Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #243 - Minneapolis To Fund Antifa Autonomous Zone With $500k w/James Lindsay
Episode Date: March 13, 2021Tim, Ian, and Lydia host critical race theory expert and scholar James Lindsay to discuss Minneapolis choice to spend $27 million on an award for George Floyd's family, as well as funding the Antifa "...George Floyd Autonomous Zone", the influence of ads, the media, artificial intelligence, and the algorithm on human behavior, the social media cancel culture political war as explained by the movie Kingsmen, and China's ongoing cyber war with the US, as well as their switch from mocking to weaponizing American leftism. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How's it going, ladies and gentlemen? Welcome to TimCast IRL podcast. If you're not a subscriber,
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So you can make sure you stay tuned to the shows. We got a bunch of interesting stories and topics
to talk about today. The big story that's just breaking now is that amid the ongoing Derek
Chauvin trial, Minneapolis has agreed to settle with the family of George Floyd for a historic $27 million in a
wrongful death suit. There's a lot of questions around why they would do this and how this is
going to impact the trial of this officer and whether or not he's going to be able to get a
fair trial now that the city's basically admitting fault. I think ultimately it results in riots.
A couple other stories, though. Scotland, my friends over in Scotland,
Count Dankula, man, they got it bad. A new anti-free speech law is coming into effect.
There's some news about Cuomo. They're apparently trying to cancel Eminem because, you know, Eminem
is edgy and I guess racist and homophobic and transphobic and bigoted and all those really
awful things. And these young people are now realizing the kind of music this guy was making.
So he made a rebuttal song.
I don't think the song is that good, but we'll certainly talk about it.
And to assist us in navigating the world of woke, we have one of the preeminent scholars engaging in criticizing critical race theory, wokeness.
We have James Lindsay.
Hey, Tim.
Yeah.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
Explain what you do a little bit.
I write about woke.
So, I mean, you did a great job.
You call me a preeminent scholar.
Yes.
What am I going to do better than that?
I like to tell people that I'm one of the best, I'm one of the leading scholars on critical race theory, et cetera, critical theory, among people who don't believe it.
And so there are probably people who are advocates and adherents who are in the faith who know it more deeply and more thoroughly than I do.
Maybe not.
But I don't believe it.
I think it's wrong.
I think it's actually racism reinvented and going to as much depth as you want.
It's just racism.
So that's what I do.
I have a website, New Discourses.
It's newdiscourses.com, and I try to put up podcasts, videos, and written material,
writing an encyclopedia, explaining how the woke talk, how they misuse words.
And that's about it.
It's all I do these days.
And you're fairly pessimistic, I guess, huh?
I'm a little pessimistic right now, yeah.
I'm not.
I mean, I vary.
It's like, so black pill is a thing, right?
So people don't know what a black pill is.
You got like all these pills because the frigging Matrix came out.
And now everything's a pill.
Yeah, right?
Orange pill is the Bitcoin one.
Is that?
That's Max Keiser's podcast.
Yeah, I didn't even know about that pill.
There's too many pills.
I know about the blue pill.
The blue pill means you want to stay in the Matrix.
I know about the red pill.
And that means you think that the media is lying and you want out of the Matrix.
And then there's a clear pill that's like i don't care about any of this
like it's when george carlin back in the day you remember george carlin had that thing where he was
like i don't care who wins i think it's all crap yeah you know i have no stake in the outcome any
longer i'm just gonna write jokes and he's like near the end of his life and he just kind of has
old man ranting that's that's going clear pill like you don't you have no stake in the outcome
anymore just watching and you just go clear for yourself then there's black pill which means uh it's over
it's over it's over depressed that's it despair and then there's white pill where all of a sudden
you see hope and i guess there's orange pill of that's racist bro oh i didn't write it racism i
mean a lot of pills are white but some of them are pink and some of them are blue yeah this is like it's it's the weird world where colors all of a sudden represent race in any
context so like uh true you know ian and i and a couple other people in the house we all we all
play magic the gathering it's a card game it's and they have colors it's like each card can have
a different color and so because half your swamp right right i was like a teenager all right so
because they use the colors white and black
there are certain cards they've deemed racist for simply using the mechanic of black magic
like this fantasy idea that's that's that's the depravity of of wokeness well that's in their
literature that's actually in their scholarly literature let's look that's in the books
they're they're literally literally in their scholarly books that they write that the association with black magic being bad and white magic being good is like proof that –
But do you know what Rayleigh comes from?
Night and day.
Oh, sure.
That was literally what it was.
It was light and dark.
It was at night.
Things were dying.
It was dangerous.
There were predators.
In the winter, it got darker and everything died and it was scary and people got scared.
And then when the sun was out, we were warm and we were predators. In the winter, it got darker and everything died and it was scary and people got scared. And then when the sun was out, we were warm and we were safe. And so we just created this idea of light and dark, good and bad, had nothing to do with the color of someone's skin. Now they've made it that way.
Yeah, yin and yang in Chinese, as us gringos would say, yin and yang. Yin is the black one, everybody, and yang is the white one and it's the creative and the
and the receptive if you want to kind of taoist cosmology super racist though because asians are
like more racist now i guess asians are more white than white people i guess yeah they they were white
adjacent for a while and they're also a model minority and now though they're just white but
then they're super white because they get to claim that they're also a minority so they get to hide
from being white so they're like extra white it's like it's like super straight but super white because they get to claim that they're also a minority. So they get to hide from being white. So they're like,
it's like,
it's like super straight,
but super white.
But instead of being like good,
it's bad.
It's,
it's all upside down.
It's,
it's all clown world.
Well,
we'll get into this stuff too.
We got Ian East.
Oh,
hey everybody.
Ian Crosland,
Ian Crosland.net.
And I just want to point out that black and white are not colors.
They are shades.
Oh yeah.
That is true.
Correct.
Technical for them.
They are shades and tints
or something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
And then there's me in the corner
pushing buttons correctly this time.
And I have no say
in this color argument,
so I'll turn it back to Tim.
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And I don't know
if y'all are into this stuff,
but the other day
with Kim Iverson, she was talking about destiny cards. And apparently I'm the ace of spades.
And as far as I'm concerned, that's like the best card. And so naturally, I was like, tell me more,
and we did like a 40 something minute segment where she broke down what destiny cards are.
It's a kind of astrology. And I'm not I'm not a big, you know, believer in any of this stuff.
But she talked about how she predicted Donald Trump would be defeated, but not feel defeated
and didn't understand what it meant until it happened. I was like, now I get it. So it's
interesting stuff. But of course, we also have Scott Pressler, who was talking about
primarying these America last politicians. So that's more your cup of tea, become a member.
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Let's take out this first story.
And then we'll just we'll just get into this stuff, because this is from CBS News.
Minneapolis approves historic twenty seven million dollar settlement with George Floyd's
family.
They say the city council voted 13 to zero to approve the settlement, which directs half
a million dollars to be used to benefit
the George Floyd Memorial site at 38th and Chicago.
Do you know what that means?
I'm going to build the suspense on y'all for a minute.
13 to zero.
This past weekend.
Yeah.
The George Floyd Memorial site, which is an autonomous zone.
Someone was shot and killed.
Yeah.
The city has just announced they are going to fund this Antifa autonomous zone to the
tune of half a million dollars.
That's the degree to which this insanity.
I'm sorry, James.
You may say that you're a little pessimistic, but boy, am I getting pessimistic on this
one.
Twenty seven million dollars in a civil settlement to the family.
Look, I'm upset the guy died.
I don't like it when anybody dies.
Twenty seven million historic.
Why?
Because the terror worked.
That's right. The burning down the Because the terror worked. That's right.
The burning down the cities.
It worked.
That's right.
So what are you going to see?
More fire.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're giving half a million dollars to these people.
Yeah.
Now the crazy thing too is Chauvin is still on trial.
And so you have these jurors who are supposed to be coming in and being asked if they can
remain impartial.
And now they're going to be told, you know, in the civil case, they've already won.
Clearly, he must be guilty of something the city's agreed to settle.
How can this guy get a fair trial?
OJ Simpson lost a civil case.
After though, wasn't it?
I think the civil case was after the criminal case, though, in his case.
It's funny, funny phrasing.
I don't know the history of civil case, criminal case, the adjunctives of it.
Is there a precedent for doing a civil case first, finding them?
I'm not a lawyer.
I have no idea.
I do know that, you know, this was a wrongful death and that he's being tried for murder one, right?
No, murder two, three, and manslaughter.
Oh, okay.
So, yeah, who knows then?
Because the city is sort of admitting fault here.
Yep.
And I can't see that. I don't see how you yeah i mean i mean i guess
theoretically maybe the judge will be like no no no you've got to separate that and maybe when it
comes to the the defense they'll say a settlement is not an admission of guilt the city just simply
thought paying out would be less expensive than the damage and he might actually say the fact the
city thought 27 million dollars was cheaper than fighting the suit shows what they really feared
was the riots from the extremists who are trying to destroy the city well yeah of course i mean
that's what the whole gig is an extortion gig i get that there's like oh there's the passion
people are locked down i don't want to like deny the app you know that what was the the saying we had to endure it was a quote from from martin luther king but i felt
like it was taken a bit out of context which was uh that a riot is the the voice of the unheard or
something like that and i get it people were locked down for months people are like kind of
out of their their minds looking for something to do there's this flash point everything goes crazy but um it's an extortion gig the the whole because
because the theory underlying it if we look at critical race theory is an extortion gig it works
on public relations they're not riots but it also defends things like looting there was that book
defensive looting that's all rooted in critical race theory and all this crazy stuff that was
written about ferguson i was in ferguson and when that article came out
i threw up in my mouth a little bit it was it was like reading that was a combination of several
different uh what's the right word for this like like violations of ethics the first was
to see the people desperately defending their town, their neighborhood from these violent rioters and looters who are exploiting them.
To see the manipulation and fake news and the corruption of the media.
It was like all at once.
And I was like, oh, in Ferguson, the kids who lived there, some young men linked arms around the convenience store and they were trying to defend the businesses from the looters who came
from out of town to exploit and steal and burn things down because they thought it was funny
and they didn't care and then along comes these ultra woke white progressives from the suburbs
who have no idea what it's like to live in poverty cheering on the criminals who invaded
this neighborhood and attacked the poor, marginalized people who lived there.
And I witnessed it.
That's in Ferguson, right?
That was in Ferguson.
Okay, yeah.
So what happened in Minneapolis is, you know, the person who's now the vice president coming
out and saying, this needs to continue.
Let's bail them all out of jail.
Here's a link to the fund.
Kamala Harris.
Kamala Harris, yeah.
And people thought that if she got elected, this is true, that she was the tough cop,
the top cop. She was going to come and put an end to this Antifa elected, this is true, that she was the tough cop, the top cop.
And she was going to come and put an end to this Antifa stuff, this violence.
And I remember talking to some people I know in the Chicago suburbs.
They were talking about why they were supporting Biden.
And I was like, don't you think that under Biden, these extremists are emboldened and
the riots are going to get worse?
And there are people who said, dude, Kamala is like was like locking up innocent people.
Pretty sure she's going to go nuts.
And I was like, dude, she tried bailing these people out.
She solicited funds to get them out of jail.
What's happening now?
They set the Mark Ohadfield courthouse on fire again in Portland.
That's right.
Yeah.
And speaking of Portland, you know, I remember talking to some folks that I'm friends with in Portland.
And they're a big concern going into the election, these are people who are lifelong Democrats or
progressives or leftists or whatever, as Portland would do. And their concern was, well, our city
isn't protecting us, our state isn't protecting us. You look at this, Ted Wheeler, the mayor,
you look at, was it Kim Brown, is that her name, the governor of Oregon? Maybe I've got Kim wrong,
but I think that's right. And then the last line of defense, it's like Trump.
And, you know, his hands are tied.
He can't even send in like federal troops or the National Guard or anything.
And then their concern was, you know, if Biden and Harris win, now every level of government,
whether city, state, or federal, is going to do nothing to protect the city of Portland.
And now, like you said, the federal courthouse was on fire with people inside, right?
It was set on fire with people inside.
Law enforcement.
And they had to rush out and try to put the fire out.
Yeah.
Do you think they should have sent the feds in?
That Trump should have sent the feds in?
I mean, it's complicated, right?
The way that Antifa works, and a lot of people don't understand this,
and if you say, oh, it's Black Lives Matter when it's not Antifa.
Sometimes it is.
There's this wing of Black Lives Matter that I think is called Black Lives Matter Revolution,
but we could look that up.
It's the activist wing, the paramilitary wing.
The way that they work is what's called inducing mid-level violence.
A lot of people don't understand that there are levels of violence or how violence works.
And what mid-level violence is is that kid, the brothers, right, in the back of the car.
I'm not touching you.
I'm not touching you.
I'm not touching you.
And what they want is you to either back down and show weakness or to overreact.
And so we were referring to this over the summer as the Trump trap, is that if he sent
in federal troops, aha, he's a fascist.
He's sending in federal troops on American citizens.
That was, the narrative was there.
This whole game is driving narratives. We see this with what's happening fascist. He's sending in federal troops on American citizens. The narrative was there.
This whole game is driving narratives. We see this with what's happening in Minneapolis now.
You see it there. The entire operation of what's happening is a narrative-driven maneuver where you have a collusion between big media, the Democratic Party, to seize power. And the
narrative is the thing. So the game was to put Trump in a lose-lose situation. Oh, he's too weak.
He didn't do anything to protect anybody.
He didn't do anything.
But if he had done, the narrative would have flipped the other way.
Oh, he's a fascist.
See, we've been telling you for four years.
We've been conditioning you for four years.
Trump's a fascist.
He's going to seize power.
He's going to take over everything.
And now he's sending federal troops against American citizens.
That's exactly what would have happened.
So his hands were tied. From what I understand,
he was also told, you know, by military brass, if you make this order, we won't follow it.
And so what's he going to do? You know, then he gets put in the same trap now with these other
people. He has to force them or back down and look weak. And the same narratives are going to
be able to get spun out of this. And this is what people don't understand. And I mean, I don't want
to make this like left, right or whatever, but the radical left understands narrative and political warfare and nobody else does.
And so that's how they keep catching everybody with their pants down.
Political warfare is the most important concept you've never heard of.
And political warfare, our foreign adversaries reported a few decades ago, I think China and Russia both, had remarked that the
American ability, because we rely so much on physical warfare, we have such high technology,
we have badass jets, you know, the whole thing. We don't even think about political warfare
anymore. They said it's so degraded that it might as well not exist. And this is what we're losing
right now is political warfare. And the radical left is trained. They're excellent at it.
They think about it constantly.
And they put people in these traps, these mid-level violence traps.
We're particularly susceptible to it because this country is classically liberal.
And I know a lot of people need to understand what that means, classically liberal.
That doesn't mean conservative or liberal in the colloquial sense.
It means believing in freedom and government for
of by the people, things like that. So this country is a constitutional republic with
philosophically liberal values. Liberal as a term seems to have just gradually evolved to mean,
I guess, Democrat. So it was like John Locke that invented. Right, right. Classical liberalism is
much more similar to like center right libertarianism, if anything. And then social
liberalism is the civil rights kind of era, people who believed in free speech and respect for,
you know, people and things like that. So that came about. But those of us who occupy this like
moderate libertarian space, kind of left, kind of right, maybe depending on who you are,
well, we're playing fair. And we believe in respecting the rights and speech of the of the of our opponents.
And the problem, that is, I routinely stand up and defend leftists who get censored.
They gloat and laugh when it's us getting censored.
That's right. Or I will absolutely.
And I did defend Taylor Lorenz in this in the wake of this criticism of her because she this woman from the New York Times put out a tweet
saying that her life was literally destroyed by harassment. I saw a tweet and I thought it was a
silly thing to say, but I'm not going to be bothered by yelling at someone on Twitter simply
because I thought something they said was silly. Otherwise, my whole day would be nothing but that.
