Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #269 - Jury Finds Chauvin GUILTY On ALL COUNTS, Protests Underway w/Catalina Lauf

Episode Date: April 21, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join congressional candidate running against feckless RINO Adam Kintzinger Catalina Lauf to discuss the jury that found Derek Chauvin guilty on all counts, and why, the democrat refusal to censure Maxine Waters, Ted Cruz' opinion of Joe Biden's comments on the Chauvin case, and critical race theory as it relates to personal pronouns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Derek Chauvin found guilty on every single count, or at least all the murder charges. When they announced the verdict was coming in, turn the TV on. I sat down and we all sat in suspense waiting for them to make the announcement. And the judge came in and he read the verdict on the count of murder in the second degree, guilty, murder in the third degree, guilty, and manslaughter in second degree, guilty. And I think a lot of people expected this because the verdict came back so soon. As soon as this verdict came out, we saw people in the streets, you know, cheering, celebrating and crying. Now they're marching already. I don't know if there's going

to be riots. I think there likely still will be riots because all of the people are outside. That's all that really matters. A lot of people don't care about whether there's a verdict or not. And some of these organizations and activists are saying it's not justice. Obama said it's not justice. AOC said it's not justice. True justice would be if Floyd was still alive and the whole system has to be reformed. So these people are out marching. I think it's possible that eventually the police say you need to stop and go home. They say F you, they throw a brick, boom, more riots. It's going to be particularly interesting to see how the public reacts when they realize that nothing will satiate the violence. We got a lot about this to

talk about. There's a lot of stories. Maxine Water was defended by Democrats over her threat, threats against the jury and incitement to insurrection. And we're gonna have to break this down. And man, it's gonna get brutal. But we have a great guest today. We have former Trump staffer and current, well, I guess you're running for Congress in Illinois 16th, Catalina Love. Yeah. Introduce yourself real quick. Yes. Thanks so much for having me. you're running for Congress in Illinois' 16th. Catalina Lauf, want to introduce yourself real quick? Yes. Thanks so much for having me. I'm running for Congress in Illinois' 16th district, former appointee to the Department of Commerce, and Midwestern girl.

You are running against the infamous Adam Kinzinger. Yes. He was one of the 10 who voted to impeach President Trump and is just all around a weak need, backstabbing. There's still some time until the primary, right? Yes. Yeah. So it'll be next year.

We're running in 2022. And it's been acting lately, but certainly some of these kind of traitors on the Republican Party side. So we're really excited, and we've had a ton of energy and support, and we can't wait. Right on. We'll talk all about it. We've got Ian. He's chilling.

Yo, what up, dudes? Ian Cross on Novochia. Ian was pissed. I was like, Ian, stop swearing. I was out of my mind. Tim earlier was like, well, they already came to a verdict, and I was like, Ian, stop swearing. I was out of my mind. Tim earlier was like, well, they already came to a verdict. And I was like, well, I guess he's innocent then. I guess they found him innocent.

That was my only... Because it was so fast. It was so fast. But I guess getting him guilty on all equally is possible. It's just shocking. It's like clown world. I would have been if it was... We'll save it.

We'll save it. Because we're going to go off. We got Lydia. She's pressing the buttons. I'm also here. I'm so excited to have Catalina. She's just like freaking inspiring. She's about my age

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hit the notification bell and leave us a good review. If you're listening on iTunes or Spotify enough, it is time to talk news. I wanted to save the, the, keep the intro to a, to a minimum because we are about to go off on this jury finds Derek Chauvin guilty of murder. No swearing, no swearing. I couldn't believe it. No, I could believe it. I absolutely could believe it. The jury was threatened. Maxine Waters threatened the jury. The rioters threatened the jury. And there are left wing journalists right now saying the only reason we got this verdict is because we spent months out in the streets. And I'm like, they're even admitting it. It was the threat of violence and destruction that resulted in the jury saying Derek Chauvin

should go to prison on second degree murder. Now I will, I want to be fair. They're getting on the felony murder rule, arguing that it was assault against George Floyd. And because it was felony assault and George Floyd died, therefore it's murder. Okay. I think there's maybe an argument of, of assault, but this is what really makes me think this is nuts. We watched the video in great detail. The defense showed the video. George Floyd was resisting

arrest. A bystander even said, you can't win, man. Just get in the car. No joke. The prosecution and the defense show that in closing arguments, a guy yelling to Floyd to stop resisting some random bystander. So I'm sitting here like, why is the prosecution showing George Floyd actively resisting and bystander saying, stop resisting. So you mean to tell me that a cop is trying to arrest somebody for a counterfeit for potential under the, under the influence and now a resisting arrest. And it's assault. If the guy says, hold me on the ground, hold me on the ground, hold me on the ground like George Floyd did. And then Chauvin holds them on the ground and they say, that's felony assault. Oh, and he died, murder. Now he's going to go to prison. So I'll tell you this. I'm not a big fan. I'm not interested in defending the

state or police institutions as a whole. My interest is in the individual Derek Chauvin and his rights. And I'm not happy about what happened to George Floyd, but I will tell you, if you've got a problem with the state and the system and the policing, take it up with the state, the system, and the policing. But now, you know what happened? The state literally won. It was the state of Minnesota versus Derek Chauvin. And the state won their case. Why? Because leftists, extremists, activists went out, burned down their city. Leftist journalists are the ones saying this. They're being on the ground and engaging these activities resulted in this verdict.

Maxine Waters making these threats. And so the jury sided with the state. Chauvin's one man. You got a problem with the actions of an individual officer that crossed the line? By all means, hold them accountable. But Chauvin is acting as per the rules of the police department. Arrest somebody if they commit a crime. If they resist arrest, here's the force you can use.

I don't see how throwing one man under the bus is going to solve any of these problems. And I still think we're going to see riots so nothing gets solved in the long run other than a bunch of weak and terrified jurors who just say, guilty because I'd rather not have my house burned down. I think I agree with Obama that it was not justice uh and uh alexandria cortez yeah but wasn't justice obama but right you're taking it the other direction yeah i am taking it the other direction barack because it wasn't barack obama said true justice is about much more than a single verdict aoc said this is not justice because they need to keep the grift going. They need to always be angry. Well, think about everything that led up to all this.

I mean, even when you look at the riots and all this, when you have people that are not firm on people going to jail. I mean, we saw massive amounts of damage, millions of dollars. This was obviously incredibly politicized. And then to your point about Maxine Waters, when you have all these kind of like tectonic plates almost building up this pressure and then ultimately have, you know, the media on talking about this and being in favor of the way it should go, quote, quote unquote. And then you have politicians speaking out. And then on top of that, all of this civil unrest, that's kind of really creating this,

this pressure. It really is concerning on who is choosing, you know, is this going to happen a lot? I mean, when does it, when does the, the riot the rioting and everything that led up to this, when does it end? You know, the one, they say, you know, what, God closes the door, he opens the window. The one thing I can see is I think the Second Amendment is about to get a whole lot stronger.

If these people are going to go on riot, I really don't see why they would not. Because you have the Daunte Wright incident as well. So they're not going to be satisfied with just this. I think it would have been way worse, but now I can only imagine more liberals are going to be like, need to buy a gun. So I guess there's that at least. And to your point, I tweeted this, or I should say I tweeted this and it works to your point. I said, let this be a lesson to all police. You will be charged. You will be imprisoned. When I saw that story about Kim Potter is her name, I think the cop and the Dante Wright thing. I'm like, why is she, why is anyone surprised this is happening to her? I think if

you're a cop watching this happen to Chauvin and these other officers and you choose to stay there, hey man, it's free country. You do what you want to do, but there's only so much I can do to, to defend you when you know what the mob wants. You know the politicians are going to give it to them. And you know there will not be a fair trial. You expect to get passed through this? I don't think so. Well, and we're seeing so much of a – I mean, all campaigning, I talk with a lot of law enforcement.

We're in such a back-the-blue type of area where you have so many people either retiring from the police force and law enforcement. They have shortages now. People don't even want to join the force. And I think eventually, I mean, these things need to be done in an honest way. And that's just not happening right now. It's perfectly in line with what the left wanted.

Right. Defund the police. Abolish the police. And if that doesn't work, drive the police out with threats and intimidation and terror. The court of public opinion is making me nervous. It's really powerful. I knew it was powerful in 2006 when I saw YouTube videos and that you could get 50,000 people to call somebody at the same time on the same day. And then the next day do it again.

Or order pizzas. Yeah. And it causes serious problems. Take all your money out of the bank at the same time on the same day. Just crash a bank on any given day. Any YouTuber could do that. And I know these are mutual exclusive, but also why was it encouraged? I mean, you had encouragement on the BLM and the riots and the protesting

from all these different angles as well. And I know it's a little different from the actual verdict today, but these things are being encouraged. And that is a big problem. At what point are your elected officials going to stand up and say, no? It's not going to happen until regular people say something and they won't because they're scared so you know we we you know i got an argument about this the other day where i was like if the people of minneapolis the twin cities of minnesota will not personally stand up and say i support the police and this is wrong then the police have no support now you can whisper it to your friends ain't enough these people don't want to put blue lives matter flags up. They want to put American

flags up because they know they get targeted. Okay. Then the squeaky wheel gets the grease. The reason why it's being encouraged major corporations. No, there is no opposition. If they come out and they were Ben and Jerry's Ben and Jerry ice cream company yelling at me about racist cops. Like, I don't care, dude. You guys make cookie ice cream. I don't need to hear from you about the police department. It's fine, I guess. I don't care. Market how you want to market.

I just think it's absurd that someone's like, I'm going to start an ice cream company, and my marketing pitch is you're a racist and evil. Buy my ice cream. But the reason they do that is because there is zero opposition. So what's the downside? If they come out and they say, go riot and go in the streets, no conservative will do anything. They might complain about it. I mean, we did have the conservatives burning all their Nike gear when Colin Kaepernick took a knee, but for the most part, they don't. So conservatives are staying home, minding their own business,

not organizing. And the major corporations, the big tech companies and the politicians know their only threat is from the left. So they give the left whatever they want. Normally, if you were to tell people to go riot, is a crime i mean i don't know rioting is a crime well the word riot that that's not necessarily a crime right you have to massage the truth again say get more confrontational yes walk faster when people are burning down buildings tell them to do more be more active like it's supposed to be illegal to incite violence but to have maxine waters telling people if we don't get a murder one charge which he wasn't even charged with or a conviction for murder one which he wasn't charged with that we should what she what was her quote do you guys know offhand that we should push harder that we should get we

should get more active and get more confrontational get more confrontational she's talking to rioters it's and they're still out there right now. So right now, they're marching around. I don't know exactly if it'll escalate or what the deal is. I got to tell you, man,

I kind of, I wasn't really expecting a verdict this fast. My video today was like, oh, they're preparing. Who knows when the verdict will be? It might be over at TimCast.com. And then I get a text and it's like the verdict is coming in an hour and I was like, oh, they're preparing. Who knows when the verdict will be? Over at TimCast.com. And then I get a text and it's like, the verdict is coming in

an hour. And I'm like, what? It's been a day. It's not even, I think it was 10 hours of deliberations. Yeah, it was so short. So when I heard that it was that fast, I was like, it's either going to be guilty on all counts or not guilty on all counts. It is too soon for a hung jury. There's no way the jurors went in and they were like, half of us are for

guilty and half are for not guilty and we'll never change our minds. Okay, let's go home, hung jury. Too soon. So I was kind of like, maybe it'll be not guilty because they're bringing in the National Guard in downtown Minneapolis right now. Why would they be moving the National Guard in? I'm like, so it must be not guilty. Then I heard guilty and I'm like, they knew the verdict was guilty and they're still bringing in the National Guard? You know, Ben Shapiro tweeted something amid all this. He said the fact that, I'll paraphrase, the fact that we all knew that our cities would burn based on the outcome of this trial is an indictment of our country or society or something to that effect. It's absolutely true. of where we are now what but it even goes into

what happened recently with you know georgia and just kind of all these policy measures that people are are choosing sides and corporations are choosing sides and people are being kind of pressured again where you're seeing this on every type of and politics is infiltrating kind of every aspect of our lives now and and i don't think it's ever been that way. And it shouldn't be that way. But did you see what happened with Coke? Didn't Coca-Cola come out and actually say, like, Georgia's new voter law is racist? And then conservatives were like, yeah, we're going to buy Pepsi.

And they went, wait, wait. We must find common ground. See, that's the thing. So the Republican Party has much less people than the Democratic Party. It's shifted quite a bit in the last election. It started to invert. Democrats are joining the Republicans. Republicans are doing great recruitment. But you mostly have moderates in independence that sometimes lean right. That's how Republicans end up winning. These people don't do anything. They don't speak up. They don't say anything. They keep shopping.

Coca-Cola could, you know, could. Pepsi literally made a commercial where their protesters going around handing out Pepsis. And they see no repercussions for this. I mean, actually, the woke left got mad at him about that. So they had to, like, apologize for having. What was it? Kendall. Kendall Jenner.

Kendall. That was. Oh, yeah. No. Kylie. I don't know. I don't know any of these people. Handing out Pepsis.

