll own it and we'll pay you this large amount of money.

And it's like, here's the money up front for the show. And then you'll get X amount of dollars to continue producing the show as lead producer executive. And then they also have a morality clause where it says if you do anything obscene, they could terminate you. You're like, I got this really great deal it's awesome let's be real joe rogan i'd have to imagine that spotify has some control in that regard yeah where they could you know be like oh look what you said and you know we don't want to necessarily you know talk about joe's deal because who the hell knows but i think that all of this stuff it's they want to take this as just a given you know that old thing where it's like these people think they can just move chess pieces around and you know people don't react to what

happens but the truth is like i know people with normal jobs and they go there and they make them sign the clauses about what they put on twitter and what they put on facebook and you go this is people are starting to realize this when they get this now the same way that if someone gives you a job and you go oh it's 50 miles away from my house that's gonna be a bit of a pain the same way you're getting a contract that says oh you know you can't be on twitter you can't do this so all it takes is for other companies to realize like there's monetary values on all of these things if i go yeah okay i get 60 grand here for whatever you know my middle job or whatever but i'm allowed to say whatever i want or this place is offering you know 7 65 seven, 65 grand, but they kind of,

is this five grand worth me? Not, but the, but a lot of people don't know. I think people are starting to factor these things intrinsically. The, you know, the level of what these places are asking for you. They want you to act like you're the president to work at a frigging bank. Well, let me, let me read a little bit from Bill Burr to show you what he said. For those unfamiliar, Gina Carano, she was one of the stars on the mandalorian the disney plus show it's a star wars show and she posted on instagram the the photo she used was of actual nazi germany probably not a good photo to use but the context was don't demonize your neighbors over their political views she didn't compare anybody to republicans or she actually just posted the amazon logo

yeah it's just the Amazon logo. But but here's what Bill Burr said. They said on the Bill Burtt podcast, he said she was an absolute sweetheart, super effing super nice effing person unless she did some truly horrible ish or said something over some overtly racist ish. He continued. I don't know. I think there is just too many channels. And then you got to do sensational ish.

I don't know what the F it is. I'm on thating show now i gotta watch what the f i say i think that was that was actually great on bill burr's part but he represents the every man but that's the point they could cancel him for this they could cancel him for this he's probably got a morality clause in his contract that says if you say something offensive but who defines offensive so he comes to the fence of gina chrono saying she was super effing nice oh give me two seconds for some woke leftists to get angry and then disney's gonna be like bill you can't come out and defend this stuff and they're probably not gonna do it but they could if they want to who in their right mind would sign a dumb

contract like that well this is for for him specifically he doesn't need these things and he's in the position of power a little bit where if they go, oh, we kick him off this show. We go, oh, whatever. Okay, whatever. It's the 10th thing I do. You know what I mean? So there's like a power dynamic when it stops being something you need and something that you could do or not do. There is a bigger issue there.

The cascade effect. If he gets canceled from the show, and then Disney issues a statement saying he defended racist comments, and was extremely offensive, and we had no choice, then other companies might be like, look, there's a backlash going on. We don't want to absorb any of that. You know, not to just be like the complete like free market will sort it out guy. But yeah, and if that happens, the next generation of people like me and my friends are going to be like, no, don't take a job on those places, dude. Do you remember what happened to Bill Burr? That's exactly what's happening right now.

Exactly. That's exactly what we're saying. Yeah. This is why I don't sign any of these contracts. I know that if I sign any of these deals with any one of these networks, it's a matter of time. Yeah, dude. You won't live like that. I don't even trust these conservative networks. I don't think they would have your back if you said something truly well also even if they will right now in this context

of like the culture war dynamic what does that look like in a year and a half i don't know man things change pretty quickly yeah i mean maybe i i i would i would i would argue many of the conservative channels have much more integrity than many of the traditional hollywood type stuff i just wouldn't sign those deals ideally in my you know what i've kind of said i like the idea of a on like a non-partisan network to begin with like even when like think think about music it's kind of like what you want is uh like a guy that's like hey i don't really get it but the kids seem to not a not a guy that like has a lot to say to you what you want is a network that's like yeah people seem to responding to this it's funny or you know tim seems to have a big audience people like it we should get him on that

as opposed to you want a person who's going to be like oh so we host this one guy the left hates him he's really offensive we don't know a whole lot about you know we don't care too much it makes money for us we do have this lefty guy in our network though and he does these things the conservatives really hate him when you want somebody who approaches like a business that's what i that's what i think that a lot of people like you spent even the younger people are kind of looking at it like that i don't care i don't care what your political values are which is but the bigger issue is when they're scared and it's a business they say we don't want to lose half our customers because they're freaking out so bye-bye yeah it's with

gina carano i didn't know who she was before the scandal and bill burr is a superstar so like they they look at their bottom line they're like you know we can afford to lose gina we can't afford to lose bill is my well bill burr is a comedy superstar he's not like an a-list hollywood actor in that context i mean you know i don't know exactly what the hierarchy looks like but it's the little world i live in some of these people we, oh, that's the biggest guy in the world. He swears a lot. Yeah, but Matt Damon walks in and everyone goes, oh, Matt, you realize the difference. Isn't the weirdest thing?

It's just like, why? Who cares? Obviously, who cares? But that's just the way the world is. This is a really interesting subject because I don't think we talked with Ethan Suplee about this specifically on the show. But we did briefly touch on it. I wanted to get into this more, but this idea that the traditional idea of fame is over because now you have HBO Max, I think it's called HBO Max, where they're doing simultaneous theater releases and streaming

releases. So people aren't going to go to the movie theaters for these big movies and spend 20 bucks per person anymore. For the most part, they're gonna spend 20 bucks for the whole movie and then watch it with like 50 people at their house while they order pizza or whatever so why would someone cast tom cruise brad pitt you know who was the person you mentioned was it damon mad damon one of them one of those one of those two brothers you you book them because you put their name on top of the movie right yeah yeah and that way people see it in the marquee and they see it in the ads and they say, oh, I want to go see this. And they go to the theaters.

I think now that there's so many different streaming services, so many different movies coming out. Like I mentioned that one movie, Spiral, came out on Shudder. It just came out. I watched it. It's not a blockbuster movie, but all the movies are basically being made equal at this point. Sure, there'll be big marketing and big budget campaigns.

