Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #275 - FBI RAIDED Giuliani, So Begins Democrat Retaliation w/Jack Murphy

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join friend and fellow YouTuber Jack Murphy to discuss the FBI's raid of Giuliani's apartment, Biden's choice to call January 6th the worst threat to democracy since the Civil War,... Project Veritas massive victory against the New York Times, and Trump rallies possibly returning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The FBI has raided the apartment and office of Rudy Giuliani. They have seized electronic devices, and this may be one of the most consequential stories of our generation. This is the former president, the previous administration's lawyer. The lawyer. I mean, it's one thing for the feds to go after a lawyer. It's another thing to go after the lawyer of the guy who was just president. And that's what's happening. It has to do with whether or not, or I should say, it has to do with an investigation into whether or not Rudy Giuliani was lobbying the government on behalf of Ukrainians. Though I think most people are just going to look at this like retaliation from the Democrats. They have hated Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:00:39 They've hated his administration. And now they're using the DOJ, Merrick Garland, green lighting these warrants to go after those they don't like. And, you know, normally I wouldn't say this normally that, you know, my earlier segment on my main channel, I didn't say it was retaliation, but now I will say it is because you look at what Joe Biden has to say tonight. He's reportedly going to say that January 6th was the worst attack on the US since the civil war, on US democracy since the civil war. So it's very clear. They are going to use the full weight of government to go after every person who in some
Starting point is 00:01:14 substantive way was supporting the president to certain degrees. We've already seen the weird cult of Voteness say, don't hire these people. It could start there. Or it could be you help Donald Trump fight impeachment, something like that. Don't be surprised when the feds show up at your door. So we're going to talk about this. We also got protests lighting up in Elizabeth city. Again, more unrest. The judge has refused to release body camera footage in the shooting of a black man. These stories are not going to stop. And the left is going to say, you're right. The cops keep killing people or they're just going to keep exploiting death and ignoring the actual crime and tragedies in their own communities because it's all political.
Starting point is 00:01:51 So we're talking about this. Joining us today, of course, it's Jack Murphy Day. Hey, what's up, Tim? Lids. Hello. Ian. Good to see you. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Every other Wednesday. Jack Murphy. I'm back. Hey, do me a favor. Hit subscribe on my YouTube channel. Would you Jack Murphy live on YouTube? We're coming up on 50 K. Oh, nice. Very nice. 50 K, I'm back. Hey, do me a favor. Hit subscribe on my YouTube channel, Jack Murphy Live on YouTube. We're coming up on 50K. 50K. It feels real almost.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Feels real. What about you, Ian? Well, I'm Ian Crossland and you can follow me at iancrossland.net. Thank you very much. I'm Sarah Patchletts on Twitter. Sorry to mean to cut you off there, Ian. No, you didn't. You interfused. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's a mind meld. Yeah, it's true. That's what it is. A four-way mind meld let's get meld I'm sitting
Starting point is 00:02:28 here not saying anything you guys are doing part of it come on I was sitting here looking at my Japanese soda just like I wonder what flavor this is it's called original flavor sugar is original someone said four-way and Tim's like what's in the soda well I's in the soda? I'm not interested. Well, I walked in the house today and he goes, dude, dude, we got a bunch of crazy soda flavors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got huckleberry soda. Yeah, and cherry soda. Cherry soda. Good stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:53 It was funny. You're like, I'm going to put this in the freezer. And I heard you set the timer on Alexa. 20 minutes later, boop, boop, boop, boop. And you're like, you go, man, I hope it's cold. Yeah. Was it cold? Was it cold?
Starting point is 00:03:03 No, it was warm. Oh, sad. It wasn't enough. 20 minutes was enough. Sorry, dude. I'm No, it was warm. Oh, sad. It wasn't enough. 20 minutes was enough. Sorry, dude. I'm so sorry. All right, everybody. Tragedy strikes.
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Starting point is 00:03:44 It's going to be fantastic. Easier for all of you. We are setting up the newsroom. We are talking with potential new writers. It is going to be a blast. But let's jump into that first major story. Here it is. From Eyewitness ABC7, the latest update.
Starting point is 00:03:59 FBI seizes electronics from Rudy Giuliani's Manhattan apartment. They say federal agents carried out a search warrant at the home and office of former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani Wednesday morning. Sources familiar with the matter confirmed ABC News. Sources tell ABC News electronic devices, including Giuliani's cell phone, were confiscated by authorities. A spokesperson and attorney for Giuliani have not responded to ABC News. Wednesday afternoon, Giuliani's son, Andrew, who was mulling a run for New York governor, spoke briefly outside his father's apartment.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Quote, any American, red or blue, should be extremely disturbed by what happened here today. This is disgusting. This is absolutely absurd. And it's the continued politicization of the Justice Department that we have seen. And it has to stop. If this can happen to the former president's lawyer, this can happen to any American. They say the warrants were in relation to the Justice Department's investigation into the business dealings of former President Donald Trump's
Starting point is 00:04:52 personal lawyer. Notably, according to the New York Times, it was a FARA violation. So was he acting as a foreign agent lobbying on behalf of Ukrainians to Donald Trump? Or was this retaliation? Not only are they going after Rudy Giuliani, but according to the Wall Street Journal, they are trying to find communications between Giuliani and journalist John Solomon. You may recall the previous controversy when I think it was Adam Schiff, right, who was spying on an American journalist because he didn't like the information that was being published. And I guess he actually published private information from Solomon. It's been a while since we've covered that story. But my friends, what do you say?
Starting point is 00:05:32 I don't know. Banana Republic? Are we there? Has it happened already? There was a time in my lifetime where if the FBI and the DOJ served a warrant and they confiscated a bunch of documents and equipment and stuff, my first instinct would have been they probably have a good reason to do that today my instinct is they just trying to get everybody that had anything to do with donald j trump period because we see it across the board we see it with the january 6th folks we see it with people in the military people in
Starting point is 00:06:01 police you're not allowed to even have donated to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal defense fund. Anything that you do that runs contrary to what they want you to do is going to put you at risk. Heaven forbid you work with the president. You help the president. They want to get in there. They want to see his communications. They want to see his documents.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I mean, look. Go ahead. No, they've gone after people's jobs. We've already seen from the establishment don't let anyone get a job if they worked with the president with trump's administration so that's like the lowest level of it you're a trump supporter get out don't wear the maga hat you believe you're crazy you're a white supremacist now it's it's that it's elevates to anybody who's ever worked in the trump administration you'll never be allowed to work again or at least in their system which is why it's that it elevates to anybody who's ever worked in the Trump administration. You'll never be allowed to work again, or at least in their system. Which is why it's so important that we build our own networks.
Starting point is 00:06:49 But then you see what happens with big tech and the media. So I'm a little pessimistic now. I mean, we had some good stuff, you know, like the Falcon and Winter Soldier. I was all excited. I was like, the ending of that show is great. You know, this guy takes the American flag and beats Antifa with it. But that's just a TV show. That's not justice.
Starting point is 00:07:07 We watch what happens with the Chauvin trial. They're walking these jurors through riots with security, with, you know, with... What did Andrew say they had? MP5s or something? Yeah, I think so. Whatever guns they were using. They were using very serious weapons to protect the jurors. One of the jurors actually lived in the city where riots were happening. They were using very serious weapons to protect the jurors.
Starting point is 00:07:27 One of the jurors actually lived in the city where riots were happening. There was no justice. And we're watching this across the country. Now it's happening again. Then you get a story where it's the former previous president's lawyer is being raided by the DOJ. As soon as Merrick Garland gets in, appointed by Joe Biden, there it is. Green light. Go after those who opposed us.
Starting point is 00:07:46 You think Merrick Garland's got a bone to pick? I would say so. With Giuliani? Just in general, right? With the Republicans in general, right? I think we are watching the cult take over. Yeah. And it's been happening for some time. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 00:07:58 It's in everything. It's in every nook and cranny of every agency, every bureaucracy, every bureaucracy, cop chapter, every institution, everything. And it's like at some point we just have to accept it. I still, even in this work that I do and the conversations that I have and the research and the people I talk to, I still am a little shocked each time. I still am a little shocked each time. I still am a little sad each time. I still feel like a bit of my optimism and my idealization of America is still there. And so each time it just chipped.
Starting point is 00:08:35 So when am I going to become totally blackpilled? This is the question. And it hasn't happened yet. Where the next thing that happens, and I'm like, oh, yeah. Totally unsurprised there's two big issues the first is that the the you know the the cult the the establishment cronies have attained such a level of power that they can literally do this when donald trump you know chance lock her up at those rallies they're're screaming like, oh, heavens, we cannot be a country
Starting point is 00:09:05 that threatens to send the legal system against our political rivals. What's that? Trump's out of office? Send the legal system after our political rivals. Indeed. That's exactly what they do. But the other thing is the unwillingness of Americans to stand up for the principles of this country.
Starting point is 00:09:21 So before the show, we were talking about local police departments, and I'll tell you, I guarantee you, you will have a bunch of cops right now who are going like, man, I get it. You know, these guys are saying how bad it's getting, and I totally recognize the corruption in office. We got to do something about it. Then his boss walks in and he says, Johnson, go arrest Jack Murphy for sedition. He goes, you got it, boss. Hey, Jack, you're going to prison for the rest of your life. And you're like, what? I'm doing what I'm told because I don't care.
Starting point is 00:09:48 So long as regular people just go along with whatever the insane garbage is, it's not going to change. Well, the problem with the police department is you've got people that go in who are true believers who might now become cynical and not want to participate. Then you've got people that are doing it because it pays better than their next best alternatives and it barely pays and it barely pays so now you added this extra pressure to it you're not going to get the idealist you're not going to get the people with better options you're going to get people with even worse options saying this is my best choice to enter in this position that basically everybody hates no one wants around and you have to go do terrible dirty
Starting point is 00:10:23 work on people you're gonna get goons it's like venezuela these these the venezuelan soldiers are like i get food if i do what you know maduro wants and if i don't i don't get any food literally don't get any food if i don't see this is this is the thing that the the establishment cult like you know woke left and corporate neolib people understand way better than conservatives. It's that there is no loyalty among the average person to any of their fellow countrymen. They know that, which means you can literally have FBI agents who are like, man, this is freaking me out. And they go, now go arrest him.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Okay, boss, whatever. Gleefully being like, I swear an oath to the constitution. Is that a gun to To prison with you. That troubles me, dude. It troubles me that you say, and I agree with, and then I ask why. Why do your citizens feel no loyalty to their fellow citizens? If that's not the case, then the citizenry is too broad i think uh man we're we're a gluttonous lazy people that has for too long maybe maybe this past couple of generations have had no real struggle
Starting point is 00:11:36 you know just sitting around enjoying the the fruits of the previous wars and the labor of the previous generations. Now we've got fat homeless people. That's like how prosperous this country is. So now they become lazy and just like, I don't want to sacrifice my comfort for you. So you will get right now like cops who swear an oath of the Constitution and then violate the Constitution every single day and say, whatever. Well, in their mind, their their oath is to the constitution but their oath is to the guy who's giving them orders right in their mind it's like the constitution orders okay i do what they say yeah i'm not a lawyer i don't i mean i'm just projecting i mean i don't really know what's true we had andrew uh
Starting point is 00:12:18 on last night yeah and he was talking about that the chief police is a politician once you get to that level of the law enforcement, you become a politician. And they basically are political. We want to think of it as a civil movement, but the police are basically answering to the politicians. And if the politicians go in a political direction, the police... But it's the individual officer who can say no. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So I don't want to derail too much. We're talking about Giuliani and the point at which the federal government now is arresting its rivals. So let's go back in time. Let's go back in time to what, 2017, I think it was, when we started seeing – when was the battle for Berkeley? Was that 2017? It was after the election, yeah. Yeah, Milo was there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 So at this point, you're seeing these clashes and the Proud Boys show up. That was bike lock day, wasn't it? I think that was 2017. Yeah. So at this point, you're seeing these clashes and the Proud Boys show up. That was bike lock day, wasn't it? I think that was 2017. But then it happened again for the next year or so. And over the next year, I started talking about – I remember I was talking to a bunch of D.C. commentators and conservative journalists. And I was like, this is scary because the escalation of this is civil war. And then immediately I get pushback from these conservative, you know, DC folks who are like, oh, come on. It's just a bunch of people fighting in
Starting point is 00:13:31 the street. And I said, listen, at what point does this escalate further and further until it reaches the highest level of government? No, that's never going to happen. The security state is strong. It won't allow collapse, blah, blah, blah. Pretty sure when the DOJ seizes the cell phone of the previous president's lawyer, you're seeing the breakdown. Sorry. There you go. I mean I know we've had crazier with like Nixon and Watergate and stuff. Or I shouldn't even necessarily say crazier because maybe it wasn't. Maybe it was just crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:07 And maybe now when you combine the years of street conflict, the years of media manipulation, the lies and the foreign collusion, interference, all the crazy whatever with now that Joe Biden is in power, he brings in Merrick Garland. Merrick Garland goes after the Trump administration.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I don't think we've seen anything this crazy since the civil war and it's just getting started so the united states has been abroad as a foreign occupying force fighting counter insurgency battles against the insurgents they're trying to expel the government from their occupation it's exactly what they're going to do here now. They are a hammer. We are the nails. And this is going to be the war on terror 3.0. But it's really the war on drugs.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's really the war on Americans. This is the war on Americans 1.0. And they're going to use the entire apparatus that they have developed over two decades now of being an occupying force and squashing dissent. They're going to use it here in the United States. And, dude, we predicted this at the end of last year, and now it's happening. And now tonight is the night Joe Biden's going to go on TV.
