Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #341 - GOP Reps REFUSE Masks After Pelosi Orders ARREST For No Masks w/Karol Markowicz

Episode Date: July 30, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join columnist for the New York Post Karol Markowicz to break down recent developments regarding mask mandates, including mask enforcement for politicians and the GOP response to t...hem, Michael Tracey's acute observations about how the media has spun up conservatives as anti-vaccine in a completely fabricated narrative, New York's efforts to eliminate panic over the looming eviction moratorium expiration, NYC's plan to bribe people to get the vaccine, Steak-Umm's shocking Twitter presence and wisdom about impending societal collapse and centrist solutions, and the new NPR policy that will allow journalists to finally be free to be the activists we already know they always have been. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Nancy Pelosi is ordering masks to be worn on the House floor or technically in the Congress building where she has the authority, I guess. There was a funny stunt pulled off by some Republicans where they're like, well, she has no jurisdiction on the Senate side. So they stood in the middle of the building. But yeah, she's saying if you don't wear a mask, you'll be arrested. She has ordered the Capitol Police to arrest staff and visitors for not wearing masks. I guess the instructions when it comes to House members is to notify somebody. Oh, no, they're breaking the rules. Well, the Republicans pushed back and a large group went and refused to wear masks.
Starting point is 00:00:37 But of course, Washington, D.C. is now brought back their mask mandates. Nevada's brought back their mask mandates. And it seems like lockdowns, I think we're going to see lockdowns. Mitch McConnell was alluding to that, saying if we don't get everybody vaccinated, it's going to be a lot like it was last year. And some people are arguing he meant with the deaths and other people are saying he means the lockdowns. And I think he's meaning the lockdowns. But here we go. I mean, you look at right now, one of the biggest challenges is that there is endless
Starting point is 00:01:05 contradictory information coming out from news organizations, from medical experts, and the whole thing is just static at this point. It's all noise. Now, I can't tell you why that is, and I can't tell you what the latest numbers are, because we were talking here before the show, and we're giving conflicting information because the news report's coming out. You could have someone from the CDC say, you know, X equals two yesterday. And then today some writer sees that writes up the new story and it goes live at 11 PM,
Starting point is 00:01:32 right at the same time as a press conference, press conference, another doctor saying X equals three. And now you have two conflicting stories from mainstream news outlets and no one has any idea what's going on. Some people have said the noise is on purpose so that no one can know what's really happening. And then everything just falls apart. So I got to say, Stakehams, you nailed it. There is a massive distrust in this country and society is collapsing. But I'd go a little bit further than you, Stakehams. For those that aren't familiar, Stakehams, the steak brand, for some reason put out this big thread about the American existential crisis we're facing with polarization. And I think we've hit that mark. I think Joe Biden's approval rating
Starting point is 00:02:09 between Democrats and Republicans just shows that no one cares what's true. They right now just, well, I shouldn't say that. They both care about what's true, but both claim that their right and the other side is wrong. Personally, I think one side is more right than the other. It's why independent voters tend to disapprove of Joe Biden because when you actually look at what's going on. But regardless, a lot of people just won't believe anything. So here we go. There's going to be a, I don't know, steakums. If you are right about what's happening, then we're going to get to a point where this problem can never be solved.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Though I think we're probably past that point. So we'll be talking about that stuff. We are being joined by Carol Markowitz, columnist for the New York Post. How's it going? Do you want to introduce yourself real quick? Hi, I'm Carol Markowitz. I'm a columnist at the New York Post. Wow. I also write a bunch of other places
Starting point is 00:02:55 often, so check it out. My Twitter page. Alright. We got Ian. Well, hello, everyone. He's back. Ian's back! I'm back. Yes! I've arrived. Let's roll. Yeah, and I'm here in the corner as well, pushing buttons. Excited to. Well, hello, everyone. He's back. Ian's back. I'm back. I've arrived. Let's roll. Yeah, and I'm here in the corner as well, pushing buttons. Excited to hear what Carol has to say.
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Starting point is 00:03:40 friends if you think we do a good job and want to support our work. Let's read this first story and talk about what's going on here in the Capitol with Nancy Pelosi. The story from TimCast.com. House arrests. Capitol Police instructed to arrest staff and visitors not wearing face masks. A new memo circulated on Capitol Hill this week after the CDC revised its guidelines for vaccinated Americans, instructing police to arrest visitors and staff who refuse to wear face masks in certain areas. Quote, although this applies to the members of Congress, officers should not arrest any member for failure to wear a mask or to comply with the mask mandate. The guidance states any member who fails to comply with a request to wear a mask
Starting point is 00:04:22 should be reported to the House Sergeant at Arms Office. Quote, this is such an overstep of Speaker Pelosi's authority to basically make our Capitol Police arrest staff members and report on members of Congress. Rep. Kat Kamek told Fox News Thursday, it's absolutely unconscionable that this is where we're at. I cannot comply with tyrannical order. Kamek added, this is the people's house, not Nancy Pelosi's house. The speaker of the house does not control the U.S. Capitol Police. Pelosi spokesperson Drew Hamill told Fox News we were unaware of the memo until it was reported
Starting point is 00:04:54 to the press. Quote, if you're a Capitol Police officer, you got orders. If a vaccinated staffer comes across in the House side without a mask, you're ordered to arrest them, but not on the Senate side. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said, this is not the America we know. So we're seeing that Steve Scalise said it was Pelosi directing police to arrest vaccinated people. And I, you know, they're saying she doesn't control the police. They didn't. That's a non-denial denial. Yeah. Saying, oh, but she doesn't control the police. Yes, but you can go to them and say,
Starting point is 00:05:24 I've ordered all masks to be worn. And they said, okay, all right, we'll go arrest them. So there's a big difference between her controlling them and instructing what the rules are. I can't imagine that it's not Pelosi because if it was the Capitol Police making this decision, then the Senate side would be equally as affected, which it's not. I'm just glad Democrats have found some policing to approve of. I would think that they could send in some social workers here to get the masking on. But I don't know why we need to get the police and the sergeant at arms involved. Actually, I mean, that would be a brilliant stunt to be hilarious, right?
Starting point is 00:05:55 Like Matt Gaetz is walking through the House chamber or whatever. And then a social worker comes out and takes a knee and says, Matt, is something wrong? But they don't know how to do funny things like that i'll tell you what this story really freaked me out because it's it's dangerously close to you know it's dangerously close to an old story of a man being caned in congress you know the story no yeah back during the civil war there was a caning there one rap was like beating the other for the game now i don't think nancy plug is gonna come out beat anybody and i'm not suggesting anyone's going to be violent what i'm saying is we're getting dangerously close to the point where someone would apply force against
Starting point is 00:06:31 another member of congress now i i understand it said don't arrest a member of congress what about the staffers yeah so that means you're going to here's what you end up seeing you're going to have marjorie taylor green or Matt Gates or Lauren Boebert not wearing masks saying we refuse and their staffers are going to be forced to went under threat of arrest I imagine many of them are going to say no and so we're getting dangerously close to that point where members of Congress well particularly this would be the Democrats trying to exert force over their political opposition that's that's not going to go anywhere good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:05 And for what? Like for not wearing a piece of cloth over their faces after almost all of them have been vaccinated? Like what are we doing here? I think that's also like they did this big splashy thing with the arrests and it's about something really stupid. Well, I think the issue is no one has any idea what's going on anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:24 This is a lot of people are pointing out that part of demoralization, you guys have seen the Uri Besmanov thing, I'm sure we get we get suggested it like 50 times a day. One of the things that happens is there's mass media that gives out so much contradictory information. No one has any idea what's going on anymore. Yeah. And this is where we've been for a long time. So there's a really great example. I tweeted out. The media hates you and thinks you're stupid because almost every single major outlet said Black Lives Matter does not spread.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Protests were not spreading COVID, but then right-wing protests were. And now you have many on the left who are just like, protests don't spread it, but then just believe that the right-wing ones do. And it's elevated beyond that right now. So one of the things we were bringing up earlier is CDC guidance. We were talking about pregnant women. And I was like, the guidance says that you can get it if you're pregnant. And then you mentioned, I guess, that in April they released guidance on a Friday saying that pregnant women should get the vaccine.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And then they walked it back on the Monday and said pregnant women could get the vaccine. But that's a big change. Right. So all the women that got it Saturday and Sunday who are pregnant are like, what? Like, what did I just do? Should and could are a giant difference. Yeah. Now they say that they recommend it, but that women who may be pregnant, want to be pregnant or are pregnant need to talk to their doctors. Because obviously there's very specific and different things that could affect a person
Starting point is 00:08:42 and everyone's got different health. And I think that applies to everybody to be honest the problem is it's what i was stating earlier when it comes to these masks when it comes to um the lockdown policies all the stuff if you have the cdc like fauci flip-flopping like he was yeah what happens when a journalist writes a story and it's based on the information from friday and not monday right i mean yeah the story from friday stays up it's not like they take it down right it's um on the information from Friday and not Monday. Right. I mean, yeah, the story from Friday stays up. It's not like they take it down, right? But yeah, the things making no sense is, I think, directly responsible for people not getting vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I have an acquaintance, a mom of three. She has teenage kids. You know, I think she'd be kind of a typical person who would go get vaccinated. And she's like, no, because in spring 2020, 2020 when everything stopped making sense i stopped trusting everything that they were saying and so i don't want to get vaccinated and i don't want my kids to get vaccinated and i'm not doing that when when kamala harris and i think even joe biden i'm not sure if i know kamala and a bunch of other people came out and they were yeah and they were they were disparaging the idea of these vaccines and i you know as much as much as these Twitterati lunatics don't want to accept it,
Starting point is 00:09:46 a lot of people saw them say that and said, makes sense to me. Sure. And then see a complete 180 and they're probably going, what? Right. But it was like as if Trump was like in the backyard of the White House, like mixing up, you know, the vaccines by himself. Like, oh, no, we're going to need to see like evidence. Like, no shit.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You're going to need to see evidence. Like, no shit. You're going to need to see evidence. This is such an example of why, in my opinion, you shouldn't politicize medical emergencies. And especially why you shouldn't centralize a response to a medical emergency. Like, putting all power in one guy's hands doesn't make sense. But no one did it on purpose the fauci thing yeah the fauci thing was like it was it was i shouldn't say they don't it on purpose it was that the media wanted their anti-trump narrative or whatever so they were like fauci's the guy we'll we'll we'll we'll champion this guy and then inadvertently the tv
Starting point is 00:10:41 doctor became the uh uh the the be-all, I suppose. And now the crazy thing is the CDC has changed its opinions numerous times. Now what they say is, well, Fauci said, well, it's science. Okay, okay, here's the problem. You mentioned this. The story from Friday stays up. It doesn't go away. So one day I'm reading Facebook.
Starting point is 00:11:05 It's hypothetical. And I scroll across a story, and it's from a day or two ago. And they say, Dr. Fauci says, you got to wear two masks because of the droplets. And then so I read it, and I'm like, oh, okay. And then some other person reads the story from the next day. Fauci says, no, no, there's no reason to wear two masks. This actually happened. Fauci was on a show, and I think it was like MSNBC or maybe CNN, and they asked, like,
Starting point is 00:11:28 isn't it common sense to wear two masks? He's like, yeah, I guess, you know? Yeah. Then the media runs with it. But the next day, a more conservative person sees the story saying, no, no, Fauci says, don't wear it. They then see someone in the wild wearing two masks, and they say, like, why are you wearing two masks? Well, Fauci said we should. Right. No, he didn't. He said we shouldn't.'t like what are you talking about i just read the news yesterday he said we should dude the story came out this morning he said no you're crazy i read it in the
Starting point is 00:11:52 new york times yeah but he's also uniquely bad communicator he's so terrible at this role and so is the cdc head rochelle walensky they're both horrible at conveying a message and sticking to that message they change their mind all the time. I've written about it again and again, where they say one thing one day and another thing another day. And sometimes it is because it's politicized. Sometimes it's because they sat down with the teachers union and had to rewrite the whole messaging on schools.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But sometimes it's just they don't know what they're talking about. I saw Fauci that right after the CDC released guidance that vaccinated people don't have to wear masks and also unvaccinated people didn't have to wear masks outside. Savannah Guthrie was like, but what about my kid? My kid has to wear a mask outside. And Fauci was like, yeah, your kid has to wear a mask outside. But there was nothing in the CDC guidance that said that. He literally like read it to her. And I was like, but he's saying you don't have to wear it.
Starting point is 00:12:43 And they both disagreed that the kid had to wear it and that was it. You know, I noticed about Fauci last year is that he just repeats what the media says. Like I think he doesn't actually know. And a lot of the guidance, it's this cyclical effect that eventually spirals out of control and just bursts. He'd say something like, you know, he had that story where he's like, that famous interview where he says, you don't need to be walking around with a mask because you might stop a droplet or two and then he changes his tune later yeah but his tune changes like a day after the news reports something so the news it's like a study says x y and z and then also need to come out and say it right but that's
Starting point is 00:13:17 also the meat sorry the media never asks him what changed he's always like the science changed but okay what was it what was the study What was the study that changed your mind? If COVID was too small to be contained by the mask when you said that, did COVID grow? Did the masks improve? Actually, the masks got worse. We started wearing T-shirts over our faces. So if we had a competent media, we would get normal answers. But what we have now is just not that.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Did you see the Twitter video? Finally came out the mashup of Fauci. You don't need a mask. You need two masks. Your children do not need to wear masks. You definitely got to put a mask on your child. Like crazy. It's like a minute long of just contradiction, contradiction, contradiction.
Starting point is 00:13:58 He's the guy. This is who we're relying on. Yeah, Joe Rogan's had to listen to Fauci. And I was like, Joe, no. Like, listen to him, but you don't have to believe and do everything he says. No, no, no. I think Aristotle said it's a brilliant man, a sign of a brilliant man is someone that can entertain a thought without believing it. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Yeah, that's a good one. Talk to your doctor. Definitely. Not Fauci. Talk to many doctors. That's the issue. Fauci has said so many contradictory things. I know a lot of people, they email me, and they're like,
Starting point is 00:14:29 Tim, doctors don't know more than most people or whatever. And I'm like, dude, then get a better doctor. Like, find the smart one. Yeah. Okay? Like, I'm not the smartest person in the world. I was – you know, like, there's one of the ingredients in the vaccine. Was it – Propylene glycol?
Starting point is 00:14:43 No, no, no, no, no, no. It's – I don't know. Proethylene. proethylene glycol, I think it's called. I'm like, I know what glycol is a little bit. I've read a bit about it. I'm going to go ask a doctor about these things because I didn't go to school and there are certain medications that have certain adverse effects. You should look them up and you should talk to somebody. And if you've got a dumb doctor, look, you can get a dumb plumber. I've hired bad carpenters. And I'm like, how are these people actually carpenters? You know?
