Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #314 - GameStop Stock Apes WIN, Hedge Fund COLLAPSES w/Steve Bannon

Episode Date: June 23, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host former White House advisor and podcaster Steve Bannon to discuss the hedge fund collapse at the hands of the meme stocks buyers, the information warfare we are seeing, Steve's desire to tax the rich, Google's strange ties to Wuhan funding, the book The Fourth Turning and what it means for us today, and the role of the shadow state in maintaining ongoing wars in the Middle East. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The GameStop apes have actually won a very serious battle. A hedge fund that bet against GameStop, which managed $440 million, announced it is shutting down amid double-digit losses, percentage-wise. This is huge. This could be one of the, this may be one of the biggest stories, but there are a lot of really big stories. Because it's not just that, it's also a new report coming out from the National Pulse showing that Google was actually providing funding to Wuhan-linked virus research through EcoHealth Alliance.

And then all the censorship kind of, well, I don't want to necessarily say it absolutely makes sense, but it raises some eyebrows. You know, like Google wants to censor a lot of talk about lab leak that was going on last year, taking down a lot of channels for misinformation, and now we find out that through their foundation, they were providing funding for similar and Wuhan-linked virus research.

Wow. Well, that's going to be dangerous, and maybe we'll get banned. If we don't get banned for that, we'll probably get banned because Steve Bannon's hanging out with us. How's it going, man? It's going very well. Do you want to just briefly introduce yourself? I'm Steve Bannon. There you go.

Great. Your producer said be brief. It's as tough as a tight ship over here. No, I'm sure. I'm going to go make a section. Well, look, I'm honored to be here because your audience is an audience that, you know, we're on the populist right. You know, you came out of the Occupy Movement. You're the populist right. You know, you came out of the Occupy movement. You're the populist left. I think there's a lot of commonality. I think today the

story of the apes transcends politics. I think it cuts to the heart. It's one of the most important stories in the world, what I call, you know, the verticals of work of the populist movement. And it blew up a hedge fund today in London and more to come. More to come as they buy and hold and do not retreat. This group of basically deplorables, or the little guy, or the common man, whatever you want to say, is relentless. And they're marching to the heart of the competence and corruption that is the rigged casino that is Wall Street. And I'll tell you how rigged it is. On the way up here, kind of getting ready for maybe some topics, Seeking Alpha, a great site right out there, a great financial site with short stories, has a headline, AMC, time to sell, right?

And so I read this, and it's got this very fundamental analysis about the stocks overvalued, net present value, all this stuff, and it's all these reasons that this thing is going to collapse price-wise. And you get all the way down to the bottom. And the guy says, for full disclosure, the very bottom tiny print, full disclosure, I'm short. I said, you can't make this up. Are you kidding? Seeking alpha.

Why don't you put that in the headline? A short says, it's time for you guys. That guy is sweating bullets. Oh, sure he is. His losses are infinite. It's the sweet hour of prayer for all these smart guys. This is the power of, I think, the apes. Having gone to Harvard Business School and having worked at Goldman Sachs in the merger department,

back then it was the elite of the elite, is you see these people crowdsourcing. And this is how modern technology has disintermediated institutions. The reason your show is so big, the reason we can do the war room, you know, where we do it and we get traction. It's not like the old days. His recent Trump, one of the reasons Trump won the presidency was Twitter. He could disintermediate the mainstream media. Right. What you're seeing with the crowdsourcing of financial knowledge, we had Brittany Avery, one of the apes on the other day.

She's the young woman that's done the mother of two in Missoula, Montana, that has done these billboards of the apes on the other day, she's the young woman that's done the, a mother of two in Missoula, Montana, that has done these billboards of the apes. We should, I don't want to do too much. But she comes on and says, hey, I said, she says, oh, you know, I'm just in this stock. And I said, well, when did you buy it? She goes, January, first time I bought a stock. And I go, oh, what was the price? $2.

The stock's at 60. Guys on Wall Street dying out for a career on that trade. I bought it too. I got my stock's at 60 guys on wall street dying out for a career on that trade right i bought it too i got my clients out at 60 they will literally get clients the rest of their life on that one trade and she's saying oh yeah i just kind of bought it too and but her knowledge the collective knowledge we're gonna get in all that too so i don't want to do too much just yet we'll go through the intros so uh but without uh i don't think we need to introduce you beyond you're steve bannon to be completely honest i think we need to introduce you beyond your steve man and to be completely honest i think most people know who you are ian he's i heard billboard of apes

i'm sold that sounds awesome to me uh great good to see you man hey thanks for having me and then i'm also here in the corner i'm very excited for this conversation i'm really going to get into it especially about populism which i think absolutely transcends party so i'm stoked about amen before we get, head over to Timcast.com. Become a member, because I'll tell you this. There are a lot of things YouTube doesn't, a lot of people talk about. I mentioned this briefly in the intro. There's a new story showing that Google was actually providing funding for some of this Wuhan-linked virus research, which I think is going to piss off a lot of people at Google. So here's what we have to do. We accept where we win.

We accept where we can lose. And one of the opportunities here is we set up TimCast.com. The new website is launching in a couple of weeks. We have a new news section. We have Cassandra Fairbanks writing. We just hired another writer who's going to be doing unexplained culture-building stuff, mysteries kind of articles. And we're going to have a bonus segment with Steve up around 11 p.m. after the show. We're going to record another segment where we're going to get into a lot of these subjects that we would be instantly banned on YouTube for talking about.

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They put up billboards. Let's see if we can beat them. Let's jump into this first story. We'll kick back off where we just were with these hedge funds. Check this story out. This is amazing. I want to get a standing ovation to the GameStop, the AMC, the meme stock apes. This is incredible.

You've taken out a hedge fund look at the cnet reports hedge fund that bet against gamestop is closing down it's game over for white square white square capital it managed 440 million dollars in assets at its peak it sent a letter to investors outling plans to close down the main fund this month and return investor capital following a review of the business model according to the report, they're announcing a double digit percentage loss suffered by the first meme stock rally in January. And oh boy, it's only just begun. So now what you have is, and correct me if I'm wrong, Steve, you have a lot of these big hedge funds that they manipulate the game. It's a manipulated casino. It's a rigged

game. They can short a company. Then their friends in the media say, oh, this company's bad and it's going to crash. You better sell now, causing the stock price to plummet. And then the short sellers make off like bandits, stripping and manipulating all of us. So what happens is these meme stock apes are like, so these people have no choice but to buy stocks to cover their shorts? Yes. So that means if we all buy them right now and the price goes up, they're forced to buy them from us? Yes. Let's play.

Now hedge funds just imploded. Can they alternately declare bankruptcy and just wash the debt? The hedge funds. They're leveraged. Here's the issue. Remember, the deplorables are the common man's on both sides of the trade. You have the ape army that is just a collection of several million of people throwing in money and buying and holding these traditional companies, okay? And the stock price goes up because they refuse to sell.

The shorts that are the naked shorts, all that money they're managing is essentially pension fund money. And what they're doing is they're using and they're doing this naked shorts and using leverage to really not just destroy the companies but to speculate this is this is this is not hedging is a natural part of wall street to hedge certain long positions this is not that this is where you're in high speculation to basically make a profit on destroying companies and leaking information here's where the real game is last summer Steve Cortez, who's the great guy over at Newsmax and a trader for 30 years, he saw these meme stocks,

and last year, and he does thousands of trades a year, he tried to buy GameStop, right? First time in his life. Not margin, but in an online account, he had cash money in. First time in 30 years on Wall Street, he couldn't buy the stock. They were protecting the hedge funds

against the stock going up. So you couldn't, and this is a big controversy, Robin, you couldn't execute the buy, which is, on Wall Street, sometimes you can't sell because of restrictions, but hey, you want a stock, boom, you got cash, not leverage, boom, you can buy it. This is

how the casino is rigged. And this is why this transcends politics because here you have this ape army of just everyday americans and they're teaching each other they're teaching you so i mean britney avery was on she sounded like a trader goldman sachs woman's been in the stock since january she's talking about dips and shoulders and you know and they get naked options and the lane the calls are coming i mean i'm sitting there going wow this is not bad where'd she learn it she learned it and they go naked options and the calls are coming. I mean, I'm sitting there going, wow, this is not bad. Where did she learn it?

She learned it and they go online. They teach each other. This is a community. And I'm telling you, Charlie Gasparino and all the Wall Street press, the Wall Street Seeking Alpha has the guy in the short position who's sweating bullets, who writes the article. They are trying to force these guys to sell for every host of reason to save a citadel capital in the big highly leveraged funds.

And this is why it's one of the most, it's applied populism. This is not people talking about it. This is people doing it. And I'm not telling the audience to go buy the stock. What I definitely would do is seek out this community and find out more about it. You will learn more about practical finance. If you don't know anything about the stock market, if you don't know anything about economics, you don't know anything about finance, I think these people will teach you.

And they will teach you what the reality is. And this is still, and you come from the Occupy movement. I mean, this is the problem we've had since the crash. The problem we've had since the crash in 2008 is that the 1% has gotten – it's insane because Obama is the most progressive president in history. The solution at the time was to basically blow up the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve, increase assets, and let all people who own stocks and real estate just – they went from $880 billion in the Fed's balance sheet to $4.5 trillion. That money was infused in the system to save the system, okay, on the shoulders of the little guy. It was them paying for the bailouts. It was your taxes and also the negative

interest rate. The interest rates went to zero. Zero interest rates kills the little guy because you can never accumulate any capital. You don't get any interest on your money marker, any savings account. It's destroyed. This is why I say the millennials are nothing more than Russian serfs. They're better educated. You're in better shape. You have more access to information. You don't own anything, and you're not going to own anything. And today, BlackRock and Blackstone are buying up every house in the country

because of zero interest rates. They're going to get the upside of the assets. You're going to pay the rent. They keep saying in the Davos, oh, just be a renter. Don't need to own anything. You'll have no skin in the game. You'll just be a serf, oh, just be a renter. Don't need to own anything. You'll have no skin in the game. You'll just be a serf. You're just going to be a serf.

Let's expand on that. You mentioned the Seeking Alpha article. I pulled it up where it says, an open letter to the apes, the stock market in reality. The original title was, emotion may tell you to buy, reason will tell you to sell. Then once you get all the way to the bottom, as Steve mentioned, I scrolled all the way to the bottom, and he says, disclosure, I am, we are short AMC. I wrote this article myself

and as it expresses my own opinions, I'm not receiving compensation for it other than seeking alpha. I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article. Additional disclosure, I have sold AMC calls. I also own MGIC, MTG stock I briefly mentioned yeah he's against the wall no first he sounds like your father he's patting you on the head and telling you about it

then he gives it then he's the voice of reason it sounds so great at the end of it all you want to do is get out of the stock and you're right and then you see i gotta get out of the stock honey we gotta dump it so this is how the media tries to rip off little guy this these people they come in, they short a stock, and then once the apes come back and they start saying, hey, we're going to fight back, you see all these articles come out saying it's bad, it's a bad idea, don't buy, don't do it. CNBC doesn't even say the word naked shorts. But let me tell you something else. You mentioned BlackRock. Have you seen how many articles there are right now saying millennials don't buy a house? Or how many articles say a recent poll says millennials hate owning homes?

Don't like it. Don't like it. This is the great reset and build back better. The party of Davos, if you go to Davos, the World Economic Forum, that commercial, it starts up by, we don't need to own anything and we're going to be happier. Right? You will own nothing and you will be happier. You will own nothing and you will be happier. And then all of a sudden, and here's the thing.

You're paying for it. I want to go back to the great Alex Jones. He said it, information warfare. What this is, there's three types of warfare, as the Chinese teaches in unrestricted warfare. There's information warfare, which includes cyber, but propaganda. There's economic warfare. And there's kinetic warfare guns bombs everything like that and sun tzu teaches you hey i wanted to defeat them before we get to kinetic foreign

devils what i want to do is information and uh economic warfare there is information in economic warfare against the working class and middle class in the world today okay and this is why this ape army is bringing up that article is sophisticated information warfare. Psychologically, it's very persuasive, both from an emotional point of view and then at the end, the reason point of view. You actually think your father, your smart uncle is actually sitting there going,

take the profits, sell the stock, sell the stock because the hedge funds are jammed. And then at the bottom, full disclosure, oh, I'm short. That should be at the top. The disclosure should be the first thing you read. A hundred percent. If it was fair, it's a rigged casino.

The casino is rigged, and their friends make all the profits. There's a thing called Archegos that was this family office, the new scam. This family office imploded a couple weeks ago making all these trades, but it was the banks. There's $20 billion of losses by Morgan Stanley, by UBS, by Nomura Securities, billions and billions of dollars, okay, of all pension funds. That's all the deplorable money is wiped out.

Reason? The latest scam they have. The hedge funds are virtually unregulated. The family offices are zero regulation. This is all the super wealthy. We've created what the revolution in 1776 was against was it landed aristocracy in the United Kingdom, in England. We have created a global aristocracy that's purpose in life is to make sure the little guy never gets off the mat, and they will use any type of information economic warfare to do that i want to go back to something you mentioned you mentioned

that i came from occupy and it was and that's populist left and that's true but the people that i used to that i that i know that uh i met during occupy are authoritarian establishment left now they're no longer populist libertarian left. They're absolutely toe the line for the FBI, support the Fed, support the war. I tweeted something. I posted this on Facebook too. I said the greatest de-radicalization in the history

of the United States, the activist left who used to oppose the federal government, who were supporting the hackers, who were supporting people like Weave. The best free speech people in the world, the ACLU. All of a sudden are posting in support of the FBI, the CIA, are saying it's wrong to end the wars because it'll create a power vacuum.

