Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #332 - Biden Admin Calls For Extreme Censorship Cross Platform w/Forrest Cooper

Episode Date: July 17, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join Forrest Cooper, former Army ranger and digital editor of Recoil Magazine to examine the public reaction to Jen Psaki's outrageous statements about actively colluding with Face...book to prevent the spread of so-called 'misinformation' and talk of cross-platform banning, how even leftists are outraged by this approach, the new 'Free Speech phone' being developed and summarily reviled by left-wing mainstream media, the ways that support for secession has grown in recent years, and how society demands structure and the hierarchy of values most commonly found in religion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Biden admin just keeps saying the quiet part loud. Jen Psaki recently said that they were working with Facebook to flag misinformation, as if the government has the authority to determine what is true and what is false. They don't. Well, that's exactly what's happening. Facebook is taking people down. They've been censoring. And this is basically the government admitting that they are using private actors to censor
Starting point is 00:00:20 American speech. And then she put her foot in her mouth again, or I guess actually took it out because they're saying the quiet part loud. Jen Psaki came out and said that you should be banned from all platforms for misinformation if you're banned on one. And this was such an alarming statement to come from the federal government, from the executive branch, that even leftists are going, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, but a private company, but come on there. Yeah. This is what we've all been warning about for a long time. But I think that too many people on the left were like, well, it's not negatively impacting me. So I'm going to be fine with it. And now it's got to the point where the government is straight up like, if you say something bad, you should be purged from the internet completely.
Starting point is 00:01:01 And that's where we're at. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to chill. We got a lot of stuff to talk about, man, with government corruption. We've got war issues to talk about with what's going on with South Africa and Cuba, of course. But then we've also got the threat of balkanization here in the US. So I actually did the math. Yesterday, we talked about the percentage of people in the US who wanted to balkanize, and I said it was over 35%. I did the hard numbers because I mentioned that each region is not the same population. I went through the populations, multiplied, divided, all that good stuff. 37.2% based on this poll of the United States wants it to balkanize. That is more than a third.
Starting point is 00:01:40 That is substantial in my opinion. So we got to talk about what this means, And it's Friday, so we're usually chilling. So, of course, we are hanging out today with Forrest Cooper of Recoil Mag. Hey. Do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah. So my name is Forrest Cooper. As you said, I am with Recoil Magazine.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Here is an example of what we do. Guns. Yeah, gun stuff, right? So we got Chris Chang on the cover. Shout out to Chris Chang. If you're familiar with people like Maj Touré, you kind of know the people that we deal with. So we are a gun lifestyle magazine.
Starting point is 00:02:10 And then I myself, background in military special operations, and now I am here and the editor of a team that I really enjoy. You've been on the ground a lot of these riots too, haven't you? Yeah, well, I live in Minneapolis, so I think being on the ground is just obligatory, I guess. Yeah, and don't worry. In case you haven't you? Yeah, well, I live in Minneapolis, so I think being on the ground is just... You live in the riots....obligatory, I guess.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yeah, and don't worry. In case you haven't known, they're still going on in Minneapolis. They're just... No one wants to talk about it anymore because it's old news. Yeah. Or it's not good for...
Starting point is 00:02:36 I don't know. You don't get anything out of it, I guess? We'll get into all that stuff. We got Ian chilling. What's up, dawg? Ian Crossland over here. Happy to be here. Glad you're here for us. We did a little adventure earlier picking berries. Oh, yeah. You guys are picking berries. We got Ian Chilling. What's up, dog? Ian Crossland over here. Happy to be here. Glad you're here for us.
Starting point is 00:02:45 We did a little adventure earlier picking berries. Oh, yeah. You guys are picking berries. We're making wine wine. Yeah, wine berry wine. It's actually just called wine wine. Like a very normal thing that people make. Wine wine with wine berries.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Forrest went deep. He went beyond the perimeter to get the real, where all the berries really were. And they're like juicy and plump. Oh, man. Yeah, I had to wash my hands for a solid minute. And yes, of course, the ranger did go into the woods. That's right. To find berries.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah, you know, shout out to Mountain Faze. I don't want to starve to death. Right on. That's a good policy. I am also here in the corner. I got my little cameo earlier. And I'm excited for tonight's conversation. Always love having Forrest here.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I know we look like siblings. You don't need to say it. It's true. We'll see how the conversation goes tonight. Before we get started, my friends, go over to TimCast.com. Become a member, and you'll get access to exclusive members-only segments of the TimCast IRL podcast, as well as you'll be supporting our intrepid and fearless journalists as they begin reporting on the affairs of the world.
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Starting point is 00:05:37 We got tons of work being done. So again, sign up. Become a member. But don't forget to like, share, subscribe. Share this video with your friends if you think it's a good show. That's the best thing you can do. That's how we beat the algorithms and we beat the censorship. And my friends, this story is literally about how the federal government is saying that,
Starting point is 00:05:56 for one, they're going to be colluding or they are colluding with big tech. We've got statements from Facebook that apparently they were communicating with the Biden administration. And now we have them saying, oh, you should be banned from every platform if you're banned from one. That's why it's important you share this video. But let's jump into this first story and talk about the apocalypse. How about that? We got Fox News. Twitter explodes after Psaki urges big tech to unite on bans for misinformation spreaders. This is White House directed collusion. Remarking on steps social media outlets could take for
Starting point is 00:06:22 public health, she advised they, quote, create robust enforcement strategies that bridge their properties and provide transparency about rules. You shouldn't be banned from one platform and not others if you're providing misinformation. Here's what's important. Do you guys know what misinformation means? No. There's disinformation. You'll hear him say it. And there's misinformation.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Disinformation they define as intentionally misleading people. It's disinfo. You are going to them and telling them wrong things you know are wrong to screw with them. Right. Misinformation is when you're just wrong. So you could be like, that dog is called a chihuahua when it's actually a dachshund. And then they're going to be like, that's misinformation. I'm not going to give her the benefit, the benefit of the doubt on this one. I think she genuinely means if you go on social media and say something that is
Starting point is 00:07:12 incorrect, you should be purged from every platform. That's on top of the fact that we're learning now they're literally colluding. That, that Jen Psaki said, I think, I think I have this, this story right here. Check this out. Newsweek, Biden administration's admission they're flagging content to Facebook sparks fewer. Now there's a mistake here in the title. Jen Psaki did not say we are flagging content to Facebook. She said
Starting point is 00:07:36 for Facebook. This is the federal government instructing private actors to violate the rights of individuals. As I explained yesterday, it's really simple. The federal government can't hire a private security company to go and shut down a church because that's the government
Starting point is 00:07:51 shutting down the church. This is where we're at. It's dark days, man. I'm afraid of what the definition of misinformation will be tomorrow. Whatever I don't want you to say? Yeah. Clearly, if they're flagging misinformation they're asserting that they're the arbiters of truth this has been the the the freakiest thing
Starting point is 00:08:12 i've seen um since obama re-signed the ndaa i think well that so they do the ndaa every year but since it was publicly acknowledged that obama was signing a provision that would allow the U.S. to effectively rendition anyone anywhere for any reason indefinitely. Yeah. You'd be sleeping in your bed and they'll be like, I'm going to bag them. I'm wondering, too, if you provide misinformation and forget your mom's middle name or something on Facebook, does that mean you're going to get banned off of like GoDaddy, too? So like all not just social media, but every platform everywhere. What does that even mean? MailChimp, your telephone number, your bank account.
Starting point is 00:08:51 You'll effectively get disappeared. Digital disappearing. No, just... Well, I mean, how different is it from actually disappearing somebody when you have no access to resources anymore? I got to be honest, though. This actually... It's scary.
Starting point is 00:09:04 It's brazen. But I think it's scary. It's brazen. But I think it's actually kind of a good thing. You know why? No. It's so overt and insane. Yeah. It can't work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I mean, we have crypto technology, man. So she's like, we'll ban you from everything. If you start doing that, if you start purging everyone from every platform for your misinformation, then all you're going to do is create market competition and decentralize networks. Because, look, I mean, they would have to take a light touch. But if they ban people, like especially
Starting point is 00:09:34 if they ban a show like ours and then purged all of us from social media because, like, well, you know, Tim said misinformation. They're all on the show and got rid of everybody. We're not going to cease to exist. That's why we made TimCast.com. So I guess the web hosts will then come after us. Then we'll and got rid of everybody, we're not going to cease to exist. That's why we made TimCast.com. So I guess the web hosts will then come after us. Then we'll do what Gab did.
Starting point is 00:09:49 We'll make our own server. We'll make our own browser. We'll make our own network systems. Right. So you were – sorry, I don't mean to interrupt. I was listening to Dave Smith earlier today on Part of the Problem. Shout out to Dave. We love Dave over here.
Starting point is 00:10:04 And he was talking about the way she is being too over. And he talks about how sometimes they'll overreach. And Tim calls this, Scott Adams calls this selling past the point. They're like over asking, the big ask, whatever it is. And if they do it too much, people start to notice and they freak out, right? So they'll back it up, back it up, back it up. A little bit. I think, yeah, exactly. And Jill Biden was talking about how Jen Psaki is really messing this up
Starting point is 00:10:23 because she's about to leave, right? She's like fleeing the sinking ship or whatever. She's retiring. And I think she's she's kind of messing it up for them because she is overselling it. And now they're going to have to walk it back. So I think we can expect to see that. What they do is they'll say, I want 10. OK, fine. Seven. You know, you got a can of Coke worth a dollar and it's the big ask. It's what Trump did. OK, okay yeah let's use another example that's very uh that i have intimate relationship with it's firearms okay we want to ban ar-15s no uh well why won't you compromise okay we'll only
Starting point is 00:10:56 we'll limit you to 10 round magazines well that seems like an okay compromise like you're and that's why when you see this whole it's republic Republicans in a nutshell, dude. Yeah. I mean, it's exactly the same thing. Like, why do you think so many people are frustrated with the state of the defense of the Second Amendment right now? It's because when did we win last? And the end. But there's a good side to this. We're winning the culture. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Well, that's for sure. No. Second Amendment people. Oh, yeah. No. We're like the top of the town. Talk of the town right now. Yeah. Like we are winning the culture. The second amendment is winning. I mean, I even wrote an article on it about a year ago saying like the second amendment is that in in what way is it a compromise to accept 10 of the standard magazine capacity or are you or do you mean uh 30 that was that was a half no no 10 10 of the standard magazine i mean the standard magazine could be a hundred round drum yeah easy yeah i mean because who are you trying
Starting point is 00:12:02 to appease like you got to make deals with good faith actors. What I'm doing there is quite literally the point. You say, well, 100 rounds is standard. Well, 10%. That's too low. Okay, we'll do 50. How's 50? Because that's half of where we're at, right?
Starting point is 00:12:18 Right. Then you just end up where it's like, I don't recognize your right to tell me that I can and cannot own things. And then here's another good example of how that's turning out too. So what happens when the government decides, you know, we've already seen whether it's Dave Chipman. I didn't bring that sticker up here. That's great. I don't think we can show that.
Starting point is 00:12:36 No, we can't show that. That's good. Oops. But so, you know, you've got elements of Dave. It's of Waco for those that are. Yeah. Dave Chipman, this move in the ATF to ban braces. Read the article, ATF Brace Band Explained, because the brace band itself is convoluted.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And then also the kind of attack on home-built firearms or 80% firearms. Two states, Hawaii and Nevada, have retroactively banned the ownership of those. Well, so I don't want to get too off topic because this is fairly optimistic stuff. And I don't want people in the audience to feel too good about what's going on. So let's go back to are we winning that same fight? I'm joking, by the way. But when it comes to the speech stuff, Jen Psaki is going over the top. That's why I said I think this might be like imagine if the federal government came out and said we're going to ban literally.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Well, they actually did this. They wanted to ban all semi-autos. Remember that? Yep. That was the funniest thing when I was at the March for Our Lives and people were like semi-automatic weapons should be banned. And I was like, so you think like the weapon a police officer uses? And they were like, oh, no, not like a handgun. I'm like, those are semi-auto.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So anyway, to sort of lump these together because we got the First and Second Amendments kind of sitting next to each other. They're necessarily tied to one another one without the other is impotent and the other without the one has no aim oh i think the second amendment is the most important one though yeah and and the first amendment doesn't matter if you don't have the second and the second one has no direction if you don't have the first well what do you mean by that so like what's the point like oh instructing people and informing them speech is necessary like our ability to speak to one another I would much rather have a conversation with you. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:14:08 If you have no free, with no free speech, guns are banned instantly. True. Because what will happen is anybody who dares speak up and explains why the Second Amendment is so important, they'll get banned. Then within a few years, people are like, why do we have guns anymore? Ban them. That's already happening right now. It's already happening right now what's already happening or you'll have like marauding bands of warlords that give no crap about who says what and they just take control all pure military yeah and that that's that's a fire that burns itself out really fast it doesn't
Starting point is 00:14:35 you can't like you can uh listen to jordan peterson talk about chimpanzees like if you're too brutal it takes two chimpanzees to take out one brutal alpha so like the super chimp yeah super chimp right you don't last no no no but when we're talking about this information it's easy it's it's it's on the nose and it's perfect timing if you do not what happens when you have somebody like um uh who's the kid from um dav Hogg. David Hogg, right? David Hogg, who overtly says something like, I wear a mask so people don't think I'm a conservative. Now he's the one making the motion.
Starting point is 00:15:15 He's the poster boy saying, oh, no, that's misinformation. David Hogg, if you listen to him talk about firearms, he doesn't know what he's talking about. Of course, of course. And I don't mean to... I'm not going to punch down, like in in some sense of the matter punch down the dude's got a million followers and he's like he's he's high profile well funded yeah and isn't he in harvard now oh yeah like good for him like yeah but like at the end of the day i
Starting point is 00:15:38 mean if you listen to david hogg you don't know anything about what you're talking about. And it's a tough thing to do. But I don't want him telling me what I know. Well, this is actually an interesting kind of like combined conversation. We're talking about 1A and 2A. And I got to speak from Vosh. So Vosh, he's a socialist. He's a leftist.
Starting point is 00:16:02 We've had him on the show. He responded to this story about Jen Psaki saying, this seems pretty effed. He said companies have a right to create and enforce TOS and the government has a right to legislate, but the idea of the government informally pressuring tech companies into changing their TOS without legislation seems pretty scary. I'm not sure
Starting point is 00:16:18 what the solution to the mass spreading of disinformation is, but some solutions certainly seem more 1984 than others. And then he made a joke, all my political opinions are formed by feeding tweets into an algorithm which rates them on a scale of 1776 to 1984. Until I have a stronger opinion on this, my official position is that we can
Starting point is 00:16:34 fix social media disinformation by simply banning everyone I don't like. Now what's funny is, he has a follow-up tweet, completely unrelated, of his Smith & Wesson 22 victory, which he says came back after sending it off for repairs looking very handsome in its new grip in my honest opinion and i'm just like all right if we can agree that that was bad and we can agree that the guns are good all right we
Starting point is 00:16:54 agree we agree yeah i wonder i i ultimately wonder when we talk about the potential for civil war collapse or balkanization if there really will be a major conflict if the major conflict will be the left populist versus the right populist because i kind of don't think it will be i think it'll be more establishment machine industrialist yeah we were talking earlier me and forest in the kitchen downstairs and i was i think it's going to be economic rather than military i mean there might be a military behind the economic but i think it'll be like a shattering into state currency or something and then florida will be like, we're not accepting Arkansas coin if you act like this. And the Fed's like, you have to accept Arkansas coin.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And they're like, no. No, but I think the populists might end up avoiding each other to a certain degree. The problem, though, is a lot of the people on the left who are actually particularly authoritarian, but I don't think that they're populist. I think there are left populists. There are many of them. Unfortunately, they give too much power to the democratic establishment. But I think if things actually reach, you know, if it hits the fan, I think most people
Starting point is 00:17:57 who are populist or libertarian leaning are going to be like, I'm going to sit at my house and grow vegetables. Leave me the F alone. It's the authoritarians who are going to be cracking down and trying to go after people. Can you real quick define populism? It's when you are supported by and working for the interests of the population, of the people. Popular support. Then you have elitism, which is when you're working for and supported by the powers of the elites.
