Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #350 - Democrat Media Attacks Local Restaurant To Silence Inflation Story w/Kyle Becker

Episode Date: August 13, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join Kyle Becker of BeckerNews.com to examine the curious case of 'MayoGate' and what it says about the mainstream media's view of the common man and small business owners, San Fra...ncisco's choice to mandate proof of full vaccination before allowing entry to almost anywhere, an explosive school mask mandate meeting when parents finally push back, proving Steve Bannon at least partly correct, and finally, Arnold Schwarzenegger's disturbingly authoritarian view on freedoms when it comes to masks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How's it going, everybody? I almost didn't want to do this story as the lead for a few reasons. One, I think a lot of people are commenting that the story about a local restaurant being attacked by establishment media and Democrat activists isn't that big of a deal. I saw one person said, oh, it must be a slow news day. No, this is just substantially more important than other news. I mean, we've got some big stories. We've got San Francisco is going to be an act. They've announced they're launching their vaccine passports. I mean, that's a huge story. It's the third city to do it. I think that matters. I think it matters a whole lot. But this story about the restaurant really, really got to me. I don't want to I don't want to do it for the other reason was that
Starting point is 00:00:37 drawing more attention on some working class dude and his buddy who just want to serve burgers and chicken wings. I think it might be bad for them, you know, but I can't ignore what's going on with the psychosis of these these Democrat media establishment types. And I'm trying to figure out, like, how do you describe these people? They're authoritarian psychopaths. All right. The gist of the story is some guy gave a quote to local media about his rising costs of food and because of inflation. It was not political in any sense of the imagination. Local GOP highlighted the story, calling it Bidenflation. Now what's happening is several different Democrat aligned media outlets have called the restaurant liars, insulted them.
Starting point is 00:01:31 They're mocking them, and they're driving a harassment campaign at them to the point where I got a call. I called them for a comment to clarify, like, what's going on? Because the gag is that their mayonnaise was – they're guzzling mayonnaise. Now people are going after the business. They're slamming them on Yelp, and this guy didn't even do anything. He never criticized Biden. He had said nothing about it. He just said, oh, yeah, inflation's been kind of intense. We're spending 200 bucks more per week on mayonnaise. And now to see what they're doing to regular people, I'll tell you why I think the story is more important than a lot of other things. It shows
Starting point is 00:01:57 you you have an authoritarian, despotic cult that will destroy a local business simply because something they said that was true and factual threatens their regime, their stupid system. Yo, Biden's responsible for the inflation for a lot of reasons. This guy didn't even say that. Now what's happened? You get Huffington Post, the Independent, N100 going after a small business and calling them liars and driving these lunatics on the internet at this restaurant. And now they're telling me they're worried, like, is this going to – are we going to get shut down because of this? Are they going to come after us? It's going to hurt us.
Starting point is 00:02:33 We don't know what's going to happen next. Dude seemed like he was genuinely scared because he never experienced this, and this guy is totally apolitical. We've got to talk about this, about how when you get effectively brown shirts going around beating people in a submission, what that's going to lead to. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about what's going on in San Francisco with the other side of the authoritarian coin. And we're being joined by Kyle Becker, CEO of Becker News. How's it going, man? Good, Tim. Thanks for having me on. It's been great, and I look forward to talking with you during the show. You want to just do a little brief introduction, like your work, what you do? Yeah. So I run my own website,
Starting point is 00:03:06 beckernews.com. You can find me on Twitter at KyleNABecker. And, you know, I've been in the media for a while as former Fox News associate producer and writer.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And, you know, I've worked in media for a while, viral media expert. So that's kind of how I have a perspective. Right on, man. Thanks for coming. Good to see on, man. Thanks for coming.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Good to see you, man. We got Ian. Before I forget, I think a lot of these writers that are writing this, that are like taking things and printing them out of context, at first
Starting point is 00:03:33 I thought they seem psychotic because they're less, they're not critically thinking, they're kind of stupid, you could argue. But then I'm thinking maybe they're just dizzy
Starting point is 00:03:41 because if you take the best pitcher in Major League Baseball in the world and you spin them around really fast for a long time and then you ask them to throw a pitch, it's going to be terribly off. So maybe these people are just all effed up, confused, messed up, terrified, and so they're acting weird. And it's not that they're stupid.
Starting point is 00:03:57 When we went over Philip DeFranco's tweet, you know Philip DeFranco? Yeah. He tweeted just like this really vile, nasty thing like, I'm not going to apologize to you, anti-vaxxer. You know, Philip DeFranco? Yeah. He tweeted just like this really vile, nasty thing like, F you. You just like, I'm not going to apologize to you, anti-vaxxer. I'm like, when did people go? It's like, when did they become evil? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Where they were like, I will burn you to the ground for no reason. Well, I think that the pressure that we've seen over the last two years, the pressure cooker that we've all been in, starting with the elections, we had the, you know, the January 6th event. We've had the COVID lockdowns that seem to be going on and with the elections. We had the, you know, the January 6th event. We've had the COVID lockdowns that seem to be going on and on and on, or at least, you know, the regulations. And, you know, we have the critical race theory. And all of these things is sort of, you know, a menagerie of forces or people being pulled in different directions by information
Starting point is 00:04:40 that we're all exposed to. We're in information overload. Sure, sure. But I'm just saying, like, I mean, why did people turn into... It's almost like, you know, Bilbo Baggins in Lord of the Rings when he's all like, Oh, Frodo, can I see the ring?
Starting point is 00:04:53 You know, like, what happened to people where all of a sudden they've become demonic and possessed? But I don't want to drag on. We'll get to all this stuff for sure. We got Lydia pressing buttons over here. I'm in the corner pressing buttons. I'm excited for tonight's conversation as always. Very intrigued to learn about Mayo Gate. Mayo Gate.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Man, this one got me really angry. It gets me really angry because these are just regular working class people who don't care for politics, want to be left alone. But I've been saying this for some time. You think ducking your head and getting out of the way? No, no. They'll come knocking. They're going door to door. I said this was going to happen. I had all these leftists being like, Tim Pool's lost his mind saying they're going to come for you. Regular guy. Did nothing wrong. They're coming after him. They're giving him bad reviews. It's crazy stuff, man. Okay, but we'll get into it. And don't forget to go to timcast.com,
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Starting point is 00:06:04 So go to TimCast.com. And don't forget to like this video, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, because this one has got me more heated than many other stories I've ever seen. My friends, welcome to mayonnaise gate. We'll give it the funniest name we can, Mayo Gate. This is a story from WXII, Winston-Salem restaurants struggling due to inflation caused by pandemic. Experts blame inflated prices on high demand due to the pandemic. High demand and low supply. Why is there a low supply? Because in April, 4 million people quit their job.
Starting point is 00:06:34 They're calling it the great resignation. Why are people quitting their jobs? Because they don't have to pay rent and because they are getting $16 an hour on average from unemployment payments. That's not literally every single person who quit their job doing it for that reason. But a large reason is this. When people don't need to work to get money and they don't need to pay rent, they say to themselves, maybe I should do something else and be more fulfilled. I can respect not wanting to work crappy jobs. But when people don't work, they don't make stuff. When there's no stuff, there's
Starting point is 00:07:02 low supply and the demand remains the same. Prices will start going up. Now, many of these media organizations are trying to obfuscate this. They don't want people to realize it is the fault of Democrat policies and Joe Biden's administration. So they'll do everything in their power to lie, cheat and steal. And the worst thing about it is this story really grinds my gears because they're attacking for no good reason a local restaurant in North Carolina
Starting point is 00:07:25 that didn't even get political. This is mayonnaise gate. How hilarious and sad. Here's what happened. They say, WXII spoke with the owner of the Sherwood, a family-owned restaurant in Winston-Salem. Pete straights the owner to find out how much trouble inflation has caused. He says that an increase in prices has put his business in a difficult situation. Quote, you can only offset so much in this business, and it seems like every year you lose here, you lose there. I'll give you an example. I'm paying $200 more a week in mayonnaise. Now, when I saw this story, it was because a bunch of Democrat aligned media figures were mocking the restaurant and calling them liars, saying if prices went up by 5.4%, that would mean that $200, that would equal $3,700 in mayonnaise per week. Because these people seem to think that the price increase is static across all products because they have no idea how the economy works.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Surprise, surprise when they try and push communism or socialism. What really happened, because I called the restaurant and asked them to clarify on this, one of the partners simply said, oh yeah, you know, we do about 10 buckets per week. They're five gallons each. And they used to be about $18. Now they're 36. So you do the math. It's, you know, 18 bucks and times 10. It's about $200. And I went, makes sense to me. And he said, we use the mayonnaise for our dressings and things like that. And anybody who knows, who's worked in the restaurant industry knows you go through a lot of ingredients. Like, well, all of these, here's what we end up getting. We have this from Indy 100. Republicans tried to attack Joe Biden over the price of mayonnaise and the responses were
Starting point is 00:09:04 hilarious. They're saying things like posting on Twitter. The official branch of the party shared a story in which restauranteurs expressed dismay about the price of mayo. What? Yes. Saying they were spending more than $200 a week on it and claimed this was due to Biden inflation. The restaurant never said that. That's a lie.
Starting point is 00:09:31 The restaurant never blamed Joe Biden for this. But Indy is saying restaurateurs blamed Bidenflation. The North Carolina Republicans must have been too hangry and lacking in egg nutrients to notice, however. The article they shared quoted experts who blamed the coronavirus pandemic on inflation and not on Biden. Here's what we have from The Independent. This is from a different writer. GOP ridiculed for bizarre Biden mayonnaise smear. Something might be happening with mayo consumption in North Carolina. These people didn't bother doing a simple Google search, calling a restaurant, getting a quote and saying how much mayonnaise is normal for a restaurant to use.
Starting point is 00:10:00 We also have the Huffington Post. Republicans attempt to smear Biden over mayonnaise gets creamed on Twitter. How much mayo can one restaurant use in a week anyway? And you get all your normal culprits. Aaron Rupar. Everybody knows Aaron Rupar. Yeah, there's a verb. It's called Rupar.
Starting point is 00:10:14 To Rupar someone. What's the definition? To take something out of context and mischaracterize to falsely frame a story. What designer drug is mayonnaise code for? Jonah Blank says somebody's eating way too much mayonnaise. Then I don't care for these regular, you know, this guy who works at Facebook said, just imagine the heroic amounts of mayo
Starting point is 00:10:32 this restaurant must be going through. These people are a combination of ignorant, arrogant, and aggressive. And that is shockingly terrifying because what does that mean? They're too stupid to understand how basic economics works, why a restaurant might need 50 gallons of mayonnaise per week, which probably does. The restaurant capacity, I also reached out, 250 people. You get 250 people at one time in a restaurant during a wait list period, and you've all seen a wait.
Starting point is 00:11:00 You've all had a wait list at a restaurant. How much mayonnaise do you think they're going to use for 250 people in a 30 minute period? And now how many people are coming to the restaurant every day? It could be a thousand. Yeah. Instead, here's what ends up happening. They all end up lying, saying mayoflation, mocking the restaurant. And it turns into something much more terrifying when people start going to their Yelp and saying things like one star review, way too much mayonnaise, just mayo everywhere, or one star review, too much mayonnaise. Used to love the place, but mayo is too much. And so I'm told by the owner, at first they were like, oh, this is silly.
Starting point is 00:11:37 What's going on? We're getting trolled or something. And then he said that this morning, you know, it got so intense, he starts getting scared. All these reviews are coming in. Something is happening, and he's scared about what's going to happen. They're trying to make it seem like this guy, a regular guy who was not involved in politics, insulted Joe Biden and lied about the prices to make him look bad. And now these lunatics are actually trying to cause damage to this restaurant who is not political.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I have said it before, and I will say it again. If you think sitting down and hiding is going to get you out of whatever is going on, you are wrong. And all that's going to happen is this will be life for everyone. You'll be sitting in your little cafe and you're like, I just run a small business. I have nothing to do with politics and I don't want to be involved. And then one day Antifa will show up and throw a brick through your window because someone accused you of being racist. We've seen stuff like that happen in Berkeley. The people have to put signs in all their windows. I was in, I was in, I was in Berkeley for some protest event and there was a nail salon with, you know, all of this leftist signage in the windows.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And I'm like, there's, there's no way these working class women who are in there, immigrants are that adamant about their activism. And so I went to a bar. And as I'm sitting at the bar, I'm eating a burger. There was a big thing on the window that insulted Trump and said that he was some kind of turd or something. And I asked the bartender. I was like, all right, what's, you know, everybody has these signs on the window. You know, yours is like, you know, more insult, more derogatory.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And she's like, yeah, you know, you have to do it. And I was like, so you don't, do you agree with that message? Like, are you guys like anti-Trump? And she said, no, if you don't do it, they'll smash your windows. That's what it's like living in the Bay Area. There was a Burger King I saw. This was back in, I think, 2015 or 2016. A Burger King had a big sign in the window and it said, please do not destroy our windows. We are a family owned restaurant franchise, not a corporate location. That's what life is like when you let these people keep doing this stuff. During the, I think it was the, was it the G20 or was it the G7? I don't know. It was in Hamburg. They went around smashing up storefronts and there's this photo of all of these stores smashed up except for one. And do you know why that one store wasn't smashed up?