It's this simple. Conservatives aren't organized. Moderates don't know any of these people. I never watched that. Handing out Pepsis. It's this simple. Conservatives aren't organized. Moderates don't organize. Disaffected liberal types. Actually, there's a decent amount of disaffected liberals who are speaking up. But by nature, as a disaffected liberal, they're complaining about something. So long as this group is just like loose-knit and passively in agreement, but not actively going out, talking about things, standing outside then there's no downside it's it's it's the it's uh uh do you guys know

what pascal's wager is negative you you do yeah you do all right so it's basically this dude was like if i believe in god and i die and it's none of it was real or true, then what does it matter? But if I believe in God and I die and it is true, I get to go to heaven. He says, now, if I don't believe in God and it's not true, it doesn't matter. And if I don't believe in God and it is true, well, then I go to hell. So your safest bet is to believe in God or be religious. It's not necessarily a fantastic argument, but I bring this up because we have what I call, I'll call it the critical theorists wager or the social justice wager. If you are on the right and, you know, you stand up for your rights,

you will likely be canceled or banned. If you are on the right and you do nothing, nothing happens. You end up losing. The left ends up gaining ground. If you're on the right and you do nothing, nothing happens. You end up losing. The left ends up gaining ground. If you're on the left and you don't stand up for what you believe in, the left still charges through, gets whatever they want. And if you're on the left and you stand up and scream, you will likely get whatever you want. You're celebrated. Right. So this wager is very obvious. If you want to run a business right now in this environment, your best bet is just to feign leftism because there's no negative repercussions. And that's awful because you look at and you make a really good point because commerce and business and services and products, these were things that were supposed to unite us as Americans or unite us as people.

When you're going to Ben and Jerry's, well, nowadays, now you are asking, well, what were you talking about in politics? But before you're like, I just want my double chocolate chip ice cream. You could sit down at a Ben and Jerry's and look over to a random stranger and be like, which one'd you get? Now it's like, who'd you vote for? To the cashier even. I mean, that's what it turns into. Oh, I'm researching every single company that has spoken out and what are their stances now? And it's awful. And it's bad because as somebody who works in business create a product, and you're trying to solve an issue, and there's a demand for it. Simple as that. It's supposed to unite us. So you've made the point that politics has gotten into everything,

and this is something that troubles me as well. This is not the way it's supposed to be. And the fact that we have to do things like ask, who did you vote for? That creates suspicion. It weakens our society from the bottom up i hate to see it i i look at what happened with with chauvin and the one thing i i think the perspective of the left is that like all cops all the time are abusing their power and they don't understand like why arrests happen and they keep saying things like

if if derrick chauvin didn't put his knee on George Floyd's neck then Floyd would be alive today the prosecution actually this is actually debunked very early on two things the eight was it eight minutes 46 seconds was debunked it's actually longer it was nine minutes and 29 seconds I think it was but the other thing that was debunked was that the knee was on Floyd's neck the whole time it wasn't't in the video. You can actually see some, in some periods, the knee moved off the neck, but the left, uh, I mean, they, they, they want to believe in these, uh, tribalist. I don't, I don't, I don't, I honestly don't know why they don't, they don't investigate. They don't read the stuff. They just assume whatever the media says is true. I see impaired on social media. And then what you get is blind rage and support of the tribe.

You know, the leftist tribe, no matter what I was talking to a friend of mine and she said, impaired on social media and then what you get is blind rage in support of the tribe you know the leftist tribe no matter what i was talking to a friend of mine and she said uh you know i i don't even want to talk about what we were talking about but she was like i'm just gonna accept it at face value and i was like yeah you're just gonna believe the first thing they tell you the government and she's like i just don't have the energy to investigate. And that was it. I'll put it this way. They say that George Floyd would still be alive if Chauvin had put his knee on his back. George Floyd would still be alive if he didn't resist arrest.

Or do drugs. Maybe. Yeah, or take a bunch of fentanyl, maybe. Maybe he would have killed a kid and got behind the wheel of a car and drove into some family walking across the street. Yeah. He was doing drugs in the car. And the defense made an interesting point that we don't know how much fentanyl he took. The norfentanyl in his system was the metabolite of the fentanyl he had already taken.

So that means he had taken some, like, a long time before this incident occurred. So, look, I'm not happy about what happened. I don't like the idea that a cop is trying to arrest somebody and they die. The cops shouldn't be killing people, and there should be a level of scrutiny. The issue, I suppose, is this will not reform the police department. It won't. I guess what the left is going for is if you can't beat them, burn them to the ground. If they can't get the police department abolished,

then they're going to try and force every cop out. And right now, I got to say, the smartest position for the police is probably just to leave. What is this? Are they like, okay, this is high conspiracy, but is this like a corporate takeover? Like, do they want private police? The squad? You see that breaking story? You see that?

The squad members buying all the private security? Oh, of course. Yeah. This is like turning into a third world country. You know, my family, my mom came from Guatemala and they have the private police force now overtakes the public police force because you don't really know, you know, whose side the cops are on. It's not meaning to laugh, but it's just you get to this point where it's you're seeing elements of that here in the greatest country in the world. And this is what separates us from these third world countries.

I'd be willing to bet a bunch of our libertarian and anarchist friends who've been on the show are going to be cheering for the idea that the police will crumble from this because they genuinely believe private policing is better. I'm not one of those people. I'm fairly libertarian, little L, not big L, leaning slightly to the left. And I think the reason the police department works is that they're neutral arbiters. They're not perfect. The individuals can be racists.

The individuals can be bigoted. We want to deal with that. We don't want those things. Lawsuits exist as well. And there's a challenge with poverty. When somebody who's poor gets pulled over and they can't afford to pay a ticket, then they go to jail. It creates a cycle. It's very, it's problematic. But when you have two people fighting and a cop walks up, he's not there to be on anyone's side. He's like, this is what the law is. This is what you did. Go away or you're

under arrest. Right. Well, in AOC and the squad, they all talk about equality and no classism and all this. Well, that's exactly what they're trying to do when you talk about private police forces. Who is able to afford a private police force? Obviously, people who are wealthy and have money. But then yet your policies and what you talk about all the time is about equality and no classes. And I mean, it's complete hypocrisy to a T. This is what will happen.

They will defund the police. They will use the Chauvin case as an example, and they're going to march, and they're going to say, see? And then once the police are defunded, the rich people who don't care are going to hire G4S or Securitas or something, and they're going to have a couple guys in suits with glasses outside their house, and they're not going to worry about anything. We talked about this last year during the riots. You know private security would actually punch a cop on your behalf? If you get a legit private security company, these guys are getting paid low to mid-six figures, depending on who the client is. These guys, they're wearing suits.

They've got sunglasses, earpieces, legit security for high-profile individuals. If a cop tried arresting, these security guards would shove a cop to the ground. They would absolutely assault an officer because they don't respect some guy getting $30K a year in New York City or $40K. When they're getting $400K and they're working for a prince or a celebrity, they're like, nah, this guy's got billions of dollars. He'll bail me out. I don't got to worry about it. My company will take care of me. So when the police are defunded and they don't respond to the calls of the poor people anymore who suffers, well,

it's going to be the black community. It's going to be Latino community. It's going to be the poor community in general. And the rich people are going to be sitting there in their infinity pools, not caring. Well, they just found that something I want to say something like 80 percent of people who are surveyed, these black people in these communities want more police presence. They don't want the police to go away. Well, it's the same thing with the Hispanic community. When you look at voter demographics, I mean, I come from 40 miles outside of the city of Chicago where you're seeing very high crime rates all the time. Nobody's talking about that crime.

Hush, hush. Right. They talk about these kind of instances that happen every once in a while. But the same thing happened in the Hispanic community, which is why a lot of people started voting more conservative, because they come from countries where there is no law and order. They're leaving these places where they don't trust their law enforcement. We, again, have that public trust and and they, you know, people are chipping away at that. I love, I love the idea of socialists and leftists condemning the state right now, when the state literally won its case, the state versus Derek Chauvin, the state is the winner.

They're complaining about us. I see these tweets. They're like, it was an agent of the state who was who committed a murder. And it's good to see they should not be allowed to do that and i'm like it's the state who also won from the guy to the bus also if you're a socialist and you want socialized everything yeah then shouldn't you be happy with a socialized law enforcement system well apparently not the the great part of it is local cops like i was in chile for a while and it's national cops only in that country. So if you have a problem, a dog is barking or bites someone on the corner, you've got feds there with brown

uniforms on, ready to take you to federal prison. It's federal all the way down. And it's terrifying that if you jaywalk or commit some minor crime, the feds are on you down there. And that's like how it is in most of the world, I think. I'm not much of a legal expert.

No, you're absolutely right. In places like Central America, you have armed military police, M-16s on the street corner and in parks. I mean, that's normal to those people. That's one thing that a lot of people are saying. And they're still crime. Yeah. There are people tweeting like, it took us too long to get this verdict. 330 days or something like that.

I don't think it was 330 days. It was, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it 330 days? Yeah. That's what they were saying. And my attitude is like, you mean you got it done that fast? In many countries, there's no trial. Like, dude, go to some of these countries.

You think South America, a cop who's working for the state, is going to face punishment for anything? No, their bribery is rampant down there, too. Yeah, these guys can literally walk into poor neighborhoods and shoot someone in the face, and they're not going to get in trouble. In the United States, they burn the country down and get away with it. Well, and it comes down to we are a country of law and order, and this is lawlessness. When you're seeing all these riots, when you're, and on top of that, even the verdict today, these issues are complex, obviously, right? There's no, back to your point about clickbait and people who just don't want to dive deeper or see each other as humans or talk about these things in a substantive way. It comes down to we need to enforce the law. And there's a real precedent that's being set now,

just again, with all the political tensions leading up to this, of what is kind of where we're going to be moving forward. And do we want to be this country where it burns to the ground? Do we want to be a country where the the people have questions about a verdict because of the political unrest leading leading up to this and even during right you had the media maxine waters again uh there are some real questions here that are setting kind of the tone for the next uh years to come and and what is our country going to look like 50 years from now here's what i find kind of funny. So you're running for Congress. Yeah.

And can I ask you how old you are or are you too old? I'm turning 28 in a month, May 5th. Happy birthday. Yes. Thank you. Cinco de Mayo. Yes. Little firecracker day.

So here's what I find. Not as cool as 4th or July. I find this kind of funny though. So like you're, would you consider yourself to be pro police to pro police? Yeah. Well, yeah. Pro law enforcement. Absolutely.

And pro law and order as a more of a principle behind that. But so you would support local police departments. Absolutely. I just find it funny that the squad there's this story from four hours ago about them hiring private security while talking about defunding the police right and it's it's a republican candidate who's like support our public law enforcement system yeah like i i'm not i just think i don't know how much you've got so much evidence of hypocrisy among aoc and the squad that you just i at a certain point won't someone

on the won't these leftists who support them, won't their heads explode from the cognitive dissonance? Well, yeah, well, because they're the elites now. And I will tell you, too, you know, I've done ride alongs with our local law enforcement. I did one here in D.C. a while ago, and I visited the county jails like I'm telling you, you're you're face to face, not face to face, obviously of glass screen, but with like murderers and ICE detainees who have possible terrorist ties. Like these are criminals.

And then you look at, you know, in D.C. I saw, you know, three people die that night. It was a Saturday night. And just what you think about the everyday job of a law enforcement officer is something that, and what I think about too, when you're talking about the hypocrisy, the left is all about empathy and feeling and all that. We are not even understanding what the average cop has to go through every day, especially in big cities. I mean, I live in a sleepier town, but crime rates are going up in the suburbs. Crime rates are going up in traditionally small neighborhoods. It is a real issue, and we're

not looking at them as humans. Have you seen that letter that's gone viral? They say supposedly it's from a former police officer. They say that these people on the left expect a cop to be a medical expert, to be a doctor, to know all the signs of a seizure, of asphyxiation. They expect them to be a psychologist, to know how to deal with a mentally ill person who's on a rampage. They expect them to be able to do all of these jobs, to use just enough force, to be a Brazilian jiu-jitsu expert that can take down a 6'1", pound guy when you're five foot nine 140 pounds that's that's derek chauvin they expect you to have all of the power and capabilities and the knowledge of all of these different fields when you were literally a dude or a lady who was set who was told if someone breaks the law and they you know arrest them they're not doctors chauvin

was not a doctor how was he supposed to know any of this stuff it's crazy crazy to me because you mentioned going on the ride-alongs with these law enforcement. I did a night crawling in Chicago. Oh, my gosh. Which you understand what that is, right? Yeah, yeah. So for those that don't know what night crawling is, it's like you go out in the middle of the night. You track the police scanner and you look for local stories. Typically, it's like crime and things like that.

In one night, I think I saw, what, like five murders, five crime scenes in Chicago. In one night, it was like, take your, like five murders, five crime scenes in Chicago. In one night. It was like, take your pick. What do you want to do? Sit in the car. And you'll be like, oh, there's a murder. No, let's not go to that one because, you know, that one's 15 minutes away. Another murder.

That one's five minutes away. And we pull up. And each and every time I see these cops, people don't get it, man. It's dark out. There are people gathering on the streets. You don't know who they are or what they're doing. You're called to a house that was riddled with bullets. We went to one house. This was kind of scary because I'm from Chicago. I know these neighborhoods. And we roll up and we

see a couple squad cars. The cops walk up to a house, bullet holes all throughout the front of the building, two people dead. And there's like 30 people on each side of the block. And I'm like, now this cop here with one other guy who arrived on scene knows there's active shooting, possibly dead people, and now there's like 30 people gathering and he doesn't know which one of them

may be the murderer. And you think that guy is supposed to go in there with the full capabilities of martial arts, marksmanship, medical expertise, and psychological expertise

to deal with a situation like that? It's insane to me the level of, I should say, the lack of empathy for how awful that job can really be. And then when you exacerbate it on a public stage, you have people spitting at cops now. You have that culture just completely changing the dynamics of law enforcement as a whole. I mean, I get families all the time of, you know, wives of police officers or even my police officer friends where they're like, I didn't do anything wrong and yet people spit in my face because of all this politicization and this being on such a mass scale.

