Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #323 - Largest Teacher's Union APPROVES Teaching Marxism, CRT, In Schools w/Asra Nomani

Episode Date: July 6, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join journalist, anti-critical theory activist and parent Asra Nomani to discuss the recent news about the largest teachers' union in the country's admission that they are, in fact, teaching students critical 'praxis,' or practical application of critical theory, look at real books that are required in these new woke school systems, examine the real-world application of critical theory as Antifa attacks counter-protesters at the controversial spa in LA where a man exposed himself to women in the locker room, an Illinois congresswoman who thought the Nazis might have been onto something, how far-left democrats took July 4th to demonstrate their anti-American sentiment, and the leftist policies that are destroying San Francisco and driving people away. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I can only imagine what it must look like to have all of that egg on her face, Joy Reid, after her debate with Chris Ruffo, where she gets everything wrong, and she says that schools aren't teaching critical race theory because, well, now we have actually the largest teachers union backing, approving a plan to teach critical race theory, which is rooted in Marxism, and to provide resources to push back on anti-critical race theory rhetoric. And right in front of me, there are a bunch of books from schools, including one workbook for school. These are for kids, right? Yep.

How to Be an Anti-Racist by Ibram X. Kendi. Now, I do think we're going to have a long and important conversation about what's actually going on in these schools, what critical race theory means, and why it's more than this. And I think critical race theory doesn't go far enough in explaining what's really happening because something else is happening. A creepy authoritarian cult is indoctrinating your children. That's what's happening. And there are those that believe in merit, and there are those that believe in, I don't know, I guess communism. You could, you could, that's what you could call it.

It's not capitalism. It's not like we march around saying like, we're all capitalists, but we do believe that if you work hard, you can succeed. These people don't believe that. They believe you're either oppressed or an oppressor and nothing will ever change that. So go to them for political answers, I guess. It's authoritarianism. And it's creepy because what they're doing right now is very similar to what happened.

And I'm going to go there. We're going to go cliche. World War II, Nazi Germany. It's what the Nazis sought to do. Take the children away because you may sit here saying you don't like any of this stuff and we're going to win. But they are going for your kids. This is why it struck a nerve. It's why the backlash has been so massive. It's why they are struggling to push back and why they're now openly accepting and publishing that they are going to be teaching your kids Marxist theory, essentially critical race theory, an offshoot of this in a. How about this, for example? What was her name? Gwen Berry was the Olympic athlete.

A few years ago, she's standing holding an American flag with a smile on her face. Now she's on the podium, angry, covering her head, angry at the national anthem. What happened to make this bright and cheery individual

waving the American flag so disdainful and hateful of her own country? It is this cult, and it is a world of pessimism and darkness. So we'll talk about this. Joining us to talk about the latest news and what's happening in these schools is Vice President for Parents Defending Education, Azra Nomani.

Thank you so much for having me here. Is there anything else you wanted to add to introduce yourself? Well, I'm a mom. I am a survivor. I just saw my son graduate from high school, and we have survived this assault on children. And I'm here because I believe everybody in America needs to wake up. Everybody needs to know that we have a real threat.

I'm motivated by a love of this country, love of children, and a hope for the future. I do not want toxic ideologies sucked into any child's brain to basically turn them into angry, disaffected human beings on this earth. Like our job is to make sure that everybody kind of has this path to a positive life and we have to stand in the way. So I'm part of this movement of mama bears and pop bears that are basically standing in front of school boards and refusing and and this is so important because this could be the straw that breaks the camel's back it could be the crack in the dam that you know ruptures it completely steve bannon said that come august 15th when these parents see what

their kids are learning, you're going to see something that he thinks we're going to win. Yeah, it exploded. It exploded last year. My wake up was in June 2020 when I found out that the principal at my son's high school across the border here in Fairfax County, Virginia, Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology, decided that we, the Asian parents, had privilege, and we needed to check our privilege. And by the way, while we were at it, we needed to get rid of the colonial mascot, because what a representation that was of racism. And oh, while we were at it, we needed to fix the admissions process so that our demographics at the school could match the demographics of the county,

which meant a purge of Asians. And that just happened two weeks ago. We'll get into that. We have an article that you wrote, and we'll talk about that. Yep. We got Ian chillin'. Yeah. I mean, these, Osri brought, I don't know how many, 15 books at least that I'm looking at. This is just, it's so jarring to see it face to face because I hear about it. But to think that these books are now being embedded in the school system, man, it's starting to freak me out.

This book is creepy. Dude, the colors, like, it's blue and the red. They're just like for little kid candy for kids. Black Lives Matter notebook. They ask you to fill out, like, these are workbooks for children. Tim was reading some of them. I mean you give this to a grade schooler. I would have aced this stuff.

I would have done so well on it and memorized it and written it to heart if I was told to do it. Right. I mean you would have been just filled in – like this is fill in the blanks, right? You basically do that. We got to show some of these questions. We'll get into all this because wow, wow. We also got Lydia pressing all the buttons. Yeah, I'm in the corner, and I'm really excited for this conversation

because people constantly are asking us, what can I do to make a difference? Well, here's a lovely lady who started down the path of making a difference. I'm excited. I'm feeling good about the future. Before we get started, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member, and you'll get access to exclusive segments from the TimCast IRL podcast. We had Dr. Chris Martinson on last week, and I can't even show you the title of that podcast because YouTube would ban us if I did. No joke. Not even kidding. Just the title of it. If I scroll down on our own

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Floyd's birthday. So this is it. We've heard over and over again that no one's teaching critical race theory in schools. It was a semantic game. What they're actually doing was they were, they call it praxis, theory and practice. So they weren't teaching you the writings of, say, Kimberly Crenshaw. They were applying the ideology that she had written about into the teachings of these schools, and they're using derivative writings or ideologies like anti-racism and critical white studies to indoctrinate your children. Now the cat's out of the bag. The National Educators Association announced it is backing the teaching of critical race theory in schools. The country's largest teachers union

approved a resolution to promote critical race theory and schools. The country's largest teachers union approved a resolution to promote critical race theory and assemble a team to teach it to union members. It also wants to assemble a staff take on those who challenge its plans to promote CRT. In addition to its plans, the NEA will launch a national day of action on October 14th, George Floyd's birthday, to have a dialogue on systemic racism. As of June 29th, 26 states have introduced bills or taken steps to restrict teaching critical race theory. It is unclear how the NEA's plan to teach CRT

will be implemented in such states. I got to say, I read some history. I am not optimistic. We are repeating, humans are repeating themselves in this regard. If you look back to the 1920s and what was going on in Germany, I know it's extremely cliche to invoke Godwin's law and say, oh, they're just like the Nazis. They're not in the sense that they believe the same things, although actually they kind of do, racial identitarianism.

But you take a look at what happened in the 20s, what happened with Hitler being this, what do they call him, the leader of the reactionary extremists. And then eventually he won over the country. And the reason he did it, in his own words, is that he indoctrinated children. So now that's what we're seeing. So here's where there's some optimism, though. Steve Bannon said on this show, what was it, a week or so ago, that we are going to win. We're going to defeat this Marxist ideology, the critical race theorists, and the establishment. Just take a look at what's happening in Loudoun County with these parents who are fighting back against critical race theory. When these moms start seeing what's being taught to their children, they're going to wake up.

And then he likened it to the French Revolution. He said once the women, the wives, came out, that was it. That it was over. They marched down to the palace. They took the king, the queen, or whatever. So maybe what we're seeing now with the work you're doing, Azra, and all these books you have to show us, is it's cause for hope. Yeah.

I mean, it is cause for hope because we got fed up. We got fed up. We just decided, okay, we've got our carpool that we got to do. We got to make dinner. We got to make a living. But we're not going to let garbage go into our kids' minds. And so that's what happened in my life. And I know that every parent that I speak to is equally motivated. There's nothing that will stand between a parent and their child

because love is what connects us, and it's existential. This is a being that you brought into this world. You can lose a lot in this life. You can lose a job. You can lose a lot in this life. You can lose a job. You can lose a home. But when your child is in threat of being taken from you in spirit and in mind, there's nothing that's going to stop you. We saw this viral story last year where when they started doing Zoom courses, the kids were now doing remote teaching. There was a leaked video. Apparently, some teacher was like, I'm really worried what's going to happen if the parents find out what we're teaching their kids. And then the parents found out what was being

taught to their kids. Yeah, we listen. And you know what happens is we're just shocked because all of a sudden you have entrusted the school system with your kid's life. And now you see that in fact, your child's future is threatened because they may end up in this very regressive mindset. And that's troubling. And so from New York City to Beaverton, Oregon, you know, we've got parents that are standing up. We've got teachers.

What we've done at Parents Defending Education is created a little portal. And in that portal, people report to us their tips. And we put their tips. We investigate them i've been a journalist 30 years and i do the reporting and we all do the reporting we've got erica in rhode island we've got marissa here in virginia we've got nikki and virginia also and parents all over the country that are part of our movement and we're putting them up on the map so that everybody knows in every school district what's going on something crazy that uh well well i think people are familiar with the higher profile

battles that are happening the loudon county being one of the the biggest you have these parents that they're in these videos they're going viral yeah because effectively what's happening is these schools are teaching children that they either are oppressed or oppressors, which is basically Marxist theory and a critical theory. And they're saying, which is basically the same thing, but I digress. They're saying to these kids, like minorities, you will never succeed. You can't succeed. You're oppressed. It'll never happen.

Yeah. And there's no solution offered up to that ideology. You tell someone you will always fail. Have a nice day. Yeah. And so you're creating that bigotry of low expectations for minorities. And then Asians, when we say, actually, we like math, you know, and our kids are good at math. And they go into the STEM schools like my son's school.

We're the inconvenient minority. Right. And then they want to dismiss us as white adjacent. And they're just white now. Yeah, they don't even bother. They say whiteness is a critical race theory, that it's a property, that it's a tangible thing owned by people, and that if you're accepted, then basically Asian people can be white. Now, here's the funny thing.

Our friend Luke, Luke Rutkowski, who is on the show every so often, he has blonde hair and blue eyes. He is white. But he's Slavic. So according to the Coalition for Communities of Color, they say that he's a person of color as a Slavic individual. Blonde hair, blue eyed, white guy. Yeah, yeah. Because ultimately, the identity shouldn't be defined by these abstract ideas.

And speaking of whiteness, this is one of those books that's actually sold and taught to elementary school kids called Not My Idea. The most startling page is this one. Now, this is in schools. This is in schools. Christopher Rufo tweeted about this. Yeah. This is one of those books. It's taught in Pennsylvania. It's taught in Texas. Let me read some of this. Whiteness is a bad deal. It always was.

Dude, we can see your pointy tail. What does that mean? Go to the next page. It says, contract, binding you to whiteness, you'll get stolen land, stolen riches, special favors. Whiteness gets, checkmark, to mess endlessly with the lives of your friends, neighbors, loved ones, and all fellow humans of color. For the purpose of profit, your soul. Sign below. Land, riches, and favors may be revoked at any time for any reason.

And the pointy tail is on the devil. The contract with the devil. And that's what whiteness is. And this is going to third graders. Can you imagine that a third grader has to And this is going to third graders. Can you imagine that a third grader has to process? Nine-year-olds. Yeah. Basically this kind of garbage. It's really toxicity. That's amazing. I mean, when I was a kid, we didn't learn. These are complicated concepts to teach a child. Yeah. And if you want to talk about colonization and you want to talk about,

some of these moments from history, you don't associate it then with every white child that exists in classrooms today. Well, it's funny how none of it makes sense, to be completely honest. I mean, they say Asians are white adjacent. Then they say Asians are actually white. Then they say stop Asian hate. Right, right. Because they've got to do their virtue signaling, right? They've got to act like they care, but ultimately they don't

care because they're out to destroy Asians' pursuit of merit. Exactly. Yeah, so what is it about Asians that they get lumped in with whiteness and perhaps it's the stereotype of the stern

Asian parent telling their child to work harder. Are you a doctor yet? You're not? Why not? Keep studying. And that's the joke. And they don't like the idea that I suppose that people pass down studiousness.