Well, she started getting a lot of criticism and I just ultimately said, look, I get it. If you
want to criticize the idea and the institution, please do so. But, you know, getting into the weeds and
getting into the drama, I think is, is a waste of our time. I absolutely tweeted in her defense
multiple times, made videos in her defense because I don't like the idea of people piling on and
engaging in this culture war drama. And then not only, uh, I won't go into details, but now there's
literally a harassment campaign being fun, being promoted by large, powerful institutions, putting insane and ridiculous lies out about me, talking about where I live and my home, and absolutely engaging in a targeted harassment campaign.
And they're all laughing about it.
They're all laughing about it.
So I can stand on principle and say, let's not do this, guys.
And then what happens then is the people on the
anti-woke side, the people who believe in freedom say, it's warfare and we have no choice. They
started it. That's the problem. I believe in a principle. And if my principles are we don't do
these tactics, then I am at an extreme disadvantage where I can sit back and turn the other cheek
when they do these things to me, to my family, to my friends.
But if we dare speak up, you know, Glenn Greenwald points this out,
they will come for you and they will use the weight of all of these institutions to destroy you.
And even when I still defend them, they don't care.
They are bad people.
Now, this is why I say that, I mean, I've written an article, I think it had a podcast,
both of these things that I actually called wokeness, but it could be radical leftism in general or even any certain totalitarian strain that I called it radical left wokeness in particular.
I called a virus on the liberal body politic.
It takes advantage of certain liberal, cultural and ethical mores specifically to do exactly as you just described, to absolutely neuter the host ability
to defend itself. Your immune system's not there. I like to actually kind of say, frankly, I've kind
of gotten hard about cancel culture. And my belief there is that the asymmetry is the story.
It's no longer, it's not culture war. There's a power grab happening. I'm not quite as far as the right who are like, it's war. We have to act like war, but
the asymmetry is a story. And so for me, until we adopt an attitude, if someone wants to cancel,
you cancel them first four or five times, because it won't take that many. They,
till there is a realization that this is a, you know, mutually assured destruction,
that this, that this horrific thing is going to continue.
But what it requires is a suspension of one's principles as a classical liberal, which puts us in that decision dilemma yet again.
Also, by the way, I don't know if it's called GFAS.
Is it GFAS?
Is that the George Floyd Autonomous Zone?
Is that what it is?
Yeah.
But that's the same thing, though, right?
Just wanted to point out, since we don't so we
don't lose it that's also mid-level violence right and the city has decided to show weakness
by giving them whatever half a million dollars yeah so uh their other option of course is to
send in the troops and just bulldoze this they won't do it apparently it's been there for like
nine months they put in half a million dollars now as part of this settlement and someone just
died there recently and the police couldn't get in to help this person so i'll say this now my opinion very
much changed in the autonomous zones i'm here for it you know what roll with it i left these cities
you know i it's funny i'm in the philadelphia area previously and i was like there's too many
riots and they cross the bridge and they're coming into these neighborhoods so i think it's time to
start considering not being in these cities because it's not about Antifa. It's not about
Black Lives Matter. It's just about opportunistic violence when things start going crazy. And we had
a year of riots. Well, sure enough, I think it was like a week after we didn't move out officially.
We started the process and came down to the new location. Riots broke out, mass shootings. There
was like a hostage situation. And I'm like, there you go, man. I mean, homicides are on the rise everywhere. And
so I think people need to realize, I think the last group of people I'm worried about in a big
city is people like Antifa. I mean, a lot of these people are like suburban privileged, scrawny,
you know, angsty youths. I really don't care. My bigger concern in Philadelphia, there was a bunch of
armed dudes like repeat offender criminals occupying buildings and shooting at cops.
And you've got that kind of crime. You've got the homicide skyrocketing. You've got the gun crime
skyrocketing. You've got just theft across the board, even petty theft and these crimes in a
lot of these cities, partly due to the demoralization of the police, the defunding of the police.
Hold on, hold on.
Nobody knows why it's happening.
That's what I learned on the media.
Yeah, nobody knows.
Last summer it was because it was summer.
And in the winter, maybe it was because it was winter.
But I don't know.
But nobody knows.
Yeah, they're like, you see, in the summer, it's warm,
giving more people the opportunity to go out,
and more people outside means more crime will happen.
Right.
And maybe they're hungrier and eat more bread.
And in the winter, it's darker, which means more opportunity to commit crime.
And then in the springtime, as the weather starts getting nicer,
people want to go back outside again.
So then crime just exponentially increases nonstop.
So it has nothing to do with defunding the police,
nothing to do with demoralization of police, just happenstance, just magic. Nothing to do with telling them to stand down, nothing to do with DAs know a demoralization of police just happenstance just
nothing to do with telling them to stand down nothing to do with da's letting people off if
they get arrested nothing to do nothing to do nothing nothing to do with the city of minneapolis
putting half a million dollars into an anti-autonomous zone hey we're at that point now
where it's like the autonomous zone has official government sanction you know in this place and
it's it's it's remarkable so where where where are the
conservative or right-wing autonomous zones because i i and i mean this right here in this
house i was gonna say yeah really no i'm talking about no no not at all what i'm specifically
talking about was uh uh when are we gonna start seeing right-wing dudes standing in the road
the high the the u.s state highway or, that leads into a small town of a few thousand people.
City blocks and stuff.
Just doing checkpoints.
They did this in the Pacific Northwest when the fires kept starting.
And this is one of the things, you know, Joe Rogan, one of the things I'm disappointed with him about is that he had said on his show, he was wrong, he made a mistake, that Antifa was going around starting these fires.
He then made an apology where he said none of it was true.
It's not happening.
The issue was that there was a guy who was like a leftist who was caught starting the
fires.
And there were other people, many, who were not politically affiliated, who were just
crazy firebug types.
So you need to explain to people, when these photos came out showing right-wing dudes with
signs saying, you know, checkpoint, and then they were explaining people are starting fires.
The media made it seem like conspiracy crackpots were tracking were scared of Antifa.
Sure, some of them were.
There was one story about a leftist who got arrested.
But a lot of irregular people like I don't care who they are or what their affiliation is.
They started fires.
And there was a handful of people across the West Coast that did.
So, you know, Joe's apology kind of just got it wrong.
But, you know, it's fine.
I don't think it was intentional.
But there are a lot of people on the left that absolutely engage in ongoing and sustained violence.
And over the past year, it's only worked.
So my point is—
And they're opportunistic to that stuff.
Right.
When are we going to see, in response to these autonomous zones, right-wing groups just setting up in their communities?
There was a viral video where, you know, Antifa group went into a neighborhood in Colorado and a bunch of regular guys just chased them out and did not go well for those guys.
Because actual working class, like, union boys, they're not scrawny suburbanite privileged white kids.
No, they're men who
went out and were basically like, welcome to my neighborhood. And the Antifa people ran off.
So I'm wondering if the city is going to give half a million dollars to benefit the George
Floyd Memorial site at 30th and Chicago, which has become an autonomous zone lockdown where
black clad individuals threaten journalists and refuse to let police in and the police haven't
been in in months, apparently. when do we see conservatives have a peaceful
autonomous zone where they set up checkpoints i mean you know the answer to that question never
and the answer is because the left owns the political warfare like i just said it's the
most important concept you've never heard of and uh why what's going to happen well you know what
the media is going to do with it immediately.
It could be as peaceful as peaceful.
It could be literally doing nothing but growing flowers, feeding the hungry,
bringing out whatever the most pro-social thing you can possibly imagine is,
and it's going to be a crazy right-wing militia group of KKK blah, blah, blah,
what they're going to say about it.
It's going to be white supremacist, white supremacist, white supremacist,
and because those words, those ideas, it's not just that they have power because that's one thing it's actually that they stick like the word conservative as somebody who like is never identified as one
has been tainted almost to the point of like absolute i guess taint it's just completely
poisoned and so conservatives seem to understand this i put this on Twitter a while back, and I said that the meme is mightier than the AR-15.
And a bunch of gun guys were like, well, I'll show you mine.
And I'm like, shut up.
I don't care.
It's like, shut up.
It's not true.
The only AR-15 rounds that were fired, I don't know how many actually fired, but three hit people from Kyle Rittenhouse.
Right, yeah.
He had two to three rounds
yeah so the only rounds that came out of it out of an ar-15 were like those like all summer
thereabouts you know approximately and why because every law-abiding gun owning citizen knew
that the second somebody opened fire guns are gone you know or the bid to take guns is going
to start and they knew the meme the meme meme of gun toting right wingers.
And look what happened to Kyle.
Like that was brutal.
Yep.
The meme was actually more powerful.
An AR-15 that you can't fire because you know,
it's going to get turned against you in the narrative war.
And you're going to lose that political war over it.
That meme is more powerful than the gun.
It's an ancient thought.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
Yeah.
That's what I was.
I mean,
I was riffing,
but it's an ancient, I didn't listen. Listen, I didn't quite think of that one myself. I'll tell you thought. The pen is mightier than the sword. Yeah, that's what I was riffing. But it's an ancient idea.
But listen, listen. I didn't quite think of that one myself.
I'll tell you what the real divide is, right?
So you've always been a fairly liberal person.
I have as well. And Ian, I think you
are pretty like... I used to be super
liberal. I mean,
super liberal.
Free everyone. We don't need weapons.
Everything can be fine. Just pie in the sky.
Borders are evil. Let everyone in. We can help everyone. All gun. We don't need weapons. Everything can be fine. Like just pie in the sky. Borders are evil.
Yeah, let everyone in.
We can help everyone.
Like all the time.
Crazy.
When I was younger, I was like an narco punk skateboarder.
You know, I could play Baby I'm an Anarchist on the guitar and I still can from Against Me.
And I know a lot of the Against Me songs.
I love that band.
And, you know, these days it's all changed quite a bit. But the one thing that I think defines the actual war, the culture war, is those who read beyond the headlines and those who don't.
That's it.
There's really good examples of this if you then go to conservative ones and do it.
Because what I've noticed recently is that as I've been browsing the subreddits of several prominent progressive YouTubers, they don't actually read the articles.
They'll comment on the headlines. And while it's true for most people, when I go to conservative,
you know, sites, not so much. And this is also exemplified in left-wing memes about conservatives.
So there was one that I saw on Reddit where they were mocking the
conservative subreddit because the conservative subreddit made a point about not allowing
billionaires the ability to manipulate and control our elections and big tech and things like that.
And they were mocking conservatives as if the conservatives were the ones who did it to
themselves. And it's like, I don't understand. If you actually read what they're talking about,
they're agreeing with you. Like you've convinced them or do you not agree with them anymore? The issue was the caricature
of the conservative from the headline does not accurately represent the real world. And that's
true for libertarians, be it left or right or centrists or whatever. And so what I found is,
why is it that the people who, you know, follow you, James, or would watch this show are more likely to be informed?
Is it because of this show?
No, I don't think so.
It's because of the nature of the individuals who would watch the show.
Yeah, I agree.
The people who go and turn on CNN and hear Wolf Blitzer say a bunch of white, you know, white supremacists stormed the Capitol to go.
Wow.
And they walk away.
And then you have the headline that appears on Twitter and says far right white white supremacist storm. Let's do a better example. You'll turn on CNN and they'll
say, the white supremacist group, the Proud Boys, their leader was arrested. And they'll go, whoa.
And you'll see the headline, white supremacist leader of Proud Boys arrested. And people will
see the headline and go, wow. And then people who are more inclined to watch shows like this like this will say okay click it and see a picture of a black man as the leader of the proud
boys and go wait what something doesn't make sense here yeah something and that's like the red pill
moment no that's exactly right you actually start reading the news that's that's red pill level one
right there yeah um that's where you see like the news the headline especially is lying to you
right and then you start finding the buried leads leads and you start finding the inconsistencies in the stories. You start noticing, you know, that the reporting doesn't match reality. And then all of a sudden you're like, wait a minute. And what it's all been framed up to be is like now you're a conservative. Right. Because you've read. Right. But you're not a conservative. You're actually somebody who engages information like fully or at least more than almost zero.
I'll tell you what else is really interesting, too, in this whole debacle.
There's another level to this.
Those who are algorithmically fed red-pilled type information countering the narrative and those who are actually engaged with the content in general.
What happens is there are a lot of people. So I was talking to
some guy I know today and he said, he's like, listen, man, you used to be really good at
everything. And now all you do is just basically like a hardcore Trump supporter. And it's all
you do is just always, always, always protecting Trump. And I was like, do you watch my show?
And I was like, because we do defend him. We do criticize him. He's like, I only ever see from you defending Trump.
And I said, have you considered that Facebook and YouTube are only giving you the videos I produce out of the, you know, three and a half hours per day that I produce?
They're only showing you the Trump article that, you know, that the Trump defense ones and you're they're ignoring the times we've talked about him when we, you know, we're critical of him on war and John Bolton and things like that.
I think we said John Bolton 5,000 times and criticized Trump for hiring a bunch of dumb people.
Certainly, we defended him, and I did vote for him.
That's true.
But there's a lot of people who were Trump supporters who only ever got from YouTube the videos that were like, Trump isn't that bad.
And then the times when I was like, here's what I don't like about Trump, and here's what I'm mad about, it doesn't go to them because they're less likely to click it.
So YouTube isn't incentivized to share those videos.
Then you'll get people on the left who are only fed that content because it's more likely to be watched by Trump supporters.
And then they're like, this is all he produces.
But then the people who actually engage with the content, who would watch every episode, I see them commenting online and they're like, we're talking about it.
He like criticizes them all the time especially ian you know and he's like when
luke and dave smith were on the show it was like a two hours of just nothing but ragging on trump
awesome but people don't get that show because the algorithm doesn't give it to him so trump
has a lot to be ragged not to take it too far away from what you're saying but all these people have
enough to be critical about i think i mean sure. And this was actually one of the points that I raised is one of the main reasons I voted for Trump was because the media is like relentlessly, like totally, actually unfairly critical of Trump constantly.
And they were at the time covering up the Hunter Biden laptop story.
It's like there's no evidence they're going to be critical of Biden.
They're actually covering up a story that's critical of Biden
right now. And I was like, if the media, I mean, the media's function, the point of a free press
is to be able to criticize power in a free country. And if that's not happening by whatever
set of, you know, for whatever set of reasons, then you have to become skeptical of the side
that benefits from that. And that was part of the reason that I wanted to vote for Trump.
Seems like a symbiotic reason, like the clicks, like you were saying,
it's a clickbait thing. So they're making money off of it. And it's also politically
infusive for this liberal economic order, basically. Well, right. Plus, I think Tim
was describing that there's an echo chamber aspect to the algorithm. The algorithm gets
better and better and better. It's driven by machine learning. So it gets better and better
and better at predicting what kinds
of things you will click on and therefore play
the first five seconds of an ad of
that they make some fraction of a penny off
of unless you accidentally click on the ad and then
they make some slightly more fraction of a penny.
Accidentally click on it? I mean, has anybody ever
actually clicked on one of those things on purpose?
Unless I missed the skip it button. I click on ads
on Instagram all the time. Yeah, Instagram's dangerous.
Dude, there's cool stuff.
There was one where it was like a mini lightsaber.
All I can tell you then.
It was a torch, but it was awesome.
All I can tell you then is that your algorithms are getting to know you very well.
I know.
Dude, they showed me this solar torch thing it's called, whatever, and it's got like a jet, like super long.
And he like melts through a tin can.
What?
And I was like, I have to buy that that is sort
of a seriously man toy that every man does need like could you send me that ad actually yeah no
there is one here but literally i was just like i can get a torch faster so i just went and bought
a torch yeah i was like cool and then we like we have fires in the back sometimes so i was like i
just use the torch yeah no that's fun but no the truth is though that the the whole point is that
the algorithm is supposed to learn what you'll click on because it drives their ad revenues.
There doesn't have to be a nefarious plot.
You don't have to have, you know, whoever the directors of YouTube in these shadowy rooms saying, oh, we're going to turn this all left, all left, all left.
It doesn't have to be that.
These algorithms are going to feed people echo chambers.
And that's how you end up getting, like, conspiracy theories, like whether it's QAnon or blue anon or whatever anon or whale anon i made up on twitter whale anon
oh that was when twitter you know they made that was a bird bird watcher thing you know and they
put that they put a fake tweet well i don't know if it still exists but they made that like fake
news is everywhere on twitter and they put you know a sample fake tweet and it said whales
whales are not real they're robots paid for by the government to control you.
