Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #345 - Leftist Democrat Says SUCK IT UP After Spending $70k On Private Police w/FreedomToons
Episode Date: August 6, 2021Tim, Ian, and Lydia join friend and fellow YouTuber Seamus Coughlin of FreedomToons to examine Cori Bush's incendiary statements about her private security in wake of her calling for the defunding of ...the police, a woman in San Francisco with some heavy weaponry leaning out a car window, a 50-year-old diner shut down by a combination of Covid fines and economic collapse, the Boston mayor calling vaccine passports a throwback to slavery and Jim Crow, and Dr. Fauci's new guidance for getting more doses of the Covid vaccination. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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How's it going, everybody?
Last night, we had a scheduling error, and the show ended up getting canceled.
But it's all right, because it's Lydia's birthday, so she got the night off.
Happy birthday.
I did.
Thank you, guys.
I appreciate that.
I really appreciate that.
My coworkers threw me a party.
This is my favorite gift that I got.
It's by Ibram X. Kendi and Jason Reynolds.
It's a good one.
It's called Stamped for Kids, and I'm going to read it and get back to you guys.
Yeah, it's anti-racism for children.
That's right, yeah.
Because there's not enough critical race applied principles in our schools.
So it's a good thing that Ibram has written a book for children.
Maybe, you know, it's an important thing.
It's like communist for kids where you spell it with a K, right?
Yeah, it's really cute.
I'm surprised they're not publishing the manifesto with pop-up book versions yet, honestly.
The augmented reality.
But I know, Liz, I know you want to have kids and whatnot.
It'll be good for you to have that book in your arsenal for me.
Yeah, I'm excited.
I'm going to go through it and make notes and everything.
It'll be good.
Good for you.
Suck it up, Seamus.
What?
If I want to defund the police and then spend $70,000 on private security for myself, I'm
going to do it, and I'll spend $200,000 if I have to.
You know why?
Because I'm important.
Because I'm doing the hard work.
I'm the one
the only one who can save these people what stage of capitalism is this are you okay they're
defunding the police and paying thousands for their own private security shame is shame is
yeah my theatrics may have been only slightly you actually i thought you were serious that is
almost a verbatim quote from ci Bush. She is a progressive.
She was sleeping on the steps at the Capitol because of the eviction moratorium. But she actually went on this tirade where she was like, I'm doing the work and I have threats.
So I will spend up to $200,000 if I have to.
And no one else has ever had their life threatened besides an elected official who could afford private security.
So awesome.
With campaign funds.
I'm glad she's
defunding the police isn't she part of the squad isn't she one of these socialists here's this
really i don't know if she's a socialist all right which is a squad member but here's the thing well
i want to educate her because i don't know if you know this but i'm a socialist him are you and yes
i think that it's wrong that the ultra wealthy should be the only people with access to security. I believe we should universalize security by having people's taxes
find security guards, but for the whole public.
So you're saying universal private security?
Universal private security.
A single-payer private security system.
And I think some of these sock-doms and socialists
might be interested in something like that.
I don't know. It's a hard sell.
You know, they're very much about...
So only the wealthy should have
security, Tim? Apparently that's their plan.
Oh, no, no, no, Seamus. You misunderstand.
They're staunch defenders of the
Second Amendment. Oh, no.
That's right. Yeah, that's right.
Now, of course, I'm being
a little bit silly here private
security is one of the things or i shouldn't say private security but security is one of the things
that it's reasonable for the state to provide so we don't call that socialism but it's funny to me
how the government's supposed to fund everything except for the basic things that it actually is
supposed to fund like the police we got this story we got a bunch of other stories israel is now
moving to three covid shots three three yeah yeah there's
some there's some breaking news i haven't been i haven't been able to verify yet there's a i don't
speak hebrew and there's a report that came out from israel's channel 13 i could not verify the
translation because i i've only just seen it came out earlier today he only just started hebrew
school but but i can tell you that there's a report saying that the the infection rates are
going way way up in Israel.
Hospitalizations are way up and they're contemplating another hard lockdown.
But they're going to try a third COVID shot to see if that works.
And now Dr. Fauci has said they are rushing for approval for a third shot for those that are immunocompromised or weakened.
So, you look, based on that, based on Joe Biden's illegal eviction moratorium
that he put into place in the Supreme Court
that you can't do it,
I think whether or not
there's going to be another lockdown,
the rule of law was just smacked with a sledgehammer.
Supreme Court's like,
you do not have the authority
to demand people give their property to somebody else.
And Joe Biden went,
I'm going to do it anyway.
And then he did.
Exactly.
So that's where we are.
Was there like a property tax moratorium?
Are these landlords who own property no longer required to fulfill their obligation to give the government money?
Don't say landlord.
Say retiree.
Say retiree.
The 60-year-olds who put their retirement funds into like a two-flat and rent out a portion of it, and that's their retirement.
Yeah, those are the people getting hit by this.
Yeah, well, that's the thing.
Like, landlord has become this political cuss word,
but most landlords are not uber-wealthy people.
You know, they're middle class or they're retirees.
This is a way they supplement their income or try to make a living for themselves. Fixed income.
Yeah.
So we're going to talk about all that.
Obviously, Seamus is here.
He's talking about Seamus stuff.
Yes, I am.
Seamus, Freedom Tunes.
I run this channel called Freedom Tunes, T-O-O-N-S,
youtube.com slash freedomtunes.
We're going to be uploading a cartoon tomorrow about good old Dr. Fauci,
as a matter of fact.
So if you want to check that out.
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If you want to go over there and subscribe and check that out tomorrow.
This is the most martial of laws I've ever experienced in the United States,
40 years or something.
I've never seen it to the point where they just override the Supreme Court.
It's kind of weird.
And I know that like they did during the Spanish flu,
during times of disease has been a notable time for governments to take martial law action,
but I wasn't expecting it.
It was different back when you had sort of a consensus,
when you had culture and community and everyone kind of agreed.
Right.
Now you have the Internet and all this different conflicting data,
and it's driving people crazy and making people second-guess things.
It's really a weird time.
Well, and also, I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble for saying this,
but this is not exactly the same as the Spanish flu in terms of deadliness.
As far as we can tell, yeah, a lot of that was sanitary.
They didn't have a lot of what we have now.
The Spanish flu is almost the exact reverse
because it caused your immune system to turn on your body,
so younger people with healthier immune systems were more likely to die of it.
And in this case, COVID, I think it's something like 80% of COVID deaths are people above the age of 65.
So it's much more likely to affect the elderly, whereas the Spanish flu is much more likely to affect younger, healthier people.
I think, and to clarify too, I think the booster shots in Israel are for people over 60.
Interesting.
But we got Lydia pressing buttons.
I am here in the corner pushing buttons.
It is, in fact, my birthday.
Thank you guys for joining me
on my birthday.
It's a wonderful birthday.
Happy birthday.
I appreciate everyone in my life.
We hit a pinata earlier.
Yeah, Seamus freaking
destroyed that pinata.
I got a bunch of candy.
It was really, really fun.
I appreciate that.
Cool.
I missed that.
Ian.
What'd you hit it with?
A bat.
He murdered a bat.
A fist.
I just put my dukes up, dude, and they blindfolded me.
And I started swinging, and I broke it.
They're like, you broke the pinata.
I was like, pinata?
Did you go on the trampoline?
I did not.
No, I haven't checked it out yet.
It's really big.
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with good old Cori Bush.
My friends, welcome to the show.
Suck it up.
Cori Bush defends hiring private security guards
while demanding Americaica defund
police this is brilliant she said i'm going to make sure that i have security because i know i
man i could just emphasize all the eyes have had attempts on my life or something and i have to
have too much work to do there are too many people that need help right now for me to allow that wow
that is someone who should just not be given any more power in any other context for the rest of their life like they
have already fallen into the perfect totalitarian mindset i'm more important than the average person
so a different set of rules should apply to me check it out in her one sentence she says i'm
going to make sure that i have security because i know i had attempts on my life and i have too
much too much work to do.
There are too many people that need help right now for me to a seven in one sentence.
Incredible.
That is really fantastic.
Wow.
Narcissistic.
Good for her.
And I'm someone who says I a lot as well.
I'm impressed.
You did the Timcast IRL.
It's in the name.
Yeah, it's in the name.
That's right.
She says, so if I end up spending $200,000, if I spend $10 more on it, you know what?
I get to be here to do the work.
She added, so suck it up.
Defunding the police has to happen.
We need to defund the police and put that money into social safety nets.
Okay, to be fair, she said we in that sentence.
She said we.
So that means she's a woman of the people.
I'm convinced.
Yeah, I'm solid.
It comes out.
I mean, it's the perfect example of moral licensing, right?
Can anybody question the
squad on their stance on guns?
I think that's a really important thing, because the left, like
real leftists, they like guns.
And so their support
base are progressives.
What will the progressives think? Like, where
are they at on this one? I don't think anyone's ever been like,
Ocasio-Cortez, how do you feel about guns? Well, here's the thing,
I mean, gun control is a losing issue for the left,
so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their base is very much in favor of guns and would be against
the gun restrictions that the more moderate democrats tend to push for i think it's
establishment democrats that are anti-gun exactly leftists are pro-gun like i think a good portion
of like union democrat democrat like working guys yeah if they still exist yeah there are some no i
know some yeah and the days of uh ballistic fabrication have evolved i mean you can you can 3d print weaponry
now that couldn't didn't exist 20 years ago the the whole idea of legislating illegality to
something that people can do in their house but not only is insane i mean like you can make meth
in your house i mean i guess i i'm like it's possible i was like physically but not legally yeah yeah no
that's that's my point i mean but then the drug war has been a failure but clearly we can legislate
things you can make in your house but i agree it makes it a lot more difficult and it's going to
be a massive uphill battle for the people who want to regulate guns not only because as you said you
can make these things in your house and the technology is improving but because the vast
majority of the public isn't on board with that agenda do you ever hear about that guy who made a
radio radiation death ray in his garage?
And he irradiated his whole neighborhood.
And so the government found out because they were getting this crazy, really intense reading.
And he had taken a bunch of common radioactive materials, because they exist all over the place.
And he made a big cluster of it.
And then he put it in.
What?
I could be getting this story wrong.
So someone fact check me, because I just read it on the internet somewhere.
But he created a lead casing with a hole. I could be getting this story wrong. So someone factored me because I just read it on the internet somewhere.
But he created like a lead casing with a hole.
And then he put all of this radioactive material in it.
And it focused the radiation out of it.
And so apparently they came and shut him down.
He got offered a job.
Then kept doing illegal stuff with radiation.
It was covered in lesions.
So they kicked him out of whatever it is they were doing.
I was just thinking.
Just real quick. I bring that up because of what your point was.
Like that self-home fabrication just thinking. Just real quick. I bring that up because of what your point was, like that self, like home fabrication of things.
It literally happens.
But the reason I brought up 2A in the first place
in the context of the squad is
Cori Bush says defund the police, right?
And many of the leftists have said straight up,
abolish the police.
Now, here's the problem I have with their view on this
is that they want private security for themselves. Yes. They don't want you to have guns and they want to take away your police
that is a narco tyranny to the most extreme degree my position is abolish the police and
give everyone guns by mandate i was just thinking like if you if you establish a global second
amendment um like how often do civilians from one country ever get charged with attacking another country?
It's like in the last 400 years.
There was that guy in San Francisco who shot that woman.
But I mean like military escapades.
In the last 400 years, I can't really pick like a citizen attack on another country.
It's always the government.
So if these citizens were armed, we would probably see a lot less war.
But arming the citizens doesn't necessarily mean you get rid of the military in that country.
Right.
You'd still have a military, but you'd also have an armed citizenry on both sides.
Oh, I get what you're saying, yeah.
You know, my view of it is, like, so I've been saying abolish the police just because I see what's going on with, you know,
the Metro Police in D.C. and the Capitol Police.
What happened with that guy in his own home getting arrested?
What happened in Seattle with the cops actually defending Antifa? i'm like dude call their bluff call them out say just okay
people should have a right to defend themselves and if you know if cops aren't gonna aren't gonna
do it right but my view is uh give everybody guns right second amendment you have a right to keep
bare arms okay then if we're gonna have universal health care we're gonna have universal guns as
well but i'll put it really really simply i don't see people in their cars just like randomly like crashing into houses
and like hit slamming the gas and slamming into old ladies or anything like that how is it that
people have access to this very powerful machine that can just hit somebody and they don't they
don't i i kind of think people don't want to kill other people for the most part. Yeah. I mean, look, there are a lot of traffic fatalities.
You also have a lot of accidental gun deaths.
But generally speaking, people aren't going out and killing each other.
Now, before 2020, violent crime was on a downward trend.
So we could say something like that and have data to back us up more strongly.
But unfortunately, because of the summer of rage, as they call it, crime rates have more or less biked again.
And we'll see how long they stay up for, whether decline i'm sure they will but who knows maybe things actually just get worse
and then we can't make the case that people will be peaceful with their guns but they'll still need
them to protect themselves this is my position on on cops right now i mean you look at what happens
with with uh chauvin he gets arrested and charged that that that kim woman that kim potter and she
gets arrested and charged and i'm like if if everything is going to be beholden to the far left,
the last thing we need is a police force to enforce the whims of the far left.
Sorry.
So when Cori Bush comes out and she's like, we're going to defund the police,
I'm like, better do it now before they take more control in government
and then start using the cops against regular working class people.
I don't know.
We've got to clarify, what does that mean, defund the police?
Because I know when Vosch was on the show a couple nights ago,
he immediately thought the anarcho version of it which is completely removed the
funding so so abolished basically he also said it hadn't happened and i was like there was a report
last year was like 265 departments had like their budgets slashed by substantial numbers i think new
york slashed a billion right a billion so that's that's a defunding not an abolishment i mean look
i believe law and order is very important on the one hand.
On the other hand, I think there maybe is something to allowing these left-wing cities to engage in some self-sabotage and see how that goes for them.
And maybe that corrects some of the bad thinking.
Ultimately, I would leave it up more to local governments and regions to determine what their police force should look like.
And you know what?
I'll clarify this, too.
I didn't say abolish the sheriffs or you know or troopers i'm talking about these big cities where things are
like run by democrats and then the democrats complain about their own mistakes i'm like okay
i don't live there you know when you have a baby or a child that's like don't touch the hot stove
kid and the kid's like and wants to do it and you're like what are you going to do eventually
you got to let him live his life if he touches the stove he burns his finger and he realizes i shouldn't do that again
you can't spend your whole life keeping the kid out of the kitchen so in a way maybe we should
let these cities rip their police departments apart i i think if that's what they want if
that's who they vote for then either here's the way i see it right like i mentioned first and, I look at what happened when there was like a bunch of right-wing dudes in Portland or whatever and the cops started beating them up.
Then you've got obviously the Capitol Police crying and saying Trump's racist and all that stuff.
And then you see the guy in Milwaukee who gets arrested for – after people were at his house threatening his own house.
Now that – right on the surface, it's like, okay, there's clearly an issue there. But the other there's another two issues that I think
are important. If the Democrats come out and say they want to abolish or defund their police,
I'm like, first of all, I don't live there. And I'm more libertarian. So I say, well,
then they can run their community as they see fit within reason. Maybe they're right.
Maybe they're right, huh? It'll be a utopia with no police.
