Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #256 - State's Key Witness Exposed As DEALER In Chauvin Trial, FLEES Trial w/Michael Malice

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host friend, author, and fellow podcaster Michael Malice to discuss George Floyd's death and the characters involved in the trial of the accused officer, gun control and the Haymarket massacre, YouTube censorship, and Marjorie Taylor Green's ideas about the vaccine.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In possibly the most shocking thing out of the Derek Chauvin trial in Minneapolis so far, George Floyd's girlfriend told the court as she was being questioned by the defense that this one of the state's key witnesses, a guy named a guy named Maurice Lester Hall, was George Floyd and her dealer. And he was supposed to be testifying as one of the key witnesses for the state. Abruptly, apparently just the day before, this guy shocked the court by saying he wasn't going to testify. He wasn't going to be a witness. In fact, he's pleading the fifth. And this is just one big factor in the defense that we've seen so far that really makes it seem like, my friends, this is going to be, well, I'll put it this way. If there is a reasonable jury that's following the evidence the same way I am, as I'm watching the court, same as them and hearing a lot of the same evidence, boy, it sure does sound at the very least like reasonable doubt across the board. I don't even think manslaughter can stick. I really don't. You've got, we're going to get into this story, but there's just so much to break down.

A few months prior to this incident, Georgeyd had od'd and gone to the hospital complaining of the exact same symptoms video showing george floyd saying i can't breathe before he was even restrained i think the jury is going to see reasonable doubt unless politics gets in the way so we're going to talk about all this stuff and joining us today is none other than michael malice thank you for having me tim you get shouted out too much on this show, so we were like, just tell him to come over. Red Rover, Red Rover, Big Malice, right over. Say his name too many times when he's here in my house.

I'm like Beetlejuice and Candyman. Yeah, it's great. Bees, bees, bees. All right. And Ian's here. I'm so glad you're here, Michael. Yes, and I'm sporting our new I Am A Gorilla Diamond Hands t-shirt.

Let me see if I can get this in the frame there we go perfect the gorilla is back and he's made a lot of money indeed well because he knew

not to sell his stonks too soon he had diamond hands but I suppose like you're not supposed to sell ever I guess he waited till it got to the moon

and then sold or something I don't know the joke it's a gorilla with money buy the shirt timcast.com slash shop and you can get yours we've actually sold a ton of these people love the shirt. Timcast.com slash shop and you can get yours.

We've actually sold a ton of these. People love the Wall Street gorilla thing. He's very charming. He is, yeah. He's super. That's right. Nice smile. And he knows the truth about Building 7. Is that it?

He's in New York. All right, Michael. Well, that's what that's a reference to. What? I'm a gorilla. No, it isn't. It was the Ishmael book. Yeah, but that was Alex Jones saying it on this show. Oh, I get it. I get it. I get what you're saying. Right, right, right. He was the I and I'm a gorilla. No, it isn't. It was the Ishmael book. Yeah, but that was Alex Jones saying it on this show.

Oh, I get it. I get it. I get what you're saying. Right, right, right, right. He was the I and I'm a gorilla. The secret is the original – I don't know if I should say this. The original drawing was proposed as Alex Jones saying it, and I said we can't do that because that's Alex Jones. Like his likeness, his business, we can't –

Oh, that's true, yeah. It has to be an actual gorilla. But the original proposal that I got was like, so should we make an Alex Jones. His likeness, his business, we can't... Oh, that's true, yeah....has to be an actual gorilla. But the original proposal that I got was like, so should we make an Alex Jones saying? I was like, no, we can't do that. It was, you know, hey, it's actually just a gorilla now.

There you go. We got Lydia. I am also in the corner. Me and Michael always get up to no good when he's here. We have a lot of fun. You were texting Lydia during one of our episodes.

Getting her to shout you out. She didn't shout me out. My good friend, Ethan Suppley, who I am shouting out, who I adore, he was on My Pals With You, and I thought it'd be funny if she asked, what do you guys like best about Michael Ballas? And you all had easy answers. I'm very

likable. That's right. The most likable. My friends, we're going to get serious. And before we do, go to TimCast.com and become a member because you will get access to exclusive members only segments. We are very, very close to rolling out the brand new website. I got to tell you, it looks amazing. This company that's putting stuff together. It's like it's actually fancy looking.

And I'm actually I actually just went over a treatment this is like basically the the elevator pitch for a tv series which we might actually produce because we're going to get into the business of making culture and making shows and just being regular people that make fun things and get away from the weird culty woke stuff so go to timguest.com become a member we got a bunch of special bonus segments but it really does help in the events that in the event we get banned or whatever this is where we'll have all of our content and we got a lot more to come so we're on the vlog the chickens, and we've got a lot more to come. So we're going to have the vlog. The chickens are doing their chicken stuff. We're going to make chicken cam. We're going to put a live camera in the chicken city

so that people can just tune in for no reason, just watch the chickens. So cute. I thought it would be hilarious. They're the best. But they have that kitten cam. They've had goat cam, aquarium cam. It's relaxing.

It's like ASMR, right? You'll get to watch the chickens drink the water, turn around, take a dump right in their water dish, and then start drinking from it again. It's brilliant stuff watching chickens every day. I swear to God. How do they drink? They have to put a mouthful in their mouth? Yeah, they bite the water a little bit, nibble it, and then they flip their heads

back. And then one of them will stand up and pull its wings out and then just dump right in the water and then turn around and start drinking again. Right in the same spot. It's amazing how these things survived as long as they did. Well, what about no okay i'm gonna get all animal here okay uh gorillas i i worked on a book called the paleo manifesto with john durant i edited it and there were gorillas in captivity and the problem with the gorillas is they kept eating

their poop or they weren't eating their poop they weren't the problem is because you're eating vegetation it's hard to break down so rabbits cows other animals they eat their poop to get the more nutrition hold on rabbits don't literally eat their poop it's called something else and apparently it's like there's like a gland next to it or something i can't remember i was reading about this because we had rabbits a few years ago they do eat their poop but it's not the same thing as poop sure it comes out of their butt though yeah the thing that comes out of their butt it's it's a wad of cellulose okay yeah yeah yeah whereas cows you know huck it back up and then chew on it and swallow it again okay go to timcast.com because apparently it's great conversation yes and you'll get exclusive segments like this

after the show we'll have a members only segment so so go ahead and do it let's get serious guys all about chicken husbandry chicken husbandry we don't have a rooster and so it's really funny when when like the cat walks up the chickens don't know what to do there's no rooster to be like yo get inside run the cat's coming i'm gonna get serious did you know there's a whole big controversy about uh chickens in i think it's in europe that they just banned or in japan one of these countries chickens there's this book called inside the memory palace i think it was called or something like that the point is when a chicken is born a chick right all the people who breed chickens for food they only want the females because the roosters are tough yeah so there are

people whose job it is to take a newly hatched chick squeeze its whatever it's junk and it looks very different slightly different excuse me when it's a male or female and in that in that one second they throw it into the shredder or the meat grinder or they put it aside and that's their whole job yeah yeah people were complaining animal rights people you're killing 50 the chicken population and they just recently made it illegal wow so now they're gonna have all these surplus roosters and the other thing i know about chickens i feel like joey tribbiani when he got the the um encyclopedia and he got volume c the other thing is um what was i gonna say i forgot something about roosters roosters are hilarious man chickens are funny they're just funny to watch them do their chicken thing they're great they run up to us because we like there's so many stink bugs out here we just flick

them in and then they they dude it's like it's the size of a whole pizza to these things you know what i mean and now when we walk in they run up to us and then we try and like go and grab them they freak out and run screaming so it's just funny anyway let's talk about you're supposed to say they're running around like chickens with their heads not cut off yes not cut off you said they're bigger now they're not chicks anymore they're pullets

pullets that's right all right enough chicken talk we're gonna get my friends smash the like button subscribe hit the notification bell we're really close to breaking a million. How did we just deviate for five minutes on chicken talk? I don't know. This conversation is so good.

Let's talk about what's going on with the Chauvin trial. Check this out. We got this from the Daily Mail. George Floyd's girlfriend breaks down in court as she reveals they were both addicted to opioids and the drugs were sold by his friend who refuses to testify at Derek Chauvin's murder trial. I'm just going to write this down for you. This guy, Maurice Lester Hall, a key witness for the state, filed a shock notice on Wednesday stating that he plans to invoke the fifth against self-incrimination.

Okay. The defense asked this woman, George Floyd's girlfriend, did George Floyd see Maurice Lester Hall a lot? Did he hang out with him a lot? And she was like, not a lot. Every so often. Yeah. Every so often.

She said she didn't like him. She apparently said in an affidavit, I think, because they showed her the paper saying you told the FBI this. I think it was the FBI that Floyd had purchased the pills from this guy. And so here we have it. Let's think about this. What's the kind of person that you're friends with that you only see from time to time

who sold you drugs in the past? You? What do you call that? What do you call the person? I call him Tim. Oh, okay. If anyone,

it's going to be you, not me. Like a drug dealer. Yeah. Like a drug dealer? That's exactly what it sounded like. Like a man, yeah.

I got a guy. Someone that deals drugs. So George Floyd sitting in the vehicle with this guy. He's sitting in the vehicle with this guy. He's sitting in the vehicle with this guy. The guy's in the car with them? Yes.

And Judge Cahill said in September, back when they're preparing this stuff, the evidence that was presented by defense, it looks like Floyd had a tablet in his mouth. The judge said that. So let's put these things together. The dude, Maurice Lester Hall, is in the shop on surveillance footage. And the Daily Mail pulled one of the clips. And he's dropping something in Floyd's hand. The clerk says Floyd looked like he was under the influence. He was like having trouble speaking, slurring his words. Floyd gets in the vehicle.

He's with this guy. Then we have, what is this? Then we have, that is so annoying. Welcome to Windows. Yeah. I just that is so annoying. Welcome to Windows. Yeah. I just upgraded from Windows 8.1 to 10. It was one of the scariest experiences of my life. All right.

Well, let's try and get back to the seriousness. It's like all the suspense is building up. And then Windows goes boop, boop, boop. All right. Check it out. Check it out. Check it out. That's him telling us we shouldn't talk about this.

Right, right, right. They're like. So Floyd's in the store with this guy, Maurice Lester Hall. Clerk says that he appears to be under the influence you can see maurice lester hall hand him something maybe he was giving him some change we don't know what it was sure there's no reason to assume you know anything and floyd gets in the vehicle with him they're in this suv the clerk said he he took this counterfeit 20 and at first he was like i'll just eat i'll eat it because his boss was like if you take counterfeit money you got pay for it. And then he thought about it was like, I can't do that. Went to his manager and said, what do I do? He said, call the cops.

When the cop approaches the vehicle, you can see it in the body camera footage. Floyd's got something on his tongue. We don't know what it is. The judge said, I think, I think the judge said it looked like a tablet. It looked like something was on his tongue and then it was gone. The defense brings this up. So now you have the circumstance and when i saw that i was like dude the toxicology report showed that he had 11 nanograms per milliliter of fentanyl in a system 5.6 nanograms per milliliter of norfentanyl which is a is a metabolite it's a metabolite of fentanyl my understanding in this context means that it's the fentanyl that's breaking down in his body it could potentially be a precursor substance that people use so we don't know for sure but well uh lydia pulled this up the other day on the show

when when mixing drugs a lethal dose of fentanyl can be seven nanograms per milliliter this guy had 11 and 5.6 of nor fentanyl can we talk about this for a second because i only learned today when lydia picked me up from the airport why people actually use fentanyl i had been under the impression this how much of a straight-up jam, that they're trying to buy heroin. Instead of getting heroin, they're getting fentanyl, and they're getting killed. I didn't realize that people intentionally take fentanyl, and it has some kind of a purpose. Can you explain that a little bit?

It's a medication. It's an opioid. So it is used kind of like Percocet or something like this. My understanding is that, yeah,'s a it's an it's a medication okay and so but i'll say this outright man just to get started this story breaks my heart the story told by the girlfriend is that she and floyd had had chronic injury chronic pain and so they were prescribed opioids and then like many americans they became addicted to it prince Prince, I think, died from it. So after their prescription is cleared, they have a physiological dependence to this. And then we criminalize the fact that they're hooked on something their doctor told them to take.

Can we also explain to people, because I've had my wisdom teeth, maybe other people haven't. I have. When you take Percocet or something like this, they don't understand that it's a painkiller. But pain is obviously, it's not literally happening in your arm or your mouth. It's happening in your mind, right? So what these painkillers do, you're sitting there and it's like you're on a cloud. You're not, you're, you know, the expression, not feeling any pain. It, it affects your psychology and your mood. And you could be sitting, just staring at Ian, staring at you, Tim, and just feeling really mellow and relaxed. And it's very easy to see

how this can become hyper addictive because if you tell someone all you have to do is you know take this pill and for hours you're just going to feel relaxed and happy and have pure bliss you're not going to think well the doctor gave it to me obviously it can't be that dangerous why wouldn't it and then you get a physiological dependence and then because what happens if you stop you know it's kind of like starting stopping short in your car i've had a friend who was a heroin addict and your body starts freaking out because it's not in a position to make that happy juice or serotonin or whatever it is. And now you're in panic because you're like, if I don't get that feeling back, like it's like fight or flight. Your body's in – so it's a very slippery, dangerous slope.

It's not just that. It's that you level out. Like the first time you take it, it feels really good. Eventually you normalize. And if you stop taking it, you go down. So I had been prescribed Percocets several years ago. And they gave me, I think they gave me like 15 or so. I took two and then I stopped.

Yeah. It was terrifying. You know why? It was the greatest feeling. And I was like, I do not like this man. And that stuff's like light compared to fentanyl. Is that right? Yeah, fentanyl is super concentrated.

It is super, yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So listen, listen. Here's a dude who is now in his car. He's OD'd before. He's scared.

He's going to go to jail. The cops are here. Like, dude, I think it's insane that we criminalize people who have a physiological dependence after a doctor gave a medication. You know, Trump ran on this ending the opioid crisis. So now he panics. And it seems based on the story, he was with his dealer. He was buying drugs.

Cops showed up. He ate him. That's what it seems like. Here's the other thing about decriminalization. You know, obviously, I'm an anarchist, and this is my view. But what people don't appreciate when we're talking about decriminalization you know obviously i'm an anarchist and this is my view but but people don't appreciate when we're talking about uh decriminalizing drugs it's the harder drugs that are the most in need of decriminalization because those are the most at-risk people who need to have access to resources who need to not be worried about being locked in prison with rapists

and murderers who are the most like when you're in that state of withdrawal you're not thinking completely rationally your your your brain's only thought is make this, you're not thinking completely rationally. Your brain's only thought is make this feeling you're feeling go away right now. And after a while, you're stealing from your family, you're breaking into places, you're doing things you would never otherwise do. And it's easy to say, just go cold turkey. If anyone has had writer's block, if anyone's been at the gym, you don't feel like working out, imagine that times a thousand because your brain is screaming at you, being very articulate articulate you need to do what you need to do to get this feeling back so it's those are the people who need kind of help and and also it's

very dangerous uh you can die yeah to put someone like this in prison well so if if you're physiologically dependent from an addiction to something like opioids and you don't get it, you can die from withdrawal. You absolutely can. It's brutal, shocking pain. And so look, he was driving. I get it. I get it, man. You break the law, you break the law. Sure. Right?

And so I think what we need to do is we need to reform the system. The problem I have with this is now it's looking to me like Chauvin's going to get acquitted and it's also looking like he should be. But it's also looking like the state is responsible for all of it. The problem here is that the state is prosecuting Chauvin as a scapegoat for their broken system with the war on drugs and for their broken policies where they train the police to do this maneuver with the knee. So if you got a problem with the knee on the neck, I hear you. I hear you.

