Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #279 - Chauvin Lawyer Files To OVERTURN Trial Due To Juror Lying w/Kim Klacik

Episode Date: May 5, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join former congressional candidate and leader of the Red Renaissance PAC Kimberly Klacik to discuss Chauvin's attempt to get a fair trial, the unjust freedom of Portland rioters, ...the Louisville diner who took the law into his own hands when BLM interrupted his dinner, Biden's gaffe about taxation, Trump creating a new social media platform, and the US economy facing looming challenges. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 First, we heard one of the alternate jurors, a woman who didn't know she was an alternate. We heard her say that she didn't want to go through the riots and the destruction again, and she was worried that someone would show up to her house and retaliate. This, of course, in the Derek Chauvin trial. Then we heard about another juror who came out and talked about his time on the jury. This time, a photo emerged showing him wearing a shirt that said, get your knee off our necks, Black Lives Matter. He had attended a Black Lives Matter rally where some of the speakers were family members of George Floyd. This man, as a juror, said he would be impartial and also said in a questionnaire that he did
Starting point is 00:00:34 not attend any of these protests pertaining to police brutality. I suppose he's trying to play this semantic game of, well, the rally was something totally different in D.C. That was about Martin Luther King Jr., not police brutality, even though Floyd's family spoke there about police brutality. So, yeah, he lied. And now this, on top of a whole bunch of other reasons, has the defense, the defense lawyer for Derek Chauvin, filing for a new trial to impeach, as it were, the verdict, essentially overturning it.
Starting point is 00:01:06 This isn't just an appeal. This is outright saying we need a new trial because this whole thing was broken. Now, a lot of media outlets are saying it's about this one juror. It actually doesn't even mention the juror for the most part. It just mentions juror misconduct, which is probably all you really need. And then maybe when he goes to argue it, but I'll tell you this, he's presenting this to the judge in the case as if that judge is going to give them a new trial. The judge thinks it's fair, right? We'll see how this plays out. We've got a bunch of other
Starting point is 00:01:34 stories though. I think it's in Louisville. A guy pulled a gun on a Black Lives Matter protest. Actually, they pulled the gun first, I think, then this other guy pulls a gun. Tensions are getting hot. So we're going to talk all about this. Joining us today is the ever wonderful former congressional candidate and founder of Red Renaissance, Kim Klasick. Thanks for having me. Do you want to briefly introduce yourself? Sure. So I ran in Maryland's congressional district number seven. This is my second time here. Again, thanks for having me back. Different building. Yes. Beautiful. And you know, I wasn't successful in my bid, but I learned a lot, right? You fail, you fail forward. You learn those lessons. And even though we lost, like I said, you know, we got
Starting point is 00:02:15 a lot gained. And so we started a pack called Red Renaissance and we're supporting minority candidates across the entire country that are running in the districts they grew up in, that they've been doing community work in and they're more america first candidates so we the people not towing the party line cool right on ian's chilling yeah hanging out man ian cross on what up good to see you buddy and i am here in the corner pushing buttons happy to have kim back with us again in our new studio oh yeah man i'm looking at all the stories we have pulled up, and I'm like, man, this summer is going to get nuts. It's just going to be fires and brimstone.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I got to say, it is ridiculous that if this guy wants to impeach the trial verdict, that he has to go to the same judge that issued the thing. You got to appeal outside of what is the point. Right. Well, before we get into all that, go to TimCast.com and become a member by clicking this big old blue members only button. You can then go to the members area where we have a bunch of exclusive segments
Starting point is 00:03:13 for members only. Really, really great stuff. People seem to really love these two of these videos. We had Jim Hansen talking about California, New York losing congressional seats. We also did this really great discussion with Michael Knowles about God, faith, and religion, and spirituality, and science, and DMT, and all of that crazy stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:30 But we're definitely going to have a members-only exclusive up tonight after the show. So if you want to see this, you've got to become a member. In the event we get banned, which I think is increasingly likely when you look at what's going on, I mean, mean look if they're not going to get a fair trial for a cop then i think it's fair to say it's going to get pretty bad for the rest of us censorship is probably going to get worse and uh well if you want to support us in the event that happens you'll find all our content here at timcast.com you can become a member let's jump into this first story before we do smash the like button hit the notification bell subscribe
Starting point is 00:04:03 to this channel and leave us a good review if you're listening on a podcast platform. Give us five stars. Here we go. Here's the big story. From WCCO, CBS, Minnesota, Derek Chauvin's attorney
Starting point is 00:04:15 files motion for new trial. They report, Attorney Eric Nelson has filed a motion for a new trial for former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin in the death of George Floyd.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Nelson filed the motion on the grounds of juror misconduct and that the court abused its discretion for failing to agree to the defense's request for a change of venue and sequester in the jury. I'm a stop right there. It's actually substantially more comprehensive than that. This kind of feels like local outlets are trying to downplay the defense as they keep doing. It's particularly annoying. So the filing comes in the midst of a controversy surrounding a photo of juror Brandon Mitchell at the March on Washington last August, which included speeches from George Floyd's family members. He is seen wearing a T-shirt that says, get your knee off our necks. In his juror questionnaire, Mitchell wrote that he had not attended any protest over police brutality. Mitchell told WCCO Monday that he was at the march in support of
Starting point is 00:05:10 ramping up voter turnout. That doesn't matter. They didn't ask, did you go to a police brutality protest for another reason? They said, did you? He said, no, he lied. Here's what gets crazy. This dude is interviewed in a podcast called like Get Up Erica. I think it is Get Up Mornings with Erica or something where he's asked about jury duty says, if you want to affect change, I'm paraphrasing, you got to get on these juries to affect change. I mean, right then and right, right there, you see his motivation. He wanted to get on the jury. He lied to get on the jury because he wanted a guilty verdict. That is not impartiality, but let me pull up the actual file and then we'll start. We'll get into this. Check this out. So this is the actual legal filing notice of a motion and motion.
Starting point is 00:05:49 They say to the above named court, the honorable Peter A. Cahill, judge of Hennepin County District Court and Matthew G. Frank, assistant Minnesota attorney general. Maybe the attorney general will take this and go, geez are great arguments i'm going to have a new trial for chauvin but i really doubt the judge that judge cahill receiving this is going to do anything other than no ignore it so this is this is the defendant's notice of motions and post-verdict motions they say they're they're filing a motion for an order granting a new trial saying on the following grounds the interest of justice abuse of discretion the deprived that i'm sorry abuse of discretion that deprived the defendant
Starting point is 00:06:32 of a fair trial prosecutorial and jury misconduct errors of law at trial and a verdict that is contrary to law the specific basis for this motion include but not but are not limited to they they say they didn't change the venue. They abused its discretion when denied the motion for a new trial on the grounds of publicity during the proceedings, threatened the fairness of the trial. Say the court failed to sequester the jury. The state committed pervasive prejudicial prosecutorial misconduct, which deprived Chauvin of his constitutional rights to due process in a fair trial, including but not limited to disparaging the defense, improper vouching, and failing to adequately prepare its witnesses. The court abused its discretion and violated
Starting point is 00:07:14 Chauvin's rights under the confrontation clause when it failed to order Maurice Hall to testify or in the alternative to admit into evidence Mr. Hall's statements to law enforcement regarding his interactions with Floyd. Maurice Esther Hall was, according to Floyd's girlfriend, their drug dealer who was there with George Floyd. He pleaded the fifth and there were questions from the defense as to why the prosecution would not grant him immunity and order subpoena him to testify. Maybe some people assume it's because they want to charge this man later with murder, with the murder of George Floyd, or at least have that open as an option. But they could have said, you'll be immune from prosecution. Now testify
Starting point is 00:07:53 as to what happened. They didn't do it. We got more. The court abused its discretion when it submitted instructions to the jury that failed to accurately reflect the law with respect to second degree unintentional murder, third degree murder, and authorized use of force. They say it violated Mr. Chauvin's rights when it permitted the state to present cumulative evidence with respect to use of force. That's interesting. I guess they're saying there should have been one expert saying, here's what the policy is and be done with it. But they brought in multiple people saying just different things. The court abused its discretion in violation of Chauvin's rights when it ordered the state to lead a witness on direct examination. They say they also failed. So here's, I think this is I in the motion. It failed to order that a record be made of the
Starting point is 00:08:38 numerous sidebars that occurred during trial. And they say, Jay, the cumulative effect of multiple errors in his proceedings deprived Mr. Chauvin of a fair trial in violation of his constitutional rights. And then it finally gets to two because it was one, A, B, C, D, A,
Starting point is 00:08:52 you know, you get it. Two, it says, an order for a hearing to impeach the verdict pursuant to Minnesota R. Crim P. 26.03 Subdivision 206 and Schwartz v. Minneapolis
Starting point is 00:09:03 Suburban Busco. On the grounds the jury committed misconduct, felt threatened or intimidated, felt race-based pressure during proceedings and or failed to adhere to instructions during deliberations in violation of Chauvin's constitutional right to due process and a fair trial. They say a motion for an order granting the defense additional time to thoroughly brief the above issues and any other relief deemed fair and equitable by the court. The motion is based upon the files and records in the case. You get the point.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And I really, really doubt this will go anywhere. But, okay, now that we've gotten through all that, the trial wasn't fair, in my opinion. I don't know what you guys think. And I don't think there's going to be a new trial. But if there is, I don't know. How many buildings do you think they'll burn down this time oh gosh that's the problem that's the problem seven that's a great number um a good a good solid number seven can't go wrong i think it's gonna be more than that it's gonna be at least seven yeah so they can't put this appeal in until
Starting point is 00:09:59 after sentencing right isn't that how this works this is a motion for a new trial okay yeah i'm not sure how it works i'm not a lawyer i a new trial. Okay. Yeah, I'm not sure how it works. I'm not a lawyer. I don't think this is an appeal. I think they're outright saying the court is out of order. Y'all need to give us a new trial. I really doubt the judges. I doubt they're going to do that.
Starting point is 00:10:15 The judge already refused to do all of these things listed. Right. Like, we're going to have a trial right here in the city while the city's on fire. I'm sure the jurors will be fine about that. Dude, the guy had a Black Lives Matter shirt on at a protest. The juror who says, to effect change, you've got to weasel your way. He didn't say weasel. You don't get on a jury to effect change.
Starting point is 00:10:37 You get on a jury to be a neutral arbiter of the law. I actually agree with what he said. It's not about, like, for activism purposes. Maybe I disagree with the spirit of what he said. It's not about like for activism purposes. Maybe I disagree with the spirit of what he said. But the idea is if you want to be – if you want positive change in your community, you've got to be active in civics. You've got to get on juries. And when someone is accused of like – I'll tell you this. If I was on a jury and this will disqualify me from all future juries related to gun laws.
Starting point is 00:11:04 If I was on a jury and they were like this young man, Chicago, inner city, young black man has a handgun. And they're like, he's being charged with felony possession. I'd be like, I vote to nullify, jury nullification. That means you can, as a juror, choose to say he's not guilty even if they instruct you. They give you instructions where they say, if the law says you can't have a gun and you believe he had a gun, then he's guilty. You can go, nah, I don't think it should be illegal to have a gun. So if it were me on a jury, I'd be like, nullify. You've got to have a pretty damn good case to be out of reasonable doubt.
Starting point is 00:11:35 What do they do in those cases if you're like the lone juror that – Mistrial. So how long will they deliberate until they're like, we can't, it's a mistrial? I mean, I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I'd imagine it could be theoretically quick. If you were just sitting there with your feet up, you're like, I will never change my mind. And then just plug your ears and go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:11:54 They might come out and be like, he's not going to budge. We're not unanimous. There's no, you know, not unanimous. So I wonder if they could charge this juror separately. Do you know what I mean? I think they should. I think he should get perjury or something. Yeah, they should.
Starting point is 00:12:08 They should. But I don't, I mean, that wouldn't affect Chauvin in any way. No, I mean, if they did, it would probably force a new trial. But they're not going to do it because the judicial system is, look, man, the crazy terrorists got their way. They went around smashing up buildings, setting fires, breaking windows. And, you know, cowardly Cahill, that's what I call him, he's the judge, just gave in and didn't treat this appropriately. He could have just said, look, we can't do the trial here. Any reasonable person would suggest as much.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And he said no. He kept the trial in a place that's just absolutely ridiculous. And then he made those comments about Maxine Waters. Remember? He said, oh, this could end up, right? And then he keeps going forward. And you're just like, dude, what? In my opinion, he was scared that if he said,
Starting point is 00:12:58 okay, we're going to move venue, he'd get the pig's head at his house. You hear about the juror, I'm sorry, the witness who got a pig's head at his house. I heard the metaphor. I didn't know that actually happened during the juror, I'm sorry, the witness who got a pig's head at his house. Oh. I heard the metaphor. I didn't know that actually happened during the Chauvin case.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yes, one of the witnesses for the defense, his old house had a pig's head and blood smeared on it. This is like mafia tactics. Dude, it's terrorism. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:13:17 Hey, it worked. These people got what they wanted. Yeah. Honestly, a new trial, if you truly believe he's guilty, I can't imagine you would have a problem with another trial.
Starting point is 00:13:27 You know what, man? We've already heard from these leftists who are saying, why do we even need a trial? We watched it on video. It's like, dude, because you have no idea. Like, man, man, imagine how stupid that statement is because we've heard it from many leftists saying we all saw it on video. Imagine I walk up to you, Ian, and I punch you in the face as hard as I can. Right. And then you defend yourself.
