Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #320 - NYC Mayoral Election IN CHAOS As 135k "Test" Votes Counted w/Ben Stewart

Episode Date: July 1, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join filmmaker and musician Ben Joseph Stewart to analyze NYC's failed mayoral election with thousands of wrongly-counted votes, Joe Biden's incredible gaffe insulting WWII vets, a... judge using vaccination as part of parole, and myriad questions about the testing that's used to check for Covid, people seeking safety instead of truth and freedom, and the potential future techno-dystopia. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sometimes it's really hard to figure out what we're supposed to title these shows because we always have like, hey, here's the story today that matters most. And we have a really big story. Eric Adams, he's probably going to win the mayoral election in New York. Well, the results come in and he says, hey, something's not right with these numbers. There's like 100,000 more numbers now than there were on election night. And all of these mainstream establishment liberal and leftist journalists are going, oh, here we go. The pro cop, Eric Adams, is Trumpian. And it turns out he was right. And I guess the city admitted this huge error where 135,000 test votes were still included. And they have to now redo the whole count. Trump, of course, is coming out puffing
Starting point is 00:00:43 his chest being like, no one will ever know the results. And well, I think we will. But it's a really fascinating story. Not so much that they made this mistake. I mean, that's really important, too, because if it wasn't caught, who knows what would have happened, but how the media reacted to it. So that'll be fun. The other crazy thing is this story really tripping me out. A judge in Ohio has sentenced several men to be vaccinated. OK, I I get it. We want everyone to get vaccinated. I get it.
Starting point is 00:01:10 But for a judge to be like, OK, sir, you've you improperly handled a firearm. So we're going to do two years of probation and vaccination. It's like that. Shouldn't that be for a doctor to decide? Not a judge. So that's that's that's just creepy, weird government stuff. And just in the same vein, there's a funny story about Joe Biden confusing the Tuskegee Airmen with the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. And he like insinuated the heroic airmen were actually the guys with syphilis,
Starting point is 00:01:39 which is just like, Joe, what are you doing? And then of course, Bill Cosby was just released from prison. So we certainly got a lot to talk about tonight and uh we're hanging out some good people so actually why don't you introduce yourself you just you know instead of me yeah man i'm uh ben joseph stewart i was on uh last time talking about um the fourth turning and um i'm a filmmaker i try to talk about stuff that most people aren't talking about, but I try and put an awesome soundtrack and sound design to it and make it more artistic and poetic. And, yeah, man, I got lost this morning, and I ended up around D.C., so here I am. Worked perfect.
Starting point is 00:02:17 It's serendipity. It just works out. I'm glad you were guided by the magnetic currents. All the birds were gone. We got Ian over here. Yeah, I had a crazy experiment on mushrooms one time where I was like walking around
Starting point is 00:02:28 and I was lost and I was like, where am I? You know, I'm in Manhattan Beach and then all of a sudden I was right back where I started. I didn't intend to get back there, but I was guided.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Something guided me. Or was it coincidence? No, there's no such thing. It was the mushrooms for sure. Trust me, I'm not an expert. Well, I'm Ian Crossland. I'm also not an expert well i'm in crossland i'm also not an expert thanks man and i'm here in the corner i am intrigued by this retallying of the votes in the new york city mayoral race because eric adams is an african-american retired cop
Starting point is 00:02:56 and if this were happening in georgia they would be crying racism so hard so i'm really curious what happens we'll see what happens it's a lot of numbers. I know. Before we get started, of course, I always say go to TimCast.com, become a member. Oh, man, the alpha version of the site is sitting in my inbox, and I have to check it, but we're here doing the show. So this is big because it means probably in the next few days, maybe next week, the full new version of the site will be up. It's going to be fantastic. We have already hired, I think, four people this past week.
Starting point is 00:03:25 We've got writers. We've got production. We've got our in-house camera person. They're moving out here. It's going to be a blast. Our mysteries writer, this is going to be amazing. The article we have up so far, you've got to go to the site. You've got to check it out.
Starting point is 00:03:36 But I know, I know. We'll get it formatted better moving forward. But let me just tell you, we've got a bunch of amazing news articles popping up because we've brought in an additional reporter. But also yesterday we were hanging out with Candace Owens in the members-only section talking about the Mandela effect. What a silly conspiracy theory. Time travel. Oh, how fun. And Bill Gates talking about population management and controlling the population of the planet, which is a legitimate TED Talk. We actually went through the fact check and looked at his TED Talk.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You want to check that one out. A lot of people are watching it. So that's a members podcast over at TimCast.com. And we're going to have another very, very serious. I'm not going to say what we're going to talk about in the bonus podcast, but we're getting into like the dark territory of news. I'll just put it that way. I'll just put it that way. I can't say too much. YouTube will ban us, but it's going to get fun. And that'll be up around 11. You'll see the title of it anyway. Let's talk about this news story out of New York, which is, it's not so much that,
Starting point is 00:04:30 well, here's the story. New York City will redo its first round of ranked choice voting after accidentally including 135,000 test votes in official results. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:40 That's a very serious error, right? I'm not so worried about this. it is bad eric adams who was projected to win he's what you said he was a retired cop yeah he is all right retired cop pro cop um he's probably gonna win and he noticed this what's crazy about this story is the reaction from the mainstream press i mean it is crazy if the dude didn't catch this who knows what would have happened would have been ridiculous but the mainstream press immediately comes out saying he was acting like Donald Trump. Check this out. We got a few tweets here that highlight a lot of this.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Glenn Greenwald says, this is really amazing. Countless smug liberals spent hours maligning and sneering at Eric Adams as a Trumpian fraud for questioning the NYC election results. When those questions were completely vindicated, they slinked away. Michael Tracy said, pundits at 5.30 p.m. It's some despicable Donald Trump-ish for Eric Adams to question the veracity of these election results. NYC Board of Elections at 10.30 p.m.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Turns out we actually did add 135,000 fake votes. Greenwald then goes on to say media matters, needless to say, pushed the same attacks on Eric Adams for questioning what were clearly the sketchy election results, results which were ultimately withdrawn as false. All right, man, look, we got some serious problems right now with stuff like this. The media's instinctive reaction is going to be tribalist. The government is is always right there's never any problems in the elections trust everything on its first go do do no fact checking i don't i'm i'm less how do i how do i put this the media is the problem is that is that fair to say is that the easiest way to put it
Starting point is 00:06:21 yeah they're they're the story spinners and they are definitely the ones that put forward the stories that um like you said this before they even knew what was going on they already had their story lined up you gotta wonder you definitely gotta wonder i i'd say the media in general what was what was that one i forget um what they were like somebody lined up the same narrative over and over and over again? Oh, the gun thing. You're talking about how you would Google search like, you would search something like X amount of gun deaths, and then
Starting point is 00:06:53 you'd see all of these different news outlets with the identical story. Yeah, except they would change the name of the city and the amount of gun deaths. And then they would all say, you know, so-and-so advocates say that we must have more gun control. You couldn't, this is what's crazy about this.
Starting point is 00:07:09 You wouldn't know about that without the internet. Back in the day, you'd walk to your cafe or whatever, you'd pick up the Milton Township Times and it would have this crazy story about gun deaths and why we need gun control.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And you'd be like, wow, that's crazy. Written by someone you know. Now today, they do the the same thing but we go on google we see it it's all lined up like tennessee milwaukee you know detroit all saying the exact same thing the time news article time news magazine where they'll have like a different uh cover depending on the country that they're in because it's all about manipulating the populace and they call it ab testing so they'll they'll have uh people actually point this out too they've you know depending on if you're good if you're following some honest people there'll be a cover for a newspaper and it'll
Starting point is 00:07:54 say something like donald trump you know uh stands defiant in the face of democrat onslaught and that that will be a newspaper that appears in a red state the same newspaper with the exact same story will reframe the whole thing saying democrats condemn bigotry and corruption of donald trump and it's the same exact story they just change the title because they know different ones will sell i would say that it's not the media necessarily because this is media this show and it's but there's like an organization that owns a lot of media structure like abc msnbc i mean i have never really followed the trail too far up the chain because a lot of times it gets obfuscated yeah you're right no media is archetypal like we desire media and people
Starting point is 00:08:38 congregate around okay well we'll give you the news like what was the first industrial complex when they came out with the printing press? Was that technically the first? I went through this at one point to figure out what was the first, the second, the third. We're in the midst of the fourth right now. But I mean, it really launched by being able to get news out faster, quicker, getting more news out. So I mean, what is news other than stories you should believe?
Starting point is 00:09:03 But what is the undertone? There's always a victim. That's you, the reader. You're always the victim, the freedom-loving American. You're the victim, and we'll tell you who the bad guy is, whose head's on the chopping block today. Because there's always a head on the chopping block, and it's always like, look at these terrible people making your life so difficult.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And if you think about it, what would you want in a family? You would want an example of what does forgiveness look like? How do we get through this debacle? How do we not make it so where we always need to bring the hammer down? And sometimes you need to bring the hammer down, let's be honest. Humans, maybe we're a bit like chickens. We give ourselves a little bit too much credit. Like in this story, for instance, it's not like the journalists were sitting behind closed doors all twirling mustaches going, we're going to, you know, smear anyone who dares impose.
Starting point is 00:09:57 It seems like a genuine mistake. The city included these test votes or whatever. That seems like really bad. But they were all aligned with each other and following that system that you said who's the victim you're the victim these are the bad guys they're the ones who are in trouble so when eric adams comes out and says hey i noticed this problem they follow that that narrative this guy is like trump he's trying to pull a fast one on you and he's the bad guy they didn't care to do any fact fact checking right they didn't care to make a single phone call to figure out what was actually going on but i will mention this is this is legitimately true for all media including ours so i i can do
Starting point is 00:10:35 a video where i did a video recent segment a couple days ago talking about how this legislation in pennsylvania to ban critical race theory was actually going to be bad because it would prohibit people from talking about what it said. You couldn't say things that were racist or sexist. Well, if you said biological males tend to outperform biological females in football, that would be determined sexist and the legislation would ban that as well. It was like the bill made no sense, but it didn't follow this formula. It was just like, hey, this is a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:11:04 We should rethink these things. people are less interested in that they want to know who's the bad guy making their lives worse not everybody i think for the most part this show is a lot of critical thinkers who watch but we do have like any other media outlet a lot of people who are just like who's the bad guy you know how are they screwing with us? And that tends to be the narrative that everyone takes. It's almost like coffee. It definitely hits the amygdala, right? The way that news arrives at us, there's an urgency. There's always an urgency.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And like, in a sense, I also like that. I listen to your show a lot. And I appreciate the immediacy of what's being talked about and the urgency of it. What I do like about it is knowing you're independent and also knowing that you bring on people that legitimately have different opinions as well. You know, so... We try to get a lot of the leftists. They're harder to get. And some of them are just...
Starting point is 00:11:58 I've seen some of those interviews. And you're right. It's difficult to actually get people to come on to have those kinds of conversations. But've seen the way you handle it and i've seen the way you all handle it and like you don't all completely agree now you talk about other news there's this you know when was the last time you've seen two anchors sitting side by side like uh no that's actually not what i think dude that would be awesome it was called crossfire and And Jon Stewart went after Tucker Carlson and ragged on him because he said it was bad that we were debating on public TV because it was creating spectacle. And he was wrong. You actually had primetime television where thought leaders were sitting there debating ideas.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And so Jon Stewart comes on and he's like, you're a grown man with a bow tie. It's like, Jon, I'm a big fan. But we needed that space. It's so hard to get that back now it is we we have whenever whenever i bring up that's hard to get like hardcore leftists on the show i get inundated with grifters like people who have no intention of actually having a real debate they just want to pull sound bites they want to lie and then there's that one famous uh i'm not going to mention his name who publicly says says, I will come on your show.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I'm like, name the time and date. We fly you out here. We'll cover all costs. I really appreciate it. And he goes, here's the date. And I said, great. And then he privately messages me, I'm not coming on your show. Yeah, the whole bit.
Starting point is 00:13:14 It was a bit. Yeah, it's really difficult. Now, I'll be honest. There are some people on the right that I'm also like, these people are just trying to come on here and drag and they want to get attention and all this stuff. But it's the exception, not the rule. For a lot of these leftist YouTubers, it's the rule, not the exception. And I think that's true when you look at someone like Eric Weinstein. I mean, this guy
Starting point is 00:13:34 is a progressive. He is an elite, wealthy, teal capital progressive saying something is wrong with the Democratic Party and the establishment and the media. And here's what I find really funny about this whole media thing and these YouTubers. Like, following
Starting point is 00:13:50 that system you mentioned, how it's like, you're the victim, here's the bad guy. I'm like, dude, they're the empire. They have control of the cultural institutions. They have the presidency, the House, and the Senate. I can understand why people are like, you know, from 2016 and 18, the Republicans had everything. But they didn't have colleges.
