Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #278 - Biden's Ratings CRASH, Liberals Go Back To Sleep Paving Way For GOP w/Libby Emmons

Episode Date: May 4, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join author and editor-in-chief of The Post Millennial Libby Emmons to discuss Joe Biden's abysmal ratings and what they mean, anti-critical race theory candidates winning in a dis...trict that Biden won in 2020, Florida's passage of a groundbreaking new social media bill, and whether conservatives need to call for the abolition of the police. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, today was a rough day, man. You normally were doing pre-production about an hour before the show. We have a bunch of stories throughout the day that we're looking at, what we're planning on talking about. And then we like to come up to the studio, make sure the lights and the cameras are working, think about what stories we got. But today there was a tornado. And it was directly due west, heading directly due east. And so we got the warning that the tornado was coming and we're like okay so we got to bring everything inside and we're rushing and then we're worried about
Starting point is 00:00:30 the chickens like what do we do with the chickens and so we're actually we almost brought them in as well but tornado did pass us however it was pretty like i don't want to say it was scary because i've dealt with tornado warnings before but we actually had you know the mail service you know the mail carrier came out here and they were like, heads up, the tornadoes, this is legit. Like people are freaking out. Now we're in a mountainy area. So it probably broke it up a little bit, but the, it passed just north of us. So, so we all good. We're all, we're all alive and we're doing the show. And, but I tweeted and I'm just basically saying this because in the event people saw the tweet, want to know if we were okay, we survived. And for some reason we lost internet. We had to like fix the internet, but that was probably due to the storm, I guess.
Starting point is 00:01:07 But we're here and we have news. Biden is not doing too well. His ratings were ridiculously low for his speech. Not really a state of the union. And we're seeing TV ratings collapse. Now, some have argued this is good. It means Joe Biden can sneak through all this ridiculous spending right under the nose of the American people. And I hate to say it, but I think most things go under the nose of the American
Starting point is 00:01:28 people because they're not paying attention. So what's really happening is good news, sort of. Democrats, traditional liberal types, the voters, aren't paying attention. They've gone to sleep. That means Republicans, who are still fired up and angry, the anti-woke and disaffected liberals, are still on the offensive, and the Democrats have lost their support base. So we're going to talk about this. We've got a bunch of other stories, too. It's getting scary out there if you're paying attention to the cost of goods, gasoline, lumber, wood. It's skyrocketing in price. At the same time, cryptocurrencies are going way up, so we'll get into all that as well. And then we've got some crazy news, too. Apparently, Doctor Strange, for those Marvel fans, Doctor Strange wasn't in WandaVision.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Maybe you don't know what those things are. This is a show on Disney+. Do you know why Doctor Strange wasn't included in the show? It's perhaps because he's a white male. No joke, apparently. That's what the reporting we're seeing is. So, yeah, we'll talk about that, too. And joining us today is the editor-in-chief of the Post Millennial, Libby Emmons.
Starting point is 00:02:22 How's it going? It's going really well. Do you want to just give us a quick, brief intro? Sure. I, Libby Emmons. How's it going? It's going really well. Do you want to just give us a quick, brief intro? Sure. I'm Libby Emmons. I'm the editor-in-chief of the Post Millennial. We're a Canadian center-right publication, cover a lot of American news, a lot of culture stories.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Andy Ngo is a writer. Andy Ngo is our editor-at-large. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, it's great to work with Andy. Right on. Yeah. So we'll be talking about stuff and things. We'll be talking about lots of stuff and things. Excellent. Ian, okay, cool. Yeah, it's great to work with Andy. Right on. Yeah. So we'll be talking about stuff. Yeah, we'll be talking about lots of stuff and things.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Excellent. Ian, he's chilling. Yeah, hey, everybody. Ian Crossland over here. I'm excited to get to the bottom of this Joe Biden saying, no one that made $400,000 a year is going to have to pay a penny less than a penny in taxes. One of the reasons his ratings are probably down, at least they're hoping, is that the man can't speak.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Joe Biden was like, nobody who makes under $400,000 will pay a single penny in taxes. I'm like, does that mean that you don't got to pay taxes up to $400,000? He must have meant a penny more than they used to pay. Nope, it's legally binding. He said it. Okay. Thanks, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I was wondering what kind of taxes he's talking about. Is this just income taxes or can we get in on some sales tax? Like what are we doing? He's basically saying like only – Let's just pay no taxes. Make all the people who make more than 400K, he's going to make them pay like 70% and then everyone else just pays nothing. Right. All right. And somehow he's going to keep those people in the country.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I don't know how. Sounds like a plan that the socialists would come up with, I guess. Right. People don't understand economics. But we got Lydia. She's pressing all the buttons. I'm in the corner as well. I'm hoping that none of this penny that has to be paid, according to Joe Biden, applies to me as well.
Starting point is 00:03:53 But I guess we'll see. Free money. Hey, before we get started, head over to TimCast.com and become a member. We have a lot of work going on with the site right now, and upgrades are coming soon. New payment integration options. But you go to TimCast.com, you click that Members Only button, then you can go to the Members area. We have a huge library of exclusive Members Only content, some full podcast episodes. We had a great discussion with Michael Knowles, you may be a fan of his from The Daily Wire, about God,
Starting point is 00:04:18 faith, and religion, spirituality, just weird and just really interesting. Weird, I throw that out there because like Ian comes in with like the correlation between the metaphysical, the physics, and religion at the same time. So that's where it gets like really, and I mean weird in a good way, like interesting conversation. So go to TimCast.com, check that out. Don't forget to like, share, subscribe, hit the notification bell. And if you're listening on iTunes or Spotify or wherever else on podcasts, leave us a good review, give us five stars, and share the show with your friends. It really helps. Let's take a look at the first story of this op-ed from Joe Concha over at The Hill. He says Biden's poor TV ratings against Trump is exactly what this administration wants. I don't agree. But the point Joe is making is I believe it's a fair point,
Starting point is 00:05:01 though I do disagree. He basically says, you know, we know that Trump was just desperate for ratings. And he was, well, he didn't say desperate, but like bragging about how good his ratings were. Then we see Joe Biden. His ratings are in the gutter. Nobody wants to watch the guy. Nobody wants to watch CNN or MSNBC because they built a network on hating Trump. And Biden just ain't it. But he goes on to mention that with all of this massive spending,
Starting point is 00:05:20 he says $1.9 trillion for COVID relief, $2.25 trillion in infrastructure. With nobody paying attention to what Biden's doing, he can just keep doing these things and no one will stop him. I don't like the argument because who is going to stop him anyway? Mitch McConnell, he's not going to do anything. And all they really need the Democrats for is the rage vote. And then like clockwork, the traditional liberals go back to sleep. I experienced it in 2008. We're experienced it in 2008. We're watching it happen now. This is good news for disaffected liberals, moderates, conservatives, Trump supporters,
Starting point is 00:05:50 and whoever else on the right. Because this means that with liberals going to sleep, declaring victory, but only on a very, very slim victory. Well, the Republicans in 2022 will likely take the house and maybe even in 2024, we'll see what happens. But I wonder what y'all think about Joe Biden's inability to make anybody care about what he's doing. I think it's actually really interesting. I think we saw a bunch of that after the election, right? There were like two weeks where it seemed like we were just all going to celebrate Biden's victory, that the country was going to open up.
Starting point is 00:06:24 It seemed like that was the deal that was being made, that the nation was going to open up. It seemed like that was the deal that was being made, that the nation was being held hostage to a Biden victory. And then, you know, sure enough, they came crashing back down and locking everything up again, which actually seemed way worse than the first time. But I do think that liberals have pretty well gone to sleep because they figure that they've got their guy in, their guy is going to do the right thing. And that's that they were so invested in hating Trump, that anything that's not Trump, they think is good. And so they're not actually applying any critical thinking power to these policies that are being enacted. They're not looking at
Starting point is 00:07:00 what horror it's going to implement in the US. I wonder if they ever actually cared at all. I know people who have no business being in politics, like people who didn't vote in 08, 12, or 16, who all of a sudden were like filming videos of themselves where they're like, I got to put my ballot. They're like, are you doing your duty with your ballot? And I'm like, dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. You're just doing this because the guy on the TV said to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Is that really? It's tribal. So after that trend, what's the next trendy thing to do? It certainly is not Joe Biden. No one cares about him. No one cares about Joe Biden. But I do think it's interesting, too. We had in the fall, we had AOC, we had Bernie Sanders and other progressives complaining that Joe Biden wasn't going to be far left enough, that he wasn't going to install the progressive agenda. And now we're seeing them basically celebrating. You have Hillary Clinton saying he's doing a
Starting point is 00:07:49 bang up job. You have AOC saying that he's really being much more collaborative with progressives. And I think that the conservatives that held their nose and voted for Joe Biden, I think they were played. You know, they believed that Joe Biden was was just going to be ineffectual. You had Bill Kristol talking about how this was going to be the way to install and create a new conservatism, that all of this stuff was going to be easier for conservatives with Trump out of the way. And instead, they were completely steamrolled. You know, it was like a total bait and switch. They voted for a moderate guy who wasn't going to do anything and instead they got this progressive guy who's just spending all the money and then some but like
Starting point is 00:08:32 he's still not progressive enough for the actual socialists well aoc seems happy about him so far she said the other day before his his uh his state there. But, you know, does AOC actually have principles? Or is she just like a stop? She's like a pressure relief valve for the Democratic Party. Yeah. In the event the woke left becomes too disaffected, she then goes like, and they're like, oh, we're satisfied again. So, yeah, I'm not sure if she has any principles. She goes on for long periods of
Starting point is 00:09:05 time on Instagram Live, and we can try and sort it out. Although so much of it seems like just straight nonsense. There are rumors that because New York is losing a district, they're going to get rid of hers. Have you heard that? I have heard that. But is that true? I don't know. I mean, whoever's in charge would get to redraw the districts and the Democrats are in charge so they could redraw the districts. And the Democrats are in charge, so they could redraw the districts. And they could draw out a Republican district instead. Right. Yeah, that makes way more sense.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I mean, AOC has fallen in line. Like I said, she's a pressure release valve for the Democratic Party. The progressives get too angry. She comes in and she does her finger snap and then acts like Nancy Pelosi should get votes and then votes for Nancy Pelosi while pretending like she doesn't like Nancy Pelosi. She gets her whole crew on board. I don't think Joe Biden is a socialist. The socialists, the actual like, you know, Bernie DSA types think Joe Biden is a fascist,
Starting point is 00:09:58 just not as much of a fascist as Trump. And I'm like, OK, maybe, you know, whatever. I'm sure Joe Biden is not a good guy. He's corrupt. He's crooked. He's pro war, okay, maybe, you know, whatever. I'm sure Joe Biden is not a good guy. He's corrupt. He's crooked. He's pro-war. All these really awful things. So sure, I guess I'll give him that one. But to say he's not enacting far-left policies when he's just like
Starting point is 00:10:15 money printer Gobert just cranking out the bills to pay for stuff. He very clearly is. He rescinded the executive orders on critical race theory. He sure did. And now they have a new thing going through to more like mandate critical race theory in schools. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And that's pretty weird.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And you had McConnell coming out against it. I'm sorry. You mean to teach black history? No. No, no, no. Reuters says it's about teaching black history. We have black history. Black history is essential.
Starting point is 00:10:42 The civil rights movement is, of course, a monumental achievement in American history um but that's not what they're talking about they're talking about like you mean you mean reuters lied to me did you see the headline from reuters i'm not going to say that i don't want to get fact checked reuters reuters said republicans asked biden to end his divisive policy on teaching black history it is the most insane propaganda i agree and this stuff has been coming up in schools for a while. I think it's only recently, though, that parents have been seeing it. And that's why people have been able to speak out against it. Oddly enough, it's because of remote schooling that parents were able to see this stuff. I know that that happened in my house,
Starting point is 00:11:17 right? So my son kicked out of school March 16th with all of the other 1.1 million school children in New York City. And hardly any of them are back still. I think we recently reopened sort of middle and high schools, but there's like 300,000 kids back in schools, basically, the last number that I checked, which was maybe a month ago, actually. But once my son came home and I started seeing what was going on in the classroom, it wasn't really a big deal until after George Floyd was killed. And then I heard his teachers say that they were going to have a day talking about, I think it was a day talking about white privilege and another day talking about, you know, what happened and everything. So I set up my voice recorder to just record what was going on on his call. And I recorded hours of this conversation where the white kids were basically, he was actually the only white kid in the class.
Starting point is 00:12:19 So the white kids were basically told that they didn't even know that there was racism in their family, that their parents didn't know that they were racist, that their grandparents didn't know that they were racist. And I'm looking at our family, and I'm sure lots of parents did this as well. My son's grandmother was a public defender in Philadelphia. She defended MOVE members. I don't know if you guys know who that is. She defended— Do you want to briefly describe?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Oh, so Move was a black nationalist organization. They were in West Philadelphia. They were targeted by the FBI and the city. They were eventually bombed in this horrible situation. I think it was 85, maybe. They were bombed by a black mayor who teamed up with the FBI. And so that's what is that your mom who defended you? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:13:06 That is my son's dad's mom. Yeah. And she passed. Defended the movement. She defended, yeah. I believe she defended Eddie Africa. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But the teacher said that this is a racist person. This is a racist family. My grandmother was a public school teacher in Brownsville Brooklyn in the 40s her parents were immigrants but I mean it doesn't it doesn't even matter what your background is right I mean the idea that a teacher should be telling you that your grandparents are probably racist and that they don't know it and that you don't know it and that this is just the passed down legacy through your family on the basis of your skin color is absurd. That a teacher should be telling a kid that anything is a product of skin color or race is completely anathema to the civil rights movement that is what should be being taught,
Starting point is 00:13:57 right? You know what's really funny about critical race theory? When you look up the Wikipedia for it, they have to define what white supremacy means because it doesn't mean what people think it means. So it actually says CRT is loosely unified by two common themes. First, that white supremacy exists and maintains power through the law. They then add in parentheses after white supremacy, societal racism. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Because in the language of the cult members, when they say white supremacy, they don't mean what 98% of Americans understand it to be, that a white supremacist is somebody who believes white people are superior or supreme. They've just changed it to be now just objectivity and history and math. Being on time. Being on time as a white supremacist. Yeah, I think it's sort of interesting, too, because the new definition of white supremacy means that there can be no way to educate yourself out of it. There's no way to have forgiveness. There's no reconciliation at all. It's just it's a permanent condition until, you know, and looking at something like systemic racism, basically the entire society needs to be dismantled before
Starting point is 00:15:05 that can be repaired. And we're looking at a set of theories that the people who support them, the idea would be you have to dismantle society, but they're not offering anything to rebuild it on, right? It's just a completely destructive idea. I agree. And I often refer to it as a chaotic and destructive force because there's no real rules. Like, is women offensive today because you guys say Wemixin, but then Wemixin is offensive because it excludes certain women. And I think maybe the reality is there may be competing interests in terms of what comes next. The one thing they all agree on is destroy the system. Destroy the system. But I do think many of those who claim to be trained Marxists don't want to tell you
Starting point is 00:15:49 what their actual solution is because people would revolt if they found out what these people were planning. And so they say, we've got to tear down white supremacy. And everyone goes, that sounds pretty good to me.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And then, first of all, they don't mean literal white supremacy. They mean some ridiculous, nonsensical term. They say we're anti-racist, which doesn't mean literal white supremacy. They mean some ridiculous, nonsensical term. They say we're anti-racist, which doesn't mean not racist. It doesn't mean not racist. It literally means be racist. And then they say diverse, which also is just another diversity, inclusivity, and equity are just more buzzwords that don't really make a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And then that's the halfway. Right. After they burned all to the ground, what they want is probably, you know, moral authoritarianism. They have control. They can have whatever they want. You go live in the gutter. I think that's really interesting, too. And I think conservatives pushed away from having any sort of moral compass after the 90s Christian right takeover of Congress with Newt Gingrich and all of those guys. And the conservatives were pretty well slammed at that point for having a moral perspective
Starting point is 00:16:49 and having it be a Christian moral perspective and having that be oppressive and the wrong thing to do. And after that, conservatives embraced relativism in a very real way. You know, the liberals were embracing relativism. Anything you do is fine, if that's what you want to do, which to a certain extent, you know, there's nothing for it, people are going to do what they want to do, whether you want to judge them for it or not. But the conservatives left a vacuum of moral authority and of moral perspective. And it's been filled with something that has actually no basis, right?
