Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #270 - LeBron James Posts Photo Of Cop And Says YOU'RE NEXT w/Charlie LeDuff
Episode Date: April 22, 2021Tim, Ian, and Lydia join award-winning reporter Charlie LeDuff to discuss LeBron James' call for 'accountability' for police with a tweet about the officer involved in the life-saving shooting of a yo...ung black girl, Jack Posobiec's take on the tweet, and the sleazy dealings of Governor Whitmer of Michigan and her forbidden travels. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The riots in this country have been pretty bad. They've been going on for quite a long time.
There was a lull in winter, as there usually is because people don't go out when it's cold and snowy.
Now things are starting to kick up a bit earlier than they did last year and the years before.
If you've been covering riots, if you're a journalist who knows this, you know that there really is like a season
for when the riots come out in the summer, when it's warm.
And there's also, interestingly, a season for a lot of the illegal immigration.
Interestingly, under Joe Biden, we're seeing illegal immigration come sooner.
And we're also seeing the riot start sooner.
I don't necessarily know what that means, but I can tell you.
Mainstream politicians and personalities are absolutely doing everything in their power
to make it worse.
We had Maxine Waters come out and say, get more confrontational.
A lot of people felt like that was jury intimidation.
Now we got LeBron James putting out a tweet saying, you're next, and posting a photo of
a cop.
He deleted this.
But now it's triggering, again, all sorts of controversy.
Jack Posobiec over at OAN apparently is calling for a boycott of Space Jam.
I think the story together is kind of funny to talk about because it kind of meshes into
the cultural issues that are going on today.
So we're going to talk about that issue.
We're going to talk about, you know,
Black Lives Matter showing up in New York,
threatening, strangely, a white guy
protesting for Black Lives Matter,
threatening another white guy.
It's kind of weird.
But we also got some big news
about Gretchen Whitmer,
who got busted flying to Florida.
She's also being sued over,
well, in relation to
what happened with these nursing homes.
A lot of people right now are really upset.
It seems like Andrew Cuomo got away with the nursing home deaths.
Well, fortunately for us, we have one of the last remaining journalists on the planet, the legendary Charlie LaDuff, hanging out in studio.
How's it going, man?
Do you want to introduce yourself?
No.
So you basically are doing this reporting on Gretchen Whitmer.
You're calling her out for all this corruption.
I won't say corruption.
I just want the truth.
Yeah.
You knew Cuomo wasn't going to get rung up.
This is just politics.
Everything's a show.
It's a cycle.
It's a cycle.
Whitmer copied everything Cuomo did.
We took, oh, look, this is what we know about COVID, everybody out there.
The institutionalized elderly got wiped out.
Yeah.
And that's where the government is supposed to be looking out.
And if I can't get clear data from my governor who copied the governor of New York and we found out he was smoking the data, then, yeah, we're going to court.
It's not corruption.
This is about how we all live.
You might be in an old folks home.
You might be in an old folks home.
I might be.
What about the people in there now?
What are we supposed to be doing with all these cameras?
We're supposed to be doing something that rights the community,
that gets this thing back on track.
That's why I said you're one of the last journalists, bro. And what is this bug sitting here? that writes the community, that gets this thing back on track.
That's why I said you're one of the last journalists, bro.
And what is this bug sitting here?
That's a stink bug.
You got a stink bug.
But this is... Hippie compound you got here.
I got stink bugs.
Oh, this is the pet.
No, it's just a stink bug.
They're everywhere.
I think he's dead.
He's hanging out.
So we're going to talk about all this stuff.
And you have a bunch of really, really famous
viral reports that you've done in the past.
A lot of people are mentioning they're familiar with your work, but just hearing you talk about this stuff.
Journalists today, man, they are – what's the right word?
Stenographers for the state.
They just – whatever the governor says is true.
The FBI comes out with a statement.
They're like, you got it.
They don't do investigation.
They don't report.
They're just stenographers.
We'll get into all this stuff, so I'm glad to have you.
We got Ian Eastchill.
Yo, what up, everybody?
Ian Crossland in the house.
That's Ian Crossland.
Good to be here.
Yeah, yeah.
And me in the corner pushing buttons.
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and they're invasive.
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But they're really dopey.
They are from China, aren't they?
I don't recognize them
from my childhood.
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They were introduced
to Pennsylvania
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Somehow.
I don't know how they arrived
but then they became
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Yes, it is.
So everybody knows
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Hold on a second.
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review. We really appreciate it. Let's talk about what's going on with LeBron James. This guy's
causing controversy. He tweets, then deletes,
call for accountability
in the shooting death
of Columbus 16-year-old
Micaiah Bryant.
James tweeted,
then deleted a picture
Wednesday afternoon
of the police officer
who was believed
to have fatally shot Bryant,
writing,
you're next.
Accountability.
The problem,
well, I'll read a little bit more.
They say less than 24 hours
after he tweeted accountability
following former Minneapolis officer Derek Chauvin being found guilty, LeBron James took
to social media again to call for accountability in the shooting of a 16-year-old girl in an
out-deleted tweet. Micaiah Bryant, a young black girl, was shot and killed by a Columbus
police officer Tuesday while yielding a knife and reportedly attempting to stab another
female. Bryant's death has since sparked national outrage. I got to stop here and just give my respect to these journalists who literally have a video of the woman shoving, of the 16-year-old girl shoving a woman against a car, taking the knife and pulling it back and then thrusting forward.
And they say reportedly attempting to stab.
Wielding.
It should be wielding.
Is this yielding?
Yeah, what the heck?
Copy editor.
They messed that up.
Yielding a knife? Does that make sense? I thought you just. Yielding a It should be wielding. It says yielding? Yeah, what the heck? Copy editor. They messed that up. Yielding a knife?
Does that make sense?
I thought maybe you went to public school like me and you just read it wrong?
Read it wrong.
I didn't go to high school.
I was going to say something too.
No, it says yielding.
Yeah, it does.
Did you say yielding?
Are you implying that the author Hope Sloop from WKYC went to public school as well?
Okay, well, quickly, how do you spell yielding?
Y-I-E-L-D-I-E.
Are you sure it's not Y-E-I?
It's Y-I-E.
Okay, is there any shame?
In spelling it wrong?
Yeah.
Not really, I don't know.
Exactly.
See the copy.
Spelling it wrong, no, but if you write a completely different word than what you meant
to write, that's a little different.
Right, right, right.
It's okay not to know nine times six, except if you're counting other people's money.
That's right.
So when you're on the block and you're facing that, why doesn't LeBron James shut up?
Why didn't the media shut up?
Why didn't the country shut up?
And why don't we move forward in a process where we're not going to blow each other up?
I wish, man.
This is not entertainment.
This is killing us.
Yeah.
Why is LeBron James?
You know, the problem I have is this dude, when all this China stuff is going down, Hong Kong,
the NBA takes a side of China over the protesters in Hong Kong demanding freedom, liberty, respect.
So this guy now has the nerve to come out, and it's just like, I don't know, man.
He's just another – look, if you take it out the fact that it's LeBron James, he's just another dude with Twitter.
Right?
But it is LeBron James.
And even LeBron James, if we could dial it now, he understands what he did.
That's why I deleted it.
Well, and that's – maybe we give him some credit. LeBron J, if we could dial it down, he understands what he did. That's why I deleted it.
Well, and that's – maybe we give him some credit.
Yeah.
Like maybe I went too crazy there.
Maybe we should calm down.
I just – I don't want any war.
You know what the problem is though, man?
The reason he says things like this – I know he deleted it. That's true.
So fine.
I respect for deleting it.
For sure, right thing to do.
Maybe he could say, you know, I went too far. I would do it. But for deleting it. For sure. Right thing to do. Maybe he could say, I went too far.
I would do it.
But I made mistakes.
But look what's happening now in the wake of the guilty verdict for Derek Chauvin.
Which was correct.
You think the verdict was correct?
Guilty on all charges?
Yeah.
I don't think so.
I think it was.
Guilty on all charges.
I'm not going to hate you, but it looked like murder to me, dude.
Yeah, but second degree murder?
Like manslaughter, I understand.
You know what I mean?
I say you could make an argument for manslaughter.
Well, first-degree murder is premeditated.
Second is you did it and you knew you were going to do it.
Or you assaulted someone and they died.
And manslaughter is an accident.
Right.
Okay.
And third-degree murder is like you're acting in a depraved, negligent manner that results in death.
It didn't look like an accident, and it didn't look like he meant to do it when he got up in bed.
So what's in the middle? Second degree.
If we all believe in our process,
if we love
this country, and those are the rules...
Oh, this guy
just spilled beer on the computer.
Don't tell him it's beer!
Would it make it worse if it was water?
Probably got to get that off the computer
before you blow it up.
My problem with that Chauvin thing is that when it came out that he was high,
that Floyd was high on fentanyl and methamphetamine,
and that he may have died from heart cardiac arrest,
that maybe the cop wasn't responsible.
Not only that, but the prosecution's own witness said that Chauvin
was legally allowed to use a taser
and chose not to. So I was questioning whether
or not, like I have reasonable doubt
that, did the cop being there
do it, or was he so stressed that
he would have died on the spot anyway?
I would say, reasonably.
Again, check this out.
I can do that. The second degree
murder charge was the felony murder rule. That if you commit felony assault against somebody and they die, you get charged with second-degree murder.
Derek Chauvin was convicted under the premise that his detaining of George Floyd was felony assault on George Floyd.
Okay, that's – see, you're too smart for me.
I mean, you're really paying attention to this.
Well, we – See, you're too smart for me. I mean, you're really paying attention to this.
All I know is I saw a dude, and I don't know about you guys.
I've had my ass beat by the police because that's where I come from, right?
I saw a dude acting in a crazy, irrational manner.
That's usually when police show up.
But I don't expect him to be dead at the end of it.
And sometimes it does happen. But I'm looking at nine minutes of a guy crying for his mama.
Get off his neck.
And he did.
Yeah, well, he's dead.
So this is the thing.
I think a lot of people, like I followed the trial.
I watched the trial.
Most people probably didn't.
Derek Chauvin's knee was not consistently on Floyd's neck.
Chauvin should have spoke for himself.
Yeah.
Like, I lost it.
I blanked out.
I have stress.
You know, you should have said something for yourself.
Got a constitutional right to the Fifth Amendment.
You absolutely do.
And you decided to take that.
And now.
I thought you said a really interesting thing.
Now, he was going to jail no matter what.
And this is the point.
Prison.
Prison.
Prison, right.
Prison.
For life.
For the rest of his life.
So it's not a life conviction, but all the years combined.
LeBron James tweeting this, right?
We have a whole bunch of left-wing activists saying in no uncertain terms,
the only reason Chauvin was convicted is because they burned the city down.
That's not justice.
No, it's dumb ass to burn the city down.
But they did.
Figuratively, they burned down a bunch of different buildings in the city
and smashed a bunch of windows.
Whenever you say they burned the city down,
you get all these journalists being like,
false, Minneapolis is still a city.
It still exists.
Did we mean they burned down a bunch of buildings?
Calm down.
You wanted to say, brother?
Yeah, you said earlier that this isn't entertainment, man.
People are treating this like reality TV, and it's destroying people.
It's making people, they're forgetting that it's real life.
No, they live on the internet, bro.
It's so easy.
That's true, right?
But there's a swath of America where it's really important, whether it be black America or blue america and all in between to some people
it's really serious to too many of us it's a ratings grab and i don't want to be that guy
i want to be the guy that tries to bring something some you used to work at the new
york times and where else fox and were you the kind of guy that chased ratings in the beginning of your career?
I've never chased ratings.
Never.
I just figured if you did go work, it would do what it would do.
And mostly, journalism, right, doesn't get any ratings.
So you don't have to worry about it.
You can just be in the crowd with everybody.
That all changed, though, in the past several years.
Yeah, but now tell me, you might get ratings, but who's doing anything that lasts?
Look at anything we're talking about, anything we're watching.
Tell me, you out there, any of this stuff, are you going to show your grandchildren?
One thing you're going to put in your drawer and go, I was alive.
Dude, dude, dude.
The likelihood that any of these journalists,
I'm doing air quotes,
would show their grandchildren the things they've done
in terms of their work is laughable.
Yikes.
Could you imagine an 80-year-old guy being like,
come here, little Billy.
This is when I wrote five pictures of Brad Pitt's junk.
I won an internet award for that one.
Oh, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy.
It's going to be in a book.
I met your grandmother when I worked at BuzzFeed.
Here's an article she wrote where she said, Trump is literally worse than Hitler.
I really don't think they're going to be going to their grandkids and being proud of that
stuff.
I got to say, I mean, to make it all about me, my time at the New York Times, my wife
kept everything I wrote and she cut them and she put them in these big, gigantic clip books.
So there's three of these things.
That's what I'm saying.
They're like for my great-grandchildren.
And then all the stuff I wrote for the New York Times was bound in a book, and they translated into Polish, and it's coming out.
So I feel like I just wrote about, you know, nice guy Nick and Easy Eddie and regular people.
And that's the word of the stuff.
If you're doing, what would you call it, like human interest pieces?
All of it.
You take human interest plus news and you wrap it into something that somebody wants to read and is consumable.
This is the thing.
You know, if they were writing articles where it's like Janice's Bakery
won an award, the community is very happy.
I think they'd stink pokest.
Making you feel sick, huh?
If you were in a story that wasn't
particularly globally consequential,
but it was a good story about the community
and about the things going on,
I think that's something you want to show your kids or your grandkids.
But these people at some of these news outlets
writing about Brad Pitt's junk and like – what was there?
One article was written by some feminist.
What did she call it?
It was like guys with tight pants.
You could see their junk.
Yep.
And it was like, look at all these guys in tight pants.
I'm like, congratulations.
That journalism degree is paying off.
But you know the problem is –
Nice guys in tight pants.
But here's the thing.
Journalism has become a ratings industry.
So they want the clicks.
They want the ads. Well, necessarily so a ratings industry. So they want the clicks. They want the ads.
Well, necessarily so because the underpinnings of it have disappeared.
So you now got to give people what they want.
There is a responsibility of people to –
Back in the day, was it like one really wealthy person would subsidize a company to study and report on anything regardless of its popularity or clickbaitiness.
It's a combination of factors.
Marketing was a big play.
So I think – correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know.
Yeah, definitely.
Reuters.
Do you know about the history of Reuters, Thomson Reuters?
No.
My understanding is that the news department was just an advertising for like legal documents
or something.
I don't know the full history, so I'm probably getting it wrong.
But I've been to their headquarters a couple times.
