Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #280 - Facebook's Fake Oversight Board Says BAN TRUMP, Upholds Censorship w/Allum Bokhari

Episode Date: May 6, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host tech author and Breitbart journalist Allum Bokhari to discuss the breaking news of Donald Trump's rejection by Facebook's 'independent' board, the Texas GOP's choice to delete... their Gab account, BLM's demands and insistence that Trump never be allowed on a big tech platform again, and the Great Reset and possible pending economic collapse.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Facebook's fake oversight board, whatever that is supposed to be, a group of a bunch of leftists who are supposedly giving Facebook oversight, have done not that and said Donald Trump should stay banned. But, you know, how about you decide, Mark Zuckerberg, because it's a big, fat waste of time. And we knew that was going to be the case. They'd give us nothing definitive. Trump is banned. The sitting president was banned. He can't come back. He's probably he literally is the most prominent candidate for 2024, assuming he will announce he's running. Yet still, he will be banned because,
Starting point is 00:00:29 you know, we live in an oligopoly. And the Republicans just come out and go, oh, geez, oh, man, oh, I can't believe this is happening. I'm so surprised. You know, we're going to fight tooth and nail because they didn't when they could. They're certainly not going to do it now. But now it's really easy because they can pretend like they can or they're going to, even though they can't because they have no power in government right now. So it seems like a big fat waste of time. But interestingly, Black Lives Matter has a new list of demands, one of which is that Trump must be banned.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I have no idea what that has to do with saving lives, I guess. Maybe Black Lives Matter is just a political organization that is helping the Democrats. So we'll talk all about that, I suppose. But we've got probably one of the foremost experts on big tech censorship. Alan Bakari is joining us. How's it going, man? You want to introduce yourself? How's it going?
Starting point is 00:01:15 I'm Alan Bakari. I'm the senior tech correspondent for Breitbart News. I've been covering tech since 2015 when no one could imagine that a president might be censored on social media. When the left loved technology because Facebook allegedly elected Barack Obama. And I also wrote the book Deleted, Big Tech's Battle
Starting point is 00:01:35 to Erase the Trump Movement and Steal the Election. You can follow me on Twitter at LibertarianBlue. That's an old Twitter handle which I can't change. I'm not really a libertarian. There you go.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Ian's chilling. You used to be a libertarian 2015 everyone was libertarian you know the ron the ron paul age before donald trump the only guy who was worth supporting was ron paul uh so that's true what's up everybody in crossland in the house you can call some dot net thanks for coming yeah and i'm in the corner as well pushing buttons for this cool show we got a bunch of crazy stuff because we were talking about, just before the show, you mentioned the Florida bill on anti-censorship was actually garbage. I wouldn't go as far as saying it was garbage, but it could have gone a lot further than it did. Right on. So we'll get into all that. There's a lot to talk about. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Click that big old beautiful members-only button. Sign up and then go to the members area where you can see a whole bunch of amazing members only exclusive segments. We were talking with Kimberly Klesik the other day. She said Black Lives Matter was a communist organization, most mostly a response to what many Chinese donors were saying. They were giving money to the Proud Boys because they fear that Black Lives Matter is trying to stage a communist revolution in the United States. And so we talked to Kimberly Klesik about it. And she spoke a lot about how the democratic policies have been just a disaster for black families. So go to TimCast.com. Sign up if you want to see segments like that. Let's talk about Gina Carano. We got Jack Murphy. We got Drew Hernandez. A lot of really great conversations.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And don't forget to like, share, subscribe. Hit that notification bell and share the show with your friends if you really like it. Leave us five stars on iTunes, Spotify, and good reviews. Let's get into that first story. We got CNN. Good old trusty CNN. Facebook tried to punt the Trump decision that backfired. It's an interesting take. They say the Facebook oversight board was designed to make some of Facebook's most difficult
Starting point is 00:03:19 decisions for the company. But on Wednesday, the board put one of the biggest dilemmas facing the platform back on Facebook and company CEO Mark Zuckerberg. The board said Facebook was right to suspend Trump in the immediate aftermath of the insurrection. But Facebook couldn't just make the suspension indefinite with no actual rule on its book. So basically, everybody was waiting for this huge moment. Was this supposedly independent body going to say Donald Trump should be allowed back on? Instead, they were like, well, I mean, Mark, you decide. So there's no real point to having them. We knew this was going to be the case.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We know that – let me just slow down. Is anyone really surprised? I'm surprised people are like, well, this is crazy. A sitting president was banned yeah he was banned four months ago what are you talking about how is this news yeah i mean did anyone really expect this facebook oversight board staffed entirely by anti-trump figures uh people who compared trump to hitler in one case was ever going to come to any other conclusion of course they're going to uphold the ban and what they've done is they've essentially passed the
Starting point is 00:04:22 buck back to facebook saying you know well in in six months you have to make a final decision it's it's in your court now so facebook already made their final decision yeah the oversight board was supposed to be the special thing but i'm i just love how how stupid so many people are when they were like first of all the journalists who are like oh no oh what what if what if they overturn trump's ban oh geez but then you have these these gop guys these these congressmen and women who are like i can't believe they made this decision uh we gotta break up these companies it's it's all meaningless it's a big meaningless waste of our time yeah what's the gop gonna do at the national level they don't hold power when they
Starting point is 00:05:00 did hold power they didn't do any do much about it i will say the trump administration was on the verge of doing something about it in the final year, but the final year was too late. They should have acted 2017, 2018 when people started getting banned from these platforms. The only hope on a political level now is at the state level. And, you know, Texas has an interesting bill. Florida has a could-be-worse bill, I guess. Is it better than nothing? It's better than nothing.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It does impose some transparency requirements on the tech companies, which, unlike the rest of the bill, can actually be enforced. But the Texas bill actually is very interesting, and Senate Bill 12 in Texas, that's worth taking a look at. What is that going to do? So unlike the Florida bill, the Texas bill has a general provision against viewpoint-based censorship that doesn't mention the word common carrier or public accommodation, which are the two laws you can use to regulate businesses and, you know, restrict who they can and cannot deny service to. But it functions in much the same way. And the reason why that's important is because unless there are only like a few legal routes,
Starting point is 00:06:01 and, you know, I'll preface it by saying I'm not a lawyer, but there's only a few legal routes you can go to tell a business who they can and cannot deny service to or whose speech they can and cannot host. Because otherwise, I'll just say, well, we're businesses. Businesses are considered persons by U.S. law. Therefore, we have First Amendment rights to host the viewpoint we want and to censor the viewpoints we want. But there are certain types of businesses that can't do that uh common carriers have to provide access to everyone on a reasonable non-discriminatory basis uh public accommodations have to do the same under civil rights law there are also state laws like california's unruh law which is very wide ranging and has actually been used uh in in viewpoint discrimination cases successfully to say no businesses can't exclude
Starting point is 00:06:44 people like even small businesses kind of the unruh laws the unruh law that's a california law in viewpoint discrimination caters successfully to say, no, businesses can't exclude people. Like, even small businesses can't exclude people. The UNRWA law, is that what you said? The UNRWA law. That's a California law. Right, right, right. I remember talking about that, but can you break it down for us?
Starting point is 00:06:52 So it's like a wider-ranging version of, like, the civil rights law. You can't discriminate based on, like, a wide range of categories. And courts in California have interpreted that to extend to viewpoint. So businesses that try to exclude like
Starting point is 00:07:05 political extremists from uh their their uh their property uh have been shot down in the courts the courts have said that you can't do that uh under the california constitution as well uh there was a very famous case in the 1980s and this is an unruh this is like this is their constitution but there was a famous case in the 80s uh calleduneyard v. Robbins, and that was a shopping mall that was taken to court because it didn't allow political activism on their property. And the court said, well, under California law, under the California Constitution, shopping malls have to allow political activism on their property. So if California can do all those things, there's no reason why Texas can't do it, Florida can't do it, any red state can't do it to the tech companies. Can't you just sue based on California law then to get your account reinstated or what? Well, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:50 You know, this has been tried before. The problem that all these state laws will run into is the, well, first of all, that didn't apply to tech companies. It'd have to write it and specifically apply to tech companies. The other problem, of course, is Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which is the law that says tech companies can censor a wide range time necessarily, because they had no idea what they were dealing with. And to a certain degree, it made sense. But a lot of people don't realize, I hear this all the time when people are like, they're a publisher now, they're a publisher. It's like, no, that's not what the law means, not how it works. Like the New York Times,
Starting point is 00:08:37 you can't sue them for the comments. But there are a bunch of really important points to be made. When Twitter publishes those little blurbs and news things yeah that is twitter speech that's twitter making a statement everyone's a publisher if you have a website even twitter but it doesn't it's it's it's actionable when twitter says something not when one of their users says something uh yeah well what blows my mind i've said this before is that wikipedia enjoys the protection of section 230 i mean that how though that makes no sense to me Wikipedia says it's an interactive computer service just like Facebook and Twitter and you know it provides a forum for all these anonymous editors to make these articles but the function of Wikipedia is clearly a traditional
Starting point is 00:09:17 publisher it brands itself as an encyclopedia and it says on every article from Wikipedia not from you know Joe Bob Jr. Precisely. And if the Encyclopedia Britannica published in its paper encyclopedia, far less influential than Wikipedia these days, if they defamed someone, they'd be held liable for that. But Wikipedia defames people all the time. It's the entire purpose of some of these articles about conservative figures. And yet conservatives can't sue them over that. Why can't you sue them? Has anyone tried?
Starting point is 00:09:43 People have tried, yes in in various jurisdictions but uh have they ever made that argument that wikipedia it is not look it's it's it's we've talked about this before we had larry sanger on who was one of the co-founders and we talked about how on twitter it says you know at libertarian blue it's you it's your account your words wikipedia says from wikipedia if you want to see what the users posted you got to go to the you got to go to the uh the um not what's it called the history you got you got history yes view the history of the article and then you can see post made by this person the article itself is not is an article published by wikipedia period uh yeah but somehow section 230 protects and it just shows how broken the law is that it's
Starting point is 00:10:25 protecting the most one of the most powerful publishers out there the site that's at the top of nearly every google search that can defame almost anyone maybe the issue is people haven't sued properly and the argument needs to be show the judge a picture of the article where it says from wikipedia and say so long as wikipedia wikipedia purports that the words on this page that show no reference to any users or any individuals, it says all of this is from Wikipedia, then Wikipedia has asserted it has published this of its own volition. I mean, I would like to see people try. I'm not a lawyer, but I assume the amount of people that Wikipedia has defamed, I'm
Starting point is 00:11:00 amazed that if there was a a possibility even the slightest possibility you could win a defamation case against them i'm sure someone would have tried it by now but i could be wrong i hope to be proven wrong on that point i guess the issue is damages yeah you know for uh proven damages is always particularly hard but the main issue is that you need millions of dollars to do it i've heard so many stories from prominent conservatives where they've been defamed a million a million one ways and it's like well i don't have any money so i can't sue them that's all that's it massive corporations can get away with it individuals can't really do much about it that's why social
Starting point is 00:11:33 media was so powerful because it finally gave the individuals a chance to speak up and push back well now that's being threatened if you got the wrong opinions you're gone yeah if the uh the momentum of the alternative media and independent journalism that existed in 2015 and 2016 had been allowed to continue who didn't have the rise of censorship would have totally eclipsed cnn and the new york times and washington washington post that's why they had to kill it kill uh kill you know the online freedom right speech i think people need to realize i need you i think people need to stop and take a look at some web archives. Look at what the internet was 15 years ago compared to what it is now.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Look at YouTube 10 years ago compared to what it is now, and you're going to go, wow. I did not realize how much it changed. Before Google bought YouTube? No, no, no. I mean – 2006. But I'm just saying – You couldn't say anything, but it was pretty close.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I'm just saying the internet in general has become Disney. You know what I mean? Like back in the day, the internet was nuts. It was crazy. Disney's become trash. The iron law of oligarchy. Eventually ruling elites inevitably emerge from any system. Yeah. Building elites inevitably emerge from any system. Yeah, well, the issue I suppose is it's a tendency within any system, I suppose, for organization, right? So you look at movies.
Starting point is 00:12:55 We used to make crazy movies. A lot of them would flop. Some would succeed. And you ended up with weird things like Groundhog Day. Amazing movie. I don't think it made blockbuster money. What happens is over time, people start realizing, you know, it makes money, giant robots blowing up buildings and, you know, cars exploding. So you get a bunch of Transformers movies with very little story, if any,
Starting point is 00:13:14 because it transcends culture. So big explosions can be sold all over the world, but American culture with, you know, English speakers is harder to sell in foreign countries. You got to do a bunch of work. So they're like, just make it a bunch of explosions, a little dialogue. And then what ends up happening is we get all movies that are just derivative remakes, bland. Yeah, lowest common denominator stuff. The fifth, sixth, seventh Spider-Man remake, okay, enough already. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And now we're at the same place, the same way in the Internet. For a long time, people just made whatever they want on the internet. It was a really weird place where people did weird things. And then big companies started to realize what really made money. They started to invest in only certain things. Then big companies didn't like the idea of fringe weirdos, started banning them. And now look at the kind of shows that are available to you on YouTube. Man, people, you really need to think about this. Only a few years ago, you could go on YouTube and search for the most ridiculous thing, like, you know, DMT, for instance.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Now you do, and it's all like CNN, CBS, NBC. It's all just big mainstream corporations. It's like turning on TV. Yeah, we leaked the YouTube blacklist on this at Breitbart back in 2018. They have a literal list at YouTube that they call
Starting point is 00:14:24 the controversial query Blacklist. And it's just a bunch of political terms. And whenever they add a term to that blacklist, it has thousands of entries, by the way. Whenever they add a term, it just reorders the search results. So there's just CNN, BBC, and, you know, everything else you'd expect.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I love, I was searching for Project Veritas recently because, you know, they put out that music video. Oh, yeah. Oligarchy. Yeah. So I'm looking up Project Veritas and I type put out that music video. Oh, yeah. Oligarchy. Yeah. So I'm looking up Project Veritas and I type in project and I can see all the suggested posts.
