Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #296 - Daily Caller SUES Democrat Mayor For Anti White Racism w/Lauren Chen

Episode Date: May 28, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join friend and fellow YouTuber Lauren Chen to examine the Daily Caller's choice to sue Lori Lightfoot over her racist interview policy, a man who won't take his mask off for anything (no, REALLY), democrat leaders destroying cities like New York City and Venice Beach, CA, and the great question of the Great Reset. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Daily Caller has filed a lawsuit because Lori Lightfoot, Democrat mayor of Chicago, was banning white people from doing interviews. And while maybe not the biggest story of the day, because, you know, Joe Biden is going to be printing six trillion dollars or he's proposing a six trillion dollar spending budget, which will shatter records not seen since World War Two, apparently, this is fighting back. This is an organization saying we're not going to stand up. We're not going to stand and just take this racism and we're going to push back. So I think it's something really important that we should talk about. And it's the direct ram economies are doing pretty, pretty, they're going pretty well. I mean, in South Dakota, for instance, Chrissy Noem's bragging about how their economy is actually improved. They never had a lockdown.

Then you look at the Democrat cities and it's really, really bad. There's stories coming out talking about the homeless crisis. They're calling it a constant state of emergency. California, Venice, it is just a very serious homeless problem. New York seeing the exact same thing. It didn't work. Whatever it is they did, didn't work. And clearly in New York, Cuomo killed all those people. So we know, yeah, it didn't work. And once again, Republicans are gloating because things are going well for them. And now we're learning that many people are fleeing Democrat cities, going to Republican areas. So there's a lot we're going to have to

go through. Gas prices skyrocketing. People don't want jobs. But we'll start with fighting back and pushing back on the woke racist cult stuff. And joining us today is Lauren Chen. Hello, hello. Thank you so much for having me again. It's good to be back. Do you want to just give a quick introduction? Sure. So I am Lauren Chen, the artist formerly known as Roaming Millennial.

If you've been following me for a while online, and I make videos on the Internet complaining about a variety of different things, culture, politics, sometimes movies. It's a genre of complaining on the Internet. Exactly, yeah. Commentary, that's what I like to think of us as. Ian. Oh, hi, Tim.

Ian complains on the Internet. Hello, Lauren. Thank you for having me. Yes, Ian Crossland here at iancrossland.net. Happy to be back. And Sour Patch Lids pushing the buttons in the corner for this lovely production with my pal Lauren. And don't forget, pop over to timcast.com, become a member by clicking that big old members only button, and you get access to the exclusive members area.

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That's what Tulsi Gabbard said, one of the only politicians with the guts to actually call out this fringe insanity. The Hill reports the Daily Caller News Foundation and one of its reporters is suing Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot. The lawsuit filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois accuses Lightfoot of ignoring an interview request from Thomas Kedinacci, a reporter for the publication, because he is not a journalist of color. The suit filed by conservative government watchdog group Judicial Watch claims Lightfoot violated Kedinacci's First Amendment and equal protection rights. The mayor's office has not yet filed a legal response to the suit, according to a federal court electronic records database. Quote, the city has not had the opportunity to review the complaint and has not yet been served, the Chicago Department of Law said when asked about the suit. Kedonacci referred

questions about the suit to Judicial Watch. Defendant is aware that plaintiff Kedonacci is not a journalist of color, and defendant has denied plaintiff's interview request pursuant to her announcement that she will only grant interview requests from journalists of color of the suit states. The lawsuit asks the court to force Lightfoot to give Ketanachi an interview and also pay the plaintiff's attorney's fees and litigation costs. I think it's a good thing. I think this is the kind of thing that people need to be doing more of. So far, it seems like now outside of The Daily Caller,

James O'Keefe and Veritas are the only ones who are really filing these lawsuits, challenging the insanity. But they're too often getting away with this stuff. Now, I also would like to point out the absurdity of, like, if he wins, what, he gets to interview Lori Lightfoot? So she'll just be like, screw you, I guess. She'll pay for it. Why didn't she just say, no, I don't want to talk to that guy? Why did she have to make it about race on the first place? Because she's racist.

Yeah, exactly. Why did she have to make it about race on the first place? Because she's racist? Yeah, exactly. Why did she keep it to herself? She tried to make this whole PR move where she was like, I will only be interviewing. I don't even think it's just POC. I think she said specifically black and brown or black and Latinx or whatever. I don't think she's including Asian. Sorry, Tim. We won't be interviewing Lori Lightfoot.

She was trying to make it into this look how progressive thing I am. So that's why she didn't just say no. It's because it was part of a she was trying to score woke points. And now she's being sued. So you get what you deserve. But this is this this kind of stuff we're seeing in government is just, you know, I want to talk about this because we recently saw that other lawsuit where the guy he sued Biden because Biden's doing this relief program for COVID, but not to white people. Right. And then there's another program where farmers can get like a debt repayment, but not to white people.

So, you know, this is, you know, this seems to me, they found a way to enact their critical race theory agenda without going through the normal channels because the normal channels would block them. If they, I mean, they're still doing it. If they said, we want to take all of the wealth from white people and give it to non-white people and create a communist utopia and raise up the system. Yeah, it's not gonna fly.

But if they say, oh, you know, we're gonna help everyone get their business up and running, but we're only giving money to, you know, certain races, then they're doing some kind of, it's insane, ideological manipulation of the system for some kind of social outcome. Well, I mean, and it's systemic racism. I support anyone who's suing on the grounds that the government is telling you you aren't eligible for a certain benefit or whatever, specifically because of your race. And this is exactly what the left likes to talk about all the time, right?

Systemically racist policies. They talk about things like redlining and Jim Crow, which yes, we're racist, but the answer to balance it out is not you know just throwing a little bit of anti-white racism to counteract the anti-black racism and so then it's everything's okay it's like no that's not the answer communism it's it's it's increasingly i mean you know a lot of people have mentioned like cultural marxism and stuff but i mean you look at what's going on with the state department they're putting putting up these, the embassies or whatever. Yeah, BLM flags. BLM flags, pride flags.

I'm like, those flags don't represent the country. It is a cult ideology is absolutely ingrained in our government right now. And I don't know how you get that out. That's an ideological stink. Lawsuits is good. Filing a suit. I don't think, you know, in the end, him getting an interview will really change anything. But pushing back against the racism is important.

Well, and I think half of the battle is really just awareness because for the longest time, I would say at least the past four or five years, this kind of stuff has been brewing and most people didn't know about it. The normies, the everyday people who aren't really politically engaged. And if we look at what's happening with all of these different states banning CRT in schools, Lydia and I were talking about this earlier. The only reason why that's happening now versus a couple years ago when it started is because now parents actually know about it because they were doing Zoom classes from home with their kids and they were actually looking over the material maybe for the first time. So it's like with this Lori Lightfoot thing, the lawsuit is important because at least now the people in Chicago will know, like, hang on, my mayor thinks this is a good idea. I don't think anyone's going to care a whole lot.

I just think this could set precedent. There's some pushback. But for the schools, I mean, think about what that means. For years, for a generation, parents never paid attention. You don't ask your kid, what did you learn in school today? I remember when I came back from school when I was a little kid, it's like, what did you learn? I was like, I learned about, when I was a little kid, my mom, she was very progressive

for this generation. I come back from school and she asked me what I learned and I mentioned something about Christopher Columbus, you know, 1492,

sailing the ocean blue. He discovered America. My mom was like, there were already people here and I was like, yeah. It's like, yeah,

the Native Americans. I was like, yeah. She's like, so they discovered America and I was like, oh. Did she tell you

about Leif Erikson? Yep. The Viking? That's right. That always blew my mind. So it's like, yeah, the Native Americans. I was like, yeah. She's like, so they discovered America. And I was like, oh. Did she tell you about Leif Erikson? Yep. The Viking? That's right. That always blew my mind. So it's like I never understood why schools were always lying. But here's, I guess I'm lucky. I have a parent who asks me what was going on in school, and then she can give me better information.

Today, parents don't care. They're not raising their kids. And it's insidious. Like, it's slid in. To be honest, I don't know because I haven't been to school in a while but i would imagine that it's it's it's slid into like it's not what they're teaching it's just part of like the the base of what's being taught you know like they'll put it in the book and they'll i don't know i haven't been to school in a while but i imagine that it's not like the overt lesson every time it's just kind of worse than that so i saw

this one uh this one math problem so remember you used to get the like you know train leaves new york traveling at 65 miles an hour another train leaves traveling at whatever miles per hour so i saw one where it was like you know jamal is a black man who gets stopped by police 17 times in one week and rick is a white man who gets stopped by seven times what percentage of the police stops were yeah yeah no no seriously that's the kind of stuff so it's it's part of the ideology it's to have it be every facet of their of their understanding of the world i think i'm hoping kids reject this kind of stuff you know because when i was a little kid i rebelled kids rebel and i hope hopefully the institutionalization of of the cult actually makes younger people reject it. But imagine how creepy it's going to be when, look, man, somebody posted on Reddit.

It was like a meme where it's like, kid, I'm 10 years old. And you're like, so what? It's like, I was born in 2011. And you're like, oh, man. Wow. Yeah, like you're talking to someone who was born in 2014. And people are like, what year is it? Wow, time flies.

Yeah. So in 20 years from today, you're going to have people in Congress who are raised on all of this stuff ingrained in their minds and their worldview will be absolute racism. Well, I mean, that's why it's important. I think that they're actually doing something to address it, banning it. And I was just seeing there was this little Twitter skirmish between, you know, Michael Mal malice who i'm a huge fan of and i think kathy young um there are people arguing that you you don't really support free speech if you want to ban crt from schools and it's like was that kathy young saying that i think she was on the side of the person who didn't want it to be banned right who was saying like well the right are just sjw's too because they're trying to ban this isn't

it fun now she always does that yeah i thought I thought so a little bit. I've interviewed her before and it was about something that I was on her side of, but I don't see how you can compare not wanting to fund what is obviously an ideological bent for young children with trying to

cancel people or being an SJW. When they used to complain about, and they still do, especially if you go on Reddit, religion in schools. Right. It's like, yes, get the ideology out of the education. Now it's the left putting an ideology into education and we're still saying, no, you shouldn't do that.

But these people are acting like that's acceptable and that should be done. Right. And I don't think they see the difference. It's like no one on the right now in mainstream is arguing that there should be, you know, Christian funded education mandatory in all schools. Because I think we've, you know, America has accepted that they don't want to do that. But when it comes to CRT and the left's ideology, for some reason, well, that should fall under free speech. It's like, I know, like you were saying, if we're getting ideology out, it should be all ideologies. Someone needs to start the church of critical theory.

That way it's, oh, it's a religion now. Like someone filed the paperwork and now you can't have it in schools. They don't even bother with trying to get it banned. But a bunch of states are banning it. So I guess it's a good thing. I don't know. I feel a bit nihilistic on it. A bit pessimistic. Like, oh, here we go. Here we go again. It's just going to keep happening.

That's how I felt last night. If you get to the kids, you brainwash the kids that you can and then you don't even see the results for 20 years or 15 years. That's the problem. We don't realize the damage we're doing. No, no, they do. Yeah, they like it. Yeah, they don't think of it as damage.

Yeah, they think of it as victory, winning. Isn't it amazing? Remember when that Republican lady was like, you know, she, I'm not going to quote her. She said something about that guy from Germany and how she claimed that him going after the kids was a good tactic. But she said it in a very, very different way. I won't repeat. Yeah, she said it in a very crude way. And all of a sudden the media erupted like, how dare you say that about that man? It's like, yeah, you shouldn't.

You shouldn't. But she was talking about how the Nazis went after kids. Yeah. Indoctrinated kids hitler youth right and now isn't it's really funny because uh i said it yesterday i'll say it again when people always ask like how did it get to the point where people were standing in the streets doing the nazi salute and i'm like the people are marching around doing the red salute right now like you don't even need to ask the question just look around you it's happening and you know what people always think it can't happen here and then it does happen here it can happen anywhere but it's not going to be overnight

i don't know about that i used to think you know slippery slope takes time it's not going to be overnight look at what happened with covid look at how quickly it became the norm to actually call the police on your neighbors for having people over that took a year like less than a year my favorite thing was like how quickly the police started enforcing things that weren't the law it's like it's not there's no law saying you have to you have to stay in your house and they're like well the governor said so i'm like i'm sorry do you follow the constitution and the law or just like what the governor tells you to do right yeah and all of these cops were just like with smiles on their faces you know beating and arresting people there's a video it's really really amazing, man. Reddit is awesome.

You ever go to Reddit? I can't stand it. I know. That's why it's awesome. It's like looking into the mirror dimension. It's like this parallel paranoid reality. There was a video where it's a woman having a breakdown over masks, and she's just screaming like, I am done with this.

I am done being bullied. The CDC data says, and then the cop grabs her and arrests her, and the people are cheering, calling her a Karen. And I'm like she was citing cdc data and the cop arrested her dude the the younger generation that's on these platforms whether it's sock puppets manipulating them it is becoming 1984 ultra cult authoritarian it's creepy it is creepy and i even with the mass thing we were talking about this earlier i mentioned online i see people in cities walking around by themselves wearing masks and they're not it's not like there's anyone near them and i asked why on social media people are doing that and i had all these people saying well it's to express my concern for others because i

care so a i got a lot of people saying it's to express something meaning that it is a virtue signal it's a social signal that you're showing that you care you saw david hogg right no he tweeted he didn't want people to think he was a conservative oh my goodness so he's wearing a mask because of that yeah i mean it's like it's a social signal or now so it's either you're doing this just for woke virtue points or you're we've been so hyped into this fear this hysteria by the media that people actually think it's this deadly that even if you're we've been so hyped into this fear this hysteria by the media that people actually think it's this deadly that even if you're not sick the other person isn't sick you're outside you're not near each other you could still spread it what well this is uh this is where it gets we you know we were gonna talk about a bunch of democrat policy stuff but let's just let's just

let's just go there okay you guys ready yeah from. My husband won't take his mask off even for sex. Uh-oh. We're both vaccinated now. When will this stop? That's horrifying. So this is mask derangement syndrome. And I blame the media freaking out. So this guy apparently, maybe it's a prank.