Starting point is 00:15:08 So it's like that's the main issue that we're all dealing with is I think we're – I was thinking about this earlier. It's obviously information overload because that thing we talked about with the CDC changing its and updating its guidelines is everything, literally everything. So there is Ryan Long. You know, Ryan Long, the comedian, he did a really great bit about this where he was like, you know, you can, you can find an article for literally anything claiming something is racist. And he shows like articles that will claim something is or isn't racist at the same time, like back and forth, because there's an article for literally everything. So what happens when someone says something like, I know that X equals one,
Starting point is 00:15:49 and they Google it and they find 5,000 articles saying X equals one, and they're like, look at all this. Then the other guy across the table says, it's X equals two, and then pulls up 5,000 articles. So we're just being driven insane. Yeah, and it shows.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah. I don't know how we escaped from like that. I just looked up whale hunting racists yes yeah so we got a bunch of republicans this is this is interesting here's a story from the hill house gop stages mask mandate protest nearly 40 maskless house republican lawmakers walked across the capitol onto the senate flor Florida protest of the Capitol physicians decision to reinstate a mask mandate in the lower chamber, but not in the upper chamber. How does that make sense? Republicans complained the policy backed by Pelosi and other Democrats is inconsistent, infringes on personal liberty and is based on politics, not science. however the body of the 100 member senate is less than a quarter of the size of the 435 member house
Starting point is 00:16:45 and all but a handful of senators are vaccinated while dozens of house republicans have refused to say whether they got the vaccine okay i heard bill de blasio he said either you get the vaccine or you get a negative covid test okay but people who are vaccinated can still transmit. Right. COVID. So what's the purpose for having non-vaccinated people get tested? It certainly could not be to prevent sick people from coming to work, because the interesting thing about this is that if you are not vaccinated, you're likely to have a more severe reaction. They say you're more likely to be hospitalized. OK, stands to reason you are more likely to actually show symptoms, in which case, you know, you're sick, you'll stay home.
Starting point is 00:17:27 The vaccinated people are less likely to be symptomatic or to go to hospitals or to die. It's a good reason to get the vaccine, to be honest. But again, talk to your doctor. And anyway, the point is, why then are they not requiring tests for the vaccinated? We can tell better if unvaccinated people are sick, not vaccinated people. So this policy of having people get vaccinated and then claiming that's the reason why, you know, some people don't have to wear masks makes literally no sense. You can still transmit with or without. That's actually the argument for why they want the masks, in which case the Senate should have
Starting point is 00:17:59 to wear masks, too. And negative tests are meaningless. Nothing makes sense. None of it makes sense. No. makes sense no but also the whole thing with testing like what if you caught covet on the way over to work like it wouldn't even show up in the test yet right you'd get a negative test you'd be all i don't have coveted walk around you'd breathe on everybody and then you know what would be the point of it are they test it does a test test for antibody response no i think that's a blood test yeah that's the specific antibody test. I think the general PCR tests are like the swab, right?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. And then they put it in and the PCR thing multiplies the genetic material and that makes it easier for them to spot specific things. There's been no logical reason. I mean, look, I've had a lot of conversations with people about all of this stuff. And I'm like, dude, I want to believe that we're all going to come together and we're going to change the world and save everything. And, you know, we all we all pitch in 15 days, slow spread and all that stuff. You just got to tell me what to do and why we're doing it. Yeah, that's all I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:18:56 And they're like, you got to wear a mask. I was like, OK, why? And they're like, I mean, slow the spread. And I was like, sure. How? But I heard them say we don't have to wear masks anymore. Like vaccinated. Well, now vaccinated people need to wear masks.
Starting point is 00:19:09 And like you said, what changed? All right. And I had one guy say to me, dude, the science says that we have to do, you know, everybody who can't get vaccinated should. And I was like, okay. What science? And then he's just like, huh? I'm like, dude, I'm not going to sit here and have someone for political reasons tell me to take medication. I just, I need, I'm begging you.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I am begging the media and the Democrats to just answer the questions. And I know there's probably a lot of good answers out there. And this is what brings me to the ultimate problem. I'm sure right now there's a Democrat out there, a lefty who hates me and thinks my show is bad, saying like, the answer's all right here. You don't even got to think about it. The CDC just says it. And I'm like, bro, the CDC said something yesterday and changed it tomorrow. Fauci, they just revised their mask guidelines, proving they were actually wrong about masks in the first place. I'm confused, man. Yeah. And the mask didn't slow the spread. How about that? Like, how about
Starting point is 00:20:05 we never talk about the fact that the places that masked really heavily still had the highest concentration of deaths and tons of cases. And it turns out the COVID is a seasonal virus and there's very little we can do about it. And we have to just move on. What if we just moved on? There's a vaccine. There's several. There's a new one coming out soon. Oh, wow. People have a choice to get it. And if they do, they're safe. So what's the issue? No, like, serious question. I'm not trying to be a dick.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I'm just, like, genuinely asking. No one's answering that. Well, the issue is the vaccines were rushed out. You know, they're still experimental. That's a big part of the issue. Well, I think they're approved for emergency use, I suppose. My understanding is I read a lot of stories. They've been through clinical trials.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I think it was fast. It was Operation Warp Speed. That's true. But I think there's two reasons we're seeing a lot of the VAERS adverse reactions. One is that we just did like 360 or whatever, 336 million doses. So you're going to see a much higher – not everybody gets the flu shot. You know what I mean? So you have a huge pool of. So you're going to see a much higher, not everybody gets the flu shot. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:21:06 So you have a huge pool of individuals. You're going to see those percentages. And they've never said that wasn't the case. They've always said there's adverse reactions. But I think the other issue is that when, so Stakehams, we mentioned Stakehams, right? Stakehams posted about the vaccine and trusting the experts
Starting point is 00:21:24 and like how we have to learn our limitations and talk to our doctors. And I was like, Sakems, love you, bro. But when I said, talk to your doctor, I got attacked for it. I had people calling me an anti-vaxxer and saying, it's a waste of time. The doctor will say, get it. You're making people scared. And I'm like, I think one of the reasons we have so many VAERS reports is because there are people who don't go to their doctors and just show up to one of these like outside of 7-Eleven and sit down and, hey, give me the vaccine. And if they went to their doctor, the doctor could have said like, oh, I noticed your history as an X. Like maybe you should consider waiting just a little bit. Maybe they still would have recommended it.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And there are some people that probably wouldn't have been recommended it. And then we can reduce the adverse reaction and reduce the hesitancy for people who might be scared because they're seeing a bunch of the stuff in the news. Yeah. On the flip side of that, I think if the doctors had the vaccines at this point, I think more people would get them from their doctor, not from outside of 7-Eleven. I think for a lot of people, it's like, I don't want to go to Yankee Stadium and get a shot. I want to get it from my doctor. And until my doctor has it, I don't feel like this is a real thing. That's a really good point.
Starting point is 00:22:30 There was a story on hannity so hannity comes out and he's like everybody i take the vaccine science very seriously you know you should consider it or whatever there were a lot of trump supporters who are posting things saying like you know f hannity you know whatever mama trump trump supported this like trump was in favor but that's a really good point the good point. This guy calls Hannity to talk about what happened with his doctor. And Media Matters ends up writing about it negatively. And then a bunch of people on the left start saying, you know, oh, Hannity's reversal was short-lived. There was no reversal. The Republicans have always supported the vaccine. DeSantis has always been going around doing this.
Starting point is 00:23:00 But here's what happened in that story. The guy said, I'm a cancer survivor. The CDC actually says on their website, talk to your doctor before getting these vaccines if you're a cancer survivor. And so he went to his doctor and he said he was immunocompromised. The doctor says, look, you're immunocompromised. I would recommend getting this vaccine because you want to protect yourself. You're immunocompromised.
Starting point is 00:23:18 And the man said, I then asked my doctor if he would prescribe it for that reason and administer it. And his doctor said no. Why? I don't know. And I was like, well, online they say you don't need a prescription for it. But you know what? I've gotten prescriptions for ibuprofen.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I've gone to the doctor and they're like, I'm prescribing ibuprofen. Go pick it up. And so this guy said, until my doctor will prescribe it to me as something I need because I'm a cancer survivor and until he will administer it, I don't want to take the risk because I'm worried about the underlying health conditions I have. And I'm like, he's scared. This is a guy who's legitimately worried about his health. And people are yelling at him. He's an anti-vaxxer. They're insulting him. I'm like, dude, that's got to be a scary position to be in. The CDC says, warning for cancer survivors. Talk to your doctor. Your doctor says, I'm not going to prescribe it or administer it. Not even administer it?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Doc, can't you? No. I'd be like, dude, I'm worried because I don't know who this guy is. You're telling me to go to someone else to get it, but you won't do it? I'd be scared too. And every politician who wants restaurants or bars to ask people their vaccine status, when that guy comes to the door and he's like, well, I didn't get the vaccine because I'm a cancer. He has to explain it to a bouncer who has to then make the call whether or not he's
Starting point is 00:24:27 telling the truth and whether or not to let him in like we want that to be happening all over the country where people have to explain their medical history to like the guy at the door no your medical history is private there was a i saw a facebook post uh this guy he's like a studio recorder musician whatever and he was like a studio recorder, musician, whatever. And he was like, this should be obvious to everybody, but I will not work with anybody who is not vaccinated. And all the comments were people cheering, saying, I won't service businesses that don't have vaccine passports anymore. Like, the mandatory vaccine thing is really taking off. And I responded just with, I was like, what if, you know, even people who have medical conditions that are like advised against or have risk factors where they're concerned about getting it. And he was like, well,
Starting point is 00:25:08 I mean, obviously not in that circumstance, but he says, I don't think it would be a good idea to put them in a recording booth for eight hours. And I'm like, all right, you know, maybe that's a good idea. I mean, honestly, someone's having an underlying health condition that, you know, can cause them a health effect to take that stuff seriously. But what was worrying to me about that post was the zealotry. So they talk about vaccine hesitancy. And I think regular people are hesitant for medications for a lot of reasons. You see the opioid crisis. What were they saying in the 90s that wasn't that addictive or something? So people are worried and they want to get a trusted health professional to be like, here's my recommendation for you.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And so now you have the opposite of that. You have vaccine zealotry where people are just like, shut up and get it. Don't talk to your doctor. And I'm like, that's crazy. No talk to your doctor. But people are actually saying that. So when I tweeted, stop listening to celebrities, call your medical professional. I got a bunch of people on the left quote tweeting me saying you're scaring people for no reason. And actually people say, so what? They're going to say, go get it. And I'm like, then what's the problem? Why are you mad that I'm telling people to seek proper medical advice? That creeps me out. I think you're right on. Okay. If for instance, they were like 1% of the people in this age range have an adverse reaction.
Starting point is 00:26:17 That doesn't mean that you have a, if you're in that age range, have a 1% chance. It means that of all those people, 1% of them had adverse reaction, but those people might have had a specific issue that isn't, it's not random. It's not, it's not randomly affecting, like there's specific reasons why people have reactions. So you have to go to a doctor and examine yourself before you start injecting yourself. I mean, it's, you don't have to, but you really, really should. I don't like, I don't like taking, I think acetaminophen is at it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Like this. Regular painkiller. Yeah. I have bad reactions to it. And it's like. It's like over the counter. It's like over the counter. Your blood brain barrier or something.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Ibuprofen, totally fine. Like, you know, I get a headache or whatever, I take ibuprofen, I feel great. Acetaminophen, no. I took it one time. I got really, it gave me a really bad adverse reaction, like headache, migraine, and I'm like, I don't want to take this stuff anymore. Now imagine if everybody said, it's over-the-counter. It's safe.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Everyone, you should just take it. I'd be like, dude. Talk to your doctor. They used to sell cocaine over-the-counter. Those were the days, right? Didn't they say asbestos was safe or something? I think heroin. Didn't bears sell heroin?
Starting point is 00:27:24 They still sell cigarettes. They still sell cigarettes. They still sell alcohol. Well, did they really? They used to have those ads where it was like, nine out of ten doctors saying that smooth mountain cigarettes are right for you. Somebody just posted an ad from the Olympics, like the chosen cigarettes of Olympians. Oh my gosh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Things were crazy back in the day, man. I was watching old sports and old Olympics videos and like the skill level was so dramatically lower and they really didn't care about their clothing and like the food they ate you know yeah bear used to sell heroin to children have you ever seen that look at bear heroin image it's the image of the old bottle interesting baby now they just call it you know oh they call it like oxycodone or Percocet or whatever. Basically the same thing. I don't know what's the difference. It's this new stuff that's freaking me out that George Floyd had, and it's just fentanyl.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Fentanyl. Oh, China. They're not prescribing that stuff, are they? Is that medical grade? I think so. Yeah, they are. Are they prescribing it? I believe they are.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Sometimes they prescribe fentanyl. Really? I believe that it's relatively rare, but it's a pain controller. Yes, 100%. People do get it. I was watching Stargate SG-1. Oh, were you? And in one of the episodes, this is from 2000 or whatever, she's like, I need 100 micrograms of fentanyl or whatever. And I'm like, oh, I guess doctors have that stuff. You know what I mean? I want to pull up the story though, because we're talking about Republicans. We got this reporting from Michael Tracy over at
Starting point is 00:28:42 his M. Tracy Substack. He says, Media promotes fake vaccine hesitancy narrative to justify coercion and scolding. This is an excellent bit of reporting because Michael Tracy basically went through the Republicans, what their statements have been on vaccines, and he is outright, definitively proving the media is lying.
Starting point is 00:29:02 But it's insane to me. How is it there are so many left personalities and Democrats who genuinely believe conservatives opposed to vaccines? Right. I'm really confused. He's got Donald Trump. He says this one produces an overload of cognitive dissonance, both among hardcore Trump supporters and detractors.
Starting point is 00:29:18 The simple fact is that Trump presided over and spearheaded Operation Warp Speed, the federal government's initiative to publicly fund the production and manufacture of a vaccine on an expedited timescale far beyond anything ever before attempted in history. Whether or not Trump should receive credit for doing this is an ancillary pundit style consideration. It's just the factual reality. Of course, throughout 2020, Trump was pilloried by self-appointed fact checkers, the most exalted guardians of the facts, for his assurances that a vaccine would be available on an expedited schedule. But then that's exactly what happened. Put another way, if there's any single individual
Starting point is 00:29:53 who's most directly responsible for the historically unprecedented mass provision of vaccines, perhaps other than the scientists who actually created them, that individual would have to be Donald Trump. This isn't something that's often acknowledged by most of the hardcore online factions of Trump supporters who tend to lean vaccine skeptical, nor is it acknowledged by Trump's opponents who shudder at the mere thought of assigning him credit for anything. But it's also just true. I think, didn't Biden say the vaccine was created under the Republican administration and he praised McConnell for promoting the vaccine? Maybe, you know, it's really funny. Democrats democrats are sitting there and like why won't people get the vaccines and they're like maybe we should just like let them know that donald trump's the one who did it and give credit
Starting point is 00:30:31 to the republicans really and then biden's like oh actually i mean the credit goes to them here's what he says he goes on trump himself seems cognizant of this at every opportunity he trumpets operation warp speed as one of his administration's signature accomplishments, and understandably so. So Tracy notes that Trump urges all Americans to get COVID vaccine. It's a safe vaccine and it works. The former president and first lady, Melania Trump, received their vaccines privately in January at the White House. Mike Pence, pro-vaccine the whole time. Ron DeSantis, he said, here's another odd one. When the vaccines first became available, DeSantis immediately declared, quote, we are working to get as much vaccine for our citizens as possible and implemented a distribution
Starting point is 00:31:14 plan that prioritized elderly Florida residents, which resulted in a bizarre round of media pushback, as though prioritizing the elderly for vaccine distribution was some sinister plot. DeSantis also personally received the vaccine distribution was some sinister plot. Yes, it's amazing. DeSantis also personally received the vaccine and publicized this fact. When his age group first became eligible, like all other Republican governors, he's been in charge of administering and promoting his state's vaccination program from the outset. And one of the reasons they lifted the lockdowns was they're like, we're good.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Vaccines, roll them out. I was living in Florida when the vaccines were rolled out. I got my vaccine in Florida. DeSantis was all over the place touting vaccines and the idea that he was against vaccines is like comical it's like he both like got the vaccines too too quickly to his people and he also didn't want them to take it like how could it be both it's this is the weirdest thing so we then i'll just i'll just show you the other name the other names we've got greg abbott always in favor christy gnome uh mitch mcconnell ted cruz marco rubio kevin mccarthy tom cotton josh hawley they have all been been been been pushing this yet somehow the narrative is all of a sudden republicans
Starting point is 00:32:14 are coming around right this is insane you even had the what was it it was k ivy where she was like the spread is the fault of the unvaccinated. I'm like literally everybody like in politics is pro vaccine. Yeah. The media for some reason created this narrative. Why? I mean, I think because they want to blame somebody and they can't blame their own factions who aren't taking the vaccine. I mean, black and Hispanic Americans are among the lowest percentages of vaccinated Americans. And so they can't criticize them. And so they find the Trump, you know, the Trump lovers and blame it on them.
