Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #311 - ENTIRE Portland Riot Police Squad RESIGNS, ITS HAPPENING w/ Michael Malice

Episode Date: June 18, 2021

Tim, Ian, Luke, and Lydia join author, podcaster and commentator Michael Malice to examine ghosts, UFOs, the riot squad of the Portland police department's choice to quit, the continuing saga of the St. Louis gun-toting couple, the New Hampshire Libertarian party, and Michael's new book, "The Anarchist Handbook." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The entire Portland police riot squad has resigned. Apparently, one of these cops struck an activist photographer. I guess the establishment politicians were like, you attacked the press. And they're like, dude, that guy's a rioter pretending to be the press. And I guess the immediate response, and the best response was probably Michael Malice's when he waved his arms in the air like Ron Paul yelling that it was happening. Yeah, it's great.

Me and Luke were very happy to hear this. Christmas. But it is actually, I think you're right. It's a joke when we're like, it's happening. But think about it. It was only a matter of time before the police were like, dude, these people are rioters and the politicians were like, shut up, do as you're told and they said, we quit.

That's big. Well, it's also as someone who is a big proponent of casting aspersions on the police, both as a group and as individuals, part of the reason behind that strategy is that as the cost of anything increases, the cost of a car, the cost of a book, the cost of soda, at a certain point some people are like, I can't afford this book, I can't afford this soda. And for police that's going to be like, why am I putting up with being disrespected if not contempt? Okay, maybe I'm putting up with it because I'm making my neighborhood a better place.

I'm helping my family. Like, I get it. This is politics, and I'm the whipping boy of the moment. Fine. But at a certain point, it's like, wait, wait. I'm going to get treated like crap, and I can't do the base-level job. Like, rioting is, like, something that's unambiguous. This isn't, like, selling Lucy's or jaywalking.

It's like this is 101 cop stuff that I sign up for. So I'm shocked and delighted that they're giving up their pensions. Because, listen, anyone who has a job, I'm going to speak positively about the cops now, honestly. Anyone who has a job in a family, it is really damn hard to be like, I quit. You have to give people credit for walking the walk and talking the talk. It's not all good news, Mr. Mouse. We've got some other stories.

The McCloskeys have agreed to give up their guns. Well, they haven't been deported. So yeah, of course it's not all good news. Oh, right, right. Sure. Well, the McCloskeys are giving up their guns. It's kind of not that big a deal because I guess they're not felons.

They can go buy more. But man, is it screwed up that their guns were taken in the first place? And it's a bad sign, but there are some positives ahead. I think one of the things that Michael Malice will be talking about is the Mises Caucus and Dave Smith

and Press Secretary Michael Malice. So we're going to have a very, very fun conversation around that. I better get some energy. Yes. You make sure you drink up that caffeine. Thanks. Thanks.

He's got pizza as well. And we're going to talk a lot about Michael's also got a book we'll get into. Sir, we're also hanging out with, of course, Luke Kudkowski. So that's a lot of aspartame you got there. And howdy. This is your humble T-shirt vendor with the latest T-shirt that says people will forget your words. People will forget your accomplishments But no one will forget you voted for Joe Biden Which you can exclusively get on

Thebestpoliticalshirts.com And thanks so much for having me I also have a YouTube channel, We Are Change That's right, dude, and I'm Ian Crossland What's up, everybody? Glad to see you Michael, I'm so glad you're back I'm so excited to hear about your book, man I don't know if we'll get

into your experience in North Korea at all tonight, but... Konnichiwa. Thank you very much. That's the wrong language. I speak none of it. Have you been there? To Korea? Yeah. Yes. To North Korea? No. Then you don't know. I wrote the book on it. My great-grandfather is from there. I heard you wrote a tiger. That's right.

That's right. This is an inside... I guess it's an inside joke. People are going to be what are they talking about anyway that's all i had to say i love you too thanks for having me right on we got and i am also here in the corner pushing buttons this is always fun we always have a blast with michael malice i'm really excited that this news is breaking when he's here oh and shouting out to adrian and jesse who are i'm sure in the chat room right on how's going? And I'm going to say one more thing. People always complain about all these different corporations who are subject to wokeism and are scared of getting canceled. Well, this is the positive alternative, which is when you support the outlets that support the creators you like, you're not doing charity.

You're getting something for it and something that's a quality product, and then you can feel good about yourself. So I've got sponsors. You've got sponsors. And I feel just like you. They've been with you for a long time. I feel happy to promote them because they're putting their money where their mouth is, and they're taking a risk to some extent

by supporting someone who, like, if I was tied or one of these horrible conglomerates, I would find radioactive. You pointed all the sodas at me. Well, in that regard, I've got some other news, too. Go to timcast.com, become a member member because you'll get something for your membership. You get exclusive members-only segments, and there will be one, which goes up around 11 p.m. after every show every night.

But you're not just getting access to this wonderful members-only stream. We recently brought on Cassandra Fairbanks to lead our newsroom. Michael Mouse is super excited. Cassandra is fantastic. Yes. Love her. She's getting a monkey. She's getting a monkey. Michael Mouse is super excited. Cassandra's fantastic. Yes. She's getting a monkey. She's getting a monkey. No, no, no. Don't do it. Don't do it. Oh, no, no, no. Cassandra, don't. Don't do it. She's already tweeted out. It's too late.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. She's getting it right now as we're speaking. No, no, no, no. Baby, no. I'm visiting tomorrow. You don't understand. You don't understand. Look, okay. Let's get through this right now. Let's get real. Let's get serious.

I got attacked by monkeys in Thailand before. This is giraffe. Okay. This is hippo. Oh, wow. My mammoths are extinct. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know a lot about zoology and killing animals.

Oh, my. Pat Benatar, the 80s singer who's amazing. I love her. She had an autobiography, and I read it. It was very good. There's one sentence. She grew up in Greenpoint, Brooklyn, which you would know very well. And she goes, when I was in junior high school, we had a monkey.

And I'm talking like Tim now. I'm doing my Tim cadence. There you go. And I'm sitting there reading it as someone who's a co-author of books, and I said, for the ghostwriter whose name is on the cover, I go, if you're interviewing someone to write their book, and they say, oh, we had a monkey, that's a co-author of books and i said oh for the ghost writer whose name is on the cover i go if you're interviewing someone to write their book and they say oh we had a monkey that's a chapter because because every day when pat benatar comes home there's something with this effing monkey like the monkey's getting into places it's it's it's pleasuring itself it's monkeys are not good pets all right it's too late michael she's gotten yeah and on the friends

reunion when david trimmer was asked what was the one thing you liked least about the show he said this monkey wow because i had to interact with it like we do a whole scene and then the monkey just not doing its thing we have to do it from the scratch that's why they got rid of marcel in that show i'm more excited about the monkey now i really oh i was i was actually more excited that cassandra's gonna be writing stories to the website and leading a team and bring people on. This is a big mistake. Dude, she's getting a monkey. It's not.

It's awesome on paper. They're horrible pets. Well, you'll have to talk to her about it. We'll have to put it down. It's too late though. She's gotten the monkey. It's not too late to put it down. Has she named the monkey?

I don't know. Bitey. Actually, I think so. All monkeys are. Bitey. Actually, I think so. I think so. All monkeys are called bitey. But anyway, the point I was going to make was that when you're a member of TimCast.com, the money that goes in from your membership is going towards hiring more journalists. So I just had a call and a conversation with some journalists. We're going to be poaching some journalists from some other companies you know and love because that's the way the market works, I guess.

Good. And we're going to be making sure that we can support these people. So your membership is going to go to make sure that real journalists are getting paid so they can live and they can actually do the good work. And if you saw the bonus segment, yes, I did ask Ivory if she wanted a job. But, you know, we'll see how things play out. I don't want to do, like, a big show where it's like, oh, this journalist is not looking for work. Let me make it a thing. But let me talk something else to build what you just said on.

I know for a lot of people, you remember, I'm sure, there was that piece where brian stelter had some kind of media express i remember where we're on and they were not mentioning you by name but they were specifically complaining like there's these youtube shows that are new shows and their audience is like 10 times the size of ours what are we gonna do about this the point why they're right to be upset even if your show was a tenth the size of brian's or's or 1%, if you're having someone with a different point of view and something that's coherent and comports to reality, that is going to punch way above its numbers

in terms of destroying the corporate media narrative. Because if you have New York Times, blah, blah, blah, it's going to have its stuff and then one person comes along and goes, this story is actually bullcrap. Just like my book on Amazon, it's the same as Barack Obama's book. You just get your own page.

That journalist, its article is going to look on TimCast just like an article in the New York Times. Exactly. And people will be able to make their own informed choices now. Yep. So good for you. We're also going to be hiring fact-checkers to work independently out of a different office. So if someone here writes an article, someone else at a different office who's not in communication will then read the article and then say, let me check this. How much of those – I need a fact- checker for my next book okay good to know

but we're gonna be hiring staff fact checkers i make phone calls they're gonna basically redo the story to make sure on our end we're doing real journalism okay of course there's been a lot of activist groups that are really outraged by cassandra but this is what your membership is getting it's getting people like cassandra for all her feistiness on twitter she's doing great journalism she is amazing. I got some exciting plans. She really is. I'm going to hire the monkey to write for WeAreChanged.org and give it some cigarettes.

And I mean, it's going to be great. What monkey did she get? I forgot what it's called. It's small. They're really small. No, it's not a capuchin. A marmoset? Marmoset.

Oh, yeah. Okay. Those are better. They're like squirrels. They're very small, but they're very erratic. So if people aren't familiar with Cassandra, she writes for Gateway. And I'm not a fan of Gateway at all. Okay.

And because a lot of their articles, it's like sensationalists, like really over the top. Yeah, you don't want to have a video with a big crazy headline, right? But Cassandra, her articles are really straightforward, researched. She calls for comments. She's the best. It's fantastic. So we're going to be bringing that in, and we're going to be bringing more people in. And I think it's great that you're in a position to – not that I'm – I'm just going to spend two hours blowing smoke up your ass, but I mean it.

I think it's great that when you're hiring someone, they're not some milquetoast, I'm not going to name names people on Twitter, but she's a brawler. Oh, yeah. So if they start coming for her, it's not like she's going to be like, let me talk to my editor. She's like, okay, we can do this. And P.S., I have a monkey now. Right. My attitude is like, you know, what I say. I'm not going to name the person who, but you can see it on Twitter.

Started tweeting like some, you know, bold moves by the Beanie Compound or whatever and quoting Cassandra. And I'm like, these activists are engaging in a harassment campaign against my female journalists. Yeah. And I was like, you don't get to. Who's a single mom. single mom yeah exactly you don't get to go on the new york times and complain about journalism and women in journalism specifically exactly exactly anyway this is a really long promo but uh hey timcast.com be a member and help support the expansion because paranormal shows coming next the we've been talking about for a while so we're getting this like this is a really great writer that we're talking to right now his stuff's fantastic and it's like deep academic view and

research into crazy stories and paranormal research none of this ghost hunting like oh i got an evp like i want legit scientific we compared you know control groups i want legit here's the history of the old haunted house and what we found out about it real cool stuff and we're gonna do a podcast and cassandra's gonna be involved in that as well do you want to know the story of number 13 berkeley square yeah what is that let's get started i guess it's a ghost story but it's it's this is my favorite ghost story because i that it reflects it reflects on me personally when i was a kid there was a book of ghost stories i read and they talked about number 13 berkeley square and the point being it was it's a very famous neighborhood very rich neighborhood now there were a couple of

sailors there in like the 1800s. Any port in a storm, they – it was supposed to be haunted. And one guy is like, all right, if you get scared, ring this bell and, you know, whatever. They separate. The guy hears the bell ringing. He goes upstairs to see his friend, and the friend is dead with a look of terror on his face. People who visit the house said the walls were – this is love as an author like interesting phrasing they said the walls were filled with electric horror when i was an adult my favorite author is e nesbitt she's a british

children's novelist um i ordered a manuscript that was ever published and it turned out that it was a bookstore that is number 13 Berkeley Square. I'm like, oh my God, I thought this when I was a kid. He goes, I could give you the tour. That room is like a broom closet. So it's kind of spooky because it's small, but it's not haunted.

But that's the story of number 13 Berkeley Square. Oh, no, is that some guy died? There's something. Well, no, there was a couple of people who died of horror and there was no cause for it. There's something about the electric,

I think it's called the phantom DNA, where they bombard DNA in a vacuum with electrons and then they remove the DNA and the electrons stay there as if the DNA is still there for like two weeks or longer. I mean, and so I think this ghost. Crazy. I love stories like this. Right. So that's the

plan, man. That's awesome. Yeah. So we're going to be having someone who's dedicated to that kind of production. And then we want to make a cool, mystery, spooky, paranormal stuff. Basically, I view it as kind of just like a research into the unknown. You know what I mean? So I'm not – I don't necessarily believe in ghosts. I just say, well, there's interesting stories, but I think all these Ghost Hunter shows just make crap up.

Like there's one exception. So I met the guy who was like the EP on Jesse Ventura's show. Or maybe he was – I don't want to out the guy. I don't remember who it was, but he worked on the show. And I said, how many of these stories are real? He's like, EP on Jesse Ventura's show. Or maybe he was. I don't want to out the guy. I don't remember who it was. But he worked on the show. And I said, how many of these stories are real? He's like, yeah, okay. It's all crap.

But he's like, he came in with an open mind being like, okay, is this real or is it not? And everything was like, okay, this is nothing. He said, Skinwalker Ranch. He goes, I don't know what the hell was going on there, but that stuff is real. So that is like the real Area 51 that people don't know about. It's Skinwalker Ranch. I think they made a show about it now. But this was like five or six years ago. Actually, one of our first segments we ever did on this show was's Skinwalker Ranch. I think they made a show about it now, but this was like five or six years ago.

Actually, one of our first segments we ever did on this show was about Skinwalker Ranch. What is it? Do you know? No, please tell me. I don't know. It's been a long time since we've known the story. It's apparently like this place where they have private air stuff, and no one's allowed near it,

and there's a lot of weird stuff having to do it because there's this one guy who has a Monopoly license that no one else in the country has this is all like playing telephone i'm completely garbling the story people can look it up themselves but there was it's one of those like bohemian grove where there's like lots of questions and surely there's some kind of logical answer but on the face of it it's like this is weird weird stuff i just googled it and there's a breaking news story from two days ago this is is the Elf Collective Consciousness. Alleged UFO sighting at Skinwalker Ranch. Brandon Fugel's eyewitness account on Jessup's journal.

So apparently at Skinwalker Ranch, there's like a bunch of weird sightings, creepy creatures, UFOs and stuff. We have this story from, this is an NBC story. They say, ABC, I'm sorry, this is ABC4. There are some things that can't be explained in this episode of utah success stories you'll see a preview blah blah okay legend has it that supernatural activities occur on a piece of land surrounded by the ute indian reservation is it ute in the unta basin what is a ute is that is that what it is it's my cousin vinnie sorry oh okay

it's you in top oh That's how that's pronounced. I remember that joke. Brandon Fugle bought the land five years ago and brought in a team of scientists to see if the legends were true. What's the thing that he knows now that he didn't know before surprised him the most? I bought the ranch as a skeptic, as a healthy skeptic. I had never seen a UFO, a ghost, or an orb, or anything of the sort in my life, and I disclosed it to the previous owner

fugal claims that he and his team have experienced unexplained phenomena yeah i was surprised at how open he was when he told me those first six months of owning it i really saw nothing myself that would lead me to believe that there was anything unusual well that all changed i had with multiple witnesses with me on occasion where we saw what can only be described as an unidentified flying object a craft a 40 50 foot long silver disc hovering right above the mesa right in front of us. This wasn't just blinking light in the sky or something that was a little bit ambiguous. This was a solid object that appeared out of nowhere and nowhere could move in the blink of an eye and over a 20 second period perform maneuvers that I believe defy any propulsion

physics that propulsion physics that were acquainted with it. So there's a lot of stories like this. I don't know. I actually think this website is meant to just promote something related to a show or something. Sounds like it, but the other thing I want to point out, my dad was, excuse me, my grandfather was an aircraft controller in the Soviet Union. I told this story on the shows. So he was

really high up, and I asked him about UFOs. He goes, we saw this kind of stuff all the time. And the thing people don't appreciate is it's really easy to be like oh this is some guy who was drunk in the middle of the field it's like no no these are professionals who on a day-to-day basis interact with all kinds of aircraft who are doing military so they know what the american capabilities are and american capabilities to this day aren't what these people are saying my grandpa's like we saw this all the time yeah and they're like i'm not saying it's aliens but i'm like he's, it's not nothing.