I don't think it's racial. I think it's cultural. And I think what we're really talking about right here is they call it cultural Marxism. But I think it's very communistic in the sense that they don't want you to believe you can succeed. Because then what happens? You're dependent upon the government. You're dependent upon some external structure or system to provide for you because you're oppressed. You can't do it. In that book, when they mentioned that contract with whiteness, do they offer up any positives of how to succeed

and how to overcome being oppressed? Well, you have to get rid of your whiteness, you know, first of all, as a human being. And then you have to say that racism is what brought you down. Right. And you have to have this acknowledgement of that. And that is very culty. Yeah, it is very culty. And this is all the books and literature of a cult. And that's what I think is parallel in what you said about Nazism. I mean, I've heard you also talk about how critical race theory, you know, isn't the concept that we should put out there. We should just call it wokeism, right? Well, yeah. I mean, whether it's

true or not, like it's an ism, it's an ideology. And that's what got me into this because as a journalist, I'm always looking at ideas and how they're sold and how they're marketed out in the world. And that's what I then realized is that there's this multi-million dollar industry pushing this ideology into our schools. Spineless corporations, to see a quick buck in a book, willing to push it. Yeah, I say wokeness because critical race theory has some specific ideas. And there are derivative ideas that don't rest inside

the writings of critical race theorists. And they use these semantic games to manipulate. So perhaps identitarianism might be a better way to describe it. The reason I like saying identitarianism, it's effectively the etymology is identity plus government you know,

government, form of government. Yeah. So you have government on the basis of race. Right. Granted, it's very vague considering everything they're talking about, because it's deeper than just government or policy. But they're very much so pushing a way of life and policy based on your race, very much so like the Nazis did. And so if you want to find that common factor between the authoritarian groups, do they hold the same economic views? No, of course not. And it becomes very silly when people say,

oh, so-and-so is a fascist. It's like the fascists had specific views on the state and corporations, and the Nazis had very specific views on race. Authoritarianism is the better word, but that's really broad. The thing that binds these with what we've seen in the past 100 years is racial identitarianism combined with authoritarianism.

I don't care what kind of economic system you have if you're an authoritarian in the first place. And then outside of that, race-based authoritarianism is just a million times freakier. Yeah. And I fit really well in the oppression matrix because I'm a Muslim. I'm a woman.

I'm an immigrant. I lived in poverty when my family moved to America. Grew up in West Virginia. And so I could make out pretty well in this suffering. But the reason why I care is because this ism that really woke me up that was in my life was Islamism, which is the political Islam. So as a Muslim, I grew up with a very progressive interpretation of the faith. I didn't grow up with thinking that I had to cover my hair. I brought as another show and tell this doll who looks like a typical Barbie. But when she arrived,

her name is Fula and she had her hair covered. She was wearing the black abaya that women have to wear right in Saudi Arabia. And you'll see that I took her to vote with me one day. I got her the voting sticker because, you know, women have been denied the vote in these Islamist countries. So there's being a Muslim and then there's believing in Islam that is about your identity and about politics. It has to be in governance. And so for the last 20 years after 9-11, I've been fighting that extremism. And that's where I really understood this identity politics divides people. It's dangerous. It kills people.

And that's why I know that the battle we're in is so important. And there's an interesting point we made, too, with identity politics. There's sort of a positive identity politics and a negative identity politics. And I think it's hard to know exactly where the dividing line is. Certainly we view the Civil Rights Act as a good thing. You can't discriminate on the basis of race. What we don't like is identity politics where they say you must discriminate on the basis of race. So that's what I've run into with many of these left personalities. They're like, aha, when you say Civil Rights Act, you're playing identity politics.

And I'm like, I'm saying you can't use someone's race to discriminate. And then they say you can. But I think it's really fascinating though. They then say you can't discriminate on the basis of sex. They say it's a really confusing thing

to be completely honest, but maybe we'll get into that in a second. I want to do this first because I want to talk about critical theory in general, critical gender theory. The big battle in Loudoun County is actually over a transgender policy bill, so it's not just race theory, but I got to pull up this book. I was looking at this book. We got this, How to Be an Anti-Racist by Ibram X. Kendi. Ultimate summary, lessons, goals, checklists, and action plans is made press. So what is this? What is this insane book? So this is a book that you use while you read his book that Fairfax County, Virginia, for example, spent $24,000 buying and requiring children to read.

And so then you get this workbook that accompanies it, and you would have loved it, right? You would have just filled in the blank. You would have said, oh, okay, I have to go. This is my next prompt. You would have been a great student going through this workbook. So tell us some of the great questions that they've got in there. Well, I want to go to the back.

Let's see what we got. Okay. Well, those are action steps. First, I'll just point out they have these these areas where you can write lessons number one queer racism is a strong collection of racist policies leading to inequity among race sexualities that can be substantiated by racist ideas as regards race sexualities queer anti-racism is the phenomenal gathering of anti-racist policies leading to equity amongst race sexualities for authentication by anti-racist ideas on race sexualities.

Every race sexuality is unique. Did that mean anything? I feel like I missed a step. Yeah, I missed something. What's race sexuality? Answer the question. It's intentional. Yes.

Yeah, it's so intentional, word salad, because they want to confuse people and make them dizzy with their assumptions. They have so many strange assumptions in every sentence. Here's one. In what ways can you be a successful gender and queer anti-racist? Yeah, exactly. Like what? Yeah. And then you just fill the blank in?

Yeah, fill the blank in. Explain why everything about race is tied to lay down policies that predominantly cause so much harm to other racial groups. Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Right. What? Explain why everything about race is tied to lay down policies that predominantly cause so much harm to other racial groups. What?

What? Yeah. What is he saying? Is he saying that his own book about race is harming racial groups? Or is he saying that restricting it cause harms to racial groups? It seems like he needs a copy editor. Yeah, seriously. I mean, it's dizzy.

Here's the goals. Number one, and you've got to write, you've got to fill this in. In what ways has your sexuality been threatened? How did you go about it, and what would you have done differently? How old are the kids who get this? These kids will be high schoolers. Okay. I mean, still, come on.

Oh yeah, for sure. It's, it's basically, you're getting this Bible for critical race theory handed to these kids for required reading and then you're getting his own nonsense

repeated back as if you're supposed to treat it like it's intelligent prompt. It's garbled nonsense. I mean, so here's another one. And again, you got to fill out the blank. Map out the modus operandi you intend to begin in helping to protect and shield vulnerable homosexuals and heterosexuals henceforth.

Wow. Yeah. Is that what high school kids need to know? Yes. And so what's the hidden agenda there? It is to turn our kids from being students of knowledge into activists. Yes. I mean, that's the bottom line.

Teachers have said that. I love this. I love this. Chapter 16, failure. It says, race is a social construct, not a power construct. What? What? Race's racial history as a singular match of racial progress and not a combat of anti-racist

and racist progress did you say racist racial history yes this is terrible right race is problem being ingrained in ignorance and hatred and not powerful selfish interests it says the racial history of failure is tied to failed solutions and policies. The failed solutions and policies are due to failed racial principles. There are several wrong notions of race we need to debunk before we go further. This is circular. It feels like a fever dream. Have you guys ever

had like strep throat and you wake up in the middle of the night? Right, right, right. Exactly. Things don't make sense. But if you can believe it, like, so he's become the poster boy for this, right? He's being $20,000 for one hour Zoom call. You ready for this one? The school district's pay.

This is what they're asking children. They're asking, okay, maybe the teenagers. Why do you think the black skin makes non-black uncomfortable? I read that verbatim, by the way. The black skin makes non-black uncomfortable. This is like Robin DiAngelo. It is.

When she said, what did she write in her book? That she went to a party with black people and she felt really uncomfortable around them. I'm like, that's you, dude. You're racist. Yeah, that's not a me problem. And then if you've internalized some messages about yourself, like don't go projecting them on others. All I do is project. Yeah.

Yeah. And so there's what I'm so happy about is so many of the black parents that are emerging and saying this is not how we want to raise our kids. They're in Loudoun. They're in Fairfax. There's a great movement there. Are you a behavioral racist or anti-racist? And what are your attributes based on your chosen position? You're either a racist or an anti-racist.

Oh, so it says, are you A or B? And after you select that, yes, you are one of the two. Yeah. No, but here's the point. Both racist and anti-racist believe in discriminating on the basis of race. Yeah, there's no way. Anti-racism from Ibram X. Kendi is, we's it's in ibram x hendy has called for racial discrimination yes yeah he has that quote where he said the only solution to past discrimination is present

discrimination and future discrimination i'm paraphrasing right so to tell kids you are either a racist or an anti-racist and they have to pick one he they're basically creating this false choice where it's like well so which one do you want to be do you want to be the person who discriminates on the basis of race or do you want to be the person who discriminates on the basis of race sure yeah mom was just telling me that this is just like the salem witch trials you know as i was driving here are you a witch oh then we have to burn you at the stake oh you're not a witch then that means you're denying being a witch and so we have to burn you no then we have to drop you in the in the water and see if you float.

Right. Right. Exactly. So either way you die. Yeah. Either way. And that's what they're going after. They are trying to destroy people.

This is a lovely notebook that you can inspire. The BLM notebook. Is this just like for writing in? Yes. Just for your, your personal reflections. Yeah. So this right here,

this fist is called the red salute. Right. Yeah. And it's been appropriated they call it the black power fist and that's like saying it's not the nazi salute it's the white power salute it's like i don't care what you call it dude it represents authoritarian identitarianism i'm not interested and then this is now this this fist is now becoming the stuff of powerpoint slides and classrooms it's the stuff of posters in teachers' rooms. It just goes,

and that's what fascinates me, propaganda again, because this becomes cool for the kids. Yeah. Somebody on Twitter pointed out to me that the feminist symbol is exactly the same fist, but with the sign for the feminine. And I'm like, how long has this been going on? How did we not notice this? So there's a bunch of other books what's this call me max book you have oh yeah so this goes into the transgender issue so this was a book that was read to kids right in Austin Texas in the school district there called Eanes and lovely pages about a well I don't know I, do you call a boy born a girl who wants to be called Max? I mean, Max is actually androgynous. Maxine, Maxwell.

He declares that his parents had decided at birth that he was a girl. But he decided, no, I am not. The grown-ups made a mistake. And so lovely Max is able to find little kids that he can speak to about it. And then fortunately for him, he finds a friend who is also in the same situation and has decided that he's a girl, and a support group at school.

And there they get to talk about their identity issues. Away from the parents who were wrong. Yes, who were wrong and made a mistake. And so a really critical part of these teachings, including this one, I Am Jazz, another famous one, is that the parents made a mistake. So this is, again, another Marxist ideal. This is from the Cultural Revolution, right, dividing the parents from the children, creating intergenerational warfare. And ultimately, the state knows better than the parent on how to raise a child. Do you remember when the teachers

were melting down over the idea that parents could now listen to their classes on Zoom? Oh yeah, I know. I think this is why. And yeah, because ultimately in this whole dynamic is the idea that the kids have secrets also that they need to keep from the parents. So you know this is another issue where school districts are debating whether or not a child comes to them and they say they want to be called by a different pronoun. Do they tell the parents? And then they have a form on whether or not they tell the parents or not, because they can keep it a secret from the parents. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I have some questions about books like this. I was just looking through the book and in it, the child eventually, you know, talking to the kids at school, goes to the parents, the parents have a conversation,

then the kid goes to a support group. What about children who are pre-pubescent? What about them is not boy or girl? So they say that gender is a social construct. So is the issue that Max, which could be a male or female name, Max wants to wear blue jeans and not a skirt? Well, that's not anything to do with biological sex. I agree.

Whether or not someone wears a skirt is a social construct. In Scotland, they wear kilts. Very similar in some respects. Yeah, Middle East. Yeah, Middle East, they wear, what would you call them? The gowns, basically. Gowns? Yeah.

