Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #281 - Alaska Airline SWATS Woman Over No Mask, FBI RAIDS Her House w/Bill Ottman

Episode Date: May 7, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join founder of Minds.com Bill Ottman to discuss the unsettling case of the employees who tattled on a woman for being at the January 6th riot (or not), resulting in an FBI raid at her Alaska home, the conundrum of the west's ongoing collapse, how to solve issues associated with collapse, and cryptocurrencies as the ultimate government tracking tool. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So this story is pretty crazy. Apparently some lady was at the Capitol with, I think, with her husband, and they never actually went inside the building. When they were flying back, something happened. I don't know if this was on their way back, but they were on an Alaskan Airlines flight, apparently weren't wearing masks. So they got into it with one of the staff members and got booted off and banned from the airline. Apparently then, someone from Alaska Airlines tipped off the FBI, making claims that these people were the ones who stormed the Capitol, and then the, the FBI, making claims that these people were the ones who stormed the Capitol.

And then I guess are some of the people who did. And then the FBI, because this woman is of the right or similar age or whatever, decided to raid her home looking for Nancy Pelosi's laptop. It's a really weird story. And if you just look at the photos of the woman they're claiming was involved in stealing the laptop and this lady in Alaska, you can clearly tell they're not the same person. So what is going on? How is the FBI not figured out who stole the laptop yet?

How have they not figured out who was laying pipe bombs around DC that day, yet they're able to track down some of these bumbling dotards who walked into the Capitol building? Maybe it's just low-hanging fruit. Maybe the reason the FBI goes after garage pull rope is because it's easy. You ain't got to do anything. Yeah, we're going to go show up and then we're done with work. And trying to figure out who actually stole something, maybe that's really hard. Well, we'll talk about this. It's kind of a weird story, but we're going to be chilling today. It's a chill day. It's not a big news day. We're going to be talking about Dogecoin, which is skyrocketing, and Bitcoin, crypto, and just the state of social media free speech.

And with stories like this and the FBI, I've got to say it's been a bit of a pessimistic past couple of weeks. But we'll break all this down. Maybe all these people will become Dogecoin millionaires, or maybe Dogecoin is proof the system is just crumbling before our eyes because people are getting rich off of a meme. If you put $1,000 in a Dogecoin in January, you would have $1,021 right now. Something is wrong with the economy, if that's the case, I'll tell you that. So joining us today, of course, is Bill Ottman. Hey.

You want to introduce yourself? Hey, everyone. Great to be here. I'm Bill, co-founder of Minds. And yeah, Tim and I've been rocking along for a few years now, just working on changing the world, man. And Ian, of course. Yeah, Bill contacted me 2011 or something and saw some of my crazy YouTube videos. He was like, hey, help me start a new social network. You seem like a crazy guy. He had goggles on. They were like holographic goggles.

Yeah, it lets you see like a fly. It lets you see like a fly sees. It has like 40. Each lens is like broken into 40 little lenses, so you see this fractal. And when you look at a light, you know why flies like the light, because you see 40 lights with one eye. It really draws you in. There are four lights.

There are 40 lights. Ian Crossland. Yeah, yeah. Then I'm in the corner. We're going to have a fun conversation tonight. Not as heavily news focused. It'll be great. I have an amazing announcement.

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really creepy story. It's a really, really creepy story because we have a bunch of different outlets that have reported this. Did agents raid the home of a wrong woman over January 6th riot? Maybe. That's the creepiest thing about it, the maybe. The story from the hour isn't the only outlet that said maybe they did. A bunch of other outlets did. I think even the AP was like, they might have. But if you go to Anchorage Daily News, apparently one of the only outlets that actually looked into this story, they have a photograph of the woman during the January 6th rally in which Trump was speaking in DC, and a photo of the woman the FBI was actually looking

for. Here's a funny thing. Okay, so maybe they're of similar age and their hair is kind of similar. The woman whose home was raided as they were looking for Nancy Pelosi's laptop was wearing a gray scarf and I guess some kind of like low cut or V or open neck shirt. And the woman they're actually looking for has big hoop earrings and is not wearing a gray scarf and has some kind of, I don't know, weird flower pattern shirt. Clearly not the same person. So how is it that the FBI hasn't been able to

figure out who stole the laptop? They haven't been able to figure out who was planting pipe bombs. What are they doing? I guess tracking down bumbling dotards who walked in confused. So here's where it gets really crazy. Apparently in this court filing, they mentioned that it was an Alaska Airlines employee who got into an altercation with these people because they weren't wearing masks. They got banned. And then I guess this work, it's weird. Someone from Alaska Airlines looked up this woman's social media account, saw a post a few days later about being in DC on January 6th, not in the Capitol, mind you, just not in the Capitol

building, just there because Trump was was was was rallying, then called the FBI and tipped them off. And that was grounds for the FBI to go to Homer, Alaska and break this woman's door in and then go and search for a laptop. All right. Did they find it? Of course they didn't, because this was the wrong woman. And now all these these these outlets are saying, like, maybe it was the wrong woman. OK, you know what? Fine. Let's play the maybe game. Maybe this woman shows up in D.C. to hear Trump speak. And then everybody decides to go into the Capitol. So she takes off her jacket, puts on a takes off her scarf, throws it away, puts on a totally different shirt, attaches new earrings all within the span of a couple hours, I guess, while people are outside

marching around. I just find the whole thing just ridiculous. And I don't know, man, it makes me a bit pessimistic because it feels like the DOJ at this point has become completely politicized. And I'll tell you, this is going to sound totally unrelated, but it really freaked me out. We grilled today. We made burgers. They were delicious. They were local farm burgers. Apparently the local farms were telling us that, or so we were told by local farmers, the FDA has put restrictions on their ability to sell beef until recently. And I'm like, I didn't hear that. How come that's not in the news?

How come these stories aren't in the news? It really does feel like a whole bunch of weird and wacky stuff is happening, right? You've got something going on with this this arizona audit of the election the fbi flying to some woman's home in alaska desperate to find a laptop they can't figure out where it is we've got weird stuff with the dollar i don't know man it all seems unrelated but it's all to me it's indicative of like a rot in the foundation of the system yeah when you say weird things with the dollar like it's terrifying explosive inflation that's like devastating the economy and that's not being talked about so i'm not overly shocked that other weird stuff is going

on too it just feels like this is breaking apart dude it's uh let's ring the alarms the fbi can kick your door down if they think you're someone even if you just kind of look like somebody is that was that where we're at i'm not surprised that they could do this they can get a warrant from a judge and then go do it it's just it's i i'm like i'm just at this point where watching all this news every day i mean we were sitting here before we pulled up the story and i'm just like i don't even care i don't even i don't even know what's going on anymore dude it's like i can tell you a million and one things but i can tell you one thing is that antifa goes and throws rocks through windows and bashes skulls whatever happened to that that old man in kenosha got his head bashed in by some antifa nobody get arrested for that nothing

happened oh but some lady gets her it's a door kicked in it's the i i see that i see chauvin i see these these these cases i see the juror lying and And I'm just like, who has confidence in the U.S. government at this point? Aspects of it. What about what were you going to say? I mean, how do you decide what to pay attention to? Do you feel like you're feeding, like, because we are engineering, you know, consciousness by what we're covering, what we're talking about. But you need to go towards the rot, but you kind of need to balance that out. I mean I'm reading the general news, right?

So when I look at news stories, I'm looking at like all of these different stories, and I'm ignoring a lot of things I think – things I don't care about. So I don't know, stories about celebrity gossip and a lot of stories about like some Instagram model wore a bikini to the beach. And then it's like front page news and a bunch of outlets. Yeah, it gets clicks. I get it. When it comes to cultural issues, political issues, I'm trying to see what is going on and what matters most and what's having a big impact. But admittedly, I'm only able to look at what journalists are, for the most part, already doing.

Now, we are going to be launching a newsroom soon. We're going to start doing our own original reporting. But that's why I was saying it's like I brought up the beef thing. It's seemingly unrelated, but I think it's a really good example of people not realizing that I think we're being distracted by a lot of this stuff. And what I mean is this FBI thing is scary. It's creepy. An Alaska Airlines employee sending in a tip to the FBI about a woman because of a mask altercation.

That's just like really creepy stuff. Like, what was she doing? Pulling up this woman's Instagram because she was mad at her or something like that? It's weird. And then the FBI goes to her house and kicks the door and looking for Nancy Pelosi's laptop. This is like out of a bad action movie so this is this this is some of the biggest news that you hear the mainstream media talking about what's going on with january 6th oh they raided this woman's home and it was like 1984 level snitch on your neighbor's stuff which is just very strange but then i hear this i hear this today when we're like we're going we're like

hey let's grab burgers and we'll and we we'll, we'll, we'll grill and have some burgers. They were delicious by the way, local beef. And then apparently the farmers are like, Oh yeah, we weren't allowed to, uh, to actually sell any of this for a while. The FDA wouldn't let us. And I'm like, what? Yeah. It's like raw milk. I mean, just no, but it's something to do with the lockdowns. It was the lockdowns. It was COVID. And so what I'm saying is we do have these really creepy weirdo stories in the mainstream media and it's really frustrating actually when you hear like the juror in the chauvin trial not only did he lie about the

protest he lied about his shirt he's wearing the the george floyd shirt and he's like oh i don't remember wearing that and there's a video of him wearing it from a different time from like months earlier or like months later or something like that. And so we see all this stuff, and that's like where the focus is when it comes to politics, but we're not paying attention to is regulatory stuff. What's going on? Have you noticed a huge shortage of a ton of different goods? First of all, lumber is already expensive. Steel is expensive.

Food is skyrocketing, but it's not just that. Yeah, bacon is going up. We couldn't find it. You couldn't find bacon? Yeah, we went to Costco the other day and we couldn't find any bacon. And we're like, what's going on? We're in trouble. That's when things get real is when you can't find the stuff. I'll tell you what I did. I ordered a bunch of bacon I put in our deep freezer. Smart.

Yeah, because, you know, when the apocalypse comes, they say in the land of a broken economy, the man with bacon is king. I could see a pig here, to be honest. A pig? I really could. I'd love a pig. They're like dogs, kind of. Ian will get way too attached.

Dude, you'd be my best friend. Yeah, just get a pig and don't kill it. We'll just keep it around. It'll be good. No, it's just weird stuff that people aren't paying attention to. I tried buying cat food. Couldn't do it. Whoa, why?

It took like a month and a half, two months to get cat food. Wow. Yeah, so we ended up getting this cat food that Bucko doesn't like. This reminds me of if we were living on the Titanic, and this is the part of the movie where they're like, this is when everyone should be getting on lifeboats, but we don't have enough lifeboats, so don't freak everybody out because there will be a mad dash and people will smash and kill you.

So they're not telling us to get on the lifeboats. I've got huge news. Oh, what? Do you guys remember when Crowder sent me that gun? Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to tell everybody the story of what happened with Crowder sending me this gun. Actually, yeah, I'll get into the story.

But let me just say a few things. I got too excited there. And I'll just say I got to lead into it better than that. Instead of just going like, oh, that was good, though. Very exciting. I'm really excited. Okay, hold on. Hold on.

Ian's right. So I got concerned about the riots when we were in the Philly area because it's – this is the craziest thing about New Jersey. I've talked about it before. It's a duty to retreat even from your own home. Like seriously, if you are in your house in New Jersey, they say it's a partial castle doctrine state. And so I'm like, OK, what does that mean? It means if someone breaks into your home and you can escape, you have to leave your house. And I'm like, but go go where?

And it's only if it's completely safe. And so then you got to argue to a court why it was like it was a totally safe or i'm sorry it has to be like in order to be totally safe you have to leave if there's some risk to you by doing it then they could argue that you should have stayed in your home or whatever but if you can safely leave your home you have to so i'm like i don't want to be in this stuff i remember going to the stores and seeing all the shortages and everything and then thinking like man man, should we be preppers? Because it's funny. People like to make fun of the preppers, but the preppers don't care.

I don't know if you guys have seen like prepper videos recently. Yeah, they don't care what the media says about them. They're just like, whatever, I don't care. I've got a bunch of toilet paper while you guys are fighting over it. Yeah, they're living a great life growing food. I mean, why – and preparing. Growing food, living on farms, and I don't know if they think the world's going to end tomorrow, but hey, man, the dollar is in pretty bad shape. But let me tell you now.

Now that I've built the suspense up a little bit enough to talk about this Crowder thing, I got a big update on that gun that Crowder was supposed to send me. So this was like over a year ago. I think it was over a year ago. Yeah, it was. I went on Loud Earth Crowder and I don't think I had a gun at this point. I was like doing the paperwork to get one. And so Steven was like, Tim, buddy, we're getting you a gun. And he's like, we're going to send you the Sig M400. You know, it's the Cadillac of guns. And I'm like, awesome, dude. Thank you so much.

And then everybody wants to know what happened to it. And just no one ever heard about that. I've never talked about it. I've never shared it. There's no Instagram photos. It just never happened. Well, here's what happened. There apparently was only one gun shop in New Jersey that could do the modifications to make it New Jersey legal because New Jersey is a horrible state for firearms. And so Crowder's team ended up sending it to the one shop that could take it. The only problem, it was about 70 miles away from where we were. And that would mean driving for about an hour and a half in the middle of a day where I'm working mornings and nights and on weekends and I couldn't do it.

I'd have to drive up there, fill out the next background check form, drive back home, wait three to five days because I was on a delay list, then drive back and do it again. I'm like, I can't do that. Like I got a company to run. I got shows to do. There's no point in the day, which I could leave and go do this. So I told Crowder, I was like, look, I got sent to a, you know, a shop that's too far away from me. I can't go get it. Well, I got a phone call today and the shop calls me and they're like, it's been, uh, we, you know, we're cleaning out the storage room. It's been about a year and we found, uh, this, this gun and it's for you that I got, I got, I got a voicemail. I didn't, I didn't listen to it until afterwards, but I get

the missed call and I call and they're like, yeah, you know, we're cleaning up the shop and we realized we had this gun sitting here for almost a year. Do you still want it? And I was like, wow, I do want it. Can you send it to my FFL? And they were like, sure thing. So I'm finally getting it. Oh, nice. Yeah, so I checked the voicemail, and there was this woman, and she was like, it's been sitting here for a year,

and we're supposed to charge you $5 a day for how long it's been sitting here. But, you know, whatever. If you don't want it, then we're going to start charging you now. But call us back. And I was like, sure, and I called them back. And the problem was when we were in New Jersey, they had to do a bunch of modifications to it. And I was like, I can't pick this up. And then I guess they theoretically could have modified it or then shipped it out or whatever, but it just fell off.