Starting point is 00:17:28 So if you look at, for example, let's take a religious moral perspective, you could have the Ten Commandments in there, right? That could be a basis upon which you're making determinations. You could use the Beatitudes in the Gospel according to Matthew as a basis to make determinations, which is basically, be really kind, you guys, right? But when we look at the contemporary leftist moral framework, there's no foundation. There's no basis.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I agree. So it's just this shifting sands of a value system that is whatever you want it to be whenever you want it to be it, so long as you can use it to maintain your own power. It's like a hologram. Yeah. It's like a hologram of a religion. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I was reading this book a long time ago. I don't know how true any of this stuff is. It was like a book on quantum physics. And they talked about how the chemical properties of an element, Ian, this is probably up your alley, a chemical property of an element is based on the amount of electrons. Is that like, you know, so hydrogen is one, helium is two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And so they said something interesting happened when they were working on circuit boards when an electron got trapped in you know this one part of the board where there's i'm probably totally ruining this concept maybe you guys listening understand what this is i was reading a book this is like 10 years ago they said they were sending electrons through you know pathways in a circuit board and they had they had an area where basically the electron got stuck in a, you know, small space and it began to orbit nothing. But it began to exude the chemical properties of hydrogen with no nucleus. Oh, interesting. And so I think about that, again, more of Ian's alley in this regard, but it's vaguely similar
Starting point is 00:19:01 in that that's what I feel like we have with critical race theory. It's missing the nucleus core component of a real moral framework. Like, you could disagree with religions and what these people believe, but there's like, as you mentioned, a foundation to where these ideas come from, how they've persisted this long.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Bad ideas go away. Good ideas remain, become stronger. And then you look at woke and it's hollow. Well, it's because there's no synthesis, right? There's only woke. There's only this critical race system or this gender critical, you know, not gender critical.
Starting point is 00:19:36 That's a little different. Critical theory. Critical theory. Let me point something out real quick too. I am partly bothered by how many people just keep saying critical race theory over and over again, ignoring critical gender theory. That's part of it, too. Critical theory as a whole.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Critical theory. And the problem is that because of the way that it's constructed in society, you can broach these ideas, but you can't broach any opposition to them. Because if you broach opposition to them, then there's something wrong with you and you are a racist or transphobic or whatever the other things are that you could be labeled. You're a bigot in some sense of the word. But unless these critical theories are challenged, there's no synthesis to the better idea. They just stand there on their own and they need to be challenged. We need to challenge every idea that we have and we need to be challenging our ideas all the time. mentioned uh how your son was in school he started to wake up and stuff this this brings me to this next story we have from the
Starting point is 00:20:29 post-millennial oh anti-critical race theory candidates for school board when overwhelming support from dallas parents candidates who ran on an anti-critical race theory platform won two open school board seats in dallas's south lake district on on Saturday with a landslide, almost 70% majority. I mean, that's the bulk of the story. I think, again, it's heavily focused on race theory. And I think a lot of parents are actually having a bigger reaction to gender theory. The gender theory is definitely coming down the road. And a lot of that originated in British Columbia in Canada.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Yeah. And, you know, you have the gender unicorn and the gender gingerbread man, and it's been pushed very heavily. Ginger person? The ginger, yeah. Gingerbread person? Not gingerbread man, of course. Gender bread?
Starting point is 00:21:13 Gender bread? Mix them or whatever, you know, with the X. But I think, there's a couple things that have happened here, and I'll, you know, try to be as respectful and delicate as possible for YouTube and their censors. But there have been lawsuits. The parents of young biological females concerned about their opportunities in athletics has resulted in lawsuits. Yes. We recently had Caitlyn Jenner, who is a trans woman, come out and say that it was unfair.
Starting point is 00:21:40 But I think things like that, so not to derail too much, but it's not just race theory. That's correct. Parents are learning about all of these different things and saying, hey, you know, wait a minute. It's not fair to discriminate against someone based on their immutable characteristics. That's correct. And it's also not right to tell someone that their immutable characteristics need to be changed in order for them to be who they really are. Since I wrote the story this summer about my son's education, a lot of parents reached out to me from across the country to tell me about their experiences. And I had a mom in California telling me about the gender education that her child was receiving. And she had actually gone to a school board meeting and had seen the slides of the way that the curriculum was going to be
Starting point is 00:22:26 implemented from kindergarten all the way through 12th grade. And it starts off with a book about a boy who wants to wear a dress, and it moves right through, you know, gender transition altogether. And she moved her kid to Texas in order to get away from this. And I've recently been talking to a lot of parents about how things are going with regard to reopening schools. We had this promise from Joe Biden that schools were going to be reopened at the end of 100 days. And it's just not actually true. The schools are not open. Are you shocked? It's shocking. This can't be right. It just can't be real. Ian, do you believe that Joe Biden would lie to us?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Never. And it turns out, so my question started to be, what does open mean? What does that mean to you? You know, what are your feelings about it? My personal truth in the word open means closed. Right. It turns out that you would be correct. A lot of the schools are still closed. Schools that were closed in the fall are still closed. Schools that were open in the fall are still open. So the idea that anything that Biden has done has actually resulted in reopening schools is complete farce. I think we've got to move to Florida. Everybody just – We keep talking about that at Postmillennial. Moving to Postmillennial to Florida?
Starting point is 00:23:45 We keep being like, hey, let's just all move to Florida. I don't want to derail just yet, but we will be talking about this new bill that's on the verge of getting passed, which is going to change the game in terms of social media and what it means for you guys. But we'll keep it on the critical race here in the school stuff for now. We'll get to that later. But, yeah, I think a lot of parents realized this, and I think what we're seeing is interesting with this one story that you guys, a lot of people wrote about the story, but you know, the one we just pulled up.
Starting point is 00:24:09 This is a district that narrowly went for Biden by, I think like it was like five point swing. So it's like 47 for Trump, 52 for Biden. The county went for Trump. So, you know, depending on which, which metric you use, you can make an argument. But I think when you're looking at these suburbs, which they said, white affluent suburbs actually went for Biden more and Trump actually lost white voters and gained Latinos and black voters.
Starting point is 00:24:32 The fact that you have white affluent suburbanites pushing back against this, I think this is where we see traditional liberals falling asleep. And then those who are forced to wake up, really waking up and swinging a 70-point lead for the anti-critical race theory. What do you think could happen in 2022 when these traditional libs are just not paying attention and the disaffected liberals who are are like, what is happening? They keep being more disaffected liberals. I used to work in theater, and I've heard from people who don't want to be named and
Starting point is 00:25:04 don't want to be public, but they reach out to me and they're like, Hey, this stuff is crazy. And I'm like, dude, I know I have been telling you for a while that this stuff is crazy. Um, and they don't want to believe it because they were so married to their ideology and you can't be married to an ideology. There's, there's just no sense in that. You constantly have to question it. If you can't be married to an ideology. There's just no sense in that. You constantly have to question it. If you don't know why you believe what you believe, then why do you believe it? It's really interesting talking to someone who's particularly religious. Like I was talking to Michael Knowles, man.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Like I mentioned, we got over at TimCast.com this longer bonus segment. We did with Michael talking about religion for like an hour. And Ian talking about space and everything. And it's really fascinating and then after even even after the show you know we're hanging out just chilling and having this conversation michael knows a lot now maybe it's not fair to compare like your average liberal to someone as well read as michael knolls but every conversation i have with someone who is religious and like legitimately they can tell me some things about it why they believe it i understand there are a lot of people who are probably just like i don't
Starting point is 00:26:09 know and and you know i wouldn't say that they're you know i don't know it it exists but if i take the average like i'm trying to avoid calling people out but we've spoken with people even on this show who could not tell us what was going on with critical race theory, why they would support it or oppose it. Granted, Destiny actually really did. So you're familiar with Destiny, right? Yeah. He actually knew a ton about it and actually articulated why he was for it. And I was impressed with that because I talked to a lot of people who have prominent channels and they're like, well, I mean, it's just like you oppose racism.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Right. And I'm like, is that what you really think? Like, did you actually read any of this stuff? Right. Like, you look at some of Christopher Ruffo's research, and it's like a laboratory sending white people on a retreat to condemn white people. Like, that's against this violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Yes. So I talked to so many conservatives about religion, and they'll talk about what the saint said or what they learned in this chapter or this verse.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Like, they actually did some research or reading. And I talked to my, my liberal friends who are following this stuff, my progressive friends, and they don't know anything about the roots. They don't know anything about where it comes from or what it means. And I think that's really, I think it's interesting. I think it says a lot. I think it says a lot about our educational system. I think it says a lot about, um, you know, where all of that stuff landed.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So the people who are liberals now were educated in a college system, in a high school system, you know, that basically gave all of this stuff as gospel. This is what you were supposed to believe. And I would even say, you know, the concept of climate alarmism. These are all concepts that are opinions, right? And they are dictated to children. And children form, have the opinions by rote. They have the opinions before they have the information. So they take their opinion, and then once they're taught the actual information, they already have been told how to think about it. So that's not, you know, that's not going to be effective in terms of creating people who can think for themselves. You need to provide the information and then you need to say, these people think this about it. These people think this about it.
Starting point is 00:28:17 What do you think about it? Synthesize that information. Synthesize the opinions. Think critically about it yourself. And come up with what you think. And if we're not doing that, we're just creating a generation of stupid, manageable children. You know, I was on the way back the other day. I was thinking about, I can't remember exactly what happened, what made me think about this,
Starting point is 00:28:40 but people just don't care about their community anymore. And so you mentioned these are opinions being dictated to children. More than you probably realize, I think most of these things that we learn are actually opinions, but they're expert opinions. There's a difference between like some regular guy on the street being like the sky is, you know, made like the clouds are made of marshmallow and you're like, okay, dude, that's not an opinion. That's just like crazy. And so there are things we believe to be fact. There are things that are fact. When it comes to science, we have the challenge of trusting people.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And so when it comes to a scientist telling you what a cloud is, it's like, have you ever really gone up there and actually done the research to prove it? That's water vapor.
Starting point is 00:29:15 You haven't. But most people reasonably conclude some things are true. Like if I throw a rock in a window, the window will likely break. There's a fact. When it comes to a lot of things
Starting point is 00:29:22 that we teach children, they're actually just expert opinions based on available data. That's why science changes so often. So I guess it's fair to say to a certain degree, we suspect these things are facts. Science eventually gets to that point. But what's happened is this understanding of history and science is being exploited by what I refer to as the cult. I think there's not a case of cult. It's because it's like a religion with no nucleus, no moral foundation. So what they see is, hey, wait a minute. When you tell these kids something based off the available data,
Starting point is 00:29:54 it's an expert analysis that you believe to be true. Now, obviously, some things are tested and there are control groups. There are some things we don't have control groups for, which make it very difficult, notably climate change. Right. There's no control plan. It's very difficult. However, I do fall into the category of someone who believes climate change is an issue.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I think humans mass consume will lead to serious problems. To me, that just feels like, based on everything I've seen, it kind of mathematically adds up to this point. However, that's just me trusting. It's also me just giving my personal analysis as someone who reads the news. For a lot of these scientists, they're experts who have the availability of lots of data and can draw a conclusion.
Starting point is 00:30:32 But this is why science is often wrong. Exploiting that system is very easy. And that's what the critical race theorists, the critical theorists are doing. The difference is there's actually climate data. Now, granted, some people don't agree with it, don't believe it. I happen to think that's incorrect. But when it comes to critical race theory, what you have there is we made up a thing that we think is true. We think one race is mean to the other race. There's
Starting point is 00:30:56 no hard data. There's no numbers. We can argue numbers. We can argue science around ice shelves or something like that. Well, but with critical race theory, they're taking data from 50, 70 years ago, and they're using it as though that data is still relevant for society today. And that's a big problem. It completely eradicates the civil rights movement. Maxine Waters saying that the country is getting more racist every day.
Starting point is 00:31:22 She's a sitting congresswoman from the state of California, and she has been for a very long time. She's a lot of power. She's a pretty bad job of ending racism, I guess. Yeah, she, you know, and you have Biden talking about systemic racism. Well, he's been in federal government since the 70s. Where has he been? What has he been doing about it? Oh, he was making that systemic racism. He was, you know, working on it, I guess, real hard. The other direction. Yeah, you know, I just don't think that, anyway, all of this stuff is being taught because the people who are teaching it have an agenda.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And not the people who are teaching it, but it's coming down even from, not from the teachers themselves. Like in New York City, you had, and he's not there anymore, but you had Richard Carranza, who was the school's chancellor, and he was basically dictating this kind of education. He was saying that it had to be that way. Under the Obama administration, we had common core curriculum come in, which basically what it does is it teaches the same subject, like the same sort of content in every subject. So in math, you're learning about racism. In English class, you're learning about racism. Well, Common Core, what it does is it links all of the things that you're learning around sort of one kind of subject. So you're learning about one thing in all of your disciplines.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And that's something that happened under that because it was supposedly easier to study things that way. But when you don't allow teachers to design their own curriculum, I think that's a problem. We have really intelligent teachers. They should have a little more say over how they educate the kids in their charge. I think, just to touch on the point I was making, when you talk about racism and privilege, it's impossible to quantify.
Starting point is 00:33:07 They can say something like white people are stopped this many times and black people are stopped by police this many times, and that doesn't prove or mean anything. You'll hear from the left, they say that's proof of racism. And then you'll hear from the right, that's proof they're committing more crimes. So it is interesting because simply by nature of getting arrested does not mean that, you know, black people are committing more crimes. However, it also doesn't mean that cops are being more racist. What's the determination? So the left chooses what they want to believe, cites the data, and claims the data is true based on their personal argument about it. And I think that happens a lot with data.
Starting point is 00:33:41 I think data can be used to prove whatever it is that you want it to tell you. John McWhorter talks about this. He talks about how the difference in percentage is very similar to the difference in percentage of poverty. The difference in percentage of crimes committed is very similar. It's like the same percentage. I think he said it was 2.5%. And he's a fascinating thinker as well. But I think he said it was 2.5%. And he's a, you know, he's a fascinating thinker as well. But I think that that's a big part of the problem is people just use the data to construct a narrative that they then support with everything else that they're doing, decide that those are facts, and then perpetrate them. I see that a lot in the climate science arguments,
Starting point is 00:34:19 when it's like saying there are six sandwiches, and you eat one sandwich a day. In six days, we're not going to have any sandwiches. Everybody, in six days, we're out. But they take no account of outside influences that someone might bring a delivery of sandwiches, that we can figure out how to reuse the sandwich. Well, you had John Kerry recently saying that we had nine years left until the end of the world. He said something like that. And he was parroting what AOC had said a few years back when she said there were 12 years left. And a reporter asked Jen Psaki, the White House press secretary, if there were nine years left.
Starting point is 00:34:50 And she said something like, I don't have anything else to preview for you on that. And it's like, do you really think there's nine years left until it's the end of the world? And that is what alarmism is, right? Like, we used to use whale oil for everything. We used whale oil in lamps and to make, you know, what was it, tallow candles? Yeah, like, well, that's Moby Dick, right? Moby Dick was a book about energy consumption and, like, harvesting energy. So we hunted whales to near
Starting point is 00:35:20 extinction. That was a big problem until we found a new energy source. And then we could, you know, congratulate ourselves for saving the whales. We would not have saved the whales if we didn't find some better energy source.
Starting point is 00:35:32 People don't understand this too. I was reading about slavery. Slavery didn't end because of some moral imperative from good people. Right. It ended because of invention.
Starting point is 00:35:40 The cotton gin. Yeah, yeah. And there were good people trying to end slavery. I mean, the abolitionist movement was, I think, an important moral perspective. A lot of really amazing people and one of the bloodiest wars ever fought to end slavery. But the catalyst was for a lot of people, they're unwilling to give up their comfort. So it wasn't until people got access to cheaper goods and no longer needed it
Starting point is 00:36:06 that they were all of a sudden having this moral epiphany about why it was so wrong to do. Right. The Romans never ended slavery. Yeah. Well, so we saved the whales, just like you mentioned. It was only once we didn't need them, we were all of a sudden like, oh, hey, you know, you got to save the whales now. So then the question becomes, are these sustainable energy resources that we're plunking so much money into and demanding that we remake our society in service to, are they really energy efficient enough to do what needs to be done to further humanity's interests? Are they? Wind and solar?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Not alone. Not alone. And we're shutting down nuclear energy plants. Right. That's not smart. And I don't think that is super smart. I think that's sort of dumb. And we're shutting down nuclear energy plants because, why?