It was the police that told him to do it. If you got a problem with show with with floyd getting arrested i agree man it's the war on drugs imagine if someone if someone walked up and they and imagine if it wasn't a criminal act to be to be addicted or to be drying the substance buying the substances or at the very least you knew the penalty was a light stint in rehab or a clinic floyd would not have panicked the way he would. The chaos would not have ensued. I get it. There's a $20 bill. I can't believe someone lost their life over a $20 bill. Let's talk a little further. All money's counterfeit.

There's no reason for this $20 bill. It used to be backed by gold, meaning I can go to a store or whatever the bank and say, I want $20 worth of gold instead of this bill. FDR, when he became president, broke every contract in America unilaterally because the contract said, Tim, you're going to paint my house for $500 or gold equivalent. And if it was superinflation, I'm like, you know what? I don't want the $500. Give me the gold. FDR said all those clauses are illegal. Not only did he do that, he made it illegal for anyone to own gold.

Right. So they really made sure that gold couldn't be used as a base of currency. And only now – let me just finish my thought. Only now, thanks to things like Ethereum, crypto, Bitcoin, are there ways for people to store money. It's not the same as gold, obviously, but these are a better store than politicians who could print at will. And if everyone listened to me and bought Ethereum when I was in the show and said to buy it, they would have been up like two and a half times the money all time high as of yesterday so the glasses aren't just for show dapper so look back back to george floyd i just my view is i wish our our criminal justice system was rehabilitative and not retribution or just punitive like okay

we're mad you did this so put them in a box let's can we talk about this also i don't interrupt you a lot of times conservatives are like the guy point out correctly point correctly this guy pointed a gun at a pregnant woman during an armed robbery it's like well if that's the case then he shouldn't be on the street either so no matter which way you cut it this is a screwed up situation what you mean floyd did yeah previously yeah if someone is this much of a violent criminal then they shouldn't they should at least be like we have a sex offenders registry why is there not some kind of violent criminal uh offenders registry when

someone's doing something that egregious yeah maybe i we were talking about gun control and i said if you pay your debt to society you get your gun back you get your vote back and so a lot of people said yeah but if you're violent and i'm like well then if this if if you've listen so you're talking about an extended sentence. This is not OK. By all means, sure. Argue that. I'm saying literally if they're like you did this.

So your punishment is five years. Five years later, you get out. Congratulations. Here's your gun. Here's your voter registration ID card or whatever you need. Right. Well, they don't do voter ID, but you get the point. Right.

So maybe there would be a list or so. I'm still not necessarily a big fan but i understand the idea and ultimately what i'm saying is the listen the most violent president the most violent criminals are always the presidents in the senate because they're the ones who declare war look how much blood is on their hands the state is at fault yes they pay out and hold on but they're the ones prosecuting right now imagine realizing this when the leftists chant the whole damn system is guilty as hell. I'm like right here with you. We got a problem here. The war on drugs doesn't work. It's never worked. It's creating criminals out of victims. It's great.

Like, look, I understand there's violent crime. I was I was tweet up a storm during Trump saying Trump should should pardon every nonviolent drug offender with some review because some might plead down. But the general idea is if you are a nonviolent drug offender, that's the only thing you did. Get him out of there. Get him some help. Have someone give him a talking to and like help them work through their withdrawals and their addictions. That's what I was all about. So the system is putting these people in prison, making them hardened criminals, making it so they can't vote. I think the system is broken. Now, the problem is they're demanding the state that is at fault, put Chauvin on trial, an individual officer working, working as an individual for the state who was told to do something by the state. I have a problem with that.

If we as a community say we need people to be working on behalf of the state to enforce the law and then the individual says, I'm willing to do that. And then we say, OK, but you have no legal protections in the event that we actually end up saying we don't like what the state is doing. Change the state itself, but don't as a community ask someone to do something and then get mad when they do it. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, I just don't agree. I know you're an anarchist. My point is like, most people seem to like the police. I know your opinion, and we'll definitely talk about it because I think it's a fascinating conversation.

I don't think that's factual, that most people like the police. I your opinion and we'll definitely talk about it because i think it's fascinating i don't think that that that's factual that most people like the police i think it's very dependent on your uh environment also the idea of the police and the individual police is a different thing too yes just like everyone hates politicians but they like their congressman yeah yeah so so maybe look where i was in in chicago nobody liked cops. Where I was – Can I ask you, were they wrong? Are the cops in Chicago the kind, decent, normal people? Or are they – okay, there's my answer. No, but you know what I'm saying?

Like when you people talk – The reputation of the police in Chicago. But let me clarify. I had been saved from a mugging by cops where they literally grabbed the mugger and slammed him against the wall. You were only mugged because you're unarmed because of the police yeah you were that mugging was right that's that's actually we we did it so so we did a bonus segment yesterday with jack murphy are we allowed to show that i don't know okay but whatever so so yeah i uh i guess you could call it that no but my point is you're outspoken about – not outspoken.

You exercise your Second Amendment rights. The other day on the bonus segment, you guys are going to want to watch this if you want to see me screaming at the top of my lungs. This is one of the best we've ever done. I was basically saying the problem with Chicago is that they banned guns. And so long story short, Jack said about this incident in D.C. where this guy gets carjacked. The car flips over and he dies. He should have just given the car up. And I said, no, he should not have just given his car up.

And Jack made a good point. You know, don't you think his kids would prefer it if he lived, if he just gave that car away? And I said, if every single person looked dead in the eyes, the criminal attempting to harass or oppress them and said, I will blow your head off if you go near me, this would stop. The problem is in Chicagoago for instance they make it illegal to own guns and so what happens then is the criminals know you can't do anything and they can point a gun at you and and then the cops tell you they tell you this you know what you do the officers say just make sure you comply with everything they want you know i said no so when

the guy tried mugging me i laughed i just kept walking and i i was i just basically ignored him i was like dude first of all, I'm broke. I don't have any money. And he threatened me with a knife, and I just laughed. I'm like, I'm not going to do anything. The point is, if people had the right to defend themselves, and someone walked up to you and said, give me your stuff, you'd be like, oh, I got something for you. It's called a.45. Sometimes.

But there is tactical retreat. In the art of war, you don't want to let someone goad you into combat. You don't want to escalate. Yeah. Maj Ture, who's great. I don't know if you've had him on the show yeah definitely black guns matter shout out to much um he does workshops where he talks about de-escalation and i think this is something that is very important and i'm saying this is someone born in the soviet union it's very important for people especially young males especially low status young males to be educated and be told,

you know what, if you take a step back, you're not a coward, you're not a woman, you're not whatever pejorative you want to use. Sometimes it's okay to be like, you know what, fine, this is not going to escalate because Jeanette Rankin, who was the only member of Congress to vote against World War I and World War II, she said, you don't win a war any more than you win a hurricane. But it's kind of like a knife fight or a gunfight. It's going to end ugly. At the very least, even in a free society, you're going to have to sit down and adjudicate and say, I drew this gun on this person for this reason. I'm not a threat. I shouldn't have my gun rights revoked. So I'm not talking about a fight over honor,

which is a lot of what happens in chicago where two guys refuse to back down because of their honor no no no no you know don't die for pride you know what i mean i'm talking about you're you know a guy you got a couple kids and you're with your wife and the state says you can't have guns anymore and you know you live in shy rack so you know a lot of people in chicago do they go and illegally buy them anyway of course and there's a lot of good you know hard hardworking families with no criminal history who are in felony possession of firearms because they refuse to be victims to these gangs who terrorize their neighborhoods. And who's enforcing these laws? The state and the police.

Okay. So what do you think should be done when someone takes an oath to uphold the constitution and in violating that oath they leave poor helpless people defenseless in their homes do you think these people should be respected no okay my work here is done i'm out of here but we agree i think there needs to be heavy reform and the problem is social enforcement yes the fact that the police will face no repercussions for this so So it used to be the cop would show up and they get a free hot dog. Now we're hearing a lot that they don't. But the problem is it's not for the right reason. So bringing it back to Chauvin, my point is this.

If the left said, I don't care about Chauvin. I care about the police department. I care about the laws. The war on drugs doesn't work. People who should not be criminals are being criminalized unfortunately there's there's there's big gaps in the logical consistency of many many people and i assure you i recognize this i have it as well as we all do yes of course but when you have people who say there was something posted by um rachel maddow it was it said people who would take the rights from others deserve none themselves or whatever. And so I tweeted, Rachel Maddow agrees all gun control should be abolished. Yeah. Because what she doesn't understand is that she regularly advocates for taking people's rights away.

She understands. Sure, sure. So a lot of these people on the left, many of the progressives, they're actually pro-gun. They absolutely are. They're like the Socialist Rifle Association types. And then there's a decent overlap with many of these Antifa people. Some of these Antifa people recently arrested in Portland were armed with guns. Well, the Marxists are very pro-gun because the argument – you know what?

I'm writing about this in my upcoming book, The White Pill. There's a myth among the boomer conservatives that gun control started as a result of – they didn't want like black people to become armed post-Civil War. Well, we've said that. It actually started in Illinois because a lot of these labor unions were forming militias. And they were drilling because they were ready to start a revolution. And this was a big problem. It's like, wait a minute. The Second Amendment specifically says you should have a militia.

They're forming labor militias in the idea of eventually killing the capitalists and taking over and this was a huge supreme court case and they lost and that's where gun control really kind of started what year was it i think 1870 so so and then and then what within like a couple decades wait what was it called the haymarket massacre was that what it was called that that you're don't spoil my book but yes haymarket massacre that's in chicago was that that is in chicago yes yeah that was what happened with that someone threw dynamite or something okay so okay this is this is the story of lewis ling who's on the cover of the anarchist handbook which i'll be back on uh to talk about when it's ready assuming i don't burn this bridge today um who knows it's a live show let's start

this off made of glass so everybody understands the context you're saying that gun control starts with these labor unions and now we're talking about the hay market hay market massacre it's a very very quick transition so what happens is in illinois you have these they're very heavily immigrant very heavily german uh labor unions are forming malicious and they're they're they're mustering i think it's a term when they're you know practicing so on and so forth there was a union meeting in hay market square in chicago which is still around, and different people were talking. At night, a bomb got thrown, dynamite. A lot of people got killed, including several police officers.

A bunch of anarchists were rounded up, some of whom were not even there, and they were accused of conspiracy to commit murder because they were advocating these radical ideas. One of them was someone named Louis Ling. If you look him up on the internet, he looks like Channing Tatum. It looks like a contemporary photo, even though it's from 1870 something. It's crazy. What is it? Louis Ling? Ling, L-I-N-G-G. He's the stud of anarchism. He was the first Che Guevara, basically. Wow, you're not kidding. I'm not, right? I'm impressed.

Yeah, he's a hunk. Jeez, what the heck? They put these anarchists on trial. Louis Ling ling they had searched his house and there was a lot of dynamite in his house and his lawyer said weekly well he's got a right to have dynamite in his house this has become a meme where lewis ling is alleged to have said i couldn't have thrown that bomb i was at home making bombs because he wasn't there but a bomb but a bomb got thrown they were sentenced to death they were all hanged le. Lewis was one of the four that were hanged, excuse me, or five. Lewis escaped the hanging because he snuck in a blasting cap into his jail cell, blew off his jaw, and then wrote in blood on the wall, hooray for anarchy.

The others, one of them, when he was being hanged, said, someday the voices you strangle will be louder than the – someday the – I forgot the term, whatever. They got pardoned many years later, and there's a memorial to them right now in Chicago. But this is where a lot of it started. The gun control stuff. Yes. Wow.

Well, we – So the conservatives – it's funny. The ACLU also got started defending communists because it was this radical revolutionary idea. So a lot of conservatives like to adopt these ideas, and they don't realize where the origins are from the radical, radical left. So this could have been a false flag. The law could have thrown dynamite in and blamed it on these.

That's what they said. They said this was an agent provocateur paid for by the capitalists to get us in trouble. And we still don't know who threw the bomb to this day. So let's wrap this back to the origin of how we start talking about this, which was the Chauvin trial. They're going after one guy, Derek Chauvin. If they convict him, the state, which in my opinion is responsible, will cheer and hurrah and all of the activists will be satisfied.

Well, probably not. But if the idea is they want Chauvin put on trial as the individual, they're ignoring what's really going on. And I liken this to, you know, I'll put it exactly like this. It's like, imagine if there was, you know, in Feudal Japan, the ninja was tasked with taking out the emperor.

Instead, he fought with the palace guard and then celebrated when the palace guard, one of them, you know, was removed from his post. Chauvin is just one guy who works for a system getting that guy convicted won't change anything and he was just some guy who was doing like you know he was told here's how you restrain someone now whether or not he actually did anything wrong in that capacity stopping floyd i disagree with the war on drugs but there's arguments about what you do when there's when there's statutory law in the books derek chauvin was trained by the minne Minneapolis police to do, it's called the recovery position.

That's what it said in the training thing that they released. Because if you put your knee on their back, they could asphyxiate. So he literally moves his knee. Should this guy be convicted after everything we've seen with all the evidence? Chauvin with the fentanyl in his system, with a guy who now it appears to be a dealer. He appeared to be high. Floyd said before he was even restrained, did you see this? I can't breathe. He said it before he was even restrained. So all of that leads to this conclusion of at least bare minimum reasonable doubt. My problem, the war on drugs, first and foremost, is a big part of this,

especially when I saw, you know, Floyd's girlfriend testify about opioid addiction and what they were going through. And I was like, this is insane, insane man that we're doing this the problem i have is the activists who are angry are being easily distracted and pointing at one guy and when he's convicted nothing will change they will not do anything there's two things one they want to make an example of him to make all the other cops for online two is i just want to point out what the slogan the the thing on the memorial is because it's's a great quote. He said, this is August Spies, who was one of the ones who was hanged. He says, the day will come when our silence will be more powerful than the voice you were straggling today. So I think that's the case with a lot of people who were killed by the state. It's that they are

silenced, but you know, what they represent, which might not actually be accurate, you know, speaks, speaks volumes. Yeah, well, Michael, the state realized that. And so now they go for character assassination instead. They, they, they learned, they learned a while back and I'm surprised it took them as long as it did, to be honest, when they were like, Hey, if we got a problem, we just kill them. And then it's like, well, congratulations. You've made a martyr who's immortal now. Right. So they have to smear your reputation and make you a nasty diddler or something. And then all of a sudden your legacy is destroyed and nobody wants to reference your name anymore.

And they're trying to do that with the Trump administration. There were several articles written how they're trying to make people trying to make anyone who worked for him radioactive and unhirable. Remember, it was tough for the former president to I mean, your job as defense attorneys to defend child abusers, you know, murderers, rapists, like the most horrible people, that's your job. They were having trouble finding people to defend the sitting the sitting or at the time former president uh for the impeachment trial and now you see what facebook said right no i didn't the voice of the president is not allowed on their platform i saw that yeah the voice of lara trump yeah what it was that lara trump president's uh daughter-in-law

um she interviewed him he didn't say anything particularly inflammatory he didn't talk about the election they pulled the video and they said you cannot have trump's voice on our site so they have ai just clocking trump's voice ready to pull no they knew no apparently when she expressed her intention they called her yeah they and they sent an email saying like just so you know if you do this you're gone and then she was like i'm gonna do it anyway and i was like right on they're trying to vanish a president from existence who's still alive this is let me ask you do you think that the moves being made by the establishment today are something new or do you think those individuals in this power structure has always existed but slipped up i i think they're losing their power.