And I was like, this is whaling on.
And so I'm like making memes like they look like a Q.
And it was a whale, though, with a tail.
So here's what happens.
There was a study a few years ago where they tracked various networks on Twitter and then created a visualization.
I saw that.
They found that digital marketing overlaps with the resistance, the establishment democratic
position.
That means the, what is that, hashtag?
Hashtag the resistance, yeah.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
So what happens is Pepsi and Coke and Oreo and whatever big brands, Nabisco, their ad
campaigns live in the same universe as anti-Trump Democrats.
So their advertisements are crafted around this core group of individuals, which means
if they see a video where someone's sitting there like with their eyes half closed and
they go, I like Donald Trump, they go, get our ads off that video.
And then Google says, OK, OK, OK.
And then Google goes, we just lost a 50 million dollar
contract what happened the guy said he likes trump okay well ban it ban it we're losing 50
million dollars yeah it is yep there it is i mean i can tell you something a little scarier than
that i happen to know some people who work in you know ai development and all of this and so this
guy called me a while back and he's like kind of big into all this. He's like a PhD in it or whatever.
And he's like, yeah, I don't know if you know that they're actually, you know, you have machine learning or whatever, the algorithms and how they work.
They actually, the people who are behind that, you know, you have to, with a machine learning algorithm, it's like the machine makes a guess,
and then humans are training it by saying, yeah, it was a good guess or a bad guess, right?
In many, not always, but in a lot of cases.
And they're literally using intersectionality as the guide to decide what the right and
wrong answers are.
And so it's like, you know, oh, was this white supremacy?
You know, it's intersectionality is how they're using to decide that kind of stuff.
And that's what's getting baked into those algorithms.
Meanwhile, they publish articles with the iron law of wokeion saying white supremacy is in all of the algorithms.
We have to put more intersectionality into the algorithms.
A few years ago, I was hanging out with you and Helen Pluck Rose and Peter Boghossian, and I got in an argument with Peter.
That's not a surprise.
And it was because I was saying that the media was creating this.
It was social media and the algorithms, and he was adamant that it was coming from the universities.
I think both are true.
Both are true.
But the point I made was this.
I literally watched this happen.
I experienced this.
I started working in digital media spaces end of 2011.
I officially started working for Vice in 2013.
I went to Disney.
I watched how they implemented these things, why they wanted to do it.
They explained it to me, and I explained to them why they were wrong. But what happened was it's very,
very simple. It's a simple algorithmic equation. When Facebook started rising in prominence and
attention and generating ad revenue, they started to notice that police brutality videos were
skyrocketing in viewership. Something about it was just getting more shares and more attention.
And there's like a viral song. This is what happens when you call the cops. in viewership. Something about it was just getting more shares and more attention.
And there's like a viral song. This is what happens when you call the cops.
There were websites dedicated to nothing but police brutality videos in the Alexa top 500.
Absolutely crazy. All they would do is just aggregate police brutality videos.
Now, sidetrack, I'm sure a lot of young people who are swimming in that are now activists saying defund the police because they
their whole brains were mashed by it but something else happened if you made a post and said police
brutality the algorithm recognized people love this stuff send it to them more but then something
else happened there were also videos about social justice, racism, sexism. The algorithm also said, man, people love these videos.
Send it to everyone.
And then something magical happened.
Racism skyrocketing, police brutality skyrocketing.
And then all of a sudden someone made racist police brutality.
And then if a racism video would get X views and a police brutality video would get Y views,
a police brutality and racism
segment would get x y views well i should say x plus y because i don't want to assume it's
exponential x y minus 20 or some algorithm of it would be an increase and so this created a space
when digital news outlets started getting tons of venture capital funding they started to realize
this is how you make money
a good example uh is there's an expose on mike.com are you familiar with mike.com yeah
this still exists right um when they started they were libertarian they were ron paul libertarian
apparently so it's been reported and it was because ron paul was very popular online the
ron paul love revolution so they, okay, let's write these articles.
Then they started to play that game. At least it's been reported this, I'm of, do you want to avoid litigation? But so this is what I read and I could be wrong. But my understanding is that
they started putting out articles on social justice and then creating formulas where it was
like, you know, X has an X problem or X has a Y problem.
And then all of a sudden combining these different things was getting more and more views and
traffic.
Because if you had a community of people who watched police brutality in a community of
people who watch social justice, you mix those communities together and you maximize your
viewership.
This pushed intersectionality as the perfect ideology.
All of a sudden started there's one article
from vice i can't remember the exact title but it was like trans women of color being beaten by
police proves the the requirement proves why we need black lives matter and it was just like every
possible keyword mashed into a headline to get as much traffic as possible to maximize revenue
and so long as advertisers don't mind being on these psychotic i mean this
is like the when you read these articles like there was a joke meme where a guy is like sitting
in a room and he's uh trying to write a name for a vice article he's trying to come up with a vice
article so he pulls a an adult toy out of a box and throws it at the wall and it just sticks and
then he's like transgender ketamine dealers of columbia or something just random that's that's basically
what was happening and then the advertisers are like i'm okay with this and so as long as that
system functioned and advertisers didn't care it was fine and then they found their boogeyman with
trump we saw gamergate happen this was i mean the start of the culture war it's a very interesting
thing and i'm not i can't get into culture war, it's a very interesting thing.
And I can't get into history, mostly because it's very complicated.
I think the Gamergate was the first battle.
But what I think happened was these video game websites.
What do you write about?
You have a job. Your job is to write five articles per day or three articles per day.
You've already wrote every walkthrough for the new Zelda game.
What do you write
no new game coming out until the holiday season um speed runner did a speed run all right uh oh
video games racist oh yeah and sexist and anti-gay kkk go away put it all in the headline and we got
a hit article and then every day they had to do that and then all of a sudden that's what gaming became say the sexist thing too and you put like a picture
of like a bikini anime chick or something like that and then like you're also just getting guys
that are like oh yeah the chicken bikini because even though it's a cartoon click whoops you have
like a sexist article a racist article uh an anti-gay article and then you'd make the sexist
racist anti-gay article and then those writers would go to other companies and write an anti-gay article and then you'd make the sexist racist anti-gay article and then those writers would go to other companies and write an anti-gay article over there that would
enable them to to you know get a telephone so it happened fast too yeah big time that's true
because people were so hungry and they desperately want this confirmation bias and they love
tribalism but what happened is you'd get one article you know where this outlet would write
some nonsensical drama about completely not – just total BS.
Video gamer accused of stealing $100 from their ex.
And then people would click on it and they'd be like, I can't believe he really did that.
And the story nowhere in it would actually say it actually happened.
But then another outlet would pick it up and be like, I can't believe so-and-so was accused of doing this.
Then the next article would say multiple reports now citing that this happened.
And then it loops all the way back around and they create a circular feedback loop of sourceless garbage.
And the whole thing is just algorithmically trying to generate revenue.
Here's the best part, though.
They've created this feedback loop where they're
basically parasites right you know like i think the conversations we have are imperfect we're not
the best we said we engage in culture war stuff too and nobody is perfect but i think we try to
have legitimate conversations really break down these ideas to the best of our abilities what
they do is they just leech and parasite so recently recently we had this journalist from Axios got a job at Teen Vogue as the editor-in-chief.
Right.
Well, the people who work there wrote a letter trying to get that editor-in-chief canceled for 10-year-old tweets.
In response, it was a seven-figure ad deal was pulled.
Frozen.
The article said they lost it.
Then it said it was frozen because of the controversy.
So this company, Teen Vogue, which is supposed to be a fashion magazine, and now it's like writing about Marx and social justice and critical theory,
hires on people who are good at writing about intersectionality because it gets a lot of clicks.
And then those people attack their own company, costing their own company seven figures. So perhaps there's some optimism in all of this
in that these people are just consuming themselves
and will eventually just be a withered husk
in the corner of nothing.
Yeah, I mean, that is actually the hope.
And that's sort of the mentality behind the people
that are so-called accelerationists.
They want to kind of encourage this to happen faster
or to get people to see it.
I'll just take the story that you told
just to kind of complete the, since we mentioned
scholarship and that's what I do, I can plug the scholarship into your story because the
majority of those people, you know, that you said they work for a video game magazine or
whatever.
Some of them did.
A lot of them were freelancers.
In both cases, these people probably studied something like media studies, especially the
freelancers.
What was the joke?
You know, we're talking Gamergate was 2014, right?
Yeah.
So what was the joke you know we're talking gamergate was 2014 right yeah so what was the joke the joke was um you know you get a degree in something like gender studies or media studies or something and you're going to be a barista no well probably you might
be but you're also going to be a freelancer because you think you're a great writer and
you have great insights so what are they going to start writing these sexist racist homophobic
blah blah you know keyword or articles about well they're going to start writing these sexist, racist, homophobic, blah, blah, blah, you know, keyword or articles about? Well, they're going to start infusing that theory. And then various touch
points happen in society that then mainstream it. But what's happening is these bloggers or
freelance journalists, I should say, are essentially starting to infuse that theory into pop culture.
And that theory has been cranking for 50 years saying, you know, by the way, guys,
society actually is secretly fascist.
It's secretly racist.
It's secretly sexist.
Racism, critical race theories, kind of central thesis could be boiled down to racism never gets better.
It just hides itself better.
And then you have these little cutesy, you know, graduates in these stupid degrees become freelance writers.
And then it's keyword city, right?
It's buzzword city racist
video game racist movie racist dr seuss racist your mom whatever it happens to be and uh one
thing after another and then these are the people who are poised to write these little fluff piece
well they're like it's like the hit version of a fluff piece right no content it's like it's like
a it's like a bundle of thorns or something instead of a fluff but
these are the people are going to write these things and they start injecting the ideas of
systemic racism and systemic sexism and all of these kind of critical theory ideas into the pop
culture through those mediums and that if you go way back i mean that was actually gramsci's plan
not to get heavy in theory but antonio gramsci, the, I'm supposed to always say Albanian Italian.
I said that he was Italian, which is true.
And these Italian people wrote me these emails.
They were like, call him Albanian Italian, please.
Don't stick him to us.
Don't make him.
He was brilliant, actually.
The guy was probably one of the sharpest minds of the 20th century.
Unfortunately, he was also a communist. And he was the one who realized that you have to underpin or you have to undermine the pillars of culture in order to take over a society.
And he identified those as being in religion, family, media, education and law.
So that media pillar, that's what the goal was. He said, what you have to do is you have to get inside.
If you want to take a pillar of culture down, you get inside of it and you create a counter hegemony within the existing hegemony and start making it grow.
And basically when you say parasite, that's what you're talking about.
It's get latch on and then grow the strength of that thing.
Like a Sith or something.
I don't know.
I'm not a Star Wars.
You're the one with the torches.
But I mean, that's the idea, right?
Is to get in there and to start infusing these critical ideas.
This is a plan that's been, like, cooking up scholarly for 100 years that had actually no real way to work until all of a sudden we cooked up this.
I've been thinking about this a lot lately in the last, I don't know, three months.
Social media and then, I don't know what to call it, but, like, just kind of, like, grubby media.
You know, like, you know, little grubby articles like these different...
Gawker was just a propaganda place or whatever.
It got taken down.
Games of telephone articles that regurgitate the same thing written by somebody else.
Grub media.
It's called churnalism.
Churnalism, yeah.
Or urinalism, according to Jeremy Hanby, the quartering today.
Urinalism.
You said that the Sith were parasitic.
I like that because the Sith apprentice parasite off the master grows strong and then kills the master.
I mean, right there.
I mean, it's like the whole plan.
It's basically, you know, Emperor Palpatine taking over, becoming the chancellor and everyone cheers for it.
I mean, there you go.
But I'm not I'm convinced more and more regular people hate all of this oh
totally i would bet i was talking to somebody the other day about it and somebody said the guy said
i think that we are in the majority and i was like we're not just in a majority we're not even
in a super majority i bet it's north of 90 percent yeah north of 90 percent of people at best to the
degree that they're aware of it or annoyed by it or insulted by it or
think it's ridiculous and cowardly but that's the problem yeah i'll um i'll get to a point where i
have a clear mind i'll wake up in the morning and i'll put on like facebook or something and
i'll feel like i'm being twisted and destroyed into some dark tunnel and i'll have to stop and
put it away and leave i mean that's why i used to call i mean it's a formal term that comes out of
uh jock derrida postmodern philosophy but i used to call i mean it's a formal term that comes out of uh
jock derrida postmodern philosophy but i used to call twitter a deconstruction machine
it deconstructs anything you put you put you know for myself a video of myself using a sword
immediately people add benny benny hill music and try to make a joke out of it like like you can't
make a joke out of something i think is awesome like it's just not gonna work like i know i look
awesome just shut up you know somebody changed it into an eggplant a giant eggplant instead of a Like you can't make a joke out of something I think is awesome. Like it's just not going to work. Like I know I look awesome.
Just shut up.
You know, somebody changed it into an eggplant, a giant eggplant instead of a giant sword.
I'm like, I just downloaded that and like that's like a meme I share now.
Yeah, it's fun. But no, anything you put on the internet is going on Twitter, on social media, I should say, not the internet, is going to get.
I'm so stuck on the German now.
It's going to get Alfkehoban almost immediately.
It's going to get deconstructed. It's going to get, Alfgehoban almost immediately is going to get deconstructed.
It's going to get taken apart.
It's going to get turned into this dialectical soup
where it gets chewed up
and spit back at you
into broken pieces,
like you said,
that eventually go into,
they become the grist
that goes into that
closed circle of garbage media.
And this is actually the process.
Because that crap on
twitter becomes the article that becomes your wikipedia page right yeah i actually made some
food like this once i didn't i have a meat processor and i put in a nice fine steak and
then i put in some some fish and some chicken and it became a goop and then i fed all the goop right
back in and then i fed all the goop right back in and it became a grayish paste and that's basically
what it is totally i have no idea what it is but apparently you're supposed to eat it it's chicken nuggets chicken nuggets well i
mean it was just meat medley meat punch the wikipedia thing though you're absolutely right
dude you know what was on my wikipedia for a while like my wiki i haven't knew it's fairly
new i've only had a wikipedia entry for a few months and like right off the bat somebody
said like i'm like my wikipedia it said you know j know, James Lindsay portrays himself as a serious commentator.
He wrote a book, How to Have Impossible Conversations, and yet he goes on Twitter and makes your mom jokes.
That was on my Wikipedia.
Yeah.
And then that got taken off.
And then somebody else, I don't know who put it, I'm assuming a fan of mine, went on and put that James Lindsay has gigantic balls of brass.
Hey, there you go.
That was on my Wikipedia for a while.
Wikipedia is the meat goop.
I'm actually, this is probably bad in the bigger picture, but I'm here for it.
Do it.
Do you know the Zeppelin story?
For like seven years, my Wikipedia claimed that I invented a Zeppelin.
Some kind of autonomous flying camera on a zeppelin and it was because i guess there was
some writer who overheard just like uh we were having like a hacker space kind of conversation
about crazy ideas and then somehow they wrote that i actually invented a zeppelin and then
that's it it's fact and no matter how many times i was like bro i didn't invent a zeppelin man it's
like we're talking about.
I bought a consumer drone and me and my buddy hacked the drone to broadcast live footage
during Occupy Wall Street.
It was like one of the first times, I think maybe the first time there was a live news
broadcast via drone.
We weren't working for a big corporation, so it was just online.
But it was amazing.
I was like flying a drone over this Occupy protest.
And then it couldn't fly that long.
We talked about a bunch of crazy ideas.
And apparently an article came out that was total BS that wouldn't correct it and didn't want to correct it because it was a fun story.
And then Wikipedia was like, Tim Pool invented a drone.
And I was like, I didn't.
And they're like, too bad.
You're not reliable.
So you know what?
I'm here for it.
I think I think that was the Tim.
That was the Tim Pool blimp is what that was, right?
Yeah.
Or the good Tim blimp.
It said Zeppelin. It said literally said Zepp Or the good Tim blimp. It said Zeppelin.
It literally said Zeppelin modification or something.