Starting point is 00:13:50 But when the police arrive, they say you hitting me and you get arrested for it. It's like old school bully tactics. Yep. So you can't just look at a video and say that, like, that's definitive proof of something. Well, point in case, remember the Capitol Hill insurrection with Brian Sicknick? Remember it came out that he was hit with the fire extinguisher and that killed him? And then it came out later it was natural causes. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And so everyone said, well, we saw the video. He got hit in the head. And then people were like, that's how he died. And then they came back and said, no, he had two strokes. You know, when I started doing all the live streaming stuff, I had journalists telling me, like, now that we have this, like, live on the ground reporting, you can't fake news anymore. And I was like, what do you mean? It's easier than ever to fake news. Live streaming has made it easier to fake news because people believe they're watching raw, real footage.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's so easy to just, like, lying is always easy and abusing people's trust is always easy. It's scary. It's unfortunate. And we can see how the corporate press takes advantage of that. So you can't just look at a video. And most of us did. I think almost all of us did. We watched that video and we were angry about it.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And then all of a sudden more information came out. And I think a lot of us got embarrassed that we jumped the gun on that one. I thought Chauvin was so guilty and villainous. And then I saw the second video of... What's his name? Why can I not remember this guy's name sometimes? George Floyd. Just like kicking
Starting point is 00:15:13 and whining about how he can't breathe before he even apprehended. He's in the car. Yeah, like pushing himself out of the cop car. And then he's on drugs. I'm like, what? And he's on fentanyl and meth. And like, oh my god. But that first video was burning my... It was still burned in my brain i was just able to kind of compartmentalize it and i don't know if many people can do that yeah well yeah well i thought
Starting point is 00:15:35 it was weird the defense attorney kept saying like in his closing statement he said any reasonable cop would have done this any reasonable cop would have done that and i said well i don't know if any reasonable cop would have knelt on him for that long as he was already subdued and i thought to me that was a hard sell you know because he was already in handcuffs he wasn't really moving around i thought any reasonable cop i know would have stood up except i think it was the prosecution's own witness who testified they did the same thing really Really? That's why I'm watching this trial and I'm just confused as to how this verdict came about other than the jury walked in the room. As soon as the door closed
Starting point is 00:16:12 one guy goes, I don't want anyone burning my house down. Can we just say guilty? We all agree guilty? Okay. But we can't just come out right now and say it. So how about we just order some pizza watch Ratatouille, come back in the morning and then say guilty and make it seem like a done deal. I would think that maybe they could blur, obviously maybe not, but blur the jurors' faces out and modulate their voices and let us listen to the deliberation.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I just feel like at this time, anybody could be found out at this point. And so I felt like, and then the way Maxine Waters was talking about it, I just felt like they had no way out. Man, if I was on a jury like that, I'd just put my feet up and be like, nah. And they'd be like, we all want to go home, and no one wants their house burned down. I'd be like, I got time. Not guilty. I'm sorry. Guilty does not mean he's innocent of any wrongdoing.
Starting point is 00:16:57 It means there's reasonable doubt. You don't have to prove his innocence. You just have to doubt the official story from the state. The state won.'s it's amazing the state are the are the they scapegoat chauvin he's the problem but i want to mention this one one quick thing back to that earlier point i'm pretty sure it was the prosecution's witness that on cross-examination by the defense was asked have you ever subdued somebody and held them down until ems arrived? And he said, yes, I have. He's like, okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:28 So the jury can hear that. You also had the use of force experts say Chauvin could have used a less... He could have used more force if he wanted to. He chose not to. And then Nelson, the defense, was like, so Chauvin chose to use a lesser force option instead of just immediately tasing him.
Starting point is 00:17:43 He could have tased him, right? Tased him unconscious, basically? Chauvin could have jumped out of a car, walked right up, and just stuck the taser right into Floyd, according to the state's own witness. So it's very, very obvious. There's no fair and impartial jury here. And I'd be really surprised
Starting point is 00:17:58 if Cowardly Cahill actually decided to do this. No, the city doesn't care. They're all crooked. They're all corrupt. They're just... Look, look, look. I warned about this a year ago, a year do this. No, the city doesn't care. They're all crooked. They're all corrupt. They're just... Look, look, look. I warned about this a year ago,
Starting point is 00:18:08 a year before this. The more the mob wins in situations like this, the more they're allowed to get away with this violence. Like now in Portland, we're hearing they're dropping felony charges
Starting point is 00:18:18 even on Antifa people who confessed. The more they do this, the more people realize they're untouchable, the more you'll get judges dropping to their knees and and and just groveling and begging them to leave him alone this is so wrong that it would this appeal thing or this goes to that judge that's so wrong this
Starting point is 00:18:34 should go to a higher court or to some external authority that can replace the judge if it's found that there was impropriety that he overlooked bro it's it's it's you're right you're absolutely right and i think it's just at this point i think we need to recognize what's happening and uh here's what's happening fox news most portland riot suspects won't be prosecuted u.s attorney reveals charges have been dismissed against 58 of the 97 people arrested during the unrest last year here's my favorite part. David Bochard admitted he put a Customs and Border Protection officer in a chokehold. Charles Comfort was indicted by a grand jury of civil disorder for twice charging at Portland police officers and
Starting point is 00:19:16 hitting them with a shield and kicking a third officer while being arrested. Both men faced federal charges stemming from their actions. But Boouchard and Comfort are among dozens of Portland federal arrestees whose cases were dismissed or are being deferred without so much as a day behind bars. What does that mean, deferred? So they basically say
Starting point is 00:19:37 we're not going to do anything right now. We could later on and eventually it expires or something. So they admitted it. Like literally a dude admits to attacking cops. This is why I've been harsh on the police that are remaining right now. Okay, so why is this happening though? Because the police are arresting them, Antifa, these rioters, and they're bringing them in.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And then... The DA, who is an elected official, then says, Antifa, you're free to go. It's not the police. So it's like a sorting algorithm where the cops just are grabbing people and they're like, I'm a neutral enforcer of the law. And then once they send all the people to the DA, the DA goes, are you a Democrat? You're free to go. Are you far left? You're free to go.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is that a MAGA hat? Lock him up. Throw the book at him. Progressive? Sorry about that. Sorry for that a MAGA hat? Lock him up. Throw the book at him. Progressive? Sorry about that. Sorry for wasting your time. Conservative? Lock him up. If you take a look at what's going on, what happened in New York with the
Starting point is 00:20:31 Proud Boys fighting with Antifa, Proud Boys got four years in prison. Antifa ran away. Now, I guess that's the fault of the Proud Boys for trusting cops. I find that really funny. These are the kind of people that go around saying, thank you, officer. Thank you. So after they got into a fight with Antifa and the cops show up, the proud boys were like, hello, officer.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Thank you. Here's my name and information. And the cops smiled and said, now I'm going to lock you in prison for four years. Antifa, they're free to go because they left. And that, and that's, that's, that's what I find particularly funny about all this, that we've now got what a year of the far left and Antifa being cut loose. They keep arresting them. They keep getting let go.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Conservatives are getting like solitary confinement for what happened in D.C. Just like really brutal conditions. You look at Chauvin. You look at what's going on with Rittenhouse. And conservatives are still sitting there. Not all of them. A lot of them have actually abandoned cops at this point. But they're still sitting there going like, I think it's okay that cops are arresting conservatives
Starting point is 00:21:27 and putting them in prison. And then Antifa gets cut loose. I'm like, no, I think that's pretty bad. If we stay on that track in like a year, what do you think is going to happen? All of the conservative activists who so much as step foot outside or dare open their small business, they'll get locked up. Antifa can go and burn a building down, and the DA is going to be like, I'm so sorry we wasted your time, sir. I'm so sorry. Okay, okay, I got to pull back the hyperbole a little bit. The guy who burned down the police department, at least, he's getting prison time.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Yeah. But a bunch of these people who actually set fires, like one lady, she got charged with multiple – no, actually, I think if you set a building on fire and they catch you, you're going to get arrested. They're actually going to hold you. But the people who are literally attacking cops are getting away with it. One lady had five felonies. They dropped the charges, let her go with no bail. And then she set fire to the police building, the union building in Portland.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And then they arrested her and then released her with no bail again. Oh, my gosh. That's why I'm like, maybe it's time to get out of the cities and just be responsible for yourself. Because you can't trust a system to do its job anymore. We've been seeing these stories for months now that far left district attorneys have been getting elected. And these are people like, you know, Kim Fox, who dropped the charge against Jesse Smollett. These are the kind of people you're getting. So sure, the cops are just following the law. I'm sorry, man. If these people keep electing Democrats who keep passing insane laws and electing progressive district attorneys who won't prosecute progressives, you can tell me the cops being neutral, but they're just propping up these corrupt Democrats and these corrupt DAs. So what you're saying, I think what you're introducing is like this two-sided coin where conservatives need to both leave the big cities where this is happening.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Because let's be real. If those conservatives hadn't been in that crowd with Antifa, they never would have been arrested in the first place. But they have a right to demonstrate whatever as long as they're not being violent. What do you mean conservatives in the crowd? So the people who were arrested alongside of Antifa in Portland. What do you mean? So like the people who went in and the DA just throws the book at them in these big blue cities.
Starting point is 00:23:26 So, in New York, for instance, Proud Boys were at an event. Right. And Antifa was outside protesting and everywhere the Proud Boys tried going, Antifa would be, like, standing on the street and hollering at them.
Starting point is 00:23:37 One guy got robbed. They stole his backpack. So the Proud Boys charged at Antifa, got into a fight, and then walked away gloating and laughing about it and live-streaming it. Antifa ran off.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And then when the cops came, the Proud Boys were like, thank you, officer. We appreciate it. And then the cops slapped cuffs on them. Not right at that moment. They got indicted for gang violence. So I'm not saying literally at Antifa protests, the cops are going and arresting conservatives. However, there was one instance, I think it was in Portland, where a bunch of conservatives were out protesting
Starting point is 00:24:04 and the cops literally guarded a bunch of Antifa. I think it's I think I just find that hilarious. And then we did see, you know, some people throw their blue lives matter, the thin blue line flags in the dirt and stomp on them. But I just like, you know, in this town south of Minneapolis, this woman got got a couple arrest warrants. I think like nine charges because she opened her wine and coffee bar and the cops tracked her down in a different state, like 30 miles away in a different state,
Starting point is 00:24:31 and arrested her and brought her back and she's going to be charged with all these crimes. Meanwhile, the far left gets away with, I mean, literally a couple dozen people died in these riots. It's going to keep happening. I'm thinking about, maybe we'll talk about this later. There's a video I just saw of a cop pulling a girl over who was driving with their kid
Starting point is 00:24:51 and started screaming at him that he was a murderer. Did you guys see that? Oh, yeah. I did see that, yeah. Yeah, and then she was calling him like, you'll never be white. You wish you were. You can't be. You're useless.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And I was just thinking about the kid. Like the Hitler youth, Hitler made sure to get little kids involved early to brainwash them when they were, like, nine. Yeah, what do you think they're doing in schools right now? Exactly. And so I'm afraid of what these kids, not just next year, what's going to happen, but, like, in seven years,
Starting point is 00:25:16 when these six-year-olds and nine-year-olds are, like, becoming politically active, how dangerous that brainwashing is. I mean, that's his mom saying that horrible stuff, and she's a teacher. Yes. To a cop right in front of him. It didn't get even represented for her. Well, the funny thing is, I guess what happened was the cop drove past her.
Starting point is 00:25:35 So she was driving, and she pulls out her phone. So he pulls her over, and then she's like, I pulled out my phone to record you. It's like he's just driving down the street. Are you nuts? Wow. Yeah, these people have gone insane. And I blame, to a great degree, social media. It's empowering these lunatics.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Then you have the grifters on the left who don't care. They just want to make money, so they'll just say whatever. Then you have the true believers who are just loving it. They're loving the media. They're loving the social media. They're loving the manipulation. And then you get seemingly regular people losing their minds and screaming that this cop is a murderer who wants to be white if i'd seen my mom do that
Starting point is 00:26:10 when i was eight to a cop i would have lost so much respect for cops and felt so empowered to just just trash that that establishment treat like they're nothing they're never going to harm me i can do whatever i want in this world as long as i call them racist or or denigrate them for the way they look i'm not going to blame every single cop in every single jurisdiction for what we're seeing in these big cities but these big city cops are bad because the good ones have left from okay so we have a situation in baltimore we have a very far left progressive state's attorney marilyn mosby and it's unfortunate because i've talked to police officers. They say, you know, we arrest people.
Starting point is 00:26:48 We take them to central booking, but it doesn't matter because they're just going to let them go free. And so now we have a situation where cops really aren't out doing their job because they're sick of it because they're like, why would I be there? Number one, I could get into conflict and be called racist if something happens between a white cop and a black person. And then two, they're just going to let them go free. You know, we have 11-time repeat offenders on our streets doing violent crimes.
Starting point is 00:27:13 And it's insane. And so, you know, our state's attorney, she's already said she's not going to prosecute any low-level crimes. So you can be a drug dealer. You can be a prostitute. You can be all of these things. But you better wear a mask. And you can't have a gun. You can't have a gun you can't have a gun yes oh well the law-abiding citizens right right the criminals can still carry permits for you yeah there's 11 time we had someone that was arrested an 11 time repeat offender and he ended up killing someone and so now he's finally i guess
Starting point is 00:27:42 locked up we'll see but i mean it's crazy you know 11th time 11th time is the charm 11th time the charm 11th yeah yeah i'm not surprised at all by cops in baltimore just being like why would i do this and i wouldn't be surprised if then they start quitting and then you have a shortage which is oh we do we're down 700 police officers. And I think they said 500 more should be on patrol considering the population. But we just don't have it. And you know why that is?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Because the good cops left. Yeah. Because the cops who are like, I'm not going to support the crooked politicians. I'm not going to waste my time. I'm going to leave. And I respect them for doing it. Yep. The political system is broken in these places and unfortunately you know uh if if you if if you live in these places and you want to know who the
Starting point is 00:28:31 guilty party is you need only look in a mirror to uh throw shout out to v for vendetta the regular people who keep voting in these democrats i mean look they had an opportunity to elect you they voted for the other guy they did so they so i i growing up in chicago it's on it's been under democrat super majority for like 80 years and it never gets better it only gets worse and yet you have people complain about all day every day and i still hear from these people just make sure when you go vote you vote democrat and i'm like why look i don't care what party they are vote for the person think is going to do a good job. But how about we stop this single party
Starting point is 00:29:08 rule in these big cities? Because now what's going to happen is the cops aren't going to do their job. 700 officer shortage in Baltimore. It's going to get less safe. It's going to get more chaotic. And then are people actually going to wake up to the fact that they're voting in bad people?
