Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #284 - State Of Emergency EXPANDS, Truckers Fear Supply Shortages With No Gas w/Daniel Turner

Episode Date: May 12, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join friend and energy expert Daniel Turner to discuss more states declaring emergencies in the wake of gas shortages and panic buying, the premonition of the news in predicting a ...gas and trucker shortage, the consumer price index and inflation as it's felt by actual people, and California's most recent trial and tribulation and what they can't seem to get right. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The state of emergency that is affecting 17 states is being expanded. Several states are now declaring their own states of emergency as around 1,000 gas stations are out of gas. And the strangest, creepiest thing about it is the media keeps saying it's not happening. There was one tweet I saw earlier from a public figure who said that in Asheville, they called 10 different stations, gas stations, and they were told there's no gas. But on the local news on NPR, nothing. New York Times put out a tweet saying there's no long lines, nothing. Meanwhile, if you look at social media, you can see people are actually starting to freak out.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Now, this may just be panic buying. And there are some photos showing that may be the case. Or it could be that we are now going into, what is it, day five or so? It was last Friday this hack occurred. They've shut it down and people are, well, maybe the gas isn't going out. And I'll tell you what's really interesting about this is there were stories a few weeks ago predicting that there was going to be a gas shortage. CNN reported on this. The Guardian reported on this. Fox reported on this. And all of a sudden now this cyber attack happens, which is really, really just crazy timing, I should say, at the very least. But it's more than just this gas shortage. We've got an escalating crisis now between Israel and Gaza.
Starting point is 00:01:09 A 13-story residential building was on video. You see it just blows up, falls over. Things are getting crazy out there. And now we're going to get weird and wild because apparently there is a solar storm on the way expected to slam into the planet. I am not exaggerating. Wow. Man, talk about it's been
Starting point is 00:01:26 a crazy week we got a border crisis we got inflation we got mass exodus from the job market we've got gas shortages there's a massive drought in california a solar storm is coming war in the middle east geez should we talk about some movies or something and get away from all this no we're gonna get serious um perfect timing joining us today is uh our good friend, Daniel Turner, who is an expert on all things energy related. Do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah, Daniel Turner, Power of the Future. It is great to be here for the third time. And when you invited me back, which I'm always grateful to be here, this had not yet happened. So it really is kind of crazy that this is happening. And this is my forte.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, there's like, talk of the Green New Deal and some other stories. I was like, oh, so we'll have Daniel come down. We'll talk about whatever because you talk about everything else as well, just general politics. And then it's like,
Starting point is 00:02:15 we're like, who do we have? We need to get somebody who's like good, talking about energy and these. Oh, we're good. We're good. We're all booked up. Great. It's kind of not a good thing, but...
Starting point is 00:02:25 No, it's just good timing. And so it's great to be back here. Thanks for having me on again. I have so many things to say. I'm going to keep it short for now. I'm Ian Crossland coming at you from iancrossland.net. What's up, everybody? Hello.
Starting point is 00:02:37 And I'm excited to hear what Ian has to say tonight. I'm just in the corner pushing the buttons for the show. Don't forget to go to timcast.com and become a member by clicking the members only button and you'll get access to our exclusive members only segments from the members area. Man, you know, aside from all of those other crazy things I'm mentioning, we still have censorship, which is a very real problem. As most of you know, you know, we got my personal Facebook page has been put under restrictions by Facebook. So in the event that we get banned or whatever, you can find us here. But with your help, by becoming a member, we're going to do a lot to expand. We're looking at funding sitcoms. We're going to do new shows. We've got the vlog,
Starting point is 00:03:11 obviously. We're going to do a lot more, and it's thanks to you. So let's just jump into the news now. The first story we have from the Daily Mail, Virginia, Georgia, and North Carolina declare state of emergency over gas shortages after colonial pipeline hack as 1,000 fuel stations run dry in Southeast as people panic by. They say Ralph Northam and Brian Kemp, governors of Virginia and Georgia, declared a state of emergency on Tuesday. On Monday, the governor of North Carolina, Roy Cooper, took a similar step to deal with the fuel crisis. Now, they're going to mention a lot of stuff most of us already know, that the pipeline was hacked. It's ransomware.
Starting point is 00:03:46 It's the largest pipeline in the country. I'm not entirely convinced. I think we're being lied to by the government. So we heard from a DHS, one of the spokespeople from the DHS, there's no shortage. We're seeing the New York Times say there's no long lines. There was another story. I can't remember which outlet it was saying there's no long lines. Everyone calm down.
Starting point is 00:04:03 But here's what I find strange. The Daily Mail is reporting it's panic buying. Why is it so heavily prominent in North Carolina? Is it just something about people in North Carolina where they're more prone to panic and buying? Is it just panic buying? I don't know. What do you think? I don't know why North Carolina in particular.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I will say the region of the country where I live and even coming here tonight, every gas station I passed had very long lines. You don't live far away from us. No. Everybody knows where we live, by the way, just so you know. And I filled up this morning. I got up early because I saw the news last night and I've been following this.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And I thought, you know what? I'm just going to get up. And the first thing I did was I took my car. I took the other car. I took our gas cans and I just filled up everything just to be safe. So was I panic buying? Absolutely. I was.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I'm sure a lot of people are doing the same. But it raises a larger question about infrastructure. And just think a couple weeks ago when the media cycle was easier, right? It's amazing how crazy and how fast the media cycle goes. When the president introduced his infrastructure bill and everyone began joking, saying health care is infrastructure and poetry is infrastructure and childhood dreams are infrastructure. No, this really is infrastructure. Like infrastructure is infrastructure. And I think one of the biggest challenges I have in my industry is that oil and gas isn't always sexy.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Energy isn't always sexy. It's not titillating. It's not guns. It's not abortion. Half the country hates it. But boy, oh boy, is it really the lifeblood of our economy and we're getting a taste of what happens
Starting point is 00:05:31 when it's tinkered with. This is what freaks me out. You remember when Greta Thunberg was like, we're not talking about 2030 or 2022. We want right now. Shut it down. You got it. Look what's happening when there's just 45% of the supply on the East Coast and the Southeast is disrupted, this is what happens. What do you think would happen if they actually got their way and shut down everything?
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah, exactly. And we have a larger energy infrastructure problem because most of our refining happens in very strategic areas. The refining happens in the Gulf because historically we imported most of our oil. It was cheaper to bring it in by barge. So you wanted it by the water and the Eastern seaboard, because it was coming from the Middle East, the Eastern seaboard was all really expensive real estate. So there was nowhere to go. So they went around Florida and they ended up in the Gulf Coast and that's where the refining is. And if you see a map of the refineries and then a map of the pipelines, pipelines everywhere,
Starting point is 00:06:26 but there really is just one pipeline from the Gulf Coast all the way, and that's Colonial Pipeline. And it is a major pipeline. Should we have built a second, a third, a fourth? Absolutely. Should we have refining in the Northeast? We should. But you also have to remember we refine a lot in the South because just in terms of chemistry, refining takes a lot in the south because just in terms of chemistry refining takes a lot of heat it's less
Starting point is 00:06:45 less expensive and more efficient to refine something that is already warm than to do it in a cold environment so of course we refine in the south so this is like the barges bring the raw the crude petroleum yes and his refineries turn it into other stuff like like gas what else do they make the the crude that comes out of the ground is refined into literally hundreds of different products. The reason why my organization, why we fight sometimes a lot of these renewable fuel standards and cafe standards is not because we don't believe in protecting the environment, but because if you are – California, for example, has over 50 different blends of oil, right, for different seasons, for different vehicles. If you're a refinery and
Starting point is 00:07:25 you have to produce 50 products, think of a bartender. It's a lot easier just to be pouring beers. But if you have to make 50 different cocktails, well, every time you've got to stop, you've got to switch. Well, every time you do that, it drives up the price a little bit, a little bit, a little bit. This one pipeline is bringing not just one type of fuel, but multiple types of fuels. And every state has their own special blend because a bunch of idiot politicians who know nothing about energy pass a law. They're like, we want the blend to look like this. And everyone claps.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And that's not it. So this pipeline isn't just like one big tube. No, it's like a bunch of small tubes in a big tube. Exactly. A series of tubes. And they have said some of the smaller ones. And I forget what there is a phrase for it. And I don't know if they're called the ancillary ones. And I forget what – there is a phrase for it.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And I don't know if they're called the ancillary ones, the secondary ones. But there is a phrase for them. A lot of those – I forget. I wish I remembered the names. A lot of them are starting to come online. But the big jammies, they're going to be offline for a little while. And that's really, really frightening. So I'm hearing people are tweeting out that we're importing gas now from Europe.
Starting point is 00:08:24 We're trying to bring in some energy. Is that true? Well, you know, this is where energy gets a little bit ugly because we've always imported, quote unquote, because we refine. So, for example, some of the big energy companies, companies really that don't like me necessarily because they don't, they will say you shouldn't ban imports from the Middle East because we refined those oil and this is bad for our company. And my response is, I'm not here for your company. I'm here what is good for America. And if importing oil from the Middle East is good for your company, what the heck do I care? Right? So, but if you're a refiner, do you want to buy Saudi oil at $9 a barrel? Or do you want to buy Permian Basin oil at $45 a barrel? I'll buy the Saudi
Starting point is 00:09:05 oil. Well, that's not good for America. They would say, well, but it's good because then we sell it cheaper into the American grid at the expense of American energy interests, right? So we do always import, quote unquote, because we refine it, but not on the Pacific coast. Alaska, think how crazy this is. Alaska sends its oil at this point now to China to be refined to come back to America because we can't build a refinery in the Northwest. They do that with a lot of products. We can't build refineries in the Pacific Northwest. The very green groups that say we need to get off fossil fuels are making us go 9,000 miles across the Pacific to refine in China.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And by the way, the Chinese refineries are environmental standards you would not believe, right? Oh, amazing. Oh, gosh. And then we barge it back to America. No, no, no. You mean like awful. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:53 It sounded like you're about to say they're so great. You would not believe how amazing. All the nine-year-old girls that work in those refineries, they get paid at least a dollar a day. Wow. Exactly. Exactly. So China then benefits from the fact that the green groups that don't allow us to build
Starting point is 00:10:09 a refinery in America, because it's bad for the environment, same with the Keystone pipeline. The very first conversation I was here, Keystone had just happened. Joe Biden shut it down. Right? Is that oil not going to Houston? Of course it's going to Houston, but it's going by train or by truck. I'm sorry, man. This is just infuriating me. Because you know what? I referred to this today
Starting point is 00:10:27 as a political drive-by. Yeah. You look at, you look at MSNBC and CNN. You have all of, all of those viewers and voters stopped watching now that Trump isn't president anymore. They based their vote off of hating somebody, not for something. And the first thing we get, and a lot of people were in favor of Joe Biden shutting down Keystone. Now Keystone's shut down. A lot of union guys lost their jobs. And now we're dealing with this crisis,
Starting point is 00:10:52 with this pipeline. Well, they're coming out and saying, there's no shortage. There's no shortage. I'm sorry if I don't believe them. I mean, there's a shortage at the gas stations. It's a fact. And for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:11:03 maybe it's panic or otherwise, they're not able to get the fuel back up there. So even if it is panic, what do you think happens? Panic should be baked into the plan. We should know if there is a disruption, panic happens. Well, thanks to Joe Biden, Keystone's not going to be available. It makes me think of don't buy them. We don't need you don't need a mask.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Remember that right when it came out? Fauci was like, Fauci said that you don't need them for two weeks they didn't want to run on the masks if they said there's an oil shortage there would be a run on the oil they don't want to run on the oil yeah and so and so it's good it's a good point fauci came out later and admitted we were concerned that medical professionals wouldn't get it so we said that and that's what i see now in the new york times that there's no long lines i think what happens is these people in media, no longer is their job to inform the population so they can make decisions for themselves. They've become the self-appointed nannies of the state where the New York Times like just tell them nothing's happening. So they stay home.
Starting point is 00:11:58 But then people who pay attention, like, I mean, you had the biggest advantage. You're the energy guy, Daniel. So when this happened, you probably got word before anybody else. And, I mean, you had the biggest advantage. You're the energy guy, Daniel. So when this happened, you probably got word before anybody else. And you're like, better go to the gas station. People are like, what are you doing? Don't mind me. I'm just filling up all these tanks. I did tell my family very early on that I want to go. And I should have made it more of a public announcement.
Starting point is 00:12:20 But yeah, a lot of this is foreseeable. No, I know. But a lot of this is foreseeable. And there is course, I know. But a lot of this is foreseeable. And there is a supply issue, right? Keystone is a supply issue. As you reduce the supply of any good and the demand does not diminish, well, the price is going to escalate. So if you could say, well, I don't like Keystone. It's bad for the environment.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I'm saying that when you take it away, you are causing a supply concern. It's still coming. Like I said, it's coming by rail or it's coming by car, by truck. But that's expensive. So we are the goal. It takes fuel to do that. It does. Of course it does.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah. The goal of the one of the jobs of the president. And this is where I do lay this at the feet of President Biden. Did he cause the cyber? I lay this at the feet of President Biden because the president, we all know, is extremely powerful and can send signals that can tank the stock market or can make industries go through the roof. Trump would tweet and people would become millionaires or lose a million dollars. And that is the power. And for good or ill, that is the power of the president.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Joe Biden has been sending signals since the campaign during transition and now as president, and he does not want to accept the consequences of those signals. So he signaled that he has no problem with any illegal immigrant coming across the border. What do we have now? Four and five times the record number of illegal immigrants. Biden, please let us in. He sent a signal, right? And people listened, and they responded.
Starting point is 00:13:42 He sent a signal that Israel is not necessarily our friend. I know that's the next topic. He gave money back to the Palestinians. He restarted that funding. He sent a signal that Israel is not our strategic partner. What's happening right now in Israel? He sent a signal on day one that energy infrastructure is not important. He signed that Keystone thing.
Starting point is 00:14:01 He sent a signal and people are responding. I tweeted, you know, I guess build back better means crumbling infrastructure, crisis in the Middle East, mass exodus from the workforce, unemployment. And I get these lefties being like, dude, it was Trump's fault or whatever. And I'm like, oh, it's a magical coincidence that Biden's policy ending executive orders from Donald Trump, the remain in Mexico, the migrant protection protocols in Mexico policy, or shutting down Keystone Pipeline, or the $300 unemployment stimulus, those policies, which he's enacted in the past several months, have no impact on those crises that are happening right now. It's absurd to think that it's a coincidence. And we had, what was it, David Frum, I think, was it Frum? Yeah. Who was like, oh, but everyone was cheering for Trump's peace in the Middle East. And it's like, oh, and then three months in with Joe Biden, it's Trump's fault now.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Of course. Amazing. It's amazing. It's a magical coincidence. It's as if they believe Donald Trump was holding the country together with a duct tape. And then as soon as he left, now all the problems are emerging. Sorry. 2019, Jim Cramer, was it CNBC, I think?