My understanding was that they have a private business,
and the news outlet advertised their business.
So that was a big thing.
These newspapers would sell ads in the papers.
They'd sell the paper itself.
So if you're selling the paper, you're covering your costs.
You're selling ads.
You're making more money.
And the only place to get media was in these papers.
Then you want to sell as many papers as possible. When you're competing with only a small handful of very powerful and big
newspapers in a major city, you got to make sure you're reaching a certain number of people.
So for a period, news outlets were trying to hit the lowest common denominator. That meant the news
coverage was always fairly close to the middle because they didn't want to offend the left. They
didn't want to offend the right. So they had to keep it fairly balanced if they want to maximize
the amount of views they were going to get. Nowadays, you get infinite
choices. You go online, you can get your news from anybody. So now everyone's like, screw it,
let's just go. Give me what I want. They're investors who will invest in a company that
does nothing but crazy far leftist stuff, crazy far right wing stuff. And they're like,
I got my finger in both outlets on making money. i don't care those right exactly exactly you know what i know about reuters when they built the new reuters
building in times square i was there soup to nuts and i did a series of stories on the iron workers
the guys that lay the steel and the mohawk indians have been building the skyscrapers in New York since 1900. Wow, really? And there's a whole sort of book about them.
There's a whole genre about them.
And I took it to them, and I said,
do you know these guys?
Well, that was my grandpa.
Cool.
Well, that was my uncle.
What happened to him?
He fell and he died.
And I wrote the next chapter in that.
So I don't know about Reuters,
but I know that I captured the Mohawk Indians in the next generation.
And that's what I like to do. You know what I think one of the problems with news is it doesn't need to be the biggest story that's going to change the world where you're going to win.
You're going to be put up on stage and everyone's going to cheer for you and clap.
It just has to be good stories, stories that are important for a variety of reasons.
Sometimes they're stories that are uplifting and inspire people.
Sometimes they're calling out bad behavior from politicians, exposing corruption.
Too much of the journalism we have today, you can't even call it journalism.
It's tabloid trash.
It's listicles.
That's why they're coming here.
They'd like to be talked.
Somebody be straight with me.
I'm sure.
Definitely. These hundreds of thousands of people that listen be straight with me. I'm sure. Definitely.
These hundreds of thousands of people that listen, they don't agree with everything you're saying.
No, mostly like it was funny.
We had Will Chamberlain here.
You had Will Chamberlain here?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not Wilt Chamberlain.
Not the stilt.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will Chamberlain.
Oh, Will.
The attorney.
Will Chamberlain.
Yeah, the conservative.
He runs humanevents.com.
He ain't no Will Chamberlain, I'll tell you that right now.
Will Chamberlain.
We disagreed, and everybody in the super chats are like, Tim, you're wrong, Tim, you're wrong, Tim, you're wrong, Will's right.
But I guess so long as – I'll tell you something that people like.
When you brought up your position on Derek Chauvin and then I presented a counterpoint. You said, well, you know more than I do.
That's the kind of attitude people expect from a –
journalists are supposed to have, that if you have an opinion on something,
you're willing to say, okay, well, I'll learn more about it and correct me if I'm wrong.
Who are you calling a journalist?
I'm a reporter, bro.
Reporter.
Honest guy.
You want to know the difference?
Honest guy.
How about that?
What's the difference?
I do my best.
The difference between a journalist and a reporter is a journalist went to Ivy League.
Now, I know I'm going to get that BS from that.
A journalist can type without looking.
Reporters do it with fingers.
A reporter drinks with the public in public.
And a journalist drinks in private with the public official.
That's what they do.
This whole thing about journalism.
You're a reporter.
That's all you are.
Yeah, but these people over at CNN,
they're the ones sitting there.
Oh, those guys.
I mean, look at Cuomo's brother
is Cuomo on CNN.
Fredo?
Fredo?
What a phony.
Dude.
I've been in the basement.
I'm coming up.
I'm coming up.
I've been in the basement.
You were found in the Hamptons on your bicycle.
Your brother's over there writing a book and throwing old people in the nursing homes who infect other old people.
Garbage. Garbage. garbage garbage garbage that's what we
don't need sorry that's my yeah i would 100 agree with everything you just did yes but that's the
point these are journalists they complain every day about the the insults and the threats against
journalists when they're literally the brothers of corrupt government officials who do bits with
giant q-tips instead of actually telling the people and they lie about having did you ever
chris me you i've never seen you on the block you're a rich kid i never saw you do any reporting
did you ever go to a nursing home because i went to the nursing homes and I picked up the dead bodies
with the body collector to get a
look at the nursing homes. Did you?
I mean, you're not demoralized
or do you? I don't know who you are.
I didn't grow up with you. I
didn't. No, he's the guy who covered it up.
Come on, man.
It's not political. It's
fake theater and we don't need
it.
Do some work.
If you got the work, I'll believe you.
If you can present it with some pizzazz, then I like you.
You are preaching to the choir?
Yes.
And they're all cheering for what you're saying.
The media industry in this country is just a bunch of people who are, like I said, what's stenographers for the state?
You got to pay.
You know, if you don't pay,
then you're not going to get the highest quality.
Because to defend the current reporter,
they got him doing 18 things a day.
You know, you are a stenographer.
The governor said this.
You don't even got time to check out what the governor said was right.
Yeah.
You're just pushing it.
I'm against it.
But you do have to assume anything Trump would say was wrong.
Yeah.
That was the other thing.
Trump's a mess.
For sure.
Trump's a mess.
But there's some things he did that were correct.
Like the vaccines here.
But how about, how about for some reason the media always said he was wrong like come on a
broken clock is right twice a day if you're saying he's wrong all the time so we got problems well
the majority of the media did the ones wearing the blue jacket right that's right and then the
ones wearing the red jacket said he could do no wrong what about us who wear the vests we're just
here in the middle they're trying to get along but but they're gone, bro. It's like... No, no.
It's the audience and it's us.
We're not gone. That's true.
We're not. We just want something.
I'll put it this way.
The guys in the red jackets,
you know, they work for
smaller and much less
ubiquitous news
outlets. They're not the prominent mainstream
corporate media in this country. What?
What are you talking about? Fox News?
Fox News is one channel.
You've got CBS, NBC, ABC,
MSNBC, HLN. I didn't say it was...
Everybody knows that...
They're mainstream media for sure.
Reporters are mainly liberal. That's true.
I know. I worked at the New York Times.
But I'm agreeing with you. I voted for Obama twice.
What I'm saying is...
And Ronald Reagan.
You have much fewer of the guys in the red jackets than the guys in the blue jackets.
Yeah, but here's the thing.
How about we take off the jackets and just do what's supposed to be done?
Sometimes the guy in the red jacket's wrong, and you're wearing a red jacket.
That's right.
You're supposed to be wearing a non-collared shirt when you're doing what we're doing.
You're just regular?
Well, now you got to call it as you see it, based in fact.
But check this out.
You got people like Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, and Michael Tracy.
Are you familiar with those guys?
Matt's a friend of mine.
Yeah, exactly.
Those are the legit guys that are wearing the vests.
There's very few people actually doing journalism.
But they're the guys who will come out and say something like,
you know, Trump was right about this, that, and this,
but wrong about all these other things,
and Trump's got attitude problems.
As it should be done.
But why is it when you go to the New York Times,
you go to CNN, they're wearing the blue jackets?
Yeah.
Look, I get it.
I'm not answering for him.
If Fox News is wearing red jackets.
How conspiratorial do we get?
No, no.
No, it's not conspiracy, but it's money.
We're trying to guess who they are.
You know?
Yeah, exactly.
You were at Ground Zero as a security guard.
And I was at Ground Zero as a reporter.
And somewhere in there is the story.
Not so much, you know, the city councilman today said that there's smoke from ground zero.
No, there was rivers of molten steel for months after the building came down underneath the pile.
Just molten steel flowing for months.
Remember that?
I want some physics behind that.
Did you ever see a doorknob?
Did you ever see a urinal?
No.
They were vaporized.
Vaporized and dust.
Not to hijack your show.
No.
It means a lot to me.
I'm older.
It's the 20-year anniversary of 9-11.
And if you could maybe throughout the summer think about it,
read something about it, remember some of the names,
that would be cool because we're going to get it for, again, the media.
We're going to get it for one day, the big
ribbon-cutting and parading speech.
It's so much more than that. It's all
of us regular people. That was our
day. Those who died, the
secretaries, and those that came to
pick them up. The firemen,
the cops, the regular dudes with long
hair, just guys from Queens trying to do right.
Remember that.
Now think about this.
Somebody today who's 26 years old doesn't remember any of it.
No, I know.
They're a little kid.
That's cool.
But now they're reporters for these news outlets.
They don't get it.
They don't understand.
You know what they do?
That's funny.
They compare COVID to 9-11.
COVID's a natural occurrence until we find out about the chinese lab 9-11 was mass murder and then it launched a bunch of bad stuff and a bunch of
bad mistakes and we're still in afghanistan that is a whole different deal so remember young people
well so this is one of the big issues affecting journalism today.
And people are starting to finally get it because I'm wondering.
We had this lefty guy on the show.
What's his name?
Vosh.
Is he all right?
Well, I completely disagree with a lot of his opinions.
Did he have a tail?
Did what?
Did he have a tail?
No, he's a normal guy.
He was a normal guy.
All right, Vosh.
He's good.
He's good.
We had a normal guy. He was a normal guy. Yeah. All right, Bosh. He's good. He's good. We had a long argument, and I think one of the important things that came up was like
when I would reference Occupy Wall Street, he was like, oh, I was a teenager.
I don't remember any of that.
That was brilliant, by the way.
What was?
Occupy Wall Street.
Oh, yeah.
So look, I'm down there, and I'm in my 20s.
It's brilliant.
Brilliant coverage.
I remember all this stuff.
He was a teenager who wasn't paying attention to politics.
So what happens when you get somebody who doesn't understand the financial crisis, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, 9-11, and now their prominent media personalities influencing more young people?
It's no surprise you have a lot of young people who have a particular political persuasion, and they're all kind of in agreement with each other around the same age because they don't remember the same things we remember.
They don't remember what Joe Biden did or Barack Obama did during those years.
No offense to them.
So when I, right, right.
So when I'm like, here's what I don't like Joe Biden.
And I'll reference maybe like the extra, extra judicial assassinations that Obama carried
out.
I mean, the killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki is two very prominent, notable
instances.
They don't remember that.
They were like, I was 13.
I have no idea.
One of the most important parts is, is, is witnessing the militarization of the United States after 9-11.
Like, 1998, we were not a military.
Dude, dude, you could go into an airport.
You could stand at the gate and wait for your family to come out.
And we weren't at war.
It was crazy, dude.
And then after 2002, now I think they can drone bomb any American citizen at any time with the Patriot Act legally.
It's insanity.
It's called extrajudicial assassination.
There will be no Che Guevara anymore.
There won't.
That revolution business is over.
It is because we have drones.
We got all facial recognition.
So you can go downtown and burn stuff up.
You can go to the Capitol and break shit.
They'll find you.
I can't swear.
He's trying.
I appreciate that.
And you can do that baboonery at the Capitol, but it's not getting us anywhere.
Don't do those things.
But I think to your point, we saw a year of people going and burning down buildings across this country.
And tearing up the Capitol.
But tearing up the Capitol, those people have the FBI putting up billboards, the FBI saying, find out who they are.
They're going through facial recognition.
They're finding each and every single person.
Because that's the Capitol.
That's right. That's right.
That's different.
Gucci store is different to me than the Capitol.
Well, no, but they firebombed federal buildings.
They were throwing explosives at federal buildings.
Oh, I'm sure they're getting them.
I know they got a few.
They cut them loose.
The prosecutor in Portland cut off, I think it was like four felony charges for firebombing.
I don't know the specific charges, but something related to that.
One was felony assault on an officer.
So these people, they caught, they arrested, they charged.
And then as soon as Biden got in, the prosecutor was like, all right, you're free to go.
Well, I like Portland.
I do.
I really like it a lot, my kind of people.
But if this is what you're wanting, beware.
That's my attitude.
I'm like, I don't live in Portland.
So at this point, I can complain about the double standard for sure.
We all can.
If they're only going after one group of people and they're ignoring other group of people,
it's like we got to have equality under the law.
But I'll tell you this right now.
My attitude on the police at this point, if people voted for abolishing the police and
all of our arguments fell flat.
Nobody's doing that.
Minneapolis did.
It's more Tweety stuff.
No, no, no, no.
Minneapolis literally voted to abolish the police.
When was that?
End of fall of last year.
Yeah, and then they backed off it.
But they already lost a bunch of the officers.
I know.
Then they started dumping money to try and get them back.
Exactly.
Now they're arresting and charging the cops.
You see the Kim Potter thing, right?
Why'd he get a name drop?
Kim Potter. Shout out to Kim Potter. You know the Kim Potter thing, right? Why'd he get a name drop?
Kim Potter?
Shout out to Kim Potter.
You know the shooting with Dante, right?
Yes.
Oh, yes, yes.
There's so many of them.
The taser.
Right, right, right.
So let's go through this real quick.
This guy's wanted for aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon.
That's what aggravated robbery is, right? He had a Ruger.45.
He gets pulled over. Yeah, he's got a warrant on it because he was carrying
a piece. No, he had a warrant for
robbing a woman at gunpoint. Right.
So now, they also had a
gross misdemeanor warrant for his gun.
So the question is, once again, there's a warrant
out for him
robbing somebody with a weapon.
So what, he made bail?
No. He skipped the...
So he made bail?
No, no, no, no, no.
He threatened this woman,
and then he fled.
She called the police.
They should have warranted for his arrest.
Okay.
He skipped bail on the gun charge.
So he didn't...
I don't think he realized...
So he never was bailed.
He was never arrested in the first place.
He had a warrant for that crime.
There was a warrant.
Okay.
So he gets pulled over,
and I think he didn't realize.
So when they were, like, out of the car, he says, for what, according to his mom.
They get him out of the car.
They cuff him, and then he starts resisting.
He pulls off, dives into the car, and then they're wrestling with him.
And then the cop, Kim Potter, says, taser, taser, taser.
She's holding her gun, though.
The cop moves.
She fires one shot into Dante Wright.
He drives off.
The bullet kills him.
He crashes.
He dies.
Is it justified to use deadly force against somebody who's wanted for an aggravated robbery charge,
who was previously known to be in possession of a Ruger 45,
who resists arrest, jumps into their car, and starts reaching for something or doing something out of sight?