Starting point is 00:29:23 They probably will just leave. It's a cyclical problem too. mentioned earlier like if a da lets people go it's like are you going to vote for trump okay you're free to go are you get in there like literally whether they mean to or not or maybe they do mean to that's political well a political party is is deciding the fate of these criminals you realize in portland when this guy admits to attacking a federal officer and i believe it's a felony they're how much you want to bet at least one of these people has thought if we actually charge this guy and convict him he can't vote democrat anymore felons you know it's dark but it's not even that we should we should cut these felons loose and
Starting point is 00:30:00 not charge them so they can retain their right to vote because they we know they're going to vote for our guy and they're making Trump look bad. But you get a conservative in New York and they're going to be like, give those people felonies so that they can never vote again. And there you go. And then still, I find it really fascinating. I do. When I have conversations about big tech with some conservatives
Starting point is 00:30:21 and they're like, we shouldn't regulate these big tech companies. And I'm like, okay, well, you know, in 10 years when your ideology no longer exists, don't come crawling to me and, you know, asking for help to spread the word. I'm not going to do it. If there's no free speech and these big tech companies are not regulated, the same thing's happening now with cops. There are a lot of conservatives, surprisingly, that are tweeting, the city's voted for this, let them have no cops. But I still see a lot of conservatives who surprisingly, that are tweeting, the city's voted for this. Let them have no cops. But I still see a lot of conservatives who are like, no, no, no. We have to support the officers in New York.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And I'm like, dude, the officers in New York are literally committing crimes. Like we went over this the other day. When Bill de Blasio illegally appropriates money to paint Black Lives Matter with taxpayer funds in front of Trump's building, and then 27 officers stand guard and arrest anyone who opposes the illegal actions of the mayor, like they're aiding and abetting a very serious crime and corruption. Do they know he broke the law to get that thing painted? Ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it. Especially for a cop. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Listen, if someone says, hey, come with me, and they walk into a bank and they hand you a bag and say, hold this bag and then pull out a gun. And then you're standing there like, I wonder what's happening. You're going to get in trouble. You're helping the criminal. So in these cities, you have these cops who are literally aiding and abetting criminal activities from very, very corrupt politicians. And and they're saying it's not my fault. I didn't do it. If, you know, someone else should do something about're saying it's not my fault i i didn't do it if you know someone else should do something about it it's not me this well you voted for it and i'm like
Starting point is 00:31:50 okay you all voted for it okay everybody in the city they get exactly what they deserve the conservatives who remain after losing these elections before the election i wasn't saying this after the election i say maybe you got to leave these places because otherwise what's going to happen is over a long enough period of time, progressive district attorneys. Okay? You ever go to a casino? You guys have been to a casino. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:11 You know what casinos win? The games just have a slight margin in their favor. So when you win $10,000 off a $10 bet somehow or whatever you're playing and you're all cheering, the casino is happy. They like that. You know why? Because everyone around you hears the celebration. And they start gambling more. And all that matters is that if the house wins 50.1% of the time, they're profitable.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Over a long enough period of time, they will win and keep getting money. If these big cities are run by corrupt far leftists and just de Blasio people like him who are stealing money. And you have cops supporting them over a long enough period of time. The left and the right could be arrested in equal numbers. The right will go to prison. The left will be released in 10 years. What does that mean? A bunch of conservative felons who can't vote and a bunch of insane violent offenders who
Starting point is 00:33:02 are voting to their heart's content. So I think what we need to do with the issue that we have with policing is we need to separate for conservatives. We need to separate out the idea, the concept of policing from the actual police who are enforcing these bad laws because they are bad laws. This is in fact what is voted for. There are cops who are doing bad things out there and arresting like small business owners and parents who are just trying to work.
Starting point is 00:33:23 The idea of policing I think think, is very important. Conservatives are inclined towards structure. They want organization, accountability, and responsibility, which is what we're losing. So we need to separate out these terrible cops that we have right now in these big cities who are enforcing bad laws from the actual idea, the underlying idea of police as a whole. How do you even do you how do you how do you even do that isn't i don't know yeah so so even this this woman who got arrested for opening her cafe yeah she was arrested by a local sheriff's department you know 40 miles outside or i think we're like 50 miles outside of minneapolis so this was a small town sheriff's department
Starting point is 00:34:00 tracked her down and said how dare you try and serve coffee during a pandemic and arrested her. That's crazy to me because the small town sheriffs are supposed to be like in your community and understand where you're coming from and like that you want to have your own business and you're supposed to have that camaraderie. And it looks like we're losing that too. Well, I'm sad. You want to know what happens next? Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:34:21 If these things keep continuing. I'm excited. We got the story from the Daily Mail. The moment Louisville Diner pulls handgun on armed BLM protesters after they surround Upmarket Restaurant during Kentucky Derby
Starting point is 00:34:33 demonstration for Brandon Taylor. The unidentified man is thought to have been eating at Upmarket La Chasse La Chasse? I don't know how to pronounce it. On Saturday night
Starting point is 00:34:41 when he confronted the group of around 50 people. No, they confronted him. He was sitting at a table eating and they came up to him. I love how they pronounce it on Saturday night when he confronted the group of around 50 people. No, they confronted him. He was sitting at a table eating and they came up to him. I love how they frame these things. They had been marching ahead of the 147th Kentucky Derby over Taylor's death. The dance of police footage shows as the diner points his handgun footage shows as the diner points his handgun as protesters at protesters, protesters who shouted him. A female demonstrator urges the protesters to continue moving down the block. A police spokesperson confirmed that the protesters
Starting point is 00:35:08 were also armed. There were at least five arrests. Charges include possession of a handgun by a convicted felon, failure to disperse and evading police, according to reports. Well, I will just say very quickly, possession of a handgun by a convicted felon. That's not that should not be a crime. You shouldn't lose your right to keep and bear arms simply because you've been committed a crime, in my opinion. But I digress. This is what we're going to start seeing. I mean, we've already seen in Portland when I think it was Aaron Danielson took two to the chest from the Antifa guy. We're going to see more of this.
Starting point is 00:35:39 We saw it with the McCloskeys. Antifa, BLM riots, they're going to be marching through. Regular people are going to say enough. And I got to pay homage to V for Vendetta again. That scene at the end of the movie where the inspector is narrating and he says, eventually someone will do something stupid. And it shows the cop shoot the little girl who's like wearing the mask and refusing to abide by the law. It's not one for one. It's not identical. But eventually someone will do something stupid. The rioters will show up to a restaurant and they'll It's not one for one. It's not identical. But eventually, someone will do something stupid. The rioters will show up
Starting point is 00:36:06 to a restaurant and they'll show up in the wrong neighborhood and a bunch of the dudes there are going to be armed and they're going to draw their guns and then one of these rioters is going to start shooting somebody.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Or the other way around. Someone shoots back. Yeah. Well, it's definitely going to get worse before it gets better. It's definitely going to get dangerous and that's the problem. But I don't think... I feel like Democrats are okay with this.
Starting point is 00:36:28 You know what I mean? I think they're okay with it even getting violent. Because they want to show, like, look, look at these conservatives. They're unhinged. They're violent. They're domestic terrorists. You know, that's how they want to frame us. So I think that's why we're going to continue seeing this cycle.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Well, the problem is the people who vote for Democrats don't pay attention to anything. Oh, for sure. Yeah, I learned that. So you don't even need conservatives to do anything. This is the other problem conservatives are having right now. Conservatives seem to think that even though they're being cheated, if they keep playing, they'll eventually win. Like something we described yesterday. It's like imagine you're playing Monopoly watching this person take money out of the bank and just cheat and you're
Starting point is 00:37:08 like well as long as i keep playing maybe i'll eventually get it's like no they're cheating dude yeah the immediate look the democrats come out and they're like the biggest threat we face white supremacy in the far right and there's like one riot from the from from the right in in you know like a year or two years. Or I mean, probably a lot longer than that. And then you have on the left just a year of buildings being burned, destroyed to rubble.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You had that guy at the sports bar in Minnesota where he shows up the next day after the riots and as he's walking in, they're stealing his safe and he's on camera crying. But don't worry, the FBI's not going after those people but they found a pole rope in a garage in an askar they sent out a dozen plus agents for that one yeah then you get the the capital and they got billboards and they got photos and cnn
Starting point is 00:37:56 still talking about it it's because they have a large base of really i don't want to be mean but let's just say really ignorant people who don't care. So Biden's ratings are in the gutter. CNN's ratings are in the gutter. MSNBC, they're all in the gutter because these people don't care at all. They don't watch the news. They're tribalists. They just want to fit in and say whatever they have to say.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And conservatives think playing a game against them, they're going to win it. I don't think so. I think it was Michael Malice. He tweeted something earlier. Someone said something really dumb to him. And he responded with, I don't understand how people can be so blackpilled when we're up against this. And it was like a really dumb person tweeting.
Starting point is 00:38:36 And my response was, zombies are really dumb, but when they're in hordes, they overrun you. And that's what's happening right now. And they don't sleep. Right. That I know of. Zombies don't sleep. I't think so i think i think liberals do sleep but okay yeah i think that the military industrial complex needs a villain to whip people into a fear frenzy and now they're just using this capital riot on the sixth cnn's complicit because trump's gone yeah trump's gone we're not at war with a with a greater foe at the
Starting point is 00:39:05 moment so they're looking inward to find a terror i think i think they just are trapped in a time warp like january 20th came and then you know joe biden becomes president and then brian stelter just like hit an invisible wall and then he like freaks out he's banging like like watching everyone walk away he can't get past this invisible barrier and he's just trapped in January 20th for eternity. Think about how that's a good idea for a horror movie too. It's like Groundhog Day. Some serious cash to
Starting point is 00:39:34 watch Brian Stelter's dreams. Oh really? I'd be curious. Does he dream about guilt? It's like he's in the middle of the night and he's in an old rickety It's like, it's like, it's like he's in the middle of the night and there's an, he's in an old rickety, you know, house just totally dilapidated. And he's like walking through the halls confused.
Starting point is 00:39:51 There's a thunderstorm and like lightning. And then like the hallway is completely black. But when the lightning flashes, there's just Trump standing in the back. And then he's running. But then when he gets to the door, he goes through the door to get out of the house. The door is Mike Pantz. No, no, no, no. It gets really big.
Starting point is 00:40:07 As soon as he goes through the door, he immediately comes through the back door back into the house. And he's like, no, no. He's a Pac-Man. And he's tweeting, Trump is here. Trump is here. And then everyone else in the real world can see his messages. And they think that he's just lost his mind, but he's really trapped in this time vortex surrounded surrounded by evil trumps or he's just obsessed with trump and can't stop talking about it i like my version better i think scarier to brian stelter with trump not being there because he has nothing
Starting point is 00:40:35 to talk about or focus on uh ian i don't think it's a military industrial complex i think it's the deep state or whatever they called it like the unelected officials who stay in power. The people who want. But I don't like the whole deep state thing because it implies that the permanent politicians aren't part of it. No, like Nancy Pelosi gets elected no matter what. Interesting. She just like stands there and then just like stands on a stage and farts and they're like, yeah!
Starting point is 00:40:58 And they vote for her. I wonder if that's part of it. Like those people that are in office for 40 years are kind of co-opted by that system. Whether they're like shaking hands with the people that are making the decisions or not, I don't know. I think the system is just always going to prop up the most vapid and awful people. That's so terrible. I mean, Kim didn't win. No offense.
Starting point is 00:41:18 But, you know, the good people don't get it. You end up with people like Kinzinger and Pelosi. It didn't always used to be twisted, right? Abe Lincoln could win, basically. Yeah, but it was twisted. Got twisted in the 40s or something? Sometimes, Ian. Sometimes there's a glimmer of hope.
Starting point is 00:41:37 And a saint-like hero emerges. We had Donald Trump. I'm kidding. Saint-like, yes. I'm totally kidding. The statements were not connected. Godly, yeah. For one reason or another, the politicians
Starting point is 00:41:47 are always bad, but we had a few good people that just don't make it because you've got to be truly vile to gain that kind of power. I've got to know, Kim, tell me about it. What was it like? We thought we did pretty good, but unfortunately we weren't part of the establishment.
Starting point is 00:42:04 We didn't get support from the RNC. We didn't get support really from the Maryland GOP party. You know, they all had in mind who they wanted to run in the seat. And so when I went the primary, I think they were kind of pissed. And then when the video came out, they were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're drawing too much attention to a seat that we never planned on winning. We're not going to win it. We're not going to exhaust donors on you or volunteers.
Starting point is 00:42:25 So please go sit down somewhere. You know, so they were kind of pissed that we got so much traction, I think, because they, you know, our governor Hogan is supposedly a Republican and he's friends with the guy that beat me, Kweisi Fume, who is
Starting point is 00:42:42 a very establishment Democrat. He was the former president of the NAACP. He was a former congressman in that seat before Congressman Elijah Cummings. And so he is part of that swamp, I guess. But Governor Hogan is friends with him. You know, they all are friends. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what aisle or side of the aisle that they're on. They're all friends.
Starting point is 00:43:02 They grew up in this. They've been doing politics for many, many years, and they hold true to each other. This is why they hate Trump? Correct. Trump is rich, but he's not part of that club. They don't like him. He's a bombastic weirdo.
Starting point is 00:43:17 And, you know, I have to imagine when he got elected, they probably were like, okay, Donald, you got elected. Now here's the plan. He was like, no, America first. And they were like and they were like whoa whoa whoa what are you talking about and then they were like we gotta stop this guy he's not in line with what we want to do take a look at lindsey graham you know he walks up to kamala harris on the floor and he like what did he do he fist bumped her or something it's like i don't expect him to be all enemies and hate each other i like the idea that you can not agree with someone and still be friends with them right but i think what you see from the likes of lindsey graham and
Starting point is 00:43:48 people like mitch mcconnell is that you know i i'm calling him milquetoast mcconnell he doesn't do anything now that republicans have no power all of a sudden he's like oh i'm gonna fight for all the republicans oh yeah it's like bro had the power. You did literally nothing with it. You don't care. It's a show. Is it? Political theater. Yeah. That's what it is. Politicians just go there and they want to pretend like they're doing something.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's almost like these big tech hearings we keep seeing where it's like we've had like, what, eight now or whatever. So many. Whatever the upteenth time that Ted Cruz yells at Jack Dorsey. I'm just like, uh-huh. And I think Ted Cruz is all right. But at a certain point, I'm just like, dude, just stop. You're not doing anything. You can't do anything. I don't care to hear you yell at Mark Zuckerberg again.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It's performative. It doesn't mean anything to me. The founding fathers were scientists, Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin. I mean, Franklin obviously, if not invented electricity, discovered it for our culture. Yeah, invented it. Thomas Jefferson was a writer, a musician. I mean, I don't know. I know he was involved with the sciences as well.
Starting point is 00:44:53 And those are the people running the country. And we kind of need that again. Not to have, like, theatrical, you know, people that just talk a lot and get paid. What it was is that the government running the colonies was thousands of miles away so they had no choice but to have their own local governments and then once you do that they're like y'all ain't even here why should we care about what you think takes you like six months to actually relay what we say to the king and back so eventually just like we should be independent it makes no sense now because of the surveillance state and you know communications and and you know big tech and all that stuff they can control
Starting point is 00:45:29 what you see and what you hear man it is it is it's beyond creepy it's more about encryption than distance now like how long does it take the computer to crack the encryption code on your message as opposed to how far away is it being sent and how long is it going to take to get there i'd imagine they can crack encryption, and we think they can. Yeah, even quantum encryption. They have quantum cracking computers and things like that, I hear. I'm willing to bet they've got quantum computers and can crack, can unravel even
Starting point is 00:45:53 like the entire crypto market if they wanted to. But they just keep that out of the public eye so people don't know, and it allows them to maintain control. Yep. I think that Ian has a point because in my, I was thinking about this and i was like well what would it be like if scientists were kind of like in charge and leading us and then i started thinking about ron paul and rand paul and i was like oh yeah these are people who like work out
Starting point is 00:46:15 of the public eye who actually have like in real life experience unlike joe biden and bernie sanders who've done nothing but work in the government. And I really think that could be maybe what we need again. Right. I guess my question is, like, we all understand that in this room. But why doesn't the majority of the country understand it? That's the part that I don't get. Like, it's just so easy to see. You know, fortunately, I don't know if you guys know Congressman Jamie Raskin.