Starting point is 00:13:46 It had the communist fist in the window. This is an attack on a regular, regular, regular family guy. This is the stuff that I've been saying they will keep doing. And people want to act like, I guess, out of the 300 or so, you know, 320 million people in this country, excluding the children, so you got maybe 250 people. How many of them, you know, are adults? Yeah, maybe, maybe you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll be safe. You'll be lucky. Maybe as you know, you're in the crowd and the bear starts charging in, you're like, I can run faster than everybody else. Maybe you'll be the one person, but man, you could stand up right now and tell these people to shut up call out the media for lying and going after regular people who are not political punching down as hard as they
Starting point is 00:14:30 can or you can sit back and let your children inherit this future so i tweeted about this the other day i said um i said something about winston churchill and his quote about feeding the alligator and i said at this point conservatism has become nothing but feeding the alligator because all we're doing is saying, I just want to be left alone. Just let me do my own thing. I just want to grill, right? That's like the meme. You can't do that anymore. Like you don't have a choice. And I also tweeted something inflammatory about how it is now your role to fight. You don't get to have your white picket fence. You don't get to necessarily have your American dream because it's being thwarted by the far left and this crazy people in the media. And your role right now is to figure out what you're going to do about it. And I think until people figure that out, we're going to have
Starting point is 00:15:13 a serious problem. We can't just keep sitting back and taking it. But that's what conservatives do. Why? Yeah, well, this story is more disgusting than a mayo sandwich. Let me just put it that way. I'm marinating in it and I'm listening to Tim. But what really jumps out to me is that the Democrats a long time ago lost any pretense that they care shuffle out, but they don't care about the folks getting shot in Chicago. Anything that goes against their agenda or against their narrative, they either ignore it, downplay it, or attack people who draw attention to it. And this poor guy in North Carolina who's just trying to put food on his family's table, just trying to run a small business, but is extremely difficult due to a lot of the policies and Democrat run states, the lockdown policies. Where are them championing the little guys, the small business owners? Jeff Bezos and
Starting point is 00:16:12 Amazon raking it in hand over fist this entire time. They don't scrutinize how it's benefiting corporations and multibillionaires. They don't draw attention to it. They're the forgotten man. This guy in North Carolina, he's the forgotten man in society. He's just one example of countless that you can draw attention to of just grabbing what looks to be a ludicrous headline and their lack of compassion and lack of sympathy
Starting point is 00:16:38 for this small business owners who's obviously struggling is illustrated by the fact that they're not sympathetic with him. It's like, oh, it must be very difficult. Not only is it Democrat policies and Joe Biden's administration that are responsible for the inflation, but the people who voted him are gloating and mocking you and laughing as you struggle through the muck. They're the ones who threw the sewage on the floor and they're laughing as you slip in it. Now, let me explain, because maybe a lot of people saying it's not.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It was inflation, not Joe Biden. Extended unemployment benefits. People are getting $16 an hour not to work. We've already heard from many experts that this is a push factor, and so a lot of people don't want jobs. And the response we get from many of the Democrat establishment activists is, yeah, well, people shouldn't work these crappy jobs anyway, and they should pay better. So it's an acknowledgement. We know so long as you give people the benefits, if they don't have to work, they won't. You've got the eviction moratorium.
Starting point is 00:17:32 People aren't paying rent. Some people are. A lot of people are paying rent, but some people aren't. This means that there is now a bottleneck where retirees and mom and pop landlords, people who own one building and rent out their basement, can't make ends meet. This ripples across the board. You've also got the gas shortage caused by a worker shortage caused by those factors, which causes all prices to go up. So inflation across the board is on the rise. So long as Joe Biden wants to enact illegal eviction moratorium, so long as he wants to extend these benefits. And it's not just him. It's the administration, the Democrats. And so long as he wants to shut down a gas pipeline, which caused speculators to buy more. I'm not a fan of speculators,
Starting point is 00:18:12 by the way, causes them to buy more driving up prices and then shut down fracking on federal land, which causes speculators to predict short supply, which increases speculation and causes price to go up for gasoline. These are factors caused by Joe Biden directly, his policies, his administration, and Democrats. I am no fan of the Republican Party. I think they're trash. Most Americans actually have a worse view of Republicans than Democrats, but the Democrats are the ones who are doing this right now. So I tell you this.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I feel bad for this restaurant. I'm also kind of frustrated with people like this, these restaurants. I can't expect him to have known what was going on. But if you think that you can sit back and ignore the world around you, and then you will be safe when the fires or the storm comes, I'm sorry, that's just not true. All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. And so you have, I talked to the guy,
Starting point is 00:19:05 I talked to two of the people at the restaurant, got a comment. And, you know, their sentiment was, we don't want to be involved in politics. I think both sides are bad. Both parties suck and both sides are doing it. And I said, I told him the right, the anti-establishment types, these aren't the people who are attacking your restaurant right now because you expressed a fact about your prices. So if regular people don't wake up to these extremists, by all means, the alt-right, they've been gone for three years. Nobody likes them. I get it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Now we have a cult-like authoritarian left that is going to attack anybody who says a fact that goes against their narrative. Or for no reason at all, as we saw with the Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots all last year, they attacked other black small business owners directly, burned them to the ground, bashed their windows. And I really liked what you said about hanging signs in your door as kind of a totem or a sign. When I go to this lily white neighborhoods in Westchester County, I see Black Lives Matter sign everywhere.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I don't think it's because they sincerely believe in this neo-Marxist organization. I think it's a totem. It's like a Jewish Passover where you put the blood on your door and you want people to leave you alone. I did a little social experiment. They had a church right next to a school and they had all these Black Lives Matter signs and all of their little punch phrases, love is love, et cetera, et cetera. Typical Maoist type brainwashing sort of things that they put on the sign.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I took a sign. I ordered it myself and I put I believe in racial equality. I believe in freedom of speech. I believe in and I listed all of these different freedoms on there that I, you know, just from the Constitution and put it out there, you know, basically to provide some kind of contrast. And I just put it right in the middle of the signs and just waited. And I took a picture and I came back. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:20:50 They had taken a sign and they got rid of it because they are not for equality. They are for equity. And that means the government controlling all social relations in this country. And so, no, you're not going to be safe. The COVID passports, all of this stuff, they are. We're not used to this sort of in your face intrusion, but it's going to get worse because, as you can see, you know, nobody is safe. It's going to be like the social credit score in China that you were talking. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So we got this story from K-Ron for San Francisco mandates proof of full COVID vaccine at indoor venues.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I love this title, indoor venues, because it's not the truth. They actually explain in the article it's not indoor venues. What's a venue? A venue is a forum. That's like a public forum. When you say venue, you're thinking like a bar or a theater or a concert. You're not thinking a cafe. Unless the cafe is a small stage, I guess.
Starting point is 00:21:44 But they actually go on to say that it is more than just venues. It's restaurants, cafes, bars, gyms. Mayor London Breed announced Thursday during a press conference. I don't think the vaccine passport ultimately is going to be the end result, whether it's intentional or not. It's going to be that you will have to show your papers wherever you go. It's funny that this is literally showing your papers. And we have a historical look at the fascist regimes, the Nazis, and why showing your papers was frowned upon,
Starting point is 00:22:17 the idea that you couldn't move about and freely associate without some kind of ID. And now you have, what's the meme? The punch-a-Nazi people had a really quick 180 and to show us your papers or something like that. Or an alarming number of punch a Nazi people are now saying, show us your papers. This is it. And they'll start with something like this. But it's just about keeping people safe with the vaccines. That's my issue with this. That is all based on a false premise. The CDC director, Rochelle Walensky, admitted it about two weeks ago. She admitted that the vaccines, so-called, do not prevent transmission of the Delta variant, for example. And right now,
Starting point is 00:22:59 we're seeing a spike in the Delta variant, but the mortality rates are low and the hospitalizations are being misrepresented. But still, it's fairly low. The specific issue there is they're saying the vaccine will reduce your likelihood to get it. But the CDC also says viral load in those with breakthrough cases are the same as those who are unvaccinated. The bigger problem, I suppose, is animal repositories. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Reservoirs. Right, reservoirs. We've seen all the stories about dogs and cats getting COVID. And if that's the case and it can transfer back, I'm not going to pretend to be a doctor because I don't know. Then that would be alarming and we're not vaccinating our pets. So ultimately, I'll say this, and I always do. I don't give medical advice. I'm not here to discourage or encourage anybody. You talk to a doctor, make sure you do what's right by you. There was a story the other day about this nurse in Germany who swapped out people's vaccines for saline.
Starting point is 00:23:46 And that, to me, is a violation of informed consent and psychotic. If an elderly person wants to get medication, their doctor recommends it. No one should be doing that. That's crazy. But my bigger issue is, hey, man, if you go to your doctor and your doctor says, here's the medicine I prescribed to you. I go to the doctor. The doctor says, okay, I shouldn't have to go to get tested for something or then go to a venue and show them my medical ID because it's going to go beyond that. This right now, it's how they get you. They say, well,
Starting point is 00:24:14 we want to stop the pandemic. You got to get the app. You got to get the Excelsior pass. And in a year, I tell you, it's going to be something else. It's going to be, oh, did you, oh, you said naughty words. It's going to be total social credit. It was funny. I tweeted this. I tweeted social credit scores are next. And some, some like establishment lefties are like, you watch too much TV. I thought it was funny. I was like, yeah, you know, I maybe, cause I watched a documentary from the German outlet DW and they interviewed some Chinese individuals working on the social credit stuff, talking about how amazing it was and how crime has gone down. And it's so amazing now that people are recognizing that you can't just do these things like, oh, yeah, putting people in rigid boxes. The biggest problem I
Starting point is 00:24:54 have with it, centralized authority doesn't work. It spins out, spins out of control. Dissent emerges rapidly. And because of the centralized control and people being pressed down, there's no pressure release for the people. There's no protest. There's no moment of being left alone. And that's one of the things I said a year or so, two years ago maybe, I said, they will never leave you alone. If you think keeping your head down is going to keep you out of this political conflict, you are wrong. And the best thing you can do now is speak up before it's too late. Unfortunately, people don't care. It's a sad tale, man.
Starting point is 00:25:31 We have how many stories from the past about totalitarians, authoritarians, and why you must speak up. But I didn't speak up because I wasn't X or I wasn't Y. And I don't want to lose my job because, you know, I have kids. I said this over the past couple of years. Speak up at your job when they do the critical race applied principle stuff. Speak up against it. Stand up against it. And people say, but I'll get fired. Think about the future for your kids. And they say, well, you know, OK, well, now you're at the point where your job is mandating either masks or vaccines.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And we get people commenting, being like, what do I do? And I'm like, you could have stood up last year, you know, and pushed back against the authoritarian, you know, takeover. But for now, I would just recommend first going to your doctor and making a decision on your own health. And then if you if you can't work at this place, for whatever reason, leave the job. Yeah. And I think what we're seeing right now is that a bunch of the elitists who are at the forefront pushing a lot of these collectivist policies are not are are in a sort of cocoon of political correctness they are taking the path of least resistance they're not used to people pushing back they're not used to people and you don't even have to do to push back in a sort of angry mean way any kind of objection to them especially if you show your human side and really put pressure on them, can be effective. And I've seen this firsthand when the school district that I live in,
Starting point is 00:26:49 they did a critical race theory thing under the guise of so-called Unity Day. The superintendent, after I had shown a spotlight on it, was effectively begging me to go and meet them in person because they weren't surprised at all of the angry parents responding. So I went and I talked with them and politely explained why parents were so angry and gave them some options. And I think that this kind of – where you look at sort of the middle managers in this system, of all of these groups that sort of are kind of at the front, they're not used to people being angry.
Starting point is 00:27:23 They're used to social pressure. That's basically how they became a leftist to begin with, is because of peer pressure, going with the flow. They need to understand that there is no flow anymore. There is no just go along to get along sort of thing where you can run in this little suburban mom group and everybody's going to agree with you. You have to make sure that you understand they need to see you as a person. You need to look them in the eye and so that you don't agree with them. And you need to, you know, just show them that they're hurting people with these policies and that they're causing real damage to this country and their people are suffering and that, you know, they may believe they have good
Starting point is 00:28:02 intentions, but nobody ever really explains to them the human cost, like we saw with the North Carolina restaurant owner. There's a face to these people who they're hurting. There is a flow that people can go with, and it leads to a waterfall. So the people who are sitting back being like, hey, man, look, I'm not going to fight the current, eventually they just go, well, you could have turned around, you could have paddled against it, you could have grabbed a tree branch or done something.
Starting point is 00:28:26 But people just said, I don't want to rock the boat. You know, the captain seems to know what he's doing, and the cliff is right there. That's what it feels like to me. No one – the people who are running this stuff in these councils and these city board meetings, they have no idea what they're doing. They have no idea what's going on. They don't know what is or isn't because the rules keep changing. And then you have people sitting there being like, well, you know, they'll do it, I guess. No, you know, people got to wake up and
Starting point is 00:28:52 be responsible for their own lives, man. There's a substantive lack of personal responsibility among a lot of Americans these days. Yeah. And I just, I think that right now, what we're seeing with this sort of information landscape that we're all kind of immersed in and that we're an independent media or alternative media, and they're trying to change the landscape to take away our opportunities to reach these people and to organize them. And I've been trying to organize people to have political pushback since the Tea Party movement in 2010. You know, these sort of organic, grassroots sort of organization that we need to do, that can be successful and it can work, but you have to get out and you have to, you know, make sure that you're very visible. I mean, in New York, they recently had a protest against the COVID mandates and the passports, and they
Starting point is 00:29:46 made a real show to force. But it's just glaring how that's not really the case in this country. It's kind of surprising to me. It's kind of a letdown that we're not really getting out in force. So I just want to encourage people to really start using those networks that they built up over the years and start, you know, don't be afraid to go out and organize and to do things. The worst thing they can do is try to force you to get home. And if you do, or force you to go home or disperse for not having an ordinance or having a petition, then get it on video, send it to influencers,
Starting point is 00:30:22 make it known that there is real authoritarianism behind these policies and make people understand that these are authoritarians. They can't hide behind. I think there's going to be a big wake-up call for a lot of people now with the mandates. NBC News ran this article saying that vaccine mandates will hurt corporations that are trying to hire because a lot of people are going to be like, wait, what? I have to do what? We talk about this restaurant. This guy who's not political doesn't know what's going on. He's like, I don't want to be involved, right? How many people were ignoring all of this being like, well, we don't go outside, we wear a mask, okay, whatever. You had, who was it, Bill Burr, the comedian, where he was like,
Starting point is 00:30:56 I turn on the TV every two weeks and then, you know, if they tell me to wear a mask, I'll wear it, whatever. You had Ethan Klein from H3 saying, you just go to the CDC and they tell you what to do. You don't even got to think about it. these are the people who are going to wake up one day when they go to work and they're going to be like oh did you get your your vaccine and they're going to be like wait for my what you have to do that oh yeah otherwise you're fired and they're going to be like hold on a minute because there's a big line between wearing a mask and getting something injected into you again you know you go to your doctor. The problem is some people might have – okay, and I looked up the pronunciation. Guillain-Barre.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Guillain-Barre? Nope. No, it's not Guillain. I looked it up and talked to a French guy. I can't pronounce it. Guillain-Barre? Guillain-Barre. Oh, Barre.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Okay, Guillain-Barre. Yeah, or you can – if you say it fast, Guillain-Barre syndrome. All right. Because it's named after two guys. That was their name. And because people keep telling me different pronunciations for it. So I finally like just watched a video talking about the scientist. And I'm like, ah.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Anyway, if you have an underlying health condition and your doctor recommends against it, people are going to wake up hard to like, wait a minute. Hold on a minute. There is this band playing a show in Florida where they said it's $1,000 a ticket, but it's only $18 if you can prove you've been vaccinated. And so this one woman gave an interview where she was like, my doctor recommended against the vaccine and now I can't go to the show. But rich people can. That's going to be the thing that kind of pulls people into what's going on. Like all of a sudden now you've got people who are going to go to work one day and they're going to be like, you can't come back until you go to your doctor and talk to them. They're going to be like, really?
