Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #353 - Australia Publishes Plans For COVID Camps, NYC Goes Full Fascist w/Kurt Schlichter

Episode Date: August 18, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join lawyer, commentator, and author of the Kelly Turnbull series Kurt Schlichter to examine the NYC indoor vaccine passport requirements, how Democrats have flipped on identificat...ion and racism, Australia's new 'alternative quarantine hubs' that sound a lot like internment camps, how Democrats vote against themselves constantly, and 'The Split' (the title of Kurt's most recent book): How the US might potentially break up. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On an Australian government website, they have announced their plans to construct what they refer to as an alternative quarantine hub with relocatable cabins for those who must be removed from civil society due to the risk of COVID. Relocatable cabin sounds an awful lot like a fancy word for camp. That's apparently what they're building. And I've already seen the apologizing happening on Twitter. These people are Nazis. Make no mistake. When they're like, oh, calm down. They're building an internment facility. It's no big deal.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Just get on the train and head out to the camp. Yeah, sorry. They'll always try to come in with something seemingly reasonable. And you have to say there's a line where we don't accept that you will move us in increments until we are pushed off the cliff. If they want to build an internment hub for people who are a risk to people's health or whatever, it's like, dude, you're too dangerously close. Sorry. We have ways to deal with this. It's called people can stay at home or something like that, but that's what's happening now in New York. They have officially started today the vaccine mandates, and it is worse than I thought. You know, I was on Twitter and I was
Starting point is 00:01:05 talking about Google and Facebook requiring vaccines for their employees. And I said, a lot of people are probably going to quit over this. Cameron Kasky of Parkland Notability responded with, and there's about to be a whole lot of, you know, positions opening for people who aren't stupid. And then I mentioned that some people have medical issues barring them from getting the vaccine, or more importantly, some people have not necessarily an underlying medical condition, but a medical circumstance where their doctor will say it's up to you and they'll have to make a hard choice. This will pressure them in certain ways, and maybe they won't want to do it. And then, of course, the response from all of these young people and establishment crony types
Starting point is 00:01:41 and activists said, of course, there will be medical exemptions. Wrong. New York, I called them. I called the city and I asked. They said no medical exemptions. I called two civil rights lawyers and they said, we will not advise on this. Sorry, have a nice day and hung up. It was nuts. It was abrupt. I call lawyers all the time. They're usually more like, oh yeah, you know, in the law it works this way and that way and here's what you can do. I called on this stuff and they're like, no, I can't help you. Have a nice day. Bye. One firm was like, I am getting hundreds of calls about this. We are not going to be advising on it. Have a nice day. One guy was like, we are a, you know, civil rights and we do medical discrimination. We're not going to help you. Bye. I was like, wow, this is crazy. So then I went and I called about, you know, I think 25 or so
Starting point is 00:02:25 restaurants in New York. One of them said, nah, you were not testing. We're not checking. Have a nice day. And I was like, oh, wow. Okay. One of them said that, yes, you are required to show proof. If you have a medical exemption, you'll be fine. All the rest said no excuses. And I said, you know, what if somebody, you know, my friend's doctor says they can't get the vaccine. And they said, yeah, I'm sorry. That's too bad. We can't allow them in. But you can eat outside. You want to eat outside? I said, I'm not going to tell my friend who's got a medical condition they have to eat outside. That's just wrong. And you know what they said to me? We're so sorry. It's just we're following the orders of the mayor. We have to do it. It's not worth it to risk it. Welcome to your brave new 1984 world.
Starting point is 00:03:06 So we're going to talk about all this stuff. We're going to get into greater detail on this. Plus we can talk a bit about Afghanistan, balkanization, maybe even civil war because we are being joined by Kurt Schlichter. I like how you say, we want to talk about civil war. Kurt Schlichter's here, everybody. That's right. Giant national catastrophe of epic proportions. We'll welcome Kurt Schlichter.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Who better to talk about total disaster? You're writing a book? I wrote a book. I got the split out, the six of the Kelly Turnbull ones. I am working on a proposal to talk about a nonfiction, to talk about what's going to happen. And I'm already at work on the seventh Kelly Turnbull novel about America falling apart. Doesn't mean I advocate it. Contrary to what the bulwark says.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Right. These are not in favor. These are against. These are cautionary examples. These are warnings. These are big red flags saying, stop, quit, don't do these dumb things. And then they start saying,
Starting point is 00:04:04 hey, we're going to make sure that about 50% of people in New York can't live their lives because they've disobeyed us. It's worse than that. I mean, I think we can start with that. People have a right to choose. They have a right to go to their doctor. There are people who don't have an illness per se, but may have some circumstance in which their doctor is like,
Starting point is 00:04:25 well, you know, maybe you should, maybe you shouldn't. And then they'll have to make that choice. The government's going to pressure them. And an example, I guess, would be like pregnant women. You know, the CDC has come out and said they can get it. But some doctors, people that I know have still been advised by their doctors to say, well, why don't you hold off? If your doctor advises it, but doesn't prohibit it, you're creating this murky circumstance. But more than that, I mean, you've got the racial disparities, and you've got the fact that there are people who cannot get it and would like to. So they are outright just making second-class citizens of people. We'll get into all that. I don't want to do the show before we do the intros.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So also, Ian is in here. Yeah, I'm looking forward to weaving the split into this. So this is your newest book on Amazon. Yeah, I'm going to pimp it like Huggy Bear putting his bitches out on the street and saying, bring me my money. And this is about, what, the U.S. fracturing? The U.S. is fractured and antics ensue.
Starting point is 00:05:13 What would it look like? How does West Virginia do? West Virginia does fine. Excellent. I haven't sent any of the characters through there yet, but that's actually not a bad idea. That's a great idea. Because these are some people who don't take a lot of guff.
Starting point is 00:05:31 And I'm trying to deprofanitize so they won't be taking guff. Yeah, I was thinking, like, if there was a split, what would happen? Like, Big Hills would become the most popular areas because that's where you'd set up the machine gun mounts. There will be warlords and Wastelands. So the seventh one, which is coagulating inside my brain right now. I'm not saying we're going to have the humongous from Road Warrior, but there may be a humongous. Cool. Right on.
Starting point is 00:06:00 We got Lydia pressing buttons. I am pressing buttons in the corner. Kurt is the perfect person for tonight, because he talks about Civil War, and he is a lawyer, and he knows what's up. I'm excited. I'm woke. I know what time it is. Word.
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Starting point is 00:07:00 in New York because it's hitting us close to home. ABC News reports for businesses, NYC indoor vaccine mandate means safety and headaches. The mandate improves safety, but poses operational and economic challenges. No, it doesn't. So I made a series of phone calls. The first phone call I made today, because for those that aren't familiar, the mayor signed an executive order yesterday issuing the vaccine mandate with no medical exemptions, none. If you have cancer, if you have MS, if you're immunocompromised and your doctor says, I can't advise this, you can't get it, you are excluded from society in New York. So I called the city. I said, that can't be right. I read the law, no exemptions. But if you're a famous musician or performer, you are allowed to go into these venues to perform and do your normal business. If you work for one of these people, you are welcome to come inside these businesses and do
Starting point is 00:07:47 whatever you want. You can hang out, have a drink. All you got to do is play one little song. So I called the city and said, certainly this must be a mistake. I called the local 311 line, which is non-emergency city communications. I did this on purpose. There's no number to call the mayor's office, but of course you might get a political answer. I want to know the advice they're giving to small businesses. I want to know the advice they're giving to residents of the city who call because they specifically say, if you have questions about the vaccine mandate, call this number, press one or press two. A woman answered.
Starting point is 00:08:16 I said, I was just curious about if the vaccine mandates for restaurants have a medical exemption for someone whose doctor won't allow them to get the vaccine. No. So, ma'am, you're saying that, you know, if somebody is told by their doctor they can't get it, they can't go to any of these restaurants or gyms or clubs? Nope. And I was like, there's really no medical exceptions? And she says, there's some, but not for that. I can, let me put you on hold and see if I can, you know, ask someone to clarify.
Starting point is 00:08:44 And they put me on hold. Then she comes back and says, yep, yep, sorry. If your doctor doesn't allow you to get the vaccine, you can't go. Either you have the pass or you don't. So then I called two law firms dealing with human rights law. And boy, were they quick to say, no, we will not advise. Bye. And hung up.
Starting point is 00:08:57 One of them, the first one I called, they said, we do deal with medical discrimination. We are not going to advise on this. We are getting hundreds of calls for people. We will not be dealing with it. Have a nice day. Thank you. And I was like, all right, thanks. Appreciate it. Bye. The next one I called, I said, I was curious. I have some questions about medical exemptions for the vaccine mandate. And if that's written in the law, I'm sorry, we're not going to be advising on any of that as per discrimination. Have a nice day. Bye. Click. Wow. Started calling restaurants. I called like 25 or so. And I would say all but one said, yes, we are checking or we are we are going to begin. And no, people who have medical issues
Starting point is 00:09:33 are not allowed to enter the building. And then the scariest thing was the people who all said, look, we're just following the orders of the mayor. You know, the mayor has deemed this to be what we have to do. and so we have to do it. And it's interesting because one restaurant, I just got fed up. And I said, I have been calling restaurant after restaurant trying to figure out where my friend can come eat. And they'll say the same thing. Isn't this a violation of human rights law in New York City? And then someone else, a guy, picks up the phone and goes, bye, and hangs up on me. That's New York City. That's happening now in this country. Granted, it's very different in Texas and Florida what's going on, but in New York, wow. So I have some questions for those who would still service the city,
Starting point is 00:10:18 for those musicians and entertainers who would still be going into New York to perform, knowing that they are exempt, but they're going to require all of the people who come to see you follow this mandate. Now, first and foremost, I got no issue with vaccines at all. I think you go to your doctor, you figure out what makes sense for you. My problem is they're turning people into second class citizens who have done nothing wrong. My problem is people should have a right to choose what makes sense for their health, not a despotic mayor who won't even carve out medical exemptions. This has gone way too far, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:10:51 And I think it plays into, I don't know, the chaos and the crisis in this country, which is leading to collapse, because you're going to have, you already do, Texas and Florida outright being like, we're not doing this. South Dakota, we're not doing this. But then you look at the Pacific Northwest. You look at New York. You look at San Francisco. They're not doing this. South Dakota, we're not doing this. But then you look at the Pacific Northwest. You look at New York. You look at San Francisco. They're also doing vaccine mandates.
Starting point is 00:11:10 What next? Look, this is bad. But it also shows the magic of federalism. Because you're right. In Texas, you're free. In Florida, you're free. In at least some places in California, you're free, if not officially, then simply because people just aren't playing along. Look, I think that
Starting point is 00:11:32 leftists should get leftism really, really hard. And this is it. Look, if you're in New York and you vote for a Bill de Blasio, this is what you're voting for. So freaking enjoy it. Enjoy it. Party on, Wayne. You did this. You. You did this. Just like if you voted for Joe Biden, you did what's going on in Kabul.
Starting point is 00:12:02 You chose it. You made a conscious decision. I don't want mean tweets. I can't stand those mean tweets. I'm going to vote for whatever pseudo-Marxist twit appears on my ballot. You did it. Enjoy. This is the issue.
Starting point is 00:12:20 The economy, I love bringing this up because it's one of the clearest examples, is how would you rate the economy right now? It's disastrous. But the polling shows that Democrat voters think it's good because these people don't know, don't care, don't pay attention. And maybe they're lying. That's why they vote for de Blasio. That's why they vote for Joe Biden. That's why they're still voting in another Democrat in New York City.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I think you're assuming that this is a reasoned thought process. That is, if I vote for a Democrat, good things are going to happen. No, no, no. Rather than I'm showing a cultural solidarity. That is my point. Okay. How could you possibly think the economy is good right now? Yeah, you know, you've got a lot, but you can't very well say the economy's terrible.
Starting point is 00:13:02 But I'm going to vote against the guy who could bring us a better economy because I don't like his tweets. Cult. Exactly. You know what else I noticed when I was looking? I was looking on a group. An anti-cult almost. No, it's literally a cult. I mean, these people are authoritarians.
Starting point is 00:13:18 They follow dogma. They don't care about – you can have – one day they say do X. The next day they say do Y, and they say yes. And it's like you look at their Twitter histories and you're like, how is this possible? Every other day they're contradicting themselves. But for that to matter, they'd have to believe in something other than what they want right now. It matters to us. It drives us crazy because we, at some level, and this is a weapon they use against us, still embrace rational thought.
Starting point is 00:13:43 We apply facts and evidence and then try and come to a conclusion. I mean, we just naturally do that. But they freed themselves of that, Tim. They are not bound by evidence or facts or your puny laws. They are purely about power. It's about making sure that everyone adheres to the authority.
Starting point is 00:14:04 What we are seeing right now with big business, government, it's fascism. Mussolini's fascism. It is all about power. It is all about, you will obey me, but it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't matter. The sense part, that's a side issue. It's about power. It's about making sure that what we say goes and that you knuckle-dragging Jesus gun people will bend to our will. I noticed something else when I pulled up Google Maps and I was looking at the different areas of
Starting point is 00:14:35 New York and I looked in each borough. I was thinking, let's see how they're – it's all basically the same no matter where they are, no matter whether the person had an accent or North American dialect or whatever. They all basically said the same no matter where they are, no matter whether the person had an accent or North American dialect or whatever. They all basically said the same thing. But I noticed something else. A bunch of the restaurants that I used to go to are closed. A bunch of the restaurants that I used to go to no longer open before dinner. And that to me was something really crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I was like, wait a minute. I used to go there for lunch. They're not open for lunch now. Open until 5 p.m. now? Yeah, I've seen that a lot. The businesses have been crushed. And you know what it was really funny. Many of the phone calls I made, the people I spoke to were so desperate.