I think these are the same moves. They're trying to make people – making people radioactive has happened for a very long time in this country. And I think they have to ramp it up because if there's three networks, ABC, CBS, NBC, the three of us can get in a room and be like, look, this guy's a clown. We're not going to repeat him. Yes, yes, yes, shake hands. That's why a lot of ideas that were kind of on the fringe would be heard by the mainstream because it's like the three of them said,

yeah, we're not going to talk about it. Now, when you have this show and infinite shows on YouTube, on Rumble and all these other locations, it's impossible to have a monopoly of the megaphone. So now they're freaking out because it's very difficult to sustain a regime based on mistruths or untruths

when all it takes is one jerk with a Twitter account to be like, this is inaccurate. And then your whole facade falls. It's like finding out your wife has been cheating on you. Maybe she cheated on you once, but that changes the whole 10 years. The crazy thing about it is, what we're seeing with the censorship

or seeing with steven crowder it's it's clearly insane and it's it's like every single time the new story happens it's worse than it's been why do you say what do you mean by insane because when i when i when i heard about this when i was doing my north korea book a lot of times people say insane when they just don't understand the system and a lot of times the system is coherent i mean insane as in the figurative that it's so shockingly outrageous it would make anyone think the world is gone nuts. I just mean insane as in like is a hyperbolic. This is – what is going on?

This is – dial it up to 11. Yeah, yeah. Crowder broke no rule. He did not break a single rule. I know because I've spoken with Google on the phone, with Google representatives on the phone about their rules. It's really interesting. I wonder if Crowder will sue them for defamation, because what they're telling people is that in these articles where people ask about Crowder, they say that he violated their deceptive policy or spam policy. But the specific email that got

sent out by Google said, you can't do this particular thing. Crowder did not do that particular thing. He said, you can't say these two things at the same time. Crowder did not say those two things. But then they tell the press he violated that rule. Well, that's a false statement of fact. He didn't. They claimed he, they removed a video for trying to, you know, circumvent his restriction. He didn't.

The rules clearly state, or at least Google has said, you can upload to another channel if the content is substantially different, which it was. He filmed a cell phone video saying, hey, guys, here's what's happening. It wasn't his normal show. Too bad, they said. So this is crazy, right? Now, here's the thing. Even if they get rid of Crowder, and it really does feel like as time goes on, they are strangling

these networks. But can I interrupt? Because there's all these names that they've successfully picked off one by one that we forget about remember nick monroe yes yes absolutely he was he i mean he was a badass on twitter who is he he was a twitter journalist shout out to nick if he's watching and he would be breaking a lot of stories because there would be something in the corporate press and he would just he was this nerdy kid with a computer and a lot of spare time and he'd do his due diligence and he'd find articles like – what you're saying is not accurate. Here's the receipts.

They got rid of him. Carpe Duntum, who was President Trump's meme maker. This guy is basically making memes for the president, thinks they're going viral. They yanked him. Shout out to my friend Carpe Duntum. And there's others that we can name that they just – Milo. Milo was a shocking one to me.

That was a shocking one to me that was like i don't know that was a shocking to me not shocking he put in his twitter profile that he worked for buzzfeed it was that they banned him across all the platforms that was the collusion yes right the fact that when it comes to these higher profile personalities uh none of them should be banned by the way i just don't think so um they colluded or at the very least they were like waiting for the moment when they could all act in concert and for some reason did. Although it's not completely unified

because like Twitter waits a day or two before they finally do it. Well, they waited a while for Alex Jones. Right. Yeah, that was another one. Collusion. But it's very, but the thing is like,

I'll play devil's advocate to some extent. I don't think people appreciate how weak a lot of corporate America is, and no one wants to stick out their neck. So it's a lot easier for me as Jack Dorsey, if YouTube and Zuckerberg are all doing this, for me to be like, there's no cost for me to join them. But if I'm sticking my neck out, like we saw with Black Lives Matter and the guy who ran CrossFit, and he's like, this has nothing to do with us. We're're you know gay exercise organization they're like well you know now you're the odd one out yeah so it very much groupthink does play into this is not necessarily nefarious uh well so here's what i wonder obviously there is a mainstream and

youtube will will pick off one by one all these big channels and they're really homogenizing everything i don't know how long will last a lot of people are like tim will never get bandies to milquetoast even though Facebook already removed me. Nick Monroe is, I mean, I'm not going to call you milquetoast. Nick Monroe was not some kind of radical. Yeah, they said he was circumvention. Yeah. But so even after they do that, the technology, cryptocurrency, your own private websites, open source tech still exists. Crowder has a website. He has Mug Club. He's got, you know, he's with Blaze TV. They can reduce a decent amount of his reach on their platforms. But in the end, look at what

happens when Trump gets banned off Twitter. People start losing followers like crazy. Right. A lot of people were only on Twitter for the president in the first place. When Patreon banned Carl Benjamin, who now runs the Lotus Eaters podcast, which you guys should check out, I lost a ton of support from people who are messaging me saying, dude, love your work, but I'm here for a lot of people

and I have to move now because my favorite show is Carl's show, so I'm getting off of Patreon. And then I had no choice. If I stayed on, I would have lost 20 or 25% of my- Oh, so you went through that personally. I didn't know you were on patreon i was through it through it too i was on patreon then sam harris left dave dave rubin launched locals now i'm on malice.locals.com it's a

patreon facebook hybrid people can it's free to join five bucks if you want to contribute the point i look i know you're not a fan whatever the point is i got off patreon the second i could there was an alternative because it's not a sustainable career as a creative type to know that overnight, I could have all my work vanished without any recourse, without any explanation. Whereas now, I can call Ruben up and be like, yo, what's going on and have an actual response. I think that's a very big difference. And a lot of people had the ability to call Jack Conte of Patreon and do the same thing. Okay, I did not have that ability. Right, right, right.

So right now, the issue I take, and look, I think Dave's great. I think he's a friend. And local sounds awesome. My issue is and always will be centralizing. Basically, joining any of these platforms means they could remove me whenever they want. And what do you think's going to happen?

Wait, wait, wait. Who are they? You mean locals or me personally? Right now, it's Dave Rubin. He can snap his fingers and destroy your career. I don't know about that. Or like... I mean your income, your stream,

everything you've posted on locals. But I mean... I'd be a little hyperbolic. I'd say career. You've got other platforms. I thought you meant being hyperbolic about the idea that you have a career. Fair.

Fair. I am here. Fair. Fair. I am here. Fair. Fair. All right. But I mean, that's a function of anything. If you're going to be a waiter, if you're going to be a chef, I mean, you're going to

have some owner. Someone's going to, unless you're totally self-employed. So reduce that amount. Sure. You're singing my song. That's why we started TimCast.com. I was like, why should I be on someone else's platform? I should make my own.

And what my plan is now, we've talked about it quite a bit. Ian's recommended some developers he might have. We're going to make an open source plugin that anyone could just drop on their own website, which creates the full package subscription model. And I have no control over it. That's a great idea. Absolutely. I am going to, with this project, attempt, I will say, to destroy all of these subscription services, every single one of them.

Let's just improve them from a distance. And more power to you. I think this is something that I get into a lot on Twitter. People are so – because they sarcastically say, oh, just build your own Patreon. No, just build your own website. It's like there's a lot of smart people who are seeing these problems coming down the road. It's hard to miss. These problems are Godzilla-sized.

And all it's going to take is one smart person, here you go, and be like, this is going to be a workaround. And once this problem is solved, it is solved permanently. I'm old enough. I'm 63 to remember when the idea – Get out of here. You're not – I'm old enough to remember when people said the idea of, oh, make your own website

would have been an absurdity. Now it takes 10 minutes. 10 minutes. Yeah, you get a WordPress plugin. Yeah. And they're amazing. So we want to start... I mean, look,

you don't need a lot for your own subscription service. Like, TimCast.com is not this... It's not the biggest thing in the world. It's a relatively simple WordPress. From the new members we got, we were able to make a better website launching soon, which

is now pro. And from those members, we're now going to start funding TV shows, movies. And I actually, I read through a treatment for a show we might produce. This is amazing stuff. It's going to be awesome. I want to create an open source project that someone could just install on a web server. Like they find a hosting company, they install it. Boom.

When you go to their website, it looks like any of these subscription services. It's got a login signup function. It's got a database. Now there's some things you have to be responsible for security, things like that. Your own payment processor, things like that. Probably Stripe or PayPal, like most people use, but it'll be like one click, boom, package upload. Your website exists.

Then you'll have all the WordPress functioning for uploading photos. And you'll have a little bit of a learning curve, but for the most part, you will have a totally decentralized Patreon system. Let me tell you, I talked to Jack Conte of Patreon a couple of times when people got banned. And just for a lot of people who may not understand what's going on, Patreon is a subscription service. They abruptly banned Lauren Southern, eliminating her income. They later abruptly banned Carl Benjamin, eliminating his income. And just so people understand, abruptly means it's not like YouTube where you get a strike. It's like you wake up and all your names are gone. All your money is gone. Any money that they had in escrow they pulled for you, you're not seeing a penny of this is very sudden and it's out of nowhere and you're not given warnings this is

people need to appreciate how extreme this is so lauren southern got pulled overnight without warning wakes up one day to find out her income stream is just gone then they said don't worry we'll never do it again and then they did it again to carl benjamin what i was told long story short in a phone call with jack hy, I talked to him for a long time on a couple different occasions. I'll give you the gist of it without telling you necessarily specifics, because I'll respect his privacy in that regard, but it's simple. The sentiment was this.

When one of our partners comes to us and says, we're going to shut down your entire website unless you get rid of one person, I have a choice to make. Yeah. 10,000 people's careers and those livelihoods or one. Well, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. My response was tell them to shove off. And then when those 10,000 people and all their 10,000 followers or 1 million followers each are wondering what happened, I'll point them in your direction. Instead, they just give up. So I'll tell you this. Much as I respect Dave Rubin, what do you think would happen if MasterCard

called him up like they did to Patreon, and they say, if you don't get rid of Malice, we shut your company down overnight? Well, let's just pretend he's saying Bridge of Phetasy, because she's much more expendable than me. Love you. We don't have to argue about this, because this actually happened. So Cody Wilson,

who is awesome, who's the guy behind Ghost Guns, defense distributed. I'm wearing the shirt right now. He had something called Patreon. And he was trying to make a Patreon alternative where people who are banned from Patreon can go there. People who are heretics. And his issue, why he had to shut it down, is because precisely like you said, Visa or Stripe, one of the payment processes says, no, we're not doing business with you. If you can't get money from person A to person B, it's really not over the internet. There's not a mechanism of change.

Everyone's flipping out like, Malice, you're ignoring this. How's the market to soften this? I'm telling people right now, whether it's through crypto or some other mechanism, there are a lot of smart people who see this for the problem that it is and are taking steps to work around this. And this is something that absolutely has to happen. But I'm sure you know even better than I do people who are doing this and trying to have the workaround so that Visa doesn't have that kind of you by the throat.

And the big problem, it's very simple. Every single person that I talk to about this, not every single person, there's a few, you know, we have pocket net they sponsor us they want to go full decentralized blockchain so they're they're that we're glad to have them sponsor the show uh you know when we have when we do when we do their shout outs periodically um but and it seems like they're truly decentralized like it's all on you it's you're you're the node operator it's yours and that sounds like a good a good place to start but a lot of these companies need to make money yeah how do they fund the development and so i

have people saying to me like you know when i was pitching this idea of creating an open source decentralized plug-in that other you run it yourself don't look at me i got nothing to do with it i can't ban you it's not my website and they're like yeah well how do you fund that like are you going to charge them a percentage fee i was like no we give it away for free because we're socialists here at timcast IRL to a certain degree. Yes, I absolutely am going to take the money that that, you know, some of the excess money we get and create a system that will protect free speech and subscription services for many other people.

Now, it may be that, you know, Ian downloads this package and he creates his own website and then his payment processor bans him. But that won't affect anybody else. And there's nothing we can do about it. That's between him and his business. We don't need that centralized node, individual who has that power. We take that power away. I think the ultimate value here for my company and everyone else's is it protects us in the long run if everyone is on a decentralized system.

Now, here's the best part. Just one more thing. It's also good for your company because good karma that gives you dividends i i'm a firm believer if you help people and empower them it comes back to you in the future but here's the here's the other way it's going to really help us i guess you don't care i do i do i want to make a program those people spin up their own crypto yeah check it out with this plugin it will create a network between everyone who uses it so we're very preliminary ian so far mentioned a few rss3 we basically want to evolve rss so you can now have you used gab's dissenter

browser i've not it's like a browser you download like chrome or whatever but you go to a website and then you can comment on the website on the browser so something like that with like a matrix login passport where you have your name and all your data of like who you're subscribed to you can put your payments through that um and you can use rss i'm just very excited to be here learning about how skynet was built yes and if we free the software code we'll be able to watch the ai go haywire and see why it did it in real time i'll tell you my my vision would be if i upload this this package to my server and press install or whatever and you get this template, it's going to have videos, blogs, login. You log in. Then like I on the back end have to put in my bank and all this stuff and set that up.

But there will also be a networking link that when you go to it, it shows you trending websites. So if Ian has iancrossland.net running the same thing and he got a million views this week in that networking it's gonna be like here's one of the biggest shows and we can't control that it's just an open source network protocol that tracks big channels it could eventually create a more power you have the more power you gain kind of thing but ultimately no one will be who has iancrossland.com i don't this guy ian crossland he's like a boy scout or something is that like literally a kid well he's a guy okay Okay. An older man. Cool dude, I think.

I've only seen him from a distance. You know the head of the CIA, former head of the CIA, John O'Brennan? Yeah. Someone should look at JohnOBrennan.com. That website is going down right now. No, no. I think 10,000 people have seen that website. You mentioned this before.

Is it good? It's good. Also CadburyCreamEggs.com. Oh, gosh. What? I own it. Oh, you do? Yeah. I love them. It's Easter on Sunday. It's Easter every day in my stuff. That's right also cadburycreameggs.com oh gosh i own it oh you do yeah i love easter on sunday it's it's easter every day in my stuff i was gonna say about all right that's because

i keep rising to the grave well let's uh uh let's let's get very serious with the censorship stuff and why i think it's so important so look i'm talking a lot i don't like talking a lot when it comes to projects we have not done okay right sure Right. Sure. So, yeah, I'll tell you that as far as we've come with this is we've speculated on some ideas and Ian's been like, I've got a handful of developers who could maybe get started on the project. People keep messaging me too and continue to do that. Please. Twitter's a good place.

I'm thinking maybe we need to start a 501c3. I think it's about time in Delaware. And that's, I don't know where, but it's a 501c3 whose mission is to create this open source subscription networking service so that people control their own Patreon. I'll tell you why. And that's, I don't know where, but 501c3, whose mission is to create this open source subscription networking service so that people control their own Patreon. I'll tell you why. Right now, as we are seeing YouTube ban Donald Trump's voice, the result of this is unprecedented. Is it YouTube also or just Instagram and Facebook?

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I got it wrong. I really want to make sure we get that right. Yeah, yeah. As we are seeing Facebook and Instagram ban the voice of the president, but YouTube did take down right side broadcasting networks, video of Trump's giving a speech. All of these moves in big tech censorship is leading to a – it's building up power for the establishment. They're trying to regain control.

Earlier, of course, you mentioned it used to be three networks. It was really easy for them to control everything. Now it's harder. What ends up happening is – I think it's impossible, but go ahead. Right. What ends up happening is once they start centralizing control by having their allies in tech ban people, well, they win elections. Donald Trump loses. And then the result of this is terrifying. The New York Post reports U.S. expresses unwavering support for Ukraine amid Russian military movements. The New York Times reports fighting escalates in eastern Ukraine, signaling the end to another ceasefire. Ukraine and Russia issued statements Tuesday noting the worsening of a conflict that has been on a low simmer for years with countless ceasefires.