And I'm like, wow. I said this woman I know, she was part of the hacker community, not necessarily a big hacker herself, but she was friends with all of them. She was very active during Occupy, and she posted when the feds raided Giuliani's apartment and office. She was like, yay. And I said, incredible to see you finally recognizing what was wrong with your radicalism and supporting the FBI and the federal government. The people, of course, you were protesting quite literally for five years. And they don't understand. One person who went to prison for hacking said, well, better they use it on my opponents than me.

And I was like, so you're an authoritarian who likes the use of governmental force to shut down your rivals? I was like, bro, didn't you protest that exact thing? Weren't you one of the people like championing Julian Assange and complaining about his unlawful detainment? Or I shouldn't say unlawful because they certainly claim it is, but the unethical, amoral detainment of Julian Assange, now all of a sudden you're happy? The federal government just goes and does whatever they want? I don't know what happened to these people.

No, Lord Acton told us about it. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. This is about power. That's right. This is about power. They now have power. And here's the thing. Think back to the 60s and 70s. The New York

Times, the Washington Post, the great investigative reporting against the corruption in the CIA, what was happening in the CIA and the FBI, that led to the Church Commission. All the checks and balances we kind of had in Congress, the special committees and the ability to have the gang of eight and review all this.

This all came from essentially liberal or left, center left or liberal, the bastions of liberal media in the 60s and 70s that led to these investigations that should have been done and had to be done. Those places today, the New York Times and the Washington Post, are the vanguard of protection of a national security apparatus. I'm a foreign naval officer. My daughter went to West Point. You know, our whole family, my kid brother that's here today is a Navy pilot.

All of us serve. We're the biggest of those guys that are sitting there going, this apparatus is out of control. It's out of control against every American. I love this. I wonder if, let me start over. People have tried to figure out what left and right means in this day and age. It certainly meant something 20 years ago, I guess. Maybe it didn't. During Occupy, it certainly did. You had the libertarian right, you had the libertarian left. Wokeness came into Occupy and really did a number in destroying a lot of it.

And I wonder if that was intentional. There's a comic we referenced where it's a wealthy guy in a big office and there's protesters saying, Occupy Wall Street outside. He's on the phone and he goes, introduce identity politics. That was one of the big things that really helped break apart the libertarians who showed up to Occupy Wall Street. They leave as soon as this stuff pops into place. But I wonder if there is a big, if the issue is populist versus elitist or authoritarian versus libertarian these are core components i think it's populist versus elitist and nationalist versus globalist the nation state is still the best way to to to to have your to have you not just your values but to have your basic rights but how about the religious framework as well right so if you

look at the woke which is a very large component of the establishment, their moral framework is fascistic. They believe there is no objective truth. There is only power. It was the late David Graeber, who was one of the key organizers of Occupy Wall Street,

who actually said this. He tweeted out, big element of the left today is that this fascistic belief there is no truth but power. And so you look at the Judeo-Christian moral framework, which is far from perfect, but there's a lot of aspects of it, like Blackstone's formulation rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. I bring this up.

I don't want to riff too much on this, but I think, you know, we try to figure out what left and right means, and it's hard to know for sure. But I do think the biggest aspect might just be, will you be honest and fair with someone and their rights to individualism? Or do you think those in power should wield it against anyone who would oppose them? Well, I think that's what the globalists are. I think the globalists are totally materialistic and they prepare, the power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And they feel they have absolute power. I think everything on the cultural side are just things, a lot of things are just thrown out there. I'm still in economic and financial power.

People that have that power actually control things. And they're trying to do other, I think one of the things, you saw what Mao did and the Bolsheviks did to try to break the traditional family. The key is to break the family. You see that here with a lot. What happened here, I think, with what I call cultural Marxism is still to have these struggle sessions to try to break the nuclear family and to break that. Just like Mao. That was the whole thing of the Cultural Revolution was to break that.

Same thing with the Bolsheviks. You mentioned we talked about this article from Seeking Alpha where the guy says, hey, you know, you should sell your AMC stocks. And then finally at the bottom, he says, by the way, I'm short, which means he's screwed and needs you to sell. And you said it was sophisticated information warfare. Are you familiar with fourth and fifth generational warfare? Yes. So a big component being information manipulation. You mentioned the art of war, that you want to finish the war before you get to kinetic.

You do manipulation economics. And so I'm just reigniting those components as I point to the book you have in front of you, The Fourth Turning. And we talked about this with – I think it was Ben Stewart, right? The Fourth Turning, which is – I believe it's Strassau Generational Theory, which essentially is predicting that we are about to enter. We are entering a period of strife, the winter season, which could mean a very serious. Oh, we're in it. We're in it. We're in the crisis, yeah.

So the crisis period. Beginning of the crisis period. We're past the unraveling. So I will, I'll just give people a quick introduction and we'll jump into it. 80 years ago, what did we have? What do you mean, after World War II? World War II. World War II, yes.

The crisis. Yes. 80 years before World War II. The Civil War. 80 years before the Civil War. The Civil War. 80 years before the Civil War. The American Revolution. That's right. So because of that, people are saying, hey, three for three, right?

What's the next big conflict? So I wonder, is it this internal conflict in the United States between the establishment powers, which does absolutely extend to international interests for sure, but you've got the culture war here. And then you also have the conflict with China, which is on the horizon. Taiwan, they just flew 28 warplanes, the most ever, into the Taiwanese defense zone in the air. And what's it going to be? Is it neither? Can they see that? You should get.

I'll raise it up a little bit. And I recommend everybody read this book, right? It's very dense. This is not a beach read, okay? This is a very dense book, but it is worth struggling with and working yourself through it. It's a real thing to read books today and not just stuff online. So get that Strauss and Howe.

It's very... As soon as I heard about it and got it, it's been very helpful for me as a framework. It's not perfect like any theory is, but it talks about different generations and every generation kind of raises the other differently. But if you look back in American history from the Revolution to the Civil War to the Great Depression, World War II to today, it has a certain pattern to it. And one of the things that people, particularly in the news business, those people I see that are always ahead of the curve understand pattern recognition.

Pattern recognition. And these guys clearly saw it. No, I think today, I think we're hurtling towards a couple of crises. One is obviously a global financial crisis that I think could make everything else before us look like child's play. The other is a massive geopolitical crisis. Remember, you go back to classic geopolitics, McKinder, right now on the Eurasian landmass, which American foreign policy since 1914 is to make sure that no power or combinations of power control the Eurasian landmass. Because the world island, which the Western Hemisphere is kind of an island off of the world island, the world island that pivoted that Central Asia in those spots, control the world. Now you have China with its partners, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, and Russia, right? And we kind of forced Russia over that.

We had every opportunity to break it off. They are now working almost in concert, right, almost with one belt, one road also. But everything is focused around getting off the U.S. dollar, getting off the U.S. dollar as the prime reserve currency and the SWIFT system as the system that ties it together. They're looking to work in concert. And they're controlling the Eurasian landmass will lead us to a kinetic war in the South China Sea or on the border of India or somewhere along those fissure points, unless we are wise enough and smart enough to start acting like a great power,

along with our allies. And as long as we continue to act like children and our leadership act like children and to allow the Chinese Communist Party and the party of Davos to infiltrate every aspect of capital markets, Wall Street, our global corporations, all of it, you know, information warfare and economic warfare who have every ability to take this thing down and to do it in 90 days.

Yet the elites in our country refuse to do it. And it's the little guy. This is just like in every other war. It's the little guy that's going to go over there. It's the little guy's kids are going to go over there. They're the ones going to be buried in foreign battlefields. Their taxes are the ones that are going to pay for it. They're going to have the financial strife. And that's why it's time for populist left and populist right that are populist and nationalist to me to transcend politics, see where we agree, put this together, realign the politics in this country, and we can control the country for 100 years. So I'm curious because we had the American Revolution, which was an international conflict, essentially.

Then we had a civil war. Civil war was an internal conflict. Then we had another external conflict. I don't totally agree with that. You don't think so? No. It was also part of a... Remember, Lincoln and these guys were also nationalists. Obviously, slavery drove it, but slavery drove it. Let's leave the moral issues aside, which were horrific. It was also the thing of economics and the exploitation of African Americans for free labor, right? And Lincoln and these guys were nationalists. They were hardcore nationalists. Remember, Lincoln, in his term, built the Transcontinental Railroad, right, passed the Homestead Act, which allowed free land, and set up the land-grant universities, which

allowed the common man's kids to actually go and get an agriculture and technical thing. So these guys were nationalists. They had a nationalist perspective, and the southern plantation aristocracy were part of a globalized system with the United Kingdom that they're even thinking of going to Brazil and South America and start a slave empire down there. That would be part of a global empire. Basically, essentially tied back to the British if they could get around the thing of, hey, we're going to have slaves drive this. Just like the slaves in China. Remember, the slave labor of China drives the entire system today.

We still have slavery. The slavery in China drives the system today. But what I mean to say is the fighting was internal. The fighting was here. Then we had another international conflict overseas. So I wonder if in this fourth turning, are we going to be experiencing an internal conflict? Look, we had the Boston Globe reported that John Podesta said if Biden doesn't win, the West Coast should secede from the union. Forty-eight states were involved in

this lawsuit that got thrown out eventually. And so I'll put it this way. We see the stuff with China. Russia, obviously, South China Sea is big. We just had Russian war games off the coast of 300 miles west of Hawaii, freaked everybody out. You've got President Biden, which many people are concerned he's not up to actually defending Taiwan or being commander in chief at a time of serious war. Silicon Valley West. Yeah. With the chips. We don't have a choice. Right, right.

Exactly. Forget the moral thing. You don't defend. You think you've got to slow down and get in your F-100 truck right now or your refrigerator because of chip shortage. Let thep take over taiwan so uh you mentioned the people who have been successful have been good at pattern recognition and so uh a lot of my success came from my ability to be at the right place at the right time during the occupy era during the vice when i was for vice i would be like here's the place we need to

be i'd fly there and then boom news would explode that i'd happen to be there be able to film it and that's why i got accused of being a fed half the time because they were like, how does Tim know to be in these places for these big stories? It's like, no, I just recognized all the news that was bubbling up and I went and checked it out. For the past several years, I've been, I would say, bullish on some kind of civil war, be it the culture war culminating to a very serious economic crisis. It's been called a cold civil war or even a hot crisis between political factions. I think a lot of people,

like Bill Maher, for instance, he said you couldn't have this because the Mason-Dixon line would go through, you know, grandma's kitchen. But that's because he has no understanding of civil wars internationally. He's fixed on some American idea

where states fought states and not, say, Spain, where you had regions that just diverted into, you know, were dominated by certain ideologies. So I've had a lot of people tell me I'm wrong every step of the way from the start of the street battles, from even Occupy Wall Street that I experienced into the battle for Berkeley, where you had Antifa, Proud Boys.

And it got particularly bad where we're still seeing some of these battles. I don't know if it'll escalate beyond that. But the culture war, the ideological rift, the wokeness, the anti-woke is at the highest point of government. It's in the military. It's in the federal government. It's in the presidency. It's in the opposition of the presidency.

It's in Congress. You've got woke policies, you know, trainings happening in federal government. And I still have people say to me, Tim, you're wrong. There will not be a civil war could never happen here. And now we're at the point where they're still saying it. And then I mentioned January 6th. Like if these people on the left say, Tim's crazy for thinking this. Now I just respond with, on January 6th, a bunch of right-wing people stormed into the Capitol.

A lot of them bumbled in, mind you. The cops opened the doors. But what would you say about that? And then they go quiet. I bring all this up just to see what your thoughts are on the potential for civil war, if that's going to be our fourth turning or if it's going to be international conflict. I think it's a combination of both. And look, on the civil war aspect, it doesn't need to get violent.

I think we're in a pre – if you go back and study history, we're in a nastier, more vitriolic time than before the civil war. Go back and study the 1850s. How long until someone gets caned in Congress? Okay. is this is my point and that was pretty a pretty violent time right a pretty violent time and the passions ran very hot you're in that aspect today but we do not need to devolve it in fact to me the suckers play is to try to get violent this is what i was always against you don't need the insurrection act we're winning we're winning the people in this country are now awakening to the fact of what the economic reality is and how they've been particularly republicans remember all these world corporations and the social media corporations that are shutting down republicans

across the board the last 30 or 40 years of republican orthodoxy has been give them deregulation give them tax cuts the reason i fought the tax cuts that president trump and his tax cuts worked out very well but certain aspects of i wanted to tax the wealthy i wanted to increase the tax rate to 44 percent number one i made the starling thing they don't pay taxes anyway and last week we saw you know merrick garland just remember joe biden's attorney general, Merrick Garland says, my number one priority is to get the leaks of the 25 billionaires that were put out there. And by the way, Mitch McConnell comes out and says, it's my number one priority, too. Merrick Garland says this. Because that story went down the memory hole.

You didn't see story after story in the New York Times about that. You didn't see story after story in even the conservative media. You didn't see story after story and even the conservative media unicef story and story on on on cnbc right 25 billionaires that have control of i don't know 500 billion dollars in assets at least that are reported right half a trillion dollars 25 over the last five years have paid a combination less than 15 billion dollars in taxes that's what i said raise the upper rate because they don't pay taxes now and they can avoid eventually, which is going to be the tax on the assets, because that's going to come. Somebody's got to pay for this. If we're going to have this level of spending, you've got three ways to pay for it.