Maybe someone wrote a letter like, ha-ha, I'm going to send it in. I don't know. I'm convinced that real people exist like this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, have you seen the videos where people are screaming about masks? Like, they lose their minds. Just stay away from the people

if they're not doing what they're supposed to be. If they're supposed to be wearing a mask in the store and they don't want to and they don't, ignore them. Stay away from them. Don't go near them. It's the weirdest thing because if you were worried about getting sick,

why would you go up to the person and start yelling at them? You know what I mean? Yeah. So anyway, I'm not going to read everything. But this lady is saying that, like, he won't take his mask off at all when he's eating. She says he pulls it up to expose his mouth, quickly pulls it back down between bites. While he does not insist I do the same, I can tell it bothers him that I don't, especially because I have now started going maskless outside,

per the CDC guidelines, and plan on restaurant dining inside soon for a girl's night out. She says, even during lovemaking. Is that what you call it? Yeah, that's what married people call it. No, I'm saying like when you got a guy who's wearing a mask so he can't, you know. You saw the naked gun when they had to use protection when they had. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. The full body suit. That was love. Dude, these people have gone crazy. And the thing is, there's no science behind it. We always hear trust the science. And I think people forget that the mask was originally if you're sick to prevent the spread. Right.

No, it wasn't. Oh, really? Because in Asia. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. So you're correct. Yeah. Really? Because in Asia... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You're correct. You're correct.

Yeah, yes. Because in Asia, that, like, for a long time, mask culture has been a thing. But it was never just everybody all the time. It's just that if you have a runny nose, you think you might be sick, you don't want to spread it,

you put your mask on. And then... Because I was going to say, at first, Fauci said, you don't need to be walking around with masks. Maybe it protects a droplet. That's how, you know, that's Fauci, right?

And then he flip-flopped. And then everyone needs to wear masks all the time. And it was really funny because conservatives in the beginning were the ones wearing masks. Yes. Yeah, I remember that. There was one point I was in L.A. and I had the N95 mask. And those are, it protects you from breathing things in, filters it. But then when you breathe out, it just breathes out.

That's right. So it doesn't protect you from the droplets of Fauci. It doesn't protect others. Others. But that was the whole point of masks. But people didn't know and didn't care because they would just see me and they'd be like, oh, he's got a mask on. Well, they then banned them and like net gators and all that stuff. But, man, is it –

But it was like the psychology of it was more important than what they were actually doing. That was what just noticed. I just got to say, you know, I remember when this first was going down, like when everything was starting and I had a bunch of people on the right. And I get masks. Now you're going to want to wear them. And then it's like this weird thing started to happen where it started to reversal. And I'm just like, you know, that's that's hardcore tribalism. People were like, wear masks.

Then they were like conservatives all of a sudden decided not to wear. I don't think it's tribalism. I think it's just tribalism. People were like, wear masks. Then they were like, conservatives all of a sudden decided not to wear them. I don't think it's tribalism. I think it's just being contrary. I think that's all there is to it. Good or bad. Right. No, absolutely not. It's tribalism.

You think it's tribal? Yeah. The conservatives were anti-establishment and wanted to be contrarian. Yeah. So they decided now all of a sudden they were going to defy the orders. When Fauci was saying don't, they were like're crazy and they went and bought masks and then once it switched and all of a sudden like trump didn't wear a mask i guess all of a sudden everyone's like bah it's just the weirdest thing well i mean i think it's interesting to see how this has unfolded

with the evolving knowledge we've had about kobe because i remember when stuff first started happening i didn't go out because i was scared you know my dad's immunocompromised and things like that and we were getting crazy footage out of wuhan like people like collapsing in the streets it was insane but then what's weird is that as we found out more about how covid spreads and about how lethal it was and things like that um you know for a lot of people i think that would have been reason to kind of ease up like oh okay it's not as bad as we were thinking we didn't know but now we actually have numbers in but for a lot of people it was the inverse they actually got more panicked and that's because the media was reporting on it more even though all the data we were coming

in was good news for us i think it's it's widely tribalist i mean we heard from david hogg he was like okay the cdc says if you're vaccinated you can take your mask off but then people think i'm a conservative so that that's it. It's virtue signaling because the culture war tribes are so distinct now. There's people who are terrified of being viewed as a member of the other tribe. CNN really has a hand in causing the fear, too. I discovered that guy explaining that we would put the number of the COVID death numbers on the screen intentionally. It got good reviews. It got good views. Gangbusters. It got good reviews. It got good views.

It got clicks. It got good, what do you call it? Ratings. Yeah, it got good ratings. He said it was gangbusters for the ratings. Gangbusters. Have them, you know, if it bleeds, it bleeds. The death count.

Yeah. They were scaring people on purpose for ratings. And now we're seeing the last. Does that work? Does that work? You like scaring people? Well, it works. I mean, it worked for them.

It gets ratings, but it actually destroys society in the process. So is that working? I don't know. So I could say something like, oh, viewers, there's vampires. Oh, no. And there's zombies and werewolves. They're everywhere. Yeah, you got to be careful.

You know what Orson Welles? If they get scared now because people are scared of vampires, right? So our ratings are going to go up now? Yeah, I think so. It's possible. Don't share the video. If you have connections to government and you're able to actually hype up government with your own reporters going up to, let's say, Saki and saying,

what are you doing about the vampire menace? I'll just do it. Yeah, that might work. I'm Dr. Fauci and vampires are really bad so wear your neck, gators, because they'll bite your neck. I think in the 20s, War of the Worlds,

Orson Welles, he had a radio show with his theater group and they did this radio show called War of the Worlds where they were like, aliens are attacking and people thought it was real.

So I've heard that people were killing themselves because they thought it was the end of the world. But people were going out in the street and looking up in the sky for the aliens. I think it's an urban legend. I don't know how to confirm it.

I'll tell you what is real. Israel. Well, yes. No, no, no. Look at the chat. A guy and a woman who were about to get... Are they married or whatever? Yeah, they're married.

Great story. Yeah, husband and wife. Yeah, married. They're on the verge of divorce because he won't take his mask off during sex. And so the lady actually tells her, like, the prudence or whatever,

responds with, like, take him to therapy. Yes. And then if he doesn't respond, like, leave him. What are you supposed to do? Yeah. Dude, that's creepy.

No, but that's not anything to do with actual COVID. Like, COVID is not the problem here. There's something underlying that. And I think it's so true for all these other authoritarians who are crazy and obsessive about this. It's not really about the pandemic because the numbers don't support it. I think it's a form of social control. It's media derangement syndrome. But you know what I find fascinating is that it's a sorting algorithm essentially, right? So there are free-thinking, independent people who believe in personal

responsibility. These people have politics that vary from economic left to economic right. So you'll get someone who's like a disaffected liberal, intellectual dark web, a moderate or conservative, but then you have people who just don't know, don't care, don't want to know, and don't want to care. These are the kind of stories that are shuffling them into two different groups. One group is a bunch of mindless drones who believe insane things. Trump is a Russian agent. And then the other group are people who are challenging the establishment. Now, don't get me wrong. You got fringe, you know, right wing people, Q and whatever stuff. But that's the minority. That's not a large faction.

And the easiest way to understand it is the prominent conservative voices or the prominent anti-woke or anti-establishment voices are not fringe. Like, they're not crazy. They're rational. They're fairly moderate.

On the left, the prominent voices are fringe, wacko conspiracy theorists like Rachel Maddow claiming that Russia was going to shut the – what if Russia shuts the power off to Fargo in the middle of the winter? What are we going to do? And Donald Trump, Russia. And then they had the guy Jonathan Shane on MSNBC who was like Donald Trump may be a Russian asset going back as far as the 80s. That's the mainstream institutionalized left. What's the worst that you get a republican party

the republican leadership that's an oxymoron they're just like milk toast mitch mcconnell's like well i'll be a speed bump for the democrats and then you get what marjorie taylor green that's the worst the republicans can muster essentially and what's frustrating is that it there's no long-term memory or heck even short-term term memory when it comes to defining what is and what is not a conspiracy there is i mean we saw this with the vaccine covid wuhan lab thing um you know we have screenshots of the media just ripping apart trump for saying that it could have come from a lab and now it's like oh yeah maybe it did and it's it's funny how quickly that narrative changes and it's based on who's saying it. Fauci. Yeah.

Fauci comes out and he says he's not entirely convinced that COVID was naturally occurring. And now all of a sudden, all of these stories are being just flipped. Think about how insane that is. Because I'll tell you, headlines change because they realized they were wrong. That means every link that used the headline now has the incorrect headline that doesn't change. You go on Reddit and look up the archives, look up the rankings, and you'll see a story that says Trump pushes debunked conspiracy. You click it and then it says, you know, update. This is actually, you know, like actually maybe. Yeah. So you look at Wikipedia. How many articles exist right now on Wikipedia that say things and

use those stories as references that have now been changed? See, the Wikipedia editors aren't going to go back to a bunch of these articles, some which may be obscure and change all them. So there you go. The whole system is fried from this insanity. And I don't know what it is. I can tell you that we used to have journalists that I guess competed with each other, but now they all walk in lockstep and it's all about social acceptance. So you could find, or I'll put it this way. A good journalist is always researching conspiracy theories because they hear a crazy story. Did you hear about government politician who, you know,

was doing this and that? And imagine, you know, you go back to the Watergate. Imagine if someone came out and was like, Richard Nixon is doing this, that and whatever. Oh, that's a conspiracy theory. Oh, you're nuts. I'm not going to bother investigating that. Could you imagine if that's how journalism was back then? At least I did something about it. Well, they don't really investigate things anymore. I mean, one of the only investigative journalists is James O'Keefe. Now it seems like journalists just go on Twitter, retweet each other, talk to each other, and there's no actual, like, firsthand probing or investigating unless it's, like, you know, doxing some grandma who voted for Trump in 2016 because of Russian Facebook ads. Going to her house. Exactly.

And then James O'Keefe is the one who gets banned because he does something similar. It's interesting about Veritas because I think James is very obviously conservative. But it's clear that the things he's active about are much more about honesty in journalism and in corporations. Because he's not doing stories, for the most part, that are benefiting some kind of Republican agenda in terms of taxes or pro-life. It's usually like we caught someone lying. We got Facebook's manipulating. It does benefit conservatives because conservatives are getting censored for sure. Maybe that's just where conservatives are at right now. But you look at Vox and The New York Times and they want a political agenda. They want a hard outcome. They specifically want what the Democrat wants or they're just willing to say whatever they have to say to fit in with Democrats. I think it has a lot to do with social media. I think it has a lot to do with urban centers

monopolizing journalism, basically. So the people who work at the New York Times want to fit in. So what do they do? Sitting down at the bar, and they're in the back of their Brooklyn speakeasy, whatever. And then one person says something, and the other person just says, whatever you say, tell me what to say and I'll say it because I want to fit in. Fitting in things disturbing. It does suck to not fit in, especially, I mean, ostracization could lead to death back in the ancient world if you're thrown out of the city. But unemployment nowadays, right?

And being canceled off the Internet, Man, it's pretty rough. But still, you know, falling in line to a corrupt system seems way more dangerous than losing access to it. I would rather sleep in a bin in a dumpster than live on my knees for these people. Yeah, you got to at some point. Why? You know, I did that with the entertainment industry in Hollywood. It was so gross. I could have been easily a millionaire. I was making

good money working commercials in LA. Think about the absolute insanity that is the policies being pushed by these Democratic politicians. How they keep making things worse, but people just are scared of not fitting in.

So it's absolute mob mentality right you get the you get the uh story of lynchings you get the story of people marching with pitchforks and torches they get wrapped up in the mob and they just do what the mob does and this is no different the like twitter for instance is a constant mob yeah it's all mob mentality it's people piling on so people join in because they want to fit in and they're scared. So what is it happening? New York City, right? It's horrible, horrifying.

We have a story. Homelessness, mental illness, crime is skyrocketing. Locals and tourists believe the town has lost its essence. Some of these photos, I don't even know if I can show you because New York is bad. There's a woman laying, a mentally ill homeless man is seen laying in the street blocking traffic in times square whoa you look at venice there's i mean this is brutal constant emergency zone calls for change mount as homeless encampment fills

venice boardwalk crime increases imagine after watching all of this imagine after watching what happened in portland with you know constant constant riots, firebombs. People are like, well, you know, but I don't want people to think I'm a Trump supporter. So I'll vote for the Democrat again. Yeah. And I think what's really shocking is that a lot of the people who are in these areas, these urban areas like New York, they've been there for so long. They think it's normal. I remember last time I was in la i was talking to

someone who was from la and she asked like so are you going to be moving down here and i said i i don't think i could frankly she's like oh really why not i was like well there's you know there's a lot of poverty there's a lot of crime a lot of homelessness and she was like what really it's like yeah and uh even just recently i was in new york with uh sean actual justice warrior and you know he was driving us through the city and you know we, we were asking him, so is this a good area? Is this a good area? And I remember, like, we would be driving somewhere and he was like, yeah, yeah, this is a really nice area. And, like, Liam and I would, my husband would, like, look at each other in the back, like, it does not look like a nice area.

And that's just, I think a lot of people are desensitized to, you know, seeing stuff. Like, we saw a drug deal on the side of the street. Biggest rat I've ever seen in my life. But that's normal for them. So for these people who have been living. No offense. No, a little bit of offense. That's not good.

Yeah. For these people who've been living in these cities for the past year, they're frogs boiling. They don't realize the temperature is escalating. Just every day, another homeless tent every day, another crime, a mugging. And now they're used to it. And I know this from experience because living in Chicago, I remember when I leave Chicago, I'm like, wow, carjackings and shootings are like a rare thing, huh? It's like, well, not when you're in Chicago. It's like once a month or at least you hear gunshots going out and you hear a story about a murder, 800 murders per year.