Starting point is 00:15:04 Best numbers of our lives the economy was a boom and don't get me wrong he was spending a lot of money and that bill always comes due but it's very different compared to what we saw with republicans and democrats last year just cranking up the stimulus now we got to pay for it yeah now now we have this oil pipeline it's uh crumbling infrastructure is an understatement when we have a real problem in America politically because we live in an Instagram, social media, Twitter world. It's great for fast communication and agility, but it's bad because candidates now target their entire campaign around that. Build Back Better is a wonderful alliterative bumper sticker. It is not policy, right?
Starting point is 00:15:43 And all of his proclamations. And my dad told me, Joey, and he looked me in the eye. And all those little stories are cute on the campaign trail. But now you actually have to govern. And I don't think, kind of like President Obama, I don't think President Biden really wants to govern. I think he likes the campaign. I don't think confronting a guy who is banging a straight razor on a curb,
Starting point is 00:16:04 putting in a rain barrel to get it all rusty, I don't think that's the experience was banging a straight razor on a curb, putting in a rain barrel to get it all rusty. I don't think that's the experience someone needs to actually run the country. But it was a great story, I guess. People had a laugh about it. What did he call that guy? Corn Pop? No, he called Corn Pop a name. Do you remember what the name is?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Bad dude. No, no, no. He said Esther. He called her Esther. Oh, he called her Esther Williams. Yeah. I'm happy to say I'm too young. I'm too young to know what Esther Williams is or why that was important. I think I think Joe Biden just wanted to be
Starting point is 00:16:33 president. And then I'm sure that, you know, he stands he's probably sitting in a wheelchair looking in the mirror with a smile on his face and people are running around frantic behind him. There's like papers flying and the phone's ringing off the hook. And like his assistant's hair is all frazzled. And they're like, I don't know what to do about Israel. And Biden's like, president. Come on, man. You know what? I bet he didn't even want to be president because he didn't run in 2016.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Made me think like he doesn't want it. He doesn't care. He would have run 100%. The VP comes out. They go right into it. Seamless. He didn't want it. I think the DNC hated Trump.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah, they brought him up. He was like, I have a right. He felt like a force of God. Like, this is my purpose here. I must do this. He didn't want it. He wasn't capable. He just went along. He got pushed along. Now say Donald Trump really wanted. Yes, and he still does
Starting point is 00:17:18 and he still does. Not like he was a perfect. There's a lot of people who think he's, you know, they call him the God Emperor. Most of them joking, but some people are serious. I think we would have been better off. I certainly think so. But I guess the interests of the military industrial complex types and the international monetary fund types, they weren't too happy with Donald Trump being like, America, America. They're like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:17:40 We make money off of exporting the reserve currency and putting guns in a bunch of different countries i want to talk about something really crazy check this out so everybody knows there's a gas shortage it's it's all over the news as much as the new york times and some other outlets might want to lie about it but when we're when we're look when i'm looking up stories trying to get more details on this something really interesting happens when you google search gas shortage what's the date you find on some of these stories? 1970. No, no.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Well, yeah, for sure. 1979, Jimmy Carter. Of course, of course. People are, you know, is it Biden Jr. compared Biden to Carter? And it's like, what did he tweet? It's like, I guess my tweet on this is aging like fine wine. No, no, no, no. No, the hack happened on Friday. What was Friday?
Starting point is 00:18:21 Was it the 7th? That was the 7th, yep. The 7th. So, but you Google search gas shortage, you'll find stories going back 7th? That was the 7th. Yep. The 7th. But you Google search gas shortage, you'll find stories going back to April 27th, April 29th. Whoa, whoa, whoa. How was there a news cycle about gas shortages before the hack even happened? And it's one thing if it was like a few months before they were like, economists predict. No, it's like a few days before this happened. We were getting these predictions. Check it out. CNN Business, coming this summer, gas stations running out of gas.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Check this out. ABC News, lack of truck drivers could lead to fuel shortage this summer. And we've got this on Fox Business. Truck driver, I'm sorry. Yes, it's from May 3rd. May 3rd. Truck driver shortage could fuel spike in gas prices. This, to me, is just very, very interesting timing.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Yeah. Does any one of those articles talk about why there's a shortage in truck drivers? I mean, we produce more oil and gas than ever before in the year 2019 and 2020. We never seem to have a shortage of truck drivers. Here's what ABC News says. Where do they go? As millions of Americans return to driving and planning summer road trips, experts are warning that some gas stations could face fuel shortages. Quote, we are not looking at a shortage of gasoline. Jeanette McGee, a AAA spokesperson, said in an interview with ABC News, in fact, we have ample supply in the U.S. to get to the summer and the rest of the year. What the concern is right now is a shortage of fuel truck drivers. First reported by CNN, the national truck, I'm sorry. The national tank truck carriers, the industry's trade groups,
Starting point is 00:19:48 that between 20% and 25% of tank trucks in the fleet are parked. Last year during the pandemic, many of the drivers retired or they went to different industries, and that created a shortage. Truck drivers also need special training to haul oil, and some driving schools have closed amid the pandemic exacerbating the problem some areas have begun to see the effects of the driver shortage particularly las vegas and northwest arkansas mcgee said vacation hot spots near beaches or in the mountains in particular could feel the biggest effects someone super chatted us this they said
Starting point is 00:20:19 there's a trucker shortage and it's gonna it could result in supply shortages you go to walmart already what was it you were saying you couldn't find bacon yeah we were looking for bacon actually at costco the other day couldn't find it anywhere the four pack of bacon that's like the most inexpensive bacon in the world yeah can't find the bacon that's scary the four pack of bacon yeah so so i just find it absolutely fascinating that we have these news stories talking about this trucker shortage a week ago the The cyber attack happens, perhaps coincidence, but the new emergency regulations allow truck drivers to drive more than their allotted hours. When did that regulation get put into effect?
Starting point is 00:20:55 After the cyber attack. Wow. Isn't it just, I'm not asserting anything other than what a very interesting coincidence. Yeah, we have to at least. Let me just, I'll just lay it out. Thank you, Tim. A week before the cyber attack, there aren't enough truck drivers, warns CNN, ABC, and Fox. This could result in rising gas prices, and it could result in gasoline shortages.
Starting point is 00:21:17 So how do you compensate? How would a normal person compensate for a lack of drivers? Well, outside of any cyber attack, you'd say, can we increase the amount of hours the oil haulers are allowed to drive? Well, there's a federal regulation barring that. Well, I guess, coincidentally, a national emergency or a regional emergency, 17 states and DC, and now the drivers are allowed to drive over there a lot of times. You could eliminate that problem altogether if you just built pipelines. I know. Isn't it great? It's greener. It's cheaper. It's safer.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Let me ask you. A lot of people, proponents of the Keystone pipeline said that there's actually more leaks. I think Ian brought up, you looked up, there were like 26 leaks from Keystone or something. But are there I guess per gallon, are there more leaks
Starting point is 00:22:05 from freight and and train oh absolutely and it's well documented that that pipelines are by far safer cleaner greener um and what i care most about the more cost efficient for the american consumer indisputed and and and proof of the matter is um the amount of pipeline we have i mean we have we have enough pipelines to go to the moon and back 10 times in America. We have almost 3 million miles worth of pipeline crisscrossing this country. This place we're in probably has multiple gas pipelines all throughout the walls. And people are like, I'm afraid of pipelines. Well, you can't be that afraid because you do go to your home, right?
Starting point is 00:22:42 So our pipeline capacity in America is absurd, but it is vulnerable, clearly, to cyber attacks. So Keystone was going to be bringing in from like the tar sands areas or Alberta, Canada. Yeah. The only reason why the president got involved in Keystone is because across an international border. Right. And now they're trying to use that as a premise to shut down other pipelines. But he is not a czar, nor neither president, nor Trump, nor nor Biden could go into a state and say, I want to shut down this pipeline within the state of Minnesota. That's not your prerogative. He's going to try to make it his prerogative.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And this is where, thank God, we have the 10th Amendment and hopefully a court system that upholds it and says. But, yeah, I don't know either. Isn't, I think Canada is suing now over this? Yeah, as they should, because Canada followed all of the rules to get this pipeline approved. I don't know what the statute of limitation is for a presidential executive order. They went through all the necessary paperwork starting years ago, starting in the Obama administration. Obama never rejected it. He just kept it on abeyance forever, forever, forever.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And then finally, Trump became president. Well, they were hoping Hillary would be the one to have to give the big no. She didn't win. Trump won. Okay, boom, let's get the pipeline started. So we had Max Keiser and Stacey Herbert on the show last night, and they were talking about the U.S. dollar is the reserve currency, so we've got to send it out.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Otherwise, it's not the reserve currency. So they print this money, they give it to these foreign countries to maintain the status as the reserve currency, I guess, because the U.S. doesn't make a whole lot. And we're being given all the stuff because we print money. But I wonder if, you know, and you're the energy guy. So correct me if this is not true or will not correct me. But I'll assert. I'll ask the U.S. reserve currency to have other countries do it and maintain our status abroad? I would say that they don't want to produce fossil fuels because it's one of the biggest, if not the biggest industry that is not controlled by the state.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And I think at this point, the modern Democrat Party is a statist party. And the fossil fuel, kind of what Obama did with health care, right? He wanted to centralize health care under the purview of the federal government because that's just what big statists think. Venezuela has national energy. Most of the European countries have national energy.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And I think they hate this industry in particular. Climate change and all that stuff is just a very good vehicle to accomplish what they want. And what they want is a state-run. Look, they want to nationalize the election system. You're right. They like nationalizing and centralizing everything, industry, whatever. We had this Ph.D. pathologist guy on the show, and he was talking about insect species collapse and the ramifications of human population.
Starting point is 00:25:30 It's expansive. There's ocean acidification. And I think that crisis is absolutely exploited. I know a lot of conservatives don't agree. They think it's a lot of propaganda. I think it's a crisis, and I think it's exploited to the most absurd degree. Notably, when we're talking about the border crisis, Kamala Harris was like, the crisis is caused by climate change and it was funny because conservatives predicted they were like kamala harris is going to go up on the podium and say
Starting point is 00:25:51 climate change caused the crisis and she did it and it's just absolutely absurd but they i believe they absolutely this is their go-to to seize power i'd be willing to bet has more to do with consolidating power within the state like you mentioned yeah it's just it's it's not a federal controlled industry or whatever and they want that power and climate change is a wonderful villain because it is faceless it is nameless and it and you are powerless against it so for example you take someone like gavin russen who talks about the fires in california are caused by climate change which is is crazy because southern Oregon doesn't have that level of fires. Western Nevada doesn't have that level of fires. Southeast Idaho doesn't have, southwest Idaho doesn't have that level.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Why is just California climate change? Well, now I am absolved of forest management. I am absolved of running the state because it's climate change. Remember when they criticized Trump? Trump tweeted out, you know, it's poor forest management. They're like, oh, geez, Trump's so dumb. And there's actually an article from like a year before. It was like California is not managing their forests properly.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It's going to result in fires. Not only that, but I think one of the wildfires was caused by an electrical company not shutting off the grid properly. PG&E. Yeah, so it like sparked and like ignited things. And they're like well clearly that was because of the you know the co2 levels but i'll tell you this look i think you know i talked to some very smart people and they say there's concerns about what happens you have too
Starting point is 00:27:13 many people it's not it's you know a lot of people think overpopulation is like we're all standing shoulder to shoulder no it's just a lot of waste is produced and it can upset the upset the delicate balance of an ecosystem unfortunately for the people who are environmentalists and really advocating for this stuff, I got to say, you have lost the trust of so many people when Barack Obama buys beachfront property, when these wealthy investors go and buy Miami beach property while complaining that Miami is sinking. I'm sorry, dude, it's really hard to generate trust. And if you're somebody who wants, you know, Republican, these Democrats are like Republicans got to get on board and fight climate change. Well, you got to start with,
Starting point is 00:27:48 you know, your your thought leaders not flying in private jets, not owning massive 50 bedroom homes and not buying this beachfront property. I saw this video is actually really compelling, not in the way I think a lot of conservatives expected it to be for me. There's a guy, he's a financial guy, and he says the one thing that he believes disproves climate change is that in Miami Beach, they're still selling these multi-million dollar expensive properties. And these very wealthy individuals who are supposed to be in the know are buying them on 30-year mortgages. And he says, how is it when they receive like a prospectus or like an investment packet, it doesn't say warning in 10 years, this will be underwater and worth zero.
Starting point is 00:28:29 How is that? Well, when I saw that, what it said to me was these people either don't believe their own pitches or they're absolutely just willing to exploit people by buying property they know is going to be bunk and then selling it later or just going like extracting as much as they can from the system as they ride it all the way to the gutter. Well, I mean, this administration is making a huge push that all industry, all business has to have a climate component and the products you create, whatever you manufacture, the effect on the climate has to be built into price. Real estate seems to be exempt from that. So you're absolutely right. Like if you're Bank of America and you're like, we can't finance this because it's bad for climate change. Well, you gave a 30-year mortgage on a house in an area that's going to be underwater in 15. Is that a good investment of your money? So you're right.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Like I'm not saying that this should happen, but I'm saying it's funny that the banks are not pricing real estate into this industry. I got a solution. What's the regulatory body that deals with – would that be the SEC or would that be the FT? It wouldn't be the FTC, would it? It wouldn't be the SEC. Dealing with like when a bank gives out a bunk loan. Isn't that FDIC?
Starting point is 00:29:35 FDIC? I think so. That's insurance. Okay. How about this? Here's what I got to say. Probably SEC, banking. SEC?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Securities and Exchange. That's a security. I can imagine. Maybe a little bit of both of FTC. How about this conservatives and democrats can come together okay not the ultra rich property owners just the regular working class people disagree and here's one issue they can come together on these banks that are giving out loans on these properties in miami beach on 30-year mortgages or even 15-year mortgages. How about we send the feds after them for fraud? And I think the Democrats who think climate change is a serious problem, we've got
Starting point is 00:30:10 12 years left, would agree. And I think the conservatives who see these people as exploiting the crisis in order to make for personal gain, hey, why not? If these people want to come out and say, oh, there's a big crisis, but then they're selling these expensive properties and giving out these loans, send the feds after them. They'll give them a million dollar loan. They're like, you know what? If it goes underwater in 15 years, my dollar is going to be worth a hundred million dollars anyway because of inflation. So I'll just pay off that loan. Not even that. Calculated risk loss. I'd be willing to bet the banks are like, look, in the event that it's underwater in 15 years, we just get the taxpayer to bail it out. You're fine.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah. It'll be a crisis. FEMA will come in. They'll start building these emergency sea walls for you. You don't got to worry about a thing and it won't come out of your pocket. The government will keep printing money for you in the banks. It's the poor people who got to work extra hard to get that emergency, you know, the emergency circumstance solved. Yeah, there's just there's there's not physical evidence of climate change. And now someone is listening to this right now and their head is about to explode. Media Matters just clipped that in their life. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:11 But I mean, they'll show you the California wildfires. They'll talk about, and we hear this phrase all the time, especially from this administration, the severity and the intensity and the frequency of storms. If you look at 30 year of tornadoes, of hurricanes, there is no more severity, intensity or frequency of storms. If you look at 30 year of tornadoes, of hurricanes, there is no more severity, intensity, or frequency of storms. The data is fairly flat. There are bad years. Absolutely, there are some really bad years. There are some empty years. But over 30, 40, 50 years, the data is pretty evident. And for me, the biggest evidence that this climate change thing is used, I'm not saying climate change doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I'm saying the way it is, it is used by the left for political purposes. For me, the biggest evidence is that the same bodies that have been talking about climate change for most of my life now, I was a sophomore in high school the first time I heard about global warming and United Nations Environmental Program, UNEP. You can still see the article online. They talk about we have 10 years left to fix this. 1989 shows you my age. By the year 2000, the Maldives were going to be underwater. They said half of Bangladesh was going to be underwater.