How did that work out for Wonder Woman? Apparently, Wonder Woman like fizzled and made barely any money because it was a streaming release. Yeah, and that's with me renting it 50 times. Yeah, I know. And I, you know, I sign up for 50 accounts to buy it because I just love Gal Gadot. No, no, no. But seriously, why pay Gal Gadot,

you know, $20 million to do a movie when you don't need her name on it because it's not going to do that well anyway. Yeah, they've lost like hollywood mastered their star making formula you know the way that certain labels have in the past or whatever like they were able to make her and then you know sign her to these contracts and it was all part of the system so they bring people in and they make them you know the next galgadon whatever it is right but they're doing everything in their power to like ruin their vouch and their star system so what when i go back to the younger kids and i think me and you are around the same age so we're in the middle there's a lot of young

people right now that they've mastered they they have these huge instagram accounts huge youtube channels tiktok they know how to make another guy so like you know talk about the nelk boys you know i just think those guys are interesting but they they literally brought another guy so like you know i talked about the nelk boys you know i just think those guys are interesting but they they literally brought another guy in brought him got him to a million followers got his channel to a million followers then they're like we should start a management company they basically mastered star making the same way that hollywood has so just call just at the same time hollywood's wrecking their star making because they go check out this comic they're so funny and everyone go they go what about this one they go and check out this comic. They're so funny. And everyone goes, huh? They go, what about this one? They go, huh? And then everyone's like, we got to stop paying attention. So these guys are wrecking their star making formula.

Think about it. Same time everyone else is figuring it out. Hollywood is like blockbuster video. They've basically become the old, stodgy, uncool, you know, or they're becoming old, stodgy and uncool. Like you mentioned, like kids know how to know how to be make stars themselves. They know how to use social media. They don't't need the system anymore but it's also the worlds are completely separate like the ad revenue system on traditional media is so different from digital

media it's changing though it's getting close like a lot of these a lot of these places i mean youtube is worth more than instagram and you know it's all based on how people buy but it's not it's not that crazy different. Well, but it kind of is. Check this out. When you buy an ad on, say, Tucker Carlson's show, you're not going to get, like the numbers you get for Tucker's ratings

are an estimate based on a sample size from like Nielsen boxes. Fake boxes that no one's actually using. I mean, so you're hoping it's true. Yeah. And it's probably close. With digital, we know the exact number. So what happens is-

And you know the exact demographic of that number. Well, so with the internet, you can refine your ads and really maximize your price point and your profit. With buying ads on TV, they basically tell you, here's how much it costs for an ad. It's like, you know, some websites say it's like, Rachel Maddow's like $ 8500 for a commercial to run on her you know on her channel these advertisers will pay very much money yeah used to be like business 20 go try to buy something yeah go try to buy a commercial on logan paul's podcast i'm sure it's more than that absolutely way more than that i guarantee you it's going to cost way more than that yeah so you and she's getting she gets at what like two to three

million premium ads. He's got Nike. I was watching when you watch Fox News. I told you this earlier, but it made me laugh so much that they can't get good sponsors. So they have sleep apnea mask cleaner. That's Fox. They have the funniest ads like orthotics, you know, remover. So I'll write this point up and then we'll get into that a little bit. Basically, these advertisers spend the eight grand and then just look at their sales and see if they go up and then try and figure out if the ad campaign worked.

With online, I can literally see people click the link. I know if the link is actually working. So what's happening is in a lot of ways, there's more ad space. There's more real estate for ads. So the prices go down. But anyway, the main point of this is it's a totally different world based on a lot of guessing. And now it's going away.

It's becoming worth less and less and less. Fox News is running pillow commercials and sleep at me commercials. Rachel Maddow's ads are like, I got to tell you, man, and they're not even the parts that they can. And to go back to because you're so right. But the even worse part of it is that even the data they do have, they don't want to listen to for other reasons. It's the equivalent of they go, actually, this is what they like. There's a huge market for this perspective.

The world's craving this perspective. And then they go, what if we go with this one? And you go, these numbers are way higher on this one. They go, eh, we can't do that. Check this out. I'll give everybody some top secret information. So you can Google search this. If you look up like cable channel ad rates, they say, I just said Rachel Maddow because

I was looking into it. It's like $8,500, I think, for a 30 second, 30 seconds. Do you know how much it would cost you for 30 seconds on? Okay, so she gets like 3 million viewers. If you found a YouTube video with 3 million views, do you know how much it would cost you to get a promo spot in that YouTube video? Yeah, I don't know. 3 million?

60 grand. Yeah, that sounds about right. About $60,000. If somebody can get 3 million views per video, they're probably selling it for like 50 to like 75, depending on where the ad appears and whether or not they consider themselves to be a premium brand that is better. And you don't have to film an ad. You just go, hey, also, instead of filming a million dollar commercial, you go, hey,

go check out, you know, Tim's beanies. Yep. So companies will say, here's the script, promote it. Here's what we want to see. And then the youtubers do all the work like when we do the ads we i just read and talk about the product and so it actually costs less because you don't have to make it i would say that it costs more money probably well it's hard to say depending on the segment we do it can cost more money to advertise on this podcast

than it would on rachel maddow yeah easily that's crazy the old world is in decay yeah you know so so anyway the main point of the segment because it's like we've veered into a bunch of different subjects i would never sign a contract with any of these big networks if fox news or cnn or any well if cnn and msnbc came to me and they're like would you like to sign i'd be like surely you jest if fox news came to me i would also be like are you kidding no not gonna happen i wouldn't sign with any of these companies now for the digital media ones i think it's great that they're smarter and doing better in their business models but you know you know what we're gonna do we're launching a new podcast soon it's gonna be crime cults mystery

and the paranormal it's gonna be evergreen stories not news related We've got some crazy stuff. We're getting lined up. It's legit. So we've got some like potential cult members and people who deny ever being in a cult. Yeah. So it's going to be like cool gas. It's going to be like a bit of scripted. But we're going to start producing this content and we're going to create a new site that's going to be, you know, nonpartisan content.