So you're getting a couple murders per day. That's living life. So when you live there there you're desensitized to all this so the people who are living in new york and there's crime and there's escalating mental illness and problems and benefits are worse the train service is worse it's just normal every day they add one more grain of sand in that heap and eventually the city's trash and people just live in it la though people are noticing my friends in. are posting about it. I'm like, dude, you'll see under the underpass, there's just like tents, tents, way, way more. I was there in 2010.

I was in Venice. I lived in the Navy and Pacific right on the beach, like a block from the beach. And they had passed legislation right around that time that they could no longer camp overnight in the parking lot. They were, like, all bringing their RVs in and just living there in the parking lot. So eventually they had to leave and come back. Still pretty rare. And it was to the point where if you wanted to park on Fifth Street in Venice and then walk to the beach, you're better off parking in front of some homeless tents

because they'll be like, hey, and they'll watch your car for you. You come back and they're super cool. But like anything, if it gets overpopulated, it can become very, very dangerous. So here's two things are happening, right? We got a bunch of Republicans. They're all gloating. They're like, you know that, you know, that gif of who is it? It's the was the godfather or whatever.

Yeah. Where they're like all laughing and smoking. Yeah. Oh, that's the godfather. Yeah. That's so that's the Republican governors right now. So we have a story. Red state governors tell Hannity Town Hall how harsh lockdowns in liberal states have

turned Democrat voters into Republicans who have fled and are now boosting their economies. Cool. The Democrats, I think, I can only imagine, wanted to destroy their cities. Well, it's hard to imagine people who are in these cities and who see everything getting worse, like, you know, the economy crime and all that stuff. And these places that have been in under the same control for decades, if not generations it's like if you look at the state of things now who do you have to blame right i mean it's been the same people in power so if you're one of those residents and you're still voting for those same people i mean i've got a question like why right that's insanity just doing the same thing keeping the same party same people in power and expecting it to be different

um i i kind of like i forget who it was maybe kanye when it was talking about like blagged it and voting for trump it's like what do you have to lose by trying something different if you're in one of those situations where you know like baltimore detroit you've kind of been sold out and just completely forgotten about why not at least try to change stuff up. Democracy doesn't work, does it? You know my thoughts on this. My thoughts are I prefer individual liberty over democracy and they're not always in opposition to each other, but they are not synonymous. Like I think, you know, Democrats often paint them as being and I do, you know, service guarantees citizenship. I think there's better metrics of measuring the effectiveness and fairness of government rather than everybody gets a say. Yeah. So the Democrat Democratic Party is literally becoming the Democratic Party and the Republican Party is literally becoming the Republican Party.

It's a bit simplistic right now. But Republicans like republicanism where you have states and you have these jurisdictions and you can live in your state and have your rights protected and the federal government provides for the common defense and things like that. And then you have the Democratic Party, which wants everyone to vote all the time, no matter how old you are, and then just get a majority rule on things. The ancient Greeks had two parties, primarily the democracy party and the oligarchy party. And it seems like we might still have that with the Democrats and the Republicans, although they're both a little more like it's all funneling through a republic now. There is no, like, mob rule, but we still have, like, the Democrats and the oligarchs. It's all mob rule. What do you mean? Well, we have the republic in the Senate, basically,

is supposed to, like, be a stopgap to the mob rule and say... Yeah, and that's true that does it the democrats complain about it they're like why do 16 percent of the population have 50 percent of the say or whatever well yeah they talk about the senate and the electoral college not being democratic as if that's a fault rather than the point of the system yeah they say like did you know this it's like yeah that's why it was created that way. It's to temper mob rule. And, you know, just the idea, they talk about things like they'll have polls like this many people think it's unacceptable to have hate speech, yet it's allowed. Or, you know, this many people think we should have socialist policies.

Like, I don't care what how many other people support taking away my rights. They're my rights. You can't just take them away no matter how many people are in favor of it. Well, that's what the guns are for. Yes. Yeah. And they don't understand that either. You know what it is? It really is a sorting algorithm where you've got people who just don't know and don't care and the people who do. That's really it. They think they know and care. But if that were true, they'd actually, I don't know, like fact check some of the things they read, but they don't. Conservatives do. Conservatives constantly are reading other sources.

And it's not perfect. They're not always correct. But as I mentioned fairly often, there's that one study, I think it was Pew. Republicans get around a third of their news from liberal sources because they're comparing and contrasting. Liberals don't. I think the Jonathan Haidt's research on moral foundations plays into this as well the the left liberals only care about care and fairness they only have two moral foundations

republicans have six initially it was five now there's six so libertarians have one no it's true it's true they have one liberty that's it it's amazing so you can take these tests and they tell you if you're a liberal, conservative or libertarian. Libertarians don't care about anything so long as it's liberty based. Makes sense. Yeah. So there's like some really creepy questions in these in these in these tests. But Republicans tend to have every moral foundation, which includes purity, loyalty, authority, care, fairness and liberty. No, I think that's a six.

I can't remember. And the left is only care and fairness, and liberty. I think that's the six. And the left is only care and fairness. What ends up happening then is you go to someone and say, hey, I propose this policy. And the only thing the left cares about is, is it fair or caring about someone? That's why you see Democrats literally be like, it's racist, it's racist, it's racist. Because that strikes at care and fairness.'s not fair racism is not fair and then you go to conservatives and they care about loyalty supporting those who supported you back the blue authority you know also back the blue purity is you know purity is an interesting family yeah like family and and maintaining you know tradition and things like that the left

doesn't care about any of that this is my my problem with fairness. This idea of fairness. If there's two people and you have one sandwich, what's fair? You split it in half and give each person half. What if one of those people is super hungry? The other one's totally full. What's fair? You still split it in half and give them each? And this guy can't even eat it, so he throws it away?

Or do you give the entire sandwich to the hungry person? And then you have to make that judgment call of what's fair. And you have to believe that they're telling the truth that they're actually hungry. It's simple. You take the sandwich for yourself and you kill both. That's communism. And communism's the most fair, right? Well, usually.

And that's a great point when it also comes to things like wealth redistribution, like the communism. Is it fair, and I think the answer is no, but is it fair that someone who works all day uh gets the same amount of money as someone who didn't work at all like is is that fair i would say no and there's this sense of like almost equity that they equate with fairness and they equate that with justice but i don't think that's fairness at all i think we have different definitions of what's

fair except like when it's in a family and it's like a young kid that doesn't can't work and then the parent does all the work and provides equal for everybody. But I think there are people who are communists and socialists who see everybody who isn't willing to work or incapable as a child.

And we even saw that as like one of the drafts of the Green New Deal that even people who did not want to work would be provided for. Here's the philosophical question. Ian, if you saw a

beautiful rare butterfly flapping around doing its thing and then it got stuck in a spider's web would you free it no why not uh i don't know it's not really my place would you free it no i don't like bugs you know i don't care if it's a butterfly yeah the trash take care of the trash i wouldn't why not i spiders gotta eat yeah it's true this is just who do I condemn the spider or the butterfly

if you were caught in a big spider web I would free you right unless it was like a Lord of the Rings thing in which case I might lie

agreed no but you can use the what is it the light of Elendri or what is it yeah the last light of the elves or whatever that's what I would do

there you go and then you'd scare the spider away I'd cut it away and I'd scream pull you down light of uh of you know the last light of the elves or whatever that's what i do yeah there you go and then you'd scare the spider away cut it away and i'd scream yeah pull you down and carry off on my shoulder that's right it's interesting so i went out and i gathered a bunch of cicadas right because they're everywhere and i just i like in ten minutes had 40 of them and just dumped them in the chicken city and the chickens just run up and start just mashing their faces into them and they're eating them like crazy and And I thought about how brutal it was that these things spend their lives, 17 years, 17 years of their lives, growing and getting ready to just get that chance to reproduce. And I took that away from them.

I do think, however, I'm helping because the smart cicadas, when I got close, would fly away. And the dumb ones would just go. That's evolution. That's right. You're contributing the gene pool. Well, that's kind of scary because then you're contributing to some sort of super cicada race.

Super cicada. Well, actually, no. Like we would take part of the antibiotics. It means that the next round of cicadas will avoid people. I know. Well, maybe avoid them to the point where you can't hear them.

That would be nice, right? No, they're too loud. Anyway, the point is, this is an important philosophical question because a lot of people who only care about care and fairness would be like, oh, you've got to free the butterfly. Because butterflies are pretty and spiders are gross and nasty. Ew, icky. So it's a very childish way of looking at things.

Sure. I mean, spiders, I actually like spiders better than butterflies. Almost superficial. I would catch the butterfly and throw it in the spider's web. Oh, okay. I'm kidding. It seems like superficial, like this idea of fairness. I mean, obviously, if someone's starving, it's not superficial. But it kind of is.

I mean, it's not, obviously, because when it comes to a human's life and a human's death, that's not superficial. Let's stop for a second. Ian, you mentioned the sandwich thing, right? Yeah. All right. So one person's starving and one person's not starving. Why is the person starving? Exactly.

So what if the person's starving because he's the person starving exactly so so so what if the person's starving because he's been sleeping all day right and he doesn't work and he's a misanthrope and the other guy who's not starving made the sandwich and he's not starving because he makes sandwiches and then what you take it away from him and give to somebody who's not contributing this is a big challenge we face because as you mentioned ian you would save me from the giant spider i would I would. Bless your heart. However, there's big questions about that because humans obviously want to save humans because we're all humans. We care about each other.

But then our natural tendency to save each other results in people who are a drain on the system being saved. It's really interesting. I was talking to – Some of us dysgenics at the – yeah. Yeah, I was talking to – I can't remember who it was. It might have been Daniel about chickens. Yes. And I think he was mentioning that the roosters kill the baby roosters. Yeah, he's the expert. Yeah, I was talking to, I can't remember who it was, it might have been Daniel, about chickens. Yes. And I think he was mentioning that the roosters kill the baby roosters.

Yeah, he's the expert. Yeah, yeah, he was saying, like, they cull the weak. Wow. If the rooster sees a weak chick, it'll just mutilate it. That metal. Yeah, super metal. And it's like, because the idea is, it's trying to make sure that the flock stays strong. We don't do that anymore.

We coddle the weak. Anymore? Yeah, we used to. Well, I mean, like, well, look at Sparta, war. that the flock stays strong we don't do that anymore we coddle the week anymore yeah well i mean like yes well look at sparta war i mean just in general we didn't have the social systems to take care of people the way that we did i mean also we didn't have the medicine so it's like you know darwinism if you screwed up you were going to die but now medicine and technology and society in general has advanced to the point where we are able to keep the people who would have been killed off long ago just around. Idiocracy. Yes.

So you guys have seen Idiocracy, right? Only parts of it. So Mike Judge, genius. It's where they state in the beginning of the movie it used to be the strongest would survive, but because of human technology now those who reproduced the most were being rewarded by evolution. And I think what he missed in that, sort, I mean, obviously, the idea is that stupid people reproduce more than the smarter people. Which is true. But what he missed also was just in general people with a variety of ailments and weaknesses. And, you know, I mean, no disrespect because, I mean, people want to live.

You know what I mean? I get that. We're humans. We care about each other. So that's that's a really there's a very important philosophical question that gets it into a very into very dangerous territory. But I think so long as you maintain libertarian values and just say, look, I'll do my thing. You do yours. We're probably better off. But there's a very deep philosophical question there. If you see somebody who is like, their leg is broken, and there's like a wolf running towards them, do you say, oh, well, you know, the strong must survive, or do you help save the person? If

the person's got like a genetic deformity in their leg and a wolf is running, do you say, oh, well, the strong survive, or do you save the person? Humans, I think, and this is good, default towards saving people. And it's unfortunate for us because in the long term, it will probably have a negative impact to a certain degree. Well, and it's not just us because in the long term it's it's will probably have a negative impact to a certain degree well and it's not it's not just that it

is like you were saying about idiocracy the fact that not only are we trying to save everybody but it's almost like the the people who are the smartest and who would have potentially the most to contribute they tend toward nihilism nowadays because of you know economy politics lack of spirituality whatever and they're less likely to reproduce. So then that is dysgenic. It's like if you look at women, the more educated a woman is, the less likely she is to have children and the fewer children she is. So it's not looking great for the long-term survival of our species. Yeah. And I think what ends up happening is you're going to get people who are very powerful, wealthy industrialists who are going to use their influence and power to say,

you know what, we're going to intervene and we're going to force humans to do something. I mean, you look at how we treat hogs and deer when they get overpopulated. Humans have no problem getting in a helicopter with some high powered rifles and then hunting down those hogs. They do this legit crazy. When there's like an overpopulation of feral hogs, they go and they cull them. They do the same thing with deer. We have deer season for a reason. Too many of them. And then we get turkey season.

Too many of them. Humans. Nobody culls humans, except for other humans in war. Well, I mean, I don't want to go down a whole rabbit hole, but there are people who think that there are a lot of abortion providers who go to places specifically like africa um and you know not just birth control but actual abortions i mean there's an argument to be made that is in in a way especially if you ascribe to the pro-life mentality that is a form of calling it you're saying there's too many of you you can't survive you're breeding at too fast a rate we need to nip this in the bud it's creepy yeah there's no i don't i think humans and it's not just in like developing

countries you can make the same argument like the majority of abortion providers are in you know lower income neighborhoods yeah in minority areas in minority areas that's creepy it's creepy this conversation is like so it's impossible i think humans are just screwed basically. What you said was the most one of the most interesting things I've heard in a long time is that we we used the week used to die off young. And so the strong would breed and our evolution was strong. And now the weak are kept around with medicine and are breeding. And so our species is potentially seeing that side effect now. And it results in fascism. And all sorts of crazy deformities within our race.