It's picking up and what's fascinating about this is that before donald trump this was a major move by the existing u.s establishment intelligence agencies the military industrial complex gaining control getting western influence into ukraine yeah and and then creating this major conflict don't get me wrong putin has a lot to to account for in terms of his responsibility here the seizing of crimea and the the assistance he's providing to the separatists in the east. But this is the big war. I should say this is one of the big conflicts having a lot to do with the Gazprom natural gas monopoly. Europe is faced with very high energy prices. They wanted to get a pipeline from, it's called the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. Long story short, all of these pieces come together in really interesting ways. In 2009, this is reported by The Guardian, the U.S. wanted to destabilize Syria because

Syria was refusing U.S. interests, refusing to allow them to build a pipeline that would bring natural gas into Europe. Well, Syria said outright, Russia is our ally and we will not harm their business interests with their gas monopoly. Convenient for us, there was a civil war, a revolution, and conflict in attempts to destabilize Syria occurred, and U.S. interests are there even right now. Reports that the U.S. is moving more in. So it's unsurprising to me that we're a couple months out of Joe Biden becoming president,

and all of a sudden, Ukraine lights back up. Of course it's not. I mean, of course it's not surprising. I mean, I think anyone who's even remotely red-pilled understands perfectly well that there's these international networks where they work together and Joe Biden was their guy. And here's what really bothers me about Joe Biden. This is, I think, the worst thing you can say about him. And this is something that's not even really particularly controversial.

If you, in my opinion, correctly regarded the Iraq war as a mistake, right? Let's suppose I was a chef. I've used this metaphor before. And I accidentally undercooked some chicken and someone dies, right? Like, God forbid. Not only would I feel enormous guilt, I'm like, okay, I need to take mechanisms. If I'm going to still remain a chef, which I know that I would do because I killed someone, God forbid, I'm going to take steps to make sure this kind of thing never happens again, because this is so beyond the pale and inappropriate. I don't know how many people die in the iraq war iraqis and americans alike if joe biden says this was a mistake and you feel guilt

over tens of thousands about hundreds of thousands of innocent lives being hundreds hundreds of thousands of instant lives or maybe not even instant lives but i don't think people everyone should be killed i would be like all right i'm gonna make sure this doesn't happen again i'm gonna staff my white house with people who don't think this way I'm going to make sure this doesn't happen again. I'm going to staff my White House with people who don't think this way. I'm going to make steps to kind of put fail-safes in place. I mean, the urine in his Depends wasn't dry before he was sending arms to Syria. This is very disturbing. And I got to tell you, you see these photos of these hippies in the 60s with the soldiers. And this girl hippie puts the daisy in the barrel.

Girl hippie. Well, there's that very famous photo. And as a kid, I thought, what an idiot. And now I think, you know what? She's not the idiot. Because she's really, even though she's maybe naive and not particularly whatever, sophisticated in her thoughts. She's like, you know what? This is wrong and and we are all raised to think that war is a last resort but it's treated as a first

priority by the state and this is one of the biggest reasons i'm an anarchist war is so glorified and even when it happens like everyone's just like and i'm like do you understand what this means bombs from the sky and children and innocent kids? The truth is they don't understand because they haven't experienced it. Yeah, you're right. I don't even understand it. Right. You know what it is to me?

The United States is the capital city in the Hunger Games where they're all totally oblivious to the suffering of the outside districts who are being beaten and forced to fight to the death. And they're like, so what? And they're drinking Ipecac to vomit and keep eating until the war comes to them. You see, it was I believe it was the CIA that referred to I'll keep the language light. OK, the CIA said actions in the Middle East resulted in blowback. Yeah. That when we were going over there meddling in governments, arming rebel groups, people got mad at us over there and they brought it back over here.

And all of a sudden, the people in the Capitol are shocked. What's happening? Why is it happening? Don't worry. They just hate you for your freedoms. Some simple answer. So you get these people blindly and ignorantly just cheering and dancing for the war machine. And then when it comes back to them, they pat you on the head and say, oh, it's because of your freedoms. Don't worry. Not realizing that, dude, maybe if we just minded our own business a little bit and worked on ourselves, people wouldn't be doing these things. Now, there are some serious challenges, though. China's expansion into many of these areas, their authoritarianism, they're trying to take over. And it seems like they're doing a heck of a good job of it, which is scary to me.

Because if they end up as the global power, I don't like the idea of them gaining influence over us, but it seems like it's happening happening either way but the thing is they're not gaining influence over us through militarily right they're gaining influence over the same way the soviet union did through surreptitious means through intelligence uh and through journalism and and thing and getting the right people uh who are kind of um fans of theirs to some extent or at least neutral in the right positions of power that's the insidious part. China is not going to fight the US, maybe through a proxy war like the Korean War, but it's not going to be like a World War III, God forbid. But they are going to do mechanisms to make sure that their opinions are presented as unarguable within the States.

Shout out to the fourth turning, which you're familiar with, I believe, yes? I'm not. Strauss-Howe generational theory? No. So this is a book about 25 years ago. Look at this. Shocked. I'm shook.

I'm really surprised that Michael hadn't heard of that. Fascinating. Every 20 years is a new season, and every 80 years we go through a major upheaval. Oh, God. I hate stuff like this. It is so—oh, my God. You don't like it, huh? This is like astrology.

Sure. Interesting. 80 years ago, we had World War II. Sure. 80 years before that, we had a civil war. 80 years before that we had a civil war 80 years before that we had a revolutionary okay and look every president who was inaugurated um it was 1789 1865 1933 and would have been 2005 where is that 72 years in between it was washington lincoln fdr so it would have been george bush's second term so yeah sometimes these patterns appear but to claim that they're kind of inevitable, I really reject that.

I don't think they're inevitable. No, if the implication is that these cycles tend to repeat, I think this is the kind of thing where you get the conclusion and you force the data to fit it. Well, perhaps. Possibly. They wrote this book 20 years ago, and they did predict a certain amount of things and certain amount of things that got wrong, because that's typically the case when someone's speculating.

But the general idea is, it's actually really simple to explain. Strong men make good times. Good men, I'm sorry, strong men make good times. Good times make weak men. Weak men make hard times. Hard times make strong men. Have you heard that before? I have. The general idea is that we've seen it with generational wealth. It typically lasts three generations. The individual who came from nothing and worked really hard and understood what gumption was, starts a business,

makes a lot of money. Then they have a kid. The kid grows up. Yeah, shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in three generations. Right. And so that's kind of the general idea that we're now entering this period

where you have a bunch of very entitled people who simultaneously complain about the police, but then demand that the state be given more power over many other aspects of their lives. There's a lack of logic in a lot of what their decision making is.

I digress. The point is, according to this book, we are entering the winter period, which should end with some kind of calamity. But here's the issue. The problem is that people tend to, and it's not always incorrect, they base the future off of the past. We should look to the past to try and understand what will happen in the future, but there's many things you can't predict because of a change in methodology and technologies. To clarify, as many people think Strassau generational theory is predicting

a massive world war with China, Strassau generational theory says that each war is fought with the most powerful weapons of the time. The question we rose on the show is, and that might be social media. No, it's love. I think it's i think it's laser yes care bear stare is the most powerful weapon no what i mean is a lot of people assume it's nuclear weapons because world war ii sure it's been 80 years yeah the mind control social media manipulation and propaganda is infinitely more powerful right now

you can take over a country without firing a single bullet. You can convince the people to cheer for you as you storm their beaches. I disagree because when, what's his name? I wrote the book Propaganda and there's, this isn't it. Bernays? There's Bernays' book and then there's Walter Lippmann's book, Public Opinion. Those are the two. Those were written in the 20s and 30s. It's a lot easier to propagandize. Look at Hitler. Look at Stalin.

It is a lot easier to propagandize a population without access to independent media. It's a lot harder. Look at FDR. Look at Lincoln. Look at the Confederacy. It's a lot easier to have control of that population than it is now, as counterintuitive as it sounds. It's a lot easier to disrupt a nation's center power centers with independent media than it is. Correct. So what the most powerful weapon is today is not firing a nuke. It's China getting a bunch of sock puppets and bots across social media to undermine cohesion in the United States. I'm all for undermining cohesion in the United States. As you know, I'm for breaking this country up. So that sounds like a good thing to me. I'm just going to take a step back about this book. There's a book I recommend everyone read

by Arthur Herman, who's an amazing historian. His first book was called The Idea of Decline in Western History. And what he goes through is every 20 years, there's a new sect that says, we're at the end of history. It's very millenarianism in the Christian sense. Like it's all going to come down. Get your bootstraps ready. And whether it's the Hitler version or whether it's the Greta Thunberg version, it's always right now it's the end times. And somehow it never is the Armageddon. So I'm very skeptical of these books where the conclusion always is now is when things are going to hit the fan.

It's always now when things are about to hit the fan yeah i thought mr 2006 mr malice yeah did you see what um marjorie taylor green recently said about vaccine passports i the mark of the beast the mark of the i predicted that you predicted what that christian fundamentalists are going to start invoking the mark of the beast not incorrectly about these vaccine passports not incorrectly yes this is the craziest thing because i didn't know this until someone super chatted us that the mark of the beast was literally saying you couldn't buy or sell without it yeah i didn't know that when i grew up read revelation no no no no and i went to catholic school yeah yes yeah yeah kindergarten till end of fifth grade i was in catholic seven heads and ten horns yeah yeah

and it rose from the lake or whatever something i read it recently and uh i think it was several months ago someone mentioned on the show that the prophecies are starting to come true they're always starting i know i know and so i actually did it i did a segment on it for my main channel people have been more are more immoral now than they've ever been yeah people are saying that like the prophecy of the lady with this this before babylon yeah yeah they're like it's it's venus and the moon and whatever and it's like and the moon and whatever. And it's like, you're looking for patterns, like you were just saying a moment ago. You look for patterns.

Humans are really good at this. What's that thing that's called where you're like, look at it. You can see faces. Yeah, I forgot what that's called. Paradilia or something like that. You can see a face in everything. And so people post these photos on the internet. So I do think it's really interesting, though, that the vaccine passport, you'll need it to buy and trade and now you've got

obviously certain individuals saying could this be the mark of the beast could it be no no it's not it's a bad idea regardless of the mark of the beast uh and the problem is i i i i i'm a fan of hers because i like anyone who's a loon who says things that are just – it's much more effective to get your position across in politics if you come across as unreasonable than if you're trying to sit down and have a discussion. Really? Why do you say – Because there's no talking to her, right? So she's not going to sit down with AOC and they're not going to co-sponsor legislation, right? That's never going to happen.

That's never going to happen. But AOC wouldn't're not going to co-sponsor legislation, right? That's never going to happen. That's never going to happen. But AOC wouldn't do it either. But that's of use to the Republican Party when they're coming off as intransigent because then the Democrats, this happened twice. It happened during the Gingrich Congress in 94, 95. This happened during the debt ceiling crisis under Obama when the Republicans were like, we're not raising the debt ceiling crisis and we might have to default. Those are the only two times they got budgetary concessions from the democrats so it's a very useful thing to come off as or actually be

uh alone that's what a lot of people are saying about donald trump right when it came to foreign policy people were like you can't negotiate with this guy because you know he's out of it and so that put pressure on these four these these other world leaders where it's like what do you do when you have to negotiate for the best of your country? And you're with Donald Trump was going to go, excuse me. No, no, I don't know what that is. We're not. No, no, no.

And you're like, what do I say? He just takes one of the reasons people really like the guy. But I suppose it's a good point. Now, to be fair, I think AOC isn't going to be, you know, coming to the table for the Democrats either. So Marjorie Taylor Greene, like you said, comes off like a loon. AOC is not going is effectively doing the same thing for Democrats. So in essence, not you don't think so. I don't I don't I don't think that's the same thing.

I don't think AOC is saying, well, no, you're right. You know what? Because she is saying the Republicans are changing the weather and their climate change. So I just take it back. Yeah. OK. All right. I was wrong. Look, she said under Donald So I just take it back. Yeah. Okay. All right.

I was wrong. Look, she said under Donald Trump, these are concentration camps. Yeah. So we, we not, we can see, it's funny how they demonize Marjorie Taylor Greene. And I'm like, yo, you guys had AOC first. So you don't get to come out and complain about Marjorie Taylor Greene. Now I can, I can certainly point out Marjorie Taylor Greene's posts on Facebook and she apologized for these things. She did.

She walked it all back. I don't. Okay. I don't. Let's talk about that. Okay. If you say that the Rothschilds are building lasers to change the weather, I get how you're sorry you said it.

What I don't get is walk me through how you got there and why you no longer are going there. That's what I want to know. I don't need the apology. So are you saying that it's quite possible that she's just saying that she really still believes in the space lasers changing the weather? If you believe that space lasers change the weather

as is your prerogative, what changed your mind? Al Roker? Now hold on a second. There was several studies done where they used infrared lasers to cloud seeding. Okay. That actually happened sure i guess the issue is when you claim the rothschilds were doing it you know instead of like it was like a university of berlin or something was like hey we just realized this

thing happens when you point lasers in the sky tinfoil tinfoil pool no no i just think it's like we are what you what you need to understand about the insidiousness of these conspiracy theories is how they they come from a little seed of truth. Oh, of course. And then someone pours Gatorade on them because it's what plants crave. And then they end up with some wacky idea. They can't figure out why things aren't working properly. And also in their defense, we've all played telephone, right?

So I can't tell you the number of times when someone reads an article and then they'll just repeat it. And it's like that's not what the article said at all. I've had people accuse me because I wrote a book called The New Right of portraying myself as having invented it. I'm like, what are you perceiving me having said that that you're getting to this conclusion?

Other than the Rothschilds put lasers in your brain. But look, look, I think AOC holds, I think it's fair to point out thinking about space lasers from the Rothschilds for weather control is like very much out there for sure. It's out in space. Here's the problem. The Democrats believe often many equally insane things.

Sure. Chris Hayes has a guy on his show on MSNBC. Is it possible that Donald Trump has been a Russian asset since the late 80s? And they don't even stop to think that would imply that Trump was still working for the Soviet Union, which doesn't exist. So who is the asset? You know about that, right? Yeah, but I don't think that's as crazy as space lasers, to be honest. It's not. What I'm saying is, well, I mean, that's fairly crazy. We'll have a crazy off and calculate and quantify. No, come on. Wait, what's more crazy, that one person has been corrupted or that they're changing the weather for secret purposes?

I don't think those are comparable in terms of lunacy. And also, Putin was a KGB agent, so there was a lot of continuity between the Soviet Union and now. Absolutely. No one's denying that. We have satellites. We have satellites with lasers. We can use infrared lasers for cloud seeding. We use silver – was it silver iodide for cloud seeding?

Oh, maybe, yeah. I thought it was silver nitrate. It might be iodide. Silver nitrate. I could be wrong. Silver nitrate. There's a silver theyide for cloud maybe yeah i thought it was silver nitrate might be silver nitrate i could be wrong silver nitrate there's a silver they use the point is i'm saying if you had to play roulette and the choices are donald trump has been a russian agent and the rothschilds are firing lasers to change the climate you're saying it's a coin toss no okay i'm saying that they're both really crazy and i understand why you think

one is crazier than the other because it certainly is. But I'm also pointing out what they do is they take morsels of truth to create this like. Of course. It's a lot easier to manipulate with some basis and truth than just something pure fabrication. 1619 project is fabricated garbage. And the left believes this. AOC believes this stuff. It's a creation myth. Right, right, right.