Starting point is 00:15:16 He's going to call all the 400 people they've arrested in January 6th as the insurgents responsible for the most egregious attack on our democracy since the Civil War. They've already shown that they're trying to filter out the armed forces, the police, everyone else. If you just had any inclination to support Trump or Kyle Rittenhouse or anybody else, they're coming after all of us. The de-Trumpification is a real thing.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Why? We can't let this happen again. We have this article over the Daily Mail. I will turn peril into possibility. Biden will attack Trump with his speech to Congress by saying he inherited a nation in crisis after the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War. Wow, I can't believe he would say such strong words
Starting point is 00:15:59 about a year of Antifa rioting and $2 billion in damage. You know, just the other day, a week or so ago in Oklahoma City, Black Lives Matter stormed the Capitol building. Yeah. So it's good for Joe. Oh, wait. Hold on. Oh, he wasn't talking about that.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I'm being handed a note. He's talking about Trump supporters. That's not her. No, that's not her. Oh, he's not. Biden's not. Biden's not talking about stuff. No, that stuff wasn't.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah, that stuff was okay. Oh, that stuff's okay. Yeah, no, no. That's part of it. Those are the good guys, dude. They're the good guys all dressed in black. Those are the good guys. Yes. Really? Really. You ever see that? was okay oh that stuff's okay yeah no no that's that's part of it those are the good guys dude the good guys all dressed in black those are the good guys yes really you ever see that you ever see that bit i can't remember who the comedians was by where they're like dressed as nazis and then he like looks down and sees the skull and crossbones and he goes
Starting point is 00:16:35 we the baddies oh yeah like you're using the skull and the crossbone okay so that's a the comedy show the name just escaped me but those two guys from england hilarious history nerds yeah totally on point super funny and they would recreate these world war ii things and he that moment he looks he goes are we the baddies he's got there because they're wearing the skull and crossbones well so you look at what's going on now with antifa smashing and destroying but what's funny to me is they smash and destroy starbucks and then Starbucks is like, we're glad they did this. And in fact, thank you for destroying our bathrooms. Anybody who wants to come in and use the bathrooms at any time now, customers, otherwise, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Anybody. You can now use our bathrooms. Have you been in a Starbucks bathroom since I did that? I mean, no. It's like a homeless shelter. You know what, man? I'm kind of chilling. Everything is like being lit up around me.
Starting point is 00:17:23 And people seem to think that there's potentially going to be a federal takeover of police, but I really don't think so. How many FBI agents are there? There's no way they can have, well, there's like 800,000 to a million cops around the country. I really don't think the feds can take that over. Maybe they can try. Or maybe what's really going to happen is once the police departments go under, then there's no local enforcement. Laws become irrelevant to the average person. And then the country just doesn't exist in a meaningful way anymore. What's going to happen is the talent level of the police officers is going to degrade so poorly because no one with any other options is going to take that job. The police may be there, but they will be so ineffective and just able to be pushed around.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It will be worthless. So federal policing will be pushed around. It'll be worthless. So federal policing will become more important. How, though? How what? What do you mean? So maybe just singling out the FBI is a little short-sighted because there's other agencies, FPS, for instance, ICE, CBP. There's not nearly enough federal law enforcement down in the entire country.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Oh, yeah. No, no. Red states are – like people in rural areas are going to be Daniel, the entire country. Oh, yeah. No, no. Red states are like people in rural areas. Yeah. So without local law enforcement, federal law is going to be. Wait, wait, wait. Have there been sounds about a federal police force? Well, a lot of people have
Starting point is 00:18:36 been chatting us saying like if the local cops go, the feds step in or private police hired by the feds. Private police. Oh, I don't know about hired by the feds, but private police has been prophesied for a long time especially neil stevenson snow crash many many many years ago about ghettoed ghettoed and in the technical sense like isolated neighborhoods with their own police departments and known security departments etc that's definitely coming anybody with money is going to be hiring well so so so let's talk about the two potentials, right? That's the scary scenario.
Starting point is 00:19:06 If they abolish the police and then bring about their cult as the local officers, we are on a track that heads towards a totalitarian cult government. Could you imagine driving through a town and then they stop you and you don't know why they're stopping you or what's going on
Starting point is 00:19:22 and they throw you in a prison never to be heard from again because that's their local... And you can only hope the feds come and get you out somehow you can't hope the feds are gonna do anything that's all you have at that point look at what joe biden is doing if anything you're gonna be crossing your fingers that you make your way through a local town that's crazy because if you go through a red state there's gonna be a guy who's like excuse me sir what are you doing here and you're gonna be like just passing through and i'll be like keep mind you keep mind to yourself and have a good day it's the feds who are going to be like what's your excuse me sir pull over i couldn't
Starting point is 00:19:51 help but notice you're a white man can you give me your pronouns for your for your citation what's that you don't hope you're under arrest and you go to jail i'm nervous about this because also because if the local cops do resign they'll get they're the ones that would be first in order to get hired by private companies. If they're resigning, though, if they're resigning, that's because it should be a statement of position. Right. They don't support this. Look, none of that is all, I think, getting a bit too too far away from the big picture here. The big picture is a cop right now can watch their city being burnt to the ground
Starting point is 00:20:28 and be like, I don't care. And then when you literally have cops getting arrested and charged and then they'll look at you and be like, sir, is that a gun? Let's see, let me check the Bill of Rights, Second Amendment. Well, we don't need that one.
Starting point is 00:20:41 You're under arrest. That's amazing to me. That cops will swear out the Constitution and then look at it and go, oh, whatever. Guess not. Meanwhile, they can't arrest the extremists. The charges get dropped. The left uses the fact the charges are being dropped as evidence they're morally right
Starting point is 00:20:57 and the state is wrong. And they have $2 billion worth of damage in only a few cities over the past year with all the damage and destruction. Then you're going to get people like Juan Williams on Foxs on fox news saying cities didn't burn down that's a lie right people truly people don't believe that that happened truly people in washington dc believe that the boarded up businesses on january 5th were because that the MAGA rioters had come through the city all summer and destroyed everything. They honest to God truly believe it to the
Starting point is 00:21:30 point where I present them with alternative facts as in I was literally there. I saw with my own eyes not hearsay and they're like whatever blocked me on Facebook. They just literally cannot accept the fact that that was the case. You need only what was it? Who said this? I don't know if it was like a L that that was the case. You need only – what was it?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Who said this? I don't know if it was like Alinsky or Marx or something. You need like 11% of the population to adhere. Maybe it wasn't those guys. Maybe it was a different researcher. You need like 11% of the population to adhere to an ideology to take over the entire country. Because regular people, they will sell their own mothers. I genuinely believe the cops who remain in Minneapolis and these cities are the kind of people that would sell their mom for a quick buck
Starting point is 00:22:08 i feel the urge myself to criticize some of the law enforcement today but i also feel the urge to defend some of them there is something to be said for wanting to try to do your best to make change from the inside and you can't you can't you can't make change from the inside when you're under the boot of corrupt politicians. True, but there are, and I know them personally, there are still good people who are police officers who are trying to uphold the Constitution, who are trying to do the best, but they're being forced into untenable situation,
Starting point is 00:22:39 and it soon, soon, very soon, is going to come a point in which they have to decide whether or not they're going to make a statement by resigning. Or it's already happening. Or maybe they have to go undercover in a sense and like subvert their own views outwardly in order to be in a position to make change at some point in time. A sleeper cell, if you will. Throughout the country, we are seeing the good cops saying, no, I won't do this. And in many cities, many major Democrat urban metros, they're saying, you give me a stick, I'll beat my own mom with it.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I don't care. Just give me a paycheck. I'll do whatever you say for money. That's what they're doing. You get that guy on CNN, the D.C. Capitol cop. Oh, you know, doing that interview. These are, look are corrupt people exist. There's a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:23:29 The good cops, in my opinion, have said no and are refusing to abide by this insanity. And then you have you have, I guess, the banality of evil in those who are like, if we just get through the storm, it'll be OK. So I'll do it. They tell me for now, but maybe things will get better. Meanwhile, the politicians are getting worse. The cases keep happening. The system is being destroyed.
Starting point is 00:23:50 There's no justice. Why is the system being propped up? At this point, I'm just like, we need personal responsibility back. We need, the sooner we have personal responsibility, the sooner communities know that they're responsible for themselves, the better.
Starting point is 00:24:05 But it's not going to happen so long as you have people who want a paycheck who aren't going to back down. Well, that's never going to change. So what are we going to do? You can always pay people. I mean, hell, didn't we? That's the big picture. The revolution was like fought in part by hired guns. The Hessians.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah. Yeah. Bringing some German hired guns to help us out. So the issue, the bigger picture issue right now is no community in this country no willingness to stand up for your ideals your principles and your your fellow countrymen well there are a number of counties let's say in a local state here nearby virginia for example who decided to stand up to their own governor and their own legislature when they were trying to pass laws that would infringe on the Second Amendment.
Starting point is 00:24:47 They put out statements. They said, we will not honor these laws. We will not respect these laws. West Virginia even passed a resolution saying these counties in Virginia that want to maybe you want to secede from your blue psychopath, blackface, aborting baby, killing, MRF-er, Northam in Virginia. Maybe you want to secede from that state. You can join us in West Virginia. I think there are still jurisdictions where you can find the kind of people that are going to uphold the Constitution and do what we think is the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Right. I'm talking about the major urban metros. Yeah. Well, they're toast. Right. So I'm not talking about cops in West – I'm not talking about sheriff's departments or cops in West Virginia. It's a useful distinction.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Right, right, right. I'm talking about in minneapolis where like they're sitting there in a burning building going this is fine i'm like dude it's the beam get out stop letting them get like do these things and so the other the other big issue is especially with the federal government with what we saw with you know with giuliani look what the fbi is doing to these people some of these bumbling dotards who like walked through a door confused and bewildered at the capitol some people a large portion did storm their way in and were fighting cops there's a video i watched from the fbi where like a guy grabs a cop's mask and is shaking his head violently and i'm like that's messed up that guy should get
Starting point is 00:25:59 arrested don't do that but there are some people who are bewildered befuddled and just like walk through an open door waving a little american flag while the cops waved them and guided them in the building and the fbi is like shit tell us who these people are we're gonna arrest all of them you ain't seen nothing yet then antifa shows up and burns down a bunch of buildings and they're like yeah it's all right it's all right it's not all right it's not all right the system is completely broken the cult is taking over. And with Biden in power as president, going after Giuliani, there it is. So people like to say, I wonder if the reason why many of these lefties are like, Tim talks about civil wars because they don't want people to realize we're in one.
Starting point is 00:26:39 We are in a cold civil war. Cold doesn't mean it's not happening. Cold means it's not being fought with live ammunition. When the government steps up and starts arresting or seizing the cell phone of the former president's lawyer, like, okay,
Starting point is 00:26:55 this is the Patriot Act. But it is being fought with live ammunition because when we write cop-chopping aluminum ammunitions. Continue, please. of ammunition because when we write cop chopping aluminum ammunitions continue please when history is written about this
Starting point is 00:27:11 they're going to include Ruby Ridge in Waco Texas in the chronology of this experience right that is a hot conflict right well you've also got Antifa Black Lives Matter and Proud Boys and right-wing groups and the clashes totally so it's taken two to the chest so as you've talked about i've talked about
Starting point is 00:27:30 plenty it's definitely fourth or fifth generation warfare this is exactly what's happening where you've got disparate decentralized groups acting in uh in in accordance or sort of incoherence uh trying to achieve a plausible promise that can be achieved. They come together. They work towards that promise. It works or doesn't. Then they dissipate and they come back together again. We saw the network alliance this last summer between the corporations,
Starting point is 00:27:55 the radical left, the BLM and Antifa. We see a little bit of that splintering after the election with Antifa still being like F Biden. We want anarchy, all this stuff, But nobody paid too much attention to that part. So the Civil War is on, man. It's on. The Patriot Act basically set the stage. I remember when that got signed and thinking like, this is so ridiculous. Like, I didn't laugh, but I was like, this is so insane that now the government has the right to just like bust in my door and throw me in Guantanamo Bay. They don't. But, like I said, there are people who are going to be like,
Starting point is 00:28:29 there's going to be some federal agent looking at this going, man, this is crazy. Do you see the thing that you signed? And then the door opens up. Hey, Johnson, go beat the crap out of that guy and throw him in prison. You got it, boss. But it took 18 years. It wasn't acted on for the first decade or two.
Starting point is 00:28:44 What I'm saying is they don't need it. They could go right now to the average cop and be like, brutally beat that person. And they'll say, okay. They'll just do it. It really concerns me that they legalize that kind of thing. And then they waited like 15 years. And now they're starting to do these like going after Giuliani. Let me stop you again.
Starting point is 00:29:06 That's irrelevant. Well, going after Giuliani is with or without the Patriot Act. Right. The point is our culture, the community in this country, the culture in this country has been shattered a long time ago. And now you've got people saying, I don't care. I will enforce whatever you say. It's just easier that way. People wonder why, you know, just following orders in World War II Germany,
Starting point is 00:29:31 why would they do it? Because, man, people don't care. They literally don't care. There's no principle behind many of these people. Now, hold on. A lot of these cops, they quit. A lot of them say, I don't want to do this. But many of them who remain don't care. And I know there's a lot of them probably conflicted, but it's not just about the police. It's about federal law enforcement. It's about people in the military who would show up and follow whatever order because, well, I don't know. I don't have the information. I've talked, I've lived on a few different military bases, well, just off of Eustis. And I briefly was crashing in Fort Carson because I have family who was there. And I asked some of the lower, you know, enlisted guys and men and women,
Starting point is 00:30:17 if you were told, if you were given the order to shoot somebody, would you do it? And they were like, well, yeah, like you don't have all the information. They don't give you a pamphlet, like identifying the individual and what's going on they say stop that person now you do so it's not an issue it's the banality of evil it is not that individuals are like i'm gonna be evil today it's their boss comes in and says go arrest ian they go you got a boss well they're like wait they're like hold on sir is this in triple kit okay it's in triple kit all right i got it that's like the um the ape we're like ancestors of apes. We're just these like, we're really barely out of like the wild animal.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Would you say saltwater monkey bodies? Yeah, basically. The animal kingdom, man. We're in it. We are animal. Whether we want to think of ourselves as like this evolved thinking machine that isn't an animal anymore. Who thinks of themselves as that, dude? I think of myself as top of the food chain.
