Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #247 - Putin Challenges Biden To LIVE Debate, But Biden Is Too Weak w/Kurt Schlichter

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia sit down with Retired Colonel and lawyer Kurt Schlichter to discuss Vladimir Putin's invitation to Joe Biden for a real debate, the LA riots (in person!), Covid as an adventure for... power-hungry authorities, political instability as Democrats try to overturn elections of Republicans, the resignation of a racist Teen Vogue editor, and the left's rejection of actual progress. Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Joe Biden, tough man. He took on corn pop with the strength of the hero we'd expect. He looked corn pop in the eyes and said, I'm sorry, I called you Esther. And then corn pop put away a straight razor and then Biden breathed a sigh of relief. That's kind of leadership you need. Someone who recognizes they have to apologize and be deferential to those who threaten them. So it's interesting that Joe Biden was willing to apologize to corn pop, but then called Vladimir Putin. What do you call him? A stone cold killer. Yep. He's like, I looked him in the eyes and said he was a killer. And the response to this Vladimir Putin was like, OK, how about we have a debate live? And that's the story right now. And I think we'll have to talk about whether or not I think
Starting point is 00:00:39 it'll be interesting to talk about whether or not anyone has confidence in Biden. I just put in the title. My dude, Biden's too weak. He's not going to be able to handle this. Vladimir Putin would walk all over him. And it pains me to say this. I don't want to speak ill of the president compared to the Russian president. We've got to be honest with ourselves. So we'll talk about this. We also got some other crazy stories. Democrats are trying to remove sitting members of Congress, Republicans, and they want to install a Democrat who lost her election even after the Republican is already seated, certified, and winning. This is the power grab. They're going after Kavanaugh.
Starting point is 00:01:09 They want to change election laws. It's exactly what we thought was going to happen. Joining us today to talk about all this stuff, we've got Kurt Schlichter. Hey. Introduce yourself. Glad to be here. Introduce myself? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Who are you? What are you doing in my house? Oh, I'm a guy. You know, I'm a raconteur, man about town. You're a retired Army colonel? Yeah. Senior columnist for— Yeah, I guess, you know, every other person who comes on.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Well, hell, everybody on your show is a colonel this week. Everybody this week. No, but you're also a senior columnist for Town Hall? I am. I'm an author of a number of books, including the Kelly Turnbull series of conservative novels, hailed by Bill Kristol as appalling. Excellent. I'm very excited about
Starting point is 00:01:45 that and i write for town hall uh three times a week monday wednesday and thursday and occasionally i go on the twitter machine and to cause trouble well a little bit you told me i was wrong i did i did i was like i criticized your tweets but i don't bring i don't want to bring up that journalists because i don't want to like you know what you don't want to make a thing it's not that i don't it's that but also i don't like giving people like they get a shout out from it you know what i mean yeah so we're really not talking about that what i think the interesting part is is you can say kurt you were wrong and i can go oh well that's interesting that's what we are in a fist fight right we're not rolling around in the mud punching each other you were like okay we're canceling each other you were like okay and then
Starting point is 00:02:28 we talked about it and you're like and then we had a conversation it was actually a rather interesting one yeah and here we are and that's kind of the point but uh that's not the way america yes i used to be that used to be did it used to be that way i don't remember well we had it did it wasn't it wasn't fist fights it was just kind of people were mad at each other, disregard, disrespected each other. But now it's like you literally show up to your house with bricks. Well, and then canceling each other. And there's a I think we're going to talk a little later about somebody who got canceled today. And she probably didn't see it coming.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah. And there's so there's a crack forming in the in the woke cancel culture. It was actually a black woman was canceled for being racist against Asians, which flips the whole privilege thing on its head because Asians are supposed to be more privileged than white people. I thought I was double white. Is there a brochure I can consult
Starting point is 00:03:14 to get the whole hierarchy of oppression? I know I'm at the bottom. Kurt, it's easier than this. All you have to do is bend the knee to those who are woke and just say, tell me what to say, and you're safe. It would be, that would make my life a lot easier.
Starting point is 00:03:27 If I was so inclined to be a groveling sissy, I am not so inclined. Ah, well now you're going to get canceled. You know, see the nice thing is if you watch Star Trek, I do not watch Star Trek. I've made love to a woman. That's a fighting word. The old Star Trek where you got Captain Kirk and and he's all you know it's cool i was gonna he's a little he's a little chubby we made we can identify with that we made the four we we we talked about the the four lights meme yesterday have you ever heard anybody anybody say that on four lights me yeah so captain picard is being tortured and they're
Starting point is 00:04:03 trying to force him to say oh i, I think I heard of that. Say there's three... There's five. Five, and there's really four. But there's actually four. It's just a meme now representing people who refuse to say the lie. How's that relate to a red pill? If you take the red pill, you say there's four. Yes, and if you say there's...
Starting point is 00:04:20 I want to mix the sci-fi memes. So when you say... If someone were to say there were five lights, they're either completely blue-pilled or they're subservient to those who are torturing them. Which is pretty much the same thing. Right, right. All right. Here's my question, though.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Could Neo take on old-school Captain Kirk? Picard? Yeah, he's crusty and a sissy. Neo from The Matrix? Neo from The Matrix versus Captain Kirk. I think we need to explore this. Another question. He downloaded Kung Fu.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Was Captain Kirk in The Matrix or have they already broken out of it? How about we'll get into all this. Ian, and hold on. You look a lot like Greg Kinnear. I just needed to get that out there. Thank you. I mean, it's freaking me out. I'm sitting here going... The air is cleared. All right, all right, all right. I'm not pounding the table. Okay, don't do it. We got Ian.
Starting point is 00:04:59 That's one of our rules. Don't pound the table. What up, everybody? Ian Crosland in the house. Greg Kinnear coming at you. Boom. Ready? No, it's you. You're supposed to. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:05:14 I am actually here, but Kurt is stealing the spotlight. It's already off the rails. I know. See, Malice warned you about me. He did. Yes, it's true. And we're going to have a great time tonight it's gonna be all right before we get started and talking about vladmir putin all stuff go to
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Starting point is 00:06:28 Give us five stars, all that good stuff. Ladies and gentlemen, the big news today is that Vladimir Putin has challenged Joe Biden to a debate, a live debate, after Biden called him a killer. Biden spoke out about the Russian president in an ABC News interview this week. ABC News reports, quote, I've just thought of this now, Putin told a Russian state television reporter. I want to propose to President Biden to continue our discussion, but on the condition that we do it basically live, as it's called, without any delays and directly in an open, direct discussion.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It seems to me that would be interesting for the people of Russia and for the people of the United States. They say Putin's invitation seems to amount to a challenge to Biden to a live televised debate following a day of diplomatic uproar that began when Biden said he thought Putin was a killer. In an interview with ABC News's George Stephanopoulos, Russia recalled its ambassador to the U.S. in response to the remark. Now, I think Vladimir Putin's a killer. Well, I think Vladimir Putin thinks Vladimir Putin's a killer. I think he's proud to be a killer. I know. Do you think he was like, oh, man, he called me a killer. Can you believe that? He
Starting point is 00:07:33 called the ambassador home to high five him. I mean, the guy was a KGB colonel. Yeah. All right. He's, you know, he's not he's not Mr. Rogers. He was like watching TV. And then when Biden said it's like that Leonardo DiCaprio meme where he points at the TV, and then his KGB buddies are like, yeah. They're like, dude, the president just shouted you out. And he's like, yeah. And then now he wants the debate because he wants Biden to say it more. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You called me a killer. Thank you. Not even that. It's like Biden calling him a killer is good for Vladimir Putin. It makes him look strong. It makes him look, you know, dangerous. You know, look, I was old school Cold War. I was literally in the Cold War in the army.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And I learned a lot about how to fight Russians and everything. I kind of don't like the Russians. I do like the Ukrainians. Spent a lot of time there. Yeah, Ukraine's cool. But Ukraine is cool. Yeah. But this, Russia is not the threat it used to be.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It is a threat. It is not a pure competitor. It's got a lot. It's like a midget with a strong right arm. Do you remember when Obama called them a regional power? You know, they're not quite a regional power, but they're not quite the superpower that they were because they can't project force the way they did. They do have nuclear weapons. But look, if you want a real threat, it's China. And if you don't want to talk about China,
Starting point is 00:08:58 you talk about anything else, including Russia. We're extremists. Yeah. So have you ever heard of china uncensored i have not heard of china they're a big youtube channel they talk about china and things that are going on there and they mentioned that you know when biden was transitioning some of the people were fairly pro china speaking about how it was good that jobs were going there there was a certain like diplomatic incident i suppose where these guys were deferential to China. And there's fears that as China's taken Hong Kong already, they're imprisoning the Uyghur Muslims. They want Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And they will take Taiwan. And Joe Biden will not do anything to stop them. Joe Biden's going to have a decision point when they move on Taiwan. First of all, they war game it. They know how to do it. And I'm not talking about anything outside of open source stuff. You read this stuff anywhere. There are war games recently revealed where for years Americans have been, you know, we practice war games and we lose against China. And China's got a lot of advantages when you look at Taiwan.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Taiwan's very close. Taiwan's very far from us. We have to put ourselves on a few bases, which are easy to hit, easy to target, small concentrated areas. We also have very few ships compared to what we used to. We used to have, what, a 600-ship Navy with Ronald Reagan, I believe. We're now under 300. Wow, really? Yes. Are there a lot of submarines that we don't know about?
Starting point is 00:10:22 There is nothing people don't know about. You can't, like, secretly build a submarine because it's, like, $10 billion. And they know where our submarine bases are, where we manufacture submarines, so you take satellite pictures of it. What if they have, like, a subterranean manufacturing plant? Moving all the materials in would be noticeable. I think it's kind of hard to hide a ship. Submarines can hide out at sea, obviously, but they have to come in and they have to restock and refit. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:56 So, I mean, I think we know the numbers. The problem is the numbers are growing for the Chinese. The Chinese are a serious military. You don't find them doing a 68 stand down for the extremist boogeymen who don't exist. Look, I spent 27 years in the military.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Okay? I didn't meet any white supremacists. I didn't meet any extremists. I met people who wanted to do their job. And... Well, then what you're basically telling our audience
Starting point is 00:11:20 is one of two things. Either you didn't look hard enough or you're lying to protect them. That's the only... That's only possible. Joe Biden biden says okay we got to weed out these extremists okay so so what's going on huh which one is it well yeah man checkmate good point um no it's a lot easier to talk about you know mythical extremists they're claiming the gadsden flag was a sign of extremism like some guy had on his facebook profile the Gadsden flag was a sign of extremism. Like some guy had on his Facebook profile the Gadsden flag,
Starting point is 00:11:47 so he got removed from D.C., you know, guard duty or whatever. It's the symbol of the American Revolution. Like, don't some states have that as their state flag or something on their license plates? Maybe the American Revolution is going to be branded extremist.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I wouldn't be surprised. They already got the 1619 Project claiming that the real founding of this country was 1619 oh so actually they've already said the american revolution was racist they've said that it was a bunch of racist white landowners trying to preserve their slavocracy it's really weird how the beneficiaries of um all this alleged supremacy stuff are also the very same people promoting it. Yeah. It's weird because it's all affluent establishment types.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And of course, the establishment has changed. It's no longer like, you know, the guy who has Buick dealership in town. Instead, it's the professor of gender studies. Did you hear about the elephant walk that we did in Guam this past year? I know we did one. instead it's the professor of gender studies did you uh did you hear about the elephant walk that we did in guam this past year um i i know we did one and you know we retreated right oh really we retreated because i guess trump or somebody ordered that we were going to do a show of force
Starting point is 00:12:56 long story short my understanding china sent a strike force through this you know the straight of taiwan or whatever and this was a show of force. The U.S. responded with what's called an elephant walk, where we get bombers and fighters and they start going around the runways in Guam. And then they retreated because the U.S. was advised China could blow up that base with a snap of a finger and our planes would be able to get off the ground. It is a problem that the Chinese have decided to pursue an asymmetrical offensive they look they find our weaknesses the thing is we have a limited number of bases okay on land so you just target everything there we have a problem they've got all of china and they have mobile missiles yeah so if they you know, you know, where's the missile? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:45 It's on Chinese Highway 1 going up and down the coast. I mean, I think this is why Joe Biden calling out Putin has been nothing but good for Putin. I think the whole Russia narrative has been nothing but good for Russia. It projects, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:59 America saying Russia is the greatest threat. And then they can use that as to puff themselves up, make them seem bigger than they really are. It's kind of a sugar high. I mean, they kind of know that half our population is going to die at 57 of vodka poisoning because they make it in the radiator of a Zill truck. Do they really do that or are you just being a jerk?
Starting point is 00:14:23 I'm being a jerk. You never know, man. And do they really do that or are you just being a jerk? I'm being a jerk. But, you know. You never know, man. I mean. Dude, if you spend time over there. I spent time in Ukraine, not Russia. I've seen them. Those dudes.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Right. Yeah, man, you don't want to drink the stuff they hand you. Oh, no, no. I was going to say they figure stuff out. They do. And they're smart. Yeah. When you've got limited resources because of communism.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Oh, yeah. They figure out how to make vodka on a radiator. Oh, my gosh. The thing is, they figure out how to make vodka and a radiator. Oh, my gosh. The thing is, and we're going to see that more here. The thing is, working overseas, and I worked overseas in Kosovo, primarily among the Albanians. And these guys, they were just no law. They were smuggling and scamming because they had had to.