Starting point is 00:14:05 They didn't have cultural institutions, movies, radio, whatever. Or even YouTube. YouTube is dominated by left, you know, left, by the left. And so right now the right has like Facebook shares. It's like, dude, you're literally on the side of Darth Vader complaining about the small, marginalized, rural folk. It feels like the Empire, before it became the Empire in Star Wars, when it was still the Republic
Starting point is 00:14:28 and Darth Vader had not yet donned the mask and the Emperor still wears regular clothing and looks like a human. And what changed? What caused that to become the Empire in Star Wars? They won. What was it? Once he gained total control,
Starting point is 00:14:44 he eliminated the Jedi Council. Then he was like, we're going to dissolve the Republic and make it a new galactic empire. And they used the Trade Federation as like a false flag? Is that what it was? Yeah, he was manipulating the Trade Federation to create a crisis that he would exploit.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Okay, so that's where we're at now in history. Well, I don't know about any grand... It's probably just a movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not going to go here – sit here and assume that Joe Biden is like secretly orchestrating Taiwanese – I'm sorry, Chinese air invasions into Taiwanese defensive space or anything like that. There's something going on with that too because it's either super intentional the way they're making Joe Biden look right now, or, and I don't know what else. I mean, like, to say that he's coordinating anything other than a couple neurons firing together,
Starting point is 00:15:35 you know, it almost seems like they're putting on an act to make him seem worse than he is. Because, like, I don't recall... I don't know. You tell me. When the race was going on, did he seem this bad or did it seem like he declined within a month? He wasn't here.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Remember he kept putting a lid on everything? Never shut up for any press? I got an idea for an animated short. It's Joe Biden standing at a podium and a journalist asks him a softball question and then he's shaking and tensing up and sweating and it zooms in on his brain and you see the last two neurons like crawling to each other and then they reach out and touch and there's a spark and he goes that's all he musters out that's it I think he's not the emperor uh in this metaphor Biden I think
Starting point is 00:16:21 it's like someone we don't know or actually I think I think there isn't one. And we're brainwashed to think there's an enemy. Just like this stupid news thing. He is the emperor. Remember? When the emperor's on the ground and he's like, please. He's in that moment right now. You know what I like about this theme that we're on, though, is if things do go in a way somewhat like that, who was it that actually brought balance?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Data force. Right? So, I mean, to me, I've always been thinking like, you know, I research a lot of really dark stuff. I even have people asking me, like, with the stuff that you research, and I'm not saying dark as in like the worst of the worst. I really, I just take a look at like, where's our data going what what is the big push what's the big agenda going on right now and people are like how do you balance your nervous system when you're reading this stuff every day and i'm like i move i skate around i i disassociate from my brain for a while so i can hash it out on the subconscious i can hash it out in different ways and then was thinking like, there's got to be really good people in high places
Starting point is 00:17:25 that just their mouths are shut. And I'm not drawing a one-to-one correlation with a Darth Vader saying like, no, we're good guys, don't worry, because there's some good people in high places. I still think there's an ominous challenge that we're all facing right now. But I just, maybe it's just hope.
Starting point is 00:17:42 But I really think there are some good people in high places that are keeping their mouths shut, but when, I don't know what S has to hit what fan for them to really be like, all right, this is when I actually use my voice. You know, this is when I actually take a stand. It's going to be like a middle-aged man's Taco Bell night
Starting point is 00:18:03 above one of those Dyson air blades. That's like the level of – That's the worst visual. But like in Star Wars, for some reason we're talking about Star Wars, the Empire had their reign and then things did get better so long as there are people in a resistance who are fighting back. Now, let's forget the sequel films. Those were nonsense trash
Starting point is 00:18:25 i don't even consider them star wars no it's weird fan fiction but can we can we talk about biden's mental state to go back to this neurons firing thing i've been wanting to talk about his mental state for a while yes well well now you get to from uh this is from al.com biden confuses tuskegee airmen with syphilis study victims in explaining covid vaccine reluctance what this is the perfect storm of of biden's brain just breaking on tv because not only were people like yo that's like really racist for more than one reason he was like saying that latinx people and minorities yeah yeah don't want to get vaccinated because they're scared and he's like remember the tuskegee airmen and it's like oh dude okay okay okay let's slow down for a minute the tuskegee airmen are heroes there was didn't trump
Starting point is 00:19:15 present an award to one like a couple years ago yeah recently he like stood up and then like everyone was cheering for this guy they're they're they're they're amazing heroes the tuskegee syphilis experiments were horrifying acts where the government basically told people they were being treated for their disease, but they were just being watched die. These are people who could have been treated.
Starting point is 00:19:36 The guy was like, yeah, but we want to see what happens if we don't treat them, so we'll just keep giving them placebos. Joe Biden. Joe Biden, ladies and gentlemen. Here's the story. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Let me read a little bit. Okay, okay. Joe Biden is drawing criticism for comments he made that mixed up the Tuskegee Airmen, a heroic group of African-American World War II pilots, with victims of an infamous
Starting point is 00:20:01 Alabama syphilis study. Speaking on the reluctance of some people to get COVID-19 vaccines, Biden said it was harder to get African-Americans initially vaccinated because it used to be that they experimented on them, the Tuskegee Airmen and others. I just want to say, like, all right, look, I understand Biden's not all with it. My bigger concern is if,
Starting point is 00:20:24 remember when he was doing the thing at the G7 where he said Libya instead of Syria over and over again? Could you imagine if he's like sitting there in front of Putin and he's like, if you want the sanctions lifted, you got to get out of Libya. And Putin goes, okay. Deal. Signs it, hands it over. And then like Syria blows up. You know, whatever. That's the problem with him not speaking properly now in this instance it's more of a facepalm where he literally accused these heroic world war ii pilots of being syphilitic men who are used by the
Starting point is 00:20:57 government in an experiment it's gonna people are gonna think it's true now too for their whole lives oh yeah yep yep there are a lot of people this is the crazy thing who they heard him say it and and it's like we're just talking about the media yes that when the when the when the nyc election thing happens and this guy eric adams legit like hey this looks wrong the media attacks him like crazy how many people heard biden say that and they're like that's right the tuskegee airmen had syphilis i think this is more like the mandela effect we were talking about last night because now he's interjected this idea. We skipped timelines. It really was the Tuskegee Airmen. Biden actually is the only one that knows.
Starting point is 00:21:31 He's the dimensional ship. It's going to be like 30 years and someone's going to be like on a podcast, which is like virtual reality or something. And they're like, don't you remember that experiment with the Tuskegee Airmen where they were given syphilis? And they're like, yeah, I remember that. It never happened. Dude, it wasn't the Airmen where they were given syphilis? And they're like, yeah, I remember that. It never happened. Dude, it wasn't the Airmen. According to Snopes.com,
Starting point is 00:21:49 it was actually a CDC experiment. Whoa. Dude, I remember though. Dude, my great-grandfather served in the Tuskegee Airmen. My great-grandfather? Yeah. Well, in the future, that's what they'll say. Look,
Starting point is 00:22:10 syphilis is an std right like these are these are so the the study was like people who got the std went to get treatment and the government was like yeah we're gonna give you free health care and then didn't treat them and just let them slowly die like it's kind of dishon i'm not trying to rag on people who contract illnesses or anything like that but like to look at this photo of these like World War II pilots, and then Joe Biden to accidentally say they all had syphilis, that's like a brutal thing to say about these guys. He owes their family
Starting point is 00:22:34 some reparations. Agreed. Slander. Reparations. David E. Martin, in a talk he gave at the Free and Brave conference, gets into the actual story with the right Tuskegee experiment. Well, so I have it. This is interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I just pulled it up from the CDC.gov. And what they say about it, and we were just before the show, I had pulled up the original reporting, which they have here as well. They say in 1932, the U.S. Public Health Service with the Tuskegee Institute began a study to record the natural history of syphilis. They say the study initially involved 600 black men, 399 with syphilis, 201 who did not have the disease.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Participants' informed consent was not collected. Researchers told the men they were being treated for bad blood, a local term to describe several ailments, including syphilis, anemia, fatigue. In exchange for taking part in the study, the men received free medical exams, free meals, and burial insurance. Think about that.
Starting point is 00:23:35 They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll take care of you. And then, like, we'll pay for it when you die. They mentioned that by 1943, penicillin was a treatment of choice for syphilis becoming widely available but that but the participants were not offered treatment the u.s government knew they could save the lives of these men but the cdc and the u.s public health service were like let's watch him die and see what we can you know we'll write it down definitely garnered a lot of data i'm sure and you know david e mart, who I was just mentioning, did say that the CDC, and I haven't actually gone to verify this,
Starting point is 00:24:10 but apparently started with studying why malaria kills some people and not others. It's really like trying to understand plagues, which makes sense for the greater story of the CDC. But it is kind of interesting. And David E. Martin, this was a talk where he was talking about life insurance companies and what we're experiencing now as being a life insurance illiquidity event. I'll have to look that one up. Well, people, there's commercials.
Starting point is 00:24:37 They're like, we will buy your life insurance. Struggling financially? Sell us your life insurance. Reverse mortgages. Are you old and going to die? We'll take your house from your children. Yeah. Well, he was saying 30-year mortgages are you old and gonna die we'll take your house from your children yeah well he was saying 30-year mortgages uh when that really started like what what 30-year cycles happen in nature he was like nothing natural it was the life expectancy of when a
Starting point is 00:24:57 blue-collar worker could buy a home to when he would die so you can pay off the bank pay off the mortgage by the time that the bank can foreclose on the house. And I mean, this, this is pretty, you know, he's going deep and he's very hyperbolic when he's talking about these things. But it,
Starting point is 00:25:14 what I like about looking at these things and then going and skating and hashing it out in my mind is not all of it is bunk. Like some of it, it makes you look deeper into history and be like, I did not know that about the CDC. Do you know what mortgage means? Mortgage? Dead.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Dead, like a corpse. Death deal. Death deal. Whoa. That's a root word. Or if you look it up, it says pledge. So death pledge. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah. You're like, why? Why are we taking out death pledges with banks? Right. That's weird. I've even heard of the same thing with like corporations, Marine Corps, the way you actually spell that. Corp. Yeah. Corpus.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Well, this was actually in one of my films, Ungripped, that was all about – it got into maritime admiralty law and legalese, how the name of a lot of these things – it sounds like you're talking English, but you're actually not. These have alternative meanings. Well, the Latin is corporare, meaning combine in one body. Body, yeah. So maybe corp was the body. Not a dead body. Not a dead body. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It would be like mort corp or something. Yeah. Mort corp. Sign me up. That's the name of my death metal band. Dead bodies. Mort Corp. Sign me up. That's the name of my death metal band. Dead bodies. Mort Corp. I like that you brought up
Starting point is 00:26:29 Admiralty Law. I think something not a lot of people know about is that there's, what is it, civil law and Admiralty Law? There's a whole bunch and they all seem
Starting point is 00:26:36 to go back to ecclesiastical law according to my friend who did this film. And it's an interesting thing if you are in a certain form of law in court, according to my friend, White Walking Feather,
Starting point is 00:26:48 who robbed in the Paget family, he said you can pull it back to earlier forms of law. And he would always, when he was in court for not having a driver's license and he gave up his birth certificate and all those things, he would get pulled into court and he would bring it back to ecclesiastical law
Starting point is 00:27:03 where they had to recognize him as flesh and blood rather than a legal fiction. Like before the Social Security cards were invented. They've kind of corporatized law or I don't know how to describe it exactly. But like I'm fascinated with admiralty law. That's like the law of the sea. They say like you're birthed when you arrive in a port and you come onto the land as a fresh you know citizen or whatever you are human resource as well because that that number on the back of your birth certificate uh is in a human resource database um rather than like you know some kind of medical database uh which
Starting point is 00:27:38 makes sense you know i i see a lot of people that they they they draw different things from all this. And to me, I feel like we've been moving into this managed. You mentioned when Bill Gates was talking, he said, use the word management. Population management. That word, we'll talk about more of that in the after section. We can say this. The conspiracy theory is that bill gates is like i'm gonna kill all these people when he's actually saying i want to make sure these people don't
Starting point is 00:28:11 exist and that's the acceptable mainstream ted talk bill so bill there's this article from reuters it's a fact check they're like bill gates did not say he wanted to wipe out 50 of the population what he said was we want to prevent 15% of population growth. So it's interesting that it's mainstream and acceptable to be like, if the people don't exist in the first place, we're good. Can somebody verify real quick?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Because, I mean, I watch a lot of media and sometimes I keep an info in the back of my head and I'm just like, I don't know. But his parents, Bill Gates' parents, anyone familiar? Planned Parenthood? I don't know. Okay. I don't want to dive too deep into that.
Starting point is 00:28:53 But the whole idea about management is what I'm talking about with where we're kind of headed with data proliferation and data aggregators. And everything is data now. Your medical data is being shared in ways that people are starting to argue about, but like where we're heading through this entire process that the world is going through right now is a lot more about management. And you'll hear people like Alison McDowell, who I recommend everybody go check out wrench in the gears.com. Alison McDowell is putting together how a lot of these dots connect. And she's saying a lot of it is poverty management for the coming five, six, seven, eight years and beyond.
Starting point is 00:29:30 That's what Bill Gates called his poverty management. Poverty management. And that includes reducing population growth. I want to mention this just real quick. Like if you speak French, you know that mortgage means death pledge. I don't quite understand why we call it that. That's not- Horrific. Yeah, I know. A death pledge. Death pledge. I don't quite understand why we call it that. That's not... Horrific.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yeah, I know. A death pledge. Death pledge. That's a better name for a death metal band. Death Pledge or Mort Corp. Mort Corp. Mort Corp will be the first album. It's not actually Latin, though, anyway.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I looked it up. But let's jump from Biden's broken brain to where we get into the freaky. And this story rightly freaked me out i'm gonna start by saying something very very simple dr fauci is not your doctor and he doesn't know what's right for you because you could have some weird growth on your butt i don't know your doctor's got to tell you what that what that is not fauci and joe rogan as well these people are allowed to have their opinions of course but you got to talk to your own doctors i say it 51 million times because we have the story here columbus judge is adding a new term
Starting point is 00:30:30 to defendants probation get your covid shot this is literally a judge sentencing people to vaccination that let me give you an example they say a man named cameron stringer entered a guilty plea for one charge of improperly handling firearms in a motor vehicle for which he was sentenced to two years of probation. They call it community control in Ohio. I just want to point out. Is that it? Second Amendment lawsuit right there, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:54 If somebody gets sentenced to probation because they were handling firearms, mishandling them, then I think there may be an advocacy group which could sue, get this taken up at the Supreme Court, file an appeal, and maybe get it overturned on the grounds of like, you're allowed to handle firearms, whatever. Now, in this instance, I guess what happened was the gun wasn't his. So Ohio was like, not yours. Give it back to the owner. Two years probation. to a random drug screening, avoid further legal trouble, return a firearm in question to its rightful owner, and obtain a COVID-19 vaccine within 30 days
Starting point is 00:31:29 and provide proof to the probation department. I don't get it. Why is a judge telling people to get a medical treatment? This is the problem when you have 50 million celebrities all being like,
Starting point is 00:31:41 you should go get a specific... Let me slow down. Imagine if you had every celebrity being like, you should all be taking Percocets. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Like, yes, I understand why we prescribe these painkillers to people who really need them. But celebrities shouldn't be going on. It's actually against the law, I'm pretty sure, for them to do ads. They have to, like, label them as ads when they advocate for anything.