Starting point is 00:32:27 And now people are going to be forced to ask questions and engage. Well, I saw just this week there was an Ohio judge that sent in a man who had possession of fentanyl. And he was up in front of the judge and he violated his probation. And one of the terms of the probation that he would be forced to take the vaccine. And one of the things that was interesting about that is the judge admitted, I'm not a doctor. And he supposedly just referred to the CDC's order and that he had to wear a mask and all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:53 The CDC is de facto acting as some extra legal actor in our policy process. But they are just ultimately bureaucrats. And not only can they be wrong, they have been wrong multiple times whether it's surface contaminants or viral load after getting the vaccine and transmission it just goes on and on. Fauci recognizes that you know he says the science changed. That the science doesn't change your understanding of the science changed because you were not making it according to the empirical evidence that is right in front of you i think i think the the science changes the problem is in an emergency situation they're making recommendations off of incomplete information so they're like here's what we know so so fauci said this this is actually what fauci said that at first they said
Starting point is 00:33:37 don't wear masks then they found out asymptomatic people were spreading it and said okay now wear masks so they were still in the process of trying to figure out what was going on. And then they said it was aerosolized and instead of just – and so a mask is not going to have any effect. It's short of an N95 potentially in a hospital setting. I'll tell you the issue I have with the establishment, with YouTube on this one is celebrities can come out and tell you, go and do it. You can't come out and say, don't, right? Right. And the argument is, well, the CDC is advising for these things.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Right, right, right. Well, hold on. Even, okay, so I think I shouldn't recommend anything at all. I think you should talk to a medical professional. You know, somebody who actually knows, I don't want to get sued if I give someone medical advice that's bad.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I don't want to get sued if I give financial advice that's bad. I don't think celebrities are in a place to decide what someone should be doing with their health because they may have, like Pete Parada, formerly of The Offspring, Guillain-Barre syndrome, probably, however you pronounce it. And so anyway, what ends up happening is you see all these celebrities telling people to do something. I think because of that blind zealotry, vaccine zealotry, you'll end up with more reports in the VAERS system.
Starting point is 00:34:49 People who are adversely impacted because they should have gone to a doctor and then said to them like, oh, I have this, that, or otherwise. The doctor might've been like, oh, okay. For that reason, I say no. So there's probably a small percentage of people. I do think the vaccines are overwhelmingly safe. I think it's fine. But I ultimately think I'm not going to tell an individual to ignore their doctor like a celebrity would. That to me is a problem. If you want to tell someone to go to their – I even had establishment Democrat types attacking me as anti-vax for saying, please go to your doctor. I was on Twitter and I was like celebrities should not be encouraging people. They should be encouraging them to go to their doctor.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And people were like, you're an anti-vaxxer. I'm like, what? I really liked what Dr. Drew said the other day. And it's sort of a, you know, mini viral rant that he had about this, that, that when he was a doctor and he was treating his patients, the CDC was like some kind of footnote that, you know, okay. Oh, the CDC says that the WHO says that that's great. It's like goes in the file of things. Then you just don't pay attention to it very much unless it's a headliner sort of thing of a drug problem or something like this. It wasn't the authority body that you took orders from. No. If you have a license to practice medicine, you treat people on an individual patient basis,
Starting point is 00:35:59 and you know all the statistics. You know the health factors, the risk factors. I mean, you don't need factors the risk factors you and you know i mean you don't need the cdc to tell you these things you need them to publish them uh and sure sure there might be some guidance there but it's kind of like in the helpful suggestions thing and a doctor can we go thank you thank you very much for your opinion but that's fine i've got it it's the authoritarian creep right it was trump trump's a hypochondriac, and he gave full power to the CDC. And Fauci just completely elevated it all.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And was like, it's a horrible global pandemic. And then he gave it all. Trump definitely deserves some criticism for what you're saying. He is a germaphobe, I hear. Oh, yeah, absolutely. The handshakes for a long time. He didn't want to shake people's hands. I was told that he only eats fast food because you can walk in, order it, and it's already pre-made.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And there's a concern about if he orders it to order, someone will do something to it. Well, no wonder he got used to the ketchup that he puts on the steak. I think that may be the only exception, but you could be right. Well, I love the ketchup and steak story. Do you remember this one? Do you guys remember this one? It's really, really good. And I'm going to bring it back up because we haven't said it in a long time.
Starting point is 00:37:06 There was a big report about Trump having this very fancy, like dry-aged steak well done with ketchup. And the media insulted him and ridiculed him and said he was so uncouth and, oh, he doesn't even know how to eat steak. Oh, this guy is ridiculous. Meanwhile, working class union guy in the Midwest was sitting there eating his well-done T-bone with ketchup going, that's how I like my steak. See, when I was growing up, we had the garbage steaks from the local supermarket. You don't cook those rare. You got to cook them through because they're not good steaks. And then you slop ketchup on them. So you do.
Starting point is 00:37:38 My dad would always be like, you know, that's an insult, right? It's like I make my steaks good. But we had good steaks when I was a kid. We weren't always eating bad steaks. But when we would, it's like you cook it through. Donald Trump does that. It's relatable to working class people who can't afford the filet mignon. To the rich people, they're laughing.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Medium rare with a little garlic and salt. What's he doing? What a nut. Just shows you how the establishment hates the little guy. Like the story we were leading off with. But let's talk about the story. You see the protests breaking out in Tennessee over the masks in schools? All these parents showed up.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah, I saw a clip of it this morning. They're screaming, there's a special place in hell for you. We know where you – we'll find you. We know where you live. Wow. You know what's really crazy about this stuff? First, I'll say a couple things. We have this story from CNN.
Starting point is 00:38:28 School mask debate in Tennessee grows heated as local board requires masks in elementary schools. What's interesting is that Steve Bannon told us this. He said, come August 15th, when parents see what these schools are doing to their kids, the moms are going to come out and all hell will break loose. Something to that effect, paraphrasing. And it wasn't just critical race applied principles. It wasn't just the masks, all of these things. And now it's August 12th, and we're seeing parents screaming at these people. So I think Steve was right about that. I think it'll be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of weeks with schools coming back in full swing and parents being like, nah, none of this.
Starting point is 00:39:10 But the crazy thing about it is these school boards that are voting to have mask mandates while there are 100 or so parents outside screaming insults and, you know, we know where you live, veiled threats. Why are they voting in favor of that? Yeah, I don't know. These parents will have a long memory, too. They are not going to let this go. something to harm their kids' mental health, like we saw that last year with the mask mandates and just the policies that they put in place in these schools. Depression went way up. Anxiety went up. Suicide hotline calls went way up.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Suicide rates have crept up. They are harming their kids in a lot of parents' opinions, not all. Some people think that it's protecting their kids, which is why we cannot have a shared reality right now, apparently. So they're not going to let this go, Tim. You know what these people don't understand? So I'm 35, right? Time moves much more quickly as you get older, they say. And it's mostly because things become routine.
Starting point is 00:40:04 At least this is my view of it. When I wake up and have breakfast and same breakfast over and over again, I don't have a strong memory of the breakfast I had because it's the same breakfast I had 100 times. I'm older. A lot of my experiences are routine and forgettable. But the first time you were to train, I remember the first time I were to train. I remember the first time I flew in a plane because those were like things in my life I'd never done before. When you're younger, you're 10 years old. A day is a lot longer percentage-wise of your life. So imagine a year of not being able to go outside, go to the park, go play with your friends.
Starting point is 00:40:36 It's like putting these kids in solitary confinement. I know a guy and his son committed suicide. He was 12 because of the lockdown. And then his dad came out and started doing advocacy saying like, we can't do this to our kids, man. You're an adult. Maybe you don't mind sitting in your lounge chair
Starting point is 00:40:52 and relaxing and working from home. But these kids are trying to experience life and it's being stripped away from them. If you're 10, 10% of your life was in solitary, basically. 10%. For me, 1 35th of my life was spent with the lockdown. And I'm older and I'm working running a company. I've had the experience.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I've traveled the world. I've hung out with my friends. I've gone skateboarding. And now I'm like working from home, building a business. These kids, they want to go out. They want to explore. Well, I think the narrative needs to be switched on its head. These children have a right to their childhood.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They have a right to see smiling people. They have a right to live in a pleasant environment. And we're talking about the formative years. So it is really beyond a doubt. And, you know, I was a psych department assistant. I listen, you know, I'm immersed in all of psychology and childhood development and so forth. You are stunning their psychosocial development. It's really not even debatable.
Starting point is 00:41:47 It's just a fact. If you take away the right to read, you know, the ability of children to read emotions or to feel comfort and to see smiling faces and reassurance that you are basically it's kind of like that old video, The Wall from Pink Floyd. You know, you're just creating like this factory of faceless, anonymous, just sort of – you're dehumanizing them. You're alienating them. You're atomizing them. And this, for me, it strikes me as a political program.
Starting point is 00:42:18 It's not – the children are not – from what I've seen, the research, Wall Street Journal, you can go – just look at it. They're not appreciably at risk for this. Thank God. It's one of the small miracles that we can point to during this pandemic. And we're not taking advantage of it. It used to be in society where adults wanted to be on the front lines. They wanted to bear the brunt of things. They wanted to protect their children at all costs.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And now we're seeing, from what I perceive, is a lot of anxiety and hysteria and selfishness on the point of parents who just refuse to protect their children, their childhood. I mean, they're so selfish and narcissistic, they're projecting their own anxiety onto their own child. And for me, that just shows a lack of empathy and the ability to put yourself in another person's shoes. It's a real social scourge right now i posted simply an image from statista of covid deaths by age group
Starting point is 00:43:12 right i said nothing made no comment screenshot post some establishment type democrat activist took the screen grab circled like circled, and then said, Tim Pool doesn't care that these people are going to die. And I'm like, I literally said nothing. I literally had no comment on the data other than I just posted the data like, here's some information for you. It shows you the weakness that they're concerned about. The largest group at risk are people who are over 65. There is a decent risk for people people over 40 and the risk diminishes for people who are under 40 uh i believe it's like 1.63 percent of deaths were under 40 close yeah and uh 30 according to the cdc of people hospitalized were obese so it's much more than that i read when it was 78 that cdc said they had obesity
Starting point is 00:44:01 but that is one study. It probably varies. It probably varies. CDC website said... It's just a headline. Yeah, 30.2% of hospitalizations since the start of the pandemic was obesity. 94% comorbidities. So I think understanding all the context,
Starting point is 00:44:17 having that information when you go to your doctor and talk to them about what makes sense for you, and being healthy. Take care of yourself. Eat right. Be right. Be well. All that good stuff. Ninety four percent of the people hospitalized by COVID have had comorbidity. That's right. CDC says that. Yeah, right. So in other words, one point six average
Starting point is 00:44:34 of people with cardiopulmonary diseases, lung disease, diabetes, et cetera. Age to morbidity. Yeah. And so it's older people. Yeah. So there are plausible causes of death and they happen to test positive for COVID as well. So they're not trying to do a diagnosis of a cause of death necessarily, but they're saying. I will stress too, a lot of people think that the 94% comorbidity means they didn't die from COVID. That's not true. Right. The way to describe it is like, imagine you have a bridge that's been old and dilapidated
Starting point is 00:45:06 and then someone jumps up and down on it. Like the COVID is the jumping up and down. Like, well, yeah, if you didn't do that, the bridge probably would have been fine. So you get something like COVID. And look, we've had a lot of people on this show,
Starting point is 00:45:18 conservatives, who have either been vaccinated or have gotten COVID. And it sounds bad. Yeah. We've talked to some people on the show. I don't want to out the people who have experienced bad sicknesses, but we've
Starting point is 00:45:29 had people who are like, dude, it was miserable. Like two weeks of fatigue. You get that with the shots, too, though. I mean, I had the Moderna round, a couple of those, and yeah, it wiped me for a couple of weeks. But the thing for this, we want to introduce it to all of our troops.
Starting point is 00:45:46 For me, that is too risky. These are young, athletic, physically fit people who are not necessarily at risk that much. It's very similar to seasonal flu if you look at the statistics for that particular age group, 20 to 30. And I think you wait until all of the results come in to make that decision. So I think they should be very careful about that. I definitely agree with being careful. I definitely think the challenge here is, I hope that they go on an individual basis. That's always the important thing because of potential underlying conditions. But at the same time, I mean, if we've got people that have to go
Starting point is 00:46:24 into conflict and deploy and go in areas, it would be nightmarish if there was an outbreak of COVID, of any illness, really. My understanding was that people, when they go through basic, they get a bunch of vaccines anyway. Absolutely, yeah. So I agree. I think we've got to be really careful right now simply because we need FDA approval for sure. We need to make sure we're doing right by all of the science. And with even Fauci saying the science changes as we learn more, it's like, okay, well, let's make sure if it's our military, we're going to be extra careful to make sure that we have the capability
Starting point is 00:46:55 to defend ourselves and our allies. And, you know, I'm just wondering if the vaccine could harm even metabolism or, you know, to have some sort of lingering effects. It is possible that it could cause some sort of reaction. And I mean, because you're intentionally stimulating the immune system to have a response against an antigen. But that's tricky. That is true. But this is something that Charlie Kirk brought up when we were on the debate with Vosh. He mentioned Ghislain Barre syndrome. And he said that the CDC has put out a nerve damage warning for the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. That side effect actually is for many other vaccines as well. So I went to the CDC a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:47:36 This was during, I think, Zika. And I did an interview because we were just trying to find some interesting stories. And it was around the time The Division came out. You ever play that game? I didn't play The Division. It's an awesome game, by the way. And it's basically like the world is a post-pandemic apocalyptic scenario. And so I was like, let's go do an interview with the CDC and ask them about their – I forgot what it was called.