Starting point is 00:15:05 For a thousand years, other people had conquered them and oppressed them. So there was no law and order, right? These are not guys who stop at the stop sign at 3 a.m. in the morning when they're out driving. Americans will because we're used to law and order. We're used to, well,
Starting point is 00:15:16 if somebody breaches a contract, I'll go to court and my contract will get enforced. If somebody hits me with a bat, a cop will arrest them. We kind of take that for granted so we act as if there's law. Russians never did that because there wasn't. It was all arbitrary. The Albanians didn't in Kosovo until we started putting things into place there. And I think that's one of the things we're losing here as people lose the ability to appeal to institutions to protect them, whether it's the Department of Justice, you know, the news media.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Remember, the news media should be out there saying, hey, look at these towns ruined because, you know, jobs are going to shift off to China. But they won't do that because that makes Democrats look bad. Do you see what Glenn Greenwald tweeted recently? Let me see if I can find this. Because we're going to rag on the media now. About journalism? Yeah, Glenn Greenwald tweeted. Give me more.
Starting point is 00:16:11 If you think the real power centers in the U.S. are the Proud Boys, 4chan, and Boogaloos, rather than the CIA, FBI, NSA, Wall Street, and Silicon Valley, and spend most of your time battling the former while serving the latter as stenographers your journalism is definitely ish accurate yeah how we don't swear so don't family-friendly how weird is it that a hardcore conservative like me is saying yeah glenn gringo got a good point i mean this guy is not a conservative like i am definitely not he's progressive no but we but, you know, I think we have a common framework where we want institutions that function. You know, we we've been talking about this a little bit. We've talked about it before moral frameworks. And we were talking about how the United States is founded upon a Judeo Christian moral framework. Yes. Whether or not secular individuals realize it or not, when they say things like I don't get get my morals from the Bible, you actually do. Like, you were raised in a culture that
Starting point is 00:17:09 valued certain things, free speech, classical liberalism. If you grew up in China, you'd have a different set of beliefs. If you grew up in India, if you grew up in Pakistan, the people there have a different culture and different set of beliefs. You didn't naturally come to the ideas of classical liberalism. it actually took a very long time and the american revolution was proof of that i bring that up because what i think we're seeing is why is it a staunch conservative like yourself is sitting here going like glenn greenwald is correct well it's because your moral framework is based on the same similar ideas true or mostly the same while you disagree on a ton of policy and political ideas, you come from a similar root moral framework.
Starting point is 00:17:46 These woke leftists and all these Democrats have a completely different moral framework. Exactly. They have completely rejected it. And that is one of the reasons our institutions are collapsing. They're generating – I call it cultural trust fund babies, right? None of these guys built these institutions. The institutions all really came into being before or after World War II. You look at academia, right?
Starting point is 00:18:12 They haven't changed that much. You look at a college today, the way they teach, and a college the way they taught in 1946. Yeah, you got some video and stuff now, but essentially it's some guy standing in the front of the room in front of a bunch of hungover students, you know, yapping at them. All our institutions from the news media to the Department of Justice, academia, even the NFL, they're all tired and exhausted. And they are run by the cultural trust fund babies.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Look at the Kennedys, you know, John F. Kennedy, kind of a dynamic guy. Third generation Kennedys, they're at a crack house. I mean, and that's the question. Who are these guys who run things? You know, they haven't achieved anything. They didn't build it, except the tech guys. They kind of did. So that's a little different.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But other than tech, all the institutions are run by people who didn't build them,'t create them and are frankly unworthy they're just inheritors they say they got a credential they say generational wealth only lasts three generations bingo you've got the first generation that earns it yep the children who saw their their you know parents working yep and then the grandkids who have no idea and just got money and lived with it bingo and they are squandering that inheritance now they you know, these guys, they think that this whole American thing where they live prosperous
Starting point is 00:19:28 and safe is like the natural state of being. Hell yeah. Dude, get out more. Okay, you've been to the favelas, I hope I pronounced that right, in Brazil. Yeah, I've been to
Starting point is 00:19:38 Complexo do Alamão. Yeah. The biggest favela complex. Yeah, not a lot like America. It's getting better better but you're right but but it's a very different state of nature they pacified them that's what it was called when the it was the i think it was the was it the bopi or it might have been the corey there's these two different like swat groups they went in with big guns and they killed everybody who got in the way. Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:14 The thing is, because they didn't build it, because they didn't suffer to create it, they didn't earn it. They're squandering it, and they think it's always going to be there for them. But if things degenerate to the natural state of man, which is power, I think they've got a problem. Oh, definitely. Because a lot of these people are not particularly well suited to a world where life is nasty, brutish, and short. They don't think it exists. Let me tell you. You know one of the first lessons of being a CD hustler, music hustler in the street? You may have seen these people back when CDs were bigger. They're walking around the city, and they got a stack of CDs, and they're like, yo, yo, here, buy my CD, like a CD hustler, music hustler in the street. You may have seen these people back when CDs were bigger.
Starting point is 00:20:45 They're walking around the city and they got a stack of CDs and like, yo, yo, here, buy my CD, buy my CD. And you're like, I don't know who you are. I don't know what your music is. Why would I buy your CD? There's a reason why they don't give the CD away. They want you to listen to their music, but they know they give you the CD for free. You're going to do?
Starting point is 00:20:58 You're going to throw it away. Throw it in the trash. Yeah. But if you give them a buck for it, now you're like, I bought this. Like, I'm not, I don't want to listen to it. Yeah. Well, it's something of value that it, now you're like, I bought this. Now I at least got to listen to it. Yeah. Well, it's something of value that I had to work for. You give it to them for free and they don't value it at all.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And you put it on. It's My Chemical Romance. And you go, damn it. I wish I'd thrown it away. Well, I don't think My Chemical Romance was going around selling CDs in the street. I don't know. Maybe they should. Are they still a thing?
Starting point is 00:21:19 Yes, they are. I don't know. Oh, they are? Maybe like, really? This is 17 years ago. I don't know. It's like a crappy band, you know? All right, all right.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And Nickelback is easy. But, you know. Just offend all the millennials. I'd rather go with the My Chemical Romance. Don't they play a song that everyone plays at prom? I don't know. I'm sure, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I'm a replacements and clash guy. Emo. So. Yeah. Well, so anyway, this is, it's a really, I think it's a really important point. Because we were talking a lot about this yesterday with depressed millennials. Yes. How they don't work.
Starting point is 00:21:47 They sit around all day. And then you were mentioning something interesting. You were saying that for many of these people, the lockdown is like their Woodstock. It is. And I'm going to write about this at Town Hall on Monday. This is excitement. Look, why are dystopian novels and entertainment so exciting? Why do people actually put up with watching The Walking Dead? Because it shows them what a world would be like
Starting point is 00:22:14 that they're in, but actually has challenges, has risks. Human beings like excitement. Look, you were telling me a little earlier about how you got gassed by tear gas. Oh, yeah. I mean, let's look at it objectively. What kind of lunatic goes towards a chemical irritant? I did when I was in the Army. I volunteered and then we were like, okay, now you got to go in this chemical,
Starting point is 00:22:38 you know, this little hut and we're going to burn CS and make your eyes water. And we're like, no, no, no. But secretly we're like, if I do that, I'm pretty cool. And you went towards it too. Now there's a reason. We're trying to document what's going on in these conflicts. So I was in Brazil.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I've been in a bunch of different conflicts in the US, you know, riots and stuff. Brazil, substantially more brutal. And the gist of the story was in the US, I see all of these activists, all these lefties getting probably the lowest grade CS smoke I've ever experienced in my life. And it's like your eyes are water.
Starting point is 00:23:08 CS for kids. It's the kids' bop of chemical irritants. Well, the police say it's not even tear gas. Oh, it's just smoke. Don't worry. But it is an irritant. It is tear gas. It's just the lowest grade.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And I see these people like coughing and gagging and crying and everything. When I was – this stuff is nothing. When I was in Brazil, they used like the-tier military-grade stuff that was so intense. The guy I'm with has got just snot pouring out of his face, and he's braving through it because he's been in actual war. His eyes are swollen. I'm sitting there. I ripped my sweaty sock off, shoved it in my mouth, and we run through the smoke to keep filming. The Brazilian rioters, they did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:23:40 These people have seen real hardship and real conflict. Oh, yeah. These American—they're soft, man. Americans are soft. See, that was the purpose. A lot of hard people did a lot of hard work to allow a generation not to have to do any of that. But the problem is human beings, it's like if you don't exercise, you get fat and lazy. But mentally, you also get kind of fat and lazy if you're not challenged.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That's why people do extreme sports, do skateboarding. You get screwed up skateboarding. You get hurt. And you don't do that because – I mean – but you do it anyway because it fills a need inside you. And I think some of the Antifa stuff is a little bit of that too. They want conflict. Yeah, but it's baby-proof conflict. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:33 They know the charges are going to get dropped. Yep. They know the cops are not going to shoot them. That's why we call it LARPing. It is. It's really funny. I was at one of these protests. It was a riot slash protest.
Starting point is 00:24:44 It was a riot because Antifa showed up and attacked people. But it was a bunch of it was like patriot prayers, a bunch of right wing groups singing religious songs in a park in a federal park in Portland. Antifa showed up with weapons and bricks, and they were they were chanting Nazi LARPers at the right wingers who didn't even pay attention to anything they were saying. The right wing group showed up, showed up literally to have an event to be religious. It was like a religious event. Antifa showed up thinking they were Nazis, accusing them of being live at LARP is live
Starting point is 00:25:10 action role play. And I'm talking to these people and I'm like, you realize they don't know or care about who you are or what you're doing. They're singing songs about Jesus. Literally, they were singing songs about Jesus and America. You guys have shown up dressed in black with weapons, thinking you're fighting in a war. You're live action role playing there's no war it's just it's just like it's a 50 year old guy there with a beard and he's and he's he's talking about why he likes religion he's not talking about
Starting point is 00:25:33 oppressing anybody you guys have shown up to attack and beat people this is what they do they they need a purpose their lives are meaningless yes and so they found something to fill the void so they go around thinking they're fighting this grand battle as la resistance when in reality the cops are like, these dumb kids.
Starting point is 00:25:50 The charges get dropped. They get told to go home. At a certain point, you've got to punish the kids. You know what I mean? And I'm not saying lengthy prison sentences or beatings
Starting point is 00:25:59 or anything like that. I'm saying at a certain point, you arrest them, you charge them, and then they get, you know, two weeks in jail or something or a month in jail, whatever the penalty is, for burning down buildings and smashing windows. Right now, it's baby-proofed. It's baby-proofed.
Starting point is 00:26:14 They know they're not going to get hurt. And what really chaps me is watching what's happening with the Capitol Hill people from January 6th. Yeah, they're getting the bricks thrown at them. They're getting the book thrown at them, and then guys in Portland are getting tossed out. There's got to be one standard. You can't have two. It is unsustainable to have two standards.
Starting point is 00:26:37 History teaches that. For God's sake, people, don't flush what we have here down the toilet for your short-term gain. No, no, no, no. You don't understand. See, all these dumb people who go around LARPing don't realize they're the useful idiots for those that want the system torn down by any means necessary. That's their intent. And they're built up with them in charge.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yes. But it's not so much like, you know, I know many of these people. I've spoken with them during Occupy Wall Street. The way they described it was they said we want to flip the pyramid over. Most people, when they hear that, make a very simple assumption. You have the pyramid with the wealthy on top and on the bottom is the working class. You flip it over and now the working class are on top. You know what I said?
Starting point is 00:27:21 If you took a stack of bricks in the shape of a pyramid and flipped it over, it'll crumble into a crude pyramid. Yes. It'll crumble into a pile of bricks with one of the working class on top. And they went, exactly. That's going to be us. Yeah, that's going to be us.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Me and my pals. So they're not talking about taking the system and they're quite literally talking about burning everything you hold dear to the ground and then standing on top of the rubbles and yelling at you
Starting point is 00:27:44 to go fetch them water and food. They know the end result of this will be total chaos and destruction. They want it because to them, being the king of chaos is better. It's a higher standard of living than they are as a working class individual. So maybe there's, you know, hundreds of millions of working class people in this country. They don't care. They think that they'd be better off doubling their net worth if that they would make themselves the richest people in the country with a net worth of 100 bucks if it meant they were the
Starting point is 00:28:11 richest person in the world. They would destroy everything just to be on top of everybody else. It is absolute corruption and drive for power. No, I think you're correct. And I also think that they have not thought this through particularly well. There are, you know, history is rife with examples of people push too far. And right now we have a system where people still believe in the system at essence. People are still using the court system.
Starting point is 00:28:43 They're still using the law. They're still appealing to the media. And it doesn't always work. It doesn't work the way it should. But it's not complete chaos yet. But boy, what if it was and people realized I've got nothing to lose? Then you start seeing really ugly potential stuff. And that's what we have to stop. But you know what? These Antifa types and far leftists actually will survive a lot better than your average American. Now, I don't
Starting point is 00:29:12 mean conservatives. Like, the conservatives who are paying attention to news, who know how to use guns, and know how to actually be out in the wilderness and do hard work, well, they're going to be in the top tier. Let's say the entire country breaks down for some reason, and it's just chaos. Survivalists're going to be in the top tier. Let's say the entire country breaks down for some reason, and it's just chaos. Survivalists are going to be the kings of the castle.