Starting point is 00:15:11 You can still sit outside. It's okay. And I said, I'm not going to make my friends up. No, no, no, no. It's fine. Fine. Wait, wait, wait. The outdoor seating is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's comfortable. I was like, I'm not sitting outside. No, no, no, no. Listen, listen, please. I was like, thank you and have a nice day. And probably about five of the phone calls I made, they were that desperate. They've probably, their businesses are probably in shambles. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:28 I've said it over and over again. Get away from these cities. Stop supporting these people. And how many people just don't care? And that's why I'll say it again. To the people who are going to, look, we have friends of the show who are still in New York. Many, dozens. And they're still servicing the city. They're
Starting point is 00:15:45 still paying taxes and they sit there and they go, well, this sucks. And I'm like, why are you still there? At this point, you are actively legitimizing the fascism in this city by being a part of it, by funding it, and by putting your talent into their broken system. Will these people stand in principle? How many people do we know that have been on the show have said something like, we don't agree with the vaccine mandates and we won't stand for it, but I will absolutely run my business in New York City and stay there and allow them to keep doing this, legitimizing it. I mean, you could say the same thing about being an American citizen, that just by being American, we're legitimizing the fascist, militant, industrial complex. But part of being in the
Starting point is 00:16:23 United States and following this law law this rule of law is that we can change the government by as we're there so being in new york you can change new york's government no let's let's talk about the people who don't live there but go there for shows to make money it's not performers yes people people oh yeah marilyn monroe would refuse to perform at racist uh places in like the 60s unless they would let the black performers come in the front door sounds quite reasonable right so we need more performers like that right now yeah i mean i i believe eric clapton's doing that in england he just he just won't play if you're going to force people to vaccinate right and again i i love whenever whenever i point out
Starting point is 00:17:01 the vaccine issue you should i am against mandating vaccines. You anti-vaxxer. Well, I'm not very good at it because I had the stupid thing. I wish I could un-have it just to tell these people to go to hell. But you went to a doctor. I consulted with my doctor. I looked at all the facts in my situation, my life, the people around me, and I made my own decision. As it should be. i should be and i
Starting point is 00:17:26 don't i don't care if you have a vaccine i don't care if you don't do or don't you know better than i do and that's that is the essence of leftism i know better than you do obey but here's the important point outside of all that the requirement is actually an ID requirement. You are now required to have a physical ID to enter any indoor establishment except for residencies and schools pre-K through 12. How about a polling place? You know, I don't think we're there yet to where they can say it, but I'll tell you this. Some polling places are in residential buildings. So, yeah, they may have to issue guidance on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Or some – I don't know if they're going to do them in schools. I remember when I was in New York during – I think it was a mayoral election years and years ago. One of the polling places was like a residency. It was a big apartment building. And then in the lobby they had it or something like that. I don't know. I think that's what it was. But residencies are exempted.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Oh, well, I – They don't need your ID for that. Well, look, I was informed by all the smart people who are my moral betters that it was the most racist thing in the history of racism to demand an ID before someone voted because, of course, voting is the most important thing there is except when it comes to securing it so i gotta say i'm confused my friends please if there is any clip from this show that you've ever taken or made take this one and when we put up on youtube take share it with everybody okay um It was not even that long ago. We were told consistently. I mean, the election was not even a year ago. Voter ID is racist.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yes. Now we know for a fact the black community is the least vaccinated demographic in New York. And they are saying yes to mandating IDs for these people. This, let me explain to you, to everybody, why I'm saying this is the clip you want to share. Please explain to me how voter ID is racist, but mandating an ID to enter an establishment is not racist. All in the span of only a few months, they changed their argument.
Starting point is 00:19:37 What are they going to say? Well, voting's more important. Eating isn't. Sorry, you don't get to go to a supermarket. Eating's not important. But there won't be an argument. There'll just be be a command and as you found out with your phone calls people many many people will just simply all of them and it you know if half the people just said yeah de blasio can't arrest all of us you come in i'm gonna i'm gonna feed. I don't care. You do what you think is right, and then you come on in.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Well, some people did point out fairly that by making the phone calls, they're almost always going to say yes because you could be from the city. Well, that is true. Fair. However, I disagree with that argument in the sense that anybody walking in could be from the city. That is also true. And there will be. argument in the sense that anybody walking in could be from the city that is also true and and and there will be and and i would argue that the phone calls actually better because they could always argue oh no we always mandated you know we could say whatever we want over the phone but
Starting point is 00:20:33 that's not actually part of the violation it's whether you come in or not yeah and so i would actually argue than the phone you're more likely to get the truth if somebody walks in they're going to be like i'm not i don't know i don't know who you are, I don't care You could be from the city If someone calls, they're like Who cares, what are you going to do I'm not going to get a fine for telling you yes or no But they just take it
Starting point is 00:20:54 And they're going to go vote for another Democrat Yeah Welcome to your own hell These are people who just said Look, we're just following orders. We're just following the mayor's orders. We're just following the mayor's orders. If someone goes in and they're not vaccinated
Starting point is 00:21:10 and they go into a restaurant and they get found out that they were like... You can't even go in. Well, if they make it in with a fake passport or something. They said it's fraud. So they'll go to jail where they could infect other prisoners with COVID? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:22 They've released all those prisoners. Now, if you hit an Asian elderly woman on the head with a hammer you will be released on your own recognizance that happened that happens a lot that's a problem but if you go into a restaurant and pretend to be vaccinated when you aren't even though you don't have COVID and you're not spreading disease, you will be prosecuted, as I understand it, because that's justice of some sort in some way. And I have to say, I'm a little confused. I'm not confused. It's all a lie. It's all a scam. It's all a garbage establishment that has failed in everything it's done for the last 30 years. Every single thing. I mean, you look at it.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And I've said it before, said it again. I'll say it again. You look at the establishment and the people who ran the institutions in the 40s. They won World War II. They beat the Depression. 60s, they put a man on the moon. They did civil rights. They changed our country in an important way.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Those are huge achievements. In the 80s, we brought the economy roaring back. We destroyed the evil empire. And then look at this establishment. Look at the people we have now. They've given us Wall Street. They've given us Kabul. They've given us Grindr.
Starting point is 00:22:40 They're so rich, too. And they're, oh, my. They make so much money relative to these people that are suffering yes like i'm not and and these people keep voting for i'm not a crazy marxist where it's like the rich the we must the class war like there is a class there's a problem it's all about class why do you think bush and obama and clinton are all palling around with each other you know you see the footage when they're together and they're all hugging and kissing. I thought they hated each other.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I was informed that some are against us and some are for us, but no, they're all for each other. I hate this Marxist analysis crap where class is important, but dude, class is important and they stick together. That's why you see Republicans voting for this idiotic uh uh alleged infrastructure thing that's why you see the uniparty in washington working together because they all sit together at the same clubs and there was even some mainstream media outlets saying that joe biden should have stayed in afghanistan that he should not have withdrawn that uh he made a
Starting point is 00:23:43 terrible mistake because he should have taken the other options of remaining. They want the war. They want military intervention. They want conflict. It's Republicans and Democrats. They were the architects of the whole thing for the past 20 years. And what happened is in 2016, two insurgent candidates emerged, Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. Bernie is too weak to get the door open.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Donald Trump was a bull charging through the door and he got into the Republican Party, but he is not a Republican. And boy, were they pissed. Oh, they were furious. They were furious. They can't afford to allow their weaknesses to be exposed and he exposed them. And he was one of them look trump wanted to be an elite guy he liked to party with those guys he he would give uh uh interviews to maggie haberman right he still gives interviews to bob woodward look i write for town hall we've been very nice to donald trump and and very you know we point out a lot of good things he's done he doesn't sit down with us i'm wondering when we're going to see see Trump and Biden shaking hands and high-fiving.
Starting point is 00:24:49 I don't think he's quite there because he's the designated Emanuel Goldstein. I don't think that'll happen. He's a class enemy. Yeah, I think. But though he is part of that class, he's prodigal. Bush, who, remember Chimpy, McKittler, Halliburton, horrible, worst guy in the world, went out, you know, he's giggling
Starting point is 00:25:09 with, what's her name? Ellen. Yeah. He paints pictures now. Sharing candies. I'm going to paint another picture of one of the veterans I made. Look, the strategy in Afghanistan has got to be get out.
Starting point is 00:25:29 That doesn't justify tactics that lead to this abortion that we've been watching over the last two days. It didn't have to be this way. So you're a retired colonel. Retired colonel. I did not serve in Afghanistan. I'm just a war college graduate, a party war college, the Army War College. So I'm looking at it as an outside observer. So I'm not going to come, well, you know, when I was sitting in Shuras with Pashtun Warriors, that wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Okay, but from a distance. We'll get into that in a second. I want to focus on the people who voted for this, who believed that, you know, I'll put it this way. Joe Biden saying, I inherited this deal from Trump. Wasn't Joe Biden running for president when Trump was making the deal and he knew what he was voting to be in charge of? They both share the strategy, which was get out of Afghanistan, a strategy I share. This simple that I did. I did a thread on Twitter about this. There's three ways you end a war. You win it, you lose it, or you negotiate it out. We aren't going to win it. We've decided that as a people.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Because to win it requires you essentially have to do what the British did to the Boers in the Boer War, which is take everyone from the countryside, stick them in Australian fun camps. Alternative quarantine. Alternative quarantine things Where you keep them And then everybody outside Who's not in a camp, you kill So you mix the Boer War With the classic Roman Technique
Starting point is 00:26:54 You put everybody in a camp and then kill everybody else We're not willing to do that Good Great I don't think I don't have a problem with a punitive expedition. That was another thing the Romans would do. The Germans would come across the Rhine, pillage in Gaul for a while, go back,
Starting point is 00:27:12 and then a couple legions would go out, pillage in Germany for a while, and then the Germans would be cool for 20 years. Punitive expedition. You let them launch from 9-11 from your country, we're going to go in and we're going to lay some waste to it, we're going to kill those guys, we're going to give you a pain in from uh your country we're gonna go in and we're gonna lay some waste to it we're gonna kill those guys we're gonna give you a pain in the ass then we're gonna leave and that's fine instead somewhere along the way they decide you know what let's turn these mountain tribesmen into a bunch of vermonters and they'll have their little city councils
Starting point is 00:27:39 and they'll have nice clean uh elections and they'll have little commons in the middle of their villages and everything will be groovy. They didn't want that. Yeah. And they weren't going to do that. And that's why probably the Taliban's numbers began to swell substantially the past decade from estimates of like 20,000 to 200,000.
Starting point is 00:28:00 I mean, we were the outsiders and we were changing their culture. We went over there and said, you know what's important? Validating the trans experience. There is this viral. They're not into that. I mean, they're into the boy raping, but not the trans.
Starting point is 00:28:13 There's a viral photo showing the global, the UN global agenda. What is it, the 2030 or whatever? And it's got all of it's got the wheel with all the colors and it's like gender equality and all these things. And there's a photo of a Taliban guy holding a gun and pointing at a bunch of civilians this idea how how how absolutely psychotic are these people at the un to be like you can go in make demands of a culture without changing the culture what the were they thinking to just go into this country and be like these people hate us they don't know us they don't like us they don't share our ways but we can just put up this billboard and tell them that's how you're living from now on and they'll accept they're like enacting ancient military strategy
Starting point is 00:28:51 like how you remember the um the in the revolutionary war the british would walk in lines they would like old school they'd line up and they'd all walk forward together and the americans were hiding behind trees and they would just mow them down world war one they would walk in lines towards the machine gun turds. You have to evolve your strategy. Now with social media and Internet, you can't just put up a billboard and expect the dumb, ignorant surroundings to change. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:29:15 The West is exhausted morally. It no longer believes in itself. It's no longer assertive and strong. 150 years ago, the Brits were all, you know, the Europeans were all, woohoo, we're going to colonize because we're the best. Now they're all elderly. They're exhausted. They're watching their, you know, they're watching Finland's EDM group sing on Eurovision, okay,
Starting point is 00:29:40 you know, as they anesthetize themselves with their terrible music and crappy food and basically wait childless to die. The Taliban, on the other hand, believe in something. What they believe in is terrible and evil. All right. They're bad people. Yeah. But they believe in something. The power of belief, the power of commitment will eventually overtake, you know, the kind of empty ideology of people who hire a few warriors to go out and fight. And look, our volunteer army was a great army.
Starting point is 00:30:15 We fought tactically on the ground, man to man, magnificently. Our guys are very brave and should be proud that they serve their country. That being said, they were put in the service of a mission that was ridiculous and certainly not for their own interests. What we're seeing with Afghanistan, in my opinion, is, look, whether you liked it or not, America engaged in foreign excursions, military bases all over the world, and now we have this major failure happening in Afghanistan. Just another grain of sand in the heap of US
Starting point is 00:30:49 power influence faltering. Yes. So we'll do a hard segue because I do want to talk about the US and there was a poll we talked about where the different regions want to break apart. You obviously have that book and we can talk all about that. But I want to give a contextual warning first by talking about Australia. Just to say, we may be, I don't know how far away we are
Starting point is 00:31:12 from where Australia is now in terms of these alternative quarantine hubs. But if you don't look at what's happening in a country like Australia, which is considered to be a liberal democracy, that doesn't mean they're liberals. It just means it's like you have you're supposed to have individual liberties and personal freedoms. Yeah, you don't in that country anymore. Let me show you the story and then we'll bring it back to the U.S. and what we're seeing here. But this is important. We have this from vic.gov.au. I did not believe it was real when I saw it on Twitter. Victorian quarantine hub, protecting the community from COVID-19 with a purpose-built quarantine facility.