Starting point is 00:47:58 It was like Operation Something where they simulated a large-scale pandemic. And it was really interesting. And what I was told there by some of the people at the CDC was there are risks for vaccines and side effects. They're well-known. They're on the CDC's website. Make sure you read that stuff and talk to your doctor because you could be in that small percentage group. They said the challenges for a lot of these diseases, if there's like, we're expecting to get 200,000 deaths from a disease and the vaccine could result in 50,000 adverse reactions, we have to choose the least amount of damage. So we'll encourage people to get the vaccines. And I understand that. It is
Starting point is 00:48:32 quite utilitarian, but I can't pretend to have the answers for people other than... But you see that with children, the mortality rate is lower than the incidence rate of reaction reported by VAERS. But I mean, obviously, mortality is worst case outcome. But pericarditis, myocarditis, and so on is very serious. So I mean, obviously, we sit here, we second guess, and we armchair a lot of these health experts. But when you look at, you know, the problem is, and you see with any kind of information system, it reminds me of a kind of like a Hayek versus Keynes sort of argument.
Starting point is 00:49:05 When you have decentralized sort of decision makers, we have doctors who can assess individual health risks and just have that patient-centric care that we're so used to in the United States where we have a consumer model of medicine provision. That has tended to serve the United States people very well. We have superior cancer treatment. We have some of the most advanced medical centers in the world. But what we're seeing right now is a more socialized medicine approach where bureaucrats who are not teaching or treating everyone in American society as if they're a homogenous group and we're all likely to have serious reaction to COVID or the Delta variant, which is predominant in the United States right
Starting point is 00:49:58 now and is much weaker and less deadly statistically, is treating us as if we're all at equal risk. This is not the way the United States medicine has been practiced. And we've always relied on our doctors to make the best judgments. There's a few exceptions, you know, smallpox, for example, you know, led to, you know, mandates for vaccines. So it isn't the first time it's ever happened in this country, by the way. But what we see with the vaccines is they just rolled out so fast with the warp speed. And there's a lot of conflicting information. We're in the information age now,
Starting point is 00:50:32 and we're getting pulled in different directions. It's undermining trust for a lot of people. And they're projecting their fear of the vaccine into their general distrust of the establishment. The people who have problems with the election and the people who have a problem with the vaccine, there's likely to be a very large overlap. However, it isn't the largest reticent group in the United States demographically. It's African-Americans, followed by Hispanics, which Asians seem to be the most likely to go get the vaccine. You know what?
Starting point is 00:50:58 Among educated, the largest- PhDs. PhDs. Yeah, yeah. It's interesting. It's strange. I ultimately think there's been a lot of people, because I always say talk to your doctor, and then I get the typical response from people is like, my doctor doesn't know anything or
Starting point is 00:51:10 otherwise, and I'm like, you have a bad doctor. You know what I mean? Man, I've been prescribed stuff in the past, I don't even know what it is. You know, when I got like, I injured my knee, they gave me some kind of steroid you get for like tendon inflammation and damage or whatever. I'm like, I don't know what this is. Thanks, doc. Patch me up and send me on my knee. They gave me some kind of steroid you get for like a tendon inflammation and damage or whatever. I'm like, I don't know what this is. Thanks, doc. Patch me up and send me on my way. Doctor hands me a bunch of things like, here you go. Take this stuff. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Prednisolone or something. Prednisone. Corticosteroid. Yeah. So I had damaged the what is it? Meniscus? Meniscus. Meniscus at the knee? Yeah. Yeah. I fell from like a seven foot quarter pipe to the deck. Thanks, dude. Whatiscus at the knee? Yeah. Yeah, I fell from like a seven-foot quarter pipe to the deck. Thanks, dude.
Starting point is 00:51:46 What were you trying to do? I was just cruising. I was trying to do a rock and roll just cruising around. I hung up. It happens, you know, when the front wheels hit it. And I go to the doctor, and he's like, here you go. And he literally pulled out a bunch of these little packets, and he's like, you're good. That's enough.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And he was like, he gave me the regimen or whatever, and I'm like, I don't know what it is. I'm going to take it. If you don't trust your doctor, you need to find a doctor you trust. And the crazy thing about it is, yeah, people can be political. You might go to a doctor and he's got like a Biden flag and he's waving it in front of you. Then go find a guy who's got the Trump flag and ask him. Oh, he's a doctor.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I don't know. Find a doctor you trust. But yeah, you're right. I think this weird thing happened with it's very tribalist where there's a big overlap between people who don't trust the establishment and also are skeptical of vaccines. But isn't it interesting how it switched with the election? So this is fascinating. The polling data shows that Democrats felt the economy was bad, but right when Joe Biden got elected, they felt the economy was good.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Like, come on. It's not based on economics. And of course we had Kam based on economics and other democrats were were throwing shade on the vaccine before the election and then once you're biden's election oh the vaccine's fine everybody has to get it it's a weird weird it's a weird flip yeah so i can understand you know people uh here's the only thing i can understand is i went and talked to my doctor my doctor said x like right on that's that's all other than that basing your view of your health off of political tribalism i I think, is really a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Like, yo, go for a walk, man. Turn Twitter off and get away from this. Can we wrap that up a little bit to the election and sort of the controversy about the election? What we're saying with the vaccine flip, where we saw we saw people, you know, Kamala Harris telling people like, you know, I wouldn't trust the vaccine from Trump, etc. You know, I think, you know, when we see the controversy in the election, of course, we had Mike Lindell's cyber symposium, all this stuff going on. It's still lingering. The aftermath of it and people still distrust the elections. Well, the thing that I find very interesting is and is that a lot of the objections of
Starting point is 00:53:38 people right now who have problems with the 2020 election, if you go back and look at Nancy Pelosi, you look at all the democrats and running up to the 2020 election they were they were nervous that the about the voting machine companies they were nervous about you know we had kill chain with hbo yeah documentary yeah harry hurst and all that we you know they were you know throwing i mean you go back early like 2020. On the House floor, they were debating all of these problems with our elections and the lack of security in the voting machines and so forth. The thing I find interesting is that I would just – one of the things that I found just went viral during this whole period of like in November and December is I would just find clips of Democrats or just TV shows talking about how terrible our election security was. And what really kind of opened my eyes is when Siza came out, said it was the most secure election in history.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And I knew that they could not have known that. And they just had no time to it. They had no time to investigate. So it looked like a PR release. So that really. How did you investigate the previous election? That was a big red flag for me. It's like, oh, size is saying it's already secure and they could not have investigated it that quickly.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And I'm not backing all of the conspiracy theories and stuff that flowed out there that proved to be false, like the German server thing that was just a stupid rumor. Or now the China hacking thing. Yeah, all of that stuff. I've never... I mean, look, I've looked into it. I mean, if there was something smoking gun there, I definitely would bring it to people's attention. I don't see the smoking guns. The closest thing that I've seen to a smoking gun is just the Fulton County video with the – looks like some shady activity going there. Which one?
Starting point is 00:55:15 The Fulton County video. When they kicked people out. State Farm Arena. They took people out. It looks like the election workers were doing ballots multiple times. It looks that way. But that's the closest thing to a smoking gun. That's all I was trying to say.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I see those things and I'm like, that's an anomaly. We should investigate. But you can't say what it is. But it's just one video they screwed up because it was the State Farm Arena video. They didn't know that it was on surveillance and that was subpoenaed. There were multiple places that were shut down after hours. And then you had to have spikes. Did they find those people actually did scan ballots multiple times?
Starting point is 00:55:54 See, they just found double counting. They never really went after them, like Kemp and Raffensperger or whatever, never went after them. I mean, they complained about it on social media. Raffensperger was like, oh, these people are reckless in their duty and we've had enough. Nobody was charged. I think one of the issues is with an election involving, what was it, like 170 million people or whatever? Yeah, you got 170 million people.
Starting point is 00:56:17 There's going to be instances like that. Right. And you can't take one morsel and extrapolate it to a large widespread claim or whatever. True. But you're going down to these swing states. And for me, the most substantial complaint about it was that the rules about the absentee balance and everything was changed extraordinarily and extra judiciously or extra legally. Let's put it that way. Emergency powers were invoked in these differences in Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Actually across the board.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Yeah. Even since Trump won, the rules were changed. Yeah. There were executive orders issued in some states. Others did pass it through the legislature. But I'm citing the ones that were brought forth in the Texas lawsuit that was just dismissed out of hand for lack of standing even though they gave an indication that it wouldn't have held up anyway, a hint that they were not partial to it. So I'm just saying a lot of these lawsuits were dismissed on lack of standing. you know, driving me is really to, I wonder about the role of private voting machine companies as this sort of opaque intermediary where they, they own the source code and the intellectual property.
Starting point is 00:57:33 They don't have to give you the passwords, uh, apparently as we see in Arizona, they don't have to give them access. So, um, if they are tabulating our results, who is holding them accountable and how that's, that's the real issue. It's very strange. It's very odd to me that, that the left If they are tabulating our results, who is holding them accountable and how? That's the real issue. It's very odd to me that the left doesn't seem to care about this corporate for-profit entity sitting in the middle of our democratic elections. With proprietary source code. Right, with proprietary. I mean, there's people who have suggested open source code elections, which could be a solution. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:58:05 But I'm just saying like these for profit entities and like Facebook funding these drop boxes in majority blue districts, according to analyses. This is a sort of unusual corporate intrusion into our democratic process that would normally be raising alarm bells on the left. And before Trump lost, they were raising red flags. And then they just stopped because – And I think right now I'm in favor of it. I say do the investigation, do the audit. Let's see what they can produce at the symposium, find whatever. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Here's what I think. The real problem is that Time magazine article, the shadow campaign to save the election. It was the Republicans in Pennsylvania drafting the legislation, passing legislation for, anomalies, conspiracy, things that are very, very difficult, if not in many ways impossible to prove. And if all that energy from Mike Lindell was a voter integrity symposium and he said – and they went up on stage and said, in Pennsylvania, the Constitution says absentee bouts function this way. And they passed this. That's not about that's not that's about persuasion. And that would dramatically alter and fortify the system, literally fortify the system. Instead, they're making claims that China, you know, working with deep states and NASA.
Starting point is 00:59:41 And then today you get this report from the Washington Times, not a leftist publication, by the way, conservative Christian, that one of the security guys that Mike Lindell hired said the data he had was a turd and he was tasked with turning that turd into a diamond. And the information does not substantiate claims about China hacking the election. Right. And what I'm seeing on the right to kind of just try to promote some healthy criticism on that side of the conversations, just what you said, you should put this energy into voter integrity laws. You should put it into trying to get your legislature to hold voting machine companies more accountable and to open up transparency in those regards. Those are responsible, intelligent political processes that we can work together and possibly even persuade independence.
Starting point is 01:00:25 But instead, paranoia is stultifying. It's self-defeating. It's debilitating. But some people are just addicted to it. They want to grab onto paranoia because it feels like their country is falling apart. Their worldview is being threatened in ways. Well, the country, I think, is falling apart. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Oh, absolutely. Our constitutional rights are definitely being eroded on almost a weekly basis. It's almost, it's startling. I mean, we had President Biden with his eviction decree violating the Third Amendment. It's amazing. You're very skilled. Somehow Biden managed to violate the Third Amendment? Amazing.
Starting point is 01:01:01 How did he do that? Wow. Wow. Okay. Congrats. You get in the history book for that reason yeah that's incredible um but i'm but just to go to your point we definitely need to really concentrate keep your eye on the ball i'm not trying to take anything away from mike lindell he believes in what he's
Starting point is 01:01:16 doing he's he's being sued he's under fire by dominion he obviously he's a true believer in what he's doing and and i give him credit for well it seems to me that he's very fervent about his cause at the very least. He tried to get the lawsuit dismissed. Yeah, I know, and then it said that the First Amendment is not an umbrella protection for it. He had initially said that he was happy to hear he was being sued because it would allow him to get to discovery, to pull the evidence faster. Also, it would have given him a venue to prove with a judge overseeing it that his evidence was true and correct. If he had the evidence to prove, why would he get the suit dismissed?
Starting point is 01:01:51 He'd be like, oh, great. I can now show it to a judge. And the judge is going to be like, wow, he was telling the truth. Maybe the dollar signs were daunting. Who knows? Because it's like $1.3 billion. But it seems to be their strategy. The truth is an affirmative defense.
Starting point is 01:02:03 That's true. And they're trying to scare people. You're right right look if if i said the sky is blue and someone sued me for defamation i'd be like i will love to come in and tell the judge look at the sky like waste your money by all means i don't even gotta do anything instead he said he was very happy but then filed a motion to dismiss which would obstruct discovery at the very least he could have had discovery that to me saying one thing and doing another, I mean, look, the guy makes great pillows. I genuinely think they're good pillows. I got the slippers.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I got the towels. It's because of Jack Posobiec, to be honest. He's like, you know, his tweets, I'm just like, I'm on Twitter, and I'm like, towels. I was like, we literally, we did need towels. We need guest towels. And I'm like, and I see this tweet one day, and I'm like, I was supposed to get towels last week, and I didn't, so I bought them. But I just, I... You put the code in, right?