And that's really sad, too. You see it a lot in military as well. Yeah. And we're not seeing people, again, there's no empathy and no human perspective. They assume because, you know what? I'll rephrase what I was going to say. How many viral videos have you seen of police brutality? A lot?

40 in my life. 40, 50. In recent history. I don't look for them. Not many lately. I'd say I've seen a lot. Yeah, and they're increasing every year. Yeah.

Since 2012, I've seen them all. A ton. A bunch. Now, here's the issue. You've got 330 million people in this country, 220 million adults or whatever. There's going to be more police interactions. More police interactions means you will have accidental deaths. You will have negligent actions. You have overt criminal acts from some officers.

But we're talking about what is like 100 million police interactions per year and like 20 unarmed guys getting shot in 2019. People don't seem to take into consideration that they may see all these videos. They'll see all these news stories. You know what there's never a news story about? Local officer helps old lady cross street. Local officer pulls an 18-year-old kid for speeding, gives him a warning and and the kid the kid change turns things around stop speeding so you know you've seen some videos where it's like a cop plays basketball with the local kids yeah it's heartwarming i've seen a few of those but what you what we don't see is the everyday day-to-day of what the cop does from

the perspective of extremely violent crimes yeah and routine law enforcement where's the viral story in the viral video where a cop pulls someone over, walks up and says, ma'am, you were speeding. You were going eight over in a 40. Please don't do it again. Have a nice day. That happens all the time. But no one cares about the monotony.

It's kind of like how we take... I'm sorry to interrupt you there. No, that's basically my idea. It's kind of like how we take our physical health for granted. Not everybody. Yeah, it was rude of me, I know. But I stepped on glass earlier. I had to dig it out of my foot.

I spent time thinking like, I don't think about when I'm healthy. I don't think every moment like, I am so healthy. This is so great. But as soon as it hurts, it is the biggest deal in the world to me. Bro, it's like when you got a stuffed nose and you think about

what was it like when my nose wasn't stuffed? Do you ever really think about it? Yeah. Yeah. Like most of the time. And that's what's happening with these brutality issues. As soon as one happens, it's like an injury that everyone is focused on. And when one instance gets a hundred million views, that's like, it's like, it's like it

happened a hundred million times. Right. Especially with all of the political agenda pushing as well. And it's the same thing with guns. I mean, you look at the mass shootings, for example, it's the same thing. I think there's always kind of this, there's always a narrative behind it. And that's concerning because then again, to what extent is public opinion determining things, not actually the law? You mentioned law and order earlier.

I like that phrase because I think a lot of times people focus on is the law being followed. But also is order being adjudicated? Is it orderly? Because a bad law is out of order. So I think people are out of touch with law. We can't even offer up a law to Congress as people. We have to rely on this, like, 600 people. No, no, bro, bro.

It's so far beyond that. Let me pull up this next story, which hits exactly at your point. Oh, yeah. Democrats block resolution censuring Maxine Waters for Chauvin trial comments. Keeping things in line with the discussion at hand, but basically what you were saying, Ian, is that even when we have Maxine Waters incite insurrection, telling people to do more than they already are when mass riots are underway, the Republicans can't even wag their finger at her. A censure is a finger wag.

So we're at a point now where we have ridiculous, nonsensical laws that don't like the war on drugs, for instance, is insane. We struggle to get anything done in terms of repealing most of these laws. It doesn't really happen or decriminalizing things. And then you have when a politician on the Democrat side, it tends to be, you know, the rule for the left, they get away with all this stuff. You can't even get Republicans to do anything or be able to do anything about this. And that's, you know, kind of leads into why I'm running too, because we don't have people with backbones. I mean, you're getting to a point

where we saw the president of the United States being impeached for a second time for, let's say, he said the words that he said, peaceful, go peacefully, cheer on politicians. And then you have even Republicans, you know, one of them that I'm unseating here, Adam Kinzinger, going and voting for impeachment or stripping Marjorie Taylor Greene, for example, a congresswoman outside

of Georgia, for stripping her of committee. When people have that much power or you have one side with that much power that is actually determining people's lives and the way that our country is going, that's a huge problem because you do not have two opinions that are being taken into account. And to your point, you're spot on where we don't even have Republicans standing firm

on half this stuff. This is why I said, you know, I've been saying for some time, I don't think I'd vote Republican in 2022. Depends. Well, if you were in my district, you would. I would. You're right. I would. Because you're younger, energetic, and you seem principled.

I'd have to go through all your policies, though, to be fair. But, no, I look at Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham. I look at Kevin McCarthy. The best Kevin McCarthy could offer up is a wag the finger at Maxine Waters, censure, spare me. Marjorie Taylor Greene introduced a bill to expel Maxine Waters. Now, of course, that's not going to happen. For all the criticism people can levy or throw at Marjorie Taylor Greene, by all means, at least she's doing something. Right. Maxine Waters flew from California into a riot and said, get more confrontational if we don't get a first degree murder conviction.

That is insane. Even CNN's Chris Saliza criticized Maxine Waters for doing this. And what happens? The best Republicans can do is, I would like to introduce a bill to censure Maxine Waters. Democrats denied. Moving on. We didn't get a first degreedegree murder conviction, by the way, so if they do get more confrontational, she's on the hook for that.

Yeah, well, nothing's going to happen. I'm so angry at the two-party system. You sound like you were about to say something. What were you going to say? No, go ahead. It's like a stranglehold. George Washington warns overtly about the danger of two-party politics, that one gets a little bit of a majority and then takes complete control of our government.

But I want to see like six or seven small groups so that if four of these groups decide, no, we are going to censure. You can't stop me from censuring this congresswoman that called for violence. But our founders also, I feel like they didn't want to see a multiple party system because they saw that in Europe as well. And the detriment to that is that you have too many factions now and people as humans gravitate, I think, towards like one or another. But to your point, the best part, I think the biggest silver lining about all this and just from a political perspective also and being a candidate is that you're seeing so many people now everyday Americans stepping up because they're so frustrated with the way things are going and they're like you know what I want to run because I want to take I want to unseat these people I don't think they're doing their job and we are we the people are holding people accountable now when politics gets into everybody's personal lives,

they are finally caring. And this is the way I think our experiment is supposed to go. We're, we're take, you're seeing this, uh, this movement happening, this disruption, and it's really challenging right now, but we're also seeing uncovered and we're taking back the power. And, and I think that's think it's really positive in that way. And unfortunately, three parties wouldn't work. You can't, and I don't mean unfortunately, I'm running absolutely as a conservative, but now you're even seeing different factions of conservatism.

For example, Adam Kinzinger, he is a Democrat. Why is he a Republican? He's not a conservative. We need to take back our party. And the way that our party is moving is this America first, law and order, free market, enterprise system. Just everybody thriving from an economic perspective. And that's where our country is going. That's where the Republican Party is going.

But we need to take that back. It's one thing to be anti-Trump. Because I understand that people don't a lot of people didn't like the guy it's another thing to be what can you know kinzinger and he's so for those unfamiliar he's just republican in illinois who just basically sides with democrats all the time yeah did he get like a memo where it's like your district just became D plus eight. So now you better be a Democrat if you want to win. I think he got a lot of opportunities to be on MSNBC and CNN and loved watching himself on TV. You know, you don't nobody. His constituency has not seen him at all.

He's been not even a conservative since, you know, in 2014 even. And that was even before Trump and all of that. I mean, he's made a career now out of being a politician and one that particularly bashes Trump. The liberal media loves that because he goes on and, hey, look, we have a Republican that doesn't like Trumpism. He's our token Republican. And that's just not, you look at people on the ground and they're like, what is this guy doing?

This is not. No, that's not leadership by any means. You are. He's driven by his own ego and his own career. I completely agree. Yeah. I think this technology has given has given opportunity for corporate fascism to thrive. And like it's also given opportunity for young people to get involved in politics in a way,, which is cool. Because if we do take control of our government, I think that's a positive outcome for this experiment.

But if we don't, the corporations will with their advertisement and their brainwashing and their poison. Well, that's what's happening. Corporate America is as woke as they get and so they are we talked about the other day like the punk rock bands literally on the side side of amazon and and walmart if you i'm sorry i just gotta say this bad religion i was such a big fan of bad religion you're on walmart's side so i don't know what that means what's their song bad i don't know they did they did a song that was supposedly anti-alt-right but it was actually very pro-alt-right and it was the weirdest thing ever and they got criticized by some leftists

because they were like was this song criticizing white nationalism or supporting it we can't tell i don't know yeah yeah it's just it's it's weird times man it's the realignment i guess it is but you know there's disruption in every in every uh and every part of, I think, life, too. And you're seeing that now, I think, in the political space, especially. And I think it's a good thing. You know, again, I've never seen more like people. All you know, a lot of my friends who are running now, these are true servant leaders. Like these are people who want who have left their everyday lives, their jobs in the private sector, left the military, or even left their families. And they're like, you know what?

I'm sick of the way things are going. And I want to take back the power for the people and be a good representative. And you're seeing that happening all across the country now. And I think that's the positive side of all this stuff. In 2007, I was making YouTube videos and I got this really like strong feeling that we needed to globalize, that there was no stopping. It was just what's happening is the entire globe is coming together with the Internet. And we have to build a government that can sustain that. And it didn't happen. I didn't push it that hard. I kind of had a nervous breakdown instead

because everything was so psychotic for me at that time um so so but what's happening is it's happening anyway but we don't have a government to stop it or to take control of it so the chinese corporations are like driving people insane in the united states they're you know all this global collusion that is just on let me let me let me interject and try and see if I can wrap up a little bit of what you're saying because you're right. Basically, there's a famous quote. I think it's from – was it Nathaniel Rothschild or something? That globalization will happen whether anyone wants it to or not. And a lot of people took that like a threat, like he was saying.

We must have a global one-world government or something. I think what he was saying was that it's going to happen through trade unions and communications. The issue is we already do have one world currency. It's called Visa and MasterCard. Go to any country. You can swipe your card. It works. You can buy stuff. The swift payment system.

And we already have international agreements. It's not a legitimate one world system. However, we still have our borders, our rules, just like you have your own city with your own city's laws, the United States has its laws, and even though there may be international trade and things like that, and some people may believe it's inevitable,

we still have to maintain that when you're here, we have a constitution, we have rights. It's one of the most amazing things, and every day I look at what's going on around the world, and I'm just like, thanking the founding fathers. That being said, because we are not having the values of the Constitution be the superseding culture around the world, China is filling that gap. Now you have major corporations in the United States who they're deferential to China because they don't want to lose money.

Slavery. Absolutely. You have these billionaires who are like, hey, guys, don't criticize China taking over Hong Kong. Like, what are you doing? We don't want the NBA to sell shirts and say free Hong Kong. Why? Because people involved make millions of dollars from China. It's basically like it's really, really simple.

Chinese enterprise goes to wealthy and influential Americans and says, we can make you even more wealthy. And they say, deal. There it is. They were bought and paid for. The Emancipation Proclamation is legit. We need to broaden that to the world. Child slavery, child labor laws from the early 1900s, we need to bring that around the globe because eight-year-olds shouldn't be working 16-hour days anywhere on Earth.

Well, now you're getting a little bit too big for where this conversation was going. I mean, look, the issue I'm talking about is... What I'm concerned where this conversation was going. I don't know. I mean, look, the issue I'm talking about is. What I'm concerned with is a supremacy clause. I don't want a global supremacy clause like we have in the United States. A guaranteed bill of rights for everybody? Well, maybe we do need something like that then. The problem is we are in this bubble in the United States where the Constitution is a force field taking active fire and eroding before our eyes.

You look at what's going on in Ontario. Did you see these videos out of Ontario? They basically said you can't leave your home unless you have permission or whatever, and the police can detain you and ask you what you're doing outside of your house. $800 fines or something like that. That's really scary.

They were saying in the UK earlier last year that you couldn't have adult activities with someone you were just meeting or something like that. You can't go on holiday. It's a 5,000-pound fine. Here in the United States, they would love to silence our speech. Guess what? What did Dave Chappelle say?

The Second Amendment is just in case the first one doesn't work out. I love that. Well, to your point about the two-party system, I swear I have a point here. It's now evolving into where the Republican Party or conservatives are the only ones respecting, it seems like, the Constitution. And we've gone so far to where we are now, where that Constitution is eroding. And it's like, who is upholding these values? And to your point about big business, you know, our founders, they didn't want big government. Why would they want these gargantuan monopolies dominating? They're just as controlling as a big government would be. Right. And and that's super concerning. And then you also look at the populist movement, though, like what happened in Brexit or even the

Trump movement. People are craving for nationalism. They're craving for a structure. And thank the Lord that we have our Constitution. We need to preserve it at all costs. They're doing everything in their power, the establishment, to destroy it. Right. That's why I'm saying it's like we're all these small little children underneath the big blanket of the Constitution,

and they're the monsters outside our bed and we're being protected. But sooner or later, they're tearing through it. They're ripping it away piece by piece. I don't like forcing things on people in general, but the Constitution was kind of forced on everyone in the United States and maybe we do need to force something like that on the globe. I don't know about all that.