Starting point is 00:14:51 YouTube's like, it gives you suggestions as to what it thinks you're trying to type. And then as soon as I typed in V-E-R, it just disappeared. All the suggestions were gone. And then it's like, oh, they figured out where I'm going
Starting point is 00:15:02 and they don't like it. They're not going to autofill it for me. How ridiculous is that? Hoping that I just search for Project Ver and then get some random channel. Maybe it's a good idea
Starting point is 00:15:11 to create a channel called Project Very. For sure. And then just like, you know, talk about Project Veritas and that's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Then YouTube will autofill Project Very. Project Verit. Project Verit dot Verita. As. Project Verit dot as. Get it. Dot as. No, no, no. Just Project Verit. Project Verit. Project Verit dot Verita. As. Project Verit dot as. Get it.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Dot as. No, no, no. Just Project Verit so that when people are searching for it it autofills and then people will click your channel instead.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Veritus with a U. Well, no. It wouldn't. I guess I suppose it would autofill that. In 2008, I was really politically active on YouTube
Starting point is 00:15:42 just like screaming at the internet that we have the control now. Now that we have internet video, the president of the United States, president of Russia can do a video chat and everyone can watch. You don't need secret service. We're in a new paradigm. And I was talking and people were like lighting up, believing it.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And so CNN wanted to get in on it. So they funded the CNN to YouTube debates. And for the first time in history, they took YouTubers questions for the candidates. And it was the most, I asked about the Federal Reserve. I want to know why the bank establishment had co-opted our government. No, no, no. They had the most cookie-cutter stuff. But they were like, look how we're part of – this is CNN.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Look how we're part of this new uprising, this new – and then it took about two or three years. By 2011, they'd completely co-opted the political conversation. Google bought it. Yeah, they don't do anything like that anymore. No, no, and then they don't even do it anymore. Now they just ban the comments on the White House videos, and now YouTube's eliminating thumbs down for Joe Biden
Starting point is 00:16:34 because nobody likes the guy. Oh, yeah, they love Internet freedom and social media when it was helping elect Obama and helping do coups in the Middle East, but as soon as 2016 comes along and you get Brexit and Trump, everything changes. You go back to 2012, you will see articles in the wake of the Obama re-election, like Facebook and the power of friendship and its impact on the 2012 election. So they loved it for a while.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I think shows like this, and I mentioned this before, it functions as a pressure release valve for a lot of people who are frustrated. Right now there's a lot of people who are listening, hearing us talk about censorship. And it's making them feel good that their concerns are being addressed. But YouTube and Facebook and Twitter knows that this conversation likely won't result in anything meaningful. The Republicans right now, in response to the Trump announcement, are saying stupid things like, it's time to break up these big tech monopolies. And it's like, what?
Starting point is 00:17:25 Not with 20th century. What are you talking about? The reason Facebook works is because everyone uses it. You can't break Facebook into 10 different Facebooks. Then what? All of a sudden, Ian and I aren't on the same network anymore. And so how does it work? I suppose if they break them up and force them to go open source and like decentralized,
Starting point is 00:17:41 but that would destroy the company outright. So it's not something that can be done. What needs to happen is regulation on the platform that allows speech. However, what's happening is there are some people that YouTube allows. And why is it that I see every day a YouTube channel get nuked for the stupidest reason or no reason at all, but we're allowed to keep doing the show. Why? Like I said, I think it's a pressure release valve. If they rid of every single you know channel then you'd end up with a whole bunch of people losing it outright feeling like they've been just booted out they have nothing left and they go nuts but they need good old you
Starting point is 00:18:14 know milquetoast timcast irl so that people are like tuning in and hearing this and going yeah yeah it's good it's good to get the truth and it is but they also know that it's just enough to keep people calm correct and you know if you go if you step out of line even a little bit they'll uh they'll just ban you so you know there are some things everyone knows they can't say they banned desantis youtube banned desantis because he yelled a uh a covid 19 round table with some of the signs of the great barrington declaration they outright banned him uh i think it was a temporary suspension, I believe. But, you know, there's a governor of Brexit who will probably run for president in 2024. Yeah, well, look, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:51 I said on Twitter I think Trump shouldn't run because he's too hot. As soon as Trump pops his head up, every single uninitiated liberal is going to be screaming and banging their head on the wall, just freaking out. And if you have someone like DeSantis,
Starting point is 00:19:06 they'll still smear him. They'll try. But DeSantis will not invoke the same kind of anger that people had when it was Trump. Well, however, I'll just say, I don't think a Republican can win. You know, a lot of people are like, maybe the Republicans can win in 2022. And even I was saying it to the other day because libs have gone to sleep. I'm not confident because what's going to happen is a conservative from 10 years ago will never win an election for a few reasons. One, the modern Republican Party is more about Trump and populism than it was about establishment conservatism. But more importantly, if you even
Starting point is 00:19:37 say half the things that the Democrats said, they'll call you far right and they'll suspend you or shadow ban you. So what's going to happen is a Republican might win in 2024, but this Republican is going to be basically Bernie Sanders. And then the Democrats going to be, you know, further left, the full blown communists, maybe not by 2024, but certainly in the next, you know, 15 or 20 years when all of our opinions are being filtered through the far left lens of Silicon Valley valley conservatives get banned and the remaining conservatives are the milquetoast centrist conservatives and then 10 years after that those people are fringe far right war band and the conservatives are going to be socialist otherkin or something that's i mean when we're talking about you know most people say you know the 2020 election was stolen uh but uh
Starting point is 00:20:24 in a sense it was but it was done in the open by Silicon Valley censorship, which they didn't even try to hide the censorship. I mean, Breitbart News found out that Google was censoring us through Google's own analytics tools, so they didn't care that we knew. How did that happen? What did they say? So they introduced a major algorithm change around six months before the election and right after that algorithm change uh impressions and clicks on uh no bright but a visibility on uh on google search for bright but news links it went straight of a cliff like went right down so it's clearly something artificial how about a bunch of other conservative sites as well and that remained the case for uh right until the action plus you could search for the exact string of Bright Button News headlines in Google.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And the link wouldn't come up. Right. Same thing was happening to my other channels as well. And it wasn't until I talked about it on this show that one day people were like, oh, no, your channels are back. You would take the exact title of one of my videos and put it in Google and it wouldn't come up. So something happened around, I think it was like May of 2018. Was that when you noticed the algorithm shift? It was a little bit later than that. I would say was like May of 2018. Was that when you noticed the algorithm shift? It was a little bit later than that.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I would say it was May of 2020. 2020. Yeah, so around six months before the election. In May of 2018, there was tons of people were talking about it. You could look in your analytics and check your recommendations, and you'd see just one day it went boom to like one went from like 10 to like one percent and then people weren't getting any suggestions anymore for any political content that was deemed to be you know just anti democrat anti-woke and it's it's it's remarkable because back then i said republicans were too stupid to deal with it that's still true today three years later they are still not smart enough
Starting point is 00:22:03 to save their own careers. And what's going to happen is by the time any modern, young, center-right, conservative type gets into office, then the system will be too late. And you're not going to be able to get elected because the Republicans at that point are going to be socialists. Well, I think I'm a little bit more optimistic because I think the internet freedom that existed before 2016, that red-pilled a lot of people. And, you know, those people have not forgotten. They're still out there. Millions of
Starting point is 00:22:32 people. And I think what people need to do is focus less on national elections and more on activism at the local level, at the precinct level, you know, influencing their local Republican Party or their local Democrat Party, because that's where you can start changing
Starting point is 00:22:47 from the bottom up. It's much less competitive there. You don't need thousands of votes. You need hundreds or dozens. And just at the state level, get some... At the precinct level. You go from the precinct level to the county level, to the state senate level, to the state level.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Then why don't we just have like a... Why don't we start with like a small town implementing these common carrier rules? Well, no, with common carrier rules, you need the state. But to influence the state level. Then why don't we just have like a, why don't we start with like a small town implementing these common carrier rules? Well, no, with common carrier rules, you need the state. But to influence the state, you need to get involved with the precinct level. Yeah. So, for example, one of the bad things, I like the Texas tech bill, but one of the bad things Texas did recently, the Texas Republican Party, rather, was issue a motion taking the party off gab. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, because of concerns about anti-Semitic hate speech or whatever. And Governor Abbott supported that. That was, it's kind of weird that, you know, the Texas Republicans are saying, oh, we're going to support free speech with this bill, which hasn't passed yet, but we're also going to leave the only, you know, free speech social network. Yeah, so we have this from Texas Scorecard. Texas GOP Executive Committee votes to delete Gab account. How did your state Republican Executive Committee members vote?
Starting point is 00:23:51 So this shows, I guess, how all these individuals voted. They say during their quarterly meeting in Laredo this past weekend, the state Republican Executive Committee voted 35-25 to delete the Texas GOP's Gab account after much debate. Consisting of one man and one woman from each of the state's 31 districts, the SREC is essentially the governing body of the Republican Party. They go on to say Gab is an alternative social media platform, and, uh, wow. That's very stupid.
Starting point is 00:24:18 But yeah, on the one hand, that's a blackmail because the party that's supposed to be anti-censorship and, you know, anti-smears of bigotry and racism and anti-Semitism, things like that, is doing stupid things like this. But on the other hand, you know, you look at this. This is the executive committee of the GOP party in Texas. It's not that hard to influence that if you get involved at the local level, at the local precinct level, and send delegates to the GOP convention and, you know, make legislative suggestions, which anyone can do if you're a member of the party there. So if more people did that, this would be a lot harder to do. It feels like not just with these stories, there's a bunch of other stories we've been hearing about for the past months. The system is just rotten to its core. And I don't see how we
Starting point is 00:24:58 pull out of this tailspin. The foundation is cracking. It's like a building, and the wood is rotten, and the wood is rotten and the foundations are crumbling and people are trying to come in and trying to hold the building up. But it's going down, man. I don't know. Look, people can be fairly optimistic, but you take a look at what's going on with Antifa getting released. You know, they commit felonies and they're free to go. A woman, you know, sells coffee and then she gets arrested big tech keeps doing this the republican party is so pathetic and so weak that they've known about this problem for years and just sit there going i don't know i think anybody that hides behind a political party is pathetic and weak but what do
Starting point is 00:25:37 you do start your own party you don't need a party sure sure but that's regardless the foundation is broken because there's too many people who are like i have to vote republican otherwise a democrat will win when you say the foundation is busted and you have the allegory of the building falling down what is it what is the the found what is it the system that you're talking about like western literally capitalism our country the united states the function of government and business is rotten to its core specifically just the united states i, other countries have other problems. I don't live in those other countries. I live in the United States, so I can talk to you about the U.S.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I think other countries have problems. The U.K., whew, they got it way worse. That country is on fire. I know. Yeah. A lot of countries have it worse. I got a guy for making a YouTube video with his girlfriend's dog. Man, those people are nuts.
Starting point is 00:26:21 But we got that stuff happening here, too, to a certain degree. A guy getting arrested for posting rap lyrics. So those rap lyrics were threats of terrorism. It happens. There was that Ricky Vaughn case as well, a guy getting arrested for posting memes in 2016. Yeah, that's interesting. Which was copied by a left-winger who was not arrested. The meme was, like, giving false information on how to vote or something.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. But then a left-wing comedian did the exact same thing, imitating this. And, you same thing imitating this and yeah she's just fine right right right yep she made a video i think saying the same thing yeah well this so so the justice system is completely at the at the whims of the extremists you look at the chauvin trial you so this is this is amazing in the chauvin trial you have uh this juror who lied said he didn't go to these protests. He did. The Floyd family spoke there. Then he claimed he doesn't remember owning that George Floyd shirt. And then Jack Posobiec not only found a picture of him wearing it, but found a video of him
Starting point is 00:27:13 in his own YouTube channel wearing the shirt. This guy's clearly lying. And you know what's going to happen? Nothing. There's not going to be a new trial. The system is rotten to its core. Mark Zuckerberg can do whatever he wants. They call him in over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Nothing happens. They're just, it's a pressure relief valve. The system is corrupt. There's Democrats extracting all they can from the system as it burns to the ground. And Republicans are just also essentially getting as much as they can out of it while it burns to the ground. And just telling you they're giving you enough to make you think they're fighting back when they are not. The $1,600 checks they sent everyone that are worth – I'm sorry, what were you going to say?
Starting point is 00:27:57 I was going to say hashtag Northwell Republican. Senator Bill Hagerty, the new senator from Tennessee, has introduced a big tech bill that's actually good. You know what? Sure, not all Republicans. I like Rand Paul. We're just going to praise Ron Paul. Ron Paul's a good dude.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Rand Paul's pretty good. They're not all perfect. I like this thing about common cares, but let me tell you, man, when the Republicans had the power, they did nothing. They actually sided with Russiagate. That was in part because they weren't feeling the pressure from the base. When they feel the pressure, they actually flip pretty quickly. I saw this firsthand during the confirmation of Nathan Symington at the FCC.
Starting point is 00:28:39 This was a guy who I knew personally was not bought by special interests, who was opposed to tech censorship, who'd worked on efforts against tech censorship. But Republican senators, they weren't an establishment guy either. So they were wavering. You know, if it was left up to Republican senators, they wouldn't have let this guy through. But, you know, at Bright By News, you know, article after article, putting the spotlight on each Republican senator that was wavering. And like within, you know, days of doing that, the senators all flipped and said, oh, yes, of course, we'll support Trump's nomination to the FCC.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It is possible to accomplish change through the system, but only if you keep the spotlight on these people 24-7. It's possible that because the traditional liberals have gone to sleep now that the Democrats have taken everything, come 2022, conservatives and disaffected liberals,
Starting point is 00:29:25 moderates, the anti-woke are in full offensive and the libs have gone to sleep thinking they've won. So maybe in 2022, the Republicans gained back the house. Maybe they'll get back the Senate. Maybe in 2024, they can get back the presidency. But I got to say, I'm not confident that even if they do, they'll do anything. They're they look, uh, people like Ted Cruz,z you know i think he's better than most of them but i still think all of them are more worried about what the new york times thinks of them
Starting point is 00:29:52 than what their their constituents do that's true republicans need to start ignoring the media this needs to be the new paradigm well everyone like with a with a platform or in a position of influence just ignore the media absolutely stop participating in their broken systems. These Republicans are probably sitting there thinking, well, if I actually do the right thing, they'll lie about me and then I'll lose fun. Then people won't want to donate to me and corporations will get scared. So I better just toe the line for what the media says. And thus the media dictates what the Republicans do. The Republicans do just enough to make it seem like they're doing something and they do nothing.