Either sell the bonds to Japan and China, right? Either raise taxes or you print money. There's one way you could grow out of it, but we're stuck in a low-growth environment because we've so overspent. So now there's one you could grow out of it but we're stuck in in a low growth you know environment because we've so overspent so now there's 30 trillion dollars you know obama because of the what he did to the federal reserve and the zero interest rate we had a 10 trillion during obama's watch and we've added another i think eight trillion during or four trillion two or three trillion during trump's and now we just exploded under biden and it's nowhere it's not stopping now they got this modern, monetary theory.

There's this new theory about it. But hey, that's why everybody's running to crypto, right? That's why everybody's running back to gold and silver. That's why people are prepping. I brought some financial times. And every time you pick it up, it's the global apparatus, regulatory apparatus has one focus in mind. How do I crush crypto?

How do I make sure it's not an alternative store of value like gold and silver are? They don't want you to have an alternative. This is the Bank of International Settlements out of Switzerland, basically, that's running. It's also the central banks. It's the Bank of Tokyo. It's the Bank of England. It's the Federal

Reserve. They're all going to regulate it. And now you can't do these just using blockchain. You can't just be private. They want to get into all the all the checks and balances the ccp is shutting down all the all the farmers themselves to make it tougher what they want to do is they see the ability of crypto and look crypto is not i disagree with president trump it's not a scam there's 2.1 trillion dollars of dollars in the world trading every day right using because you have to convert to dollars to do all trans there's 2.1 trillion dollars out world trading every day, right? Because you have to convert to dollars to do all transactions. There's $2.1 trillion out there, okay, every day, doing transactions all over the world.

I think there's now $2.2 trillion of crypto. So there are scams in it, but it's clearly an alternative. And it's definitely an alternative store of value. It may not feel like that to Bitcoin holders today when you're down at $30,000, but for guys that bought it at $5,000, it is. And it's still an alternative when you look at these other cryptocurrencies. You've got to take your trade.

But the central apparatus wants to take that option away from you. Again, central authority messing things up. This is not financial advice. I'm just saying, if an individual put a portion of their paycheck into Bitcoin every week, like it was a savings account, they would not be upset today because I bought Bitcoin in November. Oh, no. Oh, Bitcoin fell to $30,000. Oh, geez. Imagine if you told someone in November when it was at $13,000 that it was going to crash to $30,000 and people would panic.

They would laugh and be like, oh, buy some right now. I just – to me, it's almost like a savings account. Here's where everybody ought to go. Why does the system, when you're educated, they teach everything in these public schools, even the Catholic schools, Christian schools, but particularly the public schools and in college, you never learn anything about basic finance. Thank you. No, you never do.

They want you to be illiterate. You have to get in the world. Think of your life in your early 20s or 30s when you're on your own. Everything's about, hey, I've got to pay the credit card. I've got to pay rent. You're thrown into the world. They want you to be financially illiterate. The power of the ape army.

And what people are doing, I'm not saying buy meme stocks, and I'm not saying buy crypto. You know what you need to do? It's time now to act like an adult and say, hey, guess what? Everything they're telling me is a lie. I'm going to go find out for myself. I want to do my own research. I want to sit there and I want to find it. I want to learn about this. I have to learn. You have to become intellectually, financially independent to make your own choices. Not just financially. This brings me to the question that I had to bring up.

Doing the research for yourself, you just said tax the rich, I believe. But I thought you were far right and believed in deregulation and the billionaires. At least that's what the media tells everybody, right? You've come out multiple times saying these people are getting away with not paying anything. You're getting ripped off. So-

The Wall Street Journal dumped out in the summer of 17, I wanted to raise, to President Trump, I said we should raise tax on the wealthy to 44%. And on the corporations, as they bring this cash back from overseas, right, it ought to be taxed less if it's put in capital equipment and plant, because we must rebuild the manufacturing base of this country for the American people. And if you put it in Detroit or St. Louis or Baltimore inner cities, you get a bigger tax cut. Every piece of capital in this country that goes into the manufacturing, put in the capital equipment to build fourth industrial manufacturing jobs

is going to increase the ability of the working class family. Look, here's the goal. We want the ability, and I'm not saying women have to do this, but we want the ability to get back to the 50s where one wage earner can have a family, a wife and children or a husband and children, and they don't have to work unless they want to work. We can get back to that. It's no law of – there's no second law of thermodynamics that says we have to have

this free trade that we send our factories all over the world, that we basically put all the burden on the American – the little guy, the American citizen. For all the wars, all the taxes, everything's put on his shoulders, his or her shoulders. It doesn't have to be that. You should have a special deal if you're an American citizen, right? And that deal deals with, let's have a tax policy that rewards labor and work, not just simply capital, because right now it's out of balance. Let's get back to a balance.

I'm a capitalist. I'm not some left-wing socialist, but I've got to tell you, and I say this all the time, unless we reform capitalism, this thing's going away. It's going fast. It's interesting. The money you held got higher tax rates, but the money you make has a lower tax rate until you hold it for a set amount amount of time and then it's the tax rate starts to go up the longer you hold it because you want to improve interest rates but here's the thing is that the wealthy they have this is the if you go back and look at the 24 people that are the wealthiest in the nation they don't pay the pay the tax of bloomberg and buffett is like 0.11 because they have all these tax accountants

looking for every deal in the world that the system gives them, supposedly for investment, but system gives them to avoid taxes. I will counter with this, though. Taxing them just puts the money into the government, and it's like the government is free from corruption. Well, first off, it doesn't totally put the money. First off, if we're going to have a government that provides these services and has a $1 trillion, and that's why we have a $1 trillion defense budget, because you add up all the intelligence and add in all the areas where they put it out into other departments,

it's a trillion dollars a year. If we're going to continue to spend like this, somehow it's got to be paid for. I'm all for cutting it, but still the wealthy, because of their benefits. Remember, think about it. It's like the environment back in the 60s or 70s before we had environmental laws. They had this thing called the commons, right? Because the effluent, you know, the Hudson River was filthy. The air in L.A. you couldn't see through.

Because to dump everything didn't have any charge to it. And then the people had a thing to actually start to charge for effluence. You had the Clean Air Act and all these things. And those people say, oh, the libertarians say you can't regulate. But the water got cleaner. The air got cleaner. President Trump says, I love clean water. I love clean air. Hey, it all got better. Why? Because the commons. We have the same thing here. When people say, well, Steve, we have the most robust liquid capital markets in the world in the stock market. That's all because of the little guy. It's because it's civic society upon the shoulders of the

working class and middle class in this country everything rests okay the cops the teachers the nurses the people that build the the coach little league to build the churches that civic society of america is what provides for the safety of investment that's why the whole world wants to come here and invest their dollars. It's on the shoulders. And all my point is, hey, let's still give a little something for the effort. I'm not some radical socialist, but if we don't shift a little more to the working men and women in this country,

and that's what the apes are doing. They ain't waiting for regulation. You know what they're doing? They're saying, hey, you're destroying good American companies. It's a rigged game. How about this? Buy and hold, right?

And if you're sold this stock short and it goes up tough that's tough luck we're going to crush you and they're going to crush these head funds on the way to the corruption they're going to get to the casino and they're going to tear the casino down this is uh occupy wall street 2.0 it's got a lot of people on the left younger people democratic socialists cheering for it it's got people on the right trump supporters populist right-wing individuals lots of lots of veterans a lot of people on the left, younger people, Democratic socialists cheering for it. It's got people on the right, Trump supporters, populist right-wing individuals all cheering for it. Lots of veterans. A lot of veterans.

It's amazing to hear the things you're saying about the working class, about taxing the rich, because I wonder why it is that we don't see more of the populist left agreeing, finding out where they agree and what they can target to change and changing it. I think the populist – I've always said a third of the Bernie, let's go back to the 16th. And my work on populism with Breitbart beforehand, 16 was very simple. The reason Trump won is that the American working men and women and certain middle class people rejected the managed decline of our country by an elite of both parties. It's Wall Street. It's the global corporations. It's the uniparty. And here's what the thing is.

They're comfortable with that managed decline because they're making more money on the way down than we made on the way up. Okay? So it's the managed decline of our country by the elites. And that's what kind of the Trump was the middle finger to that. And I think more populist. The one-third of the Bernie people, particularly now after two cycles, you didn't win, right?

Because the fight was not, the fight of the people was there, but the fight of the candidates itself was not there to take on the neoliberal neocons of which the Clinton apparatus was and the central apparatus of the Republican Party. But one of the problems I see now, you know, I mentioned this earlier on in the show, friends of mine from Occupy Wall Street,

now supporting the federal government, the FBI, the establishment, they've abandoned the populist left and it's just basically tribalism. If it's bad for the right, they'll cheer for it. They're not interested in improving things. I wonder if a big aspect of it is they're young and inexperienced

and their whole world is just my side is the right side and we better win by any means necessary. Or if it's just authoritarians who have manipulated people, seized power. And while there certainly were populists that occupy Wall Street, many of which I found out later switched and voted for Trump. You got Jack Murphy's book, Democrat to Deplorable. A lot of these younger people who are in their early 20s just support the establishment and will vote for whatever the establishment wants. I'm thinking about the liberal economic order. They built it after World War II to prevent World War III.

The British and the Americans were like, we're going to set up military bases all over the world. And they basically did prevent World War III. Although you could say now maybe the system is vestigial and it's ready to be changed or ripped down or maybe the whole world could create a world police or something. But people see the value of this fascistic militarism that's prevented world war three and so there is a kind of a dissonance like how do we transition away from this let me go back there for a second i actually think we had world war three and uh we won by information in economic warfare and we didn't have to go we had to go kinetic sometimes within korea or these in vietnam and other places But we won because we took down the central communist apparatus of the Soviet Union.

We defeated it. And remember, in 1989, within a few months of the Berlin Wall coming down, you had Tiananmen Square. In Tiananmen Square, we had a moment in time when the elites in the United States, having Reagan's, we win, they lose, having the collapse of the Soviet Union, we could have taken down the whole thing. The CCP would have collapsed. That's why they were in panic. And 30 days after we propped them up, General Scowcroft went over from Bush 43 or Bush 41, went over there and basically made a deal with the CCP that we're going to support you. We're going to, because they saw the ability of the Chinese model.

They always thought they could change China to Democrats, but they really bought into the economic model where China would be the central apparatus of manufacturing. Those jobs would all get shipped over, and you essentially use, they say, cheap labor, slave labor in China. Lao Bai Jing, old hundred names, would be slave labor, and that would support this international system. That's not a conspiracy.

Them's facts, okay? And this whole system is predicated upon that. We actually won World War III by information and kinetic warfare, and we gave it away. And that's why all the guys who said the end of history and all this nonsense forgot the fact that we then went to this kind of globalization, right, predicated around the slave labor of China that exported deflation and inability to raise prices, but particularly inability to raise wages because you've always got excess capacity by the state-owned industries of China. And that's why working people throughout the world have suffered. In the United States, the central economic point, we haven't had an increase. Real wages have not changed except for 19 when Trump had it since 1972 or 73.

Look around anywhere in this country. It's clearly not as good as it was back 30 and 40 years ago because you've had a huge deterioration of working class people ability to have high value added, high paying manufacturing jobs. During Trump's administration in 2019, particularly, the economy was great. Jim Cramer said the best number of numbers of our lives. There was something I found pretty hilarious. The left has advocated for a bunch of things like four day work week or, you know, less hours per day or more vacation time, paternal leave, maternal otherwise. And they want this through regulation. The government should snap their fingers right down, boom, make it happen.

Under Trump, without regulation, it started to happen. There were several stories. I think it was Potbelly Sandwiches announced a four-day work week, vacation time. We started seeing that happen in so many different companies. People were making more money. When we were buying furniture for the first studio setup for this show. I went to a furniture store and the lady told me she had never made as much money in her life as she did in 2019. This is the beginning of 2020. And I heard the same thing from the contractor who was doing work on the house to

help us build this. He's like this best year of my life last year. So all of these things came about through economic policy under Trump. But I'm'm wondering some people have argued it was trump just spending like crazy which was creating an artificial bump in the system that made everyone feel good but wasn't actually fixing things curious what your thoughts were with uh look there's there's a keynesian aspect of that you know you had you had spending and he had tax cuts at the same time so double but you also had restrictions on immigration right which is a big thing for working for working class people particularly non-skilled labor remember it's the chamber of commerce and it's the republicans want all that the democrats want the votes and the republicans want the cheap labor

okay but also at the higher end i'm a restrictionist and i also am the leader of the of one of the leaders of the freedom movement the chinese people and, and I'm the chairman of the Republican Hindu Coalition. So I love Modi. I love the nationalism in India. I've got a lot of close friends, and I cherish it, but I'm a restrictionist. And the reason is we need American citizens to get high-tech. If you turn the entire education system over to STEM in grade school, You need to be able to have African-American and Latino and Hispanic people get into the engineering schools and get jobs in Silicon Valley and get jobs in the fourth industrial revolution, manufacturing jobs.

This whole thing we're going to be a service economy is a joke. One of the biggest things coming out of here now, you see, is what's 9 million jobs, and they can't fill them from the service economy. One-third of the jobs last for the Biden thing. The disastrous job numbers were bartenders and waiters. I used to be a bartender in college, but people don't see it as a career. One of the good things you see people hesitant to come back. One of the reasons is, hey, I don't know if I just want to go back to that grind that has no future to it. Can I do something else? That hopefully is the entrepreneur spirit. People want to start businesses, but it's also we must return to become a manufacturing superpower. Anybody that

sells you, any corporation, any advertisement, any politician that sells you that we can be a service economy is lying to you, is lying to you. You're always going to work for surf-like wages, right? You're always going to work like surf-like wages until we return to a manufacturing superpower. I'm a hardcore protectionist. I'm hardcore tariffs and protectionists. And not just that, I wouldn't happy talk around these corporations about, oh, you're going to take your capital and you're going to move it overseas? No, you're not. Until we understand that manufacturing jobs are not being outsourced. That capital and investors' capital, that belongs here in the United States of America. It's protected, and the civic society has built it. We're not communists.

