Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #297 - New Study Claims China MADE COVID, Fauci Says Maybe w/David Reaboi

Episode Date: May 29, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join commentator, national security and political warfare analyst, Twitter pugilist, and author David Reaboi to break down the most recent development in the Covid scandal saga, te...ch groups who are trying to sue Ron Desantis for stopping their power grabs, gain of function studies, the role of Qatar in American politics, and generational dynamics akin to the book The Fourth Turning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'd like to start today's episode off on a very serious note. It is May 28th, 2021, and five years ago, there was a very serious moment that kicked off all of this conflict, all of the fighting and all of the hatred. Something that happened in this country that just tore people apart at their core. It's the killing of Harambee. Five years ago today. I just posted about that. They took our boy and from that everyone just erupted in rage
Starting point is 00:00:30 no one could understand the pain the grief was so intense that we've been fighting ever since R.I.P. Harambe I missed Harambe you know when you're a kid sometimes you're in elementary school or grade school and like you miss a day and then it just happens to be a crucial day.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Yeah, yeah. Five years ago today, you're like sitting here eating a burrito. I was unplugged from this and then everybody's talking about Harambe. If you can explain to me in two or three sentences Harambe. They killed a gorilla. Who? The zoo. He killed a gorilla. Who? The zoo. He had a little boy.
Starting point is 00:01:07 He fell in. Yeah. And he was like dragging him. So they shot and killed him. Oof. Yeah. So Harambe was the young. There's a gorilla.
Starting point is 00:01:15 He's a gorilla. The gorilla. Okay. So they shot the gorilla to save the little boy. Got it. And everyone was like, it became a meme. They took our boy, you know, Harambe. And it's been five years
Starting point is 00:01:25 everybody must produce the song about it it's true highly recommend very true checking that one out uh no i do feel bad about you know this this gorilla being killed you know it is it's still sad but it's a meme so hey everybody thanks for hanging out it was uh it was not really a serious opening but i wonder i wonder if people are genuinely offended by like don't you dare insult the memory whose fault was it was it it the gorilla or the little boy? The boy fell in. A human falls in a gorilla cage. The gorilla mauls the human.
Starting point is 00:01:50 They kill the gorilla. Whose fault was it? If this would happen today, wouldn't you see an expose of the little boy? I mean, wouldn't the media try to destroy this kid's life? Yeah, I guess. You know, his parents. I mean, everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:02 This unarmed gorilla was killed by the authorities. Right. I mean, do we know anything about the kid? Yeah. Yeah. What was the kid doing? Was there even a kid? Was the kid like skulking around looking all like peacocking?
Starting point is 00:02:14 He was trying to steal, you know, from Harambe's house. It's only three. Harambe was just defending himself. All right. The kid was three. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Yeah. So he doesn't even remember. Yeah. I can't blame the stuff story but let's get into the this the serious story uh this one's risky you know it gave me pause looking at this news because i'm like well youtube might absolutely ban us um we've got reporting out that there's a study suggesting or a flat out saying that the covid was made by China, made by them. And that after the lab leak, they panicked and retro engineered it to try and make it seem like it was naturally occurring. Now, the only reason
Starting point is 00:02:52 it's been reported by the Daily Mail, it's like a front page story. Maybe it's not true. Of course, this is a NewsGuard certified source. So I'm not going to ignore a breaking story, even if YouTube punishes us for it. But the other thing is Fauci himself said that he wasn't convinced it was naturally occurring. If it's not naturally occurring, then what does that mean? It emerged next to the Wuhan lab. Fauci is the one who opened the door for this conversation. So be it. We need to talk about it. And we'll talk about a bunch of stuff. It's Friday. We take things easy. We chill pretty much on Friday. And we're being joined today by national security analyst author dave raboy david raboy that's gonna make you want to introduce yourself real quick sure i um i tweet
Starting point is 00:03:34 at davraboy.com i well i i add david boy i i have a website at davidboy.com where i've got writing i write about music i write about politics, international affairs. And the collapse of this country. And the collapse of the country because we're in a civilizational crisis period, and that's on the menu. I have this book called Qatar's Shadow War that I wrote, which is available on the site or on Amazon or wherever. Very cool. Cool. Talk about it.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And yeah, we can talk about it. Right on. Great to be here. This guy Ian is sitting here. What up, homie? Yeah. Okay. What's going on with Ian's camera?
Starting point is 00:04:13 I don't know. What do I look like? He's giving me static. You look like yesterday. Give me the skinny. You look just like you did yesterday, which is actually an issue because I'm pretty sure something's going on with your camera. Table of the elements.
Starting point is 00:04:23 What's up? Yeah. We can't see you at all. What is happening, Tim? Ian's camera's just frozen on a still of him. I've been running around the studio like a crazy person. What do you think? Let me try.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Let's see if Tim can magically fix it. Anyway, I'm also here in the corner. Yeah, we're chilling. I'll tell you a little story. Oh, boy. There was a frog, and he was having a hard time in the woods, so he ended up meeting this other frog, and the two of them went off, and you got it figured out?
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's still frozen. Yeah, it's just frozen. W-T-F, Ian. Your magnetic force is too much. I'll listen for a while. Oh, sorry. You want to switch chairs? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Actually, yeah, that could work. All right, we're going to wing it, guys. It's Friday. Is the other camera for a while. Oh, sorry. You want to switch chairs? Yeah, sure. Actually, yeah, that could work. All right, we're going to wing it, guys. It's Friday. Is the other camera on? I'll turn it on. It's funny because you hear Ian talking, and there's just a still of him, just in a weird face. Well, I do have news. We have upgrades coming.
Starting point is 00:05:17 So that computer we ordered months ago is finally getting put together. And hopefully we'll get it and rebuild. All right, let's see. let's see if we're gonna be can we see in there he is yes okay is your microphone working no it's not working it's on it is yeah we're good how's the balance looking good i can yeah i can't hear low it's a little low all right let me turn him up a bit some juice in the headset there we go how are we looking hello everyone oh my gosh we'll get there eventually good to be here all right yeah All right, let me turn him up a bit. Some juice in the headset. Oh, there it is. What's up? How are we looking? Hello, everyone. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:05:45 We'll get there eventually. Good to see you. Good to be here. All right. Yeah, Ian is here. He's going to get this plasma ball charged. Cool. You got to plug it in.
Starting point is 00:05:52 You can rock and roll. So for those that are wondering, we've had a ton of lingering issues after the power went out. So we had a really bad storm, knocked all the power out, and then everything kind of got frazzled. But, you know, whatever. You'd think we'd be professionals at this point. This looks like a professional outfit to me.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It looks like it. It's like almost there. It's like halfway there. It looks like it, but we're winging it half the time. Semi-pro. We just got an AV guy to set compression, and we've been doing the show for over a year, like a year and a half. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Everyone's like, the sound is bad. It's like, eh, we'll figure it out. We'll get there. It's fine. It's fine. eh, we'll figure it out. We'll get there. It's fine. It's fine. Yeah, I sure can. I can turn you up, man. All right, everybody.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Hey. How's that, Ian? Before we get started. Nothing yet. Go to tipcast.com. Sign up, become a member, and you'll get access to exclusive content in our members-only area. We were hanging out with Lauren Chen yesterday. Look at that.
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Starting point is 00:07:34 YouTube will put them on the front page. Everybody hates it, but they do it. And then people share that stuff. So we got to push back. That's how you do it. But you can buy people's books. You can buy books from people like Dave Urboy, The Cutter's Shadow War, or, you know, books from people like Michael Malice or Michael Knowles. You just got to be active. You got to throw it, throw, throw some skin in the game. But let's, let's talk about the story that's going to get us in trouble. Here we go. Exclusive from the Daily Mail. They say COVID-19, quote, has no credible natural ancestor and was created by Chinese scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with, quote, retro engineering to make it seem like it naturally arose from bats.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Explosive new study claims. They say the study researchers found unique fingerprints in COVID-19 samples they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a laboratory. Now, I will stress, we've already heard this last year. And you had that one guy, Luke, what's his, I can't remember his name. He's a famous virologist, won the Nobel Peace Prize, said the same thing. They called him a crackpot. They called him a conspiracy theorist. We've heard similar things before. We're hearing it again. And the weirdest thing right now is a bunch of journalists that are like, there's no evidence lab leak is real. There's all the evidence that it was natural zoologic, you know, transfer or whatever. And I'm like, all right, let me, let me, let me break down all y'all for where, for, for, uh, let me, let me break down where we're at so far.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Okay. I'm going to start with the timeline as we know it now, not what's the timeline of the reporting. US provided funding to eco health Alliance money Alliance. Money from that pool went to the Wuhan lab for what's called gain-of-function research, where they tried to make viruses gain functions. The idea is that by making a virus stronger, we'll understand it before it emerges in the wild. So that's happening. Then around November 2019, some people got sick.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Videos came out, reports came out suggesting that at some point people had been bitten by a bat or bats had peed on somebody. So then a few months later, we start getting reports of this sickness emerging in Wuhan. It starts spreading. And then we start getting speculation that it's from the wet market across the street from the Wuhan lab. Already, people are asking questions. Could it have emerged? And, you know, I said often, you know, look, it's a bad coronavirus. People in a wet market are it's unsanitary. Actually, I would argue that makes more sense simply because a bio lab still has security. A wet
Starting point is 00:10:03 market doesn't. So if I if I if you told me to put $100, then I'd be like, the place with no security. Why would I bet on the place with security? But then when you factor in the fact that they were doing gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses, when you factor in that people were getting sick, everything starts to line up. Now we got Fauci himself saying he's not convinced it occurred naturally. And then we get the story. They go on to say, Daily Mail exclusively obtained a 22 page paper authored by the British professor Angus Dalglish and Norwegian scientist, Dr. Berger Sorensen, set to be published in the quarterly review of biophysics discovery.
Starting point is 00:10:37 The studies show that there's evidence to suggest Chinese scientists created the virus while working on a gain of function project at the Wuhan lab. Gain of function research, which was temporarily outlawed in the U.S., involves altering naturally occurring viruses to make them more infectious in order to study their potential effects on humans. According to the paper, Chinese scientists took a natural coronavirus backbone found in Chinese cave bats and spliced onto it a new spike, turning it into the deadly and highly transmissible COVID-19. The researchers who concluded that COVID-19 has no credible natural ancestor also believe scientists reverse engineered versions of the virus to cover up their tracks. Quote, we think that there have been retro engineered viruses created,
Starting point is 00:11:21 Dahlgleich told DailyMail.com. They've changed the virus, then tried to make out it was a sequence years ago. The study also points to deliberate destruction, concealment, or contamination of data in Chinese labs and notes that scientists who wish to share their findings haven't been able to do so or have disappeared. Now that's where it gets a little weird. I'd like to read about that because it sounded a bit conspiratorial. Until recently, most experts have staunchly denied the origins of the virus were anything other than natural infection leaping from animals to human. Earlier this week, Dr. Anthony Fauci defended U.S. funding of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, saying the $600,000 grant was not approved for gain-of-function research.
Starting point is 00:12:01 And I also want to make sure we absolutely stress Fauci bombshell as reported by the hill.com, not convinced COVID-19 developed naturally outside Wuhan lab. Take, just take that quote from Fauci. All right. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to sit here and we're going to say, I don't know about this study. Maybe the study is not true. I don't know. All right. YouTube's banned people for less, but Fauci said he's not convinced it developed naturally outside the lab. If the first reported cases were from outside the lab, but it didn't develop naturally outside the lab, then it stands to reason the lab leak hypothesis is true
Starting point is 00:12:33 and it was manufactured in the lab. Unless Fauci's wrong again. It developed naturally in the lab. How does it develop naturally in a lab? I don't know. That is an option. The logic follows that that could also be a possibility. The moment they put the virus in a lab i don't know but that's like the logic follows the possibility the moment they put the virus in the lab let's say let's say they found the virus in a bat and they put the bat
Starting point is 00:12:51 in the lab and they put the bat in a in a box and then the virus mutates that's that's that's lab engineered they change the conditions of the bat that's the bare minimum for me i suppose look this is a tremendous horrible horrible slander of the wet market community. I mean, it is. And I mean, imagine the guy who owns that wet market. Is it one man? Is one guy? I don't know. Maybe he's the one guy who subleases to all the other wet marketeers. Did you see that New York Times reporter who said that lab leak was racist? Sure. Of course. Well, no, I mean, what's more racist? Lab leak or wet market? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So it's, that's what's funny. So the reporter for the New York Times was covering COVID tweeted that one day we'll stop talking about lab leak and discuss the racist origins or whatever. And then people were like, the wet market is more racist. You know, like the
Starting point is 00:13:44 lab is plausible in that people, labs have accidents. Could happen anywhere. But then to accuse the Chinese people of having these filthy, disease-ridden markets is like... Well, it's because we eat bats. I mean, yeah, that's not nice. But did they really?
Starting point is 00:13:56 I thought that was like an urban legend or like a myth that they were eating bats. Like people were saying bat soup and then I guess... What are you selling live bats for at a wet market? If're not going to eat i don't know i mean this is all this is all you know coming from media reports and you know all that all that nonsense that uh that came out in initially you know we heard about the wet market we heard about the bats and we're you know people joking about bat soup and all this stuff. And of course, then the media backlash.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Oh, my God, all this is racist. Yeah. So don't talk about it. It's all racist. It's the weirdest thing. And I guess it's because they hated Trump and Trump suggested it. So then all of a sudden they had to. I think it's a combination of that.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Trump says something. They must say the opposite. But I also I also think that politically they saw it as a way to go after Trump. If this was a natural phenomenon, it's Trump's fault. And then they can use that to get Trump out. Think about this, though. We have an idea that the media is getting less powerful as alternative media rises. I thought that for a couple of years. I thought that it was declining in power. And what COVID showed me was that these guys are still insanely powerful. I mean, think about this.
Starting point is 00:15:14 We have the biggest story in the world. Everyone is hysterical, afraid of this virus. And yet we're like a year on and we're only now starting to think, hey, we had this thing happen. I mean, in what world is that? In 9-11 happens immediately as soon as the rubble is cleared. No, not even. You know, I was in New York. The sky is full of clouds.