Highly doubt it. Well, hey, and maybe they're wrong. it'll be a utopia with no police highly doubt it well hey and maybe they're wrong and then maybe regular people in these cities will be like wow we shouldn't vote
for those people i think a lot of those people will leave though to be honest it's already
happening a lot of people are leaving the cities the property values are decreasing i mean chicago
has been shrinking that's my point of reference everyone's crossing the border over to indiana
because they want to live somewhere that's sensibly run and they want to vote for policies policies which are not sensible so they can destroy it the way they did the place they just came from.
Well, to be honest, there's a lot of places in Indiana that have already been destroyed.
That's fair.
That's very fair.
Yeah, you go over to Gary and it's like –
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For those that aren't familiar, Gary is like –
The armpit of America?
Is that what they call it?
I think so, yeah.
Gary, Indiana and Engle chicago like go back and
forth for murder capital oh wow so they're really gary's like heavily industrialized isn't it it's
like the industrial zone of no apocalyptic bro was yeah gary was a long time ago they had a steel
industry and then i left before the 80s i'd say last time i went to gary it was crazy because
you'd go to like a a block like a residential block and every fourth house was a house and in between it was just abandoned falling
apart chaos and it was really weird to see like a regular house sitting right there like a car and
then like everything destroyed next to it you walk down the street and there's a school windows blown
out whole the craziest thing man the school there's like records of the children who went there in the 60s.
Just everywhere.
You could walk up, pick up someone's file, find their name.
Wow.
And there were buildings like that all over the place.
Actually, so what happened was the police went in and just started breaking windows and destroying houses.
And it was all because it was just the cops.
Hunting people down?
Yeah, exactly.
The police were responsible.
And then they defunded the police.
And now Gary doesn't have many police and it's going great.
It's an interesting phenomenon.
In the United States, all these ghost town type, these rubber boom, like Akron.
That is very interesting.
I was born in Akron in Ohio, and it's a rubber boom city.
After Goodyear was formed there in the 50s and 40s, and then when the rubber boom stopped, it became a ghost town.
But not like Gary.
Akron didn't have Chicago right next door, so Gary is like the beat-up aftermath of a ghost town.
I find it fascinating.
There's all these different cities.
There's another report that found Democrats in all of these cities that had defunded police were hiring massive private security.
Oh, interesting.
This is what it was like when I was growing up in Chicago.
I remember my dad used to say that these politicians in Chicago would always vote for more gun restrictions.
And then have private security guards with guns.
Exactly.
They can have guns.
Yes.
I can have a gun to protect myself.
I'll have a private security force to protect my family.
Put those stupid peasants out there.
Let them have five-round magazines.
Yep.
If they can have a gun at all.
Yeah.
What does she think, Cori Bush, think is the point?
What does she want to do?
Defund the police.
What does she mean? Get social workers to the point? What does she want to do? Defund the police? What does she mean?
Like get like social workers to go on calls of domestic abuse?
Yes.
She said social.
What did she say?
Social safety nets.
Does she understand that like domestic abuse is some of the most dangerous situations a human can walk into?
Two enraged people in the middle of a fight?
I don't know about two enraged people.
Often you'll get like a dude abusing a woman. is true that women abuse men as well but it's disproportionately
men abusing women right and that's why i'm like ladies you need to have proper training and
firearms man and all dude i heard this i used to live next door to this couple and i could hear
them through the walls and and they were they would fight a lot and one night i heard the guy
come home and then i heard the girl like man man guy was like and she's like and the guy was like and she she enraged the guy and then the
guy started beating her and i called the cops but like she and she instigated it it was crazy how
domestic abuse is like this six can be a six cycle that both people become like used to Well, look, I can call you a bunch of dirty names.
That doesn't mean you should take this.
No, he was in the wrong.
I called the cops on him for attacking.
And you're right.
You're right.
Police show up to that, and that's some of the most dangerous stuff they could encounter.
Here's a guy.
He's attacking somebody.
You don't know what's going on.
And sometimes the guy's innocent even.
There's like a lot of these stories are kind of scary too.
I think it's disproportionate.
But there are stories where it's like the woman calls the cops and the guy and the guy didn't do anything
and the cops come and arrest the guy it's tough job man i'm not gonna i'm not gonna there's no
two words about it and what do you do do we just say like both the man and the wind should be armed
and then when the fight breaks out they shoot each other no obviously not that's why when i talk
about the police i think the police are important i think they do a hard job i think they do a a
mostly good job and And I think it's
fairly thankless in a lot of ways because people don't like getting tickets. They don't like
getting tickets. They don't like being told no. And then they get pulled over and they're like,
you singled me out. And they're all angry. And it's like, well, you know, man, don't,
you know, speed or whatever. The issue right now is just it's way too hot politically.
And the cultural institutions being controlled by leftist ideologues.
I'm like, I'll tell you what's going to happen, man, because we've already seen it, and I've already said it 50 million times.
They're going to show up to your house.
They're going to take away your guns.
They're going to serve you a red flag warrant.
They're going to arrest you for defending yourself, and they're going to let the extremists smash up windows and do whatever they want.
So I'm like, I like sheriffs to do a good job.
There's some bad stories about sheriffs, but if these big cities don't want their cops i'm going to advocate for that my my feeling is that
it's going to be either socialized police like what we kind of have now federalized police or
private police that it will be one of those three if not a mixture of all three which we kind of
have now so i'm afraid that if we defund police socialized police that we're going to have an
influx of either federal or private yep and that's that's terrifying i'd rather have local yes well that's what aoc said
when asked like what what would you be looking for and she said we want to be more like the suburbs
well that's a good point let's bring it back to the days of officer friendly right what does she
mean by that i guess she's saying that like in the suburbs the cop will pull you over and be like
how's it going there, Ian?
Good day.
You are speeding again.
And then you're going to be like, I'm sorry, Officer Smith.
And they're like, well, you slow down there, son.
And then he leaves.
They knew my dad was a fireman.
They knew my dad.
They go, oh, you're Crossland's kid?
White privilege.
Get out of here.
White privilege.
Here's a warning.
One time I got a warning.
Yeah, that was, well, it was fireman privilege.
Fireman privilege.
I'm kidding.
City worker privilege. Check out, I want to pull up this, we got this story. Oh, that was, well, it was fireman privilege. Fireman privilege. I'm kidding. City worker privilege.
Check out, I want to pull up this, we got this story.
Oh, yeah, this is a great story.
I love that our guys wrote this for TimCast.com.
That's a great picture.
Liberal Utopia.
San Francisco woman seen holding AK-47 from passenger window of speeding car.
It's amazing.
There's the photo.
It's a lady hanging out the window.
I guess she got arrested.
My understanding is it's not an AK-47.
Someone mentioned it's a, what is it, an AKM-74, something like that.
I don't know for sure.
But she has terrible trigger discipline.
She's ready, man.
Too ready.
But this brings up an interesting issue I was thinking about, you know, universal guns and stuff like that.
If you're driving your car erratically, like, I think the cop can pull you over and say, get out of the car like you're driving erratically,. If you're driving your car erratically,
I think the cop can pull you over
and say, get out of the car,
like you're driving erratically,
like you were driving drunk.
If you were brandishing a weapon
out of the side of a vehicle,
I don't think it's a violation
of your Second Amendment
if a cop's like,
I'm taking that away from you.
More importantly,
with their finger on the trigger.
Yeah, yeah.
Should you bust people just for that?
Do you think if someone's walking around carrying
and then they have their bad trigger discipline?
She's holding the gun.
It looks like I don't think she was intending on shooting anybody.
I'm not sure.
But she's holding it like low ready basically with her finger on the trigger.
Yeah, I think she should have that taken away and, you know.
She's the passenger?
Yeah, she is.
Hanging out of the window.
But the San Francisco dude.
Things are going well over there.
So I was really curious, though, and I don't know if we read this in the article, but was
this part of like a gang war or something?
No, I think she was just driving.
It was a speed event.
With a gun?
Yeah, it was funny because a lot of comments were like, man, she's so dumb, but that photo
is awesome.
That's a pretty killer photo.
Wow.
Wow.
It's not awesome.
Dude, I look at this.
I got to be honest.
This lady out of a car holding that gun, and I'm not somebody who's got extensive training.
I'm like, it's embarrassing.
You know what I mean?
If I took a photo, so we did a photo shoot when we had Forrest here for Requel Mag.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm like, very careful.
Make sure you're telling me how to stand and how to hold it.
Because the last thing I want is to have a photo of me holding it wrong.
She's going to be all over the internet.
And I don't know if she cares, though.
She's not like...
It seems like since the movies have been invented that people have become desensitized to the horrors of danger in a lot of ways.
Because 150 years ago, if that had come out that someone was driving around
like a psycho screaming
with their finger on the trigger
of a weapon,
that would be a huge deal
for that city.
They'd have to do something
about that person.
But now it's like,
it's a hero.
It's an action hero.
Like there's this...
Or the Dillon,
were the John Dillinger days?
I almost didn't say that
because there were like,
what are they,
Bonnie and Clyde
and like their old like villains
that were kind of looked at like heroes, like in the west yeah anti-heroes or i don't know yeah
it's kind of weird isn't it yeah like john dillinger you know people look back on him with
some kind of reverence it's been like a mad distrust for the state and like a love of local
authority yeah well now san francisco is just devolving i mean could this be you know it's
really funny as we're sitting here laughing like haha she ha, she's so dumb in San Francisco. It's so dumb. Could this be like the beginning of the Wild West days of America, like where it's like the dystopian era is beginning? The eviction moratorium is totally illegal. Biden's just basically blatantly disregarding all law and precedents in this country in rather extreme ways. To be fair, Obama and Trump did kill American citizens.
I think Obama's was a bit more egregious.
Trump's was a bit reckless.
We've had bad orders from presidents for a long time, but now it's like here at home.
You know what I mean?
Like when Obama killed...
This mic arm is weird ringing.
When Obama killed those Americans with a drone strike, you know, nobody knew what happened and they didn't care.
And Trump had ordered a commando raid, which ended up, we believe, killing a little girl.
So actually, I should say that the Trump thing is not confirmed, though we believe it was the case.
People don't see that stuff.
Now you've got Joe Biden being like, I'm going to the Supreme Court to see if I can do this thing.
And the Supreme Court's like, you can't do this thing.
And then he's like, Congress, can you do this thing?
And they're like, we can't do this thing.
And he goes, I'll do it anyway.
The craziest thing is that Joe Biden threatened to arrest people for evicting somebody a year
in jail.
Under what authority could he do?
None.
Literally none.
Literally, the Supreme Court's like, you can't do it.
He goes, OK, I'll do it anyway.
Supreme Court can't do anything to stop it.
So when you see that and you see poop all over the streets, I tell you this, man, this
woman riding around with their gun, what did you think was going to happen when people
know they can break the law with impunity in San Francisco?
They walk, that guy walks into Walgreens, right?
I'm sorry.
He rides his bike into Walgreens and then he has a garbage bag and he fills it up with stuff.
And then he rides out.
And the security guard doesn't do anything.
And Chesa Bowden actually defended the guy.
Who's Chesa Bowden?
He's the DA.
He said something like, oh, he was desperate.
And he told this story a year ago about how we have to make sure that we don't make unintended consequences happen by arresting these dealers.
And they told a story about how one dealer was trafficked here and had to sell drugs to pay off the dealers who were holding his dad hostage.
And I'm like, so you're saying this guy comes here and he's selling drugs on our streets and we have to tolerate it because his dad's in danger?
Like, that makes literally no sense. I'm sorry. Like, I don't want anything bad to it because his dad's in danger. Like that makes literally no sense.
I'm sorry.
Like I don't want anything bad to happen to his dad.
But how is it that we're going to let him deal drugs, pay off the kidnappers and rescue his dad?
What are you talking about?
It's bad to stop.
That's San Francisco.
This is what you get when you get district attorneys much like Cori Bush, who are like these progressive Democrats who are just like, tear it all down. Yeah, I'm thinking about like ancient history and basically the totalitarian of human history.
If someone were to go onto like a farmer's land and take three of their goats and then get caught,
and the farmer's like, why'd you take my goats?
And they're like, I had to feed my starving family.
They would hang that guy.
Probably not even a trial.
They just take him and like put him death, basically, for thievery.
And we've gone.
Now we're in such an abundant society that it's like thievery isn't such a big deal.
Maybe it seems like.
Well, I feel like we're able to see a lot more of the extra downsides of theft and robbery.
Because I was learning the other day they are two totally different things.
We can now see what robbery does to, for example, businesses that work in a neighborhood.
And we can see everything it does.
It disheartens the people that live there and it makes them want to leave.
This lady riding around like it's freaking Grand Theft Auto, that's insanity.
I feel like all we need is a drought for San Francisco to look like literal Mad Max.
It's in a drought.
What do you mean?
Well, there you go.
This is Mad Max.
It's starting in California. California's in a drought. do you mean well there you go this is mad max it's starting in california california's in a drought right oh my god drought is so bad that they're stopping people
from pulling water out of the delta oh my gosh bro i gotta be honest i'm looking at what's going
on with the with the eviction moratorium the debt ceiling crisis those are very very big
unemployment just being cranked out till september now you're seeing stuff like this you're seeing
more of the defund the police stuff and And I'm like, it is Mad Max.
Like it is a controlled collapse almost.
It feels like – I want you to picture this in your heads, everybody.
There's a giant skyscraper and there is a giant Voltron-like Japanese robot punching buildings.
And the building gets knocked over and Joe Biden,iden who's 70 feet tall grabs it he's got
hairy legs and he's got hair very hair very hairy legs and he's holding up the building as it's
collapsing and he's going come on man but it's too heavy so it's slowly going down it's the end
of a really good movie it's going down and then no no no this is not the end the the the end of
the beginning scene it's not a good movie movie. It's the end of the second.
You know, you know, in like sequels that are part of trilogies, it's always a cliffhanger.
Yeah, that's it.
The cliffhanger is Joe Biden can't lift the building back up.
And he's like, come on.
And it goes down.
And then the sequel is it just crushes him.
So what I mean is it feels like the system is falling over and they're trying to hold it.
It doesn't just feel like it's him.
Yeah, I know.
You've seen it, yeah.
Yeah.
When you get San Francisco with people hanging out windows speeding and ladies holding a gun, I'm like, let's not be frogs boiling a pot.
What did you think was going to happen?
What's the difference between thievery and robbery?
I guess the thievery doesn't require any kind of holding somebody up.
You just sneak in and take stuff.
Whereas robbery requires somebody to cause, threaten some kind of physical harm.
Oh, physical harm.
Robbery, give me your stuff.
And that's still illegal.
Somebody mugs you.
So San Francisco, robbery is still illegal, but they're allowing petty thievery?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
Either way, right?
Everything under $950, the police basically don't respond to because they're misdemeanors
or something like that.
And so people can walk into a-
What about $200,000 private security forces?
Do you think they'll respond if something worth $950 gets stolen from a politician?
Let me tell you about private security.
Private security will punch a cop in the face if their client wants them to or needs them
to.
No joke.
They have lawyers.
Yeah, right.
We've had people comment in Super Chat talking about this, but it's true.
Private security, they do not care.
If they have a client, it depends. It depends depends but they don't have to play politics either if you're hiring a 15 an hour private security guard for an event he's gonna be like i don't care he probably
doesn't have a gun but like for cory bush she's 70 000 private security and she's a politician
these are the kind of people they're going to tell the cop to screw off and the cop's going to try
and walk through and they're going to block him and be like, you're not getting past us. It's not
going to happen. Now, for
millionaires and billionaires, those are the
kind of guys who are like, literally would
punch a cop in the face. Those private security guards will do whatever
they want. And they'll like fly the guy out of the country
if he does something.