I don't think it works that way. You entice them to adopt it? That's the idea of nationalism, which is we have a constitution. We have our rules. We need to protect that. And other people can do what they want in their own countries. I guess military – it doesn't have to be military aggression force. There's other ways to force, like use the force to get people to adopt a new way of thinking.

I mean, look, man, that kind of stuff didn't work. We were trying to go and force. Yeah, well, airdrop blue jeans into Afghanistan, and then none of that stuff works. I think they said blue jeans. What was it? Blue jeans ended the Cold War. Oh, really? Oh, is that what that is?

I didn't hear that. Yeah. And then was it Gorbachev did a Pizza Hut commercial? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Weird. Well, you have Joe Biden coming out saying no amendment is absolute. This is amazing.

Joe Biden was talking about the Second Amendment. He no, no amendment is absolute. This is amazing. We was talking. Joe Biden was talking with the Second Amendment. He said no amendment is absolute. And ever since the inception of the amendment, there are some people who weren't allowed to own guns. You know, those people were who weren't allowed to own guns when the Second Amendment was was drafted. Oh, I do. Slaves. Not a good point. Joe Biden.

I said not surprising coming from Joe Biden. Yeah, no, exactly. Be real. i'm giving a speech downstairs and man he is well we we actually have a another story here on on biden check this out ted cruz says biden's comments on chauvin verdict are grounds for a mistrial he's right we saw it with maxine waters she made these threats over the weekend and the judge in the case said i'll give you this to the fence. Congresswoman Waters' statements may give you something on appeal and could overturn the entire

trial. Then we had Joe Biden come out today. I think it was today. And he said he was hoping for the right verdict because the evidence was overwhelming. Now, I don't know if that's grounds for a mistrial because the jurors were already sequestered but the idea that the democrats were making public statements influencing absolutely yeah you got these jurors man they know their house is going to get burned to the ground unless they give the extremists what they want so they did there it is that there's no justice there's no fair trial here well and then going back to the business stuff it it's the same way. I mean, are they, our business is going to be boycotted then if, you know, if they don't comply to a different, a policy initiative or what is going on in the, in current events or the political space.

When I see people talk about censorship and the weird cancel culture stuff and they laugh about it in a sense where it's like, they're not laughing because they think it's funny what's happening to people. They laugh because it's like, it's just so absurd. These people are crazy. I'm like, you realize that level of social enforcement where they're censoring speech they don't like. Right.

Where they're getting people fired from jobs because they spoke up or stood up. That's how authoritarianism begins. You know, I often say in the context of reading, say, 1984, Brave New World, or Fahrenheit 451, did everybody reading those just assume in those worlds one day, blink, there was an authoritarian government? Just like you wake up one day and there's a guy on the screen saying,

I am your dictator, ha ha ha. No, it happens gradually through social acceptance and social pressure. The only reason the government has power is because people have confidence in it. So when you get to a point where everyone's like, I will either say nothing or I'll join the mob, congratulations. You are on that roller coaster heading right down into totalitarianism.

Yeah, I kind of actually feel quite sympathetic for the jurors. People are saying, like, you know, they're pansies, they're being pushed around, and I don't think that's the case. I agree that they could be much stronger, but I also sympathize that they're concerned about what's going to happen to their homes and their kids, you know, their families, but

Tim seems to disagree with that. I think about the founding fathers, and I don't even know the number. Many of the people who signed the Declaration of Independence had their homes burned to the ground. Yeah, you're right. They were killed. And there are people right now. Could you imagine like if like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin, they're like, you know, chilling, watching what's going on here. And they're like, you know, a bunch of people died for freedom, for liberty, for the Constitution, for the Bill

of Rights, for the right to individual freedoms. And now you've got people who won't even say words. You've got people that won't even risk losing money. There are people who literally watch their homes get burned to the ground because they believed in something. And today in America, you have people who are like, don't look at me.

I don't want to be involved. I'm not sticking my neck out for anybody. So this is a point I made to Catalina on the drive back. I don't think that we're going to be able to actually win this war or get our culture back without being inconvenienced. We are in love with convenience. We like everything to be soft and easy, perfectly temperature controlled. We have serious first world problems and it is biting us in the butt. You know what I think?

You know what I think? I'll say this. What's that? serious first world problems and it is biting us in the butt you know i think you know i think it is i'll say this was that in 17 you know in the 1760s up to 1780s enough stuff with all the revolutionary war there was no air conditioning yeah so everybody was already drenched in sweat and grime and all agitated yeah so they were just ready for a fight it's like you're sitting there you're in south carolina you are sweating like. And then you get a letter and you open it. You're drenched in sweat. And it's like, we are taxing your crop.

Ah! Independence! Banging on the table. Now people are sitting in their massage chairs watching Nobody, the new movie, on Amazon Prime with a deep dish pizza overnighted from Chicago to wherever they are. And they're like i mean this is nice it could be worse because it's not impacting their lives but then you see look what happened with robin hood and gamestop and uh even the the twitter censorship right

when it affects people's lives personally i think that's when people start kind of waking up and wanting to have a voice and saying that, look, I this is not OK. And you do need to push back. But I think a big thing, too, is that like our generation just really doesn't. I think our history of our country and the fact that, you know, in the 40s, we were fighting fascism. We were fighting Nazis and even in Vietnam, right? I mean, we have, our country has been a beacon of hope and fighting the real ideologies out there and the real threat of authoritarianism decade after decade. And yet, and then even our founding and the fabric of how we we came to be america why is that being lost in history why aren't millennials scared to the core of communism and socialism and then

we're crazy because we we come out and we say this is absolutely this is absurd that we're even having conversations like the green new deal or even what's happening now with the political unrest. Well, the U.S. fought the Nazis, like you said. We as a country, we're engaged in war, and there was a very atrocious political faction and factions, the Axis powers. And then we had the Cold War. So we were constantly in this ideological battle where we had to protect ourselves. And then after the Cold War, or actually with Nixon and some of the other administrations coming up to the end of the Cold War, I guess the U.S. decided to open up trade to China, maybe out of fear that if China went and allied with Russia more seriously, then we'd have lost the Cold War or something like that.

Now, the great ideological battle is the U.S. versus China, but we don't have national unity saying we must fight and resist the Chinese Communist Party. Now it's just a bunch of billionaires saying, stop criticizing China. Come on, you know, just buy our stuff. That's a great point. But I also think about we were in, you know, the war on terror for 20 years. When you're not only in the military or even public opinion, we look at when we get into these conflicts and it's like, did we even have a goal? I mean, why is this going on for 20 years? And now we're going to talk about political unrest globally again. I mean, it's almost a lack of leadership in different administrations that I think have really caused this and even Congress to a fault. And just just the I don't want to say it's not complete incompetence, but it's definitely agenda pushing from within that has put us in this position now, like with China.

I think we just don't have leaders. Yeah, I think that's the the big challenge there are a few uh that i can easily name in terms of conservative leadership and it's people like stephen crowder and tucker carlson yeah but they're not in politics right if could you imagine if crowder was like in the senate yeah he'd be like he'd actually be doing things right and said he's you know well he's doing something maybe arguably more important by being an influential voice and i was we were talking about this actually in the drive up is just how um everybody i think has kind of their own gifts and their their role in in civic

duty in a sense and i think journalists and and people like tucker carlson and even you guys i mean there's such a everybody kind of has their own way of kind of serving, right, serving others and and serving, you know, the fabric of our country in a sense here within. And, you know, again, I think President Trump was a great leader. I think in a lot of ways he stood up and he was the fighter that a lot of people wanted. And I think now a lot of people are craving that in in at all levels locally. And they just want somebody who's not afraid to stand firm and stand up and fight for and be principled. Unlike the Republicans leadership now, which are like just wagging the finger at Maxine Waters. But I will say of Trump, he was absolutely a fighter.

He was loud, bombastic, tweeted like crazy, but people accepted that they finally had someone who was fighting on their behalf. So what did the left say? He was a strong man. He was a dictator. I'm sorry, man. Donald Trump being loud, bombastic, and kind of erratic is better than Joe Biden stumbling down the stairs and being unable to negotiate with any of these countries and just being weak. Trump was far from perfect, but at least he was just over that threshold of actually doing things and fighting for things.

I think a problem is like I keep thinking about Eisenhower, how he basically acknowledged the military industrial complex and that they deferred leadership to this quiet, secretive organization that is somewhat running the government, running the world with military bases, establishing this liberal economic order around the globe. So a real leader would stand up and say, I'm going to break this apart and get killed because they're in the crosshairs. They're vocally speaking. They know where they work. They work at the White House and they stand no chance. They're vocally speaking. They know where they work. They work at the White House. And they stand no chance. They're surrounded by people that are working for that system, the military industrial complex. So a real leader, it's almost like you don't see them. But we want someone to step up and speak.

And we want that person to be the leader. At least I do. It's inspiring. But in modern days, when the leaders are in the shadows, and I use the word leader in an odd way, the people that are making the decisions. Yeah. Maybe that's the leadership system. And that's the same thing about with Eisenhower. It's like he was on the ground with his troops, right?

You read every type of servant leadership or leadership book, whether it's business or military. The best leaders are there on the ground with their people. And the issue, especially now when you bring up the establishment to kind of like tie everything together, what we were talking about earlier, is that these people sit in their ivory tower and they're in D.C. You have these bureaucrats, you have these people that are in a faraway place, as Reagan used to say, and they're not in tune with the everyday American. They're not in tune with what people want and where the country is going. Why are our manufacturing companies are getting shipped off to China? Because our politicians don't understand small business

owners and they don't understand how their policies are affecting everyday people and everyday lives. And I think that's the biggest issue. We don't have enough people on the ground. Yeah, I would love to see a president or like a leader get on like a video chat conference with 30 other people and just listen to them all for like two or three hours a day. Right. Well, the two big issues that I see, one, economics, obviously, under Donald Trump. Yeah. The economy did really well in 2019. It was kind of a crazy year. Just everything was going so great for so many people. And then COVID happened, which then everything kind of went really bad for a lot of people but under trump the economy when things were not you know covet but you also had the

critical race theory stuff which is now becoming more and more pervasive donald trump signed those executive orders i don't think he understood the problem enough but he still took action and now you have joe biden basically going as woke as possible, rescinding these executive orders. And now it's going to start getting really, really bad. I mean, these people are overtly racist. And the policies that they push are incredibly divisive. So I have to wonder, because we've had this conversation with China Uncensored, I think, and James Lindsay, actually, where, you know, what is China doing in terms of the wokeness and the culture war? And it may be that they're exacerbating it. They're trying to. So while they're extracting our manufacturing base in our economy, they're also helping to seed an extremely

divisive and racist ideology, which, in my opinion, is antithetical to the Constitution and, you know, what Americans believe. But that is becoming more and more pervasive. You get someone like Joe Biden, you get someone like Kamala Harris, and that's it. It's going to start spreading. It's going to get worse. And then we're going to see

more and more Democrats start embracing this stuff. You start seeing even some Republicans start to dance around this kind of stuff. And then eventually you'll have a bunch of weird cult dogma ideology, which, as far as I'm concerned, may as well be a religion.

And it's going to be infecting government. And we were talking about flow state yesterday. You ever do meditation? Absolutely. Love meditation. This racism and this weird ideology that you're talking about, it's like it's infected the mind and it's making people think on overload and overload. Maybe it's not making it, but that's what they're. So when you can clear your mind, that's making people think on overload and overload maybe it's not making it but it's that's what they're so when you can clear your mind that's the way out i think i think people are what's the right way to put it they i think deep down many people know it's an it's an inherently

evil and just like corrupt ideology but they know that if they speak up they'll be canceled they'll be threatened so it's like the jurors. You know what I mean? They're like, I'm not going to say anything because I don't want my house burned down. There's a lot of people who are like, I'm not going to challenge the woke establishment and this critical race theory stuff because it will destroy my life and my career. But then you look at someone like you. I mean, you talk about it almost every day and complain about it, and your career is thriving. And that's why I keep telling people to start doing it to start standing up because it's it's it's it's i don't i don't know exactly where the quote come

from comes from i will tell you that i i think i accidentally made up a quote from andrew breitbart where someone told me this they said i was told that breitbart said this and he didn't but it was you walk towards the fire and it's scary at first but on the other side is freedom and so you have all these people who are seeing this fire, and they're like, I can't do it. I can't. It's bad. And then I'm like, watch. And I run, and I jump over the fire, jump through the wall.

And you're fine. Jump right through. No problem. And there's freedom on the other side. We're all hanging out. We're all free. No one can do anything to us. They can't take anything away from us.

We've built something new that is ours. But you have to keep moving when you get close to that fire, because if you stop and you panic, you're going to burn to death. And, but is it, does it all come down to, and almost to bring in the meditation aspect as well. And like the self and the ego and all of that, is it a courage issue? Right. And like a lot of people, you know, our country was founded upon individual liberty, personal responsibility to take risks, to be whoever you want to be. There's no ceiling. You know, you define who you are, you define your own destiny. But then we've slowly eroded into, no, you must comply. You are in this social order. You are, you know, even with the school system, you know, you kind of have to fit this mold. And are we as a society just so, have we just been so kind of led onto this kind of social structure? This is the way things are

supposed to be. Therefore, we shouldn't speak out. We shouldn't have the courage to speak out. And then it goes back to kind of like meditation. Is that, are we all just striving to kind of unlock that courage and unlock that self and get rid of that ego and stand firm and kind of move forward? And I think more people need to do that. Yeah, sure. I was growing up in public school system. I was always afraid to speak out, hand up. Yeah, I want to get in trouble.