So it's going to be coming out here. I'm surprised they didn't say we can't ship it for some stupid reason. No, they were totally cool. Yeah, shout out. They were really cool, and they were like for some stupid reason. No, they were totally cool. Yeah, shout out. They were really cool. And they were like, no, we got you, man. Don't worry about it. And so I guess the issue was when we were there, it needed to be modified for New Jersey,

which was going to cost money. And then, but now we're not. Now we're essentially between like Maryland and West Virginia. And so it's going to- What was the modification? Oh, dude, New Jersey's got like crazy rules about what you can or can't have on a gun it's just so arbitrary it's like minimal they have to make it so that when you when you pull the trigger a flag comes out with it's red and says bang on it oh otherwise

it's not legal yeah it's the only legal way to get a gun that makes more sense so jersey yeah so we're getting it and uh anyway i got all excited because uh unmodified fully unmodified fully unmodified it's gonna be it's gonna be like as it as the sig m400 comes looking forward to seeing this thing i've never even seen a picture of it uh yeah supposedly it's a cool gun looks like a gun i think you know it was supposed to be my first i guess and that's gonna be my 30th so i i want i want to circle back as as Jen Psaki would say, to this metaphor earlier I was talking about, about us looking for lifeboats, like how the government's kind of distracting us or how we're being distracted by the media when it's time to get in the lifeboats.

Yes, we're being distracted, but I want to clarify my point. I'm not necessarily saying it was intentionally misleading us. Yeah, it may not. I think everybody is hyper-focused on the same thing, and we're all staring off to our left, and meanwhile on the right, there's a volcano erupting. I have so many things to say about it. I want to read this Nietzsche quote. This is when Nietzsche was talking about the abyss.

He said, beware that when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster. For when you gaze long into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. Yes. And that's a big part of the weight of being a journalist and doing things like what we're doing is we cover dirty, nasty, painful things to hear about and to think about. And it can make you angry. It can make you edgy and lose focus on how to fix situations when you're surrounded by problems all the time.

Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, continue. Okay, I was just going to say that Michael Tracy just tweeted something about an article about journalists who are freaking out and breaking down constantly and crying. And I was like, that's because they steeped themselves in the anti-Trump bubble. And they were just stewing in it, all this TDS all the time.

And it, like, broke their brains. And there was a journalist who commented, her name's like Katie or something. And she's like, my brain broke during the trump election i was like dude whose fault is that like no one is making you dive into this stuff and just swim around in this cesspool of horrible thoughts about donald trump all the time you know yeah so you're right about that you imagine the nightmares these people were having dude i'd love i'd pay to see one of their nightmares soon you'll be able to if this neural net thing yeah there's a neural net thing that can like decode brain images like what you're seeing and then it trans like transcodes it to like a visual you know approximation i'm

just imagining you know these people all day every day just they were talking about after trump got banned they were celebrating and a bunch of people like conservatives were like that's crazy they would celebrate the censorship of a sitting president. You got to understand. These people were talking about how they would wake up in the morning and then their phone would like they would have a shortcut to pull up Donald Trump's Twitter to read what he was saying all day. It's all they ever did because their companies wanted them to do it. They're like, we got to write about what Trump is. Trump is doing because Trump makes us money.

I used to imagine these people having like, you know, we talked about the other day, Brian Stelter having a nightmare where he's like in an old rickety house. And then he's like – it's like there's like lightning strikes and there's Trump. You can see him flashing and then he's like – and then when he runs out the back door, it actually just transports him back into the front door and he's trapped in this house and there's Trump in the shadows. These people were trapped in a Trump vortex. They became the demon, ultimately. When a problem, when all you focus on is the problem, you can't live without it anymore. That becomes part of your identity.

It seems like that's what's happened and possibly is happening to people right now. Right. So I think it's both the – it's causing and a cause of the crisis, the culture war. So the more the crisis escalates in terms of the FBI raiding someone's home or Antifa setting buildings on fire, the more you will get, say, MSNBC lying about riots and then in turn, conservatives saying the media is lying, they're fake news. And so it's just a spiral that's spinning faster and faster and faster with everyone trapped inside. Do you think the censorship of Trump is working to actually have people talk about it less? Talk about Trump less?

Talk about Trump less. I think it is kind of working. I think Trump chose to kind of back off for a couple months that's the scary thing about censorship is it does work it can work in an isolated system so within the mainstream media network the big tech social media network i mean yeah you can stamp it out of those but then you know it it still has a life outside of there, but it can be hidden. I don't think censorship works. It's not true. Donald Trump just wasn't doing anything for a few months. He was just playing golf. Then he started sending out emails again, and then all of a sudden they kept talking about it again. And even when Trump wasn't saying things, they were

still talking about Trump nonstop. They were impeaching the guy they are the ones who don't want to let him go now trump launched from the desk of donald trump and then people have created social media accounts that are just reposting what trump is posting on his own site and twitter's banning them all probably because we're in a less isolated environment now with the internet because like the romans when they conquered the gauls this guy versing jeter it's like they just basically stamped out all record of those people. They censored it away. And Tartaria and all this ancient Asian cultures that are just – we don't even know what they are because they were erased by the winners.

Let's clarify something real quick. When people say that censorship works and you look at how it affects modern political discourse, it works in the sense that you hide certain things, but it doesn't make them go away. So has the tensions between the culture war, has it stopped? No, it's gotten substantially worse. But they banned all these right-wing individuals, these conservatives, these Trump supporters. Yeah, well, they still exist and they still believe things. What happened was these journalists are sitting on Twitter, rocking back and forth, like scratching their head until their skin until they're bleeding. And then finally, Twitter says we banned those people and they go, they're gone.

They're finally gone. And they're just literally still sitting there. It's just all Twitter did was like pull down the blinds. They're literally still there. You can feel the cultural tension building up because of all this stuff. So it's the pressure cooker is So the pressure cooker is on max. I used to be worried, man. That's why when you were talking about lifeboats, I thought about the gun and Crowder.

Yeah. The key is, I think, when you look at this Nietzsche quote and you really let it seep into you, if you stare at the problem all day, you will become part of the problem. You have to not – I mean, it's good to know what the problem is, but you've got to find a solution. I don't think it means you will become. It's just be careful that you don't. Some great people can probably stare into it

their entire life and not become the demon. But I think there's a tendency to. You know, this Alaska Airlines thing really unsettled me because it reminded me, not of 1984, which is technically fiction but of actual historical events like during the soviet union uh those nice people who just silently sat by while their neighbors were rounded up they didn't want to think about

politics they just wanted to go about their day and then they would turn in their own neighbors this is what gina carano got in trouble for she was right i just heard um a number that said that in the soviet union two and five people were informants for the state. Yes. That meant that somebody in your family was an informant and you couldn't talk about anything. So you're talking about censorship working. Get people in your family involved on the government payroll. See, you know why they had to round people up and send them to gulags in because the censorship wasn't working.

That's true. They had shut down any anti-state media. It was all propaganda, but people still were talking and spreading information. And then these informants would go to the state and be like, did you hear? They were just saying these things. All right.

Well, censoring isn't working. Send them to the Gulag. Got to excise them from sight was the only way. Because when you, when, when you cut out a man's tongue, you're not proving him wrong. You're only proving you are scared of what he might say.

I'm pretty sure that's a Game of Thrones quote. What's the character? Tyrion. Yeah, yeah. It's a great quote. I thought you were saying today in your video about ContraPoints was really interesting how, you know, sort of the left is calling out the free speech warriors and the right is calling out the social justice warriors. But realistically, it's – I think that those two things do exist and they're sort of both hypocritical on both sides.

But then there are elements of the right and left and center who are more nuanced and I think that that's where we all hope that we sit. But it's like I think that both sides are right to a certain degree. Sure, sure. But you look at the New York Times data. They recently did this thing where they said 38% of Democrats are in a bubble, surrounded only by Democrats, no exposure to conservatives. But it's something like 19% of Republicans are in a bubble with no exposure to Democrats. So that means that there are conservatives who overlap. Conservatives are less likely to be in a bubble and not understand Democrats. It makes sense because the old saying is that conservatives think liberals are misguided,

but liberals think conservatives are evil. To your point, here's what we see. There is a rule in the culture war when you look at the left that when a conservative gets censored, they laugh, they gloat, and they celebrate. Then you will see the rule on the right that people will immediately defend the conservatives who get censored. When the leftists get censored, it is a rule that they will scream, it is unfair, it's censorship, and the conservatives are claiming they're the ones getting banned. And it is still a rule that conservatives will defend the left when they get censored. So when the left gets censored, the right and the left scream censorship is wrong.

When the right gets censored, the left laughs and mocks the right, and the right says this is wrong. When the right gets censored, the left laughs and mocks the right, and the right says this is wrong. You don't think there are elements of the right that laugh when people on the left get banned because they think it's like karma? That's different. Yeah. So it's one thing when the left says, dude, Facebook's a private business. If they want to ban you, they're allowed to. And then a conservative goes, you got banned. I thought you said it was a private business. Serves you right. There's a difference. But there are people on the right. That's why I said it's the exception on the left are those who would defend a conservative when they're censored.

And the exception on the right is those who would mock the left when they get censored. Yeah, I think that's a good ratio. And then there's the disaffected liberals and moderates who are pretty principled straight through. I mean, the reality is that it's hard to defend free speech in an absolute sense. It's because you're put into a position where you're defending horrible ideas. It's like this burden that you have to carry around. I constantly feel that. But you have to just keep walking because we don't have anything other than our principles. But then I'm not even going to claim to be perfect because there are exceptions, which is the harsh reality.

Legality. There's legality and then there's free speech in the pure philosophical sense. There's law and there's philosophy. It's interesting in that we didn't necessarily have to deal with a lot of the creepy stuff on the internet when it came to public discourse like you know people would go out in the street and they'd show pictures of like dead fetuses and stuff and but for the most part you don't have people walking around with you know holding up big signs with like pornography and stuff on it now on social media people can just spam a button and flood a network with garbage and crap and that makes it really difficult for regular people to engage in a platform and have this kind of speech when they're drowned out.

I suppose in reality, though, the issue might actually just be anonymity or a lack of proximity. Why won't someone show up to City Hall carrying big posters of pornography? Because they'd have to be there holding it themselves and then people would see them and judge them and they'd feel bad and be worried about their access to resources when it comes to social media they use an anime avatar or you know a cat person or something and then they can post whatever they want no one knows who they are right but the paradox is that when you're anonymous, you feel the true freedom to express what you want to say. That's exactly what I'm saying.

Yeah, yeah. So people post weirdo pictures and creepy nonsense and garbage, and they flood the zone with trash. So it's simultaneously the problem, but it's also what gives us free speech. Because when you have anonymity, yeah, it causes people go crazy and like spam with like crazy insane stuff but it also is like a very important fundamental human right i like arguably if you have a totalitarian government and you need to you know organize uh a response to it and you and you if you do it if they know who you are you're dead but if you have anonymity you can do it functionally yeah like when antifa went out and burned went out and set fire to vehicles and threw bricks through windows,

and the cops couldn't do anything about it because they were all wearing masks. It's true. But I was thinking more about the Arab Spring, but yes. For good or ill, you can organize safely with anonymity. I'm in too long. The history is written by the victors, man. In these countries where they have these revolutions, when the revolution wins, the revolutionaries are the good guys. If they lose, they were insurgent terrorists and they were suppressed.

Except for Castro, because we have media now. We have TV and radio, so we can remember how... What was that guy's name? Che Guevara, putting the bullet in the guy's head or the girl's head. That image, you ever see that Che Guevara image? We're like, we love Che Guevara. People wear a shirt with his face on it. He a psychotic murder i mean he was a murderer he was he was a cold-blooded murderer but the motorcycle diaries was a sick movie

it's actually a good movie so there are the history is written by the victors but maybe the victors were the ones that built the internet yeah but listen to uh we have history of shea being a bad person because we aren't socialists, because our government was anti-socialist. So we made sure that that kind of stuff existed. But history is written by the victors, man. If the activists win, it was funny. Jack Posobiec tweeted, today will be called, like, what is it called? The Age of Dumb?

Yeah, the Age of dumb yeah the age of dumb yeah and I said yeah but if the left wins it'll be called the age of new enlightenment it'll be the great awakening

the great awokening when people finally realized what was truly happening that's what it'll be but where are the history books what are going to be the history books CNN

I know but in a thousand years what are people actually going to reference? What do you mean? Like Wikipedia? That or something more immutable, potentially. Like a blockchain? Or databases that can't be tampered with?

Right. Or if you see them tampered with, you know they were tampered with? Exactly. I disagree. I mean, there will be both. We're going to exist in both worlds. There's going to be encyclopedias that are immutable, and then there's going to be ones that are controlled by centralized authorities. Yeah, but the centralized authorities for now control the dominant narrative.

It's interesting, though. I like that phrase. If the situation was hopeless, the propaganda wouldn't be necessary. And, I mean, among my three channels we get you know i think 50 to 60 million views per month it's down a bit because i used to do three more segments every day i cut those out and i cut off weekends but we're still hitting around 50 million and so it's not the same as you know cnn on youtube gets 200 million but i think that's pretty good relative to youtube the net videos over the course of your life because you'll live longer, because you're resting a little bit more, you'll still put out the same kind of content.

No, the idea is to build something and expand and empower other people to start doing similar things like this. And so I think there's some optimism there that a show like this can exist. The problem is they've been going after Steven Crowder like crazy. And it's not for legitimate things. So Crowder is one of the biggest, I guess we can call it counterculture shows. He is a conservative personality, very funny with millions of fans and subscribers. And he challenges the establishment. And he questions the official narratives. And so what do they go after him for?

Out of context, edgy jokes or just edgy jokes in general. Or they just make things up. Like when he was quoting CDC data, they said, oh, that's misinformation. So they take his videos down. And then they boot him from the partner program. So they're trying really hard to, it's a culture war, man. How much does it cost to launch a network channel, do you think? What do you mean?

In terms of getting a channel on TV? I don't know. Let me think. I don't think it's that much. Maybe $20 to $50 million. Something for the alternative media to consider. But why do you want to be on TV? I don't know.