Starting point is 00:32:15 They talked about huge catastrophe. Not only did it not come true, but those agencies have never said why their data was so wrong. What formulation did they use? What algorithms so wrong. What formulation did they use? What algorithms? What calculation and modeling did they use? And how did they fix it? I've never been able to see their fixed. Show your work.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And they don't. When I was in grade school, they had us go over a prediction for peak oil consumption. Yeah. Jimmy Carter said it was by the year 2000 in 76 when he was running for reelection. I don't remember exactly, but I think it was like 2010. It was like the bell curve was crashing. The curve was crashing and it was like there's no oil left and that's when we're screwed i grew up thinking oil and gas were finite commodities that would be exhausted i'm at the point now that i think they're not infinite but they're clearly
Starting point is 00:32:58 replenishing because we find more oil and gas every time we turn around oh it's ridiculous i think there's probably a lot yes but i also think think that we've been able to synthesize it. And so this idea that we have to dramatically transform the whole planet because of the fear of like peak oil or whatever, we could synthesize it and maintain our current infrastructure. It'd just be different. I have no problem with going green as a concept. I have nothing against solar and wind. One of the things I try to do is say we have to see the costs and not just the physical dollar costs, but the costs to human flourishing if we do this, because there
Starting point is 00:33:38 is going to be a lot of suffering. You mentioned right now when Greta said, I'm talking right now, no more oil and gas. Well, there's a lot of people right now who are experiencing it. Millions would die. Literally. Overnight. No joke. Literally. The people who require insulin, it's got to be refrigerated.
Starting point is 00:33:55 What do these people think the power plants run on? Farts? Some smug sense of self-satisfaction of these. Oh, we'll build solar plants at night? You have no batteries? I love the idea of new technology i don't like the idea of holding back development for the sake of existing you know i don't like the argument like oh no we got to protect jobs we do i think we should have new technology nuclear fusion whatever but this idea that you can come out right now and just shut it down okay well people will starve to death people will freeze
Starting point is 00:34:24 to death diabetics will all die because they won't be able to refrigerate their insulin. We've never advanced as a society by banning something that is currently in use. We offer better alternatives and the marketplace and a free people adopt them freely. We have never said that this is the way to go and therefore this is now illegal. I think carbon recapture is really the future. You can change the climate, climate change. You can add or reduce carbon in the atmosphere, hence changing the climate, climate change.
Starting point is 00:34:51 The carbon is a beautiful commodity. Here we go. And it's there in the atmosphere for us to condense. And turn to graphene. And turn to graphene. And reconvert it back into fuel. You know me so well. And you know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:35:01 And then you have, and I know he's old and I hate to pick on him, but then you have the President of the United States on Earth Day say, I'm working with Vladimir Putin and we're going to try to get all the carbon out of space. And everyone just claps, let alone the fact that he has a mask on in the Zoom call. And you say you're going to get all the carbon out of space. What the heck does that mean? John Kerry said we are going to make sure that there is no carbon by the year 2030. Well, plants really don't like that.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Humans really don't like that plant. We're carbon based. I think if we're smart, we'll start recapturing the carbon. And then we're actually going to be competing with the plants. And we're going to make sure that we don't take too much of it out of the atmosphere. And it'll be like climate change in the other direction. So we're going to have to find a balance with producing and reusing along with the plants.
Starting point is 00:35:48 We talk about carbon like it's evil. We talk about carbon like it's... It's so bizarre. These are the most... Such unscientific people. I think I know what it is. It's the silicon-based life forms, the aliens.
Starting point is 00:36:00 They don't like carbon-based life forms. So their propaganda campaign, carbon bad. And there's all this UFO stuff, non-styrant. Every time you turn around, there's another UFO sighting. I want to mention something as an aside. Real quick, I just got to do it. Joe Biden said to take a shotgun and fire it into the air.
Starting point is 00:36:14 And I don't know if you guys know, it's just totally derailed for a second. Boogie, who's a big YouTuber, has a warrant, a felony warrant for aggravated assault because some guy came to his house and he fired his gun into the air. You can't do that, and he lives near a school, so warrant for aggravated assault because some guy came to his house and he fired his gun into the air. You can't do that. And he lives near a school.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So that's aggravated assault. But the funny thing is a lot of people are pointing out like Joe Biden said to do it. Honestly, I wonder if that defense would work. The president said to fire a gun into the air. And so the guy was like, I got scared. So I fired. I did what the president said to do. It wasn't a shotgun.
Starting point is 00:36:42 But anyway, I digress. Joe Biden says insane things, and it quite possibly has a result in this country on people thinking and doing insane things. And a lot of these people now have positions of power. So they say things like, we need to get off fossil fuels now. We need to give every American free health care now. Well, there are real consequences to, again, alliterative bumper sticker campaigns. And now we need to be adults, and we need to say, what does it mean if we got off fossil fuels now? Millions are suffering through it and I feel for them.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'm going to tell you. I'm going to go totally cliche, stereotypical. This is communism. Check out the story from CNBC. All eyes are on this inflation number, which could have the biggest gain in nearly a decade. They say the consumer price index for April will be reported on Wednesday at 830 a.m. and is expected to be the hottest in nearly 10 years. Economists have said the jump in inflation looks larger because the base effects of last year when prices were weak to the pandemic shutdowns.
Starting point is 00:37:38 The specter of inflation has been spooking investors. So any surprise the upside could surprise the upside could stress surprise the upside could stress the market this inflation thing what is joe biden doing they're mass printing money mass spending bill their policies these are biden policies that have caused people to not want to work anymore it's democrats republicans together who have mass printed money i was in favor i said look when the when the 15 days slow the spread good faith effort everyone kind of agreed we got this this crisis and it turned it into a year and a half, you know, a year and three months.
Starting point is 00:38:07 And so the economy was just on in flames and they kept printing money like crazy. What's happening now is if let's say, let's say Ian slept on a couch for a week and did no work. And then I worked 40 hours that week and made $500. Ian has no money. I have $500. The government comes in and starts mass printing money, giving this, you know, very heavy, uh, unemployment.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Ian, as somebody who was laying around, hasn't produced any value for the system. I, as someone who worked 40 hours a week has, but now Ian has buying power out of nowhere, which dilutes my buying power. So they're effectively, it's effectively communism. And I'm not saying like literally it's communism but you have this very authoritarian government you have them pushing absurd policies that are like shutting down pipelines causing economic damage and then the mass printing of money and then this unemployment scheme and it's just basically stripping away the buying power from working americans and giving it to people who aren't producing and aren't working yeah that's that's that's what we were warned about.
Starting point is 00:39:06 We got like a ratio because if I had zero and you had 500 and then they gave everybody $500. So this is an argument for UBI not being functional. You'd have 1,000. I'd have 500. I now have 50% of your purchasing power before I had 0%. Right. That's a huge increase. So that means – think about it this way. If I made 40 widgets and you made zero, and then I get $500 and you get $500, so I have 1,000 total,
Starting point is 00:39:32 they just gave you the ability to take 20 of my widgets away, even though I made them and you made nothing. That's what's happening right now with all of this spending. You add all of this, you look at what's going on, and it seems like, yeah, not to be too conspiratorial or anything like that. No. But maybe these conservatives who are like, you know, hand in the air, rush, bang on the table saying they hate America. They're communists. They weren't completely wrong. Just do you think the authoritarians and the communists are going to come out and be like, we want to redistribute wealth from working class people to poor people so we can normalize?
Starting point is 00:40:03 We want to take away your ability to drive. We don't want you to have the independence to spend your own money. We want to tax the poor. They're not going to come out and say that. I mean Bloomberg did come out and say tax the poor. Yeah. But they're not going to come out and say that. They don't know what's good for them.
Starting point is 00:40:16 They're going to come out and go, oh, gee, we got to give everybody unemployment. It's so sad that the economy was shut down and then it's only the blue states that are still shutting down. Here's where it gets really crazy. This is what I think is going to be freaking people out. You see all these signs from these fast food restaurants where they're like, we quit. We won't work here anymore. You saw those. We talked about it the other day.
Starting point is 00:40:37 There's a dollar general where it says we refuse to work for these wages. In these red states, a bunch of the Republican governors announced they will not be taking any money from Biden. This $300 unemployment, they ain't going to take it because people don't want to work because you get $16 an hour unemployment. So imagine you live in Mississippi, where I think it's one of the states where they're doing this and your unemployment is getting cut off. You're like, okay, I better go get a job. So you go down to local McDonald's or whatever, and you apply for a job and they're like 13 bucks an hour and you're like better than nothing. And some dude shows up and he's got like a pink sweater tied over his shoulders and like a green pastel shirt.
Starting point is 00:41:11 He's got aviators on and his hair slicked back and he walks and he goes, I'll take the number 10. You know, give me two number 10s and two apple pies and two McFlurries. You know what? Screw it. He dishes out a bunch of cash. And this guy who's working in Mississippi, who's not getting the unemployment, sees this guy who comes from a blue state. That is. The guy in the blue state did no work. He's, in the analogy I gave, the guy who did nothing and now has been given the buying power of the guy who's doing work.
Starting point is 00:41:38 The people in red states are going to be like, nah. You come in here with that money that was printed that strips our buying power away and then buy from us while we work. That means these red states where people are working are going to be, in effect, producing free of charge for the blue states, especially when it comes to goods that are transported across state lines. So imagine you work in Mississippi and you're making, I don't know what they make. What do they make in Mississippi?
Starting point is 00:42:02 What kind of fruit? How about Georgia? They do peaches, right? Peaches. Yeah. Peaches in Georgia. So I don't know if Georgia is one of these states but let's say they're like, okay, no unemployment for you. You got to get a job. Somebody goes, I'm going to go grow peaches. Then the peaches get shipped up to New York where the people are not working and they're
Starting point is 00:42:16 getting free money from the federal government while you work on a farm to make those peaches for $13 an hour. They're getting $16 an hour doing nothing and getting the fruits of your labor, literally. So you mentioned, sorry, let me jump in here because I love the 10th Amendment. And this is something that you mentioned before
Starting point is 00:42:33 and I don't think any of our guests have ever really mentioned the 10th Amendment. The 10th Amendment is so important for allowing the states to do what the federal government is not specifically supposed to do. So I wonder, this looks like a good application of the 10th Amendment,
Starting point is 00:42:46 but to me, it also looks like it could be starting the roots of a civil war. It's a great point. And yes, I agree with you. I think the way out of our current problems of an all-powerful DC is federalism, meaning those powers that are not specifically in the Constitution enumerated for the federal government belong to the states. But that is kind of how you begin a bit of a of secession movements. And there's a lot of that in America. But there has to be some pushback. And I don't think it should come from the people. I think it should become coming from the governors. So like you said, the governors are not going to take cash.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Governors should, you know, you mentioned your example, which I thought was really good and really illustrative of what's going on. I think there's another factor, if I could add it on, is you want to get a job, you go to the McDonald's. But the vast majority of Americans work in small businesses. And with 150,000 illegals crossing the border every day, I don't need to pay $13 an hour. I can charge this guy six. And that's what's going to happen. So now I can't even get a job for $13 an hour because the market is flooded by cheap labor. So imagine the crisis you just said, but the labor is the other and our labor is not constant.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Our labor pool is growing tremendously with no consequences. So why are you going to work for $13 an hour? Why am I going to hire you for $13 when Joe Biden says it's totally cool to hire that guy for half? Well, we saw that when under Donald Trump, there was a raid on a bunch of chicken processing plants. And I think, what is it, like 600 to 800 illegal immigrants were arrested and deported. And then local news went down. They had hiring fairs, and they saw a bunch of people, a diverse group of people,
Starting point is 00:44:28 showing up, and they were like, why are these people coming for a job? And they asked one guy, and they were like, why would you want to work for these low wages? And he goes, it pays $14 an hour.
Starting point is 00:44:37 It's more than I was getting at the gas station. So these companies exploit porous borders. Absolutely. And it's always been that way. That's why Bernie Sanders in 2015 said, it is a Koch brothers proposal to have open borders. Now the left is all for it because they support industrialists, I guess. Yeah. That's the Democratic Party.
Starting point is 00:44:56 The Republicans are trash. Oh, absolutely. There's like a handful of good ones, I guess. Yeah. But they're not doing anything either. I feel like I remember when Dylan Rattigan did that epic rant. I don't know if you remember it. Yeah. Like 2013, where he said the Democrats, the Republicans are burning the system down while Democrats are kicking the can down the road for future generations. And I'm like, kind of feels like it's inverted at this point. Republicans are just sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Watch, you know, just kicking the can down the road, ignoring the problems while the Democrats are actively burning the system down. And I think it's because they want to extract, they feel the system is crumbling. So they want to extract as much as they can for themselves individually before it all comes tumbling down. There was a statistic I saw from the 2020 tax returns that blew my mind. And it was, I believe it was 62% of those who filed having made more than $500, were registered as democrats oh yeah yeah i mean so in in the course of my lifetime you're right it has flip-flopped they are the party of
Starting point is 00:45:52 the rich they are the party of the big banks they are the party of open borders and the republicans and now they're the party of censorship where it was and i was a kid right it was that shouldn't be on tv and where our morals and the answer was was, if you don't like it, turn the channel. Now, the right is the one saying, well, if you don't like it, turn the channel. And the left is saying that shouldn't be allowed on TV. You can't. Well, I think it was amazing. I think the culture war was was looming.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And I think Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders were insurgents trying to break into their parties. Bernie's much too weak. And so the Democrats grabbed him by the throat and said, you know, shut up or else. And he said, OK, I'm so sorry. And Donald Trump was like, no, no. And he like kicking tables over and he's like flipping tables and, you know, slamming glasses on the ground. Trump's kind of guy. So I said it before.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I think when he got elected, the establishment was like, OK, Donald, you won. Here's the plan. He went, no, I don't think so. And they're like, you're going to play ball. He's like, no, I'm not. They're like, OK, he's a Russian spy. Yeah, there you go. Oh, I don't think so. And they're like, you're going to play ball. He's like, no, I'm not. And they're like, okay, he's a Russian spy. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Oh, I agree with you. And Bernie, as you mentioned earlier, you were talking about how, going back quickly to the climate change issue, how there is such hypocrisy of the people who push these causes and the opulent life they live. For me, he's a wonderful example. I mean, does he have an opulent life?