There's reports of these ever since World War II, so they've been going on for a long time. There's been this media push surrounding China or Russia having advanced military technology, and this is why we need to bolster the military-industrial complex. We've been hearing that talk. But if this has been going on since World War II, there's no way

Russia or China could develop that kind of technology all the way back then. So that theory that the mainstream media is trying to push out there as we're waiting for the disclosure to come out by the Pentagon any freaking day now is absolutely false on many merits. First of all, please don't call the mainstream because you know they're depraved and not part of

the mainstream, they're corporate. And number two is... I want to say some other words but but they won't be family friendly uh my understanding is that after the soviet union fell apart and a lot of these files were declassified there were a lot of documentation in the soviet union where they were like they thought these are american vessels they were seeing because they're like we don't have anything that's like this this must be the americans with the americans have so both sides assumed as the other because they knew okay it's not us it's not our allies. But after World War II, there was a time, a short period where the United States and Russia talked to each other, and they were talking to each other specifically about these unidentified flying objects that are defying the laws of science.

So we even see the diplomatic communications between those two countries saying, hey, is this you? No. Is this you? No. What's going on here? We don't know. And then the Cold War hit its kind of precipice, and then things got severe, and then diplomatic communications stopped, and we don't know and then the cold war hit its kind of precipice and then things got severe and then diplomatic uh communication stopped and uh we don't know what's going on and not to be

all tinfoil hat although i still have alex's at my house uh there is a very concerted effort uh in like corporate media to like don't look outside look at the screens and look at what we're telling you and anything doesn't fit our narrative which is our narrative is we can explain everything for you go to your couch turn on cnn turn on fox whatever we will tell you what the news is and how to think about it since they don't have a narrative here it's going to be really tricky for them so they're like oh it's all crazy people or it's storks storks can't hover yeah and the thing is sorry one more thing to interrupt him the guy who bought this ranch if there's eyewitnesses if there's four of them they know the difference between a stork and a 50-foot object.

Sorry. It's getting weird. Yeah. So a lot of people think this big UFO talk, they're going to release this report, is just a distraction. It's an effort to bolster the military to preempt it. Yeah. Well, it's a distraction from the very serious problems that are happening right now. Like, was it China just flew 28 warplanes into the taiwanese air defense zone which is freaking everybody out the u.s has got a strike group in the area then

russia does war games off hawaii these things would scare people so then what do they do they dangle a ufo and they're like look over here don't look at the war that's that's potentially on the verge of breaking out look at the ufo in the sky and oh the report's coming out obama comes out and says it but it'll be interesting because it is weird yeah the first thing Bill Clinton did when he came to the White House he says to Webb Hubble find out what happened with JFK and what's going on with UFOs and then when he found out that his face

just turned pale or was he like laughing he got introduced to Jeffrey Epstein he's like hey here's why they don't talk about the UFOs yeah you go up to a UFO but you come down a rapist that's right no one wants that I wonder if it's corporations Here's why they don't talk about the UFOs. Yeah, you go up to a UFO, but you come down a rapist. That's right. No one wants that. Well, apparently a few people do.

I wonder if it's corporations. What were you going to say? There was a big article by Newsweek today that actually talked about Bill Clinton's relationship with Mr. Jeffrey Epstein and how it was obfuscated with Prince Andrew and how the whole Prince Andrew saga, according to a journalist that works on the royal family, specifically very closely together, that the whole thing that happened with Prince Andrew was just a distraction, so no one would pay attention to the larger, bigger, and longer relationship that Bill Clinton had to Epstein. I am really impressed how we went from your ghost story to Skinwalker Ranch to UFOs to Epstein.

It's like an amazing segue here. And this is Newsweek reporting this today, which is absolutely surprising that finally this is breaking in the mainstream and this is widely talked about. And I find it absolutely important because when you really look at the true realms of what has been going on behind the scenes of government and now these people are saying, trust us, we're going to tell you what happens with these aliens. There should be a lot of skepticism i got at least i have an absolutely amazing conspiracy theory that i was reading uh the other day it was on like reddit it was like it started with a 4chan post i know i know i know it had a baby it's amazing i love it it's like it's this absolutely ridiculous 4chan post where someone's claiming a bunch of things about viruses merging with human DNA thousands of years ago and what's really happening with the UFOs and what's going on. But I can't talk about it because YouTube, it includes some of the taboo subjects.

So as we'll do, we'll save it for the bonus segment. Dude, it's like the most ridiculous, insane garbage I've ever read. However, it would make an awesome movie like the secret wars with trump and like what's really happening with the aliens and like it's uh i guess i would call it chicken coop theory what's that mean that the earth is a chicken coop for aliens it's a great theory oh yeah yeah i've heard that and that's the ufos are just basically like you know when when I go out and I'm wearing my boots and I'm like throwing feed into the chicken area and the chickens are like, what's happening? There's a giant thing here.

What is it? That's how we are with these aliens. But I can't talk about it because it includes some medical stuff. And when they come straight at us, we can't see them. So we have to turn our head to see them sideways. But that's why people only see like flashes of light and things they can't necessarily. Or it's multidimensional. Because they keep coming straight at us.

It's a different dimension, like Alex was saying. But we'll do a big bonus segment on this. We'll have a lot of fun with it. Let's jump into the actual like main news. And then we got a lot to talk about. So this story is the it's happening. From the Daily Mail, Portland police's entire riot squad resigns after cop was indicted for striking activist photographer who they insist was a rioter with baton during violent protest saw government building set a government building set alight. indictment on Tuesday of a member of member Corey Budworth. Budworth was charged with assault related to an August 18th from 20 incident in which he allegedly struck a photographer, Terry

Jacobs, with a baton. The police union said the officers were set upon by 200 protesters and that Budworth had accidentally hit Jacobs in the head. They have also claimed Jacobs was part of the riot. She was not charged with any crime and was awarded a $50,000 settlement by the city of Portland over the incident. Despite the resignation, the officers would remain employed by the Portland Police Department. It's not clear how this will affect the department's ability to respond to riots. You know, I really love how they say it's the riot squad responding to protests. Yeah.

Can we just say the riot squad responds to riots? Yeah, yeah. I guess they do respond to protests, too. So they're not quitting the entire department. They just are refusing to go out during riots anymore but and here's another thing in their defense is that you see in a lot of these places they arrest people and then it's just a revolving door the prosecutors aren't gonna do anything and explicitly so so then it's like wait wait i gotta get in the middle of this drama i'm people are gonna be throwing whatever at me uh everyone's going to hate me i'm'm going to arrest this person. The person's going to be like, just walk right out the

door. At the very least, why am I putting in all this effort? It's worse than that now. And this is what I love about it. I've been going on... People were tweeting at you because I said abolish the police. They were like, Michael, you've done such great work with Tim. That's true. But my reason for abolish the police is not

the same as yours, I think. Okay. Although I do think definitely the conversations we've had have been influential to my opinions as well. I think the reason they should be leaving is because they can't do their jobs functionally anymore. I agree. So we agree, but I think you're more of the anarchist, the police are bad across the board. I definitely agree with you on the gun thing for sure. That was like a good a good argument but what we're seeing now is not only will the police

if they arrest someone nothing happens to that person they're actually arresting the cops now that's amazing imagine the kind of feckless pathetic spineless jellyfish cop you'd have to be to turn around and arrest your own cop who was doing literally what the what the city told him to do well that guy's a hero because that means that those cops who are enforcing unsocial law should be arrested right so those are the good guys so then what happens is one by one they'll start arresting each other i i mean i don't i don't know what one by one but in all seriousness like yeah i obviously i'm no friend of the police and i always say and i will defend that every cop is a criminal but at a certain point it's just like you feel i'm sure the vast majority of people who are police officers feel all right it's a tough job someone's got to do it and i'm really helping people i'm stopping murders i'm stopping rapists

like little kids are not getting snatched yeah it sucks but someone's got to do it i'm doing a good job of it at a certain point if in any gig like if you had ian and you're like, Ian, you can only talk for 30 seconds every hour. It's at a certain point. It's like, why am I even here? Like, what am I doing here? Right. So it's the same thing. It's like I have this job and I have my fantasy or my ideal version of what it's going to be.

And my boss is not only not allowing me to do it, but it's taking steps to prevent me to do it. It's just like, how much respect do you have for me? I'm getting crapped on by the people on the street. I'm getting crapped down by my boss and my colleagues. How am I going to have dignity for my home? Let's take it one step further. Please, let's take it as many as possible. Here's what I mean.

Let's say Luke's joined us on the show. He comes in periodically. Imagine if I said, here's the only things you're allowed to talk about. Make it really, really difficult for him. And then he actually does what i tell him to do and i get mad because it just for some reason caused me a problem so i lock him in the basement and you public no no that's that's insane and publicly denounce him that's no no no i'm serious because i know these cops names are public so that means they're no they're known in the by all their neighborhood that I got arrested for doing my job.

That's not going to feel nice. Well, how dare you equate me to a cop, first of all. Second of all, the police union chief had a very interesting comment. He said our RT members do not volunteer to have Molotov cocktails, fireworks, explosives, rocks, bottles, urine, feces, and other dangerous objects thrown at them. Yes, they do. He noted that the team members volunteer for the work without any specific pay so these members are stepping down out of this response unit the mayor uh wheeler asked him please don't do this don't do this and and then

the police responded well too bad we're doing this anyway uh after of course all the you know major political decisions that have been happening in portland now here's here's the best part imagine um i ask luke to come on the Portland. Now, here's the best part. Imagine I ask Luke to come on the show. I then say, here's the only things you're allowed to say. Then, even when he just does what I asked, I publicly denounce him. Luke, instead of quitting the show, says, well, I won't talk about foreign policy anymore. And he keeps coming to the show.

These cops, they're resigning from the riot squad. Right. keeps coming to the show these cops they're resigning from the riot squad right and they're staying with the city staying under the boot of the corrupt system that's literally trying to put a cop in jail because they sent him out at a riot i was trying to talk nice about the cops you're making it harder oh no i i won't have it man i've been saying for a while you know that woman um in minnesota she shot the the guy he was he was was a wanted felon for a gun charge or armed robbery. What was her name? Kimberly Potter. Yeah, this was during the Chauvin trial. She was going for a taser, and then she pulled her gun in an accident.

She shoots the guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I said, good. Prison. Right to prison. Negligence.

Yeah. Well, there's two things. One is you are responsible for anything that comes out of your gun period however if she actually shot him she would have been justified not that i'm happy that it happened it's a sad tragic story but he was a wanted fugitive who had a gun and jumped in his car the point is as i've described it the people of minnesota the officers and of portland are standing inside a burning building. Yeah. We've warned them repeatedly to get out. And in response to a giant beam smacking one of the cops in the head, they go, well, we'll stand in the kitchen instead of the living room. It's like, maybe just get out,

dude. I've got a lot of messages from cops who have said they were there. They're the cops that I refer to as the good cops who got out when they saw how bad it was getting. And these are the cops who want to save a little kid from getting kidnapped. These are the cops who want to stop the drug dealers from destroying our neighborhoods. These are the cops who want to make sure the crime isn't skyrocketing in New York City, but they can't do it anymore. They're getting targeted. They're getting arrested. So they're quitting. And even in the military, there's similar things happening with locals.

I saw your face, Michael, and I agree with you. Because if we look at policing the last few months, what have they been doing? They've been arresting religious pastors. They have been arresting private businesses. They have been enforcing unconstitutional, illegal decrees of politicians and destroying people's livelihoods while protecting the billionaire class. The NYPD, the Florida Police Department, prosecutors, judges, the FBI, intelligence agencies all looked the other way for 30 years when it came to children being hurt in the most unspeakable ways with Mr. Epstein. So there's a lot of discontent to bring up there,

especially with what's happening in Canada right now, where there was a horrible video of a pastor being arrested in front of his children. Maxine Bernay was just arrested for hosting a political rally. Right now the police in Canada are absolutely out of control. And I do believe we need to strike a balance, but we need to have an honest conversation that's not just one-sided on the issue. There have been a lot of problems with cops for a very, very long time.

But let's just keep in mind, the stuff we're seeing over the past year and into now, a lot of the cops you'd probably like have left. I was looking at my phone because a cop messaged me, and he said, because of your work i'm quitting the force and i'm mailing you my badge and i'm going to private security and i wanted to give him a shout out which maybe i'll look for it later but it's very kind of moving that i even for one person that he's like okay i i at the very least even if you're going to stay

in the force acknowledge what it is that you're doing. Like I can even wrap my head around, okay, I'm violating the Constitution and I'm disarming people, but it's for greater good. Fine. Like I could wrap my head around that. I told this story before. When I went and was getting my first gun, the gun shop in Jersey said they had a big problem where a woman – so if you live in the South Jersey area, you're 10 minutes from Philadelphia. You cross the bridge. You're in Philadelphia. In Pennsylvania, you're allowed to bear arms

really great good law is not perfect well a woman was armed legally and she was going to Atlantic City didn't look up the laws of New Jersey, she made that mistake cop actually arrested her on a felony charge it's like, why would the cop do that? why wouldn't the cop say, ma'am

you are not allowed to have this weapon here in New Jersey I'm going to escort you back to the bridge you made a mistake i understand please leave take your gun home to where it's legal for you to keep come back to my state without that weapon instead he's just like oh boy i got one you're going to prison lady i'm thinking about what you said about abolish the police i'm wondering and correct me if i'm wrong if what you're what you're really saying, so what you're saying is. Got one out. Did you see? I did.

I loved every minute of it. I'm Kathy Newman, Jordan Peterson himself. Shout out to Kathy. But you're suggesting that police boycott the department or strike on the department if it's corrupt. Yes. Not abolish the entire system of policing. So it's a little bit more nuanced, but that is just the point. The other thing I'm saying is if the police force is becoming more and more corrupt, and some would argue, especially Black Lives Matter and Antifa and even ANCAP's anarchists on the right of any capacity, that they've been corrupt for a very, very long time, notably Michael. I don't like that word corrupt here because I think they're not being dishonest.

I think they're just being forced through politics to do things in a certain way. So I'll put it this way. If the police are no longer serving the interests of the public, let's do that. Yeah. Then why would I want to fund something that causes harm to good people? If you're a cop and you want a better society to be a hero to help, then you need to reconcile one very important circumstance. Black lives matter and antifa have been smashing up buildings and destroying setting fires and these people are not going to jail but if i choose to keep in bare arms in some ridiculous twisted rule come if it comes into play the cops will arrest me for that so if you look at chicago for example and mandatory minimums often

right so it's not like you're going to get off that. It's like, oh, it's your first time. It's an innocent mistake. It's like that judge has to sentence you often. Yep. So this is the law. So the cops need to understand, even if I've had cops messaging me saying, look, we just arrest lawbreakers. It's the, it's the DAs you're mad at. And I said, no, if you personally know this, and you do because you're emailing me and you watch the show that the district attorneys, you are good. If you know that if you arrest one Antifa and one conservative and send them both the D.A. and the D.A. laughs and sends the Antifa on his way and then welcomes the conservative into prison for bearing arms, you are the one delivering people

to prison. And you can and the officers can make the choice to say, like I said with the New Jersey lady, look, lady, ma'am, you got a good cop right here. I'm going to escort you back to the bridge. It's a 10 minute drive. You're going to go home. You're going to leave that gun. Otherwise, some other state trooper is going to lock you up. And I don't want to see that happen. No, he didn't. He just said, ma'am, you're under arrest. The story was he pulls her over and she did the right thing. Officer, I am armed. I just want to let you know. And he goes, right away, ma'am. Please step out of the vehicle.