Yeah, they'll get him on a yacht and they'll take him out. Him and his
family. Get him 12
miles out to sea or whatever. Take you to Abu Dhabi.
Yep. Set you up in a really nice hotel.
Nice suite.
The police now don't do that.
We should defund them.
I know.
You know, until a police officer does that for me, defund them.
Defund all the cops because they don't provide us with that.
Because they won't take me out to international waters after I've committed a crime.
What if we get like a police and it was like subscription service?
So you get like police, police plus, and police gold package.
That's where it is. That's where we're where we're headed i mean if everything becomes private security what
other option do we have people are just going to start hiring private security and local communities
they'll band together and go well the police have been defunded we need some way to protect
ourselves the millionaires and billionaires have private security so why don't we pool together
as a neighborhood and hire our own private security force and then they do and then we
end up in encapistan which is crazy to me that the left have become the proponents of that a problem imagining like check it out like you you someone
breaks in your house and like they run off you call the police and like you're a regular working
class person and the cop shows up and he's like i see you're using our uh our our our our basic
package uh for police service so uh the person's not you anymore. You get five bullets. No, no, no. You fire five bullets at the guy.
As the perpetrator is no longer here,
I think you're safe,
and we have fulfilled our requirements
under the basic plan.
Have a nice day, good sir.
Feel free to contact us
if you'd ever like to upgrade.
Then you get someone who's got, like,
platinum, platinum plus,
and the cop shows up,
and they show up with a fruit basket.
Shoot their dog.
They don't shoot your dog.
If you only get the basic version.
Yeah, the basic version. You don't shoot your dog. But if only get the basic version, you can shoot your dog.
But if you get the premium version,
they put him down ethically
with a nice injection.
Either way, your dog is going to die.
Well, you did call us. It is part of the package.
That's part of the package.
You can see a basic package
where they'll apprehend
the guy and then let him go.
But then there's the gold package where they apprehend him and they'll actually take him to the courthouse and
do the paperwork for you for the for the platinum platinum plus if you're like a millionaire and you
spend like 20 grand a month on the police they bring the guy to your house they bring him into
the basement where there's chains over a pipe and they're like here you go sir is part of the
platinum platinum plus uh a bit of dna for you. Have fun with that, yeah.
You got a piece of his hair.
He's now going to live in your basement.
I heard that private security agents cost, it's the insurance to hire those guys
because each person is like a million dollars in insurance to cover.
So you can't, the normal person just cannot afford that stuff.
That's what I'm saying.
You pull together as an area.
And if people started to come together, because technically if you get a legal weapon, you are your own private security force.
But as soon as you start to build a force, I think that you become then liable for insurance.
You know what I really do think, though?
I think if we did abolish the police, it would basically be the end of the U.S.
Because it's like you were saying.
What would happen is people would either form local militias or local security companies would come in now imagine this you live and let's call
it like uh let's call it a hillside which i'm sorry somebody watching lives in hillside let's
say there's a hillside neighborhood and the police are all disbanded and fall apart and so they say
we definitely need a security force you know police for our local community so they create one
and they all
put, they all pitch in money and now they have their local Hillside police. Well, next, next to
Hillside is Valley side and they do the same thing. And then one day a kid from Hillside gets into a
fight with the kid and Valley side punches him. The kid goes on, hits his head on a curb and dies.
The Hillside kid runs away after the kid dies. And then the Valley side police are like, we're
going to go get him. Cause he, you know, he came in here. Then the valley side police are like we're gonna go get him because he you know he came in here then the hillside police are like you can't come in here and then
you have feuding neighborhoods as if they are like micro nations if you get rid of the police
i'm not uh i'm not gonna agree with the ancaps on this one that's why i said when i talk about
abolish the police it's not for the same reason as a lot of ancaps and libertarians though they
have been calling me based for saying it no i think what would really happen is you'd have a
conflict from regional departments and then what one police
department's like we got to go to here's a better example kid from hillside goes to valleyside and
steals a five thousand dollar you know uh item and flees with it and then the hillside cops are like
you're not coming in our neighborhood we don't know we don't care and we're not investigating
that for whatever reason and the valleyside cops are like we're getting our property back for our patrons and then what then they go in there and
they shoot everyone's dog gang war yeah they go in there everyone wakes up and all the dogs are
dead they like sneak they come in their house mission impossible from the ceiling like just
to take the dog out that's assuming too that these neighborhoods have the same laws because
then you'd start to get even more granular local level law like it's okay to steal up to two targeted hit that's assuming too that these neighborhoods have the same laws because then
you'd start to get even more granular local level law like it's okay to steal up to two thousand
dollars in hillside but in valley side it's a it's a crime yeah it's okay to fight on the street
look at san francisco when they said they're not they're not going to prosecute these crimes
people from all over the area are going there to steal. They're like, hey, freebie.
It's what happened in Ferguson.
The people who were rioting in Ferguson did not live there.
They were smashing windows and stealing stuff.
And it's got to be bleeding over from San Francisco into the surrounding neighborhoods
and cities.
I haven't looked into it.
Hold on.
Barbara Boxer, Democrat senator from California, got mugged by a child.
Okay.
A kid.
We'll call it a kid because it was a young teenager.
Like an 18, 17 year old or something.
No, no, no.
Like 15, is it 14 or 15?
Was he like six foot, 180 pounds or something crazy?
But apparently he like pushed her, grabbed her phone.
I think she, I don't know if she fell over, but then he jumped in a car and she was like,
why would you do that to a grandma?
And I'm just like, you know, there are bad people you need to be protected from.
Let me tell you this, man.
That's crazy. Have you seen that Purge episode people you need to be protected from. Let me tell you this, man. It's crazy.
You ever see.
Have you seen that that that purge episode of Rick and Morty?
Yes.
You're not.
The rich people think they're safe in the purge.
They will make a world.
They will truly regret that.
What I mean is these elite political class individuals, these Democrats, for the most part, that want to defund and get rid of all these cops.
I am of the firm belief that when they do that, they will absolutely regret it.
Well, 100% when people say things like, why would somebody do something like this?
Okay, there are so many reasons, but did you really think they wouldn't?
Did you not understand that there were people out there that do those kinds of things and
will hurt people?
She defunded the police for him, though, so that he didn't get profiled.
Well, but hold on.
Was there a social worker nearby when this happened to ask him about his feelings before
he mugged her yeah because then it probably wouldn't happen so so scott adams has this
theory that democrats really don't understand human motivation and i'm inclined to agree
because democrats seemed inclined to believe that people aren't going to do bad things to other
people and if anything bad happens to for example example, a minority or a person in that community,
it's because someone else is doing a terrible thing.
So it's like either you believe that everyone's basically good
or you think that everyone's basically bad except minorities.
I think I generally agree, but my thing with Scott Adams is I just don't take political advice from cartoonists.
Well, that's fair. I appreciate that.
Nor should you, right?
No, no, no. He's making fun of himself.
Yeah, yeah.
But, yeah, I am a cartoonist. But, no, I think that's making fun of himself. Yeah, yeah. I know. But, yeah, I am a cartoonist.
But, no, I think that's true.
They don't understand human motivation.
And if you go to many of the thinkers that were held up by the left or influenced the left historically, like Rousseau, who think that humans are fundamentally good, you get into this place where the only way someone could possibly do something bad is if they were engineered by society to commit the wrongdoing.
Guys, I got bad news.
Uh-oh.
Spiffy's is closed. I don't even know what it is.
Spiffy's is closed, guys.
It's getting worse every time you say it.
This is direct evidence. The collapse is here.
The country has fallen. You know what else is messed up?
The dairy. So there's this dairy queen in Indiana
I used to go to and they don't have dilly bars there anymore.
What? And you're telling me that the West isn't collapsing.
This is mad mad.
Check out the story from TimCast.com.
Diner closes.
Diner closes.
Fined $400,000 for violating COVID-19 rules.
Wait, what?
Diner closes?
I think they got a typo in the headline.
Copy editor, guys.
What are you doing, TimCast.com?
Heck.
A diner that was fined 400 000 for
violent and covid has closed permanently the washington eatery was once referred to as the
flashpoint for covid rebellion by local news outlets they uh unfortunately they shut down
they said it was due to staffing shortages and food delivery problems not the fines
so it wasn't the fines interesting okay but uh i'm sure the fines
had to contribute something to it or they were just ignoring them yeah well okay fair enough
but uh i i jokingly say oh spiffy is close it's a 50 year old diner wow in dc socks 50 years so
so look this is just one example of all the businesses that we've seen destroyed because
of what's been going on in the economy and it it's fascinating. If you look at civics, they're polling.
Democrats right now actually think the economy is good.
What?
Wait, how could you genuinely think the economy is good right now?
I'm confused.
Yeah, that's unbelievable.
Let's see this article.
Now here we are not understanding human motivation.
Yeah, there you go.
How could you think this economy is good?
It seems like a human thing.
Let me see if I can pull this up.
And I don't think it's fair to say necessarily that they're saying it's the best.
Right now, 36% of people in general think that the economy is fairly good.
But hold on, hold on.
Let's do it by Democrat only.
Oh, my.
58% of Democrats think the economy is doing good right now.
20% say fairly bad. 9% now. 20% say fairly bad.
9% unsure.
7% say very good.
Well, because that's the kind of economy that they want.
Businesses are shutting down.
People aren't able to provide services to the public.
They're not able to keep their door open.
But a bunch of people who aren't working are getting money from the government.
To them, that's a good economy.
Hold on, hold on.
No, I think I have an answer to this.
If you switch to Republican, 40% say very bad, 38% say fairly bad, and 17% say fairly good.
Among independent voters, 33% say fairly bad, 29% say very bad, and 29% say fairly good.
I'll tell you what this is.
It's people who watch CNN.
You're a Democrat, and you're sitting there watching CNN with drool pouring out of your mouth.
And they're like, everything is great.
The economy is recovered.
And you're like, it's insanity.
It's insanity.
Meanwhile, Republicans are like, my 401k is not doing so well.
I'm buying gas.
I'm out of work right now.
I might be out of work, and other people I know might be out of work.
But the economy is doing well because the media told me it is.
And we're getting checks from the government right now and that can last forever
and we're going to keep being locked down because variant after variant is going to pop up and
they're never going to let us go back to our jobs until we get the seventh and eighth and ninth dose
of the vaccine but no yeah things are great the economy's doing fine it's on a rebound a direct
i think uh it's the result of the way that the public school teaches kids zero about economics
i mean i learned about money d, and nickels in first grade,
and I think that was the last they ever taught me about economics until college.
I had to take an economics course.
We had banking in my school.
We had minor stuff, but I didn't understand compound interest.
I didn't understand the way that works.
If you look at the numbers and you know compound interest, you can see that it's not good.
We had, in second grade, they opened up bank accounts for kids.
That's awesome.
Oh, awesome.
We also had mock presidential elections.
That's great.
But I think that might have been a polling thing
to see what the kids would say.
And so I remember being a little kid
and they had one of those old dot matrix computers
and they had everyone on the line
and they were like,
pick who you want to be president.
And I was like, Raspiro.
Raspiro.
No, I'm serious.
That's when Tim started being a contrarian.
Somebody's got to put that in a hit piece.
I guess I vaguely remember this.
I'm probably getting it wrong because I was probably like,
I don't know how old I was, six or something.
Seven. And because
what they were trying to do was to see what kids would
say and it showed what their parents were thinking.
And so, you know, my parents, I think
voted for Bill Clinton, but for some reason I was like, yeah, Raspereau.
Yeah, I tried to get my dad to vote for Ross Perot.
He was like, I want to vote for Clinton.
I don't know.
Vote for Perot.
Vote for Perot.
I couldn't vote.
But the economy is on fire.
And we're watching this controlled collapse of everything.
So we were just talking about this previously.
But you combine this with abolition of police, defunding of police.
You combine this with Joe Biden defying
the Supreme Court and just threatening people with jail for not, you know. Well, this is a
consequence of having a system where the people who make all of the decisions will still have
firearms from their private security when they ban your guns, will still have private security
when they defund the police, will still be getting their paychecks from their corporate donors when they shut the economy down and your business gets destroyed.
They face absolutely no consequences for making decisions that ruin life for the average American.
I think we are in a simulation.
Why is that?
Because they're just like whoever is running it.
They're like increase the difficulty.
Are they reacting?
No.
Increase the difficulty again.
Did they start
reacting no okay crank it up to 12 how many 12 oh geez they're still not doing anything
like it feels like they're just slowly turning up the knob on the pressure and people are just like
okay with it like no turn the difficulty up but tell them the economy is doing really good and
see how many of them actually believe that well that, that's part of the difficulty. I mean, it's like propaganda, telling everyone everything's fine.
But they're saying things like staff shortages, food shortages, gas shortages.
And it's becoming impossible to run your business.
Dude, what a bungling of this to give people unemployment that they will lose if they take their job back.
In a lot of countries, they would just – companies that had to let people go for covid the government would pay the people that
they had let go because they were still working there and then when they were able to go back
they would just go back to the job they are keep getting paid now by the job again they're creating
an addiction to government yeah now people if they go back to work they lose their government
paycheck and their government insurance you know it's unemployment, which you get taxed on for some reason.
It's an insurance payout.
You're getting the equivalent of $16 an hour not to work.
And you're looking at all these jobs, and you're like, but even if I take it, I lose this.
I'm going to ride this out.
Those people have to pay taxes on that unemployment.
And I don't know if they're even planning for that.
I mean, how can you when you're living paycheck to paycheck?
You know what I find remarkable is that we had Voshosh on the show just, you know, two days ago,
he was in favor,
he was like,
I'm in favor of UBI.
And I'm like,
have you not read the news,
good sir?
Like, you know,
with respect,
I'm glad he came on
and had a good conversation,
but I disagree with him.
I'm like,
have you not read the news
or watched what's going on
because we're giving
these people money?
And you hear this propaganda,
the anti-work on Reddit,
it's like one of the,
you know what's funny is like Reddit's got a lot of lazy people, I tell you this.
Not Reddit.
Not Reddit.
They're like, we shouldn't have to work.
It's like, okay, invent replicators, and I got no problem with that.
It's like you can sit around and just say, the tea, Earl Grey, hot, and then you're not going to work.
But everything else requires work because of, I don't know, the second law of thermodynamics.
But anyway, we're in UBI.
This is it.
I said this.
I remember I was hanging out when I was on Joe Rogan.
He asked me, like, what do you think about UBI?
And I was like, I think people wouldn't want to work.
And then you get these leftists saying, like, oh, that's not true.
Actually, you know what my favorite question is?
Like, Ian, I mean, no, no, no, I'm sorry, Seamus.
Yes, you're not Ian.
How many people do you know play the guitar? I'm going to answer this one. How many what? How many people do you know play the guitar? Play the guitar? Oh, man, that. I'm sorry. Seamus. Yes? You're not even. How many people do you know play the guitar?
I want to answer this one.
How many what?
How many people do you know play the guitar?
Play the guitar?
Oh, man.
That's a good question.
I went to an art school, Tim.
So you're looking at a disproportionate sample here.
But probably, like, let's say I know five people who play guitar.
And how many of them are bad at guitar?