We're not socialists. But this ability, and this is my problem with the libertarians, they see the free flow of capital and the free flow of labor and open borders and open capital markets. I say, not so fast. We're a country with an economy. We're not an economy first. This whole thing of this Austrian school of economics and all these guys talking about, you know, it's like a lot of guys right now saying,

oh, it's just free markets that Blackstone and BlackRock are buying up all the housing stock. No, it's not. We can't have a system where you buy up all the housing stock and have the millennials just rent it back so you're paying your interest payment and you get the zero interest rate, you get the juice on the asset increase. You can't have a country like that. You're not going to have firemen.

You're not going to have police officers. You're not going to have military to protect you. You can't do this. If people don't get skin in the game, and I mean real ownership, so they can sit there and go, this is mine. I can pass it on to my kids. You're going to have a system that's going to collapse. You should have been on day one in New York at Occupy Wall Street. See, what happened was in the early few days, a lot of what you're saying was what was being said.

I met an elderly couple. They must have been in their 60s with a big old American flag talking about how we got screwed over by the elites, how the big banks were ripping us off, how we were footing the bill. And there were a lot of people there, but there was no sustained leadership. What happened was these kind of people are old. They have work to do. So they eventually go home. But the trust fund college kids with nothing but time on their hands and driven by woke ideology, they would come down and they would organize the meetings every single day. And over time, this weeded out a lot of the conversations, a lot of things that you were saying.

I feel like, and maybe it's just a wishful thinking, that if you or someone like you were there on day one, someone who was going to actually say the things you're saying and maintain that as the conversation, then the woke takeover of Occupy never would have happened. And that would have very much changed the trajectory of the past 10 years. When I was at Occupy in the first week, I met Luke Rutkowski. Do you know Luke? He's a, what are you, was it Luke an anarchist?

Yeah, technically. An anarcho-capitalist. You love him. He's a right anarchist. This is his company. We are change. Yeah, we are change. We have him on the show every so often.

He's up at Porkfest, the Free State Project in Hancher. I met him down there and he's right libertarian. And I was left libertarian, but it was very much like the elites are screwing us, the system and all that stuff. I remember I was having a conversation with some people one day and they announced they were implementing progressive stack. That meant if you want to speak at any of these meetings and you were white, you're out. You're a man, you're out. If you are LGBTQ, you'd have to announce that to the entire group and not yourself if you would like to speak if you were a man.

That shut everything down. People started leaving. People who were interested in pushing back against the corruption started crying. I knew one guy who was saying a lot of things you were saying. He left crying and never came back. Then you look at where that movement has gone since then and, you know, look, I supported Bernie Sanders in 2015 and 16. Why? What did Bernie Sanders say to Vox.com in the interview with Ezra Klein? I am not for

open borders. That is a Koch brothers proposal. They want free labor and I don't support that. What did Bernie Sanders then say when he was in the debate stage in 2019, 2020? How many of you are in favor of decriminalizing border crossings? They all raised their hand.

How many of you want free healthcare for nonsense? They all raised their hand. That's not what the left was about. Remember the battle in Seattle? 1999 was it? I don't look at it. I remember it.

I learned about it only through Occupy Wall Street. They were opposing the World Trade Organization. Something happened. WTO. Yeah, these people came in during Occupy. And because they were young, exuberant, and had nothing better to do, easily took it over.

And it's a bummer because there were a lot of people. I see a lot of people from Occupy who went to become Trump supporters, Trump voters. A lot of people sort of supported Bernie, then went to support Trump. And a lot of those people are still in the same place as not necessarily left, not really right, but just for the people, populist, support manufacturing, support the working class. And we're being torn apart by a culture war. We're being torn apart by ideology, this whole thing about critical race theory. And because of that, it's fascinating. I'll see people on the left who completely agree with everything you said about increasing taxes on the wealthy and helping the working class, but then they'll come out and defend critical

race theory, something that we, for instance, absolutely oppose. I oppose because I come from a second generation, I'm second generation mixed race in my family. And that ideology, identitarianism would rip apart, you know, the rip apart our family the way we live. So I absolutely have to oppose that. I feel like that whole battle has made it impossible for the left and right to come together, maybe on purpose. It started around Occupy Wall Street. It split everybody up. And now when you see left and right populists agreeing on core economic issues, they can't agree on these critical race theory questions.

They're not going to come together. You know what I mean? I think enough can agree on the basic economics that we can transcend this and actually can take, I think you're going to see a realignment. The key is like, look at the Rio Grande Valley. Look at these, look at, these are hard, that's the most hardscrabble part of this country is 85% Hispanic, working class Hispanic, very culturally conservative, but more importantly, they understand that open borders is crushing them.

These are people that understand I'm an American citizen. I deserve a deal that protects me. It gives me a shot at a good paying job eventually if I work hard. I mean, look at let's go to Mr. Floyd about and I say this all the time about George Floyd. And I don't want to talk about the crime that's committed against him. That's a different topic. But I say, let's look at his life. Right.

When he died, he had CCP virus. He had COVID-19. He was on fentanyl and opioids, right? And he didn't have a great job because all the manufacturing jobs shipped overseas. Think of what George Floyd's life would have been if we had had a manufacturing base. He would be a supervisor or a foreman at a factory or a junior management, he'd be closing up, opening up his summer home to go fishing up in the lake country of Minnesota with his second home up there, a little cabin he could share. If he didn't have the opioids that shipped in by the Chinese Communist Party

through the cartels in Mexico across open borders with everybody making money on the way up and the huge profits in that to poison him, to poison him him and no opportunity for a job and to stop it all off the chinese communist party virus that the elites and the scientific priesthood has basically helped fund and help do he had the ccp covid 19 virus in him he had the virus in him he had fentanyl in him he didn't have access to a great job because all the great manufacturing jobs are shipped off. Look, that's the Greek tragedy to me of George Floyd is that he was in that position that day. And by the way, let's talk about the fake 20. That's also the CCP. And we know that these foreign entities are putting out this fake money all the time with the opioids to do it. That was what the counterfeit bill was. Every aspect of his life driven by geopolitics that led to that.

I'll issue one clarification. I think lab leak theory makes the most sense. We don't have any hard confirmation, but you saw Jon Stewart's rant for the longest time, you know, all last year. It was you get banned if you brought it up. Now, all of a sudden, the mainstream media is saying it. Even Fauci himself is saying he's not convinced the virus is naturally occurring. You had the emails that came. Even Fauci himself is saying he's not convinced the virus is naturally occurring. You had the emails that came out from Fauci's own email account where you can see some scientists saying they believe it was engineered. But I'll always say. Christian Anderson at Scripps on January 31st, yeah, pretty early in the process.

Absolutely. He said, John Stewart, and this is the power of John Stewart. He said he put it, and look at Colbert's ridiculous response, a full meltdown. This shows you a hack that's a political hack now versus a master. That was Zen Master, the way he did that. With the humor, but also in his grill that, you know, how

dare you try to question this obvious. And remember, let's talk about information warfare. Don't buy the concept or the nomenclature of lab leak, because what they want you to do is think that, hey, at worst case, it leaked out of a lab. They had the bats there and the bats. This was man enhanced. This was gain of function.

They took these basic viruses and they weaponized them. They powered them up when they should not have been doing it. It should have been authorized. It should have been done. They powered them up when they should not have been doing it. It should have been authorized. It should have been done. They weren't supervised. We know that from the cables that came back from the Wuhan, from our guys in the State Department early on.

This is not a lab leak because they want you to say a lab leak because they still want you to say it just came from a bat. This was powered up. There was gain-of-function research at the Wuhan lab. Yes.

Fauci was providing funding to EcoHealth Alliance, which was used for gain-of-function. Yes. We now know that Google was involved in providing Wuhan-linked – Don't say this. You're going to get banned. This is a box suit. You're going to get banned.

Now we know Google the whole time had their hand in it. No conflict of interest. But I'll just say one thing. However we get there, we do not yet have hard confirmation that it is true that it was. Here's what we have hard confirmation of. We have hard confirmation that there is no evidence, zero evidence, that it came from a cave in the Laoishan border it traveled one if you ever been to china traveled 1 000 miles from basically southern china laoishan border to to to a wet market right and with the thousands and tens of thousands of villages through there we don't have one farmer or one animal or one sickness we have nothing until it gets to wuhan and there they said it was in a wet market but

they they they they took the wet market and got all the evidence out of there, so they won. So what we do have hard evidence is there's nothing on – there's no counter theory to this. So let me add. We have this from Nature.com, a NewsGuard certified source. As you can see here, 100 out of 100 animal sales from Wuhan met markets immediately prior to the COVID pandemic. And they note in this study no bats and no pangolins were sold. The Guardian also reported this. So I'm trying to be, no bats and no pangolins were sold. The Guardian also reported this.

So I'm trying to be very careful because I know that censorship's a real issue. That's why Jon Stewart comes out, says, now he went over the top with it. Like, he's yelling. And Colbert's response was, when do you start working for Ron Johnson? That's the best you got. That's insane.

That's the best you got. That's the best you got for me. Based on all of the evidence we have so far, this is the most likely outcome. But I don best you got. That's insane. That's the best you got. That's the best you got for me. Based on all of the evidence we have so far, this is the most likely outcome. But I want to, I don't want to say it's definitive

because it's science and YouTube will, you know. Well, let me say, there's also many intelligence services and Sherry Marks has done some great

investigative reports. There's a lot of intelligence services from throughout the world that are all on top of this. And Dr. Li Min Yang is a defector. My group, nonprofit group at the time, helped get her out.

She is. And people say, well, you know, her reports, leave the reports aside. She's a fact witness, a fact witness. She was at the oversight lab in Hong Kong as one of the senior lab scientists. Because she was in the mainland, she was ordered by the lab and she has it on WeChat to make contact with Beijing CDC on the 31st of December of 2019 about a SARS breakout in Wuhan, China. And she's got the text of what they were told her at the time. Do you remember the research paper that came out from, I think it was the South China University?

Yes. Where the author said that some of the researchers were peed on by bats or bitten by them. Now, what's funny is that story was retracted. That study was retracted. They took it down and said it's not true. And I remember I covered it early on saying, oh, this is interesting because there was a lot of questions coming out. Even the Washington Post entertained lab leak theory at the time. Then the study gets retracted.

CCP says it's not true. It was wrong. and we all roll our eyes like oh okay these guys are all in camps now what do we get from the wall street journal only recently three individuals from the wuhan institute of virology were hospitalized for some of these symptoms and they were doing research on bats we now know from nature.com from the scientific study as reported by the guardian as well that they weren't selling bats or pangolins in the wet market. So as the best as we can say. Let me say something about The Wall Street Journal. That's another cover. The Wall Street Journal and Financial Times are nothing but the tip sheets for the globalists.

That's a cover. Everybody in the intelligence community, everybody that's following this, knew about that story and knew what happened. This is no big – and they reported, and also this huge revelation. Maybe we have to reconsider the lab leak. Why is that? They're looking because they understand that all roads lead to Wuhan in a biological weapons program. Okay.

The CCP has had four opportunities to say, hey, we've signed off on the biological weapons treaty, and we're not on the biological weapons treaty, and we're not doing anything in these labs, right? Yet we know that the PLA, it runs the Wuhan lab, okay, that everything there is part of a biological weapons program. When it got out of control, or they thought it was getting out of control, the female major general that was sent down to Ube province in Wuhan to take command about the third week of January when they quarantined it was this female major general that was sent down to Ube province in Wuhan to take command about the third week of January when they quarantined it was this female major general.

Her job in the PLA, biological warfare. Right? They went down. They knew they had a problem. And talk to the guys at Fort Detrick. I mean, this is kind of an open. This is why it's such a clown show that this is an open secret among the people that have focused on this throughout the world. You can't hide it anymore.

And for liabilities and everything else, you're going to see the mainstream media and all these guys saying, even Fauci, no, I was always open-minded. Well, no, brother, you were not open-minded. I'm just wondering why it is

that all of a sudden the mainstream media is just saying, okay, lab leak. I mean, you got- Because their lawyers are telling them, hey, we got a big problem. You've been shutting down Tim Pool. You've been shutting down guys on Twitter.

You've been shutting down guys on Facebook. you're not having any conversations about either therapeutics or you're not having any conversations about what this is think about if we had had an adult conversation remember we started war room pandemic on january 23rd right how did steve because i know china i've lived there and i'm part of the this this opposition group with miles grow we're up there when getting ready for our annual broadcast that we do every year for Lunar New Year, for Chinese New Year. And, of course, the first day before that, they're going to have the big signing ceremony in the White House in the East Wing on the trade deal.

So we're sitting there. And then afterwards, it's Kyle Bass and Bill Gertz. I mean, super hardcore anti-CCP guys. We're all going to be part of this traditional three-day broadcast. And Miles Gros tells us, oh, well, we're not doing the broadcast this year. And I go, why? He says, well, they're going to shut down Wuhan and Hubei. There's a SARS breakout, and they're not going to have Chinese New Year's.