So look.
Tim Zeppelin.
I want to preserve the important cultural institutions that have helped bring about civil rights, real social justice.
But at this point, I think the entire system, it's already falling apart.
It is.
The Jenga tower is in free fall.
That's a perfect metaphor.
These guys are just knocking pegs out, and it's only a matter of time till the fault thing falls down so you think
accelerationism what i'm maybe a little bit but not necessarily it's very targeted i think i know
where you're going well here's what i'm going to say uh wikipedia is is fundamentally broken
and it it's it's extremely susceptible to attack right now yeah uh but
there's there's a there's a i wouldn't call it accelerationism but an opportunity to prove the
paradox radikipedia well so so here's what happened right i tweeted impeach the queen
yeah we talked about the other night and a news guard certified website wrote an article saying
tim pool calls for the impeachment of queen elizabeth people supported saying, let's convene Congress. Like this person who wrote it
was one of the worst journalists imaginable. Didn't understand you can't impeach the queen
that Congress has no power, even if you could to interfere with another country's monarch
wrote the article. And then here's the best part on Wikipedia. They're actually arguing
over whether or not it should be included. And for a while, somebody put it in and they
started taking like Tim Pool has called,
you know, in 2021, Tim Pool called for the impeachment of Queen Elizabeth.
And then people are like, we have to put it in.
Other people are like, you can't put it in.
And then someone actually linked to the video where I was laughing, saying,
I made the whole thing up.
I know how this system works and I can make a joke.
And then Wikipedia must treat it as fact.
So you have one faction saying saying we know he's basically
you know screwing around and it was a joke tweet there's a wink like a wink meme on it and then
someone saying we don't have the right to choose what we determine is true or false that's original
research and it's banned on wikipedia you have to go by the sources and newsguard has certified
the source a whole thing is broken. That's totally broken.
Ridicipedia, that's the name of this project.
What, you're working on a project?
No, I'm just telling you.
That's the name of your project, Ridicipedia.
Turn it ridiculous.
You talk about how Twitter and everything.
This is a deconstruction.
It's like a counter-deconstruction.
Like, they want to build a counter-hegemony.
I want to do a counter-deconstruction.
So there's a lot of journalists who will write whatever you tweet as law.
And so if you engage on Twitter seriously and say things that you actually mean,
they'll write articles about what you say, or they'll take things out of context to make it
worse. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm all for Biden, baby. 100%. Biden 2024. I'm tweeting
things like, you know, I believe in you joe i tweeted one i was
like if we all cheer for joe maybe he'll send us the next 600 i believe in you and so at a certain
point you have to do jazz hands for joe well here's the important thing all of my tweets are
100 serious that's it that's all i care about um i think i think i've crafted a a strategy
that creates a paradox that cannot be countered in any reasonable capacity.
I'm sure there'll be attempts,
but the ultimate issue is this.
I tweeted abolish the ATF.
I tweeted abolish the IRS,
which one of those,
if any,
are my actual opinions.
I also tweeted,
you know,
there was a study saying that,
you know,
Fauci says something like COVID lockdowns.
We are, they said something like, we don't know if there's ever going to be an end to the pandemic.
And so then I said, OK, then release all the restrictions.
There's actual opinions in there.
Which one's the real one?
Maybe you can come to one of my, you know, podcasts and try and figure out how I really
feel about things.
Do I really want to abolish the ATF?
I said abolishing the police is wrong.
What's my real opinion?
Go ahead and figure it out, journalists.
You won't be able to, which means any tweet ever used by any publication from me will
be them publishing complete bunk BS because you will not be able to determine which one
of my tweets is real.
Yeah, I do this.
I change my name when I do it.
You know, I often change my name on Twitter.
So this is inspiring me, by the way.
I got to change my name on Twitter back to king of your mom so that some journalist
puts that my wikipedia but he really does think he's the king of your mom um but because i am but
no uh i changed my name though to lames genzy lames genzy is my troublemaking like if i'm going
to say you know very smart opinions if i'm a very gently james lindsey is is a deplorable or something now. And so Lames Ginzy is my very smart person persona.
He has all the correct opinions. But by doing that
you're making sure they know which one is the real and which one is the...
The problem here is that when you change your name, it changes
your name on all your tweets. So I do it and I make the tweets and like an hour later it doesn't make any
sense. So then I have the same paradox.
I just throw a wink and a nod to my peeps that actually pay close attention to me.
I'm also going to tweet a lot of nice things about lefties.
Good.
Just to be nice.
Throw them off.
Just to be nice.
But it's really funny.
My favorite thing to tweet about lefties is like, you know, is what the president said.
I don't know which president.
A president. Some president said that you can't hate the haters and losers.
You got to love them because they can't help that they were born effed up.
It's true.
I mean, it does help even to win a war.
If you love the enemy, you'll be better served at destroying them.
You know, if you were fighting them, i look at it this way you know i was
approaching everything wrong for the longest time i knew that my word was meaningless for wikipedia
and for these journalists there was uh you're like the zeppelin thing should have been a really
strong wake-up call for me no matter how many times i kept screaming i didn't make a zeppelin
people were like the guardian i think was the guardian that wrote it so like shut up you're
not allowed and so it's like okay why don't I just give ridiculous quotes to journalists and let them write things and then have that be.
Could you imagine the historical record?
I did that to Zach Beauchamp whenever he interviewed me about the grievance studies affair.
He called me and it was like the most leading conversation ever.
He was like, wow, that's very interesting.
I learned something new.
I had no idea that was true.
Could you tell me a lot more about that?
And I was like, I'm just going gonna plant quotes and see what he see what he publishes and he wrote the best article
ever i love it i mean it terribly it's awful to me but it's so funny because i know what i said
and i know what i want he published things i wanted him to publish right so i owned him and
he doesn't even to this day he has no idea that i absolutely owned him on that article i think
there's two things people can do they don't realize become active on wikipedia and then the interesting thing was
watching people on wikipedia who are like they have legitimate accounts and they're long-standing
editors arguing over the philosophy and merits and the rules of wikipedia and it just becomes
absolute it's bedlam like you can't use original research but tim pool admitted it i don't care if
he admitted it and they're just fighting.
Yeah, this is beautiful.
What are you going to do?
Because, I mean, it reduces Wikipedia to absurdum.
Like, it's not even like it's an unreliable source like all your college professors might have told you or your high school teachers or whoever.
It's like it's actually just reduced to absurdity.
Yep.
One of my favorite things is that, like, I haven't taken Twitter seriously in a really long time.
Oh, no, that's key. You can't taken Twitter seriously in a really long time. Oh, no.
That's key.
You can't take Twitter seriously.
You're doing it wrong.
All these people are mad at me.
They're like, what are you doing on Twitter?
I'm like having fun.
It's like a sewer pipe.
Like as fun as a sewer pipe.
I mean, it's not like.
That's what I used to say.
It just sends information out in the form of whatever you want to send through.
I said it was a sewer that followed you back in the day.
But my other buddy said, no, it's more like a dumpster fire you pack up in a backpack and take with you and i thought that was the best way to go with you
right well accelerationism i think is the wrong is the wrong idea typically people use it to refer
to like physical chaos and violence and stuff but i think like screwing with the press to prove
the the failures and the paradox of these systems i I wouldn't call it accelerationism. I would call that like...
It's almost like sabotage.
It's almost like...
Well, it is.
Sabotage can be a form of acceleration.
Like if a dam is cracking and you're like, dude, that dam is going to break and kill millions of people.
So you go and you smash the dam.
You accelerate what's going to happen anyway because you're like, let's just get it over with.
But you're the one that's blamed for destroying the dam.
I'm not talking about that.
What I'm talking about is so long as the media goes unchecked, it will not be a dam that's
about to break.
It will last forever and it will grow and they make lots of money.
I think it has to break eventually.
Don't you?
No.
Crazy culture war.
I mean, until they drive people to kill each other.
See, my usual answer with that is the truth is always going to win in the end.
Right.
So it will break. But the Soviet Union lasted 70 years. I don't think that's a long time of stuff. I don that is the truth is always going to win in the end, right? So it will break.
But the Soviet Union lasted 70 years.
And that's a long time of sucks.
I don't think the truth always lasts.
I think the winner of the war writes the history.
I mean, reality is still going to bat last.
The lie only maintains so long.
And whether you know what actually happened or not is a different question.
But the dam, which I'm thinking of it as the ability to continue maintaining the lie, that will give.
And it will eventually, the truth will out.
But the problem is, is that, you know, A, like I said, the Soviet Union lasted 70 years of not that good, to put it mildly.
The China is still going.
Yeah, it's been a long time.
It's still not great.
And simultaneously, you know, when you're talking about something like a cultural revolution, which is frankly what we're in the midst of, accelerationism can push people.
Like you're talking about a dam breaking and millions of people dying.
Yes.
Tens of millions of people died in the cultural revolution.
You are correct.
And accelerating toward that rather than trying to figure out a way to divert the course of the river um is probably not the best strategy i have
an analogy it's like you're in a car right and you're like on a on an abandoned train track
and you can see that up ahead the bridge is out and if you try and slow down you might just go
off the cliff but if you slam that gas baby you could jump the gorge and then or reach, what, 88 miles an hour?
That's what I'm going to say.
You got to hit 88 miles per hour.
And then back in time when the bridge was still there.
Yeah.
No, no.
Forward in time.
Forward in time.
When the bridge was completed.
Even better.
But you need to have like a pink.
Actually, that's a really interesting.
In Back to the Future, the bridge wasn't there yet.
And they hit 88 and then hit the future where the
bridge did exist.
And it wasn't about going super fast.
It was just the right speed.
So nobody died.
There was no destruction.
So perhaps if we,
if no,
no,
the train went off though and blew up,
there was some destruction.
So maybe the,
but the train was blowing up anyway.
Cause that crazy chemist put those,
um,
pink logs in there that were blowing its baskets and stuff.
Right.
So wait,
wait, wait.
Great Scott.
So here's the analogy.
1.21 gigawatts.
We're all in the woke train.
And if we don't get it to the right speed, the DeLorean won't make it to the future where the bridge is complete and we can all live peacefully.
But the woke train is going to go off no matter what.
That's correct, actually.
I think that's a good way.
That was like.
Pop culture reference.
I was like, this is going right off the
gorge the whole no and then it landed you landed that tim these these there's a lot of progressive
pundits who get really triggered by by pop culture references yeah i'm like you know like you don't
have to like it i don't care probably a lot of people might not like it 1.21 gigawatts regular
people understand pop culture and it's interesting to me, who are these progressives who don't watch movies and don't watch TV shows and are not part of culture?
Maybe that's why they're in this weird space where they believe these weird things.
They're sad.
They're sad.
How fun is it to talk about Back to the Future?
It was way better.
It was a great movie.
It was fun.
That was three, right?
That was three.
Three was great.
I loved it.
Christopher Lloyd.
He's incredible.
He's good. Okay, so we're thing. Christopher Lloyd. He's incredible. He's good.
Hey, do you.
Okay.
So we're talking about accelerationism, the cancel, the culture war.
Do you think that it's like a Chinese or a communist intentional plot to subvert the
political structure?
One of many that this guy, what was the guy's name?
The Albanian guy.
Oh, Antonio Gramsci.
This communist conceptual artist, Antonio Gramsci.
Gramsci.
Do you think they're using that philosophy now to try and undercut American society?
Yes and no. More yes than no.
The infiltration of the institutions and the establishment of a counter hegemony and a counter state, which the peeps on the right call a deep state, is certainly something that's, uh, that's been explicit by the radical left intelligentsia. Uh, it was definitely adopted by big players like
Herbert Marcuse in the 1960s. And you're like, who? He was a rock star. He had huge followings.
You're talking 1960s and he could like pack a house at 300,000, you know, sales of his book
in the first like couple of years that came out or something in the 60s.
So he was a rock star on the left.
He was mentor to Angela Davis.
We're talking about BLM and the prison stuff.
He was her PhD mentor at UCSD.
And so it's like he's not a fringe figure.
And he deliberately said in the 1960s that it's time for the leftist intelligentsia in the universities to start teaming up with the cultural outsiders and the racial minorities specifically to form
kind of a block that would operate in kind of unison by the racial minorities.
He didn't, of course, mean racial minorities.
What he meant was the radicalizable black liberationists who are operating within his
paradigm, which was the paradigm that was identified by the Communist Party in the 20s and 30s as the wedge issue that would open America.
So there is an element to where it's very deliberate.
Now, your typical woke person never heard of any of this, has no idea.
They're just trying to be a good person.
They put their black square on their Instagram.
They're like, but I do care about racism.
And they have no idea about any of it.
Your typical professor of gender studies probably has a dim idea at best,
maybe hasn't even ever heard of Gramsci. So probably has no idea that this actually was
a communist plot, although they're going to still say, you know, down with capitalism,
down with capitalism. On my flight in here, I was actually reading Herbert Marcuse's
essay on liberation, which was written in 1969. And he's just like, all through it, he's like,
you know, what we have to do is abolish capitalism in order to make room for socialism. So this was
certainly something that was in that line of thought all the way back, you know, in the 60s
and was deliberately implanted into the scholarly literature in the universities very intentionally
then. So there is an intentional aspect to it.
It's also modeled after what we are experiencing as a cultural revolution.
You brought up China.
The Chinese had a cultural revolution in the 66 through 76 or 65 through 75 or something like that.
The way for that was paved.
I know Mao was his own special kind of character,
but the way for that was paved with the same rhetoric as we see in critical race theory applied to the Han race instead of the
white race. Talked about Han supremacy starting in the 1920s in China, started talking about
some people were good Hans and some people were Han supremacists, like separating all the rhetoric
mirrors really closely exactly what was going on, and they started to create basically racial
disharmony throughout China.
And then that was kind of part of the grounds upon which that instability that Mao was able
to step in.
Who, when you say, though, is your typical critical race theorist a Marxist?
Well, some of them are.
I mean, you had the founders of Black Lives Matter come out and say, you know, we're trained
Marxists.
They got caught on video saying that.
Was that Patricia Cullors? I don't think they were caught on saying it. I think they were proudly saying it. Well, I know they proudly're trained Marxists. They got caught on video saying that. Was that Patricia Cullors?
I don't think they were caught on saying it.
I think they were proudly saying it.
Well, I know they proudly were saying it.
It was like a public thing.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, and if you read their website before they scrubbed it, it was like comrades
this, comrades that.
The Black Lives Matter fist is actually just the communist fist.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
It's not even the Black Lives Matter fist, but people call it that.
Right.
I mean, that's exactly right.
It is just a communist fist.
So there's something very deliberate there.
But again, your average critical race theorist may not know very much of this because they're just caught up in the theory.
You're just going along with the theory.
So there's like this lack of intentionality.
But then you say, who's funding this?
Who's dumping?
Of course, the universities are giving it space.
But who's funding this?
And you start looking at the various, you know, huge organizations that are funding this, throwing billions of dollars into it.
You have, for example, Kimberly Crenshaw is one of the – she is the creator of intersectionality.
She was one of the creators of critical race theory.
She was a – she cites Angela Davis, who we just mentioned is a student of Marcuse.
Well, she runs this thing called the African American Policy
Forum that's almost completely funded by the Open Society Foundation. This is one of these
big billionaire philanthropists that's basically dumping money into this.
That's George Soros.
That's Soros, yeah. What's the agenda there? Was he a communist? Well, I don't know. I have no idea.
Mackenzie Bezos also put $2 billion into critical theory.
Yeah, I mean, tons of them. I mean, the Oregon Ethregon ethnic studies ethnic math program that just made headlines everywhere where they're like focusing
on the right answers white supremacy culture two plus two is five two plus two is well that one's
not in there but it's it's in the wheelhouse yeah but ethno mathematics for the state of oregon which
just got pushed through by law i think into their schools that's funded by bill and melinda gates
the whole program was funded by the bill and melinda gates foundation and so it's like there are are they is bill and
melinda are they communists i mean it's like i don't know i don't think so maybe um so just like
i don't know what's what's a good word for people like that you know like um megalomaniac i mean
megalomaniac is usually usually kind of the, right? Yeah. It's people who think that they have the capacity to just step in and do good.