Starting point is 00:36:51 Because the baby boomers, it made them feel icky. Do you know about the manure, the projected manure crisis of New York? No. So I guess at the turn of the century, 1800s to 1900s, there were, I guess, scientists and individuals warning that due to population growth, that the cities would have six-foot piles of horse crap everywhere in every corner because people needed horses. Horses take dumps. And when you're going through the city and the city's growing, there's just going to be too many horses. So they were generally concerned about it. And then the car was invented.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And then it was OK. And then all of a sudden. Right. So I suppose the issue is, you know, I think it's fair to say we have to keep a close eye on what we do as humans, because to think that we're invincible or immortal, I believe would be stupid. But also we should be heavily focused on advancing technology. I agree.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Not shutting it down. And so unfortunately for us, it's a key component of the left to oppose nuclear energy. Like even Tulsi Gabbard, I'm a big fan. She opposed nuclear energy. And I was like, I think you could convince her if you actually show her the data. Modern nuclear technology is fantastic. It's carbon neutral. It's a massive energy return on energy invested.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And it's something we should be doing. Right. But we don't. And we completely discount the waste that is inherent in sustainable energy. Those wind turbines, they die. They can't be reused. They're going to litter the landscape. The kinds of materials that are used to create solar panels, what's in those things?
Starting point is 00:38:23 How are they constructed? I don't think we're actually considering the side effects of any of those things. We're just assuming that because it's sun and wind and those are friendly and filled with flowers, it's all okay. Have you seen the original Iron Man? No. I got to squeeze in my pop culture. Go for it. So in the original Iron Man, Stark comes back from the desert.
Starting point is 00:38:47 He built this thing called an arc reactor. He's with Obadiah Stane, who's – spoiler alert. It's been, what, 13 years? He's the villain. And they're looking at the arc reactor. It's like this gigantic glass cylinder thing. And Tony says to him, he's like, look, we should look into our technology. And Obadiah says, we built that for the hippies. The thing was never cost effective. That's how I feel with
Starting point is 00:39:11 a lot of the investment into photovoltaic solar and a lot of wind. Wind can be great, but you can't use it alone. What happens when the wind is weak? What happens when you don't have battery power? So it's a good supplemental, but there has to be a stronger and robust backup system. One of the problems with photovoltaic, this is solar panels. Right. Because there's also other kinds of solar energy that can be generated. So like mirrors reflecting into big vats of like saltwater or something. Well, there's the passive solar versus the PVs, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So one of the things people don't realize about photovoltaic solar is that it's a luxury item for wealthy people. Well, it sure is. I learned this when I actually talked to a solar company and I was like, this is gonna be great. It's gonna save me money, right? And they were like, no. They were like, maybe in 20 or 30 years.
Starting point is 00:39:56 They were like, but the reality is people get these because it's a backup system. And I was like, what? And I was like, I thought we were getting this because it's gonna reduce our energy consumption. And they were like, I? And I was like, I thought we were getting this because it's going to reduce our energy consumption. And they were like, I mean, a little bit, but the amount of carbon and energy that is used to build these things, you're not going to get that back for a couple decades. So hopefully, you know, we're getting better and better energy output from our photovoltaic. You can just say PVs.
Starting point is 00:40:24 PVs. There we go pv technology um it's getting better and better and maybe we'll get to that point where it does become immediately more cost effective but people need to understand the machines to transport wind turbines burn in carbon and you need lots of big trucks to move these massive things we don't have enough superconductors to to get this energy where it needs to go we don't have enough you know energy storage so even when you have pvs on your roof and everything like that you're still sending the energy back to the grid it's not off grid it's just you're generating you're like your own little power plant generating energy and sending it back we ended up not doing solar i was kind of bummed and the main reason was they were like
Starting point is 00:41:03 yeah you'll have a it's like a generator. And I was like, so if I just do like a diesel generator, it's better, faster, cheaper, and I'll waste less energy because you fill up your diesel tank one time
Starting point is 00:41:13 and you never use it. That's right. And then it just sits there for you. Yep. And so they were like, yeah, but you know, maybe after 20 years. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:41:21 but won't there be wear and tear after 20 years? Won't I have to deal with like getting the roof fixed, taking these things down? They're like, yeah. And I was like, but won't there be wear and tear for 20 years? Won't I have to deal with like getting the roof fixed, taking these things down? They're like, yeah. And I was like, okay. Well, you don't want to put PVs on a roof that's going to need repair. Exactly. And so, you know, they do this new thing with Tesla. They're called solar shingles. And it's when I actually talked to them about it, the function of a roof, the repairs needed, it just didn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:41:48 I mean, there's a lot of cool technology. The question is, should we base our entire society on it? Should we spend all of this money to re-educate everyone so that this is the only thing they know how to do? I don't think that's a great idea. Not necessarily no.
Starting point is 00:42:02 The problem is, you look at these Marxists and they talk about Marx and his writings about the future and where humanity ends up and they love to cite Star Trek and that's very offensive to me as a huge Star Trek fan. Why is it offensive? They claim that the
Starting point is 00:42:17 Federation and Star Trek is communist. Oh, I don't think it is. It's not communist. People have beachfront property. There's Federation credits. There's hierarchy but you can choose to serve or not. It's think it is. It's not communist. It's not communist at all, yeah. People have beachfront property. There's federation credits. There's hierarchy, but you can choose to serve or not. It's classically liberal. It's a very classically liberal society. And you can still have your own vineyard.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Exactly. And they've created and they have – they've ended scarcity through replication. That's what changed their system. But I digress. That's just a story. But these communists like to claim that's the future that Marx envisioned, the communist future. And I'm like, sure, maybe. But Marx didn't understand, like, what you guys are proposing won't exist until we invent
Starting point is 00:42:54 replicators, things that can literally pull ambient energy from the air and convert energy into matter. Maybe once we have that, I'm willing to- Yeah, we don't have that. Right. And so all of these people who are talking about the future, green energy, I'm like, maybe we're just not there. Maybe we should be putting all this money into fusion technology.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Well, or maybe we should be allowing a little bit more of the market to decide how things go instead of using moral cudgels to destroy some kinds of energy generation and to bolster other kinds. It doesn't seem like, I just don't think the federal government should be involved in determining how we're all going to be living and working. If you look at it that way, it just doesn't make any sense. Well, I'll give you the, I guess, predictable centrist position. I don't think the free market can solve the issue for the most part, like a totally laissez-faire, just open, go for it, because I think we'd end up like yeast in a bottle just farting ourselves to death. What works in the short term is – and eventually we hit a wall and then there may be a point where we go off a cliff. However, a command economy absolutely doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Some random bureaucrat deciding we're going to build this thing makes literally no sense. Well, and it's Joe Biden and his his cronies deciding that we're going to do it this way. And you don't see data as to why it should be done that way. All you hear is that this is compassionate. Somehow it's compassionate to the earth or it's compassionate manipulation. Yeah. And I don't think that the using compassionate they're just beating us to death with our own compassion. And that's true with the race stuff and the gender stuff as well.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Don't you feel bad for everybody? Well, sure, I feel bad for everybody. Okay, well, then you have to do all of these things to ameliorate yourself feeling bad for everybody. And that's when you see the liberals start to fall asleep. They figure, I've done the right thing. Now I get to live how I please. You know, everyone else is going to live how they please.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And they're not realizing that remaking society in this way is just going to destroy it. But it works on conservatives, too. Once enough people fall for the emotional argument, the hardline conservatives fall in line because they have no choice. We were talking about this before, the bowtie-wearing, socially liberal, fiscally conservative types who just wanted to sit back and get their tax breaks and not really worry too much about anything else and let the rest kind of just roll along. And they did that. And this is the society that we have. And now you have a new group of conservatives. And I think you're seeing it in a lot of independent conservative media as well. And they're much more socially conservative they're more fiscally liberal but not with regard to the same causes
Starting point is 00:45:52 that the liberals are pushing and I think there's going to be a split if we do see 2022, if we do see conservatives taking the house back, I think we're going to see the new conservatives doing it. We we're going to see the new conservatives doing it. We're not going to see these old style Lindsey Graham, you know, Mitch McConnell type of guys doing it. Milk toast Mitch, that's
Starting point is 00:46:14 what I'm calling it. We're not, yeah. I mean, we're not going to see those, that style of conservatism is not coming back and I don't think it should. I think it was sort of arrogant and boring and didn't really take into consideration what it turns out half the population is interested in. I just realized Mitch McConnell actually reminds me of the original Milk Toast character, Casper Milk Toast.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Yeah. So you're familiar with where Milk Toast comes from? I was not. I'm just always impressed that I can spell it. It's an old comic about a guy who is like deferential and weak and milquetoast because the artist considered that to be just like the most boring breakfast you could have, milquetoast. Right. And so it's just like – He's just an old man with glasses. He has a mustache. McConnell doesn't. But I look at McConnell – we like to joke I'm the milquetoast fence sitter, Tim Pool, centrist, whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But the reality is I get heated on this, you know, on the show talking about, say, 2A or taxes or billionaires manipulating elections. But Mitch McConnell, what is he doing? What does he ever really do? Yeah, I mean, he's trying to push back on this critical race theory thing, but I don't think he's... Only after they lose everything? Only just now. Yeah, I don't think he's
Starting point is 00:47:19 going to win. He was also pushing back against Trump, I think, rather substantially. And Lindsey Graham only came around after it turned out his constituents wanted him to support Trump. And Lindsey will walk up and high five Kamala Harris. Well, he'll do whatever he has to do to stay in office. I think that's pretty clear. But we have some good news for conservatives, though. This might change the game here. We got this story from The Hill. Florida passes bill prohibiting social media companies from banning politicians it's way
Starting point is 00:47:46 more than that i don't i don't think people realize that sb 70 72 now there's some really interesting weird stuff they put in it they like amended it to include if you have a theme park you're excluded from this or something well disney's kind of cool. Yeah, right? So what is FaceSpark? FacePark. Facebook will open FacePark, and Twitter will open Twitter World to try and get past this, because it's not just about politicians. This also protects news organizations. So this is fascinating. I've got SB 7072 pulled up, and it's kind of annoying to go through the whole thing. But it also has something to do with, like, antitrust.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Let me see if I can just pull up a journalistic enterprise. There we go. Check this out. Journalistic enterprise, according to this new bill means an entity doing business in Florida that publishes an excess of a hundred thousand words available online with at least 50,000 paid subscribers or 100,000 monthly active users publishes 100 hours of audio or video available online with at least 100 million viewers annually. That's us.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And the other one is you, the post-millennial. I'm pretty sure you have more than 100,000 monthly active users. You probably get that on a single article, I'd imagine. Yeah. That means if you were operating in Florida,
Starting point is 00:49:05 Wikipedia could not remove you from sources. You could not be banned from Twitter. So let me make sure I pull this up because there have been some changes. But my understanding is that a journalistic enterprise can't be banned based on their opinions, the content of their articles.
Starting point is 00:49:24 So that would be like the New York Post was suppressed and banned on Facebook. It was banned on Twitter. Their account was taken down for a little while. That was in the fall with the Hunter Biden stuff. I think that was so interesting. I think that opened a lot of people's eyes to what was going on with social media and with suppression and with fact checking and with the control that social media companies really have in the marketplace of ideas right now.
Starting point is 00:49:51 They can decide if an idea lives or dies or is exposed to the public or not. I think DeSantis is a pretty fascinating guy. I appreciate that he just goes for it on so many policies. I liked what he did with this whole COVID thing. He was just like, nope. What concerns me about this bill is that people will just stop operating
Starting point is 00:50:12 in Florida. If I ran Facebook, I'd be like, all right, not operating in Florida. I found it. They say, a social media platform may not take any action to censor, deplatform, or shadow ban a journalistic enterprise based on the content of its publication or broadcast. Post-prioritization, which is the algorithm, of certain journalistic enterprise content based on payments to the social media platform by such journalistic enterprise is not a violation of this paragraph.
Starting point is 00:50:36 This paragraph does not apply if the content or material is obscene as defined in S-847-001. So there's some exclusions, but this will be the end of Wikipedia as we know it. Do you think? It'll just go down. So Wikipedia, I don't think, should be protected by Section 230. No, I don't think so either. Because I don't think they are a platform. I think they're clearly a publisher.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Well, so specifically, let's jump over to the Critical Race Theory article we already had pulled up. It says, Critical Race Theory from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It doesn't say from user Joe Bob Jr. Or Joe Bob Jr. That's Joe Biden. He's Joe Bob.
Starting point is 00:51:15 You know Joe Biden's actually Joe Bob Jr.? I did not. Yeah, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. Oh, my goodness. Anyway, I digress. It says from Wikipedia. So my argument is just because I submit a comment, if I comment to the New York Times and they publish it in an article and it says the New
Starting point is 00:51:32 York Times article and then it puts my words there, that's from them, not from me. So this is interesting. Wikipedia won't allow you to use certain sources. I'm probably, I'd be willing to make a substantial bet the Post Millennial is not allowed on Wikipedia. I think we have an entry. No, no, no. I mean like your articles can't be used as citations. Because they'll say it's not reliable. Really?
Starting point is 00:51:59 Is that right? Can we not be used as a source? I don't know about you specifically. I bet. So there's a lot of outlets that are not allowed. Media Matters is considered credible but biased. NewsGuard considers Media Matters A-OK, credible. But Wikipedia has a lot of sources that are deemed not credible, and they can't be used.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Or if they're not certified credible, you can't use them either. They'll challenge these news outlets. OK. Can't do that no more under this new bill in Florida. If your organization operates in Florida, Wikipedia can't remove your content on the, can't remove your stories
Starting point is 00:52:32 on the basis of the content. So perhaps they could argue, no, no, no, we've banned the outlet outright. Right. What's the reason for banning the outlet? We don't consider them reliable.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Why don't you consider it? Because of the content. They pop, pop, pop, pop. The bill says you can't do that, which would mean you would look at critical race theory. Anything could be added from the Postmillennial. Anything could be added from Gateway Pundit or from the Daily Wire or the
Starting point is 00:52:55 Federalist. But the thing that you end up with, though, is you end up with editors on Wikipedia. You end up with the you know, you can end up in weird Wikipedia wars where you go in and change something and then the editor who had it there in the first place goes in and changes it. And this can go on for a long time. And this is where the interesting lawsuits erupt with this SB 7072. They say that users have to be given a bunch of special provisions.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Like they have to be informed as to why they're being removed. They have to be given access to all of their data made available immediately. If they don't, they can be sued. I think as soon as DeSantis signs this, you're going to have Jim Bob with one follower sign up or zero followers, post something outrageous, get banned, and immediately file a lawsuit. And then they will get slammed by probably hundreds of lawsuits overnight they won't be able to deal with. Well, what would happen then in the courts? i mean what how would they deal with that well so we have a fine system aren't they isn't it like yes a hundred hundred thousand dollar fine or ten thousand dollar fine depending on if you suppress either that or they'll just open everything up and not
Starting point is 00:53:58 ban anything and that would kind of be i think a better situation i think that's probably the goal of it is to have just have a much more free and open ideas so library online there's a funny meme where it's the npc meme you ever seen it where it's like the npc face and then a guy responds and then angry npc face and he says my opinions are being censored on the internet he's wearing a maga hat right and then the uh the normal guy says and what opinions are those? And the NPC gets an angry face. Well, they're trying to imply because there's other memes that are similar that conservatives are only complaining because they're racists. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Well, that's always the argument. But it's not true. No, but it also doesn't matter if it's not true. Because once you get called some of these things, there's no way to walk it back. You know, there was – what was it? Like a couple of years ago or whatever, there was this weatherman who said the wrong thing. And he didn't mean to say the wrong thing. It was just the way that his mouth formed the words.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It was like a Freudian portmanteau of two words. Right. But he didn't even mean it. It was just – it was like a weird linguistic thing. And John McCorder, who is a linguist at Columbia University, came out and said, actually, this is a pretty common thing that happens. This is a weird way that your mouth moves, the way that language sort of works in your mouth. It was like a very, and dude lost his job. But so, so, so the issue is. Because it didn't matter. Like, it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters are the
Starting point is 00:55:23 appearances. We live in a very shallow culture right now. Right, right, right. In this capacity, what I'm bringing up is conservatives getting banned for their political opinions. It's not just because they're racist. You get banned for saying, learn to code. For criticizing journalists, they will remove you from these platforms. Many people
Starting point is 00:55:39 who did not break the rules but were bombastic got banned from social media and they claimed some arbitrary or vague understanding of the rules, notably in the case, or outright lies, according to James O'Keefe. Right. Because they banned him, supposedly, so Twitter says, for operating multiple accounts, and James is now suing them for this.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Right. I thought that was really interesting, too, and I think he's got a lot of nerve for doing that. I respect it. Absolutely. And you saw they launched PV Legal? No. No, I didn't see that. So actually we had James on the show and I mentioned maybe we do something
Starting point is 00:56:09 like the People's Defamation Defense Fund or something. Oh great. And then James was like I'm going to go do it. Nice. And so he did it. So sweet. Good for him. But the main point is conservatives lose. They're going to lose because they're excised from political discourse. Trump's, some of his biggest supporters were not allowed to rally people and communicate and post online.
