Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #255 - Facebook BANS Trump's Literal VOICE From Videos, Deletes Interview | w/Jack Murphy

Episode Date: April 1, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host friend and fellow YouTuber Jack Murphy to discuss Facebook completely censoring the sound of Trump's voice, a leftist magazine that thinks trials are an outdated frivolity, a Twitter reply guy who thinks white people are to blame for black racism against Asians, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez' most recent inanity.  Support the show (http://Timcast.com/donate) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Laura Trump did an interview with Donald Trump. Facebook and Instagram deleted that interview quite literally because it included the voice of Donald Trump. This is one of the most egregious moves in censorship we have seen yet. I'm sorry, man. It makes me pessimistic to see this stuff every single day. It just seems to be getting worse. Facebook, I get they they're like,

we're going to ban Trump's account and we all roll our eyes. They do it one step at a time. Going so far now as to say you can't even interview the man. Trump was literally the president of the United States. You can't even interview him. To me, this is insane. And I got to admit, it's demoralizing. But you know what? These things make me angry. And the angrier I get, the more I'm resolved to keep doing these things. And, well, kind of give a big middle finger to the establishment that wants a censor. They're doing similar things to Crowder. They're upping the ante, trying to ban Steven Crowder, taking down his videos for arbitrary,

inane reasons, claiming he violated rules he did not violate. And I can attest to that because I've spoken to Google and I know they're lying about what's going on. But here it comes. It's getting worse. We got a bunch of other stories, too. The Chauvin trial is kicking up. And this woman was caught by the judge trying to take taking literally taking photographs.

And he said, you got to delete these. And there are fears this woman as a leftist could expose the jurors who have already expressed their fear about what would happen if people find out who they are. It just seems to be getting worse every day, my friends, which means we need to be vigilant. We need to keep talking about these things, keep pushing back. And, you know, some people have been very pessimistic. I know that James Lindsay said maybe it's too late. Some some have said the night is always darkest before the dawn so we'll see how things play out we're going to talk about all these stories joining us today is jack murphy hey everybody good to be here appreciate it hey give me a follow a subscription on youtube jack murphy live i'd appreciate it new videos every day i got curtis yarvin and michael anton coming on a friday that is going to be spicy spicy what's up everybody ian crossing over here and regarding the anger talk i like Michael Anton coming on a Friday that is going to be spicy, spicy. What's up everybody. Ian crossing over here. And regarding the anger talk,

I like your metaphor. I think anger is like a fire and when it's out of control, it's very dangerous, but when it's controlled, it can cause massive motivation. So as we get angry, let's keep under control. Good idea.

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So go to Timcast.com, sign up and let's jump into the first major story. This stuff freaks me out. Facebook and Instagram non-person Trump reports the Daily Mail platforms ban ex-president's interview with daughter-in-law Laura, where she signals he will run for president in 2024. Facebook and Instagram pulled the clip because it featured Trump speaking. That's it. So what does that mean? If I if I pull up an old video of The Apprentice, are they going to pull it down now?

You can't. No more. My guess is no, because it's so haphazard and irrelevant of why. Should we try? Because it's politically motivated. Should we try? I don't usually poke the beast unless I need to poke the beast. Why don't you get to that billion-dollar media company first?

And then we'll try it. And then just create the Donald Trump archive? Yes. Where we just like... I mean, what happens if 60 Minutes decided to interview the former president, the 45th president of the United States. And then they put up clips on YouTube or Tucker Carlson or whomever else. Standard mega media.

They interviewed the ex-president talking about benign policy issues, whatever. They put it up on YouTube. Going to be deleted. That's it. The president can never. No, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm Facebook.

Sorry. Let's get that. I got to clear here. It's because Facebook said they didn't want to do political ads anymore. Maybe they thought it was a political ad. No, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm Facebook. Sorry. Let's get that. I got to clear here. It's because Facebook said they didn't want to do political ads anymore. Maybe they thought it was a political ad. No, no, no, no. They said it was because it was. They literally said, look, the voice of Donald Trump.

What if I what if we do? You know, what are those things they do? Are they deep fake a voice? What's that called? Deep faking? Probably. They did that thing with Joe Rogan where it was called like not Joe Rogan dot com or something. And they would type things in and it sounded like Joe Rogan was saying them.

What if we just do that? What if we get a Donald Trump voice changer? And so we do this show with a mod on. So all of our voices are Donald Trump all talking and arguing with each other. I love it. Poke the beast. Poke the beast. Test the algorithm. We persuaded you very easily.

I like to fake voices. That's fun. No, but this is... Wait, can we not do mannerisms? Can we not do slogans? Can we not even do imitations now? China. That's it.

We're nukes. We're banned. No more Facebook. Peace out, everybody. It was Trump's son's wife was on Facebook talking, on video talking, saying that Donald Trump was going to run, and there was a clip of his voice. They didn't say he was going to run. I guess Trump said people who want him to run should have hope.

And that's always because there's a bunch of laws that don't come into play as soon as you say you're running for president. So that's why they always wait till the last minute that we know they're going to run. I think this is a really strong indication. Trump will end up running. He's 78 years old. He's going to run for president and they're going to ban him. Twitter. It was like we're not letting him back on even if even if he does run for president

dude i look at the stuff that's going on today you know all of this stuff all over the world the stuff that's happening in media and it's just been blatant over and over again like that video the verge published this video of a google meeting when trump won the election and there's people crying right and it's like the ceo and he's like we know how everyone's upset about this it's like we're never gonna let that happen again yeah yeah yeah we see it happening right in front of us and then you know nothing happens you know you know you know you know why nothing happens the people that run facebook and these other companies are now in charge of uh antitrust division at the department of justice and vice versa yeah there's just like a steady flow back and forth always matt and these other companies are now in charge of antitrust division at the Department of Justice.

And vice versa. Yeah, there's just like a steady flow back and forth. Matt Stoller has really been on top of this about who, which the personnel from which company is now at DOJ. No one is there to prosecute it. Why? Because we're living in a techno corporate fascist state where the Democratic progressive left and the corporations have fused in all of their intentions and they're acting in concert and they will never check each other because all they want to do is check us. Well, here's here's the problem with the Democratic progressive left,

that the anti-establishment left sides with them more often than not because they're given candy. You know, so the Democrats are like, here's AOC to say another thing is racist. And these these far leftists, insurgent types, revolutionary types, antifa types who should oppose Joe Biden, everything he stands for, support him. They come out and they're like, well, we don't like Joe Biden. We just voted for him because Trump is bad. It's like, so you think the establishment should regain control of the White House and do all that stuff? Sure, I guess. But more often than not, they dangle red meat from people like AOC and Bernie Sanders in

front of the far the far left and the and the socialists. And they just take it. They take it. So there are a lot of anti woke leftists who want a workers revolution and all that stuff. Okay, stop siding with the establishment. Donald Trump was not the base of power in this country, even as president, which was hilarious. He got some things done. He had power as president, but the entire machine was against him. two years the republican party was against him it's like who was it trey gowdy when the russia thing comes up they're like well we better look into this stuff because we want to make sure we're being thorough it's like the guys the effectively the leader of your party but they hated him they wanted all of that stuff to happen

to just you know slow them up you got to judge people by their actions, not by their words. Right. So if these people on the far left are voting for the establishment, supporting the establishment, supporting the techno corporate fascist tyranny that we live under now, they clearly aren't really interested in a workers revolution. It's sad and funny watching them get banned. You know, like when they come after Crowder and they've been coming after Crowder, I think they just took down another one of his videos like in the past couple of hours. So I want to be careful too because like obviously I know Crowder and so every time something like this happens, I'll be like, yo, can you confirm what's going on? So I don't know if he's mentioned it yet, but I've been talking to him. They're taking down more of his videos and they're doing it in creepy ways like, okay like okay this one's not a strike but we're giving you a warning here the reason this is is just outright awful

infuriating because he didn't break any rules they're lying they're taking down videos where he literally cites the cdc which is what he's supposed to do and he is one of the staunchest like most ardent and high-profile advocates defending free speech literally everyone, including these leftists who complain all the time. So when they go after him, it's like he would go to like events where people were protesting and sit down and be like, debate me, have a conversation. Change my mind. Instead of fighting, let's have a real. And they're great. They're great.

They're amazing. That's what kind of made him super famous was that stuff. I mean, he's had a lot of, you know, a lot of shows. He's hit out of the park. But but here's what I'm trying to say. When I see these progressives get nuked, I go. Don't ban them, please. These people have a right to be on the platform. They have a right to their channels. There was one person who got banned from YouTube. And I follow this stuff. I follow the censorship.

I see the progressives saying these progressives just got banned. Where's the free speech, you know, freeze peach people. And I'm like, I'm right here, yo, give them their channels back. Who do I got to email? One of them was just like ragging on me nonstop. And I'm like, I don't care. I want them to rag on me and say all the mean things about me. That's their right to do so. Good. We don't want a monoculture where only, you know the oracle can speak down from the high heavens but you know what the problem is i say it's sad because i don't want to happen but it's kind of funny admittedly it's funny like watching someone melt like it's horrifying but it's like or watching someone fall down and get hurt like people laugh no it's it's funny it's like it's

the guy who is smacking you in the face over and over again, then getting smacked in the face. And you want to be like, dude, we don't want the violence. I get they were hitting me. Don't hit them. Let's stop everything. But we want to laugh about it. It's like if I'm against violence, I don't want them to befall violence. If I support free speech and these people are advocating for my destruction, it's really annoying that when

they get censored, of course I'm going to defend them. What's frustrating about it is, look, the people who believe in individual liberties and free speech, we're the good guys. We are the good guys because we stand up even for our enemies. It's like, I grew up watching Batman and you know Batman would do? The Joker falls of a building andman grabs his hand and doesn't let him fall sherlock holmes the the bad guy lord uh what's his name blackwood or whatever falls and then sherlock he's like all right and he pulls him back up the good guy saves the bad problem is if you watch gi joe and cobra commander would fall duke would grab him and he'd be like help me duke and duke would be pull him up and then cobra thanks and he'd push him off the ledge exactly so like at what point do you stop helping your enemies i I don't know. That's the thing people are going through right now.

That's exactly it. Don't lose your moral compass. These people are going, ha ha ha, you're getting censored, you stupid bigot. And then when the ground falls out from under them, we reach down, grab them and say, hold my hand, brother. And we pull them up.

And then as soon as we do, they push us off the edge and say, ban them now. That's the problem. That's the worst. This reminds me of this whole thing going on right now james lindsey and his sort of style on twitter right it's like it's funny it's hilarious and i totally get it politeness has gotten us nowhere right and that's his approach right he's like look politeness isn't going to get us anywhere we need to start being aggressive and crude and throw manners out the

window because manners are political correctness which which is tyranny, which is mind control, et cetera. And it's a tough spot to be in holding your moral compass true, staying true to your values when doing that is like paving the road to your own demise. It's true, man. But I thought about this. We've got people who believe the ends justify the means. And so they think by being evil people who suppress people's rights, who take away their freedom of speech, that as soon as they take over, then everything can be fine. But there's no end.

You never meet the end. Once they have their glorious revolution, they must fight to protect it from those who would stage another glorious revolution. And the ones that they've inspired to be cruel and use evil are going to be the ones that are coming up to try and stop them. So the means you use are the means that will be used against you. Exactly. And so that's why I just can never agree. But maybe it means we just sit back and watch the world burn. Because what I see happening now is these people who are authoritarian, they're despotic, they're liars, they're hypocrites. People like AOC, she screams Donald Trump is putting kids

in concentration camps. Now that it's happening under Biden, what did she say today? There is no migrant crisis. So this is the other day. She said there is no migrant crisis. It's a crisis of imperialism. Lady, there's a migrant crisis. Even ABC is pointing it out. They're hypocrites. So what's happening is I'm watching these people go town to town, literally burning these towns down. That literally happened last year. And we're told being calm, polite, rational, and staying true to our beliefs is the only way forward.

But they're still burning the cities down both figuratively and literally so what do we do do we decide to burn things down back well that's just going to make everything burn down faster and that's what they want so i can only i can only hope that we have this little fortified space whereas everything else burns down because weak cowardly people give in and let them do it we will have some some sanctuary you really you know you sound like right now you sound like john gulp that's the main character of ayn rand's atlas you know what i mean it's like okay you guys are going to burn the world down well guess what i'm going to build my own world and you can't come and that's a little bit about what we're doing in the liminal order it's what

you're trying to do it's what you are doing you want to build your own walled garden with no masters with no interference from the other institutions and the big tech companies and all that be left alone yeah and living order is extremely successful like that mentality works it really does work because people are feeling the same thing and they want a space that's protected from all this madness and mayhem bro you know what you know what it is is there's very few people like us okay the people who are watching this, you watch it for a reason. I imagine we're all part of this ideology of some kind of classical liberalism, freedom. And I'm sure there's probably a lot of more authoritarian right individuals who watch for the sake of opposing

the authoritarian left. But I think most people who watch, because we actually, we've had events, we've done polls, are libertarian left or libertarian right, mostly in moderate. There's just very few of us. People who are willing to stand up and defend the rights of the individual and freedom. And we start seeing how this cult mentality seeps through everything. And it's because regular people don't care, don't want to be involved. They just want to sit down and be told what to think. And I don't I'm not trying to be mean to most people but it really is the guy in

the workplace who's like i don't want to get into a fight with anybody i don't talk about politics i'm just gonna sit here to become a target being on video and speaking your mind like this is is it it is a freaky proposition and it puts you in a bit of a vulnerable state but also it gives you immense power once you start to do it and realize not that you're untouchable but that you're stronger than you realize once you do become more or less untouchable uh it's it's a crazy liberating feeling it's empowering and it's more fuel to actually continue speaking the truth i i worry that if uh you know obviously we don't see crowder get taken out but if crowder does get taken out tim like you're you're like the lead dog then yeah i don't know about me i don't think we're

that big like crowder's got five something million subs who's between you and crowder in this same space jordan peterson jordan peterson's got way more subs i mean he's way bigger way more influential just saying man if crowder goes in terms of content more attention will be the same team that's sweating crowder's content so just like you and steven are very different like he's a kind of a comedian like offensive comedy comedian i don't really rides the line but i hate that idea offensive comedy he does like comedy edgy comedy he's not like a gentle comic he's like i'm kind of hardcore i've watched crowder i've watched family guy guess which one

has more race-based and stereotype-based jokes i'm surprised yeah and that's that's that's on tv every day all day every day influencing kids and everybody and good i think it's a funny show crowder is nowhere near i don't want them to ban south park but if you watch one episode of south park it's a thousand times worse than anything any of us are saying. I'm concerned with the terms of service of YouTube. When we were writing our terms of service at Mines, we were like, what if we just slide a little thing in there that says, and we retain the right to ban anyone at any time? They all say that.

