Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #298 - America First Candidate And Retired Green Beret Joe Kent Joins To Discuss His Run

Episode Date: June 1, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join former Green Beret and congressional candidate for WA-3 Joe Kent to discuss what it means to run as a politician who actually intends to put America first, how to take proacti...ve steps to promote such patriotic agendas, Joe Biden's disastrous economic policies that seem designed to fail, and the blue-collar workers who rebelled against a leftist agenda in Seattle a few years ago. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Speaking at a political conference, former National Security Advisor to the President of the United States, Michael Flynn, was asked about a Myanmar-style coup happening in the U.S. Why couldn't it happen? He says there's nothing stopping it, and it should happen, which the best way I can see it is him calling for a military coup, saying it should happen here in the United States. For those that aren't familiar, there were claims of election fraud by the military in Myanmar. So they intervened. And people started clapping and cheering for this.
Starting point is 00:00:29 And it's worrying because, look, I often say this. It doesn't matter what you personally, what I personally believe or what anyone really personally believes. It matters what the factions believe and how many there are. Because there are people that completely agree with Michael Flynn. There are people that completely disagree. And we're not going to persuade them. So this is it. I mean, the fracture is here, and it's going to get, I don't know, I think the escalation
Starting point is 00:00:51 is going to get worrisome as it is. We've got a bunch of stories about riots. Portland seems to be on fire every day anyway. And so we're going to be hanging out and spending this Memorial Day with retired Green Beret Joe Kent, who's running for office as an America First candidate in Washington's 3rd District, I believe, correct? That's right. Just north of Portland. Yep.
Starting point is 00:01:10 This is the battleground, right? Literally, yeah. Do you want to just give a brief introduction to who you are, what you do? Sure, absolutely. Joe Kent. I was in the Army for a little bit over 20 years. I was a Green Beret. Started out as enlisted guy in Ranger Regiment.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Worked my way into Special Forces. So I joined just before 9-11. I was kind of born and raised actually in Portland, Oregon itself. And Portland was much different 20 plus years ago than it is today. So I enlisted in the Army in 98 and then was in Special Operations already when 9-11 happened. And so that kind of set the next 15, 16 years of my life on the war path, literally. So I spent a good deal of time overseas, primarily in Iraq, some time in Yemen, and some time in Africa as well. Retired, and then went into working in the CIA for about a year, and then had to resign after my late wife was killed herself in Syria. So she was in the
Starting point is 00:02:04 military. She was a Navy cryptological officer working with special operations. So she was killed about a month after Trump tried to get our troops out of Syria the first time. So that kind of propelled me into the political realm. Despite all the grief I was going through, I strongly supported President Trump's foreign policy, especially getting us out of the endless wars. We had to go defeat the territorial caliphate to take away the ground that ISIS controlled because of the existential threat they posed to the rest of the world. But once that was done, we had to get out as soon as possible because there's nothing for us in that area. So the way that the permanent ruling class and the government turned against Trump and the way the media got in lockstep to like paint it like Trump didn't know what he was doing. He was just this big, savage, careless man who was going to pretty much upset
Starting point is 00:02:47 the world liberal, the liberal world order by ending a war that really inspired me to start speaking out. It's Memorial Day. I would say I think people but I'm gonna say I know people don't know or care about what today is like we saw with Kamala Harris. It's a long weekend, but I sincerely mean it, man. Thanks for everything you did. Thanks for serving and for your sacrifices and to your wife for what she did for this country and what she did to end, I mean, just the atrocities. Like you said, man, ISIS was as bad as it gets.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And there's a lot of things that the United States has done which has contributed to the expansion of extremists. We've had some pretty bad presidents, which is why I think talking with you about America First is going to be great. I mean, I was giving an example, like the Fast and the Furious program, which gives guns to cartels. We've got to do something about this, man. We've got to stop this stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:36 But sincerely, man, on Memorial Day, I mean, thanks for being here. So we'll get into all this stuff. It's going to be a good conversation. We've got Ian. Hello, everyone. Ian Crossland over here. Good to see you, Joe. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Good to see you, too. I'm looking forward to hearing more about your experience the last couple decades. Yeah. Going to be good. And Lydia in the corner pushing buttons. I am decked out very patriotically. I intentionally wore red, white, and blue today. I was feeling very patriotic.
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Starting point is 00:04:44 Do whatever you got to do. Because we don't have the marketing budget of these big media companies. It's just you guys. You guys be the marketing branch, and then people can hear these conversations, and maybe some people will learn about what Memorial Day means. So without further ado, we'll just jump right into it, and I'll just ask you, man. Let's just start talking about your campaign. You're running as a Republican, but you're running as an America First candidate. What does that mean? So America First, I'm running against a sitting Republican, Jamie Herra Butler. She voted for the impeachment of President Trump.
Starting point is 00:05:15 That was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back. But prior to that, she had been a pretty horrible representative and pretty horrible Republican as well. So she voted to withdraw the funding to construct the border wall, the additional emergency funding that President Trump was using to secure our southern border. She voted in support of Obamacare. She voted for the war. She voted to keep our troops in Syria. She went along with the whole Russian bounties in Afghanistan lie from last year. So in every sense of the form, she is exactly what we need to get rid of in Washington, a career politician, a Democrat, a Democrat. Yeah, a Democrat. So is exactly what we need to get rid of in Washington, a career politician, a Democrat, a Democrat. Yeah, a Democrat. So it's the weirdest thing to me. I mean,
Starting point is 00:05:52 yeah. Why would someone run as a Republican but clearly be a Democrat? I think she just had blind hatred of Trump. She's been very outspoken about that. In 2016, she said that she penciled in Paul Ryan because she couldn't vote for President Trump. And then she kind of got quiet when Trump started to actually make progress. But then every key time that she could have stood strong and actually worked in the Congress to push through some of President Trump's key agenda items that he was elected by the American people for and that she wrote his coattails into office on, she folded every single time. She fell to the old D.C DC mainstream media Lincoln Project narrative because it's
Starting point is 00:06:25 easier to do, I think, in DC when you're disconnected from your people. It's much easier just to fall in with what the mainstream media pushes you. So you're a is it fair to say you're an anti-war kind of guy? I am. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I am not a isolationist. I think we need to have a robust, strong military. We need to have robust intelligence capabilities throughout the world to keep us aware of what's going on so we can eliminate threats before they become a major crisis. But these endless wars, the way that we have really gone and done regime change wars and then not course corrected the times where we've really messed up, which has been the entire global war
Starting point is 00:07:00 on terror. I'm very much against those. What was it like? Like, how did you kind of rectify the way? How did you come to grips and come terms with it personally, like serving over there and thinking about that? Yeah, maybe you were there or that the US was there for nefarious purposes. I don't know how you think about it. Yeah, I think at well, when I first joined the military, I just wanted to go fight for my country, you know, very young patriotic seeing the 1993 Black Hawk down moment when I was 13. That that was pretty key in my life because you know, it was the first time I think we saw like brutal combat actually on TV. Like the Gulf War, there was some television going on then but actually seeing in 93 CNN
Starting point is 00:07:37 filming American soldiers getting drugged to the streets. I was just like, wow, there's guys over fighting real evil and we're back here in the States just kind of hanging out. So I want to go do that. So, and then 9-11 happened. I had already been in the military for a couple of years. And so we just trained and trained and trained and hope that we would someday get our shot. Cause that's what you want to do when you're in the military, you want to go fight for your country. So after 9-11, we thought that we had the most righteous mission ever. Um, but we quickly pivoted from that. So for pretty much from the time that bin Laden and crew ran into Pakistan, I mean, George Bush even said in April of 2002
Starting point is 00:08:09 that we changed our mission to nation building and we were going to build these democracies in Afghanistan. And the next thing you know, they're like, guys, we've got to invade Iraq. And then they made up all that intelligence. So by the time I got into war in Iraq, I was eager to be there, but I thought that someone above my level knew more than me. So the first time I went to war, I was 23 years old. I was a Sergeant Green Beret. We were tasked with either going out and finding or arresting members of Al-Qaeda or Saddam's regime.
Starting point is 00:08:39 And then we got tasked with a classic Green Beret mission, which is to build militaries out of local forces. So we took a bunch of the anti-Saddam militias and we started to turn them into the Iraqi security forces. When I was going through some of the rosters of these militiamen, a lot of them had huge ties to Iran. They're Iranian funded militias. And then I was like, this doesn't seem like a good idea because Iran pretty much hates our guts too, you know, knowing just the history of Iran and our dealings with them so but you know in the back of my head I was like surely somebody knows more than me there's like generals somewhere that have a plan did you know the history of Afghanistan and the Mujahideen yes and all that so I mean a certain point you're like
Starting point is 00:09:17 wait a minute wait a sec yeah I mean you put some faith and you think that there's somebody behind the curtain at Oz um and then just watching how we just continued to double and triple down on failure like when i was in iraq when they they gave the order to disband the iraqi uh government and the iraqi military and say that all these guys that were associated with the bath party couldn't have jobs and all of us that were on there on the ground level we were like this is a terrible idea this would be like going like going to the town that my military base is in and saying, hey, guys, you don't have jobs anymore. We're not paying you next month. And the government pretty much hates you and we're coming after you.
Starting point is 00:09:51 But leaving us the keys to the armory. I mean, how do you think that's going to go? That's basically what we did in Iraq. So I just saw the narrative slowly get chipped away based on what I was seeing in the ground. What was it? Was it contracts? The big companies were getting money? Like, why stay in there? Why did it become, okay, we're not after, you know, Bin Laden anymore. It's nation building. I think a ton of it was hubris. I mean, just really at the highest levels. I mean, people in the Bush administration, they really believe in that neoconservative ideology that
Starting point is 00:10:24 if we went over, especially in a place like Iraq because it's centrally located, it does have the potential to be independent and to be successful and really thrive. Because it looks good on paper, they thought, hey, if we just apply enough good old American force and a good old American can-do, like these guys are just going to be like, well, thanks, America. Let's have an election. Yeah, democracy just kicks in. It just kicks in. We'll be your best friends. We'll cut you a great oil deal next thing you know you know no but none of that actually works so i think people they just doubled and tripled down on that idea because they were embarrassed and the the bipartisan effort that the iraq war was going
Starting point is 00:10:58 back to our current president joe biden who was the head of the senate foreign relations committee at the time there was bipartisan lying that went on to the American people. So then there became this bipartisan game of like, hey, we're all kind of part of this. And then the folks at the top levels of the military, anybody who disagreed with the way the invasion went, they got fired. And so all the yes men got promoted and they just said, hey, we can we can make this work. And a lot of them, I think, probably had the best of intentions. They were like, hey, if the U.S. government's going to put this all on our shoulders as the military, we will do the best that we can. But at the end of the day, if you tell the military to go do stuff, they're just going to apply military tactics. How long were
Starting point is 00:11:35 you in Iraq? So I have about five years total on the ground. I was there pretty much every year of the war, minus 2010. And then I went back again for a withdrawn 11. And I went back again in the counter ISIS fight in 16. That was the next question I was going to have for you is, you know, you went back to fight ISIS. Your wife did as well. So this is a really different kind of mission, I guess. So after you saw everything with the nation building, what was it like when, you know, ISIS was picking up these people, like the caliph when ISIS was picking up these people? The caliphate was truly horrifying what these people were doing.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Did you have a different vision of it? Like all of a sudden now you're like this one matters? Well, yeah. I mean a lot of it too was I told you so. Not just me but a lot of us that had boots on the ground. When I was there in 2011, by that time, we had pretty much handed the entire government over to the Iranians. The Iranians did a really good job of infiltrating the government of Iraq, so much to the point that Iranian generals like Qasem Soleimani felt very safe
Starting point is 00:12:36 running around Iraq because they knew that we didn't have the actual political will to take them off the battlefield. Iran saw that they could kill American soldiers under Bush, under Obama, and that we wouldn't do anything. And so they felt emboldened when we left the country. They completely and totally took it over. But as they were doing that, they were disenfranchising, which is, to put it mildly, the entire Sunni population. So especially when the Syrian civil war broke out and Assad was fighting the Sunnis, you could just break it down geographically. As long as there were Sunnis in between the area just to the west of Baghdad and just to the east of Damascus, getting pushed by these two Iranian
Starting point is 00:13:11 Shia forces, you had an absolute civil war. So the only means of recourse for the Sunnis was ISIS or Al-Qaeda or some form of Sunni extremists. So really, the evolution of isis is was pretty much born the day that we invaded iraq and then disbanded the iraqi military and then it's it's really fascinating how you know under obama i mean it grows yep couldn't really do anything to stop it but uh trump just wiped it out right yeah i was there i was there in 16 under obama and the rules it was most deployments in the obama era were we have to be deployed because Obama doesn't want to pull us out because he'll look weak, but we also really don't want to fight. You know, the latter part of Bush was that way too. Bush was just done probably like around,
Starting point is 00:13:54 I don't know, 06 or 07. He was just like, I'm riding this out and you guys are over there and I'll leave it to the next guy to include negotiating deals for the status of forces. But Obama, those last years, it was the same thing. He had called ISIS the JV team early on, and then after that, he just did not want to deal with it. Did you think that Obama wanted ISIS because it was causing problems for Assad and we wanted Assad out, so let ISIS have Adam, and then we'll come and clean up, we'll sweep it up and take it once it's done? There was definitely people in his security team, in his national security establishment, that I think did want that.
Starting point is 00:14:28 They very much wanted another war in Syria. And I think a lot of them are still in the government right now. So I think that permanent ruling class of neoconservatives and neoliberals who, you know, they say different things to justify their wars, but the end state is always more invasions, more occupations. I think those guys are pulling the strings from behind the scenes. I've had a lot of conversations with people about Trump, the Abraham Accords and the conflict. And, you know, on the surface, I think the Abraham Accords did a lot of good, normalized trade between a lot of countries in Israel. But we've
Starting point is 00:14:58 had people say it was nothing, you know, it was just like these countries were already working together. I disagree with that. I really do think that when it comes to the Israel-Palestine issue, people are very tribal and just hate one side or the other. And I'm like, look, I think Trump was America first all the way. He didn't want to be involved in any of this. He didn't care about what it was. He said, what do we do to end it? I'm done.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Let's get out. Why are we here? Absolutely. So we actually had, I think Scott Horton told us this, right, where he said within the first three months, Trump ordered a full withdrawal from Afghanistan. He gets in office, says, get him out, we're done. And they stopped him. They said no. They blocked him.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And then we get four years of Trump, and then it never happened. Yeah. I mean, it's just that there is that class there in the Pentagon, the national security establishment, that they are, I think a lot of them, and I understand this, and this has kind of been my story and my trajectory throughout my career. I felt that we needed to continue to stay over there. I felt compelled that, hey, we need to keep going over and fighting because we've lost so much, especially if you're in a leadership position. You're like, we lost these guys in this last deployment. We've got to go back over and we got to make it right. And I don't just mean like revenge, but we got to go get something. We've given so much. We've got to go back over and we got to make it right. And I don't, I don't just mean like revenge, but we got to go get something. We've, we've given so much. We've got to get something out of this. I want to make it work. And I think there is a lot of that, but I do think there's also a lot of, but then that quickly can shift into pride, into hubris really fast.