Should the officer then defend themselves and the lives of others? You want me to play God here? Again, that's why
we have a process. Now, I've got the basics and I saw some video. I can't be that guy. I will tell
you what I do know about life. I know that a cop pulls him over and says he's wanted on a gun charge. So immediately they think he's got some proclivity maybe to be on the lookout.
They're talking they want to arrest him.
He dives in a car.
Immediately, well, I'm leaning.
Immediately, the cop's already on high alert.
I don't know what you're reaching for.
Who the hell dives into a car?
I don't dive into a car.
I get pulled over.
I'm not the darkest guy.
My hands are here.
Yep.
Okay.
I know what's going on in America.
I don't dive in a car.
I don't know, but I know cops repetitively pull their firearm.
They don't pull taser.
They don't practice that much with taser.
But again, it tells me, maybe,
sitting on my couch,
she's not the most
seasoned person on the street.
See what I'm saying?
I think people...
I don't want to burn
and I don't want to fight.
But I will.
So here's the issue.
There's no easy answer to these things.
So why are we trying to get one?
Why are we doing that?
In what way would you mean?
So what do I think of it?
I think it's confusing, and we've got to let it.
It was right next to Minneapolis where the trial's going on.
It's high alert.
The point is, so long as they keep burning cities down.
Nothing burned, though, this time.
Nothing burned.
In Brooklyn Center, they smashed up a bunch of windows.
They smashed.
They smashed.
And one of the jurors in the Chauvin trial lived there, and they had to drive through a city full of boarded-up windows.
Maxine Waters said, if we don't get our conviction.
Unfortunately.
And they weren't sequestered for that.
That one was crazy.
So listen, how are we supposed to have the law enforced if you got some guy who threatens
a woman at gunpoint for eight hundred dollars cash and then should the cops go and arrest this
person i'm not i'm not asking you i'm saying rhetorically my my position is well yeah we can't
have people going around doing that if the person that resists arrest and jumps into their car should
the officer then just submit
and be like, no, I might get shot, I guess?
Or do we ask...
That's my point. So at this
point, I think the only reasonable solution
for cops and for the people in the cities is to
leave. Because if you live in an
area where this kind of stuff is happening, between riots...
Look, if you think cops killing people
is a problem, and the cops
are now going to get arrested in any instance where there's a police involved shooting like so so going back real quick
to the lebron james thing this 16 year old girl who got shot was literally pulling the knife back
ready to shoot or ready to stab somebody and the cop shot her in defense of another woman
and the people there immediately got mad at the cop and called him a murderer i don't see it i
don't see how you could be a smart person and think staying on the job makes sense when everybody wants you to leave.
Regardless of whether or not you or I or anyone thinks it's right or wrong, cops probably shouldn't be doing any of it.
If people say you're a murderer for trying to arrest someone for aggravated robbery, maybe you should stop doing that because the court of public opinion is clearly not on your side and you're going to go to prison.
I will say two things. Maybe you should stop doing that because the court of public opinion is clearly not on your side and you're going to go to prison.
I will say two things.
LeBron James is wrong.
He knew he was wrong.
And I'm going to cut him some break here so the man can grow.
Because, again, I don't want to fight more than we already are.
Two, we do have a problem with police.
I don't.
It's not a majority of police.
We have a problem.
We got to fix it.
Then I'll say this.
I know the measurements.
But half of all people that died at the hands of cops. Are white.
It's like 61% I think isn't it? 61%. I could be wrong. 60% hands of cops are white. It's like 61%, I think, isn't it?
61%
I could be wrong.
60% of the country is white.
20% is Latino and 12% is black.
50% of the deaths by cops are white.
20% of the deaths of Latinos and 30% are black.
So the Latinos are dropped by their proportion, the whites almost, and the blacks two and a half are black. So the Latinos are dropped by their proportion,
the whites almost,
and the blacks two and a half times more.
There's a lot underlying that problem.
I would submit this to you.
What kind of Latino people,
what kind of white people,
it's a class issue.
Yes, it is.
Completely agree.
Studies show you the less bread you got, the more rowdy
you are. If you're from
my corner of the world, that's what we
do. We party. When you get
loud and rowdy, the police show up.
I'm not diminishing
a traffic stop. I'm not
diminishing what happened
with George Floyd. Oh, no,
no, that's murder. I said it. Straight up.
I think Chauvin got what he deserved.
But if we could come together,
because remember the rednecks at the Capitol,
what were they doing?
If the police pick, right?
They really showed what they thought
about law enforcement.
But you know why that was?
I don't, I wasn't there.
Well, so we have this year of lockdowns where small businesses have cops show up,
barricade the doors, arrest people, beat people, arrest families for violating COVID restrictions.
And then you started seeing these conservatives, these right-wing individuals,
throwing the Blue Lives Matter flag in the dirt, stepping on it.
Were those conservatives?
Yes. Oh, no, no, those on it. Were those conservatives? Yes.
Oh, no, no, those weren't.
Yep, they were.
Those were a-holes, dude.
Throwing the Blue Lives Matter.
Really?
Like, I was locked up and I'm angry?
Well, are we asking people
to have some personal responsibility?
And aren't they included?
Oh, no way.
No, no, no, no, no, man.
When they shut down...
Maybe I'm a misunderstanding.
When they locked down churches and sent the cops in New York to go arrest Jewish people and weld only the Jewish parts shut.
Another problem.
You got people coming out saying the cops were disproportionately enforcing unconstitutional restrictions.
And even when you get the courts telling Cuomo, telling Whitmer, telling Wolf and PA to stop doing this, they would say, I'll just do a new executive order.
You can't stop me.
So at a certain point, the people on the right were like, yo, cops, why are you enforcing what the courts have already said no to?
And so they start throwing the below those matter flags in the dirt.
Then when it comes down to January 6th, these people have no respect for cops.
They don't care.
Well, you know, because I know a lot of cops.
Cops treated me well during COVID.
Cops went to work.
In fact,
here's where it's at
as I see it as a reporter
and as a man and a citizen.
The only government
that even responds to you
anymore in this country
is the police
or the paramedic or the firefighter.
Do me a favor right now.
Everybody call your congressperson.
See if you get a call back.
Call your mayor.
Call your city council person.
They only come calling on election season.
So we've asked the people, I don't know where you're from,
but of my class, the paramedics, the cops, the firemen,
to do all the work of the government, which is of the high class, and they don't answer us.
They just send factories overseas, right?
They give their nieces jobs, and we're over here with our pants around our ankles.
Our restaurants are closed, and you can't explain.
You're coming into my shul.
You're not letting me go to my mass.
And you don't understand
the problem, amongst other
things. Race is a problem. Everybody knows
that. It's green.
There ain't no green in this country
and we're faking the green now.
We're printing fake green.
That's a whole other worm,
Ken. I mean, talking about inflation, the mass inflation by a bank, by the Federal Reserve.
Ah, he said it.
No oversight.
Everyone take a drink.
I'm just kidding.
Drink responsibly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's got it.
And how that's devaluing our currency, creating more poverty, more class diversity, more stress that's causing – could lead to more unrest.
I mean these people – there's no oversight.
That, I think, is the real issue.
I got to just call out personal responsibility.
If there are cops who want to enforce – look, if you've got people on the right and they're saying,
we don't agree – oh, there he goes.
Oh, snap.
I said Federal Reserve.
What a joint you're running.
If you got –
David Koresh never did it. Oh, snap. I said Federal Reserve. What a joint you're running. If you got...
David Koresh never did it like this, bro.
No.
You got...
So we have Wesleyan Energy Drinks.
Oh, yeah.
So if you got people on the right and they're saying, we don't want the cops to enforce
what the community opposes and the cops say, we don't care.
If there's people who are like, we just want to cut hair and the cops show up to a small
town in Michigan and arrest some dude or give him a fine because he was given haircuts. Yeah, the barber of Owasso.
That's right. You got people on the right saying stop doing this. The cops say shut up, we don't care.
Then why would these people keep supporting the police?
You got a First Amendment right to peaceably assemble.
Let me put it this way. In Detroit,
my capital city, it's the spiritual capital city.
It's the biggest city in Michigan.
I know Lansing's the capital, but Detroit is the capital.
A cop that starts that job.
Ready?
Drum roll.
You got it.
Lightly on the table.
$38,000.
Wow.
America's most violent city.
$38,000.
Who in their right mind would do that?
We defunded the police in Detroit when we did the bankruptcy.
We took their salary.
We took a piece of their pension.
We took their medical when they retired.
So if you want good police, you got to pay.
And we need police.
You need high caliber people.
You need to pay for mental health for them.
Yes.
Do they go see me?
Does any community around here require the police to go see a counselor?
Just get it off your chest.
It's hard.
Benefits.
We don't have anything.
Get used to it.
Watch.
I suspect things are going to get worse.
Something like 260 police departments got defunded last year.
Or less funded.
They got their funding removed.
Completely removed.
Yeah.
Well, no, no, no.
Defunded meaning that they were taking portions of their budget away.
Like NYPD lost, I think, like a billion, like 20-something percent of their budget.
Yeah.
This was predominantly progressives calling for defunding the police.
Maybe it's because we don't have tax revenue could it be a sleight of hand we're playing the
political game and yet we're broke because look at the look at the federal government yeah where's
it putting that money what did we just print in the last year why is there such a thing as a black
trillion or something 40 percent of all currency out there was made in the last year.
The charts look insane.
Well, we must not be depressed.
We must be educated and right on.
And we must figure out a way to respect each other, come together.
I know this sounds like a sermon.
But I do believe that good reporting can give a good reflection of what's happening to us.
How do you deal with a multi-billion dollar news industry that makes their money off inflaming tensions between political factions, between classes, between races?
I left.
I don't know what you're doing.
I left, yeah. We started our own thing. I don't know what you're doing. I left, yeah. We started
our own thing. I guess that's what you do.
No BS News Hour.
That's your show? Yeah.
I guess that's what you gotta do.
Thanks for the plug. Oh, yeah, yeah.
We'll shout it out much, much more, too. That's a good way. Become an example
of another
option.
You wanna go
run a John real quick?
Yeah. Go to it. We'll talk about Jack Posob go run a John real quick? Yeah.
Go to it.
We'll talk about Jack Posobiec in Space Jam.
I might sneak a cigarette
with your hippies down
there.
I will try and go quick.
Shout out to Jack
Posobiec who turned me
on to putting coffee
peanut butter powder in
my coffee.
Brilliant.
Thanks Jack.
Peanut butter powder?
Brilliant.
Yeah.
Have you got that
peanut butter powder?
A scoop of that?
He's a pioneer.
We got the story on Jack Posobiec thanks poso bounding into comics reports oan
host jack posobic calls for boycott of space jam a new legacy after lebron james threatened police
i don't know if he's serious which is funny funny. I think he's joking. But I love how these tweets just end up getting news coverage.
So Peace Promoter Poso is his name.
Boycott Space Jam.
LeBron threatens police.
All right.
The call to boycott the film comes after James posted a photo of a cop on Twitter.
He captioned the photo writing, You're next.
Accountability.
Yikes.
James did delete his tweet.
As Pacific points out, he writes, Hi, LeBronikes. James did delete his tweet, as Posobiec points out.
He writes, hi, LeBron James.
Why did you delete this?
The photos of offers and Nicholas Reardon this we get.
All right.
Okay.
Space Jam, a new legacy, is being distributed by AT&T and Warner Brothers.
Blah, blah, blah.
Do plan on taking up Posobiec's call and boycotting Space Jam, a new legacy, after LeBron James threatened a Columbus police officer who prevented a stabbing.
I'm assuming they meant to say, do you plan to?
Right.
I just read the articles as they're presented.
Jeez, copy editing.
Yeah, seriously.
Give me a break.
I didn't even know there was a Space Jam happening.
This is the first I've heard of it.
I don't want to watch it anyway.
What is it, a remake?
Wait, hold on.
I'm going to pretend I want to watch it
and say I'm boycotting it.
There you go.
I do want to watch Space Jam.
I love the OG Space Jam.
I'm a huge fan of it, actually.
Actually, yeah.
No, I had no plan on watching this movie.
Fun show.
Okay, I'm not going to watch it.
I wouldn't have watched it.
I'm not going to watch it.
Although, I think a boycott.
I'm back.
Big fan of Space Jam.
I didn't wash my hands.
That was so fast.
Quick.
Speed is of the essence.
Just protect us.
That's better.
Are you a Space Jam fan?
No, man.
Did you see the first one?
Is that the one with Michael Jordan and Bugs Bunny?
Yeah.
Oh, come on.
Grow up.
That's silly.
So were they remaking the original?
Sorry.
Oh, that's right.
You were children when that came out.
Yeah.
It was good for us.
Well, okay.
Of course you love it.
When this came out, they had the Burger King cups or whatever.
Yeah.
What was it?
They had the glass jar of jam.
Yeah, they did.
Yeah, it was fun.
And I was so excited to go see that in the movies, man.
I think I was like 40 years old.
Yeah, you're like, I don't know.
What year did that come out?
No, you must have been in your 30s.
No, you must have been in your 20s.
93 or something.
Yeah, I was like 94.
94.
I was just at the age where I could realize it was like really cheap
propaganda
they were using
a basketball player to sell a product
he wasn't like a movie
he wasn't a good actor Michael Jordan
you're saying that they put him in a movie
for the sake of selling tickets to a movie
but I thought it was kind of cool
that they took sort of like
the Mary Poppins
model and brought it back with Michael Jordan you take animation But I didn't see the movie. That they took sort of like the Mary Poppins model
and brought it back with Michael Jordan.
You take animation and real people,
because that's not really Who Framed Roger Rabbit was in that time.
That was a good movie.
At least one I remember that being a good movie.
So they reinvented a genre.
So this one is just a, how much money you need?
It was really high budget too.
You know what this is for?
They're trying to target people between my age and Ian's age who have kids who are going to be like,
I remember Space Jam.
I want to take my kids to see Space Jam.
This is an example of cultural decay.
Heavy.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hear me out.
Here come the Visigoths. Name a Christmas song. No, no. Heavy. Hold on, hold on. Hear me out. Hear me out.
Here come the Visigoths.
Name a Christmas song.
Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. Something to the bones.
How old is that?
How old is that song?
About a thousand years old.
Give me a more modern Christmas song.
I'm dreaming.
What year was that song?
Let me finish.
Christmas, 1945.
Yeah. Can you try another more modern christmas song oh uh santa got run over by reindeer what year was that 60s yeah so how come i can keep going
we i think i think the most modern i can think of is All I Want for Christmas is You by Mariah Carey. Yeah, Mariah Carey. I was getting there.
Every song is from the 50s, from the 60s.