Starting point is 00:29:29 They've already got their castles. They already got their food. They don't need nothing from you, and they're armed to the teeth. You're going to have a series of conservative groups and ex-military who are going to be doing very, very well organizing. They've already got their friends. They've already got their training. They'll harden up, plus the militias. Regular liberals will be at the very bottom antifa will be above them these regular urban city types who've never fired a gun who've never grown food who just work in
Starting point is 00:29:54 their office job will have nothing no skill translatable to the real world in terms of survival it is uh you know i i remember reading Max Brooks' World War Z. It's a very entertaining book. Yeah. And there is a scene in there where a rich lady is being taught how to clean houses. And by her former maid. Right? The whole society is broken down into dystopian things.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Society is broken down and the maid is teaching this woman how to clean houses because everybody's got to have a skill because everybody's got to work okay you can't be a diversity consultant anymore you know we don't need any more gender studies teachers uh we need somebody who knows how to disinfect the toilet so people don't get sick field sanitation is an important thing and uh i i just that that just struck me a lot of these people rely on the framework of society that they're busy supporting the people undermining. That's right. And it's baffling to me. And look, I saw society break down in the L.A. riots. I was in Los Angeles with the Army for three weeks.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And I also saw what happened in Kosovo. And I know history. None of this is a surprise. Tell us about how the LA riots kicked off and what was going on. Why were you down there? Well, I was I had gotten out of the army. And I had sold all my guns back in Germany. And I was in a mistake. Well, in retrospect, I was living in Pasadena. And I went and joined the Cal National Guard, an infantry unit in Inglewood, which is it's a much nicer place than it was back in 1992. And the verdict came down from Simi Valley, where they acquitted the police officers. So Rodney King gets beaten.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Rodney King. Cops get off. Yeah. And trouble started. And I'm watching the news and I'm new to the unit. I call up, hey, are we getting mobilized? No, of course we're not getting mobilized. I go, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I knew enough about the Army to pack, but I didn't have a gun. So I'm like, damn. Okay. So I pack. Like an hour later, yeah, we're mobilizing. Get down here. So I got to drive into South Central. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:09 No gun. And I have a Chevy Beretta. Not a Beretta pistol. Beretta car. And I drive up to this LAPD roadblock. The guy's got a Remington 870 shotgun. He comes up to me. He goes, what the hell are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:32:26 I go, I got to go to my army unit. He goes, what, you got a gun? I said, no. He said,
Starting point is 00:32:30 you still want to go in there? I said, not really, but I don't have a choice. He goes, drive real fast. Stuff's burning. So boom,
Starting point is 00:32:36 I drive in and all, most of my guys were from South Central and they were all packed. The army in its finite wisdom. they had a bunch of guns right they had their own and were they like here you go buddy uh well i believe me there i saw more guns there than i'd ever seen in my life uh all the military ammo had been centralized at one location because it's easier to count that way a little hard to distribute but uh everybody had guns uh and uh you know we we went out on the street very soon thereafter and uh three weeks and it was uh it was very ugly and i was in the battalion commander's vehicle and we drove around and it was uh it was an ugly scene but there but there there was no
Starting point is 00:33:20 law and order i mean all the things we take for granted were just completely gone. Things were burning. People were scared. You had the Koreans on the roofs with their rifles. They knew how to regulate. Now we're hearing because there's this rise in hate crimes against Asians. Asians are getting
Starting point is 00:33:39 armed like crazy right now. Good. I support every American owning firearms. That's the legend of the Roof Koreans. The Rooftop Koreans. Yeah, in the LA riots. Did you see any of that stuff? I don't remember. I don't think I was
Starting point is 00:33:51 in Koreatown. Right. I lived in Koreatown briefly. It's crazy. Crazy to imagine this. Like, I would go for frozen yogurt. I couldn't imagine someone shooting from the roof.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Well, remember, all these guys were rock soldiers, right? They're Republic of Korea. Everybody in Korea does a tour in the military. That's right. And they're republic of korea that everybody everybody in korea does a tour in the military so these and they're tough dudes i mean they're they're a real military they don't play games you've seen these photos the dude's got got a cigarette and he's holding the rifle
Starting point is 00:34:14 yeah he had a uh a me 14 a cigarette just smiling and it's like these and they all had military training and they did not play nope and uh people, OK, maybe we don't try and knock off this liquor store. Frankly, I think every American look, if you are a adult, healthy American citizen who is inclined to do it, because I understand people who have moral issues about weapons and violence. I don't in that way. I'm not a I'm not a pacifist but if you do i give you a pass but i think everybody else uh needs to have uh firearms and sufficient training to be able to defend themselves their family their community and their constitution yeah this is a i also think everybody ought to know basic medical stuff how do you stop the bleeding how do you do cpr how do you do a
Starting point is 00:35:00 heimlich maneuver i think look as citizens we just we don't even we we seem to think everything can be outsourced bro um we have become jelly donuts we we used to i does the average person know how to do cpr does the average person know how to tend to a bleed do a tie a tourniquet, any kind of basic survival medical fighting in any capacity. I watch these videos of people getting into fights and I'm like, what is he doing? They're just like cartoon versions
Starting point is 00:35:34 of fighting because people don't know the basics of defense of anything. And this is not about being aggressive and going out and causing trouble. This is being able to do your duty as a citizen to have order and safety in society. If you go to a car wreck, I carry a ready bag in my car, right? So I got stuff. I got tourniquet. I got the blood, the bleeding stop gauze stuff, some Israeli packet. I mean, if I
Starting point is 00:36:03 have to do something, look, not i'm not an emt but you know if you've got a sucking chest wound i'll probably be able to keep you alive till the emts get you there do you know why you should carry around a first aid kit sometimes it rains we know it rains yes sometimes this rain causes car crashes yes it actually rains quite a bit yes it actually causes quite a bit of car crashes yes you never know when it's going to be you your friend or someone you stumble upon and you know i look at these disasters we've seen just with the with the weather in texas and i'm wondering how many of these people just had no idea because we are so soft yes that
Starting point is 00:36:39 everything's taken care of for us we have we have nothing to worry about anymore have you seen the movie wally the little robot cleaning up the earth, right? And the big fat humans are in those floating chairs doing nothing, and they're confused. The guy thinks the book is called Manuel. It's his manual. He can barely even read. It's idiocracy, man. We are weakening ourselves to the point
Starting point is 00:36:58 where we will regret it because we are in a golden age, or we're coming out of one, where everything was comfortable and we're wealthy and it's just energy everywhere, super cheap. We have the summation of human knowledge in our pockets. We argue with strangers and look at cats on a moment's notice. And for this, we have distracted ourselves to the point where a fire could start in our homes, which is fairly common, and then people will freak out, spin in circles, confused as to what to do. Or my favorite, one more thing. In the Ferguson riots.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I'm in the Ferguson riots and I hear gunshots. The first thing I do, hit the deck. I look to my right. My camera guy all ran in the ground and I'm like, good man. And then I saw that video from CNN where the woman is live and they're asking what's going on. You hear gunshots and she goes, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. And she's just wiggling her arms in the air like she has no idea. I'm like, lady, get behind a building. What are you doing? And then she runs
Starting point is 00:37:50 into a gangway between two buildings. And I'm like, it is remarkable they send these people out on the streets. I've watched so many journalists hear gunshots go off and go, those gunshots? And everyone's on the ground. And I'm like, bro, at least you can say when in Rome, right? If you watch people hit the ground after a bang goes off and you're not doing that, maybe there's something you need to understand about what these people in the community understand. They probably know a little better. And I like the way that you mentioned Rome because see any parallels? And it's not a perfect parallel. But the Romans were the height of uh height of
Starting point is 00:38:27 civilization and when they were great in the early uh in the uh republic period in the early uh empire you know it was regular citizens who went out and made up their army it was affluent citizens you actually had a property qualification to become a soldier. You were invested in it. And you would go out and you would leave your farm and you would be gone for 10 years campaigning against Hannibal or whoever. And there was greatness. And then that stopped and they started saying, well, maybe Flavius, why should I go? We'll just get Hans from across the Rhine.
Starting point is 00:39:08 He'll come. We'll pay him a few ducats, and he'll do our fighting for us. And pretty soon there was, you know, Germanic empires. Yep. And then when the conflict actually comes, instead of being like Spartansans you know like king leonidas killing the messenger and kicking him into the pit they became the flailing cnn journalists going oh they're coming they have spears what do we do and almost quite literally when attila came they sent they sent like the uh the you know a roman priest out with a bunch of gold to talk him out
Starting point is 00:39:41 of it which he managed to do strangely well enough. So talking about the LA riots, think about the people there who just took. Think about when everything broke down, who the people were who just went and took whatever they wanted. Those people understood survival, and when there was no rule of law, they said, I don't care, it's me or you.
Starting point is 00:39:59 So they're going to go out and do whatever they want. Yeah. It's interesting. I think if you look at a city like Los Angeles, imagine the Chinese take down our water system and our logistics system. Suddenly the water pumps stop. The sewage system stops because they go in and they wreck the computer code. And the logistics system stops, So you're getting no food. 10, 12 million people with nothing to drink and nothing to eat.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And you know what they're going to do? Oh, my God. They're going to eat each other. Yeah, that's right. No, I mean, literally. They will be drinking each other's blood in three, four days. People don't get this, man. New York, 2.5 million people on manhattan island
Starting point is 00:40:45 when when if the water shuts down and it's and it's shut down like there was a power outage when sandy hit and things were very very disastrous it was scary it wasn't as bad it was only a couple weeks but i remember lines out the door of the bodegas and they had two big guys with like baseball bats standing in front of the buildings in front of these bodegas because there was no electricity it was all cash exchange yep everything that was perishable perished and so you had lukewarm water and gatorades and things like that you could buy the dry goods you could buy or the canned goods but imagine if it was sustained for longer than that um things would get very scary very quickly uh you know I still tend to keep my cars fueled.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah. I mean, if it starts getting halfway to empty, I'm like, eh, I just did yesterday. But it's just, you know, I remember the wildfires in California, which we've had numerous stories of this. I commanded two battalions during the 2007 ones. What happens if you live in these areas and your car is on, you know, an eighth of a tank and a fire breaks out. Yeah. You die. You die.
Starting point is 00:41:48 That's why you keep your car fueled. That's why you keep your electric car charge. If you have an electric car. And, and I mean, this, this stuff isn't super hard. It's just not internalized because we've never had to worry about these
Starting point is 00:42:02 problems, but the problems will come to you eventually. And I think that's why they're coming bro i think that's why the covid thing is people's i think they are excited about it i mean look they don't want 500 000 people to die but you know it's kind of there's a little risk not much i mean if you're healthy you're 99.5 percent gonna survive life's boring life's boring. Life's boring. Now it's exciting. I've got to wear a mask. I remember going into Trader Joe's and my beautiful wife was with me. And we're looking around at people taking stuff off the shelves.
Starting point is 00:42:35 They're not going crazy, but they're loading up and the shelves were getting empty. And it was a little scary. I wasn't like terrified, but it was like, okay, you know, I'm intense. I'm intense. Other people, but people were excited about it. And they were actually behaving very well. And there were a lot of good humor. But you know, it's something different. It's something new. I feel more alive. When I was in the riots, when I was in the war, even though I – look, I was so far in the rear after FedEx bullets to hit me. I literally ran a heavily armed car wash. So I'm not trying to come along as Pete Buttigieg or Dick Blumenthal or any of the war heroes.
Starting point is 00:43:16 But when you're in a situation like that, when you're part of this kind of massive event that's historical and there's this little element of danger in it it's exciting yep and you you remember it and it's i'm not gonna call it fun but god i wouldn't have missed it for the world that's what uh drives a lot of journalism you know the reason i wanted to travel around covering these stories was to experience these major historical moments and i always tell people like look i've been skateboarding my whole life. I'm an adrenaline junkie. I used to jump off buildings when I was like 16. So you tell me I can go into a conflict zone
Starting point is 00:43:52 and it's meaningful work that's important to a lot of people and you can share their story and tell the world what's happening. And you're running full speed. You're like, it's intense. It makes you feel like what you're doing matters. It gives you a feeling of risk or danger.
Starting point is 00:44:06 So you get a reward, you know, mental reward after you've made it through these things. And many of them, I didn't go into war. I wasn't in anything like you were. You know, you say you were in the car wash. Well, I was in civil unrest and civil conflict. Granted, a revolution here and there and some pretty dangerous neighborhoods. I was in the favelas in Brazil. I had some Turkish anarchists hold up a Moltov cocktail to my face threatened me but not in anything where it was like enemy
Starting point is 00:44:28 factions who would kidnap and murder me it was mostly like i'd get beat up and thrown out or whatever but it was it's it's exhilarating yeah and it's and i i think people need something like that i think they seek it i think think they want it. I think there are a lot of people who don't want this to end because it also excuses a lot of things. If you're one of those depressos, I'm not staying at home because I can't force myself to go out and socialize. I'm staying at home because I've got to save lives. It's an excuse. It's an excuse and it empowers them. And God god and you hear these people and all it is talking about the vaccines vaccines vaccines vaccine okay i i had covid i caught it
Starting point is 00:45:11 working for the president in nevada um and uh uh it was uh it was like a bad cold not bad cold an okay cold in terms of the severity of in terms of severity now there are other people who who died from it and it could hurt people and of course as soon as you get it right as soon as you're yeah i got covid oh i had this friend whose friend was a 21 year old triathlete and he got him two days later he spontaneously combusted so i'll clarify just for the the youtube people who are listening you're talking about how it felt yes the death rate and i'll clarify because they just deleted one of uh crowder's videos for this the death rate is substantially worse than a cold or the flu oh no but but they deleted my experience of it was no people die from this thing there's
Starting point is 00:46:01 500 000 people according to statistics have died from it is a real thing it is it is also if you're in good health you're probably gonna make it 99.95 percent for people under 70 yeah and then when you factor in 70 year olds it's 97.5 percent survival yeah so that is uh so it's something it is it is it is something it's it's it's definitely worse than the flu yes primarily impacting seniors and people with comorbidities. Yes. But man, do they love to censor anybody the moment they step out of line on this one. I'm just telling you my personal experience with it.