Starting point is 00:18:18 And then you have the establishment, which is mostly the elite infrastructure, the machines, the old money, the traditional power structures. So Trump is a populist. He has almost no support from the elites. Tucker Carlson is an elite, gives him some support, so there's some people there for sure. But he has almost no elite support, but he has tons of popular support. The elites can muster up a strong force against that and restrict access to institutions. So all the institutions are all, for the most part, elitist. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:48 So the left populists, they were the Bernie Sanders crowd, but then Bernie went totally establishment. Then they started voting in people like Biden because I don't think they understood what they were doing. And interestingly, the right populist movement is actually not even completely economically or culturally right wing. But it's just older left wing people like, you know, like I used to be or you probably were at some point or still are. I definitely was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 More leftist. And now it's kind of like, hey, freedom is important and what the establishment is doing is wrong. Then you have these younger left populists who just the establishment is better because Trump is a fascist and I don't know better. So like an authoritarian populist, where they're like, we're going to legislate for everyone to make it better for everyone, and then they end up ruining it for a bunch of people on accident. I think this is a really good place to put a line of demarcation or a differentiation between two concepts, because when you're talking about populism, we describe somebody as a populist. I don't prescribe them as a populist. I describe prescribe them as a populist i describe donald trump as a populist because he gets his support right people a person doesn't become a populist
Starting point is 00:19:52 in the sense of it's a thing that they become it's a method of description right and so it whereas in the same thing in that elitist thing is like well you could also say that some people are just they prefer to work for the good of the elites so i think populism growing is different than democracy in the sense it's not a system of governance but the issue with populism versus authoritarianism where we're starting to see this kind of tear itself apart is the authoritarianism is a top-down approach whereas the populism is a bottom-up approach from a set of cultural norms yes right so they so jen saki overtly states we are an authoritarian we have an authoritarian view on cultural norms we have the right as the elites to dictate to you what is okay and not okay. Whereas Donald Trump, in that if he's being described as a populist, is in more of a symbiotic relationship of saying, I understand you have the values are coming from the people and they put their position into Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I will say when it comes to this tweet from Vosh about the Smith and Wesson 22 victory is my biggest criticism is that he chose the victory. Because I have one, and it fails to eject the case. It just keeps jamming. And so I went online, and they were like, you've got to file down the, what is it called, the ejector pin or whatever? Yeah, it might be the ejector. Yeah, and so I'm like, you know, you shoot a couple times, it gets jammed. Vosh, man, there's
Starting point is 00:21:20 better.22s. I'm just kidding. It's actually a great gun. It's great. Yeah, I mean, and also, .22, especially.22 handguns, are notorious for being picky with ammunition. Right, right, right. I was kidding. I was kidding, Vosh. Your gun looks pretty cool. But we do need more Tim and Vosh drama.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, we do. Well, the plan right now is Charlie Kirk and Vosh on August 3rd. Cool guy. The thing I like about Vosh, and his name's Ian. I want to call him Ian. What's up, dude? Is he's, like, really smart. Like, it's whatever your political beliefs are.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And this is kind of what I always want to remind myself and other people about. It doesn't really matter what your political beliefs are. If you're really smart and open minded and you want to and you like listening to people, go for it. You have to have your discussion and your ideas. You don't got it. You don't got to like the guy. You got to beat him in a debate. Of course.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So for anybody who's saying they think he's dumb or they don't like him, it's like, yeah, well, definitely not. If you know it, if you know it, you can beat him in a debate, there you go. That's what it's all about. Anybody who's willing to come in here and sit down and have that debate, that's great. I respect that because there's a lot of people who are grifting, who outright refuse to come in. There are even people who are not even like – there are people who are moderately right who are scared of talking about certain things. So somebody wants to come and sit in the lion's den and have that i mean look he's agreed to sit here with charlie and me charlie me and charlie don't agree on everything but we definitely don't
Starting point is 00:22:33 agree with vosh so he's like willing to sit down on what's what's effectively a two against one debate all right that's great about debating i like that about him yeah i think i think we're seeing a shift in the way that we talk about things, especially like intelligence, is that there's a difference between being intelligent and being an honest intellectual. So somebody, again, you could take somebody who has the hardware or the practice, and they understand something very thoroughly, and they're very, very well versed in the subject. But when they come to a conversation, they're not interested in understanding the subject or coming to solutions and problems are interested in something else. And I think that's a big, I think that's actually a very large undergirding issue with the way that we address things in society. I'm not super worried about leftist YouTubers, to be completely honest, when we're talking about what's going on with Jen Psaki and the federal government.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I understand that when it came to the 2020 election, they played a huge role in helping the fascistic establishment machine take power. And that sucks. But that's happened. We have the audits happening. We'll see if what more comes from that. We'll see where we end up. But regardless of any of it, it seems like we're heading towards some kind of breakup,
Starting point is 00:23:46 peaceful divorce, decentralization, at the very least, the federal government's become too powerful. And now it's starting to lose a lot of that power. Like one of the things we mentioned the other day, we mentioned quite often, the Democrats use the federal government to enact local laws for everybody in areas that aren't local to them. And I think a lot of people do this too. It's funny when you see someone running for Congress and they'll be like, if you vote for me, I'll make this place better. It's like, I'm from St. Paul, Minneapolis, and I want to make St. Paul clean. So vote for me.
Starting point is 00:24:19 And it's like, bro, you represent us to the feds. You go to D.C. You're not here to discuss budget for the local cleanup of these streets. So what happens is they go to dc and they say our streets are dirty i demand we create a massive federal budget to clean up streets and then you got some guy who lives in the mountains of like wyoming and over in the rockies and he's like what why why are my tax dollars going towards it that makes literally no sense but guns are a better example perfect somebody somebody in new york being like these guns are a problem we should ban them and there's a guy fighting a grizzly bear and he hears like you know often on his radio they want to ban guns and he's like i'm in the middle of fighting a grizzly
Starting point is 00:24:52 bear i need my gun to fight that grizzly bear you know there's uh water collections another interesting one because in some some states and i don't have a list of which ones but it's illegal to collect rainwater i think because it it grows bacteria like standing water and mosquitoes, so you don't want it in a city. But in some areas of rural America, you need the access to rainwater. It's because of groundwater. So typically the places that ban water collection is because it would eventually deplete groundwater reserves.
Starting point is 00:25:19 The water has to cycle into the soil and everything like that. Got it. Is that way in Colorado? It's not about one person having water. It's about if everyone was doing it. But then there are some places that don't do it. Imagine if some guy, you know, like imagine if Arizona went to the federal government and said, we want to pass a bill that says the Great Lakes should share their water with
Starting point is 00:25:34 everybody. Well, not everybody needs the Great Lakes water and the Great Lakes needs it more than you do, but they need water. So they want to pass laws that affect everybody. So now that we're past 2020, what am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to go to a lot of these left YouTuber types who are like, please vote for Joe Biden and be like, here's a big list of everything you screwed up? I think a lot of people realize how bad things are, how they got duped. The promises that were made by the Democrats didn't come true.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And now you have all of these Biden voters posting their L's on Twitter. And now I'm just like, OK, I'm honestly not worried about the useful idiots. I got burned by George Bush when he told us there are weapons of mass destruction. I think everyone needs to get burned once by a politician, by a president, and to realize that that system is susceptible to corruption. It's tough, dude, because you know what it is? It's that we trust. And so when you're young and you're in your 20s, and then Obama comes around and he's tough, dude, because you know what it is? It's that we trust. And so when you're young and you're in your 20s and then Obama comes around and he's like, I'm going to bring change
Starting point is 00:26:30 and hope. Get our troops out of the Middle East. It's going to be great. And then you're like, this is fantastic. End the war on drugs. And you're like, wow, this is it. This is what I've been waiting for. I grew up with these bad guys. Here's a good guy. And then you get burned and you're like, wow, he was a bad guy screw everybody young people they give the benefit of the doubt they don't do it again sometimes people do but i think most of the establishment people on social media man they are absolutely just looking for some kind of personal gain from the wind what do you mean establishment people like the the media people the overstate the cathedral they're absolutely going to lie cheat and steal because they're going to be empowered you know you said it you said it a
Starting point is 00:27:08 couple times earlier this week and i think you made the point very clear uh when joe biden is talking he's not talking to you that's what he's meaning he's talking to his elites he's like yeah we're doing these things for our own good your opinion on the matter is irrelevant you you as a person ian like you know or my i you know when when you when you present the world in that kind of way he's not interested in what you think and so when you even look at balkanization and decentralization they're the same thing but one of them balkanization is more of a a breaking of political structures as opposed to uh decentralization starts in the home how so uh so you you know like you have you have your experience where you get burned by
Starting point is 00:27:52 a politician you might become cynical if nothing else or at least suspicious of all all of your political of anything political but that itself is not self-sufficiency. That itself is just skepticism, and skepticism does not, skepticism manifests into nihilism, and then you just go crazy. So we don't want that. So when you get this balkanization, this structure that we're talking about is when I'm voting for somebody for the House of Representatives, I know that they're going to the House of Representatives of the feds. So I'm interested in their representation of my state to the federal government. I'm not interested in their representation to my state, to its own people, because I am sending them as a representative to the federal government. And so I focus a lot more on local politics,
Starting point is 00:28:42 right? If I live in Brooklyn Center, i am interested in who is the city council of brooklyn center if you look at a lot of the strife that's gone through minneapolis in the last year it's all on the local level and then people on the federal level like maxine waters come in and cause more but they don't create it themselves they add on to the chaos of the city so when you look at like decentralization you could say why is it that or here's two really good examples referring to guns um joe biden's uh not joe biden himself but like the atf currently put out new letters redefining theoretically redefining what a brace is making these guns sbrs and it's a whole big legal problem it effectively will make anywhere between 10 and 30 million people felons overnight.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So, yeah, if you know, if you, with confiscation, it's all kind of trouble, right? So you have that issue, and then Texas goes, we as a state will not allow the federal government to enforce this law. They are decentralizing their understanding of firearms rights from the federal government they're not getting it from the top down california did the same thing you're not allowed to own these guns in our city or in our state two very good examples of the opposite ends of the scale of both people being decentralized the states ultimately compromise the united states so what did you say? SB something? SB Tactical?
Starting point is 00:30:07 No, no. You said they were trying to make stocks illegal to make it an SB. SBR, short-barreled rifle. I apologize for that. I see. SBR. Thank you. Yeah. If you want to look into the history of terrible laws, look at the NFA.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Oh, yeah. The National Firearms Act. Because if your barrel is too short, now you're a bad person. Yeah. Why is that? Because it's easier to conceal there's there's a functionally in our current life that where we live now it is completely arbitrary and it's because of the bureaucratic bloat laws never go away they always get added to there's there's a forward grip i don't know what's called but it's like slight
Starting point is 00:30:39 angle and i was told that if you hold it improperly it turns your your your pistol into a rifle if you put a four the atf has determined that if you put a foregrip a vertical foregrip on the front of your on on a large frame pistol that has a brace it is considered turning it into an sbr but there's there's there's a one grip that's actually like a it's like a wedge right you're talking about yeah the mangle magpul angled foregrip i was told that if you hold it the way it's supposed to be hold it you're fine but then if you hold it like oh you're supposed to have your hand in front of it or behind it and if you put your hand on it it makes it a foregrip and now it's yeah i i do not know the answer to that one because that is another really really good point on why this whole nfa national
Starting point is 00:31:22 firearms act is so problematic is because one it was it was a gun confiscation scheme that started a long time ago that failed it basically failed in the senate or in the legislation um and then so they it was just again we're going to make we want to take all the guns away okay no it's compromised okay we'll only make these illegal that's one problem and then after well, firearms technology has changed massively since that. 3D printing. It can't keep up with it. The legislation cannot keep up with it, and the change in how firearms are used
Starting point is 00:31:54 and how people are shooting different types of competitions. They're looking for different types of firearms for home defense. It's not all your granddad's bolt action anymore. Are they going to make rail guns? They have them. They already exist. They're just not great. I mean like NFA items.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Are they going to make rail guns banned? Are they going to... You know, let's not give the enemy any ideas. No ideas. Let's loop back because we were talking about free speech and stuff and Jen Psaki, and there was another subject I really wanted to get into, and that's the Freedom Phone. Have you guys heard about the Freedom Phone?
Starting point is 00:32:29 I have. I tweeted it out a couple days ago. All right, so Freedom Phone comes from this guy. He was actually hanging out here once when we had Alan Bakari on, and he was showing us the device and everything, and I was like, yeah, cool, whatever. And it's a phone that, he says, will keep your privacy. You won't be tracked.
Starting point is 00:32:43 It's an uncensorable app store, so the apps are going to be allowed to be in it. And it comes preloaded with a bunch of, you know, free speech websites and things like that. Let me just say, I have not done a technical review of the product, but boy, is this guy over Target. Seriously.
Starting point is 00:33:01 The amount of smear pieces that have come out about the freedom phone that are laughably bad and nonsensical and make no points is insane i haven't seen any of them okay so first first the the the uh the daily beast put out quite possibly the stupidest smear piece i've ever seen where they were like it turns out that freedom phone aha its base hardware is actually a Chinese company's phone. And then I see people on Twitter be like, whoa, really? And I'm like, I don't understand what that means. So what?
Starting point is 00:33:32 Did you think the guy built the phone from scratch in a factory in Scranton or something? Of course he outsourced a base phone. What do people think this is? But that's the narrative they're trying to weave. It's a bad phone. You can't have it because it was made in China. And I'm like, yeah, along with like every other phone, I guess. So you probably still want to do some kind of forensic analysis on it to see if there's data leak or whatever,
Starting point is 00:33:51 to see if it's actually doing what he claims to. Check this out. The Daily News right wing activist pushed $500 Freedom Phone made in China and seemingly available under a less patriotic name for $120. This is a lie. This headline is a lie for one simple reason. Let me explain to you what the headline actually says. Let's say I have a canvas that costs $5. And I paint a picture of Ian on it. And then I say $100. And they come out with a headline.
Starting point is 00:34:20 The canvas that Tim is selling for $100 actually can be bought at Hobby Lobby for $5. Oh, my. Yeah, but I painted a picture on it. So this has got apps, it's got a proprietary operating system. Some people don't know how to load those things. So if you want those things, you pay for them. But wait, there's more.
Starting point is 00:34:35 It gets even better. Oh, good. We have this story from Gizmodo. MAGA-branded Freedom Phone is a black box that should be avoided at all costs. Nobody can blame GOp voters for wanting a phone that prioritizes privacy and autonomy but the freedom phone can't be trusted why they don't actually give a good reason why it can't be trusted they just say it's a chinese phone okay
Starting point is 00:34:54 so do a do a hard wipe on it or don't trust him why would i trust apple or google over some random guy sorry i trust random guy over these major companies. But wait, there's more. CNET. Uncensorable Freedom Phone raises a host of security questions. No, it doesn't. They're freaking out over this. Freedom Phone, and again, I have not vetted the device. I have not done
Starting point is 00:35:18 any technical review on it. I look forward to. So I hear about this phone and I'm like, oh, that'll be interesting. I should hit one of my buddies and we should gut it and we should like really go through it and see what he's got going on. But to see all of these people. So what happened was I saw Robbie Suave, a libertarian guy from Reason, tweeted in response, I think, to Candace Owens or something.