She gets up. Put your hands behind your back. Is something wrong, ma'am? Quiet. Hands behind your back. Arrest her. You're under arrest. It's illegal.

It's a felony to carry that weapon in New Jersey. That's it. And she freaks out. She's panicked. Some middle-aged woman going to go to the casino and have a good time. Broke no laws. Was legally bearing, I should say constitutionally bearing her arm. in new jersey they say it's statutorily illegal and the cop had no problem sending a middle-aged woman into the prison system fortunately however traumatic

the nra apparently got involved and then made a big stink and the da dropped the charges and told her not to do it again but they don't do that for people in inner city chicago for young black men who want to protect themselves because there's gang violence. I got no sympathy for somebody who wants to join gang violence. What about the old black ladies

who are going to be left in New York City when everyone moves out and who are in the projects who can't afford to move? Absolutely. Lauren Chen, who you guys have had on,

who I adore, you know sometimes someone just says one sentence that kind of just light bulbs you and just rattles you for a long time. She's the best. She was on my show

when I was hers, I remember, and she was having an issue in canada because her dad had cancer yes and for like a year he couldn't even get like a scan it was something absolutely crazy and she just goes why am i funding my own oppression and i was like holy like you like lauren you like nailed it and it's the kind of thing where it's just like yeah why am i paying these high taxes in these cities so that the cops can leave me unsafe in my own home where i can't have a gun to protect myself which is my god-given constitutional right and none of your business right that's it i mean while you guys are ginning up as much unrest and burn it all down as possible at the same time so so my my issue is i'm in new jersey i had a cop actually tell

me to go buy a gun because someone tried breaking in and then i looked up the law and they're like if the guy did break in and you did shoot him you go to prison yeah welcome yeah and i'm like what he broke into my house though and like we should have left like where am i supposed to go it's my house it's a big house like am i so no no this is back in jersey it was small house okay yeah small yeah it was all K-sized. I'm kidding. It's a five-bedroom. But am I supposed to just go jump my fence in my backyard and go stand in the middle of the street in my underwear?

You're supposed to die and be a statistic. And then they could say, look, we're fighting gun violence at an all-time high. We need more cops. Right. That's what Lori Lightfoot is doing right now. Her emails were also leaked recently. And people are finding out the true picture of who she really was. But places like Chicago and New York City have absolutely atrocious self-defense laws where even if you get attacked first, you defend yourself, you cause any mark or harm to the perpetrator, you go to jail. No matter what the situation, no matter what the circumstance. And these officers don't care let me tell you about what i think one of the biggest problems is sure i will always lay the blame at the feet of the perpetrator if a woman is wearing you know she's scantily clad clothing and walks through an alley and someone attacks her she wasn't asking for it the perpetrator the criminal is is it is who should be punished who

should be blamed etc but there is personal responsibility involved you need to be aware of your own surroundings you need to take some responsibility So I don't think it's a one for one like when the left says, oh, people should be allowed to be drunkenly wandering around. Like I'm not going to go to an ATM at three in the morning. All right. So I'll blame the gun control left and many of these Democrats in these big cities who push for these things. And now I'm going to lay some blame at the feet of conservatives who refuse to fight back. We had the story St. Louis gun waving couple plead guilty to misdemeanor charges. And now I'm going to lay some blame at the feet of conservatives who refuse to fight back. We had this story.

St. Louis gun-waving couple plead guilty to misdemeanor charges. Part of their plea is that they will be giving up their weapons. They say Mark and Patricia McCloskey, who waved guns at protesters last year, who marched past their home, pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanors and agreed to give up their weapons. Mark McCloskey will pay a $750 fine after pleading guilty to fourth-degree assault, a class C misdemeanors and agreed to give up their weapons. Mark McCloskey will pay a $750 fine after pleading guilty to fourth degree assault, a class C misdemeanor. Patricia, 62, must pay a $2,000 fine after pleading guilty to second degree harassment, a class A misdemeanor. Mark McCloskey could have faced up to 15 days in jail.

Patricia could have spent up to a year behind bars. Neither will face jail time. Do not vote for these people. Isn't the guy running for office or something? He's running for U.S. Senate, and he just tweeted, don't worry, I have more guns to protect my family, where that came from, hashtag 2A. Do not vote for this man. He is a spineless coward.

Wait, wait, why is he spineless? When the cops came to take his guns away, he took a picture of them from behind and said, I don't want anyone to think bad of these cops who are confiscating our weapons. Oh, I didn't know that. That's right. Oh, holy crap.

Now he's dropping to his knees, scared of the state coming for him, giving up his weapons. But I have more. I don't care. Dude, get out of here. Should have fought the legal battle. You cannot. Wait, come on. You can't advise someone to be a martyr.

I would not feel comfortable taking on the state when there's this whole public frothing at the mouth mob. I'm being made a political victim. I do it. Maybe you would. But I don't think he's a coward for being like, I got a family. They've got me dead to rights because they can write the law, whatever they want. And it's going to cost me millions of dollars.

And the government can tax me to pay for them. I can't. I think I think his comments are interesting. And I think I think they provide us context here. He said, quote, on his Twitter account. I'm bringing this from his account, quote, Let me be clear. I am not surrendering any of my firearms. I will continue to be one of the strongest advocates for the Second Amendment and around the country.

The two weapons that were seized from me were evidence in a criminal case. Per the state of MO, they are to be incinerated. So this is what the state... What? Yeah. No, it doesn't make any sense. The state is incinerating his weapons, but he gets to have other weapons. If something's evidence, you return it to the person or you keep it, as sense puts possibly.

But I guess this was a part of their plea deal that they agreed to. It's like a circus. It's like they're doing this to entertain the masses. They're like, look what we did. Do you like this sound? When the cops came, they took a photo of the cops taking their guns, but from behind and said, we don't want to reveal the identities of the officers because we don't want people coming after him, whatever. And I was like, that's pathetic. The cops could have said no.

The cops could have said, we do not agree with this and we will not enforce unjust laws. These these these Black Lives Matter individuals broke onto private property. And we even saw, was it the AG of Missouri say that they may as well have been in their living room. It was a private lot. It was a private property. The whole block was privately owned. They could have defended themselves. Now, don't get me wrong.

I think them coming out and her waving the gun was very dumb. I'm not a fan of that either. They could have been very scared. We don't know what that's like. She didn't have a good trigger discipline at all as well. She was literally having her finger on the trigger pointing the gun at her husband's head. There was also they said the firing pin was

reversed and the gun was inoperable. There's two guns. There was the AR-15. And what looked like a revolver. No, it wasn't a revolver. I don't remember what it was. It was a small handgun. They claimed that the firing pin was reversed and the gun was inoperable.

When it was brought in to the DA for evidence, they disassembled and reassembled it and then said, oh, it works. So a lot of people were coming out and saying the state altered the evidence to claim it was a functioning device when the mccloskey said they had used it in a criminal trial before as evidence and so the firing pin was reversed maybe they're lying maybe they went inside and immediately took it apart and did it i'm not going to accuse them of that and i don't think the state has any evidence they did that they just claimed that well upon taking it apart and putting it back together we found it was functional these people should have absolutely said no. They should have said, I will see you in court.

If no one will stand up to the system, the system will always win, always. I completely disagree with you. I think when you don't know someone's personal circumstances, it's really easy to tell them, fight. But this is the state. I'm sorry. I think at a certain point some people, like, discretion is a better form of valor. And I would love, me of all people, for F's sake, would love it if more people defied the state and stood up to it.

But at a certain point you're like, okay, look at Duncan Lemp, what happened with him. They shot and killed him at 3 in the morning through the window, and they dragged his pregnant girlfriend through the broken glass and blighted her up. So you're telling me that it's not that it's impossible that the next time that they're going to make sure Antifa goes by his house and the cops are

just going to take 911, put it on take the phone off the hook and let nature take its course? What do you mean? Meaning like this kind of things happen all the time. When someone is an enemy to the state state they look the other way and make sure that person gets taken care of yeah so i mean when you're saying like you should fight the state you're asking to really take their life into their own hands now i can understand how someone would do that but it's also really easy for me to choose to understand if someone would want to not do that do you know

what would happen if right now in Chicago, every single person facing trial, facing an indictment or a criminal charge, asked for a jury trial? They would get charged with higher charges. Not true. If in Chicago,

every single person awaiting an arraignment or whatever, a charge of the crime, said jury trial, they would all instantly be dismissed. I don't understand that. Explain that to me explain because the city doesn't have the capability to handle that many trials at once so what what wait wait okay here's the two i i don't agree with you because what happens is when places don't have resources they're just going to keep you in jail longer i know friends who have been in jail for so long because of the covid regulations and even

covid has stopped the court proceedings and what they did is just keep people in jail for so long because of the covid regulations and even covid has stopped the court proceedings and what they did is just keep people in jail longer so i'll tell you this i gotta ask you you're saying that if everyone who's arrested right now in chicago said i demand a jury trial the chicago legal systems you'd be like we can't do this you're all going home uh most of them probably would be dismissed yes so when uh i ended up getting charged with i think a class c misdemeanor my brother got a class a they threat a the worst or the easiest uh actually i don't i don't know if a is the worst i think you got it was i think it was a b okay i was facing 30 days my brother was facing uh six months oh wow and the uh it was like six months of going to trial because long story

short some security guards in a mall falsely accused us. And when they realized that they got the wrong guys in a shoplifting, they thought someone was shoplifting. They just lied to the cops. The cops just said whatever you say and arrested us and charged us with assault and disorderly conduct. They said they will give us the maximum penalty. They said you will plead guilty and you will take what we give you. And at first what happened was my brother, fearing six months, said I'll just plead guilty and you will take what we give you and at first what happened was my brother fearing six months said i'll just plead guilty what what will you have me do he said we're going

to give you community service and then i said 30 days i'll go to trial this will this will be fun when the prosecutor heard that i said i wanted to go to trial over a slap on the wrist they would give me community service she audibly screamed in the courtroom it shocked what and then the judge had to tell her to chill out our lawyer walks back over to us and he and and my brother is like why is she yelling what happened well when when she found out that you he's like to me being charged with like a slap on the wrist level crime wanted a jury trial do you understand how much work that is for them so she's she's kind of mad yeah my brother goes effer i'm going to i want a trial now too and he goes you're sure he goes yep jury trial and he goes okay he walks back over and we see him go up to the to the prosecution of the judge and we hear her scream again and the judge starts saying calm

down and then they talk for a little bit the Our lawyer walks back over to us and says, the judge wants to see you in his chambers. And the judge said, what is going on? And we said, America, what happened? And he goes, here's what's going to happen. I don't want to hear any lawsuits. I want this all to go away. The charges are being dismissed. You're free to go.

Is that it? And we were like, yes, you're on. He goes, have a nice day. We asked the lawyer what happened and the judge when he found out that my brother changed his mind and wanted a jury trial on a slap on the wrist charge courts it was it was a court we get court supervision and and community service nothing right when the judge heard that and he said to the lawyer what why are your clients now trying to get a trial out of this it's's 5 o'clock. We want to go home. And he went, your honor, because they're innocent.

And he went, oh, case dismissed in my chambers. And then he got up and walked in. The problem is too many people just say, well. Because they're advised to by the public defender. We were told to by our lawyer. He said, guys, this is what's going to happen. You're going to get community service. It's all going to be over.

You're going to go home and play video games. And you don't even got to do anything. Get one of your, your dad's a firefighter. Ask him to sign the papers. You're done. And I said, no. I want a jury to hear what happened when they accused me of shoplifting, beat the crap out of me and my brother when we did nothing wrong. And I'm going to stand up there with conviction and say I refuse to be beaten down by lying security guards who use the state because they screwed up. And we won because of it.

Too many people are just scared. I would gladly. I know it was just 30 days. They could have been facing a felony. But I would gladly. And you didn't have families. And she actually pointed a gun at people. And she's.

Like isn't that brandishing a weapon? That's just me, dude. But I'm hot-headed. They're going to make sure that jury is going to be filled with people who saw her brandishing that weapon. Let me just make – oh, go ahead, Luke. Well, I'm very happy you brought up Duncan Lamp. But in Missouri, the attorney general was one of the attorney general's influence and sponsored by George Soros. She had a proverbial hard-on for these people.

The police officers at first said, we're not going to listen to these. The DA? Yeah, yeah. The DA in Missouri was specifically going after them. Police officers at first said that they wouldn't comply, but then officially they complied later on through a little bit of protest.

So that's important context here as well. Sorry, go ahead. And can I give people some legal background? Yeah. Speaking hypothetically, because I'm not a lawyer and I'm positioned to discuss this in a legal context, but hypothetically it's a fairy tale. If you happen to be on a grand jury, here's how grand juries work, right? It's going to be like 25 people. They're going to bring you – the DA is going to bring you some evidence.

And that evidence is not there to get a conviction all that evidence has to do is to say in the eyes of the grand jury there is enough evidence here to pursue charges meaning it's not nothing it's something and and the the joke is that any good da can get you to indict a ham sandwich this is basically a formality maybe the founding fathers era whatever that said most people hypothetically, tend to be in want of a leader. Like they're in that room. They don't know what's going on. They want to do the right thing. They don't know what that is.

The only guidance they're getting is from that junior DA. So they're going to come in and they're going to cop, hypothetically, and say, oh, we found this leafy substance in this guy's house, and now this 18-year-old kid is going to be thrown in jail, possibly with rapists and murderers. His entire life is ambiguous up until he gets charged or not. If you are in that grand jury and you say, hey, guys, there's nothing holding us to return what they call a true bill, which means he's indicted, we can just vote no and ignore the evidence. And someone could say, listen, we're here. We have a responsibility. Do you really want to ruin this kid's life because he had a lot of weed in his house and was probably selling it? Just think about everyone you know who's ever done weed. Do you think they should go to jail? Think about what jail means.

It's not like I can't go to my job. It's like I'm locked in a little room with people that I know kill children, rape women repeatedly. And what will happen, hypothetically speaking, is that those jurors, now they've been given permission to do the right thing, be like, why am I ruining this kid's life? I know people who smoke weed. I don't think they should be going to jail. Maybe they shouldn't be doing the right thing. And that DA will come back and say, how did you guys say? And they'll say all charts been dropped and they will not be able to ask you why and they're just going to be very very confused

because this hasn't happened but you will have been in a position to save some kids life and he will never know who did it or why but he'll be very grateful and you can go to sleep that you made the world a better place there's also jury nullification that is during notification well yeah so but you could be on an actual criminal proceeding. Right. So in the grand jury, yes. If you are actually sitting on a jury and they say this guy had weed or something and you don't think they should be in prison for it, you can say not guilty.

And they're like, but the evidence, it's like the cops found it. They presented it. He admitted it was his. Yeah, not guilty. I strongly recommend people look into jury nullification, and whenever you get a jury notice, don't see it as something negative. See it as an opportunity to provide services to the

community that could actually help people. And I just want to make a quick correction. The Missouri Attorney General actually filed to dismiss the charges, but it was Prosecutor Kim Gardner that was the one that was strongly going after them. And I will also add, the governor said that he wanted to pardon the gun-toting couple. So what happened to a trial?

And that he would pardon them. He announced that he would pardon and drop all the charges. They should have fought every step of the way. And you know what? This is the – look, I hear what you're saying. But if the leaders we have are the ones willing to drop the knee to the enemy combatants, then – These aren't leaders. These are just two old people.