Starting point is 00:32:05 It's like a medical treatment or whatever. Yet in this instance, it is widely acceptable. And in fact, you can get banned for even questioning it. The doctor's got to be the one to tell you, man. Slight question. If celebrities were like, you should roll around in the mud. But then if they were like, you should roll around in the mud because it's good for your immune system. Is that then considered health advice where the first one is not?
Starting point is 00:32:26 The issue is you're allowed to give all the health advice in the world except on this one issue. That's the weirdest thing. Now, listen. There's a really – There's a judge. I know. Right, right, right. The judge is not a doctor.
Starting point is 00:32:37 What happens if this guy goes to the doctor and the doctor is like, you've got a lump on your butt. I'm recommending no for the vaccine. You've got to overrule the court. Right, right, right. But what if he's like, I don't care. I don't care. He's like, he should be saying, you should go to a doctor and request an evaluation to see if you could get the vaccine
Starting point is 00:32:54 and if you can, we would like you to get it. Even that is weird. Right. You know, like even saying like, I'm not going to order you to get your vaccine in 30 days, but I recommend like what judge what what jurisdiction? Everything is about jurisdiction there. That's what I'm curious about.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Where is the jurisdiction to include that? What if the doctor was like, have you had your appendix removed? And the guy's like, no, no, your honor. Why not? I don't know. Well, within 30 days, submit proof that you've had it removed. I understand one's a more serious medical procedure than the other. But I'm super curious.
Starting point is 00:33:35 What is the precedent for this? We just got done talking about the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. Like, under what circumstances should a governing body be able to tell you you're going to get a medical procedure you guys you guys are going to love the next part of this this is an article from dispatch.com this is a usa today network website gary daniels a lobbyist with the aclu expressed concern about the practice thursday comparing it to ohio judges who have ordered defendants convicted of crimes not to procreate i'm staying away from ohio i'm glad i left love you ohio but come on yeah mr crossland you have been convicted of
Starting point is 00:34:12 rocking the gunge uh for this you can never have kids no babies you can't stop me your honor what the hell much love bro this dude this dude apparently so like i actually have the story this guy um apparently had 11 kids. And even his crime was not paying child support. Are you joking? That was the crime. Wow. And so they were like, you can't have any more kids.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And he was like, BS. And he sued and said, you can't tell me I can't have kids. Yeah. And the Supreme Court was like, you can't tell someone they can't have kids. That's what I'm wondering with this other thing is like my worry is like, do they have jurisdiction? Is there some weird wording and loophole? I'm pretty sure they do. A lot of people since the vaccine thing started have been saying like you can't mandate medical treatments and you have no right to my private records. And I'm fairly certain I could be wrong with this that there's an exception in the
Starting point is 00:35:06 americans disabilities act for public health requirements and that does make sense i mean like come on if there was a zombie apocalypse you'd be right on board with whatever we had to do to stop the zombie apocalypse the issue now is actually i take that back like it's politics man you'd be surprised i don't think people know how to trust. And I know this is like it might seem like a huge jump, but even if there was a zombie apocalypse, imagine the amount of people who would be like, I don't trust what anyone tells me. I'm going to deal with this my way. And I kind of feel like that would be a big issue. Like even if there were a world event that could unite everybody, I don't think people know how to trust enough right now especially not right now i don't know if they ever did you you're probably right about that yeah um maybe
Starting point is 00:35:50 small communities but this like countries that are this big definitely not but there is rule by fear so i'd be willing to bet that if like a zombie apocalypse happened in china they would just gun everybody down and say like look you know, collateral damage. If we shoot everybody, we'll save the 10% on non-zombie people. Right. Or you have to move to Ohio. That's even worse. That's a punishment, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:14 In Ohio, there was this man who his house burnt down. His cat died in the house fire. I forget his name. I think it was Youngstown, Ohio. But anyway, he had a pacemaker, a smart pacemaker. And afterwards, the fire department noticed that the fire looked like it was set in several different locations of the house. So they went to the manufacturer of his pacemaker to get the data. They used that in court to show that he was very active when the fires were set.
Starting point is 00:36:48 So his pacemaker testified against him in court. Holy crap. Yeah. Did you hear the story about there was like a murder and then the police subpoenaed Amazon for, I'm not going to say the robot's name because we have one, subpoenaed, like there's a recording of this and everybody was like, that's not possible. You have to tell it to record and they were like oh no it recorded
Starting point is 00:37:07 everything these these oh i heard more about that apparently so it was a domestic this is the domestic abuse yeah something like that and and it turned on and then the guy was like did you call the sheriff and then it called the sheriff when it heard that and then the sheriff listened in i don't believe it this is what i heard yeah it's anecdotal i can't get that dumb thing to play the right song half the time i'm trying to get it to play some mountain john and it keeps putting on some other weird modern hip-hop garbage of the world yeah seriously it's it's got like 20 i want to hear goodbye yellow brick road it's got like 2050 technology in what data they're trying to gather but when you're trying to get your song to play it's it's like circa 1922 technology but but remember when they were when police departments were using ring cameras that people have on their front doors they were hacking in
Starting point is 00:37:55 and they had a like a deal with i think it was amazon and these these entire police departments could just tap on in whenever they wanted to. So I totally believe that they used the little friend over there to call the sheriff when somebody mentioned that. It's all for our safety. I hope you guys know that. I feel very safe. You're right. Safety over security.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Security over freedom. What does Charles Eisenstein call it? He said, we have been bowing at the altar of safety for so long. And somebody else put it in a way, he said, he said, like, what we need to be doing is demonstrating living at all costs rather than staying alive at all costs. And it really does seem like the way you manage people is you make them believe that death and destruction and bad things are right around the corner, unless behavior modulation, behavior, you know, it's, you have to modify your
Starting point is 00:38:46 behavior let me let me let me read you the story from science mag.org a judge said police can search the dna of 1 million americans without their consent what's next there's also several stories of states pushing back on police subpoenaing ancestry data so people get these kits from these you know these 23andme and Ancestry.com. And then the cops are like, let's hit him up and get that data. And so now it's like
Starting point is 00:39:10 a big legal battle. And this is an older story, but very much so. Where was that? This is ScienceMag.org. It just says... I can read a little bit. Search warrant reported
Starting point is 00:39:20 by the New York Times raises alarming possibility of similar police searches of giant direct-to-consumer DNA sites, just Ancestry and 23andMe, that are now closed to everyone except company customers who willingly submit saliva samples. in hopes that their family trees could help them hone in on a suspect, even though most of the 1.3 million people who have shared their DNA with the site haven't agreed to such a search. So this is a genealogy site called the GED Match. It's not the first time. It won't be the last time.
Starting point is 00:39:57 No. Data misappropriation is literally written into the fine print, so it can be shared in case of X y and z and x y and z can be pulled out of any hat and i just fingerprints on your phone interesting how many people have taken their smartphone and given it all their fingerprints for convenience i've done that and now itunes or i'm sorry apple and google are like when you have you read the terms on this thing i'd be willing to bet it says you give us access to your fingerprint image to use and exploit as we see fit because how else would it actually work?
Starting point is 00:40:27 They need permission to use your fingerprint then they have it and when they get subpoenaed for your fingerprints congratulations, you're fingerprinted. Yeah, totally, totally. And you mentioned Ancestry.com they were just bought not too long ago 75% of which bought by Blackstone.
Starting point is 00:40:44 The other 25% is owned by China. Oh, no. It's a place in China. I don't believe that. Check it out. No way. Ancestry.com last August. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Kind of what terrifies me that Apple now has my fingerprints, theoretically, is that they could then put my fingerprints somewhere. Blackstone bought your DNA. Come on, man. Look at this. And your house. Yes. Blackstone.com. I can't look at this and your house yes blackstone.com literally from their website
Starting point is 00:41:09 Blackstone completes acquisition of Ancestry leading online family history business for 4.7 billion yo they bought your DNA dude and you know what the funny thing is I'll tell you this
Starting point is 00:41:20 they don't got my DNA they got my parents DNA yeah that's all they got both my parents DNA so they got they got some amalgamation of yours. They don't got my DNA. They got my parents' DNA. Yeah, that's all they got. They got both my parents' DNA. So they got some amalgamation of yours, though they don't know exactly which ones made it through, but they might have enough. They might know that you are 97.3% likely
Starting point is 00:41:34 to have a certain gene marker or something like that. Creepy. Am I allowed... Well, we were talking about earlier with the genetics. Yes. Am I allowed to just ask a question? I don't know. I think so.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Maybe we should save the really dark stuff for the bonus. Well, it's not really dark. It's just a question about testing. I would think so. Okay. I love this. Well, I mean, do you know who came up with the PCR test? No.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Cary Mullis. Oh, yes. Yeah. Okay. I won't even go super deep into this, but Cary Mullis came up with the PCR test. He just died very recently. And when the PCR test was starting to be used to test, he was like, guys, this isn't what you use to test an active virus inside the body. He's not around anymore to comment on that. But what PCR is really good for is, is rapidly replicating DNA,
Starting point is 00:42:28 rapidly replicating it. PCR tests. Like, so it was Paul Murray's chain reaction. And like, you know, I, I learned this by realizing how you can teleport DNA,
Starting point is 00:42:39 uh, via vibrant, via email. You take, so basically, and this was Peter Gayaev. He was a Russian scientist. And then Iona and Alan Miller, if anyone wants to check that out, reversed this thing called the phantom DNA experiment.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I won't explain it now. But anyways, it was Luc Montagnier. You might know that name. Yes. Okay. So he basically took DNA, infused it into water, kind of like cucumber infused water, but this DNA infused water. And then they removed all DNA particulate through a filter. Then it's just infused with the vibratory signature of the DNA. They took that, they encoded that into an MP3
Starting point is 00:43:18 like file, emailed it from Canada to Italy, I believe it was. Then they took that vibratory signature, impregnated it into distilled water, and then from there, they needed one extra step to turn it back into DNA, and that was PCR. I want to say, when you break it down like that,
Starting point is 00:43:37 it does kind of sound crazy, but it just sounds like they found a way to encode DNA and transport it digitally. So that was that story. And the question, and here's the thing. I'm not making a statement here. I'm just kind of curious. The guy who created and got a Nobel Peace Prize for the creation of the PCR test saying this is not how you test for what you're actively testing for.
Starting point is 00:44:02 He could be wrong. He may not have known. I got people who say I don't think they're harvesting DNA. And I, to me, I'm like. So they're looking at like a DNA reaction to a virus with the PCR test. And then you think they're using that data then and transmitting it digitally elsewhere? I don't think it's that simple. I don't think it's that simple.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Bro, Blackstone just bought Ancestry.com. They don't need to do any of that. They've got the DNA. How many, how many, what's the ratio of the population that are on Ancestry.com. They don't need to do any of that. They've got the DNA. How many, what's the ratio of the population that are on Ancestry.com or 23andMe? Because there's another one, like 20,
Starting point is 00:44:32 or Vianette, 21 Vianette or something like that. There's other DNA ones. There's the 23andMe, there's Ancestry. Right. And a lot of them
Starting point is 00:44:39 are actually bought by same companies left with the same branding. I know 21 Vianette, I think that's what it's called, was also Blackstone. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Look, look, look. I don't know. I'm just going to leave it at that. Right. We get to that wall where it's like, man, we could speculate for 50 million years. We have no idea other than Blackstone's a creepy company who's buying up all the houses and they got our DNA from Ancestor. They managed $8.7 trillion.
Starting point is 00:45:03 It would be cool to digitally send DNA to Mars and then grow it on Mars without having to transport it. That's kind of interesting. That's what Catherine Austin Fitz in Solari.com was saying. With a high-powered enough laser, you could send it off-planet. So here's the thing. Again, very speculative, but I was wondering, like, how would you send it off-planet and get through the aberrations, get fidelity through the aberrations of the atmosphere? Just a long enough period of time. Or send it from a satellite.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Or you send it from the 30-meter telescope they're trying to build on Mount Achaea that for real deep observation, they use these mirrors that react in real time to the adjustments or to the aberrations in the atmosphere to adjust the way it distorted light back into a normal signal so you could do the same in the other direction we got a distorted dna and you're like what is this aberration it sounds like what you're saying is that they want to beam they want to seed other worlds with dna i'm not going to confirm nor deny, but it was DARPA that said they wanted to start putting bases on the moon and extracting resources from there. How many exoplanets have we found? Or Class M planets have we found?
Starting point is 00:46:16 Do they actually call them Class M planets? I don't know, but I would love to know how many we have found. So I think there's actually a number, because it's a big deal when we find these Earth-like planets. What do they call it? The Goldilocks zone? Mm-hmm. What if they're just like, we're going to beam the data of life onto these planets through laser-encoded whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Hit the tide pool. And then it hits it and encodes certain DNA and just makes it happen. Mm-hmm. Just gets life started on these planets. See, like, I don't get paid to stay within the bounds of, you know, I like theorizing beyond and then admitting I'm just a filmmaker, guys. Like I'm not actually an investigative journalist. I'm a filmmaker.
Starting point is 00:46:58 I love researching. So all the things that I'm saying, I mean, like somebody tomorrow could come and say, hey, I don't think you get the nuances of this PCR thing. And I'll say thank you for bringing that to my attention. That's why I bring it up on shows like this. And I'll mention, too, the problem – the reason I say we hit that wall where it's like we really don't know, we can speculate forever is the way conspiracy theories work when they go bad is that you've got to connect the dots image. It's 5,000 dots. And when you complete it, it's a
Starting point is 00:47:28 gorilla. But if you only see a tiny portion of it, you could connect the dots and you're like, it's a giraffe. And you're like, bro, zoom out. There's way more you're missing and you don't understand. And we probably bump into that all the time on this show, as does everybody else. They only know as much as they
Starting point is 00:47:44 can know. They're missing some information. So they connect dots. The dots connect what they're missing context. Totally, totally. And Carol Roth, excellent guest you just had on. And somebody, I think you both were mentioning like, what do you think about the Great Reset and Davos and everything? And she was like, I don't see a global connection to it. And I was biting my tongue thinking I have two words and one name for you, Carol, and that's Alison McDowell. And if I connect Carol to Alison McDowell's work, because here's the thing, I think Alison McDowell out of everyone, she's been actually putting maps together of where the funding channels come, what the programs are, what businesses, wrenchinthegears.com. I'm just going to say that
Starting point is 00:48:25 I would love somebody to actually break it down and show me how what she's saying is not completely on point. Because when you're saying connect the dots, I also look at it as like connect the dots, you can connect it in random ways and it won't make an image. And then you can say, well, I don't know if most of these dots even need to be here on this page. But once you see the completed image put together correctly, then you see the need for every one of those dots. And I'm just going to say those dots are big data, big pharma, all the bigs, right, connected. We don't see them connected until you see them connected. And then it's hard to unsee them.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I'm not saying she's right. And I'm not saying that I'm right. I'm just saying it's hard to unsee it once you've seen it that way. You ever see those puzzles where you get a grid? It's a graph. It's just like lines, boxes. It looks like a crossword puzzle, but it's blank, right? Right. And then you'll get another key that shows you.