Starting point is 00:35:37 That was a grift that they're grifting selling this phone. And I'm like, why? Why? Why is it a grift? I don't understand. Jack Murphy responded with, is there a reasonable critique of this? Because I've not, you know, that you've written about. Ian Miles Chong then responds that it's just a Chinese phone.
Starting point is 00:35:51 You know, Daily Beast wrote about it. My response is like, oh, the great technologists and intrepid reporters of the Daily Beast and their expertise on the far, far, far, far, far right. They know exactly how a phone works. There are people who are just freaking out over the idea that you could have a phone pre-built to keep you off their grid. Big tech must be sweating. All of a sudden, all these articles, like, bro, I Googled this story earlier today, and I saw a bunch of articles. I just Googled it now to pull this up. Way more articles. And they're saying things like, phone one person tweeted a hacker the phone the data set that the chip set could be
Starting point is 00:36:31 hacked if they have physical access to the device and i'm like that's good you want access to your own device no no no no they're saying someone else can hack your phone if they have physical access and i'm like that's true for my refrigerator dude right it's true for my car if someone gets physical access to my device they can do a lot of things with it it is insane how how much they're freaking out over this um i he was saying that they scoured the united states to try and build it here and the they found out that the united states is not capable of producing phones i will say one of the funniest things was, though, Eric Finman, who made this, tweeted out the video. Like, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Then he tweeted what you said. We scoured the U.S. to find a factory that could build these phones. The unfortunate reality is that there's nothing. There's no factories that could build at scale. And it says Twitter for iPhone underneath it. That's awesome. He tweeted it out. He's using the iPhone.
Starting point is 00:37:24 You know, you got to do research that's i use youtube facebook twitter i built mines but i well i didn't build it i was there come on he should be using his own phone yeah probably yeah i wonder if it doesn't i wonder if that was on twitter he put that out i wonder if we did with an iphone if he doesn't use twitter from the freedom phone i wonder how that i can't wait to talk to this guy yeah yeah yeah it should it should be interesting but there's something to be said about what we're hearing from the federal government jensaki censoring people shutting them down banning them from every platform then a dude comes out and he's like this device has all these pre-loaded apps it's super easy for you you want to know why this
Starting point is 00:37:58 is so powerful and so important because it can be replicated very very quickly and easily and regular people who have no technical expertise are being provided with a service that very simply could potentially grant them privacy security eliminate the tracking and stop the censorship not to mention unit freedom phone really needed to include i don't know if they do mesh networking capabilities oh that's right so again i want to see one of these devices and i used to to do a ton of hacking. I was saying this earlier. I once hacked an Android to be a Pip-Boy from Fallout 3. Nice. It's not hard to do.
Starting point is 00:38:30 It's literally not hard. You get skins. You get a new OS. You put it on. You do it, and then you get the little Pip-Boy thing. Then you get the app where it puts the light into your skin to track your pulse and everything, and then you actually have the Fallout 3 thing. Anyway, I'd love to gut this thing, see what's going on. But what's powerful
Starting point is 00:38:46 about it? I am not sponsored by this company. I do not have one of these phones. There is no promo code for me. I in no way am saying that it's the best one ever. The idea that somebody could make privacy as a service, or as a product, as hardware,
Starting point is 00:39:02 scares them. The beast, the machine, the overstate, the cathedral. Similar to those 3D printed ghost guns when they came out. Man, they did not like that. They still don't. Yeah. You can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:13 The motto behind that is you can't stop the signal. I mean, they're already out there. It's too easy to make now. We need to figure out how to make something like this as easily replicable as like, you knowd printing yeah i mean at one point in time i'm sure we'll be able to achieve that and the other interesting thing that your articles include is they all sound like they're targeting potential right-wing consumers yeah we're reading gizmodo in the daily bs might be this is that's probably the closest i can get to conspiracy thought on that one. But it definitely sounds like they're not really interested in normal Gizmodo readers. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Very interesting. They're very interested in. Oh, those people are going to search for Freedom Phone. And we want to discourage people who are interested in the which we want. Right. So the, you know, like right wing extremism and the term they use are the things that people who are on the right don't like being called. You want to know why I lean on – I see these stories. They provided no evidence of anything.
Starting point is 00:40:14 They're saying it could potentially be hacked if someone has physical access. And I'm like, okay, well, then don't lose your phone. Like don't get your phone stolen. Okay. Add security apps to it, I suppose. The chipset could be hacked or whatever. The reason why I think this is most likely on the level is that you cannot put out a phone and then allow communities to hack it and not find what you're doing. So basically, if Google and Apple put out phones and regular people break into them and, oh, no, they've hacked it.
Starting point is 00:40:44 They've got physical access people jailbreak phones all the time and then they find out where the tracking is coming from what data is being leaked and where of course they'll be able to do it with freedom phone which is made by some guy some guy's phone but he says they've they've taken little bits from a bunch of different operating systems to create their own operating system one of which is called graphene os and i hear a lot of people saying, there's no reason to buy the phone. Just buy your own phone and put Graphene OS on it.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And I'm like, yeah, that's actually great if you know how to do it. But see, what's scaring them is that 45-year-old Mildred can be like, I don't know nothing about that phone booting, but I'll buy one of those Freedom phones. I'm like, no, no, no, we need to spy on you. Oh, what's Mines?
Starting point is 00:41:24 It comes preloaded with Mines. Yeah, dude. Oh, make an account on Mines. What? I'm not getting tracked. Yep. That's right. Or maybe you're not getting tracked.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I still, like you said, I haven't broken a phone. So it's, you know, you get a ton of people on the right. They're promoting it. They're giving their promo codes for it. And the establishment is like, over Target, baby. You said that you can't stop the signal. That must go in many directions. Does that also mean that you can't stop your signal from being tracked regardless of what your signal is and where it is?
Starting point is 00:41:54 Oh, it's referencing to 3D printing guns. The technology is so simple now that you can do it, and it's not hard to do. They're just making it illegal. But if you know a modicum about the Internet, you know that they can't block things. What was the effect of it? It would, like, don't take a picture of my house. Streisand.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Streisand effect, right? And that's exactly what's happening. Like, people, it is one of our most read articles is, like, where to find 3D-printed gun files. It's on the Internet, right? And, like, another interesting thing about that too is like we're we have we currently have a pre-order for a hard paper paper copy of a bunch of diy things like how to build guns and how to do all these kind of how to diy your own suppressor
Starting point is 00:42:35 all of it is legal all of it is exactly like hey this is what you do do not do this because you this is again this is breaking the law but it's like okay now i have the book there and that helps and then it's it's that digitally back during prohibition they used to sell it was a powdered powdered wine and you'd buy it and it would come with a card that said warning do not pour this into a bottle and then store it in a cabinet for one month because it will turn into wine and wine is illegal. Don't do that. So people were... It was like grape juice or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Like you powdered grape juice and it was like, don't put this in the... It'll turn into wine. Yeah. Then people had wine. Don't look at that guy. Everyone's like, what guy? Streisand, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Streisand effect. You know, man, I don't know. It's going to be interesting to see what this phone's capable of. But regardless of that, I think people would be well-suited to actually learn about Android devices and custom operating systems and security features and things like that. Because there's a spine on you. And if you think they're not, you are wrong. Do you think they have satellites that can listen in to us right now with like long range radio waves uh no these lasers
Starting point is 00:43:46 lidar what is it i think you're overthinking and they're just listening to the stream yeah that's for sure true i've opted in yeah well i mean you've got devices everywhere if they really wanted to listen to you oh bro we got the amazon robot over there yeah but then like if you're out in the woods and you don't have any cell signal, can they listen to you? That is a question that I cannot answer. Alexa, are you spying on us? Amazon takes privacy seriously. Amazon takes private information.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Can you hear it? She just basically is like, we take privacy very seriously. Look at the app. You know she didn't answer your question. Yes, that was a non-denial denial. Thanks, Amazon. We're being spotted by robots. Thanks, lady. I did thank that computer earlier today. I think I'm app and you know she didn't answer your question yes that was a non-denial denial yeah thanks amazon we're being spotted by a lady i did thank that computer earlier today i think i'm either going insane or evolving to the robot you know it'd be cool if like you know we're not there's there's no
Starting point is 00:44:35 overstate there's no cathedral it's just someone invented an ai like 10 years ago and it took over and now we're like trapped in the machine you know so you're actually fighting the ai you'll never win oh that's encouraging so life's a video game i mean i'm not saying that but maybe like it's a self-propelling organism and we're just kind of kind of no i'm saying it's like a car the faster a car moves the less you have to turn the wheel to make it go crazy in a different direction i'm just saying what if like dr johnson 10 years ago was like i have done it i've created ai and then the ai was like hello dr johnson and then after 10 years he like controlled the like it's like a movie you know what i mean that one with johnny depp where he like puts his brain in the machine and takes over and whatever the ai would have been like i have created dr johnson yeah there you go it's like ultron you know what
Starting point is 00:45:20 if you created an ai but then the ai thought it has always been here? Never mind. I don't want to derail the conversation into this. Well, isn't that the singularity? The singularity, yeah. I'm pretty sure the singularity is when the AI becomes self-conscious and replicatable at a point where it can't be stopped. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure we're not there yet. I don't think the AI is quite there. But according to Lex Friedman, one of the pioneers and leading AI scientists on Earth, that is inevitable. That AI is going to become self-replicable and will create itself and proliferate unstoppably.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And anybody who's watched Stargate knows that the replicators go to war with the Asgard and then it's tough war, man. Oh, really? Do you guys know what Grey Goo is? The Grey Goo apocalyptic scenario? No. It's a reference to humans or you know creating a nanobot which self-replicates and then it keeps eating materials to create more and more of itself and then eventually it's consumed all matter on the planet all that's left is what appears to be
Starting point is 00:46:15 a gray goo but when you zoom in it's a bunch of tiny nanobots all just yeah if you want i highly recommend paperclip simulator if you want to play a game like that where you just make paper in ai that makes paperclips. Oh, and it destroys the world. It turns everything into paperclips. And then it creates drones that go out into space to make more drones to make more paperclips. It keeps going and changing and going to the next level and the next level. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:36 It's like a video game you can play? It's just like a browser game that's all like numbers and data. And you watch the numbers going up and up and up. Oh, I see. It's really cool. It's not like an actual game? That'd be awesome to make. I guess technically it's a game. Yeah, check it out. But like a 3D game where you consume
Starting point is 00:46:50 the planet? No, not yet. That'd be wild. Like Scorps. Didn't somebody create a game where you basically create a plague that's supposed to take up the planet? Oh, yeah. Plague Inc. And then after COVID began, they... What did they do? They stopped selling it in China, trying to ban the sale of it. And then after COVID began, they, what did they do? They stopped selling it in China, trying to ban the sale of it.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And then they made an expansion called The Cure now. So it's Plague Inc. The Cure, and now you play it in trying to kill the virus. Oh, now you're trying to cure the virus. Yes. Oh, interesting. It's a little. And before anybody makes, you know, makes aware of it, I am aware that I say the word plague wrong.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Plague? Plague. Plague. Plague. Plague. Plague. Plague. Can't be changed so uh uh talking about you know we got the freedom phone stuff we got people resisting we've got now the populist left and the right are like yo jen sag you're crossing the line you're losing it for the longest time i
Starting point is 00:47:39 was saying um you know civil war of some sort but that was because we were looking at it through the lens of last the last election cycle where the populist left was very much aligned with the establishment now that joe biden's in i was saying it's the biggest mistake for them to bring joe biden in because this will fracture them from the populist left yeah they should have used bernie somebody who yeah and bernie was playing ball they would have twisted him man oh they did twist him yeah but anyway the point is now with biden and conservatives hate biden disaffected liberals politically homeless idw hate biden and the populist left hates biden they have put into office a man everybody hates now to be fair he's not the most hateable guy
Starting point is 00:48:21 because of how pathetic and old and befuddled he is, but no one likes him. So now it kind of feels like that's taken away the prospect of an actual faction versus faction clash and opened up what appears to be balkanization. So I want to show you guys this because we talked about it yesterday. This is the chart that we pulled up last time. Support for seceding from the U.S. to form a new regional union. The Pacific region is 39%. The mountain region is 32%. The heart the heartland is 30 the northeast is 34 and the south is 44 so what i did well and this is you gov data i added up all the numbers divided them by five
Starting point is 00:48:55 and got you know 35 or so percent it's an incorrect number because the pacific region has about 53 million people and the southern region has 107 million people. So 44% of 107 million is substantially more than 39% of 53 million. I did all the math. The full number is 37.2 million people. So I added up the total populations. Then I took the 44% of 107. I added them together, divided them by the actual population. 37.2% of this country is in favor of their region splitting off from the country.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Tell me why it's a bad idea. Well, firstly, we're getting a poll that's only polled like 3,000 people, I think, right? 2,800 people total. Which is apparently like twice what you need for a representative sample. Technically, but it's only like 0.1, what what is that 0.01 percent of the population got pulled on this so i i could see you know random errors in the data hold on so what you're basically saying is that they got lucky in that everyone they asked just happened to be the people who wanted to secede could have been no it could have been the way they were asking the question too like
Starting point is 00:50:03 do you want to secede from the union they're like well i never thought of that the question the question was something like would you support your region breaking off from the united states to form a new regional yeah and if someone had never thought that before and then they saw that question they might be like yeah sure yeah okay so they support it like it wasn't like they were like i want this to happen and they thought of it on their own, like they're being coaxed into answering. I think you're attacking the poll, which is, it's YouGov data. YouGov's pretty good, and it's 2,750 people, which is more than is needed for a representative sample. It is a poll, though. I'm not trying to say the poll's perfect, because polls are pretty trash.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Yeah, if it was 70 million people that voted for something like this, I'd be, now this would be hot, hot, hot to me. Well, like Tim tim said polls are typically garbage um but if you want to ask someone a question and kind of figure out what people are really thinking you could break it down with any question you could be like this poll is wrong because they asked it in this way so i feel like you're kind of splitting hairs i don't care i don't care about arguing about whether polls are good or not i'm talking about based on this data 37.2 percent of people want to balkanize the United States. Is that a good or bad thing? If you want to ask me why I consider it a bad idea, which is not the opinion that I'm going to espouse,
Starting point is 00:51:10 is because we've never done it successfully without mass conflict. But you think it's a good idea? I think that it's something that we're exploring that could very well be a good idea. I mean, we're in the exploratory stage. It's certainly a better option than many, many things. I would much rather have peaceful divorce than what happened in Bosnia. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I would rather have peaceful divorce than the constant riots in Minneapolis being the new normal. That's fair. I would rather have some form of ability for American, the current country that is America, where people go, okay, you know what, then we're going to finally have the motivation to move here. And we're going to build our families and we're going to build our cultures. And we're going to realize that this ship will never meet again. Like this, we have to stand at odds. Or, you know, maybe you could you could take it more cynical ways. But, yeah, I would much rather have it than some sort of authoritarian dictatorship where it's like I'm under the boot of, you know, some.
Starting point is 00:52:14 It doesn't pick an authoritarian that's that even holds all of my views. I don't. You know, you mentioned something I had said earlier in that biden isn't talking to you when just seriously when jen seki comes out when biden comes out everybody listening to the show knows biden is not talking to them because he says things that are not in line with literally what their states are doing or what their representatives want or the people have voted for so the example easily being when biden said we need more lockdowns and texas and florida had literally reopened everything to the support of their of the residents and citizens of their of their states. So Biden is literally saying our democracy and our country.