It results in strong men, authoritarian, fascistic leaders who are like, I'm going to kill these people. And that's the creepy thing. I think that's why space travel is probably our best approach. We as humans, we can't tolerate the idea of just deciding who gets to live or die by some person's choice, because an individual will never be smart enough to understand, you know, a decentralized network is infinitely better, but through technology, more people are surviving, even people who normally wouldn't. What do we do? I think space travel, space colonization, rapid acceleration of technology is probably the best approach, because we certainly want to do everything to stop fascists. But this is a real philosophical

challenge. And you'll get the scary thing is people who don't care about technology, many of these leftists who are saying space travel is a waste of time, bring the money back to Earth because they don't realize the money was spent here in the first place because they're not literally shipping money to Mars. Like when you hire someone to build a spaceship, you pay them on Earth and then they go and work and they buy food. Anyway, I digress. These people are ideologically driven and it's creepy.

Like when Greta Thunberg, I think genuinely she is a tool of an authoritarian fascistic ideology because she said she wanted to shut down fossil fuels now, which would result, I think, in like 60 million deaths in a few weeks. No joke, because starvation and all diabetics would immediately die. If we lost access to refrigeration and electricity overnight because of shutting down of coal power plants,

hundreds of like, I don't know how many diabetics there are, but they need insulin to be refrigerated. We had the power go out the other day. Refrigerator's gone. Like food spoils. Just like that. And so we had to set the generator up. We have the batteries. And we're hoping to keep our refrigerator going. Heaven forbid you actually rely on that like diabetics do. So when Greta Thunberg comes out, it's really fascinating.

She's this big climate change activist. A lot of these climate change people are very much apocalyptic. We've got nine years to solve this problem. Think about how scary that is, what they're really saying. There are too many people. They are using too much. And we have nine years to figure it out. Or else what?

Yeah, so what's the... And then they talk about a great reset, changing capitalism. Well, for one thing, I think it's kind of great that people are adopting van life, like millennials are hopping in vans and cruising and enjoying life more and just chilling. People for too long were getting their happiness out of things. Nah, man, you want to sit on the beach with a dog and look at the stars. That's the way to do it. And that's better for the planet and everything.

But then when you hear these people like Greta Thunberg, and it's not just her, AOC, getting rid of fossil fuels, shutting it all down, like that would kill a lot of people very quickly. Now, maybe they don't realize that, but somebody certainly does. And they're getting their talking points from somewhere. Maybe it's a natural emergence. We see the crisis in environmentalism from insect die-offs to dead zones in the ocean to, you know, massive droughts, whatever you want to call it, and then people react and say we must do something, what they're proposing doing would kill a lot of people. No, it definitely is. And I think there are people that are okay with it.

And there are people that think it might actually be a good thing. But I think a lot of the people who are making those decisions are assuming that they will be in the class or group of people who will be saved and who will be in power controlling everything. Do you ever watch that show Sliders? No. You've seen Sliders? Yeah, only a couple of times, though.

I loved it. I've never even heard of that. Really? It was awesome. Yeah. It's from the 90s. It was shifted or something. That might be why I avoid time travel.

It's not time travel. It's from the 90s, and it's Jerry O'Connell's in it. Yeah. And he invents a – well, he doesn't really invent it. His alternate reality guy helps him solve it. Oh, nice. But he ends up inventing this portal gun that opens up portals to other dimensions. So the show is like, for the most part, they go to a different Earth, and things are slightly different.

There was one where they go to this version of Earth, and the ATM machines will give you however much money you want. Just prints – like you can walk up to an ATM ATM and it'll be like, pick your number. And so they're like getting all excited and they're getting thousands of dollars like this is this is crazy. What is this place? And they're spending money. And as they do it, people keep saying like, you're you're so amazing. Thank you so much.

And there's like, sure, like whatever. And they're spending this money because what it really was, was every dollar was a lottery ticket for your execution. So in this episode, like, the world was they kept the population number down by giving you the choice to pull money out of an ATM. Unlimited. But the more you pulled, the more likely you were to get executed. And they celebrated it. So it's like, you won the lottery.

And they're like, oh. And then they were like, thank you so much for what you're doing. And then, wow. Yep. Wow, dystopian. Cool show. Show kind of went off the rails. Kind of dark.

What happened to it? I don't know. It just got weird. I loved it. But it was like not on a time slot I could watch. Dude, that's awesome. That's terrifying but kind of an awesome way to look at money. Talk about frugality. Yeah. Yeah i i'm not a fan of i i guess i guess the thing is you get a choice you're not a fan of death lotteries no no not a fan yeah not a fan of printing massive

amounts of money and hoping that we all survive we're in trouble though i think so i i mean some people say that overpopulation won't happen that that we're not overpopulated, and there will be an equilibrium, a natural equilibrium would occur. Like the Black Plague of 1280? Well, that's the real equilibrium that high population density will result in some kind of plague or something. I mean, we just saw COVID. But we've also got this technology. You know, we prevent these things from happening. We have defeated much of

the threats against us. So what's going to happen is humans are going to keep expanding. But the technology also has created ways for us to destroy ourselves in mass dose like you saw in Hiroshima. Or even just things like obesity. As we've become more prosperous, we're actually now eating

ourselves to death in large numbers. And you see that in now China. You never used to see, you know, fat people in mainland China. But now there's a growing middle class. And with that prosperity comes chubby little children. So we're creating a plague, which is called obesity. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Through our prosperity. So is the Great Reset a good thing? No. Why not? Because the people who are controlling it are doing it with nefarious purposes. So I'm not against the idea of a societal reset, so to speak, a changing of the paradigm or whatever. I agree with Michael Malice, national divorce. Some people would call that a reset.

But when we talk about the whole build back better UN agenda, whatever, if you're into Alex Jones, I mean that's referring to a specific number and group of people with a specific agenda. The Great Reset is real. The World Economic Forum has proposed it. They're very woke. The Davos group wants these things to happen. These people are very much concerned about climate change and very much so they want people to stop consuming, to eat the bugs and to live in vans. So this is the interesting thing about the Great Reset. I see a lot of people say, I will not eat the bugs. I will not live in the pod. So this is the interesting thing about The Great Reset.

I see a lot of people say, I will not eat the bugs, I will not live in the pod. I'll eat the bugs, I won't live in the pod. Yeah, there you go. I'm okay with the bugs. I'll eat the bugs and live in the pod. If you get to choose the pod. I'm pro-pod choice.

Yeah, if you want to. Pro-pod choice. No, I mean, I think about like, I'd love to just have like a tiny house like by a river or go fishing and just and you know be responsible for myself and uh i have no issue with eating bugs other than they have to be farmed properly and not really parasites so don't eat bugs off the ground the media telling people to eat bugs that's the craziest thing we bought cricket powder oh that's the the camera's blinking mine cricket powder. Oh, that's the camera. Is yours blinking? Mine's blinking, too.

They're about to shut off because they're not plugged in. Yeah. Let me see if I can do it. You guys. All right. Continue our conversation. So this is now the Lauren Chen show. That's right.

She's taking over. Okay, Lauren, if you had to eat a bug, what would your favorite bug be? It would be something crunchy. I've thought about this before because I used to watch. You guys know Bear Grylls, right? He's that adventure guy. Huge fan of his. And I've watched a lot of shows and i feel like you you want to go crunchy not slimy it stopped beeping and uh i also don't get why so many people when they do like bug eating challenges

or they talk about it they don't cook the bug i would cook the bug like just treat it like regular food cook it clean it like prepare it how would you how would you cook it would you add i mean in china they and like thailand they do like a deep fry thing with bugs my dad he's had uh like deep fried silkworms and i mean that's like a slimy thing so i still wouldn't want to do it but i feel like you could make bugs palatable oh i'm sure yeah we got cricket powder yeah tim just got a bunch of it actually i try it i try i'm gonna make some bread with it we're gonna make cricket bread it's gonna be a mix because there's not enough powder to make a big five-cup loaf. And there's no gluten in it.

Yeah. It's just gritty, ground up crickets. So add the gluten, make it sticky. Yeah, it's going to be good. But we have the high-gluten flour, so we'll just do a little bit, maybe help bond or something. Right. You can make cookies really easily because you don't need a lot of – Cricket cookies.

Yeah. There's a bunch of recipes for that. I tried a gluten-free muffin one time, and it was like a dandelion like you know you blow and just like crumbles in the air yeah no gluten you want the gluten if you can have it i got no problem eating bugs i i i just think when i see the media it's really creepy when all of these news outlets pop up with the same story like go eat the cicadas and it's like no no no no did you guys see the story about the dude who ate the slug and then got paralyzed and then died no no rugby player oh don't eat bugs off the ground man it's like if you want people are like you can't eat you

there's an article from nbc it said don't hug you and kiss your chickens and i'm like yeah no it's okay to eat the cicadas right what that's the craziest thing they're like if you hug and kiss your chickens you could get salmonella or whatever and i'm like, yeah, no duh. But it's okay to eat the cicadas? Right. What? That's the craziest thing. They're like, if you hug and kiss your chickens, you could get salmonella or whatever. And I'm like, dude, we have chickens. I will pet them. And then I go and I wash twice. Yeah. Well, I think the issue is a lot of people conflate nature with safe and healthy, which if you've spent any number, like amount of time in nature, you know, it's not the case.

It's the opposite. I mean, yeah. I mean, I think people live in this idea where like, yeah, you can just like go into the forest, eat whatever, drink from a stream. And it's like, no, you can't do that. You will die very quickly if you try. This is the weirdest thing. There's a lot of contradictory things I see in the culture war, right?

You would think the conservatives would be the ones saying to eat the bugs and live in the pods. You know why? It's like hardier. Hardcore survivalists, too. Yeah. You know why? It's like heartier. Hardcore survivalist, too. Yeah, it's tougher. It's more self-reliant. It's stronger.

Like, the way I look at it, eating bugs, I'm like, dude, I'll do what I have to do to survive. Me, too. I would do well in the apocalypse. I'll eat anything. I'm scrappy. Yeah, exactly.

Grass. I'm sure we can. You can't eat grass. You gotta boil it. Season it. Drink the tea. It. I'm sure we can. You can't eat grass. You gotta boil it. Season it. Drink the tea. You're not... It's a lot of wasted energy. Magnesium. I've been down this road Ian. Let's go down it again, Tim.

You can boil grass. There's some stuff in it, but a human will not get enough energy out of it. So if you have to, you can maybe make a kind of tea. It would be like a supplement, yeah. It's like even the same with rabbits, I think. There's not enough fat on them. So it's like when sailors... Rabbit starvation. They would know, okay, well, we need some fat.

Shouldn't conservatives be the ones who are like, if I had to, I will live in a pod? Not like a government-mandated pod they shove you in, but like you build your own hut in the middle of the woods. Well, that's the thing. I think a lot of conservatives do have the equivalent of bug-out pods, and they probably do have like the MREs, which, you know, survival food, which maybe has bug in it. Probably. Probably. But I think the idea is that like they don't think it's necessary and there are these big government people who are telling you to live in a pod so they can live in excess. Right. You know, there's a meme.

It's really funny. They were like, it's a liberal saying we've got 10 years until climate change destroys the world. And the conservative says, so what are you doing about it and they're like getting an arts degree living in a big city and not preparing and trying to get guns banned yeah it's like you certainly don't think the end is nigh you're saying that i don't know if i believe you that's that's the funniest thing it's like that i'm sorry i would never take the bet if there was a liberal and a conservative and it was like okay we're we're going to put them both in the woods. Who survives?

I'm like every hour of the day, every day of the week, I'm betting on the conservative to survive. Even if it's like a 55-year-old, big pot-bellied, old conservative guy with a Confederate flag shirt, I'd be like, I still think he's going to win. That guy's going to know how to grow possum, man. That liberal guy is going to write a book on a bark or something the occasional hippie that eats like grubs that doesn't eat very much and it's super skinny that guy's usually pretty liberal comes from like eating seeds yeah yeah doesn't need much energy to survive so to be fair the leftists will uh the average leftist will probably starve because they're going to try and take food from each other a certain sect of libertarian leftists will do just fine because they're probably just sitting, you know, playing their guitar like stoned anyway.

And they're sharing, just eating what they can, eating grubs and bugs. Then the conservatives are, you know, chopping down the trees. Well, I think a big difference between who would and would not survive that also intersects politically is urban versus rural. Yeah. Right. and that's a big divide politically urban people tend to be overwhelmingly leftist and i mean you can tell in their policies if you if you look at how you know they are concerned for things like over population and climate change and just pollution in general i'm not saying that those aren't concerns but i think just looking at the environments that they live in cities that

are dirty and overcrowded if you go to the country i think you're much more likely to feel like you are kind of living closer to nature and you're just frankly more likely to have those survival skills i mean you have city people who probably i don't know i've never been camping never made a fire by themselves of course if if the shiz hit the fan they wouldn't survive that is fascinating to think that the people that live in cities are obsessed with climate change because they're breathing in brake dust and carbon monoxide. They're causing it. Yeah, and they're affected by it.

Like people in the country aren't affected by it. Yep. So they don't think about it. The pollution in some of these Chinese cities, it's nuts where they have like the big TV screen that looks like sunlight because it's all smog. Los Angeles, smog problem. San Francisco has a smog. No, they have a poop problem. The people who live in these areas are like,

look at all these problems. Like, bro, stop living in a concrete cubicle in a city that's covered in poop. Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing with their concerns about things like wealth inequality and stuff like that. The people who are most concerned with wealth inequality come from L.A. and New York, and that's because they are living in the places with the millionaires and the homeless people.