Starting point is 00:15:41 It's like, all right, who did it? Right. How'd this happen? Who did it? And for this, we go a year. And it's not just the media, though. Clearly, the media is a component of an establishment power. That's they they either because they are pressured by each other.
Starting point is 00:15:59 They're scared of being ostracized. CNN says something. YouTube says that's the truth. We decided if CNN says that it's true. And so you go on YouTube and you make some claims that the election will ban you. You make some claims about COVID they'll ban you. But for four years, the media could go on YouTube and make the most outrageous, nonsensical claims about Donald Trump. And it was totally acceptable. Sure. So yeah, I, I, you know, I'll tell you this. I've made the point that social media has empowered the individual. But like I stated in the opening when I was doing the promo spot, CNN gets hundreds of millions of views on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Why? Because YouTube guarantees that if you search for news, they will send you CNN. It's not just that they've decided CNN is the truth. They've decided it's the only thing you're allowed to watch. So how do we combat that? People just got to keep talking. Talk as much as you can, I guess. And it's even worse than that because you've got an entire industry now that has developed
Starting point is 00:16:54 the, you know, let's say the so-called disinformation industry, which is really just a mutation of the old countering violent extremism industry during the war on terror. It's basically the same people. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:08 They've retooled themselves and they've created metrics and all kinds of justifications for saying, no, CNN is authoritative, but Tim Pool is, you know, is not this information. Well, so they actually, Google told me I could become authoritative
Starting point is 00:17:23 if I chose to do it. If there's a process you go through, you have to like fill out forms and then submit something and then they put you in their authoritative list so it's possible uh the challenge is that it's it's an obvious institutional bias so i do believe youtube likes me more than other channels i do because you get a lot of views. Maybe. But I certainly think that, you know, there are smaller channels that are still decently sized that have gotten strikes for saying similar things to me. And, you know, we're running a risk here
Starting point is 00:17:55 just simply talking about the story because YouTube, they go nuts. I mean, Crowder cited the CDC data, and they nuked him. Right. So. Well, I mean, I also think that you've got such, you've created such a nice, serious infrastructure around the show.
Starting point is 00:18:10 With, you know, with the house and the equipment and the team and everything. I mean, that I think that for YouTube and some of these, you know, let's just say for YouTube, they look at this and they say, this is a story that we want told. We want someone like Tim Pool to be able to make a living and to thrive on this platform. Makes sense. Because if you get yanked and you get banned, that's a big story. Right. And it's bad for business. It's bad for business.
Starting point is 00:18:42 YouTube is a very dangerous place to run a business. Facebook is a very dangerous place to run a business Facebook is a very dangerous place to run a business and if actually YouTube did a survey they sent me this everybody got it probably and it's like fill out our survey and it asked me questions about what platforms I use and I'm like I use Twitter, Instagram, TikTok
Starting point is 00:19:00 whatever and then it's like how do you feel about them how confident are you and I'm just like oh not at all like, how do you feel about them? How confident are you? And I'm just like, oh, not at all. Like Twitter, do you feel safe using that? No way. Do you think they have your best interest? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And then for YouTube, I'm like, YouTube is definitely not a safe place for a business. It does provide an opportunity for reach and for revenue, but YouTube could ban you at any moment without notice, and they've done it before. They did it to a guy named Monkey Jones. He had no strikes. He broke no rules and they deleted all of his channels without warning
Starting point is 00:19:32 because they found his content distasteful. That was it. He broke no rules. He just made – it was black comedy and they didn't like it. He did – I'll leave it there. It's spicy comedy, but it wasn't racist. It was like the edge of edgy
Starting point is 00:19:50 and they deleted his channel outright. So this is the world we live in right now where, of course, YouTube wants people to believe you can be a creator so long as you follow these rigid guidelines we don't explain to you. That will change at any moment. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:03 We just learned this is really interesting from Project Veritas, too. I don't know if you saw this, where they have the whistleblower come out, and they say that publicly, Facebook's guidelines are very vague. Internally, they're extremely well-defined. And they do that so that way, when they ban someone, they can, oh, well, you know, this rule is violated for this reason, and they can just make it whatever they want. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 So, I mean, Twitter is the same. Twitter operates exactly the same way. I was, a few years ago, I was in a back and forth at length with some Twitter folks, you know, folks who work at the company, whose job it was. They saw, hey, you know what, let's reach out to conservatives who are, you know, who have a platform online. And I went at them and I said, look, you're shadow banning. You're doing all of these things. You're throttling the amount of views that people will get, that viewers will get. And they denied all of this. But they admitted to having, I think, some 300 different metrics or types of metrics that will decide who you are based on behaviors. Right. So that they can look you in the eye and they say, we do not ban conservatives.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It is the stupidest lie. And the issue, I guess, is I don't know don't I don't know why any conservative would believe them. And I don't know why a conservative would argue with them. I've argued with them, but we know they're lying. They know we know they're lying and they know we know they know they're lying. They know we know they know we know they're lying. Yes. Yeah. I wrote a piece about it at at The Federalist, I think,, I think in 2018, describing this whole back and forth. And I told him, you know, my Twitter hasn't grown more than, I don't know, 200, 300 in the last nine months.
Starting point is 00:22:00 It's obvious that something is going on because of how exponential growth works. And the guy looked at me and said, maybe your tweets just aren't so good. We can offer you a class on how to tweet better. Wow. I mean, the chutzpah. Yeah. And this guy had like 400 followers or something, and he's talking to me. And it's like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:31 it's so obvious that the finger is on the scale. It's so obvious that that this is going on. It's not even debatable. But of course, you've got you know, we went through four years of Donald Trump where I knew this was a problem in January of 2017. You know, I mean, I'm not special. A lot of people saw that this was an issue. And nothing was done. The Republicans didn't do anything about it when they had the power to do it. Nothing. And they're not going to now. We get hearing after hearing after hearing.
Starting point is 00:22:54 They don't do anything. Oh, at the federal level? Absolutely not. At the federal level, all these guys. So DeSantis. So I was there at the bill signing. I was there at the bill signing. And it was great.
Starting point is 00:23:06 The room was electric because everybody knows what is up here. Everybody knows. It used to be that it's like, okay, Milo, Alex Jones, these people who you'd never meet in a million years. But they got banned. But now it's grandma getting banned. Yeah, it's people who are just saying, you know, learn to code. Right. Making jokes.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Right. Now here's where it gets crazy. You ready for this one? Tech groups sue DeSantis over social media bill. Knew it. I thought someone in Florida was going to file a lawsuit against the big tech companies immediately. Instead, it's the other way around. You get a few minutes, a few days, and whoever strikes first.
Starting point is 00:23:46 It's basically when, if two countries are going to go to war, one of them gets to declare the war and invade. And if you wait, the other one's going to invade you, so you invade first. Let's see what we got here. They say two technology groups on Thursday filed a lawsuit in Tallahassee Federal Court challenging a controversial bill that Governor DeSantis said is aimed at cracking down on social media censorship. But opponents argue it's an unconstitutional infringement
Starting point is 00:24:08 of free speech. That's factually not true. It's not. Well, it's the free speech of the corporation. Right. But the issue is, so we've had an interesting conversation about this. The New York Times, for instance, if they take an article from you and publish it, it's their speech.
Starting point is 00:24:24 What happens if you write the article from you and publish it, it's their speech. What happens if you write the article, submit it through a submissions portal, and then they publish it? That's actually your speech, even though they chose to publish through a submission portal. Does that make sense? No. And that's the way it works right now. So no, this does not actually stop the corporation's free speech. No, of course. I mean, I agree with you, but that's the argument that they're making. It's a fake argument. It's a fake argument, but all of this is good.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You know, it's got to go through the courts. It's got to be fought. You know, frankly, the thing that needs to happen right now is, you know, you've got to get some conservative donors putting some money into fighting this in a public way. Let's get some C4s. Let's get people out there pushing this. Everybody knows that this is a huge issue. I think a C3 could do this. A 501c3 could handle this.
Starting point is 00:25:13 It's not political. Sure. Just going after censorship in general is a tax-deductible cause. Yeah, and supporting some of this pushback. Even if DeSantis will. Because, you know, as you know, it's not just one thing on one issue. You know, he's doing the riot stuff. He's doing other stuff. You know, they're going to take him to court for over everything.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yep. And it seems I mean, sadly, I look I loved Ron DeSantis. I think Florida is the best state in the union right now. But unfortunately, we're alone. And this has got to change. I love it here. Let me read this quote. Americans everywhere should oppose Florida's attempt to run roughshod over the First Amendment rights of private online businesses, says Carl Zabo, Vice President and General Counsel of NetChoice. By weakening the First Amendment rights of some, Florida weakens the First Amendment rights of all. Let me just explain something.
Starting point is 00:26:05 The bill targets, I think they have to have like 100 million users. Since when has the left been like, but what about the ultra wealthy and the massive multinational corporations? Who's going to protect them? That's where they're at right now. This is the funniest thing. I saw somebody, they were commenting about uh ted cruz he made a comment about your medical choices should be your choice and no government should intervene and then all these leftists are like high-fiving like oh yeah now do abortion and i'm
Starting point is 00:26:35 like that's really funny because you can make fun of ted cruz but what about the disaffected liberals who have always been in favor of regulating massive corporations or who have been pro-choice the whole time and are telling you you're insane. See, they ignore people like me because it's inconvenient. It's convenient for me to a certain degree because then I don't get the smear pieces coming out all the time. But yeah, when I say 10 years ago, we got to regulate these massive corporations that are stealing the commons and polluting our waters and colluding with foreign interests. And then they said the same thing. Now I'm still saying the same thing. Oh, but it benefits conservatives.
Starting point is 00:27:08 So now they're not going to say anything. And then what they'll do is when a conservative comes out, they say, you just hate free speech. You're going to regulate these companies, take away their free speech rights because corporations are people, my friend. The chutzpah of these people is so far beyond. It's so far beyond anything.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Because I mean, in my mind, it's very simple. Is there such a thing as a public square? Is it possible for a public square to be owned in 2021 by a private entity? Yes, of course. Yes, of course. This is obvious you know this is what a lot of the libertarian types and the people you know frankly who are taking a ton of money from you know from big tech are saying is that they're denying that this is a thing um and the other thing is if you you know you are allowing these corporations to have more power than governments yeah india all the people's gone hungary poland
Starting point is 00:28:03 the u.s all these other places have gotten into conflicts with these big tech companies. The big tech companies usually end up winning. And it's crazy because they are unaccountable to anybody. I mean, is this a – and it really speaks to what this government is. My favorite group of people in all of this are the libertarians who should be on the side of the free speech of the individual, but instead are on the side of free speech for the massive multinational corporations and the oligarchs behind them. The reason I love it is because they hate them. Mark Zuckerberg,
Starting point is 00:28:40 Facebook, they hate libertarians. They despise them. They ban them and shut them down. And so you have like, there's three groups right now. You've got the Democrat, large left umbrella, which includes some leftists who, as Glenn Greenwald, I think it was Glenn Greenwald who said this, they're the one group of people with the least ability to learn because they advocate for censorship and then they keep getting censored. You have conservatives who are like, well, we normally don't, we aren't for regulation. But in this instance, we recognize the importance of it and we must have our rights protected.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And I'm like, makes sense to me. And then you have libertarians who are like, we are being banned and smeared and insulted. I hope Facebook has the right to remove us because in 20 years, our ideology won't exist anymore. That's what, it's the't exist anymore. That's it. It's the most amazing thing. The libertarians. I don't know. I had a long argument a couple of years ago with this libertarian guy.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And he's like, we shouldn't be telling what these private businesses can or can't do. And I was like, bro, fine. I don't care. I was like, I'm not I'm not I'm not right. I'm not in your bubble. So when you when Facebook decides to delete every single libertarian candidate and every single libertarian personality, which they're going to do, and they do, anti-war.comference. We had Scott Horton in here. He got anti-war.com got censored.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Why? It's anti-establishment. They want war. They want bombs. So they get banned too. And then they advocate for their own banning. It's remarkable. Like, well, they shouldn't ban us, I guess, but it is a private company.
Starting point is 00:30:02 All right. Well, in five years, you won't be a part of the conversation and i won't have to argue with any with you anymore so whatever right there should also be a distinction i mean i'm i'm not actually for making this distinction because i think that both of these things both you know the social media companies and google you know and other search engine companies um i mean, we have the same problem with both of them, right? But the libertarians and the phony conservatives will, you know, I mean, they will say that, you know, Facebook and these social media companies, you know, that you have alternatives. You don't have to exist on them.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Right. But as far as the search engine goes, I mean, Google is really the institutional memory of Western civilization at this point. And you take something out of the search engine, and it's gone. I often see stories pop up from the Gateway Pundit. Yeah. And I'm not a big fan of using them for the most part. You know, they have some credibility for some writers.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But I'll see a story and I'll be like, okay, I want to fact check this. And I'll go on Google and I'll type it in. It doesn't come up. There's a bunch of sites that are just non-existent on Google. Andrew Yang put it really well when he was talking about antitrust not being the right answer. There needs to be something else when he said,
Starting point is 00:31:20 how many of you want to use Bing? And everyone laughs. He's like, exactly. Nobody's going to use Bing. It's like Google is the service. Google is what people use. But DuckDuckGo is moving in and it's an opportunity to use something. The problem is we're trying to market, right? That's the thing. I invent, look at this, I got a bottle of water and I want to get this bottle of water to as many people as possible. So you go where the people are. Facebook and Google have bought up the largest spaces and they're now privately owned public spaces. Do you know what a Pops is in New York, a privately
Starting point is 00:31:56 owned public space? No. So this is what happened with Occupy Wall Street, Zuccotti. Where they had the protest was privately owned, but because it was open to the public, they couldn't evict the protesters. They were allowed to protest there. So I tried explaining this to people. I'm like, okay, check it out. So the ultra-rich people, like Deutsche Bank or whatever, they have these privately-owned public spaces, and the courts ruled that you can privately own
Starting point is 00:32:18 them, but as long as you welcome the public in, you can't shut down First Amendment activity. So Occupy Wall Street was allowed to stay so long as they like. What's, you can't shut down First Amendment activity. So Occupy Wall Street was allowed to stay so long as they like. What's the benefit of owning them then? So they buy property for the property value. But then what do you do with it? They turn it into a public space and just let it be a park or something. There's probably some right off there somewhere, some city benefit. I'm sure there's some right off there.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But regardless, I don't know exactly other than if you're open to the public, then First Amendment rights apply to you, not to them. Right. And so now you have Twitter. It is a public space, a public forum. It's already been ruled a public forum in the past, although that did get overturned by the Supreme Court. People go there to speak. A private corporation owns it. They should not have the right to shut down the speech of an individual. If we're to operate under the assumption that this is a violation of Twitter's free speech rights, then you're suggesting that Twitter
Starting point is 00:33:11 is speaking for us. Like when I tweet with my face next to my words, you're saying Twitter is being compelled to speak. No, it isn't. It's a utility. It's a platform. Everyone knows Twitter didn't say that. So what's the excuse? That's it. It's just a lie because they know. Right now the Democrats are like, look, these people who run these companies are on our side. So we'll just agree with them. Conservatives, they're getting wiped out.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And I think that was a huge contributing factor to Trump losing in 2020. I'm finding it's a very different situation to walk into Twitter's, one of their buildings, and start saying what you think and then getting arrested or taken out by their public private security. That's fine. Yeah, it's a private building. But when you use a service online, it's not a private building anymore.
