Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #355 - Biden Facing 25th Amendment REMOVAL But Kamala UNFIT Say Voters w/Delano Squires

Episode Date: August 20, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join podcast commentator on Fearless with Jason Whitlock and journalist at The Blaze Delano Squires to critically examine how Republicans are attempting to bring up the issue of th...e 25th Amendment in regard to Joe Biden, the effectiveness of the vaccine, according to new data from the CDC, how African-Americans are hesitant about the vaccine and whether that makes vaccine passports truly racist, the state that's requiring staff and teachers at schools to be vaccinated, the Trump-hating chemistry teacher who was fired for her inflammatory views, and the socialist magazine firing staff for attempting to unionize. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So a couple of days ago, 25th Amendment was trending on Twitter. And considering the ongoing chaos that is the Biden administration right now, many people are still wondering if this is the moment that they finally hand off the mantle to Kamala Harris, because everybody expected it. You know, even before the election, everybody was like, how long is Joe Biden going to last? And then a bunch of people said, you know,
Starting point is 00:00:23 as much as I want to believe he wouldn't last a term, he'll probably make it to the end of a term and then maybe he won't run a second term. And then there was a period where he said he wasn't going to run a second term. And then he's like, no, no, I'm going to run a second term. And so now you've got the White House chief of staff not doing interviews. Kamala Harris not saying she doesn't want to be talking about this stuff. Joe Biden does one interview where he apparently lies left and right. And this is just, I mean, it's just absolute chaos what we're seeing. You've got analysts coming out. You've got former military saying that here's what could have been
Starting point is 00:00:54 done in Afghanistan. They don't understand how it's gotten so bad. So is this the moment where Joe Biden resigns in disgrace or they invoke the 25th Amendment and Kamala Harris steps up? No, probably not. And there's a new poll showing that 55% of the country believe she's unfit anyway. But then what? Nancy Pelosi? Then what? I have no idea. This is what happens when people vote. They didn't vote for the lesser of two evils. They literally just voted against. They didn't vote for anything. I'm like, even when you're voting for the lesser of two evils, they literally just voted against. They didn't vote for anything. I'm like, even when you're voting for the lesser of two evils, you're still assuming that the lesser is somewhat better for some reason. But Joe Biden wasn't. He was literally just a body. The Atlantic wrote that article. Stay alive, Joe Biden. All we need is your corporeal form.
Starting point is 00:01:38 So when it's Donald Trump, people said, I will take literally anything. I'll take a ham sandwich. And what do you think happens when you put a ham sandwich in charge of a withdrawal from Afghanistan? Joe Biden knew what he was getting into. He said he wanted to run for this. So we got problems. We'll talk about this, though. We also got news on the vaccine front. Obviously, these mandates are spreading.
Starting point is 00:01:56 They're hitting schools. Oregon now is mandating it for teachers. I'm getting messages from teachers saying they're going to be quitting. I'm getting messages from truck drivers saying they're done because they're not going to risk going into cities where they can't use services or facilities unless they have a vaccine. It sounds like this is just a big recipe for disaster. But we'll get into all this stuff. We are hanging out with Delano Squires. How's it going, man?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Good. Thank you for having me. Do you want to introduce yourself, tell people what you do? Sure. My name is Delano Squires. I am a contributor for The Blaze, regular contributor on Fearless with Jason Whitlock. I've been writing for public consumption for over 10 years. Started off with Black and Married with Kids and went to The Root and The Griot a couple years back.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Made a transition, started writing for The Federalist, and now I'm with The Blaze. Also a scholar with 1776 Unites Project. And, you know, I'm a dad, husband, homeschool dad. And, you know, just like to. So the root. Yeah. To The Blaze. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It's a big jump. It is. Probably the only person in the country who can say they've written for The Root and The Blaze. But, you know, it's because you learn, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I think a lot of the issues that we talk about are issues that can be come at from a number of different perspectives. And I tend to write a lot about family and faith and education and social issues, issues in the black community.
Starting point is 00:03:21 But trying to approach them oftentimes from a biblical Christian worldview. So, you know, that's my story. Cool. Right on, man. Thank you. We got Ian. What's up, everybody? Ian Crossland over here. Happy to be here.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Good to see you, dog. Thank you. I'm in the corner pushing buttons for this show, as usual. I'm really excited for this conversation because he's a homeschooling dad, and we don't get those very often. So I'm stoked to hear what he's got to say about the world. I'm a big fan. Absolutely. How old's the kid?
