Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #248 - China Exploits BLM Narrative To Attack US In Meetings w/Siraj Hashmi

Episode Date: March 20, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host friend and fellow podcaster Siraj Hashmi to analyze breaking news of China's accusations of outright, outrageous racism in the US as they seek to divide Americans, and America's concerted efforts to protect Chinese actors and causes in the US, as well as whether this path has led to the US already being 'divorced,' and where this shift might have begun. Finally, a judge gives an incisive dissent to a free speech case about the state of modern partisan media.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Recently, the U.S. engaged in peace talks with China, and it seems like they're not going too well because the AP is reporting it's unusual the level of bickering and a smackdown that's been going on back and forth. The U.S. criticizes China over a lot of things they're doing. China criticizes back. the U.S., I kid you not, of slaughtering black people, exploiting the Black Lives Matter and woke narrative to criticize the U.S. when the U.S. tries calling out the concentration camps and other things. Other than that, China's been saying that in the U.S., we have no grounds to complain about democracy over there because the people in the U.S. don't even agree with American democracy either. And the whole thing seems to be, well, highly unusual, they say, but shocking to a lot of people because among many conservatives, they believe

China would never speak like this if Donald Trump was still president. I think maybe it's just escalation, whether it was Trump or Biden. There's been an ongoing escalating tension between the two countries. But in terms of China calling the U.S. weak, and they did, we got this video of Joe Biden nearly falling down the stairs, which is getting a lot of attention. Now, Biden's saying it was just the wind. It was the wind. But a lot of people are questioning whether or not Joe Biden has the mental and physical fitness to be president. A new poll shows 33 percent of Americans believe he does not. So we'll talk about this. We'll talk about some other stuff. I guess it's like a woke

monopoly coming out, which will be fun to talk about. We're hanging out with the creator of the infamous The List, Siraj. You want to introduce yourself? What's going on, Tim? Siraj Hashmi, now formerly employee of the Washington Examiner. I am a free agent and creator of The List, but you can also check me out on habibi bros that is the podcast that me and mujahid kobe my buddy jay who has been banned 12 different times by twitter and constantly comes back he is the man who cannot be killed on twitter should he go on the list oh well that's the thing is the list only works for him and i never put him on it there you go so so explain the list real

quick all right so the list is literally a power ranking of people who need their phones taken away. So, for example, if someone tweets something a genuinely bad take, you know, it could be comparing, say, Trump to Hitler, although that is actually very trite and commonplace. But something, for example, you know, the Chinese Communist Party tweets out something insane about the United States, knowing obviously how hypocritical it is. They'll go on the list for it. Yeah. And then there's people like should i name anybody specifically we're just talking about jennifer rubin she's the one who washington post right washington post uh formerly i guess conservative uh blogger pro-establishment whatever that means but basically she has gone on the list of i i could tell you basically one of the tweets that got her on the list was so benign, but it's so ridiculous.

She posted a photo of her dog and saying, sleeping in during the Biden era. We sleep in on the weekends. When Biden was bombing Syria? Yeah. It was literally the day or two after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the list. Right on, right on.

So we'll get into it. We got Ian East chilling. What's up, everybody? Ian Crossland. How's it going? Great to be here. I love you. And me, Sour Patch Lids in the corner.

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reset after years of trade wars and tensions over cybersecurity during Trump's presidency were quickly stamped out. U.S. Secretary of State Antony Antony Blinken and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan opened opening the meeting by referring to concerns over Beijing's human rights record. China's top foreign affairs official, Yang Jiechi, thunderously responded by accusing the U.S. of its own human rights violations, saying, we hope the U.S. will do better on human rights, Yang said during a 15-minute speech. The fact is that there are many problems in the U.S. regarding human rights, which is admitted by the U.S. itself. Yang added that human rights issues in the U.S., such as racism, that human rights issues in the U.S.

such as racism were deep-seated. They did not just emerge over the past four years such as Black Lives Matter. This is really annoying to me because the narrative for the most part from Black Lives Matter is overhyped, exaggerated, and just, I'm going to say it, not true. I don't know if, I think you may have seen this, Ian,

but did you see the poll where they asked liberals and conservatives how many innocent, you know, how many black people were killed by police in 2019? And liberals said over a thousand. And the actual number is 27. So what's happening is, yeah, we have this media narrative, this big lie where they keep saying these things over and over again. And you get these people who genuinely believe that cops are going around hunting down black people. If I thought that was true, I'd be out there with Black Lives Matter every single day. But we know it's not true. Any death caused by the cops, it's a tragedy. Either a cop was defending himself,

it's still a tragedy. Or the cop was committing a crime, especially a tragedy. Now China is exploiting this. Our own media is tearing our country apart, in my opinion. And now China is accusing us of being weak. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. You know, China obviously can't look in the mirror and ever call out their own sins. For example, obviously, just how oppressive they are to their own people, the reeducation camps of Uyghurs, basically Hong Kong and threatening their autonomy and jailing basically any political dissident. So they have no – obviously no moral standing on this issue. I just find it hilarious that they think that the US government is sanctioning like basically all this terrorism against uh one you know racial demographic i don't think they they believe it no i mean like they i mean but they're accusing us of this i think i think it's really interesting in previous administrations would

china have stood up so brazenly and insulted degraded the united states to their faces nope the iron wasn't hot enough but but you know what i think i mean if you remember under the obama administration and the the plane situation the plane uh confrontation and they basically made them almost i think it was like they wouldn't let them land or get off the plane they basically had to oh wow yeah this is something this is how this happened on the obama administration i don't know if this is something uh that you know it was an almost an international incident that had to get stamped out quickly because China, they ramped up the aggression against, you know, foreign diplomats or I guess U.S. diplomats in this case. And then you have the whole anal swabs thing.

Oh, God. U.S. diplomats entering the country and they had to get a COVID test. Well, so we'll jump to that one a second. But the point I want to make is as the tensions escalate, as U.S. power wanes internationally and other countries

are losing confidence in whether or not the United States could even defend a place like Taiwan or the South China Sea, China is getting more and more brazen. They know the narrative's not true. They don't care. They're putting on a show for the people of the world to say, we're not scared of America anymore and we're going to stand up and we're going to use their own fracturing of their of their culture against them.

That's what's happening. Now, as for the the butt swabs thing, which was like a huge story, I think it's fair to say if Donald Trump was president, that would not have happened. Yeah, that's fair to say if Donald Trump was president, that would not have happened. Yeah, that's fair to say. But I also and we were talking about this. I don't think under the Trump administration, they would set their willing. They would willingly send out a group of diplomats to China in the middle of a trade war. Right.

And basically subject themselves to something like this. I mean, during the trade war negotiations for the first trade deal that they agreed to, all the negotiations happened in Washington, D.C., literally across from the Eisenhower Executive Office building, which is the White House. But they're sending diplomats to China for what, routine work? I mean, I don't know. I mean, we had an ambassador to the, we had a U.S. ambassador to China, and we still have diplomatic relations with them. But, you know, there is no reason to subject our own diplomats to that. It's just an embarrassment. It's amazing.

For those that aren't familiar, U.S. diplomats were forcefully anal swabbed by China. Yeah. And I think that's another sign of just attempting to humiliate the united states for forceful swabbing of the bums of american personnel and they're basically look at this meeting it was 15 minutes of of the chinese you know officials yelling at america and the americans just sat there and took it saber rattling so i just wanted to point out that the whole confrontation with the obama administration uh so the u.s military always sends out a set of rolling air stairs um on every single uh presidential trip and so they have to seek

chinese approval to use the equipment and when president obama arrived in china the chinese reversed their position they wouldn't let him get off the plane wow yeah this was like a humiliation tactic but was was obama supposed to be there yeah it was i think it was actually a supposed to be a official presidential visit to meet with president xi so this wouldn't have happened under trump is that would you think it's fair to say well it didn't happen under Trump because when he went to China, he got like a huge welcoming ceremony. I mean, people remember obviously his meeting with Kim Jong-un in Vietnam and Singapore. I think it was just Singapore. They had at least two meetings If I'm not mistaken

But when he went to China There was a huge ceremony There was a huge celebration Of the US President going to China And if you remember correctly President Xi And President Trump actually had Deep affection for one another

But at the same time Trump was telling Everybody here in the United States, like, obviously we're going to be implementing all these tariffs on China. He had a lot of tough talk. But, and this is where he gets the criticism for being, you know, cozying up to authoritarians

because of how he approaches them. Now, his actual rhetoric is different from the actual policy because the policy was good, even if the rhetoric didn't match it. And that's what I think that's what people constantly get at Trump for. But he was particularly strong on China and Biden is particularly weak on China. Could it have been that fanfare and that celebration was because they were scared of Trump?

That's possible. Look, man, Trump was an erratic, bombastic guy. Hey, we're still number one, baby. I look at it like this even people like even trump supporters recognize that trump is kind of you know erratic i guess is the right way to put it meaning like he just says do it get it done come it pops into his head he says do it so if he gets mad on a whim he could be like shut it down no no deal for you so china knows these this trade war is on yeah the tariffs are a legit problem for them so they start kissing his ass yeah i think the

chinese communist party is a glass cannon in in that they're very fragile from what i've been discerning from our guests in the last few weeks they're they're on the verge of collapse but they don't want to show it and if they sense weakness they're going to go and bite it because they can hit from hard from a distance but if if they get, they got a real problem. And Biden is not an attacker. Not physically. the sort of the the what's the best word i could probably put it on um sort of the image the the there was a fallacy that russia was somehow the most dangerous country in the world and that was our geopolitical foe and threat and they hijacked an election and basically installed trump as you know putin's you know lapdog like you know as crazy as the you crazy as that blue anon talk. But then everybody just ignored China. And now we're realizing everything that's happening there. You have the Uyghur re-education camps,

you have Hong Kong autonomy withering away, you have the oppression of basically everyone and their political dissidents. They have the Belt and Road Initiative, which basically mortgages the future of basically every single country abroad that China does business with, particularly in Africa. They build up their infrastructure in exchange for, so like they'll give, say, a country like, you know, Mozambique or, you know, name your country in Africa, you know, billion dollar loans. But we get to control your ports. It sounds like they have to pay back that loan. Sounds like they're displacing the IMF. Yeah.

That's the economic hitman strategy. Right. And so they get all this economic control over these countries and they get to gain access to their valuable resources, whatever mining, whatever grain, you name it, farming. And yeah, they just consolidate that power. And the reason why they're still on the come up is and this obviously is tied into the political oppression, is that when you only have one single thought, you can get a lot more done. I think Bill Maher was talking about it as well as Tucker Carlson, interestingly enough, in the same week about how China is particularly strong in their military because they just focus on the job and just get it done. And I think Bill Maher's criticism in particular, it wasn't praiseworthy of the Chinese Communist Party, but really highlighting how they because they're so authoritarian, they can get more done. And we are so democratic, we can get nothing done. And it's democratic is you want to call it where we have

like the international monetary fund where we have the un and nato the united states and their military bases everywhere it's it's falling apart like you're mentioning what was it was the the belt and belt and road initiative yeah so china is essentially giving loans building up infrastructure in these countries to then have massive debt that will give them economic control that's what the the western powers used to do yeah or still probably do well that's what that's what colonialism was based on it was it may not have been as say concrete as what the belt and road initiative is but it was basically controlling territories to gain access to the resources in exchange for say example like french colonialism a french colonialism was basically uh we're going to exchange uh whatever you got

and we're going to give you french culture because that's like you know that's we're superior to your inferiority what we are seeing is china engaging in neo-colonialism it's effectively just colonialism but you know it's a you know from history till now they're starting up a new process transactional well but it's not just that it's chinese immigrants so china's a crowded nation they're seeing a lot of you know the creation of a lot of wealth as they expand they then naturally want to move to other countries to find opportunity and to find more space i actually uh interestingly enough about the Belt and Road Initiative is that they don't even hire locally. They bring in their own workers from China

to build up these, you know, whatever level of infrastructure, roads, bridges, buildings, you name it. Tunnels. It doesn't stimulate the local economy. All it does is just put these countries into debt and make them beholden to the Chinese Communist Party as a result. Isn't that what the IMF would do, basically?

Yeah. So listen, China is absolutely displacing the Western strategies and foreign policy, and they're sending in Chinese workers to a lot of countries. Many people who are just regular old citizens of China are naturally just emigrating to other countries. There's no plan there. They're just doing it because they want to move. They want to find a place. Then you end up with lots of Chinese immigrants in other countries setting up their own little

communities and Chinatowns and things like that. Then you get the Belt and Road Initiative, which creates the economic power structure. Eventually, you're going to have many countries which are just going to be like second world satellites of China. If not, they already are. And the U.S. – people don't seem to realize this. We talked about this, I think, earlier in the week that manufacturing in the U.S. actually is up a little bit, like 1 point something percent year over year. But we don't produce all that much relative to many other countries.

Our principal export is the U.S. dollar for buying oil. So we prop up the petrodollar with the threat of war to anybody who dares drop that dollar. The U.S. is in a very difficult position. It's, you know, we've got Joe Biden, who apparently is struggling to walk up these stairs. The wind blew him over. I kid you not. They said the wind blew him over. I mean, that was not a good excuse.

They could have said he tripped and we could have moved on. But Joe Biden falls over. I said, the wind blew him over. I kid you not. They said the wind blew him over. I mean, that was not a good excuse. They could have said he tripped and that we could have moved on. But Joe Biden falls over. The wind blew him over. Wow. You've got hyperpolarization. You've got a 50-50 split basically in our government. Senate is 50-50. And then the House is like 219 to 211 or whatever. Like just as narrow as it can get.