Sure. They're not leaders. Then there's no cohesive resistance. There is cohesive. Cohesive resistance doesn't have to be unanimous. Tim, I just think it's really, really easy for us to sit here and tell people we've never met. People tell you what you should be doing all the time. I'm sure you don't like it.

I mean, in what context? Like online, they're like, oh, your show should be like this. Your show should be like that, so on and so forth. You don't know me. Thank you for your opinion. So we don't know this couple. We don't know. Maybe she's got some kind of illness.

I don't know. Yeah, perhaps. I'm just, like I said, maybe a little bit more hot-headed. Like I mentioned. It could be my Soviet blood. So my Soviet DNA is like, once the state has gotten you in the eye of Sauron, do whatever you can to get out of the eye of Sauron.

Get out fully as much as you can. My family fled communism in Poland. Of course. Because it was just getting too crazy. Right, right, right. That I understand. That I understand. The issue I take here is that... I'm sorry to interrupt you, but it sounds like you're saying the system works, and just because it worked for you guys guys i don't know that it's at all a guarantee that's going to work for these two when you're a 63 year old woman to go to jail the system didn't

work for us but you got off it was it was clear the only reason we did was because the system didn't want to deal with two jury trials sure but the point is that's how broken it was the point is you you managed to get the result that you wanted. Here's the issue I take with this for the most part. Certainly I understand there are circumstances where a strategic retreat makes sense. It would be dumb if you're like, I'm by myself and there's 500 people in front of me, but I'm charging it anyway. That's really dumb. They had the support of the right.

They had the support of the governor. They had the support of the state AG. I didn't know that. They could have won this. They could have won this. They could have been convicted. And then the governor could have made a statement saying, I refuse to allow this in my state. Unconditional pardon. He could have done it.

For whatever reason, they had no faith. So they decided just to get out with what they could. Give their weapons up the entire, you know. I would not put my freedom in the hands of a governor, no matter what said publicly at any time because that word is worth nothing to me and he would throw me under the bus in two seconds it would help his re-election yeah probably and i think therein lies a big part of the problem and the frustration i have is that the left absolutely will do everything in their power to win kamala harris will publicly solicit donations to get criminals and rioters out of prison, and the right can't even rely on their own to support them. Correct. Yeah. It's frustrating.

I wanted to point out, I think maybe there is a time and a place to bend the knee when the villain's like on your knee, and then you go down on your knee and he walks up to you and you're like, yeah! And you do like a giant uppercut. One of the things I'm talking about in my next book, The White Pill, which is a lot about the Soviet Union, is I don't think people in this country, I know people in this country, and I have no doubt Luke and you, and you all back me up, are completely oblivious to what the state can do to people to get them to bend the knee. It's not like good combat.

Why are you making that face? You said we're oblivious to it? I think a lot of Americans are oblivious to it. Oh, you're saying not us. Not us. I'm not saying not the people in oblivious to it? I think a lot of Americans are oblivious to it. Oh, you're saying not us. Not us. I'm not saying not the people in this room, but I'm saying a lot of Americans. Like I had a – when Castro died, right, and there was all these laudatory obituaries about him. And I'm like, you know, in a way it's kind of good that you guys have no idea what this is like, that you think like, oh, he's basically like a liberal Democrat or like a Trump figure.

Like you have no clue. And I want a world in a sense where people like I kind of get that hypothetically, but I can't imagine this being reality. So I can appreciate that. So the things that the Soviets did to break these people, they haven't come over here yet. But one of the things they always do, like they'll arrest people on a Friday night and they want them to squeal. They're in jail till Monday. And it's like, I'll need to break one of you. And the offer is good for that one person. So who's it going to be?

Monday morning, they're banging that door. You can't blame them. Yeah. My favorite is seeing people wear Czech Guevara shirts and understanding that history and context. And you're absolutely right. I had family members that were tortured by the government under a communist regime. And when you wake up to that reality, when you speak to your family, when you hear the stories, when so much knowledge is passed on to you, which barely happened. The United States had it too good for too long.

And I think now we're finally dealing with a lot of the larger ramifications of what happens when things are too good. You know, the CIA didn't know how to torture people to get most of it. They had to use KGB manuals. We didn't have any background. Yes. Interesting. Look this up. Double check that.

Maybe I'm talking on my own butt. But just double check me. But I'm 99% sure that's the case. I suppose the issue I have right now is that there's – Wait. I got to say one more thing. Tim, don't you think – maybe it's not literal torture. It's not literal torture.

But if you're like a senior citizen close to it and you're in prison over a weekend that's gonna really do a huge number on you psychologically come on i mean i was in jail for a few days for for doing journalism and reporting and it takes a toll on you you definitely don't want to be in there and then you to know your wife is somewhere in this building separated from you and you know like i hope she's okay and but you know how she is and she doesn't even know how to hold a gun correctly. Tim, that's scary. And trauma makes people make very conflict-averse decisions. I guess I'm just different. I think the larger lesson here.

I'm hot-headed. Yeah. I think the larger – I don't know if I can explain it. I've been in conflict situations where my life was at risk and I've returned to those situations. And perhaps it's because I don't have children maybe. Sure. situations and perhaps it's because i don't have children maybe uh when i was in brazil i went to the was it called ciudad do policia the city of police the police city it's like their big

compound and we had plainclothes cops basically walk up to us take us in take our phones shut them off they brought us into this back area into this closed no window and with the couch and i the first thing i did as soon as they started taking us, before they took our phones, because I texted, this was when I was at Vice, like we're being taken by Brazilian secret police or something, undercovers, and I don't know where they're bringing us, but just so you know, here we are.

Then they took our phones, shut them off. They brought us in this back room, and I started laughing. I was like, so this is where we get beaten up and tortured? And they held us there, started interrogating us, and then after about a half an hour, someone ran in, panicked in Portuguese, and they brought us back out and apologized. So experiencing that and then not the end of the world, but certainly being brought through this complex and then being brought into this back room, not knowing what to expect or where they're bringing us and also uh i i've also written vehicles with i don't know how to describe individuals like violent extremists and revolutionaries armed with guns i was i was in charlottesville i i mean i i know what you're talking about this this stuff gets scary really

quick but i i returned to those places uh not the same specific ones that that have actually spoken out against but like experiencing venezuela where i was accused of being a spy and forced to flee the country and then having the venezueluelan someone hack my friend's Facebook to send me fake messages to get me to make phone calls, then to just go back into Thailand. You know, I understand, like, I'm not going to return to Venezuela. I can't. I can't go to Thailand. But I would go initially constantly facing that danger. I'm well aware of what it means to stand up and fight. And I'm well aware that you must

plant the trees whose shade you know you'll never sit beneath if you want a society to grow great. That means for me personally, strategy is involved, right? So when it comes to censorship on YouTube, one of the biggest criticisms we get is, Tim, why won't you just say it? Well, I'm not going to get the whole show banned and our opportunity to speak the truth by saying one thing, but that's why we're building a website. We had to be strategic about it. So I will contend. I don't know everything about the McCloskey situation and perhaps a strategic retreat made sense. I'll give one scenario where it would make perfect sense to everybody, which is what if they have a

kid who's like, mom, I really don't need you to be the face of the gun rights movement. Can we just make this go away? And I want to have a normal family and I don't want to be famous. That is a perfectly good reason to be like, yeah, you know what? I'm not going to fight this. I disagree. But the father i want to have a normal family and i don't want to be famous that is a perfectly good reason to be like yeah you know what i'm not gonna fight this i disagree but the father's running to be a senator sure that's who knows but i'm saying like that would be one scenario maybe it's not literally them where i could be like you know what i'm not gonna do this yeah i don't know wife is like i don't have the fortitude for this i've uh and she could have individually sure taking a deal deal. I just grew up constantly frustrated at the lack of unity. Solidarity.

How's that for a word? When I would see my friends constantly complain about how they work for a restaurant and it's unfair they're not getting paid enough. And I'd say, so if you all agree, why don't you all just stop working? And they're like, oh, no, I have to. And I'm like, there's five of you. You could literally just walk out the front door and stand there and say, we're not going to walk back in the building unless we get another dollar an hour. And they'd say, yes, please get back to work. Well, I can't do that. I'm like, well, then you're not going to get your dollar an hour.

What do you mean? If people just stood up for themselves, if everyone finally just agreed, we'd be done with it. If people had principle, value, strength, courage, and were willing to make the sacrifices to defend freedom, individual liberties, we would have never have headed at risk in the first place. It's coordination, too. You need all these values along with some sort of sociological coordination. Because if you do it one by one, you just whack them all. It's true. It's true.

And that's the thing. If everyone in Chicago demanded a jury trial, what I bet would happen, and I think if you thought about this, you would think it would happen too, they would take a very few cases up front, make real examples out of them, charge them with everything that they could, and then ask everyone else, you sure you want the jury trial? And if they said, yep, I think a lot of those people would break, and I wouldn't blame them for one bit. The point is, for everyone to stand up and say, I demand a jury trial, would be them standing strong. Assuming the people don't break, they win. But I don't see any scenario where an entire population acts in concert as pressure increases. It's just a cost. I agree. I agree.

The problem is they don't work together. Sure. If the system cannot maintain that many jury trials Barely a fraction of them. But that's why we have public education, so that these kids are taught from kindergarten before they can really walk and read that the authorities are genuinely good people who maybe they get it wrong sometimes, maybe they're not

always smart, they're a little ignorant sometimes, but they do want what's best for everyone, that you have to punish some people to save everybody else. They're the good guys. So it's very hard to realize as an adult, when this has been your entire context, that you are a means to an end for these people in law enforcement, that they have certain numbers and quotas they want to meet,

that they get off on getting those convictions or else this wouldn't be their job because how could you sleep at night if you're putting away people you even suspect are innocent? So yeah, it's much more malevolent. And what they were doing to you and your brother was you and your lawyer who you had was another version of good cop, bad cop.

Because then you have the lady screaming and your lawyer could be like, hey, I'm a good guy. I'm just going to get you community service. How can you lose? Look at this crazy lunatic. You don't want to deal with bad cop. I'm good cop.

I'm your buddy. And most people would be like, hey, I want to listen to good cop. I'm good cop. I'm your buddy. And most people would be like, hey, I want to listen to good cop. I'm going to take this deal. You know, I think I was just – I refuse. I think that's extremely commendable. In some regards. Like I've been to North Korea.

You know what I mean? I know some – this is obviously a non-North Korean situation. It's very – I'm very reticent to encourage people to take risks without knowing their situation. That said, I 1,000 percent in Defiance of Mathematics agree with you that if everyone unanimously or a large portion of the population stood up and said, we're going no further, that's going to be really, really hard for them to do anything about. And it's only, I think, actually a few percentage points of the population. I agree. With the Revolutionary War. Exactly.

It was supported by less than the majority, but I think the largest faction of people in the Revolution was Leave Me Alone. Yes. Yes. As with most elections, right? Absolutely. So if right now there was just general mass noncompliance or a general strike among conservatives, maybe general strikes the wrong words because noncompliance by better. Keep working.

Support yourself. Grow your own food. Hunt your own food. Shopment shop locally, organically, and just stop using the major corporations. They'd be in panic in two seconds. How you coordinate that. could make an internet video and be like everyone i'm just saying hypothetically you could coordinate people to like withdraw their bank account all on the same day at the same time and just basically collapse the house of cards but this is what's kind of happening with like your show and like my book and our sponsors is that people have an opportunity to put their money where their mouth

is and to create this parallel economy and parallel culture and they're doing it peacefully and they're doing it through freedom and it's something where this is with the beauty of free enterprise. Literally everybody wins. The sponsor sells their product, and they're also supporting people they like. That person gets to do his book or his show. As an audience member, I'm getting a product I wanted anyway, and part of this money is going to make sure something I enjoy stays in perpetuity. It's all wins all around.

I'm short-term pessimistic, long-term optimistic. Yes, that's my point too. And the reason I think so is looking at the website we're launching at TimCast.com and the things that we're building, I'm 100% confident we're going to succeed. Yes. 100%. And that means if there is a new expansion in media, which I firmly believe will be one of the biggest media companies in 10, 20 years and news and all that stuff, then what does that future look like? It looks like a large amount, hundreds of millions of people around the world will be getting real news and will have the content we produce will be rooted in individual liberties

and freedom and personal responsibility. But this is what I talk about all the time. People are like, how are you optimistic? Are you just blowing smoke up my butt? I go, look at Don Lemon. Look at the White House press corps. you look at the the look at the staff at harvard law you're telling me these people are smarter more educated and more coordinated have more power than stalin than hitler but you have to laugh but we beat them

this is who you're up against now and you think you're going to lose are you crazy it's the banks i think that of course it's the bank capitalism is is incredibly symb up against now and you think you're going to lose? Are you crazy? It's the banks. I think that capitalism is incredibly symbiotic. But when you install a banking system in the middle that's profiting and causing interest, basically induced slave labor on us, that's the problem. If we could remove the banks and each of us hold our own crypto, you know, with your own crypto, you're basically your own bank. There's no more banks. I'm going to follow Luke's advice. What Luke would say is we need to fund the Fed. We need to increase the Fed's powers over currency to make sure we're all fair.

Right, Luke? Protest, give all of your money, and make it meaningless. And then we have monopoly money everywhere. No, I'm just kidding. That's basically at this point. I mean, we basically already have monopoly money with how much they're printing it. But I think also another aspect here that we have to entertain is that the state is becoming more and more desperate. We're seeing more and more draconian measures being implemented.

We're seeing a lot of FBI infiltration, organizing, because they were either cooperating or helped organize, planned, and carried out the events that they're no longer being held responsible for. This, as the Biden administration literally announces their new war on terror, which is a domestic war on people who don't like the government, militias, and their buzzword of the day, white supremacy, which could mean anything because that word has been bastardized and used so many times without meaning. Did you see the AP's refusing to report on some crimes? No. So the AP,

a news organization, as a news organization, my job is to provide information to the populace, ostensibly. It's what they always say. Free press, free democracy, blah. The Associated Press, which is an extremely big, very respected news organization, they had an article this week where they said, we are no longer going to report on the names or appear or show mugshots if someone is arrested for a crime that's not that big a deal because we don't want this to like haunt them throughout the rest of their life.

They're Googled their life. OK, so wait, wait, wait. You do a crappy little crime, shoplifting, whatever. The AP will cover the story, but they won't mention your name or mugshot. But I tweeted some rap lyrics in high school and now I got this job as an athlete. Well, let's drive you to suicide. So it's very clear what they regard as a real

threat and a real crime and what they don't. Well, there's good news. There is a political party that's going to find us a way out. I love this so much. I love doing this show. I love this show much. I love doing this show. I love this show. Let's make history.

Michael, what's going on with the Libertarian Party in New Hampshire? Oh, my goodness. Lydia has the documents. Yes, we folded them. Okay, so this is – I am going to give a garbled version of this because this is like playing telephone. But I'm very, very glad I get to do this because then everyone could be like, okay, he's talking out of his butt. Let me double check. And when they look it up, they'll be like, no, this is right.

So Dave Smith, who's this aspiring comedian you guys have had on the show. He's great. Yeah. He is a big member of the Libertarian Party. And his followers are something called the Mises Caucus, which is named after this very failed think tank, the Mises Institute. So they're the more radical of the Libertarians, right? So he's brought a lot of energy

to the Libertarian Party, which has historically and correctly been regarded as a joke. And state by state, they've had these conventions, and they've been electing their slates for delegates, whatever the position is, and the MISCOX people have been running the table, because he's just bringing just bringing all the energy and it's all these kind of like lowest status uh people have nothing to bring to the table other than this is their chance to be members of the

party they won in new hampshire new hampshire of all the states this is i completely could be wrong in this one that's the home of the free state project that's where all the hardcore libertarians move to and people can look up the Free State Project. It's a great idea. I highly encourage people to look it up. What happened was – what was the woman's name? She's Gigi. I sent you the woman who's the head of the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire.

