Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #245 - Biden Flailing As Over 100k Migrants Spark Border CRISIS w/Col Allen West
Episode Date: March 17, 2021Tim, Ian, and Lydia are joined by Retired Lieutenant Colonel Allen B. West to analyze what's happening on the Texas border, what secession really means vs what the media says it means, HR 1 as governm...ental overreach, and the US Army's reversal of PT requirements as women fail. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Right now, Joe Biden is getting slammed by CNN.
He's getting slammed by the left and the right over his handling of an escalating border
crisis.
They're saying that encounters have now surpassed over 100,000.
He's reopened some of these facilities for detaining children that even Donald Trump
closed.
So he's getting flack from the progressives.
He's getting flack from the conservatives.
He's not doing enough.
He's getting flack from many of these people on these border states. So we're going to get into this.
We're going to talk about a bit of what's going on with the culture and a bit of the cultural
crisis we have here in the US where the hyperpolarization is resulting in talk of things
like secession. And it seems like Joe Biden, when it comes to the COVID response, when it comes to
his leadership, he's not actually speaking to red states. He's only really speaking about blue states, leaving many conservative Republicans kind
of upset with the job he's doing.
But this was, I'd imagine, predictable.
Hyperpolarization has been expanding in this country for quite some time.
It's been getting worse.
It was particularly bad under Donald Trump.
And I think we can be very critical of the media for a lot of this.
And now it's probably only going to get worse because it seems Joe Biden
simply got elected just because a lot of people didn't like Trump. We now have a poll coming out
that suggests less than half of voters think Joe Biden is capable of even handling the job of
president. So we'll have a good discussion about it. And we have a really great guest tonight.
We're being joined by Alan West. I'll just let you describe yourself and introduce yourself
however you'd like. Well, it's good to be here with each and every one of you, Ian, Tim, and Lydia, former retired Army Lieutenant Colonel, former member of the United States House of Representatives.
As a matter of fact, it was 10 years ago that I was serving up here in the House of Representatives and now also the chairman of the Republican Party of Texas.
So it's a pleasure to be here with each and every one of you. And I kind of get this feeling like this is Logan's Run
and I'm Peter Ustinov
and I'm being brought back into the city with
all the young people. I mean, this is
kind of cool. Well, I'm 35.
Well, I got you by 25 years.
But I'm still dead in Logan's Run
universe. Yeah, you're dead, but you're
a runner. Right. So you came out
and you found me in Sanctuary and you
brought me back to the city. What's the premise? I never saw it saw it oh my god when you turn they have a light in their hand that yeah
like when they when they turn 30 they get killed oh geez so like but they tell them you're being
renewed but you're not being renewed you're being killed yeah yeah so they bring people back no
there was there was one person that was the oldest person and there was this place called sanctuary
and that's where the runners went to so that they can live a full life.
And they found this person out in Sanctuary.
And they brought him back to show to the people that you can't grow old.
So it's kind of interesting being here, you know, my salt and pepper flat top with you all.
I think you're still pretty significant in the political landscape.
You're chairman of the Texas Republican Party.
Recently, you had a quote, and all of a sudden the media was in uproar saying you were calling
for secession of Texas from the United States.
But you made a really good point.
You kind of had this wink moment at the press where you kind of baited them into it.
Well, absolutely.
That's one of the things that the military teaches you is that you always think about
before you do anything, before you take an action, you think of how would your opposition look at this?
How would they respond to and react to it?
And so basically what I said is that here in the United States of America,
there should be a union of constitutional law-abiding states that form together.
And now, of course, the left went crazy about that.
But if you look at the preamble of the Constitution, what does it say?
We the people of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect union, first thing, establish justice.
So if you're going to get into an argument with me about constitutional law abiding states coming together, abiding by the rule of law, then you're going to lose that argument.
They're basically saying they're the ones who aren't abiding by the rules.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Yeah.
And so yesterday, I don't know if you can pull it up, but every Monday I put out what
is called a Chairman's Monday Message, and it goes out.
And so yesterday, the title was Constitutionists versus Secessionists, because really the people
that are seceding in the United States of America are the people that are breaking away
from the Constitution.
You look at the legislation that they're passing, H.R. 1, which is trying to nationalize
federal elections.
Show me we're in the Constitution, that the federal government has the enumerated power
to run elections.
That's the state's right.
That's the state's responsibility.
We're going to get into all this.
We'll just keep this as a shorter introduction.
But I do think it's interesting considering you're in Texas,as you're a border you're a border state you've got
serious issues with the migrant crisis that you know illegal immigrant crisis absolutely illegal
immigrant crisis um biden's being heavily criticized for his inability to handle it
and i mean you're you're also you know everything we just talked about with the constitution and
these states and the hyperpolarization so it's going to be interesting we got ian hanging out
what's up everybody i Crossland in the house.
See, Ian was trying to interview
the West here.
And I'm like,
Ian, you've got to wait.
I want to know about
your military background,
your time in Congress.
What does the chairman
of the Republican Party do?
We're going to have
a great conversation.
We got Lydia Press
and all the others.
Yeah, trying to sneak
more interviews in
with our guests
before they get on air.
That's Miss Producer.
That's correct.
Mark Levin has Mr. Producer.
You got Miss Producer. Yeah, that's right. Thank you. I value that. That's Miss Producer. That's correct. Mark Levin has Mr. Producer. You got Miss Producer.
Yeah, that's right.
Thank you.
I value that.
I like that title.
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highlight a couple of little snippets and then we'll just dive into this conversation. CNN,
of all outlets right now, surprising. They report Southwest border crisis leaves Biden
vulnerable on all sides. They say the White House may be loathe to call the situation on
the southwestern
border, which hundreds of migrant children are crossing alone a crisis, but it's fast becoming
a political emergency for the president. We have Fox News reporting that encounters have topped
100,000 in just February as the migrant crisis is spiraling. So here it comes. And, you know,
so so, Alan, you're in Texas. Yeah, you're the
chairman of the Republican Party. I mean, this is an issue that's very seriously affecting you.
It's incredibly affecting us. And one of the things you have to understand is that Texas is
the number one state in the United States of America for human and sex trafficking. Dallas
and Houston are the top two cities. So that's an important part when you start to have all of these
unaccompanied minors that are being brought in.
What happens to them when they're just released into the society?
As a matter of fact, they're looking at bringing 3,000 of these illegal immigrants into Dallas to put them at the Kay Bailey Hutchinson Convention Center.
Then where do they go from there?
These are minors.
These are minors.
And so when you understand that atmosphere, when you understand the illegality of drugs to the
cross and the drug cartels and how they're getting richer, it comes back to a very simple premise.
Why do you break something that is working? If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And so you had an
immigration situation that the Biden administration took over. It was fine. No one's talking about it. Everything is okay.
But because you are so owing to the progressive socialist left
and they have this open borders agenda,
then you make the faux pas of going in and creating a catastrophic situation
by executive order, and now you don't have a means
by which you're going to take care of it.
And the important thing that the Biden administration needs to understand right now, there's no
orange man bad.
Yeah.
There's no Donald Trump boogeyman out there for people to look at and have that distraction.
Now, all they're doing is saying, we got an issue.
We got a crisis.
And no, Jen Psaki, you can't circle back to it.
You can't say that this is just a challenge.
This is affecting people, black, white, Hispanic, Republican, Democrat, independent,
libertarian, whatever you want to call it, because you are destabilizing one of the largest states
in the United States of America. Well, something interesting you just mentioned, it was working,
right? Yeah, the system was working. Well, Pelosi says the Biden administration inherited, quote,
a broken system at the border.
This is from the Hill on March 14th.
So they're already deflecting.
And I think, you know, I've covered the migrant crisis throughout the past several years extensively.
The number of encounters and migrant children had dropped dramatically.
Incredibly so.
Under Donald Trump.
Yeah.
I mean, what we're talking about in the entire last year is what we've already seen in the last six weeks. And so this is a crisis situation. And, you know, again,
they can try this deflection, but the hypocrisy becomes absolutely laughable if it weren't so
serious. It's kind of like, you know, the Cuomo Kavanaugh, you know, hypocrisy. But they can't
fall back and say, well, this is Trump's fault. I'm sorry.
Orange man is gone.
Literally, Pelosi's trying to do that.
They're trying to resurrect the boogeyman,
but it's just not going to work.
You know, banning him from Twitter
sure did backfire on the left
because Trump would be tweeting right now.
He's silent.
Yep.
Nothing to say.
And you know what?
I would say, President Trump,
if you're watching me,
remember me?
I used to be your congressman
because Mar-a-Lago was in my district.
Stay silent.
Allow them, as Napoleon would say, never interfere with your enemy when they are destroying themselves.
What was this executive order that Biden signed that's screwing with the border right now?
Well, he basically has said one of the things was that there will be no deportations. And our attorney general sued him on that. But he is also, you know, you guys won,
right? Yeah, we won that we have a stay on that. So we can continue to deport. But one of the
things that he did was he said that this whole thing about you must stay on the southern side
of the border in order to be processed for your asylum. That's over now. And so now they understand that they can do the asylum processing in the United States of America,
and that's why they're flooding in.
And we have gone back to the catch-and-release system where, you know, everything about this COVID,
but yet you had 108 illegal immigrants that tested positive for COVID in Brownsville, Texas,
and they were taken to a bus station and they were released. So is the Biden administration serious about COVID? I would think
that you would not allow 108 illegal immigrants to just flow right into the state. There's a lot
of hypocrisy. Tons. And it's kind of crazy how often we can all bring it up and it doesn't seem
to change. But what I do notice is that one of the areas of hypocrisy is the woke critical race theory
type people, the progressives, they use the phrase Latin X, something that most Latinos
don't recognize or even use.
And what's fascinating is the shift in the Southern counties in Texas, mainly Latino,
went for Trump.
Yes.
Dramatically.
That was a huge story of the November 2020
election in Texas. And my theory was that kind of like the mentality of paratroopers,
paratroopers jump in behind enemy lines. And so why didn't we just go and take our message into
the areas where they thought they were strong into the Rio Grande Valley and talk about our
principles and values, talk about the open borders, talk
about the legal immigration, talk about strong families, strong small business entrepreneurship,
better education opportunities, not defunding the police, talk about the threats from the
drug cartels.
And guess what?
They're like, yeah.
And when you look at the policies of President Trump, where you had record unemployment in
the Hispanic community, when you look at the oil and gas industry that was thriving, which meant good paying
jobs, black, white, Hispanic, it doesn't matter.
Then they say, yeah, we like this direction.
Now, all of a sudden, this Joe Biden comes in and their communities are being threatened.
The drug cartels are being empowered.
The illegal immigrants are coming back in, which means a taxing on them
and their tax base to provide additional services. It means a lack of safety and security.
So they are alienating further this area that they once thought they completely control.
This is a big, big story of the November election, as you mentioned, Trump winning over more votes
for minority communities
across the board.
Most in 60 years.
Yeah.
That's something to stress.
I mean, when they talk about Donald Trump as a racist, then explain to me how he had
the most minority electoral support of any Republican in 60 years running for president.
And who did he lose?
He lost white voters.
Yeah. And so I wonder who is really buying into this,
this message about immigration, you know, Trump is racist for wanting to, you know,
deport illegal immigrants and things like that. Certainly isn't the minority communities that
are literally on the borders who are experiencing what happens with unfettered migration.
Or the black communities, they're going to see their wages being depressed,
their job opportunities going to be gone as well.
And they saw that they were thriving in the Trump administration.
But look at it and think about it this way.
The suburban white woman that was told, again, orange man bad, he's a nasty person, he doesn't like women, his tweets are horrible.
Now, all of a sudden, the suburban soccer mom has to ask herself, why is this six foot two gender dysphoric biological male
going to be on the soccer field with my daughter?
That's not what they voted for.
Well, they should have paid attention to what they were voting for.
But again, now that's why it comes back to that poll that you just talked about, how
a lot of people don't see Joe Biden as being capable of being the president and all of these things that he is implementing by way of the leftist agenda.
And it's going to be the same thing for young people.
I mean, I think that with President Trump, you had a cultural president connected with young people.
He's a little rough or whatever, but that's something that you get with a New Yorker.
But now you have someone that, you know, if you think that free equals freedom,
you're horribly wrong. Yeah. One of the main issues that seems to have been lost on the left
is the economics of mass migration and illegal immigration that even Bernie Sanders was
criticizing back in 2015. Here's this guy. He's the champion of the left and the progressives.
In 2015, he said, open borders is a coke brothers
proposal he was basically saying these big billionaire industrialists want cheap labor with
no rights with no with you know that they can get in there for below minimum wage and they need these
policies in order to do it and there were big scandals i remember i watched a documentary
where some of these companies would bring in illegal immigrant labor promise them a bunch of
money and at the end of the month just call immigration and have them all deported.
And they were exploiting these loopholes.
They wanted that porous border for this purpose.
But that means these factories were actually taking away good paying jobs for low skilled
labor in these areas for working class Americans.
Yeah, absolutely right.
And that's why you see the US Chamber of Commerce that it's all about, you know, the open borders and the illegal immigration.
That's why you see a lot of these big businesses and corporations don't want E-Verify.
What is E-Verify?
E-Verify is the system by which people are registered and you can track individuals.
They don't want that. And so you have you have some partisanship on either side with this this issue.
One, people want to bring in new victim class.
They want a new voter base.
The other side wants to have a cheap labor base.
But in the end, who is getting squeezed and who's going to be the most affected?
Your middle to lower income levels, blacks and Hispanics, are going to be the ones to
suffer with the scourge of illegal immigration.
I liked what you said about free does not mean freedom because we built a system
of law and rule that has enabled us to be free to experience freedom in our system.
Like you have to abide by a strict rule of law so that you don't get jumped when you're
walking down the street and you can feel free outside.
Just dispensing with the rules and this Antarctic free society does not lead to freedom as we
understand it.
No, it doesn't.
And when you think about what was going on, I mean, you grew up in Chicago and I remember
seeing the riots that were happening in Chicago with these Black Lives Matter, social justice
warriors, and they were going in and busting up all of those stores on the million mile.
Magnificent mile.
Magnificent mile.
And what were they saying?
This is how we're going to get our reparations.