If that says that at YouTube, which it probably does, no one's safe. For any reason at any time. No, period. None of us are safe. And all it is is one little sentence. So in this regard, I do not sound like John Galt. I am not a fan of laissez faire capitalism and big corporations that can do what they want on a private platform. I think I think that we have, you know, the people have to come together and have some kind of agreement about what we don't let people do with power.

So on on right before I came up here, I tweeted out. I had the same thought libertarianism died with the birth of the Internet, which isn't exactly right. But the gist is that the scale of the Internet and the power that allows people and corporations to accrue is is the just example prima facie evidence as why libertarianism is failed. Libertarian philosophy, right? Would just be like, let me mean, you mean big L libertarianism is failed libertarian philosophy right would just be like let amazon you mean big l libertarianism yeah yeah not not not just leave me alone libertarianism but like actual political philosophy libertarianism if you that the theory would lead you to say like just let amazon and google do their thing just let twitter and facebook do their thing they're a private company or they're you know they're they're they're they can do whatever they want just let hey build your own right i it's clearly not happening i'm sorry what there's clearly not happening because now also there's just the prospect of the ai right just like the super dominant ai that's going to cast a long night over everybody and so libertarianism is dead you can't just let the corporations do whatever they want

didn't you see wall-e i did Don't you think it would be just so amazing to be able to just be morbidly obese with very weak skeletons floating around in hover chairs, drinking sodas, and just having everything done for you? What an existence. It's what plants need.

Wrong movie, but you know what I'm talking about. It's what plants do. Think about WALL-E. These people might as well be a shrub in the corner of the room. There's really very little difference between the WALL-E character and the guy in the pod in The Matrix, right? Very little.

Very little. Because you're just there to serve the system. That's it. Man. Yeah. I get pessimistic seeing this stuff. Like with the Chauvin trial stuff, it was really creepy to see this woman try taking photos in the court. And the judge just goes, well, just delete that photo for me.

Okay, moving on. I'm like, bro, throw her out. Bar her from the courtroom. Because deleting the photo doesn't delete the photo. Yeah, it might have automatically uploaded it to some server somewhere. Absolutely. It's already on iCloud, baby. So who was she, just watching the trial?

She was a PR person, apparently. Wow. Well, so there's a lot to talk about in terms of uh let's let's jump into stuff about the uh the chauvin trial specifically because this is the kind of stuff this is the kind of stuff that freaks me out the nation.com one of the premier leftist publications i mean they've been around for a long time they got an article that says the acquittal of Derek Chauvin has already begun. I agree. I think he will be acquitted. I don't know for sure. Don't take my word for it. If I had to put 10 bucks down, I'd say 10 bucks on acquittal.

That's just me. I'm not saying I make a real bet. I wouldn't because I don't know. But the nation agrees. The left agrees. Many on the right think he's not going to be convicted. And they have this really, really great passage. Let me just read this paragraph for you. They say Chauvin's trial started this week, and soon a jury comprised mainly of white people, of this we can be almost certain, will tell us whether they think killing a black man should be a crime. In a reasonable world, this trial would be perfunctory. Hell, in a reasonable world, there wouldn't even be a trial.

Wow. I'm going to make a small wager that he had to look up or she had to look up what perfunctory meant. Just a couple of checks. This is a good wager. That's very pompous. That's not too bad. However, there's more.

Chauvin would have accepted some kind of plea deal. That's what most people do when they are caught on camera killing someone. So they're not saying outright ban trials. However, this sentiment is echoed by Chelsea Handler, who in my opinion probably read that article because Newsweek.com reports Chelsea Handler sparks backlash for suggesting trials be skipped when there's video evidence. Look, to an ignorant person, they're going to go, oh, there's literally video of it. What's the point of a trial if we all watched it happen well to those people on the ignorant level even if show chauvin's body killed

the other guy's body uh what's his name floyd george floyd say his name it doesn't matter if one body kills another you still have to determine the intention that's what the trial would be for if anything to figure out the intention all right that's the guy but they're even trying to figure out the whole situation they want to go deeper they want to figure out the intention of the guy. But they're even trying to figure out the whole situation. They want to go deeper. They want to find out was Floyd on fentanyl and out of his mind and on his way. No, that we know for sure. You're right.

We know because of the tox report and things like that. The issue is breaking down all the facts, having a debate, an argument, a trial over what Chauvin did and whether or not it was reasonable, whether or not, as you mentioned, intent. So when you have these low information individuals, leftists who are like, there wouldn't even be a trial. I should take a plea. And then Chelsea Handler saying, we should skip the trial. We saw it on video.

That's a scary reality, man. How many followers does Chelsea Handler have? Yeah, don't ever make those jokes on Twitter. She's influencing a lot of people. And this is where we're at right now. So when I see this stuff and I see a story that when you look at all the details from a rational point of view, the Minneapolis Police Department, and this is evidence put out by the defense, and there's a photo of this, trained the police to use the particular restraint that Chauvin did. Why? Because if you put your knee on someone's back, you can cause asphyxiation.

So they move the knee to the neck so that their chest can still move up and down and they can still breathe. Apparently, that's why Chauvin did that. He was trained to do it. They also have all these witnesses who said they were yelling at him, you're going to kill him, and these things. You think he could hear every single person screaming at him at the same time? He has no idea what's going on. Now, if you want to have a conversation about manslaughter we've long suggested there's a real argument there that's why a trial must be had to get to the bottom of this you know the craziest thing about all this is i'm almost swearing at these people we put the nazis on trial we literally put nazis on trial nuremberg yes we were like we want them to stand trial why

because even if you can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt and everyone's seen the evidence, you want to present it in a legal court so it can be in the record. Legitimate, verbatim, legacy, history, boom. There's the records. It happened. Do you think Chelsea said that when Trump got impeached, they should just skip the trial and throw him right out? Probably not.

Skip the trial. No trials. You know, this is just a continuation of the degradation of due process that we've seen across the country title nine regulations totally stripped men and people accused of sexual harassment sexual assault of their due process donald trump fixed it joe biden is trying to turn it back they don't want due process they saw a video a girl said it believe all women if cavanaugh had the same treatment that chelsea handler is suggesting cavanaugh would never be a supreme court justice because he'd be in jail because a woman said that he got you know they uh you know group raped him or whatever

did you did you see that new york times article about smith college where it was the black student who was in the closed dorm room. So for those who don't know the story, there's a black student. She was in a dorm that was closed. A janitor was told, if you see anybody in the building, call campus security or police because there's not supposed to be anybody here. Apparently, she had an arrangement where she was allowed to be there, but the janitor didn't know. So he called and said, hey, there's somebody here. The cop came up, walked up to her and said, hey, how going uh what what's going on oh you're cheating oh okay no problem sorry for bothering you how's your day going all right have a nice

day that was it she then makes this video where she was like someone called the cops on me for just eating and you know and being black when in reality it was that somebody was told to call the cops if that was the case and an independent review found there was nothing wrong but hold on this is the important point yeah the new y Times wrote that her, what did they say? They said this student's personal truth was at odds with the facts. They were like a shocking moment for a student whose personal truth was at odds with the facts. That's called being wrong. But the way they're framing it now is that we all have our personal

truth our lived experience standpoint theory you can call that perception and everyone has a different this sounds like the same thing that happened to aoc when she was not in the capitol building but a cop came in to be like hey what are you doing you got to get out of here but like an hour before anyone went into the building anyway amazing it was that was that was apparently because there was a bomb scare and aoc makes this Man, it's so obvious she's lying to anybody who followed the news, but I see so many people who just don't know and they believe it. I was even talking to a Huffington Post journalist who was like, your timeline's wrong, AOC, blah, blah, blah. And so I started researching it and I'm like, yo, a full hour before anyone breached any part of this

building, any part of it, and before they were even fighting with the cops, I think they had just started scuffling. The cop was clearing out a different building because of a potential bomb scare. And everybody went back because nobody ever went in those buildings. The story she told was very much as though she was in the Capitol and people were looking for. She lied. She was like, I'm like, they got in. They're going to find me. And I thought I was going to die or whatever. It's like nobody got in any building why would you be thinking that before literally anyone any of this happened because she's lying because their lived experience i love this meme it's uh you know the winnie the pooh meme where it's like winnie the pooh sitting down then he's got a monocle that he's wearing a full tux it's like getting fancier it's like the first one says my

opinion and it's regular Winnie the Pooh. The next one is, he's got a monocle that says, anecdotal evidence. And then the tuxedo says, my lived experience. It's exactly what it is. Smart. Lived experience in this notion is part of radical feminism, critical

race theory. It's embedded in their entire philosophy, their philosophy of activism and change. If CRT continues its march through its institutions, if it continues its march through the legislative process, through its bureaucracies, due process is gone. Fact is gone. The only thing that will matter is people's personal truths if you're the right person. I don't think my personal truth is going to matter much. Yeah. So before we do this show, sometimes I'll either watch Star Trek The Next Generation if it's on.

But today it was Sliders. You guys ever watch Sliders? I love that show. Oh, my God, dude. From the 80s? No. Were they changed? It was like the late 90s.

Whatever. I mean, look, to me, it's all the same. I watch late 90s shows. That's why I'm watching Outer Limits and mid-90s Star Trek. Sliders, this is where they like time traveling. No, no, no. The actor Jerry something. Oh, Dimensions.

Dimensional travel. The episode today was they go to a dimension. Listen. They go to a dimension where it's a religious takeover. It was fascinating to watch. This is really relevant to everybody. Okay, listen to this. Sliders is the late, it's 1998, I 1998 i think was the year i'm not entirely sure and they go to this reality

where everyone is a believer in this essentially mockery of like christianity right and there's a point in the show where they say wow you know this is a a reality or a government that's all about tradition family values and faith and spirituality. And then one of the characters from Earth Prime, which is ours, he goes, we had we had politicians who wanted to implement those same kind of laws in our in our earth. But I guess this is what it would be like if they won. It's funny. But watching it, I was like, it's actually more like critical race theory. I don't think it matters what the religion is.

When an when ideological moral authoritarians take over, it looks the same. So watching this, it was very much from the perspective of people who practice science were demonized and criminalized and the religion was paramount. And, you know, they would arrest you if you admitted you did science or if you didn't have your IDs and stuff like that. But I'm like, that analogy makes more sense in terms of cancel culture and critical race theory than it does to Christianity or any religion right now that's in the United States. Like they don't believe in science. Although in this instance, they claim to believe in science when they literally don't.

And if you believe the wrong thing, they'll cancel you. They'll cancel you for any reason. The scary thing about totalitarianism and authoritarianism is that there is nothing you can do even if you follow the rules you are expendable you are like the other fingernails to be clipped and the thing about science is nice is if a new idea appears you don't smash it out and destroy it like you would in without a trial person or something you put it on trial a new idea goes on trial that's the scientific method and you test it and that's why new idea goes on trial. That's the scientific method. And you test it.

And that's why it's better than religion. Or why it's better than religion in the 16th century when they would murder people and burn them at the stake for suggesting that the Earth revolved around the sun. I am not going to sit here. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. I'm not going to sit here and listen to your white supremacy. I truly believe it is not about supremacy.

Science. Well, you have a point. They said, they said, I was going to take it somewhere. Modern science. People in the audience were like, are they really fighting? No, no, no. They said the critical race theorists believe modern science and the idea of objectivity is racist. White supremacy.

So your ideas about going on trial and challenging ideas, we all agree on that. The scientific method is not perfect. I do agree. It's specifically stated in their literature that a reliance on data is white supremacy yeah you don't want to be obsessive you don't want to rely on data to your death there there's points where data can be wrong and the irony that i experienced as working in the charter school industry and working at the a regulator that that that oversaw like 60 charter schools in dc was that they kept saying over and over again,

we're data-driven, data-driven, data-driven, which they need to be, right? You like study where the kids are failing so that you can drill down and like reinforce stuff, data-driven, data-driven, data-driven. But then they start bringing in the CRT stuff and all the CRT stuff is like reliance on data, white supremacy, reliance on science white supremacy reliance on science white supremacy reliance on objectivity white supremacy and so at the same time as they're preaching data data-driven analytics data-driven education they're starting to slide that out and be like oh the achievement gap oh standardized testing i don't hate well hold on let's uh let's let's talk about critical race theory because as we're bringing this up, I have to pull this up.

This tweet from Eugene Goo, MD. You know Eugene, right, on Twitter? Maybe I do. Maybe I don't. I'm not going to go down with him. He's a very high profile, never Trumper. I'm blocked. Twitter personality.

Oh, I'm blocked for sure. I'm blocked for sure. Who is this guy? Eugene Goo. Okay. Cool, man. He's posting some of the most fringe and insane critical race theory social justice stuff. You're all going to get a kick out of this one.

But I'll just point out, I see all these tweets where people are commenting on something I can't see. That's because I'm blocked by the guy. What's going on? Yeah. So all you do is you right click it and you put open in a private tab and boom, you see it. Here's what I saw. Eugene Gu said, Black on Asian crimes only occur because of our system of white supremacy that strips African-Americans of their economic opportunities while taking respect and dignity away from Asian-Americans. Also, white people in power are experts at dividing and conquering to stay in power.