Starting point is 00:33:57 So their right to censor you and stop you seems to end at the door of their headquarters or of their owned property. So that's kind of the way I'm looking at it. If you set up your business in Walmart, Walmart can shut you down at will. But if you have a business on YouTube, you're not in YouTube's building anymore. You're not on their property. The big problem, I think, is, for one, people need to sue more.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Conservatives should have been suing. And you know what really annoys me is I hear from all these conservative lawyers, you can't because you're going to lose because of this precedent. I don't care. Just sue. Just sue. Just sue. James O'Keefe.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Look at that guy. Yes. He's like, fire the missiles. You know, and he just goes for it. And then he actually ends up winning, defeating a motion to dismiss in the New York Times case. Everyone said it can't be done until he did it too many too many people aren't pushing back they're getting censored they don't sue a lot of people sue and they lose but good for them for at least trying set precedent get better arguments i mean all of this too is like um you know they're they're
Starting point is 00:35:01 trying to they're trying whatever arguments that they can come up with because what they really want to do is they really want to control the flow of information. And their worldview has been rocked to its core by Trump's victory and by the fact that there is stuff out there online that they don't like. They thought they would be ushering in a new era of online, you know, woke, you know, new consciousness where everything they didn't see that, that, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:32 there would be an underbelly. I mean, the underbelly is us. You know what I think? They didn't see it. I grew up online. I've had the internet as long as I can remember. My family had CompuServe on DOS or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Then we had CompuServe on Windows and then we had AOL. so i've been in the chat rooms and i have been exposed to the nastiness that is the internet my whole life and i knew the trolls and the hackers and the memes so growing up i'm like welcome to the internet but a lot of these people they probably did not have the internet at a young age that i a lot of people i went to school with didn't have computers. So it was a time when I'm a little kid. I have a Windows 3.1 machine. Not everybody had a computer in their house. They weren't using AOL. Not only that, if the parents were, they're not letting their kids go in a chat room and
Starting point is 00:36:15 hear the nasty adult stuff. So what happens is these millennials, they grow up and it's not until they're teens, they actually get on the internet. And they're in more safe environments with more restrictions. Now they're adults and they're, oh no, people are saying mean things online. How can this be? And interestingly, you know, Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey have decided to side with that faction. Why? It's really simple.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Take a conservative, take a liberal, put them in a room, and then yell a curse word. Guess who's going to care? Guess who's going to care? Guess who's going to scream. Yeah. And so if you're running a business and you're selling donuts and then you have a conservative and a liberal there and one of your employees stubs his toe and screams, ah, F, guess which one's going to complain? So are they going to do in any way pander to the ideology of the conservative who didn't care someone blurted out a cuss word? Right. Or are they going to go to the Karen and the conservative? Who didn't care someone blurted out a cuss word? Or are they going to go to the Karen and be like... But that's 1.0.
Starting point is 00:37:09 I think what you're describing is kind of 1.0. At 2.0, where we're at, or whatever number we're at, you've got 80% of the company, let's say from middle management on down, that is totally woke, that is going to revolt if you don't do anything exactly so you know so if you're running the company i mean i i know people who or heard of people who um you know feel like they're not in control of their own company that's kind of sad it is kind of sad it's you know once you let it grow to be too big and you know what this don't hire woke
Starting point is 00:37:45 don't hire woke don't hire woke if you're hiring woke then you don't know the game never get investors don't take investments if you don't need them right don't take investments man so you look at like the intercept with glenn greenwald get well go broke yeah glenn greenwald had to resign from his own company he had no control over it created a monster, and now it's just rampaging around. It's a bummer. I mean, good for him for speaking out against it, but he made this machine. Of course. He has no control over it.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And they won. I mean, he's doing great work outside of that organization. And they've got his funding. But yeah, right. How many years did he spend putting his credibility on the line, asking for the money? The Intercept right now is a skin suit with some kind of skinwalker inside of it.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And it's like, you know, Edgar from Men in Black. You know, when the bug alien is in the Edgar suit. Social justice! That's what it is. The New York Times is the same way.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It just keeps happening. And, yeah. And, look, I mean, they're like, you know, digital Hessians for Antifa, too. Because they'll go and they'll, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:55 they'll serve the purpose of marking the target. Well, what a pessimistic Friday night. Oh, we can keep going. I wanted to talk... No, no. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:39:05 We mentioned earlier that we were talking about that gain of function. This is a little, going back to what we were talking about earlier, that you'd said in that story that the U.S. made it illegal
Starting point is 00:39:14 to do gain of function research. Is that right? It was temporarily outlawed. Oh, so it's legal again. No, I think they shut it down recently. So then they were paying a company to fund it in China instead? No, the money was, a grant was given to Eco company to fund it in china instead no the money
Starting point is 00:39:25 was a grant was given to eco health and then eco health gave the money to one so it's like we didn't not our business where else are they doing gain of function research that we're paying for everywhere but we're not paying for we're paying someone else to pay for for us with our money right as if you know as if uh you know the other countries in the world can't also pay for this. Yeah. I mean, imagine how much of this stuff is going on at all times right now in any number of labs around the world. Probably a lot. It's probably creepy. I'm sure it's a lot worse than we realize, though.
Starting point is 00:39:59 You know, you have this one lab in Wuhan where they're doing this research. Imagine what the U.S. government has under lock. Area 51. Yeah, if they're going to be providing funding to different labs in other countries, imagine what they do when they actually have their hands on the project. You know what I mean? When I heard about the story immediately, I thought maybe this
Starting point is 00:40:18 is like a CIA black site type of thing. Yeah. Where they say, you know what? The really sketchy stuff, we're going to put it abroad. Yeah. We'll underwrite it. That makes sense. We'll put it abroad, the really sketchy stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:30 But it's exactly the opposite. When you're dealing with sensitive things like this, it's not like a CIA black site in Egypt where a jihadi guy is getting his- His balls chopped off. Something's happening. Sure, yeah. Something's happening. But like, there's limited fallout from that compared to a Wuhan virus.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Play dangerous games, man. Win dangerous prizes. Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, David, can we talk about your book for a minute? Sure. A minute. I'll hold it up.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah, so this is about Qatar. You said that there was a shadow. What's it called exactly? It's Qatar's Shadow War, the Islamist Emirate, and its information operations in the United States. So the first thing I thought was this is an American shadow war in Qatar. But you were saying there's actually, how do you say it, a Qatarese? What's the word? Qatari.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Qatari. This is a Qatari shadow war basically being waged upon the united states well in the united in the united states for their let's say in the media and government of the united states for uh you know for qatar's advantage and for the advantage of islamism um it's um i I mean, kind of a really short story is Qatar is the state sponsor of the Muslim Brotherhood. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And they run Al Jazeera Plus. They run Al Jazeera Plus. That ultra-woke network with billions of views on Facebook. And they run a lot of other stuff, too. I mean, they run, you know, Brookings. Interesting. The oldest and biggest think tank
Starting point is 00:42:04 in the world. Wow, yeah. They run Brookings. I oldest and biggest think tank in the world. They run Brookings. I mean, to the extent that run, it's very creatively described. So they will go, they will be big donors into Brookings, the U.S., but then they have a franchise. So they have Brookings Doha, which is owned by the royal family of Qatar that's in Qatar. And, you know, that's a black box of funding. They don't have to tell us how much money comes in there.
Starting point is 00:42:34 So they use that brand as legitimacy. So what are they doing? What are they doing to us? So basically they're doing a couple things. I argue that the Arab Spring that happened in, let's say, late 2010 up until 2011 was a project of the Qataris through Al Jazeera and the Brotherhood to destabilize the Middle East. Really? Al Jazeera was, let's say, the primary mover of a lot of those protests. And not only that, it was between Al Jazeera and Brookings and all the other assets that Qatar had in the United States,
Starting point is 00:43:12 it was able to convince journalists and politicians and influencers of other types that these governments in the Middle East that have supported us and we've supported for all these years, we should not support Mubarak. We should support the revolution against him, let's say in Egypt. And the same thing in Libya.
Starting point is 00:43:35 The Libya war was a total Al Jazeera, Qatari production. I mean, Hillary Clinton really wanted that. Yes. What did she say, though? We came, we saw, he died. No. She said, look at this. She was in front of the Senate, and she went on and on about how wonderful Al Jazeera coverage is.
Starting point is 00:43:51 She said, her quote was, that is real news. But was it because they were supporting what she wanted? Yes. So there was an alignment there. What I believe she wanted there was, and what the whole Obama crowd wanted with Libya, was they wanted an opportunity. They saw what was on Al Jazeera. They saw the whole Arab world lining up against Gaddafi. And they thought, okay, Bush is gone.
Starting point is 00:44:21 We want to start a new leaf. We've made the Cairo speech. We want to be good to Muslims. We want to do a new leaf. We've made the Cairo speech. We want to be good to Muslims. We want to do something to make the Muslim world like us. All they care about is getting rid of Gaddafi. We're going to get rid of Gaddafi.
Starting point is 00:44:35 And, you know, and we're going to show them that we're good. Destabilize the entire northern African region? Destabilize everything, right? Yeah. So all of the
Starting point is 00:44:46 information for this came from al jazeera it came from sort of you know qatari influence operators but i wonder if they were just doing what we want they're just doing what what hillary clinton and and obama what what they wanted in north africa i mean especially when you look at syria with the cutter turkey pipeline sure it would have been a white very beneficial to cutter but uh what they wanted in North Africa. I mean, especially when you look at Syria with the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. Sure, it would have been very beneficial to Qatar, but the U.S. wanted to run a pipeline up through Syria and Turkey into Europe to offset the monopoly coming from Gazprom through Ukraine. And Qatar was like, we'll make money doing it, I guess, so let's just say what they want.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Say what America wants. America gives us stuff. We're going to make money on the deal. So report what's good for them. Yeah, I think they're dumber than that. I mean, they seem to be successful. Yeah, I legit think that they're more ideological than that. I mean, it's a mix, right?
Starting point is 00:45:42 It's a mix. I mean, there's plenty of... I mean, the Libya thing is a great example because you've got Sidney Blumenthal, you know, ready to make millions in there. There are a lot of shady, shady stuff as far as, you know, politicians or people connected to politicians involved in that who are standing to make money off, let's say, post-war Libya. But still, regardless, there's a story that needs to be told in public for anything to happen. You know, you're talking about the Syria thing. Right. People need a public narrative. People need a public narrative for Libya, too. Regular Americans, man, it's just, it's maddening.
Starting point is 00:46:24 When I try to have sit down conversations and they just don't know don't care and i'm like you're giving your money and your vote to people who hate you and are destroying the planet and they're like now do you think they always didn't care yes that's that's that's effective propagandizing you know and when you look at these schools, how they're doing critical race theory, which is making a lot of these kids just – I mean, was that report that came out, like the U.S. is failing? Fourth graders are proficiency in science like 20% or some ridiculously low number because they don't know anything. Critical race theory, deconstructivism, whatever you want to call it, what they're doing, deconstruction.
Starting point is 00:47:04 These kids are going to be dumb as a box of rocks when they're older. Sure. And you're going to have a very, very loyal base of dumb people voting for whatever you tell them to vote for. What's the point of running a country? What's the point of anything they're doing? That's why I say they're extracting value from the system and watching it burn to the ground. Because if your kids are going to be dumb, when you die, you'll have dumb
Starting point is 00:47:26 people running the country worse than the dumb people running it now. So I think we're screwed with that. They go for the kids. They teach them things like 2 plus 2 equals 5. You saw this stuff right on Twitter. Why would you teach a kid 2 plus 2 equals 5? So they're too stupid to build a...
Starting point is 00:47:42 to construct like a doorknob. Oh, I got two pieces. But how do I have four doorknobs? It's like, right. And I'm one door on the same token. You've got the coddling of the American mind. What is it? Jonathan Haidt.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Yeah. Who wrote that that this whole thing, you know, all of wokeness could be understood to be a, know like how do you make someone crazy how do you make someone crazy how do you make someone anti-social how do you make someone in unable to relate to you know to others and that's what they're doing yeah and then they're creating a a pitchfork mob that's what it is on twitter there's people marching around torches and pitchforks looking for something because they're angry and No rhyme or reason. Talk about wearing masks and being afraid that someone else is infected with a virus, making people antisocial, especially like young kids that can't see faces. You can't be forced to cover yourself.