Starting point is 00:16:16 When a civilian, civilian leadership comes in and says, Hey, military guys, like this isn't working. What are you doing? It's like, screw you. I've been fighting and dying. Like, what do you mean? It isn't working. So I think that's,'s like, screw you. I've been fighting and dying. Like, what do you mean it isn't working? So I think that's, but there is also a lot of money tied up into that and a lot of careers. And there's been this whole machinery made to keep us at war. What's that thing called where, you know, people will invest in something? Sunk cost. Sunk cost.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Yeah. Gambler's fallacy. Yeah. And the gambler's fallacy. They keep putting more and saying, no, no, no. Now is the, I already put in a million. I'm not going to lose it. I'll just put in another.
Starting point is 00:16:46 We'll get out. We'll get out. We'll dig ourselves out of this hole. And it's like, at a certain point, man. You've got to be honest with yourself at some point. I mean, I really wish that I could come here and say, hey, I served for 20 years. And in the five years I have on the ground in Iraq, like I built this thing and it worked. And we made the world a better place.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I wish I could say that. But at the end of the day, our job is to win and our job is to do the best that we can for our country. And if we're not being honest and saying at like the halfway point of trying plan a that like, Hey man, plan a sucks. It was my idea. My bad. Let's learn from that and let's shift to something else. But we, the government is terrible at that political agendas, but then also, I mean the military, the occupation mindset and the occupation machinery, it is very lucrative.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So now you're a, you said you grew up in portland i did you're you're running for office in washington which is the district just north of the portland area yep uh you're you're back from military conflict you've seen the the good the bad what's your plan what do you want to do for america so plan right now is the america first agenda And the America First agenda, to me, is taking everything that we are blessed with here in America and producing what we can for our people to secure our country. So a big problem that we have right now, I think, in America is our deficit spending. Like we're running the national debt through the roof, and that's not just fiscally bad. I think for a while we've been able to get away with that because America produced things and America was actually a place where we invented and produced things.
Starting point is 00:18:09 We've killed off that entire part of our country under the banner of either on the right, right-wing folks are just like, hey, whatever the market will bear. Free market, man. If it's better for the market to ship all of our jobs overseas, then it's fine because we get more access to cheap crap at Walmart. And isn't that a great economy? And then the lefties come in and they say, hey, no, we can't drill for oil because it's bad for the environment. We can't cut down trees because that's bad for the environment. Now we're in this position where we don't produce anything.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And China and then the Gulf Emirates, Japan, all these other countries, they're eventually going to stop buying our debt bonds. And what happens when they stop buying our debt bonds? And if you're China and you have malicious intent towards America, to put it mildly, you stop buying our debt bonds and what happens when they stop buying our debt bonds and if you're china and you have malicious intent towards america to put it mildly you stop buying our debt bonds you could crash our currency i mean yep yes that could make 08 look like a there's been there's been concern about the belt and road initiative because china is basically you know we we send them petrodollar because we want them to use and support our system but then they just use it to fund the expansion of their trade routes and other factories.
Starting point is 00:19:07 But they earn allegiance from other countries using the money we're giving them. So we've created this kind of downward spiral for America. I wonder if the crash is inevitable. The U.S. reserve currency will eventually just not – it won't be the reserve currency anymore, the U.S. dollar. And there's already a lot of people saying that for the past several years it's been the case you know russia and china have dumped been dumping dollars they don't they're not as concerned they're preparing for a shift and so if we don't get on track like with what trump was doing bringing the factories back securing our borders yeah getting people in america producing and working yep then when that
Starting point is 00:19:40 happens it's going to be worse as you said worse than i wait probably worse than the great depression yeah but if we bring our factories back, secure our borders, start producing again, when that happens, we'll be all right. Yeah, no, that's exactly it. So all these, everything that we just discussed, I think sometimes gets dismissed as, oh, that's just an economic issue. It's not. It's a national security issue. I think we need to be on a war footing with returning production back to our country. So deregulating a lot of these industries that have been gutted by overregulation in my district, heart of timber country, and that whole industry
Starting point is 00:20:09 has been gutted over the last couple of decades under the guise of environmentalism. We've just let these forests absolutely fester. We've killed off a very lucrative logging industry. So I want to start there and start restoring that industry so that we can actually have people stay in our state, graduate high school, they don't have to go to college, take a bunch of student loan debt, live in their town, and support a family off of one income. That was the American dream for a long time. We've been told by the media and the left that those days are over. You can't have that.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You need to get a college degree at any cost, even if you take a whole bunch of college debt. And then when, you know, I'd say from Gen X on, once we took on the college debt and we moved to a big city, half of those jobs have either been shipped overseas because they're tech jobs, or we've had legal immigration come in with the H-1B visa system, L-1 visa system, and absolutely undercut those as well. Can we do that sustainably, the timbering? Yes, absolutely. We totally can. So what does that mean for you? absolutely undercut those as well can we do that sustainably the timbering yes absolutely we totally can um so what does it what does that mean for you you probably got a lot of environmentalists being like he's got wants coming and chop down our forest right exactly yeah so we have to have the government control all the forests no i mean it is it is in the best interest of the companies
Starting point is 00:21:18 that would go and harvest the timber to do it responsibly you know it's not in their best interest whatsoever to go and just clear-cut acreage after acreage. I mean, these families, these timber giants, they've been doing this stuff for quite a while, and there's a way to do it. And there's a rule for the government, but I don't think the federal government. There's a rule for the state government and the local government to have some sort of checks and balances in there. So if you did get a bad actor who's like,
Starting point is 00:21:42 aha, I'm going to go clear-cut all these forests, aha, never catch me you know that we do have a the mechanism to stop them but having the federal government control half of our state land is just ridiculous i think back to 2016 watching hillary versus trump and you know it really felt to me like we were at this we were entering this really dangerous period where the u.S. superiority was being threatened. We are the superpower. We control so much around the world, military bases everywhere. And one thing that we say too much on this show is Thucydides' trap, which is as a rising economic power supplants the dominant, there's a war that breaks out. So I think by 2016, and it seemed like Hillary Clinton's mentality was we will not stop. We like we are facing this this this threat to the United States and we will blow up whoever we have to to maintain our position. So when she
Starting point is 00:22:31 when she was questioned about a no fly zone over Syria and she was warned that would lead to war with Russia, she said she didn't care. She was like, so what? Well, you'll go to war with Russia. It has to be done. Trump said, why do we want to go to war with Russia? Right. We want to do that. We want to come back and make America great. Yeah. So I viewed Trump as someone who was saying, listen, we shouldn't be doing these things. The crash, if it hits us, we need to be prepared for it. Yes. And if we keep looking externally to just forcing our way to try and maintain this rickety system, we're going to we're going to have that long fall. We're not going to have the ability to produce medicine, which we saw with COVID. Yeah. It's remarkable that when we're in this mass pandemic no vitamin c china makes it mask china makes it yeah antibiotics china makes it yeah that to me was was really incredible yeah i mean just look at the lesson that we learned from the masks right there alone that should have been a wake-up call okay it was masks and it turned out that it really wasn't that big of a deal but what if that was something absolutely essential i mean it was vitamin c yeah vitamin c and china's just like
Starting point is 00:23:23 hey we don't have it or you're done. Or if they want to be a bad actor about it. So, I mean, I think the best thing that we could do for our national security is bring back our industry and our production. And energy is a huge one. We saw what happened when Biden turned off the Keystone XL pipeline. And now gas prices rise. I mean, Hillary would complain all day and want to go potentially get in wars of Syria over strategically worthless land, like with wars of Russia, to get into a fight over Syria.
Starting point is 00:23:49 But at the same time, she lets Russia become an oil giant. If we put U.S. oil back on the market, all those prices go down and Russia has less money to play with. It starts to make sense. Now, with Syria, they want to run that pipeline, the gas pipeline. With Russia, the U.S. shuts down the Keystone pipeline, the U.S. You know, then the colonial hack happens. We have all these problems. Then Governor Gretchen Whitmer says she wants to shut down this pipeline. Yeah. Well, when you think about it, maybe the issue is they want to maintain the system of the U.s reserve currency for oil so take u.s oil off the market so that the united
Starting point is 00:24:27 states has to spend money on other people's oil giving them an incentive to keep producing giving them an incentive to stay on the u.s dollar right propping up the system that's failing yeah whereas under trump it was energy independence yeah i like the i like the methodology where we just sell our own oil i like and produce it you know i like the methodology where we just sell our own oil and produce it. I like the methodology of not regime change wars. Right, exactly. Not going nation building and then being more self-reliant. It's fascinating to me that it's the conservatives that are actually arguing for more cooperation at this point. And it's the Democrats.
Starting point is 00:24:59 The whole political ecosystem is like flipped. The neocons were like, we're going to go in and we're going to remove this guy and we're going to build this thing. Now the conservatives are like, no, no, we're not isolationists. We just want to do our thing and sell and build. And that's international cooperation. That's not isolationism. So when they smear the populist right
Starting point is 00:25:18 as like nationalist, authoritarians or whatever, it's like, they're the ones saying not to go to war and to make America great, which would require America to negotiate and trade with the rest of the world in a more peaceful way. But somehow these anti-war leftists view Trump as the problem. Well, I shouldn't say all of them because a lot of them know how bad Biden and the Democrats are.
Starting point is 00:25:36 But now we get Joe Biden. And another thing that we've heard is, you know, Russia's building oil pipelines, becoming oil rich, and the U.S. is shutting ours down, taking away our independence. Yeah, it's crazy. They don't want to drop the system. They want the U.S. reserve currency to be this permanent system. I guess they don't want people in this country working. Yeah, that's a crazy way to go about it because if you want Russia to behave better, just take away some of their money.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And you do that by bringing up the price of american oil or putting american oil back on the market if americans don't produce anything but the u.s dollar is the reserve currency then we don't have to produce all that much because we can just print money and then we get to buy whatever we want we've got to do work that's that's unhealthy yeah it's insane rolling up your slaves and doing hard work is good for personal development yeah so i i look at you know many of these socialist young people they they claim to represent workers but they don't work they've never worked right the most exactly i don't want to say every single one but they think you know working at the college library or starbucks is a real job it's like yeah go lift 50 000 pounds of luggage working in an airport and watching these exactly or clean a
Starting point is 00:26:37 toilet or clear a sewer yeah what we have now are a lot of people doing menial tasks they're unhappy with it because there's no purpose to it but what happens i guess maybe there was some noble cause from some you know neocon or neolib where they were like if we dominate the world we'll never have to work again well now we have a bunch of gluttonous entitled individuals who don't want to work don't know how to work and think things should be given to them they've they've grown up in a system that has just given them whatever they wanted what What happens when that falls? Well, yeah, absolute chaos. You see, like, the rise of ISIS.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Like, if you look at the Ba'ath Party you were talking about earlier, and this Lockheed Martin, this constant military, they basically disbanded the Iraqi government, the Ba'ath Party. All these people, I don't know how many, thousands, hundreds? Thousands. Became unemployed. Right. And they had the access to the military, so they started, basically, they started ISIS.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah. I mean, I don't know if there's a direct paper trail for that, but that's basically what happened. So if they're if this global military industrial complex is doing that to the United States now and they're causing mass unemployment, that we might see an uprising of some militant wing organization, hence Antifa. So then and then they could use that as an excuse to start a war against Antifa. And then they could use that as an excuse to start a war against Antifa, which is what they did against ISIS. Or that just causes massive instability in the U.S. for whatever reason. And like a reason to deploy troops. More money for the machine.
Starting point is 00:27:54 There was a story in the Wall Street Journal. They said, how to know that inflation is here to stay. And they said, you know, the Fed is saying it's temporary. You know, we have a sudden surge of demand because the restrictions are being lifted. However, what they note is really interesting. They said American families are flush with cash. Yeah, because of all the stimulus. Right, they've just been giving people money, but there's nothing to buy.
Starting point is 00:28:16 So what happens? Now, some people couldn't pay their rent. People in big cities were having problems. But what happens to the average family where they're being given the stimulus and they're just putting it in their account and they're not doing anything with it? We see this all the time in the super chats. People are like, hey, here's a super chat from my stimmy. It's like a lot of people weren't sweating that much. They got this money.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Some people said they bought Doge with it. Some people were saying, you know, that they were buying Bitcoin or whatever. But so now we're hearing that a lot of people have a savings. They have cash. That means they don't need jobs. Yep. So McDonald's and these other fast food restaurants are offering $500, $1,000 sign-on bonuses. No one needs the money.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I shouldn't say no one, but a lot of people don't, so they don't take the job. Not only that, you can't buy the things you want. I hear every day from my friends, like, man, I've been trying to buy a PS5. I can't get one. If the PS5 doesn't exist, why would someone go get a job to buy one? If i can't get one if the ps5 doesn't exist why would someone go get a job to buy one you can't buy it you can't buy it so what do they really want right now so that means a lot of people who normally would be like hey i need to get a job because i really want to get the new playstation are going to be like i don't need to yeah i can live in a van and
Starting point is 00:29:18 just sit here then you have people who have tons of money in their savings saying as soon as the ps5 comes out i can go buy it why get a job i've got money in the bank the only problem is if you don't work to make stuff there's no stuff to buy exactly so this seems like either accidentally maybe it's on purpose the mass printing of money which biden's not going to do another six trillion dollars yeah hyperinflation is here to stay but it's worse than that supply won't come back if no one needs to work and And if no one needs to work, then nothing gets made. And if nothing gets made, no one buys anything. This, to me, sounds like it is the Great Reset. I think the left, if we let them go unchecked, that's what they want is they want total control.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Because right now, with COVID, they're able to accelerate the program they've been working on for years. They kill off all the industry jobs through overregulation. The right establishment does it, too, at the altar of the free market and then uh the culture war coming in and saying that everybody must go to college and you don't really want to have a family you don't really need to uh get married have kids and all that stuff you can't have kids right now i mean climate change we might all die it's irresponsible right yeah so they they want to be able to control people government becomes family government becomes. And then now we have the stimulus coming in. COVID just let them fully accelerate, I think, the economic part.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Because then they got the, they had been talking about UBI for a long time. And people were like, we're not going to do UBI. And they kept pushing it. And then boom, it's like, whoa, guys, global pandemic. No one can work. Let's just get them all hooked on free cash. And now it's total control. But it's not UBI.
Starting point is 00:30:42 It's IUB. It's IUB. It's indefinite unemployment benefits. Okay. Yeah. So it's even control. But it's not UBI. It's IUB. It's IUB. It's indefinite unemployment benefits. Okay. Yeah. So it's even worse. Yeah. But it is interesting over the past year.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And now we're halfway into this year. Yeah. People haven't been able to buy all the things they wanted. There's been shortages of everything. And they're trying to condition people that this is the new norm. That, hey, you're just going to go long periods where you can't work, but we got you. But you're not really going to be able to work hard to get the things that you want because that's not obtainable anymore you know i will say first and foremost i think it's good if people aren't being driven
Starting point is 00:31:11 by material possessions for their self-worth i think the idea that uh if people learn how to roll up their sleeves and go chop some wood to eat their homes instead of digging coal and burn itself i like that idea yeah but this is a not a conservative problem i think conservatives for the most part know how to chop lumber and take care of themselves this is a big city liberal problem they're the ones who are going to be left high and dry this is i'll tell you what i find fascinating all this is happening whether it's just a natural flow of the system or it's intentional before covid there was this big push on youtube for van life have you seen this stuff yeah so is it a coincidence that YouTube is promoting all these van life videos?
