Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #300 - Fauci Leaks Go Viral, PROVES He Lied, Rand Paul Was RIGHT w/Jack Posobiec

Episode Date: June 3, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join journalist and commentator Jack Posobiec to analyze what Fauci knew, Rand Paul's win over Dr. Fauci, Tom Cotton's retro-edited headlines by the Washington Post, journalists vs activists in the firing of the young AP reporter, the prosecutors who are not attempting to bring charges against a man supposedly involved in the January 6th rioting, and AOC's newest hypocrisy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You know, Rand Paul must be having a really good day. I can only imagine that when the news broke about Fauci's emails getting leaked, he started, you know, jumping up on his desk and then shuffle dancing, and then jumped back down to tweet, told you so. And that was just it. And I saw the tweet from Rand Paul, and he's like, told you so, fire Fauci. And I'm like, what told you so? What was told?

I don't know what the emails contain. Rand, tell me more. An email January 31st, 2020 to Anthony Fauci suggested that researchers believed at the time that COVID was engineered. It is only now, about a year and a half later, Fauci says he's not convinced it was a COVID was naturally occurring and lab leak theory is becoming more prominent. It's a very, very strange set of circumstances. And while it may be that the initial assessment was it looks engineered and then later on they changed their mind when you also learn that fauci was sending emails about gain of function research and then telling rand paul we don't do this you are incorrect and then yeah

and then uh so he was talking about he didn't understand the context and then he gets an email apparently from the guy from eco health saying thank you for shutting down this conspiracy theory just sounds a whole lot like he's hooking up his buddy who is being implicated in the research that may have led to this lab leak and cost a lot of lives so we're going to jump into this we got a bunch of other news too a disaster has been declared on the southern border of texas governor abbott says that joe biden's open borders policies are just causing drugs and gangs. And where's Joe Biden? What's he doing?

Making things worse, I guess. Well, we are being joined today by the Jack Posobiec. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you that I've heard about this chat going on that asking about my stance on cargo shorts. And I'm here to tell you folks that cargo shorts in the Postal Republic will get you sent straight to jail. Oh, yeah. When I'm Supreme Chancellor, cilantro, fennel, gone. Wait, cilantro? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Well, there's no cilantro. Believe it or not, jail. There's a problem with cancel culture. Okay. It never stops. I will lead the cilantro uprising. The cilantro brigades. Cilantro, fennel, caraway, anise, celery. I'm speaking my love language.

Celery is a jail sentence. No, cilantro is a garnish, though. It's not a meal. It's a garnish. Yeah, but they put it in every... It's like, no, don't put it on my stuff. I don't like it. It doesn't taste good.

You can ask for no cilantro. Like, I'm not a sour cream guy, but I just say no sour cream. Like, I'll go to a Mexican restaurant and they're like, oh, it's all pre-made. Oh. You know what I like? What do you go to pre-made places for, though, in the first place? I know. That's on you.

That's on you. You go to a place where they make it in front of you? Yeah. And I'm always like this. I'm always like, extra onions. Yes. Extra lemon juice. Oh, yeah.

And no cilantro. I want my cilantro. I'll pay extra. I don't even care. You can stuff it in a tube and then filter water through the tube. And even like fecal contaminated water. And it'll drip out clean, fresh water. And then just grow it in your backyard.

What place is where you're going to eat? I'm all over the place. Cilantro's out. But hold on. Hold on. I'll compromise. We'll ban cargo shorts if you agree to throw cilantro. I can live with the cilantro.

What is this? Partisan pose cilantro i can live what is this bipartisan pose yeah i can live without bipartisan sorry about that sweetheart in 50 years like somehow by some twist the timeline actually is you're in charge of the republicans i'm the democrats and we're like we agree and shake hands we're like yeah it's like it's like tip o'neill and reagan back in Like, yes, now let's go drink our fecal juice. Everyone's confused as to what this has to do with anything. Right, exactly. No, because we'll have solved everything else.

These will be the only two remaining issues that are outstanding. It's like an artistic choice. Yeah, I love it. All right, we got to – I think Ian is chilling. Oh, I am. Thank you, Tim. Yes, hello. Ian Crossland up in this house.

Good to be here. Hi, Jack. That's correct, yep. I'm very excited. Jack is here for our 300th episode. I'm not sure if this is momentous. My third appearance on the 300th episode. Wow.

That's fortuitous. I love it. It's absolutely fortuitous. You look like Leonidas. That's what I was thinking. I feel like Leonidas, yeah. The whole dying part. Kicking the messenger into the pit. Yeah, no, no. I'll do that all day long especially if he's wearing cargo shorts

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is there news today was there anything that came out today yes well it's new something a little bit is that making news the north east west and south north south and south there'll be news every day that's right fauci was warned that covet 19 may have been engineered emails show the new york post reports dr fauci was warned the coronavirus has possibly been engineered, emails show. The New York Post reports, Dr. Fauci was warned. The coronavirus has possibly been engineered and appeared to be taking reports about it seriously. At the same time, he was publicly downplaying the notion of the virus being created in a lab, according to his emails. Meanwhile, Fauci, America's top expert in infectious disease, also got a personal thank you for backing the natural origin theory from the head of a nonprofit.

They used a $3.4 million government grant to fund research at the Chinese lab suspected of creating the virus. On January 31st, 2020, more than two months before the World Health Organization characterized COVID as a pandemic, Fauci sent an email to U.S. virus researcher Christian Anderson and Sir Jeremy Farrar, who runs a global health charity in Britain. Fauci forwarded them a copy of a science magazine article titled Mining Coronavirus Genomes for Clues to the Outbreak's Origin. This just came out today. You may have seen it. If not, it is of interest to the current discussion, wrote Fauci, the longtime head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease. Anderson, who runs a viral genomics lab at Scripps Research in La Jolla, California,

wrote back, the problem is that our phylogenic analyses aren't able to answer whether the sequences are unusual at individual residues, except if they're completely off. The unusual features of the virus make up a really small portion of the genome, less than 1%. So one has to look really closely at the sequence to see that some of the features potentially look engineered. Anderson also noted that he and others, quote, all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory, but added, quote, there are still further analyses to be done. So those opinions could still change. Just two days later, on February 2nd, Farrar sent a brief email to Fauci and other U.S. health officials

in which he asked for a conference call later tonight or tomorrow to discuss their response to a pending announcement from the World Health Organization. Farrar then added, meanwhile, in a link to an article at the Zero Hedge website with the headline, quote, coronavirus contains HIV insertions, stoking fears over artificially created bioweapon. Fauci responded that email by forwarding the email chain to Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health, and asking, do you have a minute for a quick call?

The 3,200 plus pages of Fauci's emails posted on Tuesday by BuzzFeed, which they got through a request, also show that he and Collins corresponded in April 2020 about Fox News reporting on increasing confidence that the virus COVID-19 started in a Wuhan lab. In an April 16, 2020 email to Fauci and other US health officials, Collins sent a link to a Mediaite report about a discussion on Fox News' Hannity program. Collins' email bore the subject line, conspiracy gains momentum, but its entire contents were blacked out other than the link and his name at the end. Fauci responded to Collins' email, but whatever he wrote was also blacked out. Meanwhile, two days after Collins sent his email, Fauci received a message from Peter, how do you pronounce it, Daszak?

Daszak. Daszak, a zoologist and president of the EcoHealth Alliance. Quote, I just wanted to say a personal thank you on behalf of our staff and collaborators for publicly standing up and stating that the scientific evidence supports a natural origin for COVID-19 from a bat to human spillover, not a lab release from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. From my perspective, your comments are brave and coming from your trusted voice will help dispel the myths being spun around the virus's origins. The next day, Fauci wrote back, many thanks for your kind note.

Last year, the Wall Street Journal reported that EcoHealth Alliance used its NIH grant to study coronaviruses in Chinese bats and sent the Wuhan lab just about $600,000. The five-year grant was renewed for a total of $3.7 million in 2019, but it was canceled in April 2020 under President Trump on the grounds the research didn't align with the NIH's program goals and agency priorities. During April 2020, Fauci repeatedly made public statements suggesting the coronavirus was the result of an unusual human-animal interface in a Chinese wet market, that the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now totally consistent with a jump of a

species to animal to human. Okay, okay, I got to stop. I think the evidence is clear. Fauci knew there were suggestions from researchers that he had contacted that this was engineered. The guy he knows, the guy he was providing funding, says thanks for dispelling the myths. Where did Fauci come up with the wet market with the unusual bat to human transmission of this virus? They were literally doing bat coronavirus research thanks to the money that was sent to EcoHealth Alliance. I mean, to me, it sounds clear cut. Fauci,

did he make up the story about the wet market? Well, so the story of the wet market didn't start with Fauci. It starts with the CCP. This was the Chinese government's main line that they were pushing forward. They were the ones who were putting it out there. They were the ones that were talking about this wet market. They were spreading these videos. If you remember the bat soup, they actually had this influencer apologize for doing a bat soup, you know, sort of like, you know, TikTok video and starting this trend. And so this was all coming from this sphere of the Chinese government, right, which we probably should have questioned. And obviously, we did question very early on to say, why are we trusting the CCP when we know that the CCP denied that this

thing was going on? They denied human to human transmission until literally the point that they couldn't deny it anymore. They were locking up doctors. They were doing everything they could to hide this information from coming out. But then we just accept their narrative for how it got out. Hold on a second. So Fauci contacts virologists in Britain who say it looks engineered. Then he sees on the TV from CCP media, it's a wet market. And he goes, it's clearly the wet market. And then he goes on TV and says, well, you know, that's the wet market. There you go. Well, there's also an email. Do we trust that?

So there's also an email in there in these early days. This is where we're talking. Remember, January, February of 2020. So this is sort of that early time where we're all asking questions. And we all, of course, can see the proximity of the Wuhan Institute of Virology. And we're, you know, asking very, very rational questions, rational concerns of, hey, this is really close to a huge bio lab. What's what's going on with that? You know, what's going on with the bio lab across the street from the wet market? Can we can we see this thing? And especially for even if even

if someone I lived in China for two years, but even if someone doesn't know the geography of China that well, Wuhan is about a thousand miles away from Kunming, where these bats actually reside and where these main caves are that they study the coronaviruses. Because it's this one huge system of caves in Yan'an province where they found a lot of this, where, you know, miners have gotten sick and all the rest of it. So who's doing the most traveling between those caves and Wuhan? Well, of course, it would be the researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Neurology. Oh, come on, Jack. It was clearly the poor wet market, you know, salesmen who traveled by foot with buckets of bats for a thousand miles and back to sell at the Wuhan wet market.

Right, right. Or the diseased bat just flew from the caves all the way to Wuhan. Didn't get anyone sick in between the 1,000 miles that it traveled. Didn't stop off, you know, like when geese fly south and they stop in my lake. No, no, no.

It's not like that. No, they flew directly to that wet market. Why? Because it was deliberate. The bats were just like, yo. Bats attack. And then it just travels 1 travels in there, man. We got it.

We got to get, we got to strike back. Let's go to that. I think, you know, at the time we didn't have the information we have now. Look, look,

these are reasonable questions and it's, it's kind of silly. And that's why we're, we're making jokes about it because you look at the early days of it and Fauci's concerns. And you look at some of the concerns about these emails that are coming in specifically when he's talking about the WHO, they're talking about Tedros, who is the some of the concerns about these emails that are coming in specifically when he's talking about the who they're talking about tedros who is the head of the who and they want to get their talking points straight they want to get this public narrative this public

opinion push straightforward there's no questions about you know you'd expect that from the bureaucracy standpoint that if you're you know if this is the movie version of it, right, that the scientists go, you know, get me on the phone with Wuhan. What were you guys doing up there? What came? What was happening in that lab? Or, you know, even on the flip side of that, again, if you take their stated purposes for conducting these experiments as, hey, we're doing research into coronaviruses. A lot of them come out of China. So it makes sense to do the research there

because we want to get ahead of there being a pandemic. Well, wouldn't it then follow that you're calling Peter Doshak and you're calling your Chinese colleagues to say, hey, is this similar to anything you've seen? Do you have anything that could maybe give us a jump on creating some kind of treatment for this thing that you guys may have come across in the course of your decade plus long research there? Which was the purpose of the research. That was the stated purpose. That was the the purpose of the research. That was the stated purpose. That was stated purpose of the funding. That was the stated purpose of all these approvals through EcoHealth Alliance. You don't see any of that going on whatsoever. What do you see? These emails about talking points, the emails about narrative,

and then the emails from Peter Daszak. Thank you so much for dispelling these myths. To be fair, you know, we did a really good job. We know that Fauci was providing funding to EcoHealth Alliance, who were using that funding for gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab. So who would be better to choose to go and do the investigation other than the guy who runs EcoHealth Alliance? Clearly, he's the expert. We have investigated ourselves. And he went there and they found nothing wrong. And found that we did nothing wrong. Exactly.

See, he's the most qualified because he's literally doing, look, he's literally doing the research at the Wuhan lab. Why would you pick someone else? He can recognize it, can't he? He's the one who knows. He can walk in and say, see, we're not funding and doing gain-of-function research here. Nothing to see, you know? He's the president of EcoHealth Alliance. Is that this guy?

Yes. nothing to see you know this he's the president of eco health alliance is that this guy so he the guy who is getting paid by whoever fauci or the u.s government to do research on bat coronaviruses sent an email to fauci thanking him for dispelling the myth that it came from a research laboratory yeah yeah yeah but then it just came from across the street but then you have to fast forward too so it's it's nine months later when the who and switman is referring to when the who sends their team into the wuhan lot remember there's this big later when the WHO, and this is what Tim is referring to, when the WHO sends their team into the Wuhan lab. Remember, there's this big thing. Oh, the WHO team is going. WHO team is going.

Who was the leader of that team? Wow. Peter Daszak, the head of EcoHealth Alliance. And right. The same guy. And as I mentioned, he has the most experience. So obviously when the Lancet went to do their investigation, well, of course we've got to send Peter Daszak as well. He has the most to lose, so you should let him take control of the situation.

No, no, no. He's the expert. Like Ian, if I was going to investigate whether or not you were stealing cookies from the cookie jar and bringing them into your bedroom. I think you should let me do that investigation for you. I know my bedroom better than anyone. You would know if you were eating the cookies. You know your schedule. You know your pattern of life. You know your movements. I can't lie to myself.