Starting point is 00:31:56 And they talk about their relocatable cabins, which is a fancy way of saying camp, I guess. When I saw this posted on Twitter, I said, someone's hoaxing us. They would not. This is insane. So I went, I saw on this piece of paper that people are posting. It's like an image like, Hey, just want to let you know, we're building this quarantine facility and there's a, there's a URL on it. So I pulled up Google and I typed in vic.gov and then Google auto filled the rest, giving me the suggestion of this website, the Victorian quarantine hub. And so I clicked it and sure enough, here we are. Community information session.
Starting point is 00:32:26 They have a PDF which explains everything. You know, when will the hub be built? Oh, they're building it soon. 3,000 beds, they say. The new hub will also be designed with relocatable cabins so that it can be utilized for an alternative and future needs, including ongoing quarantine arrangements, crisis accommodation, and other emergencies.
Starting point is 00:32:46 In Australia, concentration camp come to you. That's right. It's relocatable, so they can move it around to wherever they need to incarcerate. I guess if the idea is a camp, like you're not going to be given an actual living structure, like a structure to live in, then- Like tiny homes. Relocatable cabin. There you go.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Relocatable cabin. You know, there was a time when Australia was known as a free country. What happened? Well, they gave up their guns for one thing. What year? Well, hold on. Not too many ago. There was a time when it was a penal colony.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And ironically seemed probably more free then. Yeah. I think it's baffling to me. I don't think it would fly in the United States outside of certain blue areas. I think it's baffling to me. I don't think it would fly in the United States outside of certain blue areas. I think you'd be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised if it flew in New York. New York. I would be surprised if they put up with it in, say, Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I wouldn't. Look, I have to be optimistic. I don't think there's any other choice. Otherwise, you know, then I find a bridge and jump off it. But I think for a long time we've had people, woke people. Apparently they're woke because they've been saying, you know, they're building FEMA camps. And we're like, hey, you're crazy. Look at Australia now. See? See? And it're like, hey, you're crazy. Look at Australia now.
Starting point is 00:34:05 See? See? And it's like, well, you know. No, no, no. It's frogs in a pot. Let me pull this picture. Good point. Look how amazing this looks.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Oh, wow. All right. They say design accommodation buildings into clusters of 10 to 16 units housing around 50 to 60 guests to create a higher level of privacy and outlook. Accommodation buildings are to be single-story and maintain a low profile on the site. Give each quarantine block its own identity. Using color to assist with wayfinding. And I think probably if you're someone who lives there, you should wear the color maybe on your chest so that people know which block you're from.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Maybe it's a triangle? Maybe. You know, we could do shapes and colors. Shapes and colors. Triangles, stars, diamonds. Something that evokes your identity in some way. Yeah, then they see you, they know which block you're supposed to be in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:51 And then we have this right here. They say the proposed alternative... It's one of those... The proposed alternative quarantine accommodation will be constructed in multiple stages, supported by a decision gateway for government at the delivery of every 1,000 places. Figure 27 below shows an indicative master plan for the first 1,000 places. Well, the master plan, that doesn't sound at all scary. Yeah, it sounds great.
Starting point is 00:35:15 You know, here's what I'm waiting for, liberal Twitter activist George Takai to weigh in on how this is a great idea. Yes. You know, it's because irony has completely died. You know what I find really funny is that I can tweet something about, oh, how about this? When Google and Facebook said
Starting point is 00:35:31 we're mandating vaccines for employment, I tweeted, they're going to have a bunch of job openings. I said, I wonder how many people will quit. All of a sudden, I get establishment Democrat Twitter screaming and waving their arms violently in the air, saying like, oh, who cares? What's
Starting point is 00:35:45 the problem? Cameron Caskey of Parkland fame tweets at me like, well, then they're about to have a bunch of job openings for people who aren't stupid. And I said, I'm talking about medical exemption in these issues. Now, when I actually call the New York City government, they all said to me, you're so dumb. Obviously, there are medical exemptions to these mandates. I call New York and they say no. I call the restaurants. They say no, none. Sorry, bye. And now where are all those people on Twitter?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Not tweeting at me. I'll tell you this. I DMed Cameron Kasky just to be like, hey, man, just wanted to send this your way, let you know, because I tweeted at him. Hey, we interacted on this before. Wondering what you think. Doesn't care because these people don't care. They are marching us blindly towards fascism. And I mean it in the literal sense.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Mussolini's fascism with a lucrative merger between corporation and state. We are watching it happen in Australia. You think this is a joke? They are building what they call relocatable cabins for people for other emergencies as part of their master plan for the first thousand. What is that going to look like? And let me tell you, there was this, one of the athletes in the Olympics
Starting point is 00:36:47 said that, was it the Olympics? I can't remember. There was an athlete who said they got quarantined and it was hell. They were in solitary confinement with no fresh air
Starting point is 00:36:57 and garbage food. Have you seen the videos of people of the food they were given when they were in like a hotel quarantine? There was one guy up in Canada. It was like two pieces of white bread with a slice of American cheese in the middle of it. That's the food they give you at the hotel when you can't leave for two weeks and the windows
Starting point is 00:37:12 don't open. That is worse than many prisons that at least give you outdoor time. This, this one woman said you have to protest and threaten. They threatened her. We'll keep you locked up longer. And she was like, we need air. And then she said it was like the scariest moment of her life. She went outside and it was like the greatest moment of her life to get that fresh air. That's what they're doing to regular people simply for travel. If you think that they're not going to do something worse to you for defying the government, when the Australian military is already patrolling the streets, 800 ADF troops in Sydney, about 1400 police officers, mounted officers and dog patrols. And they announced 5 p.m. curfew now in New Zealand, which is Australia's Canada, one
Starting point is 00:37:53 covid case. And they locked the entire country down. You think I am exaggerating? Even CNN recognizes the absurdity by putting an ellipsis in the title. New Zealand announces it's locking down the entire country dot dot dot over one covid case they love this it is not about in new zealand you're not going to convince me it's about covid no it's not a case and they shut the entire country down centralized authority building camps for people i'll tell you this man it's happening right now in front of everyone's face and what worries me is the apathy.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Because you mentioned people in Oklahoma would probably resist. Here's what I think. I think there will be select individuals who are going to be like, stay away from my house. And then there's going to be the majority of people being like, what am I supposed to do about it? Look, every movement starts with a cadre. There could be an incident, a spark, something that sets it off. We don't know where this is going to go. We have this unique situation where we have a scenario that we've never had before.
Starting point is 00:38:57 We have our least competent and worst ruling class ever. And we have angry, angry people, angry on many levels and not for all the same things. I mean, there are a lot of angry leftists out there, too. Right. But there are a lot of angry conservatives. And you've talked to them, too. And you know the depth of their anger. And at some point, somebody and I, I don't want it to happen, but it may happen. And that's what I wrote about. At some point, somebody is going to make the calculation. I can't want it to happen, but it may happen, and that's what I wrote about. At some point, somebody's going to make the calculation, I can't tolerate this anymore, and I don't care what they do to me. And then it gets ugly very, very fast.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Because all these institutions are a giant Jenga tower, and you pull out a couple blocks, and that thing comes tumbling down because they're that incompetent. Do you see the DHS announcement on potential terror in the coming month? Yes. People who celebrate religious holidays, potential terror threat. Vaccine resistors. People who challenge government mandates, potential terror threat. Exactly. People who question elections. Oh, Stacey Abrams? Is she now a threat?
Starting point is 00:40:09 I thought she was, you know, I thought she was only a threat to the Golden Corral steam table. I'll tell you what I think will happen here. I said this many times. My prediction would be, I'm not saying I can see the future. I'm saying if I had to make
Starting point is 00:40:22 an educated guess, you'll find a small town in Oklahoma and some young men, fighting age, I suppose, and maybe some middle-aged guys just put up a sign at the front of the road that enters their town. And they get two guys to stand there on watch into and out of the town. And they just say, stand watch and check people who are coming in and out because we don't want any of that mandate stuff coming in our town. And so then a truck will pull up and they'll be like, how's it going, sir? And they'll be like, yeah, I'm just bringing in some wheat. And they'll be like, right away, no problem. And they'll let them in.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And then some law enforcement will come by and they'll be like, you can turn it right around. Where does that lead to? I don't know. But we've already seen some things like that where some towns actually closed exit ramps to their city. When we were driving through, I think it was New Mexico, there was a small town, very small, like 1,000 people, and they blocked the exit ramp into their city because of COVID. Now, those are people, right, so it's a blue area. Those are people who are scared of COVID doing it.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Well, what do you think you're going to get from the more liberty-minded, conservative, or libertarian types in small towns in middle America. I think there's a tremendous amount of anger out there because people understand that they've been lied to, they've been cheated, and that they are in the process of being disenfranchised. And that is a recipe for disaster. And once the disaster starts, there's no stopping it. So here we are now. We are in the era of mandated vaccines in four different cities, notably New York, New Orleans, San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm not sure what the last city was, but it may be three. I know that there were three announced. I know San Francisco and New York, and they're mandating this. No medical exemptions in New York York as I've noted several times and now we're at the point where they're saying you need after eight months a booster shot which is I'm gonna get right on that well well here's here's here's the first thing I always say obviously like for you when you got vaccinated you went to a doctor and it was a doctor you trusted and would you call him a conservative doctor uh yes I think that's between you and him I got nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Exactly. I will say people got these vaccine cards. Did any of you all ask why there were four lines on it? And you only needed two. And that says other and other. Yeah, because they were always expecting there to be boosters. And to be honest, they even said this. They said we may require more in the future.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It may become a seasonal thing. So here's the point I want to make real quick. We already had one libertarian, I suppose, on Twitter say, if I had a choice between a facility with a mask mandate and a facility with a vaccine passport, I'd choose the vaccine passport because I'm already vaccinated. I like the choice. I like how he creates the choice where I can have this or I can have this abuse of my liberty or that abuse of my liberty. I'd rather take, you know, if I had to choose between gonorrhea and syphilis i'd probably go with gonorrhea
Starting point is 00:43:08 and he says that's the ultimate libert modern libertarian uh conundrum reason.com but he goes on to say i'm opposed to all of the restrictions but i would just choose that one and that's exactly the point yes they say at first look just just get it and my response is like if your doctor wants it thinks you should you keep your medical decisions between you and a medical professional not internet people or politicians yeah and then what happens is because these people have all just gotten it when then when when it comes out that they're going to be mandating for all these businesses they say i don't care i already got the vaccine right yeah now what happens now you need a booster and they say well i've already got the card and I've already done this much.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I might as well just go and get the booster. What's the problem is it's incrementalization into authoritarianism. I got no problem with the vaccines. I got no problem to even extent with like going to the countries requiring. I went to Venezuela. I had to have a vaccine card. I do have the doctor get it filled out. He signed it.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I went to Venezuela. They said, show us proof. You've got yellow fever and other things. And I'm like, here you go. The problem is that in these cities, they're barring people in violation of their rights. And I don't know. What scares me is I don't see it as sustainable. So I guess I should say this.
Starting point is 00:44:17 When you mentioned before that you think some people in Oklahoma will not stand for this kind of stuff, I actually should say people everywhere won't, even in New York City. I hope not. But I just, I'm not saying like, I actually think a decent amount of people everywhere will start becoming fed up with this. If you look at New York, you can see that less than, it's about 56% of the people are vaccinated, which means right now about half of New York City cannot use these services, public accommodations. How long will that last until the system breaks? I think it is unsustainable.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And remember, it's not just that. It is a conglomeration of things. It is your children being taught that because of their race, they are either good or bad or indifferent it is uh it is uh america humiliated overseas in afghanistan it is four dollar 59 cent gas which i've been paying in la wow it is uh you know it is people say well you know maybe you don't need cheeseburgers because you know the weather in a hundred years it is all these things where they suddenly you know the the elite suddenly got a chance to kind of foist its its stuff on us and in seven months it's been a freaking disaster as we predicted and i i think people are just getting fed up now the thing that makes, one of the things that gives me hope, I was alive when Saigon
Starting point is 00:45:45 fell. I was 10 years old. I remember it. I was very engaged as a kid in news and current events. I remember distinctly, and I remember feeling much like I'm feeling now, except now I didn't have friends who, you know, got shot in Afghanistan and are now wondering why they went and got shot. But five years after Afghanistan or after Saigon fell, America elected Ronald Reagan. And it started, you know, it gave us, you know, 11 years later, America was at its height of its power. And I was physically there at the place America was at its greatest power. I was at 7th Corps main command post during Desert Storm, during the land war. The greatest military force ever assembled, the most decisive defeat of an enemy in all of military history, arguably, was the Allied attack in, ground attack in Desert Storm. And I was at 7th Corps
Starting point is 00:46:43 main command post. I heard radio calls I later read about in books. And I was a 7 Corps main command post. I heard radio calls. I later read about in books. So I was physically standing there at America's greatest pinnacle of power, the undisputed power in the world. And it's been all downhill for 30 years from there. But it doesn't mean we can't go back.
Starting point is 00:47:02 And the Romans had this too. You know, they, you know, Hannannibal you know romans are doing great hannibal shows up they lose uh uh three battles uh in a row uh can i being the third of them where a hundred thousand romans are dead uh including most of their senators which sounds to me like a good start but But that's a joke. That's a joke. Talking about ancient Rome. That's a joke. Ancient Rome. But, you know, and then Rome ground its way back and became even more powerful after.
