Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #288 - Crowder Goes NUCLEAR On YouTube, SUES Over Censorship w/Forrest Of Recoil Magazine

Episode Date: May 18, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join Forrest Cooper, digital editor of Recoil Magazine and former Army Ranger to discuss Steven Crowder's pending lawsuit against YouTube, the Brooklyn Center new civilian 'police ...force', leftists who really believe the right is a source of most of the terror in the country, skyrocketing gas prices, and the SCOTUS rule in favor of the Fourth Amendment, refusing to allow police to raid homes without warrants. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm sure most of you know that YouTube has given Steven Crowder a warning, which is like a, it's a warning. They don't shut you down, but they take your content down. They then gave him a strike. Then they gave another warning on his other channel, Crowder Bits. They then gave him a second strike on his main channel, and then they gave him a strike on a second channel. This is serious, and for anybody listening who's not familiar, Crowder is a massive personality. He's a conservative comedian. He does news commentary, cultural commentary. And for the longest time, we saw censorship happening.
Starting point is 00:00:31 It was targeting the fringes, or so many people said. But as you can see, as time goes on, the fringe keeps changing. The hit pieces keep coming, and they just keep coming for the next person. Closer and closer towards the center. And then eventually everyone gets censored. We even see many anti-war leftists getting censored as well. Well, Crowder is fighting back, filing a lawsuit, or at least he's announcing he will be filing a lawsuit and an injunction against YouTube. And it's really interesting. We're going to go through what they're talking about, why they're doing it. I think this is extremely important because,
Starting point is 00:01:03 well, once Crowder goes, then who's next on the chopping block? Channels like ours. See, before they started going after Crowder, they were going after other channels as well, people like Alex Jones. And we all knew it's only a matter of time before they would make their move and slowly just get rid of more and more content creators, more and more channels. So we definitely need to talk about this and make sure we're keeping this at the forefront because this is going to be really, really important. And I'll say it too, you know, we obviously want Crowder to be able to continue doing his work. And there's also a bit of self-preservation in there. It's, I know what happens to us the moment Crowder's out of the picture. They're going to keep moving down the
Starting point is 00:01:37 line. We can't have that happen. So we'll talk about that. We've got a bunch of other news too. There's a huge Supreme Court decision, to zero like even the liberal justice has agreed cops can't use caretaking as an excuse to go in your house and take your guns without a warrant so we'll get into that we also got police reform in the minneapolis area the black lives matter activists have won and now they're going to be creating an unarmed traffic enforcement division which i can only assume will be like i want to say like a benny hill movie but with more We'll be right back. do that my name is for what are you wearing i am i am showing off some of the stuff that we work on in our magazine but now for reality i told him to wear it everybody he did it was uh it was forced you had it yeah i was like i was like hey put that on yeah put that on night vision god night vision right so it's that kind of if you want to understand a little bit about recoil
Starting point is 00:02:39 magazine we like to be edgy in that fashion looking at new products what's really coming out so instead of it just being about whether a firearm you know how evaluating a firearm we talk about culture we talk about night vision how to do it and so it's it's really about education and aspiration you change stuff gun stuff gun stuff yep the core idea being culture leads policy you change culture by going out and doing stuff. Speaking of Steven Crowder, the other day we – so on Saturday I went and actually I finally got the Sig M400 that Crowder had sent to me. Thank you very much, Steven.
Starting point is 00:03:15 And we took it out to the range in West Virginia, and everyone was super impressed with it. So we had a great time. So Forrest and I and a few others went out. We fired a bunch of guns. And we also brought out the Barrett MA2A1 and tried to blow up the gong, but we weren't able to do it. But it was fun firing that. So that's what we did yesterday. And, again, the weapon from Crowder was incredible.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Everybody was super impressed with it. I was super impressed with it. Really grateful for getting that. So, again, we're going to talk about the censorship stuff. We've got Ian East chilling. What's up, everybody? Ian Crossland. Good to be here. You've got me in the corner pushing buttons. I'm Sarah Patch Litz. Before we
Starting point is 00:03:51 get started with the show, go to timcast.com, click the big members only button, and you can sign up to become a member. You can do it through Stripe or PayPal. See, we're building up the site. We're making it better because we know many people have asked. But this site exists because the fear of censorship was very real. And I realized if I didn't start setting something up that would exist outside of YouTube, I got all my eggs in one basket.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And, you know, we can get banned the same as Crowder can. So just like Crowder has the Mug Club, which you guys should definitely check out and support him considering what they're going through and how important this lawsuit is. We have TimCast.com where you can join us as well. And when you do, you get access to the members area, a ton of exclusive members-only podcast segments and full episodes. It's really, really great. We were hanging out with Robbie Starbuck last week talking about neocon rhinos threatening to quit the Republican Party. And he made a really good point that the tumor is excising itself. Oh, we're so upset about it. So definitely become a member. Just be there because in the event that we get a strike, look, even one strike, if we say something wrong at any moment, we don't know what we can't produce any content on any channel for a week.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Same thing is happening to Crowder right now. They got him out for two weeks. So in the event that, uh, in the event that happens, you can find us at timcast.com, but don't forget to like share, subscribe,, hit that notification bell if you're listening on iTunes, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Give us a good review and take the URL on YouTube and share it around. It really, really does help, especially considering this is the big fight, everybody. Let's talk about this first story right here. LouderWithCrowder.com officially suing YouTube. Steven Crowder initiates legal action against YouTube from Crowder's website. They report last week,
Starting point is 00:05:27 louder with Crowder LLC through its lawyer gave a legal notice to YouTube of the intent to file a lawsuit and seek an injunction. They go and mention they have a video available on their website. Last fall after the Vox adpocalypse, YouTube remonetized Crowder's channel. They said we had a record-breaking election live stream
Starting point is 00:05:42 in November and incredibly successful streams thereafter. If there ever was a target painted on our backs, it was then. Once we hit the new year and a new president ascended, the landscape of social media shifted in favor of the left. Democrats took control of the presidency and now have control of both houses of Congress. As such, YouTube and other big tech platforms feel emboldened with very few lawmakers standing in the way. He says in 2021, YouTube hit them with a warning of a strike over election content, then issued the first hard strike.
Starting point is 00:06:13 The first strike was related to a COVID policy in their March 18th video of the one year anniversary of 15 days to flatten the curve. The studio is familiar with YouTube's policies on COVID. So I'll just give you the gist of it. And I went over this the first time they gave him a strike. Crowder did not break any rules in this capacity. And I got really angry because I get this email from Google when this is going down, like well in advance of any of the censorship, straight up saying, here are the exact conditions you must meet to violate this policy? And I said, that's easy. They said, you can't say two specific things together, which obviously I can't say because YouTube will take
Starting point is 00:06:51 us down if I do, even if I explain it. That's the way this works. Their algorithms don't understand the difference between explaining something and it's all the same to them. Crowder never said that there was widespread fraud. Crowder never said that there was widespread fraud. Crowder never mentioned about, you know, anything about overturning or anything like that. They gave him a strike, which is bunk. The next one, the second one is the craziest. Apparently, they're claiming that Crowder and his team were glorifying the death of Micaiah Bryant for agreeing with the police that the police officers were justified in the shooting.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Now, of course, media matter says that they were mocking, you know, the woman. I don't see that as still violating the policies, which says, you know, glorifying or reveling in someone's death when you're like, hey, this is the law. If you break it, this is what's going to happen. I think YouTube is reaching. As Crowder explains, he says the concern they have is that YouTube is actively looking for violations in their past videos that aren't actually violations in order to issue a third hard strike once they're allowed to stream to the platform, which would de-platform them from YouTube. YouTube has a pattern of applying policies and even stretching those
Starting point is 00:08:00 policies beyond any reasonable reading of the policy in order to harm channels which take a contrary view of their opinions. We experienced this. We only have ever gotten a warning, but it was on our episode with Alex Jones. And they claimed that a hyperbolic statement was glorifying violence or something. And they took the full podcast down. And I said, it was half a second. Can I just snip it out? And they're like, no. They were looking for any possible excuse to take our video down. And I think that's pretty obvious to everybody. So he was going to mention why you should care. No matter what side of the political aisle you're on, YouTube isn't encouraging debate. It's trying to squash debate, trying to eradicate ideas from its platform it simply does not like.
Starting point is 00:08:43 One day those ideas are about the election. Then they're about COVID. Now those ideas include applauding an officer for saving a woman's life. When will enough be enough? Well, this is really important. But I got to say to Stephen and crew, obviously, we all care. I think the people who watch this show care about principle and recognize the commies going to have their free speech.
Starting point is 00:09:04 The Nazis going to have their free speech, the Nazis going to have their free speech, and we're going to be annoyed with them. But we're going to argue. And that's the purpose of free speech. We want our rights protected. And that means people you don't like, they get rights to. The problem is the people we're up against. I hate to call it left and right because it really doesn't make sense economically or even in terms of tradition versus progressivism. It's just zealots who want power, whose ideology is there is no truth but power, and then people who are like, let's have a fair debate, a fair argument over this. So they're suing. They're filing an injunction. And I wonder what precedent could be set.
Starting point is 00:09:45 There's a lot of people need to understand, like when we watch James O'Keefe filing these lawsuits against the New York Times and CNN, a lot of people say you can't do it. You can't do it for this, that, and this reason. Oh, it's going to get thrown out. You can only do it until you do it. If you keep backing down and saying, obviously there's no point in suing because, oh, what's going to happen? It's going to be a waste of money. Okay, listen, I understand if you don't have the money to file a lawsuit, that's a challenge. But if you just sit there and let these companies do this, there will never be precedent set. So I'll throw it to you guys. Otherwise, I'm going to keep ranting on the censorship.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Ian, obviously, you were talking about before the show creating terms of service for mines because you helped put that together. Yeah, honestly, in addition to it being up against, like you said, zealots, people that are just kind of crazy about political correctness and stuff, we're also up against centralization of power and machine learning algorithms that aren't necessarily – and we're seeing the flaws in the system of a centralized service that's dictating what can and can't be said through a machine algorithm because stuff gets taken out of context. Like you said, you can't explain certain things even though you're not using it derogatorily. Because the voice-to-text thing they do for captions would just show the sentence. It doesn't understand.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I'm like, here's exactly what YouTube said I can't say. They'd be like, we see it in the code. Gone. You see this also in the firearms industry or the gun world. So there's gun tubers, people who make YouTube videos. You could say Grand Thumb's a big one. Warrior Poet Society's a good one. Hickok 45. Hickok's
Starting point is 00:11:09 great. He's classic. Yeah, I love that. So, but I mean, you can, so the firearms industry actually in some ways not the industry but the community, because culture as well, was somewhat saved by the internet because it allowed people from rural areas, because a lot of more firearms ownership in rural areas, communicate with one one another and then they started making youtube
Starting point is 00:11:27 channels how so that people could learn how to do things and it is ironically controversial in the united states right now i don't want to use ironically too heavy because it's way too hipster but it's you're right though yeah right no but it's it's ironically controversial that a person can have their page taken down because they were teaching somebody how to not hurt themselves do you remember when google banned the word gun yes this was the best thing because uh so you couldn't search for the word or or any combination of the three letters g-u-n yep so i searched for the anime gundam yep it wouldn't come up You couldn't buy Japanese action figures. That's how stupid their censorship is. Yeah, like my personal Instagram is at FoxrooOfficial,
Starting point is 00:12:10 and my search page is all Gundams and motorcycles because it's like you look at my page, I've got guns and motorcycles, but my search history, if you look at the search page, it's all anime. Gundam? It's all anime characters. Are you searching for that?
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's just defaulting it? Well, I mean, I did play Final Fantasy VII once. Great game. Yeah, right? Great game. One of the best. The remake was good, I hear. I enjoyed the remake.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yeah. Exceptional music. Anyway, Google only – like a lot of people were – so we went to the range yesterday. We were filming the vlog, and we fired the Barrett – what is it? M m82a1 that's the kind of nomenclature that people use yeah and uh 50 bmg and the and and crowder gave uh he sent me a year ago a sig m400 and i also got a a sig uh tread site and uh it was amazing it was just really really great and we did it all we did it all safe i mean for us you clearly know how to shoot. We're giving instruction.
Starting point is 00:13:05 We also had the instructor on site. And a lot of people were just like – I got asked like 10 times, are you sure you can do this? Like YouTube will delete your vlog, won't it? And I'm like, I went through the rules. They say as long as you're showing the weapon and shooting it in a range. I mean obviously they're YouTubers who are still producing. But I don't know. Maybe we'll get the channel demonetized.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah, I mean, there's different types of content you can see people creating. Either it's just like short films. People do that all the time, usually with airsoft guns, but you get the point. But they also do how to disassemble a firearm so you can clean it. So when your channel,
Starting point is 00:13:40 your video gets demonetized because you're teaching somebody how to safely clean their firearm, you're getting dinged with something that because you're teaching somebody how to safely clean their firearm. You're getting dinged with something that says you're teaching someone how to manufacture. Assemble, right? Which is one of those things where the people who are running the asylum are not the right people kind of thing. Yeah, it's contradictory. You're watching
Starting point is 00:14:05 people perform gun safety and so they punish you for it yes so one of the things they said is that uh you can only show a weapon in appropriate place like a gun store or a range you can't just have one in like an office room or something i guess they'll give you a strike sure you could so uh there's a local range out here and they and they have rooms that look just like classrooms because they do safety trainings. Yeah, you can't do that. No. No, absolutely. They'll be like, oh, that's not –
Starting point is 00:14:30 It looks too much like this. Right. It looks like a school. It could be, yeah. And then you're going to get in trouble. You're going to get dang-dignate censored. And therein lies the big problem. I love how you said it was ironic because America is – it's a gun country.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And these massive services namely youtube will ban your content and i i have to wonder too there's there's there's definitely an overlap here obviously you know crowder is usually he got i think what does he what does he have the walther on his on his desk he's got a walther yeah uh-huh and uh i wonder i i because i've always been curious about that i'm like dude's got a gun sitting on his desk. Or he's wearing – he's got his holsters. And I'm just like, I'm pretty sure there's some Democrat anti-gun person sitting at YouTube HQ in Silicon Valley with their finger over the ban button. Just like, stupid gun. Moron gun.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I don't fan you. And then they're just waiting. They're waiting. Like Crowder said, they're looking for something to get him for. Yeah, and I think that's the part where you establish intent. It is not really about honest disagreement. We're looking at intent now. But the bigger question is, and I'm glad Crowder is filing legal action.
