Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #257 - Black Nationalist Farrakhan Follower ATTACKS US Capitol, One Cop Dies w/Julie Borowski

Episode Date: April 3, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join author, YouTuber, and libertarian commentator Julie Borowski to discuss news of a black extremist, the issue of division in the US, the desire for conflict that people seem to... have, the absence of family, mental health challenges people, especially women, face, and CNN's choice to say that biological s** cannot be definitively determined at birth.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Earlier today, a man drove through the barricades in the Capitol. He killed a cop. He got shot, hit a knife. And, you know, all of this is still relatively breaking news. They're saying they believe it's not terror related, though many journalists are expressing skepticism. Not that it is or isn't, but that isn't it a bit too soon? And now we're getting information on the suspect, apparently a black nationalist. And that is from the New York Times. This is not just my opinion. They said that this man was a proponent
Starting point is 00:00:29 of the Nation of Islam, a follower of Farrakhan, a vocal supporter, and they mentioned this is a black nationalist movement. Apparently he had posted something on Instagram or Facebook that indicated he was very much a leftist identitarian. And I'm not surprised this kind of thing is happening. But I'm still a bit unsurprised that they're going to try and downplay the politics on this one because things have already been a bit chaotic in terms of left-right culture war. And the establishment seems to be very much deferential to and protective of leftist extremism, as we've seen. So we're going to talk about all this, and it's very heavy stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:07 We do have a bunch of other stories. Things are getting crazy in Crimea. I mean, this is just, it's a heck of a Friday, right, guys? Joining us today is author, commentator, founder of Liberty Junkies, Julie Borowski. Hello. Do you want to just give a really short, quick introduction? Hi, my name is Julie Borowski. I'm a commentator, an author, and owner of LibertyJunkies.com.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I'm also on YouTube, Julie Borowski. Cool, right on. And we got Ian Chiltern. Yes, hello everyone. Thank you, Tim. Ian Crossland over here. Hi, everyone. Oh, yeah. And you have me in the corner, pushing buttons as always.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Zara Patch Lids. Lydia, technically. You know, normally we open and it tends to be more humorous and jokey and we let it dry draw draw it a little bit but uh you know coming up here we always go through the day trying to figure out what we're going to talk about and what the stories are and what's interesting and then you get something like what happens today and it's it's scary stuff I mean in any circumstance if somebody crashed a car and and you know, got into it with cops, we probably wouldn't talk about that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:02:08 But this is hyperpolitical in a hyperpolarized space. And there's just so much to go through. There's the establishment Democrat leftist type saying, clearly, this was a white male. It's exactly why Mitch McConnell was wrong. They should have doubled down security. And then you got all these demands for more security. So it's just going to get rough. Before we get started, I want you to consider one very important thing.
Starting point is 00:02:28 First, go to TimCast.com, become a member. And YouTube absolutely frowns upon these kinds of conversations. It is this kind of conversation that got me axed on Facebook. No joke. When everything went down on January 6th, I did a video just basically saying, here's what's happening. And they told me, you're out and you're not allowed back in. And I, okay, I guess.
Starting point is 00:02:51 But if I'm going to report the news, I'm going to report the news. I didn't say anything against the rules. They just don't want that kind of conversation. So it's very likely YouTube does not appreciate this either. This is reality. When news happens, news gets reported. But YouTube wants to be the foofy, family-friendly, you know, basketball-dunking Minecraft website. I'm sorry, that's just not reality. And so long as we're able to, we'll talk about this stuff. So go to TimCast.com, become a member, and you'll get
Starting point is 00:03:13 access to exclusive members-only segments from the show. Last night, we did basically a full bonus episode with Michael Malice. He wanted to talk about success, you know, where we're going, and advice. And it was a really interesting philosophical conversation, probably gave a bunch of very, very important advice, you know, both from Michael. I think everybody had something to add. If you want to learn the secrets to success and hear our philosophies, our ethos, become a member, check out that segment. And don't forget to like, share, subscribe, hit that notification bell. All right, we're getting serious now. This is the story from the New York Times. Suspect in Capitol attack appears to have been a follower of Louis Farrakhan.
Starting point is 00:03:50 For those that aren't familiar, he is the leader of the Nation of Islam, who has repeatedly promoted anti-Semitism. The suspect, Noah R. Green, 25, was identified by two law enforcement officials and a congressional official. He was from Indiana and died of being shot by Capitol Police. On Facebook, Mr. Green had posted speeches and articles written by Mr. Farrakhan and Elijah Muhammad, who led the Nation of Islam from 1934 to 1975, that discussed the decline of America. Two law enforcement officials confirmed that the Facebook page, which was taken down on Friday, had belonged to Mr. Green. Mr. Green posted on Facebook about his personal struggles,
Starting point is 00:04:25 especially during the pandemic. Quote, To be honest, these past few years have been tough, and these past few months have been tougher. I have been tried with some of the biggest unimaginable tests of my life. I am currently now unemployed, and I left my job partly due to afflictions. He also spoke on Facebook about the end times and the Antichrist. On March 17th, he posted a photo of a donation he made to the Norfolk, Virginia chapter of the Nation of Islam, along with a video of Farrakhan's speech entitled The Divine Destruction of America. Later that day, he encouraged his friends to join him in studying the teachings of Farrakhan and Mr. Muhammad. The Nation of Islam is a black nationalist movement that has advocated African-American self-sufficiency. All right, I've got a thread
Starting point is 00:05:01 pulled up from Andy Ngo, who's dug in a little bit to who this guy is and some of the things he said. And I want to point out something. The way the New York Times is quoting this guy as if we're going to look at his statements not that long ago. It was a police officer who was paraphrasing what a mass shooter had said. And he lost his job basically for this. He was attacked. They accused him of placating this evil man. Why is the New York Times, what's with the double standard? We get it though. We see the double standard all the time. The mainstream establishment,
Starting point is 00:05:36 corporate press, and politicians are deferential to left-wing extremism. They would come out in seconds condemning this and saying everything you'd expect them to say, terror, ban guns, all that stuff. If this actually was a white person, as we've often seen this time, though, many of these people did come out. They did say that now they're going to become very quiet that we're learning now that we're learning who the suspect is. That's exactly what happened with Boulder, in fact. Now, Andy Ngo posts about the suspect here, and I just want to point out a couple other things. He says, in his last Instagram post before the attack, he wrote,
Starting point is 00:06:15 the U.S. government is the number one enemy of black people. We are very much seeing leftist identitarianism, and it's reaching extreme levels. When it comes to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, we've long seen what I refer to as blunt force. very much seeing leftist identitarianism and it's reaching extreme levels. When it comes to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, we've long seen what I refer to as like blunt force extremism in that the attacks they engaged in weren't the most violent, most violent or most lethal, but they were consistent and there were several instances of them. So when these riots start and they burn down buildings and they cause massive destruction, the loss of life is extensive across the country. But the media, as I mentioned, deferential. When it comes to these mass shooters, these are high-profile, very acute instances where everyone's attention is just grabbed instantly.
Starting point is 00:07:00 So when you're dealing with endless antifa and Black Lives Matter violence, but on average, you know, they're punching people and they're beating people, that stuff doesn't become national news. Now, as things become hyperpolarized, this may be a one-off. And hopefully this is just some sick man and that's the end of it. But it may be that things are going to get even worse from this. I know, maybe it's a bit pessimistic for me to say, but I can already see the demands that we ban guns over this, that we reinstate security around the Capitol, lock it
Starting point is 00:07:30 down, send to the National Guard. Now, a lot of these people were saying this before they realized this shooter was actually a black nationalist. But we have this tweet from Rep. Ilhan Omar. She said the death toll would have been worse if the assailant had an AR-15 instead of a knife. She's completely unrelated to what happened. But there's already efforts from many people to weaponize this. So I don't know what you guys think. It's always hard to kind of segue into a conversation where we're dealing with such serious news topics and, you know, kind of this hyperpolarization. But I suppose considering, you know, we've all talked about this. I'm curious your thoughts, Julie, on the hyperpolarization, the conflict,
Starting point is 00:08:07 the security state, and, you know, we've all talked about this. I'm curious your thoughts, Julie, on the hyperpolarization, the conflict, the security state and, you know, everything's been going on. Sure. I think there's absolutely a double standard. You know, a few weeks ago when that guy who happened to be white shot up the Atlanta spas, people automatically said, oh, this is a white supremacist terrorist. Maybe we don't know, but they were quick to jump on that. We don't really know his intentions maybe he was a sex addict we don't know if it was asian or not asian if it's just like him going after these women for being women and tempting him we don't know but as soon as he did it it was like white supremacist terrorist but now this guy who is we know is a nation of islam which is a black supremacist very racist group. Everyone thinks they're racist.
Starting point is 00:08:46 That's not a controversial thing. This guy went to the Capitol with a knife. He killed a police officer. And they're saying, oh, there's no terrorism. We see no evidence of terrorism. It's been a few hours, people. What did you have to investigate that? Spend a few minutes, maybe.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah. They're just like well he was islam he was the nation of islam guys so therefore it's not terrorism we don't want to like offend people you know we don't want to say you know make people uncomfortable it's like come on it's a few hours you know what's interesting is uh when when that when that tragedy happened in atlanta the i believe it was the police i not sure, they said it wasn't race related, right? So here's what I find interesting. They came out and said, no, no, it wasn't. He was a sex addict. Two of the victims were white. But even you point out, we don't really know. We need an investigation. A lot of people on the left immediately said it was a race thing. Even when the police come out and say it's not now, I know, well, maybe it's a bit unfair for
Starting point is 00:09:46 me to say this, but I'll speculate and I'd be willing to bet on this. The left is immediately going to change their tune and say it wasn't terror. It was a disturbed young man. And that's the game they'll play unless they want to ban guns. You know, I think it's ridiculous that Ilhan Omar was like, what if he had a gun? What if he had a tank? I don't know. It's ridiculous. This is a tragedy. You can speculate whatever you want. But they're going to do it because it's an excuse to gain power. Absolutely. But he had a knife.
Starting point is 00:10:12 He brought a knife to a gunfight. He got killed. That was dumb. It was a poor strategy, Tim. Well, could it be suicide by cop? It's possible. Did he ram? He rammed somebody with his car?
Starting point is 00:10:24 Is that right? I guess he rammed through the barricade. Oh, I so he's the car and a knife yeah yeah yeah you know what gets me about this this georgia thing is what georgia is that where the guy murdered six in the in the spas yeah like they'll do if they're gonna do like tests or like investigations and then in a year and a month they're like okay we figured out he was racist we figured out he wasn't racist like what difference does it make that guy murdered six people he was deranged eight people i think eight people yeah it's yeah it was terrifying you want to call it terror or not terror it it was terrifying for those people. Maybe it wasn't political terror.
Starting point is 00:11:06 What's the difference, man? I agree. It's like hate crimes, right? Where they're like, we're going to investigate your thought process before you committed a crime. It's like, dude, hitting someone's illegal. The reason why you did it, you did it. You know what I mean? The action is illegal.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I can't read your mind. And they try to infer as to what you were thinking. One of the biggest reasons I have a problem with terror laws and hate crime laws is that they're going to be selectively used. In this instance, they're already saying it wasn't terror. Well, dude was a black nationalist who posted on Instagram that the American government is the enemy of black people. Are you kidding me? And they're going to be like, no. Look, I don't care if they do or don't.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Just keep it consistent. I think this guy committed a crime. That's enough. Let me see if I got this straight. So this guy was on Facebook and Instagram posting about how much he hated the U.S. government. And then he went to Washington, D.C. and rammed into the Capitol fence. And they're calling this definitely not terrorism. That's an act of political.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Is that what I'm? Yeah. It is an act of political terror. I don't support these like terror laws where you throw people in Gitmo because of the way they were thinking when they did the crime. Right. He's from Indiana. He went to D.C.
Starting point is 00:12:11 What was he in D.C. for? Was he in school? I don't know. Yeah. I'm going to political statement. Yes. Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Why would you go to D.C.? That's a good point, Lydia. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. So Glenn Glenn Greenwald called this out. We have this post from Politico. The suspect was not known to Capitolitol police or dc police officials said robert conti the acting dc police chief said the incident does not appear to be terrorism related and there was no indication of a nexus to a member of congress glenn greenwald responded on what
Starting point is 00:12:38 basis did the police pronounce the capital attack does not appear to be terror uh terrorism related how was it remotely possible to determine the mode of the attacker this early which by the way is what determines whether an act of violence is or is not terror politics it's politics yeah how long did it take before they finally banned uh farrakhan off all these social media platforms i wasn't following what i don't know they got rid of all the white nationalists. Farrakhan was allowed to stay on. Twitter allowed him to say things that were overtly antisemitic.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And he's a supremacist, a racial supremacist. Just happens to be a different race. If you took quotes from Farrakhan and in any instance of the word black, you just swapped out white, you'd probably confuse people because they think it was Hitler. Just absolutely. Yeah. And so I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:13:26 He should be allowed to be on Twitter. He should be allowed to say what he wants to say. Good. Because when he was saying this stuff, we all saw it. And now when the New York Times brings it up, we know it. And when we see the suspect, we know what he believed and who he followed. And that's creepy, creepy stuff. Good to know.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Yeah, absolutely. But think about what happens when they ban this guy the only reason the new york times is like they repeatedly promoted anti-semitism is because the news stories that erupted when farrakhan would post these things or when these videos would come out you get rid of that speech you get rid of that you know that ability to share information and we'd be wondering like who's farrakhan i don't know what this is it was a religious fellow i think racists should expose themselves. Let them talk.