Starting point is 00:46:42 He was kind of, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All about the impeachment but a guy ran against him that i supported his name was greg kohl and he's a rocket scientist oh wow yeah and he's like i just don't know how to really get my name out there and i was like well i'll help you as best i can and like a very intelligent guy but he still lost to jamie raskins who does absolutely nothing. And it's like, of course, these politicians, they're politicians. They can't really do much because they'd be out of a job. So, you know, it's just it's this continuing cycle.
Starting point is 00:47:13 But there's people now that are so upset, you know, with what's going on in the political arena. And now it's like you have all of these people hating each other. Before it wasn't this bad. You know, it wasn't as polarized. It's easier to cheat yeah and by cheat i mean like sock puppet accounts on social media fake opinion polls manipulation and propaganda is easier than honest arguments right it's really tough to to have a real argument with someone it's a lot easier to accuse your opponent of like you know some impropriety that they're forced to defend and then just create some scandal yeah jordan peterson was just saying or he's been saying being honest that's it when it comes down to it you may not like the result tomorrow or even
Starting point is 00:47:55 throughout the years but it is the greatest most powerful thing you can do doesn't sell in politics no i i think it's uh um honorable and i i agree with jordan you know in that sense that we should have scruples we should be focusing on doing good but come on do you really think that the average person in politics would agree with peterson literally they might publicly be like that's that's a great thing to say jordan we all got to be honest and he's got his hand behind his back with his fingers crossed it's interesting it is powerful like if you're ever honest about something you're ashamed of publicly it it hurts and you become a made fun of and but then you become more powerful and calm and who you are but it can
Starting point is 00:48:33 also get you murdered and arrested and like thrown under the like just devastated for saying what society didn't want you to say there are there are some things that you can't tell the truth about right so in terms of military capabilities if we're looking at war with China, obviously we're going to have confidential, top-secret information, confidential classified things. Because if it gets at what kind of weapons we have and where they're going, then it puts us at a very serious disadvantage for potential military conflict. That I understand. I understand why sometimes we classify information. So there's a very serious challenge we have in this country of how you actually justify the wars we do without revealing too much that could compromise security of this country. I just happen to think most of the stuff we hear about from these people, they're like – they get caught lying and enriching themselves. So I just don't believe that the political class are good people in any right.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And there's a small handful. Ron Paul's a cool dude. His kid's a good dude. There's a few other. Thomas Massey's cool. Tulsi Gabbard's pretty cool. They don't have to be right about everything, but it's like, are they honest? And I think they are.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Unfortunately, it's like five people out of 535 or whatever. Two of the people you named aren't even in politics anymore. Right. Ron and Tulsi. Sad. Who else do we have? I don't know, man. Because Crenshaw?
Starting point is 00:49:50 Crenshaw's all right. I think he's wrong about a lot, but he's all right. And I think one of the issues with, the next issue is you might have some honest people, but then you get some honest people who are like really wrong, you know? Crenshaw, didn't Crenshaw support red flag laws? He did, yeah. Yeah, Tulsi Gabbard opposed nuclear power. I think they're both great, but even then it's like, you know.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I guess if they're honest, I'd rather have an honest politician who's wrong than a crooked politician who's telling me what I want to hear. Well, I think Senator Tim Scott, from what I can tell, is pretty honest. I used to be a huge fan of Congressman Trey Gowdy. Oh, yes. And he actually told me, because I asked him. I used to be a huge fan of Congressman Trey Gowdy. Oh, yeah. And he actually told me because I asked him like before I started to run. I was like, so what do you think about this? You know, and he's like, no, he said, I would never. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to Capitol Hill. He said they're all just terrible people. And he said, you know, I didn't
Starting point is 00:50:40 get anything done. He said, look at what happened with the Benghazi committee hearings. He said we could have a hearing till we're blue in the face. It doesn't do anything. No one's held accountable. Or was it Scott or? Congressman Trey Gowdy, yeah. Tim's guy's pretty cool. I like that guy.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah. When he came out and was leading the charge on police reform, I thought that was a very good faith effort on the part of Republicans. Of course, the Democrats didn't care because they needed to weaponize this stuff. So they can't have a black Republican coming out on saying, OK, we'll do police reform. No, no. We need to tell everybody you're racist so we can get more votes. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:51:11 See, Trey Gowdy was telling you it's just he wouldn't go back. It was. No, he even did some interviews. They're like on YouTube somewhere. But he said, you there's no way he said there's no way. He also has a podcast. And I remember he used to be a prosecutor and he used to bring the fire in those hearings. And I remember just being blown away every single time.
Starting point is 00:51:29 And there's something about these guys who can make the strong arguments that have horrible hair. And he was one of those ones. But I love him to death. He's one of those people who told the truth and didn't ultimately fit in because of that. Right. Right. And he said it's hard because you're going up against this machine. And he said, I'd rather just go back and practice law.
Starting point is 00:51:46 And then I can actually hold criminals accountable. Can I be a little bit optimistic, though? Because we do get a bit doom and gloom. A little bit optimism. We're going to have a good laugh, everybody. And you may think you're up against this gigantic machine. Maybe it's like Mechagodzilla. Do you guys see the new Congress of Godzilla or whatever?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Mechagodzilla. And then you realize, back to Michael Ma mouse's point about these people are really dumb ladies and gentlemen we have a couple of gaffes we're going to start with one you may have already heard from fox business biden says americans earning less than four hundred thousand dollars will not pay a single penny in taxes i'm good all. When this guy is the president and the leader of the Democratic Party, I'm kind of like, okay, you know, the machine is like, it's like. Rusty? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:31 There's a bunch of bent spokes and like steams coming out one side and you're like, that's a big machine, but I think it's about to fall apart. So did you see this thing from Biden? I did. I did. So, okay. My favorite thing about this is how the media goes. He didn't really mean it.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It was an accident. Yes. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Misspoke. How do you know he misspoke? How do you know it was an accident? Maybe he's trolling. How messed up is it that all journalists immediately, and most people just assume, that Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:53:00 is struggling to speak clearly? I have not heard the word misspoke so many times as I have in the last two years. The word is so overused right now. You ready for the next one? Oh boy. Biden repeatedly says vaccine.gum instead of vaccine.gov and ccd instead of cdc when reading out new COVID website. Is it possible that, so for one, I think a lot of people would say that Biden is just, he's getting on in years and he can't speak properly and he's not all there. Or is it possible that, you remember in the debate when he told people to like turn on
Starting point is 00:53:35 the record player or whatever for like their kids? Yeah. Maybe he just genuinely doesn't know what.gov is. And so he's saying.gum because he heard someone say it's.gov,.gov. And he goes, .gum,.gum. I got it. He doesn't know what.whatever is. Well, do you remember when he was supposed to give the number that you were supposed
Starting point is 00:53:54 to text? Oh, gosh, yes. 330-3-3-0. 3-3-0. The dude ain't there anymore. I do kind of feel bad, but then I remember that he's a crooked, you know, corrupt politician. So I'm kind of feel bad but then I remember that he's a crooked corrupt politician so I'm kind of like eh
Starting point is 00:54:07 it balances itself out I guess I feel bad because I can't stand it but then I feel worse because he's the American president yes actual trouble on the globe I was going to say what are the other foreign guys what are they thinking right now this guy is out of control
Starting point is 00:54:24 but you know what I put it out after I saw that video about the $400,000. You know, people not having to pay taxes. You know, when he announced that he was going to run, he said he went to President Obama and told him about it. And President Obama's response was, Joe, you don't have to do this.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And I thought that right there was the red flag that I needed. You know what I mean? I think he was trying to tell him, look, you can't do this. But the DNC, I don't think they really had anyone else to run because after the first debate, Kamala did okay. And then she was hit that 1% after Tulsi Gabbard murdered her basically. Here's what I love is that the DNC is sitting around and they're, and they're probably like talking like, what do we do to beat Trump?
Starting point is 00:55:08 And the one consultant goes, listen, we got a lot of people who hate Trump. CNN runs negative press all the time. We can put anybody on this ticket and they're going to win. And then someone goes, what about Kamala? Nope.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Nope. That's the, not her. How about Joe Biden? We'll, we'll do Kamala on the ticket with them, but she can't the ticket she would actually lose out of all of the like think about this kamala harris doesn't win a single delegate and the dnc thinks you know they have all of the the moderate democrats booty judge and you know whatever drop out and endorse biden biden was the like
Starting point is 00:55:42 milk toast guy that guy that they needed. And The Atlantic wrote that article. They said, stay alive, Joe Biden. You remember this? Yeah. All we need is your corporeal form. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:52 And I'm like, geez. Inspiring. Yeah. Now you got a guy who, like the other day, he was like, I'm going to answer questions. I'm going to get in trouble if I stay any longer. Yeah. Get in trouble. With who?
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. What are you talking about? You're the president. Man, that's so creepy yeah yeah i thought honestly that senator elizabeth ward was going to try to put up somewhat of a fight i did too uh and then she just voted like everybody else i'm so excited for the day when a president will do the thing give the address and then go home and then live stream dinner with his friends or her friends i don't care yeah and so it's just a dude well and that's when i said i'll uphold the constitution high five he has friends yeah right exactly i love humans there's gonna be like it used to be
Starting point is 00:56:36 like a moral backbone you see you see him go to his buddy's garage to play poker and there's like a guy in a pink polo and khakis with shirt tucked tucked in smoking a cigar and he goes, I love that part where you said, you know, uphold the constitution. Brilliant. And they all laugh and then just like
Starting point is 00:56:49 crack open, you know, some champagne. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I, I,
Starting point is 00:56:53 I, I mean, the one thing I'm excited for and I'm wondering if you guys, you know, when do you think it'll come about?
Starting point is 00:56:59 True or not, a shot of pressure. Oh yeah. When, you know, when can we get that true or not a shot of pressure
Starting point is 00:57:03 and some Batacast characters? We're in the midst of it now, right? I think so too. I'm afraid, yeah. He's enacting his true Inanna Shabba Depressure and some Batacath characters? We're in the midst of it now, right? I think so, too. I'm afraid, yeah. He's enacting his plan for true Inanna Shabba Depressure? Can we just, like, no, but real quick. I mean, I know that was funny and everyone laughed, but think about the serious nature of the President of the United States literally said true Inanna Shabba Depressure on TV.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I listened to that over and over again to figure out what he was saying. I have no idea. Still don't know. True international. Cooperation under pressure on TV. I listened to that over and over again to figure out what he was saying. I have no idea. Still don't know. True international cooperation under pressure. Oh, okay. But that's like, come on. We're trying to read his mind on this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:34 What is an American? This is what freaks me out about people who vote for the guy and now don't pay attention to politics. This is why Starship Troopers starts to like sound better and better. Are you familiar with like Starship Troopers? I kind of know, yes. Service guarantees citizenship. You've got to serve for two years in some capacity in order to be able to vote.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And I've never actually outright said that's the way, like a lot of people have. But, man, when you see people at a Biden rally and Biden goes, shoot it on a shot with a pressure, and they go, what? And cheer for it. I'm like, man. Who thinks it's good that those people are going to vote? Well, they got the same thing, I think. Remember when Dr. Jill Biden was at an event, she tried to speak Spanish?
Starting point is 00:58:15 Yes. And everyone was like, that makes no sense. But they still applauded her. Yeah. What did she say? I don't know what she was trying to say. Yes, we can or something. Yeah. It was terrible. What did she say? I don't know what she was trying to say. Yes, we can or something. Yeah, it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Wow. People cheer for it. Yeah. That's why we have one of these pictures. It's right behind Ian, actually. No, no, to the left. One of my favorite pieces of artwork from George Alexopoulos. You can see it just to the left of you right there.
Starting point is 00:58:45 It's Joe Biden and a woman hands a little girl to Biden and the little girl is scared and terrified. But everyone around, they're all cheering. Biden then opens his gigantic monster mouth, 180 degrees, and holds the little girl over his mouth
Starting point is 00:58:59 and everyone's giving thumbs up. Then he consumes the little girl and then gives a thumbs up what i love about it is how everyone is celebrating behind him yes it's ridiculous silly uh what is it uh is that his name like horror-esque nonsense but what i think is really captured here is how biden could literally be saying gibberish and drooling on his mouth, and people are cheering for it. He said he was going to get us Batacath care, and people started going, yay! Like, I mean, sure, at least Trump, when he said build the wall, you understand what build the wall meant?
Starting point is 00:59:35 It's like, okay, we're not going to get a big, beautiful wall from Sea to Shining Sea, but at least that's a, like, there's... It's a thought. It's a thought. You can define words. It's a thought, yeah. It used to be such a – like a threat. There was such a threat in the world and we as the – we created this country to kind of, I mean, solve that. At least you saw World War II when Hitler started invading Poland and things when people were terrified that Nazi Germany was going to conquer the world.
Starting point is 01:00:04 It was like we had to rally and now now we've got this crap, and I don't want a threat. So the left says climate change, climate change, climate change. There was a really funny post. I can't remember who said it, but they were like Kamala Harris is going to address the border crisis, and they were like it's going to be climate change no matter what. And then Kamala Harris comes out and says, climate change is causing people to move. It's like, okay. Like, I think there's a – we had a really smart fellow on.
Starting point is 01:00:34 It was one of – a friend of Luke's. He was a PhD pathologist. And he said that there's insect species collapse. There's very serious problems. We're worried about it. And I'm like, I think we've got to be careful and protect the environment and do all these things. Now imagine these people are coming out and telling us there's this very serious crisis.
Starting point is 01:00:51 We have nine years left and they elect him. I'm like, I, you know, I'm, I'm sorry. It's very difficult to take you seriously. When you say we have nine years left until there's irreparable damage that
Starting point is 01:01:00 will cause, you know, bring about the end of days or just, you know, kill millions or whatever, or billions. And then this is your guy? Like the guy is, Batacath care has nothing to do with climate change.
Starting point is 01:01:10 What is he even talking about? And then to make it worse, you get like Obama buying beachfront property. So I'm like, y'all are making it really hard for me to advocate for this stuff. To like talk about why we should, you know, focus on green energy or nuclear or whatever. When they fly in private jets with massive mansions. And then they're like, the world's going to end. You know, Greta Thunberg being like, how dare you? And AOC being like, you know, we only have 12 years. Here you go, everybody. Joe Biden, he's the hero who's going to save you from this global catastrophe. Okay, now hold on. Now I kind of feel like they're laughing at us behind our backs.
Starting point is 01:01:44 They're like, and then I told them we had nine years left. So we put Biden in and they voted for the guy. And then everyone laughs and they're all like cracking champagne. And then we're sitting there in our living rooms like, so is this it? What do we do? Yeah. Well, it's a tough show. But you know what's so funny?