That was a big part of it. I don't want to get in trouble. And taking psychedelics opened my mind and made me realize how powerful I am as an individual, especially marijuana was the first one, psilocybin. And the government has made those substances illegal for a reason. It's not a weird coincidence. Those are powerful individual creationism tactics to use chemicals in life. And it's very dangerous for the natural order to constantly

have upheaval. So I understand why they're controlled in a way, but to our detriment, as we can see, a psilocybin was just made legal in DC and used for PTSD. And I'm sorry, you said it looked like you were about to say something. No, but we can talk. You were mentioning something before because we were just talking about the critical race theory stuff. Or say I brought it up, talk you're mentioning something before because we were just talking about the critical race theory stuff yeah or say i brought it up but you were mentioning something about schools and like furries and things like that yes so you have so there are a lot of different states passing bills now um that critical race theory and all this critical theory in general i suppose right being it's now being implemented at a state level perspective

and then the school boards can either determine whether or not they obviously want to encourage it but there's a huge problem because then again you get back to being bullied and and bullied into submission and if you're that one parent that stands up and says i'm not okay with my child not only the teacher talking about this stuff, but my child having to comply and sit there and listen to this. Are you then, you know, your house being burned to the ground because you're one parent that had courage to stand up for their child. And then on a state level, when you have your elected officials pushing this

and a state perspective, where is the control, right? Who does have the power to get that stuff out of our school systems? The parents should. The school board should, not the state. What's interesting about this stuff is that because critical theory is a religion, but it's not recognized legally as one,

it's basically them putting religion into the schools, into the public schools. Right. These are people who believe insane things that aren't true. They believe things that are not based in fact or history. And the teachers are teaching it. They're creating diversity, inclusivity, and equity positions at corporations. This is religious.

It's non-theistic religion. And now it's in schools. Dogmatic. Right. And then who determines, especially in a company, who determines what the criteria is if you're not complying with their diversity and inclusion. Your woke priest. The woke equivalent of one. Right.

The chief diversity officer acts as the internal party member to tell you what is right or wrong. But more specifically, correct if I'm wrong, but you were mentioning something about schools protecting furries. Is this true? Yes, schools protecting furries.

But this has actually happened? Yeah, I won't name the school. But this actually happened. And it's very similar to kind of the gender things as well um if you if you are in if you're a teacher and you don't you know refer to somebody as their correct pronoun or now a furry for example uh you could be fired or you can be in trouble suspended whatever it might be for those that aren't familiar with what if you guys all know what

furries are right yeah but enlighten me. So they're basically people who have some kind of, that identify with anthropomorphic cartoon animals. So they have what's called a fursona. We got booted off the internet, but we'll just keep going. They have what's called a fursona

where they have a suit that they wear that is a cartoon animal. And some people refer to them as fetishists. Others say it's just more of an identity thing. But the reason I thought this was interesting when you brought this up before is because I've talked about this, that under the New York City human rights law, it does provide legal protection to furries. So people who want to wear a fur suit to work,

under the law should be legally allowed to do it. The law states, at least in New York, that gender identity is self-expression and that you cannot be discriminated against based on what you wear, what you call yourself. And for obvious reasons, right? If a transgender person is, you know, if it's someone born male and then they identify as female and they're wearing a dress and they say their name is Susan, the idea is the business can't discriminate against them based on those characteristics. But then it opens the door for things like furries. And I think the thing about furries is that it's interesting because it's a recognizable identity group of people that is – I mean they have conventions. There's a lot of them. So you can't act like it's not real.

And they're protected under these rules. So, you know, earlier before the show, you were mentioning something about how like a school, there was like a teacher, I guess, who didn't want to do it or something. Well, yeah. And I won't name it. You don't got to get specific.

But yeah, a teacher was like, I cannot believe that I, you know, I could get in trouble because I call this person by their name and not by their furry fursona. I don't remember what that is until this particular instant. And this is happening in a lot of different places. This is happening in states all across the country and well particularly more blue states for you know

obvious reasons from a policy perspective but this is happening a lot and like and parents probably don't even know and then their kids have to deal with the stuff at school i mean it's just so it seems so bizarre to me i think there may be a light light at the end of the tunnel homeschool your kids right this is going to encourage more and more parents to get out of the tunnel, homeschool your kids. Right. This is going to encourage more and more parents to get out of the public school system. Everything the left has been doing has been pushing this country, in my opinion,

closer towards Ancapistan. Yeah. Love it. Defund the police. Okay, we'll hire private police. We're going to indoctrinate your kids in your schools. Then we're going to create

our own school pods and pull our kids out. It's forcing families to basically privatize things. And you have so many moms or parents that were never even political at all but then they see this stuff infiltrating from a political perspective and they're like wow i need to get involved because this has gotten to a point where it's affecting me and my children and and that really kind of wakes people up as well i mean i hear this all the time on the campaign trail they're're like, I never followed politics until this stuff was happening.

And so that is a silver lining too. Is this very stuff like little kids that were sat down in front of like Teletubbies or like cartoons with like a broken family? I think so. I don't know about broken family, but I think if someone identifies with anthropomorphic cartoon animals, I have to imagine that they spent a decent amount of time as a child watching anthropomorphic cartoon animals and then built an identity around that. Tiny Toons? Yeah. Looney Tunes or whatever, then you're seeing cartoon animals talking, and your brain is being wired for that to be adult society.

So you build this identity around cartoon animals that talk and act like people, and then you get people who dress up like that identify that way. If I played Age of Empires as a kid, do I get to be Joan of Arc then? If you play Age of Empires as a kid, you may end up, I don't know, running for office to become some kind of political politician. People just need to – kids need to play more outside or something. I mean this has just gotten – I think strategy games are incredible for your brain. Oh, they are. Kids need jobs.

Kids need jobs. Kids need jobs. Kids need jobs. Kids need jobs. But not the awful kind of jobs from the industrial era, like hanging out with your dad and watching him. Yeah, like raising chickens. That's what I did. Children should be watching their parents work in some capacity. So that's what I mean by jobs.

Be like, hey, I'm going to be building this thing. Come watch and I'll show you what I'm doing. So kids should apprentice. Right. Yeah. That's what they used to do. The kid would watch their parent do a certain task and learn how to do it. So play outside, play strategy games, and apprentice?

That's the key to parenting, I think. There you go. As a non-parent, that's the way I would parent. Kids want to be like adults. So they're looking up to adults and they're emulating that behavior. If we put kids around a bunch of kids, they just emulate each other and then they get their behaviors from an amalgamation of weird YouTube videos and, you know. Oh, geez. Well, why aren't the parents saying?

Parents are working. Both mom and dad are at work. Yeah, that's true. Or they don't realize how powerful like media can warp a brain right especially young brain yeah this is so interesting to me because my family got static because we were homeschooled and everyone's like well they need to be socialized they need to be around other kids their age and my parents are like no they're around adults you know adults will show them how to speak and how to act and they don't really need that influence and i did did wish that I had more friends, but at the same time, I feel like I did mature

faster because I was around people who already had this developed sense of self. And to me, it was a net benefit because it's like, you need that positive influence of adults in your life, not just other kids. Yeah. No, I was homeschooled too. And I think for high school, I was not good in school at all. And it kind of goes back to, you know, everybody trying to fit somebody into a box. I think all kids really learn differently and school is just not for me. But then I was homeschooled and I ended up graduating a few years early and just really thriving because not only are you around kind of adults, but you're also able to kind of understand curriculum or, you know, almost read

and, and be outside of this kind of construct and, and the complexities that come in a classroom, right. That come with a classroom and, and other kids and things like that. So I'm a huge proponent of school choice, especially in homeschooling and, you know, every kid should learn their own way. And, um, yeah, there's a social aspect of that. So you went to public school in the beginning? Yeah, I did. I did. I went to public school.

For how long? Up until about high school. And then by choice did you leave? No. Yeah. You know what? I just, I didn't, I never found, I don't know if I was challenged or it was just a different, I wasn't challenged enough,

but I just learned differently. And I ended up homeschooling and then going to the community college back home and basically skipping junior and senior year of college and then going straight into university at Miami, Ohio for a four-year degree. So kind of did a weird route if you could do it again would you have homeschooled the entire time or do you think it helped that you spent some time that's a good question i don't know uh i would i think probably up until elementary school i i think public school is okay or like being around other kids is fine. But then there gets to a point where, you know, all kids are learning differently.

Or at that time, it was like you're either put into, you know, higher level classes or you're not. Or if you were, a lot of it was, I think it's, I guess in short, I'm glad I did at least by elementary school and a little bit of middle school in the public space. But then ultimately kind of where I needed to get serious and needed to get into college and needed to kind of focus and thrive. I was able to do that by being outside of homeschooled at a high school level. You used the Internet a lot when you were homeschooling? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, that makes sense. That's the key, man.

Yeah. It's a secret. We are in the era where you teach yourself. Yeah, you become an autodidact, right? Is that the... Yeah, autodidact. I feel like I was such an avid reader as a kid and always kind of wanted to explore other topics

and I just did not conform to this kind of just this the structure of public school and just what they wanted to teach. It just was not my thing. Did they say nasty things about you where your teacher's like, if you don't do this, you're going to end up working at McDonald's? Oh, yeah, absolutely. It was crazy. I was at, I i think like a junior level reading level and i was in like third grade or something great like and i only say that because in this school and in some public schools

you have teachers that they they look at kids and they're like well you're not smart enough and you're not that well my test scores proved otherwise I just wasn't you know good at school I guess yeah and and that really hurts self-esteem because I knew I was smart but I just never but when you have people telling you that you're not fitting a mold or you don't have teachers that are encouraging you in a positive way which I had great teachers but I also had kind of bad ones like every kid. Right. Um, and you can talk about this. I'm sure from a homeschool perspective is, um, when you have people at such a young age, like not encouraging you or not wanting to kind of one-on-one or help you from a

learning perspective. And that's where the parent comes in. And my parents came in, they were like, you know what, you're, you're not doing great in school. Let's try. We know that you're smart, but let's find a different Avenue for you. That's where the parents have to take that responsibility, right? But it does. It does hurt your self-esteem when you're a kid because they're like, well, you're different from your other kids. I kind of had the opposite reaction when I was in school and I would do well on tests but just not care for the homework.

I just got more arrogant the more they told me I was wrong. I was like, so I remember I had they told me i was wrong i was like you so i remember i had one instance in math class when i was like in seventh grade or something and it was like a really stupid problem like 30 minus 50 and i was like dozing off not paying attention to my teachers like who can answer this question and then she calls on me thinking she got me and i look at it i'm like negative 20 and then i go back to like doodling stick figures and then she demand she demanded of me like what's the formula and i'm like negative 20. And then I go back to like doodling stick figures and then she demanded of me like, what's the formula?

And I was like, formula for what? Like, how did you come to the answer that, you know, 30 minus 50 is negative 20? And I was like, three minus five? What do you mean? Like, it's just arithmetic. It like did in my head.

Yeah. And then I got in trouble. I got detention because of it. And so I was like, this just proves these people are morons because I can do it instantly and they can't. I, the biggest frustration of mine, I remember I was chewing gum in school. I think I was in middle school or something. I was chewing gum and I forgot to spit it out before getting into class. And I did it twice, I guess in the same week,

my teacher deducted from my grade because I was chewing gum and at that point i was like this is unacceptable you are a teacher you are here to teach me this subject you are not here to discipline me over gum this is communism and i freaked out i swear i was like this is at that point i was probably in middle school and i was like at this point this is on i'm like you my i'm being punished from a grade perspective and because of i was chewing gum how how hilarious is it that how hilarious would it be to see 13 year old catalina screaming at the teacher this is communism telling me not to chew gum is communism i love it no but it shows that deducting your points wasn't about your your skill or abilities right it was about you being a perfect little drone and doing as you're told.

Exactly. And then, you know, nobody that, everybody that did what they were told got perfect grades. That's communism. They'll pass you through school. I had a class in college that I never attended. I think I attended the first day and then just stopped going. I missed the midterm test. And they were like, it's an automatic failure.

I was like, hey. I went in. I talked to the guy. I charmed him. And I was like, can. I went in, I talked to the guy, I charmed him and I was like, can I somehow do anything to pass? He was like, if you can get an A on the final, I'll give you a D and pass you. So I studied,

I got an A on the final and they passed me. Totally against, they just liked me. I don't want to swear, but that whole system is rigged and jacked, in my opinion. It's so easy to get through it if they like you and it's, like you said, if you're. It's so easy to get through it if they like you. And it's like you said, they'll just, if you're arrogant,

they just want to destroy you because they're ego maniacs. And then think about the political stuff. Sorry to interrupt you, but think about politics. I was very outspoken as a kid or as a college student at my school. And I had professors that I would get bad grades because I, on a test, if I didn't agree with them. And I'll say that now and I'm proud of it because I look at some kids now and they're on campus and they're like, well, I just I really want to write the right thing so that my professor doesn't, you know, fail me because I'm a conservative. That is a huge problem.

