Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #260 - Half Chewed "SpeedBall" Drug Found With George Floyd's DNA On It w/ Brandon Tatum

Episode Date: April 8, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host former police officer and fellow YouTuber Brandon Tatum to discuss the breaking news in the Chauvin case, whether the state of Minnesota is trying to 'throw' the prosecution, and Hunter Biden's strange experience with parmesan cheese. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The trial of Derek Chauvin in the death of George Floyd continues. And man, I got to say after today and after the other day, to me, I think intent is off the table. I feel like if the jury sees what I see, and they probably don't because, you know, who knows? I don't think I'm always right about everything. But I look at this and I'm just like, wow, was it bad for the prosecution? I'll just give you a couple of big points. The defense apparently got Floyd's vehicle searched eight months later, found a speedball with his DNA on it. This is like the big story that's breaking right now. I mean, boom, right there, you've got causation changes. Who actually

was responsible for the death of George Floyd? Was it Maurice Lester Hall, his friend who was dealing? Or was it Derek Chauvin? Well, I'll tell you this. The state brought in a paid expert to testify to say the things the state wants the jury to hear. And in cross-examination, the defense said, based on active resistance, Derek Chauvin would have been in the right to immediately approach George Floyd and tase him. Tasers, as you know, can be lethal, cause cardiac arrest. The defense pointed out, however, Chauvin chose to use a

lesser force option of restraint. And the state's witness agreed that Derek Chauvin used lesser force. It's crazy because he had previously testified that using the restraint was excessive force and the defense effectively got him to say, well, couldn't he have used more? Yes. So it wasn't excessive. It was less. Yes. Boom. boom intent is off the table if chauvin had the opportunity to use more force decided not to do it and to use less i don't see how you prove he was trying to hurt this guy so we're gonna talk about all this we got a bunch of other stories too we got stuff about project veritas and we got gun control stuff we'll get into that joining us today is brandon tatum what's up what's up man glad to be here introduce yourself what do you do who are

you oh i'm brandon tatum some of y'all may know me. I'm online. I'm a little YouTuber guy. I speak around the country. I'm a former police officer. I was a police officer in Tucson for six and a half years. That's about it, man. But you're going to be able to give us a view into being a cop. You were a cop for what, like six years? Six and a half years, man. I was an FTO, just like Chauvin. I was on the SWAT team. I did a lot of stuff on the police department. I testified in court plenty of times.

So I think we could talk about some good stuff on this. This is going to be interesting. Considering the questions being posed by the state prosecutor and the defense, I think you'll have probably a really great take on it. So we'll jump into it. We got Ian Easton. Yeah, it's Ian Crossland over here. Just found out all our dads were firemen.

Yeah. Chief and a couple lieutenants. That was pretty cool. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, it's Ian Crossland over here. Just found out all our dads were firemen. Yeah. Chief and a couple lieutenants. That was pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Me in the corner pushing buttons. My father was not a fireman. I feel very left out, but I'm here.

Yeah, only the firefighters here. So, ladies and gentlemen, we want to jump into this news. Before we do, make sure you go to TimCast.com. Become a member to help support the show. We're going to have a special exclusive members-only segment after the show. So, if you want to watch that, go to TimCast.com. Become a member to help support the show. We're going to have a special exclusive members-only segment after the show. So if you want to watch that, go to TimCast.com, become a member. We've got a bunch of really awesome segments, even full-on episodes. We've got like a full bonus episode with Michael Malice talking about the keys to success.

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hears how his defense team found half-chewed speedball pill in patrol car with George Floyd's DNA on it eight months after cops searched it. So this is in the patrol car. So we already had this. I don't know if you saw this early on, Brandon. The judge said that it looked like George Floyd ingested something. He put something on his tongue, a pill or whatever. Now we got the all of this stuff is is it. All right. I just got to slow down. It's crazy. The defense has not even begun its case yet. The defense has not even brought in its own witness. And already we're hearing that Derek Chauvin could have used more force. That even one of the witnesses agreed with the defense that Chauvin's

knee was not on the neck, but in fact, between the shoulder blades. So this is all striking at intent. Now, the craziest thing about all this, with all this stuff going on, the media keeps telling you, because we talked about this last night, the media keeps telling you, oh, the cop said Chauvin bad. The cop said Chauvin couldn't do this. And they get all these people in the prosecution. They get all these cops coming up and saying like Chauvin shouldn't have done that. That was excessive force. And then the media comes out and says, see, look, this is it. They haven't proved that they haven't proven that Chauvin was innocent, not realizing the most important thing. The burden of proof is on the state.

The state can come out with all the cops in the world giving their opinion, but all the defense has to do is poke one hole in one argument and that's it. So now that we got the story dropping about a speedball, which is fentanyl and methamphetamine mixed together being found in the patrol car with Floyd's DNA on it, causation goes out the window.

Now it's like, okay, what really caused the death of George Floyd? Because we have the medical examiner statement, but what is the jury going to believe? Is there going to be reasonable doubt? So we get this tox report that shows he had fentanyl, norfentanyl, methamphetamine in his system. And then the defense seems to be doing a pretty good job with the state. So you combine that with the state's own witness saying that Chauvin could have used a taser if he wanted to, but chose to use a lesser amount of force. I think intent is out the window.

Yeah, I think I think it's going really bad for the for the state. I don't think that they're doing a really good job at proving their case. The burden of proof is on them. It's not the defense. And people may think it's the defense, but it's not. And just because a police officer does something that's stupid or maybe that other police officers wouldn't do don't make it criminal um none of that matters what matters is the law what's on the books what is his what what are his charges and can the state prove beyond a reasonable doubt that those charges are effect are in effect i don't think that they

will i think that that uh officer chauvin did a bunch of stuff that I wouldn't do, but I don't think that there's any malice, any depraved mind, which is in the statute, of him trying to kill George Floyd outright. So that's murder two and three gone. Yeah, murder two and three gone. And the manslaughter charge is obviously with the intent or with negligence or knowing that you're doing something that could cause the death of a person. So if he was kneeling on his neck with the knowledge that his unreasonable action will cause the death of George Floyd, then that's where they can get him at. Now, they can't prove that, man.

I don't think that they can prove that i don't think they've done a good job at proving that because you can look at the video footage from today where they show the angle of his knee is facing towards the patrol vehicle which would not be at the proper angle to be consistent with being across the neck of george floyd it's it's showing that it's a maybe a part of his neck and on his upper shoulder area, which is how the maneuver is trained. I did the maneuver like that plenty of times. Never put the knee on the neck, but you do put it on the upper back. People think it's the neck.

Well, check it out. This is what people don't understand. Even if you're trained to put the knee on the back in a heated situation with someone actively resisting, using their feet to kick people surrounding you screaming and threatening you is it reasonable to say that someone might poorly execute the maneuver well and well i'll say this i don't think this is the situation where unless you're a trashy cop that any of what happens should cause you to poorly produce any maneuver i mean george floyd was

pretty much subdued um he had two people on his back chauvin had pretty good control over over him on the upper part of his body he requested to be laid on the ground i don't think george floyd wanted to fight he didn't want to go to jail right he didn't want to get in the car he'll say whatever he needs to he was hoping that somehow he had a medical emergency where they'll take him to the hospital and probably not in the back of a patrol car. That's why he was complaining and making all these claims. Therefore, they wouldn't say it would necessitate them to call the ambulance and not take him to jail. And so I think that's what that's what George Floyd was attempting to do.

However, I've been in situations that were way more intense than what Chauvin was going through. Now, of course, I wasn't on the scene, so I don't know what he was feeling. I don't know the energy that was there. I don't know the effect that the people had on him. But it wasn't that crazy. I had people who were way crazier. I had dudes who were way stronger, who were actively lifting police officers up while they were on his back. He's on the ground lifting them off their feet because he was so high on drugs.

Now, that's a situation where your knee may slide from the shoulders to the neck. And now you're in a position where you're probably fighting for your life because if he happens to get up, he's going to hurt you. If you've got three men and can't hold him down, he's going to probably hurt you. So this is what I'm trying to say, and I'm not trying to say in any way to defend Chauvin.

I'm just presenting a logical defense in terms of what the defense could be bringing up. Chauvin could just be a really bad cop. Like, he doesn't know what he's doing. He's just – some people are good at basketball. Some people are not good at basketball. You know what I mean? So Chauvin is in a situation where it's not that intense. For manslaughter, like you said, it's got to be negligence.

Like you were doing something that could have reasonably caused harm and then you killed somebody. But if Chauvin is trained in Brazilian jiu-jitsu or ground control techniques and they're like, here's what you do. And then he goes like this and does it wrong. How can you argue that he was even trying to cause harm in any capacity? If he was trying to use a ground control maneuver that the cops are trained to do and he's just not good at it, how do you get him on a crime? Yes, I mean, you're 100% correct. I mean, they cannot expect that everyone's training, and they brought it out,

the defense brought this out, that everyone's training is not 100% consistent. You have a little stick figure that's on a picture that shows a little bit about how you're supposed to do things. I did training. I train officers. Some officers train things a little differently, even in the same police department. They may be a little more aggressive and say, oh, it doesn't matter if you if the shin touches the base of the neck. Some say you better not touch his neck. Same department, same training staff tells you a different story. Now, when you're in the heat of the moment, which the defense brought up, you can improvise. You may improvise. You may make mistakes.

And the bottom line is that did the mistake that he made cause the death of George Floyd? Because nobody cares if he made a mistake. Nobody cares if he's a crappy police officer. Nobody cares if he did the maneuver right or wrong. It doesn't matter. Because if he died from taking a bite of a speedball, if he died from methamphetamine and fentanyl, he was actually dying from the moment he put it in his mouth. And he was just a ticking time bomb. Then none of what the prosecution is bringing forth is going to matter.

You saw what happened with Maurice Lester Hall, right? Yes. So he's the friend of George Floyd who was supposed to testify for the state plead the fifth he pleads the fifth but more than that his lawyer comes out and says yeah he could be he could incriminate himself in third degree murder charges in the death of george floyd it's like what i was surprised the judge wasn't the jury wasn't in there for that though yeah okay that's why i was surprised she said that i was like you're making the case for why he should probably be charged right you're saying that he shouldn't say anything that incriminates himself, but you are articulating an incriminable, a defense or at least a.

Incriminable? I made that up today. Incriminable. I don't know what word to use. An incriminating statement. Accriminatable. That can, y'all can use that now. So an incriminating statement. Accriminatable. Y'all can use that now. You put on a shirt. You coined it.

So an incriminating statement that could raise questions. I don't understand why she would do that, but he was culpable in that situation. And I want people to understand that as well, and that's what the defense is bringing out. And the jury may not hear that statement, but they can see with their own eyes that there's a lot of people that were culpable here. I mean, even the firefighters and even the medical staff and even the dispatcher, all of that leading to a delay in the firefighters getting there, possibly delaying George Floyd getting medical treatment. It's all everybody. All these people are now slightly culpable. So to put all of the blame on Chauvin, which is what they're trying to do, is not a really good strategy that's going to pass. It just feels like they want

a scapegoat they made him the number one villain because he's the guy you can see with the neon George Floyd there were other cops there too and there were cops that were there before he got there and you know when this all first went down everybody basically watched the video and was like

dude that's messed up like he shouldn't have done that but that's i guess we all fall for this sometimes because we don't know what was going on so the the defense pointed out that chauvin received a priority one call you know sirens lights rushed to the scene we've got an active resistance from a guy who's six foot six 230 pounds and so this is where it gets crazy because then he asks this okay this is this is where it gets crazy because then he asks, okay, this is important. The state literally paid this guy. How much did they pay him?

$10,000. $10,000 to pay him right there, and then they paid him another like $30-something hundred just to show up in court. So to be a consultant or expert witness, $10,000, and then they paid him shortly before. So this guy that the state paid to come to tell the jury Chauvin did bad basically says that Chauvin, as soon as he got that priority one call and heard there was active resistance, Chauvin could have walked out of his car,

drew his taser, and just fired at Floyd. He could have if he wanted to, and that would have been reasonable. In the expert's opinion, that's insane, man. The temperament, the defense was able to establish a well-mannered temperament which kills the deprived mind depraved mind articulation and i think the third degree murder charge or whatever it kills that articulation because people have to understand level one calls are the highest priority call that you can get. The highest. That means an active shooter. That means somebody's killing somebody.

There being a man with a gun are all level one. That's the highest priority call you can get. And that's what he got. And if he got a level one call, which I think came out in court, your adrenaline, because you can't see the scene. You only have a mental picture of what you produce

based on your train on your experiences so when you hear rookies on the radio saying we guys fighting and they're struggling you can hear it on the radio he's on drugs or whatever at cup foods and it seemed like cup foods is in the hood it seemed like they all kind of stuff happening at cup foods but when you hear it over the radio you can't see george floyd you can't see a guy that's cracked out his mind you know a myth out of his mind you can't see George Floyd. You can't see a guy that's cracked out of his mind, you know, a myth out of his mind. You can't see if the officers really have control or not. You are going off of your own memory and experience.

So when the level one car comes out and you hear it over the radio, your stress level goes out of the roof because you're imagining the worst. He's probably imagining that these rookies are getting it handed to him by this big, crazy guy that's hounding these drugs. And when he gets there, he sees guy that's hounding these drugs. And when he gets there, he sees that he's sitting in the car. He calms himself down. He's not an out-of-control, deranged, I-wanna-kill-a-black-man-today police officer that they are presenting him as. And he's 5'9", 140 pounds. And he knew Chauvin.

That's right. Or he knew Floyd. They knew each other. They worked together in the past. Well, I know that they worked at the same bar, but I don't think it was proven they actually knew each other. They were both. The statement was that they never interacted. And it has not been talked about in the last few months. Yeah, because I think that people fluff that up because they want to have a conspiratorial angle.

Yeah. But in reality, you can work in the same facility with somebody and not know them. Yeah, because apparently they worked in different parts of the building. Different shifts. in the same facility with somebody and not be not know them. You know, I did off duty. Apparently they worked in different parts of the building. And they're hired by two different I mean, it's like two different hiring processes. So I'm pretty sure Chauvin worked off duty as uniformed police,

which that goes through the police department. I'm sure George Floyd was hired through their staff, probably a one-to-one or maybe an agency. It was two different agencies. How about this? Ian, what if you're right? What if Chauvin gets his call? Priority one call.

Get the lights on. Speed there quick. We got a 6'6", 230-pound guy. He's fighting with these rookies. The rookies are freaking out. He can hear on the radio, he's resisting. We need backup. Chauvin goes, oh, man.

He starts sweating bullets. He hits the gas. He pulls up and goes, oh, it's Floyd. Puts his taser away. Walks over and says, I'll put him on the over and says i'll put him on the ground floyd said put me on the ground man put me on the ground so what if chauvin was like oh dude i know this guy i'm not gonna tase this guy yeah what about that that's also crazy well which is man that hurts the prosecution it makes it seem like oh no he's personable he knew him that's why he didn't tase him right away that's why he didn't he didn't go they didn didn't go. They didn't go hard on him like I would have. I would have gone hard on him.

On Floyd? On Floyd. Initially. Not on the ground. We wouldn't have gotten to that point. And the reason why is because you don't want to get to that point. You don't want to get out of control. You don't want to get a person getting too confident.