Dude, they actually let the fox in the hen house. Twice. That's literally what they did. And then what's funny is, so did Trump. Fauci's the guy who approved the funding and lets this. It's absolutely remarkable. Well, not only that, and this is, you know, I know I'm supposed to be like Mr. Pro-Trump guy, but it actually is under Obama that gain of function is shut down, right? They put a ban on gain of function through NIH. And it's in the early days

of the Trump administration that now keep in mind that guys at the NIH, you know, this is a fiefdom, right? So Collins and so people don't understand that Collins is essentially Fauci's boss, right? You know, Fauci is actually not the head of the entire NIH. That's Collins. So Collins and Fauci's boss, right? You know, Fauci's actually not the head of the entire NIH. That's Collins. So Collins and Fauci in the early days of Trump, you know, kind of during that transition period, they get this gain of function pause lifted. They get the ban lifted. And this is where, and you can see in some of these emails, they're talking about the P3 framework. Well, what's the P3 framework? This is supposed to be that if there's anything that email from Fauci where he's attaching one of the studies. It wasn't your article there, but it's another email that's out

where the study is talking about gain of function and Fauci sending it to one of his assistants saying, Hey, was, was this one of the things that we, that we funded? And then he responds and he responds and says, well, I don't think so because I don't see anything in the P3 database. So it doesn't look like we approved it because they didn't. It was approved through Peter Doshak and it was approved through EcoHealth Alliance. And so it didn't go through the review process because it wasn't done directly by NIH. And this, again, you know, having spent time working in the federal government, having spent time working in that bureaucracy, you understand these guys are bureaucrats. Keep in mind, Anthony Fauci is our number one paid, highest paid federal employee.

You don't get to that point if you are not good at the game, if you are not good at civil service. So do I think he's this Machiavellian string puller puppet master behind the scenes? No. I do think he wants to be seen as this sort of like Eminence Grease. I have to credit to Raheem Kassam for giving me that one. But sort of like the power behind the throne I have to, you know, credit to Rahim Kassam for giving me that one, but sort of like, you know, the power behind the throne, that he wants to be seen as that guy. But I think at the end of the day, he's an institutionalist,

and he wants to protect the institution. Let's talk about the politics here now. So we got the story from the Courier-Journal. Senator Rand Paul claims vindication fundraisers off of new Anthony Fauci emails. Rand Paul questioned Fauci and said, what did he ask him? Like, do you support the gate? Like, do you still support? He said, does, were you conducting gain of function research?

I thought he, I thought he said like, do you still support? Right. And then Fauci is like, that is Senator. That is incorrect. Entirely. Completely. Completely incorrect. No gain of function research was done.

That's not true. Well, and that whole interchange is amazing because if you go back and watch it, he denies that it ever took place. He denies any of this funding in Wuhan. So Rand Paul pushes him a little bit more on it, and then he starts defending why they funded experiments in Wuhan

in the same exchange. To be fair, I think it's self-evident that he was lying. And I wonder if when Dashek, the EcoHealth Alliance guy, is talking to him on the phone or whatever the communications they were having outside of email, he's like, this is really bad that we're, you know, our research may have caused this. We need to get in control of this. So Fauci goes on TV and what dispels the myth, they say. Right, and you look at how early, right?

You look at how early those emails are. You look at how early that conversation is. Was it February or March? This is like the very start and we're told dismiss, not a thing. Don't worry about it. Washington Post is running headlines. Debunk, debunk, debunk.

Why is debunk? Because Fauci said so. So I'll say, you know, because I take i take the the more hyperbolic stance of saying it proves fauci lied these emails because in my opinion i think fauci's playing semantics yes i think i think he he's playing semantics to try and get around the fact that he he lied to ran paul that under oath many people are saying it was perjury and when he dismissed gain-of-function research, even though the people he sent the article to were like, oh, yeah, it looks engineered.

So he's lying. I think on top of this, Fauci was probably sweating bullets. You hear news about this COVID thing, and he's probably going like, who did we fund? And then he calls EcoHealth Alliance, and he's like, what did you guys do? Okay, you've got to find that email from his assistant then because that's what they say, that do we have some link, some distance link. That's the phraseology they use, distant link to this work abroad. So it's like they do everything they can to not use the word Wuhan or Wuhan Institute of Virology. Work abroad. But it seems like they know that there is an issue going on here.

And by the way, this whole thing, I should mention this right you know talking about emails and foia this is why hillary had set up that server right because she knew that foio get you foil get you if you're a little loose loosey-goosey with that stuff and apparently that's what was going on here in my opinion that email shows it fauci was probably you know pulling his collar going like oh man if this was one of our programs and how many people died? Millions. Was it a three something million? Three and a half.

Three and a half million. Oh yeah. And that's because he funded this research. Now you're not going to blame him directly because he provided funding to an organization who provided funding to a Wuhan lab, but it's still, he's in that chain. This is the, you know, the classic Michael Crichton, um, you know, fromology of it where, you know, you, you, you only focused – I'm going to butcher the line, but you only focused on what you could do and you never thought about whether or not you should. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So Fauci – and he has that op-ed now that's coming out. I think it's from 2012 where he was asked about the dangers. Oh, yeah. They pulled it out. Right. The dangers of gain-of-function research. And what did he say? He said even if it does escape the lab and cause some kind of – It's worth the risk. It's worth the risk. It's about the dangers. Oh, yeah, they pulled it out, right. The dangers of gain-of-function research. And what did he say?

He said, even if it does escape the lab and cause some kind of... It's worth the risk. It's worth the risk. It's worth the risk. And so this is what gets me back to my initial statement, though. My thesis is, where are these emails? And it's possible that this was on a different, you know, okay, those were, you know, maybe that was classified.

Maybe that was done on a higher server because of communication. There's all sorts of reasons that something would would be classified right and that it wouldn't show up in foia um i was never nih so i don't know whether or not they operate under a classified system but i understand that if you know obviously something is at the secret level or ts level it's not going to be coming out in the foia that being said um he easily could have come out and said yeah we were looking into this and And oh, by the way, here are the top 10 things we found in Wuhan that are similar to this. This is just like that study that, you know, Shijong Li, the bat woman, and she came up with this study from a year ago.

These spike proteins, that's exactly what we looked at. And here's, you know, here's this plan on the shelf. See, the idea behind all of this, or at least sort of the, you know, the raise on debt was that there would be an on the shelf plan or game plan for, OK, we've this is the one that's crossed over to the human population. This is the coronavirus that made it. It was this variant. So we've studied it. We have an understanding of how it works. These are the best things to use against it. Right.

That was the entire point. Where is that work? Where is any of that? After a decade? What were they doing? What did they what did they ultimately develop? And it seems to be a whole lot of nothing. And it comes up in ventilators.

And remember, the ventilators are the big thing. And then Matt, do masks work? Do they not work? He tells someone they don't work. Then he comes out saying that, well, we should anyway, because of the percentages in terms of the population and so you're you're looking at this going well wait you know just just based on what you're saying you know the whole point of funding wuhan the 2012 op-ed was that we would have some you know early warning system in place i wasn't i put the article so it

was a it was a 2011 article i believe the new The New York Post reports Fauci once argued for risky viral experiments, even if they can lead to a pandemic. And now the article from Washington Post, it's actually, you search for Google and it pops up because so many people are clicking on it. But I want to make one point I've made a couple times in the past couple of weeks. Initially, Fauci said don't wear masks. And he does this interview on 60 Minutes, came out in March, and he was like, masks are for people who are infected to stop them from infecting others. Right now, people should not be wearing masks. It might stop a droplet, but, you know, we don't, you shouldn't be walking around.

And then in the email that everyone's sharing, it's from February, he says basically the same thing to someone who asked for advice. Here's the problem with this. Fauci comes out in July and says, I said that because we knew our medical professionals needed the PPE because they're the ones who have to deal with sick people. But Fauci said, masks don't protect you from sick people. So why would the medical professionals need it? They're not going to get the sick person sick, and it's not going to prevent them from getting sick. But medical professionals still need them, I guess, in general. Okay,

fine. That's fair. But if people... It's like, why does the x-ray technician stand behind the thing? Because they're the ones there all day. Right. So you have doctors with the masks because they're treating the sick people. Did Fauci not consider that if people wore masks, they wouldn't spread the virus and then the doctors wouldn't need as many masks because it wouldn't be working long hours with sick people you see you see the problem here is either fauci's a real moron because he doesn't understand cause and effect we'll tell everybody not to wear masks because we and he says on 60 minutes the mask will stop an infected person from infecting others then he tells everyone don't wear the masks because the

doctors need them to treat you when you get sick because no one was wearing masks. Meanwhile, the spread is continuing throughout the population, which means that a higher percentage of doctors, of course, is going to need them. So it is this sort of interesting thing where you get into,

and Thomas Sowell writes about this, where there are certain people who it seems that when they think about problems, they take out that human element, right? That element of human nature, that element of it is you could get into a whole like liberal conservative kind of thing about this where, you know, look, I, I would love to live in this world where it's it's just it's utopia, and everybody shares things, but human nature is real. And you can't get away from that. And you know, this genius is why fauci commands what like four hundred and thirty thousand dollars a year from the federal government it it more than

more than the president more than the president yeah that's certainly more than the last incredible yeah well trump was giving away a salary but uh the president gets four hundred thousand i actually made more than the last president there you go like everyone were the last president because he was getting what was it giving us all a dollar i think i think he legally had to yeah like do one he would donate and then he would still donate that dollar yeah yeah so uh for all of this for all of this genius fauci gets all that money so i saw you tweet you said you said that they're uh actively planning a an exit for the guy yeah so i so I got a message late last night, and of course I was up watching Batman cartoons.

Of course. Which Batman cartoon? Actually, Batman vs. Robin, so I'm getting into the old standalone movie series that came out, I guess, from the 2015 era. Now that I've built the suspense up, let's go back to fiction. I know, right?

Yeah, so Batman v. Robin was actually really good i like totally got sucked in i hadn't watched it and then it was on my plaque so i was like i'll check this out and it's like really and my kid didn't like it because it's like it's like much more adult everyone's on the edge of their seats right now going just i know what's going on super viral so um but but basically they said look because the emails came out from buzzfeed right they can't put it in that sort of bucket of oh that's conservative media right it came out from buzzfeed then washington post apparently had a similar foia so they came out as well and so it had to be something that they responded to and one of the first thing now, obviously, they're talking about multiple angles on this, but they're saying, you know what?

Maybe since this thing is winding down, we can look at a potential exit strategy. He's got a book for the good doctor. Does he have a book, though? Does he? Because so we saw that Fauci essentially this announcement came out about a Fauci book. But then I went on Amazon later this afternoon and the listing was gone, totally gone. Well, people were saying, you know, is he profiting from the pandemic?

This seems unseemly. They were making comparisons to Andrew Cuomo. So it's like, you know, it's like woke, downplay the virus, you know, broke, downplay the virus, woke, fund Wuhan, bespoke, put the actual, you know, infected patients in the nursing home. So that's Cuomo. He's easy to be next level.

So I don't know if it's that. I don't know. It could also be a legal thing, right? He's still a federal employee. But it does definitely seem like there's something going on and that his tenure may be coming to an early close. Did you see how BuzzFeed framed the emails? How Fauci was trying to keep things together at a time of chaos?

My favorite is CNN. It's a complete hagiography. We're not going to discuss anything that's actually in the emails, but you know the fact that he was able to respond to so many emails while he was so busy. There he is, Dr there he is dr fauci exhausted

late into the night responding to email after email honesty just just a wonderful wonderful man for this frank honesty and then i'm like why didn't they frame it like the new york posted like early emails suggest fauci knew the potential for lab leak, COVID being engineered? Because it feels like CNN is sort of the last legacy media outlet that is really on this sort of Fauci train that we know not only, you know, not only because it's like this is a government employee, right? He's a bureaucrat. He's a leader. We should be skeptical of all, right, government employees and government officials. But we don't need to hold them up as some sort of paragon of wisdom and the Oracle at Delphi or something like this.

He's a government guy. But CNN is still on that train. They're still trying to sell the Fauci merch. They're still trying to do all this. Even BuzzFeed has turned. I'm thinking to myself, why would they publish any emails at all? Because many of them make them look bad. And then try and frame the story as a positive not to mention the implications of mark zuckerberg so zuckerberg's emails are interesting and i you know and this is kind of from a lot of the peter daszak stuff was actually kind of out

there already so me looking at it was like well you know we kind of knew this but it is nice to have that confirmation because again it becomes one of those well, you know, we kind of knew this, but it is nice to have that confirmation because, again, it becomes one of those things. And, you know, it's one of the journalistic game of, you know, it's not what you know, but it's what you can prove in court. So the fact that you have the emails now where they are discussing gain of function, huge, huge, monumental. Right. And just in terms of newsworthiness. But in terms of the overall story, it just kind of fills in those gaps that we basically all suspected to begin with but the zuckerberg stuff is super interesting to me because when you when you look at the whole situation of not just zuckerberg and fauci right but you look at zuckerberg from his perch throughout 2020 right and so there he is talking to fauci in the beginning of 2020 hey how can we help how can

i i do think he probably meant that coming from a good place. I do want, like he does want to help. So he goes to Fauci and Fauci is telling him, oh, we need the social distancing. And then eventually it becomes the lockdowns and Facebook is pushing those. And then later on when the lockdowns are coming, say, oh, we're locked down.

How are we going to have an election? And who is it that comes in? And so many people have reported on this, that it's these foundations that are then set up and funded by Zuckerberg Chan to help with the election in many of these cities and many of these typically trending blue areas. Also, Zuckerberg. And it's kind of one of those things where you really look back and we say, do we as a society want any one person? Right. William Randolph Hearst is a great example and a one unelected person to have that level of influence in our country now especially with hearst it's pretty obvious what he did with to marijuana and his tree paper mill industry i don't know if you're much familiar with

hearst but he's like a paper magnet and own all these newspapers decided he didn't like the competition of people growing hemp and making like parchment out of hemp so he started printing all this propaganda about why hemp was so dangerous and driving people insane and use this propaganda paper to and zuckerberg is doing the modern version of this where you go on facebook and you say these opinions aren't allowed these opinions are and then you hire and to bring it full circle what were those opinions a year ago oh you Oh, you couldn't talk about lab leak. You couldn't talk about lab leak. Yeah. I mean, there's still a bunch of stuff you can't say.

I don't even know. I'm sitting here waiting. YouTube will eventually ban us, I guess. Steven Crowder was talking about CDC numbers, and YouTube gave him a strike. I hadn't heard that, really. Yeah, Steven Crowder's been off YouTube for two weeks. Seriously? Because they were talking about CDC guidelines.

No, no, no. I think that was the first one. Okay. They had a warning before. He got a strike. Then he got a warning. Then he got a strike over the CDC. And then the second strike, I think, was because they were saying that the police were justified

in the shooting of Micaiah Bryant. And YouTube was like, you were celebrating it. So then they had taken off. But the first strike, when he mentioned that he was talking about CDC guidelines, and he said said some specifics i don't i don't want to put words in his mouth but he was basically just saying like here's what cdc says here's what we think youtube gave him a strike for it and so to your point this this is the problem right this is the problem with allowing these social media platforms to be arbiters of truth because they become arbiters of discussion and at the same time going back to the foias now that we see the FOIAs, now that we see the Fauci leaks, now that we see the emails in there, he's having the exact same discussions internally that people were trying to have on social media.