And I go, they're not going to have Chinese New Year's? What do you mean they're not going to have it? They've canceled it. I said, when's the last time they canceled it? He said, never. We've been around for 40,000 years. We've always had it. That's where I said, this is a big deal.

So when I first started hearing a lot of these stories about the censorship, you know, they were saying, don't repeat these things about lab leak. They said Trump was racist for calling it the China virus and all that stuff. And Trump even said Kung flu. My instinct and a lot of people brought up is that the establishment elites are very favorable to China. They want to protect them. Now we have this inversion where the narrative is actually, oh, the mainstream media is actually saying, yes, lab leak. And I'm wondering if the Biden administration, deep state, whatever you want to call it, do they want war with China? Why is it that last year they didn't care? Was it because they hated Trump so much they wanted him to look bad?

Is it this year they're hoping that these conversations can lead to public? We are at war with China. They're at war with us. They're an information war. They're an economic war. They've infiltrated every institution in this nation, our political class, Wall Street. They own Wall Street. They're in partnership with Wall Street, global corporations.

China, the Chinese Communist Party, not the Chinese people and not the nation of China, a transnational criminal organization that's just like the Soviets, just like the Nazis, just like the fascists. They're all criminal organizations. They're at war with the United States and they've been at war with the United States. Information war and economic war. Remember, there's three parts of it. They don't want to fight kinetic because they think the foreign devils can beat them. But guess what? They're getting to the point if they have to in the South China Sea or they have to in Taiwan, they're going to come a day that they're going to say. And that day is not too far off. We'll stand up.

Biden is doing the minimum he has to because he's getting jammed up by working class Americans. Other people are saying the Chinese communist party is the problem here and if we can't step back as adults and say this was an act of war whether they purposely released it or even if it inadvertently leaked what they did in the days and weeks to follow peter navarro walks you through it they exacerbated the problem they were having their citizens buy up ppe in various countries and ship it back to china 100 the problem is that by the way one to make it worse they're number two to have it use it're number two to have it use it strategically later on to say come with us also they were working on a vaccine Dr. Li Min Yang says in 10,000 years and the Chinese have been very advanced medically they have never

come up with a vaccine how long a sudden they pop up with a vaccine for for regardless of his efficacy and it ain't great how long were they working on this baby when all of a sudden it pops up in the spring and summer of 2020 right i want to i want to ask you uh going back to the fourth turnings we're talking about the potential conflict now we're getting into the china war stuff there's a recent report that the the pentagon has begun buying bombs for weapons for use in pacific warfare as opposed to middle eastern. We saw a report that the U.S. Air Force started spreading out its resources to various islands throughout the Pacific because they were concerned about single points of failure. And this was reported as being in

preparation for a strike from China. Then we get China sending 28 warplanes, the most they've ever done into Taiwanese defensive airspace. Then we get, as an aside, sort of the Russian war games west of Hawaii. And I'm wondering if in your face, by the way. Right, right, right. In your face. But here's what I'm thinking. The U.S. making these moves, we're watching that happen. Certainly other things have happened in this conflict that we wouldn't know about before it got to this point, right? I guess I'm wondering if these physical and overt signs

we're seeing from the Chinese strike groups in the Taiwan Strait, these warplanes, to the U.S. making these moves are signs that it's become so obvious war is coming, they're making moves in our face. So I said back on Breitbart Radio in 15 when they had the problem with Japan, and remember they cut the rare earths off? No. Yeah, yeah. So Japan, they had a problem in the East China Sea

with fishing trawlers and fishing, I think it was. And the Chinese cut Japan off of rare earths, which means no semiconductor business, no electronics business. And I said at the time, the Japanese worked it out, okay? Kind of kowtowed,

and they worked it out. And I said about these islands that are coming up, these artificial islands, that within five to eight years, if we don't stop these guys now with information economic warfare, we're going to be in a shooting war in the South China Sea. I patrolled the South China Sea as a young naval officer. The South China Sea is the most important body of water in the world.

It connects the Persian Gulf, Straits of Malacca, with all the markets throughout Asia. It's central to the American economy. And quite frankly, Silicon Valley West, whether you have a – you think you have a moral obligation to defend the free Chinese in Taiwan? Even if you don't think you have a moral obligation to defend the Judeo-Christian West, you have a hard economic interest. That's Silicon Valley West. All of our advanced chip design is right there. We have to defend Taiwan. And our back's being put up by the feckless nature of

our elites. Let me just tell you this whole concept of the Thucydides trap. This is a concept that the elites believe. Henry Kissinger, who's Wang Shishan's best friend, the real hatchet man in China, that throughout history, like Sparta and Athens, you've had 15 times you've had a declining power and a rising power.

And 12 of the 15 times has been a global conflict. But if the elites of the declining power are smart, you can kind of nudge the rising power in there and you can get them to live. I heard that it was Jake Sullivan said after we won in 16, one of the things he was telling people, I think Fareed Zakhar told me this, that he had said, hey, the one thing that Bannon got right in this thing is that we're not the declining power. We're in decline by our managed lease, but we have all the cards right now. We have the capital markets. We have access to the dollar.

We have access to our technology. You know, Xi, when Trump negotiated the big deal, the Lighthizer deal in 19, the spring of 19, that huge deal with the seven verticals that Navarre talked about, and Xi stop their state-owned industries and really destroy the slave labor and make the whole – this deal was the best deal we would ever get with the Chinese to integrate them into the world economy. Lighthizer and Navarre negotiated it. The Chinese reviewed it. Lee Ho was the guy. They went back and they looked at it and they said, you know, upon further review, this is a poor treaty.

If we do this, we will always be subservient to the West and we're not going to do it. He told people internally, we are 20 years still behind behind the west we have to steal most of the stuff so we have to expedite this we have to get on a five-year program because we're at war with these guys and we're either going to kowtow to them or we're going to be able to stand up and we're going to be able to dictate the terms and that's in the spring of 19 is when this is, remember, so many smart people have said this, is that geopolitically the most important thing, they actually talked about technologically decoupling from America. That they would have their own Amazons and their own Googles. They would not be for our chip design and all the advanced engineering that we do that they still need.

They said, we're going to get all off of this because we still kowtow to the West. So that spring of 19 is one of the biggest inflection points in this conflict, right? And everything Biden's doing today is all just this, just all happy talk. You saw the meeting with Blinken where China said you're not in a position of strength. You know, you are not coming to us from a position of strength. So I guess just to reiterate, you mentioned we may come to the point where there's kinetic war let's talk about the blinking meeting because they're all about face and formality we tony blinken had you know by the way he's totally compromised he was part of the university of pennsylvania and harvard and

these things jake sullivan taking money left and right from the chinese communist party to fund these ivy league universities it's a disgrace and i say that somebody's a harvard graduate it's a disgrace you're taking blood money from lao bai jing from the money doesn Party to fund these Ivy League universities, it's a disgrace. And I say this as somebody who's a Harvard graduate, it's a disgrace you're taking blood money from Lao Bai Jing. The money doesn't come for free. It comes off the sweat of some of the most decent people on this earth. That's where the money comes from, the criminal class on Wall Street that's in business with them and the universities to take that money.

Blinken reads his little two-minute formal thing. Tiger Yang sits there for 20 minutes and lectures him. You're not telling us what to do. You have no moral authority what to do. And the reason they're able to lecture is they don't fear our elites. They don't fear our elites. And that, I'm telling you, symbolically throughout the world, everybody took notice of that.

Because the Biden administration, what he should have done is said, hey, thank you very much. You should have called by and by and said, get the plane on and come home. No more meeting. No more talk. This is the humiliation of the West. They know our elites are feckless. They know they're weak.

And more importantly, they know that they're bought in. We're a tributary state right now. We ship the trade deficit. This year is going to be a trillion dollars. We're financing their military. We're financing their attack on us. Well, here's what happens. We ship over raw materials and beef and soybeans and timber and coal and oil and all that. And they ship back advanced manufacturing products that should be here in the United States of America. And guess what? They may cost a little bit. Is that the end of the world? Is the end of the world that this thing's

going to cost a little bit more? Is the end of the world of the product? If you've got good paying jobs and families with good paying jobs, right? And the wife, if she doesn't want to, doesn't have to work, but can sit home and raise three, four or five kids. Okay. Is that, is there some law of physics that says that it's terrible to have to pay more for products? No, it is not if wages rise. This is the central dilemma. Our elites are compromised. They're weak.

And our enemy, the biggest existential threat we've ever had in the nation's history, understands that they're weak and feckless and understands they've been bought and compromised you so you've mentioned their compromise is it possible then that they're just fumbling on purpose so that we avoid the city's trap and china just kind of wedges their way in and we falter i think it's i think it's not fumbling on purpose i think it's part of they don't want to confront anybody look at kenry henry christian now warning us about a cold war we're not in a cold war war is three parts as they tell us in unrestricted warfare you have an information part slash cyber and an economic part in kinetic they're at hot war with us on information warfare and cyber they're at a hot war with us on economics okay that is a hot not a cold war that's a hot war thank god we haven't slipped to the inexorably slipped to the kinetic war you know why here's

who's going to pay for it the kids are in my destroyer were all working class people. That's who's going to pay for it. The same people that are buried in every patriot grave in every battlefield throughout the world, okay, in World War I and World War II in Vietnam and Korea, the same working class people who thanklessly, and it was thankless, okay, had to go over there and take care of all these messes Europe got in,

all these messes that communism drove, right? Think of the quality of individual that served and dedicated and went and fought for this country with no thanks. And don't tell me, oh, the veterans thank you for your service. They're gone. Their futures are gone. Their children are gone. They were destroyed crushed right that's

the kinetic war with ship and every veteran knows that they understand what's those bombers coming over then when russia sends a fleet off of off of the west coast off of pearl harbor is doing exercises and what called the hawaiian op area and that's where the u.s navy transitions the third fleet goes to the seventh fleet you work up that russians are right there because they're in your face you know why they understand our elites are weak and they will not push back you want to you want to know something interesting i heard and uh maybe it's not true but i think it's true that exemplifies what you're saying about the working class being the ones who go off and die you know why smith is the most common last name? Or at least in the West.

So Smith, Schmidt, et cetera. When wars broke out, the Smiths wouldn't go to war. They would stay and make weapons. And when a country was captured, the Smiths wouldn't be executed. They would use their knowledge of making weapons to empower their conquerors. So naturally, those last names Smith were more likely to survive. The people who don't go to war, surprisingly, the ones who make the weapons are the ones who continue to live on and expand. And I mean, no disrespect to anybody named Smith. I'm just pointing out that a lot of people are used for cannon fodder by the wealthy

elites and the military industrial complex who are the modern blacksmiths. If you want to see anything more of this, look at the disaster in the 20s. We're supposed to be a great power. Here's what a great power we are. Our elites sent us to these Middle Eastern wars that were wars of choice. You could have cut, as Trump showed with ISIS, you go in there, that state that had come up between Syria and Iraq was more vibrant, more robust. He sent, you know, with Mattis, and we got the local guys also to do the fighting, the militias. But we destroyed ISIS, the physical caliphate, in what, a year, year and a half? These wars of choice have cost us, according to Brown University, what, nine, the net present

value is $9 trillion. Now, please, imagine what this nation would be like if you had taken that $9 trillion and you put it into St. Louis, you put it into Detroit, you put it with advanced manufacturing jobs. This would be paradise on earth. Yet we have 10,000 dead, all almost to a person, working class and middle class people. We have another, what, 30,000 or 40,000 horrible injuries. And how many PTSDs? There's 40 veterans a day killing themselves killing themselves these casualties of war is because a neocon neoliberal elite whose children

do not fight these wars send everybody else out to fight them how many years did we hear about the pipes in flint that didn't get fixed my understanding is at the end of last year they actually repaired them things are better and i i just said this i was like hey here's a compromise. We end the war, stop spending money over there, and just fix the pipes in Flint. Everyone's happy, right? Why can't that stuff get done? Because they want to be a global cop everywhere. President Trump, one of the things before I left the White House, was fighting over Afghanistan. And look, I'm a proud veteran. I'm a patriot. I love the military. But I don't love the military to be used to destroy it. And you're in Afghanistan now for 20 years.

You've added up the combat history of the revolution, the Civil War, World War I, World War II. We're there in one place longer than the combat history of everything. It's a forever war. And I saw the way it worked. They lied to President Trump. I sat there, show us the number. Oh, it's going to be $10 billion. No, it's $42 or $52 billion.

I didn't go show us the number. Oh, it's going to be $10 billion. No, it's $42 or $52 billion. I go around and give speeches. If you're in St. Louis, would you rather have, give them $10 billion, do whatever they want, and let them steal it all? But take the other $32 billion, and let's put it back in St. Louis for a year. Everybody vote for that? Unanimous. But first off, of the $9 trillion, let's go to Afghanistan. I want to see the roads. I want to see the schools for little girls. I want to see the hospitals because it must be nirvana. Everybody should want to move to Afghanistan. We asked them, show me the use of – I got the taxpayer paid the $9 trillion, right? And part of it is net preservation, but the cash money, $3, $4, $5 trillion.

Trillion. Just show me the photographs. Where are they? Oh, you can't do it. They can't do it. The place is still, as President Trump would say, a shithole. Right? Yeah.

Yes. Sorry about that for your thing. But no. And hey, because they've stolen it and they're growing, the poppies are bigger than ever. This is what is not a great power runs itself. And yet, what are they doing? You've got to stay in there. Lindsey Graham, you've got to stay in there.

