Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #333 - Australia DEPORTS Katie Hopkins As COVID Lockdowns Make Comeback w/Travis Corcoran

Episode Date: July 20, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join homesteader and award-winning author Travis Corcoran to break down the new lockdowns in Australia, and the deportation of a right-wing firebrand for her stated intent to disobey their new rules, advice for prepping and homesteading, what the future of the US might look like, the new requirements for children and mask-wearing, and whether people living in cities should leave now, or just get ready. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Things are getting a bit spicy up in France. Over 100,000 people were protesting in the streets. Many of them were rioting. A vaccination center was set on fire and several others were vandalized because Emmanuel Macron has introduced a law that if you cannot prove you are vaccinated, you will get up to six months in prison. If you run an establishment open to the public and you do not have, if you are not checking people,

if they're vaccinated, you will get up to a year in prison. Well, naturally people are not happy with this. And I talked about this earlier on my other channel, but this is, well, COVID cases are on the rise basically everywhere. People are scared of the Delta variant. And now we're seeing draconian measures like in France. Over in Australia, we're getting mixed signals, I suppose. Katie Hopkins has been deported because apparently she broke quarantine or something like that. And a bunch of other celebrities have come in and been given special leeway and special access. But I'm not super concerned necessarily about the double standard at this point because we know that exists. I suppose I'm more concerned about with whether or not the rise in COVID cases, the Delta variant is going to result in more lockdowns, which Joe Biden says, well, it's not off the table.

So we'll talk about this. And we're going to talk a lot about, I guess, why we don't like cities. And we're being we're being joined by a homesteading author, Travis Corcoran. Do you want to introduce yourself real quick? Sure. Thanks, Tim. So I am a homesteader and I am an author. My day job is, you know,

50 hours a week as a software engineer. And, you know, homesteading is something that on the one hand I do on the weekends. That's when I'm out fixing the tractor and planting the pumpkins and butchering the pigs and all that sort of stuff. But it also impacts one's entire life sort of Monday through Friday in that, you know, my wife and I talk a lot about how we really love the fact that, you know, 50 percent of our food comes right off the farm. And every morning the bacon is from our pigs. Can you pull your mic up a little bit? Sure. Sorry.

And, you know, the eggs are from there. And, you know, when we make whatever, even tacos, that's, you know, coming from beef that I've processed. And then there's also a lot of resiliency to living on a homestead, which ties into the whole COVID thing. And, you know, this was, I'm here to some degree to talk about some books that I've written, Escape the City, volumes one and two. And the timing was perfect on this because when COVID hit, you know, a whole lot of people in the cities, their lifestyles just, you know, turned terrible. And there's obviously the whole real estate realignment that's going on right now where real estate prices are absolutely crashing in every

city core. And you're seeing, you know, huge price run ups in other places as, you know, half the country redistributes where it wants to live. They're fleeing the city. Right. Yeah. And so it's good to hear that they're taking Jack Posobiec's advice and my advice. Right. And your advice. Escape the city. Hopefully. The Kickstarter did well and the book's now up on Amazon. So the advice is there for anyone who wants it. We're going to talk a lot about what's going on with this lockdown stuff. I mean, this stuff in France is absolutely draconian, but then an optimistic solution because I've been saying this a long time. Like I actually was saying this today.

It's so amazing. I'm looking out my window when I'm recording these videos. Forest. There's like deer running around. They're doing deer stuff. And then I see him like going for the pawpaw and I'm like getting nervous. Like, oh, they're going to take it. But apparently it's going to have to worry because they're not ripe ripe yet so the deer won't go near him I just gotta make

sure we get them before the deer take them but it's a lot of fun so we'll talk about this stuff uh Ian's chilling yeah I was out in the woods over the weekend I think it was over the weekend picking some wine berries and man I was getting scratched up by the brambles getting my hair caught in the twigs and it felt great I'm alive I felt connected with nature I felt like it was enhancing my immune system by giving me just a little bit of those cuts you know a little bit of that dirt. As long as you had washed it off. Then I went and took a shower.

There you go. I feel like a million bucks. Ian Crossland in the house. What up, everybody? And I am also here. I did not go out and find wine berries, but I'm really excited to try this wine wine once it's done. I'm really curious what it tastes like. Wine wine.

So wine berries are a local – well, actually, they're not local. They're an invasive Asian variant of raspberries, and they're everywhere in Appalachia. So you drive down the road, and you'll see red berries everywhere. They're amazing. You just pop them right off, and so we're going to make a little bit of wine wine. I'm super excited. You have better invasive species here in the Maryland, D.C. area than we have up in New Hampshire. We've got Japanese knotweed and bittersweet, and I am out there every weekend with a pick and shovel digging that stuff up.

At first, we have stink bugs too. And they're everywhere. They're insane. And at first, I was upset about it. Then we got chickens. Now it's like, ooh, a stink bug. Food for the chickens. And they love the little things, man.

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who are among the elite group who have been allowed to travel back to the country via private plane. They were also permitted to quarantine at their private homes. They go on to mention that British commentator Katie Hopkins, who was also in Australia to film Big Brother, was deported for comments she made online about breaking the country's quarantine regulations. So we've seen a lot of this lockdown stuff going on. And now basically the story is Australia is prolonging its COVID-19 lockdown in Victoria amid the Delta outbreak. So this is the excuse by which they're saying everyone's

got to quarantine again if you're flying into the country. And it kind of, I got to say, it is awfully convenient if you are a proponent of the Great Reset. Are you familiar with the Great Reset? Oh, absolutely. It's awfully fortuitous, I suppose, for those who are fans of the Great Reset and those who have advocated for it, that we can't travel to places anymore, that people are deported if they break quarantine. I get it.

The country has laws. Australia is allowed to deport who they want, I suppose. But now they're prolonging this. Now there's fears of the Delta variant outbreak. And I'm just – I'm curious. You mentioned in the intro we're talking about people fleeing these cities. What's your – I guess your prediction on where we go from here? I've got some thoughts about the current month and the current year,

but we were talking before the show rolled about, you know, I think the world is changing in a really fundamental and big way and the kind of thing that you don't see every year. I mean, sure, things change, you know, one year and the next. But, you know, I think that every 500 years or so, things really, really change. And we saw that, you know, around 500 years ago with the invention of the printing press, which led to the rise of Protestantism and religious wars, and then eventually the Westphalian nation states coming up and replacing feudalism.

And, you know, I think the Internet and the new modes of communication technology right now are, you know, and this isn't a story from like last year or two years. It's, you know, 30 years, 50 years. But the world is really changing fundamentally, and I think we're going to see changes at about the same scale. So I think that people are escaping the cities right now, and that's going to accelerate over the coming years. But that's just one component of a much bigger change in currency and lifestyles and economies and how states and people are organized on the planet. Do you think it's intentional? Like there are people who are actively trying to kill off cities?

Obviously, well, you know, there's intention out there and there's emergent stuff. I don't think that the elites who are pushing the Great Reset and the whole, you know, live in the pod, eat the bugs, want people to escape the cities. You know, they're saying, hey, you know, our system is already 80% along and we just need to tune it a little more. We need, you know, more green energy, even though windmills are sort of a terrible technology, and nuclear is much better. And we need more sustainable foods. And by sustainable, they're always talking about bugs,

and never about raising pigs and chickens and eating wine berries. No, they're saying not to eat pigs and chickens. They're saying to eat the bugs. Right, right. Did you see that story out of Leesburg, Virginia where the the guy was serving cicadas i did not he was like going into his like his side of his house and picking them off yeah and then i guess the health department was like dude you can't pick bugs off the side of your house and serve it to people uh-huh so he had he ordered cicadas right now i'm like but i guess they were from china huh so clearly defeats the purpose of

eating sustainable bugs from the floor ship Ship them in by air or something. Yeah, right? Just eat the centipedes. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, sorry. I don't know. Oh, so I think your question was, was this intentional to get people to flee the cities?

And I think what's intentional is the Great Reset, the whole endless propaganda about how eating bugs and your lifestyle is going to be different and you're not going to own anything. You're going to rent everything. And, you know, I think that a lot of that is intentional. But I think that we are to some degree seeing the last gasp of the current system, sort of like, you know, the Soviets around 1985. The current elites have run out of any energy. I mean, the Soviets motivated their people, you know, as a terrible system. But there was actual grassroots enthusiasm. When you bring rural electrification to people, you know, they're going to like that even if you're doing other terrible things. When you educate the sons of dirt farmers, they're going to like that. And so the Soviets had some innate momentum for decades. And then eventually they just played out

everything they could do. And then, you know, they're talking about the 18th five-year plan in, you know know 1986 or something and everyone knew it was a joke and the soviets in the system said you know they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work and uh i i think that you know the last bastion of centrally planned uh communism is you know here in the west uh so what what what is that i mean i'm joking a little bit making a reference to sort of uh menus Moldbug, Curtis Yarvin stuff. But no, but you mean to say like the current system we're under, everybody knows it's a joke. Exactly.

And that's where I was going. You're right. Right. You know, we've got and don't worry, I know what one can say and not say, but we've got a Democratic Party. The Republican Party ceased to be able to put forward any candidates of its own sort of ideology. And the Democratic Party has sort of entirely run out of steam where they're putting forward these candidates who it's inevitable because it's their time. And you get these, you know, sort of absolute laughingstocks. Hillary Clinton. Right, right. So and, you know, Joe Biden, God help him, does not seem to have all of his marbles in one place. He's got like two marbles left. Right, right. You know, and it's a tragedy. But this is the last gasp of the system, you know, and so they pretend to have a president and, you know, we pretend to respect the system.

And I think that things are changing. I like that joke. You know, they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work, they pretend to have a president. I think the sad thing is, yeah, it's paper thin. Yeah. You know, there is a presidential administration joe biden is fumbling bumbling joe trinidad shabbat of pressure bad cath care and you know one thing that i've brought up on the show uh frequently is that when he speaks it's very obvious he's not talking to half the country right he'll when he makes references

to covid when he makes references to law they've basically cut off in terms of their there was a point where they were like you know we want to try and make sure we're getting to the other side to win those votes now they're like we don't even care yeah we don't don't care about those we saw in the 1900s 20th century that the the fall of like centrally planned economies very clearly and now i think we're up against the centrally planned law lawyering system. And I wonder how we can, I like how you said poly, as opposed to decentralized, polycentric law, and how we would do that while maintaining a union. Right.

How do you foresee that? I'm not sure we maintain a union. I mean, you know, every system lives for as long as it lives. Back in college, I double majored. I was computer science, but also Roman history. And one of my professors, I think Barry Strauss, had a wonderful last lecture in the semester one year. And, you know, he was talking about the parallels between

the Roman system and the American system. And, you know, he said a few things that, you know, every country ends eventually, but also its forms linger on after the reality of it has died. And, you know, a lot of people, you know, sort of red gray tribe will say, you know, you know, America's gone so far off the rails, but we'll get it back. And I'm like, you know, dude, I think America ended somewhere between 10 and 50 years ago. And right now, you know, we still have the form of it. Some people argue it ended with the Federal Reserve. I think that's, you know, I don't particularly have the Federal Reserve bug that, you know, that explains everything.

But I can get along with those guys. You know, I think that there's good arguments that, oh, gosh, not Coolidge. Anyway, I'm blanking on my early 20s. Woodrow Wilson? Yes. Thank you very much, sir. And there's another argument to go further back that Abraham Lincoln and, you know, even if freeing the slaves was a wonderful ideal.

It's interesting how every other country on the planet managed to free its slaves without having a war and killing 3% of its population. Yeah, and many before us. Yeah. Like the British Empire. Exactly. Perfect example. Great Britain proper, I think, was in the 1700s. Yep.

Was it like 73 or something or 75? I would have thought it was later than that, but I'll trust your number. I could be wrong. I know that in the greater but I'll trust your number. I could be wrong. I know that in the greater Commonwealth, it was 1833. Right, right. That's the number I had in my head. It's funny because they freed their slaves, but they still have like colonized India. Right, right, right.

You know, and the United States is an example of that. But, you know, we talk about, you know, we're this exemplar for all mankind, this wonderful free society where anybody can do anything, you know, as long as it's in the properly approved narrow set of things that are good and free, not terrible bad things like going to church and having old-fashioned ideas or owning firearms or anything. And yet we have this crazy system where members of both parties sort of support this imperial warmongering system where we're fighting in, you know, 30 or 40 different countries. So we've got this representative government and all these freedoms at home to some degree, while simultaneously we have, you know, absolute, you know, un, what is the word I'm looking for?

Unfettered? Yes, unfettered. That'll do. You know, we have this effective war on anyone we want to, and there's no checks and balances and there's no civil rights it's crazy to me how at a certain point the united states the the politicians stopped actually implementing policy in this country and it was actually an argument over what we should be doing overseas right and we had a long period of that from my mind look i can't argue for about what happened before i was born but i thought most of my life was just a whole lot of arguing about what we're going to do to other people elsewhere. And I long complained.

I'm like, everybody's coming out talking about these pipes in Flint, which now I believe are fixed. But I'm like, how much money did we spend in Afghanistan building roads and building schools? So it's weird to me that the answer to a lot of what the left was complaining about was simply that we focus on America first, which is controversial, I guess, for some strange reason. But I want to go back to this point about Katie Hopkins and Australia, because you mentioned

there might not be a union. And so I'm wondering if these countries are effectively shutting their borders off, they're making it much, much more difficult for anyone to come in. What is it going to look like if the United States isn't even going to be a union, but then it's already hard enough for people to travel, it feels like everybody is becoming more isolationist. You know, so there's an interesting thing where things are getting physically more isolated,

you know, in the physical realm of where can you go at the same time that distance is becoming less important. And this is the whole sort of Lexus in the olive tree thesis that, you know, the world is getting flat and, you know, you can source parts from wherever and you can, you know, I work for a startup that doesn't have a physical location. We're decentralized and we've got people, you know, all the way from Italy over to Japan. So we've just got this sort of weird rolling 20 hour clock. But, you know, this gets to what I was saying earlier

about, you know, every 500 years or so, maybe there's a deep fundamental change in how society is structured. Now, getting to COVID, I think that this is a short-term problem. There's, you know, we sequenced COVID-19 in very short order, and we came up with an immunization for it in, you know, 48 hours. And the only thing that stood in the way was the old, you know, nation states and the FDA and the CDC, you know, doing things like taking four- weekends during the emergency where you can count the number of people dying per day. But they're so entrenched in the sort of 1970s Soviet bureaucratic thing of, oh, we've all got to get out to our dachas. You know, this is, you know, Soviet pioneer day. You can't expect us to work and save lives then. So I think that's proof that the system is absolutely exhausted and it's just

ready for people to stop believing it. When you look at the sheer tribalism, you know, like I mentioned, and many people have mentioned Joe Biden seems to only be talking to one side of the country at this point because they've basically resigned themselves. OK, we can't win them over. It's over. We're done. We're done talking. I mean, the tribalism has reached absolutely absurd levels.