They're trying to remove some, they're trying to remove a Republican who was duly elected and certified. It's just, it's falling apart. Our international systems are failing. The international wars have failed. Our way of controlling other countries is falling apart and China is assuming all of it.

And I have to wonder how many special interests, millionaires, billionaires, and corporations in the US have already seen that happening and are moving their businesses over to hedge their bets? Exactly.

That's been happening. NBA, for instance. Yeah. No, it's been happening for a while, Disney. Apple. Apple, yeah. I mean, manufacturing in China

is really cheap, especially when they use Uyghur slave labor, right? Right. Well, but thinking about it this way, if the US dollar does crumble, Bitcoin's at 58,700 or whatever. Yeah.

These companies have already moved to China. And they're already, like you got Mark Cuban defending China. What does he see? That is he hedging his bet, basically saying he thinks China's going to win this one? China's already won. That's actually what I wanted to say,

is that Bill Maher, interestingly enough, and I agree with him on a lot of points, even if he even if he didn't get everything right in his little monologue from from last week, he pointed out how China already won. Yeah, they're not they're not winning. They already won because the fact that we're still bickering over things like the culture war, cancel culture, you name it. You know, these are things that are, they're distractions to the bigger picture. And in terms of global influence, the United States, I saw a t-shirt once that said, we're number one, but there was no apostrophe in it. We're number one.

We're number one. We were, yeah. Yeah. And so while the United States economy still is number one in the world, as I said, we're number one yeah yeah and so like you know while the united states economy still is number one in the world as i said we're still we're number one baby i mean that is that those days we're number one it's like the patriot's dynasty ending i never really got into the whole like we're the best thing because like when you're at the top you're just a target people want to rip you down we should be part of an integral group of allies that are working we were though

yeah we really should like r Russia and Britain and England. Well, not Russia, but we did have Western trade alliances, NATO, the UN. Yeah. And that power structure is failing. I mean, look, the coalition that went into Libya. Was it like France? You know, the US? A couple other countries, I guess.

Look at the coalition of theing or whatever going to Iraq. It wasn't just the U.S. It was a bunch of different countries expressing this control. We had every NATO nation as well as we got Australia, New Zealand involved. And basically, the invasion of Afghanistan was then turned into the invasion of Iraq. I mean, it's just for some reason, the United States loves war. We're never going to get out of it. And that has depleted our economy tremendously. And if you ever want to talk about how climate change impacts it, it doesn't help it.

You guys ever hear of the non-aligned movement? No. It's basically the other United Nations on Earth. There's the United Nations that we know of. And then all the countries that aren't involved with it are in this united group of nations called the non-aligned movement. Who's in it? Iran is the, the,

it's where their headquartered was in Iran for a while. Um, Muhammad Mahajad, uh, was like the chairman of it. Ahmadinejad. Yeah. Thank you for pronouncing that properly.

Um, and I would pull up a list. There's like 92 countries or something. Some, some insane number. Don't call me on that number, but it's, it's all these countries that the United States is basically doesn't want to have diplomatic ties with these are the people we need to be allied

with yeah well there's also bricks the bricks nations i mean that's the thing is like so iran and the united states are their interests are diametrically opposed. Iran wants basically hegemony over the region. The United States, I mean, the Iranian regime has been on the path of terror for quite some time, funneling money to Hamas, Hezbollah, you name it.

They've been killing our guys and our men and women overseas. I don't imagine that's going to happen anytime soon, unless Unless of course, president Biden tries to get the Iran nuclear deal going on again. God help us. If that happens, but look,

I am, I am fine with like making friends with other countries. So long as it doesn't, isn't to our detriment, we're not being taken advantage of. And I don't think that the Iranian regime is, would be acting in good faith. I'm looking at China, like the Nazi party. And if we had allied with Russia before the Nazis

invaded Poland, we could have possibly prevented it. What do you mean? Well, because we weren't really on good terms with Russia before the war, Russia wouldn't come to France as aid. Are you talking about World War II? Yeah. Okay. And so this is like a modern day, like we're on the cusp of another world war with another you know racist ethno state right and unless we ally now with russia and india and iran and all of these countries around china they're gonna do some crazy well the thing is like china and iran are basically in bed with each other because i mean when iran doesn't have you know any of its allies to go to if it

doesn't have the united states to go to the safe funnel them cash they'll go to russia and they'll go to china because china definitely wants to have them on their side yeah anyone who's an enemy of the united states is their friend so and like we're talking about it's it's china doing everything their power to expand their influence to anyone who's willing to listen. And I think that I wonder if there's elements of the U.S. that are worried about war. So they're already essentially resigning to the fact that we will lose. I think it was we were talking with Kurt. He said there's war games that the U.S. has done with China.

And all of these war games, we just lose, lose, lose. I can only imagine there's a lot of really rich people who are probably like, all right, well, if that's inevitable, I'm going to move my money over. I'm going to move my money to China and focus on that business. And then in 50 years when this whole system in the West falls apart, China will be the dominant superpower. Then you will have an authoritarian ethnostate exerting their cultural influence over all the other countries on the planet. I would argue, obviously, and I don't know if I said this before, but

if it sounds like I'm repeating myself, then I apologize. But I think Richard Nixon's greatest mistake was not anything to do with Watergate. It actually had to do with opening the United States to China. Because for some reason, I don't know what miscalculation took place, but it was a miscalculation. And I was assuming that the Chinese Communist Party, which at that time had only existed for about 20, 21 years after the Chinese Civil War, after World War II, that by introducing capitalism to them, they would somehow modernize. And what they did is they basically adapted. They kept their system in place and they basically turned their society into a pseudo-capitalist one that encouraged commerce and encouraged other corporations from other countries, namely from the United States, to come to them, get cheap manufacturing, build their products, and then ship it across the globe and they did it by

consolidating as much power as they needed to and by they i mean the chinese communist party and we're basically at a loss we underestimated china 100 we we we thought money and greed would win out and we underestimated the resolve and the ideology and the power of the chinese communist party so we were hoping that our money was going to go in and that essentially greed not necessarily greed but like commerce and a better life would open up the eyes of these people and they would say oh we should we should do that because it'll make us money and then eventually that would weaken the the power structure in the communist party they didn't realize how hardened it was so what ended up happening was the communist party

exploited all those systems around it to become even more powerful yeah and it's we just fed the beast we also underscore and probably we we discount the confucius institutes here in the united states yeah that's a very it's it is a very real problem but not one that's discussed very often. And that is how a number of different universities in the United States have these institutes called Confucius Institutes. And what they do is that they basically, it's like exporting the ideas of the Chinese Communist Party to malleable minds here in the United States. But also, you can look at the Chinese exchange students who come to the United States. And I'm not saying that them coming here is bad,

but what ends up happening is they start to adapt or they start to adopt some values that we here in America embrace. They start to get, maybe think that American values are actually much better than Chinese values. And they correct that issue right away. They have like sort of a self-policing system. And so if any exchange student gets out of line, you know, they're gone.

Yeah, I think, man, it's like we're on the back end of that bell curve. It's the golden age is over for us. It's been, we've been infiltrated. It's been real, guys. Yeah, it's been fun. It's been great. Video games were fun. Buy Bitcoin.

No, no. No financial advice. I'm buying Bitcoin. Buy GameStop. It concerns me. I actually don't buy GameStop. No, China bought a bunch of Bitcoin. A lot of Bitcoin.

Oh, yeah. So I wonder why it's skyrocketing, man. They've got the spy, the Chinese spy that was dating the guy. Eric Swalwell. Swalwell. Oh, yeah. So I wonder why it's skyrocketing. They've got the spy, the Chinese spy that was dating the guy. Eric Swalwell. Swalwell. Oh, yeah. Well, that wasn't confirmed that they were dating. Or they were an item for a decade or something.

It wasn't even confirmed that they were an item. She was just helping with like fundraisers and stuff. For a long time, right? Yeah. I mean, she had been around helping people with fundraising here in Washington, D.C. And I wouldn't say here because we're not in washington dc that's where i live but um but basically when it comes to i believe her name is fang fang and uh or christine fang i think that's fang fang fang fang sorry i apologize we had china uncensored on show, and so we got the correct pronunciation. Oh, China Uncensored. Nice, nice.

So, Fong Fong, she had basically embedded herself as a sort of like a, I guess not like a money roller. Basically, someone who would, a cash bundler. That's the best way to put it. Someone who would raise money for different political causes. And then somehow, throughout the running of it all, Eric Swalwell was briefed that she's actually a Chinese spy. And then he basically had to sever all contact with her.

Now, this just happened. McCarthy has tried to remove Swalwell from the Intel Committee over the Chinese spy story. So this is just from the other day. Oh, wow. I believe it did fail, though. They said the resolution

will not likely pass in a Democratic-controlled house. Think about how so this is just from the other day oh wow i believe it did fail though they said the resolution will not likely pass in a democratic controlled house think about how insane this is this dude was being helped a democrat by a chinese spy and they're they're keeping him on the intel committee it's like okay let him stay in office but don't give him access to intel reports they don't care they really don't care that's why i'm saying man i wonder how many of these people are in on the take they know what's coming and they're like got to butter my bread you know how many more spies are there that's one that we found out and now we know that the institutions have been infiltrated by the basically by the concepts of of this you know what 80-year plan that yuri bezmanoff talked about it other other people it's like they've been in here trying to divide us and now they're calling it out

because of their plan. They're basically activating the plan. Well, we do know that there was a Chinese spy that worked in Senator Dianne Feinstein's office. Driver? I think so. I have to confirm that. So this is from back in August of 2018.

Details surface about Senator Feinstein and the Chinese spy who worked for her. That's crazy. I'm pretty sure it was a driver for her. And it's not the first time. We've been infiltrated, man. I mean, Mike Pompeo was saying it earlier last year, about a year ago. He said, we've been infiltrated at every single level.

You name it. Yeah, I mean, it's not surprising at all. I mean, as you said, when you're number one, everyone has a target on your back. Basically, every other country, if we're playing Mario Kart, we're in first place. Every country has a blue shell. Yeah. Yeah. 100%.

Well, you know. Essentially. We were in first place. I wonder if slash when China does overtake us maybe they already did and they're just not going to let us know you know what i mean why would they let us know if they could stay in if they could stay in our ranks forever i mean and focus on us and not them and also not to mention think of the people who are actually in not and this is something that people you know think oh just because you know the chinese they have to be a spy. Think about all the non-Chinese spies that there are.

I mean, they are spies for the Chinese government, but they're not ethically Chinese. But also think about when COVID first started and they lied to the WHO and then the WHO ended up lying to the world. China ordered Chinese citizens in various countries to buy personal protective equipment and ship it back to China so they could use it during the pandemic. While they were lying to us, saying everything's fine, don't worry about it, they were instructing their citizens. These people weren't spies. They were just people who were living in other countries for school or for whatever reason, working at the behest of the Chinese Communist Party. It makes me think of Civilization, the game. Have you ever played that?

It's been a while. Cool game. Have you ever played that? It's been a while. Cool game. And I think the Chinese have overtaken us militarily, but not culturally, not scientifically, I don't think. No, they stole all our intellectual property. Yeah, they steal. They basically are trying to steal to keep up. So they have overtaken us in some ways, definitely militarily, I think. What's that thing where the Thousand Talents Program, where they're buying up these these college professors offering them cash then professors are lying about it getting caught

and getting arrested are you serious yeah yeah yeah there's been a bunch of professors now i miss that who were secretly taking money from china and then some of them got caught they were not reporting this money so they were getting grants from the u.s government and also getting money from the chinese government my god and effectively my understanding is they were sharing this data with the chinese party nazis think about it if you were alive in 1930 what side would you have been on now you get to choose would you will you take their money will you take that nazi money there are a lot of people in america who did that's the problem is that there are too many people who and this is you know obviously because hindsight is 2020 and we always look back and think of if another Holocaust happened, how would we react to it?

I mean it is happening. that seemed like an interesting, you know, that was a very bloody affair that has winded down. But everybody, there were a lot of people in the United States clamoring for intervention, thinking that that was basically another genocide that was taking place. And now we have this situation here in Xinjiang with the Uyghurs being locked up in re-education camps. We're seeing drone footage of them on train platforms, all in jumpsuits, blindfolded, shaved heads, hands and feet bonded up. And that is the closest thing I have ever seen in my life to what we saw in the Holocaust. Closest thing. And I'm still afraid to compare that to the Holocaust because of the what that suggests and so you can

say that the you know they're going to modern day concentration camps that is like as far as that's to the extent that i'll go because there is there is these people are being persecuted for practicing their faith they're people being persecuted for expressing different political views, for people who want democracy in Hong Kong. And all of our, nothing will move, nothing, no needle will move in the right direction because all of our, all of the corporations that were formerly part of the United States have all sold their souls to China.

This time. And will never stand up. Right. For right for a lot of them not all this time the ethno-authoritarians it seems like they're going to win it seemed like that with the Nazis too for a while when they invaded France and took took control of France it was like this is it man the British Winston Churchill would just tell people we're going to survive we're going to get through this. He didn't know. He was just getting their hopes up. For sure. China's not stupid enough to just storm the borders of India necessarily. I mean, the conflict happening on the border with India, what was it? They were fighting with sticks and stones?