Starting point is 00:31:47 People go on YouTube and they say, hey, ditch your homes. Go live in a van. Quit your job. Yeah. It's like, okay. So you can't own a bunch of stuff. Right. You won't own a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You'll live in a van. You'll take up less space. Yeah. And humans will spread out. I'm like, I like the idea of van life. I personally love the idea of being self-sufficient and personally responsible yeah and encouraging these people in cities to do something so i have no problem with but i do find it very interesting that this narrative emerges then we get the whole
Starting point is 00:32:16 lockdown thing yep i think when it comes to covid the democrats immediately said don't let a good crisis go to waste oh absolutely and and. And so I'll clarify, too. I'm not saying, you know, what I'm saying specifically is COVID was exploited by progressives and leftists for their climate change agenda. What I mean by that is very early on, they weren't on board with this idea of, like, you know, locking down. Locking down, yeah. Fauci was saying, no, go on a cruise, no big deal. Go to China. Then all of a sudden they flipped.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like, wait a minute. Actually, we should shut things down. We should, you know, pause everything. We should stop travel. They said Trump was wrong for banning travel. Actually, I think they realized, like, wait a minute. This is very good politically for what we've been trying to do. Then all of a sudden a 15-day to stop the spread turned into a year.
Starting point is 00:33:01 We're still here. We're still in Washington, my state. We're still there. Yeah, and now vaccine passports i think we saw it in the new york times the planet is finally healing because of the lockdowns yep they very much were like can we just keep this thing going as long as possible right because it serves our agenda i think they saw that um a lot of the things that the media and even people on the right said that trump was crazy for preaching on the campaign said that Trump was crazy for
Starting point is 00:33:25 preaching on the campaign trail when he said we can bring back American manufacturing you know the all the economists said no those jobs are gone and dead and there's no way that working class wages can rise like that had that had been the rule of economics for years but Trump between 2017 and right before COVID came like working class wages were rising and the economy was doing really really well and so they were about a year out from the presidential election and so like you said don't let a good crisis go to waste like let's let's accelerate this and you can do that when you have the media pretty much 100 on your side cnn particularly yeah right the cuomo brothers you know it's
Starting point is 00:33:59 remarkable too because people can make fun of their low ratings all day and night but they get hundreds of millions of views on youtube youtube puts them on the front page right you search for this news cnn comes up absolutely i can do you know a two-hour interview with you and then cnn can produce a one-minute clip and if you search youtube what are you gonna get you're gonna get the cnn one minute clip they were posting death number covid death numbers i'm uh project veritas right yeah really blew the lid off that it's just insidious panic for views basically yeah and then trump sent out the uss comfort out there and they refused to use it while Cuomo and de Blasio were stuffing old people back into old folks' homes. You mentioned that things were going really well under Trump economically.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It wasn't just wages. A lot of the things the progressives had been demanding were naturally occurring, like a four-day work week. Several large businesses announced that they were doing four-day work weeks because they were doing so well. Reduced work hours. A lot of businesses announced this. Paid vacations, benefits. All of a sudden, we started seeing businesses be like, we're going to pay more. We're going to do vacations. The economy is doing so well. So it's different from an artificial inflated wage increase, like the government mandates it, or it's required because of mass spending. This was legitimately like the economy was kicking up. People were having vacations.
Starting point is 00:35:07 People were doing well. I remember when we were starting this show, I went to a furniture place and I was like, we got to buy furniture for the show. And the lady there was like, 2019 was the best year of my life. Because this was January of 2020. It's like December, January. We had a guy come out doing landscaping and he was like, last year was the best year I ever had. So this was genuinely people doing commerce with each other but that's the opposite of what a lot
Starting point is 00:35:28 of these democrats wanted exactly they didn't want everyone buying and building more right they want a retraction yep they want people living in vans under trump that's right people were building castles for themselves figuratively like they're improving their homes they were growing their families things were better than ever those people are harder to control. You, you, you want the, I'm, I'm the guy that gives you your income. I tell you what little pods you can live in.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like you can't go have any of the resources. I'll give you the resources. That's where the left has just become the authoritarian, the authoritarians. I'll tell you what's funny. We have, we have the meme, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:57 I will not eat the bugs. I will not live in the pod. Yeah. I think it's funny. Cause I've said on the show numerous times, I don't mind eating bugs if I, if I have to. Cause I think if you're, if you're going to be gritty, hardcore survivalist and want to be responsible, you'll do what you got to do to survive.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And I don't mind living in a pod if it's like I'm in the forest. I've got my own little hut that I've built and I'm responsible for myself. I'm fine with that. The funny thing is the city-dwelling liberal types have been living in the pod already. Like New York's been famous for their cubicle apartments where it's like the kitchen and the bathroom, like there's a toilet in your kitchen. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah, yeah. Everything's crammed together. So people in the cities have already been living in the pods. Right. Now the news stories are coming out saying, hey, go eat the cicadas. Go eat the bugs.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah, yeah. That's the city people. You live in the country. We got chickens outside. Right, exactly. We have farms everywhere out here. You drive up, you walk in, they got fresh meat. Yep. You live in the city, You might got to eat the bugs. Yep. But so I'm
Starting point is 00:36:48 like, you know, if they want to do their thing, the only issue is they want everyone to do the same thing. They want, they want rules that are based off of a city perspective that will affect literally everybody. So then you live in the middle of nowhere and you've got, you know, a cow and you want to, you want to produce some beef. And then you get federal regulators saying, you can't. We're putting a hold. So we recently went to farms and we were told there's a shortage because the USDA or whatever regulatory agency was saying we weren't allowed to serve up the beef or something. They were restricting the dates because of COVID.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Then you get the gun laws. They want to make people who live in the middle of nowhere who aren't the problem right live by the rules of the people in the city who are the problem full control everything they're doing is just geared towards that full control because people in the country that are self-sufficient or that have their hands on a key lever of the economy production like they're independent they they as they say cling to their gods and their guns and they build families and they're kind of hard to go screw with as opposed to the the guys that live in the pods in the city that are waiting to work on the gig economy or they're begging for the next tech job. I think it's funny too.
Starting point is 00:37:50 It's like – it's interesting like conservatives are defending liberals in a sense because they're like, we shouldn't have to do these things. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait. Guys, guys, guys. Like if you live in the country and you already know how to source your own food, how to start your fires you're proficient with weapons i understand not the regulation pushing back but if they want to live in the city and live in pods and eat bugs hey go for it yeah just let them do their thing they're the ones gonna who are gonna have to do it the cities are the ones who are gonna have to dramatically change right you know is it like a miscalculation by these city dwellers uh out of ignorance that they're that they're trying to legislate city doctrine
Starting point is 00:38:25 for everyone across the country, or do you think it's more malicious? I think at the top levels it's more malicious because you do – I think the top of the left wing, they really want that full authoritarian control. I think they've done a good job of kind of brainwashing lower information people, and they've done that by infiltrating the media and the education system. And most people that are going to live in a city they've been told that hey to make it in the big city you need to have a college degree in something you know and so i think the universities that just became an indoctrination factory a long time ago where they've been sold this whole
Starting point is 00:38:56 religion of like hey whoever's in charge is who you listen to is the professor in school and now it's the government as long as we get our our team in government that's exactly who you listen to and if the other team gets in the mean orange as we get our team in government, that's exactly who you listen to. And if the other team gets in, the mean orange man, like no matter what he says, like that's got to be wrong. And it's not just wrong. He's a Nazi. And so whatever you need to do to take that away is the right thing. And you're morally superior.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I think if I was going to make a prediction, either there's going to be a great upheaval, a very serious conflict, or within two, three years, everyone's going to be living in pods and eating bugs. No joke. I think people out in the country will still have their farm animals, probably be less likely to be eating bugs. But the way things are going, the way the political agenda is going, that's where we're headed. I think this is a testing period right now. I mean, I think we're on the precipice of either the country drastically changing and we becoming way more authoritarian where we have to listen to whoever is in Washington, D.C. and they have very control of intimate aspects of our lives. Or I think we're going to see a huge pushback. I'm cautiously optimistic, I should say, that in 22, there's going to be a bunch of America first candidates
Starting point is 00:40:03 to go and take the House and the Senate back. And then we're going to have two years of hard legislative fights, hard culture war fights, media fights. But I do believe then we're going to be able to get enough momentum to take the country back in 2024. Yeah. So right now, the Democrats have a very, very, very slim majority or control. Right. They don't technically have the Senate, but the tiebreaker goes to the Democrats. So they do have that power, but they can't break the filibuster. So not only that,
Starting point is 00:40:28 they have to convince Manchin of everything. And he's a West Virginia Democrat. So it's hard for them to move. They do have the House and there have been Republican defectors, like on the January 6th commission. So they do have that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:38 However, it seems like things are really bad. Yeah. You know, so they're saying, but inflation's gonna make everyone's wages go i read this article they were like don't be scared of inflation it means your wage will go up and i'm like wow preying on the ignorant your wage will go up after the cost of everything else goes up and your savings is decimated it's a tax on everybody and then right this is what's funny about joe biden saying no no you make less than four hundred thousand dollars you know you're not a penny in taxes you're a bit of calf care so he says that but
Starting point is 00:41:10 what what and then all of these you know lefty socialists say see he's not taxing us and then he goes i'm gonna print six trillion dollars yeah and that is a tax on all of these people he's he's taking your savings by printing this money yep the value of your money goes down yes so yeah your wage will go up after the fact after they've taken your savings through indirect means yeah and a lot of people uh they don't realize it so because of these things we've uh so let me let me just let me just list some uh some problems with the democrats right now yeah i i i'm i self reflect i'm looking at all the Biden stuff and I'm like, do I have Biden derangement syndrome? Like, was I just tribalistically
Starting point is 00:41:49 like Trump's not that bad right now? Biden's and I just Biden's bad. OK, I've tried to give Biden credit on things. You know, he sped up the vaccine rollout and I was like, you know, OK, if he's increasing the timeline, it's working. I'll say it's a good thing, right? If it's an improvement because I try to I want to make sure I'm not just screeching however he reopened the homestead facility which is the migrant children expanding the mccallan facility kids are sleeping in dirt now i'm not going to blame him for these kids because he's got it but he is also the guy who ended trump's remain in mexico policy which is causing the pull factor he's now smuggling children his administration in the dead of night to other states you You've got the policy in Syria, the missile strikes, the movement of soldiers, the funding of groups with Israel and Palestine just exacerbating everything.
Starting point is 00:42:32 A breakdown of Middle Eastern relations, hyperinflation, the unemployment benefits, the mass spending of money. And I'm like, man, this guy really is torching everything. Yeah. So maybe. Yeah. So maybe. Yeah. It will be enough that come 2022, people vote for the America first Republicans. Because I'll say two things.
Starting point is 00:42:57 First, maybe a lot of people are disillusioned by the whole system and are going to walk away. But maybe that will inspire a bunch of non-traditional Republicans. Yeah. To run, probably like you, to be like America first, let's fix this country, let's do better, because I'm not a fan of the Republican Party. No, neither am I. And I think a big mistake that Republicans could make is think that they can stop the America first movement, because if they go and they throw their money behind traditional candidates, the base that got Trump his victory, they're just not going to come out and vote.
Starting point is 00:43:29 It'd be a huge mistake for the Republicans to make this, make the mistake to think that people are loyal to the Republican Party. Like they're not. They were loyal to Trump. They were loyal to America first. And it wasn't just Trump. I mean, there were some people who were, you know, they love Trump and I liked the guy a lot too. And I think he was a great president, but it's not about a cult of personality. It's about the set of values that he put forward. And I think if the Republican Party doesn't fully embrace those, they're going to get taken over by America first eventually, but they could really screw up in this critical period that we're at right now. There are a lot of people that, you know, live and die by Trump. They scream Trump. They love Trump. They have Trump flags. And there are
Starting point is 00:44:00 a lot of people who voted for him who are like, well, he believes in this country. It's the best we got. Exactly. Yeah. And he's willing to fight back against the permanent ruling class. Like if you just have a career politician go in there, have we picked anybody else that was on that stage in 2016? It would have been the continuation of the Bush-Obama era and the Uniparty. How amazing is it that – like how many countries on the planet are their own country second? You know what I mean exactly yeah right so so it's it's funny how the idea of america first gets smeared
Starting point is 00:44:29 and i'm confused by that right it's also how they smeared the idea of populism i was always confused by that i remember when when it first came out and they were like these populists are bad and it's dangerous and i was like what are they what are they trying to say i'm confused what do they mean by that right and then i'm like wait are they literally saying the will of the people is bad like when the people are are having a democratic a democratic election in their constitutional republic that's not a good thing and the elites should be in charge by virtue of them being elites yes that's literally what they were saying it was very it was confusing to me and then i was like oh oh wait wait they literally mean popular they
Starting point is 00:45:01 mean like the regular people are like hey this is how we want things to be run i think there's certainly some arguments in that you know we criticize the democrats because they're trying to get everyone possibly to vote right so they want 16 year olds voting who have no political experience so certainly in that respect okay i can understand the argument but i'm still not going to vote for a wall street banker by virtue of him being rich exactly that's the most ridiculous idea ever so you get trump but now you're Trump, but now you're starting to see more and more politicians who are like, we're going to do right by America, then we can focus on everything else. What's amazing to me is you get on a plane. You get on a plane. What do they say? Secure your own face mask before securing the face mask of those sitting next to you.
Starting point is 00:45:40 And we're in a country that during a pandemic, when our businesses were locked down, the Omnibus spending bill was sending tax dollars to other countries. Yeah. That is insane. Billions. It was more than billions, wasn't it? Probably trillions, yeah. I mean, we had 12 million to like Pakistani gender studies. Gender studies, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:58 How does that? I would rather give 12 random Americans $12 million than send it overseas because at least it'll stay in the economy. 100%, yeah. But it's because of the petrodollar because they want these other countries using the dollar to maintain that that system and those dollars make their way back into politicians pockets through lobbyists and special interests and super PACs and like it's a whole fixed system and you know and it's not serving the american people i'm i'm you know i talk about living in the pod and eating the bugs and all that stuff i've got no problem i've said this all the time if i get banned you know i'm gonna do i'm gonna get in my van drive down in the pod and eating the bugs and all that stuff. I've got no problem.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I've said this all the time. If I get banned, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to get in my van, drive down to the river, and just go fishing. Just mind my own business. I am very happy to just be sitting there every day looking up at the stars in a little tent, get a dog or whatever. I don't need much to be happy. And I think about America first, and the idea to me sounds like a lot of hard work. A lot of people are going to be doing a lot of hard work to support themselves.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I think it sounds really good for the environment because what the current system, The idea to me sounds like a lot of hard work. A lot of people are going to be doing a lot of hard work to support themselves. I think it sounds really good for the environment because what the current system, you know how insane the current system is? Skateboards. I mentioned this several times. You want to get a skateboard in the United States. Here's what they do. They chop a tree down in Canada, send it to China, turn it into a skateboard, send it to California. With a tariff, right? Yeah, with all these tariffs.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Why do that? That's terrible for the environment. Why not just have a guy in Pacific Northwest cut down a tree, put it into a skateboard, and then put it on a truck and send it to you? Yeah, exactly. Cut waste – so when I hear about this idea of like bring the factories back, get Americans back to work, we'll be working. We probably won't be the biggest name, the wealthiest on the planet. You're not going to have 12 new iPhones every year,
Starting point is 00:47:25 but you're going to have what you need. You're going to be responsible for what you produce. You're going to be happy with it. Instead, we have the opposite. We have entitlement. People who just get... They want stimulus checks. They live in big cities.