And then they start doing all this crazy stuff. And now you have to use crazy amount of force on them in the end like they're kicking himself but think about this get out of here then he falls out and bumps his head and breaks his neck but you're going to be liable for that and think about this they put him in the car and floyd on the body camera saying put me on the ground put me on the ground and he's kicking and so chauvin goes all right ivin goes, all right, I'm going to do what he wants. Chauvin should have been like, no, we're not putting you on the ground. Get in the car, dude. If you were harder on him earlier, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to,

like, command you to put him on the ground. Yeah, you've got to make a decision. You've got to make a decision. These guys are rookies, so they don't have a lot of experience with these high-intensity situations. And the guy's big. And they don't know Floyd. He could start going crazy on them, and they're're out there flustered so in the beginning when he was

cool you'd be cool with him if you're gonna try to attempt to put him in a patrol car you need to either put him in there or you don't put him in there and if you put him in there you need to start accelerating because you're gonna have to get him in there if you play around with him he's gonna i can't breathe and he's gonna kick himself out of the car on the ground. And now he's on the ground, and you're not going to get a 6'6", 230-pound crackhead, meth head, into a patrol car after he's prone on the ground. He's never going in a patrol car after that. So if you want to put him in there, you put him in there. You use force, and you put him in there. You make him get in the car, and then you shut him in.

Or you don't. This is crazy. I mean, when you go through the body camera footage, and based on what you're saying, it sounds like they went, I'm not trying to say, well, I'm just going to say it. It sounds like they didn't do enough. They weren't, I don't want to say aggressive. It's not the right word. They weren't assertive enough.

They didn't put him in the car, close the door, and leave him there. They opened it up. They played around with him, like you said. And if they just told Floyd, we're not putting you on the ground, we're not going to do what you're asking, you're under arrest, none of this would have happened. I believe so. I mean, I've been in this situation before plenty of times,

probably 100 times. And when you let people get an inch, they take a mile. An experienced police officer will be able to diagnose very quickly that George Floyd is either having a real medical emergency or he's not. He's playing. He don't want to go to jail. This is what they do. They claim a medical

emergency so that they can have the ambulance come and they hope to go to the hospital hoping that you will. Because what happens is if you swallow drugs, a fraudulent $ 20 bill isn't a serious charge in many jurisdictions they're not going to waste their time trying to go too far if you end up having a medical complication so typically what could happen is that you have a

medical complication you claim it you have some type of reaction to swallowing drugs instead of you get in the back of the police car going to the substation you go to the ambulance go to the hospital they have to pump your stomach and do all these other things many police departments do what we call long form which means they leave you and they follow up with you later on and they may not even arrest you take you to jail they may give you a ticket and walk away and so a lot of people who are in the system they know the game it they either swallow the drugs and claim something or they try to get themselves out of going straight to the jail do you guys uh where where were you a police officer tucson arizona did you guys have eye bond eye bonds no what is that so i think that's what it's called in illinois

where they basically arrest you but i do air quotes because what happens is the cop will walk up to you say you're under arrest fill out a form sign this yeah you're free to go we call it site and release it's called a paper ticket or whatever. Like you still got court? Yeah. It's basically the same as arrest, but they just don't bring you to the station. So what happens is they give you a ticket and you sign a ticket promising to appear in court. If you fail to appear in court, now they can get a warrant for your arrest.

So it's the same process without booking. Because what happens is, you know, in many of the police departments, people don't notice that if the county runs the jail, the police department, the city, has to of the police departments, people don't notice that if the county runs the police, the jail, the police department, the city has to pay for every person they intake. And that's a money, that could be a money grab. So what we did as a police department, people who were DUI, well, no, not DUI, but people who were marijuana, in possession

of marijuana, because in Arizona, the threshold is two pounds. And then you, you know, then you gotta go to jail. You're like a scale with you guys, got a huge bag and you're like, you're at 1.9, you're good. Yeah, you got to go to jail you're like anything with you guys got a huge bag and you're like you're at 1.9 you're good yeah you're 1.9 do you smoke this all day and so it's a usable amount or what they call a personal use so anything under two pounds you can cite and release people depending on what you want to do so what we would do is we'll cite and release them in most cases unless you there's more you know circumstances surrounding your arrest like multiple arrests or whatever we'll take you to the jail cell.

Either way it go, you're promising to appear in court either through booking or you're promising to appear in court on the side of the road. And if you're not a big threat of fleeing, they'll just sign your ticket and you'll walk away. You ever have people you saw doing like a nonviolent crime and you're just like, I'm not going to. Yes. I'm not going to mess with this guy. Yes. All the time. So like what's a good example of that?

Well, like somebody's drinking alcohol like you know i'll be going to another car prior to car doing a beat and i see the same drunk because because uh you know drinking alcohol in public is a crime the same drunk out there on on public property on private property drinking a 40 ounce and he's just drunk he's gonna drink that thing and go behind the building. And nobody cares. He's the neighborhood drunk. Or he's going to go off to a house and squat. It's a waste of my time because there are people who really need my services. Maybe if the day is slow, I may go in and address the gentleman. But other than that, you know, you let them go.

You know, sometimes you see a person, was that a hand-to-hand or was it not? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And nowadays, if you're white i guarantee you they're looking like oh no it's not worth it do i want to be on the news do i want to go to prison do i want to lose my job if the cop is white if the cop is white and the purpose black because you like if this turned into a fight it's over hand to hand is where it looks like they're handing each other the hand of drugs you may shake hands they could just be

shaking hands they could be shaking hands or whatever the case may be or whatever they're doing or they could be selling dope but do you want to go down that path when you got an hour left on your shift and this could end up being a fight for your life dude can pull a gun on you whatever cops do make those decisions i don't know how prevalent i've never had to be put in a position to do it to make a decision on a hand-to-hand i work the midnight shift nobody's out you're doing hand to hand at 12 o'clock at night it's on but i i gotta wonder if the state is is actually throwing the prosecution on purpose like i'm reading this this these blog posts from legal insurrection they got great analysis you look at abc cnbc you know and whatever and they're basically like the police

say chauvin did this wrong police say chauvin use excessive force witness says chauvin did this and they're only telling you one side of the fight so it's like the way i described it yesterday is it's a boxing match where the commentator is saying like you know oh brandon hits him again hits him again hits him again and they don't what they're not telling you is that for every time you hit ian ian hit you five times yeah so then when the when the refs like ian wins people are like what people are being set up to believe that chauvin's going to get convicted because of the mainstream headlines but anyway i digress i'm reading these these the the legal insurrection analysis about the state's own witnesses constantly backfiring on the prosecution they bring in this

mpd officer to talk about like training use of, and he's like, oh, I once did the same thing. It's like, oh, geez, dude. And so I'm wondering – and I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying it's a thought. Is it possible that the state is like, if Chauvin actually goes down for this, we're going to get 200 cops just quitting overnight. They're not going to want to work. Because like you mentioned, right, if you're a white cop and you see someone doing a handoff or whatever you're going to be like oh dude i'm not going to be that guy in the news being called a racist how many cops are going to look at what happened with with chauvin and be

like am i next am i going to be told to go and subdue some guys on drugs and they're going to try and put me in jail for it uh yeah i think that definitely the second part of what you said meaning that cops are going to have an adverse action to Chauvin getting prosecuted, especially when the case is so weak. I don't think the prosecution is trying to throw it. I just think they don't have a lot. This was all conjured up on BS from the very beginning. This is only getting attention because he's a white cop and a black man. And the video is kind of intense.

Like, if you just look at it with a naked eye, you're like, dang, that looked really bad. So this is the only reason why it's getting this much attention. Other than that, this is no different than Eric Garner. I mean, Eric Garner was presumably choked, which it wasn't a choke. I don't care what nobody said. He didn't choke the guy. He presumably choked the gentleman, and then he subsequently died from complications of a heart attack or whatever stuff that was going on. He was a ticking time bomb.

Well, the knee on the upper shoulder back was accelerating the ticking time bomb or maybe had something to do with the ticking time bomb of George Floyd. So if the guy in the other case got off, then why would

Chauvin be prosecuted for a similar reaction? So the cop in the Eric Garner situation. Eric Garner. I can't think of his name. Yeah, Eric Garner. He got acquitted. Is that what happened? Yeah, he got fired, but he got acquitted.

Right, right, right. Yeah, Chauvin got fired. Yeah, and he's going to get acquitted if it keeps going the way that it's going. I think what happened to Eric Garner is tragic and ridiculous and it makes me pissed off at the system and the police department. The dude was selling Lucy's. He's like standing on the street corner giving out single cigarettes to people so they try to arrest him

for it. Now I get it. Brett Weinstein said, he's a smart guy. In order for a society to function, cops need to be able to arrest people. You can't resist. Cop walks up to you. You're not going to win a fight by trying to get into a fight with a cop and refusing and resisting. You've got to win through the system.

It's not perfect and it's not great. I just think it's kind of dumb that this dude was just standing in a street corner. Let's put it in perspective. Do we really know what he was doing? We don't know. We weren't there. He was saying, I'm just doing this. That's a good point. That's what he was saying. I've never met a criminal say, I have maybe once,

that says, come arrest me, officer. I'm doing all kinds of crimes here. Let me write down the crimes that I'm committing so I can go to prison for life. Nobody's going to do that. There's actually the famous story of that guy who robbed a bank for $1. And then after he went and sat down,

waiting to get arrested because he had cancer. He wanted to get health care from prison because he couldn't otherwise. That's a crazy story. I had a guy i had a guy we were we were in midnight shift man i'm just hanging out just finished crazy writing crazy case reports and we're at the qt getting ready to get some donuts this guy come up to us screaming arrest me take me to jail help arrest me and we like dude stop what is your problem he pulls out a bag of weed because we said we said no we're not arresting you we're not he pulls out a bag of weed it's like

arrest me now and we all looked at each other like who's gonna write this case so some people do it they do it why do you do it but but he he was high on drugs yeah and he was he was schizophrenic so he was afraid people trying trying to kill him. So he wanted to go to jail to be safe. And he happened to have weed in his pocket. And he presented it. That dude needs to go to a doctor, man. I know.

We took him to jail for a few reasons. I think he ended up having a warrant. He was in possession of marijuana. But he can't get help from jail. They will refer you to medical services if you have problems in jail in Tucson. You ever see the movie Watchmen? I don't think so. I love that movie.

It was a much better comic graphic novel. But in the movie, it's basically about a bunch of superheroes, vigilantes. They wear masks. They wear masks? Yeah, it's like part of the premise is that they're not necessarily all superpowered. There's people who put on costumes and fight crime. And a law passes where you can't wear masks anymore. Like mask vigilantism is a crime.

And so there's a scene in the movie. I think it's in the comic as well where these two heroes are reminiscing about this one villain who's constantly like, arrest me, arrest me. And they're like, we'd always ignore him. And then Rorschach, who's like this – he's one of the characters. He's a moral absolutist. And they're like,'d always ignore him and then Rorschach who's like this he's one of the characters he's a moral absolutist and they're like whatever happened to that guy and then Night Owl goes Rorschach dropped him down an elevator shaft yeah well that's what it reminds me of the guy walking up to you being like arrest me here's drugs take me in yeah in the case of Eric Garner like this is this is the thing that that I think is a two-fold thing of Eric Garner, this is the thing that I think is a twofold thing here.

Eric Garner shouldn't have been breaking the law. He had been arrested 40-something times before this one. Some of his arrests included selling Lucy. Some of them included resisting arrest. But you've got to think about capitalism and freedoms. freedoms the store that's selling full price cigarettes is getting gypped because you got this guy who refused to work for the store or get a real job is selling cigarettes for a cheaper price right in front right in front of his business and the store call the cops store i don't know if they call the cops in this instance but somebody called the cops because they showed up not unless

they were surveilling him right which these guys look like they were in plain clothes but i don't know if they were pd i don't know if they were PD. I don't know if that's the way they do PD out there or not. The problem I have is when I see this video of the Eric Garner situation, and I'm like, it pisses me off. I see the George Floyd thing. It pisses me off. I see a lot of these videos that everybody gets pissed off. And my initial reaction when these stories started becoming prominent through social media was sympathy and support for the activists.

Then I started actually looking at the evidence. Then the George Floyd thing was basically a big punch in the gut for me. Because when the George Floyd thing happened, conservatives, liberals, moderates, everybody was pissed off. Everybody. I think I was pretty upset. Yep. Everybody was coming out and saying, no, this is not good. We want justice.

And here's what pissed me off. Then the evidence comes in. Then you're like and saying, no, this is not good. We want justice. And here's what pissed me off. Then the evidence comes in. Then you're like, oh, geez, dude. We all jumped the gun a little bit. But here's the problem. When people who are like moderate liberal conservative of any persuasion actually investigate and find out, oh, man, we might have been wrong on this one. They come out and say it. When they think there's injustice, they call for justice. But these leftists, when they're wrong, they just out and say it when they think there's injustice they call for justice

but these leftists when they're wrong they just stop talking about it they should ignore it just disappears yeah and they have to you know for me i always maintained that i thought that what he did was dumb and i you know that guy caused a hailstorm that didn't need to happen because george floyd could have died but he could have he could have played to the camera. You know, you're a white man on a black man. And he's saying, I can't breathe. He cried for his mama, even if he's wrong, even if he's lying, even he's playing. You play to the camera, dude, because the optics are just horrible here. And the dude is subdued.

And if you need to jump on his neck again, you can. But to just sit there with your hands in his pockets and he goes unconscious and you still don't do anything. Right. But I never said he will be found guilty in the court of law and i think i think the reason why is because i know policing you know and i reserve my opinions on the court of law because all the evidence hasn't been presented and these things keep occurring like brianna taylor's another one yeah you know they keep saying that these people are are unjustifiably killed by police creating an environment of of hatred towards police which

is a big lie it's it's all a farce there are some people who were killed by police and they in they didn't deserve to be killed by police you know i think walter scott was uh oh is it philando i think i think philando castile was the only iffy one for me what happened with him he got shot he was reaching he was reaching for his identification presumably and he had a gun in his pocket so to the officer it looks like he's reaching for the gun it was a legal gun and he was in his car no no no no let's talk about that it wasn't legal because he was smoking pot no not at the time because the toxicology results that came back in the court of law in his trial deemed that he was intoxicated meaning that he had ingested marijuana at the time he got his permit and therefore he illegally obtained a concealed

carry permit and even while he was illegally in possession of a of a concealed carry permit he was violating the law at the time of his death because he was carrying a gun and he had uh illegal drugs in his possession so he's in possession of legal drugs while carrying a firearm so he was all kind of messed up. But does that mean he needs to die? No, it doesn't. But what it speaks to is the questionable nature

of what is the cop seeing and what is he doing? And he's reaching, he said, for his ID, but the cop sees a gun coming out of his pocket. He should have had it in a holster. He should be a responsible gun owner. And it, he should have had it in a holster. He should be responsible gun owner. And it probably wouldn't have been that iffy gray area. This is where I get more

libertarian and all this stuff. I don't blame an individual cop for the most part. I understand individuals bear responsibility for the actions they take, for the orders they follow, but if we're asking cops to effectively be neutral arbiters of the law, not saying they always are

or typically are, but that's the idea. It's like, okay, we've all voted. Legislators came in, passed this law. Now we got to have people to enforce the law. So we have cops do it. That cop's not playing favorites. You know, first of all, he doesn't want to get jammed up and have his time wasted by someone doing something dumb. And you're going to argue and claim, oh, I should be allowed to do this. I should be allowed to do this. Look, man, I know what the law is. You know what the law is. I'm doing what was asked of me by the community. The problem I see, though, is

the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It doesn't say anything about whether or not you smoke pot or whatever. And I also think the war on drugs is wrong. I do think there's a fair assessment about, you know, wielding a gun under the influence for sure. So that's where, you know, things get iffy with Philando. But I'm looking at it like,

we got cops, the Floyd circumstance specifically. Floyd was freaking out because I think the cops caught a mid-drug deal. You know, Maurice Lester Hall was, it was testified by Floyd's girlfriend. She was, that he was the,

he was their dealer. They find the speedball. They see the blood in his system. I think what happened was it was a $20 counterfeit bill, not a big deal. But when the cops showed up system. I think what happened was, it was a $20 counterfeit bill, not a big deal. But when the cops showed up, Floyd was like, we're, you know,

it's like, right now it's going down. This is serious charges. So he freaks out. If it wasn't illegal to do drugs like that, and you had a right, I don't think he would have freaked out. Well, he was driving. You can't do that while you're driving. That's true. This is the point that some people make, and it sounds good in theory, but in application it doesn't work.