She puts this stuff in policy. So again, I get it. I don't. I'm sorry to interrupt you because I'm going to be pedantic. We don't know that she believes it. It could just certainly be of use to her. I agree. No, I think you're right.

I just mean that she uses it. Yeah. So this is the point I was going to bring up before. Under Trump, she's like, these are concentration camps. Under Biden, she literally said there's no border crisis. And it's different now because Biden is trying to solve the problem. It's worse than it was under Trump. It's not the most amount of migrants. But Reuters even said, we are looking at a 20-year spike in these unaccompanied minors and illegal immigrants.

We got new video from Project Veritas. Children in the dirt under a bridge near McAllen. It is bad. What they don't want to talk about, because no one knows how to wrap their heads around this. There's some articles that mention this, but it's not being made into a bigger deal than I think it really should be. People talk about rape culture. There is a lot of sexual assaults in these. When you have lots of people who have not citizens,

who have no access to the legal system, you don't know who the heck they are. They're locked in close confinement with other people. Like in a prison, you're going to have large numbers of assaults. And that to me is what I find extremely disturbing. And if you actually were concerned about these people who are being held in these locations,

that should be your priority number one. And it's not. And that to me is very, very sick. Let me ask you something. Do you believe Marjorie taylor green genuinely believed those things she was saying yes do you think aoc genuinely believes the things she's saying no which would you prefer in government i would prefer um i can't say what i prefer regarding government because we get banned all right just like we won't go to the

moon with it but if you're like looking at two people and you're like you can have the person who's lying or the person who's crazy, what do you do? I would rather have the person who's lying because the person who's lying is still aware of reality and acting in accordance with it. Whereas the person who's crazy, it is a bell curve. And if you go for standard deviations, you might have things like nuclear war or really. So I agree because the point I wanted to get to is with a liar like AOC, if she was given unlimited resources, she would implement some really wacky, crazy system where she tries to pander to her base. Sure. But at least it would be like health care that people just kind of are upset with or,

you know, generally bad things that still exist in reality. If you took someone who was absolutely crazy, and I'm not trying to imply Marjorie Taylor Greene would do this, but if you had somebody who believed that there was Nazis on the far side of the moon, with unlimited resources, they would get us building rockets to the moon to go fight people who aren't there, and that would just— I might rather have rockets to the moon than socialized healthcare, because less people are dying. We'll see.

So now you made the argument for the other case. Exactly. The point I'm making is that you could have a crazy person just build crazy things i don't know maybe they nuke the moon aoc we're just someone yeah i mean what are you gonna do got something sitting around you can't they're gonna expire at some point so maybe it's not so easy because the liar is going to make a broken system and they do the politicians are just like how can we make everyone happy i don't know give them universal health care that they got to pay for so they get the individual mandate.

Here's the easy one that the Republicans are fiscal responsibility. They never vote for a smaller budget. That's a very blatant, explicit line. Right. You get liars. You get crazy people. And sometimes you get both. I think we have both.

What's the I don't know. I guess your solution is what? Just like anarchy. Yeah. It's not empowering crazy people and liars have you what the power of police i was thinking we could get rid of representatives and just use smart contracts that we vote for as a collective so why do we have to vote on anything so that we can agree without having to talk to each other but because sometimes rivers start on fire

sure but rivers start on fire because the property right of that river isn't being protected who the the people owned the river. But that's not a thing. People can't – who are the – that's the tragedy of the commons is that when no one owns it, then no one feels responsibility for it. And then everyone just takes whatever resources they can and it becomes destroyed. I just – there's a logical hole here. Whenever I have these conversations with libertarians and objectivists about owning water, it's like – so you're familiar with the Cuyahoga River. You're owning water right there.

Right. I'm talking about like a river. Apparently the Cuyahoga River caught on fire again last year. What? Really? Yeah. Someone just told me about it in Cuyahoga Falls. Let's talk about pollution because this is – there's no system where this isn't a complicated issue.

So let's be reasonable here. Let's compare China to the US. The Chinese river dolphin, the goddess of the river, which has been a symbol of China for centuries, has now gone extinct. Wow. The Chinese paddlefish, which I think is the means that government now is trying to pull resources from whatever it can because otherwise the people are starving. So when you have a bougie society, a whole food society, those are the ones who care and have the ability and wealth to preserve the environment, to preserve things like river rivers but i agree with you no no environmentalist or anyone on earth is going to have an easy solution when you're talking about water which moves and you know it's upstream upstream and weather and things like that yeah

have you ever seen did i ask you otherwise other than having a culture where this is revered and something that people care about so i'm i'm i'm very much in favor of environmental regulations um i i don't i don't know if the solutions to the world are always going to be easy or as clear-cut and something that people care about. So I'm very much in favor of environmental regulations. I don't know if the solutions to the world are always going to be easy or as clear cut, but have you ever seen this video? It's by, I think it's a YouTube channel called Gray Still Plays, I think it's called, where it's a game, I think it's called City State.

Okay. And he decided to just make it pure anarchy and he thought it was going to be a bunch of wealthy oligarchs and a bunch of poor people and drugs and gangs. And this video, he's a really funny YouTuber. It's a really, it's a really, really great video because he's shocked by what happens. And so you watch him play the game and you watch the game played by other people. And they're like, I think we need environmental regulations. Okay, let's make sure we have housing for the poor.

And you get a mix of poverty and pollution and you're fighting to keep things going. So he decides he's going to have no regulations, no taxes and let people do whatever you want. And as the game progresses, there's no poverty anymore. Everyone's living in luxury. And he's going, what's happening? It literally says like it's like capitalist oligarchy and there's no poor people. Everyone's homes are being built at their ski resorts everywhere. He's like, why are there so many ski resorts?

Yeah, but the poor people have been made into cold cuts. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Now they have value. The funny thing is, I guess the response you get from the left is that the game was clearly made by a capitalist. But in this simulator. All games are made by capitalists. It's a game.

It's not a gulag. Exactly. I just think. Leisure is a function of capitalism. Yeah. Yes. Explain. Explain.

Come on. What do you need to explain? communists don't play baseball no first of all baseball no baseball is a west western contrivance but the point is when you have a contrivance it is they think it's a waste of time because not working for the culture and i forget why they specifically hated baseball but that maybe because it was too american but yeah when you have these states where you're supposed to be working for your fellow man any spare time that means that's time you're taking away from poor people and hungry people you know to be working they particularly attributed leisure to specialization yeah which came from capitalism you know that in north korea there are people whose job is to be a skateboarder i've never heard of north korea never heard of it

no so there's this place it's a uh it's part of a peninsula. You mean like an island? A place? It's not an island. It's a peninsula. Okay. All right. And the northern part is, you know, basically it's communist. But in this place, there are people who are told they have to skate every day by the government.

Are they competitive? Competitive, yeah. And so they compete, you know. I guess it's the idea. I don't know that they have the ability or I'm not entirely sure. I've just seen the photos and, like, I've read in skateboarding magazines about the communists who are mandated to be skateboarders. Let me break this down a little bit because, as you guys know, I wrote a book on North Korea, dear reader. So it's not – I mean this is something that's taken a little bit out of context.

Athletes in a country that's as poor as North Korea, as small as North Korea, is a great way to have reverence on the world stage. Because they're saying, look, we're tiny North Korea, we're the size of, well, they wouldn't use this example, the size of Pennsylvania, and we're taking on Russia, we're taking on the wicked US imperialists and the Jap, I can't even finish the sentence, because it's a slur. So this is a great, and also, if you're coming from nothing, now it's your chance to be a hero of the entire nation. So this is a big thing during the Olympics with the Cold War. This is a very common mechanism for these states. Cuba.

I talk to people who know people in the UFC who think they engage in these kind of super soldier experiments on kids to make these athletes who are later growing up to be UFC fighters because this is their – and East east german the east german women's swim team were all on a certain type of steroid and they asked the coach they go why do they all have such deep voices and the coach said they came here to swim not to sing this was the quote so this is very common in these uh centralized countries where you are basically becoming a hero because it's kind it's not expensive to become a great skateboarder well don't you think that there's a i'm surprised that skateboarding is a thing there to be honest because that's such a capitalist bougie thing it's entering the olympics okay it was i didn't realize a skateboarding was an olympic event well it's it's i think the first it's its first olympic event is gonna be coming up in china

that's why okay and over the past decade it's been a huge point of contention for skateboarders because i mean skateboarders become for a long time very corporate mainstream cookie cutter and that's kind of a bummer like a lot of the best for a while now a lot of the best skateboarders kind of just like where's the fun where's the wild where's the anarchy where's the punk rock sure it's still there for sure well look at green day same thing with punk rock itself it becomes gap punk sorry Sorry, Billy Joe. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, definitely.

Dookie was good. But I mean, I was young. Listen, listen. You love Dookie, Ian. I love Dookie. You listen to- Ian always loves Dookie. Dude, I love what you said, Michael, about decentralized government.

Because the United States is kind of decentralized. Like states rule. In many ways, yeah. The cops in a state can be like, get out of here to the feds if they come and try and bust up their state laws. And that's very exciting to me that we yeah i mean you you have i think ohio basically said to the atf like we're not going to enforce federal uh gun laws i think west virginia just passed something similar where they're all basically saying even though the atf says that they'll enforce these laws you can't do anything about it i went

i went to the atf's website reading about bump stocks because of this new court ruling that said a bump stock is not a machine gun. And they still say, no, you cannot have it. So I do find it interesting when California legalized medicinal marijuana, the DEA still came in and raided these shops. So it is interesting that you can be in your state

and know that you're safe from your state, basically. The feds still come in. Yeah, I was there for that in L.A. And that was a big fear. A lot of times that the feds would come and raid one of those shops. And they did. I watch videos of it. And there were times that the local cops would be like, get out of here.

But I mean, it was the feds. Yes. It's a weird. I mean, wait, wait, wait. A weird. What are your thoughts? Because I mean, you're coming from a position of anarchy. When you have a state say it's legal to do these things, and the feds say, we're going to come in

and bust them up anyway. I think that's wonderful. I mean, I think anytime you have this kind of power versus power, it just shows you that law is a myth. And all law means is what people don't appreciate is law only works if you have the will to enforce it. So a lot of times things become legal, not because some politicians went in and changed the law, but because there was no political will to enforce it. Same thing with the lockdowns. At a certain point, Cuomo said this. I got paid to read his book.

And he says in the book, repeatedly, he says, I knew unless I got compliance from the voluntary compliance from the vast majority of the population, there was no way I could put this in place so he's like it was important for me to murder the elderly but also to explain to the population why we're putting these things into place so that they would feel comfortable doing this so this is the big

misconception is that versus 1984 versus Brave New World so much of authoritarianism is not a function of a gun to your head like they have in North Korea. It's a function of the televangelists like John Oliver and Rachel Maddow on your TV every night. And Louis Blanc Prothero.

Yeah, of course. Telling you this is good. People who don't do this are bad and evil or stupid. And good people behave in a certain way. And then you don't have to have the cost of enforcing compliance but then yes don't you think a certain point you know we're talking about leisure you end up with too much ignorance weakness laziness and people who this this is i think the strongest criticism of capitalism and i've come up with it and i don't have a good answer

we're this comes from the paleo kind of diet and mindset. If you get to a point where Maslow's hierarchy of needs has been taken care of, meaning you don't have to worry about where the next meal is going to come from. You don't have to worry about the roof over your head. You don't have to worry about your health, really. Your brain is still wired to think in terms of resource scarcity. Our brains are still in terms of get more, get more, get more. And if you don't actually have problems in an evolutionary sense where no predator is going to eat you, you have plenty of food, you have shelter, your brain is going, this is my hypothesis, is going to find problems to validate its emotion in the same way that depression,

anxiety, people don't realize this, the emotion comes first, the depression, the anxiety, then your brain tells you, oh, you're depressed because you don't have a job there's plenty of people don't have a job who aren't depressed it's just your mind tells you exactly what it needs to do to validate this emotion to perpetuate itself it's like in the matrix when smith tells i think he's talking to morpheus and he says we gave you paradise and your brain rejected it yes it's exactly it and i've talked, I talked about this before. Several years ago, I did a segment where I said, our generation has lost purpose. And one of the reasons, and it's why one of the reasons Jordan Peterson was such a threat to the left, because you had these kind of two factions I saw that were large factions,

not necessarily the parent factions, the woke left, the social justice warriors, et cetera, people without purpose. They found their religion. It was their fight that must be fought. And it gave them reason for being. It also gave them status because if I am a lowest status white person, this is the only metric I have by assuming dominance over somebody else. I could be violently anti-racist and have something to hold over somebody else.

I can't compete with them on any other level. So you end up with also follower counts. Sure. Build followers. On the other side, you had listless young men, you know, sitting in their basements playing video games. Well, this was good because it was the demon. It was the enemy. It was the villain for many of these woke people to point at them and call them bigots. Jordan Peterson came along and gave these people purpose, responsibility. He told them, find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it. Not that the guy's perfect, but a lot of people then started, you know, hearing this message

of self-help. And that kind of, it not only... And independence. Absolutely. Meaning it's coming from inside instead of the people around you, and that's dangerous, because they're the ones who are around you. And they want to recruit from a pool of purposeless individuals. Yes. But if people found purpose from within,

and they no longer found purpose from being accepted by a cult, well, then they created actual resistance. So Jordan Peterson had to be villainized in every capacity. It was incredible to watch his interviews with, I think, Kathy Newman particularly, where she was like dumbfoundedly confused

at what he was doing. She just didn't understand. Why are you giving them purpose? So you're saying she's a Nazi? So what I'm saying is, no, I wouldn't. Look at this guy looking at me but she was i'm gonna be on jordan peters show on monday and it's gonna be very exciting oh yeah yes um but she her confusion was like kathy newman and him like why why was she kidding the fact that she was confused was was really weird what she really

she wasn't confused though get it like she was perceiving things in that made sense in her context oh yeah yeah from her she was translating yeah she was thinking he's inarticulate right because he's awkwardly saying what she agrees with already she's incapable of perceiving other the number of people who are incapable of the slightest bit of empathy is through the roof they are absolutely incapable of seeing other perspectives there are people who tell you the straight face why would you be interested in knowing what osama bin laden wanted and it's like well if you want to destroy an enemy don't you at least want another motivation and that makes no sense then they think if you're reading what bin laden wanted therefore you

agree with him and it's like that's not even the implication at all no article that's why they want to ban all these books yes these look this is one of the biggest challenges we face people who just i wonder if we're seeing a separate midwits is maybe not the right word but maybe the right word right so people who are what is it slightly above yeah average 115 iq slightly above average but not smart enough right we were talking about let's interrupt you it's like a guy who's 5 11 he's tall in that he's above average there's no circumstance where his height would be noticeable or of interest but so if you're marginally intelligent you might be the smartest person in group but no one will ever be impressed by your

mind so we were talking about this earlier uh in the george floyd case there's a video where the cop is walking george floyd out of uh you know he's walking him down the street whether there's surveillance footage and the cop says something like you've got foam on your mouth. Are you on something? And Floyd says, no, nothing, man. Then he's like, but why do you have foam on your mouth? And Floyd says, I was hooping earlier. Hoops, shooting hoops.