Starting point is 00:46:37 But I think a lot of people... You were mentioning the vaccines, getting the vaccine. Yeah. I mean, people talking about the vaccine all the time. OK. And I've been told, you know, even though I had it, I should go get the vaccine. So people are probably not. The problem is that Fauci has been telling people it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:46:59 And that that well, that's that. That seems to me to be super wrongheaded. Yeahheaded if you actually want people to take the vaccine. And it doesn't make any sense. It's either effective or it isn't. What I've seen says it's effective. So why is he down? Even Trump thinks it's effective. But Fauci is telling people that, oh, we don't know, so you just might as well stay home, lock your door.
Starting point is 00:47:23 You know, he could do a better job. I want to talk about the political conflict because you mentioned that – we were basically talking about people are not prepared for when things break down. Yes. If chaos erupted, you were in the L.A. riots. I mean you were in war. I've seen my fair share of riots. I'll tell you this. Well, look, I was so far in the back I had to watch flashes on the horizon. That's more than most people have ever seen. The last thing I want to
Starting point is 00:47:49 do is come across as Mr. Mr. Macho comeback. Again, I ran decontamination platoon. We did a very good job. I was not a hero. I didn't get shot at. I didn't shoot anybody. Well, there you go. But I want to get into the stuff that's going on with the Democrats. So we have a couple stories I want to highlight. And we'll go through this quickly because I want to get into the stuff that's going on with the Democrats. So we have a couple of stories I want to highlight. And we'll go through this quickly because I want to highlight the political turmoil, not necessarily the Democrats or the Republicans, just the instability. So we have the story from CNN. House Democrats weigh ejecting GOP winner of contested Iowa race,
Starting point is 00:48:18 dismissing comparisons to Trump's effort to overturn the election. Quite literally, this is a Republican who won. The state certified she won. A this is a Republican who won. The state certified she won. A bipartisan panel certified this Republican won, and the Democrats have voted to move forward with a review to see if they will eject a Republican sitting member of Congress who duly won her election and replace her with a Democrat. We also have 73 Democrats sign efforts to expel Marjorie Taylor Greene from the House after she's already been removed from her committees.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Now we have them going after Brett Kavanaugh with Vanity Fair writing. Could Brett Kavanaugh be booted from the Supreme Court? We talk a lot about politics. I get it. But how much of this is, oh, let's have an argument about who did who should be in the Supreme Court. How much of this is our system is completely gone? It's broken.
Starting point is 00:49:06 The moment they said, I know he's already in the Supreme Court. Let's reopen investigation anyway. I know she's literally a duly elected representative. Let's remove her now. At what point do we just say we have no elections if they're going to be doing this after the fact? Once again, this relates to what we've been talking about for the last hour or so, which is the complete destruction of our institutional norms for short term convenience. It's always short term convenience.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Oh, well, Donald Trump, he's he's literally Hitler. So we've got to get rid of this a civil military separation for 204 years. We'll just spark the biggest crisis in civil military relations since MacArthur because because because Tucker said things we think are mean. did say mean things though you know and those and and and we as very soft delicate cookie dough americans can't handle mean words you know words are violence at least that's what they've been telling me now so when i i mean look at us we're sitting here talking about you know you literally having dealt with the la riots and having deployed and served in the military much more than i can speak for uh but i've been in riots as well And I'm looking at a bunch of people that think words are violence. It's like, okay, I watched someone get shot. I personally got shot by a ricochet of a pepper ball, which sprayed my face with plastic bits and went my eyes and took me down a bit. I've run through walls of tear gas in Turkey and Brazil and the
Starting point is 00:50:40 United States. And I'm not going to pretend like I'm some super soldier. I'm just some dude who's actually seen some stuff. But if I've seen that and we've got one, the political conflict, the institutional breakdown, our military is freaking out about Gadsden flags, every little institution, like you mentioned, they're breaking apart. Confidence in the system is breaking. Moral frameworks are, there's two different total moral frameworks. It feels like, in my opinion, we are heading towards, well, what should we call it, a prepper's dream? What they've – I mean, I'll tell you this. I see these Twitter posts from preppers, and they post how they're laughing. I remember I was – I drove at the beginning of COVID. I drove across the US.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I went to a gas station, and it was the toilet paper craze. And I asked the lady at the counter and we were in Arizona. And she goes, oh, we're not worried about any of that. We're preppers. We got months worth of everything stocked up and always have.
Starting point is 00:51:36 So we laugh at everybody when this happens. Yep. So I want to try and keep it wrapped up and, you know, just stemming into the political conversation. Vanity Fair is actually asking if they could boot Brett K kavanaugh because who was it was it a senator was it white house said the fbi didn't actually do a legitimate review it was fake so they're trying to reignite
Starting point is 00:51:56 yeah they said that a lot of people were trying to send tips to the fbi about kavanaugh but apparently chris ray was classmates with Kavanaugh, and they're both members of the Federalist Society. So Wray didn't actually do the investigation. They're trying to get pretext, it seems, to remove a Supreme Court justice, to remove two GOP reps. They already took Marjorie Taylor Greene off of her committees. I bring this up just to talk about the institutional decay, to say, like, at what point does this stop and do we recover or is this just the the crumbling of the infrastructure that leads to the chaos there's there's going to be one or one or two directions either it continues and there's chaos or people
Starting point is 00:52:35 say whoa stop now we saw uh that uh young lady canceled uh today a very liberal lady canceled a a woman of a leftist woman of color was fired or she was forced to resign. And Jonathan Swan got on Twitter and said this is terrible, this is wrong. Of course he got ratioed with people going this is what you wanted. Yeah. This is what you've been cheering.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Either people stop it or it continues. What is rewarded you get more of. And so far this stuff has been rewarded. If it goes on, I mean, it's ugly. Look, I've got five novels of America falling apart that I sell a ton of. People's Republic. Go get your copy today.
Starting point is 00:53:19 People were actually commenting. They said that one person commented they read your book and loved it. And it's eerily similar to what's happening. It worries them. It kind of freaks me out because when I wrote the first one, People's Republic in 2016, it was a warning. I love this country. I love what we have here. I've lived overseas for years. I've seen places that don't work.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And it and it rips me up to see a squandering the legacy we've been granted. We didn't earn it. We didn't build it here legacy we've been granted. We didn't earn it. We didn't build it here. We were handed it. We need to maintain it. We're not doing that. Sounds like Obama. Remember, he's like, you didn't build that.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Well, in this case, it's correct. Yeah, we did not build these. We inherited it. We could have made them better. But, you know, we've already gone down that road. So I wrote these books and I was thinking, you know, what's the wildest thing, you know, people,
Starting point is 00:54:07 what craziness, people being arrested for being transphobic, you know, thought there was that, there was that guy who got arrested because he, I think it was in Canada. That was Canada. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 He refused to refer to his daughter as his daughter. Yeah. Yes. Well, this is complicated. You know, it's, it's a court battle between the parents and the court as to whether or not the child has the right to be.
Starting point is 00:54:31 The 13-year-old, if I believe. Yeah, maybe 14. So the issue is, if it was a clear-cut case where we had quotes from a, you know, trans boy, a transgender, you know, 14-year-old who said specifically they were, then I can talk about what that person was saying. We have a legal battle. When you have a judge saying, I don't care what your legal argument is about your children, you must say this or you know what I mean? Seems like they've already decided. Right. So and we saw that other legal battle in Texas. Well, that's, you know, again, institutional decay when but back to your book, I don't want
Starting point is 00:55:02 to derail from your time up at the book. Go buy the damn book. All five of them. You were mentioning that people were getting arrested for crazy things. Yeah, they were getting arrested. And I write this stuff. And it starts happening. And I'm thinking successively more crazy stuff as I'm writing the subsequent books. And it's happening.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And people write me going, this is all happening. And it's like, I don't want this this to happen this is not a how-to i'm not for any of this but they don't listen it it's this institutional decay look what institution defends us regular people now can you go to the courts and be sure that you're going to get a fair shake can you go to the fbi can you go to congress can you go to the media can you go to academia academia is going to tell you you're a you're you know you're a white supremacist which was really public uh puzzling to the guy who drives a truck for a living when he's being told by a guy who makes four times as much you know uh uh doing diversity articles uh that that he's oppressing sounds like you're saying
Starting point is 00:56:04 we already lost. I don't think we've ever. You made it. You made a really scary point. I'll tell you that. Think about this for everybody listening. Do you feel like if you went to court, if you called the police,
Starting point is 00:56:14 if you called the FBI for any for any issue, do you think they would actually have your back? Would they support you as an American citizen? Would you get a fair shot? Would you get a fair shot? See, the beauty of a Democratic Republic, a free country, is maybe you lose the election, but you're like, well, OK, I lost, but I lost. I made my case.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Better luck next time. Or I went to court. I didn't like the way the jury came out but i got a chance to make my piece and i think it was fair right that's that's the basis and you don't have that youtube has a rule that if you say something specific in relation to donald trump in the election they'll delete your video and give you a strike donald trump's made statements that have been removed from youtube and his own speeches have gotten people's news outlets like Right Side Broadcasting Network out of strike, I believe, simply for broadcasting
Starting point is 00:57:10 Trump's speech. Yet, if you relay what the Democrats have said about Rita Hart in Iowa, which is in many ways similar to what Donald Trump said, you are fine. You are allowed to advocate for the Democrats have called for contesting a certified election. That's OK on YouTube. That's that's that's that's the Silicon Valley bias right there. Well, it's hugely biased. And I think it's another example of short term thinking, because right now, well, it's such an emergency. We've got to do this exceptional thing. Of course, the exception becomes the rule. When it becomes the rule, it eventually becomes the rule for everybody.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And the worm eventually turns. And someday they could be scratching their heads going, gosh, I don't seem to have a lot of friends left. I, look, I don't think we've ever lost until our hearts stop beating. I am always an optimist. I understand that what we had in America and what I think we're on the verge of losing if we don't watch it is so much greater than what's been in any other culture, any other place, certainly any other place I've been. There's something about it. It's so powerful. It's so right. You know, and I'm not one of those
Starting point is 00:58:33 guys who talk the right side of history. Oh, God. But what we what we're selling, freedom, civil rights, individuality, free enterprise, the rule of law. This is great stuff. And people have sacrificed a huge amount for it. And people from other countries, like my wife, come here to get that. It's falling apart, though. Look, it's running ragged, but we're not done yet. And I will never give up as long as I'm alive.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I will never give up and just say oh we're done no i agree i agree i will certainly use their rules against them because some people need to learn through pain i guess the issue is when the right does anything that the left does they're held to a very very strict standard if conservatives go out and protest they call it you know a far right insurrection of course revolt with the and protest, they call it, you know, a far right insurrection revolt with the left. Doesn't the call it a peaceful protest? Of course. And we got to understand that, you know, the media and the establishment are our opponents.
Starting point is 00:59:33 I think that's one reason you see fewer conservatives being canceled now is that it no longer works on us. We have enough of our own outlets. It's not perfect. You can get canceled off YouTube. You might have to go someplace else. But we can still get our message out there. And they can't cancel us. So they're turning inward. Yeah, let's get a little optimistic
Starting point is 00:59:56 I suppose. We have this story from the New York Times. Well, I'll say fairly optimistic. Teen Vogue editor resigns after fury over racist tweets. The hiring of Alexi McCammond, who was supposed to start the Condé Nast publication next week, drew complaints because of racist and homophobic
Starting point is 01:00:12 tweets she had posted a decade ago. Alexi McCammond is a black woman. I believe the news calls her a female person of color or whatever, but I believe she's black. And she got cancelled for being racist against Asians, which is a fracturing in the woke theories,
Starting point is 01:00:32 the critical race theory, because Asians are supposed to be the ultra-privileged. It's like, they say in the SATs, for instance, Asians have to score higher than white people. They have to score like a 1,300 or so compared to like 1,000 or whatever for than white people. They have to score like a 1300 or so compared to like a thousand or whatever for a white person. Well, now, you know, we used to joke
Starting point is 01:00:49 on the show that I was double white for being part Asian, so I'm like double privileged. Now I don't know what I'm supposed to think, because apparently they're saying that the hate crimes are against the Asian community, and this woman's getting fired for 10-year-old tweets. So the reason I say optimistic, they can't cancel every conservative no especially
Starting point is 01:01:05 when some of these people are independent yeah when uh when you have people who have their own youtube channels or work for conservative outlets who will never get fired what do they do well they're like they're like vampires you know they have a blood lust and they're searching for someone to softest target but you know the are hardened, have their shields up and are defending their communities. So they're turning on themselves in desperation. Exactly. You go for the soft target. Look, I get on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I say, I get the leftists attacking me. So what? I don't care. I don't care. The people who publish me don't care. The people who buy my books don't care. Probably sells more books, to be honest. Maybe. publish me don't care the people who buy my books don't care probably sells more books to be honest uh maybe and and by the way the uh uh battling hierarchy of oppressions was one of the topics in in the books the uh flag of the people's republic america splits into two countries
Starting point is 01:01:56 flag of the people's republic keeps changing they keep adding stripes and it's like a running joke through it except it it's Except it's like real. Well, they... You can't satirize these people. You just report. Have you seen... So there was the rainbow flag. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Then they added the black and brown stripe for black and brown solidarity. And now they added the trans triangle to it. So it's just the flag is becoming... Is a triangle outrank a stripe? I guess it's like. I don't know. I mean, I don't know who.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Who's the most depressed? A mirror mirror on the wall. Who's the most depressed of us all? You know? It's so. God. The thing is, even I fall into making the mistake of calling it stupid. It is stupid.