Starting point is 00:31:00 That's what I think. We're communal animals. And so we tend to follow the herd and the pack and we go where their food is going to be. And so when they threaten to take away the money or the food, I mean, that's scary. Well, not only that, but you touched on the real issue. Social exile. Social shame. Fear of being excluded.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Fear of becoming the worst thing possible. A member of the out group. Because you will die alone in the woods. That's right. Don't a member of the out group because you will die alone in the woods that's right don't want to be the out group doesn't even matter what the out group is you don't want to be it bro and so as long as the cult has corporate press no matter how much they lie people are desperate to follow the narrative of the of the you know the dude playing the the pied piper bro you got to give it to a man they won they won all the media all the institutions all the narrative tech they big tech corporations the government the narratives your thought processes your value system everything they won they totally won it will now take people willing to be part of the out group
Starting point is 00:32:06 in order to fight back against this. And that willingness to be part of the out group involves being financially in the out group, economically in the out group, politically in the out group, socially in the out group. You have to be willing to be a pariah and an independent operator in order to withstand what's happening and just to survive and maintain your sense of self and your sense of identity. But to fight back, holy crap, you need to be able to amass resources. You need to be able to amass teammates in a way that's still outside of the system. You're not going to go down to to your local college like round up a bunch of guys that are gonna see things the way we do and most people are going to duck and say i hope the fire
Starting point is 00:32:52 passes overhead and then within a few weeks there's a burnt crisp you mentioned they're like uh you're no longer allowed to have a bank but you need to pay property taxes on your house can't pay don't have money they're doing that already yeah then they seize property so you try and be outside the system but the system's still going to come for you unless you're on some distant planet which isn't feasible at this stage unless people start speaking up refusing to participate in a game in which they know their opponents are cheating but instead they're like i don't know you know i'm good for now i'll just shut up and just take what i can get you're right speaking up is key but also building like the
Starting point is 00:33:29 founding fathers we kind of talked about this before the show they spent two decades writing it out like creating it was like a century yeah like organizing a database and a plan so in addition to speaking up to have the basic you know the technology basically you know what i was really feeling jealous of earlier was like in the old days like the really old days you'd be like i hate this place i'm out of here and you could just roll off to some wilderness yeah there's nowhere there's nowhere to go now every place has been conquered every place is entirely true what where are you going to go where there's lawlessness, where you can set up your own country? I mean, set up your own country? If you're one person and you kind of want to be left alone, Mexico's got a lot of territory.
Starting point is 00:34:13 There's a lot of places in Mexico where you can go and kind of do your thing. There's that anarchist place. What state is that that Luke loves? Anarchapulco? No, that's just the name of it. Yeah, I don't know. That's just the name of a conference. I can't remember the name. There's a a conference. I can't remember the name.
Starting point is 00:34:25 There's a Southwestern... I can't remember the name of it, but Luke is like, it's anarchy. This town kicked out the government and the cops, and now it's totally anarchy. Well, that's cool, but they better have a lot of guns. The narco terrorists want to roll through there and take back their power. You better be able to defend yourself.
Starting point is 00:34:40 But what do the people have that they would want? It doesn't matter. My point is, where truly can you just go and chill not really i mean you tell me there build an island all right but you con territory alaska yeah that's probably true alaska's rad yeah dude you can just stroll up to the middle of alaska and just take a bus in there and then live in an old bus and then eat the wrong colored seeds and die yep you know that shout out so what was that movie into the wild you can go to alaska man it's beautiful a lot of fish still got that still got the fbi in alaska yeah but they're not gonna go up to alaska and bother you if all you do is fish all day and you mind your own business but if you speak up if you're loud they might start
Starting point is 00:35:22 yeah but that's you in like i'm saying if you want to just get away and you're like, I don't want to be a part of this anymore, ain't nobody's going to stop you. You can easily just go up to – I mean, dude, you can go to the middle of Nebraska even. Sure. I mean, eventually someone might knock on your door and they'll be like, I'm just some dude eating a fish. Like, leave me alone. And they probably will. I think there's a movement to make sure that it gets harder and harder to run away. You still got to pay property taxes in Alaska, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I bet. Unless you're just some dude who lives in a bus. I get it, though, if you have a family. But to your point about being able to just up and leave, you can. It's just really, really hard. It was really hard to get in a boat and cross the Atlantic and land on the eastern shore of the New World. It was really, really hard.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I hope you brought a sword because there's going to be some wild animals and you've got to figure out your food right when you get here. So maybe you do the same thing now. I mean, look, it's not even that buy some land in the middle of nowhere. It's not going to be that expensive. And Alaska pays you when you live there. I'm pretty sure that would cover your property taxes if you got like a couple acres. But that's only going to help you dip out if you really want to change the system and organize i mean you could do it under the radar like with encryption and like you know networks that aren't seen but i don't even know
Starting point is 00:36:32 that you know how they did it in the old days the old old old days ancient days like the philosophers they wrote their messages in what they call esoterically where they would say one thing up here but the real message was under here for the people that could parse it. And they were still able to manage talking about philosophy and politics at the same time as existing in a political state, where philosophy often challenges
Starting point is 00:36:58 the political state, right? Because you're talking about politics, right? In most cases. And this was a style of communicating that was able to mask the underlying message so we're gonna have to get better at that that's for sure let me just being 280 characters just like i'm gonna sedition i'm gonna rain on the parade of everybody what parade there's no parade you're gonna rain on my funeral so there there are people who still are
Starting point is 00:37:22 like no you know i'm gonna rain on the parade of those who have a little optimism left. Oh, right. Okay. Thank you. Shove those black holes down their throats. Let's just make the rain. It's not just rain on the parade. It's acid rain.
Starting point is 00:37:33 It's acid hail. Stuff on fire. It's hailing. There's lightning. A lot of friction. The wind is kicking up. People are standing there. Their skin is peeling.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Okay. Did you know that illegal immigrants in this country have their have votes represented in the presidential election yep i did not i did not know that it's very simple the electoral college is comprised of it's it's basically however many states how many representatives they have, they get an electoral vote. Illegal immigrants are counted towards representation in Congress. So when California says sanctuary state and starts bringing in as many people as possible and incentivizing it with free health care like they did for people under 26, they then say, now we have 7 million people.
Starting point is 00:38:19 We'll take 10 congressional seats and 10 electoral votes, please. And it works. That means figure out how many illegal immigrants are in this country. Now they may not be directly voting, but so long as they live in California, we're not a direct democracy. We do not win the presidency off the popular vote. So it doesn't matter necessarily if an individual casts the vote. It matters if the state chooses who to vote for. And if the state has more congressional seats because they allow illegal immigrants into the country, well, then they have more is of greater likelihood that the Democratic president can win because California has an obscene amount of congressional representation because they not necessarily because of illegal immigration is actually reading. Center for Immigration Studies, which the left calls like far right.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And they don't say it's actually that much. It's like one extra vote. But that still matters in the context of what I'm talking about. You want to talk about a collapse in the system. You want to talk about Joe Biden going after his political rivals, you know, Donald Trump's lawyer. How long has it been at this system that you could be not a citizen and still influence the presidential election? And so what happens then, because of that simple fact, the Democratic Party is
Starting point is 00:39:31 incentivized to get more congressional representation right now. Trevor Noah from The Daily Show has a segment where he's saying 89 people, 89 people in New York didn't fill out their census. Come on, men. And now all of a sudden we lose a congressional seat. That's how important it is. And an electoral vote. It's lose a congressional seat. That's how important it is. And an electoral vote. It's not about voter fraud or people voting. It's about congressional representation and the electoral college. That's what you get when you have more people.
Starting point is 00:39:55 This isn't the first time, though, that the United States has based their electoral votes on non-voting populations, right? No, of course. Right. Slavery, obviously obviously is the very first good example of that uh dude i'm feeling it i'm feeling all that and that's exactly why when uh donald trump proposed in the 2020 census to actually ask people who were being counted if they were citizens of the united states that the left freaked out about that whenever the left freaks out about something that is perfectly rational like are we counting citizens here are we just counting every schlub
Starting point is 00:40:32 that walked across the street because it determines how many votes we have in congress and all these things when they're freaking out about something that's perfectly rational then you know it's part of their their game plan all right i'm gonna do a 180 a 180 now, and I'm going to be a rain of sunshine on your parade. Oh, bring it. The sky is clearing up. The acid rain is going away. People are now looking up at the sunlight. I don't trust it.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Although their acid rain-riddled skin is being hurt by the sunlight, they're still smiling to see it. I'm going back underground now. No, you're going to love this one. Ladies and gentlemen, we got this amazing story. Check this out. Project Veritas has an update in their lawsuit with the New York Times and the New York Times is
Starting point is 00:41:12 tripping over themselves and taking a dump on their own credibility in a desperate attempt to stop James O'Keefe. It's glorious. So James put out an update video. The defense the New York Times is going with is that they have no idea what's going on. They didn't actually investigate James O'Keefe or his story.
Starting point is 00:41:30 They didn't talk to any people involved or ask anyone for comment. It was a bunch of opinions, and they're completely ignorant of anything that happened in this case. This is their without malice part of the argument. But this means that James O'Keefe has just taken an ax to the base of the fake news narrative tree. Yep. In the Veritas video, they point out how after the New York Times says this, USA Today cites the New York Times saying Project Veritas is part of coordinated disinformation. Then you get Wikipedia and you get Twitter, Facebook, all running the same story and banning this based on the fact that the New York Times said it was true. And now the New York
Starting point is 00:42:10 Times has admitted in no uncertain terms in a court of law, one, it was just our opinion. Two, we didn't actually follow up on any of this story. And three, we honestly have no idea what's going on anyway that's malicious yeah well malicious is a reference to knowing it's false right so what they're saying is we're totally clueless about this story so it can't be malice maybe not malice um what would you call it not legal when you just like fire a gun everywhere without looking and then it hits somebody yeah negligence evincing a depraved mind. Negligence was the word I was looking for. Negligence, is that illegal?
Starting point is 00:42:48 Can you hit someone on negligence? What I love is that all these news organizations take the same tact. It's like, oh, we're not actually reporting facts. We don't actually investigate stuff. We're just talking. It's fair. We're just speculating. It's like willful negligence.
Starting point is 00:43:00 It's one thing when Tucker Carlson is defending himself in a suit and says it's an opinion show that no one should take seriously or whatever. It's another thing when the New York Times runs a fact-based news story in their main news section and has to admit to the court these are not opinion writers. These are news reporters who published in the news section unverified opinions that they did not investigate anyway. So they're either malicious or incompetent, dumb or diabolical. Yes. All the things that we've been talking about for years now coming to the forefront.
Starting point is 00:43:32 But guess who's going to care? Guess how much traction that story is going to get? Guess how much of an impact that's going to make in American people's minds that the New York Times admits that they don't fact check, they don't research, they don't investigate the stories that they put out as fact. How much influence is that going to have? None. That much, guys.
Starting point is 00:43:51 That much. Are you making a – No, it's a neck thing. It's a neck thing. Did you see the story of the Jeopardy contestant who did the three-pointer hand sign because he won three times and they started screaming he was a white supremacist? Oh, my gosh. You know what's funny is that this guy could win Jeopardy and still not understand the context of the O'Brien gesture.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Definitely not. Dude, you read trivia all day. Certainly you read the news story about why you don't make that hand sign. Because that's certainly trivial. So Project Veritas still – this is good because it is part of the battle, and Veritas is suing Twitter as well and CNN. And they're probably going to win. Yes. And it's going to empower Veritas more.
Starting point is 00:44:30 And at least, you know, someone is fighting back and having a good go at it. However, regular people watching CNN won't hear it. And the people who already like Veritas will and be like, good. But it's a tool for all of you. If you're somebody who is sick and tired. Yes, you, Ian.
Starting point is 00:44:50 No, him. No, Jack. If you're somebody who has friends and family, and I know it's difficult because a lot of people are like, my parents, my friends, they won't watch this stuff. They won't read the news anyway. They don't want to hear it. It's one more thing where you can be like, oh, hey, look at that. The New York Times admits they don't actually fact check their stories. At the very least, you can do this. this dude they won't even believe it though you could read it to them new york times in the new york times them saying they don't they
Starting point is 00:45:12 won't even believe it but no no no it's all about how you present it if you go to a family member let's say you got a joe biden supporting family member and you go to them and go biden is awful you know i'll tell you i can't believe you vote for me you argue with him like get out of here get out of here but if you walk up to him you go do you and go, Biden is awful. I'll tell you why. I can't believe you vote for him. And you argue with him. Get out of here. Get out of here. But if you walk up to him and you go, do you see that crazy thing, that lawsuit or something? The New York Times apparently admitted they don't even fact check their stories. Weird, huh? And that's it.
Starting point is 00:45:35 That's all you say. It's neutral. That's good. It's just, I don't know. And then they're like, what does that mean? They're like, I don't know. I guess I'll subscribe to USA Today or something because, yeah. And you don't make it a big thing.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You don't tie it to things. You just tell them outright. So you're sitting there and you're like, did you hear about that story the other day? Like I guess – like the New York Times got sued and then they came out and just admitted their news stories have unverified opinion. They're not fact-checking. Man, that's crazy. I guess I'll probably just take a different paper I guess. That's crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:46:04 The Washington Post, they used to do fact checking of the president they stopped doing that did you hear that oh yeah something with joe biden yeah something with joe biden joe biden's president we don't need to fact check him because he's not actually really saying those things they just announced that today they just announced that today because they don't think it's actually joe biden no it's whoever's writing his talking point so therefore they don't need to fact check the president okay guys hey george bush went into iraq but you know what it was based on the information of other people that they gave him but it doesn't matter doesn't matter no one needs to be held responsible for anything anymore because uncle joe papa joe he president now and everything's okay
Starting point is 00:46:37 yeah i love these tweets from the the establishment lefties who are like i woke up on sunday and everything was great because Trump didn't tweet. And it's like you open the news and it's like Joe Biden bombs Syria or whatever. Did he bomb Syria already? No, he didn't, right? No, no. I believe that they did. And I believe.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Oh, they did. Yep. And there was also a shot fired at an Iranian ship, I believe. Oh, yeah. I remember that because I tweeted that one out. I said Orange Man made me do it. Sorry. Biden launched an airstrike
Starting point is 00:47:10 against Syria one month into his residency. Exactly. So it's like, you know, these people are all cheering. Have you seen that commercial where the woman, she's working at a shop and the flowers in the shop are talking to her and she's singing and it's like Disney. And the puddle goes, I'm going to put Lisa on crutches.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And then everything turns back to normal and she goes, what? And then the guy's like, you know, you got to get crutches, man. And it's, you know, an insurance commercial or something. It's a good commercial. But I see that and it reminds me of like these Biden people who are now posting Biden sucks. You know, Biden voters posting their L's. There's a Twitter account for this. And it's the people who are like during the election going like, yeah, they're all like
Starting point is 00:47:46 singing Good Morning, Starshine or whatever and holding hands under the rainbow. And then a month and they're like, everything is dark and gloomy and awful. And there's a dark filter on the lens that makes you just feel miserable. You know what's interesting? I thought that being right would make me feel good. No. It really, really does. It makes me feel worse. would make me feel good no it really really doesn't feel worse it makes me feel worse it's being part of the crowd that makes you feel good yes being right
Starting point is 00:48:11 when everything's going so wrong every step of the way it's like if you have a lot of people with you agreeing with you and acknowledging that you're right it helps bro i have 108 000 now people on twitter agreeing with me largely and it still doesn't help. It makes me feel terrible being right. The greatest people in history died in poverty. They were hated throughout their lives. They were persecuted. They were like Socrates was made to drink poison.