Men wearing gowns? Right, right. A toga? The gowns, basically. Gowns? Yeah. Men wearing gowns? Right, right. A toga? A burning man I wore a dress? Right, right. That's a little different. It's normal. So while they say that gender is a social construct, the way we dress is a social construct, a child who has no concept of sexuality

would go through a biological treatment when what they're really saying is, I want to wear different clothing. Yeah. So there's a lot of questions around that. Yeah. And then what's happening is our medical system is now creating firewalls between parents and children when the kid turns 13 so that they can have private conversations with their

health care provider away from the parent. Evergreen, one of these healthcare systems in Seattle, has just announced that 13-year-olds get their own email address to talk to their healthcare provider so that they can have these private conversations. So you're saying the schools and the medical providers are encouraging kids to talk about gender issues they're having, changing their gender, and not tell the parents. Yeah.

Specifically, they don't tell the parents. Yeah, because what the narrative is is that the parents are evil, that they bully, that they are not understanding, and that they create then transphobia, right? So they use all of their words then against the parents to create all of these systems that separate children from their parents. Is this, you said they're just trying to get this passed in the school system? It's happening. It's happening.

I just read Virginia's new policies. You know, they've gotten rid of the father-daughter dance because that's not okay anymore. So I just want to, I'll stress this point one more time before we jump to this next relevant story is, if someone, a child who has not gone through puberty, has no experience of sexuality, how would that child understand they want to undergo a biological process to be or not be? It's, I don't know. I guess the argument, it's a similar argument the left uses.

One of the arguments we've seen from many of the pro-trans activists is that if a child is going to go through, say, male puberty, they don't know what it's like to go through male puberty.

Maybe they wouldn't like it. Therefore, they have actually argued that all children should be put on hormone blockers until they can choose. Right, right, right. And what they fail to understand is that there's actually prenatal testosterone plays a huge role as well.

And a child looking at dolls and action figures and dresses and blue jeans, those are not – that has nothing to do with your biological sex. But they want kids to undergo a physical biological treatment for a clothing or cultural issue. Yeah, and what's so disturbing to me is that growing up in India and then visiting, there's always been a difficult relationship with folks who are transgender. And I always had great empathy and still do to this day, of course. I think most people do with anybody who is in this world. Like, you want to live and let live.

The problem here is that this is an intrusion now, right, into the lives of children, into the lives of families, into the decisions of families, because I want everybody to be able to live peacefully and without harm, right? We all do. We don't want any kind of harassment, discrimination, bullying. But this is a new propaganda that is making it cool

and making it getting ideas in kids' heads that they otherwise wouldn't have because maybe they just want to wear blue jeans. Now let's go to this story that just happened over the weekend. I think this story may be this next story about the We Spa. Have you heard about this one? Oh, yeah. I mean, look, if these leftists really want to go here, and I think they have no choice, this could be, disgustingly, a bit of optimism for people who oppose this cultural Marxism

and critical race theory and critical gender theory. So we had this spa in Los Angeles. I don't know if you saw the video, Ian. No, I haven't. people who oppose this cultural Marxism and critical race theory and critical gender theory. So we had this spa in Los Angeles. I don't know if you saw the video, Ian. No, I haven't. There's a woman complaining to the desk that an individual with male genitalia was walking around in the spa in front of little girls, in front of women. This woman filming was complaining, saying, why are you allowing a man to walk around naked in the women's locker room?

And the clerk says, we cannot discriminate on the basis of gender identity. Some guy walks up to the camera and is like, it's a trans woman. It's fine. And the lady's like, that's no woman. You know, the lady's saying that's, you know, male junk. Like, sorry, I don't care. That's not transgender. So people actually are on the left defending the law that allows biological males to go into the women's side and get naked.

And there's a lot of really interesting arguments about this, but I believe this could be a very serious problem for these leftists. So Antifa shows up. This is a story from the Hill. Protesters clash in L.A. over transgender women disrobing in spa. Now, I'll say this. We don't even know if the individual is transgender. The default assumption is if a biological male goes to the women's locker room and disrobes in front of children, it must be a trans person. That's, in my opinion, horribly insulting to a trans person.

Perhaps it is true because the clerk said we can't discriminate on the basis of identity. But did anyone actually investigate? Because what if it was just some guy walking in and exposing himself? If there were testicles, it has nothing to do with gender identity. Yeah. It does.

That's balls. It doesn't matter. That's not gender. That's sex organs. That's not gender. It doesn't matter. The law is the law. They're allowed to use the women's locker room.

You're not discriminating on gender identity at that point. You're just discriminating on that there were testicles swinging. The law says you can't discriminate on the basis of sex. Oh, sex. Now that's a different. The law says gender identity is different than sex. It says in both. So this is where things get really interesting in terms of this argument.

So Antifa shows up and actually attacked people who were saying. Harassed the woman. Harassed. Right, right. Yeah. There was another woman who came out and said at the same spa a year earlier a a man with a beard and male privates got in the hot tub with her daughter now i don't is that person transgender i'm not going to make the assumption they are or aren't because i don't want to just in i think it's insulting to trans people to imply that

bearded dudes expose themselves to children must be trans. That's insane to me. There are trans people who are fantastic people and why would you immediately assume that someone doing this in front of children is just part of that community? We've seen individuals who have seen, I'm not going to name this person, but I think everybody knows

this individual is going in the bathroom, taking pictures, posting leaked messages, really disgusting, disgusting, abusive things. So now here's where it gets interesting. The law says, or I should say certain bits of precedence from the courts. They say that you are allowed to discriminate on the basis of sex so long as the same amenity is provided to both sexes. So in the instance of California,

there were individuals who sued over the women's only programs, like Women Learn to Code. And the court said, so long as the school offers up a men's program or a program that men can access, it's not discriminatory

to have women's only programs. That same logic applies to bathrooms. It is not discriminating on the basis of sex if there's a men's room and a women's room the interesting thing is the court's basically saying everyone is equal they get equal access but they're separate i see the problem with that argument that's what we saw back in in racial segregation they said it's not discrimination because everyone gets a bathroom. There's a black bathroom and a white bathroom. They're equal, but separate. Now, what's interesting is...

Now what's happening is they're letting folks cross over. Well, now, under that same premise, they're saying biological males, regardless, should be allowed to go into women's locker rooms. And kids' locker rooms. I mean, this is becoming the parent issue then,

you know, where moms don't really feel comfortable with this on an elementary school level. And that's where they push it too far. And instead of hearing people out and trying to understand why folks aren't comfortable, they call you transphobe or they call you racist if the person happens to be a person of color and trans, because this is what Ibram Kendi's taught them, that there's all these layers of intersectionalism that you can now call people when you smear them. During Occupy Wall Street, there was a really interesting conflict because somebody at Occupy Wall Street was raping a bunch of women. And they didn't want the police to come in because it could disrupt Occupy Wall Street. So they put up posters saying, avoid this man, avoid this man.

You know, wanted for these things. And they said, if you see him, throw him out, but don't call the police. So after a few of these crimes, in fact, one of the individuals who was raped was a trans man. And I believe the other was just a woman woman they set up a safe space for women they were like we're setting up a tent only women to keep them safe where they can go to be away this created a huge conflict because all of a sudden you had people saying first you had people saying it's discriminatory to say only women are allowed to be in the safe space. What if I want to be in the safe space? Right. They're like, well, too bad for you. Then women, feminists like the modern version said, well, trans women should still be allowed, even though they're biologically male.

Then the feminists, the gender critical feminists said, you can't allow biological males to a safe space for women who have been victimized, especially if they've been raped by a man. And the whole thing was just chaos. They ended up with like in one instance they had different working groups. One was the women's working group and one was the women's working group. But one didn't allow trans women because gender critical feminists were fighting with trans feminists. And the whole thing just became rather chaotic. And what's important, what were the years again that that was happening? It was 2011.

Yeah, and so just think that that was the battle. And that was- Ten years ago. That was all of this in the left community. And then you move fast forward to 2017. And remember the Women's March? Yeah. They wouldn't allow the Zionist feminists to come in.

Right. So this has been the direction. And nowists come in. Right. So this is this has been this. This has been the direction. And now we're in the schools. So like there you were fighting. You were experiencing it that back then. Twenty eleven. There's there's something happening in the UK with a group called Get the L out where they were there.

There are lesbians saying that trans activists are erasing lesbianism. It's a very interesting space to navigate because you have two marginalized groups accusing each other of being the oppressors, which makes this whole critical theory stuff meaningless. So the lesbians were arguing that when they go to young girls and tell them the things they're feeling mean they're trans and they should take hormones,

they're actually erasing lesbians by making them into men. And so their argument was, if someone is biologically female and likes biological females, they should be allowed to be biologically female and like who they like. But the activists now at these schools are prescribing hormone treatment, which very much changed their community, or as they said, erase it. Now there's something called the LGB Alliance, where they basically said,

it's not just about lesbians, It's about gay individuals, bisexual individuals. So they're basically saying get rid of the trans transgender from LGBT. Oh, interesting. So the whole thing has created this this this, you know, chaotic fight. Yeah. And it's it is spilling into our children's lives. Like we have to it's politically incorrect for a lot of people to talk about this. But it is, again, your child's life and future. And so this is very visceral, right? The reaction. Yeah. I think kids, um, take it for their parents. And when you, when you bring in external influences to start, um, sort of erasing the influence of their parents, you can teach kids

all sorts of crazy things. And I'll tell you this. I do not believe that these teachers have the child's best interests at heart. My experience, my evidence for this, I went to public school. I got to experience what it was like to deal with these teachers

who just don't care about you. And now to have them teaching this indoctrinating insanity, look, when these people talk about the public health instead of the personal health, we were talking to someone about this on the show. When they start talking about the collective and the greater good, they're basically saying they are utilitarians. They are willing to sacrifice you and your rights and your pursuit of happiness for their end game

because they think the world should be a different way, and they're willing to sacrifice you to get it yeah so i i love teachers right because it was mrs alkey in morgantown west virginia they gave me a just a little journal with no fist on the front that made me a writer and um and she was a white teacher and she didn't oppress me she wasn't the white supremacist trying to bring me down but we have to be honest like the nea resolution you read they are pushing this now like this is ideology this is indoctrination then there's another resolution that didn't get as much attention but it was a resolution by a school teacher in chic Chicago suburb. And there she wants to teach the anti-Israel, pro-Palestinian argument. And that's something that I know a little bit about.

And this is another one of the little books I brought, which is Angela Davis, one of their, you know, reading. Is she the lady who? She was the sort of 1960s activist that got into trouble. Got into trouble. Got into trouble. Put it lightly. Yeah, wanted to keep it neutral.

From Ferguson to Palestine. Oh, wow. All right, so this is the nexus. And that's what I know about as a Muslim. Like, I know that there is a intersection and they are using it to push agendas and to push politics. So NEA, on one hand, is pushing Ibram Kendi and critical race theory. And on the other, they've got a resolution. It might not have passed, but still the fact that a teacher thinks that she can introduce this resolution that's going to be anti-Israel and then basically push the propaganda of ideology that wants to destroy Israel from the river to the sea.

So that's happening too. Let's talk a little bit about why they're doing this. First, I want to show you this story. We have it from NBC5 Chicago. This is actually from January. Illinois Congresswoman, I'm not going to repeat what she said, but she said that there was one thing that the Nazis did that she think they understood properly. I'll make sure I paraphrase this because I'm not going to.

She said, I'm not going to read it. You can see it on the screen. This Congresswoman was heavily criticized for essentially making a statement that the Nazis were effective in a certain way, and that was targeting children. NBC says a newly sworn in congresswoman from southern Illinois quoted Adolf Hitler as she spoke outside the U.S. Capitol, saying the Nazi leader, she believed, got one thing correct. Rep. Mary Miller was speaking at a rally in D.C. when a Twitter user posted the video Tuesday showing a portion of her speech. What she was trying to say was that one of the goals of the Nazis was to target children so that they could erase the worldview of the parents. And through that, in about 20 years, they won.

Right. And they took over. Let me actually show you this. We have this article from mssu.edu. They say, Hitler's first act of business after the election was the revamping of the German education system to include extensive military training as well as anti-Semitic propaganda. He then could use this brainwashing of the children against rebellious parents. Quote, when an opponent declares, I will not come over to your side, he said in a November 1933 speech, I will calmly say, your child belongs to us already.