To which I responded, it's actually white people's fault that a black man brutally beat an Asian lady. Get your heads right, bigots. No doubt about it. No joke. They're literally. Okay. An Asian woman was brutally beaten in broad daylight by a black man. And I don't think the race matters. I think the crime matters. I don't care if it was a Jewish guy who beat the Asian lady or a quarter Korean Japanese guy who did it or a black guy who did it. I think it's the crime

that matters that we want to focus on because we want people to be seen as equals not as though it's a person's race that that drives this you know this this attack or something but what they're doing and i saw this there's a tiktok that went viral from a black woman she was like y'all are really trying to say this to imply that black people don't have the agency to know right from wrong and that white people in power are the ones who are supposed to dictate it that's so insanely racist the whole thing from the left is no personal agency none not for women not for minorities not for anybody except white people white people which is this which is actually white supremacy look at that right no only white people can elect their own behaviors there is what they're saying. There is an authority,

a global monarchy, you could argue. It was the Romans and then it was the Nords that took over England, that created the British crown, that monopolized the globe. And they do have a banking conundrum. Are we talking about the Fed already? They basically suppressed a class of people. It's a class war. We're facing a class war.

And people of different skin colors may or may not fall into different classes. And it did start with the romans and it was the british for a while and their skin color did happen to be kind of this color here's the but that doesn't mean it's this color here's the behavior all right hold on thank you for letting me write this element of this whole thing is that the blm crt people are creating a false consciousness in the black folks in America so that they are distracted by the fact that there is a class war and that the corporations are dominating them and they are controlling their lives and they don't care about. It's not just black people. They're doing it to everyone. There was a woman.

I say that because it's Black Lives Matter saying. Right, right, right. The woman in San Francisco, she was a school board member, vice president of the school board or whatever, went on this Twitter thread about how she's trying to convince Asians to become critical race theorists, to join the cult. And then she calls them racial slurs. So they're going after everybody. I was going to tweet something earlier. I said not to because I was like, this is going to be too spicy. You know what I was going to tweet? Are we going to get canceled on YouTube now? No, I'll say it right now oh boy jack it was good being here black lives matter you're right i don't know how to

respond do you agree you know i've been faced with this very question in the street surrounded by 30 angry people all alone at two o'clock in the morning and you know what i said what'd you say no why you want to poke the mob no because they were trying to force me to say something that i didn't believe in the in the truest basic context of the sentence yes of course black lives matter lowercase b lowercase l lowercase m asian lives matter yes we've seen we've seen that one now hispanic lives matter indeed yeah lgbtqia plus lives matter yeah yes yes absolutely women's lives matter yes for sure and that's everyone right why people that's is that everybody why people did i forget anybody in that in that lives matter the jews oh yeah jewish lives matter do they cool i'm half in all right all right

is that everybody neanderthal i think we got everybody right neanderthal lives didn't matter we got everybody we murdered all of them we got everybody you didn't mention white people i don't think so and i don't think that matters whoa whoa just saying if i want to get racial for a moment don't be racist bro that's that's white supremacist thank you for checking me so i saw these these funny posts like babylon b brought it up where they were like you know you saw this you saw the story no but they're funny and they're on point. It was like laughing. It was like liberal post signs in the yard saying Black Lives Matter, Asian Lives Matter and Hispanic Lives Matter getting very, very close to all lives matter.

Dangerously close to all lives matter. And so I thought about that for a second and I was like, why isn't that all lives matter? The reason why you can't say all lives matter, but you can say literally everything else is white people. Yeah, that's the creepiest thing. And I'll tell you this too it's remarkable they have this idea in critical race theory that only minorities can define their experience dealing with racism unless of course you're a minority who disagrees with them like candace owens right you know or a woman that decides she

wants to stay home or a woman that decides she wants to do whatever be married or whatever as you women can do anything they want except that except the things i that decides she wants to do whatever or be married or whatever as you can women can do anything they want except that except the things i don't want you to do if they get permission from the cult right so uh my my kids high school the principal the day after the um the the massage parlor shooting right where the guy killed a couple of white girls and like six asian ladies the day after the principal sends out an email to everyone saying, Asian American hate and da, da, da, this race-driven, come, we'll have this after-school kumbaya to come together

against white supremacy culture, yada, yada. This was before any of the facts were out, any of the data was out. And it got me thinking, and it makes me have to talk to my kids. Like, I don't want to have to talk to my kids about that every day, but when the principal is sending this to me and I know that they're talking to kids about, I have to talk to them about it. And I brought up to my daughter who is looking at colleges and she's really smart and she has crew. So she's like looking at Ivy league colleges, right? And she knows what all the acceptance rates are. She knows what all the average SATs you need to get, and she knows that Asian kids need to get like 400 points higher on the SATs

in order to get accepted to Harvard compared to other students of equal SATs. That's what the DOJ lawsuit was all about that Donald Trump's DOJ initiated. Well, what was the first thing that Joe Biden did? Besides putting the you know trans people into sports and getting rid of title nine they they dropped that lawsuit yep so now it's very clear to my daughter just living through this that everybody's piling on asian american hate asian american hate white supremacy white supremacy but then she's also like well why why do they have to get 400 points higher on sat just to get into harvard and why is joe biden

not fighting for them why isn is joel biden not fighting for them why isn't joel biden fighting for asian americans when you is that white supremacy is joe biden a white supremacist yes he is wait am i gonna is that defamation no no it's an opinion but the left would agree with you let me ask you jack and for everyone for everyone in the uh in the audience that are listening that are white, when you were filling out job applications when you were a kid, when you were 16, getting your first job, and for those years, was there ever a consideration your family gave special thought to when you were filling out these applications and listing your race?

No, I just put down Caucasian. I was told to lie. Where are you? I was told to lie. And put in my handwork? I was told I have to lie. What did you have to lie to? I was told by my parents that if I admitted I was Asian, they would discriminate against

me because it's legal. It's allowed. And you're right. Absolutely. It's always been that way. And I was told to lie. They said, there's no special interest group for you. They will be racist against you.

They will discriminate against you. And it's okay. They allow it. So you're better off either just saying you're white and hoping they don't ask about it. And then maybe just lie and or say you're Hispanic oric or something because you know maybe then you might get left alone i think that the asian american population is going to be the strongest ally the anti-woke have in in america moving forward asian ideas of meritocracy are antithetical to the woke left, right? Because meritocracy means I can do it.

I can fix it. I can work hard. I can get up at 5 o'clock in the morning to make the donuts, if anybody's old enough to catch that reference, and I can get ahead. I don't know that reference. Yeah, because you're not old enough to have Krispy Kreme. No, Dunkin' Donuts. Time to make the donuts. This guy gets up at 4 o'clock in the morning. Every morning

he wakes up. Time to make the donuts. Did you know that Dunkin' Donuts. Time to make the donuts. This guy gets up at 4 o'clock in the morning. Every morning he wakes up. Time to make the donuts. Did you know that Dunkin' Donuts used to have a handle? The donuts, actually, they would bake them with a handle on it that you would hold. Of pastry? A handle of pastry? Yeah, like it was a donut, but a piece of the donut would stick up. You'd hold and dip it in your coffee. I mean, that sounds pretty good to me.

I haven't had a donut in years, but I would crush one right now. Anyway, back to the more. I want to talk about how stupid. The point is that meritocracy is antithetical to progressive left. The biggest divide that we have is between blank slate and determinists

and people who say, I can do it, and people who say, I can't do it. I love this. Before I started kindergarten, my Asian mom was tutoring me, my siblings in math. We were like babies who couldn't even barely communicate.

I'm being homeschooled. I was being taught how to play chess. I love it. Because for whatever reason, that exists in the minds of my grandma or her parents or whatever. And it was passed down. And also my grandfather, who was a World War II vet. And he also was a very, you know, work hard and you two can make

it. But he was also super progressive, man. He dedicated his life to helping underprivileged and minority communities to the day he died. That's what he did. And he sacrificed so much for that. And this is a guy who, when it was illegal to be in mixed race relationships absolutely went for it he was as progressive as they come but he still believed in hard work and earning your your place i remember one time i was hanging out with him and we had i was hungry and i was broke and i was crashing at his place i was like 18 and he had moldy bread that was all he had and i made a sandwich and then realized i was mold on it. And he goes, come on, you realize what it was like in the depression?

He grabs it and just shoves it in his mouth. And he's like, you take what you can get. He's like, I ate shoes, dude. Yeah, man. Yup. And he was progressive.

What did he do during the Great Depression? I know, but that progressive is just a different term. My grandma's like worked when she was like nine. She had to work. Eating moldy bread. He was like, you want to talk about what we ate back then?

And he just ate the moldy sandwich like, and I'm like, I think he can get sick from doing that i'm this pampered guy yeah but i i think about i think about that idea of meritocracy and it's absolutely true man just like the the just the culture in general is very much i'm i'm reminded of this family guy joke where it's a a. It's an eight. Okay, I'm going to ruin it. But the joke was something like you're as strict as Asian parents or whatever. And then it's a door opens and an Asian middle-aged guy walked in.

He goes, are you doctor yet? And then the kid goes, dad, I'm 12. And he goes, tell me when you're doctor. And then he walks out. And it's like, it's funny. I get the joke from family guy. And I like it. It makes me laugh because the point is they're very, very strict and hardworking. Like the parents are like, you have to be a doctor.

Work harder. It's expectations. It's expectations. It's kind of like. So wait, this is, this is, this. Okay. I don't know how to frame this without getting in trouble. So I'm just going to be very delicate about it.

There are people that come from all over the world all kinds of races all kinds of cultures that come to the united states and succeed sure these are people that have elected to come across an ocean start a new life so it's a certain mentality right but it's black nigerians and and korean christians filipinos it's a whole anybody basically if you look at who makes money in america there's a whole list of immigrants and foreign nationalities and and and different genealogies that make more money there is a psychological issue with the am i can i get in trouble for saying this no what it's a specifically african-american circumstance that's not true.

You don't think so? Bro. It dates back to slavery? The slavery stuff? I'm just, I don't know. That's the, who are the ones complaining about meritocracy? It's white progressives. Is it though?

Yes. The out-group bias comes from white progressives in the suburbs. You, you, you, I just. Like virtue signaling? This is what I can't stand. It's funny. It's paradoxical. They hate white people. They should hate themselves.

But I'm talking about, I'm talking about the mindset that gets instilled in your children right that's what i'm talking about the mindset of what don't work ask the government for free stuff that comes from these white socialists are you a doctor yet are you a doctor yet are you a doctor yet i know but that's a mindset it's the mindset that breeds the success i think unless we want to get into like actual genes and dna i'll be iq and things that's a good conversation i'll tell you this no no no geneticist on the show or not doing on youtube on the south side of chicago we have there's a word you've probably heard hustling hustlers yeah yeah because the people on the south side of every race

were working and finding a way in any way possible to make money and to come up. Some of them would go in bad directions because it was a path towards acquiring something. A lot of people would sell CDs. Some people would sell drugs. Not always a good thing, but it was hustling and working really hard. And then I grow up from the South side of Chicago in this mixed race community of all the people who are hustling every day. They want to come up. And then I go see these white, white suburb kids who are like, I think the government should pay for everything. So I'll tell you, man, it's the people who are living in the gutter

who are fighting tooth and nail of all different backgrounds and races to figure something out. And then you get these people who are born into these uppity, well-to-do liberal circles. For some reason, they don't believe in meritocracy.

They don't want to work hard. They quite literally say, work is obsolete. I don't know any of those people honestly i don't know any of those white uppity suburban people who feel like they want the government to provide everything because all of the white suburban people that i come in contact with and asians and whatever are all like you better study you better get 1600 you better get into harvard what these are like high school kids and their parents are telling them the same thing they got two lawyers for parents they're looking at their kids they're like you better do this lawyer yet lawyer yet look at the data on in

group out group bias yeah and who which group is anti like hates white people and is predominantly is overwhelmingly progressive black lives Lives Matter is overwhelmingly white. The data shows us this. The people are pushing critical race theory and we're pushing socialism are overwhelmingly white. No, no, no. The foot soldiers are overwhelmingly white. But the founders of Black Lives Matter are not white. Like Sean King? I'm not going there.

He's one of the founders of Black Lives Matter. I'm not going there. Listen, man. You going there listen man you go in there he we look at the data and i see there is historical racism remnants of these old policies we've gotten rid of that still have lingering effects and i see from the civil rights fight the battle for civil rights to today the people fighting for the status quo are these white progressives. They're far left economically. They're far left socially.

And these are the people who are making things worse for everybody. You're talking about D'Angelo. Yeah, absolutely. People like that. But then there's Kendi. Of course. Yeah. It seems like race isn't a factor in whether or not you believe stupid things and want to destroy the lives of your children.

Right. Dude, calling people Asian is about as ignorant as you can be. Right. It's like saying Earthling, basically. Or like saying a North American. Like for someone that's from Mexico, he's a North American. Asia's a continent.

People from India are Asian. People from Pakistan are Asian. People from Japan are Asian. They're all very different culturally. That guy that... No, no, never mind. I got my events mixed up in my register. And yet, head news on ABC,

Asian hate. It's a continent. It's the biggest continent on Earth. Russians are Asian. With the most people. Russia's technically European, even though it spans all across Asia. No, it's Eurasian. Okay, because it's on both continents.

Correct. The capital was in Europe, I think. Look at the Russians who live on the east coast of Russia. Yeah, Kazakhstan or whatever. They basically... No, no, east coast. I'm talking about like north of North Korea and near Japan. Yeah, they look or whatever. They basically... No, no. East Coast. I'm talking about like north of North Korea. Right. And near Japan.

Yeah, they look like East Asians. It's insane that people are called Asian. That's insane to me. It's a continent. Listen, in the UK, it creates problems because Indian, you know, people from India, Asian. Middle Eastern, Asian. Yes, Middle Eastern. Yeah, they are.

That's how they do it. So it's like... What does it even mean? But it doesn't mean anything, right? Does that mean that people from Pakistan have to get 400 points higher on their sats to get into harvard no i suppose it's if you just have a name that sounds chinese or japanese or korean that's about as racist as you can get that's why we were trying to sue them culturally impotent and biden is like no we're not going to try to prosecute that oh geez there are people who want to exploit other people and they tell them lies to do it.