You know, it's like that right now that people are people are circulating these old tweets from 2020 of Kamala Harris and like Daily Kos writing about vaccine skepticism. And they're saying like, who would take Trump's vaccine? And now they're the ones screaming like, why won't Trump supporters take the vaccine? Right, absolutely. Yeah, people are absolutely aligned. I got to say, you know, perhaps I'm just biased, but I think it is fair to say that it is the rule for the establishment left, but the exception for the right in general. So leftists kind of overlap with a lot of the establishment Democrats.

But you look at – you mentioned the Republican Party and their forever war kind of stuff too. I want to make clear that I don't think that's just the Republicans. I mean both parties love the forever war. But I will say, like, I think as another sign of the collapse or the decay or the change, whatever you want to call it, is Donald Trump's storming into the Republican Party and forcing dramatic changes. Right. And he couldn't have done that in 1980 or 1984. You can't. One man with a bunch of bombast can't knock over a healthy system. But the Trump supporters, I don't know if you did you hear what Michael Moore said back in 2016?

I think I did. I remember being shocked that he was sort of intellectually honest about it for the first time. Yeah, it was brilliant. He basically said that Trump was one of the only people advocating for these factories. He goes to these auto manufacturers and said, I will tear a few 30% if you try and move these cars out of America. And then Michael Moore said the workers look at Donald Trump like a human Molotov cocktail, and they are going to send the biggest F you to the establishment the world has ever heard, and they are going to enjoy it. The one thing he got wrong was he was like, it'll feel

good for a week or a month, maybe a year. I know. Yeah, it felt good for a lot of people for a while. So I think that's one of the big changes to the Republican Party. But I think, you know, so just to address that point, on the left, you have many people who are, it's crazy how they can't remember what they said last year. You know, I started flipping back through 1984 recently, and everyone's read 1984. And there's a problem with reading things. You tend to boil them down to an essence or a logo or something. And things in the world, books, novels, people, have a whole lot of complexity. So to actually go back and look at 1984, it's not just sort of a stand-in or a stereotype or a glyph that stands for repressive totalitarianism. There's a lot of detail there.

And the detail about how the party just changes the line and everyone, you know, switches on a dime. And this is what we're seeing. You know, last year, you know, I was one of these Internet autists who was paying attention to China in very, very early January. And I think it was late January when, you know, I started tweeting my 10,000. I'm talking to Tim Pool about I've got 10,000 followers on Twitter. But I said, you know, guys, now is the time to start packing stockpiling stuff. And people said, you know, I'm talking to Tim Pool about, I've got 10,000 followers on Twitter. But I said, you know, guys, now is the time to start packing, stockpiling stuff. And people said, you know what? And I said, you know, I don't know that, you know, if it's surfaces, but start getting latex gloves in case it does turn out to be surfaces. I don't know if it's

airborne, but definitely start getting masks, you know, P90, P95, start laying in food. I'm not saying there will be supply chain disruptions, but when you don't know. And at that time, the left and, oh, gosh, what was he? Ezra. Ezra Klein. Yes, thank you. I think it was either Ezra Klein or if it wasn't Ezra Klein, it was one of the other Ezra Kleins, was absolutely poo-pooing this idea of, you know, masks do nothing. And even if they do anything, you should leave it for the professionals.

There's no reason to have a mask. And the fear that you'll generate, that's the real danger. And then they all pivot on a dime when, you know new line comes down from the you know there used to be journalist if you're familiar with that you know the journalist the journalist oh yeah there's more than people know man right and and so certainly there are dozens more journalists and when you see so let's let's break that down real quick sure he's not saying journalist he's saying journal hyphen list this was I think Ezra Klein made this right it was a

it was a Facebook group where all of these different journalists from different organizations were on one community group together so one person would come in and say X happened and then every single journalist would you know in this group would see it so they were all wrapped up in the

exact same bubble narrative, completely oblivious to the outside world. There's a wonderful video on YouTube that shows some people on a cable channel reading out a prepared statement, and every five seconds it switches to a different cable channel, and the statement continues seamlessly because this was literally a memo that came down from corporate, and they wanted every local affiliate to do it. Journalist was effectively the same thing, but there wasn't a corporation at the top.

There was just this little plate or file or hive of journalists. And they had Tamara's bullet points every day. What people don't realize about that is there wasn't one journal list. There was probably 10,000. Right. I was personally on several of them. Yeah, I think I still am on one. There were a bunch of different ones.

There was one that was about, it was like citizen journalist centric. So it was basically 10 or 20,000 people with several who were very active and many who just followed and they would post things and they would all see it

and then sure enough, these articles pop up everywhere. But I do want to, with that being said, go back to the point you were making about, you know, it's time to prepare,

it's time to buy supplies. Because early on last year, one of the sponsors we often do is for a food bucket. Awesome. Safe and Ready Meals. I'm not promoting them. I'm just mentioning that we have promoted them in the past. And this is like a 25-year food bucket. Now, I don't like doing promos.

Like, legit, I'll get sent, like, hey, Tim, would you want to advertise for this? And I'm like, no, I can't do that company. Like I have to actually think there's utility there. And so this company I thought was actually fantastic because the way I describe it to people is you've got a first aid kit, right? I've got multiple first aid kits. Right, how many? I don't know, four or five, including trauma bandages. I go into that in my books in that I've got a small first aid kit in my workshop.

I've got a beefier first aid kit in my chainsaw supplies. Now here's a question, though. Sure. How often do you use them? You know, there's sort of the 80-20 rule or the power law in that, you know, I probably cut my fingertips or something every, you know, two weeks or so. I think I actually did it. Once every two weeks?

Yeah. You might need a bandage. Right. How often do you eat food? Right. Yeah, you know, three times a day. I think you eat food, yes, three times a day. And so it was crazy to me that, you know, that there's this negative connotation, this negative perspective on having emergency food or whatever. And I'm like, you should have

a thing of water, food, and a first aid kit. And, you know, you look at what happened around the time. Actually, I don't remember when this was. It was flooding in Houston. It was really, really bad. And I'm like like some of these people are like trapped in their houses for a long period of time you're going to be happy you can crack open that freeze-dried sealed bag and now you're gonna need some power to to boil the water and stuff like that you know but i look at it like it was strange to me that the establishment doesn't prepare for anything you know you you mentioned they turn in a dime. The party says, so be it, and they all just agree. And they're all in this mentality that no matter what happens,

they will always be safe. And that, to me, is insane. Absolutely. Look, you know what I think? Here's what I always say about buying beans and rice or these emergency food kits. If you're in your absolute worst-case scenario, okay, admittedly, your worst-case scenario, you have food, right?

But in the absolute best-case scenario, okay, admittedly, your worst case scenario, you have food, right? But in the absolute best case scenario, you literally, you just eat it. Like I used to say, look, worst case scenario, just eat the food, right? And then I realized, no, the worst case scenario would be the actual apocalypse and then you'll eat the food. But if you buy these things and then nothing happens,

the other day I just cracked an open, made some stroganoff, it was delicious, put some chicken in there and some spices. And I've absolutely done the same thing. Not recently, but I've had a pile, one or two boxes of MREs sitting around the house forever since shortly after I got out of college. And every now and then, you'd be sort of working late, and suddenly it's 10 o'clock, and there's no food in the fridge, and there's no takeout.

I've eaten an MRE at 10.30 in the evening more than once. Yeah. It's not something you want to eat all the time, but they're not bad. Yeah. It's good self-limiting in that way. You're never going to be tempted to eat up all of your MRE at 1030 in the evening more than once. Yeah. You know, it's not something you want to eat all the time, but they're not bad. Yeah. It's good self-limiting in that way. You're never going to be tempted to eat up all of your MREs. Well, let's talk about this. You know, right now, you mentioned in the previous segment that we could be coming to

this 500-year end cycle. I mean, you've heard of the fourth turning. Yep. Yep. We've got the Thucydides Trap, and now we've got the MIT study that everyone's talking about. In 2040, the collapse is coming or whatever. There's yet another one.

I'm going to mispronounce the word, but it's like Korolev wave theory. Oh, we should add it to the list. We can talk about that one. You know, I think I ended up picking this up from an interstitial essay in a book of John Barnes' short stories like 30 years ago. And the idea is that there is a bunch of different waves, sort of sinusoids, and some have four-year cycles, another 12. And at some point, if you've ever taken calculus or done a 4A decomposition of something, you get a whole bunch of curves, and they start to peak up at certain points. And the theory is that all of these curves are going to peak sometime way off in the far future, like 2025 or something. And this theory is written down in the 70s or 80s.

And I think we're seeing a lot of it come true. Stuff is getting crazy. So do you think, you mentioned last year you said people should buy stuff. Yeah. What would you say right now? Do you think people should be stocking up or something like that? Let me back up a little bit and say- I always want to avoid panic, right?

Yeah, yeah. Panic never helps anything. I think that anti-fragility is a good thing. Yes. Love that idea. And so, you know, people ask, are you a prepper? I'm like, well, you know, I'm not prepared to survive the zombie apocalypse. I don't want to survive a nuclear war. You don't want to. I'm saying maybe for humor. I'd rather not die if there is a nuclear war. But the point is, all sorts of things happen, and it's always better to be prepared for them. One thing I talk about just, you know, this isn't a survivalist or a prepper book. And I've got some sort of anti-prepping thoughts. And that's Escape from

the City. Right. Escape from the City. And this is a recent homesteading book that I wrote. I've been on the homestead for eight years and there's two volumes, volume one and volume two. Wow. And it's basically one long book, about 1,300 pages long. Wow. And it's sort of massive in the amount of detail inside. Oh, cool. The table of contents alone is 30 pages.

So if you've got any interest in homesteading or prepping, I'd recommend picking it up. It's Escape the City. It's on Amazon. And you can just Google it. They made prepping a dirty word. Yeah.

You know, the problem with anything is that it gets an ideological stink. And so there's always this constant recycling of language, whether it's the name for a minority or, you know, intellectually challenged person or a hobby, you know. And so, you know, prepping, there's always an impetus in the media to find someone and point at them and laugh. And then everyone laughs along with you. And, you know, sort of the journalist goes out that we all agree as a society that, you know, preppers or furries or whatever, you know, we can punch down at them because they're a bunch of weirdos in the same way that we're punching down at people who are buying masks last January. So anyway, my thoughts about prepping are there's a power law in that absolute huge catastrophic things happen very, very rarely, but sort of very small annoyances happen more often.

So if someone says, you know, I want to be prepared, what should I do? Should I get a zombie hunter extreme machete? Should I get a long-range sniper rifle? I'm like, you know, maybe you should get $500 in the checking account because, you know, people get laid off like once every five years. So you're going to be laid off from your job in the next five years, certainly in the next 10 years. So lock down how you're going to survive that without losing your lifestyle. People lose their power once every 10 or 15 years. Plan for that. And that's not expensive. You get a $500 generator, a $300 transfer switch.

But then you keep going out on these things and they're less and less frequent but the chance you know hopefully we'll all live to be 70 or 80 or 90 and a thing that only happens once every 15 years that's going to happen to you several times in your life and we in the west we've been you know rich and protected by oceans and so we've been uh very you know blessed and we've not had a lot of the bad stuff that normal people have at the same rate that they have it but i wrote this book starting several years ago. And one thing I said is, hey, we get plagues about once every hundred years. We had the Spanish flu in 1918, and I went back several other plagues. So you should be prepared because there's a decent chance that there'll be a plague

in your lifetime. Did you hear about this? This story happened several years ago. There was an algal bloom in the Great Lakes. And within 40, which is Toledo on the lake? I can't remember which city it was. Western Ohio. But it's on one of the lakes. Cleveland's on the lake. Cleveland.... Is Toledo on the lake? I can't remember which city it was. It's like Western Ohio. But it's on one of the big lakes.

Cleveland's on the lake. Cleveland. Sandusky's on the lake. There was, within 40 miles, I guess, of all these cities, no drinking water. Wow. Because what happened was, as soon as the news broke, as soon as people found out,

they immediately started raiding local stores for bottled water and moving further and further out to get more and more water. And then within 40 miles, no water. What do you drink? My wife made a really interesting point that one of the reasons to prep is not because it's the only way to get the supplies. The reason to prep is so that you don't have to make terrible tradeoffs when you need the supplies. And, you know, the terrible tradeoff could be as simple as paying $10 a gallon for gasoline to run your generator, or it could be a lot worse.

And, I mean, you know, people, especially women in refugee camps all the time, have to make terrible trade-offs. You know, I went crazy with vinegar and salt. People are laughing at honey, like 100 pounds of honey. Because if it does go down, I want to provide it for the neighbors. I want the entire community to be preserved as much as possible so that we can barter, so that if they have all the ammo, if they have, you know, whatever, we can all kind of come together and those things

become extremely valuable. Ian bought an absurd amount of salt, vinegar and honey. Never go bad. And we laugh mostly at the vinegar. Because, like, I don't know what you do with it. However, I do understand it can be used for a lot of chemical processes. So it's a funny

idea that you'd have so much vinegar because how often do you really use it in some recipes? But in actuality, it lasts forever, doesn't it? As far as I know, yeah. It does, and I'm going to jump in and defend Ian because when you've got vinegar, you can pickle anything. So when your harvest comes in all over four weeks but you want to store it for the winter, just pile that under vinegar. Is that all you do? You just put vinegar? Yeah.

I thought you needed brine. Brine is salt, so Ian's covered there as well. No, exactly. So, yeah, I mean, honey never goes bad. Right, right. Salt is – you definitely need salt. Where would you get your salt in your diet if you're in an area like this, in Appalachia? Yeah.

Is salt naturally occurring or what? You know, if there was a disaster or something and you had to improvise, I would go with road salt. But other than that, you know, you're going to be trading people who are, you know, bringing in salt from the ocean. Salt was the currency at one point 5,000, 6,000 years ago. I was thinking about this earlier because we bought some deer salt licks. Oh, yeah. You just chuck them out and leave on them or something. And I see the deer is going nuts from because there's no salt.

Right, right. And so the deer, when they find salt, there's's a warning on it saying make sure you put out several otherwise the deer will fight each other to get it because there's no salt so imagine if you didn't have salt see this is a crazy thing people don't realize in in even you know we get out of the city we're in the middle of nowhere people still don't realize that we're dependent on so much like oh my god vitamin c for instance i don't know where we would source vitamin C out here. We could probably try and grow some stuff. Maybe because we're more modernized,

we can grow stuff indoors and try and grow some citrus or something. But where would we get vitamin C? What's your recommendation on that? For that, again, I'm not a super prepper, but rose hips have vitamin C and we get roses in the yard. So, you know.