Starting point is 00:30:24 So what happens when the Republicans actually win back these seats? Then all of a sudden you're going to see them say, well, hold on. We need to have a hearing and slow down. We can't just do this. Democrats, on the other hand, are like rubber stamp at all. It's the place on fire. They're getting paid massive amounts of money to sit there and just field questions and talk about stuff. They're getting paid. They don't barely do anything. And then they're getting bribed by corporations to pass bills and to vote yes on stuff they haven't read. So busted.
Starting point is 00:30:52 How many times, how many elections are we supposed to go through crossing our fingers? I think one of the issues, too, is that millennials have only experienced so many election cycles. And so as the older generation starts to fade out and retire and stop paying attention or pass on, then you end up with the next generation of, you know, Gen Xers and millennials who are just basing everything off of, we've been through four election cycles and we've seen this, that, and this.
Starting point is 00:31:23 This is the time. This is our chance. If you took one person who was a thousand years old, he we've seen this, that, and this. This is the time. This is our chance. If you took one person who was 1,000 years old, he'd be like, oh, yeah, this again. We've gone back and forth with this like hundreds of times. You're not going to get what you want. The system is a gross amalgam of weird, corrupt policies that don't make sense half the time. And they'd also be like, don't break your country. Don't break your country?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Come on, guys. It's up to you. No, it's broken. Well, they're breaking it there's people setting fires i know for for over a year the riots have been continuing and then we get the fbi being like these domestic these far-right terrorists are the biggest threat and you're like i i i didn't have i didn't hear helicopters and sirens outside my house because of the far right i didn't have to move an event I was putting on near my home with guest speakers because of the far right. The far right was the terror. It was the boogeyman.
Starting point is 00:32:12 It was because Antifa called and threatened to burn the theater down. Yeah. It was because far left riders crossed the bridge and started riding in the suburbs. Yet I turn on the TV and the system is dominated by the cult. These people who don't care. You know, and I really believe a lot of these people go on TV, these like, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:30 Chris Ray or whatever, the FBI, they know they're lying. Of course they do. But they don't care about you. And all they care about is making sure the New York Times is nice to them.
Starting point is 00:32:40 They're all more worried about what the New York Times has to say than the people of this country. There was a Solzhenitsyn quote about this during the Soviet Union, something like, we know they're lying. They know that we know that they that they they know that we know that they're lying. And we know that they know that we know that they know that they know that that's what it's getting to. That's the point we're getting to. There's a lot of traditional liberals who don't know anything.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And the best example is that they've all gone to sleep. They're no longer paying attention to politics. The ratings are dropping. They don't care. They never cared. And it's scary that these people are empowering sociopaths and psychopaths. And that's true for Republicans, too. There's a lot of conservatives who go to sleep all the same, don't attention and that's why you end up with a lot of never trumper conservatives
Starting point is 00:33:27 who just all they cared for was the establishment so i end up with with with kinzinger in illinois getting all this support and getting these votes because you've got people who just don't care dude i think they're on the way out i think liz cheney's on her way out she might lose her leadership position kinzinger is going to be redistricted out there and will probably get a position on MSNBC as an ex-Republican commentator. It's very popular. But at the moment, they seem to be
Starting point is 00:33:54 on their way out of the party except for the really smart ones like Dan Crenshaw who pretend to be all MAGA but are basically just establishment. But it's interesting that they have to pretend
Starting point is 00:34:03 to be MAGA. Right. Because I think that there's a lot of people who woke up due to the internet. It's basically just establishment. Yeah. But it's interesting that they have to pretend to be MAGA. Right, right, right. Because I think that there's a lot of people who woke up due to the internet. They're paying attention now. They're getting their facts. They're watching shows like this, and they're realizing the media is lying a lot. But the media is doing everything in its power to make sure they can maintain the facade.
Starting point is 00:34:23 So one thing that's got to happen is YouTube's got to purge itself. YouTube wants to be Netflix. They don't want to be YouTube anymore. Let me ask you a question. Let's ask everyone a question. What's worse, big media or big tech? Big tech. Yeah, tech. I would say big media.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Why would you guys say tech? Because big tech can block you from talking to your own mother. Correct, but what drives that? I think big media has driven most of the tech censorship. You might be right. You see this happen. Whenever Facebook or YouTube doesn't move quickly enough, I'm not saying the tech companies are blameless,
Starting point is 00:34:49 but whenever they don't move quickly enough, they'll start up these huge advertiser boards because they're against YouTube, against Facebook. And the whole panic around disinformation and fake news was started by the media. Right. If that hadn't happened, there would have been some pressure on the tech companies to censor,
Starting point is 00:35:04 but it's only because of the relentless pressure from the media over the past four or five years that this has escalated so rapidly. The Hunter Biden story was censored by big tech before there was any media. There were some tweets from journalists. Well, I think it's gotten to the point now that they're anticipating what the media will do and what the Democrats will do the reason i said tech is because they can build the algorithms that you don't see and that like with media at least you see what they're feeding you and other people are eating it maybe you're not but at least you see it that that's what they're eating but with tech um algorithms you don't know like why am i seeing the things i think i like i don't know because some some scientists in a room has decided that he wants me to see it that way and i can never know because the proprietary i think i think over time youtube's gonna slowly excise channels like this they are doing everything in their power to make it seem like that well they're not they're not
Starting point is 00:35:52 banning or censoring you but they will reduce visibility slowly over time go open a private over to open open a private window in a browser and then go to youtube.com and you'll be like wow is this what people are watching? Yes, because it's the only thing they know that exists because it's what YouTube gives them. Open up a new account on Spotify. Here's the music they're recommending to people. We are in this small space of, I guess, I don't know if you'd call it, right, initiated individuals, I guess is what one we described, the people who have paid attention to politics, who know what's going on. And they're doing everything in their power to make sure that more people don't come into the space and just go back to sleep.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Everything's OK. We're going to keep blowing up kids in the Middle East. Don't ask any questions. Take the blue pill. Absolutely. Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Actually, he didn't. But they told us that for years.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And that allowed us to invade Iraq and station troops and murder. How many tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of civilians? Lots of civilians. How many people have died? Hundreds of thousands. This is the same companies that are giving us the lies now about the far this and the far than the extremist this and the color of that guy's skin. And you know what the best thing about all of it is in 50 years, if they,
Starting point is 00:37:08 if they win, no one will ever talk about this conversation. No one will remember. Yeah. It'll be, it'll be in the history books. It won't be in the history books. It'll be purged.
Starting point is 00:37:17 It'll be excised from the, from the, the great libraries of the, of the digital cloud. And it'll never have happened. As soon as the generation that we're in passes, if they have their way, and it sounds like nothing's going to stop them because the Republican Party is a bunch of feckless losers, then we end up in 50 years with the Republican Party is a bunch of socialist otherkin
Starting point is 00:37:39 arguing with communist transhumanists who have already integrated their bodies into robot bodies. And I made this joke on Twitter, but it's not meant to be a joke. It's the truth. In 15 years, you're going to have a young Republican being like, everybody knows that socialism is good, but these communists are too far left. That's the way it's been going. You can see it happening. Absolutely. You just need only look back a little bit to the 90s, far left that's the way it's been going you can see it happening absolutely you could you you just need only look back a little bit to the 90s to look back to the 2000s when bernie sanders is like
Starting point is 00:38:11 we need a border barrier hillary clinton carrie all these people like build build the wall then trump's like okay build the wall how dare you you're far right open borders now the the people who used to protest the the Trade Organization, it's hilarious. The battle for Seattle or whatever, the battle in Seattle, remember that? I think it was late 90s. Huge World Trade Organization protest. It was the left saying no to this big free trade internationalist policy. Now they're for open borders.
Starting point is 00:38:39 The oligarchy co-opted their own opponents. I actually read an interesting article by Angelo Codavilla, a former senator. He's out at the Claremont Institute. And I'm sort of arguing against myself here because I said, you know, is big media worse than big tech? But what this article argues is that they're all interchangeable. Like the guy who runs the FBI, the guy who runs Facebook, the Democrat politician, the Democrat president, the guy who runs CNN, all of them are interchangeable elites working towards the same goal. The guy who runs the activist organization, also interchangeable. They trade places, and they all want the same thing, which is to reduce the power of the people and increase the power of elites.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Check this out from the Washington, Washington Examiner. Black Lives Matter releases new list of demands, including permanently banning Trump from all digital media platforms. Why? Why does Black Lives Matter care about one guy? I thought Black Lives Matter was about empowering, empowering, you know, the black community and stopping the police brutality. But I guess they're really concerned with making sure the Democrats win. That's one of their one of their new demands. So this is it. This is the proof that their goal is to rewrite history and control from this point on history.
Starting point is 00:39:54 If nothing changes in 50 years, Trump may as well not existed. I once had a very long phone conversation with a Facebook press representative who was supposed to just give me like a canned comment for my article. But instead, he went on for 30 minutes trying to persuade me that Black Lives Matter is not a political movement. And when I say that Facebook is political because it supports BLM, I'm wrong because Black Lives Matter is nonpartisan and nonpolitical and everyone should believe in black lives. But yes, this nonpartisan, nonpolitical organization wants to uh to ban
Starting point is 00:40:25 they uh want wants the president to be banned from office what do you think we'll say about donald trump in 50 years at this at this space they're gonna say he was uh he was a white supremacist they say he was a violent white supremacist he incited insurrection and tried to destroy the country and he was dutifully defeated by a powerful and well-informed electorate who challenged the fake news ecosystem that he had created. That'll be history. The pictures of him will make him look grotesque. He'll have a bright orange face with tiny hands, and that's all people will know about him. I disagree with that.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I think what they'll say is that this current Republican candidate is way too extreme. Even Donald Trump was more moderate than that. You know, this is how it always goes. The last Republican president was a moderate and the current Republican president or candidate is way too far, way beyond there. So George Bush is now a hero. Whereas, you know, at the time he was, you know, literally Hitler. Yeah, but you look at George Bush now and George Bush is parroting the establishment and the woke left. Right, which loves him now.
Starting point is 00:41:31 But back then they were like, you know, this guy, he's racist, he hates black, he doesn't care about black people, he's a warmonger, he's Hitler, blah, blah, blah. They called John McCain a racist, and they called Romney aist and you know now these are all heroes of the establishment so trump was a moderate though compared to them and they called him far right indeed yeah so they can't have you know it's hilarious watching uh you know looking at cnn and and you know the the twitter accounts of some of their personalities when they're just trapped in this time vortex where january 20th has never come and they're stuck there with trump all around them. And the things they say about him, I'm like, Wikipedia and, look, universities and academia is totally corrupted and tainted with bunk, insane information. They push lies every day.
Starting point is 00:42:18 You go on Reddit, you see what people think. They think wrong things because the media is no longer about mainstream corporate press is for a long time has not been around to inform people it exists now to misinform people on purpose someone got smart and they are like man you know these journalists maybe it was the mob maybe it was these corrupt politicians back in the day. They were like, this journalist is going to expose my affair. I can't have that. I know. Let's buy the newspapers.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Well, Goebbels, Hitler's minister of propaganda, was legit spearheaded that charge when they had basically had the first time in history they had TV and they could use media like that. So they decided if you tell a lie enough, eventually people will start to believe it. I wouldn't be surprised if people in the future are told that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. And that it was Trump's white supremacist followers who are spreading lies. I wouldn't even be surprised if there are people today that think there were. Like you would think that would be the most red flag, we made a mistake thing to teach kids, but they don't want that.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And I say they, and I hate using they as a bland thing, but this military complex, whatever you want to call it, military capitalist, coercive, whatever. They really want to sell bullets. They need to. And they're afraid that if we don't police the world, someone else will. I think it's way, way more than that. I think that's overly simplistic. Yeah, I'm being kind because we're on TV. On the internet. Yeah, on the internet. I don't think it's about necessarily selling bullets. It's about maintaining dominance. And it's not so much they're scared someone else
Starting point is 00:43:53 will police the world. It's that they want to maintain dominance. Everybody wants more. I think it's fair to say there's concerns about China's expansion and Russia. But if they really cared about that, I'd imagine they'd be taking China more seriously, not being deferential to China. I think the reality is many politicians are like, look, I don't care who's in charge so long as you keep giving me money and I get to be super rich.
Starting point is 00:44:16 So when China starts doing its thing, they go, what's the easiest way to make money on this one? Just side with China. Yeah. The way to understand American foreign policy, I think, is that for a long time it hasn't been in the interest of the American people or even the American national interest in terms of
Starting point is 00:44:31 maintaining dominance. It's just been, you know, which foreign lobbyists are throwing around money, which think tanks are throwing around money. You know, the whole Russia panic was driven by these very powerful, influential, cross-Atlantic think tanks like the Atlantic Council and, you know, the German Marshall Fund, you know, who their entire job is predicated on a U.S. focus on Russia. So at the slightest hint that there might be a pivot from Russia to China, these guys freaked out, which is why they became some of the most anti-Trump people out there.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yep. Yeah. So history is written by the victors. Yeah. And republic. But then again, there are also you know people have an interest in a china focus so it's just all these groups competing man i'm a bit uh i don't know what the right word is pessimistic to say the very least there's some
Starting point is 00:45:18 there's some positive things we've seen the olympics just banned uh black lives matter protests kneeling you know pumping your fist or whatever. I think we've seen some Hollywood stuff that's been anti-woke. And it may be because now that Trump's out of office, they're like, OK, we better pull this back before we lose control. But regardless, the establishment is in control. I've heard a cynical interpretation of the Olympic Committee allowed political expression by American athletes that have to allow political expression from Chinese athletes and North Korean athletes. Actually, it's North Korea banned from the Olympics? I don't know. But all these authoritarian regimes would send their athletes and say, hey, show the hammer and sickle.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Hold a sign saying the Hong Kong protesters are terrorists, et cetera, et cetera. Yep. So they'd have to cave to all these other countries well that's probably why they did it it's true and and i'd love to see more protests against china but i'm i'm they're still allowed to protest just not during the games so i'm like i mean that's a good thing maybe everybody needs to chill out a little bit this is like you know the violence the escalation the problem is it's one-sided it's it's the the people protesting China aren't going around blowing things up. I mean, Hong Kong, there was rioting.