Starting point is 00:49:21 It'll say A1, A2, A3, A4, then B1, B2, etc. And in each little box is a squiggly line. And now what you're supposed to do is, okay, so B4 is this line. I'll put it here. And then once you complete all of the instructions, it forms a real picture. So each little box, it's like you'll see a line with a dot. And you're like, I have no idea what that is. And if you were to draw 10 of them, you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:49:44 I'm looking at a bunch of weird lines and weird little grid boxes complete all of them and that's how you draw a bigger picture right so much like the connected dots thing you may look at a small portion and see a bunch of weird squiggly lines and then if you zoom out and you're able to incorporate all the rest of the sudoku puzzle as a better way and you might even when you zoom in see see what you think like you said a giraffe like you might see a completed image that isn't the real completed image that's intended. Or a small piece of it and it changes the context, right? Like if you saw a picture of Donald Trump on a surfboard with a massive wave, you'd be like, whoa, Donald Trump surfing on like this massive wave?
Starting point is 00:50:20 And then you zoom out and then there's Kim Jong-un painting a picture of Donald Trump surfing surfing on a massive wave and it changes the context of everything there's more of that picture can i just say something real quick though blackstone sounds like the name of a villain in a video game dude i brought this here because ben actually on his uh last video on ben joseph stewart on youtube talked about blackstone and the scrying mirror which was obsidian this is not real obsidian i thought it was when i bought it this is plastic plastic, I believe. But obsidian is a black stone that historically, I believe, they used as a scrying mechanism. Yeah, I'm not sure what the Aztecs used it for. I think it was Montezuma. But after Montezuma was plundered, a lot of those, let's say Montezuma's bling, was sent over to Europe. And the advisor to the Tudor dynasty, Sir John Dee, very into magic and alchemy, he used that scrying mirror and called it a speculum,
Starting point is 00:51:16 which is, if you look at the etymology, that is at least in part where we get speculation from, because you would speculate what you're seeing in the scrying mirror. And then you look at the financial markets and how the financial markets are bigger than the actual economy. It's money being produced from money. It's not from goods and services. It's speculation. It's pure confidence.
Starting point is 00:51:43 If people believe something has value someone all of a sudden has currency or can transfer it to currency totally yeah and and black stone came from black rock larry fink split off i think in the 80s um and split off from from black rock there's also uh gray stone i think there's – what's funny is like Larry – Are we talking like Lord of the Rings? It's strange. Touchstone. There's a lot of those names because even the son of Blackstone's CEO or Black Rock's CEO came up with a video production site that was also like Black something.
Starting point is 00:52:22 They're very much so like hitting on that kind of something about black stones black rocks not really sure let's do a movie yeah let's like let's like script out because i'm just imagining it's like it's like a rocky terrain and there's a guy and he's got a blaster and he's running and his shirt's ripped and he's like it's them it's blackstone and a helicopter lands and a bunch of guys jump out and they're like stop resisting and it's the sci-fi there There's a dome for some reason. And you're like, who are you?
Starting point is 00:52:46 We're Blackwater. We're the private military arm. It's the most black stone. Black stone is the most ominous. Like black rock, black stone. It's like dark periap. It's like,
Starting point is 00:52:57 but it's so on the nose that like the protagonists are like, we've made it. It's the fortress of Blackstone. It's a giant, you know, obsidian rock.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Yeah, yeah. Their base is in it. How do we get in? It's pure obsidian. Or there's like a comet made of obsidian or some other... That's probably nonsensical. Every 600 years, it comes around and orbits the planet. They sent advanced troops to Earth to conquer it through economic means.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Bro, I mean, look, people, they're buying up houses like crazy. And it's very difficult for people to buy when they get free money from the Fed. And then we hear that they, I mean, what else are they doing? Oh, Blackstone? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. Well, you know, for one, like right now, buying up the housing, it's affordable housing.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Here's what I think that's about. It's affordable housing and single family unit homes. And this also comes on the heels of, again, it's just something I heard from a very reputable source, Catherine Austin Fitz. A lot of people will just put her in a kooky category. But she was under George Bush Sr. working in HUD. And she left. She was just trying to follow the trail like where is these trillions of dollars of missing federal budget going? And she traced it all the way up to more than $21 trillion, which was more than the national debt. And she was like, this is a different civilization.
Starting point is 00:54:15 So anyway, she was saying that a lot of what she believes the riots of 2020 were, a lot of the destruction, what's being built up in its place is the smart grid i have a sneaky suspicion that maybe blackstone is taking these affordable housing units for poverty management as smart grid housing so we've talked about artificial intelligence on the show before and the misconceptions people have about it they seem to think that if the ai takes over like if we build an AI, we'll get Skynet and a bunch of Terminators will walk around and be like,
Starting point is 00:54:48 you know, or we'll get Ultron. I wish. In order to bring peace to the planet, humans must be wiped out because then we have peace. No, no, no. It's not going to be anything like that.
Starting point is 00:54:55 What's going to happen is you're going to, in an AI-managed future, you'll be sitting in your house, you'll be watching TV when all of a sudden your watch will go, and you'll look at it and it'll say, jump three times and you'll jump three times.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And then it'll go, you've earned credits. And you go, yay. And then it's like, you decide to go for a run and then you're running down the street and then it goes, turn left now to earn three credits. And you go, okay, you turn left. You have no idea why you're doing it or why you're being asked to do it. But when you zoom zoom way out there's something much bigger happening when you jump three times you knock loose like a clog in a pipe that was jamming up a line or something the ai knows it you don't know it you have no idea why you're doing what you're doing that's the ai future so when we talk about the smart grid and all that stuff where all of these things are happening where it's like they're buying up houses. And we here be chickens, my friends, sitting in the coop having no idea what's happening beyond these walls.
Starting point is 00:55:52 This is probably nothing. If it was really a problem that we were talking about this, calling them out for buying up these houses and shutting out the middle class, they wouldn't let us talk about it. No. Well, you do have a moment in time to talk about it before the the they can respond i found a couple years usually it seems like at least in 2006 and 7 you could call out the big deal and and it took them they were reeling they didn't understand the masses are awakening how do we handle this and it's like they're stunned for a short period of time but i also agree i don't think i think this is a front this is the this is what we're allowed to
Starting point is 00:56:23 see this is mainstream we're allowed to out ourselves as well i mean the thing is is like and this doesn't mean anything really but like uh my subscriber base on youtube was growing steadily until i came on this show and that's that's not an insult that's basically like i think that's when i got on a certain kind of radar because it hasn't moved since then it was growing steadily whatever i could speculate all day honey trap of youtube they're like we'll let tim pool grow so he can bring on these people and then we can pick them off and they can out themselves very soviet you know you you were saying about like the tokenization that's what allison mcdowell is actually saying a lot of this is moving towards is tokenizing. And so the economy might be changing in a way where you get a token.
Starting point is 00:57:12 You are incentivized to eat a certain way. You are incentivized to behave a certain way. And I mean like I won't get into where Pokemon Go came from, but it looks like a Pokemon Go future where you're tokenized for the right behavior and you're penalized for the not right behavior. And that's where the smart grid affordable housing comes in because you can be geo-fenced inside of your house where none of your technology actually works outside of it. That's what geo-fencing is already set up to do, run from satellites. Does this sound paranoid? Yes yes do i believe that we shouldn't talk about it because it seems paranoid no i think i think we should be able to trust that people have
Starting point is 00:57:52 a bs meter and that people can do their own research but like it's got to at least be mentioned right it seems a little weird right there was a very great man who once said just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not after you. Who is that? Kurt Cobain. Love it. My perspective really changes when I get chickens. I love talking about the chickens because they're hilarious. Watching chickens is funny, man. They have drama.
Starting point is 00:58:15 We introduced a new chicken and there's drama and the pecking order and they're staring each other down. But now the rooster's dating. Oh yeah, they're in love. They seem to like each other. We're going to do that. It's going to be the chicken city. They're in love. So they seem to like each other. We're going to do that. It's going to be the chicken city. We're building a new coop that's bigger and more space.
Starting point is 00:58:29 And we're building the space out so we can have the cameras hooked up right into the – it's a long thing. We're working on it. The avian show. It's like the Truman Show. But check this out. I started thinking about this because there are behaviors that I can't communicate to chickens to stop doing, like taking a dump in their water. So we had someone say, Tim, get a water nipple system. It's a bucket with little red spouts. And when they peck it, it moves a little plug, which makes water come out.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Solve the problem immediately. Instead of giving them water to drink, which they kept taking a dump in, I had to take it out and introduce something else. Now, they have no idea our conversation on this show happened. The chickens one day are sitting there taking a dump where they stand, and I come in with a bucket full of water, and they're like, okay. And they still take dumps all ridiculous places. They start climbing on top of the roofs taking dumps. So what do I do? I've got to put something in the way to stop them from doing it, right?
Starting point is 00:59:21 It's really obvious when you think about it. We're not going to tell the chickens what to do because they don't speak English. We're going to put, you know, those pigeon things, you know, like they don't want pigeons to land places. Yeah. They make, they change the environment. They change the environment. To get the outcome they want from our behaviors.
Starting point is 00:59:36 People make the mistake of thinking that, you know, they're like Bill Gates. Oh, we're going to challenge him as if he's a political rival. Bro, he's a billionaire. He looks at you like a chicken. You're a chicken. And his mentality, as he stated in his TED Talk, was if we do these things, we can change
Starting point is 00:59:52 the behavior of people and properly manage population. He's not looking at people like human beings who want to have families who have hopes and dreams. He's looking at you like some animal grazing around, taking a dump where you stand. And he's thinking thinking what do i do to change their behavior to create a better outcome that i think would be the better outcome change the system this is a lot of the ways i
Starting point is 01:00:12 think too because like i'm not into cult worship i don't like a guy getting up and be like i'll lead you there so i want to build a better system that allows us to flourish individually and i'm sure he's thinking the same thing but that can go horribly awry if you mismanage the system. The problem is every instance of authoritarianism has gone bad throughout history. And we know it because no one person, no committee is smart enough to manage billions of people and these massive economies. So what invariably happens is mass suffering. But there's a flip side to this. And this is what I asked Alex Jones.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I was like, you talk about the Davos group and all of these conspiracies. What if they're right, though? What if left unchecked, we will reach mass population and end up just constantly starved and fighting and diseased? We know what happens
Starting point is 01:01:02 when deer populations get out of control. We know what happens when hog populations get out of control. That's why people get in helicopters and fly around shooting hogs. They have a lot of fun doing it, but if there's too many hogs, they destroy all the plant life, they attack people, they get diseased, they starve, and they die. So proper management of the population is a good thing, which brings us to the dark, dark questions of our own humanity and whether or not we get treated the same way. I was thinking in the shower, I was thinking about weeds. Weed is just a plant that grows really fast
Starting point is 01:01:31 and basically takes over the garden and strangles out all the other things for nutrients. Are humans weeds? Have we done that to Earth? Kind of. Margaret Singer actually used the analogy of weeds. She said we have to weed the human garden, and that's exactly what Plant-Based is. That is so creepy.
Starting point is 01:01:44 The problem is if you had one chicken that was killing the other chickens, this happens. You have to remove it because it's a dumb animal that doesn't understand why what it's doing is bad and not helping. Humans arguing with other humans about why they think their ideology and population management is the right plan, it's the same thing. Okay, you know, Bill Gates, when he does his TED Talk, he is not some, like, you know, intergalactic Q-like figure, you know, the Star Trek Q, who's omnipotent and knows how to help and guide humanity. He's just another person who's limited by the same news and information we get.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Is that why these elites are into the occult? It's because they're trying to get information from other dimensions of intelligence so that they're no longer chicken consciousness? Maybe, but that's just more evidence to me that they're not right, that we don't know who has all the answers. And you mentioned you're talking about trust, like if a zombie apocalypse happened. Right. who has all the answers. And you mentioned, you're talking about trust, like if a zombie apocalypse happened. Why should I trust that Bill Gates,
Starting point is 01:02:48 a guy who sold software, understands what it takes to manage 8 billion people? Or if he wants 500 million, whatever the Georgia Guidestones, whatever he actually... If you actually take his TED Talk for what it is, he's saying,
Starting point is 01:02:59 we don't want to get to 9 billion people, so we need to implement a bunch of poverty control measures and then help everybody out. He does talk about making everyone's lives better, giving them better housing and stuff like that. I don't think, I genuinely think he believes this stuff when he says we want to improve the lives of everybody.
Starting point is 01:03:16 The problem is we have seen what happens when we run down that yellow brick road from utopians saying this is the way to get better life and better living and then it turns out it's a mass grave or a killing field or something like that why should i trust them it is pretty interesting i mean like the the proper management of the entire population i've been thinking about that because you know really it's such a philosophical rabbit hole you can go into. Like, what is proper? If you think you've figured it out, then what you would want to do is just lay out the plan and get people to comply no matter what.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And that really seems like the world today. Get people to comply. You know, like, you know, offer them burgers and fries. Get them to comply no matter what. Wait, they did that in New York. I know. I know. And so the thing is this might seem unrelated, but I have three kids at home.