Starting point is 00:15:37 This is a good thing because, like I said, you've got to sue and then make that argument. But they can ban whoever they want, whatever they want. Right, Ian? According to most terms, I haven't read the YouTube terms. I know Twitter says we can ban you at any time for any or no reason. That's intentional. So it's interesting now that we as individuals who operate on these platforms have no legal protections.
Starting point is 00:16:03 And it's interesting. Maybe we shouldn't. Maybe it's our own fault. That's why I up you know timcast.com because i'm like okay i mean i'm fairly libertarian if youtube has got a company they don't owe me anything and it's their platform if somebody came into my house and started you know like throwing food on the floor i'd be like get out someone came into my house started screaming a bunch of nazi stuff i'd be like dude get out not not gonna be having that the difference is youtube is has has been subsidized by google they've monopolized the space there are platforms where you can upload videos but youtube is absolutely dominated and now
Starting point is 00:16:37 it's kind of the only place where you can run a business it's a really really complicated argument no other service offers monetization in the same way that YouTube does. What's this? Or do they? Recoil is currently building, and we have Recoil TV, which functions similar to YouTube and we are building a monetization path. It's expensive to host these videos, though.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And we do, we actually we have it. So if you are a firearms content creator, get a hold of us because we'll put you on Requel TV. It doesn't cost you anything. Wow. But you guys got to fund that. Run ads or something?
Starting point is 00:17:11 We fund it through the fact that people like our publication. There you go. But it can get really, really expensive. So, for instance, in the members-only section of our website, we have to pay for that bandwidth, and it is a lot. It gets up to tens of thousands of dollars. People don't realize this. YouTube's free. So we broadcast right now on YouTube. You know, we get 40K concurrent views, you know, on average during the election, we had like 140 or some on one podcast. That means for the two to three megabits up we're sending out, we're sending out 140,000 times two megabits, all of that data YouTube's
Starting point is 00:17:46 paying for. And then they take a small percentage of super chats and they take a percentage of advertisements. So the issue is they're fronting the costs for all of these things. Should we be entitled to the service? And that's where things get challenging. And man, I'm pretty much on the fence. But so long as I'm on the fence in terms of like their business, private company. But where where I draw the line is, if they'm like i think that they've they've grown and taken over the commons we don't have town hall discourse anymore people are coming to this show and and hearing arguments and discussions and commenting it's take youtube youtube's effectively dominated the space well now they owe they they owe public discourse in which case i think it's extremely dangerous if they're going to start removing people who are setting up maybe uh who
Starting point is 00:18:51 are setting up their businesses maybe a better way to put it is if a private company bought all of the available business space in in downtown yeah at a certain point people are going to be like okay fine you can own it but you can't ban people for selling a product you don't like like people can pay you rent you can set up people for selling a product you don't like. Like people can pay you rent. You can set up terms for the property. But we need commerce to exist. Crowder needs to be able to speak. We need to be able to have reasonable discourse.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And the problem I see with this is that massive multinational corporations, if they see YouTube get away with this, they can just start to dominate whatever public space they want, whatever area of the commons they want, and then just say but it's a private company it's ours now shut everybody out and then i don't know what people get violent well on the forefront of that you're also looking at what is the intent again you think about it in the sense of we could talk about guns we can talk about anything political even with
Starting point is 00:19:40 steven crowder do they not want him to be heard or do they not trust him as a good faith actor is a good question, right? Well, I think if you look at the left faction tends to be, in my opinion, a there is no truth but power faction. Yep. They accuse the right of being that. And it's really insane that perhaps many of the establishment Republicans, for sure. But when we're looking at anti-critical race theory individuals and their alignment on the right, these are the people who reject that ethos. And so quite literally, you have the left lying and accusing the right of what it's doing itself, which creates a serious problem.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Do they think Crowder is a bad faith actor no i think they believe crowder is truthful and they don't like it right because they're bad faith actors who are trying their anger they're angry by his success they're angry by his success there are a lot of leftists a lot maybe maybe the majority who are good faith but they're following the the bad faith pipe piper believing they're you know following the truth and then they say the same thing about trump and trump's diehard fans and i'm like okay but that's not the majority of whatever this faction is yeah there are a lot of people who are like begrudgingly voting for trump you know and then you have a lot of people left who begrudgingly voted for biden so it's interesting but in the end
Starting point is 00:21:00 people like the you know in in the intellectual dark web, disaffected liberals, moderates have more in common with conservatives based on moral frameworks and rejection of critical race theory and left identitarianism, believing in free speech than the establishment Democrats. And there's a big difference between voting for Trump and voting for Biden. You vote for Trump because he's a human Molotov cocktail or because you really like him in his policies. People vote for Biden because he's a human Molotov cocktail or because you really like him and his policies. People vote for Biden because he's a feeble old man they think they can overtake and
Starting point is 00:21:28 steal power or they genuinely like his policies, but I believe that was probably like a tiny faction. Most of the people voted for him because he's hated Trump. Based on that, you cannot build a government. Yeah, what, a house divided against itself? I know, most people
Starting point is 00:21:43 have more in common than they realize i think that's occupy wall street showed that when when people were railing against the federal reserve and like the monetary system kind of putting us all against each other man to stop that it's so sad when people get confused and start to go at each other like this i don't like it yeah the no truth but power argument is a great form of sort of moral cynicism, but it also it's very manipulative. It's not a very well, first of all, it's very honest because the people who say it are only interested in power. So at least they're on it. They're consistent in that sense. But it says rest in power. There is no truth but power, which is how I'm going.
Starting point is 00:22:20 And I'm going to use that philosophy to take your power and give it to me. It's not the statement. There's no truth, but power is not complete. It's only the first half. It's there is no truth, but power. And I deserve it. You know, it's interesting because there is. I understand what they're saying when they say that.
Starting point is 00:22:38 That what's the point of having an argument with you? If if they want to create their own system, their own utopia, their own leftists, you know, perfect world. There's no point having an argument with a bunch of they want to create their own system their own utopia their own leftists you know perfect world there's no point having an argument with a bunch of people who disagree with them they just need to take your power away destroy your system and then build a new one so for the time being i don't i don't think the core of their philosophy is there is no truth but power it's in order for me to build my utopia i must seize all of your power and the truth be damned and that's where we're at right now. And it leads to some very interesting things, which is our next segment here, actually.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So, Forrest, you're based out of Minneapolis. I live in Minneapolis for the time being. For the time being. And you've got to see a lot of what's been going on. We got the story from the Star Tribune. Here we go. Brooklyn Center passes police reform package. Bravo.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Black Lives Matter. They've won this one. The failed go. Brooklyn Center passes police reform package. Bravo. Black Lives Matter. They've won this one. The failed leadership of Brooklyn Center has caved. One of the things they're going to be doing, an unarmed civilian traffic enforcement division.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Here's my favorite thing. Civilian. Are police civilians? Technically, yes. Technically, no. I'm not going to be able to answer that one because it's – I think you could make the argument in many ways that they're functionally neither right now. Functionally neither.
Starting point is 00:23:52 They're functionally neither because, I mean, sure, you have – they're not citizens in the sense that they work for the government. Where do we make that distinction either is another question because I think that's a very modern way of thinking. Yeah. Because a soldier is not considered a citizen, but he's still a citizen of the country. You mean civilian? He's not considered a civilian. Yeah. But they're citizens.
Starting point is 00:24:14 They're citizens. They're civilians. Yeah. Sorry about that. Yeah. They're combatants. They're armed forces. So conventionally the answer is no.
Starting point is 00:24:23 So I would say that if you're talking from a military perspective, the answer is yes. They're not going in foreign war. They're literally living in a small town and dealing with local domestic law. They're civilians. So the line gets blurred because you have you have when you talk about the police, you're you're talking about a very large swath of people. You've got your small-town sheriff, and you've got CIA, you've got FBI, you've got BORTAC, you've got people who look much more militant. Most people don't see them. And are they both considered the police?
Starting point is 00:24:58 Well, so let's get into the meat and potatoes here. They've successfully reformed their police, and's it's beyond what i would consider because i've said we need reform but i'm usually talking about creating more divisions like an unarmed traffic enforcement okay well maybe if the idea uh if the idea is like you see someone commit a traffic violation you write down their license plate and they mail them a ticket that's something they've been talking about doing but what do you you think would happen if someone, an unarmed civilian, tries pulling over? Let's say there's a guy, and maybe he was at a party. And he wakes up, and he's got a gun, and he goes to one of the people who lives there.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And then he says, give me all your money, and then shows that he's got a gun. Let's say that's the person. And now this person is wanted for that crime, which is a felony. Let's say they're driving, and the unarmed person pulls them over for whatever means the division is able to do it. The lights turn on, I guess. They have some kind of car. And they get out. What do you think happens to a person in a situation like this?
Starting point is 00:25:55 You do have a disparity of power and you also have a disparity of the duty. So is it the duty of the unarmed civilian to pull somebody over or is it just a privilege of their position right so please please stop yeah i mean you're powerless to employ it but are you is there the burden the onus of the state on you to go do it do you have a quota oh well there's more people drunk driving in our neighborhood right now yeah there are they're all armed and i'm not right you're like what are you gonna do orders are bad you bad. It's the bureaucratic problem. I feel like this is opening the door
Starting point is 00:26:28 to defund the police completely. And it's kind of funny too because one of the ways police get funding is their tickets. And I'm not a fan, especially when they do quotas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 So now it's like they're being defunded by taking away their ability to issue traffic violations. I think it can be seen as a lot more sinister too. So you take your example earlier. They see you commit a violation
Starting point is 00:26:49 or they put up traffic cameras and they see you run a red light. Then they send a ticket to your house, which you cannot fight. Or if you try to fight it, it's going to cost you time and money. So you just sort of now have to pay it. Most people do.
Starting point is 00:27:00 But if you don't, then they send armed people with guns to your house. Now you have a position of creating that pipeline of going from, I don't like you. I write you a ticket for something that could be bogus, could be legitimate. It goes to your house, knowing that you're not going to pay it. And then you don't fight. Bro, now they can search your house. Now they search your house now they can seize your property this is called um look at what this is already in effect in london wow right you go to london you run a
Starting point is 00:27:36 red light you park in the wrong place you will have a ticket sent to your house and you can't fight it well you can and then if you don't pay it the cops show up and now you've got some kind of crime they can let us in. It creates a paper trail. It's crime by bureaucracy, not crime. Now, if they pull you over while you're driving, you get a ticket and don't pay it, they can still go to your house and arrest you and go into your house. Yes, but there was somebody there to witness it. That is the purpose of American policing is that a person has to do it.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I think, though, in the end, this would increase the likelihood of these because I once got, uh, I once got in the mail, two tickets from Chicago, final determination, they said. And I was like, what is this? I had gotten two parking tickets for parking outside of my dad's place in Chicago, but I had a permit. I had a parking permit. I guess a cop, somebody wrote me two tickets, never put them on my car. I never got notice of them until it was a final determination. And so when I got it, I called and said, what is this? I have a permit to park where I did. And they were like, sir, it's too late. You lost your chance to find the ticket. So imagine you get pulled over. All right, let's, you get pulled over, you get a ticket, you don't pay it. They can eventually come to your house maybe to serve a warrant for failure to appear or something
Starting point is 00:28:41 like that. But let's say you never even knew you did anything wrong. Let's say you didn't do anything wrong. Let's say you were driving right and one of these unarmed people was just like, eh, he blew a stop sign as far as I'm concerned. You get a ticket in the mail. You never realize it came in the mail. You're like, I don't know what these are. You throw it in the trash.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Then one day they show up at your house and you're like, what's happening? When there's an interaction between you and the officer, I think there's a likelihood you're going to be aware of what's happening. This will probably increase the likelihood cops start showing up to people's homes, and I can only imagine that would maintain the same ratio of violent encounters. It's not going to get better, that's for sure. I mean it's not because now you're going to take the cultural perception of police police as a threat in certain areas and you're going to cross that you're going to paint that across the whole population right but apparently i was reading this and they they are going to pull people over yes so i can only imagine that
Starting point is 00:29:35 people are going to be like you get pulled over and a guy walks up in like a polo and khakis and he's like excuse me sir you are speeding i'm supposed to write you a who are you a cop no sir i'm i'm not a cop later yeah or what obligation do i have to stop for someone's not a cop i mean are you just going to look back in your mirror and say it's a red and yellow light not a red and blue light so i might as well just drive home oh i live in a gated community you're not allowed in here so if you come in here i'm going to call the actual cops to tell you to not come in i think it's funny i think it's funny these people go around like smashing a window starting fires we saw what happened right right now in minneapolis they're they're people are
Starting point is 00:30:09 freaking out they're demanding more cops they're increasing the budgets and then this one town brooklyn center which is like north just like basically due north all of a sudden they're like we're gonna do the opposite we're just gonna we're just gonna you know carte blanche yeah i mean brooklyn center is gonna get eaten by Minneapolis. It's going to get folded in. I mean, has that happened recently? Folded in? Like, it's within the counties. Brooklyn Center is essentially Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:30:35 So what's it like living in Minneapolis? Is it the apocalyptic wasteland we all believe it is because we watch a lot of internet videos? It's not completely the apocalyptic wasteland. But it is basically Kabul or Mosul. It feels a lot more like being in Kandahar than it does like being in America. But do you mean that for real? Yeah. I mean it's not quite the same.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I'm not driving an armored vehicle around. But there are definitely – like we have new SOP, standard operating procedures amongst us and our friends and our family. You actually served though. You were – Yeah. I was in the military for a while. He has no idea what he's talking about. Minneapolis. No, I have had the privilege of being in the armed forces for a while.
Starting point is 00:31:16 What did you do in the military? I was a ranger, army ranger. So it was a great time. So now, being back home, it's like, what, similar? It's not as bad. So now being back home and it's like what? Similar? It's not as bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I mean no one's burning tires to block the roadways for three months of the year. There's an autonomous zone where they like put up barricades and threaten people with violence. So in the same way, there are places that we just don't go. Like there are roads you don't take. No go zones. There's definitely like, hey, we communicate. My family, we communicate. And it's like, hey, I'm going to go get groceries.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Okay, cool. I mean, that's kind of normal for some people. But we're definitely more conscious about what we're looking at, what threats we're looking for, what kind of concerns we have. And then we have a little network of people that are all friends and families in the Twin Cities that we're all looking out for each other. Is this new? Like these behaviors and these offensive tactics? It absolutely initiated last year when the riot started. We spontaneously set it up. We just called all the people that we knew.