Like the bad guy in the movie.
They know how to – yeah.
I'm glad you brought that up.
Isn't that film just a bit on the nose?
Yeah.
Like they even make the My Fair Lady reference.
What's that?
Okay.
So you know the story of my fair lady right
it was like a woman was like a tramp or something yeah yeah eliza do little and so this is written
by george bernard shaw it was actually originally titled pygmalion and modeled after the pygmalion
myth but we don't have to go into pygmalion um so eliza do little is this tramp basically
and these two rich guys find her and they're like i have a bet you know and
they're gonna they're gonna bring her in and teach her her manners well enough to fake it and if she
can get to the end of this you know fancy dinner at the end of a certain amount of time and convince
everybody that she's not basically a flower girl which i think is what it actually is she's selling
flowers or something and that's course, a symbol for something.
Then, you know, one or the other wins the bet,
and it's all this gentleman's bet or whatever.
And so that's what My Fair Lady is about.
So that was written, though, by George Bernard Shaw,
who was the leader of the Fabian Socialists,
which had the crest of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
And it had the explicit agenda.
If you could look up there, they have a stained glass window.
It's very famous.
It's called the Fabian glass or the Fabian window.
And it actually says something.
It shows the world heated up on a forge set on an anvil, and they're hitting it with hammers.
And one of the people hitting it is George Bernard Shaw.
And it's like heated up and remolded to the heart's desire or something like that.
So they're trying to reshape the world, and they were socialists. And the goal was incremental sneaking in of socialism, wolf in sheep's clothing, so that
people don't realize what you're doing.
It says, remold it nearer to the heart's desire.
Yeah, that's what it says.
That's right.
Pray devoutly, hammer stoutly.
Wow.
Yeah.
So this is actually a really famous piece of glass.
The Fabian Society is not well known now.
It, I think, still exists.
It spun off the Labour Party in the UK and probably the other labor parties it also spun off the london school of economics which
is probably it's kind of main operating base of think tanks now and the reference like at the
very beginning of kingsman you know you have again this kind of like roughneck essex cockney kid
right and he's just like all kinds of in trouble because he grew up without his dad.
His dad died in the thing.
And he has a special like Kingsman thing if he ever gets in trouble.
And he's always going around and horsing around getting in trouble.
And he's foul-mouthed.
It's really kind of funny the way he talks, you know.
Eggsy is his name.
And then he ends up getting in trouble and he calls and it's like these gentlemen appear.
And now they're going to make him into a gentleman warrior.
Yeah.
Secret service agent.
Gentleman spy.
And, you know, the movie's hilarious.
It's really worth watching.
It's like a semi, I don't know, it's not even semi-serious.
It's spoof off of like James Bond type stuff.
It's pretty serious.
But it's pretty serious too.
Yeah.
But like it kind of, it plays into the silliness of the gentleman spy.
Right.
And so the theme of the first, there's two of the two films.
And the theme of the first film, though, you have – is it Samuel L. Jackson?
Yeah.
Is playing this megalomaniac cell phone company.
Big tech mogul.
Big tech mogul.
Vincent Valentine or something.
Something Valentine.
I forgot his first name.
And he basically has decided that we are the virus
and the planet is going to die from global global warming and so he devises this technology that he
will that can make people go insane and kill each other uh if they hear a noise yeah and so what he
offers is everybody in the world gets free cell phones free sim cards free internet forever or
whatever so everybody goes to get their free sim cards and then he plays the sound when everybody has them and everybody starts killing each other
everywhere they are and uh to kill to bring down the global population so that and it's like but
the tramp in this movie stops him and saves all the people well that's right that's exactly right
so is that kind of like defying Shaw's story?
I mean, I watch this and I'm just, I mean, with the point, of course, I just brought up Shaw because they reference the movie.
Right.
And so they reference the play, I should say, My Fair Lady.
What I mean is in the movie, the bad guy is the guy who wants to kill all the people to stop global warming.
Correct.
Using a high tech media device that makes people crazy which is right super on the nose exactly and the
the good guy is the regular person who didn't want to be involved and got dragged in and found
an opportunity and then says i'm going to stop these people and save the ones that i love oh
right a regular guy who along the way learns man ifeth man. Yeah. Right. So that's like their like little line of the gentleman warrior or spy or whatever.
But yeah.
So the question I watch this and I'm like, did the people who wrote this film know?
Like they made the My Fair Lady reference.
Did they know about the Fabian Socialist, the plan of the Fabian Socialist?
They know where this is like what could be going on here.
Are they tapped into the idea that we're using media devices like in our pocket?
It's not noises.
This is social media to drive ourselves nuts and hate each other.
Have you seen what's that?
What's that TV show?
The the the virus one.
Oh, Utopia.
Utopia.
Yeah.
You've seen Utopia.
I have not.
But they can't.
What do you want to know why they canceled it?
Two on the nose.
Yep.
Yep.
Whoa.
The show is about a – there's these people, and spoiler alert, it's an old show, but they remade it on Amazon.
The Amazon remake apparently got canceled because it was Two on the Nose.
Let me explain that.
Let me explain it.
There's a comic book, and in the comic, there's clues to what's really going on to put it simply a piece
of visual entertainment gives a group of people for knowledge as to what's really going on and
what's really going to happen as it turns out this tech mogul guy who thinks that we're overpopulated
and the planet is destroying itself stages a, and then offers up everybody a vaccine,
which sterilizes them.
And they canceled it
because they were like,
yeah, no.
And so the point was
conspiracy theorists were saying
a piece of visual entertainment
that we can watch
is talking about a virus
that's being staged you know that's that
where a tech mogul is pushing a vaccine little on the nose with what's going on right now and so
you you have it you have a show they're reading a comic learning the future or what's the plan
what the plan is the code names tech mogul well we got a bill gates we got a covet 19 we got a
vaccine program and we got it free for
everybody and so they were like you know stop the show yeah and the original version of it actually
was back in like i think 2011 or something in the uk yeah i mean so i mean life imitates art i guess
do you ever see that video game plague inc plague incorporated it was like the object it's still
super popular yeah well it got banned in china right after covid they banned it but the point of the game is you're playing as a virus
or a pathogen of some sort and you want to infect all of humanity and destroy them and so after
china banned the game some time went by they were like we feel really bad about this they just
released their expansion the cure so now you play as a doctor trying to vaccinate and stop the the
plague uh it's free for everyone until covid's
done by the way they said yeah so good bad i don't know but super keyed into the manipulation
of media that's for sure you know there's a gender studies paper that's titled women's studies as a
virus right is that yours i know no no this one's real it's by michael carger and baran faz
and they actually argue that the virus makes the ideal metaphor for feminist and women's studies and gender studies pedagogy.
And they say that what it should be is that people are being infected in their disciplines by maybe minoring in the subject or whatever,
and then going off into graduate school to infect other disciplines.
And then they compare themselves.
I kid you not.
They compare themselves favorably to all of HIV, Ebola, and cancer.
Wow.
They compare their own discipline favorably.
They say HIV is immune suppressing.
And so you have to take up steps that make you immune suppressing because it's a very effective virus.
Ebola is extraordinarily powerful and dangerous and contagious.
And cancer represents, I'm not joking, they talk about viruses entering cells, maybe like
the HPV or whatever, and changing the DNA in the cell.
And then that leads to cancer.
And they said that represents permanent transformational change of disciplines and other departments
and other walks of life and affinities.
Cancer?
That's how they want a permanent change?
You know, I wish.
They literally call themselves cancer, HIV, ebola i wish the grand conspiracies were real sometimes because like i know boring
i mean it's like and it's probably just you look for patterns i think they are sometimes that's
the crazy part yeah like gulf of tonka and we know that yeah we do know that for a fact i mean
for admission anyway mostly for i don't i think there is still some you know but sometimes these
crazy conspiracies are real which makes life worth living i mean it's just so interesting Anyway, mostly for I think there is still some, you know, but sometimes these crazy
conspiracies are real, which makes life worth living.
I mean, it's just so interesting.
It also makes life very dangerous.
If you look into certain things like State Street, Black Rock and what's that other big
investment firm?
There's like three investment firms that run the earth, basically.
Right.
Black.
Is it Black Rock?
It's the real government.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At some point.
And this is true.
A lot of people realize because I've actually talked to actually talked to uh politicians who've said this that's
called vanguard vanguard black rock and states vanguard vanguard biggest investment firm in the
world i've actually met politicians who say it's sometimes better to have the power in the shadows
than it is to be the public face and so a lot of politicians are straight up performative
they're there to entertain and keep stability in the sense that like, it's, it's almost like, you know, with the Colosseum of Rome, people were suffering,
they were hungry, there was chaos, there was corruption. So give them fights and throw bread
at bread and circuses, right? Well, now they're effectively doing that in Congress, you'd see
for the longest time, these politicians yelling, like, you know, my colleague over there across
the aisle just hates everybody, and I'm sick of it. And then once it's over, like, you know, my colleague over there across the aisle just hates everybody and I am sick of it.
And then once it's over, like you see the cameras like, you know, the actual news network would pull away.
But actually in the Senate, they'd like walk over.
They walk over, shake hands, punch each other in the back.
C-SPAN never turns off, but like nobody's watching it.
You'd watch them shake hands and grab a drink together and be hanging out and laughing.
And it was like all a performance because there are people they keep the the people in this country divided to a certain degree and i
you know maybe it's on purpose maybe it's not but it's actually what this what the machine does
whether whether these politicians intentionally do it i'm sure a lot of people would say they
would the machine does it regardless right the the city people and the rural people are divided
even in red states blue like small
towns are blue it's the weirdest thing i was in rural west virginia and i drove through a tiny
town and it was all critical race theory and i was like i just drove like a mile away and it was
all trump signs but in a small town where you had proximity more density it was like black lives
matter flags and stuff so you think they're playing performance these politicians because
it's too dangerous to go deep on the real issues?
No.
The real companies like Vanguard and stuff?
No, I think the problem is they don't care and they don't pay attention.
That might be true.
So it's an easy opportunity for those with massive power to just keep gaining power and no one will stop them.
I mean, Kennedy got killed.
I don't know if it was a political coup or not, but the dude was speaking out against the military industrial complex and got killed that sucked so and not since have any president ever come out against
the military yeah he did a little actually not really no he didn't really yeah i mean a little
bit weapons deals he acknowledged it but he didn't like do anything he wasn't saying i'm gonna break
it up he was all in favor of the weapons deals because of the money but he's not in favor of
the war because he promised to end it and so so it wasn't – perhaps the – if you believe in the conspiracies, it wasn't a kill-worthy thing.
It was like, he's still selling our weapons.
We're getting money.
He's still using drone bombers.
How do we sell more if he's not using them?
You know what I mean?
So they didn't like that.
They wanted more war.
But he wasn't like overtly like, I'm going to break up the military-industrial complex like Kennedy said.
He was very overt about it.
Wow.
Fearless.
So back to the China question.
Uh-oh.
Well, so we had China Uncensored on the show.
I asked him about this, and I'm wondering, are you familiar with Thucydides' trap?
Yeah, vaguely.
Basically, like, we're facing a potential war with China based on historical precedent.
I'm wondering if we're already—well, actually, we're already in it.
You know, a lot of people
might not want to acknowledge this,
but cyber war between the US and China
has been pretty intense for a long time.
Let me just draw back to that word,
political war.
Right.
Political warfare has been happening.
The biggest sign that I ever saw
with that was the Chinese
have a term to make fun of the woke,
which is bai sua.
Yes.
Bai sua, yeah.
It means white left.
Yeah, white left.
It does, yeah. And then all of a sudden like
the the wumao accounts on twitter or yeah twitter stopped making fun of them it's like all of a
sudden it was like it stopped making fun of them then the accounts were like america has a big
systemic racism problem yeah yep and it's like all of a sudden they realize that this is a weapon
um because they used to make fun of the white left yeah well now it's now they can see that
it's destroying the country and they should embolden
it.
Was Mao's revolution a form of political war in the beginning?
Uh, I mean, yeah, they, they were engaging in political warfare for sure.
The, the goal with the cultural revolution was kind of to cover up for the failure of
the great, great leap forward so that Mao could reclaim power.
So the great leap forward was when he took all the farmers out of the farm.
And he took all the farmers and said, you guys are going to all make steel because steel is the one big measurement.
Yeah, and they all ended up making crappy pig iron and nobody was growing food.
Command economy, baby.
It was the Great Leap into the dumpster is what it worked out to be.
The Great Leap into 50 million dead people, pretty much.
Okay, now that's not funny.
Not so funny.
But yeah, so that was a huge failure and they actually kind of chased mal out of power
uh and i'm not real sharp on the the chinese history with remembering who all the names are
in the gang of four and all of this stuff but then mal came back with uh basically with his
little red book indoctrinating students and young people in universities and in schools
and uh unleashed what he called the red guard in the cultural revolution to destroy the four
olds of society.
And, you know, old habits, old ideas, old customs, old ways of thinking.
What do you think is happening right now?
It's like, you know, Dr. Seuss was a man of his time.
We have to destroy that.
His time was terrible.
Thomas Jefferson was a man of his time.
Throw a statue in the lake.
Abraham Lincoln.
Man of his time.
Take the name off the school in San Francisco. Throw his statue in the lake abraham lincoln man of his time take the name off the
school and in san francisco throw his statue in the lake too you know right right like the antifa
a or whatever it is on on his face with spray paint uh yeah anarchy a that's what apparently
they don't understand what that means no i love this yeah people claiming to be yeah right yeah
exactly that's a better one yeah authoritarianism by, in that essay, just to not to dive into this, but in that essay on liberation I was reading, you repeatedly have Marcuse refer to the need to raise the flag, the red and the black flag.
That's what he's always referring to throughout that, in case you wonder, like, who he's connected to.
Yeah.
What's that, the fascist and the communist flag together?
No, no.
Red and black is left anarchy.
It's a symbol of what
is it black is labor yeah and red is red yeah it's socialism and anarchy is what it is yeah
and then there's black and yellow that's why luke luke really likes black and yellow
but that's capitalism that's that fan yeah right that's the fancy symbol of of antifa has a black
and a red flag that's that's what it is. And so he's referring to that in 1969.
It's like empowering the black and the red.
And he even says the black and the red flag must be empowered behind this.
And it's like,
huh?
Now,
anti-fascist is asked Acton or Harvard said in German.
My German pronunciation is not very good.
Do you know what the Berlin wall's real name was?
No.
The anti-fascist protection rampart.
Huh?
That was the actual name of the Berlin wall.
We just call it the Berlin wall because that's the colloquial name that's the common name but i think it's important we
remember what the true name was yeah exactly i mean this is the thing so i was reading bella
dodd's testimony again i read it in december or november last year and i read it was reading it
again uh a little bit today and a little bit last week. And Bella Dodd was a member of the Communist Party USA who confessed,
or she actually left the party defected.
And in 1953, she confessed everything, basically,
about the Communist Party's ideas to the House Committee on Un-American Activities,
now known as the House Judiciary Committee.
And, well, not quite.
It assumed all of that former committee's roles and duties,
which are technically not dissolved.
But she's confessing and she says you will always find – I put this on Twitter just yesterday or the day before.
You will always find that the communist plan is to dress up its activities in high-minded terms.
So you'll find the communists saying that we are the anti-fascists.
And so if you oppose communism, you must be pro-fascist.
And that was a – she was saying this in the 1950s about how I'm an anti-Republican.
I mean, good.
I mean, I have those memes about becoming an anti-Republican.
Yeah.
Yeah.
See, I'm an anti-Republican.
And that means I believe in free speech.
It means I believe in, you know, the right of the individual to assemble the Constitution.
And if you oppose me, you're pro-Republican.
Yeah, that's the problem.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm glad you understand the logic.
The communists would say rightists.
They hunted down the rightists.
They did.
Rightist intent, rightist beliefs.
This was big with Mao.
Also, of course, bourgeois.
But they did go right after rightist.
It's too naked.
But, I mean, Marcuse put that.
His essay, Repressive Tolerance from 1965, the thesis statement is literally almost word for word.
Movements from the left must be tolerated under all circumstances.