It's a reference to basketball. PBS reported this as, you know, he'd been playing basketball, maybe got dehydrated, whatever that means. Well, Jack Posobiec posted this. And as a joke, I pulled up the urban dictionary definition specifically highlighting hooping is a reference to smuggling narcotics up your you know your well it's not you know your rear end yeah in a bag behind and so on the urban dictionary post it says get your hoop and mug because whatever word you search for they tell you to buy the

merch for it so i made a joke in response to him because I've been very silly on Twitter saying, don't forget to buy your hoop and mug. And then I showed the Urban Dictionary thing. And these leftists were like, Tim is so dumb. He doesn't know that hooping means basketball. And another person was like, for someone who claims to be from the city, it's shocking. And I said, you guys are the kind of people that thought I was serious when I said impeach the queen. When we have people like that, they active in the in the conversation but not smart enough to perceive their sarcasm or humor or maybe the nuance to the conversation and they vote on these these ideas it's like when you when you mentioned they didn't want to understand osama bin laden sure the

similarity i see there is that their only thought is smash with club, like they see a bad guy and they go, hit with club, hit with club. And so when someone makes a joke, they go, that's the same thing as the bad guy, hit with club, hit with club. And you're like, there's a whole bunch of complex nuance and jokes and humor, and they lack the capability to understand and perceive this. Isn't this a huge source of optimism? No, but think, I'm not kidding. All the dumb people. Yeah, but think about I'm not kidding. All the dumb people? Yeah, but think about it. Who would you rather go against?

Skynet or a bunch of guys with clubs? This is a no-brainer. So, Tim, you've correctly identified it. That's not a problem. Although they're behind their keyboards, although they're on Twitter, they're not literally dressed like Fred Flintstone. You're dealing with thousands of millions of people whose only mindset to an opponent is smash with clubs. Clubs are such a bad weapon. They're not even in Clue.

So this is why I'm so optimistic about the future because you innocently just now correctly identified the nature of the enemy. And this isn't some great Terminator from the future. This is Fred Flintstone. Yes yes but there are people who are smart who have realized without principle they don't have any didn't have any to begin with they can weaponize the hive and use it as a weapon correct they can weaponize it but humans run the country in the world and not bees so i agree with you bees are dangerous and bees can kill people and they're not something to be taken lightly even in terms of insects i'm not being facetious at all but at a certain point it's like there's a ceiling.

There's only so much you could do with bees. Yeah, you could have dogs that shoot bees out of their mouth. But other than that, it's – Yeah, but look. You could also pacify the hive. Yeah. Perhaps you can be smart. You can throw a wrench in the spokes.

You can figure things out. Music, fun games. But there's substantially – Or you could become the queen. Maybe we all are. But how do you become the queen of a hive of people who – Well, you're going to need some blush. Psychic power, baby.

Some eyeliner. Meditation. Take eyelashes. The people who become the queen are the emotional manipulators. They have no principles. Well, at least they don't care. You could have principles if you're an emotional manipulator. Yeah, you could.

It's called a wife. I suppose then what you're saying is we as smart individuals should recognize that – I didn't say we were smart individuals. Let's not put words in my mouth. Okay. So what you're saying is. Now you're Kathy Newman. So what you're saying is.

So what you're saying, Michael, is that you're a drone. So what we should do then. Is live like lobsters. Should we then speak honestly to those who we feel as perceptive and understanding, but then lie to the dumb masses to control them to gain power. No. I think we should be honest that we're going to try and manipulate them. He's asking me what I'm saying. Okay, Michael, you answer this.

Take it. No, what Michael is saying is, you know, I do want to hear your response. Oh, I think we just honestly acknowledge that we are going to manipulate people with the psychic power and do it for righteousness and be honest about our own faults. No, I would say, and Hotep Jesus has this quote, which is not particularly unique to him, to realize you're behind enemy lines, study what the communists did back in the 20s and 30s, study what gay people had to do for decades, and figure out how to pass. So when you're talking to someone who's, this sounds like the cop hit with club.

Once you've identified you're dealing with that kind of person, you talk to them in a certain way. Once you're dealing with people who are slightly red-pilled, whether they're on the far left like Jimmy Dore or somewhere else, you know you're going to have a conversation and it's going to go somewhere. So the big mistake people have, and this is a function of going to a government school where everyone's treated as one class, both in the – literally a class but also the same kind of population, is thinking everyone thinks like you and everyone's wired like you. They're not. So you have to realize, yeah, there are some bees and there are some wasps. Wasps aren't bees at all. They're actually ants. And realize, okay, I'm dealing with this kind of thing. I have to address them in a certain way. If I'm dealing with somebody else, I have to address them in a different way. And that's just, and gay people do this for a long time. Communists had to do this in a very long time.

And black people had to do this. Mulattoes, this has happened in the 1920s, the Harlem Renaissance. These are things that you have to study and figure out. And here's the other thing. Because they're not bright, they're very big on picking up words. That's why the term for African-American used to be Afro-American and then previous ones, which I don't even know if I can say anymore. The point is they kept changing these terms because they would know

as they roll out the new term, if you're using a new language, you're part of the in-group. So it's very easy. Just adopt their language when you need to to pass and it'll be like Terminator. They see you use the right terms, they'll leave you alone and move on, and then you can just go about your business. And it's not easy to do, but they've had a long long they're playing long con and they've had over 100 years at this

that's so my my my understanding of this stuff having been in for like 10 years you're right i've i've talked with some activists and made some points legitimate points based on their own ideology and caused people on facebook to back down and apologize notably like there was an argument a legitimate political argument that i was having on Facebook. This was like a year or two ago where one person was basically talking about social justice and race issues and critical race theory. And I started arguing against the saying freedom, liberty, et cetera. And they were like, you don't understand when I pointed out, as everybody knows the meme that Tim Pool is actually mixed race. They immediately apologized and started arguing with me and agreeing with me

because their own ideology essentially dictated it. When I said, if it is incumbent upon the minority to define their experience with racism to white, you know, white supremacists and white privilege, then I'm requesting that you right now as a white person, hear me and recognize my opinions based on my experience. And they said, I'm so sorry, I didn't realize, I guess you're right. And so it's particularly insulting. But I said that to make a point about there. And if you truly believe this, then wouldn't you then agree with me and argue with me? And they said, actually, yeah, I will. They don't truly believe anything. They're just using they don't use

language the same way you use language. I talked about this with James Lindsay, who was on my show, you're welcome this week. They use language as a form of asserting status and dominance. At a certain point, you have to realize there's no mind there, and there's not really a point in engaging. It's just power games. What do you need power games for when you don't want to be part of the beehive? I don't want to be a part of that stupid game.

Look, I worked for nonprofits. The thing is, you are part of it. It's social order. What you're explaining, Michael, is basically from hard times. My point was, You are part of it. It's social order. And what you're explaining, Michael, is basically – No, you misunderstand. And you got to let me finish. Hard times. So my point was what we're being told to do is when we're in their system because we're behind enemy lines, we need to just speak their language. And I won't do that. I did that at nonprofits.

They said, here's how you communicate with people. I understood the sale. I understood the pitch. And there are some circumstances where – I'll put it this way. I'll be polite. I was at a bar recently and someone told me they were a huge fan of Kamala Harris. And instead of saying like, yeah, Kamala Harris is so great. I was like, I am not a fan, but I'll be polite. I don't want to, you know, get into any contentious, you know, arguments over why. And she asked me like, no, what do you

think? And I was like, Kamala Harris kept, you know, minorities kept in prison beyond their sentence to use as dollar an hour slave labor for fighting wildfires. I think that's wrong. I'm willing to say it i get it's going to offend their delicate sensibilities but i don't i don't i don't i don't care to do that but what's the upside of engaging with this person um i want to keep out any specific details but there was okay that's different okay but i'm saying in general if there's someone at a bar they're like i love kamala harris unless you're trying to take her to bed it's just like okay lady i don't care what you think no but there's issues at a bar and they're like, I love Kamala Harris, unless you're trying to take her to bed, it's just like, okay, lady, I don't care what you think.

No, but there's instances of business relationships. That's very different. That's very different. Where you're talking to someone and trying to figure out if you can work with someone. And if they come out and say these things, my simple answer is, I'm not going to do business. I think the behind enemy lines metaphor makes me think of hard times make strong men. When you're in a desperate fighting for survival situation, you have to use their language. And we don't have that in this society because we haven't been in hard times so we're like you know i'm not going to play that

game but it's like this is a fight for our lives this is this daily grind is real and people are dying on the street people's houses are getting burned and that's just in the united states yeah i don't know if this is true or not but i remember being told when i was a kid the symbol of the fish where it came from and there's a bunch of you know jesus fishing yeah yeah there's stories about like jesus and two fish and then there's the dawning of the age of pisces i thought that was dr seuss what one fish two fish but what someone told me is that what they would do is because christians were were persecuted when they met someone they would draw a curved line in front of them and if the other other person finished a curved line, it would make the shape of a fish.

And they knew that it was safe to talk to them about what they believed. I don't know if that's actually true or not. I just was told that by some religious folk when I was like very young about how it was like they had to keep this a secret. And so they would draw the fish symbol between each other. And that's like it's an interesting idea of what you were mentioning about what people have to do to learn and navigate systems where they're basically outgrouped and threatened and they could be destroyed and and also there's a huge asymmetry between cost cost and benefit you know what i mean like the benefit of this person is very low but the cost could be your life so you really need to figure out how to do the dance i mean for me i'm gonna mind my own business and i'm going to keep speaking how i want to speak

and i'm gonna tell everyone to f off and then if they come for me you know what i don't know whatever that could work it comes to the point where YouTube's like you can no longer say that like Tim Pool, you know, you can. It is now banned to defend Kyle Rittenhouse. I'll be like, I'm banned. Yeah. Twitch did it. Twitch did it. You literally can't defend Kyle Rittenhouse on Twitch.

Is that right? So we had Destiny on the show and he's a leftist. And we had a debate. He's very much into critical race theory. He was banned from the partner program for defending Kyle Rittenhouse. He's a leftist guy. And he said it was the clearest case of self-defense I've ever seen. They banned him from the partner program.

Well, Twitch is owned by Amazon, and Amazon runs the servers for Twitter. So maybe we'll see some Twitter activity in that vein. But I'm also very hopeful that now that so many people are aware of what Amazon's power is in this context. You think of Amazon as products. You don't think of it as running servers and booting off Gab. What was the other one? Parler. Parler.

Parler. That there already, I'm sure, are people in place who are like, okay, we need to create workarounds so Amazon can never do this again. Yeah. And it's just going to be a matter of a couple of years at most, in my opinion. Oh, yeah. I would love a decentralized. Yeah. But it's just going to be a matter of a couple of years at most, in my opinion. Oh, yeah. I would love a decentralized. Yeah. But I mean, we're talking about doing it.

Am I wrong that there's lots of people who are trying to work? No, you're right about that. Yeah. How about we go to Super Chats, my friends? If you haven't already, smash that like button. Seriously, do it. It helps. If you're listening on iTunes or Spotify, leave us a good review.

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the youtube will send us that gold gold award which and then we'll be banned in a month but we'll see yes all right thing smash that like button let's read these super chats let's see what y'all got saying what y'all got going on what y'all got saying what do they like best about me there you go uh please everyone super chat what you like uh best about michael malice that is important uh you know i got a bunch of emails from people that said what I like best about Michael Malice is, and we actually hired a guy because of it. Good.

I hope he had a good answer. He did have a good answer. What was his answer? I don't remember. That it wasn't good. No, it was. You'd remember it if it was good. But it was also interesting that many of these people saw you tweet this.

You know, so for those that don't understand the context, there was a – I think you referenced someone we should hire. I recommended it. His username is LockoutDays on YouTube. And then you said the email better say what I like best about Michael Malice is. And then I said if we don't see that, we throw it in the trash as a joke. And then we got a small handful of people who were paying attention. So I was like – Attention to detail is extremely underrated in terms of hiring being

active in a conversation and if someone's being i hate this word being proactive about like well just in case he asked this question let me give him an answer that's someone who's ahead of the game absolutely yeah i mean they were paying attention so i was like that that shows this these these are you people who are likely active in the space they know what's going on they're following similar people. It's a good sign. All right. Let's read some super chats.

I need to drink more water. Oh, yeah. Spencer Prudholm says, Tim, I'm still waiting on my tinfoil hat shirt. Any news when it comes out? Man, I am just dropping the ball on this one. The tinfoil hat. I'm a gorilla. Oh, yeah.

I'll get it. I'll get it done. What you can do is go to maliceshirts.com and get my COVID positive shirt. Really? Can you do me a favor and write down tinfoil hat gorilla so I remember? I will write this down. I have the tinfoil hat in my house. Alex Jones' tinfoil. Yeah, it's in the kitchen.

So we have a version of the gorilla wearing a tinfoil hat. And we're going to make a – probably do it as like a limited edition. I think the diamond hands gorilla will be going away soon as well. The I Am A Gorilla will be around forever. But I think the special versions will only leave up for like a month or so. I'm part of meme history. Meme history. Let's give a shout out to the guy who made that video, Pink Trip.

Which one was that? The I Am A Gorilla video. When he made a little video of you and me and Alex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to use that as an ad to promote the show on YouTube and run that as an ad. Like watch this. Have people confused like, I guess I'll click it. I don't know what to do. Those videos are great by the ad. Like, watch this. Yeah. Have people confused. Like, I guess I'll click it.

I don't know what to do. Those videos are great, by the way. Yeah, they are. I love that stuff. All right, let's read some more. He's never made one of me, though. The Curly Afro says, just like the states that paid blood and treasure to enter the Union, so did Puerto Rico. For 104 years, we have paid the price of admission.

We earned statehood. Statehood, por favor. By the way, apes together strong. Hey, there you go. That's true all right a lot of people some people shout out tom mcdonald would love to have him on the show we'll see if that happens make 1984 fiction again he says your four o'clock segment i mostly agreed with but he was a criminal despite the fact that he was he was a drug addict being addicted to

drugs is not a disease it's a choice i was addicted to opiates for eight years my brother for years and he's no longer with us i just think i hear what you're saying i think okay it's a crime fine but when you get detained it should be like we're bringing you to a clinic we're not going to put you in a cell and we're not going to take away your rights we want to make sure we can help you get through this you know what i mean and i know this argument but it's not an always an informed choice like you don't know none of us in this room i can't speak for you guys none of us know but it's not always an informed choice. Like you don't know. None of us in this room, I can't speak for you guys. None of us know what it's like to go through withdrawal from heroin. So you might know theoretically, okay, withdrawal really sucks.

But unless you've like, here's a parallel example that's not going to be as political. Unless you've had to deal with suicidal ideation, you're not going to understand what that feels like. I mean, God forbid, I hope none of you ever had to deal with that. Go ahead. And I have to interject here because I worked in a cardiac unit and I worked with people who were withdrawing from multiple different drugs, including alcohol. They actually closed down a ward close to my house because too many babies were being born there that were already addicted to heroin.

You don't know what hand you're dealt. You don't know what people are dealing with. And past a certain point, it is a physiological dependency. Yeah. We got a very, very important super chat here from Jem R. Wow. Serious stuff. He says, for malice.

Looking dapper. Enjoyed his chat with James Lindsay recently, too. Looking dapper, Michael. Thank you. Very dapper. Oh, I love it. MK Painter says, Michael, tell me your best radio-free Armenia joke. Is that going to get us in trouble or what is that?

I don't know what that means. I'm not from Ukraine. Radio-free Armenia. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be... I don't know what that means. Socratic Disciple says, Tim, your idea about preventing people

from funding candidates outside their district is flawed. Just give money to a relative who lives in that area and have them make the donation for you. Aha, but that is actually a felony. Yeah, if you try to donate to a relative who lives in that area and have them make the donation for you. Aha. But that is actually a felony. Yeah. If you try to donate to a candidate, if you donate to a candidate, and then I'm like, okay, now we'll give Ian money. Now Ian can do it. It's called a felony.