Yeah.
Really, really old.
We're not writing new music.
Our movies are regurgitations.
It's not changing.
We're not making new things.
We're not inspiring people.
We are just saying, I'm going to do what I did when I was a kid, again, with my kids.
Instead of, hey, let's write a new concept, a new movie, a new song.
Let's change it up.
We're stagnating.
Exactly.
Our culture is decaying.
When's the last great protest song since Kendrick Lamar?
I mean, we're living in it.
Where's the music, man?
It's too corny and corporate.
Where's the writing, man?
Bro, bro, bro.
When the biggest protest movement.
Where's the art?
It's true. Hold on, hold on.
When the biggest protest movement
is on the same side as Walmart
and Amazon, I don't think those are
protest songs.
I think those are corporate jingles.
Yeah, I wrote a
Christmas song. It's called It's Christmas Time.
It's on YouTube.
That's it. Can you hum a few bars?
It's Christmas time, something, something, something.
You don't even know your own song.
No, no.
I haven't listened to it in like 12 years.
But I wrote it.
It's too, it could be refined.
I'll say this.
I'll say this.
Don't boycott Space Jam because LeBron James tweeted something dumb.
Boycott regurgitations.
Demand something new.
Thank you
Or you know what
Maybe
Check it out
When it comes on Netflix
I'm looking for stuff to watch
It's not going to be on Netflix
No no no
Netflix doesn't do that anymore
Okay
Well I guess it'll come out on Netflix
Maybe check it out
And tell everybody else it sucks
Look I'm a sucker
I still get Kentucky Fried Chicken
I will go to Taco Bell
Wait are they sponsors of the show? No I won't go to Taco. I will go to Taco Bell. Wait, are they sponsors of the show?
No.
I won't go to Taco Bell.
I'll go back to Taco Bell once you sponsor this show.
But I do do that.
I'm not a purist.
Yeah, sometimes you got to use the corrupt system to fix the corrupt system.
I'm part of it, man.
No, no, no.
You're making something new.
You're doing the No BS News Hour.
You got something new.
We're doing something new.
We are going to be funding shows.
We should hook up.
We should, yeah.
You want to do news?
Let me know and we'll get some good news going on.
Yeah.
We're going to do news.
We're going to do shows.
We're going to do comedy.
We're going to do movies.
We're going to do sci-fi.
Because I'm sick and tired of every single thing.
It's been years, man.
Since, what was, you know what?
I like the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the superhero movies.
Yeah, yeah.
But come on, they're just making movies out of comics from 70 years ago.
Yeah.
Yeah, but at least I don't got to read them now.
Sure, sure.
It's a great modern adaptation of something that's really, really old.
At a certain point, Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, and these guys were like, how about a guy who turns green and gets real strong when he's mad?
Well, actually, I think he originally turned gray.
But, you know, you get the point.
How about a guy who can jump over tall buildings and for some reason he has ice breath?
It was they made something up and they worked on it.
It became popular because they worked on it.
Now everybody is just trying to say, I don't want to do the work.
I want what he's got.
Let me inherit your wealth and I'm not going to make something new.
These companies don't want to take the risks.
They don't want to make new exciting things because it's a potential risk.
I got one.
I got one.
Yeah.
Christmas, old movies being made into new movies, old books, right?
Why can't we get a new Ten Commandments?
I'm so down with that.
I like that movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The movie Ten Commandments?
Yeah.
I do.
Charlton Hester?
Charlton Hester.
The Ten Commandments?
Oh, remake. I thought you meant to actually write Ten New Commandments. Oh, yeah. That works, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The movie Ten Commandments? Yeah, I do. Charlton Heston. Charlton Heston. The Ten Commandments. Oh, remake.
I thought you meant to actually write Ten New Commandments.
Oh, yeah.
That works too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is, I think, even more important.
I don't know about that.
We'll discuss later.
The Ten New World Commandments.
Yeah, the Manila Principles.
But why don't they redo the Ten Commandments?
That could be pretty sweet.
I would love to play that role.
You look like you're getting it.
The redoing doom.
Wait, Jesus doesn't come till later.
All right.
Moses is the man.
And listen, I want to ask you something, Jesus.
When did you get white?
It took about 2,000 years from what I heard.
It took the Romans.
Yeah.
That's right.
They're redoing Dune.
Ian's really excited for that.
Oh.
Dune?
Yes.
Dune.
Oh, yeah.
But I heard it might be woke.
Oh, really?
I'm afraid.
I don't know many details.
Dune?
Did you read it?
Dune?
Wait, is that the one?
It was like a famous 80s movie, wasn't it?
Yeah, early 80s.
Lynch did one.
David Lynch did it.
Wasn't it the dude from the police?
I don't know.
Yeah, Sting was in it.
Sting.
Oh, really?
He played Big Flop, right?
He was actually really good in that.
It was a weird Lynch movie, but Sting was awesome in it.
Was it a Big Flop?
It was, yeah.
They did monologues, like long monologologues Which don't translate to film
They're good in theater and in books
They make a lot of sense
They were doing inner monologues
It would just show his face
And he's thinking and you hear his voice
For like three minutes
It's so boring in cinema
They tried to make a book into a movie
Without making it a movie
And then in the 90s they did one with William Hurt
And a Dune made for TV movie, but they translated
all that monologue into dialogue and it made it
way more interesting.
We just need new stuff. That's what we're doing.
Oh, so our vlog got age-restricted.
Yes! What's up with that?
What happened? What?
We made a vlog from the house
showing people the house. Because the point is
one of the things I'm big on is we've got to make culture.
Which means you can't just sit around and complain about politics because politics is downstream from culture.
Right on.
You need to make stuff to inspire people and build community.
And so I'm like, we're going to do that.
We're going to start a vlog.
We started a vlog.
We got this Probea mask on.
Showing them this joint?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we got the ramps.
We got the out garage.
Oh, no.
This place is a trip.
Totally.
You walk in here unexpected.
I walked in today like, what the hell is going on?
It's great.
Everybody's barefoot.
The computer's going up.
They're finding your IPN.
They're doing...
IPN?
They're talking about Dracula.
I mean, it's like, what?
We launched...
They got bows and arrows outside.
We launched race cars
over the garage
going like six miles an hour.
And we put up this vlog
and YouTube age-restricted it.
No, you can't. You can't. You can't. Oh, we're not showing that. No, you can't. It's not real. going like six miles an hour. And we put up this vlog and YouTube age-restricted it.
No, you can't.
You can't.
You can't.
Oh.
Oh, we're not showing that.
No, you can't.
It's not real.
As far as you know, YouTube.
That's right.
It's an antique.
That's not an antique.
What's not an antique? That's real.
What is?
So we have a vlog
that age-restricted it.
And so that's,
I guess,
that's just particularly annoying.
I thought I would mention.
What does that mean exactly?
You have to be signed and an 18 years old to watch the vlog.
And that's because they think.
That's actually kind of cool.
No, it's bad.
It means you can't put on other websites and you can't share it.
Okay, but you're creating a new culture.
So you know what?
If what that vlog is saying is for real, come find it.
Just lean into it.
We can't make it easy for you give some effort that's right
maybe that's why they put a restriction on it because they don't want us to actually influence
people to be free independent thinkers who want to build and create and inspire others that's why
i don't mind people taking to the streets man just don't tear it up i agree man peaceful protest
somebody mess with you drop them i mean i think peaceful be disruptive but not
violent not destructive disruptive means like you kind of annoy people when you're marching down the
street and you're kind of you know in the way a little bit it were it worked with mlk and it worked
with gandhi mlk got things a lot farther than what malcolm x was saying but never doing they
burnt they they set buildings on fire they caused2 billion in damage, and they got their conviction.
Yeah, the insurance company.
You know the old argument.
No, no, no.
The buildings in Minneapolis couldn't be rebuilt
because the cost of rubble removal exceeded the liability insurance coverage.
Well, it's funny.
One of the buildings, I won't name the companies,
but one of the buildings that got torn up got a sweet deal,
a sweet package, sweet tax abatements
and subsidies from the city of Minneapolis to build.
It's a multinational.
Yeah.
Why are we doing that?
How did this happen?
Because they have a mainline to the mayor's ear.
Well, it's become American culture now.
I'll leave if you don't give me your children's breakfast.
You know, my child's school, my child, you know, we do okay.
So my child doesn't get the federal breakfast program.
But I'm an elder.
I'm a man in this community.
I go see what they're feeding the kids.
Generic pot tarts, an orange orange drink our money now i am not i think we all have to feed our children
right i'm not gonna feed your dad for his whole life but the kid ain't going hungry now as long
as i'm living on the earth how is it i pay you reach in my pocket for orange juice it went to
washington it went to lansing it went to Lansing. It went to the school board.
And magically,
my tax money for that child,
the orange juice transmogrified
into orange drink.
Some contract.
Which is like food coloring,
sugar,
and water.
Vitamin C,
so it's okay.
It's not okay.
They were supposed to buy orange juice.
That's what I bought the orange drink instead. Why are we feeding our kids orange drink and generic Pop-Tarts?
When you could be giving them BioTrust.
That's right.
Could you imagine if in hospitals they fed patients healthy food instead of sweet drink?
Think about that.
A hospital, a place of healing, and they feed people the same kind of stuff they feed them in public schools.
Where'd our money go?
There are a lot of rich people eating a lot of fancy meals, I'll tell you that.
A lot of blue coat media sitting down with public officials being stenographers for them and having fancy dinners.
You know what I love about the media that hangs out with the swells?
They think they're a swell.
They also think they're a swell. But you know what I love about the media that hangs out with the swells? They think they're a swell. They also think they're a swell.
But you know what I always say?
You're a hound.
You're a poodle laying at the table waiting for a scrap to fall off.
Ain't nobody listening to you.
Not when the times get real.
You think they are.
Anybody out there reading the local business magazine?
Yeah.
I think just to cycle back,
that the sugar industry is subsidizing the government
in such a way that they're pumping sugar into the schools
and the hospitals and the prisons,
and that's why we see orange drink.
There's some contractor, isn't there?
There's always a contractor.
Let's talk about what's going on with Whitmer.
Yes.
Because let's get into this big thing you're working on.
So we had this story.
We got this one from Click on Detroit.
Michigan Governor Whitmer blasts criticism over visiting sick father in Florida.
State leader reacts to criticism in interview with the Washington Post.
Oh, she runs to the Washington Post.
Right.
They're very favorable towards Democrats.
Click on Detroit.
You didn't cover it.
Sorry, guys.
Are you hearing me?
You didn't cover it.
And then click on his writing.
The governor of Michigan went to the Washington Post.
Yeah.
So what's up with this story?
Apparently she was criticizing people who traveled, criticizing Florida.
Then she goes to Florida. No, we are like ground zero for the United States in raging pandemic cases, COVID cases.
Now, you know, right around Easter, Good Friday, everybody, I'm not going to lock it down again.
And now the date is coming.
I'm not a COVID denialist in any way.
You know, try to be a good boy.
Try to respect my...
He's got his mask.
I caught it.
I'm over it.
That's why I'm not wearing it.
You know, I'm not a freak.
But she says, listen, don't travel to Florida because it's really bad there.
And they got this UK variant, we and they.
And I think maybe we got it from them.
Number one, her chief operating officer, who's in charge of distributing the vaccine, beats it down to Margaritaville.
She's in the siesta key or something like that. And meanwhile, Whitmer's on the day is telling Biden, give us the vaccine, unaware that the COO didn't order the 360,000 vaccines that were waiting for us.
Because she's down in Margaritaville.
Wow.
With the teeny boppers.
While her 18-year-old son is back home with COVID. So you're traveling around
with teeny boppers. You've been exposed to COVID and you're the chief operating officer of the
state. So I get onto the next one, spring break, the department of health and human services,
the chief medical director for Michigan beats it down to Margaritaville. They want to play funny with me.
I know it.
You know I know it.
You're going to confirm it or deny it because you know I already know it.
But where's Margaritaville?
Like, what are you referencing?
That'd be like the Gulf.
The Gulf.
Like, we're from Michigan.
So these people are traveling down to the Gulf or whatever.
They're partying.
They're leaving Pandemic Central.
After they locked us down, Governor told us all to stay put.
Try not to go down there.
Do the right thing.
And her two top health advisors are down there.
And we catch them.
Part three.
Did you go, Governor?
Did you go?
She did, didn't she?
Because I know you went.
She did. Because I'm a reporter Because I know you went. She did.
Because I'm a reporter.
I know people all over the place.
There's nothing going to happen we don't know about.
But ClickOn's not going to do it.
NPR's not going to do it.
I'll leave it to you to ask why they won't do it.
This is germane.
So the governor now says, well, I wouldn't go on spring break.
I went to see my ailing father.
Snowbird Mansion, West Palm Beach.
My brother died.
My brother died three weeks ago.
That's not funny.
I couldn't be at his deathbed.
People couldn't go to funerals.
People couldn't see loved ones in the nursing homes.
And you're making some cockamamie excuse like this.
This is not leadership.
It's not.
Everything's turned upside down, brother.
Our children's lives.
They're manic.
They're sad.
They're confused.
Right?
They're staring at screens. we did what we were asked
we did not we thought we're all rowing the boat together when you know the top three officials
in michigan did this that boat has sailed and when i flew into charlotte north carolina's mart North Carolina's market? Woo, that was packed. I felt like Gulliver's Travel, or Rip Van Winkle.
I haven't seen a crowd like this
in a year and a half.
And I'm personally disgusted.
And you can parse.
You can fake it.
Here's what will not be written
about the COVID response.
It happened in an election year.
History will not remember.
This is the most important election of our lifetimes.
That's right.
Okay.
They won't remember the games that everybody was playing.
Everybody was playing.
Everybody.
Right, left, and middle.
History is segment that's really interesting.
When people talk about the
spanish flu for instance often they don't talk about world war one they just have to read about
it you're like oh wow that kind of habit simultaneously for the most part there are a
lot of times in history where people will reference something like the great depression and then you
understand the context around world war one before it what what led up to these things
but you know we do a couple we do we do these things with history the story was the pandemic
you're right in 100 years they'll be like the pandemic there will be a separate historical
moment where they'll read about the election but they won't be in the same context yes how we got
jimmied we got gamed again i don't want to sound like a denialist because I've never seen in my lifetime the hospitals overflow.
So that's true.
Do not even tweet me anything about that.
That's true.
But who did it hit?
One more time.
The institutionalized elderly.