Starting point is 01:02:46 You know what? I'll throw it to Steven Crowder. I'll throw it to Steven Crowder. Crowder said when he was doing his investigative work that he thinks someone gave Lindell bad information. Oh, no. And I wonder if what happened was initially Lindell was a true believer, and then he started to be like, wait a minute. Maybe this isn't as sound as I thought, so I've got to dismiss this lawsuit. I don't know, though. I mean, why would he do the symposium? I just, look,
Starting point is 01:03:08 I think you said it, people like the paranoia, it gives them a mission. I wish all of these people, there was like 190,000 people watching the symposium or something like that. Imagine if all of those people were watching a symposium on voter integrity, because you look what's happening now in Texas, right? They pass all these emergency provisions to make it ridiculously easy to vote. Okay, it should be easy to vote within reason, but not at the cost of security. You know, you give up security or, you know, you weaken your elections. You can't get them back. Instead, what's happening now is they served the arrest warrants for the Democrats because
Starting point is 01:03:43 they fled the state. They're saying, we did it. We passed the bill. Yay. The Republicans are acting like they won when they actually lost because their bill is a compromise. The reform bills we're seeing from Republicans don't completely reverse, in many states, the pandemic provisions. It curtailed them only a little bit. We saw this in Georgia, I think, when they were like, this voter suppression bill.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And it was like it actually still expands. You can just put your driver's license number and send it in. And that's new. It wasn't that way before the pandemic. So the Republicans are acting like they're fighting back, but they're actually going like, come in the back door. Right. And meanwhile, the people who should be standing up and screaming are distracted because someone's waving hash codes about China or something. And it's really odd. And if there is some mastermind presiding over this, I have to give him some credit
Starting point is 01:04:28 because the Georgia voter laws that you're talking about are weaker in some regards than like Delaware and Rhode Island and these other blue states. And yet when Major League Baseball pulls their all-star game out of the Atlanta area, everybody in the airlines issue these statements. Everybody goes, well, they assume that there must have been a really legit voter law that scared the left. It scared the Democrats, and so they had to do these extreme measures. So they moved to states that have more restrictions. Right, right. And then they moved it to Colorado.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And then it's just kind of like we assume and the sort of critics, sort of the voter law, the pandemic voter law critics, put it that way, sort of assume that this is a good law and it has merit. No, it's not necessarily the case. There's still a lot of loopholes going to what you said.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Let's talk about freedom, man. You see this thing with Arnold? Yes. Screw your freedom freedom i shouldn't do that impersonation uh arnold says uh screw your freedom to vaccine hesitant americans and uh that was it he was on cnn for some reason with uh with vindman uh army lieutenant colonel for some reason the whistleblower as he admits the the general idea i guess from from mr arnold the governator, is that with freedom comes responsibility. And that in a pandemic, people should be responsible and recognize their responsibility. You know what? He's not wrong.
Starting point is 01:05:57 He's just a dick. Don't screw your freedom. Freedom is one of the most important things. Protecting the individual protects the system as a whole. Decentralized systems work better. That's why America has been so bountiful and successful and wealthy. And that's why the Soviet Union no longer exists. So no, don't screw your freedom. Protect the freedom. And also recognize your responsibilities, but do it better.
Starting point is 01:06:15 In this instance, I think the issue is we're facing one of the most difficult challenges, and it's the threat of a pandemic from the authorities to try and gain, I don't know, somewhat ancillary political powers. They're gaining so much by exploiting this crisis. So the risk is, you know, during World War II, we had an office of censorship. Loose lips sink ships. That's crazy. You know, we hate censorship. But what would you do during World War II? You never know if someone's listening. You might have some information. Information wasn't traveling as fast.
Starting point is 01:06:50 So we do recognize our responsibility. But I don't know. I don't know. What are your thoughts on the celebrity stuff? Well, like I said to Arnold, I don't think he fundamentally understands what the issue here is or he's misrepresenting it.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It's not about freedom. You should always have the right to decide what goes into your body, whether a government authority figure says so or not. It's my body, my choice. And that goes back to the point that I was suggesting is the vaccine ultimately works to prevent you from getting severe symptoms of it. And Dr. Rochelle Walensky drove this out essentially a week and a half ago. So it's there in black and white for anybody to go read what she said herself. But the point remains that it is a decision to limit the risk of the virus that it poses to me individually. And so it's each person's life to live on their own,
Starting point is 01:07:36 and we should respect each person's autonomy. It's not like people are going to be spreading the disease if they're asymptomatic and they haven't gotten the vaccine. That is really such a far extreme outlier case that we are really trying to put some totalitarian system in place to prevent extreme outliers. It seems to be like what we're doing. Did they flip on asymptomatic spread? It's very low. Like it was something like 19 to 30 percent of the spread is pre-symptomatic. And then I think asymptomatic was lower than that. This is why I can't stand the celebrities.
Starting point is 01:08:15 This is one of the most damaging things you could do if you were actively trying to get people to get the vaccine. The best thing you could do to protect individuals to make sure we reduce the amount of adverse events that we see in fairs and to it's to tell people i trust you to make the right decision i trust you to talk to someone you trust like you you've got to you got to give you know what i mean when you come out and you bash someone over the head figuratively like do as i say or else they say i don't trust you when you say screw your freedom you're like you're turning it into a political paradigm at that point. What you need to be doing is if I was going to trust somebody who took the vaccine and, look, I decided to take the vaccine because I crunched the data.
Starting point is 01:08:52 I said states that have higher vaccination rates, it looks like they have less percentage of people who are getting severe symptoms. It seems like it's working. So that persuaded me. Like I just did my own data analysis and ran the comparative research and I found that, OK, it holds up. It washes. So you look people in the eye and people who are hesitant or afraid to use a vaccine. And I'm not telling anybody to use it or not use it. Don't don't don't don't get me wrong. But I would say you appeal to you like, you know, I don't want to see people get extremely sick with this virus. I don't want to see your children lose a loved one over this. And so if you're at risk, you should talk to your doctor about getting this because it could really save your life potentially. If they would just leave it with that kind of sincere pitch, then it would be more persuasive to people. But when you interject the politics in there and the mandates and and where we already have uh what's a fully vaccinated rate is 60 plus in the u.s yeah i think it's over 50 i 50.2 60 of adults i
Starting point is 01:09:52 believe um okay more or less yeah 60 of adults i believe the last time i checked the data australia was two years ago yeah wow yeah and and so i i just believe I just believe that it does help for adults who are especially over 40. 98.4% or so of the mortality is over 40 years old. So I think that the statistics bear out that you should consider getting it at that rate. The issue is freedom. Yeah, but they turn into a freedom versus authority thing. This is why the Arnold thing is such a problem because we're talking about vaccine passports.
Starting point is 01:10:30 We're talking about, you know, Libby Emmons, who was on the show recently, she tweeted that she doesn't believe children should have to wear masks, but her child will be wearing a mask because there's no options in New York City. And I'm just like, leave New York City. You know, like, don't make your kid go.
Starting point is 01:10:48 If you think it's wrong for your child, you make the choice. It's about freedom. So when he's saying screw your freedom, I don't I don't feel like he's actually talking about the vaccine, to be honest. I think he's talking about the expansion of the surveillance state, the expansion of people demanding you show your papers, things I do not agree with. I think there's a mix between individual responsibility and responsibility to the greater community, and we have to find a balance, and it's not in authoritarianism.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Making everybody adhere to a strict authority. Now, people have to have some level of autonomy. That's why I was saying, the Soviet Union, they lasted, what, 69 years? Fell apart? The United States, a couple hundred years, and the wealthiest, most powerful country, and all that good stuff? It's because of decentralization. It's because of liberty. It's because people can challenge the status quo.
Starting point is 01:11:35 We're losing that. I think there are times when you want to install authoritarian activity to preserve a nation, which we did with the polio vaccine, I think, or with smallpox we brought up earlier. Smallpox, however, does not exist in the animal population other than humans that we knew of.
Starting point is 01:11:52 So that was why we were able to vaccinate and wipe it out. So it was an effective use of an authoritarian vaccine. This virus seems to exist in the animal population, meaning that you can't destroy it with a vaccine because it's going to be all the animals that aren't vaccinated at all times. Mutations can occur in animals, I guess. Right. And then the mutations... It seems more similar to a flu, which is difficult to...
Starting point is 01:12:14 We haven't figured out how to eradicate the flu yet. Right. So I don't see an... It just doesn't make sense to authoritatively do that. It'll be booster shots forever. I mean, the third shot came out today. For the immunocompromised. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:12:31 Okay, good. All right. But the issue should be on the policy front, it should be get your yearly COVID shot. But not mandate, not lock everything down. I don't have an issue with yearly flu shots. It should be like the flu shot. And what we're seeing with the Delta variant is sort of the normal course of pandemics that we've seen from 1968 and 1919,
Starting point is 01:12:52 where you have this deadly wave, and then it gets the mutates into a more contagious but less deadly variant. So it's sort of a natural flow of it that's kind of hidden with the obsession about cases right now. But if you look at the mortality rates and hospitalization, legitimate hospitalizations, it kind of bears it out. And what I mean by that is like they don't go into a hospital for a routine checkup or something and they happen to test for COVID. That doesn't necessarily mean they went there for COVID. So this very opaque data is difficult and they've made mistakes with it lately. But the point is that it does seem to strike me the risk breakdown is like it should be like a flu shot. The doctor says, I recommend that you get it because you're obese or you have some sort of health factors and you're in the age group. But mandating that children get it,
Starting point is 01:13:44 I don't see the science there at this point. I just don't really think the mandates in general. Yeah. Because the problem arises when, like that venue I mentioned where the woman couldn't go to a show because her doctor recommended against it. Are we really going this route where it's like in New York City you're not going to be able to go to a bar because they're like, well, then you've got to get a negative test. So we're going to put a financial pressure.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I assume that I heard they're not doing the free tests anymore, I guess. So now what? Every three days you got to go to a clinic because you have an underlying medical condition. It's like throw the ADA out the window, man. I'm not OK with that. I think we have to respect individual autonomy. Well, one thing that we could say right now about the progressive left is they haven't been hiding who they are for since woodrow wilson uh they have you know you
Starting point is 01:14:30 you brought he brought up like the alien sedition act it's or the alien uh yeah the alien sedition act again part two uh that basically made it against uh against the government to criticize it during wartime etc i'm they have wanted a technocratic managed society since that period. And what the information aid is in 1990 is giving them the tools to do it. And since everything is a means to an end for these people, and you could read it in Saul Alinsky, you know, Reveille for Radicals or whatever, everything is a means to an end. So they will weaponize the DOJ. They will weaponize the CDCJ they will weaponize the CDC
Starting point is 01:15:05 they will weaponize every tool at their disposal there is no moral barrier that was in the place when the constitution was written for them they don't even see those barriers they see the utopian end line as a perfectly little managed anthill where they basically just direct people to go in a place and it's all harmonious and everybody has their little food in their little house and their little transport and it's not polluting the environment etc etc and that's what they see and i you know that's where you get like very intelligent people support these sort of causes they don't see it as authoritarian they just see it as proper management of society um and so for us you know we're not i'm not going to speak for you but i mean from my personal perspective of respecting the Constitution and individual rights control that they have over their own lives,
Starting point is 01:16:05 if this is taken away, then humanity, as we know it, is lost. It's not – for me, humanity sort of ceases to exist. It'll be the Borg. Yes. You know what? You know what this is? It goes back to colleges. When I was a kid and everyone kept demanding I go to college.
Starting point is 01:16:26 You got to go to college to get that degree. I was like, I can't afford to go to college. Get loans. Why? What am I going to do in college? You know, I was lucky because I was told when I was in grade school, trust me, grade school is stupid. Once you go to high school, it's so much better. They have these different programs and you can choose some of your classes. And I was like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:42 And then I went to high school and it was the exact same trash. And so I said, I'm okay. And then I went to high school and it was the exact same trash. And so I said, I'm out. Then when they came to me and said, college is different, trust me, I say, I'm not going to believe you this time. It was different, though. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:16:52 You don't have to go to class. I went to... I'm with Ian on that one. Well, sure, I guess truancy laws don't exist when you're paying the bill. But I went to a community college for a couple months. Me too. And I was like, this is a waste of my time.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Complete waste. It's the same garbage. Here's what ends up happening. You get these young people. They haven't had jobs ever. They're 22 years old, 24 years old. They've never had a job, and they're graduating college. They have massive debt.
Starting point is 01:17:20 They can't pay off. Now they're trying to enter a labor market with no discernible skills other than a college degree. So they're getting entry-level trash positions where they struggle to pay off their college debt. And then they eventually say, someone paid this for me. The government should pay it for me. It's not my fault. And where's the authority figure to tell me what to do? Because throughout the entire lives in the institutionalized learning facilities, there was always an authority telling them what to do. And now here they are once again saying,
Starting point is 01:17:49 someone should be telling you what to do. I shouldn't have to deal with this or pay for it. Instead, I think people should get jobs when they're younger, real ones. But a lot of these kids didn't do it. I can't tell you how many people I know left as activists, told me their life story was like, I went to grade school, then high school, then college, and I graduated college,
Starting point is 01:18:06 and here I am as an activist. I highly, if you're a parent, I highly advise you to make your kid get a job when they're 12. Just something local. Lawn mowing. Well, for me, I waited to go to college, and I worked for like five years, doing menial jobs and stuff that kind of sucked, to be honest with you. You know, it was tough. I was in southern Iowa, and I mean, basically, I went to college as a way not to go to work a sucky job
Starting point is 01:18:29 because my grandpa was like, oh, well, you don't want to work in office. You got to go to college or whatever. So and I got it. That's not true. Well, and well, I found that out because when I got my four-year degree, I mean, I triple majored in, you know, poli sci, Russian stuff. You know, I found that, that like i tried to get a job right after four-year college and it was like almost impossible there was a flood of four-year
Starting point is 01:18:49 graduates yep and i was just like well i have to go to graduate school then to really show that i'm not a bs-er and then i know how how to do research and i know i know my stuff so i'm gonna have to go to a two-year you know a graduate as a bs- or the bachelor of science yes yes i found that uh you know in the past 10 years my experience has been college degrees have been detrimental in the hiring process so one of the stories i've told is about my friend who was running a mid-level it was it was a small business but he did like medium chain businesses restaurants for digital marketing and he kept hiring college grads because he assumed the degree meant something. They couldn't do the work. They constantly called with problems and complaints like, hey, the client did this. What do I do? And he's like, I hired you to do the job. Figure it
Starting point is 01:19:32 out. I'm not here to do a job for you. And then eventually he fires them. He hires more people. They have the same problem. He fires them. Now he's running out of money. So he's like, he goes on Craigslist and he finds a couple of people who are like, I moved to LA to be actors. And he was like, I can only afford to pay you, you know, X per hour. And they were like, sounds good to us. So we got him for cheaper, never called him with a problem. And so he told me the story where he's like, I went out, I was doing a meeting with new clients and then I don't get any, I don't hear anything from him.