Starting point is 00:52:53 And they're they're actually saying the Republicans are the problem. In fact, let me let me pull up this this this story from Newsweek. Gosh, ex-Trump official says GOP greater national security threat to U.S. than ISIS or Al Qaeda. The grand old party, the Republicans. So when Joe Biden comes out and says what the Republicans are doing is the biggest threat since the Civil War, you know, he is already saying this country is not unified and they are the enemy. Well, it also it also goes back to your point is he saying that and this is where you have to make a really important parsing is he saying that the republicans are the biggest threat to the country or to his regime and i think the answer is
Starting point is 00:53:39 b no i i think he's saying country and I think he views the country as only his supporters and only his states. Exactly. We're splitting hairs in the conversation. I agree with you. Yeah. So what does that mean for the rest of us, I suppose? I kind of think we're already balkanized. The way we built this country was absolutely incredible.
Starting point is 00:53:56 We have these states with this massive power, these state power. So that's kind of what the Balkans are, is a bunch of states. So as long as we reign the power of the federal government, I think that we're already ready to go, man. We're Balkanized and ready, man. We're a decentralized union of states. Sorry. Go ahead. I was going to say, I think that if you look at the example of the Balkans, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:54:19 That's not encouraging. We could probably look at something like the EU. And if we go into it in an organized fashion which i don't think we are i think that everything's going to be insanely slipshod like the voting in 2020 give me a freaking break absolute insanity i think that we're more likely to be more like the balkans than the eu but if we could do something like the european union that would be possible from talking to a british dude about the eu he was saying it was really horrible because it was like unelected leadership would make decisions for england all of a sudden that's exactly what i've been saying about the democrats
Starting point is 00:54:48 yep dude i move out to the middle of nowhere because i don't want to live in philly when i live in philly you know i live in we live in the suburbs and i hear like they want to pass certain laws i'm like i get it that makes sense because i live in a city i live in an urban area but in the middle of nowhere now all of a sudden i'm hearing what the democrats are doing i'm like that makes literally no sense because now i in an urban area. We went to the middle of nowhere. Now, all of a sudden, I'm hearing what the Democrats are doing. I'm like, that makes literally no sense because now I understand what it's like to be in the middle of nowhere. The one thing I realized is how come I wasn't hearing the inverse? How come I wasn't living in the city hearing policies about why we need to legalize raising livestock in our homes? Because Republicans don't fight for things. So if you live in an urban environment
Starting point is 00:55:25 and you hear the debate in Washington, you're probably thinking like this debate makes sense. The Republicans are insane for denying this. If you move to a rural area, you hear the debate and you're like, why aren't the Republicans fighting for what we need where we live? I think a lot of these young leftists grow up in cities. They don't understand that. I mean, we can of already have it. We have it. That's why they're not trying to change it. Like you were saying, laws get made, but they don't get broken apart enough.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Maybe they should have sunset clauses built in. Yes. There are books called like ridiculous laws or whatever. There's like some law where you can't take showers on Tuesdays In like Massachusetts or something like that Some town There's laws where it's like you can't put an apple pie on your windowsill on Sunday afternoons And these laws made sense at the time But they were passed when there were like 300 people Living in the city and now there's 500,000
Starting point is 00:56:15 So it's like Not being able to shower on Tuesdays was because They had you know a certain amount of water Or like you know The city was you know limited in some capacity you can't have you know pies on your windowsill on sunday because something was happening the church dollars were coming home you don't want to tempt them i don't know what not about tempting but just about like you know just they had reasons for the stuff that don't make sense anymore
Starting point is 00:56:38 so the so the term balkanization i mean it's still kind of a newer concept for us right and so i mean not it's it's newer in the cultural conversation for sure um you know it's at least since the civil war i guess that would be a good way of saying it but so perhaps when we're talking about balkanization we're also thinking about it in the same way that we tend to address like hyper aggressive authoritarianism they're really like very very far out concepts like for us we could move towards balkanization by moving towards decentralization and not actually have to reach full-out balkanization but and that would be something that you do in degrees you don't just go okay cool we're breaking apart here's the lines we're done but that requires certain things of people to do as citizens like
Starting point is 00:57:21 you know agree that we shouldn't elect people that threaten their own population with violence or whatever like that. You could do that. I think the issue, you know, one of the things they brought up in the study was most people are actually just saying they want power. So 66 percent of Republicans in the South want to secede. But would they be saying that when Trump was president? Maybe not. Maybe not. Because they have the power right now. And so therein lies the problem that Joe Biden comes out and he's like, I will crush my enemies. And the establishment Dems are going, yes. And they're clapping and cheering for it.
Starting point is 00:57:57 That, I think, is the most dangerous part. making it culturally acceptable to overtly express from a position of power in politics while also feigning the act of being the victim, that we think it is good to exact violence on our opponents. I think it's a very, very specific reason why we don't do that in public. That's why I was saying I'm more worried about the establishment than the populist leftists. There's an issue. I'm saying populist. I'm not saying Antifa authoritarians and black lives matter those they serve the establishment i'm saying like you
Starting point is 00:58:29 know the the left's arguments about all this stuff i'm kind of like yeah whatever dude i live in the middle of nowhere like have your hippie commune have your health care whatever let's you know if if this if the states break apart to regional unions you can go move to the one that better suits your needs i would say the biggest problem with it is china that's what i've long said that china just takes over the moment this happens they go thank you taiwan's theirs what's the history of the balkans anywhere are you guys familiar with how did it shatter what was it before it balkanized and then uh what was it after kosovo i know was part of that serbia well i don't know see because it used to be man i'm just i'm not educated enough on but i've what i message from someone. They're like, I was in the Balkans when I think it was the Kosovo War.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And they're like, it was like Nazi Germany. It was worse. I think they actually said it was worse than Nazi Germany. And I don't think they were in Nazi Germany. But it was just like, I mean, I don't know, but mass, mass chaos. It's interesting. You know what's really interesting about this is there's been a lot of like legit far right people several years ago were talking about wanting to balkanize the U.S. And we all scoffed and laughed at the idea.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Now they have a poll coming out where it's like apparently Americans want to do this. I think it's bad in the long run. We don't want China to take over. I mean, we've got problems here. Joe Biden's a nut. The Democrats and the neocons are really, really bad. The establishment politicians are really bad. But look at the show we're allowed to do that we wouldn't be allowed to do if we lived in China.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Oh, I know. What do you think about the American-Russian relations? I personally feel like the United States and Russia should be the most intimate of allies to protect the Earth. Yeah. I mean, I don't know about that. Two of the largest land masses on Earth. They're not authoritarian Chinese Communist Party. Russia has more land than Pluto.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Russia doesn't really. What? Whoa. It's gigantic. Holy cow. Yeah, Russia's massive. But most of it's, a lot of it's Siberia, but that's still cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Because if that ice melts away, yeah, if it warms up. I would love to preserve the Arctic with a global... Let me tell you something. I was in Moscow once at the airport. When you board a plane in the United States, the lady goes, now boarding group one. And you get up and advantage members and global pass or whatever they call it. And then everyone in group one, you're sitting there on your phone. They get up and they go to board one by one.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Now boarding group two. Group two gets up. So I'm in Russia at the Moscow airport transferring. I was flying to Ukraine. And they announced, now boarding group one. Every single person got up
Starting point is 01:00:53 and ran full speed, like literally running, but like rushing and then shoving each other out of the way and waving their tickets at the lady. And then the lady would like just grab one and then beep and the guy would squeeze his way through
Starting point is 01:01:04 and go on the plane. It was not boarding by anything it was just chaos and i was like this is weird and i talked to my friend who was ukrainian about it and the general conversation was when she was she was saying is yeah that's normal like that's how that's like eastern european people did all the time and i was like that's so weird in america we just like group one boards and you get up and you sit there and you wait because if you go up without your ticket they'll tell you hey you're not group one go sit down and then what she basically said was during the soviet union the people who survived were the ones who are going to steal the extra loaf of bread who are going to surreptitiously gain extra food somehow or cheat on their on their you know books
Starting point is 01:01:43 or whatever or get money or illegally sell things or smuggle. The people who would do whatever it took to get what they wanted to survive. And now these people are the children and some of them lived in the Soviet Union. So who survived for those hundred years of Soviet communist oppression? The people who are willing to rush to the front of the line to grab that loaf of bread before someone else got it. They had kids. They grew up. And that's the culture that persisted.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Now, it wasn't – the conversation wasn't – that was the general idea of the conversation. And I was like, wow, dude. So there's problems with Russia and many of the former Soviet states in that the Soviet Union created survivors. It created countries of people who would do whatever it took to survive. And with that comes pros and cons. So what is Russia? Vladimir Putin? We must take power. We must. We must. We must succeed. We mustn't give up. Former KGB guy. The United States is not like that. Now it's kind of being like that because the idea because America has been so lax and so accepting with all these good times. We let, you know, Wolf Fox in the hen house, and now we got the ideologues taking over the government. Mark Milley has gone as woke as woke can get.
Starting point is 01:02:49 That dude's cracked out of his mind. Mark Milley has lost it. Like, dude's nuts. Cultist, fully ideologue. That's scary. And so the – I don't know what you'd call it, but the pragmatic, you know, reasonable mind is not winning this one.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Russia does not have it, and I'm not saying that to be disrespectful, but the mentality of Russia is very much like Vladimir Putin. There's rumors that he's the richest man on the planet because he controls all this money. He's a permanent political president or whatever in Russia. It's just... I don't know about all that
Starting point is 01:03:25 man yeah it's pretty disgusting but you know you know so it's being human in a lot of ways you got to poop every day that's pretty gross yeah but what i mean to say is it looks like authoritarianism is on the rise everywhere even in the u.s i uh i would say there's a silver lining to russia's authoritarianism because the countries that remember what communism is like are going to be some of the last bastions of Western strength, I think, like Hungary, Poland, Estonia, Romania, all of these little countries, they will never go back to communism.
Starting point is 01:03:55 And the further you get, I think the further you get from communism, the more likely you are to repeat it. I think that's what we're seeing in the US. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you look into the, you know, the Marxism is an interesting thing. He just thought it was like that.
Starting point is 01:04:08 You're talking about Hegelian dialectics and it's wiser people than me that have talked about this. He more or less thought it was inevitable. And you also look at the concept of insurgency, which is a topic that I've been studying more recently. And it's very interesting to see that insurgency is sort of like it preys on the natural weaknesses of liberal democracies is what it does. Yes. So what you kind of get is when I think of communism, I think of something like it's a fever you're going to get every century, and if you can survive it, you get another hundred years. But if you don't survive it, it takes –
Starting point is 01:04:41 Do you see what the Democrat – what Black Lives Matter and AOC have said about Cuba? Yeah, that's some creepy stuff. What is up with Black Lives Matter praising Castro? Is that real? Hold on. Yes. Absolutely it's real. They were saying rest in power, Castro.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Mark Milley, our general, supports that. This dude – this is dark stuff. And you know what? Trump should have fired the guy. But anyway – I mean this is fre dark stuff. And you know what? Trump should have fired the guy. But anyway, I mean, this is freaky stuff. You got AOC and Black Lives Matter coming out saying it's not Cuba's fault. It's not communism's fault. It's America's fault.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I love this idea because it's so socialist. It's so communist that if if Ian is hungry, it's my fault for not giving him my food. It's like, OK, I could help him. I could. But Ian's food is Ian's responsibility, not not mine were you preventing me from getting the food from getting my food yeah so was america like sanctioning cuba and keeping it down america wasn't trading with cuba before castro got into power i think this was mostly having to do with the communist revolution but but regardless does cuba have land does cuba have fish does america have an obligation to trade with countries that
Starting point is 01:05:50 are actively working against them no ian what do you got in that war room pandemic i don't want to tell you tim well if you i'm suffering and i want it no give it to mine stay off my coffee my suffering is the fault of ian for not giving me mug. That's propaganda. Don't listen to him for it. That's what they're saying. That America, because America is not giving them stuff, it's our fault they're suffering. It's not just what they're saying.
Starting point is 01:06:15 It's what they believe. And that's a bigger problem because people act on beliefs. Bro, this is the perfect two-year-old toddler tantrum mentality. You see that video of the woman falling on the ground and screaming because she was being filmed? No, but is the perfect two-year-old toddler tantrum mentality. You see that video of the woman falling on the ground and screaming because she was being filmed?
Starting point is 01:06:28 No, but I've heard of it. Stop filming me! That perfectly exemplifies millennials for the most part, unfortunately. Not all millennials are bad. We seem to be good people. You guys seem to be good people. But what happens is
Starting point is 01:06:39 Cuban people are in revolution saying, down with dictatorship, libertad! And then AOC is like, America should give them free stuff. What? What are you talking about? No, no, no, no, no. AOC, you give them your free stuff. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Do it yourself. Don't do it with somebody else's stuff. Do it yourself. I just looked this up. It's July 26, 1953 was the beginning of the Cuban Revolution. It ended January 1, 1959. So about a six-year revolution. That is after 1946, which is when the liberal of the Cuban Revolution. It ended January 1st, 1959. So about a six-year revolution.
Starting point is 01:07:08 That is after 1946, which is when the liberal economic order was established, basically the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower told us about. And it's possible that America was suppressing the hell out of that country. In what way? I really don't know. See, at this point, like Forrest and I were talking about conspiracy theories, and kind of the problem with them is that you want to believe something is true because it gives you a sense of empowerment to be like i get it yeah so there's something good about me that i understand they uh so first and foremost i think people should
Starting point is 01:07:35 be responsible for themselves like i look i believe in charity i like social programs but people are responsible for themselves to it great degree. If you don't have food, I may be a good person and help you. But if you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. If you teach a man a fish, you feed him for the rest of his life. In the end, if I ultimately say, bro, there's a homeless guy outside and he's like, let me sleep in your house. And I'm like, no, you are causing my suffering. It is your fault. Then activists show up and they're like, the only reason this man is suffering is because Tim Pool won't let him in his house. It's like, no, you are causing my suffering. It is your fault. Then activists show up and they're like, the only reason this man is suffering is because Tim Pool won't let him in his house. It's like, no, the dude is responsible for his own shelter, man.
Starting point is 01:08:11 To a point, but the French Revolution. No, literally to period. But if there's a monarch that's hoarding all the materials so that the people are starving and suffering, it is the monarch's fault. Why? Because he's by force keeping them from their stuff. Wait, wait, wait. The stuff that their community has produced. So can they, like, leave?
Starting point is 01:08:32 It depends. It depends on the situation. You can't even leave. That actually is a good question because where are you going to go? Are you going to go west? Right. You're going to the middle of the woods.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Oh, yeah. I mean, that works with us. My point is about Cuba. Yeah. Cuba's food the middle of the woods. Oh, yeah. I mean, that works with us. My point is about Cuba. Yeah. Cuba's food problem is Cuba's problem. Cuba's medicine problem is Cuba's problem. There is no obligation from any other country to give to them. Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And it is not America's fault they don't have stuff. And in the Cold War, when you side against our enemies, we are not obligated to feed you when your social experiment fails. Yeah, we had a Cuban missile crisis. It's the same thing with conservatives. It's like, you know, they're not obligated to... Not conservatives. It's like, okay, let's use a really good example. I mean, you know, a lot of people even rag on Ayn Rand's argument
Starting point is 01:09:15 through Atlas Shrugged. It's like, at some point in time, the people providing are going to stop doing it. And then your arguments, your high handed, you know, moral arguments on the greatest good for the greatest number won't mean a thing. That's exactly it. Let's say America didn't exist at all.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Oh no, Cuba can't trade to get food from America because there isn't one. To be entirely fair, American foreign policy has not always had the highest end goals in mind. We see that in the Middle East. I don't know enough about Cuba and the embargo there.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I'm just saying that I don't really trust the U.S.'s, like, high-handed assertions of what they're doing anymore. Bro, these commies, communism comes to being when entitled people think they are owed things and then want to take them from you i actually disagree with you on that one you don't think that's where communism comes from i think communism comes from your your the i think i think communism comes from a base morality of selfishness i just wanted that i don't think it's entitlement. Well, I think entitlement is this thing of like there are things owed to me, perhaps because I exist or because of other things. I think communism is born out of malice. It's I don't like you and I'm better than you. And if I believe this, I'm holier than you.