Starting point is 00:03:48 I got three. So our oldest is five, and we have a three-year-old, and then we have a one-year-old. So my wife is busy all day long. Homeschooling, though, man, I'm a big, big proponent. Oh, me too. Well, we'll get into it. So before we get started, head over to TimCast.com. Become a member.
Starting point is 00:04:04 We're going to have a members-only segment coming up after the show. It usually goes up on the website around 11 or so p.m. As a member, you also get an advertisement-free experience, and you're helping support all of our fierce and independent journalism. We have no big billionaire backers or anything like that. Our backers are literally you guys who are members, and that has really rubbed the mainstream media the wrong way because I get these hit pieces where they're like,
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Starting point is 00:04:43 Share the show with your friends. Let's get into this. Let's get into this. Let's get into the failures of what's going on. And I'm not going to dwell too much on the 25th Amendment, but I did pull up this article I find very funny. It's from Vanity Fair's Hive. They said, Republicans who stood by a presidential lunatic
Starting point is 00:04:57 are now demanding Biden be removed via the 25th Amendment. They were fine with Trump trying to overthrow the U.S. government, but insist Biden must go. I really love the framing because I don't I don't think anyone was fine with Trump overthrowing the government. I think that's just a very unfair way to look at what was happening. But let's move forward to why Joe Biden's being criticized in the first place. We're going to talk more about what's going on with Afghanistan. Biden versus reality from the
Starting point is 00:05:24 Daily Mail. President falsely stated that the U.S. has no troops in Syria when there are 900, and the Afghan military had 300,000 troops in a series of lies and bungled statements in an ABC interview. Biden said there was no way to leave Afghanistan without chaos ensuing. But six weeks ago, he said a Taliban takeover was highly unlikely. He said the U.S. doesn't have a presence in Syria, but 900 troops remain. The president took questions from the media for the first time in over a week on Wednesday in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos. Yeah, but was he actually making himself available to all press?
Starting point is 00:05:56 In one bizarre moment, Biden seemingly brushed off Afghani stowaways so desperate to flee, they clung to departing U.S. plane before falling to their death. and now we've got the white house chief of staff who apparently is not doing interviews but is getting criticized because he's tweeting a bunch of far leftists on social media you got jen saki on vacation kamala harris says i don't want to be talking about this stuff man what's going on with this administration dude not enough but too much so that's a good way to put it i mean this week has been rough for the Biden administration and just us as a country. Regardless of how you feel about the war, a lot of people feel like, you know, one, we should have gotten out of there, but not in the way that we left. And certainly shouldn't have left people who helped us behind.
Starting point is 00:06:40 But even more importantly, definitely not leaving Americans behind. So that's the craziest thing about it yeah yeah we've got 15 000 americans still in afghanistan and this is one of the things i kind of you know when when biden said that i think it was biden who said this right in the in the interview with with abc that there's 15 000 americans that are still there they can't get them out because they can't get to the airport and that kind of like i had this moment where my heart kind of went like bump bump, bum, like big, because I was like, you know what's going to happen in the next couple of months.
Starting point is 00:07:09 The Taliban's not going to be like, oh, American, right this way. Here, we've got an escort for you. They're going to be like on your knees. And we're going to start seeing videos of this stuff. And then, yeah, I agree. I'm hoping the Taliban is more scared of losing any kind of international recognition, which I don't think they're going to get in the first place. And considering the stuff we're already seeing out of there, it really does feel like they might try to be like, no, no, Americans, we're being peaceful. You can go.
Starting point is 00:07:35 But I don't see them getting the recognition. I guess one of the things they're saying now is that the U.S. has accepted Saudi Arabia and they basically want to do the same thing. So what's the problem? I don't know, though. You know, I think there may be some hope in that they're scared of the U.S. still. And so they're like, just get the Americans out of here. But 15,000, how many of them might be contractors? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:56 How many of them may have crossed the Taliban in some way? And they're going to be like, not this one. And then we start seeing these videos. So why didn't the Biden administration hard mandate evacuate Americans before the withdrawal? You know, they left Bagram Air Force Base in the middle of the night. They just ran out, left everything. Wow. The conspiracy theory is that they wanted to make it such a poorly executed withdrawal that it makes people want to go back.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Like, you see how horrible it was that it makes people want to go back in later. They're doing it. They're sending in more troops. Whether or not it's intentional, but it's really, really bad. Dude, watching the people fall from the airplane was really, really guttural because I remember watching the people fall from the World Trade Center. They were hanging out the window, and they jumped out because they didn't want to burn to death.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And it's like bookends to this stupid. And we're coming back in 20 years. That's crazy, dude. All to get Osama bin Laden. And they invaded the country. Like, what? It obviously wasn't to get Osama bin Laden. They didn't have to invade the country to do that.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah, someone should ask Bush what's going on. There's a really great meme where it's three Spider-Man. You know the two Spider-Man meme? Yeah. It's three. And it says, you know, like, Biden, Trump, Obama, and they're all pointing at each other. And George W. Bush is painting the picture. Dick Cheney, really?