A woman is actually quoted as saying that she didn't care when asked about the right she said this is reparations as
far as she's concerned there's a video of a guy firing a gun into the window of one of these
shops trying to steal luxury merchandise look i'm not a big fan of like luxury brands i think it's
you know it can be a bit pompous but I'm I think it's fine people have that stuff
I don't think someone should go and shoot guns and steal it because they think they're owed
something no but it was defended in the media and that's the sad thing and that's the breakdown
of the rule of law and order remember that you know when um John Locke wrote his second
treatise of government and he talked about this thing that was completely
different.
It was natural rights theory that was different from divine rights theory.
And John Locke came out and said that there are three inalienable rights that we have
from our creator.
It's life, liberty, and property.
And what do you see happening with the left?
All you got to do is go to the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx.
It is about taking away that individual right to property.
And that is what you see happening in America now.
It's a wealth redistribution scheme that says,
I don't care how much you work hard, Tim.
I don't care how successful your podcast is.
I don't care how well you're doing here, Ian.
It is our right as the government to come in
and take it away from you and redistribute it to someone else.
That ain't freedom.
I had a good conversation with a socialist.
I think it was the Socialist Party of Great Britain or something.
And they basically said, when I brought up that point about property, they said, no,
no, no, no, you don't understand.
In socialism, you're allowed personal property.
It's very different from private property.
Like a watch?
Right.
So when they said they're banning private property, I'm like, so what, I can't have
clothes?
And they're like, no, no, no, no, that's personal property. Private property is like a building.
And I'm like, okay, so let's try and find that line of where you split personal property from private property.
They were trying to explain that private property in their system means the means of production, the factory for producing things.
Ah, nationalizing production.
Well, so here's the question I had. Okay, well, I do my work by filming myself with a camera.
The camera is my means of production, my factory essentially.
Should that camera be owned by someone else or should it be my personal property?
Didn't really have a good answer for it because it's a weasel word excuse for some justification for seizing people's private property.
Absolutely.
Personal property is meaningless.
Your shoes.
Okay, but what about my car?
What about my bike?
What about my food, my refrigerator, my home?
Where do you draw the line?
And they said, ultimately, well, we don't necessarily know.
Of course you don't know.
Your system is magic.
It doesn't make sense.
And it's broke.
It has never been successful.
And so let's take that philosophy and let's over plan it to the last year dealing with this COVID issue.
Show me in the Constitution where any elected official has the enumerated power to decide who or what is essential in the United States of America.
Show me.
They've done it.
Yeah.
But show me in the Constitution.
Coming back to your statement about the rule of law and freedom, show me in the Constitution where it says that any elected official, politician,
can come to you and say, shut down your business. Shut down your livelihood. But yet,
I will continue to be paid. Isn't the 14th Amendment barring them from doing that?
That people must be treated equally under the must be treated equal protection under the law
yeah absolutely but but see when you have the ability to redefine the law or fundamentally
transform the law and say that well you know we don't really know what it is but we're kind of
deciding as we go along and if we continue to have and let me say this correctly when we morph
from being people to being sheeple we are allowing ourselves to be fear-mongered and intimidated into surrendering our everyday liberties and rights.
Remember what Benjamin Franklin said.
Those who would surrender essential liberty for temporary security will in the end deserve neither liberty nor security.
And lose both.
And lose both.
They won't deserve either.
So that's what we're talking about when we say free does not equal freedom.
If you want something to give you something for free,
you're surrendering your freedom to that person.
Let me ask you, you bring up the Constitution
and elected officials have the right to tell you you have to close your business.
My response is I think the 14th Amendment says equal protection under the law.
Do you think that's fair to say that these politicians,
these states are by chance violating the Constitution of the United States?
Absolutely they are.
And as a matter of fact, you have had several state Supreme Courts that have come back and said, hey, what our governors did with these mandates, edicts, orders and decrees were unconstitutional.
We are a constitutional republic.
That means we are governed by a rule of law.
We are not a constitutional monarchy where someone sits up like Ramses Farrow and says,
so let it be it, and so let it be done, and we're supposed to all fall down like subjects. We're
citizens. And I think that's what's so important. If there's one message I can get to the young
people, you've got to understand the structure of this government. You've got to
understand the roles and responsibilities of the respective branches. You've got to understand
your rights, because if you don't, they're going to be just absolutely confiscated.
I want to read for you a quote. This is a very important quote from a very smart man who said,
perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a union of states
that will abide by the Constitution. Texas GOP Chairman Alan West said in a statement Friday
night, the Texas GOP will always stand for the Constitution and for the rule of law,
even while others don't. Very funny joke. I know it's your quote. But you said that. And just in
the context of what has been happening, not just this was in the context of the election and the Supreme Court's ruling.
Yeah, against the state of Texas and the other states coming together about the unconstitutional actions.
Right, right.
Looking at that, looking at the bigger picture, I think it's fair to say we are seeing the Constitution be used—
well, I won't be too disrespectful myself, but let's just say they are absolutely disrespecting, violating, and turning the Constitution into Swiss cheese.
Completely.
So you had the statement that many said you were essentially calling for secession.
And it actually sounds like you were accusing them of secession.
You know.
You know what this is, right?
You got the Declaration of Independence right there.
And the Constitution.
See, it's falling apart because, you know, I take it everywhere I go.
So let me see.
Let me go to, where's that whole preamble thing?
Oh, there it is
so the preamble we the people of the united states in order to what form a more perfect union
and in order to form a more perfect union what's the first thing we do establish justice
so again coming back to that piece that i wrote yesterday constitutionalist versus secessionist
the people that are succeeding or the people that are
violating this document, the people that are constitutional and law abiding, like we saw in
this past election cycle, you had several states where governors, secretaries of states and courts
did unconstitutional actions. The only people that can change election law is the legislative branch.
Yes. But yet that's not what we saw happen. So that's not a debatable thing.
I mean, YouTube is not going to counsel you out
unless YouTube doesn't understand the Constitution.
But yet we have people that allowed that to happen.
Absolutely.
We had numerous instances, I think 24 states,
where outside of a legislature, election rules were changed.
And that's wrong.
Some of these states didn't challenge it.
Many of them did.
Yep.
And somehow, none of them got standing or ruled on the merits.
And that's horrible because if you're a state of Texas and you join with 17 other states
and you are going to constitutional right, petition your government for redress of grievance
against another state, there's only one court you can go to.
The court of original jurisdiction is the United States Supreme Court.
The United States Supreme Court cannot say to Texas that we're not going to hear the case.
They didn't.
But that's your job.
Right.
And so, again, we have this abdication of the rule of law
and those constitutional duties and responsibilities.
And for those people that want to say that, you know, I'm talking about seceding,
well, then what was the National popular vote interstate compact all about,
where these blue states were going to come together and undermine the electoral college?
Okay, which is in the Constitution is in the Constitution. So they're the real secessionists in your head. Yeah, I feel like they're using martial laws like impetus to to you know buy bypass rights and and they're they're acting like covid
is such um an emergency that they have to do this now you served as lieutenant colonel and i imagine
you understand the the necessity for martial law in certain situations if we were under attack
or something horrible you know 9-11 yeah worst case scenario power grid goes out
evasion whatever yeah like the lights went out in Texas just recently.
People would be, and in the past have been stripped of their constitutional rights.
You know, habeas corpus was suspended.
Abraham Lincoln.
Yeah.
So.
But this ain't it.
This ain't it, folks.
Okay.
Let's honestly talk about COVID.
We're talking about something that has a 99.96% recovery rate.
Okay. We're talking about something that has a 99.96% recovery rate. Even the CDC came out last fall and said that out of all the deaths attributed to COVID, only 6% were because of.
94% were basically people that died with COVID.
They had other comorbidities.
They were obese, high blood pressure, heart disease, type 2 diabetes, all of these things.
So—
Well, so I'll push back a little bit and give my standard clarification.
I guess the only way I can really break down kind of a middle ground on this assessment
is these people would have lived longer had it not been for COVID.
So some of these people died of renal failure.
And a lot of conservatives have pointed out—
But how much longer?
I mean, how do we know that? I mean, some of these, I mean,
you look at the preponderance of the deaths with COVID were above 70 years of age.
Yes, absolutely. I mean, a very strong majority.
Is that the reason why you go in and suspend the constitutional rights of an entire country? Well, so here's the point I want to make.
Even if it were that COVID was the number one cause outside of any comorbidity, the answer is
still no. We have to respect as a community when we set certain, we have emergencies. But even when
you look at the grand total, I think it's 97.5 percent recovery when you include those over 70
i mean that's still ridiculously high granted that's looking at a lot of deaths that you know
2.5 percent out of 330 million yeah but every year you average almost 600 000 with heart disease
right and obesity yes and we don't every year we don't lock down the country we don't mandate
calisthenics programs no we do not shut things down because people are doing things that can be arguably socially contagious, like bad habits.
Think about how stupid it is.
Okay.
So we know obesity is one of the things that, you know, together with COVID causes death, but yet we're going to shut down gyms.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean.
Keep alcohol stores open.
Not only that, but vitamin, lack of vitamin D.
Yes.
Dr. Fauci himself said we lock everyone in their houses.
Stay inside.
And we know that COVID was spreading more inside than outside.
We lock everyone in their homes with no sun, with no exercise, and a higher chance of rate of spreading COVID.
What did people think was going to happen?
But see, the thing, and again, no emergency is grounds to suspend a rule of law.
So what this was was a grand experiment in control.
Well, do you think the Civil War was grounds for suspending the Constitution?
Abraham Lincoln did it.
I know, but I would not have.
Yeah.
I mean, you cannot suspend people's habeas corpus. But the interesting thing is that you had a situation where we were fighting against each other within the same spaces.
I mean, here we have West Virginia being on one side, Virginia is on another side, and Pennsylvania is on another side.
But still, you don't suspend constitutional rights no matter what.
And that goes back to what Franklin Delano Roosevelt did with the Japanese, Americans, with the internment camps.
I understand the criticality of the situation, but you do not suspend people's constitutional rights.
Agreed.
But they have put their toes in the water, and they found that the water was very receiving.
Yeah.
And so what is the next step?
Well, have you heard of this? The Great Reset,
the World Economic Forum? I mean, I think that the U.S. has been co-opted by the Federal Reserve
and global banking establishments, and they're using our military and our economy. And where
do you find the premise of central banking? Switzerland and the Bank of International
Settlements. Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. Is that really in there? It is. Centralized
control of banks, just like centralized control of education.
Just like progressive tax system.
You know, we have a tax
system in the United States of America
that's based upon the principles of Karl Marx.
A progressive tax system.
And so, again, there's
so much of this out there that if a
dumb old boy from Georgia
who used to jump out of airplanes
for a living, if I can figure this out, you really smart people can figure this out.
Well, so let's, yeah, I couldn't fly airplanes.
I jumped out.
Oh, wow.
So we'll have a conversation on this because there are a lot of things that are more liberal
or left-wing policies that I agree with.
But my challenge, one of the things that always leaves me more of a moderate in the middle
is implementation.
So when I look at the progressive tax, I think about people like George Soros.
I think about the Koch brothers.
I think about – did I say Bezos?
I said Soros.
Bezos.
Yeah.
Extremely powerful individuals who have so much wealth, they've actually shut out the working class from the election process.
So I'll give you some examples.
Mike Bloomberg dumping $500, $600 million into the election.
Oh, we saw that with Mark Zuckerberg.
$300 million.
Yeah, into Texas, directly to a county clerk's office.
So no, we should not allow that to happen. a large portion of my life, I was very much in favor of a progressive tax system where we have a higher percentage for people who make more
because of, I guess,
arguably called the law of power, right?
Power attracts power.
The more money you make,
the easier it is for you to make more money.
And this money allows you to invest,
reduce risk, live comfortably.
If you make $10 million,
it's very, very easy for you to make more
because you have so much access and things like that.
So the-
You see, I would disagree with you.
Disagree?
Yes.
How is it that a kid that doesn't even have a college education can grow up and be a multimillionaire
in the United States of America?
They can.
Yeah.
And so it's about the equality of opportunity.
What you're talking about is the corruption of power.
Yes.
And so what it takes, I mean, much the same as Sir Edmund Burke said,
all that's necessary to triumph over evil is for good men to do nothing. So if we continue to have
a political elite system, which I think even Anne Rand kind of wrote about, if we have a political
elite system that teams up with the corporate cronies and the elites of corporations like what
we see with big tech right now,
then you see a usurpation.
So my view of the progressive tax was, in a simplistic kind of way, you can create a
system that makes it harder for people with extreme wealth to utilize that wealth as an
advantage over the working class in the arena of politics.
That's my core reason.
And I agree with you.
That, like I said, is the corruption of power. Here's the problem. Giving the money to the government
doesn't solve the problem because now you have another monopoly that has all of that power.
And so you've got permanent bureaucrats that would take that money from the ultra wealthy and then
just maintain their control. So, you know, ultimately, while I still kind of view that as a better alternative, simply
because there's many bureaucrats versus the one billionaire who can flood the zone with
money and shut out the working class, I ultimately still see it as a problem that needs to be
solved beyond.
We don't allow them to flood the zone.
Exactly.
So that's the other point I would make is maybe the solution is more simply some kind
of restriction somehow.
I honestly don't know how you do it.
Well, this is where I think it starts is one of the things that Mark Levin wrote about in his book Liberty Amendments is term limits on members of Congress, House and Senate.
Because the longer people are up here in Washington, D.C., the richer they get. I mean, ask yourself, how could a young lady from Brooklyn, New York,
that was a bartender, have a posh penthouse apartment in Washington, D.C.?
And you know who I'm talking about.
Yeah, isn't it like three grand a month or more?
It's a lot.
Okay?
It's a lot.
And so, you know, when I was in Congress 10 years ago,
I had a, you know, fully furnished little basement,
I called it the bat cave.
Didn't even have a window. They're members of Congress sleeping in their offices. Yeah. It's
a big problem. So how does it, and I disagree with that. So how is it that, you know, this person
that was a former bartender now has a posh penthouse apartment over there by Washington
Nationals Park? I'm telling you, is this's this. And so it's that marrying of the corporate cronyism
to the political elitism.
That's what we all should come together for.
I agree.
I hear it from the progressives.
I hear it from the Young Turks,
and I completely agree with them.
The problem is the Citizens United ruling,
which I'm sure you're familiar with.
You've got these super PACs,
these political action committees.
How do you tell someone they can't spend their money
to buy a commercial?
I mean, it's a free speech.
I don't mind people buying the money for a commercial.
I don't want them buying a politician.
Well, how do they do that?
You make sure that they cannot buy a politician.
You pass the laws like what we're doing in Texas right now in our legislative session.