Like, if you go to the rest of the country, not to say there aren't still rich and poor people, but it's a lot more equitable. It's just these people in these urban coastal centers, they think their little bubble is representative of the entire country. Peaceful divorce. Yes. All of these cities should be free and independent and they can form

an archipelago alliance. Actually, one of my friends, he was saying that he's from california he doesn't want to give up california but so his his solution was not like full succession but it's like there can be like little city state protectorates within the greater america and they can have like they could pay for uh utilities and like national defense and then they'd collapse in two seconds yeah because they they survive off stealing resources la only la uh i shouldn't say only exists but mostly exists because they're

getting the colorado river water and if at any point count like their jurisdictions to the east of la they could just be like nope shut it off yes city states seem to fall apart with the invention of gunpowder i don't know exactly when they started fading away but i mean the vatican i think still is a city-state. Well, even you have the UAE, the United Arab Emirates with, like, Dubai and Abu Dhabi. I mean, I'm not super well-versed on how they're doing, but I think, in essence, they operate similarly

to that. It used to be walls would protect the giant citadel, and you couldn't get in, but then the gunpowder, you could break down the walls. Then, of course, air power. Well, fun fact, Quebec City in Canada is, like, the only walled city in North America. Really? Yeah.

Wow. That's cool. It's like walled? It's walled. But not the entire city. I can't. Like a portion of the middle? At one point, it used to be.

I don't know if it is all still up, but we went there for my birthday a couple years ago. Wall Street in New York was a big giant wall. Yeah, it was the big wall back in the day. Yeah, so I want to go back to this point about climate change and survival and stuff because when I think about, we just talked a lot about liberals not being able to survive the wilderness, which is mostly the truth.

There's probably some liberals who know what they're doing, I guess. You see them naked in a Fred. What's that? Oh, it's a show where they take two people, get them naked, and then drop them in the woods. Oh, no. Really?

It's crazy. And you get the occasional liberal dude that just doesn't eat very much. Yeah. Well, I've occasional liberal dude that just doesn't eat very much. Yeah. Well, I've heard people talk about shows like that and they've put vegans on and they end up having to eat a bug or something just because it's easy, it's fast, you need the protein. Did you ever see that one show where they have two islands, one with only men, one with only women?

No. And then the women start fighting with each other and they can't get anything done. And then one expedition group gets lost and starts panicking because they can't find their way back. And then meanwhile on the dude island, they have their own bar that's already built, and they're distilling alcohol and coconuts. And then the women come to the men's island and start saying, give us stuff and give us resources. Well, I have this evolutionary theory that is backed up by nothing.

Just my opinion. But have you noticed that women don't work well together generally there's like the whole queen beat lydia probably knows yes i work you know what yeah and i think the reason why that is is because men have an evolutionary drive to work together for things like hunting but if you look at traditionally like like way back before we had societies, women did not really have much incentive to partner with other women, right? Because your child rearing was usually your own family members, other females. You wouldn't share those responsibilities with females who weren't related to you. Whereas if you were a man, you would go hunting with all the other village men.

It's not the same for women. That's a good point. Yeah, so the woman was looking towards the man who was going to kill the bear and, you know, bring the food back. And the man was looking for people who could partner with him to go and bring the food back. Right, and actually, evolutionary speaking, if you're a woman, you do have an incentive to view all other women as competitors

for your man and his chunk of bear meat. I agree, but from my understanding understanding women tend to be more bisexual than men because they had to cooperate with other women because of polygamy you'd have more than one wife so you needed to cooperate with other women so i don't know you go either way on that one but you're probably right yeah i don't know like like i said this is not based on science like at all just my opinion it's weird how that manifests in modern politics. So it reminds me of people have mentioned the rat utopia experiment, I think it was. It was a mouse utopia.

Yeah. Yeah, they created a utopia where the mice were free to just do whatever they want. They had unlimited food and, you know, but a finite space. And then eventually they reached this population maximum where they stopped reproducing. They started becoming more, you know, becoming more homosexual or like atypical. So like San Francisco. Maybe. I mean, maybe these things are emerging society because we've reached the epitome of wealth and survival.

Yeah. So, I mean, if you think about it, there were reactions to deviations from social norms that were very severe. Like women who worked were witches and did meth because women needed to have babies. Otherwise, you were on the verge of collapse. Now we have so much that we don't need everybody to be having families, technically. Like, humanity's not going to go extinct because people aren't having babies.

In fact, it's the other way around. Or even within your own family, you no longer need to have seven in the hopes that, like, three or four make it to adulthood. You can pretty much be guaranteed that they're all going to survive. So now there's no threat to society for deviations of social norms. So people stopped caring. And this is another point I've heard. I don't know to the extent of which it's factually correct. Ask a historian. When I was reading about the end of slavery, notably in the UK, it started there because of industrialization.

It wasn't this great moral awakening of these European countries. You didn't need it. It was actually cheaper to get the machine to do it. And so then all of a sudden, they were like, people stopped supporting it because it wasn't benefiting them as much anymore. And as the support faded, they just said, OK, we're done with it. I think the UK just paid. They paid the people who had slaves and said, okay, we're done with it. I think the UK just paid. They paid the people who had slaves and said, okay, we're done. In the US, though, it was very different because it's a very, very large country

trying to enforce laws across the whole country. In the northern areas that were industrializing, they were like, nobody really needs it anymore. So then they start voting against it. In the southern states where it was less developed, they were demanding the right to keep slaves. So the point I'm trying to make is don't give people credit for having a great moral awakening. It was just as soon as it doesn't benefit people anymore,

then all of a sudden they're willing to let go because there's better paths towards wealth. It's kind of creepy if you think about it, the way humans are. Yeah. I mean, and also we were talking about democracy and, like, now that we bring up slavery, that is one of the other reasons why I don't think democracy is a good way to judge a society's morality i mean if you look at where most of people most of society's moral compass would have been during the slavery era most people were white most people were fine with it does that mean that it was therefore moral for people to keep slaves i mean right because they were the minority and everyone else thought it was fine. No, it does not. Yeah, not cool.

But so many different cultures have functioned in basically the same way. It's like a human universal. I think people – I'm fairly – I don't want to say I'm optimistic or pessimistic. I guess I'm very nihilistic or neutral when it comes to trusting humans' intentions. I think people are very self-interested. Yes. I think they can have empathy, but I think, like, learning about that, that's one of the biggest drivers of ending slavery was just they were making money doing other things. So it was not caring.

It was a lack of caring. All of a sudden they weren't threatened to lose their slaves, and they were making money doing other things, so they said, I don't care, whatever, do whatever you want. And it was probably a risk to hold slaves. You know, if you could have a machine that did it for you or you could have slaves that might end up murdering you or running away and causing violence. So there's less of a threat. You know, humans change. Evolution is a result of necessity for the most part, not because it's morally just.

It's just how it's pretty much been throughout the ages. Well, I mean, interesting addition to this conversation that could also apply to automation now right i mean it's the same thing with your cashier that you see at the checkout of a grocery store or at a restaurant that's why a lot of people are saying just like maybe they did slavery industrialization it's cheaper to automate so now you no longer have a lot of those like hourly workers you just have your little self-service scan thing or kiosk where you put in the order. Yeah. Nobody wants to work. But it's more than just the kiosks.

It's a lot of other. The big problem there is we're not talking about forced labor. We're talking about parts of the economy that are being automated. And then people don't have work, can't get money. This, I think, is one of the reasons we see the rise of socialists. This problem emerges where people, through no real fault of their own, there's a lot of people who don't want to work. It's their fault. There's a lot of people who got automated out of the workplace. And then what do they get told? Learn to code. Not automated or even just technology

displaced them. And they get told, learn to code. Ain't it going to work? So what do you do? Well, we can't just be Luddites and be like, like okay we're banning technology because people need jobs that's stupid it's supposed to make things easier but here's the problem if we start giving these people money like ubi what do you tell the farmer who has to work right well they the people who live in the cities it's it's this way right now people in new york well at least before the pandemic working for media companies are getting paid 3030,000, $40,000, $50,000 to write garbage trash articles about nonsense. Meanwhile, people are getting paid minimum wage to pick fruit on a farm. So how does that make sense?

By the left zone standard, they should not be getting that level of pay for what they do. That's going to be a big problem when we start, when we create UBI, or if Andrew Yang gets his way in New York City and tries doing some kind of UBI. You mean you're going to have someone who lives in New York City, of all places, one of the wealthiest places on the planet, getting free money to buy the apples that I pick for dirt wages? I'll just move to New York City. Get free money.

Why bother? Yeah, I don't like the job economy thing. The Federal Reserve is obsessed with creating employment for everyone. city get free money yeah why bother yeah i don't like the job economy thing the the federal reserve is obsessed with creating job creating employment for everyone they want you to dig a hole and they want you to fill the hole back up and then they're going to loan you money for it and then expect you to pay pay them back with interest so they keep everyone busy and you can see as we're automating that that doesn't work people don't have things to do and creating, you know, random things that don't benefit society doesn't solve that problem. Well, I think we saw a lot of that kind of

rhetoric from Joe Biden's recent like joint session speech, the State of the Union, which we're not calling the State of the Union. But anyway, the idea that, yeah, the government will just make jobs for people to have jobs. But I think the whole problem ultimately is that labor is and is not a commodity, right? It's a commodity in that it responds to supply and demand, but it's not a commodity in the, you know, if you have too many widgets sitting on the shelves, you just stop producing widgets for a while and then eventually you'll sell the ones that were overstocked. That's not true with labor. You have unemployment.

People get restless. They need to be fed and things like that. And they riot. And they riot. So I think the problem why this automation is happening at the rate it is, it's A, people are campaigning for high minimum wages, which just makes automation cheaper. And then B, you also have an immigration system that is welcoming in low skilled workers who are competing for jobs that really the people who have those jobs are already in an extremely vulnerable position. So it's just a bad, a bad situation all around. Maybe we just need, you know, an individual of, of, of intelligence and merit to just rise up naturally and gain power through the competitive

system. Maybe somebody who understands computers because of – someone who's a computer developer of some sort. Like Bill Gates. And then he can start deciding what's best for us. Yeah. Like a technocrat. Like a technocrat. I'm kidding, by the way.

Maybe like a dictator. Oh, yeah. Like an artificial – no, more like Bill Gates. Did I say that already? Like Bill Gates. Yeah, he's not a doctor, but he's got a lot of medical advice for us. Do we need like an AI that don't... I don't want an AI government, but I would like an AI advisor for our government.

No, but the thing is, an AI advisor would be, I think, completely utilitarian. We would not, as human beings, be comfortable with what they recommend or what it recommends. I don't know. Yeah, they'd be like, hello, Ian. You must die today because it will save three children. I disagree. Maybe we could have like 90 artificial intelligence advisors. This is one of the biggest challenges with self-driving cars.

Someone has to program in the car. If you're driving in your car and an old lady walks out in front of you, the car has to choose. Do I crash the car, killing the driver, or hit an old lady walks out in front of you the car has to choose do i crash the car killing the driver or hit the old lady someone's got to program that yeah and those those are deep philosophical questions that i think even as humans we don't understand and we need to have debates about which we aren't really doing right now we're kind of just like kicking the can down the road but i don't expect a machine to do it. If you were driving and the car was like, Ian, will you die to save her?

As you're like, I don't have time to think about that. Could you imagine like, so you mentioned that AI would be utilitarian, but I think it's the only thing it possibly could be. How could there be an AI that was deontological in that it would say- Some sort of Catholic AI? I don't know. No, but imagine it's like like it has to save everybody, but it's not possible. So it's like

imagine you're in this scenario where the car is driving and the old lady... Let's say something happens through... It's a no-fault scenario. No one is at fault. Just something happens. Avalanche. No, no. There's got to be two people that... It's a zero-sum game where

one person lives, one person dies. The AI, if it was deontological, it could not commit an immoral act against any individual. So it would recognize one person's going to die no matter what. I don't know which one. So you have to let both die in that case because otherwise you'd be making a choice that would lead to someone else's death. Yeah, I guess it would let the five people die on the trolley. Yeah, exactly. Instead of the one. The utilitarian would let the one person die. Yeah, I would let the five people die on the trolley yeah exactly instead of the one the utilitarian would let the one person die yeah i would let the one person die

and it's like my husband he's catholic and he studies philosophy and he often tells me that i'm too utilitarian because he is you know deontological like that whereas i'm i'm i like to think of it as pragmatism what's the difference between deontological and utilitarian? Oh, my gosh. So this is where Liam would come in handy. And it's funny because he's explained this to me so many times, but I tend to tune out when he talks. I'll oversimplify it for you. Spock is utilitarian, and Captain America is a deontologist. It's very simple.

Spock said the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Captain America says we don't trade lives. Right. Yes. That is good. Deontological is more like The idea that an immoral act against an individual You are barred from doing such The ends do not justify the means, I guess

Right on Which the bad guys tend to be utilitarian I guess in the instance of Spock he wasn't But that's, I'm not a fan of utilitarianism It's where, like There's, the problem with it is that You start, it's very much like the equity argument. You start trying to decide what about someone is worth more than something else.

Well, I mean, not to bring up the Avengers, but that's why Thanos was in favor of the Infinity Stones, just randomly selecting half the people because he believed the world was over, or the universe was overpopulated. What an idiot. He was really dumb. Yeah, the book made him better. He was trying to please a woman did you read the comic well he was trying to please that's mistress death yeah he wanted he wanted to love him i like the that's the movie thing is more point right right that's the movie is updated and it was originally uh yeah he's utilitarian he says kill half of the universe to protect the other half but and then

what a few generations you're back to where you started? It's a terrible idea. And someone, I saw someone else, there was a meme where they're like, why didn't he just double the amount of resources by snapping his fingers? Yeah.

Because he's a bad guy. Good question. Because he was trying to, because he wanted to, Mr. Steph, that was mine. That was what I learned. Here's my issue

with the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. You know, the equity thing, right? They say, oh, this person is more deserving than that person for this reason. You mentioned it with the sandwich right? They say, oh, this person is more deserving than that person for this reason. You mentioned it with the sandwich. Yes. The child's view, the child who

has no experience, no wisdom, sees a hungry person and a well-fed person and says, give the sandwich to the hungry person. And what the wise person says is, well, hold on. Why is this person starving? And why is this person well fed who made the sandwich there's a lot more questions than just i'm going to give it to you so when it comes to utilitarianism here's here's here's here's the version of the trolley problem i have a first you know the trolley problem trolley problem right there's a trolley going on track and you have the switch and you have to decide if it's going to go down the track and kill one person or go to this track and kill five or something like that.