Movements from the right must not be tolerated.
What terrifies me is when I find myself saying people on the left, I feel like I've been indoctrinated and am subconsciously being used as a pawn to segregate this culture war.
No, that's true.
What needs to be done is that the willful actors who are participating in this
need their own identifiable name that actually sticks.
Woke is a thing, but it's slangy.
Critical social justice is a term that shows up in their literature,
but it's scholarly.
We could get really technical.
It's a critical constructivist.
That's what they do.
The Fighting Mongooses. That's a good team name. Yeah, team yeah i know right that's not too bad flying eagles um
but i i don't know you know what exactly to call them the repressive left would work but people
have tried variations it was regressive left for a long time repressive is actually more
let's call them identitarians identitariansians is good, yeah. Identity Marxists fits.
I think identitarian works because it's the core ideology for a lot of what they push.
And Google search what identitarian means and then, you know.
Authoritarian I like a lot, too, if you think of it.
But it's identitarian.
These are people who want law based on race.
They want law and policy based on identity.
That's better because if we think of it as left, then they'll use that to hunt people down. Right.
And it's easy to be opposed to racism in all its forms, right?
Yeah.
Racism is wrong in all its forms.
It's a very powerful, simple statement that also has the concept of Robert Lifton would have called thought-stopping technique, which is what they use on you all the time.
When they call you a racist, they're using thought-stopping techniques.
Lifton was, by the way, describing how Mao was able to use the Red Guard to take over
when he talked about cults being built, and he was specifically analyzing the Maoist one.
They're going to put half a million dollars into this autonomous zone, apparently.
I don't know what that means.
Did they say what it was for?
No.
It's GFAS.
Yeah, that's cool. I'm not going to lie. Stepping out of it was for? No. It's GFAS. Yeah, that's cool.
I'm not going to lie.
Stepping out of the system for a minute, GFAS sounds cool.
Don't you want to go down and hang out at the GFAS?
I don't know.
Yes, but they'll shoot me, so I'm not going to.
Oh, never mind.
Yeah.
Yeah, journalists showed up, and they were like, something bad's about to happen right now.
He's like, okay, we're leaving.
Yeah, that's true.
What a loser.
Yeah.
If a journalist shows up, he's like, what do you mean?
I'm outside.
And they're like, you better leave.
I'd be like, shut your mouth, kid.
Go home.
Again, I'm telling you.
Make it happen.
That's a decision dilemma, too.
They're going to put in a decision dilemma.
Yep.
And people are cowards.
Wait, what do you mean?
What's the decision dilemma?
You have to either show weakness or you have to overreact.
When they get up in your face and they're like, you better get out of here.
Well, I was actually talking about just the establishment of an autonomous zone at all they're right they're
they're basically playing chicken with the city if the city overreacts they're gonna be like help
fascists this is why we need clown block clown block yeah is that like bat anti-shark spray a
hundred people dressing clowns just dancing and playing music and like banging drums and like you
know just because there's, there's no aggression.
There's no attack.
There's no affiliation.
It's bizarre.
It's bizarre.
And it occupies space and sullies their ideology.
That's very Butlerian.
Listen,
if you send in a group of proud boys,
it's horrifying white supremacists attacking poor black lives matter
protesters.
So my friend told me that the proud boys should all put on like,
they should march socially distanced on purpose.
They should all wear rainbow masks.
They should have like, you know, like the the the feminist power fist, like in the circle with the plus on their like emblazoned on their chest or whatever.
And they should go in singing like John Lennon's Imagine and then just see what happens because that puts them in a decision dilemma.
But sure. But the story would then be far-right white supremacists troll Black Lives Matter protesters.
Maybe.
What happens if a bunch of unnamed, unidentifiable clowns show up playing music and banging drums and giving out funnel cake and cotton candy?
400 articles about the Joker.
They'll just say a bunch of clowns showed up and are occupying the space and playing music.
And when they're asked about what they're doing, they just go,
And then who are the clowns? the people that occupy the autonomous zone of course
exactly yeah they're all clowns the autonomous zone is just occupied by a large group of clowns
that's it each and every clown is unidentifiable they're not a political faction they have no
political ideology their their faces are painted and they're wearing wigs they're not identifiable
they don't bring weapons they They don't fight anybody.
Literally just clowns having fun riding little tricycles and laughing and hugging and dancing.
And what would happen if a parade of clowns with balloons got brutally beaten by Antifa?
It would be art that was watched for millennia.
People would reference those videos of the clowns being taken away in handcuffs.
By who?
Cops can't go in.
It would be terrifying.
It would be hilariously horrifying. What can these groups do if clowns being taken away in handcuffs. By who? In movies, it would be terrifying. It's a decision dilemma.
What can these groups do if clowns occupy their space?
Peaceful, happy, go lucky, friendly, family-friendly people
there just to bring a smile to people's faces who may be sad.
You are creating the decision dilemma back for them.
Right.
Which is actually what you have to do.
No public announcements, no organization,
just 100 clowns showing up on a certain date just to bring joy to people joy and peace and love and
funnel cake of course anti-violence yep and if you if you oppose the anti-violence then you're
pro-violence that's right you'd have to sustain it to really have an impact like seven seven weeks
of clowns and they could always be the same clowns, but different people could come in. But you could do this everywhere.
You could do it everywhere.
Because when you look at the black block, what the activists do when they all wear black, you can't figure out who these people are.
You don't necessarily know what their ideology is or what they want.
And they do this on purpose so they can't get caught when they commit crimes.
Yeah, exactly.
How are you going to smear a bunch of clowns?
Just a bunch of clowns.
Touche, dude.
I'm in it.
No, this is good.
It creates the necessary dynamic that you have to do.
People ask me all the time, like, what's basically the strategy?
What kind of thing do you have to do?
You have to put that.
They're trying to put you in a decision dilemma.
You have to put them back in a decision dilemma.
Mid-level violence.
You know what happened?
How you do it.
One of these leftists are dressed like a clown and throw a Molotov.
Oh.
Yeah, that's true.
That's the other thing. Because, like, I was talking to a guy who wants a like i can't build
technologies and maybe you guys can he was saying that would be really helpful is if you had like
this app where even if it's just anonymous that you know you know you could type in your school
board or whatever like brown school board or whatever and you could find it or school district
and you could find out like parents can go in and opt in anonymously or whatever maybe there's a
community function maybe there's not but you could actually just know there's like 90 other parents
in the schools at school district who oppose critical race theory yeah so you feel more
emboldened to be able to speak up and if you could connect with one another even if it's anonymous at
first or whatever but i was like that's just going to get like activists are just going to
make fake accounts and descend on that like crazy right um maybe if it's like you
know just the yes there are people here you can make it anonymous like you know yeah no one can
see your name so you can say whatever you want right i mean that that would have to be the case
because the second they find out who you are you know there's trouble i don't think so i think the
only reason there's trouble is because there's a hundred people ten of them are pointing you know
the baseball bat and the other 90 are like but no
one will have my back yeah well this is the the odds aren't that good for them actually the i've
heard so many stories now because i get like preferential stories of this sort sent to me
i've heard so many stories where you have a school district for example that serves maybe
five ten thousand families total in a community and the people do some digging and
find out that it's a dozen activists 12 against thousands right and i've had cases in where
there's been small cities in the u.s where people on either like the city council or whatever have
contacted me and said you know we did some digging you know we're getting constant relentless
harassment and tons of comments on all the message boards, blah, blah, blah, from different accounts. Well, they're all fake.
Turns out there's like 20 people.
Only one of them is a constituent because you have to have one to be able to file stuff.
And what tipped him off was like, why does the same person file everything, right, you know, that requires a constituent to file?
But it's like it's the only one.
It looks like there's 400 people.
This happens to me on Twitter all the time.
So I tweet something about hegel's
philosophy like anybody cares right and uh all of a sudden you know i get start getting dunked on
which is strange enough it must be touching some wire and then i'm having like cartoon characters
with like 60 followers reply tweet to my tweet getting 300 400 likes within an hour or two like you can't tell me that's organic
like that's not normal i that's that's not normal twitter behavior in any universe so i just don't
check notifications but no the point is that what you actually have with a lot of these activists
is you have a perception that there are lots of them. But what there actually are are very small numbers of them, usually, with lots of accounts that are swarming in artificial fake ways to make it look like there's lots and lots and lots of people.
That's a military tactic where you'll make it seem like there's more of you surrounding the enemy to confuse them, set off explosives over there and noise over there.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I think these people feel like they're insurgents.
They are insurgents.
They know they're insurgents. They are insurgents. They know they're insurgents.
The ones who are not just like your average dopey foot soldier, Wokey, they know what they're doing.
They're very informed.
They know that they're just trying to claim power.
They know what the tactics are.
They have books like Beautiful Trouble that are activist handbooks that tell them how to do this.
I'm at a bit of a loss.
Maybe you could help.
Now, I'm a big advocate of turn the other cheek.
I believe if someone wrongs you, the best thing you can do is just allow it, understand,
see their humanity. But I also see they crucified Jesus after he told people to do that. So like
one time a friend of mine would smack my leg a lot and I was like, ah, it really hurt. And I was
like, stop, please stop hitting me. But she just was doing it. It was just programmed to do it.
One day I said, if you do it again, I'm going to hit you as hard as you're hitting me.
So she did it again and I hit her smacked her super hard and she was
screamed out and never hit me again no the situation was solved yeah you hear this with
parents and children who bite a lot is that they finally just you know bite the kid the kid back
and it's like that's what it feels like the kid never bites the kid never bites again and it's
like um there is a point there uh and this is where i was saying
earlier you know cancel that if someone comes to cancel you cancel them first is kind of like a
it's semi-humorous you know thing but um i don't think until the i keep saying the symmetry the
asymmetry is the story the asymmetry is the goal the goal of repressive tolerance from 1965
was to create this asymmetry, left good, right bad.
Marcuse, in that essay, by the way, if you want to see how close to what is happening
now it is, he says that the problem isn't even that right-wing movements exist and do
things and whether they would be violent.
They have to be stopped at the point where the thought enters their head.
Therefore, it requires not even just censorship, but pre-censorship of movements from the right. And that asymmetry is what's being attempted. That's what cancel culture
is meant to do. Cancel culture is meant to create pre-censorship. In other words, the idea is not
even out there anymore. People are afraid even if they hold the idea to say it, because if they say
it, they're going to get canceled. They're going to get shot down off of their platform. They're
going to lose whatever it is that's their living or whatever happens to be. The kids are going to
get harassed at school.
So pre-censorship, to prevent people from even feeling like they can say the thing,
is really their objective. Until the symmetry is restored, it's just going to be L after L
after L stacking up. Until people grow spines and just say, shut up, I don't care.
Well, I mean, historically speaking, from what I've been told, but I'm not a scholar of this, I can't talk about it deeply, is until the children of the actual elites start having an impact.
The parents, I should say, of the children see an impact in their children's lives.
But it's already happening.
Sort of.
And they're playing into it.
Sort of.
I mean, that's the problem, is a lot of people at that level have bought into the
ideology yeah i hear from parents all the time that say like the one thing i wish more desperately
than any is that i could talk to other parents at my kid's school and say don't you just think
this is all bogus um don't you think it's a terrible idea that they're bringing in trans
strippers to dance those people need to have someone throw a large ice-cold water balloon in their face.
Well, they said what's happening is they know that if,
especially, and this is true in private schools, elite private schools,
that if they say that to the wrong parent, their kid's going to get pushed out of the school.
Good. Why is your kid in that school in the first place?
I mean, that's kind of the feeling that I have.
I've been kind of pissed off at people for a long time,
which it's like, you know, people are like, I'm scared I'm going to lose my job. It's like, everybody's going to
lose their job if this goes badly. Why do you want to work for a company that's funding this?
You know, look, I've stopped caring a lot about these autonomous zones to a certain degree
in that Portland voted for the rioters. They literally voted for the rioters. And a lot of
people are like, dude, I can't leave. I'm stuck. I sympathize. I empathize. If you're stuck and you can't afford to leave, I understand. But maybe at a certain
point to realize that we live in trying times and the world is not perfect. See, for me, maybe it's
easier. I don't have children. I've been homeless before. I'm not scared of it. If I had to just
walk into the woods, I'd be like, okay. But too many people are scared. They lived in comfort
for too long and they're scared of losing that luxury because they don't understand what it's like to actually have to survive on the streets.
And you know what?
Surviving on the streets, infinitely easier than surviving in the woods.
And you don't even have to do that.
No one's talking about, you know, making you a homeless person living under a bridge.
We're just saying they might take your kid out of the school and then you got to figure out something for your kid.
Homeschool them that this is this is the the truth is that the the thing that you said that we live in trying
times now and people have to start living as though i mean this is something i get mad about
the very smart people a lot is you know my opinion is i would agree with you if the world
was the same way it was five years ago i didn't even said that i got asked a question i gave a
talk recently at a major university a very famous major university, and I got asked a question that was very much to that.
They were like, well, don't you think you turn people off by some of the way that you behave on Twitter and the way that you behave?
And I was like, first of all, I don't care at all.
Good.
Bye. But second of all, most importantly, is like I can't first – why buy? Because I can't put a chain around my neck and constrain the way that I need to feel like I need to talk to say what I need to say because it might upset somebody who follows me on Twitter.
I don't care.
But secondly, and much more importantly, if the world was the way it was five years ago or the way we thought it was five years ago, I probably would believe you or agree with you.
But it's not,
we're in a bad situation right now.
And if you don't act like we're in a bad situation right now and start
living like what time it actually is,
then this just keeps getting worse.
And it gets harder.
I told people this at the beginning of the riots last summer,
this won't blow over.
The longer you wait to stand up,
the harder it gets.
I'll put it this way.
You're on it.
We're all in a boat and that boat is taking on water.
And you've got people like me
and James Lindsay and Ian
and other people we have on the show
who are looking you in the face right now
and say, start bailing.
And they're going,
but, you know,
I don't know if I should
because, I mean,
you know, then people are going to get,
they're going to find out
that I know the ship is sinking
and then I'd rather,
look, if I climb to the top of the Titanic
and go to the back, it's not sinking over there it's actually going up
i think that'll be fine it's like bro the whole thing's going to split in half it's going to go
under and i'll tell you this we're all making our ways toward the light toward the lifeboats
we tried bailing water maybe we're past that point now we're at the point where those of us who've
been paying attention and many of you who are watching have already started getting ready for
what those lifeboats figuratively are and a lot of people who think they can sit back and shut up and keep their head down are
going to be in for a very very rude awakening i will tell you once there's a meme where death
goes knocking on every door and every door has there's like a trail of blood coming out and the
meme will show like video game companies or movies or whatever and then he's knocking on the next
door people seem to think i will sit in my house and as these psychopaths go door to door
threatening people,
if I put up the flag,
they'll walk past me
and then, oh no, one day they don't.
They knock on your door and they say,
well, are you going to give us money now?
Like they did to the businesses in Louisville.
You know that story?
Yeah.
They went, Black Lives Matter
went around to all the local businesses downtown
and said, tithe or else.
And when one Cuban immigrant said no, they shattered a pot and said, tithe or else.
And then they set up barricades and called him racist and shut down his business.
That's what happens.
Tithe or else.
They demanded a percentage of the income from these businesses.
Sit back at your own peril.
Fine.
But don't come crawling to me when you
keep saying, but I'm scared to talk to the other parents. Okay, well, then you reap what you've
sown. You are the one watering the flowers of destruction. And then you're going to come and
complain about it later. Dude, the rest of us are getting into the weeds and pulling out the trash
and getting rid of the grubs while you're sitting back saying, I don't want to get my hands dirty.
Okay, I'll say yes. Bail. Pick up a pail and bail the water. Also get the lifeboats ready,
but I think we can salvage the hall. So if you're interested in the structure of the system and you
want to repair it, that is also possible, but we need to get the lifeboats ready and we need to
bail. That is by speaking your mind online. You make a video, you let people know.