It says, Mark Zuckerberg, you don't get to come back in here and dump $100,000 in Harris County so that they can go out and, number one,
try to do universal mail-in ballots, which is against Texas election law, and they expand curbside voting,
which is completely against Texas election law.
So that's what you do.
Our states have power.
That's why you have a Tenth Amendment.
It says all the powers not delegated to the federal government are reserved to the states and to the people.
So our states need to assert their powers and make sure that like say coming back to hr1 and some of these
other things to be in past constitutional nullification was pretty much so passed in
north dakota let's talk about hr1 yeah right so it passed the house passed the house it's not yet
gone to the senate right well it's over to the senate but the thing is right now this is the
concern right now the senate still you have to have 60 votes to end the cloture, which means that you can go into the final vote.
If they change that and get rid of the filibuster, then you got problems.
Now, what keeps the Democrats right now from going straight to getting rid of filibuster?
Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, West Virginia and Arizona, have said they will not support getting rid of the filibuster.
So we'll see what happens.
Well, they can just all of a sudden snap their fingers and be like, yeah, no more filibusters
allowed.
And now it's, then it would be 51 votes or 50 votes in a tiebreaker.
Dude, they have way too much power.
And the tiebreaker is Kamala Harris.
And see, that's why the Senate was set up to be the upper body of our legislative branch.
And it will require 60 votes because what the founding fathers wanted to make sure,
sure, you got the representation of the people. That majority but over here in the senate that's the clearinghouse
so everything can't just get rammed right through you really have to have a deliberative body
so let's uh break break down for me hr1 i've read a bit of it there are some things that i actually
like but there are some really alarming things it's incredibly alarming because hr1 nationalizes
elections you talk about nationalizing production and confiscation of property.
What HR1 does is takes elections away from the states.
It says that all across United States of America,
there'll be universal mail-in ballots.
It says that there will be no voter registration reviews anywhere in the
United States of America,
no picture ID for voting in the United States of America.
Felons can vote.
There will be same day voter registration and voting.
There will be online voter registration. And it sets up an independent commission for redistricting. States right now do their own redistricting. Why do the Democrats want to
take over redistricting? Because Republicans control 62 of 99 legislative bodies across
United States of America. So the Republicans are in control of the political reshaping for the next 10 years of the respective states. The Democrats don't like that. So H.R. 1 is completely
unconstitutional in every way, shape, form, or fashion. Now, of course, the Democrats are going
to throw some nice things in there to try to entice you to do it, and they're going to give
it a real nice name, For the People's Act. But it is an oxymoronic title with the emphasis on the word moron because what it does, it
takes away the ability of states to run their elections.
What good stuff did they put in it?
I hadn't seen any really.
Well, I'm in favor of felons being able to have the right to vote.
You mentioned that.
It sounds like you view it as a negative.
I think it was don't do the crime
if you can't do the time remember sammy davis jr saying that for you know serpico uh there has to
be consequences and ramifications for breaking our law you know i mean i the way i see it is
there there's there's two really big things for me when it comes to felons if you commit a crime
and then you are you know you're handed down some kind of punishment, penalty,
or something from a judge, you serve your time for the crime, your rights should be
restored.
Your right to own a gun and your right to vote, in my opinion.
So should a rapist be able to own a gun and vote?
I think the answer is yes.
After they've paid their debt to society.
I can't go there.
Well, what if they serve-
I got two daughters, so I can't go there.
So you and I are going to disagree on that one.
Respectfully.
Because first of all, if you did that to my daughter, you got to deal with me.
There's certain things that stand beyond the courts.
And again, I don't like to blanket one size fits all.
If you want to look at certain offenses where if someone does their time, then they're restored.
I agree with that.
But to make the blanket statement, I can't.
And it's state by state right now, right?
Like in some states, felons can vote.
Yeah, I think that Virginia is one of those states.
And there's a reason why.
I think that's actually a really good point.
I think there's probably some crimes where you do not get your rights restored.
So we had a conversation the other day about the Second Amendment.
And I said,
if the Constitution says your right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed,
there's no caveats in that. It doesn't say if you're a felon. So as far as I see it,
while you're in prison or on probation or on parole, whatever it is, you are serving punishment.
You can't have a gun. But I think once you've paid your debt to society, your rights should
be restored.
Well, again, and I would say that if you're a person that went out and committed aggravated
assault, if you committed a gun-related crime, I don't know if I want you to come back and
get or a spouse abuse or something like that.
But let's talk.
It's a good point that you talk about.
I just think it's funny that I might be further right on 2A than you.
I don't think so.
I'm on the board of the National Rifle Association.
But you talk about H.R. 8, which is another thing that just passed the United States House of Representatives.
And so think about what H.R. 8 does.
Let's say you've got a friend that, you know, is waiting to get a firearm, but they just had someone break into their house.
And you want to, you know, hey, here's my, you know, P365 SIG or here's my Glock 43.
Do you know that you're now a felon because of what was just passed?
Well, so it didn't pass the Senate yet, though, right?
No, but it's passed in the House.
Right. And so, again, you know, we've got to understand when we say it hadn't passed passed the Senate, but we have to start thinking about what is the mentality, what is the philosophy of governance of the progressive socialist left?
Because that's what you see happening in the House of Representatives.
H.R. 127, H.R. 130, I know that you've got firearms here, but do you know that Sheila Jackson Lee says that you cannot have any loaded firearms in your house?
What?
That's H.R. 130.
What's the point of having it?
Well, I'm sorry.
I mean, I'm the government.
Yeah.
I know better than you.
Did it pass the House, 130?
H.R. 127 and H.R. 130 have not come up.
H.R. 8 was passed last week.
H.R. 8.
And so this bans the private—it effectively bans the private sale of firearms because you would need a federal background check no matter what.
So there are certain places where, I'm sorry, that makes literally no sense.
They like to call it the gun show loophole, but it's literally not a loophole.
It's just the private sale.
So let's put it this way.
There are many states that allow the private transfer because it makes sense.
If you live in, West Virginia is a good example.
The middle of nowhere in West Virginia, in the mountains, and you've got a neighbor who's maybe two miles down the road, and he's like,
look, man, we're getting really bad 30 to 50 feral hugs. And you're like, well, why don't I sell you
this here firearm so you can keep your property safe, help keep your kids safe and your crops or
whatever. Or even I loan it to you. Oh, yeah. You can't do that either. Can't do that either.
That's a felony. Right now you can in West virginia so long as you're not giving it to
someone who is ineligible so there is still a responsibility on you if you're like here i'm
gonna you know lend you this rifle and it turns out the guy's a felon now you're in trouble i'm
gonna sell it to you but now under hr8 you would have to go to an ffl and then do the the and i
what is it with the next background
check for the individual thing 4473 right and then go through a standard transfer now me personally
i don't live out in the middle of nowhere so i don't think if i was going to do a transfer i'd
go to an ffl anyway just so it's a clean transfer and my name's off of it but i certainly understand
why there might be a guy who's like for his brother i'm gonna give you this weapon
to guard you know the you know your your property or the the five acres in the back i'm letting you
use hr rate would make that illegal yeah so it's it's it's make you a felon yeah that's messed up
i don't like this like maybe like even if maybe it could be reasonable if it was like an
administrative fine of some sort but not even that but think about this okay when my When my oldest daughter was going to Southern Methodist University, she was getting her
master's in biochemistry and humma humma because she's really smart like a mom.
And so she had to stay late at night to do, you know, lab experiments and lab works, whatever.
And so SMU is located close to downtown Dallas.
And so I loaned her my 9mm.
I said, keep it, you know, so that when you're
walking out to your car and parking lot, you just make sure that you're safe. HRA makes me a felon
for saying to my daughter, here, take dad's nine millimeter so that you can be safe when you're
over there late at night. And I think your daughter knows how to use a nine millimeter.
My daughter has fired a Barrett. She's daddy's girl. Both of them.
And so 50 BMG. Yeah. And so this is my concern. And again, this is why I'm so glad to be here
with young people is that you are seeing a slow usurpation, confiscation of your rights by people
that have a mentality of a philosophy of governance that has never done anything
to promote freedom.
You mentioned earlier term limits.
I'm a huge advocate for that.
Yeah, 12 years.
How would you see-
12 years.
Okay, how would we do that?
This is how you do it.
Well, I mean, they're not going to vote for it themselves.
Okay.
And so that's why the founding fathers were brilliant.
It was almost as if when they sat down 200 and some odd years ago and wrote the Constitution,
they said, how can these stupid idiots screw it up?
And so they figured out every single fail-safe backdoor method.
And so therefore, they came up with Article 5, which is a convention of states, not a
constitutional convention, a convention of states, whereby if you get 34 states and they
assign delegates, they can come and they can recommend an amendment to the Constitution,
like term limits on federal House of Representatives and senators. But if you get 38 states,
states can actually change the Constitution. States can amend the Constitution. That's Article 5.
So one of the things that you should look at is why are these guys staying up here forever?
You know, there are certain states out there to have term limits on their state house members state
senators everything's working fine so if you have 12 years up here and i base that on two terms of
the senator that's 12 years six terms in the house of representatives that's 12 years and it's not
transferable you don't get to say well you know I've been over here for 10 years in the House, and now I'm going to run
for Senator, and I'll get another 12
years. No, it's 12 years total.
So we have 36 states,
34 states,
and you can recommend an amendment
to the Constitution. And then the Senate would have to
Yeah, the House and Senate has to vote on it.
So we need 38.
And do we need a majority in each
state, just 51% 51 percent no 38 states to
come together and and vote to have be participant in an article 5 constitution states theoretically
that that convention that's just the legislative bodies that's just the legislative bodies right
now i think we're at 16 okay for for republican states the republicans control a majority of
legislatures but right now we're at 16.
Wow. Well, so let me
I can loop this back into the gun control thing
because you mentioned they could recommend
an amendment to the Constitution. At 38, they
can get it.
Second Amendment says the right to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed. Yeah.
But in New Jersey, if you bear arms, you
will be arrested and you'll be a felon. Yeah.
In New York, in Illinois, in California, your right to keep and bear arms has been
infringed quite literally as worse, as bad as it could be.
And guess what?
That comes back to exactly what I said.
Law-abiding constitutional states.
That's what I talked about in that article, constitutionalists versus secessionists.
The people that are going against our constitution, they're the Secessionists.
I agree.
So when you look at a state that is telling you that you cannot have your constitutional right,
I don't understand why anyone in any state would sit back and say,
well, okay, you don't get to give it and take it.
Just the same as you cannot tell me as a private business owner, I must shut down my business.
There was a post on the Donald Forum.
They changed the name.
It's Patriots.win now, where they were talking about the right to keep and bear arms has
been infringed.
And there was a lot of sentiment saying-
Ammunition, magazines, all of this stuff.
And so a lot of the sentiment I found to be, I'll just put it this way.
I won't comment my opinion, but people were saying, then express your right to bear arms and
gain judicial standing to sue in defense of the Second Amendment.
Absolutely.
That's a bold statement to advocate for.
No, but think about it. But there are two cases, D.C. versus Heller. Richard Heller,
and I know him personally, was afraid. He just wanted to be able to have a firearm to defend
himself in Washington, D.C.
They told him he couldn't do it. He went to the Supreme Court. He won the case. Otis McDonald,
black man, Chicago, took on the city of Chicago, McDonald's versus Chicago.
That was relatively recent, wasn't it?
That was back in the 80s. Yeah, back in the 80s. But a black man just wanted to be able to defend
himself in his home. And he took the city of Chicago to the Supreme Court.
So it's already been done.
It's already been taken.
So we have proven that it has standing across the United States, it has standing in states
and local municipalities, but yet we still allow people to undermine the most important
right that you have, because the founding fathers understood that your First Amendment
rights, the freedom of speech, press, expression you know symbol freedom of religion petition to govern for
regress or grievances those are passive rights if you don't have a mechanism to defend and secure
those rights they're going to get taken away from you the and that's why they have the second
amendment the great modern thinker dave chapelle said the second amendment is just there in case the first one doesn't work out.
And he's absolutely right.
That's an amazing statement.
Dave Chappelle's amazing.
But it's absolutely right.
And you think about there have been only two instances in the United States of America of a revolution.
Okay.
And that was the American Revolution and in Texas.
And both of those revolutions started because of what?
Gun control.
Gun control. The British
were marching toward Concord, Massachusetts
to destroy a weapons and armaments factory.
On April the 19th
of 1775, they were
met at Lexington Green because they understood
if you're armed, you're a citizen.
If you're disarmed, you're a subject.
October the 2nd, 1835
in Gonzales, Texas, the Mexican
cavalry shows up because they want
a cannon back that they had given to the people
of Gonzales to protect themselves against the Comanche
raiders because they were hearing about this
thing called a revolution amongst the Texians.
The Texans
replied with that famous response, come and take
it. Those are
the only two instances
and so this is i'm just all you leftists they're out there this is a very bad thing that you all
are doing well hold on the the far left they're super pro 2a it's the establishment suburban
liberal types they're so the the larger portion of the left voter, the Democrat voter, absolutely in favor of gun control.
But that element of progressives, the socialist types, I mean, they're armed to the teeth.
They might not be as nearly as skilled or well-trained or physically fit, but you can see it on Twitter.
They're advocates.
Yeah, that's kind of like the guy that was part of an Antifa Black Lives Matter rally down in Austin, Texas.
He had, I think think an ak-47 he
went up to a car and started shaking his ak-47 and inside the car was an army soldier that's right
and he popped him yep so it look they absolutely are in favor of guns but again they don't seem to
be as well trained there are some groups that are there are there are left-wing socialist and
communist militia types where you can tell these guys have real training but they are few and far
between yeah but if you go to your average antifa person oh they're they're all about weapons i mean
they show up with explosives they show up with guns in portland and lasers and lasers yeah but
we recently had there was a story of a woman who was in portland during the riots she had a she had
i think she had a glock 17 they want guns you had that guy um what was the guy who went to the ice
facility in tacoma oh yeah willem uh yeah bronson yeah he he had himself a a ghost a ghost gun that
he brought and was using against an ice facility these are leftists this guy was a vowed antifa
but see the thing is that and and you you into another subject, is that what Antifa or Black Lives Matter does is going to be acceptable.
But if you have the constitutionalists, the law-abiding legal gun owner, those are the people that the other side does not want to have the firearms.
And so there's a hypocrisy in that regardless.
And I think that is the danger that we see.