That is a very bad problem. Sounds like his conservatives are spineless or just kids in general. I'd rather have a D than ever. Yeah, I'd rather fail. The problem is they're spending all this money to go there and if they disagree with their professor and fail, then

they've wasted their money basically. So they have to agree with something they don't agree with and it's warping these kids into crazy probably what's happening yeah yep i'm so agitated today because of this this chauvin thing school cuts off the tall grass if you if you are young and talented they do everything to hold you back and try and stuff you in a box yeah it moves at a specific pace if you're not fast enough you you get left behind. If you're too fast, you get pulled back. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then you're told that you're different. And then we think about, I love, for example, Ayn Rand and the Fountainhead and a lot of her books. And you think about all these entrepreneurs and people who weren't good in school and they,

you know, do great things in the world. And why aren't those people celebrated? But instead we need to protect the structure of the public school system and protect everybody kind of is, is the same. Uh, I think that's the detriment of individuality in a lot of ways. Yeah. It, it,

it's communism. Public education is an incredible boon. You know, before we had it, it was hard to get an education, but now we don't need this weird regiment. We have the internet and access to the information know, before we had it, it was hard to get an education, but now we don't need this weird regiment. We have the internet and access to the information

so we can still provide the boon. I'll be honest, man. Kids should be learning stuff way before five years old. Oh, yeah. And so the idea that an American kid is going to like sit around

watching nothing but cartoons until five and then go to school to learn the stuff. How horrible for a smart kid. Yeah. Well, and I'll, to make it also not to bring up politics,

but to bring up politics, there was a school in Illinois and they had the worst percentage of their kids were not reading and writing. I mean, they had the worst test scores, but that the biggest priority for them was renaming the school. They didn't want it to be called Thomas Jefferson anymore.

They wanted it to be called because of the race relations and tearing down statues and all that. That's what you're focused on when your kids are at an 11% reading at literacy rate against the state. When did this happen? This was recently. This was a couple months ago. Did they change it to George Floyd Middle School?

They wanted it Barack Obama Middle School. That's right. But then people started... They pushed back on that. Pushed back on that because he didn't do enough for DACA and immigration. Again, your school is failing. It was in a predominantly minority district. So people say, well, we're against...

Why aren't you well if you want to help minorities then you know help increase your literacy rates increase people being able to thrive and get out of the system whatever it might be hold on you're no no i'm sorry catalina that is racist the reason they can't thrive it's not because they don't know how to read it's because of white supremacy right it's very it's it's just so much easier should i teach the kid to read or just point at ian and be like ian you're you're a the problem with that and why it gets why some people actually might think it is because in the early 1800s when the slavery system was there there were like white people that had black slaves and they were keeping them illiterate on purpose

because they wanted to keep them disempowered and unable to migrate, basically. They're using all this stuff as a scapegoat. Because it wasn't that they were white and black. It didn't matter what their race was. They just happened to be those people at that time. Access to information. Slavery is all over the planet. Access to information

and poverty. These are major issues that create injustice. Access to information. The lack of it. And poverty, like these are major issues that create injustice. Right. Access to information. Like the lack of it, I mean. Yeah. Like people who can't access the internet or who are not able to learn the truth about what's going on, who have bad teachers or who are forced to go to these institutional learning facilities and they can't learn.

People who have access to knowledge and people who are... I mean, poverty is connected to that. If you're poor, the likelihood that you're reading the classics and powerful books and philosophy is lower. According to Democrats, though, you can't even get a license if you're a minority,

let alone access the internet. So that's the opportunity thing. They think the opportunity doesn't exist. Right. When quite literally, it's an outcome issue. But the opportunity does exist. If people aren't doing it's an outcome issue, but the opportunity does exist. If people aren't doing it, there's personal choice involved. You're making me think about censorship

and like this whole censorship thing is, although they may think the CEOs may think they're doing something good by keeping dangerous information away from you, they might actually be punishing us because sometimes you need to see all sides of a situation. MindConf is a book. People read it and become more intelligent and intellectual, understanding the way a psychopath may think, not necessarily emulating it, but you must see the demon to circumvent the demon. And I'm scared that if we censor too much information that we'll end up becoming whitewashed and basically fall prey to this stuff when it does arise.

It's like book burning. I mean, the books being taken off of the Internet or, you know, whatever it might be. It's the same thing. You're who ultimately decides what is what is wrong and what is that is to be always the question is who decides what gets to stay and what gets censored. Right. be always the question is who decides what gets to stay and what gets censored right and the the point that we met on the show several times during the lockdown people couldn't go to bars people couldn't talk to each other but you could go online the only problem is your opinions were filtered through twitter facebook and youtube so certain ideas weren't allowed to propagate right creepy stuff and i'm sure facetime does that have and and uh uh... With that being said, I will state, I got suspended from

Facebook over the weekend. I made a joke about cops being racist. Too spicy? No, seriously. I was like, I'm going to make a joke that basically is a cops are racist joke. And it was not that spicy at all. It was like, how many cops

did you say to change the light bulb? I guess I won't tell the joke. It was just about the light bulb going black. And then I posted it on Facebook, and they suspended me for 24 hours. I thought it was hilarious that of all the things I say, it's the calling cops racist is the thing that gets me, all right, Facebook, whatever you say, man. But I do appreciate that the people who watch me and follow me don't get offended when I make a joke like that because it's a smart bunch who watch this show. Politically nuanced and understanding and okay with humor. They're craving authenticity too. trail a lot and why people probably just love you and in the podcast and why people come to

a lot of these different mediums now and gravitate towards people who are just honest and authentic and and you can still you know joke i mean we're getting to this point where it's like everything offends everybody yeah that's uh that's fahrenheit 451 isn't it? Yeah. That's even scarier. It's like you can't even talk. It's because everything's offensive. You've got to get rid of the books. In text it is. You can't read the room in text is my thoughts.

I have been so inundated with text in the last 16 years since the internet comments, basically YouTube comments, and 14 years, 15 years, that now when I get a text from my dad, who's one of my best friends, I just look at it like every other person. I'm cold. I'm dismissive to it because it's just text in my face. If there's some criticism in it, I don't hear his voice.

I don't feel his wisdom. I just see his profanity. Well, how about we take some advice from the Super Chats and see what they have to say. If you haven't already, you can leave a Super Chat. We'll try and read as many as we can. We've got a lot of Super Chats. Are we still online? Oh, I thought we weren't.

So we have multiple redundancies. So sometimes when you hear that boo-boo-boo, it cuts off and in real quick. Oh, yeah. We got Super Chats. People are giving us money to be able to say things. I love it. So if you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, hit the notification bell, and go to TimCast.com, become a member, because we will have an exclusive

members-only segment coming up after the show. Yes. Let's read. We got Kat Garcia, who says, hey, guys, an animal farm, the animal sat atop the knoll and sadly realized this was the system they had bled for. Are we those animals, sadly, sitting atop the hill, realizing there is no recourse for the system we helped create? Man. There is hope.

Yeah, I was going to say. Sometimes I might be pessimistic, but I don't want to be that pessimistic. You can change a lot really fast, especially with the ability to communicate on the Internet horizontally instead of vertically. You don't have to get 50 people in a room. You can get 100 million people in a room. You can get 100 million people in a room. Well, Poofy followed it up with we're seeing all of the institutions that make the U.S. great turn to smoldering

ash. That's good. Yeah, it's kind of brutal. It is, yeah. Oh, man. People are pretty pessimistic in the chat right now. I don't know if I can keep being a beacon of light to all these negative comments. No, you can. Free speech still reigns supreme.

I'll tell you why. Because we have people like Catalina who are literally running for office. People who are like my age and I'm like, she's actually doing something. That's awesome. Thank you. But so are you guys. And I always hound in on the point of local level, school board, state rep,

federal. Get involved. Be a precinct captain. Be a committeeman. Knock doors for people. Get involved. You can change things, but we need to mobilize on a bigger scale. All right. Arsian says, the verdict, Chauvin means justice doesn't have to exist if you're hated enough.

Your justice is now a popularity contest. Chauvin was apparently wanting to plead guilty to third degree murder because he knew it was done no matter what. He knew the politics of it was going to, but he didn't. They didn't allow him to, I guess. They took the third degree murder charge out

and then made it second degree murder. It seems like a setup, to be honest. They wanted this. They wanted this guilty verdict. It's like a setup, to be honest. They wanted this. They wanted this not guilty. I'm sorry. They wanted this guilty verdict. It's such a dark. It was such a dark day for me today.

And I saw images of people crying, like grief, that even though he was found guilty, it wasn't what they were. It's not enough. It's like when you kill the enemy you hate and you realize that vengeance wasn't what made me happy. Yeah, revenge doesn't make that pain go away. Doesn't work. Unreasonably Angry says, do these jurors not realize they're not safe from these marchers regardless of their verdict?

They don't get it. I'll say they're safer I guess to a certain degree. For now. Turnabout Turnip Knoll says, even my black co-worker thinks the riots are completely chaotic the riots would happen no matter what the outcome was we will see we'll see matt m says the jury only delayed the inevitable he'll appeal the verdict we'll get thrown uh

thrown we'll get overthrown and we we will be back where we are now this verdict is only going to hurt communities that will be under police now if If they did not indict Derek Chauvin, the riots would have happened anyway. They would have stopped and it'd be done. There'd be no riots right now. Maybe the Dante Wright thing would happen, but maybe that whole chain of defense butterfly effect, who knows what would happen. Drawing it out. Yeah, they're drawing it out. Doing the trial again reignites all that anger.

So there you go. Deliopolis says, how can you continue to say violence doesn't work if today proved nothing else, if nothing else, that violence does? Well, I guess the way I look at it is if the country burns down

and there's no justice, would you really call that working? The system isn't working. The benefit of the individual, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is failing. I guess if you want to say in the political sense that they're getting what they want by being violent extremists well i guess the only reason that's happening is because good good men do nothing good people do nothing it's it's 20 for a 21st century yeah i'm

thinking of it as like a role-playing game if you want to play as the evil character and just destroy everyone and blow up all the buildings you don't really get to enjoy the game like there's no plot so it's it's harder to be the good guy but much more in my opinion enjoyable and rewarding yeah much more nuanced we got one for for ian kaiser c says love you ian you make me laugh and think my super chat yesterday was a hulk reference but it sounded like a jab my apologies also it's 40 40 degrees here in minnesota it's too cold to riot that's a good point though yeah i'm glad to hear that the winner they came out too early mind your sarcasm and text my friend that's part of that's part of it because sometimes you just can't you can't read through that all right ipo says what you've been

arguing for is exactly what ayn rand proposes and atlas shrugged you need to shrug off the weight and leave them to their chaos i know i've been saying it the cops should all resign if they don't want you there if they're going to put you in prison for being there and no one is standing up for you i think it's time to go but i'll tell you this isn't there going to be a like if i was a cop and i was going down i'd quit right now and it would feel so good to do it a lot of them are but it's these people are going to have a quick realization about what what it really means right when you don't have police there anymore it's it's and didn't we didn't we see the the data of in polling of people wanted more yeah law enforcement and african-american community right well no i'm sure it's all communities even the suburbs we had three million dollars worth of damage in a nice

suburb of illinois nobody said anything nobody stood up after the blm riots nothing what if like um cops resigned and then amazon police showed up that supported the riots and enforced the riots and made sure they were allowed to take place. They voted for it. I know, but what if there was no vote anymore? Ian, if you come to me and say, I vote for you to hit me in the face and I did, would I feel bad for you? Wait, lie that out

again for me. If you're like, hey Tim, I would like to vote that you punch me in the face. And then I'm like, okay, and then I that you, you know, throw a throw a punch me in the face. And then I'm like, OK. And then I hit you and you start going, ah, it hurts. It hurts so bad. Should I feel bad for you when you asked me to do this? I don't think so.

They voted for Biden and Kamala Harris in Minnesota. Kamala Harris, who literally solicited donations to bail the rioters out. If private police show up and start enforcing, like helping the rioters, I'll be like, what do you want me to say? Am I supposed to... Stop.

Say stop. But they voted for it. Say vote for better people. I say that all the time, but bro, this is how the system works. I mean, just because someone crapped in your river

doesn't mean that that's just the way it's going to be. Like you can fix it. Dude, if people vote for something that is constitutional to a certain degree, I guess, if a community says we all want this thing, who are you to tell them they can't have it? An American citizen. Who are you to say they're not allowed?

That's autocracy. If you think you can go in to a community and tell them to live the way you demand. I think I can help convince them, but I'm not going to command it. Sure. So at a certain point of trying, don't you just say, dude, look, they really want their homes burned down. Why am I going to tell them they can't have it? That's like the apathy. Who's apathy?

Theirs? No. If you're like, F it, dude. Dude, if someone begs to have their home burned down, I'm going to be like, okay, well. Yeah, but it's not that literal. They voted for people they thought were going to protect them. They didn't realize. Or they didn't have better alternatives, which is what also happens in a lot of these big Democrat run.

No, I didn't mean presidential. I mean, even in a city like, say, Minneapolis or in Chicago, for example, you don't have another side really standing firm or standing up and people to counter that. They're like, well, I'm going to vote because these are the only people

to vote for. I somewhat disagree. I mean, I get it in these heavy districts. But AOC had tons of competition that were moderate Democrats and Republicans, and people still chose to vote for her. Yeah. So it's like, dude, if someone is begging to have their property destroyed, if Kamala Harris is like, I'm going to bail these people out, I'll put it this way. There's a guy standing outside my neighbor's house holding a giant torch yelling, I'm going to burn his house down. And the guy goes, I don't think he'll burn my house down. I'd like to let him in my home.