Unilaterally said – Joletta Jarvis? Joletta Jarvis. She was their candidate for governor. I sent you the letter. Please, you can read it, where she basically said, everyone who was in the Libertarian Party previously is now not part of the Libertarian Party. I am the Libertarian Party because I got unanimously voted to be the chair.

I'm going to pass a new series of bylaws unilaterally. No one vote on them. I am going to extend my term to four years. No one vote on this. And now this is the new LP and you guys are not the LP. Right? So they're like, well, we have all the bank accounts and all everything else. She has their Twitter. It's Twitter. I went full

Brooklyn. Yeah, it was hardcore. Two Utes. What is a Ute? What just happened? Twitter. Did I just get possessed by Snooki? Okay. She has their Twitter and their social media. And this was a huge drama. It's like you just stole the entire thing and you're worried about this kind of like alt-right thing.

You're acting like a fuhrer. The Libertarian National Committee had a meeting on YouTube. You could go look it up a couple of days ago. They voted and they basically endorsed what she did they're like how they're like look if you want to like dissolve one state party we have that in our like constitution or bylaws which is you have a meeting you call a motion you're like all right three quarters of what i think it is this libertarian party new hampshire dissolves a nuclear option we're going to reform it she's like we didn't do that if you want to do that let's have the vote they're like

nope now the guy who's the head of libertarian party john bishop henchman i think his name he It's a nuclear option. We're going to reform it. She's like, we didn't do that. If you want to do that, let's have the vote. They're like, nope. Now the guy who's the head of the Libertarian Party, John Bishop Henchman, I think is his name, he sent out a letter, which Lydia has, and he says, anyone – by the way, I should let you know as a lawyer – this is great libertarianism – anyone who casts aspersions on my integrity or – can you please read it? Blah, blah, blah, blah, is setting themselves up for legal action just so you're warned and people like wait you're the head of the libertarian party very arguably a public figure and you're threatening lawsuits against fellow libertarians but apparently i got a message from dave that they completely lost everything's getting handed over right now yeah i'm seeing a lot of pushback against the libertarian party on twitter and the free state project tweeted a couple days ago quote the free state Project was explicitly founded as a result of the continued failures of the Libertarian Party.

We're thrilled to see New Hampshire be growing increasingly libertarian and very few Free Staters care what party does it. So a lot of people are pushing back and I'm seeing people burning t-shirts. I'm seeing some people sell their t-shirts. I am here to declare.

Let me finish this by point. Following suit with, what's her name again? Jolena Jarvis. Jolena Jarvis. I am hereby declaring that I'm actually the chairman of the Libertarian Party. That all these people who are claiming to be otherwise are fraudulent. I'm kind of the Libertarian Party chairman in exile. And I expect all the party assets to be returned to me

according to the new bylaws which I'm'm writing, which will be forthcoming. Can I second that? Yes, absolutely. I also will endorse that. So I got a couple questions. The Free State Project, is that like where they're trying to get all the people to come there and become residents and then vote for freedom or something? Yes, and slowly go into positions in local government,

and they have elected a large number of local representatives that passed a lot of local laws including ones where you could now choose your tax dollars to go to non-profits that teach people how to homeschool their children so your taxes could effectively go towards efforts that free children and educate them through a community way instead of a public schooling way and new hampshire slowly and surely is implementing a lot of different actions, a lot of different proposals, and they're getting them through, which is absolutely exciting. How are the taxes in New Hampshire? It's one of the lowest tax places, but property taxes are a little bit high.

But it's the place that has some of the highest gun ownership and the least amount of murders, the least amount of crime, the place with the highest IQ, the most amount of homeschooled children, the place that has the most economic opportunities, and the most amount of Bitcoiners, and more Bitcoin transactions than any other state in the union. What's their URL? Because they have a list of all the things that are awesome. I mean, this is why I moved to New Hampshire,

and I'm going to be going back there in just a few days to be a part of Porkfest. You've got to live next to Polish people? Yes, you do. You were doing so well, now it's like... There's actually a lot of Polish people in New Hampshire. Let's go back to this lady. What's the URL, though? Hold on. Let's go back to this lady. Let's go to this lady, Joletta Jarvis. She's trying to take over

the party. No, no, she has taken over. She's declared herself to be the party. She's declared it. She is the Fuhrer of the Libert party uh is it because dave smith they don't like or yeah because they're saying dave smith is bringing all these bigots and racists and all these other cathedral terms and that that's not what we're about so oh my god i finished i forgot the best part she said and this is if you go to lpnh their twitter the libertarian party new hampshire if you want to join the libertarian party new ham Hampshire, you have to sign or say – I don't remember what their mechanism is – a loyalty oath that she wrote. What?

And she put it – go to LPNH, their Twitter. Is it just at LPNH? Yeah, I believe so. It's a big graphic. Interesting. Let me see if I can – when did they post it? Within the last week. Maybe the 12th? So, Michael, is this just because they've gotten woke is that a symptom they've been woke and now

they're being this is what it is the libertarian party is a mechanism for lowest status people to have some modicum of respect and do something with their lives and now that they're being outnumbered and the only thing that's of value to them is being taken away of course they're going to use every trick at their disposal to maintain their hold on this minuscule amount of power now this is my interpretation they of course have a different perspective that we're keeping libertarian parties safe from nazis like dave smith even those family or holocaust survivors but that is kind of the two sides of this issue and it's hilarious because i was watching that YouTube of the executive channel meeting, and I go, this must have been what the Communist Party meetings were like in the 30s,

except everyone's on the spectrum. Yeah. So Dave Smith tweeted, the LPNH fiasco has been resolved. The attempted coup has failed. This was not an LPMC versus LP thing. This was a few corrupt people versus all of the decent, honorable people in the Libertarian Party. Real Spike Cohen, Justin Amash, Carrie...

Carrie Ann Harlow? Yes. And others displayed true integrity. So I wonder if they took down the loyalty of things. I couldn't find it. Oh, wow. I'll look forward to it. The other thing is, they were threatening legal action. They're like, okay, this has nothing to do with your politics. No one vote on this. You can't just one lady

say these are the new bylaws. That makes no sense. Right. So if I vote for Dave Smith, will I get a press secretary, Michael Malice, along with it? Yeah. So here's what my deal was. If you go to maliceforpresssecretary.com,

I said to myself, the only way I would sign on to I would press there during the campaign, not even in presidency. I would say I would sign on as communications director if I had one Bitcoin a month in the bank as security because if they came for me and they try to completely cancel me and destroy me and all these smear pieces, I have to know I'm not going to be homeless. That would be the greatest thing we have seen in politics in my lifetime. And I promise people, and I will say this right now and I'll affirm to it under oath, I would unleash such a season of poison on social media that Donald Trump would look like Mother Teresa. I'm not kidding. The amount of hatred and contempt I have for political class is so

off the charts that I literally can't even talk about it because the show I would be on would be cancelled. I'm doing the Trump hand motion. That's not saying much now. Everyone gets cancelled now. I would like to see a Michael Malice press secretary very much. That would be very entertaining. I want to be part of the

cabinet, man. Let's roll. Let's build free entertaining. I want to be part of the cabinet, man. Let's roll. Let's build free software. I want it to happen. I feel like you'd be the Hunter Biden of this administration. Just have me over for dinner, man. I kind of feel Ian's going to be the Ben with the pipe. You will utilize DMT.

I'm psychedelics all the way. I'm not into the crazy stuff. No crack. No cocaine. Have you tried crack? Negative. Okay. I've had friends who tried it. They say it's really good. I'm not into stimulants and downers and uppers. I crack. No cocaine. Have you tried crack? Negative. I've had friends who've tried it.

I'm not into stimulants and downers and uppers. I just like psychedelics. Judges are bad, okay? Hey! Sugar. But what I want to see is your quick wit when the journalists come asking questions. You know what I would do? I'll tell you exactly what I'd do. Tell me what you'd do. The thing that is a real

issue with Washington is that everyone, it's very incestuous. Now, in a way, it sounds worse than it is because if you're all in an upper class and you're all swimming in the same circles, of course the person who works for this organization is going to marry someone who works for this university.

I mean, these are the circles you travel in. But to Americans, it looks much more nefarious. And I think, in a sense, it is more nefarious than people realize because if your wife works for this charity, you're kind of going to have a different relationship to it. You can't help it. This is your wife. This is her life's work, right? But if you have that press secretary constantly pointing out these relationships, this is really going to, A, upset them, which is a good in and of itself.

But it will also point out to Americans just how the system is us versus them. George Carlin, it's a big club and you ain't in it so i think it's the same big club they used to beat you over the head with yeah so this is the kind of thing where i think people be very receptive because it's one thing to be aggressive like oh you're an idiot you're fake news is that to be like look you guys are all in this big kind of high school thing and that leaves the average guy out in the streets and president smith is doing something about it because he's much more of a schlub than he is

one of you. It would be probably you see how he dresses? It's a disaster. It's a complete embarrassment. I don't say it, others do. I think the Libertarian Party for the longest time was I don't want to say controlled opposition but you look at Joe Jorgensen

coming out and telling people what they must do was one of the funniest things ever. She wanted Dershowitz a part of the Supreme Court. Wow. Yeah. Well, she said it is not enough to be not racist. We must be actively anti-racist. And I was like, sure is something seeing the Libertarian Party telling me what I must do. The Libertarian Party in New Hampshire unfollowed me.

As we're speaking. It said follows follows you? When I hit refresh, it went away. Oh, but they took it back. One minute ago. Literally one minute ago, they pinned tweet. We're back. Three exclamation points.

The Libertarian Party of New Hampshire is now in control of our assets and data. We would like to sincerely thank those on the LNC who came to our defense and those who supported us. Help us further our mission at, and the link is anarchisthandbook.com. So if you want to help the Libertarian Party, at and the link is anarchist handbook.com so if you want to help the libertarian party make sure you buy the i want this is your book yeah let's talk about your book so you just this is like top of the charts uh number one best-selling not was it fiction non-fiction they they erased all the tweets no no you're right i look for it so this this is what happened and i have no uh uh rational explanation okay i did many of you guys know I was just on Jordan Peterson's show not that long ago. We taped it a few months ago.

It just dropped. I didn't even mention this book in the show at all. So I just – how Amazon works – and can I get like five minutes because this is something I think is going to be edifying? Because this is an example of how the regular person can take on the publishing houses and win. Okay? If you – and it's unfortunate it's going to be through Amazon, but right now they basically have a monopoly. Soon there's going to be four or five venues.

How it works is you create your document, make sure you get a professional book designer, so on and so forth. You upload it to their CreateSpace site. They have to clear it, and then once they clear it, it's on Amazon to buy, just like any other book. The problem is when I sent them this, which is a collection. People always ask me anarchism. People ask me anarchism, anarchism, anarchism and I would get bored with it. I'm like

I don't have time to answer your question. I'm like, you know what? There is no book that people can go to to get the complete idea of all the colors of the black flag. So I'm like, I'm going to put together this book of historical essays. So they'd email me back. They'd be like, we have a problem with this essay. When did this person die? I'm like, Michael Bakunin died in like the 1800s. This is public domain.

We have a question about this one. And in between, it's three or four days. So you're sitting there. You don't know how many days it's going to happen. Then they're like, it's live. So if there's no, you can't have a release date. My next book, I'm going to get it cleared ahead of time so that I can hit published on whatever, December 1st.

It drops. And no, I didn't mention it on any of the shows I did. I didn't have a big push because I didn't know when it was coming out. For a full day, it was the number three it on any of the shows I did. I didn't have a big push because I didn't know when it was coming out. For a full day, it was the number three book on all of Amazon. It was the top nonfiction book on all of Amazon. Number one was Dr. Seuss.

Number two was some ladies' novel. Number three was me. It wasn't like a spike because I did some show or someone mentioned it. The fact that it's still – so it was beating Obama. It was beating Hillary. It was beating President Trump. It was beating Hillary. It was beating President Trump. It was beating Oprah. Everybody.

And the only way this happened was through fans and word of mouth. I still don't understand how it happened because it's asymptotic. It is much, much harder to go from 20 to 10 than from 30 to 20. You're getting steeper and steeper. We did it. I'm delighted by the response. And this is a good example of how one person with a motivated fan base spreading the ideas of liberty

as opposed to the Libertarian Party. I was on Breitbart earlier this week. Alex Marlow, who's great, he's got a book out. We're doing better. Sorry, Alex. He was reading a whole section of Emma Goldman on Breitbart. The fact that I could have people talking about radical ideas and people are hungry for radical

ideas, shows that there is a market for it. People love to talk about these concepts, but they're not usually allowed to in corporate media. LP wants none of it. And that's why they're a joke. And that's why when I take over, it's going to be really funny. I think we were some of those fans. You were. You guys

pushed it. It means a lot. Are you still chairman, though? I think I'd be chairman in the chinese sense okay president we so one of the things we we had said right we keep getting super chats where people are like they'll say something innocuous and then turn it into a pitch for michael knolls's book sure so it'll be like you know i can't believe what they're doing with cancel culture on social media it's leaving me speechless much like michael knolls'sless. And whenever, you know, so we read them and it is clever. But I always say, so I've, you know, chatted with Michael a little bit and he's just like, oh, man, are they there? They're still pushing that meme. And I was like, it's fantastic. I love it. Yeah, I want it. I want

everyone to buy your book. So it's the top of the charts. I want everyone to buy Michael Malice's book. So it's the top of the charts. I want everyone to buy Michael Malice's book. So it's top of the charts. I want everyone to buy Andy Ngo's book. Unmasked. Top of the charts. All of them. Then when regular people go to Amazon to find a book, what are they going to get? The most influential subjects are going to be written by smart people challenging the establishment. And I'm going to let you guys in a little inside baseball.

I've not told anyone this. This is the first time I'm revealing this. I got a call from one of the major, major publishers. There's only like four or five of them and and this is an editor i knew and he goes your book got flagged because whenever you have these independent books that do gangbusters it's our job to be like how did this happen and he's getting on a call with me and i like the guy but i'm going to tell him you guys are screwed there's nothing you could do to fix your model you're going to go the way of warner brothers atlantic records which back in the day there are four or five record labels all the

records are through them now you guys still have a large proportion just like abc cbs and nbc have of sitcoms but in terms of channels there's not only cable like dozens on youtube it's literally infinite you are never going to be in position to be random house or saint martin's or simon and schuster the way you were because i right now have demonstrated to you and i'm not magic that i could go there and beat you at your own game and here's the other thing let's suppose they can run the table on me if i sold this book to them on january 1st it would come out january 2023 what happened was in february a fan of mine marla said look there hasn't been a book like this. The last one that was like this in the 60s

wanted to do that audiobook. And I said, why don't you just do it from scratch? And it was out in May. So that turnaround is something they are not in a position to do. So this book is a collection of essays by a bunch of famous anarchists. And you're going to read one. I am going to read one of the classic essays

shortly after we wrap up here. For the audio book. But is there like a lot of original from you in this? No. So the whole point of this is people always ask me if anarchism is a feminine authority

on the subject. Ha ha. The slogan I have on the back is the black flag comes in many colors. This has been a long historical tradition that has swept under the rug.

There's very many variants. There's the hardcore anarcho-communists, which in many ways are predecessors to the rug. There's very many variants. There's the hardcore anarcho-communists, which in many ways are predecessors to Antifa. There's the contemporary anarcho-capitalists, which the left-wings do not consider anarchists at all. But this just shows alternatives to government and critiques of government from many different points of view.