Starting point is 00:47:36 They work at BuzzFeed where they get paid tons of money to write articles about nonsense. I'm not a fan of that. I really see this fourth turning in effect. Are you familiar with the fourth turning and how like every generation people become distanced from the past you know that people don't they're so soft that they don't that they have this this this i don't know air of like assumption or this like belief like they're owed things and and peace and
Starting point is 00:48:00 prosperity and like that that doesn't that doesn't like accidentally happen that's right they're they're they're they're it's been ingrained look when i when i was talking i have a story about my buddy started a company he was trying to hire people he kept hiring college grads i'll give you the short version and they kept screwing up and he was like i went through you know hired two people they screwed up i hired two more people they screwed up i hired two more people i'm like i can't afford to keep doing this. These people can't do the job. So then finally he hired some high school dropouts. They got like the GEDs or something. But they had moved from, I think, like Utah to California or Iowa to become actors.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And he said these guys were perfect. And then he realized they took the initiative to leave where they live to go seek their riches and their adventure. And they were self-starters. When he went to people who had college degrees, what he found was these are people who just did what they were told. So they couldn't solve any problems when a problem was presented. And then he realized, like, not only do I save money, but these people are more capable. I see these people going to college not because they're pursuing a passion but because they were told they have to. So now for me, it's like I typically look for for i don't care if you have a degree or not i
Starting point is 00:49:09 care if you have a portfolio you're passionate and you can prove it yeah exactly i think the uh what happened with the greatest generation was they went through so much hardship and so much adversity in the war they fought it collectively together they all fought it so much that they didn't need to come home and talk about it and dwell on it. But they also had stuff to do. We had this whole production industry while the war was going on because we had to have it. And then Americans just fell in on that production industry, went to work, and built the country that we had. And I think that the byproduct of that was the boomers.
Starting point is 00:49:38 And the boomers had this horrible experience with foreign intervention in Vietnam. And so if you didn't want to go to Vietnam, what did you do? You went to college. And so this whole industry got produced around, hey if you didn't want to go to Vietnam, what'd you do? You went to college. And so this whole industry got produced around, Hey, like all the smart kids go to college. The dumb kids joined the military kind of spitting in the face, a little,
Starting point is 00:49:52 a little bit of rebellion to at the boomers who are not the boomers, the greatest generation who took service very, very seriously. And so now the by-product of that is we have, there's no collective identity of Americans. We didn't collectively all go through something, you know, and then you throw in the whole college aspect too where the divide is now class the people that were smart enough to go to college to really learn how to follow instructions properly and get indoctrinated because the leftists infiltrated the colleges a long time ago and then the rest of the country who they're those production jobs they all got
Starting point is 00:50:22 killed so they're disenfranchised then you have the opioid epidemic and you have all these guys these young men just looking for for purpose i think a lot of these city-dwelling college educated individuals don't realize that what they do only exists because of the rural labor market the farmers particularly right people who work in agriculture it's really incredible how that is the backbone of this country. I mean, there's no food without these people. So you want to work in a lab, you want to work in a university, get your grant. Well, your grant only works because you can go and buy food because someone made that food. They don't get it.
Starting point is 00:50:57 So what happens is we have this system. People go to college. They say going to college is your ticket to a better future. They tell their kids, you'll get a better job just get a degree yeah just get a degree whatever it is anything and now these kids have you know art liberal arts degrees follow your passion philosophy you know i believe it or not people do get degrees in folklore and mythology sure yeah but what are you going to do to sustain the system other you know nothing yeah these degrees don't do anything so you end up
Starting point is 00:51:25 with a lot of people who have a lot of useless degrees many who have changed their majors but still demand higher salaries because they've they think they're entitled to it they did what they were yeah exactly i did what i was told i deserve it give it to me now here's the best part these these kids who are all graduating and the adults the millennial adults nearing their 40s who have this massive debt are now the highest income earners and the adults, the millennial adults nearing their 40s who have this massive debt, are now the highest income earners in the country demanding the working class pay their debts off. Yeah, that's right. Is this like, how often has that happened in history where the ultra-rich demand the poor,
Starting point is 00:51:56 I shouldn't say ultra-rich, but where the wealthier class demands the government tax the poor to pay off their debts? No, it's a recipe for disaster. Is there going to be a revolt? Are the working class people going to step up and be like, I am not paying your debts, your salary? Some of these people, they get jobs at $50,000 a year to write articles for BuzzFeed. There are people at BuzzFeed who make six figures. They do really, really well. I mean, it's a legit company.
Starting point is 00:52:21 They make a lot of stuff. But how is it that you can write three or four articles per day about whatever nonsense? Here's a picture of a bunch of cats, and you'll get paid more money than a guy who's fixing your sewer. Yeah. That, to me, is incredible. And that's a problem with our economy. I've always felt this way since I was a kid. I always thought, why is it that baseball players get paid more than doctors?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Shouldn't doctors get paid a lot more? Right. Well, whatever your opinion is on that, I'm sure a lot of people say, well, the market pays. Well, here we go. Right now, you have people who are dredging through sewers pulling out rat kings. You know what a rat king is? When all the rats get stuck together
Starting point is 00:52:56 and they clog pipes and you pull them out and their tails are all tied in knots. I knew a guy growing up. His stepdad would put on a full body suit and go into five feet of sewage and be trying to stick their hand in and clear out pipes. And there's needles and stuff. And that person gets paid less than some 24-year-old degree sitting in an office in New York writing articles about, like, here's five pictures of hamsters. That'll make you laugh. Yeah, that system to me makes no sense and will be unsustainable once the working class, the labor actually realizes that they're getting paid less, being rewarded less for their hard work and sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Yeah. And not only that, service members. I think that's what terrifies the authoritarian left so much about America first, because we've become the party of the working class and the party of the middle class. We're the ones that say, hey, we want people to have a job. We want them to have their dignity and their individual sovereignty. I think that terrifies the left because they're seeing that awakening. That's what actually was so dangerous about Donald Trump because Trump was like, I can make your guys' wages rise. I can put our country first.
Starting point is 00:53:57 You don't need to play by this system that has done absolutely nothing but failure. And that's why I think you've seen the left shift their their focus so much to all these racial issues and the critical race theory because anytime they want to saddle us with more debt or do job killing economic policies they have to they have to distract from that and they have to keep the races fighting how do you how do you convince somebody who works at buzzfeed for high five figures that they're actually worse off than the construction worker making 25 an hour how do you how do you convince them oh race you make it about race and intersectionality yep and so there you go they've redefined the conflict so that they can keep people voting for them
Starting point is 00:54:35 convinced they're the saviors yep when in reality these new york you know liberal types who are in their 20s man i'll tell you when i first walked into that Vice building, I started working at Vice. And the job I had before that, I was working in nonprofits and I was getting a base salary. Before that, I used to work at O'Hare Airport and I was loading bags. Yeah. $10 an hour, eventually made $11 an hour, lifting about 50,000 pounds per day to load these planes. And it was hard work.
Starting point is 00:55:03 And people got hurt. Yeah. And in order to pay for their their their families to fund their families some people work double shifts all day every day and then i walk into vice and i see these people just like sitting back they got like booze on their on their on their table they got whiskey they're drinking and i'm like what you guys doing like chilling and i'm like you're getting paid like fifty thousand dollars a year not all of them advice that was notoriously paid not that well.
Starting point is 00:55:25 But a lot of these people were getting like $35,000 to $50,000 and they were doing nothing. Yeah. Relatively nothing. They did something. You know, they'd get emails from people saying, here's a story. And they'd be like, cool. And they'd take it. And then they'd put it on the site.
Starting point is 00:55:37 And like some people wouldn't even show up for work. And I'm like, so it's true, man. You move to New York City. You can get a do nothing job that pays really really well how long until the people are actually doing the labor that supports this country how long until they say hey wait a minute why am i making stuff for you and you don't do anything there is a an issue i suppose because people say hey the market pays the market's going to pay but then you look at how the policies of of the left are are functioning today joe
Starting point is 00:56:04 biden's just taxing the working class through inflation, which and then giving money to people in cities who aren't working. At a certain point, people are going to say, nah. Yeah. Once they start getting hungry, for sure. I think when the technology is like broad enough that you can communicate, you can establish like pockets of resistance for the workers to defy the white-collar oligarchy, but we need to figure out a system that solves for that, because throughout time, the workers have been rising up
Starting point is 00:56:32 and overthrowing the government and creating a revolution that then they become the new oligarchy and then produce another form of tyranny that another group of workers have to rise up and overthrow. So building a decentralized system where there's no oligarchy i think that's the that's got to be the only way yeah i think getting rid of our political classes is the key because we we can we can vote we have elections we should be able to
Starting point is 00:56:56 do this but we've just fallen in this two-party system and the two parties have just pretty much done the same thing which is screw over the working class so that's why i mean i think you saw the establishment on both sides left and right go after a guy so heavily like Donald Trump. You know, because if imagine if there was more Donald Trump's like that, we could disrupt the entire system and really put it back on a footing where the working class people actually had a chance. Check out this story from 2018. So this is from GeekWire. Clash at Amazon HQ. Construction workers shout down council member over plan to
Starting point is 00:57:25 tax big business so i don't know if you saw this story but the videos went viral and it was absolutely hilarious you had academic leftists wearing their you know red salute fists shirts and shaker bears and they were like we want to tax this and we want to regulate this and a bunch of guys in yellow vests and hard hats were shouting them down protesting good for them so these academic lefty types keep saying over and over again we represent labor in the working class they don't they're the academic intelligentsia yep these they represent college kids who've never had a job yep and these middle middle-aged dudes who work construction who are actual labor showed up and protested them oh i was in seattle yeah i was in seattle we need to see more of this so uh let me read a little bit
Starting point is 00:58:08 they say that so this is 2018 we have this video the clash at uh i think it's outside of amazon headquarters they say council member kashama sawant asked reporters to join her in front of amazon's iconic spheres as she implored her colleagues not to back down on the so-called head tax despite amazon's announcement that it will pause some of its growth plans pending the council's decision. But Sawant struggled to get her message across as dozens of Seattle iron workers drowned her out with chants of no head tax. I don't see these lefty Black Lives Matter types, Antifa types.
Starting point is 00:58:42 They're not labor. They're not unions. They're not workers. Right. The unions are, my understanding is that many of them split for Trump. Yeah. It's a big shift. Yeah, definitely the worker bees of the unions.
Starting point is 00:58:54 That's very red. I think very working class. But the people who run the unions. But the people who run, yeah, well, they're in bed with, you know, the Chamber of Commerce and the Department of Labor. So, yeah, I mean, I think that's just another reason why they have to have these narratives come in um of you know racial inequality because if all the workers like kind of woke up and realized they were being screwed by the same permanent class they they would have a huge problem so so right now in this country and it's been this way for
Starting point is 00:59:17 years you have upper class academic intelligentsia white collar workers claiming to represent labor right they don't but it is it is fascinating because if you look back at history when when a lot of the philosophy and a lot of the the ideologies were being written and conceived of like marx for instance there there wasn't like their new classes have emerged the middle class you know it emerged at some point upper middle class upper lower class lower middle class upper lower some point, upper middle class, upper lower class, lower middle class, upper lower, whatever. So you started to see all of a sudden regular people now becoming landlords. They weren't typically lords, but now there's like an expansion of different classes. And what happens is you end up with people who are fairly well off relative to everybody else, but they're not super wealthy.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So they view themselves as labor well i work for this big company i work for this billionaire therefore i'm not upper class i am labor but they make twice as much or three times as much as the guys who actually build buildings and farm the crops right and now they're protesting as though they are the the suffering you know working class but they're actually like they're they're mid-level bourgeoisie yep and most of them to get that job they had to go to college and that's where the indoctrination started so i think we could chip away at a lot of this too by waiving a lot of the college degree requirements especially like in government if i get into office i want to start hiring people that don't have college degrees i want to i want to waive the requirement that
Starting point is 01:00:41 to work on my staff you have to have university yeah that's that's actually that's been a big trend over the past uh 10 years actually it's been you know growing and growing uh as i just stated moments ago and you know a little in a previous bit i don't i don't care for college degrees you know if you have one if you don't it's meaningless to me yeah you show me your portfolio show me your passion show me you can do the job and you want to do it then i'm down and we can work together and we can make some cool cool stuff. But when I get people like, here's my resume. I went to college for this. I'm like, that means nothing to me. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Yeah. Like, dude, I used to hang out at colleges. You know what I saw? I saw people going to school for like music production just drunk all day. Right, right. Just partying and drinking. And I'm like, and then I know some 16-year-old kid who was every day producing and making music and working with bands.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And I'm like, and he knows 100 times more than that kid who went to college. Yeah. So your degree, I'm sorry, your piece of paper is great and all but it means nothing to me in fact i'll tell you this college degrees in my opinion detriment you know why people with college debt require higher salaries that's right and if the company can't afford it you're gonna lose out to the competition who can do the job and doesn't have the degree but it's the perfect means of control like you have the ideological test there within college and people get really good at following instructions then they're saddled with all this debt so they can't they have to go live in the pod and eat the bugs because they
Starting point is 01:01:50 can't afford a house out in the country they have to go live in this city they can't afford to have kids make families you know it's a genius way to control i i i really am not a fan of uh you know people saying like i have no choice i have to do it i think about the people who got on boats and just you know just landed on the shores of nothing yeah let's start building yeah imagine that like first ship that came from europe to the united states just hard luck lucky enough to meet in some circumstances like you know we have the story of the first thanksgiving yeah okay we're starving it's winter and the native americans like we're gonna help you out yeah and there's a lot of bad history there for sure right but i but outside of that, there were people who said, I'm going to get in a boat for three months.
Starting point is 01:02:28 You know, one in five people will die on this journey. Right. Literally just in the ocean before we even get anywhere. And then once we get there, nothing there. We're going to do it. Now you have people who are like, I should be able to have a house. The houses exist. Give it to me.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Yeah, exactly. So even people who, you know, they get to the graves and like, I have no choice. I have to go move to the city. It's like, have you considered just living the way humans have lived? Like, why do you feel entitled to all of the luxuries of life? Right. I think about this, you know, when I saw the, I was on the Williamsburg Bridge in New York. Free to use for everybody.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Somebody paid for it. Somebody built it. But you just get it for free. That's the kind of thing that people don't understand. They don't realize how much work and suffering and sacrifice was done for them so that they can have all of these free things. Now they're entitled to it. Now they demand it.
Starting point is 01:03:17 My attitude has always been like, dude, if I was in the middle of the woods and I was buck naked, that's zero. That's where I'm like, okay, I got nothing. I better get to work. If I had a pointy stick, hey, I'm up one. I got stuff. This is good. Pointy stick's great.