What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time, they will know nothing else but this new community. And there you go. Right. That's exactly what they're doing. Now, I want to let you know why I'm pessimistic.

You know, they tried to censor Hitler. It didn't work. Who did? What was it? In Germanyany there were efforts to and he was imprisoned you know he was that he was censored it didn't work he was able to indoctrinate people and children and gained power and became the fuhrer so interestingly we see all of these these these states saying they're going to ban critical race theory teachings. And I don't know if it will work. Telling a teacher they can't teach this, does that mean the teacher is all of a sudden going to be like, well, I can't quote anymore?

Are they going to be like, don't tell anyone? They're doubling down. I mean, that's what the NEA resolution is about. It's basically saying we're going to fight this and we're going to make sure that we teach it. And, you know, as you were reading that quote, I was just thinking back to, again, why I know that this is something that everybody's got to care about. Because when I was fighting the issue of how extremism came into my Muslim community, all I had to do is go back to this word that everybody's learned now, right, the madrasa, the religious school, that's where they grab the kid, they bring them in, they indoctrinate them. In our modern day, it was the Saudi government that was creating those schools in Pakistan, throughout the Middle East, and that's what created our Taliban, our jihadis of today.

And now, this has been our fight in that community against an ideology. And we have made progress. I want you to actually have hope because we do have rights in this country. We're taking them to court. In Fairfax County, Virginia, we've sued the school district for racial discrimination because they are targeting Asians and explicitly doing so. We have parents who are, there's, it was awesome. I love it. I saw Not My Idea as an exhibit in a lawsuit out of Illinois. You know, this is what we have to do because parents do have rights. We have right to privacy.

Your kid doesn't have to explain everything about their gender, their race, their sexuality. We have a right to information about the curriculum. So, yeah, we can do it. This book is amazingly terrifying and crazy. So this is the book, Not My Idea, you mentioned, a book about whiteness. So this was being taught to children, you said? It is, yep. Pennsylvania, Texas.

So I just opened up to one of your notes and there's one page. It says, Connecting means opening and opening sometimes feels. Our cars parked over here, love, like breaking. The next page.

Mom, I don't feel good. Uh-oh, should I pull over? Says the mom. And the next page, mom i don't feel good uh-oh should i pull over says the mom in the next page let me turn the page i need to know what's going on what are you talking about that's the mother saying that why didn't anyone teach me real history i do see color i see yours mine and everybody's you can't hide what's right in front of me. This is the child yelling. I know what that police officer did was wrong. This is the child speaking to the mother. Go with your instincts on this one. Racial justice is possible. Okay, geez, you don't have to yell. This is a book explaining to a child why to argue with your parents. What's really fascinating to me is how

it's the opposite of Christianity. Honor they father and they mother. This one is, the mom's like, what are you talking about? I don't understand. No, mom, you're wrong. I know what really happened.

Yes, and it's just this constant theme. I'm so glad you picked up on that page because that's the theme that the kid knows better and the kid is now taught by the teacher who's going to teach him better

than their ignorant parent. Now, here's where it all comes together because, sure, I referenced this educational piece about Adolf Hitler and what he did to children. The communists did the same thing. They wanted the children snitching on their parents. Yes.

So the parents would be sitting there reading the paper saying, Stalin, turn the page. And the kid would go, and then run to school. My dad said this. And then the dad's in the gulag. Right. Right. And so many of the parents that are in my the school that my son just graduated from they survived the cultural revolution and so they said

they watched kids snitch on their parents oh yeah and they see from they have traumatic memories back to that experience so i just searched it again It was 1966 to 1976 that the Cultural Revolution happened. Maoism then, of course, continued and has continued its tyranny. But this is what we're getting. This book's really quite an amazing piece of propaganda for children. In an earlier segment, the little girl is reading and it says, In the United States of America, white people have committed outrageous crimes against black people for 400 years. All along, every step of the way,

people who love justice and love each other have been fighting back. They take a morsel of truth. This country has its bad history, as do most countries. I mean, look at the history of any European nation and see the horrible things they did. Any nation.

But I would say any nation. Right. India has had tyranny by its own people. Countries in Africa have had tyranny in Latin America. What was it? The word slave comes from slav? Now, here's what's fascinating. What this book is doing is it's outlining what children should do

after they've been indoctrinated by the cult worshipers at these schools. After they start teaching the children these things and demonizing the country, demonizing their own parents, the book then goes on to explain how the child should yell at their parents about how they were lied to, how they don't feel good, how they do see color. They're going to indoctrinate your kids and then use books like this so the kids have a game. They're indoctrctrinate your kids and then use books like this so the kids have a game. They're indoctrinated not only on what to believe, but how to react to their parents

when their parents challenge them. Yeah. And what they basically are doing, for example, in a St. Louis suburb, the curriculum design person literally wrote a memo to the other teacher saying this is the stuff that you should hide from the curriculum wow online yeah wow yeah this is this book you got you should go to the whole thing right i mean look at the first page is when grown-ups tried to hide scary things from kids oh no not again what mom what not again she says who is that with their hands up why is that policeman screaming at him? As if to imply the parents secretly know what's going on, but don't tell their children. Right. And it's always a conspiracy of silence that the parents are perpetuating that the teacher

now will break. And of course, there are teachers, we're getting leaks from teachers all over the country. We have teachers who are just so afraid of speaking up. One great, one awful example, Portland, Oregon, a suburb, Beaverton. We got a leak from a teacher that they had an equity seminar. And at the equity seminar, one of their equity warriors, who's a teacher, told the others that they had to go along with all of this anti-racism or evolve and evolve or dissolve. Lose their jobs.

They should. Well... Walk away. Stop doing it. Yes. It's such a tragedy, you know, that there are people of conscience who really do not believe in any of this. And right now their livelihood is on the line

yeah we got a dark future heading towards us no we do not because we are fighting back that's what i want to tell you i am literally standing here like sitting here the embodiment of a mom who just captures you know the uh stories from morning till night. We do it. We are thousands of parents. You know, those school board meetings that you're seeing, it's happening because courage is contagious. Yes. Courage is contagious. Let's hope Bannon was correct.

When the parents see this stuff, they will step up and yell out. They are yelling out. But I will say there are a lot of people online. They say they're scared to use their real names. They're scared to use their actual photos. They're scared to speak up at work because they'll lose their jobs. People respond to me saying, Tim, you don't have kids. You have no idea what it's like. I'm not going to risk my family over this. Right. And my response is, but you are. When your little girl comes home calling you the bigot and the monster, when she turns 16 and she's reading

all of the stuff and she says you're evil you're evil and nasty and runs away and hates your guts when your child grows up grows up in a world being told that they're evil and an oppressor why would you sacrifice the the the world that your children are going to be inheriting but i get it i suppose people are scared and would rather put food on the table and have their kid grow up in a gulag for resisting than to actually stand up now and fight hard to succeed. I get it. It must be scary. I'm not going to pretend like I know what it's like to have kids. But I can certainly tell you, you've got a stack of books.

How many books is this? Fifteen? I know. And we left books back in the car, right, Lydia? There's a whole bunch of them. But the thing is, I wanted to tell you that the parents are figuring out ways. You know, what's happening is they are setting up Instagram pages like woke at da-da-da school, fill in the blank, and exposing what's happening. They're sending us secret tips, you know, and they do check the box that they want to be anonymous.

But they're getting the information out, the documentation. I wouldn't know about Not My Idea except that a mom wrote to us about it, you know, and said, this is messed up. So that's where, like, a single whistleblower, right, then allows us to share it with the world. And that's where every single parent, I think, has so much possibility of power, whether or not, you know, they take the big risks. Because there are some people who will take more risks than others and can, but I think everybody's got a role.

So do you want to tell people your site where people can send the stuff that they see? Yeah, please go to defendinged.org. And it's really simple form. Folks can fill it out. And we have moms working around the clock chasing down these tips. Awesome. So let's draw this conversation out of the schools and into what manifests in the real world. We mentioned this earlier on, this Gwen Berry, Olympic athlete,

goes viral because she's third place hammer thrower for the U.S. Olympic trials to join the team. She gets approved. And when the anthem plays, she looks all angry at the camera and,'t salute or doesn't put her hand on her heart. And then she puts a shirt on her head saying activist athlete. Just a few years prior, she was holding up the American flag with a smile on her face. We can see how this starts to manifest in the real world. We have a couple of these stories. First, squad member blasts July 4th celebrations. Black people still aren't free. This generated some controversy. Cori Bush, a Democrat, dismissed Independence Day Sunday as a holiday meant for white people

before claiming the land is stolen land and black people still aren't free. We also have Maxine Waters, who is not a new member of Congress, but for a long time, drags the Declaration of Independence on July 4th. Maxine Waters, would she have? Maybe she would have. But I kind of feel like she wouldn't have gone this far to criticize Independence Day were it not for the change in culture and the feeling that this is what you need to say to be accepted, to be approved of. Zuby, the rapper, has a thread.

And in it, he's like, here's some things I've learned over the past year or so. One of them is that people would rather be socially accepted than be right. People would rather sacrifice their principles if it means they will be socially accepted, things like that. Yeah. He's correct. Well, it's tribal, right? And so it's that concept that I had to struggle with within the Muslim community. When you dare to challenge the orthodoxy, you get thrown out of the tribe.

And we ended up, for example, in our community fighting for women's rights. My mom didn't get invitations anymore to the potluck dinners. And she said, I don't want to go to their potluck dinners. And so that's the sacrifice that you have to make. Yeah. This is very much. She was inspiring to me. This is very much a cultural revolution.

Yeah. And so this next story I want to highlight, just a few of these. National Geographic tweets that July 4th fireworks are racist. Smoke targets communities of color. Then we have this story, NPR decries Declaration of Independence as document with flaws and deeply ingrained hypocrisies. What are they working for the crown now? They want us to return to the British Empire?

One of the arguments made by many on the left is that if we never had independence, then the Slavery Abolishment Act of Parliament in 1833 would have actually pushed back and it would have caused the same level of conflict and strife and potentially even resulted in a war for independence or at the very least it could have put pressure on the crown to wait because they were like well we have these colonies that produce for us what you need to understand is that it may actually have been the american revolution which helped the uk end slavery in that if the crown was still taxing southern states and the states relied on slaves to produce, the crown may have been like, well, you know, we're making a lot of money over here. We can't just do it. Right. But who knows? We don't know for sure. But what I can say is when they come out with these nonsensical statements like fireworks are racist. Right.

What what's happening is they introduced Juneteenth, then they disparage July 4th. I think Charlie Kirk mentioned it was with Evanston, Illinois, that got rid of their July 4th celebration, but had a pride and Juneteenth celebration. Yeah. And so it's this indoctrination of ideas spilling now into popular culture, right? Like, what is it that you can wear? What is it you can't wear? How is it that you signal your what is it you can't wear how is it that you signal you know your amazing political correctness and so this is the politics spilling into everyday life and um i walked by the uh grocery store the cereal aisle and had the you know new cereal that's got all the multiple yeah right right yeah that's so weird the pride cereal yeah, new cereal that's got all the multiple, right? Yeah, that's so weird.

The Pride cereal. Yeah, the Pride cereal. I mean, so it's commercialization that's now chasing this new ideology, and we have to just use our critical thinking. Yeah, Kellogg's has a LGBTQ Pride Together cereal. Right. I'm not sure what it is. Is it just Froot Loops?

I don't know. Doesn't it seem like it? I know. That's exactly what it is. Is it just Fruit Loops? I don't know. Isn't it seem like it? I know. It's exactly what it looks like. Loops. That's kind of insulting. What the heck? Yeah.

I'm pretty sure it's just Fruit Loops. It looks like it, but it's got all the characters together. And it's really fascinating when you see all these corporations changing their logos. It's a really funny meme where it's a bunch of evil corporations from video games and movies with rainbow logos like Umbrella Corp. Yeah. They make the zombies.

