Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #246 - Residents Describe George Floyd Autonomous Zone As War Torn Hell w/Jack Murphy
Episode Date: March 18, 2021Tim, Ian, and Lydia join friend and fellow YouTuber Jack Murphy to discuss the violent George Floyd autonomous zone, how millennials fail to cope with modern life, the colonization of Mars, the changi...ng American dream, a lack of cultural change, cultural cohesion, and religion. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The Chauvin trial up in Minneapolis is tainted.
Two jurors had to be removed because the city moved to settle with the George Floyd family
for a record sum of $27 million.
They had to bring in all the jurors.
They had to ask them all questions about, did you hear anything about a civil suit?
And a couple people were like, $27 million ain't no joke.
The city basically admitted fault in this scenario. These two jurors
got removed. My understanding is it's not going to be a delay. The defense wants a delay, but
who's going to assume this guy's going to get a fair trial at this point? Now, part of this
settlement was $500,000. It's going to the community currently occupied by extremists at
38th and Chicago. They're calling it an autonomous zone because activists have
erected this giant Black Lives Matter communist fist. They've put a barricades around the area
and residents recently penned an op ed with the Star Tribune. And it is horrifying.
It's not funny. It's it's it's absolutely horrifying. The people who live here are
writing about how cops don't come. A 30 year old volunteer was shot and killed on multiple nights, 30 gunshots, ringing out children, running and hiding
bullets, rattling people's homes and garages. This may be, we've talked about autonomous zones.
We've talked about Antifa and these extremists. This one's apparently been going on for like
nine months and it's being ignored by basically everybody. And I don't necessarily know why.
Now with the Chauvin trial happening, it's starting to get some attention.
And so I read this op-ed. They said revolution by day, de-evolution by night. It's actually rather horrifying what they write about. Some people there got into an argument about a parking
space. So some random person just opens fire into one of the vehicles. Apparently this has been
going on all in the matter of like one week.
There's probably hundreds of gunshots that have rung out people running and hiding people
almost getting hit in their own homes.
That's what's happening right now in Minneapolis.
And why?
Well, because extremists have taken over the area because cops can't get in because cops
don't want to get in because cops have been fired and the city defunded the police.
Now they got to spend millions to bring these officers back. It is, it's a, I guess, a portent of what's to come.
If you defund your police and you allow these people to take over,
you can actually see what the locals are saying.
So we're going to get into all that.
And we are joined today by the one and only Jack Murphy.
What's up, Tim, Ian, Lydia?
Good to be back every other Wednesday.
Jack Murphy, I'm here.
I'm excited.
Let's do it. Glad you're here, Jack. I'm so happy I'm here. I'm excited. Let's do it.
Glad you're here, Jack.
I'm so happy to be here.
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We have a
sorry about your lids. Pressing all the buttons.
If the cameras are moving, I'm here pushing buttons.
Someone's got to push the buttons. Hello, button pusher.
You know, look, we're having a lot of fun.
We're having a laugh.
We are.
Jack's enjoying a nice beverage.
I am. I'm drinking a beer
since that went so well last time.
You're going to shout out
the super. I'm starting off with this
local Harper's Ferry beer. I don't to shout out the super. I'm starting off with this.
It was a local Harper's Ferry beer.
I don't know anything about it,
but I'm drinking it and it tastes very good.
They're amazing.
We're basically doxing ourselves by giving them a shout out,
but they deserve it.
Harper's Ferry, California.
Uh-huh, yes.
The best California micro brew.
I drive from DC to California
every other Wednesday.
Worth it.
It's worth it.
Is there a Harper's Ferry in California?
Somebody somewhere is Googling.
Well, the brewery is not really in Harper's Ferry, but we went up there and we grabbed a bunch of their beers.
And we try to make it up there so often.
And we decided to buy a whole bunch.
And I'm not a big beer drinker, but it's good stuff.
It is good stuff.
It's 6.2 lager, so I'm feeling it.
Is that good?
That's good. It's like 100 cans, I think's good stuff. It is good stuff. It's 6.2 lager, so I'm feeling it. Is that good? That's good.
Oh, wow.
It's like 100 cans, I think, right?
We bought a ridiculous ass.
That would be 98 now.
But check it out.
It's because when we have people over.
How many bottles of beer on the wall?
When we have guests and they're like, I would like a beer, what are we going to do?
Be like, we have Bud Light.
No offense to Budweiser.
No, that beer is amazing.
And if you'd like to send over a pallet and or sponsor the show, we'd be entirely open to that.
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But that's what we got.
It's like a grapefruit blend, isn't it?
This beer is high-powered clips in a can.
This is how I'm seeing it.
So let's go for it, guys.
Come on.
Well, so the reason I wanted to kind of start off a little slow and kind of just be silly and have fun and talk about beer and stuff because this this subject is going to get dark dude this chauvin thing is crazy i don't know how this guy
can get a fair trial but we're going to get into it thank you and before we do go to timcast.com
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on iTunes, Spotify. If you haven't already checked it out, you can get it there. Now we're going to
get dark, and that's why I was like, let's go slow a little bit with this one, because
when I saw this op-ed, this is from March 15th, Star Tribune, near George Floyd Square,
revolution by day, de-evolution by night. I saw this and I'm like, oh, this will be interesting.
You know, they're going to talk about, you know, Antifa. I actually assumed they were going to be,
I thought it was gonna be positive. I thought they were going to be like, these activists have
come and they've helped us and they've brought all this goodness and organization. And then I just got a couple
paragraphs in and it just got so incredibly dark. I'm scared for these people, man. I'm scared for
what's going on. And it's horrifying to me that, you know, they have the like barricade saying
no way, no, no, as in like mentally no justice. And I'm willing to bet there are a lot of well
to do liberal types. They hear about
this stuff, these autonomous zones, and they're like, good for the activists. They don't care
about the locals. They don't care about what they're saying, and they will do nothing to help
these people. This story, I'm not going to read through every little bit of it, but I'll read a
little bit right now to give you an introduction to what's going on. They say, as neighbors of
38th Street and Chicago Avenue, also known as George Floyd Square or the Autonomous Zone, we are witnessing a revolution by day and a devolution by night.
Prayer gatherings canceled, rallies canceled, visitors arriving with flowers in hand only to retreat to their cars when greeted by the sound of gunshots.
Neighbors ducking for cover behind our houses, children in tow.
The spiritual health of our community, the feeling of being connected to something larger
than ourselves is collapsing.
Here's an account of some of the events of the past 10 days on one block adjacent to
George Floyd Square, where police are met by hostile groups when responding to our repeated
911 calls.
March 6th, 545 p.m.
A 30-year-old volunteer is killed in the zone by gunshot.
People in the zone are seen picking up shell casings and throwing them into city garbage,
loading the gunshot victim into a car to drive him to the hospital.
820 p.m.
Neighbors call 911 again as multiple shots ring out.
Children, listen.
March 7th.
Six garages along our alley are hit by gunfire. One with its owner
inside. A car crashes through a fence into a family's backyard. An 18-month-old had been
playing by the fence minutes earlier. 5 p.m. 30 shots hit cars and windows and siding of at least
one house. Narrowly missing residents watching TV. Parents and children out biking and walking
on a sunny day duck behind houses. Children watch bullets kicking up dust in the street. A zone leader visits a bullet riddled
house to comfort the family, while others from the zone are observed picking up shell casings
behind her. March 8th, 2.30 p.m. Multiple shots fired. A man is photographed perched atop Cup
Foods with an assault rifle on a tripod.
Children cry.
Zone medics are offered to visit neighbors and provide mental health support to those being traumatized.
9.50 p.m., 30 shots ring out.
A person complains to a neighbor that the neighbor has parked too close to the person's
car.
A zone occupant with no connection to the other parties fires multiple shots into the neighbor's
car and house.
The neighbor, a military veteran, is in the driver's seat and recognizes an assault rifle
with a 30 round clip.
The shooter walks back into the zone for police squad squads caravan through and meet the
neighbor nearby 1016 p.m.
The second 911 call provides a description of the shooter who remains in the area, appearing
to wait for some target.
Police have just received a call about a teen and adult shot two miles away.
Resources exhausted.
The police do not respond to our call.
The shooter in the zone walks away.
10.45 p.m.
Third 911 call of the night.
As some neighbors are picking up shell casings, people near the first statue in the zone repeatedly yell, get the F out of here.
Then a gun is fired from near the first statue.
Four men come out of the zone to tell neighbors they weren't shooting at you.
The neighbors ask if they are zone security and are told no.
But one man reports he has his gun.
Neighbors ask how to protect themselves and are told the best thing to do is fill the
street corners with garbage containers to block off our streets. There's more. There's more. I'm not going to read through literally
everything. They just talk about 915 p.m. March 12th, 30 shots from inside the zone.
I'll point out a few things I think need to be corrected. I do not believe this. They mention
a person, you know, witness recognizes a third an assault rifle with a 30 round clip. I do not believe there was someone there with like a clip fed M1 Garand that was modified for
full auto or something like that. I think Star Tribune, the people who live in this neighborhood
don't know much about guns. And what they're actually saying is that someone had a rifle
of some sort with a 30 round magazine. I, if it is true, however, that they do understand the context of assault rifle,
meaning select fire rifle,
what they're telling us is that somebody was perched
atop a building in this area
with a fully automatic rifle on a tripod.
Now, I really doubt it was full auto.
This person probably was just thinking
they were going to protect the neighborhood
and they mounted a AR-15 of some sort,
a rifle, semi-automatic, on a tripod with a 30-round magazine.
I don't know why they would need to do that unless the police have been defunded,
extremists have taken over the area, and residents are now cowering in fear.
And you know what's interesting?
They say medics are being provided for those who are being traumatized.
You know, typically when we hear about these antifa zones and trauma, we usually fan it
off like a bunch of weak, pathetic college kids who think hearing a fart is going to
make you, is going to traumatize you.
Or that journalist who fired an AR-15, probably a 5.56, and then got PTSD from doing it.
No, I think these families are absolutely going to be suffering PTSD because it sounds
like they're in a war zone.
Cars crashing through a fence, 30 rounds ringing out at some point, a 30-year-old
being shot and killed. We heard about that story when it happened. The police tried to come and
render aid. They were barred. And then what happens in these autonomous zones, the extremists pick up
the evidence, the shell casings, and they destroy all the evidence. When the security in the, I
believe it was the CHAZas executed those kids for 10
minutes were just unloading round after round hundreds of rounds they reported what did they
do afterwards well the police couldn't get in so they stripped the vehicle of evidence so that
nobody would know who did it and what they did now it's been happening in minneapolis all while we
have this trial going on i don't know how you a, I can't believe they're having this trial for Chauvin in Minneapolis right now.
They need to move him to Bumpkinville, somewhere far away from all of this stuff, all of the press, all of the gunshots, all of the settlement.
And then just let people in different community hear this because there's no way this guy's getting a fair trial.
This is where we're at, man.
I think that's the point, right?
Like, why did they overcharge them in the first place?
Why did they?
Why was the settlement number public?
Aren't settlements usually private?
Isn't that the whole point?
A lot of times is we're going to settle this and not talk about the terms.
I guess it's the city.
So maybe they have to reveal it.
But it seems to me if you're going to settle and put that statement of that number out there, what you're basically saying is we think we're guilty.
And, you know, why settle it it now why did they settle now it was sabotaging the trial
yes absolutely yes uh they sabotage everything is about sabotaging this it seems to me that
they're setting us up for a tinderbox it is a tinderbox it is being stuffed filled with kindling
they are just waiting for the spark.
I don't get how people are calling 911 from inside the zone to police outside the zone.
And it's not being treated as like a hostage situation.
That's what it sounds like.
It's like a federal hostage situation.
And the city is not willing to.
Well, Biden's not going to do anything.
Well, the city itself.
They're the one.
These are the people that actually defunded the police after all the riots, right?
These are one of the jurisdictions that actually did.
They did.
So the elected officials believe that the people that elected them put them into power to make decisions like this to defund the police.
Could you imagine living like that?
Look, man, everybody knows I grew up on the south side of Chicago.
I remember I'd be sleeping and you hear pow, pow, pow in the middle of the night and you just you just you're laying down so what can you do
you know go to the floor if you if you hear it closely but usually it's far away i remember
hearing from a friend of mine i was talking to him on the phone late at night because we were
like gonna go skate or something and then he's like oh dude i hold on a second i yeah there's
a couple people dragging dude they're dragging a body he basically
said what he told me was that he saw two people going through an alley carrying a rolled up
carpet with feet sticking out the back of it even even growing up in a place like this i could not
imagine 30 rots 30 shots ringing out cars crashing through fences dude they're shooting into cars
with people in them they're shooting into people's garages like through the garage now now if you read the police
blotter from washington dc from any given day you're gonna have all of those things on there
that's what i'm saying plus 10 extra murders plus all kinds of over like it's insane and if you read
the police blotters from my neighborhood even where there's like a million dollar houses it
terrifying but this is all within
basically what like 50 yards of the same intersection they said in this op-ed this is
one block that's insane one block so it's it's they call it 38th they're saying 38th 38th in
chicago is the george floyd square so there's probably four adjacent blocks you know going to
one going you know east west north and south or whatever the directions they have it built.
Maybe it's north by northwest or something.
And this is one of those blocks adjacent to the memorial.
We read about that story, man, where the 30 year old volunteer was shot and killed.
But this is just so much like what happened in Seattle.
You'd think the first time this happened, then police would take it seriously.
But I want to add to this.
When will there ever be a federal response to what's going on with these extremists? Because I'm willing to bet, you know,
they mentioned that one of these guys who was shooting had nothing to do with the neighbors
who were arguing. I'm willing to bet we call them the tourists, right? So, you know, since Occupy,
me and several of many journalist friends of mine, we would notice there were always these
similar people we would see at the same events.
We knew their names.
We called them tourists because they would even fly to China.
A couple of them flew to Turkey to engage in protests.
For what reason are you in China protesting?
Okay, there's a lot of things protesting China for sure.
But they were protesting mainland China for like very specific Chinese domestic policy.
And I'm like, what is this?
Who are these people? Why are they doing this? I bring this up not to say that you know i don't know what
that is they're doing how many of these people in the autonomous zone are not from minnesota
how many of them crossed state lines potentially armed and and are committing these crimes burning
man was canceled this year so look if you look at the murder numbers this is happening all over the country murder numbers are back up to their 1990s levels wow 1990s which is coming out of like when dc was
called the most you know the murder capital of the world dc was dc dc was the murder capital of
the world wow in the late 80s and that's when i first moved to dc and that's when i got my first
choice so well thanks dad uh that's when i got my first choice. Well, thanks, Dad. That's when I got my first taste here.