Oh, man.
I don't know.
I don't ask my friends to play for me.
I'm just like, I'm sure you're great.
Like, I just don't even ask them to.
How many do you think are like?
No, I think, here's the thing. The only people i know who play guitar are people i know who play because
like i've been to their shows and stuff so they're decent they're good um but i'm sure i know plenty
of people who are bad at guitar most people know like everybody plays some kind of instrument to
some degree not everybody but like a lot of people and so most most people will be like oh i know a
few people who play the guitar and how many are bad i know a few of them are pretty bad do you
think the people who are bad would stop working and try to become famous musicians?
Oh, I could see it happening.
Yeah.
I know a number of them, especially when they're younger.
I grew up in Chicago.
I knew tons of people who had well-off parents who were like, I'm going to make music.
And I'm like, bro, you're not good at this.
Like, you're not going to be a celebrity doing this.
And that's the thing about UBI.
You give someone money to not produce.
So here's what it basically means.
You're giving someone money, which is access to extract from the system.
Yes.
And then instead of putting anything meaningful back in, they make bad music.
Yeah, exactly.
So this is interesting because you can take it a step further.
A lot of people want to have a YouTube channel or a Twitch channel.
They want to find some way to make money with social media.
And when you're starting, you can hit a point where maybe you're able to make a couple hundred
dollars a month.
That doesn't necessarily mean you're cut out for the industry.
That doesn't mean this is going to be something that will turn into a full-time career.
But that UBI plus a couple hundred dollars a month from whatever you're doing on social
media could push you over the edge and actually be enough for you to live off of.
So it gives you an unrealistic idea of what your prospects are.
And social media is one example.
But there are all sort of arenas where you might be able to make a little bit of money.
And that combined with the stipend you're getting from the government could be enough to live off of.
But that's not where your labor is most productively used by the majority of people giving to and receiving from the economy.
So you're actually doing a net disservice to the country overall and to the economy overall.
Exactly.
So my view of this is like, okay, here's an option.
Easy access to grants for young people.
You turn 18.
You can now go to the local grant center, which is very easy to go to, present your little pamphlet and be like, here's what I want to do.
And then request a certain amount of money to engage in that project.
Because one of the issues that I hear a lot from the UBI crowd is, think about all the talented people who are stuck working a crappy job because if they quit, they'd lose their apartment.
They'd be homeless.
And I'm like, that's true.
There are a lot of young people of great talent.
I know growing up people who are insanely good at skateboarding. And I was like, man, these guys got to go pro. Sorry. They didn't
have the sponsors. They didn't have the means to film and they had to work. Otherwise they'd lose
their job or they'd lose their apartment. And I was like, if this guy was just given a little bit
of money so he could skate, we'd have great, another great pro. So how about instead of the
worst of both worlds, we do the best of both worlds. You got to work to pay your bills.
And at a certain age, you can say, like, here's my plan.
I'm a young person.
And then get a grant.
And that's it.
That's your chance.
It's complicated, though, because you have to ask the question, even if there are many
talented people in a particular field who don't have an opportunity to try to enter
it, you have to ask how many people with that particular talent can the economy support?
So let's say everyone who's good at skateboarding is able to get this grant where they can become a professional skateboarder.
I mean, realistically, how many professional skateboarders can our economy even support?
I don't think so.
We're not offering an infinite or indefinite amount of money.
It's here's a grant to run your business.
And they have to have a plan.
They come to you with a plan saying, I would like a grant for this particular project.
For sure.
I thought, so it sounded to me like the point
that you were making was,
we'll tap into all sorts of talent
we haven't gotten before.
But my concern is,
we'll give a lot of money to people
and they'll end up with a lot of debt
and they're not really going to end up contributing.
Why would they end up in debt?
Well, because they don't end up successfully taking,
oh, a grant.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
And I'm not talking about a hundred grand.
I'm talking about a few thousand dollars.
Yeah.
So it's like they can take that like they can invest some money into something.
Basically saying, can we invest in young people
instead of indebting young people and putting them in colleges
that just grind them to dirt?
Yeah, well, one of the weird things is,
I'm not entirely sure how I feel about a grant,
but it is very strange that any young person can go get a loan
to go off to college even if the degree isn't going to pay off for them.
And it's obvious based on the degree they're choosing.
But if you go in with a really solid business plan at 18,
the likelihood that you're going to get a loan is extremely low.
That's insane.
That's totally backwards.
Yeah, I would agree.
Right, right, right.
And so part of the reason that we have the tuition crisis
that we have in the student debt crisis
is because, and this is not just my personal opinion,
I think this is something that's borne out
by all the most basic rules of economics.
And if you need a citation, the National Bureau for Economic Research has said this is the case.
But colleges respond to an increase in the availability of student loans by increasing tuition costs.
I mean, so now we have absurdly expensive college costs because the government came in and said,
hey, let's help people go to college.
Well, it turns out all they did was make it more difficult for people to go.
And I don't know if it was necessarily a plan on their part.
I don't think it was.
I just think they screw up whenever they try to help.
And then, I mean, college is basically indentured servitude.
Here's the money for your opportunity, and then you've got to pay it back,
and then most people can't, and they get mad, and they demand communism,
and then I've got to pay the bill for it.
Well, I think what's even more insidious is many of them can pay it back,
I think even a majority, but the problem is the people who can pay it back.
I mean, look, there is an economic hierarchy in terms of who is able to be accepted
into college in the first place.
So if you grew up in a rough neighborhood where you weren't able to get the kind of education
that someone who went to a decent private school or a good public,
a decent public school as far as public schools go and the suburbs uh went to you're going to be less likely to get into school right so when we forgive student
debt oftentimes what it does is it redistributes wealth from working people who never had the
opportunity to go to college and towards people who started out in the upper class and then went
to college who are no longer being expected to pay off the debts, which they voluntarily encourage.
Right, so this is what – I actually responded to a leftist with this, and I was – on Twitter.
I thought I was going to get just like all these leftists screaming at me because they're like,
Kim, Paul, yeah.
Somebody said something like – they said – it was a tweet about, you know,
when you say we shouldn't pay back someone's – you know, forgive student debt because you had to pay it off,
you're basically saying they should suffer because you did.
No.
And my response was,
I just don't think it's right to make working class people
pay off the debts of the highest income earners in the country.
And people actually like, that's a good point.
Yeah.
College degree, people with college degrees
earn higher salaries on average than people without them.
Why should working class people pay off the debts of the highest income earners?
We are funneling money to the top tier?
No way, dude.
Do the inverse.
How about we make the college students with their high incomes pay their fair share?
Pay your fair share.
Well, I mean, often those people end up going into the 1% and paying an absorbent amount
in taxes.
But I think- Well, the 1% is still 1% of people.
Well, again, even the top 10%.
I mean, the higher income earners pay the majority of taxes.
How about these people who took out student loans pay their fair share?
They got free money.
And now they want working poor people, the proletariat, to pay their bills off?
No, it's actually true.
Pay your fair share, college debt holders. bills off? No, it's actually true. Pay your fair share, college
debt holders. You should define fair.
It's actually true. Bernie Sanders and Buzzword.
I'll tell you what fair share is.
Fair share is, and to be
fair, I'm not talking about exorbitant interest
rates that compound. They can't pay off.
I think the interest is unfair.
Yes, I agree.
My stance has always been,
we can stop the interest rates and say pay back your remaining principal.
That's your fair share.
But what they're saying right now is Joe Biden could snap his fingers and erase all federal debt for college students.
Why doesn't he do it?
Because that would be you not paying your fair share, diluting the economy, and it would be an invisible tax on the working class.
So you got free money.
You got to spend it. You pay your fair share no no hold on i agree with you that the the the the
interest rates are insane wrong and broken 100 that we get rid of yeah yeah no i mean it's insane
that you could charge interest on a loan that's guaranteed i understand some small amount to hedge
against inflation but the idea right people like one percent over the lifetime yeah or you know
you know something adequate to um something adequate to offset the value that will be lost through
inflation but not so much that you're able to profit off the idea of like profiting off of
a guarantee or even just like uh if if you take out 10 grand you owe an extra hundred dollars
like look if we're trying to invest in young young people to be better able and better capable, then I think we can give out straight loans with inflationary interest.
But at a certain point, you should be able to pay back just to the principal.
The interest rates are insane.
They compound.
It gets higher.
I hear too many stories from people who are like, I took out $40,000 and now I owe 80.
That's completely insane. That's completely insane.
That's completely insane.
It shouldn't.
I think if you're out of work, it should just stop.
I don't know, man.
The system's broken.
And I'll tell you this.
Before we even get into any of that stuff, I'm like, we need to – I'm totally – you know what?
I'll tell you this.
Here's my compromise.
I will personally accept a greater amount of debt to be erased outside of interest if it also means
we either seize the endowments from the universities or, and I mean that half-jokingly,
or we outright end the college loan debt pipeline. That whole thing has to stop.
Well, I mean, no, they absolutely have to stop federally guaranteeing student loans. That's the
only way it comes back. Well, let me actually be clear. There's going to be a bubble at some point right at some i mean the bubble's going to pop at some point i should say
we're already in a bubble this can't sustain itself forever but it's just clear that eventually
they're going to have to stop federally subsidizing these loans and certainly making the problem worse
that they do subsidize them so they have to stop it's going to pop either way though let's let's
let's let's circle back sure circle back we're going to circle back to uh the COVID lockdowns in this business and the economy because we have this story that I find particularly interesting.
Now, in the previous segment, we were talking about a business that accrued $400,000 in fines over violating these COVID restrictions.
Now, with the vaccine mandates that are popping up, well, for the most, with private businesses and now in New York from a public place, we got this story from TimCast.com. Boston's Democrat mayor compares vaccine passports
to papers required during slavery and Jim Crow.
Interesting.
That's bold.
Democrat Boston mayor Kim Janey has compared vaccine passports
to the papers required, slavery and Jim Crow.
The first black person to serve as mayor of the city
also compared vaccine passports to demands
that former President Obama show his birth certificate during the birtherism scandal.
I mean, this is this is I agree.
I'm not going to pretend to know about, you know, these these horrible, horrible things throughout history.
But what I say, I agree, is that it is an overbearing demand from the state on regular people to implement these things to the extent that you can't go to a store, you can't go to a bar, you can't go to a music venue or something. Now, in New York, I don't think they're saying,
I think you can go to stores still. They're saying indoor activities. But as far as I'm concerned,
if you mandate a vaccine for one thing, let's say they were like, you need a vaccine to go to
the hot dog stand on 7th Street. You've mandated vaccines. It's over. As far as I'm concerned, because you've hit at a core function for many people. I don't care who
or how many. So when they say, if you want to go out to eat, you need to have your vaccine and
vaccine card. New York is mandated vaccines, period. There's no other reason to argue about it.
That's wrong. We saw that with the offspring drummer, Pete. I think Pete Pratt is his name.
He's got Guillain-Barre syndrome.
Right.
I think so.
And so he couldn't get it.
He couldn't get the vaccine.
And now he's kicked out of the band.
Is that what we're going to create?
We're going to create this medical segregation.
Is he actually kicked out of the band?
Yes.
That's insanity.
Yeah.
What?
He went to the doctor.
He had a young age.
He developed Guillain-Barre syndrome,
which is an extremely rare side effect for people
when they get some vaccines and there's it emerges for other reasons too but it can be a side effect
it is a side effect of the johnson and johnson vaccine and there are many doctors who advise
against hitting the vaccine if you have this syndrome which he did out of the band you're
gone sanity isn't that a vibe like don't we have violations of like the americans with disabilities act can't we be like if you're experiencing this and it's limiting to you like
we we we we protect you in that regard well i think at this point it becomes very clear that
it's all about having you bend the knee if anyone was unaware um if a person is disabled and has a
very good medical reason for not getting vaccinated and your response is to kick them out because they
haven't taken your preferred route for handling this situation.
It's obvious that what you're interested in is submission.
It's not about public health.
Let me pull up the story we have from the Daily Mail.
More than half of unvaccinated Americans believe COVID-19 shots are more dangerous than the virus itself, poll finds.
Over half of unvaccinated Americans, 53%, believe that COVID-19 vaccines pose a higher health risk than the virus itself poll finds over half of unvaccinated americans 53 believe that covid19 vaccines pose a
higher health risk than the virus itself the view is especially prominent among americans who say
they're definitely not getting the vaccine with 75 believing the vaccine is more dangerous
in fact the virus is far more dangerous out of 243 000 americans who died of covid since january
2021 only 1 300 have been unvaccinated still the indian delta variant is
persuading some to get their shots with 22 of unvaccinated respondents saying the variant
was a vaccination motivator i don't know the the full percentage numbers but um yeah the the the
virus is far more dangerous well you said died from covid right you read that that phrase from covid uh died of covid
of covid how many how many people have died of covid uh let's see out of 243 000 americans who
have died since january 2021 only 1 300 have been unvaccinated so wait what 200 that's not correct
i don't know these numbers but they're saying that 230 000 people died of covid i've seen
reports that people had covid in their system and died of a motorcycle accident or some other thing with COVID.
They died with COVID, not necessarily of COVID.
But there was another.
That's wrong.
That's wrong.
They wrote the story wrong.
The story.
It's they did it wrong.
Out of 243,000 COVID deaths.
Later on, they fix it.
Only 1,300 have occurred in vaccinated Americans.
The top said have been unvaccinated, as if to imply the vaccine was more dangerous.
So Daily Mail, get an editor.
I'm nervous when people say that we're in lockdowns because we're in shutdowns.
And I'm nervous when people say that people died of COVID when they died with a comorbidity we're not in a shutdown right now ian well over the last year in 2020 we had gone
through periods of shutdown and i heard people say lockdown locked they like that word that
buzzword it's a lock lock they want it to be bad did lockdown but there were lots of instances of
shutdown that people were calling lockdown let's not make it worse than it seems. We don't have to make it seem worse than it is.
Saying that people died.
We're phrasing.
It's subtle little language twists that people do to control this narrative right now.
You're saying to tell people to accept that they're barred from leaving their homes or going to their jobs.
No, but I'm saying if it's a lockdown, if there's if an area gets shut down, don't say that it's locked down by lock and key.
It's just, oh, businesses aren't open.
That doesn't mean you can't walk around outside.
It's not a lockdown state.
That's called apologizing for authoritarianism.
No, if we say that we have lockdowns and we keep saying it, then the government will put them into place and people will passively let it happen because they're used to hearing it.
We had shutdowns for the most part.
No, we had lockdowns.
The United States.
We maybe had a few instances of things being locked down, but for the most part, the United
States was very leniently shut down as opposed to Australia.
Massively locked down.
Like you're saying, where are you drawing the line?
Where the police don't let people go outside.
They're arresting people for walking around.
That happened in the US.
Very, very rarely, though.
For the most part.
But we had lockdowns.
There were some instances of it. It was very rare. And i argue it violates the constitution it's semantics it's
shut down lockdown what's the difference it's because if you tell people that we're locked
down for all of 2020 then when they actually start locking it down people will be used to it
because they they thought it was already happening well i'll tell you this look man obviously that
daily mail story was wrong because it contradicted itself,
which is why I always say talk to your doctor about what's right for you.
And there's another good reason, too, because I got a feeling like whatever ends up happening in the long run,
people are going to come back and they're going to be like Tim said X or Y,
and I'm not going to be the person who's going to be responsible for your health decision.