Starting point is 00:48:35 I mean, but specifically in reference to educating kids and educating them in ways that make no sense. It's a wonderful coincidence. Two plus two equals five is the big one. Telling people, altering the history of the United States. Now what you're going to have is you're going to have some kids growing up learning about ridiculous fake history and other kids learning different history. And what's the result? Civil war.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah. No, we have other options. Peaceful divorce. other options peaceful civil war is i mean we we even have things that we need to do before a peaceful divorce which is um which is a piece that i wrote that i'm still preparing it's a longer thing called autonomy um which talks about the need for let's say red america to create the things that frankly we don't have like uh like financial institutions like social media networks no i like you know this is this is this i think this is a problem the problem is that the the the the cult infiltrated and took them over and then conservatives are like well i'll go make my
Starting point is 00:49:38 own it's like what you had one they took it from you well they may have taken some businesses but like they didn't when people say, let's take back the culture. We never had the culture. The culture was always in the hands of the Federal Reserve, you know, organization in the hands of the left. Well, right. That's the left. But but no, I mean, I think we need autonomy. We need to be making our own things.
Starting point is 00:50:00 And I mean, doing what you're doing. It's true. And here's what i think is going to happen in 20 years you're going to have a large amount half population are going to believe the united states was founded in 1619 as a slavocracy true and then you're going to have another half that thinks the country was founded in 1776 as a classical liberal revolution of the mind uh you know from the colonists If you can't agree on what your country is, then you can't function. And we're already at the point where, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:32 I look at Chuck Schumer and the January 6th commission. These people are evil, evil people. It's funny because you can look at objective reality. Look at all of the videos. I watched as many videos from January 6th as much as I could. And I can tell you that there were some people who were very violent. It was a riot. There were some people that were let in by the police and the police agreed to work with them. The police opened the door for many of these people. So how do I know it's more likely to be true? That's the case. I watched all of the videos and I've had the reporters who were there on the ground interviewed on this show. And what the Democrats are saying is psychotic.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It is deception. It is lies. And the Democratic voters buy it all up without ever having looked at any of the evidence, without ever having watched anything. They are mindless drones and they're advocating for fascism. And I mean it. Homeland Security State has done to address the January 6th issue. And it's a revolution. I mean, they're retooling everything from... They're flying Black Lives Matter flags at our embassies.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Yeah. That's it. There is a cold civil war. It's been going on for years. I did not coin the phrase. It was a Princeton professor who did. He's a Democrat. And they won.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Now it's the resistance most of the prominent uh we'll call them belligerents in the traditional war sense have been purged from the culture war sure alex jones milo john f kennedy martin luther king i mean this has been going on for a long time dude this cold civil war this country was co-opted in 1946 talking specifically about what's going on right now you're talking talking about modern day, I get it. A bunch of people have been banned and removed from the fight outright. What's left are moderate types that are like, I reject.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And that's it. And we watch as the embassies fly the flag of a cult ideology. I think this has been going on for a long time. You see it. I see it. What fascinates me now are the people who refuse to see it. And I just wrote a piece at the American Mind, which is a fantastic website about a fundamental disagreement about where you see these things going, like if you think that, oh, you know, we'll be able to snap back into 1980 or 19 or, or, or,
Starting point is 00:53:12 you know, 2004, then you know what? Maybe we don't talk about politics. We'll talk about music. We're just not going to go there because this to me seems like, like such a no brainer. I mean, you had today, I saw a guy who was a kind of more nice guy, but a kind of more establishment conservative writer. He says, you know what, we can't, between CRT on one hand and let's say the conservative vision
Starting point is 00:53:37 of education, of the founding, on the other, we have no disagreement. We have no agreement. So we can't really have public education anymore because it doesn't have a unifying you know ethos like okay you got it apply that to the rest of the country so if conservatives aren't actively trying to educate people as to what's going on then the left just wins it's over and it's already hard enough with the cultural institutions controlled by the left and the constant stream of lies.
Starting point is 00:54:08 The big lie from Democrats about January 6th is just one big lie. They don't want you to know that the police opened the door. They don't want you to know that the doors were opened by the cops. And they don't want you to watch the video where that Q shaman walks up to a cop and the cop says, we're going to work with you. Be peaceful. He goes, you got it, buddy. And they don't tell you. They don't want you to know that a story came out about the Q shaman stopping other people from stealing from the break room, that he was saying we were going to have a peaceful protest. No, they want him to rot in solitary confinement. Then you watch as police over the past year. This is the problem with conservatives. Police over the past year have been arresting people for minor violations on like wearing masks
Starting point is 00:54:45 there's no law there was never a law when they shut your when they shut these people's business down it was an edict a governor said i say it and it is so and the cop went you got it and then started beating and arresting random people and the conservatives went back the blue baby now once it started getting extreme conservatives actually started backing away from the police and pushing back against them but it's starting to come back to the I'm seeing more and more conservatives are defending the cops again. And I'm like, bro, there's a lady in Florida. I think. No, no, I'm sorry. Elizabeth City, North Carolina. She was driving one mile an hour through a crowd of Black Lives Matter people who are banging on her car and they're charging her
Starting point is 00:55:19 with two felony counts. The police did that. OK, your institutions are controlled by the cult. The cops that are there right now are the mindless drones who would beat their own mother. If their boss told them to do it, you've got black lives matter flags flying at the embassies. You've got the FBI posting photos of people saying, we're going to get each and every one of these guys. Nothing happens to black lives matter. Some things do, you know, you know, you know how you, there's a really interesting pattern that emerges. The people who are protesting for Black Lives Matter and rioting. The ones who are rioting and they got arrested. Do you know
Starting point is 00:55:52 why those particular individuals got arrested? It's usually like they threw a brick at a police department. They attacked a government building specifically. But when it comes to the burning down of businesses those people are free to go. The guy who died in the pawn shop that burned down in Minneapolis? No, we're not going to worry about that at all.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Oh, but what was that? That Bubba dude from NASCAR? The garage puller-up looked like a noose. Better send in a dozen agents. So this is definitional anarcho-tyranny. Yes. Exactly. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Well, maybe, but no, I think the cult is in control. And I think conservatives. Sure. I mean, you can say. Don't fight. Well, right. So you can say that, you know, in in in in many ways, BLM, Antifa are agents of the state. They are absolutely agents of the state, you know, and, you know, and and if you, you know, you fall outside that, you know, you're on the right and if you you know you fall outside that you know
Starting point is 00:56:45 you're on the right you're a uh you know that's exactly how it works then i can i can get screwed and the hammer comes down but but a mythology has to be created in order for this thing to hold a mythology has to be created about our unique particular evil which is what january 6th is right which is the you know and the commission is this is the idea. What we're going to do now is we're going to spend the next X number of months to keep hammering home every day that, you know, why these guys are uniquely evil, why this is the enemy that you need to hate if you are a good American. Yep. And Republicans sided with Democrats on this one in the House and in the Senate. Yeah. Look, I mean, it's shameful. It's shameful that that I mean, forget about Trump. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:29 This is not even about Trump. It's about it's about sort of to, you know, they're trying to create this phantom enemy. If this is a trilogy, we just wrapped up the middle, the second movie, where it ends with a cliffhanger where the heroes lose. No, the two towers ended with them smashing up Isengard. That was awesome. Treebeard beard he's like we're going to war and i'm like yeah no it's more like uh um maybe star wars where you know an empire it's like khan's frozen and like the empire's back and they're like oh no and it's like stay tuned to the next movie so it's like you get the start of the culture war and it ends with the
Starting point is 00:58:21 great victory of donald trump and everyone's like yeah then you get part two and it's with the great victory of Donald Trump and everyone's like, yeah. Then you get part two and it's Donald Trump's presidency, but then, oh no! The Empire strikes back. And now we're sitting there with the mega Death Star with the force field on it and we'll see how it goes. Maybe someone will pick up the Emperor and throw him down a shaft. Or maybe we're
Starting point is 00:58:39 really early in the movie. So it's part one. That's what I was thinking. Or even in the prequels. In the pre what i was thinking you know really or even in the even in the prequels um the prequels yeah i mean who knows i mean it's that bad right uh and i don't know like you know in the star wars prequels they were there were there was turmoil but it was still like the republic existed yeah let me yeah maybe maybe let me ask you i know we're i was just talking earlier about Strauss and Howe and the fourth turning. Yes. Do you know John Zanakis and generational dynamics?
Starting point is 00:59:10 No, don't explain it. You need to get into this guy. When I was helping Andrew Breitbart put together Big Peace, he was the first guy that I reached out to, John Zanakis, who has a website called generational dynamics basically the strauss and howe thesis is that you know america has four turns four turns four turns and it keeps seasons keeps going different seasons of generations so just we'll give the for people who aren't familiar the real quick is you get a period of, what is it, after a crisis, there's like a great growth. Then there's a period of sort of like the high, we level off.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Then things start to shake. Then you get a crisis. Then it goes, after the crisis, things get better again. So there's four stages. And if you go back from now, like 80 years, you had World War II. Before that, you had the Civil War. Before that, you had the Revolutionary War. It's a cycle of approximately 80 years.
Starting point is 01:00:04 So we're in the fourth turning right now right so anyway continue anyway yeah yeah so i mean which isn't real quick sorry which means we should be expecting a very serious crisis on the scale of war within the next seven years right generational crisis period right so i mean it's not it's not new it's he's taking the cycle of regimes and he's compressing it and looking at it a different way. Anyway, what Xenakis was doing was he's applying this to international affairs. So if you're looking at like America is following along one particular rotation. Let's say you're talking about America and England. England has its own rotation.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Right. Iraq has its own rotation. Right. Iraq has its own rotation. So it enables you to predict what is going to happen in war and in these things. Well, no, I mean, it's a methodology more than a, you know, more than a particular. I think there's going to be a collapse. If you look at this Strassau generational theory, whether it's true or not, I mean, maybe it's just a coincidence that we've had these periods.
Starting point is 01:01:12 And often, you know, people point out, like, what about Korean War, about Vietnam? What about, you know, Iraq and Afghanistan? Where do these fit into these theories and things like that? So maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't. But I do see when you have the Democrats lying and it is relentless, it is a zombie horde.
Starting point is 01:01:32 They never stop. There's no break. There's no calm. There's no peace. There's no compromise. And the best part is they wield the propaganda machines and the big tech establishment to claim it's the Republicans who are doing that when the Republicans are sleeping on the job. So what happens is I sit here are doing that when the Republicans are sleeping on the job.
Starting point is 01:01:46 So what happens is I sit here every day. At best, they're sleeping on the job. Yeah, some of them are just absent. So I sit here every day watching the news and I'm like, here we go again. The Democrats are lying about everything. And the Republicans have some of them are agreeing with the Democrats and the rest of them are just sitting there acting like speed bumps. So you watch them. You watch the empire taking control. And I really want to stress a point I've been
Starting point is 01:02:09 making all week when people would say, how did Nazi Germany get so bad where everybody's doing the Roman salute? People in this country for the past year have been doing the red salute on marches in the thousands, defying the edicts of the governors in which conservatives got arrested because they were defying the mandates. Yet these red saluting extremists and regular people who joined in get a pass. They didn't wear masks. They didn't lock down and nothing was done about it. And when you look at New York, what did de Blasio say?
Starting point is 01:02:40 Well, they're allowed to do that. But what happened when the conservatives stood on the steps of the Michigan Statehouse waving a little Gadsden flag? Oh, it was a terrorist attack. Yeah. We'll have to be careful because the people doing the red salute could be, if you look at World War II metaphor, the communists, that they developed the Nazi party to counter. So we've got to be careful that we don't end up creating a movement to counter this woke mob that ends up becoming the dangerous Nazis. I don't think there's anything you can do about it.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Nope. What do you mean? Of course we can. No. We're creating it as we go. No. See, what happens is for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. When you get thousands of people marching through the streets doing the red salute, don't be surprised when you get a counterforce.
Starting point is 01:03:22 You'll have an energetically equal response, but the way it manifests is up to us it could be violent it could be peaceful it could be organized it could be chaotic it's going to be the exact same thing i don't think so it it shows itself in different ways it might be another party like you saw the proud boys kind of but that that floundered more or less i don't know they got crushed by the state yeah and antifa is protected by anything. Anything that comes up by from the right that looks anything like Antifa is going to be crushed. Yeah. They don't want another. That's what that's exactly what January
Starting point is 01:03:51 6th is about. That's what it's about. It's in order to stop that. And frankly, it's in order to to to stop any more rallies. Right. And people are afraid to have rallies. You have a rally and they're going to make the claim January 6th, January 6th. So no. Yep. Correct. And and they have I mean, part of afraid to have rallies. You have a rally and they're going to make the claim January 6th, January 6th, so no. Correct.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Correct. And they have, I mean, part of, you know, in my kind of past life I was doing terrorism analysis. And, you know, so I'm kind of intimately familiar with what they're about to do to us here, which is, you know, they've already created these absurd metrics. They've already created, you know, ideological screens and tests for who is a terrorist. And all of us here, frankly, you know, fall under it. Oh, yeah. And, you know, and this is how they will justify. I mean, you know, this is how they will justify using social media companies to go after us.
Starting point is 01:04:46 You know, financial institutions, things like that. So it's bad. It's very bad. You look back at history and you can see the assassination plots against certain, you know, according to the government, the undesirable figures, the activists who are leading the charges for social change and stuff. So they should have killed people. But at a certain point, they realized you create martyrs, you make people immortal. Then we see Julian Assange. What do they do to him? Character assassination. Keep him in a box.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Character assassination. Destroy his legacy. Now, the left that used to love the man, hate the man, they despise him. He's a rapist. It's not true. Read the news. It's all clearly fake and made up. And then lock him in a box and let him slowly die a slow and miserable death julian assange did a bunch of really great work exposing a lot of the corruption and so they figured out the best way to deal with him is to make sure he'll never be a martyr don't let him die let him slowly rot away and lose his mental faculties and then accuse him of extremely heinous crimes so that people are scared to say they support him that's what's in store for everybody. But it also means that there's not going to be trains. They're not going to round people up.