Starting point is 01:04:15 They're young. My daughter, Anna Laura, might be watching. Hey. So I was talking with this guy, Charles Eisenstein. I was just on a trip with him. And we were just talking about when is it time to get a babysitter? And I said, my wife, she's so good with the kids that sometimes that she doesn't know when to allow herself a vacation and to go. And so Charles was like, maybe say to her, instead of saying like, babe, you just need to get it. You need to do that. That's more of the like, I'm telling you what I know is right for you to do.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Maybe in like incentivize her in a way by saying, I trust your intuition on when it's the right time. And you're calling her to step into her higher intelligence, her higher potential. And so to me, when I say like properly managing people, I don't know what to say about the population thing. I really don't. But what I do say is, how do people behave when they're told what to do? I know how my children behave, and I'm not going to make a one-to-one correlation between humanity and my children. But I am saying like, I think there may be more proper ways. So I do believe Bill Gates isn't probably sitting there with his fingers like, you know, I just want people to rot and die. No, I don't believe that. I believe that a lot of these people actually think like, man, this world is going to be so great. They'll come around. Even the people who don't like it, they'll come around. I kind of feel like maybe that's more true, but what is the more proper way
Starting point is 01:05:46 to get people to step into their potential rather than, oh, well, you know, why are you eating that way? Oh, I was told to eat this way. Well, why are you exercising right? And I was told, you know, why do you live here? I was told. That's everything though. You know, we, we, our whole worlds are based off of information we've collected that we trust. And once you get to a certain age and your brain sort of solidifies and fully develops, you assert those things as true to you. And when people challenge those, you have a nervous breakdown. This is why people get really angry. There's a lot of people who aren't into politics, and I'm sure many people who are listening have experienced this. You'll be talking to someone calmly and rationally, and you'll say, look, Joe Biden fumbled and bumbled and then compared the Tuskegee Airmen to people with syphilis. They'll start getting really angry because what you're doing is their brain has
Starting point is 01:06:35 locked in place. These are the ideas I know to be true. Why do I know them to be true? Because I have survived this long. And if I hold these things throughout my life to be true, my survival rate is better than if I don't. So when you go in and start picking apart their worldview, you are telling them what they're doing is wrong and dangerous and they have to defend themselves from that. They have survived this long. They will not let you tear those ideas apart. So there's an emotional mechanism. When people get angry, they don't process information the same way. So people just go to an emotional state. They get mad. They there's an emotional mechanism. When people get angry, they don't process information the same way. So people just go to an emotional state.
Starting point is 01:07:08 They get mad. They won't talk to you. They shut down. A different part of the brain. It's more ancient. And what you're mentioning right there, it takes me back to all those beautiful on the African safari images
Starting point is 01:07:19 where let's say a couple lions are hunting down one of the smaller, whatever. Gazelles? Something like that. Those bigger, maybe the water buffalo that run in big herds. So they're going after one of the little ones. And they feel safer in the pack. Even though there's three lions and literally, let's say, 150 of these huge, massive beasts,
Starting point is 01:07:47 but they will let one of their young die because the rest of them are like, we can lose one, we're safer in the numbers. Most people that I know, they're not seeking truth. That's why they have their brain seizing up is because they're seeking safety. They're not seeking truth. It makes me think how you were saying about your wife and how to inspire her to be able to handle the kids. It's like creating a leader as opposed to telling her what to do They're not seeking truth. everyone's going to die. So you have one leader, everyone else follows. And sociologically, I think that's part of why psychedelics are illegal, because it makes you think for yourself
Starting point is 01:08:27 and make decisions for yourself outside of external influence for the most part, more so than not. It can in the right setting, but I see where you're going with that. But I mean, it can also be used by the CIA in different ways. Here's interesting. Here's a thought. It was sprayed over France and people were hospitalized in it. And it wasn't even seen that LSD was sprayed over France. People thought that it was in the drinking water or they were dying or something like that.
Starting point is 01:08:51 There's a couple ideas in terms of global control I want to mention. If there really is a very powerful dominant group and YouTube is playing ball with them, and it seems like to a certain degree YouTube is at least following some kind of establishment narrative, if the narrative is actually controlled then you have to assume that the success of this channel and timcast.com is allowed to happen or i think the simple solution is there's probably powerful elites with pop with interests they align with other powerful interests they use their weight to get what they want at a disproportionate level than most people, so birds of a feather flock together. But we're still free, and we're still challenging
Starting point is 01:09:30 the system. There's still a resistance. And these ideals of, say, like the Davos group and the Great Reset or groups like Blackstone, it may just be a flash in the pan. It may be that in this generation, some very wealthy people have made some moves because wealthy people make massive waves and they may not succeed. And we move on and people-
Starting point is 01:09:50 I think it's more natural order like the pharaohs of Egypt. I mean, this goes way back to the power control structure. And then they form corporations so that they don't have to take personal responsibility for the control. And now they can reap the benefits without suffering the bankruptcy. That's my personal feeling is that it's always been like this oh yeah you know i mean like so that's been my my feeling as well is that this is a lot older than just what we're hearing about right now um we probably shouldn't go into that right now but i i do feel i do feel like it's obvious what you're saying like the future is unwritten and like we we still do have freedoms like i know we i feel it i i sense it when i go out to the store yes there's something going on in the world right now but like it it's
Starting point is 01:10:39 not where most people think we are but i mean you look at what's going on in Australia right now, it's looking pretty grim. But do you have freedoms? The point is, if you are really to believe that these powerful, wealthy interests, look, we know they exist. I'm not saying there's a secret cabal
Starting point is 01:10:58 of people wearing red velvet robes meeting underground somewhere and chanting to each other or going to some grove and worshipping a giant owl statue. Yeah, like a bohemian grove or something. Yeah, I'm not saying anything like that. I've never been invited to that party. I went to Burning Man.
Starting point is 01:11:13 They're rich people. Rich people have conferences together. They have meetings together. They're friends with each other. Naturally, one guy from one industry is going to be like, here's my plan. The other guy says, oh, that works for me. So these things exist. If we're going to operate under the assumption that they did have total control, like they could go to YouTube and say, shut these channels down, then is it really freedom when they're just like, don't ban that Tim Pool guy. Let him keep doing his thing. It's good.
Starting point is 01:11:37 You know what he did, what I really like? He had some guy on, this Ben Stewart guy who's had a bunch of crazy stuff. And then because we were able to identify him, we nuked his channel. You see what I mean? Yeah, I see what you're saying with the freedoms thing. And freedom is not to get too philosophical here, but it depends on whether you're talking about freedoms that are socially agreed upon or the freedom I claim for myself and I just behave upon. And for the most part, it all seems like it's it's it's being trampled on but that also seems like history to me i i can see that we are in many ways so much better off today than any
Starting point is 01:12:13 other time in history like i know a lot of people that are like i would love to just live you know go back to nature and i think that's such a romantic idea until you realize what mosquitoes are like when you live in nature. And what you got to wipe your butt with. And what the water is like. You got to worry about amoebas and stuff. You're boiling everything. We love our conveniences. And this is where I'm at is I think we're close to where we want to be.
Starting point is 01:12:41 There's a lot of hiccups. And I think there's always been this grab for power, and we've never been so close to globalism. We've never been so close to globalism, unless you take a look at what Graham Hancock and people are saying about the ancient, ancient past. Atlantis. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:57 But I think now it's even more. We're going through stuff today that is like really 10, 15 years ago, like only a fraction of the population could even like wrap their heads around. So like I think we're close. I mean like we all have phones. I remember saying I'm never getting a cell phone. And guess how long it took me to actually get a cell phone. Two years? Not even.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Not even. I was in the band and I needed to keep in contact with them. And then I was like, I don't ever need to get a smartphone. I'm going to keep this Nokia. I'm going to keep this flip phone. And it just happened. Angry Birds came out, man. And you watched your friend play Angry Birds, and you're like, dude.
Starting point is 01:13:36 How was I going to know where the Pokemon were going without my smartphone? Final Fantasy on my cell phone. And put it on double speed, so I beat the game twice as fast. Hey, whenever somebody asks me a question and I don't know it, I pray to Google. Final Fantasy on my cell phone and put it on double speed. So I beat the game in twice as fast. Hey, whenever somebody asks me a question and I don't know it, I pray to Google and divinely I get that answer. All you got to do is ask. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:52 You ever see that Star Trek episode where they go to this planet where they're like the people are really dumb, don't know how to do anything because their ancestors built this supercomputer that did like took care of their lives for them. And so then I may be forgetting the episode, but basically what happens is they can't have kids anymore. Something's happening. So they try and kidnap kids from the enterprise. But basically it's like – what was brilliant about The Next Generation is it showed you the philosophical consequences of certain ideologies, technological advancements, and systems of government. In this instance, you had people who were managed by a computer within several generations,
Starting point is 01:14:27 had no idea how to do anything, and just became completely helpless. We're getting there as well. I know. We definitely are. There's a story I love. I read a long time ago about a family on a beach when a black wolf walked up on the beach, and the family panicked and ran into the water and climbed on a rock, you know, 15 or 20 feet out. And the wolf just paced back and forth staring at him while the dad, the wife, and the two kids were like huddled together crying and terrified.
Starting point is 01:14:55 And I think about that story and I'm like, maybe it's romanticizing the past. But I'd imagine if this was hundreds of years ago, the dad would have been wearing thick leathers and had a sword on him. And he would have pulled out a sword and said, family, get back. And then he would have like prepared or would have had a spear or a shield or something. Now we walk around in like thin cotton shirts. We're not prepared for fighting at all.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Asking where the police are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, I totally agree. And you know, I think history, I also look at it archetypally. Like what is timeless? Like, as things advance, like technology, we are giving up, we're outsourcing a lot of our thinking.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Like, you know, people are saying, like, we don't even know how to do math in our heads. We got calculators. You know what? I'm okay with that. I was never that into math. Maybe some people want to know math, and guess what? The existence of a calculator doesn't mean you can't learn math. Maybe some people want to know math and guess what? That the, the existence of a calculator doesn't mean you can't learn math. So there's certain things I'm a, I'm happy to give up
Starting point is 01:15:52 for the conveniences of them because I, at least I've felt where my center is and where I want my time and attention to go. So I'm, I'm down without sourcing. Like, I don't, like, you know, GPS is causing us to forget how to navigate. Perhaps, perhaps. But I don't feel like I've lost how to navigate just because of GPS. But I'll tell you what it has done. I hopped in my car this morning thinking, oh, man, I might be late for this flight to get here. And I just threw on my GPS. It got me straight there.
Starting point is 01:16:24 It told me right when I would get there. It told me exactly how to get into and i just threw on my gps it got me straight there told me right when i would get there it told me exactly how to get into the uh the parking garage like it makes some things easier it's not just the world is getting worse and we're becoming super dumb you have agency let's go back to the chickens yes so the chickens are taking a dump in all their water and people on this show say tim buy the nipple water thing and so i go on amazon and i order it i have no idea what's happening after that the signal gets sent to a warehouse or something some guy starts pulling something out of a box the chickens have no idea what's going on one day it just shows up and their life has changed and their water is now clean and they probably don't even understand what clean water means to be completely honest
Starting point is 01:17:01 the reason i bring this up again is imagine this you mentioned we're forgetting how to do things oh the calculator you know it's we forgot how to do math and the gps we forgot how to navigate we may be the chicken sitting there just clueless and there may be i don't know maybe there's some like rich billionaire who's planning on integrating computers into our brains with something he would call what would be a good name for something like a link to a link to your neurons, like a neural link. Yeah, maybe there's a billionaire. Chicken chip. Chicken chip. Maybe while we're sitting here being like, look what this technology is doing.
Starting point is 01:17:31 It's removing our ability to do these things. Maybe Elon Musk is like that chicken water thing already on its way to solve some problem. That we may be concerned about how the technology is affecting us. And then Neuralink happens. And you just said it. How long did it take you to get the cell phone? Yeah, when Neuralink comes out and then everyone just gets it. And they're going to be like, yo, just link me the information for the show. And you're like, oh, I don't got link.
Starting point is 01:17:57 It's like, bro, let me just link Ian real quick and I'll have him tell you. And then you're like, I'll get a link. Hold on, I'll triangulate. And we're all together. And then there was actually an Outer Limits about this where there were Wi-Fi nodes everywhere. And people had, it was called the stream, where they had instant access to the network. So they just knew. If they needed to know something, they just would think it and then it would be transmitted to them.
Starting point is 01:18:18 So imagine neural link becomes ubiquitous. And you're like, I'm not getting that neural link thing. And then you're trying to go to the movies. And your friends are like, dude, I'm going to drive don't want i want you getting lost with your stupid gps like that's ridiculous i i just know where to go right and then you go okay fine dude whatever and then you go to like you know neural link mobile and they're like it's a quick and painless procedure we just you know click it right into the back of your neck and then boom you're linked up the other guy be like bro i already got the the upgrade i already saw the movie you don't even i see it before it even comes out dude could you imagine like i've seen every movie you guys want to see
Starting point is 01:18:51 fast fast and the furious 15 yeah that was good you're out for like six seconds because like time is not time is kind of relative when vin diesel he's like in the walker and then he like throws it and fights the guy and the guy's got a cane. Yeah. Well, I wonder what people because so Terrell McSweeney, I think it was she worked under Obama and Biden. I think it's Terrell McSweeney. It was like in 2017, she was talking about the Internet of Bodies and brain machine interfaces. And she was saying, well, the first thing we really need to figure out is innovation is way ahead of regulation.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And what that means is what happens if you have, like, your Mojo vision, which gives you a heads-up display in your eye, it's implanted in your eye, and it goes defunct? Who takes it out? What if that company folds? Who is liable to take that technology out? So there's a bunch of that kind of stuff. Plus, with the brain-machine interfaces, if you can, because they were already talking about,
Starting point is 01:19:50 what about people with tendencies? I wonder if I can even mention that word. But like bad, bad tendencies. Can you suppress their tendencies? Do you have the right to suppress their tendencies? Do you have the right to suppress their tendencies? Do you have the right to introduce different memories? You know, and these are things that literally this woman was talking about in front of a board saying we need to figure out how to regulate it because guess what? It's already on
Starting point is 01:20:16 its way. So like my thoughts behind that are, you know, like it's very interesting when we're talking about technology. i think we talked about this last time because there was this book um called what technology wants and this guy was saying it's very likely that no matter how many times you rewind history and play it again we'll always come up with technology evolution will always produce humans and humans will always produce technology especially at a certain population density so the interesting thing is is like and i'm not going to get spiritual or religious here, but for people who believe that we are all connected
Starting point is 01:20:50 in some way, shape, or form, where does God not exist? Like technology. We call it blasphemous because we can't wrap our heads around the fact that this could be evolutionary. This could be the, you know, and I'm not saying where we're at and tech, I'm going to get so many people telling me like,
Starting point is 01:21:10 like bro 5g and blah, blah, blah. I'm saying like, no, where technology is at today is super rudimentary. I wouldn't implant anything in my head. I can't foresee that mainly because the trust thing, I don't trust the, the, the reception, the the reception, the vibrations, the frequencies that it uses. I don't trust who would be on the other side of it. There's some trust issues I'd need to get over. But the thing is, is like at the end of the day, if it were benevolent, if it were, let's just say hypothetically, would you allow a technology that, let's say, could even be therapeutic to you, be not even implanted in you? Because some people are saying, bro, you're not going to need to implant it.