Starting point is 00:47:01 Maybe not, but he does have three houses. Four, if you include his, you know, I don't have four houses. Now, if you really believed in the human ability of anthropomorphic climate change or global warming, A-E-G-W, and you believe your actions are causing this, well, your action of maintaining and traveling to four different homes has a carbon footprint. Is Bernie going to give it up? No, neither is anyone on that side. So for me, when people are like, Bernie's a communist, I'm like, he's not really a communist.
Starting point is 00:47:31 No, no, he is, he is. No, he's a communist party official. Right. Because at the height of the Soviet Union, the party leaders never wanted for caviar or vodka. The people were dying in the streets, but they had a very good life, and they supported and toast the system.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Bernie is a party leader. I really think that one of the greatest moments in the history of government, economics or just humanity in general was when Maduro was giving a speech to his starving people in Venezuela. And he pulls an empanada out of a drawer and he takes a big bite because not only was it like insult to injury that people are starving and you're eating in front of them but why did he have an empanada in his desk drawer in his office it's like that no no no no like hold on maybe i understand you having some cookies or crackers like in somewhere else but it's his work desk where he's giving his speech from and he like look at the camera he leans in and he pulls an empanada out of a drawer that's weird that's like someone having like an unwrapped snickers in their pocket yeah like what is he like walking around spaghetti in your pocket it's a weird thing to do but you gotta love the
Starting point is 00:48:33 corruption of the of these far leftists and with venezuela you mentioned maduro the richest person in venezuela is hugo chavez's uh ex-wife dead widow right is? Is the richest person in Venezuela. So when you were saying earlier about those who have purchasing power but have done nothing to earn it, that is taken to the extreme. What has she done to be worth tens of billions of dollars? She hasn't done, produced.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Is it quote-unquote fair that Jeff Bezos is worth $200 million? And am I jealous? He just bought a $500 million sailing yacht, by the way. Isn't it funny, though, that we are actually arguing from the left on this point? Yeah. That these communists and socialists have done nothing to produce the wealth and the access that they hold. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And we are angry the workers have had their values stripped away by a corrupt system. Exactly. Maybe the— You're right. That is a brilliant—that's a corrupt system. Exactly. Maybe the – You're right. That is a brilliant – that's a great point. Yeah. Now we sound like old school lefties. We sound like old union – what's his name?
Starting point is 00:49:36 Jimmy Hoffa. This is the problem I have with the unions, with the left, is that they've clearly been corrupted by the industrialists, by the industry, by the corrupt, by the crony capitalists, by the establishment politicians who just want to extract value from the working class. And the problem is the younger leftists aren't experienced enough to understand they're being exploited and they just play right into it. So it's funny when you see all of these people who voted for Joe Biden, they're young people who don't understand who they're voting for. And I'm like, you're voting for Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah, well, Trump's a fascist. I was like, do you have any idea who you're talking about with Joe Biden? He was overseeing Iraq for the Obama administration. And his brother gets his contracts to build, you know, in Iraq, becoming a millionaire. The Obama administration killed a bunch of people, started a bunch of wars. I don't care if you don't like Trump, stop pretending like biden is in any way good yeah and and no that's that that's a great point my idea just went right out of my head i was talking we talked about oh and and and purchasing power so you said the way we were talking about
Starting point is 00:50:37 you know we now sound like leftists talking about exploiting the workers as opposed to you know the industrialists or the the people that own all the wealth. The left has become the right. I lost my train of thought. Sorry. I'll get back to you. The left has become the right. That's why I've had a couple jokes where I've been like, you know, it's about time the workers stood up to the exploitation of the establishment politics.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And maybe the workers of the world should unite and push back. And yes. And that's, sorry, am I cutting you off? No, no, go ahead. Well, that was my point of the value of, you used the phrase a couple times of like paying into the system or buying into the system or contributing to the system. And that was a little bit of what I found fascinating with the early Occupy Wall Street movement.
Starting point is 00:51:22 And I remember one of the leaders of it, and I'm not making fun of the guy, but he was talking about his huge student loan debt because he had gotten advanced degrees in puppetry. And he couldn't pay off his student loans. And that's the problem I have with Elizabeth Warren's proposal of paying off student loans, is you value very highly your degree in medieval literature. You value it to the point of $300,000 in debt at Yale.
Starting point is 00:51:46 But that doesn't mean society or the markets, and that doesn't mean, therefore, that I should have to pay off your debt. I was down there at Occupy Wall Street. Yeah, that's what I meant. That's why I didn't know this story. I knew it all went together, and I was so mad I lost my train of thought earlier. Look at this. Underemployed puppeteer joins occupied wall street and they say a few years ago
Starting point is 00:52:07 he graduated from the nyc teaching fellows program working full-time drama teacher public teacher he got 35 000 in student loans and now he's like give me money i saw a meme where someone was like you know that these these bourgeois leftists are like oh you should pay off our student loan debt because just because you were able to pay your debt doesn't mean we should suffer and i was just like i think asking the working class to pay the debts of the wealthiest uh the highest salary earners in the country is like pretty far right and people are like oh like what do you call it i guess not far right's not the right answer but what do you call it when the ultra wealthy i shouldn't say ultra wealthy because
Starting point is 00:52:49 that's like the point one percent what do you call it when the when the rich people yeah the the highest salary earners in the country demand of the working class and the poor to pay their debts for them yeah slavery i guess communists do that right it's like roman old roman slavery yeah yeah you have your citizens and then everyone else the the perioikoi or whatever the greeks i mean it was just you had like citizens and then you had everyone else in society and they would basically work for the citizens yeah and the greek philosopher king system gave us really the foundation of western thought right but they did have a whole boatload of slaves to make that to keep that system afloat.
Starting point is 00:53:25 And so I don't... I've always had a little thing against academia. There's a great quote by Fulton Sheen, a famous Catholic priest up for sainthood, and he has this funny quote. He says that intelligentsia is when you educate someone beyond his intelligence. And I think that's a great quote, right?
Starting point is 00:53:41 So I've always had a problem a little bit with the intelligentsia. Again, go get your PhD in medieval poetry. That's fascinating. But it doesn't really contribute to society in anything other than the intellectual way. And if someone is not sustaining your livelihood as a medieval poetry professor, then it is communism. It is a form of slavery, really, or totalitarianism to then come to the working class and say, and therefore now you must pay the debt. And that's what they do.
Starting point is 00:54:09 And that is what is happening. So it's really funny that in this sense, the Trump supporters were far left. They wanted the union jobs back. They wanted the jobs brought back to the country. They wanted manufacturing jobs. They wanted to work. They were tired of being exploited by the ultra elites, the people who are rigging the system. And the leftists are the college graduates who want the poor people to pay their bills and want the establishment to go bomb other countries. Not all the leftists.
Starting point is 00:54:31 A lot of leftists don't like any of that stuff, but they're willing to support it. Yeah. So I think one of the greatest things that I'm sorry, it's a what's a collaborator is the right word. Conspirator. Conspirators. Conspirators. That's what they would say. So these leftists, these DSA types who voted foriden are co-conspirators in their own terminology and
Starting point is 00:54:49 based on the ideology of the trump supporters they're actually further left than they are in the sense that they support the workers rights they're not communists though but they're even so as as center right defending workers they're still somehow further left than the leftists who are like bourgeois-right authoritarians. Yeah, and they're salon, right? Like sipping expensive liqueurs and talking lofty thoughts. I remember the first job I got in a campaign, the campaign manager said, we don't need anyone here who wants to sit in a room and think lofty thoughts. Like the first job was we have to blow up balloons. It's not fun to blow up 5,000
Starting point is 00:55:28 balloons, but someone has to do it. You meet a lot of these campaign people who are like, I really love to think about trade policy. Okay, kid. You know what? We need you to set up chairs and blow up balloons. We have a lot of that. We have a lot of the people who want to think lofty thoughts and they want other people
Starting point is 00:55:43 to finance it. There's going to be some violent pushback if that movement grows yeah they're paying for college loan historically there's been like hamarabi for instance one of the greatest kings in babylonian king canceled all debt and it just infuriated the elite they wanted they hated it but he was such a good powerful smart guy that he didn't get assassinated normally the elite will try and assassinate you if you do that. The people loved him, and then the community thrived as a result. So you get these people like Kennedy, for instance, who wanted to break up the CIA's power. Unfortunately, he was sitting in the White House.
Starting point is 00:56:16 They knew where he was. It's easy to follow him, track him, kill him. Maybe you get these populist debt canceling. Kennedy? Kennedy, what about? Are you talking about Kennedy? John F. Kennedy. He was kind of a populist.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I don't know if he was going to cancel debt, but he wanted to kind of break up the power of the central banks. Yeah, he wanted to disrupt the – And they got shot by a crazy guy. Yeah, yeah. What a horrible coincidence that was. So I don't know. Unless you've got something to show me. I don't know what else to say.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I think we're in a debt situation that's spiraling, and we do need to cancel debt, some debt, maybe not all debt, and we need to figure it out sustainably. Interest rates, maybe? Cancel interest rate debt. Cancel the interest rates on the student loan debt so they still got to pay down what they received, but it's not going to start stacking up. And the Federal Reserve interest rates and stuff. I know people who took out like $35K in student loans and now owe $70,000. Yeah, cancel that. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Pay back what you were given, and we got to talk about interest and inflation. That's some of the problem. Because taking out $35K, sitting on it until inflation hits, and then paying back it down. That's distracting the system. But you can only have a debt problem if you have a spending problem. And I think one of the consequences, for example, of the first round of the stimulus, one of the biggest beneficiaries was Foot Locker. People took their $1,400 checks and went to Foot Locker and they bought new sneakers. The government says we're going to give people $1,400 so they can pay their mortgage,
Starting point is 00:57:31 so they can buy formula for the baby. Is it wrong? Am I going to force a law that says how you have to spend your money? I don't know. But how can you continue to put the country in debt and then know that people have this spending tendency? So that's why I am a star of the beast approach. Well, let's get real then. One of the biggest problems in this country is the spoiled attitude of every single American.
Starting point is 00:57:57 I think 90% of this country are spoiled or entitled to a degree, but some obviously more than others. So obviously conservatives are substantially less spoiled than Democrats, but still spoiled. I think it's a pretty decent gap, but there are a lot of people who are entitled to the comforts and luxuries of modern living. So I look at what's going on with these fast food getting shut down because people don't want to work there, and I'm like, don't eat that garbage food. It's not hard. I think people were tweeting at me when I tweeted this. Pictures of someone threw some onions and carrots and some beef into a pot,
Starting point is 00:58:29 cooked it, and they were like, it was cheaper, and it fed more people, and it was better for you. We're addicted to these luxuries of getting greasy garbage salt food for a couple bucks at a fast food restaurant. We don't want it. People got to figure out how to survive. They got to get back to the basics. We have a garden out front.
Starting point is 00:58:45 So I was reading something interesting. A lot of environmentalists talk about this, that the biggest crop in the country is grass. Everybody has a lawn growing grass. All we do is we spend money to get rid of it. We cut it and throw it in the compost or whatever. Why not have gardens? Why not have a front garden where you can grow some vegetables for your area and then subsidize yourself in a way that you're not having to buy as much from these stores. So you're growing your own food. Man,
Starting point is 00:59:09 growing your own food is amazing. Get some chickens maybe. They lay eggs and they're hilarious. They're filthy and dumb, but it's funny to watch them do their chicken stuff. And you get eggs. They eat bugs, they eat grass, and then you give them some feed and you get eggs every day, right? So I look at a lot of these problems and I'm like, well, you know what? Look, man, I would be more than happy to live in a van down by the river and go fishing. You know, I do this because I want to. And if at any point I couldn't do it,
Starting point is 00:59:33 I'd say, okay, fine. I got no problem living in a van, living in a van down by the river. But a lot of people are just too entitled. They won't give up their modern comforts. Now, a lot of these lazy, gluttonous city dwelling people are forced to sort of reconcile with this way of life they can't sustain anymore. I think if you look at the pandemic and the lockdowns, conservatives, I hear it from a lot of these people in rural areas, not as affected.
Starting point is 00:59:54 You're in the middle of nowhere. There's no outdoor mask mandates. You're living your life the way you normally do. Your neighbor is kind of far away. You still go talk to them. In the cities, it's panic. You're in a cubicle. You can't go outside. It's solitary confinement. People are fleeing the cities. They don't want to live this way anymore. They go talk to them in the cities it's panic yeah you're in a you're in a cubicle you can't go outside it's solitary confinement people are fleeing the
Starting point is 01:00:07 cities they want to live this way anymore they can't get supplies in the cities gas is skyrocketing gas shortages people in the country like what did you just say earlier in the show ian you're isolated from what was going on in the cities no i don't remember saying that what do you mean you were mentioning something about these people who have been like uh you know locked up in their apartments they can't get out and you And maybe it was before the show. And you're like isolated from that because we're out in the middle of nowhere. Oh, yeah. I haven't experienced it in a while.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I was in the city for like 15 years, you know, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles. And I felt like I was doomed. It was just the brake dust is a big part of it because the particulates of the brake dust on the cars are so fine. They get in the alveoli of your lungs right into the blood barrier, like just way worse than the carbon monoxide. And that can cause hypertension and stress. But you're compacted, and there's nowhere to run.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Like if you're in Manhattan, you can't really get out. If they shut down the bridges, you can try and swim the East River. But if they don't want you to, they'll be looking for people. Well, so my point is, I don't know about turning Manhattan into a prison, but my point is i don't know about you know turning manhattan into a prison but my point is great movie by the way for people who for the for many rural people which is the predominant is predominantly conservative it's not been as bad no people in the cities but but you know what am i going to shed a tear over these gluttonous entitled silly city-dwelling folks who demand... I'm sorry, man. When I see people, illegal immigrants picking figs in Southern California, I went down and I interviewed people and I met
Starting point is 01:01:32 the children of illegal immigrants and they were like my family. They pick figs or dates or something and they get paid 14 bucks an hour. And I'm like, isn't it amazing that those people are doing work and these New York and LA liberals who write articles about Brad Pitt's junk are making $50,000 a year and getting to eat the fruits of your labor while they do nothing. That's why the Democratic Party likes this. They like the cheap labor coming in to do the real work where they can sit and pretend they're doing work. As if writing an article about celebrity gossip or garbage is producing something of value for society other than wasting their time. And the next echelon is the banking people that work in finance that don't do anything but take meetings and have lunch during the day.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And they their their income is there. They just keep making money on their money. They keep getting like interest. And so Max is talking about this, the private hedge fund billionaires, the private equity. But I just want to say I mentioned this before, that I have infinitely more respect for the illegal immigrants who will cross vast swaths of desert, ride on top of trains for thousands of miles because they love America so much than I do for these people in these cities who are like, America's racist.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I hate this country. I don't know if they love America so much or they need opportunity so much. I mean, I know what you mean, but I don't think they have a great love for the country. I'm not saying it gives you the chance to not have to love the country. They're like, you don't have to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. You don't have to say you can stomp on the flag and burn it on the ground. This is a place for you to be your best in general, though. But we're in general.