So by all means, you could be in the comments right now saying Tim is dumb.
I would appreciate it.
Great, because I don't want anybody putting the responsibility on me for your health decisions.
Nah, Seamus, you go talk to your doctor.
I have a whole bunch for buddies.
Seamus, we have conversations.
He was like, I'm going to do everything you say.
I went to my doctor, and I had a hidden camera when I was talking to Tim, and I showed it to my doctor.
I was like, how much can we get from him?
How much money can we get from this guy?
Seamus went to the –
And he's like, you should have talked to your lawyer.
Talk to your lawyer about how much money you can get from Tim Pool after you shoot him.
Seamus went into the kitchen where we have all the vitamins, and he just grabbed like C, D, A, multivitamins.
He's just chugging them, and he's like, it's healthy.
Tim said so.
And I'm like, no, Seamus, stop.
That's true, yeah.
So here's the interesting thing, though.
They say that half of people – let me see exactly what they said.
They said more than half of unvaccinated Americans believe that they're more dangerous than the virus itself.
Well, that makes sense.
So I'm going to pull up the story.
This is from UPMC, University of Pittsburgh and Carnegie Mellon University.
Researchers identified groups hesitant about COVID-19 vaccine.
This is the most fascinating to me. The study says the largest decrease in hesitancy between January and May by education group
was in those with a high school education or less.
Hesitancy held constant in the most educated group, those with a PhD.
By May, PhDs were the most hesitant group.
While vaccine hesitancy decreased across virtually all racial groups,
black and Pacific Islanders
had the largest decreases,
joining Hispanics and Asians
at having lower vaccine hesitancy
than whites in May.
Why?
I have no answer for that.
Well, the data.
I mean, if you listen to,
you know, Peak Prosperity,
Chris Martinson,
if you listen to Brett Weinstein
and Pierre Corey.
That's wrong.
They're scientists that just fish data and the data speaks for itself no that no no it literally doesn't we had chris
martinson on the show and with all due respect he's a very smart man he's got a phd and i think
in toxicology and when we talked with him he said here's 53 studies on ivermectin and then i googled
it and found a whole bunch more saying the exact opposite the data doesn't speak for itself we'll
have to go into it on the after show there's some there's some studies that i've seen that have just been mind-blowing bro we we literally i i pulled
up studies and there's so there's studies that say these things these treatments do nothing
and there are studies saying they do some things none of these treatments are fda approved the
point is the data does not speak for itself. Well, I disagree.
I think this is why PhDs are among the most hesitant is because it's data heavy.
It comes down to the data.
I mean, you got to look at what was polio doing to people.
It was crippling children.
The data was showing that people were, little kids were like losing their ability to walk permanently.
That's like screaming data.
We haven't seen that kind of data with this i mean there's been a lot
of illness 600 and what are we at 620 000 dead with that had died with covid and when they phrase
it of covid that's that's kind of a manipulation because a lot of it is comorbid and people have
obesity and they die with like a heart failure but they had covid in their system so it gets logged
covid is like the uh the he like you
know it covet pulls the pin out and then the train goes off the rails you know what i mean so it's
like people who may have survived with comorbidities don't when they get tough to say it's that that's
a situation where you don't know what it would have been without it because it didn't have it
what the data is saying well you don't know if they hadn't gotten covet what would have happened
because they had gotten covet i hear from people all the time.
They're like, hey, I read this about this, that, or otherwise.
And I'm like, I'm going to read that.
And then I find conflicting information from legitimate sources.
And I'm like, I can't draw an honest conclusion.
Go talk to your doctor.
Because when Chris Martinson was here and he said 53 studies, I said, great, let's pull them up.
And I pulled them up.
I'm like, that's really fascinating.
And then I Googled other studies to see if there was a contradiction.
Sure enough, I found several, many.
And I'm like, I asked him, these studies say the opposite.
And he goes, oh, well, that study was bad.
And I'm like, how are you going to come to me and tell me this study is good, this study
is bad when they're both studies?
I'm a layman.
And I can respect him because I think he's a smart guy and he knows more about it than
I do.
And I can respect Brett Weinstein.
But then there are many other doctors that I see writing stories who don't appear overtly political who are saying the inverse.
I suppose it's just I've seen Chris Martinson, Pierre Corey, Brett Weinstein.
Brett's not a doctor, not a virologist.
He's a biologist.
But he's a very smart scientist.
Pierre Corey is a virologist.
Is Chris Martinson a virologist? Yeah, but, bro, what I'm telling you is if you only watch one thing and then say,
that must be true, the data doesn't speak for itself when you can pull up contradictory information.
Okay, maybe, yeah, you're right.
Data doesn't speak for itself.
But I did get this from reputable sources.
That's the reason I'm—
And I got contradictory information from reputable sources as well.
Which sources?
We pulled them up on the show.
How deep can we go right now on this?
I remember touching on it. I don't remember remember like i literally did these studies who paid these people
to do these studies you see that's the problem when people say well your organization is no good
because of this that or what but yeah but your organization i'm like dude that means literally
nothing but the problem is some organizations will do studies specifically to derive a specific
result political reasons people make observations or determinations or trust.
I try my best to avoid doing that.
And so this is what guides most of my work, is that if I see some conservative guy come out and say that, you know, you've got to buy your gold.
And then the Democrat guy comes out and says, you've got to buy silver.
I'll be like, well, we've got two contradictory people giving contradictory advice.
Can I find source information to vet which one is better?
Hey, I looked it up. Gold's worth more. So when it comes to these studies,
you see conflicting studies. Do you just dismiss them all or do you go deeper and try and figure out which studies are right or which ones are more accurate? So the issue is when you look at a study,
what can you really determine about it? There's a doctor named Dr. John Smith or whatever his name
is. And I'm like, OK, so I can look him up. And then I find ain for a guy and i'm like okay and i look up here's his university and then i find a
dr jane doe and i look her up and i'm like well they both disagree with each other i can't make
a determination what am i supposed so what am i supposed what am i supposed to tell people right
if there's conflicting information same when they say buy gold buy silver you have to kind of do
some deep research to figure out which study is legit there are people who want to believe one
or the other and they may have reason to and i'm not saying they're wrong i'm saying i haven't been
able to find anything strong and so therein lies the big issue it's why i don't definitively come
out and say you must do x or y i say talk to someone you trust in the medical field because
when we have when i see these things you know when i to these – like Chris Martinson, he's on the show twice now.
I'm like I – I pulled up a study that he said was positive for alternate treatments.
And then I Googled the study and found another paper that said the methodology was flawed.
It was not a good study because of these reasons.
Then I pulled up a study saying these alternative treatments were ineffective.
And he said to me, oh, but those studies are flawed because they're, you know,
and I'm like, okay, dude, with all due respect. Those things are ineffective because we never
tested them for efficacy. They'll do that sometimes. I'm saying we sat here, we have
the episode, it's on timcast.com, where I was like, I can pull up something saying literally
what you just said in the other direction. They would say that about aspartame. They'd say,
there's no evidence aspartame has any'd say, there's no evidence aspartame
has any links to cancer because we never
studied aspartame.
That's totally irrelevant to what we're talking about.
That's medical logic sometimes.
I'm talking about fact-finding
and determining
to the best of our abilities, truth.
And you can argue that you trust or don't
trust a particular political faction
or those who advocate for a certain direction. I don think that's good enough i want proof now there's a
there's a good reason i think not just the media but we have a big issue now when the cdc comes out
and says here's a list of things and i'm like okay well i do have a personal bias against
government for a lot of reasons but if i can't disprove it that puts me in a difficult position
so why do you think uh that it's mostly PhD people that are...
That's why I said I have no answer for that.
It's hard to know also because you don't know what their PhDs are in.
Right. It could be like...
Who said this before? You were saying it could be like
feminist dance class.
It could be like a PhD in lesbian poetry. I have no idea.
Right. So we have no idea.
That's why I say it's interesting.
But I'm seeing a lot of people highlight that as if that's evidence
of something. And I'm like, it's just a group of people.
Maybe they're activists who hate Donald Trump because they're in universities.
How many people was polled here?
It was like 2,000 people.
I guess it was.
You're also you're so what you're doing.
This is data from people who are saying that they were already against getting the vaccine.
It's probably I mean, it could very well just be the case that if someone has a Ph. their opinion was more likely to be backed up with statistics again whether they're ones you would agree with
or disagree with in the first place and so that locks them into it more firmly or they're more
likely to be stodgy and stubborn and thinking they're smarter than exactly well and i think
that plays into it as well um and that's exactly part of why i said statistics whether you agree
whether you would agree with them or disagree with them i think people with phds people whose brains work more
quickly are more conventionally intelligent tend to be a bit more prideful and they're also better
at convincing themselves of things here's what i'm saying that to me a phd is just a twitter
check mark in real life like right i don't really trust it all that much but here's here's what i'm
saying all the information we present you can take into consideration however you see fit but i if i can't
make a determination i'm not going to make one so your i i need i need sources before i come out and
say something and you know i i get things wrong every so often or jump the gun it happens i'm far
from perfect but i try to avoid things if i can't prove it your point about studies is interesting
because i feel like they do this every other month with dietary stuff.
Fats are bad.
Fats are good.
Use this oil.
Don't use this oil.
This is going to kill you.
You're going to get cancer from coffee.
Coffee is good for your heart.
Coffee cures depression for women.
What am I supposed to think?
So I think that in the end really boils down to one, individual rights and two, common sense.
And like I don't even know what to tell you.
It's not like a whole read the studies thing because you're not going to understand all talk to your doctor but you know
you know who yes and you know who you should which doctor i don't think you should talk to is dr
we got this story we got the story from we got this story we got the story we got the story from
reuters u.s plans to give extra covid 19 shots shots to at-risk Americans. Fauci says that is
the third shot for people who are in at-risk groups. If you are immunocompromised, people
like cancer survivors, those who are HIV positive, they are saying that they are trying to rush
through approval for your third shot. Now, over in Israel, we have this from Voice of America.
After another COVID spike, Israel launches third vaccine dose.
They say Israel has become the first country to distribute a third dose of the COVID vaccine,
offering the extra jab to anyone over 60.
Israeli health experts say the effectiveness of the current vaccine declines with time,
and the third shot will serve as a booster.
The move comes as virus rates in Israel are on the increase.
Now, this is crazy viral video, which they say is a report from Israel's Channel 13,
where they say in this Twitter, in this Twitter, which this tweet, which I've not confirmed
a translation that the hospitalization rates are overwhelmingly those who have been vaccinated.
And Israel is saying we are not finding this to be effective.
Now, I don't know if that's true.
Yeah, well, and also we have to know what percentage of the population is vaccinated too because if an overwhelming
majority of the population is vaccinated an overwhelming you know majority are in the
hospital it's proportional then we could say well it doesn't seem to be working in this instance but
if a majority are in the hospitals whereas an overwhelming majority is vaccinated then
it seems it would be working to some extent or you could make that argument so we don't really know
they say an israeli study showed effectiveness of the COVID vaccine declined from 95% to 80%.
Oh, wow.
Or even less against the Delta variant.
Neither the US nor the EU has yet recommended a third shot.
But most Israeli doctors say they do not believe it will do any harm.
Now, we had a story we pulled up the other day from Timcast.com that shows, I think it was like Pfizer and AstraZeneca to be like 92% and 96% effective against the Delta variant.
So all I can do is tell you this.
Talk to your doctor.
Because I don't – I know – for those on the live show, like right now it's more repetitive, but in the segments, like –
Yeah.
So we have to say it because I don't know what this means.
I really, really don't.
Israel is making a lot of claims that a lot of people in the U.S.
are shocked to hear
and don't know if they want to believe,
to be completely honest,
that Israel is saying about the effectiveness.
So here's why I bring this up.
Not only is that happening,
but the World Health Organization
is calling for a temporary moratorium
on vaccine booster shots
because they want to prioritize
global distribution of the vaccine to poorer nations.
Okay, so I have no idea.
I can tell you this.
It sounds like humans run around, like these organizations,
are like chickens with their head cut off.
Is that true, though?
Do you cut a chicken's head off?
It runs around?
Yes.
I'm not sure.
I mean, you're the one with chickens, Tim.
I'm not.
Are you cutting their heads off?
I know.
He just doesn't want to admit it on stream because, you know,
Petey's going to get it. That's true. My family raised chickens. He'll get canceled. Really? Yeah, yeah. It's true, Tim. I'm not cutting their heads off. He just doesn't want to admit it on stream because you know Petey's going to get it.
That's true.
My family raised chickens. He'll get canceled.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, it's true, though.
Don't get canceled.
My family raised chickens,
and yes, this is the thing that actually happens.
They run around, their heads are cut off.
Yeah, it's a reflex.
Wow.
I never questioned that.
No, of course not.
Nor should you.
Creepy.
Yeah, I'm curious.
I am curious what percentage of the population
in Israel is vaccinated.
What percentage of new cases did they say were vaccinated people?
Well, there's a tweet.
And I don't speak Hebrew, so I can't really confirm that anyway.
But people are claiming that there's a doctor who says it's like the overwhelming majority of the COVID patients in the hospitals have been vaccinated.
That is fascinating.
But, again, I can't confirm any of that stuff.
All I know is that Fauci is rushing out a third shot here in America for people who are immunocompromised.
The eviction moratorium was illegally, a new one was illegally put in place, and the unemployment checks are going out.
So it smells like lockdown, I guess.
You know, they say if it walks like a lockdown, acts like a lockdown, and sounds like a lockdown, then it's probably a lockdown, right?
Probably a lockdown.
Yeah, exactly. I'm hearing from Reuters. Their numbers say that the number of doses in Israel administered has been 11 million.
And so if that's at two doses per person, that's 63.2% of the country being vaccinated.
It's a little bit higher than the U.S.
I think the U.S.'s rate was like, what, 49% or something like that?
The United States' rate of vaccinations?
Well, I have some daddy here saying that they asked adults,
and they found that 7 in 10 adults said they have already gotten it
or are getting it as soon as possible.
So something like 67% have already gotten it,
and 3 more percent say they're going to get it as soon as possible.
Australia is like 18%.
Why is that? They've gotten vaccinated? Yeah. I think they just don to get it as soon as possible. Australia is like 18%. Why is that?
They've gotten vaccinated?
Yeah.
I think they just don't trust their government.
I guess.
I don't know.
It could also...
Australian is not...
I think Australia's population is much more spread out.
I think maybe if your government is not treating you very well, then you're probably not going
to be too happy.
Okay.
No, it's higher right now.
Okay.
Oh, no, no, no.
Yeah, fully vaccinated.
16%.
Whoa.
Wow, that's low.
Yikes.
Wow.
At least one dose is 34.2%.
Wow.
That's so bad.
Where?
In Australia.
So that's of the population?
Yeah, of the population.
16.3% are fully vaccinated.
Wow, that's really, really low.
It's abysmal.
Wow, yeah.
Yeah.
Why is that?
That's like the most heavily
cracked down country on Earth
right now.
That's probably why.
Because it's heavily
cracked down upon it.
I also think it's
the population density.
It is really,
it's something like...
Sparsely populated?
Yeah, sparsely populated.
So the numbers I have here are
there's three people
per squared kilometer,
and in the united states the
average population density is 94 people um yeah but they've got cities dude no i'm not saying
they don't but i don't i think that more of their population lives in rural areas what's the
population of australia yeah it's tough to say it's actually it's tough to say based on average
numbers but i think their population is more spread out than ours is.