Starting point is 01:05:48 That's not going to happen. What's going to happen is they're going to shut off your credit card, and then you're going to starve. And then they're going to say, well, but it's a private company. Oh, but go use your U.S. dollars. Go buy. Oh, but the store doesn't take cash. Well, that's too bad.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Maybe you shouldn't be a bigot. Bigot. My friend just lost her PayPal. Why? She has no idea gone yep you know she's public and on the right it could be anything yeah and uh you know take away your access to banking which they've done to the proud boys they've done to a bunch of groups it's amazing it's happening and it's getting worse every day what did they say yesterday gradually and then suddenly someone said in the super chats yeah and it's and it's getting worse every day. What did they say yesterday? Gradually and then suddenly, someone said in the Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Yeah. And it's remarkable that. That's my line. It comes from Hemingway. Yeah. It's how do you go broke? Yep. Gradually and then suddenly from a movable feast.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So what we have now is I think I don't think it's the night is always darkest before the dawn. But I don't think it's completely hopeless. I think what will happen is there will be a collapse. I think the states will split apart. I think Florida, Ron DeSantis is – I know people who – if I have a friend who's moving, you know where they're moving to? Texas or Florida. Sure. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And I'm like, come on, West Virginia. What are you doing? Get on it. How do you compete with – I got mansion though. How do you compete with the beach? It's very hard. Yeah, but the weather.
Starting point is 01:07:07 It's so humid. It's so hot. It's very hard. It's like 10,000 degrees. Literally. I swear I saw someone just like burst into flames, spontaneously combust once when I was in Miami. And I'm like, ah! I had to run to shade.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Have you seen The Core where they go to the center of the earth to reset the core? There's a scene where like... Oh, so it's a documentary. Yeah. There's a scene where like because the magnetosphere is weak, solar microwaves beam through and it's like this beam is just melting
Starting point is 01:07:35 like the Golden Gate Bridge and it's collapsing because it's so hot. That's like Miami. It's like that, yeah. Like you're just walking on the beach, you see everyone runs from the sun and people are just being melted. No, it's not that bad. But they're going to Florida and Texas because of the beach. You see everyone runs from the sun. People are just being melted. No, it's not that bad.
Starting point is 01:07:46 But they're going to Florida and Texas because of the laws. Because Florida and Texas are actually protecting individual rights and resisting all this stuff. You look at these blue states. That's bad. And what's really bad is the stuff we're talking about with the cult, it's blue states putting in people at the federal level who then exert authority over red states. Makes no sense. Somebody in West Virginia wants to go hunt feral hogs with their buddy down the street and they lend them a gun. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Not in the blue states. I think that we've been negligent about a lot of local politics in this country. Every four years, we have this big nonsense going have this every four years. We have this big nonsense going on in Washington, D.C. about who gets to be the president. We've got big nonsense every two years about Congress, et cetera, et cetera. Nobody knows who their senator is.
Starting point is 01:08:38 People know maybe who their senator is. Nobody knows who their representative is. Nobody knows who the mayor is, et cetera, et cetera. We in red states need to sit down and get into this. Yes. Local. Yes. All the way. People ask me, oh, you know, do you think so and so will be, you know, we'll run for the House? Who cares? I don't care. You know, it really bothered me. A lot of Republicans did this, too. They were like, my you know, our district is bad. And if you vote for me, I'll fix the district. And I'm like i'm like no you won't because you're a federal politician the person who's going to fix the district is the alderman it's or the or
Starting point is 01:09:08 the local state senator or state rep the person running for congress is going to go to the federal government to represent your district to the federal government they're going to be voting on war not voting on whether or not to claim the trash in your neighborhood but they all run on this yep what do they say like i'll get money federal money for you it's often vague it's like if you look at our district you can see how bad things have gotten with crime on the rise and i'm like i don't care you don't represent those problems the local politicians do you're going to go to dc and they're going to ask you should we bomb this country and you're representing this district as to whether or not we bomb the country and they're going to vote yes i think the nice thing about the internet is that you can do the local politics and show the world
Starting point is 01:09:49 how it's done with internet video and then they can emulate it so you kind of create a decentralized organizational you know pattern where where we can make a really cool youtube show about what it's like to run local government i got in the next city you'll be like i want to do that too and then all over the world at once. I've got a solution. I've got a solution to all of our political problems. I call it Marsism. Yes. And we need Elon Musk to help create this new form of government.
Starting point is 01:10:16 It's very simple. Every time someone runs for office at the federal level and wins, they go on to a ship which sends them to Mars. That's it. That's it. That's a long commute to work. No, no, they just go to Mars. They just go. We just move the government.
Starting point is 01:10:34 No, the government, the individuals who win. It's like, yay, get on the ship. Bye. What if it's better on Mars? That's great. Good for them.
Starting point is 01:10:42 They'll have a good time, right? And then we won't have them to bug us. I guess that's true. I? That's great. Good for them. They'll have a good time, right? And then we won't have them to bug us. I guess that's true. I guess that's true. Nancy Pelosi, you've won for the 30th time. Here's your rocket ship. Thank you, Elon.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And then she gets in and it's like, you know what we do? I would do that to the teachers' unions first. Oh, yeah, yeah. We put the Capitol building. I got an idea. This January 6th thing. It's real bad. These people, this insurrection.
Starting point is 01:11:08 I know how to prevent it. Have the Capitol building be on Mars. Boom. Send all of those people to Mars, and they can talk amongst themselves and vote how they so choose. And they'll never have to worry about an insurrection ever again. Reasonable. I think you're so right about that we need new industry, that we need new banking and new social media. I think I see a government-free software social media service
Starting point is 01:11:35 that's based on the First Amendment, the Constitution, and a banking system on the blockchain. Do it at a local level. Florida should make it. No joke. And then extrapolate it. Everybody has a role to play. Think about this.
Starting point is 01:11:48 You know, Donald Trump received how many votes in 2020? Like what? 75. 74.2. 74.2. That's about the population
Starting point is 01:11:56 of France. It's more than France, isn't it? Right? So, okay. France is like 66. So how many, sure,
Starting point is 01:12:02 how many businesses provide things for the French consumer? A lot. This is a big market. I mean, it's not a small number of people. Texas, Florida, here's what you do. You pass a bill right now that will create a Florida social network. Boom.
Starting point is 01:12:22 That'd be epic. Look, Hungary just did this. Yeah. They just created their own social network that is familiar to Facebook. Hungry book. It's just trying to get off the ground, but you're going to
Starting point is 01:12:36 need this type of thing. You're going to need this type of thing. People wouldn't use it. I guess the problem is Trump had the opportunity to change the game, and he decided not to. Exactly. He didn't know. Trump needed to do one thing.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Trump could have went on Gab and said, hi. Yep. And that would have been a shockwave. I think about that with myself, too. I use Twitter often. And I'm like, why don't I just post on Twitter? It's not that. It's that Trump commanded the news.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Exactly. often and i'm like why don't i just post on it's not that it's that trump no it's commanded the news exactly and so if trump said if trump went on parlor gab or mines or any platform and said i am going to send a spaceship to the moon the media would be forced to report on you know gab donald trump said this and the reporters would be forced to sign up to follow him and trump would not do it and i guess it was because jared k, who was just like, don't do it, Donald. Don't don't change. Don't take the power away from Silicon Valley. I'm not sure that that was the case. The reporting was that Trump wanted to use Parler and Kushner said not to. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Maybe it's not true. I don't I don't know. I mean, I would love to know the ins and outs of that. But but look, it's absolutely it's absolutely inexcusable what he did. And this is why I think DeSantis should run in 2024 and not Trump. And I wonder where's Trump Jr. to go to his dad and be like, dad, get on Gab like right now. Isn't it too late? Oh, it's way too late.
Starting point is 01:14:00 It's way too late. And not only that, instead of doing any of that, he could. He could still do it. It wouldn't matter as much. He just makes his own website. Talk about somebody who just – Cringe. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Cringe. So it's unfortunate. That was the best the anti-establishment had to offer. But this was a problem throughout the Trump years, which was that he consistently empowered – I mean, look, you're the president of the United States. You can say, I'm going to talk to whoever, whichever media outlet I want, and in so doing, you will elevate this outlet. Who did he go to? He talked to New York Times,
Starting point is 01:14:36 Washington Post, you know? Haberman, he was on the phone with her all hours of the night, you know, it was reported. Like, you know, I'm sorry, call the Federalist. Call the hours of the night you know it was reported like you know i'm sorry call the federalist call the daily caller you know yeah there's no there's no law that says the new york times and the washington post need to have access it's because republicans trump included care more about what the new york times thinks about them than their own constituents maybe not so much for trump but but for the Republicans, yes. So the New York Times comes out and says,
Starting point is 01:15:08 you know, this politician... Look at Ted Cruz, right, when he went on vacation. And then he flew back because the media was yelling at him. That's so lame. What a loser. You think he should have stayed? I like Ted Cruz,
Starting point is 01:15:18 so I'll take that one back. But it was pathetic. It was one of the most pathetic things. It's like having a car that's kind of beat up and crappy. I would... If I went on vacation during a storm or whatever, and the media got mad, It was pathetic. It was one of the most pathetic things. It's like having a car that's kind of beat up and crappy. If I went on vacation during a storm or whatever, and the media got mad, I'd get a cigar. What are those things called where you clip the cigar with it?
Starting point is 01:15:33 You know what I mean? Clipper. Clipper. I don't know anything about cigars. But you know what I'd do? I'd get one anyway. I'd get like a velvet or a... Smoking jacket. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Like a robe. A robe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. And then I'd turn the video on while I'm in whatever place. I put my feet up. I clip the cigar. I light it.
Starting point is 01:15:51 And that's it. Well, look, that's how you have to do it because you need to give them at least as much contempt as they give you. Just stop bending the knee yeah well the the problem in american politics i think the kind of crucial thing that hit me one day that i realized that a lot of stuff makes sense is that the democrat donor is to the left of the democrat base yep the republican donor is to the left of the republican base so what that does is that encourages the left to the left of the Republican base. So what that does is that encourages the left to move left and encourages civil war on the right.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Did you see that video that's going viral where the girl shows the pregnancy test and then she's crying like, what am I... You saw that, Ian? Yeah, I just saw it today. She's like, what am I gonna do? Ha, just kidding. She throws it. She's like, I already got the appointment. Well, and then she pours a bottle of wine. I saw Phil Labonte tweeted it and he was like... It was an the appointment. Well, and then she pours a bottle of wine. I saw Phil Labonte tweeted it, and he was like –
Starting point is 01:16:46 It was an abortion thing. What? An abortion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's pro-choice. Oh, she already got the – right, right. She's holding the pregnancy test going like, oh, no, what's going to happen? And then she starts laughing.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Ha-ha. I am what conservatives fear. And then she drinks wine or something. And I'm like, I'm not a conservative. I don't fear you, but I am disgusted by you because these leftists, their ideology, their mentality is built upon one-upping each other on social media. So they don't realize that I grew up in a Democrat household of pro-choice individuals who thought abortion was disgusting, but for political and liberty reasons and medical reasons, we were pro-choice. And it's a difficult thing. And I remember my dad would always be like, you know, it's a really awful thing.
Starting point is 01:17:27 You should probably avoid it at all costs. But I understand that it's got to be between the person and their doctor, and I shouldn't be involved in it. And I remember growing up being like, safe, legal, rare. Now you've got one faction that's- Shout your abortion. Pro-abortion. It's not pro-choice.
Starting point is 01:17:41 It's literally pro-abortion. Michelle Wolf goes on Netflix screaming, you get an abortion, and you get an abortion. It's not pro-choice. It's literally pro-abortion. Michelle Wolf goes on Netflix screaming, you get an abortion and you get an abortion. And Lena Dunham says she wish she had an abortion. And I'm like, these videos, man, these are horrifyingly disturbing videos for a moderate, like former Democrat type personality. I go to my family and they're like, this is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. We're the pro-choice people. Not anymore. There was a poll I saw recently. Most people agree with safe, legal, and rare. Most people agree with a restriction on third trimester. By wide margins. Yes. So who are these fringe lunatics on social media believing that is what people like? So Phil is correct. If there is a move to the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade, it's going to be because moderates back off like, I'm not on your side.
Starting point is 01:18:26 You're crazy. It's like, I'm not going to stand next to that lady. She can go out and protest. I'm not doing it. No, I'll be over there. You guys are nuts. That's the kind of thing that's a really good example of what's happening. There is a fringe element where they go on social media and they constantly one-up each other with the most insane psychobabble nonsense.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And regular Democrat voters aren't there so these people on social media are dictating what nancy pelosi does to a certain degree yeah i mean this is how uh right and this but this is how the the left is radicalized also you know i mean now you've got like a west virginia you know upper middle class couple with you know three kids who are social justice warriors because they go on Instagram. It's the craziest thing when I go to West Virginia and I see the flags. I'm like, what are you doing? What do you live? But these people are leaving though. I read an article from the AP.
Starting point is 01:19:18 The people who are slightly more woke are leaving West Virginia. And they're going to big cities. They're going to Oakland and New York and things like that. So this is the physical polarization. Good. This is why I think collapse is inevitable. Fantastic. Red states will get redder, blue states will get bluer and then eventually you're going to have someone in New York
Starting point is 01:19:36 who's like going to run for office. We're getting to the point where you have a congressperson who's screaming about how 1619 is fact and these conspiracy q lunatics believe this country was founded in 1776 can you believe it and then you're going to have the republican being like because it was and the guy's going to plot a cane start whacking him and you know what that leads to right right so when you when you see that the ideologies are so
Starting point is 01:20:01 completely broken right but we're there already It's just it hasn't happened yet. It's because there's – I mean all the bricks are in place. Well, no, no, no. So there's still a large portion of older people who are like sitting there with their feet up kind of like, I don't know. I don't understand what's happening. But you look at the younger generations that are being raised in this war, millennials, Gen Xers, not so much in it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:20:24 I mean this is what – I was just saying this the other day. Gen X is like you guys – I mean, I'm Gen X. Right. But then millennials, full scale. Full on, yeah. Gen Z, it is substantially more – they're very like internet-based. And so I don't know where Gen Alpha will go, but I think when you raise people in this climate, what's going to happen is a millennial understands history of 1776.