Got wild roses here. Just eat a bunch of roses. Yeah. Wow. Boiled in a tea. Yep, absolutely. That'd be roses. Yeah. Just eat a bunch of roses. Yeah. Wow. Boiled in a tea. Yep. Absolutely. That'd be a good way to do it.

Can you boil grass? Can you work with grass for food? I know you can't eat it directly because of excessive cellulose. Yeah. I don't think there's many calories in grass. I would feed grass to my sheep and then eat the sheep. So. That'd work.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the easiest way to do it. Chickens eat grass. Yes, they do. But they can't subsist off of grass, right? You know, chickens will get a lot of their calories from bugs and worms. Yeah. That's the easiest way to do it. Chickens eat grass. Yes, they do. But they can't subsist off of grass, right? You know, chickens will get a lot of their calories from bugs and worms. Yeah.

And so we've got our chickens in a pen, but there's a thing that a lot of people do, which is a chicken tractor. And that has nothing to do with a diesel-powered tractor. It's basically a mobile pen with wheels on it. And the idea is that you put your chickens in this pen, and then you just go out, and either with your riding mower or your tractor or just by hand, you move it 10 or 15 feet a day. Chicken city on wheels. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, people have recommended it, and I've heard that people will put it over where they want to farm.

Right. Let the chickens tear it up, then move it, and then they can plant stuff in it, and they fertilize it. So I've got a thought about this, and this is something I go into my book. There's some utility in this. You know, chickens are great. Pigs are great. I don't have pigs this year, but in general, I have pigs like every other year.

But people sometimes want to say, oh, man, you know, and this is sort of like after a deep bong hit, you know, the system, you know, nature gives you everything you need, man. The pigs will furrow, you know, they'll turn up the soil for you so you don't need to till.

And there's a little bit of truth here, but there's a whole lot more wishful thinking. And I've never seen anyone who says that pigs will till your soil who actually have their own pigs it's uh to some degree wishful thinking so the pigs are no good pigs are great um but pigs do not replace uh tractors or rototillers or plows yeah yeah yeah so if if uh you know what what should the average person be buying like in time? Right. Well, let me let me slow down. We were previously talking about a dramatic change in that system. Let's start from there. What does this change look like?

Do you think we've talked a lot about like balkanization? Yeah. Where were the and I want to be clear on this. It's like the political factions basically choose their specific region and they break apart and move. Do you think it's something like that? What do you think? Right. So, you know, first of all, I don't want to really be certain about this. choose their specific region, and they break apart and move. Do you think it's something like that? What do you think we're looking at? So, you know, first of all, I don't want to really be certain about this. I always find people who are absolutely certain to be a little, you know, I've got a head-scratching attitude about that, that, you know,

I don't know, man, you haven't seen the future. But I think the interesting thing about information technology, whether we're talking about the Gutenberg Press or whether we're talking about, you know, TCP IP or Twitter or whatever, is that it connects people who are further and further apart with lower and lower latency. So if you want to look at like 1776, you know, people in different towns in Massachusetts had a lot more in common with each other than they had with people back in, you know, Wales or, you know, various parts of England because they could only communicate with a few letters, you know, with a latency of six months or so.

And so that made it very easy for the regions to sort of grow apart and have their own political cultures. And the weird thing about the high-speed connection we have is that we have, you know, two tribes, obviously red and blue, but then a lot more tribes. You know, if you go to, you know, some furry fandom thing. Right, yellow. You know, you pick anything, whether it's, you know, Mustang engine, you know, modification community, or whether it's preppers, or whether, you know, it's anything. Guns.

Yeah, you'll find that these tribes are geographically distributed. So I think that we might be headed to a world where the Westphalian nation state, where all of the nations have crisp little borders around them, is perhaps fading, and we're going to a new world where the tribes are interleaved and distributed across and on top of each other. I've been thinking a lot about that dissolution of the nation states since about 2006. Really, since Internet video when I realized how powerful and connected we are now with video chat. Like, how do you see it happening without – because the downside was I don't want a one-world government that's totalitarian. Now I'm looking at more of a decentralized localization.

I mean, obviously you work with crypto. Like, how do you see something like that working? Again, I'm going to say I can speculate since you're asking me to speculate. If you go back to the medieval period, there was this interesting thing where there was less of a crisp boundary in the Westphalian sense. You might have somebody who was a – the example I said before the show started, is you can imagine that there was someone, you know, peddling out on the street and the guards come up and say, hey, it's Sunday, you can't sell stuff. And he, you know, holds up his warrant and he says, you know, actually I'm a Jew, so I'm, you know, bound by different doctrine, right, religious code.

But I'm also tied in a little bit to your political system and I've got a warrant from the Duke who says, you know, yes, I'm a Jew with his permission, I, religious code. But I'm also tied in a little bit to your political system, and I've got a warrant from the Duke who says, you know, yes, I'm a Jew with his permission. I'm doing things. And the answer is, oh, okay, so you're on the same territory as people who are under this other power, but you're under a different sort of chain of command. Whoa. And – I can't imagine that being a good thing.

You know, when the world changes, good or bad doesn't really matter. Right. It comes out of incentives. Nope. I think it might be a decent thing. I think we're going that way. Yeah. I mean, you look at the racial identitarianism from the establishment in this country, and it really does look like that's where we're going.

Yeah. I mean, you know, right now we're already in that. You know, one person at Harvard is under a different law than someone else, depending on, you know, his skin color, you know, his admission there, the behavioral norms that's expected and everything else. Or actually, you can't even get into Harvard if you're Asian, for the most part. So, yeah, absolutely. Different rules just based on what you look like. And, you know, there's little hints of that, that, you know, if someone is from overseas and they've got diplomatic plates, we're here, you know, not too far from D.C. and I saw that.

So I think that polycentric law overlapping in the same geographic location is something that has happened before in the Middle Ages, and I think it could happen again, not making a strong prediction. And this ties into we were talking about anarcho-capitalism, and one of the sort of leading luminaries of anarcho-capitalism is David Friedman, the son of Milton Friedman, and he's written a bunch of great books on the topic. The seminal one is The Machinery of Freedom, which was one of the books that, along with Robert Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, really sort of created my worldview. But he's written some other good ones, Law's Order,

and one I read a few months ago was Legal Systems, very different from our own. So I'm not sure. We'll see what happens over the coming decades. I could see an augmented reality system where when you look around, people have like a different aura if they're under different jurisdiction law or something. But my wonder is what if the power goes out? Would that system function? Could it function? Do you think it's something that – You know, what if the power goes out gets back to sort of robustness and anti-fragility?

And, you know, I expect that long-term technology is going to stick around and that we will be living in a hyper-networked world. So that sort of pulls in the opposite direction of the sort of localism and the anti-fragile homesteading that we're talking about. So I don't know. In investing, some people talk about a barbell strategy where you want to have a lot of your money in sort of safe, reasonable things like index funds, but you also want to have a small amount and really potential high payoff bets. You know, this is the venture capital model. And politically, looking towards the future, on the one hand, you know, sort of,

I hope for everyone has, you know, human rights and the power grid stays up and the food supplies are good. But I also have sheep that I can eat in my own orchard and I can make my own wine in case it goes bad. We got to get off the grid. So we're getting off a centralized economy, centralized law, centralized electricity. It's got to be polycentric.

You know a lot about Rome. I know some, yeah. When Rome collapsed, as you mentioned before, latency, distance between communications was a very long time. Absolutely. And then you end up with their own political cultures. And then you mentioned now we're in this new era of technology. It's going to be really interesting, in my opinion, just to elaborate on that idea, when you have one faction of people. Maybe it's a family, and they're anarcho-capitalists.

And they're online communicating with the anarcho-capitalist community, but they're decentralized. Their neighbor is a socialist. Their other neighbor is a conservative, free enterprise sort of, but still some government control. How will there be cohesive law if people right next to each other are just at odds? It's a great question, and I'll take a stab at answering it. But, again, I want to be clear that I'm not predicting that. Like, this is definitely the way it's going to happen. David Friedman talked about this, and he's the one who came up with sort of polycentric legal order.

And what he said is, you know, you, Tim, might subscribe to one legal system where you want to keep trespassers off your land. That's pretty important to you. Someone else might subscribe to a legal system that has an English right to roam. And then in England, apparently, if you've got a certain amount of land, you can't keep people off of it. They're allowed to just walk right across as the sort of traditional right of the Englishman. So what happens when these things come in conflict? Like one guy says, I've got an absolute right to

walk across your backyard. And you say, I've got an absolute right to keep you out. And theoretically, someone who wanted to diss on anarcho-capitalism would say, well, and then of course you'd get a gun battle. And that's why anarcho-capitalism is the worst possible political ideology, ideology in the world. Um, but you know, in, in the real world, when corporations run into things like, you know, you've stolen my intellectual property. Cause I think that my patent on, you know, how resistors work is, you know, blah, blah, blah. And you say, no, I, I'm using a different thing. It looks similar, but it's not, we don't get guns and Duke this out. Uh, we, you know, we just hire lawyers and they settle it.

So I think that that would happen. Now, the next parody is, okay, Travis is arguing that any time two people have a disagreement about trespassing in a garden, like is there an easement or is there not, then there's a $90 when something is iterated, there is not a need to hash it out time and time and time again. Both sides see, you know, really a negotiated solution here and some rules of the road make sense. So if you look at any place where firms interact, they either come up with their own laws or they come up with their own governance bodies to help them interact with each other. Because, you know, if you look at evolution, animals don't battle to the death with each other because uh you know if you look at evolution animals don't battle to the death with each other when you've got two rams and they both want to you know dominate the herd of ewes um it doesn't make sense if one ram is aiming to kill the other because he's likely to get severely damaged in that the uh utility maximizing compromise is some sort of dominance display and head bashing and then one of them sulks off because he can live to try again another

day and i i think people are not idiots people do not get into gun battles but i i i i somewhat disagree um you look we we talked about the wacky laws you know recently where you've got some places where it's like you can't take a shower on tuesdays and it actually made sense because back in the day the local aquifer was like you know we like they said we have to have one day where nobody uses water so it can replenish a little bit. But now we have better water systems. We have tons of water. So we produce these laws based on the specifics that are happening in our areas.

So you have a community and they build a culture. They build rules and laws for each other, by each other, and sometimes in disagreement with each other, but understanding the problem. Hey, look, a bear keeps coming in. So we're going to pass a law. You can't have picnic baskets lying around wherever well now you've got somebody who's on the internet and he does not subscribe to any of his immediate community when they go outside they're clashing and one guy's on nothing but socialist forums and one guy's on nothing but

you know ancap forums and so they're completely at odds locally i don't necessarily uh think that they would just agree to resolve the solution because the resolution itself is part of the local community and culture and law. That's a great argument, and I follow it, and it's convincing. And so now the great thing about pontificating while sitting on my butt is I can say, okay, if you didn't like that answer, I've got another one. And the other one is that just as the cost of information transmission is falling, the cost of picking up and moving your butt is falling. You know, I moved from Massachusetts where the local community and the norms and the politics were very much not to my liking. And I moved to New Hampshire eight years ago. And a lot of ANCAPs in New Hampshire. There are. There's a joke. You know, I don't know if I would necessarily say that I'm part of the free state project, but I'm certainly FSP adjacent and I know a lot of FSP people.

And there's a joke, what's the difference between a libertarian and an ANCAP? And the answer is six months in New Hampshire. So I think picking up and moving to be around people who are like you is a good thing. And there's a phrase, the great sort, which is mostly talking about demographics and mating. But I think that to some degree, it's also happening geographically. I completely agree. I mean, look at how many people moved to Texas recently. Right.

Joe Rogan, Elon Musk announced it. But a ton of people, there's a lot of regular people that moved. And one of the things I've warned, though, is that while Joe Rogan and Elon Musk are, they seem to be left-leaning individuals. I mean, Elon Musk calls himself a socialist, whether he is or not. I don't know. It's funny considering he's a master troll. That's right, right, right. But the people they bring with them when they move their companies

and their jobs they bring people with them in their periphery who are definitely not going to agree with exactly what happens there in texas but i digress you know that being said i do think there's a great sort happening i mean look we moved we moved effectively to west virginia i was living in new york city only a years ago, moved to the Philly suburbs. Now we're in the mountains, you know, essentially. I say that because we're in the tri-state. It's a beautiful country, by the way. I loved the drive out here.

I saw the deer. Every day I look outside, there's a family of deer doing their thing. And, you know, I wanted to get away from the city. So we move closer and closer to people who are more and more like-minded. For me, I would say it's not necessarily that the people around here are like-minded, but we agree to leave each other alone. Right. Which is big. Yeah, absolutely.

Where I keep finding the problem or a problem regarding this whole concept of decentralized law is if a community wants to pollute the air because that can affect the entire globe if it's done on a mass enough scale. If they're pumping methane and carbon and radioactive materials up into the atmosphere to produce just pure industry, like hundreds of thousands of people for decades could just destroy things like thousands of miles away. Or polluting the water, like the ocean, like dumping. So a lot of the plastic waste. I was going to go there next. Yeah, India and China, plastic waste.

We've got all of these rules against having plastic you know, plastic straws in the U.S. And really, it's all coming from just one small place. So are we ultimately, will we need a global, like an overseer? So, you know, my answer to this is that freedom can only exist on the frontier. And, you know, America has got a really unique libertarian culture. You find a few libertarians in other places, but it's endemic to, you know, the United States. And that's because of our culture. We ran into a, you know, quote unquote, empty, which is, you know, the Western hemisphere was empty because of the tragedy of communicable diseases. But we evolved this idea

of a frontier because we had a frontier. And that's why you can sort of never really communicate about some of these topics with people in other parts of the country. And so if I may plug something else, Tim introduced me as an author, and the first things I wrote before the Homesteading books were two anarcho-capitalistic novels, which pretty much have the thesis that we can only achieve freedom out on the frontier. So the first one is The Powers of the Earth, which won the Prometheus Award for Best Novel in 2018. And the sequel is Causes of Separation, which won the Prometheus Award in 2019. I think you are correct about that with the freedom. The way I've described it is, you know how gases, the molecules, are bouncing around quite a bit, liquids a little bit, and then solids, they're rigid. Yep. When you look at big cities, I view it as a solid.

Yeah. All of these individuals stacked on top of each other, and that room to bounce around erratically, that's your freedom. Yep. The more people surround you, the more you push, and it compresses your sphere of freedom. So it's actually, it's a really, really easy way to explain it. I love your analogy, and because I'm a nerd, I'm going to make it a little nerdier, which is the ideal

gas law, which is PV equals NRT. And, you know, it's a great analogy because one thing that happens when you add more molecules that have this kinetic energy or when you crush them in tighter space is the temperature goes up. Yeah, absolutely.