And you will see that there are people of all different backgrounds and all different races who believe very, very intelligent things and have great ideas and work hard and study. And the point is, you brought it up earlier, all over the world, people come from all different countries, from Korea, from Japan, China, from Colombia, Brazil, Nicaragua, Nigeria, and they find success here. Yes. There's something about these progressive Americans. And I say mainly the white ones, but it is of all different backgrounds. Absolutely. Who believe dumb things. So I want to bring this point up. I think when you look at the success of many of the immigrants who come here, you can see like this is one of the reasons i absolutely just and i i just despise people using race as a pretext for any one of these ideas because you're not going to tell me dude these nigerian families who come here and find tremendous success are indicative of some kind of racial

issue nah man they prove the opposite they prove it's Americans. That's what I just said a minute ago. And you pooh poohed me. Listen, well, there's I said it's uniquely African-American. The circumstances. It sounded like you were saying it was specific to black people in America. That's yes. No, I'm no to African-American population. Not not not not Africans in America. Right.

That's a there's a distinction. Yes. So it sounded like you were saying that the problems that we were seeing with a progressive left and a lack of meritocracy and constructivism was specific to black people. But you mean to people in the United States who are in the black community. Of African-American descent, like have been in the United States in African-American descent for generations. I still think you were wrong. Fine. Because it is mostly white progressives who are pushing these ideas. And yes, there are many people in Black Lives Matter support it.

But Black Lives Matter protests, according to the data, predominantly white. What I'm talking about is performance, the data. So as an educator, I constantly looked at test scores and competency and achievement. And the data is very clear, very clear, even adjusting for geography, adjusting for urban versus rural, adjusting for income. Okay. So the achievement gap is very clear. It is African American, Hispanic, white, and an Asian like this.

And the graph goes like this even for income, right? So like the more money you make, everybody's achievement goes up. But the difference between the four groups is consistent. It's something American. It's something in America. Yes, which is what I think. But we were talking about particularly that thing but yes i hear what you're saying i think the issue is we have become

a wealthy nation and our children have rested on the laurels of the children of those who found success you thought you mentioned so you you go generation you go a generation of hard workers who found success they have kids those kids don't understand the hard work it took to achieve the success but sit rest on the laurels i don't know who you're hanging out with dude because all the guys all the people in the suburbs of washington dc they are stone cold killers and they are doing everything they possibly can enormous enormous arms race of studies and tutors and programs and a thousand after-school programs and you got to get a and you got to have a 5.0 GPA. I think that's the bubble you're in, bro.

Yeah. In my suburbs from in Akron, Ohio suburbs, it was like, you mentioned the hustle and you mentioned test scores. And it's a combo, I think, because some people will hustle, but they'll sell drugs and go to prison. Some people will ace every test and have no hustle. There are, and you need a combo to succeed in this world. I could ace every test, but I didn't learn how to hustle. I didn't have to. That's why. There are more poor white people in this country

than poor people of other races. It's the largest demographic. In absolute gross numbers. Right. And you're not going to tell me that the progressive socialists that are going to college and graduating are not these uppity progressive well-to-do liberals. And I'll tell you this, the crackhead kids from my neighborhood who are white and those who died doing drugs are also not overt progressives they're all like day laborers they all work really hard and they do menial labor and they're they're tradesmen and things like that some of them died because these are not the people who are reading books about anti-racism nor do they care about it nor do they watch shows like this some of them might.

Most of them don't. The reason why I bring up the discrepancy in the test scores and achievement and stuff, after controlling for urban, rural, and income, why is that important? It's important because we have to understand what the real issues are in order to address them. All right. Now, here's the problem with that. That's exactly what the critical race theorists are doing.

And what happens is they recognize some very real problems. Like, if you go back to redlining and blockbusting, very real policies that existed until the 1980s. Yeah. Sure, you can control for income now, but can you control for the generational wealth of knowledge and culture that's been passed down for hundreds of years by people who have settled and traveled all over the world to come to this country versus people who are literally enslaved only a few hundred years ago. I think we're making the same argument, dude. I think there's a specific set of circumstances that have created problems specifically for the achievement of the African-American community, slave descendant, been here through Jim Crow,

the whole thing specifically around that. It's not necessarily race, right? Because the black Nigerians come to America, right? And they make money, right? That's what I was trying to clear. Okay, that's right. We are in agreement. I want to point something out because I said this the other day.

I said it on Twitter. who are willing to climb over mountains, traverse vast swaths of desert, to come to America to get that dream than these uppity, anti-American, slavocracy, awful country people. I don't want illegal immigrants to come to America for a number of reasons. However, I totally respect the hustle. Yeah, we're descendants of illegal immigrants. They weren't invited to this country,

to the North American's land. They weren't asked to slaughter and take. There was no country. Yeah. Well, there was. We just didn't know anything about it. There were all sorts of tribes. Yeah.

There were nations of Native Americans that lived here, the Cherokee, the Sioux. Which is a good reason to say, hey, we don't want illegal immigrants to come, right? Well, it's also a good reason to say, I respect the hustle of the illegal immigrant. We're descended from it. We want immigrants to come, especially those of that level of gumption. And we want them to enter legally. Yes. So that's why I said illegal.

But I also don't want stupid laws. Think about if we could take all of these people who are like, I'm going to ride on top of a train for thousands of miles and then like walk through the desert because I want to be in America. Imagine if we got these people to come in here and start businesses. It would be great for the economy. and then walk through the desert because I want to be in America. Imagine if we got these people to come in here and start businesses. Heck yeah. It would be great for the economy. I mean, those values of work hard and succeed and fight for what you want and you want to achieve, brilliant. Meanwhile, we got people who are like, life sucks. The government should pay for it, and I don't want to work.

Something about that hustle you talked about earlier, I think it's a big part of it. And maybe it's too vague, probably broken down into more things. But where I grew up, there just wasn't a lot of hustle. You didn't need a hustle. We were all born middle America, lower middle class or middle class, and everything was provided. You could get a job. I was forced to get a job. I was forced to kind of hustle. My parents kind of pushed me to do it. Thank God. But most people didn't. They never left the state. It must be in my blood or something because I grew up upper middle class and rich suburbs. And all I wanted to do was work.

All I wanted. I was like, I remember being eight years old and hustling. I remember being 10 years old with a paper out, getting up at four o'clock in the morning while I'm still in middle school or even sixth grade, I think, to deliver papers to make that paper. And I remember my dad saying to me over and over again, son, you're going to work your whole life. Why do you want to work now? And I was like, okay, dad, give me money. And he's like, no. I'm like, all right, well, I'm working.

I'm working. Where do these Democratic socialist types come from? I don't know, man. They're not coming from inner cities. They're not coming from the south side, bro. I don't know. They're coming from suburbs and they're being i don't know wherever they're coming from suburbs and they're being put up in colleges and they're being indoctrinated and you maybe went to maybe you just hung out with the people who didn't fall into those circles it's funny i didn't hang

out it's possible that it's like this genetic anomalies in humans like when you have the hustle and the drive that might be more to it than that i know that your environment plays into it but maybe it's something less tangible no i think you've got a bunch of people who are indoctrinated and believe dumb things and they want to join the tribe yeah and there's some people who don't because why is it that some people wake up from this and so like the idea of getting red pelt wouldn't exist if it was inherent in people in the past do you think these people you're talking about that don't have the hustle do you think think that they play soccer and try to win? Do you think that they're competitive against their brother and sister? They're probably the people who got the participation trophy.

So they're just hanging out with their boys, and there's a keg of beer on the other side of the yard, and they never are like, let's race and just see who can get there the fastest? You don't think that there's like a – you're saying there's a missing sense of competitiveness that's could be ingrained through parents who are telling kids to behave certain ways or to do things i think i think there's a mix of nature and nurture for sure some people are taller than others some people are stronger some people are weaker some people have blonde hair some people have brown hair that's all fact and so that will absolutely play and play a role in people's behavior like if you if your body produces more testosterone for some reason then you might be a bit more aggressive so yes in that regard i think what we have is a lot of people who i just think about the people i know who are like this and how they grew up they didn't grow up having to strive for anything they don't understand what hard work

is they're just people who look we're not these people are not by any means millionaires but when you have food every day no matter what what are you fighting for wow i wonder if it's the people that grew up when you thinking i'm gonna be a cog in the machine and then they went they studied in college they got in debt they went to become a cog machine the machine broke down another they're aimless right i mean if anybody in the world could have been imbued with a sense of privilege it's me okay my both of my parents have graduate degrees so you're saying your lived experience changes i don't know what happened both of my parents have graduate degrees i grew up in the suburbs of washington dc i screwed up every which way possible i had everything handed to me i'm

six foot four i'm handsome i'm smart i could have anything i want and like privilege everywhere and all i want to do is hustle that's all i want to do work work work work hustle hustle hustle you gotta have gary vaynerchuk on your show you guys are a lot of life i don't i i but so how how did my circumstances breed a sense of hustle and competitiveness the amount of variables in your life you can't say you don't know the amount of variables in your life you'd need to calculate to figure out where it was in your life where you realize if i don't fight i won't succeed there are some people who never experience that and it's not until they get into their 20s where they're like i have to work bring on the communism yeah they go to school until they're 26 did you go to college did i yeah

yeah but uh not until i was like 19 or 20 so you had a period where you were like working and figuring things out i was? I started a record label and I was a rave producer and a DJ. And so there are people who go to grade school then go to high school and then immediately

go to college and rack up debt and all they do is what they're told to do and then when they get out they're 22, they're 24, 26, whatever year

they finally decide to stop and they realize all of a sudden there's no one left to tell them what to do. They got to figure it out. They don't know what to do so they want the government to do it for them.

Crappy ass parents. Exactly. Bad parents. And that's probably the answer to most all of the questions we're talking about tonight. One hundred ten percent. Speaking of somebody with bad parents, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says referring to migrants coming to the US as a surge is a white supremacist dog whistle. The lady who claimed that Donald Trump was putting kids in cages and concentration camps has finally come out and made a statement. We were all waiting for it because, you know, when Project Veritas put out that video of the photos and the videos of what was going on

in these migrant detention facilities for kids, James O'Keefe was like, where are you at, AOC? You went down and you weeped when Donald Trump had these facilities. Wept. Where are you now? Wept. I was thinking the same thing. I actually was thinking that too. You went down and you cried.

Where are you now? Well, fear not, friends. She did an Instagram video where she said that there's no migrant crisis. How dare you? It's an imperialism crisis. And then she said, and gut check, anybody who says surge is trying to frame it militaristically because these children are not insurgents. They're not invaders. They're children.

Wait, she confused the word surge, which means a sudden increase with the word insurgent, which is like a military conflict. So she's that stupid dude. Well, I got to give her some credit because that homology is actually the same. Is it really? Yes. Yeah. So surge comes from... I looked it up because she said a lot of people were mocking her.

And I was like, instead of me coming out and just saying something like that. You do your research, too. I did. I looked up the etymology. Surge comes from the Latin. It's like it's like suger. I can't pronounce it. And it means a sudden rush or flow.

And insurgent comes from to surge referencing an individual who breaks through. So they're the same root word a a massive outpouring so insurgent was a reference to people storming the gates or something like that got it insurgents they're surging through but that's not the point it is not white supremacy when when nbc said there was a surge at the border that's insane and it's not and it's not indicating that they're insurgents either right they're different words let's get that exactly they might have the same root and i see what she was trying to do such on a rap or something and like be clever with their language but this is just the level of politics we get in this country you get you know i i facetiously

said she had bad parents i don't i can't i don't know what her parents are like i don't know her parents are shameful but i will say i think her mom's pretty cool have you seen her mom she raised a congresswoman so i know i've never seen her i don't know that's a good thing she speaks highly of her i don't know if as if becoming any single as if becoming a freshman congressman is some level of achievement in america bro come on i don't know i bow to your wisdom aoc is a political elite masquerading as someone working class and that's why she loves it when conservatives are like, you're a bartender. She then turns around to all of the working class people and goes, now they're making fun of me for being just like you. Don't do that. She's not just a bartender.

She's a political establishment elite. She was on the board of one of those super PACs to get these people elected. She knows what she's doing. She's's great at it and she is a duplicitous manipulator who will scream concentration camp under donald trump and then when joe biden ups the ante and has more children detained she goes there's no migrant crisis when aoc was a bartender if i walked up to the bar six foot four handsome smiled at her dropped to 20 in advance as a tip you think she gave me better service after that than the short little guy who looked dirty and who didn't tip very well? Damn right she would have. She wants that 20.

G-D-A-O-C. She's there for money. That's why she was working. In it for the money. It's a job. It's a job. Yeah, for sure. Listen, whatever.

That's why you tip ahead when you go to a bar. Tip ahead. Always tip ahead, guys. She's not working class. She was barely working class. Bare guys. She's not working class. She was barely working class. Barely. She's your typical. But she's not working class, and she's also not educated class.

So what is she? No, she went to college. She got a degree. Political class. Educated class. Absolutely. Sorry, I meant smart. That's not mutually exclusive with working class.

She's intelligent, but doesn't necessarily have a lot of common sense. I mean, it is a migrant crisis, and it is a level of classical superiority. There is a supremacy issue going on with the military industrial complex, the banking elite establishment. What does that have to do with people coming to the border? Let me finish. What does that have to do with people coming to the border and specifically telling ABC and NBC, Joe Biden is giving us this opportunity and we'll get a better deal if we come now um that there that there is still a crisis of people trying to get to the united states illegally and because of biden and there is a supremacy issue on earth what does that mean it's like a class issue so she's right it doesn't have to be that there's

not one now there's the other or there's not that one. Now it's back to the first one. It's both, dude. There's that's that's that's absolutely besides the point. AOC said Trump was putting children in concentration camps. Now, under Joe Biden, she is saying there is no migrant crisis. It's silly. That's that's not common. She is a duplicitous, manipulative person. She's a person. I won't I won't go further with the insult.

Let's keep it to the facts. I can't deny your lived experience. That's what she does. I hate the fact that we give her fuel by talking about her. Well, look, man, she's going to be president one day, so you better start talking about her now.