Starting point is 01:03:32 No, but we're way beyond that. We live in luxury. We've got clean drinking water. We've got hot water. Even our homeless in this country are overweight. It's actually a problem. We should get them better food. They're eating bad food.
Starting point is 01:03:43 But we're almost a victim of our own success. We definitely are. Now people are trapped in this entitlement mentality instead of realizing what life is and that you're entitled to nothing. So how do we get out of that? How do we get people back to chopping the tree down just to get the wood for the winter, to heat their homes, to be responsible for themselves, and not demand all this stuff from cities, from governments?
Starting point is 01:04:09 Yeah, I think we have a lot of work to do with messaging like the more work that you do and the more independent you are the more that you actually have your freedom like you we need to shift the culture from like hey you you have all these things that are entitled to you like you by the time you're 30 years old you should have a house you're like well no not really like you should work hard enough to get a house you should have the the means to pursue life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that's what we're that's what's so great about this country but that doesn't mean anything's guaranteed now this is where i'm i'm well i think many on the left and the right will probably agree well i should say many on the left who are paying attention it used to be a lot easier to buy a house it did the houses the housing market wasn't as crazy but you know the issue is federal reserve the system we have
Starting point is 01:04:45 where joe biden is able to just snap his fingers and flood the market with money yep strips everyone's ability it hyper inflates yeah it strangles the market and so it is getting harder and harder to buy that house yeah my attitude is you know man i'm not going to be demanding of anyone else i'm responsible for myself and if i have to go live in a cardboard box because that's what i have in them access, well, you know what? No one's got to build anything for me. So I'll go into the middle of the woods and I'll hike into the mountains and I'll figure something out. I'll live in a bus in Alaska if I have to, you know, beaten down.
Starting point is 01:05:13 But it is an issue if our society can't function because people can't buy houses because the market's been just absolutely manipulated and broken. Yep. And then I'm not surprised we're headed towards some kind of crisis. Yeah, we just had so much individual agency taken away from us by the federal government, you know, for varying reasons. But the end state has been total control, like the Fed's a great example. So I think we just need to get that rugged sense of what it means to be an independent American back. I think there's cultural work to do there. But I think really expressing to the American people the economic crisis that we're about to be in because all these different countries right now could chip away at
Starting point is 01:05:48 our economy china could pull out the rug from right underneath us so we i think if we got back on a wartime footing to getting our production back online i i think we could potentially see a shift it might take as much of it as a as a generation for people to understand like hey you're not entitled to anything but you can go work hard well let's let's think about this. Joe Biden's got a $6 trillion spending package. And a lot of it includes repairing bridges and, you know, roads and infrastructure. Like what, what are your thoughts on that? Well, if, if it was just truly infrastructure, I'd be okay with that. But his infrastructure bill is like 6 trillion and he considers everything. It's like childcare is infrastructure and like all these different programs or infrastructure. Like he just,
Starting point is 01:06:27 if he says infrastructure, then he gets to spend money on it. And it just doesn't work that way. So there's infrastructure work to be done for sure. But like what, when you go and you repair a road or a bridge, like that takes concrete, that takes steel. So let's produce that here in America. Like why don't we have steel and concrete factories getting back online if we need to repair the infrastructure? It almost sounds like it's on purpose.
Starting point is 01:06:44 You know, so here's a few of the problems they say they want to increase the corporate tax the corporation's got to pay their fair share yep then they say also we've got to pay everybody a higher wage also free trade no tariffs on imported goods exactly then china says they complete the puzzle they say no taxation here cheap labor with no no human rights and when you put those things together what do you get a corporation says okay so it's going to cost us an extra 10 million for salaries it's going to cost us an extra 10 million in corporate tax and we'll save 20 million by putting our factory in china yeah put a factory in china right we can ship the goods in for free
Starting point is 01:07:21 it's incentivizing it now you look at joe Biden's infrastructure plan, and yes, child care's infrastructure was the meme. At the same time as he's trying to rebuild infrastructure, which some of it is a good thing, he's also still pushing the unemployment and now the child tax credit, which is going to give up to like $3,000 per family, which just gives people money so they don't need to work. Which means if you give a bunch of people money and they don't work, you're not going to find people in the United States who are going to want to produce the steel or the concrete or the quarries. They're going to be like, I'm good. And then the only option is for those companies that are getting contracted by the federal government. Biden steps in and says, I got a billion dollars to build this bridge.
Starting point is 01:08:00 So we're going to need X amount of steel, X amount of concrete. The company is going to say, wish we could find somebody to do it, but nobody wants to work. I guess we'll buy from China. And it's once again incentivizing, sending our infrastructure, our capabilities to China. And then who do they have do the labor? I mean, Joe Biden just opened up our southern border. So we have it. Here comes the illegal immigrants for the handful of working class Americans that do want to work.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Why are you going to hire working class Americans? You've got to pay their health care. You've got to pay a minimum wage. You can just go hire a couple of illegal immigrants and save a whole bunch of money. And then whenever you're done with them, you can pretty much discard them. We're being gutted. Yeah, we're absolutely being gutted. Another, I guess you would call it a danger regarding our sovereignty is the way that we get paid,
Starting point is 01:08:46 the way that our money system works. Like right now you work 40 hours for a company, and then you trust that they're going to give you the money for it. You make YouTube videos, and then you're going to trust that when YouTube says we're going to pay you that ad revenue, that it's going to arrive. But you still have to trust that the company is going to send you the money. You trust that PayPal is going to take that money and send it to you. Sometimes they don't. I know. And so we're on the precipice of smart,
Starting point is 01:09:08 a smart contract economy where the money just automatically goes. There's no middleman that holds it and sends it. That's a, that's a big, that's a big danger. How cool would it be? You know, with, with, with the crypto markets, you didn't get paid a week after you work or 30 days. Like if you're a contractor, a contractor. You're literally just watching the crypto trickle into your account. Every minute you work, your account is going up. And if the taxes were paid instantly, I mean, that would be so good. And they could be. That's another thing too.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Like, you know, we got a bungled up tax system. We do. The IRS knows what we owe. They could literally just deduct and have a nice day. They play the guessing game. Well, you know, what they say is that these big tax preparation companies are incentivized not to end the system, so they lobby to keep the machine
Starting point is 01:09:53 going, and it just wastes everybody's time and energy for the sake of the economy to keep the machine going. Hey, if they want to do a great reset, can we start with resetting the tax? Yeah, seriously, because a lot of these taxes don't make sense. What a what a what a breathe of relief that would be for people to have that stuff taken care of i think crypto is is going to be awesome but so uh have you followed bitcoin and all that stuff i have a little bit yeah so i think you know bitcoin is the one true
Starting point is 01:10:18 key these other cryptos are i'm not one of these doomsayers a lot of people hate what they're called altcoins like eth, these other companies. No, I'm a big fan. I think the technology is fantastic. Max Keiser got on your brand. What? Keiser got – Keiser came a couple weeks ago. I disagree with him.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Do you know Max Keiser? I do. He came over and he's like Bitcoin all the way. But I disagree with him. You do? Yeah, Max is saying all of the alternative coins are bad. I don't agree with that. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:10:41 I think Bitcoin is fantastic. It's decentralized. And I think if we were operating on that system or some kind of standard with that, you can't get a Fed to come in and pump money and devalue the system. You got Bitcoin, your Bitcoin's good because it's a decentralized system no one controls. Would you say that Bitcoin is backed by the U.S. dollar or like Bitcoin completely replacing the dollar? I don't think it replaces the dollar. I think it holds value and they call it digital gold right so it's not necessarily something you're going to be using every day for spent for for buying stuff however uh max said once it's around half a million to
Starting point is 01:11:14 between like half a million per bitcoin like a million dollars per bitcoin then you'll probably that's when it stabilizes when it's like you know above gold or whatever uh bitcoins is a store of value it's almost like it's a bank account. So a lot of these companies track your Bitcoin in dollar value and it goes up all the time. Now, the recent crash, people who are inexperienced with Bitcoin are freaking out, but people who have been using Bitcoin for a long time
Starting point is 01:11:38 don't know, don't care. Because if you're holding Bitcoin, you're not losing value. If you're holding dollars, you're losing value. So that's why I think Bitcoin is truly going to be incredible. There are some issues with it. It's fully trackable. It's extremely transparent in kind of a bad way.
Starting point is 01:11:55 But I look at this as maybe that is a way to fix a lot of these problems. They're not going to be able to pump money into the market if people lose confidence in the dollar and they switch to a cryptocurrency market. You've got smart contracts. People can get paid on time. There's more trust in the system. However, the only way that can happen is if confidence in the dollar is lost, which would be some kind of mass inflationary. And then people switch over. It would be funny if it becomes Dogecoin.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Yeah, it just becomes like some big standard. Yeah, I don't know though. I'm confident. And if I were to make a bet, not giving anybody advice, I wouldn't be surprised if in 10, 15 years we were on a Bitcoin standard of some sort. If you look at the trends, like the banking trends, that makes a lot of sense. CEOs of JP Morgan, other bankers are fully on board. I think as long as we controlled that and then we actually were a production-based independent country, that wouldn't be a huge deal.
Starting point is 01:12:50 I think if China goes and says, like, hey, the U.S. dollar is so worthless, you guys need to buy into whatever China coin or some form of Chinese Bitcoin, like that could be a major problem for the entire world. And I'm sure that's what China, I mean, again, with the way that we're running up our debt, like they could do something like that fairly easily.
Starting point is 01:13:07 That's what's scary. Yeah. If we don't do this right, and I think we're not, China could absolutely create a centralized coin and then replace the reserve currency and say we only do business in China coin. That's the smartest way to fight us, really. I mean, Thucydides' trap of like us going and duking it out and shooting with china like i i don't think that's necessarily gonna happen but if i were china i would just continue to uh purchase our debt so we gain the confidence that that's always going to be there we keep printing money they keep watching us eat ourselves alive of critical race theory and racial tensions and then at the time of your choosing you choose to pull out and stop buying our debt
Starting point is 01:13:43 yep i i thought about this a long time ago. Like years ago, maybe like a decade ago. I was talking to my friend and I was like, man, what if China just one day said, yo, we're not going to make your stuff anymore? Yeah. We would just instantly be like cut off from everything. We'd be sitting here holding an empty bag. And I was like, man, what if they said that and then declared war? Right.
Starting point is 01:14:03 We're totally screwed. Yeah. So I guess we can just fire as in missiles, but then what if they said that and then declared war? Right. We're totally screwed. Yeah. So I guess we can just fire as in missiles, but then what? Then what? Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's intentional because they say that it prevents war, right? They want these free trade agreements so that we can't go to war because the U.S. is too dependent upon China. No, it sounds to me like when you look at what's going on with international trade, China's been exempt from everything.
Starting point is 01:14:25 They have been. They talk about climate change and reducing carbon emissions. How often do they mention China? Right. And China just says, we're not going to do that. That's for the rest of you guys to beat each other up with. They build new coal power plants. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:35 So let's focus on that, I suppose. Here's my question, right? America first, not isolationist, obviously. Right. You mentioned that with ISIS, it was like this real evil that needed to be stopped yeah so it's hard to know um when america first becomes we need to do something internationally yeah so i so a good friend of mine cassandra fairbanks has been on the show before and i said you know we look at china we look at the the uighur camps and everything it's very difficult what do we do we don't want war we don't want to just go and fight this massive world war
Starting point is 01:15:02 with china and it would be catastrophic but do we just watch as they commit atrocities cassandra said you know she's like no i'm anti-war 100 there's no like tons of countries are committing atrocities we don't get involved we we can't just go and start war with a massive country and i was like what about trade sanctions and she said well that leads to war so so how do we deal with something like that right if we if we want to take care of america first we want to be self-reliant, at what point would we intervene, say, with concentration camps? Yeah, I think with foreign interventions, we have to have a really clear national security objective. Like this, whatever it is overseas, threatens America, threatens our sovereignty, threatens our ability to conduct free and fair commerce. But there also has to be a clear end state.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Like we go out and we isis is a great example we go and we take out the territorial caliphate and like then it's mission complete we come home we call it good we still leave the ability to collect intelligence occasionally strike if needed but we don't go over there and occupy like there's a clear-cut objective like with the uighur camps and a lot of these human rights violations that go on throughout the entire world it's just a slippery slope. And like, so we interviewed then in China, hypothetically, where else do we intervene?
Starting point is 01:16:09 So my, my, whenever, whenever the far left says like, Hey, anywhere there's an atrocity, it's our responsibility, that responsibility to protect doctrine that like Samantha power and a lot of the folks in the Biden administration just love to that. I say, Hey, well, then go sell that to the american people and then tell them that we need to start the draft because we're going to be at war freaking everywhere because if you never traveled outside this country i hate to break it to you like the world's a dark and dangerous place how about a bill that uh whenever there is a conflict
Starting point is 01:16:38 whenever we see an atrocity we put it up for a national vote yeah everybody votes and if you vote yes you're drafted i I would be down with that. Yeah, that's fair. That was actually proposed, I think, before World War II. They were like, anybody who wants to vote for war, you got to go join up. Yep. Because you can't make someone else fight for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:55 I'm down. Because I'll tell you this. If there was something where I truly thought we had to intervene, then I'd be the first to be like, what do I need to do? Right, exactly. Like, if I'm looking at the concentration camps in China, I'll be like, how can I help? Obviously, I don't think frontline infantry makes sense for me, but I'll absolutely do what I can, what makes sense. However, I'm not absolutely convinced we should intervene.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Right. I think Cassandra made a really good point. She mentioned there's a bunch of countries like – you see these groups in Africa and Nigeria, what they're doing to these young girls. And do we intervene there? I'm like, don't we do? That's where I'm like, hey and do we intervene there it's horrible but don't we do i mean that's where i'm like hey start the draft because it's everywhere guys you know exactly but i think with with an actor like china or pretty much any of these countries that aren't in total anarchy already us being the economically strongest country in the entire world
Starting point is 01:17:40 that gives us a position of advantage so then we can say hey china turns out number one we don't need you number two if you want to do business with us then how about you stop the genocide in those weaker camps and until you do that we're just not going to do business with you we could be doing that but disney is saying thank you right exactly groups yeah disney and the nba and whatever whatever yeah the pro wrestler guy like what was that all about like insane that was that's pathetic yeah that just shows their control it's so apparently it i don't know if it was a some some might have been the movie i'm not i'm not sure there's like an 85 percent revenue decrease i don't have the story yeah in china was that fast nine yeah so f9 i guess they're in their revenue from chinese theaters dropped by 86 percent because of what he said wow you know you know what i would do if like if it were me i was
Starting point is 01:18:25 like in a movie and and then i said i've been to a lot of countries i've been to taiwan and they're like oh i'd be like dude if you guys are mad whatever i don't say you have a nice day yeah like it's like am i gonna pick and choose who's offended who's not offended now if you're offended well you know sorry i guess yeah and that just shows how much how much how China has their fingers in every aspect of our economy. It's scary. It's an issue of the violent tendencies of leftists or the threat. So when you look at Antifa versus, say, you know, the anti-woke, classically liberal individuals, Big Tech and these corporations always side with Antifa because they're the real threat.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Right. You know, they're not concerned about a bunch of intellectual dark web types. You know, could you imagine like Dave Rubin leading a pitchfork march
Starting point is 01:19:14 to like Twitter HQ and like throwing bricks through windows? Right, yeah. They're not going to happen. He's going to sit in his studio and he's going to ask people questions.