I'm going to be like, dude, I can't help you. You know what I mean? Yeah. If it's that literal, okay. Kamala Harris tweeted, send donations to bail these people out of jail. Some very serious, violent offenders. It's pretty literal. Donald Trump said, I want to stop the riots.

How did you miss that? So listen, I think, Ian, you're making the mistake that the people of Minnesota disagree with what's happening. Because they're showing us otherwise through a voting convention. Actually, speak louder than words.

But I think you're making the mistake that you're assuming people read Twitter and follow Kamala's suggestion. I don't think most people know that she did that. I didn't say that at all. I'm actually arguing that people did not pay attention in any capacity and then voted for the people who want to burn their homes down. And there's nothing I can do to defend them when they vote for it. They didn't know that they were helping the houses get burned down.

If they were like, burn my house down, then I wouldn't support them. Let me ask you a question, Ian. If a guy is staying outside of a bank and he says, hey, can you hold this bag for me and come on inside? You say, sure. And you walk in with the bank, holding open a bag, and then he robs the bank and puts the money in it. And then you hand him the bag, and you both run out together. Guess who's going to prison? Both of you.

Yes. Are you being complicit by not participating? You're not going to be able to go to a judge and be like, I didn't know what the bag was for. You should have put the bag over the guy's head. Yeah, you could have done a lot. No, I mean, look, hindsight is 20-20, but there's a guy robbing a bank, you're holding the bag, and you helped him do it. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden

were actively in support of the extremists. Yes. Now, Joe Biden did say violence is bad several times. I can respect that. But his own staff donated to bail out the rioters, and Kamala Harris directly solicited donations to do so. I get it. These people aren't on Twitter or watching the news, but they're

not informed when they go and vote, and they go and vote for people who want to burn their homes down. You're making the assumption that they don't want, that they voted for someone to burn their house down, but now all of a sudden they don't want it to happen. I kind of think they wanted this to happen. I kind of think the people of Minneapolis like the riots

and the protests. Maybe they do. Well, they need, somebody needs to lay down the law. If they don't like it, then do something about it. There are protests happening and the people of these cities

are convinced they're peaceful protesters and they've watched it happen. They watch these people go around outside. I think most people in these places like what's happening.

I genuinely believe that. So who am I to tell them how to live? That's authoritarianism, man. You vote for it. It's all yours. Count me out. I can't assume if they want it or don't want it. I just don't want to escalate.

I don't want to accelerate the problem, which is the dissolution of the police, in my opinion. Let's try this another way. A community has banned psychedelics, right? You think they shouldn't do that. You think they should live the way you want them to live. That's authoritarianism. Well, depending on how I go about enforcing that would be authoritarianism. I would make a video to try and convince them to do it.

If they vote for it, will you respect their wishes? Yeah. Okay, then now respect their vote for Kamala Harris. Yeah, but I would also try and convince them. Okay, then now respect their vote for Kamala Harris. Yeah, I do. I am not going to now say, this is why my position has become the police should leave. The vote has happened. The people have spoken. They have voted for representatives who support the riots and the extremism.

At this point, the police, it is in the best interest for them if they don't want to go to prison and for the people who asked for it for them to leave now in my opinion what will happen is what we saw last time when they voted to abolish the police the people of the city started freaking out and calling the city council begging for cops to come back right but dude if you live in someone's house and everyone is screaming ian get out and then you look over at your one best friend who's like i'm not going to get involved dude because they're going to yell at me and you're like i'm not leaving i'm one best friend who's like, I'm not going to get involved, dude, because they're going to yell at me. And you're like, I'm not leaving. I'm going to stay. It's like, dude, you should leave.

And then it turns out you were the one who made the delicious bread everyone loved, and they're going to be like, was that Ian making that bread? Can we get Ian back? You don't know what you got until it's gone. I know there is a value to walking out on someone so that they appreciate you because they don't know what they got until it's gone. But when you're talking about police law enforcement, it's not just an emotional, like, I wish they were here. It's like, people might die.

You're skipping the first point of my argument. If there's ten people in the house and four of them are really good friends with you and six vote for you to get kicked out and the other three, including you, the other three are like, I know I really like that you're here, but I'm not going to speak up because I don't want them getting mad at me.

Okay, then leave. No one is asking you're here, but I'm not going to speak up because I don't want them getting mad at me. Okay, then leave. No one is asking you to stay, dude. The cops are there. Everyone is basically saying either get out or I do not believe in you enough to support you. That's the issue. I don't know what everyone is thinking. Look, there are clearly some people who are defending it. And we're looking at social media.

We're seeing it through social media. So it's hard to tell. I'm just talking about vote numbers, dude. Or they don't want to be a part of it because if they disagree, they're going to be ostracized or bullied. Again, back to the courage thing, right? Nobody's kind of standing up and saying no.

Yeah, that came up last night that if they're disorganized and start speaking out one by one the mob will come for them one by one right we got a super chat here from the one free man he says i hope the police turn their backs on the riots tonight let it all burn that's what the mob wants this wasn't justice this was a sacrifice i'm just saying this man if the people say ian would you please leave how who are you to say no? I would leave.

They voted to abolish the police. They voted for Kamala Harris. And the cops are still there like, I'm not going anywhere. Well, now Kim Potter gets to go to prison next. Who's next? It's going to be some 28-year-old cop who just got out of the academy or whatever. And he's going to be driving his car. And then someone's going to cut him off.

He's going to crash and hit somebody. And they're going to pull him out of his car and they're going to beat him to death or some other extreme psychopathic behavior. If this was a video game and I could reload my save game, yeah, I would do that. Get rid of the police, watch them all suffer and then laugh about it

and then reload my game so that people aren't suffering anymore. But I don't want it to devolve into anarchy. Ian, we're not laughing at them. We're definitely not. And my heart 100% goes out to the people who will be suffering because of this. But's right this is something that they voted for if they didn't know that kamala harris tried to get these people out of prison that's their fault you are supposed to

do your homework before you vote i sure did like i was paying attention i was plugged in everybody should be in the same way with you i mean anyine Waters, I mean, these people, their comments matter. And if on a conservative side, if our comments matter, then they've said worse things. Somebody needs to be held accountable at the end of the day. And it goes back to voting. And you're going to vote for someone like Kamala Harris, then understand that voting has consequences. I view the cops that remain as like scabs. You know what scabs are?

Yeah, those are the people that if a union goes on strike, they'll hire like random people to fill the jobs and those are called scabs. So a lot of good cops left because, for one, many of them know they're not wanted. Many of them don't want to be the next sacrificial lamb for the cult of woken wokeness and many of them are like if you if this is what you want you'll get you know i'm not then you can have it but there's a bunch of them who are like it's paycheck i'll be fine i will prop up a system of psychotic behavior and destruction and violence and make sure that people don't you know don't realize what's going on I'll be a part of that system. To me, that's insanity. You get this Kim Potter woman and this guy with aggravated robbery,

armed with a weapon, and she shot him, and now she gets to go to prison for it. They are telling police officers in no uncertain terms, if you try to make an arrest and a mistake happens. It's felony assault and murder. So how long until the next dopey Minnesota cop who thinks he'll be fine is arresting someone. And then that person starts screaming and shouting and fighting, literally resisting arrest. And then trips and falls, hits his head and dies. And then that cop gets to go to prison hey so all these cops look man i'll put it this way by all means all the cops there can stay who am i to judge but i will not be defending any of them in any capacity when they when they're the next to line up for prison

i'll laugh honestly i i will defend them if they were like a rider was throwing a brick through a window and a cop grabbed him and then he tripped and fell and broke his head and then died and the cop is on trial, I would defend that cop. I would defend the principal or the individual to an extent. If you are standing there watching this happen and you think you will be fine, let me tell you a joke, Ian. Religious joke. There's a guy in his house. I love this one.

And he's watching the news and they say, dangerous storm is coming. Get out while you still can. And then the rain starts pouring very, very heavily. And then all of a sudden, he's sitting there watching. And so he thinks to himself, I'll be fine. If anything bad happens, the Lord will save me. And then all of a sudden, a car pulls up. They come to his door. They bang on the door and they're like, you got to get out of here. Quick, get in the car. The storms come in the floods. No, no, no. The Lord will save me. And the guy says, no, are you nuts? Come on, get in the car. And he's like, I'm going to be fine. I know my faith in the Lord will save

me. And so they're like, all right. And they get in the car and they leave. The water rises. His first floor begins flooding. So he runs upstairs next to boat, pulls up to his window. Quick, get out of the house. We're evacuating. The flood's getting too bad. And he goes, no, I have faith in the Lord. The Lord will save me. No, come on. You can't stay here. You'll drown. No, I have faith in the Lord. The boat leaves. The waters rise. He climbs onto his roof. A helicopter flies over. A guy comes out later. Quick, climb on. We're getting you out of here. I have faith that the Lord will save me. Arg the helicopter guy the guys are like are you crazy come on finally they leave he refuses the waters rise he drowns finds himself in heaven and he's confused and exasperated and then he

finally gets to meet god and he says i i believed in you i had faith in you why didn't you save me and he goes i sent you a car a boat a helicopter. What do you expect of me? That's the way I view it. It's like you have these people who are literally being shown the door every step of the way, and they know exactly what's coming if they stay in the floodwaters. Sorry, dude. I spoke out on your behalf. I defended you during the trial.

I defended the individual officers. At a certain point, what do you expect of me? I'm not going to sit here all day every day saying, oh no, the poor officers who know exactly what is going on with the rising flood waters stayed in the sinking building. But what's the alternative? They leave and give the people what they voted for and asked for. And it's sad that it has to come down to them having, you know, a lot of these cops, they, they wake up every day because they wanted to be public servants and they have these jobs and they wanted to kind of serve something greater, right? And they have to make the choice to resign or leave or not want to be involved. How many kids wake up when they're eight years old and they're like, I want to be a cop someday. And now they don't even want to pursue that path because of all that's happening and it

i empathize sure i mean i totally see obviously where you're coming from from a principal standpoint but then also that it's sad that it's gotten to that point where those those people have to make that choice yeah i don't even think there's a compromise in in blue flu you know blue flu is it's what all the cops call in sick. That's a couple days. The state just convicted Derek Chauvin. The state does not care if you call in sick for a few days. The state will panic when there's no cops to protect them. We got a super chat here from Matt Volker.

He says, every high profile person I see calling for defunding the police have access to private security. Even the Minnesota reps who demanded the defunding. When the cops are gone, there will be no one to protect the government buildings. And then you'll see the state start sweating bullets. To hire Blackwater. Maybe. Yeah, they would hire private police and then we'd... Bro, at a certain point...

We don't want mercenaries roaming the streets. You're like trying to prop up a broken system. It's not even... Well, the system's busted for sure. And so why do you keep advocating for something to keep it staying? I'm saying, dude, give the people what they voted for. Stop trying to impose your will on them. If the Minnesota police resign, then you would see police all over the country resigning.

Yes, good. That would be my fear. And then you would see governments hiring private military contractors to fill the space. And you'd see people getting their heads crushed in on the street. No, no, dude, dude, dude. And no one to answer to. If you want to live in a giant concrete block

with small cubicles stacked on top of each other and everything smells like sour milk, you can do that if you'd like. And if you want to vote to disarm yourself, you can do that if you'd like. For me, once it happens around me, I choose to leave. As the riots were expanding in the Philadelphia area and the gun laws were restrictive and it was very difficult to protect myself, I said, I better not be here because now the National Guard, a thousand have been called into Philadelphia. It was not smart to stick around. That's true

for any resident of any one of these cities. You choose what you want to do. If these cops all start resigning, I'm not worried about black water showing up in cities. We have a Second Amendment. The people who are standing up and sitting on principle probably aren't worried all that much either. The people who are staying in these cities and are giving their tax dollars to prop the system up, at a certain point, I can offer you a car, a boat, and a helicopter. And if you don't take it, what do you expect of me? You keep advocating for some way

to prop the system up. To keep it in place. No, I'm just saying don't rip it down. I'm not saying rip it down. By encouraging the cops to all resign. I'm saying it is not my will to be done if the people of the state said abolish the police and they did.

Yeah, but that's like a small minority of vocal idiots. The state voted blue, dude. Some people did yeah but that's like a small minority of vocal idiots no the state voted blue dude some people did but not everybody sure and i i'm all about fixing cities i'm all about fixing the system by creating lots of small cities with magnetic rails and small communities but i don't think just destroying it right now faster did you prove a point who said that you're saying tell the cops to resign so that they can pay us. What you don't understand, Ian, is that you think people should live the way you want them to live. No, no. Okay, so did the people vote for Kamala Harris?

Some of them. Do elections have consequences? Yeah. Should they have been responsible and known what they were voting for? Well. Did the city council members vote to abolish the police? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. No, no. Should they have known what they're voting for? No, that's not the way the system works. You don't need to know who you're voting for. You don't need to know the consequences.

You can vote for whoever you want. That's part of being. Okay. If you don't know that you're holding a blowtorch and you burn your house down, what do you expect of me? If you, if, if the city council literally voted to abolish the police, the police should say, okay, I'm out. Give the people what they're voting for.