Starting point is 00:14:06 We'll judge them, hold them accountable. But yeah, don't ban them from stuff. I want to see what they want to say. You know, I think the issue, though, is that these like the ultra woke people, they're the racists, you know, and they do a really good job of masquerading as the not racists, you know, going around telling everybody that they're anti-racist. They got that book. Was it Anti-Rac baby oh yeah kids books that are being made and tell the kids how to
Starting point is 00:14:29 be a you know a cult member and things like that well they go around naming their cult anti-racists and it reminds me of the simpsons when uh homer's telling the story about when he's a kid and they had the no homers club and then he's like but you let in that other homer like we're allowed to have one like they made the name specifically to address something they were, you know, didn't want anti-racist. And then they go around literally discriminating based on race and encouraging overt, hardcore, anitarianism and anti-Semitism. And I'm just like, man, there's so many well-to-do liberals that are so obsessed with social justice narratives. They overlook the fact that black nationalist anti-Semites exist in large numbers with a massive following.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And they're sitting here going like, but what about Trump supporters? What about them? We're going to do wave a little American flag around. I get it. The people at the Capitol, there's a decent amount of people that went crazy and stormed the Capitol. That was bad. But you compare that to everything we've seen and the strength of the movement from things like, you know, Farrakhan. It's just not even a question. But that stuff's just, they ignore all that. city a majority of them are done by a certain ethnic minority i know i know i know you can't say it but you can look at the videos and you can be like oh my gosh this is like actually a problem
Starting point is 00:15:50 in their community and i wonder if that is the influence of um the you know the nation of islam i don't know i know i sorry i think that's why the atlanta spa shooting got so much outrage because it was a white dude i think they were secretly happy that it was a white person to say, oh, these white people hate Asian people. Honestly, I've never met a white person that hates Asian people. I love Asian people. I wish they would move in next to me. I want my kid to go to their schools. I love Asian people. I think it could be a problem in the black community. I've heard there's tensions between the Asians moving in and having like stores and like liquor stores and convenience stores, and they think they're taking away, they're making profits off the black people. I don't know, that's not my community, but I've
Starting point is 00:16:34 heard there's tension there. But they want to focus on all these white people hate Asian people. I don't think that's really a huge thing. It's when you look at the rules of YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, et cetera, et cetera, you're allowed to disparage white people. Yeah. Like outright, like they've even talked about how I think I can't remember which platform it was. They said, you know, you're allowed to make disparaging comments on traditionally non-marginalized groups of people or whatever. We know what that means. And so thinking back to old comedy, it was always safe to be like, oh, okay, white people- White people are crazy. Yeah, you can make fun of them. And I understand the idea behind it, right? The left would tell
Starting point is 00:17:17 you, it's like, oh, it's white privilege. And because of that, you're punching up, which is fine, but punching down is wrong. But that means because of these rules, you can't have very real conversations that are important. You mentioned the gentrification problem. That's absolutely very prominent within left-wing activist circles and within Black Lives Matter. And to clarify, too, what Asian means in many of these communities is not like Chinese or Japanese. It's Indian as well. It's Middle Eastern. So when I was in Ferguson, they burned down a gas station during the Michael Brown riots. And I interviewed some of the people there. Why did you burn down this gas station? They said, because the Asian guy comes here and he buys a gas station in our neighborhood. Why is he making money off of us? He doesn't live here. So they burn it down.
Starting point is 00:18:05 We broadcast that. That was on Vice. That's on YouTube. I mean, I don't know if they still have it up, but that's what they said. So there's very much racial tensions. When I was in Milwaukee during Black Lives Matter rioting,
Starting point is 00:18:18 they straight up were yelling, get the white people. F the white people. And an 18-year-old white kid got shot in the neck. I grew up watching this stuff, and it's no surprise to me. But I'm curious, you know, when I mentioned that I did a video saying I wasn't going to be covering what was going on in Milwaukee at the time because of the racial tensions. And I was like, for someone they perceive to be white, it's dangerous. You know, this kid got shot in the neck. So I'm not going
Starting point is 00:18:42 to stick around. It's remarkable. I did that video because I think I had like 20,000 subscribers. And there are people who follow me, and they wanted me to post videos from what was going on on the ground. And I said, I'm not going to do it, and here's why. And it was just to my followers. Well, the video ended up going viral and getting shared by a bunch of conservatives who were like, oh, look at this. This is proof of something. And the left was like, Tim Pool only did that to grift. I'm like, to who?
Starting point is 00:19:03 My 20, 000 followers who i know and follow and comment yeah this is it's crazy how dare you make money well but yeah right but it's it's insane how like these things are real and these racial tensions exist and there's absolutely racism in the black community in the asian community and in the latino community in the white community towards each other as well. Oh, definitely. I mean, Asians. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yes. Hispanic people talk about each other. It's just gossip. Yeah. Yeah. At that level, but I don't know. Yeah. So I feel like there's kind of like, I feel like we're in a cultural, the left is in a cultural Mexican standoff.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah. Where they're all, there's just like piranhas everywhere these these culture warriors ready to cancel you the moment you say something that's cancelable so no one will have honest conversations about their communities or other communities or racism because they'll get canceled the moment they do i hope i get canceled though because dr seuss got canceled and his books are up up up, up, up, up. That's right. I have children's books. I hope I get canceled so I can go top on Amazon. What are your children's books?
Starting point is 00:20:10 I have two children's books. First one is Nobody Knows How to Make a Pizza. It's based on Leonard Reed's iPencil, but I made it for kids about pizza. Awesome. It talks about division of labor, spontaneous order, all those economic terms. There's no central planner making this pizza it's people all over the world doing the tomatoes and the cheese yeah yeah because there's no one person who grows tomatoes farms dairy yeah wheat oregano and then
Starting point is 00:20:36 brings it all together with sugar it's all different farms and yeah you think cheese pizza is really simple but it's it's really complicated yeah yeah i wonder if uh somewhere someone's actually decided to make a pizza farm like let me just make all the thing we got cows we got tomatoes i think you guys could do it we're on it yeah no it's a lot of work for pizza yeah and so i'll going back to the more serious conversation i suppose the left is all they're all staring at each other and they i feel like most of these people actually let me stop leaked video came out i just saw this on twitter a teacher one of these teachers in la you know they do this woke stuff apparently forgot to turn off zoom and then went on like a racist tirade about this other this other black family and the way that she perceived black people and
Starting point is 00:21:20 the way they acted it was it was crazy to hear this and people are sharing this being like these are the people teaching your kids woke critical race theory trash overtly racist they know they're racist they're pretending not to be racist but they're super racist and then it's really funny because then you'll get black lives matter being like yo these white people are racist and we're like stop saying everyone's racist but they're literally pointing to these like urban leftist you know critical race theorist people too and i'm like yeah okay well you know they're racist yeah for sure that's what that's that's what they're literally pointing to these like urban leftist, you know, critical race theorist people, too. And I'm like, yeah, OK, well, you know, those are racist. Yeah, for sure. That's what that's that's that's what they're like behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:21:50 And they don't say it. So I feel like they're all sitting there like it's like that Key and Peele segment where they're where he's sweating like crazy, just like standing there. And that's what all the like many of these racist leftists are doing, waiting for one person to just say the wrong word. Wimmick's in in an ex how dare you that's offensive women aha got you now and they're all just hitting each other they don't have any real conversations about stuff i think it's i think it's intentional i've been today has been very exhausting in that if you look at what's happening across the world when we'll probably talk about later crimea um in china with hong kong and taiwan
Starting point is 00:22:25 uh russia and ukraine like now they have the americans all stuck in this paralyzed fear state so like we're not going to get involved that's what they want if there's going to be an invasion of of crimea and ukraine by the russians and an invasion of taiwan and hong kong by chinese they don't want the united states to react in a cohesive manner. And if this is the stuff we're focused on, we're not going to. Bingo. Yeah, it feels like in many ways the establishment has just decided, okay, wokeness is our path, I suppose. Which it feels that way because from the intelligence agencies to the military even, the embracing, like the chief diversity officer or whatever, the Pentagon. Amazing. Are you kidding me why would there be a movement an effort in the federal government to divide this country
Starting point is 00:23:12 why would why would the americans be intentionally dividing themselves it could either be outside influence or it could be a form of like cultural apoptosis where like one cell is no longer needed in a system it destroys itself so like if the united states has become vestigial if in the human experience that we're just we're just ending our own experience i don't i don't think so i would say this what it could be if this is the case uh we're conquered exactly but okay listen people say oh i oh, I hate division. I hate division. I want to be unified.
Starting point is 00:23:48 But people, I think, secretly love division. I make commentary. If I make it very divisive, people will eat that up. People love to see their enemies. It's true. Bench peer owns. Yeah, to own the libs. We got to own the libs and all that i think people like
Starting point is 00:24:07 the vision i think they'd like to see their enemies hurt and they want war they want conflict of some sort because people strive for purpose they want something yeah but our we're supposed to own the communists it's supposed to be like own the commies you know make that anti-commie stuff and then make fun of the communists and the concentration camps instead we're ripping at each other so if if these other countries engage in some kind of conflict if we really do escalate Make that anti-communist stuff and then make fun of the communists in the concentration camps. Instead, we're ripping at each other. So if these other countries engage in some kind of conflict, if we really do escalate in the South China Sea or in Eastern Europe, the US is – everyone's fighting each other. So I guess the point I'm trying to make is we need to be like, hey, everyone in America, we come together and we respect each other. We're all Americans first.
Starting point is 00:24:50 We're not this race first or this identity first. Instead, the prevailing ideology that's infected all of our institutions from the news media to schools and now the military is divide everybody up based on immutable characteristics and some other self-identified characteristics so that we are as fractured as possible. Okay, I'm sorry. Like any strategist is going to be like, that's a terrible idea. So that when conflict arises, we're too busy fighting ourselves. You know, they want, as infantry, they want you like an infant. They want your mind clear.
Starting point is 00:25:15 They don't want you to have all this social order. Don't pull an AOC on me. There's a surge at the border. They're not insurgents. Infantile. They want to wipe your mind clean of your past identity and make a new one that is synonymous with all others and that's why you're part of this infant this no no no i i just look you're born and you're birthed
Starting point is 00:25:37 into the port the people who are fighting in a conflict who are unified who know who who's on their side and knows what they're fighting for. And often we have corrupt officials and institutions and governments that manipulate the goodwill of the people who are willing to fight and lay their lives down for the right cause. They get manipulated and they get exploited. And that's kind of what America has been doing for quite some time, especially in the past several decades. But I have tremendous respect for those that are willing to do that. The problem is the corrupted system. More importantly, however, when I see the Pentagon
Starting point is 00:26:10 chief diversity officer and he got canceled because he had racist comments or something, I don't know. Like we're infected. You know what I mean? Like we're fractured. There's no coming back from this, is there?
Starting point is 00:26:21 No. You can't convince the cultists to abandon the cult. There's no coming back from this. We altered the globe, the way humans will interact forever yeah i thought maybe a silver lining of covid was like people coming together you know no the complete opposite of that happened we had a common enemy here covid and still nope what i what i absolutely love about the covid thing too in terms of division is that conservatives initially were like, you should wear a mask.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And it was Fauci and the Surgeon General who were like, no, no, no. And conservatives were like, don't listen. Don't listen. And then it switched. And then what happened? Now the conservatives are the ones who are like, and the left is like, wear three. I was consistent on that. There you go.
Starting point is 00:27:05 With the CDC and Fauci was saying, oh, don't wear a mask. There's no need to. I was saying, you are liars. You can check my Twitter. Were you selling Gadsden flag masks? I was selling them, but later. Later, later, later. OK.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And then they switched their mind. It was really because they didn't want people to hoard masks. They were liars. And that was terrible because now people are not listening to them on vaccines or anything because they're liars. However, I still said, hey, wearing a mask is a good idea. Fauci admitted this. In an interview, he said, we didn't want people to buy up all the masks when the medical professionals needed them first. Yeah, so there are a bunch of liars. But now there's a bunch of libertarians say, Oh, you're you believe in these government conspiracies, because you want to wear a mask is like, man, I'm consistent on this issue. Like, I'm not a child. There's such a juvenile
Starting point is 00:27:54 thing. Like if the government says something, I'm gonna do the opposite. Well, a lot of times that is true, but not all the time, like use your brain, not just like reactionary juvenile. I got I got hit up by somebody when all this started going down with COVID. And they were like, yo, the government said, you don't need masks quick by a bunch. And I'm like, you know what, man? It's it's it's so predictable. A bunch of the libertarian type people I know are like, I don't trust the government. They're saying, don't I better buy one.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And then when the government says to do and they're like, you can't tell me what to do yeah i'm just like duh okay it's called obstinance yes it is very dangerous you can't tell yeah it's just now i'll tell you that like i tweeted wear 12 masks and they got like 3 000 retweets yes like just wear 12 and people were like i don't know 13 it's like look i picked an arbitrary number that was stupid. I actually have an idea. We should do this for a bonus thing for the website. Just put on as many masks as we can. See how many we can put on. Yeah, just keep putting on masks. I can't breathe anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Until... I can. Keep going. That's huge. Yeah, I don't know. You might get to a point where you're like, too many masks. Yeah, like 12 might be the limit, I suppose. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Your elbows, on your ears. That's right. That's true, yeah. Your ears have gas canals in them, too. Do you need to mask your ears as well? Got to cover your eyes. No, just your mouth. Just put a pillowcase over your head.
Starting point is 00:29:11 There you go. You can still breathe through it. I saw a commercial for those big spaceman helmets. The one that we have? Yeah, they're like really taking it seriously. Oh, gosh, of course they are. We have it right here. Put your money where your mouth is, Julie.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Here you go. You want to put it on? Oh, yeah. You're going to be healthier when that's over with. You don't have to put it on. is Julie here you go you want to put it on oh yeah you're going to be healthier when that's over don't you don't have to put it on you have to I was really going to do it yeah they're great
Starting point is 00:29:31 it's got an electric filter in it I wanted to try it well you can try it if you want I'll try it after I was so excited for these things alien thing so cool it's just infinitely more comfortable
Starting point is 00:29:42 wearing the space helmet than it is wearing a mask I will say as much as goofy as I think it is, it's not uncomfortable. I mean, it is uncomfortable because it's big and heavy. I got to be honest. I'm going to wear that. You know why?
Starting point is 00:29:52 I got allergies. Yeah, yeah. And it's got like a HEPA filter or whatever. Two of them. I can walk around outside and I won't sneeze. And y'all be jealous. We're displaying the mask. And dude, my allergies are bad, man.
Starting point is 00:30:03 It's like, yeah, because all the trees are exploding. And it's basically you're getting all this tree spunk up in your business. It's true, though. I cut back on sugar and stopped getting allergies. That helps, yeah. My allergies are gone. I used to get horrible pollen allergies. I start drinking water, cut out soda.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Water? Yep. Yeah, and I'm no longer allergic to pollen. I can smell it. If I take a huge whiff of pollen, I'll feel it tickle the back of my throat still. But it's like dehydration. It dehydrates the nasal folds. So I drink water.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It kind of absorbs the pollen. I read on this website that if you eat worms like parasites, then you'll get cured of your allergies. Maybe it was just one of those crackpot hippy-dippy websites. But what it was saying was that – actually, I probably saw this on Reddit because I don't read any crackpot hippy-dippy websites. But what it was saying was that – actually, I probably saw this on Reddit because I don't read any crackpot hippy-dippy websites. But it was basically saying that you have two different immune systems, I suppose, one for parasites and one for pathogens or something. Oh, interesting. But because we've cured ourselves in like limited parasites for the most part from our
Starting point is 00:30:56 diets, we just have this like crazy immune system. That could just be a bunch of bunk nonsense from Reddit probably. I don't know. Maybe someone knows better so they can tell me. Did you try it? No, not me but uh you know back in the day they used to like like diet like tape worms for diets you would like take the pills is that true that's true i think so i'm i look that up yeah i don't know yeah and it was like tape worms well you'll lose weight quick they used to bleed people to try and heal them of illness they They'd cut their legs and get out the bad blood.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Do you remember that product from the 2000s where you would take a pill and then you couldn't digest fat? And you'd just crap it out? I remember that. So gross. Maybe. Was that? I remember a lot of diet pills in the 80s. And it's like it would cause your body to not digest fat.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And so you would just expel it. It was like Dex something. Yeah. Dex know that no i think you know i thought you said something earlier that i thought was kind of profound is that people need conflict i do think they need conflict i think people secretly like conflict yeah it's like uh have you guys seen wonder woman not the new one the new one with uh gal gadot no no not not not 1984 like the good one that came out where so that's basically it like she thinks that if she defeats the god of war aries the war will stop and then chris pine's character is like dude people fight man like there's conflict if you can't do anything about it and then it's like aries all he does is whisper in the ear.