It's by talking to other parents and saying that's
ridiculous no i'm sorry that makes no sense and then if they get mad and they huff and puff be
like you keep your cool and you be polite and you be nice and you let them freak out you want
them to show their true colors when they have the tribalist panic attack that's right and this is
why i always try to be very nice on Twitter,
because I want people to look at the interactions
between these lunatics and see someone saying,
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to upset you,
and them saying, F you, you slimeball, I hate your guts.
And then when a regular person who's uninitiated sees that,
they go, I don't want to hang out with the mean person.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
You can't let the lie come through you. I said earlier the Soviet Union lasted 70 years of pretty crap, to put it mildly. Do you know what led the Soviet Union when it started to actually collapse? I mean, there's lots of economic factors and some other stuff and whatever. But it's when the people, the citizens, actually started to laugh at it.
It's like everybody knew for a long time it was a lie, and they just kind of did it.
At some point, they started to laugh at it.
And so when Tim said, you know, it's one parent talking to another and saying, that's ridiculous.
Like, I mean, it's stupid, I guess, but think about Harry Potter, right?
So you had your literature reference.
I can have my dorky literature reference. Harry Potter, come on.
Harry Potter 3 with the
werewolf. Come on.
Good one. And which one does he teach, right?
You have this... The Boggarts? Yeah, the
shape-changing Boggarts. The thing that you're
afraid of, it turns into
the thing you are the most afraid of. It's going to take away
the thing you're most worried about.
It's a shape-shifting thing. You don't know
what it is. And what is the magic spell that breaks it, that destroys it? Ridiculous. You call the thing you're most worried about. It's a shape-shifting thing. You don't know what it is. And what is the magic spell that breaks it, that destroys it?
Ridiculous.
You call the thing ridiculous.
You just laugh at it.
And this is actually a very useful parable because the truth is this ideology, as horrible
and dangerous as it is, is also ridiculous.
It is patently ridiculous.
The things that it says, the things that it claims are laughably dumb like
you know what you do it's really really simple get your friends if you're a parent and you're
anti-woke and then invite an unsuspecting woke person to your to a barbecue and then when they're
sitting there start chanting gobble gobble one of us gobble gobble one of us and that will
absolutely convince them to change their minds or run away screaming
you know like in the movie
you do a drum circle too
yeah it's more subliminal
well you gotta be careful not to
appropriate anything there
snare drums
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Tim deserves it, by the way.
We deserve all of the five stars.
Yeah.
Five stars and thumbs up.
Why aren't you all liking the like button?
Smashing, tapping, like.
All of the above.
Liking all of the like buttons.
I won't say banging.
Banging.
Yeah.
Bang that like button. I didn't say it. People are saying. Bang the like buttons. I won't say banging. Bang that like button.
People are saying
people are saying
like the like button or bang the like button.
Acme says,
it's been incredible reading your new Discourses
essays and then seeing the same ideas
months later in articles written by serious
journalists. Dare to name any names?
You're always on the cutting edge of this
ideology. Aren't I?
Humble.
What are some of the essays that have sparked genius?
Well, I mean, you know, I might
have did a four-part podcast series
explaining Herbert Marcuse's
repressive tolerance, and Matt Taibbi might have
written an article right after that.
That's cool, though. Right on.
That's great. I'm not actually jelly
because I want the ideas to get out there. That's cool, though. Right on. That's great. No, see, I'm not actually jelly because I want the ideas to get out there.
That's the goal, right?
And I understand the country club mentality, and that's fine.
The goal is to get the ideas out there.
I see that Claire Lemon of Quillette fame is now talking about critical theory, where
for like a year she told me it was too obscure.
It's normal, man.
It's good.
It was a really weird moment for me when I started seeing some of my ideas be repeated by other people.
I mean, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, right?
There was just a great article.
I mean, it's truly great.
But I'll say this.
I don't think it's imitation.
I think it's a good idea.
And then people who hear that and say it's a good idea
come to believe that idea and come to share it in the same way you did
when you came up with it.
Yeah, there's another great article,
and I don't even remember for sure who it's by,
Batia Unger Sargon or something, Sargon Unger.
I don't remember exactly what her name is.
I'm not familiar with her.
She's new to me.
Hyphenated last name, which makes things complicated for me.
If one of you find it, that's cool.
But she wrote a beautiful article.
I even, it's really funny because I predicted on Twitter
the day before it came out that somebody would probably be writing an article about hegel which i kept
getting made fun of on twitter about that the hegelian philosophy has relevance so what's
going on and she writes this beautiful article about the hegelian relevance of the woke movement
and i was like oh damn i was like literally tweeted about that yesterday um there you go
it's like you're developing the um theory or the scholarly presentation and then other people are making it more like mainstream palatable.
I mean, that's part of it.
I do understand that I write dork stuff that's hard to read.
Well, I need to figure out if more people are talking about the psychopathy aspect.
I actually think the most important article I've written in a long time, I published it on Christmas in case because COVID because like we didn't have a Christmas this year because my mom had a COVID scare at work.
My brother is absolutely not hanging out like he's totally COVID it out.
And then my my kids are like scattered to the winds for the moment.
And COVID makes everything weird.
And so then we have I had just gone on a trip.
And so it was like, let's just all do Christmas at home this year.
So I was like, well, there are a lot of people who are doing Christmas at home alone,
so I'll put an article out that I was going to save until a little bit after.
And it's called something like Psychopathy and the Origins of Totalitarianism.
And it's super important to understand that a lot of the origins of what's going on here
are people who are failing to cope with the world as it is and create what I called in there,
borrowing from, what's his name?
It's terrible to forget a guy's name right in the middle of something important.
But Joseph Piper, pseudo realities.
They create false realities and then they push those through with a false morality and
a false logical form called a parology and a paramorality.
And I lay out this whole article that basically they're coping with the inability to cope
with the world by trying to force everybody else to live in their delusions.
There you go.
And I haven't seen the psychopathy article or argument making it out far yet.
I really want to, though.
We'll read some more of these.
The crazy one says, hey, Tim, look up the dates the U.S. declared war on the Confederate States.
Someone want to pop that up real quick?
All right.
Let's see.
Ian Hall says, isn't all rap pretty much anti
woke like even nikki minaj is alphabet i don't know what that means what does that mean don't
know is there any woke rap is it any good i mean like probably not i mean there's no such thing
really as woke art there's it's it's like it's it's technically kind of anti-art uh because it's
propaganda all right here we go dr roller g, Hi, James. Hope you made friends today
and that everyone on the internet was nice.
Is he in all caps? No.
What? What the heck?
Caps.
I love him.
Deplorable Pirate Captain Gunbeard
says, My advice to everyone left of Marx,
quit being a consumer, embrace self-reliance,
making, and right to repair.
Corporate cop sellouts will
hate and fear a culture built around that.
Yeah, I think so.
Paul
Jimikowski says, thank you for being a light in the
dark, James. Keep up the fight. The only
thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good
men to do nothing. Yes, indeed.
Do not let the lie come through you.
Solzhenitsyn.
Softshell Crab says says so i have two questions
what can a person from a small town do to influence politic policies that help small
towns and not big cities do any of y'all play warhammer 40k or know the lore i do not i used
to i played space wolves for a while space marines i love tyranids and i don't really love them but
i appreciate their psychic ways
they're giant ant creatures that have enslaved other races but what was the other question
exactly how do you uh how do you influence policies that will help small towns and the
first thing i thought is make internet videos because that affects everyone and give your
personal experience culture that's true that's right um don't be afraid to actually write to
your representatives uh especially if you have like some video stuff that you put out.
Send it to them. Share them.
Yeah.
I also have not played this game.
The last game I ever played, I actually lost.
It's not quite true it's the last game I ever played,
but I was playing World of Warcraft in 2005 or something.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm launching fireballs at something or another, pirates or something.
And I just realized, I was like,
I'm putting a lot of effort into making this avatar of myself awesome
when I could be putting effort into making myself
awesome sounds like you were barely in the game
sounds like Deadmines I mean like level
15 or something come on bro
I was like 57 or something
in fighting pirates big pirates
they were like yeah I guess
yeah maybe it's been a while
I forget where it was like Tanneris or something
yeah I don't remember it was 2005
me too and so it might not even been pirates i might be making that part up it
might have been like you know raptors and dinosaurs and i'm just making a strangle thorn
yeah it could have been strangle thorn booty bay level 47 yeah yeah 40 something yeah and so
anyways i i realized i could be making myself awesome with that time and like 30 minutes later
i just kept playing it just the thought crossed time. And like 30 minutes later, I just kept playing. It just,
the thought crossed my mind.
And like 30 minutes later,
I was like,
I'm done.
And I've never been able to get into a video game again.
I've tried a few times.
It just literally can't.
Well,
I had like a three year period.
I feel similar.
That happened to me.
I kind of seeded back into Warcraft three in that 2009,
but between 2006 and nine,
I just had,
I took my Warcraft disc,
smashed it,
threw it into the sewer.
I was like,
I'm done. I have YouTube. And I just went deep on YouTube videos. I've got, I took my Warcraft disc, smashed it, threw it into the sewer. I was like, I'm done.
I have YouTube.
And I just went deep on YouTube videos.
I just bought Genshin Impact.
It's actually a really good game.
But I just can't get into it because I'm like, I'm just not inspired to level up these abilities.
It's an open world RPG.
And I'm like, I'd rather just build Chicken City.
You know what I mean?
Heck yeah.
A real life SimCity.
Yeah.
Chickens are hilarious i started turning the circle and training my martial art and
meditating in place of video games and it was like wow i turned off world warcraft and i have like
so many extra hours a day that i don't even know how to fill them all all right we got um mcchewy
says diamond hands my fellow apes amc and gme to the moon what's up tim and friends keep up the
good work y'all. What is that?
My friends, you may notice that we have some merchandise pinned to the chat.
Oh.
If you go to TimCast.com and click shop or click the pinned merchandise above the chat,
you can get your very own Diamond Hands gorilla t-shirt.
It is the traditional I am a gorilla shirt, except now he's wearing a suit, holding wads
of cash, smoking, he's got sunglasses on, and he's particularly happy because, you see, he had diamond hands.
He held his stonks until he maxed out his tendies, and now he is reaping the rewards, so he's having a good day.
There were a lot of people that were, I can't believe it.
You know the GameStop thing?
Yeah.
People sold at like 50 bucks.
Oh.
I'm not giving anyone advice.
I'm just giving you my opinion on what happened.
And then it hit like 350. Yep. I don't't know what happened today but it's just been insane and i know some people who bought them and they're laughing like it's doubled their money like
this this it's it's a crazy scenario it's crazy i literally i was on a flight
the few weeks ago and i sat next to a literal hedge fund manager and it got upgraded i was
in first class and i sat next to a literal like hedge fund manager and I got upgraded. I was in first class and I signed up to a literal hedge fund manager
and I was like,
what did you think
of that GameStop?
And he's like,
I didn't even know about that.
I was like,
what in the world?
Memes, man.
Meme is mightier than the sword.
All right,
the Civic Nationalist says,
James,
I use the work you've done
to make my arguments
against the racist and sexist.
You have done amazing work,
but they don't care.
So good idea
is greater than bad ideas.
God save the queen.
Long live Britain. The sun has not yet set.
Now we're impeaching the queen now.
Impeach the queen! That's right.
People are posting hashtag impeach the queen, I guess.
It's like a reference to like...
The more absurd stories
come out, I can just like...
I wonder at what point there will be
a crisis of historical record on me when
they don't know which stories are real real stories so like there's a bunch of stories about
me which ones are the real ones i tried to do that with academic papers right exactly oh yeah
well you you talked about that on rogan you said you you published like 10 how many papers seven
of them got in there are 20 that we wrote um turning mind conf into feminist
literature and getting it accepted i almost you know so tim's like a journalist or whatever and
he was actually at peter bergoshan's house while we were writing them and we had we we had an event
a couple of events in portland and so we got together in portland and we were working together
and at one point i mean the famous video when we put out we're all celebrating and laughing and
and what appears to be a nice house and pete's wearing like a suit jacket or whatever like tim's downstairs and we're like completely forgot he was there and
we're celebrating uh but at one point and i bet you don't remember this but you might remember
this we were in pete's kitchen and i had an idea for a paper hit me and that's like i completely
forgot that you weren't in on it and i just turned to everybody and like, it's like the whole room went weird. And I was like, oh, my God, guys, gentrified cornbread.
And you were like, what?
And everybody was like, you know, stop, stop, stop.
Well, you know, I take sources seriously, though.
So I wouldn't just like publish private details of somebody unless it was.
No, of course.
Of course.
You infiltrated.
You were.
We were.
We were doing what we were doing uh what we're doing we're doing an interview on critical race theory stuff yeah i know i couldn't remember if you were there this one when james demore was
there so i couldn't remember if you were connected to that event or yeah i don't think at the exact
same time but we we stuck around we drove back and forth i guess that's right that's right yeah
we went to the james demore thing in portland yeah it was portland yeah we hung out a little
bit at p Pete's house.
And then we all argued about universities versus media and stuff.
And it turns out we were both right.
And of course we were.
All right, let's see.
Brandon Beck says, have you seen George Alexopoulos' comic of you, Tim?
It's you feeding your chickens and you get abducted by aliens.
It's really funny.
I love the show.
I do.
It's amazing.
And we've completed Chicken City today.
We have two little chicken houses, then two little chicken, like...
Bungalows?
Yeah.
And then one chicken town hall.
And we're going to put addresses on them.
Yes.
So then, you know, it's like an actual city.
We gave Bucko a little tour.
Let him sniff it out.
He was stoked.
He was running around.
Is there going to be, like, a squirrel autonomous zone in the middle?
Okay.
Oh, we'll find out.
That sounds great.
Maybe. They can get through the wiring, I think. No, I don't think so. Oh, we'll find out. That sounds great. Maybe.
They can get through the wiring, I think.
No, I don't think so.
I hope not.
A squirrel might be able to slip through.
We have to take it seriously, though, because we're in the middle of those predators and stuff.
No, that's true.
I mean, you'll see an uptick in your foxes and hawks.
I think it's fine.
I think it's fine.
They have little houses, and we surrounded the whole thing.
It's caged in.
But I don't think the squirrels would attack chickens if they did get in there. No, chickens might attack squirrels. Yeah, the chickens would eat the whole thing. It's caged in. I don't think the squirrels would attack chickens if they did.
No, chickens might attack squirrels.
Yeah, the chickens would eat the squirrels.
No, my neighbor has chickens.
They're cool.
Unsettling.
They're cool.
So another question.
Jordan Nick says,
Great guys, great work.
Love the show.
Quick question for Ian.
Who's your go-to army for 40K?
You seem like a Tau or Eldar player.
Oh, I love the Eldar, man.
But Josh picked him first.
I mean, the Harlequin kiss
was so deadly in the early days.
If you, the distortion cannon,
if it hit any tank,
it would just completely,
the tank would disappear.
It was so overpowered.
So I always wanted to play Eldar,
but since Joshua had my space wolves,
I think I like Tyranids.
I like the psychic worm creature
that can control armies of gene stealers.
Now I know what it's like for everybody
when we mention Magic the Gatherer.
Yeah, you're going to love 40K.
Tap your swamp.
All right, this one's important for you.
Brian Kluver.
Do you know who that is?
I do.
Hey, look, it's Jimmy Lindsay.
He and his sibling were raised in the old neighborhood where they were my younger sibling's
friends.
He was just a kid down the road.
Hopefully will be known as a modern day hero.
Keep going, James.
Right on.
Three exclamation points. Thanks, Brian. Good to hear from you, man. That known as a modern day hero. Keep going, James. Right on. Thanks, Brian.
Thanks, Brian. Good to hear from you, man.
That's cool, huh? Yeah.
All right, let's see.
Amalashak says,
Tim, you hung the picture. Now I
have to fix the leaky toilet. Told my wife I'd do
it when you did. Thanks.
A Pisces and nine of spades.
So yeah, we changed the image behind
James because it was the Donald Trump, Joe Rogan
one.
But now that it's just Biden, I was like, we have two images of Biden eating children.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So behind you, it's he's eating OK Boomer Girl.
That's normal.
Not a child.
But then behind James, we have Joe Biden just literally being handed a little girl who he
eats.
Biden is all over this room.