The very thing the government's responsible for. So when I see Fauci doing his
morning talk shows, what is the nursing home strategy, sir? Because we now know before COVID,
400,000 people died in the nursing got a covid every year in these places now
biden wants to come with 400 billion to deal with it okay that's good so but before we
crap that money down the hole you want to tell me specifically what we're doing
or are the orange juice contractors going to eat it up so she is you're
you're you're talking about what they did with putting covet patients in nursing homes yeah they
took they took the positive and put them in with the with the healthy to clear out the hospital
so you uh i guess you're suing i'm'm suing the state of Michigan for this.
We've come up with an asterisk.
We have a death count.
And then there'll be an asterisk.
Vital record search.
So we add those in.
Okay.
When did they die?
They won't tell us.
How old were they?
They won't tell us.
What was their race?
They won't tell us. And was their race? They won't tell us.
And specifically,
where was their primary residence?
Was it a nursing home?
Are you pulling a Cuomo here?
Are we trying to hide statistical deaths
to make it look better?
Because look,
as you add more deceased people to a list
and less of the deceased people come from a nursing home,
you look like a winner.
Why won't you give it to me?
This is our data.
Why do I have to sue my...
This is not the Soviet Union.
I think the reason is probably obvious, isn't it?
Because the number is probably bad, like what Cuomo did.
Even right today as we stand, we're no better than average,
which is what we like to say in Michigan.
We did no better, no worse.
Until the data comes out.
Teach your redneck to count, and he'll start counting.
What happens if it comes out and the data comes out and it shows that it's a lot worse?
That's bad.
Now, here's the thing.
What happens if they give me the data and it shows what they're reporting to be true?
Guess what I'm going to do?
I'm going to write that.
That's the honest and dignified and professional thing to do.
I just don't think we have journalism anymore.
You know, I guess we don't have real reporters anymore.
We do.
Should we just name a few?
There's a small handful.
Okay, we'll name them.
Do that.
Let's do that.
Before we dog the whole institution, it's not true.
I'll give you one.
You give me one.
Ready?
All right.
Paul Egan.
I can give you Matt Taibbi. I can give you one. You give me one. Ready? All right. Paul Egan. I can give you Matt Taibbi.
I can give you the national ones.
Christine McDonnell.
Yeah, I'm going to give you a look.
So who are they?
Tell me who these people are.
I'm doing it too.
They're people in Michigan that do good work.
You know, I'll give you that.
I'll correct myself.
There are a lot of good local reporters out there doing really good work.
Yes.
I end up following a lot of these guys, men and women, when there's breaking news and it comes from a certain area or a certain city.
I know that for the most part, if you go to a local reporter, it's usually pretty good.
These people aren't the ones chasing the national story and grifting to try and make a buck.
The national people chase them.
Exactly.
And they should be paid more, right?
And they should be respected.
And I don't want to dog them.
Because I know in Minneapolis, they're for real.
In Chicago, in LA, I know.
Pancho Ortiz in McAllen, Texas.
That guy does both sides of the border.
Oh, no, there's a lot of us.
So we're not dogging reporters.
We're dogging the business.
I'll tell you this.
I think you're right.
I think I should correct my statement again.
The problem is the powerful moneyed interests that fund all this stuff
are not the local journalists who are actually reporting on what's going on.
Give me it again, brother.
That's right.
It is these powerful national wealthy interests that are funding.
Who runs the newspapers now?
Hedge funds.
Yeah.
They're tearing them up.
You were looking into it.
Well, the local newspapers are collapsing.
They can't compete with the national level.
Newspapers are over.
But I love newspapers.
You know why?
They're the best kindling for a natural fire.
There's nothing better than a newspaper.
One, it's got stuff...
Like in your fireplace?
Yeah. It is. I don't know than a newspaper. One, it's got stuff in it. Like in your fireplace? Yeah.
It is. I don't know what else you use to start it. Yeah, you actually, you ball it
up and it helps get things going.
I mean newsrooms in general, right?
You used to have, man, it's crazy
when I drive through some of these small towns, you see a big
old, it's like the so-and-so gazette or whatever
and I'm like, they used to have a newspaper here.
Not anymore. They don't even have a
web newspaper because they can't even have a web newspaper.
Because they can't compete at the national level.
The ads have become, you know, Google and Facebook contributed to this,
but it's also that the New York Times can serve local ads.
So the big players dominate the market.
If you live in the middle of Nebraska and you go to these big prominent news websites,
you're going to get ads for the middle of Nebraska.
You're going to get ads for your local grocery store. So you don't
need the local paper selling ads anymore. And then if people are like, if I'm going to pay for news,
I'm going to pay for the New York Times. Why would I pay for a local paper?
100%. So what I do with my podcast is I try in the week to do one big solid story. So when I do it, that's ours and only ours.
And we beat everybody.
And you got to chase us.
For instance, Saturday is the seven-year anniversary of Flint.
I bet you nothing was going to happen in the great state of Michigan
until I just said that.
They finally fixed the fights, right?
I got you. Hello, everybody at home. I got they finally fixed the pipes, right? I got you.
Hello,
everybody at home.
I got you.
Hello,
New York Times.
I got you.
Remember Flint?
They finally fixed the pipes,
right?
Yeah.
No?
Oh,
man.
Still bad?
Nah,
man.
It's like,
you know,
you know what they got in Flint?
Orange drink.
They,
they got that news click.
No,
they didn't.
So it's still bad.
Ain't nobody drinking the water in Flint.
Yeah.
What'd they do to us?
Flint!
What else?
I was thinking like
I think it's always been
bad for humans.
You know, it's always been
like we're struggling
to survive.
We're lucky to be alive. And now it's always been bad for humans. It's always been like we're struggling to survive, we're lucky to be alive,
and now it's just less bad, but there's still lead in the water.
We have clean drinking water, which is kind of a first in humanity.
I guess the Romans maybe started to.
So it's not like it's falling apart.
It's never really been that great.
Well, but look, come on.
You'd be better off in the middle of the woods finding a dirty puddle and drinking it than you would the water in Flint.
They had chemical plant runoff and they had lead eroding in the pipe.
Well, it's not that bad now. actually go back and have a muddy water in some in some land that's mine and some you know like
one of these bbc movies about the vikings where i'm running around you know and shooting elk and
stuff yeah i wouldn't mind that but you don't live very long yeah i thought we were supposed
to be improving i smell rot that's what you've been talking i think i think no matter how much technology improves
there's always the struggle of maintaining things like we still have people who live in the middle
of the wilderness we still have people with their i mean they're undiscovered tribes we could develop
all the best technology in the world and i still think there will be poor people who are living in
squalor yeah the world's getting crowded in it yeah or is a great philosopher once wrote what
goes up must come down spinning wheels going around do you think that who was that i don't know
dj thomas or something we could evolve to a place where humans are all like consciously aware, awesome, connected, unified.
Or are we always going to have a segment of people that are like dumb, like kind of dumb animals that need to be herded?
I kind of like both.
I like the dumb animal and the superhuman.
Because remember what Freud really said, break it down.
The civilized person and the animal person,
the wider they get from each other, the more unhappy you are, the more anxiety.
The animal gives up his pleasure for longevity.
That's the civil person.
That's really, I thought he was brilliant. That's really civil person. That's really,
I thought he was brilliant.
That's really what's going on
in our lives.
Are we going to be animals?
Are we going to be civil?
I like being both.
You got to have a good mix, man.
You got to think long term.
But people don't want us to be that.
No, they want to be short term.
They don't want us to be,
they don't like the animal part of us.
Right, they're frightened.
You have to be nice. You have to be nice.
You have to be nice and be nice at work.
Raise your hand.
Raise your hand.
Don't say the wrong words.
Wash your hands.
And don't say the wrong words.
Because for so long.
Tell it to the hand.
The animals get angry.
They start banging the bars.
And then they start ripping things down and blowing things up.
And that's what the government and the people in power are afraid.
That there's going to be some sort of chaotic, I don't even call it revolution,
but chaotic evolution or de-evolution.
So they're like, no, we have to create strict rules.
We want these people to follow us.
We want them to use our money that we say.
And I think it's holding us back from turning into like the homo sapien is going to evolve
into some other type of hominid or a bunch of different types of hominids.
Nah, robots, bro.
And cybernetic hominids.
A brain in a jar connected to a car battery.
Yes.
That's exactly what we're about to become.
All of the above.
That's one way to put it.
Psychics.
There'll be wild animal humans.
There'll be humans on Mars that are bigger.
There'll be humans in deep space that are really long.
There'll be cybernetic humans.
We're going to integrate ourselves with machines.
That's one thing that –
Maybe that's what you're going to do.
No, that's what –
I'm going to become psychic.
The goal is for a lot of these wealthy industrialists like Elon Musk and Neuralink.
They want to integrate humans with machines.
Well, why wouldn't we?
Because, look, already we tethered ourselves to one.
We're interfacing with these machines right now.
Yeah, but this one.
Yeah, these for sure.
But this one is part of me.
This phone.
And if you make it so I can stick it inside myself and never lose it at the bar, I might do it.
What if they hack it?
Well.
And they start making you think crazy things.
And all of a sudden, you just go nuts.
That's called marriage. yeah yeah a lot of people are worried about the neural link stuff because there's so much we got it we got to discover but my response to the neural link stuff
when people are like would you get it oh i wouldn't get it i'm scared it's like let the technology
happen before you start talking about whether you're worried about it or not this is exponential
if i went if i went to you 15 years ago and said,
would you want to put a tracking device
in your pocket
where the government
can see where you're going
and big corporations
would know when you're pooping,
you'd be like,
no way, I'd never do that.
Now you're like,
I love this thing.
But I'd go like,
what do I get for it?
Access to the summation
of human knowledge.
I would be like,
that's interesting.
Maybe.
In fact, we did.
So it's no use going back and asking the question.
We all knew that.
Right?
Yes.
Yeah, people are going to know it right up.
Did you see Terminator 2?
You guys seen the movie?
I'll be back again.
I thought it was like a dystopian fantasy when I saw it in the 90s.
And now I'm realizing, whoa, dude, that might actually happen.
That's crazy that machines could we we give over to this thing
and then it takes control do you see the new terminator where i guess like the machine
nanoparticles infected the dude and he became a cyborg person or something so in like one of the
later movies i don't they made too many of these like i guess what's what's the name of the kid
john connor is that yeah yeah he
he apparently gets infected by nanotech which integrates him with skynet or whatever and he
was like i guess the story was something i could be getting it wrong so correct me in the comments
if i'm wrong he said something like skynet realized they couldn't win so they decided to integrate
with humans and they're like quick kill him i'm like wait wait wait what's wrong with that like
he's he's super powerful he's like basically indestructible
he's still him
he's doing his thing
wouldn't you want
nanobots to make
like you know
it's like Tony Stark
in Avengers
where he presses
the button on his chest
and then he gets
a suit of armor
wouldn't you want
to be suit
like have superpowers?
Not only that
I'd like to be
the governor of California
Yeah afterwards
That would be fantastic as well
when you retire.
You don't get the analogy, do you?
Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Oh, you did get the analogy.
Yeah, Terminator.
We'll just take that out.
This is live.
Post-production.
What?
Imagine this.
You didn't tell me that.
You didn't know it was live?
I didn't mean that, Governor.
I didn't mean it.
I love you.
So imagine right now when we're all like, we're okay with these phones in our pockets tracking our every movement because of the powers we get from it.
I got to say like, okay, you got to integrate with the machines, but you can also have superpowers.
You can jump real high.
Your hand can turn into a sword.
But, bro, I just – I turned off location and I just want to check Facebook.
That's not how it works.
Even if I turn location off, I'd be in track?
Yes.
Yeah.
Really?
Yes.
And I told all the apps
you can't track me?
Yeah, they can track you.
Welcome to the future, my friend.
The crazy thing is you don't know
because the code is proprietary.
Let me explain.
I actually thought I was getting away with it.
Would a VPN and turning it all off?
You just don't know.
You don't know what the code
is doing behind your back.
In order to connect to the VPN, it has to connect to a local tower first.
True.
And it has to register your device on that tower first.
But a VPN in it.
VPN protects your browsing.
So if you're looking up pictures of dogs, they won't know you're looking at pictures of dogs.
But they will know where you are at hitting that tower.
They can ping me.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah me Your phone has to be like
Hey this is Charlie's phone
I want to do something
I'm not going to tell you what it is
That's different
Let me explain something to you
You know that you have voice activation on that phone right
You can say
You know that phrase
I don't want to say it because I don't want to turn people's phones on
Hey Judy machine
You say hello phone and it turns on?
Yeah.
How does it know you're talking?
Because you allowed it to access your voice.
And how does it know you're talking at that moment?
Because I pressed the button.
No, no, no, no.
You can activate it without pressing the button by saying its name.
What goes up?
I can say it.
We got one of the Amazon devices, devices right it's just sitting there in
the room listening but if i say its name it'll turn on and say what would you like in fact if
you go to if you go to your settings it'll act you can look up the things you've said to your
device and it'll say this was not intended for the for you know name of device that means your
phone right now in order for it to be able to know you used a voice
activation command, the microphone is always on.
Always.
Always.
The way voice activation works, the way the voice to text works, you say a word, the phone
sends that sound bite to a company that codes, takes that sound and turns it into text.
Okay.
Sends it back.
Help me.
That means.
Help me.
How do I get rid of that?
Throw it out the window.
That's the only way.
Well, you could use open source.
A mini Faraday cage.
Wait, wait.
For the regular people.
How do I get rid of that?
You can't.
Then don't carry a phone?
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Carry a mini Faraday cage.
What?
So a Faraday cage is like, it's a cage.
I love that.
It was Robin Williams and Nathan Lane in the Faraday cage.
All right.
The bird cage.
The bird cage.
Great movie, by the way.
A Faraday cage blocks all incoming electromagnetic waves.
And outgoing.
And outgoing.
Is that an app?
No, no.
It's a little box made of metal.
I get it.
Okay.
So you ever look at the front of a microwave and you can see that like you can kind of see in but there's a metal screen?
Yeah.
That's because the holes are the right wavelength to prevent microwaves from coming out.
A microwave is a Faraday cage because it has to keep all the microwaves inside of it.
I'm pretty sure this works.
If you put your phone in the microwave, it should put your phone like untrackable because –
But my head is going to explode if I'm talking in my microwave. Don't put your head in the microwave, it should put your phone on trackable because... But my head's going to explode if I'm talking
in my microwave.
Don't put your head in the microwave.
You could get a 5G...
No, the 5S.
If you're Android, I think the 5S and before,
you could take the battery out.
No, it won't.
I don't think they can track a phone without a battery in it.
Not the old ones.
I'm talking about when the battery's in it.