Starting point is 00:32:26 He doesn't make the war. He just nudges people in the right direction to excite that conflict. And like if he wasn't around and it just built and built and built, then it might explode into some giant guerrilla conflict. I'm going to move this gorilla. But some giant like life-ending conflict. So maybe a little bit of conflict frequently is healthier than letting it build up. You bought a bottle of love and didn't just automatically. Yeah, just a little bit of conflict frequently is healthier than letting it build up bottled up it didn't just automatic yeah just a little bit relation i mean that's part of why relationships i think are like yeah you know you're married that's that's being in a being in relationships a lot of like people love that that and there comes yeah you know what i found
Starting point is 00:33:02 today that rage rooms are coming where you go into a room. You break stuff. It's kind of like, you know, escape rooms are coming to thing. There's rage room now where you have a hammer and they let you break
Starting point is 00:33:13 whatever you want in this room. Interesting. So you get some stress out. Yeah, that would kill. COVID related stress. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:21 That's fascinating. I think it's cool. I play a lot of games to get my my conflict resolution out of my system sometimes but it's not not really physical it's mostly mental so i didn't i didn't know about this rage room yeah that's fast yeah we got this i just pulled this up from nbc why a rage room might be the key to venting your bottled frustration but rage rooms are not appropriate treatment for everybody no i i couldn't handle that that's crazy to me that'd make anything worse yeah yeah i would not enjoy breaking stuff
Starting point is 00:33:49 and like going out like that really yeah i kind of would i don't know okay you know everybody's everybody's got their own different way of doing things they actually say about catharsis that it's not necessarily good it can make things worse you know one of the things that i'm starting to wonder during the course of this conversation is that maybe because we're not in relationships, we're not married, and we don't have families, we don't want to break. I mean, yeah, it's not that you don't want to break stuff, but you don't have like the rock tumbler effect of being in a long term relationship where you're just kind of like knocking the rough edges off the other person constantly. And they're doing the same for you. And maybe that bleeds to our emotions being
Starting point is 00:34:21 bottled up and yelling at each other no i i was just i was just thinking that um because of something you said earlier when you were talking about just being busy with your family because it's something we've absolutely heard from a lot of other guests and a lot of our friends where it's like oh man you know with the the school like we've been so wrapped up i haven't been following the news all that much you know because i got two kids or whatever that's what i hear a lot of and so i'm right now, you know what would end the culture war? Seriously, just end the protests. Make some babies.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Yeah. Get something to do. Because then they would have no choice but to be wrapped up in family. Yeah. Nothing else matters. It's your family. They'd be productive. They'd be working and they'd be occupied.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah. Idle hands are the devil's playground. Correct. But I suppose we should say idle nethers. Yes. Are the devil's playground but i suppose we should say idle nethers yes are the devil's playground i don't get it done that's right no but i guess that's not the issue i think you know people actually know that is the issue yeah yeah i was gonna say maybe people are still hooking up but they're not they're not having babies no no no they're not even hooking up that's true true, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, overwhelmingly, Gen Z is just like virgins. A bunch of prudes.
Starting point is 00:35:28 No, no, no. They can't. Yeah. COVID. I think of chemical castration. Not really castration, but like all these weird new food chemicals that get added and created in laboratories. You know, all these new sugars, sucralose, aspartame, fructose.
Starting point is 00:35:42 And it's making people's sex drive go down. We've heard testosterone levels. Low sperm count. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, but Ian, to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And so you go on these things about sugar, and then you make the assumption that these things relate to these other problems. When if you actually look at the data, the reason for this has a lot to do with social
Starting point is 00:36:00 media and dating websites. Porn. All of it together. And porn. Porn. Yeah, absolutely. Now COVID. But it it together. And porn. Porn. Yeah, absolutely. Now COVID. It was even before COVID, but COVID now.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It's like, oh, I can't even. That person might be tainted. Oh, well, that's illegal in the UK. COVID? Dating in the UK. Is it really? Yeah. What happened?
Starting point is 00:36:17 It's a crime. You can't have sex in the UK. It's illegal. What? It is. Let me repeat this. It is a crime in the UK to have sex with a person. Is that including Brit all the Commonwealth?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Unless you're in a relationship with him, I think. Oh, wow. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I think Carl Benjamin said to me. This is headline news to me. What is happening? How are they enforcing that? Right?
Starting point is 00:36:36 Seriously. I saw where they suggested. Yeah. Yeah. Reuters. It's from June 2nd. What? This is from last year.
Starting point is 00:36:44 British government faces mockery over coronavirus sex ban. Yeah. Yeah. I would mock them too. There you go. Oh my God. For keeping people safe. Under amendments introduced to English rules on Monday, no person may participate in a
Starting point is 00:36:54 gathering which takes place in public or private and consists of two or more persons. Britain's tabloid media cast it as the bonking ban. What this is about making sure we don't have people staying away from home at night. So two or more people. So two people can't be alone together is what they're saying legally. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is like, look at this.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Like the Google thing. Yeah. October Reuters, UK banned sex between government aid workers. October 16th, sex ban. England's COVID tears. October 25th, UK sex ban explained. June 4ober 16th sex ban england's covid tears october 25th uk's sex ban explained corona june 4th coronavirus sex ban dude it like the uk 2021 has gone like fewer fuel has gone full there we go full no sex for you no sex wow jeez could you imagine if like
Starting point is 00:37:42 joe biden came out and was like my fellow Americans, we're making sex illegal. There'd be riots. Come on, man. There'd be riots. Huge riots. Dude, this is so, it's creepy, isn't it? That is dystopian. It's, I'm, I mean, I'm shattered.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I'm horrified. It might sound hyperbolic. I'm not literally, I don't think i'm shattered but my dna is shattering yeah like i feel shaken with this news of russia and ukraine and then this social war thing is like i don't know what to do i could have sworn i read something that was sent to me by uh carl benjamin where it was like the uk says you can't have sex with somebody. And then also it was just like some high ranking government official
Starting point is 00:38:29 was telling people to just go like crank it out themselves. Oh, that's right. You know, I read some good recommendations where you're supposed to watch your partner jerk off in front of you, but not get close to him. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, that was a recommendation from the government. That's weird. We're not family friendly on Friday night. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys. No, I mean, I That's weird. We're not family friendly on Friday night. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys. No, I mean, I brought it up. We started it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:49 But I mean, it's like the ultimate authoritarianism, I suppose. That if we're like, social media is a problem. It's making young people not have families. And then suddenly we're like, oh. And then they have no purpose. Yes, it's true. You know what's really funny? Is it because I don't have kids?
Starting point is 00:39:04 See, it's my own fault i've been talking about how millennials and then and the these generations have no purpose so i did this video a while back about you know how jordan peterson provided purpose to many young men find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it and then wokeness was the purpose for these leftists so you have these young people who are sitting there like, why am I alive? And then like hitting themselves in the head screaming. And so they searched for anything. And some people found wokeness. It's almost like you guys ever watch Underworld?
Starting point is 00:39:37 Yeah. No. You never seen it? You know, we're like the Corvid. What is it called? The Corvinus. Yeah, yeah. It's like basically this dude's
Starting point is 00:39:45 got this like immortality thing and then one son's bitten by a bat and one son's bitten by a wolf and then it creates the two different tribes the werewolves and the vampires so you have these people who like drift into one tribe or the other sjw anti-sjw because they're trying to find some purpose in their lives and you know like i like i mentioned jordan peterson provided purpose to a lot of these young men left absolutely hated it but then i realized that you know my perspective was lacking because i don't have kids the real purpose missing from these people's lives is family yes just outright the the people before these generations didn't have idle hands weren't desperate for a purpose.
Starting point is 00:40:26 They had kids. No, they had like 10 kids. Yeah. My great-grandmother had 12 kids. I'm like, whoa, how do you do that? I know. It's crazy. Now it's frowned upon.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah. How's your life changed? Like, how different is it? How has your social perception changed since you've been raising a family or raising children a child uh the world scares the crap out of me what aspects of it just what kind of future my son is going to be into and how how can i change that and i think i've changed my commentary a lot um where i've been you know i want to make a difference a positive difference in people's lives where before you know i want to make a difference a positive difference in people's lives where before you know i was a little bit trolly i'm still a little bit trolly
Starting point is 00:41:10 but i feel like i want to make an impact in the world because for my son and hopefully future children's sake i'm also scared of pedophiles oh yeah i feel like there's so many out there. from the, I think the Miami Herald, I'm not sure, started filing lawsuits. I think they then joined up. I could be getting the story wrong, but they were both very much going after these files. And then all of a sudden it was like, boom, this is real. This happened. You know, the documents were there. And you were called crazy if you said that these high profile people like Harvey Weinstein, for instance, granted, he's a bit different, but still these like, like these are extreme
Starting point is 00:42:04 instances of severe predation and you were a conspiracy theorist it wasn't true even though like the fun the crazy thing is like seth mcfarland family guy jokes would make fun of kevin spacey and harvey weinstein and you were wondering like what do these people actually know in these industries so, so definitely. But I also wonder if, I don't know, just what can you do for your son's future? You know what I mean? I, let me, let me, let me get more, um, nuanced. I hear a lot from people who have kids where they're like, I have to make sure I'm around for my kids, but then they're willing to sacrifice the bigger picture for the, for the, for, for their kids. You know what I mean? Like they're willing to say, I'll forego this conflict and risking myself to fight for these ideas
Starting point is 00:42:49 because it's better that I can be there for my kids to give them food than it is that I defend the future. Yeah. So I don't know. What do you think? What are you going to do? You seem to be. What am I going to do? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Are you going to? What about it? I'm pretty much a stay-at-home mom. I think I sacrifice some stuff to be a stay-at-home mom, but I think it's absolutely worth it. I'm pretty much a stay at home mom. I think I sacrificed some stuff to be a stay at home mom, but I think it's absolutely worth it. I think I heard an interview before from a hospice nurse and she said, what is people's biggest regret on their deathbeds? And they say, I didn't spend enough time with my family. She says she'd always heard it from men but in recent years she's heard it more from women who chose to have a career and you know send their kids off to daycare and i understand some people
Starting point is 00:43:32 have to do that some people do not have the financial means i understand that i am privileged in that sense however if i have the option to be a stay-at-home mom and be there with my kids, then I will take that. So I think that it's worth it. I think just that I have influence over my child and it isn't just a stranger who's raising them, whose ideology I may not agree with and who may be out of his life. And I'm always going to be there. I was going to ask, are you going to send him to public school? That's a decision we have not made yet.
Starting point is 00:44:09 He's only three. I am homeschooling him, I suppose, even though he's learning his colors and numbers and the dinosaurs. He knows quite a few of those. Have you given him any skateboards?
Starting point is 00:44:24 You should give him a skateboard yeah he actually has a scooter all right i guess he has like a dinosaur helmet with spikes on it oh i like that that's punk yeah yeah it was crazy uh you know growing up skateboarding there would always be these scooter kids at the skate park and skateboarders were so annoyed because they'd get in the way and didn't know what they were doing but i'll tell you the craziest thing is like i see the scooter kid at the skate park and i'm like oh these scooter kids man because they'd get in the way and didn't know what they were doing. But I'll tell you the craziest thing is like, I see the scooter kid at the skate park. And I'm like, oh, these scooter kids, man. Like, they're always in the way. I get it.
Starting point is 00:44:50 They're kids. They're here. They're playing. It's fine. But their parents got to tell them about like teaching about etiquette and stuff. And then it's like four years later and the scooter kid is now like 15 and he's doing backflips and like launching, you know, 10 feet in the air. And I'm like, damn, the scooter kid's good now.
Starting point is 00:45:04 This is rad. Now it's fun to watch. So yeah, scooter's cool. you know 10 feet in the air and i'm like damn the scooter kid's good now this is rad like i now it's fun to watch so yeah scooter's cool no i think definitely physical activity mental activity and i'd say dude if it were me don't put them in school man it's tough that having having having your kid understand the system from within it is probably really important but it can only be done with your guidance outside of the school absolutely like for me i went to grade school and they you know they fill your head with complete bunk garbage and then i would go home and have my mom be like that's not true set you straight and then
Starting point is 00:45:35 i was like oh and then i realized like i realized what the system was and and sort of but i was very young but i was like oh okay so this is not entirely legitimate. And so I would see how the system worked but was constantly being reminded from outside of it what the system was. Also, I started working for my family's business when I was like 9 or 10 years old because we had a family cafe. And then you hear real conversations from real adults. You deal with real money and you have real experience in the real world. You go to school and everything is so trivial and nonsensical. Yeah. I think parental involvement
Starting point is 00:46:06 is number one. I grew up going to government schools, but I had a family who was more conservative. My grandfather was a huge influence on me. He was more of a libertarian type
Starting point is 00:46:16 and he would tell me, you know, just kiss their butt, get an A, and then just everything they say go out the other ear. That's good. That's good philosophy.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Yeah. It's kind of like, it is a lot like military academy, like public school. Sit down, wait for the bell to ring, raise your hand, don't speak out of line, stand up. Some places have dress codes. I wonder if sending kids off to military school at the age of four or five is wise. I don't know about military school. Pre-military school, let's call it. Like pre-K.
Starting point is 00:46:51 No, I think having uh uh the parents a good balance between between masculine feminine and physical activity and and mental activity having a strong father and mother who can provide a good balance of you know perspective suppose not everybody gets that though you got to be lucky are you going to have a dad who's like a short overweight middle manager who is deferential to everybody and just whenever someone pushes him around he apologizes and tells his kid to keep his head down and not fight back or is he going to be this like ripped lumberjack guy who's like don't take nothing from nobody and then he like here's your shotgun i know you're seven but i think you can handle a 12 gauge son and then you gotta have the mom but I think you can handle a 12 gauge, son. And then you got to have the mom being like, don't give him a 12 gauge when he's seven.