Starting point is 00:46:30 But you look at in the U.S., it's Antifa, and they're gaining ground and they're winning. They're winning the legal battle. They're winning the media battle. And the federal law enforcement is acting like they don't exist and giving them space to just destroy everything. To inject some optimism, the state laws against critical race theory.
Starting point is 00:46:51 That's a positive development. Lots of red states doing this. But when you were talking about Florida's law on social media censorship not being enough, it's the same thing that's true for these bans on critical race theory. It's not just critical race theory. Its wokeness encompasses critical theory in general, which is every aspect of identity.
Starting point is 00:47:08 So now you've got a whole bunch of people saying critical race theory, and they're totally ignoring critical gender theory. And there's a whole slew of identity-based theories that exist beyond race. So it's like better than nothing, but still, how are we supposed to catch up if we're going slower than they are? They're not just passing laws. They're burning down buildings, cutting off pigs heads and putting it on the porches of the former home of one of the witnesses in the Chauvin trial. They're lying to get on the trials in the first place. And the good principled moderates and disaffected liberals and conservatives are like, we're not going to do any of that we shouldn't and if you even think about doing it the fbi will go oh oh and they'll send 12 agents down because
Starting point is 00:47:54 they found a garage pole rope in your house yeah the fbi is just like the enforcement arm of the uh the democrat controlled oligarchy at this point it It was during Trump as well. It was, yes. Yeah. Yeah. So forgive me for being a little bit pessimistic. You know what? Well, politically, yeah, I think it's busted AF. But I think the real solution is technology. Like, if we can have water, decentralized water supply for every human, and we're able to travel and live spread out,
Starting point is 00:48:23 I think a lot of these problems will dissipate. So although it is important to focus on this political stuff, China, America, Black Lives Matter, violence in the streets, it's not the solution. I don't think it's the solution. No amount of arguing and yelling and signing paperwork is going to solve it. We need technology that can allow us to become independent. Yeah, the technology is currently owned and controlled by the cult.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Proprietary technology is concerning. IP wasn't even invented until, I think Queen Elizabeth created copyright in order to protect the Bibles that she wanted to sell so that she could maintain profit on all the Bibles. Before that, that didn't exist. You could just kind of trade information freely. No, I think IP should exist.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Maybe it should be reformed, especially with software code i think somebody who works you know 100 hours to make a feature-length film should be compensated for producing that work and people saying it's just information i can share it all i want it's like okay like someone worked really hard to make something they want to sell that's why crypto works that's why crypto is so powerful because you can't duplicate it it you can't duplicate it. It's a non-duplicatable asset you can have digitally. I like the idea, like, if you made a movie and wanted to sell it for $9.99 for someone to watch it, and then I got a hold of it and wanted to sell it for a buck for people to watch it,
Starting point is 00:49:36 that 90% of those profits would go to you automatically. So if you could somehow code into the software that no matter where it goes and who profits off of it, it always goes back to the creator, at least a large percentage. I'm getting off topic a little bit. Yeah, I guess the main topic is… I'm interested in this, actually. I mean, I think you were saying earlier about how all these Hollywood studios just regurgitate stuff and do the same formulas again and again, the same remakes again and again, if they didn't have full control over the IPs, and as you say, if people were allowed to reproduce
Starting point is 00:50:11 and create new stuff off of that IP, and all the profits, or a significant amount of the profits go back to the creator, then I think you'd see a lot more creativity. Yeah, definitely. Creative commons, things like that? I don't know, though. It's decentralized from the internet. There used to be a small amount of really big bands
Starting point is 00:50:29 and movie producers and movie stars who made a lot of money. And now, because movie theaters are going away and because Spotify exists and everything's decentralizing, this is actually what I think is contributing to the destruction of our culture and society, that people can choose whatever they want. So it used to be that everybody was like, what do you watch well you can watch the news you can watch the oscars so everybody would watch the oscars whether they liked it or not it was what was on now the oscars comes on
Starting point is 00:50:53 it's like what did we watch during the oscars i don't remember we watched something oh mortal combat i was watching mortal combat instead because it came out the movie it's the citizen kane of our generation excellent excellent. Yes, just totally amazing. And I didn't watch the Oscars. It's so extreme, too. How many videos are on YouTube, guess? Billions? You have billions of choices of things to watch during the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:51:15 You used to have, like, 70, maybe, if you had cable. No, you had, like, five. Before that, you had five. Yeah. ABC, NBC, CBS. Now you have billions of things to watch. Static things that always are there to watch. There's no schedule.
Starting point is 00:51:27 There's no you have to wait till 8 o'clock. I mean, it's a different reality. This is why elites are so scared of the Internet, though, because it's taken away that shared reality. And, you know, there were downsides to taking away a shared reality, but it took away a shared reality that they controlled. And that's what they're afraid of. Right. Now people find whatever community they want for whatever they want to believe. And then you end up with people believing insane things.
Starting point is 00:51:49 So it's funny. I love how CNN is obsessed with QAnon and Trumpism. And I'm just like the level of cultism within the fringe QAnon people is identical to the zealotry of the woke left. But the woke left is institutionally accepted, spouting ridiculous, insane, fake news nonsense every single day. I think I think one of the most dangerous people on TV left is like Tucker Carlson is dangerous. I actually think one of the most dangerous would probably be like Chris Cuomo and Tapper. And then to a lesser degree, you know, people like Brian Stelter. Their jobs are to misinform you, to make sure you don't understand the world.
Starting point is 00:52:35 It's like they're purposefully trying to make you see things incorrectly so that you can't do anything about it. Case in point, I think it was, was it Tapper? When he was like, was he the one who said you couldn't look at the WikiLeaks documents? Or was that Cuomo? It was one of them. Definitely one of them. They were like, don't forget these WikiLeaks emails. You can't look at them. It's illegal, but we're allowed to do it. And then they can all... What?
Starting point is 00:52:56 They want to make sure you don't know things. Brian Stelter on his show goes, don't watch the spin. Make sure you come to us. We're the only ones who can bring you the truth. I'm like, you guys are crazy. Yeah, I mean, you look at the shared reality created by institutional corporate media. They believe insane things about white supremacy and feminism and the patriarchy, and they believe this for decades and decades.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And I think the QAnon thing, they're just insane that they now have to compete with other insane realities. I mean, the QAnon thing is not relevant in my opinion. It's, I mean, sure, there's a lot of people on the Internet who believe things that are not true. I know people who believe the earth is flat because they went on the Internet and read some weird website. Then I opened Vox, and they're repeating fringe conspiracy theories. They did it for years. Bill Maher. I love how I love how it's one of the sweetest things, like one of the funniest things to see Bill Maher get corrupted because he's this proud, like rational guy who's like,
Starting point is 00:53:56 oh, religion is crazy. And I think and all these Republicans are so dumb. And now it's like he's coming out and admitting, yeah, Russiagate wasn't real. It's like, but dude, for years you were prattling on about it. Did you not take two seconds out of your day, you spineless coward, to actually read the news? No, because people at this age and this point in their careers, they sit back with their eyes half closed. Bill Maher probably sparked up a doobie and then said, just do the work for me. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And so then some dumb intern turns on CNN and just writes down what he hears. Here, Bill, here's your criticism. And then Bill comes out a week after Covington, a week after Covington, when everything was debunked and says all of the BS lines. And I'm like, bro, do you have Google? Well, you know what? I can't blame him because Google's banning certain news outlets. They're pointing him to confirmation bias. A lot of times people are getting pointed towards articles that confirm what they want to believe.
Starting point is 00:54:52 And now he's supposed to be the same liberal guy. I appreciate the fact that he pushes back on the wokeness. But his talking points are just regurgitated fake news. And the dude doesn't have the wherewithal to actually know what he's talking about more so than many others to be fair they want us to you know uh believe that the scariest most dangerous conspiracy theories are the ones on you know anonymous message boards but the conspiracy theories we should be worried about are the ones that exist in universities and in the cnn newsroom because they're the ones that have influence yeah like the uh project veritas
Starting point is 00:55:24 exposing the technical director who's like we got trump out it's what we do and we're going to be fear-mongering going covid death oh man gangbusters for ratings these people are sick what do you think is more dangerous conspiracy wise the world economic forum it's great reset or cnn putting covid numbers at the top of the screen for emotional manipulation? I think they're both pretty dangerous, which is kind of dodging the question, but it goes back to my point that, you know, no one's shared reality is going to be perfectly absent of, you know, nonsense,
Starting point is 00:55:58 because we all end up believing nonsense based on, you know, what our in-group believes, and we all confirm our own biases. Therefore, the ones we should be most critical of, the shared realities we should be most alert to, are the ones that come from universities and the mainstream media and these big organizations like the World Economic Forum, because those institutions have power, whereas random anonymous message board with Q posters does not. I think a lot of what we're seeing is great reset stuff, you know? So there, there, it was interesting. Someone made the point that when they announced 15 days to slow the spread, Mark Zuckerberg said, we're not going to reopen until next June,
Starting point is 00:56:33 you know, like a year from now or whatever. And then sure enough, that's when a bunch of the states are lifting their, their lockdowns as if Mark Zuckerberg knew, or it's a coincidence, whatever the point is, a lot of these businesses took action, whether it mattered to the pandemic or not. A lot of these states were doing things that had nothing to do with the pandemic. For instance, there was a woman in North New Jersey who was selling things on Facebook online. She had a little resale shop. And when they shut all the businesses down, she was in her business and she was filming things saying, if you see anything you like, just let me know and we'll ship it it out and the cops showed up with a smile on their face and said ma'am you can't do what you're doing and she was like what do you mean where they're like you
Starting point is 00:57:12 have to close your store because we are closed no ma'am you can't live stream your products and then sell them what does that have to do with covid and why did these cops go and do it those cops should be fired but uh they were like percent of people who have not left their homes throughout all of COVID. Something insane like that. That's serious delusion. People want to talk about Q and stuff like that. Those people. I'm scared of those people.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I'm terrified of these people because they vote. And it's like you see these videos. There's one video recently of a woman wearing – it's like she made out of PVC pipe this like square rectangle thing that goes over her body with plastic sheets. And then like her hands can come out through gloves and she's walking around with this thing. You see videos. I wonder how many of these are jokes, right? Because we bought the space helmet thing, which is really funny. I have this thing.
Starting point is 00:58:03 It's called like microclimate and it's like a space helmet. I got to admit, though. I bought it as a gag because it was funny, but it's really useful when I'm cleaning out the garage, and there's all the dust and pollen. I would go in there, and I'd try to clean out the dust a bit, and I'm sneezing like crazy. And I'm like, I'm going to wear my space helmet. And it works. It's beautiful. It's big, and it's got air filters in it.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I'm like, this is actually really nice. Advertisements you didn't know you needed yeah maybe they should market it as like when you're cleaning in a dusty place yes and you need filters because of you know yeah for your eyes too but anyway you have a lot of these people who believe the most insane things these videos where like people are walking down the street wearing you know a hazmat suit or something and they jump out of the way of people i have friends and it's like dude i get it i understand there's a concern about covid but some people just go nuts yeah i mean i understand if you're like in a vulnerable uh vulnerable group if you're older or if you have some sort of condition that makes you particularly at risk due to covid but like normal healthy
Starting point is 00:58:59 people are doing this like i got it's not just the lockdown it's like the extremism it's the wearing the weird hazmat suits with like an air canister what gutted me of everything i've seen in the last two years is the baby when the baby was born in plastic and then the mom like pressed it against her all the pressing the baby's face against the plastic sheet so it was protected i don't know i don't know it was just so sad to be a for the baby's first experience in life to be smushed into plastic i'm right right right the point i'm trying to get to is that there are a lot of people who believe in saying conspiracy theories that are unfounded not even the mainstream media is saying it but there's no criticism from journalists over
Starting point is 00:59:40 what crazy people are saying you gotta be because you gotta be so careful because you can get banned for criticizing specific things you don't even know what they are. I'm not saying that. I'm saying CNN's Brian Seltzer will never come out and say Antifa is a problem. He's done it like when Andy Ngo got attacked,
Starting point is 00:59:54 he did a blurb where he's like, a journalist shouldn't get attacked. See, there we go. Anyway, moving on. Tucker Carlson, by the way, they won't do it. So yes, we all know QAnon is bad. We all know these people believe
Starting point is 01:00:05 crazy things and they never seem to give up. We don't talk about the fringe far left conspiracies, the lunatics who believe insane things about like, the left always tries to disavow this, like what conspiracies? Well, there's like a whole bunch of weird medicinal websites that are run by crystal woo woo people who are leftists, who are socialists, who are hippies on farms, who believe insane things about medicine and about hospitals. The media doesn't talk about that. They like to talk about anti-vaxxers, but they only ever highlight like a conservative or just like some random person on the internet. They don't talk about Russiagate. Literally four years of the mainstream media propping up completely fake news. And they still do it every single day.
Starting point is 01:00:48 So it's going to be fantastic. Look, this bill in Florida, maybe they won't be able to actually enforce these things. But there's a provision saying that news organizations can't be banned based on their content. I have – I'll preface it by saying I'm not loyal, but like the lawyers I've talked to say, it's extremely difficult for that to get past the First Amendment unless you also have some kind of common carrier or public accommodation requirement. I'll say this about the Florida bill, though. It does have a pretty strong transparency requirement that can't be dodged by appeals of the Constitution or to 230.
Starting point is 01:01:21 So that could be interesting. It might force these tech companies to really show us what's going going on with their algorithms although they might just do that and say okay yeah we are sending you we don't care what are you gonna do about it at the very least a bunch of lawsuits will be filed at the state level yep yep that will happen and then what's facebook going to do they're going to deal with i mean we talked about the other day you got 21 million people in in florida let's say say around half of them are Republicans. Around 20% are probably paying attention on social media because that's the number on Twitter. And 2% of those are active on Twitter, actually posting.
Starting point is 01:01:52 So you can have between a couple hundred thousand or tens of thousands of people and millions of people who might actually have issue with these social media companies. Many of them might file lawsuits and have grounds to do so. It's doubtful in my view that any of those will survive in court. I think the tech companies will win. At the state level? At the state level. But how if the state passes the law and then they go to a court in that state and say, see what your law says? That's what they did.