Stop. Dude, the thing about popularity concepts and politics is there's no stopping people like that. Unless they start banning her off social media, the only there i guess there is stopping people like that by banning them off social media which is kind of terrifying but she's super popular and she's 24 or 5 or something right she's much she's gonna be 30 30 she's gonna be 60 and still doing this it's crazy and if she's if she goes more insane uh that's very very dangerous for the direction of our country aoc is uh she she's one of the most dangerous people we have probably i'll say i'll say this and i hope all the leftists take

the clip clip this clip this video and post it she's probably the most dangerous person in politics because she's extremely divisive she's extremely mean she's duplicitous manipulative and for all the things they complained about trump she represents very much those same things yeah she embodies the danger of populism that's for sure she herself maybe she'll change tomorrow but her behavior is the danger of populism deceptive tell me how she's a real populist she has i don't know 20 60 million how many twitter followers that has nothing to do she's popular on twitter and that's how she gets her populism. Populism is not being popular, bro. Yeah, it's getting,

it's having the crowd follow you and getting stuff done because the crowd is obsessed with you. That's not what it is. Cult of personality, all that stuff. That's not true. You're just not using populist

the right way. Well, maybe there's a technical word for it, but it comes from the word popular. Right. It's a reference to supporting the people versus supporting the elites. There's elitism, and there's populism.

Populists say, what do the people want of me? And elitists say, I'm going to serve the banking institutions in the Federal Reserve. AOC is not a populist. She just masquerades as one. And then she lies and spits in people's faces. And too many people don't follow the news and just say, wow, she's great because they get all of this. She was a bartender. She was a bartender. So this is what I've been doing. I love this. The leftists have started figuring out what's going on and posting the videos. When I tweet my leftist opinions,

when I tweet my more conservative opinions, what happens is, if I tweet tax the rich, you know what happens? Conservatives don't retweet that. Leftists retweet that. You're hilarious on Twitter. Then all of the left,

all of the left, they see this retweet going viral in their bubble of Tim Pool saying tax the rich. And they're like, wow, Tim Pool is based. And then I'll say something like universal gun ownership, defend 2A, and conservatives go crazy with that. And they're like, wow, Tim, he's becoming so pro-2A and libertarian and so based. And what happens is what people need to understand about Twitter and social media is that the left and the right bubbles do not overlap. So if I tweet something the right doesn't like, the left goes nuts with it and they support it.

And if I tweet something the right likes, the right goes nuts with it and supports that. This is the nature of social media. AOC understands these principles. She manipulates them. She knows that if she says Donald Trump is putting kids in concentration camps, the left will throw it into the wind and it'll go crazy. She also knows that if Joe Biden is president and she tweets there's no migrant crisis or she says on Instagram, the left will take it and throw it in the air and go crazy. Not the same leftists, but enough of them that what ends up happening is regular Democrat

types only see her supporting Joe Biden and leftists who are for open borders only see her criticizing donald trump they don't see the overlap she exploits this for power it's great it's brilliant she's really good at it in fact one of the best but she's also extremely divisive and says the guy who's doing exactly the same thing but i'm not i'm not no i'm i'm tweeting my opinions i know it's also i believe you're being slightly performative and provocative with that. There's a big difference to where if I tweet something like ban all guns and then tweeted guns for everyone, I'm not doing that. I'm tweeting things like trans people should be armed to the teeth and so should the Black

Panthers. Did you say like ban all rich people or something the other day? I said I said arrest arrest everyone make being rich illegal. Yeah. Those are jokes. Okay. That's that's being rich illegal. Yeah. Those are jokes. Okay, I see. That's different. Slightly different, yeah.

Right? The point I'm making is I'm mocking what AOC does. That's the point. Yes, yes. To prove a point about the duplicitous nature of these politicians, that I can tweet something absolutely absurd, arrest rich people. Yeah, but people will take that seriously. You got to be careful if it's in text.

I don't care. Well. That's ridiculous. I care. If you don't, the point is they won't go to my profile and read my tweets where I then, I said, make poverty illegal, make being rich illegal, arrest everyone. Now here's what happens. They just see the one that gets retweeted.

Exactly my point. And then when the left caught wind of it and started saying, look what he's doing, I was like, hey, you finally investigated to figure out what the full picture was supposed to be instead of clipping things out of context to grift on Twitter. Twitter is the grift factory. They accuse everyone else of being grifters, but they come to this show and they take a one minute clip and they say, look what Tim Pool said, and they omit the other 50 minutes. And then all these people only get that particular clip filtered to them. And so when I posted an M-16 and a trans flag, the leftists are like,

what's happened to Tim Pool? Nothing. We quite literally talk about why everyone should own guns, including trans people in the Black Panthers. You just don't watch the show. So I'm sick and tired of this manipulation game where people take things out of context to feed red meat to particular bases on social media. And it's literally what AOC does when she panders to the establishment left, and then she panders to the progressives she does not represent any one of them she wants power shocker yeah shocker and i just laugh when you said that people don't watch the other 50 minutes of the show and or by the way consult the entire decade-long body of work right so you can't right that's the problem is you have to cherry pick people so when i try and understand them i tweeted uh tax hollywood millionaires and billionaires at 90

and then conservatives all started laughing and retweeting it because it's funny because who likes hollywood and the leftists started retweeting it and sharing it because they were like yeah all right tax the rich we'll start we'll start there and everyone like hey we agree at this point okay so we can start here and then start to figure out who we want to tax. I'll tell you what I don't get, though. I don't quite understand why they're why the libertarians and the conservatives are so concerned about, you know, Jeff Bezos's billions of dollars. Like, I understand a wealth tax makes no sense and won't work. I understand that we don't want the government to have power.

Those arguments I get. But from that point on, it's kind of like, OK, I got no problem if we strip the power away from the ultra wealthy. And it's funny because I tweeted this and these leftists who just want to hate me, they're like, Tim, but what about you? You'll be taxed as well. I'm like, okay, like tax Bernie Sanders. I'll stand in line with him. I don't care. I don't like the idea that these people have disproportionate power and that a working class dad who's got three kids, a working class dad with three kids who's making 70 70k 80k a year has no say in his government because tom steyer can flood his entire state with 500 million dollars and then get guns banned and i think i can't defend himself i don't

like that and we need solutions to that i don't know what the solution is but i'm just like whatever tax the rich people like tom steyer michael bloomberg shouldn't be allowed to do what they did in this past election well you know there's mckenzie bezos the same argument can be made about free speech can be made about people who are saying things this is outrageous semi-outrageous not really outrageous ah forget it we get rid of those outrageous people at the very top that's totally different no it is like using a hammer to try and solve the problem of like a few rusty nails like political advertisements different than stripping everyone of their wealth right wealth taxes don't

don't work i'm just saying there's a huge problem millionaires people with hundreds of millions of dollars and billionaires but do you believe in meritocracy tim yes so if a guy if a nigerian christian guy comes to america he, makes $10 billion hustling, floods his state with political ads saying no guns for anybody, and they win, you're saying we should strip that guy of his money? No, I'm saying he shouldn't be allowed to flood the zone like that. Why not? He came to America with nothing. He made all the money that he wanted, and he's putting out his message into the universe, all based on his hard work.

Do you want to know why the Democrats control everything right now? Yes or no, Tim? Yes or no? I told you. No. He should not be allowed to do that. Jeff Bezos, McKenzie Bezos, George Soros, Tom Steyer, Michael Bloomberg dumped so much, Mark Zuckerberg,

hundreds of millions of dollars to fortify the election. And we're sitting sitting here right now. Yes, fortify. And we're sitting here right now complaining about censorship because billionaire tech oligarchs have too much power and nothing to stop them because people like Mike Bloomberg put five hundred million dollars to make sure that our ideas and meritocracy does not win there has to be a line his meritocracy is just bigger than yours great so i guess we just have to live to the boot of of mike bloomberg steyer and george soros we could ban political advertisement i don't know the solution but i don't like these people having the power to subvert a regular working class dad who's like i need my job on the keystone pipeline It's going to be better for this country.

I know I work there. And then these people come in and dump billions of dollars, which destroys all of these people's jobs. And they had no say. 16 people can override the opinions of the entire working class of this country. Well, I'm not for that. I don't like the idea of being able to buy advertisements, but I do like the idea of being able to make a YouTube video to my 600,000 followers and tell them vote A instead of B, and then they all do it.

Maybe that's still kind of bad, but it's unstoppable. I don't know. Right. Unless you get an SEC charge for doing stuff, something like that. The challenge is, how do you actually control for this? I don't know. What I do know is it is a serious problem. And I can't understand when I have these conversations with libertarians and I'm like, you're sitting here complaining that you got banned on YouTube

and then you're defending Mark Zuckerberg's right to do everything he's doing. So like, don't come to me, man. I had a conversation at an event in Milwaukee where this guy was like, private company,

we shouldn't interfere. And I was like, okay, come talk to me when your ideology has been purged from the internet and you're no longer allowed to speak and then I'm the one with the channel and you're begging me for an interview.

I have such a hard time with this because I understand exactly what you're saying and I do believe that the voice of the American middle class and working class and the huge swaths of the population in America should have a voice. But I know that Bill Gates was not born ultra rich. That MRF-er.

But what does that have to do with it? Because he innovated. He created a product that everyone in the world wants and he got money and now he's deciding what to do with it that's like the most american thing that there is buying a yacht is deciding what to do with your money no why why would somebody's decisions on how to spend their money why why do you have any say in that so you're an elitist not a populist i'm that guy came from middle class america he's an elite right he wasn't he is he is an elite he earned it

steyer bloomberg the coke brothers the mercers george soros they're all elites mackenzie bezos is an elite and they have infinitely more say than you ever will in fact there have been numerous studies we've talked about them that show public opinion does not sway policy wealthy donors do that is a problem and it's leading to the critical race theory explosion when major corporations who don't care about you flood the zone and the billionaires flood the zone and suppress your ability to communicate or even vote my point in bringing this up is that this is a very tricky subject. Absolutely. It's a very tricky subject

because you know what? One day, Tim, Tim, beginning of the show, I'm going to become a billion dollar media company. Holler. What are you going to do with that money then?

Invest in culture and shows and influence. And not dump money into political races and commercials to ensure that my ideas are going to infect other people's ways of living.

Are your ideas infecting other people right now? That's right. They are. They are. Which is why I've stated already, it is a very difficult problem. As we've talked about before, I have a YouTube channel. That meritocracy allows me the ability to speak to a lot of people who might agree with me or disagree with me.

And what happens is ultra rich people dump money into people like me so that they can support things I say or ask me to say things on their behalf. We need to figure out this problem. And I don't know if it's an, I don't think it's an easy solution. I don't know what the solution is, but I can tell you this. It is a very obvious problem that one guy in New York can go to Texas and dump so much money in it that the people of Texas are forced to live under the ideology of fringe cultist wackos.

So what happens then? The people who are forced to live under the boot of a fringe minority cult become angry and violence erupts. If we don't solve for this problem, it will be bad for everybody. We have duplicitous individuals on the progressive left who support the democratic establishment

and pretend to want to oppose this stuff. They't really do it i realize i'm teetering very close to build your own internet kind of argument at this point which i don't believe it right like there are some things like the public square which has been dominated and taken over by tech companies and therefore it needs to have some regulation to it but there's some a visceral reaction in me when i think that in our example that a guy can come from Nigeria with nothing, make $10 trillion, and then you want to tell him what to do with that money. Well, not what to do, but what not to do. You're just setting limits with what he can do. It's kind of like the big –

Well, it's different than telling someone what to do. It's different than commanding them. Saying I don't want you to – maybe it's this simple. You can't donate money outside of your jurisdictions. You can donate in the federal elections. You can donate in your county, your state, your city. But if you live in New York, you can't donate to California. You live in Los Angeles. You can't donate to AOC. Maybe that's one solution we can do. I don't care if you've got a hundred billion dollars and you want to buy a, I don't care if you're Elon Musk. In

fact, I think Elon Musk is great. I'm stoked he's building Starbase City and building Starship and want to go to Mars. That is why it's awesome that meritocracy works. I'm not saying we should stop Elon Musk from doing that. I'm saying... So as long as they're doing what you want them to do. As long as they're not subverting the will of the people and taking away people's rights,

all right, we're pretty good on that. There's a pretty fine line between subverting the will of the people and influencing the will of the people. I know it's a difficult problem. But I think Tom Steyer going into a district where you've got, you know, 60% Republicans who believe in guns and then he floods the media

with a bunch of fallacious arguments about gun rights and lies. We shouldn't have an AR-15. It's a weapon of war, which it's literally not. And then people have an AR-15. It's a weapon of war, which it's literally not. And then people say, well, I want to ban a weapon of war or AOC who calls Trump's actually Obama's migrant detention centers, concentration camps, blames Trump for it and then claims under Biden, there's no migrant crisis. These people are manipulating the ignorant. They're manipulating the people who don't have the time or resources to follow the

news to gain power from them. Are there ultra rich people that have done good with their money and their choices? I guess Elon Musk building spaceships. Yeah. So what we're not we're not saying this is a issue of people being ultra rich. We're saying it's an issue of dickheads being ultra rich. It's an issue of the people who have tons of money specifically shutting down the entire district and the will of the majority because they have money and they can you're talking about politics specifically integrated

politics yeah you could have a billionaire from california give a youtuber in connecticut a million dollars a video to talk about gun rights to get people in florida to vote for it so that's right we believe in open and free commerce among the states i mean that's but part of america this is why it's a political challenge and i said i don't think there's an easy answer and that's why i don't think on the on the whole of things just blindly taxing the rich means anything yeah right i think but it's interesting that we've narrowed it down now it's not about being ultra rich it's not about being ultra rich and doing what you want with your money it's being ultra rich and doing no offense and doing

what tim thinks is not the right thing with the money that's not setting limitations with your money you can't do whatever you want with money i can't hire armed bodyguards to go murder you there's laws against i don't care if they're conservatives who are pro-gun or they're liberals who are anti-gun i don't think people in california with a billion dollars should spend 25 million dollars in a small virginian county to impose their will on the people who live there. So you think that it's like a billionaire from Texas who sees that the Second Amendment rights in Virginia are teetering.

If he sent money to Virginia to run a pro-2A campaign, you would be opposed to that? Wrong. The people who live in Virginia are the ones who decide how they want to live and when so if a virgin i'm sorry if a virginia resident was like hey i need some help running this political campaign please people send me money i want to promote to a in my state you would oppose that person from yes from saying yes from soliciting donations from people out of steps absolutely wow aoc only exists as a- That's big time, bro.