Starting point is 00:47:29 You got to have that mix. You know what I mean? Yeah. You got to give him the 410. Come on, man. Start small. Give a kid a gun that big. Geez.
Starting point is 00:47:39 No, I don't know. I think, you know, it's tough, especially, because millennials aren't having kids. They lack purpose. And there seems to be a, in my opinion, dangerous cultural shift that has nothing to do with tradition or progression. It's not about being progressive or being a traditionalist. It's about – I mean humans have kids. You know what I mean? That's our purpose, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:01 I mean it's – I don't know if it's purpose. But I know like when you have kids, your kids become your purpose. And that if you don't have kids, humanity ceases to exist. Your culture ceases to exist. Here's what's fascinating to me. When I hear from liberals and their attitude is very much who cares if America ceases to exist? Have you ever heard the sentiment from liberals? You see it on Twitter? They'll take a quote from a conservative who's like,
Starting point is 00:48:29 you have to have kids to preserve America and its culture. And they'll be like, why? And that's why it's really fascinating to see conservatives. This overlaps a lot with immigration. Concern about immigrants coming in and displacing American culture and getting rid of christmas conservatives very much want to preserve you know conserve these traditions in their culture i'm actually not particularly conservative i just think if you don't have kids then there's no people so i mean i guess we can build robots to replace ourselves we're not doing
Starting point is 00:49:00 that either or live longer we live to be 200 then we don't we need to have like 40 as many children or something maybe it's like what you were saying ian was it apoptosis yeah that's for real man it's like the the mice the mouse utopia you get to a certain point where you're just consuming and doing nothing and just before um the roman empire crumbled basically a lot of homosexuality started or homosexuality spiked i believe and, basically, a lot of homosexuality started. Or homosexuality spiked, I believe. And there was just a lot less making babies. I don't know. They were living in the age of gluttony, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:49:33 They had everything. They didn't care. They didn't want to serve in the military anymore because they might lose what they had. And they loved their things. And then they got conquered from the outside. Yeah. Yeah. I think people mention a lot the mouse utopia. Have you heard of that? and then they got conquered from the outside. Yeah, yeah. I think, you know, people mention a lot the mouse utopia.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Have you heard of that? They basically created this space where they put a bunch of mice or rats or something and they gave them all food and said, like, no matter what happened, they never ran out of food. They never ran out of food or water. And so they eventually just, like, some stopped eating. Some started eating others. Some just stopped reproducing and just died.
Starting point is 00:50:06 And people wonder if we as humans are susceptible to something similar where we've reached this point where people don't have to work. And I mean it. When you've got somebody who lives in New York City and their job is to write articles for BuzzFeed, I'm sorry, that's not work. It's not work. Work is like I have to grow the food. I have to hunt. I have to build the house. I'm sorry. That's not work. It's not work. Work is like, I have to grow the food. I have to hunt. I have to build the house. I have to start the fire. I have to generate the electricity to power the machines. I have to find the energy source so that we can stay warm in the winter. Writing articles about celebrity gossip is not work. Oh, they'll say it's so hard.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Isn't that a good thing though? Like I look back, I'm a woman obviously but my great-grandfathers were coal miners and such hard work i i look back at my my great-grandmother's like they had to cook everything from scratch and wash everything from you know they didn't have laundry machines or dishwashers and i just i think we're so lucky to not have to do all that stuff going going back yes and so i'll attach that to what ian was saying about we're talking about rome right yeah or greece well the roman both probably yeah i think there's a lot of vanity and and gluttony at the end of both of those here's what i see when the the culture is stagnant you know uh or if the technology isn't fast enough. It's a weird hybrid moment of reaching that apex of technology with population to where the culture stagnates. Then once Rome collapsed, the technology persisted.
Starting point is 00:51:35 A lot of this information persisted and spread out a little bit and then started to improve. And people started to fight again and work hard again and then you get you you know you come to the colonial era european colonialism and things like that striving for more and no longer just being like i want to be a layabout glutton because i have all the stuff so the technology remains things become easier but then the quest re-emerges so maybe what's going to happen for us is that some kind of you know mass massive you know century turning or millennial turning millennium turning where we've reached this point where we as a culture are all gluttonous because technology has granted us this after our culture collapses then there will be a struggle again but that technology will still exist so then in another couple hundred years, it'll be even better for
Starting point is 00:52:25 everybody. And then they'll start becoming gluttonous and lazy. You know what I mean? I guess the question is, do we have it too good in America? Because my father-in-law is from the Soviet Union. And he, you know, it wasn't such a great time. In the Soviet Union, he's like, looks at these American kids and teenagers and millennials having this depression and anxiety. And he's like, what the heck? You guys have pretty much everything you want. You live in nice places.
Starting point is 00:52:52 You have all this food. And why, why could you possibly be depressed? Because they don't, they don't have a purpose. Right. And I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:01 Andrew Yang wants to send everyone $12,000 a year. It's like, is that, Andrew Yang wants to send everyone $12,000 a year. It's like, is that, I don't know. People can just like sit back and relax and play video games all day and get a decent, you know, apartment and have enough money. Should we get offensive?
Starting point is 00:53:18 Should we anger all the feminists? Are you prepared to make feminists angry? Okay, what are we doing here? Let's go. So I got this. This is actually fairly old. This is from Zach Goldberg. He's a great data researcher and journalist on Twitter. And he tweeted this.
Starting point is 00:53:34 He says, overall, with one exception, white moderates, those in the 18 to 29 age group are more likely to report being diagnosed with a mental health condition. The differences among white liberals, though, are striking. Almost half of white liberals in this cohort report a diagnosis. And in this graph, he shows us four different age groups, 18 to 29, 30 to 49, 50 to 64, and 65 plus. 65 plus from liberal, moderate to conservative, low instances of mental health. I'm sorry, mental health conditions. Low instances of mental health. No, no, no. The opposite. We still have any.
Starting point is 00:54:07 This is amazing. Among 18 to 29-year-old white liberals, 45.9% mental illness. White conservatives, 20.9. Less than half. This is amazing. Even among the 65 and up, the white liberals are overwhelmingly more
Starting point is 00:54:24 mentally ill than moderates and conservatives. Now we're going to offend the feminists. Let's break down white. Well, let's let's break down a little bit. These demographics because Zach Goldberg gives us another one. He says some of you asked for it. So here is the last chart broken down by gender. The biggest gap with age X ideological group is between white liberal men and women in the 18 to 29 category. That's right. White liberal
Starting point is 00:54:53 women between the ages of 18 to 29 have a 56.3% instance of being diagnosed with a mental health condition. White liberal men, 33.6 among 30 to 49 year olds, white liberals, women, 39.7 men, 33.6. Among 30 to 49-year-olds, white liberals. Women, 39.7. Men, 29.7. And it's very, very similar. But even among white conservative women, 27.3% in the 18 to 29 age bracket. Now, the first thing I'll say is I think the age thing shows us a generational shift in mental health diagnosis. Someone who's 65 probably was not diagnosed with conditions
Starting point is 00:55:27 when they were young, and other older don't care to go to the doctor and actually get diagnosed with this. The difference, the important factor is the gap. Among white liberals, 65 and older, it's almost identical, 15.2 to 15%. White liberal men and women women 65 or older have similar instances of mental health issues so there is something creating a a massive gap between white liberal gen z millennials and i think i think i know what it might be what is it not having families yep not having relationships not necessarily families not necessarily kids but no relationships and i particularly think no kids and i wonder if and you can give me your opinion and lydia as well because you're the ladies in the room we've had other people on the show say that the reason women are are unwell and unhappy
Starting point is 00:56:16 and depressed is because they're not having children what do you think julie yeah what do you think that maybe uh sorry i hope you don't mind me asking were you ever like super depressed did you find this to be an issue for you before you had your kid i actually got a lot of anxiety after oh postpartum anxiety yeah um oh gosh yeah i think with older people i think there was just a stigma against reaching out and getting therapy and all that with the younger people. I feel like being a liberal would be so hard. Because if you don't have kids, like you were talking about, you're focused on all this other stuff. And a lot of stuff is just out of your control. Like the liberals are very focused on like climate change issues. I know that's a huge
Starting point is 00:57:02 one with them having climate change anxiety and just, you know, all this racism and stuff. And there is out of your control where I think conservative people are kind of more focused in words and on the individual and on their families where liberals is like, I want to save the world, world peace. And it's like, no, there's Ukraine and Crimea and all this stuff. And you can't do anything on an individual level about that. That is such a good point. Because you're. Conservatives do focus on the individual level. And that means they do things like make families. They have kids. They focus on their work. They find things to do that are meaningful. And they don't tend to stress too much about stuff that they cannot have any possible control over, like global warming. When it comes to the older people,
Starting point is 00:57:44 a lot of them probably did struggle with this stuff and they probably just learned to live with it or yeah you just don't suck it up you're right yeah you're destroying the family exactly yeah keep it together yeah but then like the whole family thing i definitely think that the fact that women aren't having children is incredibly depressing to them i just want to throw my two cents in there because i think that's probably one of the biggest problems that we face. You know the meme about – you guys ever watch Archer? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Oh, yeah. I love that show. No. I don't think there's more people. I'm just not intelligent enough, I feel like, to get in. It's not a smart show. Trust me. I just play games, video games.
Starting point is 00:58:20 There was that episode where – it's been a long time since I watched Archer. I just rewatched it. Which one? What's the name of Alana? Is that her name? Alana? Lana. Lana.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Lana. Why did I say Alana? Lana. Archer keeps calling her baby crazy. Yes. And it's funny. She is. But it's like there's a joke that very much resonates with – I think 30 Rock did this,
Starting point is 00:58:40 this joke. TV shows and culture have made jokes about women whose biological clocks are ticking and how they want to have kids men don't experience that i'm wondering if that plays a role in why there's a gap between men and women like a biological difference it does for me i'm not in a rush to have kids and if i was i'd be in a completely different person my goals and my behavior would be completely... That's dudes. Yeah. I can have kids when I'm 80.
Starting point is 00:59:09 That's a privilege, yeah. It's not as easy, but you can. They found that men also lose fertility. I mean, later than women, but like 40s and 50s, and there's more of a chance of having a problem with the child. It's true.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I don't want to destroy the male ego here it is it is true but the issue is that more women yeah if a guy's firing off several million yeah yeah if 90 of those are just deficient he's got a couple that are working no you got like millions right all right so what happens is that you'll end up seeing you know older guys have kids you know and for women it's a lot seeing you know older guys have kids you know and for women it's a lot different you know i i know it's like the craziest thing that this is an offensive topic but it is like feminists whenever i talk about this kind of stuff it's like all the feminists start lighting me up on twitter they're all angry and i'm like is it is it wrong to point
Starting point is 00:59:58 out that they're they're advising women to freeze their eggs i mean do your thing man it really works freeze it eggs yeah i think, do your thing, man. More power to you. It rarely works. It rarely works, freezing eggs. Yeah. I think we're kind of lying to women saying, you know, there are instances of 40-year-old women having birth, but they're rare. Do you really want to take that risk? Probably not if you really want kids. So think about this, right?
Starting point is 01:00:19 We're talking about mental illness. I don't want to act like I am saying this is the sole reason people experience mental illness. No, of course not act like I am saying this is the sole reason people experience mental illness. It's a huge factor. But I'm saying, I believe it's a huge factor in the fact that as a 35-year-old guy
Starting point is 01:00:29 with no kids, I should probably start thinking about having a family, but I got it. Yeah. Whatever, I'm a dude. Your sperm is okay, but are you energetic enough
Starting point is 01:00:39 for kids if you're 40, 50, 60 baby years old? Because you saw my son. He was jumping up and down on those feed bags. I got energy for days. He does. It's true. Tim does.
Starting point is 01:00:51 He's got this. I'm a crazy person. Just letting you know. But the point is, I don't have to consider a biological limitation. If you were a 35-year-old woman, you definitely would. So I'm wondering if there are women
Starting point is 01:01:02 who are sitting here, and you guys tell me what you think, when they're looking at the media saying, just freeze your eggs and work and be a CEO. And they're thinking to themselves, but I want to have kids too. And you've got a combination of mainstream liberal social stigma telling you, no, you can't take time off. And the physical reality is of you might have to. You could be a CEO later in life, though. Like, your kids are so young for such a short amount of time. Like, I'm 32. I have the rest of my life to work.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I can be 40, 50 years old. My mom was a stay-at-home mom. She's still working. She got it all. Women, you know, there's also the thing that women can have it all. Like, no, you can't. You can't have it all at the same time. also the thing that women can have it all like no you can't you can't have it all at the same time exactly thank you okay yeah i think we have it backwards and i do think that you have a point because i've known so many great and amazing women who went and
Starting point is 01:01:54 they raised their kids they got them like up into high school they sent them off and they're like and then they went back to school a lot of them became nurses some of them became teachers and pharmacists and stuff i was like that seems like such a good balance because if you want to work by the time you're that age you'll know exactly what you want to do your kids will have a firm start in life and you'll be able to go yeah and you can have it your career and your kid at the same time you're not worrying about i'm 35 40 years old i might have to get ivf which is really expensive right you mentioned your kids are really young for a short amount of time reminds me of this really funny story. This guy posts on the internet. He was like 25 and he went and visited his dad or it's like he was at his
Starting point is 01:02:29 parents' house for the holidays. And out of nowhere, his dad walks in the room and just grabs him and lifts him up as high as he could. And he's like, dad, what are you doing? And his dad said,
Starting point is 01:02:38 I saw a meme where it said one day you care, you lifted your child for the last time and didn't realize it. And then they both started laughing. His dad was basically like, I can pick my son up whenever I want. But no, it's an interesting point, too. People don't realize that you pick your kid up one day, the next day you don't. And that may have been the last time and you never noticed. There's going to be a last time.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And so that dad walks in and he's picking up his 25-year-old man of a son. I love it. That's cute do you guys think that there's like resentment between women and men the women resenting the men their age that don't want to have kids and don't have to and the women are like but i i feel guilty for resenting them because they don't they shouldn't have to and they're not biologically bound so why would they but then they're internalizing this resentment and lashing out against men i think there's some women who do. I think there's some women who do,
Starting point is 01:03:26 but I think there's some men who do. You know what I mean? My bigger concern is not like the individual. It's the, it's what we're encouraging and exacerbating in culture. I would ask that because I think I have some deep resentment against women that want to have kids with me at my age because they are on a time clock. I'm not, and I know they are, and I shouldn't feel that.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It's hard to feel the pressure, yeah. Well, I think that's why you more often see a younger woman and an older man. I think it kind of makes sense. The men at a later age are more financially stable, more mature, and they're better able to raise a child where the younger woman is both more fertile. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:10 So I think that that combination makes more sense. So I would say, you know, if you're a young 20 something year old girl, probably don't date guys that are in their young 20s because most of them, you know, they don't want to have kids right now. They don't have to maybe go a decade up or so. That's just my opinion. And now here's the really offensive part for the feminists. The kind of person who's going to be writing an article consistently or writing articles consistently is not likely to be, you know, a stay-at-home mom who's got kids and dealing with them. You tend to see the careerist feminists who are in these positions at media outlets with the time and energy to write these articles.