I don't know what George Alexopoulos was thinking when he made the one of Joe Biden just eating the little girl and everyone cheering and giving thumbs up as he does it.
But it is one of the greatest pieces of modern art I have ever seen.
Have you seen the meme where they took pictures of him like creeping on people's hair and stuff?
We'll bring him back.
Yeah, memes.
I love it.
Let's see.
Tim Paul says, hey, Tim, I always enjoy your show.
I just did a metal cover of Will of the People.
I would be honored if you would check it out.
My channel is just my name.
Tim Pauls.
It almost sounds like the exact same name.
I will look into it.
That sounds nice.
Michael Leone says, been watching since Fukushima.
You do great stuff.
You often mentioned making culture to impact the world.
So Minecraft playthrough
when? Probably never, but
Chicken City. Yeah, did you hear the song that I
wrote? Will of the People? No, I didn't. I'll have to show it
to you later. Everybody else, you can check it out. It's an
original song, and you'll love it.
It's very, very
political. In fact, I think people who are into
politics would probably like it more than your average
music fan, but I think it's a good song. I mean, I
wrote it. I have to be proud of myself, I i suppose you know what would be cool is if we had
a minecraft uh world of this house it might be a security breach type thing where we don't want
people knowing the layout of the house necessarily but if people could like walk around your house
and they'd be like oh i get to see what jim sees what we'll do is we'll put an ipad on one of those
like a big i got a segue or something And then you can log in and control it.
There used to be, they probably still have these, but there was this thing that my brother's friends had where it was a little robot that could be remote controlled by anyone you give access to.
And so this guy gave his friends access to drive the robot around his house and has a camera on it.
So you're driving around and you can yell things at people.
And it's just really funny to be this little like robot in your friend's house
and you go like the dog is like running you're chasing the dog yeah it's fun it was fun fun
little toy that's cool all right let's see woody says lived in sf and worked for a huge tech
company quit after seeing the critical race theory stuff jl had been warning about and now thanks to
him and tim kess crew I finally moved out of crazy California
and never voting Dem or lazy Republican
again. Here's to you all.
There you go. Awesome.
Oh, hello. Pablo Martinez says,
look at the post-millennial article of Sarah Silverman.
She's now claiming to be politically homeless,
and that's a former Hollywood elite
to respect. Never been a big fan
of Sarah Silverman's kind of humor, shock
humor, where she says, like, really offensive things things but i love the ability that i love she has the ability to do it
and so i absolutely welcome sarah silverman in with open arms to whatever group we are
in terms of not like politically tribed but still anti-censorship you're believing in truth and
weird stuff like that i'd look sarah should be allowed
to say all the stupid crazy jokes that she wants you know i agree i got a really good vibe from her
in 2007 and and just saw like she she could see through it a little better than a lot of people
she looks like somebody i actually know in real life so i get kind of confused there you go all
right here you go alan ortega says thomas sowell was once a marxist when asked what caused him to
change he simply said, replied, facts.
There you go.
I mean, that's how it works.
It's a pseudo reality.
Yeah.
Ethos Tattoo says,
I seen someone post about how much Fox makes
of service providers for their channel,
off service providers.
But I'd love to see how much MSNBC and CNN make
of ad revenue when a black man is shot by police.
It's probably high.
They probably get a lot of big boost in ratings.
You can actually Google search the ad rates for all of these cable channel, all these shows.
Brandon Toms says, James Lindsay, the woke Jedi, the woke Jedi, excuse me, will bring balance to the force.
Yes.
That's the goal.
There you go.
It's like, watch out, you know. you kind of seem like Qui-Gon.
I didn't know if that was going somewhere weird.
No, he's just a Jedi Master.
He adds, thanks for harrowing woke hell for the sake of all mankind.
I'll show you all my pungent later.
Oh, yeah.
I showed Lydia my pungent earlier.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
It was very thick.
Oh.
Kevin Pilgrim says,
This guy is freaking awesome.
Also, I wish Sour Patch Lyd saying yes
played every time I accomplished something.
Well, there you go.
It's an achievement sound.
We got a lot of really great super chats
from people just giving super chats,
so I really appreciate those super chats.
I love it.
Eric Miller says,
So the world is being affected
by an intersectional centipede.
Also, Tim,
you should look up
proto-saber.
Oh, I know.
I know about the proto-saber.
And there was one guy,
was it the Hacksmith?
Is that his name?
He made a proto-saber.
So do you know about
proto-sabers in Star Wars?
I don't know.
It was like,
they wore backpacks
because they didn't have
the power source
for the...
For the little handheld.
Yeah, exactly.
And so what this dude did was he made a gas-powered plasma.
It's crazy.
It looks like a lightsaber.
Whoa.
But it's just like a plasma jet, so it cuts through stuff.
Is that the thing that you saw as an ad on your Instagram?
No.
That one's a little torch.
It's a little torch lighter.
It's got a good beam, and you can can melt metal that's cool all right let's see
david hogan says biggest super chat yet broke warehouse worker from the chicago burbs been
watching you guys for two years you're the best love you guys thoughts on the change to propaganda
laws snuck into the ndaa back in the obama in obama era. I think that was more about foreign propaganda.
I'm not entirely sure.
I have to reread it.
Yeah, I don't know the law.
I think it was something about stuff that was made for American propaganda
out overseas could now be allowed to be played here in the U.S.
Hmm.
Yeah.
I'm not entirely sure.
That's been a while.
I mean, we're definitely inundated in propaganda,
and there's some books about propaganda that you should definitely read.
You should also read Edward Bernays' Manufacternays manufacturing consent which is an important essay it's like
eight pages long he's the father of modern propaganda right that's correct i mean we're
supposed to say public relations but that's a piece of propaganda in and of itself whoa it's
meta yeah info hole says richard dawkins developed the concept of a meme out of his contempt for
christianity but the idea of a meme as a virus that spreads rapidly between minds is oddly useful for leftism.
There you go.
Yeah, memes, I mean, the evolution of conceptual or symbolic conceptual things, it totally makes sense.
And what happens with what we call memes, like taking Joe Biden being a creeper and sticking Pepe Le Pew's face on it,
it really fixes it.
It's like that's genetic material, mimetic material combining with one another.
D Mills says, haven't watched the show yet, but just wanted to say, Lindsay is an absolute boss.
I've shared the New Discourses podcast on Antonio Gramsci with everyone I know.
So good.
A lot of people like that one.
You should check it out.
Yeah, I laid out Gramsci.
We talked about Gramsci.
I laid out Gramsci and where he came from, what he was thinking, what his plan was, and how it's relevant to today.
It's on New Discourses.
You can check it out.
All right.
Corey Steinfeld says, I really love the show, and I appreciate the center-center-left viewpoint.
You guys are awesome.
I'm getting into crypto, and I was wondering what your methods of buying and storing crypto were. Keep up the great work.
I don't think it's probably appropriate to talk about the ways in which we store.
Oh, like what websites?
There's multiple ones you can use.
You can use Coinbase.
BlockFi.com is another interesting one.
You can use Binance.
You're not storing your crypto if you do that.
Well, someone's storing it.
It's on the blockchain.
You're just using that to get to it basically if you go to any one of these crypto distributors or whatever and you buy bitcoin on
their website and just have an account with them they have the bitcoin okay you just agreed that
they owe it to you so if something bad happens like what happened with mount gox back in the day
you have no bitcoin yeah it's it's it's risky but super convenient to move it around if you
leave it on the internet. For the layman, you know, if you're not
it's cold storage. If you have a
huge amount, get a cold storage thing
like the Nano X. I have one of
those and then you can store it locally.
It's still on a blockchain but you get
to it through local keys. What you need
to do is really just make memes.
Memes. Like you put a laser
on your crotch and make that your
twitter profile you tweet hodl a lot um you know you tell everybody that james lindsey's going to
the moon i'll take tim pool with me i think it's the other way around but we're going to the moon
later tonight everybody buy conceptual coin it doesn't exist but buy it anyway we can make it
very very easily man spreading it is extremely easy to make an erc20 token all right ted 2 says the military is implementing a mandatory extremism in the ranks
stand down per secretary of defense to address extremism in the wake of january 6th we are being
required to watch a two plus hour speech about white supremacy and its influence look into it
on timcast please that's i think i did talk about it back when it happened before i wonder if that's
a new thing no there's a lot going on the military has been wokeifying pretty steadily
for a while i hear from people at a lot of levels you know from officer to brass to to um enlisted
and it's like people are they're wokeifying the damn thing it's not good it is not good so if
that's you you know you got to know the facts
for yourself and don't lose your head when you're getting you're not going to like reject this
you're not going to reject the structure of the military if you're in it so you have to keep your
head what's with all the 40k warhammer 40 000 yeah so many people are talking it's such a popular
game you guys are never you were gonna say well let me let me read this people love games as i was about to say yeah so 20 something drifter says tim we
need a clown block we need a death core of krieg block worse comes to worse we expose the normies
to 40k the emperor wills it and you shall obey honestly i bet there's a lot of metaphor between
the the there's the empire the imperials and the psychic emperor who's basically,
they have them like in a,
in a,
his body is like wasted away after thousands of years,
but his psychic energy persists.
Then there's space brains,
which are like genetically altered humans.
I could go on and on.
I don't know too much about it though.
Tap your swamp.
Yeah.
You can always just tap the swamp.
There you go.
Tap your swamp.
And then cast dark ritual to
get three black mana and then you know past necropotence and firexian negator and get your
turn one five five and then you win seven seven flying tramp block with turn one five five you
know lord of the pit you knew which card i was talking about seven seven seven seven flying
tramp is the only thing i remember from magic Biggest, baddest card in the early days.
Yeah, like way back.
All right.
Siren?
Magoan, probably pronouncing it wrong, says, I'm a 37-year-old skateboarder.
We look at life from a different perspective than the rest of the world.
We need little.
My wife and I pulled our young kids out of school in March 2020.
We've seen this coming.
Yes. And, uh, if you would like to watch me skateboard,
you can search on YouTube for Tim pool,
nolly,
hard flip,
rewind and hang 10,
hard flip.
And my good friend,
Brett Novak filmed and produced those videos.
And they're like some of the best tricks ever on flat ground.
Trust me.
If you want to see me skateboard,
you can download the same video and get one of those,
uh,
deep fake apps and put my face on Tim. Yeah. Boom. got all right let's see aurora ds says any thoughts on
unrestricted warfare written by ccp members that calls for the weaponization of everything to
destroy the west is there a chance this is just a new kind of warfare utilizing useful idiots in
another country to destroy it from within it's an old kind of warfare using new tools.
It's political warfare.
It's not new.
We just forgot what it is in the West.
Like I said, the communists assessed this 40 years ago and said that literally the Americans' ability to detect political warfare is so degraded as it may as well not exist.
So it's an old form of warfare.
It's the political warfare.
It is the most important concept you've never heard of.
It is what we're in the middle of right now.
All right.
Superman, if he wasn't scared of green rocks, asks,
Tim, quick question.
Not looking for financial advice, but how many people on the show are invested in AMC or GME just out of curiosity?
Well, I can say for myself, I have no AMC or GameStop stonks.
I do not.
Do you do any of you guys?
I don't.
No.
Nope. Sorry. We're just not diamond hands enough i'm so deep in crypto i think that that was an important event though
i didn't want to buy those because as like covering the story i didn't want to be a
contributor to any like rise or gains and then have a stake in it but i do have nokia because
i actually like nokia i used to do a lot of tech work with and i have i would have like every single
cell phone and we did some mobile apps and I was doing mobile live streaming.
So when I heard there was a report that came out that Nokia was doing well, it is one of the meme
stocks, but I guess it's not doing well, like nobody really cared. I just like the idea of,
you know, having some stock in a tech company. And then like, reports are saying that Nokia is
going to do well. So I own some but I'm not giving anyone advice. That was just my opinion on why I
did. Yeah, I don't have any advice at all, except that
I think that, it's like you, it's like,
you know, I comment on this. I think the GameStop
thing was super, super, actually,
symbolically important. Yeah.
Sonny James says they probably can't fund
the police in those areas anyway.
Half of the cost,
I would charge to risk my life
for those coward politicians.
CDC issued warning about zombie virus.
When all of them peeps pour out of those starved cities, me thinks.
Did you guys hear about the zombie, the CDC zombie virus?
That's like a joke thing they've always had.
Yeah, but I was thinking today, we were talking about earlier, me and Adam were on his show,
about how Hitler framed the Jewish population as rats.
And if we get to a situation where people are so homeless and destitute that they start to roam the streets in desperation and start eating other
humans dead bodies like cannibalizing that it may be framed that they're zombies it's okay kill them
all and that people are desensitized to it because of propaganda like that dude this is like some of
the best left-wing cred that i still have like nobody believes me it's like i used to see like
i never really watched tv but my friends were all, like nobody believes me. It was like, I used to see, like, I never really watched TV,
but my friends were all into like the walking dead.
And I was like,
this is a bad metaphor.
This is a bad,
every right-winger is into like killing zombies big time and seeing them
everywhere.
This is not good.
So it was like,
I thought I was a little afraid that the walking dead was like propaganda for
right-wingers to start thinking of leftists and zombies.
And there's like,
no dehumanization is good. Yes. Like don't do it't do it i agree all right we'll do a couple more super
chats we got one from jason hopper he says diamond hands gorilla in pillow form and harumph i'll buy
both all right we will uh i will get those graphics transferred over to pillows and make
them available for everybody it is our gorilla so that's that's that's the mock-upow, the graphic, but then you see the burlap sack over there?
Yeah.
That's the official prototype for the...
Oh, that's the real one.
Yeah, we're doing a commercial where we're legit going to buy airtime on TV and...
Oh, no kidding.
It depends on if we can get it timed properly.
So we're working on it.
We are.
And we want to do it at a specific strategic political moment.
I'll just leave it at that.
And I've already talked to Fox about it.
I told him on Twitter that if he doesn't make one the size of those beanbags, like huge beanbags that you can use as a bed and call it the Hogzilla, that it's not real.
Like he's not committed until that happens.
All right.
Hear him.
Luminiscent says, hi, Tim.
Good podcast.
Any news when Laowai and Serpentsa will appear here?
They are concerned about COVID.
That's their main holdup right now.
But we are going to make it happen.
But everything's reopened.
Not everything.
Yeah, I'll follow up with them.
Okay.
Laowai's really good, though.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
He's really good.
All right, let's see.
I think maybe we can grab one more.
Elle says, great show, James.
You are brave.
And please know you are in my family's nightly prayers.
How do you see this critical race theory thing ending?
I've seen you mention bullets, scary stuff.
I don't have, I mean, like it matters a lot on if I'm blackmailed at the moment you asked me that question.
If people will actually do like we've just said on the show repeatedly, which is start saying it's ridiculous, start speaking plainly and truthfully about it.
Start showing up and using what's left of the institutional mechanisms because a lot of the institutions are not dead.
A lot of the institutions are filled with people.
And I know because I just spoke with some in the last two days that just don't know what it is.
They have no idea.
I'm talking about like legislative bodies.
I'm talking about school boards.
They have no idea that this is what's actually happening.
If you start informing these people that it's like the Hail Mary, then there's a way out
of this where, in fact, it all can almost evaporate, as I think Helen put in Cynical
Theories as like a puff of its own contradictions or something like that.
But if it continues to take over more and more and more institutions, the ways out are very slim.
And I don't think that – and I don't advocate bullets.
It's a terrible thing.
I don't advocate – that is the worst thing ever. When I say that, what I'm actually thinking is that the United States is not a country that is likely to go the route of peasant societies like China was in the 60s or like Russia was in 1917.
They're not likely to just kind of go along with this and fall into it, or Germany was in the 1930s.
It's likely that there will be fighting back, and that's a worst case scenario short of just outright losing, in my opinion. So start speaking up and speaking honestly. And the way
out of this works out by just speaking the truth and pointing out this is not what it purports to
be. It is reinventing racism. Nobody wants this. And start telling other people that in plain,
easy language. And you can actually convert people into understanding this.
And then it's like we're not beholden to just like sleepwalk off a cliff here.
Yeah, that's so important.
Right on.
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