Starting point is 01:20:51 But then here's 1619. If their tribe deem it so, they say, okay, 1619. But they still understand, well, there are history books, but there are this, that, or otherwise. What happens when you have these kids, Gen Alpha, growing up where they only know 1619 from their parents then they're like these people are are conspiracy lunatics who believe in some fringe alternate history about benjamin franklin like well he has nothing to do with anything he wasn't he he's not who founded this country and then what happens when those two people meet each other over a conflict they can't even have a discussion over the ground they stand on when you when the united states gets into a conflict with another
Starting point is 01:21:30 country we we don't necessarily have arguments over like their country versus our country and our histories it's like resources versus resources or the future of the countries hey you need to trade agreement with us because we want to use this this river or this straight or whatever well it's one reason why democracy democracies don't fight each other. Right. Because we feel like we need to have conversations about first principles. And we can't have conflicts about it. What happens when you have 100% red states, 100% blue states, and you go to Congress and someone says,
Starting point is 01:22:02 I hereby think that all guns should be banned. And the other side says, I think constitutional carry should be universal. Those are like, so I was reading about gun control. We talked about it a bit this week. In the 80s, most states were may issue concealed carry permits, meaning you probably wouldn't get one. Today, there's like 20 something plus states that are constitutional carry. Texas just signed it. That means if you're a resident of Texas, you can just walk around with a gun.
Starting point is 01:22:24 You can conceal it. Constitutional right to do so. That's a much more extreme version than where we were 40 years ago, even for conservatives. And the Democrats now are nominating a guy, David Chipman, who's like, I want to ban all guns. That guy's crazy. He's nuts. He's like any semi-auto
Starting point is 01:22:39 with a detachment magazine that takes over .22 caliber. So it's like every single gun, every rifle. Sorry. Okay, so what people are saying is that he's just a plant you know he's he's an expendable faint yes in order to get the the next guy in and the next time comes in we'll be like we're not going to ban ar-15s exactly but we will nfa them right so here's what i'm saying the democrats are at the point where for the past several years, they've been straight up ban all guns. I'm not kidding. They've actually advocated for consistently banning semi-automatic weapons.
Starting point is 01:23:11 That's like every single handgun, all of them. That's it. That's almost every rifle. So you'll have bolt actions, lever actions, revolvers, but it gets rid of like 80, 90 percent of guns. They just ban them. And then you have the conservatives who are like constitutional carry and then you have people like me who end up falling on the 2A side because it's freedom
Starting point is 01:23:30 and I'm like everybody should have a government issued Barrett M82 with a box of 1000 I'm kidding by the way but I've jokingly talked about semi-jokingly the Department of Gun Services guaranteeing the right to own a firearm because it's in the Constitution if you want universal healthcare well we have a right to bear arms so we get that first i digress the point is
Starting point is 01:23:47 the democrats are to are to the as extreme as possible the conservatives are getting i wouldn't say extreme but in a sense i don't want to say extreme because being like do your thing as the constitution dictates i wouldn't call that extreme i would call that foundational but it is very i think conservatives are going from yelling stop to actually putting their foot down and say okay we're going to stop that's why the desantis bill is important yeah because instead of just you know bitching and moaning about big tech censorship it's something where are the rest of the red states? This is I mean, this is this is a problem. This is a huge problem. And and I hope it's an indicator. I hope it lets people know about the dire nature of the situation that it's only Florida. Everybody do this. Tell your friends, your state. If you're in a red state, you call your politicians
Starting point is 01:24:43 and you say, please just do everything DeSantis is doing. Just there you go. We're done. I will say the DeSantis bill is good on social media censorship, but I'm told the Abbott one is better. So follow the Texas social media. Because of Ken Paxton, who's great. Yeah. So I guess in Texas, it actually treats, this is what I was told by Alan Bakari, that it treats the social networks like common carriers right so it's like a phone company now florida doesn't which means it'll be very difficult to enforce a lot of what they do hence they're being sued so um but i'm talking like constitutional carry and uh social media rights and stuff like that just desantis
Starting point is 01:25:18 you know do that stuff yeah and and i mean the other you gotta call you gotta call and tell them right the other aspect of this too is uh is to make sure in florida at least you've got cities and municipalities that are really excited now i know my you know the mayor of miami is just excited as can be about bringing more people into miami well he's got to do this in a responsible way so it's not to bring in you know he wants to make miami the new hub of big tech okay that's So it's not to bring in, you know, he wants to make Miami the new hub of big tech. Okay, that's great. You're going to bring
Starting point is 01:25:48 a thousand social justice warriors in from, you know, from Silicon Valley. You know, you're not going to win again if that's what you do. I got it better. I'm going to start hiring.
Starting point is 01:25:56 I'm hiring people and making them all to move to West Virginia. So it's like we're hiring. We're hiring and we need to hire like a ton of people, but you got to live in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:26:06 And hey, West Virginia is paying people like 12 grand to move there. Yep. So it's a great opportunity. Yeah. And there's a bunch of tax incentives. So it's like, here you go. You know, but I get a lot of people don't want to necessarily move to West Virginia. They want to go to Texas.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Sure. And I'm like, well, you know, look, Texas is cool. And I get it because West Virginia is not moving fast enough. I mean, I have friends who work in D.C. who are considering West Virginia as a place where you can commute. You can absolutely commute. And maybe you'll go into the office two days a week, three days a week. It's absolutely doable. Well, that's one of the problems is that parts of West Virginia are turning blue.
Starting point is 01:26:43 They're almost blue because D.C. people are moving. It's hilarious. So the eastern part of West Virginia is now like 47 percent Democrat in one particular county because it's D.C. workers who moved here for freedom. It's really funny because like, you know, like neighborhoods apps and stuff. You can really tell who the city people are when they're complaining about, like, animals and bears and, like, gunshots going off. And you're like, you should not be living here. But there was a story that AP report I'd mentioned that they're actually losing more people. The people who are, like, lefty, pro-union, anti-gun are like, I just can't stand this.
Starting point is 01:27:22 It's so weird and creepy and wrong. And they're leaving. And I'm like, opportunity, guys. Sure. You know, if you want to live in a big city, smells like sour milk, and you can't do anything, you go ahead and do it with my blessing. You want to go on the mountains? But that also speaks to an awareness on their side. I mean, you know, we've been talking about this conflict.
Starting point is 01:27:42 And we think about it a lot and talk about it a lot. Okay. But the other guys, even if they're not talking about it, it enters their consciousness. I think everybody should move to West Virginia. Everybody in the world? No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about people who are paying attention. All of India moves to West Virginia. I mean I think literally you could fit all of the people in the world into Houston or something.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Really? If they were stacked shoulder to shoulder. Oh, okay. Some ridiculous thing like that. Well, no, no. It's bigger than that, but very little space. No, no. I'm saying the people who are fleeing Minneapolis, for instance, the people who are fleeing California,
Starting point is 01:28:18 don't vote for Democrats if you're going to support the local politics, but people should start setting up industry in other places. I've got very little. For years, I'm telling going to support the local politics, people should start setting up industry in other places. I've got very little. For years, I'm telling people to move to red states, Florida, Texas, wherever. And you hear the same things. Oh, I can't. I've got this reason. I've got that reason.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Okay. At some point, it's probably going to get bad enough for you to do it. This is the way I explained it. There's a house. And there's a small fire in the garage. And they're like, it like there's there's a house and there's a small fire in the garage and they're like yeah i know there's a fire there but i think i'll be fine and you're like at a certain point the fire is going to spread to the kitchen and then you're going to be sitting there and if it spreads the door you're trapped anybody that has a fire in
Starting point is 01:28:58 their house and doesn't take immediate emergency evasive action is a moron and look what's happening with people who live in San Francisco. Yep. If you're a conservative and you live in San Francisco, I'm sorry. I got that. I used to. I lived there for five years. And you left.
Starting point is 01:29:12 And I left. Of course I left. Because there's human waste all over the ground. When I lived there, it was clean. It was clean. What years were you there? I was there, I guess, early 2000s. Yeah, early 2000s. Yeah, early 2000s.
Starting point is 01:29:27 And in the late 90s a little bit, too. But I didn't want to be surrounded by crazy people. What part of the city were you in? I was in the Mission. Oh, yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah, right there. I was on Mission. I was on Mission, and then I was in Knob Hill before.
Starting point is 01:29:43 I love that area. I was over there, too. Yeah. Knob Hill before. I love that area. I was over there too. Yeah. And it was, look, I mean, it was great. It was great, but the city collapsed the same way that New York collapsed, which is that the middle class disappeared. And the middle class overlaps with the creative class too. So when the interesting people leave and they can no longer afford to live there, I mean, first the families go. And then the people who have no families but don't make a lot of money and do, you know, play music and, you know, cultural life things.
Starting point is 01:30:16 When they can no longer afford to live in the city, you've got very poor and very rich. And it's boring. And the city falls apart. And, you know, people are saying, oh, New York is going to come back. Nah, I don't think so. It's not coming back. Nope. It may be clean and safe in the future.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Well, the rats, you know. But it's not going to be fun. The rats are desperate. And so there's been rat packs running around the city. So rats used to just eat the refuse. It was easy. It was always waste. Once the people disappeared, the rats had to go out and start fighting.
Starting point is 01:30:47 There's a video of a rat fighting a pigeon, and they're both trying to eat each other. Oh, my God. Well, look. How many rats are in New York, do you think? Millions? Tens of millions. Tens of millions? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Hundreds of millions. And humans were constantly throwing garbage on the ground for rats to eat, enough for the rats and the pigeons to sustain a certain level of population. Humans all disappeared. Now, all of a sudden, the no food pigeons no food they start fighting each other there's like a video of someone getting attacked by a squirrel too like a squirrel was desperate was like biting people yeah and you get bit by that you gotta go get your rabies shots numerous shots who you want to live there by all means you do with my blessing i'm gonna go out in the middle of the woods. I went out today and I grabbed like 30 or 40 cicadas in like 10 minutes.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Just chuck them into the chicken. Make a nice stew. No, I'm not going to eat bugs off the ground. Get parasites. Get in the chickens. Chickens, ate them up, gobbled them up. Hey, it's like I don't got to buy chicken food this month. We got all the cicadas.
Starting point is 01:31:42 It's crazy. It's like I walk along the edge of the property, collect in like 10 minutes like 30, 40 cicadas. An hour later. What do chickens usually eat? An hour later, I go back out, same thing. There's more. Cicadas are all back.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Chickens eat just chicken feed. So there's something called egg-laying layer. It's a protein meal. They eat bugs and they eat grass. Okay, so an insect can replace... For a chicken, a cicada is like a treat. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. They go nuts.
Starting point is 01:32:12 They love mealworms, but they're omnivores. They don't eat anything. They eat grass. They literally eat grass. It's funny when you can feed them grass through the wall of the coop and they're just freaking out trying to get it.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yeah, they love it. It's like spaghetti. They slurp it up. It's become a thing. I never thought. I mean, whatever. I played music, lived in New York, whatever. I never knew that I would have multiple friends who owned chickens.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Yeah. That was not a thing that I expected in my life. Dude, city life is whack. I thought it was the only way to go for the first half of my life. Yeah, but communications changed it. Now people can work remote. Now we got satellite internet. Now, so when I was wanting to set up a show, I'm like, we need good internet.
Starting point is 01:32:52 So we want to be in a city. It was very difficult to get internet here. It took us like six, seven months, I think. Yeah, yeah. So we're in the middle of nowhere. We had really bad internet. And then in order to get like a business-level internet, we had to – And COVID probably –
Starting point is 01:33:10 It's really expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's probably like 10 or 20 times the cost of normal internet or maybe even 30 times the cost of normal internet. I don't know. I think cities get a bad rap. You know, cities get a bad rap these days, especially from folks who are on the right or folks who have kind of recently left cities, because
Starting point is 01:33:30 they used to be really cool. They used to be a lot different. And it was prior to the social media age, it was when, you know, there's something special that happens with a bunch of people, you know, approximately in the same place. Music.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Yeah. Creativity. Yeah, yeah. But it's homogenous. It made everything boring and the same. So it used to not be. Yeah, I know. You know, I often ask people,
Starting point is 01:34:02 when was the last... So we have Christmas music every year. When was the last Christmas song written? 1998. 94. Mariah Carey. All I Want for Christmas is You. But prior to that, it was, what, like 1968?
Starting point is 01:34:16 And then 50s. And we still listen to the same songs. Sure. It's culture homogenized and then stagnated. So maybe this is good. Maybe this city evacuation or whatever is going to result in... Yeah, we need new cities. We need tunnels for the traffic so that we can walk around outside
Starting point is 01:34:33 without looking around, getting hit by cars, brake dust. Elon built something like that. We need vertical farms so that we can grow our food within the cities, like on street corners, like entire city blocks dedicated to giant indoor farms. There's no reason why a bunch of cool people can't move to a small town and create what functionally was everything pretty decent about a city. People got to move out to West Virginia. That'd be so cool.
Starting point is 01:35:00 And then make, we'll call it cool world. I know solar roads aren't super effective because they get dirty. They don't work at all. But man, there must be so cool. And then make, we'll call it cool world. I know solar roads aren't super effective because they get dirty. They don't work at all. But, man, there must be a way. There will be a way. No, I think I remember the solar roads thing, and I think it's just like a child's idea. It's a dream? Like a solar parking lot?
Starting point is 01:35:18 They're like, if all the roads are solar panels, then we'll have all this power. And it's like, I get it. There's roads, and they absorb sunlight. But, like, what like you're driving big rigs on these things they're gonna break and they're gonna get covered in dirt and snow and they're not gonna work it's gonna refract light it's self-clean it doesn't but they're gonna they're gonna crack under the pressure depends on what you make them out not like just build solar panels why why like why not just put the solar panel on the side of the road? Why put the car on top of it? Because it's like pollution.