Starting point is 00:32:19 We built a kind of a network through social media conversation or through Signal or through text messages, and we established ways that we talked to each other so that we could very effectively verify rumors. So one of the worst things that happened during the riots last year, not this year, was essentially the entirety of social media became an advertisement for things that aren't happening the the white supremacists are coming down from new brighton the these people are coming from here we just saw this thing happen and it was like everyone was on so high alert that they were spreading rumors so quickly which added to the fervor it added to the the terror in the sense and so what the first thing one of the things that we had to do as, as a community is by our own volition, by our own choice, verify information ourselves.
Starting point is 00:33:10 So, okay. If someone's saying that the, the, this, this is on fire or they're moving towards one of the, one of the concerns that they had last year was if the police provide a strong enough presence in defending of precinct or they harden targets in like when they mean
Starting point is 00:33:27 hardened target like make it difficult for people to loot and riot in certain areas they're going to move into the residential areas so the moment we heard that it was like okay how can we verify that information because that sounds a lot like hearsay but it also has a big threat so you're basically creating like a neighborhood watch is that what happened happened? Yeah. I mean, it's an neighborhood watch. Unofficial. It's like, you know, you have a chat group. Remember when I was talking about this maybe like a week or two ago when I said what's going to start happening is there's more violence. You'll see the formation of like local community groups.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Exactly. They'll start texting each other. Hey, I heard this. Are you all right? You know, there'll be text groups. Yep. And it's going to escalate from there. Yeah, and we took it a step further of having triggers and conditions or conditions and appropriate responses.
Starting point is 00:34:11 So in the event that X happens, we do Y. In the event that we see this happen, so if the protest goes to this precinct, we go to this person's house and get their wife and child out and move them out of the city and put them into a safe house. And we did that. We had to do exactly that. You mentioned earlier, you said for the time being. So you're getting out, aren't you? Yeah. We're looking at moving out of state.
Starting point is 00:34:34 There's not a – I mean our families are there, but there's not a lot of reason to live in Minneapolis right now. It does not look like a bright future. Everybody's going to Texas, I guess. Texas is a big one yeah it's kind of crazy when you when you mention like these streets you don't go down and that's like a new thing since the start of the riots that's why i asked you yeah i mean the term minnesota nice is not entirely pejorative it also does mean that like generally speaking you can drive through most of the city and not be in actual fear for your life but when i go to a place and i see a roadblock with armed people that just by looking at
Starting point is 00:35:08 them know that they have no idea what they're doing with that firearm, given it's their right to have it, but I know that they're not going to, they don't know what they're doing with it. I'm not going to put myself in the position of no reward and all risk. I want to show you guys this, uh, this, this post I found on Reddit. So I'm browsing reddit and uh political humor okay if you go on reddit and you click all you'll see every post it is a hive of scum and villainy it's just a lot of people who are really dumb they don't do research
Starting point is 00:35:38 it's very tribal political humor this is one of the front page posts. It says radical left. It shows the photo from the Capitol and says it cracks me up when the left is referred to as radical, as if the left is running around carrying assault rifles, denying science and discussing not accepting the election results. And I'm like, does any of these people have the internet four years ago like four four years did they use the internet first of all okay fair point no one is running around with assault rifles that's just stupid nope no one not not anyone i mean it'd be kind of a crazy thing to see a guy running around with like an actual m16 or maybe even like a legit belt-fed machine gun of some sort but no uh no one's that. I think they just mean rifle in general.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Okay. Well, the left is doing that like a hundred times more often than the right does it. They've been denying science and the election for four years. But these people, they live in a bubble.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yep. I think it's funny. I wanted to bring this up because you're mentioning Minneapolis. You live there. And I'm like, they got – I was reading a story where it was like 30 gunshots ring out at like 10 p.m. And then it's like by 11 p.m. another 30 gunshots ring out. A guy's on a rooftop.
Starting point is 00:36:56 They say, Star Tribune, I think it was an op-ed. They say a guy on a rooftop with an assault rifle. And I'm like, it's probably just a regular rifle. But I get your point. There's a guy on a roof with a gun. I've seen picture and i know where the gunshots happen because yeah so what's going on what's going on in the autonomous zone so in the autonomous zone from what i understand and this is going to be a combination of um it's it's a difficult thing it's a difficult piece to explain entirely but what you have is essentially people thinking that the cops are going to come
Starting point is 00:37:23 in and raid their buildings so you'll have like when you the picture that we're talking about was classically a guy on a rooftop with an ar-15 style rifle sitting up there like he's providing overwatch for the city right or for for the neighborhood so in case a police officer or the police come down or whatever maybe it's like this guy wanted to shoot cops we don't i can't i'm not going to ascribe that. I can't. I can't tell you what he wanted, but maybe he was genuinely afraid for his neighborhood. Maybe he was afraid that a rival gang was going to do something.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I don't know. But I do know that when you you can if you go out into Minneapolis at night and you go into the right neighborhoods, you will find people on rooftops with guns. You will find people. But that's just like rooftop Koreans, right? Like people who want to protect their businesses. In some cases cases i'm assuming yes but let's let's just hope so there was i take them from who though right is the writers or you could make the argument that the autonomous zone is trying to protect their people from cops taking in you could say that
Starting point is 00:38:19 people in that area were trying to protect their own businesses. These people are insane about cops. Do you know what happens? I'm going to let everyone in a big secret, and this is going to shock a lot of people. You know what would happen if you were in a big city and you're just walking down the street and there were two cops in front of you and they're walking down the street? You know what would happen if you walked past those cops? Absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's like Chicago is notorious for its bad cops.
Starting point is 00:38:45 We had a video where like this cop grabbed – not a video but a story about a cop grabbed a meter maid because she was riding a – he parked illegally. She rode up to take it. So he grabbed her by the throat and lifted her up and slammed her against the wall. Chicago is notorious for crooked cops. And I see a cop on the street. I'm like, howdy. Hey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 These people are like, put up barricades. We need guns. They're police. They're hunting us. They're really delusional, man. But I'll mention this. I think it was in Philly during the riots. There were people tweeting like, hey, stay away from this neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:39:16 There's a bunch of far right guys on roofs with guns, on rooftops with guns. And they post a photo of a bunch of dudes on roofs with guns. All the businesses were safe. Yep. No, we saw, we encountered a place in Minneapolis that, this last year, if you looked at New Brighton and where all the looting was, I got to meet some people that it was four guys outside of a tobacco shop. And they all had AK-47s and they're just chilling there because that was one of two buildings that did not get looted in the area. And the good news is the left only wants to ban – I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I shouldn't say the left. The Democrats only want to ban AR-15s, so AKs are totally fine. Yeah, let's hope so. Yeah, yeah. No, no. Because there are – I mean, was it – we already instituted a ban of Russian-made AKs. Like, import bans is a big issue. Right, right, right, right. So good news is a lot of companies have moved their manufacturing to the United States,
Starting point is 00:40:07 but that is a backdoor form. I just think it's funny when they tweet all day like, you know, we got to ban AR-15s. No one should have one. I'm like, I'll get an AK. Got it, buddy. Thanks. Do you know anything about what you're saying? Because it's meaningless.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah, you got to ask the question every once in a while with gun control is is is it ignorance or is it malice those are two different things yeah it's definitely malice oh yeah and at what point in time does ignorance become malice because if you look at the foray of data that we have in any relating to gun violence and gun control i mean it's not a hard argument to make the problem is that you've made it so many times that no one cares anymore. The big violence happens in places where there's gun control. Perhaps we should start making the conclusion that gun control begets violence. And I think malice
Starting point is 00:40:54 is, so obviously nothing's absolute. There's probably a lot of ignorant people who just follow along. But it's got to be malice, and you need to understand this. When you make the same argument 800,000 times and they don't care and keep lying okay it's not ignorance anymore like when someone says that stupid meme you know no self-respecting hunter using assault weapon and then you're like okay first of all assault weapon is a nebulous term
Starting point is 00:41:16 that means different things in different places and it's ill-defined because i love that meme of the ruger 1022 with with with and without a pistol grip and one's an assault weapon and one's not. And then you mentioned that hunters use AR-15s. Like, I think it's the most popular rifle used in hunting. I wouldn't say the most popular, but it's very common. And you've got to look at the different types of hunting because hunting is a broad spectrum. If you're hunting wild boar, absolutely. But these people clearly don't know, don't care.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And after you explain it, they say, shut up. They just want a tribal win and they want to take power away for you for themselves. Or it's worse because they just want to have a conversation. Right. They just want to have a conversation. Right. The story that I get to have is when I went to college after the military, in my senior year, the Parkland shooting happened. And so the woke chapter of the school decided to get together and host a conversation about gun control. The extent of the
Starting point is 00:42:13 knowledge of the people in the room, there was me, one other veteran, and a guy who had grown up hunting and who was an avid hunter. The three of us were the only three who had ever owned firearms, ever bought them. And the other 30 people the extent of their knowledge on anything to do with firearms was watching a single vice video so they were they were well versed and experienced yeah well the point the point is like yes oh absolutely right they knew exactly what they're talking about and the problem that you have there is we can look at each other as equals as people but we do not have equal information we do not know you don't when someone thinks that they deserve a position at the table when they're not even capable of being literate on the subject so why are we debating are you saying service guarantees
Starting point is 00:42:56 citizenship i am reading that book for the first time because i've mentioned it i'm reading i'm reading starship troopers for the first time right now. Well, yeah. It's a huge problem, especially for me because I got – there's a photo of me that Mike Feedy took. So he came out. He's the BMX guy from the vlogs, and he came out with us. And as I was carrying the Barrett, which is a ridiculously large and heavy gun, I had this grin. Just put it that way. It was a grin.
Starting point is 00:43:22 It was a grin. I'd call it something more, but we don't swear. We don't do that here. Smirk? No, I swear grin. It was a grin. It was a grin. I'd call it something more, but we don't swear. We don't do that here. Smirk? No, I swear grin. It's a, you know. Anyway, somebody commented, Tim's journey from I'm in favor of some reasonable gun control to two absolutists is the greatest character arc ever or something like that. And I was like, it's a good point.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And the issue was I lived in a city. I was interested in hearing the thoughts and opinions of those who owned guns but having never fought uh having well i did fire one but having not owned any or gone through the process to own any or learned anything about different types of ammunition or weapons i was like i think a conversation makes sense there's some things we can do and then when the riots broke out someone tried breaking in my house i'll tell you this someone tried breaking in my house house. I'll tell you this. Someone tried to break into my house. And then they made this really, really hilarious meme where it was like, you know, the Shibas that are all like weak and pathetic.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Yeah. And it was like Tim in 2019. And it was the weak, sad one saying, help. Someone's trying to break into my house. Call 911. And then it was like Tim Pool 2020. And it's like the big ripped dog carrying a bunch of guns. And he's like, you get what you deserve.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So after someone tried breaking in, the cop told me. He's like, I'll paraphrase. He basically said, get a gun. And he said, if it were me, here's what I'd do. So I went to a local police station, and I said, what's the process for New Jersey? And they gave me information that was bad. And then I went online, looked it up, and I got information that was bad. And then I was like, I don't have time for this. Like I'm, I'm working, you know, crazy hours and everything, you know?
Starting point is 00:44:53 So I just lost track of things. Then when the riots kicked up, I was like, I, I have no choice. And the mistake I made was I should have went to the gun shop first. They want to sell me the gun. They need to make sure I can get the paperwork. I think it took me like two months to finally be able to go and pick up the equipment. And, you know, we were talking earlier in the show about Steven Crowder sending me the SIG M400. The reason I couldn't get it for a year, I could have got it sooner, but I couldn't get it because they sent it to New Jersey, which has insane laws, which made it very difficult. The gun had to be modified in several ways before I could pick it up, before they could ship it out to any other store. And so there was a process, and it fell through, and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:45:29 I don't have time to deal with this. It was – they put all these roadblocks in the way to make sure you basically can't do it. Well, now we're basically in West Virginia, and so they just snap their fingers, and here you go. That's what constitutional carry is like. So that was New Jersey you're moving from? Yeah, leaving New Jersey. Yeah, and so you couldn't own the firearm in its current state because of New Jersey law. Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Which makes no sense. Which essentially what you're saying is that New Jersey law says that you are legal if you are incapable and you are illegal if you are capable. Yeah. I mean. Yep. Yep. So that means they don't trust you and that means it's malice. I just think it was funny.
Starting point is 00:46:06 So when we were filming the vlog, and I'm at the gun shop picking up the SIG M400 finally gets shipped in, and one of the guys at the shop, so I do the background check. I do NICS, and they were researching me, so it was a little bit longer, but it was like 15 minutes. And then he says, congratulations. Uncle Sam says you're allowed to have the gun. And I was like, oh, thank you, Uncle Sam, for allowing me to exercise my inalienable right. That's where we're currently at. It's a rifle.
Starting point is 00:46:32 It's crazy because these leftists, there's a lot of ignorant ones. But the people who work for these nonprofits, the people who are writing policy, they know that an AR-15 is one pull the trigger, one bullet comes out. They know. There's no way that they've spent 10, 15, 20 years advocating to ban guns, and they've not actually ever Google searched any of them. They know they're lying. They know they use assault weapon to scare people. Yeah, there's a classic argument that says something like there's no such thing as an
Starting point is 00:47:02 assault weapon. And here's a little known industry secret. Nobody likes no, no, a fully automatic weapon is 100 a hobbyist tool with the exception of very specific military applications if you're not using a belt fed machine gun or a submachine gun like a fully automatic ar-15 has almost no value yeah we've talked about it quite a bit on the show we i think i remember who it was maybe it was jim was it was it jim maybe jim hansen mentioning uh maybe it was maybe it was somebody else uh in vietnam it was spray and pray and so they just waste so much ammo and they're like we can't do this it's ineffective so they wanted to make people use semi-auto it's more you know precise well yeah so you think about a body mechanics like when i'm
Starting point is 00:47:39 every individual pull the trigger you look at go look at like a three gun competition and go look at someone who's really good at it that guy guy shoots really fast. Almost, it almost looks like he's shooting fully automatic. The fact is that he's doing is each with each pull of the trigger, he is making a conscious decision to pull that trigger and put that bullet as best as he can, where he wants it. So if I'm just holding the trigger and holding it and swinging my gun around like a hose, I'm probably not going to hit my target. I think if anybody's played a game, like you've played the division, I played the first going to hit my target. I think if anybody's played a game, like, you ever played The Division? I played the first one for about a week.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Division was awesome. Division 2 was pretty good, but I really liked the first one, and then I stopped playing. I don't play that many video games. But, in that game, it's actually pretty great, because you can get, like, real guns. And I always played, I always use, like, my favorite gun to use in the game was the M1, or M1A or whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Because for that reason, a lot of people I know would like to use, you know, submachine guns or whatever in the game. Literally, it's a video game. It's called The Division. But then it's spray and pray, and you're, like, just hoping your accuracy will be high enough. Whereas the way I'd play is just, like, one, one, one one you know yeah you look at a game like call of duty and your character can take an m4 concept and hold it on a decent circle um for just the whole magazine like that's not really i mean you can do that you technically can but it's just not not not only is it not efficient but it's it's sort of like is it really video games that are driving the culture?