Yeah. Because they know there's going to be fighting, but they know what propaganda is. They know information warfare works, and they know what will happen if all the people of the world demand conflict. It's bad enough they got the concentration camps. But a lot of people still will be like, we're not going to do war. It would wipe out the planet. If they stormed into India with guns and took land, then everyone would freak out and say, it's happening anyway. We've got to stop it from happening.

So they know better. They're going to infiltrate. It's going to be cyber attacks. It's going to. Yeah. We got to stop it from happening. So they know better. They're going to infiltrate. It's going to be cyber attacks. It's going to be political warfare. Like who was talking about political warfare? Was that James? Was that James? We had some great guests on this last week.

Or was it Kurt? I don't know. A lot of great people talking about political warfare. And that, yeah, I think it was James. I think so. And we're not prepared for it. They know you got to be very careful about how people view you. And that's why I think when we see these Chinese officials yelling at the U.S. in a rant for 15 minutes saying the U.S. is slaughtering black people, they know what they're doing.

They're trying to show the world they can make God bleed because then there will be blood in the water and the sharks will come. Yeah, I mean, so Eddie Izzard, the comedian, although I think that's a former name. I apologize if I'm getting it wrong. Yeah, I saw that recently. Wears dresses from time to time.

Dresses and drag. He runs marathons. That might be the dead name. Oh, really? Did you change his name? I think so. No, I saw him recently and he still has it. He's amazing. He still goes by Eddie. Genius. As far as I can tell.

Or she goes by Eddie Izzard. I apologize. I think he was a cross-dresser but was not transgender. Anyways, Eddie Izzard, the comedian, said something that was really prescient at the time. And it was sort of like analyzing history history and how, you know, the biggest the biggest mistake that Hitler made was not, you know, anything he had to do within Germany. Those invading other countries, you know, because you have Mao Zedong killed probably most people of any other dictator. Yeah.

Joseph Stalin pulled pot, you know, a number of different dictators. The key the key theme for them and the reason they were able to stay in power is that they never invaded any other countries. And so China came close to it when you had the Korean War, and they were basically trying to impose communism in the Korean Peninsula. Of course, the United States fought back at it, went to stalemate. Now you have North Korea. And now you have China invading many other countries with the Belt and Road Initiative.

Exactly. Economically. Exactly. Culturally. Look, you can't – we talk about this all the time, fourth and fifth generational warfare. What is the purpose of war? You want to gain control of resources and territory, right? Or you want to stop a threat.

Maybe it's preemptive war. But usually it's about gaining access to a resource and certain territory from advantage for your country now how are you going to do that you're going to march in with guns and force people at gunpoint well that creates resistance and opposition right people say no to that or you say ian i'm gonna lend you a hundred bucks so you can go get that that nice new suit you wanted thanks and then we're going to put compounded interest on it so just don't worry sign here and then what happens a week a week goes by and i go where's that ten thousand dollars you owe me buddy and you're like whoa whoa ten thousand like yeah read the deal jimmy break his legs oh that's the game can i borrow another ten thousand they're going to

these people and they're basically they're going to these countries and saying, if you sell your country to me with this deal, you will live like the king of kings. And then when you're dead, we'll take your country. It's a win win, isn't it? And a lot of these people are like works for me. The country will improve. The lives of my people will improve. And then in 50 years, China will be in charge with the with exercising debt and control over our country. Sure. Sure.

Whatever. Short-term gain, long-term losses. They are invading, but they're doing it smart this time. They learned from us. The economic hitmen, which is kind of out of this playbook, they would do that. They would say, hey, we're going to give you a big loan, try and buy you out. And if the people refused, then they would try and assassinate the leader. And if they couldn't get to the guy, then they would declare all-out war um it seems like the chinese aren't trying step two at all they're

like they're very light about this slow long bribery they play the long game but but listen definitely you only need step one when they go to one country and say we're going to give you all this money to help you with your infrastructure and that country says no they go to one country and say, we're going to give you all this money to help you with your infrastructure, and that country says no, they go, okay, well, then we'll give it to your neighbor. Good luck surviving. And they'll go, wait, wait, wait. That's the end of the game. People know that in these countries, they might have pressure where it's like, we've got conflict with these different groups, with these different tribes, with these different countries, governments. And so if China starts arming and building up their infrastructure, how long will you last? That's how it's going to play out. And now you can see with these Chinese

officials basically making a mockery of the U.S. saying you're not coming from. They literally said it is wrong to say you're coming from from a position of strength. People in your own country don't trust your own democracy. You're slaughtering black people. They smack down the U.S. for 15 minutes. And what do we do? We fight. We have flame wars. We have culture wars. We are a silly people. I think I think the U.S. is facing some kind of fracturing. But a lot of people talk about a peaceful divorce. I think we've already broken apart. You know, I talked about this before, right? Joe Biden comes out and says, you know, we come on, man, you know, we need new restrictions for COVID. And Texas and Florida are like, nah, if if you don't have red states trusting the president and agreeing to work together towards

a common goal, then then the president just represents the blue states. Maybe maybe they're look, I'm a young guy, I guess young enough. Maybe there were periods in American history where states half the states were saying no to the president. Maybe maybe that was 100 and some odd years ago the last time we had a civil war, right? Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't think we're going to civil war. It's not going to be what you think it is. It's not going to be civil war is informational, right? Not with arms. That's exactly what I be. Well, the Civil War is informational. Right. It's not with arms. That's exactly what I'm saying.

It's fourth and fifth generational warfare. Yeah. So the point I'm making is we're well past that point. Like China's not going to march into India with guns. They're going to buy more and more land. They're doing it. They're buying up property in the U.S. like crazy. They're buying up property in Brazil like crazy.

And then their citizens naturally just move into these areas and then live in these places using the existing laws. They don't need to march in with guns when they can march with economics. Same thing in the United States. The civil war we're experiencing is the culture war is a cold civil war there. I shouldn't even say it's cold because people have literally been shot and killed, notably in Portland, for instance. But it's not like factions with armies marching towards each other. The issue is the best example is Joe Biden comes out, talks about COVID, Florida, Texas, other red states just look at Joe Biden and say, buzz off. We do not take your

advice and we do not care what you think. So you got blue states saying you got it, Joe, and red states saying we don't agree with the president. We are already split into two different realities. You want to live like normal? Florida's awaiting. You go, you don't got to wear a mask anymore. You can go shopping, go to the movies. Everything's back to normal. Go to New York.

New York is now the epicenter again. And they're saying, oh no, it's bad. We got to do more lockdowns. You go to Europe. Europe's locking down like crazy. Here in the US to see blue states go the exact opposite direction of red states. No unity at all. I do find that interesting, though.

I mean, like, the division has been happening for a while. I mean, just look at, you know, rewind 10 years ago. I mean, think of how many states just rejected, you know, Obamacare coming into their states. Exactly. That's why a lot of people do believe Obama was the time that this this division happened but i'm like look i think it started before that right you can reduce it further and further look at al gore and george w bush yeah it was a supreme court appointment of a president no matter what you believe there's half the country who believes bush only became president because the supreme court intervened right now there's a lot of people

who say no no george bush won fair and, no. The realities are divergent at that point. There's Democrats who are saying it was stolen, it was stolen, it was stolen. And there you go. Then you get eight years of that, then Obama comes in. Then you get people were accusing, were claiming it was stolen back then. Like even Donald Trump was saying that, you know, Mitt Romney. And the interesting thing about that is a lot of people tied the Supreme Court fight of the 2000 election to distracting our intelligence agencies from what al-qaeda was up to in the lead up that's right 11 because there was no transition the transition was so it was so rocky it was delayed and it was busted up yeah between the clinton and the bush administrations, a lot of people look at that as the one area where Al Qaeda basically made its move to enact, to basically attack the United States through 9-11. I think that was where we saw a big political split.

But an interesting thing happened in 2008 with the economic crisis because we had Ben Stewart here. He was talking about Strauss-Howe generational theory. Are you familiar with that? No, I'm not. It's this theory that there are four seasons. A season lasts 20 years. You've got spring, summer, fall, and winter. After winter, this great conflict, this great crisis, comes a spring where everything is really good. The economy blossoms and booms. Then you have a summer where it's maintained and people are happy. Then a fall where things are getting shaky and chaotic. And

then a winter again where the chaos breaks out. right now we are in the winter period 80 years ago the end of the last winter was world war ii 80 years before that it was the civil war 80 years before that the revolutionary war and apparently they've mapped out like all of these things that they've happened every 80 years because it's based on generations are you familiar with that saying strong men make good times good good men uh strong men make good times good times make weak men weak men make hard times hard times make strong men it's similar to that idea that when you have a generation of people who fought through the trenches and many who didn't survive only the strongest survive and come back and create a flourishing, strong society of prosperity. Their children inherit that world and don't necessarily understand what it took to create it.

The next generation inherits a world where they just feel entitled to it, which leads to chaos and collapse. Interesting. So it feels like, you know, we're basically in this period now where we can expect, I guess, the winter is here. It's going to get bad. And it's supposed to end around 2028. But my point was, the point I wanted to get to with 2008 was when we talk about when the political divide started and when chaos started to happen, they predicted in the 90s when they wrote this book called The Fourth Turning. That in 2008, when boomers became eligible for Social Security, the economic system was going to collapse. Perhaps everything we know about what caused the crisis, mortgage-backed securities and

things like that, was actually just all the boomers now demanding their entitlements that didn't exist and figuring out how to cover it up. Not cover it up, but to. Not cover it up. But like. Cover the costs of this. When you look at the M1 money supply. It's slowly stagnant over several decades. 2008 happens. It increases by like. By a factor of 10 or whatever.

It's just like. Spikes upward. Money creation is going up rapidly. Then the pandemic hits. Skyrockets straight up. They change the way they report. The money stock. Mid pandemic, and now no one knows for sure.

But you can see 2008, where the money supply just goes boom and takes a sharp turn upward. Maybe mortgage-backed security crisis. They were giving out homes to everybody, and people couldn't pay for it. Or maybe our financial system was broken. We knew it was broken. It was predicted that it was going to break and then it broke. I've heard that this theory that they used COVID as an excuse to print because they had to print because everything was falling apart. It's a conspiracy.

Was it you who was telling me this? Someone basic. I think it was you who mentioned this. They were saying that Democrats made bad bets and investments that went sour and was going to completely disrupt pensions and 401ks and retirement plans. Was it you who said that? Who told us that? I don't remember hearing that. Yeah, I was hearing there's a conspiracy theory that what actually happened was COVID's legit

and we had a pandemic, we had a crisis, and we had 15 days to slow the spread. However, the economic crisis was real. We're supposed to have, you know, they say every 10 years is like an economic downturn of some sorts. And we kind of dodged that for some reason. I heard a conspiracy theory. I'm not saying it's true. I'm saying it's literally probably not true that Democrats made bad bets with, you know, unions made bad bets. They could, you know, they made bad investments.

The investments soured. And then when COVID hit, they knew that there was going to be a serious collapse of retirement funds and people's 401ks and things like that. So they were like, we need to bail out. We saw all these blue states. Now this, this part is true. You know, Cuomo, for instance, being like New York needs money. And Trump was like, shove it too bad. Run your state better. Now we get the $1.9 trillion stimulus. And Republicans are calling it a bailout for blue states that are poorly managed. So I don't know about those conspiracies. I mean, yeah, they had the $2.2 trillion stimulus a year ago.

Right. And it's covering the, I mean, look, New York's crumbling. The metro, for instance, the MTA, they're struggling to repair it. They're not making enough money as to how much it costs so you had that whole situation with with aoc where amazon was going to come in bring these 40 000 jobs potentially 30 billion dollars over 10 years they needed that money to fix their train systems that didn't it didn't happen and i i guess interestingly enough with the amount of people that are probably leaving new york because of the lockdowns, I can imagine they're probably going to be making way for, you know, a vacuum of sorts.

But I wonder, man. I mean, Bill de Blasio said he's going to buy up these buildings, turn it into public housing. I wonder if the economy is just worse than we realize. And they're not going to tell us because panic would only make it worse, right? Well, yeah, obviously. If they came out and said, my fellow Americans, several large unions with hundreds of thousands of members put their money in dangerous places and lost the retirements of millions of middle-class Americans, this is going to result in a ripple effect that wipes out. If they said something like that, people would freak out. Oh, 100%.

Crash the banks. Remember, exactly. Remember what George W. bush said after 9-11 which part how old are you i'm 33 all right so you should remember this yeah he said go buy stuff he said go buy stuff well because the attack the 9-11 attack was in addition to being an actual terrorist attack on the people, it was an attack on their financial center. And what he was basically saying was, if you want to help, go out and buy things to keep the economy moving. When that attack happened and people are panicking, you get a natural reaction from a lot of people to stock up store up save your money and bunker down right and he was like no no the machine's got to keep churning you need to keep the machine going so we generate taxes so we can pay for this stuff so we can build new things go buy stuff

that's a scary prospect because that can't last forever can it right so so i don't know exactly you know if any conspiracies are true i would actually argue they're probably not. That's why we call them conspiracies. But I will say you can look at the crisis in 2008, the mass printing of money. It was only a matter of time before we were going to see that bubble burst. It could not be maintained. Do you remember how much the 2008 bailout was for? It was like for $989 million. I'm sorry, billion.