Starting point is 01:02:59 There are people who are like America. I have to be there. They're not talking about the founding fathers, not talking about our Constitution. They're saying this country is just good. I respect those willing to go on this dangerous journey to come to find the American dream and the people in these cities who are complaining. America is awful. And then you add on top of that the insult to injury of a bunch of these people I knew in New York
Starting point is 01:03:18 working for these companies writing these articles saying Donald Trump, orange man bad, getting paid $50,000, $60,000, $70,000 a year, and those same illegal immigrants making $5 an hour, and they're like, America's great. It's funny that as you're doing this, you keep making this gesture. Like the type in the garbage article. Yes, no, exactly, because I think it's spot on type. Because I think compounded to that, and the article I wrote last year about leaving D.C., and I've been a city kid my whole life, but now I'm a country boy and I'm learning,
Starting point is 01:03:42 but I think compounded to that also is that we are a 10,000, 50,000, 70,000 year old species. And it's really the first time that people have made a living off of something that requires no manual labor, but it doesn't change our DNA. It doesn't change our nature. And I feel like, especially for guys, if I don't mean to sound sexist, but I feel like the city guys I know who are most well adjusted have some sort of physical outlet. But if you just work all day on a computer and you go home and you play video games and you watch TV and that's what you do after you do, well, your only outlet of productivity or creativity or masculinity is like a nasty Yelp review because your barista got your order wrong, right? You need an outlet. You talked about the garden.
Starting point is 01:04:28 You talked about chickens. People, men and women, you need something to do to create, to hold in your hand, whether it's art, whether it's you need to do something. And we have a whole society that does not produce anything. I think it's funny how many people who watch the show sort of poke fun at us out here as new country folk sort of. They're like, oh, it's so cute to hear you talk about how you have no idea what you're doing with those chickens. But it's like smiling and laughing like, oh, you'll figure it out. People in the cities ain't never going to figure it out because they're living in their concrete cubicles that smell like sour milk, complaining and demanding resources from outside the cities. What I really love about the arguments from a lot of these leftists when they say, well, the cities are the ones that produce all of the GDP and everything.
Starting point is 01:05:09 It's like, okay, let me explain something to you. Farms aren't in cities. They're outside the cities. The food you eat, it's being imported. It's being driven by truck drivers, not in those cities. How about your energy? Your energy is produced, not in your cities. That pipeline originates in the country. And you look at some of the jobs in these cities. I got to tell you, man, I'm hung up on this because I remember the first time I went to one of these newsrooms was when I worked for Vice.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And the job I had before Vice was nonprofit office, which was not paid very well, better than I'd been paid working for the airlines, and a lot of hard work. It was very stressful. People couldn't handle the job because it was sales basically. And so then I remember, you know, I had worked for 10 bucks an hour at O'Hare airport, lifting heavy bags, like 50,000 pounds of luggage every day, just eight hours. And then I walk into this vice newsroom and I see half the chairs are empty and I'm like, Oh, where's everybody? And they're like, Oh, they're working from home. I'm like, working from home. How much do they get paid? Like $40,000 a year. I'm like 40,000. What do they write? Well, sometimes they'll write like an40,000 a year. I'm like, $40,000?
Starting point is 01:06:05 What do they write? Well, sometimes they'll write like an article or two per day. I'm like, about what? Brad Pitt's junk. I'm like, wow. So you guys are like Elysium. I think I worked there
Starting point is 01:06:15 before the movie came out, I don't remember. But it's like where that space station where all the rich people live and they have all this technology. You come into the office when you feel like it. You write stupid articles about trash and you get paid $ grand a year not a lot of money i understand but for
Starting point is 01:06:29 someone who's in their early 20s relative to somebody who's got to like i don't know be a janitor you look at some of these jobs in new york where guys like changing light bulbs you get like a 45 year old old you know custodian he's like doing work and he's 20 year olds getting paid twice as much as he is to write nonsense garbage. Now, at least that person. So I'm going to keep this going. That person, you could say, theoretically, is producing something. I think I feel more disgust for the consumer side because that person is only producing because someone is clicking on that article.
Starting point is 01:07:00 And who are these hundreds of thousands of people who have nothing? Yeah, they have nothing better to do than to be like, oh, Brad Pitt's junk. Seven times your cheeseburger reminded you of... Brad Pitt's junk. Exactly. So there are clearly enough people who are clicking on that, and that is where our society has become.
Starting point is 01:07:17 So I'm producing content because there are enough people who have the largesse. Why do they have the largesse? Because we have 150,000 illegals every month crossing the border who are doing all of the labor that allows them the luxury to click on Brad Pitt's junk articles. It's funny because I hear the argument from conservatives. When they raided that chicken processing plant, the guy was like, I want to work. I want to make money. And the left says, nobody wants those jobs.
Starting point is 01:07:46 No, it's just your entitled, disgusting, lazy attitude. You don't want that job. A ton of Americans want that job. A ton of Americans would kill for that job. Well, now, you know, I guess fortunately for most people, Joe Biden says, come on, man, give everybody money for no reason. So now people are like, what's the point of working? Yeah. Those would be the ones if the zombie apocalypse came who, I mean, they would die within the
Starting point is 01:08:10 first couple hours, right? Like you said how we would die. They would be the zombies. Yeah, they probably would. They would be the zombies. They already are the zombies. But like, just think of if we did lose fossil fuels like that, and you said within days, millions of people would be dead.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I think millions of 15 and millions of people would be dead. I think millions of 15 and 16 year olds would be dead because their parents would kill them because they can't Snapchat. They can't TikTok. They can't. And they'd break down. Their heads would explode. Look, these kids. They'd be insufferable.
Starting point is 01:08:36 So you just have to put them down. A bunch of these Gen Z kids grew up attached to the internet. If the grid went down, they would have serious episodes. I mean, during the lockdown, this is crazy., they would have serious episodes. I mean, during the lockdown, this is crazy. A bunch of teenagers committed suicide. I know. Tragic. Some people like I know lost children. And I'm not going to say any names or anything. But yeah, these stories, because they got disconnected from their friends. It's crazy what would happen if we actually had some kind of real crisis. I tell you, I don't think any I think most conservatives are particularly
Starting point is 01:09:05 confident in their abilities for good reason. And I think most Democrats are confident in their abilities out of ignorance. I these people who grew up in cities, man, they think they'll be OK. They scoff and they laugh. So we did the promo for the food things for the food buckets, safe and ready meals dot com. And we I hear it from these leftists laughing, mocking me, saying he's so dumb selling these emergency food bins to stupid people. And I'm like, what do you think is going to happen when, I don't know, like a heavy rainfall hits? And I remember it was, I think it was Houston or Dallas where they had that severe flooding and people were trapped in their homes. And I'm like, do you think emergency food is only for when the zombies come? Or is it because sometimes it rains?
Starting point is 01:09:45 And they're so arrogant. They always believe that food is infinite, that they can walk into the store and food's just there. There's a really great comedic bit, this video where a guy, he like wakes up on his couch and there's garbage everywhere. And his girlfriend walks in and she's like, what are you doing? Clean up the garbage. And he goes, no, no, no, no. goes no no wait wait i gotta show you something it's amazing
Starting point is 01:10:06 you just put the garbage right here on the table you go to sleep and when you wake up it's gone this works and she's like what and he's like watch and he goes to sleep and then he wakes up and it's gone and she's gone yeah and the joke was she's doing the work you just don't know it so these people think they can walk downstairs and there's just food in the bodega. And I love it when I was talking, I was arguing with UBI people and they were like, if we have UBI, then people can buy food. And I was like, if you shut
Starting point is 01:10:34 down the businesses and the farms can't produce milk and the milk can't get transported to the store, where does the milk come from? And I kid you not, someone tweeted, food comes from the store. What are you talking about? Yeah, there you go. I was like, what? Have you ever seen the trucks pull in and unload this have you tried i was my mind was blown where do the toilet paper is the toilet papers it's still they were saying aisle four it's still there it's just they have to restock it because in the back do you think
Starting point is 01:10:58 that like a genie walks in the back and goes like and like toilet papers it just appears and they walk it out and put it on the aisles. Apparently, a lot of people don't realize that your avocados, they come from Mexico. They got to ship that from Mexico to New York so you can have your hipster avocado toast. It's terrible for the environment by their standards, especially, and they don't care. You know, I'm most excited about is vertical farms. I kind of want to get back to talking about how ridiculous people are too. But vertical farms, are you guys familiar with Aero Farms in New Jersey?
Starting point is 01:11:31 It's in Newark, biggest indoor vertical farm in the world, at least it was a few years ago. So they grow food without dirt. The roots will grow on a mesh, and they'll spray nutrients on the mesh. You have these just floors and floors and floors of indoor plants. I think that's the future of urban living, I think. Hydroponics? Yes. Aquaponics? Well, let's talk about this.
Starting point is 01:11:51 California declares drought emergency across vast swath of state. We talked a lot about political crises. But what happens? So let me start on this. I don't want to blame Joe Biden for everything. I think he's a bad leader. I think his policies have caused very serious problems with the economy and with the border, of course. I don't think we can blame him for everything having to do with Israel and Gaza.
Starting point is 01:12:12 That would be insane. That conflict has been going on for a long time. But what we're looking at now with this story from California is a massive drought. I look at some of these photos, and I went and covered the drought several years ago when it was in its in its in its peak it was it was a disaster and it looks worse now i mean maybe i'm wrong maybe maybe maybe it's just i'm misremembering but it seems like it's way worse what are we going to do now when we have this pathetic president who has no ability to lead how is he supposed to deal with his own problems of his creation and with natural disasters because california's they're already in trouble yeah now you add this
Starting point is 01:12:47 drought they're going to start going to other states and making demands and they're in demand relief they're men we pay for it that drought that you said you covered and i'm trying what was that about probably about a decade ago it was well no no it was uh 2016 20 the 2015 2016 what steps did the state of california or did did America take after that drought to say, how do we make sure this doesn't happen again? Like I said earlier on, one of the things I challenge, my challenge in this industry is that it's not always sexy. It's not titillating. It's not fun.
Starting point is 01:13:15 That's another example. And this is the role of government. The role of government is not to police your pronouns. It is not to talk about your boys and girls in sports. These are, for good or for ill, these are the jobs we've put at the feet of our government. What has California or the country done to secure our electric grid, to secure our energy supply, or in the case of California, to secure its water supply? Because you know you are drought prone. You know what your population
Starting point is 01:13:41 is. You know that the rain is cyclical. What have you done? I want to make sure I highlight the other story in this because this is about the greater natural disasters. And we have this one from Express.co.uk. Solar storm traveling at 1.3 million kilometers per hour to hit Earth tomorrow. Oh, great. They say it could spark satellite-related issues. Sometimes when we get these storms, it causes issues with cell phone coverage and things
Starting point is 01:14:03 like that. I don't think this is the big one where all of our electronics get fried or anything. But just another example of outside of the political crisis and the government, to your question, not doing anything about it. And I'm not
Starting point is 01:14:18 comfortable right now with a Biden presidency, a Biden administration as we're staring down the barrel of natural disasters, Middle Biden administration, as we're staring down the barrel of natural disasters, Middle Eastern conflict, economic crisis, migrant crisis. I'm actually, what's the opposite of comfortable? Uncomfortable is a strong word. Disconcerted.
Starting point is 01:14:34 That's a long word, though. No, not enough. Agitated. I'm anxious and genuinely concerned. But, you know, I would say I'm not particularly excitable. So when it happens, I kind of laugh, and then I go and buy a bunch of bullets. That was my reaction today. I did my segments.
Starting point is 01:14:52 So I do my hour and 20 minutes or so in the morning, the three segments, 10, 1, and 4 p.m. And afterwards, I was like, da-da-da-da-do, ammo.com. Let's see. Nine millimeter. Oh, hollow point. Let's see. 45 ACP. And you got it. No problem. let's see 45 acpo and you got it no problem there's a lot of shortages yeah yeah it's been a little bit better it was really bad last year
Starting point is 01:15:11 but i was like i'm going to buy a bunch of bullets and then i got like some beans and rice and i'm like you know what man that's that's that's that's the manifestation of my anxiety watching a biden presidency and natural disasters i'm like time to buy some ammo. You're not wrong either. Historically, if you've ever heard, I want to tell you about the Sea Peoples. Have you guys ever heard of the Sea Peoples? 1200 BC. The Sea Peoples? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Apparently this unknown culture of humans, 1200 BC, came from Asia and just flooded the Mediterranean and wiped out and murdered and destroyed all civilization essentially as we know it. They don't know why. No one really knows anything about them or it they don't know why no one really knows anything about them or where they came from or why they came but what they think happened was a series of events it's never the big one it's very rarely it's a volcano along with uh three years of famine and then there's a flood or there's a war involved with a famine and then there's a solar flare or there's a fire and it's all these things happening at once.
Starting point is 01:16:06 That's what causes social collapse. It's not it's not the oil alone. It's not the solar flare alone. It's not the war alone, but it's when they all come. And they're all happening right now. Isn't that any moment they can all happen right now? We have to be on guard for that. And that's and that's like why i think biden is particularly bad for us
Starting point is 01:16:26 i i understand it's like so obvious tim pool criticizing joe biden i get it um i think trump had his problems but joe biden is like sitting in his wheelchair with his little warm blanket in the sun going like while like everything's on fire if yosemite erupts and then there's uh if yosemite erupts we got nothing to worry about nothing to worry about. And there's a war and a flood. Well, we all have masks. So if Yosemite erupts, we have masks to keep the sun at the very least. Other than the actual...
Starting point is 01:16:53 I don't know how long it would block out the sun. Years. That would destroy a crop. So you're saying the secret bunker should be hermetically sealable so that we can go underground and prolong our suffering? Indoor farms is a big part of it. It's going to be a race to get to Mount Weather if Yellowstone
Starting point is 01:17:09 and Yosemite goes up. Mount Weather, that's the station in Virginia. It's actually right outside D.C., but that's what the government built in the case of nuclear war. Mount Weather, you can see it. It's right there on a hill. It's a secret government. It's not secret because everyone knows what it is.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Oh, but it's not a mountain. What's happening? Well, it's on a mountain, and it's called Mount Weather. And it's one of those, what actually happens at Mount Weather? No one knows. Isn't that where the enclave is? But it is a government bunker. Isn't that where the enclave is in Fall 3?