Zero Hedge, of course, was sort of the canary in the coal mine of this because they're the one of one of the very first places that was publicly talking about the Wuhan lab. They were zapped permabanned on Twitter for this. Now, they were reinstated. But when that first came out, that sent a – people don't talk about the repercussions. Oh, that was just zero hedge. No, no, no. What were the repercussions of that? What was the secondary and tertiary effects?

Everyone was basically told, the message was sent, this topic is verboten. You are not speaking about this. This is like talking – this week is the Tiananmen Square anniversary of the massacre, June 4th. So it's like talking about Tiananmen Square in China, right? If this is done, you will be disappeared. That's the message it sent to everybody. That's the freakiest thing about cancel culture is not only is it top-down authoritarian, you're banned, but it's that people become afraid of even mentioning it. So it's like the grassroots effect of cancel, you know, just like canceling yourself before you even begin. Well, if you talk to people who, who are

from the Soviet Union, my wife is from the Soviet Union, she was born there. You, you realize that because you don't know where the rules are, you don't know where the fault lines are. You don't know where they're like the ideological landmines are, you know, am I supposed to like this person or hate this person, that kind of stuff. The only way to really be safe is to not have opinions, right. Is to not question anything, not have opinions on things. It's to shut down in a very internalized way. So the, the overall, you know, the final end state of cancel culture is that you're canceling your own mind. You're canceling your own opinions. You're canceling your individuality. Um, and that's, and it's internal.

The censor is actually in. You don't need the Ministry of Truth because that's just in your head every day. That really disturbs me because then they're removing themselves. It doesn't have to be the government. It doesn't have to be Facebook. It doesn't have to be Twitter. I'm not saying Tanya. By the way, I'm not saying Tanya is like that.

Believe me. She's been to America a lot. She makes her opinions known. She can speak her mind. She speaks her mind quite often. tanya's like that you know right yeah she's been america long enough to uh she she she makes she makes her opinions known and she speaks her mind quite often remember that photo from uh uh he was a soviet union and there's like stalin he's on a boat there's a guy next to him but then like all of a sudden there's another photo and there's like no guy next to him what was that called they have a name for that or a word for what they were doing with history i mean so air airbrushing you know back in the day call it yeah airbr with history? I mean, so airbrushing. Back in the day?

Yeah, airbrushing. Why do they call it airbrushing back in the day? One thing, it reminds me of something I heard from a North Korean defector once who was talking about this situation. And he said, you know, and it's not as nice as the way Stolzhenitsyn would put it, but, you know, the defector said, look, we know that they're lying about the United States. We know that they're lying about the united states we know that they're lying about the western world like we know that you're not just killing each other all the time and it's like race war and racial strife constantly we know it's not like that right and and this chaotic situation but the problem is because of the censorship we don't know what the truth is you know so we don't know what it actually is like so because we have no we have nothing to verify at all and we have nothing to compare it to let's talk about how

scary things can really get you got the story from the hill washington post issues correction on 2020 report on tom cotton lab leak theory now that headline from the hill is irresponsible in my opinion because they did not issue a correction they issued issued what's called a stealth edit, which I'm sure many may be familiar with, but let me show you this tweet from Greg Price. Greg is, he doesn't have a bio, but he's verified on Twitter. That means everything. No, Greg's a daily caller.

Daily caller, there you go. Yeah, he's great. He's a good guy. He tweets, democracy dies in stealth edits on 15-month-old headlines. The first image, the Washington Post says, Tom Cotton keeps repeating a coronavirus conspiracy theory that was already debunked. And now it

reads, Tom Cotton keeps repeating a coronavirus fringe theory that scientists have disputed. So what happens is, right now it's happening across the board on tons. He's been upgraded from debunked to fringe. That's right. Or from conspiracy to fringe and debunked to fringe. That's right. That is a promotion. Or from conspiracy to fringe and debunked to disputed by scientists.

Right, right. It's not the only outlet doing this. Congratulations, Senator Carney. These news outlets are literally rewriting history. They are. Think about what it used to be like in the past. A hundred years ago. Oh, this is Winston Smith.

What is? This is the plot of 1984. There you go. That's his job, right? Right. In the beginning, he's the guy who edits old newspapers. But in reality, 100 years ago, a newspaper would come out and it would say, you know, Jack Posobiec does backflip.

And you'd be like, there it is. It's reported. And there's a photograph of Jack doing this amazing backflip. You should see my backflip. It's fantastic. It's the best. Nowadays, there will be an article on, you know, Washington Post's website, and it'll show the backflip. And then a month later, without anyone noticing, the article will be different.

And it'll say, Jack Posobiec falls doing backflip. And the photo is still there, but it looks a little different. It's a different photo where it's gone all together. See, back in the day, a hard copy wouldn't be changed. They would have to issue a correction later on if they made a mistake in the next paper. Today, they don't even issue corrections. They just change the articles. Now here's where it gets crazy. Wikipedia, supposed to be this great encyclopedia of the modern era, right? How many articles on Wikipedia use that Washington Post story that says debunked conspiracy? The story is different now. Do we go and delete

all those encyclopedia entries that are now incorrect? This is a huge problem with how we are collecting and disseminating information in today's era. News organizations can just change what they said a year and a half later, and then our encyclopedias don't make sense anymore. Because if someone were now to write an article related to covid they could use this article the same link to make a different point they could say it you know it was a fringe theory scientists dispute it well as another article says it's a debunked conspiracy theory so these inconsistencies will start popping up the more and more they do this and to to toback on what you're saying, let's say you've been living under a rock, right?

For the longest time, you're just someone who's like total normie, not interested in any – for whatever reason, you're not interested in COVID-19. But you want to learn about it now. You say, what's the slab leak theory people are talking about? I want to dig into it a little more. And they say, oh, Cotton brought it up and it was disputed back then. But that's not true, right? So if The Washington Post wanted to tell the truth, they could have said, yes, it was considered a conspiracy theory when it was first talked about. However, over time, it gained traction. And here's why it gained traction.

And here's the actual story of it. But this is the problem because they don't set themselves up as – I mean, think about it. You don't have to have a position on anything anymore, right? Because your position is we are the truth. And so if we are truth, then whatever truth is can become a moving target. Instead of it being what the truth is, we will report. What they're saying now is what we report is the truth. Is the truth.

Right, exactly. So it doesn't matter what really happened. It just matters what they decide to put on paper. And that's a problem. That's a huge problem. It has been that way to an extent for a long time. But now stealth editing has become so widespread. And when it comes to very serious historical moments like this, this is actually really scary.

You know why? If we're not collecting information in any other capacity, I mean, I suppose we have archives. We have, you know, Arch we have archives. We have, you know, archive that is we have the way back machine. What happens in 50 years, in 100 years? And they're like, what happened with COVID? And they look back at all the articles and it says lab leak was confirmed very early on. Tom Cotton. So right now it says Tom Cotton pushes fringe theory. Great. In a year, I'll say Tom Cotton pushes proven theory. They're going to go back and rewrite history. We knew the whole time Tom was right. So what happens in 100 years?

History will be dramatically different. We witness it. We witness the media lying, but future generations are going to look back at the archives and they'll be like, they were always right. See, Washington Post wrote Tom Cotton is correct about lab leak theory. That's the headline says no. And they rewrite the story. Why change it? Why not just put, like, you know, The Guardian does this. I think it appears as this article is three years old. Right.

Yeah. I actually like that. Even though I don't like The Guardian. Right. I agree. But I actually like that they put that up because even if, it's one of the things where, you know, someone will do this on Twitter to get retweets sometimes where they'll post like an old old article but they'll make it seem as if it's breaking i hate and it's something yeah you know what i'm talking about and then it starts getting shared a lot well and i want i don't know if guardian was thinking about this but and the sort of the social media interplay where people

only read headlines anymore um because that's what's happening more and more is that when you do click it the first time that it'll show hey just so you know big blinking letters this thing is several years old this information could be out of date and by the way that's okay yeah because things change in life right you know stories have a beginning middle and end sometimes they keep going sometimes you get the mcu and there is no story all right oh um we got jokes folks we got jokes and um or you get the simpsons where it just kind of like trails off into like the oblivion but you know it it allows you to sort of understand this and this is a plot in actually a lot of movies where you're you're going through the microfiche and you're understanding oh so this this happened here and then this happened

and then you're able to weave the narrative together well if you don't have that then how do you figure out anything? What I really love about this media phenomenon is that there are a lot of organizations that will do an aggregation of, say, the AP or Reuters. And so it'll just say, like, Yahoo News, and then it'll say New York Post. I find this all the time because Yahoo News will pick up a lot of stories. Yeah, Yahoo News is really weird like that because they have some some that are internal, but a lot that are from somewhere else. And it'll just say New York Post. So what's funny is the New York Post will put out a story and then issue a correction.

And Yahoo News will run the uncorrected, the false version. And they both simultaneously exist as certifiable, credible organizations for Wikipedia's editors and NewsGuard certified. So you can literally just pick which narrative works best for you, I suppose. What happens then? Choose your own reality. Well, as we know, people choose news, which confirms their bias.

Yep. So the conservatives will find the corrected piece and go, oh, right there, and they'll post it on Facebook. And the Democrat liberals and the leftists will be like, oh, right there, the Yahoo version, they'll post it. And now you have two versions of the same story i'll tell you what though man

it really does feel like uh there was an article written in am great american greatness by um man i'm forgetting the guy's name but uh he writes that the democrats have already seceded from the union talking about this the crazy things they're doing they don't believe in the history of this country they don't believe in the rule of law they. They don't believe in the rule of law. They've intervened in the Chauvin trial demanding violence. Clearly, they're not working in the same capacity as we are. And I look at that and I'm like – By the way, you see Chauvin, he said, I want a new trial, number one.

But number two, I should only get probation because the system is completely broken. Yep. Well, so this is interesting. I remember the Sondland hearing, probably the most important example of what's happened to this country. I was, I can't remember where the image is from, but there's, I think it was at the gym and there's two TVs side by side. There's Fox News and there's like ABC.

This is the first impeachment. This was Ukraine gate. Yeah. So, well, This is the first impeachment. This was Ukrainegate. Yeah. So that was the first impeachment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One that we don't even talk about anymore. Sondland said, Donald Trump told me no quid pro quo. Right.

But I kind of felt like there was one. So Fox News, the chyron says, Sondland, quote, Trump said no quid pro quo. Right. On the TV to the left of it, Sondland confirms quid pro quo. How can we function as a country when people are like Fox News is lying? It's fake news. I'm like, but they quoted the guy. They quoted Sondland what he was saying.

And then they're like, but ABC News, they get to the truth. And then conservatives look at it and they're like, that's a quote. If you can take one sentence and turn it into two completely opposite news stories and it results in people at each other's throats, mass conflict in the streets, riots. I don't see how we come back from that. Well, and the problem is and it's something that, you know, you've talked about a ton, but I think we've all experienced it where so many of these outlets have gotten away from. Hey, we're not going to be arbiters of truth. We're going to be arbiters of narrative because we're chasing an audience. We're chasing clicks.

Have you seen the Project Veritas deposition of Lauren Windsor? No, I haven't seen that. So I don't know the full context. It's just one of the clips I saw from James O'Keefe. They put out talking about suing the New York Times and all that. And they asked this woman, and I may be getting this wrong, so just double check and go watch the video, but they said something like- James will sue us all if we get it wrong.

No, they won't. But the lawyer asks this woman, why didn't you include this video in what you were producing? And she just shrugs and goes, because it wasn't necessary for the narrative we were trying to produce. There it is. And I hear that, and I'm like, the narrative you are trying to produce. That's crazy. Well, you talk to – you can figure this out if you go to any journalism school and talk to any student there. We should get like Fleckus or somebody or Campus Reform to do one of these sort of man-on-the-street interviews with journalism school students

and the people studying that major, if they have any, if they go back to campus learning, and ask the question then again of, why are you going to journalism school? Why do you want to be a journalist? The answer, I guarantee you, 90%, because I want to change the world.

Because I want to change the world because I want the world to be a better place. I want this. I want that for the world. I want that power of journalism to get me there. Okay, great. But that's not journalism. No, that's activism.

That's not journalism at all. It's like you saw that woman from the AP who got fired. Right. The pro-Palestinian woman. Oh, yeah. So this woman gets hired by the AP. Then she starts complaining. There's a right-wing smear campaign against her.

Not just pro-Palestinian, by the way. I mean, she was like the pro-Hamas in some cases. Like anti-Israel. Yeah, very anti-Israel. But for me even, right? I'm not going to even play the political argument. I'm going to tell you why she should have been fired, period. So whether or not you want to get into her politics

or anything like that, there's one simple fact. She gets hired by the Associated Press. There's a bunch of people complaining. She's pro-Palestine. She's anti-Israel. And she argues these were past tweets. And the left says they're old tweets. It shouldn't matter.

I said, why does she want to be a journalist when she is an advocate for one side of a conflict? What was the point of her trying to get that job? The AP was right to fire her. And they should have never hired her. Someone comes to me and says, hey, I'd like to report on the southern border crisis. I'd be like, I'm down. We could use some reporting.

And then I see in their Twitter, it's all just vitriol about Trump and kids in cages. I'm going to be like, I don't think you're actually going to report on this. If I want to hire an activist to do advocacy, I will. I want to see a report from someone who's dry and says, I spoke with the president's administration. Tom Homan said X, Y, and Z, though the activist organization say A, B, and C. I'll be like, okay, that's reporting. Instead, what's happening is activists are trying to get jobs at news organizations.

They've succeeded greatly. And now that she got fired because she's an activist and the AP said she tweeted after the fact, I looked at her. I looked at her current tweets. Yeah, they're very, she's retweeting people who are very pro Palestine. Like how can anyone expect to get legitimate news from someone who was advocating for an outcome in the conflict? She's going to tell you bad information. But the activists are claiming it's free speech under attack. And it's a right we can smear campaign because they are subversive and trying to inject activists into media because

they know if you control the narrative, you control what people have access to. If they don't know the truth, they can't fathom the truth. If the only thing they hear is your propaganda, they will side with you. They've been doing it for a long time and it's working. It was one of the times they failed and they only failed. Now, I don't even think they failed because of Ben Shapiro. They're like, it's Ben Shapiro's fault. He was smearing this journalist. Like, oh, well, I mean, the AP said it was unanimous. They looked at her tweets and said, no, you can't work here. You can't do that.