Or the system expands right right you know so we can go to sort of the carno cycle that it pushes out and uh you know the piston but we're we're talking about compression so that energy is getting released yeah and uh the easiest way to explain it is just playing the drums that in order to play the drums you need a massive sphere of freedom you can't do it in the suburbs. You might be able to, but you have to get permission. You have to ask, hey, do you guys mind if we're playing the drums? I know, you know, the zoning laws say that, the ordinance says, I can be noisy

until 10pm, but then your neighbors get mad at you and then you're fighting with your neighbors. You talk to them, they'll say, okay, play the drums, but only between this hour or, okay, make noise, but only between this hour. You can't play drums in the city. You got one person above you, one to your left, to your right, and one behind you. And and you play the drums and they're going to be like are you nuts it's it's it's not about i can sort of hear it it's you're literally banging next to next door

to me like turn your music it's a movie trope the so people people are stacked on top of each other there's no room for freedoms i i absolutely agree um one of you know, there's a dozen or five dozen reasons that I don't want to live in a city and I can't stand the city. But one of them is that I'm an introvert. And, you know, I know people who often propose systems. Like I've got one friend who is proposing a hackerspace. And my answer to a hackerspace is I have a hackerspace. It's my garage. And I've got, you know, MIG welders and, you know, bandsaws and lathes and everything I want to do. And so anytime I want to do a project, the tools are there and I'm first in line and don't have to wait for anyone else. And I think that one of the reasons that he likes the idea of a hackerspace is because all of these things are up for negotiation.

We get to come together as a community and decide the rules for how we should do this. And we get to come together as a community. So what I would see as a cost, which is the interactions and the negotiations, is for him a benefit. And I think a lot of people who love cities actually love the fact that you have to negotiate everything. They talk about a certain sense of community, and that's what makes New York City great, the fact that when one person vomits on the subway that everyone else helps everyone else walk around it. And I don't like interacting, So if I want to play the drums and get my Neil Peart on, I don't want to have to talk to 10 other people about it.

Regarding PV and RT, this is a little bit of an aside. I'd like to hear what you think about this. When you increase the pressure, it either is going to enhance the temperature or expand the system. Yep. But it's just for tubular systems, the way that was written out to get water. I think it's to get water out of wells or something. So PV equals NRT, the ideal gas law, is what you would use to describe a piston in a cylinder, whether it's an internal combustion engine or a Stirling engine. But it would also apply to, say, a balloon. So is it possible that as the balloon expands, the expansion causes friction,

which is energy from outside of the system, to cause it to heat up faster, which causes it to expand faster, which causes more friction, which causes more heat, and a faster, so you get acceleration or I guess you'd call it inflation. And so an inflated system. I think it hasn't been written yet. I think what you're saying is that the more people live in close proximity, the faster the acceleration towards collapse? Well, maybe.

What I'm getting at is I think that in order to explain free energy, this is totally off topic. I'm sorry, but I want to talk about PVNRT. We got to move on from that. Okay, but in order to get free energy, to explain to the people scientifically, we need to explain inflation in PVNRT. Well, I was analogy for people smashed on top of each other and then fighting with each other in the streets. If they have nowhere to go, it's going to raise the temperature so i think um i i think it's going to happen sooner this this excitement this collapse this this rage uh one thing people need to realize is that we're in a lull period with the election for the president was last year there's no real

cycle right now this year's everyone kind of just like exhausted 2022 is the midterms. 2023 is the presidential primary cycle, followed by 24, the presidential cycle. And that is going to be ramping up worse, more extreme than we saw. But I do want to show this story real quick. And the story itself, I think, is important. I don't think it's the most excitable story. It's from NBC. All children should wear masks in school this fall, even if vaccinated, according to pediatrics group the american academy of pediatrics is calling the new guidance a layered approach we had steve bannon on the show nice he said on august 15th when mothers start learning about what their children are being taught there is going to be you know a ruckus or there's gonna it's gonna i

don't know i don't know the exact word but you know you get the point it's like yeah people are gonna lose it and he's right i think a lot of the critical race theory stuff is going to result in moms being shocked and angered but this is already happening yeah oh absolutely absolutely now consider when kids are back in school summer ends i saw this story and i saw it on reddit and i looked at the comments because the first thing i thought when i saw that they were that schools wanted to make kids wear wear masks, even if they're vaccinated. My immediate thought was there is no way even the establishment leftists, the people who march on a dime for the for the establishment, are going to be OK with this. Because even though we have seen to great lengths, these people are willing to contort themselves. This will snap their brains like a rubber band.

And I was right. Surprisingly, the top comments on Reddit, which is mostly leftists, were like, I can't do this anymore. I can't handle this. One response was, I'm a high school teacher. This is insane. I will not be the mass police.

I can't handle this. And it was just inundated people saying, this is nuts. It's gone too far. We're losing control. But the funny thing is, they were trying to adhere to the narrative. Like, we have to do it.

But their brains were just at that point where the rubber band was going to snap. Seeing the person say, I'm a high school teacher and I just can't handle it anymore. And I'm like, whether they want to support the narrative or not, the rubber band is going to snap back. And then something's going to happen. I don't know what. Maybe it actually stabilizes things. I see a lot of doom posting on Twitter from my tribe talking about, oh gosh, you know,

the left is going further on this and this. The 1984 totalitarian, blah, blah, blah. We're all doomed and it's all over. And linear extrapolations, I think, are always naive and wrong because there are feedback loops. And as stuff gets crazier, more and more people start saying,

I can't buy into this anymore. And I think that we are rapidly approaching that point. The cathedral or the, you know, political organization right now has this plan that has worked for them. And it's worked for 20 or 30 or 40 years, which is you bang more and more about racism. And it motivates the base and it gets people out to march and it motivates donations. And, you know, they did this for all four years of Trump. And, you know, there's a terrible thing. I mean, it's hilarious, but it's also terrible, which is that the word racist and the word Nazi have lost all power.

Because, you know, racism is a terrible thing and no one wants to be called a racist if it's meaningful. And Nazis are, you know, the second worst political thing after communism. And, you know, that's terrible and no one wants to be called a Nazi. And so at first they're saying, you know, okay, these literal Nazis marching down the streets are Nazis. And you're like, yes, they are. They're saying terrible things about Jews. You know, that's terrible. And then next they're saying, you know, this guy who's not a Nazi, but he's got some, you know, really bad opinions as a Nazi.

You're like, yeah, okay, I guess that's pretty Nazi-like. And then pretty soon, you know, my half-igerian friend fred is being called a nazi i'm like i a he's not a nazi and b that word is now entirely meaningless it doesn't matter anymore right right it's not about the word being meaningless the word can mean whatever it wants i just don't care right that's that's what i'm saying you've done something amazing when half the population doesn't care but it's not about half the population it's not half the population doesn't care anymore. It's not about half the population. It's not half the population. I don't care about what these leftist rage bait smear merchants care for the same reason. I don't care about what people in Liberia are saying about me. It's a different country and it has nothing to do with me. Right.

So when I see these people who I know live in Wally world and believe nonsensical garbage, I'm like, they can say whatever they want. I'm over it. Yep. I don't view them as, look, the divide in this country has grown so great. Right. There's two countries. It's beyond two countries.

It's like a shatter and there's all these different fractals. It is beyond two countries. It is beyond two countries. When I heard, this is the example I use every time, Joe Biden talking about lockdowns. When red states were doing the opposite, I was like, that's it. It is very clear that he does not view us as part of the conversation or as part of the country or as someone who needs to be talked to. So when I see someone in the mainstream media, NBC or whatever, say something, I'm like, why do I care what they think? It is not part of the world I live in.

And I didn't start it. I'm just responding to it. Absolutely. My friend Adam said something really interesting a month or two back, which is, you know, I think his exact words were, I'm realizing more and more that I'm a patriot of a country that never really existed. And I think, you know, if you look at Twitter and other places, people on the right are saying, you know, effectively, I don't know what I believe in. I, you know, believe in this 1950s world, but also that 1950s world was maybe more an artifact of marketing than reality. Oh, yeah.

And people on the left, you know, they march, but then the world isn't operating the way they think it's supposed to operate and their models are broken. There's a huge cultural malaise or ennui or something going on because all of the old explanations and answers have broken down. Joe Biden isn't motivating anyone. There's no narratives that are motivating anyone. We're discovering the new world right now. It's true, man. We ended slavery, but China didn't, and we buy products from China

that are getting made by slaves. We're basically still supporting slavery. We have companies that have used sweatshop labor for a long time. It's blatant. Like, it is blatant structurally in the economy. And I'll tell you this, because at Occupy Wall Street, they had a memorial for Steve Jobs. That, to me, was the funniest thing.

Now, it's not like the people of Occupy all came together and voted. Here, here, we all agree. But many people there set up a memorial because he died in October of 2011. And I was laughing. It's just like the absurdity of one of the most ruthless, cutthroat capitalist businessmen who exploited Chinese communist slave labor is being propped up by these people at Occupy. And I was there and I'm just like, and you know what? I've long known because I worked nonprofits, that it's all marketing. It's all PR.

It's all an attempt to gain support. But I think what happens is the internet allows for, you know, we used to have five TV channels or whatever. Three if you're older. Three, right. And everyone just agreed with the narrative coming from these channels. The Overton window was an inch wide. That's right. Now, with the internet, the Overton window extends,

for the most part, from the center right to the far left. It's kind of hilarious that that's true. The mainstream will allow these conversations. They'll wag their finger at the center right, and they'll clap for the far left. But anyway, the main point is that it allows the entirety of the political compass

to exist now in the space, even if we can say the Overton window doesn't include the far right, the authoritarian right, and for some reason ANCAPs get lumped in there sometimes. I mean, I think the Overton window includes just enough Republicans that they, the cathedral or they, the sort of central political organization, can say, oh, we're tolerant. We accept everyone up to John McCain and maybe Mitt Romney on a good day. But regardless of what the cathedral thinks, there are online communities for literally every section. Absolutely. And it's glorious. I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it used to be much, much harder. It was much more centralized, more of a – now it's evened out quite a bit. But I do think this is causing a lot of our problems, especially when – so we're seeing this shuffling, this great sorting algorithm is kind of happening.

West Virginia is losing residents. And one of the stories I read was about a teacher. And she gave an interview and she was like, what they're doing to the unions and how they treat us is absurd and the state is racist. So I'm leaving. I'm going to Austin or something like that or some other city. And I'm like, isn't it fascinating that in one of the – West Virginia, I think, is the second most Trump-supporting state from 2020. And you have the people who are Democrats outraged and leaving.

Meanwhile, you have the more conservative types from cities outraged and leaving. Everything's being sorted. It's almost like we're in this big um you know sieve or whatever and it's being absolutely shaking it and some are falling through and some aren't yeah so i i wonder the fascinating thing about this is you know we i've talked about civil war quite a bit and right now we have this poll showing the balkan potential balkanization it's i did the math 37.2 percent of the population is in favor of their region balkanizing. You know, my dad is a real centrist Republican, you know, sort of Mitt Romney Republican.

And I had the pleasure of seeing my folks over this past weekend after a year and a half because of covid. And my dad, this sort of, you know, mainstream whatever media TV is telling me, you know, he's talking about, you know, we need to break into two countries. And when you're looking at, you know, 75 year old boomers who came up in the system and they're saying, you know, they're sounding like some crazy neo-reactionary on Twitter. Man, the world's gotten strange. But it's not neo-reactionary. It's 47 percent of Democrats on the West Coast. So what we're seeing with this with separation is I'm not actually convinced it's going to just be, you know. So one thing I've said recently is that I think we're more likely to break up than see civil war. Yeah.

But I'll stress, with this great sorting that's happening, it's entirely possible we do see the country split along hard lines. You know, we're definitely not going to see civil war because wars happen when you've got a lot of young men and our population structure will not support a war. You know, there's just not enough cannon fodder. Neil Stevenson, a great science fiction author, one of my favorites, has had the sort of future history

of loosely linked books. And he has sort of, you know, crazy red tribe rural areas and crazy blue tribe rural areas. And somehow they coexist. And I think that sometimes governments just get exhausted and don't have the political will

to enforce hegemony. And, you know, I think that we're to some degree stepping into that world right now where we get soft secession that, you know, maybe the tax dollars keep filing back to Washington and, you know, maybe the bomber bases still sit here, but we're not going to listen to laws we don't want to. And we've seen that with marijuana legalization at the state level. What if we end up with multiple layers of governments going on at once, one while the electricity is on and one if it goes off and it's like a contingency? Well, let's let's be real for a second.

What do you think is going to happen to these blue areas when the collapse or the disarray happens or the you know, you know, it's a red tribe talking point that, you know, oh, you know, the blue areas, they're all fashion designers and accountants. And there's a totally fake economy there. And these people don't produce anything. Whereas out here in steel and corn country, this is the real world. And, you know, I understand the emotions behind that, that the blue tribe often doesn't see the red tribe virtues. They don't appreciate hard work and diligence and breaking bones

and getting sweaty and all these other things. And so you want to believe that they're a feat losers, bug men living in pods. And my books, by the way, start out, I think, on the dedication page, that this is to Robert Heinlein who taught us not to be bug men living in pods. But the blue areas do huge amounts of useful things. And we're not going to, you know, if there were a civil war, we're not going to surround Boston for a second time and starve them out because they export intellectual property and they've got a port and all of the food they ever want to buy is going to come in from the world. So

I'm not predicting a collapse and I'm not predicting civil war. I think a peaceful divorce would be great. I think both sides would do OK afterwards. In a peaceful divorce, it wouldn't be both sides. There's no real way to split the country in two, but there could be five regions. There could be a bunch of different regions. I mean, California produces a massive amount of food for the country and for the world, but I'm not convinced that the farmers in Tulare who are mostly trump supporting republicans are going to be like sure i'll give my food to these hippie lunatics in the cities right well give or you know are subject to uh regulation by i mean if conquered yeah um i don't know that either side uh really has the manpower

to do that i think that we are going to see if there is a great divorce which i don't think is super likely but i going to see, if there is a great divorce, which I don't think is super likely, but I hope we do, if there is a great divorce, I think it's going to happen. I think China comes in then. Well, so that's the other thing. If you look at the U.S. Revolution, the U.S. Revolution only succeeded because there was a great power war going on where England didn't have the ability to fight us because they were busy fighting France. And if you look at how the U.S. always plays divide and conquer, we're always backing one faction overseas, you know, the Syrian rebel group versus the other one. And so, you know,

I think China is going to get old before it gets rich. So they are most dangerous for the next 10 or 20 or 30 years. But I don't think that the future of the world is Chinese. But if the U.S. got into severe problems, then absolutely China would be funneling money and weapons. Yeah, and you would see one faction in the United States side with China to win. That would be crazy, just like the revolution, man. I look at these regions in this poll, where it's like you have the Pacific region,

the heartland, the south, the northeast. There was a great book by Joel Grew like 30 years ago called The Nine Nations of North America that I read on this topic. But I think the Northeast might be the most at risk. You know, look, I can look at the heartland. There's a lot of corn there. I can look at the Pacific and be like, California produces a ton of food.