Maybe it's not even that much, to be honest. That's why I'm asking. It might not be worth it. But I think at this point it's probably dirt because what's the point? Yeah. The point is that I think there are millions of people who are still in that world. The newer generation is not in that world, but I don't know what the numbers are. I think a lot of people are watching digitally.

TV ratings are in the gutter. And we are going to see in the next five to ten years a major switch to digital. Who controls getting a channel? You negotiate with the provider. So you would go to Comcast and then say, we want our channel to be on your list. And then you'd work out a deal. And typically how it works is they give you a few cents per household or whatever. So it's a lot of money for some of these channels.

But then you've got to produce content. And so a lot of what we're seeing now is amazing. MTV, for instance, they just do reruns of Ridiculousness. I love it. Viceland or Vice TV or whatever they're calling it these days. Vice was supposed to have their own cable channel and they finally got it. They just started doing reruns of movies. You'd turn on Vice and it would be like Groundhog Day's on.

Yeah, that's a good example of it not being worth it to get a channel because Vice did it and it's not particularly effective. No one's going to watch it 2 in the morning or 4 in the morning so like what's the point of all that dead space well yeah tv doesn't work like you can't just pull up you know go through the channels on your phone i would think that they would the providers would start to do that so that you could just everything's the channels everything's on demand now right so hulu is way more um relevant than cable tv so if i want to watch star trek i I just go to Netflix or Hulu. I had an opportunity to do like a radio show. They were like, hey, let's do this radio show.

It's going to air at 8 p.m. on Tuesday. And I was like, okay. So it ran once at 8 p.m. on Tuesday, and it was never – you can't get it. And it felt so like I was robbed. I spent all this time recording this thing that is not now persistent on the internet like as a YouTube video that someone can click on. The value of it being there all the time transcends magnitudes more value than waiting until 9pm to see a show.

I wonder if this is all the great filter. You know the great filter? Mm-mm. You know Fermi's Paradox? Vaguely. You're familiar with? No? Yeah, yeah.

So the idea being, you know know if the universe is so vast then surely there's intelligent life if there is how can we have seen any signs of it and there's a bunch of hypotheses about what it may be and the great filter is one of them and that's when a civilization reaches a certain point and they just get filtered out of existence right something happens to intelligent species that they wipe themselves out and i'm thinking like everything we're looking at right now um maybe it's like yeast in a bottle, you know, just eating the sugars and farting ourselves to death. But in reference to what you're saying about YouTube and stuff, maybe it's just that we have billions of hours of

content every single day, every perspective. And at a certain point, there's just too much static. It's like there was a period where everything was noise. It was chaos. Then we built upon it, this civilization, this order. And then continuing our expansion of technology, it's going back to static, to noise. If you were to actually look at the raw feed of YouTube, like the fire hose of all the videos being uploaded, I bet it's nonsensical gibberish and garbage. It's like a seven second video of like a chicken looking at a camera and then a hamster just walking around.

Then there's some little kid staring at the camera confused for three minutes. And then the family – it's just a whole bunch of nonsense no one ever sees. Right. But it's both. I mean we also have so much access. I feel like I learn faster than I used to. I do. Probably not when I was a baby.

You learn the most when you're a baby. But the amount of information that we're getting now is, the velocity is so high that we're probably evolving faster in certain ways as well. I think that baby things, I'm not, look, maybe it's true. Like scientists get a baby. I recommend it. No, hold on. How long does it take a baby to start speaking?

About a year. A year. And in what way do they start speaking in a year? Just sounds that vaguely resemble... I think they say on average in 44 weeks to master a romance language if you're a Germanic or romantic speaker. And 88 weeks for an East Asian language like Chinese. So in one year, you can be fluent in German or French. A baby can mutter some words. We should do a show, a challenge of like a super smart person versus a baby. Learning a language for a year. It's not that, you know, people always

say this like, oh, it's so easy to pick up when you're a kid. Well, it's because you're not doing anything. Also, your brain is lit up like they do studies, fMRI exams on people with LSD, and their entire brains light up, and they're active like the right and the left hemisphere once, and that's how baby brains are. They haven't learned to filter stuff out. Well, they're trying to learn.

Learning everything. There's such high demand and need for them to communicate because when it's your first language, your body is forcing you to figure it out so that you can achieve certain things that you want to achieve, which you don't have that need when you already know one language. That's not true. Depending on where you live. Yeah, maybe you move somewhere and you have to. Exactly.

Yeah, that's true. And you'll pick up the language super quickly. Very true. And so I was reading. It says on average it's 44 weeks. I don't know what this study was. I read it on Reddit or something. If you speak a Germanic or Romance language in 44 weeks, you can be fluent in another language.

If you are actively pursuing and speaking and using that language, you'll be fluent. All right, well, let's launch the study. Well, I mean, I guess they already exist. How long does it take for a child to get to the point where they're having a conversation like this? Probably four years old. I mean, not like this. If four years, they can be discussing the nuance of economic policy. Probably the smartest kid in the world, I would argue, could keep up. I think around.

Smartest four-year-old on the planet. There you go. Like 10 or 11, maybe. They're having a conversation, but mostly asking questions due to their lack of exposure to information and context. So it's not an issue of ability. It's an issue of just time. We've had more time to learn things and understand history.

There are videos. There's one video of this Chinese boy playing Chopin fantasy impromptu. He's three. I'm telling you this. It's madness. I mean it's probably he's been trained by his parents in a very borderline abusive way i don't want to accuse anything but it's insane and that's something that none of us could do and it might take a decade to learn so you know there are but

that's the exception let's get back to talking about the apocalypse yeah yeah we're talking about how do we how do we start talking well we're talking about yeast farting itself to death in a petri dish, and I think this mass influence of information is causing interference in our ability. So that's the static is this weird influence. In tide pools, what would happen is organisms would live at one level of the tide pool vertically. So petri dishes are kind of one – they're only two-dimensional. They don't really have up and down. You can't really get out of it.

Normally in a tide pool, if an area of the tide pool got too acidic or too dangerous for these organisms to live, they would come together and form a new type of organism that could float up to a different strata of the tide pool and essentially evolve into a new organism collectively. They would come together and create a new organism. Now in petri dishes, you don't see that because they're two-dimensional. They don't have anywhere to go. So they eat them, so they die.

But in the tide pool, our nature is to come together, form a new species, essentially, and then move somewhere where we can thrive. I think decentralization needs to happen. It needs to happen fast. I think people need to get out of cities. I think they need to go to more rural areas. They need to start learning how to take care of themselves and be self-sufficient. And so we got rid of one of our, we have, we have, you know, two, we have, we have a front lawn. It's, there's a walkway dividing

the lawn. We got rid of one side of it and turned it into a garden. So we're gonna be growing a lot of our own food, not nearly enough to sustain the amount of people who are living and working, but it's a start. And I think people need to do that. We also have chickens. so we're going to have a bunch of eggs at some point in the next couple of months. And I think having some reliance on yourself is really important. And getting off the grid. I don't mean getting off the grid in the sense of, like, disappearing from society. I mean having well water with a filtration system and having some kind of, you know, at-home renewable of solar or wind or whatever you can get and still being attached to the grid, just having the capability to survive on your own in the event things start falling apart.

Yeah, the electric grid especially. Right. Because right now if one part of the electric grid goes down, they shut the entire grid down to repair it and take everyone's power out. It's not sustainable. Or there's a storm and it could knock out your power and what are you going to do? So I'm thinking about what we're seeing with the market. There's desperate attempts to assuage the fears of an impending market collapse and hyperinflation.

And I think it's coming. I think we're starting to see a lot of the same signs, far be it for me to tell anybody what they should do with their money. But I've been talking to a lot of my friends who are, some of them who are day traders and work in investment firms. And they bring up – every time we see a major collapse, you start seeing similar signs of the media saying, oh, no, everything is fine. There's no collapse.

Just keep doing your thing. And it's like when they start saying this stuff, everything is OK. Go back to work. Mind your own business. It happens every time. And then there's a major collapse or some kind of crash there was a case uh i was meant talking about christopher mellon who was just on rogan like a couple days ago and he told this story where because this guy worked in intelligence agencies they told him that there was a pending nuclear attack on new york

and dc and they told and so he had his whole, when, when, when, uh, I don't remember what year he said, but he, but he was told from the inside that this is likely to be happening. And so he like told his family and friends, but like he said, he was walking around sort of in a blur because he, you know, it was surreal.

He felt like he should warn people, but it's would cause more chaos. That's why they, but that did happen. That's confirmed from the inside. They knew nuclear was a, cause more chaos that's why they but that did happen that's confirmed from the inside they knew nuclear was a was a tangible threat and they decided not to tell anyone because they figured they didn't they didn't have to go five years ago ten years ago you gotta if maybe lydia can help

look up the the date but like during the i mean i think he might have even broken the news like two days ago so i'm not sure but you know they didn't have full confirmation that the attack was coming so they decided that it wasn't worth it because their level of intelligence wasn't guaranteed and then luckily it ended up not happening that's why i think you know the preppers are laughing at us because they're like you got these arrogant city folk who mock preppers and it's just like first of all why do i care what you think about me second of all when you when when the water shuts off the power goes out like when hurricane sandy hit the power went out in new york like no none of these prepper people care when there's a hurricane like and

they got everything they could they're they're they're good they go underground the jokes on the people mocking it's yeah they're not they're not prepared i mean whether like preppers truthers like when i remember when truther became a word that was like a pejorative i mean that's that's out of a fiction novel truther i mean granted okay there are there are some like crazy truthers about certain topics but like the fact that the phrase truther is used as a pejorative is insane when you just look at it from the outside. I'll tell you what's insane. There was that quote from Joe Biden recently where he's like, who needs a hundred rounds? What do you think the deer is wearing?

Kevlar. It's like your life has been so cushy and soft. You've been such a spoiled, pampered brat because you do not know hardship that you're like, why would anyone ever need to defend their lives? Well, I guess you can ask the people in inner city Chicago why they keep buying illegal guns and bringing them in and buying them because there's a lot of gun violence and they're worried. Some people are bad people and want to commit crimes and some people are worried about being the victims of crime. But that statement from Joe Biden just shows that's the mentality. They've never had hardship. Imagine spending your

whole life. I'll put it this way. I know a lot of people who never had jobs. It's crazy. 26, 27-year-old, never had a job. Why? They went to school. They went to high school. They went to college, went to a master's program, get out 24 to 26, never had a job ever. So they have no idea how anything works. They have no idea how to get money. And they're just, man, adults at 26 who don't know how to survive on their own. Now that is obvious. You can see that. You could be like, obviously, if you've never worked and never generated income, you're going to be a 26 year old with all of life's responsibilities out of school and having no idea what to do. Sure, they can teach you how to play the trombone in college or they can teach you how to set up a nuclear reactor.

But they don't tell you how to get a job or make money or set up a banking account or pay your taxes. And now you think about that and think about conflict and crisis. Not a person in this country save cops, veterans, and not even every veteran. A lot of them are administrative. A lot of cops are administrative. There is a relatively small fraction of people in this country who have actually experienced any kind of real conflict. So most people in this country are voting based on the idea that everything is and always will be fine because it is normal to not have to worry about any of these things. It's normal.

Yeah, and that's why decentralization is something you're sort of forced to learn, whether it's digital decentralization or physical with farms and stuff like you have to get banned in order or you have to know people who are getting banned in order to understand that you need to secure yourself and your communication system that's why it's funny what you you know i was talking about contra points earlier on one of my channels contra points is a leftist who if you if you look at her twitter accounts i search for free speech there's just mockery of the free speech warriors. Now, all of a sudden, after one of her videos is age-restricted, it's, we must stand up for free speech and the left must reclaim free speech. And it's like, my response is always, thank you. Welcome to the fight. Please, your advocacy for free speech is greatly welcomed.

But if only you stopped treating this like a joke in a game. And that's the point. People who weren't being oppressed, people who weren't being targeted by a system who did not know hardship were laughing at those who were saying we need to be prepared and fight this because they weren't experiencing the problems. This is the funny thing. Now you can, you can see something so plainly obvious. What do you do when the power goes out? I don't know. The power never goes out. If it does, someone fixes it for me. What do you do when the power goes out and doesn't come back on? What are you? Some kind of dumb prepper. Okay. If it does, someone fixes it for me. What do you do when the power goes out and doesn't come back on?

What are you, some kind of dumb prepper? Okay, well listen. You can keep betting on this idea that life is and always will be a golden age just for you. Or you can look at history and recognize, for one, golden age has come to an end. And two, the natural state of life

on this planet is constantly stressed out, running, and struggling to survive. I did play a game of Civ where I went from golden age to golden age to golden age to golden age for like thousands and thousands of years. What was your strategy? I don't know. I was playing on easy. It was cultural science based. Culture and science.

Yeah. Yeah, you were playing on easy mode. I think I was playing on like normal, like Prince or something, above average. Not hard. Not super hard. I think it's the same reason people sit on big tech apps, because they have no reason to leave. I mean, they haven't experienced what people involved in these issues have experienced. They're not real journalists who have experienced censorship in international countries.