So it'll have talk. It'll have jokes. It'll have con, it'll have jokes, it'll have entertainment. And then we're going to create something bigger and better than all of these other platforms. And it needs to happen. I want to build like, like these multi-channel networks kind of thing and like start like an organization, but I want to make sure that the people that we sign and empower are, are fully empowered that we don't like end up ripping them off with like, we own your content. We own your ad revenue. Like I want to give people an opportunity, bro. I know that makes no sense. Yeah. Think about this. There are a lot of companies that say, we're going to sign you

and you'll start a new YouTube channel and we'll pay you, but we keep the YouTube channel. And I'm like, why? What happens when the contract is up? Are you going to produce content? Let's, let's say someone signs you in and they're like like you'll make a youtube channel but we own the youtube channel a year later the channel is dead it's making like pennies a month worthless and you don't produce anymore what are they gonna do are they some like executive gonna be like i'm john for the ian channel they tried doing it discovery tried doing this i think it was now this was it now this that sounds right they bought discovery or something and then or something happened and then they changed it was like this. Was it now this? That sounds right. They bought Discovery or something. And then or something happened.

And then they changed. It was like one of the Discovery channels turned into a now this channel. Everyone's like, we don't want this. We didn't subscribe to this. You can't turn Netflix into Amazon and expect everyone to be like, OK. So it's dumb now the way the traditional media works saying make a social media channel and we own it. Great. So in two years, you'll have a dead property.

That's stupid. Let the person keep it as part of the incentive package. I don't want to own it. They're your followers. I'm not going to take your Twitter from you. But you know that these big cable channels do this. When you get hired, they make you create a new Twitter. They own.

It's crazy. Yep. It's like the second POTUS Twitter. The second POTUS? Yeah, like the president has his old Twitter and then he gets his new president Twitter. Oh, right, right, right, right. And then they have to transfer it over. us yeah like the president has his old twitter and then he gets his new president twitter oh right right right right and then they have to transfer it over it makes sense to have in your contract like you'll make the channel and for the duration of our contract we get the revenue from it and we

control it as if we did own it upon your contract ending then well a lot of times i guess they change they keep the show going without you that's the other thing they reserve well but i mean like a lot of these deals that are happening now with YouTube are like, we're going to sign you to do a new YouTube show that you host because people really like you. And then we keep the channel. And I'm like, OK, then keep the dead IP after I leave. It makes no sense.

The deal should be. Yeah, but then they make they go, uh, Tim cast in IRL hosted by DJ Qualls. DJ Qualls. DJ Qualls? Yeah. Wow, what a throwback to that guy. Where did that come from? I just thought it would be a good replacement. I was telling Tim that.

Dude, I'd be stoked to have him on the show. That'd be awesome. I want to build a network like that where you empower the user to own their own content and to see them flourish, but you just kind of create a seed organization. That's like an mcn a little bit but like inverted where you don't you're not in it to rip these guys off you really want to see them get because that's how you attract the best people anyway ask them there uh wouldn't say what oh yeah we're in this to rip these guys off right they all start like that well i was involved with maker studios in the early days yeah the big one yeah i watched a lot of the the contracts go awry like philip defranco was part of it in the very beginning and they wanted all

his revenue and he was like why am i realized pretty he was the first one to realize like why am i doing all this work and paying all this revenue to maker when i could just be keeping it all myself peace guys so i took that as like i learned my lesson a lot of conversations with these youtube people and and you're kind of like, I go, I don't listen. I'm like a loopy guy, but I don't think I'm stupid. And then I like have these conversations and they sell me the whole pitch. And I go, okay, I just listened to you talk for like 20 minutes. And I like, honest to God, have no idea what you're, what you're going for.

What do you guys do? What do these companies do? They're like, no. And we have take your channel and there's like tips and tricks and we have and we maximize this and maximize – and you go, what are you talking about? What do you do? I have a big announcement to make, ladies and gentlemen. We are here today with Ryan Long on the spot. I'm going to make him an offer right now to join the new network.

Now, here's the deal. We're going to make a new channel, and we're going to call it Ryan Long Comedy 2. We own it. We get all the money. Didn't you just tell me this is the worst idea no idiot would take this that's the joke yeah oh yeah because but they keep it you can't have it ian started talking but you'll work i will play ryan making all the money and then tim's like and i didn't forgot about this making all the money but and we're replacing

you with ian yes oh yeah yeah no no we're just straight up doing it. We're buying you and then recasting you with Ian. Buying the IP. Yeah, I'm in. Ryan Long comedy, too. It's a win-win. Loose. Starring Ian Crosland. It's number two, and there's like a little poop emoji because it's double on tons.

Perfect. All right. Let's take some of these super chats from a lot of people who are having some questions and stuff, talking about Static Shock and all that. If you haven't already, go to TimCast.com. sign up to become a member because if you've been listening to this episode thus far i can only imagine that the exclusive members only content is going to get us in serious trouble because ryan really really just is poking the bear as much as possible you're giving me the funniest intro where you're like this guy is gonna be no holds barred

as soon as we finish you're gonna, okay, do your edgy thing. And he's going to put on a suit and tie. So, Ryan, when six million people died in the Holocaust. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, we're not being that edgy. Not that edgy. Although, apparently, you don't need to watch the exclusive episode now because he's already saying these things. No.

Let's read Super Chats before Ryan gets his ban from the internet. Awesome. All right, all right. Smash that like button. And, again, away for free, Ryan. Let's read Super Chats before Ryan gets his band from the internet. Awesome. All right, all right. Smash that like button. And again, TimCast.com. Don't forget to subscribe and share and all that good stuff. America Float says, people watching this content night after night may also enjoy America Float's channel and the AF's deep end sidecar channel.

Thank you, Tim, for watching what you say and keeping your channel afloat. Very cool. That's the best way to get a free ad spot on this channel that's not bad eh 10 bucks yeah better than 60 grand that's right that's well written i like that christine h says have caitlin bennett on the show does she get mad that they call her gun girl i don't think so they call her the gun girl joe kush says please invite agent smith from china uncensored are we going to we're having china oh wait yeah yeah i'm not, yeah. I have not a lot to say. It's not a secret anymore. Yeah.