Starting point is 00:32:52 What's fascinating to me is that you now have the two most popular conservative or right wing candidates, Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis in the CPAC poll. Trump dominates. They took Trump out. Ron DeSantis dominates. Trump is begging for the credit on the vaccine. He's like sending out these emails. I get him and he's like, I did all this and like our administration and the Democrats won't admit it. And Ron DeSantis himself led the charge. And the media is trying to claim conservatives are anti-vax.
Starting point is 00:33:22 You know what the issue is? There was one study I saw. Well, briefly, a lot of people noted this or were sharing the study. It found that vaccine hesitant individuals that they called anti-vaxxers were more knowledgeable about the data, the science and what was currently going on. I think the simple answer is that when people do the research, when they take a look at their medical histories and then go talk to their doctors, they tend to make private and personal medical, and then go talk to their doctors, they tend to make private and personal medical decisions for the betterment of their lives.
Starting point is 00:33:52 And it's not the result often that the Democrats want to see happen. I mean, they could also solve the does Donald Trump want people to take the vaccine by having any number of reporters who still speak to him on a semi regular basis, ask him, do you want people to take the vaccine? I think that would just, you know, get to the bottom of it pretty quickly. But they don't want to hear the answer to that because they know he's going to say yes. They know he's going to say, yeah, of course, I want you to take the Trump vaccine, the greatest vaccine that's ever been produced. I did the vaccine with my in the backyard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Trump is I don't know if for those that are listening, if you saw the Freedom Tunes clip we just put out, where it's Fauci and Trump are in Mount Doom in the Wuhan wet market, and Fauci's like, cast it into the fire. But then Trump is basically at a hearing saying, I am the greatest president who has ever lived. Even Fauci agrees. And Fauci's like, no, I don't. But that's, you know, the reason that joke works is because Donald Trump, if they gave him a press conference, if they wanted, give the man a press conference. Bring him out the front of the rose garden one more time like come on in trump here's the microphone what do you got to say it was me it was all me i did all the work
Starting point is 00:34:52 everybody should be supporting this i mean it's true yeah it's is he saying everyone should get the vaccine yeah well i mean i just read his quote that's dangerous rhetoric no i agree and also for him to say that it's the most effective vaccine or Well, I mean, I just read his quote. That's dangerous rhetoric. No, I agree. People need to talk to their founders. I agree. I agree. And also for him to say that it's the most effective vaccine is unknown yet. But it's Trumpy. You know, like Trump would just be like, this is the best vaccine ever because I was involved in making it.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Is he responsible for this becoming politicized in the first place? The way he talks about it? I mean, I wouldn't call him responsible. I'd say the media is responsible. He should have come out and been like, I have accrued a huge group of doctors to look at this, and they're all going to take over. I have a giant panel of 60 doctors
Starting point is 00:35:31 from around the world that are going to control this from here on out. There are a lot of things Trump could have done that he didn't do. Instead, he's like, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:35:39 It's my, put my name on that thing. It's like Obamacare, man. You ruined healthcare by politicizing it. Who was it who came out and said they should call it the Trump vaccine? Was that Geraldo? I don't know if it was Geraldo. No, it was somebody. It was a really good idea.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Yeah, call it the Trump vaccine. But I'm like, why? The Democrats wouldn't take it. They'd have the same problem. Yeah. Yes, so the Fox News story of March 16th. Trump urges all Americans to get COVID vaccine. It's a safe vaccine and it works.
Starting point is 00:36:04 There's no evidence for that. We're still finding out as we go. Here's the issue I have. And like, I am always criticizing the media. Like that is the main issue. When you have 336 million doses or whatever, because we're doing a massive rollout across the country, then you're going to end up with a disproportionate amount of news stories
Starting point is 00:36:22 about adverse reactions. I take those stories seriously. And I want to make sure that I will never give someone advice. And then the last thing I want is for someone to show up with a crutch being like, you said do this. That's why I'm like, you got to make these decisions for yourself. And that's why it's dangerous to just like make these demands. But I do think one of the reasons we have so many reports in the VAERS system, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System is simply the number of vaccines that have been administered. I think, you know, it's in the media.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's talked about a whole lot. So people are more cognizant of what's going on. And everybody's going to get it. Plus, like I said before, some people aren't talking to their doctors. So that may be a good portion of the adverse events. But it's just a personal decision you've got to make for yourself. And outside of all that, I do think there's a problem with – there was a Wall Street Journal op-ed I can't tell you about. We can talk about it in the bonus segment, but YouTube's got specific rules that was
Starting point is 00:37:17 questioning the FDA and their decisions. And so I'll just put it that way, that there are mainstream news articles saying we aren't doing right by people based on how to respond to this pandemic, which is, we'll have to save it because we'll get banned if I get into it. No joke. It's a Wall Street Journal article. But yeah, YouTube's rules are so bonkers that simply citing it is a ban-worthy offense. That's the state of this country. And I think that's a really good reason as to why information overload, everything's mixed up and broken and we can't figure out what's going on. Yeah. Hard to trust. Really hard to trust right now. I keep saying that this is the worst PR campaign they ever ran. Like, how are you supposed to convince people to take any kind of universal medicine if you keep going back and forth at
Starting point is 00:38:02 every level, every single person, Rochelle Walens walensky dr fauci these are the people that we look up to rochelle walensky said earlier i think it was today she was talking about the kids who have died of covid she literally said things that are factually provable with the cdc's data untrue completely untrue you know what she said she was talking about how it's like more dangerous than the flu for kids and people pulled up the data from the cdc and we're like this is clearly not true well i'm i i don't know i don't know about all of that uh i do know that when crowder said cite the cdc data he got he got banned from youtube for it well or he got a suspension right for bringing it up so i don't know i'll just say uh you know whatever whatever walensky says whatever fauci says it's true it's all true it's all true yeah
Starting point is 00:38:44 even if they say something different tomorrow. Yeah. Well, that's true too. That's the new fact. Yeah. So that was a really good point brought up in – where was this point brought up? I'm forgetting. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 It was – who was it? Peter Doocy or Steve? Which one's the younger one? Peter. Peter. Yeah, he asked Jen Psaki about the censorship, and he said, there's a video from March of Fauci saying not to wear a mask. That's still up.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And, you know, people see that. He's like, aren't you concerned that you might get something removed that later turns out to be true? For him. Yeah. Yeah, she's not concerned. No, no. But this is, it's the best example. I think this last year is the best example of the problem with censorship. And centralized control of communications doesn't work because that's right fauci has been wrong on
Starting point is 00:39:30 numerous occasions and his response is but it's the science okay i can respect that the science changed the problem is you banned people for what is now the right response right you know like you later come back and say oh those people those people were right the whole time, then why'd you ban them? That's where we're currently at. Yeah. I mean, you're right that this year was a big test case for censorship,
Starting point is 00:39:52 but I don't see people being outraged about it. I feel like just Americans have been so muted about this kind of thing. It's really disappointing. It should be across the board outrage. It shouldn't just be people on the right. I don't know how we're going to solve whatever is going on you got to build new tech the media is just shattered yeah that's why we're working on the fediverse and expanding fediverse projects because i don't think you can you can legislate a solution to tech oligarchs
Starting point is 00:40:19 yeah censoring the world so we're trying to build a decentralized network that's uncensorable essentially yeah and i don't think that improving the technology is going to make people want to be more honest. The problem that we're looking at is kind of like a human problem. This is a question I have about a lot of AIs. Who programs the AI that determines what goes on? If it's humans, you're going to literally have the exact same problem you have with humans, but it'll be AI. So it'll be different, special. It's like it
Starting point is 00:40:45 does it just look at look at the self-driving car problem right so we're trying to program cars to drive themselves but there are some really serious questions that we can answer like if you're driving in a car and the car drives car driving itself and an old lady walks in front of you does the car decide to hit the old lady to protect the driver or swerve out of the way to save the old lighter and risk save the old lady and risk the driver someone has to tell the car what to do or i guess the funny thing is we'll be like we'll give it an ai an artificial intelligence it'll figure it out on its own and the car decides to hit everybody it's like yeah whatever get them out of the road no so somebody's got to program those parameters you know maybe maybe there should be like three rules like like never harm a human and um the
Starting point is 00:41:27 second rule should be like uh uh always follow the instructions of a human and the third rule is unless it contradicts the first rule or whatever what are the what are the three rules i'm forgetting them you know i'm talking about the sky net no what are you talking about no i was like isn't it like asimov's right don't't become sentient. Yeah, don't become sentient. No thinking. Don't destroy us. I like that meme that's like, I think you, there's the cop and he's like,
Starting point is 00:41:53 I think you've had a bit too much to think. And he's like, you know, wagging his finger at you and it's his thought police or whatever. So here's what's happened, right? So I wake up in the morning and I see these stories and they're like, DC's locking down and Nevada's locking down. And I'm like, I have no idea what's going on.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I have no idea what the rationale is. i have no rationale i have no idea what the data is there's no there's no science anymore yeah there's there's contradictory studies across the board saying one thing saying something else that people are accusing one study of being political and the other study being political and i'm just sitting here like i wonder what the chickens are up to right like i can't i can't i can't talk about it i can't opine on it i'm just like everybody's gone nuts the machine's broken you know it's a political madness
Starting point is 00:42:29 this is why I err on the side of like becoming an artist a famous artist you look at like rock stars and how well loved they are like Dave Grohl if we had that kind of cultural sway I mean so much more effective
Starting point is 00:42:41 than complaining about it or even trying to fix it politically you can't politically fix this thing it needs a technological solution didn't they do a concert more effective than complaining about it or even trying to fix it politically. You can't politically fix this thing. It needs a technological solution. Didn't they do a concert where you had to get the vaccine to come in and then one of the members of the band who was vaccinated got COVID? Somebody involved with the organization. They didn't say who.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Amazing. Probably in the band. I don't know. I see stories like that and I'm like, I don't know what this means. If you're vaccinated and you're putting on events for only vaccinated people why are you shutting down because one person was sick i thought that's what they said was going to happen i don't think i gotta be honest i don't think anybody knows right i think there's a lot of people who want to think it's a grand conspiracy because we talk about the great reset quite a bit and i'm like i don't know i think they're juggling
Starting point is 00:43:16 you know they're it's a bunch of people all juggling and no one has any idea of who's doing what or why i think incompetence is usually the best explanation. I think we really have a bunch of incompetent people who have no idea what's happening and don't want to give up this moment of power for themselves and don't want this to end. Right. Fauci is very famous right now. More than he's ever been in his life.
Starting point is 00:43:37 On TV all the time. When's that going to happen again? This is it. This is his big run. He's been on TV before. He's been on TV quite a bit but i've never heard of him until last but this is not like you're young yeah yeah he's always like 80 80 i think yeah oh wow yeah so he's been around for quite a long time tony you look good for an 80 year old right yeah he gets paid you know more than the president he's the highest paid federal employee oh it's so messed up not elected well look i think when it comes to what's going on
Starting point is 00:44:02 with there's a lot we'll talk about. We'll save it for the members portion because we can get into some harder numbers and we'll pull up this Wall Street Journal story, which I can't talk about on YouTube. No joke. But I can talk about something that I think is a ticking time bomb. And I'd love to get your thoughts on this, Carol. This is the nationwide eviction ban is going to expire this Saturday after Biden administration loses fight with the Supreme Court. So there it is. We, you know, we were talking about it the other day.
Starting point is 00:44:29 There's millions of people that are ready to be evicted. Someone super chatted us saying that they work at a bank and the bank is like lining up evictions. And we were like, is there going to be an intervention to stop the evictions? Because if there isn't, we're going to have August of panic where people are like, I got 30 days. And then September 1st of 10 million people standing in the street saying, I don't live anywhere.
Starting point is 00:44:52 So there are already interventions. In New York, for example, the New York State government is partnering with an organization to pay the landlords. And that's going to be amazing because we have, you know, we just print more money. Because New York's got all the money in the landlords. And that's going to be amazing because we have, you know, we just print more money.
Starting point is 00:45:07 It's going to just go great. Because New York's got all the money in the world. Right. They weren't in a budget crisis before all this. So that's what's happening in New York. And I think that's going to happen in other states also. But really also begs the question why, like, we didn't go this route before.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Like, if we're going to just pay all these people, like, why didn't we start doing this earlier and be be able to evict people and so they can move on to other homes and pay their rent there i mean if we're just going to be throwing money at people like let's get started because you know what other countries are doing when businesses would shut down they would keep paying the employees the government paid the employees to not go to work but if they quit that business they wouldn't get paid anymore as opposed to incentivizing them to quit to not go to work. But if they quit that business, they wouldn't get paid anymore. Yeah. As opposed to incentivizing them to quit and not go back to work, which we've done in the United States. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And the businesses were shut down. So these restaurants would have $20,000 worth of food in their fridges, and then they'd close for, even if it was 15 days, all that food spoils. They couldn't sell it, and now they're in the hole 20 days. And they're reopening some of them, and they're like, okay, guys, come back to work. And the people are like, no, I'm getting paid to stay at home. Dude, the most brutal story was when they reopened and then quickly shut down. So there was one story about a New York restaurant where they were like, all our food was spoiled.
Starting point is 00:46:16 We got rid of it all. They said we are reopening. So then we ordered another $20,000 worth of food to get everything back and ready to go. And then they announced there was a halt and they were going to shut back down or something and all the food spoils again. And it is just beating small businesses over that over and over and over again. Is this like another transfer of wealth to now to landlords? Like they're sending government money to landlords?
Starting point is 00:46:36 The landlords are still in the hole. Are they going to pay the back rent? Yeah, they are paying the back rent. So like the story today was one landlord was owed $28,000 and they sent him $24,000. But they're going to look into why they didn't send the other $4,000 and then resend it to him. So yeah. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I don't understand how it's happening. I don't understand how there's anywhere near enough money for it. Because then next month there's going to be a bunch of people who didn't pay this month and they're going to have to do it again, right? Yeah. It's like we really don't learn. So, you know. I like we really don't learn. I don't think they realized, or maybe they did, maybe it's the Great Reset, that you can't just
Starting point is 00:47:12 stop an economy. It's a freight train. I think I used this analogy before. You ever see the movie Hancock with Will Smith? A part of it, yeah. Jason Bateman's car stops in the tracks and he can't get out and the train's coming. So Hancock lands, flips his car out of the way, and then the train hits him and he doesn't move. So the train just crumples and then every car flies up in the air because that energy has got to go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And then they're all just like dropping and crashing. That's what happened. So this idea that we can just be like, okay, starter back up, turn the key, and then the economy is going to go. It's not going to happen. I write about small businesses a lot. I had a column this week about how a lot of the tech firms are already pushing back their coming back date. It was supposed to be September, which is already such a long time away even now. But they're already moving to October, and Twitter said that they're not even opening their offices for a while.