Starting point is 00:56:30 They got banned across the board. Right. And the most extreme leftists were allowed to stay on and say crazy, crazy things. And they do say crazy things. Violence, call for violence, organizing violence. Well, and there's all of these Antifa accounts as well that just call for, you know, when there's going to be protests and things and tell everyone where to go and then show up. And, you know, this is something Andy Ngo works on a lot with another one of our reporters, Mia Cassell. And they're tracking this all the time. They're tracking these, you know, events that are just organized out in public.
Starting point is 00:57:01 And then you had the situation with, you know, the Capitol riot, the January 6th, which is, of course, the worst thing that has ever happened in this country since the Civil War, you guys. So just be aware of that. Yeah, you heard that, right? So the president said it, so it's got to be true. But after that, you had like this massive purge of people, you had them taking down an entire social media platform saying, you know, they took down Parler from Amazon, took it off its servers. It got banned from the app stores. I think it's back now. But the idea was that all of this horrible stuff had been planned online on Parler. And it turned out to be primarily planned on Facebook. And nothing happened to
Starting point is 00:57:42 Facebook. Did they maybe crack down a little more? I don't know. Twitter sure did. But, you know, there's just no accountability on the left at all. It's just assumed that if they miss something, then that's just in good faith and they're trying really hard. And they so clearly come down on the on the conservative side. Conservatives need to stop cooperating in their system. The way I see it is imagine you're playing Monopoly with someone and they're the banker and they just like reach in and pull out a 500 and put it in their pile and you're like, yo, I just saw you took that money and they go, and?
Starting point is 00:58:13 Right. And then you're like, okay, whatever, I guess. Right. Dude, like imagine you're sitting around with like five people. This is how I play Monopoly with my son. He's like, mom, I'm taking money out of the bank. So imagine you've got five people and you're sitting there watching the banker
Starting point is 00:58:26 take the money and you're going, Dudes! He's taking the money out! He's cheating! And then he looks you in the eye as he hands a hundred
Starting point is 00:58:32 to the friend and his friend goes, I didn't see anything. It's just like, why are you going to keep playing this where you've got the banker
Starting point is 00:58:39 and the media together and the politicians? But here's the question. What other game is there? The conservatives allowed culture to just be thoroughly created and the politicians. Right. But here's the question. What other game is there? The conservatives allowed culture to just be thoroughly created by the left. All of the platforms, everything created by the left. And then as soon as they create one, it gets banned.
Starting point is 00:58:54 It's because when the game started, we started playing Monopoly. This leftist goes, or this Democrat, I could say. Democrat. Sure. I'll be the banker. And everyone went, sure. And the Republican was like, I don't know about that. Whatever, I guess.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And then they play a game and they cheat. And the conservative goes like, well, I'll win next time. And they cheat again. Right. Meanwhile, the conservative could have been like, hey, at least two other people playing this game are conservatives. You guys want to go play Catan or something? Right.
Starting point is 00:59:18 And just walk away and go. So now you see the Daily Wire making movies. Sure. Which I think is great. Right. Exactly. Yeah. I think that's terrific.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Stop playing their game. Stop trying to pander to these people. They're not going to let you in the club. But then what happens? But then what happens too is we have a complete polarization of media. So now we basically have like when I talk to, you know, liberals, they don't even read the same news that I read. They don't even see the same
Starting point is 00:59:39 things. When I go on to you know, I think I was saying before there was a, I saw a panel conversation on one like CNN or MSNBC or whatever it was. And it was Yumi Chelsendor, who's PBS White House correspondent and a couple of other people. And they were talking about how the GOP is the party of fear, that they're trying to make everyone terrified and they're playing culture wars games. And I'm looking at this and I'm going, your guys just told me that it was a patriotic duty to wear a mask and that I need to be terrified to send my kid back to school until literally everyone in the country is vaccinated. And you're telling me that us saying that critical race theory is not a great idea
Starting point is 01:00:20 is us being this party of fear. It's absolutely ridiculous. We don't see the same news. We don't see the same news. We don't consume the same media at all. The traditional liberals don't watch the news at all. They're getting their news secondhand. Oh, absolutely. You don't think they're reading the Times every day
Starting point is 01:00:34 and the Washington Post? Absolutely not. And that's why they're clueless about what's going on. That's why they just follow the trends. And that's why they go back to sleep the moment Biden wins. I think that they are reading the Times every day i think they are reading wapo and they're watching cnn and they're consuming all of their media this way they're watching rachel maddow
Starting point is 01:00:51 they're doing all of that stuff and that's where they're getting their you know that's where they're getting their confirmation that they're correct i think i think it's people like following alissa milano do people really follow alissa milano she's got millions of followers Did you see how she got destroyed the other day by that lady on TikTok? That was pretty sweet. Because Alyssa Milano is a hardcore, unrepentant racist. And I mean that literally. Right. I'm not pulling punches.
Starting point is 01:01:14 She also totally betrayed the whole Me Too thing. Oh, absolutely. When she was like, well, Tara Reid's probably basically a big liar. You know, it's like, okay, thanks. Like Alyssa Milano. Well done. I love how Rose McGowan is always calling her out right rose is great spectacular um you know and she's not a big fan of republicans she criticizes them as well but alyssa said a whole bunch of really really racist
Starting point is 01:01:35 things and that woman the black woman calls her out for saying like she like alyssa milano basically said that all black men are criminals like like just really hardcore racist stuff. But from with like this, this, this pandering, could you imagine like kind of voice like condescending and race at the same time? It's brutal. She also was,
Starting point is 01:01:53 wasn't she snapped wearing a crochet mask? Cause that's really going to keep the spike proteins out. So why, why, you know, it's the craziest thing to me. I know, I know celebrities,
Starting point is 01:02:01 they hit me up, actors and musicians. And they're like, Oh, I better not say anything. And I'm like, why? Why do you want to hang out with those people? That's the craziest thing to me. I don't understand that either. And there's this idea.
Starting point is 01:02:15 So what are you supposed to do if you're with people that you disagree with? Are you supposed to keep your mouth shut? Or are you supposed to just speak up? And I think that if everyone would just speak their mind, it doesn't have to be a big conflict to speak your mind. Like somebody says, I think this, and then you say, oh, I totally disagree with you. I think this, let's have another beer or whatever. Why does it have to be such a big deal to disagree with people? Because they don't read the news. They follow Alyssa Milano. But I mean this generally, not absolutely.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Obviously, some of them, many of them do watch the news. CNN's ratings are in the gutter. And it's because people don't care anymore. But when Alyssa Milano says something, I look to the people I know in Chicago, many of my friends or people I grew up with who are progressive or liberal, who could not tell me anything
Starting point is 01:03:03 about politics. Except they can tell me anything about politics except they can tell me about systemic racism what you know that trump is bad you ask them why and they can't really give you a reason well trump is bad because he's orange you know they'll say like do he lies right and i'll tell you a conversation an actual conversation i had with someone is i was like you know someone i know back in chicago trump's a liar there's no question and i'm like what did he lie about and they're like oh come on dude you know he lies and i was like, you know, someone I know back in Chicago, Trump's a liar. There's no question. And I'm like, what did he lie about? And they're like, oh, come on, dude, you know he lies. And I was like, yeah, I agree. What did he lie about?
Starting point is 01:03:31 Like, yeah. Well, the people who hated him couldn't name any policies that he had pushed forward, except for the one family separation policy, which was a terrible idea and was, I think, in place for maybe a month or two. But this is why they don't like conversation, because they don't have any answers. And they know that the moment you say, oh, that's an interesting point.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Tell me more. They go, I can't. Right. I just, Alyssa Milano tweeted it, so I just repeated it. I have no idea. And you're like, oh. No one even knows if that's true. But there's this desire to be in that club,
Starting point is 01:04:01 and it's really, really weird to me. I think those people also couldn't name any of biden's policies although it is interesting that we were talking earlier about biden's ratings which are really poor but the um they're really poor primarily among republicans and high among democrats except with regard to the border and democrats are also rather dismayed about the border situation biden has that new hardcore libertarian policy. I don't know if you guys saw, but Biden went just absolutely relative to the current position of the establishment. It's libertarian.
Starting point is 01:04:35 He said anyone who makes under $400,000 will not pay a single penny in taxes. And I went, whoa. Let's just go for it. Only tax the rich. Sounds great. I'm actually a big fan if he wants to raise a tax on people making more than 400k and it means everyone underneath literally like under 40 no one pays taxes but you go you go ahead and do that with my blessing we'll see how that we'll see how that goes out i'd like to grandfather that into
Starting point is 01:05:00 it's legally binding the president said it that's like's like Hammurabi. He undid debt for everyone. He wiped that clean for all the citizens. All the libertarians started laughing when Biden says this, I can imagine. Taxation is the stickers with Biden's face on it. So what's going to happen when all of the outlets run stories about how Biden said no one's going to pay taxes? And all the fact checkers are like, well, you didn't add enough context because he didn't mean it. You can read his mind, apparently. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I wonder how many people will not pay taxes. That whole thing. Biden said it. I'm all in. Like, let's stop. But that whole thing about like reading the politician's mind because you assume that they agree with you, that started under Obama.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Remember, Obama came out in the first place saying that he wasn't in favor of gay marriage. And then all the people I talked to were like, oh, he just has to say that so that he can get elected. Anything that they disagree with, he just has to say that so that he can get elected. It's like that the leftists during the Obama administration normalized the idea that a politician should be speaking out of both sides of their mouth and that that somehow is a good thing.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Look at Hillary Clinton. Right. You got to have your public and your private positions. Right. So you mean lie to the American people. Lie to everybody. Why would your private position be the lie? It's like, oh, now that all the cameras are off, I actually do support helping the poor.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Turn the camera on. The poor are awful. At least Michael Bloomberg was honest in that regard when he said tax the poor. Do you remember that? I don't remember that. But I do, as a New Yorker, I do think Michael Bloomberg did an awful lot for the city. Yeah, I really do.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Well, his policy in New York was tax the poor because they don't know what's good for them, so it's better to take their money away and then give them services that actually help. Well, it's like the soda tax and all that. I was not in favor of any of that stuff. I was in favor, though, of how much money he pumped into the New York City Department
Starting point is 01:06:45 of Parks and Recreation. We had a massive parks building spree under his administration all through the outer boroughs. It was like Giuliani bolstered Manhattan and Bloomberg really raised a lot of the quality of life in the outer boroughs. Don't you have an election coming up? Yeah. Isn't Yang like on top? Yang is, I think, he's doing a great job of being a goofy New Yorker. He and his wife will go out to dinner, and they'll sit in that. So restaurants are sort of mostly open, but they all have these little pods you can set in out on the sidewalk. To eat bugs in?
Starting point is 01:07:21 To eat bugs in some pods. But there were some photographs of Andrew Yang and his wife out for her birthday sitting in one of these pods. I spent a good portion of the winter going out to dinner with friends with these heat lamps. And the restaurant would give you blankets. And we'd be like, and more whiskey. That's what's necessary. In the snow, drinking outside. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:07:42 New York sounds like hell right now. People say that. I love New York. Yeah, drinking outside. It's ridiculous. New York sounds like hell right now. People say that. I love New York. Yeah, I mean, you know, New York's like. It's kind of rough. You know, what happened is, so violent crime, I think, has increased 45% 2020. That's not great. The subways are really a lot worse than they were.
Starting point is 01:08:03 That's not great. Our leadership is garbage. Our schools are, like lot worse than they were. That's not great. Our leadership is garbage. Our schools are like sort of barely open. But soon we're going to be able to sit at bars. Wow. I think that happened yesterday. So that's exciting. That's crazy to me because out here you can just do it.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Yeah, you can't just do stuff in New York. In West Virginia, if you go to a corporate store, you got to wear a mask because the big corporates mandate it. But if you go to any small business, they tell you to take the mask off. And that, I'm like, well, I mean, it's the policy of the local businesses because in these areas, they actually got rid of – I don't know about how West Virginia is handling the total mask mandate, but Maryland got rid of their outdoor mask mandates. So we're in an area where it's like Maryland, Virginia, and West Virginia. West Virginia, life is totally normal. Like no one's been affected by this.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Nobody cares. There's like some limited restrictions, you know, but the big corporate stores typically mandate it from a corporate policy perspective. Virginia pretty much does the masks and Maryland outdoors, not so much. Inside you do though. In New York City, there's mask mandates and all of that, but we have absolutely no enforcement. Earlier in the pandemic, the NYPD was called upon to enforce the no gathering rules. And I was talking to a guy at the NYPD and he was like, yeah, so the optics were of us arresting black and Latino people for having barbecues on their front stoops.
Starting point is 01:09:29 And we gave that up basically instantly. Wow. So there's just no enforcement. I don't know if you saw there was a guy who was showing up on Tucker Carlson all the time who had a bar in Staten Island. Yep. So the reason the guy in Staten Island kept getting all that enforcement is because Cuomo was able to use the state police in Staten Island. The NYPD were not enforcing at all.
Starting point is 01:09:52 They weren't enforcing closures. They aren't enforcing masks. They aren't enforcing gatherings. They're not enforcing anything. I mean, it's hard to find a cop these days. I've seen a couple more of them in the subways recently. Shootings have skyrocketed. Morale is really low.
Starting point is 01:10:07 All of that. But they're not enforcing masks. I would not want to be in one of these cities. Do you see that video of the guy at Disney World or Land or whatever and he's crying? No. Yeah, so it's like a guy with a woman and she's filming and he's just bawling his eyes out. And it's just, there really is
Starting point is 01:10:24 I don't know what's happening but the culture. And it's just, there really is, I don't know what's happening, but the culture war divide, it's not necessarily left versus right. That is a big component of it. It's how you might describe the tribes. But boy, are there really different, two different groups of people, to say the least.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Yeah. Speaking of cities also, we don't hear much about this, but in Montreal, I have a lot of coworkers in Montreal, there's a curfew of 8 p.m. Grown adults are forced back into their homes at 8 p.m. And you get ticketed if you're out, like big tickets, like $1,500 tickets.
Starting point is 01:10:57 And there's been large protests against these lockdowns, but it doesn't seem to be making any difference at all to the government there. Well, I think the issue is that I tweeted, we are watching the most dramatic de-radicalization of the left we have ever seen in history. Because they're just doing what they're supposed to do. They're just doing what they're told. Annoying notifications. Well, so many of these prominent leftists were anti-FBI, anti-CIA, anti-government, pro-freedom, pro-free speech, anti-Big Pharma, anti-Monsanto. Now, all of a sudden, a whole bunch of these leftists that I know, anarchists, you know, they were, are cheering on massive, you know, multinational corporations and the government. And also doing what they're told all the time. Like saying, you know, we're all supposed to get the vaccine because we're told to do it.
Starting point is 01:11:50 We're all supposed to wear face masks because we're told to do it. We're not supposed to see our friends. We're not supposed to do anything. It is sort of fascinating to see anti-authoritarians succumbing to this. It's a culture of fear. Like when you're cast overboard and you're drowning, it doesn't matter whose flag is painted on the lifeboat that comes up.
Starting point is 01:12:07 That's not what I'm talking about. They basically are afraid for their lives. No, no, no, no. They think their best chance. No, I'm talking about people who are gleefully gloating and cheering on the FBI
Starting point is 01:12:16 even though they're like Antifa. I have a bunch of people I know who are Antifa on Facebook. Because I was under attack by Wall Street. I have thousands of friends who are leftists on Facebook and thousands who are right.
Starting point is 01:12:27 And I see the leftist posting like, yeah, FBI. And I'm like, aren't you the guy for the Giuliani stuff? Oh yeah. And I'm like, aren't you the people who hated the FBI and thought that the warrantless spying and all this crazy stuff the government was doing was bad. And they're like, well, I mean, it's good to see justice finally. And I'm like, so you were never actually about curtailing government authority. It was just I like power when it's for me.