Right. And the umbrella's got a rainbow on it. Right. And there's Aperture Laboratories, which is the experimenting on humans, and it's a rainbow. Yeah, we get it. The massive multinational corporations are on our side, apparently. Yeah. I mean, this is the term that they call woke capital, right?

The whole idea of the industry, corporate America. That's what I spent 15 years reporting at the Wall Street Journal. I loved covering marketing because marketing was basically propaganda. Isn't it interesting? Yeah. And propaganda is all this. I mean, you make it fancy. You make it colorful.

You make it read. You know, you confuse people. You end up and you end up selling your idea. We want to be optimistic that these conversations and the parents standing up will succeed. But I worry that the average person doesn't care at all. Now, the point Bannon was making was that these moms are the average person who are standing up being like, what is this? So perhaps I think the important thing is not necessarily to be optimistic or pessimistic, maybe just to be vigilant.

Right. Right. And pay attention. Yes. And stay focused and don't back down. Yeah. There's my favorite idea. Our president, Nikki Neely, said it on an interview a while ago that the price of freedom

is vigilance. Eternal vigilance. Yeah. Yes. And I'll tell you, it really hit home this 4th of July weekend. I went to visit my parents in Morgantown, West Virginia. Took my Uno cards because I was going to play Uno with my dad. Well, in the PTSA at the school from where my son just graduated, Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology, we had four parents seize the majority of the PTSA seats. And those four parents are

against critical race theory. They're for merit. And guess what? The president-elect is the first black president-elect chosen for the PTStsa and he's against critical race theory because he wants merit he doesn't want this like bigotry of low expectations who wants their kids to be told they can never succeed yeah so this weekend the minority party so to speak the people who want to push critical race theory and race-based admissions, they staged a coup. And they tried to basically unseat these parents who are trying to change the policy so that we can fight critical race theory in the school.

And guess what? We won. We won. We defeated a coup. And I do want to add a little bit of good news into the mix because we can talk all negative and get all down and people are like oh man but we got the story from fox walmart shoppers break out into star spangled banner over fourth of july weekend in viral video yeah the video is actually quite incredible it's just people shopping right when

all of a sudden everyone's standing around the aisles and they're singing the national anthem yeah and that's in our hearts you know know, that is so in our hearts. And we were, as parents, this weekend, I didn't get to play my uno. Harry didn't get to grill on time with his family. He was trying. But we were doing this because we love this country. And Yu Yan, she stood in Tiananmen Square to fight the oppression there. And this weekend, what did she do?

She created beautiful graphics with flags of America talking about defending democracy. You know, that's the fight. That's the vigilance. That's the vigilance that we're talking about. And if every parent does it in whatever corner of the school system that they're in, wherever you are in corporate America, wherever you are in your neighborhood, you know, HOA that wants to now rule what sign you can put and you can't put the blue line, you know, flag up and all of this stuff that you have to be vigilant and protect rights. I watched a little historical video about the Star Spangled Banner and what the song

actually means. And I think a lot of people probably don't know this because I certainly didn't. What does it mean with the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night the flag was still there? It was that as the bombs were exploding, the flashes of light, you could then see the flag just very briefly. And every time they would shell this town or the city or the fort, they would still see the flag standing. It couldn't be knocked down. And actually, as the story goes, it could be legend, but they say the shells were actually killing people. And the flag was knocked down several times.

Finally, after the battle was over, when they went back to the fort and saw the flag still standing, it was being held up by the corpses of the men who refused to back down. And every time the flag would go down, they would lift it back up as they were getting shelled and then die on the flag. That's what it meant. It meant that there was an oppressive authority that did not respect the will of the people. And the people of this country said,

we will not abide by this. We will fight for our freedoms. And now you have people who are using these morsels of truth, manipulations, lies, and constant negativity to try and take those freedoms away. Arguing, what, that it's bad that we had independence because the crown abolished slavery first. Okay, be like the UK, I guess, with no guaranteed rights.

Yeah. You know, they want to get rid of all these mascots and these names of people that they decided are on the incorrect side of history. But ultimately, we needed all of those folks to get to where we're at today. And maybe the journey wasn't perfect. Of course, it wasn't perfect. And there were injustices against all people. But you don't – the fundamental reason why I oppose critical race theory is because it rightly says that there was a hierarchy of human value, but it incorrectly now wants to bring a new hierarchy of human value to people. And that's just fundamentally immoral, unethical, and unacceptable, and that's what we have to fight. There is more good news.

It's also kind of bad news, but we've got some good news and some bad news. I got this story here from TimCast.com. San Francisco crime leads to reduced target hours. Not the biggest story in the world, but this is actually important. Because of the massive wave of shoplifting, Target and Walgreens have announced

they're going to be closing around 6 p.m. Could you imagine that? Before dark. Before you get out of work. Yeah. Or, you know, so you get out of work maybe at five, you're going to make it to Target in time to get your groceries. Probably not. But this is part of the death spiral. The quality of life is dropping so rapidly in San Francisco. So let me talk about what this means in terms of good news and bad news. Well, basically, what you have in San Francisco is praxis. What they love to tweet about, they love tweeting this. These leftists, these, you know, communists, these Marxists, they will show a video of Antifa beating some old person and they'll put

like a picture of a guy, the meme of the guy rubbing his face saying praxis. Like they love watching Antifa just brutally beat white people or something like that. Well, this is what it really looks like. San Francisco crumbles. 40% of San Francisco residents plan to leave due to quality of life, according to a poll. So here's the good news. The good news is these things don't work. And we still have a system in place where people can flee these things and their failures. And that will strip a lot of the power away.

It was perhaps easy in some of these places in Europe and in Germany because they were smaller, or there weren't very many places to go. I mean, look, Russia and the Soviet Union were very big, but the United States is very diverse in terms of ideology, and there's always a place to rush to because it's not sweeping from the top down necessarily. It's from the bottom up. So as San Francisco implements these failing policies, people just leave. Now, the bad news, the cities are failing, which is awful. There's crime. There's homelessness.

And then these people who vote in those politicians move to Texas, where there's a thread from this woman that it's actually really great. Michelle Tandler says, conservative Twitter is all over this. I highly recommend reading the quote tweets for a deeper understanding of how many in that it's actually really great. Michelle Tandler says, conservative Twitter is all over this. I highly recommend reading the quote tweets for a deeper understanding of how many in America view SF, the left, etc. This individual actually points out as a Democrat that the cities are very much in trouble.

Saying, you know, nobody is saying we are X percent up in this category. It's how they feel walking the streets. It's walking a stroller next to a tent that has a pile of bikes next to it. It's being screamed at or chased by someone who seems mentally unstable. What I'm seeing is that there is a big enough incident. It shakes people up if there is. It could be seeing a robber try to climb through your child's bedroom, being pulled off your bike, having someone chase you with a pipe. These incidents

shake people up and their friends too. Ultimately, I think the biggest responsibility of government is to protect people from one another. It is in place to protect us from assault, theft, robbery, etc. Right now, the criminal justice system in SF is not working. It is allowing people to get high on very powerful drugs and terrorize one another, neighbors, stores. It is allowing rampant theft, burglary, car break-ins. It is allowing mentally unstable felons to stab elderly women. What do people say in response to these threats? Where are you moving to?

I'm moving to Texas. No, don't. They're going to, and they're going to vote more of the same in. And change Texas potentially, right? Yeah. But people are moving with their feet, right? They're making decisions with their feet.

And I think at the ballot box, like, I am confident that this is going to impact, this issue is going to impact gubernatorial race in Virginia, any races we have this year, and then the midterm election. I should read some more of this. She says, my whole life I've considered myself a proud, liberal, progressive San Francisco Democrat. Today I am ashamed of my city. I see smug ignorance of the laws and of unintended consequences. Moral grandstanding, winning over data, logic, and facts. Radical candidates winning elections unopposed. Social justice warriors getting into government and wreaking havoc on neighborhoods, businesses, and children.

Why have we been asleep at the wheel? Where is our sense of civic duty, civic pride? Is this who we want to be? Perhaps. What these children are learning will be the shock to the system of the moms. Maybe seeing SF become a poop proliferator wasn't enough. I don't live in San Fran. I don't care what they do.

Then one day their kid comes home with this book and says, Mom, why did you lie to me? You racist. Right, right. Why did you lie to me about who I am and what I am? And I can't trust you. And it's not just a typical parent child debates or disputes. I mean, this is like essential to like the seat, you know, that's what they're basically teaching is parents have been deceitful. I mentioned this several times in the past week or so, but it is extremely relevant to this that I went to a skate park and there was graffiti, Black Lives Matter,

which was fascinating to me because the graffiti I used to see growing up was very anti-establishment, F the system, things like that. Well, what's so comical is all you have to do being an investigative reporter. I love to look at this thing called nine nineties, which are the IRS filings of 501 C three organizations. You look up black lives matter movement and they have millions of dollars in their coffers. They've

got, as we know, their founders have multimillion dollar, you know, homes and mansions that they're spending on. Follow the money. That's what I've had so much thrill doing, being a Nancy Drew in all these school districts, following the money. Because when you actually look at how they're spending their money and how they're getting wealthy off of it, they're just corporations, too. They are. These books, I would imagine. You said that state funds are paying for these books and so these authors are getting paid out.

Oh, absolutely, yeah. Jason Reynolds just got $8,000 for 45 minutes in Arlington, Virginia on a Zoom call. Wow. $8,000 for a Zoom call, wow. Almost $200 a minute. That's the grift. I love it.

I love when these leftists are like, so this is really funny. I got denied a home loan. I've talked about it before. Yeah, I heard. And so finally I tweeted. It was Navy Federal. Right. They sent me a letter in the mail with false credit information, which I'm very angry by.

And of course, as it goes in today's modern era, they will ignore you. They will not, you know, so I tweet about it knowing this is how you get their attention of course they responded immediately and a bunch of people mentioned how they wouldn't respond to them

because they don't have millions of followers or whatever but one person said Tim Pool is grifting he's just trying to get people angry at Navy Federal to make money or something

and I'm like what? who's got beef with Navy Federal? what are you talking about? but here's the point I'm trying to make not to rehash the old story these leftists are using grift as a preemptive shield to accuse

their opponent that of which they do in an effort to say oh he's only calling me a grifter because i called him out for it now he's trying to deflect right no the reality is if i wanted to make money why wouldn't i shill for amazon.com and Walmart.com and the massive NGOs? Why put myself in the outgroup, in the resistance, fighting against the machine? The machine is safe. The machine promises you treasure in exchange for your obedience. Yeah. So, you know, Twitter, Jack Dorsey gave Ibram Kendi.

He didn't have enough money already making $20,000 an hour. So he got $10 million for his anti-racism center. I mean, that's a lot of money, right, that could go into building schools, into developing programs. And sure enough, it didn't matter, though. He gets his $10 million one month, and the next month he collected $20,000 for an hour. Is this Jason Reynolds' guy? You said he got paid $8,000 for a zoom call was that uh state funds that he got that was arlington county public school money right across the border here your tax dollars at work your property taxes

at work yeah and then uh the kids got his book they got uh the 45 minutes with him. And who paid for it, though? You know who gave them the money? Amazon gave them money. So we got a tip because all of a sudden these kids were getting these books. And this mom's like, where do they get these books? So in this case, we discovered that Amazon's public affairs guy called the diversity equity inclusion guy at Arlington Public Schools, suburb of D.C., and said, we can get you hotspots. We can get you Wi-Fi. And the guy said, no, we want this book. We want 45 minutes on Zoom with this guy.

So they picked Kendi instead of Kindles. Just a minor correction. It's diversity, inclusivity, equity. Exactly. Die. I love it. I love it. We gotta rebrand it. Yeah, we gotta rebrand it. That's the game they play. Don't fight on their territory. It's called the Die Cult. I love it. It is the Die Cult.

And these guys are killing America. I want to call it Critical Race Praxis, but then we'll just call it CRP, but we can just call it CRP, but we can just call it CRAP. Yeah, there you go. We'll just call it CRAP. Critical race applied praxis. Well, race is RA, so the A can just be in there.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Basically, we've got to use their words against them. It's so important that we focus on that it's the praxis and not the theory that's being taught. They're not teaching about the theory. They're indoctrinating and making people behave with that theory as they study all sorts of stuff. So this is the theory, right?