If, you know, if you are, you see how crazy he was. You see him in the store. You saw him. He was jumping and struggling to stand up at some point. How is he operating a motor vehicle? But then you also see that because of his drug habit he's now using the counterfeit money to purchase things yeah so he's in a sense he's in a sense of desperation so if the counterfeit money doesn't work what is he going to do next to get his high what is he

going to do next to get what he want he's going to start stealing things he's going to start robbing people he's going to start breaking he's going to start breaking other laws that affect other people if you were smoking crack in your own house, nobody cares. I've never caught somebody smoking crack in their own house. I never, never. I'm going to randomly break into his house. There he is. There he goes.

Oh, he got crack everywhere. And you know what happens if I just kick his door in and get all the crack I want? You get in trouble. First of all, I'm getting fired, and then none of that stuff is – all of this is pressed to court. He'll never go to jail for it. It's the fruit of the poison tree. Exclusionary rule.

I have already started down the path of doing illegal stuff. None of this is going to count. He'll never go to jail for it. It was the fruit of the poison tree. Exclusionary rule. I have already started down the path of doing illegal stuff. None of this is going to count. So it doesn't happen. But what I do see is that the reason why Philando Castile and these laws are in place that a person is in possession of a firearm with illegal substances is because of the drug game. It's because of drug dealing. It's because people are violent. All of these young people that are getting killed in the inner city are getting killed in this ring of drugs, gangs, gun violence, all of these things, which are trying to, which police are trying to combat via the legislators. And so it's not a big deal to me because I don't carry illegal drugs on me while I'm carrying my firearm. I just don't do

it. If I want to smoke weed, I just smoke at the house. And if I want to smoke it illegal, I just smoke it at the house. Yeah, legal in most places now. It's legal in most places. Arizona just passed a law that is legal in Arizona. I don't know if it's in effect yet, but they passed a law, which I think is counterproductive. But at the end of the day, I don't care.

Police don't care. They don't care. About people doing drugs? About people smoking weed oh yeah like it's not it's not a big deal i i got these stories from the south side where it's like you know my 16 year old friends would be like hanging out skating at a park whatever and they're smoking pot and it's like a cop pull up and then i'll freak out and like throw it the cops would laugh and there was one story where apparently like my like my friends were at a park they're smoking they see a cop roll up they freak out throw the pipe the cops laugh and go yo we don't care we're looking for a guy who's like 5 10 he's wearing a brown

shirt you see him like no he's like later kids and they just peel they just drive off and they're like yeah i mean the freak out that people have is probably the most dangerous because floyd may have been able to beat the case in the court of law for the if he didn't freak out and be weird he it would have just been a counterfeit thing in the court of law for the if he didn't freak out and be weird he it would have just been a counterfeit thing in the in the store could choose not to prosecute now i don't know if that's the way that they do it there but in the state of arizona the store has to prosecute your crime against them doesn't matter well it's the state that that brings charges not not in not in so so there's a you know there's a time period in which crimes can be prosecuted and not

right so if i go to a convenience store and i steal candy out of convenience store and it's just shoplifting i committed a crime a store can say i don't want to prosecute therefore the police department will not arrest me because the store didn't want to prosecute however they can prosecute as long as it's within a year or so of that crime or whatever whatever the limitation statute of limitations is for that particular crime so even only thing that changes in the state of arizona and it's probably universal across the board is domestic violence so a woman getting her butt kicked can't say no i don't want to prosecute my baby daddy today i know the state picks up those charges she has no choice yeah

other crimes against persons that are not involved in domestic violence, people can decide not to prosecute. Well, my understanding of that is that what's actually happening is the prosecutor say, without a witness, we wouldn't win. So it's always the state versus the people versus the person. Ultimately, it's the state, but we make those determinations at the police level. If there's no complaint, right. What are you charging the person with? Exactly. Exactly.

So, but they make it, but technically they make the decision. We'd still, we still report it. We still follow up in a, in a detective can still follow up with the case and they can change their mind. But at the,

at the moment, most people, they don't want to prosecute because George Floyd is a crackhead. I mean, he's a, he's a, he's a drug user, meth user.

He probably smoked crack too, I'm sure. But he sure but he uses drugs and so when the cops showed up maybe he would have come in and reconciled it and the cops could have assisted him in doing that but he panicked because he got his dope dealer who had a bag of drugs probably and he panicked and swallowed dope and i know people personally who sell, who have done things like that. And that's a common occurrence. They swallow dope. Because if you swallow it, now you don't have it in your possession and you can't be charged with it. They call it hooping.

That's what he said. That's what I've learned in the last few days. And he said it blatantly to the officer. I was hooping earlier. So, yeah, but the way PBS reports that is it meant basketball. Yeah, right. I was meant basketball. Yeah, right. I was playing basketball. Yeah, I mean.

That's probably why it's coded like that. I'm sure he's not playing basketball as high as he was. Oh, he's lying. Yeah. Oh, he's lying. But in your experience, is hooping typically referred to as swallowing drugs? I never heard of the term hooping. Yeah, me neither.

Nobody ever used that term. I mean, it's probably cultural. You said hooping for basketball or hooping for drugs? For drugs. Either. I've never heard hooping for drugs. I've heard hooping for basketball. Exactly. I've heard shooting hoops. I've never heard I said hooping for basketball hooping for drugs for drugs either i've never heard hooping for drugs i've heard hooping for basketball exactly i've heard shooting hoops i've never heard i was hooping i mean i never heard a person admit that they swallowed right right they admitted that they swallowed drugs unless they wanted medical attention and they will say hey

man i like hey i need the man ambulance i swallowed i swallowed i think he did want the ambulance he did but the thing is i think he went about it in a roundabout way because he was so high. He was trying to convey to them that I want medical attention because I don't want to go to jail. But he didn't want to go ahead and admit that I swallowed the dope that homeboy just sold me right here in front of the store. He tried to buy with counterfeit money. Let's pull up the story. We got the story from the Hill because this is part of the defense, and I think we should bring it up. Chauvin defense attorney claims Floyd said, quote, I ate too many drugs in arrest video.

This is really weird because you can't really hear exactly what they're saying in this video. It's just this loud clamoring. I guess maybe George Floyd said it, but to me it's like that Yanny Laurel thing. If someone plays a weird sound and tells you here's what they said you'll hear it you know there there's this really funny song where they have it's like it's like it's a very short meme song i can't remember what it was it's like 30 seconds where they're saying the same thing over and over again the same phrase but the text shows a different phrase yes so it sounds like they're saying different things, but it's the same word over and over and over again.

So when they play this video and you can't really make it out and they're like, doesn't it sound like Floyd said I ate too many drugs? You're like, maybe, maybe. Well, so here's where it gets crazy. The prosecutor says he didn't say I ate too many drugs. He said, I ain't do any drugs. Which one was it? Well, hold on.

He said one of the two, right? That's the argument. So either he said he's admitting to it or he's lying because we know from the tox report that he did eat the drugs. So what do you think he said? Well, I don't know what he says, and it's not going to matter if Chauvin didn't write it in a case report because Chauvin can just deny that he heard anything. But the thing is, is that if the prosecution is shooting themselves in the foot again if he said i ate too many drugs and chauvin did not recognize that he needed to be he needed um aid to be rendered to him then chauvin would would be potentially culpable in not rendering aid to a person who

admitted to swallowing drugs this is in a prosecution turnaround said no he didn't say that he said i didn't do no drugs well then that makes chauvin even more you know a reasonable person because he's saying i didn't do no drugs so there's no reason to put him on his side in a recovery position that's that that's what i wanted to get to with this story is that it seems like the defense is pulling a bugs bunny on the prosecutors so you guys you know in looney tunes when daffy and bugs and this is rabbit season and duck season and and daffy say it's rabbit season and duck season, and Daffy's saying it's rabbit season, and Bugs is like, no, it's duck season. Then all of a sudden Bugs goes, it's rabbit season. And then Daffy goes, no, it isn't.

It's duck season. And then Bugs goes, okay. And then Elmer Fudd shoots Daffy. That's basically what happened. They're like, didn't he say he ate drugs? No. No, he didn't say that. He said he didn't eat drugs.

Oh, okay. So Chauvin should not have rendered aid because they didn't do any drugs. I'm wondering, are they that brilliant? Or it's just falling that way? Slipping on banana peels and doing backflips. Because what they're trying to argue is, see, it's two things being argued here. They're trying to preserve, the prosecution is trying to preserve the character of George Floyd. So him saying I ate too many drugs is proving that his character is a drug user

and that he's crazy out of his mind. But they're fighting that. They're saying, no, he said I didn't do no drugs george floyd wasn't a bad guy but that's playing into the lap of the defense because they're not caring if he's a good guy or bad guy they're trying to decide whether chauvin was rightfully knowledgeable about him being overdosing potentially overdosing from drugs should he been set in a recovery position was he experiencing excited delirium? Which is another term that I

haven't, at least I haven't heard every word of the case, but I haven't heard excited delirium brought up much. I wonder if the prosecutor or the defense is going to listen to this and they're going to get the idea because the trial is ongoing, and then the state prosecutor is going to be like, the other day we mentioned that the defense said

George Floyd said I ate too many drugs. Yes. We agree. He did say that. Chauvin should have rendered aid because the defense agrees. That's what he said, right? Yeah. That's crazy how that works out that way.

It's too late. They're trying to defend the character. They're shooting themselves in the foot. It's too late now. I know. Do you have the audio? Can you play that audio? Is it available?

I can't. Not on YouTube because it's part of the whole – YouTube doesn't allow you to show the Floyd incident. I don't know how you guys feel, but once I found out that he had fentanyl, norfentanyl, and that was overdosing. And meth. That I just, it looks like a drug overdose stuff. I don't know. Well, just for the sake of understanding fentanyl for a second.

Fentanyl is one of the most potent and dangerous drugs that I know that exists at this point. It is more dangerous than a horse tranquilizer. It is more potent in little bitty grams of it. If you research, and I did a video about this, and it showed a Phoenix police officer, and I'll tell you how it evolved. A Phoenix police officer with gloves on was handling a drug laced with fentanyl and he passed out and they had to administer narcan to him or he would have died just for handling inhaling vapor from a drug laced with fentanyl wow and our our um department when i when i was on the department fentanyl when it

first came to to read you know to our understanding how potent it was every drug we test you have to wear a full hazmat suit to test every drugs gloves you got to wear a mask and you got to have a complete hazmat suit on because fentanyl can see through the skin you can inhale it and if you ingest it you you might as well call yourself dead so we pulled up from the dea.gov an image of a lethal dose of fentanyl, and it's next to a penny. Have you ever seen this photo? No, I haven't. It's 1-100th the size of a penny, a lethal dose of fentanyl.

Yeah, lethal. It shows a penny on the screen, and there's tiny little white specks. I've heard these stories, man. I remember in Chicago they called it super heroin because, like you said, you could accidentally just inhale a tiny bit, you're dead. People didn't get it. So it's like lab-created opiate that didn't exist 12 years ago. It's a new thing, right?

I don't know when it was invented. I don't know if it's new or they're newly administering this as an as a additive to these drugs because think about it see how little that is you you get a lot of that it go a long way you sprinkle a little that in some methamphetamine which is probably what floyd was taking and it'll drive you nuts and you only need a little bit and you could charge way more because you got you got some powerful stuff you know what kind of meth it was that was in his system just meth well there's like methyl and dioxin methamphetamine which is mdma a crystal meth which is much more dangerous than mdma in in the tax report it's just listed as methamphetamine and i almost think that any methamphetamine that is street level is going to be the crystal

methamphetamine because it's the way they they cook it and that's my assumption and they begin to sell it that way and people get in these little crystals i've never seen methamphetamine because it's the way they they cook it and that's my assumption and they begin to sell it that way and people get in these little crystals i've never seen methamphetamine um in any other form except crystal um and then if they mix uh uh fentanyl with with crystal meth is that the idea that's what the speedball is speedball yeah yeah and normally you know speedball can be mixed with methamphetamine heroin um. So it's kind of like that mixture of an upper and a downer. So some sort of opiate with meth. Some opiate with the upper, you know, and typically it's methamphetamine. And, dude, that's dangerous, man.

People do speedballs. That's a thing. People do speedballs all the time, and they don't live with all of that. You know what I'm saying? You're taking it and ingesting it into your body over time, you're going to die. Heroin is killed. You know, I had a family member die from a heroin overdose. Heroin is pretty legitimate.

You know, these opiates are really legitimate. And Floyd, I guarantee you that methamphetamine and fentanyl probably isn't his typical drug. I think that he probably started using it after a while. I'm pretty sure he used all kinds of stuff. They'll do anything to get high. If you're a crystal meth, you have done a lot of other stuff to get a high. And crystal meth is kind of like, especially if you're black. And I'm not making it a race thing.

It's a culture thing. In most black areas, they do crack. The crack rocks. They do crack. When you start getting the meth, you are on another level. You have now branched out of the typical drug arena that you're in, and you're starting to go and deal with people who are on another level of drug production. And that's just my opinion.

That's not every city. But in my city, that was. Do you know a lethal dose of methamphetamines? No. I tried to look this up. It's really hard to find. Fentanyl was easy to look up. Not only does the DEA have a photo showing you just how tiny bit of fentanyl can kill you,

but they also talk about between 10 and 20 nanograms per milliliter is anesthesia range, where you basically get knocked out. And that at 7 nanograms per milliliter is anesthesia range where you basically get knocked out. And that at 7 nanograms per milliliter in combination with other drugs is where you're in overdose territory. Otherwise, it's around like 11 or so. Now, the norfentanyl in the system is a metabolite of fentanyl, meaning he might have even had 17 nanograms per milliliter when he first ingested this. He had 19 nanograms per milliliter of methamphetamine in the system i don't know what the lethal concentration for meth is i couldn't find it but he had a lot he also had tobacco which is a stimulant caffeine yeah oh caffeine and thc cottonine or something yeah

that's yeah yeah it's two different kinds of thc in a system you know a big combination like i'm saying this guy is a drug a habitual drug user he's going to his next high you know and this was his next high and then it ended up but but i don't think he was into he wasn't i don't think he was actively getting high at the time is that he got caught with a whole thing of drugs and he had to swallow it and and he killed him i mean what's the guy the little rapper that was on the airplane yeah i remember and he flew on a private jet and he had drugs. Well, Prince, he died from fentanyl, but that's probably not who you're talking about. No, it's a rapper.

It was recent. A rapper, he landed somewhere. He was like 25. And they thought the cops killed him or something like that. But what happened was he got caught with marijuana, but he has other drugs that he ingested. And so he ended up ingesting them and dying. Like I said, I know people, and I'm not going to disclose how I know them, who they are specifically, but I know people that

have gotten caught by the cops. Was that Juice WRLD? I think it was Juice WRLD. Yeah, he swallowed Percocet at Chicago Airport. Swallowed Percocet. Because he didn't want to get caught, so he swallowed more than you would take. You're trying to swallow the whole thing so you don't get caught with any of it.