Starting point is 01:02:41 But that's beside the point. It's insidious. Yeah. I'm not going to be able to. Look, you can't reason them out of it. You can't sit there and go, you know, that's beside the point. It's insidious. Yeah, I'm not going to be able to talk. Look, you can't reason them out of it. You can't sit there and go, you know, it's stupid to hold people's immutable characteristics as defining them. It's stupid.
Starting point is 01:02:56 It's also immoral and wrong on every level. You're religious, secular, every level. It's terrible. Now believe what I do. And they're like, no, I get power from it. Screw you. Or you're not in the tribe, so I reject whatever it is you're saying without evidence. It's agonizing.
Starting point is 01:03:16 But I think more and more people are coming around on it. 30 years ago, we were talking about politically correct stuff. Yeah. I remember Bill Maher, politically incorrect on abc got fired for being politically correct about 2000 in 1986 or 7 i was an editor of uh the uc san diego california review which was a conservative paper and we had a picture of one of us sitting there going here my friend pete is drinking a glass of politically incorrect coors beer because the Coors guy gave money to the right wing thing. It was being used, you know, 35 years ago. And, but it was kind of a niche thing for conservatives.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Conservatives whined about it. I mean, it's right to whine about it, but they're still whining. Now it's infecting normal people's lives and they don't like it. And you saw with President Trump, he got more hispanic voters oh yeah because like hispanic male guys are like i i didn't sign up for this
Starting point is 01:04:10 you know i yeah i wonder for this garbage i wonder if the the the infighting people canceling themselves i'll tell you this this woman resigned right this alexia mccammon resigned it's worse than that uh we reported this before, but a seven figure advertising deal was pulled because the employees were complaining about their new boss. So they the company effectively canceled itself. You understand? Like, this is amazing. Millions of dollars. I don't. You know, the thing that really got me was the New York Times with Tom Cotton. Oh, yeah. Where you had a senator writing an article, which I disagreed with, by the way. I actually wrote my law review article on the use of military force in support of
Starting point is 01:04:50 civilian civil support operations. I'm largely against it. I think the military is unsuited in most cases when it's not an emergency. Neither here nor there. He writes an article that says we should use these guys, we should use military forces to suppress some of the BLM rioting, Antifa rioting. Okay, a position about half of Americans take. He's a Republican. They run this thing. The news, the woke kids at the New York Times
Starting point is 01:05:15 go nuts. And if I was the editor and they marched into my office and said, you can't run this, I'd say, okay, you're at the New York Times. We run editorials from everybody. If you can't run this, I'd say, okay, you're at the New York Times. We run editorials from everybody. If you don't like it, get out. If you do like it, get out, do your job.
Starting point is 01:05:33 And the next one of you who brings up this crap to me is going to find himself walking the streets. Get out. I got to stop. I can't do it. I got to stop you right there. If it's me and someone comes in and says, that op-ed you published, you need to get rid of it, I would say, okay, you're all fired.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Everyone in the office right now, you've just lost your job. I'll call security to escort you out of the building. You're nicer than me because I would give them a learning opportunity. I would try and teach them not to be idiots. But if they didn't do it, I would fire them. Granted, I wouldn't hire them in the first place. Well, that's also true. But for the sake of the hypothetical, the thing is they rolled over.
Starting point is 01:06:10 The guys in power rolled over. Why? They had the power. What are these, boomers? All you got to do is say no. These guys have a glass jaw. Hey, hey, millennials, screw you. We're not doing any of that.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And if I hear about it again you can you know you could do the person who's like you know speaking you say you're fired anyone else anyone else want to be fired all right you know you guys believe that look you guys believe this is so important let's see some principles i'm not gonna pound the table yeah how many are you gonna quit put on the table and then they'd come back and be like we need a union to to fight against these things and uh that's because they can't they can't negotiate for themselves and stand up for their own ideas have you noticed how the uh new woke unions tend to not support basic worker like old school union oh we want you know we want vacation and we want health care dental Dental plan, dental plan.
Starting point is 01:07:07 The old school Teamster kind of stuff. Now it's all, we got this whole woke agenda we've got to enforce, blah, blah, blah. Unions aren't about unions anymore. No, no, no. Did you see the United Auto Workers Union? They're outraged. Ford is going to be moving some of their new car projects to Mexico. And it was really funny. My favorite line from Ford was they were like, well, things have changed since, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:31 circumstances changed since our last contract negotiation. And do you know what that thing that changed was? Yes. Who was it? It was the president. Right. Who was it? I said it right away.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Now it's that withered old zombie who is in hock. Understand that the big corporations tend to be part of the liberal establishment, the Democrat establishment. You know, this whole I saw they were, you know, Warren's. So now we got to have a billionaire tax. I'm like, let's do it. Let's tax the billionaires. You think why? Why, again, would I spend a look? I'm a Republican. I'm like, let's do it. Let's tax the billionaires. You think why again would I
Starting point is 01:08:05 spend? Look, I'm a Republican. I'm not just a conservative. I am a Republican because I believe there's got to be a party of the right. It's the Republicans for better and mostly worse. Mostly worse. But why should we as Republicans spend an iota of our political capital
Starting point is 01:08:21 defending the financial interests of people who hate us and use their money to screw us against our own financial interests. Let them burn. You want a 20% surtax on billionaires? Rock and roll. Yeah. Mackenzie Bezos funds a ton of critical race theory. George Soros. Man, conservatives don't shut up about that guy. So when I hear that stuff, I'm like, who cares about billionaires?
Starting point is 01:08:51 So I tweet out, you know, like tax the rich and all these. I saw that. All these lefties are like based Tim, like Tim's a lib. And I'm like, dude, I've always talked about progressive taxes. Tax the billionaires. I don't care. There's like how many of them in this country? A handful.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Well, look. Oh, there's 300. Look, if I wanted to get back to my basic conservative principles from when I used to read National Review unironically, and God help me, Weekly Standard before it became a cheesy cruise brochure. Look, I would say,
Starting point is 01:09:22 look, I want a smaller government. I want people paying less taxes because that stars government that's a principle but I have another conservative principle and it's a more important one it's I will accept no principle that makes me less free and
Starting point is 01:09:38 unfortunately you get all these conservatives well you know it's a private company can't do nothing that sounds like the democrats right now well it's like yeah and it's like well yeah but i kind of don't like them screwing with me and if you use your power against me i'm going to use my power against them and uh if we're going to play the principles game i say they go first this is a screwing me the weirdest arguments you know i have with uh objectivists or libertarians. We had a river so polluted it started on fire.
Starting point is 01:10:10 What was it? There was a Cuyahoga River. Yeah, Cuyahoga and Cleveland. 70s, I think it was. And then we had a regulation to be like, okay, how about you can't dump that much pollution in the water? We got to regulate how much you're doing. Basically, all these different companies are saying, don't look at me. I only dumped, you know, a tiny fraction.
Starting point is 01:10:25 It's like, yeah, well, when all of you dump at the same time, it makes a big mess and bursts into flames. When our water is on fire, we got problems. That would be an indicator. So I've always, I grew up with this stuff. I've always been in favor of regulating companies that get out of control.
Starting point is 01:10:38 And I also believe in some form of regulation against government when it's out of control. The problem is the government has a monopoly on force. So how do you deal with a broken government? That's tough. However, I'm not going to ignore when billionaires are exploiting the system and taking advantage of the working class. My thing is, I don't care if you're a billionaire, bro.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Like, people talk about taxes. And I made a joke where I said, I said, tax the rich, right? And then a bunch of people were like, look in a mirror, bro. And then I quote tweeted myself, me and Bernie will share us. I said, no, I said, arrest the rich made a joke where i said i said tax the rich right and then a bunch of people were like look in a mirror bro and then i quote to myself me and bernie will share us all right so no i said arrest the rich as a joke and i was like me and bernie will share a cell i have uh i have a i'm writing my sixth book and i'll give you a preview i have a joke about there's a statue of bernie sanders the late bernie sanders because he he he passed away when he dropped his bong on some copies of socialist workers and it caught the house on fire. But the fire department went to the wrong mansion. And it's a sad thought.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Look, no, no one does better under communism than the cadre. Yeah. Right. I mean, you know, and there are a lot of Mensheviks running around Democrat Washington. A lot of these guys, it's like your own people are going to put you against the wall figuratively. They openly say these people tweet these things. I know that they look when I when I hear about Bernie Sanders, Bernie Sanders having multiple houses and millions of dollars. I'm like, I don't care. What are his principles? Is he in favor of working class people having rights or not? Well, arguably, you can say, yes, there's some ideological split, but it's fine.
Starting point is 01:12:13 OK, I think Bernie sold out in a lot of ways. But then I look at Soros, the Koch brothers, the Mercers, Jeff Bezos, Mackenzie Bezos, Tom Steyer, Michael Bloomberg. Why do these people get to shut down the voices of the working class with their massive wealth? And not only that, but the establishment that they embody has been a disaster to the American working class. I wrote another book, a nonfiction called Militant Normals, about normal people getting angry at what's happening. And I told the story of a guy who was a Marine. And he comes home, fictional, embellish it. But basically, he sees his job sent to another country. And a guy who looks like Mitt Romney drives up in a limousine and says, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:57 you guys, you can basically learn to code. Build some solar panels. Build some solar panels. Got to go. I got to be at the club. And why were Republicans allowing the heart and soul of our country to be screwed? They were being screwed. What is the principle that requires the impoverishment of the people who make up the American middle class, the one who built this country, feed it, fuel it, defend it.
Starting point is 01:13:25 And I don't see it. And I got to give Donald Trump credit for opening the eyes of a lot of people by saying what needed to be said. He's up there. There's one guy. He's one guy. There's 16 other guys who are all talking about basically the same stuff George Bush was talking about. And Donald Trump's talking about the real problems that people are talking about. Our jobs going away.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Our culture being hollowed out. wars that don't make any sense. Again, I'm not a pacifist by any means. But, you know, as I pointed out in my article today, you know, the military is pretty angry at Tucker Carlson. But Tucker Carlson has won as many wars as they have in the last 20 years. He's also lost fewer. That's right. And who pays that price? It's not the sons and daughters who go to Harvard, Westlake, and West L.A.
Starting point is 01:14:15 It's the paratrooper from Omaha. Hey, well, look, you know, we're really good at building infrastructure in Middle Eastern countries and really bad at building it here. Look, I'm driving around the car. What the hell? You know, the Afghanistan papers that the Washington Post published should have been a scandal on par with the Pentagon papers about the disaster in Vietnam. And it just kind of went poof. What were they? It basically talked about all our mistakes in Afghanistan after 20 years,
Starting point is 01:14:48 a war we have not won after 20 years, the waste of money, the waste of lives, the flawed strategy. It's been a disaster. And look, I was not, I wasn't against Iraq going in. And Iraq went really well for about two months. No follow through. Strategy is not just about winning one battle. Strategy is about achieving objectives, big objectives.
Starting point is 01:15:18 And there was no strategy. I mean, I literally got, they literally sent me to the Army War College to get me a degree in strategy. I must have made a mistake because I listened. You know, I mean, I took it seriously. And I'm looking at this. I'm going, OK, this via these things violate everything I was taught about strategy. And I just, you know, avoiding the hard questions when you have full colonels, you know, colonels, tomorrow you're going to brief us on America's greatest threat. You know, what is our greatest strategic threat?
Starting point is 01:15:53 And then the next day you will brief us on your strategy to address it. Basic, basic kind of war college-y thing. And this is a story somebody from a different war college gave, but it tracks with my own. The first day, 50% of the teams of colonels briefed climate change. The weather in 100 years was America's greatest strategic threat, according to guys who typically command 5,000 Americans. Wow. I mean, you're just like, what the hell? You know, look, an environment. Let's assume it's even true. Let's assume climate change isn't a giant hoax and a scam because it's one of those problems. It seems every solution happens to be exactly every policy prescription.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Its advocates always want it anyway. But that's that's an environmental factor. That is a factor in the situation. The correlation is not a threat. But that's an environmental factor. That is a factor in the situation, the correlation of forces. It's not a threat itself. It's a factor of the private industries. If we've got all of these different companies polluting and individuals driving cars, the military is not going to solve that. It's going to be legislative or it's going to be cultural.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Well, it's like what do you think the military ought to do? Not have M1 tanks because they bust out gas? No, no, no. They have to storm the beaches of, you know— Greenland? San Pedro and, you know, New York to, you know, shut down the importing of all these petrochemical-based products. And then they got to raid all of these car manufacturing plants. The military has nothing to do with this. No, it has nothing to do. And it should be its purpose should be to deter, defeat America's enemies in conventional and unconventional combat.