Starting point is 01:02:24 The tech companies will just take it to the federal. They would have to appeal to the feds. But that still means they're going to be attacked on multiple fronts. They're going to have to pay for these lawyers. They're going to have to take it to court. It's going to cost them a lot of money. And they're not going to get their court costs back. Not that much.
Starting point is 01:02:39 It's very hard to impose financial consequences on the tech companies that they actually care about. And it would have to exceed the financial cost that the media can impose on them by whipping up ad boycotts. And that's like hundreds of billions, billions of dollars. Well, the problem ultimately is none of these things individually. It's our community. It is that we don't care about each other or our country. We have no shared interests, no shared goals. The country is split, not just down the middle, because sure, there's a culture war with a left and a right, whatever those factions may be. But there's subcategories within these factions that are fighting with each other that dislike each other. The states are another instance of
Starting point is 01:03:19 factional conflict. And these boycotts are the most insane i'm sorry these these these corporations and the ad boycotts are the stupidest things ever you know you see coke now backtracking oh no we didn't mean to criticize georgia it's just absolutely insane that these corporations are deciding to sacrifice their business for like seven percent of the country one way to look at it is that centralization is fighting decentralization. Like the Internet has busted up everyone's shared realities. We're now going into the realities we like best. But the forces of centralization are trying to fight that by suppressing all these ideologies
Starting point is 01:03:56 and imposing one shared progressive worldview on everyone. What needs to happen is the law needs to follow the trend of decentralization and actually create – and culture needs to create more tolerance for diverse viewpoints because viewpoints are getting more diverse as shared reality breaks down. Right. I see why the centralization is doing that because historically if a culture would permeate or break apart, it would be taken over by outside forces. So they want to make sure it's strong. But if we evolve the decentralized system so that it communicates properly with itself, then we should still have similar security to a centralized system. Maybe they really do like that it's breaking down.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Maybe it's just, I mean, look, the Great Reset. It's funny when I see people on Twitter say it's a conspiracy theory, and I'm like, but here's their website. It's the World Economic Forum. It's the Davos Group. It's a bunch of extremely wealthy and powerful individuals around the world saying they're doing this, and they're going to do it, and here's what they're going to do, and they're all woke. The conspiracy isn't that it exists. The conspiracy is the actual thing they're doing.
Starting point is 01:04:59 It's not a theory. It's a conspiracy fact. A small group of people decided to make some moves and make some stuff happen. I guess conspiracy implies crime. So they're not literally advocating for crimes. They're saying everybody should have a stake in the globe. And look what's happening. The price of wood and steel have skyrocketed.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Bacon, coffee, chicken, everything's inflating like crazy. The gold to lumber ratio is nearing 1. It's at 1.1 or something. What does that mean exactly? So I don't know exactly, but it's been this way before. It's supposed to be a good sign that there's going to be some kind of normalization, but it does show that lumber is skyrocketing up to gold. Gold isn't going down, so it's inflationary,
Starting point is 01:05:40 which means your savings will become worthless. Your salaries will need to go up substantially. But what's going to happen is there's going to be a period where people can't buy things. You're not going to be able to build a new house. You're not going to be able to expand your company and have new projects. There's going to be a very serious recession, maybe even a depression. And that means your savings will be worthless. People need to understand this, man.
Starting point is 01:06:03 They don't understand how dangerous it is. It's one of the reasons Doge and Ethereum and Bitcoin are probably skyrocketing because not that, look, I'm sure the meme has a lot to do with it. Dogecoin, haha, it's so funny. It was at 63 cents or something, 67 cents at one point. But it's a lot of people saying, I don't want to have US dollars right now. So what can I do with it? Oh, here's a meme. People have confidence in this thing. I'll buy some of that. But Bitcoin and Ethereum have real value.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Ethereum as a function, as an actual tool function for a lot of different services. And Bitcoin just as a digital store of value and first and best dressed. So people are trying to find a way to not hold US dollars. I certainly, that's certainly my perspective, which is why gold and silver are also on my mind as well. I think people need to understand, if you work right now for one hour, and that one hour of labor gives you enough currency to buy maybe a meal at a restaurant, if you hold onto that in four months, that will not be able to buy you anything anymore. a restaurant, if you hold on to that in four months, that will not be able to buy you anything anymore. That money that you had,
Starting point is 01:07:09 that one point could have bought you that chicken dinner, won't be able to buy you even a soda. That's what inflation means. It means the labor you do is constantly being devalued as time goes on. So you need to put your money somewhere where the value is retained, stored, or will increase. And inflation, by definition means
Starting point is 01:07:25 that it's getting bigger faster so the the less valuable it gets the faster it gets less valuable that's otherwise it would be a linear deflation it is in it is if that's such a thing a linear deflation people think it can't happen here oh it can happen people think it can't happen in 1928 1929 people lost everything they put all they. They bought stock on loans, and then when the stocks tanked, they lost. They had to pay back loans with money they didn't have. Margin calls. So they called in the loans. They were encouraged to do it by the financial industry.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Of course, of course, of course. So you take a look at Weimar, Germany, and the photos of people shoveling worthless marks in the street. You look at Venezuela. It could happen here, and people think it can't. You look at Venezuela, it could happen here. And people think it can't. And I'm like, no, it can. Maybe we don't know when or why, but it's really amazing how we've had such a long period
Starting point is 01:08:13 of sustained prosperity that people just can't fathom hardship. I think they're going to do a currency recall where they say, give us your dollars. And for every dollar you give us, we're going to give you a token of this new currency and you have two years after two years your dollars are worth zero and that's a hard stop the funny thing is they can just say that right if if like you know biden came out right now and said the u.s dollar is no longer going to be
Starting point is 01:08:37 backed by the u.s government then people would be like uh turning your dollars all those people hiding cash in their under their mattress. That's the stupidest thing, too. You saw that story about the grandfather who hid 50 grand in their floorboards? 50 grand, you know, 60, 70 years ago was hundreds of thousands of dollars in buying power. Should have stored some gold in that box. Should have stored some doge. Nice little box of doge.
Starting point is 01:09:02 70 years ago, buy some doge and put it in cold storage. 70-year-old doge's 70 years ago buy some doge and and put and put it cold story some cold stories 70 year old dogecoin yes did you imagine right need in like 20 years so some people have been saying that dogecoin is going to be cash because it can be it can it never stops getting printed right there's no oh yeah that it works much better as a currency than bitcoin does no doubt right right so so bitcoin uh it's funny because people are saying the current state of Bitcoin defies the original intent of Bitcoin. It's a deflationary currency, though. There's entropy. Coins will slowly just be lost and destroyed.
Starting point is 01:09:36 And eventually they can't be produced anymore. So the value can only go up. Doge can be printed and is made forever. So a lot of people are like, that's why Doge is better as a currency because the money market can expand with the economy would would it not be the greatest thing ever if one doge became one dollar and it stayed there forever the buying power of a dollar right now and it just normalized and then in 50 years people are like you know pulling up their phone like how much for the uh the Whopper meal? 43 Doge? Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Scan their phones. And it's not even a joke anymore. It's just literally just Doge like, yo, toss me 50 Doge, man. I want to go pick up some pizzas. And you're like, all right, dude. And you swipe your phone. You're like, hook it up. They're like, cool, cool.
Starting point is 01:10:20 How many Shibuinus do you think got bought in 2021 so far? Shiba Inus. Is that the type of dog that it is? Yeah. That's the type of dog. Yeah. How many I think were adopted over the last 12 months? Yeah. Power to the Shiba Inu. It would be funny if Doge
Starting point is 01:10:30 becomes the main currency. I don't think it will. I think it's good that Bitcoin has a finite supply so that you can't over-inflate it like some crazy guy can't be like, I'm going to print $100 trillion and keep $990 billion of them. But that we'll just keep making new currencies that have finite supplies and you know ahead of time what we're getting into.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And that's how we'll be able to have an infinite supply. I don't know. What do we think Biden's going to do about crypto? I think it's more than likely that he's going to try and clamp down on it some way. Maybe. But I wonder if they're just going to do FedCoin. You know, they've been talking about the Federal Reserve is going to make their own crypto. And it was interesting.
Starting point is 01:11:03 I was talking to somebody about how banking works anyway because like your bank account, there's no real dollars there. The bank doesn't have the cash. If everybody went to the bank right now and asked for their cash, they'd be like, that cash doesn't exist. It's in your account. You can spend it. You can't physically hold it. So it's a really interesting way to avoid a potential run on the banks, for instance, right? Back in the day, people went to the banks and
Starting point is 01:11:29 like, give me my money because they were worried the bank loaned too much out and there wouldn't be any available. But now the bank can be like, we can't give you your money, but here's a debit card that still works. You can still buy things with it because your money is all digital. And I was talking to someone and they said, I was like, how do they track whether or not their money's actually there? It's just, it's like an archaic kind of blockchain,
Starting point is 01:11:49 essentially, that institutions will track money went from this account to this account and here's the account numbers and it goes to that account to this account and there's a ledger
Starting point is 01:11:56 showing all the transactions that were made and that's it. No actual exchange of currency, no hard exchange of any physical object. So then someone makes the blockchain
Starting point is 01:12:03 and it's like, they kind of just decentralized what the banks were already doing. Some centralized digital currencies have real value. In Venezuela, a lot of people bought and still buy World of Warcraft gold because it was more stable and valuable than the Venezuelan currency.
Starting point is 01:12:18 But still, even to this day? Because you can buy gold now on World of Warcraft. Well, that's the thing. They were either farming the gold in World of Warcraft or they were transferring their currency on World of Warcraft. Well, that's the thing. They were either farming the guild in World of Warcraft or they were transferring their currency to World of Warcraft guild because World of Warcraft guild was less likely to inflate than Venezuela and Bolivars. Yeah, but World of Warcraft guild inflated like crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Oh, yeah. I'm not saying it's stable, but it was more stable for a time than Venezuela's currency. Wow. That's a very serious indictment of Venezuela. But I wonder when we get hit by that. than Venezuela's currency. Wow. That's a very serious indictment of Venezuela. But I wonder when we get hit by that. I was reading one article where there's some big investor guy said
Starting point is 01:12:50 30% market hit at the end of the year. Of this year? Yeah. 30%. So I'm not going to tell anybody what they should or shouldn't do, but I'm going to buy a bunch of Ethereum. Me too.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah. Big Ethereum update in July. Yeah. Yeah, you were saying they're not going to have mining costs anymore? Yeah, so they're going to change the way gas fees work. So I don't know all of the details, but it's going to stop going to miners. Miners are not happy about this. And it's going to instead, some of it will be burned with every transaction.
Starting point is 01:13:22 So it's going to make Ethereum more deflationary. Oh, so instead of paying the miners, you're paying less of a fee, but the fee is actually just being – that's very interesting. But the bottom line is they're planning it to make gas fees less wild than they are today. If you can build a way to naturally deflate currency into the currency, that's how you avoid inflation, obviously. It just guarantees it becomes more and more valuable over time because there's less of it inflation obviously it just guarantees that becomes more and more valuable over time because there's less of it or it doesn't become less valuable however you want to look at it that's really weird i mean i i do think that there's a possibility that doge shows us the system is collapsing as well in that there are people who got rich
Starting point is 01:13:59 big time for no reason for a meme it's it's it's a meme economy it's almost like labor is is essentially meaningless think about this way imagine you're a contractor i'm sure a lot of people watching are contractors you build uh pole barns or something or or small structures and you're like it's going to cost you know ten thousand dollars for this you know simple steel garage you wanted and the guy goes uh hold on, let me sell some Doge. Here you go, man. And then you're like, you should give me 10 grand to build this thing for you. And you were like, you're selling Doge.
Starting point is 01:14:31 What does that mean? Oh, yeah, yesterday I bought a bunch of Doge and it jumped 30 cents, doubling its value. So now I'm just giving you, I didn't do any work for it, but now you're getting what you want. We are living in that world. There was a moment in January where like in the same day I was, you know, walking through my apartment building. I overheard a conversation between two people. Oh, yeah, my Doge investment is doing really well. Went to a restaurant.
Starting point is 01:14:53 The waitress was talking about how her boyfriend made $1,000 from Doge. Everyone was talking about it and investing in it. That's why confidence is all that matters. You know, people thought that for a while people were saying Litecoin was the silver to Bitcoin's gold. And Litecoin is particularly valuable. Bitcoin cash is up significantly. But it's all about confidence.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Bitcoin has confidence. Big companies have invested in Bitcoin infrastructure. Dogecoin has the second most level of confidence, in my opinion. The issue is that there's so much Doge. It's there's there's a massive quantity of this. It's probably better to say Ethereum has more confidence, but I think Doge might be even more than Bitcoin, to be honest, for a few reasons. A regular person who looks at Bitcoin and sees $60,000 says, I can't buy it because they don't realize that you can buy fragments down to the eighth decimal point.
Starting point is 01:15:46 But they see a Doge and they're like, 60 cents, oh, I'll put 10 bucks in. Yeah, and Doge is so volatile, it goes up and down so steeply that there's always going to be like a significant dip that you can buy in at. Dude, it goes up and down so fast because of the meme. There are programs you can buy
Starting point is 01:16:01 that's buy and trade on algorithms and you press start and at the end of the day, you made $10,000. Wow. Because what it does is it has a certain amount of money and a certain amount of Doge, and it buys low and sells high automatically. And looks for trends probably, like when a tumble starts to happen, it'll get in and out? It's really simple. It's like Doge hits.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Yeah, so if there's a certain percentage spread, it'll sell when it's high. And then when it dips back down, it'll buy again. And then if it's a certain period of time where it's only going up, it'll just buy in and then sell high. And it keeps doing this and it keeps increasing the amount of currency and Doge you have. So people have been doing this since the inception of cryptocurrencies. I remember back in the day there was one website. I can't remember what it was called. But they had hundreds of clones of Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:16:45 And people would just make simple programs that would buy and trade whenever one would go up. It would go down. They'd buy. When it got up, they would sell. And they would just do it with all the different currencies. People made a ton of money. I've got to find these Doge algorithms. It's not even a – it's really simple.