I look at the South and I'm like, also, lots of farmland and fertile areas. The mountain's impossible to take. Northeast, though. How could you invade the mountain? What does the Northeast have? Crabs? The Northeast has ports. I mean, if you go to Whole Foods in Cambridge, Massachusetts right now, where is that food coming from?

I'm sure some of it is coming from Vermont, but a lot of it's coming from Chile or Brazil. Let's say the Northeast was just by itself. Okay. What does it have to offer for its ports to function? Lumber? Crab? Lumber? Lumber.

Yeah, I mean, I think that as— What is New Hampshire going to get? What do we export? We've got a lot of rocks. New Hampshire, I think its leading industries are things like, you know, healthcare administration. And, you know, well, you know, I don't want to work in that industry. I'd rather do what I do. But again, this gets to the Red Tribe belief that, like, that's not real work.

It's all make work and there's no reason for it to exist. And I'm going to go with sort of a Chesterton fence that this exists and I assume there's a good reason for it. They're presumably delivering value to someone. There are many jobs that should not exist but are forced to. There's a great essay, Bullshit, excuse me, but Bull Jobs, and I don't know if you see it. And I think I do agree with that.

So I'm not going to contradict myself. I thought about this for a long time. Insurance salesmen. No offense if you sell insurance, but for the most part, people just go online and automatically get their service. McDonald's, fast food restaurants, they're just replacing people with kiosks. And so what I think is happening is that one thing I've actually – I've talked about this since I was a teenager, the struggle of capitalism in a technological revolution is, and this is really obvious for a lot of people, that when you have an industrialization,

a lot of jobs get washed away. But in our current system, we don't just give people stuff. The challenge there is, if one person has to work to help the society survive, they will not tolerate, very likely,

if other people are not working and getting equal access to resources. Right. So long as there are people who need to make food, giving free food to other people is going to make people angry. In which case, that's one of the biggest challenges we have as we move forward technologically. You'll get people saying, don't take my job away. And then when someone gets their job taken away through no fault of their own, and then you get a government subsidy, then they're like, you're taking my tax dollars to pay them.

With this potential breakup or great reset, they will erase all of these jobs. And they are. We see fast food restaurants struggling to hire people. How long until they all just upgrade to kiosks? Many of them probably will. And then how about this? I went to – I was at a rest station. They had an ice cream box.

And it was a little robot man. And I wanted a chocolate sundae with chocolate syrup and sprinkles. And the little robot man just goes, and then hands me the little thing. We don't need a human being to do it anymore. So this great reset, I imagine, is going to purge a ton of jobs. To go off on a tangent about this job loss, the libertarian or free market answer is actually automation in steel mills is great because it used to take 100 blacksmiths to do something.

And sure, you're upset that 99% of them are unemployed, but they're now going to get new jobs as machinists. And as we get rid of the sort of... But that's not true. Somebody who was mining coal can't learn to code. Right. And so I agree with you. And that's where I'm going with this thesis. It was true to some decent degree that as certain jobs went away, there were always

more jobs that were brought in. But we're getting to a point where we can automate any job that requires less than a 70 IQ and then an 80 IQ and a 90 IQ. And someone who happens to be born with a 90 IQ, that's no deficit of character. That's just how it is, and he's equally a human being as anyone else. But you start to get to a problem when we can automate anything under a 90 or 95 or 100 or 105 IQ. And I do worry that we're getting to that world. Now, you were talking about the anger against welfare,

and there is a fair bit of anger. But on the other hand, we have as a society a rhetorical device or several rhetorical devices. We have welfare for the old called Social Security. And the polite fiction is you paid into that and you did, but you end up taking a lot more out of it than you put in. And we have another polite fiction, which is disability. And the fiction there is you can't work, so a decent society helps you. And there are some people who are truly disabled. There was a good article in The Atlantic, I don't know, like two or three years ago, talking about how disability is kind of a different form of welfare,

where if you go to the right doctor and say the right things, where there are unfalsifiable statements like, my back hurts, then you get it. And so, you know, all societies have white lies they tell themselves, and I wonder if disability is ours to deal with the fact that cognitive things are being priced out. Let's think about that in the context of the Great Reset or a great divorce in this country. How will people in cities get access to food from farmers? Right now what we're seeing is they're doing this unemployment thing. They've been doing it nonstop.

They're doing child tax credits now. So a lot of people who aren't working are getting money. That means for the farmer who's growing corn or wheat or whatever and they go to sell it, they do a lot of work. They have to. You can't just snap your fingers and make that stuff. It's hard work. No, that's hard work. You don't just poke a hole in the ground and drop a seed in.

It was a coma or something. Right. But the people in the cities, they're handed money and they walk to you and they get your labor effectively for free. I can't imagine that's sustainable. Yeah. The only way that actually keeps sustaining itself is that the people doing the work don't know that people who aren't doing work are, you know, as long as they don't know that's happening, but they do know it's happening. Yeah.

Yeah. So I can only imagine, you know, going back to that, as you mentioned, what did you call it, a red state belief or the... Yeah, red state, red tribe. Red tribe belief. I'll tell you this, man. I know a lot of people live in cities. You put them in the middle of the woods, it's over.

So this ties into a prepping thing where, you know, I sometimes flip through prepping magazines when I'm at the bookstore having a coffee, which I do, you know, once a week or so. Or, you know, someone will forward me something off of a prepping form. And people like this idea that, oh, I'm going to buy a can of survival seeds. Or my plan when the system collapses, I'm going to bug out, and I'm going to find an abandoned farm, and I'll just start farming. And, you know, speaking of my own experience, my wife and I have been on the farm for about eight years,

and we have been working, you know, hugely hard, you know, on the order of, own experience, my wife and I have been on the farm for about eight years, and we have been working hugely hard on the order of all of Saturday, all of Sunday, weeding and chainsawing down trees and converting pasture and stretching fences. And we've also brought in pros to help us with some of this fencing and other stuff. And there's so much equipment and there's so much specialized knowledge, which is why the books are so thick, where I learned that, oh, in this pasture, I want to grow hay so that I can feed sheep so that I can get food from that. But before I can grow hay, I've got to kill off the poison ivy,

which means that I need to put down 2,4-D and 3,6-D at a certain application rate. And just to finish real quickly, the idea that you're going to wander out with a can of survival seeds as civilization is collapsing and feed yourself is absolutely insane. Homesteading is a viable approach but you know it's a 10-year plan what what's the um for let's tomatoes how long out of the year do you get viable tomatoes right absolutely so uh you know if you plant all of your tomatoes at once all of your tomato harvest is going to come in over a course of two weeks now you can stagger that by planting tomatoes week one, week two, week three in different batches.

But even then, your tomatoes are going to be very, you know, short interval. And there's not a lot of calories in tomatoes. So, you know, again, getting the survival scenario, this is fine. You know, homesteading is a hobby and a lifestyle. And I'll defend it as that. But it's not, you know, a way to survive the apocalypse with no inputs. There's a huge amount of inputs of diesel, fuel, and fertilizer and other stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah.

We have our tomatoes. I would say that we had four standard tomato plants and one cherry tomato. The cherry tomatoes, easy. I walk outside. We pick them all. We walk in. They're good to go. The regular tomatoes, extremely difficult.

The bugs get them. Yep. And a lot of rot. They're good to go. The regular tomatoes, extremely difficult. The bugs get them. Yep. And a lot of rot. Some of them turn black. And there's all sorts of details. Like if you want to save the seeds from tomatoes, tomatoes are tricky because there is a sort of gel-like coating on the seeds. And you have to let the seeds sit in the gel and rot for a week or two and then wash them off and then preserve the seeds. And this is another thing that if you don't know this stuff, you're just

going to make an absolute hash of it. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, we have a garden. And the funny thing is we get, like, baseball bat-sized zucchini. And over the course of the past two weeks, it's like, we can't eat all this. Like, we just set up a garden, but we grew a whole bunch. All the tomatoes come around the same time. And then we're like, what are we going to do?

Make a sauce, I guess? You know, preservation technology is huge. Yes. And there's a whole lot of flavors that we as humans like because we've sort of evolved in a semi-civilized state. We love smoked beef jerky. Yeah. Because that's a preservation technology.

We like pickles because that's a preservation technology. We like cheese because that's a preservation technology. Yeah. And my hint with the zucchini, by the way, I peel my zucchini. I shred them in a food processor. I vacuum seal them. I throw them in a chest freezer. And then I mix that with ground turkey and onions and make turkey fritters all year long.

Now, what's fascinating, though, is that a lot of what you're describing is we've got modern technology like freezers and refrigerators. So I'll tell you this, man. Where we are right now, this facility is going to be, for the most part, off the grid. Nice. Meaning our water is well water, and we're getting solar and batteries installed. Nice. We're still on the grid. Yep, yep.

But in the event of an absolute catastrophe, we're going to be able to be fine. We'll have to reduce a lot of our energy consumption. But actually, we'll have a decent amount of power. Cool. These batteries are hefty, man. Yep. I carried like 4,000 pounds of lead-ac acid batteries down to my basement to build my system, so I know all about it.

Yeah, they are hefty. Well, I think we're going to have lithium. Nice. I'm not entirely sure. I put mine in around seven or eight years ago, and I'm building out the solar right now, and the second battery bank is going to be lithium, so it's great. But let's be real, man. People in cities stacked on top of each other, they're not going to have any of this. Absolutely not. The power's going to go out, and the food's going to be lithium. But let's be real, man. Like people in cities stacked on top of each other,

they're not going to have any of this. The power is going to go out and the food is going to be gone. I was in New York when Sandy hit. And there were two guys standing outside of a bodega with two by fours and a baseball bat, one person at a time. And the guy said,

all the refrigerator stuff is spoiled because the power was out for a couple of weeks, I think. They were like, the cans are good. Everything else is spoiled. So, you know, take what you want. Roof Korean is awesome. Yeah, Mountain Dew was fine.

You know, all the sodas were fine. But anything perishable, gone. Right, right. So your freezers, all that stuff in the city, over. Right. What are those people going to do? Yeah, no, they are absolutely screwed. You're going to find them on your farm.

Well, you know, I do have a chapter on firearms. Well, there you go. Right. You know, this ties back to the idea of prepping and the power law, which is the title of one of the essays. I think it's in volume two, where, you know, how often does New York City lose power, you know, for a week or something? It happened, I think, back in 76 or 78 or something. Hurricane Sandy. And Hurricane Sandy.

So this is the kind of thing, it seems inconceivable, but you pull back and zoom out and you're like, no, this crap happens every 30 or 40 years. And you're going to live another 30 or 40 years. You're going to see it happen again. You're going to see all these things happen in your lifetime. This is the craziest thing to me about when I was like, last year, I'm like, hey guys, pick up these, you know, food bins.

I got to say, it was mostly these young people. A lot of these lefties, these socialists are young. They don't have the worldly experience to have dealt with these things. Having seen Hurricane Sandy, I was like, wow, it would be great if I had one of those food bins. So I remember when I was living in New York and I can't remember what was happening. There was some concern about another storm. I went and I bought two things of bottled water. I was like, that's going to be important.

They tell you in Chicago, whenever they say there's a big storm coming, you fill up your bathtub. Because if the water goes bad, if lines break, if some disaster happens, you got a bunch of water in your bathtub. That's the kind of thing people who are older, I guess, learn. Younger people don't. But still, there is like this arrogance of many people live in cities. Like you said, they think they can grab a can of seeds and go find a farm somewhere. I'll tell you, man, in the – what did Noam Chomsky say? In the arena of violence, the most brutal guy wins, and that ain't us.

And he was referring to leftists. These people think they're going to go to a farm where they're going to find a guy who's been using a gun, a firearm, or multiple ones for practical purposes, be it hunting or dealing with rodents and stuff, and they're going to be able to walk on and just lay claim to an already built up and secured and maintained farm? Fertilizer. Yeah. That's what they're going to be is fertilizer. Right. I don't know if humans can be fertilizer.

That's kind of, I don't know. I've got a chapter of composting. Oh, jeez. Well, we hope it doesn't come to that, honestly. Right, right. A lot of hungry people, though. You know, so there's another thing that I hear in prepping circles, and it's a feel-good phrase. You know, it's not the equipment that you have that matters.

It's what you know that matters because, you know, equipment can be taken from you, but what you know is a resource. Yeah. And, you know, if there's some guy living in a basement in Brooklyn and he's been reading survival forms for six years and then the system collapsed and he comes out to my farm and wants to share his knowledge with me for food, I don't need any knowledge that this guy learned from endlessly recycled blog posts. There's some ancient Greek words for different kinds of knowledge, techni and metis or something. But to really, really know something, you've got to do it, and you've got to do it ahead of time.

And you're absolutely doing this with your tomatoes and your chicken. So if you lost power, you've already practiced it. So that's real knowledge. It's not something you're just doing. We got a couple mulberry trees. And so we made mulberry jam. Nice. We mixed wineberry and mulberry, like a wild berry.

That was actually really – I'm not a big fan of mulberries. Oh, I love them. But when you mix them, when I mixed them with the wineberries, it was really good. And the wineberries alone, I think the combination – but anyway, digress. Do you know how many calories you probably do are in 10 mulberries? I'm guessing that it rounds to zero. Like 10. Six.

Okay, all right. Six. Yeah, Ian nailed it last time. He was like, six. I'm like, how did you know that? But 10. Uh-huh. Wow, that's a small handful of berries you're going to shove in your mouth.

Six calories. Right. You will not – there's no amount of mulberry you're going to eat to sustain yourself for even a few hours. Right. And so naturally occurring fruits and stuff, people don't realize – I'll tell you this story. And this plays into exactly what I'm saying. I had friends during Occupy Wall Street, got granted farmland. How long do you think – let me ask you. How long do you think they last that they made it so they went out there and

tried to say they said they said we we don't want to be on the grid we're tired of contributing to this this this machine of pollution and climate change so we're going to the farm to live sustainably three days a week two weeks okay well Well. I'm impressed. Most people say a couple months. No. No. A few days. You didn't even give them the benefit of the doubt. Two weeks.

Okay. You know what they realized? I asked my friend. She was like, I was like, why'd you come back? She was like, because I'd wake up at 6 a.m. to work, go to bed at midnight. Yep. And I'm like, yeah? What did you think farming was?

When you are actually trying to sustain yourself, you never stop working. Right, right. And this gets into, you know, people have said, you know, to me, oh, you know, if we had a collapse of it, you'd love it. You know, like, no, man. Right now, it's a very, very hard hobby that I do on the weekends with lots of diesel fuel coming in and outside. If that diesel fuel went away and, you know, I tried to make a producer gas still using old FEMA plans and started logging trees to make producer gas to do stuff, it's better than starving to death. But that's hard work.