These batteries are permanently in now. Okay, get a burner ones. No, I'm talking about when the battery's in it. I'm just here now. These batteries are permanently in now.
Okay, get a burner phone.
No, no, no.
That won't work.
Come on.
Why?
So the burner phone still has to register on a tower, right?
Yeah, but don't link it to your name.
Then if you at any point ever have that phone and your phone in the same place at the same time,
the network will register both devices.
Do that a couple of times, and the AI tracking these systems will detect a pattern.
This cell registration and this cell registration appear in the same time multiple times.
How far away should I use my burner phone or turn my regular phone off when I use my
burner phone?
Leave your regular phone at your house.
Go a few miles for your burner phone.
But what if I turn my regular phone off and then use my burner phone?
It might work, but I'll tell you this, man.
Just go a couple miles.
You need to understand something.
They have a Facebook.
I'm trying to understand something.
No, no, no.
For sure, for sure.
Do you have a Facebook profile?
Yeah.
Do you have any family members who never signed up for Facebook?
Yeah.
They have Facebook profiles too, even though they didn't sign up.
They're called shadow profiles.
I know that, I know.
So the point is, if they
want to track your burner phone,
it is as easy as making
chocolate chip cookie dough.
I'm going to give you my number on my burner phone.
Don't do it.
You know, I... Area code, not on this show.
Check this out, check this out. 9-1-1.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I was at a meeting in – don't dial that number.
I was at a Google event.
Somebody will.
And I was there.
No, you can't do that, man.
I was at a Google event with – who is that famous war correspondent for NBC?
Richard Engel?
Is that his name?
Yeah, Richard Engel.
Yeah, he still works there.
He went to Syria during the height of the war with his cell phone.
He brought his cell phone, his personal phone with him to Syria.
And I was just like, bro, are you joking?
And he was like, no, why?
It's like anything on your phone, just consider it the property of the Syrian government at this point.
The moment you landed within their towers, they owned every bit of data on that phone probably.
Instantly, they're tracking this stuff.
It's war, bro.
Dude.
He didn't realize that.
You know what's funny?
Go ahead, brother.
I mean, I'm going off on another tangent about how the world is becoming all observable.
We're all becoming part of this Borg collective, whether we want to or not.
It's crazy.
How are we going to navigate this new reality?
Well, you have to be smart, like you're saying, because our Supreme Court justice is on a
junket to Dubai,
and he's supposed to be in Israel, and he gets stopped for COVID.
He decides to spend three months.
The state Supreme Court?
Yeah, and he decides to spend three months in Dubai,
but he says, I'm working.
And I'm like, are you doing conferences via Zoom?
You know, those are supposed to be secret.
Those are undercover, which cases we're picking,
when we're discussing
the merits of the case
and how we're going to
come up with the decision.
And you're doing it by Zoom?
In Dubai?
The government's got all that.
And nobody questions it.
Yep, that's right.
There's no way to do business.
There's no way to run a government.
Yeah, they got everything, man.
Facebook, they know
everything about you.
Facebook can predict
when you poop.
They can because that's when I'm checking it out.
It's not just that.
It's that based on simple things like when you last ate, they know when you ate because they're checking your location.
It's not even about whether or not you have location services on.
There are some services that have mapped out all of the local Wi-Fi signals from certain areas. So they'll have cars drive around, and they have a computer scanning open Wi-Fi signals.
They're not breaking into your Wi-Fi.
They're just seeing who's broadcasting.
They then incorporate that into map data.
So that way you can use your map app, whichever one, without having access to GPS.
Do we care?
I'm looking up Zoom.
Apparently it's owned by Eric Yan, Chinese immigrant, without having access to GPS. Do we care? I'm looking up Zoom.
Apparently it's owned by Eric Yan, Chinese immigrant, now an American citizen, but the company's development team is largely based in China, meaning all that stuff's property
of the Chinese government.
Oh, yeah.
Every communication you do on Zoom is probably in the Chinese server.
Chinese government's got it.
Oh, so the Supreme Court of Justice is...
Yeah, it's compromised.
This world is...
Do we care?
Not...
Yes, I do, but do but we're gonna be slaves
well like how do we how do we survive it that's basically it's happening i mean i'm not trying to
like be like stop stop i don't want my my life to be in the public domain because it basically is
but how do we survive that planet is becoming the borg I don't want to. You can't stop it.
So we have to leave the planet?
I don't know, man.
Just know if you raise chickens, you should feed them the eggshells.
Is that true, though?
I heard you're not supposed to do that.
I heard you're supposed to.
We went to a vet for our sick chickens and said, make sure you don't get any eggshells in there.
Oh, no.
I fed them every two days with those things.
We had a sick chick, and they said make some scrambled eggs for the chick.
Excuse me?
But just make sure you don't put any eggshells in it.
You're cooking scrambled eggs for a chick?
That's what the vet told us to do.
That's right, yeah.
Unfertilized.
And the reason they said to make sure it doesn't get any eggshells is because then they'll eat their own eggs.
You sensitive man.
For what?
He was worried about his chick.
It died.
He loves his chickens.
And it died.
That's how bad your cooking is.
No, it's just sometimes chickens die, man.
We brought it to the vet.
The vet was like,
sometimes chickens are just weak.
They don't make it.
The little babies, you know.
What do you think the vet thought
when you walked in with a...
It was a chicken vet.
They were like...
A chicken vet?
That's right.
They were like...
You are on the sticks.
That's right.
We got farms.
And they were like... Their attitude was, a customer is here. That's right They were like Another That's right We got farms And they were like Their attitude was
A customer is here
That's it
And they had chicken medicine
And they gave it to us
And they gave us a little thing
You put in the chicken's mouth
Because there are a lot of farmers
Who had to treat their chickens
Is there a pandemic going around?
No but chickens have parasites
Is it chickvit?
It's called
What's it called?
What was it?
Well What the parasite The chickens can get Yeah I forgot what it's called Trich's it called? What was it? Well, what the parasite the chickens can get?
Yeah, I forgot what it was called.
Trichinosis is the first thing that comes to my mind.
There's something they have.
I can't remember what it's called.
Coccidiosis.
Interesting.
That's funny.
Coccidiosis.
Yeah.
So they had to give a broad spectrum.
Because, you know, like roosters are cocks.
Coccidiosis.
Well, yeah.
You know the red thing on the chicken's head?
The comb. Cock's comb. Yeah. But the chickens have it Well, yeah. You know the red thing on the chicken's head? The comb.
Cock's comb.
Yeah.
But the chickens have it, too.
And so the hens have it.
So we had some people see the chickens.
And one of them, they're growing up.
One of them's got the little thing on.
And they're like, but I thought they were all girls.
I'm like, yeah.
They're like, but it has the red thing.
I'm like, chickens have that, too.
Hens have that.
Do you guys feel like Like this last week
Has been dark
What do you mean dark
This was a Chauvin thing
And the way
Yes
I feel kind of like
Demoralized
Or like
I'm still reeling
Like
Like what
Like a loss
A lack of hope
Like
Like
It's Wednesday man
Don't worry
The week's only half over
It feels like Friday Buck up bro I want to say too We got to go to Super Chats But I just want to point out hope like like it's wednesday man don't worry the week's only half over it's like friday buck up
bro i want to say too we got to go to super chats but i just want to point out i think your chris
cuomo bit is going to go down in in the show history of being like one of the best clips
where you're like okay hold on let me do it better well i'm coming out I've been out of here a couple weeks. Now go back down to the basement.
Oh, I fell.
You've got to watch that again and watch his son's face while he's doing it
because his son thinks he's such full of crap while he's watching.
He's like, dude, he has not been down in the basement this whole time.
He's lying, and he's on national TV.
He got caught, and he admitted it.
It's crazy.
Oh, did you pop your headphones out?
I don't know where that goes.
Okay.
Here, can you? We'll read Super Chats, and then Charlie you pop your headphones out i don't know where that goes okay here can
you we'll read super chats and then i can hear you guys charlie by the way before we go hey
brother it's good to see you again oh yeah dude it's been a minute i love you man i think the
last time we hung out was in ferguson wow and it was it was crazy times but we hung out the bar
it was fun the bar not ferguson yeah that's. It was fun. The bar, not Ferguson. Yeah, that's the thing.
That's what I'm trying to clarify.
That's the thing about the business, man.
It's hard if you do it right.
It's horrifying.
We're going to read some super chats.
See what I can do with the headphones.
Fix your headphones.
All right, everybody.
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I can swear.
Yeah, and the members-only stuff, you can –
I did well, didn't I?
You tried so hard.
Yeah, we don't swear on the live show because we're family-friendly.
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We also got a bunch of big updates.
We're working really hard on getting this done.
It's not the easiest thing in the world.
We are hiring tons of people.
But let's read some super chats.
We got the first superchat
from a name that's being blocked by YouTube.
He says, what are your thoughts on
ranked choice voting? I'm a
fan. I like ranked
choice voting. Me too.
I like it a lot. That means, so, you have
10 candidates. You give them each a ranking
on 1 to 10. And then if your
number 1 choice isn't one of the contenders,
it defaults to your number 2. And then if your number one choice isn't one of the contenders, it defaults to your number two.
Right.
And then it takes like the top two final contenders and it will calculate which one of those goes to those two.
Yeah.
So it's not a perfect system by any means.
It still can devolve into a two party system.
But the idea is so if you had, you know, we had Joe Jorgensen, Trump, and we had Biden.
You could be like, OK, Trump's number one.
Joe Jorgensen's number two, Biden's number three.
If Trump doesn't pull enough votes, your votes flips to the next choice.
That way, the idea is the person who wins is more representative of what the people want
as opposed to first-past-the-post voting where everybody gets one vote,
and then that person wins, which creates a two-party system.
So I like the idea.
My turn?
Yeah. Too confusing in a country of 330 million people that don't even trust
a mail-in ballot. No, but
it's got to be confusing. You can be like,
please select your choice for president. It's lightning
round. I'm just saying. But check it out.
Imagine this. Please select your choice
for president. You go. Check. I know what it is.
Then a box over here says,
who else would
you like to be president if this was your second choice and you could pick somebody not in the dna
next super question but first super question all right then kb toys says the majority voted to
abolish the police does that mean we disregard the minority then you criticize those who wouldn't
let their car be taken but advocate abandoning cities you
live another day and are out of the fight uh i think that if you're there's a big difference
between someone trying to steal your car outright where it's illegal and no one agrees with stealing
cars i think if you're in a city and they pass a bill that says carjacking is now legal and you're
like i'll stay here then what do you want me to say when you get carjacked? So, look, if it's illegal to carjack somebody and someone carjacks you, my personal opinion is, you know, to certain degrees, of course, I'm going to be like, I'm going to fight.
But if your city legalizes or decriminalizes carjackings, you might want to leave.
Yeah, but not everyone can.
You know, it's hard for people to relocate sometimes.
Sure, we did have a super chat yesterday where someone pushed back on that,
saying it's not as hard as people think.
And look, man, the fact of the matter is hard or easy isn't what's important.
What's important is if you stay in a city like Minneapolis,
what you are saying is it is easier and safer for me to stay here than it would be to leave.
Because I'll tell you this.
You've got a family.
It's tough.
You seriously could just start walking.
Nothing's stopping you and your family from just walking down the street and walking.
Now, I get it.
That's ridiculously unsafe.
So it might be safer to stay in your home.
But finding a new place to live, renting an apartment might be hard.
But you might be safer in the long run.
It's short-term versus long-term thinking.
Are we on the Family Friendly Show or the other show?
Family Friendly.
We're on the Family Friendly Show.
Yeah, so it's now legal to come up to me at the gas station, stick a gun in my face, and take my car?
Stupid!
Is it?
That's carjacking as far as I know what it is.
Yeah, yeah. I'm not saying it is it well you know that's carjacking as far as i know what it is yeah yeah i'm not saying it
is legal i'm saying you live in minneapolis where they've tried to abolish their police
yeah it backfired a bunch of cops left and now people are panicking staying there is kind of
like a bad idea this is my opinion you can stay if you want all right ernie g says detroit's best
journalist love your work charlie tim Tim, Lydia, and sometimes Ian.
I was a bit teed off by the no good 80s music.
ACDC Motley Crue.
Who said no good 80s music?
Guns N' Roses.
I didn't say there was none. No, someone else.
What was it, you?
I mean, I was dogging on 80s, just the 80s in general.
The 80s was one of the best music periods ever.
It was okay.
Don't you want me, baby?
Except for the 60s and the 70s and the 90s. Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. The 70s, eh. The 70s was okay. Don't you want me, baby? Except for the 60s and the 70s
and the 90s.
The 70s? Eh.
The 70s was okay. There's good 70s music.
Zeppelin was hot. Look at this.
The 60s was awesome.
Tears for Fears. Tears for Fears was pretty good.
The Cure, Depeche Mode. No, no.
Depress Mode.
Come on. The 90s was when
rock and roll was birthed. You could say
it was birthed before that, but it matured in the 90s. The 90s was when rock and roll was birthed. You could say it was birthed before that, but it matured in the 90s.
The 90s had Smashing Pumpkins.
I'll give you that.
It had a lot of that grunge rock.
The Seattle.
Yeah, the Seattle sound.
The 80s had some good music, no doubt.
Guns N' Roses is like one of the best bands of all time, I think.
True.
It's the 2000s that was bad, right?
Yeah, when Auto-Tune took hold.
The 2000s were bad.
So bad.
What did we have in the 2000s?
Somebody told us their stuff.
I was like, oh, yeah, that existed.
There's some good stuff.
That existed.
But when Auto-Tune came out, anyone could just sing crappy and then tweak it.
And the whole point, I think, of recording yourself is to make it sound like who you are for real.
And there's a challenge to sound good.
Like Justin Bieber.
I think he's a lot of them.
Dave Grohl.
In 50 years, people are going to be putting on the classics.
Justin Bieber.
Oh, God.
All right, we got Doc Holliday says,
Thanks for introducing me to Charlie.
He's a blast.
There you go.
DW says, Never heard of this guest,
but why does he sound like he does a voiceover for mobster movies?
None of your business.
I had to think about that, but I was going to come up with a good one.
It's a family.
Stay tuned for the next one.
Subscribe if you're not, and I'll tell you why.
All right.
Sikantia says, once again, I am asking for your support to bring Donut Operator or Angry
Cops in the podcast.
Much love to you all.
Even Ian, who catches my friend and I off guard with Federal Reserve rants.
Yes.
Love.
A trans girl Trump voter.
All right.
Donut Operator would be fantastic.
Yeah.
I reached out to him recently.