Starting point is 01:21:53 There are technologies that can be a couple inches away from your skull and still get the same neuronal agonist. Transmit? It'll transmit and light up the right parts of the brain. My words are failing. I like agonist. Transmit? It'll transmit and light up the right parts of the brain. My words are failing. I like agonist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the eye evolve on Earth like four different times independently?
Starting point is 01:22:14 Six. Six. I think it was six different times in the Cambrian era or something like that. Independently. Independently. And that's just one example. In this book, they were talking about how you would still get, no matter how many times, even on a different planet, it would make sense that you would have symmetrical beings where the DNA doesn't need to be so robust that just copy most of the left side to the right side. DNA doesn't have to be super jacked to be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:22:41 On several different continents um evolving separately there were similar things bipedal fingered you know um creatures where their heads are you know erect six five six feet above the ground it makes sense to have that right so this is really interesting when you get into religion and simulation theory which which I feel like the simplest form of simulation theory is very rudimentary religion in general. The idea of a more advanced or powerful entity or whatever creating everything. But when you talk about technology as part of evolution, I've long thought about that like it's inevitable. And it may literally just be that uh let me let me slow down life evolved through this this competition this back and forth evolution isn't linear right
Starting point is 01:23:32 gazelle evolved to run faster because lions are fast and eat them and the lions have to be faster and then eventually get different cats all of these things happen until eventually something emerges out of this adaptation that bypasses the evolutionary process. Intelligence. An instant knowledge-based adaptation. Before adaptation required generations of life to emerge. You had to have a baby. The baby was slightly different.
Starting point is 01:23:58 A bunch of flies would get too hot and die, but the ones that survived could survive hotter temperatures. Well, then along came humans with the ability to instantly manipulate their own environments. With this, humans have basically told evolution, you're done. Because what happens when the lion shows up? The humans invent the spear and the lion can't get close. Eventually, humans invent guns and then they own everything. Too hot, humans invent air conditioning and now they survive longer in the summer. Too cold, they invent heaters. Now they survive longer in the winter. The technology was the next level of evolution
Starting point is 01:24:31 where a mind evolved to understand and manipulate the environment with the right appendages for fine tuning, fingers, fingernails, all that stuff. And now the next step is gonna be we create artificial intelligence in life. And perhaps I was reading this. I can't remember who wrote this. There's some scientists who said their prediction for life is that humans will create artificial intelligence that self
Starting point is 01:24:54 replicates. And near the heat death of the universe, there will be supercomputers flowing around for billions of years, collecting loose electrons. And after hundreds upon hundreds of billions of years, connect them and replicate hundreds upon hundreds of billions of years connect them and replicate and keep going yeah what's interesting is you actually mentioned something that's in the book what technology wants and it's how how evolution happens in spurts and fits and stuff like that but where the similar things have evolved on different continents, there's sometimes like something will jump ahead. But there seems to be a sequence in evolution. And some things will jump ahead, but not far ahead in evolution.
Starting point is 01:25:35 But once you get to humans, the interesting thing you mentioned about how we change our environment, you guys know with plants, like the phenotype is what the environment does to the genes, what the environment pulls from the genes. So when we change our environment, we are automatically changing the phenotypic expression of our genes, which we know turns epigenetic. We know we pass that down. And the only difference is with technology. Technology can radically jump farther. It doesn't have to follow the same sequence of slow evolution. You have to go through this step to get to that step to get to that step.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Technology can make leaps and bounds, different strides. Discoveries. Yeah. The discovery of the charged electromagnetic spectrum created a wave of new technologies. The discovery of petroleum. Within what decades, we made petrochemicals and plastics and just changed everything. Plastics really, really were revolutionary.
Starting point is 01:26:31 All of a sudden, we could make this moldable, hard substance that allowed us to make so much more than we normally could. Did you see what George Carlin said about plastic? No, what did he say? What if the only reason why the Earth even created humans was to get plastic? Didn't want the humans wanted plastic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Something had to make it something, you know, and then, and here's our, our demise and what's going to be left over all that plastic in the Mariana trench. And you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:56 it trips me out is like, we, we have decoy ducks, you know, we like you put a little wooden duck in the pond and the ducks come up to it and they're like, what up girl? But they're talking to a wooden block.
Starting point is 01:27:05 What if like aliens have decoy humans and we can't tell them apart? What if, you know, I mentioned the chickens thing because I think it's a really good analogy. Chickens, they know me sort of. I go in there and I do stuff and they're like confused and scared and always staring at me. But they have no concept of cars or anything like this. To them, it doesn't exist as far as they're concerned. It's just weird nonsense. We see a bunch of weird nonsense all the time we talk about the mysteries and the paranormal imagine this we're we're sitting here going like dude i had a friend and like he
Starting point is 01:27:35 wants to like turn the corner and there was a large shadow figure whoa and that's the same as the chicken being like a giant thing with like these things that were around were like growling at me and it was like the craziest thing it was this giant rock with with growling you know that's like us like we have no idea we're talking about and from we know the aliens are looking at us like dumb chickens going like giant giant rock screams ah yeah yeah it was funny is how much we can all witness the same thing but if you're not ready to see what you're seeing, your mind will fill in the blanks differently than the person right next to you. You know that legend of when Christopher Columbus was coming to the Bahamas or the Korean, the natives couldn't see the boats. You ever hear that?
Starting point is 01:28:18 So for those that aren't familiar, have you heard this? Yeah, I've heard this. So because their brains had no concept of large vessels, they would look off on the horizon and completely – it was there. Like they could physically see it, but their brains didn't process it. They ignored the information. And it wasn't until – this is how the legend goes. One of the elders noticed the wave patterns changing, looked up at where the wave pattern was coming from and said, there's something weird there. And then told people, look at the weird thing. And they're like, what? It's like it's weird thing. And they're like, what, what?
Starting point is 01:28:46 It's like, it's right there. And they're like, oh, there is a weird thing there. So I remember hearing about that story. And so I always, whenever I'm driving on road trips, in one instance, I'm with my friend and it's a field. We're like driving across a great plane and there's a big cell phone tower, massive gray tower with blinking lights and the crazy antennas. And I said, look, what do you see? What's right there? And my friend's like, what are you pointing at? I'm like, what do you see right ahead of us? We're coming up on it. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:29:13 there's nothing there. What are you talking about? And I'm like, dude, people never think about cell phone towers. They don't know what they are. It's not relevant to them. It's out of sight, out of mind. So I was like, there is a tower right there. They're like, what are you talking about? I'm like, big gray tower, blinking lights. And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't see it at all? Because they're like, I don't know what I'm looking for. I don't know what you're talking about. This is part of what psychedelics
Starting point is 01:29:35 just totally changed me because when I would take psilocybin, every outline of each piece of thing I would look at and see, I would notice all the things that i'm familiar like familiarity bias i that i gloss over that i'm desensitized to in natural order but with these these medicines or whatever you want to put these chemicals i'm like very observant of of the pieces and angles and shapes of my surroundings they they say that
Starting point is 01:30:00 when the scientists like they put a bunch of scientists in a room and they were micro dosing on lsd or whatever that they were able to see the things they were normally overlooking. So it's like the idea, I guess, was because our brains are rooted in this routine and this pattern and we have expectations, it's hard for us to see things that don't matter to us. I think it's more of a case of survival because Jordan Peterson talks about this a little bit. He's like, if you notice everything that's going on around you all the time, it's incredibly distracting and you're going to lose your ability to determine where there's possibly danger coming from. Yeah, there's a filter. Was it Aldous Huxley who said it was the doors of perception? It blows the doors of perception wide open. Our nervous system would be on edge all the time if we noticed everything.
Starting point is 01:30:49 We have the raffine nuclei in the back of the brain, and they light up when we detect novelty, something new. And a lot of the times, most of the times, it's if you're ready to see something. And sometimes not. We know that. Sometimes ready to see something, and sometimes not. We know that. Sometimes we do see something that we're not ready for. But the interesting thing with psychedelics is, I think, more the auditory and the things that aren't just visual. We always talk about what we see, but you ever listen to music on a psychedelic or you feel like one hair touching your face and it amplifies what you're experiencing. And so like a lot of what I love about the more traditional ways of doing it is they have a set and setting that empirically for thousands and thousands of years, they have it set up in this way. And it might seem really silly and dumb to blow tobacco smoke over somebody's head
Starting point is 01:31:48 and, you know, tap them on the head over and over again with a feather or something along those lines while singing a song. But you know what? Like in those ceremonies, those are the most profound moments. It's not like, you know, it's not, you know, just these wild kaleidoscopic things that you see. It's usually the insights you glean about yourself and how the music got you there, how the smell of the tobacco got you there. So it's all contextual as well. And that's why I said when you were saying like these psychedelics can open you up to a new world, I think there's something about the pharmaceuticalization of psychedelics that they're even saying, can we take out the psychedelic experience but still get the effects of Iboga?
Starting point is 01:32:35 Like how Iboga or Ibogaine is getting people off of opioid addictions and stuff like that. Can we just take out the psychedelic? Because people, that scares too many people. And they're all the major, like Dennis McKic? Because people, that scares too many people. And all the major, like Dennis McKenna is saying, these are ordeal medicines. They heal people by what they make you face on the inside. We've got to go to Super Chats.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Let's do it. But for completely no reason, I just want to mention two paranormal experiences that I've had in my life just because it's fun. Let's do it. The first was, these both happened when I was relatively relatively young when i was probably like 13 or 14 and i remember one day i woke up in my bed and there were there were like black silhouette figures walking past my door and it was like three in the morning and i remember seeing that and getting freaked out it was like shadow people people who experience sleep paralysis explain you know similar things i've had that and then i just decided to lay back
Starting point is 01:33:28 and like sleep on my side and keep my eyes closed and just go back to sleep and ignore it when it felt like one of these figures walked up and stood next to my bed and was just standing there and i could hear like the footsteps and feel like the presence like like you could just you just know and i'm just sitting there like my eyes closed i'm like i'm gonna ignore this probably a really dumb thing to do because like imagine if someone broke into my house and i'm like i'm gonna pretend like it's not happening so i don't know maybe that's all it was maybe someone broke in my house in the middle of the night and that's something something simple but this the other experience i had when i was about the same age i was laying in my bed and i woke up around two or three in the morning
Starting point is 01:34:03 clearly woke up and i was i sleep on my side and i rolled over on my bed, and I woke up around 2 or 3 in the morning, clearly woke up. And I sleep on my side, and I rolled over on my left side. And on the floor, I saw what looks like a very, very intense reflection of water. So you ever see like a pool, and then when light hits it, there's like the weird waves in the ceiling? Imagine that. Imagine it like two feet by two feet, but intensely bright. It was this like pulsating, and that sent shivers down my spine. I panicked, rolled over to the other side, and just like started sweating profusely.
Starting point is 01:34:34 I'm going back to bed. I'm going back to bed. I don't know what that is. I don't know what I'm looking at. I don't want to get up. I'm scared. Yeah. Creepy.
Starting point is 01:34:41 I don't know what it was. Because when you wait, I saw infrared light one time when I woke up. I had my phone like right here, and I i woke up and i saw the light going in it looked like it was going into the phone and i felt my brain like twist and the light went in and it was gone i didn't see it and i was like oh i wish i could still like your mind's in another place when you're sleeping let's jump to super just definitely do that i just want to say your brain produces drugs dmt and 5meo dmt dopamine cannabinoids i mean pcp analog your brain's got a lot of drugs i mean we're all holding it's internally in our brains all right we're gonna go super chance if you haven't already smash the like button and go to timcast.com become a member because we are going to have a very dark and serious bonus segment coming up.
Starting point is 01:35:27 With a little music. With a little music. That's right. To lighten the mood before we get into the scary series. Yes. Because you may have noticed that the episode is like, wait, wait, we'll save that one. And you might know where we're going to go. But YouTube would nuke us in two seconds.
Starting point is 01:35:38 So we'll keep this one for the members. And let's read some of these super chats. Don't forget. Smash that like button. Get your super chats in while you can. Name surname says, if each of you could have the powers of any video game character,
Starting point is 01:35:49 who would it be? I want to be Super Hot Guy. Super Hot Guy. Video game character, superpowers. Man, I mean, I feel like you mentioned Zelda, and I know Zelda wasn't the guy, but I think I would choose Zelda. Oh, Link?