Starting point is 00:49:05 Which is why I cannot wait until one of these big companies comes out and they make a game where you're using the guns like people do in the military. So you're running around with your M4 and it's on single shot. Yeah. Because that's exactly how you're going to do it. And so, yeah, given the whole fully automatic mechanic is a little bit more, I don't know, video game normal. It's Doom, I guess. You can paraphrase halo i just man i remember growing up and i'm watching a movie and you know my dad's sitting
Starting point is 00:49:31 there and my dad always would always you know comment and say things and predict things and then there's i can't remember what movie it was i'm a little kid and then like the bad guy sneaks into the room and then my dad goes who silencer and the guy pulls out a gun he goes yep and like people grow up believing that stuff's real yeah i mean go watch the movie django unchained and in one of the late season or late episode or late scenes of the movie the main character shoots another person at one angle and he flies the other way fly a different direction that's quentin tarrant quentin being awesome yes yes and i. That was funny. We hope to trust that it's Quentin Tarantino making fun of his own, not taking his work too seriously. I remember that scene.
Starting point is 00:50:10 It was great. It's great, right? But now people will watch movies and they will legitimately think that's how it works. And then they ban things based on the movies. Yeah. What is that Gelman amnesia effect where you're reading the news, you read an article that you are an expert in, and you realize it's all bunk. You turn the page, and then you're like, huh? It's the same thing with firearms.
Starting point is 00:50:30 If you're a doctor or a nurse, you know that the nurse TV shows are not really that accurate. So when you watch NCIS, it's not the same. A department of diagnostics. You ever watch House? I did. I saw a couple episodes yeah it was basically i guess the premise of house was like sherlock holmes is a doctor or something and so he gets a mystery i mean people believe this stuff like i was reading a story about how
Starting point is 00:50:57 uh people would go to the doctor with and they would ask the doctor like what's wrong with me i'm sick and when they'd be like well we're not entirely sure we'll give you a scan they'd be like can you send me to diagnostics they'd be like what what be like like dr house they'd be like that's not real that's a tv show yeah there's no like head doctor to just break into your home and steal your your your bath soap to try and figure out if it's got a chemical in it that's what they do in the show like the doctors would literally break into the person's house and then like take their drano and be like, look what we found. This is what's killing them.
Starting point is 00:51:27 You know what, man? I don't know how you solve for that problem because you're allowed to have TV shows. But people believe TV and movies are real too much. Yeah, I would never want to have like an enforcement of accuracy committee, right? right i mean you there's that there's a kind of a trope that goes about in in in the military that some people have lost their jobs because they went to advise uh entertainment and they were too accurate there's there's stories about what's what's the legitimate reason for making suppressors nfa items for those that aren't familiar it's like you gotta file a tax it takes like nine months you get your fingerprints it's very difficult to buy yeah there is a there is a there is a burden entry for owning a suppressor, which is an item that makes it safer to shoot the firearm.
Starting point is 00:52:08 That's just insane. Yeah. What does it do? It protects hearing damage. Now, if you're going to universalize health care and you're going to get more people with hearing damage, okay. So silencers aren't real. The term silencer is just a colloquial term. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And there was a long time when people referred to them as silencer. Right now, people are using the term suppressor more often. And I think some of that is as an attempt to better translate what the object does. They're still loud. They're still loud. The bullet passes or breaks the sound. If the bullet breaks the sound barrier, you're still getting the crack and that's probably that's what's going to hurt the most yeah so yes when i when you shoot a firearm that has a suppressor on you're probably wearing
Starting point is 00:52:52 ear protection as well yeah yeah i've i've uh i've fired a weapon with a suppressor it's still loud the recoil was better and it wasn't as loud but it's like people could hear it probably a mile away i mean if you know what it sounds like yeah you actually know what it sounds like but you're talking about events with people in the riots where someone is launching fireworks okay but someone is shooting a gun and they think it's fireworks well so so in these riots it's it's it's never it's almost never fireworks sometimes people will throw fireworks but uh in my experience it's more often that someone's shooting a gun, and then you get really dumb journalists being like, it sounds like fireworks. There was a tactic in Minneapolis where activists were firing whatever they were, were legitimately firing mortar fireworks at buildings and people. But those are very different booms, right?
Starting point is 00:53:38 They are. They are. You ever see firecrackers? You get the right package. You're like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black hats? Yeah. Is that what they're called? No, those aren't black hats, are they? Maybe. I think they are. You ever see fire... You know firecrackers. Like, you get the right package. You let it go... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black hats? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Is that what they're called? No, those aren't black hats, are they? Maybe. I think they are. Yeah? Yeah. They're like the little red and white ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:51 And you let them go, pop. And I've... And actually, we had some recently. We were... Yeah, we had some recently. We were just popping them off in the parking lot or whatever. But journalists, for some reason, think that people just carry those around with them in cities, especially in, like, you know in crime-ridden areas during riots.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah, you can't buy them in Minneapolis, which means you have to go to a different state to get them. Or it's a gun. Or people are going, pop, pop, pop, pop. And they're like, just fireworks. Just mine. Whatever. It's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Again, their information that's being given to them is bad. Let's get a little apocalyptic, I suppose. So we're talking about guns, the right to keep them bare and all that stuff. Can we just go post-apocalyptic? Post-apocalyptic. We're not there yet. Okay. We got this story from the Daily Mail.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Gas prices climbed to seven-year high of $3.04 a gallon despite Colonial Pipeline reopening after Dark Side hack. All right. So this is what I don't understand. They said it was panic buying. People are just panic buying. You know, and that's why there's no gas in DC and much of these places. And then we found out that the Friday, the hack happened within three hours, they paid the ransom to shut it down. So why did they shut down the pipeline? Why was supply threatened if they paid
Starting point is 00:55:02 the ransom? Did they lie to the government, which resulted in bad information and a panic? Did they disrupt supply, which led to panic and then an actual shortage? Something doesn't add up. This is the kind of stuff that's going to exacerbate inflation. And it's already getting crazy, man. I mean, we went to the restaurant after shooting, and we waited like two hours for food because they had no staff. Wow. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And it was miserable. I mean, I don't want to be mean to the restaurant. They were trying, and I respect them for working like two people on staff for this restaurant because nobody wants to work. Now gas prices are super high. So here's what we were talking about. So we're sitting there. We thought it was going to be 45 minutes. You know, you go in, you order, you get the food, you leave. And then at like two hours, I'm like, okay, we're going to get up and go.
Starting point is 00:55:50 And then the food finally comes out. And I was like, here's what happens. The prices are skyrocketing and people are getting unemployment benefits. They're getting 16 bucks an hour not to work. Now Joe Biden's saying he's going to do the $300 tax credit for, you know, up for every kid. So now families can get like three grand for their kids. So now you got people who just don't want to work. So now you got one line cook at your restaurant. Now you got all these people come in and he's going crazy trying to fill these orders. And eventually he just stops and says for 15 bucks an hour, no way I'm done. Now you got no cook. Now you got no restaurant. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Apocalypse. This kind of shortage is something that my parents have been concerned about for the entire time I've known them. This is something that my grandparents were concerned about. My grandparents were stockpiling in the mountains in New Mexico to make sure that they were safe if and when there was, for example, a trucker strike. They were very concerned about the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think this was around that time. And this is something that I think that modern people don't take seriously anymore. And I think that there is like
Starting point is 00:56:50 this derogatory term. We're called preppers. You don't want to be a prepper. A prepper is some old redneck dude who just is, everybody thinks they're crazy because they think the end of the world is coming. Well, like Tim says, what if it rains? Sometimes, sometimes it rains. I think there's a difference between, you know, a prepper and what we would do, for instance.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Right. But there is like this stigma to just being prepared. And people call it reactionary, which I was telling you earlier that I don't understand. How can you be reactionary when something hasn't happened yet? You're trying to think ahead. Yes. I don't see that as being an issue. Yeah. When did self-sufficiency become a pejorative?
Starting point is 00:57:29 When the rich people want to make sure they can get gas and supplies before you, and then you'll get news outlets saying, we shouldn't report on this because then people will panic. And then what they do is they whisper to their family, make sure you go buy gas right now. Yeah, would that be the same thing as saying get you don't need to wear a mask you don't need to go out and buy one so we can stockpile a bunch of them and now we're gonna make it necessary
Starting point is 00:57:53 so we're gonna we're gonna make sure it hits our warehouse so that we can charge you for it not them that's exactly what i'm saying so when when the Colonial Pipeline stuff happens and they're like, there's no supply shortage. And then we're watching videos of cars lined up in gas stations shutting down. And it's like, what are you talking about? Oh, no, no, no. We meant in terms of the national supply. Yeah, well, no one's asking about that. They're asking about their local gas stations.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Yeah. And meanwhile, these journalists are whispering, the security people are whispering, telling their friends and their family to go stock up while you still can. Yeah. Go buy your toilet paper before it's too late. Yeah. The I got mine philosophy. You know, you can change it. You can ruin the system after I got mine.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Right. You can, as long as I have mine. That is a, I mean, humans are selfish creatures to some extent, right? Oh, for sure. To some extent, yeah. Wild animals, man, especially when panic takes hold. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:49 So now I'm wondering if this is, well, I guess it doesn't matter if it's panic. What matters is prices are going up. There's a global shortage. Now, I love this. What did they say first? There's no inflation problem. Don't worry. A week later, okay, there's inflation.
Starting point is 00:59:00 What should we do about it? Now Bloomberg publishes a story saying there's a global supply shortage of basically everything. So what's happening is a combination of things. You shut down the economy. People stopped working. They leave their jobs. You can't just find people again. Like a steel mill isn't just going to be like, okay, let's just teleport someone here to start making the steel again. A lot of these people left, moved. A lot of people moved out of New York. Half a million people moved out of New York. What are you going to do to fill those jobs? You can't do anything. So now they can't just restart the economy.
Starting point is 00:59:29 The problem is Biden is also just printing money and dishing it out to everybody, firing the money guns. So people don't need to go back to work. If you don't make stuff, there's no stuff. So now these businesses are struggling to get the stuff they need to make new stuff. And then people can't buy it. So what happens? Two people show up at the hot dog stand. and the guy's got one hot dog left. What do you get?
Starting point is 00:59:50 You get a bidding war. I'll give you $5 for it. I'll give you $6, $7, $8, $9, $10, $15. I'm not spending $15 on a hot dog. Now a hot dog costs $15. Everybody's going to be fighting over these materials. And one of the things that we're seeing, according to Bloomberg, is that a lot of businesses
Starting point is 01:00:05 are buying as much raw material as possible and then all of a sudden everything's sold out. They're hoarding it basically. Panic buying. That's ridiculous. That's what they did
Starting point is 01:00:16 and there's a Canadian ad during World War I where they were like do not hoard flour. Have you guys ever seen that? It's like a comic book ad. Ian, what did you just buy? I bought about 250 pounds of flour.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Why? Because I'm not panicking. I'm pretty sure that's panicking. I'm about eight months ahead of the curve. When does it expire? Yeah, like two years, a year and a half, but we can freeze it too. You're going to eat 250 pounds of flour? I think we go through about five pounds a week.
Starting point is 01:00:43 So Ian engages in kneading bread as a stress reliever? Is this what I need to know? He makes a lot of bread. Gluten. Yeah, I made bread, two breads in the last two days. He's quite the man. Ian makes a lot of bread. And then I was pouring maple syrup on it, and then it soaks through the bread, and then you mop it up, and it's like a French toast without having to cook it.
Starting point is 01:01:00 You gotta get off all that sugar, man. Hey. You're the guy who's writing on sugar all the time. According to Vladimir Putin, what you gotta do is learn to cook he was given a talk to a bunch of like college students and they were like what should vlad what should i do as a man a russian man and he's like learn how to cook and they all laugh and like no really what should i do and he was like learn how to cook because when the apocalypse comes putin's and you're and you're eating rabbit learn how to cook it's going to take two hours at the store then it's going to be four hours then it's going to be closed i'm so thankful that my family taught me how to cook. It's going to take two hours at the store. Then it's going to be four hours. Then it's going to be closed.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I'm so thankful that my family taught me how to cook as a kid. Yes. And it was just because I come from a culinary family. Shout out to mom. Speaking of hunting for food, we let Bucko out. He's like an outside cat. He caught a baby rabbit. He brought it for us. And he started eating it on the porch.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And it got blood on the porch. And I'm like, dude, you're getting stains. I'm like, what are you doing? And then he just looked at me and went, meh. And I'm like, okay, dude dude and then he went off and hunting again he's loving it but uh you know it's funny to talk about the cat doing these things but he's got the right idea man i think people need to get back to some of those basic survival skills i'm not saying people should go and eat cicadas out of the ground that's insane but i think it's
Starting point is 01:02:00 important that people learn how to do some basic stuff go camping remember when the boy scouts were all about like i don't know just being a well-rounded person and learning how to be responsible? And now it's just weird cult diversity. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the origin of Boy Scouts is, like, a pretty cool tale of heroism. And now it's nothing but, like, American mediocrity. What is the origin of it? If I'm not mistaken, it was a war veteran, I think from World War
Starting point is 01:02:28 I. I'm pretty sure it was a World War I veteran who basically came back to the United States and wanted to provide a program for young men, young boys to become better people through individual challenges. I love it. Right. So like it's the whole idea of the merit badges is so that the kids can get some sort of the young boys can learn some sort of concept of forward thinking and planning
Starting point is 01:02:51 so i want to get this achievement this is what i have to do to accomplishment i can't just that's cool buy it it's like a video game yeah i mean it is a proto video game yeah very much so proto video well anyway you're mentioning uh something about you know don't hoard flour yeah what was that was that cut you off oh uh in in canada in world war one they had like national like do not hoard flour it's a felony i don't know if it was what they called it but they would come to your house and arrest you and there's a picture of cops like walking by the house and people inside hiding their flour that sounds communist because as the as the food starts to disappear they're going to tell you, don't hoard.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I mean, does anybody else want to laugh at that? A command economy, which is always supposed to eliminate scarcity, automatically, immediately produces scarcity. These people are dumb. I mean, it's a self-correcting problem, though. It's like, okay, let the command economy do the thing, and we're going to go be self-sufficient over here.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Well, hold on. I hear you, but what, 100 million dead? I'm not saying it's not a tragedy. It's terrible. Yeah, I mean, these communist countries did technically correct themselves by collapsing into themselves. Yes. Failing. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:55 But they were able to just murder their way into maintaining power for a century. Because the people of capacity, whether it's moral or capability, either left the country or were killed. Yeah, I mean, that's the big problem. Could you imagine an able-bodied man of good moral standing and principle living in an urban center and then freaking
Starting point is 01:04:16 out because of riots and being, I don't want to live here, and then leaving? Or somebody who maybe lives in an area like that planning on leaving? Are you saying I'm able-bodied? I'm talking about me and you, actually. I'm joking. I'm joking. Because we were in the Philly area and I was like,
Starting point is 01:04:27 we shouldn't be here. But my, you know, all right, making fun of myself, over with. What I think when we leave these areas, we voted. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:38 And we advocated. And we talked. And the community votes for self-immolation. And I don't want to be a part of that. Yeah, I'm not interested in saving the city. It's that. But that's the whole like that's when you look at the Second Amendment, there's two ways that it's often interpreted from the positive side.