Okay, cool.
Wait, that's something.
Hey, trans girl Trump voter.
Respect.
Respect.
Yeah, man.
Hmm.
Gerald Herbert says stink bugs are also known as kissing bugs as they eat dead flesh and
the lips are their favorite to feed on at night and they carry horrible bacteria that
can cause fatal infections.
How nice.
Thank you.
And they don't degrade.
There are different kinds of stink bugs.
No, they live and your belly can come out.
So we've been just, we've thrown them in jars. We go outside, we throw in a chicken thing and the chickens just go nuts. They don't degrade. They don't degrade. No, they live and your belly can come out. So we've been just, we throw them in jars, we go outside, we throw them in a chicken
thing and the chickens just go nuts.
They love stink bugs.
I can see why.
They were not, I would eat them.
They're big and juicy.
Good and crunchy.
Jack, Jack Mack says, oh, I'm sorry, Jack Mack Doge Boy.
Oh.
My buddy in Ukraine says everyone is super on edge.
He lives less than 50 miles from the Russian border.
Worried about my homie and the world.
You're not alone, man.
This is it.
Look at this.
Black Lion Grunt says Russia warns US and NATO to not cross their red line.
I wish we had a strong leader like a certain orange man.
But you know the history of the Ukraine and Poland and Central Europe, they get washed
over all the time.
But now we got really
big
bombs.
Not a good idea.
Steve Smith says, damn, I vote for the first time
in 2016 and the world seems to go to crap.
Well, it's a good thing it's cold in Minnesota
tonight, so less riots maybe.
Also, I feel a lot like the cops have debt.
So they won't quit thus
they stick around in this terrible system yeah well there you go hey keep in mind man it made
me it seems like it's going to crap but it's not it just seems like that because of the media
manipulation but i like what dude said though you know like it's a job it's a job it should pay more
it should pay more that's and the story but you story, but you're right. I don't think people realize that having people who don't feel invested in their work because they get paid garbage, it's like $38,000.
Yeah.
And can I do this for real?
That job is insane.
A lot of my friends are cops.
Every single person out there knows that the majority of cops do a hard job and they do it well.
We know that.
We should say that and ask.
Nobody even knows what forced continuum means.
You're asking for a change that you won't even understand what it is to be a police.
So I just want to shout out to the very good police tonight.
All right.
Connor O'Brien says,
The only piece of journalism I'll show my grandkids is the clip of Al Roker
fessing up to crapping his pants in the White House.
What?
Is that real?
I don't know if that's real.
I don't know if that's real.
That sounds real.
It does sound real.
All right.
Let's see.
Where are we at?
Tennessee.
Pharaoh Fox says,
glad to see Charlie is still doing great things.
Loved your book,
is show.
Keep flashing that press badge
and not wearing the brown shoes
and spin the UFO,
which we actually,
we don't have,
we have the spinny thing,
but the UFO still exists.
I want to get a spinning moon.
What happened to the earth? Remember we had the earth? Yeah. The earth is flat. No want to get a spinning moon. What happened to the Earth?
Remember we had the Earth?
Yeah.
The Earth is flat.
No, it isn't.
Okay.
Depends on how you look at it.
How's that a thing?
I still don't know.
Some people just kind of lost it.
They used to think it was.
There was like ancient science.
Didn't they have like firmament and there was a belief that it was on the back of a
turtle or something?
I mean, I don't know about all that.
I do know that Eratosthenes
calculated the circumference of the Earth
by measuring shadows, and that was
in like 2 BC. That dude's name is awesome
by the way. Eratosthenes.
Nice pronunciation. One in
Athens and one in Cairo
in fact. Yes, right.
There's many ways to see it. So smart, dude.
That's amazing.
Look at the eclipse.
It's circular. Look at the eclipse. Right.
It's circular.
The idea of a flat circle.
It looks like a flat circle from the two dimensions.
So if the Earth is flat, is it up on its side like a quarter or is it flat?
See what I'm saying?
Maybe it's up on its side and doing this at the speed of light so it looks like a sphere.
Tim wants to actually talk about facts.
Yeah.
The idea that the Earth was flat was like Christopher Columbus.
That's not true.
The issue was Columbus thought the Earth was a smaller circumference and that the academics were wrong.
They all knew it was round.
You know why?
Because boats go over the horizon and go down.
Like people weren't dumb.
They were like, oh, look at that.
It was always – so let me give the visual.
May I?
Yeah. weren't dumb they were like oh look at that it's a it's a it was always so let me give the visual if may i yeah sailors know this when a when a ship with the with the mass and the sails when they come over the horizon the first thing you see is the crow's nest then you see the main sail
then you see the bow so if the earth was flat you'd see them all at the same time they'd just
be small right but you see them rising up over the horizon. That's how you know it's curved.
And so they've done that for a long time. And that's why he was like, hey, I'm going to calculate
the circumference. So Columbus was all like, you're wrong about
how big the planet is. We can make it sailing west
to India. He just was wrong.
And he ended up crashing into the Bahamas or something like that.
And then he called everyone Indians.
That's right, because he thought he was in India.
All right, anyway.
Kay Lorraine says,
I love this man.
I want to see him on a show.
Well, you got a show.
It's the No BS News Hour.
Yeah, but look at that.
I've been eating well.
You look great.
You know.
Cut my own hair.
Trim my mustache just for this show.
Thank you.
I feel a little old.
I feel it coming on.
And thank you.
You make me feel sexy.
All right.
Raz.
And the boy wants to feel sexy.
Raz Grizz missed a word, but I'm going to try and put in what I think they were saying.
Charlie's outburst was the best I have ever seen.
I am currently crying from the hot sauce that just came out of my nose.
Get that man another beer on me.
I'm telling you, the Cuomo thing,
we're going to clip that
and we're going to make sure we promote that one.
They're bozos.
And they're the Sonic.
This is my own time, right?
They're like daddy's boy.
I mean, their dad, Mario Cuomo,
is basically the name recognition
got them their jobs.
I don't think they're really all that great.
Yeah.
This is a good idea from Eric A.
He says, Ian, I have this image of good idea from Eric. Hey, he says,
Ian,
I have this image
of you coming
in like the Kool-Aid
man with end
the Fed
and free the code.
It wouldn't be
the same show
without you.
Maybe we have
to make a shirt
of Ian breaking
through a brick
wall with a picture
of red fruit drink
that says end
the Fed on it.
A destructible wall.
You can't end
the Fed.
We'll talk about
this.
Yeah,
we could audit it
at least.
We could.
That would be good. You can also audit the Pentagon. We'll talk about this. Yeah, we could audit it at least. That would be good.
You could also audit the Pentagon.
We could repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. You need the Federal Reserve Act.
You just need a bank.
But it doesn't have to be the Federal Reserve.
Okay, we're going to do this.
Everybody's having a good time.
We got some more praise for you, Charlie.
I like praise.
Tell me how great I am.
Oh, yeah.
Clayton says, just got to say what an amazing guest.
I mean, Charlie is super entertaining in every aspect.
Bo Jess says, thank you so much for having Charlie on.
He's doing great work for my state and needs as much support as possible.
Yes.
Charlie, please never let up on Gretsch and the corruption in Michigan.
Fix the S.
I gave you a shirt.
You gave me a shirt.
We don't swear, but it says fix the S.
Fix the ish.
Or fix it.
Government just fix it, and we'll do our own stuff.
We don't need a nanny.
Man, we're screwed.
Jay Lavelle says,
Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra.
Darmok and Jalad on the ocean.
Kiyazi's children, their faces wet.
Shaka, when the walls fell.
Uzami, with fist closed.
Temba, when the walls fell.
The beast of Tanagra.
Now, if you guys know what that means, you have my respect.
A good cryptic.
I dig it, though.
But they mentioned Shaka.
I was actually listening to that.
So, do you guys want to know what all that meant?
Yes.
The secrets? What do you think it to know what all that meant? Yes. The secrets?
What do you think it might be relevant to this show?
Oh, he said shocker.
Relevant to this show.
Wakanda forever.
Something we do here.
I don't know.
Something we reference quite often.
I don't know.
The Federal Reserve.
No.
Cryptocurrency.
Graphene.
No.
DMT.
That's all I got.
Did you give up?
Yeah.
You can't get it?
Yeah.
It's a Star Trek reference.
Oh, okay.
I knew it.
It was the speaking clinger.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, it's an alien race that speaks in parables and stories.
Like my Spanish.
So when communicating, and they would say something like,
Dharmak and Jalad on the ocean, it's a story and you're communicating through, uh, I saw that.
So the idea is like, when you say like Tim and Ian on Tim cast, you're basically saying
like having a discussion and arguments.
Oh yeah.
So it's like that reference is a reference to the common occurrence.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, yeah.
Sorry.
If you were to say something like nerd out over there not
mother raising her child on the busy street it's like well it's a specific story so it's like
joe joe biden climbing airplane stairs so you'd be referencing someone failing at something indeed
is this pig latin or something no no it's it's speaking it's conveying ideas through stories it
was a it was an episode i didn't understand a damn word that guy said.
So it was an episode of Star Trek where they're trying to communicate with these aliens who
are frustrated because they keep speaking in stories.
And we can understand the words specifically like ocean, but we don't know what the stories
are, so we have no idea what they're saying.
And so they're trying to translate.
And then Picard teams up with the guy and they're
trying to teach him the language and stuff like that still confusing try cockney 43 rub a dub
aid aiden says hey tim love the amount of work that you put into the show and uh as well as of
the vids you make throughout the week at the college i go to they are making us go through
diversity inclusion training because of that girl from Ohio.
Which girl?
The one with the knife.
Was it the one?
Is that what they're talking about?
I don't know.
That many girls from Ohio?
Probably, yeah. Columbus won.
Yeah, Columbus.
Yeah.
I don't make light of it, though.
This is painful.
All right.
There was a bunch of comments where they really love you, but we've got to read the ones where they don't.
Oh, yeah.
You ready?
Yeah, ready?
Okay.
Music DC guy says, eh, this guy is a Constitution hater and a liberal apologist.
I'll tune back in tomorrow.
Okay, bro.
Okay.
Recite the preamble or give me the three articles setting up the Confederation.
No, no, no.
Article one, article two, article three.
Give me the Bill of Rights.
Can anybody give me the Bill of Rights?
Thou shall not.
No, that's not the Ten Commandments.
I'm big into Moses.
No, huh?
Anybody?
Yeah.
I'm not the guy.
That's right, dude.
So don't you even do that.
Type them in now, and we'll see if you don't.
Don't Google it.
You know you don't know it.
Go ahead.
Zach says, Lola Bunny turning men into furries since 1996.
Yikes, yeah.
That's Bugs' girlfriend, right?
So one of the biggest scandals now, apparently, is that Lola Bunny in 1996 was drawn with big boobs,
and now they've gotten rid of the boobs.
So now Lola Bunny has no boobs.
By the way, did you guys see?
I don't think anyone's actually mad about that.
Oh, then that's just Bugs Bunny.
But people are joking about it.
That's just Bugs Bunny.
Have you guys seen the new Looney Tunes?
No.
Freakishly disturbing.
They remade it like Seinfeld, where Bugs is like Jerry.
But it's just poorly, poorly.
You got to watch it, dude.
It's so weird.
From when?
Recently?
It's like five years old or three years old or something.
Really?
It's so weird.
Is it like crude? No. It's like five years old or three years old or something. Really? It's so weird. Is it like crude?
No, it's just like boring pseudo humor.
It's so weird, dude.
Can I get some more hate mail?
Some more hate?
Yeah, we got some more hate, I'm sure.
What did I do?
Jeez.
You invited me for a conversation.
Martin Edgar says,
Grandma got run over by a reindeer by Elmo Shropshire and Patsy Trigg, 1979.
Husband and wife duo.
Excellent song.
Well done, bro.
You made a cartoon about it.
Educated audience here.
That's right.
Sir Neoff Strife says, Hey, Tim, you should get Gary Buechler, the nerd Roddick.
He talks about how they just used characters we know to push woke because he used to own
a comic shop and rise from being a drug addict that went to jail to a YouTuber he said he
would love to be on.
Love the show.
Very cool.
We will look into nerd Roddick.
I will reach out.
Hey, you're doing good, man.
Alien King says, you jumped out on your own stuff.
Yeah.
I was working for a Disney company, man.
I could have just jumped through all the hoops they asked me to and got paid all the fat cash to be one of the corporate shills.
I'm the only guy that gets to come on here and say,
I'm proud of you because you were younger.
We were in the spot together.
We know each other.
We both worked for Vice.
I'm proud of you.
Thanks, man.
Oh, thanks, Charlie.
Smart guy. Thanks for coming on the show.
Let me read to you what they're saying about you.
Alien King says, what a great freaking
guest. I love Charlie's honesty, candor, and
energy. Just imagine the life experiences
this guy has had. Take note and step
up, Trevor. Right, Trevor?
We're not ragging on Trevor anymore. Trevor's all right.
Trevor Noah? No, no, no.
Someone called out their friend Trevor.
So we all started joking that Trevor sucks.
And then somebody named Trevor was like, come on, guys. What. Just Trevor. Someone called out their friend Trevor. So we all started joking that Trevor sucks.
And then somebody named Trevor was like, come on, guys.
What's with Trevor Noah?
What's with Trevor Noah? Not a fan.
He's the worst.
I don't know.
How did he get that job?
Dude, you came over in 2014.
What do you know?
That's nice.
It's good.
With the tears.
You don't know what tears are.
Not here.
He's doing what he thinks Jon Stewart would do.
And he's just not Jon Stewart.
It's so, so cringe.
Triple Kill says, can you please trim these YouTube videos?
I don't listen to a minute and a half of dead air before each episode.
Keep it the good work.
I don't think we actually can.
I don't think we've tried trimming.
So this is a live show.
Once it goes up, I don't think you can actually.
Oh, actually, you might be able to trim.
Oh, can we?
You can't split.
Yeah, you can't split.
You've got to post-product it.
Right.
No, it's live.
It's posted.
Then it's going to archive it.
Then you can go back and you can cut.
We'll see if we can do that.
But he's live.
Yeah, man.
The thing is, the guy's live.
What's the matter with you?
But most people do watch after the fact.
I know, but he's doing live.
I can't take it anymore.
I'll see what I can do.
I'll see what I can do.
Frank Skula says, Charlie, never heard of you before, but I got to say, you are one heck of a character.
I can't say I agree with everything you said today, but man, I would share a beer with you, brother.
We're not supposed to agree with everything, but I'd definitely have a beer.