Starting point is 01:17:37 I don't know. That's awesome. Yeah, if you go far west of the mountains, and there's like a – yeah, that's what it is. The thing that concerns me is I don't think we should even talk about if. It's when Yosemite erupts because it will again in the future well it's it's overdue by only like 80 000 years so there's nothing to worry about when there's a conflux of events that causes mass catastrophe on the surface of earth hopefully we'll be on mars we'll be on the moon we'll have space stations but yeah what are we where's our localized infrastructure i don't want
Starting point is 01:18:03 to rely on a pipeline i don't want to rely on an energy source far away. I mean, where's my will food, my water, my waste? Just real quick. Yes. Mount Weather is what they use to model Raven Rock, which in Fallout 3, for those that are familiar with the game, is where the Enclave, which is the remnants of the U.S. government, are based. Yes. After the nuclear apocalypse. There you go.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Yeah. That's always a real place. But they're not going to let you in. Well, no. We're going to try to let you in. Well, no. We're going to try to get in. They'll shoot you. But to your point, though, absolutely. If societal collapse happens, it is every man for himself.
Starting point is 01:18:37 And that is why teaching self-resiliency and independence is a virtue. And I feel like what we are inculcating as a culture, and I feel like what this president is doing, is inculcating dependency. Last night we were talking about Africa a lot, and I think Nigeria, how they're on crypto. And a lot of what's happened in these African countries is they've leapfrogged the last 100 years
Starting point is 01:18:59 of electrical infrastructure because they didn't have a central grid. So they just immediately went to solar panel in every house. And now they all have cell phones. Gravity lights. Yeah, yeah. They bypass the telephone centralization structure. So they have cell phones, solar panels.
Starting point is 01:19:14 They're using crypto. So there is potential for new societies to have to start with sustainable stuff, as we can see. Gravity lights. Gravity lights are really cool. You ever see those? No. sustainable stuff as we can see in the gravity lights gravity lights are really cool you ever see those no it's a series of gears and you have a rock on a on a string and you lift the rock up and let it go and as the rock is falling it's spinning the gears which generate electricity and it falls like 12 hours yeah it takes 12 hours to go all the way down there's and it lights it
Starting point is 01:19:40 turns the light on so it's like an old clock like an old right right clock that has a pendulum and has yeah yeah so it's just using gear a gear you know ratio so that as it's spinning it goes really slow it spins really fast and then and gravity like the thing about something in orbit is it's falling technically when you're when you're orbiting the earth you're in a state of falling so if we could utilize that force to create electricity i think that would be sustainable you couldn't because it is falling but it's moving forward fast enough to where it orbits you'd have you'd have to reduce speed at some point you can't just it that would be perpetual motion machine it wouldn't work you can't just get energy out of the system it wouldn't be perpetual it would slow down over time but it might be slow down like as the as the rock falls it takes 12 hours to fall. Maybe it could take 600,000 years for it to fall back to Earth.
Starting point is 01:20:27 I see, just like orbital decay, and then capturing that somehow. I don't know. Maybe. Seems kind of crazy. But maybe we'll get by a solar storm, and then it'll just get erased. I think it wiped out. Going back to the California droughts, I mean, there are whole countries, I'm thinking of Israel, that have mastered desalinization.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Yeah, but you know what the problem with that is? Why can't we in California? They do have one in Carlsbad. I went there. It's beautiful. It's crazy. It's a whole bunch of, it's a series of tubes, as most things are, I suppose. The internet, the oil pipelines.
Starting point is 01:20:57 But they have a whole bunch of these tubes where the water runs through all of them. The problem is there is going to be refuse brine. Yeah. And we watched it. We filmed it as it poured out of these wastewater pipes. The brine sinks to the bottom and goes under the ocean water, killing everything on the ocean floor. And that causes a wave of death going all the way up because the food chain dies. The critters that eat stuff on the floor die because there's no food anymore. The critters that eat those critters die. The critters eat those critters that die. And then the people who go fishing can't get fish anymore. So there's a lot of things to solve with desalination. One of the issues, I suppose, is humans consuming more and more of the ocean water,
Starting point is 01:21:37 changing salinity, destroying coastal areas, destroying fisheries. I don't think there's a solution for infinite growth or at least exponential growth considering how many people there are i think there's a certain point where we just get too many people and then we strain our ecosystem it happens to deer it happens to you know basically every creature on the planet hogs for instance people go around helicopters shooting hogs just too many of them humans are not going to be immune from the same environmental forces that everything else on the planet is. And so we've got to pay attention to that.
Starting point is 01:22:09 I'm not going to pretend to know the solutions, but I can tell you a lot of really crazy people are willing to do a lot of really crazy things once they get power to ensure that they get to live comfortably forever. And you are the one who is the hog being culled. They're the ones who have the private jets and the that's right the multiple this is what i think about the climate change thing i think a lot of these people are like you know there's like a guy and he's like cities wearing his like velvet bathrobe or whatever in the morning and he's sipping his his morning coffee with a cigar and then he sees the newspaper
Starting point is 01:22:38 and it says due to climate change people will lose access to these luxuries and he goes heavens i have to give up my private jet no make everyone else give it up so he throws money and says everyone give up all your luxuries give up all your luxuries and he goes once they all give up their luxuries and they're flushing their toilets and now you got to pee on the top of the toilet to flush the rest of it because we got to save water i'll get to keep my yacht i'll get to keep my private private plane. It's better this way. By the way, that's a wonderful accent of a rich person. Yeah, it was good. That's flawless. Rich people naturally develop those accents.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Oh, yes. Of course they do. As soon as you break your first million, you can watch it happen. You should go to a club and there'll be a guy and he's like, well, I'm looking at my portfolio here and, oh, it's about to cross one million dollars. It's happened. Oh, Rufus, your voice Well, I'm looking at my portfolio here, and oh, it's about to cross $1 million. Oh, my.
Starting point is 01:23:27 It's happened. Jolly good. Oh, Rufus, your voice broke. I see you've made a million dollars. There's a woman, and she's like, oh, you made a million dollars? And he's like, you can tell, can't you? When the rich psycho says, I need to rule all these sycophants, these people, because they're not smart enough. And then they make these decisions.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Like, if they give up their – what's that? Bloomberg? Yeah, yeah. So when that happens, I wonder, like, then you were talking about all these people that just can't stop eating crap, salty, fast food. They can't, like, bring themselves to change, to become self-identified, to cook their own food, to take control of their life. Are they really like a mass of ignoramuses that need to be controlled and called, not called, but like taken care of by a small group of highly intelligent humans? Or is that the story we're told? That's a really good point.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I think maybe you're onto something, Ian. There could be a group of people that maybe just have better ideas. It could be a reference to like enlightenment or like a light, like an illumination. a group of people that maybe just have better ideas. It could be a reference to enlightenment or a light, like an illumination. They could call themselves something like that, like Illuminati.
Starting point is 01:24:32 The Illuminati. Yeah, the ones who know all things. Yes, and they can tell other people how to live because as we've seen throughout history, centralization of power always is a good thing. if you hoard all your information on an island then there's no chance the island will get flooded and destroyed
Starting point is 01:24:48 and that the information will be lost or in a great library perhaps uh the problem with these people is that while i think it's true there are a lot of really really dumb people and i think there are very few smarter people centralization uh doesn't work person, a small group of people, cannot adequately plan for how a system this large will work. They've tried it over and over again. It was called communism. It clearly doesn't work. It didn't work.
Starting point is 01:25:15 And I know all these commie leftists will be like, that was because the U.S. was interfering in the government. It wasn't real communism, yeah. Yeah, when they were like, starve the Ukrainians to give the Russians food because we need it more. I'm like, that's central planning. Treating the individual like trash. The problem is not that they're making people do something or making them not do something.
Starting point is 01:25:32 It's that they're restraining their ability to be adaptable. Because you need to allow people to be adaptable. Restraining their ability to be free. Yeah, I mean, adaptability is freedom. And that's taken away in a centralized system. It's interesting. Max the other day was talking about how these altcoins are a casino. Somebody says, I put in money on this cryptocurrency, I lost money, and now I need to make it back up.
Starting point is 01:25:58 So they put it in a different currency and they keep losing money. I feel like a lot of the centralization we see with these wealthy individuals is they made a bet. Hey, we should do this policy and control this good. It'll make everything better. Then when it gets worse, they go, quick, quick, do another policy. And so they keep stacking duct tape onto a thing. The problem is caused by them. Yeah. Yeah. And you talked about how it's a series of events that lead to the ultimate collapse of society. And I think you're absolutely right. But if you look at one country in particular, and more should be written about this. Movies, you talked about doing original creative.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Oh, we're doing it. Movies should be written about this. And it is, in our lifetime, the story of Venezuela. I mean, in the turn of the century, this century, the year 2000, it was the wealthiest, most prosperous country in South America. It had a number of American and European engineers and doctors who lived there. Hugo Chavez did not run as saying, I'm going to destroy your country. He ran as I'm going to bring a greater sense of equality and equity or whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:59 And here we are 21 years later and 70, the latest statistic I saw saw 78 percent of the population is in extreme poverty i mean they have the world's largest proven oil and gas reserve oil reserves and they have no they have no oil a lot of murder though they got a lot of murder exactly i mean i mean in the in every single the those who who those illuminati those who were smart those who were fled the country and what is left and who takes care of those people? And that is, I fear, the direction we are slowly headed in. It's a series of collapses. In addition to the series of collapses, what happens, what tends to happen is it will affect one large group of people.
Starting point is 01:27:36 And then those people will migrate because they're screwed. And then the migration will cause another catastrophe where they land and they'll disrupt that populace. The sea people were the ones that were catastrophically affected by the series of events, so it seems. But the people that were murdered in the Mediterranean just suffered the fallout. So what you're basically saying is that in these blue areas destroyed by Democrats, they're all going to flood into red areas. We're seeing it happen. And they're bringing their weird race theories.
Starting point is 01:28:02 It's like a drop of it. It's landing in schools in West Virginia, freaking out parents. Colorado. And that's why federalism is your best fight back because you have so much more power at this power should be as concentrated at the localist level possible
Starting point is 01:28:18 and people get rid of the electoral college. You know, I mean, without getting into the history of our founding fathers, the person who is not elected by electoral college is your governor, because that's where more power should be than the president. They never wanted the president. They never wanted D.C. to be powerful. So did the founders love democracy?
Starting point is 01:28:34 They love direct democracy because they wanted it at the most local. Your mayor is elected by direct democracy. But boy, wouldn't it be great if your mayor had more power than your governor and your government more power than the president? But instead, there used to be an expression. My mom, I hope you're listening, Mom. She used to say it all the time, and maybe she's the last one. Don't make a federal case out of it.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Oh, don't make a federal case out of it. We don't say that anymore. Everything is now a federal case. My trans daughter can't play volleyball. Go to the Supreme Court. Holy crap. There's no other recourse. Everything gets elevated to Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Well, it's like we're asking mom and elevated to yeah yeah to washington dc well it that's that that's it's like we're asking you know mom and dad to solve our problems for us yeah that's that's it's an interesting thing you know the problem is if people live in these awful blue states then they move to red states and then start floating voting blue again and then they just you know keep yeah and then maybe we'll move back to california one day and reclaim it as our own right i mean there are states that were blue that have turned red and there are states that are red that are turning blue. And I'm not going to stop migration patterns.
Starting point is 01:29:31 But, you know, California had the largest exodus in the last 10 years. Who knows? Maybe they'll drive it so far into the ground. People will start moving back to California and reclaim it. Yeah. Well, how about we take some super chats? So if you haven't already smash that like button and leave your comments because it really does help and don't forget to become a member at
Starting point is 01:29:48 timcast.com to get access to our massive library of members only content you can see it in the members area we got a ton of really awesome stuff from a lot of really great people we'll have a bonus i went up tonight let's read some super chats but again don't forget to share this show and smash that like button i said that already all. All right. Let's see what we got here. Mike Sullivan says, Mr. Biden recently met Jimmy Carter. Carter told him about the amazing gas lines he had. Joe said, hold my Geritol and watch this. And now we have gas lines again.
Starting point is 01:30:17 That's fantastic. Wolf Star says, Tim will never stop selling fear to his audience. He is worse than the MSM. You're entitled to your opinion. I disagree. The mainstream media is outright lying to you about what's going on. And it's really funny when I have people who say like, oh, Tim, you said all of these things were going to happen. I'm like some approximation of those things are literally happening. Last year when I was like, man, I'm really concerned about shortages, you know, so check out this emergency food stuff. Don't go crazy. Just, you know, have some emergency food, water and a first aid kit. And then we got all this news about supply shortages at all these major chain stores. And I'm like, OK, the apocalypse
Starting point is 01:30:52 isn't here, but like it's important to pay attention to the stuff. If you don't like it, hey, man, you're entitled to your opinion. You don't got to watch a show. Nobody's making you do it. All right, let's see. John Lee says, Tim, today when typing your channel, your newly uploaded videos didn't show up. I had to go into your channel to find the video. Did something happen? More importantly, where's my chicken stream? I don't know. I guess YouTube nuked the video.
Starting point is 01:31:15 It happens sometimes. And I'll have to look into it, I guess. The chicken stream is we're working on it, I guess. All good things are worth the wait, right? That's right. Tango Hotel says, Tim, I heard your call to create new culture. I'm a disabled vet,
Starting point is 01:31:31 and I create every day at Twitch. Tango Hotel, where I stream XCOM 2, Long War, and a variety of other games. Thank you for all of, for what you do. Appreciate it. XCOM Long War is so legit. So good. Unreasonably Angry says,
Starting point is 01:31:43 Hey, Daniel, as a trucker, I would like to hear your expert opinion on what the next step is for trucking electric hydrogen cell or stick with diesel um you probably know this a lot better than i do but the reason why i have hesitancy to say that we're going to go all electric with trucking uh is because of the size and the of the battery the weight and the amount of of space it takes up in the truck. So people say we're going to have a fleet of electric trucks one day.
Starting point is 01:32:09 When I look at what truckers carry in terms of especially fossil fuels, but other things that are extremely heavy payloads, not your Amazon truck, not your UPS truck that is not but really, really heavy payloads, there is not yet a battery strong enough to run that truck. That may happen one day. I'm not opposed to it. Again, and let technology take its place. But right now, I think the trucking industry is, the way our economy runs, I think our
Starting point is 01:32:33 trucking industry is very safe. Even though I was advocating for the pipeline for fuel transportation, truckers don't have to worry about their future and the immediate future. They don't. Damon Cord with probably the best comment so far. There is no war in Ba Sing Se. Also, don't forget hurricane season is right now. Yeah, keep in mind.
Starting point is 01:32:51 For those aren't familiar with that reference, there is no war in Ba Sing Se. It comes from the Avatar show where they go to this great big city called Ba Sing Se, which is literally being attacked, or there's a war with the Fire Nation, but the government doesn't allow people to talk about it. They're just like, shut up. Nothing's happening. And that was a great story arc. And now a meme.