So, you know, on one hand, this really makes me feel sympathy for people that do live with this kind of violence.
And it's not maybe as extreme, but they do live with it.
I mean, we're talking hundreds and hundreds of murders in D.C. with a population of 500,000.
Yeah, that's a lot.
Okay.
Per capita. population of 500 000 yeah that's a lot okay per capita and it was so bad that after the 1968
riots the city gets burned out crack cocaine crime everybody everybody left the city anybody
that could leave the city left the city and anybody that could leave the city that's it
anybody that could the could is the key there. People who are impoverished get trapped in these places and it creates a cycle of poverty,
crime, and violence.
Totally.
And when I was doing real estate development in the 90s, we would go around rehabbing houses.
And I remember specifically, there were always, the houses always had bars on the windows.
Some of the houses had bars on the doors and the windows.
Some of them had bars on the windows on the second floor.
Okay.
But the cake wow the cake is when i
figured out when i had did a house that had bars on the roof hatch on the inside on the second
floor of their townhouse there's a roof hatch to go up into the attic and up into the roof
they had bars inside their house on the second floor roof hatch because they were they had to
pay somebody to come in there and weld it and it's because someone broke into their attic because people had been breaking into homes
through the attics and invading people's houses so that's like a level of violence that people
were accustomed to in the 80s and in the early 90s in dc this sounds familiar on the heels of
what riots breakdown of order people moving, the police stepping back and just allowing
this crime to take over by design in this case.
Let me, this is, this is a war zone, what they're describing.
Yeah.
I've been, I've been in civil conflict.
I've not been in full scale war.
I have not reported from places where you've got, you know, active, you know, belligerent,
militaristic, national, whatever.
But I have been in countries.
I was in Egypt during the revolution.
I was in Ukraine during, you know, a lot of that conflict.
Molotovs were being thrown.
People were getting shot.
Venezuela.
I'll tell you this.
Based on what they're reporting, I felt safe, like, reading this.
And I'll preface this with, I don't know what it's actually like to be there on the ground.
But when I was in Venezuelauela nowhere near as scary if if what they're going through right now with an autonomous zone sounds more deadly than caracas which is the murder capital of the
world now i can only imagine i mean something's got to be done about it this is this is i mean
look there's photos i guess there's a photo of a giant black
lives matter communist fist right in the middle is this what what people can expect when this this
ideological faction continues to gain power and expand all right here's two things that are really
important one black lives matter and antifa should be acting as decentralized cells not trying to
hold a territory like this and using politics and other punctuated
moments to get their agenda across holding territory for them seems like a strategic
failure right because they're just setting up this environment which they can be blamed for
virtually everything right but at the same time it strikes me as being so bad for them such a For them. Such a propaganda failure, right?
That it seems...
If I were designing a circumstance to make Black Lives Matter and Antifa look bad,
I would encourage people to go to this autonomous zone and start shooting things up and start blowing things up.
Or you would encourage them to create the autonomous zone.
Because you know what invariably leads to when cops don't come anymore.
It seems like such a bad idea.
And maybe they're this just this stupid but it seems like such a bad idea that it feels like it's somebody
else doing it it's like an info i mean look they the the fist symbol they use is literally the
communist fist symbol you know so i'm not going to pretend that a lot of these people realize
what it is this like they don't they don't know the core ideology behind a lot of what they're doing.
There are a lot of people who, and this is to be fair and be respectful, support Black Lives Matter because they genuinely believe police go around hunting down black people.
Thousands in a year, right?
And it's not true.
It is the big lie pushed by the media over and over again and the algorithms of big tech
to convince people basically the apocalypse is happening. And it's just not true. Are there problems? Yes. Should cops be held accountable
when they break the law? Absolutely. Should we get an inquiry and investigation whenever someone
dies? The end of police officer? You bet. Whenever someone dies, we should figure out what happened.
But these people have adopted a fringe, violent extremist ideology. And right now, you know what
they're saying?
You hear these articles come out, and they're like,
racist extremists are the biggest threat.
White supremacists are the biggest threat.
Okay, okay, sure, fine.
I don't care if you want to say they're the biggest threat.
By all means, law enforcement, do your job, target the biggest threat.
But can we have a real conversation about how serious this threat is as well?
So I'll say it's not the biggest threat, but it's certainly big threat to whom threat to whom civilians well who who are white supremacists the biggest
threat to oh minorities but we know that that's not actually the white supremacists what do you
mean by saying well the number of murders of black people committed by other black people far exceed
any white supremacy murder.
Can we get a fact check on that?
I'm pretty darn sure about that.
If far exceeds any. So white people are more likely to kill white people.
Black people are more likely to kill black people.
So in these areas, it's particularly interesting when you have white progressive Antifa types going into minority areas and burning down black businesses and contributing to that chaos and this conflict. But I think they're specifically talking about terror and political,
not like random street violence and muggings. Right. So here's the irony of that. It's written
by the white dominant, I'm using their words, white dominant supremacy culture, the white
oppressive structures. The government is saying that the biggest threat
is white supremacists to whom well to the government they're not actually saying terrorism
right but they're not actually talking about who the threat to to minority people they're very
specifically coming at it from a white power structure perspective saying i see white
supremacists are the biggest problem so ironically if minorities
are picking up that as as as a position i don't think that's actually what they're saying i i see
what you're saying they definitely fear the threat from the q people and you know far right groups
storming the capital and stuff but we just had that that atrocity happened with that incel guy
who went to the asian massage par. So this is what I'm saying.
I'm not here to argue they're wrong.
By all means, if the experts come out and say racist extremists and white supremacists
are the biggest threat we face, I say, well, then thank God you guys are on top of this
one.
No joke.
If you guys are actually tracking down the extremists and going to stop the violent criminals
from committing atrocities, then I'm glad you're there because we don't want that to happen.
Okay, great.
Now, do you have any extra police or federal agents that can stop the autonomous zone extremism that's putting people under occupation and making them live in fear and under violence under the boot of these extremists?
Because I don't understand why they can't do that.
I don't understand why they can send out a dozen agents for a garage pole rope for that NASCAR driver because they thought it was racist.
But they can't do anything to stop this?
Because the government doesn't want it in Minneapolis, in Minnesota.
The people don't want it.
The elected officials don't want it.
The city councils are the ones that moved to defund the police.
That entire community is affected, sorry in sorry infected top to bottom apparently with
this mind disease right and the part that you pointed out at the bottom these are the ones who
are writing the op-ed saying people are fleeing and we refuse sure we want our city back sure so
they're coming into close contact with reality now what all this all these people were like oh
yeah black lives matter to fund the police police. I'm all for that.
Who could be against Black Lives Matter?
Well, this is what happens when you've been taken as an unwitting foot soldier in a war where you don't know what the end goal really is or any of the ideology behind what you're doing, what you're saying.
And you just become a pawn.
And now these people are figuring out that they're pawns.
But there's no one in that political apparatus that wants federal agents to come in there and fix this or state troopers to come in there and fix this.
And they've already told their local police not to fix it.
This is what they wanted.
That's true.
So I feel bad for these individuals who are there now coming face to face with these policies.
And you know what?
I'll add on top of this.
First and foremost, anybody who's facing a distressing, war- moment like this, you got my sympathy and I want you to get the
right. If you come to me and you're like, Hey man, I was wrong. Defunding the police was a big
mistake. Please. Can you help us? I will say yes. Yes. So if they're coming out and they're saying
that now, I will also say to all the people who voted for it and still sit back and say,
it's a good thing. Well then you get what you deserve. You vote for it. You want it. Don't,
don't, I'm not going to interfere. I been thinking about this for about 15 minutes during war world war ii i think
20 million soldier deaths 50 million civilian deaths something like that the number was like
two to one in war and that's in like an organized soldier on soldier conflict when you see this
city violence it's the civilian death and destruction that is just goes under the radar
but you know what you know what?
You know what?
I got to say it.
If you don't pay attention to the news, if you do nothing, evil triumphs.
But the problem that...
I agree with you 100%.
You got to dig.
The problem that we have today is the world has become too complex and it's impossible
for an individual to make sense of the world, determine right and wrong, up from down.
It is impossible to
do that today right because we live in a purposefully polluted information space it's
impossible for anybody working yes outside of that space you know so you you expect the journalist to
distill this information and give you an accurate worldview so you can make better better choices
instead what you get now is rage bait garbage ridiculous stories drama con you know articles so-and-so's
fighting with so-and-so or whatever that's what you get yeah here's the latest bigot tucker carlson
is now donald trump saith brian stelter oh we know why he did that because cnn's ratings dropped by
something like 50 some odd percent and then another like 47 in the key demo so they they're
they're they're they're on dire straits they need a new white devil they need a new villain yeah to to report on to keep everyone all going crazy it's not going
to work no one cares about tucker carlson brian no they tried doing marjorie taylor green but
nobody cares about a freshman congresswoman okay well how about tucker he's got the biggest show
on fox news sorry bro people are hitting me up a lot of people hit me up and they're like tim youtube is suppressing my channel right now what's happening as soon as the election
was over they started hitting my channel like no no no no one's suppressing your channel nobody
cares okay during i mean look we did you were on the show on january 6th we had like you know 80,000
people watching 100,000 a million views in the first night of live viewership and then like 800
or 900 000 you know video on demand views and now viewership goes way down because we're coming off
of that political season fortunately for us we're a small podcast with you know small business
things are going well but for cnn oh no they're they're they're getting crushed and it's getting
it's getting brutal to finish that last point, on this complexity of the world, it was once upon a time, I believe, rational to be ignorant of politics.
You're not going to be able to deduce everything.
You're not going to be able to figure it all out and make a vote that's going to count, right?
Because it's never just been decided by one vote.
So there was a little rationality to being ignorant.
But today, it is irrational to be ignorant.
If you are ignorant and you just accept what's given to you over the mainstream media and through the legacy and through our institutions, you will end up fat, sick, chained to a desk, in debt, working for a corporation, wearing a mask, staying at home, putting your kid in quarantine next to you listen to him cry out for you and you'll think that we
live in a world where white supremacy is the biggest problem and that black lives matter
just means we want black people to have a good life that's what happens when you don't pay
attention let's do this you're bringing this stuff up and you know we'll derail a little bit
from the main conversation but i want to show you this tweet. So I saw this earlier and
this guy, Joe Hart tweets translation, how to tell you're a loser. Did you see this tweet?
I retweet, I retweeted it myself.
So this woman, her Twitter handle is cats against humanity says how to tell you're an adult.
You gain 30 pounds overnight. You'd rather sleep than go out. Everything hurts. Comfort comes
before style. You have a favorite spatula.
Everything feels like a chore. College students look like 12-year-olds. You're always annoyed AF.
You know what I thought as soon as I saw that? That you do have a favorite spatula.
No, no, no. You're depressed. Yeah, that lady's depressed. She's depressed. This is not normal.
Is this what people are experiencing? It's so much so that she's experiencing depression and she thinks it's normal because she sees other people experiencing this, that she's like, it's just being a normal adult. No, lady, dude, you are in serious trouble. Okay. Listen, if you're gaining 30 pounds overnight, what are you eating and why aren't you getting physically active? Are you just sitting around and eating garbage food? Sounds like you got a favorite spatula. You'd rather sleep than go out.
Dude, that is a principal sign of depression.
Indeed.
For everybody listening, if you would rather sleep than go out, force yourself to go on a walk.
Now, what does that girl do, though?
She's like some sort of creator, right?
I have no idea.
I think she is.
She's a creator.
I clicked through.
Maybe her brand.
Maybe she monetizes being depressed.
That's messed up.
These commercials like we know life is hard.
Like they'll start off like that.
They're trying to sell you a drug or something like a pharmaceutical.
We know life is hard and it's going to get worse.
Like, let's everyone just accept this premise that life sucks so that we can sell you our product.
Yeah.
Antidepressants.
She says everything hurts.
And I'm like, listen, if you're laying in bed all day, maybe you have bed sores
or you've become soft from being inactive. Comfort comes before style. Yes, you've gained a ton of
weight. This is a painful cycle people fall into. They start, you know, getting out of shape,
gaining weight. Then they start feeling bad about themselves. So instead of going out,
getting active and reversing it they retreat back inside she says
everything feels like a chore that's literally depression now to be fair college students do
look like 12 year olds all right that one i agree with but i don't know are we going to talk about
that again she says you're always annoyed af this is just like it's it's sad millennial depression
so and but but listen here what i'm seeing from this is if she's a creator if she's an influencer and she thinks this resonates with her audience millennials got serious problems it
does so my my girlfriend is a hairstylist and every day in her chair she has an endless stream
of women between 25 and 55 coming into her chair and when you sit down in a hairstylist chair it's
sort of like sitting down at the therapist because you're not making direct eye contact and you can just spill your guts.
And of course, the whole time she's just like, oh, yeah.
And she tells me that the women all say the same thing.
Every single one that comes into her chair talks the same way.
The world sucks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a common theme.
What's the food?
Is it the food?
Sugar?
What's causing that?
It's always sugar.
Sugar.
It's not just always sugar. Well, it's like the the drug it's like more addictive than hair sure okay and i think
in the rat but i think i think we've got cultural problems so like you know looking at the grammys
for instance the ratings went way down i bring this up cultural decay people aren't looking
forward to things anymore there's nothing people like look i think it might be a sugar man i think
that's over that's an oversimplification.
Super simple.
But like, OK, I don't care about sugar.
Everybody is dealing with some crazy cultural problem right now where we've got social media
making people depressed.
They want likes.
They're desperate for it.
But there's no actual community event for them to go out to.
And that's what I think is a big factor here.
Yes.
But what we need to look at is whether or not the rates of anxiety and
depression were this high in February of 2020,
as they are now.
And I would guess that they,
they are.
I think,
I think they are.
Yeah.
I think that depression,
anxiety among females,
especially was as it may be higher now,
but I think it's,
I think,
but it was high before Corona.
I,
I think it's fair to say depression and
anxiety are probably very similar among men and women i think i think it's probably a lot of guys
who won't talk about it i've been my most depressed in life when i was eating crappy
100 i used to eat like oats just but buckets of oats sugar, and just felt like crap.
My eyes would be all puffy.
My skin would get all pale.
And as soon as I cut that stuff out, man, it just life got easier.
I think it's a marketing pitch right now, too.
What's that mean?
You know, like recipes are all like, you depressed, not feeling good.
I'll get you to be here.
Buy my brownie recipe.
Or, you know, more like take this drug.
Join my thing.
Buy my content. buy this shirt is super
nautica right for you buy your comfy pants you know like it's it's a marketing thing but why is
it a marketing thing because it resonates why does it resonate we could go back two weeks talk about
our other discussion which i won't get into now but i do firmly believe that those structural
relationship issues have led to this you you've got a decline. There was an article talking about how young men are becoming, are staying virgins longer and longer and longer.