Starting point is 00:47:37 So, you know, a society can hit low points. We can hit the depths of our biorhythm and still go back up. I'm optimistic, Tim. I'm always optimistic. Because, you know, there's something about Americans. There's something about our Constitution. And these are unique and they are special. And I just feel in my heart, and maybe I'm crazy and stupid, and maybe I'm idealistic. God help me. I thought that was surgically removed from me in law school. But I think we come back from this.
Starting point is 00:48:10 But it's important that we understand how far down we are. It's like the alcoholic has to take inventory when he hits bottom. But during, would you say that during the Vietnam era, the country was at this level of authoritarianism? No. Fracturing? Maybe. Political tribalism uh somewhat remember there was a full scale terrorist low intensity yeah low intensity uh uh conflict thousands of bombings in the early 70s thousands in the early 70s i mean they weren't killing people left and right but they were kind
Starting point is 00:48:40 of killing people left it was mostly shock and awe wasn't't it? A lot of it was message bombings. But there were cops being shot down in the street. The Capitol was blown up. They tried to blow up a number of targets. Managed to blow up themselves, which, you know, that's a win-win. Unfortunately, after that, a lot of them were absorbed into academia. And then raised some kids who went on to become DAs in San Francisco. Yes, Chesa Bodine.
Starting point is 00:49:12 What we need, here's what I'm afraid of and here's what we need. We need not Ronald Reagan, but a Reagan-like figure who is willing to come in and push his agenda towards the kind of civil liberties that we're talking about. Not exactly like Ronald Reagan, not the same policies, but a communicator who is forthright and focused. I am worried that what we're going to get is a real authoritarian, because people are going to say, I can't take this chaos. That's right.
Starting point is 00:49:42 I can't take this chaos. And there are three options. A free society where everyone has rights. A society where our authoritarian rules. A society where their authoritarian rules. I want number one. I can live with number two. Number three, it's war.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Was Abraham Lincoln authoritarian? Yes. That's right. He was. Yes, he was. And he was one of my heroes he he his portrait was on my family's wall at my grandmother's house uh in chambersburg pennsylvania burned twice by the confederacy right down the road from gettysburg which is one of the first places i was taken as a kid
Starting point is 00:50:15 so yes a guy can be authoritarian and not necessarily authoritarian in context and in a limited way with an idea of coming back from it. James Buchanan, right? He was the one who led us into the Civil War, basically. Yeah, he was the Biden of his era. Exactly. Well, that's what I was going to say. Is Biden Buchanan?
Starting point is 00:50:37 J.B.J.B. J.B.J.B. Oh, no. Except I'm not sure Buchanan was Grandpa Badfinger, but let's leave his purse. But can we get like a numerologist now to like do the numbers and be like the correlation between the two? Well, let me let me let me text my phrenologist. There you go. See what he's.
Starting point is 00:50:56 So so a lot of people were wondering if this period of Biden would be so bad that you will get a major blowout election in 2022 and 2024. I think you will. I mean, I'd like to say that, but I think I've thought that in the past. In 2018, I was like, wow. I was like, how crazy the Democrats have gotten and how inconsistent and broken. And then we get the squad. You actually get more absurd. Look, the Democrat Party has been pulled to the left the uh republican party has been pulled uh to the patriotic uh because for a long time the
Starting point is 00:51:34 republican party was you know an establishment party it was the party of the guy who pulled up and uh uh you know stepped out of his limousine and fired all you guys who worked at the carrier air conditioning plant and said, hey, your job's going to Oaxaca. Don't worry. We'll teach you to code or something. And he looks exactly like Mitt Romney, by the way. And look, the Republican Party ignored normal people, the guys who built this country, fed it, fueled it, fought for it.
Starting point is 00:52:03 They ignored them in in in favor of this giant corporate nightmare i look you you you gotta understand i was a normal republican i i subscribed to the weekly standard before it became you know uh legally anti-drunk before it became a jeffobin Zoom inspiration material. And I only changed because of YC. I was not a supporter of Trump when he was running. Before he won the primary. After he won the primary, I was a reluctant supporter.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I became an active supporter when he proved himself. I supported going into Iraq. I supported going into Afghanistan. I thought these were good ideas. I actually participated in a successful nation-building operation in Kosovo. Very different situation, though. I changed my mind because the facts changed. And I love what these guys on Twitter are like. You know, 10 years ago, you had different ideas.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yes. Yes. When things changed and I re-evaluated under new facts, yes, I changed my mind. You have correctly assessed what I have done. Good point. Aces. You are correct. And I don't delete the old stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Oh, yeah. Several years ago, I didn't own any guns. Now I own many. Oh. Now I got a bear at M82. Nice. I think that's really funny. Holy crap. What, you got bears around here? Bears. Yeah, we do. many. Oh. Now I got a bear at M82. Nice. I think that's really funny. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:53:26 What, you got bears around here? Bears. Yeah, we do, yeah. Actually. That's not for bears. I mean, it could have... Well, bears, daddies, you know, otters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:36 So, but... No, it's just... You have a... I remember I was talking to someone who posted on Facebook some meme like, there's no reason to own any weapon. They said, no self-respecting hunter, whatever, use an assault weapon. And so then I responded with like showing like a polymer tip 450 Bushmaster versus like a 9mm, which is used in combat, or like a 5.56. And then I'm like, which one do you think the hunter uses?
Starting point is 00:54:02 They use the stopping power for large animals. And I was like, your argument makes no sense. But the interesting thing was they came back with like, oh, the right wing gun nuts. No one's taking your guns. Here's a list of my guns that have been banned already. And like, and then he responded with, what do you need any of those for? And so I actually said, I'm going to engage this guy in good faith. And I had a list.
Starting point is 00:54:22 I said, okay. And then I explained the purpose of every gun, like barrel length, caliber, like hunting, a small game. Like I got a break action 410. It's like a turkey shot. You know what I mean? Because we have wild turkeys sometimes. We don't use it here.
Starting point is 00:54:35 But when you go to West Virginia, you got to get rid of some of the turkeys because there are pests if there's too many. Then you get something more powerful if there's wild boars infesting an area. Deer can become a very big problem. Yep. And then you have home defense. You've got different options there. Then you're getting something more powerful if there's wild boars infesting an area. Deer can become a very big problem. Yep. And then you have home defense. You've got different options there.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And then I was like, we'll put the M82 at the bottom. We'll come back to that one later. And then my response to that one was, because I have a right to own it, and it's none of your business. Yeah. Because outside of anything else, I can easily explain the function of these things. This one, it's just, it's mine. Yeah, I want it, which is another grounds for not taking the vaccine why don't you want the vaccine because i don't done argument over that they see people don't understand about rights tim they think that
Starting point is 00:55:17 rights are just uh like a brand of like special privilege but if you you know a privilege you know if you have a really good reason, though, the right has to give way. And as I said before, a lot of these people have the whole rights responsibility thing, like what is his name, Uncle Ben in Spider-Man. With great power comes great responsibility. No, no.
Starting point is 00:55:38 The idea of rights is no responsibility. Rights are a given. Otherwise, they're not rights. They're just privileges, and we've seen what you would do with privileges. The Founding Fathers said that we have, you know, it's self-evident. We have inalienable rights that were
Starting point is 00:55:53 granted to us by our Creator. Yes. We can do them even if you think it's a bad idea. And they'll try and stop you. Yes. And even with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they still infringe upon all of them, even though the Founding Fathers outlined that these shall not be infringed, but here we are. And one of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, they still infringe upon all of them, even though the founding fathers outlined that these shall not be infringed. But here we are. And one of the biggest disasters of our institutions is the Supreme Court failing to aggressively police attacks on our rights.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Every time they pass on a, you know, you can't sing in church. They have no power. The Supreme Court is meaningless the supreme court would have had some moral authority if it stood up for the things it should then people would listen now people are like well you know kavanaugh is just going to roll over because he's got to go to the country club yep a guy i don't understand because if they did that to me holy crap it would be a jihad so they would be my project i think it was will chamberlain who told us that the reason the supreme court doesn't get aggressive on some of these cases
Starting point is 00:56:51 is because they have no enforcement ability and if they push hard on something it will reveal the emperor has no clothes which it has when the supreme court ruled that the eviction moratoriums were illegal completely in every sense yep and the CDC has no authority to do it. Then Biden said, they're just going to do it anyway. Whatever. Screw the Supreme Court. That's my issue with rights being inalienable. I mean, the way it's written is they can't be taken away.
Starting point is 00:57:16 They're there. But the reality, that's kind of the myth we tell ourselves. The reality is if someone with a lot of weapons wants to just say this is a new world with new sets of rights and laws and ideas, then that is what it is. Well, simply because rights can be violated doesn't make them not rights. It makes somebody a violator of rights and you
Starting point is 00:57:35 have a moral obligation to resist. No, no. Look, people are going to want to take what's yours. You may have a right to say it, but they're going to want to take it. Ian, do you think people have a right to express themselves freely? It depends on the situation. So is that a no? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:50 If you're out in the woods and if you make a sound, the panther knows where you are and will rip your throat out, then no, you don't have that right. You have the ability. You have the right. You just got to defend it. Right. Which is why you need that Bushmaster. But, I mean, the reality is we're squishy bodies. I don't think you understand what a right means, right? Yeah, exactly. We've got to defend it. Right. Which is why you need that Bushmaster. But, I mean, the reality is we're squishy bodies. I don't think you understand what a right means, right?
Starting point is 00:58:08 Yeah, exactly. We've got to define what that even means. If somebody wanted to speak freely, should they be stopped? Well, it depends on the situation. If you're going to alert people to your presence, then yeah, they should be stopped. I'm just saying, like, okay, so there are circumstances in which you think people shouldn't be allowed to express themselves. Exactly, yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I don't agree with that. I think people have a right to express themselves no matter what. Well, welcome to the military. The consequences are their choice. There's a difference between saying, well, you might give away your position. It's like, okay, well, you're allowed to do it. That's your decision, not mine. And I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 00:58:37 If I'm standing next to you and we're in the woods and you want to start screaming and have your lungs, I have a right to walk away. And I'll say, Ian, you go ahead and do it. But if my screaming is going to get us killed, then... I will leave. My rights are more important than your life. And it's not even close. And no offense.
Starting point is 00:58:55 But my rights are more important than your... They're also more important than my life. I will not live where I cannot speak freely, where I cannot worship as I see fit. I will not live that way. I will die before I do. What about the right to pursue happiness? That's not a right.
Starting point is 00:59:10 That is a preamble. Rights are specific. I see. You have the right to speak freely. You have the life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. And that was like a conveyance of feeling about what their goal was.
Starting point is 00:59:26 They didn't make the First Amendment the right to pursue happiness. It's nebulous and vague and can't be enforced. And the Bill of Rights is not the only rights. It simply expects some... In fact, they thought, many people thought we don't need a Bill of Rights. This stuff's obvious.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Well... Was it the Anti-Federalists? I don't remember well thank thank it was the anti-federalists i don't remember it's one of them i think it was the anti-federalists were like we're not giving you that power it's got to be outlined in fact i think there was originally 17 in the bill of rights and they decided to combine some remove some and boy did they screw up the second you know why because the original article that they wrote up actually said even if you are not a part of a militia your right to keep in bare arms shall not be infringed but they were worried that if they included that people would use it as an argument to avoid conscription so they said let's just say you have the right
Starting point is 01:00:15 let's just let's just give the uh damn brady group uh some to try and hang it stupid it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't matter though you. You know why? Because without culture, it's meaningless. Oh, of course. That's my point. Look, rights have to be defended and enforced. But no, no, Ian,
Starting point is 01:00:31 I'm not saying that your rights don't exist. I'm saying that if you don't have a culture that's willing, that's going to agree with you or recognize your rights, then the Constitution,
Starting point is 01:00:40 the Constitution doesn't grant you your rights. It tells the government not to infringe upon these specific rights. If you have a culture that says we'll infringe anyway, be prepared to defend your rights. But it was the fathers, the founding fathers, that decided which rights are inalienable. It wasn't like those were actual.
Starting point is 01:00:57 It wasn't like God channeled it for these reasons. No, they didn't, Ian. They said, let's create a list of rights to stop the government from infringing. They even say that rights that aren't included are not – just because they didn't include it in the Bill of Rights, it doesn't mean you don't have those rights. Right. They were like, let's pick the best outline for what it is to live in a human society. And they agreed on it. These are Puritan Christian white men that agreed on a set of rights.
Starting point is 01:01:21 It doesn't mean that they're the only rights or that they're the best rights. No, Ian, you are wrong. They didn't all agree on what rights were. In fact, there was an argument over whether or not they'd have a set of rights. Well, does it mean that they're the only rights or that they're the best rights? No, Ian, you are wrong. They didn't all agree on what rights were. In fact, there was an argument over whether they'd have a bill of rights. What they said was we have rights. Then which ones do we put in? Out of 17, they get down to 10. And they said these are the ones that protect the country. And they negotiated and compromised. There were many people who felt there were some rights you should have and some right you shouldn't have. Some people were slave owners and some people were abolitionists. They clearly did not agree.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I guess some cultures might have a bill of rights that say you have the right to three wives. Yeah, but they're wrong. Well, who says, though? That's our right. Our military. Our Constitution does not say you have a right to anything. Yes, that's correct. No positive rights.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It does. It says these rights are yours. No, it doesn't. The government can't infringe on them. Right. And the government cannot infringe on these rights. Our rights are negative rights. The enumerated rights, that is the ones that are specifically set out because those are not the only ones.