Starting point is 01:33:13 American Capitalist says hyperinflation has hit the used vehicle market. There was a YouTube short of a $65,000 Corvette with 15 miles being flipped for 100K. Dealerships are empty. My three-year-old truck's trade-in value is higher than it was brand new. Whoa. Wow. dealerships are empty my three-year-old truck's trade-in value is higher than it was brand new whoa wow wow turk longwell says tim i think max and stacy may have convinced me to go straight bitcoin especially with all the disaster talk lately love the show smash that like button you know what man i've known about bitcoin for a decade and every step of the way i was like if only i had bought some if only i had bought some, if only I had bought some, if only I had bought some. And at a certain point, I was like, man, I'm stupid. Because if only I had bought some, I'm like, okay, I'm buying some. I have a little bit from a long
Starting point is 01:33:53 time ago. And it's kind of crazy to see something that was not worth that much now be worth so much. And I'm just like, wow. But I never, man, I wish back in 2012, when it was like five bucks or whatever, it hit five bucks and I was like, it's way too expensive to buy now because people don't get it. And I didn't get it and I knew about it. If only back then. So I think Bitcoin's going to hit a million bucks.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Bitcoin has one and then eight zeros after it. That comes out to with, you know, a decimal point, two zeros, a million dollars. So I think it'll reach around that point probably sooner than people realize. So I'm buying Bitcoin. And I was thinking about it too. I'm probably just going to start treating Bitcoin as if it is worth a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:34:34 So what that means is like, if someone's like, you know, hey, I'll give you, you know, X, you know, 0.000, whatever the Bitcoin for X amount of dollars. It's like, wow, someone handing me, you know, a hundred dollars for five bucks. You know what I mean? I was going to buy a laptop. whatever, of a Bitcoin for X amount of dollars, it's like, wow, someone handing me $100 for five bucks. You know what I mean? I was going to buy a laptop. I mentioned this last night. And instead, I just bought Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:34:53 And I was like, you know, because I don't want to in a year be like, oh, that was the most expensive laptop I ever bought. I could have bought 10 laptops. I could have bought 15 laptops with this Bitcoin, with this money that the opportunity cost. If I buy it and every time I come on the show, can we talk about where it is when I bought it? I mean, yeah. You'd be like, hey, we're up X percent. I'll go home tomorrow and I'll buy some. I'll go home tonight and buy some.
Starting point is 01:35:10 I think Max was correct about Bitcoin. People want it because it can store value. It doesn't matter. I didn't realize this way back in the day in 2011 when it was really hard to buy. So I probably would have bought it even though my friend talked me out of it. But it was just difficult to get. You'd'd arrange a meeting with someone who had some. I was actually mining on my computer like, oh, this is fun. It was just so small. Some guys bought a pizza with like 20,000 Bitcoin and it didn't matter. He got a pizza.
Starting point is 01:35:40 If people just recognized it did have value, it doesn't matter how many you have, it's going to go up. I'm not talking about to buy it. I'm just saying I will. In 10 years, it went from one cent to $50,000. $60,000. 10 years. That's like nothing.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Which means if you bought 20,000 Bitcoin, you'd be a billionaire right now. And when I first discovered Bitcoin, it was at 70 cents. A billionaire. 10 years. Billionaire. You'd buy a billionaire right now. And when I first discovered Bitcoin, it was at 70 cents. A billionaire. 10 years. Billionaire. You'd buy a yacht. I told Lydia earlier, I was almost going to buy it at 600.
Starting point is 01:36:12 I guess it was like eight years ago. And I was like, 600 is so much money. And my friend was like, buy three coin. And I was like, oh my God, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 01:36:21 Of course I didn't buy it. So when it hits a million, you're going to be like, wow. But now it's like $56,000. But don't be turned off by the cost of one because you buy it in percentages. No, I'll probably buy 30 or 40 Bitcoins when I go home. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, I'll be good. Sure.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Take it away. Good luck with that. Just throw me some if you got that much. Here we go. We got Dr. Remulak says, I did an interview with the Keystone Pipeline. I lost a potential $70,000 a year job. I am pissed. Well, it's not all bad.
Starting point is 01:36:54 $70,000 a year by next year will only be $20,000, so you won't have lost that much money. Hey, how about that? They'll have to give you $500,000 a year job. Heart goes out to you, brother. Making those Keystone Pipeline videos was one of the hardest things I did in talking to those guys. $70,000 is a great salary. I talked to guys who have been working as welders for 30, 40 years. They lost $300,000 jobs.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Tragic. Wow. We got a lot of comments from people. Jay Britton Clark says, Democrats be like, there is no war in Ba Sing Se. I thought that too. That's right. Wow. Shark Bite Biz says,
Starting point is 01:37:25 Tim, can you give my vodcast, Shark Bite Biz, some love? There you go. Give a shout out. Thanks for the super chat. Vodcast. Crandall Logan says, there is no gas shortage.
Starting point is 01:37:36 There is no massive inflation. There is no food shortage. There is no war in Ba Sing Se. There is no war in Ba Sing Se. Yup. You know why they're saying all these things? They don't want people to panic. And so I guess we're privileged.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Each and every one of you listening are fortunate enough to hear these things before it breaks out into the mainstream. The New York Times put out a tweet that said there are no long lines. That's crazy. You saw them. I see it. On the way here, you saw massive lines. That's crazy. You saw them. On the way here, you saw massive lines. Two or three, and I'll see them when I drive home tonight,
Starting point is 01:38:09 and heck, I will take a picture, Daniel Turner PTF on Twitter, and I'll post them. I wanted to post them, but I didn't want to pull over and take a photo. So listen, I have no problem reading the criticism of me where the guy says I'm selling fear. By all means, if that's what you think, don't listen to me.
Starting point is 01:38:27 If you think we're making good points, then maybe you should check out safeandreadymeals.com. They sponsor the show. It helps us produce the show. And I genuinely think they're good products. We have a bunch of them. Or don't. By all means, I could be some raving lunatic on the internet who's wrong about everything, and you shouldn't listen to me. I'm just some guy with a camera and a bunch of other guys showed up, and we talk about stuff.
Starting point is 01:38:48 If there's a problem on the horizon, don't be afraid, and do not panic. Make a decision, and make it fast. You can weather this. There's this great story where, I can't remember exactly what it was, but you've got people listening probably know. There was a shipwreck, and a bunch of soldiers were on a boat and they were freaking out. And so then one soldier took out his weapon and took it apart and then gave everyone a piece and then took out a bunch of bullets and then gave everyone else a bullet and then said, okay, shut up. We're going to rebuild this weapon
Starting point is 01:39:16 and then called on people who had the right pieces at the right point. And I was reading about, they said, psychologically, it took people out of panic mode and put them into a logical mode. They all sort of stopped and were waiting for their cue to participate in the completion of a logical process that allowed them to plan better, calm down, and assess a situation better. So panic is bad. You never want to panic. When you panic, you run into a burning building or into the direction. So I'll give you a better example. I was in Venezuela.
Starting point is 01:39:43 And on one side of the street down the block, we had a bunch of Venezuelan national guard armed with guns one block down a bunch of protesters. The protesters all start screaming and they all start running North. I ran West because I didn't panic when people, people are in those situations and they panic. They all run in the same direction. It's like, imagine a boulder is behind you and you're like, I better keep running straight. That's panicking. You should maybe take one step to the right and let it pass you by.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Your chickens do that all the time and you're like, just go to the left. I'm walking to that door and the chicken just keeps in front of you. And you're like, go to the left or the right and you eventually have to stop. Yeah, panic doesn't make you think. It's funny because we have this little thing for the chickens.
Starting point is 01:40:23 It's like this little fence area. The gate is open. And the chicken friends will all walk out and walk. They'll come out to the right where the gate is open, then go forward and turn to the left. And then the one chicken inside is just poking its head at the fence, panicking, freaking out, not understanding why it can't get through. And then I'm like, I can't tell the chicken. The door is there. They're just not smart enough.
Starting point is 01:40:44 And then it just stops and just craps right where it's standing. And I'm like, all right, you know the door is there they're just not smart enough and then it just stops and just craps right where it's standing and i'm like all right you know there's no help in these things i guess you can give them food and water but they're funny to watch yeah that's the phenomenon of herd animals and like herding it is weird how animals run in a pack together straightforward when they freak not all of them silence do good says yeah that is totally false i oversee one of the largest manufacturing plants in the world. There is no shortage in petroleum drivers. I have thousands under my supervision.
Starting point is 01:41:10 It's a hoax. Trust me. If that's true, then what's going on? Who are all these people reporting it? If I didn't see it, it didn't happen. That's right. That's my point. I got an idea.
Starting point is 01:41:20 I looked out the window. I didn't see a line. There are no lines. Hold on. Hold on. I'm going to choose to ignore this super chat and just pretend we didn't read it. Yeah. There's a truck driver shortage.
Starting point is 01:41:29 What do we do? Oh, jeez. Well, I don't know who this person is, but. Right. Could have been sarcastic, that comment. You never know. Although, in your defense and in the article's defense, it did say particularly oil and gas truck drivers because
Starting point is 01:41:45 they do need special certification and those schools were shut down again the implications of shutting everything down for covid we have a we have a clarification apparently so remember what it said it said trucker shortage but then it said the trucks were parked right not the same thing uh cj hansen says truck mechanic. There's no driver shortage. The emission trucks aren't reliable and fail monthly as if on schedule. The parts aren't available and they don't run without a fully functional emission system, parked trucks. Could it be a supply shortage instead? Well, it's very similar to the chip shortage that we're facing. I've been trying to get this computer for a long time.
Starting point is 01:42:21 We've been waiting for over a month and I don't fault the company. They're like, we're just sorry. I'm like, look, we want this particular processor i don't want to buy a machine that's going to fail on us or just not be reliable enough as we expand because we want to do the shows outside so we want a good machine that can handle a lot and they're like then we're gonna have to wait and i'm like i guess we have to i guess we have to wait it's it's getting freaky out there man oscar oleu says nc residents do tend to panic by if there is snow there is no milk or bread the same day also sheep coin ship coin go new puppy coin also used to hate ian but he's grown on me down with the fed i think shiba inu is a token not a coin okay in which case
Starting point is 01:42:59 i say at least uh dogecoin is an actual coin. Tokens operate. They're ERC-20 tokens. They operate on Ethereum. And people can just snap their fingers and there's like a million of them. There's going to be 370 trillion Shiba tokens, I think. 370 trillion? Some trillions. Send the trillions, the amount they're going to print.
Starting point is 01:43:19 It's a big number. A thousand times more. Look, it's people just trying to... I don't think Dogecoin is the greatest coin ever. Doge, yeah. Because Doge, it's just going to keep making... They're going to keep making more. It's inflationary.
Starting point is 01:43:30 I get that. But it is, at least still, to a certain degree, decentralized. There's not a lot of infrastructure happening on it. There's not a lot of work being done on it. But these tokens, man, I don't know about that. It's humor. The human and humor. It's part of what we are.
Starting point is 01:43:43 So Dogecoin is like a it's like a comedy coin. So crazy. This world did. Yeah. Another person, AI says, or says Al, there is no truck driver shortage. Regulations make the job very frustrating. I'm about to get my license suspended over my logbook. Time to leave.
Starting point is 01:43:59 Wow. It's almost like policy is shutting this stuff down. Exactly. This is the power of government regulation. This is when we need adaptability. Disasters. Freedom. Yes.
Starting point is 01:44:10 Federalism. That's right. A gaming channel says, I watched yesterday's live and you were talking about UBI. I'm not really a huge Yang fan anymore, but every time you mention UBI, it shows you don't really know much about his actual policy or you just choose not to know i disagree i think i know it's an amount because i followed him extensively and donated to him a lot and i understand his policy position it's a thousand bucks a month for every american and they forego other welfare in exchange for uh this this ubi the problem is there are a lot of people who just want money i yeah i've heard he's gonna he wanted to put a vAT tax on corporations.
Starting point is 01:44:49 So like at every point in the supply chain, the cotton is grown and shipped to the cotton manufacturer. There's a tax taken out. That's part of the value added. That's smart. Then the manufacturer ships it to the store. There's a value added tax taken out. Then the store sells it to the person. There's a value added tax taken out.
Starting point is 01:45:05 But then what's going to happen, the concern is that if he puts that in place, the corporations are going to raise the prices to compensate for that tax. So the cost of the product is going to go up. And then he gives everyone $1,000, and then eventually $1,000 can't buy anything anymore. And so then people say, $1,000 isn't enough. We need $2,000. There's $2,000, and then here we go. The cycle never ends. So in order to accept that, you'd have to dictate that the corporations can't raise their prices, which is like fascist. You don't want the government...
Starting point is 01:45:22 Yes. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. You're right. That's what it is. Otherwise, I love the concept, but man, I don't even like job economy and money. I think we're headed towards a better place. I mean, it is a myth to think that the corporations pay corporate taxes. Biden keeps talking about we're going to raise the corporate tax rate. Did they really think that like Ford Motor Company is like, oh boy, guys, we're not going
Starting point is 01:45:43 to make as much money this year. We got to pay a higher tax bill. Or are are they just gonna jack up the price of every single car they're not gonna pay or go to mexico yeah or go to mexico my biggest problem with yang if i could just say really fast i was home for mother's day in new york city where my family is from where i was born and raised blah blah blah i saw a lot of his commercials on tv um i don't like ubi but i hate the fact that his his commercials are about we're going to invest in kids and make a better tomorrow and UBI. And I'm like, have you looked around New York? Like that is not the problems facing New York, Eric Yang and Andrew Yang
Starting point is 01:46:16 or anyone else running for mayor. It was just total disconnect. Sorry. Dr. Doctor says, climate change is to Democrats what 9-11 was to Republicans. For Dems, it is a vehicle to gain control of industry. For Republicans, it was a vehicle to trample on personal privacy rights. Instead of UBI, what about negative income tax by Milton Friedman? Perhaps. Here's a good one.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Seven Om Cruz says what is your opinion on thorium molten salt reactor? Holy cow. I don't really have an opinion on that. I consider myself a pretty well versed expert on fossil fuels and on renewables but that is outside of my pay grade so i apologize i'm not going to be able to answer that my my general understanding is that they're excellent new technologies that will generate a massive energy return on energy invested better than i don't think it's better than petroleum, right?
Starting point is 01:47:05 Nuclear? Yeah. It's not, but it is really high. And the other thing – the only thing I know about thorium is that it's one of those things that for 40 years we've been talking about, but no one's ever seemed to have been able to bring it to market. Yeah, people keep – Well, there's regulations.
Starting point is 01:47:16 They're asking me to talk about it on the show. I get messages. I think it's not radioactive, but it gets hot, so you can use it to melt salt and boil salt, which will then cause steam and crank turbines, and the salt doesn't evaporate like water does. And then we could desalinate water and use that salt to fill tanks, but there would be dirt, brine, and other things, so we'd have to purify it. Yeah, interesting. All right, let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Balian says, Tim, I have friends that worked on Keystone. A lot of those leaks were thought to be due to sabotage people who would come by. Drill halfway into the pipe, and when it was turned on, it would blow the rest of the way through. And I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Absolutely believe it. No, eco-terrorism is a real problem. It's been a problem for 30 years in this country.