And the real question is, of course, you know, why did that not come up in the review process and the hiring? Why were you going to hire that person and not say, hey, what did they put on social media? We're going to talk about a specific issue. We want you to report on this. What's your past work on that? You know, let's see your reel.

You know, if I'm getting someone in terms of videos, like, hey, let me see your reel. Let me see your sizzle reel, right? What do you got? What do you got for me? Oh, okay. So you're completely in the tank for this one side. Got it. Think about how, in my opinion, you'd have to be really dumb to even consider doing this.

Let's say this person who is anti-Israel, pro-Palestine, says, I want to be a journalist, and I'm going to go, and I'm going to report from this place. It's like, what do you think is going to happen if some of these very strong results of the other side get wind of your reporting. You got, you got, AP says, we'd like you to go and interview this Zionist extremist, really out there guy, street, you know, group of people. They're going through the streets and they're, they're angry and crazy. And then this journalist is going to show up and they're going to be like, we looked at your, we looked at your Twitter history. You think that you're going to engage in, in, in, in, in propagandizing for one side of a conflict and be able to go and interview the other side?

They're going to be like, you're clearly not my friend. First of all, you can't get the interview. So even if it was just activism, but let alone the fact that you might actually be perceived as a belligerent, like actually coming to do them harm. Now, that's mostly true of Antifa and what we've seen in New York and stuff. It's typically not the Israeli groups, the pro-Israel groups that are going around attacking people. So I'll make sure that's clear. But you can't expect to do an interview at all. If a journalist shows up and tries to interview someone on the right.

You know, and shameless book plug, but like I just did the Antifa book. It just came out. It's a book dot com. But we get into this where Julio Rojas from Town Hall, where he would go and he's at these events and just trying to be there as media. And he's like, I want to just interview people who are part of Antifa, who are trying to, you know, I did this myself in 2017. Andy Ngo is going out there. You know, I hope everything's OK with Andy right now. Of course, know that, you know, he's got with andy right now of course know that you know he's got a situation but was that him uh i don't know for sure if that was him and but hasn't tweeted since

we've reportedly there's a situation put it that way just regardless hope he's safe um you know i pray for the guy and but you know that these these antifa groups they will get if they see you filming regardless of who you are, unless they know, right? This is something that came up when I was in Chaz. And if they don't recognize you and they know you by sight, or they've kind of seen you around the scene before, they have some kind of an idea of you, or most likely they've been following you on social media and so you're sort of an approved documenter, They will get in your face. They will put up umbrellas. They will attack you. They will assault you. They will milkshake you. They will, you know, try to push you down concrete steps like they did to me at the Lincoln

statue last year. So if you are identified as someone who is seen as a conservative or even someone who's just not on our team, right, you are pushed out. You are not allowed to do anything with this. And this is actually, they handed, so with Julio and his situation, this is in DC, I believe, they actually handed him a list of, if you are going to cover us, you have to follow all of these rules.

You can't film something where someone's committing a crime. You can't film anyone's faces if their mask comes off. You can't film if anyone has their phone out, any of these different things that could possibly identify them, right? And they are setting these. And so the question then becomes, if you are someone who considers yourself a journalist and you're going in and embedding or at least getting close to these events,

are you following those rules? And if you're doing so, then are you taking their side? Of course. You're working for them. You're licking their feet. I'll tell you a story. I went to Boston, and there was a right-wing, pro-right-wing thing. I think it was like 2018. And there was a left-wing counter Antifa group shows up. The first thing I have to point out, what were the right-wing individuals holding? They were all holding some kind of object. They were holding shields. What were the Antifa people holding?

What do you think? Two-by-fours. Clubs, crowbars, bats, two-by-fours. They were holding shields. What were the Antifa people holding? What do you think? Two by fours. Clubs, crowbars, bats, two by fours. And so I'm like, clearly someone's come here to fight and beat people. And clearly someone's here seeking to defend themselves. But something interesting happened. There was an individual who looked like a lefty, but was a journalist taking pictures of both sides. But was wearing some LGBT pride stuff.

Right. And they went over to take photos of the right-wing group. Some guy, a couple guys on the right, started screaming, you know, F-U, Antifa. And the three percenters who were there immediately ran up and stopped the right-wing guys and told them to shut up, back off, and let them take photos. Really? Yeah. There were several periods where the right were trying to get rowdy

and the 3%ers immediately told them to back off and were screaming at them. So the 3%er guys that were there were just wearing like, they didn't have any weapons. They were wearing like some kind of light tactical gear but didn't really have much with them. And they were telling people on the right to chill out, back up, get away. So when someone from the left would come over, they would immediately turn around and tell the right to chill out.

I think that was the right move because I'd imagine these guys on the right would pummel one of these Antifa guys pretty bad. They're by themselves walking over, you know what I mean? So what do I see when I walk over to the Antifa side? And I'm not dressed like a right-wing guy. I get a guy swinging at me. He hits my phone a couple times, tries to get in my face, just tells me to hit him.

And that's the difference between what happens when you go and try to report on these things. The people on the right, I can walk into, you know, I go back to Occupy Wall Street era. I show up at CPAC. It was like 2012 CPAC. And I'm walking around and literally nothing. No problems. Nothing happens. People are like, how's it going?

Have a nice day. That's it. You show up to one of these Occupy protests. Even when I was down there and half the people liked me, I still had Antifa attacking me. I was physically attacked three times in New York during Occupy Wall Street proper. Physically attacked by these people. And they supposedly liked me. So why would a journalist want to be involved in that? You have to basically just tell them, you have to say whatever they want you to say. So you're not really doing reporting. Well, so I get into this a little bit in my Chaz chapter as well, because when we talked about the journalistic failures that were going on, and actually Chief Carmen

Best, who was the police chief that resigned in Seattle in the wake of all this, has said that it was like a disinformation campaign. Because here's what would happen. The dynamic was the media would go there, most of the mainstream media would go during, including Fox News, would go there during the day. They would set up. They would have their huge cameras, their huge lights.

They would do a hit. And during that time, you get the day trippers. You get tourists, you get people just there with their kids walking around. And it is sort of generally a sociable atmosphere, you know, people, the drugs are kind of, you know, freely going around. There's no police. Remember, that was the whole thing. There was no police for 12 blocks. So then at night, all of those reporters would leave and they would go back to their hotels or go to the bar and drink craft beer or whatever. They'd leave. That's when all of the violence was going on. That's when the black blocks would really start coming out in force.

That's when you actually saw criminal gang elements that had nothing to do with the social justice or Antifa aspects of this, but would come in because, hey, there's no cops here. So we can go commit crimes and we can go do deals where we don't have to worry about being caught. That's also where you then got those shootings. There were five shootings on four separate occasions. All throughout Chaz happened right after I left. And I said, this is going to be a bubbling cauldron of violence. I said that, you know, as we're walking out, I pulled my mask off and we kind of did like a live stream saying, you know, this is going to get bad. Jenny Durkin, who was the mayor now, is not running again, by the way, in Seattle, because I think we know what happened there. It's you had people dying, you had people being shot, you had people being killed because and

reportedly this investigation is still open. But a lot of those early reports were that it was the Chaz security, the John Brown Gun Club, that had actually been involved in some of these shootings because they were who proud boys were but they they were all certain that the kkk of seattle which apparently they think is a thing i've never heard or seen anything we got we got we got to stop using we got to stop using their words it wasn't it wasn't chas security it was terroristic insurgents precisely so the what we often see with these conflicts is that the left will say it's George Floyd Square. And then what happens is the media shows up and they film the peaceful inhabitants at George Floyd Square, except for a couple weeks ago when 30 gunshots ring out in the report. When it was drive-by shooting square. Exactly.

And so we keep referring to these things the way they demand they be referred to. Well, this is why with the whole Chaz Chop thing, right? So they realized very early on that chas was really really bad branding in their part right capitol hill autonomous zone and then the minute that media narrative got out and people said wait what do you mean you've declared yourselves autonomous you're autonomous from the united states your own country within a couple of days they get up no no we're just kidding we're actually the chop we're just it's just an occupied protest we're trying to bring back some of that goodwill from you know zikadi park and the original occupy no no no but what did what did conservatives do a lot of

conservatives adopted chop i never did i wouldn't even call it all the way through i wouldn't even call it that what did you call it a no-go zone it was a no-go that's it this was a this was a far-left extremist no-go zone you look at the definition of a no-go zone it was a no-go that's it this was a this was a far left extremist no-go zone you look at the definition of a no-go zone look at the standard colloquial understanding it means a place where the police are reticent to go or are they the medical professionals uh ems police they don't want to go there because it's too dangerous individuals only enter with great personal risk that's exactly what these places are so we actually tracked one of the guys who was a member of this genre at least suited up to join the john brown gun club in chas and daniel allen baker this is a guy who was later arrested early 2021 down in tallahassee florida why because he was planning

a left-wing armed action at the at the florida court or excuse me, Florida Capitol, right? Daniel Allen Baker. He goes out there, travels from Florida to Chaz to create, to be this sort of militia security group. Where did he have his training? He's one of these Antifa guys that actually went to Syria to join the battlefield forces of the YPG. This is the Kurdish group that's out there.

They're tied to the PKK, who are terrorist designated group. He that's out there. They're tied to the PKK, who are terrorist designated group. He's actually out there on the battlefield. But of course, because they were fighting ISIS at the time and, you know, sort of more infighting for the Kurdish areas, you get all these stories in Rolling Stone. He's actually in one of the Vice documentaries from Syria talking about how great it is that these these left wing just true believers are out here fighting for something, fighting for their own land. Right. It was almost sort of like they're trying to create this stateless space up there in northeast Syria.

He comes back, has the training from the battlefield, has the TTPs. He goes up there and Chaz and we've got these these quotes from him. We've got tweets from him. And he's saying, look, if we really want to have an autonomous zone, we've got to take this to the next level. We need more guns. We need explosives. We need all sorts of things. I'm quoting him, by the way. And we need to take this to the next level because eventually the police are just going to come in here and shut this down. But he was really pushing them to go forward. Now, of course, we know that didn't happen. But that very same guy claims he claims that he was one of the medics involved in one of these shootings. The question is, of course, was he there as a medic or was he there as something else?

Or one of the people that stripped all the evidence out of the vehicle when they pumped it full of hundreds of rounds killing two teenagers. Precisely. They killed one that time. The other one survived. The other one survived. And now there's, I think, a couple lawsuits over yeah these people who are killed the parents are blaming the city i mean the city could have come in and set that all up but these these these democrat leaders they're they favor this stuff right and it is it does kind of create the moral question of you know

do the people of the city now do they deserve it no obviously not and this is why i keep telling people just get out of cities they can just you just need to be out of the city now, do they deserve it? No, obviously not. And this is why I keep telling people just get out of cities. They can just, you just need to be out of cities for a while because a lot of the people in the cities, you look at places like I'm, I'm from the Philadelphia originally. Uh, they just reelected the DA who's like, let's, let's not prosecute people. Let's let people out of jail. Uh, Larry Krasner. So that he just won the primary. Handily won the primary there. So they are voting for this kind of stuff. St. Louis, same situation. St. Louis, which is now one of the murder capitals in terms of homicide rate of the United States. St. Louis, who would have thought that that would have been Ferguson? I know you're at Ferguson.

And so if they're voting for this again and again, the question is, is this what they want? Let me ask you a question. So Jack just mentioned there was a guy in – this was the Seattle no-go zone with the terroristic insurgents of the far left. And he was talking about how they wanted to escalate things, but it never happened. This guy who wanted violence and explosives, was he prosecuted? Was he locked up? Did the feds come and arrest him? Did they put out out his photo and say please help us stop this dangerous terrorist uh yes but

not for that not until much much much later when he said that he was going to do something at the tallahassee capital in florida in 2021 for all of his activity again going to the middle east and training with a terrorist designated group going to to Chaz, being involved in all this stuff, not prosecuted. Well, any of it. So so so here's a guy far leftist. They didn't care about his his his goings on in Seattle. Complete. There were a lot of other people.

Has anybody been arrested over the murders? No. I got a story for ABC News. Prosecutors drop case against a man charged in capital riot federal prosecutors have dropped the criminal case against a new york man who was accused of participating in the riot at the u.s capital the fbi went arrested a man because my understanding is a paid informant this told the fbi he was in the capital and they said good enough for us went arrested him turns out he wasn't phone evidence apparently proves he wasn't

they never had evidence yet they're gonna go and track this guy down on the ward of some random nobody but these antifa extremists nothing on this one i did you actually pull up the charging documents on that no oh so i actually went into that earlier today, and I was looking at it as a story for human events. We're still probably going to do it, but I want to give it due justice. But since you brought it up, I'll mention it. This paid informant sounds like, and again, they're very vague about it because they're trying very hard to make sure that they're not revealing their source on this. He was in a Facebook group chat, and it appears that he was in the group chat prior to January 6th, that he was already there. So just taking that information as it is, you're looking at a capability,

you're looking at a tactic the FBI is using. They are paying people to go into Facebook group chats and keep track of what's going on in there. And so the question then becomes, as you're looking through there now, again, they're not showing the actual messages in this chat, because I think that might reveal who it is. They're just referring to the messages. So it becomes very hard to tell whether the guy they're talking about is the one who actually went in or whether it's somebody else who was in the group chat. Because even I remember having been in the capital on, excuse me, not in the capital, in DC on January 6th. But being in that area, I was across the street at the one of our news studios, cell service was down, right? You could

not get access anywhere. So it would be very interesting for me to hear that somebody was in the Capitol and able to post into a Facebook group chat in real time, right? That almost to me makes it sound like he wasn't in the Capitol because I was having to make phone calls from the side of the street to people who are outside the area with access to be able to tell me what was actually happening inside. This is not the first time this has happened. We had the story of the woman in Alaska. Yep. She posted a photo outside wearing. But that wasn't informant. That was that was something else. That was the feds just being like, we got her and then arresting the wrong person. That was if you looked into that, that wasn't the first incident that she was

involved in. If you look in terms of the timeline of when she came across the radar, she was involved in a mask dispute with Alaska Airlines airlines right and and that's when the airline employee seems like well we don't know for sure but it seemed like it was the airline employee then thinks i want to do something about this woman i'm very upset at her so then goes on to fbi's list of the faces that are pointed out and that have all been listed somewhere and said yeah you look kind of like that one and um we're going to and so I'm going to send this to the FBI and say that you are definitely that person. And so the FBI says, hey, we've got the word of an employee.

They've identified you. This is this is the person we're coming. And they raided her house on all this. Now, by the way, going back to, you know, I'm not going to say circle back. They're going to do that. They're going to use that phrase. They're going to use that. Thank you, Jen. Not going to do that. Not going to use that phrase. We don't use that anymore. Thank you.