Starting point is 00:09:09 He was he ran the military at that point. But Halliburton, his company, what was his role at Halliburton? Was he the chairman of the board or the CEO or something? I'll give Biden. I'll give Biden this respect because he said it's in his speech that he didn't want to pass this this this failure off to the next presidency because that's what Obama did. Obama got it from W. Bush, and he promised he was going to end all of this stuff, and instead we got more troops.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And I think one of the big reasons was he didn't want it to happen under his name. He didn't want the failure to be on him. He passes it off to Trump. Trump says, okay, we're drawing down. I mean, it was Bush, Obama, Trump. Trump says, OK, we're drawing down. I mean, it wasn't it was only it was Bush, Obama, Trump. So Obama receives the you know, he inherits this war and then it just keeps going. He keeps it going. Trump inherits it and says, we're ending this now. We should have ended it a long time ago. Biden says, you know what? I'll follow through. He screwed it up bad, real bad. So but do you think Obama didn't want the failure to be on him? Or
Starting point is 00:10:05 do you think he was afraid that if he pulled out of Afghanistan, we may end up getting an attack on our soil, so he'd rather fight them there than fight them here? I don't believe that because there was this report that came out a long time ago that said one of the main drivers of terror in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:10:22 is what the CIA called blowback. That the U.S. operations in the Middle East over the past several decades had created the anger and animosity which resulted in the targeting of the U.S. So with, like, the U.S. funding of the Mujahideen and then meddling in these countries and Iran and things like that, you end up with groups saying they're going to come after us. Staying in Afghanistan, I suppose it makes sense, sense though because they're so preoccupied fighting us over there they don't come over here yeah but i think that i we had the patriot act we buffed up our security we locked everything down to still then be worried about it just goes to show the security measures were probably pointless yeah well so so one thing that that this entire um saga particularly over the last week has made me me think about, and I hope it makes other Americans
Starting point is 00:11:05 think about, is that democracy is not the natural order of things. It's not everyone's default. It doesn't necessarily work in all parts of the world at all times with all people. And I hope it's made Americans rethink what we call oppression because real desperation looks like somebody hanging on to the landing gear of a cargo plane from Afghanistan to wherever they were going. Not, you know, some Hollywood actress who's pampered, who, you know, somebody writes the wrong name on their Starbucks cup and they say, oh, my gosh, or not some athlete who sees a police shooting 4000 miles away and they don't have the facts. And they say, oh, my people are so oppressed, because when life really gets that difficult, you see what desperation will drive people to. And I hope it makes us reassess how we use language. I'm tired of living in hyperbole nation where everything has to be catastrophized. It's like, no, we can deal with our issues without using the same words to describe light inconveniences here that other people use to describe actual tyranny over there. Yeah, absolutely, dude.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Right on. I mean, so many people in this country think that every slight offense is the apocalypse. They got to film it. Someone said a naughty word to me on the street. It's like in this country, some dude was fleeing for his life and gripped to a plane. You want to know the craziest thing about that dude on the plane? He was 19 years old. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:39 There are multiple people. Yeah, there's a couple. The two people who fell. One of them was a 19-year-old kid from Afghanistan. And you want to know why that's crazy? He's younger than the war. He does not know a world in which the Taliban was Afghanistan. He was born into this country under U.S. occupation.
Starting point is 00:12:54 He grows up in that system. And then overnight, overnight, within a month, it was like a one-month collapse. You saw this going down. And then really escalated at the very end in the past few days. And all of a sudden you've got Islamic militants, something he doesn't understand and never lived under, saying it's this or else. So he was like, get me on that plane. Yeah, I'll take the or else.