Starting point is 01:12:49 I think we are seeing a lot of that. Did you see that CIA, that like super woke CIA thing? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Super creepy. That was so creepy. It's a commercial for the CIA and it's a woman like, I'm a cisgender, you know. Intersectional. Intersectional woman of color with generalized anxiety disorder.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Right. And I am working for the CIA. Wow. Yeah. It was a commercial to, like, go work for the CIA. Yeah. It was about how, yeah, even if you're not a white person, you can go work for the CIA. But that wasn't really the message that came across.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Instead, it just looked like the CIA is a massively dysfunctional organization with a lot of navel-gazing and ego trips. Yeah. That sounds about right. Yeah. Maybe that is what it is. Did you ever see the CIA headquarters? It looks like the Starship Enterprise, the bridge of the Starship Enterprise.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Oh, does it? Yeah, they have it built so it's like a captain's chair in the middle. Wow. I talk about ego. Yeah, that does sound pretty. I mean, look. Hold on. Hold on a minute.
Starting point is 01:13:44 It's a legend. Ian, if I had a government budget that was like in the trillions of dollars i know you would i'm giving myself the picard chair dude it's a pretty cool chair yeah so i'd have the whole thing i have dwarf behind me the next generation next generation is your favorite yeah i've been i've been just watching it it's on the bbc every day around the right time oh it's on Netflix, all of them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And before that, I had Japanese bootlegs of the whole seven seasons. People don't like Voyager. I like Voyager.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I like, you know, Deep Space Nine is really good. I like Deep Space Nine. I think Avery Brooks is just an amazing captain. I haven't watched any of the new ones, though. No, I haven't either.
Starting point is 01:14:17 It could be the NSA that has that. I did get sucked into the original series, though, during the pandemic. That one I haven't watched all of. You know, it's great and it's super campy.
Starting point is 01:14:27 It's really a lot of fun. Yeah, like season one of The Next Generation was kind of, and they back your grow beard, right? Right. But going back to the main point, we are witnessing this massive de-radicalization, and so we're talking about the curfew in Montreal. The reason why these protests don't work is because the organized activist left that actually pressures the government typically and usually wins like in the United States, they don't care about this. They're in favor of locking down. Well, we saw that early in the pandemic. I think it was like April 21st or something like that. There was a big protest of some anti-lockdown people in Michigan and And they, you know, stormed the Capitol in Michigan.
Starting point is 01:15:06 They stormed Lansing and were denounced as horrible grandma killers and white supremacists and racists. Far right. Right? These terrible, terrible people who just wanted to go to the coffee shop and get their hair done and things. Of course, it's just evil to want to leave your house. So they were just, you know, really thrown under the bus.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Media denounced them. Everyone said they were terrible. And it was, you know, a month and a couple of days later when all of a sudden you had massive protests and those were okay. So the lockdown protests, that was a problem. Wanting to get your life back, wanting to reopen your business, that meant you were a super bad person and should probably, you know, be completely threatened and deplatformed. But then if you're protesting racism, you get a full pass.
Starting point is 01:15:55 This is why I think conservatives at this point are really dumb for continuing to support cops. We had that period. You don't think conservatives should support cops? Absolutely not. What do you think they should do instead? They should protest cops and call for their abolition. We had this. You think conservatives should call for police abolition? Yes, 100 percent. With like Ilhan Omar. Absolutely. 100 percent. I am dying to hear why. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Before the
Starting point is 01:16:18 elections and before the covid lockdowns, there's a good reason to want to have police. I mean, crime's been skyrocketing across a bunch of different cities since police have been defunded and demoralized. However, after the elections, and I've said this many times, when the voters rejected the position that cops are good and voted for those who opposed the police, well, at that point, I say, first, if you're a cop staying in this political environment where they're going to lock you up, they're going to put you in jail, well, then I'm not going to defend you when that time comes because you decided to stay in the burning building. Perhaps you said, I're going to lock you up, they're going to put you in jail. Well, then I'm not going to defend you when that time comes because you decided to stay in the burning building.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Perhaps you said, I'm going to stay in to try and save lives. Okay, I can respect that. Still, I warned you and said, get out while you still can. You know, the fire was coming. What we're seeing now with COVID, the police gleefully gave tickets to the Jewish community, harassed Jews in synagogues, padlocked gates shut so that little street children couldn't play in playgrounds. As you mentioned, they weren't enforcing in New York at that bar owner, but the state
Starting point is 01:17:15 police did come and barricade. So cops at this point, cops are cops. Many conservatives actually started smack talking police. We saw a ton of conservative commentators saying that the cops turned their back on the good, hard-working small business and started arresting and fining people and ticketing people and harassing them just because they were told to. We see the cops guarding the illegal Black Lives Matter mural in New York City.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Bill de Blasio had no authorization to appropriate funds to do that. Yeah, he did that on purpose. And 27 cops stood guard and arrested those who challenged the illegal actions of the mayor. How could you as a conservative who likely not every single person, many who don't live in the big cities, defend corrupt Democrat politicians and the police forces that are enabling them to keep doing the illegal things they're doing, like painting big Black Lives Matter murals and arresting small business owners and families and shutting down churches.
Starting point is 01:18:08 But what police do is what the executive branch tells them to do. That's their job. So the police aren't there to have their own independent opinion. Did Bill de Blasio break the law? Did Bill de Blasio break the law in putting the taxpayer dollars to paint on the ground? To paint that big Black Lives Matter mural in front of the Trump Tower just to be a jerk. Right, he did, right? Yeah, he did not have a permit to do that.
Starting point is 01:18:32 So that means that the police officers were aiding and abetting a crime, a theft of taxpayer dollars. I'm sorry. I don't care if you're a cop. You break the law, you break the law. So you think they should have gone up there and arrested Bill de Blasio. That's perhaps true. The cops at the very least should have said we will not stand guard in an illegal street mural. Right. They probably shouldn't have done that. But they also primarily have to do what they're told.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I mean, that's what they do. So I think the mayor told a cop to rob a bank and the cop did it. He should go to prison. Well, sure. Yeah. If the mayor steals public funds to paint the street and then tells the cops to guard his illicit work, the cops are breaking the law. Yeah. But I also don't think that destroying the institution of law enforcement is going to do anything to make anything better, no matter who's fighting for it. You see what just happened in Portland? Which one? There's a video Andy Ngo posted. Portland is a disaster well so so so look there's there's uh a guy i don't know who he is i don't know maybe he did something all i see is this one video and based on this one video we see antifa marching towards a guy who's backing up with a baseball
Starting point is 01:19:35 bat saying get away i'm warning you right get away i'll come back i'll f you up get away from me the cops immediately arrest him and apologize to antifa. Well, Portland is a mess too. So why are conservatives defending cops who are doing that? Are they defending cops who are doing that or are they defending the institution of police work? So what do we have right now in terms of these big cities with cops who have been shutting down churches, who have been defending the corrupt politicians and arresting anyone. Like, Portland, I understand, is a mess. Right. So, okay, how about this?
Starting point is 01:20:10 We'll get specific. Abolish the Portland Police Department. Well, the mayor, I think, is in charge of the Portland Police Department. He's the commissioner. Yeah. So probably they should get rid of that mayor and get a mayor who knows what he's doing. I think the responsibility is to the individual. The individual police officers, sure.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And they are leaving the forces in droves and they're going places where, I think Kristi Noem put out a thing saying, like, we're hiring police officers. I think there's some hiring going on in Dallas. You know, these officers who are leaving these big blue cities are finding work elsewhere. And I think it makes sense for them to do that.
Starting point is 01:20:44 But I don't think that it makes sense to completely say that, you know, law enforcement itself should be abolished. In Florida, you can own guns. Sure. In West Virginia, guns. Wyoming, guns. Texas. Interestingly, Texas has some pretty serious laws.
Starting point is 01:21:02 In New York, you can own illegal guns without any real impunity. In Chicago, you basically can't. In Maryland and New Jersey, you basically can't. You can own long guns, handguns. They just have insane restrictions. And it's the police that are going to be the ones to take away your constitutional right. Well, they're going to enforce it. They're going to enforce that law.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Unconstitutional. Yeah, if a law passes, it'd be unconstitutional for sure. So why would a cop who's sworn out the Constitution say, well, you know, my corrupt boss told me to arrest you, so you're under arrest? Are cops sworn to protect the Constitution? I thought that was the judiciary. That's the police. The police swear not the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Really? Yes, they do. That's interesting. And they don't uphold it. So I think about red states. Well, they uphold the law, right? And then if the law is challenged, they would uphold the law that was remade. There's interesting arguments, I understand.
Starting point is 01:21:52 I think we need police. But here's what I'm saying. Maybe we should say abolish blue state police. You look at the red states that have been doing a really good job with COVID, not arresting people for running their businesses, allowing things to remain open and tactfully, guarantee a lot of constitutional carry laws being passed so now i think it's like iowa or utah whatever uh texas is about to pass it as well yeah i saw that uh west virginia already has it i look at these red states and i'm like the cops they're doing a
Starting point is 01:22:17 fantastic job and they've got and there's better leadership not perfect and you look at these blue states and the cops are enforcing the most insane interpretation, defending Antifa. They're not being prosecuted. If you accidentally cross the bridge from Philly into New Jersey with a handgun, that's a felony. Yeah, then you're really in trouble. And a cop would actually lock you up for this. But don't you think that's a question of leadership? I mean, the police are there to, they basically do what they're told that's bad yeah well that's just doing my job what it is that's really really bad i'm not
Starting point is 01:22:50 saying that's good or bad i'm saying that is their function that's the same thing as the true with the you know with the military do we want a situation right and so here's the question do you want a situation where the enforcement branch of the executive arm of government is going against that executive arm of government? Do we want that branch of government to just be split in half like that? Do we want law enforcement saying, I know that you're supposed to tell me what to do, and that's your job, and my job is to do what I'm told, and we're not going to do that anymore? Do we want the army to stand up to the president and say, we're not going to do what you tell us? Yes. We want that.
Starting point is 01:23:28 We absolutely do. Yeah. If the president said do something illegal and it's actually by law, they have to say no. Isn't that where we start landing into like a military coup type of situation? I think that's a dangerous thing. Well, if the president gives an illegal order, thereby, by law, they have to say no. The police swore an oath of constitution and still are willing to uphold unlawful activities.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Yeah, I mean, I think it's a real problem to say that we want the police force to stand up on its own hind legs and, you know, start marching around the farmyard and telling the other animals what to do. I think it's a big stretch to say that versus cops should reject illegal orders. Probably they should reject illegal orders. But they don't.
Starting point is 01:24:10 So why should I support them? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I live in Brooklyn, New York, and if we don't have police officers, we're going to have an even worse situation than we have now. But didn't you already say the cops are nowhere to be seen and they're not enforcing anything? I don't see them around. They're not enforcing COVID orders. So it sounds like they're doing are nowhere to be seen and they're not enforcing anything? I don't see them around. They're not enforcing COVID orders.
Starting point is 01:24:26 So it sounds like they're doing good. I'm happy that they're not enforcing that. Well, I should say not enforcing the unconstitutional things. I guess the issue I have right now is it seems like a lot of the arguments for police are coming from urban conservatives,
Starting point is 01:24:39 which are few and far between relative to rural conservatives. Right. There's like five of us and we have dinner a couple of times. So for me, I'm kind of like, we don't have cops out here, but I'm allowed to have, you know, to an extent, weapons. Because we're actually in Maryland.
Starting point is 01:24:53 We're on the border. So in West Virginia, you can literally walk around with a Barrett, you know, M82 if you want to. It's really heavy and probably ridiculous, but you could. And I wonder why it is that in these, you know, I wouldn't call them dense, but there are communities that have, you have next door neighbors, like literally 10 feet from your house, just like any other urban community. Why is there no, won't be breaking in anybody's houses? And there's no cops. And why is it that New York City, you've got Democrats, these activists complaining about the cops, but it's
Starting point is 01:25:24 the few, it's the few it's it's the 20 of new york that's conservative defending them meanwhile also getting abused by them but i just don't see any legitimate argument the democrats in new york city who are calling for getting rid of police they don't actually mean what they're saying right like the park slope democrats don't mean uh you know get the police out of park slope they don't mean, you know, get the police out of Park Slope. They don't mean that at all. They mean... Did they say it? What?
Starting point is 01:25:47 Are they saying it? They say, like, defund police. Well, then... But that's not what they... We can't read their minds. Yeah, no, we can't read their minds. But you know what they're saying. They're saying police are racist
Starting point is 01:25:56 and get them out of the black communities. And then the police leave the black communities and crime goes up and more people get killed. But we shouldn't assume that you know when we see people in his community saying get the get the cops out of here i think we should say okay that's your community not mine yeah but that's because you live out here and i'm like i'm from the south side of chicago yeah but you live out here so i'd love to have in the south side of chicago been able to bear arms to defend myself from the gang violence instead after getting
Starting point is 01:26:24 shot at i'm like i probably shouldn't live here anymore. Well, because you can't really have a gun there. But, you know, the gang members can because, you know. Because they get them illegally. Right. And so law-abiding citizens can't do anything. This is kind of what I was saying. But the cops would arrest me if I tried to do anything about it.
Starting point is 01:26:37 In New York City, we had Giuliani who came in and really started trying to clean up the city in, what, like, 92. And I remember it very distinctly because it got a lot harder to buy drugs in Washington Square Park. We had to like go down the Lower East Side to do that. And we, you know, we made it work. We figured out a workaround. But so Giuliani really did an awful lot to clamp down on crime in the city. Manhattan got a lot safer. And it was actually pretty remarkable. And then when Bloomberg came in, he took this gift of a really safe Manhattan, and he used that to create basically a playground for the wealthy, and then bolstered the outer boroughs. So the outer boroughs
Starting point is 01:27:20 got a lot safer, too. He got slammed for this, you know, broken windows policing thing. But that was actually rather effective policy. And the entire city got drastically more safe. It's just too authoritarian for me. Well, I mean, it was pretty magical to be able to, like, walk around Manhattan at four o'clock in the morning with absolutely no fear for your safety. What, a year and two months ago? Did they have guns banned back then? I really don't know i never had
Starting point is 01:27:45 to i've i've i never looked into owning a gun in new york city until maybe like a month or so ago do you ever hear the story about the uh the black cop who started giving out tickets in central park no i could be getting the story wrong but it was basically uh black cop shows up in central park handing out tickets to couples sitting down on a picnic with wine. Public drinking is a petty offense. Here's your fine, your summons or whatever. Well, the reason he did it, I guess, was because the cops would go to the black neighborhood, start giving out tickets to people drinking 40s on their stoop. Sure. And so he said, you want to come to my neighborhood?
Starting point is 01:28:16 I'm going to go to Central Park and do the same thing. The cop got in trouble, got reprimanded. So these big cities that have been run by Democrats for generations have these problems with asymmetrical enforcement. And I think poverty is a big component of it, less so race, but I do think race plays a role. Why should I defend these cops when the Democrats are the ones complaining about them, and they're willing to enforce unconstitutional laws, and I don't live there? So sure, 20% of the people who live there are conservative and defending cops. Meanwhile, they're the ones being locked down by the cops and the cops are defending Antifa and protecting them. Or at the very least, when they do arrest them, the DAs cut them loose. Then when a conservative gets arrested, they get the book
Starting point is 01:28:56 thrown at them. The cops are willing to say, I'm being neutral by arresting the both of you. And the DA says, good job, Antifa, you're free to go. Conservative, welcome to jail. I don't know. The protest that I went to this year in Union Square and around New York City, I saw maybe like a couple of times somebody got arrested. And usually it was one of the protesters. And most of the time what I saw were cops. You know, the protesters would come up to them and say, you guys are pigs and all of this stuff. And the cops would just applaud them and say, oh, you're so brave, so courageous and so brave. Or take a knee for them.