I'm talking about international journalists who are like, you know, really getting censored by governments and whatnot. And so, you know, you have to experience it. You see that really, there's a really great video from last year where someone from the BBC is interviewing the president of Azerbaijan and they're like, your, your record on the, on press freedom is abhorrent. And he was like, what about Julian Assange? And then it's just like, mic drop. He's like, you've had this guy locked up for how many years, holding him as a hostage. And then you're going to talk to us about press freedoms. And she's like, well, I'm not holding them. Your country is doing it. So don't come to me and criticize me. And it's like, I'm pretty sure they have a very bad track record on journalism, so they don't get any free passes. But why should

the UK, why should any one of these countries one of these, these, these, these countries or the U S even pretend that they're doing well. Now keep in mind, I love when the left claims like press freedoms in the U S under Trump slipped worse than Somalia or whatever stupid garbage they were saying. What you have now, there was, there was a tweet from this journalist and she was like, I ordered a bulletproof vest that I need for doing journalism in America. And it was too small. And I was, I for doing journalism in America, and it was too small. And I was at one point kind of glad it was too small that my bulletproof vest that I need for journalism in America wasn't going to fit me. And I'm like –

It's too big. She was too small. She was too small? Yeah. Yeah, it was too big for her. The point is she was clearly trying to make a point about I can't believe people in America would need to wear a bulletproof vest. What do you think the world is like? This is like someone living in a Chuck E. Cheese's in the Bounty Castle being like,

why would anyone need a helmet? We're in a Bounty Castle. You want to protect your kids. Dude, outside is concrete. Like, you want to protect the minds of children. Like, you don't want to show them soldiers getting blown apart and bleeding out and stuff when they're won so that it warps their perception but you you also don't want to coddle them and not show them any of the terror of

reality in my opinion i don't have kids you have kids you could maybe talk better about this than i can um and i don't even know like how have you been navigating that if do you want to talk about that on yeah yeah like well that's kind of what was interesting about when we all first experienced the internet you know you go and you find the craziest shit that you can find i remember like live leak videos man yeah just like oh there's a guy getting murdered again it's like watching it and just like wow i could rail off two girls one cut trauma oh my gosh motorcycles hitting people in the head i mean faces of death remember that yeah yeah i don't know the answer to that i think you need to ease a brain into the reality but you

don't you don't want to shelter them too much that's for sure it's tough and easy yeah but we have a generation and we have we have what now like three generations of ever increasing um padded walls so this what's happening is now you have all of these urban liberals who it's like Wally, you know, it's like the morbidly obese people in their hover chairs floating around where things are being done for them. They live in these big cities. You know what I got to say? There's a COVID may have been really, really bad, but at least one of the positives, because there's nuance in all things. I know a lot of people are going to be like,

it's controversial to say that there could be anything good coming out of something bad. No, it's that these people in cities are going to stop wasting, stop mass consumption, and start realizing that life takes hard work and responsibility, and you can't just sit back and let someone else do it, because you know what happens when you do? Cuomo goes and kills 15,000 people. Or your guard comes and murders. They say when people have bunkers and it's the end of the world and you're relying on your hired security the hired security is going to come kill

you and take the bunker for themselves that's like part of stories what's the joke from uh somebody super chatted us this i said uh on behalf of all gun gun owners i'd like to thank the gun control advocates for stockpiling our goods for us for the apocalypse. Yeah, what do you think is going to happen when, if slash when, you know, there's a collapse? I think it's funny, too. There was a post I saw on Facebook, and someone mentioned something about, I think they were talking about, like, Dogecoin. And, like, the skyrocketing Dogecoin, you got to buy this currency or buy that currency because the dollar is in serious trouble. And then someone laughed saying, like, you guys keep talking about some kind of like disaster collapse or civil war.

And they're like, where is it? When's it going to happen? And the funniest thing about these comments that I keep hearing from people are like, where's the civil war at, bro? I'm like, aren't you the people obsessed with the storming of the Capitol on the 6th? Like, clearly we're in the middle of something. The dollar is hyper. The dollar isn't hyperinflating, but it's inflating. And the cost of goods is going way up. Now the gold lumber ratio is, you know, coming together.

I don't know necessarily it's a good thing or a bad thing, but we're seeing a dramatic shift in the economy in general. And it's, you know, the craziest thing is we've been trying to expand out here. We've been trying to find companies so we can fix the barn outside where we're going to be doing events. We can't get anybody to do it. We can't find anybody. Lumber is too expensive. Steel is too expensive. We're struggling to get things done.

And it's really, really annoying for me. But there's a shortage. We tried ordering new computer and new equipment so we can improve. People have been saying, like, the sound has issues on the show. We're like, we've got to get the new equipment. We can't get it in. Something is happening, and there is a shortage of goods and computer chips and merchandise, and all of this stuff is going down. And then you have these dumb people on the internet, hyper-focused on whatever CNN tells them, totally ignoring whatever's happening around them. Man, I can't imagine

what it's going to be like for these people when the rug gets pulled out from underneath them. That is alarming. I mean, because as you have resources to make these things happen. And so the fact that someone in your position cannot build out a barn to become more- I've called like five companies and they're like, oh man, it's steel. It's hard to get. It's really expensive right now.

Wow. And I'm like, can you send people out? Like, what do we got to do? And then, and so even with like getting the website done, it's like, it's difficult to get things to move right now. Even with like digital, with like software and stuff, it's just been very difficult to cross the board. And I remember like we, so one of the things,

one of the issues we have, the studio that we're in is the highest point of the building and so it gets really hot um so we were supposed to get some kind of like wall mounted ac unit that's ultra quiet to help circulate the air and keep it cool company just never shows up company doesn't show up they come out here like oh we're we're gonna get back to you don't show up we had more work being done company comes out one day just gone the next just don't show up and We had more work being done. Company comes out one day. It's just gone the next. Just don't show up. And I'm like, what's happening? Like, seriously, how? I'm genuinely confused by this.

No, that feels like quiet before the storm type situation. It really does. What are people doing to where the businesses aren't functioning properly? So I ordered a new machine for this studio a month and a half ago. When did I say, hey, guys, good news. In a week, we're going to be getting a new machine. Forever ago. Something like that, I don't remember.

There's a chip shortage. Oh, yeah. And so they keep saying, we're really sorry about this. Any day now, any day now, trust us. And then we'll get it shipped out immediately and just nothing. Well, I was talking to a guy who owns a Ford dealership in Norwalk. And he was saying that they just cannot get cars. I mean, unbelievable. It's like you're trying to buy the market is there trying to buy something and the supply is not this is

this is showing our softness and our like padded walls because it's not normal to have access to all that stuff like that for a golden age yeah but right that's my point my point is of a golden age no no my point is we know it we're talking about it i've i've been watching this stuff in real time so we are moderately prepared for some kind of serious downturn and i think it's funny that even after a year of a lockdown you still have naysayers who are like what are you some kind of prepper it, bro, do you remember going to the store for toilet paper last year? Do you have amnesia? What's going on, bro? Are you looking at the price of cryptocurrencies? Dude, these things aren't just going up in value because people finally realized that there are technology worth using. It's because people are scared of the U.S. dollar right now.

Dude, if you were on a beach and you saw a tsunami coming that was thousands of feet high, how would you react? And I think that's what society, people are doing in society right now. And you'd have people walking out into the water. Like their brains would break. Actually, being out in the ocean is a safe place to be. You'd take your surfboard and dive it and ride it,

ride it home? Well, not, you don't, you don't want to be hit by a tsunami, but when there's boats that are a few miles out when the tsunami comes,

they stay, you know, it goes under them or it goes past them. When you're faced with the impending destruction of everything, how would you react?

And I think these people are kind of seeing, it's such a big problem that their minds can't calculate it and so they just ridicule. There's an interesting question. I can't remember where it was posed, but they said if you were sitting in Unica City and you saw like an ICBM coming right down about to hit the downtown area from wherever you were, which direction would you run?

And the point was that if you truly understood the power and the range of the ICBM, you would run towards it. You know why? Because you'd be getting away from the blast radius? No, no, no. Running towards the explosion? Oh, I thought you meant the missile. Yeah, if you saw a missile heading towards your city, depending on how close you were to city center, you would probably want to run towards it. You know why?

To get vaporized? To get vaporized. Otherwise, you could just sit there and get radiation burns and slowly melt and suffer for several hours. So I remember, I think the New York Times did this where they talked about the blast radius of your standard ICBMs, and they talked about the different kinds of missiles,

and there's the initial blast radius which vaporizes everything. Then there's the melt radius where you would slowly just watch yourself melt in extreme suffering for like an hour. And then outside of that is the radiation radius where like you would slowly just watch yourself melt in extreme suffering for like an hour and then outside of that is the radiation poisoning where you get to live for a little while as your your dna fractures and cracks and then you just suffer for a long time so i just bring that up into your reference about a tsunami depending on where you were you can accept your

fate and try and get it over with quickly or you can run and try and survive. It's tough. It's hard to know what to do, but I think most people would just say try and survive always, no matter what. But when you're faced with something where survival is not an option and you're just like, okay, there it is. This is it. How do you respond? Do you acknowledge it? Do you still logically try and formulate a solution?

Can you? Or do you just break? I think it depends on you know you know i think it's a rhetorical question have you ever seen that that meme where it's a bell curve of iq at the very back it's this like deranged looking person who you know seems to be kind of messed up iq zero and they say god is real then in the middle it's the average iq and it's a person saying i'm an atheist and then all at the high end it's a person with a gigantic brain saying god is real yeah i think it's kind of like that.

I think a lot of really smart, and I'm not saying religious, but like a lot of really smart and philosophically mature individuals would see the sun exploding and the wave coming towards them and they'd sit down and they'd close their eyes. Then you'd have a lot of really dumb people who would probably sit down and be like, wow, and they close their eyes. And then you have a lot of average people who would be screaming and flailing and ranting, not understanding what to do. The midwwits the people of slightly above intelligence who know just enough but not enough they know enough to repeat what they've heard i think they're smart

yeah it's crazy that like not even countries are sort of immune to all this and so i think it'll be really interesting to see which countries adopt crypto and Bitcoin, because the ones that do are going to lead the future. That's just a fact. It's a more resilient infrastructure. It's better tech. So if they just ignore the problem, they're going to get left behind. If I was a conspiracy theorist, if I was to push one,

I would say that there's special interests that want a total collapse of the U.S. and the global economy so that they could have a some kind of reset like a great reason yeah maybe like a great reason that just resets global capitalism with a new system you would need a new currency and obviously the authoritarians would want to be able to track every transaction so they they would need some kind of public ledger, like a chain of maybe blocks where you can see each transaction. What would you call it, though? Well, because it's a reference to computers and- Chain block.

Well, no, no. Because it's a reference to computers but also currency, it would be something like byte or bit and then money or coins. Maybe like Bitcoin. Yeah, Bitcoin is a good one. Something like that. Yeah, Bitcoin. Something like that. Yeah, that's what I would call it. So you create a trackable currency and then wipe out fiat and put everyone on the trackable currency?

Yeah, yeah. Then you know what everyone is spending at all times. Of course, people would try and create things like Monero. They would try and use alternative currencies that retain value because they can't be duplicated. But ultimately, I think Bitcoin is going to hit a million bucks. And I think the reason it is because we need – I mean, the government would love to have this system, this global transfer of value that they can easily watch and everyone can watch. And it's the panopticon it's in yeah there are benefits to them but that's why they're going to be launching their own digital current digital currencies that are not bitcoin because they don't control bitcoin is the reality there are surveillance benefits that they get from bitcoin but they don't

bitcoin empowers the the people of the world Bitcoin is much more – Bitcoin was not created by the government in a conspiracy. That's a fact. I got to stop you right there, Bill, and tell you the currency of the people is not Bitcoin. Oh, here we go. I'm ready to fight. It's Dogecoin. I'm ready to fight. It's Dogecoin.

Can we get in the ring? Dogecoin. What you don't think – Like a big Shibu-ing is that. You don't think it's Dogecoin. Can we get in the ring? Dogecoin. What you don't think – Like a big Shibu-ing his head. You don't think it's Dogecoin? I think that it has really cool characteristics like that are fun and of the people. But it's not architecturally built for the people. Hold on.

It's architecturally built to screw people over. Hold on. All right. We'll talk about that. But let me tell you the story. Dogecoin is up 12,000% since January. Here's how much money you'd make if you invested $1,000 in January. If you bought Dogecoin at the beginning of the year,

you've enjoyed massive gains over the past four months. A $1,000 Dogecoin purchase on January 1st at a price of less than a cent per coin would be worth $121,052 at Wednesday's high of 69 cents, a gain of more than 12,000%. My friend, Dogecoin, it's going to the moon. It probably will be physically put on the moon on a thumb drive. I would not be surprised if he did that.

But hopefully he'll also put Bitcoin, maybe some mines tokens. Who knows? That would be great. But you think Dogecoin is not it? It's it for a purpose of entertainment. It's a meme. It's fun. But it's not it for like, you know, if you look at the

code of it, it's not because it's inflating. It's not maintained. It's not maintained. It's not really decentralized. It's just – So let's go one by one. How is it not decentralized?

Okay. So – It's like one guy owns the Bitcoin mining system. I'm going to bring up a – The federal Doge Reserve. The government is going to seize the guy's mining servers and then – So I'm just going to run through like quick bullet points on on doge so bitcoin is scarce there will only ever be 21 million doge is infinite the system is on track to mint 14.4 million new doge each day and 5.2 billion

each year forever okay it bitcoins issuance this is from this dude, Alex Gladstein, who knows a lot about Bitcoin. Dogecoin's issuance is unpredictable and has been altered. Bitcoin is decentralized as a result of robust architecture of full nodes. Dogecoin is not decentralized. Bitcoin has – How is it not decentralized? Here's the other thing about Doge. People are buying Doge on Robinhood. Look, don't buy crypto on Robinhood. Look, don't

buy crypto on Robinhood. You don't even own the crypto. They're holding it. You can't even get the crypto if you buy it on Robinhood. So most people who are buying Doge are buying it on Robinhood. They don't even actually own the crypto. This is why you have to control your own wallet. Like it's fine to use centralized exchanges to take custody of your crypto, but you need to set up your own wallet. On Minds.com, if you check out our wallet, you set up Metamask. You control your keys. Coinbase wallet, right? Coinbase wallet, you do control your keys.

That's a non-custodial wallet. So it's fun. Doge is fun, and it's a cool part of what's happening. Like I like Doge. But it's not a good thing to be saying that – Can't they hard fork Doge and then – Why would you do that when you already have Bitcoin and Ethereum? Because Doge could be a currency.

So can – It is. Exactly. Right. So what do we hear?fc now takes dogecoin yeah oakland a's are accepting doge at kfc this is what i'm saying it doesn't matter if it's a box of kleenex if people have confidence that the kleenex will get them a cheeseburger they will clamor for you can't have confidence the doge is going to retain its value you can't have

confidence the u.s dollar is going to retain you can have confidence that bitcoin is going to retain its value. You can't have confidence the US dollar is going to retain its value. But you can have confidence that Bitcoin is going to, in the long term, based on the structure of it. And gold. And gold. And silver or palladium or whatever. The thing about Doge is that it is more like cash, and it has the confidence of the people for a very silly reason. It doesn't matter.

People want it, and some people want to just have it for the sake silly reason it doesn't matter people want it and some people want to just have it for the sake of having it a lot do and that's why it's that's what part of why it's retaining its value because a lot of people are holding doge right and they're actually providing the liquidity for the market for all the whales who are dumping so you know the the bag you know the the the retail the people are getting left holding the bags of all the people dumping. And it's just – it's a joke. Let it be a joke. Like it really – the structure – it could be altered in the future to become better like he was saying.