Let me ask you about the political compass, right? People like to say that Antifa is the left libertarian quadrant. I wouldn't say left libertarian, but left certainly, yeah Antifa is the left libertarian quadrant and that I would say left libertarian left. Certainly. Right. Definitely not libertarian. People like you just mentioned anarcho-communist or the precursor to Antifa. Sure. I'm not I don't believe that those who would use force to impose their will over others would be classified as libertarian or anarchist. But there would certainly be anarchists like the guy on the cover, Lewis Ling, his essay. He was arrested by Illinois for being for making bombs and he's explicitly set up for force so

their vision this was their argument and i i since we're on youtube i'm gonna be i have to make clear this is historical stuff this is not something i'm endorsing people doing it's not something i personally believe in but their argument because they came out of a communist tradition which is not marxist so i would strongly all the people who are libertarians who read this the one essay they love the most is by michael bakunin from 1867 bakunin was marx's big rival for the international left and his essay 50 years for the soviet union said this is what marxism is going to mean in practice this is why it's a nightmare a thousand times worse than the czar you guys are crazy you guys are evil this is not we're about he called it it's all in here so they were for force in this sense their argument was

which again i don't agree with that because the police and the government are tools of the wealthy to exploit the population and to keep poor laborers starving and can't feed their kids remember this before the welfare state it is our job to use weaponry as self-defense to have this revolution to have you guys not keep bleeding us dry so so in that regard perhaps i agree with you that they were the precursor to antifa which i view as an overtly authoritarian left movement because they attack regular people correct so they would not be in favor of that any of the people in this book would not be in favor of that right right right so i guess that's my distinction the modern Any of the people in this book would not be in favor of that. Right, right, right. So I guess that's my distinction. The modern version of the people who claim to be left libertarian are anything but. And let me also defend these commies from a lot of these anarcho-capitalists. Emma

Goldman, who I love, was deported by Woodrow Wilson via J. Edgar Hoover during the Great War and sent to Russia. And she goes there because the argument is when push comes to shove, these people are going to be Stalinists. She goes to Russia. She's looking around, because the argument is, when push comes to shove, these people are going to be Stalinists. She goes to Russia. She's looking around. She's like, this is not what we're about. This is a disaster. She goes to Lenin's office, yells at him. She goes, we're anarchists.

We're for free speech. We're for the maximum freedom of the individual. What are you guys doing? He goes, free speech. He told her her face. Free speech is a bourgeois contrivance. At the very least, you can't have it during periods of revolution so go home emma her mentor kropotkin was under house arrest you know in the soviet union she left with her partner in crime literally crime alexander berkman they each wrote books denouncing this and emma's was called my disillusionment in russia when she went to britain emma goldman the heroine the left she's the left, this is as left as it gets. She gave a speech. She starts with a standing

ovation. She's like, guys, what's going on in the Soviet Union is a nightmare. This is exactly what we're opposed to. This is horrible from beginning to end. When she was done, you could hear a pin drop because they weren't hearing it because they were more than happy that this is going to be a big theme in my next book,

to have all these Russians over there. Let's have it be an experiment listen if it doesn't work who cares it's the Russians not affecting us and if it works then we get to import it so this was really cynical sick stuff and when Ayn Rand who skipped the Soviet Union was on Donahue

in 1979 I tweet this all the time Donahue says to her how are you so harsh against these people how are you just condemnatory can't you just say you disagree. Why do you call them so evil? She goes, because I look at them, because they don't hesitate to sacrifice whole nations. And more recently in our time, Venezuela, which you mentioned, how many people were like, hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah, Venezuela, what's going on there?

And then later they weren't like, what have I – I would be perfectly fine with them being like, you know what? Just like Goldman or Berkman. They're like, I thought this was going to be great, and look how it turned out. I was wrong, and we really need to have solidarity with the people of Venezuela, especially as leftists. We should worry about poor people. And there's none of that. Pin drops. I went to Venezuela.

Stores were empty. It was very, very difficult to buy things. We went to a mall, if you can call it that, and it was just a bunch of empty stores and some were open. We did go to some areas that had food. They were wealthier areas. Luke also went to Venezuela. Someone was literally shot and killed as soon as I landed at the airport. At the airport?

At the airport. The airport is one of the most dangerous places you could be in Caracas, Venezuela. Why is that? That's where all the major robberies and crimes happen. And an Egyptian guy was literally just a couple of minutes in front of me, leaving the airport. Some guys tried to mug him. He resisted. They shot it.

I heard the shot as I was going through customs. That's how crazy Venezuela is. Luke posted a bunch of videos of these markets that were just barren. But there were leftists, American leftists, who went to Venezuela and went to the Potemkin markets and filmed all the glory of all their products, saying how great it was. The Chavista areas, the communist friendly areas that were of course friendly with the regime.

This is what people don't realize. When you go to these countries where the government runs everything, they also are perfectly happy. This happened in the 90s in North Korea and many other places. They're like, okay, we've got enough food for 500 people. We've got 2,000 people. Who's going to get the food?

They're not going to say we're going to do it equally. They're going to take care of their own first. And in a way, you can't blame them because if they don't take care of their own, they're going to lose their hold on power and therefore not continue the revolution. So from their perspective, they don't have a choice. It's horrifying. And again, what we talked about earlier, Americans have no clue what this is like. But my next book's going to change are there ways to dissolve monarchy that aren't violent well yeah they could abdicate

decentralized every problem we see comes from centralization comes from big governments comes from people saying that they're going to fix everyone's problems and that's impossible we have to realize and wake up as a people and understand that one person shouldn't be responsible for everyone else and we should't be responsible for everyone else and we should all be responsible for ourselves. Personal responsibility. Yes. Yep.

Or call your friend, hire someone. It doesn't, you know, like people are like, oh, in anarchist society, you'd be the first one shot. I'm like, why don't I have the ability to call in my big MMA friends to be like, hey, can you be my housemate? Well, but hold on, hold on. If the idea was that criminal punishment deters crimes, why do we still have crimes? We've got very harsh problems. We've got, what is it, like a quarter of the world's prison population

is here in the U.S.? It's unconscionable. There were several studies that the death penalty was not a deterrent for people committing extreme crimes. I look at it this way when it comes to gun rights specifically. I sometimes cross busy streets. Cars don't hit me. You know why?

They have brakes. Surprise, surprise. The individuals driving those cars don't want to kill somebody. It's not because of the law. It's because they don't want to kill somebody. And also, let's be completely sociopathic about it. They don't want the headache from damaging their car. So even if they don't value your life, there's still going to be a cost for them in terms of like why do I –

I'd rather the brake than having a day of having to deal with this blood. It's when people get desperate is when they change. No one really wants to hurt until they're starving and they need food and everything is in their way. I think there's a lot of evil people out there who get off on hurting like children. A lot of sociopaths. Most of them are in Washington, D.C. per capita, the most largest amount. This is why my new political ideology is called Marxism, and it's where we take Elon Musk's starship. Whenever someone – we take all of Congress and all the politicians, they go in the ship, and then it blasts off.

Then what? What do you mean? I've asked too much. He just told you. It's gone. I like this. I just watched Elysium. You know what happens next?

We all live happily ever after. Applause. And then what we do is whenever someone wins a position in office, we have smaller rockets and they blast off. So you won. Congratulations. Right this way, sir. See ya. Adios.

Let's go to Super Chat. To serve government. It must be done. I was going to bring up Tehran, sir. Adios. Let's go to Super Chat. To serve government. It must be done. I was going to bring up Tehran, but we have chats. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where they ban politicians in a Mexican city with 30,000 people. They ban politicians, political slogans, political signs, and people deal with their problems through a community one-on-one basis.

And it's one of the largest anarchist places in the world, Chiron, Mexico. I did a full documentary on it on my YouTube channel, We Are Change, and it's worth a watch because the ideas expressed there have been carried out with large populations in a peaceful, cohesive way with people taking personal responsibility for themselves and standing up to government, to the cartels, and to the police officers that were all corrupted and doing horrible things to the community, And now they're living in peace where literally homicides down completely, murders stopped completely, kidnapping stopped completely, all because people decided to take their life into their own personal hands. Can I give you some unsolicited advice?

Yeah. For you and everybody else, if you're doing something like this, get a URL. That would be easy to remember. So instead of going to We Are Change, you just go to like iranian documentary.com they go straight to it so that's a cheap easy way to promote stuff uh i'm really big proponent of that all of our sponsors we do that yeah yeah number two is uh i don't think people like the ancoms they get something a lot of stuff right because human beings are not lord of the flies despite what we're told in hobbsian when you look at survivor the only reason these people are fighting is

because they have to vote each other out. When people tend to be in communities, for the most part, which is like 90%, which is a huge percentage, they really don't want headaches. They don't want conflict. They just want to get along, and like, sometimes, like, okay, my neighbor's noisy. Am I really going to call the cops? Even Judge Judy berated

one of the plaintiffs or defendants once. She goes, she's like, I'm 900 years old. I've had lots of neighbors. Some I like, some I don't like. Some are annoying. Some are not annoying, whatever. I've never called the cops on any of them.

Because when you're dealing in a community, you have to, anyone who lives in a city, you have to have some little sacrifices. So I think people don't appreciate to what extent cooperation is the norm. Like you see a kid, it's just kind of, it's just taken for granted. Let's go to Super Chats. The problem is you say 90% are pretty. Yes, correct. 10% doesn't scale properly because if you have 100,000 people, that's 10,000 crazies. And you need law enforcement, in my opinion.

Well, you need security. And we need Super Chats. You are right about that. So if you haven't already, smash the like button. Go to TimKatz.com. Become a member and help support our work as we expand our newsroom, hire more awesome people with your support. And subscribe to this channel if you haven't already. Share the show with your friends so that – I just think – is it wrong for me to say that we deserve more ratings than CNN?

I wouldn't say ratings. More viewers. More viewers. Ratings is a Nielsen thing. Why give Nielsen the credit? Well, you know what I mean. I don't know. I think you – I don't want ratings. More viewers. More viewers. Ratings is a Nielsen thing. Why give Nielsen the credit? Well, you know what I mean. I don't know. I think you – I don't want to say deserve earned.

What I mean is CNN gets propped up by YouTube. They get put on the front page. They get put – well, they're not in airports anymore. They just are given this. I think we should have more people watching us than watching them and other channels as well. I think the vibe here is a lot more entertaining. So if you agree with Michael and it's entertaining, share the show with your friends.

Let's read some of these super chats. No one watching this show has friends. Who are you fooling? That's a good point. Who are you fooling? Alright. Scott Beach says, Mr. Malice, I bought all your books, belong to your locals community, and my only real interaction with you is on Twitter and is your polls, but you blocked

me on Twitter. Why? I don't know who you are. I have no idea. You don't know Scott Beach? I don't. What's his username? I'm assuming it's Scott Beach. I don't know.

I don't know why I blocked you, Scott. Scott, if you're in my locals, I will unblock you. There you go. If you go to malice.locals.com and support me, I'll unblock you. Sometimes it happens accidentally, too. People don't realize. No, it doesn't. What? You've never accidentally hit the block button?

No. You have to confirm it, don't you? I don't think you have to, but it's like you have to go to their profile, then you have to hit block, then you have to confirm it don't you i don't think you have to but it's like you have to go with their profile then you have to hit block then you have to yes yeah you're correct yeah okay well you'd have to confirm so you purposefully shout out one of your biggest fans i i would say he's one of my biggest fans where i know his name all right uh and i'll tell you why i blocked you two wait there's another comment that's identical here they come i love that they're super chatting us this. The Michael Angelou, literally the same thing he said.

What's his name? The Michael Angelou. Is he on Locals too? And he said the exact same thing. I bought all your books, belong in your Locals community, blah, blah, blah, and you blocked me on Twitter. Is it the same guy? Is it verbatim? Is it copy-paste?

It's copy and paste, but it's a different person. I think that's multiple accounts. I see that sometimes in the chat. It's verbatim? There's two super chats. I see that sometimes in the chat. Verbatim? There's two super chats. That are verbatim the same. Okay, I'll look into it in my locals. Just reply to the Elizabeth Spires thread.

Novum says, 354 more federal holidays and we'll meet the end goal. Malice, you've changed my life for the better. I have never had so much personal responsibility as I have now. Here's the other thing that's amazing. A federal holiday is just a lockdown. It's just making it illegal for you to go to work if you have certain jobs. Yeah, no. How could people – Comfortably Smug, who has a Twitter account I absolutely love.

Oh, yeah. He's like, how could someone be against this holiday celebrating black achievement? Juneteenth, they just made a federal holiday. Because all a federal holiday is is it's illegal for you to go to work. Only in the government, right? But the banks. Well, the banks choose to do it. I don't know.

They don't. If you're in bank, I think you have to be closed by federal holiday, if I'm not mistaken. Please double check this. I got an issue with Juneteenth, the name. It should be called like, what do they call it?

Abolition Day or like, what do they call it? It's got a historical name. They freed the slaves on that day, right? Well, so arguably the slaves were freed with the Emancipation Proclamation. Emancipation Day. That's not June 19th. There was still active civil war. It wasn't until the North actually went into Texas and enforced the law long after the war was over when people were still illegally

holding slaves. The last slave was freed was this day celebrated. I like it. I saw, I think it was, was it Charlie Kirk who tweeted that it was wrong because it was a race-based holiday or whatever? My attitude is like, we have Independence Day where we have this ideological revolution

where we severed ourselves from the monarchy. Labor Day, it's just a class fall day. Martin Luther King Day was originally called Black People's Day. Oh, wow. Did you not know this yet? No. So the Independence Day for us was when we had this ideological revolution and physical revolution of sorts. And we severed ourselves from monarchy.

We realized that divine providence wasn't what makes law. And then 80 or so years later with another ideological revolution that you cannot hold people as property and it was much blood was shed for this i love it it's an independence day i mean the it's a major step forward for freedom in america so i in terms of like like it's better than a tree no no but like if you ask me which of these is a more important holiday it's going to be a no-brainer. Oh, yeah. All right. MetalRetroDuchess says, Luke, you should make a t-shirt that says, fortified elections have consequences.

That seems like a very safe term. That's a pretty good one, actually. I like that. It's pretty good. Fortified. I like that. We have someone joining soon who's going to expand our merch, and we're going to do merch like new different shirts and memes and stuff. I'm so excited.

Yeah, we got a lot of people joining. We're going to be our merch and we're going to do merch like new different shirts and memes and stuff. I'm so excited. Yeah, we got a lot of people joining. We're going to be really big, really, really fast. We just got one of the best 3D printers on the market. We're going to be making stuff. We're going to be doing, for the guests that are interested, portraits that we'll auction off to fans. Are they going to be like caricatures? I guess they could be. Well, are they?

I don't want a caricature. No, they're meant to be regular portraits of people on the show you know hand drawn portraits like someone we'll have someone draw the guest with painting or like a pencil like a digital painting oh that sounds awesome and then we we print it out have it signed and then we auction it off like one of a kind oh i like this we want to do a bunch of things to expand culture to create uh symbols so i'll i'll try to be quick with this i I went to a lecture on music business 15 years ago, and this guy was explaining the business of music is not about the song. It's about the memories that you create. And he said, here's one thing that we did. We had a big set

drop, which is a gigantic flag that was checkered. And after the show, we cut every checkered piece out and sold those to the fans. That way they would always retain a piece that would remind them every time they looked at it. What you need to understand about merchandise is not that someone is going to be wearing a shirt, not that they're advertising your band, but that every time they open their closet, they remember that moment they shared with you. We need that. We need people to remember the conversations, remember how they felt about them and own something. When they see that portrait of Michael Malice autographed, and maybe we'll do like prints, but we'll do one autograph. Yeah, yeah.

People will have this really cool picture, and then their friends will say, what's this? Oh, it's this guy, Michael Malice. He's got a great book. You've got to read it. It generates the conversation. It keeps it insight in mind. This is why I don't have a blanket, but I covered myself with AIDS quilt. To remember all the people who died so young

tragically in the 80s. Right on. Alright, let's read some more. Eric Miller says, I trolled the king of trolls live using his own words against him as he was dressed as Superman who gets weak with rocks from his own planet on April Fool's Day. It was worth Gitmo, good sir.