Trent Lomelino says, dude, I always push my friend about wanting a Static Shock and Zoid's live action show movie. It's a bummer they're changing Static Shock to be some stupid Black Lives Matter protest thing because the original story was legit. That's too bad. Whatever. I guess kids,

you know, they're probably it's like some 13 year old like that stupid old man thinks static shock is dumb what a loser he's so dumb yeah but there is also that thing of and it always goes back there but it's like can't you just make new things like if hollywood wasn't so freaking lazy they're like if you want to make a black lives matter superhero make a black Matter superhero. Do you have to take everything and remake it differently? Just start from scratch and write a movie. Are you not Hollywood? Preach.

All right, let's see what we got here. Oh, someone's talking about Ryan. Sub Zero Beef says, Ryan Long equals pro breakdancer. Lace the loop. Is that true? I went on Luis Gomez's podcast in New York, and we were having

a competition. He said that I couldn't do Lace the Loop if you know what that is. It's when you hold your one leg and then jump over the other leg.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I did it and fell over and smashed their TV. Well, there you go. I still did it, though. Physical comedy. All right.

What Broke says, Tim, I never super chat, but I'm begging you to look into getting JPCers onto the show. YouTube channel Awaken with JP. Dude has arguably some of the boldest political commentary on YouTube. Yeah, but he's also a really, really big channel.

The one thing people need to understand about getting other people who host shows is they're like, I'd love to come on your show, but I host my own show. I don't have time. Or why would I? You know what I mean? What the hell is that supposed to mean? He looked at you right when he said it you know we can't get people that are like big for example high quality no no like how often do you put out content uh i mean he does

kind of jp does a sort of a similar thing to me but i think he's very funny and it's it's it's like what i'm trying to say is for people i'm not saying this about jp in terms of a lot of content though there's like you know people like kyle kalinsky for instance it would be really hard to book because he does a daily show when's he gonna take time off his show to come do my show that makes no sense jp sears does no i know i know that's what i'm saying i wasn't referring to him specifically about you know that kind of stuff did you just take my water oh maybe oh here's mine oh jeez you legit just took my water oh no we're stealing water from each other. Oh, we're sharing cooties here.

I'm growing a beanie. That's how you know. But you are right. It's for people that do a daily show. It is very difficult. Yeah, it's almost impossible. All right, we got Nyasha Miza says, keep up the good work.

Would you be able to get Tom McDonald on your show? Yes, as soon as he's available, I suppose. Fellow Canadian. That's right. Dude, we can't have, there's like 50 Canadians who I've reached out to. You have Berg coming on. as soon as he's available. Fellow Canadian. That's right. There's like 50 Canadians who I've reached out to. And I'm like, would you like to come on the show? And they're all like, oh, that'd be amazing. When?

And I'm like, as soon as you're available. And they're like, we're locked in Canada. Oh, that'd be great. And I'm like, oh. They can't come. Are they ever? Are they ever locked in Canada? Yeah.

Yeah. So you got family up there right now? They are in certain places. So if you're in like Ottawa, they have a curfew and they actually give people tickets for it. So there's people, there's all these stories of, you know, a woman that she's dropping her kids. I mean, they sound like freak cases, but there are lots of them. And I know people that have had this. She's dropping her kids off at her mom's house and she stayed there.

And then the neighbors called the cops because there's five people there. And then they get a thousand dollar ticket and people were just out it's it's honestly so comical i'm just like yeah country you guys are out of control over there but you know i'm sure that some people that live some places are like that's fine here and whatever i'm not even obeying it and blah blah blah but not there though i can people in hotels so if you want to go back this is the the funniest one. And Australia has this too. So Australia is even funnier.

So they basically lock you in a hotel and you really can't leave. And my buddy, Evan Demare, who's a comic from Canada, he was locked in the hotel because he's in Australia right now. And while he was there, one of the girls that was there was like, screw this. She's like a party girl. And she tried to escape. And then people filmed her trying to escape. So got it on video news covered it cops came they found the girl brought her back and then they had a guard outside of the girl's door yeah yeah she was trying to go to escape to go party right wow uh no well they bring her back she was already in

jail they bring her back to her current jail and nobody only come out for a peanut butter sandwich they charge people with crimes for that. Yeah, I'm not sure the extent of what happened with this girl. But in Canada, they started essentially being like, okay, you have to stay at this hotel and also you have to pay for the hotel. Yeah, that's crazy.

Well, yeah, so I'm just not going back, which is fine, whatever. All right, we got Greg Bohan. I'm probably pronouncing that wrong. He says, you want to talk about D.C. and social justice infestation. You should get a hold of Ethan VanSkyver of Comic Artist Pro Secrets on YouTube. His peers run him out of D.C. comics and canceled him because he was a out Republican. Interesting.

A gay Republican. Apparently. Matt M. says, Ryan stoked to see your show next week in Orlando. Oh, yeah. I'm doing Orlando and Tampa next month. And again, buy tickets because RyanLongComedy.com for tickets because all of the shows have been selling out and they've been super fun. It's been cool to see everyone coming out.

It's been cool, dude, to have everyone come out because I haven't toured America since I moved here. And then we're like I think we could there's enough places open so we started doing it and it's been I was like oh man this is way better with your comedy you're basically hosting like mini clan rallies is that what it is oh wow wow mini

Tim I'm not offended by the clan rally part I'm offended by that you think my shows don't have a lot of people at them alright alright we gotta no that's the funny part that even just touring one thing i'll say that's kind of funny is that anyone that kind of you know that people get mad at online they think that and you go to the shows and it's like people of all races like you know some frat dudes a group of girls it's just everyone right and the funniest part

that i feel like people get wrong about everything is whenever you're talking about like race and stuff well i mean other people have said this but going back on the road made me realize it so much people can't wait for you to talk about their group like if i'm doing there was like a table of like hasidic jewish dudes when we were at the other table and i started doing jew stuff they're like they're dying they're like to us and then there was like this indian dudes and they're kind of like if you yeah like especially people that do all race stuff like russell peters like the people go for like if you're doing japanese the like koreans are like they think they love you like nailing their thing you see the dr seuss thing that happened

they like canceled dr seuss books yeah i started that oh yeah i started the hash all right so so one of the things that got canceled was it said the china man who eats with stick eats with sticks or whatever and it's just a cartoon guy wearing traditional chinese clothing and he's running and he's got a bowl of rice and they they banned the book they they stopped publishing the book because of that and i'm like how was that offensive i don't understand it's literally just someone who drew a picture of a chinese guy you know eating rice yeah i'm offended i guess china man was offensive oh no you're gonna say china person yeah china. China person. Yeah. No.