Starting point is 01:02:18 They're specifically reserved other rights. The enumerated rights are all negative. The Bill of Rights, you're saying. The Bill of Rights, they are all negative in the sense that the government cannot infringe on these. There are no rights that you have to something. You have no right to a house or a job or to my labor or to pronouns. But in saying they have the obligation to not infringe on that right, they're essentially saying you have that right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:43 So they're acknowledging. No, they're acknowledging. No. Well, the rights come from Yeah. No, they're acknowledging. No. Well, the rights come from God. That's what it says. It's written in that it's like God said. Come on, guys.
Starting point is 01:02:52 I don't think you understand the philosophy. God gave it. Ian, I think it'd be really important that if you're going to. Well, where else would rights come from? A gun. Ian, you need to actually read some theology and some religion to understand what they're saying. Because I think the problem here is that you fundamentally don't understand the philosophy behind inalienable rights. You seem to think that some guys read a Bible and just arbitrarily decided something because you don't understand what it means to have intrinsic, inherent value.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Well, I see that there is value to it. I acknowledge, like, the free speech is legit, but it's also subjective to our society and our culture right now. No, a right can't be subjective. A right is inherent to every human being. And even the victim of the Taliban who's got an AK-47 to his head has a right to speak freely, even if someone's going to blow his head off because he does it. When I say the rights come from God, look, I'm a religious guy. There are people who aren't religious who are humanists.
Starting point is 01:03:46 They'll call themselves humanists and say that as a human being, I have these rights. And, you know, at the end, the effect is similar in that they are a given. They are outside debate. You cannot debate the right to do it because the right exists. That's why I reject all these balancing tests. Well, you know, Tim, it's important that you uh have free speech but you know if your speech is harmful well look speech is the only speech that matters the only time rights matter is when it's harmful or forbidden or unwanted or unreasonable otherwise it doesn't you don't need a right
Starting point is 01:04:23 you know no one will care. There are certain rights that are actually universal, in fact, you know, in all cultures. You know, the right. There are basic, like, tenets that allow us to survive as a species better, and I think a lot of those are codified in the U.S. Constitution. But for people to rely – the reason I'm bringing this up is because I'm afraid that people are going to rely and be like these are my rights, this paper
Starting point is 01:04:50 says so, so no one can touch me and like dude, you have to fight, if you want those to be real, you need to struggle we're on the same sheet of music there and that's, you know, that's why I believe every American should own guns that's why I believe every American should be trained to participate in the defense of our community and constitution.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I mean, there's the serious challenge, though, of what happens when the bus pulls up for the Australians and says, you know, we're going to be taking you and relocating you to the alternative quarantine hub to the relocatable campsite. We're going to be color coordinating your outfits and your cabins. Unfortunately, they're going to finish their fosters and get on board. Actually, I don't think they have fosters in Australia. I think they have fosters in Australia. I don't think so. No, I think it's like the old Milwaukee. No, I'm pretty sure it's not there.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I have friends from Australia, and they're like, we don't have that. You don't have fosters? I'm pretty sure. They can? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not an American thing. Sydney Watson, can you get on this? She said they don't have them. have friends from Australia and they're like, we don't have that. You don't have Foster's? I'm pretty sure. They can? Sydney Watson, can you... She said they don't have it. I always make that joke, or half joke
Starting point is 01:05:51 to my Australian friends. I'd be like, oh, so you guys drink Foster's like Budweiser? We don't have that. It's American. And I'd be like, really? But maybe. I don't know. I'm not from Australia. So let me ask you, though. Who do gurus? In light of this conversation about our rights, with everything that's been happening, where do you – let's talk about the split.
Starting point is 01:06:12 What do you think is – you're optimistic, you said, that you think we're going to have a resurgence and some patriotism, a new president who comes and saves the day? Or do you think it's all going to just crumble, fall apart? Look, I have to think that somehow we're going to get through this and there's going to be a new day where we realize that it's important to respect our rights, to create a civil society where everybody can participate and where it's not run for the pure benefit of an elite upper class. There will always be an elite, but we used to have an elite that at least pretended to care about the nature of the country and the people in it. We don't have that right now.
Starting point is 01:06:53 The Split is my sixth Kelly Turnbull action novel. People run around, shoot people. The story is America has split in two, into red and blue areas. The hero goes into the blue areas to do missions and sees how things are happening. The split takes place about a year, six months, a year after the country has split in two. So this is like your imagination of what would happen if this really did happen, right? Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:16 So how does the country split? The country basically comes up to the brink of war and negotiates a somewhat peaceful split into basically. But what's the underlying fracture? Is it just tribalism? It's exactly what we're seeing now. It's an elite that wants to oppress. It is normal Americans who don't want to be oppressed. There is some violence.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Some red states like Abbott and DeSantis say we're not going to comply. Exactly. Some of the bigger red states refuse to comply. There is a crisis, which was the book that preceded this crisis. And that covers the split up of America in my timeline. And all through it, you know, you have my little action hero running around this Wilson combat C cqb 45 shooting liberals and seeing people uh be wacky and he's dealing with a lot of these folks and america blue america is essentially a a giant college campus people's talking about their pronouns you know sports team uh you know forced to uh you know invite uh fat athletes so that they're anti-fatism uh it's almost what's that what's that um i can't remember the idiocracy no no no
Starting point is 01:08:31 i mean yeah the short story about how um harrison bergeron yes yes yes i know it's just like right there uh kurt vonnegut uh uh another kurt who writes books. So does this follow the timeline properly with the other story you had? Well, look, I've written the books out of chronological order. I actually conveniently have a list. In fact, I've got like 425 reviews in Amazon. Most of them five-star, which I'm super appreciative of. People love these books. And I really enjoy writing them, and I hope I'm saying so.
Starting point is 01:09:04 But in these reviews a startling number are like and in his preface which you should read kurt lists the timeline of the books because they're i didn't write them chronologically in the timeline uh so you can write read them as he wrote them you can read them in chronological order to see how things go but it's uh you know i'm now on six books so i've kind of got like a canon and i feel like those star trek guys you know and people are coming up going you know your character kelly turnbull in number one he said his social security number was one two three four five six seven eight nine but in the new one it's one two three four five seven nine what's up with
Starting point is 01:09:42 that it's like would you typo Would you advise them reading that chronologically or from the beginning? Let's talk about the story. You don't think it's going to happen, though? No, I think we're going to figure look, I think we're going to have in 2022 2024
Starting point is 01:09:58 a backlash. I think we're going to muddle through. That doesn't mean we will. That means I think that's the most likely result. And frankly, it's the one I hope for. What do you think the Democratic establishment will do when they lose control of the House
Starting point is 01:10:16 but retain control of cultural institutions? And the presidency. Well, if we have a... They're up to lose the senate as well right they could lose the senate it's less likely they're almost starting to lose the house just on structural factors gerrymandering gerrymandering uh which we should do ruthlessly because they're going to i want to i want to pause real quick and explain how important and good gerrymandering oh yes the people who claim that gerrymandering is bad, these people are authoritarians who are trying to lie to you and manipulate you.
Starting point is 01:10:48 You see the memes all the time where they're like, gerrymandering is bad, and here's why. And they show three squares. And within each square, you can see 40% red and 60% blue. And they say, in each of these districts, a Democrat will win. Now let's do gerrymandering. And then they shape the inside of the cubes in certain ways so that it's like three to two red and the Republicans win. And then they always say, see, that's why it's bad. They will then show you a map. And on the map, you'll see like Dan Crenshaw's district, for instance, is like a weird moon shape with like weird lines connecting it. And they're like, see, it makes no sense, what should it look like a square but what about industrial centers what about factories are those
Starting point is 01:11:29 gonna fall inside his congressional district no they draw these things to make sense for two two very important reasons one when it's drawn all weird it's because that's where people live yes and they think it's gonna be a square it's like that's a that's a sea world dude he's got he's got he's got it's got to be a square. It's like, that's a sea world, dude. It's got to be over the houses. So they connect the residential areas and it looks weird. The other reason is, if we just did it block by block, you very
Starting point is 01:11:54 well could end up with zero representation for a strong minority who then says, I object. Because they're no longer getting listened to. Exactly. Ideally, representative districts should be representative, but they don't have to be perfect. And the party in power in each state
Starting point is 01:12:15 has the ability to draw lines to its advantage to get one or two extra seats. In New York, I think there are right now eight Republicans. They're probably going to cut it down to three. Yeah, and I think – And in Ohio, there's a map you could draw, a legit map, and there's some Voting Rights Act stuff to make sure that minority communities have representation. That's just a fact. I'm not arguing for or against it.
Starting point is 01:12:43 But you could get a 13-2 Republican Ohio if you did it the right way. And I say you should do it because everybody's going to do it. So back to the main issue, Republicans control a majority of the states, the state houses, which means they can draw up the congressional maps, which means Republicans just on that factor alone are poised to win at least what is 11 seats. Yeah. Well, they need five to win five to take over. And what do you think is going to happen when in 2022 the Democrats lose the House? They've already been tweeting. If we lose the House, it's all over.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I wonder what they mean by it's all. What is that reference to? And then what happens in 2024 when Trump or DeSantis wins? We already saw how insane they got in the first term of Trump. Are we just going to assume that they're going to sit back? Look what was reported by the Boston Globe. What's the guy who did the Hillary campaign? I can't remember his name. Podesta.
Starting point is 01:13:40 John Podesta. Yeah, look what he said. Boston Globe said that he advised the West Coast to secede if Donald Trump were to win the election. So what's going to happen come 2024? They lose house power in 2022. We then start seeing, well, I don't want to get optimistic, but maybe Republicans will use subpoena power. I really doubt it. Well, look, if we get a republican in there who is woke
Starting point is 01:14:05 who knows what time it is which which you mean red-pilled red-pilled yeah woke is the other way other way i like woke woke is my word i'm taking woke back i'm with you i want woke i man i'm insomniac woke i refuse to sleep i know ambient for kurt um i want a republican let's let's call it ron desantis because donald trump is not that guy donald trump still believes in institutions which is adorable but you know i and i'll support him if he's the nominee uh but uh you know he's going to have primary i think i don't think he walks in by any means, nor should he. I am unsentimental about politicians. You've got to prove you're the best.
Starting point is 01:14:51 You've got to prove you're the winner. And there's no gimmies and no favorites. It's Battle Royale, Thunderdome. First, do you think Republicans should? One interesting thing is we have a ton of Republicans running now. The announcements are apparently huge numbers of people getting active and getting involved. should that one interesting thing is we have a ton of republicans running now like the announcements are apparently like huge numbers of people getting active and getting involved yeah a lot of them are i mean like mike pompeo is a nice guy but i don't know i mean oh for the house the house is great
Starting point is 01:15:16 it's it's crazy oh we're seeing some great candidates in some areas oh my gosh people are people are super motivated and that's great because that starts building our bench. And then you have people like Scott Pressler who's doing voter registration. Love Scott. And he's saying I think Republicans, right, they're going to overtake Democrats in voter registration. So these are really good signs. Yeah. Do you think the Republicans will use the powers of the House at all the way the Democrats did?
Starting point is 01:15:42 Kevin McCarthy is going to have to walk a fine line between the old Republicans and the new ones. And he could resign. He won't. But look, I mean, we're adults here. There are factions. Our faction is not the majority. Our faction is the best. We are indisputably correct about our general principles.
Starting point is 01:16:06 But not everyone agrees with us. We've got to convert some. We've got to win electoral fights against others, and we've got to use pressure. And if Kevin McCarthy feels the pressure to conform the way Nancy Pelosi has felt pressure from her radicals, which is a squad, and as I'm calling ourselves the radicals, if only because we are not the establishment. That's okay. I don't care why they conform as long as they conform. And then come 2024, will the Democrats go insane? They will.
Starting point is 01:16:38 DeSantis wins. They will, but we need somebody who is conservative woke, who understands that every institution is dominated by the left and wants to uh bulldoze it all i mean destroy academia i mean end student loans no more grants to them i mean impose uh uh you know you know we're hey guess what free speech on campus if you don't defend it you're in trouble you know we need we need a great reset of academia oh yes the idea that we're we're having young people take out hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt disgraceful to go to a building to read the internet yeah exactly exactly and look i you know i i've got teenagers uh so i kind of hear some of what teenagers do
Starting point is 01:17:22 look i'm 56 years old okay. My finger's not on the pulse and I don't get their music at all. But a lot of them are unbelievably woke about the college scam. They're like, I'm not going to go to some giant college, get a useless credential. It's not going to help me. Walk out with this anchor around my neck.
Starting point is 01:17:44 I love to hear it i i you know there are other things i can do maybe i go out there maybe i'll start a podcast which i think is beautiful there's god there's so much opportunity out there we just need to be unleashed there's so many ways people can create a life that they want to live you did it you've done it you've done it i've done it we built lives we wanted to live think about that that is unprecedented in human history how many people got to say it most of them spent their whole life you know rowing a uh you know people ho in a row the issue i guess i think the issue is that we've we've taught too many people to to be envious and so what you get
Starting point is 01:18:24 is people who desperately want to fit in by just doing what they're told to do. And that's how you end up with people believing the economy is good. The media says it. I'll believe whatever they say so I can fit in. That's how you succeed. Instead of realizing that doing what you want to do and just doing it good, well, is what brings success.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Exactly. And look, education may be part of it look i i needed a law degree to be a lawyer and a strategy degree to be a colonel that's fine i got those they didn't stop me from doing other things i i but you know the the i was talking to the guys downstairs about being at uc san die. And I remember literally two things. I remember a little bit about the, from classes. All right. I had been, I worked on Capitol Hill as an intern through the college.