But you know what I did this morning? I went out and I grabbed some fresh jalapenos and a poblano and some cherry tomatoes. And then I went to the chicken coop, and I got a couple eggs. And so one of our chickens is, I guess she's young, so she's doing double eggs. Like, they're twice as big. They're massive. And I would say, to be fair, 99% of my breakfast was completely homegrown. Yeah.

But I threw in some garlic powder. And people like to say, you know, and it's so much healthier. I'm not sure it is healthier, but, man, it's so much more satisfying, isn't it? That's just amazing. We were like, this all came from here. You know, to be honest, I'm not a big fan of throwing peppers in eggs. If I went to a restaurant, I'd be like, give me the bacon and the eggs with extra cheese on top.

But today, I had cherry tomatoes with fresh-cut jalapenos poblano on eggs, and it tasted so good. Nice, nice. That is one of the most satisfying things, And we've done all sorts of stuff. You know, we've made corn fritters. We've made maple syrup creme brulee from maple trees that we've tapped. And I boil down the sap and make my own maple syrup. I push back on homesteaders who say everything tastes better.

Like, no, you know, some food, you know, whole foods in the supermarkets taste really good. The one thing that comes from the farm that's just absolutely amazing is homemade bacon. And, you know, I'm not going to say it's 10% better, it's 20% better. Homemade bacon is like literally 10 times better. Like you just don't want store-made stuff. We've got farms around here. And so we have gotten fresh bacon. And it is indescribable.

Like I don't even want the store-bought stuff. Right, right. It's not the same. Yeah, it's a pale imitation. It's like turkey bacon or something. Yeah. Right. Like, I don't even want the store-bought stuff. Right, right. I mean, it's not the same. Yeah, it's a pale imitation. It's like turkey bacon or something. It's like turkey bacon. And if I can plug my own book again, I've got tons of details on how to make your own bacon from scratch.

And you can do it even living in the suburbs. I started making my own. Is it just take pig, cut pig? Well, it does. Yeah. I mean, the ingredients say, you know, you need, you know, salt, salt, man. And you need pig. And, you know, for need, you know, salt, salt, man. And you need, and you need pig and, you know, for pig, see page 458. But you can practice a bunch of the stuff living in the

suburbs. You can buy a whole pork belly from the butcher and do it at home. Do you think people who live in cities should escape the cities right now? You know, so one of the things I've got in the intro chapter is, you know, here's a three-year, here's a one-year plan. You're ready to move. What do you need to do? Here's a three-year plan. And one of the things I have got in the intro chapter is, you know, here's a one-year plan. You're ready to move. What do you need to do? Here's a three-year plan. And one of the things I have is a 10-year plan for young adults because I've had a lot of, you know, friends on Twitter who are 22 or 26 ask me. And, you know, I've said on the 10-year plan, don't move right this second. You know, the cities aren't about to collapse tomorrow.

What you need to do is learn a skill. You need to learn some stuff. And you need to find your mate. It's a lot easier to meet people in the city than it is out in the middle of nowhere. So you don't think – I think people should be getting away from cities immediately. Okay. Well, that's going to help me sell the book. So I agree, Tim.

I've never heard an idea that's so right. You look at how the law is being enforced. It's been referred to. I know Mike Cernovich tweeted about this. I think maybe Michael Maus may have mentioned it, anarcho-tyranny. Absolutely.

And those are two good followers. I follow both those guys as well. For those that aren't familiar, anarcho-tyranny is basically that the government doesn't enforce the crimes and petty things that are negatively impacting

your life, you're being robbed, but they do enforce anything that goes against them in any way or the powerful elites. Yeah. So absolutely.

Arson during riots. Well, that's just a bit of vibrant democracy, you know, that went, you know, two percent too far. But on the other hand, you know, some white collar guy has a pistol that, you know, isn't known to the attorney general to have all 17 of the checkpoints. And, you know, he gets dragged through the system and he's lucky if he, you know, gets off with that jail time after he spent $100,000 on legal fees. I see this. I see this as being, being you know for the most part where we are

i mentioned that you know joe biden clearly isn't speaking to half the country and that's a failure on his part i mean you look at what uh jen sackey issued one of the most shocking statements when she said that they were working with facebook oh my god that was horrifying when when the biden administration is now admitting that they're working with the DNC to go to phone carriers to censor private text messages, it is it is beyond it is an anarcho tyranny. Yeah, there are riots in the streets that the crime is skyrocketing. The police are being defunded. Yet the government is coming after private citizens to an extreme degree. There was a great quote.

I think it was from PJ Rourke. I read it 10 or 20 years ago, which is that PETA goes after women wearing fur coats and not bikers wearing leather jackets. Part of the explanation behind a narco tyranny. I mentioned earlier that I studied Roman history. And one thing in the later days of the empire, the Roman political elite wanted triumphs, which was a big parade through downtown Rome because it looked great and you'd have treasure. And the problem is that to conquer a tough foreign tribe is hard, and there's not many of them. They're far away. So at some point, the Roman political elites started waging war against allies and their own provinces

because it was a way to kill a bunch of people and take some treasure. And so this ties into a narco tyranny who's easier to prosecute sort of, you know, some, uh, you know, high ranking'm like listen you know i'm not trying to be a a doomsayer i am not absolutely predicting what will happen i'm only simply asking if everything we've seen over the past 10 years has been escalating do you think it is more likely that the escalation will continue or that right now the escalation will stop and things will improve right that's a great way to frame it but But that's, so I'm not saying, I mean, quite literally, tomorrow Joe Biden could come out and say, I want to issue a heartfelt, sincere apology to all of Trump's supporters for everything that's happened in this country,

and I want to know that I am here for you, and I'm going to be sitting down. And, you know, he could say something, he won't. Right, right. What does he say? He says the Republicans' voting bills is the greatest threat since the Civil War. No one, no one is backing down. No one will stop. This gets into the rhetoric where Nazi and racist are the ultimate trump cards.

You know, the Civil War. So this is implicitly putting anyone who doesn't agree with, you know, sort of every policy of the Democratic Party is obviously on the side of bringing back slavery. Civil War. He's saying it at a time when when we have this poll coming out, whether the poll is accurate or not. And the sentiment is rising for for a breakup of this country i can only say that a president who would say that is encouraging and he's an accelerationist yep he wants it to happen now i can say this over and over again i do not want anything bad to happen to this country and i think the divide is horrifying because of what will happen with our enemies the last thing i want

is for china to take taiwan now now no for computers and cars, and China controls that. They gain more control in all of these other regions as they are expanding with the Belt and Road Initiative. We need a strong United America. Joe Biden, I think, is doing everything to rip it apart. You know, there was an essay I read once, I think it was by this guy Clark Hatt on Status 451 blog, talking about the machinery of state and state machines. And the idea is that there are things that can roll forward

but that can't roll back the same way. And you can see it in mechanical engineering with worm gears and everything. And I'm not sure what the output of this is. I mean, accelerationism and the collapse of the United States sounds terrible, but if we were in the kind of system where we could back up, we would have already backed up. So I don't know how we get out of this.

I've talked to so many people, and I mention this frequently, particularly in the past week or so with this poll that came out, talk of the city's trap, the MIT study that came out. You saw that MIT thing? I did not. 1972, MIT said, was it MIT? It was MIT, right? I don't know.

It was tied into the coral of waves. They said by 2040, society will collapse due to these factors and everything like that. I'm like, I'm looking at all these things. I'm looking at a vice president who's saying this is the biggest threat since the Civil War. And he said the Confederates never made it to the Capitol. And I'm like, wow, dude, you're saying these Trump supporters, there were hundreds of thousands of people who didn't go in the Capitol. You're likening Trump's base to the Confederates. How could that not be accelerationism?

But I see this. I've seen so many people over the past several years tell me I was wrong or crazy to think that we're headed towards some kind of civil conflict. And I'm like, bro, we're in it. Yeah. We are in it. And, you know, how could we have come to this point? I had a conversation recently with someone who was like, no, no, everything's going to be fine. It's going to calm down.

We're all going to go back to normal. And I'm like, why? Because Trump's going to decide not to run? Because Trump's going to calm down. We're all going to go back to normal. And I'm like, why? Because Trump's going to decide not to run? Because Trump's going to just disappear overnight? Or do you think 2022, Trump's going to be doing the circuit, promoting people in the midterms? The media is going to find their path towards making money again. And so that doesn't matter what's true or not. They're going to go, they're absolutely insane, rile people up to an extreme degree. And then we're going to have three years of that. And you think it's going to be all fine? You know, I think, so I'm agreeing with your overall thesis. But I think even if Trump dropped dead from a heart attack tomorrow, the two tribes have

been led to hate each other so much. And this is, you know, fuel. The media loves it. The Democrats love it. And because it gets excitement, it gets people out to the polls, it gets donations. The New York Times loves it. I mean, the New York Times has been hugely more profitable over the last few years than it ever was before. And so the ACLU is the perfect example. Oh, God, you know, they used to be wonderful. I mean, I lean more to the right than to the left,

but I always loved the ACLU as man, they stick by their principles. And even I who disagree with most of the members of it on free speech, they rock. But what happened was they made a bunch of money when they challenged Donald Trump's moratorium on travel from the seven countries. And then they got a bunch of flack over Charlottesville. And so they immediately said money is more important than values. Yep. And we've seen it with many different organizations. The universities.

I mean, there used to be the concept of academic freedom where, okay, this one professor with his crazy ideas disagrees with all decent society. But we respect free speech and free inquiry so much that we will support him in this. And, you know, that was a useful tool until the left could entirely finish their long march through the institutions. But now that they've got it, there's no academic freedom at all. If you want to say anything that departs from the party line by 2%, you can get fired. I look at these nonprofits and I look at the media and I'm just like, I don't think there's a point at which the two different versions of reality

ever meet. So I love calling this organization freepress.net. You ever hear of them? Yeah. What do you think they're supposed to be representing? From the title? I would think the free press. Now, would you be surprised to find out they were advocating censorship? I would not be surprised. That's exactly what they've been doing.

It's 1984, man. Yep. Ministry of truth. They were heavily against Alex Jones saying he must be censored and banned and removed. And I knew people there. And I hit him up and I was like, what are you doing? And they were like, this is important. He spreads lies.

And I'm like, you're the free press. Of course you're going to defend people who say bad things. You have to. So there's this current push right now to get rid of misinformation. And I'm reading a book. I was reading it on the airplane about the Soviets, how they almost invented the Internet. And they had a couple of networking attempts in the 50s, 60s, 70s. And they had the whole concept of cybernetics, which came from the U.S.

And then the Soviets were playing with it. And there was one part of cybernetics and information theory and Claude Shannon and everything that immediately had resonance with them, and that was static or noise in the system because it fit into their ideology. You could talk about information on the one hand and noise on the other. And that was chilling to read this in the book about the Soviet Internet attempts of the 1970s because we're hearing it every day with, oh, of course we have free speech, but not for misinformation. And with, oh, of course we have free speech, but not for misinformation.

And like, oh, man. And you see what was it NPR said that the truth with not proper context is misinformation. Wonderful. So what's proper context? Right. Framing. Yep. So when the Guardian comes out with an article that says the Kremlin seems to have compromise

on Trump or according to a document, and then all of these people in the establishment left just read the headline and don't actually read the story. They believe that we have the proof that Trump is compromised. Then you read the actual story. What do they say? It's highly unusual, suspect. The Kremlin denies it. Trump denies it.

And we haven't confirmed any of the documents, but experts think it may be real. Okay. So none of it's confirmed. Why did you publish it? But if you read nothing but the headline, there you go. It's proof. You know, Snopes.com is amazing these days because we'll have a politician say, you know, the sun rises in the east and, you know, then Snopes will say, you know, this is absolutely

false without more context because actually the earth is rotating and the sun stands still. Oh, man. Well, the way I always describe it to people is that what they'll do is there'll be a video of Donald Trump doing a backflip off of a balcony and landing perfectly in a superhero pose. Everyone will share the video and it'll go viral. It'll get 10 million views and every conservative will say, wow, this Trump is spry for a 70-year-old man. And then Snopes will say, did Donald Trump do a perfect backflip off of a balcony and land in a superhero pose on Sunday? Right. And then they'll say false.

Then it'll give you a bunch of exposition garbage. And like on Saturday, you know, the 15th, Donald Trump was giving a speech. Trump, a known liar. Exactly. Without evidence, had made these claims. And finally, at the bottom, after five, six hundred words, it'll say, while Trump did do a perfect backflip and he did land in a superhero pose, it was on Monday at midnight, which is not Sunday. Right, right, which in Eastern time zone is not Sunday. Yeah.

Exactly. That's the game they play. I've been thinking about how we were talking earlier about how it's not a linear. We're talking about the accelerationism, essentially, and it's not linear. It's kind of like a J curve, which makes me think of that it's the beginning of an amplification wave that may come back down. So maybe it's not going. It's kind of like a J curve, which makes me think of that it's the beginning of an amplification wave. They may come back down. So maybe it's not going to keep going.

Every exponential curve is an S curve once you get to the end of it. And so what causes it to amplify greater is coherent interference. We've got all this fake news saying the same stuff, creating this amplification wave, if we create some sort of decoherent interference, maybe we can reduce the amplification and slow the acceleration. It seems plausible. You know, I tend to, I've gotten sort of apolitical or post-political or something over the last couple of years, not because I don't think politics matters. You know, this is fascinating stuff and I love to sit here and analyze it.

And I love to, you know, sort of go back and read old books and see what, you know, correlations we can get. But I think these systems are huger. And by systems, I mean sort of, you know, I'm pro free market, but capitalism at this point is this massive, you know, sort of headless monster with 7 billion people in it. And, you know, capitalism is going to do what it's going to do. It's like evolution. You, you know. You get perfect sharks. You may not want a shark, but it doesn't matter. And you get the perfect Facebook. You get the perfect et cetera.

And you get the perfect Democratic Party. And you get the perfect Republican Party. It's only a matter of time. You get the perfect movies. Movies have whittled down to the lowest common denominator of giant robots blowing stuff up. It used to be like Groundhog Day. It's going to be perfect. I saw it. My response to this is used to be like Groundhog Day. It's going to be perfect. I saw it.

My response to this is mostly to just pull back and disconnect. I've got my friends. I've got good old books that I read. I think this is the decoherent interference. Talking about things that aren't in that narrative is creating a decoherence, which is reducing the amplification. Yeah. Well, let's take super chats and see what the audience has to say.