Starting point is 01:47:57 Yep. Because people are just dumb. There was a post, I'm not going to name the organization, where they wrote an anonymous article on how to derail trains. It's oh great that's that's stuff they they're just lunatics i played civilization 2 and one of the units was the eco-terrorist i was like what that's horrible but then i was like well these nuclear plants are causing all this pollution and they want to stop the pollution so they kind of made them seem like the good guy oh they always do yeah why are they called terrorists because they're blowing stuff up always good to blow up a nuclear plant yeah that was the the final fantasy 7 you play it as an
Starting point is 01:48:30 eco-terrorist in that game it was like super popular game and this is why we're losing the culture war yep x uh lb butcher says as a former as former private contractor just having a gun for protection is silly look up james Yeager, modern Minuteman. You need to feed the rifle with love. All right. Let's see where we're at here. True in a non a shot, but a pressure. Betta Kefker says they are never going to sell me on destroying our country because because of climate change when they won't say anything about China.
Starting point is 01:49:02 I hear you. Greatest username ever. Silence Do Good says, Sounds like Tim is realizing the same thing Joe Rogan is. This is extremely dangerous. Your staff and guest is well said. You don't have to be a Republican. You just have to be a loving person to see.
Starting point is 01:49:20 I'm not a Republican. I get called a token Republican a lot, but I don't think I am. How do you identify politically? What do you do? I guess if I had to call myself something, I would like to call myself a Federalist. I mean, they existed back at the beginning of the country. But I truly believe in Federalism and the most local, all power as concentrated at the localist level possible. So Federalist does not mean you empower the federal government. It means you empower the localist level possible. So federalist does not mean you empower the federal government. It means you empower the local government.
Starting point is 01:49:45 Yeah, it's the principle under which our country was supposed to be founded and which we lived for a long time until the Civil War. And then we concentrated everything in D.C. because we were afraid of states going rogue again. And then we built on that and built on that. And then you got an FDR. And then you got a Lyndon Johnson. And you got a George Bush.
Starting point is 01:50:04 And here we are. Daygall says hybrid vehicle technology, diesel generator in a car driving electric motors through a generator. Less fuel than internal combustion but allows electric vehicle tech to develop alongside fossil fuel phase out instead of instant industry destruction.
Starting point is 01:50:20 That sounds like you'd lose energy though because you're converting it two steps. Instead of using the combustion immediately for mechanical energy,'d lose energy, though, because you're converting it two steps. Instead of using the combustion immediately for mechanical energy, for kinetic energy, you're converting it to electricity with mechanical energy and then to electromagnetic force, it seems like. And in every conversion, you lose a large percentage of potential energy. Jay at Neighbor says, Tim, I heard your comment the other night. I am that fat truck driver from Dubuque you mentioned
Starting point is 01:50:49 and I am not racist. I thought you would like to know. So I just was like shouted out like, you know, the working class guy is like a fat truck driver from Dubuque and they're calling him a white supremacist because he voted for Trump. But he's not a racist.
Starting point is 01:50:59 But he's not. That's the point. It's like a regular working class guy. He's like not a racist. But the Democrats say he is. Samuel Eddy says, we will build communist crushing robots with capitalist steel.
Starting point is 01:51:15 It's proven that it's better quality and higher tech and we can get paid to do it. What was Liberty Prime from Fallout 3? You're looking the wrong way, Tim. Oh, go on. I don't game. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:51:28 In Fallout 3, to fight the communists, the U.S. built a giant robot called Liberty Prime, and it's like yelling things about crushing communists. It's a giant robot. Nice. It's hilarious. Best robot ever. Let's build it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:51:41 Yes. Someone may have done it. Redoubt Production says production says Daniel thoughts on nuclear energy energy going forward in the US I don't get why green energy people reject nuclear so hard it seems to be a bridge to their goal to get pure green why ignore nuclear isn't
Starting point is 01:51:56 it crazy how like in the green new deal nuclear energy is also banned like the green movement does not consider nuclear to be well it's green it's because it's a solution to their problem. Yeah, exactly. That's true. I always go to the example of France that gets around 90%
Starting point is 01:52:12 of their electricity from nuclear power. And if the French can do it, no offense to France, the French can do it, America certainly could do it. I think the concern is meltdowns of thorium. So it's like the type of nuclear because there's fusion. There's thorium.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Those are both nuclear reactions, nuclear power. But when you have uranium nuclear power that melts down and the corium melts through the stone casing into the earth and then into the dirt and is in there radioactive. Yeah, thorium doesn't do that. But I think they're afraid of uranium nuclear power because of the meltdown capability. I've talked to so many nuclear engineers who say that nuclear capability now is nothing the way it was 30, 40, 50 years ago, but we've never been able to build it. But we have, but only for the military. We have nuclear-powered military ships. Why can't we have nuclear-powered cruise ships?
Starting point is 01:53:00 It's illegal. All right. Robert Gonzalez says, if blue states are spending their money in red states, that's taking cash flow out of the blue and adding it to the red state. Wouldn't that strength strengthen the circulatory cash flow in the red state? No, because what happens is the red states are working and producing things. The blue states aren't. And then the blue states get money printed by the government to go and extract the value from the people working in the red states. And then once all of the money is out of the blue states, they'll cry again and the government will print more money and give it to them. And they'll go to the red states where they're doing hard work
Starting point is 01:53:31 and keep taking from them. And there you go. That's the cycle. It's not that simple, mind you, but you know, there you go. I love, again, the left is like the cities are generating the GDP because your cost of living is so high and you write stupid articles about Brad Pitt's junk does not mean you are producing things. Sorry. I guess technically that is a product.
Starting point is 01:53:49 It's not one I think we need. This episode should be called Brad Pitt's junk. It's a go-to mockery I do for New York media. You know, yeah, seven times your cheeseburger
Starting point is 01:53:59 looked like Brad Pitt's junk. I just watched a clip from Legends of the Fall last night. You guys ever see that movie Legends of the Fall? And each page is ever see that movie Legends of the Fall? And each page is only one photo.
Starting point is 01:54:07 You gotta click next every time. Pop up ad. Like 37 clicks in one article. Yeah, because every other click is an ad and then it's like...
Starting point is 01:54:16 Hey, Dalimar says Sean Parnell announces a bid for PA's 2022 U.S. Senate seat. That guy's awesome. Yeah, Sean Parnell's great. You had him on the show a couple times. Oh, it'd be fun to have him on again. Yeah, Sean Pernal's great. You had him on the show? A couple times.
Starting point is 01:54:27 Twice? Three times? We're having him on again soon. Oh, yeah. Super. Sean's a cool dude. You know Sean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:32 Huge fan. Huge fan. I've never met him. Yeah, definitely. He'd be great. He's so cool. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:36 One of the few candidates I actually contributed to last cycle. Right on. Yeah. His ad was amazing. Yeah. Walking through the warehouse or whatever. Yeah. Like the Dollar Shave Club model.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dollar Sean Club. Yes. So smart. Big fan. Oh, Walking through the warehouse or whatever. Like the dollar shave club. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dollar Sean club. Yeah. Big fan. Oh, I'm like a fan boy. Yeah. That's so clever. I love it.
Starting point is 01:54:51 All right. Here we go. We got Joe Sullivan says, I'm a trucker working the road right now. Truckers aren't worried about fuel shortage. We can get fuel from farther out to make sure we have enough. Tell people to not worry about getting food and fuel. Tell them to get the hell out of my way. There you go.
Starting point is 01:55:09 Very fair. Brony Ninja says you should check out Dungeon Full Dive on Kickstarter. It looks to bring D&D to VR. They're blowing past stretch goals regularly. I've backed it for $1,200 and I'll
Starting point is 01:55:23 have a painting of myself in the lobby for my reward tier wow that might be fun all right sounds amazing shark lunch says ian hamarabi was an a-hole ruined women's rights gudea was the better mesopotamian king i didn't know that thank you interesting yeah sometimes the greatest kings were not good people but they're remembered for what they did not how they acted i guess technically it's similar what you do is how you act yeah cwg aka jeremiah says while hitchhiking i heard about all of this going down and i didn't want to go into the next town because i thought i'd be killed but i always needed more water now i'm thinking about going out hitchhiking again good luck if you do i mean i don't know if you're supposed to do that. Isn't it like illegal?
Starting point is 01:56:06 Can't hitchhike or something? You know what I thought a good movie script would be? People in post-apocalypse looking for water, and they have to go deep underground in like deep caves to search for it. Are the sea people there? Yeah, something like that. Yes, of course they are. Sea people. I want to learn more about the sea people.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Oh, it's crazy. I'd never heard of them. Terrifying. Okay, I gotta look them up. Jeffrey Grunt says, There is no war in Ba Sing Se. Don't you mean Who is John Galt? Yeah. Yes, that too.
Starting point is 01:56:30 There is no war in Galt's Gulch. There are five lights. There are four lights. There are four lights in Galt's Gulch where there's no war. There you go. Grand Takas says, the labor shortage is hard in the carpenter field. I'm 19 and I haven't seen anyone my age work in the field. I started when I was 12 working with my dad. I worked all across Southern Ohio and the
Starting point is 01:56:49 youngest man I saw on the field was 22. Check this out. They're giving people $16 an hour not to work. That means there are a lot of people who should be working, who are young and need to start developing these skills. There is a year where there's going to be a gap in basic trade skills. You think that's just going to just disappear? No, no, no. What do you think is going to happen in 10 years? We're going to have stunted trades. We're going to have a period where it's like,
Starting point is 01:57:16 who's going to fix your toilet? Who's going to build your house or repair the damage to your house? Or who's going to help fix your car? And the people who should be learning how to do this didn't work. They skipped that year, maybe even two years. Look what's going on. It's still happening. Two generations.
Starting point is 01:57:29 It's concerning. Not two generations, just two years. It compounds. So if you don't know what you're doing next year, it's going to be harder to get better. You kind of almost take a step back if you don't go forward. Yeah, I'm really worried about these kids who are missing school. That's really going to affect them in the future. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I hope really worried about these kids who are missing school. That's really going to affect them in the future. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:57:45 Yeah, I hope they're okay. It's like all these parents that forced their kids to play soccer, and the kid just wanted to learn how to play the violin. Right. And now we have all these fat kids playing soccer, and we are missing a whole crop of violin players. Yep. Right?
Starting point is 01:57:57 It's like, but my son plays soccer. Put him in the darn violin. So, yes, we will miss all these trades because we sent them off to go get an economics degree. I don't want to be an economics degree. I want to be a carpenter. Uh-huh. Can't do that. Big Red says, can confirm gas is scarce in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Premium and diesel only at every gas station in my town outside of Nashville. Wow. More because of panic buying than anything else, I'm sure. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Kevin Landa Verde says, Ian is the poor man's Alex Jones. LOL. I love Alex.
Starting point is 01:58:26 The poor man's? That's a compliment. So good. Well, Alex is very wealthy. I love Alex. There you go. AR says, solar panels are more environmentally harmful than nuclear,
Starting point is 01:58:37 produce more toxic waste metals. Manufacturing them releases NF3, which is a thousand times worse than CO2. Wow. Boom. There is no perfect energy, but let's just have that conversation. NF3, is that what they said? NF3?
Starting point is 01:58:53 Nitrogen fluoride or something? Perfect energy. What would perfect energy be? Yeah, we're all looking for it, but we talk about solar and wind like it's flawless and a perfect solution, and it's not. They have drawbacks. Fossil fuels have drawbacks. We live in the real world. We don't live in fantasy land.
Starting point is 01:59:07 This is called nitrogen trifluoride. Tom Just Tom says, diesel electric hybrids are more efficient than mechanical drivetrains. Regenerative braking as energy saved. See trains. Stored power in batteries and surface area for solar. Interesting. I like it. I have a Prius.
Starting point is 01:59:23 I love it. I went from getting like 16 miles a gallon to 42 in Los Angeles. Incredible. All right. So we'll just do one more here. We got Babada says, Yeonmi Park is a North Korean defector YouTuber. Please get her on here. Call Joe Rogan and get her on there as well.
Starting point is 01:59:41 A lot of people are always telling me like, Tim, call Joe Rogan. I can't just call Joe Rogan and be like, Joe, hey, here's your list of guests for this month. It doesn't work. It's not how things happen. I would like to have Miss Park on though. But that'd be cool.
Starting point is 01:59:52 Absolutely. Especially in the event where there's any more escalation or conflict happening. But all right, let's see. We'll grab one more Super Chat. Okay, just a simple question here from Rick Bird. He says, have you talked about what's happening? Have you talked about what may be happening in Israel?
Starting point is 02:00:10 You mean what is happening in Israel? Only very, only a little bit. I am not the biggest expert or anything like that. We mentioned the 13-story building crumbling down, and a lot of people are freaking out about that. It's not just people on the left. I'm even seeing, like, defenders of, it's interesting right now. A lot of the pro-Palestinian crowd on Twitter are condemning Hamas and saying that the Palestinians
Starting point is 02:00:31 are suffering. And I think, I think it's right. I think it's the actions of bad people. And then a lot of people at the same time are criticizing Israel for knocking down a 13 story residential building to go after some of these extremists. It's not a pretty situation, man. It's hard, it's hard to deal with. What's the gist? I was reading a little about it. Someone fired rockets in there. Yeah, Hamas fired just a volley. The rockets.
Starting point is 02:00:50 These videos are insane, man. I know I've had friends in Israel tell me the stories when they're like sitting down in their bedroom and all of a sudden they hear explosions and the air raid sirens go off and they can see the shrapnel. They have like Iron Dome. The Iron Dome defense is basically they fire missiles at the missiles.
Starting point is 02:01:06 And then they just unload and retaliate. And they're not completely effective. It's not even like retaliation. No, they go after the missile sites. The missile sites. And they'll hide the missile sites in residential areas. Schools and hospitals and things like that. So it's complicated, man.
Starting point is 02:01:20 It's hard. And the missiles could be like a shoulder-mounted. Do they do shoulder-mounted? No, I don't think so. These are pretty intense rockets that are traveling like 70 miles or more. And they're getting more and more advanced. I do have one question, Tim. Wasn't Palestine having a hard
Starting point is 02:01:34 time getting the vaccine because they didn't have funding? Because they seem to have a lot of rockets for somebody who doesn't have any funding. Well, there's a big difference between the Palestinian people who are in crisis and the terror groups who are smuggling weapons in from Iran and things like that, or funded by. But, there's a big difference between the Palestinian people who are in crisis and the terror groups who are smuggling weapons in from Iran and things like that, or funded by. But, alright,
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Starting point is 02:02:26 Yeah, Daniel Turner, powerofthefuture.com. You can also see me on social media, Twitter, Daniel Turner, PTF. And it is always great to be on this show. It's a great time and great conversation. Thanks for coming, man. Really was good to see you again, man. Thank you. You guys in the chat, you rock.
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