Their population is what, like 25 million or something?
It's not that many, yeah.
So we have 10 times.
Yeah.
So they have big cities, you know, and they've got military deployed to enforce the lockdown. Yeah, no, I'm not saying they don't have big cities, but I'm saying overall they're less densely populated,
which means there are more people who live further away from other people who contact them often.
That's what I'm saying.
You don't think Australia's average population is less dense than the United other people who contact them often. That's what I'm saying.
You don't think Australia's average population is less dense than the United States? I'm saying Australia is as big as the U.S. with a tenth of the population.
So it's not that they're living further away from each other.
I get what you're saying.
It's that there's a big open outback of desert nothing in the middle of the continent.
Okay, I get what you're saying.
What was U.S. population density?
How many people?
370 million? No, density, continent. Okay, I get what you're saying. What was U.S. population density? How many people? 370 million?
No, density, density. Oh, the population density? 94
people per square meter. And Australia was like
nine? Oh, actually, Australia is three.
So the United States
is, but the United States' information I just
gave you is miles, so if you look in kilometers,
it's 36 people per kilometer squared
words, and Australia is three people.
Ten times the population.
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
Very similar.
Similar numbers. So why is the vaccine rate in Australia 16%?
Did you pull up the vaccination rate for the U.S.?
Actually, I could probably do it right here.
I had some numbers pulled up from earlier, and it said, again, about 70% of people have already gotten it or are getting it as soon as possible.
Wow.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, it's 50.4% of people in the United States are fully vaccinated. Wow. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's 50.4% of people in the United States are fully vaccinated.
165 million people. At least one dose is 58.7%. Australia, 16.3%. I think when you crack down,
when you start arresting people for not wearing masks and you deploy military,
people are not going to trust you.'m also curious what australia is like culturally too i i wonder if they're as divided as the united
states is or if there's a more unified front in terms of the skepticism that they have towards
government mandates well authoritarianism this is why it doesn't work because you lose you you
lose the faith and the confidence of the people and so we were having this conversation i think it was um i don't know if it was with
washington charlie in the bonus segment or something about like uh authoritarianism is
effective in that you can mandate things really really quickly and that's technically true the
problem is it derails itself it falls apart because if you don't have confidence of the
people the system can't be supported the the government is an imaginary construct of people's confidence like why is a dollar valuable
if you showed a dollar to you know an alien they'd be like it's i don't need this what am i
gonna do with it now gold they might understand like ah you know a conductor i can do something
with this money they're gonna be like sure i don't know what you you like this they might
think it's a really cool picture yeah like oh it, oh, it's a picture, and they put it on the wall
and tape it. There's different kinds of... It's not functional.
...of authoritarianism, too. There's the
authority of one man, which
is like totalitarian, you know, dictatorship.
And then there's the authority of a
constitution, like a written document. And that's
also a form of authoritarianism?
No, it isn't. It's really not, but it is
a form of authority. So they basically...
Not all authority is authoritarian.
Right.
The Founding Fathers...
Authoritarianism is generally used as a pejorative.
Ian, the Founding Fathers...
I would like to explain to you what authority is.
Go for it.
When a police officer in New York says,
You can't stand there.
That's a frozen zone.
Which is what they do.
That is not...
That is authoritarianism.
That is them just arbitrarily deciding,
I can do this.
You want to know what real authority is?
Seamus drops to the ground.
Ah, and there's blood spraying everywhere.
And a doctor looks you in the eye and says, put your hands on his neck right now.
What would you say?
Absolutely.
I would just do it.
Exactly.
If you were out on the street and you saw somebody hurt and there was a guy and he's like, I'm a doctor.
You, come here now.
Put your hands here.
You would not think twice.
Because you know that's what real authority is. But if there was some crackpot
guy in a rickshaw
and he had people pulling him and he was like,
you there! Come here and kneel
so I can walk on your back and leave my
rickshaw. You'd be like, get out of here. That's insane.
And then if he threatened you with a weapon to make you do it,
authoritarian.
I think that the reason I brought up the
Founding Fathers again
is because they established like a,
I don't know, two decades
of massive authoritarianism
in order to install a constitution
that they could step back from
and release their authority.
What do you mean by that?
Like they were like George Washington
and ultimate authority over the land.
They would have made him king.
He could have become a monarch.
That doesn't mean authoritarianism though.
But they functioned authoritatively to to build the constitution to seize the the
Washington was getting his troops vaccinated against their will you know like pure on martial
law authoritarian crackdown to win the revolutionary war that's war and then instead of one guy
maintaining authoritarianism being like and now this is is legal, but now it's not.
And now that's the new thing.
We just built a set of laws that could take over for us.
The fact that they gave up power and enacted a constitution shows it was never authoritarian.
It was just war.
I think you can use authoritarianism for good.
They seem to have.
But I don't think it was authoritarianism.
I don't think that falls in line with it.
It was, hey, we want freedom.
Oh no, they're attacking us. Quick, everyone come together. Here's what we
have to do to survive. Like, if the house started burning
down and I grabbed you and dragged you out of the house, is that
authoritarianism? Technically. No, come on, man.
I mean, if it hit the fan
and you had to, like, take control of everything.
Ian's passed out from smoke inhalation, but he hasn't chosen
to leave, so I'm leaving here. I'm not an authoritarian.
I'm leaving him in the building.
It's freedom to sleep during the fire.
I mean, it's interesting.
So the word authority and the word author come from the same place, which is creator.
Someone creates something, they have authority over it.
Or if they have given you, they've delegated the authority over their creation to another person,
then that person has authority over it.
And, of course, it comes ultimately from God creating the universe,
delegating authority to specific civil authorities.
But a belief in authority is not the same as a belief that unbridled authoritarianism is acceptable.
Yeah.
When you think of unbridled authoritarianism, do you think of it as, like, dictatorial?
Yeah.
So I would say usurpation. Anytime an authority structure absorbs the role of a smaller, more vulnerable authority
structure when it doesn't have to do so, I would call that authoritarianism. So basically, anytime
subsidiarity is violated. So I believe that there are all sorts of authority structures across
humanity. So you have the family structure, which is an authority structure. You have the father at the head of the household. And then you also have local
governments, state governments, a national government. And if one higher authority,
quote unquote, higher authority in that hierarchy comes down and takes a role which is proper to
one of the lower authorities. So for example, if the state starts to interfere with family life
in ways that are proper to a father, I believe that's authoritarianism because somebody is taking the rightful authority away from one and giving authority which is not due to another to them.
What's interesting is you said when they have to, only if they don't have to.
And you've got to define what does that mean if someone feels like they have to step in and take the authority?
Would a virus make someone think that?
I can explain to authoritarianism and libertarianism somewhat with a great way.
So the Democrats right now believe the economy is going good.
Why? Because the authority told them and they have strict adherence to the authority, which says this is what you must do.
They say, OK, the economy is good. Yes, sir.
Trump supporters were told by Trump to get the vaccine and they said no.
That's not authoritarianism.
Yeah, we live in kind of a self-authored society.
The Constitution is supposedly self-authored by us, we the people.
We're a freedom-loving people, and we are losing that freedom. What interests me is that they seized authoritarian dictatorship for a short period of time in order to create a self-authored society.
It's war.
It's a square thing.
And plus, people could have just fled, I guess.
They've been cowards and, I don't know.
To England, yeah.
It was a lot harder back then, I suppose.
But they were loyalists.
They were people who said no to the revolution.
That made me think of if we hadn't had, was it South Carolina, the slave states, if they hadn't joined us?
Not only would they just not have been in there fighting, they would have been all loyalists.
You know what would have been really funny, though, is that they would have had to abolish slavery sooner
if they remained with the crown.
But this is really interesting, actually, in that regard, because I talked about this,
because a lot of people have said if America never declared independence,
slavery would have ended 20 years earlier, and I'm like, I'm not sure that's true.
I'm not sure that's true at all.
Imagine the crown of Britain said we're mandating in 1833 the end of slavery.
The southern states would have declared independence.
But the whole British ending slavery thing is kind of a fallacy because they did what was called enclosure.
I was just watching it there on Kings and Generals YouTube channel about this yesterday.
Enclosure is basically where the lords of the land seized the land from all the civilians.
99.98% of British land is owned by like 0.01 of the population well since like the 1600s since
they started enclosure well and also if the united states was still under british rule
the economic and political incentives would be entirely different from the crown from what they
were when england wasn't overseeing the united states and decided to end slavery so i don't
think you could say that if we stayed with the crown,
slavery would have ended sooner.
I don't think you could possibly know that.
Like they might have let it roll in the Americas because it was making them so much money.
Yeah, they would just colonize.
Or because they feared some kind of revolt, right?
Because the southern states seceded and revolted.
So I have no reason to believe that the British government wouldn't have the
foresight to say,
oh, that will probably happen or could happen.
So to me, it's not something you could possibly know.
I love my English homies, man, but the British government terrifies me.
A monarchy in today's age.
Our government scares me a lot more.
But, I mean, you see, Britain, like, the Commonwealth is struggling.
Canada and Australia are getting messed up right now by authority.
And then they got the God King at the top.
Like, it's crazy.
Yeah, but it's not like the crown actually does anything.
It's a ceremonial position.
It's all behind it.
They own land is what they do.
They basically control everything through ownership.
We have that in the United States too, bro.
Kind of, but you can have...
There's a lot of private property in the U.S.
Trinity in New York, one of the largest landowners.
No, I didn't know that.
The Bureau of Land Management is.
The Vatican.
In China.
Yeah, they have a lot of land.
Yeah, that's how you do it, I guess.
You own the land like Ray Kroc.
They're like, we're not doing anything.
We just own the land.
Yeah, come on.
Own the land under the McDonald's.
That's an active process to own land.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Will we...
Yeah, I wonder what the future holds for us.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's interesting.
Live until we're 700 and, like, real healthy and stuff.
Live until 700 and be real healthy?
Well, once you get the 5,000th jab, you might make it.
Yeah, you're going to make it.
5,000.
Well, look, to be fair, they've been saying since the beginning they were expecting to be like a yearly thing.
Yeah.
Like a flu shot.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, they've said that they think this is going to be like a seasonal flu.
The issue is they didn't force me to get the flu shot.
You walk into Walgreens and they're like, would you like to?
And it's like, maybe, I guess.
I went to the doctor once.
I told the story like, you know, he He gave me four or five shots or whatever.
Yeah, I'll add once.
There's an entirely different culture around it.
People don't shame you for not getting the flu shot.
I know people that would get the flu shot and then get the flu
because their immune systems would be so beat up by the shot
that then they wouldn't be eating healthy,
and then they'd end up getting sick anyway.
What's the point?
The problem with the flu shot is that we develop it in conjunction with Australia
because their flu season is ahead of ours.
Sometimes they have a different strain of the flu than we have.
So by the time the flu shot comes here and we're using it, we're like, oh, this will work for our strain, right?
Sometimes, sometimes not.
Like there was one year I remember at the hospital, they gave us all the shot.
It was great.
It was wonderful.
Tons of people still got the flu.
It was something like 30% effective because the Australian strain just wasn't very much like the American strain.
I remember reading a while ago, this was before COVID.
This is before anyone was really talking about this before there was any, you know, seeming controversy over vaccines as far as I could tell.
But I remember reading that flu vaccines were becoming less effective on a yearly basis.
And it was a serious problem that had to be dealt with.
I think the discourse surrounding vaccines has clearly moved on to other issues, if that is the case.
It's becoming the challenge is I think one of the reasons you see these stories where people think the vaccine is more dangerous is because of the authoritarianism of the media and the left, the overstate, the cathedral, whatever you want to call it.
Because when the people who always lie to you tell you something's good, you're not going to believe them.
And they've discredited themselves over the past few years like russiagate is is you know you know what for everybody's
listening if you ever get you ever get somebody who's like you know oh you believe that stuff be
like russia yeah sorry like you lost all credibility in the new york times the washington
washington post and and cnn and all these msnbc were screaming russia for years and it was all
bunk you lost me dude sorry and also like there is precedent for them lying and moving the goalposts about this as well, this very situation.
Two weeks to slow the spread.
Oh, the idea is we just want people locked down so that the hospitals don't get overwhelmed with new patients.
And everyone forgot about that.
Yeah, everyone forgot about that.
It was two weeks to slow the spread, and the whole point was we didn't want that.
15 days?
15 days.
I'm sorry.
So a day over two weeks to slow the spread because we didn't want hospitals to get overwhelmed.
And what happened?
They didn't get overwhelmed.
Exactly.
But did we stop at two weeks?
No.
Unfortunately not yet.
So we've already been lied to about this, and the narrative has changed.
Even if you don't want to say we were lied to, the narrative clearly changed.
The goalpost has moved.
So people have no reason to believe it's not going to move if they go and get the vaccine
or do whatever else they're being told to do.
And the idea that these people would scold you and talk down to you for not taking their word for it after they've repeatedly misrepresented what the future would
be if we were to take their word for it is ridiculous the lack of self-awareness is astounding
even for them this is why i always say talk to you the droplets The droplets. The droplets. The droplets. You don't lose heat there.
I say because, because, listen, listen.
Talk to your droplets.
I don't care the politics.
There are people who make money off of shock content,
be it somebody who is like in a hospital bed going,
I wish I got the vaccine,
or somebody being like, my legs don't work.
It's like the people are going to find the stories that get the clicks,
and that's why you need to find someone you trust who's done the research.
And there are people who tell me that they don't trust their doctors.
I'm like, then you need a good doctor, dude.
Lots of doctors.
It's okay to travel from doctor to doctor.
They call them second opinions.
Get a second opinion, exactly.
This is the age of multiple opinions.
You get lots and lots of doctors' opinions.
Well, just make sure that you trust they've done their research, that they're qualified.
Because it's insane to me that anyone would think that I'm implying you go to a quack doctor in an alley.
Like, no, I'm saying you go to someone and you ask them questions, say, here's what I saw, what do you think?
And here's what I said earlier, like, if you see a story, show them.
Yeah.
See what they think.
Yeah.
And these are the questions you've got to ask.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Because if there's nothing to it, then your doctor should generally be able to explain to you,
well, sometimes these things happen or whatever it is.
But the statistics I've seen in my research shows that it is safe if it is, right?
So let me add, the doctor I had in my neighborhood, we knew our doctor.
Yes, that's huge. I was about to bring that up, actually. It's not just talking to your doctor,
and it's not just talking to a doctor who you've known or not, because maybe you don't have a
doctor who you go to primarily. It is really helpful to just have friends who are doctors.
Like a life who's a doctor, folks.
Yeah.
But if you have friends who are doctors who you genuinely trust, who you aren't necessarily
seeing, you can still talk with about this stuff.
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Christian.
Jim Gochian says, screwing landlords over is on purpose.
BlackRock can afford the losses, but mom and pop landlords can't and must sell or get foreclosed
on. Great reset.
Well, yeah, I mean, whether it's intentional, that
is certainly bound to be one of the long-term
consequences here.
Miso Trash says, happy birthday, Lids.
Thank you. Appreciate that.
Shaw Kramer says, hey, Timcast team,
Seamus, have you seen Tolstoy's Christian anarchist
argument? What do you think of the Prophet
Samuel's warning against government? Yeah, so I'moy's Christian anarchist argument? What do you think of the prophet Samuel's warning against government?
Yeah, so I'm definitely not an anarchist.