I think all that people really want is authenticity. You can be wrong
about a ton of things, and people would love
to hang out with you as long as you're willing to
actually talk about stuff.
We don't know each other that well.
We don't agree with everything.
But it's an interesting night, and you
return to your corner of the earth, and I return to
mine.
And that's what a tribe is.
We're going to have to have you do a bunch of little mini-docs for us, though, if you're interested. turned to mine. And that's what a tribe is.
We're going to have to have you do a bunch of little mini-docs for us,
though, if you're interested.
Definitely.
Look, man, here's the thing.
It's a new media concern.
I don't need you.
You definitely don't need me.
But why don't we link up?
Sounds good.
Okay, we'll figure it out.
There we go.
Oh, we're going to kill.
Oh, we're going to kill.
Orwell was a prophet. 1984 says, I love how the
same people that want to abolish the police
also want to take my guns. That's adorable.
You think a social worker is going to actively
listen me out of my stockpile?
That's what I'm saying. Look, you want to
abolish the police, there won't be anybody to enforce
gun laws, so I'm not worried about it.
I got a nice story about that real quick, because
we're doing rapid fire. In detroit one time they sent the social worker and the social worker for what got
sent for what uh disturbed man disturbed man social worker went in dude was naked had a shotgun
said sit down social worker sat down in a barca lounger of urine and had to sit there for an hour
till naked man.
They were all right.
Yeah, it turned out all right.
But that's good.
You don't just send social workers.
We all know what's going on.
Let's be adults about it.
Scott H. says, Hey, Charlie, I live in Detroit and have followed you since you exposed Bob
Vecano for serving cat food to Meals on Wheels. Scott H says Hey Charlie I live in Detroit And have followed you Since you exposed Bob Ficano
For serving cat food
To Meals on Wheels
Similar to the orange drink
Keep fighting the good fight
Exposing Whitmer
Serving cat food
To old people
Long story
Wow man
Long story
But again
No
I'm not hunting Whitmer
Let's get this straight
I want answers
And when the answers Aren't truthful, I keep going.
I'm not hunting.
I'm doing what a reporter is supposed to do, keeping the government held to account.
That's it.
Right on.
Alex Moore says, good job, team.
Y'all make me laugh, cry, yell at the TV, throw the occasional can, agree and agree to disagree I will give a super chat for one of you to finish
cyberpunk at least one ending
and think prophetic future
when you review for us
you finish I bite the bullet I haven't
even bought it yet but I'll go there I guess
they fixed a lot of it okay that's that's what I was waiting
for I think I still have the original on
my PlayStation like when it first came out so it's
like all the glitchy broken never been updated
race you probably auto updates whenever I play skater XL or whatever my PlayStation. Like when it first came out. So it's like all the glitchy, broken, never been updated. Erase you.
Probably auto updates whenever I play Skater XL
or whatever.
All right.
Slayer says,
Hey Charlie, I'm 26,
living in Detroit
and I can't stand Gretchen.
Are there any job opportunities
to work with you?
I'd love to join you.
Should I give my email?
Yeah, if you want.
If you feel comfortable. You'll get like a thousand emails. Should I give my email? Yeah, if you want.
If you feel comfortable. You'll get like a thousand emails.
Ladoff10 at gmail.com.
But come if you're for real.
You got some video skill.
You know what I mean?
No.
I appreciate it, but I'm not running a community college.
If you got some skills, get a hold of me.
If not, go to the community college, get the skills, then get a hold of me.
All right.
Julie Simone says, while I agree with personal accountability and not staying in a place that no longer aligns with your values,
unfortunately, there aren't as many decent places for people to flee.
So then what?
West Virginia?
Wyoming?
Never flee.
What?
Never flee.
First of all, don't flee.
If you flee, you're the problem.
You're the weak.
You make a choice to move.
There's a difference.
Or hold it out and get real on planet Earth.
There's no Disneyland.
You said it.
It's never been that great.
No, it's not.
So come on now.
Don't flee.
I don't trust you if you flee. Nobody wants flight. I don't trust you if you flee.
Nobody wants flight.
You never have my back if you flee.
That means you don't have your own back.
There are such things as organized retreat.
That's a lot different than getting routed.
Heather Graham says,
Tim, the Supreme Court previously upheld that police agencies have no duty to provide protection to citizens in general.
The other officers in George Floyd death had no duty to provide protection to George Floyd
at the very least, correct?
It's true.
I actually was looking at one of Luke Rutkowski's old videos.
There was a guy on a subway in New York, had a knife, I guess, and he was attacking people.
And the cops refused to do anything.
Some regular guy tried subduing this guy with a knife,
and the cops just stood there and watched because they were like,
we don't got to do anything.
We're not going to help you.
So Luke actually interviewed the guy.
He got stabbed a bunch of times.
It's crazy.
I remember that.
Yeah, that's nuts.
What's up with those other cops
that were on the scene for the Chauvin,
I guess, murder you would call it now.
They're gone off, I guess.
Oh, there are.
No, I think their stuff proceeds now.
And they were charged with aiding and abetting, is that right?
I don't know.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I didn't follow all of this as closely as everybody.
I just wasn't glued to the TV.
I don't know the specifics because I know what I saw.
Did you see the second video of George Floyd before Chauvin got there?
Resisting?
Yeah.
If that's resisting, that's the weakest argument I've ever seen.
Kicking your way out of the car and knocking people down?
Oh, dude.
I mean, come on.
This can't even be an argument here.
Yeah.
So maybe he's a little bit high. So maybe he's a little bit high.
So maybe he's a little bit cost-effective.
Should they let him go?
No.
What should they do?
What you do is you take him out.
You stand him in the car.
Ready?
Here's the real one.
You call the paddy wagon.
You call the van.
That's what you do.
Because they got vans for the canine unit.
Right? If you won't, that's all you do because they got vans for the canine unit. Right?
If you won't, that's all you do.
How hard is this?
Every district's got a van.
Go get a U-Haul.
I'm going to kill them.
I guess the issue is.
And I stand right because the jury said so.
It's officially murder.
Officially murder.
It was a murder.
You're right. If you believe in this system, this great democracy of ours, it's officially murder. Officially murder. It was a murder. You're right.
If you believe in this system, this great democracy of ours, it's a murder.
We now say he's murdered.
No, I don't.
Because Snowden's being persecuted.
There he goes.
Because there's white Jesus over here.
Assange is being persecuted.
I don't believe the system at face value.
But in terms of the formal official statement, yep, murder.
Yeah, according to the formal official statement.
Do you think he's murdered tonight?
Do you think that George Floyd was murdered?
No, I think he was high on opiates and fentanyl and would have killed someone.
And you?
I don't know.
You know why?
I watched the trial from start to finish.
I've seen the full body camera footage.
And I heard the girlfriend of George Floyd say that he was in the middle of a drug deal. was and that he ate a speedball I've been high on dope that he had enough have you been
choking me out do you know that he had 90 percent narrowing of the arteries around his heart
again choke me out and then my 90s gonna turn to a hundred but that's not murder you know he had
more than you're high and about to die and then someone I'm high and about to die in a cop man
he got his business on my neck
they never proved that they haven't proven what killed george floyd i know but so how do you prove
murder if you can't even prove the cause of death beyond a reasonable doubt this is getting all nice
this is a big conversation okay i've worked with people who had drug addictions i've worked with
people who are withdrawing from all kinds of drugs, and they had serious issues.
Like this is something that seriously complicates your life.
So when I hear that George Floyd was high on fentanyl, that's a serious complicating factor.
Do you know that he had more than a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system?
He did, yeah.
Do you know that he also, combined with the norfentanyl, probably took the drugs well before any interaction happened?
Yes. The judge even said it looked like George norfentanyl, probably took the drugs well before any interaction happened? Yes.
The judge even said it looked like George Floyd put fentanyl in his mouth.
Yes.
He also had a high amount of methamphetamine.
Exactly.
According to the state's own witnesses, Chauvin was entitled under the law to use a taser on George Floyd due to active resistance.
Derek Chauvin chose to use the lesser force option.
The knee wasn't on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds.
The prosecution's own body camera footage that was shown proved that Chauvin actually moved his knee off of George Floyd's neck and onto his back several different times.
Onto his back.
George Floyd actively resisted, and bystanders at first were yelling at George Floyd to stop resisting arrest.
He did resist.
And Floyd said no.
He did.
They called for backup.
Derek Chauvin was called on a priority one, six foot one, 220 pounds, resisting arrest. He did resist. And Floyd said no. He did. That's all true. They called for backup. Derek Chauvin was called on a Priority One, 6'1", 220 pounds, resisting arrest.
That's true.
And Chauvin chose to use lesser force according to the prosecution's witnesses.
And then again, that's all true.
So how is it murder?
Because you got the business on the man's neck and he put it on his back.
He can't breathe.
You knew he couldn't breathe.
We all saw he couldn't breathe.
You picked the man up
and you make sure he breathes.
Can I go to the bathroom now?
Do you know that according
to the state's own witness,
the amount of,
that fentanyl's
the most dangerous component
of fentanyl
is that it represses.
Who are you talking to?
You.
You know who I come from?
Do you know my people?
Do you know what I know
about fentanyl?
Yeah.
And cocaine?
That's right.
And alcohol?
Yep.
My people?
I'm from the south side of Chicago.
I completely understand.
I'm not going to buy that, man.
You make the last point.
Let me go to the bathroom.
You ask me if I think it's murder and I'll tell you this.
The witness for the prosecution said the most dangerous thing about fentanyl is that it depresses your respiratory system and your ability to breathe and results in hypoxia.
Now you're going to tell me that you don't have reasonable doubt.
Excuse me, brother.
A very dear loved one of mine died this past July.
Complications of fentanyl.
Just the fact that somebody gave it to him is murder.
Murder three.
And I can't get no justice.
Yep.
So please, let me go to bed.
Alright, let's do it. Well, with that being said
actually, that was a great end, man.
We're going to come back for the Members Only segment over at TimCast.com
so make sure you check that out.
Charlie's getting excited because he can swear now.
I want to shout out his website.
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I can't wait to get more of this work done
and launch these new shows,
but man, does it take just so much work.
Yikes.
Once we get the ball rolling
and we can get into the groove of things,
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Hopefully we can get this settled really, really quickly,
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We got another vlog ready to go. We're going to be filming again this Sunday. It's going to be a lot of fun. And then eventually we might change the name. I don't know. I decided to put up the vlog. We're going to put up more. We got another vlog ready to go.
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to see the guests behind the scenes hanging out in the green room.
It'll be awesome.
So, well, I guess Charlie's hitting the head.
Ian, you want to shout your stuff out?
Yeah.
First, I see you got a tweet from you earlier.
It says, abolish the police.
Hire social workers instead.
I am 100% serious.
Was that serious?
Did I say it was serious?
You did, but I don't trust anything you say on Twitter.
I said abolish the police and hire the social workers.
You know why?
No.
Because the city's voted for it.
Yeah.
Okay.
That was all I needed.
I'm at this point where it's like, dude, if people are like, this is what we would like,
please, I'll be like, then let them do it.
I don't live there.
Most people don't live in New York.
Most people listen to the show.
Listen, man.
If you are in – if you want your – you live in a city where you're fighting the good fight, but they have supported the riots.
I said it a million times.
You probably shouldn't be there anymore.
You should probably go find somewhere else where you can be more comfortable, whatever.
If the people want social workers,
let them have social workers.
All right.
It's like a Chinese finger trap problem.
We're trying to get our fingers out of this trap
by pulling as hard as we can. Maybe the solution
is actually to push the trap inward.
Or take a pair of scissors and just cut it in the middle.
But the thing is, man,
the community in large is not calling for that.
It's made for TV.
Sorry, man.
They're not doing anything to stop it.
So if elections have consequences,
they keep voting for leaders who push this stuff,
and they don't care about the consequences,
it's a tough world because if the masses believe something,
it's hard for them to get that word out.
You get one individual can make a YouTube channel.
So one person kind of consolidates power in the individual.
Or NBC.
And so they have a narrative.
Just telling you the word I get from Detroit, from the community, the people I know being on the block.
No.
They support police.
They want good, professional, non-A-kicking police.
They've got to come out in the streets and show their support.
They've got to put up the flags.
They got to say something because right now the violent mob.
The vast majority doesn't take to the street unless they got a reason to.
And if the cops get abolished, they might, right?
I'm just going to shout out.
They want more police.
IanCrossland.net, which is my website, and that you can follow me at Ian Crossland.
But also LaDuff is back.
Yeah, shout out your show, man, and your social media.
What do you got?
What is your show called? No. Are we on the new out your show, man. And your social media. What do you got? What is your show called?
Are we on
the new one? No, we're on the old one.
No BS News Hour.
Yes. No BS News Hour.
And you're Charlie LaDuff on Twitter.
I don't
remember. I see you follow
zero people. That's awesome.
I follow zero.
The only man I ever followed was my grandfather. Yeah, it's great. Follow zero. That's so legit.
The only man I ever followed was my grandfather.
Thank you.
The rest I'll have a talk with.
But I use the Twitters just to know what I'm doing, what's going on.
Just like the No BS News Hour.
Sweet.
Love it.
Thank you. Thank you for that.
Now, when do we get to the part where we can drink whiskey?
In about five minutes.
Really?
Give us five minutes.
Let Lydia shout out and then we'll get to that.
Can I go get a cigarette?
I actually have my first beer ever on the show thanks to Charlie.
Why don't you go grab your smoke right now?
Oh, so I know now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, this was awesome.
And man, this was awesome.
I love it.
So much fun.
Fun guests.
There we go.
High fives all around.
Heck yeah.
Well, we're going to be back with Charlie for the members only stuff.
He's going to grab a smoke.
Wait, he's going to give me a high five.
I missed and here I go.
Oh my gosh, no, we didn't see that.
We're good to go. Thanks, Charlie.
Alright, hold on. Let me do a quick shout out.
I'm going to go see what your hippies are doing.
Just come back up.
I'm good, but they're watching TV
and not doing anything, bro.
Yeah, they're just hanging out.
That's all good.
Okay, so I got onto Twitter, and I was kind of upset about the Minnesota thing
because Minnesota has voted blue every single election since 1984.
Okay, you guys?
They know what they're voting for.
They know what they're doing.
They gave us Ilhan Omar.
They gave us Keith Ellison.
They effing know what they're doing.
They're blue as heck, and they understand what they're voting for.
So the fact that Minneapolis is going down in flames,
I honestly encourage people to move out and toast your s'mores over the flames of Minneapolis
because what else can you do?
They understand what they're voting for.
They know what they're doing.
Anyway, enough incendiary talk.
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