Starting point is 01:04:55 So we're going to make the assumption that those who are arguing for gun control either disdain or don't care about the Second Amendment. But now you have the Second Amendment people who defended on sort sort of tribalism it's a little bit more political and then you have people who understand the principle of it so for me you know you think about it simply the fact that people over 200 years ago wrote on a piece of paper the second you know the right right it's a right known bear arms whatever the second amendment the fact that they put that on paper doesn't really mean anything for me. What it really means, because that paper is not going to defend me against a malicious actor. The fact is that that paper is there to inform the American people that it's like it is your God-given right.
Starting point is 01:05:35 It is a human right, not a civil right, to own a firearm. Yep. It's a human right. And so that sounds like it sounds sort of, well, you know, the term human right is thrown around a lot today. Why is it a human right? The right to self-defense is something that you have because you're a human. Whether or not you believe it's because of Imago Dei and you're coming from the Christian heritage or you think about human equality, if you believe in human equality at all, you would never in any way argue for one group of people to go to another group of people and disarm them because now they're not equal. So since when does the Second Amendment not include swords?
Starting point is 01:06:11 I mean, I know there are places where you can't own swords. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting when you look at some states where they ban basically every version of a weapon in any capacity except for guns because Second Amendment. And I'm like, it says to keep in bare arms. Yeah. Like there's places where you can't own places where you cannot carry brass knuckles, but you can carry a six-shooter.
Starting point is 01:06:29 I think that's ridiculous. As if the founding fathers at that time only used muskets. Yeah. They had tons of weapons. They had knives. They had bows and arrows. Big knives. Cannons.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Well, we have the American Bowie knife. It's a classic example. I think one of the biggest mistakes that has been made over the past 100 plus years or whatever is that even 2A advocates have fallen into the trap of arguing only on behalf of guns. As if the founding fathers literally only had muzzle-loading muskets and nothing else. I'm pretty sure they said keep in bare arms. They carried knives with them. And they probably didn't consider someone would come and take them away. Now you get states that are like, your knives are gone, your batons are gone.
Starting point is 01:07:08 You can't carry a baseball bat unless you also have a baseball and can prove you're going to a baseball game. You can't carry a sock full of quarters. Can't do that. But a gun, okay. Second Amendment. Possession is considered intent. Of what? Baseball bat or sock full of quarters?
Starting point is 01:07:23 You owning a firearm is perceived as you wanting to do violence on somebody. I'm just saying I think Second Amendment includes any weapon. I agree with you, absolutely. But there's tons of places that have banned swords. Yeah. Okay, let's not say they've banned swords. They've infringed upon your human rights. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Let's not say that they've banned swords. They haven't banned swords. They are saying that we will do violence against you if you own something that can do violence. upon your human rights. Yeah, absolutely. Let's not say that they've banned swords. They haven't banned swords. They are saying that we will do violence against you if you own something that can do violence. So in that capacity, I'm just saying it's great that they built this shield in written word that protected us for a good couple hundred years. We'd be worse off without the Constitution, no doubt. But at this point, imagine, look at it this way.
Starting point is 01:08:06 There is a great giant dragon beast that is government authoritarianism, and it's been breathing fire on the noble hero who's holding up the Constitution as a shield. Eventually that shield starts burning through, and long enough period of time of sustained government authoritarianism, and we start losing our rights. Interestingly, we have this Supreme Court case. So SCOTUS rules police cannot search homes without warrants in the name of community caretaking. This is unanimous.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Nine to zero. So that's promising. Even the liberal justices were like, a cop can't go into your house without a warrant and take all your guns because they think you're ill or something. It's a good sign. But it's crazy to me that the argument is getting close to the red flag law stuff. And a lot of people, I guess right now, are like, oh, of course they can't without a warrant. But what they've been actively trying to do is get a warrant claiming that you're unwell and then violating your rights.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Yeah. Disarming you through a subversive means. And it's in I think it's according to the Geneva Convention, disarming a population is considered an act of war. Wow. As it should be. I think I believe that somewhere it's either either that or it's Karl von Clausewitz, but we haven't had a von Clausewitz in a while. So you might know this, but what percentage of the time is a genocide preceded by removing guns from the general population? Because I was able to come up with more than one example to send to someone I was arguing with. Yeah, I wouldn't say it's 100%, but it's basically 100%.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah. I mean, it's because they are one in the same. And this is how you think about tyranny. So we often think, or the thing is oftentimes said something like, well, if you disarm a population, then you will have genocide. Or then you'll have some sort of massive, you know, massive tragedy, horrible authoritarian argument. And so we use it as this argument of like the one begets the other i don't think that's the right way to think about it the rather is the act of the act of um because that i'm sorry i don't think it's the right way to think about it because it
Starting point is 01:10:17 creates an opportunity for someone to say we won't do it this time you know we won't okay we'll take away your guns but we won't genocide you this time. Like that's you're essentially strong, holding on the you're holding your entirety of your existence and your hope on the fact that they won't do something. Whereas what I would I think the better way to think about it is the act of taking the firearms away from somebody is wrong in the exact same way as it is to target a population in that way. Well, one doesn't beget the other. They are. They fall in the same vein. way as it is to target a population in that way. Well, one doesn't beget the other. They fall in the same vein. You need to understand that if the Earth is to join the Galactic Federation, we can't have a bunch of crazies with guns who are going to shoot the aliens when they show up. So they got to disarm us for the sake of the Galactic Federation, right?
Starting point is 01:10:58 Your condescension is coming through. No, I'm just being ridiculous. No, I'm just kidding. What it is, it's a bunch of elites who would lie to the general public to protect themselves
Starting point is 01:11:09 and their family. They would tell you there's no gas shortage so they can go buy gas before you can. They would tell you that everything's fine. There's tons of toilet paper
Starting point is 01:11:16 so they can buy it up before you can. They would buy a bunch of stock while serving in Congress and then pass regulations on these companies which benefit their stock decisions, their trading decisions. And they would come out and say, you can't own weapons because safety.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Now, for me, I've got five armed guards around me at all times paid for by your tax dollars. Yeah, and we saw this last year. The exact same people that were arguing to defund the police spent millions of dollars making sure they had very armed people protecting their house and we and and it's like and you can't look at that and say oh that's funny you should look at that and go like appalled by that the even the people who voted for we we do man i mean the people who watch a show like this um probably most conservatives we we are appalled by that but there is a large faction in this country of extremely ignorant tribal individuals who have no idea what's going on.
Starting point is 01:12:11 I posted this on Facebook. I said, what happened to all those people who used to come in my mentions and just like promote Joe Biden and rag about Trump? They're all gone. All gone. You know why? Because they never cared about Biden. Because you, what, bought guns? Now you're a bad conservative man no back during the election all of these people i knew who cared nothing for
Starting point is 01:12:29 politics never did all of a sudden we're like oh biden we had to vote for biden we must do it and then biden gets elected and they're gone they no longer care about trump they don't longer care about biden they don't care about politics now they post about stupid nonsense and i'm like i thought what about all those things you were? So what happens is these people now have voted for a man who is by like every objective metric failing. And I love these op-eds where they're like, Biden's had the best hundred days of any president ever. And I'm like, yeah, if your head's in the toilet, you're not paying attention. But a lot of people, a lot of these people just walked away anyway. So now things are getting worse. And too many of these people vote for trash laws and leave us worse off for it.
Starting point is 01:13:07 I don't know how you solve for that unless, like, Starship Troopers or whatever. I don't know. In order to vote, you must approve ownership of a firearm? Yeah. I mean, then you'd at least have skin in the game. It's meant to be facetious, but it does get the point across. Mandatory gun ownership? I mean, we don't – the problem with containing something, a vote like this,
Starting point is 01:13:27 it's not a very complicated problem. It's that who gets to choose, right? This is essentially the question of all power like this. Thank you. Who gets to choose, right? That's the question. So if you make it, you know, one of the arguments that comes up is something like we don't want people who are mentally,
Starting point is 01:13:44 thankfully for the Supreme supreme court case that you're talking about we don't want we want to make sure at least to some extent people of certain mental issues don't own firearms right we kind of want to there's this sort of it's let's take the question honestly and look at it that way yes that's true who gets to choose big question it's it's it is an interesting point because i've brought up uh several times the second amendment doesn't say the right to keep in bare arms should not be infringed unless you're mentally ill. Yeah, I know. And it is a problem.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Like it is a legitimate mental problem. Or you say like you were arguing about if you do the time, if you pay your debt to society, you should have your rights restored. So a good point was made to me, though, that the Constitution does allow for rights to be restricted uh after after or only through due process only through due process so and mental deficiency i believe through due process then all right i understand that argument that makes sense to me yeah so if if you know i own a bunch of guns and then there's a claim filed against my mental health and we go and there's a legal process and then after determining i'm unwell, then they come and take everything. That makes sense to me.
Starting point is 01:14:47 I'm still worried about it because mental health is not objective. It's an ambiguous category. In some ways, it is viewed as an ambiguous category. Oh, yeah. So some guy can just be like, I was looking at Ian and he is crazy. My professional experience is that he is crazy and dangerous.
Starting point is 01:15:04 And then the judge is like, I agree. Seize his guns. Anyone that's got like a medical marijuana card for stress or any kind of psychological issue could then be deemed like unwell and unfit to hold a gun. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. You can't buy a gun if you smoke pot, right? Well, you're not supposed to. So can and should are different questions.
Starting point is 01:15:23 There is a question on the 4473 that asks, are you currently or are you consuming illegal substances? And the 4473 is a federal document. Straight up, if you smoke pot, you can't buy a gun. So technically speaking, you are committing a very big crime if you are currently consuming marijuana. Not like smoking it at the gun shop. I mean, that's... No, but not technically literally your federal government literally says you are committing crime if you consume these things hunter biden did it yeah
Starting point is 01:15:50 it's freaking crazy man schedule one narcotic marijuana that makes no sense right yeah there's a there's a parallel that's kind of coming through in in the world and this is kind of begging the question but there's a joke who won the war on drugs weed won the war on drugs right it's kind of a humor and how did weed win the war on drugs mass non-compliance yeah which was is you could also look at that in a sort of philosophical sense it was self-reliance well the government's not going to let me have my weed so i'm going to get it myself the government's not going to allow me to protect my family so i'm'm going to figure it out myself. It's time to end the war on guns. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah. But how do you do it? And for us, we're doing it through culture. We're doing it through going out and doing things. We have our publications. And what do we get for it? We get pulled off of newsstands. Really?
Starting point is 01:16:37 Yep. We've had our magazine. Anything gun-related has been pulled off of newsstands. No one talked about it. You didn't see a giant New York Times post. When Google bans Gundam Wing because it's got gun in the name, you know they really don't like guns. But how are we being self-reliant? Here's a good example. If you own a gun store, give us a call.
Starting point is 01:16:54 We'll stock it on your shelf, right? There you go. If you own a gun store, if you own an FFL, you can get a hold of us. You can get a hold of us through our website, and we have a program to stock our magazines because we've got four different magazines. Concealment, which is urban, smaller firearms, all about safety, concealed carry, making sure you're doing things the right way, being good at it. And then you've got Recoil, which is the main magazine.
Starting point is 01:17:18 This is sort of the big news gun industry things. Maybe someone came out with something really innovative. There's an advocate. We did Monge Touré. Yeah, he's got. things maybe it's someone came out with something really innovative or you know we there's a there's an advocate we did um monster a we put in you know dude so he's you know monster is doing something great there's um chris chang is doing something great um with aapi go so we are grabbing we have those two magazines then we have off grid which is much more focused on skills survival um and it has and and i think of it the advantage that off-grid has it has a lot of things about doing right so it's not just about gear because a lot of a lot of
Starting point is 01:17:52 survival a lot of the negativity that comes from survivalist groups or preppers is they're just about buying stuff it's the classic you know heavily unfit person with a bunch of stuff is not going to survive the apocalypse right yeah and then the last one we have is carnivore which is all about high-end uh field of table meat consumption meat consumption yep so i i i uh loathe to think about what's going to happen to these cities in the event that there's like an actual shutdown the water shuts off people are going to start dying of dehydration. They'll be drinking blood in a day. Yeah, you'll have, I mean, historically speaking,
Starting point is 01:18:28 you'll have a very short period of very, very ugly violence, and then you'll have a very long period of probable starvation. People fleeing like crazy in random directions. Well, and the solution is actually in itself. And I think the solution to this one is not just buying a bunch of stuff. It's actually community. I mean, the term community is thrown around a lot publicly right now, but again, the antidote to this classic idea of a guy in a basement
Starting point is 01:18:53 with a bunch of bullets and a bunch of food is that he's going to die alone. What is prison? It is living in a box for 30 years. It's taking your life away. Life is time. So survival, real survival, when we're talking about things like this, um, is actually 100% based on community, social interaction with people who you actually trust that you've been a little, you've been, you've been, you can, you can have them to protect you from making mistakes that you would otherwise not know. Right? So someone who knows water, someone who knows ecology,
Starting point is 01:19:26 someone who knows, hey, don't eat those plants. That's a simple form of it. A more complicated one is you're desperate, we know each other, we take care of each other. We're not waiting for the government to come and save us. It's actually quite remarkable how people in cities mostly, but basically everybody is extremely detached from the basic requirements of survival. Yeah, I mean Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Yeah. It's not an ultimatum, but... People, you take a person in the city and you put them in the woods, it's just not going to go well. Sure, because they have no reason to be adapted to the woods. If you live in an urban environment your whole life, you're never going to need to adapt the abilities to do that. It's a luxury. You will need to adapt the abilities to do that it's a it's a luxury you will need to adapt the abilities it's likely at some point in your life you will need to understand basic survival even if you live in a city it's just that in their immediate they don't they've that life has been kind to them to the extent that they've never been thrust in a situation like that sure that's absolutely true
Starting point is 01:20:22 but we i still want to return to the idea like self-sufficiency is a good thing, right? So it's not, you know, when you have a neighborhood, like say, you know, you live in a condo and you know your neighbors, it's not a bad thing to know your neighbors and being like, oh, I know such and such is a diabetic and I can help take care of them this way. It doesn't mean you're kicking down their doors and saying, here, take the insulin.