Starting point is 01:17:01 It's like if increase 5%, sell. If decrease 5%, buy. It's like really really simple. It's like if increase 5% sell, if decrease 5% buy. It's like really ridiculously simple. And so it just sits there tracking the current price, and it's going up and down, and then it buys, it sells, and then it buys, and it sells, and then it buys, and it slowly goes up, getting you more Doge and more cash. That's due to the volatility of Doge. I mean, day traders do this in general. You look for a particularly stock you think is going to spike and then as soon as it does you sell it immediately and then move on and
Starting point is 01:17:28 you don't worry about it but uh i i do wonder like that the bitcoin uh bull market's been going on so long when it goes down it'll really go down no you think not nope i think a bitcoin uh it'll have it has its periods um it it hits 20k a few years ago and then dropped down to like 7, and everyone was like, no. Some people mortgaged their homes and they were panicking, and that was a huge mistake because if they had just held onto the Bitcoin, it would be 60. There were people who bought in at 20,000, and when it tanked,
Starting point is 01:17:58 panicked and sold, thinking, I've lost everything. Oh, yeah, of course. But my point is, like, as the market expands, as more people become participants in it, the panics grow more severe. Because there are more people panicking, more people selling. What's going to happen is, so recently I think it dipped down to like 47 in the past couple of weeks. And then a bunch of institutional investors immediately were like, yes. And they bought it all up for discounts.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Knowing that it's going to go up, I think a Bitcoin will reach a million dollars. And probably more than that, but I think a million at some point, and I think particularly soon, for two reasons. The buying power of the dollar is dropping dramatically, and the investment into Bitcoin infrastructure is going up dramatically. So that means the value of Ethereum and Bitcoin, they're literally gaining value as more and more people want them. The demand is high, but also corn is up 44%. So if you're holding a dollar, you can only buy half as much corn. You're holding a Bitcoin. You can buy even more corn. So Bitcoin is going to go up. It's
Starting point is 01:19:01 deflationary. It is a funded amount. Coins are lost every day. Demand is increasing. The price can only go up. And you know what? A one with eight decimal points. One Bitcoin. And then you put a period. And then you do eight zeros.
Starting point is 01:19:18 You know what happened if you got rid of that decimal point and put commas? You'd get 1,000,000,000. I think Bitcoin will hit a million dollars. So that's just my opinion. I'm not telling anybody to do anything, but I'll, I'll tell you this. Um, you do what you think is right. You talk to your financial advisor. I'm going to buy crypto. I'm also going to buy, I, you know, you know what I invest in things I can use. Cause I'll tell you one thing, an investment into cryptocurrency or gold or silver or anything like that is an investment predicated upon your belief the system will not collapse the dollar may lose value inflation may happen but you do believe
Starting point is 01:19:52 you'll still be able to trade within the system if you're actually worried about the apocalypse then you need to invest in like a well water tanks uh store 30 year bins of beans bunker yeah bunker i'll tell you if you imagine going you know it's the apocalypse and you're like please sir i need water i've got a bitcoin he's gonna be like i don't care how many bitcoin you got like water is life someone's gonna walk up and be like yo i've got a sandwich and they're gonna be like let's let's divide and trade the sandwich because food is more important yeah there are companies that uh sell luxury bunkers to people they're in america oh yeah yeah there's like there's old converted silos oh yeah they're beautiful yeah i watched i think i was watching a mr beast episode you ever watch mr beast where i think it was mr beast he
Starting point is 01:20:39 goes to one of these bunker silos it's it's creepy stuff but they're like they're like five foot concrete reinforced because they were meant for you know missiles that wouldn't be blown up if they were you know missile strike or whatever and there's like there was a beach room where the walls are painted then they have like bedrooms with tvs for windows so you can see out outside yeah that's cool stuff yeah some people went into like uh bunkers, their luxury bunkers when COVID started. They thought the apocalypse was here. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:09 What other good things to get if you're expecting that? Like solar, I would think. Like just some sort of like renewable energy electricity source and like a ham radio or something. Some way to generate electricity. Yeah. I know that. Don't rely on fossil fuels.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Like solar yesterday we were talking about, but it's not really feasible as like a society's functioning electricity source. Not really a little bit. Solar? Yeah. But if all of a sudden we couldn't pay our electric bill because U.S. dollars were so deflated in value that we can't even get them anymore. That wouldn't happen, right? So the issue is the value of the currency will work to a certain degree within the country. It won't work for imports.
Starting point is 01:21:45 So if your country is dependent upon importing certain goods, then you're in serious trouble. The value of the currency will work to a certain degree within the country. It won't work for imports. So if your country is dependent upon importing certain goods, then you're in serious trouble. But trade between two individuals within the country is probably going to be fine. So the issue for a place like Venezuela is that they're dependent on a bunch of external corporations, like for flight, for travel, for transport. And it's increasingly becoming true for a lot of countries that you're dependent upon other countries goods and services so that being said so long as you don't have a command economy like venezuela your farms will probably still produce and they'll have to adjust prices for the things you know that they that they need to produce this stuff it could make it so that you have to work harder to get food for sure but
Starting point is 01:22:23 you'll still be able to get electricity. Lumber. Are we importing a bunch of lumber? Is that why it went up so much? I do think we import lumber. I do, but I think we import a lot of it, actually. I'm not entirely sure. You can use hemp. Supply shortages.
Starting point is 01:22:34 I think you can use hemp. I don't know if it's an exact duplication of wood. You're not going to get exactly what you get out of wood with hemp, but hemp fiber you can kind of constitute for wood, I've heard. And it grows fast. Hemp does. Well, the housing market is blowing up right now. So, I mean, that might be why the lumber is – What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:22:52 Like prices are skyrocketing? Prices are skyrocketing, yeah, yeah. That's inflation. Yeah. And people are building houses. People are building houses, yep. Well, yeah, and here's the other thing that's going to happen. Because the cost of lumber and steel is so high, the cost to build a house is going to go up dramatically, which is going to drive the price of everyone else's houses way up.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Now, here's the crazy thing. Sounds like an asset bubble to me. Yeah, well, check this out. Let's say you buy a house for $200,000 and you bought it five years ago. Now the U.S. dollar is inflating like crazy. You still owe $200,000. If the buying power of that dollar is dramatically reduced, that means you owe less labor on your loan. And then your house is going to skyrocket in value
Starting point is 01:23:31 because of inflation. So when you hear these people say, don't worry, inflation's a good thing. I guess, you know, for Americans, because we basically control the petrodollar, might actually be. Now your savings will be completely decimated. Right. That's bad. Your asset value through the roof. Yep. The hard assets will retain their value.
Starting point is 01:23:52 And what will happen is, I'll put it this way. Ian, if I owe you a dollar, right now a dollar can buy a candy bar. I say that basically I owe the amount of labor to produce one candy bar to Ian. I'm going to wait a year. Now a dollar can't buy a candy bar anymore. It can only buy a quarter of a candy bar. I owe you less physical goods. Are they going to enforce?
Starting point is 01:24:16 Like, yeah, we know you said you were going to owe 100 grand, but that 100 grand is worth 400 grand. So you owe us 400. Nope. They can't do that. I can't do that. I mean, I guess if somebody has like a fixed variable loan, they can like drive the variable rate up for some reason or whatever, but I don't know how that works. So, but yeah, if you owe a hundred thousand dollars on your house and then the currency
Starting point is 01:24:35 inflates and then within a year it hyper inflates, imagine people are shoveling money into the street because it's worthless. You go to your bank and you're like, here's the money I owe you, and you just shovel it off from the ground and throw it at them. The system can't work that way. People will take out loans to buy assets, and then when the asset triples in price, they'll sell off half of it, pay back the loan with a profit, take out a rinse-repeat, age-old Ponzi scheme. I can't remember which outlet it was. It was an investor outlet. It said, the good news for inflation is it means that your wages are going to start skyrocketing as well.
Starting point is 01:25:09 And I'm like, it's funny that you think that's good news. It's good news for people with no savings. You got nothing to worry about. You got no savings. Nothing's going to collapse on you. So it is technically a good thing. Now, for a lot of people who are like middle class, who have a decent savings, no real hard assets, it's pretty bad for you. So you don't want to be holding – well, I'm not going to give anyone advice on what you should do, but I'll just say I would not want to be holding U.S. dollars, which is kind of a problem because you use it for everyday interactions. But for poor people, they're probably not going to notice. They're going to be like the prices are going up. They're going to go to their job.
Starting point is 01:25:42 I need a raise. The business is going to have to do it. Then they work at Walmart. Then Walmart's going to have to increase the cost of goods across the board to pay higher salaries or to pay higher hourly wages. And then the people who have a loan on their car are going to be like, wow, when I took this loan out for $10,000, I was making 10 bucks an hour. Six months later, I'm making 20 bucks an hour.
Starting point is 01:26:01 My loan was basically cut in half in terms of the amount of work I have to do to pay it off. So, hey, win for certain people i guess and then everyone else around the world will be forced to contend with our hyperinflation because we're america we'll blow them up so banks that would put a lot of burden on the banks that send out the loans so would you expect that banks will stop giving out loans say that one more time if the if the burden then would fall on the banks that loaned you 50 000 that's now only worth $25,000 when you pay it back. Yeah, that's their problem.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Does that mean that they're going to stop handing out loans because of that potential risk? Is that normal? It happens before a – If there's hyperinflation, yeah, maybe. Maybe. Another question this gets into is how long will America be able to just go around the world blowing up small countries without any serious opposition? China is rising very, very quickly. Not long.
Starting point is 01:26:44 I don't think not long. 15 years. I actually tend to be a... 15. Maybe something like that. You mean 7? Maybe. 20, 20 years when they're expecting China
Starting point is 01:26:52 to overtake the U.S.'s economy. We know about Thucydides' trap, so... I don't know. What were you going to say, Alan? I think China can be a little bit overrated. If you look at history, rising powers often don't beat the declining power because the declining power tends to have more allies and more diplomatic clout
Starting point is 01:27:12 that it's built up over many years of being the dominant power. This is exactly what happened with Britain and Germany. Germany was on course to overtake Britain, its industrial capacity, before World War I. But Britain won because it had more allies, its industrial capacity, before World War I. But Britain won because it had more allies, had an empire, had been around for longer, had all of those diplomatic resources that had turned into these alliances, and it was able to beat Germany through a coalition. You look at China, China's sort of on its own because America will have Japan, Taiwan, maybe South Korea.orea might not want
Starting point is 01:27:46 to get involved because you know it's much more vulnerable than say japan by the ocean but america will have a lot more if it came to like a confrontation with china america would have a lot more allies and what allies would china really have russia it comes down to russia again the great wild card like if hitler hadn't invaded russia he would have won the war it's seemingly at least that the math kind of shows that well if he didn't hesitate there was that famous battle whatever where he his well i can't remember exactly what happened stalingrad oh no no no moscow moscow they were right they were like a hundred generals outside moscow and then they said divert to stalingrad something like that they they hesitated allowing russia to uh to generate reinforcements essentially
Starting point is 01:28:22 yes they could have taken moscow but they decided to go elsewhere. Man. Well, hubris, I guess. He thought he could do what Napoleon couldn't. But if Russia gets involved, then you could potentially start a whole domino effect where Europe gets involved as well, and then you have a genuine world war on your hands. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:40 So invest in a bunker, I guess? Yeah, invest in love with your friends and family. We had a guy on from a place called Fortitude Ranch, and they called in their members like in October just before the election saying like the potential for volatility is higher than normal. I don't think they really expected the world to end, but they put out a call like a decent, you know, a decently high single digit percentage of something bad happening, you know, genuine fear that, yeah, something, look, this instability is not going to go away. You know why? I mean, you make a good point about the media being the problem. Brian Stelter is a dangerous guy. I think, you know, Cuomo is probably worse, but he is because he's trying to make sure that everyone
Starting point is 01:29:26 stays agitated, anxious, and suffering from anxiety attacks all the time. Like, January 6th is over, dude. It's not happening anymore. It happened. It's gone away. But he wants to make sure these people only stare at this and these hearings and people are just shaking, terrified of the far right. Meanwhile, there actually is a problem of far leftists going around, rioting, protesting, burning down buildings.
Starting point is 01:29:49 And they ignore that. So he's keeping people distracted from the real problems while keeping them in a consistent panic attack state over something that happened four months ago. He looks like the Joker kind of, his mouth. Do you guys ever notice that? The ends of his mouth go up like the Joker's smile. Like really cool. Brian Stelter. Hey, hey, don't compliment the guy like the Joker's smile. Like really cool. Brian Stelter. Hey, hey, don't compliment the guy.
Starting point is 01:30:06 The Joker's cool. I don't like even making fun. The Joker's based. Dude, Joker's lit. No, no, Joker was a bad guy. I don't want to make fun of people for their appearances ever. But I've noticed that smile. Is that like a hysterical, like not a happy smile, but like a psychotic?
Starting point is 01:30:23 Like what is he smiling about if he's so afraid? I don't get it. I don't know. Let's go to Super Chats. My friends, if you haven't already, please smash that like button and comment because it helps the show and we appreciate it. You can also go to TimGast.com, become a member because we're going to have an exclusive members-only segment coming up after the show around 11 p.m. We put it up every day. We have a huge library of content, some of your favorite people talking about just fun and crazy stuff and some serious stuff as well.
Starting point is 01:30:48 But don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to this channel. Let's read. We got Austin Norton. He says, Ethereum is now above $3,500 USD, a new all-time high. ETH to the moon. I wonder if it's because Ethereum people are discovering it or if it's because the dollar is garbage yeah maybe a little bit of both does the chat think the joke was based or not based type one for based all right let's see we got here christian jim gochian says tim
Starting point is 01:31:18 conservatives protest with their wallets coke goes woke they make it go broke the bottom line changes companies change tune money talks bs walks corporate profit owns the u.s government i i mean i i hear that but i don't think conservatives are organized enough to actually stage effective boycotts however there's rumors about like gina carano coming back coming back to disney plus so maybe and the coke thing for sure i think that stuff will happen long-term. Alternative companies for all sorts of things. I think we should start building the infrastructure. Kenny Jackson says,
Starting point is 01:31:50 SN15 stuck its landing. I saw that. That's crazy. Starship? The Elon Musk starship? Yeah, what happened? It landed. It did a high-altitude test, came back down and landed.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Nice. That's crazy. That's massive. Brought some dough coin back from the moon. Mediocre Fisherman says, would you rather have 100 dogs of any kind or 100 cats? That's a tough call. It's tough. The cats I would have to worry about.