That is big time. And I've always maintained that position. I've said repeatedly, Ocasio-Cortez only wins because she gets money from Hollywood, from these major blue districts, where because she's active online, I bet the people who live in New York don't even agree with her for the most part, but she's able to rally a ton of people because here's what happens. You've got one person in every city who's a wacko cultist and they have no power on their own where they live. One of their wacko cultists goes online and says, hey, wacko cultist, give me money. And then all of these different states and cities of wacko cultists flood money to this person.

And now wacko cultists flood money to this person. And now wacko cultists can run campaigns where they're like, I'm the good person. Vote for me. And then they win. Congratulations. That's how you get a wacko cultist who no one actually supported and had no merit or influence. You're saying that the people of that jurisdiction have no agency. No, I'm not.

Yeah, you are. You're saying that they are all simply persuaded by money. Do you know how many votes AOC got? I have no idea. She barely cracked 20%, I think, of her district. But it was enough to win. It was enough to influence people who don't know who she is and what she represents because they run BS propaganda to win. So that's empowered by other extremists in other parts of the country. I mean, it sounds to me it's just like, you know, do it better.

Do is the answer. Advocate for your political position better raise money better create more alliances in a better way become more powerful that's what you're saying basically the country that we have right now come on should we say people should just in order to fight power shouldn't we say to them become more powerful not chop off the legs of the powerful sometimes if the race is determined by specifically 10 people you are not going to crack that and when you have 328.2 million people or whatever and they are living under the rules of fringe extremist lunatics you call them you hey bill

gates he's got he worked really hard he made all this money the dude also believes them dumb things and he does dumb things too too, like any other person. We don't want oligarchs. I don't want to live under oligarchy. I think regular people should vote and there should be the Electoral College. It's brilliant. Jurisdictional elections, local elections. Brilliant.

But what happens when a handful of billionaires flood the zone with fake news, with lies and manipulation? What happens when NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN claim Donald Trump is a Russian agent and then he loses reelection? And what happens then when gas skyrockets or when the economy falters or we get a crisis at the border? You see, the problem is a bunch of billionaires stood up and said, we hate Trump because he's bad for us.

And now we're dealing with a wave of problems two months in to Joe Biden's presidency. That's the problem, because if it was an honest press and if we didn't have these people manipulating for their own personal whims, they're individuals. A centralized network is not nearly as powerful as a decentralized network because there because it's a fault point. If you have 100,000 computers and one fails, you still got all those other computers operating. That's 999,000. That's right.

And now because we have a small handful of billionaires who are manipulating the market and media, one person with stupid ideas can get sodas and guns banned for everybody else. And people don't want to live that way. I hear you. And I appreciate the vigorous debate on this. There's clearly no clear answer on this. It's tough because at once we're saying we believe in meritocracy. Come to America.

Do a great job. Get yours. Do your hustle. But what we're also saying is hustle to good. Create too good of a network. Make too many friends. and chop your knees off. Well, in the beginning, the founding fathers really wanted to keep money out of it, and you couldn't spend your own money on politics. And then at some point, some – I don't remember who it was. Couldn't spend your own money on politics?

Yeah, you were very limited on what you could spend of your own fortune on it. And one guy was like, I want to take a train around the country and campaign, but I want to use my own money. Why can't I use my own money to pay for these train rides? And they're like, yeah, you're right. So they re-legislate. I've brought this story up a few times and I really should figure out the exacts on it.

But as far as I can tell, that's what happened. And then they changed the law partway in after the United States had already been around for a while so that you could start spending your own fortune. And of course, things like

Citizens United and things and unlimited, almost unlimited amounts of money that can now be spent. I was watching The Outer Limits. And there was... No, no, no, I'm sorry. can now be spent. I was watching The Outer Limits. No, no, no. I'm sorry. I wasn't watching.

I was watching Beyond Belief, Factor Fiction. That show's amazing. You ever watch that with Jonathan Frakes from the 90s? I have not. I just watched TV. You sure it wasn't the 80s? No. I just watched TV from the late 90s apparently.

Post Star Trek. This is Commander Riker, by the way. I'm watching this because Amazon recommended it because they apparently think I like late 90s shows, which I do. Get out of here. And there's an episode where it's about a deaf rock star, like an old rock musician who's losing his hearing. And he works in a shop. And I'm just watching this guy in the small brick-and-mortar guitar shop. And I'm thinking it would be extremely difficult for this guy to become a billionaire running a small town music

shop. Maybe after 10 years of a brick and mortar music shop, he might have saved up enough for a second location in another city. But there are some industries that just make it much more easy to move quickly, especially in digital information. You can grow fast, you can market fast, and you can succeed. I do think, you know, the right, you know, a kind of mentality and the right work ethic and you can make a national chain of, you know, guitar shops

or something like that. But I'm looking at this guy. He wakes up every day. He works really hard and he makes a few hundred bucks. His opinion is meaningless. His vote is nearly meaningless because one guy

who, you know, you know how Bill Gates made his money? He got the government to adopt MS-DOS. Well, first he kind of swiped DOS. Yeah, he bought it off a guy. He bought it off a guy and he paid him for it.

Then he went to IBM and said, I want a royalty on all these things. And because of that and because of the widespread adoption of a new technology and with an operating system, he got cash. And then he got – he developed the Windows operating system, which was great. And he got a bunch of money for it. And now the opinion of all these people who run brick and mortar computer shops doesn't matter anymore because he can just dump money in it so that their opinions don't matter in their political elections. He can make sure that when all of these politicians spend most of the time fundraising desperate

to get the ability to influence their votes and get their ideas out, you get lies, deception, duplicitous behavior, and billionaires backing it. And so what happens is you end up with rich people who are like, I'd rather get that one big contribution from Bill Gates than to speak to my constituents and ask them what they need. The internet has changed things. Populism came about because the internet allowed people to actually talk with their constituents on a grand scale and influence them without the need for these big special interest donors. They don't like it. They want it back. They're banning people because of it. And I'll be damned

if I have to live in a country where some billionaire can impose cult-like racist critical race theory over my schools and institutions, and my opinion won't matter. So I don't know what the solution is. Well, the term billionaire in the future is going to be like you have a billion people following you. That's going to be the future of the billionaire. Because the way inflation is going, especially, it's just a thought I had. Back to the Fed. You know, an hour ago, I was like, you sound like John Galt. Now I'm like, yo, I'm going Galt on this conversation.

Well, I'll tell you this. We get into it long enough. And then sooner or later, we're going to be talking about the millionaires and the fed and dictators and Rome and all mixed up in one oh you're speaking my love language

thank you Jack I love you Jack Murphy the problem with the influence and manipulation in politics I don't think is going to be a particularly easy thing to solve in any capacity. I know. Because just taxing the rich doesn't solve the problem.

No. Giving the government money doesn't solve the problem. And we might need a sweeping overhaul to how we handle our elections in general in a lot of ways, particularly voter ID and security and things like that. The problem is if you own an oil refinery, it would be saying you're not allowed to influence people, but if you own CNN, you are. And therein lies the big problem. You'd incentivize people to just buy media companies. That's what I was just going to say.

What if you come here, you make a billion dollars, you start a media company, and all of your programming is anti-2A? That's basically what it is. Do you support that or not? All day long, they're broadcasting anti-2A fiction shows, sitcoms. I think they're allowed to do it. And therein lies the real problem with the Citizens United ruling and the billionaires spending money on super PACs and things like that is that it's their free speech right to do it.

I don't know what the solution is. I don't. And maybe that's just the problem. I can point out a problem and I can't solve it. And you know what? Maybe we need to sit down and have a long conversation with a lot of people and try and map out how we make sure that some, you know, 40-year-old dad with two kids who had his job on the Keystone Pipeline and lost it because of the manipulation of the media

has his rights and his voice heard. Because you know what happens if you don't? You see that video where the guy is ranting to the city hall about the lockdowns, and he's like, you just wait and see what happens when we get sick and tired of this stuff. People eventually just say no. If their voice is not being respected and not being heard, eventually they just say no. And you know what? The rich people know this.

That's why, you know, they did this movement. We're like, we're going to give away all our wealth. And they set up nonprofits that they control and put their money in that, and they claimed they gave their money away. You have to aggressively participate in politics they don't it doesn't just come to you it's not just the bonus that you get in your side pocket whenever you have to go for it like back in athens you had to go to athens and sit there for days and be part of you had to leave your job it cost you money but the value outweighed and for a lot of people

the loss and it's the same today you need to spend hours online communicating if you want to influence and you don't have the money so the stakes are different now right i think it used to be perfectly rational to be ignorant about politics because the fact that the chance that you could the the calculus is like can you affect the outcome versus like the effect the outcome has on you right and the and the the the calculus was such that it was rational to be ignorant i kind of i'm getting the sense now that that it is it is irrational to remain ignorant because the consequences outweigh or have just grown so much that the the balance is now out of whack and yes we all need to take a much more active participation in politics but i have such sympathy for like

regular people dads and moms working 50 hours with a 45 minute commute on either end coming home trying to hustle up something onto the dinner table i know i have three kids i know what it's like hustle up something on the dinner table take you oh kids you got some homework to do oh my god it's freaking 9 30 bedtime and everybody's got to get up and out the door to school again the next day. Dude, the days in the weeks and the years they go by, they just melt. You only have two weeks of vacation. You get off Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

I mean, how can anyone be expected to participate in politics with the level of knowledge that it takes in order to be a rational player? Well, much less have influence. So what happens is at a certain point you have enough money where you never have to work again most people never reach that point exactly yes so maybe the fringe extreme minority who do should have some restriction maybe it's you can only donate to the in the elections in which you are a constituent maybe that's phase one i mean it always did bother me terribly so to hear about local elections, not even state.

Local elections where they fuel phone banks with people from out of state. Yep. And they are the ones calling people in this little local jurisdiction to try to get things done. That does seem disproportionate. I'm not going to say it's wrong, because we have our rights to free speech and private property in America. Did you know that AOC, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, the squad members, overwhelmingly received their donations from outside their districts?

At least they did in 2018. I think maybe it was Rashida Tlaib who was like the outlier, actually. But I believe AOC received relatively few donations from her own district. And then with that, she's able to win in that district because she can run ads and commercials. And of course these people aren't honest. None of them are, Republican or Democrat. They do the same thing. So if we're not having legitimate elections where regular people are other at you know in city hall or on social media and instead commercials are being flooded on their tvs from

progressive billionaires then are they really being represented as they you know no it's just it's just not reality you know we talked about something interesting where we had cassandra on the show and she said these people at these in these schools in like virginia will hear a school board member say hey i want to get more buses for your kids. So they vote for it. And then as soon as those people get in, they reveal that they're Black Lives Matter critical race theorists or whatever. And their full agenda is to teach the 1619 Project. And I'm like – I think you mentioned elections based on an individual's presentation of a smart contract.

Here are the things that I propose. Will you vote for me to implement these things and nothing outside of them? Have a full policy position proposal. So I was like, maybe if someone deviates from what they proposed, you will get you kitchen table issues health care the economy i will fight for you and everyone said please finally and so they did and instead of doing that they said i don't know whatever pelosi says she wants to impeach trump yeah i actually saw literally vote for smart contracts instead of politicians like just do away with the politicians let's represent ourselves with smart contracts that we yay or nay on they'll implement immediately if they get the politicians but they get corrupted especially by money the point i'm saying is they'll present to you like here's a list of all the things i want to do and here's a list of the things i oppose in office i will fight specifically for these things and so

that gives them a lot of leeway they can be like well look i'm opposing this by by doing this thing but it would have some restrictions if they say they oppose something they have to oppose it but then what if something new well i guess i say what if something novel comes up okay that could be step two but i like this yeah that way when people are like i'm gonna fight for for health care and reform when they get in if they say okay i'm not doing that anymore you can be like and that's that's tricky with like earmarks and bills that get things attached because if they support 99% of something and then something goes in that violates their smart contract, they can't vote on it. But say a smart contract that totally restricts a politician's behavior is analogous to direct democracy. Not totally.

Not totally. Right. That's why I'm saying they would have a lot of leeway to justify their positions so long as they're fighting in a specific way. And this argument actually just raised a very interesting example in my mind that if an, if a politician bound by a smart contract based on a vote is analogous to direct democracy, then not having the smart contract is basically saying that we need to give our politicians leeway to do what we don't want them to do.

I'm not following. What we're saying is we're revealing the fact that our system enables politicians to behave in a way opposite to the way we intended them to. That is 100% true. They're not actively representatives. They're not representing properly. So we need a system that does. Now, we don't need people to be there.

We can have points of access where we can all vote for this point of access to serve a function. And that can be a smart smart contract so you don't need the representatives we still have lawmakers that write laws and stuff the citizens could do that as well did you said you weren't a populist did you see that uh there was wasn't there an event where one of the coke brothers and george soros did this thing together on hate speech i couldn't tell you there was like some event where it was like wow look at look at that. They're coming together. Because when Donald Trump won as a populist fighting for the working class, the billionaires and the millionaires, not all of them, but many of them were like, we're Democrats now. And Vox.com reported the Democratic Party has become the party of the wealthy elites. So I look at who's dumping all this money in and very little of it comes from white right right wing billionaires and it's just the craziest thing to me that the people who like for one it's funny that the left

the liberals who are supposed to be in favor of regulating corporations are saying about my private business but that makes sense they're winning politically but then you have people on the right you know people at reason for instance the libertarian magazine who are like private companies should be able to do what they want anyway all right let's go to super chats because we pushed a little bit if you haven't already smash the like button go to timcast.com become a member hear us argue a lot more over at timcast.com and uh share the show if you really do like it because it helps tremendously and if you're listening on itunes or spotify leave us a good review we are now going to read comments from you jack murphy live youtube hit sub on i

just want to say this has been very fun, you guys. Oh, yeah. It's the fams back together. Love it. Alright, we got Enlightened Worm. He says, I'm a listener from early 2020 and a resident of San Diego. Children that illegally crossed into the U.S. are being given in-person classes while San Diegan children are still

atrophying in Zoom classes. And this is enabled by the millionaires and the billionaires in this country. No And this is enabled by the millionaires and the billionaires in this country. No, it's enabled by the constitutional ruling that says that the students have to be served if they show up at the front door of the school, period. So the students who are going on Zoom are just choosing not to go to school? I mean, they opened up a policy in every jurisdictions I've looked at it. There's a lottery, there's application, and usually, actually, they have trouble filling the seats in some jurisdictions. but illegal immigrants get served at the door at the door of the schoolhouse is as soon as they show up

because they can't ask yeah all right matthew hammond says would timcast irl receive a strike if trump was a guest or would the video just be taken down like alex jones by the way jack murphy is awesome i was gonna say hey matt hammond so just if we had Trump on the show, YouTube would not give us a strike. However, knowing what Donald Trump would say, we would be outright banned, most likely. No, we'd get a strike. I was feeling that, too. If we interviewed Trump, I know for a fact he would start saying a bunch of things that would get us. He'd use this show.