Starting point is 01:36:05 Zelda's got powers. That's who I'd be. Yeah. What's her power? I'd be Zelda. Zelda's the princess. Well like in Smash Brothers Are you telling me I can't be a princess? Okay hey hands off. You're Zelda. Zelda she turns into Sheik. It's like her alter ego and she can throw needles and then she has like
Starting point is 01:36:22 the little grappling hook and the like the string bombs and stuff and Zelda herself can like teleport i think i would pick i'm in ash i'm total zelda i picked nash from uh lunar the silver star he's a lightning mage although i do like healing powers but i think i have commanding lightning it's pretty exciting oh yeah uh oh i don't really play video games. Pac-Man, right? Yeah, I'll be Miss Pac-Man. Ghosts. I want to run from ghosts and eat dots. I would eat berries, yeah. I'd say Lode Runner. I can dissolve bricks in front of me and to my left or right, but not below me
Starting point is 01:36:55 to trap creatures that are chasing me, which they then climb out of the hole. I'm kidding. I have no idea. That's a great question. Thank you for that one. Crash Bandicoot. You can spin really fast and break bricks or something. No, no, Mario. I don't know that's a great question thank you for that Crash Bandicoot you can spin really fast and break bricks or something no no Mario I gotta admit
Starting point is 01:37:09 Mario's a good power Yoshi I'd be Yoshi Yoshi Mario can can jump really high what do they say that
Starting point is 01:37:15 eats mushrooms he can jump 21 feet when you when you take the size of Mario on Nintendo and then calculate how high he jumps
Starting point is 01:37:23 they like mapped it out and said it's about 21 feet if Mario is the average height. They said if he was like 5'6 or something. Interesting. He's jumping like 21 feet, and he can punch bricks, and they explode. It's true. He shatters bricks with a fist, throws fire, and then he puts on that cat suit and plays around like a furry. I like his wardrobe.
Starting point is 01:37:41 He's pretty cool. His wardrobe's awesome. He has cool friends, too. I like him. All right. Jimmy Quinto says, who's ready for this upcoming market crash in July? I mean, I'm as ready as I can be. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:37:52 How do you feel about that, Ben? Man, you know what? I was reading something right before coming here, wondering whether it's true or not. It was a supposedly declassified document about a lockdown coming in the UK with talking about specific years on what shortages are coming in what years. I won't go any deeper than that. But, yeah, I mean, buy food, learn how to grow food, maybe learn how to treat water and get to know your neighbors. Do a couple of pushups. Good advice. There you go.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Splitting Waves says dinosaur fossils are creatures buried in Noah's flood. God declared he would never again destroy the world with water. Next time it will be fire. Enter the ark through the door that is Jesus Christ. I don't know about all that. Aren't there aliens under Denver International Airport, I heard? That is the word on the street.
Starting point is 01:38:43 That's a really old conspiracy theory. You know, it's fun and silly. I lived in Boulder and I went to DIA. I've never seen a dinosaur, but there's some weird stuff there. Those murals are pretty interesting. Like gigantic caverns under the surface of Earth. We've only been like eight miles deep. And apparently like these ancient aquifers that are now emptied,
Starting point is 01:39:03 like could have microbial life, mushed spore life. It could have animal life. I mean, we really don't know. Yes, true. The Mad Machina says Biden is Jar Jar Binks. Convincing the Republic
Starting point is 01:39:14 to cede power to the government by being hapless. Harris is Anakin. Pelosi is probably the emperor. Yeah. Schumer. Clef the Misfit says let's finally get this
Starting point is 01:39:24 Star Wars analogy correct. Biden is Palpatine and Kamala is Darth Vader. Trump was Mace Windu, but has been defeated and Order 66 has been ordered. Luke Skywalker is Ron DeSantis. Actually, that is a better analogy. Order 66, they're like, you know, the war on terror is coming home.
Starting point is 01:39:42 They're going to go after the militias and all that. So this guy's saying, I assume it's a guy, I'm sorry, that Kamala is going to bring balance to the force. Oh, I don't think so. Yeah, but it wasn't in a good way. Like, bringing balance to the force meant killing all the Jedi. This is true. So there were, like, two left, I guess. Very disturbing.
Starting point is 01:40:02 All right. Although, you know what one of the problems is? They say bring balance to the force because they're, like, two. So the idea is, like, aha, I guess. Very disturbing. Alright. Although, you know what one of the problems is? They say bring balance to the force because they're like two... So the idea is like, aha, there were two Sith so then all the Jedi are wiped out except for like Obi-Wan and Yoda, I guess. Except now we learn in the extended universe like Ahsoka... Well, not even extended. It's like
Starting point is 01:40:15 canon. Ahsoka survived. Oh, Disney upsetting the balance? How odd. Yeah, I'm glad to that. Jerks. Alright, Jonathan Bagus says, says hey tim i sent you a pitch earlier but it turned into a resume so here's the pitch a weekly dnd game that explores dynamic political cultural and socioeconomic environments vibrant enough to elicit questions and conversations from your politically savvy audience done we will hire the game master. Immediately send your resumes to jobs at
Starting point is 01:40:45 timcast.com. Here's the idea. You have one week to come up with a simple to play scenario. Predetermined characters. Maybe do like four, maybe five characters. You'll give people their character sheets. We need a game master who knows politics, who's a big fan of Stargate,
Starting point is 01:41:01 Star Trek, and people mentioned Farscape. What are some other good... I've never seen it. Sci-fi, Firefly, obviously Star Wars. Firefly is great, yeah. People who understand questions around philosophy, technology, quantum physics, ideology. Battlestar Galactica.
Starting point is 01:41:16 Battlestar Galactica. Because then what we do is we have this game master create scenarios, and then you create characters with certain strengths and weaknesses, have them play out the scenario and see how it turns out. I like that.
Starting point is 01:41:26 I would love to play... Is this a drinking game? Yes. That is definitely optional. It's got to be fun and silly and hilarious. I like it. Where someone's like the emperor and they're like, I'm executing the peasants.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Give me the drink. I'm drinking. Roll a fortitude save and roll initiative. It's like natural 20 and everyone's been wiped out. Game's over and i would love to use uh dnd 3.5 but i'm open to 5.0 because it's easier it's easier to play it's very very smooth but i love 3.5 it's a little more complicated i you think like in a week someone could create a different scenario every week that would be fun yeah it's already in their
Starting point is 01:41:59 good writer yeah and it would explore it would okay, in this scenario, you're on the Death Star. And you're a janitor. And the rebels are coming to blow it up. What do you do? Do you save the Death Star? Because there's millions of janitors. There's like Planescape, I think, was a D&D game where there's this realm where there's all these portals that take you to other dimensions of possibility. So you could, every episode could be through another portal
Starting point is 01:42:28 and then we could be in another realm. We could be in different bodies. Imagine the conversation that would come up around this. I think that's pretty, there need to be some like, you know, okay, too much talking, not enough playing, but... I had an idea for a video game and I'll just give it away for free because it's been a decade.
Starting point is 01:42:43 But the idea was, it's an open world game like gta or fall or whatever and you play the game normally monday through friday collecting items trying to survive it's an it's like a normal world like gta you can get arrested but on friday nights at 7 p.m an apocalypse happens and it's a random apocalypse every week so what would happen is you would develop, say, 13 scenarios. Then once the game is ready to launch, every Friday you would do a different scenario, and then there would be a repeat. So it would be, like, randomized. So imagine this. You're playing a game. You collect a bunch of bottles of water and food, and you get some guns.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Then Friday happens, and you're, like, 7 p.m. Everyone's sitting there playing the game, counting down, and it's, like, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. The moon explodes. And then tsunamis happen. Firestorm. So here's the goal of the game. Next week, you're what you're counting down, and all of a sudden, boom. Zombies start coming out from the alleyways.
Starting point is 01:43:36 The idea is catching people off guard, and then after the scenario ends on Sunday, who survived the weekend? Because you die, you're out for the weekend. And then you come back on Monday and you start fresh. And then what we do is we analyze the data and say, when the zombies attacked, 37.3% of people ran out with no weapons, started punching zombies, and most of them died. 12.3% hid in the basement for the whole weekend. Congratulations, you
Starting point is 01:44:00 survived and you barely played the game. You can track that kind of stuff. There's also scenarios you can do where you're counting down to 7 p.m. and all of a sudden, boom, your guy, it says you've been enlisted. You are now a member of the military. A revolution is breaking out. Half the people are chosen to be revolutionaries. Half the people are chosen to be the military. You can look at your friend sitting right next to you.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yep, yep. And then it's like, what do you do? And then people would have no idea what's to come. And then we would just show people the stats of like how people responded to this apocalypse. It's interesting because you'll get into all the different kinds of strategies because most people think like, oh man, a big event is coming. Let's prepare this way. And this will really tease out some of the nuances of what certain kinds of preparation will actually be good and which ones may not. Because imagine this, imagine like you have no idea what's going to happen. And then
Starting point is 01:44:49 a tsunami hits and everybody who was just on the lower floors is just wiped out. 90% of people are wiped out without even realizing it. And they're like, dude, and then they go in spectator mode and they're watching, like they're watching streams of people or they're watching other people. And there was a dude who just decided to climb on top of a building and he was chilling and now he's on top of the building like what do we do now but then let's say someone climbs the top of the building and then a massive storm hits and then he gets blown away like you have no idea what's going to happen we should call the game preparation h preparation h yeah that's right no all right the comedian says snowden called it the Lassie effect,
Starting point is 01:45:26 where politicians trying to tell us about NSA spying, but couldn't legally speak up. What's that, boy? Timmy's in the well? We need to learn I blink Morse code. Hmm. Yeah. Writing in code.
Starting point is 01:45:37 That's something I think Da Vinci did a lot of. Because his stuff was kind of heretical. Totally. I don't think he did it through I blinks, but he definitely encoded it. He had an actual written code that he would do. Totally. I don't think he did it through eye blinks, but he definitely encoded it. He had an actual written code that he would do. Totally, yeah. I like a lot of those older texts that we don't even know if the author was really the author. Oh yeah, what's the
Starting point is 01:46:00 story of the Bible being written in code, that Tom Hanks movie? The Da Vinci Code, The Da Vinci Code. And there's also, oh, man, Horowitz. Leonard Horowitz breaks down the code of the Bible. There's a few people that break it down slightly differently. And that, again, shows you apophenia can kick in at any time. What's that? Apophenia is where you see patterns.
Starting point is 01:46:20 You can connect patterns that aren't actually there. That's the the overall apophenia is like you can connect patterns and they make perfect sense and that's where a lot of i bet a lot of conspiracy comes from not all but a lot of people's conspiracy is like when you break it down and there's no evidence but like come on you know they would do this in this scenario which is really just uh we we got a couple important superchats. Ethereal says, Apple doesn't receive your fingerprint or face ID data. It's all saved directly on your phone.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Apple has been doing a really good job privacy-wise. I find that surprising, but alright. Cirilio says, on the fingerprint note, think of face ID and that's use. However, I'd say... It's in use? I'd say it started with real ID compliance stemming from the Patriot Act. Buying tickets to Orlando for my wife and I's honeymoon in the terms you agree to a biometric scan upon entry.
Starting point is 01:47:11 There's this thing they have. I'm not going to mention the name of the company, where if you agree to a biometric scan, they say that they'll escort you into the airport. And I was all excited for this. I was like, ooh, this is awesome, because I have TSA pre, you know, so So when you're flying It's like I just go to the faster line And I've got to take off my shoes Or whatever And so I do this new thing Where it's like
Starting point is 01:47:28 They made it sound like They would just walk me through the door And say have a nice day Because they've checked my fingerprints My face They've scanned Crazy background check All they did was walk me
Starting point is 01:47:37 To the TSA pre line I was like What am I paying for? And they were like Well that's what we do And I'm like I already have this So I just cancelled it
Starting point is 01:47:44 Interesting Yeah that's They walked me to the front Of the, I already have this. So I just canceled it. Interesting. They walked me to the front of the TSA pre-line with like three people in it, to be fair. But I'm like, I don't care. The whole gathering biometric data, like it's definitely happening. Have you guys heard of Yoroi? It's the light wallet for Cardano. You know Cardano? Oh, yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 01:48:00 I have some. Yeah. And I mean, there's a lot good with that, but there's a lot about just like harvesting the biometric data and what Cardano is doing over in Africa. But maybe I'll save that for later. I wonder if there's any way to avoid it or if it's just the natural evolution of species. I don't think there is. And I honestly don't think that actively, what do you call it,
Starting point is 01:48:22 like, you know, butting heads against it, trying to destroy it, is the way forward. All right, Devin H. says, Hey, Tim, there was a shooting in Colorado. Gunman killed a cop. A bystander shot the gunman. Officers arriving killed the bystander. Has received no mainstream media.
Starting point is 01:48:37 This actually was... I saw that. Yeah, We Are Change Colorado. It was a friend of Luke Rutkowski. Yep. So Luke knew him, and, you know, he hit me up as soon as it was happening. He's like, I think this is what happened. And I was like, bro, and it turns out.
Starting point is 01:48:50 I mean, look, a lot of people I see are blaming the cops for this, and I'm like, it's a tragedy. The dude was trying to stop a madman. The cop pulled up and saw a guy shooting, getting reports there was a shooting. You're a cop, and you hear a report, a man just shot a cop and he rushed up and he sees a guy standing there with a gun shooting and they're like, I got to stop him. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:10 I mean, really, I wouldn't blame the cops in this situation because like, I mean, it's so easy to sit in your chair, read a computer and say what you would do in that scenario. Yeah. You know, this is just, it seems this is just one of those very unfortunate events this guy was being a hero from the way that I saw you know I saw Luke's meme and it was a nice one and this guy really was doing a heroic
Starting point is 01:49:34 thing he put his neck out there he paid the ultimate price and probably saved lives Sky Roland says fresh and fit coming to a Timcast near you I've heard rumors I've heard rumors Yeah. Sky Roland says, fresh and fit, coming to a Timcast near you. I've heard rumors. I've heard rumors.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Tune in. Grave 367 says, Blackrock, why does Thorson want my house and DNA? Is that how you pronounce it, Thorson? Who's Thorson? He's the, that's the dark dwarves in World of Warcraft. Emperor Thorson. Oh, is it? Emperor, that's his name.
Starting point is 01:50:10 He's Emperor Thorson. The dark dwarves from Blackrock. Yeah. Blackrock Downs. Blackrock Mountain. I never got there. My friends were all level 60
Starting point is 01:50:17 by the time I was level 40. Level 55. I was like 10 levels behind so I never got to enjoy those realms from Badlands on. I don't know where they're at now, but I'm pretty sure they're an allied race now. Like you can play as them in Warcraft.