Starting point is 01:32:16 So it depends on what I need them for or what they're doing. If I'm trying to conquer a small village, the dogs for sure. If I'm just chilling and minding my own business, the cats. Heck yeah. They just go do their thing and they, whatever. The question said have.
Starting point is 01:32:30 What were you going to say? I'll take the cats. Cats can look after themselves. Dogs require constant attention. Yeah, cat. Because if you had to keep them inside, the cat pee would be better than the dog poop.
Starting point is 01:32:39 But you can train dogs to attack your enemies. So, you know, in the apocalypse scenario, you'd want the dogs. Yeah. OMG Puppy says, Democrats expand federal power,
Starting point is 01:32:49 permanent one-party rule, long march through the institutions. GOP, we will lower your taxes, which is meaningless in the long run. R. Dubu says, OR leg, Oregon legislation, passed egregious anti-gun SB 554 today with the help of sellout rhinos. Now to Fuhrer Brown's desk to sign, voting collapsitarian from here on out.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Establishment can win the slow game. Let's see how fast they can dance. Not enough people are willing to challenge the challenge the system they're still defending cops like like i mentioned a cop walks into a woman's shop which is closed and tells her to stop posting to facebook that she's selling things she would have been allowed to do that from her house it was just because she was working out of the business they had i i i don't think it matters i think it's irrelevant the fact is her business was closed because they said you're not allowed to be open we're shut down and so she's like i'll post a video on facebook and the cops showed up and said you gotta you gotta stop doing this because we're talking about my store's closed
Starting point is 01:33:50 and they're like no you're on facebook and then people are like back to blue baby i love it when the cops came and shut down atilla's gym and we even had the dude from atilla's on and they apologized to the cops no no don't get mad at them. They're just doing their jobs. I'm like, what are you talking about? Just doing it. What? They're going to look back at us like barbarians. In 500, 600 years, they're going to look back like this is like the year 300 AD and we're like savages. Why?
Starting point is 01:34:14 Because this is so pedantic to use. This is so ridiculous that we're still trying to climb on top of each other for money. It's hideous. it's not the way societies or living organisms are meant to function i mean if free-thinking people lose and the authoritarian regime takes over you know i want to make sure everyone understands something they say every time communism has been tried it's failed you know that every time communism has been tried, it's failed. You know that? Every time communism has been tried. But it's not real communism. Well, it's never real communism.
Starting point is 01:34:48 It's never real communism. But the next time communism is tried, it will win. It will work. You know why? Because it's never been tried before. No, no. Because the surveillance state. The one thing that they didn't have was supreme control.
Starting point is 01:35:02 They can stop the thought before it happens. How could any citizen of China organize against China? Unless, of course, they can't maintain a basic standard of goods. If there is a lack of access to food, which is why a lot of the Soviet, the communist states failed. But I think the ability to manipulate and propagandize at a level never seen before, and the ability to track down and remove dissidents immediately
Starting point is 01:35:27 will make sure the next communist regime functions. Geez. Or can't be toppled. Can you imagine if they were like reading your brain impulses with neural net and like, oh, this guy has signs that he's going to start thinking bad thoughts in three months. We got to get to him. Pre-crime, bro. Pre-crime.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Or yeah, minority report. Pre-crime. Or yeah, Minority Report. That's the movie. Unqualified Studios says, Hey Tim, we took your comments about creating Culture to Heart and launched a brand based off of that mission. We'd love it if you'd check us out. Right on. We will take a look.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Jack O'Neill says, Tim, why are you sleeping on Stargate SG-1? The TV show was amazing, but the movie was bad. I'll take a look at the show. SG-1 does come on after sliders periodically on comet i think is that macgyver richard dean anderson was he in it or was he i don't know i've not seen sg1 one of them was in the movie sunny james says do people really think zuck and gates are geniuses no the federal government built those companies up in
Starting point is 01:36:21 exchange for backdoor access look no further than the feds using FB and Instagram to track down capital rioters. That's your user agreement, folks. You know what I love? There's a meme where it's like Joe Rogan makes comment about vaccine. Joe Rogan, who's not a doctor, says young people shouldn't take the vaccine. And the next one next to it is Bill Gates. Five things Bill Gates wants you to know about the vaccine. Dr. Bill Gates, MD.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Yeah, Dr. Bill Gates. There's the same paper that put those articles out too. Same company. Fauci is a TV doctor. People need to realize this. He's not practicing. He's not practicing. He's a TV doctor.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Okay? Talk to your doctor to find out what's right for you. It's remarkable that you have people on one side being like, Dr. Fauci action figures. There's like a Dr. Fauci pizza. Someone posted this where it's like, it's a face on a pizza with onions and olives. And I'm like, these people are insane. And then I'm just like, dude, I don't care if you're Joe Rogan, MD, Dr. Oz, Dr. Drew, Dr. Phil, or Dr.. Fauci I'm not going to go to the TV To figure out what I should be doing With my health
Starting point is 01:37:27 I'm going to call a doctor And guess what There's something called A second opinion Yeah Go call a million doctors This is your life Well not even a million
Starting point is 01:37:34 I mean a couple It's normal Like I had to get You know a dental thing done A few years ago And I called the dentist Like what do you think We'll do this
Starting point is 01:37:40 Let me call another dentist We'll do this I'm like okay I got a second opinion Great It's a normal thing There's a medical breakthrough You always got to Keep your eyes open Like, what do you think? We'll do this. Let me call another dentist. We'll do this. I'm like, okay. I got a second opinion. Great. It's a normal thing. There's a medical breakthrough.
Starting point is 01:37:48 You always got to keep your eyes open. Yet, why is it so hard for people to say, don't listen to TV doctors? Well, honestly, do you have a reason? Because I think people are like herd. We're like herd animals in a way. 90% of us are just wired to follow the crowd. Yeah. Why do they make people into cult figures so easily?
Starting point is 01:38:05 I don't know. Trump? We have a president. The wall murals of everyone. So many wall murals. Our government is a cult. It's centered around one human. And we get to pick who we want to cult worship.
Starting point is 01:38:17 You're talking about just confidence in a system. But the way we built it is all around one individual. Like, why do we worship the individual like that? Why do people just want to tune out and let that guy lead us to victory? We don't. Well, a lot of... I don't. A lot of people do. I think you have... That are people will just want to tune out and let that guy lead us to victory we don't well a lot of i don't a lot of people do i think that's why they're listening to the tv i i think they trust cuomo on uh andrew cuomo more than they trust the president of the united states people in california were wearing shirts saying like what what did it say it was like single taken dating cuomo in my mind or something. Like these shirts.
Starting point is 01:38:48 They were calling themselves Cuomo-sexuals. No joke. Yeah, that's crazy. That wasn't the president. That's just people who are nuts. I know. Some countries that are led by actual strongmen or alleged strongmen are sometimes saner than America. You wouldn't catch Drag Queen story hour happening in Russia.
Starting point is 01:39:04 Yeah, no. That'd be bad. That's where the kids were twerking? No, not where the kids were. People were twerking for kids or something? Yeah, yeah. But there have been a bunch of instances where kids are brought on stage to do shows for adults. Image JPEG says Bitcoin Cash hit $14.80 today. A world currency isn't going to be Doge.
Starting point is 01:39:22 It'll either be Bitcoin Cash or Monero or both. Yeah, so there was a Bitcoin forked from Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash. And that means that if you had Bitcoin at the time, you had the equal amounts of Bitcoin Cash. I had that, yeah. And then Bitcoin Cash, like I think it hit like 10 or 20 grand
Starting point is 01:39:39 or some ridiculous number and then dropped way down to like 300. Because people didn't know which one was going to win out. They're like, which one is going to be the dominant? Because Bitcoin Cash is supposed to be low fees and fast transactions, like cash. And Bitcoin had become basically gold. So I think, you know, you get both. You get free money.
Starting point is 01:39:57 All right. Talbot Link says, Wikipedia totally defamed Tim. Said he had a Zeppelin. Everyone knows that graphene rocket blimps are where it's at. Best way to the moon. We're actually working on a Zeppelin project. Rocket blimps, huh? Yeah, rocket blimp.
Starting point is 01:40:11 How would that work? I don't know. We are working on a Zeppelin. Yeah, actually, it's just a matter of some paperwork at this point. That's right. And then we're going to film it for the vlog over at Cast Castle, and we're going to have the Zeppelin project with cameras on it, and we're going to go film film and then it will be real.
Starting point is 01:40:26 It's a big Zeppelin too. Yeah, it was at 18 feet long. 18 and a half, I think. Big old Zeppelin. Yeah. All right, let's see. Is there something about Doge? What do we got going on here?
Starting point is 01:40:40 Curtis says, everyone loves crypto, but if it keeps going like it is, hardware will rise to insane levels my 3080 mines 15 a day right now imagine if eta hits 20k home computing will be a thing of the past we were talking about mining last night yeah but people don't realize it's expensive because you use a lot of electricity and people were saying it's not the future of crypto creation yeah mining so yeah it's archa. It was like have your computer work hard to solve an equation so that there's – it was like creating arbitrary work to make a digital asset work.
Starting point is 01:41:10 There's other ways to do it. Yeah, it's proof of stake, right? That doesn't require mining at all. Yeah. Can you explain what that is? No. Okay. Kind of over my head.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Maybe tomorrow we'll talk about that. But that's a reference to holding crypto and then you get a percentage generated by staking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Ethereum is – I think it's, what did Bill say, of 32? Ethereum. You stake it. And then as a holder, as Ethereum is generated, you get a percentage increase. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Okay. Now it's ringing a bell. You can do this with other cryptos as well. You can stake a certain amount of Ethereum or whatever currency. And that proof of stake will, as long as you keep it there, it's going to generate more. It's like interest in a bank account. So your ownership of the asset increases the value or the of the asset increases the amount it's like having a bank account and it's like having your money in uh wealth management or
Starting point is 01:41:54 whatever with an interest rate increase eric miller says trump should run for congress he will have to be unbanned from social media and they don't have term limits but after trump maybe they will i don't know about that they'll still keep them banned they didn't unban laura loomer sunny james says china holds our debt when there's no gold in fort knox land and resources become collateral don't people realize printing money ain't free you'll own nothing and have no privacy yuri bezmanov did say the elites won't get off, but Jack made, what is it? Jack Ma. Oh, Jack Ma'd. Okay, I see what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:42:30 And who disappeared, basically. Jack Ma, I think he did a video chat a couple weeks ago. If they can take away your memory, if they can erase the culture of freedom and classical liberalism and things like that, then people will be happy with no privacy. If they don't know any better. We got chickens outside, right?
Starting point is 01:42:48 Their whole lives has just been in this one little box. They know nothing of the outside world and its troubles. And they're either happy or sad based on whether or not I throw a mealworm at them. If they understood freedom, I mean, actually, so Bucko is an outside cat now. And he did not know the joys of the real world because he was never allowed outside. Just discovered it out of Plato's cave. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Wow. Exactly. And so I'm wondering, like, did we curse him with the knowledge of freedom? No. Because, no, no, the first week, he's like running around like crazy chasing butterflies. Now he just sits on the porch and he just sits there and stares.
Starting point is 01:43:24 We got back today and he was in the clubhouse out back. And he went, ah, and came running out to us. He's probably peeing in there. Yeah, I was thinking that too. Little jerk. All right. Oompa Loompa says, SEC Chairman Gensler is going before Congress to expose Citadel's unfair trading practices tomorrow. Bring your popcorn.
Starting point is 01:43:41 This could be the catalyst that initiates a second wave of short squeezes against hedge funds with massive short positions so is that game stop uh to the moon is that what's going to happen perhaps all right where we at here rebel phoenix says let's fight cancel culture and start buying everything that might get canceled because capitalism is the perfect solution to the problem nobody will cancel anything when they are making millions. Got to organize. That's the issue. The left has so many organizations that tell people what to do, and they just do it. So a company will be like, it'll send out a mass email to a million people saying,
Starting point is 01:44:17 hey, everybody, email Koch and tell them they're racist. And they will. And then Koch gets hit by a million emails, and they go, we better do something about this. They'll make it even easier. They'll have a, like, click this button, and it'll open a form letter to them for them with all the stuff texted there for them. And then the email membership guy or whatever at Coke,
Starting point is 01:44:38 he's like, we have 53,000 emails in the past hour. What do we do? It's like, what are they about? They're all mad about how we said we supported Georgia supported georgia oh and we're gonna put out a statement right now and denounce it yeah also this whole you know business will follow profit thing i mean underestimates how zealously the corporate elites actually believe this stuff gillette lost you know an insane amount of money with their woke staff and and the CEO still said, well, you know, we still stand by our woke values. Alan Rogers says, Ian, did you just hear about Smedley Butler?