There is a trolley heading down a track with five people on it. It will hit and kill all five people. You can pull a lever to switch the track with only one person on it. The act of switching the lever condemns the one person who was safe to begin with. Would you kill that one person by your choice who was safe to save five people so the darker side of me says who is that person but and who are the other five but i mean just philosophically speaking i would okay now here's now here's the bigger question there's a bunch of iterations of the trolley problem let's try it let's try it ian

what would you do would you let the trolley kill the five people or would you choose to kill the person who lives? No, no. If I had a split-second decision, I would kill one instead of five. I would have to make that decision. So that means that one person who would have normally lived,

you are choosing to kill them to save those five. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Now let's say the one person has the cure for cancer. Exactly.

That's the problem. And you know it. And you know it. Oh. I'd kill the five. You'd let the five die. Yeah. See, that's where things become problematic with utilitarianism.

You, now let's play another game. The five people are critical race theorists, and the one person is Jordan Peterson. I love Jordan Peterson. So you're saying the five have the cancer and the one has the cure. No, no. What I'm saying is there's five prominent critical race theorists and one prominent you know anti i feel like i can't answer this without people calling me a murderous extremist right because of and the crazy thing this is what the government does this is their job okay okay okay

all right let's do this who dies let's let's take it out of american politics okay it's uh uh there's five supporters of vladimir putin and no this doesn't this doesn't work uh yeah wait wait hold on okay yeah five supporters of vladimir putin and one opposition activist who's prominent save the one you'd save the one so the issue is now you're making moral judgments over whose life is based on your subjective view of what is right and what is wrong that's the problem with utilitarianism and they'll do like there, there's, you know, they'll say like, I don't like saying black and white people, but let's just, for whatever reason, there's, there's 10 black people that, and by, by the numbers say that they make less money.

So, but then there's five white people and the numbers say they make more money. So where are we going to send the money? We're going to send it to these 10 black people. But you find out later, these 10 black people have make way more money than these five white people. They were just going by the numbers in the book and making these these capital gains and not by you know hours worked but i mean i understand the criticism that you through utilitarianism you're necessarily like putting your moral values onto the situation but

i guess like in business they say even making no decision is making a decision so i my response to that would be that it's impossible from like an ontological perspective to avoid that most people i think most people say they wouldn't pull the lever they would ignore it just they don't want anything to do with it because you are choosing so right now the five people on the on the track they're in that circumstance having nothing to do with you if you intervene you make the choice to kill someone. So most people say, I wouldn't get involved. But it's essentially whether the ends justify the means. In the scenario, if you kill someone, essentially you make the choice to pull that lever.

It does end with five people being alive versus five people being dead. So you both said you'd pull the lever to save the five right yeah what if it's five 80 year olds and one baby i pull the lever or sorry like i kill the 80 year olds so you don't pull the lever yeah i don't in that circumstance you let them die yeah so that's the problem with utilitarianism you have a personal subjective moral view on who should live or die and it's sometimes again i don't think that's a problem of utilitarianism versus just an aspect of any philosophical grounding yeah yeah it's like it's based on um what do they call it when like you get you get the numbers of how many people live in this demographics it's based on like demographic you know book numbers in a book like they don't

know who needs what but they're giving it to people based on what they read. I guess my view of utilitarianism is that you are accepting the fact that losses or deaths will happen and then you approach the problem in order to minimize the losses and maximize the gain. So I approach it almost like business. You guys have seen all the memes that have

popped up about the trolley problem? Yeah. My favorite one is it's one single track with a ton of people. Yeah, I've seen that lately. And it says you can stop the trolley problem. Yeah. My favorite one is it's one single track with a ton of people just getting crushed. Yeah, I've seen that lately. And it says, you can stop the trolley at any time, but it would cause a loss of corporate profits.

Like people are getting run over. Oh my gosh. It's like that... It's funny because there's corporations that function that way. Like that Monsters, Inc. meme, like I'd let a thousand children

die before I let this company burn or go under whatever yeah man so these are these are the tough questions we're getting into now with uh technology ai with the great reset with climate change with health care even if you're especially canadian or coming from the nhs system there are calls that need to be made and like there's limited resources to go around yeah i love how these leftists tweet that there are no there's no such thing as scarcity there was a story about some kid in like alabama or something there he needed gene therapy that would cure his disease and it was like a

million dollars and the state was like we can't pay that sorry and then people were complaining like you have to pay it you otherwise he dies like you have no choice and they were like it's a million dollars and they're like what's the value of a life and it's like yeah but we don't have it like we can tax everybody i guess what's the cost of a human life um there's there's actual numbers you can look up in terms of how the market values human life yep i think it's like 180 000 something is what it's worth or what it costs yeah based on the organs that could be sold or something yeah i see that's a tough That's a tough number to figure out because what could they contribute to society?

What are they going to take away from society? Well, that's why I mean, like, life insurance proves that not everybody's life is worth the same because not everyone's going to get the same payout if they die. Also, I watch a lot of, like, murder crimes. Like, don't get life insurance if you're on rocky grounds with your spouse. Yeah. If you're fighting with your wife and she

says she wants to sign you a new life insurance policy. Yeah, I'd be skeptical. But I mean, the whole issue of scarcity is when, like you were saying, the left does not understand. And I think that's the reason why we have so many of these economic questions regarding things like minimum wage, regarding health care, that they don't want to accept that scarcity is a real thing, even regarding like the housing situation. Yep. Yeah. You know, the oil and gas industry and the copper industry has been holding us back from fusion generation and atomic printing and a land of less scarcity, if not total dissolution of scarcity. And I think the critical theorists see that.

And so they're acting as if they've already won. It applies to everything. Yeah. And it's not yet. So there's massive scarcity right now. It's severely difficult to get materials into the middle of the desert right now. Maybe that'll change one day. You know what's really crazy?

Just like because you mentioned the desert. Las Vegas is being terraformed or reclaimed. Oh, I heard that. Yeah, because they're bringing grass in. And then here's the craziest thing. You know what's changing the landscape of Las Vegas more than anything else? being terraformed or reclaimed oh i heard that yeah because they're bringing grass in and then here's the craziest thing you know what's changing the landscape of las vegas more than anything else human beings go into the bathroom fertilizer they fly on planes and they have water in their systems and they land and they deposit water they bring food in with them and they bring in more water

than they take out that's interesting it's really crazy i was reading about it and they said food is the biggest contributor to the the reclamation of las vegas as well as grass they're shipping in water they're planting grass the grass helps retain moisture and they're turning a desert into like not desert that's interesting because i think they're they're trying something along china's border as well with the gobi desert to present desertification um they're planning like almost China's border as well with the Gobi Desert to prevent desertification. They're planning almost like a green wall or something to try to provide a barrier. They're doing that in the southern Sahara. They planted all these trees to stop the desert from spreading.

We've got to start just doing those projects. It's like we want to go to Mars and stuff. That's cool too, but let's also reclaim all these deserts. Yeah, that Sahara sand is ocean sand. They find seashells and stuff. It seems like it's from the Great Flood. That's why there's so much oil. Because you have all the microorganisms that kind of... Oh, interesting. Yeah, that's why there's oil.

We could put it back in the ocean. That's something I want to do. Dude, the Sahara's massive. I know. Just dig it up. Build drones that can just carry it into the ocean. It's like thousands of miles. Dump it. Just all day. What if they just dug a massive trench from the middle of the Sahara all the way to the western coast and just let the water flood it?

Like a river? Yeah. Probably. That'd be cool. New beachfront property. It's all saltwater, though. You can't really do anything with it. I don't think that's within the capabilities of human beings right now.

I mean, no, it is, but not within the willpower. That would be a great global human cause is to fix the Sahara, re-greenify the Sahara, because it used to be like a jungle, like a forest with rivers and rain. And it's the desert spreading. So it's just destroying organic matter. And then water gets ripped out and can't be held. What's spreading it? Is it the wind?

Yeah, it spreads the sand and stuff like that. Makes it harder for plants to grow. And so what's happening in Vegas is humans are rejecting it. Humans are forcing stuff to go there. We're such a part of our ecosystem. Like I was thinking of the animals that eat the fruit that carry them and then they crap out the seeds over there and then it plants the tree. And like that's we're like that's us. Isn't soil just like dead stuff?

Isn't dirt like outside just dead stuff? I think so. Yeah. It's like we just live on the cemeteries of all the billions of organisms that came before us. All that dirt? Yeah. I've got to find out because I've heard that before. What is dirt?

I'm pretty sure it's like decayed organic matter. It just like rots there and then the plants grow out of it. Just the rotting corpses of the billions of animals and bacteria and plants. And we're walking on top of it. Yeah. Wow. All right, let's see it. What is it?

All right. Is dirt dead organic matter? Dirt is dead. It has none of the minerals, nutrients, or living organisms found in soil. It is not an organized ecosystem. Look up soil. There is no topsoil or hummus or worms. Yeah, no, look up soil.

Dirt is dead and does not... Okay, I'll look up... What is soil? Yeah, like dirt's different. Dirt's like the gritty stuff on the sidewalk. You know what I mean? Sand, yeah. Is soil dead organic? So like when you walkirt's like the gritty stuff on the sidewalk. You know what I mean? Sand, yeah. It's soil. Dead.

So when you walk out into the forest, all the ground is like, that's like decaying organic matter, isn't it? Yeah, because when the trees fall or when it just stays there and then it decays. Oh, the well-decomposed organic matter in soil, the very dead, is called humus.

Humus. Yeah. I'm learning new things today. I like roasted garlic hummus. Okay. It's a different kind of hummus. Hummus. Hummus. Yeah. I'm learning new things today. I like roasted garlic hummus. Okay. It's a different kind of hummus. Some use the term hummus to describe all soil organic matter. Some use it to describe

just the part you can't see without a microscope. Interesting. I don't know. So maybe part of soil is hummus. We are standing on a mass grave of life. Yeah. And we don't even realize

we didn't care. I mean, that's also what oil is. That's what's powering most things for us. life. Yeah. And we don't even realize we didn't care. I mean, that's also what oil is. That's what's powering most things for us. Yep. Yeah. What a crazy reality. I know.

Creepy. Yeah. Let's read some Super Chats. Yes. If you haven't already, please, my friends, you must smash that like button. But I'm going to start

saying something more and more often. A lot of people say, like, what can we do? You know, we believe in the things you guys talk about. And we said yesterday with Jack, it really we do? You know, we believe in the things you guys talk about.

And we said yesterday with Jack, it really is sharing. I mean, it is. You can call it a shameless plug. Like, make sure you share the show. But think about it. If people are only getting CNN, how do we beat CNN? I mean, their ratings on TV are down, but their ratings on YouTube are massive. If people choose to take this video and put it on their Facebooks, on their Twitters, it would be exponential. If every day, every single person who watched shared, it would be an exponential growth.

It would be bigger than CNN overnight. It's really about your willingness to engage in that way. And maybe it's not my show, but Stephen Crowder or Project Veritas share all of it and tell other people to share it. Or Lauren's show. Or Lauren's show. What is your show? I'm right here. I'm shouting Crowder out.

Yeah, all right. Thanks. You can find me on YouTube, Bitchute, Rumble, Odyssey, Lauren Chen, or at the Lauren Chen on Twitter, Instagram. I try to be the same username everywhere and on all platforms. I'm so into creating a community or community in general with the internet video. You've got to share. Yeah share yeah yeah yeah and and get and work together think about this way the people who share cnn do it mindlessly yeah they see don

lemon and they just like they click in and they post here that's crazy to me how is it that that cnn is able to muster up more shares on their content than the active people who are actually paying attention and want change to happen. Probably name recognition? I think it's just because there's a lot of regular, normal people who just click the share on CNN and they're not paying attention. Well, I think it's like, it is that name recognition. It's like, oh, CNN, news, share news. Bart Simpson was put in a remedial classroom and he said, we're supposed to catch up to

them by going slower than they are. And that's what, because they were, you know. Yeah. So that means if we're on a treadmill and we're slowly moving backwards when we stand still. So we decided to just walk forward. We're staying where we are. Meanwhile, CNN's got that natural push. YouTube puts them on the front page.

Regular people know CNN. They share it. CNN gets put in movies like Iron Man and stuff. That means we've got to be running on that treadmill. Yeah, their treadmill is going slower because the algorithm is sharing it more for them so they don't have to run as hard as we do. I think we're on that path, though. I think CNN is not long for this business market.

No, because you don't get a bunch of a workout. CNN's treadmill is not moving at all, man. They just stand there. Bro, they get hundreds of millions of views per – YouTube is true. They're being propped up. How did their views dip, though, since Trump got out?

Probably, yes, on YouTube, but mostly it's TV ratings. On YouTube, it's like hundreds of millions of views. Hundreds of millions. Like four or five times what Crowder gets. You know, five or six times what we get. The weird thing about YouTube news is I can't tell the difference of what's an NBC video, what's an MSNBC, what's a CNN. When I see the thumbnail, I don't know.

I just see the face and the words and I click it or don't. Well, what's annoying about YouTube, the way their news algorithm works, is that I know, at least in Canada, the authoritative sources are things like CBC and CTV, which no one watches. Exactly. You'll be on the front page and you'll see these stories and it'll be like, published five hours ago, 2,000 views,

front page of YouTube. And it's like, okay, well that's definitely astroturf. Like, that's not organic. They're showing them favoritism. CNN's main channel, just one of their channels, it's 141 million views

in the past 30 days. They gain over 100,000 subscribers a month. We're competing with them. I wonder what their marketing budget is like for those. Crazy. This TimCast marketing budget is, I think, close to zero. Relatively zero. Yeah, yeah.