Starting point is 01:19:22 But Antifa will show up with bricks. So when an argument breaks out, who's Twitter going to side with? Oh, yeah. Well, Dave Rubin's not going to throw a brick at us. Right but antifa will show up with bricks so when an argument breaks out who's twitter going to side with oh yeah well dave rubin's not going to throw a brick at us right so antifa will yeah so when it comes to china you know you can you can smack talk in the united states people still gonna go see the movie yeah not in china though so you apologize to so you apologize to china but let me ask you this right so um before we get into the super chats we'll do one more uh you're in the um the southern southern southern part of Washington, the district you're you're seeing to represent third.
Starting point is 01:19:49 And that's that's that's the board. That's the front line. That is from Washington to to Oregon. Right. That Vancouver, Washington, the river and then Portland. That's right. The first line of defense against the Portland Antifa. And there we are. They're they're violent mobs. But no, in all seriousness. Yeah. What do you tell me your thoughts on what's going on with the Vons, because it does cross over into Vancouver. It does.
Starting point is 01:20:09 You've got Patriot Prayer over there. So, I mean, this is where you're seeking to represent. How would you deal with this? What are your thoughts? Yeah, it has to be dealt with. So we need to treat Antifa and BLM like terrorist organizations. Like, we need to use the tools of the federal government, the FBI, the U.S. Marshals, go after them like organized criminals and terrorists.
Starting point is 01:20:25 So we start arresting these guys and charging them with federal terrorism charges. That's going to take away a lot of the incentive to go out and riot. But not the groups. You mean the leaders. The leaders. The leaders, yeah. So let's get into the nitty-gritty, though. I mean, a lot of people do have a right to fly that flag and speak their minds.
Starting point is 01:20:43 Oh, yeah, absolutely. We're not talking about going after them, you no i'm not no i mean at this point like right now after a year year plus of this amount of violence we know who the leaders of antifa are i mean i know portland police officers and they're like yeah i know who all the agitators are at this point like i've arrested them and we we have to let them go right you know over and over again these are people who actively organize violence. Right. And terror. And terror, yeah. There are a lot of people who might fly the Antifa flag or the BLM flag who don't. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:21:09 However, there's a very serious challenge where you get to a point where, you know, in Portland, for instance, they're linking arms, forming a human shield as people throw explosives from behind them. Right. At a certain point, whether you're active in that organization, you're aiding and abetting the terroristic attacks. Yeah, you might not get the 10-year federal terrorism charge, but that organization, you're aiding and abetting. You're aiding and abetting. Terroristic attacks. Yeah, you might not get the 10-year federal terrorism charge, but you're going to get aiding and abetting. And once we start actually having repercussions for these people, the base of support is going to die down a good deal.
Starting point is 01:21:34 I think, you know, when it comes to the leaders, we absolutely need the feds to go in, but they're too preoccupied with, you know, January 6th or whatever. I think for the people who are just, you know, doting about and bumbling and providing that warm body as a shield, you put them in, you lock up for a weekend and actually just charge them for, you know, look, a lot of these people are going to get six months if they actually got convicted. That's not the end of the world for any person. That's not a felony charge. That would put an end to a lot of it. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:22:02 But what happens is these people, they're playing a game. They are, yeah, yeah. So you get people who actually are engaging in terrorist activities. I'll put it this way. You know, Michael Flynn, he made the statement we mentioned early on in the show, and we never actually started a segment on it, but he said, someone asked him about a Myanmar style coup, and he said it should happen here. And a lot of people were like, oh, but he's not being serious.
Starting point is 01:22:23 He has no power. He's LARPing. And I'm like, that's irrelevant what you think he's doing. There are people who are cheering for that. That's dangerous. Like saying there should be a military coup in here. People are going to hear that. And that's one more grain of sand. So on its own, that may be fairly significant, but not the most powerful thing ever done by any person or might not lead to a catastrophic moment but when you get some regular dumb lefty type who has no idea what's going on put on a black mask and show they have become a grain of sand which has made that a heap antifa would not be able to be burning down these buildings were it not for these people right so if you know these people are doing it or you don't
Starting point is 01:23:00 i put it this way imagine people are like hey everybody show up at you know the the bank of america on seventh street we're gonna we're gonna protest and you show up and a bunch of people put on ski masks and go in start demanding money and you stand there linking arms i mean you're helping them yeah yeah you know exactly you get in trouble for that so uh anyway um so the the leaders who are organizing the violence yeah we know they're doing it they're not getting charged but what about groups like, we know they're doing it. They're not getting charged. But what about groups like Patriot Prayer? Because they've started fights, some of these guys.
Starting point is 01:23:29 They've gone down. What are your thoughts on that? So I think by and large there's been some of the Patriot Prayer guys went down there and they were expressing their First Amendment rights. I mean if anybody went and they assaulted somebody, then I think they should be prosecuted too. We can't have two systems. It can't be like we prosecute the guys in the maga hat but then we don't prosecute the guys burning down buildings because then you get the situation that we have right now where you have cities on fire for months on end because there's no repercussions whatsoever so i think if you act if if you do something illegal regardless of who you are or what your political affiliation is like you should
Starting point is 01:24:01 be charged for it so one of the problems we're seeing right now is a lot of these district attorneys are leftists yeah so when antifa walks in there you know they get a they get two files one says maga once his antifa to say maga guy prison for life antifa guy free to go let him go yeah yep so it's then we can look at what happened in new york you had antifa show up for this uh proud boys event they're uh harassing people they're attacking people one guy got got robbed. His backpack was stolen. And so the Proud Boys are leaving, and there's Antifa all over the place.
Starting point is 01:24:31 They decide they're going to go at him. So the Proud Boys run at Antifa. One Antifa guy throws a bottle. They get into a fight. Proud Boys win. It's kind of not surprising. But what happens then is when it comes to questioning by the police, Antifa runs away.
Starting point is 01:24:43 They refuse to cooperate. The Proud Boys, doing the right thing, cooperate with police. They got four years in prison. And Antifa got away, and no one knows who they were. So this is one of the problems we have in this country. It works the same way with gun laws. You say, we're going to ban this gun. Okay, well, the criminals don't care.
Starting point is 01:25:02 There's a video going around right now. They're saying it's like, oh oh a group of people with assault rifles and i'm like it looks like some dudes in an urban environment with like short barreled full auto some sort i can't tell what it was i'm like yeah that's like legit hard to get nfa and this is how did he get that in a city yeah these are guys are serious regular law-abiding citizens won't have any of that stuff when you look at what happens to the proud boys these guys are like yes officer we believe in you thank you we'll cooperate now they're in prison the lesson here is don't cooperate with police because you're not going to get a fair deal or at the very least you can see how the system works
Starting point is 01:25:35 if if you show up and do the right thing and admit and and give the information they lock you up they lock you up exactly yeah and there's just been no repercussions whatsoever for going after these these terrorists essentially you know for months on end and it's just spread like violence never goes goes away unchecked if if people act violently they don't just say one day oh hey it's the 15th of the month let's stop being violent like they actually have to be met with force that's just that that's the law of nature that's the way it has to go and so we actually have to put this back in the bottle by arresting a lot of them. And I think if we started arresting the leaders and exposing who they were and how they were being funded like we did with the mafia back in the day, a lot of the popular support that these groups are getting in places like Portland would go away. Because right now they're thriving off this whole narrative that, hey, these guys are out there fighting fascism.
Starting point is 01:26:24 They're fighting for black lives. People believe this stuff. People in the suburbs of Portland believe this. They donate money. They donate political support. I mean, the neighborhood I grew up in gave almost half a million dollars to the bail fund that Kamala Harris was promoting to bail out people that were burning our city down. I mean, that's a level of popular indoctrination that just amazed me.
Starting point is 01:26:45 That's hard to fight. But you're in a Republican district. We are. That's really interesting. Just north of Portland. Just north, yep. And you got to win a primary. That's right. You know, the way I see it is, I've said in numerous videos, segments I've done over the past couple of months, like, why bother voting for any of these Republicans when you empower
Starting point is 01:27:00 people like Mitch McConnell? And what does he do? Agree. The Republican Party in 2016 and 2018 had the ability to do stuff. Trump got in 2017. They could have made some moves. We knew the censorship issue was going to be a huge problem for all Republicans. They did literally nothing. And I'm like, uninspired.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Lindsey Graham fist bumping Kamala Harris on the Senate floor. It's like uninspired. It's the same party. However, if people like you get elected, you know, right now I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is like one of the only fighters, whether you like her or not. I'm not, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:28 she's had a bunch of dumb stuff on Facebook at one point, but she pushes back. She fights in very similar ways to many, like, like the squad. She's, you know, she's loud.
Starting point is 01:27:36 She pushes back. And so I'm not saying, you know, if, if Congress was entirely comprised of just a clones of Marjorie Taylor green would be a good thing. Right. But you need people who are not part of the establishment who are going to vote against this stuff.
Starting point is 01:27:49 I look at the two parties and there's like, you know, after Tulsi Gabbard left, I'm not convinced she's a good Democrat anymore. And I disagree with her on some policy issues, but I think she was honest. She was honest. She was trying. And I look at the Republican Party and I'm like, maybe 10? 10 Republicans? Yeah, a handful. Need more.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Yeah. And if you can get a lot more in, maybe 2020 uh 2022 there will be some significant changes i bring this up because i'm thinking about what's going on in portland how do you get the fbi to actually deal with these people well you need some political power you do need the republicans will need to control the house probably and the senate ideally and not only that you still have to go you still have the issue of of biden but then you can do more committee hearings you can do power absolutely but you'd also needed many of those republicans to be populist american first yeah you know act people who are not part of the establishment crony machine people who actually want to see things
Starting point is 01:28:38 improve i do have a fear of encroaching authoritarianism though one of my fears is that antifa has acted a fool so much people will just say get the feds and start locking these people up exactly and then you get yeah an equal and opposite reaction which is still not a good thing yeah i mean it has to be done right but i think if we treat them like a terrorist organization or like organized crime go after the leaders make an example out of some of the guys that are out there locking arms and enabling it that a lot of it would just kind of go away because people don't want to get arrested and slapped for federal terrorism charges.
Starting point is 01:29:10 But then there does have to be a clear point where we bring the feds back. And I think we can also offensively use a lot of federal funding for these cities because Ted Wheeler, the mayor of Portland, he's let all this happen. And then Kate Brown, the governor, and then in Washington State, Jay Inslee, he's done the same thing of Seattle. I don't think those governors and mayors deserve a penny of federal taxpayer dollars. Like we send in the feds to clean up the Antifa. And after that, we're like, hey, until you guys start prosecuting criminals and you take care of all these rampant homeless and drug issues and crime issues, like you're just not getting any more money.
Starting point is 01:29:38 Sorry. Yeah, man. man if we called them terrorists if we like declared antifa it's terrorists would then like they're the mother of the leader of the antifa that he lives at her in her basement would she be implicated for terrorist charges no no no you still get due process i mean it's still the the federal government and then you know the fbi and the u.s marshals going in and arrest him you know it's still day in court you know i find fascinating you know people genuinely don't believe antifa is real they don't they don They don't exist? It's just an idea. But it's because they watch CNN. Right.
Starting point is 01:30:07 They don't actually read the news. They don't know these things. And so they genuinely think Antifa isn't a real thing. Yep. And so I see these posts on Facebook all the time where they're like, it's a meme. Antifa just means anti-fascist. There's no Antifa group. It's not true.
Starting point is 01:30:20 And then I'm like, here's a list of all the known Antifa affiliates. Yeah. Like Rose City Antifa in Portland. Literally a group with people, with leaders. They have a website. You can sign up to join the group. The group exists. It's called Antifa.
Starting point is 01:30:31 There's New York City Antifa. There's like Salt Lake City or whatever. They literally just call themselves City Antifa. They exist. They cooperate with each other. They work. When there's like – if you're in between Seattle and Salt Lake City or whatever, they'll meet in the middle and both groups show up absolutely but they say it's not a real thing right and then what happens is you get these hearings where and i don't i don't understand where the republicans
Starting point is 01:30:52 are to push back on this stuff or i don't know if they can do anything anyway where they're like the biggest threat in this country is white supremacy supremacy yeah well there's 10 000 of them and that's why like was like the ada no i like, the ADA, no, no, I'm sorry, the ADL standard at the ADK. No, the ADL. There's, like, 10,000 people. Yeah. How many active Antifa are there? Like, substantially more. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:11 We've seen the protests across the country. There's a lot of them. Now, the worst offenders are a lot less. Yeah. But mass protests for a year, riots smashing up windows? Yeah. I think that's a much bigger threat. I suppose, though, when they're flying Black Lives Matter flags at our embassies yeah of course to them the biggest threat is white
Starting point is 01:31:29 supremacy white supremacy yeah to regular americans and the left has no incentive to go after antifa and blm because they execute their their political policy for them and we saw that in lighting the cities on fire in the the year that trump was trying to get elected and then right now the way that they've jumped onto this whole Palestinian issue, like you see the whole Palestinian flag getting flown by Antifa and that's all being done because Joe Biden is screwing up the middle East. Like we gave money back to Iran. Iran gave money to Hamas.
Starting point is 01:31:55 Boom. We got a war going again, but to run cover for that, just in the same way, Antifa and BLM brings up all these racial issues to keep the working class distracted. Now we have Antifa saying, Oh,
Starting point is 01:32:04 it's all about Palestinian liberation. Now that's part of the black lives matter movement like to run distraction it's tribalism yeah that's all it is i because i i i went to um uh belfast and they have the peace wall right from the northern ireland and on one side it's palestine one side it's israel and i asked a local i was like why why what's with the israel palestine thing and it's like oh you know the the one side thinks they're oppressed, so they associate themselves with Palestine. The other side thinks that they're the natural right, so they're with Israel. And I'm like, that has nothing to do with Northern Ireland. And like, yeah, it's just they identify.
Starting point is 01:32:35 It's like leftist causes for one group, nationalist causes for the other group. And I'm like, that's all it is. And that's where I think we're seeing a lot of that here where people are getting into fights over israel and palestine and i and i tell you man there's a lot of people i hear them screaming like pro-israel screaming pro-palestine and i'm like i don't understand like i'm hearing the same thing from both sides i'm not here to equate i'm just saying man people are really tribalistically involved in that conflict and it's really hard to to to figure out let's's take Super Chats, though. Okay.