Starting point is 01:02:01 The president of Honduras was not that funny he actually came out and said back in 2018 or 19 that to stop so many people from fleeing you know south america if the united states would just do trade with us we could create so much more job opportunity and people wouldn't be leaving in droves as they are and then he said, if America just did 1% of their coffee with us, we would retain everyone. That's how much we could do. And so he says this at a conference and it's on video.
Starting point is 01:02:33 People, I've shared it and they still are just like, climate change. Oh my gosh, open the border. Political power. Political power. They want political power. I think there's a lot of conservatives who get it wrong.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I think Tucker Carlson did a segment where he said that the Democrats want the illegal immigrants to come in because they'll give them citizenship and then they vote for Democrats. I think it's a bit circuitous. It's probably true in some respect, but it's totally irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:03:02 California lets in illegal immigrants. These people appear on the census and they get more electoral votes for the presidency. They get more congressional district seats. So the more, it doesn't matter if these people vote. It just means they're going to get more seats in the federal government. And then the Democrats are going to have more votes to affect the entire country. So we got a problem. And I think, I think we're getting really close to decoupling.
Starting point is 01:03:24 I don't want to say peaceful divorce, as we're getting really close to decoupling. I don't want to say peaceful divorce, as some have called it, but decoupling. We see now that there's many different states declaring a Second Amendment sanctuary or pro-life sanctuaries. California is saying they're a sanctuary state. Everybody's just basically giving the middle finger to the federal government. If that keeps happening, then eventually there's no federal government. How long until, I don't know, Texas puts up borders between it and Oklahoma or whatever, and they're like, we're a sovereign state and we need borders now? I mean, we did see checkpoints from COVID already, so we're getting close, huh?
Starting point is 01:03:56 So am I crazy for thinking that these states and these cities making their own kind of rules and saying, for example, we're not going to enforce these gun control laws, am I crazy for thinking that that's a positive development? Because somebody pointed out to me that that's kind of what happened right before the Civil War, which I was like, I need to learn more about that. But as far as I can tell, cities and states doing their own thing seems like a positive, like a positive change, right? Am I crazy, Kim?
Starting point is 01:04:22 What do you think? No, yeah, but, you yeah, but at the same time, they're requesting so much federal funding, you know? And when we were talking about maybe two years ago, Trump was saying cutting off federal funding to California because they want to be sanctuary. I was, in my mind, I was kind of like, maybe that's the way to go, you know what I mean? Like if they really want to be sanctuary in just their own little state, their own little country, basically, then just, yeah, you can't get federal funding. I like the idea of kind of cutting the federal funding, even from maybe even cities like Portland. Like I think Trump was threatening to do that as well back in 2020.
Starting point is 01:04:56 But I think that's a good idea. Just kind of separate it out a little bit. So we have Biden. Yes. During this great catastrophe, they say, is coming. And what's going to happen next? So I've been saying that with liberals going back to sleep, they're not paying attention anymore. It's going to be really hard for Democrats to muster up something to fight in 2022.
Starting point is 01:05:15 So Republicans may actually take back the House in 2022, maybe even the Senate 2024, maybe the presidency. However, I actually don't think Trump should run i think desantis should run and the reason is donald trump they will immediately i mean he really gets the look there are people i know who have never voted who voted because of trump if you have desantis these people are going to be like who but my friends donald trump is back have you seen this here we. Here we go. From the desk of Donald J. Trump, Trump has invented his invented. He has created his own Twitter. No joke. DonaldJTrump.com slash desk.
Starting point is 01:05:53 And Trump has just created his own Twitter. And he basically posts, he posts, he posts like a microblogging like you'd be tweeting. And so he just made his own website it's too bad it's not integrated with like fediverse and mines and well he's not going to do this that's one of the biggest problems of the trump administration he should have done this a long time ago if he was internet savvy he'd still be president he would that's true if the republicans were paying attention they'd still they'd still have retained power but they let the big tech companies shut them all down. They let them censor all the most prominent Trump supporters. And there you go.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Now you end up with Trump's most prominent supporters is gone. That advocacy, that PR, that free press, gone. And Trump needed it. What's this website? Trump.com? DonaldJTrump.com slash desk. That's what it comes with. And you can actually post to Facebook and Twitter.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Huh. It took him a long time to actually make something very, very simple. It's another issue. I know. He should have had this during his presidency. And to be honest, he should have used, you know, Gab or Parler or something. Because then it would have forced the media to, you know. All of them.
Starting point is 01:07:02 He should have used all of them. It would have forced the media to cover these other platforms. And then people would have signed up for them. And then it would have taken away a lot of the power from the big tech oligarchs. It's unfortunate. There was an opportunity for it. It didn't happen. Well, I never loved everybody Trump surrounds himself with.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I'll be honest about that. But the same people are around him. They're just in Mar-a-Lago. They just all moved from the White House to Mar-a-Lago. Oh. It's like the same crew. So I think, you know, unfortunately, do you remember Brad Pascal? Parscale?
Starting point is 01:07:37 Parscale? Pascal? Parscale? Yeah. I think he was tech savvy, but then remember he left. So there was, yeah. Dramatically, yes. So yeah, so he hasn't been down a while ago.
Starting point is 01:07:50 So he hasn't been helping him, but I think that was his tech savvy guy. Why were you fired? I think it was over the Nebraska thing. Yeah. Where they had like a million RSVPs, and then Trump went to this rally and only like 6,000, 7,000 people showed up. And so they had this massive overflow. And the problem was that they told everyone to RSVP anyway just to show your support.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And so when they got a million RSVPs, they're like, wow, people really want to see Trump. And people didn't come. Who's fault is it? You know, 7,000 people I think showed up. Yeah. It's not bad, but it's not a million. I was humiliated. Trump, what he should have done is said because of COVID, we're all going to do a very small
Starting point is 01:08:27 gathering. And then he would have said, we sold out immediately. Instead, they said, we're going to have a million people. And then a million people didn't show up because he's like COVID. So yeah. Well, I also thought there were people getting fake tickets because it's free. You don't have to pay for it. Yeah, but there's an infinite number of tickets it was first come first serve so a bunch of these tiktok
Starting point is 01:08:49 kids were like we're the one who did it and tricked trump and it's like you you didn't you just helped them get press yeah claiming hit all these tickets because the tickets are free and it's first come first serve you show up they let you in if you have a ticket people didn't show up probably because of COVID. Yeah. Yeah. Well, over at Fox News, we have another story. Oh, snap.
Starting point is 01:09:16 House candidate suing FEC over inaction on complaint against Twitter says blue check of value in campaigns. So this all ties in. You know, Donald Trump has created his own website. I think it's a smart move. I think we should all do it. One of the reasons we started TimCast.com, and we should have started a long time ago, is that there are things YouTube doesn't allow us to talk about. There are certain opinions you can't say on Facebook and Twitter, and there's certain work you can't do. Project Veritas, doing respectable and legitimate journalism, they get removed for completely dubious reasons just total bs reasons they're made up now veritas is suing because of it this is interesting though a house candidate is suing
Starting point is 01:09:50 the fbc because they didn't do anything basically arguing that twitter giving blue check marks to their to her rivals was effectively giving them something of value to help their campaign and i think that's true yeah the verified check mark is an endorsement it's a straight up endorsement i saw a tweet today where someone was like and who are you mr i don't have a check mark why why should we even listen i was brutal where's my check mark twitter yeah because if you're verified you are an official personality of the of the uh i don't know of of mainstream culture whatever to describe it that's wild you've been knighted by Jack Dorsey. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Well, they wouldn't verify James O'Keefe. That's hideous. And he had almost a million followers and they banned him. Because they didn't want to endorse him. That's the funny thing about it. They're like, it's not an endorsement. But it's an endorsement. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Arbitrarily given by Twitter. Oh, yeah. Or if a corporation asks for it. Depending on the corporation. So I got verified on Twitter. When? How big was your channel? I had my channel.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Your Twitter page, rather. It's like 35,000 followers. Okay. And Vice called Twitter and said, verify him. Oh. That's it. The corporate in.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Yep. I got a job at Vice, and I wasn't verified, and there are people saying, like, you know, Tim Pool gets millions of views covering all these major events. He's been featuring all these magazines. Why won't Twitter verify him? Because I wasn't establishment approved.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I got a job advice and they went, we got you. Five minutes later, I was verified. Boom. That's how it works. So I was only verified because I was a candidate for Congress. What's interesting, though, is afterwards they actually took some blue checks away from some conservatives. Now Anna Paulina
Starting point is 01:11:28 remember she ran in Florida. She's the one saying. Oh okay. Because they wouldn't give her a blue check and she was a candidate and I'm like what is going on? So did you think that it helped you with your campaign to have a blue check? Do you find it useful? At least
Starting point is 01:11:44 they could verify me from the fake accounts. Right. It's not just that. You get special access. Oh, yes. And we could post longer videos. You could do, you know, you could message other blue checks. So, you know, excuse me.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Sorry, I have such a bad allergy. So, like, I could ask, you know, Bernice Owens or somebody else to share my post and also have blue checks because even if we don't follow each other, still I can communicate with them. Yeah. You can sort by verified.
Starting point is 01:12:15 There's a bunch of things you can do with verification you can't do. They're literally providing functionality to only certain candidates. Beyond that, this law in florida it's amazing i don't know if desantis has signed it yet i don't want to have to i don't want to have to do it but we might have to relocate to florida it's so muggy i know florida's awful
Starting point is 01:12:36 man why is it that they have a good governor you know he's trying to get people to go there because think about think about this this way for the people who live in the big cities in Florida, everything's open. You just walk around. You go to the movies. You do your thing. But now they're passing this law where if you're a journalistic enterprise that operates in Florida, you actually have grounds to sue to get your account unrestricted if these big tech companies try and stop you. If I was Zuckerberg, I'd be looking at ways to get out of Florida right now.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Sad. How do you not operate in Florida? Punish the citizenry for the idiot governor. Not that he's an idiot, but that would be my mentality. They would have to block all Florida IP addresses. And then what? Then make them suffer. No, they make them beg for acts.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Twitter? They wouldn't do it. I think they can do whatever they want. It would be about their bottom line. What's it going to cost the corporation? I think what would happen is if, you know, Florida passes this. I don't know if it's signed. I know it's passed the House and the Senate.
Starting point is 01:13:33 I don't know if the Senate has signed it. But I believe the moment he does, you're going to get, I mean, how many people live in the state of Florida? I don't know. Does anybody know? Let me look it up real quick. Check real quick. 33 million. Okay, let's check. Wild guess. Let's find out. 33 seems You want to look it up real quick? Check real quick. 33 million. Okay, let's see.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Wild guess. Let's find out. 33 seems a bit high. Really? Okay. I'm going to go with 24 million. That seems a bit high, too. Let's hear it.
Starting point is 01:13:51 It's 21.48. Oh, okay. So you were closer. Ian, you lose. I was way over. Okay, so how many of them are conservative? Right? It's a 50-50 conservative state.
Starting point is 01:14:00 So let's say about half. You've got 10 million people. How many of them are savvy and actually pay attention? Probably substantially less. Probably around 20% because that's what we see with Twitter user base. So now you have about two, we're looking at like two million people. How many of them can immediately just file a lawsuit against Facebook, Twitter as soon as this law is signed into effect? 20, 10.
Starting point is 01:14:19 10 of them are primed and ready to sue. And so Facebook is going to be dealing with an onslaught, Twitter, YouTube, they're going to be dealing with Google, with an onslaught of a whole bunch of regular people who don't have big accounts who all of a sudden are empowered by their government to file a challenge against these big tech companies. And Facebook's going to have to pay for it. Now, you mentioned that
Starting point is 01:14:38 these big companies, if you were Zuckerberg, would find a way to cut off Florida. I don't think so. You know why? Because if they did, the people in Florida would realize they don't need Facebook. All of a sudden, they would be like, my life is so much better. Facebook is awful.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Imagine if all of a sudden Twitter was gone from Florida. I might move there just for that. Because all of a sudden, people are going to be like, I'm not hearing the screaming anymore. And they're being, imagine someone being like, well, if you have a problem with doing hardcore drugs and maybe i
Starting point is 01:15:06 won't give you any more the drug dealer would be he's not gonna drug dealer's not gonna cut his own business off imagine facebook is also instagram imagine all the teen girls in florida miami who all of a sudden can't do instagram and they all of a sudden the depression alleviates they get back to their normal lives facebook can't have that facebook can't have large swaths of people all of a sudden realizing social media is a problem. So what do they do? Unban people. It's better to have Laura Loomer on Facebook than to cut 20 million users off, 21 million users, and then have people start realizing that social media sucks. I think social media is awesome.
Starting point is 01:15:41 But it's all in how you use it. You've got to get what you give with social media. 100%. I don't know. If it's going to cost them lawsuit after lawsuit and they end up having to pay billions of dollars in settlements for lawsuits, it might be cheaper. I don't know if they care much about the optics when it comes to the money. I think they would make a fiscal. It'll be interesting because there will be a federal challenge to it that it violates their free speech rights,
Starting point is 01:16:05 it violates Section 230, but it depends. You know, because we had Will Chamberlain on and he basically said the Supreme Court might defer to protecting speech rather than suppressing it. So if the option is, you know, this person is banned from platforms
Starting point is 01:16:19 so they can't speak and this company wants to restrict their speech, we should defer to the state law saying speech should be protected so allow them to have their platform it'll be really interesting but the law in florida can only affect florida so we need the 34 other republican controlled states to do the exact same thing so i guess if you live in a republican controlled state just start calling them and say just do whatever desantis is doing because he's he apparently is somebody who's paying attention, or at least has people who are paying attention.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Far from perfect, mind you. There's a bunch of things he's been heavily criticized for, and he should be. But there are many, like this social media thing, I think, is just absolutely imperative. On the other side, if Facebook didn't go that route, I think this could cause a lightning storm of behavioral change in governments across the country. Like state by state like next year we'd see two more states adopt this precedent yeah they should all be doing it right now yeah they're all you know look you live in one of these red states how long until
Starting point is 01:17:15 they bring in a far left district attorney because social media restricts the ability from of conservatives to warn about this stuff. You're a conservative. You're prominent. You're very active. And then you make a post and then you're gone. And then you can't warn people because they're not going to church to communicate. They're not going to the town city hall anymore, town hall. They're not going to city center.
Starting point is 01:17:38 They're going on Facebook. They're getting their information funneled through leftist, hardcore leftist organizations. San Francisco, I believe, is the most democratically isolated place in the country. The New York Times did this really interesting, are you in a bubble thing? And they say San Francisco is where you are unlikely to meet a Republican, extremely unlikely to find a Republican. So imagine those are the people who control social media. So if you live in West Virginia or Texas, don't be surprised when people believe insane far-left woke cult stuff because their opinions are being put through a far-left filter.