Starting point is 01:10:40 No, I mean authoritarianism maybe. But that's like – What's the difference between i mean authoritarianism maybe but that's like what you're the point of what's the difference between communism and authoritarianism communism is communism is literally about the ownership by the community meaning you have people who are like i should that should be mine so it's the like marxism the abolishment of private property right you know it's not owned by the by the commons by the people it's not the it never functions it's not the abolishment of private property it's the abolishment of your property
Starting point is 01:11:06 for my benefit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you look at the things like, if you look at what AOC is saying, you look at what the squad is talking about and things like that, they're basically saying other people have things that I want and I should they should be given to me. Yeah, so we are saying the same thing, but I think it's fundamentally not born out of like an intellectual deficiency.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I think it's fundamentally born out of a moral deficiency. I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah, these't have never lifted a heavy object in their lives a communism ends in mass murder always because it requires absolute uh what do you call it um everyone needs to do it willingly if if one objector exists then this the entire system collapses because we all pull our resources you get you give all your resources you give all of yours lydia gives all of hers i give all of mine but then i go wait no i want to keep this that act alone now the only thing that you can do is either dissolve the whole system because it broke or you have to kill me it requires it well gulag or steal your stuff well i got really loud
Starting point is 01:11:59 there for a second yeah i mean but why does it why does it always fail in that same manner it's because it requires absolute volunteerism. If you have one person who says, no, I don't think so, for good reason or evil, it doesn't matter. I don't want to be a part of your experiment. For whatever reason, by their own choice, it fails at that moment. That's why right libertarianism is the best. If the United States elected an actual right libertarian, a Dave Smith, for instance, and he was like, I'm going to leave you alone and do your thing, then the hippies could have their commune. The left libertarians, I think it was Ron Paul who said it, it's like, in America, you can create your own commune.
Starting point is 01:12:37 No one's stopping you. It's that these people want your stuff. That's what they're actually doing. They want you to uphold them when their system fails. There is, I think there's more than one successful communes. They have about a hundred people and they don't allow it to go larger than that. So you can apply to join and then as soon
Starting point is 01:12:52 as someone leaves, next in line gets admitted into the commune. Everybody has jobs and you all live and everything's shared but there are people who own it and run it. So who was it that was saying that all the most successful communes have been Christian or religious based? Is that true?
Starting point is 01:13:07 I think yesterday. Yeah. Throughout history. Then you also have things like the Gnostics, but they kind of died in the desert. If everybody believes in the same ideology, then your commune works. Yeah, because you have a shared sense of belief. You can't have
Starting point is 01:13:23 communism and multiculturalism. You can't have communism and multiculturalism. Right. You can't have communism and, you know, it's fundamentally incompatible with basically all human. Well, actually, I mean, honestly, I think that a functioning country probably needs some kind of religion. Yes. How deep do you want to go into the definition of a religion? Yeah, money is a type of religion. It needs a shared ideology.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Yeah, it needs a shared. So if a religion is not so much a belief in, like, a supernatural god, but rather a hierarchy of values, again. A moral framework. A moral framework. So my religion is the, what I call a religion is the hierarchy of values. Whatever's at the top of that is my god. So if I am calling myself an atheist, I'm also calling myself god because it is my mind that determines everything that is real. It's sort of, it's my mind that determines what's right and wrong.
Starting point is 01:14:08 If I don't use something outside of me to inform me on what is right and wrong, I am saying my mind is the ultimate authority on right and wrong, at least within my existence. And I don't think that's a completely unrespectable position. You just need to be humble and honest and realize that's what it is. And so, yeah, a religion
Starting point is 01:14:24 is an ordered hierarchy of values. And if a culture doesn't have a unified hierarchy of values, how would it work together? Multi-ideologyism doesn't work. I like that word. Salad, though. Multi-ideologyism. Yeah, that is a word.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Yeah, I like it. So in the U.S., having a bunch of different ideologies doesn't work? No. Well, yeah, I mean, I know. What does it mean to work? You know, I mean, it provides opportunity to debate things. That's for sure. True.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Well, it doesn't work in the sense that without social cohesion, it vulcanizes. No, yeah. Exactly. And everyone fights each other. In a way, the U.S. dollar, I think, is modern religion. I mean, bro, look at the child drag shows. Like, come on. Like, there is
Starting point is 01:15:05 a hard line for for a lot of regular people but the left supports the child stripping 100 they defended every turn probably on tribal grounds because they don't actually care because they have no more like this is the funniest thing i think a lot of conservatives need to realize not not just conservatives but like i don't know what you call that leftist group okay because i'm fairly revolutionary in a lot of respects like i want to change i think the country needs to change a whole lot i'm all like federal reserve get it out of there you know conservatives were like stop we're going to keep things the same i'm like you know let's change it all but i think i draw the line with the kids stripping for money at the very least and what a lot of people who are in the culture war right don't understand is these people don't share your values at all.
Starting point is 01:15:50 There's a video of a four-year-old twerking, and they're all laughing and clapping and cheering as that happens. Yeah, there are people in this country that value stripping you of your right to own a firearm as a good thing. They don't think of it as a means to an end. They think of it as a good thing. Yeah, you shouldn't have a gun, yeah it doesn't matter like you you they view you as subhuman if it's a human right to own a firearm and they say you don't have the right here they're they're viewing you as subhuman the only reason it's all put it this way with it with the child stripping why aren't uh people like running like why aren't there armed men shutting down child stripping and
Starting point is 01:16:27 grooming shows why aren't people in new york going up and being like stop what you're doing to this four-year-old child right now put that camera away and stop this twerking in new york they overwhelmingly have the same moral framework they like it they celebrate it and the people who don't are probably leaving like could you imagine somebody who is you know probably like take somebody who's you know probably opposed to the rioting in black lives matter someone who's pro two-way but would choose to live in minneapolis like they'd have to be a psychopath right thanks right well i did read a book once that confirmed it so i guess i'm a psychopath now there you go thanks grossman yeah you're a hero i'm only half kidding i mean people
Starting point is 01:17:11 are leaving people are leaving the city i don't want to live in this place i can't imagine this as we move down this path to where you get prominent progressive channels with millions of followers praising and defending child stripping i'm like that's not going to last because when you have like with the james younger case in texas where a dad says my son is my son and the mom says my son is actually my daughter and is trans at a certain point a parent is going to be like do not touch my child yeah and then and then what i mean it'll change when parents actually value their children. You know, like we talk about in the public school system. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I mean, I've used this example a couple times before, but it's my classic frustration. Is you have a middle class dad, a father, and he has a kid who's in public school. And that father, every time you see him, all you're going to hear him do is rail against the public school system. While he works his 9 to 5 and his kid goes to the public school system and so for 18 years you just hear the same thing public school system blah blah blah blah then suzy turns 18 and dad takes 140 000 that he has saved up and sends suzy to college where he continues to complain and she ends up a communist and hates him yeah what. Like, you failed as a father. I saw, I think it was a Reddit post where a guy was like,
Starting point is 01:18:28 my daughter came back, you know, for a break, for like spring break or something. And when she left, she was a normal, you know, high school kid, graduated. Now her head's shaven, she's wearing weird makeup, and she tells me she hates me and I'm evil. It's like, yeah, well, pay attention. I'll tell you this man this idea that parents had where it's like i can ignore what my child's my my child's life is like what they're being taught and what they're being indoctrinated with i can ignore the the raising
Starting point is 01:18:58 of my child and they'll be okay psychotic yes people are people care more about the the their pet's life than their child their their child has become a pet that they put up with and they you know feed it and then whatever but like i think that's very serious i i have to say this with absolute like seriousness family raising and raising a family is your most important responsibility as a parent, I guess I have to say this not having kids yet of my own, but is to pass your values onto your children so that they will be – because if they're your values, you believe in them. Maybe they want their kids to be commies who hate them. No, I mean it's the same thing. Let's just say I have any – insert any value. If I believe that the Second Amendment is a moral value, I don't think that people owning firearms is a utility against a foreign government or against corruption in our government.
Starting point is 01:19:54 I don't believe it is a utility argument, although it could have one. I think that owning a firearm, firearms ownership on the citizen level is fundamentally a moral problem. It is moral that people say this is my country. I have investiture in problem. It is moral that people say, this is my country. I have investiture in it. It is my land. I am a part of it. I am part of this country. Therefore, I take personal responsibility within my community to be able to do that.
Starting point is 01:20:16 So if I think that's a value and then I have a kid and say, believe whatever you want, man, I don't want to push my beliefs on you. You don't believe those things. They're just a fashion statement to you. You kind of just passed that belief on to me because if we were in a tribe 7,000 years ago and there were wild animals trying to attack and kill the tribe, if you didn't pick up a spear and attack and defend, you were acting immorally. Your moral duty as a human to produce a weapon and defend
Starting point is 01:20:45 your tribe. That's kind of why we're seeing what we're seeing, I suppose. But it's the government's monopoly on violence that I think is keeping everything in check because I'll tell you this, man, there's probably a lot of people who are more traditionalist and not even necessarily far right or even particularly that
Starting point is 01:21:01 conservative who are looking at what's going on with the abuse of children in this country, particularly in cities, and their eyes are probably twitching and veins are throbbing. And it's scary stuff. I mean, how can this country survive? I see this this this poll about the balkanization, you know, 37.2 percent want to want to want to break apart. And I say, I get it.
Starting point is 01:21:22 I watched that video of that kid stripping for money at a club with men throwing money at him and i totally understand why people say get new york and la out of my country because what else do you do about it stop legislating federally led i don't know more more local law that's a culture issue they that what you're talking about is a call no no um city council came together and said we're going to make a child strip in front of other people. That was a cultural decision. And those people do not have
Starting point is 01:21:52 your culture. And their culture is in opposition of yours. It's incompatible. You run in the great I'm going to use this as sarcastically as possible. This great idea that all roads lead to Rome, that all religions are just the same,
Starting point is 01:22:10 is ridiculous because all of them describe evil in completely different ways. I think it's funny. There's this weird meme where people keep calling me an atheist, and I don't know where that came from. What? You're agnostic, right? You're atheist. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:22:19 I believe in God. Okay. He's atheist. I'm kind of agnostic. Oh, yeah, I am. A. No, I'm not theistic in the sense that i follow scripture or anything like that but i believe in god how do you fall in this
Starting point is 01:22:28 realm oh for like religious yeah yeah you'd call it i'm a reformed christian yeah does that mean uh so reformed is somewhat follows from the tradition of calvin and there's there's i mean you can go multiple different ways but think of it as like within the christian within what people refer to as christianity there are certain things that are sort of necessary doctrine. So when you talk about praxie, that comes from a religious concept of doxie, doctrine, versus praxis, practice. So orthodoxy, what is the accepted belief, and orthopraxy, what is the accepted practice? So for me, one of the things is in the tension between the human free will and the sovereignty of God.
Starting point is 01:23:11 So if God knows all things, is all powerful, and is outside of time, do we really have free will? I think that free will is something – I live as though I have free will, but according to doctrine, I think that the sovereignty of God is much more important. I think it's much more closer to being true. So that means... Did you see that lightning strike, bro? Yeah, I heard about it. The George Floyd mural getting struck by lightning, blowing out the brick wall.
Starting point is 01:23:39 I checked the weather on that day, and it was sunny with scattered clouds. In the photos, the ground was mostly dry, which is to insinuate it rained very briefly. Just enough for a lightning strike on the George Floyd mural. That's freaky stuff. A lot of people were saying it was a sign, God has spoken. There's memes of a hand coming out of clouds with a gun. And I'm like, you know, look, sometimes lightning strikes buildings.
Starting point is 01:24:03 It happens actually all the time, and this one happened to have a George Floyd mirror on it. The agnosticism in me really shows, as one person told me, hey, one lightning strike doesn't prove anything. And I thought, well, it doesn't disprove it either. That's true. Yeah? Well, what's the chance that the lightning would strike a building and blow out the George? That people were focusing on a lot? Not?
Starting point is 01:24:23 If the human mind is a bunch of electrical magnetic i've seen some stuff man like i'll tell you if there was one thing that really like snapped something in my head it was watching that kid strip on stage and the left cheering for and clapping and seeing that four-year-old little girl twerking and they're cheering for it and i'm like dude i am like left lib hippie on a farm, live and let live, be happy. And they're doing these things to kids like there is evil in this world, man. Then that lightning strike with everything I've seen, I'm like, man, you know. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:24:55 It makes you wonder. Can you finish how you were about to say something about the dichotomy between orthodoxy and ortho? Oh, not the dichotomy between orthodoxy and praxis but the tension between human free will and the sovereignty of god so like so our the question is are humans actually do we have free will and like we think so like we generally think so but from like a theological doctrine it's these two uh concepts exist in tension and so while i so what i would say is I believe and I believe that God is sovereign, as in like everything from gravity is the continual action of God. We are living through God's continual process of creation. And so in some ways it's determined, but we're not capable of seeing it.
Starting point is 01:25:37 And the measurement or the mechanism of its determination, being determined is bigger than our capacity to observe. Gravity? All of reality. Because in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, right? So if God created, then I don't think that he created the earth and just said, okay, cool, let's see how this experiment plan plays out. I think that the act that we're seeing, the world that we're seeing right now,
Starting point is 01:25:58 is he's continuously upholding the world as it is. So the professor of mine that I studied under said, salt dissolves in water every time the same time because god is consistent and he and he you by his will has salt dissolve in water every time exactly the same way he that what we call laws of nature are just his continual action so that's that's on a metaphysics level and then from like historical and and i what i believe evil is so the problem of evil how can a all-perfect god all-knowing god and are all-powerful all-knowing and all-good god create a world where there's evil this is not a very intelligent question people usually use it
Starting point is 01:26:37 as a stomping question it's not a very intelligent question because people have been answering it for 2 000 years if you're just coming to that now and you don't read a book, you're not asking the question, honestly. I'm just going to jump to the table. It's a difficult question and multiple theologians have answered it over the time, but the one that I fall under is that evil is the absence of God. So man, sin entered the world as humankind sinned against God and they became less than they were intended to. So it's the absence of God. If God is the source of life, he's the source of all these other things. So that's kind of, and that's on what is evil, what is good.
Starting point is 01:27:14 Good, God writes the laws of morality in the same way that he writes the laws of science. They're absolute. We just think of laws in human creations where I can break a human law and get away with it. But you can't break the law of God and get away with it. So do you think that lightning strike is God coming back to the scene in some way or something? No, I don't. You think just sometimes lightning strikes? Yeah, I think it's very dangerous to pretend that me, a human, can interpret something as the will of god when he gave us scripture
Starting point is 01:27:46 and now and and we have and that's hard enough for me to comprehend i'm so i don't i do believe that god acts in our world i'm just very very very skeptical when i see something happen so that because i don't want to get caught up in this this storm of like for lack of better words i don't want to i don't think it's respectful even in a theological sense to interpret everything as if it's like oh god is speaking to me i think that's a little dangerous but taking psychedelics no but to be consistent if the act of salt dissolving in water is the process of God using his power to make it happen, like continuing a scientific process, then how would it not be consistent to say that something like a lightning strike could be interpreted as God moving and acting? Let me rephrase myself then. Yes, you're correct in that.