Starting point is 00:48:38 They weren't accepted, but that doesn't make them wrong. So maybe you're one of those people. Well, I'm definitely not in poverty. So I'm winning. Socrates got you, buddy. You're doing better than the soap. Great. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:48:51 It's kind of worrying to me that we've built a culture, a society of people who are desperate to just be a part of the crowd. You would think we'd be past that. No, no, no, no. We didn't build a society that does that. That's human nature, bro. That's human nature everywhere, all across time, all across everything. Why? Because we thrive in small groups.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Yeah. But look at Sparta, dude. Those people were nuts. That's the opposite. We don't want to go that direction either. But I'm saying like that you can build a society that's like, I mean, they would like, what would they do? Wouldn't they like test babies?
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah. They would kill any sick babies. No, but wouldn't they like hold them underwater or something i don't know but some something ridiculous where it was like if the baby survived it was strong enough warrior keep warrior kids would fight in the military from age uh either six or eight to thirty every every spartan was in the military for me i'm not i'm not all about that they were trained but we have the opposite, where it's like, you know, you've seen Idiocracy, right? Those that reproduce the most
Starting point is 00:49:49 win, so it's like, you combine Idiocracy with WALL-E, where you have all the people just morbidly obese in hover chairs, and that's what we've been for a long time. We've been a nation of just life's too good, too easy, no conflict, no challenge, no struggle, and it's our own, well, I'd say it's our own fault, but I wasn't alive.
Starting point is 00:50:09 And I think we here on this show are trying desperately to get people to care about the future of this planet and things like that. But there are people of previous generations. I guess it's good men – I'm sorry. Good times make weak men. Weak men make hard times maybe the hard times are going to make some strong men in the next generation that things will turn around that american dream where they're like i'm just going to get my own little plot of land and everyone else can screw off and i'll protect my family and everyone else goodbye that's that's not good
Starting point is 00:50:37 because what that's done is created like this subsect of plutocrats that are like i'm going to protect myself and let the rest of society no no, no, no, no, no, no. The number one factor to resist tyranny is the power to feed and protect yourself. If you have land and you can feed yourself, that is the best protector against tyranny there ever was. That is why Rome, it was a big deal to have land to take care of yourself and as soon as they stop as soon as like land owning stop being as dispersed as it was warriors and soldiers couldn't own land anymore or it stopped becoming a requirement uh in order to be a uh in the army land holding got consolidated by wealthiest aristocrats and the people didn't have land
Starting point is 00:51:21 to take care of themselves that's the problem in In America, if everybody was homesteading, if everybody could have their own food, their own energy, their own warmth, their own land, their own security, well, that is a mighty fine resistance to tyranny. So you're saying it's like when the wealthy took away the ability of the regular people to have land and survive, they became dependent upon that system. Yes. Where are you leading me, Tim? I don't know. I'm thinking about this and I'm wondering what if the workers of the world united? Oh, I see. Workers of the world. That was too gentle. You were just drawing me in there. You're like, what are you doing? No, how about this? Farmers of the world unite.
Starting point is 00:52:02 That's better. Hold on. See, they take that statement, workers of the world unite. That's better. Hold on. See, they take that statement, workers of the world unite, and it's become a bad thing because of the darkness that's behind it. But regular working people agreeing to defend each other from
Starting point is 00:52:19 exploitation and the corrupt political elites is not a bad thing. The bad thing is when the corrupt political elite says, hey'm we're gonna get all the workers to unite now just do as i'm do it do as you're told or else exactly that's the problem to clarify the american dream or whatever of having your own land and protecting having and how that's a problem is that i think that some people just stop there and that's it and then they don't care about other people and and so they they're okay if other people are suffering like well he arrested that's it. And then they don't care about other people. And so they're okay if other people are suffering. Like, well, he arrested that guy.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It's not my problem. And the isolationist mentality that kept us out of World War II, for instance. So there's more to it. Yeah, you want your own property and your own food. But you have to think about and care for others. I know it's not like you don't want to politicize it and make people do it. But we need to do that. What's funny is about when people do have their own land and their own sustenance and their own heat and their own protection, the need to actually engage with and care about other people and your interaction with it just decreases. Right. It's that connectivity, especially over long range distances to bring us all together into this proximity that we're not accustomed to.
Starting point is 00:53:25 This is actually part of the problem. And that's why they want everybody to have guns. In the good way. Right, right, right. You have your property. You don't really, you know, have you guys seen, you've seen the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson? Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:38 What an amazing movie. But the British hate it apparently because it makes them look like villains. Oh, the British? It was pure propaganda. But there's that scene where Mel Gibson's like, we're going into town and they're like, British hate it apparently because it makes them look like villains. Oh, the British? It was pure propaganda. But there's that scene where Mel Gibson's like, we're going into town. And they're like, oh, we're going into town because you don't go into town. You live on a farm.
Starting point is 00:53:53 You work. You do nothing but work. Going to town was like a rare thing. Before the telephone. Right, right. It's like a mail carrier has delivered a mail and everyone gathers around. What is it? What's the message?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Oh, man, because I've been looking at chickens for six months. Give me something to read. But so what happens is back then, everybody needs to be ready and able to defend themselves. Because if someone starts invading your land, how will you get word out to the local militia or to the community? You got to be ready and able to defend yourself. Then conflict starts word will spread eventually and then people can start mobilizing but in the meantime you need to be able to have to have you you need to keep in bare arms i'm gonna agree with ian a little bit on this one because this is actually something i've really been thinking about and i'll explain myself this is like the underlying idea okay so this is the problem that i've actually watched you can make fun of me. I don't care. I'm making fun of Ian, but I love Ian.
Starting point is 00:54:47 We know this. It's fine. Okay, let me finish. Okay, so this is the underlying issue, I think, in like the Libertarian Party. And to some extent in the conservative movement is that this idea of the individual is so much higher than every other ideal. And I understand how important that is, and I fully respect and appreciate that. That's crucial. But Ian is right that we need to have that community and tim just talked about that he's like you need to be able to defend yourself you need to be able to gang up with other people when
Starting point is 00:55:12 it's time to rise to the occasion and fight the bad guys that's right a well-regulated militia exactly like that's a group you know yeah and by regulated i think we mean trained and equipped right functioning functioning it doesn't necessarily mean trained and equipped, right? Functioning. Functioning. It doesn't necessarily mean trained. It just means functioning. Functioning. Yeah, so in The Patriot, I love the end where I think it's Cornwallis. He goes, he's like, what does he say? Like, are my eyes deceiving me or is that militia forming at their center? Yeah, because the militia weren't trained.
Starting point is 00:55:38 They were right, but they were functional. They were forming up. They were functional. They had weapons. They could follow orders. They could generally cooperate in such a way, but they were not trained. I got to say, man, it's really funny when you look back at history and you're like, why would anyone fight a war that way? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:52 Like marching with drummers. There was a meme on Reddit, and they were like, someone said, I cannot understate the absurdity of the fact that armies had drummers marching into battle just playing a drum. Like, dude, you're going to die. What are you doing? Not careful allocation of resources, I guess. It was before radio. That's how they communicated with troops. They'd be like, turn right. And the horns.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And the flags and all that stuff so they knew where to go because you couldn't hear someone yell. But the crazy thing is, people need to realize this. Man, we're all really standing on the shoulders of giants. The crazy thing is that if you took the average person and dropped them, man, we're all really standing on the shoulders of giants. The crazy thing is that if you took the average person and brought them
Starting point is 00:56:30 back in time a few thousand years, they certainly aren't going to be building nuclear fusion reactors or probably even very complex machines, but they know what a wheel is. They know what a gear is. They know how to make bread. I assure you. Not good bread, but you take the average person, how do you make bread?
Starting point is 00:56:45 Like, I don't know, flour, water, an egg or something. They'd figure it out really quickly because they've seen it. Whereas thousands of years ago, people would be like, what's bread? Take a regular person. They'll be like, see that stuff? Mash it up. And they'll mash it up very poorly, mix it with some water, and then put it over a fire, and they'll get some crappy bread. But to everyone else, it would be shocking.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And they could be like like check out a wheel there's basic things that we know simply because we've grown up in a world where we stand on the shoulders of giants so when it comes to warfare it seems obvious to us what kind of moron would just march in a field very slowly and then just stand there why weren't they taking cover i don't take it for granted the transition between like sword based you know infantry battles and the rifle-based battles were bad ones. Look at what happened in the Civil War. Civil War, we were using old-school techniques of some fronts and storming at each other and all that with these guns and cannons. With percussion-cap revolvers.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Right. And so many people died. So many people died so many people died and i think that's one reason why we didn't get involved in world war one as soon as soon as the other countries because we had a very visceral memory what it was like to use stupid ass old techniques against modern weapons and so many people died just like they did in world war one it was devastating travesty france they would they would get out of the trenches and charge towards machine guns which is the first time they'd ever been used in war i mean the modern machine guns you've seen gallipoli have you seen the movie gallipoli with mel gibson when he's like 18
Starting point is 00:58:12 oh dude you have got to watch that yeah what's it about uh it's about him in the australian infantry and they're in turkey it's near the end of world war one and it's about him as a courier trying to stop, I don't want to ruin it, trying to stop a rush coming out of the trench into the machine guns. Oh, it's like 1917. Yeah, it's like that. Have you seen it? Have you seen it? I have not.
Starting point is 00:58:35 I mean, that movie's awesome. Amazing. The whole movie is in the style of a single shot. No breaks. And it follows, yeah, twomen like going it through it's world war one yeah world war one and it's and it's it's amazing yeah so the camera does have cuts they do things where like it goes past a tree but the time is it's real time oh fascinating movie's amazing and it's similar story so in that regard the fact that we're fighting our
Starting point is 00:59:03 conflicts now with china and internally in a fourth or fifth generation warfare situation with economics, information, morality, emotions, all these kind of things, rather than just force on force. There's a little bit of evolution there. It reminds me of that old Star Trek, right, where they're just like, we're at war with this planet. And, OK, we've decided there will be this're just like, we're at war with this planet. And okay, we've decided there will be this much casualties in this war. And they just send people off to their little death camps. Star Trek? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Star Trek. Where they just calculated the casualties and everybody had to suffer.
Starting point is 00:59:38 And some people just walked off. They didn't actually fight the wars. They just calculated the wars. I don't remember that. Which series was it? Oh, like original. Original series? Okay, maybe.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Yeah. Someone in the chat will bring that up. Definitely. It reminds me more. Sorry. A better analogy, I think, is Zapp Brannigan in Futurama when he said that he defeated the kill bots by realizing they had a preset kill limit.
Starting point is 01:00:00 So he just sent wave after wave of his own men until that limit was reached, and then they stopped fighting. Oh, yeah. Sort of like Sherman. There you go. Brutal. What were you going to say, bro? We're all looking at you now. I don't know if there's an end point to this, but we've always used those techniques that we have now. We call it fifth dimensional war or whatever. Generational. Yeah, the love of fighting for the soul. Fifth dimensional
Starting point is 01:00:23 war. Traveling through time and space in alternate dimensions not gonna feel good jack posobics next book false flags and getting people to fight for something that did wasn't real you know was was an ancient an ancient thing because if you can as long as you can frenzy people into wanting to do it that's really the well you know what was even easier was like let's just go get rich, y'all. That was easy. Extracting wealth? Yeah. Conquests. The Vikings. Dude, they just went and invaded England just to get gold chalices. Now, let's
Starting point is 01:00:53 get back on track for a second. Oh, right. Giuliani. Well, no. We just talked about Veritas and the victory. And I want to keep raining down sunshine on people. It started really dark. I mean, the Giuliani's are freaky.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Feels good. Ladies and gentlemen, we've got a secret weapon. You ready for this ultimate secret weapon? I'm ready. It is the return of MAGA rallies. I'm kidding. It's not a secret weapon. But Donald Trump is planning.