Because once it's in your body, they can't charge you with't charge you anything that's a war on drugs thing for me though you know what i mean kind of man it's a whole ring of behaviors but if people were just growing methamphetamine uh you know which you don't grow i mean it's a lot of chemical compounds to get meth but if you had cocaine and you were just doing coca leaves and cocaine i don't even know how it's made but you're just doing in your backyard who cares nobody ever know this dude's on a plane but no but how did he get it is the question what is he doing with it is another question and a lot of times these people are getting it through nefarious means meaning that they are contributing to the the cartel in mexico and and all the trafficking that goes on and gun gun smuggling and trade and all of that goes in those drugs getting here and then when they get

here what are they doing to other people the distributor is killing people yeah that's that's to me if you sell drugs you sell if you sell heroin to somebody or you sell methamphetamine to somebody i i would like for that to be a form of attempted murder if that person dies and you sold it to him you should be charged with murder but let's say we we stop these laws all of a sudden the cartels go out of business they're not gonna go out of business well laws. All of a sudden, the cartels go out of business. They're not going to go out of business. Well, you know what's going on with the cartels now? You want to know what they started selling? What?

With marijuana being legalized in a bunch of different states, they found a new cash crop that they've started seizing upon. Avocados. Oh, I saw that. No joke. I saw the article. Avocados. Yeah, so I even went down to Mexico.

I mean, what are they doing with avocados? Just the avocados that you eat? Or are they doing something weird with it? Business is business. Because they found they're extremely valuable, and Americans has a high demand for avocados. So with the legalization of marijuana, what ends up happening is they're like, we used to have essentially a monopoly on this product because the government said it was illegal. So you needed someone under the radar to come and take it. Well, if it's legal, we're going to maximize profits guess what now that people can get cheaper illegal stuff

avocados are worth way more so they started saying okay then they go to these avocado farms and they're like we're going to distribute this for you from now on and so what happens is a lot of that starts a lot of that criminal enterprise gets it breaks down because the cartels are like avocados are legal we just bring them in you, you know? Yeah, the abuse of these drugs. I mean, it's a lot of factors, man. I mean, you think about the prohibition of alcohol. I mean, alcohol is legal now. People are not smuggling alcohol.

But they're still drinking it illegally. And they're still killing people probably more than methamphetamines, killing people and drunk drivers and people beating their wives and killing people. Most calls that I went on, domestic violence-related calls and violent calls, people were drunk. They were drunk off their butt. It wasn't weed. So ban alcohol. You know, alcohol is – what I'm saying is that – Most calls that I went on, domestic violence related calls and violent calls, people were drunk. They were drunk off their butt. It wasn't weed.

So ban alcohol. You know, alcohol is – what I'm saying is that if you think legalizing it is going to stop the effects of it, it's not. So making it illegal, is that going to stop the effects of it? It may not. But I really do think there has to be some consequences because why do, why do I not smoke marijuana? I mean, I don't smoke cause it's illegal. I really don't want to smoke it cause it's illegal. Um,

why do I not do certain things? Cause they're illegal. If they weren't illegal, maybe I'll take, maybe I'll try meth or maybe they'll be, it'll be in a different form where you put a little methamphetamine or, you know, now they put embalming fluid in marijuana and it's called,

um, what did he call it? I forget the name. From aldehyde. Yeah. So they put that, they put embalming fluid in marijuana, and it's called – what did he call it? I forget the name of it. Is that formaldehyde? Ew. Yeah. Is that formaldehyde? They put it in marijuana, and they call it – it was a rapper that said it, and it's escaped my mind.

I'll come back to it. Did Hunter Biden say he smoked Parmesan cheese or something like that? Yeah, he said he smoked Parmesan. That just feels on the brink. You know, one thing about meth, MDMA, methylendioxy methamphetamine, which is a type of meth, is used in like couples therapy. Because if used right, certain types of meth are incredibly good for you. But so meth, the word meth gets a bad reputation. Yeah, amphetamine.

Yeah, certain types of amphetamines, if used in the right environment, can be beneficial. Crystal meth, though, I've never heard any lab uses of that. Yeah, because I think it takes a different form. You have to chemically put this together. I think Adderall is for different amphetamine salts or something like that. Yeah, but you get into these weird things, man. You say, okay, what if all drugs were legalized and everybody can use any drug they want? So you just say you started using heroin

and you're a father of three children you know you you can't be a dad smoking heroin all day or whatever how whichever way you're doing it um you can't be a productive dad doing these things and and my thing is that you're not going to grow it in your backyard you're going to get it from somebody so if you can stop the person from delivering it then you're going to save a lot more people than just letting it flow free good luck because they're getting it out of afghanistan this is interesting because uh i'm i'm pretty libertarian when it comes to drugs i'm fairly in favor of some form of like mass legalization but with some kind of regulation so that the idea would be you'd have to go to a specialty clinic to buy it it's legal and that way they can make sure you don't overdose.

It's in a controlled situation and they can get you off it. They can slowly lower your dosage and help you get away from withdrawal symptoms and things like that. I've often been a proponent of that. There's one big caveat that has no answer. Opiates already are illegal. They are. The doctors prescribe them left and like sugar candies and and then people get addicted, and then they die from it.

That's actually George Floyd. His girlfriend testified that they both had some injuries and chronic pain and were prescribed opiates, and then they got addicted to it. That's a physiological dependence. So then they were like, when the doctor wouldn't give them anymore, they freaked out and just started becoming habitual drug users. Yeah, I see that happening but i think i think you know you got the people that become habitual people and you got people that's just making excuses you know when i go to the doctor and i have any kind

of thing i i elect not to take drugs i just don't want to take the drugs yeah now if it's something that you know like your leg is broken half and they got to give you something antibiotic yeah and then yeah yeah antibiotic they give you something that's going to stop the pain it could be a you know a pretty harsh drug then you'll take it you know my wife you know when when she after her pregnancy she had a c-section and they gave her pain pills but of course we're monitoring it we're like okay we're not going to take that after you need it we're not going to overdo it right we're going to balance enduring the pain and not taking too much. But some people are, you know, people make excuses, man. And they go, well, I was addicted.

Nobody told you to take Percocet after your illnesses were over just because you had a big bottle of Percocet. You need to. And some people sell it. The doctor prescribes crazy amounts of drugs, which I think that needs to be regulated. I think of my wife. They gave her a big old thing of pills. She's not going to need that many pills that long. You know how much money she can get if she sold them on the street?

Why? You know, they're talking about $25, $50 a pill. I don't know how strong the pill was. But you're talking $20-some dollars a pill, and you got 200 pills in this thing. You can make money. And people fake injuries, and they get injured, and they get in a dope game this way. So I think that we should regulate the legalized drugs that we're already administering to people. We should regulate those things and make sure they're not abusing those things.

And we should enforce these produced, unmanaged, like you said, you know, these drugs are are not being we don't know how they're making these drugs yeah you know like i said sherm you know you smoking sherm is what i was referring to smoking sherm oh yeah with the formaldehyde with the formaldehyde and marijuana and then primos when i was growing up they used to call it primo where you have weed but you put a little crack somebody put crack in it that's why when you you get your weed you got to open it up and go through it and make sure people aren't putting pieces of crack or other drugs in your marijuana. And so some people smoking Primo and they don't know it, then they get addicted to crack or whatever drugs that they end up lacing the marijuana with. I got to pull this story up, man, because I'm sorry.

I think most of you may have seen the story, but I pulled up Snopes. Does everybody love Snopes? They're so accurate. They're so accurate. They're so accurate. Did Hunter Biden say he smoked Parmesan cheese? Yes, tell us, Snopes. For people addicted to crack cocaine, cravings often drive decision making. True.

Okay. That's it. Snopes confirms. That's the casein in the cheese. I hear that. In an interview broadcast on April 4th, Hunter Biden, the son of the president, said he mistook Parmesan cheese for crack

in the past and accidentally smoked the dairy product. They say, while it was true, Hunter Biden said, I probably smoked more Parmesan cheese

than anyone. His statements implied that he mistook other granular items for the drug during the depths of his crack addiction. Additionally,

it was false to frame that quote as a confession that he sought out and smoked Parmesan cheese specifically to try to get high. I still... It's worse! Confirm. It's worse! Dude, listen. If somebody was like, you ever try smoking Parmesan? I don't know. Let's see what

happens. That's not as bad as someone being like, I'm so addicted to crack, I'm going to smoke white powder. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. Wait, wait. You know, bread crumbs on the ground. I'm just going to start smoking everything I see on the ground. I'm just on the ground just picking up stuff to put in the pipe to smoke.

White powder, whatever it is. I smoked sage one time. I was like, what? Sage? Hold on. You can sniff Parmesan cheese. That's cheese. You can taste it and go, that's cheese. You can taste it.

It smells like butt. It smells like butt. Yeah, it stinks. Maybe crack. I don't know. Somebody was hiding their butt. It smelled like butt. Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, that's what it was. Putrescine or cadaverine. Somebody was hooping. Bacterias that grow on animal products. I wonder why the prosecution or the defense brought up almost as if Floyd ingested or put something in his, you know what. They did. They brought it up. That was weird. But nobody's – that fact hasn't come out yet.

But I'm wondering, did they find rectal – I don't know. But the defense asked the question in the George Floyd case. He was like – he said, are you familiar with people smuggling drugs in their rectum? And the defense was like, no, and then he just moved on right away. Because I feel like they were setting something up later. They're going to have an expert come and talk about something that nobody knows. I think they're going to go for hooping because – Is hooping when they're swallowing or hooping when they're pulling?

I think it's as any. It's storing – smuggling drugs in your body. So when you go to Urban Dictionary and you look up Hoopin, it says shoving stuff up your butt. You know what I mean? People do it all the time. I mean, I don't know why this would be strange. People do it all the time. When you're running around with dope, you hide it on your person.

Of course. You don't walk around with a crack in your hand. Hey, hey. Going to store rubber stuff. Hold on. The rubber glove. You could put it in a Kraft Parmesan cheese box. Oh, yeah, yeah.

So in the context, I don't think he was talking about smuggling drugs because he said, I didn't do no drugs. And then when the cop's like, but you got foam on your mouth, he's like, yeah, man, I was hooping. I think he's basically trying to say- I think he's saying he's playing basketball. He's playing basketball. I mean, that's what I would get.

No, I don't. I think he was being like, yeah, I shoved drugs in my mouth. I'm out of my mind. I'm losing it. But he said, I didn't take any drugs. Right. So is he saying- He was lying all over the place. I didn't take any drugs. I just shoved mind. I'm losing it. But he said, I didn't take any drugs. Right. So is he saying, I didn't take any drugs. I just shoved them up my butt.

No, he said, I didn't take any drugs. I was hooping. That's why I'm tired. That's why I got cotton mouth. Exactly. He looked like an athletic guy. You know, he had a little tank top on. He probably still hoops.

He probably still shoot hoops every now and again. Not in that state. My theory is he was just lying all over the place. He tried to sell a fake $20 bill. He lied to the cops. Told them he was. Yeah, we know he wasn't hooping. So I know he was just lying all over the place he tried to sell a fake 20 bill he lied to the cops told him he was yeah we know he wasn't hooping i'm so i know he was lying i want to i want to get to the point of like why i bring up the story with hunter biden smoking parmesan jeez this guy hunter biden can go on tv and admit to the world the son of the president is a crack addict that smoked whatever white powder he found on the underside of his table the story about

george floyd look it's a big. We know we're not in it. Barack Obama talks about it. He's like, oh yeah, I smoked. Did Obama do coke? I don't know if that... Sure. I thought he said he did something in college, didn't he? Yeah, I thought that's...

I don't know for sure. He did TA, total absorption, where they take a hit of weed and you hold it in until it completely absorbs in and when you breathe out, there's no smoke. Well, that's not what I mean. I mean like a hard drug. Obama was hardcore.

I ain't never heard of smoke. I smoked when I was young. I'm just saying, if you get caught and get arrested for smoking pot, not so much now because it's recreational, it's legal now, you're not going to be president. But Obama can get elected and then come out and pick up.

Because he never got arrested. Look, when the story comes out about Hunter Biden and the crack pipe and all this stuff, the media buries it. They don't want anyone to know. So you've absolutely got an elite class of ultra-privileged drug addicts. They just get away with it. They can do whatever they want.

Yeah, because I think some of them, they're smarter. Where was he smoking Parmesan cheese? Probably in his house. He probably wasn't smoking Parmesan cheese on the corner of 6th and May or whatever. So the problem is that these crackheads are so cracked out of their mind, man. They're out and open doing crack. Obama admitted to doing cocaine. Yeah, but think about it.

How many people have done cocaine and never got caught? Because they were doing it in the property of their home, they may have escaped getting caught buying it from the dealer. But, I mean, I think that there's a level of stupidity that comes along with people who get caught. As a former police officer we didn't get we used to have this saying and it goes every police department probably says this you don't catch the smart ones yeah you don't catch people that's smart yep you catch the dummies yeah that are smoking weed driving down the street banging music with the windows down smoking weed to the weed just flying out of the car and they drive by you and you're

like okay bro are you really everybody at the stoplight is looking at me like are you gonna do something about this and i would have i would have never done anything about it i could care less who cares it's a little ticket that you're gonna get they're gonna throw it out in the court of law you're gonna waste my time but you're doing you're just running down the street banging music causing attention to yourself, and weed, smoke is billowing out of your window. And in a way, you got it, because if you don't, other people are going to emulate the behavior,

and then everyone on the street is going to be high, driving, or not everyone. Hold on. But now you heard, like in a bunch of these states, cops can't pull people over for smoking weed. Yeah, I mean, even when, you know, for smelling the weed. For smelling weed, not smoking it, because it's still impairment of driving impaired. But smelling marijuana is not justification for a stop.

That's been gone for our department. It's been gone probably since 2012 or earlier. It's when they started. It was a it was a case that happened. I can't remember the name of the case. But once they start legalizing medical marijuana and stuff, the smell of marijuana is not a justification for you going to somebody's house because they could have a medical marijuana card. It's not justification.

However, when you put somebody on a traffic stop, there's a difference between burning marijuana and fresh marijuana. So burning marijuana in a car means nothing. You already smoked it. I don't have anything. I smoked it. Fresh marijuana is a car means nothing. You already smoked it. I don't have anything. I smoked it. Fresh marijuana is a different smell. And that can give you justification to stop somebody and get a dog or maybe even go into somebody's car.

Is that partly because of intent to sell? Because I think what I learned is that you have nothing left if you smoked it. Oh, so you're just looking for the piece. I fed cops pull me over and then lie claiming they smelled pot. I don't smell pot. I've never. One time when I was a teenager with some friends and I was like, this is pot. I don't smell pot. I've never. One time when I was a teenager with some friends, and I was like, this is dumb. I don't care.

What was the next step? They said they smelled pot. And then what did they say? Then he walked up to my car, and I rolled out. So I got my wallet, my keys on the dashboard. I got my hands on the steering wheel. Windows rolled down. Cop walks right up and goes, hey, I said, whoa, what's that?

Whoa, sir, I smell marijuana. And I went, excuse me? And he's like, I'm going to have to ask you to get out of the vehicle. And I was like, okay. And I get? Whoa, sir, I smell marijuana. And I went, excuse me? And he's like, I'm going to have to ask you to get out of the vehicle. And I was like, okay. And I get out. I'm in my work uniform. So I have these jumpsuits for the airline at O'Hare. And then he immediately walked me to his car, puts me in cuffs, calls for backup. Backup shows up. Secondary officer comes and holds the cuffs in the middle. And then the cop goes and starts searching my car without my permission. The other cop starts talking to me and just small talk nonsense.