I'm and if I'm not mistaking what they're referring to with the prophet Samuel is when the people asked for a king.
And there are certainly arguments in that there are certainly warnings that people should heed about the state and the overstepping of authority. But as I mentioned earlier, authority comes by definition from what the word means, from
the author, from the creator, and the ultimate author of things is God.
So as Christians, what we believe, and I should say as Catholics more specifically, is there
are rightly ordered authority structures, including civil authorities, because scripture
also says that the king does not wield the sword in vain render into caesar uh etc so as christians we do believe that there should be some uh obedience to civil
authorities as long as they're not asking you to do anything which is contrary to the faith or
reason matthew hammond let me be clear by faith the reason i'm saying it and with respect to like
a well-formed conscience because it's a very slippery slope to say well i don't agree with
these reasons matthew hammond says when are we going to get a Freedom Tunes movie?
Oh my goodness. I would love to do something like that. I would need to figure out the funding.
What I'm trying to do right now is get Freedom Tunes to be a more well-oiled machine so I can
take on some more of these projects. So I've mentioned before we work on other projects.
I have other clients, but I really want to get Freedom Tunes specifically to be more steady so
I can step away and do some of these expansionist things
like a film or a television show or something like that.
So one thing we need in order to do that isn't just the crowdfunding,
patreon.com slash freedomtunes, but animators.
If you or anyone you know is an animator, please reach out to us.
Can I give them your jobs?
Why mine? You're hiring them.
I know because I don't have an email address that I give to the public.
We can't go through extra emails.
All right, fine.
All right.
I guess so.
Tim doesn't love me.
I'll figure out.
I'm trying to.
Well, I'm not sure where to direct people because I don't have.
Yeah, I mean, just tweet at me.
That's right.
At Seamus Coghlan.
Actually, my DMs are open.
At Seamus underscore Coghlan.
Just if you or anyone you know is an animator, please reach out because we're looking to hire more people
so that we can do those kinds of projects.
I want to see people that have mastered Seamus' art form.
I was thinking this a couple nights ago.
Oh, yeah, I bet people are just really good at drawing your art exactly,
and you could hire them.
I wish.
The last video you did fixing leftist memes was great.
Thank you so much.
I love the one where the mug, and it's like, don't.
But I tweeted it.
It said, don't confuse your Google search with my medical degree.
And then you changed it to my, my duck duck go search.
And then change it to don't confuse your Google search with my Google search.
That was the best one.
Cause that's, that's literally what it is.
Yeah.
That's, that's what it is.
90% of the time.
Well, most of the, yes.
Go watch that video.
Actually.
I won't, there's more to it.
I won't spoil the joke.
All right.
Let's read some more.
Crazy arms like this sometimes on your cartoon. Can you have them doing that while their arms were at their sides? Sometimes. All won't spoil the joke. Let's read some more Super Chats. Have crazy arms like this sometimes on your cartoon.
Can you have them doing that while their arms are at their sides sometimes?
Just for you.
Kendall Hurd says,
Last year, Adam said happy birthday to me.
Can I get another happy birthday from the TimCast
crew? Happy birthday.
Happy birthday.
Big day.
X Runner says, Leftists make a great
argument for anarcho-capitalism.
That's right. right alright let's see
Jake Mahaney
says can you guys improvise a
Fauci v. Trump skit live please
also happy birthday Lydia
we definitely improvise a Trump v. Fauci skit
we will definitely be improvising more skits
yeah so the Mordor one
from like last week
yeah that I released last week but we did that a while ago but it was because i was uh i did a joe
biden in mordor as a joke we can't even get into that because that's going to be a really good
video we can't spoil that remember no i think you started i think you started with fauci we're like
guys did it in the flames and i don't know dude i was dying and then we're like all right
we have to make
this a video.
I was just, yeah, just Fauci as Elrond.
That's so good.
Do it, Trump.
Cast it into the Wuhan wet market.
Such an incredible trilogy.
All right, let's see.
Okay.
Spare Climber says, hey, Tim, my girlfriend is a nurse at Banner and is quitting over
the vax mandate.
Could you look into the situation here in AZ at all?
Thanks.
Absolutely love the show, guys.
My girlfriend's a nurse.
Okay, folks.
I know Banner helps.
My girlfriend's a nurse.
All right.
Close.
Let's see.
Call for President says, the show isn't showing up in YouTube under the TimCast channel.
Pretty sure that's why there's so few viewers.
Happy birthday, Lydia.
Keep searching.
Expanding Earth, Ian.
Interesting.
I don't know about that.
Did you see it on the TimCast channel?
I didn't see it until two minutes before we went live.
And it was up for like 10 minutes?
Yeah, but see what they do is they don't show it to certain people.
I definitely do see it on there.
But so like...
If they don't have their vaccine passport,
if they haven't verified that they're vaccinated,
YouTube won't show it to them.
Go through a bunch of TimCast videos and click like on a bunch of them
and the YouTube algorithm will start sorting
it to the top of your thing.
Peter Gunn says, I just watched a video
from Greg Foreman showing the Young Turks and Daily
Beast trying to smear you. It was pathetic.
You're getting big, man. Keep it up. Yeah, these things
happen. It was hilarious. I
love it when people are like, I'm going to try
and find everyone who hates you to say bad things about you.
People don't like you.
But it read like satire. It crazy it was really bad i was reading the article i was like
what is this it's like too over the top it's like dr mack segment i had a lot of people say that it
was just like hard to read because it was so long it was really long no i so i was like jumping
around in it i definitely it was very long and it was all the same garbage but there were a few
lines in there man that i saw that just stuck out to me that I thought were hilarious.
Well, you know, people, they try,
but I don't dwell on these things.
Yeah, that's fair.
Because the way I see it is like they're trying to distract you.
Like, we're on a path, and that path is expanding,
it's growing, it's successful,
and the last thing I need is to waste time with distractions.
I get it. Good for you.
We got to do this D&D show.
The lions don't care for the opinion of the sheep.
And we did hire a DM.
A Dungeon Master is here. So thank you
guys so much for sending me your DMs.
Yes.
Yeah, it's going to be good.
Dr. Roller Gator
says, Happy birthday, Lydia. You're the best.
Thank you. Lydia is the best. Happy birthday.
Yeah, she is. We're happy for you.
Ooh, look at this. Debt Collector says, Hey, Tim,
I just want to let you know the governor of virginia just mandated that all state employees must show proof
of the vax or be forced to get tested see that makes no sense if they're saying that there's
still breakthrough cases but if you're vaccinated that you don't got to get yeah yeah but if you're
not vaccinated you do got to get tested it's kind of like but you're still you still have an open door like if the goal is to secure a building and you're like people are
less likely to go through this door than this door so we're only going to watch this door
and i'm like so eventually people will still get in the one door like i don't know that makes no
sense to me dude all right let's see what do we got here gothic Extravaganza says, question for Seamus.
If the debunked are so far removed from society,
how do they receive communion?
Also, happy birthday, Lydia.
Oh, the debunkers?
Debunkers, yeah.
That's it.
They have a priest who will visit them on occasion
who comes and he's extremely intellectual,
so they will not catch the stupid from him.
I can't give you the name.
He's a very famous, very intelligent priest,
and he just goes and he dispenses,
he distributes the Eucharist to them.
But that's a great question
because they could not be
as brilliant of debunkers
if they were not in touch with
those who ghost.
Corey Cass says,
with how fast you can talk,
you should be an auctioneer
rather than those weird ad voices.
This 20 can be the first bid
on whatever you're auctioning.
Woo.
What are we auctioning?
Tickets?
We do have an auction system
which is going to be launched
on the website at some point.
And we're going to auction off stuff.
We got special custom colorway shoes that everybody who works here got a pair of, I think.
And then we've got drawings that we're collecting of all the guests.
Those are incredible.
Yeah, they're really amazing portraits.
Those we're going to hold on to for a really long time.
Maybe at some point we'll auction them off as a fundraiser or something.
I love them.
No one has drawn me.
We're also going to be doing – the auction system was built for tickets to the compound to hang out at our events.
So there's going to be a handful of first-come, first-served for everybody who's a $25 member or more.
And then there's going to be auction-based because it's not like we can invite the whole world to this.
It's not a public venue or anything.
So we actually are really limited in how we do it.
And then there's an option for people who don't have time
to sit around refreshing, waiting for the post to appear.
And then the people who pay more
who are refreshing. So it's like, you know, we're balancing it.
Eamon says, happy birthday, Lydia.
Mine was on the third. Yeah, we are both Leos.
Seamus, love your work. My favorite video is
the mostly peaceful Maxine Waters.
Thank you so much. God bless you let's see weskel california just mandated all health care workers must be
vaccinated as well as all hospital visitors this may be the last straw for me staying in california
i think it's hilarious all the people who are still in new york when i've been saying like get
out of the cities now they're like oh no i can't believe this is happening. And I'm like, I can absolutely believe it.
And I'll tell this.
Anything that keeps a sensible person such as this particular viewer out of California
pushes them out.
It's probably a good thing.
I think there's a silver lining here.
Okay.
But just please.
Well, I assume if he's watching your show, he won't.
But just please don't vote the way most Californians vote when you leave California.
Yes.
Louie Jr.
Ramos says Tim Pool Independent Party for President 2024.
Quote, defund the police guns for all.
Yes, we should.
You know, we do.
We turn all the police departments into Department of Gun Services.
The buildings are already there.
You've already got staff.
Many of them have had basic training with weapons.
And you walk in and you fill out the form like, you know, this is who I am.
I can prove who I am.
And here I'm going to get my free gun.
We got to do that.
I know a lot of people are like, that's gun tracking.
And I'm like, well, what if someone comes and gets two guns?
You know?
Then let them have two guns, Tim.
Yeah, but we're not socialists.
What's the deal?
Bro, you know what?
You don't know what his needs are.
Someone goes in there and they need two guns.
Just let them have two guns.
If there's one thing our taxes should be funding.
No, I'm kidding.
It's two guns.
If taxes, and look, if the government was in control of distributing guns, we'd have
a shortage.
Yeah, we should definitely do that.
More than fine with not giving two guns.
In fact, I don't think the government should give anyone a gun.
Yep.
CC Covey says, if legalized, a machine gun would cost you what?
Four grand?
You can rent a U-Haul and drive it down.
Yeah, I'm not going to read the rest of that one.
I knew where that was going.
Yeah, we'll see where that's going.
It's so good.
Levi says, Ian, you made a metaphor weeks ago about the Cleveland Browns, and you're from Ohio.
Are you a Browns fan?
Go Browns.
I used to be.
It was pain.
It was like masochistic, though.
It was like 12 years of loss.
Terrible Browns.
It was like 22 years of loss. Sad. I thought, his name tim couch was gonna get us there barney boyle says
what's the deal with michael malice style anarchists um like real anarchists what's the
deal i don't know was there more to the commentary what's the deal with michael malice that's all i
got ian shazop I can't pronounce that,
says,
not gonna lie,
I think the beanie look
needs to go
in the near future.
What?
I'm gonna let you guys
know something.
You know what?
I do this
because I want to do it.
That's it.
That's it.
Yeah?
Exactly.
I don't wear suits.
I never did.
Never wanted to.
And I don't do things
I don't feel like doing.
And if I didn't feel like doing this show, I wouldn't do it.
That's it.
The upside is you're going to look really good in wigs.
What if I just...
No, but I'm just saying, like, I'm not going to...
Legit for characters.
I just do what I feel like doing.
I'm not going to change myself for any kind of norms or structures or whatever.
If it got to a point where, like, what I did wasn't effective,
then I'd just take my van down to the river and go fishing.
If people were like, keep the beanie on, Tim.
Keep the beanie on.
Would you be like, no, I'm taking it off?
No, I'd be like, I'm just going to do what I feel like doing.
What if I just started wearing a suit every show?
You should. Then I was the fancy one.
That's fine.
I would like you to do that.
Exactly.
Then everyone was like, well, this guy's wearing a suit.
He must be the host.
I might start wearing headbands.
Then YouTube changed the name to SeamusCastIRL because they're like, there must be a mistake.
The guy in the suit must be the podcast host here.
I can see it.
And then the Daily Beast started writing about me.
They're like, we're so sorry to actually – is this guy in the suit?
He's the problem.
It's not Tim.
General Kale says, can't wait to see a social worker try talking down a 6'4", 300-pound man wielding a sword while he's covered in dookie.
How does that make you feel?
Dude.
I don't know.
Well, this is the thing. I've said this before. The the whole social worker thing all it's going to do is create a two
tier system because the people who are calling the police for reasons that would necessitate a
social worker tend or you know supposedly necessitate a social worker rather than a police
officer tend to be people in higher income areas where you don't have as much of a reason to call
the police because there aren't dangerous people so what do you end? Well, you end up with a situation where the social workers are
being called in the wealthy suburbs and in the inner city, people call the police because that's
where they're generally dealing with more actual emergencies. And so the funding for social workers
gets diverted to the suburbs because that's where they're all going. And the funding for the police
departments get diverted to the inner cities and you end up with a two-tier system.
The people dealing with brutality and police misconduct are going to be the people in the inner cities,
not the people getting the social workers.
That's exactly how it's going to shake out.
Is it day 512 of the lockdown?
I don't know.
It might be.
Well, it was March of 2020.
So, yes.
It's well over a year.
It's something.
It's over.
Yeah, it's well over a year,
probably.
A year and a half.
I think 5-12 sounds about right.
Yeah.
I thought it was 15 days.
Oh, but then I checked.
It's been a really long 15 days.
Yeah.
Dorsey Woods says,
so I'm going to take your guns
and police,
then continue to spend
thousands on personal security
because my life is more valuable than that of you peasants.
Yes.
Happy birthday, Lids.
Tim, look for me in your pitches emails.
Very cool.
That's basically what they do.
Yep.
Bynon Lee says, Tim, I work for a large gun manufacturer and we are understaffed and overworked trying to fill demands for handguns.
Wow.
Some lines have been working 60 hours a week plus optional weekends.
Oh, wow.
Man, crazy.
That's crazy, yo.
All right, let's see.
If it's any consolation to the incredibly difficult schedule,
you are doing very important work.
Absolutely, yep.
Ryan Wales says we should ban all people with the last names Bush
from holding public office.
What a beautiful world it would be.
Please clap.
Yes.
Please clap.
Yeah.
Jeb!
Exclamation point.
Nate Parrott says, dude, Ian, yes, the U.S. isn't invaded because there's a gun behind every blade of grass.
If we could arm everyone.
P.S. I had to pull off to the side of the road and park to send this.
Happy belated birthday, Liz.
Awesome.
Thanks for being safe. I like that. Be let's see braden t says if a bad guy flees
the u.s into canada different police forces with different laws and tactics come together to work
out a solution why couldn't private security agencies do the same dave smith 2024 yeah i was
gonna they could yeah that's not what i said that oh okay if if little johnny from
hillside where they pay the hillside security goes into valleyside and steals the the the the
amulet of uh geeks of geeks there you go sure is that a real thing from something i think it's from
ballers gate okay and it's worth five grand and he goes to this town and then the valleyside police
come over saying he's got our thing.
The Hillside police are sworn and paid to protect the residents of Hillside.
And they're going to be like, we don't know.
We don't care.
These this family pays us.
Not only that, the family of the kid can be like, we're paying you protect us from these people.
They're lying.
So cooperation would be difficult because of competing financial interests.