Starting point is 01:29:28 No, they were making fun of them. Right, right. But you remember when the cops took a knee for the protesters? Yes, I do remember that. That's a brilliant thing for conservatives to support. That happened in Brooklyn. I thought that was a horror show, in fact. And I wrote in opposition to that, in fact.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Yeah. So I think conservatives are unwilling to stand up for themselves, and that's part of the problem. I think this is a very dangerous game, though. I think defunding police, no matter what side you're on, saying that we do not need law enforcement. Have you tried to buy a gun in New York City? It's like several weeks. You need an interview. You need to give them a reason why you need to buy a gun.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Sounds like you've got an authoritarianism problem. Well, that is an authoritarian problem yeah yeah i agree so but i think that it's a you know it's a dangerous i hear what you're saying about you know police not upholding their duty i think it's a very dangerous road to go down to say that we don't need police at all because they are ineffectual again it's a it Again, it's destroying something without building anything in its place. I'm not saying that. Build a framework first. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:30:29 The problem is when what's happening is that cops will, without hesitation, arrest moderates and conservatives, or even in some instances liberals, especially if they're upholding their Second Amendment rights in a city with skyrocketing gun violence and crime. I'm like, well, that's kind of a problem then because they can't keep control of the crime, but they're absolutely willing to arrest law-abiding citizens who get scared and want to buy something to defend themselves. I'll check that out. I haven't seen those cases, but I'll take a look at it.
Starting point is 01:30:56 People getting arrested for having guns? People getting arrested in New York for having illegal guns. Well, yeah, because they're all illegal well they're not all illegal like you you can't get a gun in my house if you go to the cbs near my house you can hear a lot of gunfire it's kind of jarring so so it's downstairs illegal illegal guns are what people have in places like new york because you need a qualifying reason to actually get a gun right but illegal guns are also what are shooting little babies at barbecues in the middle of Bed-Stuy. Yeah, because criminals commit crimes.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Right. The cops can't stop it, can they? Yeah. I mean, there should be, I think, better gun laws in New York. Once I looked into it, I was actually really shocked to find how difficult it would be to get any kind of weapon. So less gun laws. I think the gun laws should not be quite so strict at all. I think most conservatives don't live in big cities that are run by Democrats. And I think it's silly to support
Starting point is 01:31:51 the broken and unconstitutional systems propped up by Democrats when you don't live there. And then just, it makes no sense to me at this point. Now, before the election, I was absolutely like, yeah, these people are crazy. Defund the police is nuts. And then when the people in these cities all voted to defund their police and support Democrats, I'm like, okay. I think that's insane, too. I certainly didn't vote to defund the police. Did you see what happened in Minneapolis? That went really badly. They defunded police.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Seattle defunded police. They voted for it. They voted for it. And so the people should, look, I lived in New York for like five or six years. And there were serious problems with crime. And I lived on the street where the two cops got executed by the black nationalist. Yeah, I remember that. So I was like, I'm going to leave.
Starting point is 01:32:32 So I moved over. I jumped the river to the Jersey side. And then someone planted bombs in Manhattan and in Jersey City. And I was like, I'm going to move maybe away from these cities. They can't stop the violence and the crime. Right. But they can stop you from defending yourself as a law-abiding citizen they can stop you from getting a gun because they have really
Starting point is 01:32:49 harsh gun control laws that don't work yeah that don't actually keep illegal guns off the street and who's enforcing that oh i the police i'm sure it's the police absolutely but i don't think it makes sense to take it away without building something in its place. We can't have a situation where there's no police in New York City. That's just a horrifying idea. Already we're looking at it, right? We're looking at, so we had votes to defund the police. I think Bloomberg took a bunch of money away from police and gave it to prostitutes or something like that. I mean, something really stupid. Social workers are supposed to show up now at calls or whatever else. But I don't think that we can just destroy it and take it away if
Starting point is 01:33:30 there's nothing in its place. We've already seen so much violent crime increase. And a lot of that is because the police have been, you know, pushed aside and dropped away. I think if you talk to the police commissioner at this point, you know, he's not in favor of any of this stuff either. So sure, are the police doing a bad job? Yes. Does that mean we need to get rid of the police? No. It also doesn't mean we need to reform them in the way that the leftists are saying we need to reform them because that's not effective either.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I think we need to bring back individual responsibility. Well, sure. I totally agree with individual responsibility. I don't think it makes sense to be like, we should have more cops arresting more people so I can feel safe, even though I'm not allowed to have a gun. No, I'm not saying there should be more cops arresting more people.
Starting point is 01:34:13 Well, that's broken window policing is where they use the harshest enforcement tactics on the lowest level crime. But what they do when they, when they were doing the broken windows thing, what they were doing is they were finding illegal guns. That's how that, that's how that worked. When they were arresting, you thing, what they were doing is they were finding illegal guns. That's how that worked. When they were arresting turnstile jumpers, which I don't think you should be arresting turnstile jumpers necessarily.
Starting point is 01:34:32 What makes the guns illegal? What makes the guns illegal is that they don't have a permit to carry them. The Constitution says you can. Okay. So what do you want to do about it? You want to just get rid of police and let the cities burn? Is that what you're – like what is your proposal to replace the police? So if there's no police,
Starting point is 01:34:49 right, let's say, let's say the thing goes forward. Let's say the leftists defund all the police and the conservatives stop supporting police. And then all the police are just like, ah, this job is horrifying.
Starting point is 01:34:59 I'm going to quit and go do something else. Then what happens, right? What happens to the cities and what is supposed to take the place of the police? Are we just not supposed to have any enforcement at all? What's the point of having any laws? Once we take away the police. You still have courts.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Okay. So if there's no one to arrest anybody, then there's no reason to have a court. If there's no one to enforce the laws. How do you deal with civil suits? If there's no one to enforce a law, then why do we have any laws? Why is it that only some laws are being enforced and some aren't? And why is it that it's favorable to the left? I don't know that it is in all cases, but I don't think you're proposing a solution.
Starting point is 01:35:36 I think that you're just jumping on board saying like, you know, these guys are doing a bad job anyway, so let's just get rid of them. There's a solution. Buy a gun. So the solution for all crime is that we should all just be armed? Yes. You can defend yourself if you're armed. What if you have no hands?
Starting point is 01:35:54 How are you supposed to, what are you supposed to do then? That's not a real argument, though. But it kind of is. How is a person with no hands supposed to defend themselves, period? With their feet, I guess? Well, but the police would protect a person with no hands, ideally. Private security? So let's say you're poor, you can't afford private security,
Starting point is 01:36:10 and you don't have your hands to hold a gun. I mean, this sounds absurd. The cops are arresting people simply for having illegal guns, but the guns can't be illegal under the Constitution anyway. So it sounds like what happened is New York passed a bunch of unconstitutional laws they're using to arrest innocent people. Perhaps that's true, but they're not only arresting people for having guns. Broken windows policing resulted in the policy idea was that if you arrest people for the lowest level crimes like jaywalking, you will actually deal with higher level crimes.
Starting point is 01:36:39 So they would arrest someone for jaywalking and it's extremely disruptive to someone's life. I don't think you're getting arrested for jaywalking, first of all. I think you're getting arrested for other things, probably not. That was the idea of broken windows policing. Right. But if you have somebody, you know, if you have people committing lower level crimes. Right. So why don't we look at the data? So under Bloomberg, you had this situation. You had, you know, you had stop and frisk, which of course
Starting point is 01:37:05 was extremely racist because it was only done in black and brown communities because it was only done in the most poor communities. So you have that, and then you have the broken windows thing. How did we get to a point where New York was so safe? How did we get to a point where New York was
Starting point is 01:37:21 the safest city in the country? Authoritarianism. It wasn't just authoritarianism. There was a decrease in crime. And most people were able to live freely on all levels of society. And what was the cause of that decrease in crime? Well, that's what I'm asking. So there's a bunch of different theories on it. The most interesting, I think, is actually the removal of lead from gasoline. The removal of lead from gasoline actually correlates very closely to a decrease in crime. In like the 2010s?
Starting point is 01:37:49 I think this was like in the 70s or 80s. Okay, because I'm talking about, I mean, it was in the last, within like the last 20 years that New York basically was Disneyland. So I don't think that the lead thing is the perfect example, but pollutants in the air
Starting point is 01:38:01 was causing people to have problems. So they say. The other issue is that general prosperity in the U.S. and economic expansion reduced the amount of crime in general across the board. Sure, it did. Cell phones are one of the biggest reasons why there's less murder historically in a certain period from around the late 2000s into 2010s was because people were still trying to kill you,
Starting point is 01:38:26 but now you could call 911 the moment it happened, substantially decreasing the likelihood of death, causing murders to become attempted murders. So why is there so much more crime now that we have pulled back on police? There's a lot of reasons for it. One is probably the defunding of police, for sure. Then there's also COVID desperation anger rage people being
Starting point is 01:38:46 locked up in their homes an increase in poverty probably was a substantial component to an increase in crime so was there an increase in poverty in new york city well people didn't have jobs people a lot of people lost a lot of people lost shut down like a bunch of people left new york city entirely rich people though yeah like 400 000 rich families so poor people left or lower middle class or middle class who lost their jobs and now are reliant on these stimulus payments which weren't particularly enough. Well, they weren't really enough money, yeah. So then people become angry and desperate. Not to mention that there's no one really on the streets. So it was interesting because initially there was a decrease in crime simply because of a decrease in Because there was no one there. But then, yeah, the emptiness creates more crime.
Starting point is 01:39:24 So what should happen? So your vision for New York City is that there was no one there. Right. But then, yeah, the emptiness. Less of an opportunity. The emptiness creates more crime. That's true. So I think. So what should happen? So your vision for New York City is that there's no police at all and just everyone's walking around with a gun? Well, before the election, I would have said having a police department for sure. But I think the problem now is you have a bunch of gluttonous city dwellers who are just accepting of the big hand of government to do everything for them. Instead of taking responsibility for the fact that you have problems in your city, people say, just let the government do it. You know, just let the police do it, even when the police will uphold unconstitutional laws.
Starting point is 01:39:54 But most importantly, this stems from watching the police oppress people going to church, people going to synagogue. Well, yeah, all of that stuff was completely wrong. But I don't think, I still just don't think that taking away. I won't accept authoritarianism for the sake of feeling safe. Sorry. I don't think taking away law enforcement is actually going to create a safer city. Those who would give up freedom in exchange for security deserve neither and will lose both.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Yeah, but in a city where you have so many people living close to each other. I'm pretty sure Ben Franklin lived in a city. Yeah, but Philadelphia in 1776 was nothing like new york city in 2021 i don't think that's that's a justification for disregarding the constitution no perhaps not but i also don't think that entirely police are i don't know what all these cases are i mean are you talking just specifically about guns because i'm talking about first and foremost they they shut down churches in violation of the First Amendment. And that went to the Supreme Court and it was overturned. And then Cuomo immediately said, don't care, I'll do another one and did it again.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Right. But it was overturned in the Supreme Court. Except Cuomo ignored it and just signed another executive order. And de Blasio did it again. But the churches are open in New York City. Eventually, sure. But not immediately. No. Well, the diocese had to decide and the communities had to decide for themselves that they were going to do it themselves. While the churches were shut
Starting point is 01:41:12 down, the city allowed Black Lives Matter to protest without masks. Yes. And that was insanity. And but that's not a reason to take away law enforcement when they're the ones enforcing a corrupt political system and absolving themselves of responsibility, I actually think it is. I think in a lot of cases you had the churches themselves staying closed after the order, which I don't think was reasonable either. The cops spying on children at Jewish schools. The video where the cop goes into a Jewish man's eatery that was closed simply because he propped the door open for air? I don't think that's okay either. But what I don't think you're providing is any kind of reasonable solution to it.
Starting point is 01:41:53 I am, yeah. It's called personal responsibility. You're saying that everyone should just be walking around with a gun. Absolutely, yes. In New York City. Yep. Wow, I think that's not a great idea. You're responsible for what comes out of that gun.
Starting point is 01:42:03 You're responsible for your own safety. Stop enforcing unconstitutional edict enforcement simply because you don't want to be responsible for yourself. I don't think that walking around with a gun is necessarily the way that everyone would choose to be responsible for themselves. And I think there are a lot of people where walking around with a gun is not a responsible move at all. If you were in New York City and a guy came up to you with a gun, is a cop going to jump out from the woodwork and save you no so what do you do i don't know probably get shot so it doesn't sound like you have a real solution for you know to deal with crime but like if i was walking around with a gun and someone popped out and had a gun i would probably still get shot actually in so so why is it not always going to work for everybody so why why is it in west virginia you can have these big communities and there's no police department, but people aren't breaking into every single building and
Starting point is 01:42:47 getting mugged in the street. People aren't breaking into every single building, getting mugged in the street all the time. Crime is skyrocketing in New York City. Violent crime. Violent crime. Yeah. Why is it? I'm not sure why it is exactly. So I think I mean, I think we had police pull back an awful lot. I think that was bad. I think we had, you know, the COVID restrictions were pretty bad as well. But I don't, you know, I just am not seeing your solution as very viable. I think it's not so much of a solution being viable. It's how much do you reject the Constitution on the principles of modernity? I think we have to fight them in ways that are not necessarily like from our hip. We have systems in place. We have a government
Starting point is 01:43:28 system in place for a reason. And I think that it can be pretty effective. We have to elect better leaders for sure. That's a problem. I think this is why conservatives get crushed repeatedly. Why? Because we're not willing to just walk around with guns and shoot everybody? Well, because they're deferential to the left in every respect. I don't think this is deference. Absolutely. I think it's deference to the social order and i think it's deference to you know the three branches of government and the checks and balances on those the cops have been maligned and the ones who stay on the job are dropping to their knees and groveling the people in the city have been disarmed and the ones who are refusing to defend themselves
Starting point is 01:44:01 are dropping to their knees and groveling the mayor illegally appropriated tax funds to paint a political message in front of a building and the police defended it. And the people of the city who stay there are dropping to their knees and groveling. I don't think that's true in most of the cases. It's just apathy. It's a disregard for what this country was built upon, the founding principles, what it means to be responsible for yourself. It is saying, I understand the Democrats passed unconstitutional laws.
Starting point is 01:44:24 The cops should enforce it anyway because I'm not responsible so what do you think of the whole fourth turning concept do you think that's where we are do you think we're in that last that last area where it's just like everybody's completely weak and ineffectual and then we're going to have something really bad happen to create more stronger like strong people who then take charge i mean what are what are we? Like, we have like a pretty stark disagreement here with regard to the social order. I mean, you seem to think it's in a much worse place than I do, which honestly, like, you know, perhaps I'm a little optimistic. That's something that's something that nobody would have ever accused me of ever in my life
Starting point is 01:45:00 previously. Did you watch the Chauvin trial? No, I did not watch the Chauvin trial. I watched the Chauvin trial, and I heard the prosecution's own witness argue that Chauvin used a lesser force option. We're now hearing reports, I haven't verified these, that one of the jurors was previously a public Black Lives Matter activist.
Starting point is 01:45:20 The judicial system is corrupted by spineless and feckless judges and court officers who don't want to face any repercussions. Some of the jurors, the one juror who came out and said she was an alternate, that I was scared. I didn't want to go through the rights of destruction again. Yeah, I read about that as well. These are people who are willing to give up all of their freedoms in exchange for security. What we are watching is that justice is being crushed. Kyle Rittenhouse will likely get life in prison
Starting point is 01:45:47 for defending himself. You can watch a 78-year-old man get bashed in the back of the head by Antifa, but heaven forbid you actually want to defend your community. And then what happens
Starting point is 01:45:55 is conservatives still keep coming out and groveling before the left. I don't think they're groveling before the left. I don't think that's what's going on. I think they're supporting, you know, a democratic system of government, which is worth supporting.
Starting point is 01:46:07 So you're playing a game that's the other side is cheating over and over again, threatening to flip the board and hit everybody. And the conservatives keep going, OK, OK. And I don't mean all conservatives. Right. I mean, especially mean the Republican Party and the people, the conservatives who remain in these cities who are defending a broken system. Yes. Rural conservatives. So what is it? So what's supposed to happen? And the people, the conservatives who remain in these cities who are defending a broken system, yes. Rural conservatives seem to be. So what's supposed to happen?
Starting point is 01:46:31 Are we just supposed to say, like, okay, the social order is completely destroyed. Let's just blow it up and then see what happens? I think you have an apocalyptic view of what happens when people take responsibility for themselves. I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think I do. I think people taking responsibility for themselves and completely destroying and dismantling the government structure are two completely different things. Who said destroy the government structure? You're saying take away law enforcement. If we take away law enforcement, there's no point in having any laws.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Well, the people voted for it. What people? Like people in these urban metros keep voting for the politicians calling for defunding or abolishing police. Kamala Harris literally fundraised for the rioters. Yes, I know. Then they lie about it happening. And then conservatives are like, we'll let him keep doing it.
Starting point is 01:47:10 So 75 million people did not vote for this administration. Yeah, but those people don't live in cities, mostly. Well, some of them do. Some of them, sure. Right. But 75 million people did not vote for this administration. The administration won anyway. It's running roughshod over them anyway.