Isn't that what happened to Dinesh D'Souza? It happens to a lot of people because basically the limit's pretty low or it was. And then it's like. Yeah. So if it's 2,800, I'll just find, I'd be a bundler or whatever. I think this is what they were doing. I'll find 10 people. I'll write out the $28,000 check and just put down their names. So this was a workaround, but this is not something that they got away with. Yeah, no,

it's a crime to do that. So I definitely think, like, I think the gist of the conversation, especially after sleeping on it, we talked about it. My current position is I do think it's a problem that a handful of billionaires can suppress the will of so many people. I just don't know what the solution is because it's way too much of a complicated problem. Let's have a long conversation

if I ever come on because this is something that is very complicated and I don't know that there is an alternative. And I don't know that the millions of people have a will.

Ooh, spicy. I'm turned off by popularity contests. Especially when it comes to running the show especially because i keep losing them you'll win michael aj says hey tim first time super chatter look into smartlands cryptocurrency built off the stellar platform right on des says told my friend i got red pilled last summer out of curiosity he

googled it and thought i became a misogynist and white supremacist despite being Mexican. Where's the lie? Yeah. That was the article. No lies detected. I mean, that's why I don't like saying red-pilled. I just say, you know, a realization. Man, I realized the media wasn't telling me the truth.

It's an easy way to put it. And a red-pill. That's not the same as a red-pill, though. Well, how would you describe it? Being red-pilled. Let me see if i can quote my book accurately being red pilled is the realization that is what is presented by fact by the corporate press isn't is in actuality a carefully designed narrative and meant to keep some very unpleasant people in power yeah butter's oregano says two things malice needs a beanie that matches his tie hold on

hold on hold on what is this you get a super chat and you get two things one thing per chat you guys got the wallets open them up

he says Malice needs a beanie that matches his tie and the difference between a fiscal elite using their money to buy advertisements and someone watching your show

is the choice to watch your show versus being forced to visually imbibe the propaganda. Okay. Orion Nero says, how far do you guys believe they'll try pushing the censorship nonsense? Who could say what when they're eating each other alive for the power?

As far as they can. Yeah, Crowder didn't break any rules. The only thing that stops it is going to be a counterpower. That's just inertia. Yeah, I think you're right about that. Yeah, that's another. Why wouldn't they? They're clearly totalitarian in their worldview.

Like, they make no bones about it. Any country, if something bad is happening anywhere on Earth, it's somehow their business. So there's no limits. What? We got a big super chat? It's not a big one. It's just one of the best. Is it Adrian? Hi, Adrian.

Bug HQ for us says, I own a cricket farm in NC named Bug HQ. Please check us out for your reptile food guys. Tim, I'd love to send you some free crickets for Chicken City. It's fun to watch them attack a few hundred. Absolutely. We will be reaching out to you, Bug HQ. Why would you want to pay those exorbitant cricket prices for something the farmer probably spit in? What?

That's a fair point. That was an old Simpsons joke about orange juice. Crickets are so expensive. The farmer probably spit in. Oh, man. Back when Simpsons were good? Yeah. That was when there was a plague that hit Springfield.

The Osaka Fluid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The juicer. Yeah. Graf von Tirol says, it's a complete disgrace that we're more likely to get more matter-of-fact news about America from British and Australian news sources. Is that true?

But why is that a disgrace? I'm going to, okay, this triggered me a little bit. You are being blue-pilled. It's like when the guy's a player and he tells the girl, I'm not a player, baby. I just want to get to know you of course the corporate press is going to tell you we're honest we're here to tell you the news about america why would you believe them at face value good question i'm sorry i just i

just saw a super chat like i'm just losing it all right pops vindaloo says rabbit butt cut what we were talking about rabbits eating their own poo. Butt cut. And so he super chatted rabbit butt cut. RBC. Oh, man. Rabbits are gross. They're not easy to care for.

A lot of people think they are. And they're not friendly. No, they're not. And they're always panicky. Skittish. Amy Sedaris is always into rabbits as pets. All right. Let's see.

I can't. This is in Cyrillic. I think I can't read it. I know how to read it. It says you will die in a fiery plane crash. E-R-N, backwards N, backwards N. A-N-E-K. I can't read it when you're reading in English. What is this?

Helen. Backwards R. That means yeah. A circle with a line through it. I'm kidding. I don't know. So they say, and it says rubles. What insane historical trivia will we get today from Michael?

Maybe some opinions on Batco Machno. Machno? Musla? I don't know. M-A-C what? M-A-K-H-N-O. H-Mach-Batco? Batco?

I'd have to see it. I only learned how to read russian in college so i i'm very bad at it well they just wasted their rubles no there you go jmax says i had opioids prescribed to me for back pain following a military work accident your body starts to build a resistance to the prescribed amount and it feels like you have to take more just to ease the pain i had to stop taking them just to spare my body permanent damage wise move i was i was given percocets i took one and it was just like floating on a cloud man it's like you said it was like methadone once this is not an endorsement of taking no no no i'm telling you this is the danger

of taking percocet story and so i said the pains i'd rather have the pain absolutely you're good here's the thing you're gonna have the pain now or you're gonna have it later so you'd rather pay the little pain now short term than the years of paying on that mortgage yep and hey thc and medical marijuana is such a blessing i think that this country has yet to fully adopt but it also is a painkiller it's like a natural homeopath what do you know about weed i've heard about it check this out i read about it hey this is a really important point uh someone brought up a super chat. We didn't get to. I did mention this on my four o'clock segment.

The purpose of pleading the fifth could be because he sold the drugs that could possibly have caused the overdose overdose death of George Floyd. Oh, sure. He could be charged with manslaughter, especially if there's an acquittal of Chauvin. That actually is third degree murder. I believe if you. So I read through the laws. It says if you supply someone with a substance, a controlled substance that results in their death, it's a murder charge. He pled the fifth

because the defense is going for he died from the overdose and they were probably going to be like, and he did it. I'm not a lawyer. None of us are, but I'm going to just throw this out there because this is something I thought was pretty standard practice. You plead the fifth. What happens when they give you immunity? Can't they force you to testify? Yep. So this might just have been a pause, right? So they'll offer him immunity, and then he'll be forced. He'll be subpoenaed, forced to testify.

And then the defense will say, did you sell him these drugs? And then he'll look to the jury and say, reasonable doubt. By the way, I also want to point out this speaks to the anarchist idea that equality under the law is a complete lie because if there was equality in the law there's no such thing as forcing someone to testify because you can't acquit them of a crime just because you want to get somebody else yeah everyone has to be tried or no one right gray gian giannicos first super chat might as well be on my birthday happy birthday gray the province of bc has decided to down indoor dining, so my family business in a town of 4,000 people has to pay for the rise in case numbers, predominantly in the big

cities. P.S. Trevor sucks. Who's Trevor? He sucks. Yeah, he's the worst. That's what I heard. I just now heard that.

Yes. Trevor. Oh, God. I don't want everyone to hear his name again. I'm going to read the super chat. Creep me out. I i'm gonna read the super chat out i'm gonna read the super chat that's your job but you might not be happy about it well then you'll be very unhappy about it oh yeah yeah i'm reading it anyway eric miller says so michael you say we didn't deserve donald trump now do we deserve joe biden okay oh god eric god help me you're right you're right

you're right i'm sure no no I didn't read the last part. I'm saving that. Okay. I didn't say. Okay. God damn it, Eric. You're worse than Trevor. All right.

You ready for the last? I don't think I am. Also love the Clark Kent look you got going on. I don't know what he's talking about. Yeah. I don't get that either. Yeah. I don't get that part.

My quote, which Tim has picked up on very well and lydia as well and i'm assuming ian is whenever i have a trump tweet or now he's the press releases i say we don't deserve him that could be read as he's awful or like we don't deserve this or that he's awesome and it's intentionally both because he is awful in many ways and he is awesome in other ways. There you go. All right. Alex Moore says – And no, we don't deserve a president or any government.

I like that. Well, you do. You do. What's his name? Alex? Eric. Eric. Eric.

You're worse than Trevor. You deserve Gitmo. Snap. Governors2Gitmo.com. All right. Alex Moore says, this Super Chat is for your members-only rant on not backing down last night. It was absolutely awesome. When does the dating site kick off i don't think we're gonna make a 10 cast dating site but uh yeah i got mad i was yelling i was just like i'm so sick of i growing

up in chicago and seeing people just abuse and beat it's just like it's very much just like a superhero movie where you watch the villain beating down the poor people and the hero comes in and he makes him stop and i'm like nah dude there's no superheroes here there's one villains are real but the superheroes are only on tv that means you have to stand up to these people and if everybody did things would be different it'd be very different if people were just brave enough okay first of all i think that I think that's my favorite thing I've heard you say today. And I'm going to build on that to another point. I've given a couple of talks to young kids about networking. And one of my favorite pieces of advice to give them, I say, if you know someone is having

their birthday and they're not doing anything, take them out for dinner and do it for selfish reasons. And the audience laughs and I go, I'm serious because the guy who takes people out for their birthday is awesome. You could be that person. All it's costing you is 30 bucks, 40 bucks. You have that power. Maybe you're not gonna be literally Superman,

but you could still be a better version of yourself. And when you're a better version of yourself, happiness and success follows and everyone has that capacity. Almost, except for Trevor. He's garbage. I know. Isn't he the worst?

I read that. Look, there's only a few people who would ever live up to the strength of Superman. You know what I mean? There's just like a small— Very few. Very few. Supergirl, Dev M, Bizarro, Streaky, Comet, the Super Horse. I just mean figuratively.

Mono. Figuratively. Some people, they try to claim or masquerade, perhaps, as someone as great as Superman. But they're deceivers and manipulators and liars. Every once in a while, you get one person. You sound like Martin Luther. And they're lies. Lies. one person. You sound like Martin Luther. And there are lies.

Well, I'll just tell you this, man. You gotta be careful about the false superheroes, you know? Who brandish themselves as the symbols of the heroes. You mean Sully? Sully? The failed Mahamrata? I don't know. The pilot. Oh, that's right. He couldn't fly the plane. He wanted to fly into the Empire State Building

and he had to land into a river. East River. Alright. that's right right he couldn't fly the plane he wanted to fly into the empire stale building and he had to land into a river east river all right yes i see and he's a stutterer some people call me dim fool which is always uh it's always original and unique sunny james says i'd love to argue about cultural issues but i beg you tim or michael please do a segment on bio surveillance and the powerful interests involved in backing tsa 2.0, the new fake war on germs. Oh, that's a great topic. That was a great topic. Thank you. I mean, it's a long, long conversation.

We'd have to do some research. But this is very smart. This is next-gen totalitarianism. I would like to watch you guys with Ben Stewart talk about that. He has a lot of research on that. Have you ever talked with Jimmy Dore? Have you done a show with him uh we follow each other um i've slid into his dms no reply jimmy's jimmy's a good dude i know i'm a fan um i've i've talked

to him periodically i've been on his show i just that must be nice yeah well you know see us uh us you know people up here in the clouds you mean mean like me and Jordan? Sometimes don't. I call him Jordan now. Sorry, dim fool. No time for this. He's sitting. Get all those beanies off your bed, asshole. I love Pim Tool and Dim Fool because it's like

You know what the best of those is? Trottle Dump. Someone said that. I'm like, oh my god, this is actually clever. But you know what the best of those is trottle dump someone said that i'm like oh my god this is actually clever but you know what you know it's funny to me like when i see people tweet pimp tool or dim fool or whatever or tim pool is a dim fool it's just like seeing chickens cluck you know what i mean it's clever there's like there's like you didn't say a thing to me right but i think it's that's very tongue-in-cheek and kind of ribbing you it's not serious right no a lot of the pimp Tool one is serious.

Okay, but the Dim Fool is clearly fans of the show who are ribbing with you. No, no, no. It's the left who started. I thought that was because of my knock-knock joke. I think it was. Oh, it's been on for a long time. Dim Fool, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, I thought it was my joke. Okay, I'm telling you a lot of those people are taking it for my joke. Oh, I think it's hilarious. It makes me laugh every time I see it. Yeah, your barrel laughs tim yeah i i don't understand um i don't understand what it is about these like these leftists who when they come at me on twitter or they try and insult me that i think you know i'm gonna stop it's clear they're just saying it so their friends see it because it impacts me and like it's sometimes they trust you i i of all people know what you mean because i get that too and i'm just like what do you nothing. Sometimes they trust you. I, of all people, know what you mean.

Because I get that too. And I'm just like, what do you think this, when people tell you like, sit down and shut up. I'm like, literally, what do you think this is going to accomplish on Twitter? You're not in my house. I am sitting down. I'm in my underwear all the time. So how are you in a position to tell me to shut up? But it's a net positive.

So when I first started getting Twitter followers and stuff during Occupy Wall Street. My initial reaction in the first week or so was anxiety. No joke. I had never had this level of attention. All of a sudden, people were tweeting at me like crazy, insulting me and calling me crazy things. Half of them were nice. Half of them were bad. And I was like, what is this?

And then very quickly, I was like, these people are dumb. And I started ignoring it. They're bees. But then a week or two later, I started getting excited every time I saw it. You know why? Because you were sexually attracted to bees. Yeah. I was just like, wow, this is great.

Because every single time these people were tweeting at me, I started to realize I was like, man, am I doing something important? Right. Like, am I all of a sudden one of these people that like- Am I an influencer? Yeah. You're like, wow. Yeah.

I started realizing that hate didn't matter because it doesn't change my opinions. Right. It just means that my opinions matter to people. You can read the love and the hate as like a social study and not to take either of them personally. It can blow your ego up or rip it down if you let it take it personally. Don't. But just look at the waves of emotions that are occurring and then kind of incorporate that into how you're behaving and try and modulate. People ask me sometimes how I deal with it. And I don't think I'm good at

dealing with it in this sense, because being a New Yorker all my life, if a homeless person comes up to you and starts screaming things, even if those insults are things you might be insecure about or true, it's not going to permeate. Your only thought in your mind is I have to get away from this homeless person before it escalates or I don't care this case. So if someone comes at you on Twitter and says, blah, blah, blah, it's just like, I didn't know you existed three seconds ago. You don't like me. That's fine. Like you don't,

I'm not for everyone. Go live your best life. And I don't, why would you think I would care? Yeah, I was thinking about playing a song with different qualities of instruments. Like maybe you need the right quality of instrument to really appreciate the music.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a great metaphor like a theremin yeah conti says i'm in the military and now being told that if i own any cryptocurrency i need to sell it or risk or or risk losing my security clearance same with marijuana stocks i find that to be ridiculous it's not ridiculous if you're signing up for the military they own you yeah man so it's not ridiculous at all so ghost signing up for the military, they own you. Yeah, man. So it's not ridiculous at all. So Ghost Crusaders says, Tim, PayPal can snap their fingers

and end your career. Very much. That's absolutely true. Yep. And so what I try- Many horror stories. But so your banking institutions can and these other platforms can.

What I'm saying is we need to minimize the links in the chain because if you have 10 different services, any one of them, so you're creating more risk. So minimize that risk. Or I mean, to be pedantic, you want to maximize the links. So if one link breaks, you've got 80 backup links. You want to maximize the amount of chains.

Yeah, yeah. Different links. So what I'm saying is, if you have a business. Right, right, right. Not one. Yeah. Where you upload to three channels, then you've got, you know, all of these different companies. I guess I should say. It's not necessarily a good analogy if you're on locals then it's you two locals yes

and then you have your payment processor and then locals has dns the problem is that with each and every person resting in the basket of patreon locals or subscribe store or any of these platforms it's putting weight on their chain between their services and at any point they might be like we gotta we gotta you know toss some people out of the out of the bucket otherwise we go down with everyone else minimize that so that there's one chain with a bunch of people dangling evenly and everything's fine well one person might get thrown out by somebody else but i just want to minimize who has control over over over this i hardly endorse this product or event all right let's see where we're at.