The military perspective, if you were looking at this like a combat situation, would you then infiltrate the Black Lives Matter Antifa segment so that you could utilize it to overthrow or propagate your victory?
Well, I mean, that's one of the forms of maneuvers, infiltration.
But we already
know who they are. We already know what their structure is. I mean, look at the silliness of
the fact that, you know, Facebook, Twitter and all these other guys, they want to kick, you know,
conservatives off of these platforms. But yet Antifa, Black Lives Matter, they're still operating
on these platforms. I mean, the Iranian mullah over there, Ayatollah Khamenei, is still
operating on Twitter. So again, we know everything about them. It's so interesting is that all of
these folks that were participating in January the 6th, their houses are getting raided. They're
being picked up just like that, being arrested. All of these folks that we see over a year or more
that have been doing these you know attacks raids and
continue to do so nobody's arresting them there there was this uh thing that happened with a
journalist at the new york times named taylor lorenz tucker carlson it became this huge story
and i took the approach of you know we shouldn't engage in this kind of you know specific name
calling i understand you want to be critical of a journalist because of what
they do but i was pointing out that you've got to go after the ideas and the institutions not
the individual now a lot of people told me i was wrong they said tim they started the fight and
we're fighting back and my response to this is after everything we've seen with the the january
six people they're getting their they're getting the house raided they're getting smeared in the
press relentlessly some of them can't even get lawyers and i'm not talking about the worst of
the worst i'm talking about the bumbling lady.
At what point did you think that you were fighting symmetrical warfare where you want an equal footing with your opponent?
You're not.
It's a double standard.
You're second class.
If you protest, they call it a violent riot.
Oh, you're an insurrectionist.
And if Antifa shows up with guns and firebombs a federal building for 100 plus days, they call it a peaceful protest.
So at a certain point, you have to realize that the media apparatus will villainize you no matter what you do.
And you've got to be very, very strategic about how you approach this.
Understand the rules by which they play and exploit them for strategic victory.
But if you throw mud the same way they do, you're doing what they want and they're winning because they made the rules.
It reminds me of like – it very much reminds me of The Matrix.
You've got the idea of the blue pill, the red pill, people who are in the narrative, people who aren't.
And the agents, for some reason, super fast, super strong.
But as they explain in The Matrix, they still have to abide by all of the same rules.
They explain that Neo, who somehow gains the abilities of these agents, is just understanding
their rules and controlling the matrix in the way that the agents do. Once you realize that,
then, what is it? What does Neo say? You're talking about I can dodge bullets? No, I'm saying
that once you realize how the media narrative works, you won't have to. You won't have to.
And that's one of the things that Lydia and I were talking about is read Sun Tzu.
Definitely.
Because you have to have a strategic mindset to understand exactly what you said.
Find the gaps.
Find the means by which you can exploit the other side.
Find their weaknesses.
Because if you continue to have the frontal assault mentality, you're going to get gunned
down.
All you got to do is ask Pickett about that charge he just did right up there.
I'll tell you one of their weaknesses, the Grammys, if you really want to get through to these people, write a hit song and play the Grammys next year.
Because that's what they need right now.
Well, so at the Grammys, they did a pro-Black Lives Matter, pro-riot performance.
They had Tamika Mallory come out and say, we don't need allies.
We need accomplices.
I mean, it's outright advocacy for the violent riots.
And so the interesting thing is when you hear someone say Black lives matter, and this is something I want to tell everybody out there.
The first thing you should respond to say, which black lives matter.
That's right.
Put them totally on defense because.
Does Candace Owens matter to these people?
No, I don't think so.
I don't matter.
You don't matter.
That's right.
The 20 million black babies that have been murdered in the womb since Roe v. Wade in 1973 don't matter.
The blacks that are killing themselves in gang violence in Chicago, they don't matter.
The young black kids that are being locked out of schools because of these teachers unions and they're falling further.
They don't matter.
And so, again, we have to take that title and find a way to flip it on them and put
them on the defense and just say which black lives matter i mean i will say strategically
for for one i think it's probably obvious to you the abortion argument never works because it's
just the the view of what constitutes life to the left and to liberals and conservatives
is different but see this is what i say, okay, so you guys are so woke.
And everybody's a white supremacist.
Everybody's racist and all this kind of stuff.
Well, who founded Planned Parenthood?
Margaret Sanger.
A white supremacist, a racist, who spoke at Ku Klux Klan rallies, referred to blacks as
undesirables and we, 73% of Planned Parenthood clinics are in black neighborhoods.
So why is she canceled?
They did cancel her. Who? They disavowed Margaret Sanger. Who? The Planned Parenthood clinics are in black neighborhoods so why why why is she canceled they did cancel her who they they disavowed Margaret Sanger who the Planned Parenthood
who the the people who at Planned Numerous people at Planned Parenthood like came out and said you
know we apologize for this and yeah denounce their own history shut down yeah why didn't shut down
well you know that's not actually like cancel culture may be a thing for you.
No, but see, they can disavow it.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
So if you're going to go out and think about, OK, so Black Lives Matter.
So why did you allow people to tear down the statue of Frederick Douglass in Rochester, New York?
Why did you allow?
That's one of the few things that really got to me, especially.
Well, it got to me, too.
Frederick Douglass was amazing.
He was an incredible man. Why would you allow the monument to the very first black man that wore a uniform for the
United States of America, the 54th Massachusetts Regiment, to be desecrated?
Who was it?
Did you see?
Huh?
Do you know the guy's name?
No, this council culture, they went and desecrated the-
Do you know the name of the guy in the statue that got torn down?
Frederick Douglass.
Oh, he was the first black dude?
No, the 54th Massachusetts Regiment was the first black unit.
I mean, these were slaves and freed men that fought for the United States in the Civil War.
And they desecrated their memorial in Boston.
Did you see the video of the two white Antifa women spray painting on property?
And the two young black women are like, what are you doing?
Yes.
Stop doing this.
And they're like,
don't worry,
we're helping you.
Yeah,
you ain't helping me.
No.
As a matter of fact,
there's a great book
by Jason Riley.
It's called
Please Stop Helping Us.
No,
it's serious.
He's a Wall Street Journal.
That's a great title.
Yeah,
please stop helping us.
something I often bring up
my experience in Ferguson.
And so for those that are,
you know,
listening,
you may have heard me tell the story, but I'd love to tell it to you, Colonel West. I was in Ferguson during the riots, and I witnessed young black men linking arms to protect the convenience store as people were running around and looting. And they were begging. They were saying these people, telling a journalist, Sebastian Walker, at the time Al Jazeera, not for Vice, was there. And he said, what are you doing?
Tell me what's happening.
And this young black man says, we live here.
These are our communities, our businesses.
These people who are looting and rioting don't live here.
Gets a phone call.
And he gets all, he's like, oh, it's my mom.
Seb Walker, he's like, don't worry, I got this.
And he takes the phone and I'm standing there.
It's one of the like, just most profound, amazing moments I've experienced in a riot.
This journalist takes the phone and he's like,
yes, hello. Yeah, I'm with your son. No, he's being very responsible. He's a very good young man. And like the dude who was guarding the convenience store from the rioters, his mom,
he's getting vouched for by this journalist. It was amazing. But you know what happens next?
An article gets written called In Defense of Looting, which said that those people who came
to victimize this community were actually just lashing out against white supremacy. This individual
then later wrote a book about it. This person, of course, is a white progressive who knows nothing
about this community and what they actually wanted and was being exploited and destroyed.
I remember during the peak of the Black Lives Matter riots, we had that rapper, I think his
name was Big Mike, basically just exasperated saying, why did you come and burn down black businesses in Atlanta?
This is not about Black Lives Matter.
No.
But that's exactly what they were doing.
And that's why you should respond, which Black Lives Matter.
You know, I look over there, you got on that piece of art, then I'm afraid you ain't black.
The George, the G Prime one.
Yeah. How utterly condescending and disrespectful that was from Joe Biden to say that if you don't have this mentality, if you're not going to allow yourself to be a victim, you're not black.
It's either like racism or just idiocy.
I think maybe probably both.
It is both.
Oh, God.
Racism is idiocy.
But, you know, I love it when you hear the Democrats talk about systemic racism.
Well, let's just look at their history.
The purveyors of systemic racism in the United States of America has always been the Democrat Party.
Okay?
In 1961, I mean, again, going back to the Logan's Run thing, I'm a little bit of a relic.
There's not probably too many people that you can find that were born in a blacks-only
hospital. I'm one. Wow. Which one? Hughes-Balding Hospital in Atlanta, Georgia. I grew up in the
old Fourth Ward. That's Dr. King's neighborhood. Wow. And so I kind of know a little bit about
being black. And I kind of know a little bit about equality of opportunity versus equality
of outcomes. But when we have a party that has systemically throughout history done everything
they possibly could to destroy a certain community to now the mechanism of destruction is economic
enslavement, not physical enslavement. Now the mechanism is to try to have this soft bigotry of low expectations.
But you still get the same result, victims and enslavement.
And so when people, it's just unconscionable to me when I hear the Democrats and the people on the left,
and they have these modern-day gatekeepers called Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and the Congressional
Black Caucus trying to keep people as victims, it just turns my stomach to hear them try
to lecture us about being racist.
Have you seen what's going on at these universities?
Well, absolutely.
The return of segregation.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, why would you want to sit around and say, well, we want the black student union,
we want this and we want that. We want to sit around and say, well, we want the black student union, we want this, and we want that.
We want to restore separate graduations, separate proms and schools.
I mean, why are we going backwards?
I think that it's, maybe it's going to sound crazy, but the Communist Chinese Party, Chinese
Communist Party, they used to go after Han supremacists.
We had James Lanzini last week, he was telling us about this. And it was all about supremacy, Han supremacy.
You're either Han supremacist or you are Han or not.
And so now it's white.
Now the word is white supremacist.
It's all about dividing.
And I mean, they say they play the long game.
This is like a 30-year, 60-year psychological trauma.
They're establishing trauma on our side.
Well, if you go back and listen to Joe Biden's speech,
Joe Biden's speech was not about unity.
Joe Biden's speech was about conformity.
Joe Biden's speech was saying,
we can be unified if you conform.
And if you don't conform, now you're a white supremacist.
And oh, by the way, we're declaring war against you.
So Joe Biden, the incoming president
of the United States of America,
stood there and basically said
that they are
declaring war on the
74 to 75 million people that didn't
vote for them.
That's the ideological civil war
that we're in. And when you start to
look at some of these pieces of legislation
being passed out of the House of
H.R. 5, the Equality Act.
H.R. 5 has nothing to do with equality.
It has everything to do with a
progressive ideological agenda that takes away your freedom of speech and your freedom of what
is it hr5 basically says that the lgbtq agenda has been codified in the law if you speak out
against it if you are a pastor you you you know specifically yeah it adds uh it's a protected class gender identity as a protected
class in the 1964 civil rights act and there's a lot of muddy waters this is very different from
when we you know when we when we litigated non-discriminatory actions it was one thing
and this is the argument we often hear is to say a gay couple wanting to get a cake it's a different
thing to be like well you can do whatever you want
in the privacy of your own home.
It's not our business to interfere with that,
so you deserve equal protection under the law
and things like that.
With the Equality Act,
it opens up things like high school athletics
to biological males,
so women's sports will now be opened up.
Title IX is done.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's done?
It will be done.
What's Title IX? Title IX is. So, so it's done. It will be done. Oh,
what's the title nine title?
Nine is women's sports,
women's athletics.
And so scholarships and scholarships.
Uh,
as a matter of fact,
there's the case of these young girls up in Connecticut where two,
uh,
gender dysphoric biological males are competing in the a hundred meters and
200 meters.
They just blew them away.
They broke the record.
Can we just make,
I mean,
it's a little pie in the sky,
but like new sports, like you could have male sports, female sports, transgender. No, no, no, no, They just blew them away. But don't you care about them? Yeah. Who cares about women's rights? I do.
I care about human rights.
So actually, let's do this.
Let's jump into this story about the U.S. Army.
Oh, yeah.
I know where you're going. So, I mean, you may be an expert on the armed forces, having actually been in them.
But we have a story from Ladbible.
For some reason, I chose Ladbible.
U.S. Army could reverse gender- gender neutral fitness test as research finds women struggle so i've got i've well i've had family
in uh i come from i can't actually come from a military family everyone but me basically was
either married into or served and i remember hearing stories from i i briefly lived just uh
just off of base housing in Fort Eustis.
Eustis, yeah. Newport News.
And I also briefly lived on Fort Carson
in Colorado Springs. Oh, yeah. I know it very well.
Heard a lot of stories from people who
had no problem bringing up men or women, that
women have a different standard. Now, first of all,
you know that in the House of Representatives, you can't
say men or women. They got rid of that language.
Yeah, that's Nancy Pelosi's rule. She got rid of
gendered language. What's the situation now?
What do you say?
Hey, them.
You.
Yeah, you.
How is that woman still?
But anyway, we'll stay on the military thing.
So, you know, I remember hearing stories from people who went through basic training and they would say, you know, the women would complain and be given special leeway and things like this.
There were certain medical issues that women had to be granted special access to facilities that men didn't get.
And so very much were given special treatment. Apparently, at some point, they wanted to do
gender neutral testing. And my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, they were saying that
it used to be that women did well in women's specific testing. And that means they would
get promotions. Once they went through,
once they implemented gender neutral testing,
where it was even for both males and females,
the women were struggling to score well against the men
and not getting the promotions,
thus creating inequity.
Disparity, inequity.
Inequal outcome.
Yeah.
See, women had the equal opportunity
to compete in the same tests.
Yeah.
But because the standard was standard, the men just tended to do better on physical tests, meaning the women weren't in the promotions.
So now they're apparently going to reverse this.
You told me that you had stories, you knew people.
I don't know what your thoughts on this would be.
Well, let me put it in this context.
Why do we have men's downhill skiing and women's downhill skiing pretty innocuous thing i mean why
don't we just have men and women competing in downhill skiing why do you have something
something for some reason men can spin faster jump higher yeah you have men's figure skating
and women's why do you have men's hockey and women's hockey men's basketball men way more
bone density oh the shape of the hips oh okay So why is it when it comes to your national security that you want to say that there's no difference?
I don't get it.
Okay.
We are in serious trouble when it comes to this.
Listen, I am absolutely all for trans rights and LGBTQ rights and the respect of the individual and equality under the law.
But we have to be real.
Let me tell you something, Tim.