Stop acting like they should live by your rules, Ian. I'm not suggesting that. No one voted to abolish those police right now. Yes, they did. The police of Minnesota? Yes, they did. Who voted for that and when? The city council last year voted to abolish the Minneapolis Police Department.

Last year, not yesterday. Last year. And then a bunch of cops resigned, and now they're in a desperate recruiting drive. Right. The city council was elected by people who voted for them. They wanted this. But they saw it didn't work, so then they hired new police. Well, they probably were getting backlash by the constituents, because then the constituents are like, well, what is going on here?

My city council that I voted for voted to abolish the police? Crime was skyrocketing. People started calling in the city council members, and the council members started then changing their tune, and the police department was never formally abolished. They then said, okay, we need to hire more police. Now the governor has declared a state of emergency. They're bringing in cops from, I think, Nebraska and Ohio and spending $9 million because they're desperate. Like the one super chat said, the cops should turn their backs. I'm not even necessarily saying that because that's one way to put it.

I'm saying at a certain point, it is incumbent upon the officer or any individual to say, I know what I'm not wanted and they voted for me to leave. Stop trying to force your will on other people. Oh, no, no, no. That's not a fair statement. Well, and it's also government. Because it was like two different conversations wrapped into one.

What? Telling me to not force my will on other people had nothing to do with suggesting that those police should. Did they vote for Kamala Harris? They didn't vote for the police to resign. No one did that. Ian, they voted for city council members. They did it a year ago and realized they made a mistake and then tried to rectify it.

It was like six months, seven months ago. I'm sorry to interrupt you there, Kelly. No, you're fine. Let's yeah yeah what were you gonna say i forgot whatever this is hot i'm hot it's all right han says i hope people understand when politicians call for abolishing police they really mean replacing the police with the military so the federal government can control all the states. This is their plan. Ah, interesting. They're talking about social workers. They want social workers. Stanley says police are not just responsible for themselves and the person they're arresting, but also for the people around them on a busy street when a possibly violent person is around a load of civilians. That's right.

You know what, man? I'm just at a point where it's like cops are not doctors. Cops are not marksmen. Cops are not Brazilian jiu-jitsu experts. Cops are not psychologists trained in de-escalation. They have some minimal training in all of these different areas a little bit. They get certified for their gun.

They have basic first aid. They know some de-escalation techniques. The people are asking for too much. At a certain point, I'm just... You know what, I'll put it this way. I don't care what they do. I really don't. But I'm going to tell you this. The next cop that gets arrested and charged with murder because they're trying to arrest

somebody, you think I'm going to defend them? I got a good metaphor. If a guy falls off his bike and comes in busted leg, I will triage him. And then if I see him next week, he comes back in with, he broke his leg again. I would triage him again. Next week, same thing. I would triage him again. Next week, same thing. I would triage him again and again and again forever because that is my job. And that's how I feel right now with this situation with the cops. The difference is the person who broke his leg walks in and you treat him.

Then the next time he walks in, everyone else who's inside and injured is saying, no, no, no, stop treating that guy because I was here first. You should treat me. And you go, no, I'm going to treat him instead. Good point. I don't care what anyone else thinks. If he's clogging up the system, then that's a system that you got to consider that. How about this?

The guy comes in with a busted leg and everyone starts screaming at you to stop treating him. Right. And you tell them to shut up. No, they stop. They'd scream at him to stop falling off your butt. No, no, no. You're the doctor. You're the one providing the public service.

And the person keeps getting hurt. And no matter how many times the people tell you to send him away, butt. No, no, no. They're screaming, you're the doctor. You're the one providing the public service. And the person keeps getting hurt. And no matter how many times the people tell you to send him away, you're like, nah. No, because that's for a Hippocratic oath. They have to treat the injured. Come on, dude. That makes no sense. No, that's exactly what the doctors are there for. But we're talking about police. Black Czar says the masses, and in fact

they supported an oath of the Constitution. Black Czar says the masses not supporting the police doesn't mean the police disappear. Eastern has police everywhere they're uh every everyone there hates south america has police everyone there hates etc they are simply federalized as an unaccountable as our own fbi our future yt stuff says the judge should have had waters biden and all other elected officials who voiced an opinion arrested for perjury he asked them to stay silent but they ignored him no respect and totally corrupt that's not what perjury is perjury is when you lie under oath contempt maybe but i don't think he has the authority to do that so sonny james says army recruits even more stupid

than cops if you can't defend your own land or self, what are you defending? I call it Jake Gardner paradox. Sacrifice for a country that won't defend your civil liberties or don't you? Did he sign the contract? Did he sign that contract? Josiah Magnuson says, can we all be honest and admit that Philip DeFranco is not an objective news

source anymore? I don't really watch Philip DeFranco's stuff. My opinion of him now is that he probably just hired someone to do all the news reporting for him and he probably

just reads the copy. Like, I don't see him as somebody who actually reads the news. He only struck me as entertainer first. I've known him since 2006 when he was Sexy Phil.

S-X-E Phil. McCarthy 86 says, Luff means run in German. Great name for when you're running for Congress. Laufen. In my Swiss dialect, it's Lauf. Lauf. Lauf.

Oh, that's awesome. Dragon Lady says, Tim's right. My ex was a cop. He came home one day and cried in my arms for hours because he almost shot a 16-year-old who refused to drop what looked like a gun. We don't hear those stories.

Awful. Yeah. Dan N says n says cops are not criminals yeah no joey martina says defund the police and the atf is screwed the government will screech to a halt what the squad doesn't understand is some of us were built for war welcome to america bro law and order is such a great idea and there are many shows about it yeah law and order that's a great show they're doing a new one with chris maloney oh yeah it's uh organized crime i'm excited for that sounds fun i'm surprised law and order hasn't been kicked off of canceled yeah right

i mean have you ever seen svu yeah stabler chris chris maloney's character is like a bad cop he's not a good cop he's a good dude you can understand him that he wants to do good but he like routinely violates people's rights in that show it's brutal show wandering mage says tim i agree with you about moving away from cities i disagree with the idea that people can't afford to be like these migrants better to be poor in a place safe from riots and gangs and find a new life. I think the goal is to replace cops with feds. That's what a lot of people are saying. Probably going to happen.

All right. Colt Seaman says, through all of this BS with the trial and the hypocrisy of the left, my dad realized that him and Ian have the same button-up shirt. Looking stylish, everyone. And did you hear YouTube CEO Susan won a free speech award? She won it from an organization she sponsored. We didn't mention that last night. I'd like to give a special shout out to your dad. Great taste in shirts.

I think this is a gift from Tim or something. That shirt just showed up in my closet someday. I don't know if it was a gift. Not for me. Magical shirt. Del Fuego says, do any of you guys have any recommendations on audio books about U.S. history? Love you all, especially Ian. Oh, that's great.

I love Dan Carlin. He's not an audio book. He's a podcast. He's fantastic. Oh, The Great War. It's not really U.S. history. There's a YouTube channel called The Great War, and it was like the 100-year anniversary of World War I. And every week, they would make a video about what happened that week.

Very cool. Oh, that's really cool. it's not at all american history but all right ash janova says thanks catalina for pointing out the hypocrisy of those who refuse to acknowledge what officers go through you can have issues with policing and want reform without dehumanizing an entire profession yeah it's true i mean it's sad all right angry waffle too says i want to say the jury is cowards but i'm also sitting on 19k doge still on robin hood because i don't want to close my account and be inconvenienced i'm also trying to avoid short term short-term gains tax though oh there you go handyman says the jurors were chosen, but not for their heroism, Tim. That's true. I see that.

Yep. Team N Ontario says, Ian and Tim, do you two ever play golf, disc golf more specifically? Whatever land you have may be a fun disc golf course in order. Yeah, we should shut that up. I would do that. That'd be fun. Yeah, we should build that. That's a great idea.

Blake Larum says, as a country, we need an influx influx of young principled and energetic politicians to move the country forward there are too many lifelong politicians that keep getting elected for no apparent reason it seems catalina is a step in the right direction oh thank you on both sides what do you think about term limits oh gosh huge proponent term limits and somebody needs to actually have a backbone and push it through and champion it because I think that's a big problem. We have too many people on both sides of the aisle that have been there for way too long. I mean, you're a career politician.

Why do you have a career out of this? Go do something else. Let other people step up and solve problems. And, you know, it's mind-blowing to me why people are in office for 30 years and we're all okay and just sit around and we're like oh it's fine keep voting for them yeah what we got a a decent super chat um from somebody who is criticizing me but giving me lots of money so thank you says you're an idiot tim you don't know what us minnesotans most not in the greater nine-county metro area,

don't live in. We're trying, especially us first responders. They're 51% vote for everything. The rest of us are trying to fix things. Yeah. I can see it. You're not an idiot, Tim. Well, people are allowed to criticize me.

It's true. Salty Kraken says, and I will read those. Tim, you're advocating for what the left wants. Demoralization, then destabilization. If the cops leave, it becomes a cascading failure and Marxists win. I do not believe so. I believe if they keep waiting,

then the regular people become demoralized thinking the police are ineffective and can't get anything done when in fact it's the DAs. If the police leave very, very quickly, it'll be a shock to the system that will force people to be like whoa so what's going to happen is there's going to be a very very long drawn out period which we're in where the police refuse to to uh walk away and then the people will be like the cops are here though and everything's getting worse

and then there's nothing. Then within a year, the cops are just considered nothing, get disbanded. I also wonder, from a internal political leadership perspective too, what do the higher-ups say in these situations? Are they, I wouldn't necessarily say this particular case,

but across the country, how are they either advocating for their officers or not advocating and trying to kind of save face in a lot of ways too from a PR perspective? I think that's another angle that people kind of miss as well. That's a good point. I'm concerned that what's going to end up happening is that each cop is going to face an instance like this and they're just going to be dragged out and like tart and feather just like chauvin was and it's going to have to be on a case-by-case basis if they don't quit in mass like this

david little says tim you are wrong not everyone voted for these clowns all the citizens have rights not just the majority here here i i agree but i i think at a certain point like i've, if your house is on fire, I don't know. Yeah. I think your shock to the system is an interesting concept. It's frogs boiling. If the fire turns up to 10, the frogs immediately get shocked and jump out of the water. If they sit there as the water slowly boils, they just die because they don't realize the temperature is increasing.

Yeah. I don't realize the temperature is increasing. Yeah. I don't know. Alan Jin says, Ian always has this problem. He wants people to live how he wants. But then he gets mad and acts like he is some free thinker when you call him on it. Ian, you're a stone authoritarian. Recognize this. I like that conversation, actually.

Because if I am, I need to see that. But Max Henry says, I agree with Ian. what tim is describing is tyranny of the majority a community should not be able to restrict the rights of the individual i agree with that interesting okay um i can't read zoo zoo lickle says do you ever call the cable company to tell them they're doing a good job or just when they mess up? Now do police. Keep up the good work, Tim Cascrew. That's the same everywhere. I try to leave good reviews.

Yeah, it's like Yelp. A lot of people see negative comments and not enough good ones. We'll take a couple more, but this is a good one. Waffle Sensei says, Tim is defending these cops, but you can't do it all the same way over and over and over again. Got to get a little punk rock about it. Give them what they ask for and be there to help when they get exactly that. When I tweeted, all the cops

should resign, a bunch of conservatives and leftists retweeted it. The leftists were like, yeah, all the cops should quit. And the conservatives were saying, yeah, they should quit to show the, you know, to give the people what they've asked for. I'm not saying the cops should quit. And the conservatives were saying, yeah, they should quit to show the, you know, to give the people what they've asked for. I'm not saying the cops should resign in disgrace. I'm saying they should resign in defiance of a community of political leaders who would sacrifice them to the woke mob while also demanding they sacrifice their lives in the line of duty. These cops go out there expected, as I said, to be doctors, to be psychologists, to be jujitsu experts. They risk dying

when a guy in a car is wanted for aggravated robbery and has a gun. That cop's going to jail now. She's locked up already. Manslaughter charge because a guy who was wanted on an aggravated robbery charge

with a gun jumped in his car resisting arrest. So the politicians go, officer, you might die. There's not the greatest risk of all professions. I think oil, petroleum engineers have a higher risk of death,

but it's a scary job. Now we're also asking that in the event you do fear for your life, we're going to put you in prison. How does that sound? Regarding the girl that shot the dude on the gun chart that was wanted for aggravated murder or aggravated assault, aren't they supposed – if a guy is resisting arrest, jumps in his car and turns to the – aren't they supposed to shoot to kill in that point?

They're entitled to. There's arguments that – Why is she being charged? Exactly. Because the politicians expect the police to be everything all at once and to be the scapegoat for their problems thank you for the clarification i think a lot of it too though is it's about the divide i mean this is all also about i mean think about how many other situations that these are again very complex think about all these other situations that happen but why was this one

on a mass scale publicized and then our elected the left biden maxine waters again back to that point why this case yeah and it goes into this kind of i think greater division tool um and that's actually i think a little bit more i think that's this that's the scary part is is this public public pressure and politicization of everything for a higher purpose of ultimate division it It empowered people politically. That's what it was about. All right, let's do one more Super Chat. We got Lumberjack Darrow says, this is for you, Ian.

I agree with your sentiments tonight, your neighbor from the North. Hello, sir. All right, we'll do two more Super Chats. They just popped up and they're short. Jeff D says, I'm joining TimCast. I lost the Kate awakening. What is that?

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