You've got to do this. You've got to do that. No, you don't. You've got to stay in there. You've got to do this. You've got to do that. No, you don't. You've got to come home, and then you've got to tell them. If any type of terrorism or terrorism networks were going to come in and destroy it, no questions asked. Okay, we're going to start acting like adults and stop acting like children. And that's what these neoliberal neocons draft off of. I heard that one of the first things Donald Trump did when he got in was he said,

I want Afghanistan over within the first few months. Is that true? First two days. First two days. I want to plan to get out of Afghanistan and I'm going to get Afghanistan. And by the way, why didn't it happen? The poppies, the heroin, the opiates. You're there.

Why didn't the day I left the day they had the last meeting? Because they sat there with President Trump said, no, the Taliban, they're going to do this. They're going to do that. They're going to come back. You just look at everything. And also you go back and say, hey, let me see the presentations that were made to the commander in chiefs because we've been here through all of Bush and Obama. Right.

I want to see the presentations that were made at the critical inflection points. It's always the same presentation. In 18 months, it's better. Right. It's always an 18 month. You know, it's the projections. They're going up like every 18 months we're out. It's all. First off, it's always an 18 month you know it's the projections they're going up like every 18 months we're out it's all a lot first off it's gross incompetence number two it's also corruption and number three it's also the mindset of the elites there's no will to win because they want

to be there they want to be in 140 countries they want to be everywhere power corrupts an absolute power it corrupts us we were never set up to be an empire. The great thing of our revolutionary generation, and that's what I love about the millennials, on the left and the right, the populists on the left and the right, they have a revolutionary spirit that things have to change. That's what drove the revolutionary generation

to go against the aristocracies of the world and the divine right of kings, that people can actually govern themselves. The consent of the governs everything, and this is that people can actually govern themselves the consent of the governs everything and this is what afghanistan showed no the elites want us to be there and we're going to be there was trump able to stamp the paper and say we're done we're out what was it at the end was it ultimately not not in that 17 they they misrepresented and lied to him and said we got to be in but that is compromised this is what i'm asking did trump

say oh okay i guess we have to stay i wasn't there for the final meeting but the meetings leading up to that when they kind of put me back on the national security council and say let's come up with three alternatives the alternatives is that withdraw immediately add troops which the staying was actually adding people okay in the middle was let's get a paramilitary cia bad hombres special forces that stay in for some reduced, get big army out of there, some reduced thing to kill bad guys and to make sure they can't do terrorist things. And that middle ground was not selected. It was selected to be that with a plan to come back and withdraw. President Trump, at the end of it, in a couple of years, finally said, I've had enough of this.

We're coming home. I think it's the reason. They lied to him and they blocked him. Listen, the apparatus, and this is why, and look, I'm a huge believer in the military. There's something seriously wrong with the national security state. There's something wrong with the FBI. There's something wrong with the CIA. The national security apparatus is all powerful.

We need a church commission. We need to immediately have people in Congress with others sit there and review the FBI, the CIA, and DOD. We've got to get to the bottom of what our purpose is, what we're trying to do, what's acceptable to do against American citizens in the United States, right, what it's acceptable to do overseas, and what our whole purpose is right now, particularly when we have an existential threat in the Chinese Communist Party. It's not like, hey, we get a free pass and we can kind of rethink this. Remember, if you think about it for a second, just look at the world geopolitically.

Western Europe, just go around the world island, Western Europe, the Persian Gulf, the South China Sea, and then up to, if you think about a map, up to Northwest around Japan and Korea. Okay, there's four hotspots around the world island, which traditionally in the post-World War II world is where we kind of structure this. If you look at those sections, it's a combination in every area of capital markets, commercial relationships, trade deals, right, and an American security guarantee.

NATO does it. Come on. NATO does everything. Israel. It's built as a security for the suez canal basically the state of israel is our partner but that whole area and try to get uae and and and saudi arabia against obviously iran which is partners with china but my point is it's capital markets trade deals commercial relationships and an american security guarantee in all four of them trump's

thing was hey it's time for locally you you've got to step up to the plate. The U.S. taxpayer, and particularly the deplorable, remember, it's their kids down on the border in Ukraine. It's their kids in the Hindu Kush on patrol. It's their kids on patrol in the South China Sea. And it's their kids up on the 28th or 38th parallel in Korea. It's the working class people in this country's taxes, and it's their children that are doing this

and that's why i think people said hey we've got to do a big rethink here why is nato getting a free pass i'm a big believer in nato but you've got to pull your weight why the germans pay under one percent of of they pay our supplemental bill that trump put forward in 17 we first got there to take care of maintenance was bigger bigger than the entire German defense budget. Germany's economy is, what, $4 or $5 trillion? It was one-third of what ours was. And our thing was $780 billion to $1 trillion. Theirs is $35 or $40 billion.

The global banks, Bank of International Settlements, have basically co-opted the United States government. It's like a parasite causing us to print with this fiat, unlimited money to fund an unlimited war. They're using this American system. I wouldn't say it's the BIS. I think it's the capital markets. I think it's Wall Street, the city of London. And you're absolutely correct.

Their objectives now is, and that's why it's doing, it's just to continue to print money. Continue to print money. That's what leads to the destruction of the U.S. dollar. That's why people got to start looking at alternative investments. You got to. And I'm not a prepper, but you would be a fool. You would let yourself down. You would not do the fiduciary responsibility to yourself or your family.

If you don't start looking at alternatives that could happen. Right. You saw this with the collapse of the energy situation in Texas. The fuel situation. You have to right now to protect yourself and your family, you have to say, hey, I'm not a prepper because the preppers get a little scary for me, right? But I got, as a logical person, I got to think about food. I got to think about energy.

I got to think about gold. I got to think about crypto. I got to think about every other possibility, including what I normally do in my normal life. I'll tell you something. We have a sponsor. We do the MyPatriotSupply, safeandreadymeals.com. We promo them every so often.

And these are these food bins. They last for 25 years. You crack them open. And this is not a promo. I'm just explaining what it is because this is relevant. We had a storm come through here a couple weeks ago. All the power was out for, I think, like eight hours. We did the show.

Why? I have backup batteries. We have small portable backup batteries that we immediately brought upstairs. We had like, I think we have like eight of them or more. And we plugged them all in and everything ran just fine. It was really hot because you can't really do air conditioning with it. But we managed to do the show. And like, we had some light, but we made it work.

Why? Sometimes it rains. And when it happens, sometimes the power line goes down. So having backup batteries is not prepping necessarily. I guess you are prepping. But when I promo these food bins periodically, maybe like once a month or a couple times every other month, the leftists, many of these like left establishment pro, like I shouldn't say leftists.

I always try to differentiate between economic leftists and like establishment individuals they just make a game of haha tim so dumb he's selling these bins and i'm like let me let me ask you something it's like you have a first aid kit in your house do you know where it is a lot of people will say i do have it i don't know where it is why because you never really use it but you have it you eat food every day this is what's crazy to me that we're in this period where you have people shaming others for preparing for what could be a major crisis, especially when we're talking about the fourth turning or Thucydides trap. I'm like, am I going to fill up an underground bunker with like,

you know, a hundred years worth of food? No, but I'll get a bunch of, you know, 30 year food bins. We got a lot of employees here and then we'll have food. Why? Your worst case scenario is you eat it. It lasts forever, so you have food. But there are people who genuinely shame others for the idea that something bad might happen like, I don't know, a tornado. Tornado just hit Chicago. You see that? I had people hit me up. No joke.

A tornado actually landed in Chicago suburbs. All my life, it's always been warnings. Never actually hit. I saw a photo of it. I was surprised. And people are trapped in their homes and they have no food.

These things happen. But there are people that are indoctrinated by the media, by this narrative that preppers are all insane, so you should not be prepared for a disaster.

That's what I was saying. The financial literacy, we just picked up my Patriot supply about a month ago. We do it once a week or something. But the reason

that attracted it to me, if you just look at the logic, why would you not have a 30-day fruit supply? Given things that happened in Texas, given things that happened on the East Coast with the gasoline, today, that's what I'm saying. Just step back for a second

because they do make the preppers out to be crazy. But just step back and just look at the facts. Why would you not have a backup generator? Why would you not have a 30-day food supply? Why would you not do the logical things that would put you in a position that you wouldn't have to sit there and wait for government to come and help you? God bless the guys at FEMA. They do a – men and women at FEMA do a fantastic job. But you can't sit there and go, I'm waiting on FEMA.

You've got to be in this day and age at least to have some modicum of support. You know what I find fascinating? We mentioned this the other day in the bonus segment at tbs.com. The people in the cities tend to be more liberal. They tend to be the ones very, very concerned about climate change. They also tend to be the ones

that are the least self-sufficient and self-sustaining and the least likely to actually recycle and compost. And you look at conservatives, more likely to live in rural areas, much less likely to be concerned about climate change, much more likely to have their own farms,

their own gardens, their own goats, their own chickens, to compost and consume less and have their own backup generators and produce wind or solar. It's fascinating, isn't it? It is. That's what I think the real thing of being a conservative is, is to conserve, right? To know how to live what I think the real thing of being a conservative is, is to conserve,

right? To know how to live, to know how to live. I think the media is the problem. The media whips everybody into a frenzy. Everybody fights. I think we're guilty of it to a certain degree. And it's not the media.

No, the media is, it's different though. And I think Marshall McLuhan, Marshall McLuhan said, this is what I keep saying. Trump is the first McLuhan as president. Maybe Obama is that what McLuhan said back in the 50s, right?

It was at Washington University in St. Louis. He was a theoretician. He said, hey, this was just with radio and movies and TV was just starting. He said, this thing of mass communications is so powerful, it's going to overtake evolutionary biology. It's going to start to be the thing that drives the evolution of man, that is going to incorporate so much, right? And that's what you have today. You live in a world of not just media,

it permeates everything. That's what I said at the time. The opposition party is not the Democrats, the opposition party is the media. They're more powerful. They're more in every aspect of it. And just look what's happened over the last couple of years, particularly with things like the CCP virus, the virus from Wuhan, things like other aspects. I think, and I'm a big elections guy, but things happen there, that you have these narratives and you can't go across. Miles Gross told me a couple of years ago, he says,

nuclear weapons are not the most powerful weapons in the world. And I go, what do you mean? He says, it's social media. I media i go miles what are you talking about he said if if dc was hit with a nuclear weapon trump or whoever was president go in the bunker hit back with other nuclear weapons they can disappear you they can disappear you by shutting you off all search this was years before trump was but i said you're crazy goes, it's more powerful because media permeates everything. Nuclear weapons is just a weapon. This is fascinating.

When we had Ben Stewart on the show talking about the fourth turning, he mentioned that the theory suggests the most powerful weapons of the time will be used in the great, in the crisis. And the concern was nuclear weapons. And my immediate thought was it's social media. Social media. Have you ever played the game Civilization? Sid Meier's Civilization? No. Ian, I know you.

I love it. Yeah, great game. Amazing game. You basically start from nomadic little tribesmen, settlers, and you build civilization. You develop technology. And then the game comes to an end when you have massive countries. Borders are pressing upon borders. It's a brilliant game.

I think kids should have to play it in school because it teaches you a lot. But one of the most interesting things is how you can win a cultural victory. There's several ways to win. You can take everybody over with force. You can colonize other planets. Or there's a cultural victory where your influence spreads so far and wide, people just start joining your country. In the game, you can actually take over cities and their borders by producing so much culture that the people now feel more represented by you and your way of life than their own country. Imagine what happens when the NBA and Blizzard, these video games, are all now defending the CCP, mocking Hong Kong,

not letting you buy free Hong Kong gear. That's what we're experiencing. For those that understand video games, China is going for the cultural victory here and it's working out fairly well for them for the time being 100 not even a question that's what we've got this is why this fight is right now and it's a fight that's information which is part of the cultural right and economic and it's a hot war it's a hot war not not a cold war i'll before we go to superchats i'll say one more thing if that's hot war then we're in a hot civil war trump supporters being banned and purged some of the highest profile supporters of of the of Before we go into the superchats, I'll say one more thing. If that's hot war, then we're in a hot civil war. Trump supporters being banned and purged, some of the highest profile supporters of the man, have been completely removed.

Working class individuals who say learn to code to mock the idea they should give up their jobs and go work in a different industry are all purged. That is the information warfare. The things we can't say on this show will get banned. But, hey, I can do a debate with Jack Dorsey and Vijay Agade on the Joe Rogan podcast where I can show them an example of Antifa advocating for extreme violence and they won't remove it. But a Trump supporter can make a joke and they're gone. So that is information warfare. But that's economic. They've started banning conservatives. There's bank accounts.

Oh, yeah. Deep platforming, deep financinginancing all of that cutting off credit cards physical violence and people killed so it may be the cusp of kinetic warfare i hope it doesn't proceed further here's the thing is that we can color inside the lines and win this there's a realignment and i think we're going to be able to prove at the end of the day that this vote count on november 3rd and to me that's one of the only things that matter all this other nonsense about you know more voting laws and all this different stuff is a misdirection play in a way for the Republicans and the RNC to raise money.

You've got to get to the bottom. Just like in Wuhan lab, you've got to get to the bottom of November 3rd, and you've got to get there with facts, facts, hard facts, evidence and facts. And I think you're going to see what I say. There's already been a realignment. I'm not going to say the magic word because I don't know. We'll save that for after the show. No, but my point is that there's been a realignment in this country.

Look at the Rio Grande Valley. I think it's Henry Gonzalez, the smart old Democrat in South Texas. He's sitting there going, waving the flag, saying, guys, if you don't get down here with real policies, the Republicans are going to start sweeping Hispanic, Southern Texas, South Texas. That's going to happen. You're seeing a realignment. What is it, 14% or 15%?