Starting point is 01:45:11 Or do you honestly think it's 1917 and there's more money exchanging hands between the government and defense contractors and the government and media? Handyman TN says, Ian, you're so close. They're not selling bullets, they're selling airplanes. Scott Horton explains this in great detail on his YouTube channel in small three minute ish videos it's fantastic thank you i'm looking up smedley butler right now i'd never heard of him before yeah the banker plot old gimlet eye yeah the old the old banker plot blast cap badger says iraq afghanistan vet here in iraq we found nuclear processing and waste facilities with tons of stuff in them other government agencies came in after we
Starting point is 01:45:44 secured it have not heard a word about it since something that alarms me to this day oh creepy eli m says can we have a ian lives matter shirt i guess well definitely dorsey wood says tim tex and rabble thanks for working out login issues on timcast.com sent digital art in last email to member support same name will send framed prints let me know where to send it in a response uh isn't the po box on the website yeah under contact i think yeah there you go yeah so apologies to everybody um as i've stated before for the timcast.com website we did not expect it to grow as quickly as it did and it's not easy to just snap our fingers and have the website that can handle the amount of traffic and the amount of members and everything. So we've had problems, but we're working on it. People have canceled. And I apologize if you felt
Starting point is 01:46:34 the need to cancel because something wasn't working. But I get it. If you can't get access, it makes no sense to be giving anybody any money. So I apologize. But we're a few weeks out from a complete, again, re-upgrade, new everything. And again, we're going to be adding a newsroom. So we're going to have articles. We're going to have more content. And you can send to jobs at timcast.com right now if you are a video producer, documentary producer, and you want to produce some short documentaries between 10 and 20 minutes for us because we are taking pitches and we're going to be commissioning some of these out to uh to uh on a contract basis and there are some ideas i have that we we need somebody right now you send
Starting point is 01:47:15 me an email right now we'll we'll look at it if you're if you're sent you know send us uh examples of your work and if they're good you could be on a plane tomorrow well assuming the plane lets you on and you're wearing a mask but you get the point there are some stories we're ready to pull the trigger on all right trash panda says ian i know you mean well but not everything can be solved by technology the problem is the far left is waging war against classical liberalism and we will not win until we treat them as the enemies they are i know you're right and i do talk a lot especially on this show because it's like a talk show but and i know that the solutions aren't simple man they're just not otherwise we would probably already figured them out already adam thm says tim how
Starting point is 01:47:53 can we change people's minds who we can show them the news articles and proof they're wrong and they still look in our faces and say so what yeah that's uh really difficult i honestly don't know there was a political study in political psychology like 10 or so years back then it was brendan nighan who did it uh the more you show partisans information that contradicts their beliefs the stronger those beliefs grow right yeah because you're an enemy so uh you have to approach them as an ally the first thing you need to have is rapport and so you need to be agreeing with them and then i used to there's there's an old technique in um you know like sales and it's to i'll put this way the big ask you're familiar with the big ask uh it's where
Starting point is 01:48:39 you say like hey i'll sell you this box of kleenex for a hundred dollars and then you're going to be like that's insane a hundred is okay but i'll give you half off 50 Kleenex for $100. And then you're going to be like, that's insane. $100 is okay, but I'll give you half off, $50. So you walked it back and I'm like, oh, I'm getting a deal. That's part of a similar concept called rapport extreme turn, where you approach someone who has a political belief as their ally. Agree with them even if you don't agree. They say like, I'm a big fan of this politician. Say, me too.
Starting point is 01:49:00 Oh, man, high five. Then you present to them an extreme, a big ask, something they can't agree with in terms of politics. I'm grateful to the bolstering of soldiers in the Middle East, because it's about time the US shows the world what imperialism really means. And then when they say, I disagree with you, you say, well, maybe you're not as big a supporter of politician as I am, but I can still respect that you agree with them. And then you've given them the position where they've disagreed with the politician, not you. You didn't approach them as an enemy. You didn't tell them they were wrong and stupid. You said, I like politician too, because he did X. And when
Starting point is 01:49:32 they say, I don't like X, say, well, okay, well then agree to disagree. You don't have to like him as much as I do, but I like him. Now in their mind, they've said, I disagree. You see how that works? I'm not a big fan of that stuff. I used to do sales. I didn't like it. I like just saying it, and people don't get it. But I guess the problem is there are people who understand the human mind and how social engineering works. Edward Bernays. They'll exploit it every step of the way to gain power, and they are. And the people who are like, I don't want to play these games, well, then we lose, I guess. But I don't know what else you do.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Got to be subversive. Kind, but subversive. You don't got to be, but that's one tactic. Kurt Crosby says, Critical theory is like pouring ketchup on a fruit salad. Great show, guys. Jacob Donoworth says, Hey, Tim, if you want a break from all the serious stuff, check out my book, An Officer and a Man on Amazon.
Starting point is 01:50:16 Tons of funny stories about being an officer in the USMC. I'm a huge fan of the show. Keep doing great things. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. If you guys are huge fans of the show, you can just share it on Facebook or social media. Just take the show. Keep doing great things. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. If you guys are huge fans of the show, you can just share it on Facebook or social media. Just take the link.
Starting point is 01:50:27 We should probably make an easy way for people to just do that. That's really the way to grow the show. And then, I don't know. Sometimes you just can't convince people, I guess. Sean Anderson says, Cardano ADA crypto is doing cool stuff in Ethiopia. People need to buy real projects not garbage like dogecoin or eth classic well i think eth is valuable because a lot of companies use it sat says whoever convinced the american people that politics is this complex spectrum with
Starting point is 01:50:54 dozens of labels has got this country under their thumb politics is power nothing more it's really that simple yeah it doesn't matter what party line they write down on paper. Oh, man. A porn crypto. Yes. And it's skyrocketing in value. Of course. 21st century politics. Tom M. says Zimbabwe had hyperinflation, where a trash bag of money got you a soda or it was burned for warmth.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Kept printing out bigger bills and pushing more money into the economy to keep up. Had $1 million bills. Money printer go grr. Yeah, into the economy to keep up. Had one million dollar bills. Money printer go grr. Yeah, I think I saw that once I was at a restaurant and they had like a million dollar bill or something from Zimbabwe and it was just like
Starting point is 01:51:34 just ridiculous amount of zeros. I'm like, wow. But why would anyone even, it makes no sense. Why would you use it? It's not worth anything. Just meaningless. Why would I trade with it?
Starting point is 01:51:44 Alex on Earth says, look up digital dollar project dot org forward slash publications for the latest on the future of digital currency in the USA. We'll check it out. Thank you. Ellen Gin says, a lin gin. Be more worried about the money sharing services between the banks. Zelle and its parent company. They are tied into most of the major banks.
Starting point is 01:52:03 They are using bad contracts to lock out people from it and taking their info. Creepy. Daniel Welch says, did you see AG Barr is under scrutiny for memo? So if you try to stop a baseless witch hunt, it's obstruction. Nothing more than a legal Kafka trap. Yep, that's the power they have. There you go. Nicholas Doyle says to us, the bitcoin cycles are a result of the
Starting point is 01:52:28 four-year payout halving having cycle causing a run because low supply people are too aware too aware to repeat it now so basically what happens is the halving right yeah so people know when there's going to be a strain and so the miners hold it until the strain hits and then they can sell at you know they can make a profit. But now that people are aware of it, the coin starting to stabilize, nobody wants to sell. They want to hold and it makes sense. But I guess the issue is who cares if you're holding Bitcoin, nobody wants to trade it. I mean, I guess people do people, you can buy it. The price slowly goes up because people do buy it. But then if the price is going to keep going up, why would I sell it?
Starting point is 01:53:08 I guess if you have to. Yeah, if you need an asset or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I guess if all of my money and all of my assets were Bitcoin, I'd be trading some out to buy stuff with, you know. Jonathan Duger says, Tim, lumber is skyrocketing because loggers are doing the same thing as diamond miners. They're holding onto it to spike the prices.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Oh my gosh. Wow. X Runner says, there is a production side of this. What happens when producers stop working? Farmers in Venezuela quitting was one variable in their demise.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Interesting. Unknown says, a guy at work made 30,000, 30K on Doge with a 6K initial investment, paid off his wife's student loans in his vehicle. We make 35K a year, 40 hour work week. Wow. The gift of Doge, man. Oh, just jumped on me. Don't jump on me. What are you doing? There we go. Manuel Delgado says the Incan from Kansas. Treat a man as he is, and he will remain as he is. Treat a man as he could be,
Starting point is 01:54:06 and he'll become what he should be. America's worst day is still better than any day in the rest of the world. Be the true change. Put up or shut up. Right on. That mentality.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Diego Salazar says, Your Democrats are our Peronists. All social justice and equality while filling their pockets. Funny thing is that Peron was a Nazi that used the young left to return to power in 72. Greets from Argentina second place in the inflation ranking. Peron? Peron, is that how you say it?
Starting point is 01:54:34 Yeah, yeah. Peronists? That was Eva Peron's husband. What was his name? Peron. Peron. I'm allowed to not know how to pronounce words. I demand people say things the way I do.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Jason Dunn says, fun fact, there's an island in Greece with hundreds of cats. If you can apply to care for six months over the summer, I applied years ago because I wanted to get away, but I didn't get in.
Starting point is 01:54:53 It's pretty awesome. That's great. Japan has a cat island too. Oh, yes. Yeah. Where's the rabbit island? There's that too. Wow.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Oh, wait, yeah, Japan has rabbit island? I think so, yeah. Is that what I'm thinking of? I thought they had cat, then there's pig island. There's snake island too. Did that what I'm thinking of? I thought they had Canada. Then there's Pig Island. There's Snake Island, too. Did you ever see the Island of the Dead?
Starting point is 01:55:08 Yeah, Snake Island. A bunch of hanging bodies. It's a little different. Creepy. Never Fidelis says, Hoag Finance is what Doge should have been from the beginning. Large supply with deflationary tokenomics. There's a 2% tax in which 1% of the transaction is deleted forever and the other one percent is distributed between
Starting point is 01:55:28 the holders what's interesting h-o-g-e yeah hmm op says what's a good place to buy crypto i don't want to buy from a place like robin hood i don't know coinbase gemini block five is pretty good takes a while though don't you want to support the Winklevii? Absolutely. The Winklevoss twins? The Winklevii. I would like to get to know those guys. Coinbase is good on the SJW question.
Starting point is 01:55:52 They ban political activism in the workplace. Nice. Oh, wow. A bunch of people quit, Herb. Wow. Hey, good for them. DJ Deliv says, How many more times will Tim say,
Starting point is 01:56:02 Spineless? I guess at least one more thanks for the super chat the last man 1984 says check out the book color communism and common sense by manning johnson the book talks about communist infiltration in the u.s very interesting the jobless coder says i live 50 yards in the church of a pastor who yelled at the cops he has been targeted for months by police arrested for feeding the homeless and i don't understand how at this point conservatives are still supporting the cops i don't get it i guess you gotta is that supporting the individual cop or the institution of policing i don't know i feel i my personal opinion is that many people are just scared to speak out of line with what their tribe says.
Starting point is 01:56:48 So I look at cops arresting small business owners, arresting a church pastor for opening their church, shutting down churches and synagogues. I see the cops in New York holding up cameras to the windows of Jewish schools to make sure the little Jewish children can't be learning and padlocking gates shut. And I'm like, at the time, we're going to have a discussion about this. We should have some reforms. But I think we need police, even when we're seeing these bad things. And then they start, you know, when they start arresting more and more conservatives and releasing Antifa, not arresting more, even when they do, the DAs cut them loose. I'm like, you guys, how could you?
Starting point is 01:57:22 I understand you want to be nice to these cops. Don't want to blame them for the fact that DAs are cutting Antifa loose. But why would you prop up a system in which conservatives will be funneled off into the prison system and the far left will be shuffled off free of – no charges, free to go? Well, it's complicated, right, because the left is pushing against the kind of policing that people want, policing in their neighborhoods, stopping actual crime, stop and search, things that actually lowered crime. But at the same time, the left putting the police you know arrest people throw people in jail for trespassing and protesting they're doing all of it yeah so the cops the cops aren't going to the neighborhoods to stop crime anymore but they're still going and arresting small business owners still to this day in the minneapolis area a woman she was uh uh you open
Starting point is 01:58:02 her wine and coffee bar she got arrested how. How, how could she make it? How could she take it this far? That's creepy. Yeah. So at this point, I'm just like, I don't, I don't know what y'all are doing. Cause sooner or later, if this system persists, it is, it is a simple algorithm. Conservatives and moderates are more likely to go to jail and get locked up. And the left is going to be released and let go. Over a long enough period of time
Starting point is 01:58:26 conservatives and moderates many who become felons for some of these charges won't be able to vote or they'll be in jail and the far left will romp around smashing windows and burning things down and the cops are the ones enforcing this stuff. No institution is on your side. I want to be like crack down on the
Starting point is 01:58:42 mob, on the violence but like I don't want to be this crazy authoritarian. Is it crazy to say that? To be like National Guard, activate, protect the country. The way to understand it is left-wing violence is speech and conservative speech is violence. That's right. That's how they understand the world. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Wicked Liss says constitutional carry has passed in texas on way to mayor who said will sign you mean governor constitutional carry in texas man if texas passes this law i'll be really excited i might move there that'd be great it's a promising law yeah all right let's see we'll do a couple more super chats what we got here maya e says please have gothics andy no and carol swain as guests love your show the challenge uh for andy well i i don't know i andy's not in the u.s anymore right i heard he was overseas oh yeah okay yeah so i'd love to have gothics though yeah um we're an in-studio show man tofu poncho says that communism line always sounds dirty to me come on babe just give it a shot you just don't like it because no one has done it right before yeah that's right okay
Starting point is 01:59:54 alessio demonte says i think this is the first time ian wants to explode but can't because the channel will be canceled it's like the third or fourth time yeah it's definitely one of them though track media only says similar as you raise minimum wage after time none uh no one is making more because money is worthless as things cost more in response all you do is make some poorer and others with expense hard asset expensive hard assets richer yeah you try explaining to some of these leftists and they don't quite understand it. Like, money is essentially meaningless. Like, a US dollar doesn't get you something. It's just, at a certain point in time, it represents a certain amount
Starting point is 02:00:33 of value. So you do labor, you get a certain amount in exchange for your labor, and then you can buy a certain amount of things with that labor, but over time, your labor becomes worth less and less and less. Money is just a trade medium that people use. It could literally be anything. It could be seashells. The idea is scarcity, so it's hard to replicate. So U.S. money is printed by the government. It's hard to make. It's illegal to counterfeit, and it's hard to counterfeit. So you know that you
Starting point is 02:00:56 have a secure trade medium. The problem is the government inflates the currency, so it loses value over time. Anyway, my friends, you must go to TimCast.com and become members because we're going to have an exclusive members-only segment coming up in about an hour. You can follow us on this show on Facebook at Facebook.com slash TimCastIRL where you can like the page and then share our clips to help spread the good word that is TimCastIRL. And then eventually people will come to Timcast.com we're going to be doing a whole bunch more stuff like I said we're going to be doing
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Starting point is 02:02:09 And for the latest in all tech news, go to Breitbart News. You can also follow my work at iancrossland.net. You can get in touch with me via a lot of social networks at iancrossland. So I'm really, really thankful. Thanks for coming, dude. That was awesome. Yeah, so I looked up that quote about them lying. It goes like this,
Starting point is 02:02:25 and it's not from Solzhenitsyn. Oh, it's not? Oh, my bad. So it's like apparently really often misquoted. It says, the rules are simple. They lie to us.
Starting point is 02:02:31 We know they're lying. They know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them. And it's from an author and artist named Elena Gorokova who lived during the Soviet Union.
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