The code can be altered. But there's not an active development team around Doge. Why not? There could be. If you've got a building in the middle of Manhattanhattan that's just falling apart eventually someone's going to be like this is prime real estate we can fix this up and make it something better because everybody wants honestly i hope so i hope that the development energy around doge gets revitalized and like you know similar in the way that ethereum is run. So Bitcoin is arguably more decentralized than Ethereum, but the cool thing about Ethereum is that it keeps innovating. And they have decentralized governance.

Yeah, what are they doing now? We were just talking about this the other day that in July, they're going to start deflating the currency or something. Yeah, they're introducing a new proposal which burns the base fee to the miners for all the transactions. So there will be a deflationary force in Ethereum. So that means Ethereum will just start skyrocketing in value. Who knows? It would be a pressure point to cause it to. The thing about Ethereum is there's so much developer energy.

There's so many decentralized apps like mine that are leveraging the Ethereum network. And we integrate bitcoin as well but you know doge doesn't have that energy it's fun but it would be nothing without elon let's be let's be real it would not he is the one fueling it he's gonna go on he's gonna go on snl he's gonna people think he's gonna do a dogeit. It's going to hit a buck and then the whales are going to bail out. Yes. So get ready for that and time it. I don't get –

Honestly, sell before SNL. No, I disagree. Well, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Not financial. I'm not going to give – yeah, no advice to anybody. Why does everyone say that?

Because you get sued or something? You probably don't have to. I don't know. Everyone just says it. It's a meme in and of itself. Here's what I'd say. If you can afford to keep your Doge, you should. In 2014, that's when Doge came out, right?

Was it 2014? I'm not sure. I had at some point, I don't remember when, on some exchange, I had thousands of Doge. And I was laughing how stupid it was. And everyone was laughing and it was a joke and it was like, such currency, such crypto, wow. And everyone was ha ha ha, memes, memes, memes. And then I was like, whatever. And I lost

them. I have no idea where any of these coins are. Now, it's worth 60 cents or whatever. And I'm like, it'd be sure great to know what happened to those coins. But I said about everything. I had a computer with Bitcoin on it. It got destroyed and didn't care and just threw it away because it was like a dollar worth of Bitcoin. It's not worth like a couple hundred thousand dollars and it's all gone. So that's why I'm like, you know what?

At this point, there were some other currencies that I had purchased a decent amount of like way back in the day because I was like at one at some point in a few years, one of these currencies might go from like one cent to five cents. I'll be really happy. And then I just got paper hands and I was like, I just read that Bitcoin. And I switched all the back to Bitcoin. And while Bitcoin has performed beautifully over the past several years, there are some currencies that I wish I held on to because the gains were from like one cent to like a dollar, which is way better than Bitcoin was. So now I'm just kind of like, you know, man, maybe, maybe we're seeing the doge coin memification or whatever but i'll tell you this i'm gonna keep it yeah yeah i just like you're

not gonna make the same mistake you you made the mistake before so you don't i also don't have so much doge that i'm gonna like become rich off of it or or like become poor off of it it's like maybe if i had 10 million doge or something i'd sell and be like i don't want to play that game but i don't i have very little you know most people probably only a little bit anyway that's sort of the thing that is sort of a sickness in the crypto space is actually people just trying to get 10xs right and and they're manipulators. You know, the thing that I love about crypto is that you're sort of voting with your resources. So I don't like to participate in tokens that I just think that their value is going to go up. It's not. Why are you giving energy to that? So I'm not saying

never. You know, maybe there's a place for it, but it's it bro bitcoin is changing how society works and that's why it's an amazing thing to put your money into it because you're you're helping that happen we should set up doge atms yeah i can't say good idea i wouldn't be surprised no i just can't it's so fake it's such trash it's a it's a trash coin it's the ultimate trash coin elon musk is the ultimate troll yes he's hilarious i love him and you think elon has like a billion doge yeah oh yeah It's a trash coin. It's the ultimate trash coin. Elon Musk is the ultimate troll. He's hilarious. I love him. Do you think Elon has like a billion Doge? Oh, yeah.

He probably went so hard. His kids are mining it. Oh, really? Yeah, he said it. I saw something. So you said Doge isn't decentralized. Well, there are miners, so it is partially decentralized, but it's not nothing compared to Bitcoin. So it's a variant scale of how decentralized is this token whenever you're looking at a crypto?

Right. And certain cryptos are more or less. Like are there cryptos that are completely centralized where like one person can print? That's what a digital dollar would be. So here's the problem I see with Bitcoin, though. Only 21 million coins can ever come into existence, right? Yeah, a lot of them are already gone because when Bitcoin was valueless people didn't care and lost them like that famous guy who was searching a dumpster for a a trash dump for his hard drive because it had like oh man by now that hard drive is probably worth like 100 200 million dollars

but it was like it's worth now two million dollars you need to go find that hard drive with this coins on it so there's just the natural decay of bitcoin that's good so that's deflationary but right so over a long enough period of time there won't be enough bitcoin no you just you can split it up into 100 million units a satoshi which is the smallest unit of bitcoin will just appreciate in value so it's not i don't think that the there's there's plenty of divisibility within bitcoin so if bitcoin became universally adopted around the planet with, you know, 8 billion people and people need to trade with it every day, then Satoshi would have to be worth somewhere

around like a nickel. He has a million Bitcoin or something. Satoshi? Satoshi. Satoshi. Right. So, and it's never moved. It's never moved.

And it's very important that it's never moved. Why is that? Well, because if people started to see the creator, you know, getting paper hands, that wouldn't be good. Well, so imagine Bitcoin becomes universally used, right? One Satoshi would have to be around the value of a nickel or so because, you know, as it stands today, to be able to participate in a general marketplace or labor. Theoretically, it could be around a penny per Satoshi,

but I think people don't really use pennies all that much. But there's a lot of countries where a penny probably does have a lot more value. It doesn't really matter if we're using the smallest unit in comparison to a fiat comparable. Right like right now the bitcoin market's like a little over a trillion the gold market cap for reference is 10 trillion so if the bitcoin market just gets to what gold is then we're at like 500k per bitcoin so you just start of you start thinking about bitcoin is like eating away at where resources are stored. All we need to do is 10x to get at gold. And then if you start bringing in all different financial instruments. So $500,000 per Bitcoin.

If 10x is. I think Bitcoin will be a million bucks. Oh, for sure. I think sooner than people realize. There's a model called the stock to flow model, which is like the model of Bitcoin. And because every four years, there's this thing called the halving, which is where the miners... The halvening or... Either.

Is it halving? Either. People say both. But so the rewards to all the miners drop in half. So, you know, it's more scarcity. It's more... No, no, no. It's just the ongoing rewards that they get for mining drop in half.

So they don't necessarily sell, but it just creates more scarcity. And historically, there have been two halvings so far. And after each halving over the last 10 years, you've seen an order of magnitude. And so the stock-to-flow model shows that over the next 15 years, it's going to be order of magnitude. When's the next happening? It was just a couple years ago, so it's like in a couple years. Oh, okay. So then it's going to effectively double.

So people often ask what backs Bitcoin's value. And I don't know if this is like an archaic understanding but it's the energy used to produce it so if somebody is mining bitcoin and it costs them you know sixty thousand dollars to mine one bitcoin they're not going to sell it for less than the cost of the production so then they'll put it on the market and say i gotta get at least 61k and probably more than that and then people who want to buy because they want to use it are going to have to pay the price of what the miners are asking for. Yeah, and it's potentially going to do great things for sustainable energy. Like people say, oh, Bitcoin uses so much energy.

It's like an environmental disaster, which it does use a lot of energy. It's a worth it. Isn't it kind of arbitrary? Isn't Ethereum better? Well, it's not better or worse they're different technologies for different purposes i mean you build apps on top of ethereum bitcoin is just like the juggernaut godfather of ledger for global monetary transactions that's all that it needs to be and there are like layer two things happening so that there will be other apps potentially on Bitcoin.

But it's just crazy that this is happening. It's actually – So you think it's going to help the energy situation? Well, because people – like energy can be converted into Bitcoin. So like there's – if you have a landfill and there's like methane overflow, like you could potentially throw a mine on top of that. I got it. You know what we should do? We should create power plants that recycle the heat from mining Bitcoin to boiling water and spinning turbines. Or we can put GPUs in people's homes that mine Bitcoin and the radiant heat will heat their

rooms. It's called Exergy. It's an actual project. Yeah, where your computer heats water tanks. We were just talking. Bill and I actually visited a guy in New York that was working on this. And then the tubes will go through your house, these hot water tubes. To cool down.

Warm or cool the house. Well, so you need to cool your computer. Your CPU and your GPU need to cool your computer your your cpu and your gpu need to be cooled and so the heat we want for warmth the computer wants the cold so hey there you go a lot of people say like facebook has servers in the arctic and then yep dude but that heat is valuable you just need to recover it yeah people want to heat their homes let's just do it with uh with bitcoin mining. So in winter, you make money. You're like, oh, it's getting gold.

Better make some Bitcoin. Crank it up. Yeah. No, I predict mining rigs in this compound in the next few years. This compound? I don't think so. No? Why? It's easy.

Just throw up a computer. Have fun. It costs money. Yeah, but you can figure it. There's an ROI. So Ethereum is proof of stake, though. How do you generate? Well, they're not proof of stake yet.

Right. So they're transitioning. The Ethereum blockchain is still proof of work, like Bitcoin. So these miners. So how many Ethereum are there? How much Ethereum is there? Some people, it's harder to pinpoint the exact supply in Ethereum. It is sort of limited.

I don't know the actual number. And a lot of people criticize Ethereum for that reason. But that doesn't mean that it's very inflationary, just the way that it's set up. It's harder to pinpoint the exact numbers at any given time. But they're bringing in this deflationary force. But proof of stake is basically where there are validator nodes all over the world that people run the machines.

You can run on your laptop. And if you have 32 ETH, you can stake that ETH into that validator node and basically earn... It generates more Ethereum? Yeah, you earn Ethereum for staking ETH into validator nodes. Is it generating it, or is it a fee that you're getting from the existing amount of Ethereum?

Both. Both? Well, miners... I might be wrong here, but miners are earning fees for all the transactions that are happening in the network. That's gas and Ethereum and Bitcoin miners. Actually, in Bitcoin, after all of the mining rewards are over, which is in like 100 years or something, then fees are going to be rewarding all of the miners.

But that's how it works in Ethereum now. But there are also Ethereum that are getting created as well. So it is both. I'm looking here. It says that there's 18 million Bitcoins. There's 115 million Ethereums and 129 billion. Currently, right now. Yeah, 115,768,000.

There's already 18 million Bitcoin? Yeah, 18 million. But it's going to take like 100 years to finish it because it gets harder. Right, right, right. Underneath the Ethereum, it doesn't have – like it has a scale of how far along, how many of them have been built. Although you're saying it takes longer the closer you get to the final point. It doesn't have one for Ethereum. I'm at coinmarketcap.com.

This is where I go to check out the crypto lists. It doesn't say – so Ethereum doesn't – they don't say how many they're going to print in the long run? No, I don't think so. But they also have a deflationary force in it. So it's pulling the supply down. How stupid are these NFTs, man? How stupid is art? You could make a funny temple NFT.

You're not buying the art. You're buying a link to it. In certain cases, you are like Christie's, like the famous auction house is actually combining the physical art with the NFT along with it, which is sort of like a certificate of ownership of the physical art. Right. So you can combine them. Did you ever see the beer bottle that had if you used your smartphone over it and it scanned it, it became like a movie. Like the image on the beer bottle label would animate and start moving. If you had a crypto token that could give you that authorization, so if you moused over or you went over a piece of art and you had that NFT token,

you'd be able to see the movie. What I mean is a lot of people were like, I'm going to buy this piece of art on the internet. And then a day later, it didn't work anymore because the server that was hosting it was gone. NFT was just a URL. so that can be fixed so nfts are like a token on a blockchain that reference they can reference a piece of art or a file on a bunch or something so so depending on where the token on the blockchain is referencing that file like you can reference the file on our weave or

ipfs or different like decentralized immutable file systems as well like but there are a bunch of nfts that are referencing like amazon so if it goes down then the nft yeah you see the disaster girl meme no oh yeah yeah so she sold it yeah yeah so it's like you know the photo was like a fire as a little girl and she like smiling at the camera she sold it for like 4 photo was on fire. It was a little girl and she's like smiling at the camera. She sold it for like $470,000. Was it her photo? Was it her family's photo? Do they get the rights to the photo now? They could distribute it?

Right. Did she just take it? Did someone else take the photo and then she just stole it because it was hers? Did someone buy the ownership of the photo, meaning that they can license it out now to news outlets who want to use it? It's a good question. I mean, there's a copyright chaos that is coming with NFTs because people are acting like it represents ownership of stuff that they probably don't actually own. But the thing about NFTs is that they can be used for other things. Like they could be used for an insurance product.

An NFT is just a non-fungible token. Right. There's one of it. It's just one of it, as opposed to fungible tokens like mines tokens mines.com slash token uh which you know you can create a token and they're many of one yeah they all they're all they're interchangeable so when you think about like financial markets depending on the type of asset a a non-fungible might make more sense so like the idea in itself does make sense. The craziest thing with Ethereum, why I think Ethereum is, well, let me slow down. Bitcoin is probably going to be worth a ridiculous amount of money because it's digital gold. It's a digital

asset that can't be copied and it's a way to store value. Ethereum has functions that people don't even realize yet. So what's interesting, you mentioned Minds tokens. There are a lot of social networks. We've been sponsored by PocketNet in the past, and they have their own kind of cryptocurrency and their decentralized social network. But a lot of these other... I've had conversations with other networks. I'm not going to name them because I don't want to get anybody mad or deride anyone. But I'm like, okay, so you're a social media site and you have a cryptocurrency. What does it do? And they can't give me an answer. If you produce

content on the site, you get access. And I'm like, right, what does a token do? You can trade it for money. Why would anyone want it? I trade it to someone for what? It's speculation because someone might want to hold it to become, no, okay, I don't know what that's about. Mines, on the other hand, a token is how you buy views. It's how you boost posts. It's how you buy ads. Right. So the value of a Mines token, M-I-N-D-S, is predicated upon the robustness of the Mines audience.