Starting point is 00:48:01 No, they're closed. They're closed. Yeah, yeah. So there's a bunch of businesses that support those big businesses. You know, the bodega and the halal cart guy and the, you know, the shoe shiner
Starting point is 00:48:11 and the dry cleaner and everybody on that street. And they're all paused waiting for normalcy to return. And these companies are like, eh, I don't know, maybe we will, maybe we won't,
Starting point is 00:48:22 you know, we'll see. It's really interesting. I think a lot of younger people, especially the Democrat voters, because they skew younger, or at least there's more younger people, they don't understand basic economics. A city with no industry eventually dies out because no money is coming in.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Supermarkets, small businesses don't survive because they're usually providing a service to an existing infrastructure. So what happens is exactly what you said. Twitter says, we are closing our offices in New York. What's below the Twitter office? Probably a bodega and a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Who are their customers? Employees of Twitter who are going to lunch. Now the office is closed. There's not even going to be another business that comes in to replace it. So now the local corner store has no one in the area. No one's at work. So they shut down. And it's going to ripple across the board. Then they pay these landlords. They give people free money. They give people free money. They just keep giving free money. But you know what free money is? A ticket
Starting point is 00:49:12 to extract resources without providing resources. That imbalance cannot be corrected. There's no key to just turn the engine on to fix that. Yeah. To me, that sounds a little bit like they expect you to be able to travel back in time. And just like they thought it would be really simple to shut down the economy, it seems to me like they also think it's going to be really simple to just open it up again. Yeah. Just start it up again. So they're doing these emergency things in New York, but are they doing it anywhere else? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:38 This was just announced today in New York. Wow. Last minute save. I have to imagine that there's a lot of states that aren't going to get these bailouts. Yeah. And we're going to see millions of people without homes. I wonder at what point people just start saying, I don't care what you say anymore. You know, I'm already seeing, because D.C. locked down, tons of people tweeting.
Starting point is 00:50:00 They don't care what they say. They're not going to abide by this stuff. And I'm like, at a certain point, people just say enough. And I hope you're right. I just, I have seen nothing from my fellow Americans this year, especially from my fellow New Yorkers, to suggest that people are going to take any kind of stance. Well, New York.
Starting point is 00:50:16 I know. But I mean, like a year ago, I thought for sure, if schools didn't open in New York, if public schools didn't open in New York, but private schools did open in New York, I was like, oh, the parents are going to riot. Are you kidding? The private schools open, but the public schools don't? No, nobody said anything.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Yeah. I feel like we're out in the middle of nowhere. And part of me is like I was mentioning earlier, I'm sitting here thinking, I wonder what the chickens are doing. Because they don't care about this. That makes sense to me. They're going there. They're eating food. They lay eggs.
Starting point is 00:50:44 I know what's going on. I look at the news i have no idea i'm wondering how many people are just going to continue to evacuate these cities are going to keep leaving because we've heard about the exodus i'm wondering why you're still in new york well we would have never left before the pandemic i mean i knew i lived in a super leftist place but at least like it was a competent city i mean it was it was going so well that we elected bill de blasio twice like that's how well things so well that we elected Bill de Blasio twice. Like, that's how well things were going that we just didn't care, like, who was mayor.
Starting point is 00:51:09 But after this year, we lived in Florida for almost five months, and it was an oasis of sanity, and now we're definitely thinking about making it a permanent move. I mean, it's hard. You had your vision of your life. We were going to live in Brooklyn, raise our kids there, retire to Manhattan, and now it's like, oh, we're going to move to a different state entirely. It's tough. West Virginia is pretty nice.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I need an ocean. I need an ocean. Well, it's not too far away. It's like an hour. So, you know, Bill de Blasio said the voluntary phase is over. Yeah. So are you guys, is that a factor? I mean, it's not, you know, about the vaccines.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Like I said, I'm vaccinated. My husband's vaccinated. No, but it's like the political change. Yes, it is crazy. I also just don't believe him. The voluntary phase is over. He's like the biggest goof. Like he's just, you know, and what's crazy is he actually did a better job throughout the pandemic than Governor Cuomo.
Starting point is 00:52:02 But Cuomo was like the hero of the pandemic but de blasio was actually if you if you look at them side by side i mean they're both like terrible but de blasio did better yeah yeah de blasio is probably kicking himself for not murdering those 15 000 people like cuomo did right because that's something cuomo got away with certainly that was a factor i can't i can't believe that i'm i'm yeah i'm just i sit here every every day i wake up and i'm like i'm a murdered 15,000 people and nobody cared he was warned not to do it he could have put him in the javits center or the mercy hospital vessel and he said no i'm gonna put him in nursing homes yeah because he didn't want to give trump the win dead well now bill de blasio has given people 100 bucks nyc to pay big apple $100 for first COVID vaccine injection.
Starting point is 00:52:45 What? This creeps people out. I'm sorry. All right. You know, like they did lotteries. There are some people you're not going to convince. Yeah. I think the $100 might get a lot of people, though.
Starting point is 00:52:53 I agree. Yeah. I think people will motivate to go. Again, I think that the fact that they're still at, like, vaccination centers, not in your doctor's office, really does deter people. So if they're paying $100, I guess they'll go stand, you know, they'll go to get some random location and get their vaccination there. But it is creepy. It's very creepy that they need to be handing out $100 bills.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Are they paying people that already got vaccinated in retrospect now? No. Well, but what if – That's dirty. What if someone goes to one of these vaccine centers and says like, oh, I never got it, but they did because they won $100? Yeah. I think – is there a – I mean, I never got it, but they did because they want $100? Yeah. I think – is there a – I mean, I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Is there a database? There's no database to check whether – Oh, I don't know. Yeah. I assume there would be. And in the future, this would be incentive to say, no, I'm not going to get it and wait until they start bribing. For sure. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Who's going to get the booster, for example, until they give me $1,000? Yeah, it's like you're flying a plane and they're like we are overbooked we need volunteers we're off like will anyone volunteer no one does we're offering a hundred dollars no one does 200 300 i guess they you know last time i flew it was like they can go cook a thousand dollars wow so you know what i what i would do is when they would say like here's our offer i would go up and be like double it yeah it'd be like done here you go and i'd be like all right and then i just feel like i'm gonna sit here for a few hours i'm good you know you should also get the food voucher right and like a hotel voucher you can get it all oh yeah depending on how long you get delayed you can also be like i once was just like can i get first class in the next flight
Starting point is 00:54:16 and they're like yes sir wow i was like yes they just gotta they they have to get you off that plane yeah so anyway yes people are gonna, oh, they want boosters now. Right. Let's wait it out and see how much we can get out of this guy. The less of us that go, the faster they'll start bribing us. That might not work out. Dude, I wonder if the main problem is that there's just too many people. Just in general?
Starting point is 00:54:38 It's poorly organized. How do you organize millions and millions and millions of people? On the internet? I was just thinking about this. If we did have some sort of, like, debt revolution or something where people either refuse to pay their debts or they default on a Federal Reserve interest or whatever, that wouldn't be enough. A chaotic revolution would just be madness. We'd have to, like, create a new constitution, maybe using the Manila principles, factoring in the internet, using cryptocurrency, building a new economy all at once. If there was a change, we'd have to have the structure in place like the founding fathers did.
Starting point is 00:55:10 We're there. We're close to it. The Manila principles are legit. Cryptocurrency is amazing. I just think about how a lot of our structures in terms of Congress and voting was built around a substantially smaller amount of people. Yeah, and less technology. Sending like feather, writing things with feathers and sending on horseback. and voting was built around a substantially smaller amount of people. Yeah. 2.5 million people. And less technology. Sending like feather, writing things with feathers and sending on horseback.
Starting point is 00:55:29 No IDs. Took two months to get messages to England back. Right. You know what always tripped me out? I was watching Pirates of the Caribbean, and it's like the opening scene in the first movie where Jack Sparrow's on the boat as it's sinking, and he lands, and then they're like,
Starting point is 00:55:42 what's your name? And he's like, I'll pay you if you don't ask why just tell him bill smith yeah he does say smith though but like yeah just you can just walk and be like hi i'm i'm you know john smith yeah there you go prove it what are you gonna do about it and he's like oh no he's been branded or whatever but yeah it was that's the that's the that's one thing people need to understand is like uh i was talking about this earlier the reason why you had to own land in order to vote was mostly because there were no ids and your tie to the community was the fact that you lived there and they didn't want people to show up who didn't live there vote for things and then leave that was part of it obviously there were still a lot of old patriarchal structures and
Starting point is 00:56:23 things like things like that but there's I think the changes that came about with universal suffrage made sense in that we're not buying land anymore. We live in New York. We rent it. Most people are renters, so they vote in that capacity. But things were so dramatically different back then. I wonder if we got to get back to people got to spread out, get out of these cities, learn some personal responsibility. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, the thing is that the cities were doing so great until they weren't. Right. So it's it's like it almost kind of shows that like the cities have have had their moment. But I don't know. I mean, you really want people moving out here like a good point. Do you? Yeah. Well, I mean, you really want people moving out here? Oh, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Do you? Yeah. Well, I mean, there's pros and there's cons. It's not about too close. It's about there's lot sizes. It's like so, you know, there's a few acres around where it's like we have our space. We have more space than a city. Would I want to live in Philadelphia?
Starting point is 00:57:23 We had half an acre for the whole house. So the front yard was a third. The house was a third, the backyard was a third. And you couldn't do a whole lot. I mean, we could skate in the backyard and we had a mini ramp, but we could only do it between certain hours because the neighbors would be like too late, too early. Now we can go out at 1 in the morning and scream at the top of our lungs. And there are people who live not too far away. They don't care.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Some days you'll be sitting there and you'll hear bangs. You'll hear gunshots. And you are people who live not too far away. They don't care. Some days you'll be sitting there and you'll hear bangs. You'll hear gunshots. And you're just like, oh, hunting again. You just turn your coffee, like whatever. Yeah, in Brooklyn too.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Oh, yeah. Yeah, I lived on right off Myrtle and Nostrand. That's where that cops got assassinated. I'd be, one of the reasons I didn't know what happened
Starting point is 00:58:01 when it happened, so like I'm sitting in my bed and I get a text message, are you near the assassinations? And I'm like, what happened? It was like one of my'm sitting in my bed. I get a text message. Are you near the assassinations? And I'm like, what happened? It was like one of my bosses at Fusion. And then I look out the window and I see cops everywhere. It's because I'm sitting there all day and I hear gunshots all the time.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And I'm just like sitting there and I hear pow, pow, pow. And I'm like, do, do, do. Like, you know, I'm just going to whatever. I don't know. This is welcome to New York. You know what I mean? And New York's not even that bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Yeah, Chicago. Way worse. Much worse. I thought L.A. was amazing before the pandemic. I was like, as we develop electric cars, we're going to get all these gas guzzlers off the road. L.A. is going to be a paradise. But I knew in the back of my head the central electric grid and water grid were very, very tenuous. Because if some sort of cataclysm or disaster caused the water grid to break and the electric grid to break, those people would have started cannibalizing each other.
Starting point is 00:58:45 It would have been terror on earth. And I think COVID gave us kind of an early warning sign of the danger of being packed together in cities with a centralized, you know, importing your water and your food and your electricity. We could, like, decentralize the water to each house could have their own water pump, you know, electrical. Yeah. And food, grow your own food. I mean, own water pump, electrical. Yeah. And food. Grow your own food.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I mean, it's pretty drastic change. Right. But until then, I don't see the value of living in a city. Yeah. I think cities cause cultural decay. At least they do now. I think before there used to be hubs of culture. Because you'd live outside the city.
Starting point is 00:59:21 You'd have very little contact. Then you'd go into the city and you'd see things. You'd talk to people, you'd learn things and it was like, that's where the stuff was happening. You know, my favorite movie to cite in this regard is the movie The Patriot with Mel Gibson. It's a great movie. I love it. But there's a scene where he's like, the kid's like, are we going to Charlestown?
Starting point is 00:59:36 We're going to town, like, yeah! And now it's like, ugh, town, it smells like sour milk, there's traffic everywhere. I don't need to be there. It's hard to eat, it's hard to sit. sit restaurants in new york i don't i you know what i think back to living there and i understood why i wanted to live there when i first i remember the first time i went to new york it was just it was during occupy wall street and i took a bus from virginia and i remember finally getting to new york city and i can't remember i have no idea which bridge we
Starting point is 01:00:02 were crossing i can't remember and then i see the city and the buildings and I'm like, holy, I'm from Chicago. And New York has five Chicago's. So I remember you're driving downtown, you see all the buildings and it's like, I'm used to that. New York was something else. I'm like, I want to live here. It's like being downtown Chicago everywhere. And then after a few years, I was like, you want to go to a restaurant? You're crammed in the corner in this tiny seat with your shoulders like this, and you're like, thanks for the food.
Starting point is 01:00:30 There's no room. I'm exaggerating, obviously. But it's like, it's congested. It stinks. There's nowhere to park. Transportation, the trains are often crowded and smelly. I used to love all of this. I used to love every single thing about it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I really was such a New York supremacist. I like really thought it was the greatest place ever. And I still like, you know, it's really hard. It's like I always compare it to like letting go of like a really good relationship. But like that just isn't working out for you. Yeah, I don't know. If COVID had never happened, I would be here like being like New York is the best. You don't fuck with New York.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Sorry. What was your first experience seeing Manhattanhattan um so i i grew up in brooklyn so um i don't really remember you know i feel bad for you know why you you there's a lot of people like growing up in chicago i got to experience the first time seeing a city as massive as new york but for someone who's from there there's no point where you're going to see something. I guess you go to Tokyo. Right. You know, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Tokyo's crazy. Dude, I had the most nutball experience with New York City. I moved to Queens. I'd been through Manhattan when I was younger, but I took the subway into Manhattan for the first time. I walked out of the subway. Oh, my God. And looked up, and it was just 90-story skyscrapers all around me.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And I could feel, like, the vacuum. And, like, I was being sucked up in a way. It was so bizarre. Man, what a city. I do think that Tim is right. Sorry, I have to say this real fast. I think that Tim is right. And I think that cities have become too crowded.
Starting point is 01:01:57 I think too many people live in one place at one time. It becomes very insular. So instead of being, like, a cultural center, you just get, like, an echo chamber. And also, when something goes wrong, it affects a thousand more people than it would otherwise. Right. Very much effect. It's like a ripple effect and it's exponential in a city. And just this moment of conformity.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Cities have really not been a great place to be when everybody has to think the same. There isn't that, you know, diversity of thought or just a lot of great culture going on because everybody's exactly the same and you could only be one way and like comedy has to be very very muted and all of it really just sucks and it's it's it is definitely a problem that is centered on cities but it's a problem that we're having i think all across the country i think one of the issues is that when you get a complete one party rule there's no way to challenge bad ideas. Yeah. So the people in power are like, hey, we're going to lock everyone down and shut your businesses down.
Starting point is 01:02:48 And you agree because you're a Democrat, right? You're not a Republican, are you? Exactly. And they go, I'm not a Republican. I'm going to wear the mask so that no one thinks I'm a Republican. Right. So saith David Hogg.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And then you'll get Cuomo being like, I'm going to put people in nursing homes and kill 15,000 people. And then they're like, well, he's a Democrat, so it must be okay. And then they find out that he abused women and they all freak out. Like, oh, no, what do we do? That's the one thing we're not supposed to.