Right here. This is the Bible. This is their, yeah, you love this. This is all of it. Oh, yeah. I love to back up Chris Ruffo because who was right on Joanne Reads Show. Kimberly Crenshaw is in there. And then who are you going to read from now?

I'm going to read Crenshaw. Yep. So she's the mother of intersectionalism, the one who decides that Zionist feminists are not feminist enough. Amazing. So I wonder if there's a little bit more context I could read, but I'll just read one very simple portion. It says, Principally organized by Kimberly Crenshaw, Neil Gatanda, and Stephanie Phillips, more context I could read, but I'll just read one very simple portion. It says, principally organized by Kimberly Crenshaw, Neil Gatanda, and Stephanie Phillips, the workshop drew together

35 law scholars who responded to a call to synthesize a theory that, while grounded in critical theory, was responsive to the realities of racial politics in America. Indeed, the organizers coined the term critical race theory to make it clear that our work locates itself in the intersection of critical theory and race, racism and the law. What does that mean? Critical theory is essentially a Marxist philosophy, oppressor and oppressed. And what the critical race theorists were basically saying was they didn't think Marx understood the realities of racism in America, that it was easy in this small insular country and homogenous country to say it's class, it's the wealthy and the poor, it's the worker and the bourgeoisie, it's the proletariat. In the United States, race plays this role. So they decided to take

that framework and apply race to it. So it is very much rooted in Marxist critical theory, ideology, etc. There's a bunch of other components to this as well. The Frankfurt School, it goes on. But when Joanne Reid says to Christopher Ruffo, it's not Marxist, it's not true, she's lying. Ibram Kendi said critical race theory is a huge component of his work in anti-racism and what it means. They're trying to hide from you what's really going on. Yeah, and so this book is published 1995, okay?

Long before any of this trickles down into our K-12 schools. And she had had the workshop that Tim just read about was in the 1980s at Harvard Law School with Derrick Bell. Oh, in fact, I could be wrong. I believe the Ford I read was from Cornell West. Oh, okay. All right, great. So Faces at the Bottom of the Well became, it's written by Derek Bell, the godfather of critical race theory at Harvard. Yeah. You want to check it?

I want to double check. So this argument that they've been putting forward that critical race theory is not taught in schools, one, it's being debunked now. It is Kimberly Crowe. Okay. Great. Great. It's good to check the facts. Kimberly Crowe, that's being debunked now. It is Kimberly Crumpton. Okay, great, great. It's good to check the facts. Kimberly wrote, that's the intro. But so it has been a long journey, you know, and it has been a long journey since the 1970s

when it was first formed. And in that workshop that you read, they were the architects of it in 1980s. The book gets published in the 1990s. And now, wow, what do we have? Notebooks and stamped workshops for kids. It's diabolical and it's genius because it's so insidious. But ultimately, it's evil. I mean, it really is evil. Let me show you the perfect example of how insidious it is. And

what do I mean by insidious? Slowly creeping, a nefarious takeover. What do you think when the left argues against this? They say, oh, critical race theory is not based on Marxism. They lie. Not being taught in schools. We've just proven throughout the course of this podcast that those are lies. We have the book right here. Critical theory is the base for critical race theory. It's obvious they call it critical race theory. Frankfurt School, Marxism, etc. They say that, you know, they're fighting racism. And here's one of my favorite lies.

This right here is from Chris Murphy. Chris Murphy is a U.S. senator from Connecticut with a million followers. Chris Murphy is either dangerously stupid, a cult member himself, or a grifter. He says, stop the woke mob with a photograph of civil rights. And they're saying, you know, here's one, you know, we demand, we demand an end to, what does it say, racial prejudice or something, or police brutality. UAW says, end segregated rules in public schools. Stop the woke mob. I'm pretty sure if you go to any intellectual

dark web, progressive or liberal, or conservative, and ask them do you agree with that sign, end segregated rules in public schools, they will tell you yes, of course we do. Why would we want to stop this mob of people we agree with? And here's my response.

A clown emoji highlighting UAW says and segregated rules in public schools. And a photo. I believe this was from Seattle. It could be wrong. Where they have a diversity, equity, inclusivity session for people of color. And next to it, for people who are white. They are segregating. This is what we are complaining about.

Share these things with your friends and family who don't believe you. But they're just trying to teach the history of racism, and Republicans are trying to ban it. No. We're trying to make sure that when they teach the history of racism, they don't encourage more of it like Ibram Kendi does. Yeah, and so we just filed a thing that you're allowed to do in this country that I don't even know about called a civil rights complaint with the Office of Civil Rights. It's with the Department of Education, and it was for Wellesley Massachusetts public schools so we all know about the tragedy in Atlanta of the women and men also who were shot and murdered right many of them Asian so Wellesley public schools this one school decides that they're going to have a healing space so you you always love your healing space, right?

And you'd like to go, you'd like to go, because this was a shocking story. White's not welcome. I mean, to be fair, you know, you and I are both Asian, so we should just make sure Lydia and I can't come with us. Exactly. Because you know what? It was not my idea. Oh, there you go.

Yeah. So I have in the car, you know, another incarnation of this that I didn't get to bring up. Oh, you should have brought it all in. It's for you in particular where they now have hoodies. White womanhood is white supremacy. Because they got to go after you. Well, actually, we... I'm screwed.

It's all my fault. We do have this other story. This is funny. Parents at exclusive $57,000 a year all-girls private Manhattan school that counts Gwyneth Paltrow and Kerry Washington among alumni reject apology after video mocking white women was shown to students.

They're going to keep doing this stuff. They are until people say no more. This is unacceptable. This is values that we don't believe. And they can't, the thing that we've learned is that you cannot be shamed because their tactic of silencing people is to shame you. And people have to be unapologetic in who they are and what they believe and not allow shame to silence them. That's why I like what you're doing. It lets people around the world really organize

to show what's crazy in their sector. Because if they come out one at a time, they get the vehemence, they get the target, and then they get shamed. Right. But if everyone's coming up together, we're in it together. Then you actually don't feel shame

when there's other people that are also feeling your vibe for the most part. You know, one of the biggest problems I think is that you look at the groups that are willing to stand up. It's just identitarians. You've got the alt-right who are going out and marching and getting attacked or whatever, or white nationalists and whatever will come out and they'll fight people. And not so much relative to the left. The left will go out with their you know surely in protest many of them wear masks don't want to know don't want anyone filming but in their workplace they'll wear masks that say like black lives matter they will take them off

they'll wear shirts they'll get in trouble say we don't care they stand up they yell they're secretly going into schools they are actively infiltrating government institutions right and so what do you end up with regular class, classically liberal-minded Americans, people who believe in the founding fathers, aren't doing all that much. Oh, yeah, we are. We're fighting. I am one of those people. You know, I am always voted Democrat. I am a liberal.

I'm classic liberal, a feminist. You know, all of these quote identities. And I'm fighting it in the same reason why we fought in our Muslim community and keep fighting for reform of those bad ideas, because these are ultimately bad ideas. It's starting to come up. I think it's cause for hope and optimism, especially, you know, with the school season coming up, we'll see how things play out because it really did explode over the past year. But what I mean to say is you'll see Antifa go out and beat people. You'll see in some circumstances. There was one recent thing I guess happened in Philadelphia where some group came out.

I don't know a whole lot about it. But you don't see moms marching against critical race theory in the streets maybe yet. So maybe that change needs to come this year and then maybe we'll see it in the next spring or fall. Yeah, stay tuned. Stay tuned. Needs to happen. Yeah. You know, more people need to be at work and say no to these racist programs.

Yeah, when you get, you have to, you know, choose their new buzzword. Affinity group is their new buzzword, right, for segregation. You have to say no to it. And you have to say that i don't believe in segregation and you know this taking men out of lockheed right for their white supremacy retraining camp like they have to say no to this yeah did you see the sacramento public school system document where they said they were want they wanted white children to form white affinity groups to understand their history and shared culture oh yeah i'm like that does not sound like anti-racism.

Right. I suppose it does sound like anti-racism. I guess anti-racism is just code word for being racist because they support the same things. Yeah. I mean, it really is racism. Like anti-racism is racism. Critical race theory is racism.

Like that's where we have to be straight up about it. Anytime you judge people by the color of their skin, it's racism. It's like flammable and inflammable. Right. What? They mean the same thing. Right. Exactly.

And, you know, the real hope that I have is that people are running for school board races now, that strategy that they had to bring people into local office. Parents are picking that up. They're doing it. Don't you love it that the school systems, the educators, they're getting angry at parents because we're filing Freedom of Information Act requests. They're like, oh, no, how dare you actually use your right as a citizen to demand contracts and curriculum.

And so they're going after parents for that, but the parents are doing it. They're filing these requests. I think it's time we start calling them critical race application practice sessions. Yes. We can maybe do a little bit more. Right, right, right. Craps. Craps.

Craps. Craps. I don't know. Maybe that's bad because craps is a fun game at this point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crap only, not craps. I'm into it. Critical race, praxis.

I like the praxis word. Yeah. Because critical race theory is not racist. Studying critical race theory isn't racist. You're studying the tenets of critical race theory. You're learning it. You're learning it. But integrating the praxis into your behavior is inherently racist. I got it. Call it critical race

in practice. Yeah, that's a nice one. I like that. And see when all the gang members are like, nah. You see that video from the salon where this Mexican dude, I guess, was fighting and people were saying that he was like a gang member or something like that and i'm like i don't know if that's true or whatever

there might be people being racist because the guy was like mexican they were like he's a gang member because he's bald or something like that right but i i do know that um in chicago a lot of the latin kings very religious and i have to imagine a lot of the older you know members are not going to like what they're doing what they're. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's so much Kool-Aid that they're forcing kids to drink. And what parent wants that? Because especially if you have a pride in your identity, you don't actually want people to start saying that you are the oppressed, right? Like you are trying to actually teach your child that you are empowered and you can do whatever you want to do. And so there's a mom named Norma.

She came from Peru and she is just so angry that they are making such assumptions about Hispanic kids. You know? Yeah. She's like, this is insulting. And I don't, I don't, she says, I don't hate Asian kids that might be going into this school. I actually learn from them. Like, what is it that their parents are teaching them about good values? There's this viral tweet, I guess, where someone said that English is the colonizer's

language and to speak Spanish or whatever. People are like, uh, Spain? Like, what are you, what are the conquistadors dude right brutal yeah and you know there's such myopia in this telling of quote truth a few weeks ago i went to one of the protests by the social justice educators of dc oh my yeah and there they were chanting, like a cult, I pledge to teach the truth. And it's their truth. That's the problem. Some people are saying critical race at practice.

Nice, I like that. Crap sessions. They're teaching crap to our children. Don't call it crap. No, no, no, it's critical race at practice. I love the creativity. Because basically we've got to, how do you dismantle propaganda, right? Play by the rules?

Yeah. Make better propaganda, yeah. Yeah. Counter propaganda, right? When I was at the skate park, I mean I see these little kids and they're sitting and they've got all this graffiti propaganda of Black Lives Matter and other woke nonsense. And then me and my friends started laughing about like what loser is going to come out here and be like, Walmart, what up? Like I'm repping walmart.com. And the kids there hear us mocking the ideas.

That's what you need. You need to go there and basically be like, I'll tell you what happens. You go to a skate park and you see a bunch of kids and the alpha kid, you know, the kid who's good is going like, yo, Black Lives Matter, yo. But then when a pro shows up, someone who's older and really good and they do a tray flip crook down the 10 rail that all the kids are like oh and then he starts making fun of the kids for their stupid propaganda those kids will change their tune in two seconds yeah but then that that pro has to have the courage right to be able to do that and they don't the challenge is then they're afraid

of losing their sponsorships their endorsements and all the rest all it takes is for some um charismatic individuals to be there to to be inspiring young people and telling them to get away from that propaganda you don't even got to be doing trey flip i listened to your interview with candace owens and she said and you said also that you get so many phone calls, right, and so many conversations with the, quote, A-list that is afraid to come out of the closet in their criticism, but they believe it. They counter this belief. I was invited to a couple A-list or Hollywood parties, and I was like, why would I go to this? They're like, oh, man, it's low key, you know? You don't got anything to worry about.