Starting point is 01:20:01 I'm kind of worried because I know there's always problems with clients. They're not calling me. I go back to the office. Anything happen today? Like because I know there's always problems with clients. They're not calling me. I go back to the office. Anything happen today? Like, no, all good, boss. No problems with clients? Oh, yeah, one of the clients posted something dumb, but we took care of it. And then he said he realized the kids who defied the establishment,
Starting point is 01:20:15 when they said go to college and get a degree, when they said I'll do whatever you say, these are the people who couldn't solve the problem on their own. But the kids who dropped out and said I'm going to go find my own path were the people more likely to solve the problem on their own. But the kids who dropped out and said, I'm going to go on the, I'm going to go find my own path where the people more likely to solve the problem on their own. I, so I, I, this is a story that I've heard throughout my life and I'm fortunate enough to have the internet and to have friends and to really thought this through, to think this through. I remember reading about just doing the basic math. You're 18 years old. You started a fast food restaurant. You work for four years. After four years, you're probably making a little bit more money.
Starting point is 01:20:47 You've probably saved a little bit of money. And you might even be an assistant manager. You spend four years in college. You're now negative 40 grand. You have no work experience. And you're hoping that these businesses will hire you based on your degree. But you're probably going to get a grunt entry-level position. Meanwhile, your buddy who's the same age as you is a manager making, you know, at the time,
Starting point is 01:21:05 you know, $30,000 or $40,000 a year and you're making $10 an hour. So I knew this one kid. He told me that he went to a web dev firm because he was a web developer. Self-taught. He was a kid
Starting point is 01:21:14 and he was just learning to, you know, do web dev stuff. He got hired for, I think they were paying him like $27,000 a year. This was 15 years ago or whatever. And he said what they told him was everybody who came in with a degree had high salary salary expectations because they had to pay off their debt and they said we don't have enough to pay you 40 and then
Starting point is 01:21:33 so all of a sudden this kid comes along was 18 and they're like do you have the skills to do all these different things he's like oh yeah and he shows him his portfolio and they're like perfect how's 27 and he laughed he's like 27 whoa that's's 27? And he laughed. He's like, 27? Whoa, that's so much money. And he said, his boss told him straight up, we couldn't afford to hire at the expectation these college grads wanted. So we thought we weren't going to be able to hire anybody and grow the business. And then you came along, we were able to afford you because we'd have to have that premium on college degrees. So I always tell people the most important thing right now, especially with the influence, the attention economy, social media influencers, you got to learn yourself to solve problems.
Starting point is 01:22:09 I think college is quicksand. It is, it is, it is, they're, they're throwing you off. Misery loves company. Hey, I went to college. You should go to college too. Now you're finding out that a lot of these, these, these, these businesses say college degree or, you know, equivalent experience. If you've got a portfolio and it's really, really good, they'll hire you.
Starting point is 01:22:27 If you show up and you're like, I once interned at a company and I have a degree, they're going to be like, if you can't show me the work, I don't care. So don't waste your time. If you're an actor, I went to school for acting and in the modern economy, you're better off making a YouTube channel and getting 600,000 subscribers in the four years after high school than going to acting school if you want to become a famous actor after that. Because they're going to hire you if you have a million followers. They're going to put you in a commercial.
Starting point is 01:22:52 You're going to be making six figures per job. But if you go to college, then you're going to spend 15 years that you're like, oh, I've got to start a social media account when you're in your 30s. And you're like, I've seen so many people. They're just now starting their social media presences. My friends with actors in L.A. just sell. Yeah, well, I mean, I went to art school for a couple of weeks, I don't know, a month. And I dropped out.
Starting point is 01:23:14 I was like, whoa, they want to charge me $18,000. I mean, if I'm Picasso, it's going to be obvious to people. I don't need to do still lifes to kind of build myself up. Either I have a passion for it and I can do it on my own or I can't. That changed. I mean, I wound up going to a community college because it was much more cost effective. But then I found out I was good at academics, psychology, et cetera. And so I kept pushing and pushing. But it's kind of a trap because, you know, I tried to go to college to sort of escape the poverty and the kind of realities of work-a-day life, and it was just such a contrast that I could go to school and be around other young people and just having fun and learning things, which I love to do. But I just kept on – kept on felting like I had to keep going to separate myself from others.
Starting point is 01:24:02 My first job, I was hired at a little liberal arts college in Bar. There's a funny story about this. Very briefly, I was hired as an international program manager for about $37,000 in New York, which is not much for that state. Scrapped by for about, did some interesting things for about six months, but then I was sort of let go because she figured out I was not a raging leftist. This was a manager who is well connected with George Soros. And I was sort of the liaison between this Bard College and St. Petersburg in Russia, Smolny Institute or whatever. And I would speak Russian.
Starting point is 01:24:37 And so I was kind of the liaison here. It's funny that, you know, Putin sort of figured out that this small liberal arts college was Soros funded and Soros connected and basically had cut off all ties to them. So right when I when I when I when I left this job at Bard College years ago, I went to pursue my Ph.D. at SUNY Albany. All of them Marxists, sated Maoists, Marxist Leninists, you know, a little bit of Fabian Socialist thrown in, but not much. And I studied Marxism. But really, the whole process for me is a little bit, the only value I got out of it was just realizing they're full of ass. That was the only thing, because I kept going, because I'm like, God, surely these guys have 150, 160 IQs. They have some knowledge and
Starting point is 01:25:25 wisdom to impart with me. No, that's not what they were doing. They were really just grooming people to be a part of an activist radical movement. They weren't really looking for truth. They were looking to change the world in their own image, in their own perception. And they wanted to recruit foot soldiers into it and kind of progressing through the ranks kind of progressing, you know, progressing through the ranks. Oh, you can make colonel. Oh, you can make general, you know, if you're a tenured doctor or whatever in this sort of, you know, weaponized college environment. So when I left, I went to independent media, independent journal review, got in at the
Starting point is 01:25:59 ground floor. One of the first few people hired and it took off. But the value I got out of it was just I know their agenda on the inside. Like I had to read stacks of social science gobbledygook that would just make, you know, a normal person's, you know, mind melt district or whatever who has a phd or whatever like you know at least i can kind of understand what's behind the superficial sort of crt program and like you know oh i mean it's kind of like you can't bs a bs or like i already know where you're coming out with this i know what your objectives are it's to make kids um more woke just did you see that Rumble announced their
Starting point is 01:26:47 basically signed a bunch of people to produce content? Oh, good. I've been using Rumble for a while since YouTube. YouTube actually gave me a strike. The only strike I had on my account was for showing Donald Trump at a public appearance. I just posted the video of Donald Trump talking. No commentary commentary no nothing apparently he must have uh mentioned the verboten election word you know and that was it they gave me a strike for that and then that was just like woke me up so like i can't even just objectively do any kind of journalism or anything and they'll just they'll say if they don't like it what's
Starting point is 01:27:19 fascinating is the criticism that establishment journalists are throwing at this eclectic group i mean you've got Siraj Hajmi. He's not a hardcore right-winger by any means. You've got Tulsi Gabbard. I know. She's rather progressive, actually. And Glenn Greenwald. And it's funny when I see this criticism.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Boy, do they really hate. They're so jealous. They're working for skin suit companies. The New York Times, it's got funding because it's got name value. It's longstanding and people subscribe to it because it's just got that position, right? But we here at TimCast.com, go to the website, sign up. We are not funded by any millionaires or billionaires. It is just the users, the members, and the revenue we get. There is no surreptitious
Starting point is 01:28:06 funding or high-profile investors. This freaks them out. It's funny to me that they have this attitude on Twitter where they try to say things. They insult me for being a high school dropout and stuff like that. And I'm like, yo, I'm proud of that. And then they go, it shows. I'm like, it certainly does because you guys don't understand the difference between deontology and utilitarianism. And I'm just some it certainly does. Because you guys don't understand the difference between deontology and utilitarianism. And I'm just some dude who reads online. And you went to school for that stuff. Imagine having an economics degree and not knowing what capitalism is.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Can we call you a high school opt-out? Because you definitely didn't drop in any fashion. I mean, you elevated when you left that organization. Yeah. It was dragging you down. And you were able to you didn't drop out. You raised up out of it. It's funny because
Starting point is 01:28:49 they like to take things out of context and then argue that I'm dumb or whatever and I'm like, that's fine by me. I don't care what you call me. We got here a growing company. We've got a couple dozen employees at this point. I think we'll probably be at like 50 within the next year or so. It's getting bigger and bigger and bigger. We're talking about how we got to figure out
Starting point is 01:29:07 where we're going to put the new headquarters because we've got to buy another building. Oh man, I'm so upset that these people don't think I'm smart when they're not able to find a job and they're struggling with their lives and advocating for insane policies that make no sense. And we're over here having a very successful business. So I'm not saying that because I'm trying to drag them down or insult them, or I'm trying to justify my ego to myself or anything. I'm trying to point out, don't let these people lead you astray with their bad advice. Misery loves company. They want you sitting in the cesspool because crabs in a barrel, man, they will pull you back in. You can find your own way. You can be successful if you build it yourself. I think the path to success is perseverance.
Starting point is 01:29:44 It doesn't matter if you go to school. It doesn't matter what country you're from. If you keep working, you work hard enough, you can succeed. No, I'm on the same page. Obviously, I figured that out. I mean, I was at Fox News for a while until the election. It was a great experience in a lot of ways, insightful to be on the inside of a big cable news show. But since I left and went on my own, you know, you can do it. You can start your own company. It is possible still for now. I would knock on wood, but I'm not allowed to bang on the wood. And so, like, I mean, I've had a great experience. I mean, I've syndicated with Trending Politics, which has been a good partner of mine.
Starting point is 01:30:20 And, you know, my works get read, and I am really grateful for that. But, I mean, obviously, you know, now is the time to push. Like, the twilight is shrinking. So, you know, there may be a couple of years left, but, you know, I'm grateful to places like Rumble that are at least giving such a more trustworthy outlet than YouTube. I'm not a fan of YouTube, and if I do my own podcasting thing, it will be with Rumble. YouTube is an afterthought for me, and I'm glad
Starting point is 01:30:51 Google Alphabet, really. Yeah, right, right, which I never understood why Google was able to buy YouTube, but that's another conversation. Was it a billion? It was the first $1 billion acquisition. Yeah, for me, it's wild. Let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, give us a like, conversation. Was it a billion? It was the first $1 billion acquisition. It is. Yeah. For me, it's wild.
Starting point is 01:31:06 Let's go to Super Chats. Yeah. If you haven't already, give us a like. Smash that like button. Do it for Ian. Do it. Do it for Ian.
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Starting point is 01:31:20 because we record them and then publish them. They are recorded live but they aren't live themselves. And share the show with your friends if you like it. Let's read some of these super chats. All right, let's see. Doc Holliday says, the CCP, with all its authoritative power, couldn't prevent subsequent outbreaks.
Starting point is 01:31:37 How much power are we prepared to give our government to stop a pandemic that couldn't be stopped by a totalitarian system? That's a great question. Yeah, that's a really good point, actually. I had a friend that had cancer, and she was taking medicine and pharmaceuticals. I was like, well, why don't you try diet? And she's like, no, the doctor just told me to take this, take this, but she was still feeling kind of ill.
Starting point is 01:31:54 And I was like, how long are you going to let them tell you what to do? How long are you just going to go on? Are you going to let them cut your arm off? And that, like, shocked her up, and she went no. And ever since, she's had a way more clear head on her shoulders about that industry. I think people need to realize that medical professionals are people, just like plumbers are people and carpenters are people. And there's such a thing as the bottom of the class, the medical school. So make sure you get a good doctor, man.
Starting point is 01:32:17 That's right. Because we are the experiment. I mean, of the medical – They're practicing. Yeah. It's a giant ongoing experiment that we're all part of. I have had a lot of really great doctors in my life who have advocated for, like, good diet. I've had doctors tell me, like, cut the sugars out.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Sugars are bad. Meanwhile, you get the food pyramid, which is garbage. I've had doctors that I feel like have been completely honest. So I don't know. Whatever. But, yeah, I think the point I want to make sure we hit on this one is China welded people's doors shut. And they're still dealing with problems right now. They're locking down again. So it's just like.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Like how far is too far? Decide that right now for yourself and remember that if it happens. Yeah. Right. All right. Harry To says mayo is racist. End of story. All right.
Starting point is 01:32:59 All right. If you say so. Crayson says, Ian, check out a YouTube channel called Voices of the Past. They read old journals and firsthand accounts of historical events. For example, the Japanese perspective of the first Portuguese traders. Cool. That's really interesting. Danimal Cracker says, AMC is still going to the moon.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Tim, are you still a diamond-handed space ape? You guys should look into having Trey Collins on. He is the spiritual leader of the apes. I am still diamond-handed SpaceApe. I have a bunch of AMC. I like AMC. I like movies. I've not been following the AMC stuff in the short.
Starting point is 01:33:33 I'm not – look, by all means, people, do your thing, whatever. My attitude is we went and saw – what movie did we go see? Black Widow. I love going to the movies, man. Pretty sure we went to an AMC. So I like it. It's one of the things that I'm really upset about when they locked everything down. I don't got to go to a restaurant.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I can make food. I'm happy with that. But the movies are fun. Did you guys ever have friends or work at a movie theater or have friends that did? Yeah. Let you upstairs. Yes. Well, my Russian teacher in high school, he had a movie theater.