That was what was on the books. I'm reading an article here from – That's too small this article from mit quotes a 2015 forbes article that says we've paid back 4.6 trillion of the 16.8 trillion that we committed to that bailout over i don't know how many years 15 or 20 years or something now this is forbes reporting that um i don't if if we secretly committed 16 trillion in 2008 and we're still paying it back maybe that's another explanation for why they just flooded the market with 12 trillion dollars dude dude the federal reserve the fractional banking fractional reserve system it is a stack

of cards it is literally a ponzi scheme and it works because we have guns so at a certain point it's gonna fall apart like you guys understand Like you guys understand how banking in this country works, right? The fractional reserve, as far as I understand, is the Federal Reserve will loan a bank a million dollars. The bank then can loan out 90% of that. So they can loan out $900,000. They need to keep 10% on reserve. But that loan is creating the money supply. So when you give $100 to a bank, they can then loan out $90, which is created on the books.

And then to another bank. Then that other bank takes that $90 and can loan out $81. Not necessarily. They loan it to you. So I put $100 in the bank of Ian. Then the bank of Ian is able to give a $90 loan to the Bank of – to Siraj as an individual. Siraj then – I don't get my own bank?

You don't get your own bank. Not yet. But then you deposit your $90. You deposit your $90 into the Bank of Lydia. Now Lydia can loan out 90%. Whoa, whoa. Guys, this sounds a little bit racist. Talk about it.

Well, I don't got a bank either. Oh, I thought you just said you had a bank. Change the Federal Reserve here. So the point is a bank gives an individual money. The individual puts't got a bank either. Oh, I thought you just said you had a bank. It's the Federal Reserve. So the point is, a bank gives an individual money. The individual puts it in a bank. That bank then loans out. Then an individual loans and puts it back in a bank. So it's just basically a stack of cards.

It's basically a game of hot potato. And where the debt keeps stacking up, the interest becomes impossible to pay. And then Obama signs a massive stimulus. The money printing goes out of control this was predictable a long time ago i mean when did we go off the gold standard that was 1970 i think yeah the 72 uh 72 73 shock you know do you know what the issue there was it's really really simple if all four of us here in this room are trading you know one dollar between each other so it's like i give Ian a dollar in exchange for a high five.

Then Ian gives Siraj a dollar in exchange for a high five. The only way to get that high five is to have the dollar and make it to you. So at one point, I decide, you know what? I don't want to have to give away a high five to get that dollar. I want all the high fives for myself. So I tell all of you, hey, guys, I'm going to manage the money printer. Don't worry. I'll make sure everything's good.

And then when you guys aren't paying attention, I just print money for myself. I don't do any work. Basically, what happens is we're able to fund all of these wars and all this conflict because the Fed can print out money, loan it to whoever they want without contributing anything to society. We've got missing, missing trillions of dollars on the books or whatever from the Pentagon, some, some nonsense. We've not audited the Fed. We need to figure out how much money is being printed, who it's going to, and we don't know. At a certain point, if they can just snap their fingers and create money on the books and we don't understand the system, other people are exploiting it, the house of cards is going to fall over.

That's it. And, I mean, you inspired me to make a great idea. I'm definitely going to start charging people for high fives. Yes. That's a good way to make a great idea. I'm definitely gonna start charging people for high fives Yes, particularly to go specifically kids You know if this is another aspect of the situation that bothers me is the oil economy because because it's so obvious that we're moving Off an oil economy on like a nuclear economy or something Well, but there's a lot of people still have an aversion to nuclear so I don't think that's gonna write nuclear nuclear fission

People are afraid of the dirtiness of corium meltdowns But like fusion or like thorium reactors which also type of nuclear, which isn't dirty, doesn't have corium byproduct. So, I mean, it's amazing tech, but there's this massive resistance because if we go off oil, they can't extort the rest of the world to use our dollar anymore. I mean, they bring up a valid point i mean think of how much oil runs our our society um and moving off of that i mean that's why there's such a huge push to obviously not go towards solar and wind it's because that i mean not i mean it's not it's not it's not it's not it's not efficient right it's not efficient we had batteries but also because the entire push is obviously like you know you got to focus on the coal industry.

You got to focus on the oil and gas industry. And, you know, we as a nation are very conservative when it comes to changing where we're getting that money from. Like the battery industry. Elon Musk had to make a company to build them. I know. Because the government wouldn't do it. Well, why should the government do it anyway? So that we can get us off oil.

But they don't want us off oil. They want us to keep buying tanks of oil to keep in our base, right? That's probably what... I mean, besides what people think of Elon Musk's opinions. I mean, Elon Musk is a... In many ways, he is a trailblazer because he is creating a renewable source of energy, but also commercializing space flight and to the powers that be, whatever that may be. That's a threat.

Because, you know, if you cede that power to Elon Musk. One word, bro. China. China. They're not going to stop using fossil fuels. Fossil fuels have an excellent energy return and energy invested. So we, these good and noble Americans, know that solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, you know, tidal and hydro, you know, dam electricity, all of these things are great, cleaner alternatives. They don't produce that carbon emission, but they don't have a high enough return on the

energy investment. In fact fact to build solar panels requires a ton of oil wind wind turbines as well plus we don't have the batteries for them so the batteries yeah so we need a continuous supply so fusion is uh would be fantastic nuclear power absolutely but you know the activists don't want that either yeah and i have to wonder why that is, because that can really make us powerful. Yeah, I mean, if someone figures out a way

to make a car run on Dreams and Starlight, it's over. Oh yeah, definitely, because then we're going to build spaceships and rockets and lasers. Theoretically, what would happen if we went off the oil economy? Not that we stopped using it, but that we stopped relying on it tomorrow because everyone had batteries and could charge everything.

Well, we'd still have to kill people overseas. Right. Yeah. We got to make sure that we're bombing those kids. Otherwise, these other rambunctious countries will stop bending the knee to us. Oh, my God. Would China gain power or lose power in the hegemony? If we get off the petrodollar, China just, it's done.

They take over. Because we couldn't extort our allies to fight for us? Allies? Who do you think we're extorting? We're extorting. Who is buying our oil? What are you talking about?

Everybody hates us. Yeah. Even our allies hate us. Is Britain buying our oil? Everybody. Everybody. We're a net exporter of oil. It's not just that.

Let's say you're the country of Ian, right? And I'm the United States. Oh, do I get my own country? Yeah, actually, you're the federation. The grand principality of the federation of the list. The federation of the list. It's multiple countries. You get multiple countries. Excellent. So we've got this trade federation

over here, and we've got the country of Ian, and I'm the United States. Okay, I want oil. It's really simple. Hey, Fed, print me a trillion dollars so i can buy oil they do i buy oil thanks guys for all your hard work then ian says yo i want oil too okay well if you want these dollars you got to pay up give me your money and i'll give you some dollars i'll give you some of my in currency and you're like no no no you need my currency to buy my oil exactly you need to buy my currency it's not it's not my oil it's your oil you it in your country, and we forced you to put it on the international market. And if you want to buy it back, you buy dollars from us first.

Now, your trade federation, same deal. It's the oil produced in your own countries put on the international market. If you want some of it, you got to buy it in U.S. dollars. So trade for me, and I'll give you what i think is fair what ends up happening is many countries have to be net exporters in order to keep this the strength of their currency sound so they can buy u.s dollars in order to buy oil even if it's produced by them or someone else so we know what happens to countries that talk about getting off the petrodollar muammammar Gaddafi, he wanted to trade in dinars. He died. Cuba,

Venezuela, North Korea. Saddam Hussein, he said, why not the euro? And he died. It's a really weird coincidence how that happens, you know what I mean?

Maduro's a villain. And then there's the Qatar-Turkey pipeline, right? The US wanted to build a natural gas pipeline through Syria and Turkey into Europe. And then,

Syria fell into civil war. What a coincidence. It's really funny how all that goes down, isn't it? That is interesting. Syria and Turkey into Europe. And then Syria fell into civil war. What a coincidence. Yeah. It's really funny how all that goes down, isn't it? That is interesting. So if we stop using – if oil stops being that like principal source of energy, then we don't have leverage over these other countries. Fiscally, yeah. Yeah.

If fusion technology became rampant, like just ubiquitous, and then all of a sudden we go to you know this one country and we're like yo you haven't been calling to buy dollars and oil from us and they're like oh we got fusion we're good really good example you guys ever watch rick and you yeah yep yep i know exactly you're talking about the battery the battery episode right so so it sounds like slavery with extra steps exactly so so in in this show rick car breaks down. And his battery is a microverse or whatever. It's a microverse, yeah. Yeah. So inside it, he's got this little universe where he tells all these people to step on these platforms.

It's like a DDR. Yeah. Dance, dance revolution. Dance, dance revolution. And it generates electricity, which he siphons some off of. But then there's a scientist in that universe who creates another microscopic universe and so basically what happens is rick shows up and he's like yo what's going on you're not making electricity anymore and they're like don't worry we figured it out we don't need you anymore so then he threatens to destroy their universe

unless they get back to generating his power for him so the u.s if we get one of these smaller countries some small Middle Eastern country, all of a sudden they, boom, fusion ignition. We got clean running energy. It is generating tons and tons of power. And they go, we don't need oil anymore.

Well, all of a sudden, the U.S. is going to be like, hey, we haven't heard from Ian Country in a little bit. What's going on? Don't they need dollars to buy oil? So they show up one day on a diplomatic mission

and they go, so you guys, is something wrong? Do you need oil? No, nothing's wrong. Everything's great. We have fusion now. You have fusion. And then he pulls out his barrette, and he clicks it, and he goes, bang.

And then he goes, problem solved, guys. Anybody else want to use fusion power? So look, look, I'm being very, very facetious. It's much more complicated than that. It's not so simple. It's not like the U.S. is a gigantic supervillain of a nation, but that is a big concern. I do believe if we ever actually reached fusion ignition, the U.S. would quickly use that to reshape the world in its favor. I don't think the U.S. is purposefully holding back electrical technologies, you know.

And it gets back to your point about china because we're too all of our interests all of our politicians are basically sold out to them and there's no there's going to be no concerted effort or urgency to switch over to that because the power again the status quo is that oil runs everything if you want to win re-lection, you got to continue making sure that the oil industry is satisfied. It's not just that. So even if we perfect nuclear or fusion, it's going to take a long time and a lot of energy. How much can we allocate in that direction? The fear is China's building new coal power plants. They're absolutely exploiting fossil fuels, and fossil fuels have a tremendously high energy return on energy invested.

So if the U.S. shifts to renewable energies or developing new power plants, we are at a disadvantage. China is rapidly expanding and growing, and it seems like we're losing that fight anyway. So at this point, get the fusion online, baby. Do you think that there's a concerted effort behind the scenes for the United States and China to divide the world between them with a petrodollar economy? And they're letting us bicker about human rights violations, but they don't really care because for them it's business. No, what do you mean?

China is about to overtake the US and the US is flailing and flopping about. But they know we could never go to war because of the nuclear conflict. So they're like, that's not true. I mean, well, no, that we should never go to war. I mean, both governments should never go to war for any reason. And nobody ever really wanted war. I think there are some people, I guess, a military industrial complex once war or like when there's like a marauding force slaughtering humans and you need to intercede like ISIS. Bro, nukes will be fired if the Huns nukes will be fired if war breaks.

Right. So they don't want nobody really wants that, I don't think. But I wonder if there's this business class is using both these countries to basically partition the globe. And that's why there hasn't been a move on the human rights violations and the Uyghurs at all. I don't think there's any grand plan to partition the globe. That's just – that's too much. I think the grand plan is ultimately decoupling uh you mentioned obviously does this aggression happen under any other administration

it has but this would be the trajectory that china would be going down regardless of whether trump or biden was in office now right um because the idea is that right now, a lot of these global corporations, they can live off of basically selling a set of products just to the Chinese citizens and then a set of products to the rest of the world. Like they will actually manufacture stuff differently for two different audiences or two different consumer groups. I mean, that's true for a lot of factories. You know that, right? Yeah. Like when you go to Walmart to buy a TV, you're getting a different TV than if you buy it at Best Buy.

People don't realize that. And I mean it. So if you go and there's a Sony or like, you know, a Samsung TV at Walmart made with different materials than the Samsung TV at Best Buy. Same model, different materials? Yeah. That's my understanding. You know, I can fact check me on this one.

I could be wrong. Well, I know Google specifically tailors their search algorithms for different countries, different regions. What do you mean you if you google search right now anybody listening if you google search auto repair are they going to send you new york auto repair no they're going to know exactly where you are and they're going to show you auto repair they actually give different tech like different coding of their browsers and stuff like they gave china a specific browser that could be used to track the people if i'm not mistaken because china wouldn't let

google into the country so they had to like build a specific well they were working on what was that thing called dragon something and then they got google employees revolted yeah dragonfly something google employees revolted that uh google was working with china so then google backed off google's response was well if we don't go in and do this, someone else will. At least then we'll have some control. It's like, no, you won't. If you go when these companies go to China and they do, they have to open up a CCP wing of their company. They create like a division of the Chinese Communist Party and their companies. So I'll tell you this.

If the NBA, if this is true, this is what we heard from china uncensored if the nba has a company a branch operating in china that would imply the chinese communist party has influence in the nba in the united states as well as in china because they'll they'll go to them and say case in point when the nba banned the phrase free hong kong on customizable jerseys remember this yeah i remember that that was in america why because the nba in china the chinese went to them and said don't allow people in free Hong Kong on customizable jerseys. Do you remember this? Yeah, I remember that. That was in America. Why? Because the NBA in China, the Chinese went to them and said, don't allow people in America to say free Hong Kong. They went, you got it, buddy.