Starting point is 01:28:37 I will cede that point. Yes, it is God chose that to happen at that point, that time in that place right my i however i don't necessarily i think i need to be humble in recognizing is that that event happening the significance of it is so that i will think something or i will see it is it a sign is the question i'm saying and i'm very very cautious about seeing things as signs because those are things that you have to take very seriously for example if you you know if I say God spoke to me and told me to do something or whatever, and I don't do it, I am either lying or that is an absolute sin because I have irrefutable evidence within the construct of my mind
Starting point is 01:29:19 that he came to me and said, drink that soda, and I don't drink that soda. I'm just basically saying, well, you are not God anymore. I don't care. And it's a huge issue there. But then on the flip side, if you say that God told me to do something and he did not, you are lying. In my mind, that is the form. That is literally speaking for God.
Starting point is 01:29:41 That is taking God's name in vain. Yeah, very much so. And so it's one of those things where when you address these issues from a very serious level, if you take your faith seriously, you will not be flippant with lucid interpretations as if they're signs specifically
Starting point is 01:29:58 from God telling you to do something. Because you will take any, you take interpretation very, very, very seriously. And that's where I see the big difference in. I used to take signs too something because you will take any you take interpretation very very very seriously and that's where i see the big difference in i used to take signs too seriously it was driving me slowly insane like i would see two birds flying and i'd be like that means that i will find love and it was like you're going nuts crossland take a step back he's become self-aware everyone maybe from maybe there is a grand arcing coercive plan but i don't know and i think it falls in the same line of conspiracy theory in the sense of it produces some of the same effects.
Starting point is 01:30:29 It's just a religious version of it. Because, like, yeah, when you're seeing everything as the conspiracy of the Illuminati, you go crazy. Because you lose your ability to accurately perceive to your own ability the actual world. Because everything has to be seen through the lines of the conspiracy. Do you think God functions with intention? Absolutely. Yeah, he's a person. How would you define intention?
Starting point is 01:30:53 I think we understand intention because we understand that God has a will. I think I wouldn't say I understand my intention and I'm going to ascribe that to God. I think that to you and i we have intention because i have both desires and when i when i pick up this magazine i'm picking it up to do something when i'm writing if my writing is not an act of intention if i'm not creating out of intent am i creating no and so the act of creation itself is a sign of intent. Well, there you go. How about we take some super chats?
Starting point is 01:31:29 I love it. If you have not already, give that like button a nice little tap. Subscribe to this channel. Go to TimCast.com. Become a member. I'm just looking forward to waking up on Monday and seeing that new site. Oh, my God, finally. It looks really nice. Because within the next, I think next, what are we at?
Starting point is 01:31:44 About a week from now, week and a half, we're going to start working on the production for the new show. The name has not been released yet. We're going to secure all the domains
Starting point is 01:31:53 and all the social medias and all that stuff. And then we're going to actually have some writers who do, I don't know what the right word is. I don't want to say investigation, but like, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:04 the X-Files. I think the X-Files is kind of a cool way say investigation, but like, you know, the X-Files. I think the X-Files is kind of a cool way to think about it. Have you guys seen the X-Files, right? I'm aware of it. It's not just one thing. It's kind of like looking in
Starting point is 01:32:13 from a skeptic's point of view of what these things could possibly be and exploring these spooky stories and having fun with it. So that's coming, baby. Smash that like button. Let's see what we got.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Michael Luce says says i'm an audio engineer and composer i've worked with the tennis channel wwe and wrote music for a local award writing indie films daily emails aren't getting your attention so i knew i had to step it up more samples coming your way well the issue is um we we might have somebody and we have thousands of emails and i can't answer all of them. So I apologize, man. It kind of sucks. You're like, hey, I want to send my email in, but there's only so many people here who can actually read every email, and we literally couldn't do it. It's kind of like if you're looking for a drop of water and someone hands you a bucket of water, you're like, where are all the drops? They're all in there, but it just looks like water.
Starting point is 01:33:00 It's like I said, I need a glass of water, and they handed me a bucket, so I took a cup, and I scooped out a cup of water, and all of that other water is saying, no, but I want to be in the cup. It's like, sorry, bro. We're not saying we're not happy with you being water, but we can only fit so much in the cup. It's a sign from God. That's right. All right.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Let's see. Broken Word says, if the point of the show is to red pill Ian, then the red pill is the only pill Ian hasn't tried by his own admission. I want to go so deep on so many things. My mind, I would like to hear that chat again, super chat again. We need a meme of like all these different
Starting point is 01:33:35 colored pills in front of Ian. And then the next panel is he's eating them all and he's just blasted out of his mind with the red ones just sitting there. Like the one you didn't eat. I feel like I got red pilled when I, what was it, Aaron Russo's, what did Aaron Russo do, that movie he did, 2007? It wasn't Loose Change, was it? Loose Change?
Starting point is 01:33:53 Zeitgeist, Loose Change, all these things about 9-11, the war in Iraq. I feel like I got so red-pilled, and now I just have to keep saying, like, most people didn't get it back then. And I just was like just like yo just stay cool man stay under the radar chill and find a solution but i would love to talk about some of this stuff um i just don't talk about on the show all right redeemed one says my wife is a five foot tall latina from mexico who supported trump months before i did she regularly buys recoil magazine and the looks she gets at checkout are priceless. Aw, thank you.
Starting point is 01:34:26 I'm happy to hear that. And by the way, you also can subscribe to the magazine on our website, Recoil Web. That's the best way to get it for the best price consistently. Awesome. Do you ever put barcodes in the magazine that you can scan? It'll take you to a secret web page. Let's talk after. I like it.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Oh, snap. I like it. Chuckin Shank says, as a 26-year first time father to be the crew and the good people they are surrounding themselves with gives me great hope thank you from the three of us oh congratulations that's exciting thank you doug smith says i just noticed someone gave you five dollars more than me so so here's another $10. Oh, there you go. Unacceptable. All right, let's see. Menzikoski? If trust is broken in one place,
Starting point is 01:35:14 restrictions are imposed everywhere. CCP and the Biden administration. Interesting. Keith McCracken says, I understand to some extent to why the Cuban people use the American flag as a symbol against their government. What I think is that they need to create a flag
Starting point is 01:35:28 to represent their freedom. It was hot, though. I was feeling you for a second, Lydia. That was hot. Did you guys feel how hot it was like 30 seconds ago? Yeah, I was trying to kick up. We have a new air conditioner in the studio room. Even though we're moving from this room to a new studio room, which is going to be crazy.
Starting point is 01:35:45 It looks cool. The table is going to be mounted to the ceiling. Ooh. Super creative guys working on it. I'm stoked. So is it like hanging? Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:53 It'll be hanging from like some bars. The bars that we hang it from are going to be used to mount the cameras and the lights and everything. So it's going to be really interesting. So we might have to put them on the cameras on the walls though. We'll see how we get it. It's going to be really interesting. We might have to put the cameras on the walls, though. We'll see how we get it. It's going to be fun. The room's technically a little bigger, but the ceiling's a standard ceiling,
Starting point is 01:36:10 whereas this one we have this elevated ceiling, so it gives you more space. Yeah, this one's an A-frame. The one down there is flat. Yeah. Yeah. Because this one's actually on top of that one. That's true. But it'll be cool.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Yeah. The AC will make sense there. Sorry about that, guys. No worries. I kind of like the temperature change. All right. Let's true. But it'll be cool. Yeah. The AC will make sense there. Sorry about that, guys. No worries. I kind of like the temperature change. All right, let's see. Malzy says, good evening, Timothy. You have a tremendous responsibility to tell the truth.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Only put forth that which can withstand the onslaught. Also, I'm relieved to see you don't wear toe rings. Thanks, you. Oh, is that because of the vlog? Oh, they got a clip of your foot? Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, because I was walking around on the mulberries. When you go to pick mulberries, they're everywhere, so your feet turn purple.
Starting point is 01:36:51 And then I made a joke about someone got a place on celebrity feet, I guess. But they're all covered in purple stains. That was the joke. That's weird. Weird, creepy, yeah. Mulberry OnlyFans foot count? I'm not a fan of mulberries. Really?
Starting point is 01:37:02 Yeah. I don't like them. The wine berries are kind of boring right yeah they're pretty the good news is um we got tons of pawpaw oh good yeah we got a lot of pawpaw and it's like hard to grow so we're really excited for this uh if you go to our sister page uh recoil off grid we do have articles like one of them is pawpaw is actually a really good survival food perfect so like if you want to go for more of like the survivalist side, it's all off grid. That's another magazine of ours.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Right on. And they're, yeah. Off grid looks cool. It's, yeah. It's really neat. John Doe says, Mr. Poole, we've been trying to reach you about your vehicle's extended warranty. It's all serious. It had to happen. We used to get a bunch of those.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Garant says, in regards to classifying the American left, they are race-based Marxists. The progressive stack exemplifies a racial caste system. Race-based Marxists support dehumanization to children. RBM has more in common with Germany with salutes than USA.
Starting point is 01:38:00 RBM is evil. Interesting. People don't like vosh yep i know it i'm people are saying a lot of stuff that's right yep ironclad vr says wisdom was traded for intelligence conversation on difficult difficult ideas help to build wisdom and fine-tune our intelligence on a different note i'm developing a game and want to work under the timcast umbrella how do uh send it to pitches at timcast.com let's see what that game is um i will say knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad what's that saying the continuation is that philosophy is trying to figure out if ketchup is a smoothie. That sounds disgusting. That's awesome.
Starting point is 01:38:46 Yeah, I was like, yeah. I have never heard that before. I saw that the other day. I was like, that's insane. Oh, yeah. Well, as someone who went to school for philosophy, I'm both offended and impressed at the same time. I know, it's true. It's accurate.
Starting point is 01:38:54 Yeah, but no, ketchup's not a smoothie. How do you figure? Well. Smoothies are cold? No, because you don't throw tomatoes into a blender to make ketchup. Oh, how do they make it? Well, first you have to get specific tomatoes. They have to be reduced.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Cook it down. You cook it down. You add sugar. Then you get a tomato paste. Then you mix like vinegar and spices. And that is knowledge. There you go. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Yeah. So to make a smoothie, you can literally walk outside, grab it. I'll make a tomato smoothie. I'll walk outside, grab a bunch of tomatoes, throw them in a blender, and then pour some ice in it, blend it up, and I got a tomato smoothie. Sounds pretty good. That's not the same thing. That sounds healthy.
Starting point is 01:39:29 If you took strawberries and you put them in a pot and you mashed them up and cooked them down, you would get a jam. Yeah, so it's more like a jam than a smoothie. But it's not. Ketchup's a jam. More of a jam. Because after you get the tomato paste, you then have to process it further. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Super processed jam. Yeah, come on. Come on. All right, right all right sorry sorry trying to trying to pull this philosophy junk ketchup you didn't even get me started what's mayonnaise oh gosh eggs it's it's actually puree yeah i've made mayonnaise before it's really fascinating yeah it's like it's an emulsion yeah yeah it's crazy isn't it then you said a rock it's an emulsion okay so rocks are emulsion i mean opals are an emulsion as well really is why i love them the rock yeah how's that it's weird it's crazy we'll talk about this after it's really interesting we'll get into it daniel bundrick says leftism is leftism is what happens when someone decides to give in and just wear the golden handcuffs. You know, I think it's a lot of – there's a reason young people are leftists.
Starting point is 01:40:29 And it's because the establishment manipulates ignorant people to gain power. And so you can have someone like me. People are like – someone commented, Tim, abandon leftism or whatever. And I'm like, dude, what left and right means is nebulous. It's like tribal signifiers or whatever. And I'm like, dude, what left and right means is nebulous. It's like tribal signifiers or whatever. But you have young people who are very much pro-establishment, like that 18-year-old girl who went with the Biden administration to support vaccines in children or whatever. It's like these kids would gladly go and cheer on the establishment, the state. They graffiti Black Lives Matter. It's like the joke I was making. It might as
Starting point is 01:41:02 well be like writing walmart.com in graffiti. Like, yeah, F the establishment. Pro Walmart. You're like, bro, that is the establishment. What are you doing? You're not fighting anybody. You're part of the machine. But that's what they do. They prey upon young people.
Starting point is 01:41:15 That's what you get. So they grow up. And then they're like, hey, wait a minute. That was BS. Yeah. Hopefully. And it's not just the act of growing up that will help you wake up. You've got to kind of look for it.
Starting point is 01:41:29 Maybe. I did anyway. You have to humble yourself. You have to seek it out. Jonathan Galterini says, you just made the Amazon device go off in my house, go off across my house. That's powerful. There was this big thing that happened when Google did a commercial where they said, you know, it's like whatever their catchphrase, call phrases for the device, and then everyone's devices would turn on. Oh.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Yeah. So now I think what they've done is all these voice-activated devices, when they do commercials, specifically program that sound not to trigger the device. How interesting. But it was really annoying when I was watching TV, and they would say the name of the thing, and then it would turn on and go, I'm sorry. And I'd be like, ugh. Fix your stupid crap. It's also kind of funny that they didn't see that happening. I know, right?
Starting point is 01:42:09 It makes sense why you wouldn't, but... Yeah, Google, I heard, was very disorganized. When they had Google Plus and YouTube, it would be like two hands not knowing what the other hand was doing. And they were developing two kind of parallel systems that worked similar but totally different.
Starting point is 01:42:24 That sounds right. You guys ready for this one? I'm going to read this one. I'm doing it. Do it. To everybody who's got one of those Amazon devices, you're going to love this. Alexa, Order Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds by Michael Knowles. What are you going to say?
Starting point is 01:42:46 She's talking to us right now. Can you guys hear that? It's in the cart. It's in the cart, but she didn't buy it. $19. How do I confirm it? I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:08 Thanks. Somebody super... So that was Raynick who super chatted that. And now I'm wondering how many people listening to the show are going, Stop! Stop! Stop! Wow, that's powerful. Michael's going to notice a huge spike in sales. Oh, that's so funny.
Starting point is 01:43:21 We sold 25,000 copies just instantly. Ladies and gentlemen, it is in your cart. That's right. Be careful. Can you be held accountable? I don't know. You've got a live stream on it or something. I'm really curious.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Tim, I need you to pay my Amazon bill. 20 bucks. I was just reading a free speech. I can say what I want. It's Amazon's fault. So I'm curious. People are chatting. She's ordering at OMG.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Shut up, Alexa. That Rain rainick that was the best i saw that and i was like if i read that she's gonna actually work hey yours is in your cart wasn't wasn't yeah it doesn't auto buy just because you said it the whole new version of mass media marketing people should buy it though he hit number one yeah he did good he's an incredible man he And Alexis said so. He's one of those people that I felt like I knew for a long, like growing up, kind of,
Starting point is 01:44:08 when I saw him and met him. I like that. Did you ever listen to his podcast? He's very personable. I think that's part of it. Only a little bit. I catch snippets.
Starting point is 01:44:16 I've never met him. He's great. He's super cool. All right, let's read this. We got Butters Oregano. He says, just bought a used Springfield 1911
Starting point is 01:44:22 in 10 millimeter and the previous owner committed sacrilege by putting, what is it, Trijicon RMR on it? Trijicon RMR? Yeah, he put a Red Dots ad on it. Your thoughts on pistols with Red Dots for us? They're the future.