Starting point is 01:18:17 If Republicans in these states don't take action, you're going to be gone. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm like on the fence with it because it's like there's got to be another way I just I feel like I could just keep thinking on it but for me it's still it's leading toward big government and I just gotta
Starting point is 01:18:34 figure it out because now they're saying you know because I guess social media platforms you know are private correct and so if you're putting fines on these private companies you know where does it end say a democrat gets an office and decides to do the same thing to conservative private businesses protecting free speech or what yeah i just feel
Starting point is 01:19:01 like there's just there's got to be another way to hold them accountable. But I see what you're saying. I got a lot of people that push back on me for saying that, but I just – I don't know. The law says that they have to at least have, I think, 100 million active users. Okay. That's like three companies. So if you have massive multinational – I'll put it this way. One way to look at it is what's better, big government or a tech platform with foreign investors operating in foreign countries, allowing
Starting point is 01:19:28 foreign actors to influence our elections but conservatives get banned? Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Wikipedia, etc. allow Australians to post their unfettered leftist opinions on our platforms to influence Americans, but Laura Loomer's banned. I don't care how much
Starting point is 01:19:44 you don't like her. She's an American citizen, and her discourse matters infinitely more than a New Zealander. But that person in New Zealand can go on Twitter and post all the crazy leftist stuff they want. Laura Loomer can't. How come she got banned? Oh, man. A bunch
Starting point is 01:20:00 of different reasons, I guess. I don't know. I don't remember. Oh, for Twitter, it was because she criticized Ilhan Omar. Oh, yeah. don't know i don't remember oh for twitter was because she criticized ilhan omar oh yeah uh specifically about i can't remember exactly but had something to do with her religious practices or something and i think you should be allowed to criticize a politician well face to face a hundred percent that's a great part of being american and free speech is you're allowed to criticize each other well it's just yeah twitter is the platform by which we have political discourse it should be allowed. But regardless, if the answer is either we have a big American government or we have active participation in our elections from foreign citizens,
Starting point is 01:20:34 I'd rather have regulation from the American government as opposed to some, you know, how about this, a Russian guy going on Twitter and saying, Joe Biden is best. Vote for him. I'm like, okay, dude, you're allowed to have an opinion you're allowed to post but if we're going to allow foreign people to influence our elections by by actively posting stories and opinion and then ban american citizens because their opinion doesn't align with silicon valley you got a worse off problem than big government you've got some version of your state by foreign influence yeah yeah no i definitely
Starting point is 01:21:04 see where you're going with that. And I loved your Russian accent. That was the best. That was really good. It probably wasn't good at all. It was great. It's like a Russian guy who's watching. He's like, you're terrible!
Starting point is 01:21:15 I vote behind him. Yeah. Luke actually speaks Polish, so he could probably do it way better than we could. Yeah, but he could, huh? But he's got like a Brooklyn Polish accent. Did you ever see Rounders? No. The movie? It's a, what's his name? Matt Damon was in it. He's like a poker player with Ed Norton. And John Malkovich plays a Russian in accent. Did you ever see Rounders? The movie? It's a, what's his name?
Starting point is 01:21:25 Matt Damon was in it. He's like a poker player with Ed Norton. And John Malkovich plays a Russian in it. Oh, boy. Give the mian his miany. Oh, my gosh. Really, really great line. Mia?
Starting point is 01:21:34 It's terrible. Mia. Highly suggestive. We're going to jump over to this totally unrelated segment because we just got to talk about it, man. My friends, am I going to get in trouble if i say the end is nigh no i don't think so the end is nigh there we go u.s economy is growing quickly but flashing an inflation warning sign prices of goods we use every day are rising at their fastest pace in three years with coffee up eight percent bread up 11 and gasoline 22%. We got a chart here from Daily Mail. This is amazing.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Bacon, 11% increase. Unacceptable. I have a story about bacon. Bread is up 11%. Chicken is up 10%. Coffee, 8%. Eggs, 7%. Milk is only up 3%.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Gas is up 22%. Corn is up 44%. When corn goes up, everything goes up. You know why? Feed it to you. We feed cows and chickens and all the animals corn in these factory farms. Cotton is up 10%. Appliances 15%.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Furniture 3.5%. Dude, you know what really bothers me? All last year, I'm like, we're borrowing money for ourselves, these massive debt relief packages. The dollar is going to tank. Did I go and buy Bitcoin? No. I did. I did buy in November.
Starting point is 01:22:47 It takes eight months to catch up. We even talked about that last year. It's going to be eight months before inflation starts to rock. Yep. And so I'm just, this is the story of life for probably everybody. I bought, I was the guy who always jokes about the story of like in 2011, I almost bought thousands of Bitcoin at 70 cents a piece and I didn't. Ha ha ha. And then it was at like $200. I tell the guy who always jokes about the story of like in 2011, I almost bought thousands of Bitcoin at 70 cents a piece. And I didn't.
Starting point is 01:23:05 Ha, ha, ha. And then it was at like $200. I tell the same story. Then it's at $1,000. I tell the same story. Then it's at $5,000. And eventually it's just like maybe at some point I should just buy a lot of Bitcoin. I don't.
Starting point is 01:23:16 I don't. I just. And so now a year ago, I'm like the inflation is going to hit. You just you got out of it. Lumber is up between 250 and 600 percent. Oh, my God. Steel is skyrocketing. The price of everything is going to hit. You got out of hand. Lumber is up between 250 and 600%. Steel is skyrocketing. The price of everything is going up. Hyperinflation is a serious fear.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And we've got numerous reports that there's a market crash looming. So some investors are saying that they're bearish and they think a 30% hit to the market this year. So I hear all this. I report on all of this. I watch the ridiculous money money printing i didn't go i didn't buy any bitcoin but then you did a little bit you could have went deep i could have went deep i could have been like you still can i'm reporting on all this stuff and paying attention i should buy a lot and then so what happens is in november bitcoin's at fifteen thousand dollars
Starting point is 01:24:02 and i'm like wow that's so incredibly high. So maybe I'll just buy a little bit. And then it goes up to $40,000. I was like, wow, that's so incredibly high. I'm not going to buy anymore. Never high enough. This is $60,000. I can always print more money
Starting point is 01:24:16 and make the value of everything else go up. That's what's happening. Yeah. So there's going to be a big ripple effect and it's going to get bad. When you were given these numbers, 9%, 8%, 10%, is that in the last 12 months? Right now.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Are they up 10% from last year at this time? They don't say. It just says from labor statistics. Oh, okay. From last year, probably. Yeah. Yeah. I was looking up the inflation rate, and they're like, the inflation rate is 1.7%.
Starting point is 01:24:43 And I think that's just the rate that the Federal Reserve decides to charge interest at on their loans to the banks. So that's not the actual inflation. Actual inflation is very different than inflation rate. The rate is kept artificially low because they're like, we're only going to... But actual inflation, as you can see, the cost of goods are beginning to skyrocket. So I'm working. My office is downstairs from the studio one day,
Starting point is 01:25:06 a couple months ago, Ian knocks on the door and he's like, yo dude, I just bought a bunch of doge. And I was like, yeah, whatever. And you,
Starting point is 01:25:14 and Ian's like, it's like 5 cents. And I was like, yeah, whatever. It's like, I think it's going to go up, dude.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I'm worried. Cause like, no, no, you bought it like 9 cents, right? Yeah. Then it went down and you were like,
Starting point is 01:25:24 but I'm going to hold it and see what happens. I'm like, dude, I waited for this line. And then I'm like, Ian, get out of here! I don't care about your meme coin doge whatever nonsense. I'm not buying! And now it's at 60 cents. Or 60, so 57 at the beginning of the show. What is it? It hit 60.
Starting point is 01:25:39 You got the power of Elon Musk and Starship Mars behind it. Well, so, I think there's a couple things here. People are trying to find a place to put their dollars because you got buying power right now at the dollar, and we're watching it go down. Think about it. Let me do some simple math analogy for all y'all.
Starting point is 01:26:00 We have here on this Daily Mail thing, it says chicken up 10%. That means if you want to buy a chicken, you have to work 10% more than you did last year. So that means if a chicken normally takes one hour of labor, tack on another six minutes of that work you got to do. So that stuff adds up. Now you're looking at chicken, bread, bacon, everything. You've got to work 10% to 20% more. Corn is 44%. When that ripples through the chicken, because they feed chicken and cows and all this factory farm corn, and even fish, the price of everything is going to go up.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Because these factory farms are like, we need corn, but corn is really expensive. Okay, raise the price on everything else. You're going to be making, like, somebody who makes 15 bucks an hour right now could like buy three chickens and then now it's up 10%. Now you can only buy, you know, two and a half or something. You know what I mean? I'm not doing actual math. The point is all of these numbers mean you have to work longer to get the same thing.
Starting point is 01:26:59 So people are trying to find a place to take your existing buying power. Let's say for every hour you work, you can buy a chicken. So chicken so they're like okay all the currency i get from this work if i put it into bitcoin or something then when the hyperinflation hits i'll still be able to buy the same amount of chicken but if you hold the dollars you won't be able to that was my thought last year around may june july is when i really started going into crypto hard when i saw the big printing that they did last year that that two, four trillion printing. Oh, yeah. And it wasn't that I wanted to buy Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:27:28 It was that I wanted to park my money somewhere that wasn't going to get deflated. So I have a question. You might think I'm dumb for asking this, but genuine question about cryptocurrencies. When you put dollars, U.S. dollars into cryptocurrency, how do you get it out in a way that's not U.S. dollars? What do you mean? out in a way that's not US dollars? Like you're parking your money there to what end? How are you supposed to retrieve it when you need money? So there's Minds.com
Starting point is 01:27:52 M-I-N-D-S dot com. And they have tokens. These are ERC-20 tokens. They're built off of Ethereum, right? That's how it works here? Yeah. The ERC-20 blockchain is what they ride on. It's different than the Ethereum token. They're different. The blockchain is different.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Right, right, right. So you can have a Bitcoin or whatever. It's basically like me saying, here, Ian, I'll give you this for a dollar. And then Ian takes the bottle of water and gives me a dollar. And then Ian trades the bottle of water for a can of Pepsi. Okay. That's all it is. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:23 So it's just a different form. So cryptocurrency is basically just a non-copyable digital asset. You can trade for whatever you want to trade it for. The Oakland A's will let you buy tickets with Dogecoin. Oh, cool. As of yesterday. Wow. That's awesome. Now we're getting real. What if, what if, what if,
Starting point is 01:28:39 hold on, Bitcoin is like gold and Dogecoin becomes like cash. No, not like silver, like cash. Litecoin is like silver. You actually start printing out little things you can carry around. No, no, no, no, no. RFC, RFID chips. You get the Dogecoin app, and you just scan.
Starting point is 01:28:52 We're pretty much at the whole scan checkout line anyway. So think about it. I think Dogecoin will probably, in my opinion, first, let me just say I bought a bunch. I bought a bunch. I wish I bought substantially more. I did buy a ridiculous amount like seven years ago when it came out as a joke i i have no idea where it is and it's a lot huh yeah it's like an old computer and i was like yeah because it was like point zero zero what was it like zero zero zero one percenters i got so angry so when i saw it i couldn't bring myself. I hate refused it.
Starting point is 01:29:26 But what people need to realize too, when you see your crypto portfolio going up and you're cheering, that's actually scary because your buying power isn't going up. I mean, to a certain degree, it is obviously like a 10% increase in chicken, but a 1000% increase in Doge or whatever. Or like, what is what is ethereum up like 300 all sold it's like 3200 now yeah it was yeah so so 1700 a couple weeks ago well like when we had bill on the show last time bill altman it was a thousand bucks yeah for ethereum now it's at 3200 so yeah the gain in crypto is better than is higher than the inflation for most of these goods but would i think there was an article I read that said if you had $10 in lumber in November,
Starting point is 01:30:08 that would cost you $60 today. And I'm like, that's comparable to, like, Bitcoin. Wow, wood. I would have thought that. Building materials. It's going to get harder and harder to buy stuff, and there's just tons of shortages. But furniture is not worth more, you said. Maybe I
Starting point is 01:30:24 wonder if a lot of these things are being artificially kept cheap. Furniture is up 3.5. 3.5 only. Oh, furniture is up? Oh. This is going to get scary, man. I don't think people realize that what will first happen, all the goods are going to get more expensive. Construction materials are going to get more expensive.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Labor won't get as expensive as quickly. After the cost of food goes up, then people are going to be like, I need more money. Right. But businesses can't just snap their fingers and give more money i mean the leftists think they can but they can't now i'm sure starbucks and walmart can sort of but small businesses can't do that they small business is going to be like dude we're a coffee shop coffee's up eight percent i can't not we're already losing money now i can't just give you a raise we're already losing eight percent off the coffee but my groceries went up eight percent so you gotta spend 16 to take care of me now so then they have to increase the price of coffee by 16
Starting point is 01:31:15 or we do trade with honduras yeah there you go that's where our coffee that's a quick solution yeah yeah yeah i think I think Dogecoin is going to skyrocket, and people have done the math. Dogecoin isn't as, I guess, finite as Bitcoin. Yeah, what's up with that? So I don't know the full numbers, but I was reading something where they said Dogecoin is going to print a ridiculous amount as opposed to Bitcoin's, what, 21 million? Yeah, something like that. So that means there's going to be a massive supply of Dogecoin for trade. So Dogecoin could theoretically become like cash i was hearing that dogecoin automatically deflates every year like some of it is like splits or something from the circulation which is a very
Starting point is 01:31:55 interesting concept where does it go i just how does it get removed i don't know to be honest i just read that like no you're like here's my account i have 100 doge and it's gone why oh no like that works i don't know how that works. I don't know. Maybe it's in the mining when you make trades. They slowly pull it out of the circulation or something. I mean, you mean like the blockchains having? Or not mining rather, but gas fees and stuff.
Starting point is 01:32:15 Gas fees? Sometimes when you make it. Dogecoin is not Ethereum. Is it not on the ERC-20 blockchain? No. Dogecoin is a, I don't know if it's say a fork, but it's a clone of Bitcoin. Yeah, so this was made a long time ago. Interesting concept, though.
Starting point is 01:32:29 I used to think, what if we made a money that lost value if you didn't spend it, so that we're incentivized to keep it circulating? You mean like U.S. dollars? Yeah. But not so. Not like this. Not like this. Never like this.
Starting point is 01:32:41 What do you mean? It's exactly what it is. It's just more like if you and I each had $1,000 and I sat on it, and you spent yours and then made $1,000 more, you'd still have $1,000, but I'd have $990 at the end of the day. That's basically what the dollars do. So they want me to move it. Well, what's happening now is they're getting interest for holding it. I want to disincentivize people for holding it. That's what they do.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Well, they incentivize you to hold your money now. They want you to just get richer for having money. But you're not beating inflation. Yeah, you might not need inflation if you slowly deflated the currency over time. Deflated? Yeah, if people aren't spending and it slowly depreciates the value of the currency. You mean inflate the currency. Wait, what do you mean?