Starting point is 01:17:32 That's what it should be doing. And it's essentially it's become an unserious organization. When you when you're focusing on all this other woke stuff, that's not a serious military. And I get emails and communications from people who are in or recently out, and it's bad. And they're not focusing on warfighting. And I am terrified that one day I'm going to wake up and the Chinese are going to initiate their op plan on Taiwan, and our bases in Guam and Japan are going to be smoking ruins, and there's going to initiate their op plan on Taiwan and our bases in Guam and Japan are going to be smoking ruins
Starting point is 01:18:08 and there's going to be a carrier at the bottom of the South China Sea. I mean, I'm worried about that stuff. And you know what Biden's going to say? Trump's fault. Come on, man. Where's my slipper? Come on, man. That's it. Matlock marathon's on. Or he'll just be
Starting point is 01:18:23 sleeping. Who's in charge there anyway? Kamala. I think she's being iced out. Really? Yeah. But she's like doing the phone call with the world leaders, doing phone calls on behalf of Biden. I bet you she put that out.
Starting point is 01:18:40 You think Dr. Jill's going to let get get dr jill out of the white house now i i i think the 25th amendment uh i i i think there is a group that wants biden i think camilla wants camilla and i think if camilla could convince enough people to do the 25th amendment i think she would kurt it's comma la is it it's racist when you say it that way. I am indifferent. That was an actual news cycle. Yes, I saw that. I am indifferent to what she likes about her name. Is it Kurt or Cart? Cart.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Yeah. Anyway. But all I can say is, if I was Joe Biden and Kamala came up with a plate of cookies, let the dog test them. Give him to a dog first. Just wait.
Starting point is 01:19:28 The dogs are gone. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think, you know, looping it back to what we were talking about initially with Putin. It seems like there's a desperate attempt to not focus on China to make everything about Russia so that they don't have to worry about that. Maybe it's that they know they've already lost with China. It's hard and it's my what am I? Mike Pompeo say what?
Starting point is 01:19:52 Like a year ago, we've been infiltrated at every level by the Chinese Communist Party. Oh, that that is true. I mean, look at Disney. Hollywood's sucking up to him. Our industry sucks up to him. Well, where do you get your rare earth metals you know you could theoretically get them from basically anywhere but for some reason we just don't no we we don't uh we now also don't get our oil or our vitamin c or our antibiotics uh it's even our
Starting point is 01:20:19 masks are made in china you know we i hate using the word globalist because it, you know, brings up pictures of guys in basements somewhere, you know, with lots of post-its and tax. What is it? Crime web? Conspiracy web? Yeah. I mean, it's just nuts. But people who we may have mistaken, I bought into it too. A little bit. I thought that the Chinese might come around through free enterprise and slowly become more like us, not just in economics, but in individual free. It didn't work out that way. Guess I didn't understand. I guess a lot of us didn't understand the Chinese. But here's the difference. I've seen it ain't working and I've decided it's time to change course.
Starting point is 01:21:04 There are a few of us the people who still want to go on with the fantasy that if we only nice enough to china it'll be nice to us are not serious people yeah i think some of them are compromised i think there are a lot of people with business interests in china and they're and i'm not thinking oh well give me five thousand dollars I'll say whatever they want I'm thinking they gave me $5,000 these guys aren't that bad I mean just give me some money I think it is
Starting point is 01:21:33 a lot easier to address a problem that's not as problematic right like Russia it's like you know there's a talk about how cops will prefer to go after petty crime instead of serious crime because it's easier to deal with and it occupies their time so pulling over someone for blowing a stop sign versus running rushing full speed to what looks
Starting point is 01:21:55 like someone getting mugged it's like you know so there are complaints about things like that that when government approaches a problem they take the path of least resistance to make it seem like they're working well yeah i mean that's just human nature that's to be expected that's why you need exceptional people you know we we we we need a harry truman not a joe biden you know joe biden's like our buchanan huh is buchanan wait no not not buchanan wait was it buchanan yeah that was the guy leading up to the civil war yeah yeah yeah buchanan like the one of the weakest presidents we've ever had. Oh, terrible.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Yeah. And then we're going to have this weak president for several years, and then come 2024, people are going to be begging for someone like Trump again. Maybe it'll be Trump. You think Trump will run again? Maybe. I mean, what's it going to be, 78? Maybe it'll be DeSantis.
Starting point is 01:22:41 I think he's getting a little old. Yeah. And I think he'll prefer to be Kingmaker just my gut I don't know anything I think DeSantis uh I I saw DeSantis at CPAC uh he was better retail than I thought he'd be he's uh ex-military which is not a necessarily qualification but it might lead him to be a little less you know submissive to generals. He has done a great job in Florida. He has survived the media onslaught and shown how you do it. You never give in.
Starting point is 01:23:11 You're killing people. No, I'm not. I'm also not grabbing liberal girls breasts. He he he he's done OK. Yeah. I I I'm an unabashed fan of Rick Grinnell, who I know personally. He lives in my town. And I think he is an exceptional leader.
Starting point is 01:23:32 I would love to see a DeSantis Grinnell ticket. Wow. And it's kind of weird because this shows kind of the realignment. I mean, who would have thought a very cosmopolitan gay guy would have the support of, like, a military guy? I'm not the only one. Military guys are fanatics for Rick. Freedom wins. Liberty wins, right?
Starting point is 01:23:51 I hope so. Well, so no, no, listen. There was a tweet from Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks. He said something like the progressives always win in the end or something like that. Someone corrected him saying, no, it's liberty that wins. So what he was trying to say is you go back in time and you can see that these left wing causes, progressive causes have won out civil rights, etc. Only the problem is now that the left is rejecting civil rights. They're opposing individualism and freedom.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I also reject the whole John Lithgow and Footloose vision of conservatives through history. OK, we were not the ones who always said, no, you kids can't rock. Kevin Bacon, stop your strutting. It's I don't know how my side was somehow labeled as the side that didn't like free speech. They didn't like the ability to write what you want, say what you want, think what you want. It's great branding for the other side because it's all baloney. That's not what we're about. It's never been what we're about.
Starting point is 01:24:54 And I think certainly now that if you want to find the defenders of traditional liberal values, you're gonna have to or what have been labeled liberal values you you've got to go to the conservatives because the today's liberals don't believe in those things donald trump is uh what they call him a 90s democrat his his policies he's been he's been likened to bill clinton in a lot of ways not the worst ways actually no the worst ways by the democrats themselves yeah uh conveniently giving bill a pass donald trump's interesting because he is the guy on the right and i think he is on the right uh even though he had some views that are traditionally liberal but he's the guy who actually talked about what the base was talking about as opposed to what the bushes are talking about je as opposed to what the Bushes are talking about.
Starting point is 01:25:46 Jeb Bush would sit and talk to you about, you know, tax rates all day. And Trump would go, yeah, I want to put up a border wall so that some guy without insurance, some illegal alien with insurance doesn't wreck your car and leave you on the lurch. And people are like, yeah, my buddy's car got crashed into by an illegal alien. He didn't have insurance. And he got screwed over. Yeah. Trump talked about things that no one else would talk about.
Starting point is 01:26:14 Also because Trump is the ultimate immune to cancellation. He just doesn't care. Yeah. And I think the next president has to take not necessarily his positions and not necessarily all the things about Trump, not everything about Trump. But he has to take on the not caring. I think DeSantis is doing that. I'm always amused by people who say, you know, I like Donald Trump, but all that tweeting. It's like, you know, it's like going to a fixed price menu and asking for a substitution.
Starting point is 01:26:45 No, I don't want the twice-baked potato. I'd rather Baracalini. Okay, you get the potato. Okay, you can't have Donald Trump and all the things you like about Donald Trump without the mean tweets. It is of a whole. It is of a part. But it is the people who voted against him based on his mean tweets that hurt him in the end. I think they would vote against him anyway. Yeah, tweets tweets that that hurt him in the end i think
Starting point is 01:27:05 they would vote against him anyway yeah probably because the media just told him to but listen but listen if trump was strategically silent for even a short period of time he would have starved the media out look what's happening now he certainly would have but then he wouldn't be donald trump that's true because if i mean you know i just, you know, if only Donald Trump had all the good things about Donald Trump with none of the bad things, it would be great. Well, great. If you had all the good things about Kurt and none of the bad things, I'd be wonderful. Right, honey? Look at what she's nodding. There's a lot to look at when it comes to Ron DeSantis compared to Trump and the things that, you know, Trump was doing. So what I like about Trump,
Starting point is 01:27:43 the Abraham Accords were amazing. Oh, my gosh. Peace agreements. He ended. Decades long wars. 70 decades. I mean, my entire life. I remember the 73 war. I remember Sadat getting shot. I mean, because I'm old.
Starting point is 01:28:00 This was going on and on and on. And my gosh. Now all these countries are at peace. And of course, Biden's like, who cares? Well, so up to the malls. We get that. We get the banning of critical race theory. Yes.
Starting point is 01:28:14 These are things I like. We get school choice. It was pushing for. He didn't get he didn't get to push that hard enough. Now I'm wondering how many of these things will Ron DeSantis push as well? Because what he's doing in Florida with censorship is brilliant. Yes. What he's done with COVID has worked swimmingly. enough. Now I'm wondering how many of these things will Ron DeSantis push as well? Because what he's doing in Florida with censorship is brilliant. Yes. What he's done with COVID has worked swimmingly. Ban CRT. Right. Exactly. Banning critical race theory. I'll clarify the
Starting point is 01:28:34 pandemic thing. Like, look, people lost lives, lost their lives in the pandemic. But I believe the death rate in Florida is 8% below the national average. You want to talk about what are our objective standards for doing a good job in the pandemic? How about 8% below national average you want to talk about what are our objective standards for doing a good job in the pandemic how about eight percent below national average is it is it are there still problems sure but he's doing a good job now when he steps up to the plate assuming he does will he will he approach some of some of the things that trump was pushing as well as a populist right-wing platform one of the advantages santos will have especially if he listens is he'll have the Rolodex that Trump never did. Trump got into office and didn't know anybody. If you had had Jeb Bush,
Starting point is 01:29:11 the human puffball, roll into office, and I want you to assume exclamation point every time I say Jeb, so we don't have to go through that drill. Jeb could have called on 5,000 people to fill the federal government because the Bushes knew these 5,000 people. Most of them worked for his brother's administration. Trump didn't have that. Trump's biggest problem was always personnel, including hiring generals
Starting point is 01:29:36 because he was always impressed by generals. He shouldn't have been. Every single general except for Flynn seemed to stick him. If DeSantis goes in, he's got a whole bunch of veterans of the Trump administration. And he knows what the play is, which is leave people in place to disrupt in the bureaucracy. And he's a mean dude. He'll happily go, fire, fire, fire. He needs to say, you know, at 1201 on January, I guess, 20th of 2025, I want the resignation of every United States attorney. I want the resignation of every SES executive.
Starting point is 01:30:19 I want the resignation of everyone on the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I want the resignation of everybody whose job I Chiefs of Staff. I want the resignation of everybody whose job I get to pick. You are all gone. Director of the FBI, Mr. Wray, thank you for your service. You are out. Here is my list. And here are the people going over to those agencies. And he's got to invest time. For instance, the Pentagon needs to devote, you know, if he wants to fix the Pentagon, his time and attention is the weapons system. People do what commanders check. If he spends 30 minutes a day on that, you know, his people bring in the problems. And I would do leadership by anecdote, right?
Starting point is 01:31:04 There's all this stuff out there on the Internet. And we know that things like like this, this woman being canceled for anti-Asian. That resonates. That's an anecdote. It resonates as a bigger meaning. Find the military stuff that has a bigger meaning. There's a chaplain at Elmendorf Air Force Base. He's told he can't say the word Jesus.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Great. I, Secretary of Defense, I want you, Chairman of Joint Chiefs. I want the Joint Chief of the Air Force. I want every single guy down to the company commander or flight commander in this guy's chain of command with their deputies in my office. Nine o'clock tomorrow, you will brief me on how you're protecting this man's First Amendment rights. If you're unsatisfactory, I will leave you.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Your deputy will brief me the next day at 9 a.m. You do that one time, maybe two, they get the message. I don't see how a Democrat will win 2024. I don't see Joe Biden as having nearly the strength to run a second term. Oh, it's going to be physically. You're right.
Starting point is 01:32:10 But Kamala is just so ridiculously unpopular. Tulsi Gabbard got more delegates than she did. Tulsi got one. Kamala got none. Tulsi could become a Republican. I think she probably will. I think she'd fit. Yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:32:22 I don't like everything she's about. Me neither. But I don't even like everything I'm about. You know Jeff Van Drew? He was the Democrat in South Jersey. Yeah, New Jersey guy. He's a Democrat. I mean, you look at his policy positions.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Yeah, didn't he vote for a union thing the other day? Probably. The PRO Act or something. But he's like, eh, the Republicans are more reasonable. That's ridiculous how bad the Democrats have become, to be honest. Well, look, America's got two parties. It's always going to have two parties because of the way the electoral college exists. And you've got to be able to have 50 percent plus one.