So if you sell, I don't know, communist pillows and Mines has millions upon millions of users, I would like to get my ridiculous communist pillow in front of these individuals. I need a mind token to be able to purchase that. Yeah. We've been all about grounding it in real tangible value. So like actually in addition to that, when you help stake liquidity into the network, you get passive boosts. So there's this like special boost slot on the main newsfeed on the sidebar that all that it does is rotate liquidity providers.

So everybody who's in that is gets based on their share of the liquidity pool, gets rotation, basically free advertising. So yeah, I mean, it's all about real value. This makes sense. Why would someone want a minds token? Well, if you would like to buy, if you'd like to boost your content, so you can get more followers and build a following, if you would like to get more views in your content, which in turn can help you generate more tokens, you buy the tokens, you boost. It's interesting because I'm looking at like Google ads, for instance. Why would I spend money boosting or promoting content on Google or Facebook?

Well, because then we get more audience. And then later on, we get more revenue from ads when we serve content back to people. And that's similar for what the Minds token does. Ethereum provides the ability for these things to function, for real exchanges of value, which means out of all the social networks where you could be producing something and making and earning, it's like basically YouTube and Mines. Because look, there's a bunch of platforms where it's like, oh, you can earn tokens and they're worth something. But I always ask people like, why do the tokens tokens have value and there's nothing really backing it? That worries me. It

makes me feel like it's not worth the investment. But if Mines keeps growing and getting more users, then there's a more likely that advertisers will say, hey, we got a network here of millions of people. And as the technology expands, it's worth holding these tokens. But beyond this, I don't want to just shout out Mines, mind you. I read this really great article. They talked about how ERC-20 tokens can be used for self-driving cars, that they can be used to authenticate certain – they can track on a ledger which car is interacting with who and use cryptocurrencies essentially as a way to map out self-driving vehicles in this massive national or international grid. So your car comes into contact with another car, and there's an exchange, and that helps them decide which way to go left, right, up, down. And then they have a ledger where they can see every single car,

and they just use a blockchain to do it. Yeah, I mean, point being, look for real value in the crypto projects that you're supporting. And, you know, yeah, there are meme projects that are fun and yeah and that there is value in that i mean you the the amount of energy that's coming into crypto because of doge like that's bringing in retail investors that is super important so it's not black or white like if doge is good or bad, but like don't buy Doge on Robinhood. Like you can never pull out your tokens. And that's just like – Robinhood –

It's just for speculation, isn't it? It's just for speculation. Yeah. But you can get Doge in certain places and get the tokens. Gemini now has Doge. Yeah. I think you can probably pull them off Gemini. You can.

You definitely can. Okay, good. Well, I want to say on Gemini, you can buy crypto and then transfer it to your wallet. I'm assuming it's true for Doge as well. I would assume so. Although, how do you set up a Doge wallet? Do you just got to use like MetaMask or Coinbase? The Ledger, you can get a cold storage one and store it on Ledger, I believe. I could be

wrong about that. Yeah, MetaMask, I don't know. You know the scariest thing about cryptocurrency is? If you accidentally send your crypto to the wrong address. It disappears forever. I know, you do test transactions for a large amount. I look back and forth for like 10 minutes with my, I'm just like.

Dude, sweating. I count and I say, J, J, N, N, capital X, capital X, one, one. And I'm like, there's a lot of money to lose. I look at the first four letters, alphanumeric, and the last four,

and if they're the same that I, but breathe easy that I copied and pasted. What if the I is actually a one? A lowercase L. Yeah. You're making me nervous, Tim. What if you're like, that's got to be a, is that an L or an I? It's funny to think that uppercase I.

If the last three characters are the same, the chances are almost, I just look at the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've not actually had any problems with this. Yeah, me neither. Your money is your money. It's up to you to protect it and control it. I've not actually had any problems with this. Yeah, me neither. Your money is your money. It's up to you to protect it and control it. I mean, it's removing banks from your equation. They are rolling out this thing called social recovery

where basically, you know, to prevent people losing millions of dollars. So basically, you would be able to pick like five people where if you do lose your device, if a certain level of consensus is met, then you can recover even if you lose your keys. So it's sort of like this. So it's like giving your,

giving your like next door neighbor keys to your house. Yeah. So, but, but giving multiple and they all have to like convene and like agree. Yeah. So it's like your, your closest friends have walls or whatever,

and they can say, we know we, we, we, we back up, you know, but they can can say, we know, we back up. But they can't have mutiny. Basically, you would have to signal. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanics.

But I think that that's a major UX problem in crypto that I think will get solved eventually. Word. How about we? Oh, yeah. Regarding the Mines token, I want to integrate it into... I don't want to pump Mines too much right now, but hey, you're here,

and I'm glad. I want to talk about it a little bit. Integrate it into the Fediverse project because, like you were saying, the utility, one token is 1,000 views on Mines, but if we extrapolate that to all these new networks

where you can interchangeably use the token... Well, so we were talking about creating an open-source package that you can install on your WordPress site that gives you a subscription feature. So any person could effectively have their own kind of Patreon without having to pay an exorbitant fee to 10% or whatever. People don't realize when you sign up for these subscription services, you're giving like 10% or

15% of your revenue to this company. And you could seriously just get your own WordPress site for dirt cheap. It's not that expensive. But I understand a lot of people like, how do I set up a subscription thing? Okay, well, we'll make this thing you instantly install, and it just turns your site into a social media page. And then we were talking about incorporating crypto, and there would be a big benefit with having it interact with the Minds network, simply because there's already users there, which means, assuming we have this up and running in some meaningful time, maybe it'll take forever, maybe it'll be fast, you could be a random person who's like, I'm going to make a website for my content. How do I get the word out for my content? Well, there's already a network that exists. So

if this content can integrate and appear on Minds through the Fediverse, then you instantly, on your own website, are getting promotion in a network. And then in turn, people can subscribe to the members only section of your site by using Minds tokens or something. And then people could be like, I'll send you a token if you show my ad on your site for a thousand views. That's already built in. I think the peer to peer stuff. It just means that your site could have display ads that could be functioning on the minds boost network so it's integrated with a crypto token already but also just to just shout out the fediverse a little bit more and explain to people like the dimensions of it so the two main dimensions of it that i can see are activity pub which mastodon uses and then there's matrix which is also federated, which is we actually just launched a Matrix end-to-end encrypted chat, which can federate with other Matrix nodes.

So if you go to chat.minds.com or you can download the Minds chat at minds.com slash mobile. But it's all these servers that are connecting, enabling communications to not be able to go down. So ActivityPub allows social networks to connect so you can post from one to another. Mastodon makes it so that – I mean, sorry, Matrix protocol enables it so I can message you from my server or a server that I'm a part of on another server, and it can't go down. So, you know, yeah, I see creators. And it's end-to-end, right? It's end-to-end, yeah.

Which means you don't have any of the information. No, that's the thing, man. We don't want people's private information. I don't, like, having access to people's private messages, why would a company ever want that? Why would Facebook and Twitter want that? That's so weird. Yeah.

Dude, they're having wars. Face CIA book. I mean, yeah, it's wild. Yeah, because I wonder. So I send myself messages on Facebook when I'm like, if there's a story or something, I'll just send it to myself so that it's there. It's easy. Yeah, yeah.

And I was looking at it a couple weeks ago, and there was a bunch of yellow boxes. And I'm like, this post has been removed for a violation of community standards or whatever. Private chat? To myself! Oh, my God. Facebook goes in my messages to myself and removed some stories. They're Facebook's messages to Facebook's self. You were just there to be the corpus to –

You want something really crazy? When I went to Venezuela, I had to flee the country because I got accused of being a spy by Venezuelan Glenn Beck. When I came back, I got a message on Facebook from a friend I hadn't spoken to in like five years. And he was like, yo, what's going on? The FBI just called me. You need to call me back right now. And I was like, what? And I was in, I was in New York. So I called him. No, he doesn't answer. I call him again. He doesn't answer. I call him again. He doesn't answer. So then a couple hours later, he calls me back and he's like, Tim. And I'm like, yeah, he's like, uh, sup you called. And I was like, yeah, what happened? You, the FBI called you. And he goes, what's up? You called? And I was like, yeah, what happened? The FBI called you? And he goes, what?

Yeah, you messaged me on Facebook, bro. What are you talking about, dude? I haven't talked to you in like five years. And I was like, shut up, dude. And so I took a picture of the Facebook message, and he was like, dude, I did not send you that. So I talked to some InfoSec experts, and they were saying that they think what happened was the Venezuelan government or some actors working with the Venezuelan government injected Facebook so that on my end, a message would appear. They wanted me to make a phone call so that their cell towers could pinpoint my location in the country.

Wow. But I was in New York. I left a long time ago, but they thought I was still there. Creepy, right? Dude, it's crazy stuff. I bet i actually still have that message oh if i got behind the scenes content i might go pull it up yeah i'll do it i'll do it for the bonus episode i'll see if i can pull it up no joke it's probably not still there no i bet it is you think so yeah like all my my messages from my friends on facebook they're they're there forever i'll look into it because look into it because I still don't talk to this friend all that often.

They're there forever except for when they delete them. Right. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. All right, we're going to read some super chats. If you haven't already, smash the like button, subscribe to the notification bell, share the show with your friends, take the URL and just paste it across the board. And it's the best way to help out. And again, you know what we're going to do? I'm going to see if I can find this message where... Yeah, I'm going to see if I can find it. And we'll have it for the bonus

segment coming up around 11 o'clock tonight. So become a member at timcast.com. We just launched Stripe for memberships. Stripe is amazing. It really, really is. I'll tell you, there's a couple of things about Stripe, which is awesome. awesome for one a lot of people don't like paypal stripe mechanically as a service i'm really impressed but more importantly the the higher ups at stripe are on twitter and i like i tweeted them and they respond and so i've had like yeah i'm having issues like we got you buddy don't worry about i'm like that is so relieving like because paypal is a big just gigantic yeah i think um the collison brothers founded yeah yeah they're pretty cool they i i'm pretty sure they're big fans of quillette Just gigantic Nameth. I think the Collison brothers founded Stripe. Yeah, they're pretty cool.

I'm pretty sure they're big fans of Quillette, which I think is an indicator that they're open. Yeah, and locals use Stripe. We use Stripe for the cash on mines as well. Yeah, the fact that I can just shoot a tweet at somebody, that's huge. So anyway, that's available now. Timcast.com.

You can become a member using Stripe. And we're going to have a great segment coming up. Let's read some super chats. And again, smash that like button. B. Anderson says, I know it's off topic, but please shout out. I started a fundraiser for my cat who broke her leg on GoFundMe search. Surgery for Fish by Ballard a oh man really poor fish surgery for fish i think we're gonna have to make sure that uh this this kitty gets all of the

help kitty needs surgery for fish go fund me there we go let's see we got here. We're going to make sure. Help, Kylo. Oh, uh-oh. Fish the pup? I thought you said it was a cat. No, that's a dog. I searched for surgery for fish, but a dog came up. Let me look up the person. Surgery for fish.

Ballard A. Found it! Kitty needs $3,149. I guarantee you by tonight, this will be completed. You have my word. I'm not asking anybody else to make any donations. If you would like to, there is a kitty who broke Kitty's leg. I don't want to misgender Kitty. So we're going to make sure Kitty makes it.

Earlier today, we got tick medicine for Bucko, and he's been licking nonstop his skin off. He has a bandana. So we gave him a little neckerchief. I put it on him so that he can't lick it. I saw him today. We had the electricians come out, and this cat walks up right behind the rear tire

and then lays down right in front of it. And I'm like, try to get up, walk out, move the cat. Because if the dude gets in the truck and the cat's laying there, it's going to be like a split second. In the winter, they'll crawl up in the engine to stay warm.

That's, don't let them out in the winter. Yeah, so we keep an eye on the kitties. Anyway, Ballard, hey, we will make sure that your cat is taken care of. Just shout out to Bucko. There's a very cute picture of Bucko on Lydia's Instagram. With his little neckerchief? He is so handsome with his little neckerchief.

I had to take a picture of him, and he came and snuggled with me yesterday. He's just my best pal. Haywood says Doge is nothing. I put 15K into Cardano ADA in May of last year. Guess how much I have now. What was it May of last year? A few cents? Six cents? I don't know. That's what I guess. Guess how much I have now. What was it May of last year? Like a few cents? Six cents.

I don't know. That's what it is. $1.70. Wow. Yeah. So trips. You have a lot of money. All right.

Ryan Brown says, how much trouble did you have in getting fit for the blades you have? I'm happy to see you tried it. Didn't know Brandon Tatum was a blader before. Oh, yeah. What do you mean in getting fit for the blades you have, I'm happy to see you tried it, didn't know Brandon Tatum was a blader before. Oh, yeah. What do you mean in getting fit for the blades that I have? Like, getting them to fit?

I'll tell you one thing. It's really annoying how aggressive inline, they, like, just fit terribly. It's, like, just awful. What is that? I don't know. I'm annoyed by all of them. Like, these things just suck to wear.

You got some, though? I got a bunch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, nice. What size are you? Me? 10. Oh, nice. All right, I just suck to wear. You got some, though? I got a bunch. Oh, nice. What size are you? Me? 10.

Oh, nice. All right, I'm going to try. Yeah. No, I got like 10 pairs. We also got some bikes, too. Want a BMX? We got to get scooters next. I love scooters. I'm just excited to have all the different disciplines.

Nice. One of the things is the ground outside is really bad, so it destroys the wheels of rollerblades, and skateboarding is really hard to skate on it the wheels of rollerblades. And skateboarding is really hard to skate on it because it's just like really old asphalt that's broken up and there's pebbles everywhere.

Yeah, it's kind of brutal. I guess we could repave. It's going to be a lot of money. But we might need to. It would just take a long time. But for bikes, that's one. I think you can do these thin coats

which aren't like a full page. Yeah, just like seal it. Yeah. But I'm excited for the BMX stuff because you can ride on it really easily. And then we had Mike Feeney jumped over the Tesla last week. It was a lot of fun.

He's a cool dude. He's a cool dude. He's inspired me to get on the bike. All right. As Zire says, hey, Tim, love the show. I'm currently saving up money to travel around and cover protests, riots, rallies, et cetera. Would you be interested in footage? How can I contact if you would like to work together?

Pitches at timcast.com. But I must warn you, we are just trying as hard as we can to grow and build, and it's like we are bursting at the seams. I wish we could move faster than we could, but you lose quality control if you just start hiring willy-nilly. So we need administrative help to start the process.