Starting point is 01:20:47 Right. But it's good. People don't realize how brutal it'll get if there's actual power outages or rolling blackouts even, let alone if the water shuts off or the electricity goes out for an extended period of time. People who are diabetic, you've got to refrigerate that insulin. That's a huge problem for just storms going out. They've got to have generators usually to make sure the fridges keep running.
Starting point is 01:21:07 But there's a lot of other things too. People's medications will spoil. If you've got antibiotics in the fridge, they're gone. Vaccines go bad very, very quickly without electricity. So, hey, bring it on, Greta Thunberg. Let's turn off all the fossil fuel power plants and then see how long humans last because they will start tearing each other's throats out as it gets bad. Or they'll just build a pipeline and not tell you about it.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Pipeline? A pipeline, yeah. You know, if you tell people they can't have something and they need it, they'll figure out a way. Look, one of the big themes of this is that they're going to tell you, oh, no, don't go buy this. Then they go rush out and buy it. Sure. They're coming out saying, like, oh, the water is going to rise 20 feet. I'll take that beachfront condo on Miami Beach.
Starting point is 01:21:46 How much is that? Water's rising? No, I don't care about that. No, sure. Ammunition prices are high right now. So if you're hoarding ammunition, it's kind of rude. But the other thing about it, too, is how would you just take seriously what you think you need? It's not more.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Panic buying is a hard thing to define. And panic buying is what people do when they feel like they're insufficient with what they have. It's interesting. I mean, Ian bought a ridiculous amount of flour for two years. Yes. Yeah, I was surprised it was available because last July it wasn't. You could get four, maybe four bags of flour. So why buy so much flour?
Starting point is 01:22:21 You know, who knows what's coming in two months? I like to look ahead and rest easy. See, that's the thing. You know, hoarding, is it someone being prepared or is it someone panicking? Yeah, there is a good question to be said there. Or are you just a good businessman and you know you can buy better in bulk and you're going to be able to store it and are you being proactive? After the apocalypse, all the neighbors are going to be like, bread,
Starting point is 01:22:44 and Ian's going to be like, I have the bread. And he's going to like rip it and throw it to people. Bread for bullets. Bread for water, dude. Feed the masses. I don't think anyone would trade you bullets for bread. They only need one. I'll let them go hunt and I'll keep them healthy when they come home.
Starting point is 01:22:58 No, you don't understand. They only need one. Oh, well, that's a good point. You grossly overestimate the accuracy of most people. That's fair. That's fair. Let's assume it's point blank. They don't need any, actually.
Starting point is 01:23:10 They just need the weapon. Then most people would just capitulate, just take whatever you want, leave me alone, take my flour, take my bread. Yeah, fire me. Violence is expensive. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's costly. To go do violence on someone is expensive i mean we're not an apocalypse though it still is right so let's go let's take the metaphorical
Starting point is 01:23:30 um the metaphorical post-apocalyptic apocalypse situation you have your little tribe and they have their little tribe for you to go attack their tribe to try to take their stuff you have to willingly acknowledge that if you lose it's final yeah. Yeah. Right? Or it's final. It's extremely costly. Not just that, but if I go to Ian and I say, Ian, make me bread. And then Ian's like, in exchange for what? And I say, I'll trade you something. Then Ian's skill and value as a human being contributes to the production of bread.
Starting point is 01:24:01 If you just go and take the flour, all right, well, now you've got to make the bread. Yeah. So there's a cost you lose out. Trade is probably safer and easier for everybody. Sometimes trade just doesn't work, though, because a starving person might not have anything to trade with. A lot of times it's the language barrier. Fortunately, we have that going for us in the U.S.
Starting point is 01:24:17 because it's easy to communicate relatively. You know, we don't, long-range communications with the power grid down would be a little bit more complex. Like, how do you tell them that you're not a danger without getting close? That might be a challenge. You can kind of signal it. You've got to create a call.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I like ham radios. Bird calls. Maybe like a... We can go back to classic bird zones. I will lose at every time. They'll just be like, why is that man sounding like a chicken? But are we – is this paranoia? I mean are we just – we're talking about all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:50 We're seeing the news. We're seeing gas prices and we're like, oh, it's the end. But maybe nothing happens. I got this Samantha Bee on the brain thing. I watched some Samantha Bee the other day just to delve into the depths of it. You get out of here. It was dark. You get out.
Starting point is 01:25:01 You don't watch. They made a video like just do something about guns and it was all these celebrities. They made a video like, just do something about guns. And it was all these celebrities being like, just do something. Just do something about guns. And they don't know what they're asking for. This is what really bothers me. Literally don't. It dawned on me tonight is the vagueness of it.
Starting point is 01:25:17 It's not like, please ban this aspect of this thing. They said do something, right? Yeah, they're so vague. Okay, okay. Here's what I propose. Repeal the NFA. Right. All right. You got me. I will do propose. Repeal the NFA. Right. All right, you got me.
Starting point is 01:25:26 I will do something. Repeal all gun laws and I'll go buy a gun. Sure. Yeah, you know, everyone who owns a gun gets to vote free guns for everybody. Yes. I don't. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I do not.
Starting point is 01:25:39 I do not. That's a little light. I think mandatory guns for everybody. Okay. You have to. When you sign up for the Selective Service. If you don't have an M3 Carl Gustav, holla. They want you to sign up for the Selective Service.
Starting point is 01:25:52 You should also be required to go in, fill out the form, drop it, and be handed one AR and one handgun. Yes. Or a rifle and a gun and whatever they have available. Some, like, standard issue U.S. government garbage weapon. It works, right? I mean, people like to say the Swiss did it right, but we're talking about very different countries. Yes. Swiss, I mean, there is a sense of mandatory firearms ownership and mandatory kind of – it's not exactly that.
Starting point is 01:26:17 But the Swiss are oftentimes used as an example because everyone owns guns. Functionally, everyone owns guns. But Switzerland also stays out of, you know, a mountainous country. Yeah, but you're also looking at, like, you can make another argument, something like Japan has no firearms and they have very little firearms violence. They're also an ethno, like,
Starting point is 01:26:36 a very, they have their... It's an ethno state. Ethno state, right? Yeah, like, they don't allow immigrants. It's crazy. They do. It's very, very small. Right, right, right. It's, like, extremely restrictive. Yeah, Switzerland is also small also small sorry and don't they also require military service in switzerland i wanted to say that's correct i'm not sure i don't want to i don't want to say something that i can't i don't remember i don't know fully well i also look at israel because they have a similarly small population everyone there for the most part is armed and everyone is required to serve in the
Starting point is 01:27:03 military and i don't know what their gun stats are like but it's probably not bad and they're constantly under threat right exactly again all these things are multi-faceted arguments but you take the example of the samantha b thing right just do something you want to look at what gun control is it's celebration before success we we you know right because no one ever says hey we establish these new laws look what the effects are. We say, just do something. Yay, we put this in place. Never heard from again. Here's what we need to focus on.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Right now, when people complain about government and guns, it's about restrictions. We need to change it. So I propose the creation of the Department of Gun Services. So when you're 16, you have to go in for your manual gun from the – I'm sorry, mandatory gun from the government. And the complaints about guns and government should be the lines take too long. I had to go to the DGS to get an AR-15, and I had to wait 20 minutes. 20 minutes for this gun. It's ridiculous, huh?
Starting point is 01:27:57 When I was a kid, it was 10 minutes. You're in, you're out. You've got your gun, your box of ammo. These bureaucrats, man, I tell you. Now serving. Yeah. Now serving at aisle four. The DMV adds like another letter.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Yes. 37 Q. Oh, there is conscription in Switzerland, by the way. There is conscription. Okay. Yeah. That's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:16 And then for your DM or DG. Department of Gun Service. Yes. I like this. Yeah. Department of Gun Service. Yeah. So not everyone knows how to use a manual.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Not everyone knows how to use a manual not everyone knows how to use a stick shift so now we have to just give them all automatics yeah there you go well you know some people don't have this this the strength so there's a variety of options no you'd get some garbage government stock crap you know you're not going to get the best of the best but hey hey hey you know yeah mandatory gun Mandatory firearms ownership would be an interesting example. You go in and you have like a little book explaining like basic gun operations and you do like a 1 through 10, check, check, check. And the guy reviews it and he's like, all right, here's your gun
Starting point is 01:28:55 and you can choose between the handgun we have over here and fill out the forms and then they hand it to you and you leave and you walk out. That terrifies me. Why? I don't know. Because I don't know enough about guns. Do you want to know why i do the analogy of the department of gun services yes when you go to the dmv and there's like cars everywhere right and there's a lot of people who are student drivers do you like start sweating and no fear that someone's gonna hit you good point when you cross a busy street when you're jaywalking are
Starting point is 01:29:23 you like there's cars and they could hit me at any moment? Not really. I see people with guns all the time and I just don't even think about it. Because people don't typically just run you over or shoot you or beat you. A guy could pick up a rock off the ground and hit you with it. You know? It just doesn't happen. Sometimes it does.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Sometimes they can use guns. I understand when the left are like, yeah, but with a gun they're extremely destructive and violent. I like it's true but people also make bombs people do a lot of things and so you shouldn't take away someone's right to self-defense because you're concerned and you don't want to be responsible for yourself i just don't see that as an appropriate argument i understand the fear but i cross busy streets all the time and i've never i don't get hit by cars you know if you live in chicago or new y.A., you're jaywalking everywhere. And sometimes the cops yell at you, and it's stupid.
Starting point is 01:30:11 And for the most part, you'll just see the cars. I mean, some people will just walk and ignore the cars. You know why? The cars will break. This is crazy. The cars will actually stop to avoid hitting you. So if you were at the Department of Gun Services and someone walked out with a weapon
Starting point is 01:30:27 and they were like, let's say there was a range. If you walk onto this is true, if you're on a gun range and you step onto the range, they scream and shut everything down. They don't want you to get hurt. Or if you're at a range and you turn around and you're pointing at someone, they'll tackle you.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Normal people are trying to be safe and don't want you to get hurt, whether it's a car or a gun or whatever. Or if you're at a range and you turn around and you're pointing at someone, they'll tackle you. Yes. Normal people are trying to be safe and don't want you to get hurt, whether it's a car or a gun or whatever. So gun services, they hand you the gun in a locked box, and then you have to carry it home in a locked box? Why? I don't know. Not so you don't freak people out.
Starting point is 01:30:57 What? When there's like 30 people in the waiting room. I'm not freaked out when I see a guy in a Hummer driving down the street. It's another culture. You just got to get people comfortable with it one day at a time. Archer Avenue on the side of Chicago and you got big trucks and tractor trailers or whatever and it's like you just run across the street. I'm not like, oh no, the guy's going to hit me. Dude, people in my neighborhood, because we have the freight trains where you're always getting stuck by trains by midway.
Starting point is 01:31:21 It's annoying. The kids in my neighborhood would run alongside the train and jump on it. Could you imagine if there was a guy and he had like a hit was like riding around on a car with a Gatling gun and you ran and jumped on his car and we're like holding his gun. That'd be ridiculous. That'd be insane. And that's a problem. People would like in the, in Chicago, jump on this range. Don't do it. It's really, really, really dangerous, but people aren't scared. They're the opposite of scared. They're brazen. So if somebody walked out with a weapon, people aren't going to care. It's the weirdest thing to me that in new york you go to grand central and there's like cops in like full tactical gear with rifles people aren't freaking
Starting point is 01:31:53 out like a cop's going to shoot anybody i think ian has a point because when cars were brand new people were terrified of them people were scared to go in them people were scared to get hit by them so there maybe there should be like a transitory time where we're like accommodating people to everybody having a gun. And there was a time when they didn't have seatbelts. They didn't know. They were still learning the danger of it all. I don't know what the traffic laws were like
Starting point is 01:32:15 in the beginning. Probably they didn't have traffic lights at first. Yeah, so in this ideal world where everyone is required to have a gun, it might require a little bit of adaptation i think all right fine whatever but let's do super chats my friends if you have not done this smash that like button and take the url from this youtube video and just share it across all social media to help out the show and go to timcast.com become a member because we will have a bonus
Starting point is 01:32:39 segment coming up later today at the website which you definitely do not want to miss big news from the government. It gets real creepy. We'll talk about it later. But for now, we'll do super chats. The $1 one-liner says, Hey, Tim, nice promotion of Iceland. I can see the brochures.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Come to Iceland. There's no ice. Enjoy the volcanoes. It smells like farts. That's all true. Have you been there? Yes. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:33:00 So I went to Iceland. There was no ice. And when I was driving from Reykjavik to the blue water place, then it's all gray rock, and it smells like farts. Volcanic rock? Yeah, it smells like farts. Sulfur. A lot of sulfur.
Starting point is 01:33:19 So what's the blue? There's a blue water place where the water is blue? Something like that. It's really cool, but it was really hard. We couldn't get in because it was like booked up like crazy. Did it used to be ice? Like did the Vikings call it – I mean there's ice.