Starting point is 01:50:29 You're saying no? Dark Dwarves. No, I'm just saying. Oh, okay. I was like, oh, well, correct me if I'm wrong. No. No, I'm pretty sure you can. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 01:50:35 He's in Hearthstone, right? He costs five. He's a 5-5, and he makes all the cards in your hand cost one less every turn. Every turn. He's great. Yeah, he's powerful. And then his wife, when she, her death rattle, she summons him, I think. Oh.
Starting point is 01:50:49 Oh, and then there's the Grim Patrons. Whenever they take another patron yeah yeah awesome yep great game all right let's see what we got here black rock beacon says with all this talk about black rock i feel the need to say i'm not related in any way to any other similarly named entity tim thought the subverse name debacle was bad at least the other guys weren't suspected of being evil Raymond Chalmers says I'm being censored on Twitter Raymond underscore Chalmers probably the go to says Tim cast is allowed to exist because it adds to
Starting point is 01:51:18 the harmonizing it's a good point I don't know I don't know harmony of nature this is awesome says Tim is openly controlled. He's not allowed to talk about fraud or medication for 2020 problems. But I will say if you go to TimCast.com, you want to see a conversation with Steve Bannon, it's available there. And if you want to see a conversation with Candace Owens talking about Bill Gates, it's also available there. I think we're not long for this YouTube world.
Starting point is 01:51:41 But for the time being, we'll just make sure the platforms exist where we can have the conversations we need to have. We're hiring more writers. We're going to do more shows. We got the paranormal mystery stuff on the way. This is already so awesome. So we need the new website format so it's easier to navigate, but then we're going to have a new paranormal show. I already
Starting point is 01:52:00 have a name idea for it, but I'm not going to say it until we can claim all of the proper credentials and everything, but it's going to be fun. The idea is we're going to have a 10 idea for it, but I'm not going to say it until we can claim all of the proper credentials and everything. It's going to be fun. The idea is we're going to have a 10-15 minute actual episode where we'll have sound effects and our writers will be doing voiceovers saying, and then the guy
Starting point is 01:52:18 did this. It's November 13, 1952 in Alabama. A giraffe was spotted running across the street. And you hear like hoofs clacking and then after that like 10 minute storytelling we go into open conversation and so we'll be like ian chillen he'll be like dude this story about the draft like how did you find out about this and then we'll you know open conversation so that we'll have like members only stuff i'm so excited for this it's gonna be so cool you're doing a lot of cool stuff man
Starting point is 01:52:42 hopefully um there's like a story about birds disappearing so you guys hear about the racing pigeons disappearing no they released 9 000 racing pigeons 5 000 vanished and they they released them and then they wait for them to come home and see who wins and they were like maybe a solar storm screw with their magneto perception or whatever but there's other stories around the world right now of other birds migratory birds like not showing up. And so we got a mystery on our hands. Like what's going on with these bird disappearances? And then you always have these weird stories about like birds falling from the sky just like in large numbers.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Yeah. Like just like dying. So we'll have like a full in-depth like investigation into like these mysteries. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'd like to hear more about that because I got my theories about the birds. I would like to interview a bird. I wonder if the cats have finally come up with a plan and now they've done it. They've got the birds.
Starting point is 01:53:32 They're all sitting there at the windows chattering. And then finally the plans come to fruition and the birds are just getting taken out one by one. It's a mess. It's like Order 66 but for cats. The cats will have their revenge. Music DC guy says the Star Trek episode was people
Starting point is 01:53:48 who were ruled by the computer and they did know, but had a decree like the purge they had to do. Interesting. Whoa, this is crazy. Nine-tailed fox says, Tim, I got drunk and eating raspberries in the woods while watching.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Did you get drunk from the raspberries? Be careful. Why are you in the woods? Yeah. You want to hear the craziest thing? So I thought we had raspberries on the property because our neighbor was like, you know, this guy who's not too far away was like, there are wild raspberries all over here. And so I walked around and sure enough, there's a bunch of little red berries. Turns out they're wine berries.
Starting point is 01:54:23 They're not raspberries but they're basically the same thing they taste very similar they're delicious we also got blackberries mulberries we got pawpaw trees we got pawpaw growing outside there's been tim made some amazing was it goat cheese with red wine berry and yeah it was not red wine berry well they're red but it was uh goat cheese wine berry jalapeno. Right from the property, man. And we have these apples. Not the goats, though. The goat cheese.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Oh, yeah, the goats. No, we sourced. Ian's like eating the dip with a spoon. It was so good. I'm going to put this on this. It was like an apple crumble from local apples on the property. Crab apple crumble. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:54:57 It's Allison's crab apple crumble. And then Allison and I made wild berry chicken. We took the wild berries. We cooked them down with some sugar and some lemon, just like a jam. And then we tossed a little bit of it into a garlic fried chicken. So it was amazing. I'm so hungry right now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Dude, there might be more of that. I'm bringing that up just because having your own food, being out of a city, you know what the craziest thing is? This app, we got like three apple trees right next to the house, just right outside. You could eat for weeks if you ate nothing but apple. You'd probably get sick of them, but there's just like hundreds of them. There's a bush next to it with probably like 300, 400 blackberries on it.
Starting point is 01:55:41 I'm like, we got to hire someone just to like forage for us. But we're going to do what we're going to do. I ordered a soft serve machine and we're going to take wine berries and we're gonna mix them with vanilla and make wine berry ice cream so you can just like you know make a little like does it does it like mash it all together for you in the machine or yeah it'll turn it all up and everything and then it'll come out and you'll have like this nice berry ice cream it's gonna be so it's gonna be so amazing should look all berries are legit too get somebody to can some of them as well. Oh, that's good.
Starting point is 01:56:06 Yeah. Because a lot will go to waste unless, I mean, I would assume you could feed some of that to the chickens, but like- Tim Kess old-fashioned mulberry jam. And those apples, man. The cap would be a beanie that you would unscrew. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:18 So pawpaws, they're like, it tastes like avocado and mango combined. You can't buy those or mulberries because they're too delicate to ship. But I wonder why people don't – like can you buy mulberry jam? Because that's easy. You just take it. You cook it down. We got – Pawpaw makes really good ointment as well.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Really? Yeah. We have a massive tree. It's like 60 – no, maybe – what is it? Like 40 feet tall. You walk underneath it and you just shake a branch and like 300 mulberries just fall into it. You put a blanket down or something.
Starting point is 01:56:47 It's amazing. I love that. Anyway, Christian Montague says, Tim, please keep up with the Stargate references. I've been watching the series in chronological order
Starting point is 01:56:56 ever since you mentioned it and I've been hooked. Much love to Lids and Ian. Yeah, somebody mentioned that because I was like, Star Trek, Star Trek, and they're like, watch Stargate.
Starting point is 01:57:03 And I'm like, okay. And what a good show. This is SG-1, the show? I saw the movie with, geez, who was in the movie? The movie was kind of whack. Yeah, I loved it. I saw it in the 90s or whatever. It was with Kurt Russell.
Starting point is 01:57:15 Yeah. What's his name from later? He was on The Office. Amazing actor. Yeah. Actually, one of my favorite actors of all time. The main scientist going through was the guy from The Killing Zoe, I think. Amazing actor. Yeah. Actually, one of my favorite actors of all time. The main scientist going through was the guy from The Killing Zoe, I think. Amazing actor.
Starting point is 01:57:27 I thought that movie was weird, but I love the idea of discovering a portal and traveling. I mean, I don't know why I'm obsessed with dimensional traveling. Have you seen the Stargate in Peru? I've heard about it. It's like a little notch cut out of a big rock. This is like ancient civilizations
Starting point is 01:57:43 believed it was a real Stargate. Would they go inside of it and their consciousness consciousness would be teleported i mean no one really knows there's a lot of theories but i mean there's even cree uh elders wilford buck saying that you know the the star people came long ago to tell our people how to travel the cosmos and gave us maps of the cosmos and we do do that through our DNA and wormholes. So, I mean, like, this is a Cree, you know, like up in Canada, north of the Great Lakes, elder, talking about this is what their people have always known. So, maybe.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Do we mix up Blackstone and Blackrock? So Blackrock, I believe, was the first one. Oh, no, no, yeah. Blackstone is buying entity and Blackstone is buying houses. Somebody was mentioning that it was Blackrock. One came from the other. Yeah, but they're both active. Yeah, and they're both right next to each other in New York. Like 1985, Blackrock, and I think Blackstone split from it.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Larry Fink went off to start Blackstone, and then Blackstone got far larger. I think $619 billion is Blackrock. $8.7 trillion is Blackstone. You know, I think it's the other way around, and I could be wrong about that, but I heard Blackrock, State Street, and there's another one, are the top three investment firms on earth. Blackrock. Blackrock's the one buying the homes, right?
Starting point is 01:59:07 No, no, it's Blackstone. That's so confusing. That is on purpose. Look how similar those company names are. Well, they came from one another. Blackstone bought Ancestry and Blackstone is buying homes. Yeah. One company.
Starting point is 01:59:17 That's what it is, Blackstone. Okay. All right, so we got Mr. Dubzaster says, when speaking with Michael Knowles, you mentioned rebuilding Chicken City. Is there a chance for a Make Chicken City Great Again shirt? I'd buy that for sure. Oh, yeah. We want to do shirt designs. Here's what I imagine. We have seven chickens. Well, we have six
Starting point is 01:59:34 chickens and a rooster. And I want to have like a yellow circle with a blue outline and then the chicken's head in the middle. And it'll say like Team Vanessa and Team Margaret because then we're just going to put the cameras on and have the chickens do their thing and then you can buy the shirts for the chicken that you like if you stare into their eyes it's like if you ever stare into humans eyes and they looked like that you would think they were the deepest psychopath and we had
Starting point is 01:59:55 four eggs today but oh what am i even supposed to do with all those eggs omelet custard omelet late night omelet mulberry custard Mulberry custard. Mulberry custard. Wine. We got blackberries coming. Probably in the next couple of days, we're going to have hundreds of blackberries. And we could probably freeze it if we need to. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:14 We should make jams and stuff and preserves and all that stuff. I'm stoked. We should probably start actively harvesting the apples and the mulberries. Because it's nuts. Like, you talk to people around here, and they complain about mulberries. You drive down the street, the road is just dyed purplish black. Because there are trees that hang over the road and it's just insane how many berries there are. But you could walk right up. When they're ripe, you just touch it and it just, just put it in your mouth.
Starting point is 02:00:38 You eat them, they're delicious. Yeah, almost like kiwi. And we're talking about food shortages coming. Isn't that weird? Not for me though, dude. We got chickens. I know. And now, big news.
Starting point is 02:00:47 Roberto has started, you know what I'm saying? Cheeky, cheeky. Yeah, that's right. Can I just call him Bob? Bob. That's right. He started yelling. He was yelling.
Starting point is 02:00:56 It was funny. At first, he was going, and we would laugh at him. And now, he's going, look at this guy. He needs to clear his voice. He yells randomly and like 15 times in a row. And we're like, hey, look at this guy. He needs to clear his voice. He yells randomly and like 15 times in a row and we're like, bro, we get,
Starting point is 02:01:08 he's got to practice. He's got Tourette's. I heard he was practicing. I heard chicken, I heard like bawk, bawk from my side of the house earlier today, my side of the house,
Starting point is 02:01:16 but like, was it turkeys? Wild turkeys out there? Yeah, yeah. Probably. It must have been turkeys. The wild turkeys are walking around all the time.
Starting point is 02:01:22 Oh, nice. But you may have just heard homeboy yelling. It was weird. It didn't sound like the right area ofkeys are walking around all the time. Oh, nice. But you may have just heard Homeboy yelling. It was weird. It didn't sound like the right area of the yard, so I wasn't sure. Yeah. Gobble, gobble. I'm hoping it's turkeys.
Starting point is 02:01:32 All right. Mandamar says, if you're into Earth Catastrophe Cycle Rabbit Hole, a good view is the channel Suspicious Observers. I know it's verboten to suggest guests, but, you know, whatever. PowderPZ says, Tim, please make an app so we can watch member content on Roku. Yes. We're working towards it. A mobile app so that you can listen to the members-only content with your phone, you know, with your screen off.
Starting point is 02:01:56 And Roku, it's called OTT. It's called Over the Top. We're going as fast as we can. All of these things are in the pipeline. The first thing's first, the new website. I'll tell you this, man. We had so many people sign up. It's an absurd amount of members.
Starting point is 02:02:08 And so I went to these companies and I was like, is it possible to just pay a ton of money to have this stuff done in like a week? And they were like, no. You can't – because people are literally coding, the more cooks in the kitchen, the more messy it gets. And then instead of actually someone just going through it and doing the job, you have people arguing over like, what is this code? Is it bugging now? I don't know what happened. We got to go back. There's only so much you can do and only as fast as you can go, but we're getting there. So ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't
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Starting point is 02:03:26 and you can find my news channels. I just talked about the whole housing thing. Yeah, and your ancient documentaries, your documentaries from like a decade ago, are still fascinatingly topical, like Esoteric Agenda, Chimatica, Ungripped, those three particularly. Yeah, there's a lot in Esoteric agenda that's coming to fruition to today like what we're seeing today we'll get into that in the members section oh yeah it's gonna be fun benjosephstuart.com a lot of a lot of people will recognize the title about what we're going
Starting point is 02:03:58 to talk about the first question i have but youtube doesn't allow it so same thing with bannon the first thing i said to bannon in the when we did the members only with bannon i just immediately said the thing youtube doesn't allow you to say bannon gave his response so anyway we got to do we got to do look it's it's it's pros and cons once we have the website up we're gonna have op-ed writers we're gonna have news writers so even if we can't say it on the show the website's gonna have a lot of topics and talk about serious things and it's going to be legit double fact checked no jokes
Starting point is 02:04:27 like I'm not the kind of person who's going to go find like some random doctor in Wisconsin to say what I want to hear about a medication we're going to be like you know this organization that organization says this the FDA says this the CDC says this
Starting point is 02:04:40 and we want people to be personally responsible we just want to have as much information as possible thank you Tim call them into their higher potential so they can make their decision and we want people to be personally responsible, which want to have as much information as possible. Thank you, Tim. Call them into their higher potential so they can make their decision. Yeah, don't look at me, man. I don't want to get sued when you drink soap or something.
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