Starting point is 01:35:47 No. The road itself is already there. But line the highway with solar panels. Don't make the cars drive on top of it. Honestly, you're right. I'd rather have no idea what you guys are doing. There was a viral video about solar roads where they were like, if we replace all of the roads with solar panels and drive on those instead, we'll power the country. And it's like the cars are going to break them they're it's they're made out of like double
Starting point is 01:36:09 reinforced glass so they don't really they break they can handle that's literally pressure no they can't what literally happened was the cars broke them theoretically they they could in the future they're just they're in prototype stage right now this was this was 10 years but i think the road should be underground anyway so the point is why not just put the solar panels over the road? Because it's pollution. What do you mean it's pollution? It's like site pollution. It pollutes the environment.
Starting point is 01:36:33 You can't see past it. Get out of here, dude. It blocks the view. Just do nuclear and you can have a nice, beautiful sky. You don't have to... Here's what you do. You cover... All roads are covered tunnels with
Starting point is 01:36:45 solar panels on top. I also want to put the power lines... With screens inside. Yeah. So that when you're driving in the tunnel, you can watch TV, you can see what... You can do Twitter, you can do whatever you want. We can put the power lines... We got to read these super chats. Oh, nice.
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Starting point is 01:37:24 Just to Know Tool says, Tim, please invite Thunderfoot onto TimCast to talk about UFOs. That sounds fun. Make 1984 Fiction again said, could there be a sign of optimism? Army Ad is currently ratioed 5.5
Starting point is 01:37:40 thumbs up, 133,000 thumbs down. Yikes. Not surprising. James says Harambee was an inside job. That's a fact. It was a guy who worked for the zoo who shot him.
Starting point is 01:37:53 You think the kid was a plant? It was a doll. It was a crisis actor. Yeah. Yeah, remember when the meme about Hillary Clinton? Harambee tweeted, I have information that
Starting point is 01:38:04 we're looking for Hillary Clinton. Seeking to choice is pouring one out for the homie Rip Harambe. I am a gorilla. Much love. I can't believe we messed this up. We should have made a Harambe shirt. I am Harambe. And it should have had the year.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I think we still can. Yeah. I am Harambe. Harambe is eternal. Harambe is eternal. Harambe is eternal. Harambe is eternal. He can come back next week, do the same show again. We have the I am a gorilla shirt meme.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Okay. So it was a perfect opportunity for... I wonder if... I got to say, there's something weird going on with gorillas. You know what I mean? There's the apes stronger together thing. Apes together strong. Apes together strong.
Starting point is 01:38:42 There's Harambe. There's the Ishmael book. Alex Jones. I'm a gorilla. Yeah, we got these gorillas here. What's this? It's all these gorillas. Oh, you have Ishmael right there.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Why? I knew you had Ishmael. This is my life, Tim. Ooh, look at that. Ishmael the book. Shout out to the gorilla, Ishmael. He's the psychic gorilla. Have you ever read this book before?
Starting point is 01:39:01 No, never. This is where that all came from, the Alex Jones meme. Oh, okay. I'm a gorilla. It's a pretty cool book before? No, never. This is where that all came from, the Alex Jones meme. Oh, okay. I'm a gorilla. It's a pretty cool book, actually. I'll bet. All right. Hey, Yo Geo Gang says,
Starting point is 01:39:11 Huge Van Tim, I'm part of the Timcast members only, and I have one question. Is there any way I could get an autograph? So we actually, as part of the new site, are building an auction system for a variety of reasons. So the live events we wanted to start doing in February, and then there's some like legal paperwork stuff that's put us on hiatus. We want to do it soon.
Starting point is 01:39:32 What we're going to do is we're going to do 10 first come first serve for everybody who's giving $25. Everyone at the membership level of $25 or more. We'll see a post where it's like, boom, tickets are now available because we're going to do events every Friday night. So it'll be from like 10 after the show ends to like midnight. Physical events.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Physical events here. Yep. With like DJs and music. And it'll be like 20 to 30 people per week who are allowed to come and hang out. It's like a happening. Oh, yeah. In the old days, like a happening. A legit party.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Or a hootenanny. A hootenanny. That's right. And so half the tickets will be first come first serve that means there's literally going to be people like sitting there
Starting point is 01:40:09 like refreshing constantly like I want to get a ticket you know but then we're going to have auction tickets so we're trying to balance meritocracy with access and it's not easy
Starting point is 01:40:17 because there's only a finite amount but in that we're going to be able to auction off stuff autographed shirts posters etc and then people when they come to the live events will get a taste Ian's amazing bread we're going to be able to auction off stuff. Autographed shirts, posters, etc.
Starting point is 01:40:28 And then people, when they come to the live events, will get a taste of Ian's amazing bread. Oh, it's going to be good. We're actually going to make some cricket bread, I think. That's on the horizon. We have a bag of cricket flour. So there's no gluten in it, which means we're going to need to probably mix it with regular flour. And then we're going to make a...
Starting point is 01:40:43 Tomorrow we'll film it. We'll make cricket bread. I'm excited. Cricket bread. I'm excited. Cricket bread. I'm sure it's delicious. I got no problem eating bugs. All right, let's see. Where are we at?
Starting point is 01:40:51 What do we got here? PNW Paranormalish says, Super serious question. Timcast crew, does anyone play World of Warcraft Classic? If so, what do you think the best race class combo is? And why is it Trollmage? You're
Starting point is 01:41:05 incorrect, good sir. Night Elf Druid. Night Elf Druid? I mean, Druids are legit. I'm always down for Rogue. Rogue does so much damage. You know why I like Human Rogue is because in Classic you have the perception. So it's easier to see other Rogues.
Starting point is 01:41:22 And I like Alteric Valley. I always like Shadow Meld because you can get up and go to the bathroom and just stealth for a little while. Yeah, Shadowmeld's great. To answer your question, yes. Tim and I were actually playing a couple years ago. You want to know what's really crazy? So I started playing World of Warcraft, I think, in 2005. Legit OG.
Starting point is 01:41:40 And so I remember in the early days. This is, what, 15 years ago. Alteric Valley. When you're playing as either faction, really. I would play as Alliance and everyone would be like, no, the Horde's better. Whatever, man. So the Alliance towers in
Starting point is 01:41:57 Alteric Valley, there's as a rogue, I would just hide behind the wall and then I would sneak up. For those that aren't familiar, it's basically capture the flag. The enemy team comes and then they click the flag and then there's a timer. It's like 10 seconds. If they are untouched for 10 seconds, the flag switches teams.
Starting point is 01:42:14 If they can hold that for a certain amount of time, they destroy the tower. The rogues are effectively invisible. It's called stealth. You can't see them, right? So 15 years ago, I'm playing and that was my strategy. I would hide and I'm very smart and I just wait. And they would be sitting there thinking they've won and at the very
Starting point is 01:42:30 last second, I would switch it back. Erasing all their progress, right? World of Warcraft Classic comes out and I'm like, I wonder if the same strategy still works on these people 15 years later. And it does. People never change.
Starting point is 01:42:45 It's amazing. I'm like, you'd think you'd learn if they're playing. But you know what it is? A lot of these people probably came back to the game from the same old... Because I had played Worlds of Draenor. I played Legion. And I played a little bit of Shadowlands. And so I'm like, I'm used to the game.
Starting point is 01:43:01 So going back to Classic, I'm familiar with the game. And these people keep falling for the same tricks, man. It's the same thing about people setting their cups on the ground. I think they've been doing it for tens of thousands of years. They just keep kicking over those cups. You just got to put your cup up on a table. Don't set it on the ground. Humans do human stuff, man.
Starting point is 01:43:17 They do. It's human behavior. It's a real thing. Yeah. Anyway, let's read Super Chats. Name Changer says, Hi, I'm Common Sense, human behavior it's real thing yeah anyway uh let's read super chats name changer says hi i'm common sense a level four bio lab that studies corona bat viruses one mile away from the epicenter of the pandemic and democrats accept the chinese said it's not relevant i knew this a year ago why now are you accepting it morons not tim and friends so like i said i got a question
Starting point is 01:43:42 i'll make the one point real quick if you have a bio bio lab and an open wet market and they're like where did the virus come from i'll be like this one's got no security the simple solution is the no security one you add in all the new information and the reports they never released changes the narrative sure let me ask a few weeks ago when we saw the uh the kind of first negative stories about Bill Gates coming out. Which stories? In regards to the divorce. And then you were like, OK, he's you know, he's engaged in this bad behavior.
Starting point is 01:44:14 He's done this and that. All of a sudden, you know, Bill Gates for the first time was kicked down a peg. I'm thinking, like, was this part of look look they knew that they were going to roll this out this didn't roll out immediately just like that this particular story this particular story is like what three days old I mean
Starting point is 01:44:35 little brick by brick by brick by brick getting to Fauci yeah and then Fauci comes out and says well you know so we're talking almost a week now where this story has been softened to where you can talk about it and this is what's going on. I mean, this, you know, it's an info op. You know, when you stagger the stories like this, knowing that you're going to get this result. So I'm wondering what the next shoe to drop will be number one number two is I'm wondering does the let's say demystification of
Starting point is 01:45:06 of Bill Gates have anything to do you know prior to this thing having anything to do with it it all leads to Xi Jinping transforming into some kind of mutant demon zombie because
Starting point is 01:45:21 yeah like Voltron like other one guy like join his right arm the other guy will come in his left arm zombie voltron zombie voltron covid 21 what's happening yeah okay it's too big i think it's the same thing with where hillary railroaded bernie sanders in 2016 it was so obvious but the the media was like, people were just like, drool coming down. And it was the same way with this bio lab thing. I think it was obvious
Starting point is 01:45:52 to every sentient person. It just seemed like common sense. Right. It's just a matter of time. I wonder why now it's falling apart. Maybe it's because this thing is basically over. I saw a friend of mine tweeting a photo from a lower Manhattan, you know, clothing store. No mask.
Starting point is 01:46:14 Like, OK, you know what? This thing is over. Yep. You know, if in lower Manhattan you're walking around with that shopping without a mask, this thing is over. So maybe now we're just sort of in the mop up. Yeah. All right. We got Green Door says,
Starting point is 01:46:26 please discuss U.S. farmers being offered money to destroy their crops or be refused farming subsidies if they refuse. So this is called fallowing a field, and it's been around forever. It's an old story, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So there's rumors going around
Starting point is 01:46:38 where people are like, the government's telling us we have to shut down our farms. Otherwise, we don't get our subsidies, so then we're broke. So people think there's going to be a food shortage. Why are they doing it exactly? They're being paid to not grow crops?
Starting point is 01:46:52 Yeah. I interviewed a bunch of farmers about this. I can't remember all the details, though. It was years ago. So they'll rotate where the government will say, we'll pay you whatever you would have made to not grow crops. Is that just to limit the supply to keep the value of the crops up or something? I think basically that's the main idea.
Starting point is 01:47:10 I don't know the details either. Rampton says Michael Knoll's book on pre-order or whatever. Oh, yeah. Michael Knoll's book Speechless is for pre-order. No, no, no. But you see it. They're just getting lower and lower effort. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:47:24 I demand high quality. All right. Jay Neighbor says, Hello, Timcast has now been heard throughout the continental United States. Unfortunately, it is all by one fat and now apparently old truck driver from Dubuque. Old. Truth hurts, Tim. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Thought you would like to know. We actually had someone. I mentioned that. Like, the people who watch, listen, it's like a regular guy, he's like a truck driver, a fat truck driver driving through Dubuque or something, or from Dubuque, and then some guy was like, hey, that's me. Wow. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:47:54 I love our reach. The Throne says, you don't need to regulate big tech, just enforce the existing rules. The private ownership argument doesn't hold up when you look at the decision of Alabama v. Marsh from the U.S. Supreme Court. All right. Well, there you go. The one free man says COVID rockets falling from the sky. The Uyghurs. China has proven to be incompetent and irresponsible.
Starting point is 01:48:17 The lies we tell incur a debt to the truth. The debt will always come due. COVID was China's Chernobyl. Yikes. Yeah, the rocket falling from the sky. Remember that? They're like, it might land on New York. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah, I don't want to live in there. I mean. Someone you may know says, Tim, developers create public spaces because many municipalities have set a maximum floor space a building can have. However, you can exceed that maximum by how much public space you create. Really? Yes, tax incentives also there you go good to know that's right good to know so that i mean that concept though or our understanding of of the rules around that comes from the company town you know in in the wild west
Starting point is 01:49:00 and then you know and elsewhere in the country when you've got a town. The corporation would make. The corporation basically owns a town. Do you have any rights there? Is the company, you know, can the company call all the shots in a place? Those still exist, like at the frack fields in I think North Dakota.
Starting point is 01:49:16 Sure. They like build a city for the employees. It's crazy. Wow. Yeah. And in Alaska too, I had a friend who worked in Alaska and there's like a town that exists
Starting point is 01:49:24 just for one company. Right. And like there's too, I had a friend who worked in Alaska, and there's, like, a town that exists just for one company. Right. And, like, there's one big communist-looking, like, blockhouse. Yeah, it's creepy. Because they're not going to build a bunch of houses. They need to house their employees. And there's, like, one store. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:35 It's kind of cool. Antarctica sounds pretty fun. There's, like, ten people there or something in the winter. Sounds good. Yeah. Jimmy Russell says, Tim, I think the libertarian position on private company speech relies on enforcing 230 the moment someone is censored the company should lose its 230 protection
Starting point is 01:49:50 becoming legally liable for all speech on the service but that's regulation libertarians are like nah also you got to define censorship because if i look at your post and allow it i'm still censoring you i'm acting as the censor saying yes or no. You don't have to shut it down in order for it to be censorship. You can also allow it. Doug Phelps says, Tim, you are generalizing 800,000 cops. There are bad cops and bad leadership. Stop painting cops as bad or all we will have are bad cops. Right.
Starting point is 01:50:18 And as I've pointed out, I defended the police all throughout the last year until the people voted in the system and the good cops quit. Or I should say many of the good cops quit. And then the ones who remained are willing to lick the feet of Bill de Blasio and Whitmer and other corrupt politicians. So I'm not going to call them good cops. They have a choice to leave. You know what needs to happen? Ron DeSantis and, you know, maybe Greg Abbott, some other guys should get together and say, okay, we will go and we will buy out your contracts if you're a cop, if you're a good cop in a blue state or a blue city. Kristi Noem's doing this.