Starting point is 01:47:26 And you have the corporations and the social media giants taking their voices away anyway and crushing them anyway. So you're just saying, like, everyone should, what, move to the middle of nowhere and carry a gun around? I mean, you can get out of the cities is a good start. A lot of conservatives have been repeatedly saying. But why should we have to, you know, change our lifestyle fully? What if we like living in cities? What if we like,
Starting point is 01:47:49 you know, having... It's a leftist view. It's not necessarily... Make the world change for you instead of recognizing... No, it's not. It's, you know,
Starting point is 01:47:54 we built these beautiful palaces, these beautiful cities so that we could live in them, so that we could go to the theater whenever we wanted, so we could go to museums, so that we could meet up in parks and see our friends and do all kinds of things.
Starting point is 01:48:06 And there's nothing wrong with a city lifestyle. You know, we don't all want to grow gardens and have chickens and things. We don't all want to do that. We don't all want to carry guns around either. And there's nothing wrong with that. And why take away someone else's right to do those things, even in a city, which they do? You can't have chickens in many of these cities.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Listen, I totally disagree with the gun laws in New York City. What about chicken laws? You can't have chickens. Too harsh. And there are people who have chickens in Brooklyn. And gardens and whatever else. Many urban metros ban livestock. Okay. Why? Well, so vote against it. Move to a city and go vote against it if you don't like it. Well, so that's what I said before the election. I was very much in favor of supporting the police. Once we realized that after all the riots and all the small businesses being harassed and churches being shut down, people voted for this.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Now the responsible thing to do is to recognize you've lost that argument. And if you want to live in a city where you have no rights, by all means, you're free to do so. But it's clear that New York is supporting unconstitutional laws. The police allow Black Lives Matter to march without masks on repeatedly over and over and over again
Starting point is 01:49:09 in many major urban metros. And then when a conservative comes out in... The police aren't enforcing masks in New York City anyway. No, but they're shutting churches down and making sure small businesses can't serve drinks. They're not doing that anymore.
Starting point is 01:49:20 They were doing that. And I disagree with all of that throughout. And I spoke and wrote against all of that. And when it happens to you again, like, am I supposed to be like, oh, no, the poor conservatives getting arrested again? No, I mean, you can do whatever you want out here and people can do what they want in their cities. Now, I'll clarify.
Starting point is 01:49:35 There's like urban conservatives who are remaining and watching all this happen. And I'm hearing more and more from most conservatives who agree. The city's voting to get rid of the police. Let them have it. If you want to stay and live in that, then that's your choice. Well, I guess we'll see what happens. more and more from most conservatives who agree the city's vote to get rid of the police let them have it if you want to stay and live in that then that's your choice well i guess we'll see what happens we gotta do super chats okay and see what the users have to think because we definitely went long so if you haven't already go to timcast.com become a member smash that like button and now we're going to read super chats because uh i took two we i went way too long. All right. Jordan Jones says,
Starting point is 01:50:05 Your first beer in May is on me, Ian. There you go, buddy. John Lee says, Hey, Tim, you sound sick today in your videos. Your voice was cracking and stuff, so I hope you feel better if you are sick. Also, any update on Chicken City? It is operating.
Starting point is 01:50:19 We do need to get a chicken whisperer out here and get the camera set up. And it's not that I'm sick. It's just allergies are brutal, man. Eat a big scoop of coconut oil. Coconut what is that gonna do you feel good oil up your throat all right let's see flimsy fox says hi tim i want to say thank you for all you do your informative videos kept me from voting for a particular presidential candidate i would have regretted i think we all know which one i think many of the leftists also regret that decision as well and the neolib uh democrat voter types have kind of just stopped
Starting point is 01:50:48 paying attention the median says i didn't realize how narcissistic leftists are till one killed my dnd group worst they claimed i was not tolerant of their beliefs as they blew up when i mentioned facts and asked questions wish me luck in finding a new D&D group. Good luck. Good luck. We're going to start doing D&D. Roll initiative. Nice.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Lucas Parada says, Watched Mortal Kombat. Cole Young is from the south side of Chicago. His wife's name is Allison and obviously Asian. Are the writers Timcast fanboys? Yes, they are. Mortal Kombat is this generation's Citizen Kane. Fight me.
Starting point is 01:51:22 That's a joke. I don't mean it, YouTube. Calm down. Mav says, According to the New Yorker, Senator Harry Reid was blocked from accessing UFO debris held by Lockheed Martin, a senator blocked by the Pentagon
Starting point is 01:51:35 from accessing UFO debris. When are people going to wake up to this story? You know, I think a lot of this stuff is, maybe they're just trying to make you think there's something out there because it's like a psyop for like foreign war or something, you know. Make the enemy think we have access to technologies. They don't.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Freak them out. Also, didn't someone say it was birds? Yeah, I think like a lot of these UFOs were actually just birds. Interesting. Just blurry birds and IR cameras. Wow. Blurry birds. I love that Daft Punk song about it.
Starting point is 01:52:04 What is it? When he's like, I don't know, there's something out there. It's moving in a earthbound direction. Murmuration? Have you ever seen when all the birds fly in one giant bird? Yeah, that's cool when that happens. Oh, really? You don't say, says,
Starting point is 01:52:19 did you see you showed up in the Project Veritas oligarchy music video? Yes, I did. Yeah, did you see the music video? I didn't. I had to go watch it. I didn't see you. up in the Project Veritas oligarchy music video? Yes, I did. Yeah, did you see the music video? I didn't. I had to go watch it. I didn't see you. I saw your name.
Starting point is 01:52:29 Yeah. There's like a little TV pops up, and it's from the show, and I'm like, you know, the New York Times is tripping over themselves. Like, yeah, it was funny. It was great. Yeah, James got moves. Nice. It's like an 80s music video. It's got the sledgehammer.
Starting point is 01:52:43 So good. All right. Oddball Gaming says, Hey, Tim. This is why the tornado that went over you fired up again in Fredericks, Maryland. Even Illinois had a tornado spotted traveling east. Target areas tonight in Arkansas, Missouri, and a couple Dixie Alley states. Did that happen all over?
Starting point is 01:53:00 A lot of storms? Interesting. Yeah, it moved right over us. Man, the weather is so nice. It was headed straight to us in a wind. Yeah, the ridge. It was actually kind of cool. With. Yeah, it moved right over us. Man, the weather is so nice. It was headed straight to us and it went whoop. Yeah, the ridge. It was actually kind of cool with all the leaves blowing over. I love this weather.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Zeknyx says defunding the police will lead to the expulsion of local law enforcement, creating a power vacuum for some sort of federal police to come in to save the day. This is the goal of defund the police. I hear this a lot and it doesn't make any sense that's what happened in camden though then the state he's came in the state police came in yeah but they're saying federal federalization of the police right like in new york the state police came in when the local cops wouldn't right in staten island they had jurisdiction yeah did you know that staten island once seceded or i'm sorry voted to secede from new york oh they should have
Starting point is 01:53:43 done it well i guess the state said no. I don't know. I saw it on Reddit. I don't know if it's true or not. If it's on Reddit, it must be true, I guess. I want to look that up now. Aiden says,
Starting point is 01:53:55 Hey, Tim, high schooler from the last GOP collar county in Chicago here. I have been interning with local campaigns. My psych teacher started preaching critical race theory and told us to read
Starting point is 01:54:04 D'Angelo and Kendi. How am I meant to fight this? You know what I would do? I would go back and I would ask why I was told to read a book from a self-avowed racist. That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Robin D'Angelo's self-avowed racist. And then they'll ask for proof and then show them proof. There's a lot of proof in the book. Because they probably didn't read it. But she says she's racist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:27 She says she can't be cured of racism. It's just a way to keep people oppressed in their own mindset and incapable of taking personal responsibility. You know what I would do is I would read the books and then I would read books that are contrary to it. And I would write a thesis about why the books were wrong. That's what I would read the books and then I would read books that are contrary to it. And I would, I would write a thesis about why the books were wrong. That's what I would do. I would read Alinsky's rules for radicals and then apply the principles in this setting. So make this teacher live up to their own rules.
Starting point is 01:54:55 I assume your teacher is white, in which case you should say after reading the book, I realized you're oppressing us. And I want to know how you're going to make it up to the class because D'Angelo says she's a racist. You're, you know, you're this teacher is assuming is white. Maybe they're not. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:55:11 Maybe I shouldn't assume that. Sort of doesn't matter what color they are. It's still oppressive to make people read about how they're racist. I just assume they're white because most of these people are like the critical race theorists tend to be like progressive white suburbanites. Yeah. So virtue signaling. Yeah, use Alencia's rules for radicals.
Starting point is 01:55:28 All right. Rob Lowe, Rob's Lowe's, says, Side note, I watched your recent cast Castle and I sent you an email. I thought it would be a great episode if you are interested in making a range on the property if legally allowed. I do know how to operate heavy equipment. Not here in Maryland, but we do have a property in West Virginia we're going to be filming at at some point. So, West Virginia is freedom.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Eli M. says, Tim, today Crowder mentioned your West Virginia skate park. Will you invite him on your show? Crowder? Crowder is always invited to come on the show. It's just that he runs his own show, so when would he come? We've talked. It's just I've been on his show
Starting point is 01:56:05 we do everything in person here i don't make exceptions you know like we've had a lot of really awesome guests be like can we do skype and i'm like no no the reality is we just we don't have any monitors set up for anybody so like when when you guys watching are seeing the news article no one else can see any of that and i'm just i And I'm just, I don't like the dynamic of compromising and then doing a digital, like, over-the-phone kind of show. I don't want to do that. Yeah, he should come out with his wife, come out for the weekend or something.
Starting point is 01:56:32 I totally respect the in-studio aspect. Yeah, because... I like that. I hate doing Skype stuff. It's really, I always look the wrong place also. They'll eventually build monitors with cameras in them. They may already have them, but we'll be able to make eye contact
Starting point is 01:56:46 with each other. Or the eyes are... That would be weird. Yeah. I just... That would be weird and fake. Yeah. That's going to change society big time.
Starting point is 01:56:55 Jay Liebgott says, I would love to see a conversation between you and Lex Friedman. The juxtaposition of your energies would make for interesting content. I almost went on his show. We briefly talked. He was in the area, but we weren't able to make it work. That would be cool, though. He's a smart fella. of your energies would make for an interesting content i almost went on his show we briefly talked uh he was in the area but we weren't able to make it work that'd be cool though
Starting point is 01:57:08 he's a smart fella all right here we go dragon lady says yep giving 50 bucks just a high five libby for being a fellow star trek fan tim too but i already knew he was there you go hey making me money for being a fan. Hey, how about that? Balthazar says, how cost effective could a lightning capture device be for the power grid? Right now, the problem is we don't know the, I'm not an electrician,
Starting point is 01:57:36 but it's like we don't know the voltage or the amperage or whatever of a lightning strike. So you can't accurately predict how to contain it. I read about this once. I was like, why don't we just harness electricity and store it somewhere? When you guys were talking about solar and wind, I kept thinking about lightning and geothermal, like volcanic heat. Unless you're Dr. Brown, right?
Starting point is 01:57:53 Emmett Brown? Yeah. Yeah, he's into it. Lightning is too random. We'd have to capture it while it's in orbit, maybe, before it gets hot. Yeah, if we could just collect the static charge. The other issue is that charges aren't burst charges. Like, what do we have that can take a lightning bolt and just store that energy?
Starting point is 01:58:07 I know. We're not like... I don't know yet. I don't know if graphene can handle the heat. There must be metamaterials that can handle the heat. Maybe. That could absorb like a superconductor that could hit once and then be fully charged. That would be really interesting.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Man, it's just so much electricity. Yeah. It's a wild amount. Shaker Silver says, Even if the GOP wins 2020, who's in control? Traditionalists and populists that actually oppose to the leftists and neolibs or the soft liberals and neocons that just roll over. What even is a conservative? I mean, conservatives today are Democrats 15 years ago, basically.
Starting point is 01:58:39 That's how I ended up over here was a free speech thing. Really? Oh, wow. Yeah, I look at,? Oh, wow. Yeah. I look at, you know, a conservative today, a conservative from 2000. If that person came here today, they'd be banned from every platform instantly. Instantly. And they'd be headline media matters.
Starting point is 01:58:58 But so would a Democrat. From 2000? I think so. From 2000? I don't know if they'd be insta banned maybe not insta they'd be called alt-right and insulted certainly they'd certainly would be on the wrong side of things right yeah oh definitely i mean and anyone from the 90s is just screwed yeah definitely brandon mcgregor says don't know if it would happen even after covid but linus from linus
Starting point is 01:59:24 tech tips occasionally touches on politics. I think you could have a nuanced conversation on certain current social and economic issues. Perhaps, but a lot of people who run shows, you know, like that, they don't want to get into the weeds and get accused of things, you know. So I've tried talking to a lot of people who are like pro skaters, musicians, like you're really influential. Wouldn't you want to come on and we'll just talk about this? Like you don't got to come on and put on a MAGA hat or anything. Just like how's it going? What's going on with skateboarding?
Starting point is 01:59:52 How are you feeling? What do you feel about cancel culture? And then express your opinions. And they're like, oh, dude, I don't know, man. Like I'll get fired and all my contracts and oh, man. I can understand some of it. Like if you're hired by an energy drink company, they don't want you posting videos about politics. They want you posting videos where you're like,
Starting point is 02:00:09 gnarly, I'm going to do a backflip, you know, and it's fun and energizes the kids. And also, as we move forward, don't forget to smash that like button. It really helps us out. Person says, America is not getting more racist. The Democrats are, period. Note, YouTube blocked this comment until I split Democrats.
Starting point is 02:00:26 Really? That's weird. That is weird. Yeah, they're using the media to project that image, too. I don't even think they're more racist than they used to be. It's just loud in your face. I think they're more racist than they used to be. Really?
Starting point is 02:00:37 Yeah, by a lot. Bridget F. says, Ian is God. ETH to the moon. Add a zip line, Tim. We want to add a zip line. And we are all fingers of God. Should we build a zip line? moon. Add a zip line, Tim. We want to add a zip line. And we are all fingers of God. Should we build a zip line? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Over pool. Paxton. Paxton Harrell says, you're wrong on PV being for the rich. I've actually started a company in Utah, and we've been running for over a year now selling solar significantly cheaper because we don't rely on the tax credits. Interesting. That is interesting. I wonder how that works with the tax credits.
Starting point is 02:01:05 How can it be cheaper without the tax credits? I have no idea. Maybe there's requirements for what you have to, like regulations to reach the tax credits so you can actually make a cheaper product. Yeah, that's really interesting. I guess, yeah. I wonder what is required to get the tax credit.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Yeah. And if they're doing something different, what is that? Do tell. I'm very curious. More information, please. Yeah, I definitely want more information. All right.
Starting point is 02:01:31 Dylan Keller says, Hello. Do you remember the episode of Superman, the animated series when Superman defeats Darkseid and the people, now free, rush to Darkseid crying,
Starting point is 02:01:40 let me help you, Master. Neolibs reminded me of it. I'm not familiar interesting veronica lavigna says montreal was 8 p.m curfew but across a short bridge in a suburb it's 9 30 p.m but now it's all 9 30 p.m no seating in restaurants yet weird oh yeah maybe it was 9 30 this week john hutto says baby Babylon 5 is better than DS9. Some of the best writing in all sci-fi, in my honest opinion. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:02:08 People keep saying that. I have tried to watch Bab 5 like a half dozen times. Not into it? I just haven't. It seems like it's almost too soap opera-y. What about Battlestar, the new one? I love Battlestar. It's so good.
Starting point is 02:02:23 A new new one? Is there a new? No, no, no. Just like from 15 years ago. That was great. Man, Battlestar, dude. Incredible. And the crazy creepy ending.
Starting point is 02:02:34 Dude, that show was crazy. It's like, we found a compatible species. Okay. Joshua Carpenter says, when we say come and take it, understand it's an oath, it's oath-breaking thugs in blue who will be coming to take it for money i was just doing my job did not work uh did
Starting point is 02:02:51 not work at nuremberg someone has to take it oh this is funny michael adkin says bring brandon tatum on your show to your show that's a good idea all right uh we'll go back in time and we'll do that because we did. He was cool. Raleigh A. Murray says, The defense, I was just doing what I was ordered to do, did not work well in the Nuremberg trial. I thought it did work well in the Nuremberg trial. Didn't they let off a bunch of Nazis because they weren't the ones that made the call, and they just kind of cut the head off?