There's a lot of reasons for this.
But I think when you, and we can talk about all the different correlations in human behavior.
Why millennials?
Why are they so, what's up with the wokeness, right?
Because I did a segment about this a couple years ago. I think one of the big factors
in this, you know, for this
woman, why they're depressed, is a lack of purpose
in life. We used to have purpose.
Do you guys know what blue zones are?
You know what blue zones are? Yeah, parts
around the world where if you live there, you
eat the diet that's indigenous there, and you
get the sunlight and the air. You live
to like 150 years old or whatever.
That may be the issue. Blue zones are areas where people live to be over a hundred and there's a there's
a certain combination of factors they found in all these different places you know one of the
most important things was purpose i remember watching an interview where there's like this
100 year old japanese guy chopping wood and like the woman's like why are you why are you doing
this shouldn't someone else do this and he goes who's going to do it and she's like well there's younger people who can chop the wood he's like no no i you doing this? Shouldn't someone else do this? And he goes, who's going to do it?
And she's like, well, there's younger people who can chop the wood.
He's like, no, no, no, I have to do it.
Otherwise, no one else will, and the people need.
So what happens is they talk about how at retirement,
it's the most common age of death.
When you retire from your job, people just lose purpose.
You take a look at these millennials.
They don't have purpose.
Their purpose is to post a picture of themselves that's fake.
Instagram reality.
That's what they call it.
A fake photo of themselves to try and maximize how many likes they can get.
And it's making people depressed.
It's not just the social media factor that's making people depressed.
It's that they have nothing to do with their lives. So we get one of two things.
You get all the ultra woke people who have filled the void in their hearts with the world
is racist.
You know, oh, we've got to occupy this zone for justice. We've got to go down here and what,
shoot people? Is that what you think is giving you purpose? Well, apparently they have nothing else.
So when that white SUV pulled up in Seattle, they were like, this is my mission. And they
just unload into it. It's because they have nothing to live for. On the other side, what do
you get? Incels. Incels. You get young men who are angsty and angry, who don't go out, who don't go for
walks, who don't exercise, who feel completely defeated, who feel that they're too ugly,
there's something wrong with them, and they'll never succeed. And Jordan Peterson, you know,
there's a reason why what he said resonated with a lot of these young men. Find the heaviest thing
you can carry and carry it. He was basically saying saying get out and do something so you have i see this very much so
not every millennial many of them have filled the void with fake purpose activism and nonsensical
threats to their existence and the other half have just abandoned purpose and just play video
games all day and waste away this is leading to mass depression in my opinion but there's a lot
of other factors too huge amount of factors but you're absolutely right the number one issue is a loss of meaning
and part of that is because we've diminished the value of nationalism surviving for your country
thriving for your country not a thing it's not cool to be a nationalist anymore
popularly i mean even if i i think there could be a uh a global effort towards like the iss or
something or to going to mars we don't have that either yeah there's no there where's like you know
we we land on the moon and it's this big television broadcast look what we're doing we're amazing and
everybody was like look how awesome we are it was competition but we don't we don't even have
cooperation between like, any goals.
There's no goal, okay?
Even if people were like, it's about nationalism.
Okay, well, you can have a cooperative contest, a friendly competition between various nations to help develop the proper composite component, whatever, for getting us a lightweight material, strong, flexible, and finding a way to colonize Mars.
We don't have that.
Space elevators.
We don't have anything like that we have some people who very much like the idea and then we have a dominant
culture of posting fake pictures on the internet posting dumb videos complaining about somebody
for some reason and then what do you get you get cats against humanity saying they're gaining tons
of weight they'd rather go to sleep everything hurts they have a favorite spatula but everything
feels like a chore and they're always annoyed they're depressed okay this is a very complex subject and there's a lot of factors in it this is all by design
eliminating meaning from your life is by design first and i'm not particularly religious but
they've destroyed your relationship with god god gave people meaning he did okay and he well listen listen
religion also gave people community yes they would show up to church they would talk they
would know who was there they would know you know oh i can't wait to tell so and so about you know
this or that it's all gone take away god take away your nation take away your community take away your family hell take away your identity as like
i'm just a dude not anymore not anymore you know what there's no meaning by design
why so that you can have your ego your of self, and everything about you obliterated, smashed into a million billion pieces.
And then you can be whatever they want you to be.
Communist, socialist, anti-racist.
Mostly the same thing, right?
A worker drone, a purchaser.
They want to sell you stuff.
They want to break you down and build you up.
It's not the capitalists.
It's the communists that do that.
Dude, I want the documents in front of you because I agree with you.
We've had James Lindsay was on last week talking about it.
It's like an 80-year-old communist plot, basically.
This has been going on since the 1930s, was it?
Look, I talked to one of the leading Russian, the leading Russian philosopher who helped in the 80s and 90s formulate the way to destroy America. I talked to him
directly and he admits the whole point is to destroy meaning, is to destroy barriers, is to
erase boundaries and barriers that give you identity and give you a place in the world.
If you look out into the universe, it's infinity. Your brain explodes when you're confronted with
infinity. The only way that we can have sanity is if you make barriers and boundaries and identify the universe it's infinity your brain explodes when you're confronted with infinity the only
way that we can have sanity is if you make barriers and boundaries and identify who you
are and have an identity and give yourself meaning all the institutions that gave us meaning gone
corrupted universities churches government nationalism all of it gone it's all gone all
the sources of meaning in our life are gone it's by design and we need to build back
what's the end meaning the end result is people that are too depressed too scared too too anxious
to fight back against anything to be an individual to even know what's right they get turned into
these mindless drone foot soldiers that are like black lives matter right on except they don't
understand what that really means they don't realize that the fist they hold up is actually the communism fist yeah i'm not it's
not even exaggeration that black fist everyone sees it was it was really interesting when i saw
the fist uh popping up everywhere and people were calling the black lives matter fest i never really
thought much about it but i it's the it's the communist fist so one on the rp that's the same
right it signifies so uh for those that aren't familiar, there's something called the, was it the fascists?
Yeah.
It's the bundle of sticks wrapped around with a blade in the middle of some kind of weapon.
Oh.
Fascis or however you pronounce it.
What bundle of sticks was something else?
Fascist.
Yeah.
The root of fascist is a bundle of sticks.
Is that funny?
Isn't a bundle of sticks?
Isn't there a word that we're not allowed to say anymore that also meant a bundle of
sticks?
Because it represents that each individual stick is weak, but together, bound together,
they are a strong and powerful weapon.
The fist signifies literally the same thing.
Each individual finger can be broken, but when you combine them, you get a powerful
fist.
And so this symbol goes back, I think, 100 years to much of the communist revolution stuff we saw in the early 1900s and now black lives matter quite literally
uses the communist fist oh they're communist i don't know if you know that lady it's this fist
uh you can also get a get a our pillow i think on tim look i'm gonna make a real quick shameless
plug here if you're a man and you feel like you don't have any meaning and your community has
been obliterated and you're not allowed to be a nationalist and you've lost touch.
We have an antidote for that.
We're building intentional communities.
This is this is the answer to the future.
Liminal order.
Come check it out.
Liminal.
I think I don't.
I understand what you're saying about nationalism, but I think it's just general community.
Yeah.
Like people who lived in in Texas 30 years ago didn't have the same ideals as those who lived in New York, but
they had a community that gave them purpose.
And then beyond that, there was a shared national identity and specific goals.
If you go back to the 60s, fighting the Cold War was important to basically everybody in
this country.
Today, man, you couldn't find unity to stop China's concentration camps if you tried.
They argue about what the right approach is.
Nobody wants to to get
on board with any any plan and we just kind of sit back and let everything fall apart meanwhile
what are we complaining about oh cardi b and candace owens we're going at it on twitter i
suppose well i think there is an issue there and how the fake media like how the media manipulates
the narrative and you know we'll absolutely go after candace owens for for criticizing what we
saw at the grammys it's interesting that our culture has become cancer.
Our culture has become culture war.
The culture war is our culture.
What we are interested in talking about in mainstream television is shock content and
hating each other.
CNN.
What is CNN's main goal?
What has it been for four years?
Complaining about Donald Trump.
Trump is gone.
Okay, let's try Tucker Carlson.
And it was really funny.
Frank Luntz, the famous pollster, tweeted at Brian Stelter when he tweeted this,
maybe try covering the issues instead of some guy.
And then Brian was like, maybe you should watch the full segment because I...
No, dude, talk about the issues.
I'm not interested in any of these individuals necessarily.
I mean, sure, we can call out bad behavior when it's particularly egregious.
But our culture is nothing now, for the most part, other than here's who I don't like. Meanwhile,
you know what China's culture is? We're expanding into the South China Sea. We're building military
bases on the atolls. We're building fake, we're building artificial islands to hold weapons.
And you know what's really scary? Donald Trump ordered what's called an elephant walk. Well,
I believe it was Trump, it was Trump administration administration where we sent bombers and fighters to Guam and we have them
go along the runway to show how powerful we are.
And did you know that we retreated?
We retreated our forces from Guam when they were supposed to be doing that elephant walk
to show how powerful we are.
We had to retreat.
You know why?
Because China's military capabilities could have wiped out the entire fleet before they
could get off the ground.
Talk about a sign of weakness for the United States.
Now what do we get?
Wokeness in the military.
The chief diversity officer to make sure that everybody is being treated properly.
Gender neutral testing.
And now all of a sudden, we got to get rid of that because the women aren't passing.
Got to have equal outcomes.
Women can't get promoted if they can't pass the physical exam.
Therefore, we got to change the physical exam so they can pass more.
That's what we're worried about in this country bill maher said it and it is an excellent
quote we are a silly silly people china they're as serious as a prison fight that's what he said
i think we we really need a second coming of christ because elon's not getting it done if
elon musk can can engineer our our exposure to mars and build technology? I am not going to Mars.
I know.
It can preserve our species.
He's the engineer that can help us preserve our species.
Going to Mars is going to hell.
But it's not enough.
Like, he can't.
If people don't rally around Elon, we need Jesus.
Like, we need, like, hold on, hold on.
God back in these associations.
Yes, sir.
Mars is not hell.
What do you think the colonists
the early pilgrims and colonists thought about land crash landing i'm being a bit exaggerating
i'm exaggerating what do you think they thought about getting on a boat for three months with a
deep with a one in five chance of dying to land on a shore where there's no food no water no shelter
nothing first of all they believed that there would be food and they believed that they would
be water because they knew they were going to be on earth first of all and they knew how to hunt and where they were living already they
were already fending off the land i am not going to mars you there's nothing you can say to convince
me i don't want you to go to mars but guess what so so you're saying the people who left europe
to come to the new world had the ability to farm and hunt yeah dude so wouldn't the people going
to mars have the ability to use the technology
sent there beforehand
to produce food and water and shelter?
I suppose if there's water and food
and sunlight and air and temperatures.
There's technology.
Comparing Mars to the new world
in the 1500s is insane.
It's not insane.
It's insane.
The people who would be going to Mars
are going to have technological advancements
on their side.
Is there oxygen there?
There will be, yes. It's in the water under the surface.
It's in the ice. Turn Mars
into Earth. You gotta melt the ice.
And then I will go. There's no magnetosphere.
I think they can nuke the poles.
Maybe. Space sounds terrible.
Right. You don't understand.
The people who are getting... I don't understand.
Yeah, these big wooden ships, the technological advancements
that allowed them to actually make it across the Atlantic, thousands of miles.
Yes.
These were very brave people.
No doubt.
Who didn't know what they were going to encounter, and there wasn't going to be food or shelter.
In fact, Thanksgiving, they almost died because they had nothing to eat, and they were saved, right?
So what I'm saying is it is, yeah, substantially harder to be a pioneer to another planet.
I don't think we need to go to Mars.
The alternative hypothesis around Thanksgiving is like look at us show off this abundance of food, by the way.
Before we go to Mars, we're going to be sending supplies and technology so that the people who finally arrive will be able to build large eco-domes with food and supplies that will last them for years
with consistent amounts of supplies coming in.
I understand a lot of people are scared of this
because it's a one-way trip for the most part
and you may die on a red planet.
I'm not saying...
It better be green by the time I get there.
It's not ever going to be green.
Yeah, it could be.
I thought that's what you were just telling me,
that it was going to be green.
You can seed bomb it.
There's no magnetosphere in it.
Whatever Prometheus is. You can seed bomb the. There's no magnetosphere. Whatever Prometheus.
You can seed bomb the ice.
You can't maintain water on the planet because they can't maintain an atmosphere.
I think there is.
It's just a light one.
There's no way to maintain an atmosphere.
It's dissipating.
Are you trying to talk me into it or out of it, bro?
I'm trying to explain to you that we used to be, we used to have people on this planet
who are willing to sacrifice in the name of reaching new heights, of challenging themselves and finding freedom.
And now we have a bunch of people who instead of saying, I'm going to move to the middle of nowhere and build my own building, do what I have to do.
They're saying, I want the government to regulate all of the jobs.
I'm not religious at all.
I'm with you on that, but not on that.
Christ. the jobs i'm not religious at all but i'm with you on that but not on christ i mean i think that
we need this like this belief and i don't know if it's god or what but like this unified belief in
in the universe structure you know that that jesus was one of the guys that was like i'm tapped he
tapped the basis of spirituality is to get outside of yourself whether it's a belief in God and afterlife community service,
helping other people doing charity work,
get out of yourself.
Our culture today is designed around being in yourself,
wallowing in yourself and presenting yourself as the biggest victim that there
is in order to get to the top of the victim standings.
That's the problem with our culture today.
People just need to go play
frisbee we're talking about a lack of self a lack of well not a lack of self it's nothing but the
self we're talking about a lack of purpose meaning community friends goals go outside bring a frisbee
with you to the park and say you know play frisbee you want to just throw a frisbee around maybe hang
out with some people it's actually really fun and and they don't throw a ball back and forth but people need to go outside and actually do something
instead people are recoiling they're retreating they're hiding now i think i'll tell you what i
think one of the biggest problems problems we've got as a as a culture certainly china doesn't
have it there are people in china they're they're calling what China is doing neocolonialism because the
people in China are leaving. They're taking what money they have. They're moving to other countries.
They're emigrating. And now we are seeing large Chinese communities emerging in many other
countries. It's neocolonialism. It's not happening because the Chinese government is ordering people
of the Chinese Communist Party is ordering people to go and take over anything like that. No, no, no, no. It's just people who are in a very crowded country trying to find a better life,
just like we saw with Europe hundreds of years ago. But now there's planes, there's trains,
there's boats, and many of these people have the resources. They find their way to other
countries, have communities, and they grow and they work. And I'll tell you this. The American
dream is alive and well. There's just too many people in this country too egotistical to actually work towards it.