And so when you try to type it in, it'll give you an error. Right. Look, I mean, dude, we had Blizzard, the gaming company. They have the game Hearthstone. One of the people competing held up a sign that said free Hong Kong. And so the player got suspended, created a huge controversy. And then a huge controversy and then they're like no no they got suspended because it was political in general and we're not all about that it's like oh dude we get it it's because you have people you have a branch in china and china told you so we're already there chinese

communist party has its tendrils across the globe and whether anyone realizes it or not i mean bill maher said it we We lost. Yeah. We lost already. I don't know. That is very pessimistic of him to say that. I think that we're definitely losing the military game. But if it's a grand game of Civ and you can win with religion, with culture, with military, with science. I don't think they're winning across the board. They're really, really totalitarian.

The people hate it in China, from what I can tell. They're just not allowed to say it. So we got that working for us. You said something about decoupling. I wanted to just... Yeah, so decoupling means that trade between the United States and China, it cessates. There's no more trade. And so whatever relations that did exist no longer exist. And so

you basically would have to rely on any manufacturing company that would exist. Say an Apple or a, not Disney, but let's just focus on Apple for a second. If Apple was manufacturing iPhones in China and say the United States and China decouple, then all of a sudden Apple has to figure out how they're going to manufacture their stuff and be able to sell that over in the United States and the rest of the world. And overnight, that factory in China becomes property of China. Exactly. And then they have the iPhone factories, and they make iPhones for themselves, and then

we don't. Yeah. Let's move to US media real quick, because I want to advance the conversation a bit. We have this tweet from Glenn Greenwald, which is going to blow everybody's minds. Oh, God. Glenn tweeted, if you're a critic of the media, you need to hear this. Glenn Greenwald tweeted, read this amazing section from Judge Silberman's dissent today in a defamation case before the D.C. Circuit on how an increasingly ideological, ideologically homogenized U.S.

media is not only threatening core free speech values, but also the ability to be informed. In his dissent, he wrote, it is well accepted that viewpoint discrimination raises the specter that the government may effectively drive certain ideas or viewpoints from the marketplace. But ideological homogeneity in the media, or in the channels of information distribution risks rep risks repressing certain ideas from the public consciousness, just as surely as if access were restricted by the government. To be sure, there are a few notable exceptions to the Democratic Party ideological control.

Fox News, The New York Post, The Wall Street Journal's editorial page. It should be sobering for those concerned about news bias that these institutions are controlled by a single man and his son. Will a lone holdout remain in what is otherwise a frighteningly orthodox media culture? After all, there are serious efforts to muzzle Fox News. And although upstart, mainly online conservative networks have emerged in recent years, I think it might go on. No, so he doesn't continue from there.

But I'll read the next the next section that Glenn posts. He said it should be born in the mind that the first step taken by any potential authoritarian or dictatorial regime is to gain control of communications, particularly the particularly the delivery of news. It is fair to conclude, therefore, that one party control of the press and media is a threat to a viable democracy. It may even give rise to countervailing extremism. The First Amendment guarantees a free press to foster a vibrant trade and ideas, but a biased press can distort the marketplace. And when the media has proven its willingness, if not eagerness, to so distort, it is a profound mistake to stand by unjustified legal rules that serve only to enhance the press's power.

Absolutely amazing to hear that. But maybe it's too little too late. But I'll tell you this. It is absolutely true. how sobering as judge silverman describes it that the main resistance to democratic orthodoxy in the media is murdoch so they said it's one really old man and his son is that what they're talking about murdoch's son lachlan lachlan yeah but isn't is lachlan the one isn't isn't he woke or something yeah it's over everybody uh back it in we're going home and uh welcome to your new cult i think we're incredibly resilient as humans so if someone

is speaking out against it that means that means we have a chance maybe so it's a dissent i mean is this is is this too little too late i absolutely think think it is, man. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe I'm look, there's a lot of people watching this show right now. And this is not a you know what? No, no, no. I was going to say we're not ideological here, but we are absolutely ideologically motivated here. Classically liberal, libertarian and socially liberal values represent the conversations

we have here for the most part. There's a reason. It's really fascinating why leftists are so hard to book, because they're an authoritarian orthodoxy. It's very hard to speak safely when you exist inside the confines of their moral framework. That's why I've done numerous interviews. I did an interview in Berkeley with this woman. I'm standing in the street and I'm filming. Some woman walks up and starts talking to me and I'm holding my camera. I asked her some questions. She answered. She gave horrible answers. Five minutes later, she walks up to me and says, delete the footage. No joke. And I said, I'm filming and you walked up to me. I'm not deleting

it. And she was like, no, you have to. I don't give you permission. And I was like, I don't need your permission. You're in public talking to me while I'm filming. I don't try to generate controversy, though, so I blurred her face. I'm not trying to drag her. I'm not trying to get some random woman on the street in trouble with the woke. But I did want to show what she had basically said was, conservatives who get physically attacked deserve it because of the way they dress. She said there was a woman wearing a MAGA hat.

She was asking for it. No joke. No joke. And so the issue there is when you think about the moral framework that exists in the minds of these people, when they say women who are wearing certain clothes aren't asking for it, but when it comes to Trump supporters, they are. It shows there's no actual principle behind their moral framework other than join the tribe or burn.

She wanted me to delete the footage because her ideas would get her canceled. When people heard what she said, you can't stick your neck out. So many of these people, they do their shows, the priests of the orthodoxy. The guests we have on this show who are more than happy to come and speak are confident in themselves, in classically liberal ideals of freedom of speech and being and being honest expressing themselves and they're not scared about what the woke mob is going to do to them well that's i mean i think you're that's an overstatement for me since i have a very low self-esteem which is why i got into media so that my parents would know this who i am there you go as as for most

of these journalists who work at mainstream publications. Yeah, you know, that's interesting. And that's that dissent, you know, I don't as as groundbreaking as that may be or earth shattering as that may be. If that were, say, any other if that were a celebrity that had, like, say, a red pill moment, it said something like that. Maybe Sarah Silverman. Yeah. that had like say a red pill moment that said something like that maybe sarah silverman yeah she came out recently and said i don't want to be associated with either party because of the elitism and the absolute well uh what's her name um oh the name is escaping rose mcgowan oh yeah definitely when she had her moment that was big that was huge especially in the in the middle of

the presidential election she's like i don't what the the accusations of tara presidential election. She's like, I don't... The accusations of Tara Reade against then-candidate Joe Biden was enough for me. And the way it was handled from her charmed co-star Alyssa Milano, that was enough for her to be like, I'm done. That's it.

I want to be optimistic right now. You know why? They're not cool people. Who wants to be like them? You know, do you want to be one of these like easily agitated, panicky, finicky, woke culture warriors working for one of these publications? Some people, but it's remnants of the old world, right? So the New York Times has prestige. The great was the gray lady, the paper of record. Young people grow up millennials hearing great stories about the

prestigious the prestigious new york times it is my dream to be a times journalist congratulations they hired you and now you complain about tiktokers is that what you really thought you were going to be doing or did you think you were going to be like meeting in a parking garage and some like source walks up and he's got a manila folder and he's like please don't tell anyone i was here otherwise they'll kill me and you're like don, don't worry. I'm going to expose these criminals. And then in reality, you're like, so the 17 year old on TikTok, you're never going to believe this. Like as a TikTok mention, right? But then like one of his friends showed up. That's what the New York times has become. Who wants to be that today? What young person who's actually on TikTok

is looking at what, what, what these journalists at the New York times are and going, I really want to be like that when I grow up. They're not doing that. So what's happening now is these woke culture warriors of cancel culture at these big publications are not cool. And nobody wants to be like them. Young people especially. Have you ever seen the show The Boys? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, of course. No, it's very – i don't know why this conversation reminds me of that but it's specifically in the storyline of the first season with starlight who is trying to get into the seven of vaught she wants it's for those that aren't familiar she she's a superhero she wants to join the big superhero organization right yeah so and then she gets there and, obviously, this is all a big charade. This is a corporate entity. They don't care about actually saving people's lives.

They care about the money flow. And so if you haven't watched it, I highly recommend it. Good show. It is a good show, which it got off Amazon Prime because we're now basically pumping up Jeff Bezos' numbers. That's right. But it kind of shows that classical trope of don't meet your heroes. Right. She really, really wanted to be this big hero, join this big organization, and then she realized it was actually really awful.

Everyone sucked. Yeah. And she didn't want to be there anymore. But I think it's – But that is very much media today. No, but it's worse than that. No, I know. Well, I mean we're talking about a fictional show and comparing it to media.

Here's what I mean. In the show The Boys, The Seven, which is like the Justice League, they're cool. They're celebrities. Everybody wants to be them. They're in the movies. They got endorsement deals. Who wants to go work for the Daily Beast to write about, I don't know, cats or something stupid that's nonsensical and made up? Who wants to be that when they grow up?

Nobody. So here's my point. We've talked about how movies today going woke are becoming like Christian films used to be. You know, like good – what is it? Good flicks or whatever? Yeah, pure flicks. Pure flicks. And everybody always laughs and then like jokingly ribs me for like hey don't make fun of

pure flicks it's like watching those really like really campy religious versions of films with like bible man or whatever and veggie tales and stuff as as these as look as the woke as the woke cult takes over hollywood movies become preachy boring and nonsensical and uncool. You got to watch. Have you seen the new craft? No, you will absolutely hate it. You know why? I don't care about the wokeness.

It's not a good movie. It makes no sense. The pacing is off. I have no idea what the message is. And it's just like nothing happens, I guess. And then a guy burst into flames or something. The whole movie is a woke PSA where they just keep giving off woke potshots of like they'll be walking on the street and then one person makes a comment about being trans. And you're like, what does that have to do with the movie? Like, why is this dialogue in the film?

Because they want to make sure, you know, they're woke. The wokeness is more important in the storyline. Thus, they've created something boring that nobody wants to engage with. The movie will fail. And then kids will grow up thinking, that's not cool. I don't want to be like that. If it's not cool and doesn't inspire youth, it won't exist. Who are your heroes? My heroes?

They're mostly rappers, but they're not really heroes. I don't know. I mean, I actually, no. My heroes are like my dad, my grandpa, like my legitimate heroes, people I think are like through and through the greatest people I know. And I don't, the thing is,

and that's exactly what it is. The never meet your heroes. I don't have any like celebrity heroes. Well, you said rappers. I like rappers. I love hip hop. And heroes. Well, you said rappers. I like rappers. I love hip-hop. There are inspirations in how I can make music. I love them so much.

My heroes are Dave Grohl, Eddie Vedder, man. It's musicians. It's real people. Yeah, I know they're real people. But that's the thing. I'm terrified of the potential of meeting any of them because of how. Yeah. Super flawed.

But they still inspire you. Yeah. It's not. Oh, bro. We all met our inspiration. Listen, listen. Who are your heroes? I don't have any heroes.

Did you used to? Never. Like growing up, you never. Nope. Watch people or. No, I'm too arrogant. I'm not even kidding. Like I would watch skate videos and they'll be like a pro who's like the best in the world.

And I may sit in there going, I can do that. My friends would be like, shut up. You're not going to tray flip a 10 stair. Oh, you need a new friend. And I'm like, oh, yeah? Yeah, yeah. And then I would go and throw myself down the stairs and get hurt. Let's go.

Well, the reason I brought it up is because- I was not that good, but I was certainly arrogant enough to think I was. My heroes are not these people that write these pieces. I don't think anyone looks up to these people and thinks, I want to be like that guy that wrote that piece. They look at musicians. They look at great performers. That's the real challenge in life. And it's mostly a way

of how they think because musicians just generally think a different way. They see sounds. They can compose music. They can create stuff out of thin air and it's and it just resonates with i i think like it gives you chills and you hear it like when you hear your favorite song like you ever get chills down your spine when you hear that

all the time music affects us physiologically right like you know the beats it's like and it affects our brains in certain ways it triggers emotions and we like feeling good and we like we like being made to feel. So we like the people who make us feel that way. But there's something interesting about it. I will say, though, we've already met our heroes because of Twitter. And they were all awful. Look, I would never – I don't look up to actors.

And I don't care for actors. I think they're just actors. And I've never understood the obsession with, like, celebrity. I've always just been like, I don't care. I don't care. Who cares? Bernie shaved their head, whatever. But now we get to actually meet these people and we learned, you know, Chris Evans, for

instance, Mark Ruffalo, they're really nasty people, right? Chris Evans is okay. He's kind of nasty. Mark Ruffalo is one of the meanest people I've ever, I've ever seen on the internet. It's like he just posts nasty things. David Cross, also a mean guy. And I'm surprised at how many comedians and celebrities are just nasty. seen on the internet it's like he just posts nasty things david cross also a mean guy and i'm surprised at how many comedians and celebrities are just nasty it's really messed up you look at

joe rogan's twitter what do you see instagram instagram posts of like him eating steak and like his dog yes and people like joe rogan you know why because when you see him for who he is you're like oh he seems like a cool dude but then you turn to like some of these other comedians and movie the actors and stuff and they're just posting nasty things screaming posting pictures of decapitated trump heads and you're like i don't want to be around that well i mean you know this is this is kind of why the list exists the list the list of people who should have their phones taken people should have their phones taken away because it's designed to save people from themselves and the reason for that is because as you mentioned people are really nasty online but People should have their phones taken away because it's designed to save people from themselves.

And the reason for that is because, as you mentioned, people are really nasty online. But if you don't enforce the list, then what does the list really do? Well, that's why I went independent, Tim. Oh, yeah. Tell us about that. There's going to be like two guys in suits showing up to like Brian Seltzer's house, knocking on the door and be like, Brian, it's time. And they take his phone from him. Boom. If I could do that, I'd do that right away. Brian Seltzer's house, knocking on the door, and be like, Brian, it's time. And they take his phone from him. Boom. If I could do that, I'd do that right away.