Starting point is 01:19:15 I wrote on the comedy paper and the political paper. You know, I drank a lot of Coors. I saw the Jesus and Mary Chain live. I mean, I did a lot of fun things. But from classes, I learned a little about Containment in the Cold War and got to talk to Michael Malice about it. By the way, that's his next book. And I learned about proportional voting in one particular class.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And I understand it, and I don't like it. But that's literally all I got from the classes. I could have not ever gone to a class and I'd be the same person. And that's, I mean... You know my favorite thing is when people on Twitter are like, Tim Poole's a high school dropout and it shows. And I'm like, bro, you're just like some random anonymous guy on Twitter and I'm running a big multimedia business.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Dude, you're... Wake up, dude. Go work for yourself. Stop thinking about other people. That's what I'm running a big multimedia business. Dude, you're – Wake up, dude. Go work for yourself. Stop thinking about other people. That's what I'm saying. They spend so much time caring about other people instead of themselves. Well, look. I mean high school dropout.
Starting point is 01:20:16 What does that mean? It means I found institutionalized learning facilities to be a waste of time. Yes. And you're here. You just had a guy with two advanced degrees, a law firm who was a colonel in the Army, and I jumped on a plane to fly across the country to sit here talking to you for two hours. That seems pretty freaking good to me.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Hard work pays off. Yeah. Hard work pays off. And look, I tell people, you know, people are like, don't follow your dreams. Well, that's not necessarily so. You've got to eat some stuff. You've got to work hard. I mopped out toilets at Carl's Jr.
Starting point is 01:20:57 I was a private in the Army. I did hard, miserable things I don't want to do again. But I'm doing what I want to do. So you enlisted? Yeah, I was enlisted. And then how do you – Officer Candidate School. At a certain point, you then go –
Starting point is 01:21:10 Well, I had the promise of Officer Candidate School after basic training. So I went from basic immediately to OCS, which was a – worst 14 weeks of my life. I would go back to a war zone in a heartbeat before I'd go back to OCS. Why? It was horrible. Don't a lot of people, they just go to – they in a heartbeat before I'd go back to OCS. Why? It was horrible. Don't a lot of people, they just get a degree and then they go into? They go ROTC. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:32 And they get essentially some of the same training without the same nightmarish qualities of officer candidate school. Officer candidate school is designed to throw out one-third of the people who apply. And they do. Yeah. And I should have been one of them because I was new to the Army. I didn't know anything about the Army. I'd been in eight weeks. I managed to stick around.
Starting point is 01:21:52 The reason I stuck around, according to the officer in charge of my platoon, was, well, you were good on academics, and you would teach people. And I thought that was something good. You took a skill you had, and you used people. And I thought that was something good. You took a skill you had, and you used it, and I thought that was good leadership, so I let you stay. I was like, oh, okay. You know? I mean, great. And I mean, miserable.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Horrible. I'm so glad I did it. Did they just starve you guys? Oh, yeah. Starve, no sleep, constant pressure. Constant pressure for 14 weeks. Oh, wow. What's an example of like?
Starting point is 01:22:30 Oh, God. You'll flunk out if you don't do this, this, and this. Okay, guys. You've rested 10 minutes. Now we're going to march 12 miles. You know, just constant. And you see how much you can take. And you learn a lot about yourself then.
Starting point is 01:22:43 And about what your guys are going through. Oh, definitely. Definitely. I could look at my guys in the eye and say, hey, I ate garbage too. Dirt. I ate dirt too. You know why they need it? Because too many people in this country, they grew up in foofy marshmallow land.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Yeah. Their parents, you know, there's an insurance commercial, I think it is. And it's like the parents, you know, tell the kid, like, we got you a car and it's a hand-me-down. And they're like, I can't believe this. And they're like, oh, no. And some commercial where the kid's freaking out because the car they got was bad. And I was like, man, you got a car? Wow. Those are the people that need that.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I got a 73 Mustang, 302 engine, three-speed auto for $750, and I had to drive my brother around and drive myself to work and pay for the gas and stuff. That was my car. I loved it. I'll tell you a story. I was a long time ago. I was a teenager. My car broke, and I was going to go hang out with a friend. And this was when I was in the suburbs of Chicago. And my friend, I think, was like 20 miles away. time i was a teenager my car broke and i was going to go hang out with a friend and i lived this is
Starting point is 01:23:45 when i was in the suburbs of chicago and my friend i think was like 20 miles away in a car it's no big deal yeah it's like okay you know you're in the suburbs like i got to drive up i'll be i'll be there in like half an hour so i grabbed a bike and i said i'm gonna ride the 20 miles because if i want to go hang out i have no choice my car doesn't work i can sit around and nothing i don't want to do that that's lame i got my bike and I was riding down the side of a highway, pitch black, in the middle of the night. And the tire exploded, and I flipped over my handlebars, and then I started walking. And then there was another time where I was hanging out in Naperville, a suburb of Chicago. And after the party ended, I was like, time to go home and start a 10-mile walk.
Starting point is 01:24:22 It took me a couple hours, several hours. I got back in the early hours. In the morning, I went to bed. I thought it was awesome. I had a great time walking those 10 walk. It took me a couple hours, several hours. I got back in the early hours of the morning, went to bed. I thought it was awesome. I had a great time walking those 10 miles. It was great. Yeah, I remember walking back from a party like seven or eight miles, and I was just like, okay. But how many people have that determination to be like,
Starting point is 01:24:39 I am going to actually embark on walking 10 miles or riding a bike for 20? It's important to do hard things, and what you see for so many of these kids today who are you know carded between soccer and violin lessons and you know hot yoga it is there's a lot of it but it isn't hard it isn't it there's no gut check for them because their tiger mom is screaming is making them do it in ocs no literally no one cared except me if i got tossed out no one cared it was all me they weren't encouraging me they were like if you can't suck it up, get out. Quit. And a lot of people did. I was just stupid and stubborn. But I did it. And I think those experiences are hugely valuable.
Starting point is 01:25:34 It makes you a better person to do hard things and know you can do hard things. And our society, what's that horrible, horrible cliche that's absolutely true? Good times, hard men make good times. Good times make soft men. Soft makes men hard times. Hard times make good men. Got it.
Starting point is 01:25:54 It's a hack cliche, but it's absolutely true. It is. And then it's also the fourth turning. Are you familiar with the fourth turning? No, it's the fourth turning. What is it? Strauss-Howe generational theory.
Starting point is 01:26:04 There's a lot of people who watch who like it. A lot of people don't like it. They think it's stupid. It's basically every 20 years, every new generation, you get different periods, the seasons. And so you have like, I forgot the name of each turning. The first is immediately after World War II, the baby
Starting point is 01:26:20 boom, the economy's exploding. Then you get the next generation, the children of those who fought. Then you get the next generation, the children of those who fought. Then you get the next generation. And then by the fourth turning is you're in the crisis again. Yep. So like World War II was the crisis period. Yep.
Starting point is 01:26:33 And so we are – That's about right. We are literally in the crisis period right now, which is set to end, I believe, in 2028. It coincides with the loss of – like basically the last generation that experienced the winter. It's spring, summer, winter, or fall, winter. Oh, interesting. Look, I think there may be something to that. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:26:53 What happened 80 years ago? Well, we had the Depression. 80 years ago. 80 years ago? Yeah. World War II. What happened 80 years before that? Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 01:27:04 Civil War. What happened 80 years before that oh gosh uh civil war what happened 80 years before that revolution that's right so that's basically the idea yeah okay i mean look i i get it i think that's uh uh at the very least it's thought provoking yes i agree there's no guarantees i mean you know someone notices a pattern of like three major events happening after several generations and they're like maybe it'll happen again but when a generation dies that has experienced the trauma they're not there to protect us from experiencing the trauma again people are like the world will be over by christmas let's go that's why right now it's hilarious to see and i'm stealing the meme from i can't remember who said it an alarming number of people who are screaming punch a nazi now saying show me your
Starting point is 01:27:40 papers so punch a nazi is so crazy dude don Don't you see what the Nazis used to do? They used to punch communists. Did you know that they also banned disabled people? So that's why I'm furious about what New York is doing. The Nazis claimed that Jews carried typhus, and that was one of their reasons for banning them. What they're doing in New York is not new, but people just keep forgetting their history yeah or they just don't care their mentality is probably like well i love it when they say they're on you know they're on the right
Starting point is 01:28:10 side of history it's like if that's what you think sure i guess is that why your motive is that was that why you do what you do simply because you think one side's gonna win so you've sided with them that's amazing and then it'll be funny when you lose because you are a fascist well my and i know that we're gonna get like the media matters guys going, can't say to showing sympathy for the Taliban. No. But right now we have just seen an ideologically focused group of insurgents take over an incompetent, corrupt, and weak power structure.
Starting point is 01:28:43 I mean, it fell apart. We we saw that so when they start going you're the american taliban i'm like well not ideological wise but you guys are very weak and very ideologically uh uncertain and i don't think there's anybody out there who's willing to die for crt but there's a hell of a lot of people who are willing to die for their rights. And of course, we're not there yet. It's not a perfect analogy. Shut up, you liberal jerks. But it's so
Starting point is 01:29:13 blind of them to not understand what they're supporting, which is the unsupportable. Because the institutions, as they're currently constituted, have done nothing but fail. The Olympics failed. The NBA is failing.
Starting point is 01:29:30 The Academy Awards are failing. The colleges are failing. The banks are going to fail. Wall Street's already failed. It got bailed out. The military has failed. The judiciary has failed. What hasn't failed everything's failed
Starting point is 01:29:47 that can't keep going i think the end happened in 2008 to be honest and i think since beginning of the end yeah right so i mean that's that's when the foundation cracked and the building started to go down and now they're like desperately trying to just slowly you know actually a better way to say it is that as the cracks are forming and breaking and the buildings are going to fall, they're like, shall we steal all the silverware before the building comes down? And so they run and they grab everything and they're running out the door. I think they're moving it all to China.
Starting point is 01:30:16 The whole Chinese thing. The way our institutions have sold out to China. Boy, watching Disney suck up to those guys, I mean, it's staggering. But they have. China's got its own problems. Right now, interestingly, China is cracking down
Starting point is 01:30:38 on its own internet tech people. They've been. They nailed Jack Ma. Yeah, he's gone, right? He disappeared for like months. He's like the richest businessman in China. Then they took his companies and started giving pieces of them away
Starting point is 01:30:53 to other members of the party, etc. And his net worth plummeted by 50%. Yeah, I mean, again, power is everything to these leftists. And they will kill the golden goose. That's what they're doing here. They're killing the golden goose that is America. I mean, you don't shut down the Keystone Pipeline and American Energy Independence because you want golden eggs.
Starting point is 01:31:15 And then we have a media in this country that are just too stupid. And so I loved all the fact checks where they were like, no, Joe Biden's policies aren't responsible for the gas price increase because these journalists didn't do any actual research. They just said, well, the Keystone Pipeline wasn't transporting any oil, so it wouldn't have affected gas prices anyway. And then it's like, did you look up any economics? Because I'll tell you this, for one, Joe Biden's policy on the Keystone Pipeline caused speculators to believe that there would be a short supply in the coming years, which means buy now, make money later. for one joe biden's policy on the keystone pipeline caused speculators to believe that there would be a short supply in the coming years which means buying now make money later the buying now increases the price of crude which increases the price of gas well when you've done
Starting point is 01:31:54 nothing in your life but get a four-year degree at some uh prestigious college that your dad probably slipped him some money to get you into, or was a legacy. And then you wrote for some crappy website. And then you finally got a job at the Times or the Washington Post. That's your life experience. Midwits. Midwits. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Yeah. Our elite is not elite. I wouldn't like being bossed around by an elite that was full of really smart, accomplished people. But it would grate a little less than these nitwits that we have now. What about like an advanced alien species that comes to Earth and they have all this magical – Our insect overlords? No, the grates, right? Apparently those are real. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:32:42 They have amazing technology and they're like, if you listen to us, you will have access to all this technology, or you can do your own thing. Would you be like, I'm going to do what these guys say? I think there would be a significant number of people who would go, this sounds like a great deal. I can give up all personal responsibility and get the Beffets. No, no, no. I'm saying they come to enslave everybody. They're just like, look at this technology we have we'll tell you what to do in order to get to this level but you have to follow our instructions by all means you can leave the deal at any time or you can just say
Starting point is 01:33:13 no it's a great deal oh it depends on what their instructions are well no it's like it's like we need cobalt and we need nickel and then you put it in this way like they're like my point is that you can recognize true authority and and and why it exists like someone comes to you and says you have freedom to choose and this will help you what do you say you're like this person clearly knows what they're talking about right and i can walk away at any moment that's not that's a great deal so the way i bring it up because i'm always looking for the uh i'm always looking for the twist yeah if they ask you what's what's... What's the twist? We're going to finish building it in private.
Starting point is 01:33:48 But let's just say it's hypothetically like it is a secure situation. You're not being tricked or anything. Open source blueprints. Okay, if somebody says, hey, here's some ways to advance, all for free. But you've got to follow our instructions. The issue is some people will be like, yeah, but you said we want to do that. That's stupid. I'm not doing that.
Starting point is 01:34:04 It's like, well, then leave. You know what I mean? So what I'm saying is there are people right now who are running things who are trying to convince you that they're smarter, but they're not. They're just people. And so the issue is... And not very accomplished ones. The issue is we have the worst of the argument. Inept people
Starting point is 01:34:20 demanding you do it or else versus the apt who are giving you the freedom to choose. Exactly. We do have the worst of all possible worlds. We have incompetent, corrupt, and inexplicably full of self-regard. We have never had an elite that thought so much of itself for so little reason. I mean, if you ask, look at our institutions, our establishment.