Starting point is 01:01:20 He may hold MAGA rallies beginning in May, according to a report. The Trump rallies are according to a report. The Trump rallies are going to come back. And, you know, I jokingly say it's a secret weapon, but it is going to start kicking things back up, getting people back in focus. Maybe not, you know, there's some bad people, I guess. But the general idea is getting people to center around something, probably something better than, I don't know, just pessimism and black pills. Yeah. Man, I hate trashing Trump because he's not a horrible human, but I don't like that he's the guy.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I mean. Yep. That's right. He's got many fatal flaws. Many. One of them is this desperate need to be liked. Yeah. Has to be liked.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And as Darren B very astutely pointed out on our last Friday sessions, check it out. YouTube.com forward slash Jack Murphy live. He was an insider, Trump insider. I also interviewed Amanda Milius at the same time and also a trump insider and they both were very honest and very open and candid about the flaws of the trump administration from the perspective of true maga believers who were appointed by the president right so this is an honest assessment as you're going to get and one of the things that they drilled down on was the fact that trump needed to be liked and what that translated into was him saying things like oh there's no there's everybody
Starting point is 01:02:49 loves us on campus oh there's no just there's no there's no conflicts in the street oh everybody everything's great everything's great about this everybody loves us right but at the same time there was actually violence you couldn't wear a manga hat on campus there was actually violence at the balance there was actually people actually people attacking other people for supporting Trump. And so his desire to reframe everything as, no, they love us, actually ran cover for the negative things that were happening on the ground. And so when he makes noises about 2024 or starting the rallies again, don't get excited i truly am not excited about that i i wish i were i wish there was a 3.0 person who was like ready to beat the trump that we really need now uh but uh that person hasn't seemed to materialize just yet and trump santas
Starting point is 01:03:43 you know i i just don't i i've watched him in florida i don't know too terribly much about him the people of florida may not vote for him as president because they want him to stay governor you never know crazy things have happened trump had that star power he was a famous famous business mogul like who it'd be like mark cuban elon musk like who's a zuckerberg you know some crazy not him obviously i mean trump before he was president more famous than all three of those guys are now yeah i wish so famous i wish zuckerberg would have run on the democratic ticket that'd be cool in 2020 you know why because then he would well actually i don't know if he would have won but it would have been
Starting point is 01:04:17 hilarious to see him trying to everyone would have been the worst possible thing for the people of this planet but it would have been hilarious to have like you know zuckerberg is like a combination of data from star trek and the joker he looks like data right he really looks like data so oh so like uh like lore basically well no no no no in star trek lore is data's brother he's another but he's like megalomaniacal yeah that doesn't really work no no like data they did a good twin bad twin stick with data and his android well so the the original uh i think lore was first synthetic humanoid was with emotions and he became sociopathic oh so then data was created without emotions and had to like learn or whatever but no no it's not a fair comparison it would actually be like you know data wasn't was it was a good person you know struggling and trying to learn how to become
Starting point is 01:05:08 human you take that element of the very analytical data driven and combine it with the joker and you get mark zuckerberg it would have been a hilarious presidency that's awesome but but he's more powerful now right so he didn't want to do it. And that's a sad statement when we find out that the corporations are more powerful than the presidency of the United States. That's a problem. You know what I love? Libertarians, fix that. Let me tell you. I've been laughing all day.
Starting point is 01:05:36 So you might not know this, but I actually got heavily involved. Well, I got heavily involved in politics through just general activism when I was younger and music, and I worked for nonprofits. But there was a period where I started hanging out at hacker spaces in 2010, 2011. So I became friends with a lot of very prominent hackers in these spaces, hacker spaces. And at the time, Anonymous was really big, the hacker collective online, and a couple other groups like telecomics. Some of these individuals stayed true to their data love and libertarian principles of rejecting authoritarianism. But something really interesting happened.
Starting point is 01:06:14 There's a hacker convention called DEF CON, which is a very prominent, the biggest hacker convention. They also have Black Hat, which is very corporate. And we were watching, like my friends, some of these very prominent, well-known, famous hackers, the woke infestation, and activists started coming to the hacker conferences, people who were not hackers at all, who didn't understand the culture, didn't understand the symbols, didn't understand literally anything about hacker culture, but they liked the activism that they saw from hackers, so they started coming in. Some of these people at the time were very, very anti intelligence agency. I mean, there were people screaming and ranting about spying and all that stuff. And something really interesting happened. I think it was a few years ago, uh, for, uh,
Starting point is 01:06:58 one guy was speaking at DEF CON and made a statement where he was supporting law enforcement and the audience started clapping and cheering. where he was supporting law enforcement and the audience started clapping and cheering. And he was like, wow, never thought I would give a speech at DEFCON and have people cheer for the federal government. And they were cheering because he was speaking about Russian interference and things like that. My favorite thing all day, I've been just laughing, slapping my knee, are some of these hacktivist Antifa people that I know cheering on the FBI right now. And so I've been commenting on their pages. I'm like, I am so glad to see you've been de-radicalized and you're on board with the federal government. You know, I was really worried
Starting point is 01:07:36 because you were very anti, you were very extremist anti-government when I knew you. To see you now fully on board with authority and the liberals running the government, it's a good thing. And all of a sudden, their brain's like, you broke them. Did it work? They're rebooting. We'll find out. Right? They'll come back with something else.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It won't matter. There's no way to shake people free. There is. Even with logic in their own behavior held up to them with a mirror one inch from their face. It's like one out of ten people. It takes trauma. It takes serious trauma where you finally have to admit that your mental model of the world is not leading you into productive outcomes. I got it.
Starting point is 01:08:18 I got it. I got an idea. Uh-oh. Here's what you got to do. All right? Acid hail. No. Go to your friends and family
Starting point is 01:08:26 the ones that you know the ones that are still talking to me and be like do you guys wanna go see this band play you wanna go see a band and then when they're like oh sure we're gonna go out and see this big show it's gonna be fantastic it's gonna be this famous
Starting point is 01:08:42 saxophonist or something and then you bring them to a MAGA rally and then you pull up in the parking lot you walk up they're like why is everyone wearing manga hats like oh i don't know and then you get them in and then they're standing there like what's going on and all of a sudden trump comes out and then they're gonna be like what's that but then they're gonna see it's a bunch of regular people and everyone's gonna be smiling there's gonna be babies and there are people gonna be shaking hands and donald trump's gonna be you know i'm kidding by the way. Don't really do that. Oh, I was like signing people up in my head, visioning in my mind what was going to happen
Starting point is 01:09:09 when he starts going, lock her up, lock her up. Well, I don't think he'll do that now. Especially because Giuliani's going to be in jail. We just watched earlier the Curb Your Enthusiasm where he gets the idea to wear the MAGA hat. It was so good. Because he has to have a meeting. Larry David has to have a meeting with a guy he doesn't like. So he gets the idea to wear the MAGA hat. It was so good. Because he has to have a meeting.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Larry David has to have a meeting with a guy he doesn't like. So he gets the idea to wear a MAGA hat, and the guy is sitting in the restaurant, and he's like, I got to go. I don't want to be here. So then my favorite bit is when he's driving, and he cuts off the biker, and the biker is yelling at him like, ah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 So he pulls over, and then he puts the hat on, and then the biker goes, just be more careful next time, and then just leaves. That was a great show. That was leaves. That was a great show. That was good. It was a good show. He is id unchecked, right? Like just behaving with no regard for anyone else about anything.
Starting point is 01:09:53 His fields OFs are fallow as F. Indeed, yes. That's great. Do you think, I mean, this is kind of an obvious thing. When we talk about the Giuliani thing, we didn't even mention the uh hunter biden email laptop right giuliani basically spearheaded and popularized as best as he could makes me think that it's a political retribution but i still don't know any of the evidence maybe he did something wrong dude we sit here and we look at these facts and we're like we are so right we're so right about everything the insurgents bull crap, the retribution bull crap, the like stepping on the Constitution, all these things, all the election stuff.
Starting point is 01:10:31 We're like, we are. We are so comfortable in our position. What do you mean? I just I mean, I'm open to challenges and critique, but like, I'm pretty sure that the way we see the world is accurate. But there's another group of four sitting around right now somewhere doing a podcast right now looking at the same fact pattern and saying a narrative completely opposite 180 of what we're saying. And they feel as secure as we do that they're right. Sure.
Starting point is 01:10:59 This is the problem. There's a podcast. It's called like Things You Should Know or something. Have you ever heard of it? Nope. Have you heard of it? Nope. Stuff You Should Know. Young Genociders or something? No, no, no, no, no. It's just like things you should know or something have you ever heard of it nope have you heard of it no stuff you should know young genociders or something no no no no it's just
Starting point is 01:11:08 like some dude sitting around but i i listened to one of these episodes and again i could be wrong about the name of the podcast but they were talking about like climate change and then one of the guys is like dude like i mean fossil fuels are gonna run out anyway we need to start doing research and the other guy goes like yeah dude like there's never gonna be dinosaurs you know what i mean and the guy's like right like fossil fuels are dinosaurs and we're not gonna have more dinosaurs and then the guy's like could you imagine if they like made a jurassic park thing to like make more dinosaurs we can get more oil and i was like what the these what is this it's a top podcast oh my, my God. First of all, we already synthesized petroleum with algae. It's not dinosaurs.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Wow. There's lots of ways. Blue crude. There's lots of ways to make oil nowadays. Yeah. Pressurized plastic with no oxygen. Well, really? Convert it back into oil. Converting it back.
Starting point is 01:11:55 So I was like, these people, they're people who genuinely think petroleum is dinosaurs. Oh, my. It's like, dude, it's not. I think it's mostly algae anyway. It's just organic matter decomposed for the most part, I believe. But regardless, it's like, I just, I was reading an article like the week before about a breakthrough in synthesized petroleum. It's not really energy efficient to do. It's energy efficient for us to take it out of the ground because it's already been
Starting point is 01:12:20 created. And maybe there's other things we can do. But there are people when they sit around in their podcast and talk about stuff yeah they're dumb they're dumb they really are dumb so no there is no one else that's looking at the facts like we are who should be as deservedly assured in our positions as we are in ours it's it's it's listen when i when i talk to are we the dummies no no no i'll tell you this we may not be correct very good we may not be correct it may be that we only see the surface layer of the giuliani fbi thing and below the surface it could be mad could be nuts for all we know aliens are involved i have no idea top secret i mean true it was my first reaction to be like look the fbi department of justice a judge signed off on a
Starting point is 01:13:07 warrant like we have a system in place to make sure that nothing frivolous like this happens so my first instinct is to be like man that giuliani done effed up somehow but what if but aliens yes are holding our government hostage true and told the judge he had to do it vampire aliens vampire aliens yeah but who can actually see themselves in mirrors yes and they can teleport right yeah the point i'm making is i'm a gorilla the in in yeah i am the reality though is that there's confidential stuff we don't know about definitely i'm not saying it's justified i'm not saying i know what the story is it could very well be that like uh mission impossible like team stole the vial of you know the jet stole the vial of fuel from the genesis device and rudy giuliani has a laptop with the
Starting point is 01:13:56 file on it doesn't realize it i don't know i'm just saying there's a lot of stuff we don't know so we're sitting here as as informed as informed as we be. We may be wrong about all of this stuff. For all we know, Russia is secretly at war with some country, and there's just a whole bunch of stuff we don't know what's going on. But I will tell you, when I listen to these other shows, I can immediately say, they never read that story. They never read that story. They don't know about this conflict.
Starting point is 01:14:19 They don't know about that conflict. You look at the stuff with Giuliani right now. I did a segment on it for my main channel. Do you know what the Giuliani stuff is really about is it said that he was advocating on behalf of ukraine syria well it's about the pipeline what's going on where it's dream two so so let me let me tell you my thoughts do you think that joe biden got a prosecutor fired to cover up for his son who was facing a potential corruption investigation? Sounds plausible to me. What I think the issue for a lot of people is, if that's all you know, it sounds like that's what Joe Biden did.
Starting point is 01:14:55 However, I think there's a more obvious reason Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma. Gazprom controls a large portion of the natural gas coming into the European Union. That's through Ukraine and is controlled by Russia. So U.S. and Western interests need energy companies loyal to the West, not Russia. And so there's been a series of conflicts. One, the Euromaidan protests and the separatist movement. NATO and its allies, the West, the United States, want control of Ukraine so that they can control the flow of natural gas into Europe through these pipelines. Russia wants Ukraine in the trade federation.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Separatist fights break out. So the U.S. goes to Syria and says, was to protect Western interests, not because the prosecutor was corrupt. The prosecutor likely was loyal to the country of Ukraine, not the United States and the European Union, and not necessarily to Russia. But an investigation into Burisma was bad for the U.S., so Biden intervenes. And his son was there, incidentally, because the U.S. positioned key figures who are loyal to this country. What's a guarantee? You want someone loyal to the country, you put a former CIA director, which they did,
Starting point is 01:16:17 and the son of a sitting vice president. Now you know this company will always have your back, and you don't got to worry about an Assad saying, no, I'm with Russia. That makes more sense. Rudy Giuliani starts digging up information into what's going on. And maybe could it, because I'm saying there's so much I don't know underneath the surface, but maybe what was happening was that individuals in Ukraine were giving information to Giuliani and Trump allies that would have shown the U.S. was meddling in the national affairs of Ukraine
Starting point is 01:16:45 for U.S. and European interests, not Ukrainian interests. And if the Ukrainian people find out about that, they will reject NATO because they don't want to live under a boot ever again. Yes. My opinion. I don't know if it's true or not because I don't have access to confidential information. There's probably a bunch of other stories I haven't seen, but it is a long and complicated story. No, that seems to make sense.
Starting point is 01:17:03 Also, Tim, by the way, you, what an encyclopedia of information thank god you exist do you read and retain more than most people i've ever met in my whole life very impressive so when we talk about these lefty podcast people who are like dude the the shogun was not was not a good he was corrupt and then it's like did you read metibbi's piece on this? No. Why didn't you? I don't know it existed. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Well, that's a good excuse, I suppose. I can't blame someone for not knowing because I don't know things that – there are things that exist I don't know about. But Matt, man, did he nail this when he did his investigation and he said there was like a dozen active investigations against Burisma and this corrupt guy who flees the country. And so to say that there was no investigation, I'm going to say this, guys, intelligence bros who are watching this show, I'm sorry. I just think you're bad at what you do. Now, hold on, hold on. You're probably really good at what you do by your standards and by relative standards, but I just think I could do a better job. Like if you wanted to actually convince people of US interests and like why it's important to have more energy flowing into the European Union, particularly because the
Starting point is 01:18:13 European Union, one of its goals is to compete against China because they needed European countries unified. I mean, maybe that's the message you should have rolled with instead of it's all a lie. Trust the mainstream media. And then when people catch them in lies, what do you do? Man, these people have no, it's like being honest is actually the best way to go about it. Insulting the intelligence of people with garbage stories and banning someone's name from YouTube doesn't solve the problem. It makes it worse. I kind of feel like the intelligence agencies were handed off to a bunch of young kids, the next generation of deep state, who are like, I don't know how to run this thing. And now it's all falling apart. That happens every generation, I think, though.
Starting point is 01:18:52 I've seen it happen, especially in Wall Street and finance, where the younger guys, they figure out new investment strategies, new asset classes, and they go all crazy. And the risk management folks and the senior partners have no idea what they're doing. That's where you can make some real money. And in the intelligence industry, you know, I mean, look, I think it's pretty much like that in all industries. But what I am struck by here especially is how much of the surface water of our foreign policy and economic policy and politics is all subterfuge the real things are happening below their title forces and in this case it's about energy right and the whole syrian no-fly zone from 2016 clinton proposition uh to the you know people being mad at trump for wanting to calm down tensions in Syria and calm down tensions.