Brian Seltzer specifically. I'm looking for seed money. Anybody interested? Yeah, you're launching... My Twitter DMs are open. You're launching a network. The Siraj The Habibi Network? Yeah. So you just went live. Just went solo. Yeah. Today

is my final day. That's big, dude. Yeah. So maybe what you make will actually be something inspirational to young people. And they'll be like, when I grow up, I want to make a list of people who should have their phones taken away. Well, the idea is that I don't do it forever. And I basically.

No, but you got to pass the list on. I got to pass the list on. But no, hold on. It's like the Captain America shield. But listen, this is what I'm talking about. The list is important. You know why? Because it's funny. It's hilarious. And people block you But listen, this is what I'm talking about. The list is important. You know why? Because it's funny.

It's hilarious. And people block you when you put them on the list. For those that aren't familiar. By the way, your guest from yesterday, Kurt Schlichter, he blocked me because I put him on the list. Nice. All right. So basically the way it works is someone tweets something really dumb. And then if it qualifies for like you should have your phone taken away for tweeting that, you'll tweet at like it's a meme post there's one there was one i think of the writing hand emojis right

there was one of you as consuela from family guy i think one of you in a truck full of people with a coyote driving the car yeah and all the blue checks being taken away it's funny people see it and they laugh there's going to be some young kid who's seeing the world of politics he sees someone like brian stelter from cnn tweet something really dumb like like tucker carlson is the new donald trump or whatever did you put him on the list for that one or no that's a tame take honestly right right but some kid will see that post see everybody laughing and he'll think that's cool it makes people laugh it exudes strength and what that person posted was really dumb yeah i

don't want to be like the person put on the list i want to be the person naming people who should be on the list well it's interesting because i've gotten criticisms like i'm a hall monitor or i'm you know i'm basically waging a harassment campaign against people which is obviously not true more um i've had people have meltdowns about me putting them on the list like this is the i think of a few people from very early on i'm talking like december 2019 when this thing was still like in its infancy and the reason why it came the reason why i started it was literally one of those things where you know kind of your recent twitter habits it's just like it just came out of thin air it was it was george conway dunking on his wife kellyanne in a quote tweet he's the lincoln project and he is yeah the lincoln project guy and it was like one of those things were like oh no you should never do that

in public give me that phone george that is taking your phone away give me that phone man um and he is the first person i put at number one and he doesn't have a blue check he's not verified but like everybody thinks it's because there's everybody the list comes for all but like there's a higher standard to meet if you're not verified because literally anybody could just post whatever you want if you're not verified if you're verified there's you know obviously like a standard that you you have to live well yeah you got the endorsement're verified, if you're verified, there's a, you know, obviously like a standard that you, you, you have to live. Yeah. You got the endorsement of Twitter.

Exactly. Yeah. I was thinking that some of the value of your work too, is like you mentioned the resonation that you feel from a musician, that vibration. Also, you put yourself on camera and your voice. So you're creating resonance,

literal, physical resonance. It's so different than just writing, being behind a typing thing and putting words on the internet like that's how you really affect people in my opinion i think this media this internet video media is so powerful i prefer video more than writing every day of the week that was my strength i mean i was a commentary video writer i mean sorry commentary video editor i do edit videos but like they had writer in there I just

you know because I did write from time to time but like it was if I it turned out and probably like the last like three years of me being at the examiner is that if I wrote anything it would all already be a video so like without you seeing an article is really just like the script that I had in the video so it's it is a better way of reaching people because most people don't like to read. I mean, that's just kind of the way the world, people have very low attention spans. Well, they can turn on a podcast

and then go work on something else. Exactly. You can play video games. And that's why podcasts have become so effective. That's why audio books have become so effective is that you can literally multitask as you're listening to this stuff. And if you have to rewind, you can rewind.

No one cares. You're free to do it. But people play video games listening to podcasts. They go to work. That's very tough to do. I don't know how... You just pause it when they say something really cool and then go rewind it and watch. I mean, I've done that. It's like you're making breakfast or whatever. You turn on a podcast and you just make breakfast.

It's like watching TV. But I almost always Twitch stream now when I play video games. I't know that's they're probably just game offline for a bit that's it's gonna be really interesting the future because i see a lot of people like everybody has a twitch channel and they'll get like seven live viewers or whatever and i'm like who are these like seven people who are watching instead of playing and doing the stream themselves and what happens when everyone does and then everyone is streaming them playing a game and no one's watching a lot of people just have it on in the background. A lot of people.

Yeah. So it's. And you hear people saying like, so I'm going to go steal this car and then light this hooker on fire. Sometimes I'll play the game Heroes of the Storm. It's a MOBA multiplayer online battle arena game. And sometimes it's just so stressful that I just want to watch other people play it. So I don't have to worry about winning or losing. I can just enjoy the process.

I mean, I'm not very competitive at all, which means I suck. But I do enjoy just like the interaction and the fun that you get with like if you play with a community of people. Like just like the enjoyment and the jokes and laughter that you have with them. Yeah, some people just take gaming way too seriously. And that's probably why everybody wants to crack down on gamers. True. What have you been streaming lately? I do play the Black Ops Cold War, Ghost of Tsushima.

I'm trying to get into more of these samurai games. I hear Naio as well as Sekiro are really money. Yeah, that's a Souls-type game. Yeah, I am playing Demon's Souls on PS5. Very difficult game. We actually have a streaming rig for gaming we're setting up. Oh, nice. There's a lot

of expansion on the way. The first thing we have to do is create the new TimCast.com website. Then we've got to create the new brand website for all verticals, gaming, mystery podcasts and all that stuff. But it'll happen when it happens, I guess. We're going're gonna be hiring and just gotta grow organically it's not super easy to just do outright but it's coming but uh how about we go over to super chats yeah to see what everyone else has to say my friends if you are listening and you have not already smashed

that like button you should because it is greatly appreciated and go to timcast.com become a member for exclusive members-only segments. And I'll let everybody... Actually, we got a super chat here. I'll just read it. Will... Again, you know, for some reason, YouTube always blocks the name of the first super chat,

so I can't see it. But they ask, will we see the Chicken City this weekend? We did actually... It's not a big city. It's just like four little chicken houses. We have it built. It is 99% done.

We just have to add one more security layer. It's this big fenced off area. And then we've like dug into the ground so that there's, it's, it's, it's pretty secure. But the issue is we wanted to go get chickens and it's still a little too cold. So we were supposed to be able to bring the chickens out to the chicken city this week. I think we're going to wait because they're still a little small and still a little cold out. Colder than we expected it was going to be. So it might be another week, but maybe we

will finally film something. And I always keep saying that and it just never happens. So fingers crossed it's there. It's a Potemkin village. A Potemkin village. A chicken ghost town. There's no chickens in it yet. Are you sure it's not a chicken microverse? Yeah. Microverse. Powering's no chickens in it yet. Are you sure it's not a chicken microverse? Yeah.

Microverse. Powering all the electricity in the studio. The chickens are very young. You just mentioned that. The chickens are like kind of babies still, right? They're little. They're terrible. Adolescent.

They need... They're good to go now to be on their own outside. Like they're big enough. But, you know, the guy we bought them from was like you might lose some but you know you'll probably be fine and i was like we'll just keep him inside for another week just to be safe right yeah they should be fine though in the temperature yeah right now but uh i think we want to be safe but uh maybe i'll just we'll film some of them doing chicken stuff and show you what we got going on all right let's see we got mr pool doesn't call on me says tim how does it feel

to go from super white and not cared about to suddenly top of the oppressed charts and everyone loves you it's uh it's what i've always dreamed of you know so so as you know like asian people were called white for the longest time yeah and so i'm double white basically i'm double white too yeah you see there you go and then but but now asians are an oppressed group again hell yeah how did How did that happen? Let's go. People got attacked and now they're... Yeah, the Atlanta shooting. Did you know? Yeah, yeah.

I've heard about it, but that's all it was? Well, I mean, there was also... There was a couple of other hate crimes. A lot of hate crimes. Out in like Oakland and San Francisco. There was a big march against white nationalism to help support an Asian man who was attacked by a black guy in New York. And then a few other –

There was a grandma, an Asian grandma who was attacked. Oh, and she beat the guy with a stick. Yeah, she beat the crap out of him. That's weird. I don't know what the full story is on that one, though. Yeah. I really hope somebody got self-videoed that. This big protest in New York, I bring it up because that was one of the big you know things we saw of

like thousands of people marching against white nationalism which was like a weird thing to march against but uh it did generate attention for the hate crimes against asians so now we had that uh that incident that occurred in atlanta where this guy was like a sex addict and so he was going to he was accusing these shops of being like you know rub off shacks or whatever and then he killed a bunch of people. Yeah, he killed eight people. Yeah. So at least six of them were Asian.

Yeah. Okay. So he wasn't, from what I heard, he wasn't targeting any ethnicity. Depends on what you read. I see. That's the thing is that we don't,

again, the investigation as it plays out, we will see, because I don't know anything. I don't know much about this guy. And I don't know if he had animus towards Asians. It's possible. Wait for the facts to come in and that i mean the unfortunate thing is you know as we were talking about how there's like two different americans uh two different americas with competing information this is one of those things

where there's competing information about it yeah so yeah well look what we know about what the guy claims is that he was a sex addict. And then you get the media, mostly the left media, trying to claim it doesn't matter what he says. And then you have that tweet from this woman who said she was like, just a rule or something. You don't get to decide if you're racist. It's your actions that everyone else gets to decide if you're racist or not. So I was like, then I've decided based on your actions, you're racist. That makes you racist.

And if you deny it that's proof it also reminds me you remember in like 2015 there was a parking dispute in north carolina and an apartment complex and one neighbor a white man shot and killed three muslim american i don't remember that no young people they're like all in their late teens early 20s yeah and everyone said yeah, this is Islamophobic. I think I was on the bandwagon of saying, yeah, that's straight up an anti-Muslim attack. And I don't even know if we still know the answer whether he actually had animus towards Muslims. I think crime is crime. Yeah. It was a brutal murder.

And it was horrific. And this guy is now, I think he's serving life in prison. But it was one of those things where, like, is it a hate crime? The evidence of what we saw at the time did not really add up, but the fact that he murdered three Muslim – obviously, two were women in hijab in the head covering. That was another one of those types of debates where they say correlation is not causation right i think i think look a crime's a crime why should we criminalize motivation because then we're trying to well i mean because of hate because the hate crime the the idea like because hate crime i guess carries a more severe penalty yeah yeah but like

if someone commits murder they commit murder murder. You know what I mean? Well, I get that, but it's, you know, there is such thing as malice and intent. So then we should have, okay, so if you commit a murder and there's like no known motivation, it's just murder.

But if you commit murder to steal money, then it's larcenal murder or financial murder. And then if you commit murder because of the clothes they were wearing, then it's fashion murder. And then we'll have different levels of punishment based on what you were feeling before you murdered the person uh i mean there is politically inspired i mean if they are talking about the fashion stuff i mean who kills i mean they're i mean he was wearing a vest vester out of style well i mean

think about all the people that get murdered for their shoes or their chain. Absolutely. So here's the issue. You know, in D.C., if you see a guy in a MAGA hat and you beat him, it's a hate crime? I don't know.

But if he doesn't have a hat on, it is. In D.C., if you punch a guy and said it's because he was wearing a MAGA hat, you committed a hate crime. Oh, if you say it's because of it?

Not just if he has it on. Look, this is the problem with hate crimes. Like, if there's a dude walking down the street wearing a maga hat and someone punches him that person can be charged with a hate crime because political class is a protected politics is a protected class of dc for obvious reasons the issue i take with it is that we're trying to figure out people's in people's like internal morals and motivations instead of looking at them and saying he punched a guy

well intent does mean a lot especially in our criminal justice system because if i mean that how do you how do you decipher between self-defense and murder okay so if some guy robs if a guy robs a bank and there's two guys they both rob a bank one guy did it because he wants to buy you know an infinity pool you can't really afford that with what you get out of a bank but he wants to rob a bank because he wants you know brand new shoes the other guy did it because he wants to buy, you know, an infinity pool. You can't really afford that with what you get out of a bank, but he wants to rob a bank because he wants, you know, brand new shoes. The other guy does it because he's starving to death. Okay, fine. The guy who's starving, he gets a free pass because that was

starving robbery versus greed robbery. You see the point? I understand what you're saying. All we know is someone went in and said I'm robbing this bank. When we get into the hate crime arena, we're trying to read people's minds to determine what was the cause of the crime in the first place instead of just universally saying, dude, if you punch someone, you go to jail. I think they've actually decriminalized thievery of food in another country. Do you remember hearing about that?

Oh, yeah. San Francisco. Might as well call California another country. It might have been another country also, but that's in San Francisco. Someone's poor and starving. Shoplifting. Yeah. yeah and oh no there's one where they're poor and starving and they steal and like i think in virginia and like michigan the cops can't pull you over for like expired plates or blowing a stop sign or failing to turn signal or something like that smelling like weed yeah yeah yeah so it's like you don't signal and you blow a stop

sign and the cop can't pull you over. All right. There you go. So anyway, look, I understand the idea of hate crimes. I'm just like if you hit someone with a pipe, that's aggravated assault. You think they're like trying to measure intent leads to thought crime and like the thought police? Partly. You're not going to read someone's mind. Oh, yeah. There's no way to fully know what somebody's intent is or what's in their heart.