Starting point is 01:32:58 And I think the Democrats, by narrowing and creating this purity test, are really screwing themselves. Because they're going to drive a lot of people away. And they're not going to have Trump to kick around. I mean, poor, God, pity Brian Stelter. There's a lot of things to pity that human tuber about. But pity Tater because he's got nothing left to talk about. Okay, I like Tucker Carlson a lot. He's no substitute for Donald Trump 24-7 as the rating show.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Yeah. And they're going to try and run against Donald Trump. They're already trying in the recall. Oh, this is a white supremacist Trump thing. That's why we're recalling Newsom. Newsom. Two million signatures. Got to be far right.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Yeah. All those right wing Got to be far right on. Yeah. All those all those right wingers out in California. Yeah, I'm starting to feel like based on what we're seeing, it could be DeSantis. But hey, man, look, we're years out. So who knows? You know, we could see somebody come in that we never expected. There are some people who I'm I'm still trying to figure out why they would run. I like Pompeo.
Starting point is 01:34:04 But who's the guy who's got Pompeo mania, right? Ted Cruz, I think he's brilliant. Yeah, but he, you know, I mean. When I look, like Ted Cruz has done some good things, but is he presidential? Well, I gave him money last cycle, but he lost last cycle. He was doing fairly well, but I just don't see him. It's just that X factor, you know what I mean? Can he walk up to a guy in Michigan who works on an assembly line and have a conversation that's not totally awkward?
Starting point is 01:34:36 Now, Trump can't because Trump actually – he grew up with guys with hard hats, you know, guys doing cement work, steel work, the iron mongers. I mean, he and you see the videos of him going up and talking to the cops. And it's, you know, it's a president and a cop going, how are you doing? But it's not awkward. It's like, oh, my gosh, does this guy think I'm a, you know, does this guy think I can't do a push up kind of vibe? Trump's comfortable with who he is. And that's I think that was one of his secrets. You know why?
Starting point is 01:35:08 How could how could you like a rich guy like that? Because if I was rich, I'd do the same thing right down to the imported model wife and the golden toilet and the golden toilet. Well, so I want a golden toilet. So it's I'd have a golden bidet. I'd have a urinal of gold. He probably does. Heck yeah. So I think, you know.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Platinum bidet. Let's take it to the next level. Platinum. Platinum bidet. Real expensive. That could actually be my next acapella punk band. Platinum bidet. There you go.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Make an album. Yeah. So, well, let's jump over to Super Chats and we'll see what the audience has to say. If you haven't already, smash that like button. Your smashing of the like button is very important to us. It's the only thing we actually care about. We just sit here all day staring. I'm half kidding.
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Starting point is 01:36:17 And fortunately, YouTube cuts off the name of our first super chat, so I can't read it. He says, DOD CTR here had extremism training today and spoke up re politicization of military and concerns of white extremism push eight to nine examples of what wrong looks like were right-wing white uh white including proud boys stand on principle and always speak up yeah all right let's see joe kush says hey tim what do you think about the recent peaceful violence in the pacific northwest violence were they saying things that were mean no no they weren't engaging in violence that was that was uh rehabilitative restorative resistance wasn't it night yeah so it's not it's not terrorism or insurrection if it's at night right as i
Starting point is 01:37:06 understand and they didn't say any mean words and mean words are violence therefore they were taking physical action for restorative justice i see so it was a peaceful restorative justice night march gotta be specific you know what i mean you know after a while people were just getting used to the lies, just being lied to. And it just kind of, it's not good. So the Black Blade says, I lose sleep over this question. When the rubber meets the road on the U.S. debt, say in 50 to 20 years, when my kids are trying to build a life, will they even earn $1 working in the U.S.? Well, I guess to the extent there's good news is the entire world economy will collapse eventually at this rate uh so where they can't earn money will be kind of
Starting point is 01:37:55 irrelevant i think if it comes to the point where you can't make a dollar people stop trading dollars well then they start trading other things. Right. Like bullets and food. Yeah. Things that will be more valuable and more directly usable. And there will also be, well, until it's stamped out, kind of extracurricular currencies like the Bitcoin and other stuff. You know what I always thought was funny?
Starting point is 01:38:21 Bitcoin. I'm sorry. I had to do that. Alex Jones would be like, buy your gold, people. You would be like buy your gold people you know you gotta buy your gold when telling people to eat gold exactly do you know what so i would tell people this all right let's say you're walking down the streets apocalypse right and you're carrying uh you know like a big sandwich and there's a guy on onto your left and a guy to your right and you're like all right i got this sandwich let's trade the guy on your left goes i have a gold coin a guy to your right. And you're like, all right, I got this sandwich. Let's trade. The guy on your left goes, I have a gold coin.
Starting point is 01:38:47 The guy on your right says, I have a bottle of water. Guess who's going to be trading for that food? Exactly. It's not the guy with the gold coin. No. Water is going to be worth substantially more than gold in a crisis situation, especially in big cities. Yes.
Starting point is 01:39:00 You could have a big wheelbarrow full of gold bars and people are going to be like, I can't eat or drink that, dude. I'm dying. And they'll be like, where's the water at? Interestingly, I saw this video once. There's apparently like in New York City, a stream that runs under buildings that you can actually access. Like if you jump over a wall. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. And there was a there was a dude who was an urban explorer who talks about how when you go to New York, you see all the city, all these buildings and asphalt, but they actually had to preserve this stream. And so you can actually find it somewhere. I don't know. It's crazy story. Oh,
Starting point is 01:39:30 that's freaky. All right, let's see. Tyler Wajnarowski says, wow, Tim, I'm very impressed with the top notch guests you've had on the show this week.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Keep up the great work. Your show is fantastic. Well, thank you very much. I mean, look, we're lucky people want to come on the show. It's important that I be praised. That right as a as a los angeles trial lawyer i have a gigantic ego and
Starting point is 01:39:50 it needs to be fed and it's good for me too because when guests talk more and and and more quickly i can just kind of relax and be like ah it's like it's like it's like a break for once you know schlichter's got this he's gonna talk i'm'm just going to sit back and let it roll. Let it roll on over me. It's like a conversation. I love it. It's a chat. Yeah, it is. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Doobie McNasty says, I'd rather have Putin than Biden. It's painful but true. No, I would not rather have Putin than Biden. No, no. Putin is a bad guy. And the fact that the liberals don't like him does not make him a good guy. Putin, you know, look, he's a bad he's a bad dude who runs bad a group of bad boys. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 01:40:34 And he is he is not nice. He's not a friend of the United States. And if he had more power, he would cause us more damage. He doesn't have that much power. But the people, the liberals who won't shut up about him give him more oh yeah all right mr rass lion says hey kurt will you write a novel showing the splitting of the u.s from kelly's perspective i came into the series from indian country great guest this week tim uh yes i'm already reading it number five crisis is from his uh does talk
Starting point is 01:41:04 about the country splitting up. And the next one, The Split, which will be out in May, carries it on. And I'm quite happy with the progress, about halfway through it. I have so much fun writing these books. It is so much fun to write these novels, even though I'm talking about this horrible stuff. Have you played The Division? The video game? No. You should definitely check
Starting point is 01:41:26 it out i'm afraid of video games so if i start playing video games i may never stop check out the division i think you'll like it it's uh it's it's a few years old at this point it's uh the first one is about a bioweapon gets released new york is it is basically a quarantine zone so it's like a documentary yes absolutely it Well, it's got a governor who keeps grabbing breasts. Well, so you you're you are you're part of an organization called the Division, which was created under directive presidential directive 51. Are you familiar with directive 51? I am not related to Project 51 or I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:42:01 I think it's directive 51. George W. Bush created it and it creates the ability of the president to declare an emergency and create a new continuity of government, which creates like a singular federal authority all over, over all others. And it's, it's a pretty crazy directive. Now it's legality hasn't been tested,
Starting point is 01:42:20 but I think you'd get a kick out of the game because you basically play as these dudes with, with guns and like special reconnaissance tech to go in and deal with the factions that rise up in response to a power vacuum. It's like Escape from New York. Only this time you're going in and you're trying to deal with paramilitary groups that are trying to take over certain parts of the city, gangs. Could I have a bitchin' Mac-10 with a scope on it like yep yeah you can get all sorts of guns and modifications it's a fun game it's super fun yeah i mean you go in with a group of like you know three of your friends and you have to like there's uh in the first one you
Starting point is 01:42:55 raid the lincoln center and it's take it's been taken right taken over by like gangs and it's actually new york city it's like really you go to like Times Square. And the funny thing is, Woody Allen is in it and he has a gang of young women. It's not. It just. But I'd welcome the mod. It's a thing. It's a mod. I think we should add that on.
Starting point is 01:43:14 That would be Mia Farrow. You can play them off against each other. That sounds great. All right. We got. And Ronan Sinatra. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:24 A sense of. That's a OK. A sense of tangent. A sense of Muse three says, hey, gang, Delaware resident here. At least once a week, traffic is held up for hours because of Joe Biden's traveling. Lots of resources and taxpayers time wasted. Also, do you still have a P.O. Box for receiving stuff? We do. If you go to Timcast dot com, I think it's in the contact section.
Starting point is 01:43:42 But welcome to living near where our president lives. I'm pretty sure it was like that with Obama when he was in Chicago. Oh, he would come to Los Angeles and lock it up. And I would just I remember that I would love it because it was all the liberals who voted for him. Like you said, in gridlock with your president. The funny thing is this guy, he needs to know that he was gridlocked this week because they were taking the dog home. Ah, very important. So he had to make it
Starting point is 01:44:05 for fido master rusev says you talk about social media censorship but hardly mention google search result censorship since 2016 anti-establishment information doesn't exist on google search i believe we actually did several segments where i mentioned my youtube channels my other two were blacklisted on Google search. Yes. So you have to go to like DuckDuckGo or something. Yep. Or directly to type in the URL.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Funny thing is, after I mentioned it on this show, the blacklist was removed. And my channel started to reappear in Google search. Do you think that there are infiltrators inside Google who are listening to you and who are kind of, uh, I I'm taking the word woke to mean understood, you know, essentially like, are there like woke people at Google who like spy on the show and try and get me in trouble or something? No, no, no. Woke people woke for us. Woke who see what we see. Oh, like red pilled. I, I, you could call it red pill.
Starting point is 01:44:58 That's, that's the equivalent of woke. Woke means they woke up to the realities of critical race theory or whatever. And I just love saying woke because it just ticks them off so much. You can't say that. Well, a, I'm doing it. B,
Starting point is 01:45:09 I'm also doing, I know a lot of people at Google who apparently really like my show. And I've spoken with other major entertainment companies who have tried to sign me and pitch deals. I've rejected, but they tell me basically Google their big fans. It's a lukewarm show. I try to tell people not to swear, to simmer down, not to be mean and things like that.
Starting point is 01:45:33 So they like that. Yeah, you're mellow. Milk toast. You're mellow. I don't know if you're milk toast because there's a lot of woke going on. That's the joke. It's self-deprecating. There's a lot of woke going on. That's the joke. It's self-deprecating. There's a lot of woke going on. Conserva woke.
Starting point is 01:45:46 I think Google sees this as a way to have – Look, as Google excises many conservative channels, they're going to lose a lot of users. So they love it if they can get a lukewarm centrist show that conservatives are willing to watch even if they disagree with it because youtube can make money then while getting rid of what conservatives actually want to watch i don't think you're i don't think you're lukewarm i think you take a very uh it's becoming a mainstream conservative view the mainstream conservative change it's no longer a bunch of bowtied virgins uh pitching their cruises no look, right now, conservative is essentialism and Democrat is constructivism. So that's what it is. So I took the eight values test. Actually, I took the
Starting point is 01:46:33 political compass test. I'm a left libertarian. I am almost a socialist. But it doesn't ask you questions about modern culture war issues. It asks you questions about corporate regulation and international relations. So sure, on those points that mattered 10 years ago, that's where I land on the political compass. On the eight values test,
Starting point is 01:46:53 I'm mostly an essentialist, but I'm a progressive, progressive and like a bunch of left positions. But when it comes to science, I believe that science and objective reality exist. And that's what separates me from the woke crowd and the modern Democrats.
Starting point is 01:47:10 That's probably why when Glenn Greenwald said, if you think the proud boys are the seats of power, then you're nuts. It's because he's right. There's an objective truth. Random groups of, you know, roving bands of-wingers is not a threat to the majority people in this country no it objectively is not and uh i gotta tell you i love hearing the people tell me about how they love science it's just i think there's a shamelessness problem i think we have lost too much shame because now they're just lying to your face it's like no a man can become a woman no well this freezing weather means global warming they've changed definitions yeah they they do that they they
Starting point is 01:48:01 never quite come out and say yes yes, I am ignoring objective reality. But they do, and then they kind of like plaster it over a little bit. But I'll tell you, I think the media is the biggest problem. I understand this. The media is a huge problem. Well, because the media is choosing to ignore a bunch of things. Yes. So I'll give you an example.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Brian Stelter wrote an article. I think it was Brian Stelter. He wrote an article. Newsmax ratings collapse or whatever. Newsmax wrote an article, CNN's ratings collapse, but they only mention Newsmax. In the Newsmax article, they mention Newsmax ratings are down, CNN ratings are down. Hey, that's a fuller picture, isn't it? CNN only mentions Newsmax and passively mentions cable news ratings are down too.
Starting point is 01:48:42 Well, I'm a little biased against CNN since I got kicked off with Don Lemon. You got kicked off? On December 22nd, 2015, I got kicked off as my last CNN. I was the conservative guy, and I was not a Trump supporter at that time. And they called me on one day, last minute, and I did Skype from my office. And it was about the president, then candidate, had said, yeah, Hillary got schlonged by Obama during the primary. And Don Lemon's having this fit because he used the word schlonged, which I was like, OK, mild Yiddish vulgarity. I could not. I was I was reliable time out why Trump was not a traditional conservative.