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Let's see what we got. All right. I don't think I can read your name, Anna. We'll just say Anna. No one cares about France or Australia. American freedom is dying. Everything else is irrelevant. Well, you need to understand that France and Australia could serve as a canary in the coal mine. France is a nation that is very rebellious, to say the least. And they're also having extremely draconian laws. Australia is, you know, a British Commonwealth, not too dissimilar from the United States in certain ways,

but they don't have a Bill of Rights. So we can thank our lucky stars when we see these countries and the bad things that happen. Ireland passed a vaccine passport stuff recently. So the Bill of Rights, thank your lucky stars, but I don't know how much longer

it's going to keep protecting us. All right, let's see. Oh, what's this? David Quesada says tony hawk came out of retirement and you're not a real skater if you don't talk about it well um good for tony he is one of the best skateboarders ever simply by well he's verse vert skating for sure his skating street was always funny because he's like a he's a vert skater guy but uh he's a legend i mean he invented so much of skateboarding however i think at his current age

i don't see him competing with like gee curry who just did a 1080 for the first time in a competition 12 year old kid 12 tony hawk's twitter game is pretty good i like him tony hawk's twitter game consists of him not being recognized by people i wonder what tony hawk is doing right now this right right i do love it where they're like hey your name's tony he's like yep like like that skateboarder Tony Hawk. He's like, that's right. I love those tweets. They're hilarious.

Absolutely. He discovered that he's famous, but no one knows what he looks like. No, some people do. All right, Hayden says, Travis, great to have you. I just bought 40 acres of mountain forest land, and I'm realizing I will need to clear dozens of 40-foot trees to build and have a garden. Awesome. Do you have advice for starting with totally raw land 20 miles from town?

Now, real quick, I also have about an acre with tons of trees on it, and your advice on how to deal with it. You know, I don't want to sound too much like a shill, but I've got an entire chapter on exactly that. You start with a forest and you want pasture there. What are the, like, 17 steps? And the short version is you're going to log those trees. You're probably going to have an excavator come in to pull out the stumps. Then you're going to do a soil test. You're going to amend to the soil as necessary. And there's a lot more, but

it's absolutely doable. But that's not doable by welfare. I mean, for the most part, we're talking about modern technology in a functioning economy to make this happen. So, you know, the way that this was classically done in colonial America is that you would debark the trees and then they would die and then you could farm in between them. And you could even log as you got time. People tend to log in the winter. That's when I do my logging because it's a lot easier to skid the logs out

to my firewood pile using my tractor on top of snow because it sort of lubricates and it also protects the pasture. And it's easier to see, right? Yeah, yeah. And you don't have to deal with all of the leaves on the trees. So you can do this all at once by throwing a lot of money at it, or you can make it a 10-year project. And there's tons of good firewood there.

There's a rule of thumb that you can pull one quart of firewood out of one acre of forest per year sustainably forever. And so there's that. But also if you want to log it all at once, there's a huge amount of firewood there. You can also call in a logger. He might do it for you, but he might want two thirds or three quarters of the wood. And that's all covered. It's a huge topic and it's fascinating. I love talking about forestry and logging and I love doing it. Cool. Cool. JM says, Hey, Ian, I was just thinking about the time I was in a drug induced coma. I'm pretty sure I saw interdimensional beings.

What do you think? Totally possible. You ever take psychedelics? I have been fascinated. I never have. But, man, I'd like to meet the machine elves someday. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Rola Koala says, down with communism. We as a nation need less screen time and more community. Service guarantees citizenship. Oh, Ian, down with the Fed. We need more community. You guarantees citizenship. Oh, Ian, down with the Fed. We need more community. You know, Jon Stewart said it. And the reason I cite Jon Stewart is because that should be a message to the left.

Come on, you like this guy, right? Well, he was like, he actually said we need a draft of some sort. I've got a problem with that. You know, I think that people confuse sort of good things that come from terrible things with an overall benefit from it. So, you know, you get drafted for a very good cause, which is, you know, fascism is terrible and putting people in death camps is terrible. And then you make a lot of, you know, lifelong buddies and whatever. But right now, most of the wars we're fighting are absolutely idiotic.

And it's always people who wouldn't be subject to the draft who think that other people need to be drafted. I don't believe in slavery. He wasn't saying military draft. He was saying some kind of community like... I don't want to be drafted to be a social worker and I wouldn't want anyone else to be drafted for it either. I thought about this. The challenge is that you end up

with a bunch of entitled people and there's a balance. It's not so simple, I guess. The libertarian aspect of it is leave me alone, let me do my thing, which is where up with a bunch of entitled people and there's a balance it's not so simple i guess um the the libertarian aspect of it is leave me alone let me do my thing which is where i usually land on you know when it comes to the dividing line but i also recognize that without a shared community space is what i was saying i do agree with this yeah if people are online and like you know i'm talking only to you know more libertarian types but then my neighbors aren't the socialists conflicts are brewing because we live next to each other. So there's got to be some kind

of culture. I do agree that shared culture is good. I also think that shared experiences coming out of voluntary behavior are much better. And one final thing on this idea of some sort of civil draft. Think about all of the programs and the way they're actually run. No matter how great the theory is, the schools,

the DMV, think about how it's actually implemented. And so if we had some sort of social draft, you know that the children of the rich and wealthy would end up being drafted to work in policy think tanks in D.C. with wonderful apartments. And you know that the children of coal miners would be picking up garbage on the side of the road. Captain says, I have a cabin in northern AZ and want to homestead there permanently, but I work in IT and need internet. I have been on the Starlink waiting list for over a year now.

I believe the Starlink is moving from the east coast towards the west coast. I could be wrong. It's just because I know, I met somebody who has got a New York Starlink and they said that this area is going to get it near the late August, late 2021, they said.

So I think they're activating satellite groups, you know, moving in a direction. But I don't know for sure. I will tell you Starlink's amazing. Absolutely. When it activates, it works within a 500-mile radius. So my understanding is they want you to keep it in the same place, but as long as you're within that range. So we could drive like, you know, half an hour up the top of a mountain.

That's all sort of policy because the satellites are continuously orbiting paths, so you're getting handed off time and again. I think that Starlink is accelerating in its deployment, so I think wait a little bit longer, but that's great. All right. Sat says, if you ever wondered why there's

dumb failure politicians in office it's because these people are highly sought after for government because they will say or do whatever they're told no matter how absurd yeah this gets back to evolution i mean you know they are uh we breed politicians according to selection criteria and the selection criteria is electability and uh you know when everyone has the franchise uh that means that the median voter is pretty dumb and pretty uninformed. All right. Let's see. Hulk Mash says, hey, guys.

Excuse me. First of all, this is my favorite podcast out there. Oh, thank you very much. Also, I use clips of the show for my TikTok. And one of the videos got over a million views. If you ever want to back up TikTok, it's all yours. Oh, wow. Cool.

Our TikTok got briefly taken down. No idea why. They just deleted all the videos. And I laughed. I'm like. Oh, wow. Cool. Our TikTok got briefly taken down. No idea why. They just deleted all the videos. And I laughed. I'm like, whatever, man. And then I tweeted about it. And then it popped right back up. But I'm proud to say that TimCast.com, we are officially self-sustainable.

There was a big fear for a while that we're beholden to all these different platforms. And then if we got banned, oh,, it's like, we can't work. What do we do? So I was like, we got to start a website. We started a website and now the new website is up. We've got a news crew. Everything that's currently happening with our news writers and our new show

and our current level is sustainable just off of the website alone. That's amazing. So the YouTube, all of the stuff we're doing out is, is like our path towards rapid expansion. So a daily wire can sit there and get smear pieces from NPR because they're expanding so rapidly. Don't worry, Daily Wire.

We're coming for you. We're going to be expanding. No, much congratulations on the success of Daily Wire. I can't wait for our NPR smear piece. Yeah, I know. It's going to be great. Fun. You'll know you've made it.

We were just talking with a particular individual about doing field reporting in journalism. I'll refrain from saying who i guess but people might might already know and uh we're going to be launching a bunch of different shows like cultural shows so um i'm extremely uh excited for this tiktok can ban us i don't even care anymore i'm just like whatever dude yeah eric cecil says kyle kashev is david hogg driving the speed limit okay i'm not i think there needs more to meet more context there to understand what Kyle did. But I think – I've been saying this for a long time. The right needs to be advocating for guaranteed gun access.

I'm a big fan of the idea that universal gun ownership, like the government should have to pay for people to have a gun. Yes. Everybody. Yeah, and the argument is so long as this left says that healthcare is a human right and that the government should provide everyone with healthcare,

I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hold on. I'm down. I'm down. But I think then everybody should have to get a gun from the government. You know, the right has been sort of overly libertarian

in a certain way where the left uses the machinery of the state to indoctrinate and sort of set the playing field. And I think that one thing that Trump has started and that other Republicans are seeing is, hey, if we manage to grab the reins of power for two or four or six years, we shouldn't just, you know, pause the expansion of the state and pause the success of the culture war from one side. We can do something with it. And it's going to be really interesting to see that play out.

You know what's crazy is that there are reigns of power at all. I mean, maybe is that the inevitable superstructure of the universe? I think it is. That there are reigns of power? Do there have to be? Meritocracy exists. Whether the communists want to believe it or not, it is a real thing. So look, during Occupy Wall Street, they kept saying, we have no leaders.

And I was like, they're standing right there. I can see them. They're the ones talking to the camera. Well, but they're not no leaders. And I was like, they're standing right there. I can see them. They're the ones talking to the camera. Well, but they're not really leaders. Yes, but whatever they say, you do. You can say they're not formally leaders, but they're clearly the ones who control all the money, who determine when you march, who determine when the meetings happen, and shut down people they don't want to speak.

I guess the problem of meritocracy being real is who holds the reins of power isn't necessarily the one with the merit. Well, no, no. I disagree to a certain extent. I mean, certainly we can argue that a great leader who's very smart and capable would be the one with the true merit, but in terms of wielding power is the person capable of wielding it. So it's kind of like you said, there's a giant rock. Who can lift the giant rock? The person capable of picking it up and carrying it. Or who gets there first. Well, no, not really. Or who deceives all the others about where the rock is well there's look look could could could you uh if if you were um if there's a giant rock you know let's say let's

let's the atlas stone we have what does that weigh 160 you guys have you have an atlas stone that's awesome we do yeah well someone brought it for us if if i, if The Rock, Dwayne Johnson, gave you a 10-minute head start, do you think you'd be able to lift the Atlas Stone before him? No. He'd show up, push you out, step aside, sir, and then he'd pick it up very easily. There are some people that are built to carry rocks. There are some people who are brutal. Is that how leadership works, too?

When you look at, like, Occupy Wall Street, there was a power vacuum. There was a bunch of people there. There was a bunch of interest in funding it. And there was a vacuum in who controlled it until someone said, I will. And everyone went, okay. And then that person took it by saying they wanted it. There's an interesting thing here that whoever takes it, that's sort of the metric that is being tested for. Whoever successfully pulls the sword out of the stone or whoever successfully rises to the front of the crowded Occupy. And the mistake the founders make was thinking that

whoever could win elections was the best leader or most appealed to the populace. And in a sense, they're right. It most appealed to the populace. But it's a simple test. There's some rule of thumb, and I forget what it is, but whenever you have a metric that's being tested in an organization or in a industrial process, it works for a minute.

And then pretty soon it gets subverted because people start optimizing for the test and not for the true underlying thing, which you were approximating with the test. And I think that's true of democracy. All right. Atari Kid says slavery in the British Empire ended in 1833, but slavery in England ceased after the Norman Conquest. The Somerset case of 1772 ruled that slavery was so odious that nothing can be suffered to support it but positive law. Interesting. I've got one piece of tangential thing there, which is I touch on the Norman Conquest in my homesteading books in the context of how deeds work for tractors. Huh. Interesting. JR says you can burn plant matter to make potassium chloride. It's a salt substitute. You can also harvest it from animal blood. Oh, really?

Whoa. Yeah, I guess they got to have salt in them. So I guess you can get salt from deer blood, huh? True. I make black pudding from pig blood, and it's salty. Oh, blood pudding. Is that blood pudding? Yeah, it's good.

Yeah, I love blood pudding. The first time I had it was on is in the uk you get like a black disc yep yep and then i'm like what's that and they're like blood pudding i'm like cool i know a lot of people who hate it but i'm like food's food man that's decent yeah yeah yeah all right seb says hi from sweden first time catching the show live for obvious reasons been subbed since the van videos wow that was like the first video yeah Yeah. Excellent, man. Wrong time. What up, dude? All right. Let's see. Scary Perry says officially closed on our Florida home today. Here's 10 bucks to celebrate.

I can't wait to be living there. Goodbye, Seattle. Oh, talk about an epic move. From Seattle to Florida. Hey. Now, my only issue with Florida is the weather. Yes. But the governance is not bad.

That's my only reason issue with Texas. I'd but the governance it's not bad and that's my only reason uh issue with texas i'd be there if it weren't for the heat oh man luke keeps trying to get us to go to new hampshire and even even before we came out here he was like new hampshire is way better and i was like dude i don't want to be in new hampshire it's expensive there you know there's not as much land it's way more expensive i'm like i'll be in the middle of nowhere in the middle of mountains plus like you know new hampshire's surrounded by all these blue areas there is that yeah very very heavily just every direction but you've got water access yep yep so you got a river if the country partitions in new hampshire uh is taken over by massachusetts then i'll be a

refugee all right we got a nice big super chat from trDSCFJC about not liking Black Rifle Coffee Company. YouTube's not going to allow me to read that super chat. Suffice it to say, they are very upset with Black Rifle Coffee. As am I. Saying that they don't support patriots who defend themselves against bad child abusers, felons, and domestic abusers. They say, free Kyle, salty army is legion, the salt must flow and re. Yeah, I saw a lot of bad stuff about Black Rifle. Yeah.

Because they're basically lumping in, like, the majority of the right in with the most extreme elements. Absolutely. I was tweeting about, even earlier, a month or so ago, I saw that I think their CEO had donated to a pro-gun control politician who said no one needs an AR-15. So, you know, Black Rifle is an interesting marketing

scheme, but I'm not sending them my money. Well, they were able to get a bunch of money from a lot of conservatives. Alright, let's see. Anime Freak says, you guys mentioned a few videos back, text censorship. I work in one of the highest departments you can work in within one of the major carriers, and I can say

if a law was made, we likely wouldn't bet an eye implementing it. Interesting. Well, the intention of the government carriers. And I can say if a law was made, we likely wouldn't bet an eye implementing it. Interesting. Well, the intention of the government is very scary. John Clapperton says no native of India or any natural born subject

of his majesty shall be shall be disabled from holding any place, office or employment for any reason, employment by reason of his religion, place of birth, descent or color, charter of the East India Company.

Interesting. Very interesting. All right. Let's see. I see a nice little super chat defending Alex Jones. Okay. All right. Let's see what we got.

People making fun of China. Yeah, absolutely. All right. L. Lissari. I've been doing research on helpful weeds. For example, large-leafed plantain draws out venom and can be used as a flower substitute, just to name two uses. It'll leave you speechless, like the book by Michael Knowles that's out now.