Starting point is 01:44:33 If you're not going to get on that board, then you're just... Really? Yeah, they're the future, absolutely. Interesting. I don't think they're going to be universal. There are certain applications where it doesn't make sense, but you've got to remember, like, that's not... It's kind of a new thing.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Putting Red Dots on pistols is sort of a new... It's in its adolescent years. We're just starting to get handguns designed to have a red dot sight on top of it. It's easier to explain, and if you know what I'm talking about, most pistols have iron sights, but this one here, this revolver, it's got a little red dot sight. So if you think of like... So the revolver it's got a little red dot sight so if you think of like you know it's the so that's the revolver has one but like everyday carry defense handguns are now coming
Starting point is 01:45:10 either directly out of the box like the springfield hellcat's a really good example the rdp does but that's it what i'm going to say is red dots for those who are not real that are like hesitant of getting into red dots they have a distinct set of advantages and a very small set of disadvantages. What are those? The higher in advantages is we're seeing generally that once you get past the growing curve, performance goes up pretty well. Also, if you have to take shots at distance, the red dot is much faster. And another really good example that I use is just for human mechanics.
Starting point is 01:45:44 When I'm using a pistol with iron sights, what I do is my eye looks at what my target is, and then the focal plane comes back to the iron sight. So my focal plane is actually on the iron sight. When I'm using a red dot, I look at my target, and I put the dot on it, and I don't change my focal plane. So from a biomechanical method, it does make some sense. It's one less movement if you't change my focal plane. So from a biomechanical method it does make some sense. It's one less movement if you count moving your focal plane.
Starting point is 01:46:09 You think the average person's accuracy would improve with a red dot on a handgun? Yes, with a caveat. The growing curve, the learning curve on red dots mounted on handguns is awkward. Why's that? Because it's
Starting point is 01:46:24 I don't know how to say it otherwise. You need to build the muscle memory, which is not the right term. I know, don't go nuclear on me. But you need to build the habitual movements because aligning iron sights is a lot easier because you know when you're off, you know where you're off
Starting point is 01:46:40 because you know where the sights are. Whereas when you're off on the red dot, when it's not in the window because your pistol's canted, you don't know which way it is so you see people fishing for it and what you need to do is you need to spend the time dry firing it's not it doesn't take long and some models is easier um to to get over that curve but you need to practice with it until you can reliably every time i draw that handgun and i present it that dot is right in the center of that glass so much so that it's practiced once you get past that curve which you know could be can be accomplished with 100 rounds and a decent amount of dry fire practice which is just practicing without
Starting point is 01:47:15 ammunition otherwise 500 rounds but it's a deliberate thing you can and and the one of the reasons why a lot of people don't like red dots is because they don't want to put in the work to be able to use them. Understandably so if you're very casual. They also do have other downsides like they can be damaged by weather. They can get dirty. They require a battery. These are all disadvantages, but those advantages are getting smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller.
Starting point is 01:47:40 The Aimpoint Acro is a self-concealed little red dot that goes on a pistol. It's not going to be damaged by the environment in the same way that a Trijicon RMR is. So, yeah, if it's a sacrilege to put it on, I'd say the first sacrilege is that it's a 10mm 1911. Yeah, I figured. But, I mean, you know, you do you, boo. All right, Patrick Conover says, Tim, rail guns like flamethrowers and muzzle loaders are not classified as firearms and would likely similarly be unregulated at least on a federal level
Starting point is 01:48:11 do you think muzzle loaders are classified as firearms by youtube uh yes yeah they would do it and then the answer is as soon as you could effectively produce rail guns in your house they become guns right the moment that you can make them, then the government will be like, oh, hey, they're effective. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, hold on.
Starting point is 01:48:27 What if, what if, you hear me out, you have, imagine this as a metal circle with pipes coming out. There's, you know, so you've got three, you got basically eight pipes, right? And then you have a big magazine tube loaded with slugs and what happens is a steam engine spins the disc rapidly and the way it's it's it's made is that once every time it comes around a slug it gets slinged it grabs it then slings it as it spins rapidly would that be a gun that's a i was just thinking a steam-powered machine gun. I was just thinking the rail gun is an electromagnetic sling.
Starting point is 01:49:08 Thank you for saying that word, sling. So what I'm describing has actually been built before. Steam power spins this disc at a really high rate of speed, and then it grabs a slug and then whips it really fast and fires him forward. That's similar to the rail gun. Steam-powered Gatling gun or something. Crazy, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Is it considered ballistic if it's thrown? Is that considered ballistic if you throw something? Well, ballistic doesn't refer to it being fired out of a projectile through pressure. A ballistic is a thing. Just something moving. Ballistics is in regards to trajectory and impact of a projectile. So it would be ballistic, a rail gun, but it's still not considered a gun or rail cannon or whatever. I mean, they're called rail guns, right?
Starting point is 01:49:52 A spinny steam thingy. Yes. Perfect. Yeah, let's go back to that spinny steam thingy. Jack's Mountain Tea Dude says, someone gave more than me again, so here's $35, which is the price of our essential oil for muscle soreness. Oh, that sounds good. Relieved.
Starting point is 01:50:03 Free local delivery. Go Army. Nice, that sounds good. Relieved. Free local delivery. Go Army. Hey, good for them. Matt Bowler says, As I mentioned yesterday, you need to analyze the data further. Metadata is incredibly important, as you know, Tim, considering your objective analysis of journalism.
Starting point is 01:50:15 We're going to eventually have some data journalists, too, so they can better go through this stuff than me in my surface-level opinion, which is probably full of inaccuracies. Turk Longwell says, Tim, are you hard pivoting from civil war to balkanization? Also, I do daily YouGov polls. We need more people taking them. Be the voice.
Starting point is 01:50:34 I mean, look, when I say things like that, it's usually meant to be like a, hey, this thing's possible if these things keep happening. A lot of people seem to think that if I say something where it's like, wow, this kind of thing happening is like, puts us on this track. They're like, Tim has predicted this will happen. Then something funny happens. When it does happen, they're like, you predicted this. And I'm like, I just gave a bunch of vague possibilities. It's like Nostradamus, man, not hard to do. But then when it doesn't happen, they're like, you said it would happen. I'm like, I kind of didn't. I can't see the future man i'm just saying like i think some things are more possible so we i you know i was talking with uh sean fitzgerald the other day like after the show and i was just like everything we've seen since the
Starting point is 01:51:13 start of the culture war has only gotten worse considering that keeps happening i'm inclined to believe it will get worse that doesn't that doesn't mean the world's gonna end our lives are gonna suck like people live through these things and they get by. I think people will individually be fine. As a whole, though, the United States will experience some dark times. I mean, look what's happening with the White House being like, we're overtly colluding with big tech to censor people and we're going to make it worse.
Starting point is 01:51:36 Who would have thought we'd come to that point when we saw big tech censoring someone for saying learn to code, that it would turn into the White House press secretary saying, we want cross-platform censorship for anybody posting information that is inaccurate it's like wow that escalated somewhat quickly yeah i would say so so i always say this hey maybe today's the day that everyone just lays down their figurative sword and says i don't want to be engaged in the political battles anymore.
Starting point is 01:52:08 I want to hug my neighbor, and we're going to hold hands and sing into the sunshine. Is it possible? Sure. I just don't think that's likely. Right, because the real thing is when people stop thinking and have clear thought and have no thought, that's when we're really going to find human peace. It's not thinking, I love you, I want, I want. It's when there is no thought. We will get there eventually.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Maybe not all of us, but you can. We will achieve human peace when we're all dead? No, no, just in a meditative state. When we're able to control our thoughts and not have these wild thoughts just pop into our head constantly. When you can clear your mind and have access to your emotions. I think that would be when we have the moral discipline to not engage in immoral activity yeah and humility um um what are they what do they when you go and you confess confession helps that a lot clear your mind all right rye lion says my son was born this week he is the
Starting point is 01:52:57 joy of my life already this super chat is for him yeah that helps you keep this country free and the culture american you are doing the right thing for your child by supporting our work. I mean that. I'm half kidding. I think we do good work here and I think we're going to continue to do good work and I'm going to try my best and everybody on the TimCast team is going to try to present a reasonable, pragmatic
Starting point is 01:53:18 and principled approach to providing people with information so they can make up their minds as to what they think should be happening. But right now the media apparatus today is we should just frame things in a way that people do things that we want that's called lying to people so congratulations yeah so if somebody does something that is good uh if you if you lie to someone and they do something as good do they get the credit of morality if you just see if they're not doing it by their own will that's kind of like the end of um what's that movie with uh dr manhattan yeah they lied ozymandias lied to the
Starting point is 01:53:51 human race to prevent world war did he do the right thing were they what was your question exactly deontology versus utilitarianism yeah yeah simply put right like if you're lying to prevent a tragedy are you good the needs of the many you good? The needs of the many, do you believe the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? No, not necessarily. That was Spock. That's utilitarianism. Yeah, because the many can overrun. Typically the villains hold those views. That the needs of the many overrun.
Starting point is 01:54:16 That way the needs of the few, like the bad guy in Kingsman. Yeah, too many is as bad as too few, so you gotta be careful. Well, another way you could reform utilitarianism is that we are capable of measuring the the net goodness and we determine whether the thing is moral or immoral if it produces a net goodness so if i kill 10 000 people to save 100 000 people well 100 000 people survive so that's a net good that's the ultimate that's the ultimate that's the ultimate dilemma of utilitarianism is okay well, well, no, we don't really think – we actually don't think that way.
Starting point is 01:54:47 The trolley. Ian, there is a train coming. Uh-oh. And there are five people tied to the train track. Get them. Save them all. And as the train's coming, you walk over and there's a lever. If you pull the lever, it will divert the train onto a new track with only one person.
Starting point is 01:55:02 You will save the five but kill the one. Do you pull the lever? Probably. So you would – that person would survive if you don't intervene he's safe but i'm not gonna let five people die for no reason if what a terrifying situation that's being the american president is what it seems like who's gonna live that's your decision this person on the on the off track is safe you would have to condemn them to death to decide those people those five people deserve to live. That's brutal, man. Most people say they wouldn't pull the lever. They would let the five people die.
Starting point is 01:55:30 They just wouldn't get involved? Well, doing nothing is also a choice. It's not about not getting involved. It's about taking action that would kill a person. Right now, it's like something happened that set this course of action that will kill five people and I have to tell that person's family I killed him to save those people. Because I think if it is a very base level if we're if it's a tribe if
Starting point is 01:55:47 i'm forming a tribe having five more people in the tribe is probably going to be a lot better than having one more person if it's just me like the six of us can get a lot done build houses irrigation me and that one person good luck so you're still making an argument out of utility like it's yeah it does come into a problem you know another another format of kind of the issue too would be if i you if i threaten you with violence and have the capacity to do it if i figuratively point a gun at you and then give you one and tell them to point it at ian and tell tell you to do do ian in are you considered more are you morally reliable or held liable for your decision? Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:56:25 You chose to value your own life over your morality and the life of Ian. My favorite meme is – there's two memes in The Trolley Problem that are my favorite. One is it's one track loaded with people and the trolley is just mowing them all down. And it says the trolley can stop at any time, but it would disrupt corporate profits to the shareholders. That was good. But then the other one is the train is on like – it's a fully drawn picture. The train is going through a tunnel and there's like mountains. And there's one guy who's dead and one guy standing there.
Starting point is 01:56:55 And it says, you've finally defeated the man who's been tying all these people to the train tracks. It's all over. That's good. That one was good. That one gets my respect. I like those. It's all over. That's awesome. That one gets my respect. I like those. It's all over. All right.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Crandall Logan says, just join the website and can't wait for the new one to drop. Will it be easier to search videos by guest? Because I was looking for a specific video on YouTube and it was probably censored and was having trouble searching for it on your website. It will be way easier. So right now we have like a placeholder website that we implemented and now we have like big dev working, like a great team working on this new website so that you can easily search by topic, by name, all that stuff. So it should definitely be a lot easier. But I will say our soft launch, our target is for Monday. Could change. We'll see. Even when we do launch,
Starting point is 01:57:42 that's when the bugs happen. And then we get 1,000 emails from people like, hey, this bug happened. And then we're like, oh, what are we doing? We're desperately trying to fix it and help everybody because you know how website launches go. Right, but we're going to title by guest name, right? We do. We do. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 01:57:56 That should help. Is there a search mechanism on the new site? Yes. You should be able to just type in the guest name and it should pop up. That's awesome. Yeah. And there's also recommended feeds for the videos too. So like old ones will surface again and we're going to be improving SEO.
Starting point is 01:58:10 So like you'll be able to find these videos and there's a better mechanism for which we can publish some of them for free or like demo. So like if there's a really important conversation we're having that we think shouldn't be behind a paywall, we can make it as like a free trial for people to like it's so important to see a preview like a like a two or three minute preview from a video we're definitely going to decide if they want to sign we're working on a mobile app where people can listen with the screen off with your phones asleep yes and we're working on previews for the episodes and things like that that's cool that's a selling point the previews selling mechanism brandon acock says has ian read A History of Money and Banking in the United States by Murray Rothbard? No. If not, it might dramatically increase his mentioning of the Federal Reserve after reading it.
Starting point is 01:58:53 Oh, no. Yeah, Dave Smith. He's a famous anarchist, huh? Murray Rothbard? Possibly. Dave Smith spoke very highly of him. Carol was also talking about him. You've got to about him. Apparently.
Starting point is 01:59:07 Murray Rothbard. Oh, man. It's so difficult to get through every single Super Chat, but we tried. Kenny Blankenship said, Just watched Lex Friedman's latest podcast with Michael Malice. Michael broke down while talking about the Nazi invasion of Russia.
Starting point is 01:59:22 It was a powerful and surreal moment. I was floored. Wow. Did you guys see that? I saw that. That was weird. They were talking about the Nazi invasion of Russia. It was a powerful and surreal moment. I was floored. Wow. Did you guys see that? I saw that. That was weird. They were talking about this song about when the Germans invaded Operation Barbarossa, and all of a sudden, all these people were living their lives. And then at 4 o'clock, the bombs started dropping. And it's like how fast things can change.
Starting point is 01:59:41 And Mike's, Michael's, Mike, I call you Mike, buddy. His grandma was there. Wow. And his great-grandmother, this wasn's, Mike, I call you Mike, buddy. His grandma was there. Wow. And his great grandmother, this wasn't that day, I don't think, but had to make a choice to dive. Her son and her daughter were both there and she dove on her son to protect him. Wow. And his grandmother, her daughter, remembered that her whole life, that his great grandmother
Starting point is 02:00:01 chose her brother. I'm actually. Wow. Wow. That sounds. Wow. Brutal. Amazing dudes. her whole life that his great-grandmother chose her brother i'm actually wow wow that sounds wow brutal amazing dudes that's another part of his talks about anarchy i get it coming from a soviet the soviet system of how a government can go horribly wrong that now i see how he can see the value in anarchy so much so much more yeah all right jack's mountain tea dude says my first super chat didn't get read so none of my super chats make sense jack's mountain tea is a disabled veteran owned tea
Starting point is 02:00:32 company and we'd love to sponsor you but there's no email on your about uh about page um pitches no there the it could be on uh it should be If you go to youtube.com slash timcast, my other channel, it's definitely there. So check that one out for sure. I will say about Michael Malice, man, that dude is so positive. He's so upbeat. You know? You can't get him down. He's laughing the whole time.
Starting point is 02:00:57 He's having fun with it. He's seen hard things. Yeah, man. That's why. Hard times make strong men, huh? There you go. He's like a white wizard. That's right.