Thank you, Jen. We love you so much. But no, when it comes to Antifa, when it comes to these no-go zones, when it comes to the anti-fascist, anarchist terrorism, this is never done, right? We see their faces so many times. We see the live streams. This is never done. I got to argue with you. You call them anarchists.

They're not anarchists. Well, they're anarcho-communists. They're not anarcho-communists. They're tankies. They're authoritarian communists. You get a swath of both. Yeah, but true anarchy means without authority. So left

anarchists are like hippies sitting down stoned and just not fighting. If you've actually ever seen like, I'm sure you know ANCAPs. Yeah, of course. They have the non-aggression principle. That's a much more well-defined ideology. Libertarians and ANCAPs, you know, it's the free market. Don't aggress on me.

The actual lefty anarchists, because I knew a bunch at Occupy, were absolutely opposed to fighting with cops, being confrontational. These are the people that would like sit in circles in the street like Singh Kumbaya because they also agree with you can't assert force over someone else. That's a form of authority. What happens is you get these authoritarian communists, and there's varying degrees of authoritarian between them. The tankies up in the far left of the quadrant who are like, take over, kill everyone who opposes us.

But then you have some who are like, we'll it by force it's the only way none of those people believe in a system without authority they believe they are the authority they believe they have they are the ones who have the moral authority to determine what is and and isn't and they will use physical violence against you which is the epitome of exerting authority against another person they do however use the word anarchy to describe themselves. However, disguise it. What if they're fighting fascism? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Because this is because this is no, but I'm saying this is what they use as sort of the

justification in many of these cases. This goes back to the original Antifa in Weimar, Germany, that they're not anarchist. The system is fascism. The the police are fascism. The military is fascism. Banks are fascism. The system is fascism. The police are fascism. The military is fascism. Banks are fascism. The church is fascism. Tim Pool is fascism.

Those were communists, anti-fascists. They specifically called themselves communists. Well, this is why I say anarcho-communists. But the actual anarcho-communists, like they're lying to you, basically. Oh, I agree with that. Yeah, they're definitely lying so the reason I always try to clarify on what anarchy is because if these people truly believe

anarcho-communism is hippies on a farm that's it it doesn't scale up there's no 10,000 citizen city that's anarcho-communistic, it's impossible so what ends up happening is the more a left anarchist

wants to grow their society, the more authoritarian they naturally become. They call themselves anarchists often because they're trying to recruit people into believing they're the peaceful ones who want to empower you, but they're lying. So I don't like using their language. Some animals are more equal than other animals. if you talk to uh like michael malice sure he's a huge fan of of of anarchy and anarchism and he'll tell you what it actually is yeah i actually um so i just i got his book as well where i i think it's actually a it's like essays on anarchism but it's it's like a compilation so he wrote some of it and then it's other essays and so we actually cover some similar topics.

So we both talk about Leon Cholgash, who was the anarchist that killed McKinley. We talk Emma Goldman comes up in both. Now, obviously, his head is a much more in-depth understanding just of anarchism. But it's interesting that we are both covering the same thing, but I think from different perspectives. Yeah, I view it like, you know, I've had long. So that's just one chapter for me. Yeah, I've had I've had long discussions with a lot of people from like occupy wall street and the leftists and i'm like you know how do you define authority right and they typically will say you know like the people

who control the system the top of the hierarchy blah blah blah and then we we inevitably get inevitably get down to the philosophy of what is an occupying a form of authority though uh it depends it depends on so so obviously you have the power principle that exists in the in the woke left depends on who you talk to but they typically will say that you know authority is you know the people who control the system and determine you know what is or isn't and i say how do they control that system they say with the police state with violence and with force and i say okay so the exertion of physical force against another person to make them right do what you want that's authority and they were like yes and i said so when you go out and smash

windows and start fires and beat people what's the difference you just don't have the same level of power they do but you certainly seem to want it and believe in it so this came up one night when we were at chat this this whole like lord of Flies Hobbesian reality where there was a guy who was accused of theft. I remember this. And so, you know, not to go through the, because, I mean, there was a whole thing. It was like he broke into a car dealership, and he was essentially stealing keys. He was accused of stealing keys as well as a jacket. He gets held by the owner.

Then they chase him out. Then the whole sort of bulk of people hear about this they tear down the street my brother and i are standing right there as this is all going on we were just like interviewing some guy when it when we turned the mob is just charging up the street at us and and you know brother what do we do is it start running i guess you know see what's going on keep filming right and and so we do we keep filming they knock down the fence they get in the guy bolts he gets away but in this guy being who he is he comes back later trying to like act as if he's part of the group like hey guys what's

going on and meanwhile the son of the dealer owner is right there saying hey you're wearing my dad's jacket you're you're clearly the guy who just tried to rob jacket rob like yeah you know the um retired nypd guy in a class i was in once said you know in the intel community was said like you know most of the people that that you know resort to crime aren't necessarily the smartest people to begin with so you know and he was like trying to get like sell people chips out of a bag it's like a backpack so they so they start chasing him again once they identify him they grab him they hold him up and And he was trying to sell people chips out of a bag, like a backpack. So they start chasing him again once they identify him. They grab him.

They hold him up. So Raz, sort of the Raz Simone, the warlord Raz, is there at this point. He cocks and locks right in front of me and starts running down the street after this guy with the son of the car dealer who has an AR-15 and kit. They're chasing this guy. They grip him up. They have him up on the hood of a car. And then the question comes, right? You know, open your bag.

And, you know, in the back of my head, I'm thinking, on whose authority? Right. On whose authority do I open this bag? The force. They exert over others. The authority of force they exert over others. This is where warlords come from. This is Lord of the Flies.

This is Hobbes. Life is nasty, British and short. He wins every time because they had to resort to that immediately. So there are a lot of people who might say they're anarchists or whatever. They wear all black. They go and smash things. But it's also important to realize some of these people don't have a political ideology. We assume if they're there with Antifa, then they must share their beliefs. A lot of them are just smashing for the sake of smashing.

And if you talk to them, they won't understand any concept of political philosophy or any real ideology. So we get into this a little bit in the book as well. And I talk about Eric Hoffer, who's sort of the working class philosopher of the 1950s, who wrote this book called True Believers. And he's talking about this situation. When you have this sort of mass of basically disenfranchised youth, typically male, who are denied meaningful work, who are denied meaningful access to society, or at least the perception of denied meaningful access to society, you get all these tensions that will inherently bubble up and they will go, go into something. And in some cases, they know it goes, they go into religion. In some cases they'll go into, uh, you know, this, you know, you could look at stuff that's going on right now. Obviously Hoffer didn't talk about this, but like keto or CrossFit or some of

these different things. But for other people, you know, they want to just be the guys who are going out drinking and getting into fights. And so here's's the thing if you're looking at the situation now and even you know not consciously making this decision but if the media is telling you well if you join this drinking and fighting group you'll be prosecuted but if you join this one you'll be celebrated applauded and if something happens you know you'll either get a slap on the wrist or the charges will be dropped which one you're going to join that's why we see that there was that video out of portland where some random kid runs up and punts a guy in the head that kid doesn't have a political ideology that guy can't tell you anything about that's like from 2016

right no no no this was uh the punt in the head i think was 2018 okay yeah i'm pretty sure it's 2018 a guy is running from the group of antifa and then they push him. He falls and the kid runs up and then folk just punts his head. That kid doesn't believe in anything. Most of those people there, the mob that chases random people doesn't believe in anything. So these are just useful idiots, just bodies for authoritarian communists. The people who are willing to use violence to get their way. So I'll put it this way. The people you've met from Antifa on a political ideology, do they believe in respecting your right to liberty? Absolutely not. Right. They believe that they should dictate how you live and how everyone else should live. Libertarian left. Hey, man, me and my friends are going to go do our thing and cooperate, and you do your thing.

It doesn't scale. You can't have 10,000. No. You can't. But you can have a free market. A libertarian right can scale up infinitely. So this is the problem that Lenin ran into in the Soviet Union. And you see, I'm looking for this Bolshevik revolution.

I'm looking for this worker revolution. What is wrong with these workers? They're just not revolting. I don't understand. Why do they just keep going to their jobs and and working it's we need to come up with well we'll perhaps you know the theory can't be wrong it's just we're just missing an element yes that's what it is we need a you know a group to lead the workers yes that's what it is and we'll'll call it the, of course, the revolutionary vanguard will be the end. That'll be us, of course, because we're not stuck in these menial jobs.

While we will be the vanguard to to lead the workers in their uprising again to their best uses because we know what's best for them. That's and that's when that's where that's where it becomes goes from Marxism to Marxist Leninism. So Lenin adds this idea of the vanguard of the proletariat, and that becomes the Bolsheviks. Let's talk about the political realities of these leftists. Did you see that OK Boomer Girl apparently has a $2 million apartment in New York? Doesn't surprise me. So we actually have a beautiful art just behind Jack of OK Boomer Girl. It's a Nico, right?

Nico something? Yeah, Nico. So this is art from G Prime 85. Nico. So this is Joe Biden as a gigantic Junji Ito-style monster eating OK Boomer Girl. So she's wearing a shirt that says, Tax the Rich. Apparently she lives in a $2 million apartment. Congratulations on all your wealth and success.

Just don't pretend that you're a leftist when you are the bourgeoisie but the vanguard of the proletariat right we also have this story that i want i want to i want to break down we're getting back to the good old days jack where we used to make fun of aoc all the time it was like she's the biggest news right we have this story from the daily mail quote sell your 70 000 tesla critics slam learjet liberal aOC for not helping her grandmother after she posted photos of her Puerto Rican home ravaged by Hurricane Maria and blamed Trump. So here's what

we know about AOC. First of all, I am not happy to see that her grandmother is living in terrible conditions because of the hurricane. It devastated Puerto Rico. I'd love to be able to help out. We should do like a fundraiser. A give-and-go for her grandma.

A give-and-go for AOC's grandma in her huela, right? Her huela in Puerto Rico. Yeah. Normally I would say yes, but I kind of agree with the critics. I'm not going to assume AOC bought a Tesla in cash. People seem to think that this Nico woman, she has a $2 million apartment. She doesn't have $2 million in cash. got a mortgage all right so she puts down it still means she probably had like 20 grand for closing costs and if she put on like five percent so she

still has a lot of cash oh yeah to buy it aoc probably put a down payment on the car i mean right so aoc doesn't have 70 grand she probably put a down payment she probably got a loan for the car but she ain't doing too bad. Apparently she lives in that really nice luxury hotel in, or I'm sorry, luxury apartment in D.C. with an infinity pool. We heard that story. So she's going to make these. Congressional salaries are about $175,000 plus, by the way, you get per diem, you get mileage. Staff salaries.

You're doing fine. You're doing very well. I have to imagine she makes money elsewhere. I doubt she's just sitting on a congressional well and we already know though that she did have that position with the justice dems and there was that whole sort of like and this was actually something that got investigated that's why they were sort of disbanded a lot of it because they were trying to run a political committee and a for-profit uh firm but as both as the justice it was feeding each other. It was almost laundering cash, right? I've never accused AOC of laundering cash. That's terrible. I say almost because I can't make that official

assessment because I don't know, but basically one company hires her boyfriend, and then all of a sudden he moves in with AOC in New York. How convenient. Yeah, things like that. But this is the perfect example of, it's not limousine liberal. They're calling her a Learjet liberal. She's not a liberal. She's a – Socialist.

Socialist. What would we call that? What's an expensive thing that starts with the letter S? We can make a – Champagne socialist? Yeah, that's a shot. I got that one. You get the alliteration – a little bit of alliteration.

Close, close. Shibley. Shibley. Shibley socialist. But it's still a shot. I don't drink, but total shout out to Rachel Bovard because she gave a sommelier presentation. Oh, sommelier socialist, maybe. There you go.

And I was enthralled. She just knew everything about it. She's apparently been selling it for seven years. And I don't drink at all. Totally not my thing, but I was just really interested in the stories this is uh this is this is what we consistently get i mean we had limousine liberals for a long time the people saying oh climate change and then they fly in private jets so climate change they buy beach rent property now you get aoc saying like my poor grandmother and it's like lady you got money

i'm not gonna pretend aoc is the one percent or this is this is uh barack obama's brother in in africa oh right right right that whole thing yeah so this this is the this is the i guess the consistent message we should expect from these leftists who claim to want to fight for the working class or tax the rich it's like dude they're rich do they think they're working class like aoc when she's she's educated elite now she's in Congress. Yeah, if you're – this is actually something I thought about a lot as I was – so a lot of the book I wrote like a year ago. So throughout 2020, I'm writing this. The Antifa book. Yeah, the Antifa book. But I get into all this stuff.

I get into socialism, communism, anarchism. I get into all of it, right? And I kind of just use Antifa as the touchpoint for all of it. And so I went back and I was like sort of speed reading it just to refresh myself and all of it. And, you know, and I, so I went back and I've been, I was like sort of speed reading it, you know, just to refresh myself and going through it. And, you know, just really thinking about this issue of, you know, the working class and the people who claim to represent the working class. If you're someone who claims to represent the working class, you're probably not working class. It's, it's, it's like never happened. It's, it is so incredibly rare because people who are in working class, they're, they're,

they're working. They've got their families. They, you know, uh, you know, they're busy. They're, they're, they're living paycheck to paycheck. And we want to, you know, obviously we want to have a system where people like that can have a family and can have home ownership and don't have to be in, you know, up to their ears in debt. Right. But, and they shouldn't and don't have to be in, you know, up to their ears in debt,

right? But and they shouldn't need these massive expansive political movements claiming, you know, some sort of agency of acting in their benefit, because you're just not you're typically either you're either the new poor, or you're someone who's from that sort of upper middle class band of, well, I never really had any meaningful rite of passage. So my, you know, finding myself finding my mise on my center finding my center is going to be helping those who are less fortunate that i they don't know how to help themselves but i do it's interesting how new classes emerge right you had like the proletarian the bourgeoisie and then there's that that painting i don't know if you ever seen it where it's like the workers and then the police and then you know it's like a layer

and then the politicians are on top or whatever you're the one where they're like holding it up yeah yeah yeah i see that so you have like aoc who is certainly not the working class she is an educated elite bourgeois she is wealthy by global standards especially and a six-figure salary nearly 200k plus probably she makes money elsewhere she's probably over 200 000 a year she's really close to the one percent really close but she's not i think one percent is up to like 400 or something a thousand a year to be one percent but she's well off but the more the the uh it's interesting that there's not just the working class and the landlords anymore or the merchant class then it's all of a sudden there's like there are middle class people who are also landlords because they own a single property

and they rent out part of it right so it's what ends up happening is you get people like aoc who keep looking up they see the ultra wealthy and they say as long as i'm not them i'm the working class although i don't think aoc has ever actually produced something like her i'm not i think to be to be fair you know she's now um yeah she's in her second term as a congresswoman. You don't expect a lot of bills to get passed by someone who's, you know, this this new to the to Congress or anything. But what what is what is she actually given to society that that's helped? You know, I'd love to see that. I really do think that there's there's sort of this struggle with AOC because when she first ran, she actually seemed to be quite more populist than she has when she's been in office. You could argue the same about Trump, by the way. But you wonder if there are issues. And I seem to remember there were a couple of times where her and like Matt

Gates might have, you know, tweets that were both in support of the same thing in some of these instances. And you wish that you could see stuff like that going on where it's like, hey, we, you know, completely disagree on, you know, maybe this aspect of foreign conflict or, you know, certain climate change provisions. I think it was climate change. Actually, it was a climate change thing where Matt Gaetz was on. And you'd love to see something where these sort of this new generation of culture warriors is actually finding common ground. And you have to imagine that would trickle down to these device, the device of street level of some of this stuff or the device of social media level or the device of, you know,

the school boards and the Facebook groups and everything else where instead of it's, Oh, I've got to defeat you. I've got to beat you. I've got to, my team has to win. And so instead of making a team sport out of it,

you say, Hey, we're all on the same team. And that's called, you know, it's kind of cliche, but that's the United States of America. We all live here. It's not true anymore.