Starting point is 01:33:17 Well, so if you have $1,000 in the bank and a day goes by and you don't spend it, you may lose a percentage of that back to the pool. They do that. It's called negative interest rates. So that would incentivize people to keep the money flowing. Yeah. They do that sometimes when the market's really, really bad. They'll do negative interest rates where they're like, if you keep the money in the bank, you'll lose.
Starting point is 01:33:34 But rather than do it to everyone at once, just have that be built into the currency's function. Man, I wonder what's going to happen with this Doge stuff, man. It's going to be worth $1,000. Elon Musk is going to go on Saturday Night Live, and he's going to happen with this Doge stuff, man. It's going to be worth a thousand dollars. Elon Musk is going to go on Saturday Night Live, and he's going to be like, Dogecoin! And then it's going to hit a dollar. I hope he goes on with the dog. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:52 He's going to go on with the Shiba. Yeah. Yes. Maybe. So I think the reason Dogecoin is skyrocketing right now is because Elon Musk is going to go on, and they think he's going to do some Doge skit. It's going to cause the price to skyrocket. That's funny. Yeah. I'll tell you this um i'm never going to sell the doge hold it dude it's funnier
Starting point is 01:34:11 to have and i don't have enough to actually matter like i wish in 2014 i spent two grand on doge i think you tweeted out today there are doge millionaires i mean that's kind of obvious yeah but like there are probably a lot of them dude when doge went to like three or four cents i'm sure some person was like i'm gonna buy a ridiculous amount why not in the past i had purchased like tens of thousands of just garbage coins that were like erc20 tokens that were worth like an eighth of a cent red coin i don't know just like weird random trash and i was like hey maybe this will be the one. And I just never cared. And I forgot about all of them. I did have a bunch of Doge.
Starting point is 01:34:48 And it was worthless. This is what happens. Back in the day, you have like 50 bucks worth. And you're like, I don't care. Whatever. And back then, I mean, 50 bucks would end up being like, I don't know what, like 100 grand or something today in Dogecoin. Some ridiculous amount. Well, look, I don't know what's going to happen with all this inflation stuff.
Starting point is 01:35:08 They're trying to act like it's a good thing. It means wages will go up. They always do that before the Depression. If you look at the history of the Great Depression, the week before the stock market collapsed, they were talking about how great it was, what a good time to buy stocks it was, take out loans and buy stocks on loans,
Starting point is 01:35:23 post your earnings as collateral. Yeah, this is so annoying because the economy has way too many moving parts to say something is positive. You have no way of knowing if it's going to affect 15 other different things negatively. They can lie, too. They can blatantly tell you it's a safe, good time
Starting point is 01:35:37 for your investments and not get on the hook for it if it crashes. It's crazy. We're going to go to Super Chats. If you have not already, you must smash that like button if you truly enjoyed this show and subscribe to this channel and follow us on Instagram
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Starting point is 01:36:05 And now we will read your Super Chats. All right. Sam Trendy J says, Hi, Kim. What is your favorite aspect of the BLM movement? Much love from Vancouver, Canada. I find your interestingly inspiration to me. So thanks for that.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Aw, thank you. Hello to you. So BLM, he's if what do i like about blm what's your favorite aspect of the blm movement uh geez is there anything good about them i don't think so they're passionate they are passionate they are passionate um i guess they're good at organizing people. We don't seem to do very well on the conservative side. Very true.
Starting point is 01:36:50 There's that. Christopher Cavey says, Kim, you are my absolute hero for calling Joy Behar out on air and her own show. Thank you from Christopher Cavey. Thank you, Christopher. That day gave me so much joy. But honestly, I wanted to be so nice and polite that day gave me so much joy. That ends. But no, honestly, I wanted to be so nice and polite that day and then she just kept going and kept pushing my buttons
Starting point is 01:37:12 and I was just like, I've had enough, you know? And so I was happy to do it, but thank you. I appreciate that. Public service. Yeah. Pickle O. Pickler of Worlds.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Pickle O. Pickler of Worlds says says i just want to say thank you to the most wonderful woman ever thank you to my wife on our anniversary congratulations congratulations happy anniversaries you tried it they tried to get me on this one but they didn't do a good enough job so uh but i'm gonna read it anyway rampton, the first chat's name was Nightingale Maury, but did you know that Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, by Michael Knowles is available for pre-order? Also, I got my Tim Foyle gorilla shirt.
Starting point is 01:37:54 So I caught that one this time because they've been tricking me into promoting Michael Knowles' book. I love it. And it's hilarious. If you're a social media admin, you know. They'll start a thing off with real innocuous things and then slip in like, I'm not going there.
Starting point is 01:38:08 But I saw the Tim Foyle gorilla shirt at the end. And I was like, okay, they're buying the Tim shirt. We'll shout out Michael Knowles. So Michael Knowles' book, Speechless, is on sale for pre-order. It is, yeah. So I hear repeatedly. And we got to figure out what the next bit of merch is going to be. We got the Our Pillow is posted up right now.
Starting point is 01:38:26 So make sure you go to TimCast.com. Click store if you want to see all the crazy stuff. We got the tinfoil. No, no. The tinfoil grill is gone. But we do have the Diamond Hands gorilla. We need to make a Doge gorilla one. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Yeah, we need to make – maybe make the head Doge. Like the gorilla petting the dog? No, no, no. Like instead of a gorilla, it's just a super ripped Doge. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. That's Doge's public domain. it's just a super ripped doge. Yeah. I like that. That's Doge's public domain.
Starting point is 01:38:47 It's just a cartoon of a Shiba Inu. Yeah, it's just a dog. Yeah. And it'll say to the moon, and it'll be a Shiba. To Mars, yeah. Shiba in a suit. I think we can do that. It's got to be to Mars.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Wrestling a gorilla in space. Yeah, there you go. Just like the same art of the gorilla, but now it'll be a Shiba Inu in a suit holding money and a cigar. Yes. I think we could do it. We'll see. All right. Let's see some more super chats.
Starting point is 01:39:13 Nathan Kearney says, I'm in law school in Ireland. I desperately want to emigrate to America, especially to work with you guys. You guys accepting non-American applicants? I don't know. I know it's really hard to get a visa, to get a work visa for people. What is it called? Green card?
Starting point is 01:39:29 No, no, no. The work visas for non-Americans. It's almost impossible because you have to prove that you need someone who's not in the United States. Right. So if you're trying to hire someone to do video editing,
Starting point is 01:39:41 you've got to be like, well, they only live here and I can't hire them here. But that's really difficult to do. We editing you gotta be like well they only live here and i can't hire them here because we don't but that's really difficult to do and i you know we want to hire people here that's the that's what we gotta do tom echo says got my signed tom mcdonald albums the other day he changed my message a bit but it reads brie i will do my best to be on the timcast irl show this year and he underlined best. Hell yeah. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Hey, thanks for that. We'd love to have Tom on the show. That'd be epic. I hope we can. Ernie G says, great guest and cast. This makes me think of Jury Duty with Pauly Shore, BLM to the Chauvin trial, Deep Fry.
Starting point is 01:40:19 His, yeah. Okay, we'll leave it there. His booty. All right. Connor O'Brien said, had anti-AAPI violence call at work today 1.5 hours blm and police brutality against bipoc mentioned five times speakers stated riding king riots were systemic systemically racist against asian community intersectional insanity man you know look if it were me i would just i would interrupt these and I would accuse everything they say of being racist.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Just like if they were like, look, you're not going to get a white person on some HR department being like, we think that the – oh, excuse me. I'm actually of Asian descent and I want to point out how racist it is, everything you're saying. And if you continue with this racism, I'm going to file an EEOC complaint. What are they going to do? They're going to be like, we have to do it. Okay, I'm going to file an EEOC complaint. What are they going to do? They're going to be like, we have to do it. Okay, I'm going to be filing that complaint. You ignored me. That's the problem with this intersectional insanity.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Right. Everyone can basically complain. More people like Tim. Raymond Fields says, I donated to Kim's campaign. Please run again when the time comes. We need more prominent black voices like yours in Congress. Thank you so much for donating.
Starting point is 01:41:26 Like, I don't know how so many people across the country were just so interested in helping Baltimore. I guess, you know, they see the video and they said, you know what? We want to do something. And we kept getting letters, too, with every donation. They're like, I can't really afford this, but I'm sending you my last 20 bucks. And, you know, it's like, of course, we're going to keep fighting. We left some money in the bank so we could fight again. And I definitely appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Hopefully we can get out there soon. But that's why the PAC is important too. So we can really focus on flipping the house. What is it? The PAC? What's it called? Red Renaissance. Can people go online?
Starting point is 01:42:02 RedRenaissance.com. Yep. And you'll see our candidates there with their bios and then links to their websites. And so you can donate directly to them as well. I saw somebody asking in chat why you guys are promoting these minority figures instead of just like all the good candidates. And I was like, we need minority figures to show that everyone is interested in America first.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Right. We're not just, you know, against each against each other on some kind of racial divide. I think it's super important. We have some candidates that would be considered labeled minorities, but for us, sometimes you've got to fight fire with fire.
Starting point is 01:42:38 The Democrats are always going to call the Republican racist if we don't start reaching out to these communities. Tim Scott. Me, myself, I know someone was asking in the chat, but you know, I'm a black woman and I felt like I did not get support from the GOP.
Starting point is 01:42:54 And so I know what it feels like. And so I wanted to get out there and just support, you know, others. And we have a lot of good PACs that support everybody. Club for Growth is good. Elise Stefanotik has a great pack. Oh, cool. You know, so I really don't think it's just minorities that are being supported this time around.
Starting point is 01:43:10 We're just making sure that everybody is supported and we just get it through and then focus on taking the White House back in 2024. Yeah. Right on. Jordan says, hey, Tim and crew, I'm wanting to read more. Can you recommend a book that has been influential to you? Also, have you thought about inviting Lucas Botkin of the Trex Arms onto the show? I believe that you will have a great conversation
Starting point is 01:43:30 around 2A with him. We will look into him. A book that has been influential to me, there's a book series that it's really, really great. It's meme-worthy and it's influential. It's got great characters. It's about this family and they have a baby.
Starting point is 01:43:47 And then there's this bad guy, this evil guy. He's a wizard, and he comes. And he wants to kill the baby because of a prophecy, but the spell rebounds and leaves a lightning bolt scar on his head. It's one of the greatest book series ever written, and Millennials is the only book that can reference, so that's why I'm referencing it. I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Oh, I know what you're talking about. Oh, I know what you're talking about. I would recommend Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton, but then the movie came out, so it might not be the same experience I had. I read it before the movie. Fantastic literature. I would say, so I can't remember what the book is called, but I read Stephen King's collection of shorts. I wouldn't call it influential, but I enjoyed Secret enjoyed secret window the movie very different from the book the book was like it's a short story what the story was like creepy and legit and movie was kind of just like okay yeah i think
Starting point is 01:44:36 that's how jurassic park turned out yeah the book was amazing yeah uh just so visceral. Read manga. Read manga. What about you, Kim? Yeah. So I read a lot of autobiographies. Oh, nice. That's kind of what interests me. Believe it or not, I'm not a huge fan of the late John McCain, but I loved his book. Not a huge fan. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:44:56 Yeah. What was it about? Just his whole life story. You know, when he went to war. He did. Yeah. He had a interesting life, dude. When he was being waterboarded like when you read about that
Starting point is 01:45:07 section alone you're like gosh this guy's been through everything yeah so all right black czar says appellate courts bend over backwards to uphold criminal verdicts just read some judgments x was bad but it wasn't bad enough to have affected the verdict is a is the common refrain and that's in normal cases do not not expect much for Chauvin. No, they're going to be like, we understand the whole thing was corrupt and crooked, but we're going to throw him in the hole anyway. The Lukewarm Gamer says, last episode
Starting point is 01:45:37 you said you don't know if you could kill someone in self-defense because ending a unique human would be too hard. That sounds quite pro-life of you. Maybe you're having a realization. Uh, you mischaracterize what I said. I didn't say that. I didn't know if I could kill someone. I said that I would prefer to use the last round in my 12 gauge would be rubber buck to give someone a fair warning, which could put me at risk. But, uh, I, if I have to defend myself and my friends and my family, no question. I won't
Starting point is 01:46:07 hesitate. I don't know if you guys have any thoughts. Well, one time I caught a mouse in my apartment, and it was with a glue trap, and I didn't realize how horrible those were. And I found the mouse and he basically tried to tear himself off the glue trap and ripped his own leg off trying to get off. And he was suffering and dying, so I had to take him outside
Starting point is 01:46:24 and put him out of his misery. And I it with a napkin i got a bag of dirt from the trash and i just started smashing him and i just kept on him bro i kept going and going and going and going because i wanted to make sure it was dead to stop his suffering so i hear these things were like a man stabbed a woman 28 times and you're like what the it's because he wanted to make sure she wasn't suffering. Crazy. What? Crazy what people can become when they become killers.
Starting point is 01:46:48 What, she wasn't suffering? No, so they want to kill her. I think it might be to make sure she's dead, but part of it is to just end it as fast as possible. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:46:56 At least that's what it was for me. Your story is putting a mouse out of his misery. You're right. A murderer brutally murdering a woman is like... Could be unrelated. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 01:47:03 he's just murdering somebody. But, you know, if you've got to become that, I would never suggest it, but man, when people go into war and you listen to them tell stories afterwards, you're not...
Starting point is 01:47:12 I mean, you're still human, but humans are wild animals. All right, Remy says, Tim, I'm a security guard working in Baltimore. Now that they're not prosecuting low-level crime, my job is getting hectic
Starting point is 01:47:22 because the crazies know the cops aren't going to come if I call. Glad to see you, Kim. You had my vote. Aw, thank you, Remy. Yeah, that's the big problem. It's a big problem.
Starting point is 01:47:32 And it's so crazy that our state's attorney was just like, well, we just got to get those off the docket. They're wasting our time. You know, low-level crimes are still crime. And it's crazy to me. But thank you so much. We got to fight to also get her out of office as well in my opinion aunt michael says the fifth amendment states no right may be deprived but through due process which means rights can be deprived provided it's through due process i
Starting point is 01:47:59 would not want my daughter's rapist to be allowed to possess a gun i don't like personalized moral arguments about you know this person victimized me therefore that should be determination about everyone else's right to keep in bare arms but i understand your point i just think that justice is supposed to be blind i don't know if that's the correct understanding of what it means by just being blind but my understanding is that it's supposed to be that everyone is treated equally under the law. And I think, I guess the issue is a lifetime ban on things I'm not a fan of. But maybe the issue is, I don't know. I think our prison system doesn't actually reform or rehabilitate or actually deal with any of the problems of violent offenders.