Starting point is 01:34:44 Really, in the last 20 years, what is your big achievement? What have you done that's good? And you won't get a real answer. Maybe like, oh, we've become more aware of BIPOC trans issues in the Asian American community. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Doesn't count. Not an achievement. Just a thing. We gonna go to super chats if you haven't already smash that like button and subscribe to this channel share the show with your friends go to timcast.com for that members only podcast which will be coming up around 11 or so p.m and let's uh let's let's read what y'all are talking about over in those super chats all right let's see. What is this? Recramorson says,
Starting point is 01:35:29 Tim, the word you've been looking for is dirigismy and dirigists. I don't know what that is. Ah, the French. He says, look it up. It's the economic system favored by fascists. The French have a system where they want to direct things. They want free enterprise with direction. And that's kind of the way that term is sometimes used.
Starting point is 01:35:54 All right. Robin P. says, my company just revoked my access privileges to the cafeteria for not being COVID vaccinated. I'm a healthy 26-year-old with a history of anaphylaxis. Our company is around 80% vaccinated. This madness is real. And so if you have a history of anaphylaxis, you will probably be advised to avoid this. But you've got to talk to your doctor, obviously. I'm familiar with this because I've had allergies in the past.
Starting point is 01:36:17 And I just think, what's the end result? New York now has, get this, you are now allowed, nay required, in New York City to fire all of your employees with medical conditions that bar them from getting vaccinated. So I was thinking about this, right? If the majority of people who are not vaccinated in New York, or the largest demographic, not the majority, the largest demographic of unvaccinated are black people. A lot of businesses are now firing their black employees. Or they're going to be by September 13th. They're firing their unvaccinated employees who happen to be black. Which is disproportionately black.
Starting point is 01:36:54 So it's not technically racist. Well, if you use some of the liberal equity arguments in which unequal impact or disparate impact is the same as establishing racism. That's a good point. Then they've got a problem. And, look, I think a lot of lawyers do not want to jump into this fight for a couple reasons. Law isn't established. And, you know, somebody who is, you know, a truck driver who isn't vaccinated, you're not going to get paid and you've got to have you got to make your overhead so if you know hey my company's going to fire me if i don't uh you know if i uh if i don't wear a
Starting point is 01:37:35 vaccine i don't get a vaccine lawyer can you help me the lawyer's like no because i i'm not going to make any money off it you you have no money and there's no money at the end of the day. But something like that, I don't know. Maybe, I mean, there's some, too. If you have a company that fires eight black employees out of 12, you could have a serious problem. Not giving a legal opinion. Just brainstorming here. All right. Consult a lawyer in your own jurisdiction.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Seth Hilburn says, Hi, Tim and the gang. Can we get a birthday wish for one of your youngest fans? Her name is Daisy and she turns eight years old today. Congratulations, Daisy. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Daisy. Happy birthday, Daisy. They don't want to risk their law firm by going against NY. This is not to say they don't agree with you.
Starting point is 01:38:26 This is the death of free speech. If you're a medical discrimination lawyer in New York City, don't you go up against the city in lawsuits when the city discriminates? I guess they're scared. It may not be a good case. I don't know. I don't know New York law. The New York law may support de Blasio. Doesn't make it a good law wouldn't be one
Starting point is 01:38:46 i'd vote for i i i'm not so sure i mean de blasio did say that he's requiring the human rights commission to review the order to make determinations the problem is there's no specific medical exemptions at all which means you're taking the interpretation of okay is an underlying condition considered a disability in this capacity? And is the fact that because of that you can't get a vaccine mean they're violating your disability or are they just filing the vaccine mandate? And I'm just talking very generally, not your lawyer, not your lawyer. A ADA usually covers disabilities, which are conditions that impact a major life function. Is this a major life?
Starting point is 01:39:26 I mean, hold on, hold on. They're not saying you can't, you know, they're not saying, oh, you're immunocompromised. You can't come in. They're saying you're not vaccinated. You can't come in. That is true. And is that distinction important? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:38 My guess is there are a lot of liberal. My guess is you're going to find ideological rulings on this. Right. And that's a problem. I'll tell you, it's no secret that in a case that has any kind of ideological overtones or even in regular business cases, when you get a judge, the first thing you do is figure out who the judge is. Who's this judge? Who appointed this judge? If you've ever watched Law and Order, you'll know it when they're going to the court and they're like we just been signed assigned
Starting point is 01:40:06 judge smith don't worry he's going to be good to us because yes it's in a lot of those episodes no but that but that's absolutely true you you you want to know who the ref is i i suppose major league baseball players go oh we got jones is a ref he doesn't call strikes i don't know do i do the sports reference right i'm not a good guy okaypire. I'm not a good guy, okay? I'm not a sports guy. But you get the point. And I think a lot of, look, a lot of judges will rule exactly as their ideology. A liberal judge will tend to support the government in doing whatever it thinks it needs to do,
Starting point is 01:40:39 or that is whatever it wants to do regarding alleged COVID protections. All right. Legama Figean says, My grandfather was clubbed in the head and left for dead in a pile of corpses in Europe. Now that there are literal camps in an Anglophone country, the word Nazi has been completely gutted of any meaning. The way forward won't be easy, terrifying, infuriating, and unjust. Yeah. I'm really worried
Starting point is 01:41:05 about these camps i think a lot about the british people they give me crap about saying that like canada and in australia are part of the british commonwealth and that the queen has no power here the queen they have obviously the queen has no power here we have lockdowns in camps now like dude monarchy is no joke they own the the land. No, she didn't do it. Neither did Manson, you know. What? Manson didn't kill those people. He had people do it for him.
Starting point is 01:41:30 What citation do you have where the queen came out and said in any way that she wanted lockdowns in Australia or Canada? No, she's just passively sitting there letting it happen. I don't know what kind of authority she has. She is 115 years old. It's very obfuscated. I don't know. She's old. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:41 She's crusty. I mean, she's no Joe Biden. That's right. She's getting around. She's got her corgis. She's old. Yeah. She's crusty. I mean, she's no Joe Biden. That's right. She's getting around. She's got her corgis. She's rocking her handbag. She's sharp as a knife. But, man, you look at Joe Biden and that desiccated old freak.
Starting point is 01:41:58 I mean, he's – oh, did you see that speech? God. You didn't like the speech? I was embarrassed to the core of my being. What didn't you like about it? Everything from the moment he opened his mouth to the core of my being. What did you like about it? Everything from the moment he opened his mouth to the moment he shut his eye off. Blaming everybody else for this. I'm taking full responsibility for these actions of the Afghans, Donald Trump, the insurrectionists, right-wing talk radio hosts, everybody but me.
Starting point is 01:42:25 You're the commander. Everything you do or don't do is on you. Everything you do or don't do is on you. You're the commander. I think he said a few important things that were really good and important, that we can't send another generation of young men and women to fight in a country where they won't even fight for themselves. That is not open to debate. That is no longer a subject of debate.
Starting point is 01:42:43 We have decided that as a society. That is done that's it he's sitting there going well i'm gonna it's like the woman i found on twitter who was complaining that uh white women were writing stories that involve black people and i of course i look at her bio she lists herself as an anti-rape activist which i guess is fine but who are the pro-rape activists that she's standing up against? OK, not a courageous stand. It's the right stand. Yes, we should all be anti-rape. Which is the point? I think the point is everybody knows we need to pull out of Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:43:19 You don't have to do it in a way that's best described as the subject of Roe versus Wade. Joe Biden screwed up the withdrawal very obviously. You had Matt Zeller on MSNBC explaining exactly how they were desperately trying to give them strategy and help them understand. Heartbreaking. But it is good that the president came out and finally said what people have been saying. Yes. The executive branch was forced to acknowledge everything the anti-war people have been saying for a long time. I think that was a good thing.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Well, look. Granted, I get it. He passed the buck. Well, it's also the pro-war people have been saying for a long time, I think that was a good thing. Well, look, granted, I get it. He passed the buck. Well, it's also the pro-war people. I mean, I would throw myself in the pro-war because I think that war is a legitimate tool of political action in the right circumstances. Definitely not this. But, you know, this guy is so far beyond the discussion. The American people decided long ago that our sons and daughters are not worth dying for doing some unspecified thing in Afghanistan. That only gets worse once you look at it closely. You know, hey, we're going to teach them to, you know, respect the rights of women and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:44:22 And, you know, turn these tribesmen into you know nice nice yankee uh democrats yeah i mean that that stuff's all obvious and he's like taking the heart saying yeah i'm finally the one who said it everybody's been saying it you crusty old freak um the fact is he failed to ensure that this was not the disaster it is yeah what could have been done let's we got to we got to read more superchats uh kyle miller says tim can you bring jack posobic and china uncensored on at the same time to talk about china's interest in taiwan china smells blood after afghanistan and is doing drills by the island didn't uh the the global times put out a statement saying that they'll crush the 30 000000 or whatever U.S. troops on the island or something like that. Well, I don't – we have troops around the island.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Look, if I was Xi, I would grab Taiwan tomorrow. I don't know why he doesn't. Strategically, I can't think of a reason. We are not in a position to fight him. Joe Biden is not in a position to lead a war to defend Taiwan. We have not prepared Taiwan. We have not prepared Taiwan. Taiwan has not prepared itself. I don't understand why Xi doesn't do it.
Starting point is 01:45:34 It could create global sentiment against China, the Russian, the American, the Indian governments. Yeah, I don't care. Maybe that's why they're waiting, and they're going to do a bunch of stuff at once. Oh, this is cool. Alexander Scarpecci says, I saw Fox News highlight your tweet you do a bunch of stuff at once. Oh, this is cool. Alexander Scarpeggi says, I saw Fox News highlight your tweet you sent about the 311 phone call.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Huh. Hey, I don't even live in New York. I called New York when I asked them about medical exemptions. They said no. They told me, well, maybe you can try calling the mayor's office. You can't call the mayor's office. It's a web form where you can send an email. You can't call de Blasio?
Starting point is 01:46:03 No. What if you're his dealer? Well, then you get his number. He's got it. I assume they'd have a media inquiry line or something, but I guess they know that people would be slamming the phone with, like, insults and stuff, so they don't do it. Well, they are New Yorkers.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I'd like to think that they're slamming them with insults. I'm a little disappointed in New Yorkers. I thought New Yorkers took a lot less guff. What happened to the tough guys of Goodfellas? You know, now they're... Good times, weak men. Good times, weak men. Dude, we're going to see a bunch of speakeasy restaurants opening up.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Yeah. Oh, that's going to be cool. Wow. They were already doing it last year. A bunch of women got a warehouse, and then they were serving burgers and hot dogs or something. Casino thing. Yeah, casino.
Starting point is 01:46:44 Fight the power. And you know what? All of them will still vote Democrat. Yeah, I know. Cornelius Buttknuckle says, speaking of requiring IDs being racist, unless you're a minor, don't you need an ID just to get the vaccine?
Starting point is 01:46:57 Everyone I know who's gotten it has to show ID to get it. Interesting. That's not something important like voting. Right, yeah. All right. CA to CA Outdoors says,
Starting point is 01:47:10 Hey, Timcast, longtime fan and member, thank you for encouraging my wife and I to start our own YouTube channel with our vlog to start building
Starting point is 01:47:16 some culture of our own. Hiking, fly fishing, camping, road trips, and chasing the northern lights. Thanks again. Awesome. Glad to hear it. Cool.
Starting point is 01:47:23 CA to CA Outdoors. See? Now that's what we want to hear. I like that. And gosh, wait until that's unleashed again, when you have somebody who understands that the real strength of our society is all Americans doing their own thing.
Starting point is 01:47:39 And maybe your thing is, like, I want to be a garbage man. I want to get off at five, and I'm going to go home and play with my kids. on man you're cool or maybe it's i want to spend all day painting pictures and i'm not george bush you're awesome all right david murdoch says hey there drag the dead a third person zombie shooter starring the fabulous zane uh dimage infallible uncle hotep and supermodel adam criggler is approaching completion Get ready to clutch those pearls Latest teaser at David Murdoch Art on Twitter
Starting point is 01:48:08 Viva la counterculture Cool check it out guys Alright Jacob Gabrielson Gabrielson says I've played dystopian Games of all kinds and none of them are as Eerie as the palatable portrayal Of concentration camps That's creepy stuff man dystopian games of all kinds and none of them are as eerie as the palatable portrayal of concentration
Starting point is 01:48:25 camps that's creepy stuff man real life overtaken stuff that was one of the problems with my books man people would be like kurt you wrote this stuff and i read it and i laughed oh my gosh you know presidents announcing their pronouns and stuff that's crazy talk it's all come true i have to go more insane every book just to keep ahead of reality. Jeez. Weber J says, the video of Afghans on the runway in Kabul and clinging to the wings. I didn't see desperate people. They looked to be celebrating, waving and smiling and trying to disable the plane duped by China.
Starting point is 01:48:58 I don't know about that. I think they wanted to get on. And, you know, a lot of people, there were some people who made a point. They said these people were willing to climb on the side of a C-17 with no chance of survival, but they weren't willing to fight for their country. Yeah. I saw a lot of military age males on those airplanes.