Starting point is 01:03:11 But then the freak out was very short-lived. And then they were like, but he's a Democrat, so it's okay. And I'm a Democrat, so it's okay. This is why I think Stakehams is wrong. So big threat from Stakehams, I've mentioned I think three times now. No, no, no, but I think it's important that what's interesting about this is it's a mainstream brand and they're constantly these brands are trying to one up each other. Wendy's was like always snarking and they were more of like the youthful, exuberant, like, well, you suck. Yeah, Wendy's. And people would follow it and laugh.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Then Stakehams comes out and the Wikipedia says that they receive accolades for acting like a real person on Twitter. Well, the interesting thing is this Twitter thread that Stakehams put out is a centrist view on societal collapse and talking about what we need to do, saying that experts need to admit when they were wrong and apologize for it. And the other side needs to recognize that they have limitations too. And there are experts who probably know more than them. And I'm like, thank you, Stakehams, for trying. But you are late to the party. Joe Biden has near universal approval from Democrats and near universal disapproval from Republicans. Nothing will change this. Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:04:24 You could go to a Biden supporter and be like, I will give you $1 million to put on a MAGA hat. They're going to be like, no. Okay, maybe $1 million. Yeah, $1 million is a tie. But I'm exaggerating.
Starting point is 01:04:34 But I got to be honest. I'm willing to bet that, you know, a lot of these people on the left will not do anything to benefit themselves if it puts them at odds with their tribe. They're scared to break from it. And it's this social order thing that humans have where it's like you've got to be a part of a certain tribe. Otherwise, you'll be at risk.
Starting point is 01:04:54 But the interesting thing here is that conservatives tend to be more individualistic. So they're less concerned about being outed but still kind of are. Like when it comes to the culture war, right, there are numerous instances where you could say something that will get a bunch of people on the right angry with you and they'll start canceling you and they'll do the exact same thing that the left will do. Not exact same. I talk about this a lot where I think it is different.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Like a public conservative has a much tougher time getting canceled than a public leftist. I mean, they can't, you know, recently I've been clicking like hashtags to see like why a celebrity was, you know, trending. And it's because they hate all of them. All the celebrities are like not left enough. Like this celebrity used to be – Lena Dunham trended recently.
Starting point is 01:05:34 They hate her now. She used to be one of them and now she's out. I just don't see that happening in the same way with conservatives. No, no, no. You're right. That's why I say it's the exception on the right but the rule on the left. Yeah. So there are still tribalists on the right who will be like, you can't – you know, I, no. You're right. That's why I say it's the exception on the right, but the rule on the left. Yeah. So there
Starting point is 01:05:45 are still tribalists on the right who will be like, you can't, you know, I reject this. You're wrong. You're a grifter and all that stuff. Right. But on the left, it's like, jeez. It's like 99 things you could say to get fired, you know, get canceled, and one thing to stay in line on the right with Republicans and conservatives and the
Starting point is 01:06:01 intellectual dark web kind of centrists. It's 99 things you can say without anyone caring. But that one thing you can say, it'll get you canceled. Yeah. Yeah, there was Charlie Kirk, you know, was talking about Simone Biles. And all of a sudden I see that he's trending and there's an uproar. We brought up the other day, but I think this is a really great example. Philip DeFranco did a segment where he used an image of Charlie Kirk with a shrunken face for his thumbnail.
Starting point is 01:06:25 And I'm like, why? Do you know who Philip DeFranco is? No. He's one of the first big YouTubers. He would do news and he's like, you know, he would be like, you just got filled in. And that was his bit. And he would like talk about the news. And it was always very like moderate.
Starting point is 01:06:40 He actually interviewed, I think he interviewed Gary Johnson during, what was it, like 20, was it 2016? 2016, yeah. He runs every time, so. Yeah, yeah Johnson during, what was it, like 2016? Yeah. He runs every time, so. Yeah. That's what I voted for him. But he was like, you know, Filt the Time was like libertarian, calm, reasonable, and rational.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And now he's like, he came out when it came to the Covington kids. He made a video where he was wrong. Then when it came, there's other instances, but now it's like Charlie Kirk says something that people think is stupid, and I'm like, who cares? Whatever. I don't know if Charlie Kirk would say whatever he wants. It's got no bearing on the Olympics. Some guy had an opinion. Great.
Starting point is 01:07:11 And then I criticized Phil because he tweeted like you're a whatever and was insulting him. But then I saw today he was like, we're back, and it's a thumbnail. And not only is he talking about Charlie Kirk, which is fine, but he does this meme where they shrink charlie kirk's face which i'll admit great meme it's really funny like the the joke is that every time charlie makes a point his face shrinks or something memes are great you know by all means make fun of him and ben and everybody else and me and you know who i don't care but like why would someone who is known for being a like straight shooter news personality all of a sudden be playing tribal politics and just insulting someone for content this is cultural decay yeah when you can see it's infecting everything the new york times has become this our mainstream news apparatus has
Starting point is 01:07:54 completely become crap all over people and find whatever reason to hate somebody for tribal points and then even now i mean youtube is built on this basically. Drama channels. And then here you go. This is it. Our entire news media is now just who can I crap on for clicks? Yeah. Strife sells. I mean, that's like it's popular. I find myself like sometimes clicking on a headline of like two celebrities I've never even heard of to be like this celebrity and this celebrity are like beefing and like, oh, what are they fighting about?
Starting point is 01:08:23 Like what happened? Like I don't even know them. I don't even know who they are. I'll do that. And then I'll like, I'll see it. I'll be like, ah, I'll click it. I'll X out really fast. And I hope the algorithm didn't catch that.
Starting point is 01:08:34 But it did. Of course. It knows I clicked. Apparently, you know, people were commenting the other day that some leftist channel like made a video about me like an expose. And I'm like, dude, it's like the 80th expose. Who cares? I just ignore all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:47 And then there's like, you know, people messaging me right now because there's another hit piece coming. It's a big one, I guess. And I'm like, I literally don't care. Like,
Starting point is 01:08:55 I just, I'm not going to make videos about this stuff. I don't, I don't care about myself enough to engage in, in, you know, interpersonal conflict on YouTube or to be like, oh, Charlie Kirk said this.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Now, like AOC, she's in Congress with 12 million or whatever followers, and she's extremely prominent and influential. She's a politician. CEOs, politicians, and to an extent, many personalities, I think it's fair game. But when it's like people just doing drama to bicker with each other and news outlets being like we're gonna write garbage fake trash to like try and get somebody i'm like you know what there's a rock i can crawl under and just you know dig a hole and play video games the rest of my life that was interesting you said how that you could get a biden supporter put on a mega hat if you
Starting point is 01:09:38 paid him a million bucks and well i was i was being everybody when i said you couldn't but but you're kind of right that if you bribe people, they will change their political ideology. And the problem is Biden has his finger on the money printer. So he's bribing everyone right now. Go burr. Yeah, go burr. And are they unloading too? I don't think – maybe a million dollars would get a Biden voter to put on a MAGA hat.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Fifty. You could probably get tons of Biden supporters to put on MAGA hats for 50 bucks. They don't have loyalty to that guy. No, no. But they are scared of looking like Republicans. Yeah. You get that picture circulates. You lose everything.
Starting point is 01:10:15 They think it's a Klan hat. They'll be like, no way, dude. Yeah, it's like, tell them this. Put the hat on. I'll take a picture of it, and I'll give you $50,000. They'd probably say no. And I'm not kidding. Maybe that's a good idea for a Man Put the hat on. I'll take a picture of it, and I'll give you $50,000. They'd probably say no, and I'm not kidding. Maybe that's a good idea for a Men in the Street video. We'll go to New York and be like, how do you feel about Trump?
Starting point is 01:10:30 No, $50,000 is still too much. I think you have to go for $50. $50 is sort of like, it's a one-second thing. Or just see how little people really care. Yeah, $50,000, I mean, I put on like, I can't even know what I put on for $50,000. I put on like I can't even know what I put on. Yeah, that's a lot. I put on two masks. But I mean, like, obviously, there's regular people who voted who don't really care all that much.
Starting point is 01:10:57 But I mean, like, look at look at what David Hogg said about wearing masks, where he's like, I'm going to keep wearing because I don't want people to think I'm a Republican. It's like, wow, what? I live in like the super leftist area where I mean, masks were absolutely like, you know, a signal that I belong. I'm part'm part of this group if you're not wearing one you're not part of the group and it's important to people to be part of the group so you know yeah maybe fifty thousand dollars a lot of money it's too much it's too much you gotta like do like a hundred bucks like this here's a hundred dollars like they'd say put on this hat no they i think you get a lot of yeses yeah really well they'd put it on. On camera.
Starting point is 01:11:26 We're filming it. Yeah, I think $100 would do it. Wow. I mean, people are about to get the shot. That's a good idea. They deferred for so long. The vaccines have been out for months and months, but now they're going to get it for the $100. But what I mean is when you look at those polled who are Democrats and their 90% approval
Starting point is 01:11:44 for Joe Biden, those are the kind of people I think would be like never. Regular people on the street. Regular people on the street would do it. Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course. I mean like the partisans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:54 My neighborhood would be tough. Park Slope would be. Because they're also rich. You told somebody, I'll give you $100 to wear the MAGA hat and we're going to film you. I got a feeling they're going to say no. Yeah. No, it would have to be be regular people on the street. How about a college campus?
Starting point is 01:12:08 That's really tough. Because they want the money, but boy would they get in trouble if that photo goes around. What are they going to say? They paid me to wear it. They'll be like, what? You took money to wear that thing? What? You Nazi. I do think money talks. I'm willing to bet
Starting point is 01:12:22 that you could find a moderate left or right personality, offer them enough money, and they'll flip sides instantly. Right. It's the whole, you know, you offer enough money and people will do it. But I think for $50,000, everybody does it. Yeah. Yeah. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:12:38 $10,000, everybody does it. I think so, too. No, I don't know about everybody. I think everybody does. A photo of you wearing that hat. You will never get hired in your city. Your friends will be like, what is this? And you'll try claiming.
Starting point is 01:12:50 50K. But they paid me to do it. They paid me a lot of money to do it. They'll be like, you took money to support Donald Trump? How dare you? I mean, look, you see what some people get canceled for. I'm not convinced. People on the street would do a lot for a klondike bar you know
Starting point is 01:13:06 what i mean so sure yeah you should offer just the klondike wire what was that that's we should actually get money no i want to do this i want to melting i want to i want to go out on the street and i want to go to you know what would be funny we're in an area that's very trumpy i'll go in there and ask people to wear a biden hat like, how much for you to wear this Biden hat? I'll take a picture of you. You know what would happen? Every single conservative would be like, how much money do you want? Yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Right. You know why? I don't care. Again, melty Klondike bar. Well, no, it's like you find a guy with a MAGA hat and you say, bro, I got 50 bucks for you to wear this Biden hat. He'll be like, put it on and be like, are we good? All right, thanks.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Have a nice day. Because they don't care. No one's going to come after them for wearing a Biden hat. Trump had on the other hand. There's acceptable opinions and there's unacceptable opinions. It would be hilarious when the Trump supporter is like, his friend walks up and he's like, I just saw a picture of you in a Biden hat. And he's going to be like, they gave me 50 bucks. Let's go get some beers. No one will care.
Starting point is 01:14:03 No one will care. No one will care. In fact, interestingly, there's a phenomenon where urban centers, even in red states, are very pro-Democrat and very critical race theory and all that stuff. That's the craziest thing to me. Yeah. It is really crazy. Like, to hear about that in, like, Tulsa and other places like that. Yeah. Austin.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Yeah. Even in West Virginia. We'll drive through some areas and we'll see, like, the new pride flags and stuff like that. And I'm like, wow, in West Virginia, huh'll drive through some areas and we'll see like the new pride flags and stuff like that. And I'm like, wow, in West Virginia, huh? But not everybody. You still, if you go to urban areas, you tend to see it. But West Virginia is like the second most Trump supporting state. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:35 So they're all, yeah, you got crazy things to say about a lot of crazy things. I believe it. Yeah. I'm sometimes like, I would not want to have a conversation, you know. But there are a lot of, where we are, there's a lot of rich Democrat people from D.C. who move out here because freedom. Right. People like the freedom.
Starting point is 01:14:53 That's what happens. Nobody wants to live in D.C. There's mask mandates. Right. Nobody wants to live in Maryland. They're very restrictive and for a while restrictions as well. Now they can drive about an hour and a half, be in West Virginia. There's a funny thing
Starting point is 01:15:06 because in the area where I actually live, they say that they can all tell who the D.C. transplants are because they'll be like, someone left their garbage at Raccoons Came and they'll be like, and? They're like, welcome to the mountain. And they'll be like, there was a bear the other day. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:15:21 oh, how many? Just one? Then there's gunshots going off and then people are posting online like, why are there gunshots? And they'll complain and they'll come out and be like, there was a bear the other day. And they're like, oh, how many? Just one? Then there's like gunshots going off. And then people are posting online like, why are there gunshots? And they'll complain. And they'll come out and be like, you know, I'm wondering why it's happening. And they're like, people shoot all the time. There's like a range right down the road. What do you expect?
Starting point is 01:15:36 It's crazy. There are people who live within like a few minutes of walking. There's like an open range in the mountain. And there's like a house right there. There's a bunch of houses. And you just like walk for about 10 minutes. And then you're at a shooting range. And the people just live right there shooting every day nonstop. and there's like a house right there there's a bunch of houses and you just like walk for about 10 minutes and then you're at a shooting range and the people just live right there shooting every day non-stop and there's hunting yeah yeah so these these these uh urban liberals you don't want to stay away man because it's a bunch of gun right job with guns
Starting point is 01:15:57 and bears yes and bears we really need to spread out it's so important i kept thinking when i was like a kid like 10 12, oh, we'll just build magnetic trains from small village to small village and renegotiate our infrastructure. Instead of big cities, we'll have lots of little ones all interconnected. Where's the magnetic trains, guys? What about like cities
Starting point is 01:16:18 that are concentric circles run by supercomputers? All right. That sounds like Burning Man. Minus the computer, I guess. We don't have a collective cultural mission. It's so weird. Maybe because our technology's been suppressed
Starting point is 01:16:35 for so long by the electric grid. They want to keep those copper wires pumping electricity and making their money off of their copper pipes. We have no competition, bro. That's the problem. The copper industry. We went to the moon because we were like, Russia, what up? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Soviet Union. We're going to go to the moon. So the U.S. had been losing every element of the space race. Sputnik launched first. They put a dog in space. And the U.S. was like, every step of the way, we're behind. Let's go big. And so I think the only thing the U.S. actually won was getting to the moon because they were like, well, we can't win all of these things.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Let's just. So they rallied everybody. They made it the mission. Everybody was cheering. They were like, yeah. And at the same time, there was still a bunch of crazy stuff going on outside of that. You know, protests, conflict. Trump was giving a speech and he said that we'll be the first country to put a man on Mars.
Starting point is 01:17:23 And I didn't believe him. It was like it just I just heard it, and I was like, you blowhard. Like, you know, prove it. Prove it. I don't believe you anymore. And I know that the corporations are more effective at getting people into space than the American government. If you look at the last year of activity. So I just have no faith in that industry.