In the United States military, I could put a guy out for being overweight.
You cannot join the military if you have flat feet.
Yep.
So now all of a sudden we're going to say, and this is what the American Psychiatrics
Association calls it, gender dysphoria, a mental condition.
So now we're saying that the United States military has to accept people with a mental
condition and then provide them hormonal therapies at the taxpayer expense. What does that
have to do with our national security? That's another one of these feel good things. While,
as you just talked about, the Chinese Communist Party, they're building their army, they're
growing their hegemonic dominance, they're expanding their Navy. And we're over here saying,
why can't we be fair and have more equity and let everybody play in the
sandbox? I have tremendous respect for everybody who serves or wants to serve. But I think that
someone who's overweight could find, we could find a role for them that's a net positive for us.
They don't have to be in combat. They don't have to be in maybe one of these standard positions
that require the physical fitness. But I certainly think trans people as well as overweight people
could, we could absolutely find them to be a net positive for armed forces.
But now you're telling me that the United States military has to accept someone with a condition, a mental condition determined by the American Psychiatric Association, which means they're going to have to provide counseling.
They're going to have to provide hormonal therapies and all of this type of stuff at the taxpayer expense.
I don't think that's what the military is an existence for.
The United States military is a volunteer organization.
We have to have standards.
We have to have rules.
We have to have, you know, guidelines because we are not looking at being a everybody come
and join and play.
That's not what the United States military is as a voluntary organization.
Now, if it was a draft organization, that'd be something different.
If it was an organization where we had obligatory service, then that's something different.
But let me let me just put it in these terms.
I'm 60 years of age.
I'm five foot nine.
I'm about 206 pounds.
This morning I got up and I knocked out three and a half miles, did my, you know,-ups and crunches and everything. If you put me in a ring with Ronda Rousey or any mixed martial arts, yeah, they probably
could get in that kick on me because I'm 60, maybe I'm a little slow.
But if I get one punch to their head, what's going to happen?
You know, I defer to Joe Rogan on this one.
And he talked
about this quite a bit they got mad at him for it but he pointed out that men have bigger hands
stronger grit bigger joints and it's my bone density density it's all of those things it's
projecting power i twitch muscle twitch fiber i think there is an issue if we are displacing
strong able-bodied individuals with people who are not fit to serve for a variety of reasons.
But I also think that, you know, in my personal opinion, you know, I look at, say, like a trans man, someone who was born female, is on, you know, therapy and is now a, you know, trans man.
I think there's a net positive to anybody who's willing to serve this country, and we can find a way to make that work.
Now, that being said, I also understand biological differences between male and female, and I think there are reasons why we tend not to have women in combat roles, though I think now we do this.
That came because of the Obama administration.
Once again, it's about the social engineering of our military.
Let me tell you something.
A bullet doesn't know male or female.
There's no doubt about it. But the
one thing that my number one
standing order when I was a
battalion commander and we ended up going to Iraq
in 2003, my number one standing order
was keep your bayonet sharp. Why did
I say keep your bayonet sharp? Because you never
know when you're going to have to go into close quarter combat
with the enemy. That's right.
So, I got a question
along those lines as a leader uh
as a commander in the military now if a woman were to be in a commander role do you think you
need the biggest baddest dude like the tough strong men to be commanders or could you get
small female commanders that would be as good or better than men? Do you think there's? Well, I will tell you that there is an example of leadership that without a doubt is necessary.
If you're going to be a commander of combat troops, you got to kind of look like a combat
troop.
And let me put it in this perspective.
If I walked in here with you all today and I said, and I'm a retired army lieutenant
colonel, and I had, you had, I'm not picking at you,
but I had hair like yours, Ian.
Oh.
No, you see, but if I had hair like yours, Ian,
and if I had a little pooch belly and everything like that,
when you kind of look and say, scratch your head,
and say, man, he don't look like a,
be honest, be honest.
Well, let me just, I'll just make a point.
No, be honest.
Would you say in the back of your head, man, he don't, you see literally. He definitely retired. Well, see me just, I'll just make a point. Now, I'll be honest. Would you say in the back of your head, man, he definitely retired.
Well, you see what just happened with Tucker Carlson and that Marine?
I know exactly what just happened.
He got accused of being overweight, out of shape.
You know, and again, I don't think that we should have the United States military, senior officers and senior enlisted men attacking a news personality.
Yeah, I agree say that that that
goes against you know we're supposed to be protecting freedom of space let me say something
in regards to like this this you know army testing and stuff i've been skateboarding my whole life
i'm sorry but i i i actually worked with uh some individuals who are part of an organization i'll
leave their name out i don't want anyone to get dragged but uh i had a good friend who was one of the best female skateboarders in the world
at a certain time period i went to the x games vip access we got to hang out she was a really
good friend of mine growing up and i got to listen to a top female pro tell these young women they
will never be as good as the men i actually took issue with that back then saying like
if you may believe
that but don't discourage people tell them to strive to be the best and and to view that as
competition to be better but when you look at you mentioned skiing i'm thinking skateboarding
there's no question you watch men's you know x games skateboarding and you'll notice a very
obvious difference between the male and the female skateboarding. But actually, I actually took some basic first aid training.
I've actually done hostile environment training, so I got a bit more extensive.
And when I was younger and trying to learn some of the basics of first aid,
because I skated all the time, and my mom was like,
it's important, you should learn some stuff, Google it, and I did.
I learned some things about sports.
Women are more likely to suffer knee and ankle injuries, skateboarding than men because of something
called the Q angle, which is the hip, the wide hips of females means that their femurs are at
a wider angle than men's, which means they're more prone to joint injury than a man is.
And the same thing in the military, when you start talking about going for a 12 mile ruck march,
and you've got 60 pounds on your back,
and really in combat you're carrying a whole lot more.
But you see the sustainment of those injuries
because there is a physiological difference.
Now, coming back to what your question said, Ian,
I want the best possible person to be out there as a leader.
But the thing is that you've got to be able to lead
and accomplish the exact same tasks that you're asking your troops to be able to do.
When I was in combat, I was right up there hooking and jabbing with my guys.
If there was a X percentage of my unit that was dedicated to a combat operation, I was out there.
Okay.
And so that's the thing that has to happen.
You know, combat is not about social engineering.
Combat is not about equity. Combat is about you against another person and killing that person. You know, that's that's what war is. War is hell. That's what William Tecumseh Sherman said. And as a matter of fact, it was a Nathan Bedford Forrest. And hopefully no one gets upset because I'm quoting a Confederate general. But Nathan Bedford Forrest is war is about fighting and fighting is about killing.
That's the bottom line.
It's not a computer game where you're sitting back and you got a bunch of drones or whatever.
The bottom line is someone has to be on the ground and point something at somebody else and eliminate them.
And that's what we need to be thinking about because that's what the national security
United States of America is all about.
Now, I'll say something that will probably offend a lot of the left where I'm actually
trying to make a point in favor of women in the military is that there's that saying,
we heard it recently, was it soldiers march on their bellies?
Something to that effect?
Yeah.
That you need to keep a military well regulated in terms of their equipment, not in terms
of law.
You need to keep them well fed and like a well-oiled machine.
When Tucker Carlson made these comments about flight suits for pregnant women, I disagree with him.
I think that a lot of these jobs, and this is explained to me by a lot of people, there's a lot of logistics, there's a lot of administrative work.
I can't fly a fighter jet, and there are female fighter pilots.
I can't fly a helicopter, and there are a lot of female attack helicopter pilots.
I was just a dumb old paratrooper that jumped out of airplanes, and I was an artillery officer.
And what I am saying is that, yes, there are positions and duties out there that people can serve in,
but there are still standards that say your body and your physiology will only allow you to
do X. And so if we want to start having women as Navy SEALs, if we want to have women as Green
Beret, just pass the same doggone test that everybody else is. And don't have what we have
seen where all of a sudden there's an altering of rules,
there's an adding of more chances and opportunities to get out there and try to accomplish something,
because a lot of guys don't get that.
I want to give you my thoughts on the transgenders serving the military issue.
You mentioned that the DSM-5, I think, says it's a mental condition,
and that's actually been staunchly advocated for by many trans individuals because it grants them access to medication.
But I digress.
There's a lot of people who say they have diabetes.
Legitimate question.
Would diabetes prohibit you from enlisting or serving?
Absolutely.
It would, yeah.
Epilepsy, all these things.
I mean, you know, heart murmurs, sleep apnea. I had one of my captains in Iraq, you know,
has... But is that just combat? Could you run an administrative role? Could you drive a vehicle?
No, but maybe. But again, what are you doing? You're creating two separate classes.
I mean, but let's be fair, though. The Navy SEALs are the best of the best of the best.
Yeah, but you cannot create fair, though. You can't. Navy SEALs are the best of the best. Yeah, but you cannot.
Yeah, but you cannot create two separate classes where we say, OK, you can go be in the fat boy unit.
Yeah.
Well, see, no, no, I'm serious.
You laugh.
But let me tell you how brutal it is in the United States military where the military I grew up in.
You the fat boy that falls out of run.
Oh, man, you're going to hear it.
But you become the ripped boy soon, don't you?
You better. Yeah. If you want to stay in. But you become the ripped boy soon, don't you? You better.
Yeah.
If you want to stay in.
Yeah.
So what happened with the captain?
I'm sorry.
What happened with the captain was sleep apnea?
Yeah.
So if you enlist and you're overweight.
Well, if you enlist, okay, you're going to have to meet height and weight standards before
you can ship out to basic training.
Interesting.
And even when you go to basic training, you're still going to be monitored and you still have to make those height and weight standards before you can ship out to basic training. Interesting. And even when you go to basic training, you're still going to be monitored.
You still have to make those height and weight standards.
Okay.
And again, you know, on active duty, you got to continue to have your height and weight
tests and your body fat examination.
If you don't make it, then you go.
I don't care what level that you rise to.
Now, what happened to the captain in Iraq?
I had to send him back home.
Oh, gee.
Out of the combat zone.
Sleep apnea.
Was it like sleep apnea? And you don't know how hurtful it was for me as his battalion commander to look at this kid who had tears in his eyes, begging me not to send him back, begging me, telling me that he'll make it through even though he can't get sleep and everything.
But I was seeing.
Was he overweight?
No, he wasn't overweight, but he had sleep apnea.
And I was seeing how it was affecting his duties because he couldn't get sleep.
Messy weather.
Yeah.
That's true.
And I couldn't have him go out there.
And the next thing you know, he's a detriment, not just to himself, but to someone else.
And I had to tell him, I got to send you back home.
So you need the best of the best of the best, the cream of the crop, top of the top. Well, I mean,
you got tip of the spear. You got SEALs,
Delta Force, or whatever. And then
you got, you know, your everyday soldier,
sailor, airman, marine. But you've
got to still have maintained certain standards
throughout that strata.
Did the captain get honorably discharged?
Of course he got honorably discharged.
But he didn't get moved to a civilian or like
a non-combat role.
He was just actually discharged from the military?
Yeah, he ended up being discharged from the military because it wasn't treatable.
But he couldn't be in the combat zone.
And when you talk about what Tucker was bringing up about the pregnant soldiers,
in 1995 when I was stationed in Korea, I was up on DMZ, and it was called Area 1.
And in Area 1, before
females got shipped up there,
they had to take a pregnancy test. Because why?
You could not be sent into Area 1 with a pregnancy
test because we were the tip of the spear.
You were in
a deployed zone.
Now, guess what would happen?
Sometimes, you know, little boy soldiers and little
girl soldiers, they do little things, you know.
And the next thing you know, you get a pregnant female soldier.
But you know what the Army would not allow us to do?
We couldn't re-deploy that soldier back.
Even though now that she's pregnant, she's non-deployable.
She cannot wear a gas mask because that can affect her.
So she has to stay up in Area 1 for X amount of time.
And then I think in the fifth or sixth month, then you could.
What would the Chinese do in that situation?
The Chinese, I don't think, deal with that.
Do they even have female soldiers?
I think they do have female soldiers, but I don't think they're in their frontline troops.
Yeah, I think they're much more bigoted, I think the left would call them.
Well, as a matter of fact, I read an article recent where the Chinese were talking about
they need to have non-feminization training for males yeah yeah
yeah the masculinity training i mean they are looking at what is happening in in the west and
they're saying we don't want that yeah you know what that you know the advantage they have over
us is actually the biggest detriment that their people suffer is the authoritarianism absolutely
it's an advantage for—
To a point.
To a point, right.
I had a conversation with an anarchist friend of mine years ago where I said that it is much more efficient in many ways,
an authoritarian regime, because they snap their fingers and they impose their will where we deal with bureaucracy.
Granted, it's a despicable way to live full of atrocities.
But you know, and you and I were talking about this before we came on air.
This is the downfall of an authoritarian regime.
It restrains and restricts creativity.
Yep.
And we saw that, you know, that was one of the things about our military as opposed to the Soviet model style is that our young troops could make a decision.
Our young troops were trained.
When you think about, you know, all of the wars, you know,
it's a sergeant here, it's a corporal there that is able to do something,
whereby when you have that authoritative system,
and that was the big problem we had in Afghanistan in training their army,
was that even if they were in a firefight with the Taliban,
they wouldn't take an action.
And I said, well, what are you doing?
Well, I have to wait for the call from my commander to do something.
They're shooting at you, okay?
Take an action.
And that was something that they had to learn,
but they grew up under that Soviet mentality.
That's happening now.
It is happening now.
So an authoritarian regime like what you see taking place here,
where it's telling you what you can wear, what you see taking place here what is telling you what you can wear what you can eat what you can think what you can drive
it may say again what free does not equal freedom i i've hired people and uh i'll tell you the story
i'll give you a story from a buddy of mine he started a company he was doing social media
management he made some posts on the internet looking for some you know people to help me run
these these social media websites for clients must Must have a college degree. Well, the people with college
degrees have salary requirements, so he hired them. He said that his phone would be ringing
off the hook from people with problems. Hey, I got a problem. They posted this. Hey, I got a
problem. The company wants this. What do I do? What do I do? What do I do? Eventually said,
if you can't do the job, then I need to find someone else. So he fires them. Puts another
post up.
Needs somebody who knows social media can run marketing.
Must have a college degree.
What happens?
Same thing.
Phone call after phone call after phone call.
Well, now he's out of money.
He spent a bunch of money training these people.
He wasn't getting output.
So he just said, looking for people who know social media, 10 bucks an hour.