Can we do that? No, I understand you have a difference of opinion. No, I read that article from American Greatness. I disagree with it. I think it went a little far. But, I mean, Republicans right now are paid to sit on their hands and watch Democrats ravage the system. So even right now, with the conversation about conservatives using the language of the left. Look at what they're talking about the January 6th commission.

Republicans keep going exactly where Democrats want them to go. It reminds me of when I was younger. I was playing a game of chess. I was like 18. I was playing chess with this guy, and he was laughing. And he said, you can only move where I let you move. And he was right. He was better than me at chess.

And he knew if I go here, he'll go here because that's his best. And then he walked me into a checkmate. And then I had to learn and get better at the game. So you look at what's happening right now. The left comes out and says January 6th insurrection. Meanwhile, we had a year plus, two, three, four years of Antifa extremism. I remember watching in Berkeley, an old lady was standing in a park in the MLK Park. And some Antifa threw an M80 at her and then she falls backwards.

Someone was probably like 60, 70 years old. Could have gotten really hurt. And I was like, what is wrong with these people? No commission, no investigation, not even a commission on COVID. But the Dems come out and say, January 6th commission. And yet the Republicans do. No, it's political. The Republicans should do. BLM commission, Antifa commission. And then when they say January 6th, Republicans just do not respond at all in any meaningful capacity at all. Like you didn't even hear him say it.

Watch Jack say January 6th commission right now. Tim, January 6th. We should be investigating Antifa right now. I want to get a bill on the table to investigate Antifa. What do you say, Ian? You're here. All right. Although the Democrats wouldn't agree.

Stop walking into their room. It's like I'm watching a fight. It's between offense and defense, right? It's one side is projecting. The other side is deflecting. So the Republicans, and you've seen this again and again with the Republican Party. This is my party, right, where they will count it as a win if they were able to stop the Democrats from doing X, right, whatever it is. And you see this interplay again and again with the Republican Party.

Well, it's a win because we stopped this. It's a win because we stopped that. Oh, we couldn't get this to stop. They couldn't get this one through, so that was it, right? No, that's not a win, right? That's, that's, that's stalemate. That's neutral. If you're talking World War I, it's a slow defeat. They are going to win. Eventually, if you allow them to continue to take over every single institution of society, every single cultural outlet of society, like has been happening happening they are running the table with this because they knew that their policies if they came out and just told you you know early on say back in the 1990s

hey this is what we want this is what we're going to do with america it never would have flown in terms of public opinion there's a this famous quote from a great philosopher and he said never fight an alligator underwater oh he was He was right. It was Ian. Ian said that. Ian, that's pretty good. I love it. Yeah, it just came out of nowhere. And we're like, wow, that's a good one.

That's actually a good one. But yeah, look. Yeah, don't do that. Right, that's what Republicans do. They're going into the territory of the Democrats thinking they're going to win. It's like, bro, you're on their home turf. You've got to stand up for something and talk about what the American people want, what your constituents want. But apparently, I guess it wasn't wrong when the Democrats in the media were saying

Republicans just want to own the libs. So what do they do? They say, hey, lib, make an argument. Wrong. Your argument about the January 6th commission is wrong. And then the whole conversation, the whole time, all that anyone hears is storming the Capitol, riot, insurrection. Then you go and ask a leftist about Ant, and they go, what's Antifa?

Because Republicans don't talk about it. Right. And so this is why when Joe Biden comes out and says, Antifa, that's just an idea, right? It's he's setting the frame. He's already setting the frame of now you have to say Antifa is not an idea. Antifa is this, this, and this. And are they idea? Are they not idea?

Well, they don't have an organization. They don't have a leader. They don't have a headquarters. You see this on the Internet all the time. Every time I speak about Antifa, they say,, and this. And are they idea? Are they not idea? Well, they don't have an organization. They don't have a leader. They don't have a headquarters. And you see this on the internet all the time. Every time I tweet about Antifa, they say, where's their headquarters, Jack? Where's their, oh, Antifa, you know, where's the headquarters? Who's the leader? Who has the organization?

Do they have ranks? Do they have any of the uniforms? Actually, they do have uniforms. I say, well, they have uniforms. They do have ranks. They have logos. They have flags. They may not have stated ranks, but they do have a hierarchy in terms of their you

know red green yellow in terms of the black blocks so yeah they do actually have all of these things it's it's it's quite simple you know when a pit bull bites pit bull doesn't let go no it has now been what are we going on five months and the democrats will not stop talking about january 6th and the republicans how often have they brought up Minneapolis? Never. And one thing we should actually throw out, you know, today is actually the anniversary of David Dorn. Right. And I did not see and I, you know, maybe I just didn't see it, but I don't remember any of Republican leadership or anyone who's been on the sort of, you know, quote unquote, back the blue side to anything about that. You know, I ran the fundraiser for his family when that took place. You know, we did all we did everything for that.

And this was not something where you had anybody. Today's the one year anniversary. But when it was the one year anniversary of George Floyd, that's the only thing the Democrats they flew. They flew the Black Lives Matter flags at embassies at embassies at celebrations. The story we had out on human events and the story of David Dorn is that he was a retired police captain who heard an alarm go off at his friend's store and wanted to go check it out, and someone put a bullet in his chest. Yeah. He wanted to steal a TV.

And the film is brutal. The live stream. It live streamed. So, yeah, he ends up dying on Facebook Live. And a guy's yelling, like, all that for a TV, man. Meanwhile, you get the complicated story of George Floyd, which is complicated in the best case. It's hard to break through. David Dorn was a good guy, a model citizen, someone we could look up to. And when that, you know, and I did get the opportunity to speak with his wife early on and

made sure that, you know, we had her blessing, obviously, before we did the fundraiser. So it's worked her at length is before she came out and spoke at some of the conventions and did some of the advocacy work that she's done, which has been fantastic. But, you know, she told us these stories that, you know, he would go out and he would drive by the shop every once in a while. One of the reasons, um, that, uh, he cared about the shop so much, that's actually the place that it had been on his beat when he was a patrol officer. And so he had responded to things there in the past. It had been something that he just sort of came up with in St. Louis.

And that's actually the shop. They run a jewelry shop there as well. That's where he got the engagement ring for his wife. You know what? It's not just the Republican politicians. Look at what the left does for George Floyd. Look at what the corporations does for George Floyd. Look at what the corporations do for George Floyd. The Republicans should be passing a bill saying today should be David Dorn Day.

They should be putting up David Dorn flags. They should be doing everything and more the left has done for George Floyd but for David Dorn. The problem is the anvil is not hot for them. So if they try to mimic mimic it's kind of like the Democrats who were shooting downhill. If they try that same tactic, the physics aren't going to work. It's not about mimicking them. It's about making your own space. Creating your own culture.

Making and saying, you know what, Democrats, if you don't want to be involved in the conversation, we don't care because we respect David Dorn and we're sad for his loss. The problem is it's the media that's heating up the whole um chauvin you know so ignore them conservative media keeps responding to the left's narrative the media comes out and says here's our story and the conservatives then

respond to instead of doing their own work but for in order for the the republican politicians to get that done they would need media presence that would be like david dorn david dorn they don't remember david dorn no they don't people would be down that that being said though you know the question i think what you're really talking about is critical mass right and i think that at this point there is enough of a critical mass of independent media which thrives through social media like this podcast right here where you do now have this separate space which you can inject these cultural stories these icons david doran isn't it is a cultural icon we got a picture of him in the corner for you know i actually saw that someone someone drew

it for us and we hung it up and that's that as someone who was and and everyone who spoke about him a pillar of his community you know got people the street, in some cases got them into the police force, served the community. That's all he wanted to do. That was his whole life. Right. Didn't didn't even wake his wife up when he when he went out that night because he knew what was going on in St. Louis and he knew she probably would have said, don't go. And he knew he was going to go anyway.

Right. This this is the type of that's the type of hero. Right. This this is the type of that's the type of hero. Right. That that I want to teach my boys about that. I want to teach my kids about, you know, you look at David Dorn. This is a guy who is a hero. Right. Not not LeBron James, not, you know, some of these other celebrities who are out there shooting their mouth off about stuff that they've never even looked into. Right. Someone who serves the community, who serves others and in this case made the ultimate sacrifice. That's a hero. Think about David Dorn's behavior. The left is angry about police they say are brutal or too scared. David Dorn was a police

officer. He retired. And when he went to that pawn shop, did he show up shaking and quivering with a gun shooting wildly at civilians or whatever like the left would claim the cops do? No, no. So he certainly seemed like he was a good cop because when he went to this pawn shop, he didn't go in guns ablaze and he wasn't freaking out. And he lost his life because someone thought the TV was more valuable. So there's every reason this man should be celebrated by the left, but they don't care. And I think conservatives... By the way, working class. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. I think too many conservatives make the mistake of assuming that the left operates on the same moral foundation and moral framework as they do and that a sound argument will resonate with these people. No, either they don't care, they relish in the destruction, or they just want power. So when someone like David Dorn loses their life, oh, they're not going to say two words about it. When the Republicans do, what does the media say? They're just trying to own the libs by doing the same thing. And it's not the same thing. We're talking about a system and blah, blah, blah. Right. But so when you're talking about, and this isn't necessarily a moral question in this case,

but you were talking about the framework of these things and critical mass to take it back to the original story that we spoke about at the top of this, the lab leak theory, right? This was something where we were told very early on, you can't talk about this. This is debunked. This is not real. This is not a thing. And yet there was a cadre of independent media that never let go of this. They were a pit bull when it came to that story.

They didn't let go of it. And it finally broke through because enough people sat down. And a lot of it has to do with, you know, there's all these sort of like, you know, think pieces now. Well, you know, it really is interesting that it came around at this point. It's almost like something happened in going from 2020 into 2021 that we can now talk about it. Right. It's clear like Trump isn't around anymore. And this was this was the pro Trump kind of stance at the time that he took. And you just didn't want to say Trump was right. That's the reason people are talking about it now. But it's also because so many people for the past year and a half would not let this go. They knew the facts were on their side and they were a thorn in the

side of this narrative all the way through to the point where, of course, it broke through. And that's why you're seeing now, even in public opinion polls, you're seeing it spiking high 40s, almost 50 percent are saying look i think this came out of that lab yeah there was it was a medium article that started reigniting the the um and this is nicholas wade so there's a former the former new york times science couldn't even get it in the mainstream press had to write it on medium and then finally it breaks through but it is absolutely uh i'll i do think the work of buzzfeed contributed i think they knew the foyers were coming you know um the the fau BuzzFeed contributed. I think they knew the FOIAs were coming.

Fauci did and the government did. Many of the journalists were like, these emails are going to get released sooner or later. And I wonder if they were like, we'll release them. And what does BuzzFeed do? Totally positive narrative. Fauci was just fighting to keep – give us a sound, keep control of the situation. And then you read the emails and you're like, this is crazy. But the media's framing of it, CNN, WAPO, and BuzzFeed,

here's the emails leaked, and Fauci's a great and good man. So here's the real question, and this gets back to the other American Greatness article you were talking about. If we have, so the divisions in America, yes, there's an urban-rural division. I can't talk anymore for some reason.

Urban-rural. I'm there's an urban rural rural division i can't talk anymore for some reason urban rural rural i'm i'm i'm out here talking in different ways yeah um but um so we now have a division that can be neighbor to neighbor right we that it doesn't necessarily matter where you are it matters who you're listening to what you're listening to bro bro down the street there's two houses one that's all rainbows and one that's all trump oh nice next door to each other next to each other yeah and that's you know and that gets that reminds me of these these stories that you hear about when from the civil war and they talk about you know brother versus brother father versus son and you think like well i would i would never turn against my brother's my brother i would never turn against

my father's you know we may disagree when i turn against him and then you sort of look at some of these divisions now and you say, and the look at the way that families have split up over this stuff. I, I'll just say it right. I had people that did in my family that didn't want to come to my wedding because they were convinced. They were convinced that the woman I was marrying was a Russian spy because she she was born in the soviet union not not even russia one of the former you know the former satellite countries they would call them now but they were convinced because they're msnbc watchers and they are convinced that that's that's that's what was going on here's this trump guy and this immigrant girl from the wrong part of the world and well she must be you know she must be one of them and and i don't say that to like own

them or anything that's sad i just think i just think the whole situation is that i i'd rather have politics be put aside and i'd just like to have my family back right you know we can talk about star wars or something or whatever the latest superman movie is like i i batman versus robin which is quite good well we, we should take Super Chats. If you haven't already, give a little tap to that Like button. It really helps out. Share the show with your friends and people you know if you think we do a good job.