Starting point is 01:04:52 So their perspective is that of one type of person, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. As a stay-at-home mom, you don't really have as powerful as a voice, I would say. Right. Definitely. It's really fascinating to see all these feminist writers. And it's no surprise then that many of the women who work in digital media are feminists because, you know, they don't want to have families. They want a career and they want to fight for that. That's their opinion. That's why they're there or one of the reasons. And
Starting point is 01:05:18 they're going to write those opinions over and over and over again. Then it's interesting because I wonder how that affects other women who know it's like, hey, I want to have a kid before this age. But everything you read from every woman in a high-profile media position is saying, don't have kids, freeze your eggs. I was thinking if my mom had focused all the energy she focused on me and my brothers into the world, it would have been very bad for the world
Starting point is 01:05:41 because she was very neurotic, not in a harmful way, but the neuroticism as a personality trait, uh, overly just micromanaging and wanting everything to be perfect. And for me to not be, uh, exposed to the wrong thing.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And like, if she had been doing that to other people, I think that would have been devastating. So I see your point. Interesting point. I don't know. These people are blogging and as opposed to treating. so you and I,
Starting point is 01:06:04 when I look at this chart from Zach Goldberg and you can see that consistently there's a gap between men and women, except for moderates between 50 and 64, men are more likely to. This is fascinating. Check this out. Among white moderates, men are more likely to have been diagnosed with a mental illness by about one percentage point. You want to know what I think that might be? 50 to 64 years old. Div war veterans boom oh yeah vietnam korea maybe yeah yeah even iraq at this point the first iran war 93 yeah jeez god yep years ago which was way more brutal than we heard about in the news 20 years ago some of these guys might have been 30 years old and and they might have had a career in the military, and now they're getting deployed, so they've seen some stuff. But that's only one group.
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's only moderates. I mean, among liberals, it's not there. Among conservatives, it's still women. That's only 1%, yeah. But I wonder, why is it, and no matter what you say, you're going to offend somebody, that women consistently report having more mental health conditions? Is it because women are more willing to go to the doctor? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Probably. Or is it because men are big and strong and, you know, nothing's going to get me down. Depression? I'll punch it out of myself. I'll just forget about it. Guy wakes up. He's like, I'm depressed today.
Starting point is 01:07:21 So he punches himself in the face. He's like, no, I'm not. I'm pretty sure that would be a mental illness. Maybe you should go to the doctor. Yeah, I think seeing a therapist and meeting you have a problem is seen as a weakness to men. I don't want to acknowledge my own neuroses. Who does? I feel stupid when I do that.
Starting point is 01:07:42 And I feel like I'm creating it when it wasn't there. I think for me, it's more I'm too arrogant. Not in that I'm like, no one's going to tell me I'm weak. It's kind of like, no, I self-analyze and I self-diagnose. And then I try to assess and solve any things that I see in myself. So when I'm feeling depressed, when I'm anxious, when I'm angry, I kind of question and think about it and try and figure out what's conducive to a positive working environment or to my goals. And if this thing I'm feeling isn't doing that, then I need to navigate that myself. And I do.
Starting point is 01:08:15 And it works for me. Are you more self-reliant than a woman who may see a benefit in talking to another person about it? Talking. Or a man. Yep. Or a man, sorry. Self-re man. Yep. Or man, sorry. Self-reliance. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:27 How do you build that trade up? I don't know. Practice. Go wander through the woods for a few days by yourself and learn how to survive, I guess. Did you in the early days? Responsibly with your cell phone? YouTube videos in the early days.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Would you just hyperanalyze your behavior? No. You never just poured over your videos it was like watching yourself and thinking like oh that i have that trait i don't like i can't watch no it's the comment sections that do that for me yeah right tim shur says listen a whole lot i'm like i know i've learned a lot about myself from reading the comment section yeah you've got a decentralized network of people talking about what you're doing wrong it's like it's great you know when when when they're in good faith but even when they're not it's funny because there's a lot of people who will claim i claim i say something too much
Starting point is 01:09:14 not realizing that there's like a period where for like a few days i'll say one thing too much and then it goes away that does happen to people yeah go through phases of like sayings and stuff or even like the way we talk like accents sometimes you'll be your posture probably for a few days will be a certain way yeah there's a period where I would say at the end of the day like ten times in a video yeah and then people are like dude you say all the time I'm like that's a good point I should stop saying and then there was like a then like when I was trying to correct it, I'd be recording
Starting point is 01:09:45 and I'd be like, look, anyway, at the end of the day, then I'd stop and I'd be like, okay. Self-correcting. I love it. So anyway, and then I'd go and I'd chop it out. Oh, nice. Do a clever edit so you can't see it. I got a question.
Starting point is 01:09:57 So do you think this is why the APA thinks that masculinity is toxic or whatever? Because guys don't go to therapists because they do things like self-analyze and tend to be stoic and they don't really want to talk about their feelings you think probably what's apa stand for american psychological association i think the the reality is that there are some men who are just weak pathetic they can't handle the realities and there are some strong men who just don't need to be told what's wrong with them. I'm kidding. But in all seriousness, there are some guys that are stoic and calm and pragmatic and rational. And there are some guys who do need help who feel like they can't do it because they have to emulate these other kind of guys.
Starting point is 01:10:37 You know what I mean? So for me, like I said, I don't think there's any kind of sitting down and talking to someone about my feelings that's ever going to help me in any way. It would absolutely waste my time. And I'd be frustrated and angered by it. If I have an issue and I'm feeling some way, I have to, like, navigate in my brain and, like, draw it out, figure out what it is, what's bothering me. Okay. Now we can move forward.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Here's our plan. Sitting down and talking with someone would be like, I'd be looking at going you're going too slow for me i need to solve this problem in five minutes not an hour this doesn't work but there are a lot of people that do need that person and they're scared to talk about it because they want to be seen as tough they don't want to be seen as weak they need to do it people need to realize about the individual man it's about you you need what you need so i'll tell you this the one thing you should always do is don't care what other people think about you people are like you went you went to the doctor. It's like, I did. I felt like I needed it. Then you should do it. You should absolutely do it.
Starting point is 01:11:31 So, you know, one of my favorite quotes from Marcus Aurelius is that even a soldier needs the help of his fellow soldiers. And I was thinking that to me speaks about the psychology of men, even back in the Roman empire. Like this is something that he knew that people needed to hear, especially guys. You have to put it in a way that guys understand and sympathize with. I definitely feel like, for me personally, when I hear the narrative of guys being too macho and not wanting to go to the doctor, it really feels like a woman's perspective. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I don't hear that from guys. I swear to God, in in my life i have seen a guy cry a handful of times uh i've talked to my friends and i've i've rarely if ever had a guy be like i need help and like crying about their depression but i have had guys who've done that i have i have seen people who have lost loved ones who have lost you know their dog or whatever and it's devastating and they're in pain and they want to talk about it, or they want to be alone and just work through their feelings. But I definitely feel like, for me personally, whenever I hear this narrative,
Starting point is 01:12:32 you know, oh, so many men are hurting and they're too scared because they have to be macho, I'm like, I just think that women are more emotional than guys. And that's okay. Yeah, that's totally fine. That's, yeah. Just putting that out there. I guess if you're talking to the constructivists, though, this whole conversation is bannable.
Starting point is 01:12:50 That's right. Because they believe everything's blank slate, you know? It's like they say there's no difference between men and women, and then they do the transsexual thing. It's like they're, I just don't get it. It seems like inconsistent. It should be a moot point, right? So you're admitting that you're a bigot i'm just saying like they're saying it seems like they're saying there's no difference between men
Starting point is 01:13:11 and women women are not more emotional than men and then they say there's a transsexual thing where you can switch genders because genders are different and it's like well so so this this is an interesting thing you need to understand there's actually two generations of thought in the trans community. There's the binary trans and the non-binary trans. So there have been some very prominent trans women canceled, you know, attacked and harassed by the Gen Z trans gender individuals because in their ideology, it's gender non-binary, gender spectrum. So it doesn't necessarily mean that you're transitioning from male, you know, man to woman, you're literally just moving between this, this, this spectrum. So some people are
Starting point is 01:13:50 gender fluid, which means they can trans back and forth, depending on the time of the day. And there's a bunch of other genders where they say it fits at some point on a scale of one to a thousand, you know, I'm a 327 leaning, you know, male or whatever. But for the older generation, it tends to be more binary trans. So some of the, you know, some of the friends that I have were definitely in the category of more binary. They genuinely believed they were only two genders, only two biological sexes, etc. Now, when those people go online and post these things, they get attacked and harassed by the younger generation that believes it's a spectrum. I think one of the interesting ways to describe the difference in the ideologies is the common, the colloquial terminology, assigned male at birth or
Starting point is 01:14:38 assigned female at birth. So that's this, it's a, a in my opinion a strange way of looking at it and it fits into this idea that male and female don't exist when in fact they do male and female literally exist you don't look at a giraffe and then say we don't know if it if it's male or female because it hasn't told us you literally just say well you know we looked at and we can see it's there there yeah it comes down to like this argument about the nuance between understanding and how you quantify things. And it's not always easy to create a criteria for quantification. But there's typical understanding. Male and female is a reference to the – what are they called?
Starting point is 01:15:17 Gametes? Is that the right word? Yeah. The sex cells. The sex cells that they produce. And then whenever you say that, you'll get know one of these left individuals saying so a person who can't produce them anymore is no longer and you're like the exceptions yeah yeah it's just but it's such a little but anyway long story short it's not a unit there's no unified ideology in
Starting point is 01:15:38 gender ideology and so what happens then is like twitter's rule set and YouTube's rule set doesn't fit either one. It goes for both, creating this fractured, all-encompassing and broken contradictory rule set in many regards. So it's very confusing to navigate. Humans are animals. We always got to remember that. We're part of the animal kingdom. Always have been, always will be. And unless we evolve to a different species, but the Homo sapien is an animal.
Starting point is 01:16:09 And when we're born, we have sex organs. Now, you can always re-identify gender and what that means and i think they're like you're saying their terms of service are trying to to acknowledge both like you can still kind of have the biological argument but they're trying to placate or make sure that people don't get hurt i'm sorry i gotta aren't trampled on or that people have the right to artistically express their gender beliefs and things like that i have a i have a i have a red line in this you know i mean it's like uh civil rights for everybody people should be allowed to uh defend themselves to live be happy to be free from violence if we're all paying taxes then we should be allowed to share in you know the bounty of whatever those taxes are supposed to be paying for even blowing up kids right which is the bad part of it but hey that's a reality and that's the kind of stuff we don't want to happen the long story short is i would love for you know my my
Starting point is 01:16:52 transgendered married friends to be armed to the teeth and buying their drugs with bitcoin and be free from oppression from the government because they want to be in private on their farm you know what i mean very pro-liberty protect the people let them protect themselves and let them do their thing uh i i guess for me i have a hard line on this idea that male and female don't exist like that's clearly just not true and it's becoming this weird anti-science movement where i turn on the tv and they say outright like the assigned male at birth like you weren't assigned it you were you were like you know it's like red maybe they could say identified male at birth maybe it would make more sense because then i guess what they're trying to say is that there
Starting point is 01:17:29 are some people who are intersex and so if they're born and they appear to be male a doctor could say you are when you're not and then i guess identified by doctor as would make more sense why are we changing the complete language because of this small minority of people like it doesn't make sense it could be that it's it's an evolution of our species and now we're in the we're in the early ages of multi-sex um organisms that are we've been evolving into the issue is authoritarianism that's that's the only issue i have if you try to force people to do things but there's a there's a range uh the statistics show it's between like you know point i think it's like 0.6 percent to like 1.3 percent of people that are
Starting point is 01:18:10 non uh they don't fall perfectly into xx or xy yeah and if we're then going to try and navigate how we respect a you know 1.3 on the high end or even you know 0.6 that's still a lot of people and i have no problem being like hey man know, let me know what makes you comfortable. I'm here to work with you and things like that. The problem is the authoritarianism. So like if someone comes to me and just says, by the way, you know, this is how I prefer to be addressed. I just be like, OK, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:38 If the government comes out and says you must or else, I'd be like, I don't know about that one. It is really weird though there's this case going on right now where a teacher refused to refer to a trans student by um i think miss or i'm not sure maybe it was mister and then he referred to the student who was you know assigned female at birth as the nomenclature says and got sued got in trouble got threatened and then he filed a lawsuit saying his free speech i just find it interesting right if a teacher was like i'm not gonna call you what you want to be called you know what i mean like when regardless of whether it's a pronoun what if the teacher was
Starting point is 01:19:12 like hey dingus it's like my name's bill i don't care dingus i can call you whatever i want right you know what i mean so it's kind of like not even necessarily humiliation but disrespectful i get the idea that people are like i believe in using language this way and forcing someone to change how they speak because pronouns aren't someone's name. Pronouns are a function of language, not an individual. I just think there's also an interesting argument. Be like, what if a teacher is calling you an insult? Would we be like, don't call them? What if he called you not even an insult and just called you like the wrong name over and over again?
Starting point is 01:19:43 Yeah. And didn't care. Acknowledging. And then you kept complaining like like that's not my name you know i wish the teacher would get my name right they'll probably be reprimanded by the school i would imagine that's a good point um or the all right we're gonna read this article because we had this pulled up before and uh a lot i'm gonna tell everybody right now before we read this article i'll tell you the one thing everybody we hear the most of from guests and in conversations.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Not everybody says this, and it's a small minority of people who do, but we've had people come in and say, I'm more than happy to do the show so long as you don't ever ask me questions about transgenderism or trans people. And I'd be like, I mean, if there's news, there's news. If there's not, there's not. And I got to tell you, if someone comes on the show and they're like, I mean, if there's news, there's news. If there's not, there's not. And I got to tell you, it's if someone comes on the show and they're like, I won't talk about this. And there's no point in asking because they'll just not interact with you. And that'll be a really weird conversation where you're like, so what do you think?