He gets a couple people who had moved from middle America
to California to find their dream in acting. And he says, he says, here's the job, go for it.
Not a single phone call. Now he's worried. Oh, they, something must be going wrong because
they're not telling me anything. He comes back, everything. Okay. It's all good boss.
And he was like, no problems, no problems. Well, there was this one thing from one of
these restaurants, but we took care of it.
And so what he said was,
these young people that moved from the middle of the country to California
of their own volition with no college,
with no education,
took the initiative.
It wasn't the college degree.
It was that they knew
they were confident in themselves
to figure out and solve this problem.
Whereas the people who went to college
were the people who did what they were told
by their parents.
And now they're, you know, 24 with no experience in the real world and they're panicking because
they don't know how to solve these problems and they're asking you to solve it for them why
the kids who went to college would always go to their professor or their teacher and say
what do i do now yeah and so what i see happening in this country is a lot of that from college
people who are indoctrinated into saying tell me what to do but it's not even the college level
it's happening down in high schools and middle
schools. And this is one of the things I don't like about this standardized testing,
because what standardized testing is doing is creating robotic thinking. You know,
we have to teach you to be able to pass a test. We're not teaching you to have critical thinking
skills, to be an independent thinker.
And then, of course, you need to go to college. And if we make college free, then everyone goes to college. And then what happens to the productivity of people? That's exactly what
happens. One of the things that I would always talk about when I was in the military, I want a
person, I want a soldier that's a fire and forget weapon system. That's what you're talking about. It's a fire and forget weapon system.
So it's the same as when you take that pistol or that rifle and you pull the trigger.
As long as you have aimed it in the right place, the bullet's going to hit the target.
And so that's the type of people that we should be trying to develop are fire and forget weapon system individuals that understand critical thinking, that understand independent thought, and we're rewarding them for being independent thinkers.
But what progressivism, socialism, statism, communism, Marxism, whatever you want to call
it, what it is creating is a collective groupthink.
You know, when I came in here, you had Star Trek, The Next Generation.
Love it.
Star Trek, The Next Generation.
Remember the Borg?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
What was the Borg? The Borg was a collective body. No individuality whatsoever generation. Remember the Borg? Oh, yeah. Okay, what was the Borg?
The Borg was a collective body.
No individuality whatsoever.
What did the Borg say?
Resistance is futile.
You will assimilate.
No, no, your technology and your culture will be assimilated.
That's it.
Resistance is futile.
And that's exactly what we see happening, young people, is that you have this collective mentality and mindset that does not want you to be a fire and forget weapons system.
It wants you to be part of a cancel culture.
It wants you to be part of a social justice warrior clan or whatever.
You've got to be able to go out and think and do and be able to survive on your own.
Instead of sitting around for the authoritarians to say that we're going to give you some free health care.
We're going to give you some free college education.
What's fire and forget?
That's like you shoot and you just accept it's done.
It's exactly what he said.
Hiring someone that you tell them here's your task and purpose and they got it.
They don't come back.
No feedback.
They don't come back and keep bugging you.
You ever read the thing Message to Garcia?
It's a little short pamphlet ever read the theme Message to Garcia?
It's a little short pamphlet.
Read the little Message to Garcia.
There was a gentleman by the name, the gentleman in the military that was chosen to deliver a message to a Cuban fighter named Garcia.
Where's Garcia?
You just got to find him.
What does Garcia look like?
You'll figure it out.
And the guy took the message and
he found Garcia. That's what we want. And you know what I've experienced when I've hired college
grads? I've been told, you have to tell me what to do. No joke, no joke. I hired someone once
and they were like, what do I... I hired them for a specific job, administrative role. And then I
remember one day they came to me and said, I don't know how to do this. What am I supposed to do?
And I was like, if I knew how to do it, I would not have hired you to do it.
So listen, you've got all the time in the world.
Figure it out.
Reasonably, I expect you to figure it out quickly.
But I understand this.
Like, you go to school for certain things.
I understand you can learn.
This specific program was not something you learned in college.
But you can spend the day figuring out the software.
They couldn't do it.
Yeah.
They just said, just tell me how to do it.
I don't know how to do it either.
And that's why, you know, back when I was growing up, the old folks down south,
they used to say, that boy got a whole lot of book learning.
He ain't got no common sense.
And that's what they were talking about.
The difference between knowledge and wisdom.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And so if there's a threat that I see for us as a country,
is getting back to that sense of rugged individualism and getting back to that sense of I can and not sitting around and waiting for someone to tell me what to do.
Because that collective mentality will always destroy.
I feel like we need like an emergency to whip people into that frenzy of do it.
That's why y'all are here. Yeah. That's why y'all are here. And that's what y' it. Well, that's why y'all are here.
That's why y'all are here, and that's what y'all are doing.
That's what y'all are professing.
That's why I was – look, I am so humble that you guys would ask me to come up and tag on.
We're humble that you've got to come back.
Look, this is awesome because, again, this is that Logan's Run moment
when you find the old guy out there in the sanctuary and you bring him back to the young city.
And they impart all of this wisdom.
I want to start a new political movement.
Party, whatever.
I don't care about party politics, but I want to involve the brightest minds, do a popular win.
It's just a popularity contest at this point.
Make Tim president.
I'll be the vice president.
Come help us, advise us.
I don't want to do
it but i feel like it has to happen you guys can make me secretary of defense let's do it yes
i know some people we could bring on never going to be a president or a politician i don't maybe
we don't need a president it's just a new a better system but this is the movement that you all
created because you are a bright and shiny light like it says in the bible in matthew chapter 5
you're the shining city that sits upon a hill.
You're that light that sits on the lamp
stand that you cannot put a cover over.
And you guys have got to continue
to get this message out here.
Because that's my concern. Remember what I said?
There was once upon a time when I could sit down with my
parents and watch the Grammys.
I can't do that.
There is no way that I... My daughters are
27 and 24. There is no way I I – my daughters are 27 and 24.
There is no way I would have sat with my daughters. That would have been really awkward.
It's just totally awkward.
Watching that performance from Party B.
Totally awkward.
I can't sit down and watch.
I don't even – some of these Super Bowl halftime shows, I don't watch it with them.
Yeah, I couldn't watch it alone.
Well, so here's the –
That was hard to watch.
The Grammys is a really good issue to bring up in that our culture is completely fragmented and divided you know you're you're here saying this
is the message we got the message out and i and i think about some of the things that we've talked
about in terms of the armed forces and especially in terms of the transgender issue and i mean those
are extremely divisive topics where you you even challenge some of these orthodoxies on the left
and they get violent there are certain things sure where we orthodoxies on the left, and they get violent.
There are certain things, sure, where we've seen people on the right.
But you know why they get violent?
No answer?
That's right.
Yeah.
My dad used to say, a hit dog will holler.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's the, when people can't find a logical course of action,
they become angry. Right.
But if you're giving it the spurs and it has
a place to go, it's not going to scream.
It's just going to go. But my concern is,
when you look to the Grammys, when you look to the establishment,
the major marketing companies, the social
media companies, they're the
borg. They're the ones who are saying
assimilate or else.
And many of these people that we
used to see on YouTube, we did a members-only
segment the other day about this, the anti-SJWs, we called them, some of them have just capitulated and given in.
And now they won't necessarily agree with everything from the woke establishment, but they're certainly no longer critical of the establishment.
They've shifted gears, and now they go for soft targets because they're scared.
They're scared the machine will come for them, will destroy them.
If we don't have people who are willing to stand up and be on the front line.
There are more of us than there are of them.
And I truly believe that.
And one thing that my mom taught me was that a man must stand for something or else he'll fall for anything. principles, and values, you know, you can never acquiesce, compromise, appease, or negotiate enough with the far left, with the woke council culture.
There's nothing that you can give to them which will ever satiate their appetite
for more control and more power.
So at some point in time, you're going to have to make a stand.
At some point in time, you're going to have to say enough.
I mean, Pepe Le Pew?
Speedy Gonzalez?
Joe Biden is more –
Dr. Stefan Molyneux?
I don't get it.
No, no.
Joe Biden is a bigger abuser than Pepe Le Pew was.
You can see the videos of Joe Biden grabbing the women and sniffing them.
Tara Reid?
I mean, that's what's still on the table.
And these stories were buried.
And Pepe Le Pew is the offensive thing. But Cardi B is not. tar read i mean that's what and still on the table and these stories were buried and pepe lepew is
the offensive thing but cardi b is not listen listen pepe lepew was prancing around saying
mon cheri or whatever yeah i learned a little french from pepe no no but look if you want to
criticize old art or old cultural tropes i got no problem with that there are a lot of things from
the 20s we don't we don't, 30s, 40s, 50s.
That's fine by me.
But don't come out with this Cardi B stuff, which, again, I also honestly don't care about.
I won't watch it.
You want to do that?
You can do it.
I'll be somewhere else.
But listen, how are you going to show that and then claim Pepe Le Pew is the more, you know, the bad thing?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
Well, you know what I think it's going to come from when you look at comedians out there
like Jerry Seinfeld and others that are saying that this has gone too far.
I mean, Mel Brooks and the movie Blazing Saddles.
You can show Blazing Saddles.
I love that was the first R-rated movie I was allowed to watch.
I wasn't allowed to watch any.
I mean, just.
But my dad let me watch that one.
Yeah.
Because it was so good.
It was just hilarious.
Just what a good.
I mean, how long until Quentin Tarantino gets banned?
I mean, come on.
That dude uses racial slurs every chance he gets.
It's in his movies.
It's in our context.
It depends on if he bows down to the guards of the left.
I don't think he will.
Well.
I don't like that.
But maybe a lot of them do.
A lot of them do.
But think about it.
Sarah Silverman has come out and said, this is too much.
Well, she got canceled.
Bill Maher.
Bill Maher has come out. And you start listening to some of the things that he's saying.
You know, it's going too far.
I like Bill Maher.
I think he's got Trump derangement syndrome and he spent he's too wrapped up in.
Let me stop there.
It's the blue pill and the red pill.
People think red pill means you're Republican.
It doesn't.
It means you've recognized the narrative from the media is often complete BS. Bill Maher still believes too much of it, but it's like he's in that blue pilled room looking out the window and kind of seeing the freedom and recognizing the problem,
but he doesn't break through. It takes him a long time. And eventually he will come around because,
again, there is no Trump boogeyman out there. And the further and further they get away from the Trump boogeyman, all of a sudden they're going to reach out and see this ain't working.
Well, they're trying to do Tucker now.
Brian Stelter.
Oh, yeah.
He's like, Tucker is the new Trump.
Yeah.
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We got this from the Civic Nationalist.
He says, Lieutenant Colonel Allen, thank you for your service to your country and continuing to serve your country from two para PTE to the Yanks. Your enemy of your
country is never going to stop. What are you going to do to stop it? Well, you know, without a doubt,
you're going to continue to fight them on this ideological battlefield. And I think that being
on a show like this and bringing out these thoughts, perspectives, and insights, everything that I have in my head to impart that wisdom,
so that you can empower people to be able to fight in their own respective spaces and in
their communities and what have you. So it's all about leading by example. And I think if
folks can see the courage that I display to stand up to the left, then they will be inspired to be
courageous as well. We have one, just a general compliment.
Raymond Field says, you made my night by having one of my favorite people on.
I love Alan West.
Thank you very much.
There you go.
And then we have Tyler Bachman.
Thank you, TimCast IRL crew.
Your show helped keep my mind off of a recent breakup.
This is my new favorite podcast.
Well, if you really do like it, smash the like button, share it, all that good stuff.
Really appreciate it.
Keegan devlin says
thank you for this guest after last night's show last uh after last night's show this is the hero
we need look man i i genuinely respect rucka for coming on because uh for those that don't know
a lot of people weren't weren't thrilled with that show didn't like it didn't want to hear
what he had to say but we have to have hard conversations a lot of people really like you
uh alan west and and your ideas and opinions,
so they definitely are here for it.
But I think it's very important
to listen to people you don't like.
And I do it often.
I pull up progressives and people I disagree with.
I follow them on Twitter.
I try to make sure I understand what they're thinking
because sometimes they have good ideas.
And it's important to find that commonality
if we're going to build a better future as Americans.
It's also important to understand where we disagree so i understand their arguments accurately i think a
lot of people on the right like me because i'm trying to be honest and honestly represent people
of all different stripes and that means i follow a bunch of progressives i follow a bunch of
conservatives and i think we gotta we gotta you know have those conversations well i will tell
folks um if if i could recommend several books to, you've got to read Saul Alinsky's
Rules for Radicals. Definitely. You have got to read Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto. You've got
to read Frederick Basiat's The Law. And you've got to read Alexis de Tocqueville's Democracy in
America. So I would say read those four books because you've got to understand who you are,
what you believe in. You've got to understand the other side, who they are and what they believe in.
That's right. Joshua Brewer says, could you ask Colonel West in what era he
thinks the Democrats were the worst? Civil War, New Deal, Jim Crow and segregation, or this new
form of destruction, which is all three of the others combined? I think it's the new era that
has started since Lyndon Baines Johnson and the Great Society programs. Because what you have
seen happen when even though I was born in a blacks-only hospital,
almost 77% of black kids had mommy and daddy in the home.
Today it's only 24%.
So I think that this postmodern liberalism, progressivism, socialism of the Democrat Party is far worse.
Is it accurate to refer to you as Colonel or Lieutenant Colonel West?
You can call me Colonel as long as there's not a full colonel around they'll take offense
but yeah you can just call me colonel chairman is that does that sound weird that's funny you
know chairman i'm not you know servant is the best one husband is the best one father is the
best one and grandpa come may oh congratulations there you go nice congratulations
yeah erica bomb with just uh wow this is a really uh amazing compliment tim you filled rogan's
youtube void this guest is legit and i'm so happy to see mr west here right now clap clap much
respect thank you i mean people really love alan west wow holy s it's colonel west god bless you
sir but on the fence with enlisting
in the National Guard as E4 with my degree. However, now Biden. Thoughts, advice?
Well, it depends on what state that you're in, because first and foremost, you're going to be
serving that state. And so, you know, regardless of who's in the White House, serving your country
is a great thing. You know, when I was in the military, I did eight years under Bill Clinton.
Was it easy?
Absolutely not.
But I was still serving my country.
And that's the most important thing.
And the great thing about our men and women that serve,
they don't take an oath to a political party.
They don't take an oath to a person.
They took an oath to the Constitution of the United States of America.