That one got me. That genuinely got me. Yeah, normally I'm catching the speechless ones, but that one got me. Yeah, in terms of like wheat flour, right? It's got gluten in it. Is there anything else that you could use that's like comparable? You know, there are other flours. I know that people use

acorn flour. I think that the gluten in wheat flour is hard to replace. And I know that rye, etc. just doesn't rise in the same way because you don't get the intermixed gluten. Yeah. All right, let's see. Will Jones says, Timmy is controlled opposition. Who else can guarantee a business success? Well played, comrade. Well played. We like reading our criticism here at Tim Kess Direl for sure. stand my ground yeah i hear that you know we have we have conversations about places like syria where

so many people refuse to stay and fight and they fled and i actually interviewed two young men who refused to fight and fled and so i mean you can you blame them you know be forced to fight for for this this national army and have your rights checked away and just be cannon fodder or and or leave and watch your your home country fall apart not easy man all right garhant says travis with you writing for dragon 117 are you buying the new dnd strixhaven book if so are you excited to get your bestie frenemy and who's your prom date for dnd prom i am our rolf lamau ralolf Lamau at Hasbro. They are Kathleen Kennedy and D&D for Wokeness. Do you play D&D?

I did play D&D. There's some backstory there. I'm a writer and my first published thing was when I was 13 years old and sent an article into Dragon Magazine. That was published in Dragon Issue 117. And about 20 years later, I saw in passing that TSR, which had been bought by Wizards of the Coast,

which had been bought by Hasbro, was republishing all of the old articles. And I happened to remember reading my contract from start to finish, and the contract said that I was selling first serial rights, which meant that if they ever wanted to republish it, they had to pay me. So I sent a letter to Hasbro and said, I'm thrilled to hear about this CD-ROM. Pay me. And Hasbro never responded to the letter. They republished the CD-ROM, and I sued Hasbro and Small Claims Court for $2,000 because that was the most I could sue for.

And Hasbro didn't show, and I got $2,000. So that's how, as a 13-year-old, I earned $2,100. I just had to wait 20 years to get most of it. Creativity pays. Well then. And with regards to TTRPGs, I live in the middle of nowhere. I try to play occasionally online with some friends.

I hope to do more of that. I do buy books. It's fun to just see what's going on. And the crazy insanity SJW stuff in D&D, there's a new... There was some wheelchair thing, because when people do escapism, what they really want to

think about is being disabled. And then the new thing that was announced a day or so ago was some sort of new woke Harry Potter bisexual elves in college campaign setting for D&D. And I'm just going to quote the meme of the Chinese guy. It's also tiresome. Yes. Wow. All right. Scott McAnthon says insurance sales is necessary. Insuring your home and auto is easy. Mostly can be done through a computer and automated process. Large complex commercial

industry is requiring insurance need a human to underwrite and risk assess 100 agree and i i accept that with the and i will issue the correction what i meant to say is there are a lot of people that used to just do like auto you'd walk in and be like i want to do auto and there are still places that do this they're storefronts and a guy sitting behind a desk waiting for you yeah and to me i see that i'm like that's crazy of course i think they're mostly going away yeah but like that you know, there's still video stores. Actually, they need them in places with bad internet. Yeah, video stores still exist. I hear that car salesmen are on their way out.

You know, Tesla will send the car to your house directly. You go online, you order it online. A lot of companies will do that. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that is basically just rent-seeking. Like maybe at some point it started out, but rent-seeking is an economic term, and not rent as a reasonable thing, where you're trading money for use of land, but rent where someone just interjects themselves in a transaction

and peels their slice off the top, and there's no way to get around it. Like a banker. All right, Tim Decker says, March 9th for the win. Why, that's my birthday. Is it your birthday? 16-year, 3M mile trucker here.

The left has made trucking into cities a loss later with fuel costs and regulations. Drivers already refuse loads to the coasts. Consider that. Yeah, man. You know what I think is happening? You know, we were at an ice cream stand the other day, and there was a huge line, and everyone's buying ice cream. And I thought to myself, how many of these people got jobs?

You know, because a lot of people are getting unemployment. So what does that mean? They're being given money, and then they're extracting resources from the system without replacing it. Basically, it's kind of like – I was thinking – we have a slushie machine downstairs. And when it's full, it's full of slushie, but you've got to keep putting slushie in. Eventually, the slushie runs out. Well, they're printing slushie. What happens?

No, no, they're not. They're not. What they're printing is access to pull the slushie lever. And when you do, when we go to clean the slushy machine, we have to empty it. So we hold the thing open and drain what's left of the slushy and let it all pour out. And that's what feels like it's happening. It's their emptying thing, the great reset. The economy and everything is being stripped of resources very slowly. And then eventually it gets reset, filled with hot water and cleaning solution and scrubbed out,

and then something else is put inside. I'm going to go with inflation, or at least argue for it a bit. And one interesting thing is I wrote the first draft of this book about three years ago, and I've been working on it very slowly. And then with COVID, I thought now's the time, let me turbo through it and get it done. And so I ended up going through the parts that I'd already written. I ended up checking prices where I said, this rototiller to mount on your tractor is $2,000. And I went back to tractor supply, and's $2,500. And, you know, this chicken fencing is $12. And I, you know, go to lowes.com and it's $19. There has been a lot of inflation. And I used to laugh at these nut job conspiracists who were saying they're stealth inflation. It's not showing up

in the figures, but, uh, you know, I don't know, man, I stumbled into it myself. I think it's real. All right. Let's do a, let's get a, man. I stumbled into it myself. I think it's real. All right. Let's do, let's get a couple more in as many as we can. All right. Let's see. Lone Star Carper says, Tim, I gave you a super chat. Maybe your first when you played a Trump video game on this channel. Great guest tonight.

Love and enjoy the show nightly. Oh, there was a fighting game that was made in the, I wonder if that would get you banned at this point. It was a fighting game where it was called like Andrewrew yang for president or something and it was it was actually really fun and really i was surprised at how offensive it was because uh elizabeth warren was wearing native american gear and she would make stereotypical like an offensive you know sounds sounds and stuff and she and her super move was to like summon a giant bowl or something and so it was really just like but i guess it was making fun of her for being racist so it's okay whatever and then you know donald trump throws money as his special move or whatever it was it was actually a really fun fun game yeah

all right let's see uh where are we at chelsea nelson says my husband is a composer arranger and is interested in working with you he's emailed you a few times at jobs at timcast.com. DerekNelson.com. Thanks. I will take a look. We may have someone, though. We may.

We may. We'll see. Jack of Blades says, play D&D with me, you cowards. What's a good way to get in touch with you for your podcast so I can introduce you to the woke psychic brain rat collective imprisoned by vice a la Planescape? I suppose pitches at timcast.com. Yeah, so one of the shows we'reisoned by Vice a la Planescape. I suppose pitches at TimCast.com. Yeah, so one of the shows we're going to do is a weekly D&D series. And we want to do a campaign that's based around modern political ideas, but implemented through D&D.

Very cool. And then just see how people play and how they try and resolve some of these situations. I'll play a bunch of Neverwinter Nights today to get re-familiarized with 3.5. 3.5? Yeah, the rule-familiarized with 3.5. 3.5? Yeah, the rule set. D&D 3.5. One writing project I want to do someday is write a RPG based on the Aristillus science fiction novels.

So I've got infinite writing projects for the next 10 or 20 years. What's the Aristillus? The science fiction novels that I wrote that I was talking about earlier. Oh, yeah, dude. Oh, what's this? Firepower Fantasy says,

Hey, Tim, I mainly wanted a super chat to support your content, but I also have to ask, do any of y'all have some recommended reading? You know, I would recommend you check out Escape the City in volumes one and two. I was going to say, we should recommend these. Yeah, Travis, literally his books. Actually, I'm really excited that you have these.

Those are cool. You're going to give us those books, right? Absolutely. Because we definitely need them. Tim, I will really excited that you have these. Those are cool. You're going to give us those books, right? Absolutely. That's epic, dude. Because we definitely need them. Tim, I will not only give you a set of these books, I will give you a set of wool socks from my sheep. That's cool. Let me see this.

These are literally from your sheep? Yeah. Like you sheared it and knitted the wool? Literally. It's incredible. I outsourced the knitting. Oh, you outsourced the knitting. Yeah.

You ever see that video of the, what do they call them, Shrek, the sheep? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was just a massive mass. Like, wow, they survive? Mm-hmm. But you have to shear them, right? Otherwise they go. So most sheep, yes.

We have a more primitive breed of sheep. And actually, there's pictures of them. These are Icelandic sheep. Oh, those are. Oh, cool. And so, you know, these pictures are from my farm. I forget the name of this sheep. And, you know, again, this is, you know, 200 feet from my house in one of the pastures

where I keep sheep. I don't even understand, like, looking at this, like, how did this come from a sheep? Right, right. But I know it's where it comes from. Yeah. You know, it starts with my wife opening a stall door in the barn and me wrestling the sheep out. And it ends

up a year and a half later and I'm wearing a set of wool socks myself. You gotta grab their legs. Like, I watch videos of people shearing sheep and it ends up at a year and a half later and I'm wearing a set of wool socks myself. You've got to grab their legs. I watch videos of people shearing sheep and it's pretty intense. You've got to tie their legs up. You don't have to tie them up. There's this wrestling thing that if somebody's feet are off the ground, there's not much they can do.

You flip the sheep onto its butt and that's how we do the shearing. They also get a bunch of vitamins injected, sort of, you know, vitamin paste behind their teeth and they swallow it and they get a shot. And there's a process we go through a couple of times a year. I saw that thing where there was like baby sheep on a conveyor belt. You ever see that? They're like sitting in a slide. I did not. Oh, it was like they were giving shots, like vaccinations. Oh, neat, neat, neat. And so it's

like they're all just sitting there with their feet up and they slide forward and they fall in a thing and then get dropped on the ground, and they run away. Things were a bit more earthy on our farm. I have a couple of times pulled a baby lamb out of its mother. Exciting. Once, when there was a breech birth, I loaded a pregnant ewe with a lamb half coming out of her into the car, because we don't have a truck right now, drove her next town over to a vet. Wow. Yeah, we need a conveyor belt. That sounds better. Exciting. into the car because we don't have a truck right now drove her next town over to a vet so uh yeah we we need a conveyor belt that sounds better in terms of books though i'll shout out to michael

malice's book the anarchist handbook and michael malice's speechless which they're always tricking michael knolls michael knolls the other michael michael malice's anarchist handbook and michael knolls too many michaels and uh what are the books the war Ross, The War on Small Business looks incredible. I still have not read that, but The War on Small Business. And Jack Posobiec's The Antifa. Antifa, yeah. Oh, Antifa book. Yes. Behind the Black Block, yeah.

Dot com. Yeah, yeah. Andy Nose, Unmasked. And is there anybody else we need to shout out? I still haven't read The Creature from Jekyll Island. I hear it's phenomenal if you're interested in the history of the Federal Reserve. Oh, cool. All right.

We'll do a couple more here. Here we got Taylor Ludkey says, third generation almond grower. Tim, take it easy on the almonds are terrible for the environment tweets. Almond prices don't need to be beaten down anymore. Going to have to cancel my TimCast membership if this keeps up.

I don't think I tweeted that. I think I said that almonds consume tons of water. And so the risk is when California's in a big drought or if there's economic problems, almonds are on the chopping block. Which is said, I love almonds. I like kind bars. I got almonds all up in them.

So good. All right, here we go. Deus Flex says, to provide context for Kyle Kashuv, adult actress Brandy Love was kicked out of a TPUSA event by social conservatives. Kyle not only approved,

but went on to disavow libertarians and called small government a fantasy. Yes, this is hilarious that there's actually a battle happening over this. I think maybe we'll get into this in the bonus segment. I don't know if we need to, but I am much more libertarian. I think the conservatives are losing tons of allies over this. I certainly understand what the conservatives are saying. I think adult films, generally bad for people

the way it's kind of gone out of control. But at the same time, small government, man, let people live and let live and you've got to build that coalition and support people. Find out where you agree with people and you need those allies in that great battle. Yeah, Chrissy Mayer just did a podcast, I believe, with Brandy

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mysteries and stuff. But these are legit like investigations into real world phenomena. We're not talking about like some story where a guy claims he went and, you know, his apple pie was actually an alien or something. Like he writes a story about what's happening with these birds that are going missing. And so there's a bunch of stories about crows falling from the sky. These are legitimate stories. And then he's asking the experts, talking to government officials to figure out what's going on. And he did one that was really great, investigating

a death in West Point that he knew about. And it looks like it might be a cover-up. So it's fun stuff. It's fun stuff. It is more like spooky story-esque, but it is real stuff. It's not fiction. It's not speculative.

I am no fan of people being like, I swear there was a ghost, and I'll prove it. I care about people who are skeptical but interested in those mysteries. So check that stuff out. There's a new show coming on that soon. We're going to be working on it in the next couple of weeks to have a full podcast. And you can follow me personally at TimCast. Now, we just shouted out a bunch of your books, but you want to mention your sci-fi books as well.

And your social media too. for Best Libertarian Science Fiction Novel. My second novel was Causes of Separation, the sequel to the first one. And it also won the Prometheus Award the next year. And I think this is the first time that an author won it two years in a row. And I think it's the first time that maybe self-published books won it. And this is a saga set about 50 years from now

about small government people and really kind of a great divorce thing that we've been talking about this whole time. There's this concept of loyalty, voice voice or exit where you disagree with someone, you either act loyal to them and swallow your objections or you speak up in sort of a democratic way or you just leave. My personal preference is just leaving. So this is a novel about that.

It involves lunar colonization. It involves artificial intelligence, anti-gravity, genetically uplifted dogs, and it's all fairly hard science fiction. It's not, you know, The Force and lightsabers and stuff. Fantasy stuff.

Yeah, and, you know, they've got something on the order of 500, four and a half, or five star reviews, so it's decent stuff. And if you like science fiction, please give it a shot. They're big, too.

Yeah, I don't write small books. I like big books, and I cannot lie. Well, if for some reason HBO licenses for a TV show, just make sure you finish the books before... Right. I think my opinions are such that I would never have a major media

deal. I think TimCast is where I belong. Maybe we'll have to do it. You know what I was thinking of doing is taking a room and making the entire room a green screen. Because then you can make movies about anything. Or project green light on the walls all around. That's harder. We could just paint a room green and put lights on. I'm so into this.

Well, Ian, you have a website or something. I do. It's iancrossland.net. And I'm at iancrossland. Travis, thanks for coming, man. I love talking about the systemic transfer or alterations that are potential. Yeah, and PV equals NRT. We'll talk about that

more afterwards. We're talking about inflation and free energy. That's right. Sounds good. And you guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.

We will see you all over at TimCast.com in the members podcast coming up around 11 or so p.m. Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you then. Bye, guys.