Starting point is 01:34:01 And my buddy worked there. And we went up there. And really one of these small town movie theaters and ain't nothing like it. The feel of it and the musty smell of it. All right. Twimmy
Starting point is 01:34:16 says, personally not a fan of this new format. I've been a fan since the true show Shimcast began. This new Tim guy is a far right anti-vax beanie grifter. Bring back Shimcast. Down with Timcast. Seamus is really good at what he does. He is, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's tough to
Starting point is 01:34:32 talk to him. We're launching a non-profit. All right. Journalistic Enterprise. It's going to be a fact-checking outlet. The way it'll work is, I've been talking about this for a while, but we're actually filing the paperwork now, and Seamus will be involved, too, so really excited it is uh we're going to sample 100 articles within like the past month from every news outlet and then we're going to go through the articles based
Starting point is 01:34:53 on the the standard journalistic ethics from like the spj or whatever and then if there's any violation we give the article an x and then we load it up and we say out of the 100 articles reviewed 63 were rated as you know ethical journalism you know and we say out of the 100 articles reviewed, 63 were rated as ethical journalism 37 or whatever I love that. Outstanding. I'll be sure to keep an eye on that. I think you'll see like the Huffington Post get a zero and I'm not saying it to be mean. I'm saying it's because they're clearly
Starting point is 01:35:16 an opinion website but they don't label their articles as opinions. Well the write up on that Mayo article I mean it was something like you would fail if I was a professor at a community college you would fail for just so many reasons. So if they're asserting something to be news, but it's opinion, that's an ethical violation. So I do think there's a lot of conservative commentary sites that would also get low scores for that. You make sure to keep an eye on Reuters and AP because I feel like they've been really, they've really been hurting their credibility
Starting point is 01:35:40 lately. And I used to respect them a lot. but I think the last few years Trump broke them I think for whatever reason minimizing harm is a journalistic ethic so CNN for instance when they named the warehouse worker who posted the meme that was a violation of journalistic ethics you don't need to destroy the man's life to tell the story so they maximize time in that regard we give it an x what we're going to do is we'll have a spreadsheet for each outlet and we'll list all the articles you'll'll see all the articles. You'll see circles and Xs and then it'll explain why. Is it possible to find how many violations per article? Like if one
Starting point is 01:36:11 article has six violations and then they consistently have six violations per article, that's like six times the violation. That's way worse than a company that does one violation per article. No, no, no. It's not about whether or not their articles are egregiously bad. It's about, like, it's a harder standard in this capacity like are they correct is it perfect they are or they're not perfect or is it slightly off is it slightly off it's a full x full fail and so a lot
Starting point is 01:36:35 of these leftist publications that purport to be news and if they're rated by news guard as a new as a certified truth oh we're we're going to come out and be like, well, we will use NewsGuard and we will use Wikipedia. Specifically, so like the Huffington Post, for instance, is considered by Wikipedia to be a reliable news source. Whoa. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:54 And NewsGuard considers them a reliable news source. For that reason, they will get zeros across the board because every article is an opinion piece. Absolutely. And they don't put opinion on it. And so,
Starting point is 01:37:03 and we'll say that, so long as establishment institutions rate this source as reliable news and the institution itself considers itself to be a news outlet, we will not give a pass. As for the Daily Wire, they call themselves conservative commentary and conservative spin the news. In that case, we might just say this is an opinion website. We don't rate ethics and opinion. Every single one of my articles has opinion on it because I just feel like there are just so many assumptions. I'm arguing against, most of the time I'm arguing with counterfactuals
Starting point is 01:37:31 and providing data and evidence, but it's very much framed in the sense that what the mainstream media understanding of this subject is lacking. So here's some more information about this narrative. When we run this, if your website says this is an opinion analysis website, then we just say this is an opinion analysis website. We're not here to rate.
Starting point is 01:37:53 The New York Times, for instance, when they publish news, are they injecting – so look, a lot of these partisan sites will probably be fine because they just say they're leftist commentary or activist commentary or conservative commentary. So we're going to be like, guys, this website, they may – we'll probably check them on a factual basis, not an opinion basis. That's the right way to do it, yeah. But the Huffington Post will get a strike for an opinion piece because they don't label anything as opinion when they are. But if a website says the leading conservative opinion and they're publishing fake news, we'll be like XXXX. We just won't hit them for opinion stuff. But that's important too because a lot of people think when they read – like framing is big. Framing – if something is falsely framed, that's opinion.
Starting point is 01:38:36 So if it says like – if they include adjectives like Donald Trump disgustingly referred to as a person by this name, that's an opinion. Absolutely. That adjective, that framing device. If they say that Donald Trump took a dangerous move today to do X, that's an opinion. If it says today Donald Trump did a backflip, that's a fact. Right. I mean, he didn't literally do a backflip. But if a story is just like Donald Trump boarded Air Force One, he flew to this place where he met with this person to do this thing, we say you're good.
Starting point is 01:39:03 But if they say Donald Trump made a disastrous attempt at meeting with a dictator, that's opinion. Strike. Right. And I think people will be surprised how much is opinion. Oh, absolutely. I go to the New York Times all the time. I can't get through the lead paragraph without an opinion like 80% of the time. And so the New York Times might get a score of like 10 out of 100.
Starting point is 01:39:23 They almost always interject some types of adjectival descriptions that are not factual or empirical. It's some sort of value judgment or moral, ethical judgment. It's because it doesn't sell anymore. And that's why we want to do this nonprofit so that we can be like, here's our summary of the site. I'm less concerned about funding. Like NewsGuard wants to know who's funding you. I'm less concerned. But let's read some more of these superchats.
Starting point is 01:39:46 All right. Let's see. Ben G. Cole Merez says, Please watch the video Creators Shouldn't Own Their Own Creations by UniqueNamesaurus. He makes an amazing case for ending IP
Starting point is 01:39:58 and an alternative to our current payment models. It'll blow your mind, Tim. Ian, you should probably check that out. What's it called again creators shouldn't own their creations own their own creations all right unspecial noob says i spent an hour last night trying to find shimcast on google to become a member and support the channel i'm calling bs it doesn't exist should be called shamcast not shimcast it should have been called shamcast apparently uh shamas said they call him Shim Sham Coghlan.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Oh, yeah. I can see it. All right. Mike Pierce says, have you heard about Oregon governor signing a bill to remove proficiency exams of reading, writing, and math to graduate high school? Also, will you have Robert Barnes on the show? He said he's willing to come on. We absolutely will have Robert Barnes on the show. We just have willing to come on we absolutely will have Robert Barnes on the show
Starting point is 01:40:45 we just have to book him and so we will do that and yes I heard about Oregon that it's not about meritocracy anymore it's about just put them all in a little box and ship them out yeah it's part of a patriarchal system
Starting point is 01:41:02 I believe because of white system of oppression. So I guess, and if you live in another country and you have to take tests, we're somehow internationally imposing oppression abroad. So I think the Japanese students, they still have to do tests, and Chinese students, they have to test tests. So I don't, yeah, I'm not quite following their argument. All right, let's read this one. FC3, what does it say? FC3S says, Ian is right on IP.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Why does a performer deserve more for their work than your average blue-collar worker? If I fix a car, I don't charge every driver for the work that I've done. You create one widget, you get paid for one widget. That's right. If I write one song, everybody who buys that song has to pay me $5 for it.
Starting point is 01:41:50 But if you can make unlimited copies for free, then the supply increases infinitely almost, exponentially at the very least. So then shouldn't the value, the demand then decrease by that inverse? Why? It's just the nature of economics.
Starting point is 01:42:05 No, that's for scarcity. Yeah, you've eliminated scarcity from amount of songs you can copy. You don't have to forge the CD and send it out anymore. But it's your property, regardless of whether or not you can make it easily. The law says so. I'm just pointing out the nature of it. Bird houses are really easy to make. Why don't we just make it so that you have to give them away if you have too many?
Starting point is 01:42:25 Oh, what's that? A surplus of corn? You shouldn't be allowed to do what you want with your property. You should have to give it away. Birdhouses and corn are like finite resources. I said when there's a surplus of corn. But that's still a finite resource. The digital copies can be done relatively infinitely.
Starting point is 01:42:39 I don't think that changes. Well, it's changed the economy. That's what the whole argument is, is the piracy movement, whatever you want to call it. I think of it more as just a copy, a copy fest. I think we have this argument every so often where Ian thinks piracy is okay in terms of – I just don't think it's – I don't think we should call it piracy. I've heard that – I don't know if it's true – that the FBI is using calling it piracy and going after them with international piracy laws and treating them like actual people with weapons on boats that are...
Starting point is 01:43:07 Like the law of the seas sort of thing? So my brother made an extremely viral video that probably has a collective's multi-billion views. And his face isn't in it, nor is his name. And it's been ripped off thousands of times probably. And that's what's wrong with this. Someone taking it and then re-hosting it and making money off of someone else's work.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Well, people do that with my content, and I have to just approach them and say, hey, stop using my... Yeah, that's the same thing. JP Sears, some people stole his video, uploaded it to Facebook, and that's how he got famous, and then he became super rich after that.
Starting point is 01:43:39 It's a good thing his face is a name. Exactly. See, but that's not most people. Most people aren't famous, and a lot of art doesn't include the name of the individual. So stealing their content and then repurposing it, we call it freebooting. And it's extremely detrimental to people. I've been trying to think of a technological solution where you could track where the original came from and then with the payments of the cryptocurrency, use smart contracts to automatically divide the payment to the original creator as well as any resalers
Starting point is 01:44:05 but i as the way it looks i just see the the inevitable economic restructure because of the increase in supply padre mortala says all right man what the hell do you want people to do leave cities not leave cities fight back not fight back you really riled some feathers in the my pillow video i'll still watch, but warily. I've said it over and over again. Leave cities. When have I said don't leave the cities? I said I respect the people who want to stay and fight back, but man, when you're 20% of the vote versus 80% of the people
Starting point is 01:44:33 who are burning it down, why would you stay there? I've repeatedly said, if you're sitting in the living room while the garage is on fire and you're like, I'm not going to leave, when the fire comes, don't expect me to come and shed a tear for you because you chose to stay in a burning building. So yeah, I think people should get out of cities. As for the MyPillow stuff, people should be riled up about all the changes that they did in the voting laws, like in Pennsylvania. Instead, they got the guy from MyPillow is telling them all this
Starting point is 01:45:01 grandiose stuff that he's never produced the smoking gun for, just anomalies. I admit the anomalies give me pause. A lot of them, like the Bellwether counties, I'm like, that's very strange. How does that happen? We should investigate and do audits, and I'm welcome for that. But outside of that, trying to draw a definitive conclusion from anomalies is impossible. So people could be right now saying, we demand audits in these states. In the meantime, we're going to work with the Republicans on voter reform. Instead, they're at a symposium. And now the guy comes out, Mike Lindell's guy, saying the data was not good and he can't prove it anyway. And I'm like, you see, you know, what's really been bothering me is for all I know, you know, look, there's some smoking guns somewhere, right? But ever since the election, I keep getting told next week on Monday,
Starting point is 01:45:45 Trump is going to come out and then nothing happens. I had a bunch of people saying, dude, March 5th, man, you're going to wait and see March 5th. And I'm like, uh-huh, sure. Nothing happens. Then they're like, oh, you know, come July, come August. And I'm just like, dude, it's fine. Do whatever you want to do when there's a smoking gun, when there's hard evidence, whatever.
Starting point is 01:46:05 Do the audits, do all there's a smoking gun, when there's hard evidence, whatever. Do the audits. Do all that stuff. Whatever builds your confidence. But fighting back right now, I think you look at everything they did with changing the voter laws, and people are distracted and they're not fighting back. Yeah, and I think that's very concrete. It's very much black and white for me that they did not follow the constitutionally adopted process for changing the voter laws in these states. The issue to try to talk to people about what the remedy is in the solution is that they don't trust elections to remedy this. The Republican Party has failed them.
Starting point is 01:46:36 They don't trust them at all. In fact, they hate Republicans because they don't stand up for them or they betrayed Donald Trump for their point of view. I mean, they loathe Mike Pence, a lot of these people or or Governor Kemp in Georgia. Those people are villains to them. They feel completely let down by them and they feel like the system is irreparably broken. Pardon me. What I would point out in this situation, it was essentially a red wave election in these district and house districts across the United States. The house is a very key institution to get in this in this current situation that we're in. You have to try to go and get the house. You have to try to make Tea Party look like like a day at the picnic in 2010. And the Democrats are going to be on the defense. I think they all
Starting point is 01:47:21 know this in the House races. You have to go out and try to make it happen. And I think like there is really literally no way just prognosticating into the future. I don't think that there's a way that the Democrats hold on to the House. It just in taking the temperature of the country and just all of the districts around the United States, it's, just looking at a map of red and blue counties, it's just not going to – they're not going to hold on to the House. A year is a long time?
Starting point is 01:47:53 In a fair election, I don't think it will happen. Well, they're going to anger a lot of parents this fall. It's true, but a year is a long time. It's an eternity in elections. It is a long time. It's that last week. It's that last month. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:48:06 I don't think this – I think this is going to be a pressure cooker election. I think the crockpot is on. The steam is building. I don't think it's – they're going to be looking for people to blame for their miserable – for people's miserable lives, which the Democrats are going to keep trying to make us miserable. You can bank on that. And they're going to want to take it out on somebody in the polling booth. If it comes out and all these people turn out en masse and they vote and somehow the Democrats escape losing the House,
Starting point is 01:48:35 there's going to be a real problem. We did not see mass rioting after 2020. We saw the January 6th incident, but we did not see it at January 20th. I mean, what did we see on January 20th when it was predicted that there was going to be a mass uprising? We saw a few sad old people with signs, you know, at state capitol buildings. But you did not see the S-H-T-F yet. So I think people are holding out hope that, that the midterms can give some course corrections, a lot of people. Um, but some people have just left the reservation.
Starting point is 01:49:12 They are not coming back and they are looking to be more and more angry. And anybody that offers them some chimeras to get angry about, they're all for it right now. They're going to sit, they're going to console themselves and they're going to wallow in sort of self-pity to some point when they should be organizing and being active and looking for something substantive to accomplish before the elections, before it's too late. Because the state, ultimately, if you want to look at somebody to be mad about for the 2020 election, look at the state legislatures. These GOP-run state legislatures completely dropped the ball. They failed their constituents.