We haven't pumped $40 million a year into marketing or whatever the heck the only the only commercial we've run so far is recently on will of the people the song for no other reason than vanity i think like let's let's you know i got a song let's let's it's made to be listened to so we'll promote it i think ben uh and culture daily wire they they push tons tons good marketing very good and that has a good return marketing so we're going to start doing marketing for sure we're doing more right now it's a social media organic growth but that's why it's like look at this one thing you can do you can become a member at timcast.com because i'll tell you this the money that we get from timcast.com when you become a member and that

10 or the 25 whatever you give goes into the account for us it's going towards us hiring more people doing more shows and building more and more and. So it's not just that you are buying a membership to get access to exclusives. You're actually buying the expansion of what we do. So if you like what we do, we're not going to be – I know this is going to break your heart, Ian. We're not buying an infinity pool. I'm sad, Tim. We are going to get a hot tub. Well, now I'm happy.

But it's going to be powered by Dogecoin mining. I've heard. I'm excited. Saltwater hot going to be powered by Dogecoin, my name. I've heard. I'm excited. Saltwater hot tub? I don't know. The plan was to get a bunch of GPUs and have them mine Dogecoin so it heats the water. I hear you can get an ozone hot tub. The ozone cleans the water.

We're going to mine Dogecoin. I'm into it. And use it. To the moon, baby. The hot tub will be the cooling system. Yes, the hot tub is the coolest system. I love it. Here we go. Also, when you subscribe to this channel and Lauren's channel, be the cooling system. Yes, the hot tub is the coolest system. I love it. Also, when you subscribe to this channel and Lauren's channel, click the bell button. Yes.

Because then you'll get notified when the videos go live. And then go to the top URL bar, click control C and then go to Instagram and Facebook and Twitter and wherever you can and just paste it. And call your mom if you haven't talked to her in a while. Let's read some super chats. Alright. Stupid Spin Videos says says what's

the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth about six to twelve months that's true it's a good one dude amc hit what 28 bucks today did you see that i'm not following it no i hear sandra keeps tweeting about it she's pumped i bought some amc like literally a very very small amount because i like going to the movies and i thought that there's like i saw their stock and people were talking about it i'm like dude their stock's gonna go up when the movies come back because they're doing a bunch of releases only in theaters soon and i'm like i dude i loved one of the movies i miss it yeah it's like what like once a week every weekend it's like let's go to the movies and we then we go out for pizza or something

that was it that was the night out and they got of it. And it's not fun just turning the TV on and watching HBO Max or whatever. Boring. Yeah, boring. So we have like a big projector, but it's not the same. It's not the same. You got the good popcorn there. Yeah, and I'm only satisfied when I spend $20 on a box of Sarpatch Kids. It's true. It's gotta be expensive. $10 soda.

I like when you go into the movie when it's light out and then you come out and it's dark. Yeah. My dad, he's weird though. He He puts snacks in my purse to sneak in. You got to smuggle them in. But he's Asian, so they get increasingly complex. He gave me sauteed squid once. Wow. Dad, why?

All right. John Lee says, hey, Tim, I know you are busy with the other website and stuff, but I just want to ask, is the chicken stream going to be on the new website? And do I need to pay another membership for the new website? Timcast.com is, there's no, that's it. If you're a member at Timcast.com, you're good. All the content's going to be there. Chicken City is going to be a live YouTube channel.

And we're getting a chicken whisperer to come out to help us get it set up. Oh, yeah. And then it's just, you know, we're going to have merch. So we have seven chickens now. We had six before, but we adopted Dorothy. She's older. And so there's going to be, she probably won't be part of the crew, but we're going to do merch.

So there's going to be like a picture of, you know, like Vanessa, Margaret, Sarah, they're all, they all have names. And there'll be shirts designed based on each individual chicken. And then you can support those chickens by buying those shirts. We were trying to feed team vanessa dorothy so margaret oh it was margaret earlier yeah because she wasn't eating cicadas yeah but me and the cat were sitting right next to the chicken and the chicken was flipping out so i think that was i took buck away so when i whenever i throw in the cicadas margaret

won't she just looks at him and like pecks him a little and like gets gets scared she used to be the biggest one too and then dor, who's older than everyone, just one-shots all the cicadas. It's like Homer eating donuts. So we've got to push her back. Like, dude, you had 12 already. You're going to get sick. Let the other chickens have a go at it. But we'll begin it up soon.

There's challenges in, like, we'll use GoPros because they're waterproof-ish, but they still have to be plugged in all the time. So we'll figure it out. But we'll try and get it set up. I think in this next weekend, I think we should be getting it set up. And it's going to be a 24-7 live stream.

We need to hire a composer. We need someone who writes music so that we can get about a couple hours worth of lo-fi hip-hop beats to watch Chicken City 2 and then just have the stream going. All right. OMG Puppy says, check out the UFO debunking videos on YouTube. David Fulch shows some of them are IR images of aircraft. Thunderfoot has demonstrated some are birds and camera aperture artifacts. So what, you're saying the government is lying about aliens now? Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I feel like the government knows about stuff.

The military intelligence would probably have ways to check that. I would think so, yeah. I would think. All right. We got a two-parter here from Steven Valdez II. knows about stuff like the military intelligence would probably have ways to check that i would think all right we got two two-parter here from steven valdez the second tim what is your advice concerning cryptocurrency um i don't have any advice for you i'll tell you what i'm gonna do i love it i think there's a combination bitcoin to me is bitcoin is the only truly decentralized you know gold value system everything else is a company you know, gold value system. Everything else is a company, you know, for the most part. Dogecoin is kind of decentralized, but it's a lot weaker. It's all right. Bitcoin is truly decentralized, deflationary. No one can take it over. They can try, but there's people

fighting, you know. Ethereum is basically like buying a resource that a company owns and controls. So, but I like cryptocurrency um i'm going to be buying more of it steven says lauren will we see an asian president in our lifetime i don't know i i would rather see a competent president personally that's where my interests lie more so you're saying yes you want an asian president yeah yeah uh yeah i don't know i don't really care about stuff like that though much all right yeah i don't know i don't really care about stuff like that though much all right yeah i don't know i think you know in our lifetimes how old are you i think so i got a good 50 60 years uh clay chapman says tim if we get a video to 100k likes can we be rewarded with

guest shoe on head all right here we go everyone listening right now if we can reach 100,000 likes and Shoe on Head chooses to come on the show, or if just Shoe on Head chooses to come on the show, then we'll have Shoe on Head because she's already been invited. And she just doesn't want to come on the show, I guess. So there you go. Get us to 100,000 likes anyway. Yeah, let's go. Tristan Rosario says, Tim, I'm a conservative game designer. Shout out my game

our dilemma available in early access on itch.io where there's a link to my patreon i also sent you an email titled narrative designer for fps game where you can see my work right on cool don't need to know says you're being shadow banned didn't get notifications couldn't find it on my subscribed list. Had to go to your page to get it on here. Which means you should take the URL and share it with as many people as you can because this is, that's the point. Also, had you clicked the bell button? I want to know.

I know you just super chatted. It's hard. Apparently that's how you get the notifications. No, but I mean it's kind of a roll of the dice. I have notifications on for some channels, but sometimes I won't get them or I'll get them way later. Even if it's a live, I'll get them after they're already off. Getting them way later isn't always a bad thing because they don't want to send it to literally every single person at the same time. Then you get less views, actually. So they delay it and stagger it.

But the system's imperfect. I will say it's a free marketing system. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. It's free marketing. Look, so the people who are telling me this, you chose to come to this show. You know when it is. You know when it's a free marketing system. Yeah, it's pretty amazing. It's free marketing. Look, so the people who are telling me this, you chose to come to this show. You know when it is. You know when it's live. Could you imagine if people's TVs automatically

just popped up Tucker Carlson every day? They don't do that. You have to choose to watch Tucker. You have to choose to watch because it is beneficial to us when YouTube recommends us, though. All right. Darun Albain says, Tim, buy the Tesla power backup. Store the external part until you get a new building up and just charge from the grid plus propane generator. If the propane generator is only for the battery charging, you will not need three to four of them.

You can only get them with solar panels. But the good news is we are getting solar. We were trying to wait until we got a better roof because we're going to redo the garage. But at this point point with the power getting knocked out the other day we'll just get the batteries. Thanks for that super chat by the way.

Fine Castle says nothing makes my day like Tim having one of my favorite Canadians on. Love your content Lauren. Speaking of Canadians will you ever interview

Tom McDonald? Tom has an open invite. I've spoken with him but you know he's a big shot man. It's like come on. He's busy. Yeah. He's a busy invite. I've spoken with him, but you know, he's a big shot, man. It's like, come on. He's busy. Yeah. He's a busy guy. He's super famous. I would be very, very grateful for him

to come on this show, but you know, busy guy. Westside Power Sports Sea-Doo Parts says, Tim, you keep asking people to share this video, but Facebook has throttled my page so bad i get little to no response despite having 2 000 plus friends i can't thank i can thank them though

i now spend little to no time on facebook oh you know that same thing happened to me so weird political pothead says stop being so pessimistic look at independent hip-hop tom mcdonald up church adam calhoun, Struggle Jennings, plus music via NFTs. Decentralization takes time. Yeah, I'm optimistic for that stuff. So maybe we'll see what happens. Maybe we are on a good track. All right.

BC says, Tim, I think the letter written to Slate is real. I worked with a guy who intentionally dehydrated himself so he wouldn't have to leave his office to use the restroom during the workday. Yikes. Okay, so I do this on road trips and while traveling. I have a tiny... Why am I sharing this? This is good info. Yeah, I don't know why. Okay, whatever.

I could believe... That's not the same, though, as wearing a mask. No, that's not the same. Yeah, it's different. They call it water fasting. Yeah. Weird. Or dry fasting is what they call it. Yeah, yeah.

All right. Dude, that story about the guy that wears a mask during sex is insane. Just like he not realized other bodily fluids are being exchanged. I don't know. Can you get sick that way, though? They said originally.

Yeah. All right. Mark Walton says, War of the world's broadcast really did scare a lot of people my father has told me that my grandfather thought it was real they had no way of knowing it was not not a real news broadcast yeah no internet that sounds like rachel maddow yeah just kidding rage no no you're right actually but that's kind of funny because i've noticed there are a lot of like horror movies now that take place during the 80s or 90s.

And I think the sole reason is because cell phone and internet. Yeah. Those two things pretty much nip most horror plots in the bud. Yeah. Let's see. Jordan Fox says, Tim, can you make TimCast.com bumper stickers? I'll display it on my vehicle to help spread the word about your show. Keep up the great work.

Yeah, we can. That's a good idea. There we go. I like it. Paul Limer says, Tim, please do something with Freedom Tunes with your Fauci impersonation, having him spew all sorts of outlandish nonsense

about vampires and zombies, etc. Seamus, are you listening? I will be Dr. Fauci for you for Freedom Tunes. A droplet. Remember that? He said it might stop a droplet. Yeah. Doobie McNasty says,

I'm so glad we don't have an idiot in the White House anymore. JK, it's worse than ever. John Marafa says, question for Lauren. You said you saw the biggest rat ever in New York City.

So when did you meet Bill de Blasio or was it Andrew Cuomo? But I'm... Although, I mean, to get the actual question, I think Cuomo's slimier than de Blasio. I think so, too, yeah. Especially with the ladies, it seems.

Doobie McNasty says, Could you imagine how different the political landscape would be if it were Tulsi versus Donald? I feel like it would still be kind of crazy, but the situation we're in right now makes me pull my hair out. WTAF is going on. A lot? Too much. Garhant says Lightfoot will

lose the lawsuit. Do the interview and she will have to eat a river of detritus in the interim. She'll have her CRT views put in print and visible to all. She'll lose her election. Maybe. Yeah. But she can do the interview and he'll be like, so you're pushing critical race theory at this level.

Why are you doing that? I don't know. Next question. But, I mean, even interviews aside, campaign stuff aside, I've got a thing. Like, if you're someone who's living in Chicago right now and you see everything that's happening, how could you vote for the same mayor at the next election? I don't understand. No idea. That is weird. We have a very important question. The Real Hydro says, Tim, when will your frontal lobe develop?

I'm not sure. Hopefully soon. You're in a permanent flow state. But I will say there's something tremendously scary if I don't have a frontal lobe and have been able to be this successful and you haven't. Oh, snap. I got you. Apparently that's how you go into flow is you quiet your frontal lobe and have been able to be this successful and you haven't. Oh, snap. I got you. Apparently that's how you go into flow is you quiet

your frontal lobe. Or you hit it. Oh yeah, people with head injuries are going to flow, like have like flow states. Is that the thing from the movie Soul where they like transport themselves to like the afterlife? I don't know. Spoilers. That's what they call it.

J-Mac says, my son is eight and he has to help out. It's not a free ride. My daughter, too, and she's four. Too many worthless adults had parents that did everything for them. No allowance for chores that are expected either. You want to make money? You got to do more than expected. Amen. You know what you do? You lock the fridge and you put prices on everything.

Oh, my God. Wow. Like a little quarter slot. Yeah, I love it. No, no, no. You just make them buy it. So it's like your kid's like, I want a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. You're like, all right, this costs 75 cents. What have you done to earn it? And then all the chores can be worth certain amounts. Yeah.

That's fascinating. And then the best part is it's really easy to teach socialism because then when one sibling doesn't work at all, you take their money away and give it to them. And they start complaining about it. Be like, don't vote for socialists. There you go. Henry Vallis says,

Tim and crew, please wish my beautiful wife, Rachel, a happy anniversary. We are huge fans and love you all. Also look into hemp-based building materials such as hempcrete, hemp wool, and hempwood. Also hemp herd for chicken bedding. Cool. Happy anniversary, guys. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary, Rachel.

David Salter says, Tim, I love the show except when you say Jif. I did want to point, it's Jif, man. The inventor of it says Jif. Yeah, but he was wrong. Yeah, but it's graphic. It stands for graphic. The guy who invented it says it's Jif. Is it graphic interface?