I forget the number of African-American males voted for Trump. You're seeing a realignment. It's before you. And don't buy all the stuff you see on MSNBC and all that. There's a realignment of working class people and middle class people to their economic interest, their economic interest, right? Their economic interest to say, hey, look, I like these policies. I don't like the globalists.

I don't like the open borders. Bernie's right. It is a Koch brothers program with these open borders, right? Although Bernie for political expediency, right? Expediency said the opposite. It's one of the reasons he's not president of the United States when he very much could have been president in either 16 or in 20. So I think there's been a realignment. It's going to be even bigger.

And I'm telling you, this coalition of working class and middle class people based around populism and economic nationalism is going to govern this country for 100 years. And we're going to have the fight. It's not between each other. The fight is between a corrupt and distant elite, woke globalist elite and the working class

and middle class people in the sky. You can't go at China and defeat them like that. It's like two rocket ships, each traveling. And our goal is, which can be the better rocket ship? You don't want to ram into them and destroy. You want to get there faster, better. We need a new industry. You guys talk about industry a few times on this. And have you heard of graphene okay graphene is the 21st century steel yes if the

united states retrofits their economy to build graph yes fast quick cheap sell it across the world yes i think what we can do let me know what you think about this set up a 15-year plan where we build like a university where we taxpayer funded to go learn how to make graphene after 15 years we make it a utility. And all the graphene that's produced there is then free for the citizens to utilize. So like the roads, lower the taxes on the roads. You put it in car bodies. The cars are cheaper now.

Actually, this is fascinating. So carbonizing batteries with graphene so you can charge faster? But let's take what the CCP did. They announced 10 years ago called Made in China 2025, right? And they were going to dominate 10 industries, right? And the industries they said, advanced chip design, artificial intelligence, robotics, biotech. Now, they just go down and say, and by the way, all of those combined lead to the fourth industrial revolution. And they made a national commitment to do it. We can do that.

People say, yes, we can make a national commitment to have national champions and dominate those industries and have our allies. We haven't had the political will because Wall Street and the global corporations own our political class, okay, our political class, and our political class, they'd rather have China have it because then they got all the slave labor of the poor

chinese to support that okay and this is the problem those things and graphene all that would be part of it right we should be the leaders in all that we're the leaders in r&d and applied research but we let it be made everywhere else and the great thing of walsh says oh if you do the r&d and you do all that you're going, well, you create the value to a very small band of folks, not to the great bulk of society. We have to return all that. We have to take their made in China 2025, say, hey, how about this? Made in America 2025. And bring those back.

The oligarchs, they run the copper industry, basically. They don't want to lose the monopoly on the wire industry. The wires, copper wires is like a huge, and the coal and oil, they don't want to lose the monopoly on the wire industry. The wires, copper wires is like a huge and the coal and oil. They don't want to lose it to graphene. So it's a it should be mainstream media. This is the thing. This is pure carbon. I mean, this this is it in hydrogen.

I mean, also the hydrogen. I agree with you, by the way. I agree with you that. But to me, that's got to be a driving force. You've got to you've got to get people aware of that. You've got to start pushing it. You've got to start talking about it every day. I mean, you're clearly very, very enthusiastic about it.

That enthusiasm has got to get out there and get into the capital markets. Right now, it's looked at, let's do the advanced R&D, and we'll let China go make it, right? And we'll let China have that high value-added jobs, not pay any of the Chinese for it. We're still going to use them as slave labor, and that's the way we keep wages down throughout the world. And that's not a conspiracy. Dems just happens to be the way the system works. Let's jump over to the Super Chats

to see what the audience and the questions from many of these individuals here. And then as for the more spicier conversations, go to TimCast.com, become a member, because after we wrap up here,

about a half an hour or so, we're going to carry on the conversation, which should be published around 11 p.m., and then we're going to ask a bunch of the questions that YouTube would ban us for, because that's the way the information warfare works. So you can check it out at Timcast.com. Smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show, and let's read. All right, let's see. All right, what do we got? Brian Fontenot says,

you don't read Seeking Alpha for the articles, you'll read it for the comments. Long AMD. All right. Dr. Rollergator says, if I were a chief strategist and I spent two months in the NSC, I would look up all sorts of intelligence

that might be useful for parallel construction when I leave the White House. But maybe that's just me. How about you? Parallel construction? Yeah, I'm not familiar. Like building things there? So you know about all the aliens, I guess,

but you just can't tell us? I think the question about the aliens is why is this information coming out right now? Yes, thank you. We're going to have one of the... Look, this is a very serious topic. This is a very serious topic. We're going to have one of the congressmen, the Republican congressman, on the show for a whole hour on Thursday because I want to go through this.

This is a very serious topic. But I think that, hey, we've got a dumpster fire right now in the country. Why is the timing particularly since I don't think that much has been added in knowledge since I was there in 17. Right. I'm interested to see that. But the question is, why now? It's a race. But I know.

Like I said, this is a serious topic and people have to address it as a serious topic. One of the things. Let me just step back for a second. Besides UFOs. Let's go back to that Chinese, Made in China 2025. The bigger threat and the real reason I'm a populist, I said this at a speech years ago and a couple of years ago in Italy.

The convergence of these technologies, the convergence of advanced chip design, artificial intelligence or artificial general intelligence, robotics or regenerative robotics, and basically biotechnology or gene splicing. The convergence of those technologies is going to lead to what's called the singularity. And then that's going to lead to what is transhumanism. It's going to be post-homo sapien.

Now, that fact is going to happen in the lived experience of people listening and watching the show today. Okay? It won't be me, but it will be others. That is going to be the central inflection point in mankind. Right? That we know is coming because we can see where these things are. And that is completely unregulated, totally not talked about. Your tax dials are paying for a lot of the stuff in DARPA of this research that's going on.

And nobody, the elites in the world, do not want this discussed whatsoever. It's one of the reasons in this new theology of scientism, they do not want the barbarians getting to the temple that is the Wuhan laboratory. They don't want any of the barbarians to ever question what the high priests say about the temple that are these research labs. And to me, this is one of the new, and it's going to come, it's going to be forced by a populist movement in this country this summer when the mothers of America, many of whom hate the name Donald Trump, many of whom voted against Donald Trump, many of whom are progressives, and they and their husbands got vaccinated when they get back to school in mid-August. And according to Fauci, to get to herd immunity, we have to vaccinate the school

children, okay, not just the adolescents, but the kids from babies to 10 or 11. When those vaccines are going to be put forward, and people know if your kids aren't vaccinated, they're going to be put over here in this corner. This is going to be a firestorm. And that ties back to this whole system of the scientific kind of priest cast that kind of does this without anybody questioning it. And I got to tell you, this situation of transhumanism, if we allow as people of the world, and particularly people of the United States, to allow what's happening there, the same way globalization just kind of came about, and all of a sudden it was a thing after 30 or 40 years of

being told, da-da-da-da-da-da, and all of a sudden you had this system that was in place and now you've got to go out and strike against it to dismantle it because it's destroying working class people. If the same thing happens with the conversion of these technologies and we're just asleep, trust me,

because right now you can see with artificial intelligence, the jobs and the jobs that get crushed are working class jobs. All right, let's see. King Tesseract says,

Tim, you just don't get it. Quote, don't subsidize those that hate you. That's the point of neoliberalism. The entire economy gives the left free power. When the Dems embraced Alinskyism,

society itself was poisoned forever. Smart. I'm not familiar with alinskyism what is that solinsky rules for radicals radicals brilliant but you got to read it brilliant it's it's it's brilliant that in the little little red book shows you how the the frankfurt school the cultural marxist is going to take over solinsky's a hammer we hammer. We need Saul Alinsky on the right. Yeah, I mean. That's Tim Pool. Is it? I don't know, but I want you to be. You're a tough hombre.

By the way, Stacey Abrams, and hey, I admire him. I want a Stacey Abrams on the right. I want people that are fighters and she will not back down. The problem we have on the right is too many of these feckless, pencil-necked politicians will not stand up and fight. They don't want to be called racist. They don't want to be,

they want to be in the club. They want to go to the country club. They want to go in the nice restaurants. Hey, in this day and age, you can't do that. You've got to be able to fight. They care more about what the New York Times thinks of them than their own constituents. Amen. I saw that on Twitter, but we got to try and read it. Yeah, let's go. Let's rock and roll. Bobby Bob says, what do you think the reaction to a Trump 2024 win will be?

It'll be tough, but what about a... I can't say that. We'll have to wait until... Was there a loss in 2020? No. Trump's... First off, we're going to take the midterms in 2022. We won 62 seats in 2010 with the Tea Party revolt. This is the Tea Party to the 10th power. We're going to take the midterms in 2022. We won 62 seats in 2010 with the Tea Party revolt.

This is the Tea Party to the 10th power. We're going to win 40 to 50 seats in 2022. And Trump is going to have a sweeping victory in 2024. And the left is just going to have to deal with it. Is it going to be Trump-DeSantis? I have no earthy idea. But it'll be Trump. I have no earthy idea. But it'll be Trump. I have no earthy idea who the VP will be.

I think it'll be Trump. I'm kind of feeling DeSantis. He's got a lot of... You know Dave Smith, Libertarian Party? Yeah, sure. What do you think about Dave? I'm not a Libertarian. I'm not a Libertarian.

I just want to bring everybody together. I'm an anti-Libertarian. Can we actually... Because Libertarians are coaxed Libertarians. They believe in open borders, and they believe in free flow of capital but you don't believe in either big l libertarian like the libertarian party i mean the concept of the libertarian you tell me what else it is besides on the political spectrum libertarian meaning less like there's authoritarianism and libertarianism libertarianism focus on the individual and freedom things like that whereas authoritarianism is the

hierarchies control the system etc etc okay i. Okay, I like that part of the little l, but the problem is it gets translated into open borders and free flow of capital. I'm not free of the one. There is an interesting debate between libertarians, like big L libertarian, as to whether they're open borders or closed borders. There are a lot of libertarians that say borders are imaginary lines. You're crazy. But there are a lot of libertarians that say how can you even maintain your freedoms without defending where your freedoms are i gotta meet those libertarians are they okay well then those are good guys this is one of the problems with the libertarian party is that you have a guy get up on stage take his pants off because he thinks libertarian means he

can do whatever he wants libertine right right right right i was studying the spanish american war 1898 the spanish empire basically controlled cub, and the Americans decided to liberate Cuba. And they're like, we're not going to take Cuba. We're just going to liberate it. So they did. And then a dictator took over. So, like, is there a point where liberating a country and just letting it go is detrimental? Like, you're saying government oversight is important.

You want big L libertarians to laissez-faire. You know, corporations will take over. But at some point, do you use the militant arm of force to keep people free? I hate imperialism. But letting that country go independent and Castro seizes command is like, I hate that too. So is this the ever balance? Yeah, I don't know if you want to address that.

It has to be a balance. I mean, to me, you've got to, I don't know going in and liberating people. People have to want to liberate themselves. One of the things we've seen in Afghanistan, they don't really want democracy as we define it. You've had these globalists in there for 20 years, always want to do the elections. It's not working right. We're trying to force on them our system. People have to want to want that, right? And have to fight for it. Everybody's got to fight eventually for their freedom, right? I think. And if we're there to assist in certain situations, then we're there to assist. But I think we've got to be very – remember, the founders said don't go throughout the world looking for dragons to slay. There's enough dragons here. Here's a tough question.

In the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln did a lot of questionably authoritarian things, right? Suspension of Habeas. He was a warlord. Right. Not questionable. He was a warlord. Sure, sure, sure. Suspension of Habeas Corpus.

That's what it took to destroy. Look, Sherman told him, you're going to have to burn the South to the ground. And he did. To win. He tried it. No, they tried it first to do the army, you know, to beat an army and stuff like that. And eventually he understood. Sherman, who they thought was crazy at the beginning, was right. You're going to have to defeat the plantationist aristocracy in the south, giving the fighting spirit of the south.

And they had their dander up. You're going to have to go in and burn the south to the ground. Columbia, South Carolina. Charleston, South Carolina. Richmond, Virginia. Atlanta, Georgia. Right? The march to the sea. We talked about it recently. In 18. Look. the ground columbia south carolina charleston south carolina richmond virginia atlanta georgia right the march to the sea the march we talked about it recently in 18 look remember people forget this lincoln did not run as a republican in 1864 he ran as on the national union party

he had to reach out to a democrat which was andrew johnson who was at east tennessee remember east tennessee the scottish highlanders up there did not truck with the plantation aristocracy. They wanted to break off. So he ran as a joint thing up until the fall of Atlanta on September 1st, 1864. Lincoln was losing to McClellan, who had been his, you know, and he thought this thing was over, actually signed a thing to his cabinet, says, when I'm defeated, I don't know if I'm turning power over in March because I'm going to finish. We're going to finish this rebellion on my watch.

So you had that. Then you also had things in like World War II, like the U.S. Office of Censorship, right? A lot of suspension of civil liberties when war breaks out? Well, war is already broken out, and I think you're already facing civil liberty charges. Up until the last two weeks, if you mentioned Wuhan lab or the CCP or that it came or something like that you're banned from work we're close to it anyway well the reason we got banned for twitter i don't i've never had a twitter account there's dozens of fake accounts i've never had a twitter account war room pandemic had a twitter account you know we put it out jack the great just don't say what got you banned well

no no what he was putting up well what got banned was what they said i said about fauci and ray which was a metaphor right about thomas morris, which was a metaphor, right? About Thomas More. It's clearly a metaphor. No. But what we really got banned for was putting up the raw footage of the hard drive from hell, which we said, hey, you come for the porn and you stay for the compromise, right? You come from all – and we were putting up some pretty tasty stuff. But that's – That's where they really wanted to come down.