Starting point is 01:17:44 What's the mission called? we're going to build a colony on the moon first and then from the moon we launch to go to mars project artemis yeah artemis there you go well you want to know why it's never going to happen ian what going to mars yeah i'm gonna blame the media do it check out this check out the story we got new npr ethics policy it's okay for journalists to demonstrate sometimes Sometimes. You know why? I'm willing to bet they changed that headline. They say NPR rolled out a substantial update to its ethics policies
Starting point is 01:18:12 earlier this month, expressly stating that journalists may participate in activities that advocate for the freedom and dignity of human beings on both social media and real life. The new policy eliminates the blanket prohibition from participating in marches, rallies, and public events, as well as vague language that directed NPR journalists to avoid personally
Starting point is 01:18:30 advocating for controversial or polarizing issues. This policy will change the moment an NPR employee comes out with a Gadsden flag preaching to end the lockdowns. They're going to be like, not that freedom and dignity. That's fascism. That's the thing. I think every activist thinks that they're involved in the pursuit of freedom and dignity. That's fascism. That's the thing. I think every activist thinks that they're involved in the pursuit of freedom and dignity. I think NPR really hasn't thought this one through because the first – even a pro-Cuban activist, I can't see NPR being okay with that.
Starting point is 01:18:58 That's a good point. Yeah. Well, they say that the new policy reads NPR editorial staff may express support for democratic civic values that are core to NPR's work, such as but not limited to the freedom and dignity of human beings, the rights of a free and independent press, the right to thrive in society without facing discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual identity, disability, or religion. What was the first one? The first one was the rights of, I'm sorry, the freedom and dignity of human beings. Including unborn human beings? Oh, no, of course not. Good question.
Starting point is 01:19:31 The rights of free and independent press. So you can protest in support of Infowars? Yeah, Julian Assange. Yeah, yeah. Is it okay to march in a demonstration and say Black Lives Matter? What about a pride parade? In theory, the answer today is yes,
Starting point is 01:19:43 but in practice, NPR journalists will have to discuss specific decisions with their bosses, who in turn will have to ask a lot of questions. The carve-out is somewhat narrow. Protests organized with the purpose of demanding equal and fair treatment of people are now permitted, as long as the journalist asking is not covering that event. However, rallies organized to support a specific piece of legislation would be off-limits. Other events featuring a slate of political candidates from one party are also out of bounds. From one party? Are we saying that
Starting point is 01:20:08 there were no NPR reporters at, like, the Pink Hat March in 2016? Of course there were. Like, come on. Yeah. Lots of them, actually. In fact, I know
Starting point is 01:20:18 a lot of NPR people are activists. Like, they're all activists. New York, the whole media apparatus in New York, New York's a different country at this point. I don't even know what's going on in New York.
Starting point is 01:20:27 The media ecosystem in New York is insane. Yeah. You're on an island. Yeah. New York Post. You guys are. Yeah. They censor you.
Starting point is 01:20:35 They block your stories. Yes. And then, like, it's really cabal-y. You're familiar with the journo lists? Of course. Yeah. So for those that aren't familiar, New York journalists had this, and they probably still do, lists of where, message boards basically, where they all communicate and share stories
Starting point is 01:20:51 and all believe the same things. And it's basically like there's no competition in media because all the news outlets are in the same place. Right. Even Fox News is. But the joke with journalists is like they were sharing opinions and like people were like, journalists have opinions? Like, come on. Like, why don't we just be honest about it? Like, why doesn't everybody just speak their bias and like people were like, journalists have opinions? Like, come on.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Like, why don't we just be honest about it? Like, why doesn't everybody just speak their bias and like get it over with? We all know that everybody's biased. Like, there's no such thing as somebody who like has no predisposed opinions.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Like, just get it out there. Yeah, but to be- Maybe this whole thing is over with like, you know. Yes. Like journalism being no opinions. To be a public figure and your goal is just to report, but then to use that position to assert, that's where the problem arises if you're just trying to be a journalist.
Starting point is 01:21:31 And I think you're right. Maybe it's just over. It's over. Yeah. It's propagandistic warfare at this point. Right. That's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:38 I mean, I saw somebody yesterday. I shared a tweet and they were quoting NBC News, but because the guy I shared it from, it was Robbie Starbuck? Starbuck, yeah. Starbuck, yeah. So somebody was like,
Starting point is 01:21:52 I can't take you seriously when you share Robbie Starbuck. But he was like literally just quoting NBC News. He had clipped the article, but it was like, no, I can't. I cannot even,
Starting point is 01:22:00 cannot use his copy and paste. I cannot have his, you know, fingerprints on this. And it's just so tribal that we can't even believe a news source when somebody we don't like shares it. Yeah, we're at a point where the hyperpolarization is so intense, I don't think the news is relevant anymore. People will scan the news and be like, don't care if that's true, don't care if that's true. This one kind of screws me if it's true, so I'll ignore it.
Starting point is 01:22:27 And this one, perfect. Let me tweet that. Yeah. And that's it. And then I don't know where we end up. My thing is get out of the cities. Don't sit around. They're taking time bombs.
Starting point is 01:22:41 They're going to lock down everything again. Miami's doing well. Yeah, that's true. They have a really good mayor. Yep. Miami's doing well. Yeah, that's true. They have a really good mayor. Yep. Miami's doing well. Florida in general. Texas. So maybe it's...
Starting point is 01:22:49 If you live in a blue state, stay there. Yeah, there you go. You know NPR's... Don't come out here. NPR's private company? Yeah. They call it public radio, but it's funded by private money. 2% of their revenue comes from public grants from, I think, the Department of Commerce
Starting point is 01:23:02 and the Department of Education. We actually pulled this up before the show. Yeah, I think that is. A lot of people keep saying, it's my tax dollar. It's like, a little from, I think, the Department of Commerce and the Department of Education. We actually pulled this up before the show. A lot of people keep saying, it's my tax dollars. It's like, a little bit, I guess. But, you know, sure, it is your tax dollars to a certain degree. Yeah, NPR is a lefty, progressive media outlet. Jimmy Dore was telling Joe Rogan about this when he was on his show, and I was thinking, yeah, Joe actually said, well, they should have to change their name. Yeah, I was just about to say that.
Starting point is 01:23:24 It's not public radio. And, like, Federal Express had to change their name. Yeah, I was just about to say that. It's not public radio. And like Federal Express had to change it. It's not federal. The Federal Reserve is not federal. Federal Express? They had to change it to FedEx. Yeah. I don't know if they had to, but they did in like the 90s.
Starting point is 01:23:35 It used to be called Federal Express. It still is Federal Express. It's FedEx now. Really? Yeah, they officially changed it, yeah. I think that is scandalous that you could call it public or federal if it's not. It is not Federal Express. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah. I don't know scandalous that you could call it public or federal if it's not. It is not federal.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Wow, I didn't know that. I don't know if they did it to avoid a lawsuit or what, but I'm glad they did. Even the word fed is a little misleading. Yeah. Why did they change their name? I would like to know. I'm wondering. Somebody told me that every time a company changed their name, like Dairy Queen changed their name to DQ and KFC changed their name to KFC. There's a reason they do it.
Starting point is 01:24:07 There's always a reason. Yeah, Kentucky Fried Chicken, they didn't actually have enough chicken, right? Oh, really? I thought it was because fried chicken, it was like health consciousness had increased. Yeah, I'm not sure about that. Fried chicken was out. Maybe that's more. I don't think they were forced to change their name from Federal Express to FedEx.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Yeah, I don't remember it ever being forced. I just think it happened in the 90s or something. Fact check. Yeah, it was 2000. They rebrand Federal Express to FedEx. I don't remember it ever being forced. It happened in the 90s or something. Yeah, it was 2000. They rebranded everything to FedEx. And all the planes and everything was changed. Yeah, maybe it was. I don't know. I would like to see that put into law, that you can't call your company federal.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Because I was like, could I make a company called Federal National Broadcast Corporation and sell t-shirts? I don't know if i can is that legal it shouldn't be legal didn't the postal service sue the band of the postal service oh i don't know oh yeah that's ridiculous because they're entities who have branding and names and stuff like that that may have happened i'm not sure the postal service is a big deal they thought ben franklin was like the first postmaster general and that was a national company. Now we have UPS, we have
Starting point is 01:25:05 Amazon is like our national shipping agency right now, and it's a corporation. We really need a national shipping organization. I don't know. We need more of those, but I don't like the government having a monopoly on that stuff either.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Can we just go to Mars already? Can Joe Biden come out and be like, I'm going to scrap everything in the budget bill and we're just going to spend it all on Mars? I'd be like, all right. There we go. I'm down. Let's print that money. I'm bored. Somebody slip that idea to him right before he goes on and you have a good shot of it.
Starting point is 01:25:39 You know what? Can we sneak index cards to Biden? Yeah. So it's like he's handed the cards. Like we do this Ocean's Eleven style thing where the cards get switched. And then he's like, we're going to go to Mars. Yeah. That's it.
Starting point is 01:25:54 I'm done. Yay. You can probably pull it off. I'd be like, I don't care about the culture war stuff. You would do it. They're saying the same thing yesterday. They're saying today. It's just getting noisier and noisier and more confusing.
Starting point is 01:26:04 Let's just go to Mars. We'll just go. Let's do it. We'll send a bunch of supplies first. Do we nuke the poles? Is that the best option right now? Nuke the poles of Mars? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:14 I don't know if that's true. No, Mars doesn't have the mass to sustain life in any meaningful way. Unless we build bases. And the issue is that we'd have to build a massive we'd have we'd have to be able to build and we have to be able to refine fuels and build rockets to get off the planet in the first place so it's like mostly a one-way trip but then you'd have to live in in bunkers forever because of radiation and because of there's no atmosphere and there's no magnetosphere to protect from the maybe we should consider this whole. Let's do some other stuff first.
Starting point is 01:26:46 All right, all right, all right. Here's my other idea. Let's find an Earth-like exoplanet and just go for it. Yeah. All right. That's it. I mean, that sounds better than your, you know, living in hell. Yeah, it'll take too long.
Starting point is 01:26:57 Can we build a Stargate or something? Yeah, let's go. Can we find one? Yes, let's find one. What a good show. Sure, yeah. I think you could super accelerate through black holes, through those, what are they called, charged black holes?
Starting point is 01:27:08 They have a double event horizon. I think you can super accelerate through them to another star. You want to know the sad reality? If there is life out there that travels the stars and they have massive ships that can travel faster than light and all that stuff, we are but humble chickens on the earth. They look at us like like nothing you know i'm thinking about like when i watch the chickens go do their chicken business and they're like walking
Starting point is 01:27:30 around making little weird noises and they went into our garden bed where we have the basil and they started digging because they like to do these dirt baths and they uprooted the basil and i'm like so we got to repot them but you look at them doing that and we laugh like look at them they're so dumb they're rolling around in dirt and then i'm imagining like i'm sitting here like you're working on the computer and like reading up stories and imagining like some interstellar ultra intelligent species be like look at them they're like trying to read information but they go so slow they can barely understand what's going on in their own world do you see the the meme that was like what if ufos are just other uh. They probably are.
Starting point is 01:28:06 They probably would be. I mean, it's not going to be the, well, I don't know. It's assuming there's wealth and that kind of stuff on other planets. Yeah. You know, we can barely leave our own planet. Yeah. It's like we go to the moon 70, whatever year, 60 something years ago, and we're like, yay. We went from the blue one to the little one, and that's as far as we've gone.
Starting point is 01:28:25 But I mean, nobody else has gone. There's only one flag on the moon. I mean, at least we're still number one, you know? That's true. Yeah. For now. Like, we're not that great compared to then, but we're still better than everybody else. Yeah, we need to, I don't know, we need, like, how do we have that big scientific breakthrough?
Starting point is 01:28:40 Yeah. You know, rocketry was amazing. How do we get that anti-grav, man? How do we get that, you know, faster than light travel? Maybe it's not possible. Maybe we're trapped here forever. It's possible. We need to mathematically prove it first. That's why Einstein's E equals MC squared was so revolutionary,
Starting point is 01:28:55 because he simplified the mathematics that showed, I don't know, what is that? The speed of light equals mass squared. Energy equals the mass times velocity. Yeah, the mass squared times the speed of light equals mass squared. Energy equals the mass times velocity. Yeah, the mass squared times the speed of light. And he basically, I don't know, created like a density of energy or something. But he did it simply. So if we can show that you can get more energy out of a system than you put into it. Like for 150 years they've been quoting these ancient laws, like Newton laws, that are like,
Starting point is 01:29:24 say, you can't get more energy out of a system than you put in see that's how how you get water out of wells and they're like using these old theories but if we can rewrite physics mathematically then people will accept it then the technology will start to become accepted you know you don't be you don't be cool i was gonna say i don't think we're around for any of that but yeah what if like one day some dude's just chilling and then he accidentally like sneezes and farts at the same time and it pulls up the console commands and then he's like,
Starting point is 01:29:49 he sees this like, you know, what is that little thing called the indicator when it's blinking on the screen or whatever? And then he's like, and then appears and he's like, search item list 1 through 100 and then all of a sudden
Starting point is 01:30:02 a bunch of words. He's like, oh! And then he just starts like manipulating, you know console console commands i write video games yeah yeah like when you play like fall forward slash forward slash c you could do like you know set character health and then he's just like whoa and then he's like set player size 1000 he's like and then all of a sudden he says i'm dude just destroying reality with console commands i'd actually welcome that. I'd be like, hey, at least something's happening, I guess.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Because other than that, it's just same old thing every single day with the insanity and the absurdity and no one does anything. Like we get the Republicans being like, we refuse to wear masks. And I'm like, oh, we did this last year. Like, here we go again. It's crazy that this is like we have the Internet and it's so amazing. And like we should be so wowed by it every day. And we use it to argue with like doofuses on Twitter. At least I do.
Starting point is 01:30:48 For sure. I restrain myself so hard. It's such a time suck. I can't even tell you. Even to you and Chris, I can't. I can't bring myself to talk to you guys on Twitter. Oh, you saw that tweet? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:58 It's just text. We're talking about censorship and stuff. Ian thinks that piracy isn't theft. And my brother got mad because he made a video that went viral and was pirated over a billion times. Literally a billion times. And his face isn't in the video. So when it got pirated, he got no credit for it.
Starting point is 01:31:15 And in fact, it took the money away from his actual revenue source, which was the video on his YouTube channel. And then he started trying to go after people who are stealing it. They're putting it in TV shows or whatever. A billion views. That's crazy. That's a lot of money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:28 And he got zero for it because it was stolen. And the funny thing is the video is like years and years old. You may have seen it. It is a van and then it says
Starting point is 01:31:37 actual police footage and a hand reaches out. It's being pulled over by a cop. You hear the police chatter and then there's a baggie attached to balloons and he releases the balloons and it says, how to your stash and then the cop runs out so it's
Starting point is 01:31:48 firing it's really fake but because his his face isn't in the video he gets no credit for it what do you do watermark videos and stuff you can it's impossible so if you the assumption that you had Ian was that someone's going to earn recognition because it's a picture of their face and their name but a lot of people produce music with no words. So there's no singing. It's just a song. Oh, and then they just download it and then they don't know who made it or where it came from and it goes viral and then the people who made it.