He would. He'd trash this show to get ahead. No, no, no, no, no. He's an opportunist. No, absolutely not. Oh, I disagree. Trump would say what he's always said

and express his opinion as he's always stated them and that would get us banned. He doesn't care about the networks he's on. I am literally not saying that. Oh, I am. Yeah, okay.

Now, to make my point, Donald Trump would be asked a question, he would calmly and reasonably answer it, and that opinion is banned on YouTube. The opinion is wrong.

Interesting. The voice is wrong. Interesting. The voice is wrong. Ryan Malone says, Tim, do you believe that there is going to be a mass exodus from Minneapolis in the coming weeks? What do you think is going to be the city's response? I don't know if there will be a mass exodus, but if you're in Minneapolis,

wow, you're brave. You're real brave. There's not going to be an outcome to this that results in not riots. I just can't see it. By the way, is there a murder three charge in Minneapolis? Didn't you mention that before? They brought that back against Chauvin. So they're using murder three as well as a charge?

Yeah. Which I still don't see likely. If he's present and not responsible for the death, his actions contributed to it what if he was considered to be reasonably negligent in in some kind of force against another person that resulted in their death like second degree murder as you intended to hurt them and then they died first degree is like you wanted to kill him and third degree is you were you know he was in your custody you were taking action against him using force he died there was no intent to cause harm or whatever but you did kill him uh actually that might be manslaughter but uh i think they added that because they're hoping they can get

something but listen anything short of murder one and they're going to burn the city down and he wasn't charged with murder one so i was thinking on my web here maybe i should go to minneapolis get some footage just to witness and then i started thinking also i got a text from one of my sources mpd dc mpd today and he's like we're gearing up for another hot summer yeah it's just you know the weather the weather is changing man yeah and crime in dc has been so high through the winter now that the summer's coming it's gonna just go even through the roof we're back to 19 early 1990s murder rates in dc if you thought 2020 was bad right i mean 2020 part two here comes the never-ending year 2025 baby again decade it's so i've been covering unrest for a

decade and what happens is people don't go outside when it rains and they certainly don't go outside when it's cold yeah so once it gets warm this stuff lights lights up. All night. Crazier and crazier. Yeah, all night. There's more daylight. People are more active. They're more energized. Burning man all year, baby. And they go out.

All summer. All right. Roberto Lara says, follow up from yesterday. If any political party wants 16-year-olds to vote, then also give them the right to own their firearms to prove they're responsible. BMO from Adventure Time. Season 7, Episode 17, Angel Face owns a rifle. His response? I'm old enough to vote. Really? to prove they're responsible bmo bmo from adventure time season 7 episode 17 angel face owns a rifle his response i'm old enough to vote really did bmo say that that's kind of funny we had a long conversation about that before the show i think talking about younger people and how

people are growing up faster with access to the internet i don't think we even touched on that well on air yeah but at the same time adolescence is extended immaturity is longer i feel like the nation is getting less mature by the day more intelligent less less mature all right getting more well that access to information that doesn't make you smart all right chris rower says fight you if you want to beat big tech then buy their stock with voting rights then you can vote out their bods and replace them with a board that will put an end to their antics the game stop revolution proves that with enough people, you can beat big tech. Sounds like a libertarian entered the chat.

There you go. Cannon Baller says new member here. A little off topic, but I think you have Bitcoin. Do you invest in other crypto? Thanks for all you and your team does. The only crypto I'm interested in is Ethereum and Bitcoin. There's I have a bunch of other cryptos randomly that I don't remember how or why, but they're there. But Ethereum is amazing revolutionary tech. Bitcoin is the first in best dressed store of digital value. And there's a whole bunch of

ERC-20 tokens and ish coins that are like, I don't know. I'm pretty liberal with my purchases. You can read their white papers. If you want to go to any specific crypto, look for their white paper and read it. And you can get the ethos of the creation of the token. That gives you a lot of ideas about which ones to follow for the long term. What's your allocation, Bitcoin, Ethereum? It's like 85% Ethereum, 14% Bitcoin, 1% else. Ethereum doubled. Wow.

I'm 50-50. Maybe I'm up in the Ethereum allocation. Ethereum is the smart, crazy new tech. They saw Bitcoin and they're like, dude. And then they improved upon it greatly. So a lot of these websites that offer up tokens, it's built off of Ethereum technology. Brilliant. Steven Decker says, have Steven Crowder on the Timcast and Dave Landau too.

Okay, great. Steven, come on the show. We'd love to have you. Dave, come on the show. We'd love to have you. Dave, come with him. Christopher Knoll says, Jack is pre-LSD and post-steroids vermin supreme. All right.

These things I don't know. Are you familiar with vermin's work? No. He runs for president occasionally. He has a boot on his head and his position is a pony-based economy. Everyone has to brush their teeth.

Everyone has to brush their teeth and he would solve the energy crisis by powering the country with zombies on treadmills because zombies just keep going yeah right exactly he says also why are the greens the only third party alternative for us lib lefts peace and prosperity yeah and and it's just they're all woke like is there like a libertarian left like not woke party that's just they're all woke. Like, is there like a libertarian left, like not woke party that's just basically one of wants to like chill outside on the porch with like chickens running around, but just like share the tomatoes from the garden, not sell them. It's just not not tenable. We need aggressive politicians.

I don't think I think I don't think libertarian left scales up to a form of government. I just don't see it. There's just no way you do it. It's like libertarian, a libertarian. If the entire country of the US was libertarian left, some guy would walk in and just violate the rights of an individual or start building things around a certain area. And you'd be like, hey, man, can you please not do that? And he'd be like, I'm going to do it anyway. And you'd be like, well, he doesn't agree with us.

What do we do? And then the lib right guy walks in and goes, I've got a big old pile of gold. Please stop. And the guy goes, deal, and then leaves. He sells the land to him. Because it's very difficult for Lib Lefts. You have to get cooperation. And if you go to somebody who's building something you don't like, because it's like maybe going to block the sun or harm, you know, your crops or something, what are you going to do to convince them to agree with you? If it doesn't benefit them, he's going to say, no, I don't need what you have, and I don't agree,

and I'm not part of your community, and you can't use force against me. The lib right people have money. The lib left people just try and get you to agree. So are you in favor of property zoning, land use restrictions? Would you be upset if somebody bought the property in front of you and built a 3,000-foot skyscraper here or a nuclear power plant? No, probably not. You wouldn't be upset by that? I don't think so.

Oh, it's horrible. When people start construction next door to you, it's the worst. Yeah, but what if someone were to install a chemical plant right in your front yard, in the lots right up here? It just depends on which chemicals it is, and there would have to be, I believe, environmental regulations. Yeah. So it's like if it was-

You don't think that they should be like, here's where we put the houses and over here is where we put the industry? I think that makes sense. I'm just saying I don't think I would be bent out of shape. I mean, we got a lot of property here, so it would be kind of far away. Right. I know, but I was just thinking conceptually. It could still impact the water.

It could still impact a lot of things. So I do think zoning makes sense. That's why I think at the end of it it i become mostly just a regular old liberal because i'm like you need to have these arrangements and some people don't agree but you have to enforce them so there has to be some authority although i'm mostly still in the you know liberal libertarian left quadrant all right let's see we got we got too many super chits jmax says there are no bad tactics only bad targets look for those that have no principles and never take your eyes off of them let's see grant saigan says my brother brent site uh brent saigan you and your cronies have been bullying me to become a member it finally worked grant

grant we found a job dude it finally worked I know you do this show for my respect. That's right. But can now do it for my money, too. Healing begins by bullying one another over minutia. Never hang up the meeting. Correct. I love that this has come full circle and we got to go through all. So for those unfamiliar, Brent was posting in Super Chats like, tell my brother Grant he must sign up. And so we were yelling at him and then he Super Chatted.

So it's all fun. Boom. Grant and Brent. Yes. Grant and Brett. Yes. Brent. Sorry. Luke T says, thanks for everything you do. You guys do at Tim cast.

I love Colonel West. Daniel Turner. Always love Jack as a guest. Keep up the great work. Y'all are making a difference. Thank you. I mean, we're just having conversations. And I think, you know, for a lot of people, it's a good conversation.

And we're trying to work out these ideas. So, you know. Appreciate it. Charlie says, Charles Thompson, letter to Ben Franklin, 1774. We are on a precipice. And then two years later, they were like, let's sign it, baby. All right, we got another from J-Mac. He says, I was told by an executive at a large banking brand that they have the moral right to cease business with anyone for any stated reason or non-stated reason.

We have ceded too much of our lives to the machine, to corporations, and to the government. We've bartered self-governance for convenience. Yep. Tim Freeburn says, I'd love to see Jack Murphy defend the argument libertarianism is dead in the internet age with Dave Smith. How about we have Dave Smith come on and we can have a debate. Let's do it. Debate. He's great. Just let Twitter do its thing, y'all. Yeah. We've had Dave Smith. How about we have Dave Smith come on and we can have a debate. Let's do it. Debate. He's great. Just let Twitter do its thing, y'all.

Yeah. We've had Dave Smith on before. Dr. Doctor says there are two types of people in this world. Those who run away from a fire and those who run towards the fire to put it out. People need to be honest with themselves about what kind of person they are because no one wants a flaky hero. Be the person people need, not want.

It's like a Batman thing, isn't it? Mark Dixon, thank you for the super chat. Man, we got a bunch of massive super chats. What is it, payday? Wow. Joe Hawk says, Tim, you misunderstand laissez-faire capitalism. The mainstream media is corrupt. Is the answer having government regulate news media? Or is the answer creating cool and interesting content with integrity that creates culture? your solution is laissez-faire capitalism it's just not absolute you know laissez-faire is basically what is that like no holds barred capitalism essentially hands off i don't agree with that i think there do have to be some regulations but perhaps not on media perhaps people need to be able to build and

develop culture but when i say you know when i'm talking about laissez-faire capitalism i'm meaning like maybe people shouldn't dump you know sewage into our drinking water you know what i mean tim you're not even in favor of personal property rights so you're not much in favor of laws rich guys can't spend their money how they want you said that i didn't say that would you like build a skyscraper next door no to help people run political campaigns or buy tv okay that's that's an abby, that's an abrogation. Can people buy drugs? That's an abrogation.

Do you think people should be able to buy Abrams tanks for themselves and drive around in them? I mean, I am pretty shall not infringe. So let's see. Do you think that a guy- I didn't say that I was. I just was talking about your context. Earlier, we were talking about abridging personal property rights by limiting the way billionaires can spend their money. You said I don't support personal property rights simply because I said I don't think billionaires should influence elections

that would strip the voice of the working class. It's very different from saying, eat the rich and seize all of their wealth and then buy boats with it or something. No, I think Bill Gates should be able to have his mega yacht and fly around the world in his helicopters. And I think he shouldn't be dumping money into elections to ban my guns from me because I need them. And all the leftists are like, you don't need guns. What if 30 to 50 feral hogs storm onto my property? All I'm arguing here is this person's assertion

was that you're a laissez-faire economics type. And I'm saying, no, we've clearly established that we can decide what people can do with their money yeah i think uh i've always maintained that i was like fairly center left and it's funny because what happens is the grifters on on twitter they're not going to make any money if they post a video of me fervently defending getting the billionaires out of the political system they're not going to show that one they won't they won't they're going to show the one like you know about me saying like people should have the right to bear arms and then these leftists on twitter who don't watch the show are going to be like tim pool's a right-wing nut job and i'm literally like tax the rich yeah i

mean he's the endowments you're basically a commie that's my takeaway from today i joke that all the time yeah i know i know i know but there's so much more work to be done here, Ian. The issue is... Communication. The issue is realism. What is the idea... That's a good political party, the realist party. It literally took a billionaire to run to get a populist in office. He had to be a billionaire to do it.

And he had all this money, and he borrowed some money, and he knew how to play the media. How would a regular person who wants to fight for the people beat all of these far left? Like, come on, dude. Mark Cuban defending China. That's the guy who is stripping away your voice when he floods your market with political ads to support banning gun rights and sending your jobs to China. So there's a problem there. You know, I look to talk about about solutions, but you know, definitely. All right.

Mark Dixon says, hello, Tim. I am the former president of Whole Foods Market. Wow. Just discovered you and Jack is just discovered you and Jack is demand. Keep up the great work, my brothers. Cool. Very cool. Sounds fun working for Whole Foods, huh?

The president of Whole Foods Market. Former president of Whole Foods Market. Cool gig. Marcus Carter says we're getting rid of career politicians at shortingdc.org. Oh, interesting. Oh, yeah. There you go. Someone retracted a big super chat.

Appreciate that. But Mark Andrews says, first they came for the socialists. Then they came for the trade unionists. Then they came for the Jews. Then they came for me. Famous poem. Yep. Corey Johan says, Tim and especially Ianan i recommend checking out the book snow crash by neil stevenson it's a good

one really oh you haven't read that no oh dude you got read it tomorrow morning it's about 280 pages i think is it literally about people i'm sorry that was my dad joke just coming out uh it's about memes it's about memes. It's about virtual reality. It's about this contagious spread of ideas, mimetic contagion. It's about cloistered homes and suburban enclaves

with their own military and own police forces. It's very interesting. It's very prescient. I believe it's from the late 80s or early 90s. I don't know. I get them both confused here.

All right. Rick Ortiz says, please get Crowder, Landau, and Hodge sisters on. That way you can kick out Ian. Rip Luke. That's fighting worse. Well, you know, if you have three guests on, I do step out. I mean, if Crowder, Landau, and the Hodge twins were going to come on the show, I'd happily take the light off.