Starting point is 01:20:35 And they just don't say anything. So it's like, all right, I guess. And the reason for it is almost no matter what you do, you get attacked when you bring this stuff up. Well, I don't know what else to do, but yeah, talk about it. We had the story from the New York Post. CNN ridiculed for saying there is no consensus for assigning sex at birth. The New York Post reports, CNN is being ridiculed online for insisting there is no consensus criteria for assigning sex at birth, with critics telling the network to look just below
Starting point is 01:21:01 the waist for insight. The left-leaning network statement was quickly shared online after it appeared in a news story Wednesday about South Dakota banning transgender athletes from women's sports. It's not possible to know a person's gender identity at birth, and there is no consensus criteria for assigning sex at birth, CNN's Devin Cole wrote. Critics quickly ripped the outlet for reporting it as straight fact rather than attributing it to others and noting differing views. Quote, I've gotten used to a lot of woke craziness, never thought I'd see biological sex in scare quotes, a Twitter user wrote. CNN isn't a news organization, they're straight up activists. Online media critic Lee Sabatka wrote, while conservative
Starting point is 01:21:39 commentator Ben Shapiro said only an idiot would believe the network's claim. Others suggested a simple solution. I'm not a doctor, CNN, but if you look just below the waist you may get some insight and then they just they're just quoting a bunch of twitter users ragging on cnn but cnn literally did this when did this come out when did cnn do that a couple a couple days ago last week yeah i mean the story is from yesterday and we were thinking about talking about a lot of people don't you know want to bring it up it It's a hot potato. That's dumb. It's dumb? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Can I talk about it? No. Biological sex is real. It is real. It's how we make more people. Yeah. You either got that or this. I think one problem with this.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Well, hold on. Hold on. To be fair. Or intersex. Right, right. So that's the issue at hand is that you do have a lot of people who are like, it's either that or this. Right, right? Biological sex is real. To say there's no consensus criteria for assigning sex at birth, I don't like the phrase assigning it. That's very activist-y. They identify you as, the doctor sees it and says, this is what the baby is.
Starting point is 01:23:01 And they can be wrong and they have been wrong there's some prominent activists who were incorrectly identified because they were intersex like there's one woman who is actually biologically male based on dna and the issue was i i forgot what the syndrome is called but did not develop like the the testes did not produce testosterone so now they very much this individual looks very much female even though genetically is male and so then when you have a doctor say that and they realize that's not true it doesn't fit how they feel and they actually want to be a man like yeah that that makes sense these people are real they exist you know making sure we protect the rights of all people is part of the conversation but when you get activists coming out and saying actually
Starting point is 01:23:44 there's no biological sex it's like okay what i got from this is this writer said there's difficult or challenging to uh establish gender identity at birth and then immediately in the next sentence said biological sex or as if they were the same thing they're not no gender identity and biological sex are different. Yeah. Yep. And they used to make that argument. That used to be their strongest case. They were like, gender isn't sex. Sex isn't gender.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Who would ever possibly confuse the two? Yeah, that's what I learned in my college. Exactly. In my sociology classes. And now it seems like it's flipped, where it's like there's no such thing. Yeah. I think that's due to the media. I think it's due to a bunch of really dumb people who work in media who don't understand things, who write about things and conflated them and made the mistake. For real.
Starting point is 01:24:30 So what happens is you'll get some like intellectual saying, well, biological sex does exist. Gender is the social constructs that have formed around the biological sexes. And thus people could identify between any of, you know, any in between or outside of gender. In fact, if it is a simple social construct, then certainly someone could make up their own social construct. And that's an intellectual argument. And then someone who works for like the New York Times or Huffington Post goes, biological sex ain't real. Because they didn't understand the actual argument being presented. Over time, it morphs into, you're not male. So this is another issue I take when they say someone is like,
Starting point is 01:25:08 they're a transgender person transitioned to male or female. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. Between man or woman. I thought it was trans woman, not trans male. I thought that was offensive to say. But it's really hard to keep up with. It's another reason why a lot of people just refuse to talk about this stuff. Because what you say today could be offensive next week.
Starting point is 01:25:25 It could be the right thing to say today, offensive next week. Case in point, Wemixin. Do you know about Wemixin? Wemixin. Have you heard that? No. It's women with an X. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Okay, I did. I've never heard it pronounced. I just saw it. Who knows? So it's Wemixin. Wemixin. The X is supposed to symbolize the symbol for trans. And so they changed the O to an X.
Starting point is 01:25:48 It might work in written language, but in spoken language, it's confusing. And people are like, Wim Exin. Yeah, I didn't know what you were talking about. Right, exactly. I've seen it on Twitter, but yeah. Yeah, it's a very, very online thing. Regular people probably don't understand. Well, when that word was made, it was appropriate.
Starting point is 01:26:03 And then for some reason, a month later, it became offensive. You know, a couple months later, some organization used the word and got attacked. How dare you use that word? Trans women are women, so you don't need to say Wemexen. Then a year later, they started using Wemexen again. So it's like, no matter what you do, someone will claim, someone will say it's wrong. It's like I mentioned before, the uh circular firing squad or mexican standoff where they're all staring at each other waiting for anything they can use as an infraction so people don't want to talk about this importantly
Starting point is 01:26:32 i think don't don't ridicule it and and not publicly if you're going to talk about it do not ridicule this don't be mean to people yeah as easy as it is to be like well that seems stupid to me so let's make a joke don't do it it's not stupid to everybody and it won't be in the future it'll probably be more important to other people so you just you know you know what bothers me about a lot of conservatives is their desire to be mean like i'm smarter and better and you're dumb so i'm not saying every single one of them but i see it i see it a lot and i'm like i don't like that you know i don't i don't like someone who's like they would approach a story like this by laughing and ridiculing and being mean.
Starting point is 01:27:06 And I'm like, dude, but you don't win arguments by doing that. You know, a good example is when Milo Yiannopoulos fat shamed a guy at a gym. Oh, yeah. And I was like, I asked him, I was like, why would you do that? And he was like, it works. And I'm like, it already worked. The guy's in the gym. Now you're going to scare him off the gym.
Starting point is 01:27:23 What are you doing, man? You know, like, I understand that there are people who believe fat shaming works because It already worked. The guy's in the gym. Now you're going to scan him off the gym. What are you doing, man? I understand there are people who believe fat shaming works because it makes you want to lose weight and get active. But the guy in the gym? He's already there. You won. He's doing it. He's fighting.
Starting point is 01:27:37 That's the kind of guy. Beyond not nice, it's ineffective. What's your real goal there productive someone actually was saying that we were talking about something about mental illness and uh how we were being like kind of kind and like you know people need help people need help in society but that i had been too hard on people that are obese and that i'm i'm treating it like it's not a mental illness and i think they might be right because i've been you know i'm a huge foodie and into sugar and make the best bread make the best bread everybody comes here and they're like, what was that bread like Ian made? I'm like, wow.
Starting point is 01:28:08 And I'm like, obesity is a problem. And I do believe obesity is a problem, but I do not want to ostracize people that have that problem. This is a guy, ladies and gentlemen, who complains about the sugar industry and then makes the best bread. I know. A little bit of sugar goes a long way. People, people, people. It's like a fresh bread and they cut a slice of it and people are like impressed every time. And then you go and complain, but the sugar is bad and you're the one giving it to them. Two teaspoons of white granulated sugar for five cups of flour.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Four and a half cups of flour. Is that your secret technique? It was actually from Paula Deen. I'll give you the skinny. That recipe is a Paula Deen recipe. Wait, was she the racist one? Yes. Paula Deen pizza dough, that recipe.
Starting point is 01:28:51 So you're a hypocrite and a racist. Apparently I support a racist. I didn't even know. Oh my gosh. But Ian, I wanted to ask you, have you ever watched My 600-lb Life? No. I did, and I was really struck by the fact that I didn't watch it as a show. I've seen the commercials. No, it's okay. I watched 90 Day I was really struck by the fact that I didn't watch it like as a show. I've seen the commercials.
Starting point is 01:29:05 No, it's okay. I watched 90 Day Fiance. It's okay. So I actually, I watched some of it for a speech that I wrote and I was like, it's never about food. It's always about something else. These people are abused. They're being enabled.
Starting point is 01:29:18 They've been manipulated. They're being like, their parents will go out and bring them to stuff because they can no longer leave their house. And it's like, it's not about food. The food is filling a gap. And we're lucky in America we can use it. We don't use alcohol like Russians do. There's always a coping mechanism.
Starting point is 01:29:34 Yeah, it is a coping mechanism, food. I can see that. You were talking about conservatives just being mean. I want to clarify, too. I want to clarify real quick. Yeah. There are some conservatives that like being mean it's yeah they want to trigger the libs and just do dumb stuff well i think a lot of conservatives complain about virtue virtue signaling which is true i mean
Starting point is 01:29:55 some stuff you just kind of have to roll your eyes at people like i'm such a great person blah blah but i think on the right there's also vice signaling i've seen it a lot over this COVID thing where people take selfies of them in the grocery store without a mask. And it's like, look at me. It's the opposite of virtue signaling. It's the same thing. It is still virtue signaling, though. It's just for their side.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Yeah, I call it vice signaling because it's, yeah, it's the same thing. Look at how bad I can be. Yeah, how bad I can be. Yeah. It's effectively the same thing. Look at how bad I can be. Yeah, how bad I can be. It's effectively the same thing. I understand your point, though, by signaling like when somebody goes on Twitter and just insults and berates somebody because the right is piling on. So I just am absolutely not a fan of that stuff. Yeah, like the whole like um megan markle thing like i looked at this i had
Starting point is 01:30:46 no opinion about it but i saw a bunch of conservatives attacking her and i'm just like did you care about this yesterday like i didn't i don't know yeah it's just they just want to be like rude i guess i i got hit up by fox they wanted to have me on so a lot of people saw me on fox talking about big tech and social media. There were some other instances where I've recently been on Fox as well, not on the TV, on like radio and other segments and around the time of the Meghan Markle thing. And so I get an email from a producer and they're like, can you talk about this? And I was like, I don't know anything about the royal family.
Starting point is 01:31:18 And they're like, oh, okay. It was, you know, it's big news. You have to have opinion on everything. I was just like, I purposefully avoid nonsense. The royal family does not have any... It's celebrity gossip for Americans. We fought a war. Yeah, we fought a war.
Starting point is 01:31:31 They don't have to worry about the royal family. I wonder how frequently they hit up people and they're like, the answer is always yes if I'm asked to go on TV because it's good for my career, even if I know nothing about it. So a lot of these people just feigning you know knowledge at least you had the the fortitude to acknowledge you didn't you weren't worth their time yeah you didn't seize the opportunity for your own selfish gain for for you know some advice i guess to say you know there are a lot of people who absolutely are like oh man i can go on tv tell
Starting point is 01:32:00 me what to say i never do that i'm like i don't have anything to say about the royal family i'm not interested like i've been invited on a bunch of big podcasts i say. I never do that. I'm like, I don't have anything to say about the royal family. I'm not interested. Like, I've been invited on a bunch of big podcasts. I say no. I'm like, eh. What am I going to talk about? You give me something I can talk about, maybe I'll do it. Otherwise, I don't know, whatever. I think if people just focus on themselves and
Starting point is 01:32:17 what they want to do and stay true to themselves, it's their better path forward. But going back to the thing about conservatives, we know that there are a lot of leftists who are virtue signalers, who will mock and grift and berate people on the right or just not the left and lie about them in order to earn points. I think a really good example is this show. Exactly. I had a big argument with this with this friend of mine. And what had happened
Starting point is 01:32:43 was I made a post about the chauvin trial like here's what happened this is crazy this is huge for the defense the defense basically said george floyd had od'd before and had similar symptoms at the time of his arrest here and we learned that according to his girlfriend the dude with floyd was their dealer so i'm like this is huge for the defense because a third degree murder in minneapolis is if you provide a substance to someone that kills them that's your fault so that's this other guy's fault which could present very serious reasonable doubt as to what happened with floyd and who was responsible and so you know someone comes in and they say oh here comes tim pool's confirmation
Starting point is 01:33:18 bias and all of his you know cult followers don't want to read the actual news and i had a conversation with this person i was like you need to understand what happened cult followers don't want to read the actual news. And I had a conversation with this person. I was like, you need to understand what happened here. You don't watch my show. You don't know the opinions expressed on this show. You don't know the opinions of the people who comment on the show. And you look at it and immediately assume if we're saying the defense got a victory, you know, in today's hearing, you assume it's a bunch of Trump supporting red hat wearing MAGA flag waving people, when in fact, it's a bunch of Trump supporting red hat wearing MAGA flag waving people, when in fact, it's a variety of people who are just paying attention. You come in acting like you know everything, and everyone starts trying to explain to you calmly,
Starting point is 01:33:54 and you get angry. This is what happens for a lot of people. They walk into a room where people are saying, wow, the defense and the Chauvin trial, this is big. I mean, it's not perfect. And then all of a sudden, they're like, what is this? A bunch of MAGA conservatives? You guys are all biased. And then when people try saying, listen, listen, here's the guy who was the dealer. Here's what the judge said about the guy about Floyd putting the tablet in his mouth. And they're like, I don't know what you're talking about. I watched Rachel Maddow. So I know everything. Instead of having that rational conversation, they get mad and assert that they're right and you're wrong it's a really amazing you know thing i think it's it's it's definitely a vice when people assume it's not me who's wrong it's everyone else it's like yo if everywhere you go you smell crap take a look at
Starting point is 01:34:35 your boot yeah that's my how do you stay friends with people like like that is that more of a just like you're forcing yourself to stay social do you feel like loyalty to them because you've known them for a long time? I treat everybody with a certain level of respect. If they're someone I've known for a long time, I'm not going to treat a person better just because I know them. You know what I mean? I try to be fair. For someone I don't know,
Starting point is 01:35:02 I suppose if there were two people hanging on the side of a cliff and I knew one of them, I'm going to save that person over the person I don't know i suppose if like there were two people hanging on the side of a cliff and i knew one of them like i'm gonna save that person over the person i don't know i guess it depends though i mean these are tough questions right like let me ask you and you see you're you're standing there and there's a cliff and you've got your mom hanging but then you've got a seven-year-old girl hanging the other side which who would you save my god it's a tough question right the personal desire to save your mother or the potential the potential of the child she would want me to save the kid yeah probably that's a good point so i would well there you go it's not it's not an easy question for everybody yeah these are tough questions it's like in spider-man you know in the in the movie when he had Mary Jane and the school bus full of kids.
Starting point is 01:35:46 He saved them both because he's Spider-Man. That was my initial thought. That's cheating. So use your web shooters to save both of them at the same time, and we're good. Got it. Yeah. I don't know. Not easy questions, man. How about we go to Super Chats?