Starting point is 01:19:47 All this is based around pipelines. It's all based around energy. And it's a much deeper structural thing that has nothing to do with some of the surface stuff that we get distracted by. And that's how I know we're on the right side. Is because the left, they want a circumstance in which the people of the European Union have less access to energy and that the people of Ukraine don't have sovereign decision over their country.
Starting point is 01:20:13 And our side wants more energy into the European Union and for the Ukrainian people to decide their sovereignty. Well, no, no. I think the establishment wants more energy into the European Union. But they don't care about Ukraine. The specific kind. Well, no, no. I think the establishment wants more energy into the European Union. But they don't care about Ukraine. The specific kind. Well, no, they want... I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:34 This, again, there's more details that we need, and I am certainly not an expert on this subject. Let me give you a hypothetical. All right. Donald Trump... I'm much better with those. Donald Trump comes into office, and immediately Michael Flynn says China is a bigger threat. Intelligence agencies then say, we know China is a bigger threat, but don't say it out loud because we are actively building up our resistance. The European Union was formed partly to create a competitive economic block that can compete against the growth of China.
Starting point is 01:20:57 And we need, and Russia's in the way. Russia's actually, in many ways, hates China, but also works with them. We need to get more energy into the European Union. Trump comes in and says, I don't care about this Ukraine stuff. I don't care about the Syria stuff. America first, all the way. And then you have these intelligence agencies saying, the first thing we have to do to grow and be competitive is have more energy into Europe to grow European influence, not Chinese or Russian influence. I know Russia is partly in Europe. Then you get Trump pulling out of Syria, which means over the past four years, Trump was stopping the establishment plan to get more energy into the European Union and to weaken Russia,
Starting point is 01:21:37 which in turn would weaken China. Trump went straight for the throat with China and then got all these peace agreements, which made it even harder for the U.S. to operate in the Middle East to maintain control over the region. The U.S. isn't there because there's, you know, terror or whatever. And the fact this conflict between these countries is good for the U.S. because we'd be like, oh, no, we have to be there. We have to send all these bombs to these different countries. Egypt needs our military aid. Trump bringing about peace. Well, now the aid. Trump bringing about peace? Well, now the U.S. is like, what's our justification to the American people and European people and Australia
Starting point is 01:22:10 or whatever, our allies? What's the justification for bringing a country when Trump brings peace? Justification now is we need to bring transgenderism to the women of Afghanistan. Pakistan. Pakistan? Pakistan. It was like, what was it, 10 million dollars? So listen, I say it's hypothetical, and the reason why, after knowing,, like after researching the things that I've researched and seeing this, you know, talking to the journalists and reading the stories, the reason why I don't trust the establishment is because they lie all the time and don't deserve trust.
Starting point is 01:22:37 So I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they have our best interests. I'm going to assume that cronies within the U.S. government took the job at Burisma because they found a path worth making a ton of money for themselves, not because they actually cared about the European Union. And Hunter Biden took the job because, yeah, they needed someone loyal to the U.S., but they were going to get money for doing it. You got a bunch of people who work in government who swap between these big energy companies and these military industrial complex companies, and they make money for themselves, and they operate under the guise of it's all for the betterment of the country.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And when it's not, it's for the betterment of themselves. I would defer to they're more likely trying to enrich themselves and using national interest as a cover. They said Joe Biden's intervention in Ukraine was in the national interest. Yeah, sure. But what do you think Joe Biden got out of it? His kid was getting what like 83 grand per month for for what securing western interests in ukraine i wonder what the ukrainian
Starting point is 01:23:31 people would feel what they would do if that was public knowledge i'd imagine it'd be very very bad for nato he's also kind of vocally said he wants to get off oil so for him to put his son on the board of an oil company to run a pipeline for oil. Isn't that something? We're going to shut down Keystone XL and then build pipelines in Europe and Syria. And my son will be on the board. Well, it is a natural gas pipeline, to be fair. Methane?
Starting point is 01:23:57 Well, it's a mix of gases. Energy independence for thee, but not for me, apparently. Earlier you said that you felt like we were on the right side. That makes me nervous that even people like you, as brilliant as you are, think of yourself divided into a side, that there are sides, that we're divided against each other. I hate to think like that. We are very clearly divided against each other. On one hand, we've got people that believe in personal accountability and individual liberty. On the other hand, we've got people that don in personal accountability and individual liberty. On the other hand, we've got people
Starting point is 01:24:25 that don't. That's a very big difference, bro. But I'll tell you, the important thing here is we don't need these pipelines. Joe Biden doesn't need the pipelines. We don't need Keystone XL either. We don't need Syria. If we just hooked up a turbine to the graves of the founding fathers
Starting point is 01:24:42 spinning in their grave at high speed speed it would generate free and clean energy for a long time look it's a very powerful notion if you consider and reflect upon this statement which I believe to be very true the founding fathers would lose their mind if they understood exactly what we were enduring
Starting point is 01:24:58 today and what would the founding fathers do today are we living up to the sacrifices made by the founding fathers and if not why not because they were a bunch of white supremacist land owners who just didn't want to pay taxes and uh is that the narrative is they paid taxes to themselves they pay taxes locally they were happy to do that. They pay tariffs and such. They just didn't want the parliament. And I learned this actually recently.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Taxes to the king were seen as a gift offered by the people. The parliament, the House of Commons, decided we're going to offer a gift to the king. Well, the House of Commons was deciding that these people over here in America needed to offer a gift to the king, but there was no one representing them to make that gift. That was the basic reason that they objected to the stamp and the sugar tax in particular. What would they do now? What would they do now? And then you think, well, we're kind of gross. We almost don't deserve what they've given us if the founding fathers were
Starting point is 01:26:06 alive today with the same ideology and the same you know complaints right now at this moment in their lives they would be probably just reading a book in their cell you know waiting waiting for exercise hour in solitary because the surveillance state would have caught him a long time ago and locked him up yeah thomas jefferson might be a rock star those didn't exist in the 1700s mass media didn't exist so with this technology what would they have done ben franklin was an inventor you know he'd probably be a technology guy maybe running a social network or something or what's what's the modern equivalent of putting a key on a kite getting struck by lightning launching rockets into space and trying to land them to land back on a
Starting point is 01:26:45 platform. What if Elon Musk just came out one day with an extremely profound philosophical statement on liberty, justice and government? Besides like, can't get it up? Besides like, if I hope there's a scandal about me, it's called the Elon Gate? Yes. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Hilarious. You know what would be an interesting thing? It would be trying to map the founding fathers onto modern day figures. This is who Ben Franklin would be great. Hilarious. But you know what would be an interesting thing? It would be trying to map the founding fathers onto modern-day figures. This is who Ben Franklin would be today. This is who George Washington would be today. Yeah, George Washington clearly would be Joe Biden. Just strong leadership, silver tongue, president. Tall. President.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Tall. Charming. Did you know George Washington was a failed military leader can you explain that until the revolutionary war how so because he he took expeditions out into the countryside against the indians and out into the you know pushing boundaries to the west and he was never very successful he set out to like make his name and just never really did it never really made it in fact in fact he got rejected for being a general in the british army and some argue that is the reason why the united states exists because he had a chip on
Starting point is 01:27:49 his shoulder because he didn't get promoted to be a general in the british army because he sucked as a british officer then he won and then he won but then again it begs the question or raises a question who maybe someone else could have won. Maybe the structural forces would have won. The French won. The French destroyed the British colonies and liberated them. Thank you, Frenchies. Yes, thank you, France. I don't think it's fair to say the French won.
Starting point is 01:28:14 They certainly intervened, but there was already war going on in Europe between Britain and France. So it was just in their interest. But it was initiated by americans fought by americans and aided by german mercenaries as well yeah so actually no no no the germans are on the other side i let that go earlier by the way george washington crossed the river to kill the hashtons because they were drunk on christmas right i'm sure there's a bunch of super chats correcting me on that point because i wasn't tim you you ignorant slut. And after that whole bit I did about how smart I was and how, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:47 it's perfect. That's why I say there's things I don't know because it's not about And if you talk three hours or four hours every day, we're definitely going to find out what those are. But you know, I just realized too, because you ever watch Liberty's Kids? Nope. You've never seen Liberty's Kids? For a guy that works as
Starting point is 01:29:04 much as you do bro you certainly consume this is a show from like a long time ago where it's like some i guess some kids i don't know if they go back in time or something sliders no it's a cartoon where uh these kids are like learning about the revolution and founding fathers and stuff and i remember an episode where they're like oh no the hessians are coming or something so yeah they were on the other side they were but yeah it was it was it was a combination of conflict between different factions. Right. How about we read Super Chat?
Starting point is 01:29:30 Super Chat. We have a we have a very serious problem. Jack. What's that? Tell me. We need people to smash the like button. Smashing. However, we are down in views.
Starting point is 01:29:40 You know why? I do. You know why? Wait. Today in this particular show? That's right. Oh, my God. Jack know why? I do. You know why? Wait, today in this particular show? That's right. Oh, my God. Jack, it's your fault.
Starting point is 01:29:47 It could be that Joe Biden is addressing the nation in his first joint congressional address ever. All right. All right. That's it. That's the reason. God darn it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:54 And not only that, Stephen Crowder is doing a live stream of it. So I just watched them. Stephen who? Stephen Crowder. Crowder? Crowder. I'm going to have to look him up. Crowder.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Is he a politician? Yeah, he must be. Steven Crowder. Crowder. I'm going to have to look him up. Crowder. Is he a politician? So anyway, the point is, without our legions of loyal fans to smash the like button, I don't know what we'll do. And I am heartbroken they have abandoned us for Joe Biden. I'm actually kidding. I do think it's a good thing. You know, people want to check out what he's going to say. And normally, we actually take breaks when, like, Trump would speak or if or if like there's going to be a big event.
Starting point is 01:30:26 But I think the last time Joe Biden spoke, he got like only a couple thousand people on his live stream. And I was like, I'm not going to shut the show down because Joe Biden is going to mumble something incoherently. It's not going to happen. So smash the like button. Go to TimCast.com. Click that little members only button. Sign up. Go to the members area.
Starting point is 01:30:44 We're going to have a bonus brutal members only segment coming up. Should be live about 11 p.com. Click that little members-only button. Sign up. Go to the members area. We're going to have a bonus, brutal members-only segment coming up. It should be live about 11 p.m. or so. And we're going to talk about some very serious, serious stuff. Maybe it gets in trouble. But it'll be over at TimCast.com. And I got great news. We are in rapid development on the site. In about a month and a half or so, we're going to have a completely, again, once again, updated because we've been building it and growing it.
Starting point is 01:31:05 We are getting Stripe integration. For those that aren't fans of PayPal, there will be more payment options. And we're going to be bringing on a news team doing articles. It's going to be a whole lot of fun. Let's read some super chats. And thank you all for your smashing of the like button. Showing that we are better than Joe Biden. That's right.
Starting point is 01:31:22 All right. I can't read your name, but here's the first super chat. I love the content. I'm a ski bum in Utah, and I thought liberty was dying. But when I discovered your show, it gave me hope that liberalism, in the classical sense,
Starting point is 01:31:33 will rise again. That's what I'm talking about. And that's why you should share the show with your friends if you like it, because we live or die based on your good graces. It's like that Simpsons Halloween special where the advertisements come to life,
Starting point is 01:31:46 and then they're like, how do you kill an advertisement? Don't look at it. And then they all turn around, but Homer can't because the guy's got a donut. And then when he turns around, they finally all freeze and lose their life. Same thing for us. If people stop looking, then we just freeze in place. So maybe we should offer donuts to people. I'm into it. That's not very
Starting point is 01:32:02 keto friendly. Yeah, that's true. That's fair. Keto friendly. Good point. No, they very keto-friendly. Yeah, that's true. That's fair. Keto-friendly. Good point. No, they have keto donuts. We got this really great keto bread once. It was like psyllium husk or something, like mushroom bread or something like that. Psyllium. It was good.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Psyllium is what it's called? Yeah, psyllium. Oh, there you go. It's like mushroom fiber? I don't think it's mushroom. Oh. But yeah, I'll look it up. Weird.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I'll do my research. It's like a sponge. Yeah. All right, let's see what we got here. Joel Jamal says, Monday, Australian MP Craig Kelly banned on Facebook.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Tuesday, Craig Kelly proposes legislation like in Florida to protect online speech. Wednesday, Craig Kelly loses parliamentary Facebook page, Instagram page,
Starting point is 01:32:39 and Linktree account. Collusion. Yep. It's the name of the game, man. Big Tech Mark Zucker he's your boss i'll fight you naked says i wrote a piece on medium called letter to a woke heart i send this out so conservatives and centrists can use it to deprogram left-wing friends who are not totally infected you know what i found if you hadn't if you know any of those people my a lot of my friends
Starting point is 01:33:02 who post these things on facebook when i talk to them privately they're very timidly saying a lot of the woke talking points almost like they don't really believe it and then when i shut it down they stop so it's like the establishment talking points it really does feel as a lot of people who are experiencing cognitive dissonance where in their hearts they're like i don't like, but they think everyone else is woke, so they have to say it. I wish I had hope about that. I have a cousin who's married, and they have a few kids, and I love them.
Starting point is 01:33:34 I put a lot of effort into making sure we had a relationship, that we saw each other's children, that we stayed in touch with each other. And one day we're talking about feminism, and I'm like, yeah, that's not how it works anymore, explaining to her how feminism had evolved she was so stuck in second wave mindset that now they they literally have like disowned us as family members because she can't accept the fact that feminism isn't even what she thinks it is anymore and she thinks because i'm anti-feminism i'm anti-woman which isn't the case obviously well that's why i just you you got you got to make sure you're speaking
Starting point is 01:34:05 very, you got to understand the semantics. I think I understand semantics. Well, don't say to a second wave feminist you're anti-feminist. To a second wave feminist, you say I completely agree with you and your feminism, 100%. I will take that under advisement.
Starting point is 01:34:22 I'm pretty sure I tried all those techniques and tactics and it's just still a shame that politics like this, especially confusion about politics, get in the way of personal relationships. This is why the first thing I ask my friends who are entering the woke space is, do you believe in Dr. King's dream? And then when they say yes, right. One day, my four little children will be judged based on the content of their character and not the color of their skin. They go, right. And I say, oh, okay. So how do you feel about the Democrats voting against stopping Asian discrimination?