Starting point is 01:49:50 They did not scream bloody murder when these absentee ballot rules were changed without their authority. They waited until it was way too late to say anything about it. They should have jumped on it from the very beginning. They did not. Now they want to do some kind of, you know, some after-the-fact sort of legislation that doesn't seem to go far enough, as you pointed out, Tim, in some cases. And people aren't paying attention. Hold them to the fire. Yeah, they're not paying attention because they're distracted by these other side things. And, look, I get it.
Starting point is 01:50:21 It's a very passionate subject. And I'm not – look, I understand a lot of people in my audience, they care about the subject. And I'm not trying to talk down to you or anything. You're you're you have a right to be mad. You have a right to feel left out, let down by the system. The election system is broken. Voter integrity is is in bad shape in this country. We need to look ahead for the sake of our kids and our future, not to fight the last war. Fight the war ahead of you. Keep your eye on the prize. Keep your eyes down range and focus
Starting point is 01:50:52 on the concrete things we could do because don't let your kids down. Do something substantive. Vote for the real candidates, not the establishment Republican types. And then when the new wave of populist right come in you can impeach joe biden right for all the ukraine stuff and the
Starting point is 01:51:12 china stuff absolutely launch all the subpoenas and do all the investigations can you stay focused man yeah and and and i you know i'm on i'm on totally on board with that. I mean, Biden, like we saw with the rent eviction moratorium, that is completely – he knows it's unconstitutional. The Supreme Court said it was completely illegal, and he said, I'll do it anyway, I guess. Broke his oath of office right there. If it was Donald Trump, they would be screaming bloody murder in the media. So don't – just have a long memory. File all these things aboard. But in the meantime, make sure the next election has not as much of
Starting point is 01:51:48 a shit show as the last one. All right. The Science Change says, excellent job on Mayo Gate. Seriously impressed with how you're reporting. What can an average Joe do to help America get back on track? Raise your kids. Homeschool your kids.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Stand up for what you believe in. Make hard choices and do hard things. Jordan Peterson says, find the heaviest thing you can carry and carry it. I think that would mean that if you're living in a city where they're introducing things policy-wise that you don't agree with and it's extremely difficult for you to move, that must be the heaviest thing you can carry and you probably should carry it. I think too many people just want comfort, the path of least resistance. Man, I love treading through the storm and the mud. I see that easy path.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Oh, it's a real easy path for me. I don't need to do this job. I could stop right now and I can just skate all day and do whatever. I could shut this show down. Why should I deal with smears from the media? Man, it's brutal out there, huh? Constantly getting people sending me awful things and threats and insults. Man, who would want to trudge through something like that? That's the path of most resistance.
Starting point is 01:52:56 Well, I like carrying heavy things. I like doing the hard work. I could just, I don't know, focus on the vlog. The vlog will make more than enough to just sustain me for the rest of my, I'm not going to worry about anything. Build up that and do a Minecraft channel. No, I like the challenge and that's why I'm here. And that's why I'm grateful to everybody who's supporting that by being members. So I think, you know, at the very least, sharing content, whether it be me or Crowder or Styx or anybody that, 6XNM
Starting point is 01:53:15 or anybody you really like or checking out Kyle's website, Becker News, and sharing the things that you think are important, that's really an important thing to do. And I know most of you do it all the time. So do what you can when you can, I suppose. But I think maybe people need to realize that you have to, you have to carry something heavier than you may be carrying. Yeah. Speak your mind on the internet, make videos because it's humiliating. Let people see who you are for real. Let them know your fears and what you've done. Let go of your secrets and they'll trust you. And then when you, when you tell them these things, they'll believe you.
Starting point is 01:53:45 It's more powerful than voting for people. Agreed. I would say on a more practical level to frequent small businesses and go to family-run operations like that restaurant we talked about earlier. Ben Stark says, have you heard about Tim Dillon and Democrat media calling Yanmi Park a fraud? Thoughts? I think they're all liars.
Starting point is 01:54:02 I don't know about Tim Dillon. I don't watch his show. But when I show you that the Democrat media are lying to protect Biden i think they're all liars i don't know about tim billen i don't watch his show but uh when i when i show you that the democrat media are lying to protect biden because it's failed policies why would i believe them on yonmi park i i saw one of the stories people were like you go to see this tim she's a fraud and then i saw her comment on it and it was like a fairly reasonable assessment you know what you know what the funny thing is man people want to come out and insult her and say all these things about her, and I read
Starting point is 01:54:26 some of the criticisms of her, and I'm like, I think they're just out of context, smearing, falsely framing. Because I'll tell you this, anybody who watches this show, who then goes and reads one of the hit pieces on me, is going to laugh at how insane they sound. They're like, I can listen to this guy talk for four hours a day, and that does not
Starting point is 01:54:42 represent what that show is. They're so desperate. So the mail game thing, they 5.6% inflation across the board. 5.4. 5.4. So they assumed that the mail went up by 5.4%. The mail went up by 100%. Not 5.4%.
Starting point is 01:54:59 But these idiots, these fools. The arrogant. These lazy. So it's false inductive. It's reasoning. Yeah. That's false inductive. It's reasoning. Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Yeah. Yep. And then because they're all a bunch of hooting midwits that they're all like someone says it and they'll go, yeah, and they'll start high-fiving each other and chest bumping. And it's like, guys, you're so dumb. Did you even call the restaurant? I don't like screaming idiot. Like what?
Starting point is 01:55:21 No, no, no. They don't have to. They are supposed to call the restaurant. You call the restaurant. That's true. When I saw the story, I googled the website. I googled the restaurant. I put the phone, called it.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Within a minute, a guy says, hello. And I'm like, hi, my name is Tim Poole. I'm a journalist. I'm trying to get a comment on this story about mayonnaise. And he laughed. He's like, oh, yeah. What do you need? I just see that it says here you pay $200 more per week in mayonnaise.
Starting point is 01:55:44 And I was wondering if you could elaborate on how that is. Oh, yeah. So we do about 10 buckets per week. It's five gallons each. They used to cost about $18. Now they're about $36. So do the math. It's about 10 more buckets.
Starting point is 01:55:55 So it's about $200. And I went, sounds about right to me. What's your restaurant capacity? $250. And he says, and we use the mayonnaise for our dressings and stuff and the sausage. A 100% increase in that cost. makes sense to me dude yeah complete we know that we don't miss i mean that is not even like you barely almost hit it you completely missed it and they double down they completely three different writers and now they're driving a harassment campaign at a small
Starting point is 01:56:19 business who said nothing political these this is it's not journalism that's the problem i went to school for journalism for a period for like a year it you learn about citing sources about seeking multiple sources fact checking looking getting an editor to go through your stuff afterwards did you see and then putting your face behind it that's a big part of it you see what the daily beast wrote where they were like six months on donald trump his staffers are urging him to promote the vaccine, but he says no. And it's like, it says, nope. And it's got a big Trump mouth. And I'm just like, yo, I get so many emails from Trump where he's like, the vaccine is mine. It's the greatest vaccine. Everyone should get it. It's safe. That's right. He's like, there's one email. I went through my email of all the emails from Trump and it's like, Trump's not getting credit for the vaccine. And he's like, they're
Starting point is 01:57:02 trying to claim credit for the work I did. It's safe. Everyone should get it. I'm like, how did they write an article claiming Trump won't promote the vaccine when he won't shut up about it? I know. He talks about Operation Warp Speed as the greatest thing since the attack on Okinawa in World War II. They won't give him credit for it. Yeah. He wants the credit. Give me the credit.
Starting point is 01:57:21 I know. That's Donald Trump's personality. I mean, come on. All right. Let's the credit. I know. That's Donald Trump's personality. I mean, come on. All right. Let's see what we got here. Ramsey Stripling says, some woman tried to come in the restaurant I work at with a regular non-service dog. Didn't allow her in, and she got all of her friends to write reviews calling us racist
Starting point is 01:57:36 and discriminatory. Brought overall review down 4.823. Wow. Can we like, okay, Yelp, you companies, Google, that do these restaurant reviews, can you make it so that they have to have a geolocator go off when they're in the restaurant or something where they got to log in? Like the restaurant has something with your website where they got to log in. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:57:54 To verify that they're eating there. I mean, this is ridiculous that someone down the road can vote. I knew a restaurant. It was a burger joint. And they got a call from Yelp. And they were like, hey, you know, we see you on the site. And we we want to reach out to you see if you want to do any advertising with us and he was like i'm not interested in that okay all of a sudden a bunch of bad reviews started coming in and he you know there's there's some people who allege there's a conspiracy whatever but
Starting point is 01:58:18 what's happening was bad reviews would come in and the good reviews weren't coming in and it was because they said well the people who are in the restaurant having a bad experience pick it up and go. And the people have a good experience, don't say anything. And then later on, they might be like, oh, yeah, you know, I went to that restaurant. That was cool. And then they're like, well, this one is real time. This one's not. The point is, it's not so easy just to just to geofence.
Starting point is 01:58:43 But isn't the problem here that people across the country are downvoting a restaurant? That makes no sense. How do you prove that you've been there and you don't? Put a barcode on the receipt that you've got to scan or something before you leave the restaurant. I agree with that. How about you can only review it if you have a current receipt? Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 01:59:00 I like that. Easy. All right. Kamikaze A says, Australia is tracking population via qr codes we are required to enter our details and phone number to get a verification code to be able to enter any business anyone looking to adopt a few aussies come on over it's uh it's it's man what do you call it when all of these countries are moving in the exact same direction you can't travel between them and uh I don't know.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Global authoritarianism. Yeah. Wow. International fascism. New world order. I don't know. You're all right. New world order.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Smiley face fascism. Richard Cranium says, Tim, I work in long-term care. Bet you can't guess the party that comes in to do absentee voting. I'll give you a hint. The Dems. Yep. Yep. Napalm Boner Fart says, hot take. Parents should send their kids to the military.
Starting point is 01:59:51 Best thing that happened to me. I turned left to right but mostly learned responsibility. Good. I don't think you can do that. Like, your kid turns 18, they leave. I do think there's like military academies and stuff and schools you can go to and uh i'm i am um um service guarantees citizenship is the easiest way to say it i don't i don't know if a military academy or or the military is is the way to do it no it's not the
Starting point is 02:00:17 romans tried that no i mean if you have a wayward kid they're not gonna find themselves in the military they need to want to do it and if they don't want to do it, it's not going to work out so well for them probably. You are correct. My brother really wanted to join the military and my parents didn't want him to. But he did and it was great for him. Whereas with my other brother, he didn't really like it. He got out as
Starting point is 02:00:38 soon as he could. It's like 50-50. It's whatever you make of it. Yeah. Don't go to the military as a way of avoiding work or whatever. Just, like, work for a while and really think about it, and then if you feel like you need to get our orders barked to you
Starting point is 02:00:52 and you need to go serve, you know, just be ready for it and go get it, you know? Yeah. The One-Eyed King says, Tim, should Rittenhouse trust truth as an affirmative defense like you said Lindell should
Starting point is 02:01:02 with the Dominion suit? The Dominion suit is a civil lawsuit where they're alleging he said things that were not the truth and that have caused them financial damages for which they are trying to recover financial damages. In the instance of a defamation suit, there's something called an affirmative defense, meaning I told the truth, case dismissed. And all he need do is go to the judge and say, here you are, your honor, there's the evidence. And the judge will say, case dismissed. That's it. With Kyle Rittenhouse, it's a criminal trial.
Starting point is 02:01:29 And you're going to have an adversarial court where the state tries to prove their case and the defense tries to prove their case. But still, I would say, yes, Kyle Rittenhouse should rely on the truth to win. Granted, you'll need really good lawyers because they're going to use manipulative tactics. But the truth shall set you free. My bigger issue, I suppose, is that politics will play a role and it doesn't matter whether or not he's right or wrong. In the instance of Lindell, it's entirely possible the judge would not rule in favor of Lindell no matter what. But if that's the case, then what are you trying to prove? If no matter what you do, no one will ever accept it because they're scared socially, you've got a culture problem
Starting point is 02:02:06 and all you're doing is preaching to the choir. Well, maybe that's what he's trying to do with the cyber symposium. Just to play devil's advocate here, he's trying to persuade people and use the media to spread his message. And maybe he feels like the courts aren't a fair venue for him. Maybe he personally feels that. I don't represent his legal team, and I don't know all of the thinking and strategy behind it,
Starting point is 02:02:32 but that's definitely historically functional. Getting the crowd behind you is a powerful way to bypass the courts, and the courts will vote for you. Beaumarchais did it in France, got out of a civil lawsuit. Happy says, Do you think there is a place for libertarian-leaning people who are socially liberal in the classical sense? For the most part, I'm pretty
Starting point is 02:02:49 socially liberal. However, I don't like big government. Yeah, I agree. That's like the usual left libertarian position, but I don't know what to tell you, man. Our institutions are all completely corporatist. What do you do? Well, look at BlackRock's infiltration of the Biden government, the economic advisors like Mike Pyle with Kamala Harris, who has also put in neoliberal policies under Obama.
Starting point is 02:03:17 You look at WestExec. Actually, one of these think tanks that was formed that basically sells itself as this sort of White House PR crisis management team. There's like 23 from this one think tank sort of organization in the Biden White House. And then you have a very weak president in this mix who doesn't seem to be running the show, it strikes me as very corporatist and very seedy. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, smash that Like button if you have not already and go to TimCast.com, become a member, so you can check out the Members Podcast,
Starting point is 02:03:57 which should be up around 11 or so p.m. You can follow the show at TimCastIRL. You can follow me personally at TimCast. Is there anything you wanted to shout out, Kyle? No, just follow me on Twitter. I will likely be doing a podcast in the future. If you want to keep an eye out for that, that would be great. But just really enjoyed being here with Tim.
Starting point is 02:04:17 I mean, it was a pleasure. It was great to see his studio. And everything he's got going on here seems to be going in a great direction. What's your Twitter handle? Kyle and a Becker and a Becker. Yeah. Thanks for coming, man. That was great.
Starting point is 02:04:29 That was fun. Thanks a lot again. You guys can follow me also at Ian Crossland dot net or at Ian Crossland on social media and you rock. You guys can follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lids as I continue my adventure trying to get more followers and Sour Patch Kids. We will see all of you over at TimCast.com
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