Starting point is 01:32:14 Really good example. Who is that guy, Rusty Cage? He has the knife song. He did a video where he took a knife and he was doing the knife game with your fingers and he sang he's like i forgot how the song goes like na na na na na na na na na na yeah and then what happened was some rapper used that line and then on tic tac the song went crazy viral
Starting point is 01:32:38 with for someone else who had basically taken what he had written on tiktok yeah it went viral because uh someone took the song and then remade it the melody and everything but put it in their own song and then he didn't get any credit for it it was just basically taken from him and then the other guy gets to go viral for it so yeah that's the problem of i mean i guess that's just general copyright infringement yeah but the piracy was people taking my brother's videos and then re-uploading it all across their own channels and just publishing it and sharing it and doing whatever
Starting point is 01:33:06 they want with it. Yeah. I don't like when people, what do you call it, impersonate, like take credit for your work. I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:33:13 That's bad actually, very bad. But what about if you write a song and then everyone starts downloading it and they don't know who wrote it
Starting point is 01:33:20 or where it came from? That's a problem. Yeah. That's the problem with someone trying to run it. So the funny thing is, the reason Chris got mad about that is he dedicated a lot of time and energy. He got a car. They got props.
Starting point is 01:33:32 They bought all this stuff. They produced it. He got nothing for it. And then he was eventually like, I can't afford to do this anymore. We should play the video someday. Give him his due credit. We spent money to make this video. It was taken.
Starting point is 01:33:44 The success of the video was robbed from us. And we just generally lost money. So now there's no more videos. we spent money to make this video it was taken like the success of the video was robbed from us and we just generally lost money so now there's no more videos otherwise there could have been way more time to rectify Chris Poole time for super chats it is time for super chats if you haven't already give us a like smash that like button subscribe to this channel go to timcast.com
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Starting point is 01:34:49 There are spooky stories. There's unexplained mysteries. There's creepy science experiments. It's just like the dark underbelly of the world. That's what we're going for with it. So we're working on the design, the branding. We've got a cool team, and the articles are fantastic. Go to TimCast.com.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Check out the articles from Shane. He just put one up about the simulation theory. He's got one about birds disappearing. So he's writing these stories, and they're incredible stories. And then we're going to actually make a podcast show with sound effects. And then we're going to have the members version. It's us talking about these crazy things. So like simulation theory, DMT, all that.
Starting point is 01:35:24 True crime, that stuff. You can find a lot of Shane's earlier work. I think it's under the name of Cassandra, his early stuff, isn't it? No, no, it's all Shane. Oh, it is? So if you search Shane, you'll find it. Oh, no, it might have been published because he didn't have a byline. No, I think it's all Shane.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I thought he didn't have an account for a while, so some of it was coming through on Cassandra. I think that's probably all fixed by now. Okay, good. And we're going to be creating its own dedicated channel page. So when you click the channel, you'll see all the articles. And then we're going to put the videos in.
Starting point is 01:35:50 It's going to be a blast. Goatman Jack says, if Ian doesn't dress up as a pirate for Halloween, I will be most disappointed. Oh, yeah. Maybe. That's right.
Starting point is 01:35:57 That's a good idea. All right. Audra Lynn says, hey, Tim, my brother Duck was just promoted to the rank of Master Sergeant in the USAF. Could you and the crew please congratulate him for his hard-earned achievement? Thanks.
Starting point is 01:36:11 That's awesome. Congrats. Congrats, Duck. And if you make Colonel, let me know if they let you into the Stargate program, because I'd love to see what O'Neill and Carter up to. I'm just kidding. Flimsy Fox says, Hey Tim, as you might be able to tell my profile picture, I am a furry.
Starting point is 01:36:26 I want to expand my influence in the community. However, it's completely taken over by authoritarians. How do I navigate this? Honestly, I have no idea how to navigate the furry community, unfortunately. Furry authoritarian. Yeah, there's actually like, there's like some articles about like furry Nazis or something.
Starting point is 01:36:42 Is that real? What is happening? That's an old one though, so I don't even know what a simulation marble 755 says the country is so split perhaps another catastrophic catastrophic event needs to happen like how the u.s came together during the events of world war ii with pearl harbor some say january 6th was that event definitely not that divides the country severely but i believe it was the Project for a New American Century who claimed that we need a new Pearl Harbor, and it's a horrifying statement in my opinion. But also 9-11 didn't last. It was like, brief
Starting point is 01:37:12 are coming together. Yeah, we ended up doing bad things. The internet kind of blew the weapons of mass destruction thing out of the water and tainted that whole unification. Yeah. Alright, Foxdie says, or Foxdie,
Starting point is 01:37:27 Thank you for your great service, Tim. I really think you should consider talking to Ed Snowden. He's an innovator in the free speech press movement and would educate you from his POV how government sees control. Yeah, that'd be great. I guess the one challenge is we never do remotes. We're actually not built for it. Maybe when we do the new studio,
Starting point is 01:37:42 we might actually accommodate that. But I still very much want people to be in studio. It's infinitely better when you have someone in front of you. But maybe we'll actually, we actually don't have any of that infrastructure built to do any kind of remote conversation because we didn't want to. We specifically were like, nah, we don't want to do that. So, all right, let's see. Butters Oregano says, Ian, I'm glad you're feeling better. Digital piracy is theft, and your denial of this leaves me speechless. Like Michael Knowles recently released book Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds. Someone told me that them calling it piracy enables the FBI to go after people with piracy laws, old piracy laws. Like Mark and Reprisal.
Starting point is 01:38:20 Yeah, like hardcore pirate. So I didn't follow up on that. But if that's the case, that's terrifying. Because real pirates go around and steal loot and kill people. So that's not what copying information is. All right, let's see. Heathen says, Tim, I'm off topic, but when are you going to start harvesting the deer eating your apples? They are delicious. I don't know if we're allowed to kill the deer.
Starting point is 01:38:46 I don't know those rules. Someone told me that if they're on your property and they're coming right for you, you can. Self-defense? I was told turkeys are fair game, but deer might be different. So there's a couple babies. There's four that come here all the time. There's one I think might be a younger dude. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:39:05 But there's a mom with her two babies. And they come in and they mill about. But they don't like, we got the mineral blocks. They don't want them. Deer walked right up,
Starting point is 01:39:13 sniffed it, sniffed it again, walked away. And I was like, but it's apple scented mineral block. What's going on? I guess they didn't want it.
Starting point is 01:39:21 Yeah. Spoiled deer. Yep. I wonder where they're going getting good stuff. Scott James Pilkington says, Jaffa Cree, Timcast crew and greetings from New Zealand. I just want to say thanks for all the awesome work you guys are doing. And there's a survival book lot on Humble Bundle at the moment that looks to be good value.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Peace. And for those that aren't familiar, Jaffa Cree is a Stargate reference. It was funny when I was doing all the Star Trek references. There was like all the Star Trek stuff. And then someone was like, Tim, watch Stargate. And I was like, okay. And now it's all Stargate reference. It was funny when I was doing all the Star Trek references. It was like all the Star Trek stuff, and then someone was like, Tim, watch Stargate, and I was like, okay, and now it's all Stargate references. Hey, shout out to HumbleBundle.com. I've been using it for about seven years every month.
Starting point is 01:39:53 You can spend like $10 a month or $12 a month and get like 12 free video games or spend a dollar on a package and get five games. It's amazing. Old Man New to Trading says, Hey Tim, Bannon is right in regards to schools. I just got an email regarding vaccines and masks, Charles County, Maryland.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Yeah, all these schools are going to be sending out these messages to parents who are going to be like, I need my kids in school. And they're going to be like, and they're going to lose it. I hope you're right. I don't know. They didn't lose it last summer is the issue right. Me too. Well, I don't know. Possibly, yeah. They didn't lose it last summer
Starting point is 01:40:25 is the issue here. Yeah, it's been longer. Yeah. I don't know. I just thought by last summer when schools wouldn't open, parents would like, you know, lose it, but they didn't.
Starting point is 01:40:36 All right. So I see a couple people saying this. Blaze Kaiser says, someone in Albania leaked Pfizer's contract and it's crazy. I will have to look into that. William Carlos says, Tim, you should reprint some old articles from the 90s and 2000s so the new generations can see who these career politicians really are.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Also, please check out the pitch from I won't read your email, but we'll look into it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, just pulling up old Joe Biden videos is is effective. Danny Douglas says U.S. Navy just restarted the full mask mandates. I almost put my fist through a wall.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Got basically forced into the vaccine to be able to work without the mask. Can't get out until I finish my contract in 2024. They told everybody,
Starting point is 01:41:16 you know, they were like, oh, is this what you got to do? DeSantis said, get the vaccine, we're back open. And then he opened up.
Starting point is 01:41:21 He kept his promise. He did, yeah. All right. Lipool of Death Gaming says, as a cancer survivor, I cannot get the vaccine. We're back open. And then he opened up. He kept his promise. He did, yeah. All right. Lipool of Death Gaming says, As a cancer survivor, I cannot get the vaccine as the PEG component I've had before, and it resulted in hospitalization for a month and pancreatitis. There you go. That's not cool.
Starting point is 01:41:40 So, yeah, hopefully they're going to have legitimate medical exemptions that are a little bit more broad. I guess not perfect, but, yeah. Talk to your doctor. All right, let's see. What is this? You know what? I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 01:41:56 Someone's mentioning an ailment their family has. I can't. I don't know what that is, so I'm going to avoid it because I don't know what to say. I can't. Yeah. Let's see paranormal underground says eric finman recently agreed on twitter to debate the huntsman a senior fellow at security studies group and china supply chain expert on the freedom phone get huntsman on please
Starting point is 01:42:15 interesting we'll yeah we'll take a look so jason d says ibuprofen is acetaminophen. Also, there was a festival for asbestos back in the day where they, a wicker man out of asbestos, to show off. They made one. Wow. Wow. Is ibuprofen acetaminophen? I'm looking that up. I do not believe that it's true. Yeah, I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 01:42:37 I think ibuprofen is ibuprofen. And acetaminophen is acetaminophen because acetaminophen operates under a brand name. And there's a different brand name for ibuprofen. They're not the same thing. Yeah, they are not the same. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. I will not say those brand names.
Starting point is 01:42:57 All right, let's see what we got. Oh, man. Yeah. Maybe we should save this one for the... Yeah, that's a little too spicy yeah dr sir missus is on twitter a journalist named flora gill said someone needs to create adult content for children oh yeah i saw that what yikes yeah can you repeat that i was reading the ingredients for i don't i don't know if we can repeat that okay and then she deleted it and was like i didn't
Starting point is 01:43:21 mean that i didn't mean it oh no and it, hear me out. It's getting to it. Yeah. I'm not going to. I'm not going to. I will not be hearing you out, lady. What the heck? Crazy conversation, man. Dude.
Starting point is 01:43:31 Yeah. Here we go. Ginger Brown says Nova Vax still to come in fall winter and could provide a solution for a lot of people who remain unvaccinated. No mRNA components, no DNA components, no spike proteins, 90% efficacy and mild side effects so far. Oh, cool. Yeah, I think Johnson & Johnson is not mRNA, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:43:49 That's right. This is the crazy thing when people say they don't want to get the mRNA vaccine. I'm like, Johnson & Johnson. Yeah. And it's still available, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know, man. Ultimately, I'm just like, I don't want to be either convincing or unconvincing.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, because you're not a doctor. Talk to your doctor. I don't want people to be like, I didn't get it convincing or unconvincing. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, because you're not a doctor. Talk to your doctor. I don't want people to be like, I didn't get it. It's your fault. Like, don't come to me for advice. Don't be suing me.
Starting point is 01:44:12 Like, that's what I say about when Joe gave advice. I was like, Joe's allowed to have his opinion for sure. But, you know, don't tell people to go to Fauci either. All right, let's see. Turk Longwell says, I'd like to nominate tim to do aoc in a freedom tunes episode about aoc's big lie in an aoc voice where is she where is she yeah because like you know aoc's story about the cop coming to the door and she's like and there's this bang on the door and then i hear where is she i'm like nobody said come said that. Come on, that's insane.
Starting point is 01:44:45 But you know what's really bothering me about this story? Like, conservatives, you know what, man? They are... I know. AOC's story makes no sense for one reason. She claimed it happened a full hour before the building was breached. Why would she assume people would come to her door a full hour before it even happened? And even when the rioting started 15 minutes after AOC's story occurred,
Starting point is 01:45:12 the people in Congress, like Ted Cruz and Pelosi, had no idea and were totally calm and were not warned and nothing was happening. But what I hear from conservatives, she wasn't even the Capitol building. She never said she was. She said she thought they made it to her door because there's tunnels between the buildings. How about this? She claimed the story happened around 1 p.m. The fighting in front of the Capitol didn't start until 1.15. And the breaching of the Capitol didn't happen until 2.11. She psychic?
Starting point is 01:45:40 Why didn't she warn anybody? Nobody thought it was going to happen. The story was fake. Lies. Yep. All right. Let story was fake. Lies. Yep. All right. Let's see what we got here. Marcus Carter says,
Starting point is 01:45:49 Our nation was designed so that we governed ourselves, but we've handed these roles to the most corrupt among us. We can reclaim our democracy simply by those willing and able running for office and the rest of us supporting them while rejecting the leaders of the past. That's why they don't like Trump and Marjorie taylor green and lauren bobert because they they push back they really love using like the racist and like alt-right and it's just like that doesn't mean anything anymore it's just like the stupidest thing when they called candace owen owens a white supremacist i'm like but she's black people are nuts you know what i don't even i don't even care black rock beacon says dune
Starting point is 01:46:24 once men turned their thinking over to machines in hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. Thou shalt not make a machine the likeness of a human mind. Yes. Great line. Have you guys watched Picard? No. On Paramount?
Starting point is 01:46:40 Spoilers. Basically, there's like a lot of artificial life being created. And then there's a concern that they'll wipe out because they believe they're superior. And then they'll wipe out organic life and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, that's a common concern, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Timmy Silverado says, Tim, Zuby is traveling in the U.S. Are you going to have him on your show? Well, Zuby tweeted yes. Dude, Zuby's a genius, man. No, I'm not even kidding. I see a bunch of tweets from him. There's a reason why his tweets go viral so often. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:13 There's a few things I noticed about several people on the Internet, and it's like something can happen. Something can happen, and you'll see within the tribal hive, they have this perspective on it that's very surface level. And then I'll see something from Zuby where it's like he cracked the core and pulls out this interesting point that no one considered. He had that viral thread where it's like things I learned during COVID about people. And it was like it got 40,000 or tens of thousands of retweets. I'm like, man, we got to have that guy on the show.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Zuby. Smart dude. Indeed he is. Yeah, no joke. It's like there's always something he's putting out i was thinking about that i'm like the zoobie rapper guy's like getting really big how's and then you follow his twitter and you're like oh oh that's why yeah yeah i think i follow him on instagram too all right let's see oh moosey moose says i got an email from friends of desantis a desantis fundraiser talking about covid and gain of fauci research hilarious pun and continuation of desantis's don't fauci my florida shirt
Starting point is 01:48:09 doesn't didn't desantis say we shouldn't have to live under fauciism yep he said i think yesterday right or today i love that love it dude desantis is great i don't know he's not perfect whatever but i love i love you know i appreciate yeah uh's why I'm like, I almost think he should run and not Trump. Because Trump has, he has a thing about him that makes the left naturally, naturally just wince. DeSantis is hard to pin down the same way Trump is. Like, Trump, they just, of course they'll attack DeSantis. They'll make up lie after lie. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:48:44 They'll smear him like crazy. But they're not going to be as effective with it. Trump people know. DeSantis, they're going to be like, who? And the conservatives know DeSantis. And he's saying things like this, which is hilarious. Michael Schrobel says, now that lockdowns are coming back, how long until Cuomo puts more people in nursing homes?