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Starting point is 01:33:12 probably just wanted to, you know, sit back with the grill, getting the burgers going, and, you know, having your long weekend. Thanks, Kamala. But I guess she came out later, and, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:24 what's funny about that is when donald trump was like happy memorial day you know yeah to all of our brave men and women who served our economy is great and the and they were like how dare trump minimal you know minimize memorial day and then kamala harris is like enjoy the long weekend it's like is that what it is it makes me sad actually man it's pretty sad yeah i wish people were like like you know we should have like something happen on the tv and yeah we'll do an event and talk about like yo this is like serious stuff but instead it's like we're gonna go drive to the beach yep grill burgers yeah you know what though um it's it's a double-edged sword i suppose it's the it's the men and women who fought to defend this country
Starting point is 01:33:59 that allowed people to go have that long weekend exactly burgers on the at the lake yeah i would watch youtube videos of um like stories told by vietnam veterans yeah they come on for like an hour 20 minutes and give their their first person account basically or their you hear their third person account of what they experienced that's what you should do if you want to remember that's right yeah that's what the horror people have experienced so that you can live this this good life that's right let's read some of these chats we got chad randall he says joe what do you think of the greater idaho plan is uh it is the joining of most of oregon to idaho yeah i mean i understand why the majority of oregon wants to leave oregon they want to they want to get away from all the craziness in
Starting point is 01:34:37 portland i think it should serve as a wake-up call really to the the folks in power in oregon we have the same thing in washington too. I mean, these urban centers are absolutely destroying their states. So I hope it wakes them up. But also, you know, power to the people. If they want to align with Idaho, then God bless them. I hope it works for them. Charles C. says, hi, Joe. Thank you for your service.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Any advice to those thinking of joining the Army today? Yeah. Do your homework. Like, know exactly what job you want because recruiters their their job is to put a body into the military and there's a lot of great jobs in the military so go in there with a game plan don't let the recruiter pick the job for you they're like you're gonna be piloting spaceships yeah exactly and then it's like you're in like a simulation room it's like you're typing on a computer and you're pressing go and you're just
Starting point is 01:35:23 wasting your time yep yeah i i hear a lot i've heard a lot of stories like that from people where it's like they they describe it in the best way possible and then it's like the worst iteration of what it could be yep you know you're gonna be going on adventures and it's like they just put you in a remote base somewhere it's like you're just sitting there all right let's see bobby bob says you and your uh you and your quest have helped me find the spine to be extremely vocal on Facebook. I feel so much better. Those who truly care about me stayed
Starting point is 01:35:51 and those are the people I want in my life. It's encouraged others to do the same. I'm hearing these conversations more. Awesome. It's partly sad though. It is. I mean, think about it. You've got, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:01 the average person has like 300 friends on Facebook and you post, hey man, I'm concerned about this and half leave. We're just think about it. You've got, you know, the average person has like 300 friends on Facebook. And you post, hey, man, I'm concerned about this. And half leave? Yeah. We're just polarizing ourselves. We are. And people just don't have the ability to have discussions anymore.
Starting point is 01:36:11 I mean, I grew up in Portland, like a pretty liberal place. My parents were conservative. They used to just have discussions with their friends. And it wasn't like no friendships were ended. Yeah. Yeah. Now it's serious. Where we're at now, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:36:22 All right. John Wayne says, April 2003 task force 120 ring a bell joe yes it does says i was there with you currently living in your district you got my vote all right right on wow cool stuff man all right matthew reccom says i was in dc today and in the metro station i saw an ad to be ready to save a life carrying narcan nasal spray the opioid epidemic is out of control what is that for real that's crazy yeah wow clay chapman says joe have you ever met john striker meyer i have only heard him on podcasts and read his books yeah legendary vietnam special forces guy oh cool yeah here's a good one daddy day says joe are you pro-nuclear
Starting point is 01:37:04 why or why not like pro-nuclear power definitely definitely pro-nuclear power absolutely i mean because that's just another way that we can have energy independence and energy security and there's a lot of fear-mongering around it from environmental groups when it's actually the best carbon-free carbon neutral energy source it's ridiculous absolutely you know i worked for greenpeace briefly one of the things that made me kind of disillusioned with them i was only there for a few months was that they were like nuclear power is bad and then i looked to one of the founders of greenpeace who was like nuclear power is an excellent way to reduce carbon emissions and create high energy density and i'm like what's what do you say yeah like i don't understand and it just felt so political to me
Starting point is 01:37:43 man people like nuclear afi's defense says joe what is stopping america first agenda from being And it just felt so political to me. Man, people like nuclear. AFI's Deepen says, Joe, what is stopping America First agenda from being powered by nuclear tech? I don't think anything is. I still want to be energy independent with our oil, but yeah, nothing. Here we go. Seven Empire says, Joe, I'm a fellow refugee of Portland, Oregon, now over the river in Washougal. All right. XAF security forces.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Regretfully and naively voted for JHB in 2020. You have my future vote. Thank you for your service. Awesome. Thank you. There you go. Brandon Youngquist says, Tim, I listen on Spotify. I work graveyard shift and can't listen live.
Starting point is 01:38:22 I listen to every show later. Wanted to say I live well below my means and more people should adopt this lifestyle. And Trevor is the worst and I miss Luke. I think we reconciled with Trevor though. Yeah, I think we apologized because Trevor felt bad. And then he came back and we were like,
Starting point is 01:38:37 you're alright Trevor. Alright. Wcouch8 says, please ask your guest his thoughts on the Defense Department screening National Guard for political bias for the inauguration. Oh, yeah. So what's going on right now with the Defense Department and the whole ideological test is absolutely insane and very dangerous. So we're essentially making our men and women in uniform take an ideological oath of allegiance, not to the not to the the flag and the constitution but to the political party and power so they've gone through and started looking at who was a line of trump pro trump pro trump facebook posts all that type of stuff and gadsden flags yeah gadsden flags it's just
Starting point is 01:39:14 absolutely crazy so and right now they've got all the commanders in the military running scared so that's why you see so much like woke virtue signaling coming out of the uh the prominent leaders in the military and that that that kind of stuff is creepy because they start reassigning people of certain ideologies, they start discouraging it, and then you get a woke military, and they'll do whatever the tribe, whatever the cult wants. Praetorian Guard. Yeah, exactly. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:40 EHonda420 says, Hey, Tim, I started my YouTube channel about two years ago, and I've been doing a weekly conspiracy podcast called the Gay Frog Chat. It's funny how many things talked about on that show come true in that time. Yeah, it's a weird time to be alive, man. It's a weird time to be alive. Anything about tech says, Joe, thank you for your service. What can I do as a civilian software engineer to serve and help serve our country?
Starting point is 01:40:02 InfoSec, robotics or what? Or is it not even a good idea to attempt to contribute under this administration? I understand because what we just talked about with what's going on in the military, I understand the apprehension. I still really highly encourage people to serve in some capacity, especially in the tech sector. I mean, we're fighting a very heavy tech cyber war right now, mainly against China. But I think pushing for cybersecurity is absolutely essential. I think people don't realize that you could arguably say we're in a new hot war with China because of the cyber conflict happening. I mean, Google got hacked a couple of years ago. It was a very serious breach.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Yeah. These things are. They breached the DOD. I mean. Yeah. Wow. The whole Office of Personnel Management leak. And we just keep going on.
Starting point is 01:40:44 It's not a big deal. Yeah. Man, it's not a big deal. Yeah. Man, it's just scary stuff. All right. Mexican American conservative says, Mr. Kent, we need you, bro. By the way, there are more gun servitives out there than libs.
Starting point is 01:40:53 They just shut our voices out on social media. It's all manipulation. Very true. We are the majority. Tim Bo says, Hi, Tim and team. It's Tim. Hey, Tim.
Starting point is 01:41:03 How's it going? Screw Solar Roads is a project to cover water canals with solar, saves on evaporation, and uses existing infrastructure. Very cool. There you go. That makes sense. Interesting. ChemicalX666 says, Joe, were you in Al-Asad in 2006? I was building camps for the Green Berets while I was in NMCB40.
Starting point is 01:41:24 Here's a few bucks for a few rounds to remember all we lost. Rah Seabees. Right on. I was out there at that time, yeah. I didn't stay for very long, but yeah, we were in and out of Ambar Robinson. It's kind of crazy how many people were like, were you here? Were you here? It's like, oh man, yeah, I know that, you know.
Starting point is 01:41:37 That's cool. All right. Viva Frey says, Godspeed, Joe. Keep on keeping on. What up, Viva? John V says, I never went to college and I'm going to cross right at 110K this year. Right now I'm hauling 20 tons of food into big city that wants to eliminate the fuel I'm using to bring their food. Yep.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Yep. I think that guy understands the economy better than lots of PhDs. It's like a bunch of dudes building a bridge and they're driving across it to bring food into the city and the democrats are voting to chop the bridge down right from underneath it yeah all right man all right let's see where we at not locutus oh good for you says i live in your district sir from one veteran to another you can expect my vote awesome right on thank you eric miller says add a little facial hair and grow your hair out and joe kent could become john snow vote john snow to take on the woke walkers i mean white walkers i actually had hair about as long as yours uh for i didn't get a haircut for two and a half
Starting point is 01:42:41 years after i got out of the military so yeah and then. Yeah. And then I cut it for the congressional. Got to look good. Yeah, the job interview, got to tidy up. I don't know. Maybe up there it would have played well. Yeah, it was 50-50. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:55 I was there like consultants who were like, the hair works in the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, I definitely thought about it. Carry like an ax and a saw with you and wear like a red flannel. So, yeah, I'm a lumberjack. I live here. All right. Jonathan Warner says, first Super Chat. a red flannel so yeah i'm a lumberjack i live here all right uh jonathan warner says first super chat my friend and brother who i served with for six years in the minnesota national guard committed suicide last year oh man today i remember joshua roland lindsey and all my other
Starting point is 01:43:15 fallen brothers and sisters sorry to hear it man yeah sorry but greatly appreciate you know everything that you guys have have have done it's memorial day man people need to you know, everything that you guys have done. It's Memorial Day, man. People need to, you know, I say this. I've been around the world. You've been in much more serious places than I've been. But I've seen other countries. And I remember the first country I ever went to outside of the U.S. This doesn't count. It's Canada.
Starting point is 01:43:37 It doesn't really count. It's America, Jr. Then I went to Spain, saw some conflict. Okay, Spain's a different country. And then I started going other places i went to brazil i went to turkey turkey was the next country i went to and then i started to really realize i'm like man america sure is awesome america's pretty awesome and i i would come back after spending so much time hearing all these activists and all these leftists talk about
Starting point is 01:43:58 what their problems with it were and like you know the feds and all the things they hated which they now love for some reason anyway i just, I think it was like after maybe like Morocco or Turkey or something, come back to the U S and I'm just like, Oh, right. Like, Oh man. And then I walk up and they're like, what are you doing? I'm a journalist. And boy, am I glad back, glad to be back here. I'm going to go to five guys. I'm going to get double bacon cheeseburger, but both peanuts, man, some of these places I've been to scary stuff that people have to live through this stuff. We really have something special here. Really changes your perspective.
Starting point is 01:44:26 I think getting outside the country and getting into a rougher part of the world, you can come back to America. We've got a lot of places. We've got it. And it's not just that, too. Even going to Scandinavia, not just Sweden. I've been to Norway and the ideological homogeneity is also freaky. It's like everybody
Starting point is 01:44:41 agrees with everything and it's like just kind of weird. It's like I like in everything and it's like, just kind of weird. It's like, I like an America that some guy can just, you know, you can see a house with a Trump flag
Starting point is 01:44:48 and a house with a BLM flag next to it. Yeah. Actually, I'm like, that's rad. That is good. Now,
Starting point is 01:44:52 don't fight. Right, right. It's funny that people, you know, we have this, although it is getting a bit extreme. It is, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:58 All right, let's see where we're at. Matterhorn V says, we were misled being told we needed college in the 90s and uh and the aughts the audis that's called individuals need higher education the modern world will survive with less english majors but it won't survive without electricians right well you know when the market corrects i suppose they start paying electricians more which they probably
Starting point is 01:45:19 already do actually yeah yeah because it's hard it's hard to get people to come work on your your place you know this is one of the problems is that people get a degree in like you know feminist dance and then they're like why can't i get a job the electricians are getting paid well yeah just go get an apprenticeship yeah but they don't understand so they demand the government regulated exactly for them brother uh brother bro vet says 350 000 vietnam vets were killed by agent orange if the va didn't hide this number would americans still tolerate the abuse and corruption of the pentagon and permanent political class today i mean they know now right is that number accurate i'm not super familiar i'm not sure if that number is 100 accurate i'm not questioning him it does sound
Starting point is 01:46:02 a bit high but yeah there's definitely been a good deal of covering up with agent orange and now we're living through our own crisis of the suicides and the burn pits like um depleted uranium i heard that the rounds used yeah first iraq war 93 were like radioactive so there's all that all those bullets in the dust basically because the the tanks would have depleted uranium armor so you needed depleted uranium rounds to penetrate yep the armor so then i'll just all this radiation has caused what they call Gulf War sickness. Gulf War syndrome. Syndrome. Yep.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Matthew Reckamp says, If the infrastructure bill was only going towards infrastructure, we'd be able to put routers in a tunnel to get internet access in our subways. That's always been crazy to me. Some subways have it. Some do, yeah. Navasa says, Each altcoin aims to solve a different problem in the economy.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Bitcoin can be the gold standard equivalent, but VeChain covers supply logistics, etc. Sure, a lot of people are always mentioning their particular altcoins, the ones they like, and a lot of these aren't decentralized. Yeah. Like Ethereum runs on Amazon services, so it's more like a company's...
Starting point is 01:47:03 It's a company token, you know? Yeah. So I think there's decent investments in a lot of them in a certain way. That's why I love crypto technology. Bitcoin is truly decentralized. Austin Brown says, this is why crypto is the future and Elon doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:47:16 He knows it is the future. You invent Tesla and SpaceX without knowing crypto is the next real deal. All these different, all these different people, a disparaging term, will turn into 1, 2, 5, 10, 50, one hundred it will be every day oh i'm sorry uh cryptos okay we'll
Starting point is 01:47:32 turn into you know one five ten twenty is that is that what you're saying will be everyday uh use yeah i think dogecoin actually does has a good potential to be used as like cash it's two percent inflationary people were telling me. Every year it goes up by 2%. The supply is 2% increase. And it's a really fast and efficient exchange. So it actually could work if they get some developers on it and make the system more robust. You could actually just swipe it. Boom. Doge is the cash.
Starting point is 01:47:57 People tried making Bitcoin cash be the cash to Bitcoin's gold. And it might be Dogecoin. It's got meme potential. AP says, hi, I really enjoy your videos and guests. I am transferring to UC Berkeley, and I was wondering if you had any advice to deal with CRT. Also, do you all have opinions on right to repair, e.g. Apple products? I think you should have a right to repair. As for critical race theory, you know, I don't think arguing with people who have uh the opposite of
Starting point is 01:48:29 your moral framework will work people seem to think you know like we we hear anti doesn't exist you see it all the time there's a guy who's like you know posting on twitter it's a viral tweet like you know and i'm like you're not going to convince how you argue that yeah you they know they're lying yeah because their moral framework is different from yours. You believe I should be honest to the best of my abilities. They believe there's no truth but power. Yeah. So how do you argue with that?
Starting point is 01:48:52 You can use the Alinsky rules for radicals and make them live up to their own standards. So if you are – I mean, actually, I don't think your race matters because there's a bunch of white progressives who are engaging in this. The way I always say is like, look, if anyone ever tries to call you into a meeting on diversity or whatever, the moment they mention white anything, get mad and say, I'm sorry, is this a meeting on white people? Like, are we seriously going to bring everybody here to talk about white people again? Are you a white supremacist? Use their own logic against them right if you're having a meeting and they bring in a bunch of minorities and start talking about white people sounds to me like they're trying to yeah have a meeting for white people you know so there you go that's kind of racist and then if they don't you can accuse them of ignoring white supremacy so no matter what they do that's the point of their ideology to wield power against anyone who opposes them you can do the same thing
Starting point is 01:49:43 i'm not i'm not entirely convinced that's the right way to do it, but maybe fighting fire with fire works when it's a controlled burn. How would you say not giving your money to the University of Southern California Berkeley or wherever they're going? Yeah, why are you going to Berkeley anyway? You might want to go to Liberty University or Hillsdale. A lot of better places, too.