And I'm really worried about the Peter Principle. What's that? I think it's the peter principle where people hire people who are lower skilled than them until eventually you hire a bunch of just like really awful people so the idea is you always want to be hiring people who you think are better than you there's a there's these questions that peter teals speaking of peter that he always asks to people that he's hiring, which one of them is, you know, what is your most contrarian belief? But those questions, I think, for anyone hiring are worth looking up because he knows how to hire people.

That guy's an animal. You want to hire people that are going to be really, really great and be better than you and take over. You want people who want to take your job from you. For real. Not in a cutthroat way, in an ambitious, but make it stuff so the job is no longer needed. I mean, that's the idea,

is so that we can remove ourselves from the company. It'll keep functioning. Just people who can be independent and intuitive like that that's who i like to hire i mean that's why i always love working with ian because he figures it out he just and people who can figure it out without having to be able to told what without having to be told what to do yep yep all right spencer henry says the atf murdered 86 people in waco that is all that's right. And you want something crazy? My dad's side of the family from Waco.

Oh, yeah. Samuel Bonin says, putting together my game dev portfolio to submit, but wanted to gear something towards Timcast. Would you rather a demo for a ghost haunting game for the new podcast or a news tycoon kind of game? How are you at first person shooters because we have probably one of the most controversial ideas for a game that i don't i don't think i've ever publicly talked about but privately everyone's been like oof but it's like

i like that one yeah we just don't but uh we need someone who can do a very simple fps and uh it's gonna be controversial but i imagine the NRA is going to be like, we would like to promote this and have this be available. Actually, they'd probably be like, get away from us. You're controversial. Did you ever see the game Superhot? Yes, that game's awesome. It kind of makes me think of a game like Superhot.

That game's rad. Are you slow time? Have you played VR version of it? No. VR Superhot. I will if you want to. So it's like you're standing there, and there are these wireframe dudes, and they'll shoot at you, and then you literally dodge, and the bullet goes like, vroom, past your head.

Like, time only moves when you move. Yeah. It's really... So it's like you'll see a shotgun blast, and you'll be like, whoa, trying to dodge it. And you can also... I think you can throw stuff at the bullets. Yeah. And swat them and stuff.

It's really cool. So it's like you can deflect it with your guns. It's coming at you, and you go... You're like... If you move too fast, they move faster, the faster you move. So you can deflect it with your guns it's coming at you and you go you're like if you move too fast they move faster the faster you move so you can like swat it there's also a really fun game um for oculus it's the uh it's i forgot what it's called it's like a robot vr game where you're fighting robots and you can like pick them up and throw them i love that game dude vr is awesome down in the skate park where we have the basketball hoop we also have a vr set with a bunch of those

games so you're like the challenge is if you run to the left too much, you'll go up the vertical wall, and so you don't want to do that. Have you considered getting one of the straps? Straps, yeah. So like your... So you can only go a certain range, like not too far out of range. Well, you can draw it so that if you move too far, the whole thing turns red. But what I'd

love to get is one of those stands where you're strapped in, and then you can actually run in place. Jump and dock, and you have haptic feedback best where if you get hit you can feel it and like the gloves do you think it'll get to a point where you're wearing vr like to work during the day uh what do you mean like just you know as opposed to looking at your monitor just like being in vr i think so yeah especially now because uh because of covid people are working remotely so one of the problems with remote working is that we're sitting here looking at these little screens and it's really hard to build a culture and what you need to understand about building

culture in the workplace and why i'm not like i don't want to hire anybody remote i want people who want to work here they got they got to be out here because they got to be in the space for one thing you'll be in the vlog another thing is we need to just be sitting next to each other so that if someone's like, I just got a crazy idea. What if we bought a hot air balloon? If you're sitting in your apartment and you're on a Zoom meeting and the meeting ends and then you go, ooh, hot air balloon. Anyway, and you go back to eating your Cheetos, the idea goes nowhere.

But if you're hanging out in the house and people are bouncing around ideas and they're playing video games, you're sharing all of these ideas and creating an opportunity to just write things down and plan for stuff. The more the merrier, you know, to a certain point. If we could throw in contacts and then be doing this, but all of a sudden we're on a stage, a virtual stage, and we can see everyone on Super Chat in the audience. And they're throwing stuff at us. Yeah, definitely.

And they're throwing tomatoes. But the problem is if you're going to take a video of us well how would we see them they'd have to have video cameras imagine that sort of thing so imagine what i want to get at is this imagine if you have a table at home and you put on your vr headset and then you can see your co-workers sitting in front of you yeah and then you interact as if there are some shared spaces that are getting set up like that now. It's just about contacts instead of VR helmets so you can see the face. Yeah, you just need both. I could see going in, but then you want to be out. Dude, have you ever spent long periods of time in VR?

No. Long periods? I've seen videos of people that have been in for days and days and days just as an experiment. You see the chimps when they put them in VR? A little bit. I want to watch it again. Oh, we've got to talk about the mind pong with Neuralink before we go. Right on, right on.

All right, let's get to more Super Chats. In the after show, go deep. All right, we got Spenic Games says, Tim, here's to making culture. Check out my board game, Cinder Shire, on Kickstarter. It's a four-player procedural dungeon exploring game. Please check it out. Will do. Must be a hero quest.

Kyle Miller says, Tim, have you heard anything about a possible gas shortage this summer? Nothing real. Nothing in the news. I have seen it gas up 22% and people are really scared that there's going to be a gas shortage, but not enough to where I'd ever say anything like, I don't know. I will say I bought an electric car. That's right. We made a video called jumping the Tesla. Why? I bought't know. I will say I bought an electric car. That's right. We made a video called Jumping the Tesla. Why? I bought a Tesla. Why? Because I'm like, I don't want to be relying on gasoline, especially when you got like Greta Thunberg and AOC being like banned gasoline.

I'm like, eh, these people have political power and, you know, I don't know where we're going to be in 10 years. So plus, I got to be honest. I like the idea of electric. You're not really going to go on a road trip with an electric car. You can because of Tesla superchargers. You can like there's a network yeah but yeah and and they're everywhere they're seriously the charges are everywhere like no joke there's i think there's more chargers than gas stations so you'd be surprised maybe it's not true but you look at the map and it's like just red dots everywhere the issue is it does take like 20 minutes to

charge up to 80 and so a gas station you pull up there for a few minutes you you felt the tank you're good to go. You plug it in. You go inside. You sit down. You kick your feet. You look at your watch. You check your phone.

It's not that bad. $20 is okay. It's not bad. It's worth it, I think, too, because it's, like, ridiculously cheap. It's like, got to fill up the tank. Oh, that was $0.30. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty great.

But I don't want to be relying on gasoline, man. All right, Trash Panda says, Ian, you're on fire today. I agree. There are very strange things going on behind the scenes. What are your thoughts? The World Economic Forum has a page called The Great Reset. I think it's behind the scenes, which is the most terrifying thing. I can't see it.

The proprietary stuff drives me nuts. The behind-the-scenes stuff that I was talking about is like like has anyone actually gone to a farm and asked them is there anything going on they're like what are you we didn't do this oh we turn on cnn we turn on fox news and then we argue about the culture war it's like we went to go buy some like farm fresh meats and then heard from the farmers about what they're dealing with from the federal government i'm like wow why is it like is there news about that nobody cares yeah there may be a million sources of news, but there really isn't that much news. Like today we were like, what happened today? No, there's a lot of news. It's just that we're hyper focused on politics and culture.

But what's the news like Cardi B's birthday? It's like news about people and what they did. If you actually spend 10 minutes to find an amazing, beautiful story that happened today, you could do it. Yeah, absolutely. But is there ever news that's about, not about people? Yes. I found an article. find an amazing beautiful story that happened today you could do it yeah absolutely it's but is there ever news that's about not about people yes i found an article i'll tell you about it after the show cool yes all right ken duncan says you had better call crowder and tell him you are

finally getting it i'm also wondering what your uh what your favorite gun you own i have a hell of a time myself i think for me it's whichever I shot last. I'm going to say it's definitely the lever action.357 Magnum. Man, that is just so much fun. Is Crowder offended that you took so long to get his gun? I talked to him about it, and I was like, you know, he asked me what was up, and I was like, bro, I can't drive 70 miles, so get this. Because I work in the morning, and then I've got like two hours after my first shift where I do my shows and then IRL.

And I'm like, it's not enough time to get there and back. Plus, I was on a delay list at the time for Knicks. So I've gone up there, filled out the form, driven back, waited five days, gone back, picked it up. I couldn't do it. My dad was trying to get a permit in Connecticut, and it was just like it took years of going back and forth, Sheriff. It's insane. Let me just say, there's a local range

and we were running drills with our good friend from Phoenix Ammunition. I was like, I don't know, I'm not super good. These guys were really good. The dude from Phoenix would never miss. Everyone there was looking at the guy like, wow, this guy's really good. I mean, the dude from Phoenix would, like, never miss. And everyone there was, like, looking at the guy like, wow, this guy's really good.

But I just, I had a 410, a 410 lever action. And it's just so fun running and just cranking it and cranking it. And we were, I was using 410 slugs. So, a whole lot of fun.

But the.357 Magnum lever action, I just love lever action guns. They're just so much fun. That was my childhood toy gun. Yeah, right? It's a good lever action. It's like, you know, front. It's easy to use.

But it's, yeah, so I've got a ridiculous amount of guns at this point. And, you know, I think it's a Mil-Spec.308 AR-15. Yeah, it's fun. But it's like, you know, whatever. The M1A, that one's a whole lot of fun. Yeah, M's fun. But it's like, you know, whatever. The M1A. That one's a whole lot of fun. Yeah, M1A's a lot of fun. Yeah, good fun. Good fun.

Alright, let's see. Mr. Brownstuntz's malice shouted you out with Dave Smith on Your Welcome today and was so elated with your Abolish the Police message being heard by your large audience, I believe he's tinkled his sheath skivvies with a bit of joy.

Yeah, I saw someone tweeting about it. But my response is partially rooted in Michael's argument. He made a good point in the show when he said that he in New York should have the right to defend himself, but the cops won't allow him to bear arms in the Constitution as he could.

And I absolutely agree with his assessment. However, I don't believe that at the core of our ideological, you know, our worldviews, they're identical. My position is I still actually think we need police. The problem right now is the police are effectively a sorting algorithm to put moderates and conservatives in prison and let the far left go. So the cops are going to be neutral arbiters of the law. And the DA makes sure that the far left is cut loose and the conservatives and the moderates are locked up. So you look at what the FBI did today with raiding this woman's home, which is the wrong woman.

But they can't find some Antifa guy who burned a building. Nope, can't do it. So what will happen is these cops are like, I'm being good. I'm going to arrest both of you. And then the Proud Boys are the ones who end up in prison. So look, I think at this point, you've got people based on a tribe that are willing to support a system which is funneling them into defeat. And if conservatives are about personal responsibility, they don't live in large, you know, urban Democrat districts, then we should get back to owning guns and just tell people,

take care of yourself. Life is not, you know know candy canes and rainbows and you should you should you know respect second amendment keep in bare arms all right tina collette says on the trump nightmare someone is selling a trump shower curtain i want to buy one and sneak it into my tds ridden sister's bath next time i visit at 58 years old i I am still the very bratty little sister. That would be amazing. Just to film her reaction of, no! I like that. Shower curtain.

50, 60-year-olds are now understanding culture. Our grandparents didn't really get it. But now it's like older people can have fun. I'm 42, but I feel like a kid. I feel like I'm 16. I still like video games and I want to play all the time. You're an old man. For some reason, I don't know what you did,

but your camera just changed colors. Yeah, you're orange now. I'm hot. Yes. Call me back. Why is it doing that? I don't know. He left and came back and I don't know.

It's weird. All right. Drop Forge Survival says, as one of the larger prepper channels on YouTube, prepping saved my family. And from what I've been told by several others with the videos we've created, food, water supplies, and finances, because you never know.

Be well, Tim and team. Hey, appreciate it. Absolutely. Joe Macinic says, Timcast, in my tinfoil hat gorilla shirt with my wife in her diamond hand shirt, have you guys heard of Stellar Lumens? I want to hear a non-expert opinion of their token. By the way, this super chat will be worthless tomorrow. I hope not.

Worthless. Yeah, right. Oh, worthless. Not worthless. Worthless tomorrow. That's true. What do you think about Lumens? What is it?

I'm pretty sure that Mullenweg, the creator of WordPress, is involved with them. And it's a little bit more faster transactions. I don't know a ton about the blockchain, though. But it's a smart contract platform, which is similar to Ethereum. It's sort of similar to Ethereum, but faster in certain senses, but also more centralized. It's not UNC20? No. No.

All right. Tyrell Hoddle says, I am, quote, some guy in Nebraska that I've heard Tim mention a few times before. Thanks for the shout out. Just want to let you know I am out here, and I am everything you think I am. Keep doing what you are. I watch every show. Hey, really appreciate it, man. You see that Family Guy joke where Stewie says, it's like the time I watch every show. Hey, really appreciate it, man. You see that family guy joke where Stewie's like,

Stewie says, it's like the time I was in Nebraska. And then he's like sitting at a table with a bunch of guys and he's like, so, you know,

the president did this or something and they're like, so I heard this celebrity did something and they're like, how's corn doing? Oh, corn, corn.

Oh, yeah, corn's great. They're all like excited and talking about corn. That's Nebraska. So I'm sure that's exactly what you guys are like. You really get a new appreciation for corn when you see it growing in the fields and the wind is whipping through it because it looks like silk.

That's cool. I can imagine you running through a corn field. Oh my gosh, you're speaking my love language. Eric Miller says, imagine being in a meeting and people are discussing how to run your life, but you can't say anything. They could destroy everything you love. How much money would you pay to speak out? Well, free speech costs you nothing but your voice.

So I was out to eat with some family, and I was talking to some of my cousins and their kids. And we were talking. They were mentioning how their kids, their 14-year-old girl doesn't care about news at all. You'll never convince her politics is important. And I was like, oh, I can't easily. And they were like, yeah, yeah. And she was like, no, you can't. It's dumb. And I was like, think about it this way. Is there someone in your school that you really hate? She's like, yeah. And I was like, okay, imagine she makes the rules about how you get to live and what you have to wear. And she was like, what? I was like, imagine you go to school and she tells you what to wear. Would you want to be talking about have to wear. And she was like, what? I was like, imagine you go to school and she tells you what to wear.