And on 31 July 1982, I said,
I, Alan Bernard West,
will support and defend the Constitution
of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that I take this obligation freely without any purpose of evasion or mental reservation, so help me God.
The great thing about that oath, my dad took that oath as a soldier in World War II.
My older brother took that oath as a Marine who served in Vietnam.
I took that oath and my nephew took that oath. And now he's a Lieutenant Colonel
in the United States Army. So there is nothing greater than saying those words and meaning it
and serving this great nation. And that's what I fear because even police have a similar
oath to defend the Constitution. Too many people don't really mean it.
That worries me.
If we ever get to the point as a nation where we're not raising up the next generation of
men and women who sincerely want to serve this country, who sincerely, as Abraham Lincoln
said, not too far away from here at Gettysburg, are willing to make the last full measure
of devotion so that we can give
them the increased amount of devotion. If we ever get to the point where we're not raising that next
generation, then I'm worried about America. But I still see the young man such as that one right
there. What do you think about the Grand Commander, Supreme Commander, Commander-in-Chief
being left up to a popularity contest? I am very concerned because once upon a time,
you could not be the president
of the United States of America if you had not said those words that I said and served in uniform.
As a matter of fact, back in the mid to late 1970s, I think it was close to 80%, 75 to 80%
of the people that serve in the House and Senate has served in the uniform. Now that number is like 18 percent.
And if you think that there's a difference, there is a difference.
Because there's something about willing to lay your life down for something,
and then you get the opportunity, like I did, to go and serve the country and still defend and honor that oath.
But you do it in a suit and tie.
You do it in one of those institutions that you swore to defend.
We've got to get back to that. We've got to get back to citizen legislatures and servants.
Have you ever watched or read Starship Troopers?
Of course. Casper Van Dien.
There you go. Service guarantees citizenship.
Service guarantees citizenship.
It's interesting that they call that idea fascistic. This idea that you would earn your
right to vote and participate in civics by agreeing to serve your society, I don't think is fascistic at all.
I don't think it's fascistic at all, and I don't think it's a far-fetched theme.
I think that when you look at really – you want to talk about the one percenters?
It's the people that have served this country in uniform.
Less than one percent, I think it's like maybe 0.6% have done a full 20-year
career to the United States of America that are alive today.
That's your real 1%.
And I would just challenge any young man and young woman to be a part of that real elite
group of people.
I just see these powerful interests manipulating those good people.
You know, I have, like I mentioned, I lived just off of Fort Eustis.
I had a lot of friends who – my brother, obviously, and my sister married in.
I was in Fort Carson.
I met a lot of really awesome people, brave people.
I've met a lot of humble people, particularly in Newport News who tell me they don't consider it like – a lot of people are like, you're a hero for serving.
And they're like, oh, come on.
It's a job.
I understand. They don't consider it like, you know, a lot of people like you're a hero for serving and they're like, oh, come on. You know, it's a job. I'm right.
I understand.
But they're humble.
They're regular people and they are willing to take greater risks. And, you know, especially those who fight in combat.
But then I see this big machine, this political elite machine of people who are millionaires who don't serve, who don't care, and they manipulate the good men and women in uniform. And that's the thing, Ian, is that if we want to see a difference in our country, there has to be a difference in us as the voting electorate so that we don't see it as a
popularity contest. We are looking for servants. We're looking for leaders. We're looking for the
person that we believe would lay down their life for this country. All right, let's read some more.
We got Urban Lagoon says, Hey, Tim, been a fan since forever. Love Alan West. Also, I served
four years in the army. also from Northeast Ohio, Ian.
Rust Belt flyovers for the win.
Can I get a shout out for my first skate edit, Bad Hair Days, and it's D-A-Z-E, on my channel?
You got it, buddy.
All right, we got this.
Joe A says, I wonder how Colonel West views the purge of radicals in the military that was initiated by Pelosi.
That is horrible.
I am so concerned i am so concerned
about this because we are instituting the policy of political officers in our military we're putting
commissars in our military and so when we start to have people that are talking about purging and
looking through social media accounts of men and women uniform but only for conservative sites right
that's cancel culture you're politicizing our military.
And that is a
very dangerous path to go down because
our military serves our Constitution. They
serve this country. They don't serve a political
party. And I don't want to see us to
have some type of Soviet-style
military. Well, that's
what I worry about. That's
what they're trying to implement. In some of these stories,
they said that people who had posted images of the Gadsden flag on Facebook were getting pulled from D.C.
There is a chaplain at Fort Hood, Texas, who on his own personal Facebook account posted that he did not agree with the gender dysphoria of transgenders openly serving in the military.
He was brought up in investigation.
Wow.
On his own personal.
Now, he's a chaplain.
Now, that's his freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and what have you.
And now they're investigating the chaplain.
So I'm very concerned about the politicization of our military.
I think they want to create a monoculture.
Of course they do.
They want to get rid of anyone who challenges their orthodoxy.
It's the Borg.
Right.
Resistance is futile.
That's what they want you to believe, that resistance is futile and you will assimilate.
But we don't have to.
So long as we keep having these conversations.
And we will. We got a chat here from Christopher McHatton says Texas resident and conservative. Thank you, Lieutenant Colonel West for your service to the country. How can I get involved in state politics, particularly ousting Clay Jenkins from his Dallas County judge position?
Hey, I'm all about that because I live in Dallas County, too. He says, I want to get involved in the campaign against him, but don't know how. Okay, I will tell you to please go to the Republican Party of Texas website. And one of the things you can immediately do is to go to the
drop down tab for legislative priorities and start getting involved in our legislative priorities,
but also the Dallas County Republican Party. Let's start looking at our local level elections
that will happen on May the 1st. City Council, school board, county clerk, county commission,
those are very important. Clay Jenkins is not up in this election cycle, but in two years he will be.
And we need to get it rid of Clay Jenkins.
You want to talk about a despotic ruler in Dallas County?
Clay Jenkins is an example.
Alexander Olson says, I propose the new name for SJW, social justice or cancel culture,
be hate machine cult culture cultist all it does is deconstruct
demoralize and demonize and destroy the result is division deprivation despair and death down
with the hate machine cult i agree i do i'm all about individual freedoms liberty respect and
that includes people of all different backgrounds i think people deserve equality under the law
but i just think it's the authoritarianism like i i like i i like a lot of true social justice only need be called justice
just justice you don't have to you don't have to qualify justice right and just make sure that it
is equally administered all across the board they use this they say climate justice, social justice, housing justice. And really, it's just a manipulation to make you think you're fighting the good fight.
The economic crisis of 2008 came because of housing justice.
When Jimmy Carter in 1978 created the Commercial Reinvestment Act, which basically said everyone has a right to own a home and government got involved in the private mortgage industry.
30 years later, you had that economic meltdown.
So prime mortgages, all of that stuff.
In reference to the guns, the gun conversation, Nick Seamus says, make NICs available to the
public.
That's the NICS background check.
Does that make sense to you?
What do you think?
People could use it and then if they want to do a private transfer, they could access it?
As long as there's some second check. Just the same as when you go to buy a firearm,
there's always a second check of that 4473. And one of the problems that I think that we have
out there is a lack of review of that NICS system. The shooter down in Sutherland Springs, Texas,
who went in and shot the church up there,
First Baptist of Sutherland Springs,
he should not have been able to purchase a firearm.
He was a felon.
He was disorderly discharged from the United States Air Force.
But yet he did not properly answer on his 4473.
He was not caught.
And he was able to purchase a weapon.
So it is not us, the legal law abiding system citizens.
It's the system out there that we have in place that needs to be corrected and fixed.
Yeah.
G Perez says, don't always agree, but great show to Lieutenant Colonel West, retired deep strike and ABN troop here.
God bless.
Deep Strike.
What do you think about the loss of Judeo-Christian ideals in the U.S.?
I think that this is a very big concern.
That's why H.R. 5 is very threatening to that very first liberty that you have.
There's a reason why the founding fathers put the freedom of religion and the free exercise
thereof as your very first right in your Bill of Rights, because they saw what happened
in England when the head of state made himself your Bill of Rights, because they saw what happened in England
when the head of state made himself the head of religion, head of church. And that's what Thomas
Jefferson talked about in that letter to the Danbury Baptist Convention about separation of
church and state. It was not to have so much of that authoritarian power concentrated in one person
that said that here are the laws and here is religion as well. He wanted to make sure that they stay separated. So it is so important that the religion of the left does not supersede our
Judeo-Christian faith heritage. You know, I grew up Catholic for a few years, and then we went to
public school, kind of lost a lot of that. But I know a bit, I knew enough that when I looked up
things like Blackstone's formulation, I understood the root being the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
And if there's but one righteous person, it's interesting to me because we talked about this.
I think it was with who do we talk about this?
It was one of our Catholic guests.
Seamus.
No, it wasn't.
It might have been Seamus or Drew.
It may have been both.
Actually, this idea that even though many liberals don't understand this, like I'm talking about 90s and 2000s liberals, they like to say like Bill Maher is a good example. atheist, I think it's important to realize that people, they often don't understand this.
I know this because I've actually looked into what are one of the ideals that we hold as a liberal society, Blackstone's formulation, innocent until proven guilty, the right to a trial by jury of your peers, things like that.
It is rooted very much so in these values.
Ten commandments.
What we've basically done is we've come from've, we've come from an age where we
had a bunch of bad ideas, but some good ideas. We kept those good ideas, got rid of some of those
bad ideas. And every generation we've been keeping the good ideas. Now it feels like we're entering
this period where we're starting to build up bad ideas and get rid of the good ideas.
And that to me is worrying.
And, and it even talks about that in the Bible when you will call bad good and you will call good bad.
And I think that we're entering into that phase.
And, you know, when you hear people say that there is no objective truth, I kind of disagree with you.
I mean, two plus two does equal four.
Well, they're saying it's five now.
You saw that, right?
And math is not racist.
You've seen them say it too.
Oh, I know.
I know.
That's the most insane thing.
But I don't want that person to build a bridge what they're doing is they've actually argued two plus two sometimes
equals five and then they add a bunch of qualifiers that aren't a part of the equation well that's
common core math well so one of the things they've said is what if it's 2.9 plus 2.9 it's like well
then that's a different equation now that's 5.8. Exactly. And you can round it up to six.
I mean, if you want a whole number.
They're trying to argue that there could be hidden decimals and that if you're thinking
critically, the answer could be different.
But the problem is you're giving a straightforward, you know, I would tell this to people.
Look, there's a window in front of me.
What happens if I take this rock and I throw it at the window?
Window's going to break.
Very likely the window's going to break.
We can recognize maybe sometimes it doesn't. But come on. You throw a rock at a window. When it's going to break. Very likely the window's going to break. We can recognize maybe
sometimes it doesn't, but come on. You throw a rock at a window,
window breaks. Maybe it's bulletproof.
Again, that comes back to what the old folks
used to say down south. That boy got a lot
of book learning. He ain't got no common sense.
I make the argument that 1 plus 1 equals 2,
but in base 2 mathematics
and binary, 1 plus 1 equals
1, 0, because there's only two decimals.
There's a 0 and a 1 in binary. And that's fine. There are no twos. You would basically say 1 plus 1 equals 1, 0, because there's only two decimals. There's a 0 and a 1 in binary.
And that's fine.
There are no twos.
You would basically say 1 plus 1 in binary and then ask them for the answer.
Right.
You would say.
Well, if you don't, if you just ask the question, what's 1 plus 1, and you don't tell them what
base math they're in, it could be 1, 0.
It could be 2.
But it's the same quantity.
Right.
So here's.
It looks, they're looking at it in a different way.
The issue is they're literally arguing that you have two apples and two apples.
You put them together and also an apple appears out of nowhere.
That argument's nonsense.
They're arguing that language defines our ideas and they're trying to deconstruct math.
That's true, though.
Well, the language does define ideas because if you and I are looking at a six from here, I'm going to say it's a nine.
You're going to say it's a six.
But the idea is we can call it one or we can call it
blarb it represents the same value simply because language may be different doesn't change the fact
that there's a certain value and they're trying to argue that there could be hidden values and
equations that aren't a part of the equation but i don't want i don't want to rehash there are four
people in this room that's a good point there are four lights uh you know that reference yeah there
are four lights no next generation okay reference yeah there are four lights no
next generation okay this picard was captured by the cardassians and they're torturing him
oh man demanding really you test he's a trekkie he's all the way yeah so they were demanding
he's he's torturing him there are four lights and he goes how many lights are there and he says
there are four no there are five and picard refuses to say like there are four lights it's
like 1984 yeah they were trying to force him to do it. And we live in 1984.
Definitely.
All right, we got Student of History says,
With all due respect to both of you sizing each other up on 2A,
I must ask, where do y'all stand scale from 1 to Abrams MBT?
Me personally, I read the shall not be infringed part and go,
yep, seems legit.
Although I also recognize the well-regulated militia.
I cannot fit an Abrams battle tank in my garage.
I would love to, but I cannot fit it.
And plus, it's a crew serve.
And right now, I have an empty nest.
So it's only my wife and myself.
And I don't think she could drive it.
She definitely couldn't be the gunner.
Can you legally own it?
No.
You don't think so?
No, I don't think so. Now, if you're a museum and if you have something, now, yes, you could purchase something like a tank or what have you.
And then there's some still restrictions on what you could do.
Because there's some people here locally I know that have a museum.
They have M60 tanks.
There's a guy who drives around not too far from here with a World War II Jeep with a full-auto 50 BMG on it.
And he doesn't keep it armed, doesn't keep ammo with him or anything, but he lets people come up and check it out and stuff like that.
And I'm sure he's got a special permit for it.
There's an interesting argument here in that during the revolutionary era when they were coming up with these ideas, people owned private warships.
Yeah, privateers.
Exactly, exactly.
Privateers.
So, I mean, they understood that concept. People had these things yeah what's the difference today well uh i don't know
i don't i don't know i don't know if we you know you can legally own a tank i'm trying to think
you know can can a person you know have a little patrol boat i guess they probably could. You can legally own a tank.
My understanding is you just can't have an operational artillery,
but you can have guns mounted on it and things like that.
And they're.
Yeah.
You can't,
you can't go and load it up with any sabot rounds.
Okay.
You can't have one 20 millimeter sabot round,
but yeah,
you could have.
Yeah,
I know.
Let me tell you 30 years ago,
30 years ago,
right now,
operation does shield does a storm.