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We're going to start reading them. We got DC Pagan says, Rand Paul, 2024 Libertarians must take over the Republican Party. Yeah, what do you think about that? You like Rand? I like Rand but I don't think the Libertarians are going to take over the Republican Party. I don you think about that you like rand uh i i like rand but i i don't think the libertarians are going to take over no uh dave smith's cool people are like i like dave smith he's a great guy actually running i don't think so no no i think i think it's well he's babble on b so i think that's like uh it's like dave smith or no no no i think it's the other day um though i i think uh i think basically that the constituency

for the libertarian party isn't quite what they think it is in terms of the voting blocks well you've seen the meme but the fox it's like the very beautiful fox has libertarian ideas and then the scraggly yeah right right right politicians so you know gary johnson you know i think you know whenever we we mock politicians on the show and we're like you know one one one joke i made was like a new project for elon a new form of government is called marsism it's where you take all of the people as soon as they get elected and put them on the spaceship and then send them mars and that's it that's literally how the government works i'm fine with that and then they're just gone i'm totally never hear from again um but we're like oh rand paul can stay no i know rand paul he can stay no i got it and and you know i know i'm hard on my libertarians but i i will throw this out there

that libertarians you're so good on foreign policy you guys are just so good on that i love it yeah there's a lot of republicans who aren't and a lot of neocons who decided it's better to be a democrat because uh because you were going to lose your war by voting for a a anti-war republican right isn't that funny that you had a bunch of these neoconservatives who were like, all of these policies, literally everything, pro-life, not worth it for me. I just want to blow people up in the Middle East, so I'll be a Democrat instead.

Sounds like they didn't have a whole lot of principles to begin with. All right. Cristiano says, hey, bruv, not one to defend Biden, but checked footage. And it seems like the unknown soldier ceremony is a change in procedure. Last year, during both Memorial and Veterans Day, Trump did the same thing. All right. Well, there you go. What was that story?

Where the Biden didn't lay the wreath. They changed it. I guess people are saying it was changed for COVID. But I'm like, why would they keep doing it if they're not wearing masks in the procedure? But, you know, we'll talk about a lot of stuff in the bonus segment. So make sure you sign up for TimCast.com. Bonus segment comes up around 11 or so. Make 1984 Fiction Again says,

This episode, this is my $10 bribe to be the first on the list for TimCast bumper stickers. Also, how do I get a Don't Fight With An Alligator Underwater mug? Go to TimCast.com, click store, and the mug is there, and you can get it. And it's the meme of, it's the Drake meme, but it's Ian instead, and he's like, alligators underwater and then alligators on land.

Nice. Yeah. So you would fight them on land. I didn't say that. I just said don't fight them underwater. Because even that is still not probably a great idea. Not ideal. All right.

Maybe punch them in the nose or something. OMG Puppy says, Jack, who do you think is behind the demoralization and destabilization of Western societies? Active measures by foreign enemies, Soros, Davos, technocrats, domestic leftists, media outrage for profit. Well, so, I mean, you've got to look at the, you know, right. You've got to look at the sort of like the situation as it is or as it was towards the end of the Cold War. I mean, America was the hegemon america was the great power in the world and so the question is if you're someone who wants power you know and power it becomes a zero-sum game if you're in that sort of real politic environment then you've got to take it from someone and if that's western civilization

then that's your target right on all right k marie says tim cast is the new punk rock what happened to feel the rage of a new generation eric a says jack this is the most important question of the night how can i get your comic book uh we still have the comic book up it is at iconic comics.com i'm also actually gonna be doing my first uh comic con coming up this summer so we're actually going down to Texas for that. I think it's Temple, Texas. We're doing it in August. So super excited.

My comic is up there, Iconic Comics. I believe we have some autographed copies available there. Go get the Agent Poso. It's kind of based on my life, but like a very stylized version of it with my wife and my son and some of my cast of characters. Cassandra's in it, too. Cassandra's in it, right. And you have this weird silencer suppressor on your gun that makes no sense. Oh, man.

All the gun guys hit me. I didn't draw it. I didn't draw it. It's a weird thing. It's cool. Whatever. Did you hear about that punk band that's charging $1,000 to see the show? Yeah.

Unless you're vaccinated, then it's $18. So there's a funny story. The least punk thing I've ever heard in my life, actually. Yeah, it's like super pro-Big Pharma, super pro-establishment, and super pro-rich people. If you're rich, you get to go see their show. I still remember, you know, showing my age maybe a little bit, but when Green Day went and performed with like a John Kerry thing in 2004. And I was like, what? Yeah, I don't want to be an American idiot.

You shouldn't be political at all. Dude, they performed in 94, and I think their tickets were five bucks. Do you remember that? I saw them in 94. I actually did see Green Day in 94. It gets better. One of the fans of this band. I was super young.

I was super young. Sure. 94 or 95, one of those. One of the fans of this band, Teenage Bottle Rocket, apparently wasn't able to get the vaccine because she had just had COVID. And so the doctor told her, it's too soon. You're not gonna be able to get it. And so she's like, so now I literally don't get to get the vaccine because she had just had COVID. And so the doctor told her, it's too soon. You're not gonna be able to get it. And so she's like, so now I literally don't get to see the show. That's right.

If you're a poor person who was told by your doctor, the vaccine, you can't get it for some medical reason. And you want to go to the show, you'll be able to. But I can assure you the rich people won't care and won't think twice if they really want to go to that show. Not that they probably would. But if they chose to. I think people should. I think, you know, if there are rich people out there, go do it.

The vanguard of the working class. There you go. The vanguard. All right, this one's serious. Adam Austin says, Tim, I'm an electrician in Northeast Ohio. Copper prices aren't being talked about. Our wire went up almost 300% since January. Wire that was $67 is now almost $140.

Wow. Whoa. Early last year, Ian was like, dude, you got to buy a bunch of copper. And I'm talking a bunch. Like hundreds. It's like thousands of pounds of it. Mostly up 300%. So whatever you put into it, you're going to see.

So I bought a bunch of copper. But it's actually worth. Do you buy it by the ream or by the spool? Bars. I like ingots personally. Ingots. All right. Okay. But you can make wiring out ofars. I like ingots, personally. Ingots. All right. Okay.

But you can make wiring out of it. I mean, right. Yeah. Shell casing. You know, I got it because we have a little forge for, like, making things for fun. So I was like, it's probably not the best metal for that, but it's metal and it's cheap. And Ian was like, I should buy it. So I just bought some.

So cheap. Got copper bars. They're like, it's really cool, actually. There's like... It was not a precious metal when you bought it, but now it is. I mean, it kind of... There's like dollars. It's like a US dollar, but it's just copper imprint.

It looks pretty cool, and it's worthless. So you're counterfeiting copper money. No, you buy it from... If it was rare, I think it would be as valuable as gold. He's like, we've got this printing press out back. Special ink and paper.

Yeah, a little forge. You run the copper through and people keep saying Alex Jones was right again. Yeah. I remember when. Like a jar, right? The jar. Didn't Joe Rogan say like people owe Alex Jones an apology like a while ago? Yeah.

Yeah. I think he did, yeah. It was because I mentioned this before because we had him on the show. He told me that a lot of the meat we eat is cloned And I'm like no we're not eating cloned beef That's crazy I'm like dude we're eating cloned beef Didn't this come out

Was it salmon It's like lab grown If you want to say it's salmon It could be something else And the new one I remember And it won't be labeled. So you won't know. Oh, wow.

Yeah, you won't know. How crazy would it be if, like, literally Alex Jones was never wrong and we actually lived in that crazy of a reality of all the interdimensional aliens and cell towers and chimeras or whatever? Did you see? Didn't someone try banning human chimera research and the Democrats said, like, nah, we're good, we're going to do it? Really?

Yeah, what was that? Was that in the Fauci leaks too? No, no, no. It was like a normal voting session and they were like, so-and-so's amendment to ban human animal chimera research? No. This is when they were doing the voice votes a couple weeks ago. Yeah, it wasn't long ago. Yeah, there were a few of those.

And they did actually say in those voice votes there was an amendment, I forget if it was RANDS or not, but to shut down research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Yeah, that one passed. Yeah. All right. Let's grab some super chats. David MN says, I teased Jack about overusing the phrase breaking news and he blocked me on Twitter. I miss his tweets. Is that true?

No, that's not true. I don know you ever use that phrase all right nathan snyder says there was a recent study that showed give me give me his account i'll take care of it says david mn i don't know i will yeah just remember that one we'll take care of it afterwards nathan snyder says there was a recent study that showed the effectiveness of masks at protecting the wearer. In a low, low Viron environment, masks are effective. But in a high Viron environment, masks offer no protection. There was something that came out that said indoors, the air circulates so much that after a certain amount of time, it becomes less and less effective. So that was a huge problem. You're like, we learn new stuff every day.

I think it's fair to say, you know, a lot of people are saying like Fauci was saying, don't wear masks. And I'm like, there's an email where Fauci says he advises someone not to wear a mask. And I'm like, right. And then a month later, he literally said the exact same thing on 60 Minutes. Right. Identical. This is essentially concurrent.

Yeah. So it's people think he was secretly changing his opinion. No, no, no. He was public about being wrong and flip-flopping. What gets me is the people that I see just out in public, outside, by themselves, wearing a mask. Yep. Protecting the environment. Brooke O. says, Tim has the best at impressions. I think you're saying I'm the best at impressions, and that's true.

I am. But Jack's got a good Stewie Griffin, so. You know, the Stewie Griffin's all right. There's a few different ones in there but you know that was the one I just

I don't even know what it was yeah I don't even know what you're talking about there Chad your Stewie's good your Peter Peter's not

Peter's not as good as that you know it's not as good as that one it's kind of weird because Stewie and Peter are both Seth MacFarlane

dude I actually got to see Family Guy live once and they did it in New York in Broadway and so I got to see him doing a table read of this the whole cast was there but when you see him do it live you're like this guy has like split personalities or something because he's he's holding the conversations with himself in real time and it's it's wild it's absolutely wild that's cool someone gave us a

whole bunch of banana emojis yes wow what's up with Wow, yeah. What's up with the bananas? We're gorillas. Apes. No, we're apes. Apes together strong. Well, we're gorillas. Apes together strong. Yeah, you guys are apes. No, but this week it's apes. Okay. AMC apes.

Shout out to the AMC army. Oh, love. What's it at? What's it at? The diamond hands. It hit 74, I think, or what, 72? I think it's at O.S.R. right now. I think it's...

So I got... I know there's after hours. I got lettuce hands. You got lettuce hands. What does that mean? Yeah, I'm out. Banana hands. There you go.

Well, you won. Banana hands. Came out on top. you won banana hands 68 right now 68 right now 68 68 but it hit yeah it looks like it hit about 72 at one point man and i think i think it's gonna go way up but they keep saying it's they keep saying you know not the squeeze not the squeeze tim's not diamond hands tim is not diamond hands i was just like i don't you know i'm looking at them folks they're not diamonds at all nope i just didn't know i didn't want to like i didn't buy them before, like when the memes started.

When did you get in? When did you get in? Just like a couple days ago. Okay. No, I think literally yesterday. But you didn't get in back in January. A bunch of people did. I had like a little bit.

Okay. You know, like very, very little bit. Yeah. Like 10. I got in like two weeks ago when it was like 14. Yeah. And then just like today I'm watching – I'm still in, folks.

I'm still in. We got to do – I didn't feel comfortable constantly talking about it rising and also holding stuff. Because I'm like, what do I do? Hold it until it's zero? Or I was like, I don't want to have it. I didn't buy any GameStop either for this reason. I have scruples.

I hadn't bought GameStop. But this one, I've gotten. So I'm right. So I just kind of felt like, no, I'm not going to do this. So I sold it. Because you want to report on it without being on one side or the other. I didn't want it to get to 300 with me constantly talking about it and then people

be like, he's doing it because he's holding it. Right, right, right. Got it. Yeah, but I still did when it started jumping up really high, I was like, nah. We got to get a picture of Tim all like nah, with lettuce hands. With the lettuce hands. I love lettuce hands because someone was making fun of David Portnoy.

And I like Portnoy. He's cool. But someone mentioned how he sold his meme stocks and they called them lettuce hands. Yep. Right. It was on Hotep, I think. That's pretty good. And I thought it was funny.

Lettuce. It's worse than paper. It's definitely worse, yeah. Lettuce hands. But it's so visual. I love the visual. You know what I did, though? I invested in graphene production.

Okay. Companies that produce graphene. Ooh. And this will help with the counterfeit press. I mean the fortune. No, no, no. Just Ian won't stop talking about it. So it's like, I'll buy some stock in a graphene company.

Dude, this is what's going to re-industrialize the United States of America. What's going on? Are you familiar with graphene as a material? Enlighten me. It's a single layer of atomic carbon so just a flat layer hexagonally latticed if you look at it it's like looks like a honeycomb sure and it's a more conductive than copper it's stronger than steel it's more deformable than paper you could make like touch screen it's a superconductor and a capacitor as well so it can be like a battery

and a wire all at once wow you could make like touchscreen wallpaper you can make clothing out of it that's like touchscreen um you can eat it you can ally with so many things it's not too hard to make it's just that we have to build the facilities to make it so once so i look at these some of these companies and they've been going up in value the ones that produce to get graphic production once we get to the mass production level it's going to start revolutionizing tons of our electronics and tons of stuff we make. And then I think these companies will skyrocket in value

the more it gets heavily adopted. So it's like a snowball rolling down a hill. Right. If you build it, they will come. Once the factories exist and they can make it cheap enough, everyone's going to want to use it, which is going to make the factories

expand and grow. Scale, scale, scale. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the meme stocks, it's fun, but I'm kind of like i want to invest something that makes me feel good that's it's tangible you know i can appreciate that which is dogecoin so i bought a bunch of right all right orwell was a prophet 1984 says for service guarantee citizenship how about a net one dollar taxes paid threshold to vote if you annually paid

5k in taxes but receive 5001 in1 in government programs, you can't vote. Just $1 net paid. Hell, I'd be okay with one cent. DeSantis Paul 2024. It's not a bad idea. If you're on the receiving end of welfare, then you abstain. And if you're on the producing end of welfare, then you get a vote. It's not perfect.

People that are born into poverty and people that are born into wealth, I hate that. I hate that family wealth is passed down. I mean, think about it this way. This is clever, though. Listen, if the people who are paying taxes, let's say you're born poor, right? And so your family receives some kind of benefit. Then the rich people who are paying taxes say, we're tired of paying all of these poor people. We're giving money to the government. It's going to them, and they're lazy.

So then guess what happens? Because you can't vote, they all vote, and they strip away your welfare benefits. Well, guess what? Now you can vote. Now you can vote. I think it's going to make a lot of angry voters. I think what we need is a vanguard of the working class.

Clearly. And the vanguard will drive them into the promised land milk and honey milk and honey Nolan Bus says will you please have Steve Bannon on I think we could muster that you know Steve Bannon right

I could ask him it's hard Steve doesn't want to go to anything he's like a recluse though he doesn't want he does not leave. He's like a recluse. He's like a recluse, though. He does not leave the Bannon townhouse. He does not like to live there. I bet it's nice. It's very nice. It's the same thing.

Every once in a while, it will, but it's very specific reasons. Same thing with Crowder and a bunch of other personalities. I'm like, why would they leave their own show, which is wildly popular, to come and do my show? It doesn't make a lot of sense. People who are consistently running a podcast have less of a reason to leave their podcast for somebody else. Yeah, it's – I don't know. Limited circumstances. I can run it by him.