The cop walks up and he's got what looks like some bit of plant. And he goes, what is this? And I was like, I don't know. And he's like, it's marijuana. And I was like, is it yours? And he was like, no, I got it from your car. And I was like, no, you didn't because I don't smoke. And he was like, it was in your car.

And I'm like, I work at O'Hare. They do random drug tests. I work with planes. I don't smoke. And then he was like, just confess. And this will be a lot easier. And I was like, confess to what? It's not mine. Just confess. And it'll be a lot easier at this point. I'm talking to the other cop. And I guess, I guess the one cop goes back to my car and he's telling me that it's going to be really hard for me. It's going to be really hard for me. It's going to get a whole lot worse unless I just admit right now that I was driving under the influence, that I've been smoking. And I'm just like, dude, I don't smoke. We do random drug tests.

At this point, the cop who pulled me over walks back over and goes, who's the firefighter? And I went, my dad. Then the other cop uncoffs me, and they go, go home, kid. And they got in their cars, and they left. I had a firefighter's emblem in the glove box That my dad gave me And once they saw that, they backed off But legit, my car was full of Taco Bell garbage wrappers I don't smoke

You work for the airlines, you get random drug tests You're done, you lose your job Nobody's smoking there And so that was it The dude pulled me over and used the smell of marijuana as justification to get me out of the car and search everything. And, like, legit, I was leaving work. I'd work 16 hours. I don't smoke.

Yeah, I can see that happening. You know, some cops, they get power hungry, man, and they don't want to do the real work. They want to do the easy route. And so if they can get you to admit to some stuff, they get arrested or whatever. It's rare, I mean, because there's so many people out here committing crimes maybe if you're in a i don't know if you're in a rural area or whatever but see rural is probably they probably a lot more dicey because they don't have no work you're their work in the city you can't like it's too much work so like please stop selling drugs. Like, I'm just not going to arrest anybody anymore.

It's too much. It's like if you ever, like, tried to go after people, you'd be arresting people all day long. I mean, all day long people would do a crime. But that doesn't excuse what happened to you. You know, it's funny because when I was a kid. I don't blame every cop for that. But see, this is what I want to happen in our society is that empower people to be able to do what's right in that situation when you get hemmed up by cops that shouldn't be doing what they're doing not to

defund the police department but let's let's let's spend resources to empower people and let's get those people turned in because if you what could you have done in that situation if I was a cop and I was telling you like look get their badge number you know know, and your dad is a firefighter. He was a firefighter. And then report them. And your dad will have a lot more weight on the command staff because this is what people don't understand. Command staff don't give a F about these patrol officers. They care about publicity. They care about it.

Not all. You get a little rural area in the county somewhere. They all buddy, buddy. But in many police departments, the command staff will review it and say you know what screw that guy we'll run him over this will make our department look good and we'll do it to him let me tell you my story from when i was like 15 in south side of chicago so there's a carnival they come and they occupy certain blocks because they need a parking lot and they need space so that this these moving carnivals do a deal with the residents you know we'll make sure nobody goes on your property

well i had a friend who lived in one of those houses we go to the carnival we play the quarter game we play you know squirt gun game you know knock over the clown win some prizes we go and we sit on his lawn and we're chilling and a security guard walks over to us and he goes hey you guys got to leave and my friend goes this is my house, hey, you guys got to leave. And my friend goes, this is my house. I don't care. You got to leave. You can't be here. And then he's like, this is my house. Where am I supposed to go?

And then we get up and then I start saying the same thing. Like my friend lives here. One of the security guards grabs the skin of my chest, like just like he pinches into my chest and starts prodding my head saying, are you stupid? It's time to go. And like yelling at me. So I'm like, dude, just like left a physical mark on my body. And I'm, I'm a little arrogant, you know, prick. So I immediately called my dad and I'm like, dude, this guy just walked up,

went on my friend's property, was told it was his property. And then he physically grabbed me, left a mark and poked my head. That's assault and battery in Illinois. My dad goes, you're right. What do you want to do? And I was like, I want to press charges. And he was like, I'll be right there because there's a few blocks from my house. He shows up. He says, who was the guy? I'm like, it's those two guys there. It was an older guy, probably in his late 50s. So he's like, all right, call the police. I call the police and I say, I'm on my friend's property. Security guard just assaulted me. Cops show up and they walk over to us and say, what's going on? My dad's like, this is my son. You're like, you know,

pull up your shirt, show him your chest. And I had like a mark on my chest because he like, you know, grabbed him, pinched into my chest. And then he's like, and he's probably, and all the other kids who were with me are like, yeah. He started poking him on the head with his hand, like mocking and calling him dumb. And the cop's like, all right, all right. We're going to the bottom of this. We see the cops walk over to the security guards, start talking, shake the hands of the guys start laughing and then the guy walks over and says listen you know we're just gonna say you know we're done it's no big deal how about everybody goes home and i'm like no no that's not how it works i want this guy you know i want this guy

uh charged and they're like well we're not going to do that so my dad goes i want a supervisor on scene now white shirt shows up the white shirt white shirt walks over immediately to the guy who was screwing with me, pats him on the shoulder, shakes his hand, starts laughing and smiling, walks over to us and says, here's what's going to happen. Your son's going to be arrested for trespassing, or you can leave right now. Because it turns out the guy who had committed assault and battery, I know it wasn't the biggest thing in the world, but in Illinois, assault and battery is when you embarrass someone or touch them. Turns out he was

a retired cop. So there was nothing that could be done. So my dad, who was a firefighter, was like, I'm going to file a complaint with Internal Affairs. And guess what happened? Nothing. Nothing. I can see that happening. I can see it happening, man. To me, based on my experience, it's rare.

But if you are to think that cops aren't gonna hold each other's back in some cases they're not gonna lie in some cases then you must think that cops are gods you know there's some there's some fallible human beings that make huge mistakes and i want us to eradicate them and you eradicate them professionally professionally eradicate the mistakes yeah yeah eradicate them meaning gettingessionally. Professionally. Eradicate the mistakes. Yeah, yeah. Eradicate them, meaning getting them out of the profession.

Not killing them. I like that word, eradicate. What do you think about robot police? No. No, no. And the only reason I say that is because who's controlling them? I don't know. What if it's a decentralized algorithm that we're all aware of? Nah.

You could be like of Show me your code And you'll see it's orders But then you've got who wrote the code Can it get hacked or whatever It's not just that You've got a homeless veteran with no legs And he's smoking a joint Under a bridge with no one around

And the robot drone comes down and goes Violation section 2 3 A Marijuana use in public You are under arrest And the guy's like a and goes, violation section 23A, marijuana use in public. You are under arrest. And the guy is like a regular cop is going to be like, I don't care about that. So bad laws. The cop uses his common sense and is like, I'm not going to prosecute a bad law right now. Well, I think that it will work, but it will get out of control.

So you can – the little drone thing. I mean, it just depends. Somebody just shoots the thing out the air and now it's a bigger deal. You throw a roll of toilet paper at it yeah yeah you throw water but if it was like a terminator but if it was if it was something that could actually catch people in crimes and it'll stick around until the cops can get there or whatever yeah i mean that could work but it could that's then you get more manipulation you're like well how far would this thing go and what are they going to do in the next 10 years? Are they going to make physical cops that did use force against you?

You know what I'm saying? And then they get out of control. And then whoever's controlling them, now they make a law. And they use a force policy for, you know, a machine won't go to jail. So once they beat the crap out of you, nothing's going to happen. And it's pros and cons. So if you jaywalk, a cop can be like, I don't care if he's jaywalk a cop can be like i don't care if he's jaywalking or he can be like oh that's jaywalking you're gonna take it robot every single time will be like warning jaywalker spotted and it's gonna

stop you they could make the robot have discretion i mean as smart as ai is today they can make robots have discretion i don't think they could i physically could but not legally i think it would be too many lawsuits well it depends i mean honestly it's walking around with a body camera that's on 24 hours a day and monitoring all of the behaviors it could say it could prioritize certain things because in any given intersection you can have a jaywalker and then somebody speeding any given intersection you have a jaywalker you have somebody else doing something else more egregious or you can have a person who's jaywalking and it's not a threat or a person who's jaywalking across a green you know

you're walking across a green light um and so there could be prioritized i mean they can do whatever they want to do with these computers but i think it gets out of control i the government is not our friend in my personal so you think it's easier to get corrupt cops under control they're like buddy buddy and won't turn each other in than it is to get keep robots under control. Yeah, 100 percent. 100 percent. Because most cops don't like these bad cops. Like we had some of my department.

They got fired, but nobody liked them. It was this one guy and I won't say his name. He's always pushed the limit, pushed the envelope. You're supposed to identify where you go every time you get on the radio. You know, two out of 11, seven. That was my call sign. Two out of 11, seven. I'm checking out here with one at these cross streets he would not check out and

just be doing some rogue stuff but it wasn't against the law skirting against policy but then he he does things that lead to other things that ended up getting himself fired because he started cheating on different things and manipulating numbers but we everybody hated him he used to ask me to go on calls with him like i don't even want to go on a call with you because you're going to get us in a position where i'm gonna have to fight somebody or whatever the case may be we hated him thank god he was off the police department when he got fired everybody celebrated there's officers on the police department that are like that and i'll tell you one unfortunate thing that you won't hear people say if they're unless they want to be completely honest is that there are cops that cops don't like and they are bad cops but

they're not breaking the law right you know there's two cops that I can think of right now that if you resist arrest they're gonna work you they're gonna they're gonna tune you up and nickel rides nickel rods yeah they'll they'll tune you up and so is it legal yeah if you throw a punch at a police officer they can fight you back but they're gonna tune you up no mercy if you pull a gun on somebody or you you pull out a knife on somebody i know god will shoot you and kill you and won't even care about it probably laugh at it after a while. Is that illegal? No, I don't think it's right,

but it's not going to get you fired. Um, and those things do occur. So when people say that cops do stuff, excessive force and things, it's like, I can see that happening, but we can work to get, we can,

we can, we can work to, you know, get rid of people on the police department like that. We can work for transparency. I, I have my, you know, likes and dislikes about body-worn cameras but body-worn cameras and overall in totality of circumstances a good thing we can do more things like that on the

police department and and make things better and more transparent that's fine but defunding the police acting like every police shooting is a is a bad shoot like you're never going to get anywhere with that well let me let me ask you then so so to the point about robot cops and another point that needs to be brought up is bad laws in the constitution so right now i mean i can talk about the rigidity of a robot cop but the constitution says shall not be infringed cops in new york city don't care cops in new jersey don't care they don't care what the constitution says didn't you swear an oath to the Constitution? Police do.

Yeah, the Constitution comes before any laws. Any other state laws. How could you be in New Jersey with this one story? A woman was from Philadelphia, legally allowed to own a gun, and she was like mid-40s, and she jumped the bridge. She drove across the bridge. It's a five-minute drive. She wanted to go to the casino. She gets pulled over. A cop, without question, arrests her,, charged with a felony for gun possession.

She has a concealed carry permit from her state. She made a mistake. She was just stupid. Felony charge. Yeah, you could charge a person with that, but I don't think that's going to go far in court. It ended up, so for political reasons, this one particular case ended up getting stopped. But look, man, in Chicago, you got a lot of people who are just a dad and a family and he's like i know what they call this place shy rec so i'm buying a gun i don't care what

the law says i have a right to defend myself yeah these people get felony charges i know that's i i i'm like you and it's we need to fix these things because the constitution should trump any gun laws but it's the cops man it's not cops. It's the legislators that we elect that create the laws and cause us to enforce it. Because cops don't make the laws. Cops don't even want to enforce these laws. But you have sworn to uphold the Constitution

and the laws. How do you do both? So what's constitutionally acceptable, right? The Constitution, we have votes. People vote on legislators, and legislators pass laws. And so when they pass a law, just because you don't like it or maybe you feel that it's slightly infringing on your constitutional rights don't mean that the police shouldn't enforce them like

for instance voter laws some people believe it's an infringement on the constitutional right that they have to show identification to vote i don't i think they should enforce that so the difference i suppose is you've got i, I think, what are they? The 14th, 19th, and the 26th amendments, I think, pertain to – I could be getting the numbers wrong – pertain to voting. And so voting isn't as clearly defined in the Constitution about what you're guaranteed. There are some things where you can't be restricted based on certain characteristics, as the amendments I mentioned, like sex, race, et cetera. But when it comes to the Second second amendment the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed is it is it infringing on someone's right to bear arms

telling them they literally can't have a gun in public well i think yes but also people vote for those laws in the state of arizona will constitutional carry my rights aren't up for a vote no it's what i'm saying but i'm saying like we put it in that was michael malice by the way yeah we'll put it in totality of circumstances we'll say in the state of arizona constitutional carry we don't need permits we carry everywhere conceal whatever and it doesn't matter now one day the public in a democracy you know that we claim we live in people can vote that there can be additive laws to restrict gun possession in certain cases like convicted felons different things like that we arbitrarily vote for laws that thwart our constitutional rights to a certain degree and we vote for that

and not not everybody because some people don't agree with it but some people do just like you know that's what the constitution's for man i know i know and i think that's why you have case law and you have other things that are brought to the Supreme Court to give guidance on how to to float with this, because I guarantee you a person who has a concealed carry permit and they cross state lines prosecuting them is going to be almost impossible. I can't see a person getting prosecuted for a felony charge if they're not malice, if there's no malice in intent. Nah bro it happens. I know it happens but it's very it's very rare unless there's culpability there. Like somebody intentionally saying I'm going to break the law that I know is present in this state. I'm going to cross state lines, break the law, get caught doing

something else with this gun and you give prosecution more. There was a story about an old lady who was in her 60s and she was from I think like Kentucky and she had a legal permit for a revolver she went to visit chicago to see the sites and she went to some tourism spot where she informed security like oh before i go and i want to let you know i have my concealed carry with me and they're like right

this way ma'am felony charge she went to prison i knew a guy is that the full story though i mean that's the full story old lady had no idea what's going on and they put her in prison dude illinois is crazy, man. Real crazy. There was a dude in Illinois who his family was house-sitting for their neighbors, and the local cops knew the neighbors were out of town. This kid, he was 18. He's a man now.

And he went to the neighbor's house, took one of their beers, and started drinking it. The cops drove by and saw through the window that the kid was drinking beer, and they knew the family was out of town, so they went in and arrested him. And then what turns out, he said, I was my family's house sitting for the neighbors. They wanted us to be checking on their house. They were like, did you enter the house? Did you take property? Mandatory minimum.

Send him to prison. These stories happen, man. I got it. Now, I believe you. i trust you in good faith i have to read and listen to a court document of some of some judge sentencing somebody or even a prosecution's argument beyond a reasonable doubt that this person is guilty of this this story was really controversial. Sorry to interrupt. I'm going to look it up, man. Because there's mandatory minimum laws.

And so the judge's response was, the law is the law. I have to sentence someone who enters the property of another person and takes property. It's burglary. End of story. And apparently the prison was like,

they wouldn't... It was like ingestion or whatever. They were like, we're not going to file this paper. This is ridiculous. This is insane. We're over... Yeah or whatever. They were like, we're not going to fill out this paperwork. This is ridiculous. This is insane. We're overcrowded as it is.

And this kid who took a beer and there was like some big controversy about it. Yeah, I got to watch that, man. Because I'm like, okay, a kid, and it's a long time ago. Stuff goes wrong

in a court of law more frequently than people expect, but not as much as people want it to be. But that's very interesting that they would be able to to get a person on that and then have a complainant i mean you you got to have the people who own the house have to be victim victims of this no the cops

witnessed the crime in progress and they get the and so the police were the witnesses who said we witnessed a crime yeah that's interesting because police can't necessarily be independent witnesses of a crime. You have to have a victim. You can't just say, oh, a guy stole a beer. How do you know if that person stole the beer or the store let them have the beer? So police have to have their independent operator. They cannot prosecute people. You can be a witness to a crime to a certain degree, but you have to have a victim of a crime to, you know.