And let me tell you, 30 years ago, 30 years ago right now, Operation Desert Shield, Desert Storm. And let me tell you something.
There is nothing prettier than seeing an M1A1 Abrams battle tank take out a T-72 at like a mile away.
Wow.
I mean, it is just a beautiful sight.
That's physics, man.
Isaac Newton made the British Empire take over the world because of physics.
People absolutely love you, man.
I mean, we got West.
The, the, the hurricane says possibly the best episode ever.
And yes, I'm considering Alex and Michael in this decision.
Oh, Michael.
Oh, he's going to be upset now.
No, probably not.
And then Joey Ward says that Tim best interview I've ever seen.
And I listen every day.
Well, you know, we get, we, we were graced with the presence honor to be here. I mean, we're grateful that you're here as well.
All right, here we go. DJ Madero says to Lieutenant Colonel West from Bend, Oregon,
quote, there are two sides to every issue. One side is right and the other
side is wrong, but the middle is always evil. Ayn Rand, quote,
P.S. Navy veteran, my grandfather was a U.S. Marine on Wake Island
in World War II. The world wonders.
Well, you know, one of the things, and it's funny, I mean, Lydia and I were discussing this.
In the Bible, in Revelation, it says, you're either hot or you're cold.
If you're lukewarm, I'll spew you from my mouth.
But also, my dad taught me this.
My dad was such an insightful man.
He said, son, the only thing in the middle of the road is roadkill.
And that's why I always talk.
Well, you're talking to me right now because I'm the guy on the fence they always complain about. You of the road is roadkill and that's why you're talking to me
right now because i'm the guy on the fence they always complain about you you're gonna be roadkill
maybe make a decision but i i think a lot of people want a call well i'll tell you this though
a lot of people are like tim's on the fence and the reality is i'm not really on the fence on
issues of freedom liberty and you're constitutionalist if you tell me you're a constitutionalist you're
not in the middle of the road right there are certain issues I am definitely in the middle of the road.
You know what I mean?
They call me the milquetoast fence sitter as a joke.
But I think that's more to do with often I'm trying to explore ideas and not push my own on other people.
And I respect you so much for that.
And that's one of the things that, you know, I like to come on the shows where we can have that intellectual discourse in exchange. Because, again, you only get stronger if you swim against the current.
Right.
Otherwise, you're just loafing on an inner tube going downstream.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it's easy to go.
I'm a scuba diver.
It's easy to go scuba diving, do drift diving.
You don't have to kick.
You don't have to do anything.
Let the carrot just carry you.
It's fun, though, right?
It's fun.
Because you don't have to exert any energy, but you don get any stronger yeah all right we got lka zat warudo
says alan i am a native texan millennial conservative woman and attorney how can i get
more involved in public policy in texas and help keep our state from going insane if i was in the
military i would not want a job i'm not physically ready for well once again uh you have some great
organizations there you got texas public Foundation, conservative, you know, center right or group.
And again, follow us at the Republican Party of Texas. Go to our legislative priorities because
we are in our 87th legislative session, which will end at the end of May and drop down the
digital playbook that we have created for our eight priorities and look and see how you can
contact your state house member, state senator, and get engaged in that process.
And, you know, I always tell young millennials in Texas that William Barrett Travis, the man who commanded the Alamo for 13 days, was only 26 years of age.
Yeah.
People don't realize, you know, Thomas Jefferson, wasn't he like 26 or whatever?
Young man.
Wrote the Declaration of Independence.
Yeah. See, that's what this show is doing. People don't realize, you know, Thomas Jefferson, wasn't he like 26 or whatever? Young man. Wrote the Declaration of Independence. Incredible.
Yeah.
See, that's what this show is doing.
This show is making sure that we have that next generation of Travises and Jeffersons and others.
And I'm going to restate what I said like the other day, but we got to have that generation of people who are willing to get on a boat for three months, sailing, you know, with the wind, then crashing on the shore of some foreign land just with nothing but trees and then saying, got to get started and just build from nothing.
And that's a fire and forget weapon system.
Yeah.
That's the person that's not going to land and say, what do I do?
Who's going to feed me?
You better figure it out.
Seek or swim, buddy.
That's America.
That's rugged individualism.
Also to write a constitution.
If it's wrong, it's wrong.
But think about it.
That's it. Yeah. That's the declaration and the cost there's this thing called the manila principles have you heard of them it's
a digital constitution for the internet age it's just six parts of like you know shall not be
infringed yeah and things and uh i don't know i'm off the top of my head i probably should but you
things like that because we need to add to this document for this digital age. People need to realize how brilliant the structure of government in the United States was.
Like, I thought, I remember when I was a kid and I was learning about the branches of government.
And I'm like, so they didn't just want a monarchy and executive.
They said, no, we can't do that because here's what the problem with the executive monarchy, you know, autocracy is.
Okay, well, what about like direct representation?
Ah, no, it's too slow.
It can't.
All right, well, what about like a council of elders
of learned? No, because then they...
How about all three of them?
They all challenge and check each other.
Checks and balances, separation of powers,
core equal branches. So they
took Montesquieu's Spirit
of the Laws. They read it, they studied
it, they understood it, and they perfected it.
But guess what? We don't teach
Spirit of the Law laws in schools.
What's that?
Montesquieu.
That's how we came up with the three branches of government.
Charles Montesquieu.
That's brilliant.
Have you heard of the National Initiative?
Mike Revell was pushing it, a senator from Alaska.
Okay.
And it proposes a fourth branch of government that would be each state would elect someone
to represent them, and these 50 people could come together and write laws and pass them into Congress to the Senate.
But that's the Senate.
But we already have this.
Well, we have one.
It's the representatives, but they're essentially a monopoly on lawmaking.
So it would give people also another opportunity to –
But you still already have it.
You know what you have?
In the Article V Convention of States.
That's right.
I'm telling you, these guys sat down and they thought of every single thing.
And so it is not just we have representation based upon population we have equal representation based upon a state so you
have that with the senate but then also the states have the ability to have impact upon the constitution
by way of article 5 so it's there so we do let's build a website where we could get all these
legislations to come together seamlessly like a
social network for state legislations.
For state legislation or
U.S. legislation? I think for state legislation
so that we could call a constitutional
law. That might be difficult
because you got 50 different states. But I
think that each and every show that you all have
you should do just a quick little 10
minute review of some piece of legislation
that has come out of Washington, D.C.
H.R. 1, H.R. 5, H.R. 8, 127, 130, whatever.
Just pick one and just kind of have a little tutorial.
And how it would affect the states.
We've got to read some more.
Yeah, we do.
All right.
Crackbot says, Tim, I've spent over 10 years deploying in and out of Afghanistan.
In the military, especially in combat environment, even REMFs were were being engaged in fighting we had nurses having to pick up rifles and fight
you can't lower the standards everyone is there to fight and point rem stands for rear echelon
mofos okay that's what that's what it means and you're right what what afghanistan and iraq
what they are there that's asymmetrical warfare.
There is no front line.
And, you know, then the rear area.
I mean, the enemy attacks you everywhere.
And so every single person, because you were saying, well, can we just take them out and put them in some different position?
Every single person has to be ready to fight.
That's one thing that I truly love about the Marine Corps, because the Marine will tell you that every Marine is a rifleman. That's the mentality first. I don't
care if you're a specialist, a lawyer, you're a rifleman. All right, we got one that is an
important question from Dustin Wood. He says, Tim, always admired Colonel West. I'm a member
of the Log Cabinet Republicans of Texas. We were denied being admitted as a member of the Texas
GOP last
year. Can Colonel West say why he doesn't support gay conservative groups joining?
I didn't say that I don't support gay conservative groups joining. That happened before I came on as
the chairman. I came on as the chairman of July 2020. I think the issue is that we have platforms
that talk about traditional marriage, and we want to make sure that any group associated with the
Republican Party of Texas supports the associated with the Republican Party of Texas
supports the platforms of the Republican Party of Texas, because if you don't support the platforms,
then you're undermining what the Republican Party of Texas stands for.
All right.
Diego Rivera says,
The Texas State GOP Party platform stars that a declaration of war from Congress states, maybe,
that a declaration of war from Congress is required before Texas National Guardsmen can be deployed to overseas combat.
I agree, and 31 states have introduced defend the guard legislation.
Chairman West, do you agree?
I agree that we have to defend our guard.
And one of the things, that's Title 10, if I'm correct, when you activate the guard to go and serve in active duty.
As a matter of fact, you had a lot of guardsmen that were serving in Operation Desert Shield, Desert Storm.
Now, what I'm concerned about is the abuse of our Guard and what we see happening in Washington, D.C. right now.
The fact that we cannot put a border on our southern border with Mexico,
but yet we have fence and razor wire around the United States Capitol
and the National Guard patrolling and standing and
manning that as well as making them sleep in, you know, parking garages and eat, you know,
uncooked food and things of this nature. So I am really concerned about the abuse of our National
Guard by this Biden administration. Yeah, me too, man. All right. This one's going to be hard for
me, but I'll try my best. Vince R says former 13B here 13 bravo that's artilleryman would like to know if colonel
west and i may have crossed paths says a3 11 fa lewis 87 89 go devil's brigade 77 fa ca knox 89 91
a15 fa kc 9192 and hsb 320 fa campbell 9294 let me... He put a lot of different duty assignments out there.
Let me just try to encapsulate it.
My first duty station was 1984 to 1987 in Vicenza, Italy
with the Airborne Battalion there.
I came back, went to Fort Sill for Advanced Artillery School.
Then I served in the 1st Infantry Division at Fort Raleigh from 88 to 91.
Got back from Desert Shield, Desert Storm. Met my wife, married her. Then I served in the 1st Infantry Division at Fort Raleigh from 88 to 91.
Got back from Desert Shield, Desert Storm.
Met my wife, married her.
She was a professor at Kansas State University.
Taught Army ROTC at Kansas State from 91 to 95.
Went to Korea, 2nd Infantry Division, 95, 96, 97.
The Army Command and General Staff College, 97 to 99.
Fort Bragg, North Carolina, 99 to 2002. 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force, 2002 to 99. Fort Bragg, North Carolina, 99 to 2002. Second Marine
Expeditionary Force, 2002 to 2004.
Fourth Infantry Division, Fort
Hood, Texas. Dang.
Hopefully that answered the question.
So you got to triangulate
and figure out if we ever served together.
All right, let's see.
Lior Engelstein says, as an individual with
an FFL 07 and
an SOT-02, manufacturer
of NFA items, my ATF
agent's biggest complaint are NFA items.
They want to get rid of the category
because it's too much of a headache for something that
should be an NISCS check.
Alright.
Johnny Smoke says,
did you guys catch the video of Tim C. from
Rage Against the Machine? His belief,
the US is a military coup, and Mark Milley and the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff hold a higher power than the president.
Is that?
No.
I don't know anything about that.
No.
That seems a bit, yeah, a bit out of there.
But if they did, would they admit it?
No.
You're never going to have a military coup in the United States of America.
The United States is a military coup.
Yeah, sure.
Wheels says, Colonel West for president.
Oh, stop.
1979 Army 82AB reporting for duty, sir.
Well, God bless you.
Army strong.
PJ says, Lieutenant Colonel West, Desert Storm M1A1 tanker here.
You're welcome.
Thank you, man.
You guys on the way.
Right on.
Jerome Morrow says, dude, you better record the hell out of tonight's episode because i want to re-listen to it colonel west is talking about
a lot of things i want to actively pursue well we do record it and it'll be up on itunes spotify
and all those other podcast platforms as well as youtube plus we're going to put up segments from
the show tomorrow and we're going to have a members only exclusive segment coming up at
timcast.com about an hour from now or so so we'll just read a few more super chats and we'll move on there
sonny james says colonel i need your opinion recently orthodox jews protested a law that
would remove their exemption from the draft in israel many western countries doing this
what's your opinion we are in the early info wars stage of of World War III as a decorated military man. Let me tell you, I know that that's one of the things I think the Hasidic and Haredi Jews over
there don't have to serve, but who would not want to serve their country, especially in a country
like Israel that's surrounded by enemies that want to destroy you? One of the most emotional things I got to do on my trips to Israel was to go up to
Masada. And Masada was incredible because those Jewish rebels, instead of surrendering to the
Romans and being taken captives and returned back to slavery, they took their lives.
Wow.
What a powerful statement to say that we would rather live free or die.
Rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
Absolutely. And so I would say that to everyone that is there in Israel, when you look at what is happening in Iran, when you look at Syria, when you look at Lebanon,
I would think that every single able-bodied person will want to be able to stand on the ramparts of freedom
and honor the memory of the people of Masada because that's what freedom really means.
I think we need more courage from a lot of people.
We do.
Yeah.
We do.
And again, when you talked about the people that instead of continuing to fight against
the social justice warriors, they want to acquiesce and appease it,
all you're doing is you're just surrendering.
You're going to be on your knees, and you don't want to live that life.
I had a general by the name of Rick Lynch.
He was our assistant division commander when I was in the 4th Infantry Division.
And he said, life is all about how you live your dash.
And the thing that you have to come to understand is that when you pass away from this life,
on your final resting spot, you got to start dating, you got to end date.
And in between is a simple little line, a dash.
And everything about your life has to speak in that little thing called a dash.
And so I would just say, what do you want to be remembered as? A
person that got on their knees and surrendered or a person that stood and fought? Right on.
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You got a social media account or anything?
Well, I do.
You can follow us at the Republican Party of Texas.
You can follow the website, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and everything.
And then also my personal page, which is Allen West Texas, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, the whole nine yards, Twitter.
So, again, it's just a pleasure and honor
to be here with you all.
Thanks so much, Ian.
Thanks so much, Tim.
Thank you so much, Madam Producer Lydia.
You guys can also follow me at iancrossland.net
for all your joy and love.
Alan, I love you, man.
Thanks for coming, dude.
You're too cool.
And you know what?
The funny thing was,
I walked in here in the beginning,
he's like, who are you?
Yes.
Yeah, man.
Blake Slate. Blake Slate. I love it. slate i love it pure i will that's the best baby
yeah well but that was that's kind of it like you know he immediately had 5 000 questions for you
yeah and i was like we got to save it save it i want to know you not your legacy you tell me well
but my legacy is me yeah it's what i leave what i leave but we're gonna we're gonna i think we're
we're gonna talk talk a lot about
military stuff too in the next segment.
So don't forget we got Sour Patch Lids.
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Lieutenant Colonel West for joining us.
Fantastic conversation. Really fun to
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