And I'm like, I don't have anything to worry about. It's you guys. You're scared to speak up. Right. It was like TV show A-list. It wasn't like, you know, Robert Downey Jr. or anything like that. It's like a bunch of people who are in prominent shows

were going to be at this Hollywood party. And I was just like, I, the idea that, you know, with all due respect, I'm going to come out and have a good time and laugh and, you know, break bread and have a beer with you guys. When you're sitting here saying we completely agree, but we will never defend you publicly. I'm like, I'm not cool with that. Yeah. Yeah.

And it is tough. Like, I just surround myself with folks who are challenging this kind of ideology because I don't want to be dragged down by people who are just hemming and hawing and cowardly, really, in society. Like, I get it because I've reported in Pakistan and in Afghanistan, you know, and Saudi Arabia where extreme identity politics kills, right? And I really fear for America, like we are headed in that direction. And I don't want that. Like, when you were talking about the target closing at six o'clock, I thought to myself, man, that's what happens like in war zones, right? That's what happens. That's what would happen in a country like Pakistan because it's dangerous after dark. And that's where sectarianism kills.

And all the immigrants from Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, they understand the dangers of this. China, Eastern Europe, right? Let's read some super chats and see what the audience has to say. If you haven't already, give that like button a little tap, show your support. Subscribe to this channel. Share the show with your your friends and get your super chats in we're going to start reading as much as we can and uh we'll we'll read your opinions on critical race at practice or crap as it's called yeah that's right nayslayer says i'm dubbing july 5th through november 10th gadsden flag appreciation season fly it to show your red pilled status between

independence day and veterans day i put my flag out this morning someone sent me the ancap gadsden flag oh it's really cool but i'm gonna ancap but i still like the flag so i'm like i'm gonna put it up i guess half black it's black and yellow oh it's so it's yellow and you know it's like it's split in the middle sweet and i'm like you know it's a good flag i like the gadsden flag we need a flag nice yeah rodzilla this is an earlier super chat. It said, they are not teaching CRT. They are applying it. Applying its principles.

Oh, critical race applied principles. Great. There we go. It's just crap all around. It's picked up. That's right. Yeah. They are implementing critical race applied principles.

They are implementing crap. Implementing crap. That's right. They are flushing crap down your children's throats. This is how great ideas are born. That's right. They are flushing crap down your children's throats. This is how great ideas are born. That's right. This is it right here. It happened.

Critical race applied principles. Yep, yep. There you go. Beautiful. I like it. Cecil Rhodes says, the leftists are so extreme that normies are starting to notice en masse,

looking for an answer, and the right stands waiting with that solution. Yes, perhaps. All right. I'll fight you naked says the woke are creating a backlash of white racism to counter their anti-white racism when they have sufficient numbers the woke will turn to the rest of us and unironically say we told you they are racists we will say no you made these people as a meme that goes around where it's a bunch of people who are white being yelled at and demonized. And then all of those people then stand next to each other and then they yell at them, why are you forming a racist group?

Wow. An affinity group. Oh, yeah. And it is creating division. That is what I know and I can see and fear amongst people that would never have even questioned each other's relationship. Isn't that sad? Yeah. The Civic Nationalist says,

I would like to say a good Fourth of July, despite being belated. Even though I am notoriously pro-monarch, I think that the U.S. is the embodiment of Locke's ideas and how it can work. God save the Queen and God bless the USA. Much respect to Civic Nationalist. Perhaps what needs to happen is

the good Locke-inspired Americans should storm the beaches of... What's a good beach in the UK? I don't know. I don't know. London Dover. Newquay. I've been to Newquay.

And liberate you from not the crown, but from the lack of a written constitution and the oppression of these, I guess, I don't know, a crappy parliament. Yeah. I don't know. We got some of our own issues. Yeah. I want us to fix America. Miles Kinslow says, hey, guys, there is a woman named Gabrielle Clark fighting CRT with

a landmark case. Please hear her story. We'll appreciate it so much. Absolutely. She's a mom in Nevada and her son is multiracial. That's right. Yeah. I remember this story.

And he had to choose there in the classroom, you know, and was white passing. And so he had to carry the sins of whiteness upon his back. And thank goodness she fought back. She filed a lawsuit and she's fierce. Let me look it up. Yeah. Right on. Internet's acting up a little bit, but we'll read anyway.

Arsian says, Tim, as an interracial man, did you ever experience racism from your Asian side of the family against your white side? Many Asians are racial purists. Not in my family, although I hear that down the family line, racism was prevalent in the Asian side of my family. But I think it's prevalent everywhere. There's only so far back I can go in the Korean side of my family. But... I think it's prevalent everywhere. There's only so far back I can go

in the Korean side of my family, though, because of the war and because of, you know, the splitting of Korea and everything like that. So not a whole lot I can say to that. You go back two generations, pretty much everybody was racist. Yeah, I mean, what I find really offensive intellectually about the argument

that white people have a monopoly on racism is that we know in every other part of the world that racism exists. Brown people against black people, black people against brown people, black people against white people. I mean, it just goes on and on in circles. It's just power. It's power. We got a bold one. Raptor's Talon. He's heated. He says, I warned my parents about CRT. Well, just to clarify real quick, it's critical race applied principles. I told my family that this was coming.

And what did they say? Oh, that will never happen in Oklahoma. Oh, that won't happen in our school. Well, how about now? I told everyone how the stupidity was infiltrating the school system. All the while, these SOBs said I was overreacting. Have fun. This is all caps, by the way. Yeah, it's all caps.

I know how you feel, man. I've repeatedly warned about certain things that have happened and people don't pay attention. You just, you gotta say, look, you said this crap wasn't gonna happen, but this crap is happening. I mean, you just gotta tell them.

Yeah, and you just say, I was ahead of my time and you've gotta pay attention to me now. You know what you do? It's really, really simple. Get him a copy of that crazy book. No, no, no, no, listen, listen. When you approach these people who are indoctrinated as their enemy, they lock down.

You approach them as a friend. It's all about the tone. The three principles are rapport, extreme, and turn. In this instance, I'll give you something very simple. You say, we're here to teach people about the history of racism. These Republicans, they're so awful. We're going to be teaching people about critical race applied principles. And so we would like your kids to come to this session.

And then literally, we are teaching CRAP. And when they're like, wait, it says you're teaching our kids crap. You go, oh, well, I mean, don't call it that. Right. Crap therapy. And then when they're like, what? But you got the idea. This is going to happen on your roadshow.

This is what I envision. You're going to expose crap everywhere. They're teaching crap in schools. It's about time. Critical race applied principles. Yes. It's funny because that is a better way to describe it. It is.

Critical race theory is like a legalist's analyzing of the law. Right. But what they're doing is they're applying its principles. So the schools are implementing CREP, critical race applied principles. Yeah, that's good that you chose that, too, because the practical definition, the literal actual definition of praxis is the application of a theory as an applied principle. Yeah. Perfect. Exactly.

It's perfect. It is. You got it. We nailed it. CREP. They are teaching CRE crap to our children. Which actually goes back to Thomas Crapper, who invented the toilet, I believe. Oh, yeah?

I'm going to have to get back to that. That's right. A white supremacist, if I ever saw one. Naturally. Yeah. All right. Gabriel McLeod says, CRT seems to imply that a society has made no progress. If that were true, we would not be able to identify how absurd it is when juxtaposed

against objective reality. The point of CRT is not to have a discussion as discussion leads to resolution. Just for moving forward, I'm going to replace all instances of CRT with CRAP because I want to make sure

we're being accurate. And I know it's funny that we're making fun of it, but in reality, I've said, when you mention they're teaching critical race theory in schools, they say, what book have they ever brought up by Derrick Bell or Kimberly Crenshaw? You're lying.

It's because they're teaching crap. Critical race applied principles. They're just hiding the, you know, ball, so to speak, and we have to call it out. That's right. Black Rock Beacon says, just moved from PA to Florida. I had to have the talk with my young daughter about how public school is a tool to indoctrinate her in radical ideology,

destroy her individuality, and turn her into an obedient worker in the tax mines for the elite class. Wow. Yes. And what I say is, you know, get some of these bad books also and read them yourself so that share it with your kids so that they can be

educated about how they are going to be miseducated. Right. So they have self-awareness. Yes. Cult Wareth says, these critical race theorists, I wish I could make them see the path, but tempting as that sounds, I'll have to pass. Oh. Well, I do think you need the full context of that quote for it to

apply here properly because this way it just kind of sounds like you're saying you're not going to even bother trying to talk to people but for those are not familiar it's actually a lyric for my song where it's i wish i could save them and make them see the past make them see the path but tempting as it sounds i'll have to pass i know what's needed for the good of my people to save them so the line is basically saying instead of teaching people to save them. So the line is basically saying, instead of teaching people what... The line from that song is the critical race theorist. It's the indoctrinator saying,

instead of explaining it, I'm going to lie, cheat, and steal because I know what's best for everyone else. But I appreciate the call-out. The ends justify the means in the mind of the psycho. If you haven't already seen it, you should check out Will of the People by Tim Pool. You can search for it on YouTube.

You'll find it. It's a song. Almost a million views. We're going to break a million views soon. That's fantastic. It's also on Amazon and iTunes. I have one song that's published, but I have like 50 billion songs we've never published. Coming soon.

That's great. Yes. Really good ones. Gregory Nicholas says, critical theory is infecting FL as we speak. Through South FL Chamber of Commerce. Tim, how should one report or document what they see? Through the Chamber of Commerce, he said. So where is South FL?

What is he talking about? South Florida. Oh, it's just South Florida Chamber of Commerce. So, you know, what I say is that folks have to expose and educate the community. If he sees it and he doesn't want to go on record about it, he needs to call the local reporter and show them this story. Tell them I'm a whistleblower. I want to be not for attribution. Do you know what I'm saying? Like you got to use the means that are out there. If he has the ability, he can write his own column for the local paper and expose it. You know, that's what I'm saying. Like what you guys are doing, too, with your journalism vision, right,

is empower people to be able to spread the truth as we see it right before our eyes. I'm looking forward to that dispatch out of South Florida. Yes. Logan Culver says, Tim, I can no longer type in chat. I got a notification that says I can't because I subscribed to this channel while watching a video made for kids. Weird. Have you tried unsubbing and then resubbing maybe?

He says I get an error when hitting the notification bell. WTF is going on. I call it pressure. It's not banning someone, but you put your thumb on the scale to make it harder, and then over time, the channel dwindles and dies, not because you banned it, but because you're strangling it slowly. It seems to have something to do with the setting where now you have to

be subscribed to the channel to chat, to type in the real-time chat. It was the day we turned that on is when people started getting that message. Yeah, but that's clearly not an issue that's supposed to be happening, so YouTube's going to say it's an error. Obviously, but that's clearly not an issue that's supposed to be happening. So YouTube's going to say it's an error. Obviously, it's affecting some channels and not others.

Very weird. Yeah. Yep, yep. All right. Sonny James says, Will someone tell me the difference between Marx and Hitler, besides minor details? Both believed in centralized control of the banks.

One believes in the Aryan, the other in the Ubermensch. The language for totalitarianism is here, essential and non. I mean, they have their similarities and their differences. That's why I say it's really dumb when people compare everyone to someone else. When they're like, you're a fascist or you're a commie, it's like, bro, whether or not they determine the state should provide you health care is less relevant to the fact they're going to throw you in a camp and execute your family.

Marx was very wealthy. He was born super wealthy. I know that. Hitler was born, I think, of modest means and served in World War I, basically had his psychology, his mind blown out, running from trench to trench. He had like, what do they call that? Shell shock. He was like nuts after World War I.

So they were very different in that respect. Yeah. But I think I also don't get lost in, you know, some people want to play like who was the first philosopher, where's the roots of all of this, especially for moms and dads. I think the bottom line is this is crap and we are not going to accept it today.