Yeah, I'll stress this point, too. These are really old stories from back when I was growing up in Chicago. And as we learned with, like, George Floyd, you always learn there was something else that they didn't tell you about. But I knew this one guy, too. And, again, this guy, this is someone I knew personally. He may have lied to me. He was from L.A. He was driving to the East Coast, and he had guns, legal guns.

He drove through Illinois. Now you got the federal law protecting your right to drive, to move. Cops didn't care. So he ended up being forced to live in Illinois for like four years because of the gun charges. But I'm wondering what... So they pulled him over. They pulled him

over at some point for something. So my understanding of what happens is he's driving from LA.A. somewhere on the East Coast, and he gets off the highway to go do something. And that's when they were like, ah, if you were moving and just passing through, you'd have been on the highway. By getting off the highway, you're now in state jurisdiction. You're in illegal possession of firearms. Yeah. I'm not saying it's wrong or right, but these cases, send them to me, man. I would love to review them.

I'll tell you, it's like, I'm biased because I've dealt with some of this stuff. So I was driving on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago. I'm exiting at Belmont. I'm about 10 miles under the limit because I'm getting off at an exit, and I get pulled over. Cop walks up to me and says,

you were speeding. Feels like a ticket says sign this. And I was like, well, I wasn't speeding. I was, I was 10 under I'm exiting. I'm on the exit. And he's like, tell it to a judge. You can sign this or I can arrest you. So I signed the ticket. Okay. I guess I forget about it. I went to visit my sister because my brother-in-law was stationed in Iraq and she was, you know, suffering from anxiety. Just like, you know, and so I'm like, okay, I'll, you know, I want to get out of the city. I'll go, i'll go to colorado once i came back two months later i got pulled over and the cop walks he pulls me over he walks into the window he goes are you tim pool and i was like yes and he goes out of the vehicle you're under arrest for driving on a

suspended license and i was like what and he was like driving on a suspended license fills it out this is where i got eye bonded he was like if someone can come and pick up your vehicle and drive you home, I won't take you to the station, but you have a court date for, what did they say, it was a Class A misdemeanor, up to one year in jail and a $2,500 fine for driving on a suspended license. When I went to court and I talked to the prosecutor and I was just like, I'm really sorry it happened. I was in Colorado. I was in Fort Yusef. I think it's, no, not Fort Yusef.

Carson. Fort Carson, that's right. I was at Fort Carson visiting my sister. My brother-in-law is in Iraq, you know, Iraq. And so, but I had just gotten back and I was literally back from Colorado, you know, a mile from my house. And he went, oh, so you confess. No joke. He's like, oh, you confess to driving on a suspended license. And I was like, well, I'm just trying to let you know, like, I didn't get trying to let you know like i didn't get any notification he's like ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it so if you want to plead guilty we can talk about what your sentence is going to be and so then i was like okay i'll plead guilty and he was like i'll tell you this we'll give you a hundred dollar fine court supervision if you plead guilty right now and i was like okay and then when i went up in

front of the judge he said how do you plead and plead? And I said, guilty, your honor. And he goes, and do you state for the record or whatever that you were in no way coerced to make this plea? And I said, no, I was coerced, your honor. And he went, excuse me? And I was like, I was coerced to plead guilty. So what are you talking about? And I was like, he told me that if I didn't plead guilty, I'd go to jail for a year. And then the judge was like, come back in a month and get a lawyer. Every lawyer I got said, it doesn't matter if there was a reasonable reason why you were driving. It doesn't matter if there's a sympathetic reason. It doesn't matter that you didn't actually break

the law in the first place. My license got suspended because if you get two tickets under the age of 21, they suspend your license for three months. I wasn't speeding. The cop gave me a bunk ticket anyway. I had no means to fight that ticket because I was a bro. I think I was like 19 or something. I was, no, I think I was, yeah, I was 19. I had no way to fight it. So I was just like, I don't know. And then I forgot about it. And then after some amount of time, it went into, uh, I forgot what they call it, where it's, it becomes a guilty plea if you don't respond. And I had no idea. I had no way to pay for a $75 ticket. And I didn't know that as soon as you pay for it,

you're pleading guilty. Otherwise, I would have contested it. So I'm gone for two months right before I get a chance to go home, before I got any mail, knew anything was happening. They said, you broke the law by driving. Then they tried,

they threatened me with a year in jail. That's kind of stuff I'm, you know, so I, we, we. So you were guilty. I mean, you gotta say you were guilty. You were at fault. You were wrong. Now there's a great, there's. Now hold on a second. I mean, you got to say you were guilty. You were at fault. You were wrong. Now, there's a great. Now, hold on a second.

I was legally guilty, but I did nothing wrong. So but but but I'll say this and I agree. I agree with you. But at the same time, this is why I want to empower young people to to know how to fight these things when they feel like they've been done wrong. Because if you were not speeding, you have a right to fight that. You don't need it. You don't need a lawyer. I got illegally pulled over. I don't I only learned that after the, you have a right to fight that. You don't need a lawyer. I got illegally pulled over.

I only learned that after the fact. And you don't need a lawyer. All you got to do is go to court, and the state has the burden, or it's not necessarily the same as a criminal charge, but the preponderance of evidence is going to be on them. They have to show preponderance of evidence to cite you on a citation like that. So you should go to court and say, I was not speeding. on the off ramp this is what i was doing the officer pulled me over and and but it's also things you could ask a police officer that if he doesn't say he he screws

himself like how did he track your speed was he doing a radar was he pacing you or was he um somehow doing a visual estimate well so so in this instance, after I think it was like three months, there was a deadline to pay the ticket. And my sister paid it for me. And that was a guilty plea. It didn't matter at that point. And I didn't know about the suspension law. They said ignorance was no excuse for breaking it. But I also didn't realize that by saying, okay, I'll give you the money you've asked for, I was effectively going to be committing a crime by trying to go home.

But here's the thing I realized after the fact. When I was back, this was in Glen Ellyn, Illinois. When I was back, it was like late at night, like midnight or two in the morning. The cop who pulled me over, pulled me over illegally. What he did was he ran my plates, saw my name registered to the car, saw that my name was associated with a suspended license, and that was just his grounds for pulling someone over but that's actually not a legal stop because what if someone else was driving the car he didn't have justification for stopping the car in the first

place right that could be true that could be true depending on the state and also depending on what he can articulate right if he yeah if he's if he's no but if he see your driver's license if you see your driver's license they have a picture of mbd driver license and the person in the vehicle look like you it's very similar to you similar characteristics he can conduct an investigate investigative stop meaning that he has reason to believe that you are tim pool driving he see you he believed that you're the same person that matched the driver's license some states prohibit this but but um some states allow it as an investigative stop he can pull you over and you've confessed i am temple okay well my investigative stop was that i thought

it was you you agreed that it was you and now you're driving on suspended license i've found this is true this is the problem uh so i my understanding after the fact was that he needed a legitimate reason looks like i ended up talking to lawyers or whatever that you can't just assume somebody is driving a car because there's a lot of people who would look like a lot of people. And I guess Chicago Lend-A-Way has issues with this kind of stuff. But ultimately, my complaint is,

look, I get it. Yeah, I broke the law. That's a fact. But we can't have the rigidity. The system can't be this rigid where it punishes young people for silly things like this. And to have some 40-year-old guy look me in the eye and say, I'm going to put you in jail for one year unless you do what you're told.

And I'm like, bro, is there no consideration for the humanity in any of these circumstances? The answer is no. I think it's the empowerment of the people, right? It's our fault to a certain degree that we don't know the laws. It's laws it's our fault that we don't know because because to be honest we can all look this up for cop i mean this is why i think it's important to empower people to know this because some people don't know they can't do this you can look up these laws and read them yourself if you go and get pulled over by a police officer and you say well what are my charges and they give you a charge they write them down you can go can go and Google in the state law or whatever or municipality.

You can Google the law and read the statute. And it says very clearly this statute has to be met. And if they don't, you're like, okay, I can defend myself in court, Your Honor. According to this statute, subsection so-and-so did this and this. I was not committing this. He pulled me over illegally. The state has the preponderance of evidence to prove. He has to prove more than 51% of the evidence that, no, he was right.

In this instance, the problem I have is at no point are you informed by anyone that if you get two moving violations under the age of 21, they suspend your license. They should inform you when you get your driver's license. They don't. Because then you have to go through and look at the laws, the driving laws. You should review them. And hopefully on your driver's license, you confirm that you have reviewed and understood the laws that are on the books by admitting to or accepting a driver's license. You are accepting the responsibility that you are aware of all the driving laws and you maintain a concurrent knowledge or an ongoing knowledge of the laws. And if you don't, we need to be empowered because if we are not empowered, then we believe that it's an excuse to not know the laws.

And the judge is like, I don't care. Why don't you look it up? I don't have to babysit you and let you know. You should look it up and know the laws yourself. Or you can hire a lawyer. So it's definitely difficult but we need to be empowered and take our position back of saying i don't have to default to a lawyer um if i if i just read the statute unless it's complicated i think the system

needs the system itself needs to default more to a libertarian stance of all right we understand what happened in this regard don't do it. Most of the time it's like that. I would get furious at judges because they give people too many passes. Now I'm talking about a traffic ticket. That's whack. You know, we would go to the court and people would lose those tickets and they just pay a fine and it's fine. Or sometimes they win.

They go, well, I find that there's not a preponderance of evidence or whatever by the state. You know, you're not guilty or whatever you not not responsible not guilty as a criminal charge but when i would go to court you talking about going to court they would let people off all the time i had a guy i arrested him four times black kid i arrested him four times in in a matter of like a week one was a felony charge of four felony crimes trafficking stolen property and a whole bunch of other stuff we i had a 20 charge of four felony crimes trafficking stolen property and a whole bunch of other stuff we i had a 20-minute conversation with him a comment of jesus conversation with him he goes to jail i'm thinking that he's gonna at least stay in there for a night

the next day we get a call for service of a person pulling on doorknobs he's trying to get into vacant houses i recognize him i say hey man and i'm just gonna talk to him he gets spooked he runs he almost dies running the middle of the street. He goes on a chase. I had to chase him down. We ran through somebody's house, through the house, jumped backyards. He had all kinds of felony crimes he could have been charged with. And it's another story of why the lady didn't prosecute. And this is the dumbest thing ever.

And I have to mention it, but I'll go past that. Long story short, five misdemeanor crimes that he committed that day which is after he committed felony crimes he goes to court again like uh two or three days later i catch him at a in a in somebody's vacant house i didn't know it was him was a bunch of kids i go and i'm recognizing see him in there run his name he has a domestic violence warrant after his arrest because he beat up his aunt and then knocked their windows out of their house so now i've arrested him three times for felony charges violent charges he's fleeing the police and he i think it was two weeks later a month later i saw him out of jail at a bus stop it's like how on god's green earth do you commit that many crimes and you and some of them are violent domestic violence and you don't

even you don't even do a week in jail i mean maybe a month in jail problem goes both ways man that's it that's it some people are given a free pass and some people are given the book you know what i mean yeah and i and i think that more people get passes than the book people just don't think so give you an example my family member 70 years in prison how did he get 70 years in prison he shot two three people um and he was in possession of illegal drugs because i had looked up his charges. And he was a prohibited possessor. He was already a convicted felon. So he shouldn't have had a gun. He shot three people and he was

in possession of a dangerous substance. They gave him 70 years. How many years do you think he did? Or he's going to do? 20. Just guessing. How many did you say? 20? 15. They're going to give him 15 and he'd be out in parole. Oh, I got it! Yeah, 15. 15 years he'd be out in parole oh i got it yeah 15 15 years he'd

be out of parole which is like price is right you know like get close to them without going but 70 versus 15 think about the people you shot yeah probably like i hope you go to i hope you go i don't i don't like the idea that we just say like lock him away for a long time i think the idea is like we gotta we gotta help this person you know what i mean like i think so too maybe maybe not if you're you're dealing with kids kids you probably should go to prison for the rest of your life or you or you have legitimately raped a woman with force you should go to you should go to jail until she feels comfortable with you being out of jail that's what i think different crimes some crimes lock them up throw away the key i support execution i'm just afraid of executing the

wrong people but same with throwing the wrong people away for a lifetime. Right, too. But, you know, like you said, some people get the bad end of the stick. Some people, you know, they had appeals. They were guilty. They had opportunities at fair trial. They lost. Now it's over. Look, for all the

problems, a lot of people don't realize we got a pretty good system. Well, the problem, name a better one. Every human should read every law like the the flaw in the system that i'm getting is every human should read every law and understand every law federal and state and local and then tomorrow make sure you reread everything or at least acknowledge all the changes made to every law so so you know every law at every moment. And if you don't, that's a problem. Even the people that sign the laws in the law in Congress don't read the bill sometimes before they sign it or vote on it.

That's a huge flaw in the system that we're going to need to address. But I don't think you have to know all the laws, just like you don't have to know all the real estate laws or whatever the case may be, because then you have access to counsel. So people who are experts in it, you just need to know the functional laws like maybe if you're going to speed just know the speeding laws you know if you're going to be operating a motor vehicle and you know whatever you need to know how to function the vehicle know the turns know the basic laws if you're going to be murdering people then you need to know the

murder laws but if you're not murdering nobody you don't need to know laws around murder yeah or laws around aggravated assault or domestic violence or if you're not going to be doing those things but you can always read these laws and be informed as things pop up i think it's invaluable for people to watch these cases that go on in the court of law i used to watch court tv all the time even when i was a cop because you learn a lot like the george floyd trial people should be watching it not only to pick a side but to learn how the court system works so when you mess around and be watching it, not only to pick a side, but to learn how the court system works. So when you mess around and be in court, hopefully not for murder, but when you go to court, you will understand the value of defense and the value of functionality. We got to go to Super Chats.

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But let's read some of these Super Chats. We do have a bunch of people who are basically already saying that they're so stoked that B. Tatum is here finally. Thank you. We get messages all the time, like every night. They're like, when's Brandon coming on the show? Yeah, I get the same messages. When are you going to go on Tim Poole's show? I'm like, hey, one of these days we're going to cross paths. Bwee says, Tatum time.

There you go. All right, so let's try and find some. That's one of my people. Oh, nice. Is that your show, Tatum? Tatum time? No, no, no. It's just a person that followed me.

I see the Super Chats when they Super Chat on my channel. Sean Burrow says, today I didn't have to decide who to watch. Thank you, Tim and B Tatum. Keep doing what you do. Good show so far. Thank you. Keith McCracken says, Long time, second time. Do you think that there should be more incentive on trade schools and student loan

forgiveness for said schooling? I'm an HVAC tech in SoCal. I think high schools should incentivize trade schools over universities. Love you all. I absolutely agree. 100%. I agree 1,000%. I couldn't agree more.

College is whack. It's a money grab. College is a farce. You go and spend $40,000 and don't learn nothing and don't do anything with what you supposedly learned. In the past, the internet. No, I mean, now the internet's out. You really don't. University is kind of excessive.

No, you don't. You can buy books. You want to know about finances? Buy books from financial people who are successful. Dave Ramsey has stuff. It's like credit karma. And I'm not trying to, you know, I'm giving them a boost right here, but I don't know much about credit. But I was able to build my credit score over 800 just using credit karma.