Okay. Look, I don't know. I guess I'm not allowed to be offended by anything ever because I'm not completely Asian and not completely white. So the left just tells me to shut up and like get into the corner. You're like that new TV show that the clip went viral for. Which one was it? You didn't see that?

No. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. The Netflix show where she's like, you're closer to white than i'll ever be so but i'm not offended at all by these

these things and like based on what you were saying the same way if you if you go to a show and you play an instrument like you play guitar and they're making fun of the drummers you're kind of like okay do guitars like right people want you to do their thing i want to be involved make fun of me yeah and especially if you know what you're talking about like you go something you go that's freaking my mom like people like it yeah yeah yeah yeah all right i'm not reading this one comment but basically a woman says you get her very excited to play simply oh actually tickets ryan long comedy uh he's how you're in the cucumber show says hey tim i emailed timast recently about my animated series, spoofing the Apple store called Cucumber.

Coming to Kickstarter April 1st. CucumberHasRisen.com has story info and the trailer, as does our YouTube channel. Thanks. Hello, Lydia and Ian. That's cute. Hello. Yeah, it's the Green Lantern's porn is called Cucumber.

Cucumber. Bo Jess says, That static shock reboot sounds like Bible man level writing mainstream entertainment has basically devolved into early 2000s Christian media quality

that's what I'm saying man you've been saying it's like a religion I mean it's just another example listen ladies and gentlemen

should we make should I tell people what's going on with our pillow maybe oh yeah so I've talked a bit about it. And so Ryan is going to be helping me.

Yeah, I said I'll take your project to the top, kid. To the top, kid. And then, you know, basically what happened was I was leaving. I was hanging out in the stands at a venue as Ryan was leaving. And he saw me and he went, hey, kid. And he threw a burlap sack to me and I caught it. And then, you know, And then I got the idea. That's a good ad.

Ryan's going to be... The idea for the Our Pillow, and this was basically what you said, was it's the most brutal pillow ever, but it has the right ideology, so you have to buy it. That's basically what they're saying about Static Shock and this woke media. The content is garbage, but it's the right ideology, so you have to watch it. It's Claptor. Yes, exactly. You ever see Claptor?

No, but I have at my show The Claptor. The Claptor? The Claptor. Yes, I got it. Sure, I get it. Guys, it's getting late. The pillow. Yes.

Speaking of getting late, segue. Yes, We're doing our pillow and this is the first time Ryan's actually got too late on it. How would you rate

our pillow on a scale of one to ten? Are you showing it right now? No, you don't want to unveil it. You can go grab it if you want. Do you want to unveil it? We've already shown it before.

Oh, then whatever. So you've got the new pillow. How would you rate it on a scale of one to ten i liked it i mean for me it wouldn't be for me but like my girl i obviously give i have a separate blanket and then she's in a burlap sack so that could be a good that makes sense yeah that could be a good addition to the bed or the floor uh she would be on the floor yeah right outside the door

kind of thing well that's why i keep her water and food and stuff like that so where else am i what she's gonna be not when she gets thirsty don't you think it's a little wasteful to give the glorious communist pillow to somebody that's a little high class yeah it's gonna be for you huh yeah it's gonna be for me you're right so they're gonna be performatively expensive you're right she should not get a pillow that's true yeah there you go why would you waste it no she what she'll do is um girls should all sleep in a woman's hillary clinton suit jacket with the hanger still in it hanged up on the rack that sounds comfortable in it yeah i could do that did you write this stuff down just to use for like later sketches like right on this thing that's you think i should have a sketch

that's the sketch like every how every woman sleeps i mean i don't mean that one specifically but you know all right let's read some more of these things we got to read we'll read more mitch stew says tim i am going to resend you my resume and post it in your subreddit within 24 hours to show my interest in joining your team i share your vision and would love to simply share my ideas also i love you ryan you are the future of comedy. Thank you very much. But notice he didn't call you the present of comedy. See, that was actually

a secret burn. I have a video called The Future of Comedy, so I'm wondering if that's a reference. Pandov86 says, Ryan, need a sketch about Jessica Yaniv

where she runs out of money and needs to start suing. She targets... She's kind of out of the news right now. I feel like her moment's kind of done yeah tim dylan did a really funny one about the the salons and stuff no the new the health minister oh right right right right it's just like you know so this is not the you know the craziest

thing but so i have a studio in toronto which i still have but um i'm getting rid of it soon oh uncle pennybags here and i'm playing dude i'm i'm just i my uh i got a pretty leaky operation going on here yeah yeah i got a burlap sink uh holding my money right now there is leakage yeah i do not need a studio in toronto that can't go to. But I'm subletting some of these things up. So me and Danny were reading about the Jessica Yaniv thing or whatever. And while we were talking about the story in our office that Danny's the guy I do the sketches with, we were like, this is crazy or whatever. And then at the same time, we're like, it's crazy that there's all this news stuff happening outside of our office, blah, blah. And at the same time, we never realized it.

But while we were reading the story story it was happening because it's across the street from my office the spa where she went to try to get the ball waxing wow it was across the street from my office

so every day for three days there was you know Canadian TMZ there being like what were the balls like you know I don't know

but just trying to get the scoop so yeah that's pretty crazy right that's that's that's pretty crazy, right? That's, that's, that's, that's. It's across the street from my office. It's serendipitous.

Yeah. You have to. And more so, we were like, that is pretty nice to know that there's a ball wax in place. I mean, yeah. In the area. Silver lining. United We Stand says, is it me or does Luke sound weird tonight? His voice seems higher and really loud, too.

Yeah, yeah. Really loud. Wow. Luke changed. Really loud. Wow. Luke changed. Alright. Coco Deuce has been in the military for 13 plus years. Left ideology over the last decade has infected current leadership to massive degrees. I can't remember a time when color, gender, and race didn't really matter.

Now it's the only thing that matters. Secession may be the only option. It's a scary prospect, man. It's a very scary prospect. Watching the TV show Secession is the only thing that matters. Secession may be the only option. It's a scary prospect, man. It's a very scary prospect. Watching the TV show Secession is the only option. Forgetting about all your problems and just watching Kieran Culkin do his art. All right, let's see. Darth Sarka says, oh my, one chance to super chat.