Like that's how complicated it has to be. I did tweet about this i said uh critical theory is extremely complicated they made it that way on purpose they do not want you to understand what they think the only thing you need to say is uh heck no right you just need to say no you need to learn to recognize it and just say no right exactly you don't get into their game don't yeah don't play on their turf critical Critical race applied principles. That's right. V Radio says we need to get this guest on Joe Rogan. Ooh. Oh, well,

sure thing. Ian, could you go on the roof and turn on the Rogan signal? Right, exactly. I know. I didn't know you guys had the bat cave here. Yeah. MSKGWD says, great show, Tim. I'm especially excited to see tomorrow's podcast men have

chosen their paths after awakening to the dynamics of this modern society oh interesting doobie mcnaz he says dr kellogg was a twisted dude i'm not surprised the company took that step his whole mission was to change that the people change the people live and think yeah the the invention of cornflakes do you know why he invented Corn Flakes? Yes, I do. No. I don't. He didn't want little boys to be, you know.

Exploring? Just, you know, kind of sinning in private, if you know what I mean. What? Going blind. So he thought that Corn Flakes would stop that, I guess. Did it? No. Are you kidding?

Yeah. They now teach it, you know, in elementary school. Yeah, they do. They actually teach it. They know, in elementary school. Yeah, they do. They actually teach it. Come full circle. Yeah, we're so advanced now, aren't we? Yeah. That's great.

Black Rock Beacon says, Navy Fed sold me a house, closed the contract. I moved in. Then after 30 days, they nulled the contract and kicked my active military family out the week before Christmas. No lawyer would take the case, even though they all agreed it was very illegal. I mentioned this when I got denied for the loan because they sent me false credit information. That's why I'm like, this is serious. I think it's illegal. You can't do that. But I mentioned I was wondering if they were insolvent.

If the reason they're lying to get out of a small loan is because maybe after this past year, a lot of people are like, the banks are flush with cash, Tim. It's not true. I'm like, well, maybe not this nonprofit, this credit union. Some other people tweeted something similar, that based on their experiences getting rejected or denied, they also thought maybe they've got more liabilities and assets in there in serious trouble. And I'll tell you this. I reached out to them, and I said, I want this corrected, and they ignored me. I'll put it this way. I hate the idea that in modern society you have to have a massive following

to be able to get any attention from massive corporations. That's not right. So the least I can say is there's a lot of people complaining about similar things, and hopefully this does something about it. Did you ask them if they were racist? No. You can always throw that card out there.

Interesting. As soon as the Korean guy comes in. Yeah, that they probably would have listened to. Instead I was like... I'm an honor book. You guys insolvent? You can't afford... It's not even a big loan.

Yeah. Michael Malone says, Love your show, Tim. Would you consider having Jack of the Survival podcast on your show? Imagine Michael Malice being a survival expert and a duck farmer in Texas. That would cover a couple of layers of Jack's personality. Sounds hilarious.

Perhaps. We'll take a look into it. Zach Wilkerson says, your analogy to the rise of the Nazis in the 1930s is not correct. I was just watching a documentary about Hitler's rise to power and was getting spooked by the similarity of our situations. Oh, it's not incorrect. Yeah. Yeah, right. So I saw some tweets where people were like,

you know, they tried to censor Hitler and ban him and it didn't work in the long run. And I see what's going on with banning critical race theory and I'm wondering if it'll work in the long run because even if, oh, you know what? Let me rephrase this. I'll start from the beginning.

Conservatives are not cool. Institutions are not cool. Politicians are not cool. Celebrities are cool. So the schools can say, we're banning this stuff and you know what's going to happen? Right. The people teaching this

can say, see? We were right. We told you this would happen. They don't want to admit their privilege and their power. And then the kids who are spray painting and markering up Black Lives Matter are going to see these celebrities being like, dude, the machine is fighting back. Keep fighting. We're the resistance.

Amazon.com. Yeah. That's what's happening. That is exactly what's happening because they are turning the parent movement into a, quote, right-wing conspiracy. They're dismissing sincere folks who are disturbed by these bad ideas. And then meanwhile, they now become the victim because of these laws. And so this is what all bad ideas have to be defeated by better ideas. And so ultimately, we don't think that banning will solve this problem.

But we have to get enough people to decide that these are really bad ideas. All right. Mr. Mocha Lover says, I'm a small YouTuber that was live streaming a game called Hearts of Iron 4 yesterday. And the mod I was using had you leading your own small nation in a broken up usa your portrait in game gives you quite a thick beard can you grow one of course i can't grow a beard i'm part korean that's apparently why i guess that's rude and grow a neck beard uh it's the uh archie mcgear archie mcgear is saying he says god bless tim and crew ave maria as a liberal entering the traditional self-sustaining lifestyle, what is your opinion

of us traditional Catholics and other religious folk living this way for decades? Like, oh, like having chickens and stuff? Smarter. It's better. Big families. All the liberal climate change people who don't do this, I think, are hypocrites because it's fun. It's easy. It's cheap. You save money. It's healthier.

It's better for the environment. Everything that they preach can be solved by getting out of the cities, still being close enough to commute with an electric bike or even a bicycle or taking public transport. But for some reason, they claim we've got to do all these things, but they still want to live in these crowded, polluting cities. Right. I know. I grew up in rural America, basically, and I just don't understand why we have to crowd our cities anymore. You know, I walked down High Street in Morgantown, West Virginia yesterday and just thought, wow, let's invest in these sidewalks and these shuttered shops, right? This is America. right this is america brian b says within days of george floyd both the nj and nea teachers union sent out emails about usa being white supremacist and sent out crt teaching materials right about a

month ago they sent an email for summer workshops by ibram candy and nicole hannah jones exactly they were ready the author of the 1619 project if listeners don't know yeah yeah kim jung pone says my kids are almost school age we're pretty well off and can move anywhere currently in a liberal city is homeschooling the only way advice we've seen elements of crt in every in every decent private and public school we've toured yeah homeschool pods maybe yeah i mean mean, that's the choice that parents are making now. And these school systems are going to suffer because ultimately the best and the brightest are going to be choosing differently. They're going to be having even greater equity gaps because kids and families that can't have choices. And they don't care, though, because this is all in pursuit of their their very fake anti-racism agenda sunny james says before america institutes critical race applied principles

most americans mainly the far left are most are most ignorant to race there's three distinct groups that splinter off i'd be banned for naming but fyi most, most Caucasians aren't lily white. I always found it really weird that Caucasian is like when you're listing race, like from the Caucasus region of Russia or something. I'm not from the Caucasus. Yeah, I know. It's really weird. Like, is Anglo-Saxon not an option? Yeah, and being from India, you know, we're supposedly the original Aryans, right?

Like, this is the confusion about so many of these words and these identities and these names. But what's the greatest tragedy now is that this is what people are seeing, right? Instead of the human being. Right. Yeah. Danny Douglas says, Tim, can you please put Will of the People

up on Spotify? Love it. It is on Spotify. You need only search for Will of the People by Tim Kess on Spotify, and you can listen to it right now. Duh. It's on iTunes as well. I think it's on every... I think it's on Pandora, too.

I don't know. Whatever. It's weird. iHeartRadio? I'm pretty sure it's on all of those. Yeah, definitely. Critical race applied... Big Papa Zo.

Critical race applied practice. Crap zo. Critical race applied practice. Crap. That's right. Yep. Crap. It's catching on. Janola says, is Marxism, but without its only good thing, anti-corp? That's what's funny, right?

Because I actually think there is an issue between classes, right? There's the ultra-wealthy exploiting the poor. I think critical race theory is their tool to deflect from it. Yeah. It's such a tragedy. I mean, you can see it anywhere and everywhere, right? And that is what I knew growing up in West Virginia, is that the white families were really some of the most disenfranchised in this country. And that's why, as a person of, quote, color, I reject the idea that it's only the whites that are oppressing others.

This is great. Okay. Kendrick Leist says, Educators are teaching critical race applied practices for diversity, inclusivity, and equity. Eat crap and die. Right. That's great. I love it.

That's great. Make 1984 Fiction Again says, Hope Jimmy Dore's watching this because he denies CRT being taught too. Egg on face. Jimmy, you're great. Check out the show on critical race theory and pay attention to these books that are being taught to kids.

Jimmy's awesome, by the way. He's a cool dude. Robert Adams says, You need to believe that every person is responsible for their own actions every other form of government is just putting lipstick on the same pig

poor pig Erin says four people died in the battle for Fort McHenry I heard the same recording recounting the bodies holding up the flag

in the fire academy it's bunk that's why I said it's probably legend apocryphal it's apocryphal but the mythology is still inspiring, right?

Because ultimately that's the kind of symbolic sacrifice that many people have to make. Well, that evokes the image on Iwo Jima when the soldiers are holding up that flag. It's very resonant with the American people. But to clarify, you're saying it was a lie and it is war propaganda. That's what this individual is saying. But, you know, we have our opinions. Just kidding. I love you, United States.

It could be apocryphal. War propaganda, maybe, too. All right. Josh Branca says, hi, Tim and gang. I believe you keep mispronouncing cult and culty. The L is actually pronounced as an N. Yes, I'm from Australia. Also, can we get a crossfire with lids and a radical feminist?

That'd be cool. That'd be fun, yeah. I don't know if I'm up for it. Abe Eckstein says, hashtag band crap should be trending on Twitter. Nice. Yes. BlackRockBeacon says, I'm in NFL, but willing to work with folks in South Florida to get that story out. Find me on

Mines, M-I-N-D-S. I'll work with you to push it out i might be a small channel but i'm independent and stubborn very cool black rock beacon and feel free to write to me i have open dm on twitter so i'd ask for no money you guys people reach out from all over and i'm happy to edit an op-ed anywhere awesome yeah right yep dk says online is not the same as irl i do speak out in real life online is far scarier because the mob is terrifying yeah yeah it's true cb says praxis means activism they can change the words of critical theory and still requiring allied praxis from the students that That's right. Slippery.

Blip Squeak says, Tim, quote, wanted little boys to stop, you know, guessed, quote, now they teach it in schools. Ian, quote, we've come full circle. Right, indeed. I mean, it's creepy stuff, you know, what's going on with a lot of this... It is. Like, what they're doing with

kids is... I didn't know all these books were in the school. This is like a shock to my system. Like know all these books were in the school this is like a this is like a shock to my system like i'm the frog in the pot and i just got a spark yeah i'm glad i'm really glad that it was effective because in our brains right there has to be something that shocks us in order to know that it's a reality and so if this worked then that's great because it it was just an email from the principal that woke me up you know that it's a reality and so if this worked then that's great because it it was just an email from the principal that woke me up you know that's like that's just these aha moments that folks are getting when they're like oh wait they're coming after me you know and then it becomes real and

personal and then you see how wide it is and how big it is i want to i want to read this one from kevin kelly says went to jersey city to see one of my friends for the first time in a while to find he went from a centrist to far left apologist. Got in an argument over guns. Any advice on deprogramming propaganda? That's tough. It's difficult.

There are psychological tricks, but the challenge is are you willing to use manipulation? And that's the challenge. Because I certainly know how to deprogram propaganda, but it's a method to manipulating someone's worldview. I'm not a fan of that. So ultimately, I just say, here's the truth, accept it or don't.

Share this video with someone. And if they don't believe it, I don't know what to tell you. Because if you believe the ends justify the means, you're doing exactly what they're doing. You will never meet the ends because if you live in a world where you're allowed to use nefarious tactics to get what you want, nefarious tactics will never stop being used because everyone will just be like, well, you did it. I'll do it too. When will you ever actually come about that utopian ideal? Unfortunately, I don't think you will. All right, let's see. We got a couple more here.

Jason Q2 says, the original blueprint or archetype regardless if you believe it to be mythology or not was the critique of god's kingdom by lucifer to draw away a third of the angels critiquing and attacking a power structure while instilling your own that's creepy yeah manipulation yeah since the beginning of time. We'll do one more. Jasper Rollins says CRT is predicated on atheism. I'm sorry. Critical race applied practices or crap. The letters in atheist

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