Wow. All I do is look at the things that they say is wrong. It's free. And I say, well, I'm going to fix these things. And then, you know, I Google a few things and listen to a few people, and I'm able to build my credit. So I didn't need to go to school for that and pay $40,000 and have somebody, you know, tell me about feminist studies and Black Lives Matter and then tell me about finances. Yeah.

I didn't need it. All right. Critical Six Games says, can you give my vet buddies Twitch a shout out? It's OZ underscore rebel. We play Warhammer 40K and talk about lore. We're on most nights after 8. I'm Mane Eldar. Love the show. Ian's the best.

Trevor's the worst. We gotta be nice to Trevor. Trevor, I love you. I wanna hear Trevor's story. Don't listen to the haters, man. Rising Underdog says, Stephen Crowder took a knee to the neck this morning for the same amount of time. He was uncomfortable, but talked and breathed the entire time. And they put his knee on his neck. But did the dude

have his hands in his pockets? Yeah, but the thing is, and I don't want people to get superfluous about it, but the question is, did the knee on the neck cause George Floyd to go into a cardiac arrest? So if Steven Crowder was high on drugs and had a knee on his neck, would it have caused him to go into a cardiac arrest? Of course, a normal functioning person is not going to cause him to die. He does have a cardiac condition. He does. He does have a cardiac condition. He does.

He does have a heart condition, which if I was him, I wouldn't have ever tried that. I wouldn't die over George Floyd examples, but I love Stephen Crowder. Yeah, he's rad. Captain says, you finally have a cop on your show.

Can you please ask Brandon about military gear that defund police keep talking about? Because to me, it seems defensive only. Oh yeah, these people are nutty. Militarization of police is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. We need that stuff. And it's more than just running around with tanks and stuff. That's dumb.

We need ballistic gear. We need, you know, rifles. We need armored vehicles. I was on a SWAT team. That stuff is all necessary only to defend the public. We don't just ride down your street in a tank just looking who we're going to slap across the head. A lot of it is handling these domestic terrorist incidents and critical incidents where people are mass shooting. That stuff is – we need that.

And people don't realize this too because I've talked about to a certain degree the quote-unquote demilitarization. But I would say my opinion changed a little bit when I had a conversation with someone on the show about the options police have. So if you have a cop and literally police just have a 9mm or a revolver or a pistol, well, when they get into a conflict, they have one choice. I can shoot the guy or I cannot shoot the guy. And if they're facing lethal violence or they're facing any kind of reasonable fear of harm, they can choose lethal.

If you give cops rubber bullets, if you give them armored personnel carriers, if you give them better armor, they can choose a whole array of things that prevent lethal force. Yeah, and confidence too. If you're walking around with a vest on, like I was, you're not overconfident, but you're pretty sure you can stay in the fight.

You don't have to panic or whatever if you're going into somebody's house, because you've got a vest on. If they hit that bullet with a regular handgun and that vest that you got, I mean, you can fight back and you can live through it. It gives you a level of confidence. And when you have multiple tools on the belt, you can use other things than shooting people. When you only have a gun, you either get your butt kicked or kill them. When you have other options, you know, you can be trained and less lethal and de-escalation tactics and stuff, and they all work well. Yeah.

All right. Christopher Westeram says, I asked you this when Michael Malice was on. Maybe Mr. Tatum knows something about it. Why isn't the state pursuing felony murder rule against George Floyd's friends? Minnesota has the harshest. I know. That's a reasonable question, you know, and I think it's because of politics. That guy was clearly implicated in a crime.

Why is the police officer and the police officer the only ones implicated in this crime when through this investigation they have learned that he was a drug dealer testimony in the court of law by witnesses. He was the drug dealer who dealt drugs that led to the death of George Floyd. And especially once they find out he died from an overdose and not the knee on the neck, the statute of limitations is not over. They can still pursue charges. They won't, but they should. They won't do it. They should, but they don't want the city to burn down again. It's political, just like they paid George Floyd's family.

How do you pay $27 million and we don't know who's at fault? How do you pay $27 million? And people don't understand this. In the middle of the trial. Before the trial officially started. While they were doing jury selection. Anyway. All right.

Stephan Moore says, hey, Officer Tatum, have you had many encounters with sovereign citizens? Are they much different from other types of people who resist arrest? I haven't had many encounters with sovereign citizens. But we hear horror stories. Just know that cops, when they do meet sovereign citizens it's a biased interaction because sovereign citizens in the academy are deemed like the most dangerous people and they kill police officers at a higher rate they are they do not want anything to do with the government so police officers are a heightened awareness when you find a person who has a license plate that says sovereign or that free or whatever

they write on the license plates. The interaction with police is very tense because we are told that they're going to kill us. Nathan Rayner says Derek Chauvin did not have his hands in his pockets. He is wearing black gloves. If that's true, thank you for clarifying that. Regardless, his hands were either in his

pocket or on his side and they weren't doing anything to help George Floyd which I'm not making an argument that he should have but I'm making an argument that the optics were bad have you ever done that or like just put your full, was it his full weight unless you're dumb you never put your full weight

this tactic that you use, that you use leverage you never put your full weight on the leg that's on the person because as soon as he moves you done you fall over and you balance the weight between your body leverage and the weight, a little bit of weight on him. The thing is, is that you don't have to put much weight on a person because your knee across the clavicle or the upper back of somebody is so much more leverage than they have face down on the ground. You don't need a lot of force. They do the thing where someone's laying down on their back, and you put your finger on their forehead and tell them, try and sit up.

And as long as they're trying, they can't. Have you ever done that to someone? I've never done it to somebody. Yeah, you just hold your one finger on that, and they can't sit forward. I wouldn't have you do it as a cop because then somebody bites your finger. They can twist up, but they can't sit directly up. All right, Christopher says, Tim, you've been challenged.

Professional BMX rider and YouTuber Mike Feed made a video wanting to check out the compound skate park. His tail whip variations versus your flip trick variations. I'll bet on him. That sounds great. We'll look into him and maybe we'll have him come out. We'll film a video in the skate park because I'll be honest. I certainly don't utilize the park to its full extent because I'm an old guy. But get someone who's actually a pro or has a career in these sports,

and we'll film some really amazing stuff. So the venue stuff that we've set up in the external skate park, it's called the Grind Bar. You can actually grind the bar. We made it so that the bar where you walk up to get drinks is grindable. I think you can pull it off. It'll be real fun. We'll film it.

It'll be great. Skateboards? You do skateboards? Skateboard. Yeah, I skateboard. I've been rollerblading quite a bit lately because it's just like inline skates yeah inline because uh most people can't stand on a skateboard there's like two people in the house who can actually stand on skateboards everyone else can can inline so when i'm trying

to get people to go out and use the parks funny story people have never heard me say this people don't even know this about me uh i used to do, when I was younger, I used to inline skate. Oh, for real? Me and my brother used to go to State Park. He used to do bikes, and I used to have the inline skates. My mom bought me $300 skates when they were young, and I really wanted to be like an X-Games dude. And then I broke my wrist doing a, I think I tried to do a 520.

I can't remember. 540? Maybe 520. I said 520. Yeah. X-Games got rid of rollerblading a long time ago. Too dangerous? Did they? No, no, no. It just wasn't popular? I used to love X Games got rid of rollerblading a long time ago. Too dangerous? Did they?

No, no, no. It just wasn't popular? I used to love it. The rollerblade was way cooler than me. Really? Because I could spin. I could do a 720 off a ramp that's this high, from the table to this high. I could do a 720.

I had an ability to spin. The thing is, I couldn't drop in from these big half pipes. One of the things I want to do, too, is I've been skateboarding for 23 years. Wait, no, no, no. How old am I? 22 years? 23 years? It's a long time.

A long time. Too old to remember. And I've done so much, all the different flip tricks. I've just basically done a little bit of everything. Never actually done full vert, though. But I want to get people to come out here who don't just skate. I want to do more of that. I want to get BMX riders. I want to get inline. I want to get people to come out here who don't just skate i want to do more of that i want to get bmx riders i want to get in line i want to get scooters i'll give me

a pogo stick just you know because i don't want it to be about i don't want it to be so rigid and boring i want it to be exciting and creative so if someone's got a pogo stick and they can do something crazy and a half pipe let's do it that'll be that'll be crazy that'll be awesome you know what i mean one day i gotta come here and put the skates on man i haven't put them on since i was young i think i was i was don't get hurt make everybody sign a waiver yeah i know right i'm gonna sue you but no like i think i think it'd be really rad to have someone do bmx uh so here's the thing i the first thing i want to do is get bmx bikes because everybody can ride a bike like we i i show people we got some extra skateboards and everyone's like i can't stand on that thing let alone drop in or do anything but you can ride

a bike yeah drop in it's crazy the problem is i don't know how to make a bike so i like started looking online for like how to make a good bike, and I just don't know anything about BMX. Well, you just buy the frames. It's just not – I went to these – I could buy a stock bike, I guess, like pre-built, but those are like – pre-builds are never as good as someone who knows what they're buying. The thing about inline was I went to a Rollerblade website,

and I just clicked some things and pressed enter, and then everyone's riding around having fun, and they're getting exercise. It's easy. We got an RC car, like car like a heavy duty one that we're taking on the yeah we skate pipe downstairs they get destroyed yeah we had to throw the battery away so we got this really expensive rc monster truck and we launched it off a two-foot ramp and i got it it's cool because once it's in midair you can use the it's four-wheel drive by reversing the direction of the wheels in midair you can cause it to flip and change midair, you can use its four-wheel drive by reversing the direction of the wheels in midair. You can cause it to flip and change directions.

Oh, okay. You can actually manipulate. So I got it to go up, stop, and then do a backflip. Landed perfectly. However, the other 99 times it was bouncing around, smashing. And it's a LiPo battery, so it got smashed. And we're like, we better not do that because it could explode. That was awesome.

It looked awesome, though. So definitely, long story short, BMX dudes, inline skateboarders, we're going to have a good time, and people are going to do some cool stuff, and we'll film all of it. It'll be fun. Perfect, perfect. All right, let's see. Hunter Atkins says, Tim, I used to be prescribed fentanyl.

It came on a one-by-one-inch translucent patch. It is measured in micrograms. 75 micrograms an hour. Patch lasted three days. Evil stuff. That's crazy. Yeah, that's weird. I try to avoid drugs at all costs,

like even when it's medically. Like, for instance, my ears, I had fluid in my ears, and I flew on a plane, and I still haven't got my hearing back in two weeks. But they prescribed me all this medication. He just went in there, and he said, oh, okay, I'm going to give give you steroid this this this and this and i'm like i'm

not taking none of that i just even though i paid for i just i'm not gonna take this i'm really reticent about non-plant-based stuff in general but especially opiates and they are plant a lot of them are plant-based but like opiates are hardcore man i like to do i like to do natural as natural as i can olive oregano i use all of oregano it's so good for you i i like to do i like to do natural as natural as i can all of oregano i use all of oregano it's so good for you i i try to stay natural as possible man that other stuff i don't want to get addicted to anything nick 8109 says most fentanyl is coming from china they have unusual laws they just change the compound by adding magnesium or something ian mdma molly and crystal meth are completely different yeah they are but they're both methamphetamines

yeah i know nothing about it. I never arrested anybody with molly when I was, it seemed like that was more of maybe a southern thing or something molly. We never even encountered molly pills. Rich white kid party drug? Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Or, you know, they rap about mollies and popping pills.

Yeah, that's true. You know, and then we say it's a disease. It's just not, you. People are making decisions to pop molly and all this stuff. Anyway. Alright. Toxoplasma Gandhi says I have a rare painful obscure disease and a severe case. I was put on oxytens which isn't anything. Pain meds are

regulated. The problem is that they write old folk off a menu for a disc and guys like me nada. Yeah. What he's saying, I mean, I hope i'm interpreting right he's saying that they just write prescriptions like he's going out of style for older people i i noticed this and i'm pretty sure you're identified with this man they just over prescribe and then the pharma the big pharma industry i'm skeptical of them because they give you something that need

another thing they need another thing and so you got a headache and then you're taking five p and it starts with the food i rail on the sugar industry non-stop it's like the tobacco industry of the 50s they're trying to sell to kids get them addicted early and then they try and sell you pills to lower your blood pressure because the sugar made your blood pressure go up yeah you know adhd and stuff like that and it's like you know i think that they over prescribe these things so they can sell Ritalin or whatever that – what's that drug? Adderall. Adderall. I know grown people that take Adderall.

Why is it that people get a quart of caffeine-laced soda with their fast food meals? All that sugar gives – like your body goes crazy. And what happens is – I could be wrong about this, but my understanding is when you get too much much sugar your body diverts energy to getting that excess sugar out of your system so what you need to do is take a bunch of caffeine so that you got the upper and so the sugar is hurting you and you're drinking the stimulant to be active and then you're addicted to you're addicted to caffeine yeah and then you have headaches when you can't go to that's why i stay away from caffeine as much as i can because i don't want to get addicted. You know, I know people that go to Starbucks every day because coffee right here. You have to or you'll hit a star. Yeah.

Or I just lay here for two or three days in a fatigue trying to get it out of my system. I do drink coffee every day, but I don't have it that bad if I don't drink coffee. Yeah. Some people probably don't. Yeah. It's like if you drink natural coffee or you are you. Yeah. We get this like special organic biodegradable Keurig thing.

It's made of corn or something. I think it's Berkeley. Some Berkeley coffee. SF Bay. SF Bay, I like it. It's very good. Really good. And that's what you drink?

Yeah, also Krigler coffee. Adam Krigler has his own coffee company. Only the best. Only the best. Code Red says, on the Parmesan cheese tip, when you're smoking crack and you run out, start thinking about all the pieces that you dropped. Due to this, you start hunting for whatever's in the carpet. In the carpet.

Spin the gorilla. That's what he said. Is that what he said? Yes, he said. He grabbed Parmesan cheese out of the carpet and smoked it. Man, that's a powerful drill. I'm going to give the gorilla a little spin. It's too heavy to blow.

Manual spin. Let's just pretend. Okay, you got your spin. Beautiful. Got your gorilla. Crystal, you got your spin. Beautiful. Get your gorilla. Crystal Sparta says, too, Brandon, about opioids. Yeah, but what if you need that strong opioid because nothing else works to relieve the pain? It's extremely difficult for my brother to get what he needs because of these yahoos that abuse it.

No, yeah, I agree. I agree. And that's the problem. I mean, it's the problem with everything, just like food stamps and government assistance. Like, you know, I think that in some places people need it. You know, at one point in my life, I used it for three months and I got off of it to do something better. But same thing with the opioid, because these nut jobs are out here abusing it. And some of these organizations are just throwing them like candy.

Now people that really need it are not getting access to it because they got to jump through these hoops. So I agree that that needs to change. I really wish that we can get a hold of it. They used to give soldiers morphine, like in World War II, particularly in Vietnam. And they'd come back from like a massive wound. And they used to eject them. They'd come back addicted to morphine, which is an opiate that would lead them to heroin and other opiates. We got a big one.

Jonathan Galtarini says we should talk about how Biden says he will be signing executive orders on gun control tomorrow. I only own one gun, but I love knowing that people around me have guns in Texas. I feel safer knowing good guys have guns. But I got to read into this. What exactly is an executive order supposed to do? Because I can't imagine it'll do much. No, I have no idea. It'll get struck down by the courts in five minutes.

And states are not going to abide by it. They don't have to. You know, just like they have, you know, the sanctuary cities for illegals. You can have sanctuary cities and sanctuary states for Second amendment we're in one yeah yeah okay so where i live they maricopa county and uh another county i think is pinell county are fighting or they are sanctuaries counties to where they're not going to uphold or enforce any of these unconstitutional second amendment laws the atf will though yeah but good luck yeah they might that's a great thing to where they're not going to uphold or enforce any of these unconstitutional Second Amendment laws. The ATF will, though. Yeah, but good luck.