When I worked for American Eagle Airlines, it's American Airlines' regional airline.
There was a group that referred to themselves as the Filipino Mafia.
No joke.
That's what they called themselves.
And it was a large group of Filipino immigrants who were working for the, for the airport, working for the airline. And they all basically worked 14 or 16 hour days every day. There was
one guy, he was like in his fifties. They forced him to take a two week vacation, a two week paid
vacation. And he was freaking out and complaining saying, I refuse. You can't make me do it. And
they said, actually, we legally are required to make you take a two week vacation. He didn't want to do it because a one week vacation is only
40 hours paid when he worked 80 hours a week. And you know why? Because he was he came to this
country. He worked 80 hours a week and every penny went into making his children's lives better.
This is a guy that was in the Philippines and said, I'm going to move to America. I am going to work my skin to the bone, no matter what it takes for that American dream. And his dream
was to work for 10 bucks an hour every single day because he knew it would make his children's
lives better. Where's that at? Where are the people today that are saying I will do anything
I can? A lot of immigrants who come to this country absolutely believe that. And I've watched
it. You look at the people who come from China, the United States,
what do they do? They cram their families into small apartments that are cheap. They work
themselves to the bone. They make money and they give their children a better life. Now we have a
lot of people in this country, a lot of a lot of progressives, mind you. Yeah, obviously, I'm biased
in that regard, who are just demanding the government give to them. Meanwhile, they're the
ones who are claiming they're the party of immigrants.
And it's like, well, why don't you actually take some advice from them and work hard to
succeed?
That's why I look at the Mars thing.
Yeah, I get it.
Mars is difficult.
Mars is scary.
There are a lot of people who want to go to Mars.
I don't know if we need to go to Mars.
It's not necessarily, I think, a solution to our problem.
I think maybe a space station is probably better.
And then maybe finding, you know, a long-term vessel of some sort.
I don't know how we do it.
Our technology is not there yet.
A Martian colony can be fantastic for the development of new technologies that make
everyone's lives better.
And the people who ultimately decide to go there are going to be going on a very dangerous
journey where they will probably die.
The likelihood of death might be like one in five, like it was for those who went from
Europe to the new world.
Granted, we have new technology and we'll have a lot of fail safe.
So maybe it'll actually be a bit less, but boy, will it be lonely.
But these are the people who are saying, hey, man, I'm down to do it.
Now, while we've got all these people signing up for Elon Musk's Mars trip, there was that
Mars one project where it was called and thousands of people like, I want to go to Mars.
I want to go to Mars.
And none of them were healthy enough to actually do it.
Where are the people?
You live in New York City.
You live in Minneapolis.
And you're like, man, this is terrible.
Antifa's taken over the government.
They're getting funding now.
They're shooting people nonstop.
We're all depressed.
Bro, why don't you get up, go outside, start planting some flowers, start planting some
corn?
Why don't you like, you know what?
You know what?
I've been looking at it for a long time.
It's like moving out to the middle of nowhere on purpose to expand and to build something.
Because when I assume that doesn't work, you know what I do?
I don't go.
This is why I hated working for other companies.
You go to the boss and you're like, hey, I see this problem.
And they say, too bad.
I don't care.
I can't.
I can't do that.
I can't sit there and look at a problem that won't be solved.
So I'll say, OK, I'm going to leave and then I'm going to do it on my own.
Because if you don't know how to run this system, I'll figure it out for myself.
Where are those people?
Where are the modern pioneers who are like, I'm going to move to the middle of nowhere,
start a company, and revive this dying town?
Instead, they're in their dying towns complaining to the government to do more to protect their
jobs.
And it's both the left and the right.
I think they exist, but they're drowned out in a sea of noise especially online with when
everyone has their own no anybody journal anybody online who believes that they can do it is doing
it online is the land of the i can'ts what i have found interesting is that our country used to be
a country of i can i can sail across the atlantic and start a new life
i can explore the west coast go to oregon go to the seattle i are watching state i can do that
you mean i can walk there i can walk and if you couldn't you didn't have access to a newspaper
to tell everyone how you couldn't do it you just didn't have access now you got twitter for free
but the problem the problem is is that American spirit, the American dream, if there is actually one
American dream, is I can.
Yeah.
All these other folks right now that we're talking about, these are the I can'ts.
When did the American dream go from working hard to just being handed a million bucks?
1970, when Nixon took us off the gold standard.
No.
Fiat currency.
Okay, come on.
It's when the communists infiltrated American institutions and have pumped us all full of the notion that the government is supposed to give us everything.
When was that?
Starting in the 50s and the 60s, dude.
It used to be.
McCarthy was right.
The American dream.
The American dream actually was upward mobility.
There are certain countries where you're poor.
You'll always be poor because you're not a noble. You're not landed gentry, you're not a king. It's
never going to happen. You come to America and you could flick off the president. You could see the
president walking by and go, hey, president, F you. And they can't do anything about it.
The American dream was that you could be gutter trash and grow up to be a millionaire as long as
you worked hard and figured it out. And that still exists exists the problem is it still happens every day
and at some point millennials especially figured the american dream was i do as i'm told i take
out massive loans i go to college and then i'll be rich it could have been the rockefeller movement
like he monopolized and the education industry and kind of destroyed people's will to i never
went to business school i didn't know how to run a business i don't know how to sign a check till i was 19 years old i didn't write a check
isn't that insane i never wrote a check let me tell you something let me say something yes i
understand what you're saying jack about communism and infiltrating schools and all that stuff and
i've heard a lot about it we know that china has an interest in promoting this because the chinese
accounts on twitter this is what james lindsey was saying they used to they used to mock the
beizua the white left that's their word All of a sudden, they started supporting them,
saying, yeah, America's racist, because they realized it was weakening the country. But I'll
tell you something. In my experience, my anecdotal, my personal worldview, my lived experience,
my lived truth. Your viewpoint? My personal point of view. My family, I always would hear
these stories growing up about how someone my family knew was making six figures because they went to college.
And that's why you have to go to college to get a good job.
And I said, not interested.
And then what I realized later in life was that a lot of these people after World War
II, the boomers, right?
They had high school educations and they were feeding their family, three kids and a wife
just on their high school education.
They made it work.
Granted, they didn't have the same level of technology or comfort as we did.
So, you know, standard of living was particularly different.
But with a high school education alone, I read about how the boomer generation, people
with high school educations, they were managers at companies.
They had jobs.
They weren't making six figures.
They made the false assumption that the money came because of the college degree.
However, if you grew up at a time where you didn't need a college degree to succeed and
feed your family, but you decided to pursue your passion, what was really happening is
that those who are most passionate and driven towards a certain goal decided to go
to college. College was incidental. It's a spurious correlation. The actual correlation is those who
are willing to work hard to attain or achieve some goal and those who are not. What happens
then when your entire society starts telling all the young people college is the key? Take out 40,
50, $60,000 worth of loans you'll never pay back in a lifetime. You end up with a bunch of
angry, indebted serfs, can't find work and think the American dream was stripped from them.
Well, they were lied to for sure by a society that went astray. But these are people who
need to be taught how hard work can give you the American dream. The only problem is the hard work
they worked towards was a trap. They dug themselves into a massive hole,
generated tons of debt because they were
dumb 18-year-olds who didn't know better, and
because I blame the older generation
stripping the value,
extracting what they can, and then we get
financial crisis, chaos, and everything's
falling apart. So forgive me if I'm a millennial
blaming the older generations, but I, look,
we inherited this stuff from you, so
it's not on me. You're a Gen X xer right represent you get a free pass i'm gen x as it gets tim a lot of what
you said is absolutely right the people that made the most of a college degree were going to make
the most of life anyway when they didn't need one though right the point is if society tells you
you don't need to go to college and you go, yeah, but I want to because I really want to study this thing.
Well, it's no surprise that this passionate, driven individual became successful.
But you get a bunch of people who are like, you know, I remember when I was 18 and they're
like, you got to go to school.
And I'm like, for what?
What do you like doing?
I don't know.
Well, how about music?
You play music, I guess.
So what I was going to be an 18 year old going like, oh, and then but but draining tens of
thousands of dollars in debt. that's the stupidest idea.
I was like, I'm not going to do that.
That's dumb.
I don't want to owe anybody money.
I'd rather just sleep on a couch and go skating.
So it worked out for me.
I don't got any debt.
A lot of people thought of that trip.
It still worked out for me because I wanted to.
I wanted to go.
I wanted to study acting.
And it was worth every penny of it.
Not for everybody.
Most people change their majors and end up not getting a job in their field.
You got to want it.
You got to be good at it.
You got to be dedicated to it.
You got to live it, breathe it, focus on it every second of every day.
It is your life.
That is what you are.
I'll tell you what else it did.
And the money is subsidiary.
You want to know what else college did?
You want to know what else it did, Jack?
It took kids out of their communities and sent them to far away lands.
And then all of a sudden their ties to the community were fractured.
So now you had people growing up and they weren't going to the water cooler.
They weren't going to the churches.
Maybe they're not religious.
They weren't going to the community centers.
They weren't engaging in local activism or local journalism or local politics.
They moved away.
Maybe there's a good thing in that, but ultimately it means our community started breaking apart.
And now one of the biggest problems we have is people are replacing their real communities with fake online communities, often with sock puppet accounts.
And they're looking for some kind of gratification from online strangers who have cat avatar profiles or something, or cat anime pictures on their Twitter account.
That's current, but the future is actually using the internet to find real communities 100 it's happening i'm doing it i won't pitch it anymore you guys we
gotta bring people to the real world you that's absolutely 100 tim you're talking about things
that have been in play for decades and decades and decades and decades now yeah i mean it's true
these ideas were seriously implanted in our brains back in the 50s and the 60s, and they've now made their way through the institutions to the point now where we are a sick culture of victims who rank themselves according to how aggrieved they are, not according to how successful or accomplished they are or how realized or actualized that they are.
It's actually a detriment to be successful.
Right, because that's evidence
that you're part
of the white supremacy culture.
Well, that's what they said to me
when I was at Occupy Wall Street
before I got any recognition.
I had all these people saying like,
see, look at you, man.
You know, you dropped out of high school
and like you're a smart guy.
You should be very successful,
but the system doesn't allow it.
You know, you come from a mixed family
and it's very obvious
how it's holding you back. And then all of a sudden i'm featured in time magazine i'm
featured in all these websites and they said then tim pool is white and he was born with a silver
spoon in his mouth moral of the story don't listen to other people in this in this the moral perhaps
and the gist of the story is if you succeed they will accuse you of being privileged and always having been
privileged because the idea of hard work doesn't exist to them exactly because if you succeed
that means that the only reason they're not succeeding because they didn't try
yep and and that is and that's why the asians are going to get crushed by the blacks in this
new culture scenario that's why they're trying to make it look like there's white on Asian violence happening
all over the universe when there really isn't.
This is one of the most offensive.
The real issue is that the Asian immigrants
are making African American indigenous people look bad.
You think that's why the violence is happening?
No.
The violence is what it is.
That guy shot up a bunch of hookers. Basically, sex related.
Okay.
But this idea.
Well, we don't know.
That's true.
Actually, it doesn't matter.
The point is, is that it's not some white supremacist going on a rampage trying to kill a bunch of Asian ladies.
Like, come on.
So what's happening here is that the CRT folks and the African American victim community that wants to be victims, not all of them, the specific community, are saying that we live in an oppressive society that keeps minorities down.
Well, guess what?
All these Asian folks are coming from all over, not just Far East Asia or Southeast Asia or India Asia, but all of those Asia parts.
They're coming to the United States and they're out earning white dudes.
Yeah, this actually surprised me because I didn't realize Filipinos actually have some of the
highest incomes in the United States.
Yeah, dude.
It's the it's it's Indian folks come Asian folks come to United States make more money
than white people.
Why?
Because it's a meritocratic system.
If you're good at something, you get paid for it.
You can be Tim Pool drop out of high school school, not go to college, become a many thousand
there here living in wherever we are.
But the reason that this conflict is going to come between the blacks and Asians is because
the Asians are just proving the thesis of Black Lives Matter false.
It's not a race thing.
It is not going to be black people versus Asian people.
It is going to be woke people versus Asian people.
Sorry, you're right.
Yeah, it's so like Alan West sitting here the other day.
Amen to that.
I'm sorry.
All those comments were meant to say the CRT, social justice, Black Lives Matter folks that are pitching.
They're mostly white.
Fine. All of them are pitching the black victimhood narrative that all black suffering is the result of white systems of oppression, which I heard chanted over and over again on the streets.
But, bro, they're not saying just black people.
They're saying a hierarchy of different races are oppressed by white people.
They used to claim that it was Asian people on top.
Now, after this shooting, they're saying Asians are actually oppressed again.
So it's not about any one race.
It is about manipulative, extremist, dogmatic cultists who will who will use whatever narrative
they have to to gain power.
Sometimes I'll talk about Black Lives Matter, but they'll use the communist fist as their
symbol.
Sometimes they'll blame Asians because you've got that one woman.
I'm not going to say her name, but James Lindsay's been tweeting up a storm about her where she
was like, well, you see, theians who came here chose to come here in the
early you know early american history they weren't forced to do it then after this wave of violence
they say now they're being now she's tweeting they were forced to come here actually it was
indentured servitude blah blah it's like oh okay you never cared about these people you manipulate
these people it doesn't matter if you're Asian, Latino, Hispanic, black,
or whatever. All they want to do is pit one group against the other to gain power. So they're going
to use victimhood. Amen. And they're going to say, these people are oppressing us. And it's funny.
They accused Trump of being the demagogue. They said he was the one who was vilifying different
groups of people. Sure, there were certain instances where Trump said some things like,
you know, he wanted to ban all Muslims.
Donald Trump literally said that he was calling for a ban on Muslims until they can figure things out.
Eventually, what they called the Muslim ban came to include a couple other countries like Venezuela and North Korea.
So it wasn't exclusively a Muslim ban.
Or contain all the Muslim countries.
Right.
It didn't include Saudi Arabia.
Indonesia.
Right.
American Muslims. The point was Donald Trump certainly had his bombastic demagoguery type language, but they are built upon it and have been for a decade.
Trump was a response to it, not the creation of it.
When they kept coming out in the early, you know, to that late 2009, early 2010s, screaming
about white privilege, racism, systemic racism, white people.