Starting point is 02:03:19 No, they arrested a bunch of them for following orders. But then they released almost everybody, except for a few key Nazis. A lot of the soldiers who were just... Right. But a lot of people were like, I was for following orders but then they released it almost everybody except for like a few a lot of the soldiers who are just right but a lot of people like i was just following orders they got like they we have like a story just recently about a nazi guy who's like 90 or something they deported him back to germany they did yeah that's interesting when you look at like blm right because you've had like patrice colors talk about how BLM is a leaderless movement, which kind of makes you think it's just a hydro. When you cut off one head, another one just springs forth in its place. It's a chaotic destructive force that I think arises
Starting point is 02:03:55 when there's a power vacuum. Yeah. And I think what we've seen in America is that everybody basically became kind of just complacent. It's easier just to lay back and say, do whatever you want. Just leave me alone. Yeah. And then. Well, that's sort of what everybody wants. Everyone just wants to be left alone to live their life freely. You know, but we lost personal responsibility.
Starting point is 02:04:17 People didn't want to stand up. I mean. I think that was a problem at the beginning of this pandemic. That's just become exacerbated. That's a big problem. The truth is even during the revolution, the revolution era, a lot of people, like a large chunk, said, I don't want to be involved at all. Leave me alone. I think that's most people all the time.
Starting point is 02:04:36 And I also think that that is some personal responsibility, like saying that you want to live a reasonable and quiet life. That should be perfectly acceptable. You've got to earn that, though. That comes at the cost of life and death. People kill and protect our borders so that we can live in calm silence. To think that you're owed that is... No, I don't think that you're owed it. I'm saying people want it, and there's nothing wrong with wanting it.
Starting point is 02:04:59 Life is a treadmill. If you stand still, you move backwards. If you walk, you stay in the same place. You have to run to get moving forward. So there are a lot of people who have been made complacent by the people guarding our borders and by the massive
Starting point is 02:05:13 technological superiority and air superiority, for the most part, that gives the U.S. its dominance. And now because of that, I think a lot of people, you know, a power vacuum has emerged in politics where people are just saying, I abstain. I don't want to be involved. And you end up with people rioting.
Starting point is 02:05:29 And then even to this day, people are still saying, I abstain. It's like they burned down a bunch of buildings and you're still abstaining from the vote? Okay, man, well, I'm going to leave the city because I don't want to be involved in that anymore. We tried the argument. We tried arguing with people. We tried showing them. We tried being, you know, reasonable and rational and saying look at this video man this is crazy right and they still said i don't care and i'm like bro the fire is making it way to our house yeah i said i'm not gonna do
Starting point is 02:05:54 it it's okay that was there was an interesting thing in the summer with um there was a protest in seattle and this was actually i found to be the most chilling of all the protests so there was this protest and it was in the evening it was at night it was dark and it was a bunch of kids teenagers 18 maybe walking through a residential street and they had a call and response and uh it was I'm fighting for you I'm fighting for you I'm fighting for you Micha I'm fighting for you. Michaela, we see you. And they saw a girl in the window. Come out and march with us. March with us. We see you.
Starting point is 02:06:29 And I found that to be actually the most chilling. A bunch of children walking down the street saying that they're fighting for me and demanding that people come out of their house. Come play with us. Yes. Forever and ever. It was very much like that. Creepy. It was the evil twins.
Starting point is 02:06:44 Yeah. That was, I thought, terrifying. But people still, after all of this, said, please, just... Like, when they voted for Biden and Kamala after all the riots, they were on their knees begging, please burn more buildings down. It was sort of a hostage situation. That was the deal, was that we could have our lives back. I think that Dark side comment was was better
Starting point is 02:07:06 like you know dark side's the villain and when he's defeated they all run say oh no please please don't hurt master so these people are suffering from stockholm syndrome yeah i think that's definitely true with the democratic party yeah i think that's definitely true all right shooting on a shot of pressure bad calf care says when Sure did not have a shot at a pressure. Betacafcare says, when you say you have a good library on TimCast, you need to say it in the Trump voice.
Starting point is 02:07:29 The radical left doesn't want you watching the TimCast.com library. It's the best in the country. That's pretty good. That was okay. Caliber Neutral says, the chief of police
Starting point is 02:07:42 needs to be an elected official just like sheriffs in the county. Yeah, maybe. That's interesting. But then you still but then the Democrats are going to vote for Democrats. You're going to you're going to get some far left Democrat. Oh, man, I love it when the when the super just jump and then it I'm like, where am I? All right, let's see how many people are mad at me over my my stance on police lots of people
Starting point is 02:08:08 all right andrew matina says she kicked your butt tim yeah well there you go all right let's see gareth green says tim law enforcement is a valid function of government and necessary for freedom you are being defeatist no i'm i'm i'm saying right now is people got to have responsibility you can't just sit there and be like cops should just be responsible for for my safety not me and they should pass laws taking away my ability to defend myself if i so choose people don't want to have guns they don't have to have guns if i want to have guns i should be allowed constitution says keep and bear what do you think happens if there's a if there's a uh a case brought against some of these more restrictive
Starting point is 02:08:45 gun control laws there is have there been right now the supreme court has granted cert to a suit in new york you need a reason to get a gun right they're challenging that so that's cool in or could be bad in october i think october 4th it could always be bad that's always the option so people like, it's six to three. It's conservative. They're going to win. It's like, oh, come on. Like, it's not, no.
Starting point is 02:09:11 It's five to four at best. But the argument is keeping bare arms means keep them, like, in your home. And bear them if you like. And bear them, meaning, like, you're holding them. You get to. But we'll see. They could say no. They could say if keeping and bearing arms was for a well-regulated militia,
Starting point is 02:09:30 that doesn't mean you walk around with guns. It means you have the guns ready to go in your home and you can keep and use. However, the bear, in my opinion, there's no argument that makes sense where it's like you can bear arms in your house and nowhere else. Then they wouldn't even add it to the Constitution at all. Yeah, it's so interesting. They arms in your house and nowhere else. Then they wouldn't even add it to the Constitution at all. Yeah, it's so interesting. They walked around with their guns on purpose. If you're supposed to be in a militia and it's supposed to be well-functioning and you can't carry your weapons around and then you're out like in the field and then all of a sudden like war breaks out.
Starting point is 02:09:58 They're like, quick, come. You're like, hold on. I have to go to my storage to get my gun. And then I have to go to my other storage to get my ammo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I have to put to my other storage to get my ammo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then I have to put it together separately because that was the law. That's right. Sonny James says,
Starting point is 02:10:12 I think Americans are so rabid about their guns because the government has broken every cultural contract they've had with citizens. They're seizing assets willy-nilly, selectively punish policing. No transparency in federal shootings of black men. Boosted said, there was a documentary on prisons and crime where several inmates openly admitted they are much more afraid of a private person with a gun
Starting point is 02:10:37 than the police. An armed society is a polite society. There was something I read about. I don't know the full details, but this was back when I briefly took a criminal justice course when I was like 18 for like two months. There was some jurisdiction in, I think, like Wisconsin, maybe I'm not sure, that passed hardcore gun control and then crime went up like 85 percent. And they immediately panicked and then like rescinded the law and then crime went right back down. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:11:02 So like the issue is in Chicago, they know you're not armed. In West Virginia, if you even get anywhere near the wrong house, they'll come out with a gun being like two more steps in the wrong direction and you're not going to be alive anymore. And in St. Louis, if you come out with a gun, you're going to get arrested.
Starting point is 02:11:18 That's right. Even when they were on their own property and everything. Yeah. PC Pierce says, Tim, you went 30 plus years being left in pro-gun control. In one year, people who didn't think like you
Starting point is 02:11:32 should have their cities burn. Give people time. I guess pro-gun control is probably fair, but I was not anywhere near where the Democrats were. I was actually fairly pro-gun, but my arguments were like, well, there's probably some reforms we could do and some of these things might make sense. And then someone commented on
Starting point is 02:11:50 YouTube videos saying, I completely agree. I also think that we should have some restrictions on your ability to speak because I find your videos offensive. And I was like, okay, I get it. And so now it's like- That's exactly where I landed on gun control. That's like how I got here. Well, if you want to change the Constitution, change the Constitution. If you don't, then New York shouldn't be enforcing illegal gun laws. I agree with that. Well, they shouldn't have these kind of gun control laws, I think. It should be easier to buy a gun.
Starting point is 02:12:19 Let's see. Godzilla2k26 says, Tim is completely right tonight. Thank you. I had to read that one because the person said that you kicked my butt. So I'm just going to read one that makes me sound a little good. Go for it. We'll be fair. We'll bounce.
Starting point is 02:12:30 And a lot of people saying an armed society is a polite society. SpidgeBandersnatch says, Tim, you're removing options for nonviolent solutions. Not every vandal or thief should be shot. We need pros to protect rights. Make it an honorable profession again. I don't want people to get shot. However, I do believe that, for the most part, an armed society is a polite society. That if someone knows there's consequences to approaching you and threatening your life, they might not do it. I make the same argument for why keeping and bearing arms, Second Amendment,
Starting point is 02:13:03 keeps us safe from government tyranny. Not because, as the left likes to argue, conservatives are going to go march in the streets and challenge tyrannical government, although some probably want to. It's because the police and the feds know that if they kick your door in, you have a legal right to defend yourself in your home. And just like Breonna Taylor's boyfriend who shot that cop in the leg, the charges were dropped. So the government knows we can't just kick doors in. You better get a warrant and do it right because the dude in there might be armed.
Starting point is 02:13:32 Look what happens in these other countries. I mean, there's one video right now from the UK, I think. Maybe it's from Ireland. They go into a guy's house and they tell him that they're going to be arresting him on like a medical charge and he can't do anything about it. So they're like, oh, yeah, we're withholding you because we're afraid you're going to hurt yourself. They could theoretically do the same thing here. There's a scary story, though.
Starting point is 02:13:53 There was a guy, an older guy, they were serving a red flag. That's like those, yeah, those red flag laws. Well, so the cops went to his house. The guy answered the door with his gun. They said, we're here to take your guns under red flag laws. And he says, you know, from my cold, dead hands. So they fought him. He got shot and killed.
Starting point is 02:14:08 He got shot and killed. Yep. I thought it was sort of crazy in Columbus. I think it was Columbus, Ohio. Just maybe it was last week. There was they passed a law saying that police could not use less lethal force at protests, at nonviolent protests. And I thought, but can't they still use their guns?
Starting point is 02:14:28 Like, what are you doing? So they can no longer use less lethal force than they're supposed to? That's correct. So what are they supposed to do if the protest turns into a riot? Then what? Yep, it's crazy. And they're not even supposed to have it on them? Like, what is the deal?
Starting point is 02:14:43 Well, you could buy rubber rubber buckshot you know so it's good for scaring away animals i guess if you've got you know i don't know depends on what everyone's got different opinions on when you should or shouldn't use them i've been told by people never to use them because if you point a gun at somebody who's a threat to you you don't want to give them a chance to be that threat to you right but i really don't want to kill somebody you know like even like it's scary. You know, someone breaks into your house and they're armed for lethal force and they're going to end your life and you need to protect yourself.
Starting point is 02:15:11 It's still probably naive to be like, but I really don't want that person to die. You know what I mean? But it's not naive to say that you don't want that person to die. I mean, you're saying that killing someone would have a negative effect on you as a person. On them. And it would have a negative effect on you as a person. On them. And it would have a negative effect on you, right? So you kill somebody and that's not going to leave you that you killed somebody. That's going to stay with you.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Do you want that on your conscience no matter what that person did? I mean, do you want to have to like – I don't see it that way, for me at least. If I was forced into a situation where I know I have to defend myself or someone else, I accept that. Sure, you can accept it. But I think no matter what we do, when we do something that, like, for example, when you commit, like, there's a couple of different kinds of commandments, right, in the Ten Commandments. So there's the kind where you sin against God. There's the kind where you sin against others.
Starting point is 02:16:03 And there's the kind where you sin against yourself, right? So why do you not covet your neighbor's wife? You don't covet your neighbor's wife because not because of the harm it does anyone else, the harm it does you. So when you commit a sin or when you do something that, you know, there's ways that you can harm yourself in doing that. So I can understand why even in a situation where you would be defending yourself, you would maybe say that you don't necessarily want to have to kill someone, even if you can justify it later, even if you can perfectly well understand that you were within your rights and that it was the only thing you could do. You're still carrying that with you, right? I understand that point. For me, it's mostly about the other person.
Starting point is 02:16:48 It's about this idea where, you know, when I was younger, I just thought about the concept of the death penalty. Imagining someone in a position where their life is snuffed out and the experience they go through and what it means to end a unique individual, no matter how bad that person might be, is, it's like, I don't know how to, I don't know how to describe it, but it's an, it's an exertion of power beyond what I think we should be. I totally agree. I'm a hundred percent opposed to capital punishment. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:14 So no matter, no matter what the, no matter what the wretched, miserable crime. I know it's tough, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So even if someone's breaking in and they want to hurt me, I'm like, they might be bad people, but I'm not bad people. That's what I'm saying. That's tough. But it is naive because a lot of people I talk to, defense experts say, well, then you'll die.
Starting point is 02:17:33 Right. I mean, it's interesting, too, like the Quaker position. The Quaker position is nonviolence no matter what, like never taking up arms against someone else even to defend yourself but then you could also say like uh you know in in that case if no one life is better than any others then why is the life of the person who's trying to kill me better than mine that's interesting too it's a you know all right definitely worth philosophical examination gold 818 says sorry tim but i think she got you on this argument sure Sure, an individual may be able to protect themselves against another individual,
Starting point is 02:18:08 but good luck when a gang comes in and invades your property. Watch the walking dead. All right, well, my opinion is that an armed society is a polite society, and I think you need neighborhood watch. You know, I was reading about the formation of police departments. It was interesting
Starting point is 02:18:23 because the left likes to claim that they were formed from slave patrols. That's actually not true. It's actually not true. Yeah, it's funny. There are some, some police departments did, but mostly not. It was just the concept of local policing that was being implemented in certain countries. And then it was eventually brought over here for a variety of reasons. And the interesting thing is that before police, we local militias just had community watch people responsible for themselves and then
Starting point is 02:18:51 they brought in policing i think we face a very serious problem as a civilization especially one with classically liberal roots due to the population due to population density the the more i talked to you i mentioned this before and ian got a kick out of this because you're into physics. The more people are the further you are away, your bubble of rights is massive. You live in the middle of nowhere. You can go outside. You can, you know, if you literally live in the
Starting point is 02:19:16 middle of nowhere, you can be pretty irresponsible with, you know, dangerous stuff. There's no one around, right? You can have a gender reveal party in the middle of nowhere. Right. Well, I mean, just as long as you're not near the forest because you're up right down. But then as you get from absolute rural where you have like 200 acres of your own property, there's no one anywhere and you're in between the saddle of two mountains and you can fire into the backstop. You can do whatever you want for the most part.
Starting point is 02:19:38 You're not going to hurt anybody. You still got to be careful about causing damage to the environment for sure. Then you get closer to the suburbs and your sphere of right starts going down because now you have people not too far away and now you can't use guns because even if you have backstop it's probably going to be noisy you've got to be careful about what time you're doing certain things then you move into the cities and your rights become this microscopic bubble because now everyone's competing with each other over your rights. Now, to clarify, everybody's rights are immutable, inalienable. But the problem is civil disputes erupt.
Starting point is 02:20:11 So what happens is I don't want you to have a gun because we're all sitting right next to each other and someone could be irresponsible and the bullet could end up hurting a bunch of people. And my argument is the Constitution doesn't say population density affects your right to keep and bear arms, but people in cities don't care and they vote for things because they're in conflict with each other. So I view it kind of like the states of matter.
Starting point is 02:20:33 When, when you condense everyone into a cubicle brick and they're all stacked on top of each other, it becomes like a solid matter where you can't, you're not really free to move all that much. You move on to the suburbs, it's more liquid and you can move around. You still have some ability to do things that are kind of out of the ordinary. And then you have the gaseous state, which is in the middle of nowhere, where you can basically do whatever you want, and you're free to bounce around and go crazy. Yeah. And then we'll have plasma
Starting point is 02:20:53 state. Where people are in outer space drifting. Teleportation. Right. Plasma state. That thing where you're looking in the person's eyes. Oxytocin is released. Yeah. Right. Alright, Christian Schultzz says legalize mutual unarmed combat all right all right we'll just read one more right here uh it just says dash loving this bombshell pro-america political discourse the disagreement on this footage are consistently
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