My respects. I love it when people create their own little backstories. Hashtag that happened. And everyone clapped. That's right. All right. Superman, if you wasn't scared of green rocks, says, Tim, she hasn't gotten the monkey yet.

She was halfway there and another monkey had diarrhea. So now she has to wait a week. Michael, there is still time. Cassandra, I love you. I'm in love with you. You know this. Listen, I can sit down and talk to you about animals for literally days. Let's come up with a better sugar glider.

Yes. Those are possums that like to be in your pocket. They're adorable. They're monkey-shaped in size. And they smell nice because they only eat fruit. The males have a bald spot. They rub it on things that make it smell like banana. They're amazing pets.

It's so much better. And their lifespan is shorter. And they have little hands where their fingers are stuck together because they try to climb things. There's so much. And you could throw them like a ball because they glide. So you throw it to your daughter, you throw it back. And they float. Yes.

They glide. They glide. Look it up, super gliders. Not only is it going to be a tenth the price, it's going to be pleasure instead of headache as the monkey bites your beautiful child. The marmoset would do that? Yes, they're nasty. I'm so ready for this.

I want a sugar glider now. They're great. They're domesticated. Why not a dog? We'll have to call Cassandra afterwards. That's too basic. I can understand she wants something weird. Yeah. I can understand she wants something weird. Yeah.

All right. Stalin Sepedis says, hi, Tim. I love your show. You need to defeat CNN. Telemundo and Univision are worse than CNN. Greetings from Dominican Republic. Ian, you are awesome. Well, they're worse because when they talk about COVID at the very beginning, they have the upside down exclamation point.

So it really gets scary. Oh, yeah. yeah, Spanish. All right, Jay Rich says, Holy crap, how did you guys manage to get the Cash Cab guy on? Best episode ever. Knock, knock, I'm a gorilla. Just kidding, though. Michael is awesome.

Can't wait for his show. Yeah, you were on Cash Cab. I was. Did you win? He did pretty well. All I do is win, baby. I sent you the video. It was pretty entertaining, yeah. That's great. What's the driver's name? Do you remember? He did pretty well. All I do is win, baby. I sent you the video. It was pretty entertaining.

Yeah. What was the driver's name? Do you remember? Ben Bailey. Yeah. Was he shocked how smart you were? Oh. You want the cash cap story?

Yeah. Yeah. When I am – someone is trapped in a situation with me, I'm going to do whatever I can to get them to break. So I was messing with him the entire time. I was just talking about, like, how did you get on cash cap i'm like i got my knee pads i met the producers like just really things and i'm like what are they gonna edit in and what are they gonna edit out and the very last thing was double or nothing right it's like a video bonus round and at that point we had two out of the three strikes and your adrenaline is through the roof and you're like i just want this to be done so because if you

get the three strikes you lose all of it so like want this to be done because if you get the three strikes, you lose all of it. So I just want to get to my location and get the money. And then he's like, you know, we have this thing called Double Nothing. I go, okay, we're just going to take the money. And he goes, can you just sit and pretend that you're thinking about it for a second? And we taped it again. As soon as I left the cash cab, they give you fake money.

They really give you a check later. And I turned to the cab. They go, what are you going to do with the money? I go, this is all going up my nose because i saw some behind the music about an aerosmith or motley crew they're like what's your money he goes all about my nose that got cut so he was not having a good day with me as literally the backseat driver just clowning him the whole time i'm a horrible horrible person. And I love it. We enjoy your presence. I know.

All right, let's see. Josh Shepard says, does Timcast have a tip line slash contact for news or stories? Just the tip. Just the tip. I live just outside of Portland asking for a friend.

We don't right now. That's a good idea. We'll make one for now. Pitches at Timcast.com is a good way to do it. Just buy Timcast.com. Tipcast. Tipcast? Yeah. Get it quick. it someone's buying it right now you just told people to buy they bought it dude just the tip at timcast.com i think i think mike that's actually a good idea

for a tip line clever although i don't know if people would take it seriously all right the one free man says anything successful is racist they don don't want you to be successful. Or global warming. Those are the two. They alternate. Yes. Also, the state labels patriots as terrorists because the one enemy of a patriot is a corrupt, tyrannical government. Well, the Founding Fathers were terrorists. They were all revolutionaries.

Literally. That's what King George called them. Don't tell the Back the Blue crowd what they did. Okay. I can't read. Or the Ayn Rand crowd. Yeah. I can't read Cyrillic, but they say. We can't. You can't. I can. Can Okay, I can't read... Or the Ayn Rand crowd. Yeah. I can't read Cyrillic,

but they say... We can't. You can't. I can. Can you? I can, but very poorly. It says, it's like an... I can't even describe what the letters are. Backwards R, probably. It's a backwards A. E, backwards A, R, E, H. I can't. There's no way to say it. Two backwards Ns. Okay.

Two backwards Ns. I do understand that eating eggs fresh from the chicken's butt is just eating cicadas with a few extra steps, don't you? Yeah. You're not asking me. No, no, no. I think they're just saying it. Go back to Russia. So I tweeted.

With your cicada food. I tweeted yesterday I had eggs fresh from the chicken's butt, and today I had a tomato fresh off the vine. Oh, those were good. City folk be missing out. Yeah. So that's what that's in reference to. Yeah. We definitely don't have eggs and tomatoes in the city.

Look, look, look, I don't, I don't, I have a filtration system for cicadas. Okay. I'm not going to eat a cicada.

I filter it through the chicken and the chicken turns it into an egg. And then I cooked the egg with some chili powder and some, some peppers. And it's delicious. This is being made into one of those videos where they edit everything and make us have funny reactions right now. That little clip. What's his name? Pink Trip? He's doing that right now. I hope so.

Yeah, we got chickens. Only one lays eggs because she was a rehome. The other ones, it turns out, we thought it was a transgender chicken. It turns out it's actually just been a rooster who was assigned female at birth and that was an heir on the part of the hatchery. So now, they're

getting older and the rooster has like his favorite girls they're like the bigger ones i guess that's what he's into and then they all well it's like it is i don't need to do chicken or whatever but he'll he'll walk over and lay down and then like his two favorite girls come and lay with him oh and then the other girls run up and they lay on the outside and the one rehome just stands in the corner with its wings out going like just freaking out life is really good when you have a favorite girl yeah that's right all right let's see special taxi says i've been a long time supporter of both you and malice love it when the dear leader is on timcast dear writer also very happy that luke is back don't you guys ever get tired of winning? I'll let you know when that happens.

Sometimes. I try to make it as challenging as possible. So it's rewarding, you know. You know, I've been... Let me just put it this way. In response to winning all the time. It's not that I'm winning all the time. It's that I don't really view winning and losing as different things. So, like, when I skate, for instance, and I fall,

I don't look at it like i failed it's just the same exact thing to me but landing it is like reaching the goal you know i guess i kind of view it like everything we do whether it works or doesn't work is just a part of the process can i also thank the audience from like the bottom of my heart like people it's really kind of very sick and by design i would guess that like like urban media elites make it a point that if you're experiencing trying to express kindness or uh gratitude that they have to have some sneer or that is somehow inferior to like complaints uh i i'm in a different position as an author because i can't tell you i can it's gonna be under 10 how many book projects i had that failed

because you write the proposal. I have a very big shot agent. He shops it around. There's like seven houses. And if none of the editors want it, that book proposal is dead. Now, because of this, Anarchist Handbook and other books, I don't need to get that editor's approval. I could put this out. Maybe it sells crap.

But it still exists. I've still, from concept to execution. So that is a major thing that's happened only in the last five years. Right on. All right. So thank you. The Super Chat says, in the greater Seattle area, there's been a lot of military aircraft and helicopters. It may just be a reserve weekend, but I'm way more aware of it.

Interesting. I see what's going on with Russia and China, and I'm pessimistic in the short term, optimistic in the long term. But I think, you know, were you the one who was bearish on fourth-turning stuff and Thucydides' trap? Oh, I heard it's Thucydides is how you pronounce his name.

Thucydides, isn't it? I think it's Thucydides in Greek. Oh, interesting. That makes sense because they don't have the C. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sound, yeah. Thucydides. That wasn't me that you referred to. don't like the fourth earning i don't know what that means that is it's it's the it's the strassau generational oh i don't like that stuff

i hate that stuff yeah it's it seems to astrology to me all right mr hunt first name michael says illegal immigrants pouring over the border political prisoners in solitary confinement china is ramping up for war with the U.S. Why aren't we trying harder? Why can't you and other news guys start a movement for secession? I don't think secession would help us in a war with China. It would make everything worse. First of all, you guys.

What's this guy's name? His last name is Hunt and his first name is Mike. Okay, listen, Mr. Hunt. If that is your real name. Something tells me it's not. In 2015, I was the one who wrote the article about it's time to disunite the states. I was the first one calling for the secession stuff. Jesse Kelly was second.

So please don't point fingers when you don't when you're talking about. And I was with the idea, not even knowing that you were even talking about it. The first time I went on the show, it was the first idea I brought up. I was like, we need a peaceful divorce because it makes sense to avoid a lot of the bigger drama and fighting that is going to happen and is going to be ugly. I have been saying this for 10 years. The entire time I've been following politics.

Yeah, but no one listens to a woman in politics. Come on now, let's have some sense. It's about time we start, I think so, right? I agree. And that woman's name is Marjorie Taylor Greene. Well, she wants to abolish the ATF. I know. I know. It's great. I just want to abolish ATF agents.

All right. Dilly Dilly says, thank you, Luke, for addressing Canadian Gestapo-style police. Not enough discussion about it up here. Luke, please don't leave right away. But someone followed up immediately. Luke, please leave right away. Terican says, to everyone that's begging Luke to stay, y'all do know he has his own channel, right? And it's pretty damn good.

It's called We Are Change. Yep. I'm very close to 700,000 YouTube subscribers. Is that true? Yep. That's amazing. It's amazing, especially with me confronting the head of Alphabet before at Bilderberg and pissing him off and chasing him down the street. Good for you.

So I'm very lucky and very blessed, and I can't thank you guys enough for being a part of it and making me better by constantly criticizing me correctly. You do amazing work. This is for you, Michael. Stoker Roylett says, Tim and company, love your show. I've had a monkey as a pet. Worst decision I've ever made. The only thing the monkey

did was constantly, continuously through an unrelenting, never-ending stream of excrement at me. Bad time in my life. I don't think marmosets do that, though. Yes, they do. Why would marmosets be different? I feel like that's a monkey. You gotta call her tonight. They're just small monkeys.

I gotta tell you a story. They have macaques in Brazil, right? Is that what it is? I was in Rio, and we were walking down the street when I got hit by something. And I turned around, like, what happened? And the guy was like, he's okay. He's just a monkey. And I was, or he said, I think he said macaque.

And I was like, what? Excuse me? You're what? I got hit by something and he said, it's just a macaque. And then I didn't know what it meant. I didn't think he said he hit me with, you know. And then he was like, look up there. And then I look and there was a little monkey on top of like a a bus like seating thing and it was like looking at us and

it yelled and it threw something at me again it was just the most hilarious thing i've ever seen they're all over rio i guess they just run around and do their thing you know but if you look at a monkey's energy they're very frenetic they're always looking around they're bouncing around it's not something that should be in this small space that you would give like let's suppose a sugar glider or something else that's cool. Yeah, they need to swing through trees. And they're smart enough to know you're the one keeping me prisoner here. Yeah, I experienced them in Thailand and in India. And both times, they're gangster and they're trouble.

Yes. All right. Let's see. Legama Thagian says, I met an anti-Trump leftist with a cast still on their arm from being pulled from the path of the car in Charlottesville by a right-wing militiaman who saved them. They fully debunked the good people on both sides hoax. Can I email you their name and YouTube? This person is a patriot. Interesting.

Pitches at TimCast.com. All right. Christopher says, Tim, your ignorance to the law is amazing sometimes if a crime is committed with a gun they never give the guns back yeah but it's not necessarily it's not necessarily a crime that of the gun that they're being charged with right uh well my point is if he won and didn't plead guilty then it wasn't a crime yeah then they'd get his guns back how could you be like well you know you're not guilty of committing a crime but we're going to take it because it was a crime but sometimes they do that like drug stuff like if you're not convicted they still keep the stuff yeah yeah

that's true that's true we don't know how the law works evil state stuff man yeah all right or they could be like we lost it boogaloo boy says boy you don't you want me to no but you know the boog i mean i know okay yeah but it's the super chat, and they said, Duncan Lemp. Time to raise the black flag. It's near. Stay safe and stay deadly. Who is Duncan? You mentioned him.

That story deserves a lot more attention. I talked about it. It was a no-knock raid in the middle of the night in Maryland from a police department, a SWAT department in Maryland that's known for having many controversial no-knock raids. And as you were describing, a man was shot when he was sleeping. Through the window. His pregnant girlfriend was ripped away through glass.

And no one really talks about the story, but this is a huge story. And they're refusing to release the body cam footage. Yeah. And none of the cops are going to be charged. And he's dead. And here's the thing. Here's the thing. Let's steel man this argument. Let's pretend – because the argument was he got a tip.

He's got like a red flag gun law. You got a guy who's got an illegal – and he's like – let's suppose he's like a really evil person who's killed kids before or whatever. Let's make him as worse possible – who shouldn't have these guns. You know he's armed. You know there's a girl in there, and he was with his parents, I believe. You know there's people there in there. He was with his parents, I believe. You know there's people there. You stake out that house. You wait until he leaves to go to 7-Eleven.

You knock on the door where mom and the girlfriend go, here's our warrant. Get the F out of our way. We're going to search this house from attic to basement. We're going to tear apart the furniture. But you get to be alive and you go stand in the corner. Everyone, including the gun people would be like if you have if i have to choose between these two scenarios i'm choosing this one the idea of a no

knock i i said this line on glenn beckett i'll say it again i'll say it till i'm dead in the face even stalin had the courtesy to knock you laugh but think about it even the kgb germany you're at night you're terrified because oh my God, it's 2 in the morning. They're coming to take us to the gulag. The fact that you could shoot guns blazing for an American who might have guns, it's not like he has – look, if he had a kid hostage, if this is an imminent terror threat, I can wrap my head around it very, very easily. What was their claim against him? That he had guns he shouldn't have. He has some red flag law.

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So this was – there was not even a? That he had guns he shouldn't have. He had some red flag law. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So this was executed. There was not even a claim that he was an imminent threat to anyone. So the premise behind no-knock raids,

let's also explain it because it sounds so psychotic, is we have to do these because otherwise the person might destroy the evidence. Now, I can even wrap my head if it's a Coke dealer and he's going to flush the Coke

down the toilet. Why they don't just shut off the water in that case doesn't make sense to me and is really risking these officers lives worth of cocaine you can still flush toilet even sure the point is you're not flushing those guns down the toilet you cannot destroy an armada an arsenal of guns in even a long period of time yeah and these people are murderers and by the, this is why I say all cops are criminals. How much money would it take Gretchen Whitmer to tell you to put on body armor and at 3 in the morning shoot someone in their sleep or break down their door while they're in bed at age 23 with their pregnant girlfriend? If you can take any kind of money to do that, you are a monster. All right.

Charles Baliosian says, welcome to Tim Pool Bets. Everyone demand a jury trial. The state can't process all of us. Convicts strong together. Don't bend the knee. Let's go. Crackbot says, Tim, aren't you the one saying the Kenosha kid was going to get life in prison? So what makes you think that they would get a fair trial?