Is that what it means? Interchange format. Interchange format. So you guys even know that and you're trying to tell me that. Yeah, I do know that. That's peanut butter. I feel like we're in a time warp right now. Didn't this happen before? Yes, we've talked about this. That's peanut butter. I feel like we're in a time warp right now. Didn't this happen before?

It's GIF. Tim's wrong. It's okay. So the guy who invented it said GIF. GIF, isn't it? No, he said it's GIF. The guy who invented it said it. Yeah, but Richard Stolman said it's GNU. His software GNU, like the animal GNU. And he invented it, so he's correct.

Yeah, but GNU is pronounced GNU, not GNU. He can call it whatever he wants. Well, he can invent a file format. That doesn't mean he invents the English language. Could you imagine people being so dumb, they say something like a magick giant was casting a spell? Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Here we go. Magick. Now we're talking. Here we go. No, it's magic. G-I-G-I-G-I-C. Giant. Okay.

But it's not dros. It's gross. Yeah, because it could be either. Sometimes there's a soft J, and sometimes there's a soft G. I div up. Let's go back to our super chat. Yeah, exactly. Joshua LeBlanc says, Lauren Chen is the jote. Oh, go away.

Oh, okay. He really did say go, though. He got you. I love it. Jeffrey really did say go, though. He got you. I love it. Jeffrey McCorbin says geofre. The G. Okay, you made your point. Question for Ian.

What are your thoughts on sonoluminescence? Oh, that. Oh, gosh. What is that? What is that? That is. I know it's obviously something that's glowing. That's the luminescent part.

Is it sono with an N? Sonic? Sono luminescence. Oh, is that when they use sound to make light? Yeah, it is. You can vibrate a substrate and create light. In fact, you can create light out of the vacuum and then create electrons out of light. So you can basically create energy out of the vacuum.

That's crazy all right let's see that terry uh teramoto jr says think what we're seeing in society is a spiritual great depression lacking purpose and belonging we cling to anything to make us feel good about ourselves no matter how delusional it might be yeah people need to learn how to meditate yeah i was just thinking that we should take all these angry people and just like bring them to like an ancient yogi atop a mountain and have him just tell them what's up. Yeah, you experience nothing. That's best sometimes.

I tried the hippiest, most hipster thing the other day, but it ended up being great. It's this sound chair experience. So you go on a chair and it reclines, so it's almost the zero G position. And it vibrates in sync with all these ocean sound stuff. So it's to help people meditate who can't shut off their minds. So it gives you something to focus on, like just the sound and the vibrations. And it's actually really cool. And I'm too all over the place to meditate by myself.

But it was amazing. How long did you do it for? I did it for like 30 minutes. But it's weird because I remember I couldn't get into it. Then I looked at the clock and I had like 25 minutes left. I was like, oh, this is going to take forever. Then two seconds later, I looked and I was done.

Oh, it's amazing. What the heck? Were you in like a trance? Yeah. I mean, it's almost like I fell asleep, but I wasn't sleeping. It was cool. I'd never been able to, I guess, meditate successfully. It was cool.

These people think they can get me. I've learned been able to, I guess, meditate successfully. It was cool. These people think they can get me. They think I've learned. Don't you realize this? I'm going to read it anyway. Do it. Do it. Dead Eye says, Tim, your ads on Spotify are jarring. They need to be smoother like Michael Knowles in his new book, Speechless, Controlling Words,

Controlling Minds. Michael Knowles turned his promo for his book into a meme. Dude, that's how you do it. He is going to sell so many books. It is the smartest thing ever. Yeah, he is a very intelligent fellow. Yeah. Luke Slivkoff says, awesome to see Lauren on the show.

She was one of the first political podcasts that I listened to back when she was roaming millennial. Great show. I remember messing up your name many times, Luke Slivkoff. Where were you roaming to? Oh, well, it was because I had moved around so much. Oh, okay. Previously, yeah.

I used to love Roaming Millennial. Oh, thank you. But that show got canceled and replaced by The Lauren Chen Show. Yes. Kind of like Don Lemon. Upgrade. Wasn't that like what Lemon did? Yeah, he canceled and I canceled.

Oh, yeah. You saw that? Where he tried to fake quit. Fake quit? Yeah. What happened with Roaming Millennial? Did you just decide one day to start using your own name? Yeah, I mean, like, I essentially started doing, like, more in-person stuff and, like,

doing more newsy stuff. And then it got weird trying to, like, explain what that is. You like Black Pigeon Speaks? Yeah. And, like, I remember, like, I went on, the first time I was ever on, like, Fox and Friends, they, like, accidentally doxed me anyway. Like, live on air. Whoopsie.

This is interesting. Paul Wallace says, it happens gradually and then suddenly. Hemingway's character was talking about bankruptcy, but it's true about many other things as well. True. Very true. Yeah, I think we're definitely at the point in the societal crisis that any day really could be the switch where it goes full bore. Any kind of line graph, it looks like it's going up in a straight line, but if you zoom in, you'll see it's going like this, up, down, up, down.

But it's constantly going up slowly, but when you zoom out, it looks like a fluid upward pattern. We're close up on this. Ten years ago, if you said to me that the country would collapse, I'd be like, no way. If someone came to me and said it'll be next tuesday i'd be like gradually and then suddenly yeah maybe yeah i mean i'm actually at a point now where i believe it that's scary amanda dilt says has anyone on the show read the sword of truth series by terry goodkind if not please give it a read it

shows what happens when communism comes up against the free choice and how one person can make change. Euphoric Break says, under the Great Reset, you will live in pods in smart cities under 24-7-365 surveillance. You will be lucky to get bugs in your diet of pills. Vans?

You will be a serf living in a neo-feudalistic system with zero rights. You might. Not me. I'm the special one. Of course. It'll never happen to me. Exactly.

These people are like the people who get bit in zombie movies and don't tell anyone because they think they're the special one who's not going to get sick. Dude, that's the most annoying thing. If I was in a zombie apocalypse and I got bit, I'd just be like, guys, sorry. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, of course I'd just be like, guys, sorry. Oh my gosh. Yeah, of course. That'd be a hard scene to watch. I would try to cut off my arm first if I was bit on the arm. Yeah, totally. I'd be like, ah! That would be very exciting.

But it's too late. I mean, it's just not real life that you get bit and then a few minutes you turn into a zombie. Is that rabies? How long does that take? A month. Oh wow. It takes a while. Yeah a month. That would be a good zombie movie though where something with like a slower lead up time where it

takes longer to fester. Maybe like a like there's like a minor virus that people get. Yeah. And no one really cares about it. And then all of a sudden like it's like a second phase and then people just start like like if you've ever played Plague Inc., you know you gotta put really high virility

but low lethality to start off with. Yeah, and then turn it up. Yep. And then like once the movie ends, it like zooms out and then it goes through a screen and there's like a seven-year-old kid just like...

That would be so great. Like Men in Black. Oh man, yeah. Coldilocks says, The guy you had on yesterday or Tuesday was an idiot when it comes to World War II history. Britain, France, and America leaving Germany alone was not an option. Then Germany attacked France first. Documents found post-war showed plans for a U.S. mainland invasion.

You know, France actually did invade Germany in 1939. They did a failed invasion. Didn't go very well for them. Jeez. But, I mean, obviously, Germany... Jason Vreeman says, Ian, any idea what carbon footprint is caused by data mining and tracking bots? Can we save the planet by banning advertisers and data collection?

I don't know what amount of carbon footprint is made by that but i i tend to take the route of rather than reduce the amount of carbon emissions that we withdraw the carbon from the atmosphere and reuse it carbon capture yeah yeah deposit it on the like palladium to create graphene and things like that i have a really good question igloo king says tim quote you're not going to vote your way out of this. Why would a tyrant give you your freedoms back? They won't. The actual quote I said is, why would Oregon give up their serfs? So the people of Oregon voted.

They want to join Idaho. As far as I'm concerned, it's done. The people have rescinded their consent to Oregon and they want to go to Idaho. If Idaho approves, I say do it. But they're not going to. Oregon's not going to give up their serfs. Then he says, also, Tim, I do not condone violence and I do not call for people taking up arms. What to do?

It's really easy. I've said it over and over and over again. We are in fourth and fifth generational warfare. You win by gaining control of institutions, by working there, by building culture, by sharing YouTube videos so that the predominant view shifts in the culture. And then you don't win. Back in the day when there was no communication, war was you marched in and demanded it. And if they didn't, then you had weapons. Today's day and age is you convince people, you propagandize, you share information,

and the left does all of that in spades. So how do you win? You don't storm the Capitol because that's the biggest weapon. Most people not paying attention are shocked and scared by that. A lot of them probably don't care, but a lot of people view it as the apocalypse. You can see them propagandizing. That's how they win. And the cops aren't helping anybody. They're just doing what they're told. So you have to build culture and be peaceful, resourceful, and persuasive. And there you go.

Jeff Ross says, would you consider having Donut Operator on the show? He's an ex-cop turned YouTuber that I think would be good content. And yes, absolutely, we would. Standing invite. I'm telling you guys. DudeX01 says, Charles Hoskinson, founder of Cardano and ETH, said that he would come on TimCast if he was invited on Twitter today. He was invited by Lydia on Twitter. He was.

Twice. Yeah. Several times. Yeah. I'd love to have him. Lydia does all the booking. I do indeed. There you go.

DJ Madero says, Star Trek DS9 episode in the pale moonlight best defines what a man will do if he believes the ends justify the means. It's a dangerous ideology, if you asking me all right alexander ali says captain america said we don't trade lot trade lives but vision and half the population died anyways you can poke holes in either philosophy well but that's only because he lost but i guess a utilitarian would argue that i mean trying to save everyone with like refusing to acknowledge the fact that there will be losses and taking the initiative to minimize those losses will result in overall more people being hurt, regardless of how much you may try. AC130 says, great King of the Hill episode about the trolley problem. Hank is left with the decision to open the floodgates or destroy other homes and is hated after. That's why people just don't want to have the decision.

Leave me out of it. I don't want to be responsible. People need to learn to be responsible, though. Yeah, because making no decision is a decision. That's a good way of looking at it. That's what Rush said. All right, we'll do a few more. Let's see.

BL42JD. Cool hearing Ian say GNU. What distro do you use, Ian? I currently don't. I use Windows. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I've never used GNU. But I've studied a lot of Richard Stallman.

I have a lot of respect for the guy. I'm sad that he went through the whole cancel culture thing. You know, I think his text was kind of, I don't know. Are you familiar with Richard Stallman? He built the GNU system. The free software kind of created the free software movement. And then he wrote something about Epstein and supporting people that went there. I don't know. And then MIT fired him. It's unfortunate because he's kind of like the Yoda of computer code. Here's a good one. OMG just remembered.

I was listening to you and my dad recognized your voice and said to me, is that the hat guy? It is the hat guy. It is the hat guy. That's me. Kayla Sherard says, a modern trolley problem my professor posed is the algorithms in self-driving cars to prevent accidents. Would we avoid crashes by crashing into pedestrians? Might demographics come into play with time? Well, that's what people are already asserting with AI, that it is racist.

Because apparently more black people have been run over or something. Yeah, I'm not sure what they're thinking there, but yeah. Mike Sullivan says, love Lauren's response about the trolley. Five cancers to society and one with the cure. Truly no malarkey. All right, all right. Sullivan says, love Lauren's response about the trolley. Five cancers to society and one with the cure. Truly no malarkey. All right, all right. And by the way, no malarkey is our podcast.

Oh, I like that. Oh, really? Yeah, no malarkey. Is it Joe Biden fan podcast? No, there's no malarkey. That would be a lot of malarkey. Ah, yes, yes, yes. Much malarkey.

Mucho malarkey. Spanish language anti-Biden podcast. No, pro-Biden. Sorry. Mucho malarkey. Mucho malarkey. Spanish language anti-Biden podcast. No, pro-Biden. Sorry. Mucho malarkey. Mucho malarkey. All right. Aaron Bortner says, you guys should come to Gettysburg PA area.

Nice place. And Tim, if you come up that far, I'll take you to a nice cement skate park in York. Free. Cool. We should search for ghosts in Gettysburg. Oh, my gosh. If you ever want to do a ghost hunting series, I'm there. I just bought some EMF detectors. I'm there. Because we're going EMF detectors. I'm there.

Because we're going to be doing this paranormal show. Yeah. But I must stress, there is no evidence or anything indicating EMF has anything to do with ghosts. Right. It could be subatomic vibration. I'm just curious what it is. Imagine a dude in the 1800s just walking around with some kind of magnifying glass looking at things. Saying, I'm going to use this device which allows us to see

smaller things and like by today's standards you'd be like what are you doing? Yeah. So in like a hundred years I'm going to look back and these people were so dumb. I'm looking for ghosts. Well I mean like infrared stuff they say cold spots or I don't know. Yeah we can get night vision goggles. Yeah. That'd be cool. And then find ghosts.

Alright let's see we'll do one see. We'll do one more. We'll do two more. Mingno Sullivan says, summer coming up. When will you be selling Fauci flip-flops? We won't because I don't have the rights to his likeness. That'd be so fun. Get it, though? Flip-flop?

Yeah, that's good. Yeah. I love it. Flip-flops. Here's the last. We'll do one more. Dead Eye says, Michael Knowles is smart with his marketing campaign, but don't forget about Michael Malice's new book,

The Anarchist Handbook, available now. You guys, go buy those books. Make them number one on Amazon so that when regular people go on Amazon,

they see those books. Cultural enforcement. That's right. That's cool. What's Anarchist Handbook about? Are you guys familiar? I mean, other than anarchy,

the obvious, but. It's about Michael Malice's handbook for anarchism. Yeah. So he's basically breaking down what is anarchy. He goes through the history. I guess I could ask him about that. Yeah, he talks about...

What's her face? Emma Goldman, is that her name? I think so. And then that guy, that cute guy he was talking about on the show. And like... Yeah. He's good looking. That's right.

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