Here's the problem. I don't care, you know, why this guy in Atlanta did what he did. I care that he did it. I care that innocent people lost their lives. And they're now trying to mind read. You got one outlet being like, it's clearly racist. And the other outlet saying, no, no, no, he was addicted to sex. No, no, no, he was racist, even though he doesn't say it.

We know. And it's like, can you give me the name of the people he killed? Can we get a ceremony for the victims? It was days before we realized who any of these people were because the media was too busy arguing about whether or not the guy was racist or not. Well, there is the aspect of aspect of like prevention in the future so if you want to avoid something like this happening again you need to understand their motivations in order to make sure whatever the warning signs were for this particular shooter uh and suspected murderer uh is that this doesn't happen to another person i feel like you guys are both making extremely good points right

now it's kind of weird. It's kind of blowing my mind. I don't know how you, well, that's a first for me. How do you, how do you, how do you stop somebody from committing,

you know, from, from hating? How do you stop someone from hating? It's a natural human experience. People hate things. Well, like if he killed because he was,

because he was starving or if he killed because he hated the person's race, then you know, like what problem do I need to address? Great. Good point. How do we stop the person's race, then you know, like, what problem do I need to address? Great. Good point. How do we stop the hate? Either, well, as a family, I mean, this is a deep conversation. Yeah.

How do you stop someone from hating someone else? Reeducation camps, maybe. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Jesus. Oh, wait, wait. Ban speech. Oh, yeah. If they can't hear the hateful ideas, they can't become hateful, right?

It works so well. I see you've been to Canada. Here, here. Ban speech. Oh, yeah. If they can't hear the hateful ideas, they can't become hateful, right? It works so well. I see you've been to Canada. Here, here. Wait, wait. If they express the hate, arrest them. That way they can't act out on it. This is something that I actually learned very early on growing up. And the one thing that helped break down stereotypes was traveling.

Because I lived abroad. I lived in Lahore, Pakistan for six years. And through there, I was able to travel to different parts of Asia, Africa, Europe. And that was definitely an eye-opening experience. And while not everyone is in a position where they could do that, I mean, that would be, for me, that is how just literally interacting with different parts of your community, honestly. Because you don't know how other people operate. You will find that more people are just like you if they are part of another community. And you find that you have more in common with them.

Once you build that little consensus, you can see them as human beings. Right on. Well, let's read some more super chats. Zabrusi Willis says, man, it's weird seeing your old videos and comparing them to human beings. Right on. Well, let's read some more super chats. Zabrusi Willis says, man, it's weird seeing your old videos and comparing them to where you guys are now. American dream, baby. Yeah. It's just progression and goals.

You see, this is the advantage of skateboarding. Growing up where you're constantly learning a new trick. Every day I would go out, I would be like, what's the new thing I'm going to do today? And before you realize it, i'll i'll rewind the path the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step so you know how i started this all this stuff on youtube i had a gopro 4 and i would put it on top of my monitor and press record and then i would talk for 10 minutes then i would stop it and i would upload it and that was it me too and then eventually i was like i can make this a little bit longer and add some some um some other stuff to it i can add like articles and quotes and i started doing that and then i started a new channel

where i started doing more videos then i got a better camera got a sony thousand frames it was a super super nice all of a sudden the audio was a little bit better and then eventually i was like i should get an actual microphone i should get an actual camera and then from that i learned how to build everything i learned what you know how to set up a podcast studio and then within like a year and a half i was having a podcast recording setup yeah and then once we started uh i think it wasn't until we started irl last year that I actually switched to these microphones. I love these mics. I used to use high-quality cinema-grade shotgun mics. So they would be mounted on top of the camera in front of me. Oh, those are the worst.

No, these are beautiful. Oh, I thought you said they're like literally hanging out in front of the camera and like they're projecting. Is that what it is? Shotgun microphone? Yeah, it creates a cone. Yeah, a cone. Yeah, that's what I would use. But these were like movie-grade, the kind that they would use for capturing audio like in an outdoor scene in a movie, like really expensive.

And these are substantially cheaper and in a lot of ways better. These mics we use now, they don't pick up audio from everyone else. It's really just you. And that's why I needed a switch because when it was just me recording, I this really expensive cinema grade microphone and it was great these are a lot cheaper these are the sm7b by the way everybody is incredible all right let's read a little bit more adrian sutton says come on tim you said i am excited for a biden presidency i will be laughing and smiling the entire time what happened man um i don't want to laugh at Biden for falling downstairs. And it is perhaps I was a little too optimistic on the course we are going to be moving forward

with. I will say when Biden won, I was laughing. That was hilarious. And that's what I was like, if Biden wins, I'll laugh. As for the Biden presidency, there actually is a lot you can laugh about but it is getting really dark with the escalation of between china and so perhaps you uh it is it is just a cold splash of water in the face i thought oh you know it's gonna be fine whatever and now we're kind of starting to see like it's actually a little darker than we realized, or at least that I realized. By the way. I had too much faith in the man, I guess. How ironic is it that the Biden administration, this is through the Daily Beast report. I'm sure some of you have seen it when they were basically sandbagging and sidelining their members of their administration for smoking weed.

Oh, yeah. Yes. I want yeah. Yes. I wanted to hear that. Apparently. President Kamala. She's in charge. We knew it. We knew it.

Apparently, they said, how many of you smoked pot? Don't worry. We won't punish you if you tell us. And then we're like, I did. You're fired. That's funny. That's hilarious. Come on.

I'm going to laugh at that. Yeah. And the fact that Kamala is like, yeah, I smoked weed. I listened to Snoop Dogg and Tupac. Yes. And boom, you're fired. Get out of here. So we got a great one here from Evil Zombie Hamster.

He says, for that rant on Monday, waited until payday for the super chat. Everyone should listen to that rant. If you guys are familiar with whatever that rant is, then make a clip of it and feel free to upload it to social media, whatever. Basically, I was talking to somebody. He was making a point about how me and Carl Benjamin changed. then make a clip of it and feel free to upload it to social media whatever basically uh i was talking to somebody he was making a point about how me and carl benjamin changed and then i went on like a three-minute rant about how people like were cowardly and gave up on the political fight and have you know given into censorship because they're scared and blah blah blah

all right who see joe gang says first time super chatted also became a member last month you guys are the truth keep up the good work we will try what is up man oh yeah we're gonna keep doing it rock on serp youtube says everyone here should check out the latest on sky coin interview with adam stokes and the dev the coin and skywire project is wildly ambitious and aims to build a kind of decentralized parallel internet of sorts tons of crazy political info there too weird sounds cool job b says that video of biden stumbling is suspicious there are six servicemen standing there and no one moves no one is talking about it yeah when biden tripped i guess some people expect the servicemen to run up and try and help

him but it was literally only like two or three seconds yeah he looked like he recovered you know when i'm like running upstairs sometimes i like you know hop up and down you know i trip all the time every single time i do that and it looked like biden was doing that too yeah and for in some ways you know he was trying to like hop up. Yeah. He's trying to pull a Siraj. And, you know, that's right. Jacked his left shin. And CNN ran the segment during the Trump presidency saying, is Trump scared of stairs? They said, does he have bathymophobia where he's unreasonably scared of stairs?

And I'm like, maybe he just knows that if he slips, they'll make fun of him. So he's very cautious to like be on his toes. And then there's this one clip where they did mock him because he walks up a runway and then he wobbles to the right and they're like haha trump almost fell but then we actually look at the photo trump was nowhere near falling and it looks like he was just screwing around like he went whoa well what was the graduation ceremony last year the what was it the army army military academy he was walking down the ramp and everyone was like what's wrong with President Trump?

The man's got a physical disease. He's not fit for office. He was wearing dress shoes and going slow so he didn't slip. Over the course of the Trump presidency, you have stories from Brian Stelter, others who, you know, there was a letter

from like 700 different psychologists trying to diagnose diagnose uh president trump with a mental illness from afar and i mean like the the stuff never stops i am interested to see how this fallout compares because i'm already seeing stories from say like the new york times saying oh you know president president biden's 100 fine have you seen the movie hoaxed from mike cernovich? I have not. There's this really great point in it where they show a clip from, I think it's a 60 Minutes interview with Scott Pelley. And Pelley is criticizing. I did see the Scott Pelley interview on 60 Minutes.

He criticizes Cernovich. He's like, you claim that Hillary Clinton is sick. And he goes, he's like, no, I cited a medical doctor. And he goes, well, how can that doctor, you know, know that he's sick? And he makes, he's like, well, how do you know she's not sick? And he goes, because the Clinton campaign told us. And he goes, why do you trust the Clinton campaign? And the dude literally fumbles and drops his glasses.

Because Cernovich made a really good point. When they were criticizing Trump, saying Trump's mentally ill or whatever, because the doctor said so, it was a fact. When conservatives did the exact same thing to hillary they were like oh you're lying and making it up we get it it's a double standard all right soberman wasn't off man we got the gc geek army saying tim awesome to see my habibi in the compound what does habibi mean habibi means like it's arabic for like my friend, my dear, my love. It's a term of endearment. So you can use it for guy, girl.

Oh, thank you. Habibi. Habibi. My friends, I had a friend who used to say Wodi all the time. It's like a southern term for a male friend. Okay. Yeah. I guess it's Wodi and Shadi.

Shadi, okay. Yeah, Shadi's a female. Yeah, female. Wow. Vashtz, 1985, says says we are not in a democracy never have been the times article about this cabal should have made that very clear they just made sure the rules were on their side so the results went their way instead of the way people wanted i think the the best way to describe what happened is the it's fortification of the election the

rules are there you can see what the rules are it's like it's the matrix man right the agents in the matrix can move all fast and crazy right but they follow rules so when neo finally figures it out he learns how to move all fast and crazy like they do boom that's it so the when they fortify an election they're basically like the agents they make the rules the way they are and a lot of people just don't know how to use them. By the way, one of the very first list memes was when I was I was Neo in that last scene of the first Matrix where he's he stops the bullets. Yeah, it's literally me with a pen and a blue check. I love it. All right. Lee four four six six says saw your video on the Ford plant today.

I work there and I voted for Trump and I'm not the only one. Despite popular belief, there's a lot of right leaning union members, especially with Trump that I know. The curly Afro says China has to keep Tibet for their water supply. Xinjiang for oil and South China Sea for blue water Navy to solidify their rule. They have two of the three yeah by the way you guys been up on march madness negative no but i did see that woman who was screaming about the weightlifting room you see that one i did see that that was that that was

that was a messed up thing that the ncaa did they gave the women this tiny little rack with like tiny little weights and they said that the ncaa's uh excuse they said there wasn't enough space she takes a video there's there's an entire like conference room not conference room i'm sorry like they're like in a convention center there's plenty of space it's just i think matt walsh called it out and he said one is entertaining and one is not oh my god or something like that well so listen there there there is an issue uh i knew i i know a bunch of women who can well this is a while ago now i haven't you know hung out the x games in a decade or so but i i've actually been to the x games a couple times as like an all-access team manager

friend of these athletes i knew a couple of the female pros people don't go to those events so what had happened was early on, they were paying the women like 10% of what the men were getting paid. And they're, they straight up told the female athletes, it's because we don't sell tickets. You know, you're like, you're, you're getting a lot of money, but people don't show up to watch you skate. So what do we do? They ended up winning the right to equal pay because they were like,'s your problem and that's true because women's tennis does well they were they're like if you can't market this properly then why is it on us we are the ones performing we are the ones you know coming here to put on the show for you and then you can't sell tickets sounds like you got to fire your marketing guy

yeah that was actually the best argument i've ever heard for it yeah so when people talk about the wnba and they're like yeah well nobody wants to show up because it's boring i'm like nah it's marketing it's marketing yeah if you've got if i don't care you know women's the u.s women's uh you miss the u.s women's national team better than the men's team that may be many people say it's better than the more people watch the the the matches of the the soccer the national soccer team um because they've won four world cups right they're just so dominant and it's a matter of marketing it is so like i think about going to a music venue look i've gone to see shows from people i've seen sold out shows from people who

are not the greatest singers in the world because they're good it's good marketing they know how to how to get you entertained how to entertain you and make you have a good time and so i'm not going to blame you know the person who's And so I'm not going to blame, you know, the person who's doing their job. I'm going to blame the person who's not doing their job. Granted, I understand what people are saying.

I'm just going to, I'm just going to blame Ohio state for completely messing up my bracket. I chose you to win in both of my brackets. And this is how you treat me. They were supposed to terrible. I had the Ohio, Michigan, Ohio state, Michigan in the final. All right. Completely blew it. Someone's calling me out. Nadia supposed to. Terrible. I had Ohio, Michigan. Ohio State, Michigan in the final.

All right. Completely blew it. Sorry. Someone's calling me out. Nadia shall worry no more says, Tim, your POV on US future against China has been pretty negative.

It's very contagious and has gotten me down and nervous. You have so much influence. So say it with me. I would rather die on my feet than buy Chinese. Oh.

Keep your chin up, guys. Here's the problem. You don't know what's coming from there. And not only that, you might buy something that says made in America and not realize that

components of it are made in China. Right. Assembled in America, you'll see a lot of now. Yeah. Assembled here. Components from China.

Well, I do think we have to do better to get more stuff made in America, that's for sure. Yeah. So I'd love to make a graphene company here.

I've talked about it before. Yeah. We'll keep that in our minds. Graphene solid state batteries. Definitely. Sodium. Okay. Hennessy Drew says, Tim, you only ever mentioned the patriot that died in Portland.