Yeah, they might. That's the great thing about this decentralized United States, man, because in Chile, for instance, it's only federal police everywhere. There are no state police. If it's a federal thing, that's it. The boot is on your neck. Right, right. There's no way they're going to be able to function with 300 million guns in households or whatever, 100 million rifles.

They're not going to be able to get everybody. And I tell you what, this is the hill that I'll fight on this one. So I hope that they don't try anything like that. Yeah. Let's see. I know Jansen says, B Tatum, do you know Donut Operator? What's your opinion on him? Oh, I don't know him, man. He's funny, man. I'm trying to get my videos like his, man. You know, it's funny. I thought about starting another channel inspired by you, Tim. Oh, wow. You got all kinds of channels everywhere.

I want to start another channel about diagnosing these law enforcement interactions and just giving it from a police perspective. Because you don't see that in most police officers that are currently on the job. They can't do that. Donut Operator has a channel where he's doing exactly what I'd like to do. His stuff is funny, though, man. That dude is funny. I was like, dang, I'm not funny like him. Because he had this one video where this dude kicked the, he came in the house.

I think somebody had a knife or something. The dude just boot stomped this guy. And it was the funniest thing I've ever seen. I think he kicked him so hard his shoe came off. Oh, wow. The cop kicked him so hard his shoe came off. The cop kicked him so hard his shoe came off. Which the guy deserved it. I think he was holding somebody with a knife or something.

Christopher Skamra says, I love that you guys are entering into media production. I'm a film producer and DP from Ohio looking to contribute. I send a message to Spin the UFO and the info email to hopefully start a conversation. Would love to collab. Definitely. But there's only so many people here so far,

so it's going to be slow growth. If we were like a thousand person company, we'd be able to green light tons of projects. Do it right. But we're getting there and we're going to start doing entertainment shows, comedy shows. We're looking at a sitcom right now.

Really? Yeah, like legit just producing a sitcom because comedy is powerful and we need people who want to make fun of these woke weirdos and cultists and bring back comedy to like a sane, normal place. 100%. It doesn't have to be pushing conservatism or liberalism. It just has to be regular people making fun of people who are stupid or crazy.

Right, because ridiculousness is not political. You're just a dummy. Like some of these people are just dummies. I don't care what political stance you're on. What people are saying is just absolutely ridiculous. But I think it's great. We need to win back the war on culture and comedy. Jake Benoist says,

Timcast already the best podcast out there. And then you go and bring in the officer Tatum. Please ask B. Tatum to give us all a ladies and gentlemen and gentlemen and ladies, let's get into this. Thanks for all y'all do. All right, I'll do it for him if you don't mind. Ladies and gentlemen and gentlemen and ladies. Let's get into this. Thanks for all y'all do. All right. I'll do it for him if you don't mind.

Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen and ladies, let's get into this. I love it. See, I got to do my whole spew to do it right. But I think they got the gist of it. I love it. Right on. Tilt Rod says Sir Robert Peel developed a set of principles that would define ethical policing in 1829. I believe these Peelian principles need to be reexamined and taught to our police forces. No, I never heard of it.

I never heard of the principles. And this is what I would say. I think that most people that want to criticize police, and it's good criticism. I criticize them all the time. That do a ride-along with a police officer or go and tour the police facility. Know what police officers are being trained before there's commentary because a lot of people say a lot of things about police not not talking about the person who's super chatting but i've seen it come up where people say a lot of things about the police and they don't know they don't know

anything that police do they go why do they should be trained like this it's like what they are that dude is an idiot he was trained not to do that right you don't shoot a person in the back we don't train to shoot somebody in the back. Which case was that? Walter Scott. Walter Scott, that's right. That was messed up. What was that?

That guy went to prison though, right? Yeah, he went to prison. Let me say this. Every cop that has done something wrong has been indicted, in my personal opinion. Walter Scott was a clear example. He shoot the guy in the back. The guy had owed like $40,000 of back child support, which I'm sure his baby mama probably wanted him to get shot in the back. He didn't pay

his child support. He gets pulled over and confronted by the police. He fights the guy. He fights the cop. Knocked the taser out of the guy's hand and take out running. So the cop, which is a bad cop, and I hope he go to jail for the rest of his life, he shoots the guy in the back. No, actually, I hope he get the death penalty. He shoots the guy in the back, which he won't, but he should.

He shoots the guy in the back, and then he goes up and puts a taser on him and try to stage it I think Walter Scott was an idiot too you got what was coming to you do you deserve to die? No but you got what was coming to you and that cop should get a death penalty I oppose death penalty

I think he should get a death penalty I think any cop like cops like regular people maybe you can negotiate. But if you have a badge and a uniform on and you kill somebody in cold blood like that, you have a heightened responsibility. You should get the death penalty. You know better. I'm not saying the leftists would agree with you. I'm not saying a controversial shooting.

I'm not saying a George Floyd situation where it's a controversial death. When you shoot a man in his back as he's running away, not a threat to others. You have no articulable reason and you plant a taser on him. You have murdered him in cold blood with a badge on. You should get the death penalty. Wow. That's my thoughts. Trevor Brantigan says, I am Trevor. So we've discovered

who Trevor is. Trevor has emerged. Welcome. Let's see. Crumbopulous says, first Super Chat loved the show. B Tatum is the real middle class needs to come on the show way more I'm inclined to agree

I agree too Krumbopulous well you're always welcome man just live far away when I'm on this side of the world dude this is great having you on the show

I felt like we barely just got into because talking about the cops and law is so important yeah and then you had another guest on here that didn't know what he's talking about we didn't even talk about no knock really

having you on with some of the debate would be cool it would be fun too yeah arguments we're gonna do it yeah just a debate we don't have to argue be mean with each other just just a conversation to be really good for the people not like point to brandon. Point. Not one of those debates. Yeah, yeah. All right. Clay Pyre says, please make sitcom. We got a plan for it. And other things, too. Comedy specials. I actually want to just get a comedy special.

It'll be one of the easiest things we can do. Because we know a lot of these great comics. They make amazing comedy. It is... Look, comedy is just getting too close to woke. Not everyone. Like Dave Chappelle, Joe Rogan, Ricky Gervais. Ryan Long. They poke fun.

Ryan Long, definitely. So I want more of it. And I want to, you know, Comedy Central is just not, oof. You know what I mean? We need to make it sexy again, man. Make comedy fun and happy. I'll tell you a quick story that happened to me. And people with down days, they'll pee to bed and cry themselves to sleep.

One of my really good friends, he was a redneck white guy and i'm an inner city black guy and we used to we used to poke fun each other every day and we always try to one-up each other he one-upped me like nobody's business in the briefing every every officer you know every once once a briefing they'll bring food so everybody a turn. Guess what he brought food for me? Fried chicken. He brought watermelons. He brought grape Kool-Aid. Something else stereotypical that he brought. They were like a black person

thing. And it was the funniest thing ever. He won all time. But people nowadays would be like, what a racist. He brought a watermelon. I can't even bring myself to say collard greens because I thought people were going to call me a racist. But they're delicious. I grew up on collard greens. They're amazing.

Every holiday we ate collard greens. I never had them until I was older, but they're amazing. He's basically doing it because he's playfully ribbing you as his buddy. Yeah, and it's funny to me because it's funny to both of us. Racism and all this stuff, it's like whatever. He's bringing up all these stereotypes that are funny to us because they mean nothing right somebody brought if you brought a watermelon here like hey brandon welcome to the show i'm not gonna be like i can't believe you

racism i'm like you don't get like because of this now all of a sudden it's like bad to have watermelon or fried chicken yeah it's good food i love that listen i don't i don't know a white person that don't love fried chicken right i don't know and if you don't love it you're not getting the right person cooking it that's just it for my birthday i asked no cake give me a watermelon put candles in the watermelon watermelon is a bomb we used to put uh and i know i know this is this is real ghetto but we used to put uh kool-aid packs in the watermelon and put it in there mix it in there oh dude that's smart it in there and mix it in there. That's smart. It's not healthy.

That's why we got diabetes and stuff. No, no, no. I watched this video where they cut a hole on top of watermelon and then take a beater and put it in and mix it around. And then it basically makes juice and they tap it. You can put Kool-Aid in there, mix it up and make juice. That's what we used to do. And then you freeze it.

You freeze some of the watermelons with the juice on it. Hydrating watermelon strips. I've never tried that. What I used to do back in the day, me and Adam, we would take – you take cuts of watermelon and you dehydrate it overnight in the fridge. You put paper towel on it. Then you bake it for like 45 minutes. Really? And it feels like a piece of fish.

So it's like a vegan recipe for making a filet that you then flavor. So you put like garlic, onion, and a little little teriyaki on it. And then we put it on a sandwich with cheese or something or vegan cheese or whatever. I hope my wife is listening to this because I want her to make that for me. You vegan? It's like a vegan meat replacement thing. Dude, it's amazing. I'm not

vegan, but I prefer vegan dishes. You mix it in with meat dishes every few days or whatever. You can eat the white part of the watermelon rind. It tastes like cucumber. Yeah, it does. And if you eat a little bit of the red and a little bit of the white, it's like a new food. Super good.

Totally different than all of them. Really? I wonder what the nutritional value is. Probably really good. I'll tell you. Let me tell you something. Talking about how everything's racist and how stupid it is, we had Alex Jones on the show, and he kept making this joke about Ishmael, I am a gorilla we made these t-shirts that say i'm a gorilla right now there

was some big snafu where they got misprinted and it looked really really awful i'm not going to get into that i'm going to get into this critique from the leftists who are like it was already bad enough that you made the racist shirt to begin with and i'm like yo what's racist about a shirt where it's a cartoon gorilla telling you he's a gorilla? Like, I don't understand how there's race in that. Because they think black people are gorillas. Dude, we're all descended from gorillas. I'm descended from gorillas.

We're all descended from gorillas. Ian, a shared ancestor. The point is... Shared ancestor. Gorillas and I have a shared ancestor. This was the craziest thing because we had... Who did we have when we were talking about this? Was it... I forget his name. Michael Mouse? Apparently. No, no, no, no, no. the craziest thing because we had uh um who do we have when we're talking about this was it uh um

i forget his name oh apparently no no no no um did you hear gorillas live in a constant state of flatulence because they eat so much vegetables yeah apparently well anyway what happens is like when we made this we thought it was a funny thing like you know mcgill the gorilla cartoon gorillas it's funny and it was a joke about you know alex jones and then these leftists are like i can't believe tim pool made a gorilla shirt and i'm like what that's crazy dude they're they're listen when it's the projection thing right they are racist they think black people are monkeys they think black people can't use computers like joe biden they think black people don't have identification so they pitch it out there and they get mad at other people and hold people

accountable to their own demons. Most people don't look at gorillas and think of black people. And actually, if you cut the hair down on a gorilla, they're white. I mean, yeah. I think of humans when I look at them, if anything. You think of humans? They look so human. I mean, I don't think of black people.

I mean, I think of an animal. Yeah, a critter. You know, an animal. You know, I don't think of people. If I had to think of another animal other than a gorilla, I'd think of a human. They look kind of humanoid. They do look kind of.

Listen, I don't believe in evolution from humans to, I mean, apes to humans or whatever. But I have to admit that they do look creepily similar to humans. We're all primates. They do. They look very similar. So when I think about God, I'm like, God, you really, I don't know if you were playing with us, but you really made monkeys look very similar to us. We're all primates. It's funny watching like Capuchin monkeys or like other small monkeys because they just look like little people, you know? Yeah. And I know some people that look like monkeys. And they're not just because they're black, but they actually look like – they look gorilla-like.

Harry. See, that was racist. See? But I said Harry. Black people are not Harry. It's a human race. All right. We'll do a couple more. Proby the Tank says, Tatum, if you want to get in touch with Donut, hit up his staff on Discord.

We can direct your messages to him. Yeah, I'll hit his staff up. I love my my my guys keep saying get with donut get with donut yeah we'd love to have mine as well man yeah you should have more you should have both of us on one day absolutely let's do it because donut was a police officer as well yeah yeah yeah he does really you know who he is yeah of course i love his stuff i i just i i thought it was funny that you were telling that story about how you're going to get donuts yeah when the when the guy was like arrest me and then you have donut operator it's like cops just ribbing at themselves in the stereotype of donuts. It's like, who don't like donuts, though?

Do I put a uniform on? I just hate donuts all of a sudden. It's like, no, I love ice cream. What's the donut thing? Is it because there's a little bit of sugar for energy, a little bit of carbs for energy? No, no. I think that people normally drink coffee and donuts in the morning. And generally, police officers would have donuts and coffee back in the day and i mean that's just my theory behind it um and that's that's they were

open exactly some of them are open early in the morning or late at night and uh you know i used to i used to drive through dunkin donuts in my patrol car and it was hilarious because people i saw them taking pictures of me and i'm like i don't care i'm gonna get this cinnamon roll and get me a coffee before i start saving the world yes we'll do we'll do one more super chat here it's the most important clarence w says if you don't like fried chicken you're wrong that's right you're racist actually it's actually it's actually different now it's not that if you if you associate fried chicken with black people you're racist no no no it's that if you reject the good old you know home cooking oh yeah fried chicken now you're now you're rejecting how dare you yeah exactly but fried

chicken is good i don't even think that's i don't know where maybe maybe black people started thinking that they do it the best because it's a southern thing right barbecue is a southern thing uh collard greens collard greens is a southern thing you know i i think that my grandmother cooks the best now you know but i think people in the South think all kind of stuff. You know, gumbo and all this stuff. That's a Southern thing. Recently, we made cinnamon toast crunch shrimp. But then we made Captain Crunch.

Cinnamon toast crunch shrimp? Yeah, because there was this big story in the New York Times about a guy who got shrimp tails in his box of cinnamon toast crunch. Oh, really? That sounds tasty. And then somebody used it as a breading for fried shrimp. And he made a habanero pineapple reduction sauce. And I saw that. I was like, no, no, no, no, dude.

Cinnamon toast crunch shrimp calls for a ginger sauce, a ginger garlic sauce. And so we made that. It was really good. And then I was like, we've got to make a Captain Crunch chicken. Apparently that's a real thing, though. People do that. You take Captain Crunch and you blend it up into powder. You smash it. And then you use it as the breading for fried chicken. You take Captain Crunch and you blend it up into powder. You smash it.

And then you use it as the breading for fried chicken. It kind of sounds like a peanut butter sauce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Captain Crunch. But then we made honey nut Cheerio chicken with barbecue sauce. And that was the best. Dude. Because it's basically just like a honey barbecue.

I don't know if you guys are geniuses or you got too much time on your hands. Maybe a little bit of both. Not too much time on our hands. Chemists. Did you get it right the first time or no? So when we did the shrimp, we actually burned the first batch because the oil was too hot. Yeah. But the second batch we put in was perfect.

Wow. And then when we did the Captain Crunch chicken and the Honey Nut Cheerio chicken, perfect. I got to tell you, man, it was so good. Y'all should have. Why you didn't make none before I got here? I know, right? That'd be good. Yeah.

Why? We made Sloppy Joes, man. I got Sloppy Joes. Those are good, by the way. Yeah, from scratch. What the heck? I covered them, so they should still be good. Yeah, you should definitely try one.

It's amazing. All right, here's what we're going to do. Now we're thinking about food. It is not vegan. My friends, smash the like button, subscribe to Notification Bell, and go to TimCast.com, sign up, because we're going to have an exclusive members-only segment coming up just about an hour from now, and that will be on the website. So become a member, help support the work. And I'm going to tell you when you become a member,

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We'll see you then. Bye, guys.