Would you want to be talking about why? Yes. And I'm like, that's politics. So when you get older, now these other people are telling you how you got to live your life and spend your money. And you're like, who are you? So it's not so much that you don't like news and politics.

It's that you care about what's in your life and affecting your life. When you're a little kid, you don't care about the president. People can't stand these boring people talking about politics on CNN. They deliver it so blandly and like yawn. What is the root of the word politics?

What does it go back to? I don't know. Polis? Yeah, polis. The police? The people. Metropolitan. That's from the Latin.

Right, but I'm... Yeah, yeah. So it's supposed to be a voice of the people. The polls. It was stripper polls. Oh, yeah I'm... Yeah, yeah. So it's supposed to be a voice of the... The poles. It was stripper poles. Oh, yeah, yeah. And the people would all gather around it, and then while watching the beautiful women do their thang,

they would discuss... They would be discussing, like, around the water cooler the way things should be. Pole-itics. That picture of the philosophers in Greece, yes. Nathan O'Connell said, Ian, the band on the Titanic, saw their death and faced it like gentlemen.

But they still died, remember? And not everyone did on that boat. Yeah. Not Rose. You know, man. Hey, here we go. X says, dude, if you need a barn, drive up to PA and hire the Amish. They're not far, and they're good.

Oh, yeah. So we're trying to... If you've seen the vlog, we have the steel pole barn where we have like the venue in it. And we need some upgrades. And I've called a bunch of people and they just ghost us. We've had people come out and they're like, man, I can't do what you're looking for. I don't want anyone to think it's political. It's literally like either we want to build a building and they're like, we'll get back to you. And then they don't. Or they say things like, we're a local company.

We can't build what you want. You know, you guys want too much of us. We can't do that. We can't handle that. Or the cost has gotten too high. Are there different materials you could use? I mean, we just want to use steel. Yeah.

So right now it's a lot of wood. And wood is, what's the right word? Volumous. Takes up a lot of space. If we had stronger materials, we could have way more space and it'd's a lot of wood, and wood is, what's the right word, volumous? It takes up a lot of space. If we had stronger materials, we could have way more space, and it'd be a lot cleaner and better. We could build geodesic domes. We lose a lot of vertical space. Horizontal spaces, you go higher because it curves in, but they're cheap and really stable, and we could dig down also.

Maybe we just get rid of the barn and put one gigantic dome over it. I'm into it. Hey, I did some research on the history of the barn and put one gigantic dome over it i'm into it hey i did some research on on the history of the word politic uh polis meant city in ancient greek and then polities was citizen so ultimately that's where it is josh says have you ever thought about creating an erc20 token a timcast irl coin based on a smart contract to allow your viewers limited rights to support and vote for content, you could create a staking system

and apply for it to be added on exchanges. That just seems like a whole lot of issues with the SEC I don't want to deal with. I don't know. It's a lot of effort. It's a lot of effort. But, yeah, if there's real value there. Jay Otterson says,

I staked my ETH and it's just growing as I watch. You can do that right now? Do what? Stake your Ethereum? Yeah. And then it would just start growing? Yeah. Really?

Yeah. How do I do that? On Coinbase. Really? Or you can either go to a truly decentralized staking pool. Is there any risk to losing it or anything? You have to get on. There's a wait list on Coinbase.

No, there's no risk. But actually, when you stake ETH on Coinbase – so you earn like 6% a year on top. But you won't be able to pull it out until ETH2 fully launches. Oh, interesting. So it's like you're staking it. What is ETH2? It's still going to be the same Ethereum, right? Still the same Ethereum, but it's proof of stake like I was talking about.

So it's not all these you know electricity burning mining rigs all over the world it's um yeah and it's and they're doing sharding so that there can be more transaction throughput and there'll be the gas prices will be lower yep title of her page says ladies find yourself someone that loves you like bill ottman loves bitcoin I'll take it. Zach Wilkerson says, M2 money supply went up $6 trillion in 2020. Divide that by 365 and you get $16.4 billion

created per day. How much did Dogecoin create per day? $14 million? I don't remember what the number was. So what you're saying is that Dogecoin

is a more sound currency than the US dollar? You're saying Doge to the moon? Everyone should buy it. Winklevoss just posted something like that. Oh, really? Everybody buy it? No, he was just saying that compared to the dollar, it is more sound in certain ways.

Yep. All right. Stairs in a Space Gaming says, check out coin bureau and his analysis of the tokenomics of doge not financial advice all right cns he says tim i don't know why but i can't log into the site on only on my android though love the show you should get attorney tom on from tiktok so i guess there was some issue on the site where there was like a caching error of some sort. If you can clear your cookies or whatever, it should be better. Um, we're, we're, we're, I'll just keep, keep it simple. We created a very simple WordPress site. We're like here, we'll put bonus content for people. And then so many people signed up. I was like, okay, we, we, we need to upgrade the site

to handle this, this level of traffic. And then we did that. And then more people signed up. And I was like, we have an opportunity to actually create a network and start doing a bunch of unique content and this kind of site we're building can't accommodate that so we need to bring in the big guns and so we got like a really big company now who is stepping in and and we're expediting the construction of a site that should allow us to make shows everyone be patient developing websites takes a lot of labor a lot of love it's all about patience so it always takes three times longer than you think and i think in five years we're going to have some kind of netflix it's going to we're going to have a bunch of our own original content short films movies documentaries and it is going to be totally independent i'm so ready to make

movies you know it's funny is when i've had a lot of people come out here so So a lot of, a lot of, you know, prominent personalities who are signed to networks and they're like, so you've been like investors like to help you. Nope. You don't have any, no, I know no investors. How did you do all this? So I just slowly built it up over time. Wow. No, no, no, no. Totally independent. 100%. Nobody gave us any money. Zero overhead. 21st century business on YouTube. Incredible. That's zero overhead is absolutely untrue,an well not zero but it's negligible overhead no it's not your overhead was like your rent yeah when i first started yeah and you were making a lot tens of thousands of dollars a month with no like no oversight and overhead and then when you start getting to the to the point where you're running a business and hiring people overhead becomes exorbitant but you i think took it to the like as far as you could totally solo and and that i think that was in your benefit

am i the only one uh no not the only rogan kind of did it he had jamie he was paying and he has a crew that's true but he's been doing a lot of stuff for a long time and he's worked a lot of different he was already very wealthy when he went into it yeah that's true though that's true though you know he started his own thing. Yeah, absolutely. He didn't need people to fund him. So I worked for Disney, left, and then I had some money and was able to start things and not worry about it. But no investors, nobody. Phil DeFranco, same.

I don't know if he took on investors eventually. He started out as just some dude in his dorm room, basically. Yeah, what's up with that guy? He's amazing. I don't know. I haven't seen him in a long time. No, I've been hearing bad things. He doesn't come up.

Billy. On the algos, he doesn't come up as much as well i remember on the covington thing he posted a video that took the side of the establishment which was the which was untrue and there were a couple other things i guess that happened i don't know i don't really watch them anymore no i'm not trying to be disrespectful i've just been seeing comments on twitter maybe they're maybe they're not representative youtube flashed me one of those about jake paul i think on the last it is week. It is really crazy for me to look at these other YouTubers who have been around for a lot longer than me, and I get five, ten times as many views as they do. Stuff happens.

Not on one single video, but just in terms of the work that we're producing. Yeah. Quality speaks volumes now, whereas back in the day it was whatever they shoveled into your mouth in 1975 because ABC ran the airwaves, basically. Now the high-quality stuff gets caught, especially when you encourage people to share it was whatever they shoveled into your mouth in like 1975 because ABC ran the airwaves basically. Now the high-quality stuff gets caught, especially when you encourage people to share it and they share it. That's massive. Like if you really inspire someone to share it, that means a lot of people are getting inspired to share it. It's funny that even like Comedy Central now and others, they're basically producing in their houses.

So it's like they had the big production studios, all the mainstream outlets, but now with COVID, they're all home. It's just funny to see the mainstream producing out of their houses. With low quality. Yeah, with low quality. They don't know how to run a studio. They're just the face. You realize Tim actually understands the tech behind it.

Dude, me and you, neither of us were technicians when we were starting Mines. We had a super low budget. We had webcams and stuff. Thank God it's so, like me and you, neither of us were technicians when we were starting mines. We had a super low budget. We had webcams and stuff. Thank God. Tim's like a technologist. You know what cameras to get, the black magic car, the switcher,

all the lights, the LEDs. All we had to get was this stuff. And, you know, interesting people too. Navasa says, the next Bitcoin having is slated for March 2025.

Interesting. There was a super chit I just saw and it's gone so i'm bummed i don't know where it went that's a bummer oh well what did it say um i didn't get a chance to see it but i wanted to read it i don't want to say unless i can find it but i can't find it because there's too many super chats because people love us too much, which is really great. You guys are amazing. Connor O'Brien says, Bill, thoughts on the Solana blockchain?

They also handle more throughput. There's this app called Audius, which is like a blockchain sort of Spotify app that's using it. And I like Ethereum. I think Ethereum is going to make it in the long run. You know, migrating to different blockchains is just, it's all about network effects.

And I just, I don't know. I think it's a cool project and there's cool people working on it and really smart people and they're solving some problems. But I don't know. I'm not really trying to endorse or not endorse different tokens. When we were starting the Mines token and conceptualizing it still, I kept pushing, like, we should start our own blockchain. I brought it up a few times.

Right, right. People were basically like, nah, Mark didn't really think it was a good idea. No. Are you glad that— Think about how much energy it takes to get tens of thousands of people all over the world running nodes. Like, that cannot be underestimated think about how much energy it takes to get hundreds ethereum has hundreds of thousands of developers and like tens of millions of you like that it's not to say that you just go

with where all the people are but like there's a reason that it's generating those network effects but like i think that they're I'm not a maximalist. I think that different blockchains will be suited for different purposes. And also other times you don't want a blockchain because blockchains don't solve every – I won't swear. It's just everybody is like blockchain consultant, right? I remember talking to one guy and he was like, have you considered doing a blockchain website? And I was like, what does that mean? Your business should do blockchain. I was like, do you know what words are like i think you saw something on a story somewhere and now you're

just throwing the word blockchain at me because i don't know what you're talking yeah that's the most dangerous thing in the blockchain space just put the word blockchain yeah it's so it's nasty all right heather bailey says how about a four lights gorilla t-shirt love all my others i'm an artist and have a great design in mind also i love you tim but could you please stop calling me a feckless loser thanks well is it because you're a cop or what or a politician um the next shirt we're going to be doing hopefully is going to be the same as the diamond hands gorilla but it's a shiba inu head and it says to the moon and it's holding the money and a cigar so it's not going to explicitly say no you should say to the moon and I hope we can have that tomorrow because I'd love to get that shirt before Elon

goes on did you get the free the coach shirt yet? no we need something like that I'll print one on my website there you go Nambot says love all of you TNG is best but SG1 is amazing also Ian is my avatar

alright then you have magic too Love all of you. TNG is best, but SG1 is amazing. Also, Ian is my avatar. All right. Really? Then you have magic, too. There you go. All right. Come on. Where's that one super chat I really liked? I was scrolling.

I scrolled too fast, and then it was gone. Darn it. I was going to make fun of somebody from Nebraska, but it's gone. Oh, well, I can't do anything about it. Lydia, do you love crypto yet after this uh so much i do feel like i've learned a lot i sent you that eth seed a few months ago and i still have that little seedling of ethereum that i kind of want to add to my little crypto collection now so we'll see what happens all right well well here's one nebraskan rain rainforest says nebraskan here

trust me you won't enjoy running through a cornfield the corn rash is real oh i don't know i watched all those movies where they're like running through the cornfield and they're being chased by aliens or whatever if you saw it well it depends on what is sprayed on the corn i would imagine too that could be glyphosate yuck but hovering oh oh oh uh oh come on did it just jump on me again yeah i just oh here wecoat says, politics, so we have an explanation of where politics come from. Politics comes from poly, meaning city or people, and tics,

meaning evil, blood-sucking paradise. Perfect. Politics. That's right. Nailed it. All right. Sonny James says,

people don't understand there is pretty much zero to no vetting of these government contract uh contracted security security agencies like palantir palantir evolve etc it's a rubbing elbows with connected game drones missed their targets killing civilians in afghanistan up to 90 percent yikes wow ossory says ian got trumpized you're bound to get banned from social media no indeed i don't think ian's been true tomato i like trump yeah bill can't see it but

socratic disciple says politics poly meaning many and ticks miserable parasites tim you mentioned crypto bots yesterday does anybody there recommend one in particular my doggo crypto doubled from 44 to 89 love the Love the show. The show gram. I don't know about any of these programs. I just remember, I just know that they exist. I had a friend that built one one time. The algorithm that auto-trades? He built a computer program that did it for him for a while

and he's like, look, I'm getting 1%. It just sells when it's high and buys when it's low and it just automatically does it. Alright, we'll do one more just to trigger Bill here. Patrick Glass says Cardano will flip Ethereum. Okay. There it is.

So look, I mean, Cardano is a proof-of-stake blockchain that is similar. They're rolling out smart contracts. More power to them. I hope that products get built. From a developer experience,

Ethereum is just great to build on. There's so many developers working on it. There's so many tools. I don't know. All right. Justin Millis says, any word on the Ian Alligator shirt? I think we can have that one up tomorrow as well, but I think that was going to be a mug, actually.

I'm open to all avenues. I think it's a really good up tomorrow as well, but I think that was going to be a mug, actually. I'm open to all avenues. Yeah, I think it's a really good mug because it's a square comic image. Perfect. Yeah. But we'll see. Goes great on a shirt, goes great on your eggs when you're in the morning. Yeah, whatever. Ladies and gentlemen, smash that like button if you have not done so already.

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Yeah, we got to... I think Mines is a thing where the YouTube auto-posts to Mines, but IRL is not auto-posting right now. Just TimCast and TimCast. Yeah, we should fancy the IRL experience. We'll do that. Look, diversify your presence. That's what it's all about. It's not – I hate pitching.

It's not about us. It's about creating a network of networks. But Mines auto – Yeah, you can sync your YouTube and it will auto post everything, every new video. Find me at Atman, O-T-T-M-A-N, on Mines, Mines.com, slash mobile. Get the new Mines chat app, antenna encryption, rooms, file sharing, Fediverse. Check it out. Oh, and you can follow me at iancrossland.net.

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