And you can see in the in the Lexus Nexus data, the hockey stick of the New York Times
just screaming about white people. And you can see in the in the Lexus Nexus data, the hockey stick of the New York Times just screaming about white privilege. Then you got what they were calling the white
lash, a backlash. But white people were now saying enough of this already. The funny thing is,
we were taught growing up, segregation is wrong. People should be treated equally. It was the dream
of Dr. King that all people would be treated based on the content of their character not the color of their skin and which party is fighting that tooth and nail
the democratic party joe biden's department of education just rescinded a rule that said
racial affinity groups was discriminatory that rule is gone now that was a trump rule trump said
you can't do this you can't separate people at schools based on race. Biden's administration.
Oh, no, no, no.
You can do that again.
Congratulations.
Columbia University just said graduations by race.
That's right.
By race.
Now, what's funny is at the end of the day, you're right.
There's going to be one small group of people over here, the woke, and there's going to be a huge coalition of diversity over here opposing woke and in fact the opposing
racial justice people will be more diverse than the group saying that they're you know the woke
folks and the irony is it's not going to be african americans in the middle of that it may
end up it may end up being black trans women or whatever but but truly it's all of this is is suburban white yes liberal women that's right this entire thing
is about suburban white liberal women their guilt their their interest in destroying the patriarchy
they're lying supinely on the ground, begging for acceptance and forgiveness,
and they're willing to throw their entire country away just so that they won't be called a racist
when they haven't been one, they aren't one, and they've just taken this identity on for themselves.
I did an interview with Arthur Millick, the head of the Center for the American Way of Life in
Washington to see a Claremont East operation. And he pointed out that even
the ancient texts, the classics, they talk about the demise of a society is when it's run on the
whim and fancy of single women. That is what we have today. The entire nation, all of our
political discourse, all this woke crap, all this everything is based on trying to appease the this power of single
white liberal women and you know what's funny half of guys are just doing what those women
tell them of course because what do they want they want the women right so they're just saying
so they'll do whatever yeah these boys need some chad immunity i got chad immunity for days if you
want to quarantine a vaccine i got it for you chad immunity look it up yeah i think
that there look i think that's one of the issues i think we're facing a ton of a ton of problems
we've been facing for a long time and one of the things i bring up when was the last time a
christmas song was written right it's a typical question uh something i bring up quite a bit
all i want for christmas is you by mariah carey i guess in the 90s we listen to
music from the 50s on christmas it's a classic yeah but at a certain point like that was new
i wrote one in 2007 in america youtube listen in america so they wrote us they wrote these songs
they wrote songs they wrote jingle bell rock and it was new and everyone loved it we all danced
and sang together every year since then we play the same songs over and over and over again no one writing anything new no one creating no one developing american culture
it's become stagnant reboot remakes we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna reboot spider-man for
the fifth time we're gonna we're gonna reboot this comic book this movie we're gonna remake
groundhog day we're gonna remake whatever else they They keep doing it. I saw that. Where's the new?
Where's the new?
Strongly opposed to remaking Groundhog Day.
Where's the new stuff?
It's this show.
So listen, listen, man.
It's this show.
It is.
It's stuff like this.
We're the new, dude.
This is it.
For sure.
Okay.
Yes.
You want to talk about the woke, all the problems they're bringing.
I got to stop and say at a certain point, we had a great, I know a lot of people didn't like Rucka, but he asked a good question.
Okay, you're complaining about wokeness.
What are you offering in exchange?
Yeah, exactly.
And I said, classical liberalism.
And he said, okay, we had a conversation from there, but I'm going to stop right there and
go back to the culture question, not the political question.
If we complain about they're making woke Captain America, right?
The new Captain America is an LGBTQ activists.
They're saying, I don't care.
If you like that, then you can buy the comic.
You know, when I see all these people saying like, oh, you know, it's dumb that they're
changing all these things and we're angry by it.
My response is make new characters for these communities.
Don't give them hand-me-downs.
However, if Marvel wants to make Captain America an LGBTQ activist, that's fine.
I'm happy for the people who like that character.
It's none of my business. I just won't buy it. Because I'm not saying I refuse to buy it America an LGBTQ activist. That's fine. I'm happy for the people who like that character. It's none of my business.
I just won't buy it.
Because I'm not saying I refuse to buy it because I'm mad.
No, I just won't buy it because I probably don't care all that much about reading that story.
But I'll tell you this.
Where are you to make your own comic?
Where are you to make your own new TV show or video game?
How many people sit back and complain,
why aren't they making the games that I like and the movies I like? I like i don't know why aren't you making them so we can sit here and complain
about the woke and i think it's merited but at a certain point we have to complain about ourselves
for not doing enough we're not making our own things our own culture amen and i'll shout out
daily wire and we've been talking about doing new cultural stuff too we're a small company we have
that many people but we are actively working and trying to figure out how to grow and expand and
create new brands make new new uh, new fiction, new nonfiction.
We're talking about doing this paranormal podcast, trying to figure it out. It's very difficult
because I'm just one person. We've got a small handful of people. But at a certain point,
you got to make stuff. You got to build your own house. You got to move and start your own farm.
You got to start your own data server farm. You got to start your own web hosting companies.
It's happening. We see what Gap is doing. But at a certain point, you got to start your own data server farm. You got to start your own web hosting companies. It's happening.
You know, we see what Gap is doing.
But at a certain point, you got to stop complaining that other people don't agree with you and won't give you what you want.
While I can absolutely agree it is a problem for our society when big tech is censoring
people because they have a monopoly on the political discourse space.
At a certain point, you must take control and do the work yourself because
no one is coming to save you. Most all people are consumers.
They're not even built to be creators. They're not interested in being creators.
They don't want to be artists. They're too busy. They're working. They're trying to survive.
They come home. They want to consume. It's okay.
It's normal. So when somebody who's a consumer complains that they're not be given the things
that they want, that's a valid complaint. The people you should be complaining to talking to
point of fingers at are people who are creators and get them moving in the right direction.
Yeah. Hold on. Hold on a second. Yes, but what about the people who sit around playing video games all day?
What about the people who are like, you know, I lost my job or I haven't worked since COVID?
Did you write a book?
You start drawing pictures?
That's what I'm saying.
They're consumers.
They're consumers.
Consumers.
It's okay to be a consumer.
Most people are consumers.
Most people are not creators.
I think that what you're doing is potentially like applying the solution that you see is as possible in front of you and demanding it of everybody else.
I don't know that that's necessarily possible.
And so what how do consumers contribute to society to merit consuming products made by other people?
Do they have jobs?
Of course.
So they're making something.
Well, they're cogs in a big thing.
They're cogs in the machine. They're pushing papers. You want to do in spreadsheets. they're making something. Well, they're cogs in a big thing. They're cogs in a machine.
They're pushing papers.
They're doing spreadsheets.
They're flipping burgers.
You talk about decades of conditioning, stripping away the American spirit.
I will not tolerate, personally, someone saying, well, I'm just someone who works a menial job so I can come and play video games.
I'm like, nah.
Let's talk about conditioning.
Who told you to think that way?
How come no one ever said,
why don't you draw a picture?
Start with a stick, man.
Maybe in a few months
it'll be drawn anime or something.
Why don't you make something?
You can take little rocks
and you can make little macaroni art
and sell it on the street.
You can take a guitar,
learn three chords,
play several top 40 songs,
maybe four chords,
and then you can busk in the street
and make money on your own.
Amen.
Amen to all that.
It is conditioning to take away people's independence and ability to create and be independent thinkers.
They wanted you in the machine.
They wanted the bell ringing in grade school to teach you how to work in a factory.
Now you're an adult.
Now the system is in decay.
What are you going to do?
You can also be a consumer and a creator in different phases.
Like I've gone through heavy creation phases where that was all I did.
And then I go back into my consumer phase for like two years and then back into creation phase for three months.
And then so it maybe should be a change your brain space.
Everyone should be producing at a slightly higher rate than they are consuming.
That that that is extremely important for expansion for growth
survival and it doesn't need to be as greta thunberg said this fairy tale of endless economic
growth there can be endless economic growth because we have digital and virtual spaces
you can create things that are abstract we have that nft you know non-fungible tokens now people
are making art that exists in the blockchain there's a lot of things that you can do that won't create something physical you can write a song you
can sing a song you can record that song you create information you can do you can work on math you can
develop new ideas and new technologies and new methodologies or at the very least
you can stop being a consumer in these cities and maybe go out to the middle of nowhere save up a
little bit of money to buy a small plot of land, literally the middle of nowhere, dig your own well, build
your own house.
Because at what point, I don't know when it happened, but people started saying the
government owes me.
Even conservatives say it.
Even conservatives.
The government owes me.
The government should force these companies, you know, not to do certain things.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
I agree with regulation. But I with that. I agree with regulation.
But I also recognize at a certain point, you have to be responsible for what you truly want,
and you can't expect someone to do it for you. I certainly think there are regulations,
and they're like, you know, I'm a fan of border control, ending these free trade agreements.
But I also think if it doesn't come to you, then you have to decide when you are going to take the
reins and do the work to make it come to you.
That might mean running for office.
That might mean having a peaceful protest.
I'm so into it, dude.
Let's run for office.
I'm not doing that.
Get out of here.
You want to run for office?
Go ahead.
You do it.
I might have to.
Oh, yeah.
Run for Congress.
No, I'd run for president.
People need to take responsibility for their lives, man.
Man, you're not going to hear any pushback from me on that. Personal responsibility,
accountability, auto-regulation, independent thinking, making your own way, owning your own
S. Yes, that is the way. This is the way. No question about it. If you want to talk about
somebody busking, there's a difference between hustling
and creating, that's what I'm trying to distinction. I'm trying to make creating Tim,
you're a creator. I'm a creator. We're creating, we're creating art, creating journalism. We're
creating media. This is it. You want to know what's next. Where is it? What's the replacement?
This is literally it. I've been on the show with a million people watching the show this is literally it and it's not only just like the underground of it this is the like one step down
from mass media level in the united states there but there is there is a breaking point we're
experiencing where this might be the new big thing yet to us is there ever going to be a big
network show you know like when you would watch walter cronkite or
whatever no there's not because there was three channels then exactly that's it so what's happening
is as our ability to to source information fractures american unified culture will cease
to exist amen amen there's huge chapters in my book democrats are deplorable all about this very
element right here about uh liberating the means of communication. I use
Marxist language to describe what happened. We've liberated the means of communication.
Instead of one person talking to many, we have many talking to many. And in doing so,
we've created and injected a number of new narratives, national narratives, personal
narratives. And now we have no cohesion because Walter Cronkite used to sit
there and tell us all how to feel. That's right. Do you think religion is necessary?
Yes. I'm not even religious, but yes, we live in a Christian society.
That's true. And we mentioned this the other day. I think I mentioned it to Alan West that
people like Bill Maher, he doesn't realize that his values are actually rooted in Judeo-Christian values.
Correct.
And he thinks he's a secular atheist and his morals aren't defined by the Bible.
And it's like, bro, they are.
They are.
They literally are.
You don't understand that the Fifth Amendment, you know what the Fifth Amendment is?
The right to a trial by jury, a speedy trial, the right to remain silent, all that stuff.
That comes partly from Blackstone's formulation when he said it is better that 10 guilty persons
escape than one innocent person suffer.
Benjamin Franklin said it's better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent person
suffer.
That came from the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, that God said, if there is but one righteous
person, I will not destroy the city.
These ideas have existed for a very, very long time.
There are certain cultures that don't share that notion. Take a look at China's history and their religion. They're an authoritarian
communist sort of communist nation. They don't have the same ideas about innocent until proven
guilty. You can take a look at some. I am not saying that every country that has ever practiced
this religion has held these values. Certainly there have been authoritarian nations that have been Christian.
I'm saying that when we look to these values, they have a root in Judeo-Christian values.
100%.
I mean, Hammurabi.
Ever heard of this?
Hammurabi's code, right?
They had a whole entire moral and legal framework for their entire civilization.
That's got nothing to do with what we got going on.
Yeah.
Nothing.
So Bill Maher sitting there in his jacuzzi with his hookers and his cocaine and his weed, as he admits, thinks that he's an atheist who just came up with these ideas of these values that somehow they're universal. They're not universal.
First of all, entire civilizations have lived and flourished and failed eventually without these values and without these norms.
And here we are, the most successful culture in the world ever based on Christian values.
It's like we're due for a new religion.
Well, we have it.
It's called critical race theory.
It's called critical theory.
No, but a good one.
Sure.
Here's what Bill's what you know bill maher thinks he looks to backwards
and confused and poorly translated versions of religion and then says see it's a bad thing
and i use bill maher as an example because i was just complimenting the guy right there are a lot
of people who look to religion and say here are all these bad things and it's like okay well what
about all the good things i'm not a religious person i i am not theistic in any sense of you
know these religious texts or anything anything like that anything like that but i certainly think
you can find good ideas in every single religious text okay obviously not every single i'm just
being you know hyperbolic but for the most part you'll look at these religions and you will find
there's probably something good in them maybe not enough enough. Maybe it's 51% bad, 49% good.
Okay, well then take the good stuff
and get rid of the bad stuff.
That's what we've done here in the United States.
There was a lot of really bad stuff.
Well, we started to get rid of all that bad stuff
and keep all the good stuff.
That turns into sections of the Bill of Rights.
First of all, the first one,
the right to practice your religion.
And then you have the right to, you know,
trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty.
And that is rooted.
That's just a fact.
It's rooted in Judeo-Christian values in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
I was like reading about this and I was actually really just impressed when I read about, I started researching Blackstone's formulation.
Why did he come up with the idea and the history of it?
That's right.
Religion.
So it's not absolute
i don't think you need it but that's why i'm saying when you asked if religion was necessary
i kind of went i don't know about religion we're finding out right now no no no but you don't need
religion you need shared a shared moral framework and what many what many that that's what it is
no a religion is like i have faith in the lord or a lot of them's a cult, I have faith in the Lord. Or a lot of them is a cult. Like, I have faith in this guy that was telling me about the Lord.
Right.
You need a shared moral framework.
Okay.
Religion is.
Okay.
Where does your moral framework come from?
In the United States, our moral framework is Judeo-Christian.
Taoism.
Not every single nation that has been successful has a Judeo-Christian moral framework, but
they do share a moral framework.
Some moral frameworks are really, really awful, and they're really nasty based on our standards. But that's the point I'm saying.
Bill Maher's moral framework is rooted in an American Judeo-Christian moral framework.
This country is not, in my opinion, founded to be expressly a Christian nation, but it was
overwhelmingly Christian people who created it it's christian
in its form and function yes but not what i mean is there's no state religion there's not right
they avoided making a state religion by baking the religion into the structure of the government
well i i think what you're basically saying is they took the moral framework of the religion and
and structured it into government but it left out a lot of the things they didn't like.
Yeah, they're like, hey, you can be here and not be Christian. But by the way, all of our laws, our rules, our regulations, our morals, the structure,
how you're going to live your life, it's Christian.