Starting point is 01:33:31 I went to this really cool place. It was cold and it was just like this massive lake. It's beautiful, man. It's an awesome place. Pleasures. I heard they called it Iceland like the Vikings because they wanted people not to go there because they wanted to keep it for themselves. So they told everyone it's just an ice hell and no one was apparently a like garbage hole until they discovered geothermal energy
Starting point is 01:33:50 and everybody was just it was like mining coal or something and they're like we got all this volcanic activity we could do geothermal and now they live like kings wow now abundance of energy you know in in response to our conversation earlier about what we're educated by everything i know about the the the island of of Iceland is from the TV show Vikings. There you go. I know nothing. 21st century. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:11 And then there was the secret life of Walter Mitty. Yes, also there. K.W. Ross says, Hey, Tim, I heard they were putting a 40% tax in taxes on Bitcoin for coins sold and wondered if anyone knew anything about this. Joe Biden has proposed a capital gains tax of like 39.7%. So yes, that would apply to your Bitcoin. Massive tax.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Massive tax. Wow. Maybe it's because of Bitcoin. Kyle Buchanan says, HVAC tech here. I tried ordering an outside unit today. The warehouse said they had zero and won't have any for 60 days. I doubt they will have any in 60 days either. The one free man says low gun regulations equals herd immunity for violent crime.
Starting point is 01:34:47 You don't have to carry, but you benefit from those around you being armed the same way an unvaccinated person would benefit from those around them being vaccinated. Hey, there you go. Interesting. Crime herd immunity. Plasma says I bought into Bitcoin at 32 K and nearly went net loss but i am now taking advantage of elon musk's yeah tweets and buying more getting ready for the halving in two years when bitcoin will go to the moon and back yeah so the halving will result in like bitcoin doubling or more uh okay i can't read the name here but this guy says it's a good thing crowder has made plenty of political connections over the years hopefully
Starting point is 01:35:23 they'll vouch for him. Yeah. Josh else has question for forest. Why don't gun companies name their weapons in a way that you don't have to be a nerd to understand? I own a XD mod to why? How do they choose their naming? That
Starting point is 01:35:40 is a question that I actually don't know how to answer because everyone does it differently. But it stems out of kind of military mentality of like it's essentially a – what do you call it? It's easy nomenclature. It's an M3 Carl Gustav. We call it a Carl G colloquially, but the M3 is so that I can distinguish it, the M16 from the N4. So a lot of companies use these names, these letter combinations to achieve that end. Shorthand.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Right on. It's all shorthand. And, I mean, there's other ways that you can do it. So you could look at like a Ruger Blackhawk. It's a revolver. It's not the BK17. Usually the number is affiliated with something to do, not with the caliber, but it all has different ways of doing it. And I think it's really just because it's trendy yeah right it's just how we
Starting point is 01:36:29 chose to do it so what are the what are the caliber numbers mean because like a 22 versus like a 223 dramatically different round you know yeah the caliber typically refers to the size of the projectile it typically refers to the size of the projectile but now you're looking at so shotguns being different theirs is every it's it's all referencing the size of the projectile. It typically refers to the size of the projectile, but now you're looking at, so shotguns being different, theirs is, it's all referencing the size of the projectile is pretty much what it is. Is it the width of the projectile or the length? It should be
Starting point is 01:36:53 the circumference or the diameter. Alright, we got Honey in Absinthe says, it is my boo thangs 30th birthday today. Will you wish Vincent a happy birthday? We love your show. Also, let me paint a mural in your house, please. Send us an email to spin the UFO at gmail.com.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Yes. And happy birthday, Vincent. Yeah. Happy birthday, Vincent. I'm willing to bet it's not going in my house. Alex Oakley says, I wanted a super chat to say that USD is officially dying. I started a side job over the weekend where I was asked if I wanted to be paid in USD, Bitcoin, or half and half. Wow. That's excellent.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Not like the cream product. You chose Bitcoin, right? Please, God. Tell me you chose Bitcoin. Half and half. Like half US. Oh, I thought you meant like the half and half cream. I did too.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I was like, wait, what? I'm a literal kind of guy. That's my problem. I was confused. So if I strengthen my weakness. There you go. I'm a literal kind of guy. That's my problem. I was confused. So my strength and my weakness. There you go. I too am a coffee snob. Beginning paid in buckets of cream.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Yes. Yes. I got all this cream. What am I going to do? Just drink it, I guess. The grocery store was out. It's good for you. Eli M. says,
Starting point is 01:37:57 Tim, could you call Crowder on air right now and get him to summarize what has happened and his way forward? No. That would be really awesome, though. Maybe. Maybe. I couldn't do that.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Nah. I mean, it probably would be funny. I'm sure he'd be cool with it, but it just can't. Could you imagine getting a call and you're on the air and you're like, oh, wait, what's going on? Wait, no, I'm not. Some people might just be like, no. Part of his strike is that he's not supposed to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:38:21 Wouldn't you get into it? No, I could interview him. Oh, cool. Yeah, we had Alex Jones on. He's a fan. But they still, you know. They'll be paying attention. Jennifer Reap says,
Starting point is 01:38:31 Great show and guest as always. And got to shout out my alma mater, Sam Houston State, for winning the national championship yesterday. Eat them up, cats. Hey, there you go. Someone you may know says, Hashtag free Crowder.
Starting point is 01:38:43 There you go. Cy Coder says, hey there you go someone you may know says hashtag free crowder there you go cy coder says walmart is only allowing vac employees not to wear masks well i'm not vac and when i get back from break i'm not wearing a mask i might get fired but they're going to get sued if they do hope i win i mean how do they tell if people are or aren't i mean i don't know how they i think i think they'll ignore you i or aren't? I mean, I don't know how they... I think they'll ignore you. I don't think they'll say anything. I don't know. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:39:08 HitsVape says, I work at Best Buy. They just announced today that if employees prove they've gotten the vaccine, you don't have to wear a mask. I've had the virus. Didn't do much at all to me. Now I feel forced to, so I can take off the mask. Yeah, well, talk to your doctor. Zanzibar says, I just joined Timcast.com. Now, where do I go to suggest Magnus Penvidya get a seat for a show?
Starting point is 01:39:31 Pro-liberty and bottom unity advocate, what the boogaloo really is. Well, he just did. Carter Joe says, Tim, have Destiny on to discuss the infrastructure bill and voting bills. And he'd like talking about moral frameworks. Definitely, Destiny was an excellent guest we we when destiny was here we actually hung out for like an hour just talking about politics and he's a cool dude disagree with him that's about it but i disagree with a lot of people so you know i think there's too much like fear of the other i think i think it was great to have him out here fun guy um i'm sure people don't like him for a
Starting point is 01:40:05 lot of reasons though joshua ryman says what if what used to be a traffic stop that caught a kidnapper with someone in their trunk it's a pass by yeah well there's that too rylo says civilian traffic brigade don't you dare show support for trump or appear at all conservative you're going to get bombarded with tickets and the state will come after you. You see, there you go. Brown Bear says, Tim, when are you going to have shoe on head on your show? When she accepts the invitation
Starting point is 01:40:31 and decides to come on the show. Dolly Lance says, how can you continuously assume that the unarmed civilian won't be violent themselves? That's a good point. Unarmed civilian traffic guy might be like, I got a gun.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Yeah, how does that work? Is it a cop? Because a cop, we were trying to figure that out earlier. Like a cop is a civilian according to military. No, no, no, no, no. This new policy is like
Starting point is 01:40:52 you in a car. What the heck? Yeah. It's a contradiction of terms because you're hired by the state. Who are you hired by? Right. Not an outside group.
Starting point is 01:41:01 I mean, they give you a little yellow light to stick on top of your car yeah the codification like the codification of law has a purpose and it's so that we have a rule rules by which we understand what we do and don't do it's not the greatest tragedy in the american concept of law is that we have turned law into a way to make citizens into servants instead of realizing that the purpose of law is to limit the government it is to limit one group of citizens from violating the rights
Starting point is 01:41:31 of another group of citizens it's not to make you safe it's not to make you happy it's not to make you wealthy the purpose of law is so that the people can the one group of people human beings with the same rights as you cannot use the power of the state to violate your rights yeah i don't like paid bail because if the rich people oh yeah it's meaningless to them they just buy their way out in in chicago people illegally park at wrigley field because they're like a hundred dollar ticket it's cheaper than buying a parking space wow yeah that's what i'm talking about all right andrew holker says i fled the Twin Cities for Duluth last summer. The number of friends I have at U of M
Starting point is 01:42:08 who have been mugged at gun and knife point just walking through Dinkytown or riding the light rail is truly insane. Well, there you go. Sholan Report says, Living in Wisconsin for the last couple of years, never heard a guy from Minneapolis sound so nice and fair. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 01:42:25 There you go. Mike Sullivan says, Great guest. South Carolina passed House Bill 3094 today. Eliminate state fees for CWP. Will now allow open or concealed carry with a permit. Makes SC a Second Amendment sanctuary state. Great day.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Yeah, it's not constitutional carry. You can, like in West Virginia, you can just walk around the barrett if you want yeah people just laugh at you though because they'd be like we get it we get your point there is good if you're too yeah there is hope in the world like i one of the things that i one of the views that we bring like i like to bring through recoil is that it's not all doom and gloom it's not all doom and gloom and it's not all they're taking our guns away young americans don't like gun control yeah they don't. They're turning away from it.
Starting point is 01:43:05 And whether they're turning away from it because of political means, whether it's Marxism, communism, socialism, whatever, or because they just don't trust the government, they're moving away. On top of that, there is ways that we are making victories. They're just not as political. They're not as they're not as uh polished theatrical stunts david hogg has a massive theater no substance and yeah it's nonsense yeah you know it's like it's it's he's you have to prop them up while in the background people are changing their opinions about it look at the last year in gun sales records massive records and we're not saying... Because if you look at gun sales throughout history in the United States, it's kind of a steady climb
Starting point is 01:43:48 with little spikes that kind of level out, but it never really goes up and then down. It goes up and then down a little bit, and then up and... Gun sales is a really good performing stock in the United States. If it was. But you look over the last year, it jumped and plateaued high. Yeah, you look at the
Starting point is 01:44:03 lines in these big cities. Yeah. Liberals lining up outside of gun shops. There was a funny video where this guy, at a gun shop, he made a video where he was like, stop coming to my store expecting to buy a gun for the first time. These liberals keep coming in, and they keep saying, can I pay more to get it now?
Starting point is 01:44:24 And it's, no, you can't. You voted for this. These are your laws. Shut up. Follow the rules. Because it's probably hilarious to have like your 50th guy come in and be like, I'd like to buy that gun. Okay, fill out the form. Okay, can I get it?
Starting point is 01:44:36 No, you're on a delay list. Come back in five days. We'll call you. Can I pay more? No, you can't pay more. You're being background checked. Shut up and go home. They get all mad about it.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Yeah, I mean, if you want to have the conversation about universal background checks that are already in place, stop talking about it. Right, right, right. Sergeant Buck says, just join as a member. If you want a modern military shooter that handles firearms well, I recommend Insurgency Sandstorm. The Division 2 is great, but it's become Destiny 2 with cover. I completely agree. Eric Rodriguez says, what are y'all's opinions on bullpup rifles i personally prefer them especially as a left left-handed person love the show keep it the great work can i not answer it's it's no i can um i have never i
Starting point is 01:45:19 do not have a lot a lot of experience with bullpup rifles in compared to a you know like an ar-15 yeah what does it mean bullpup bullpup rifle this is to a, you know, like an AR 15. Yeah. What does it mean? Bullpup bullpup rifle. This is the muzzle. This is the, the butt, the buttstock, right?
Starting point is 01:45:29 If my hand is in front of the magazine, the triggers in front of the magazine. So it goes barrel trigger magazine, which allows me to get a longer barrel in a shorter package. That's considered a bullpup. When you take the magazine and you build it behind the trigger. Oh, so you look at a reg,
Starting point is 01:45:44 like an AR 15, you've got stock grip magazine rail muzzle bullpup takes the magazine and it in the construction of the rifle and that gives it better balance so you can have a longer muzzle the theory is that you can have the benefit of a longer muzzle without an entirely longer firearm and then it does accomplish that it's just is the juice worth the squeeze because you lose something i think that having the magazine well in front of the trigger guard and this is the honest answer is i've been i've been shooting for so much in the military with ar-15 style platforms and and most of the modern military modern militaries across the world use a magazine in front um i'm so used to it switching
Starting point is 01:46:26 to a bullpup would be uncomfortable it'd be it's it's just like it's it is not the same thing it's not home um but the one of the disadvantages you get is manipulation of the firearm tends to be more uncomfortable so when i have to load a magazine in here i get drop the mag, put a new magazine in the mag well. It's sort of efficient. It's all there. But the other one that you start to see, and I think there are quite a few companies that are actually doing this very, very well, is the triggers in bullpups are historically referred to as being terrible. And so you want a good trigger because it adds accuracy.
Starting point is 01:47:04 It helps you control the weapon firearm better and historically speaking firearms with a bullpup design had a harder time making a better trigger oh all right all right meridian forest says hey tim u.s air force member here i was raised in north dakota and thankfully got stationed back in north dakota recently they voted to ignore a lot of the federal gun regulations here i'm not going to say i'm for or against this Yeah. Yeah. Make 1984 Fiction Again says, Wow. I got kicked off a job in the authoritarian state of Massachusetts for not wearing a mask outside
Starting point is 01:47:45 laving pavers on blacktop and 80 degree weather with no one near me. Wow. Jeez. That's a great name. Yeah. I was thinking that same thing. I have read that book and it's creepy. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:47:58 Read 1984 if you haven't read that. Yeah. I got that t-shirt. Yep. Tom, I think it says Tom, says, second time super chat. I feel stupid. I accidentally just sent you 10 bucks. Ha ha, here's another 10.
Starting point is 01:48:10 I'm here in Washington State. Zero gas shortage, but I just paid $3.59 a gallon to fill up this, what is it, Subby? Subby. The Subby. The Subby. Gas is getting expensive. I heard it was like $9 in some places. Oh my gosh
Starting point is 01:48:25 yeah i didn't i couldn't confirm it yeah i've just been seeing posts i don't know for sure five in california yeah in some areas it was absolutely skyrocketing ray uh rafe pernell says please post uh please post video of ian's gf bread recipe i need it gf gluten-free your girlfriend's bread recipe. I need it. GF gluten-free? Your girlfriend's bread recipe? Yeah. Yeah, she's hot. That was quick. I love it.
Starting point is 01:48:52 I'd have to make a gluten-free recipe maybe with almond flour, but I've noticed the wheat flour really handles the yeast and the sugar in a special way. I mix them together sometimes, do like a light gluten with like an almond flour. If it's GF flour bread recipe,
Starting point is 01:49:08 I haven't done a gluten-free one in a while. Ian's got bread i'm down to experiment so i'll get that rise kyle lipka says crowder calls it mug club you should call us the beanie bros you know we did have a conversation about like making membership name something and i was like there's gonna come a point where we have many more shows and people will just be like, what is that? Imagine going to like Disney Plus and it's called like the Mickey face. Be like, be a Mickey Mouse. Yeah, that was the thing. Join the Mouseketeers. You'd be like, no.