Starting point is 01:49:25 But I couldn't do it that day. I can't. I said, Don, I care about this so little it would take Stephen Hawking to quantify it. And he's like, what? But that's the greatest outrage in the history of outrages. And especially knowing that this woman, you know, when we're talking about this, and this is the same woman who enabled her husband to treat his intern like a humidor. Oh, there's a lot more than that with the women who have accused Bill Clinton. Oh, yeah. But I just said that I did the humidor thing. And he said, you can't say that. So I said it again, because I'll be damned if that little weirdo is going to tell me anything. And he kicked me off.
Starting point is 01:50:10 And I got kicked. I go blank. The screen goes blank. And the producer goes, thank you. Goodbye. Click. And it's usually the producer. You're fantastic.
Starting point is 01:50:18 You're amazing. We'll call you again. And I was like, huh. Well, that was abrupt. Yeah. And suddenly my phone starts going. I didn't realize I got cut off. It's on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:50:27 It's actually kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Let's read some more. We got the civic nationalities. Civic Nationalist says something that everyone must learn is people don't shift to the right, but the younger generation become more left wing. And that is the cultural shift.
Starting point is 01:50:40 And Tim made you say God save the queen. Oh, there you go. Congratulations. Yeah. And Tim, made you say God save the queen. Oh, there you go. Congratulations. Yeah, I think what happens for a lot of younger people is that they're consistently pushed to the left. And I think there's a lot of factors. There's absolutely an ideological push to make the kids become more and more leftist. But I think you end up with an age group of like late 20s that assume young people are further left. And so that these assumptions drive them to try and market and sell products
Starting point is 01:51:09 to kids that are further and further left. But a better way to put it is probably it's a corruption of what they saw when they were kids. When I was a kid, we had family friendly messaging on kids shows. We had shows where it was like, don't be mean to your neighbors and don't be racist. And so now these people have grown up and they've created this corrupted mutant version of the same thing
Starting point is 01:51:30 that is like nonsensical garbage. But they think it's like, that's what I was shown when I was a kid. And you're like, what are you? Are you nuts? This show is insane.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Some of the stuff they show kids is just brutal. Well, I mean, the entertainment industry is captured by woke that's for sure but i think there's look this show your show is an example of the pushback you're like the samis dot the the the the secret um forbidden information network in the soviet union yeah i mean you're saying things that shouldn't be said.
Starting point is 01:52:07 You are being, you're constantly being chased by the censors. A lot of other people doing that too. And people are getting the word. I don't think that kids are as far left as the, as some people worry. I think to quote the who, the kids are all right. And by the way, I love Motorhead's cover of God Save the Queen. It's really good. Let me sing and lead.
Starting point is 01:52:32 It's beautiful. But I think, and by the way, I think the death of rock and roll has been a huge problem for the young kids because there's no rebel music now. Right. Rock and roll was always an outlaw brand now the music is i mean you know the politicians are hanging out with the rap artists it's establishment i guess i'll just have to make more music videos yes well yeah loud fast rules man some punk rock all right we got we got one for you though conor o'brien says workplace, Big Four, is mandating an anti-racism training. If I refuse to partake
Starting point is 01:53:09 and get fired, will you sue them with me? Well, there's a lot of questions there, and I'm not giving anybody legal advice. I'm not anybody's lawyer. You should consult an employment attorney in your jurisdiction to find out your rights. Interestingly, there are many states that pass laws to protect communists, which essentially prevent them from being biased against people's political viewpoints. And California is one of them. And I bet they never expected it to be used by conservatives. But I think that is a way to go. Look, the legal system is not perfect.
Starting point is 01:53:57 You're probably going to lose more cases than you win, but that's how change through litigation is made. You bring cases. And Donald Trump, at least in the federal courts, put in a lot of judges who are much more open to hearing this sort of thing. Also, states – look, there's a lot of power in the states that are not held by woke liberals. Oh, yeah. And DeSantis is proving it. You mentioned his censorship stuff. Yep. There is no reason the states can't pass laws to protect freedom of expression.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Yep. And they can make it very tough on the tech companies yeah that is one place we need to do it this is where the struggle is going to be and i think you do take them to court where it's appropriate right on all right cold water says i was in the california national guard infantry in 1992 living in long beach and activated the same day the riots broke out. Next thing you know, I'm running around Compton with an M16. Crazy. Oh my god, he's probably 3-160 also. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:54:52 3rd Battalion, 160th Infantry out of Inglewood. There you go. What is Long Beach? Long Beach is a little south of there. I think we may have had a company there. I think Delta Company was there. I don't remember for sure. But hey, man, Colonel Wenger.
Starting point is 01:55:08 All right. Doobie McNasty is back. He says Fauci is a... Is he one of the Doobie brothers? Yeah, he was the long lost Doobie brother. The long lost Doobie brother. I don't know. McNasty.
Starting point is 01:55:17 All right. He says Fauci is a despotic piece of dog doo. Rand Paul actually grilled him today. It's worth watching if you haven't. Love what you do, and I'm jealous of your skating skills. Now, Doobie had to issue a correction because he spelled skating skills wrong, but it says skating skills. F an autocorrect. But thank you for the super chance.
Starting point is 01:55:33 Thanks, man. Well, you've got Doobie's vote. All right, Doobie. I did hear a little of Rand Paul today. He did a great job. I heard it on Larry O'Connor show. Yeah. Uh,
Starting point is 01:55:47 and, uh, yeah, that look, that's the kind of thing we need. We've got to keep making our case. It does change minds eventually. And it,
Starting point is 01:55:58 it look, we're the common sense guys and people are going to come around. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow. And it'll probably get worse before it gets better. But I refuse. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow. And it'll probably get worse before it gets better. But I refuse, and I'm almost pounding the table. I refuse to give in to pessimism. I refuse to give up.
Starting point is 01:56:14 Well, here's an option. OMG Puppy says, the Open Society Foundation has a $16 billion endowment from Soros. Perfect target for a massive wealth tax? Well, tax the endowments. Oh, I definitely down with taxing endowments on academia. Anything that will destroy academia is What does Will say? Seize the endowments.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Seize the endowments. I love Will Chamberlain. Seize the endowments. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, he started there, right? Will Chamberlain started there. Oh, yeah. Will's woke. I like Will. The right one. He's good woke.? Oh, yeah. Will's woke. I like Will. But like the right one. He's good woke. He's good woke.
Starting point is 01:56:47 I use woke unless I'm using it ironically. I'm using it, you know, I guess ironically. DJ Madero says, please, if you want to watch a great Star Trek episode, watch By the Pale Moonlight from DS9. It shows you what a good man will do. He's got an acronym. Oh, yeah. DS9.
Starting point is 01:57:06 That's actually one of the shows. It will show you what a good man will do when he believes the ends justify the means. Quote, I can live with it. I can live with it. Yeah. DS9's great, too. That's a tougher one, as I understand. It's kind of edgier.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Which one? Deep Space Nine? Yes. I've never watched it, but I understand it's the edgier one. one deep space yes i've never watched it but i it was yeah i understand it's the edgier one it's not all like soft and yeah next generation was feeling next next generation was about the like the philosophical consequences of technological advancement and meeting new civilizations and star trek itself was always kind of like that meet they would meet a new civilization that had different cultural norms and structures and then like exploring it was about it was about kirk killing romulans and laying pipe with green alien chips all right
Starting point is 01:57:51 he was like he was keystone okay that's how much pipe kirk yeah i'll tell you i'll tell you i dead serious i watched star trek it was always on reruns in the 70s when I was growing up. I tried to model some of my leadership stuff on Captain Kirk. Not all of it. But some of the stuff. Always showing confidence. Always trying to have integrity. Always being tactically proficient. Knowing your stuff.
Starting point is 01:58:23 I mean, you could do a lot worse than being James Kirk. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. The old James, not the movie James Kirk, where you can't do a sit-up. Right. I mean the little tight green thing. All right. Sweaty Kirk.
Starting point is 01:58:36 But the next generation is the best. I don't know what they're doing now, but I don't, you know, much care for it. All right. SVT Bill says, Tim, your Alex Jones impression is great, LOL. That's right. I think I did it when Alex was here. now but i don't you know as much care for it all right uh svt bill says tim your alex jones impression is great lol that's right i think i did it when alex was here it was funny op says am i in the alex jones chair yeah you are yeah that's right wow can you smell it his heady musk is overwhelming he was in that chair twice uh op says hey tim for super chat would you be interested in
Starting point is 01:59:05 having an irl game have irl gaming events like tournaments after lockdowns are done i think it'd be good for building the brand and building culture you know what it's a good idea you know we should do in in the venue we should put floating chairs with tvs on the ceiling so you're like floating and playing a video game while like laid back you know what i mean i want to make some 360 desks where you can spin around like hey isn't there like a body suit that's attached to like a uh some sort of probe in the ground where you can like do 360 video there's with your eye with yeah there's there's a suit you wear how much i know about video games you strap yourself in and you can run in place in virtual reality. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:47 I'm not into anything that involves being strapped in. I'm not like Romney, because I think there's an undercurrent there. I'm just saying. But, you know, I think there's a vinyl thing. But I don't know. But, no, that just seems to—I think I've gotten off the point. That seems like fun all right we'll do uh bring me back in we'll do it we'll do a couple more here archangel 978 says
Starting point is 02:00:11 you must drink every time we hear about the four lights lids talks and ian disagrees with tim also anytime they say smash the like button now i gotta stop you right there i think we've only mentioned the four lights maybe a total of five times in the past year. And it's come up mostly from comments and only twice in the past two days because literally the episode came on TV the moment before we had Jack on the show. But, you know, for saying we when we say smash the like button, you should drink if you're old enough and responsible enough and then smash the like. Yes. All right. At least go face down on the like button. That's right.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Yeah. Sea Turtle 257 says, Tim, you're loving the names of these people. Are there like 256 other sea turtles out there? Maybe. Are they sitting together? These are just the usernames. Hey, Gobi McNasty. Sea Turtle 649.
Starting point is 02:01:07 All right. Sea Turtle 257 says, Tim, I'm a journalist 649 Alright, Sea Turtle 257 says Tim, I'm a journalist in the Navy I will be retired this year I would love to work with you My first project will be a docu-series of me traveling to different sites on my motorcycle That sounds pretty cool You can always email jobs at timcast.com
Starting point is 02:01:20 Granted, it is just filled to the brim with emails and we'll go through it when we can but that's the best way to to get it you know i mean i i let me kurt's input you got a phone get out there on your bike and do it that's the beauty of this technological revolution i'm looking around at your studio and you have a very effective studio it looks good in the big scheme of things it probably didn't cost that much. My brother has a post-production company. 20 years ago, he bought what was called an Avid system to edit.
Starting point is 02:01:50 It costs $100,000. See my iPhone? It can edit better. Yep. If you want to be a journalist, get on your bike, take your phone, go out there, edit it up, put it up, know link people who uh do it that's what i did yeah that's that's how you do it i mean you know i mean i i you just build i i start off with andrew breitbart i wrote one article now i i get a lot of action over at a town hall i got my locals go to my locals page um it's a lot of fun. And you can do it.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Technology allows us to do these things and allows us to get around these gatekeepers. There are no walls. They're gatekeeping walls that fell like the walls around Jericho. All right. We'll do one more Super Chat. J.H. Schwalbach says, Kurt, you just bought three bought Kurt, just bought three of your books on audible.
Starting point is 02:02:48 Wife will need to wait a little longer for the new boobies, Tim. Yes, I'm a member, but in Cali coming to events will be hard. Your books are more important. There's a lot to unpack there. First of all, I mean, you know, wow. Thank you. know, wow. Thank you? Congratulations, sir. Well, I'm glad you're keeping us abreast of your reading habits.
Starting point is 02:03:13 There you go. Yes. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, have you not smashed the like button? We only humbly ask that you give us those likes. And if you're listening on the podcast on iTunes, Spotify, leave us a good review. And don't forget to subscribe. And if you really you really really like the show tell all your friends about it say guys you got to listen to the show it's just so good it's the best show ever you can
Starting point is 02:03:31 follow me on all social media platforms at timcast my other youtube channels are youtube.com slash timcast and youtube.com slash timcast news this show is live monday through friday at 8 p.m so we will be back tomorrow kurt is there anything you want to shout out before we hit the road thanks for having me. I hope people go and check out my books. What are they called? The first one, People's Republic, Indian Country, Wildfire, Collapse, and Crisis. And they're a lot of fun.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Sounds like it. People seem to be really big fans of them. Look, I have a lot of fun writing them, and I'm very gratified that people like them. And, of course, follow me on Twitter. Go to my Locals page. Get into my little community. I'm like Malice. I'm very gratified that people like them. And, of course, follow me on Twitter. Go to my Locals page. Get into my little community. I'm like Malice. I'm building a little community.
Starting point is 02:04:09 Right on. What's super gratifying is I'll go away for a while. I'll come back, and people will have posted other things, and they're having discussions that I don't necessarily be a part of, but I like to jump in on. Yeah, right on. So it's kind of cool. Cool. All right. Yeah, you can follow me at IanCrossland.net if you want to check out some of my stuff as well you're a great kaneer stop you were right stop the charade turned out he was
Starting point is 02:04:30 right it's true yeah thanks man and i am sour patch lids on mines and twitter we are going to have a members only exclusive segment coming up at timcast.com so thanks for hanging out and we will see you all there bye guys

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