Starting point is 01:34:52 And then they're like, uh, Democrats good? Democrats good. You bad. I'm out. That was really funny. Ted Cruz put that amendment. Like he proposed that amendment to the, you know, what was it? Hate crime bill or whatever whatever where it's like
Starting point is 01:35:05 you can't discriminate against Asians and universities and the Democrats were like no no we should be allowed to do that so much for stop Asian hate I guess huh all right dragon
Starting point is 01:35:14 noodle soup gaming says hey Jack yeah I caught your segment on honey badger radio a long time ago good stuff oh thank you Tim you should have Brian Martinez on Jack and Sidney Watson have
Starting point is 01:35:24 both been on a show, and Aiden Paladin is a part of their group. That would be cool. Good stuff. Good show. Like that guy. He did a reaction video to one of the times I was on here, and it was quality.
Starting point is 01:35:37 So I stumbled across it because I might name search myself every once in a while. Oh, you do. Just occasionally. Turk Longwell says, thanks, Tim. Nice opening monologue.. I'm sure it's occasional. Just occasionally. Turk Longwell says, thanks, Tim. Nice opening monologue. Now I'm sad yet angry. Now more angry.
Starting point is 01:35:50 I believe veterans of any age will become the leaders of us critical thinkers. Agreed. Perhaps. Where's our Cincinnatus? That's what we need. Simply Gray says,
Starting point is 01:36:00 how long has that water bottle been sitting next to you? This water bottle has been sitting next to me for tonight because I grabbed it from the fridge right over there, which is full of the same water bottles. And I have a water bottle every night. It's the same one. But this one's different. This is the Ramune.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Ramune. Japanese premium carbonated soft drink. You ever see the fun marble drink where the marble's in the bottle? We love that. You can say a lot of things about the Tim Kass crew, but you can't say that they don't provide a wide array of high-quality beverages at every phase and stage of the property, from bottled water to fancy sugary sodas to coconut water to MCT, BioTrust, this thing, to Japanese scotch, 12-year-old scotch that I had earlier. The volcanic water, the carbonated volcanic water.
Starting point is 01:36:46 There's all this volcanic water you can order from. Specific volcanoes around Earth that have different minerals in them. Which volcano would you like to drink from? Volcano blood. Is it so hot? Not anymore. It's important.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Some people who come here are really worked up and anxious and high-strung. And for that, we have booze. Some people who come are nervous and really down. And for that, we have energy drinks. And so you really got to know. So what I do is when I get here, I smash a couple espresso drinks, a sugar-free Red Bull, and about four ounces of Japanese whiskey. And, bro, I'm golden.
Starting point is 01:37:23 And then you're just leveled back out. I'm just right back where I started. All for the drive later. Yeah, great. All right, Neil Sawyer says, Hey Tim, just wanted to plug
Starting point is 01:37:33 your newest channel, Cast Castle. It seems like it's going to be great, but speaking of greatness, Michael Knoll's new, Michael Knoll's new book, Speechless,
Starting point is 01:37:41 Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, is available for pre-order. Someone tweeted to Michael Knoll's, they were like, you know, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, is available for pre-order. Someone tweeted to Michael Knowles. They were like, you know, one of your guys got Tim to read a super chat that turned into a promo for his book. But he didn't notice before it was too late. And it was funny.
Starting point is 01:37:57 And Michael tweeted about it. I love it. It's great. But we do have a new channel. It's called Cast Castle. We have only two videos up. But we're just going to start. I've been talking about doing the vlog. And I'm like, we just got to film it and just start doing it and plan activities.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Dude, the RC cars flew through the air very, very far. We launched some RC cars at like 50 miles an hour over the garage off the ramp, just flipping through the air. Did you shoot them? No, you can't shoot bullets up. Is there a certain degree that you can't raise your barrel? Past your backstop. Oh, yeah. No backstop up there, dog.
Starting point is 01:38:33 No, it's going to come down somewhere. True that. No, even when you live in the middle of nowhere, there's still things and people. You got to know where that's going. True that. Granted, there's some places where you can live where it's probably like if you're on like an island somewhere and you're like nothing but water around for days but uh typically into your backstop into backstop so no no firing randomly up in the air well how do you how do you hunt birds then birdshot yeah i suppose yeah
Starting point is 01:39:00 little pellets so do we have video of the RC cars? Oh, yeah. It's a vlog. It's on Cast Castle. Cast Castle. That's right. There you go. Cast Castle. Cast Castle.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Yeah, so it's YouTube. All Cs, no Ks. YouTube.com slash Cast Castle. And we might get the garage redone. Yeah. The one with the skate park in it? Yeah, yeah. So like getting the roof fixed so that there's more space and cleaning it.
Starting point is 01:39:24 And then I don't know how much it'll cost because pole barns aren't that expensive, but even putting a deck up top so we can do shows and have like a VIP section. Like a hangar? Maybe. I mean, they're not that expensive to build. It's literally just like sheet metal up against the wood beam. It's just the labor you're paying for. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Summer's coming. Now's the time to plan. That's beam. It's just the labor you're paying for. Let's do it. Summer's coming. Now's the time to plan. That's right. That's right. And we got probably, I think, three million dead stink bugs. Just along the line here? No, no.
Starting point is 01:39:55 There's a part with insulation. Oh, my gosh. And there's just all stink bugs. The lowest. Yeah, because they're just... Wow. It's like the Manhattan of Stink Bug City. Beautiful. Stink bug culture. So pumped. All just, it's like the Manhattan of Stinkbug City, you know.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Beautiful. Stinkbug culture. So pumped. All right, let's see. Free men die free, says libertarians have always had the solution, massively decentralized or even abolish it entirely. Liberty or death. Man. The price of liberty is blood. So I'm told. Ask Dummy dummy says one thank you all two second sc macro pick internet attention addiction lulling us into post-truth era where liars can easily
Starting point is 01:40:36 fool masses with algorithms woke eyes three why no mention of 99.997 rate in young people with jre vid today honest question fear of censorship oh so did you see joe rogan's getting you know yeah what's up with that i i i just joe rogan came out and he made a statement about uh young people if people if young if a young person asked him to get vaccinated vaccinated he'd say if you're young and healthy you know you don't need to do it or whatever then fauci comes out he's wrong and i'm like listen i'm not gonna my i don't want to do a video talking about cdc guidelines or anything like that because you got to talk to your doctor you know what i mean like i don't fault joe for having a passive conversation and giving his opinion but we i guess we're in the era now where you know a
Starting point is 01:41:21 comedian with a massively influential podcast with great power comes great responsibility and i'm just like the fauci's the guy who came out was and told everyone not to wear masks early on now he's the guy telling people to wear two masks he should have i'm not i'm not going to take my opinions from a tv doctor or from a podcast comedian i'm just going to talk to my doctor you know i i've had this before like i'll go to my doctor and like they'll give you some word you've never heard of prozama doll andol, and you're like, I don't know. If you don't trust your doctor, I don't know what to tell you, man. But not an issue. We talk about the survival rate for COVID here quite a bit.
Starting point is 01:41:55 I don't know. It just wasn't an issue for me for the most part. I wish that you could just say trust your doctor. But I have found that a lot of doctors are really dumb. They don't know about nutritional information. they don't know about diet and exercise they don't know about all kinds of stuff and they don't they're not incentivized to give you the advice that'll keep you healthy they're incentivized to keep you in their practice the problem i suppose is you need to find a doctor you trust you go to a doctor like you hire a plumber and just be like,
Starting point is 01:42:25 so look, you probably go on Angie's list or whatever and look for a good review before you hire the plumber. You bring the plumber out and you're like, yeah, so we got a problem. We got a clog in the toilet. And he'll be like, where? It's like, I don't know, in the pipe somewhere. There are pipes in a toilet?
Starting point is 01:42:39 You bet, okay, this guy's not a plumber. You know what I mean? You go to a doctor and you ask him questions he can't answer. Maybe you just find a doctor that you find, you know, credible and you trust. I's not a plumber. You know what I mean? You go to a doctor and you ask him questions he can't answer. Maybe you just find a doctor that you find credible and you trust. I'm not a doctor. Joe Rogan's not a doctor. Fauci is a doctor, but I don't think he's practiced in a long time.
Starting point is 01:42:53 But the bigger question here is at what point does a dude doing what he wants to do, talking to his friends on camera, go from just being able to say whatever he wants to actually having societal expectations placed upon him joe rogan is the like the podcast i don't know what you know for a while it was the biggest podcast in the world i don't know if we can still say that anymore to be completely honest because he went exclusive with spotify so i'm sure that affected things but look man with great power comes great responsibility that's why i'm just like talk to you doctor said in my segment, I was like, there's probably a lot of medical
Starting point is 01:43:27 things I would opine on when it comes to injuries or something that probably wouldn't matter. But considering we have this major hotbed of political conflict and media ridiculousness, I just say the easiest way to diffuse all of it is, hey, talk to your doctor. It's like, we don't got to argue about it. The TV doctor is not the person you want to be going to for advice. I could see him having Fauci and another doctor on together that have alternate views to talk about it in front of him. But I think it's smart to not become the arbiter decision maker in this case. This is such a sensitive. It's just simple. It's just talk to your doctor.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Let's read some more Super Chats. All right. Here we go. Ed Vark says, We are in a new age of persecution similar to McCarthyism in the Salem witch trials. Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it to sad days indeed. It does feel like the Salem witchcraft trials. Hold on a second.
Starting point is 01:44:16 McCarthy, he was right. The witch trials people were wrong. They weren't actually witches. But McCarthy said that hollywood and universities were being taken over by the communists i think that guy was right he was some in hindsight was he not correct i think he took people out that weren't communist okay so some of the tactics may have been misguided for sure but but the general concept is that mccarthy was right communists have taken
Starting point is 01:44:46 over our country and they're trying to tear it apart he was just a visionary it could i'm talking out of my ass a tiny bit here but the gist is right he believed the communists were taking over the country was gonna be bad for amer America. Guess what? Dude was right, and he was right. And here we are. Oh, interesting. I feel like it's like Salem Witchcraft. Should I have saved that one for the after show? I don't know. That's actually an interesting idea.
Starting point is 01:45:14 I never looked at it like that before, but I think you're onto something. Yeah, about how he conducted himself and the things that they did may not have been good. Too authoritarian. I don't know the details on that for sure. The blacklists and all that. But I do know that he was right in his fear of communism we got a good super chat here chris browse says the national guard will become the local police we are under contract and cannot just walk away from the job like a civilian cop they can be state or federally activated don't
Starting point is 01:45:38 have to supply housing that's right there it is the cops get abolished the national guard comes out checkpoints and barbed wire fences everywhere. And they don't need housing? And, of course, this means National Guard are people who will just blindly follow any order no matter how sick and depraved and how it violates the Constitution, right? Well, hopefully not. Why, though? Why? I haven't gotten there yet, Tim.
Starting point is 01:46:01 What? Where I just blanketly assume that anybody with a gun and a uniform in America is going to pee on the Constitution and shoot me. Let's say you are. I'm just too optimistic. Let's say you're in the military, right? You're in the National Guard. And you're standing guard. And they say, you've got to stand guard here, right?
Starting point is 01:46:19 We're worried about terror attacks. Ian's walking down the street wearing that, and he's got a gun. And your commanding officer says, stop man now disarm him are you going to be like no why are you going to be like yes sir now is that a fault of that person no it's the banality of evil i see right so the individual with a lack of knowledge doesn't understand the full context and probably can't you can't give a dossier on ian you know to you and say read this and then at random he'll be gone so do you trust your chain of command so it's not necessarily the infantry or ground soldiers fault right it's the system i get i i think there's no
Starting point is 01:46:57 real solution to it because it's not an unlawful order to say detain someone now if we're talking about load that person up onto a train to a concentration camp and they choose to do that, the argument then becomes, did they know where they were sending this person or were they told, detain this person? And when it came to the trials after World War II, they really didn't take any soldiers out. It was only the top commanders that they
Starting point is 01:47:17 punished. Well, I mean, there are former Nazi soldiers who are being caught and rounded up around the world and have been for the past several decades. It doesn't matter if you are top or not. Nuremberg. I mean, they took out like Goring. I mean, just just right now. And we're going to I'm going to talk to Julie Kelly tomorrow on Jack Murphy live on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:47:34 Jack Murphy live that about January 6th trespassers being held in solitary confinement due to Corona pre trial. Yeah. Pre charges in some cases even. and this people are just carrying that out without any question i mean you're you're you're right you're right but the system must be able to function in a way where the people on the on the front lines get in order and they follow them otherwise it's just not going to function ever and therein lies the the the break in the system that you could be in the National Guard, and
Starting point is 01:48:06 they'll say, we've got insurrection and riots, so we're setting up a security perimeter, protect the seat of the Capitol. Then you're armed, and you're standing on a street corner, and you get word that you've got an insurgent heading your way. Take him out now, now, now. He's dangerous. He's armed. And then you see Ian
Starting point is 01:48:21 carrying the gun, and they go, don't move, don't move! And they shoot him. And what are they supposed to do? All right, send me the dossier so I have the full details and then I'll cross-reference everything you sent me to make sure it's true. No. They have to follow the order. And then what happens is people have their constitutional rights violated. And then these people who serve in the military will inadvertently be part of a system should the system go that direction.