Starting point is 01:49:57 I'll give you some advice. My advice is you shouldn't go there because what'll happen is you're eventually going to get a professor who's going to say, I want you... everyone needs to write a paper on why white people are bad. And then when you're like, they're not, they fail you. And then you just spend money for nothing. So why go at all? Why not just go
Starting point is 01:50:14 start a business? Like, I guess people on the left don't want to do this, but I played guitar on the subway. I just started doing my thing. You know, make stuff and sell stuff. Yeah, absolutely. I made CDs once. Play but I play guitar on the subway. I just started doing my thing. Yeah. Make stuff and sell stuff. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:50:28 I made CDs once, played shows, and then sold the CDs. We're not in the era of CDs anymore. Yeah. But, you know, you can put music up somewhere, record it with... It's so easy to record music these days.
Starting point is 01:50:36 Yeah. You're not going to get massive studio Hollywood, you know, whatever production, or Nashville production, I guess that's the music place, but you can record stuff with your phone.
Starting point is 01:50:43 You can get apps to help you make it better. Yeah. All right. Jimmy Kinto says, I was hired to bring back a dying business from a guy who has an MBA and couldn't make it work. I did. And I asked for a raise and was denied because I didn't have a college education. You quit.
Starting point is 01:51:00 That's it. I worked for a company once and they were like, we want to give you a promotion, but you need a college degree. And I was like, I can quit right now. And they were like, we want to give you a promotion, but you need a college degree. And I was like, I can quit right now. And they were like, hold on. And then the regional director was like, degree or nothing. I said, adios. And they were like, I'm like, I don't need to work for your company. But I got hired at a company that required a college degree.
Starting point is 01:51:17 It was really simple. You know what I did? I went in the interview and they were like, I had college listed on my resume because I went for like a month. And they were like, so did you graduate? I was like, oh, no, a month. Yeah. And they were like, so did you graduate? I was like, oh, no, I didn't graduate. And they're like, well, this job requires a college degree. And I was like, I understand. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:31 And they're like, but you don't have one. And I was like, no. But if you want to hire the person who's best for the job, well, then clearly you'll hire me as my resume clearly shows. I've got the requisite experience. But if you want to hire someone with no experience at all, fresh out of college, by all means, you can do so with my blessing. I don't need to work for you. And they were like, no, no, no, you're hired. Yeah. They were like, he sold it. Nice. I'm like, dude, if you're not smart enough to see that I'm better at this job and my experience is better than any college degree, I shouldn't work. I wouldn't want to work for your company anyway. Exactly. And when I was in LA,
Starting point is 01:52:02 my agent was trying to get me booked for union gigs. I was non-union. And, you know, in order to have to do a union show, you have to be in the union. They really like that. Or that your first job is a union show. They'll give you your card and you can join the union. So my agents and most agents would say, just put that you're in the union on your resume. And then when you get in there, if they like you, they'll hire you.
Starting point is 01:52:22 It doesn't matter. And that's what happened. And then after what, three times you get your union card? Yeah. No, the first time. They saw it and they were like, well, you can defer to your first one. And then they were like, oh, you're not in the union? And they just stamp it and put you in the union.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Put him in the union. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Brian Fontenot says, no concern for quantum computing breaking standard encryption overnight or to say kill crypto overnight? There is. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:52:44 And by certain absolutely and by certain standards by certain new news stories they might already have the technology to break it however there's you know i've talked to a lot of experts about this and they say there's always the option of a hard fork there's always developers and decent the decentralized network can always repair any crypto that if quantum computing breaks it then then we'll have to, the system has to be robust beyond just one pitfall. If quantum computing can break it, well, that's a problem. But there's a lot of things that could probably break it. 51% of tax are a big threat.
Starting point is 01:53:13 And the market cap for Bitcoin isn't that high. So they could have done it a long time ago. We don't know. However, I think most people, there's different countries, there's different financial interests, all the vested interest in preventing the system from breaking because they've got too much wealth tied up in it. So that's why the more these companies invest, the more confident I get in it because do I think Goldman Sachs is planning on losing money in their crypto investment? Yeah, exactly. I don't. I think they're planning on making money.
Starting point is 01:53:39 And you'd build in redundancy to the system so one hack doesn't take down the whole thing. Quantum computing can break standard encryption, which would unravel the blockchain, allow for pure manipulation. Yeah. But I was talking to some crypto experts who explained to me why they weren't concerned with that at all. They were like, I'm not an expert and I couldn't explain. But that used to be a big concern for me. I was like, I don't know, man. I probably would have bought way more Bitcoin back in the day.
Starting point is 01:54:02 But all the stories about quantum supremacy, Google has got a quantum computer with a ridiculous amount of qubits. And I'm like, I don't know if I want to get involved in something that could be overdone by new technology. And then I had a bunch of crypto experts explain to me why it wasn't a concern. And then I was like, I don't know exactly what you're saying because I'm not a crypto guy, but I'm not a cryptographer. But if the experts that I know and trust are convinced it's safe, all right well i guess it's all you can really do right i don't know why i would have confidence in the dollar i was just gonna say that yeah exactly yeah how much how much more uh shaky is that than the dollar the u.s government has guns i guess but i guess yeah china and russia have guns too right frank skula says hey tim and gang how are your live events going to work how much notice will
Starting point is 01:54:46 people have and what kind of experience can one expect would i have enough time to drive from texas to where you guys are at give me details in all likelihood the answer is yes we'll probably do the announcement a week in advance so like on a monday i don't want to say exactly on a monday so i won't know for sure because i don't want people just sitting there spamming refresh to try and get tickets first come first serve. But you'll get at least a week's notice that like, hey, this Friday event tickets are up. And then we're going to do first come first serve tickets. Then we're going to do auction-based tickets. And so we try to balance it so that the people who are active and see the email notification or whatever will just right away be like, I want a ticket. We don't have a big capacity.
Starting point is 01:55:25 Like this is a small space. So we probably can only get like 30 people. And that might be pushing it. So then the other idea is the auction-based system. So that if you're busy working and you have the resources, you can be like, okay, I'll spend my max on a ticket. And you might be in the top 15 and you might get it. Although some people might spend a ridiculous amount of money. I mean, it's just, we couldn't do just one or the other.
Starting point is 01:55:46 You know, we had to try to make it balanced so that everyone gets an opportunity considering there's limited space, but we're working it out. We want to do this in February. We had to wait because of standard legal business stuff we have to fill out and paperwork and COVID made everything not happen.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Like you can't get paperwork done. It is ridiculous. it's starting to reopen so we're hoping soon we'll be able to do the live event so it's it's like legit i was like february it's like march we're gonna do the event and then it was like here's the paperwork you need to do it it's like okay well i don't have that can we get this done it's like well that the offices aren't open because of covid it's like oh okay okay. Well, that's lame. We'll get to it, though. We'll get to it. All right.
Starting point is 01:56:28 Mr. Full Metal Gats says, Hey, Tim and gang. Awesome show tonight. Can you let Joe know that there are Chinese military soldiers at Fort Jackson with NIPR accounts? NIPR accounts? What is that?
Starting point is 01:56:42 It's the Unclassified Government System. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm not sure why there would be Chinese soldiers there that's kind of crazy does that sound real like possible no i mean we don't do military exchanges with the chinese that i know of i mean we have countries that we're friendly with we'll bring over and they'll get access to some computer systems but i certainly hope it's not the chinese yeah i. I heard that they were in Canada or something. They were doing drills. I believe they have done drills with the Canadians.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Mostly just exchanges, ceremonial stuff. I don't think they were actually doing military maneuvers. All right. Let's see. It just jumped on me. I love when that happens. You get a big flood of super chats right away. Where are we at?
Starting point is 01:57:24 Here we go. Magnificent Devil go magnificent devil says hey tim big fan wanted to clear up something most mature crypto is decentralized not just bitcoin the dev project doesn't control the blockchain the miners or validators and proof of stake do but what i mean is like ethereum is on amazon web services say i need aw. Which means Amazon could be like, bye-bye Ethereum. Boom, gone. Right. All right, let's see. The ghost of Teddy Roosevelt says, bully for you,
Starting point is 01:57:51 Mr. Kent. Maybe it's time to bring back the Bull Moose party. Yeah, there you go. We got endorsed by the, or I got endorsed by the Bull Moose project. Oh, right.
Starting point is 01:58:00 That's cool. Yeah. Jay Bond says, moved to South Korea to pay off 110K, I'm sorry, 100K college debt. My wife married me
Starting point is 01:58:12 knowing the amount. Now we are debt-free with two kids and finally moving home. Awesome. There you go. Well done. Making it happen.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Cal Ratch says, stayed the weekend in San Francisco and the poop thing is definitely real. Oh, yeah. Man, that's crazy. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Just so many beautiful cities have just been absolutely destroyed. Yeah. San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, just, yeah. Dude, San Francisco is one of the worst places I've ever been to. Yeah, but it could be beautiful. It was in, like, the early 2000s. It was beautiful. I was there.
Starting point is 01:58:39 I did a few guest spots for Discovery. Yeah. So we did, like, some segments some segments on like nuclear weapons and stuff. And one day before I'm going in, I went to a taco, a Mexican place to get food. And I've got like a hoodie on my backpack with my computer in it. So I'm going to do work. And they completely ignored me. And so I'm just standing there like watching the servers walk past me.
Starting point is 01:58:59 And I'm like standing here. So finally, I'm like, OK. And I just walk up into the restaurant. I'm standing there. And a woman goes, do you need something? And I went, yeah, food. And she went, oh, oh, yeah, I just have, okay. And I just walk up into the restaurant. I'm standing there. And a woman goes, do you need something? And I went, yeah, food. And she went, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, just have a seat. So I'm like, did they think I was like a homeless guy? Yeah, sounds like it.
Starting point is 01:59:11 Probably. I mean, you know, I probably looked like a homeless guy. But wow, that's a crazy experience. I go to New York. You know, when I was working out in New York, I went to, I can't remember what the steakhouse is. It's in the Columbus Circle. It's like really expensive. And I'm wearing the same thing.
Starting point is 01:59:25 And they're like, right this way, sir. And they're like, they don't care. They're like, do you have money? By all means, come on in. They don't care. In San Francisco, they must not tolerate it. They just don't want to know. All right.
Starting point is 01:59:35 William Hornoff says, greetings, Tim. Greetings all. Tim, you often use the phrase, don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity. Well, it's don't attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence. And have to disagree. Stupidity implies a lack of choice,
Starting point is 01:59:49 ignorance. The left and those aligned actively choose to be malicious. Thoughts. So, Hanlon's razor is never attribute to malice
Starting point is 01:59:57 that which can be explained by incompetence. So, not necessarily stupidity, lack of ability, lack of, you know, function,
Starting point is 02:00:04 but, it's not always you know sometimes people are malicious so you're talking about antifa and people on the far left and all that stuff they're malicious yes yeah they're not all incompetent a lot of democrats are incompetent yes a lot of republicans are too to be oh yeah so all right colin sanders says hey joe intel pog here i always liked working with sf better than the rangers and the seals you guys can actually chill have a beer is that true that's true yeah can't get firm all right troy dingman says i wish my local government would have had a
Starting point is 02:00:40 flyover for the fallen today with a bunch of aircraft from different generations that would have been nice that sounds really cool actually yeah all right where are we at some people are uh kiabo bandit says joe biden is not my president hillary is and she was the greatest president we've ever had there you go i mean the timelines A dead ender. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's see. S. S. D. Kakarok says, just tuned in.
Starting point is 02:01:14 So didn't hear the details of this stream. Spent 2005 in IED Alley of West Baghdad in 07-08 near some green berets in the Sunni Triangle. Joe seems like a pretty solid dude. Much respect. Thank you. There you go. I was in those areas as well. Go 7 well go seven ish yeah well this is a really important question gg player says tim i'm trying to grow a beard but when i put my head on a pillow it feels so itchy any advice i'm i don't know i don't know you get used to it yeah i don't know i guess lay on your
Starting point is 02:01:40 back it's just needed yeah like put your head on the back of the pillow. Eat less salt. There you go. I think it gets softer if you don't eat a lot of salt. Hmm. Put a put put wrap. I was gonna make a joke.
Starting point is 02:01:55 I'm not gonna do it because people will take it seriously. I was gonna say take plastic wrapping. No. No. YouTube's gonna be like that was serious.
Starting point is 02:02:02 No, no, no. All right. let's see. Fiona Is My Bee, AusDem, Soldate, says, Mr. Kent, I am a Navy vet and Hood River native currently residing in Van Tucky and Bothell. I cannot wait to volunteer for your campaign. Bless you and yours.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Excellent, thank you. Right on. Looking forward to it. Very cool. Gigi Player then asked again about his itchy beard. Sorry, I don't know how to tell you, man. Coconut oil. All right, we asked again about his itchy beard. Sorry, I don't know how to tell you, man. Coconut oil. All right, we'll do a couple more here.
Starting point is 02:02:28 Hotdog400 says, maybe 10 years from now, your basic phone will be more powerful than the quantum computers today. 10 years from now? I'm not entirely convinced. I don't know where we're at with quantum computing, but it needs, like, super freezing temperatures, I think, to operate. But, you know, we'll see. Maybe technology advances.
Starting point is 02:02:45 All right, let's see. Oh, whoa, what's this? Skyler Tucker says, world's largest meat processor, JBS, just got hit with a cyber attack like colonial pipeline. Look into it, please. A meat processor, you say? What a strange thing.
Starting point is 02:02:57 So the Federal Reserve got nailed, then a pipeline, now a meat processor? Yeah. Well. All right, we'll do one more. We got, let's see. janiel says i lived in sf but moved to south bay there are needles everywhere everyone i know has stepped in poop and i've been chased down main street a few times with people high off whatever they were on lol
Starting point is 02:03:15 lol what a response yeah wow he's patient yeah all right my friends this has been a great memorial day with all you guys hanging out watching. So thanks for being here. You know a lot of people are probably chilling, but, hey, good for you. It's America. And just never forget the people who sacrificed so that you could have your long weekend and chill. So smash that Like button. Don't forget to subscribe to this channel. Did I say hit the Like button?
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Starting point is 02:03:51 We'll be back tomorrow. Is there anything you wanted to mention specifically of your campaign website or contributions? Yeah, people want to support us. They can go to joekentforcongress.com. They can read about all my stances on the issues there. Linktree and all my social media is on there as well. And if they can, I'd really appreciate a donation. So I'm up against the Republican establishment dollars and the Democrat establishment dollars.
Starting point is 02:04:11 So fighting for the America First agenda. So anything they can contribute, I'd really appreciate. I put up $200,000 of my own dollars into my campaign just to kind of put my money where my mouth is. So $5, $10, $15 will help me help take this country back. Best of luck. Thank you. You can also follow me at IanCrossland.net and at Ian Crossland across all social media. Thank you guys so much for coming.
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