Starting point is 01:35:59 Yes, this time. If you have not already, my friends, smash that Like button. And become a member over at timcast.com because um looks like we're not going to have the website up but this is this is okay there's actually a really obvious reason for it that i didn't consider and yet that reason is what's that why the website will not be be launched as of today beta testing what's today april 2nd no no what's today uh friday oh yeah it's friday weekend it's friday yeah which friday oh it's good friday it's a good friday it's a holiday a lot of people they were like you know
Starting point is 01:36:32 look it's good friday easter sunday okay so it's a four-day weekend and i was like oh okay okay okay okay i'm not gonna tell anybody to work on good friday and through the weekend for easter it's like i get it man so uh but anyway go to TimCast.com because I think early next week, hopefully, but regardless of the format of the website, we are preparing shows and we want to get started on this stuff. Ian was talking about some developers and doing this open source technology
Starting point is 01:36:55 and just kind of going crazy and building out technology and tools that are going to make the world a better place but also making good content. We're going to do a lot, man. We're slowly seeding everything we need. We've got some people joining really soon to start producing more content. And it's a common. So make sure you sign up.
Starting point is 01:37:13 And don't forget to like the video if you haven't already. Subscribe to the notification bell and share this show if you really do like it. All right, let's see. We got a ton of super chats. As always, it seems like YouTube has made it so I can't read the name of the first Super Chat. I can't see it. Can't read it. It says, Suggestion.
Starting point is 01:37:32 Imagine nerdy version of Jordan Peterson that analyzes cartoons, animated games, and tries to teach important life lessons like that. Incredible editing to make it as epic and entertaining as possible. Tim, you have to check out the channel, The Meaning of Nerd. Oh, interesting. Oh, well, there you go. Snowboard Dan. Oh, this must be a mistake. He says, happy birthday, Ian.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Oh, thank you, Dan. It is Ian's birthday. It is, ladies and gentlemen. It is Ian's birthday. 42 years old on 4-2, which I didn't see coming until yesterday. Very cool. And they said it's the meaning of life in that one book. It'd be funny if after the show ends, we go downstairs and all of a sudden Ian starts
Starting point is 01:38:08 floating and a beam of light comes around him and his eyes are glowing. That is going to happen. And then he just starts firing gigantic lightning bolts and blowing everything up and people are running and screaming. What's happening? He said it would happen. I feel like I'm wrapping the first trimester of my life right now that i'll go to like 150 or 120 with all this life extension stuff and a lot of it's going to be like it's going to be a different
Starting point is 01:38:30 version of life like an outer space like a different hopefully weird you are a trip man you just found this out the audience is like that's ian yeah uh someone just challenged me to a fight oh jayvon cronin says the only thing i have ever disagreed with tim about is how you say mcdonald's like wtf is mcdonald's tim you don't know mcdonald's is i guess if you grow up in in the city we jokingly call it mcdonald's it's like meant to be a silly way to say McDonald's. Not Sheriff, really? It's McDonald's, huh? Interesting. Old MacDonald's. It's a silly way
Starting point is 01:39:11 to be like McDonald's instead of McDonald's. Good old, what is it, Scottish food? Oh, yeah, sure. Oh, let's see here. Trey Allen says, I'm glad your Puritan capitalistic nature could not let you take today off. And we're all thankful, Tim and team. Yes, it's Good Friday.
Starting point is 01:39:31 But I'm not. Good Friday is specifically Catholic or Christian. It's Christian. Yeah. And it's the day before Jesus rose from the dead. No, it's the day where he died. Oh, geez. And then Sunday is where.
Starting point is 01:39:42 It's a bad Friday. So they crucified him on like wednesday and they let him hang there for two days and then he died is that what it is dude stabbed him yeah geez he suffocated to death on the cross is the gold gotham real the what the gold gotham uh yeah the hill gold gotham that's gold the gold gotham what is it what's from dogma where uh uh uh what's it asriel summons the the demon made of human feces no that would be a no oh okay bible sorry i heard my last name crossland is from crossland hills in england i haven't confirmed but i think it's where they used to crucify people interesting yeah you should go
Starting point is 01:40:17 there yeah find out the truth cross all right let's see oblivion says iowa governor reynolds signed constitutional carry into law today took too long but it's nice to have a right restored for a change repeal the nfa wow always amazing to hear about constitutional carry that is an amazing thing what state iowa cool that's great remind me to visit iowa walk around with a barrett m82 carrying it getting really tired because it's a heavy thing to carry yeah and people are gonna laugh and be like i get you're trying to make a point but come on anyone can do that it's a grenade launcher right no no it's an anti-material rifle 50 bmg yeah so you know taking out helicopters
Starting point is 01:40:56 and tanks and buildings you know what i mean when you need to matt burkhart says hey tim would you consider having jonathan which uh Witchman on your show? He's from Wisconsin running for governor in 2022. Great candidate. Center right. He doesn't really have the resources to become a mainstream candidate. Perhaps. We don't like to take suggestions because people then turn the Super Chat into a suggestion machine.
Starting point is 01:41:19 But, you know, we're always looking to people. Taddy Mason. Taddy Mason. All right. Taking time off from talking to Jerry says, happy birthday ian tim love what you do it's extremely important to promote people to think critically but i'll catch the podcast in the morning gotta get back to the jam night on acas hey there you go all right thank you ransom puppy says hey tim just wanted to ask you if you've heard about the band uh anol not not Rock. Their latest music video
Starting point is 01:41:45 and document seem to be very anti-establishment. I highly recommend checking it out if you're into death metal. Not really. Not a big death metal person. I don't know what to say. Creative. Sam Ray. Uh-oh. This is racist.
Starting point is 01:42:02 He says, Asians make far better stuff. Japan with Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Sony, Seiko, plus Tokyo is super clean and wish the general American public can learn more from their culture. Tim, do you have a watch collection? Seiko, I do not have a watch collection. I will say, Tokyo
Starting point is 01:42:17 is awesome! Man, it's a really different culture, I'll tell you that. You know, there's a bunch of – I'll try to be family friendly. There are a bunch of businesses for men to relieve themselves in adult manners. Oh, okay. They're literal like – I saw this sign everywhere when I was in Tokyo. And I was like, what is this?
Starting point is 01:42:39 I was like, I didn't know what it was. And then my fixer, which is a local Japanese woman, she was like, oh it's you know and then she explained to me that guys you know every so often they got got urges and needs and they go in there and there's like used underwear and jars and like you know boxes you could buy it's a different place they're also with advancements in artificial intelligence and robotics they're uh aiding thanks for the recommendation industry yeah yeah they are super smart robotically. Robotically. It's very different. They have their own set of problems.
Starting point is 01:43:08 All right. Let's see. We got too many super chats today. Too many. Guys. Conti says, Tim, us, U.S. military just had extremist stand down training today. Even though they talk about Antifa, BLM, and supremacy are extremists, they only show videos from C-SPAN from January 6th and some shootings that was done by white people. Weird. Julian Powell says, can you please stop commenting on the thoughts of the
Starting point is 01:43:33 black community? None of you are black and most of your comments just come from stereotypes and inference. None of you are black, so you couldn't comprehend black life. Well, that's exactly my opinion. That's why when we had a comment from a nigerian immigrant i said i defer to you i wouldn't know i think there are a lot of people who do think they know on the right and the left and try and tell other communities what it's like it's the weirdest thing and it's the perfect example of one of the reasons i don't like what my serious problems with the critical race theorists is when i get some like uppity white progressive being like let me explain to you what it's like to be a marginalized person.
Starting point is 01:44:07 And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. We don't do that here. You don't come to me and bring that to me. Sorry. But respect, Julian. Absolutely. Brother Francis says, hi, guys. Wanted to apply to work for you guys.
Starting point is 01:44:18 It would be my dream career. I've sent some emails. Hope you guys can see them. Also wanted to contribute to BTC monthly. How can we set that up? It's very difficult to do and we haven't set it up, but Brother Francis, we will search for that email.
Starting point is 01:44:31 RosaBrand says, What used to be entertainment with books and movies, even video games, has turned into LARPing. That's what I saw in the last year's riots. Kids running amok are peeing. That's right. DrDoctor says, It's all play money. Shots on me tonight. While it's worth anything. I says it's all play money
Starting point is 01:44:45 shots on me tonight while it's worth anything I can make this back in experiences and hardships all in the process of making friends and family
Starting point is 01:44:51 as always thank you guys for doing you and Ian thanks for being the voice of unreason when there's too much there's too much of making sense gotta shake it
Starting point is 01:44:59 great P. Diesel has a comment for you Ian he says infantry comes from the french word infanteria meaning foot soldiers too experienced too inexperienced for cavalry oh so there is perhaps a relation between infant and experience i should go into the roman the
Starting point is 01:45:17 latin of that as well i'm curious arsian says here to promote my channel arsian i talk catholicism politics and more hey there you go very cool t Lomelino says hey gang love what is on the horizon but make it a mandatory daily obligation to get Adam Curry and no agenda is vital stay safe John uh am I familiar I don't know Adam Curry was like the founder of podcasts I think oh interesting kind of way to get a hold of that's fun John R says eating locally sourced honey will help with pollen allergies. I've heard that. Interesting. We're surrounded by farms, and we went to a farm and got a bunch of farm fresh meat.
Starting point is 01:45:53 It is amazing. I got to tell you, man, if you've had that store-bought bacon, you ain't had bacon until you have real bacon from a farm fresh. It's legit. Put it on the grill, and it's just like, wow. Real food is always so much better. Character Holding says, think it was hookworms. They secrete an enzyme that pacifies the immune system. They live in your intestines, clears up allergies.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Oh, maybe that's what it was. This is amazing. Ian, you were right. Neyrad Agava says, Ian is right. Infantry comes from the Latin root word Infans Meaning infancy It shows up later In the 1500s
Starting point is 01:46:28 As infante Meaning foot soldiers Too low in rank Too young Or too poor To be cavalry Very cool Well how about that
Starting point is 01:46:35 And we still use it It's a different system now Because those people Could be cavalry But they're put Into the infantry So maybe it's not About wiping their brain
Starting point is 01:46:41 But that's the And AOC wasn't wrong About the relation Between surge and insurgent oh yeah more uh surge meaning is the the root word is to to like a sudden flow uh and then insurgent was to sudden flow from the inside yes well so it was just like flow from within the original word surge was just like the way we describe surge it's the same meaning and then insurgent was a reference to like the action of surging
Starting point is 01:47:08 through. Yeah, so it became a reference to the people and the insurgents. So there's a similar root there. Baxter says, Tim, Strauss-Howe is for people not well read in history. He references World War II, Civil War, and Revolutionary War, but conveniently skips over World War I, Napoleonic Wars, etc.
Starting point is 01:47:23 There's always the case with these books. Strauss-Howe is just the latest meme people in D.C. are gushing over, because it's fun to think the world isn't so boring and we can predict the future. But you're right. It's probably true. Low and Light says, Tim, please have someone on that was there at the
Starting point is 01:47:41 Capitol on January 6th. Let's see. You would then stop flipping calling DC a riot or a siege. That is offensive and BS. Well, I've seen videos of people at the front gate bashing the windows and then people fighting them. I've seen the videos of the people running in and clashing with the police. And I've seen the video of having the door open i think there are people who are there who uh only like walked around and didn't realize what was going on at the capitol and think it was only the peaceful side
Starting point is 01:48:11 but we quite literally had uh i believe we had more than one of the journalists we did we had two yeah yeah who were down there telling us everything that was happening yeah like yeah richie was on like right after yeah the next day richie and jorge i think sideways says i'm 26 and single so instead of kids i get stressed out by building up and restoring uh modeling uh rest resto modeling old cars the issue may be lack of hobbies cars are my kids or cats cats don't recommend cats everyone get cats you'd be a cat person mastermind says ian's words about crimea inspired me to do my first super chat. That's epic, too. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Crimea stuff's crazy, man. I've been thinking about it the whole night. Russia is amassing troops. You were talking about this earlier. The Ukrainians just issued a draft on the April 1st. 16,000 or so Ukrainians are now drafted. They want to liberate, from what I've heard, they want to liberate Crimea. Russia's like, nope.
Starting point is 01:49:03 We're going to send tanks if you invade us, because Russia thinks Crimea is Russian. Ukraine thinks Crimea is Ukrainian. Wow. It's a messy situation, man. Yep. Corey Hill says, love the show, Tim. Please consider the legendary Mark Kern, a.k.a. Grums, as a guest for your show. He is a leader in pushing back against the insanity in the culture war and is a brilliant game developer. And for those that don't know,
Starting point is 01:49:25 if you've played World of Warcraft, I believe there's a ring called the Mark of Kern, or it may not be a ring, it may be just an item. It was named after Mark Kern, one of the OG developers of World of Warcraft, and Mark is rad, and I would love to have him on the show. I think I've dealt with him in the past periodically.
Starting point is 01:49:40 We should definitely reach out to him and have him on the show because he's a cool dude. He's working on a new video game too too and we can talk about that oh very cool yeah look him up razor tune says five months ago i released my first game i was hoping to bring some humor during the lockdown it never took off now and it may be too late maybe you could give it a shout out check out what is it corona Run on Steam 2D platformer. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:50:07 It's never too late. Yeah, it's never too late. Maybe, you know, people will find a fun game. Marcus Carter says, I'm a 37-year-old disabled combat veteran with a three-year-old child on life support since birth. I just started a pack, Shorting DC, because despite my problems, they are nothing to the problems we all face together if we don't recapture our government. Visit ShortingDC.org for more. Hey, good luck, Marcus, and thank you for your super chat. Michael Schwobel says, old quote, you don't become an adult until you have people that you are responsible for.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Definitely. Golins Thop says, I will send my kid to school. I can teach my kid many things, but I cannot teach them social interaction. They need to learn to deal with all kinds of people, especially how to deal with jerks and difficult people. Yes. Okay. Rob Brown says, I love this chick. There you go.
Starting point is 01:50:57 That chick. Awesome. Bonnie Bailey says, hugs Ian. Try to keep it together. You look so sad. I feel you, guy. Try to stay strong. Hugs.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Thanks. I think the war stuff got you down. you were like really serious or you're like the war's starting China's gonna take Taiwan you got me scared over here representative of World War 2 it's crazy man yeah you before the show you were talking about this and it's like
Starting point is 01:51:20 a really scary thought if Russia makes a move on Ukraine because it ceasefires over and other amassing troops, the U.S. will absolutely prioritize Ukraine. And then China will immediately seize Taiwan. And they'll point at Russians and say, hey, they're doing it. And then all the countries around the world that have a place they want to invade will start, will invade it.