Starting point is 01:49:17 I saw a lot of piles of unshot guns. No organization. That's why. But here's the thing. You can't organize these guys. They aren't a Western force. We decide we are going to make a miniature example of the American Army with American combined arm operations. Here's our artillery.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Here's our vehicles. Here's our logistics. Here's our aircraft. We'll send you contractors to do all that hard stuff because the hard stuff is not the light infantry. The guys running around with rifles, that's the comparatively easy fun stuff the hard stuff is figuring out how to get beans and bullets from here to here when they're needed and we did all that for them then we pulled it out so we built an army like the u.s army the secret of the u.s army was always logistics yeah we're good fighters but when you're good fighters and you have endless stuff you are unbeatable uh then we pulled that stuff out and left them so we we built the wrong
Starting point is 01:50:13 kind of army if we had just said hey you guys like bands of guys with guns here's some guns go be a band over here and we'll pay you 500 bucks to make sure no taliban every 500 bucks a week to make sure there's no tal in this 10-mile area. You get a bunch of your buddies and kill any Taliban that come in. Oh, okay, cool. All right. Hostile Bogey Unbound says the Second Amendment doesn't mention hunting. That's right.
Starting point is 01:50:36 It says the defense of a free state. And also a lot of people think it's specifically about defending from tyrannical government. It's not. It's defending from any enemy. Yes. Period. Yeah. Like the idea was if a foreign country was going to invade and everybody's not. It's defending from any enemy. Yes. Period. Yeah. Like, the idea was,
Starting point is 01:50:46 if a foreign country was going to invade and everybody's armed, that's just never going to happen. It makes it a lot harder. Right. All right. Let's see. We got Tyrannical Jojo Jiden says,
Starting point is 01:50:56 Ian the Fascist. I mean, I do live in the United States. I'm not proud of it. You should be very proud. I'm not proud of the fascist takeover of the United States government. You don't I'm not proud of it. You should be very proud. I'm not proud of the fascist takeover of the United States government. You don't have to be proud of that. Country's the best on Earth. I know.
Starting point is 01:51:11 We just gotta make it the best on Earth again. Hayden says, I'm writing an article on natural slash God-given rights. Healthcare and housing not included and explained why. Tim's human level zero allegory hits it. Naked in the woods is zero, with a stick as level one.
Starting point is 01:51:28 I'll send it when finished. Have you heard me mention that before? I have not, but I am intrigued. The way I explain it to people is that if you are in the middle of the woods and you're naked, you're officially at zero. You're not bad. You're not good, but you better start working to make sure you don't go negative.
Starting point is 01:51:43 If you're naked in the woods and you've got an injury, now you're negative one. You're on the way down. Yes. If you're naked in the woods, but you got a pointy stick, now you're one. You're moving up. So the idea is- You got a plus one stick in D&D terms. That's right.
Starting point is 01:51:56 And a one D6 damage in America. When you're born into America, you're at 647,000. Yes. And these people are complaining as if they're negative three. You know, I see these people and they, American elitists are the most parochial people on earth, Tim. You've been all over the world. And you've been to not nice places. I've been all over the world.
Starting point is 01:52:22 I've been to a few not nice places myself. And we come back with this huge appreciation for the united states and then we got these guys you you conservatives don't even have passports i've been to berlin and amsterdam and london and paris oh and barcelona always barcelona because all you know barren 58-year-old teachers go to Barcelona. I went to... Yeah. And they just don't get it. And they can hate America because they've never seen anything else. You ever go to Brazil?
Starting point is 01:52:53 I've never been to Brazil. I was in Brazil several times. Awesome country, by the way. But they have favelas, which are the shantytowns. And I went to one. And I asked if they had a bathroom I can use. And they said yes. And they pointed to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:53:04 And the toilet was full of human waste piled up on itself over the toilet, and they explained, just go on top. I'll wait. I'll just wait until we get back to the hotel. And you know why? You can only flush when it rains. And you know where the toilet leads to? River. River.
Starting point is 01:53:21 River. There is a gigantic concrete chute that goes straight down next to everyone's house and there's pvc pipes sticking out the sides and if you stand there you see all just under the dirt no no it's it's concrete water it's like it's it there's no water oh and it rains and washes it off right yep and so it hadn't rained in a while as a drought and so they were like you know the water catch but It was a drought, and so they were like, you know, the water catch, but they started building water lines to try, they were trying to reclaim,
Starting point is 01:53:49 that's what they called it, pacify and then reclaim the favelas to get them under the jurisdiction of the Brazilian government because they're actually under the jurisdiction of gangs, but so these people actually, their water system was a big barrel,
Starting point is 01:54:01 a big water tub on their roof, and when it rained, they'd open it and then close it. And that's why they don't flush, because you can't waste the water. That's spectacular. And the people in some of these places, they build houses on top of other houses. So they just build. They'll walk up, walk through your house, and start building on the other side to build a house.
Starting point is 01:54:21 And people are just like, yeah, that's normal. It's a very, very different way of life now people they're happy you know they have family they have friends they have like distended stomachs from like worms and fecal infections i don't know about in brazil in peru they did yeah in a kitos it was sad because they weren't then they're also not taught they're they don't know that eating poop water is bad for you so they'll poop in the river and that's their drinking water and they'll wash off with it. You get an immediate 5,000 point bonus if you have running water in your house. Yeah, I think
Starting point is 01:54:52 the running water is underappreciated by folks. Tyrannical Jojo Jeden says Ian is 100% correct. Finally, rights are taken by force, not given by government. That's what 2A is. The method to retain your rights okay interesting way of looking at it i think often we're saying similar things that they're
Starting point is 01:55:11 they're vulnerable and you need to protect them yeah i just want to remind people not to hide behind your rights but to stand in front of them protect them there's the takeaway for tonight that's perfect all right the plague doctor says i work in health care and was forced to receive the vaccine it put me into an arrhythmia most hospitals require this so i don't really have the option of finding a new job we are required to get the booster shot no exceptions i'm going to lose my career sad sad sad to hear it man because this is exactly what i'm complaining about but everybody who heard that i hope you understand what it means to speak up. And now I'll say why I'm not, I'm going to say in the short term, I'm pessimistic. In the long term, I'm optimistic. And the reason, and it's not too dissimilar to what you were saying. Maybe someone will come along in a couple of years. I'm not really going to, I don't know if we can count
Starting point is 01:55:57 on it, but we can hope for it. Well, we can work for it. I know a lot of people who are staying in New York right now. I know a lot of people who are like, well, I don't want to, but I guess I'll have to. No, you don't have to. The woods await, my friends. You can go walk and hitchhike and just get away. I'm staying in California because I want to fight. I'm working for the recall. Rick Grinnell has identified 1.3 million conservative voters who need to be activated.
Starting point is 01:56:22 I wasn't taught to retreat. You don't, you don't have a block of instruction in that. So I'm, look, I'm willing to fight. And I think there's a place for that. Daniel Welch says, Aussie, adding context. Hotels have issues with AC air gradients, and we have had lockdowns from people catching the virus on the last day of hotel quarantine and then spreading it optics still not good sorry daniel
Starting point is 01:56:50 what's what that that's called you being a frog in a pot as they turn the heat up to the point where you're like oh i understand why these camps are necessary oh actually it's just because they're doing this no no there's no excuse for them building internment camps. Sorry. Dude, catch the disease. No, I, I, I, look, I, I, I mean, look, catch the disease. Because you're probably not going to die. You'll get sick for a little while. I got sick for a week. Yeah, but you don't want to spread it.
Starting point is 01:57:15 I don't spread it. Sit in your house and have the disease. And then you don't have to live in fear. Because this guy lives in fear. And he lives in such fear that he's willing to give up stuff. He should talk to his doctor. His doctor's going to tell him not to get it. Because what if he gets,, and he lives in such fear that he's willing to give up stuff. He should talk to his doctor. His doctor's going to tell him not to get it. Because what if he gets long COVID?
Starting point is 01:57:30 May tell him not to get it. Probably will say not to. Probably will say... Probably say avoid it if you can. That's right. But look, just a suggestion. Look, I'm not your doctor. Don't listen to my advice. Check out with your doctor.
Starting point is 01:57:42 But you're living in fear, man. Maybe you ought to face it. I don't know. All right. I can just see media matters. Kurt Schlichter says go get COVID. You know it. And he also likes the Taliban.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Shut up, you idiots. Marcus Case says, I'm shocked to agree with Ian on the rights topic. With hundreds plus deities worshipped worldwide, his point is valid with the three wives example. If your stance is that rights are granted by a fairy tale god. Oh, there you go. Some people are jumping on. There's always going to be an angry atheist. That's okay. It's called free speech.
Starting point is 01:58:14 I don't have to like what people say. Alright, Zachary Crossley says Lunker's TV just dropped a video about Afghanistan. He's a combat vet and now has a massive YouTube channel. Would be awesome to have him on so everyone can hear his perspective on afghanistan oh uh we're we're having some people on right we are tomorrow yeah oh cool yeah we're gonna talk uh with some uh retired military army and navy who were both there right yep this will be fun i think yeah at least
Starting point is 01:58:40 one on the ground all right right. Stellar Odyssey says, Oh, come on, Tim. Our metro-located hotel quarantine for international arrivals has been leaking COVID like a sieve, causing quick spread. The quarantine facility is isolated, so we'll address this issue. Let me correct what you've just said. Your country mandated a quarantine for travelers. They mandated a hotel lockdown, and then you accepted it.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Now they're moving the goalpost one step further by building camps. And you're like, oh, the camps are fine because the hotels were bad. Congratulations. They've convinced you to agree
Starting point is 01:59:17 to building relocation facilities. Yikes. Yeah, that's a nice trick. Hey, I have an idea. Don't stick a bunch of potentially sick people together in one place where it can go and spread like wildfire and cause problems. Ask people to be responsible. If you go home and you start feeling sick, lock yourself in your room.
Starting point is 01:59:39 Hey, me and my wife had it. We didn't infect our kids. We stayed in our room, stayed away from them, washed our hands. I stopped coughing in people's face, which I like to do all the time. I didn't even breathe on the dogs. Look, allow people to be responsible, but put everybody together in a giant petri dish and then act surprised when the entirely predictable response of putting people together in a petri dish happens? What?
Starting point is 02:00:06 Alina Bashong says, Ian doesn't know what natural law is. Start with Aquinas or C.S. Lewis. Yes. All right. Andrew Silverio says, Tim, you helped push me to realize that it was time to get out of cities. I lived in NYC my whole life,
Starting point is 02:00:21 but now I see the writing on the wall. Florida. Good choice. Florida is pretty good. You can life, but now I see the writing on the wall. Florida. Ooh. Good choice. Florida is pretty good. It's just the weather. You can handle the heat. I love the humidity. DeSantisville. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:32 I don't know. I hear a lot of talk about DeSantis. There's a lot of excitement out there. Expendable Guard Entertainment says, Tim, I spent six years living in Africa, and I have seen what a lack of national identity does to a nation. Look at the 2007 election riots in Kenya. We'll check that out.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Stuart Gray just says, just to send you a little money to keep your work, Tim. Hey, thanks for the superchats, guys. We appreciate all of you guys. Very much helps. Just Max Perk says, the Afghan army cannot fight without air support, intelligence, and consulting from the Americans. The Afghan army has suffered 50,000 casualties. They will fight, but they needed us. Yeah, I was reading.
Starting point is 02:01:10 I think it was the Wall Street Journal. They said that Biden cut out air support. So when they announced their withdrawing, the Afghans were like, we can't stop. The security forces were like, we can't actually stop the surge of 200,000 Taliban. They made a little U.S. Army. Pop quiz. Let's ask Ian. What's the primary killing system of American soldiers? Is it the M4 rifle?
Starting point is 02:01:38 Probably, yeah. No, it's fires. Artillery, missiles, bombs. It is calling in fire on people. That is the primary killing system. Artillery is called queen of battle. Close-up rifle to rifle, that gives the enemy a chance.
Starting point is 02:01:56 You don't want to do that if you can help it. We're very good at it. The U.S. uses air superiority control. I also thought about economic starvation and siege warfare based on their economics. Yeah, we don't do that too much. We're too nice. So what I was reading is they said that the U.S. strategy and the strategy taught to the Afghan security forces was air support comes in, crates openings, ground supports advance.
Starting point is 02:02:18 But when Biden pulled air support, all of a sudden they were like, our main strategy is broken. What do we do? And people panicked and started running. And then as soon as one runs, the line breaks and everyone fled. Then you had one guy in a plane fly to Uzbekistan. I guess they shot him down. The crazy thing about it is they, I can't remember which person said this. They said, we gave, I think it was maybe Biden. We gave them an air force. The Taliban doesn't have an air force and they still failed. And you look at the Wall Street Journal.
Starting point is 02:02:45 Well, Biden abandoned air support. We've talked to veterans in the past who have said something like you can keep a small, small, small amount, like a couple dozen to maybe 100 special commandos or liaisons with with air with air support or drone power. And we can get everybody out. And that's all you need. What did Joe Biden do? Cut off air support and drone power, and we can get everybody out, and that's all you need. What did Joe Biden do? Caught off air support and said, we out. Yeah, look, I mean, if you stop doing what you need to do to get the airplanes flying, you're not going to have the airplanes.
Starting point is 02:03:16 They're not going to fight as you train them to. And it's just a lot. It's just, it's entirely predictable. This did not have to happen. Now, maybe they would have fallen eventually or they would come to some political arrangement. They were supposed to under the Trump deal. They're supposed to have a political arrangement. And maybe they would have made a different one if they remained a valuable army.
Starting point is 02:03:39 I haven't looked. But how many people have been killed in the last four days in afghanistan well i don't know so so there were a lot of people saying we don't have the numbers yet someone super chatted i don't have confirmation saying there's a bit so i don't want to say just yet until i can get confirmation but it might be bad and it's mostly afghan citizens like all the americans got out and they just left everyone else no there's still americans on the ground like 10 000 yeah there's a bunch. All right, my friends, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, and go to TimCast.com.
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