We don't got a lot of cameras. I don't even think we have enough cameras for all of them as it is. I'll leave a super chat. But I mean, dude, if all of those individuals were like, Tim, we're coming on your show, I'd be like, clear the schedule. Yeah, let's do it. We have to figure something out. All right, let's see.

Sage Stiltner? Yeah. BLM belt loops matter. Okay. What does that mean? I don't no that was a uh subliminal message yeah i can't believe you ever read snow i love this i love this tom well seven um crew i guess tom crew says tim is john galt luke is ragnar dennis galt dennis yold malice is francisco danconia jack is h Hank Reardon. Peterson is Hugh Axton. I'm pretty sure after all of that ranting, I just said I am not John Galt. I don't think so.

No, definitely not. Hank Reardon. Reardon Steele. Matt L. says, Tim believes in blank slate theory. No, I just think that there's kind of a mix of nature and nurture. Yeah. And I think, you know, anybody who's trying to argue one or the other is missing big pieces of the picture. Yeah, that's backed up by genetics, too. Yeah. And I think, you know, anybody who's trying to argue one or the other is missing big pieces of the picture. Yeah, that's backed up

by genetics, too. Yeah. All right. Lateral and horizontal gene translation. Shane Drewley says, Hey, Tim, I'm thinking of running for Congress

in Michigan as a libertarian. Any tips on how to get my name out there? And if I get the nomination, what do I have to do to get on the show? I don't know, and I don't know.

I just don't know. I'm not a fan of, you know, I have donated to people whose districts I don't live in. And I've addressed it on the show specifically as it sucks. I don't like the idea. But what do we do? You know what I mean? So it's kind of like Ron Paul. He ran, how many terms did Ron Paul serve?

Like 11 or something, some ridiculous number of terms. And he was like, we got to put term limits on Congress. on congress and they would say yeah but you've served all these terms and he's like great once i get this done i'm out yeah i'm like that's kind of how i feel about it but i probably won't be donating to people in any capacity it was like it was around the time i was thinking about aoc and how she was winning and i was donating some people and i talked about on one of the segments i'm like i probably don't i don't like the idea of doing that i probably won't do it again this brings back that definition of billionaire being having a billion followers you could make a video and say this person is a better politician 500 000 views that's more valuable than 100 million maybe not 100 a

million 500 000 views from you earned media on youtube is a thing billionaires will pay you millions of dollars to say that kind of thing. So we're at a very weird point. It's actually much more nefarious than that. They don't even need to do that. What the billionaires do is they'll hire people who already believe what they want said. They're not paying them to say it. They're like, hey, I saw that really great article you wrote. Would you like a job?

That way they make sure you can keep doing it and keep pumping out that influence. It's a dirty game. But it's also just kind of the way the system works popularity it's very difficult uh to navigate popularity contest i just like i guess it's utopian of me to believe in this vision of a world where the working class are equally represented and honestly represented and an honest media is informing them of their rights and what's happening in the world so they can make the appropriate decisions instead what we get are industrial, corporatists masquerading as conservatives to trick people into giving their rights to them.

And that was what we had a couple decades ago. And now we're in the era of the moral authoritarian cultists in the Democratic Party who lie to people and claim that everyone else is racist so that they give up their power to them as well. And that's the way the political system works. I think what we're trying to square here is you want to give the middle class opportunity to change their status. You want a meritocracy, but like maybe not so much. I kind of just want like if there's 10 people and six of them all agree, like, listen, we had a conversation about the gun thing. We think everyone should be allowed to keep their guns.

And if you don't like it, I'm sorry. That's just the way we're going to be running things. That makes sense. Instead, what we get is there's 10 people and there's a debate going on about guns and then some billionaire drops this mega movie production commercial where it's like did you know that everyone who's ever owned a gun has died well sometimes guns are evil you have 10 people five of them are like we need to blow up the buildings we need to get rid of this stuff and then the other two are like yeah i guess you guys are right and one of them are like, we need to blow up the buildings. We need to get rid of this stuff. And then the other two are like, yeah, I guess you guys are right.

And one of them is like, listen, I've done the math. I'm the one that's feeding you the corn that I'm growing with the structure that I built. I think this. And he's the only one that thinks it. But he's the one that's feeding people. So they do what he thinks. And they survive as a result. Didn't you guys ever see that episode of Family Guy?

Where the Y2K happens. And then Peter brings them to, what and then peter brings them to um what's that he brings them to some city in rhode island where they have a twinkie factory they build a city right and then peter instructs all the people because he's in charge to melt down their plumbing to make guns and they do because somehow they can make all of these working parts from just crude piping but sure and then when the city finds out that peter did this they throw him out and burn all the guns and then the mutant Stewies take over

and kill everybody. See, they should have kept the guns. That's the kind of propaganda the 2A people need. I'm kidding. Mutant Stewies running on treadmills. The problem is the liars and the manipulation. And when you have one person who is not smarter than anybody

else, maybe. maybe they are smarter, maybe they worked harder. But I think when you have 100 people who live in this rural community and then you get some dude from New York who's never let who made all his money off stocks and everything. And he's like, I think these people shouldn't have guns and I'm going to use all of my money to make sure that they are manipulated into voting away their rights. I'm like, I kind of got a problem with that. Anyway, Dom Fillory says, I work hard and I love what I do.

Media production. I turn down jobs from people who perpetuate false narratives. I sent a few emails to you guys, but they must be under the thousands you receive. Would love to work. DomFillory.com hosts my reel. I appreciate it. We'll check it out. We do have much too many emails.

All right, let's see what we got. Hapa-san says, when a generation of kids receive participation trophies and are never disciplined when wrong, they will grow into adults that demand to be given handouts or equity or will vote in representatives for it. Great talk, everybody. Absolutely. and duka osai says as an as a nigerian immigrant there are several things wrong with the african american community uh i'm sorry he says there are several things wrong with the african american community is lack of parental involvement and lack of community p.s they lived better under jim crow law is so sad well i'll tell you this i can't speak to it because i did not live under jim crow my family did live under these miscegenation laws and other racist laws that pre civil rights. As for Nigerian immigrant, I can only assume that you know way better than I do. And I'll defer to your opinion. Well played, Tim. No, but you realize the narrative. I've talked about this. The narrative from Black Lives Matter is that they agree with what Nduka said. When I was covering the Ferguson riots, there was a letter being circulated

that talked about how the end of segregation was a trick by the white man to force the black community into the white community where they would always be underneath the historical generational wealth of the white man. That is literally the critical race theory.

That is literally the narrative of these anti-racists. That's why they want segregation. They want to have their own space. I think that's wrong. I understand the argument, segregation. They want to have their own space. I think that's wrong. I understand the argument, though. So certainly other people are saying it. Path of Resilience says Bill Gates stole tech from Apple. Actually, as I think it goes, they stole tech. They may have. But I know that everybody copied off of Xerox. I think Xerox

invented the mouse. And there's like this famous movie I guess everyone loves talking about. It's called The Pirates of Silicon Valley, where I guess Apple copied the mouse and then made the mouse for the Apple with the graphical user interface. It was easier to move and control things. And then Bill Gates did it and then got – I think Windows did it first or something. And Steve Jobs, like Bill Gates was yelling at him. Watch the movie. You'll see it. And he's like, you stole our idea.

What is this? And he goes, actually, the way I see it is you and I both had a neighbor named Xerox, and you broke in to steal the mouse and figured out I stole it already. Yeah, something like that. Steve Jobs did it first. Apple did it first. Shoddy Vice says, I work hard at $20 an hour, and I'm ending up this pay period 10 some odd hours over time. I grew up in poverty, so working hard lets me buy what I want when I want to.

I don't because I'm saving for when I have kids, so they won't grow up how I did. Very good. Well done. Nice. Continue to instill strong work ethic. Next. Next. Oh, next Hendrix.

I was like, next Thendrix. Oh, next Hendrix says, Tim, I'm a professional guitar teacher and a very good one. Your music is great and I'd love to hear more of it. I'd also like to offer you guys some free lessons to support the cause and to take your playing and songwriting to the next level. Maybe, perhaps. I did just lay down some vocal tracks on the next song, Words in a Book, which is like, it was really hard to sing.

And I'm like, I don't know if i can do this because i talk all day and so i'm like and then i skate and i'm dehydrated and tired and i'm trying to sing now i'm trying to do too much in one day but i think we got it and i think this song is really good and y'all have probably heard it before if you remember the old friday night jam session so yeah check it out uh-oh potato masher says jack is a closeted elitist. He was mega sus when he made that comment about girls when they are 18. IDK, what's his vibe? Here's your 20. Oh.

Mega sus about what? About girls who are 18 years old being like basically physically mature women? I got no problem. I'll restate that one. No sweat. All right. We'll do a couple more. I'm trying to find.

There's a big jump in super chats i want to find the one where people are yelling at me saying that i'm a libtard for talking about uh taxing the rich or whatever but i guess it's not not not really that you know a whole lot of people who are but no people that said that you were thought of brendan curry here we go jack and tim are both correct but neither can find the line the line is freedom of speech example mark zuckerberg has crossed it he has used his money to restrict speech crime needs punishment tax him interesting yeah there you go it's tough um when a billionaire buys an ad on youtube and they say i'm willing to spend a dollar every time this ad is viewed

then there's no way you or i is going to get a commercial to counter that because their bid is too high. I can't afford a dollar a view. That's crazy, but they can. And they're going to laugh about it all the way to the bank. So then even if you put your ad on Google and you say, I'm willing to spend five cents per view, they're going to be like, well, we're never going to run this ad

because you're just outclassed. Sorry, buddy. It's the name of the game. So cap the amount of money people can spend on ads i don't know um i think a good start is don't donate to elections in which you are not a constituent which would mean the billionaires could still affect federal uh um presidential elections but they wouldn't be able to impact congressional elections because if you live in california you ain't giving money to AOC. You know what I mean?

Benjamin Rhodes says, y'all need to talk to Michael Malice again. Anarchy is the solution. Taxes and regulation can't fix anything. No government equals no bad government. Yeah, I know, but we watched the Cuyahoga River burst into flames one time. In fact, I'm from Cuyahoga Falls,

and my father watched it with his own eyes. Wow. Crazy, right? A river on fire. A flames. It's like, what? Too much, what was that? I don't even know.

Feces or chemicals a bunch of factories were dumping little bits in saying it's not my fault i only did a little bit it's like you realize all of you doing it made this river start on fire akron is like the rubber capital of the world where good year was and after world war ii they're making all this rubber rubber rubber so much pollution and that's yeah here we go actually it seems like most people enjoy the conversation we were having woodworker anon says tim and jack you seem to agree meritocracy but not tyranny make as much money as you want buy whatever you want just not control over others our votes are all equal because all lives matter oh ian and the fed oh ian and the

fed bro do you see someone suing the fed i'm'm going to get the guy's name. Support this guy. Yeah, it seems like there's a lot of people saying something similar that, you know. All right. Richard Cranium says, Tim, you and Jack have a problem. I'll solve it. Check out the hook while my DJ resolves it. For real, though. Thanks to Tim and crew for all you do.

There you go. Nice. Brony Ninja says, can I get a shout out for desolator magic my favorite channel that rants about magic the gathering which with as much fervor as y'all do about the left we did have a rant about magic the gathering last week we could have many many more yeah because so uh it's it's a card game it's a strategy game i'm sure you're familiar only because i've come up here you'll appreciate what i'm going to say. Wokeness has come into the game. And what's happened is they're trying to attract

the lowest common denominator participation trophy players. So they're removing skill from the game and making everything ridiculous. OP cards. Right. It's not fun to play anymore for people who want to challenge.

But if you're somebody who doesn't want competition and doesn't want to challenge and you want to look at pretty angels well i guess non-binary angels or whatever then you will play and be like i'm gonna play the 2020 for three manas and then they're gonna be like i'm gonna play my 2020 you win oh gee can't you just not incorporate these new cards into the game you can you play older formats it you yeah there's older formats but then it gets really ridiculous when like we try we're we play Commander for the most part.

It's a format that incorporates almost every set, and there's a ban list of things that are ridiculous, but there's just still too many insane... Yeah, we had to make a special house ban list because I would play Armageddon, which would destroy everyone's land, which is your way of using... And they all want to quit.

Adam and Tim are like, I'm done with you. But that's an old card. Basically what happened is there's some new cards where it's like, what did you play? All right. And they would scoop our cards and put them away because it's like, I'm done with you. But that's an old card. Basically what happened is there's some new cards where it's like, what did you play? And they scoop our cards and put them away because it's like, listen, here's the way I explain it. If I've only got an hour every

day for recreation, and I'm either going to exercise my body or my mind, I don't want to sit at a table where I literally do nothing for an hour. I'd rather just play a strategy game on my computer than sit here with some ridiculous nonsense card that breaks the game. It feels like you're rolling dice. Because if he gets the Mana Crypt on turn one, it's basically game over for me.

I've got a 7% chance of winning. There's just ridiculous. But the video. Also, old card, though. Old card. Yeah, but a $200 card. The clip we did had almost as many views as the show. It's so popular.

It's such a market. 300,000 views on this clip when we talked about it. We should do a gaming channel. one of our biggest segments ever i mean if you want to make real money on youtube apparently you should just open up boxes to gifts or like things like minecraft videos yeah all right ricardo gomez says first ever super chat love what your team is doing have you considered bringing in gothics i think you'd have an interesting conversation not familiar with gothics hey i wanted to shout out ge Gammon, who's suing the Federal Reserve. He made a YouTube video about it, and I advise everyone to go check it out.

Man, we got too many super chats. Yikes. Yes. All right. I'll read just two more because they're pretty big ones. Charlie says, LOL, yes, Tim. Two years later, they signed the thing. And then 250 years later, the great Tim came along to leave his great words to all of us.

Thank you, Tim, for the scoff and your kind words. I know. I was trying to make a joke about it. The thing. Design the thing. Some people did something. You know what I mean? And here we are.

Here we are. It's just yada, yada, yada. Did you yada, yada, yada revolution? Yeah, maybe. James Moaning says, apologies on the retraction. I didn't want to give bad facts. I live in downtown Minneapolis. The trial today was big. Will Chamberlain had a good breakdown you and jack lids are great

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