Are the evolution of a Judeo-Christian moral framework.
Now you have secular individuals who don't believe in God and don't believe in the Bible
and don't realize their moral framework is rooted in an American culture that was very
religious.
And look, man, look, Tim, I want to go back to what you were saying before.
We don't have, we want to go to Mars.
Let's give us meaning.
Oh, we need a, we need the cold war.
We need meaning.
What you're looking for is something bigger than yourself.
That's right.
A mission, not just a mission because missions end.
Where do you think God came from?
Aside from actually being the creator of the universe, if that's what you believe, it is the need for a persistent source of meaning outside of yourself that will not be seasonal.
That does not go away once the Cold War is over.
That does not go away once we integrate with the aliens. That does not go away once we integrate with the aliens.
That does not go away when Manifest Destiny is completed.
You need a consistent and eternal sense of meaning that is outside of yourself.
So you don't get lost in your own brain and turn into a freaking victim and sit around and say, where's my stuff?
I don't think missions have to end.
Like missionaries, that's their life, is the mission.
And the Enterprise, the USS Enterprise, that was a persistent mission.
But it could come to an end.
Could.
But it's not supposed to.
Because the infinite, infinite universe created by God that they're exploring?
Yes.
Oh, bro, they're not exploring the universe.
They're exploring one quadrant of the galaxy.
Thank you for...
I walked into the
tim compound today and what's playing star trek next generation hold on hold on a minute
the episode that was playing the hour before was the there are four lights tim i want to make it
there are four lights here but i don't know in response to all this nonsense right now that
you've been spewing i'm four lighting it right now four lights you're the guy that would say there are four lights for those that don't know
this winston listen listen let's talk about shared shared culture when i was a little kid i remember
sitting on my couch my dad was watching star trek star trek the next generation i understood very
little of it there's a reason why i love that show and it's because of the philosophy and the
storytelling and let me explain to all of you who don't understand the hol. And let me explain to all of you who don't understand. And the
holodeck. Let me explain to all of you who don't
understand what it means when you say there are four lights.
Captain Jean-Luc Picard
was captured
by enemies and he was being
tortured mercilessly.
And the man torturing him
had four lights above him.
And he asked Captain Picard, how many
lights are there? And Picard said,
there are four. And then he presses a button activating a torture device and says, you're
mistaken. There are five lights. And no matter how hard he tried to force Captain Picard to say
something that was not true, Picard would not do it. I know a lot of people are like, Star Trek's
a silly thing. It's a sci-fi show. No, you know what I learned growing up seeing stories like that? There will never be a moment in my
life where you come to me and tell me to say something that is not true. And I will say it.
I will look you in the eyes and say there are four lights when you come to me with your stupid
fake news garbage and you say we will ban you. We will destroy you. We will take your income.
We will take your life. Say there are five lights or else I'll look you in the eyes and say there are four lights.
That's what Star Trek's about.
It seems like that show was brilliant.
And that was a show made by Americans in the 90s, actually 1989.
And that was the value being instilled in people at that time.
And I grew up with shows like that.
Today, they have dogmatic,
cult-like garbage they are instilling into people. And they are ruining the classically liberal,
defiant, individualistic content that taught us to be good people, to respect one another.
Now they're telling us the opposite. Now colleges are segregating people based on race.
When Star Trek was the show that they say had the first interracial kiss, apparently that may be a myth, but it did.
And it was important.
And there was this really famous story I read about the woman who played Captain Uhura on Star Trek when she was speaking with Dr. King.
I don't know if the story is true.
I read it somewhere.
And maybe it was Dr. King.
Maybe I'm getting the story way wrong.
And she didn't want to be on the show.
And he said, you are fourth in command to a Federation starship.
You do not quit
that show think about the message being sent to little kids about what you represent amazing that
was star trek where are we today it's almost as if we've been occupied by a virus that seeks our
own destruction the borg a hundred percent we're our nation's infected with a virus that seeks to
kill the host the struggle session session. This whole thing.
This is a struggle session.
Picard was going through a struggle session.
This feels like a struggle session sometimes.
Since the jump.
Hold on.
At the end of the episode, Picard was asked, was told by the guy torturing him.
He said, you can choose to live in pain and suffering, or you can be comfortable.
Comfortable clothes and all
the women you're at your heart's content and he says what must i do and he say tell me how many
lights there are and picard is looking and that's when the other guards come in to release picard
and give him back to the federation at the end of the episode he's talking to the counselor and he
says i would have said anything and i actually believed there were five lights yeah nobody's
perfect because torture does that to you but but it's it's amazing i wonder what inspired these
writers when they write these brilliant things that's 1984 dude that's like a scene right out
of 1984 right absolutely yeah i think about shows like you know futurama have you ever seen jurassic
bark that's what it was called and called. And it was an episode about,
you know, Fry and his dog gets fossilized and he decides whether or not he's going to bring his
dog back. Or there was also the episode about Fry's brother who kept stealing his ideas and
his moves. Talk about amazing writing and amazing show. So the character Fry talks about how he has
a seven leaf clover and it gave him all the luck in the world. But his brother Yancey kept stealing everything from him.
He then learns because the Futurama is about a guy who travels a thousand years in the future
that a guy named Philip J. Fry, who looks just like his brother, was taking all his dreams,
going to Mars, being in a rock band. And he had a seven leaf clover at the end of the episode when
he goes to rob the grave of what he thinks is his
brother who stole everything he learns that it was actually his nephew that his brother named
after him because his brother loved him what happened to shows like that this amazing writing
where you're watching this dumb comedy show and you end up crying afterwards with that episode
and the episode jurassic bark what happened to shows like star trek even deep space nine was
also amazing
profound writing now we
have Transformers
Godzilla vs. you know
King Kong I get it we
probably had movies like
this in the past yeah
but I'm saying it's
cultural decay I mean
even scrubs would get
you teary every once in
a while John C.
Reilly dude wait wait
no McGinley McGinley
John C.
Reilly big difference
McGinley's difference
Reilly's also good it's
flooded the industry's
flooded so they have
to like do these beacons of light in the sense of like let's do a reboot that everyone's gonna put
their eyes on in 1989 it was like 5 12 channels you know one production company that or like you
know small segment of production companies that could pick what got seen i love marvel movies
but there is not a single marvel movie and probably i don't know
maybe i'm wrong but on top of my head i don't think i can name a movie in the past five years
that gives me the same sense of like awe and emotion that i get from like i think the episode
of star trek was called the make of a man when data the android was on trial and they're trying
to determine whether or not he was a sentient living being with full rights and they talk about what makes a person a person amazing this is amazing roddenberry was was he still his wife also
was or she was in the show uh roddenberry was he still involved with the writing of
in the next generation i'm pretty sure look next generation was high quality i remember watching it
but like i watched all the episodes what are we leaving for our kids right so that so i'm gonna
throw it to the grammys now and actually say to
candace owens she's right i look at that story about star trek and captain ahura a black woman
who was fourth in command to and to it to the flagship of the of the federation and it's a
piece of fiction and it's a it's silly and everything but think about what that means as
a culture of what we're telling our kids that you can be the best of the best the top highest ranking or one of them now it's cardi b on a giant bed jumping up and down on a song called
wap getting trouble on youtube if we even tell you the name of it i can't even that's that's that's
that's the culture today being given to explain how how demoralized i am with that with that
grammy performance with the whole cardi b phenomenon
with this i can't i can't so did you just say that youtube is more conservative definitely
than the legacy media yeah absolutely look i don't care if cardi b wants to do those dances
okay that's fascinating assessment i mean i agree with, but it's just it's fascinating to think that culturally they will censor.
Whatever WAP means, and yet you blasted out over the airwaves on the Grammys.
Now, listen, I am not offended at all in any way by the web performance.
I really don't care in the sense that if you want to have your own show and you want to do that
by all means go and do it I'm just not going to watch it much like the LGBTQ Captain America
I'm glad you guys get your presentation I think it's important I'm happy you guys have a comic
you're enjoying me personally I'm not going to buy it I don't like mint ice cream I don't like
chocolate chip mint I think mint is gross I don't want to take it away from anybody else I'm not
offended by I just won't buy it so the Grammys can mint is gross. I don't want to take it away from anybody else. I'm not offended by it.
I just won't buy it.
So the Grammys can do their show, and I'm not going to watch it.
But my criticism is that what do we then share as a mass culture where we all actually say this is something that inspires us and it makes us feel better?
Oh, yeah.
That's gone.
Social cohesion is gone.
The top-down one-to-many model of communication and social cohesion, gone forever.
The only thing at this point now that's going to bring total cohesion is a return.
My boy Michael Millerman knows what I mean when I say a return.
What does that mean?
A return.
Not everything old is bad and not everything new is good.
And it's true.
Yeah, I think it's funny. I was taking these political tests political tests you know like the eight values and like the political compass my political
compass test man i am further left and further libertarian than i've ever been reading like
through these tests but you know what i realized the political compass test is outdated it doesn't
ask anything about the modern culture war the modern left or right it asks you like how do you
feel about progressive taxes and like multinational corporations?
So I'm like, that doesn't matter.
But I was taking these tests and I was just looking at some of these questions.
And it's very interpretable.
I guess what I'm trying to say is when we try to understand someone's politics, you
could ask someone a question like, do you think major corporations have an advantage
in their ability to move quickly
and execute plans quickly no i didn't ask you if you thought it was good or bad oh i just think
the answer to that question is no do you don't think corporations have an advantage over moving
quickly absolutely not that's the biggest downfall over the government oh over the government yes
they can move more quickly than the government i'm not saying you like it and that's and that's
what happens people end up looking at you at these political compass tests and political tests.
And it's like, no, the only question dividing us politically and will be eventually we will
all be sorted by this 100% is do you believe in essentialism or do you believe in the blank
slate?
That's going to be the final dividing line.
Define those things.
Essentialism that we are an act who we are based on our biology, our hormones, our size, our strength, that you can't disconnect biology from the way you behave in culture, etc.
And blank slate is that you're born with nothing.
Constructivism.
And you are injected with all the things that you believe in all of your interests and all of your desires and all of your capabilities and all of your aptitudes.
So let me we can pull this up. that you believe in all of your interests and all of your desires and all of your capabilities and all of your aptitudes.
So let me, we can pull this up.
I took the eight values test and it ranks me as a pragmatist that says politics objectively boils down to looking at where the problems are and trying to solve them according to
the means available.
But the interesting thing about this, when you're trying to figure out someone's left
or right, you can't anymore.
Why?
Well, I'm a progressive.
It says 69% progressive, 19% 19 kind of middle and then a very
tiny fraction conservative i'm for 64 rehabilitative justice man sounds like i'd fit right with a lot
of these progressives the only problem i'm a 57 essentialist but wait rehabilitative justice is
totally different than restorative justice right but. But so that's critical race collectivist stuff.
Yeah.
Right.
So when the progressives talk about rehabilitation versus, well, at least they used to.
That's why I'm saying it doesn't apply anymore.
When you look at the left and the right, here's what's really funny.
When you look at my test, 57% capitalism, but 69% progressive.
And they'll tell you people like me don't exist.
But I'm 57% essentialist, meaning collective constructivism, where you think everything's
a construct, is non-existent on my eight values test. And then international and national are
fairly balanced. Revolution and reform, fairly balanced. Ecology and production, balanced.
Regulation and laissez-faire balanced the core issues for me
are essentialism and well i should say this the big debate as you pointed out right now in politics
in culture is constructivism versus essentialism that's what defines you as left or right i suppose
100 and in fact that's the main thesis of my book democrats are deplorable is that our political
parties will be sorted and are sorting currently under this paradigm.
I would think that we got we got to go to super chats because we are running late.
Oh, cool.
But let's let's let's let's talk more about these political spectrum stuff and constructivism
in the members only segment.
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yeah shout out for your one year. All right.
Let's see what we got here.
The Black Blade says, Ian, you might not be married or have kids, but did you know that
you are helping me become a better husband and father?
My seven of Damascus steel would have your back any day.
Thanks, dude.
Oh, there you go, man.
God's work.
The Wrong Thinker says, I can't wait to retire and grow a Jack Murphy beard.
Don't wait.
If you're afraid that your employer won't let you have a beard like this, do you want to work for them?
No.
All right.
I'm like, we have a bunch of super chats coming in, and I'm like, wow, it must be a good day.
A lot of people are, I wonder what's happening.
Oh, the Black Blade says, guess what?
Stimulus.
Guess what I choose to invest in? My alt media cheers friends hey greatly appreciate it if you
got those stimulus checks i i see a whole bunch of you know it's one of the funniest things in
the world they're giving all these people 1400 bucks some people don't need it and they're just
buying stocks with it they're buying game stop with it is it not financial advice is it taxable
yes it is yes so dumb it's like we're gonna give you money but then take some back with your own GameStop with it. Not financial advice. Is it taxable? Yes. It is?
That's so dumb. It's like, we're going to give you money
but then take some back. With your own tax
money, we're going to pay you and then tax you.
Unemployment is taxed.
It's called
an insurance payout, but they tax you.
It's smart.
Because that way, the people that made a lot
of money before they become unemployed
still have to pay tax at the progressive rate.
It's a way of diminishing the return of that benefit to people that don't need it.
Then why do a means tested check where they're like, if you make certain amount of money, you don't get one.
No, just your taxes will cover that.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm wrong on the taxation.
No, I think you're absolutely right.
At least I know for sure on employment.
I'm pretty sure on this though.
I thought everybody, my opinion is that everybody should get to get a check.
Yeah, you don't have to do means tested if you just if it's taxable and thrown on top
of your AGI.
I even think billionaires should get a check.
You know why?
Because there's not that many of them and they're getting taxed on that.
They're only going to end up getting a couple hundred bucks off of their income.
It's not that bad.
Maybe they get 1200 of it or of the 1400. They get 700. No, no, no, no. It is that bad. Maybe they get $1,200 of it. Or of the $1,400, they get $700.
No, no, no.
It is that bad.
People don't realize.
The top tax bracket is not 90% anymore.
Oh, let's talk about all the other taxes on top.
Sales tax.
Let's talk about the corporate tax.
Let's talk about their employment tax, Social Security.
Bro, you ain't got to convince me taxes are bad.
People don't understand that income tax is not the only issue
taking money away from people who are
working. And there's actually net benefits wealthy people get at a certain level, like Social Security
tax stops at a certain number. So you're making a ton of money. Also, your check gets bigger.
I'm just saying that if we're already taxing this, if it's taxed, my argument was that,
let's say you were making $150 a year. And so you got an apartment in New
York because your standard of living is there. And then COVID hits and you lose your job.
And now you can't everything you budgeted for your phone bill, your car, you got an auto loan.