Okay, one. At least two anime discussions and no attack on Titan. Well, of course. I've watched only a little bit of Attack on Titan. Well, of course. I've watched only a little bit of Attack on Titan. It's pretty good. You like it? I like the art. Yeah, I like Attack on Hill better.

Have you seen that meme? Do you know what Attack on Titan is? No. It's an anime where there's giant monsters that eat people, I guess. No. And so someone made a meme. I was having sex. Oh, okay.

You're busy. Somebody made a meme where the Titans are King of the Hill characters. And the heroes are like, they have these things on their waist that shoot cords to propel themselves. And it's Hank Hill. And he's holding spatulas. And it's attack on Hill. And the Titan is Bildo Trevis. It's really good.

He says, Tim, if i send you this gift will you pronounce jif like normal people do three nazis only have those symbols because we let them that's true um the creator of the jif said it was pronounced jif so i don't know i don't have this conversation before i'd be down to bring it back so many times is it gif or jif fight it out biff i believe it was. The G is pronounced B. That makes more sense. It's Gif. But it is, though.

Long I. That argument, let's say that you're right, that the creator said that. Things do kind of change. And the new one that everyone says, it's the guy that says potato. And you go, it's actually originally pronounced like that. And you go, get the hell out of here like well it's not anymore yeah

Eric Miller says Ryan you should do a follow up to the voting wrong turned me white where the guy sees the Wicca Cola ad drinks the Coke

and it fades to black and you hear him say I'm back baby that's pretty funny that's great do you see you see George Alexopoulos' comic he made

about the Wicca Cola thing yeah wait no I didn't sorry I seen the Coca Cola thing so George Alexopoulos' comic he made about the Coca-Cola thing? Yeah. Wait, no, I didn't. Sorry, I've seen the Coca-Cola thing. So George Alexopoulos, who does these paintings we have, Gprime85 on social media, it's a white woman renouncing whiteness and being baptized in Coke. And then she comes up and she's covered in Coke, so her skin's like darker. Yep, yep.

Yeah, Coca-Cola's been all over that. Dylanylan dylan bastard says how dare you sully the name of bible man how did he get his powers from the bible i don't know lanius shrike says if you think religious kids shows suck you've probably never seen five ish what is that is i've not heard of that is that good must be no i've never seen that. I've seen 69-ish. Guys. Oh, this guy. It's way too late. That's for the private. Spicy, spicy.

Is there any good, like, I think they've made some good Christ ones. Oh, Passion of the Christ is a pretty good movie. That's not a good show. Like, you can make movies with a point without, you know, slamming it with propaganda. It's just, you need to be, you need to care more about like the making the good things first and then your ideology is going to be in there anyway because you have it all right let's see recto says did you guy buy did you guys buy the dip in crypto five digit btc what a gift ian said 50 words on this episode silenced by big tim lmao what if ian just randomly screamed in the

mic in the middle of an episode and then two hours of death glare? Okay. I'll do that. I mean, me and Tim are both pretty talky. That's a. Yeah. All right. Let's see.

I did not buy the dip on crypto. However, I have some crypto proxies and my boy, Danny Polischuk, who has a podcast that he talks about this stuff. He's been buying and selling crypto uh trading cards which is hilarious to me so it's essentially crypto cards oh yeah but they don't exist except for on the blockchain there's no physical copy he's into all sorts of that stuff yeah the nft stuff the non-fungible tokens alex grindlin says tim when you lived in fremont did you ever go to the improv comedy club there club there comedy sports maybe when you lived in seattle it was over in ballard i did not i did go to a record store every so often and and talk some of the people there that was a long time ago so i'm not like i'm gonna it's like 14 years ago

so i don't know where it was uh the miami improv did they say no it was like over in fremont fremont chicago uh seattle oh yeah yeah let's see trip suck says they've ruined my favorite superhero ryan never change tim many rebel many liberals just like me watch this show your listeners are not only on the right oh that i know the i suppose we we did it we did a poll and found i think the biggest group of people who watched my regular youtube content was libertarian and then it was like moderate conservative followed by liberal and then it was followed by i can't remember we talked about it quite a bit but there actually were social justice warrior like far leftists like two or three percent of the people pulled said they watched my show yeah and that's where they were and that's why like i mentioned this

sometimes i went to portland and actually had some antifa people like fist bump me and say don't don't let anybody know like it's the world's way more unified than it seems uh-oh it jumped it jumped i said uh-oh because someone said bobby bob says tim's parking lot will never be the same without its hobo. It's true. I'm sad every time I see it. Uncle Eddie. Uncle Eddie. It's cousin Eddie, yeah. So yeah, Luke's on vacation. Yeah. Yeah.

It may be permanent because that dude's basically a vagabond. That's the right word, right? Yeah. Yeah, like he just travels around. Traipses around. He lives where he goes. He goes where he lives. Except he's got like a big truck and a mobile and like a and like an rv so it's actually pretty nice oh yeah it's fancy traveling yeah dude it's super it's like a champagne socialist traveling pretty much yep champagne vagabonding yes perfect

what's the book yeah he's got jack kerouac, but it's, you know, the fancy hard copy. All right. Mara's Exalted says, Hey, crew, been watching every night after work. Big fan of the show. Lids is an underrated source of info. I'm a Canadian music artist and would love to help out any music endeavors. Also have a song called Smollett that rep fans may enjoy. Interesting. You know, I have a million and one songs.