Starting point is 01:49:03 Oh, yeah. I can only imagine soon, right? I mean, it worked last time, right? Okay, let's see what we got here. Cobalt joint replacements. What is this? Come and get it says, after witnessing
Starting point is 01:49:14 cobalt joint replacements firsthand, I will wait a few years as I have lost all trust in the FDA and pharma. They want me to trust them but never admit fault when they are wrong. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Yeah, Fauci-ism is like authoritarian incorrectness. It's when you mandate things and then change them half the time because you think you're right but you're not, which is, you know, I guess what authoritarians do. It's a strategy. Clef the Misfit says, with all due respect, can you please stop wholesale trashing cities? I live in Miami. I am proud of my city. We're pretty laid back and intellectually diverse.
Starting point is 01:49:44 We don't have the issues of leftist cities. Clef, you are 100% correct. I stand corrected and you also mentioned Miami is pretty great. Yeah, I said Miami, right. And you know, Mayor Suarez, he really has something going on. Florida itself. Yeah. It's a little different. Doing pretty well. Free country. But the weather. I love the weather.
Starting point is 01:50:00 It's like. I'm all about that weather. It's like you go outside and it's so humid, you're swimming. You're just like, whoa, it's like living in sludge. I know. I was telling Lydia on the way over here. But like, yeah, that might be true. But it also gets really hot here. In Florida, everybody has a pool.
Starting point is 01:50:13 You have a pool. Your friends have a pool. Everybody has a pool. And you're just like, whose pool should we go to to get away from this weather? But you get two months out of the year to go outside. Like January and February. No, it gets chilly some places January, February. I don't know. I was wearing sweatshirts in Januaryuary february in florida driving on the keys is really fun because like
Starting point is 01:50:30 you're you're it's it's their keys it's not like the road is built over water it's it's real fun when when we lived in miami we had i think it was an egret it like i guess it got attacked or whatever and its beak was broken and it landed and it was stuck in our pool and so we went out and we had to like gently get him out of the pool. But then he couldn't go anywhere, and he was too injured. So we called the bird sanctuary. We were like, what do we do? We got this bird.
Starting point is 01:50:52 It's chilling. It's injured, but we think it's alive. And he was like, well, if the injury is too much, it doesn't matter if it's healthy now. It will die. And so we were like, well, we don't want to kill it. And he was like, like well you shouldn't you should bring it to us and so we drove down to the keys where there was like a bird sanctuary or something and then we were like dropped it off wow but i guess they killed it darn it so close
Starting point is 01:51:15 yeah you know these things happen but at least they tried yeah you know that was cool we called them and they were like we'll see what we can do we'll try to save the bird it was big it's a you know they're big birds yeah yeah and it was, it was walking around and running and we just like. These birds are cool. I'm sad. You can tell me that part of the story. Andrew Gillings says, on leave flying from Okinawa to STL and the flight was oversold. They asked if I would take a different flight.
Starting point is 01:51:37 I said, to Hawaii? They agreed. Called guys I deployed with and we spent the night in a, at a luau. You see, that's what I'm talking about. That's awesome. Yeah. Called guys I deployed with, and we spent the night at a luau. You see, that's what I'm talking about. That's awesome. Yeah. Dude, I've been on flights where they're like, 100 bucks.
Starting point is 01:51:51 At first, they're like, who will volunteer? No one does. 100 bucks to a volunteer? No one does. 200, 400, 800, 1,200. No one did. Then finally, they said, if no one accepts the voucher, we will force someone off the plane, and you will lose your seat, and it could be you. And still, no one would do it.
Starting point is 01:52:05 You got to give out trips to Hawaii. I guess. I guess everybody had to be somewhere. Yeah. I was working and I'm like, I'm here on business. Like I, I'm not getting, I can't, I can't accept that. But think about how desperate they got. You could have been like, give me a first class to Hawaii and I'll take it.
Starting point is 01:52:19 They would have been like done. But it also makes no sense. Cause wouldn't it just be the person that's not sitting down that would lose the seat? Like, why do they need somebody so badly to like switch with that person? Well,
Starting point is 01:52:29 because they have 100 seats but they sold 110. Right, but the 10 that aren't sitting are the ones who are, you know, here's your food voucher. They assign the same seats
Starting point is 01:52:36 to people. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, that happened to me once where I boarded the plane and I went and sat down and then someone came up
Starting point is 01:52:43 and had the same seat as me. Right, but that guy's beat. It's what are you gonna do i got him first yeah you got there first yeah yeah because i always i mean this is a terrible business strategy obviously but i think southwest does that right they tell you just to board and then you just go in and sit down yeah yeah there was this great video i think it's by cgp gray where he talks about how our boarding process makes no sense and it's it's a waste of a ton of it's a great video, I think it's by CGP Grey, where he talks about how our boarding process makes no sense and it's a massive waste of time. Yeah, I've seen it. He was saying, even if we boarded at random, just saying, go on in if you got a ticket, it would be faster than the way we do it now.
Starting point is 01:53:15 Right. But the issue is people don't want to board separately. They want to board with the people they're sitting next to, which makes the whole process cluttered. Also, you get the people, they want to board the front of the plane first. Like section one is the front, then two and three. Totally backwards because then everyone's stuck in the front. People have to wade through the crowd. You want to board the back of the plane first, section one. Then a little one forward, then three, and then the front of the plane last.
Starting point is 01:53:37 No, I think he said you want to do window seats, middle seats, aisle seats. Yeah, that makes sense. Definitely. That's the fastest way to do it. Because what happens is if you do the back of the plane plane then you'll still have people trying to put their bags up yeah and then other people waiting because they got to put their bags in the same bins yeah if you do aisle seats they all go in and then go whoop and then all and then middle rows they all go in at the same time and then right on so if you do it by yeah the problem with that is that
Starting point is 01:54:01 they'll they'll run out of overhead space and then nobody will want to sit in whatever the last one is. So whenever I would travel for work, when working for Vice, it was almost always first class. Not because they pay for it, but because you get upgraded. But it had to be because if I'm carrying a $30,000 camera with me, it has to go in the overhead. It can't be checked. It'll be destroyed. It can't go in a closet. And so it's like I had to be up there standing in the front of the line ready to go in.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Otherwise, you don't get on the plane. Yeah. You can't put the cameras in the, you can't check back cameras. They break them. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Horse Dude says, people who are going to be evicted because they didn't pay rent should
Starting point is 01:54:38 have used that unemployment, the bonus, the COVID relief money. People knew they didn't need to pay a dime from the eviction moratoriums put in place. Yeah, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't have, maybe their unemployment benefits weren't covering the full cost of their rent. Imagine you made six figures and then your business shuts down because of the lockdowns. And then all you get is this unemployment check, which is supplemental. So you're still getting a decent amount, but you can't pay your rent. A couple grand per month and you're is this unemployment check, which is supplemental. So you're still getting a decent amount. Yeah. But you can't pay your rent. A couple grand per month and you're like,
Starting point is 01:55:09 yikes, man, I need a job. Or imagine you were making even more than that. They cap unemployment at a certain level. So the supplemental plus your cap could still not be enough for a lot of people. That's why I was saying when they were doing the stimulus, they were like, we're going to cut people off who make more than X amount of dollars per year. And I was like, that's wrong.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Right. That's like, I don't like the idea of just giving rich people free money. But I also recognize if somebody was making $120K in New York, they're not considered middle class median because New York's cost of living is so high. And they probably had a moderately expensive rent that these stimulus checks will do nothing to help them cover their costs. Yeah. It also makes no sense because they used the figures the year before the pandemic. So people who were living the same life, maybe even better, saving money, staying home, got checks, while people who had made money at a different time did not get the checks.
Starting point is 01:56:00 And it just, yeah, it made no sense. It should have given to people who needed it, but we can't do that. No, that's not what makes makes sense all right let's see woodworker anon says wait so pelosi is in charge of the police of the capital so would she have been in charge of security on the but there was no backup that day did she know it was coming not like she had anything to gain i'm pretty sure it was uh cash patel said he offered they offered what did they offer national. And they turned it down a few days before. And there's that video of the guy
Starting point is 01:56:28 going to the cops saying, why aren't you doing anything about this? Like, where are the police? Not that she's in charge of it, but because she's a Speaker of the House, what's being insinuated is she went to the police and said, this are the rules. The House is saying you have to wear masks. And the cops were like, okay, we'll arrest anybody who doesn't, but not on the Senate side. Because that means
Starting point is 01:56:44 the Senate side didn't make that request. Science. Oh, yeah. Nicholas Gay says, I appreciate a lot of what you do, Tim and gang. Having folks on like Bannon, Schnatter, Pozo, who are vilified by the media, you're able to show how brilliant these individuals are. Leaves me speechless, like Michael Mill's book. Oh, clever. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:03 But you got to realize like we're we're uh we're getting we get smeared by the press it's hilarious and like there's like some hit pieces coming i just ignore it i don't care um next tuesday oh yeah yeah we're confirmed on all this right we are it's gonna be great oh charlie kirk and vosh good yeah so uh there's like this thing happening on twitter where they're like charlie Kurt, you should go debate this like socialist guy. Put your money where your mouth is. And I'm like, but he already he already agreed to do it. We're going to do a show here with Charlie and Vosh.
Starting point is 01:57:32 And Vosh is a socialist and we're going to have that conversation. It'll be a fun time. So I don't think Charlie's scared. He immediately agreed. Well, like it's not so easy to say he immediately agreed in the sense that there's still like business logistics. But when he was here, I was like, hey, man, would you want to come on when we have Vosh on? He was like, yeah. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:57:49 I was like, let's see if we can figure it out. And then we found a date, and then we communicated with both, and they were both really excited and very professional about it. And I imagine it's going to be... Spicy. Good time. It's going to be great. Maybe we'll get...
Starting point is 01:58:02 No, I think it'll be fun. I think a lot of people make assumptions that it's going to be like WWE. And we've had a few different leftist personalities here. Not as many as like right, because it's harder to do. But I think we've had maybe like three or four. Yeah. And it's always fairly normal. You know, it's not crazy.
Starting point is 01:58:20 Destiny was great. He's a smart guy, you know. He is that. In high school, we had the most eclectic group of friends, like super liberal, crazy, super conservative, crazy. We all got along so well because we just liked the same stuff. We liked magic cards and video games and pizza. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Let's go back to that. Finding the same thing is funny. That's got to be top priority. Yeah, exactly. I completely agree. Making the same jokes and memes. Come on, man. Let's go back. Oof. All right, let's see. Okay, we. I completely agree. Making the same jokes and memes. Come on, man. Let's go back.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Oof. All right, let's see. Okay, we read that one. Where are we at? What was I just reading? I don't know. Where were we? Yes.
Starting point is 01:58:52 Rocky says, try offering an ultra-woke celebrity five grand to their favorite leftist cause if they will put on a MAGA hat. Then watch the virtue signal dissonance. It's tough. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Michael Irwin says,
Starting point is 01:59:05 Hey guys, would love to see y'all do the D&D show. Look up Harmon Quest. It's a funny show ran by Dan Harmon and features a different person each show.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Oh, fun. That sounds cool. Rick and Morty's funny. Yeah. Yeah. John Marafa says, NPR equals dash National Propaganda Radio.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Oh. That's right. I can see it. Yep. Joe Harris says, look at the FedEx logo between the E and the X at the arrow. Now you will see it each time. The curse of the arrow. You're welcome.
Starting point is 01:59:35 That was the plan. That's why they did it. That's not that bad. It's okay. I like it. All right. We'll get a couple more in here. Let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Uh-oh. Ethereals says they just put here. Let's see what we got here. Uh-oh. Ethereal says they just put Dave Rubin in Twitter jail. They did, yeah. You know what I was thinking about something? The Brandy Love story. You know the Brandy Love story? I'm not sure. She went to Turning Point USA and they kicked her out.
Starting point is 01:59:59 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. And I'm seeing a lot of people say that like, oh, it's the conservatives are losing an ally. And I'm seeing a lot of people mention that they're like on brandy sentence and they shouldn't have been kicked out. And I'm like, I guess it doesn't matter what your profession is if you're attending an event. Right. But I suppose what they're saying is that she was posting and like promoting and stuff and that she wasn't clarifying. She was just an attendee.
Starting point is 02:00:19 But regardless, it was an event for minors. And then I was thinking about this and I was like I was talking to a friend of mine who was you know talking about it was wrong conservatives should be criticized for this and i was like dave rubin banned porn on locals yeah that's like actually kind of crazy to me because locals are supposed to be your own community with your own rules where you own it you control it and you can't get shut down, but he overtly bans porn. I get it. It's bad for the brand, I suppose. But if Locals is supposed to be like a semi-decentralized node system
Starting point is 02:00:53 where you control your own page, that's not even like hate speech or anything. That's just like adult content. Yeah, but it's just so easy to get into an issue with it. It could be somebody underage. It could be somebody who didn't consent. It's just so easy to get into an issue with it. It could be somebody underage. It could be somebody who didn't consent. It's just too many. But couldn't he just say that if we suspect it of being a violation of the law, we'll remove it, but we allow all other forms of adult entertainment?
Starting point is 02:01:15 I don't think so. I mean, there was the story where Backpage disappeared because they weren't policing the ads on it well sure but you know but dave could say we will police adult content if we believe it breaks the law which we will err on the side of and still allow it yeah it's a brand it's branding to not allow it because you could say like oh we don't ban hate speech we allow people to come in and say whatever they want what if in the event someone actually calls for violence and instructs people yeah you'd have to police that you have'd have to remove it. That's a violation of their rules.
Starting point is 02:01:46 So I'm not saying he's right or wrong to have done it. I'm just saying it's interesting that a lot of libertarian-type individuals were critical of Turning Point USA over this. And I'm like, I don't know. There's a lot of websites that ban this, including locals. It's a big debate. We had it in minds a lot, whether or not the original idea of Bill was like, yeah, we should have anything that's legal. It should be on the site.
Starting point is 02:02:05 You just need to granularly be able to navigate without getting bombarded by porn or violence or whatever or racism. Yeah, but it's just hard to tell what's legal, you know? Exactly, especially with porn. All right, let's see. Let's do this one more. What is this? The TDY says, could mandating vaccines benefit small businesses not run by big
Starting point is 02:02:26 corporations mandating vaccine i could see this taking business from a starbucks and move it to a local coffee business would be funny interesting if the local business if the smaller business says that's you know easy freer and open and the big chains say no then that might actually you know happen but uh we'll see how about this we're going to go over to timCast.com to the members-only segment, which will be up around 11, and talk about the forbidden Wall Street Journal article that YouTube would not permit. But we're going to talk about it. It's very important, among other things. So go to TimCast.com, become a member.
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Starting point is 02:03:07 And Carol, do you want to shout anything out? No. Thank you so much for having me. This was really great. Your Twitter account maybe? It's at Carol. K-A-R-O-L.
Starting point is 02:03:16 Wow. You've been on since the beginning. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I mean, not, you know. 2007? No, no.
Starting point is 02:03:23 I actually wasn't that early. I was not that early in Adopter. I somehow snagged it. Wow. Good for, not, you know. 2007? No, no. I actually wasn't that early. I was not that early in adopter. I somehow snagged it. Wow. Good for you. That's impressive. You can follow me at iancrossland.net and at Ian Crossland. And I want to shout out Dr. Ace Thayer from SoCal Chiropractic, a YouTube channel that I absolutely love.
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Starting point is 02:04:12 We'll see you there. Bye, guys.

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