You know, your loan is a couple hundred bucks a month or whatever. And now you're like,
I can't pay these bills. Then you hear about the stimulus and you're like,
please, I need some money. And they say, oh, but not you because you're
rich. You made a bunch of money last year. It's like, bro, I lost my job. I'm going to lose
everything. Then you have someone has a lower bracket who deserves the money as well. They're
budgeted for 50,000. They're clear and they can pay their bills and they can maintain their standard
of living. It's going to be knocking middle class people down to lower middle class and lower class.
That's why I thought the means testing was wrong. And and i'm like if you're going to do a stimulus it should be like unemployment
benefits and a stimulus for everybody i think it might be taxed not taxed i don't know um tax day
got pushed back to may 15 may 17th all right we got jeff bow he says hey beanie crew i was hoping
you could shout out my friend brock who introduced me to you guys you guys should talk about the
composition of the government budget. People
don't know enough in my opinion.
That's a good point. I watched a video
from Gravel Institute, I think it's
called. And it was David Cross talking about
why America sucks. And it was really
good at first. I was really excited.
They're well produced. And he's
basically like, look at all this we're spending in taxes.
And the problem is,
and then he goes into healthcare costs and like inefficiency of the healthcare industry. And I basically like, look at all this we're spending in taxes. And the problem is, and then he goes into health care costs and like inefficiency of the health care industry.
And I was like, you were so close, bro.
You needed to say only one thing.
The tax dollars, too much of it goes to blowing up kids in foreign countries.
Black budget.
Yeah.
Well, we don't even know what it's being spent on.
Or like, what was it?
There's like trillions of dollars missing from the Pentagon budget.
Like they didn't know where it went or something.
Things like that and so i'm saying like dude if you come out you come to me and say hey
you know that we spend like 600 billion dollars on war i'd be like okay how much of that is like
actual defense of america probably not as much as you'd think a lot of it goes to these overseas
military bases and things like that after that you can argue anything you want to me like i need a billion dollars for this program i'll be like oh yeah take it from
the blown up kids department right so there's a really great argument for for progressives if they
start with uh we're not going to tax you more we're just going to take the money from the things
that are dumb and put towards things that make more sense and i think everyone then is going to
be like okay i mean unless you get like critical race theory stuff like the green new deal otherwise that's crazy all right christina h says by the way ian last week when i said you
look like ian hill of judas priest in the 80s i totally meant that as a compliment thanks for all
you guys do love you have a great night i looked it up but oh i didn't i don't think i got him i
didn't think i looked like him i feel bad why uh michael brogan says, it's St. Paddy's Day. Enjoy that beer, Jack.
Oh, you're right.
We should have all had a beer.
Jack Murphy.
Not playing.
Formerly John Goldman.
Now Jack Murphy.
It's a great name.
You should embrace it.
Gold man.
John Murphy.
Explain the history.
John Murphy Gold.
That's my full name.
Yeah.
John and Jack is like a translatable.
Indeed it is.
Ah, this is like a translatable like indeed it is like um ah this is uh like uh i gotta step on my saint patty's day moment like that i think it's a good move good lord i like
spencer predholm says tim when's the tinfoil hat gorilla shirt coming out i'll become a member
just for that you know what you're right i have uh not gotten that. And it's basically done.
And it should be up.
So we will do, and I'll try and do this by tomorrow, a limited edition tinfoil hat.
I am a gorilla shirt.
Tinfoil hat.
It looks pretty good.
We have the graphic.
I just got to get it up.
So the Diamond Hands one, I didn't really have a plan for. I just thought it was funny.
Like, you know, because the GameStop, the Wall Street bets people have a meme, you know,
apes together strong.
It's from Planet of the Apes.
And so I was like, well, we have this shirt.
Let's make one where he's like a Wall Street guy with money.
That'll be funny.
Apparently, everybody really loves it.
I like the evolution of the gorilla.
He's become a Wall Street trader.
We'll have to do a gorilla in space one day.
On Mars with Elon Musk.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see.
Butters Oreganogano says glad you
guys had rucka on the other day i feel like he's so close to breaking out of the dream world that
is objectivism also glad you pushed back more fervently near the end of the show i just think
that look alan west said things i didn't necessarily agree with but i'm not here to just
argue and like berate necessarily although
sometimes you know we've had people on the show where we get into pretty like you know pretty
legit arguments i do try to be like okay here's a person who's expressing their opinion let's flesh
out their opinion a little bit and then if they say something i really disagree with i'll push
back you know but for the most part it's like we're trying to learn from other people and think
and figure out what they think all right dv ken bravo says tim and crew first sc here funny how the democrats say that states
that have constitutional carry or are two-way sanctuaries will turn to the wild west when
leftist run cities like minneapolis sure look like the okay corral you don't see chases in texas
diamond hands gorilla for life he says that's right diamond hands gorilla yeah that's funny
what do you think would happen if there was like a chas in texas i don't think it would work it's Diamond hands gorilla for life, he says. That's right. Diamond hands gorilla. Yeah, that's funny.
What do you think would happen if there was like a Chaz in Texas?
I don't think it would work.
It's a non-starter.
Yeah.
Just wouldn't happen.
Because the guy who lives there would just walk outside and be like, keep walking.
Right.
Although there was that, you know, Dallas shooting stuff, that crazy guy shooting the cops.
I mean, that was crazy.
Yeah, that got memory old,'t it what was that when that guy i that
that gentleman of a non-specific race shot up a bunch of cops of specific races a black a black
identity extremist in dallas started shooting at cops when killed like six of them in the late
lead in the run-up to the 2016 election yeah uh oh yeah yeah all right let's see
april fierce family g2g says china has starvation to keep their people weak under control the u.s's
ideology is to keep us separated weak and under control mental slavery to keep us from coming
together and fighting back media propaganda and lack of knowledge yeah except in China they have moved more people out of poverty
into living conditions that are sustainable than anybody in the world
they have urbanized at a rate faster than anybody else in the world I have no
idea what that person's talking about the Nazis did that to what urban all
those people out of poverty I'm not saying that they didn't know and it's
funny the guys like Steven Pinker that will look around the world and say, oh, democracy and freedom is spreading and changing poverty conditions and bringing people out of poverty.
They failed to mention that the number one driving statistical force and people coming out of poverty is Chinese authoritarian communism.
Interesting.
You never say that.
It's how you get out of poverty really is the key.
All right.
A Texan says millennials are depressed.
To your earlier point, we're rationally paying attention and realizing our country isn't the one we were promised in our youth.
MAGA resonated for a reason with a lot of people.
That's absolutely.
I think a lot of the people who are on the left vote Democrat.
They just watch the mainstream media and believe what they're told.
So to them, it's like, why aren't I getting what I want?
Blame Trump. Okay, I will.
Black Rock Beacon says, I look forward to things
like hearing from your
about me, wait, what?
Like hearing from you about me being your
war hazardous environment correspondent.
Former EOD tech with special forces
deployment to Afghanistan, trained and ready
to go.
Cool.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Why are you going to be so awkward over there, Ian?
All right.
J Mac, you got a big old super chat.
He says, honestly, after I got medically retired from the military, was really depressed and lost purpose.
It was the lowest point in my life, and I had a pretty rough childhood.
After cutting junk food and excessive beer out of my life, I on my kids and started starting a business happiest i've ever been
wow congratulations dude take action align yourself to the energy of the universe action
is rewarded the gut biome is like we gotta have a gut biome expert on some well south part of that
episode where they were trying to get fecal implants where they were doing yeah the butt
swaps. Yeah.
Apparently, it's really good for you.
You can reintroduce positive bacteria into your gut biome.
I know, right.
Absolute Territory says, Tim, I have a favorite spatula and I'm not depressed.
I happen to be an amateur home chef, though, and my favorite spatula just works great.
That was the one thing she said that I didn't have any problem with.
You get older, you have a favorite spatula.
I was using one to get the scoby out of the kombucha earlier.
It was an artifact of her talking about how many brownies she eats.
Yeah, right?
Yeah.
April Fierce Family says,
When you don't have an identity in God and find it elsewhere,
that's why they created identity politics and now social warriors,
and legalized sin.
And when that's filled to the brim you can punch old
ladies without a thought i mean it's a it's a it's a lack of a moral framework there's none
their moral framework is based upon if like it's not even about being a framework they have a very
clear and explicit moral framework no they don't yes they do then why do they just doesn't this
owens because that's part it fits into their moral framework.
They have morals, and we are in violation of their morals.
That's why they hate us.
That's why they think that we're the evil.
That's why they think we need to be put down.
This really is an excellent example.
You're correct in saying they have a moral, but my argument is—
They don't have the right one.
A moral that is, agree with me or I'll beat you is not a moral framework.
It is just a rudimentary, like, man, primitive.
Their moral framework is, is if you don't work towards justice for everybody, you're actively working against justice for everybody.
And therefore, you're evil.
Define justice in this moral framework.
It's their definition.
That's the point I'm bringing up.
There's there's no way to define what they're fighting for.'s agree with them or else that's not a framework that is just a
an instinctual demand of in tribe or not in tribe so how tim do you see they even attack their own
of course they're going to that's the way it's going to end it's not a moral framework when
they arbitrarily attack someone who agrees with them.
I think that if we examine that circumstance a little bit deeper, we would see perhaps that there wasn't as clear as that.
But I'm just bringing this up as a way to compare again.
It's not the absence of a moral framework that's a problem.
It's the adherence to crappy, stupid moral frameworks that's the problem.
And that we've been given and presented with a moral framework that works.
Now, are we going to adhere to it or not is the question.
All right.
All right. We got a very important super chat here from Hayden.
He says, Tim, you often say that people should move to the woods and build things with their hands.
This is one big problem.
Money.
You have to own the tract of forest to build a house in it.
I want nothing more than to build a house in it i want nothing more than
to build a home it costs tens of thousands for the land alone do you know how much it costs
for a half acre in west virginia 1500 bucks yeah you can find that depending on where you are in
west virginia water and actually an electricity uh no raw actually no some have streams some
actually have access to some but like like, well, sure, sure.
But raw.
But if you want to get closer to the urban centers, you can get a half acre for five grand.
Now, I don't know if they'll do a loan on just five grand.
So maybe, you know, you've got to save up a little bit.
But maybe that's what you got to do.
Save up a little bit.
Maybe it's just going to be more difficult when you find an acre for $1,500.
And you probably can. Cheap. Middle of nowhere. And you've got to be more difficult when you find an acre for $1,500 and you probably can.
Cheap, middle of nowhere, and you've got to be completely self-reliant.
But you know what ends up happening?
It's like I talked about with the Occupy people who got that farm.
They realize how hard it is to actually live being self-reliant.
And it is just easier to say, I'd rather just work at a fast food restaurant.
It is easier to work at a fast food restaurant.
There's really cool prefab buildings with like gray water systems built in and i think there are a lot of
price solar price yeah probably like 20 relatively but you way more than that you can you can cheap
ones you can get some pretty cheap prefab stuff granted now we're talking of tens of thousands
of dollars but if you get an acre of land with some trees on it it's not all that expensive it's not the
easiest thing in the world i'm actually saying it is hard that's the point but you're also kind of
like just pointing the direction i know it is it is hard you can't just be like hey tomorrow go
go buy that land but aim for it it's not tim you're pointing out a destination as people
should head to i often do that too but really what we're talking about is the spirit, the spirit of, I will not accept my current circumstances and I will do everything I can
to change them, to improve them. I will forget about my vices. I will forget about my
entertainment. I will dedicate myself to solving this problem because I'm an independent
auto-regulating man or woman, whatever. Point is, is you just have to take this attitude of I can, not the attitude of I can't.
That's exactly it.
So I'm not, I shouldn't literally, like, I think it's an extreme example of like,
go in the woods and build a house with sticks.
What I'm actually just saying is be a pioneer.
You know, find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it.
Whether it's go into your like living
room and just start drawing pictures something you don't normally do honestly i think people
should go for walks i think people should literally like if you play video games all day
turn out a podcast and go for a walk no joke it will change your life if you're not active
and and i know a lot of people probably can't probably can't go for walks because of covet
or whatever but if you can find the time like even watching this show i don't go walk around
in the middle of the night or whatever when it's dark out or something but a lot of people will
listen to this show in the in the next day or so get up early in the morning just go walk around a
little bit you'll see some squirrels doing squirrel stuff that's always funny right you know squirrels
are silly saving the world starts in the squat rack i mean that literally and figuratively you
save yourself save society save everything by getting fit and strong.
Make it the number one most important priority in your life after sleep.
Yeah.
And drink water.
Yeah.
When you wake up, you want to drink some water.
It'll change your life.
Because when you're sleeping for seven, eight hours or however long you sleep, you're not drinking any water.
You wake up dehydrated.
Immediately slam some water and you will feel like a million bucks. million go to the bathroom when you need to go to the bathroom your body is doesn't know when if you if your body has wants and needs and
it doesn't understand not giving it tell me about your body's wants and i'm not going to get into
it on the show jack i'll tell you afterwards thank you definitely all right members only
jonathan galterini says check out jack posobic on twitter he got military people to send him the latest on biden's new extremism training
for ratting out extremists oh yeah nobody ever knew anyone so they altered the definition to
fit right-wing extremism yeah because people would people were like what does extremism look like to
you what have you seen in the and the troops were like, well, you know, when Antifa was attacking that federal courthouse in Portland, and then the people running the thing were like, no, that's not what we're talking about.
There you go.
All right.
Dude, the military is in trouble.
Yeah, that's what Alan was saying last night.
Big time.
Yeah, we're going to break apart.
We're going to get crushed.
I am not optimistic in that regard.
It's so weird we need allies give me i mean look it's at one it is the most bountiful
time to be alive look at you tim no high school no college bust your ass for real guys tim pool
works harder than anybody i know bust your ass and ass, and here you are. This is the most bountiful time to be alive, but at the same time, it is very difficult
to not be just horribly pessimistic.
I think people have been conditioned not to work hard or to not know how to start.
I can't.
They've been conditioned to.
I can't.
You don't need to.
You probably used to need to, but now you can kind of get by with kind of not doing
much.
Was it James Lindsaysey told us this
i can't remember if it was him someone said they were playing world of warcraft and they were
building up this character yeah and then eventually realized like all of those all that time and
energy i'm putting into making this really awesome character i could make myself really awesome
there is no no better feeling than leveling up your real life leveling up your real life is the
bomb dude making youtube videos and watching the analytics is like a role-playing game you're like oh my
my numbers are going up i'm watching the value of the comments of the communication my skills
are increasing though yeah i mean life is insane no especially when your numbers go down and you
think it's you but it's really just right right you gotta reach you you can you eventually learn
that it's trends and worst thing in the world detach from the
personalization of it social media is a plague an addiction and it's destroying the minds of
people because they don't understand human behavior and how networks work and so what
happens is they make a youtube video they get a million views they feel really good about
themselves and then here comes like summertime and everyone goes out to play in the yard and don't watch
YouTube videos and they only get 100,000 views and it become depressed and then quit because
they don't understand what they're doing wrong.