Starting point is 01:48:45 That's why you don't want military acting as civilian police because they do have to follow orders no matter what, whereas cops have a lot more liberty with discretion. Same problem with cops. But they can at least – they're not going to get executed. They can walk off. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So imagine this. You're in the National Guard and they say we got prisoners coming
Starting point is 01:49:07 in we need you to load them up load them up on a train they're being transported to a prison you'd say okay what if would you know that they were being sent to gas chambers modern day with social media kind of some nowadays it's a little different because you you can look on twitter and be like oh my gosh those people that we loaded up were political prisoners. If it's – look, the Manhattan Project was compartmentalized and people didn't know what they were even building. So if you are serving under contract and you have to follow orders, you will and you won't think twice because you don't know what the orders ultimately will lead to. That's just the way it is. So people will have their rights violated. It's the end of the story. If things keep going the way they're going for sure sounds like scale
Starting point is 01:49:48 is the problem scale is the problem when things become too big in scale then you know sort of unconstitutional orders or negative orders or commands can get passed through this scale and be executed even though they may be blatantly false and wrong. Scale is the issue. Localism and decentralization is the antidote. All right. J-Mac says, shout out to the quartering and what he did for the Holiday Inn guy this week. Love him or hate him.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Jeremy does good things. That is right. You saw the Holiday Inn guy. He had a panic attack. Breakdown. Yeah, yeah. Quartering raised a bunch of money, I think, for him. Good for you.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Good job, buddy. Then handed it panic attack. Breakdown. Yeah, yeah. Quartering raised a bunch of money, I think, for him. Good for you. Good job, buddy. Then handed it over to him. Yep. Bottled Water says, Seriously, Tim, no BS. I spent a decade in the military and have friends who do things that would make you cry. Have me on and I will blow your mind. From combat
Starting point is 01:50:40 rules to things they won't acknowledge. Well, I will say, we are planning a bunch of new shows, so maybe we'll have something off YouTube website only that's like, you know, deep sit-down interviews with people who have served and war stories and cop stories and... A lot of them have
Starting point is 01:50:56 signed NDAs, soldiers and stuff, so that they're not technically not supposed to. Yeah, the ones who can will do it. Oh, the horror. Caper2x says, Tim tim you create straw men that invite sedition how that helps what's missing from your rants it only applies to democrat communities there is there is a big red world out there how are they doing i don't understand i was confused straw man's all i got out of there. Black Czar says,
Starting point is 01:51:28 the flashpoint to expect will be over an individual aggrieved by the state's failure to manage riots and who has acted in self-defense of self who will not thereafter allow the state to arrest them and whose local community agrees and acts so they will not be arrested. Like in V for Vendetta. Where, so you have the inspector, he's telling the story of like what's what's happening
Starting point is 01:51:45 and he's like and then someone will do something stupid and it shows a little girl wearing the mask skipping and the cop shoots her and then everyone shows up with bats and starts beating the cop because when people finally break down and say we don't care anymore kyle rittenhouse was dangerous for for the establishment and that's why i said i don't think the intelligence agencies have control over anything. I think they're failing and they're bad at their jobs. Because the Rittenhouse thing is the most incendiary thing in the country in my opinion. Well, the George Floyd thing.
Starting point is 01:52:12 No. I mean, that thing. Nope. Is such a threat to the establishment. Absolutely not. When George Floyd happened, it was conservatives and Democrats united in anger. Entirely. Like 99%.
Starting point is 01:52:23 They ripped the system down. No. Ready to support the state who came in and prosecuted chauvin and then they celebrate the state they're cheering for the state well but they're burning buildings and cities and things right and then when the state came in and said and now we'll give you what you want they went yay government but the rittenhouse thing is ripping the ripping the factions in twain and you you're going to have people who are like, what he did was clearly self-defense, and we all saw it,
Starting point is 01:52:49 and there's no justice anymore. I think the issue there is it's not going to get much media attention. The Rittenhouse thing? Yeah. Not compared to Floyd. Are you nuts? No. Rittenhouse, according to the left—
Starting point is 01:53:01 No, they have to kill the full force and weight on Rittenhouse, according to the left. No, they have. I'm sorry. They have to kill the full force and weight on Rittenhouse. Why? Because he's a white boy with a gun that took the law and defense of property into his own hands. Can't be having that now, dog. You think the media will pariah him? Must. They already have. Will.
Starting point is 01:53:17 They are. The left narrative is that Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun across state lines to hunt down activists who were peacefully protesting and then brutally murdered them in cold blood. The real story is that he was a lifeguard in Kenosha who was given a gun by one of his friends in Wisconsin and asked by the property owners to help defend the area. And he rendered aid to some of the rioters who almost blew up a gas station. And then he defended himself when he was attacked. But that's only if you've actually watched the analysis and know this the propagandists have a lot of power
Starting point is 01:53:48 and regular people genuinely believe he's a white supremacist who was hunting down peaceful black lives matter protesters dude i wasn't there live that night but i watched this various streams live that night like i know that there's more information and more data dude but i watched every little bit unfold the tensions at the gas station rise that the n-word guy who got killed who was screaming the white guy kept screaming n-word over and over and over again that guy ended up getting shot later i watched him run down the street being chased people hitting him with the skateboard him falling down shooting a guy who's reaching for, I mean. And then if you just donate money in support of due process,
Starting point is 01:54:36 you get fired from your job. Yep. John Adams today would be a pariah for representing the English in the Boston Massacre. Oh, wow. Yep. That's awesome. He did that because he believed in due process and the right to a fair trial.
Starting point is 01:54:51 He also got them off. Right. He also got them off because they deserve to be right. And so in this case, you can't even that. That's American. Yeah. That's patriotism. Donating $10 or $15 or $25 to a due process fund, basically a legal defense fund for someone unconvicted of a crime.
Starting point is 01:55:11 That's American. But now I can't remember. Was it a cop or somebody got fired because he donated a small money amount of money to a guy to hire a lawyer to defend him for a due process. I think Rittenhouse is going to get life in prison. We were talking to Andrew Branca and he was saying was saying that you know it's two counts of murder so that would be life and do you think the jurors are going to do anything for that for for rittenhouse well they shouldn't they should just do what's right but but what i mean is i'm not saying they would do him a favor i'm saying do you think they would do anything that's beneficial to him?
Starting point is 01:55:48 And of course not. They're going to walk through the burning rubble that is Kenosha and they're going to go into the trial and they're going to be like, I don't care about the evidence. Can I just say guilty and go home? Because otherwise they're going to burn my house down. Right. That's why Bronco was saying they're pushing it back further and further, so that it's further away from the emotional trauma of the moment. Derek Chauvin was a cop who was trying to arrest someone. And that person died.
Starting point is 01:56:12 And they went nuts. Kyle Rittenhouse, according to the left, is a white supremacist who hunted down peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters. Their narrative on Rittenhouse is several orders of magnitude more insane and dramatic than anything related to Derek Chauvin. Yes. They are. They're not going to throw the book at the guy. They're going to throw the library at him.
Starting point is 01:56:34 I guess I would hope that it comes out in court that he's not. He wasn't a murderer. They didn't hunt people. Did the mainstream media accurately report on the defense during the Chauvin trial? I don't think so. They did not. I didn't watch it, to be trial? I don't think so. They did not. I didn't watch it, to be honest. They didn't.
Starting point is 01:56:48 So do you think the mainstream media is going to accurately report on the defense in the Rittenhouse trial? No. Of course not. There's going to be headline after headline. Prosecution witness says Rittenhouse is a white supremacist terrorist. And then when the defense comes out and they say, here's proof of him actually, a post he made where he opposes white supremacy, the media won't report it. And then regular people will see this and they'll freak out and they'll demand, you know, quote unquote justice and they'll start setting fires and the jurors are going to
Starting point is 01:57:15 be like, I just didn't want to go through the riots and the destruction again. I was scared someone would come to my house and retaliate. I think my guess is that there's way less animosity towards him than there was towards Chauvin because of, unfortunately, the color of the skin of the guy that Chauvin killed. So I don't think there's going to be as much hate towards that kid. Well, let's read some more. We got Bailey and he says, I live in Alaska and currently you get paid to live here. But Democrat and Dems disguised as Republicans have been trying to take it away because they're
Starting point is 01:57:44 greedy and don't know how to diversify our economy outside of oil and yet demand their luxuries. Well, there you go. They pay you to live in Alaska, huh? Not bad. Good to know. Must really suck, dude. Yeah. Sean Murphy says, legit bat podcast and all y'all are great.
Starting point is 01:58:02 Thanks for doing what you do. Ian's graphene dream. Free the code. Legit bat podcast. Yeah. What does that mean? Graphene World incoming. Dude, you're going to have touchscreen wallpaper. I mean, don't they already have that? Maybe, but it's going to be like spray paint. You'll spray it on your walls and it'll become a touchscreen
Starting point is 01:58:16 computer. Very cool. Do it. Super chats, Tim. Super chat me. Let's see what we got. Finding good ones. I'll just start spouting off technology no no spray paint windows we've made it through a whole episode without you saying your number one center square drinking game item oh right well are we gonna make it we're gonna make it
Starting point is 01:58:37 you're talking about the federal because it's been on my mind i just haven't brought it i mean you want to talk about the global economic order and the real root of this problem. Tim, super chat me quick. John Rourke says, I'm a six-year police veteran. I love my job and don't want to have to find something else to do. There is a move to defund San Antonio Police Department. Vote against Proposition, is that B? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:58 On May 1st, fellow San Antonians. Hmm. I don't know. I'm conflicted. San Antonio isn't one of those states. People aren't taking responsibility for their communities. So supporting police departments at this point is to continue the track we're on where people just hand off responsibility to Democrats. I'm not a fan of that anymore.
Starting point is 01:59:18 I've never been a fan of that. And I think the problem is so long as police keep saying, I love my job, I don't want to leave, then regular people are going to be like, I don't got to do anything as a cop in this police department. i don't want to leave then regular people are gonna be like i don't gotta do anything as a cop this police department i don't i don't i don't need to bear arms so neither do you then they go and vote for democrats don't take my guns away because they won't take responsibility for their own safety and security so how about we don't abolish the police but we do defund them dramatically so that we have after someone breaks into your home or commits a crime, the police come for the administrative portion, but you're responsible for your own security and safety. I've been thinking about it. I think there's a difference between not getting involved with it and actively campaigning to have them defunded.
Starting point is 01:59:58 So I get it that, particularly with you, Tim, that you're angry with the situation. You feel like they're being used for ill. But to actively— No, I think the police. You feel like they're being used for ill. But to actively – No, I think the police are supporting a corrupt system on purpose at this point. Some of them, but probably not that guy that loves his job. It's the banality of evil. Dude, he would suck to be a cop in the empire for sure. Dude, I worked for Fusion.
Starting point is 02:00:19 And when they told me they were corrupt, I said I want to leave right now. A lucrative, very, very lucrative contract with Disney. And I went to the president and said, why am I here? Can I end my contract? And they said, let's think about it. They put me in golden handcuffs, dumped a massive bonus in my bank account. And I said, the moment you say we're done, I'm out. I tried quitting a year into my contract because they were a crooked company. I could have taken all that sweet, sweet money and lived in luxury in Miami like everybody else. I don't want to do that. And there are people right now, they're
Starting point is 02:00:54 saying, but I love my job. Oh, it was fantastic. I had a budget where I could fly anywhere in the world whenever I wanted. I got, they actually paid for me. To go on a luxury cruise. With all of these celebrities. I got to hang out with Lady Gaga's manager. And a bunch of other crazy industry insiders. And meet these super wealthy people. Who are just laughing. And on this massive cruise ship.
Starting point is 02:01:19 Going to NASA on the Bahamas. And it was like a 10 grand cruise. I could have stayed. I don't want to do it. Not for the money. But I don't think that guy's doing it for the money. I loved traveling the world and reporting on serious issues
Starting point is 02:01:32 and making documentaries. And I was in a position where they were giving me ridiculous amounts of money to do it. And I said, I am not going to support a corrupt and broken system. I won't.
Starting point is 02:01:41 So break my contract. They said, no. I said, okay, I'm chilling. Kept me in golden handcuffs. And it ended i left i started my own thing this is why you have to be financially independent it is the only way to remain mentally emotionally and spiritually independent as well all right steph mlb says tim could you cover the increasing violence at the border been following violence and have even spoken to people in cartels since living in mexico look up the case of the satanic sacrifice of america of american mark kilroy this needs more attention and coverage timcast.com is going to be launching a newsroom and we're going
Starting point is 02:02:16 to start producing mini docs and stuff like that so we absolutely will be looking to send crews down to to cover the stuff it'll be. It'll be a whole lot of fun. All right, we'll just do a couple more super chats. Gobstomper Bo says, 70% of the military is right-leaning. And as a weekend warrior myself, we have had this conversation about unlawful orders. We have a duty to disobey unlawful orders. FYI, the militia, 10 U.S. Code 246, right. But stopping someone from carrying a weapon isn't necessarily an unlawful order. Telling someone to arrest someone,
Starting point is 02:02:53 not an unlawful order. Telling someone to get into a train, not an unlawful order. That's it. They don't tell you, hey, will you go put this person into a death camp? Then you'd be like, no, I won't. Okay. They'll say, hey, this person is going to jail. And you go, okay. Fine by me. All right, let's see.
Starting point is 02:03:13 Let's just do one more. Aileen J says, hey, Tim, check out the Canadian prime minister trying to pass a bill suppressing civilian speech on social media. I will check that out. And Bill Hughes, last one, he says the raid on Giuliani is a move to destroy
Starting point is 02:03:27 evidence. Interesting. Yeah, that crossed my mind. Yeah. Alright, everybody. Make sure you follow us over here at TimCastIRL on Instagram at TimCastIRL and on Facebook at Facebook.com slash TimCastIRL. That's right. We're using the big platforms because
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Starting point is 02:03:59 and YouTube dot com slash Timcast News. This show is live Monday through Friday at 8 p.m. So we will be back tomorrow. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. And, Jack, I think you've got stuff to shout out. I have got stuff going on for sure. Tomorrow I'm interviewing Julie Kelly. We're going to go over the January 6th indictments, accusations, what's been happening to all the people who've been detained.
Starting point is 02:04:17 And then on Friday I'm interviewing Joe Kent, a congressional candidate from Oregon, I believe, who's got a tremendous story. You can see all that at Jack Murphy live on on Facebook. Not YouTube. Jack Murphy live. Actually, Jack Murphy live all over the place. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Minds, Rumble, and a few others as well.
Starting point is 02:04:38 So I'll see you there. Thanks very much. I just found out that Jack Murphy used to be a cage fighter. No, no, no. Back that up. Not a cage fighter. Muay Thai champion. Amateur Muay Thai champion. Two-time North American WKA kickboxing champion.
Starting point is 02:04:52 Yes. I have trained MMA. I have fought in a cage, but not in a sanctioned fight. I have trained with UFC cage fighters, but not an official cage fighter. Not a sanctioned cage fighter. I am not taking that fake credit. Just a cage fighter in my heart. Yes. For you. Stolen fighter. I am not taking that fake card. Just a cage fighter in my heart. Yes, for you.
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