Starting point is 01:50:53 And bring them in. Really? South Dakota is recruiting. I think they're doing this on purpose. I think that's them, yeah. Recruiting the cops who are quitting to come to South Dakota where they're not. Oh, what a good idea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:02 It's a great idea. I thought you were going to say like Rhonda Sanders and Abbott should combine their power rings together and then, you know, Wonder Governor's powers activate. It would be the sequel, right? It would be. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it would be.
Starting point is 01:51:11 So Xi Jinping becomes Communist Voltron and then Abbott and Ken Paxton, I don't know, Abbott and Sanders combine their rings together. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:51:21 And then activate their powers. Wonder Governor's powers activate. We could make a, we could make a contiguous, you contiguous landmass between the two. I see it. And we get New Orleans. One giant. There you go.
Starting point is 01:51:35 Jacob Dobbinspeck says, wait, if we're in the prequels, does that mean that Joe Biden is Jar Jar? Only if Jar Jar is secretly a Sith Lord. Oh, I've heard the conspiracy theory. The conspiracy theory. Jar Jar was a Sith. Huh. oh I've heard the conspiracy theory Jar Jar was a Sith huh yeah he was the real villain of the movie I crack a Star Wars joke and then he just everything just goes right over my head
Starting point is 01:51:52 everybody knows that Star Wars is just anti-empire propaganda true that's true like they call like these leftists call the US the empire and the imperialists like the empire never I bet the empire didn't even really call itself the Empire. Oh, good point.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Yeah. It was probably called like... United States of America. Do we even know the name of it? It's the Empire. No, no, no. But they called it themselves. The Empire.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Oh, man. Like, I'm just kidding. Like, Vader is like literally my new empire. It was the Republic and then it became the Empire. It's basically Rome. It's supposed to be Rome in the movie, I think. I'd like to see a series that is not propaganda against
Starting point is 01:52:31 the elites. There's some really interesting fan writings about the Jedi being ineffective, authoritarian, and religious zealots. Imposing their will with force, like literally the force against people who disagree
Starting point is 01:52:48 with them, intervening in political affairs. A lot of people have written this. You think about the first movie with the Trade Federation and Naboo. Why were two knights with laser swords sent in for a negotiation between a trade dispute?
Starting point is 01:53:05 So that's like, that's, that's, and so that's actually a part of the movie. I recently watched the first one again. And when the trade Federation is like, the Jedi were sent here and like, what,
Starting point is 01:53:13 why? Yeah. What? Seriously. Imagine if someone sent like two high ranking, like, you know, like seal team six was sent in to negotiate a trade dispute with some
Starting point is 01:53:21 countries. They'd be like, Oh, what do you, what is really weird. Yeah, the Jedi were nuts, man. They're religious zealots. We should make that short film.
Starting point is 01:53:32 Oh, yeah. So it'd be like... Yeah, Vader is a disabled veteran war hero. So it'd be like if the U.S. government was negotiating a trade contract with Google and then like MI6 showed up, a couple of like MI6 agents or something. No, no, no, no. It would be like if there was a port blockade in Greece because a Chinese vessel was trying to negotiate a trade deal, so the U.S. sends in SEAL Team 6 to negotiate peace.
Starting point is 01:53:59 They'd be like, nah. That's what it was. That's what happened. And that actually triggered the conflict. They're like, you know, then Sidious is like, kill them. They should never have been involved. You know, so they should have been involved, man. Chris Pavoto says, since Tim keeps saying he'll never run for an official office position,
Starting point is 01:54:17 why not use this platform and reach to reform Section 230? There are several guests and supports to give input. Then submit the papers to Congress. I mean, we do talk about it a lot. We do invite people on to talk Section 230. There are several guests and supports to give input. Then submit the papers to Congress. I mean, we do talk about it a lot. We do invite people on to talk about it. Didn't we just say Congress and the federal government is a dead end? Local politics.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Yep. Yeah, you got to go local. One by one, the states will start adopting the law. Then eventually it'll be a huge conflict. It'll go to the Supreme Court and then you'll get your answer. Not that I trust the Supreme Court, to be honest. Did you see that video of Clarence Thomas laughing?
Starting point is 01:54:50 Oh, the best laugh. Yeah. What a laugh. Yeah, classic. I like the meme where it's like, you know the meme where the woman says, men only want one thing, it's disgusting? Yeah, yeah. And then someone put the image of, it's the Supreme Court, but everyone is Clarence Thomas.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yes. Correct. Yeah. Ben D says, I agree is Clarence Thomas. Yes. Correct. Yeah. Ben D. says, I agree with David. We are in the prequel. We just passed when Natalie Portman says, this is how liberty dies, to thunderous applause. People are cheering for the system burning.
Starting point is 01:55:15 Yep. Yes. That's sad. Well, it was a good run, I guess. No, I think it was like 1900s when things got real bad. You know, the good thing is states, United States, the states rights and the power of the state, because no federal prohibition has ever really worked that I can tell. They tried to prohibit alcohol. They tried to prohibit weed.
Starting point is 01:55:35 If they try to prohibit guns, the states are just going to say F you and do what they want anyway. I like that. Well, no, I mean, because traditionally the states, I mean, would that if they did? I mean, traditionally the states end up buckling because they're all taking money from the federal government in some way. I mean, the states don't want to be responsible for just a lot of the stuff that the federal government pays for. And this is how the federal government, so the left gets everything they want in the States. Federal funny money.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Yeah. What's happening now is before the pandemic, the blue States were in serious trouble. Now they're all getting bailed out because of COVID and now they have a surplus. All right. Aaron Mollenauer says, enjoy your show and your guests rock.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Aaron Mollenauer for president 2024, a common man for uncommon times together we will win back america for ian and america i will order an audit of the fed i will mandate constitutional studies in all public schools i like that you have a platform yes audit the fed jerome mororrow says, Ian's been too calm tonight. What do you think about getting rid of the Federal Reserve and then replacing gold with graphene as the global reserve medium? Interesting concept. Wow. Yeah. Graphene's scarce.
Starting point is 01:56:54 And it could be that we bypass the money system completely and just have a resource-based economy that's based on electricity and resource. Graphene. What's a resource-based economy that's based on electricity and resource. What does that mean? What's a resource-based economy? Where you use, you know, I mean, you would need a total retrofit of the economy. You'd need fusion power to electronically. What is a resource-based economy? Like you use electricity as your resource, your main resource, to atomically print water and food.
Starting point is 01:57:22 But what do you mean? I don't understand. Locally. But we can't do that. Can? I agree. So what's our economy based off of then? Discern economy? Fiat?
Starting point is 01:57:32 Wait, so I don't understand what you're saying. Fiat means faith. It's faith-based economy. You print as much money as you want and pass it around. So you're saying people would generate electricity and then trade batteries? No, you would trade electricity. Yeah, you could charge each other's batteries and stuff like that. So how would you quantify the electricity?
Starting point is 01:57:49 I guess you could measure it. So then you'd trade what, like amp hours? Yeah, probably. So you'd call like what, an amp? So you'd have a bank account with like 10 amps in it? Yeah, you'd have a battery. You'd have a battery. There wouldn't be no more need for banks.
Starting point is 01:58:02 You'd just have batteries that are charged or discharged. So you could make your own energy i think so you could like ride a bike and then generate power that that leaves individual power because you don't want the state to like be charging everyone's batteries for them you want the individual that's a very private thing no that's kind of cool though you don't come behind imagine if it was like based on energy you could literally ride a bike for an hour charge a battery and go to the store and click it in and then transfer your energy to the grid and then get an apple for it i love that guy he rides his bike eight hours a day and powers my house everyone loves that guy because he does all the work nobody would nobody would say that but you could you'd walk up and
Starting point is 01:58:37 you go to your friend's house and be like you got some sugar i can borrow here and you click you click your battery in and send them some of your power or whatever or probably be an app and it would transfer from your storage in your house you could go to someone's house click your battery in and send them some of your power or whatever. Or it would probably be an app and it would transfer from your storage in your house. You could go to someone's house, use your battery to power their atomic printer to get food at their house. Imagine if you could get like a solar panel on your house, which generates so much
Starting point is 01:58:55 power, it put money back in the grid and they gave you money instead. That's literally how it works. I don't like money. Money is just a number for a trade medium. I don't like relying on money, I guess I don't like relying on money I guess I should say can you imagine the depravity the societal depravity that would accompany
Starting point is 01:59:12 all of these different things you know by the time society got to you know by the time civilization got to the point where we're doing this and we're you know trading energy you know on thumb drives as you know for food you know, trading energy, you know, on thumb drives as, you know, for food. You know, I mean, just imagine the depravity.
Starting point is 01:59:29 Imagine the state of humanity. I constantly think about how we can transition without a fallout, without like going, all of the high tech stuff is not going to be, you know, possible. It's just not going to be possible. You know, I mean, I think I think the plan needs to be, hey, let's force Harvard to hire, you know, only, you know, only people of color. Force them to do it. Force them to do it. I like that. You know, only people of color. Force them to do it? Force them to do it. I like that. You know, force them to do it.
Starting point is 02:00:07 It's racial justice. The Fed is getting woke, and I'm here for it. Yeah. Get woke, go broke. Yes. All right, here we go. Enjoy Coca-Cola Light says, Star Wars was written by the victors of wars.
Starting point is 02:00:18 Of course, Vader is depicted as some evil madman. Consider the story told by the Empire, coming out as the victors. That's right. That's absolutely right. His armor looked way cooler than that all-black thing. We should write it. We should make it. Like the real events? Yeah, the real
Starting point is 02:00:34 history of Star Wars. Vader's like trying to convince people And Vader won't be like this big looming demonic figure. Yeah, he's like 5'9". Yeah, he's like 5'9". And he's got some cyber components. Like six kids. he's like 5'9". And he's got some cyber components. Like six kids.
Starting point is 02:00:46 He's a really good father. And he's not going... No, no, no. He has his two kids. He has Luke. And they're kidnapped by religious extremists. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Yeah, he's a war hero. His aunt and uncle were like religious extremists. Yep. They weren't really his aunt and uncle. No, no. He escaped
Starting point is 02:01:00 the religious extremism and went and, you know, and got to learn and then realized they were corrupt religious extremists. And he has like – he struggles to breathe. He's got like a breathing machine. People like him and he's really nice. Your mother did this to me.
Starting point is 02:01:15 Yeah. Yeah. See, it's all propaganda. We should make it. We'll make like a 10-minute short film. It could be a good 10-minute short film. It wouldn't be called The Empire. It would be called the empire it
Starting point is 02:01:25 would be called like the galactic federation and it would be like people from a desert planet taking a cargo ship and blowing up a military base and you'd see like the families crying and you'd have the emperor who was disfigured from an assassination attempt when the jedi tried to kill him and he's like we lost 1,372,000 lives that day when religious extremists blew up a military base. You know, like building hospitals and things. Yep. That's right.
Starting point is 02:01:54 Yeah, we should totally do it. All right, let's see. We'll do a couple more. Clifton Stock says, West Virginia pays and work for Tim Pool. What positions are available? We are doing commissions for mini- mini docs, which is contract work. We're looking for journalists, and we've gotten a lot of submissions. And, you know, with all due respect, the ones we've been through, it's just like we need actual journalists with experience.
Starting point is 02:02:19 And it's not particularly easy. So, you know, we're trying to quality control and get the best of the best. So it's very difficult. We need a AV tech full time for setting up new shows. it's not particularly easy. We're trying to quality control and get the best of the best, so it's very difficult. We need a AV tech full-time for setting up new shows. We're going to be setting up a gaming lab and the paranormal show and stuff like that. We need
Starting point is 02:02:34 camera operators full-time. And yeah. Along with those skill requirements, if you are interested in sending a resume or something, make sure you send actual samples of work. I don't really care all that much about resumes. And if you skate, scoot, bike, blade, whatever, pogo stick, those are all big advantages.
Starting point is 02:02:55 And also, if someone has a drone pilot's license, camera operator with a drone pilot license, absolutely, we are looking for that, too. And they're all on location jobs in the maryland west virginia area there you go pioneer smokehouses says ian money is just a means of bridging the gaps between wants and needs it's true until you can print as much of it as you want and then it becomes a weapon as well blip squeaks as i'm disappointed you didn't seize the opportunity to leave Ian's picture for the whole night. It was hysterical when you switched it. Can we show that one more time?
Starting point is 02:03:30 Is that still up? Let me see. Oh, hold on. Sorry. Let me move over to that. Yep. It's still there. Thank you, Lydia.
Starting point is 02:03:34 What? That's so weird. I don't know this technology. He looks very noble. Hi, everyone. That's a crazy image. I haven't seen it yet. It's so weird.
Starting point is 02:03:41 I'll show it to you after. Okay, thanks. It's hilarious. How does that happen? It's so funny. All right, everybody. It's Friday night. It's so weird. I'll show it to you after. Okay, thanks. It's hilarious. How does that happen? It's so funny. All right, everybody. It's Friday night. It's party time.
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Starting point is 02:05:10 Make sure you check out youtube.com slash cast castle because we're going to have a vlog up tomorrow where we're setting up the new 3D printers. Today, Andreas was working on, was it PETG?
Starting point is 02:05:21 Is that what it's called? Polyethylene Tetra Glycol? I think. Okay. Something like that. I don't know. I think so. And it's printing amazingly.
Starting point is 02:05:27 That's awesome. I'm impressed. The ABS was warping. PLA's way too weak. We tried carbon fiber, but the extruder is too low of temperature, because you know, like 290. Oh, okay. And we were working at like 250, but it was working until the plate was too cold and it
Starting point is 02:05:39 popped off. Oh. So we're very disappointed. It looks cool. I'm excited. But we got a CNC machine, too. Excellent. Yes.
Starting point is 02:05:44 It's going to be a lot of fun. So make sure you check out youtube.com slash castcastle tomorrow at 9 a.m. and we'll see you all then. Bye guys.

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