The thing about the United States and Canada is that the governments have treaties, and they don't care about you as a peasant.
The issue is when hillside security is a small entity that operates only in this one place, without the support of the people, they don't exist.
So they could cooperate, absolutely.
But it's basically when, you know, there's two groups.
I've seen it over and over and over again.
The leftists complain all day and night about how cops aren't held accountable, but then
they say snitches get stitches.
Yep.
Bro, if you're telling people not to rat anybody out, why do you complain when cops don't do
it?
That's exactly the ideology you're espousing.
So there you go.
Amen.
Okay, let's see.
Thousand Foot Deep End says, Ian's correct.
My former HPD sergeant aunt said domestic
disturbance calls are the most dangerous yesterday in my hometown a cop was shot multiple times while
responding to one the officer survived and the suspect was arrested today you're going into their
house which is also very threatening to them you know and they're already heightened and enraged
so it's really crazy stoker roilett, I've gotten out of more tickets by being respectful.
Dome lights on.
Glove boxes open.
Hands on steering wheel.
AA book and Bible on passenger seat.
Pictures of my kids on Dash.
Happy birthday, Lydia.
I got you something real nice.
I don't think you should open your glove box,
but I'm not sure how the rules work on that one.
I've heard stories where if you open your glove box,
you're consenting to a search or something like that. An entire car search? Yep. Really? Yeah, I've heard stories where if you open your glove box, you're consenting to a search or something like that.
An entire car search?
Yep.
Really?
Yeah, I've heard that.
I've never heard that.
I think that maybe, though, if they ask you to open your glove box and you comply, then they say he agreed to let the car be searched.
And then they can broadly search your car.
I don't know if that's true.
It's actually really crazy because I think the exclusionary rule means, like, the cop can't even look in the window. There was a story in Chicago
where the cop pulled somebody over
and then looked through the window and saw something
and they were like, you can't do that because you don't have the right
to search the vehicle.
You know what cops do?
They pull you over and they go, hey, Sirzak.
Yes. I smell pot out of the car.
Dude, I hit a skunk a mile back.
It's ridiculous.
It's insane. Because how can you prove that later well why'd you search a scar i smelled weed okay
you don't need any proof for that that's so funny i had a cop do that to me i was getting home late
because i do post-production after the show he pulled me over because i rolled a stop sign he
followed me to my house it's great he's like have you been drinking and he was like have you been
drinking and i was like no i was work. Like I literally just left work
like half an hour ago.
And he's like,
okay.
I was like,
what the heck?
I didn't realize that was the thing
they did until that last.
Well,
asking you if you've been drinking
is different from saying,
I smell pot,
get out of your car.
I had a cop pull me over
and then walk up to the car
and say,
good,
good.
He's like,
he's like,
good evening,
sir.
It's a,
oh,
whoa,
whoa.
I smell marijuana.
And I was like,
what?
Are you kidding, dude? I don't smoke. You don't. And he was like, out of the vehicle. And then I was like, what? Are you kidding, dude?
I don't smoke.
You don't.
And he was like, out of the vehicle.
And then I was like, excuse me, he said, out of the vehicle now.
And I was like, got out of the vehicle.
And then it's a long story.
I told it before.
But yeah, that happens.
Yeah, that's horrible.
Christopher Knowles says, used to be very liberal.
Took a World Wars history class in college and changed over a quarter.
Ignorance goes a long way.
Corporate media is America's platonic cave.
Shout out to M. Harris' book,
Cow Pigs, Wars, and Witches.
All right.
All right, let's see what we got.
Flick Store Entertainment says,
Tim, the Small Business Administration
gives grants to business owners,
but people don't know what they are doing.
Yeah, I get that.
But I'm saying, like, it's better than UBI.
Limited, one time, here's your opportunity, and then you get nothing to complain about.
Well, I tried to start my business and failed.
Okay, well, you had your opportunity.
No talent was lost.
And maybe later in life, you'll get more wisdom and skill and talent, and then you'll succeed.
But you know, we give people a chance, I guess.
Gingeritis says,
do you notice Saki keeps saying carrot or stick?
They're using phrases,
treating us like animals.
This originates from Churchill talking about Nazis.
Oof.
Carrot and stick.
I didn't know that.
Oh yeah.
Ham,
uh,
Zinka says in a true UBI system,
we would all be paid the same regardless of employment or not.
Those who don't work survive in poverty.
Those who do are rich, having both the UBI income and the employment business income.
And then many of those people who receive the UBI, instead of spending it on rent or food,
spend it on ho-hos, Twinkies, or drugs.
And then we say, we have a crisis of people spending their money improperly.
Yes, exactly.
I mean, I can imagine it occurring where people are spending this money either on ho-hos, Twinkies,
things that are not good for public health, so to speak,
or on things that the media could say are bigoted or offensive.
Maybe they're supporting alternative media outlets with their money
the way some people did with their stimulus checks.
And then I think it starts to become a matter of, well, do we need to examine
and give people UBI on the basis of some kind of social credit score?
I mean, again, that's extremely hypothetical,
but I think it's within the realm of possibility.
Once the government starts giving you money,
it's not as if there are never strings attached to that.
Bug HQ says supply price is up 30%, labor rates up 50%.
This war on small business is ridiculous.
When I try to talk to people about it, all I hear is crickets,
much like you'd get when you buy from Bug HQ.
Did I do it right, Mr. Michael Knowles? Happy birthday, Lids. Bug HQ, we could use some crickets, much like you'd get when you buy from Bug HQ. Did I do it right, Mr. Michael Knowles?
Happy birthday, Lids. Bug HQ.
We could use some crickets, throw them to the chickens.
We're going to have a couple chicken babies hatching
soon. We had some rotten eggs,
unfortunately. There's bacteria in
the egg, I guess. They go bad.
It's a couple weeks. They were
getting ready to hatch, too, and
had to pull them out. But I think
we may have still five growing and maybe going to hatch soon.
It's not easy.
That's why they lay so many eggs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's carry on, my good friends.
I don't know what that super chat is in reference to.
John Smith says, in Starship Troopers, the Federation emerged naturally during a time of great chaos where veterans began banding together to stop looting and rioting huh
interesting that sounds good seriously jk says i think you're all forgetting about free enterprise
in the u.s decentralization will catapult the exponential increase in economic productivity
creating a national black market for counterfeit vaccine passports. Defund my brain.
Yeah, that's illegal, though.
Interestingly...
Talk to your lawyer about it.
No, I mean, you should.
But my understanding is
it's only illegal
if you forge the CDC logo.
But with, like,
I guess with the...
I don't know if that would apply
to the mobile apps they do.
Yeah, I really think
some hacker is going to come up with a thing.
Oh, for sure.
It's going to be, you know.
All right, let's see.
Kevin Brady says,
I quit my welding job to be a filmmaker
full-time after three years of working
about 80 hours plus a week.
I just negotiated a part-time marketing job
at my former employer.
You can do it without college.
In fact, I recommend you do it without college. for him honestly i love hearing that someone you know like somebody
going after it i like it that's a risk and good for him i like it for you actually dude that's
yes because follow it but this has been on my mind a lot i feel like the united states has become
a country of artists and like writers like so i think there's definitely been an argument to be
made that welders are more important than filmmakers but we have a lot of filmmakers of artists and writers. For sure. So I think there's definitely been an argument to be made
that welders are more important than filmmakers.
But we have a lot of filmmakers right now
putting out horrible ideas,
and we need people producing media
that's going to represent positive values.
And also, if it is really the case
that he was more productive and valuable for society as a welder,
he's not going to make money making films.
And he'll go back to welding.
But I think it's good for him that he's trying.
I really do. Because he doesn't want to look back on his life and think what if
what if i could have done this right what if i could have contributed something different that
i would be more passionate about contributing and i never did so good for this guy it's my i think
it's more fun to create art but like what we have is a country of like people making movies and then
talking about it and complaining about it and people writing stories about how people are complaining about it and then writing stories about them.
And like we're all making money as we do it, which is this fairy tale fiat worthless thing that we think is like numbers in a bank account.
Like what's the real value?
The food's being imported.
The gasoline's being imported.
So I think there is value to the arts. What happens is when there is an economy which is robust and well-functioning enough for there to be a lot of excess wealth,
then there are people who can do things like be political commentators or create movies or television shows,
the things that don't directly increase the supply of basic necessities.
And so I think you're right that an economy can become lopsided at some point but
that's basically just what bubbles are and so if there's a bubble there it'll pop i would say again
i really want to continue to affirm this guy because if the filmmaking thing doesn't work out
he has a very valuable skill he's not ever going to have trouble getting a job as a welder though
i have said i would stop making predictions about the future given the past couple years so maybe
i'm wrong there maybe we just have this excess of welders at some point
and he should stick to to uh filmmaking even if it hasn't quite panned out just think about how
great it's going to be when we're a nation of nothing but musicians and filmmakers it's going
to be fantastic everyone's going to be a youtuber exactly everyone's starting a podcast oh yeah
well so this is exactly and this is the problem. When you have something like UBI, it allows for a gargantuan bubble the likes of which could never occur in a freer market.
Vosch actually said that we should print quadrillions of dollars to pay for that.
Did you hear him say that?
It was really quick and quiet.
He said it as we were all talking, and we didn't really go into it, but I was like, I want to pick his brain on that.
What?
Like, how?
Print quadrillions of dollars?
Yeah, because we were like, we've printed 28 trillion.
Venezuela just slashed six zeros off their currency.
Maybe he was joking, but he said it really quietly and fast.
He might have been joking.
He could have been joking.
You could have misheard.
But he was saying in defense of UBI, he was like, print quadrillions.
I don't know.
I'd like to ask him.
So the money is worth nothing?
That's what would happen.
Welcome to Venezuela.
The dollar would lose value.
And again, even people who are proponents of this mmt fantasy will tell you that in order for inflation not to occur when you're
injecting copious amounts of currency into the economy you have to have a very productive economy
and you need to reach full employment basically and right now we have just printed an insane
amount of money after shutting the economy down for months at a time so let's see how that works
out again even the people who have all these fantasies about us being able to print whatever
money we want under an mmt structure uh could look at something like this and say not going to be
great for the value of our dollar the survival prepper says keep preaching preparedness tim our
financial supply chain and governmental issues may seem small should the house foreign affairs
committee minority staff report about china and the origins of covid preparedness now is insurance for the future that absolutely is
yeah i mean uh i think people who don't have some level of just like emergency supplies
are just arrogant and stupid amen especially in cities of all places yeah man escape from new
york but i don't think i should have a first aid
kit water or food it's like i'm not telling you to stock up and fill up an underground bunker with
30 years of beans dude yeah i'm talking about like what are you going to eat when it rains
yeah a hurricane seriously hurricane knocked out power in new york for a couple weeks it was hard
to get stuff what did you eat like you we're not saying you have to though i actually wouldn't
advise against this but no one's saying you know get get months or years of emergency supply food though actually i i would recommend that but it
can even just be a couple weeks it can really it can really just be a couple weeks worth of
emergency supply food and let me add the caveat if you have the financial means where you're capable
of doing so without compromising having your short-term needs met you should get months worth
of emergency supply food because it literally cannot hurt you to have it um but yeah it can even just be like four weeks worth of emergency supply food i just
i don't understand how anyone could be against that there are people who will scoff at that idea
of being you know prepared with emergency food and i just the the smooth brain thinking there
to me is just
unbelievable.
Deliopolis, as Ian doesn't know what he's talking about,
the lockdowns in Australia are nowhere near as
strict as what they had in CA and New York.
Not even close. Yeah, New York had
checkpoints. Yeah. Like you
couldn't even enter certain places.
Aren't people getting dragged out of their houses in
Australia? I don't know if they're getting
dragged out of their houses. They're just like 10 months ago
for a Facebook post or something.
I think it was in the UK.
Isn't that
considered part of the UK Commonwealth?
I mean, technically, but come on, they're different countries.
Are you sure it wasn't Australia? Remember that woman screaming?
There was a woman who
had a mask exemption.
I thought people were getting dragged out of their houses in Australia.
If I'm wrong about that, I apologize.
I know in, I think in Canada and the UK that happened.
Canada.
Yeah, Canada.
Canada's kind of rough too right now.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, let's just grab one more.
Let's see what we got here.
We'll just, we'll wrap up on this last one.
Destiny Pratt says, happy birthday, Lids.
Mine's in two days.
Thank you.
Oh, happy birthday.
There you go.
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So I'm talking with some lawyers about this, like proper formation.
We're going to create a separate entity, which is going to be independent.
And we're going to hire fact checkers.
And the goal is to fact check articles as well as take a random sampling from different news organizations and then run those articles against the SBJ.
So these are like the standard journalistic ethics.
And then if they don't label opinion, if there's factual inaccuracies,
if they don't address conflicts of interest,
if they don't announce corrections and we can see manipulations to the article,
these will get an X.
Then we'll do a random sampling of 100 articles from the past three months.
And then we'll say X out of 100 are good. So you might see some clickbait leftist site getting a 30 out of 100, some conservative
site getting a 30 out of 100. The New York Times, I think, would probably be like a 60 out of 100.
Huffington Post would probably be a zero. I mean that literally because I think it's all opinion
and unlabeled. You can't put up an article that is opinion and not say it's opinion.
And a lot of these uh like websites do this so
daily beast and slate and salon they probably all be zeros just across the board uh daily wire says
it's an opinion conservative you know and commentary but you know we'll see as well
because they might actually get a zero too we'll see um but uh shamus do you want to mention
anything yeah so just uh check me out youtube.com slash freedomtunes.
That's T-O-O-N-S.
We're going to be releasing a cartoon tomorrow with Dr. Fauci in it.
It's going to be pretty funny.
Also, if you are an animator looking for work,
at Seamus Coghlan on Twitter, that's S-E-A-M-U-S underscore C-O-U-G-H-L-A-N.
Really easy to spell.
If you want to just check out, it should be in the link.
It should be in the description of this podcast. But just reach easy to spell. If you want to just check out, it should be in the link. It should be in the description of this podcast.
Just reach out to me. We're looking
to bring people on the team for Freedom Tunes and also
other projects because I've mentioned my
business is expanding.
Reach out. Thank you.
Always a pleasure to have you here, Seamus.
Thank you. It's always a pleasure to be here.
Tim, Lydia, thanks for coming. Lydia, happy birthday.
Thank you. Happy birthday, Lids. Follow me at Ian Crossland on the internet. I would pleasure to be here. Tim, Lydia, thanks for coming. Lydia, happy birthday. Thank you. Happy birthday, Lids.
Follow me at Ian Crossland on the internet.
I would love to see you.
On the internet.
Follow Ian on the internet.
Thank you guys so much for helping me celebrate my birthday.
I think I've worked every birthday of the last 10 years, and this is the most special
I've felt on my birthday.
You guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids.
I am closing in on Sour Patch Kids.
I think I'm 10K away, so let's do it.
Let's get her that birthday. Guys, let's get her that birthday present of beating Sour Patch Lids. I am closing in on Sour Patch Kids. I think I'm 10K away, so let's do it. Let's get her that birthday.
Guys, let's get her that birthday present of beating Sour Patch Kids.
Can we go over there and like Lydia's Twitter?
Can we give her a follow?
Let's do it.
Yeah, sure.
Everybody do it.
See what we can do.
Thanks, Seamus.
You're welcome.
Happy birthday.
We will see you all at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
Bye, guys.