I'm not entirely convinced they would. There was a lot of people politically fighting on their behalf. I do think the Kenosha kid will likely get life in prison on these charges. I still think he needs to fight and not plead guilty. Imagine if Kyle Rittenhouse was like, I'm going to plead guilty to felony assault with a deadly weapon instead of two counts of murder because at least then he'll only go for 25 years. Nah, he needs to fight and he needs to win and he needs all the support he can get i i tim i also think it's very hard for maybe for me maybe not for you because you've actually been arrested when you're in that environment i think it's very very hard to think rationally and i think the longer you spend in that prison the more you think this is going to be this is

what i'm looking at for the rest of my life i i can't do this i can't do this i'll take whatever i can like like a rat in a sinking ship that's what I imagine is psychology for a lot of these people, and I don't blame them. It's by design. It's dehumanizing, and it's torture, too, especially if you're in solitary confinement, which a lot of people are. I will stress this about Kyle to make sure I'm clear. I wish none of that ever happened. It's a horrifying tragedy, and I think any violence that comes from the state afterwards is just making everything worse. So at this point, I hope there's a fair trial and we'll see what comes of it. But we've had we've had what, four or five witnesses in here telling us about what happened. And we even had destiny. He's a leftist. He said it was the clearest case of self-defense

he'd ever seen. And he got banned on Twitch for saying that he got removed from their partner program. So anyway, look, I think you won't always get a fair trial. But I think if enough people stood up and demanded their rights, we could have an impact before it's too late. Yeah, I think you're right that it instills panic and that we almost need some sort of like military training to stay calm in the face of authority. Or just be from Eastern Europe. Yeah. Be steeled. Right?

We got a really, really big super chat that was retracted. It was 500 bucks. But I... You could retract super chats? Yeah. No, no, no. The message was deleted. The super chats.

Who's it by? I don't know if I should read it because they took their comment away, right? Does the name start with G? No. Okay. No, it's a long name. Wow. Thank you.

Man, that's soda money. Fudrucker 3000. That's not actually what the name is. That's the worst of the Fudruckers. Well, that's not the name they actually put, though. The name is the other one. Yeah. I had the opportunity to be on a local trial twice.

First time, it was heavily implied that a child was abused. Second, it was clearly about attempted murder. Jury nullification isn't as simple as liberals dream it to be. Yeah, us liberals. second it was clearly about attempted murder jury nullification isn't as simple as liberals dream it to be yes liberals you know i've i've uh i don't think i'd ever get chosen for a jury ever because i have like a uh i have a policy of i will almost always say not guilty in almost every circumstances someone who shall remain nameless when they're doing jury selection went up to them and said i'm an anarchist and i will not vote to convict under any circumstances. And they said, too bad. You're on the grand jury.

And I'm like, or whoever that person was, was like, all right, let's see what let's dance. I'd absolutely say I will not convict. Well, I say 99 percent. Look, if they come and they're like, here's a video of him beating a child to death, I'd be like. And whoever this person was certainly did convict because there there are cases where it's like weed but there's also cases like this guy tied up his adopted mom and raped and killed her it's like okay this is not uh anarchist versus

right right right this is this is this person should be not be on the streets ever again but i would i would inform them like unless you can present not just evidence beyond a reasonable doubt but like clear evidence proving guilt my personal philosophy is jury nullification and advocacy of to all other jurors so i'm more than happy to be on your jury to advocate to all the other jurors how we can nullify this discharge yeah and if they say okay oh cool i'm down i'm not trying to fight you i'm telling you my philosophy so you know yeah and if they want me on they still be it you know and we all know also to homer simpson's advice on how to get our jury duty which one was that uh to say you're prejudiced against all races uh so phoenix gold says tim's crossfire idea malice and vosh it would leave me speechless you know the rest uh vosh has agreed to come

back on are you familiar with vosh no oh somewhat isn't he like a socialist yeah i think he's a socialist he's a prominent leftist youtube personality and i told him i would love to have him come back with with another person but i don't want it to be an unfair kind of ambush. So if I got the foremost leading expert on some field to come in between two commentators, I'm not all about that. So I said, if there's someone

you want to bring that, you know, he's like, I don't think it matters. Let me know. And so I started reaching out to a few people I thought would be good to have. You know what I really would like to do is people who are clearly at odds in the political spectrum but focus on subject matter that doesn't cross crossover right okay so you know finding someone who's maybe a bitcoiner libertarian to talk with someone who's like a critical race theorists or like have that discussion where it's like they they don't tweet about each other but here we are

we'll find some agreement on something and disagreements on other things. So that's what I'm thinking about with inviting Vosh back. Obviously critical race theory is one of the bigger components because of what's happening today. You see any advocate of that? Yeah. Okay. So we had a conversation with him here, and I think – I'll put it this way actually. I had a conversation on Facebook today.

Someone posted a meme that was actually really critical of critical race theory. And the leftists didn't know that they posted an anti-critical race theory meme. And then argued with me about it because they thought it was pro-critical race theory. So it said, it was a woman saying, would you like to learn the history of racism in the United States? And I said, watch out. She could be teaching critical race theory. The joke is the left comes in and says, we're just teaching about racism. But watch out, it's actually racist identitarianism or indoctrination.

But these leftists genuinely thought critical race theory was literally just history. And so when I... That's what Chris Wallace said during the debate. And so when I countered and said, here's an example of what they're teaching in schools, it was an article from the Sacramento School Board arguing for creating white racial identity groups. I said, I don't know how we're better serving our children by telling them to form white racial identitarian groups. And they said, what are you talking about? This post is about teaching history.

And I said, you didn't say history. You said critical race theory. And they were like, I don't think you know what you're talking about. And I said, I just sent you a link to this thing. They're teaching in schools that white people should have a white racial awakening and should form groups of only white people to discuss their race. And I said, let me ask you a question. If you believe that white people are colonizers, do you think that putting a bunch of white

people together and telling them to discuss their racial identity would result in more or less racism from these people? And they were like, well, I think they'll learn the right lesson and become good people. And I was like, is that why the alt-right became so prominent for the amount of time they did? Because learning about racial identitarianism made them peaceful, anti-racist or something. I think it just told them to form racial identity groups, which they did. Whether it's positive or negative is irrelevant. But this is what they genuinely believe. So Vosch, I don't want to put words in his mouth at this point, but I think during the conversation was generally of the opinion that critical race theory is simply an academic theory analyzing the intersection of race and policy, which it's not.

That's what they claim it to be. But when you actually look at what they say, and they talk about race as property, it's Martin Bailey. It's a racial identitarian ideology, which, so I'll put it this way. Critical race theory is the academic theory based in racial identitarianism. That's, there you go. So when they come and say, it's just a theory, say, sure, sure.

But the theory that forms this, the ideology that forms these theories is a perception of racial identitarianism as being paramount. I oppose racial and identitarian. We've only had. You have to. You're mixed race. Well, of course.

It's nowhere for you to go. Right. So this is what I tell people. The world has existed as an identitarian civilization since the dawn of time. We've only had 56 years of an attempt at anti-identitarian law. Critical race theory seeks to reimpose. This is a reactionary ideology.

They oppose the revolution that we had 56 years ago. It's not even been, people are still alive. My family, still alive, who went through identitarian laws, that exactly what the critical race theory seek to impose. They want to undo the hard work that my family and many others did. And it's very, very simple. I don't understand, you know, these people, this guy I'm arguing with is a white guy.

And I was like, you're a white man telling a mixed race person that you seek to impose law based on race, which would cause extreme harm to my family. Of course I oppose you. And they say, well, shut up. We don't care. Yeah, of course. So that yeah and they say well shut up we don't care yeah of course yeah so that's why i talk about the way i do if people are interested in this james lindsey was on my show you guys had him on yeah yeah he's great he's me and him go go back and forth for an hour really getting into the details of this so if you go on youtube uh james

lindsey michael malice you can find that it's one of my best episodes what's the metaphor of you brought up oh so mont bailey i talked about this in the new right it's a that it's one of my best episodes. What's the metaphor of Mott and Bailey you brought up? Oh, so Mott and Bailey, I talk about this in the new right. It's a technique. It's a very common once you identify it, you can't not see it. See it everywhere. Where you have basically the Mott and the Bailey. I forget which is which. You have the castle and then you have the grounds, right? I believe the Mott is the hill. The hill. Okay. So basically

what will happen is... Are you sure? That's kind of secondary. Okay. So they will have a premise which is indisputable. Then they'll have a premise which is ridiculous, right? So it'll be like, okay, we need to eradicate racism in America and have people be treated fairly.

Okay, I'm agree with that. Then you agree that people who are economic minorities should go to college for free. I'm like, whoa. But you just agree that we need to eradicate racism. So they just vacillate between, they get you to agree to something that you can't not disagree with. Then they extrapolate that to what they think is organic. And when you argue with the extrapolation, they retreat back into the area of agreement as if that premise therefore covers what they're extrapolating to.

You said the Mott was the hill. I think – I thought so. You're correct. The Mott's the hill. The Bailey is the open field. The Mott is the hill where think i thought correct okay the bailey is the open field the mott is the hill where the keep is on top and so yes so that's what they were doing they're like saying i want to explore the history of politics and race in america that's extremely germane everyone wants that's very fascinating what was it like being black in new york in the 1700s i

would love to know right so therefore we need to teach where race is. No, no, no, no. I'm not for that. Well, you just said. I think it's the other way around, actually. What they'll do is they'll say, we need racial identitarian law and affirmative action. And then when you say, I think it's wrong that you're telling a child simply by looking the way you do, you don't get to go to Harvard. And they say, what are you talking about? We're just trying to teach the history of racism. Yeah, exactly. Constantly. Exactly. And that's exactly what they did. So my We're just trying to teach the history of racism. Yeah, exactly.

Constantly. Exactly. And that's exactly what they did. So my response to this guy's critical race theory thing. And they may not even do it intentionally. They're just trained to see these things as synonymous. But I do think I got through to some of these people because I think a lot of them genuinely don't understand what they're talking about. They just watch CNN and then believe the lies.

Yes. And so my response was. The training. You have to use the Socratic method. I don't approach these people as enemies. I simply agree with them. When they post this meme, I just immediately was like,

I think teaching children in schools to form white racist groups is a bad idea. And then when they're like, what are you talking about? Here's a link. And then they read it and they go, I don't understand. And I'll be like,

that's what they're teaching in these schools. And then we get into an argument because they want to defend their tribe. But eventually I said, ultimately, the end of the conversation, I was like, it sounds like we agree that I think we need to teach the true history of racism and colonization. Like everybody knows Christopher Columbus didn't discover America. They were already people here and he didn't even land in America anyway. But you can argue to the Europeans. It was the first time Europeans had contact. So I think understanding the context is very important. Now, I think we also agree telling a bunch of white kids to form a group based on just

being white and discover their right racial identity. Probably not a good thing, right? No. Well, of course. Great. Here's the literature. Here's what they're saying. It's really it's really amazing how the leftists will accuse conservatives of not knowing anything

about critical race. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, well, perhaps the what's being argued? It's really amazing how the leftists will accuse conservatives of not knowing anything about critical race theory. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, well, perhaps what's being argued, because I'll say this. I could have done a way better job in my discussion with Vosch for sure. But when we talk about critical race theory, there are certain very obvious grievances and things that are happening that we're concerned about. I'm not complaining about Derrick Bell writing some literature. I don't care about his opinions.

I'm not complaining about Ibram X. Kendi writing a book. He's allowed to write a book. What I'm complaining about is applied critical theory. And I think one of the problems that conservatives have, they keep saying critical race theory over and over again, and that is the left's battleground. They immediately then say, oh, well, here's Kimberly Crenshaw. We don't teach Kimberly Crenshaw in schools. What they're doing is applied racial theory or what they call, they call it critical race praxis. So what happens is they take the theories, turn it into an indoctrination and then slip it into every subject. So when you say critical race theory, the immediate response is, I don't think we've had a lecture on Derrick Bell once in fifth grade. That's absurd. And you're like, that's not what

I'm talking about. That's what critical race theory is. So, all right, let's read a couple more here. Buttertoast says, Reno May posted a video today about a Cali police department that illegally took high-capacity magazines from a guy

that could legally own them, then proceeded to tell the owner that even if a court order was given, he wouldn't get them back. See? Yep. Criminal. Yep, yep.

I'm pretty sure that's like just stealing. Yeah. It is. Yeah. Well, the state's doing it, so it's fine, right? All right. We'll do two more. Have you ever heard of taxes? Yeah. Delana Manuel says, Michael, I just joined your locals.

I came across the autobiography of Ukrainian immigrant Alexander Sass-Jaworski. I'll post more details on your local feed. Okay. Thank you. Came across the autobiography of Ukrainian immigrant Alexander Sass Jaworski. I'll post more details on your local feed. Okay, thank you. And just in line with the last conversation, Samuel Harris says, Tim. The Samuel Harris? The Samuel Harris.

Tim, how do you respond to people who call you white or white passing in order to shut down your opinion in discussions around race? Do you pee pee in their coke? I immediately start screaming at the top of my lungs. I call them racist over and over again. And I say, racist said what? Racist says what? So I've had this happen to me many times. And one of the issues is it is a big excuse. And then I say, like, well, I get it from my whole life.

People told me that I was Mexican. White people tend to say I'm Mexican. People who aren't white tend to say I'm white. So what am I supposed to do? I don't exist in any of their worlds. I'm always an other. There are some places where I blend in perfectly. I was in Egypt, and they were like, you don't got to worry about a thing.

People will think you're Egyptian, and I was able to walk around. But here's the other thing. Fifteen years ago, and remember this is on The Real World. There was a character, Piggy I think was even her name. It was Real World London, I'm thinking. There was so much hand-wringing about mixed-race people and how they don't fit in anywhere. And there's girls who are like half black, half white. And the black girls tell them they're too white, and the white girls are racist.

And we need to have more representation of multiracial people. When you have the census, what am I supposed to check off? My dad's Chinese and my mom's Hispanic. There's no box for me. And this was a big conversation. This was a big move about leftism. And now that you have the CRT thing, it's just like, yeah, we don't care about that. That was just kind of an excuse.

I mean, no, no. I've straight up had these CRT people like essentially tell me that i'm uh uh uh chopped liver i'm i'm a second class citizen yeah during occupy wall street they said too effing bad it is for us and not for you yeah and i'm like we're the smallest minority in the country not only that we're not cohesive someone who's like you know uh black and asian is very different looking from someone who's white and asian or who's hispanic and you know uh middle eastern or something i'm like not only are we the smallest minority but in our own individual groups we're even smaller of a minority and they say we don't care yeah that's what at occupy wall street they told me to just go screw myself yeah they

said you get to go leave leave you're not part of this you don't get a group you don't get advocacy no one's going to support you right and i was like well then screw you guys i'm going home yeah and i'll make my own wall street with with with blackjack with blackjack that's right just blackjack though all right yeah just just blackjack it's got to be legal ladies and gentlemen if you haven't already give it give that like button a good smash and subscribe to this channel but make sure you go to timcastCast.com, become a member, because we're going to talk about some kooky conspiracy nonsense. I was reading a post on 4chan and I had a good, I was like, this is a great sci-fi film. Seriously, it's a really good sci-fi film. And people genuinely believe this stuff. So we're going to talk about that. Should be up around 11. You can follow us on Facebook

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Thank you so much. And I love the cover. We didn't talk about the cover on air. It's some sort of vapor. How did you describe it? I didn't describe it, Ian. Okay, so it's like a vapor wave looking. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look at that. It's just cool style. That's how I started the cover. John Gergis did this cover. He also did my theme song for my podcast. What I did with this cover, this is what I realized. Everything that we as old,

like very online people are used to, corporations haven't thought of doing it yet. So Vaporwave, which is like this like 1980s Miami look, which is like it's been been there, done that on the internet like 2017, yawn. But I knew no corporate publisher

would have a cover that looks like this because that hasn't percolated yet. So I would be able to have a cover like this that no one else had and it would really pop from the screen, and I'm ecstatic with it. And this is Louis Ling. He was the first Che Guevara. He was the big stud of anarchy, and we gave him a little dynamite lapel pin. Oh, very nice.

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