Well, we'll see. Whatever. I'm not going to cry about it. People were like, get Crowder on. I'm just like, Crowder's not going to fly out here. He's doing a show. He's doing a big show. It's way bigger than this one.

He'd be doing me a favor if he did. That'd be great. Hey, shut down. Hey, buddy, shut down your company for a day or so just to come out and help my company grow. That's the thing, too, is like people don't realize that, you know, when you get to a certain point that you're just constantly being pulled in different directions. Like, you know, even for me, it's like, you know, and, and time is a finite resource, right? So, you know, the time you're putting into this means like, like for me, it's like, Hey, I'm, I'm, this is the night that I didn't get to see my kids very much. Right. And I spent the whole day with them, which is great, but it's

like, that's, you know, is it worth it? It's like, you know, Tim, I haven't done a couple months. Let's go come out and do it. We've got the book, we're doing human events now. So let's do it. But at the same time, when you're, when you're running operations out something like abandoned or crowder etc you know you're constantly churning you're constantly churning stuff out or you're like fauci who's just so you know he's responding to emails all he does apparently is a machine emails all right let's see liberty or death says COVID and Chaz, there were frequent rumors of mysterious trucks driven by racist people running around Seattle attacking people. Then a truck flees into Chaz and a teenager ends up dead because they whip up these lies to recruit people. You tell a lie for a few months about crazy cars.

Then once everyone's heard about it, you go, join us to defend against these cars. You've heard about the cars, right? No. I mean, I heard about, I know about the shooting incident. You know what I mean? Like, someone makes up the rumor. I'm saying hypothetically. Right.

You start a rumor. You wait a month. Then you go up to someone and say, you heard about those cars, right? Those racists? Yeah. It's bad, right? Yeah. Help us stop them.

You see what I mean? We have to stop the cars. You make the rumor and then you recruit off it a month later. Yeah, obviously. All right. Daniel Welch says, Tim, I have to correct you. You keep saying beef is bad for the environment. Please get someone who knows regenerative agriculture to talk about food systems or watch Sacred Cow on Amazon.

Grasslands can store huge amounts of carbon. That is true. Yeah, I think the problem is factory farming for the most part. So Michael Schellenberger talks about this in his book. And he'd be something great for you guys to have on if you haven't yet. And his book is fantastic. And he writes it from the perspective of an environmentalist. But something he talks about in terms of the environment is that if we make better processes for cattle, we're not going to stop raising cattle, right?

This is just something as a civilization we've been doing for, you know, arguably 5,000 plus years, right? You know, husbandry, agriculture. That being said, the more efficient we make these processes, the better it is for the environment. Yeah. Rad number two says true anarchists want to be able to own machine guns engage in consensual transactions and be left the hell alone by the state antifa are just a bunch of posers that is true but how can you own anything if there is no authority you you can't aggress against another person but like who are you to say that it belongs to you that's only because

the authority says it's yours so So in a left anarchist vision, everyone agrees to arbitration. So you have, let's say in their utopian vision of a society, there's no authority. It's just literally if there's a river and people are disputing what can go into it, all of the people with a stake in it have to sit down in a big circle

and do jazz hands to discuss. So someone says, I'd like to speak, please. I believe that the river would be best accommodated, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then someone else would be says, I'd like to speak, please. I believe that the river would be best accommodated, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then someone else would be like, I disagree. And then everyone votes. So it's a vote, comes down to a vote. Yeah.

Demarchy, basically. No, demarchy would be random representation. Democracy, democracy. So it's democratic, but it ultimately, in many of the situations where anarchists have tried, it has to be unanimous. Well, so this is something similar to what they're actually trying to push in Rojava, in that northeast Syria sort of quadrant, where they call it democratic confederalism. And that's the idea, is that it's sort of like these local councils that are set up, but then they have a lot of this like ultimate authority, and there is no, there's no like

higher board or commission that they go to. This is the problem. Obviously, if you have a large swath of land, there's no way to have a meeting of you know a hundred thousand people all doing jazz hands to figure out what they like or they don't like when you have 10 people consensus is not hard however with occupy wall street when it scaled up to even a few hundred people the whole thing broke i'll give you an example it It was hilarious. The sanitation working group, the people who cleaned the crap at Occupy said, we need bins for storing things when it rains. Otherwise, everything gets soggy and dirty. So they said, I propose as the working group,

sanitation working group that the, you know, the, the, the funds that we have from the donations be used to buy us a set of bins. Someone then said, I object. This is wasteful. We can't use plastics. It's destroying the planet. Someone then said, compromise. What if we do recycled plastics? So now we're taking them out of the dump and putting them to good use. Someone else then said, but they're not being produced fairly. So if we buy the recycled ones, we're still propping up unfair trade practices. So then they said, okay, here's the compromise. We need fair trade, recycled plastic bins bought on a secondary market, not from a major store or a chain or corporation. And so they went, agreed.

And then the executive, the facilitators went to Walmart and bought bins. Because you can't do that. How are you supposed to find? Where are they going to find these magical bins that check every little box? It's impossible. Right. So what was happening was. At the level that they need.

You had a few hundred people. Time they need. And everyone had a complaint. Right. So if you have 10 people and someone's like, I propose that for dinner we have fried rice. And someone else says, I'm not in the mood for rice. It makes me gassy. I want fried vegetables.

Well, then a consensus is not hard to come by with only 10 people. Eventually someone says, okay, how about we do noodles instead with fried vegetables? This is like what pizza toppings. Yeah, exactly. It's like the classic. And then people are just like, okay, we'll do half pepperoni, half mushroom. Done. We're good. Consensus. You're not going to get there with a hundred thousand people it's not going to happen so your your lefty anarchy is very difficult to scale however right anarchy is i've got a bunch of valuable things that i'm willing to trade in

exchange to make you agree with me and give me what i want this is like galt's galt yeah and so then you know ian's like i don't want gluten-free pizza. And I say, Ian, I will give you a bottle of water if you agree with me on this one. And Ian says, bottle of water works for me. But the problem is if you come in with all these gems and baubles and you're like – and then I take a few for myself and say, hey, look, I have some gems and baubles I'm going to sell you. Those are my gems and baubles. So that means you aggressed against me. But how can you prove that?

I can just – under these – So in right anarchy they do believe in property rights right right so property rights i can i can defend my property from you as the aggressor against me who who enforces that i do in an anarchy but what if what if like how what if what if you look out of out of sync what if they believe me and then it doesn't matter i don't know man leave arbitration up to the barrel of to the gun it doesn't make a lot of there's a lot of problems with it but ultimately it's don't aggress against other people so again i'm not an anarchist i think there's it's a bit too utopian and i think what are you saying though is that that's what it would come down to right it would come down to people just saying you know what shootouts yeah it's going to come

down to shootouts and that's what leads to warlords and that what's right what this is why i don't know country in the world has ever tried this yeah i think one of the biggest problems with with uh with end caps is the rise of monopolistic powers what would happen if we had five competing private private police forces you know bought up one by one well so i i call my private police force on ian because i claim he stole bread so the citizen app was talking about this. Yes. Did you see this? So the Citizen app was talking about having this. So you know Citizen app, right?

No. So certain cities. Oh, you don't know. Okay. I totally looked this up. Yeah. So some cities have this where I don't recall if DC has it yet or not, but big cities. And it's just the idea of taking those like police van radios and creating an app that basically recreates that but it's something where hey i you know it's almost like in in the ways you know traffic app

where i saw this crash well instead of that it's hey i saw a break-in hey i saw some crime i saw this you know and sort of next door it you know kind of has this similar as well so citizen is an app where you are allowed to post all of those things as a quote-unquote good citizen. Well, they were going to take that to the next level, and I believe they scuttled the plans. But they were talking about doing a private dispatched police force that you could actually call out through the app if you're the victim of a crime instead of calling the police. So here's what happens. Ian and I get into a fight. People are into it.

So I call my private police force we'll call it uh mick mick police and then ian calls uh his police which is like police king yeah police king and then i'm like he's aggressing on my property and then he answers it's my property and then both our police forces point guns at each other and then they're like well we're now property of kentucky fried police so we're not at we're not able to fight each other at all you know there's a there's an ancapistan meme so ancapistan of course is where the caps live and there's a meme of this where um kentucky fried police yeah where it's it's uh we will we are our if you join this new bank we will provide you cover fire as you go to your atm

free of charge i love love it. All right. Tommy Tampons says, Tim, I think the word you are looking for is silver spoon socialist. They get the spoon from the government they run. Brian Cox says,

Ian, for President 2024, build back with graphene. I think we can make it happen. Yes. Dale Spot says, need to make, quote, who is David Dorn t-shirts and get them out there. That's not bad.

Yeah. Then people would be like, who is David Dorn? Right. Exactly. Fish and Pop says, AOC is a Starbucks socialist. I had a carpool buddy that used to call herself a Starbucks hippie. So not? Sure.

But that's, they always try to claim to be, right? Yeah. All right. This, so, you know, people think they can get me. The first few times they were able to do it. I'm going to read the Super Chat anyway. Okay. Before you do, can I shout out Michael Knowles' new book?

Yes. Speechless. Speechless. Okay, thanks. Yeah, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds. Okay, I'm sorry, but continue with the Super Chat. Oh, okay. So, Jason Q2 says, I'm speechless that Jack bought Michael Malice's new book.

Speaking of speechless, you know what else is speechless? Michael Knoll's book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, available now. Michael Knoll's turned book promo into a meme. Amazing. So that's what I've done with, if you follow my Twitter lately, I've been doing the MyPillow promo. Yes. Right, right, right. So, you know, promo code POSO.

I bought the slippers. Do you like the slippers? I got half off. Are they the best slippers you've ever worn? They're amazing slippers. They. I bought the slippers. Do you like the slippers? I got half off. Are they the best slippers you've ever worn? They're amazing slippers. They actually are really good slippers. Yeah, I was seriously impressed. I thought they'd be all right, but they're like...

That's actually one of the main comments I get from people is they say they get the stuff. And I'm not doing the promo right now or whatever, but it's like they'll say, I bought something because I feel like he's a patriot. I like his but it's like, um, they'll say, you know, I bought something cause I like, you know, I like, I like these, I feel like he's a Patriot. I like his story, like his Christianity, whichever it is. I like where he's standing. That effectively, you know, he's taking the stand for, you know, for the right reasons, I think. And they go, wow, these are really good products.

Actually. I really like these pillows. I like this. So what I've done with the meme is that I've, I've converted like every, you know, like Mia Khalifa tried to dunk on me yesterday and I converted that into like a MyPillow promo. I said, having a rough week? If you want the best sleep.

I saw one of your, I saw something. You convert everything or breaking news, whatever it is. I think you posted about the slippers. And then I realized, I was like, I don't have any slippers for like, if I have to walk out to the mailbox or something, you know, I just. Yeah, you don't want to put shoes on if you're only going out to the mailbox or something. You know, I just. Yeah, you don't want to put shoes on.

It's really going out for a minute. You want my slippers, right? Obviously. And then I was like, I wonder how much it'll cost. And I went to the site. I typed in Poso and I was like, it's not bad. It's like, you know what? I want a quality pair of slippers.

I'm going to have to get some. Now you're making bank off of memeing. That's the secret. The meme economy is real. So there are three books people need to buy. AntifaBook.com. Michael Malice's book as well. Speechless.

Oh, no, excuse me. And Michael Malice's book. And so we should... AntifaBook.com. Is that out right now? That is out right now. Burning up the charts. Should be number one on Amazon.

Oh, yeah. Let's do it, folks. Number uno. So with that being said, make sure you follow us on Facebook and Instagram, while you can, at TimCastIRL. You can help share our videos. You can smash the like button if you

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So just subscribe to the channel. Share it with your friends. And you can follow me personally at TimCast. We mentioned your book but shout it out again, Jack. It's Antifa Stories from Inside the Black Block. AntifaBook.com. You guys can check it out. If you don't want to go to Amazon, we've got a bunch of places where you can find it. But you can also find it on Amazon as well.

And let's get... That book should be number one on Amazon. You know why? Why? Well, first of all, it helps support your work, and you can keep doing reporting on things like this. Oh, yeah. But more importantly, then regular people who don't normally hear about this will go on Amazon, look for a book, and they'll see number one, Antifa book, and lot of people said they like is that I actually put out a timeline of the summer of violence of 2020. Every single incident, date, time, location, this happened, this was the outcome. So when people say, oh, they weren't that bad, boom, this is what happened there. Boom, this is what happened there. Boom. And you've got the whole thing, right?

But you know that number one spot is it's free advertising. Yes, it is. So regular people will just be like, I have not heard this. And they'll look into it, and maybe they'll buy it, and maybe they'll go, whoa. And that's just more ways to spread the message and get the word about what's going on. Were you documenting your time inside the Chaz? Oh, there's a whole chapter on it. There's a whole chapter on Chaz. And it's very sort of like Cinema Veritas where the first thing I noticed was the smells.

I walked up to Cal Anderson Park. And I saw spray paint that said, no gods, no masters. And I knew that I had left the United States for something else. I should read the audio book. I haven't recorded the audio book yet. I'll do one version like normal and I'll do another version like that. Hardcore. Yeah.

The George Guadal ripoff version. You want to shout out your Twitter or whatever? Yeah. Twitter is at Jack Posobiec. I'm now the senior editor of Human Events. So go to Human Events. Check it out for your

greatest news analysis and dissident op-eds before they ban us. So check that out there as well as Instagram. I don't have the Rumble up yet, but maybe at some point we will.

Nice, dude. All right. Well, you guys can follow me at IanCrossland.net and at Ian Crossland on social media. You can also check out some of my music on Amazon Music and Spotify, iTunes. Happy to, you guys can follow me at IanCrossland.net and at Ian Crossland on social media. You can also check out some of my music on Amazon Music and Spotify, iTunes.

Happy to have you guys. Always happy to see people like Jack succeeding. Always happy to get his input on the show. You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids. I have a quest to have more followers and Sour Patch Kids, and I'm getting closer. I'm closing in on them. So please go follow me there. It's fun.

What is the secret war conspiracy theory probably a bunch of nonsense and i'd be i probably is probably the wrong word it's probably it literally is bunk nonsense from a lot of people who believe really crazy things this one is definitely it's just not even it's totally off the wall and it's because these people you know you saw maggie haberman she was like trump's claiming he'll be reinstated right it's resulted in this really crazy parallel universe of people who just make things up but we're going to talk about it we're going to obviously we're not saying it's real it's like augmented fan fiction yeah it's like trump fan fiction yeah it's hilarious that'll be up at that'll be up at timcast.com become a member you'll see it around 11 or so and we'll see y'all there