Starting point is 01:51:39 They'll be like, America can't stop us all. And then the Russians and the Chinese won't fight each other at first, just like the Nazis and the Russians didn't fight each other at first until Germany invaded Russia. China is this imperialist monster, has been messing with Russia, may eventually invade Russia, and then the Russians will flip. Hopefully it doesn't happen. Hopefully it doesn't. Yeah. All right, let's see. Zuevobro.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Julie, it's Chris. Tell Alex I said hi. hi otherwise i love the show tim who's chris you don't know you don't know anybody named chris i do but i know a lot of julie it's chris tell alexis said hi oh hi chris you're gonna get a text later and they're gonna you're gonna go oh yeah there's like a million of you normies get out says mandatory military service for two years would solve this problem service guarantees citizenship would you like to know more i would like to know more i'm not convinced it would though i think it would make a bunch of rebels if if the government instated the draft as a mandatory requirement you would end up with a wave of insurgents like
Starting point is 01:52:41 this is america man you got to realize it doesn't matter if you're left or right there people are going to be like government can't tell me what to do people got guns too the draft i think that the vietnam draft like for the most part worked like most people were like okay i guess but a lot of people were like no a lot of people die dude like in vietnam yeah you know drafted yeah right a lot of people just said okay and went along with it but they didn't want to go yeah they didn't want to go to jail either exactly but the draft is pretty much slavery they didn't resist yeah definitely well some people did but still what i mean is most people didn't resist if the government if the government came out was like everybody dropped to your knees people would
Starting point is 01:53:18 go like okay because they don't want to go to jail right in the beginning of vietnam they they were it was very pro-war. People were into it. I guess. I've heard, especially in World War I, World War II, there was a lot of, you know, you're not a man if you don't go to war and that kind of thing. Yeah. A lot of pressure.
Starting point is 01:53:37 Joel Hart says, to quote Tom McDonald, you worry about leaving a better planet for our kids. How about leaving better kids for our planet? Oh. Mic drop. That's a good one. Yes. about leaving better kids for our planet? Oh, Mike drop. Yes. Mike drop. Tom McDonald. Kuya Chris says, hey, guys, some people are blaming Trump for all the Asian hate because
Starting point is 01:53:54 of the anti-China stuff. What do you guys think? I think it's an excuse from people who haven't been dealing with the actual racial problems in this country. In fact, I've been making it worse when they demonize Asians as white adjacent or actually more privileged than white people or even coming to the point where just in the past few months, they were like, Asians are white. Then all this stuff happens like, oh, don't look at me, dude.
Starting point is 01:54:18 These people went on racist tirades for years about Asian people. So I don't blame trump for that alex b says skateboarding such an amazing amazing and uh skill skill teaching experience the camaraderie relationships and experiences are character building i think so but i think skateboarding has become too mainstream in that it's it's it is yeah it's in the olympics. It's an Olympic sport. So now you've been seeing this over the past decade where it's like kids who have coaches and trainers. And it's like, we want to see 50 kickflips today. And it's just so different from what skateboarding. Establishment.
Starting point is 01:54:56 Yeah. So it's getting to a point where there's still that aspect of skateboarder culture. But I'd be willing to bet with the emergence of park skating is when we really started to see skateboard culture kind of go bad in a sense or lose its soul there are a lot of people who are like hey man times change and i'm like oh i totally get it like i i have this anecdote about watching the the the older generation wear baggy pants then my generation wore the skin tight pants and then the younger generation wore the flooded dickies where they're like they didn't go down to their ankles and i'm like and i was like word man do your thing feel good about yourself but that was still part there was still soul in that now
Starting point is 01:55:33 it's like cookie cutter corporate now it's like you watch some of these people and it's like oh man this is going to be boring it's going to be like you know burning man yeah where's the edge yeah it's just it's fine if skateboarding becomes a traditional american pastime corporate endeavor it used to be if you wanted to skate a certain way you had to go out in the streets because we didn't have parks now then parks exploded and then there's a lot of people now who are like why skate street they only skated a park it's considered not as like legit to do a trick at a skate park than if you did it in the in the actual streets because you're like conquering real terrain but i think we're getting danger like it's coming to the point
Starting point is 01:56:07 now where it's just going to be park skating you know so like the soul the original which maybe is a good thing because there's a lot of kids who act a fool and they'll like fight with cops or fight with security guards and one security guard got like killed because some guy shoved them and like you know it's whole a whole lot of bad stuff but you know it is what it is man you know we we don't own everything forever and sometimes things change gotta accept that i suppose so i'll just keep doing my thing and and stay real to myself downey jr says sex wasn't specifically banned in the uk we were banned from visiting other houses outside of bubbles outdoor meetups are allowed now and all retail opens on the 12th of april zero restrictions from june 21. A lot of people. No babies.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Carl Schneider says, Working hard and appreciating what you have worked for is the cure for the disease of communism. People who don't actually earn what they have are riddled with guilt. Vote for government to take care of the poor to ease their own conscience. Golan Stop says,
Starting point is 01:57:02 What do you guys think of adoption? I think it's fantastic. I like it. Yeah. That's a good idea i saw a video lydia sent me where a chicken adopted kittens yes i think that your family is not your blood relatives necessarily but what you're familiar with and you choose your family even if you feel like you're thrust into what you're born with you can always find another place to be familiar baby kittens you know cats like to be really warm so they lay on computers and so ladies send me this video where there's baby kittens and there's a chicken and the guy walks over to the chicken the chicken stands up
Starting point is 01:57:32 and the kittens are underneath it because the chicken's all like i got to keep these babies warm yeah and the cats are like we want to the kittens want to be warm you know those kids are going to grow up they're going to be like little chicken is my friend i love i love chicken you know that's right. I love those videos when animals get along and don't kill each other. All right, let's see what we got. Prometheus Prime says the problem with pro fam anti fam is simply a complex neo feminism has swapped the roles of men and women. Our country.
Starting point is 01:58:00 I disagree with that. But he says our country and people are under concentrated attack and their target is the family unit. China is hyper-masculinizing and we are regressive. They didn't swap the roles of men and women. Neo-feminism, for the most part, is erasing femininity. You know what I mean? Telling women to work jobs, freeze their eggs and just have kids later. They're not going to men and being like, men must be in the home.
Starting point is 01:58:26 They're going, women must be in the workplace. Women must be CEOs. There is advocacy for, well, men can be stay-at-home dads if they want. But where's the, men must be also running the home. The sentiment is not there. Not at all. So it's all pushing heavily into the masculine. This is making me think that maybe we actually do live in a patriarchy they just want us to be like men
Starting point is 01:58:49 they don't want men to be like women i mean a little bit maybe but that makes me mad ryan mcdougall says i'm a 36 year old single dad of an 11 year old girl having a kid is something you don't know how great it is until you raise your own jack the tech says it's not about the energy you have now, Tim. It's about having energy 10 to 15 years from now when you're pushing 50-ish and your kid wants and needs you there. Dude, I got energy for days. The Energizer Bunny. Either I'm a candle burning twice as bright by the time I'm 50, I'll be like, or I'm going to be like, you know, there's something to this is really out there.
Starting point is 01:59:29 But like Internet video and people thinking about you when they're watching. Because right now, like people are watching Tim's videos. Thousands and thousands of people are perceiving Tim and thinking about Tim and listening and hearing. So that energy is like bouncing off our stratosphere into his body. And yeah. Interesting. You think so? Yeah. Interesting. Possibly so.
Starting point is 01:59:48 All right. Troy, Bruce. I was going to add something. I don't know about you guys' family situations, but another benefit to having kids young that I didn't really think about is having your parents there to help you. Yes. Good point. That his grandparents, my son's grandparents have been there
Starting point is 02:00:05 to babysit and stuff like that. And because I wouldn't trust a stranger with my child, it was really helpful for them to be around. So just something
Starting point is 02:00:13 to think about. That's a great point. Yeah. Troy Bruce says, Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco upheld a Hawaii law
Starting point is 02:00:20 that bans residents from openly carrying firearms without a license that is issued only to those who can show they need the weapon to protect life or property. The line in the sand has been crossed. It may go to the Supreme Court. I believe it will.
Starting point is 02:00:33 But whether or not Supreme Court takes it is another issue. And if they do, the floodgates may be opened and constitutional carry may go nationwide. That would be amazing. Could you imagine if overnight it was just like, no state can ban someone from walking around with a gun. Keeping bare arms shall not be infringed. That'd be incredible. Beautiful.
Starting point is 02:00:53 In many places, particularly like Maryland, you have to prove you need the gun. Yeah. And you can't. Yeah. You can't. It's very, very hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:02 So typically they say if you transport large sums of money. Yeah. Or if you have like an active threat against you, they know about. But for the most part, they'll just deny you. And it takes like, what, six months or some ridiculous amount of time. Yeah. You have to have receipts that someone's trying to. Well, to be fair, the Constitution does say the right to keep and bear arms should not
Starting point is 02:01:20 be infringed only in the instance where the individual has a good reason for having the gun and can prove it to the government. oh yeah i didn't read that it's actually really small you know and people just overlook the text but it's there tiny tiny tiny it's in there i love the people who are like but the well-regulated militia part i don't care shut up you're wrong uh gray giannico says just a daily reminder that trevor still sucks yeah does he whoa yeah it's true i forgot definitely yeah yeah you were telling me earlier that trevor sucks yeah i hate that guy i don't know who trevor is i gotta feel bad for him i don't know who chris you're awesome trevor okay this guy okay trevor if you're out there you got a super chat now so that we you know yeah we gotta set the record straight let's go
Starting point is 02:02:03 all right let's see chad eldred says i know you've talked about it being too hard to book some people some more bookable names you might consider ian hutchison nuclear engineer fusion discussion bob murphy anarchist economist yes he's cool bob murphy yeah cool write this down it comes highly recommended by jul Borowski. Very cool. Oh, yeah. Danine S. says, maybe I missed something, but when talking about depression, people need to distinguish between situational depression and clinical depression. Clinical depression doesn't just look like crying and hopelessness. It can be anxiety attacks or numbness.
Starting point is 02:02:47 It can also be someone saying they don't feel like going out and they're bored and tired and they're you know their legs are sore yeah and a lot of people don't realize that sam good says hey bro i'm a veteran who was who has deployed i'm also pseudo-liberal conservative i see amazing from amazing from both sides of the voters on the spectrum right or left it'll flake both to turn around the world. It'll take both. Heck yeah, it will. Yep. Steph MLB says, Culture's big if one wants kids.
Starting point is 02:03:14 Easy to date, but men of value are hard to find with today's politics and weak men. She says, I'm Latina in med school, but also 27. Given the choice, I give up med for kids. Here is taboo. Why? Many can be doctors, but only I am able to carry on my lineage. Man. That's a good point.
Starting point is 02:03:34 Jeffrey N. Frazier says, great show, Tim. I would like to see you do a segment on TimCast.com with Pierogi from Scammer Payback about the scams that are happening and what can be done to stop them. Oh yeah, for sure. That'd be cool. Alright, let's see. We'll do a couple more super chats here. Just a couple more. Two more. happening and what can be done to stop them oh yeah for sure that'd be cool all right see we'll do a couple more super chats here just a couple more two more sonny james says just goes to show you anyone who might protest the state gets shot our government is equal opportunity shooters i'm
Starting point is 02:03:54 already seeing the woke crowd run defense for this killing well sometimes i can't read that part but i get your point oh spicy yep sometimes a little too spicy for youtube huh uh i just want to say to everybody who gave a shout out to Ian for his birthday, thank you for your super chat and happy birthday, Ian. Thank you. And to the people saying Tom McDonald is a guest, we absolutely would love to, but Tom's a very busy guy. So let's see. To No Spam says, Julie, I have a cool story.
Starting point is 02:04:20 W-R-T, Julie. With respect to Julie. Is that what that means? With regard to, yeah. Oh, with regard to. About two years ago, I bought a signed copy of her book, Nobody Knows How to Make a Pizza. Was quite amazed that she took time to write a note. Go, girl.
Starting point is 02:04:33 Oh, how very nice of you. Yeah, I do autographed copies, too. Oh, I love it. Yes. All right, we'll do one more. Bitcoin Hunter says, just had my first son. Congratulations. He is two months old, and I can't believe how much my life has changed in just two months very amazing congratulations man uh we're gonna do
Starting point is 02:04:50 one more aura karina says as a single father of a little girl in elementary school i find it weird that i'm the youngest father around and i'm in my 30s crazy times my friends well hey to everybody who hung out this friday night thank you so. Make sure you smash that like button before you go. Subscribe. Hit that notification bell. I wonder if we're going to break one million subscribers because we're very, very close. I hope so. Maybe not.
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Starting point is 02:05:51 where, like, I went off. We were talking about whether or not you should, like, what you should do in the event of a mugging. And I was very much like, I would rather die on my feet
Starting point is 02:05:59 than live on my knees. And if people were armed and could defend themselves, we wouldn't have these criminals in the first place. So, it gets a little spicy. And a lot of people were commenting. So, you might't have these criminals in the first place. So it gets a little spicy. And a lot of people were commenting. So you might like it.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Go to TimCast.com. Subscribe. Become a member. Check it out. And Julie, do you want to mention anything before we go? Sure. You can follow me on Twitter, Julie Borowski. YouTube, Julie Borowski.
Starting point is 02:06:17 I don't know. Just Google my name. You'll find something. You have some books? I do. I have Nobody Knows How to Make a Pizza. And I also have a new book, Peaceful Porcupine. And these are libertarian-ish?
Starting point is 02:06:29 Or how would you describe it? I don't like to say they're libertarian-ish because it sounds kind of cringe, like I'm trying to force political ideology on kids. I say they're educational and they teach kids about morality, especially Peaceful Porcupine. It talks about don't hurt other people, which is important, whether you're're libertarian or not because it'll jam quills into you and you'll deserve it yes non-aggression the armed porcupine peaceful but will defend himself yes that's exactly the point of the book there you go i think um jordan peterson talked a lot about the meek from the bible the meek shall inherit the earth and And meek wasn't like weak. It was the person with the big sword that chose not to use it.
Starting point is 02:07:06 Oh, I love it. Similar to the porcupine. Porcupines. Yeah. Or, you know, the,
Starting point is 02:07:10 the good, uh, the millions of American gun owners who don't commit crimes with their weapons. And the government comes and says, yeah, we want to take your gun away from you because some crazy guy did something.
Starting point is 02:07:20 No, man. Well, hello everyone. Thank you. Hey, thanks again for the birthday wishes. You guys,
Starting point is 02:07:24 this is really, really fun. Ian Crosland, you follow me in crossland.net get all my socials from there and i'm happy to see you guys again next week very cool and again ian happy birthday i know this birthday was a little bit of a downer for you i apologize that russia decided to do this today i don't blame you lydia what a what a cop out what a what a jerk anyway i'm sour patch lids on twitter and minds and real sour patch lids on Twitter and Mines and Real Sour Patch Lids on Gab and Instagram. You guys can follow me there. And before we go, I will read the last super chat from the philosopher.
Starting point is 02:07:52 Taxation is theft. Julie is awesome. Thanks for having her on. Thank you. Thank you all so much to everybody for hanging out. We will be back Monday and we'll see you all then. Bye, guys.

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