Starting point is 02:01:05 White pillar. Back to Final Fantasy. Yeah. That's why. Hard times make strong men, huh? There you go. He's like a white wizard. That's right. White pillar. Back to Final Fantasy. Yeah. Already back there. Black Rock Beacon says, Do you believe man and God can disagree, and that man can influence God's will? If not, what about Abraham arguing with God
Starting point is 02:01:18 to spare Sodom and Gomorrah, and God conceding to him? This is a common theme in the Old Testament. I think so. I think that's why prayer functions, personally. Or perhaps it was not that God was conceding to him, but that God was absolutely willing or intending to spare Sodom and Gomorrah for those reasons, but needed man to come to the understanding as to why.
Starting point is 02:01:42 So my parents actually said that they were testing his faith by asking him to do that. They brought up the example of him being asked to sacrifice his son as well. Like, that's an insane thing to ask a parent, especially someone who's waited so long for a son. I was practicing this thing where instead of saying words, I would think them to someone, like,
Starting point is 02:02:00 hello. And it would have a similar effect. They could read the body language so it would have a form of communication. And then I started to think that I was tapping into like there's a collective consciousness, and you can hijack it and command it almost. Yeah, I don't really buy into the collective consciousness as like a hive mind. I really don't buy into that. I think when we talk about collective consciousness, it just trends across generations.
Starting point is 02:02:25 It's consistency. That's what I think of it as. It's not prescriptive. It's descriptive. And then yeah, God allows man to wrestle with God so that they know that he is God. Alright, Bear Post says, many founding fathers wrote and believed that the Constitution will not work for
Starting point is 02:02:41 a people that don't have religious morals or good principles. This is mandatory and that's what we've lost generationally. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Morals. People just want stuff.
Starting point is 02:02:55 I mean, it's not even that they just want stuff, like you were talking about earlier. Some people think that it is morally good for a young child to strip in front of other people. So that's like they think it is morally good for a young child to strip in front of other people. Right. Right? So that's like they think it is good. They will call good evil and they will call evil good. Is it that they think the stripping is good or that his right to choose to do it is what's good?
Starting point is 02:03:16 They think that he's advocating for marginalized people. And so that what he's doing is proving something about the rights of individuals or whatever. And I'm just like kids taking off their clothes for money is wrong all right uh fico crusk says on the topic of dumb laws in the city of chico california detonating a nuclear device within city limits results in a 500 fine oh wow wow well there there you go that'll stop people also could you imagine it's like after the apocalypse somebody like travels several months by like sail. They make it to Russia. They find the totally destroyed Kremlin.
Starting point is 02:03:52 And there's like a Vladimir Putin with his uniform all just destroyed, his suits ripped and tattered. And he's sitting there and he's like all weak and injured. And the guy walks up to him and goes, I've traveled for three months to give you this. And then he slams a ticket on the table and says, $500 fine. And then Putin pays him. He also says, also, did you ever receive the signed copy of Doctor Strange I sent you? I didn't. It could be in the mail.
Starting point is 02:04:15 We got to go get that mail picked up. Oh, yeah. I'm going on Monday. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, that's me. And then, you know, I think we'll start opening the mail in the vlog. I was thinking like Sundays we do mail day. Yeah, that'll be fun.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Because we could send some cool stuff. We could send artwork all the time. Yeah, I want we'll start opening the mail on the vlog. I was thinking like Sundays we do mail day. Yeah, that'll be fun. Because we could send some cool stuff. We could send artwork all the time. Yeah, I want to showcase some of it. Yeah, so if you go to TimCast.com in the About section, there's a P.O. box. And we're going to start opening up the mail and showcasing it. And that means some weird stuff will probably end up. And that's what's fun about it. I get a lot of manifestos.
Starting point is 02:04:40 Yeah. Just like people write personal, like this is what I believe. Dude, I've had people write books and send me just to me me like it's like here's a letter for you tim please read it it's 150 pages whoa how i can't read this yeah can you say i respect the work man but can you send me the audiobook version yeah really that's a good idea but i i like big stacks of people like i wrote this up in response to what you're saying and i'm like dude that is a lot of work to do you should maybe publish that on your own website or something. Yeah, that'd be good. I can't read that. I've got time. As an aside for the address, there is an S
Starting point is 02:05:09 on the end of the zip code. You do not need this S. Leave it off. Well, we'll get it fixed in the new website by Monday. Exactly. It confuses the post office. I talked to them about it. David Meese says, hey Tim, if you know the channel MXR, their entire channel has been demonized? Demonetized? entire channel has been demonized?
Starting point is 02:05:25 Demonetized. I was like, demonized? No, it's demonetized without demon. Right. That's right. Mixer. Is that MXR? Is that Mixer?
Starting point is 02:05:32 MXR? I don't know. I've never heard of it. Yeah. That sucks, though. Jay Stewart says, Tim, a tomato-based fruit salad is salsa. Oh, yeah. Interestingly, they do put mango in salsa.
Starting point is 02:05:43 Oh, it's so good, too. I know. Yeah. Mango habanero salsa, dude. Man. It looks so good. do put mango in salsa. Oh, it's so good, too. I know. Yeah. Mango habanero salsa, dude. It looks so good. A little corn in there. It can be good. It's not always good.
Starting point is 02:05:51 True. Needs to be done right. Slug pudding says ketchup is tomato icing. Ah! No! You might be right. Thanks. I hate it.
Starting point is 02:05:57 No, no, no, no. I can make tomato icing. I can legit make a tomato icing. Please don't. I have tomato jam. We bought tomato jam from a farmer's market, and you put it on grilled cheese. It's fantastic. We put tomato jam.
Starting point is 02:06:09 It's different. It's bacon jam, right? No vinegar in it. Yeah, bacon jam. Yeah, yeah. So ketchup is a savory sauce. It's a sauce, yeah. It's a sauce.
Starting point is 02:06:18 Salty, a little vinegar. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to take a... You know what would be interesting? To take a ketchup recipe, but do it with strawberries. Oh, yeah. That'd be cool. Like vinegary and savory. Concentrated strawberries? Yeah. I would like to take a... You know what would be interesting? To take a ketchup recipe, but do it with strawberries. Oh, yeah. That'd be cool.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Like vinegary and savory. Concentrated strawberries? Yeah. You get the... Or... I'm excited for the pawpaw. We're going to make pawpaw bread. Pawpaw ketchup.
Starting point is 02:06:35 No, we're not going to make pawpaw ketchup. Why not? But I read that you can substitute pawpaw for banana on any recipe. Ooh. Nice. So we'll do... Like banana bread, yeah. Yeah, we'll do like a pawpaw bread.
Starting point is 02:06:43 And we're going to plant the seeds. Did you see the blue bananas? No. They taste like ice cream. Get them overseas like in Malaysia or something. I need that. I think I saw a picture, but that's about it. That's cool. Could have been fake news. I don't really like bananas that much.
Starting point is 02:06:59 I taste like penicillin. All right. I'll read this. Alejandro Campos says, for the app, I've had the membership but rarely watch the extra content because I have to have the window open. I am a trucker, so I don't like having the internet window open while I drive. It's definitely like one of our top priorities, but that means we have to get the app out first. And there's two things we're going to do. We want to start uploading not just the video version, but an audio version right beneath it. So you can press play and do audio only.
Starting point is 02:07:28 I think Rumble might have something like that. I'm not sure. But we need the new site to launch before we can start implementing these things. A lot of people just listen. They don't actually watch the video of the bonus content. So we want to do an audio only version. It's way cheaper on bandwidth. So it's better for us in the long run.
Starting point is 02:07:40 And then the only way to make it so that you can listen to the show with the phone off is if we do a mobile app. And that's going to be another like two months of development. I've heard that if you use Brave, you can minimize it, put your phone off and then you can still listen to it. I've never tested it,
Starting point is 02:07:58 but yeah, I've heard this in comments repeatedly. I think that's what it is. Well, the Brave browser is fantastic. We're big fans of the Brave browser. We use the Brave browser. It disables a lot of tracking, much like the Freedom Phone is saying they're going to be doing. Haven't tried the Freedom Phone. I want to make sure I state that.
Starting point is 02:08:14 But Brave is legit. Brave is super cool. I love Brave. Big fan. Big fan of Brave. I've used it for everything. Yeah, DuckDuckGo. It's my number one.
Starting point is 02:08:21 Brave. Yes, sir. We should get those dudes on the show someday. The Brave dudes. Brave dudes. Oh, yeah, we probably could. Yeah's my number one. Brave. Yes, sir. We should get those dudes on the show someday. The brave dudes. Brave dudes. Oh, yeah. We probably could. Yeah, I bet.
Starting point is 02:08:29 All right. Card995 says, you guys should play Trial by Trolley on Steam. That sounds great. Oh, we got to watch that movie, Hero, with Jet Li. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to watch that. Okay.
Starting point is 02:08:42 All right. Let's see. We'll do a couple more. Steven13 says, you know the Soviets abused German civilians. German women were abused by the Red Army in ways I can't say on YouTube. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Jerome Morrow says, for the next show, instead of talking, just use the collective consciousness
Starting point is 02:08:58 and just think your comments to each other. I actually have YouTube videos of me doing that if you want to go back into my old catalog on the Crossmac channel. I am so excited for this new show we're doing on the mysteries and the ghost stories and stuff. So the format is going to be
Starting point is 02:09:12 there's going to be about a 15-minute show with sound effects and everything. Like legit, we're going to have Shane who writes these stories and they're brilliant
Starting point is 02:09:20 and amazing stories. Dude, I'm reading through them. I can't put them down. We're going to make books based off the stories. We're going to do collections of off the stories we're going to do collections of these these investigations we're going to have like when he's talking telling a story about you know like driving you'll hear like the engine when when he tells a story about like walking in the store you'll hear like the bell ring of a door opening it's going to be a real show and then followed by for members
Starting point is 02:09:39 a hangout conversation talking about it so the the free show for everybody, which will be on YouTube and iTunes and Spotify, will be like a 15 to 20 minute series. And then people who are members get to hang out with the crew as they investigate, explore, and conversation deeper. Like, what does that mean? How did you find this? And make it a real hangout.
Starting point is 02:09:57 I'm so excited. It's going to be amazing. I'm actually wondering if that could actually become more prominent than doing the political show because it's more entertainment value. It works in tandem, too. They all kind of work like a net of items. It's going to be fun, man.
Starting point is 02:10:12 And then once we do sports, we're going to do tech, video games, movies. The next show we're planning is going to be cultural commentary. So that's more so like Black Widow came out. Let's talk about Black Widow. Did you see the movie? Here's what I like and didn't like about it. Spoiler alert. And just generally watching movies, playing video games.
Starting point is 02:10:28 And then we're doing the D&D show. The D&D show will probably come before that. So that's going to be once a week where we have... So I'm looking for a DM or people that want to get involved. But I need a video, a link to some video you've done of D&D. Just something that I can see so I can see you in action because seeing your text like a text thing isn't enough to get a feel for your work. So I know it's weird because most people don't record themselves doing it.
Starting point is 02:10:54 I think we should – should people reach out to you if they're DMs? You can, yeah. It's just text isn't good enough. I need to get a feel for your work and your style. So to see it on a video helps a lot. I just mean like because normally we're like go to jobs at Timcast, but I'm not going to be a feel for your work and your style. So to see it on a video helps a lot. I just mean like because normally we're like go to jobs at Timcast, but I'm not going to be a good judge of a DM. You probably would be.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Yeah, yeah. Definitely hit me up on Twitter or Mines or something with your content. This show is going to be fun because the idea is to have the stories based around some kind of sociopolitical – like in some way related to the modern culture war and stuff like that. And then have people explore the situations, much like the trolley problem, see how they would react to them and how they respond. They're going to be censoring the scrying glasses. You won't be able to see certain types of
Starting point is 02:11:36 information. Yep, exactly. So you'll have a king or emperor who will say, well, you don't need swords because we have nukes and F-15s. Yep. No, they'll be like, your swords are pathetic. You can't stop us. You would need fire staffs and lightning rods. And
Starting point is 02:11:51 dragons. Which are illegal. Dragons. Yep. Which they control. Contraband. And then you actually have a scenario where you have, if we have like five or six players going up against one dragon and then, you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens. But it's, you know, look, for people who aren't familiar with D&D, it's mostly a bunch of people hanging out and laughing and joking, and we'll be exploring a lot of philosophical and moral ideas with the
Starting point is 02:12:15 show. Someone emailed me saying, we can't do individual scenarios. It needs to be like a series, like 13 episodes that explore one story, kind of a show and that's actually a really good idea because then basically if someone writes 13 episodes basically it's almost like watching a tv show like oh man what's gonna happen next they call it a campaign in dnd language and that's usually the way you work is like some people go like for years with one campaign you know from level 1 to level 30 uh over every four weeks they'll get together and play but or you can I think you could maybe do different ones every week you could hop into like sliders into different bodies but
Starting point is 02:12:51 I like the idea of doing like a 13 episode campaign so it's like a show and you're like oh man what's what's gonna happen to Ian oh dude like Ian just got turned into a chicken what's gonna happen next? And then it's like, you know.
Starting point is 02:13:06 Bok bok. I got better. Yeah. He turned me into a newt. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for hanging out on this Friday night. Smash that like button. Subscribe to this channel. Become a member at TimCast.com.
Starting point is 02:13:17 And there's so much more in the works. Tons of great articles. We've got, I think, we have like four people hanging out here tomorrow when we're going to be filming the vlog. And we have a couple of them want to work here and they're people you may have heard of so it's gonna be really exciting because we're gonna be adding tons and tons of people to the to the team producing more and more content and then that way when i'm like old and feeble there will be something that persists outside of just the shows that i've been doing there'll be other shows so that's gonna be epic you can follow the show at TimCastIRL on Facebook and Instagram, at TimCast underscore IRL on TikTok.
Starting point is 02:13:48 And we'll be back tomorrow morning with the vlog, which is – I don't know if I can actually say the – there's stuff in that video that's like naughty because we made a joke. We combined rollerblades with – they're called roller skis. And so I combined the word ski and street into one word, and I think YouTube might not be happy with what that word is, but it's in the show anyway, so youtube.com slash castcastle. We have a bunch of episodes up. That vlog is going to go
Starting point is 02:14:16 daily, where you see us hanging out today. Ian had a huge crew outside picking wine berries to make wine wine. Forest went deep. Did we talk about that? We didn't talk about that. Oh, we did. Forest went beyond the edge yep i did i did i did have a ranger school flashback and uh you can follow me personally at timcast uh you want to shout out anything first yeah so uh for our digital publications it's recoilweb.com and offgridweb.com and then if you go to gun digest the gun digest, that is where you can preorder our DIY firearms book.
Starting point is 02:14:46 We are running out, so get to there quick. My personal Instagram is at Foxroe, underscore official, F-O-X-R-O-E. It's the only nickname that really stuck. But, yeah, and buy recall. If you want to see some of the stuff we're doing, subscription is the best way to do it. But, yeah, I'm happily here to answer questions about firearms and do what I do. Cool. Always awesome to see you, man.
Starting point is 02:15:12 Yeah. Hey, follow me at Ian Crossland. You guys rock. Thank you for coming. IanCrossland.net if you want to check out my website and get a little portal into all my socials. But otherwise, at Ian Crossland. Hit me up anywhere.
Starting point is 02:15:22 Thanks. And you guys, I do have to issue a clarification on what I said earlier about opals and mayonnaise and the connection therewith. Opals are a colloid, not a suspension. Mayonnaise is a suspension
Starting point is 02:15:32 because it's a liquid in a liquid. So you guys should look it up and educate yourselves on that. Opals are fascinating. Other gems are also very beautiful. I have a really cool chemistry background.
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Starting point is 02:15:50 and after that we'll be back Monday for this show at 8pm have a good weekend

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