Starting point is 01:49:36 I guess. No. No. Nah. All right. Ace 2020 Boyd, YouTube is crazy. They can put strikes on Crowder, but allow Nakey Yoga videos
Starting point is 01:49:48 with full frontal no blurs. Also won't let me send this with the full words, right? Huh. Dude, there's really messed up videos. There's videos where a guy does like what's in my butt challenge. They show it.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Whoa. Yep. They show it. Yeah. They actually show his butt? Well. Cringe. They don't show like. Whoa. Yep. They show it. Yeah. They actually show his butt? Well. Cringe. They don't show, like.
Starting point is 01:50:08 I don't know. They show it from a perspective where it's like, you can tell what they're doing. They say what they're doing. So Crowder actually had a segment where they actually show some of the highly objectionable material that you can find on YouTube. And I don't think YouTube liked that very much. No. But, I mean, they should have said thank you.
Starting point is 01:50:27 You know, I don't have to hire somebody to police my own. Yep. Don Jett says cicadas contain high levels of mercury. I don't think eating a bunch of them is wise. Shout out to Ian from Cuyahoga Falls, Monroe Falls Avenue. Dude, what's up? You ever go to Monroe Falls Lake and take a dip? That's where I used to get shaved ice right over there.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Oh, cool. Yeah. I have no idea what you just said. Oh, that's my hometown. Shout out to my homies. Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio. What's up? Ashley Hayes says,
Starting point is 01:50:56 K.Y. Masks end June 11th. Look into Andrew Cooper, writer of Brood in Lexington. Took the flight to Andy Beshear. His weekly protests built his own CC processing service after being banned from Stripe and PayPal. He is leading Project Uncancellable in KY. Interesting. Cool. Jelly Bean says, hey Tim, fellow Illinois citizen here.
Starting point is 01:51:21 I'm from the suburbs, however, Orland Park area, Oak Forest to be exact. I work in Joliet, New Lenox area, and I paid $3.17 a gallon. I thought Illinois wasn't one of the states affected by the pipeline issues. Maybe the pipeline issues, there's more to the story than they're telling us. But I know all of those areas very well.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I used to skate in a lot of them. Dane Schell says, the left is doing what libertarians couldn't, and that's break down the system enough for a new generation to have a clean slate the great reset but doing it with bad fuel unscalable ideologies I mean
Starting point is 01:51:52 to a certain degree but they're like kneecapping the police and then replacing them with woke police so it's not gonna get better it's just getting worse are those woke police disarmed? no they're armed Kev says first super chat ever better it's just getting worse are those woke police disarmed no they're armed okay so yeah
Starting point is 01:52:05 that's pretty that's pretty true yeah that's not good kev says first super chat ever what good is a functioning pipeline if the billing software has been encrypted and you can't bill your customers they paid the ramps the ransom within three hours according to numerous reports so they weren't dealing with that. Amazing. No idea. Nicholas Nasty says, the purpose of the Second Amendment is to guarantee that the people have any necessary implement to overthrow a tyrannical government,
Starting point is 01:52:34 zero limitations. This is only partially true. I'm not a fan of when people are like, it's to overthrow tyrannical government. No, it was literally to defend yourself, period. Tyrannical government or invading force or lunatic criminal a free state requires a well-regulated militia therefore the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed people need to understand
Starting point is 01:52:56 there were no police back then it was all local militia when there was like a robbery people would round up the boys and they would be like, hey, get the militia. Yeah, the Second Amendment is a poem to the people to remind them that they are free and it's a prohibition against the state. Yep. Marco says,
Starting point is 01:53:15 I have a question for Forrest mainly. With all the critical race theory and other agendas in the army being pushed, would you still join the Rangers? Love the show. Oof, that is a good question you're gonna have to have a small challenge between two decisions one of them i can answer for you if you're going to join the rangers absolutely if you're not getting if you're interested in joining
Starting point is 01:53:35 the military right now you have to go special operations ranger battalion navy seals special forces marsok it's going to trust me every the military is all moving in that direction the global war on terror is known as the rise of the special operations so if you're thinking about joining the military and you haven't looked at special operations absolutely what's what's marsak marsak would be this marine version of special operations their their contribution or their contribution so all right second one we're looking at critical race theory in the military. If you believe that you have the moral integrity to resist the the the push of critical race theory. Yes. But that has to be a very serious and personal question. If you if you are if you think that you're going. Yeah. Does that does that answer the question? Yeah. Like you. It is a very serious question. Take it seriously. Why are you joining the military? Is it out of patriotism?
Starting point is 01:54:28 Is it out of duty? Those are easy answers to say on paper, but when you actually have to live them out. All right. Ossory says, great guest. We vets and country boys will be the ones to survive when the energy hits the fan. Dude, you guys are constantly hyping Ian's bread and I'm yearning for a road trip and I'm not even a big bread eater. So we are currently building out,
Starting point is 01:54:51 as part of the new website, an auction feature, which is going to allow us to do a two-tiered ticket system for the house. So we want to do Friday night events every Friday. Ten tickets first come first serve and then probably 10 maybe more tickets that are top auction based this way you have the people who are like spamming the refresh button because we can't we don't we only have certain capacity it's not it's not like we have
Starting point is 01:55:14 that much space so we have to figure out a way to make it fair and i'm like two-tier system works because then you have people who can afford to mosey on over not really worry about time and make their bid and spend more to come but then people who probably can't afford to mosey on over, not really worry about time and make their bid and spend more to come. But then people who probably can't afford to can just try and use merit, just get that ticket first. It'll be difficult. And we'll put in restrictions so that some people don't come every single time.
Starting point is 01:55:36 We get more opportunities. But the auction system allows us to basically do anything. So we can auction off a loaf of Ian bread stored properly in dry ice. Now, I don't know what the regulations are. Right. It might be like a donation. It might have to be just like Ian as a person sending a person. No, no.
Starting point is 01:55:52 The business will be able to do the auction. I will make several, at least three loaves of bread for that event. And then we'll have to put. Oh, yeah. Then we'll just slice them into quarters. We'll slice the breads into halves. We'll do like a garlic bread. We'll do a cinnamon raisin.
Starting point is 01:56:04 Make sandwiches. Maple. We'll have sandwiches ready and bread is good it's it is it is it makes like store-bought bread just like i mean there's no preservatives this is the thing the store-bought bread has natural they put preservatives in it so it can last on the shelf this stuff goes stale after five days if you leave it out even if you have it in a bread box yeah you gotta eat it man if you did in the first two days it's amazing it is just moist and it just holds the you can't explain it with words you you guys you you really want to come to these events so we're we're in the process of setting things up so that we can actually do this we just had it we just had the driveway redone we just had some work done in the garage there's still a process i know we wanted to do this back in
Starting point is 01:56:42 february and then i'm, we should have public events. And then we had like a legal conversation, and I was like, oh, we can't. We still have to overcome some hurdles business-wise. And so we're all working on the things with the checklist to get everything done. And it takes a long time, man. It's too bad. You know, in the real world, you can't just do things. I think most people learn that.
Starting point is 01:57:03 These business people think it's like well i know how to make a business work they get into government then all of a sudden everything sludges up they don't realize that once you get government involved it's just like i could theoretically be like come on down and then we'd be shut down in two seconds so fortunately all right where are we at philip snow says love the show did anyone else see the vaccine concert sponsored by youtube last week talk about serious propaganda the whole thing was about getting people vaccinated even biden and kamala were part of it it's the craziest thing to me because it's weird that you've got
Starting point is 01:57:40 everyone advocating for a medication when people should be advised to go and talk to their medical professionals their doctors when donald trump talked about hydroxychloroquine they were screaming at the top of their lungs like he's gonna get people hurt don't do this the same thing is true for any medication all of a sudden they flipped their tune it's like oh now it's fine now just ignore no no no no you go to your doctor you ask you ask your doctor what's up because i think it's ridiculous yeah stop, stop treating the politicians, the political class, as your high priest. Scarier, is that four? Says, good on you for having recoil on. Met two of their guys at a training course.
Starting point is 01:58:14 Cool dudes. Get knowledge and skills. You bet. Thanks. Pdogg says, if you want a depiction of life without electricity, read the Going home series by a american really makes you think about how people would act also michael knoll's book speechless is available for pre-order on amazon ding that dude is gonna sell so many books yeah ding speechless
Starting point is 01:58:37 they just put it at the end and then i have to read it i love it so much doc lock says 1500 pew pew device voucher take it to the pew pew store for your pew pew of choice yearly 500 round box of ammo for training and supply biannual mandatory training national defense budget i don't know training i just agree with don't don't ever don't ever put the state in charge of training yeah exactly when you go when you go to the dmv maybe if you're going to get a gun from the government you've got to do a general firing test like yeah like a driving test exactly like you walk up and you have you have your handgun and you have your your ar and they do
Starting point is 01:59:14 like some basic range or whatever some low range seven yards and what maybe like 21 for the rifle and then they test you and if you are good enough they're like you pass have a nice day so you'll have to load the gun they'll watch you load it just make sure you know how don't you'll have to turn the safety off make sure you know how and then you'll have to hit the target yeah make sure you know i mean that's that's all they already make you do that in minnesota for concealed carry or a permit to carry so you go to the dgs instead of like a driving test you just you need to fill a little piece of paper and they call you into the range and then you do a function test fire and then so there'll be immediate failures like a rolling stop if you don't stop completely the stop sign
Starting point is 01:59:50 that's an automatic failure yeah but you can take the test again yeah so then you're like okay so it'd be pretty easy to do yeah i mean this it does sound like a good idea so long as it's mandatory that the state give out firearms but or you know or like proof of proof proving it over there i just don't want the state telling me what i can and cannot do when the state give out firearms. Right. Or, you know, or like proof of proof, proving it over there. I just don't want the state telling me what I can and cannot do when the state can't figure out, you know, everything else. I think if they're going to give you something, a test isn't a big deal because you always have the choice to go buy one your own. Sure. So if it's like you want your free gun from the government, there's a range there. You got to, you know.
Starting point is 02:00:20 What's the test to get on welfare? You have to go to the department of health and human services and then they ask you a series of questions that you don't you can lie about well i mean you can lie about a lot whatever you want i mean if you want to break the law you can break the law so sure yeah but if it's like if you're gonna be getting free stuff you know i'm just saying piracy is in fashion yeah all right let's see justin heasley says tim and forest why is the requirement of a firearm training class not necessarily supported by by pro 2a personalities
Starting point is 02:00:52 yeah i can answer that one it's because we don't want the state to tell us what is the requirement like so if you're going to come and take a class or if you're going to go get your concealed carry like absolutely that's the bare minimum so but you should be pursuing becoming better at something you should be pursuing taking other taxes uh requires but i do not think i do not because who determines what the test is yeah sure in order to get a gun you have to sit through eight hours of critical race theory yep or i think it's reasonable that people have a training course that they pass a training course in order to get a firearm don't you agree and they say yes okay now to pass the course we're going to give you a a you know nine millimeter we're gonna give you a glock and you
Starting point is 02:01:33 gotta hit the center of the target at 100 yards i can't do that you get one round yeah i can't do that i mean i can um so it's like oh okay like well if you can't do it you shouldn't have a gun yeah like it can it can be used as a prohibition, right? So a common thing that's said in the – that's used in kind of a trendy conversation that people say right now is like, oh, well, the history of gun control is rooted in racism. I think this is a bad argument. I get the point, but I think it's a bad argument because the origins of American – the american version of gun control was originally intended to target certain ethnic minorities the problem wasn't only that it was targeting ethnic minorities but it actually was also disarming a population the problem is the
Starting point is 02:02:17 disarmament so the application of one group of people making up a list of rules that you have to meet in order to be like them is wrong it is fundamentally tyranny to support gun control all right we got andrew j gregory says tim saw your blog where you guys were playing music i'm from md and would love to jam with you guys i've played drums on and off since i was 16 30 year old now, send us an email. All right, we'll just do a couple more. Let's see. Jonathan Duger says, Did time in KAF. If Minneapolis is anything like that,
Starting point is 02:02:53 leaving is a good choice. Army leads the way. Thank you. Hot Dog 400 says, Tim, you bring up a good point. Get rid of police, Bring back local militia. I'm pretty sure the left would agree with that because, well, they probably would because they're lying. But one of the arguments is that community policing.
Starting point is 02:03:12 You have cops from outside towns and areas coming in and enforcing the law and not caring about the community. And it's like, okay, local militia. Yeah. Right. Don't make the Marxist mistake of an argument of a good assessment of the problem means that you're going to have an excellent solution. Hmm. All right. One more.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Aaron says, raising Emden geese and guinea fowl. Is that what that GN is? Guinea. That's guinea. If everything turns out right, we have entertainment in our backyards. If there is a spike in food prices, we have a self-perpetuating fortune in our backyards. There you go. They're also alarm dogs.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Yeah. Loud. Guinea hens? Yeah. They're also alarm dogs. Yeah. Loud. Guinea hens? Yeah. They're not very intelligent. No. The chickens, man. Wow.
Starting point is 02:03:50 It's hilarious watching these things. They love music. I've seen it. Yeah. You were singing them? Yeah. They came over and sat down one by one and then just chilled and farmed and watched. I've watched, when I was a kid, we had a dog, and our dog actually called the guinea
Starting point is 02:04:03 hens from the neighbor's farm into our property and then ate them oh my gosh across the highway yeah wow it would sit
Starting point is 02:04:10 it was the weirdest thing called them it would sit way out in the field and it would make noise you could see it barking making this noise and then you'd see
Starting point is 02:04:18 this guinea hen walk across what the heck that dog was really really smart that's weird after Ian said that I went out with the guitar and I jammed. And Vanessa walked over and sat down and just hung out and watched me jam.
Starting point is 02:04:30 Yeah, she's going to have a character arc. I like Vanessa. So I was wrong. She's not mean. Vanessa's a chicken. Yes, Vanessa's a chicken. I said the other day that she was being mean. No, I was incorrect.
Starting point is 02:04:42 What was she doing? No, she was just, i think i mistook her demands for food to be bullying oh so when she would come up and follow me around and stuff i thought she was like getting ready to turns out she's one more stink bugs all right yeah and then you know she's very nice with her lead the way my friends if you have not already make sure you smash the like button and you can follow this show on Facebook, facebook.com slash TimCastIRL, where we will leverage the network to, if you could share the videos, get more people to go over to TimCast.com. So it's greatly appreciated.
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