They're not doing anything wrong.
It happens all the time.
But for you, it didn't like you can sometimes you can understand and make money off of it.
You're completely wrong.
Not completely.
This affects everybody.
And I get like, like I mentioned, I'm getting hit up all the time right now.
I get like 10 people hitting up the past week. Yo they're suppressing my content what do i do i'm freaking
out i'm like stop nothing you're doing nothing i just happen to be i guess uh knowledgeable in
the industry tracking media ratings you're persistent listen when i first started doing
this i understood how how ratings worked i understood how seasons worked when one day it
rained viewership went up and i laughed i'm like it's raining on the east coast major storm so everyone's inside but people don't get
this and social media makes them go insane because they don't know how to make these systems work
properly you don't want to overanalyze it you know what is simple for people for leveling up
going for a run and being like wow i ran a minute longer than last time yeah but also saying
something you believe and then seeing people respond you're like oh it's better than a video game no yeah and right it's an addiction
it's dangerous people then become extremists on social media advocating for violence bro social
media is is is diseasing people's brains is a horrible but it's also a career so i mean it's
it's how you use a dangerous tool are we diseasing people's brains right now i don't think so i
didn't say every single person on social media and every element of it.
But social media as a system does disease some people's brains.
No, no, not can.
It literally does.
Well, I was going to say can disease someone.
Does disease some also.
People are getting surgery to look like Instagram filters.
It's crazy.
I was going to bring that up earlier, actually.
It's making people go nuts.
Right.
The point I'm saying is it's a powerful tool and it's
better than a video game what i'm saying what i'm saying is there are a lot of things you can do to
trigger a dopamine release to make you feel good and the simplest and easiest thing anyone can do
is go for a walk i used to hang with bill aubin when we were building mines and i was playing
video games he's like i was like don't you play video games he's like this is my video game dude
and he was like coding yeah of course it's better. Going for a walk is where you start.
And then finding local events.
That's why I love going to skate parks, skateboarding,
because you instantly have a shared community.
You know, I can guarantee you,
I can show up at a skate park
and I can have a conversation with anyone.
What was the last time you rolled up on a skate park?
Just like you.
A month and a half ago.
And did you have any moment
of chill time just being tim what do you mean did people recognize you no i went to a skate park we
rode around and it was silly and the ground sucked and no one recognized you no they were like 13 14
years old that's crazy i'm very few older people they got kids man i go i go out to dinner in dc
and the waitress recognizes me and
as i'm leaving she comes out isn't 13 years old true i'm at a skate park oh 13 year old kids
mostly kids hang out kids the adults are now working or doing whatever they're doing people
quit skateboarding and and there's a reason why it's been a month and a half since i've gone back
to a skate park because i also work granted we have a skate park here so it's you know three of
them two of them two of them you know at but i know i know this
and this is why skateboarding is so great you go to a skate park you will meet people and you can
instantly have a conversation and a community share ideas and encourage each other clap and
cheer for each other and it's always there now in in with covet and everything it's kind of been
getting pretty bad you know people people haven't been out. But if you get the chance, well, we do got to read some more Super Chats.
So we got Oliver Moreland says, hey, gang, greetings from Minnesota.
We have blue cities, but every other country in the state is, every other county in the
state is red.
Rocks and Cows is holding a King Waltz protest during a speech this Sunday.
The hatred towards him in the state is insane, but well-deserved.
There's a cultural split between cities and outside of cities i was reading a study that said even in red states
cities are blue it's the weirdest thing i went to a small town in a red state and they had black
lives matter flags everywhere you go a mile out trump flags everywhere i'm like that's weird why
is that the city was only a few thousand people, but for some reason
it turned blue. It's weird.
Tyler B says,
truck drivers are in super high demand.
Companies pay like 3 to 4k
cost for training them to make 40k your
first year. I'm four years in
74k and debt free at 28.
It's a matter of wanting it bad enough.
No excuses. Be a truck driver
for no out of pocket dude that
was always that's always like a tempting job man road trips my brother did that for like two plus
years or something i'm sure at a certain point you're just driving and it's a job but i love
road trips man you got on the road just hopping at the rest stop you get to see little knickknacks
they got you get to meet people talk about stuff you got the radio playing road trips are fun man
trucking sounds like a fun job all right we got pavi maris says it's fun job until you're away
from your family for four days at a time then when you come back you want to sleep for three days
yeah maybe it's a young man's game i don't know that's why why do you think it pays well
relative to the training and education required yeah because it sucks it's hard work i don't know
i mean he said he wanted it you have
to pay men to be away from their family that's true that's the thing a lot of the things that
you say are based on your perspective and it's for sure of single and not and not having family
because i just would never the thought would just never cross my mind that like being away from my
kids for a week at a time would be a good idea not having under any condition yeah but what about
your significant other?
Yeah, same.
I don't want to be away from her either.
Come with me, babe.
Yeah, you bring her with.
Yeah.
So what's the, there you go.
No, but as a trucker, you can't do that.
I'm saying she travels with me now.
I mean, maybe you could, right?
Yeah.
All right.
We got Pavi Maris says, Indian guy in Portland here.
You guys definitely are a silly people with all the contemporary BS in the culture war.
And it's the low T people, women mainly, who are the mouthpieces for the BS.
Well, there you go.
What do they do in India?
Sweeping generalization.
Yeah, right?
Women are generally low-T.
I guess you're right.
I know.
That's not an insult.
I get it.
Well, I guess that's essentialism.
The opposite is an insult.
Josiah Manon says, I guess that's essentialism. The opposite is an insult. Josiah Manone says,
I agree, Tim.
We need to make our own games again.
I want Twisted Metal again,
but if the big devs make it,
it will be woke like Twisted Metal 3
and completely miss the point of why we loved that game.
Twisted Metal was awesome.
Yeah, I love that game.
Shadow?
That was the gray car.
Was it?
Yeah, he's great.
Warthog?
Are they going to remake Leisure Suit Larry? What is that? That was like a point-and- that game, Shadow. That was the gray car. Was it? Yeah, he's great. Warthog? Are they going to remake Leisure Suit Larry?
What is that?
That was like a point and click game, kind of like King's Quest.
But you were this dude who was like this sex addict with a suit.
It was basically one step up from Oregon Trail.
Hey.
And it was about trying to be like a ladies' man.
When you were younger, you thought that there was going to be boobs in it man there was it what you when you're younger you thought that there
was going to be like boobs in it or porn in something when there wasn't porn all over the
place and you're 14 just the notion of being able to see a breast was like super excited
we got a video game coming out yeah we got a video game it's pretty hot i haven't been talking about
it do you want to talk about it not not too much maybe a little bit but i'm wondering like what
if is there a timetable on when we think it might be six months to eight months really at the rate
we're going yeah it's a we could probably speed that up if we wanted to it's a culture war themed
rogue like a game that's going to be fun and hilarious and it only uses cartoon violence
and i guess i'll just say this i don't know if i'm supposed to but uh freedom tunes is doing
the cartoon work so it's literally going to be like a freedom tunes video game it's very cool yeah we're trying to make it really fun and funny
and it's going to be cartoon violence because video games always have some elephant like mario
smashes turtles by crushing them and like you know kicking them but we're going to have more
silly like big rubber mallets and like punching gloves and stuff like that bone arrow that shoots
like plungers yeah plungers and stuff but it's a a rogu like plungers. Yeah. Plungers and stuff,
but it's a,
a roguelike game.
So it's like,
you know,
you're a little guy,
it's a platformer sort of,
and you're like making your way.
I don't want to give away too much information,
but it's,
it's,
it's,
it's freedom tunes.
You've seen many more.
That's one of my favorite things to do is to create video games.
Sorry to cut.
Yeah,
no,
I think we should make like a,
we should,
we want to open source it and we want to have it so that people can develop their own items and mods and things like that.
And there's going to be like items and combos.
You know, I've got this vision of the future of video games that like when you log in to your PlayStation network or whatever we want to call it, you have like an avatar.
And then when you play a game, anything you do in that game gets you abilities that go back to your account that you can take to other games that you play i'll stop you right there i had an idea um i was talking
with nishra about this i think where you have a general accomplishments app on your phone with a
character that you level up get new weapons and you can do mini games or whatever but you level
up the character by 5 000 steps you earn 100 experience points you know
so certain things that you can do and you can track on your phone like travel five miles
not just even walking like go out of your house and go drive somewhere even if it's in your car
by yourself for a drive and then what happens is it tracks it and then your character levels up and
it's actually just a personal thing and that could unlock abilities and items in the video games that are...
No, mine was just like,
how do you make a really awesome character?
You can show off and generate this little thing
and every day you get 5,000 steps
like something happens.
This is an idea.
All right, we got to read a super chat here.
We got Wandering Mage who says,
I need to change.
I'm leaving behind my old hobbies,
video games, MTG, et cetera.
I'm reinventing myself, getting back into reading, studying philosophy, working out, reading my Bible.
I think I might try scuba diving.
Why not, right?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I think Magic the Gathering went nuts.
The power creep is insane.
And it's just a ridiculous game now, which is a bummer.
I guess you need different formats to make the game work better.
I want to scuba dive off the Malaysian coast, Southeast Asia, where that flood took out the Mu people.
Apparently, it says that was the ancient culture that rivaled Atlantis.
All right.
A bunch of super chats come in.
William J.
Hey, Tim.
Check out Project Appleseed Rifle Marksmanship Clinics.
Two days of instruction along with history of battles of Lexington and Concord.
Hey, that's cool.
They have Appleseed all over the country.
You can go and do a marksmanship course and compare with your buddies all across the country.
Right on.
There was a big super chat.
Where did that one go?
Because YouTube jumps and then it skips over all of them.
A lot of talk about Star Trek from very smart people.
That's right.
Meridian Forest says,
Hey, Tim, Air Force service member here
getting promoted tomorrow to E4.
So I thought I'd share a little bit
of my paycheck with you.
Love your content.
Love what you're doing.
Keep up the good work
and tell Ian he's a valued
and respected man on the show.
Dude, amen.
Congratulations on the promotion, man.
And I was going to say that
even if you didn't mention my name,
but thank you.
Amen to that, Ian.
Thanks, Jack.
I love when people come to my channel to say that even if you didn't mention my name, but thank you. Amen to that, Ian. Thanks, Jack. I agree.
I love when you're here.
People come to my channel to talk to me about you and my comments.
I should come on your show someday.
You should.
And then we can just have at it with the commenters.
Oh, finally.
Let's see.
Okay.
I'm reading through some super chats here.
Psst. Let's see. Okay. I'm trying to... I'm reading through some super chats here.
Roberto Flores says,
Star Trek, the original series, episode,
Patterns of Force.
They drug and prop up the Fuhrer to speak on TV,
but he's manipulated by the Nazi party to say what they want,
like how Biden is propped up.
Is that...
What is it?
Yeah?
I'm not the biggest fan of the original series, but I'm a fan of the original series. The Next Generation, say what they want, like how Biden is propped up. Is that what is it? Yeah, I haven't.
I'm not the biggest fan of the original series, but I'm a fan of the original series.
The next generation. I've seen every episode numerous times.
Were you big on the first series?
I watched them.
You know, I'm not that old, bro.
But by the time that, you know, I would come home from school, there'd be a couple reruns
on.
I've seen a lot of them, I think.
All right.
Troy Dunham says, Tim, Jack, Ian, thank you.
This is the discussion we need. You where it is it's here we love our culture and we're finding it here
thanks tonight's episode is what we can't find anywhere tired of hearing about aoc right on
that's the other thing too it's like i i've tried to make sure that like my references to her have
avoided the stupid petty garbage because i definitely played that game before now i'm
trying to be like i only want to say nice things about people when i get the opportunity to do it if they do something dumb
i'll criticize them but aoc did the thing in taxes millions of dollars helped people out that's rad
yeah deserves credit for that i don't want to i don't want to just you know it goes a long way to
positive reinforcement that's right i want all the politicians to go into like a a help the poor off
like you know ted cruz versus aoc who can help more poor people
and like make their communities better aha that would be great that would actually be really
hilarious like ted cruz uses standard conservative values to try and improve the lives of the people
in his community aoc uses progressive values and then we like we give them a score based on how
well they've done like has employment gone up and then you know what i mean i mean isn't the basic
difference teaching man to fish or give a man to fish don't we know hey hey look i think if people's lives are improving let's let's roll
with it you know what i mean and make it a positive thing but you know well maybe maybe it won't maybe
some ideas are bad ideas we'll see what happens teaching a man to fish that's not starving is nice
well here's the way i put it they say if you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for the rest of his life, assuming he has a fishing pole.
Oh, you've thought deep.
So my thing is, I'm not going to give a man a fish.
I'm going to teach him how to fish, give him a fishing pole, and say, now you're on your own.
Show him where the water is.
Right.
And then make him drink.
And then stand behind him and drink the water.
All right, here we go.
Rachel Knight Online says, hi, Tim.
As long as we're mixing our metaphors.
Hi, Tim.
Big fan from El Paso.
Beto O'Rourke is the man who did nothing for our district when he was our congressman.
Lost in his Senate bid.
Embarrassingly lost in his presidential bid.
And is now looking
to run for governor.
What are your thoughts?
Your federal congressperson does not represent, does not improve your district.
They represent your district at the federal government.
So if the roads are dirty and everything's all messed up, you got to vote locally.
I also think Beto O'Rourke is not a good politician.
You know, I keep, I want to keep the language light.
I don't, you know, maybe in private, I'll say some worse things about him and some other individuals, but I just, I'm not a fan politician you know i keep i want to keep the language lighter i don't i don't you know maybe in private i'll say some worse things about him and some other individuals but
i just i'm not a fan of beto i think he's duplicitous you know he said he wanted to
take everyone's guns he doesn't like him yeah yeah i'm not a fan he seemed like an obama clown
and you can tell like obama i'll give him respect for actually being able to stand on a skateboard
but let me tell you something probably cool somebody who's been skating most of their life
when you see someone jump on a board you know if they will be
able to actually perform on a skateboard beta aurora can stand on a board and ride it fine
you get some respect for that but i can tell the dude couldn't do a trick to save his own life
there you go not calling you out that's right but you don't play a game of tricks
all right trevor farrell do a couple more here he says hey you guys are awesome and listening to jack is always a treat keep your
chin up and keep up the good in the keep up the good the good the fight thank you fight appreciate
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