Jay Stewart says, Tim, by banning people, they divide how much support they can receive. Corporations can work together and provide a cheap central location for access. But if people want to support you and Crowder, the cost has suddenly doubled. Well, how much are you willing to

put forward to defend the ideas that you like or the shows that you like? I mean, there are people who spend just without even thinking about it. They're probably spending $100 between their Disney+, their Netflix, their Hulu, and, you know, Paramount or whatever, CBS. All these different things, $10, $15. How much are you willing to spend for independent channels? I think one of the problems is, and this is why we want to do shows. Someone says it's $10 a month to be a member of TimCast.com for this one show.

And then it's $10 a month for Mug Club and then it's $10 a month. Now it's like I want five shows and it costs me $100, whereas I can get 300 shows from one Netflix or from one Prime or whatever. So that's why I'm like we need to have as many shows as possible under TimCast.com membership. So we're going to have shows. We're going to have documentaries. I as possible under you know timcast.com membership so we're gonna have shows we're gonna have documentaries i'm gonna hire some reporters we're gonna get writers and we're gonna make this whole big massive thing i i what i was shocked at and this is because of my senior citizen status how many people there are who are tripping over themselves who see i guess this is kind of like at a restaurant like no one doesn't tip like it's just a given you're gonna

tip how many people and this is something happened very recently internet culture are very eager to be like i own a business i'm a stay-at-home mom it's important to me that you're taking those bullets and up front so let me give you those five bucks a month because you're saying things that i can't i didn't realize how many of those people are there and i they pay my rent and i'm very very grateful and you know this is kind of my immigrant brain if you've never met me and you're giving me that five bucks that's like buy me a drink that is such a sign of respect and i do not take it for granted and it really is very moving when i get to be that guy it is like in dragon ball z when goku needing to defeat oh i don't

know this is nerd talk summon the energy for the spirit bomb. And everyone gave their energy to Goku. $5 a piece. The one fiery blast. My Virginia just came back. I'm going to mispronounce your name again. He says, Gray Giannikos. Mispronouncing my name is a sign of racism. But hey, thanks for the extra super chat.

It's Greek, I think. I will admit to mispronouncing your name. Clayton from illinois says michael did you really mean that all cops are criminals or was that hyper hyperbolic all cops are criminals they're not all on the take they're not all corrupt but if you look at there was this footage i'm sure you probably talked about in your show tim i think it was holland or belgium where there are people in a park and there was like an older man who's maybe 70 and there's a cop running by him on horseback clubbing him over the head. And he was, why are you laughing? It's a ridiculous story. It's crazy. Oh, but I mean, it was extremely disturbing to see old people getting clubbed and his head was bashed open.

That's the good apple. The good apples aren't the ones on the take. They're the ones who smile and nod and follow orders. And many of those orders are complete crimes. So when I say all cops are criminal, if you are enforcing a law that makes someone unsafe in their home and makes them unable to fulfill their Second Amendment rights, yes, you are a criminal. All cops are criminals. This is what I find really funny. There's some guy who argues with me on Facebook who clearly doesn't watch the show. And he's like, you just keep saying the same things. Your opinion never changes.

It's just confirmation bias. And I was like. That's not what confirmation bias means anyway. There was a big change in my opinion after you said that on the show. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I've talked. I mean, my stuff on 2A has gone crazy because of the things you were saying. I'll kind of second that. I guess I'm an influencer now.

I know it feels like. So I guess you call you like a powerful social presence you you are very open to changing your mind from the time that i've known you you we'll talk about things and then i see in like two weeks you'll be like yeah you'll be have different views if it makes sense yeah and so you mentioned that your right to bear arms shall not be infringed and the police don't care and they'll oppress your right new york city and i said you're right about that and so then my opinion on 2a got pretty hey okay you know what felon gets out of prison give him his gun yeah the right shall not be infringed it doesn't say

unless you're a felon doesn't say there's a lot of things it doesn't say but is it the argument that if they don't uphold a criminal law like go take their guns away that then they have to leave the force so that just by being there they're part of a corrupt system making them criminals? Or is it only when they actually enforce the illegal law? There are so many laws that are complete crimes to enforce. I can't even get, like drug laws.

Absolutely. This is the thing, Eric Garner, when conservatives often point out that he wasn't choked, when he said, I can't breathe, I can't breathe, you know, and he died because of a heart condition. It wasn't that he was actually

physically choked by the police. Fine. The point is, if there's a man selling cigarettes and you feel comfortable walking up to him, putting your hands on him, and taking him away to a jail, you are the criminal. That's absolutely, to me, insane. Like, dude, the guy was – what do they call them, singles? Lucys. Lucys. And he goes, officers, I'm not bothering anyone.

Leave me alone. He wasn't fighting them. He was resisting in the rest of the sense that he's like i don't want to leave get your hands off me he wasn't he was huge he wasn't hitting them he wasn't putting them in danger the only person in that whole situation who went to jail was the guy who filmed it right right right right and that was crazy why did he go to jail i mean it just to me i don't want to get too conspiratorial but it it really sounded like there was retaliation. That's what it sounded like. I mean, you've seen, I'm sure you've talked about this before, but I'm sure you've seen similar things in Occupy where the journalists who are covering it, the independent journalists are the ones who are being targeted.

Oh, dude. Because they're showing things that the cathedral doesn't want. What the city of New York does, it's brilliant. They issue press credentials from the NYPD. Which is against the First Amendment. Absolutely. And then you can't get a job at many of these news outlets unless you have it. And if you get it taken away, you can't work there anymore because you can't report.

So what would happen is during the protest, the cop would be like, they would walk up to a journalist and say, if you don't leave right now, I take your pass. And they go, bye bye. And they'd leave. And then there was independent reporters like Luke Rutkowski and me. Oh, absolutely. I'm not talking to the audience. Let me just think about it.

You know, Luke, Luke Rutkowskiowski you guys know him you love him he did his video where he filmed one of the most notorious cops who would go after the press and things like that as like a nature documentary you know this guy in the wild and he would zoom in on him and he saw it and one day he's like you're the guy who made that that video about me on youtube and i was like i don't know what you're talking about but like you know you know, the regular press couldn't do these things. Right. Because they'd lose their credentials. And they're not interested

because it doesn't further their narrative. Dude, the ABC would like pull up, walk out of the van, say, okay, here's the park. Turn around and say,

we're here at the park. Here's what happened. Have a nice day. Get back in the van and leave. And that was journalism. I was at Charlottesville while it was going down and we were at Outback Steakhouse with like some of the alt-right people.

And the surreal aspect of what was a block away from us and how it was being presented on the news was such a red pill moment that you're like looking out the window. Then you're looking at the screen and it's complete disparity. That was scary to me when I was in Sweden. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. When all of the journalists aligned at the same time to claim, all of a sudden, they loved me. And in the moment, we got off the highway and turned and went straight to Rinkeby. Then they were like, uh-oh.

And then every news outlet was like, Tim Pool's a liar, a manipulator. At the same time, I was like— What's Rinkeby? It's a poor neighborhood, a Somali migrant neighborhood. And so I was very much in line with their Potemkin village. The Green Party guy walks me around. Everything's nice. We explain like, you know what?

These reports are just not true. They're exaggerated. And then I did my job. I reached out to a bunch of other people. I talked to some crazy people, some regular people, some left, some right. And we went with this one local journalist. And then abruptly, he was like, you want to go? Let's do it. Pulls off the highway highway and then all of a sudden it was like

uh-oh he's not supposed to be getting off that road and then the media just aligns like the truman show creepy it is like the truth it was creepy and we had people spying on us we had people lurking around our hotels we had to like leave all right i gotta read some more of these we got elevate fitness dallas says tim wish me happy birthday. Happy birthday. Elevate Fitness Dallas. Thanks for the super chat. James asks, I'm not sure I understand this one. He says, I love that when I came in, I see Michael Malice dressed like Clark Kent. And now at the end, he is Superman.

I love him and I love you guys. What is he talking about? You are Superman to me. You know what this is? No, no, no, no, no. It's this. This is Tim. You got trolled.

These are the April Fool's people who get in the super chats. They make you to read nonsense. And then you look like a fool. I think reading this. I know you're kind of like, like Clark. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on.

Because he's calling me a journalist. He's saying I'm one of the bad guys. Clark Kent was a newspaperman. No, this is his backdoor way of making fun of me. He's complimenting you. He's saying that in the beginning, he saw you as a regular guy and by the end of the show he realizes that you're a hero who's fighting the guy that was what i thought okay yeah that makes sense well i still think you're you're not as bad as trevor but you're pretty terrible all right we'll just read a couple

more because we just my friends i thank you all so much for the super chats we just we just have so many coming out and um all right let's guys. All right. Let's see. Patrick says, what worries you more, cancel culture or compliance culture? What's compliance culture? I guess he's saying getting banned or the people who just give in and do what they're told. I don't know what he means by worse, but in terms of which is more a threat to me, I'm in no danger of complying with anything. So it would be cancel. I don't think these things to these two things are superable at all i think they're very much compliance culture is

cancel culture being implemented i i i should say real quick we got some more super chats people i i think they're really digging your ideology they must be big fans of anarchy okay or anarchism the things they must really agree with your ideas about defunding police and police being criminals because all of a sudden they're saying things like, we got Crystal Mackey says, I walked away for one hour and suddenly your guest turns into Superman. This is what I get for walking away. I mean

clearly your ideas are resonating with the audience to where they just view you as a hero. It's been tough growing up for me being this farm boy in the middle of Kansas and now I get to be here in Springfield illinois you know with tim fool and all these other people so it's it's kind of right it's very humbling all right official jim says you opened my eyes to politics tim how would i go about trying to learn and understand more where should i start i don't know um you can

watch my show and then watch other shows. Watch Michael Malice's show. Watch people like Jimmy Dore because Jimmy will give you a more leftist perspective, but he's a real guy. He's an honest guy. Very red-pilled leftist. Yeah, absolutely. What is your like on – And he hates war. Absolutely. That's my criterion.

Are you someone who even if you're like sometimes we have to have war, do you think this is really a very mixed blessing at the best of circumstances? Or are you like we got to do it this is the big divide for me when tim when you get up in the morning what's your methodology of sourcing news like what are your first few steps i just start reading a bunch of news like do you have specific places you go bunch of different news outlets twitter so my twitter feed is a collection of left and right and mainstream news sources and so i scroll through that as soon as i wake up i'm like scrolling through all these stories did you there's a website that lets you judging by your twitter what percent is right left and center i'm

left you're left yeah mine was 30 39 41 and then 20 centrist it was but it says the news you interact yeah which means things you're making fun of as well yeah i so uh here's the issue i use news guard on purpose to make a point. And that means I'm often fact checking these certified sources and avoiding many conservative sources because NewsGuard is biased. So what ends up happening is on this thing, it says I'm interacting with more mainstream or left leaning stories. But in reality, it's just let me correct this. It was ground news says Tim Pool interacts with left wing stories. But in reality, just mainstream news sources. me correct this. It was ground news as Tim Pool interacts with left-wing stories, but in reality, it's just mainstream news sources.

So you think about what that really means. Right, right. Because I follow a lot of conservatives and I tweet a lot at conservatives about a lot of things or retweeted Ben Shapiro earlier. But the stories I tweet only come from that checkmark, which is funny. So NewsGuard, if you're listening, take into consideration about what that means about your service. The stories I interact with have to be certified by you because I'm trying to make a point.

And then it claims I'm left biased. And I have a blind spot for the right, it says. Wow. All right. One more super chat. Garhant says, Tim, I respectfully disagree with you creating a network of you. What will work is for you to form a network with people like you. Crowder, Rubin, Gadsad, Weinsteins.

That is how you win. Bigly. I'm not creating a network of me. I'm creating a network with a bunch of different shows. So I'm talking to comedians about helping them do a show. There may be a comedian who is producing anti-woke stuff or just comedy that's just not in the culture war at all. Just funny jokes. Or maybe it's offensive.

And we're going to give them an opportunity to make new content. We are going to grow. It's not going to be a network of me. It's going to be original movies with nothing to do with me we're going to make this like you get an app and you open it and there's going to be you know a show with a bunch of different people maybe we'll do a michael malice comedy special i would love to see that yeah political comedy something like that yeah have you done do you do live comedy i my first job at first trying to be creative was doing stand-up this was a very long

time ago and because i had a friend who killed himself and we basically made because we were so stressed about it we made his that night into a roast i thought to myself if i can do stand-up and get people to laugh anyone can make jokes about sex or bitches be texting whatever if you can make people joke about things like suicide then you're really talented what i learned and this is why i quit after six months the same set that kills one night will walk the room the next right and you have no control over what lands and what doesn't and that was such a uh screw my head so much i gave it up well then uh we'll see how this uh we'll see how this manifests but the idea is if you're a member at timcast.com we're

going to start producing a bunch of stuff we're probably gonna have gaming content gaming reviews we're probably gonna have definitely the vlog stuff but that'll be on youtube as well the goal is to just have a bunch of different people involved and yes you will get access to all these shows the money that you are paying as a member of timcast is going to be used to build culture that's my plan part of it will be used, hopefully soon, to start development on an open source project. We'll see exactly how we can pull it off. I think it's ambitious, but I'd like to do it. That being said, my friends, smash the like button if you have not done that already. Show your support for the show. Subscribe. And maybe soon we will break

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Sheetunderwear.com. Well, I appreciate the shows. And I got to tell you in all seriousness, this is made by an Iraq war vet. Oh, cool. And it's independent businessman. So I'm glad. I love being able to promote a product that- Is it made in America? I was made in the ukraine where does it say yeah designed in america designed

and the thing is if it's camo it makes your junk even more invisible yeah i think it protects you from sharks right maybe not that particular underwear i don't make any false all right i i was talking to him. I'm like, I wonder if I'm going to be able to pull this off. And you set me up perfectly. Yeah. Oh, no, no. In all seriousness, the Anarchist Handbook is going to be done in the next couple of weeks.

And that will be out. And I'm sure I can come back and talk about it. You know, I would like to point out how cut you look. Oh, yes. Very ripped. I like what you've done with the body. Thank you, sir. Very muscular.

I'm going to cut. For a 63-year-old, it's impressive. Yeah. It's looking good. You're toeing the line. Adrenochrome. Oh, the body. Thank you, sir. Very muscular. For a 63-year-old, it's impressive. Yeah, you're toeing the line. Adrenochrome. No, no, no. Not just a clever myth. All right. Yeah, you guys can also follow me at IanCrossland.net, which is my website.

And you can find my... It's not that Boy Scout nonsense. I tried. That other guy. I waited to buy.com for a few months after I started making YouTube videos and someone snagged it. So don't wait. Don't hesitate.

Or if you hate someone, buy their domain name and forward it. I've done that trick several times. Listen to the man. I love it. I love it. The Superman. Michael is the master troll and I love having him on. I have two things to say.

I want to wish a happy birthday to my pal Brenda. Her birthday is today, April Fool's Day. Her dad must have been shocked when her mom was in the hospital. He's like, no, I don't believe it. Hal Brenda. Her mom leaves today. April Fool's Day. Her dad must have been shocked when her mom was in the hospital. He's like, no, I don't believe it. And the second is that I figured out the mystery of what this term was that this hire liked so much about Michael Malice. It was when Michael Malice explained to Lex Friedman what tits or GTF-1 means. So there you go.

That sounded like Lex Luthor. I'm more of a brainiac, please. He doesn't laugh, though. Lex Friedman. That's true. He doesn't. So that solved that mystery. I'm very happy that I could help.

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