That's us losing our liberties in that war. 100%. I think we have lost. By the way, the Chinese Communist Party is pretty good about putting cultural power in the newspapers, the New York Times, or the Washington Post that all have the China Daily. China Daily is propped up. That's propped inside their thing. Yesterday, when Fauci does Kara Swisher's, her top podcast, and if you're in the tech business, you go to her podcast. She's a mover and shaker.

She's got that great podcast. In the middle of the podcast, sponsored by Huawei. Right. Huawei is the IT. They purged that. They purged that. I saw people tweeting saying they came in later and removed the. Are you kidding me?

I didn't even see that. Well, I saw people tweeting about it. Fact check me, guys didn't even see that. Well, I saw people tweeting about it. Fact-check me, guys, who are listening. Right. But Huawei is the IT department of the PLA. Okay? It's the People's Liberation Army's telecommunication division. Let's be brutally frank about that.

Okay? And she's sponsored, and Fauci's sitting there still trying to do the misdirection play? Hey, just saying. We'll read some more of these. We got Keyblade Master Andy says, Tim makes a solid pitch for crypto but as far as investing many people like myself don't even know where to begin uh coinbase yeah that's a good one coinbase uh website they're definitely overloaded but it's functional yeah gemini uh very very easy to use services they want to make it easy for regular people all right let's see we got oh

some people have retracted messages. All right. GG Players has a question for Steve. Telling business what to do with their capital and their facilities sounds like it might need a right authoritarian approach. It's interesting. We try not to be

authoritarian, but at some point in time, I don't believe in the total free flow of capital outside the united states right because otherwise you say oh you're going to increase taxes on the wealth they're just going to take all their money out of the united states if you do it with these corporations well hey hang on if you're domiciled here and you uh you uh live with the blessings of liberty that are provided by working class and middle class people that provide the substrate of civic society and provide the security, not just the police officers and the EMTs and the nurses,

but the military and these veterans and these active duty people all over. If you have the blessings of liberty, you got to put a little something in the pot. Okay. And it shows you the scam, the 25 billion. That's what, that's what you know and it's it's merrick garland i think's here the thing the the scam is u.s investigates this is the page of the financial times from the other day u.s investigates leak of records showing billionaires pay tax it's not investigating the billionaires or why they're not paying the taxes the number one thing this is u.s that was Merrick Garland, Joe Biden. So all you guys that voted for Biden, embrace this.

Don't give me your populism and how you're going to do this and you're going to do that. This is what you voted for. And so when the billionaires, the 24 billionaires have paid under $15 billion in taxes over five years, the number one thing Merrick Garland and Joe Biden wants to do is find out who leaked the records. And you're saying that's just taxes on the books, right? Exactly. That's taxing the books. All right.

So we don't have anything. But so, yes, I'm not a libertarian. I don't believe in the total free flow of capital throughout the world. I think there has to be some constraints on it. And you have to think of the national good and the good of the nation. And I certainly don't believe in the free flow of labor because that only helps to impoverish citizens brian nola says first time hearing bannon speak the media completely lied he's incredibly intelligent and i couldn't agree with him more i'll be seeking his podcast out bravo good sir thank you i think it's fairly obvious like all

the media about you was just the most ridiculous lies like far right authoritarian white supremacist was like the most insane things because i've i've i've uh i'm pretty far right i'm a populist i'm a nationalist what does that mean being far right well i don't agree i don't agree with this kind of middle ground where you're going i think that people somebody has to stand up for the working class people in this country but see the thing is when you're talking about left and right you have to figure you have to figure out where your definitions are. Are you talking about the political compass? Are you talking about the – there were like four different left and right spectrums 10 years ago.

There was left in terms of hierarchy and right in terms of anarchy. It was like very strange how people were defining left and right. So typically in the political compass, far-right just means free market. That doesn't mean anything other than that. And then authoritarian right means like, I guess, ideological control with a pseudo free market. It's very strange how people define what left and right means these days. When you say you're very much in favor of defending the working class, the left argues that's far left. Except I don't see their policies doing that. See, the first thing you say, are you open borders?

Are you for, are you for open borders? If you're open borders, you're destroying. All you're doing is putting the work, the most intense competition against the people least able to defend themselves. And that's the working class.

You're flooding the zone. What you're doing is flying the zone with cheap labor, right? And, and people can, and you're flooding the schools and the healthcare system. It all collapses. And you're not part of it because you're an elite right you're going to remember you have more in common with people in paris and people in shanghai and people in london than you do with

people in the rio grande valley that's the difference look i come from a blue collar principally democratic family that you know are very proitary. And that was kind of one of the big breaks of the Vietnam War. But we're working class people. And this is why I have such a bond with the Chinese people. I went to China early on as a young naval officer and fell in love with the country and the people in Lao Bai Jing. They are the most decent, family-oriented people on earth. And they have been crushed. One of the greatest civilizations on our planet.

They've never voted. They've never voted. They've never had any freedom whatsoever. They're still under an imperial power, which now is a transnational criminal organization. So if I have to dedicate my life to fighting for those people and giving those people a voice and working-class people, hey, that's, it's a it's a it's a great gig i couldn't i couldn't imagine anything better right on and by the way i don't also don't give i could give two dams what the media says or whatever says because here's what's whether i go to oxford or whether people come to the show they always say hey they lied about you i like what you have to say and that's all i care just listen to the content and see if

you agree or disagree and listen to it over time yep jonathan fell says hey tim is youtube censoring your channels and its growth statistic websites uh i will say this because other people have asked um for one thing is true youtube has notified me that they're going to be removing subscribers from my channels and not to worry about it i don't know what that means they say don't worry it's routine you'll see a drop in your subscriber amount sure whatever could be a few things. One, we've got a lot of people saying they're no longer getting notifications, even though they've liked the videos, they subscribe to the channel, and they hit the notification bell. YouTube still does not notify them of the stream. Yeah, that could be their thumb on the scale. Another big aspect of what's happening is

last year, everybody's locked in their houses, and it's an election year this means that political shows were massive us we were riding a wave man we had i think like 130 million total views across all platforms in september and into and and again in october is massive and into this year i reduced the amount of content i'm producing that That affects growth. Less people are interested in hard political content, talking about policy and things like that. A lot of people, it's summer. The lockdowns are ending. They want to go out and party.

They're not going to be late night watching these shows. So it could just be that a lot of people who are watching politics because it was an election year stopped and now views go down and that's a normal thing. You know, a lot of the channels that do culture war stuff, talking about movies and comics are still seeing, you know, moderate growth. My channels tend to be much more political than that. So it's no surprise. I'll tell you this 2022, our views will be massive. 2023, it'll go down a little bit, but then the presidential election will be kicking into 2023 anyway. So it'll skyrocket. This is the year where we just

came off a presidential election. No one really cares about the midterms yet. It's a lull period. So I will say this. I do think they put their thumb on the scales. I think they keep us out of the mainstream recommendation system, meaning the only I think they've quarantined politics on YouTube so that if you go to YouTube right now in a private tab, you're going to see Mr. Beast. You're going to see a bunch of mainstream pop culture.

They're building that up. And over time, slowly, this political space is going to shrink and shrink and shrink and get smaller. And they're only going to allow certain channels to actually function and operate. They're going to find more and more excuses to ban people. And then maybe in five years, channels like this won't exist on YouTube anymore. It'll be just a foofy Disney Plus kind of service. In which case, while it exists,

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Super Chats. All right, let's see what we got. We a lot of super chats and a lot of them uh will make youtube very angry so i'm trying to be very careful obviously homies yep all right let's see warlock home says mr bannon and tim i'm from china and i'm a permanent resident i have my family here what will happen to us if the war breaks out will we be deported or sent to camps will we be given In mainland China, the only people that can overthrow the Chinese Communist Party are the Chinese people. I think you have the diaspora of the Chinese people, about 250 million, three quarters of which support you, and of course your friends and allies in the West. The Chinese Communist Party is going to fall because they're a criminal organization and people are finally identifying and calling out. Sir, we hope and I pray that civil war does not break out in China,

but it won't if the Chinese people put their shoulder to the wheel. But what about hot war between the U.S. and China? What will that mean? I mean, look, in World War II, we put Japanese people in internment camps. But he lives in mainland China. What will that mean? I mean, look, in World War II, we put Japanese people in internment camps. Let's, but he lives in mainland China. Here's what I think. I think that we have to commit ourselves as populists and nationalists

to make sure we don't get to a shooting war, a kinetic war with the Chinese Communist Party in either Taiwan, the South China Sea, or other parts in India. We can't allow that. That's totally within our call to do. If we now wake up and force the political class to basically take on China in information warfare and particularly economic,

if we cut them off from capital markets, the dollar, 90 days we could bring this criminal organization to its knees, but we have to have the political will to do it. We must commit ourselves not to have a kinetic war because a kinetic war i'm telling you it could spin out of control and people would be hit with weapons uh weapons i think that people can't even imagine today oh yeah as bad as bad as worse than nuclear wars remember the cc this covet 19 ain't the worst thing they're cooking up in labs in China, okay? The CCP.

Have you seen the infrared lasers they have? I have not. So they have these gigantic infrared lasers that can point in the sky and just take down a plane or a drone. Imagine if you think you know the weapons right now. You have no idea. This is my point. They've been developing stuff and you'll never know

about the class. A lot of lasers and a lens and focus. I mean, that's just one thing. We cannot, we must commit ourselves that we would not,

by the way, we are prepared to fight and win a kinetic war. We must never get there. And the way not to get there is to fight the information cyber war now and to fight

the economic war. Do you think it's going to look like the Russian dissolution of the Soviet power? The Chinese chinese do you think you mean the breaking up of china into the warlords no i think hopefully if we do this right we destroy and take down the ccp and the people a populist movement in china installs democracy and they're able to go forward they're going to have speed bumps there's no doubt about it but no not to break china would stay intact all right chinese people uh svr wjr says is war room hiring reach out to my guys we're always looking for we're always looking for talent

talent you know we're we're i'm a pretty good judge of horse flesh and we're always looking for talent all right we got uh we we've got so many super chats i'll try and read a a few more but i definitely want to get as much time in on the bonus segment as possible uh because i feel like that will be particularly spicy you guys rock so let's just do uh we'll do a couple more and sorry if i couldn't get to as many people as we normally do i talked a lot um many things to say there's a lot of comments that that are like you know youtube is just waiting with their finger over the button ready to press ban so i'm like trying to read through them and make sure smart you know smart posse yeah yeah yeah so we'll just do a couple more here and i'll see i'll see

if i can uh find something um there's a lot of questions for this i won't read anyone particular but a lot of people are asking for your opinion on general flynn and what happened with all that mike my flynn is a great american he was railroaded uh he's a good man uh he's a tough guy he's always put the country first what happened to him and what how and going after him and and essentially trapping him to me shows you the danger of what the fbi is up to uh and what the the cia and these others are up to that's why you have to have a church commission. Just look at General Flynn. Look at his record. Look what he's done as a patriot.

Hasn't made a nickel. He's a guy who's always put his country first. He's a good man. He's a very good man. And you're going to see a lot more General Flynn in the future. All right. Ian Walker says, So, Mr. Bannon, how do we end slavery if we need it?

I doubt you will find an American who does not want to end slavery. And, yeah, all I have to say about Biden is he lost the stair race. What was that? He fell down the stairs? Yeah. How do we end slavery? Well, we talk about what's going on in China. Yeah.

And I find it funny because during Occupy Wall Street, there were a lot of people pointing out that these young people had iPhones. And they would laugh and be like, so what? I have an iPhone. It doesn't mean anything. And I would be like, I mean, it's made by slave laborers at Foxconn who are committing mass suicide. It's a horrifying story. Maybe you shouldn't buy Apple products. It's also a bunch of other components they make.

But if Americans love their luxury, why would they ever give that up? Well, I think there's a point that we have to have a national commitment to confront and to get our political class and our economic class to confront the Chinese Communist Party. And guess what? We've got to bring some of these Foxconn false promises to bring manufacturing back to Wisconsin, where the taxpayers of Wisconsin put it up. We have to have politicians, and we have to have their back. Populists have to understand this. Things may cost more. That's not the end of the world.

Your world's not going to collapse because your iPhone's more. But as soon as we get that, you're going to see a balance in the world. You're going to see a balance in the world. The Chinese are going to be able to manufacture stuff, but they're going to be able to pay people, and they're going to have environmental regulation. Remember, the big scam in the climate change and the Paris Accord is they're building more coal-fired factories than they're ever doing. They're polluting the rivers more. They're killing the Chinese people with what the Chinese Communist Party is putting in the environment. Right. We can we can solve all that by taking down the Chinese Communist Party.

And guess what? Bringing manufacturing back here. And hey, it's going to cost more. If you're in the Republican Party or the orthodoxy, they go, oh, you can't say that. You can't say things are going to because people want from a consumerist society. We have to change to a production society. Once we turn to a production society, that's the key that picks the lock. The sunlit uplands of a peaceful, prosperous nation are decades ahead of us, but we have to make that change today, and we can't make that change. It takes political will, and political will comes from the will of the people to back politicians that will do that.

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We don't use a TriCast or anything fancy like Crowder does, but we've got stream decks. It works well. We're actually moving into a new studio in the coming weeks. Wow. It's very exciting. Well, you guys are great. It was a real honor to be here tonight. Oh, no.

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