If I was to actually write down every song I've ever written, it's probably a viable completed song. Several hundred. There's probably thousands of some type of song with like melodic, but not like written out. But we are working on a new one, which will probably never get done because all the songs we were originally working on because we did Will of the People. Well, we just bounce around too much. I think we'll get this one done, though. Punk rock for Bideniden yes yep it is you know uh it's it's a it's we we want it to be it's it's double punk because normally punk is supposed to be like anti-establishment right yeah

and so we're anti the anti-establishment so it's like inadvertently pro-biden because we don't want to conform to the non-conformists who don't want to conform to biden so it's it's unironically pro-biden actually as a statement against that's what they call sub-punk sub-punk um yeah are you a drummer yeah yeah we should jam next time you're 10 we just got a kit i think it's on the way right now it's half here nice yeah it's gonna be loud wait you play drums yeah really yeah and uh jamesKeefe, what does he play? He sings. He sings. And Jack Posobiec plays bass. Yeah. And we'll get Ryan Long on drums. I think we talked about that. I did Jack's thing

and he was telling me that. And we'll make a super group and we'll call it the far right. Perfect. I identify politically as a comedian. That's right. Thank you very much. Ryan Long. Keep your labels off of me. That's what I say to girls and that's what I say very much ryan ryan keep your labels off of me that's what i say to girls and that's what i say to you politics people there you go fair all right let's see

george d says tim with australia you have to separate what's going on in melbourne under dictator dan and the rest of australia apart from melbourne we are living life back to normal no curfew no masks and everything oh is that the one I said? Okay. But you have to understand, too, when they say outside of Melbourne, everybody knows that you have Melbourne and then you have the outback. That's all Australia is. So it's you live in a city or you ride kangaroo. Yeah, that's all. That's how it works.

There was a I'm kidding, by the way, but there was a really funny podcast, I guess. Roseburn, who is an she's an Australian actress. And it was really funny because we had Sydney Watson on the show. Do you know who Sydney Watson is? No. She's Australian. And we did a whole bonus segment where we just asked her about kangaroo and she was

answering it. But then the segment Rose Byrne did on this other podcast, she was like, I grew up in a city. I have no idea what it's like in the middle of nowhere with these animals. Stop asking me. If you ask me, I will snap. If you ask me about a kangaroo, and I saw that I started laughing because we literally were like, Sydney, tell us about kangaroos.

Fine, then. Tell us about didgeridoo. All right, fine. I have three didgeridoos. Could you imagine if an Australian person came and said, tell us about the bison? You'd be like, I don't know. I drove past one one time. It was crazy. They have horns. And apparently, you can about the bison. You'd be like, I don't know. I drove past one one time. It was crazy.

They have horns. And apparently, you can get them to eat. But if you tell me some of the Canadian stereotypes. Boots. You say a boot. Not animals as much, but whatever. Drink syrup. Hockey syrup.

Stereotypes are kind of true. Fresh maple syrup. Yeah, that exists. Have you had fresh maple syrup from the tree yeah yeah but you haven't cakes and all that stuff we have that here too though not not like right out of the tree yes we do yeah yeah i have it right out of the tree like that would be like a school trip would be a cliche thing like that where you go and snowshoe around with your class or something but when i that's canadian we no no i did that in illinois we went

and like there's maple trees everywhere. Illinois is basically Canada. Okay. Yeah, basically. I guess. Illinois-ing. I'm from Ohio. Yeah.

The Great Lakes separated us. Yeah. Yeah. I guess when the country peacefully divorces, Illinois and New York are going to join the United States of Canada and then everyone else becomes... United States of Canada. That's the meme. Yeah.

Jesus Land. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Eric Wright says, curious about everyone's favorite animal and a brief explanation, including Lydia. Keep up the great work team. Ryan, favorite animal?

Woman, I'd say is mine. Really? Interesting. That's very intelligent. Favorite animal. That's very edgy. It's one of those. What if you said human and you were just done with it?

Yeah. I don't know. Okay. You go first. You come back to me. Well, I'm going to say the gorilla. The gorilla. And if you haven't had a chance.

Yeah. Look at that. Check out this gorilla. You come back. Well, I want to talk about, I want to say the gorilla. Uh, and if you, if you haven't had a chance, check out this, uh, gorilla. There it is. Ian's favorite animal. Pick this t-shirt up on, uh, I think on timcast.com shop slash shop.

Not slash shop. Just click the button and click shop. I'm a gorilla. It's actually a monkey, but I mean, I don't really, sometimes I wonder about the difference. Oh,

the monkey's my favorite. I just like the primates, you know, the intelligence in their eyes. Yeah. Pretty cool. Final answer. Pretty sweet. What are you, a Tim, a tim a lizard guy no i guess i don't really have one but if i had to pick i'd say crows are you serious they're in the top 10 smartest animal on the planet they they you can you can speak english to them you can teach them things

okay yeah it's crazy and you ever hear the story about the little girl there are no better story there was a woman who used to go hiking and taking photos and she would leave food for the crows one day she dropped her her camera lens cap and when she came home it was laying on her her stairs oh my god they brought it back the crow saw she dropped it picked it up and brought it to her house and left it for her there was they were doing i don't know if you heard about on the set of the crow um yeah i brandon lehman tragic story no no no there was another thing that dropped there was a jeez dude no i was just saying one of the grips was a rapper so he dropped like super that's right that's right honestly had nothing to do with uh there was there were some researchers i think

they were at syracuse and they would capture crows to use in research. And they learned that if you engage in this, you have to wear a mask. Because the crows would never forget that you were the one who captured them and subjected them to experiments. And they would tell their friends. And they would, like, poop on people and, like, harass them. No joke. Crows are legit smart. There was a guy who invented a crow vending machine.

Brilliant. He basically set up this machine where there was a plate like an attachment full of covered food. You put money in and get a crow.

Well, the crow would land on it. They would eat the food and then crows sweep the ground when there's no food left and they knocked the coins into the machine

which made more nuts come out. Then he put coins on the ground and so when the coins were gone the crows would jump down grab the coins fly up and put them in the machine, which made more nuts come out. Then he put coins on the ground. And so when the coins were gone, the crows would jump down, grab the coins, fly up, and put them in the machine and get nuts. Once that was gone, they would fly around the neighborhood looking for loose change. Bring them back. And he said his total profit was going to be somewhere in like 86 cents. Oh, my God.

But he effectively trained the crows to pick up. To find money for him. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. That's amazing stuff. It's better than not buying a metal detector. That's awesome. I love it.

It is. So, Ryan, what's your favorite animal? Okay. My favorite animal is sloth. Those are cool. How about a sloth? I did a report on those in high school. Yeah, you did.

Sloths are cool. Their defense a sloth? I did a report on those in high school. Yeah, you did. Sloths are cool. Their defense mechanism is basically just not moving. And I like that they're kind of the bad boy because everyone trashes them. What do you mean? Everybody loves them. No, it's like lazy sloths. It's a sin. Two toad or three toad?