You are forgetting the other guy in Denver. Oh, that guy in Denver. He was killed by that security guard who was like a progressive activist. But he was there working as like faux security and he wasn't legally allowed to be that was a denver guy right yeah track media only says they don't want peaceful divorce if they ever changed then it would be to consolidate and then later come for the other half dems want it all and communism is all about give your stuff to others i don't think the establishment democrats are communists i think they're short-term gain individuals they're like they're going to extract and exploit whatever they can but there are communists on the far left who are willing to it who like

are sitting in wait letting the democrats burn everything burn everything to the ground so that they can come and pick up the scraps and then get their communism you say so short term is a great way of looking at it's like with this hate crimes against the asian people like it's like a knee-jerk reaction something happens and then they make these sweeping i don't know who decided they're on the the minority list or whatever the heck this list is but it's like a little something happens and then they immediately change it's like you got to think of the big the big picture. It should have never been.

I don't know. EW says Ian, the government didn't create the oil industry. The entrepreneur did stop looking at government to answers. They have none. Also, oil isn't going any going away for a while. You need it for jets, trains, semis, and also petrochemicals will always exist. That's definitely right. Yeah, but the government broke up standard oil.

I mean, if we had let Rockefeller create an oil empire, that would have been way worse than where we're at right now. Well, c'est la vie. Brandon McGuire says, if I were China, I would just wait until the left has taken our guns away. The inexperienced military would be no match for ours. Add in all of us proud American gun owners and millions of veterans. See ya. Later, mommy. Spike Dude says, have any of you guys played the Metal Gear series? I think Hideo

Kojima was secretly a prophet. Yeah, there was something about Metal Gear Solid people were talking about, weren't they? Something in it that was prophetic. I played the first Metal Gear. For Nintendo? Oh, yeah. For Nintendo? Yep. Oh, no, no. I played the first Metal Gear. For Nintendo? Oh, yeah. For Nintendo? Oh, no, no.

I played on PlayStation. The original Metal Gear? Not the original Metal Gear. I played on PS1 and PS2. Metal Gear Solid? Metal Gear Solid, yeah. God, those were lit games. OMG Puppies says,

The key to fusion is high-temperature superconducting magnets. Check out an excellent video, MIT's Pathway to Fusion Energy by Zach Hartwig. Great overview of the science and engineering of nuclear fusion. Very cool. Panda Bang says, That fiat currency is a good thing. The gold standard was bad.

The situation at the border is good, and we should be grateful for immigrants. January 6th was worse than 2020. At Ian, free the graphene. Free the graphene. Free the graphene. You're right. Let's see.

Taysara says, I lived next to Tyndall AFB and saw the F-35 in flight. Six of them hovered about 250 feet over the highway. They made no sound. Even underneath, people in Panama City will testify. They have active camo. We've all seen it. Wow. What?

What is that? Like camo jets or something or what? I'll look that up. F-35. Secret weapons. Paul Luckett says, sorry, Tim. It's getting difficult to watch your content it's all doom and gloom the battle is over give up and lose hope this message gets people's down gets people down depression is already too high we need to try to spread more hope well i do try to be somewhat

optimistic in that these these woke people are really destroying themselves now and the more fun funny people seem to be doing better, better and better. So maybe it's just, you know, the night is always darkest before the dawn and things are starting to turn around. Maybe, maybe we'll,

we'll pull out of this by 2024 and things will improve. Dylan Percher says, Ian is correct. China may be ahead for now, but so was Germany and Japan in the beginning. Decoupling is correct as well.

Look into Peter Zahan's work. He lays it out. As for Apple phones, manufacture can be moved back and 3D printing will be cheap. There you go. Turk Longwell says, that guy in his lists, F him. Sir, who made you the official list maker?

Love the show all always on point. Smash the like button and spin it. Smash that like button and spin it. Smash that like button. Your hatred gives me life. Michael Wynn says, all I'm hearing from Greenwald is it's time to end New York Times v. Sullivan in order to smack the news media in the mouth hard enough to stagger them because they lie. Yeah, I don't know.

I might agree with that. It's tough. What is it? Times v. Sullivan's at the standard where news media is allowed to lie about someone if they didn't know it was a lie. You can't measure if they knew or not. John Smith, and he's a carpenter. And the New York Times says that he, John Smith, you know, punched a puppy in the face. He can sue them for defamation, and it will immediately go through because he's not a public figure.

They need to prove, like, it doesn't matter if they knew it or not. They lied about him. If they write a story saying Siraj punched a puppy, they can say, well, we genuinely thought it was true, so, and you can't sue him. Even if you're like, show me the proof. Doesn't matter. Really? Yeah. That's a a problem they're called anti-slap laws strategic lawsuit against public participation so long as you have a reasonable belief that something is true you can essentially defame people so they use very clever ways to do it they'll say like while siraj is uh did not

punch the puppy he's known to push puppy punching. And then you're like, what does that mean to push puppy punching? What does that mean, push? And then they'll be like, oh, when he was seven, he pushed a photograph of a dog getting punched. Or they'll just say a source told us. It's actually really funny. You bring that up because of my dog, Ernie, and the Habibis. You punched him? No, I never punched him.

I love him. It's just funny because he has his own Twitter account. And yes, I created it with the intention of him running for president in 2020. And his general platform was to deport me. And all of the problems in the united states would be resolved and so basically everyone's been rooting for him to deport me and uh basically any time that like i don't give him a treat it's like violence against so here's excuse me it sounds like you pushed your dog's platform well so so here's what the media do. If you have an account for your dog,

you say you want to run for president. He did run for president. He won. So we know you're joking, but the media can write something like, you know, the story was amplified by Siraj Hajmi, who posts unhinged rants about dogs being president.

Clearly a sign of mental distress. They can do it i mean they could they could even literally say that so the issue is there's often settlements if you watch like project veritas you'll see he always has the retracto usually that's because these people bend the knee immediately because they know if you get past a motion to dismiss you go to discovery and depositions and that's when these organizations panic so so this is this is news too veritas just got past a motion to dismiss at the new york times i think it was all right which means these writers now have to sit in a room under under oath i believe under penalty of perjury and tell the

truth so it's really amazing what happens because they immediately, it's remarkable. Watch these videos that Veritas has put out and you will laugh. Like they'll write something like, you know, James O'Keefe once did a backflip off a building or whatever, or punched a dog. And they'll be sitting there in the room under deposition and go, no, he never punched the dog. Why do you write that he did? I was wrong.

And you're just like wow they know they're lying and they get caught for it and they're forced to settle wow they're forced to apologize or whatever because i know they're gonna lose jonathan galtarini says have you noticed how the media is slowly turning on biden it feels like they are dipping their toes in the water on bashing biden why i think they care more about money than anything else. Capitalism may cure the virus they created. What if this happens? What if Jonathan's correct? Joe Biden is going to start getting slammed in the media.

It's already starting. We had MSNBC criticizing him because he ordered Border Patrol not to allow press access to these facilities, migrant facilities. What happens if the media realizes there's money to be made? Oh, they're coming full force. If they criticize biden yep and then all of a sudden we get four years of biden bad oh no and you get you get a crumbling economy crumbling infrastructure a failing president a a raucous china and a media capitalizing joe biden off joe biden claiming he sucks and then trump comes back oh yeah if that were to happen all of it at the same time with desantis as vp then trump would probably i think i think trump is running regardless

and if trump doesn't run it is desantis yes i think whoever runs between those two is going to win 100 definitely you so you think no matter what 2024 is republican yeah it's a lot of things that can happen from now until then i know but this is what really bothers me but i also thought biden was gonna win i i as soon as trump won um knowing biden didn't run in 2016 um i thought whatever happened in in in 2016 i i i knew that was going to win like a week before the actual election. But afterwards, if Biden had been in that, I thought that there might have been a chance that he actually would have won. So in 2017, I was like, if Biden runs in 2020, he's going to win. The important thing to understand about shows like this and what I hate about the internet is there's context and then there's like temporal context or contemporary context.

And the way I described it to you earlier is if I said something like, oh, Ian came to me and said, I am thirsty, but I don't like Gatorade. People could then take that statement where I said, I am thirsty, but I don't like Gatorade and take it out of context to attribute that quote to me. That's so crazy. That's out of context. But there's something called there's something else. There's contemporary context where I could be reading a news article from The New York Times that said Gatorade put, you know, we won't use an actual brand. The New York Times might write an article saying popular soft drink accidentally drops rat in beverage. And then I go, oh, wow, I'm never drinking beverage again. That's disgusting. I

think this is disgusting. This drink is gross. And then people will take that quote and say, Tim hates this brand, omitting the contemporary context, the time when a story came out. So there's a good example of this. I said something about, I don't trust the New York Times. And I was referring to a singular story. I was talking about a couple of different stories and I was like, oh yeah, well the New York Post said this, the New York Times said this. I don't trust the New York Times. I was referring to one story

that gets taken by a bunch of leftists to claim that Tim Pool thinks the New York Times is fake news. Can I jump in on that? Because this is really interesting that's happened online. You know, Vox Journalist Sam Ruppar? He posts a bunch of videos and stuff. He is now being accused of taking Captain Jay Baker, I believe that's his name, from Atlanta, and taking out the, what was it, the conceptual context by basically...

Contemporary? Contemporary. I'm sorry. Yeah. Contemporary context to make it look like the captain was saying that the suspect, the Atlanta shooting suspect was having a really bad day what he was doing was that he was actually saying that this is what the suspect's explanation was of his own actions saying that he well that's just general context

yeah no okay all right so he said he had a really bad day and he and the way he was quoting the guy he was quoting what what the suspect's explanation was these people are man. And Rupar framed it as if that was what the captain said. Fooled me. He got fired. The captain got forced out of his job. I thought the captain said that. Me too. So, I mean, man, you gotta be really careful when you watch these videos because it is so quick.

So quickly this stuff gets spread. We got an important one here. Mr. Brownstone says, Stimmy hit and Timcast sub-locked in. Member-only content is worth every penny. Keep up the great work and guests. Cheers, good sir and crew. Dude, we got

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all right we'll do a couple more here. If you haven't already, smash the like button before you take off, but we'll read some more. J.A. says Habibi Bro here, who is also a member of Timcast.com and a Twitch sub of Siraj. Ohio State and Michigan State were both overrated. Go blue. There you go. What's up, Habibi? Mike Greff says, things we can all agree on. Never trust the media politicians or the chinese

government can we all rally behind this not apparently we can't i mean maybe just not face value never who looks at nancy pelosi and goes i trust that face a bunch of people why a lot of people trust nancy pelosi man why Why? There's like, you know, when people ask me, like, can you name a good politician? I'm like Rand Paul. Yeah. I don't know. You know, that guy. That's like the it's he gets a really high score for me.

And there's a couple others I might shout out. Josh Hawley. Well, Josh Hawley is on the list, but he's closer to the bottom. No offense, Josh Hawley. Ted Cruz. I think Thomas Massey. Yeah. Rand Paul.

You. And then. You know,osh holly's all right matt gates and ted cruz are all right um i give i give praise to rocana for standing up to pelosi in a few instances but i disagree with him a lot of political stuff tulsi gabbard was fantastic she left politics right like that says everything can you is there any politicians you want to give a shout out to you think that are genuine and trustworthy oh man that's really good uh question right look i have a reserved um distaste for politicians i realize that they're all human and they all have you know they're all set to do a job and they all have different pressures that influence them so i am never going to praise a politician just outright for you know being good or being bad i'm sorry or criticize them

when they're bad um i will just call them out when i see them mess up what do you think about rand paul he's a wild card you think so yeah because he, he, during the Trump era, he wasn't really himself. You think? Yeah. I don't, I, I. He got on the Trumpy lean. Yeah. It was very un-Rand Paul-like. And, and, and I'll tell you this.

When I, when I say I praise Rand Paul, it's because on a scale of one to a hundred, he's, he's at 51. He's like over the halfway mark by like the smallest person. Which is like the best rating you'd ever give a politician. Ever. Yeah. Like he's a little bit better than like, okay. Whereas like all the other politicians are like, you're kind of bad.

Yeah. You're all kind of bad and some are worse. Some are horrible. Yeah. So I like Josh Hawley, but he's, yeah, you know, I begrudgingly say I like Josh Hawley because there's some things he's done that i like yeah that's a that's the problem is like there's personality and then there's policy how do you separate that right i like the problem is oh yeah no i was just gonna say like some

policies are good but the personality is horrible yeah some personalities are good but the policies are horrible like you just can't it's very hard to sit that down. Liking their work is different than liking their personality. We got a very important super chat from Mujahid Khabi. Oh, that's Jade. This is a question for Siraj Habibi. He is my co-host. That's my co-host on CP Bros. He super chatted $69.

Of course. Nice. Habibi, why is your love for Jen Rubin undying? Essentially, you lib. 100%. Love you, Jay. Drunk Surfer says, shout out to Louie Gohmert. Louie's alright too. Yeah, he's cool.

It's easy to point out certain Republicans that I think are good, but I disagree with them on a lot of policy. It's hard to find Democrats that I think are good, and I disagree with them on a lot of policy. It's hard to find Democrats that I think are good and I disagree with most of them on policy. All right. Galandro Glade says you should get fleckas on your show.

We want to. We will at some point. Yeah, he's busy. Oh, it's interesting. Paul Crane says from a bottom of my heart, Tim, you alone completely destroyed my conservatism I was born into. I feel like a free man. Thank you, sir. Oh. I have no idea. Is that good? I don't know.

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