Starting point is 01:48:46 We just lock them up and then say, okay, long enough, you're free to go, and it doesn't change anything, it doesn't change the person. And therein lies the bigger problem, I suppose. I don't know. If we're going to argue that this is what you have to do to pay penance to society, but your rights will still be deprived, then we're giving people a life sentence. I was thinking we could put webcams in prisons with
Starting point is 01:49:02 the prisoners so that they could communicate with their friends and family over watch of guard. They can, though. What do you mean? Well, just like 24. They'd have time. Whenever they want. Yeah, like within reason.
Starting point is 01:49:12 And talk with a psychologist. So to keep them sane, healthy, and hopefully a better person when they finish their sentence. McHatton says, have you guys heard of Dark Journalist? UFOs, Atlanta, CIA, lots of solid info about thing in the present and past. Trump connected to Nikola Tesla and Van Aver Bush. UFO files are at the center.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Interesting. Cookie Monster says, you're really behind on the conspiracy UFO stuff. You have to have on Dr. Stephen Greer to get up to speed with what's really up with UFOs. That is birds. Oh, I heard that. Dr Stephen Greer to get up to speed with what's really up with UFOs. That is birds. Oh, I heard that.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Dr. Greer. Yeah, I heard that one. Sonny James says, Tim, I disagreeeth. Talksing. Taxing. Okay. Anyone making over 400K. Let Biden.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Where are these entrepreneurs going to run to? LOL. Look at Jack Ma. Every other country's business married to government why shouldn't ours be musk learned this too so we shouldn't tax people making over 400k i think we should be taxing the rich a lot of money i just don't the problem is that's a half-baked solution the government just getting more money doesn't solve any problems that's also a problem. Not having a bunch of rich people manipulate our elections and also, I don't understand why people really care about
Starting point is 01:50:30 the rich people. I don't get it. Like, oh no, Bezos, he's got so much money. The wealth tax is stupid. It makes no sense. Don't get me wrong. But it's really weird for me to see people being like, I think Tom Steyer should have more billions of dollars to elect Democratic DAs to subvert the will of the working class and take away our gun rights.
Starting point is 01:50:47 I'm like, I don't. I think it's like wishful thinking. I think they think one day they're going to be the rich, the wealthy. And so they're like, we don't want this because one day my day will come. I don't even think that even, honestly. Because I know a lot of rich people. They don't care. They're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:03 I pay taxes. And I'm like, no people. They don't care. They're like, I don't know. I pay taxes. And I'm like, yeah, and they don't care. They're like, do you like when you have five million dollars and you pay, you know, to to like two point two million taxes? They're like, I don't know. I have two million dollars in cash. They don't even look at it. Most of the CPA handles it.
Starting point is 01:51:16 And they say, this is how much you owe. And they say, OK, goodbye. Yeah, right. So it's weird that like we've got a problem with mostly left-wing ultra-billionaires screwing up everything. And it's the conservatives defending them. Yeah, Bloomberg's not a good person. Tom Steyer's not a good person. George Soros is not a good person.
Starting point is 01:51:32 The Koch brothers, not fans either. But, you know, they did the Cato Institute, so I'll give them respect for that. All right. Where are we at? Uh-oh. Trinan on a shot but a pressure. NameChanger says, Tim, it's code for help me. They are pressuring me.
Starting point is 01:51:45 They got a tape of me with young Dems. It's not what you think. I'm a good guy. Help. Reminds me of Rick and Morty when Bird Person is like, you know that phrase that Rick says, wubba lubba dub dub. That means help. I am depressed or something like that.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Yeah, yeah. Biden was trying to say true international diplomacy through pressure. True to not a shabba. But why is there a shaba yeah shaba true national oh that's it from the national okay okay true international true and anana no it still doesn't make i don't know man crinson says i live in texas and i was seeing if my managers enforced the mask policy eight days of not wearing a mask at all only one mentioned one day others wear it wrong and nothing should i keep going and see where it leads me you should follow the rules follow all the rules follow your local ordinances no example says tim you guys are talking about starship troopers being possible while dealing with a starship Troopers administration. Long live Lord Emperor Trump.
Starting point is 01:52:47 Not about being possible. I was just making a point that, like, the more I see people cheering on Trinidad and Chabot of Pressure, I'm like, maybe we need service to guarantee citizenship. But, you know, maybe not. I don't know. Far be it from me. Roger Gregor says, longtime watcher, you all rock. In New York, you can vote as felons as soon as you leave prison and relief of disability gets some gun rights back oh interesting i believe it's
Starting point is 01:53:11 is it new hampshire where you can actually vote while still in prison oh wow yeah there's like three states that does it interesting yeah not yet shall worry no more says i'm a huge conservative but police need to go and people take responsibility for themselves. The country is going to develop into two no matter what. That's what they want. I think it's better not to fight it and move when the time comes. I feel like the country is breaking apart and the left is screaming defund the police because as soon as the police are gone, the decoupling is instant. And conservatives are actually disadvantaging themselves by supporting a decaying – a system in decay. And if they – it's like, man, the far left has already jumped off the cliff.
Starting point is 01:53:54 They're base jumping as fast as they can. They got their wingsuit ready to go. And conservatives are holding on saying like, no, no, no. We're not going to go. We're not going to go. It's like, well, they're going to win the race. My concern with what this guy said is that, yeah, like getting rid of the police or something, insinuating that, and then personal responsibility, yeah, but I have a feeling you've never been in war. I've never been in war, but I've studied it a lot.
Starting point is 01:54:18 And when you see these numbers of, like, 17,000 men came from the West with 8,000 dudes on horseback, your personal responsibility is not going to protect you if we get invaded. You need social order and protection. So that's what policing is, basically. I mean, not for war. Well, last resort, yeah, they would fight. National Guard would be deployed. Yeah, but last resort.
Starting point is 01:54:41 You'd have, like, militia and local cops. I don't think war is what you think it is, Ian. Well, I've just been stunning a lot of battlefield tactics, and it's tens of thousands of people moving at once. And that's like no individual can prevent that. Maybe thousands of years ago. Even like a couple hundred years ago. The U.S. wins through air superiority. It can decimate through air superiority, but it can only really win by taking control.
Starting point is 01:55:04 But we don't have 10,000 troops marching in the desert towards the Taliban. But the Chinese have lots and lots of soldiers. We don't do that.
Starting point is 01:55:11 I mean, in World War II we actually had U-boats storming the beaches. But in terms of... You look at the videos out of Syria, you look at videos from the Middle East
Starting point is 01:55:19 and based on the stuff I've seen in urban conflict, you can walk past a war zone and they're not going to touch you. Like, there are literally people who are like carrying baskets of water as bullets are flying because they're not a target for the war. I mean, what other choice do you have? It's still extremely risky.
Starting point is 01:55:34 And some of these people, often they get hurt. People flee because the collateral damage is so high. But I've been in tons of foreign urban conflict situations where they completely ignore me. I have nothing to do with their conflict you can get this you know you can get hit as a bystander so you don't want to be there but i've watched the apcs roll in you know and and they do their thing and they ignore you you're not you're not part of their conflict that's not true everywhere some places might find out you're an american and then kidnap you because they can use it as leverage. But it's not what people think it is.
Starting point is 01:56:06 No, I can only imagine. Modern War. It's never what you think it's going to be. That's what they tell you. Sam T says, I'm getting a Dogecoin rocket tattoo Thursday. Cheers from Denver. Ian rocks. Alright. Have fun with that. Yeah. To the moon. Kim Dobbs says, you keep talking about fishing by the river.
Starting point is 01:56:22 Why not make a Timcast fishing rod? LOL. I haven't actually gone fishing in a very, very long time. We've got to do that. I think we were talking about growing fish here. Growing fish? Hydroponic, is that what it's called? Growing fish? Growing, like in a pond to help clean the water. I don't think that's hydroponics.
Starting point is 01:56:37 It's called something like that. A fishery? Sand farm? Tracy Burt says, thank you so much for the millions I got from all the coins I found on your laptop when we worked together. I know you've been looking for that machine and that it was wrong of me to not return it to you, but you know. I actually think the computer might be here somewhere.
Starting point is 01:56:55 Yeah, I think it might be. No idea. Nice. Whatever. We'll find it. But, you know, whatever. I have a whole bunch of applications for when all these different currencies popped up and I was downloading the original apps to run and mine them aquaponics yes aquaponics oh so cool jay park says can you have jordan peterson on the show i'd love to have jordan peterson on the show but i think he's trapped in canada
Starting point is 01:57:20 so super busy as well nicholas nasty says crypto will not protect you they can always print more coins silver or gold is the only way to protect your wealth i would say only but uh absolutely i have gold and silver yeah definitely i i've had gold and silver longer than i've had cryptocurrency for obvious reasons it's been around but uh i don't have as much gold or silver because it's a lot easier to acquire crypto than it is gold and silver. And with a good crypto, well, I don't know, but a lot of cryptos, there are only a finite number of coins. They'll tell you ahead of time how many they're going to make. You can look at the code.
Starting point is 01:57:54 You can look, but they can always fork a Bitcoin or something, and there can be some change made. All right. Timmy Hill says, Maybe Tim should take the same advice you give cops and quit YouTube and Twitter in protest of their censorship. If enough people quit, they might change their ways. I guess if we are at the point where the system was completely untenable and I wasn't allowed to criticize the media at all anymore sure like if youtube came to me and said from now on you're only allowed to say things to support progressives and you can't say any of your any any opinions that are pro conservative i'd be like okay i quit you know what i'd leave what if they said no matt weren't don't worry everything's fine and then they demonetized your video and then the next time they're like we're not going to do that anymore and then they demonetize you again and again and again and they
Starting point is 01:58:43 kept telling you we're not going to keep gaslighting we're not going to demon that anymore. And then they demonetize you again and again and again. And they kept telling you, we're not going to keep gaslighting. We're not going to demonetize you. But they kept demonetizing you. How long before you leave? Like a day. Yeah. That's what's going on with these cops. They keep making arrests and the people are getting let go.
Starting point is 01:58:54 And they keep going back to work. And they're told, like, hey, do your job. I'll keep putting my hand in the fire and it won't burn. So right now the problem is the situation police in these big cities are in is that they're basically enforcing a law that only ever gets applied against regular people, people who want to go to church, people who want to open their business, conservatives and Antifa, except for, you know, the most extreme offenders are getting cut loose over and over again, even when they admit they attacked a federal officer.
Starting point is 01:59:23 So it got to the point where no matter what you do, you're only empowering lunatics and you stop. However, on this show and on my social media, I actually do the opposite of that. So I'm actually heavily critical of the media establishment and able to do so. So I think it's not the same at all. Dennis Gregerson says,
Starting point is 01:59:43 Kim Klesik as VP would she I think it would be great that would be great on whose ticket oh that's a good question yeah we're your top three I love Governor Ron DeSantis I honestly I
Starting point is 01:59:59 thought Governor Ron DeSantis and Senator Tim Scott ticket would be a good one yeah I think that'd be great. But, yeah, I don't know who else, honestly. We've got to have some better frontrunners in the Republican Party. I mean, obviously the Democrats don't have any money, but sometimes I look at ours and I'm like, who do we have? All right. Bill P. says, the notice came out this morning.
Starting point is 02:00:21 The transition from the SWIFT financial system to the quantum financial system has now been completed. Ian should be thrilled. Dude. Is that true? I don't know, but I'm looking it up right now. Thank you. Interesting. The quantum financial system?
Starting point is 02:00:32 Wow. That sounds good. All right. Let's see. We'll do a couple more maybe. Ideology says, glad to see Kim on. As for Doge, it's an inflationary coin. It has no cap.
Starting point is 02:00:45 It will most likely mimic cash if fully adopted. You all really need to get a crypto expert on like George from Crypto R Us. P.S. Ideology to the moon. Max Kaiser and Stacy. You guys know Max and Stacy. When are they coming on? Next Monday. Next Monday.
Starting point is 02:01:00 Yeah. Max and Stacy are awesome. They are great people. I'm going to be very excited. And we're going to talk all about all this stuff. It should be interesting. Yeah. Max and Stacy are awesome. They are great people. I'm going to be very excited, and we're going to talk all about all this stuff, and it should be interesting. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure they'll have a similar opinion of like Doge's trash. Yeah, I don't think Max doesn't like a lot of the altcoins.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Interesting. I'm going to go deep on him. He doesn't call them altcoins either. Yeah. I have an idea of what he might call them. Yep. All right. Let's see. I have an idea of what he might call me. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Let's see. Roberto Duren says, love your energy and attitude. Kimberly, we need you in government. Oh, thank you. I feel like I'm like halfway here tonight just because I have like my allergies are so bad. But no, I really appreciate it. You know, hopefully, you know, like I said, I'll work through 22 and we'll still try to make some ground in grassroots efforts and 24,
Starting point is 02:01:50 you never know what's going to happen. But obviously, we got to still keep chipping away on the ground, no matter what. But I do appreciate the vote of confidence. Elijah Zepeda says, Candace Owens just asked Trump if she can be his running mate on her show. I saw that. Is that true? I saw it, but he said, I have an announcement coming up, and that's all he said to her.
Starting point is 02:02:10 Wow. Was she seriously? It looked pretty serious, but you know what? Who knows? I don't know if Candace would be serious about running. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:02:22 All right. Silently in Atlanta says, Tim, may I thank you for promoting Doge? I've tripled my force because of you. I'll get a gorilla shirt when it reaches five times. Love, Kim. You are Baltimore's new hope. It's what the dark side lacks. New notion I learned is requisite variety.
Starting point is 02:02:38 May the fourth be with you. Well, I'm not trying to promote Doge so much as just like talking about what's going on. But yeah. Well, my my friends if you haven't already please smash that like button and subscribe to this channel and more importantly share the show with your friends if you really do like it you can follow us on Instagram and Facebook
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Starting point is 02:03:51 yeah if you can go to the PAX website redrennaissance.com you can follow me on Twitter Kim K Baltimore Instagram YouTube and Facebook is Kimberly Klasick and yeah hopefully we'll start doing some more stuff in the future and I just want people to understand, like don't give up hope.
Starting point is 02:04:08 You know, in 2008, we were kind of in the same position. We lost the Senate, we lost the House, we lost the White House, but you know, we came back strong with someone like President Trump. So I think we could do it again. Right on. Thank you. Hey, confirmation Swift rebranded as Quantum Financial Swift. I think they may be looking to use time crystals to transmit information. Yeah, check out time crystals, everyone.
Starting point is 02:04:30 Interesting. It's going to blow your mind. You can also follow me at iancrossland.net and at Ian Crossland along social media channels. Great to see you, Kim. Good to do this. Thank you. And I am going to have to go investigate these time crystals being used for the monetary system. I am Sour Patch Lids on Twitter.
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