Or is it three toad or four toad? How about three? Yeah, three toad sloth. We've got riveting stuff here. We've got... All right, hold on. Riveting stuff here. We got a bunch of important information. Check it out. 56th Crusader says, Bible man got his powers from his obedience to God.

They gave him a Robin-esque sidekick in the second or third episode. Not as good as Angel Wars, in my opinion. Interesting. And Carnacle Blackburn says, Bible man's lightsaber is powered by faith. Huh. I loved him and veg

veggie tales growing up also three two one penguins kevin is goat bible man is so bad it's good i want to watch bible man i liked veggie tales i want to watch it yeah i'll check it out yeah i'll definitely watch bible man it's gonna be like i bet you could take bible man and the new black lives matter static shock and be like i see similarities and how it's like all about ideology yeah he's like the police were tear gassing me because i was doing the right thing now i have power that'd be cool if he lost his power if he stopped believing in the right you know doing the right thing i mean that's probably going to happen someone's going to be like you don't think it's really happening to be honest

there's probably a bunch of young woke people and there's like checked out gen xers who are sitting there with their eyes half closed and then the person person's like, I got an idea. He's a Black Lives Matter protest. He gets his powers. And the boss is just like, oh, yeah, you know, whatever. We're going to sell so many copies. You know what the trick that they're like, a lot of these things are missing. And I watched because I see movies that do this kind of stuff and they're fine. And you ever watch a conversation and they like you're kind of you have an argument and

they're not addressing like the other side. You're no that's not what they think you know right right right where it's the same thing when this where they treat other people like not humans like i watched there was this one where the camera was called but they had a it was like a black dude he got out of jail and the cops were kind of the enemies and they'd kill the guy but then they also showed the cop what he looks like as a human so he went back and basically he felt he like you know felt like and he didn't know what to do and he kind of was going through and his wife was leaving him and this guy's life sucked and then they showed the the third person which was the friend and his girlfriend they kind of they humanized the

other side i was i was very like um and i think that in comedy so many times they write other people right now like they hate them. And you can't write people like you hate them. So that's why people's Trump's impressions were so bad because it's just, oh, I'm a frigging idiot. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, like Family Guy's Trump episode. It was just they made him tiny hands with a bright orange face. And it was like, dude, on the nose. Just a little much of a character.

But that's not really, you know, there's funny parts about everyone. tiny hands with a bright orange face. And it was like, dude on the nose, just a little of much of a character, but that's not really, you know, there's funny parts about everyone, but you need to like contain the humanity. And I think it's when you're providing the opposite side, same as providing the opposite perspective. It's like ever, even in most superheroes,

it's like they're villains, not just all bad, like something got them there and you sort of see there. So that's how I feel about Hitler. I can tell you more about it in the bonus segment don't get into your theories you you so understand the villain all right with with these stories i think about a lot when we're when i'm like writing music you can't just tell the audience what's happening you have to like allow their imagination to guide them to some capacity you can't write a song where you're

just literally so i wrote will of the people and it's telling a story but a lot of it you can't see unless you watch the video and so you know like i'm talking to nish today because we're writing the song and she was like there's a lot of information to convey in this that we can't get in lyrics and i was like that's like kind of the point if you just the new school where it's people kind of like look if you look at Lonely Island, they were writing songs knowing that the video was going to be part of the gags. And I think that a lot of people are doing that musically right now where they're sort of picturing the video to convey something else while they're writing it. The song will be good, but with the video, you really understand it. That's true for Will of the People.

You don't want them to be like, that guy, that villain is so evil. You just want the audience to see the villain's behavior and think, wow, that's very, you want the audience to think it, to realize it on their own. I mean, you know, it's just like multi-tiered. But hold on, you know what's crazy to me? I guess this is a relatively new thing in comics. I shouldn't say relatively new. It's been some time, but like the origin of Mr. Freeze in the Batman animated series.

Do you guys know this? No. They won an Emmy. I think it was the first cartoon to ever win an Emmy. I think it was an Emmy. I'm not sure. But Mr. Freeze, originally comic book villains were like one-dimensional. I'm gonna take over the world because I'm evil!

Mr. Freeze was, his wife was terminally ill, and he was misappropriating corporate funds to do research to try and cure her disease. And when the boss found out, he was like, how dare you? Shut it down. And then while they were fighting, he was like, no, I won't let you kill my wife! And he grabs a gun disease and when the boss found out he was like how dare you shut it down and then then while they were fighting he was like no i won't let you kill my wife and he grabs a gun and then the security guy throws him down and then the cryogenic chemicals blast him and then

he gets turned into mr freeze and his whole motivation is he's trying to save his wife's life and it's all about his own personal selfishness so it was like it was an interesting backstory for a villain like magneto also was kind of like and dr doom i think but magneto later on i don't think i think originally magneto was really one-dimensional and then it was later artists who really made this amazing like x-men's genius stuff and it's social justice stuff this is the crazy thing you know x-men is social justice magneto was in a polish – he was in a concentration camp in Poland. And they were – some of the artist comic book writings of X-Men is that Magneto is like Malcolm X and Professor X is like Dr. King. Where Professor X is very much like through peace and reform, we will bring about unity.

Yeah, that's a trope in a million things. It's the peace and reform, the, I mean, the Black Panther was kind of that. Yeah. So it used to be the villains were just like, I'm evil.

And then later on they started developing villains to actually have legitimate motivations that we understood. And then now they are taking, now they're devolving where the protagonists

are just one dimensional. No, no, but it's not even that. The police in the static shock thing, it's like, get out of here or we're going to tear gas you for no reason pew pew like wait what come on like what's that show homeland homelander is that what it's called where that's like the boys i think they took it too far because those are like overtly villainous heroes but it was pretty

good though i like heroes that are corrupt or have a have a weakness or like a you know you need that otherwise it's not a real believable. I went into like the campy world a little bit. Yeah, I got way out there. Yeah. But there is something cool about the flawed superhero that is a human. Yeah. All right.

We're going to do one more super chat. It is, what is this? Goo bazooka. Pangolins are the coolest animals. They're very cool. That's right. Oh, wait, wait. I'm sorry.

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