Starting point is 00:13:16 You know, a lot of people pointed out that these are fighting-age young men who should have stayed and fought. I think that's half true. It is true they're fighting-age young men. They should have stayed and fought. The that's i think it's half true it is true they're fighting age young men they should have stayed and fought the problem was you know i was reading this op-ed they said a couple things there's two different ones the biden administration pulled air support as soon as they lost that was the centerpiece of the military strategy so the afghan security forces were like what what do we do now we have no it was maintenance i guess we
Starting point is 00:13:41 have no way to maintain our air force because we don't know how to do this. And the other was the abandoned Bagram like overnight. And so all of a sudden the security forces are like waking up one day with nothing. And they're like, uh, that was like an abrupt, massive shift overnight. Yeah. So all of a sudden they're overrun. They don't got the ammo. They don't got the support. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 These people do not care about civilian life. They don't even care about their own military life. They got us into a war recklessly and got us out of the war recklessly. So many hundreds of thousands of people have died. Their families have been tarnished. This 19-year-old kid probably knows somebody that... I think it's for money. I think it's for opium.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I think that's why they did that is for drugs and oil. I wouldn't make it so specific. I'd just say power. That opium trade just blew up in the last two decades, the opium. I agree. But the way I would phrase it is I don't think they're looking at their bottom line and calculating opium. I think they're just like, what's the money? I don't care what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:14:47 A person is worth $100,000 each. Peds, civilians, pedants are worth $60,000 each. So if we kill 3,000 of them, that's $1.8 million. But we're going to make $60 million in heroin. So easily that's a good deal for us. Plus all the opportunity cost that's gone when you don't have to feed people i mean it's it's terrifying this is what governments have been doing is deciding who lives and who dies and but they they're so when they become aggressive
Starting point is 00:15:15 then they create situations where they have to make that choice but they created that situation i could this is like a deep spiral into madness for me. I mean, I don't think. We're out though, you know what I mean? So as much as I can be really upset with the images we're seeing and now the potential of these 15,000 Americans, I still think it was right to get the troops out. And so it's a challenge because if you knew beforehand that Biden was a moron, and we did,
Starting point is 00:15:42 and that this would probably be seriously screwed up and we could all assume that would we still do it and i think the answer is yes however i think there would have been there there had to have been some kind of i don't know man how did he not listen to any like his intelligence was bad the admit it's chaos so it's a tough question yeah everything we're seeing right now i'm curious as to how this experience in the last 20 years how they will reshape our politics both domestically and our foreign policy i'm curious as to you know what america's role on the national stage what role we want to take in terms of nation building you know as the world's policemen i wonder what the appetite will be
Starting point is 00:16:32 for that from either political party um i i think this could be the beginning of the end we got we got what like 25k troops in korea or you know a certain amount in japan we got soldiers in germany how long until this all this we're seeing results in americans just being like we shouldn't be doing this what so if we really do see like a red wave backlash to biden that results in trump coming back in or someone like trump and their trump was saying get our troops out of germany like why do we got troops in germany that makes no sense germany's fine. They can handle their own security. What happens when we get a Trump who's just like, how many of you think
Starting point is 00:17:08 we should be focused on America first? And then you get people just screaming, yes, because we're sick of this foreign intervention stuff. And then what happens? Trade-offs. It's easy to say that. You bring the troops home. Everybody says, yes, we can focus on our domestic problems. But as you see,
Starting point is 00:17:24 whether it's the influence of china or other countries growing in other areas people start to say okay these other countries are not doing the same thing they are definitely globalists they want to control parts of africa and the caribbean um latin america what is america going to do and how would we feel as a country if um china let's say china's influence grows to the point where they are basically everywhere but you know mexico u.s and canada is that something that our politicians would want to live with um it's easy to talk about you know sort of a non-intervention as a as a you know political exercise but again when you see the influence of those countries growing, whether China or Russia, whoever it is,
Starting point is 00:18:09 is that something that we can live with? This is the big challenge. So I usually err on the side of anti-intervention. We should mind our own business. We should be building up roads in America. We should be doing these things because those are the first, the immediate and the obvious problems to address. But then I'll remind everybody, and I'm not trying to say it's right to invade other countries.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Not at all. But keep in mind, during the Cold War, you had the expansion of communism. This is despotic authoritarianism. They were massacring people. I mean, you look at what's going on, what happened in Cambodia. You look at what happened in Southeast Asia. All across these countries, what happened in Cambodia. You look at what happened in Southeast Asia, all across these countries. It was a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And so the U.S. was their mentality. It wasn't just blindly like, we're going to go steal money. It was like, if we sit back and the communists keep expanding because they're militaristic, they're taking over. In 20, 30 years, it will be impossible to stop them. We either confront them now or in 30 to 40 years, they surround us on all sides, look at us and say, now you're done. And then they control our trade. They control, they influence us. And then we fall to them. So the Americans didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Now with Afghanistan, it's not the same thing. It's not like China's literally going to, you know, it's not like, you know's it's not like china's literally gonna you know it's not like you know communist russia's massive expansion but china does they are working with the belt and road initiative they are expanding so it's probably more strategic and therein lies the scary question if the u.s doesn't have any kind of international presence do we just wait until china surrounds us so so ultimately i just have one more fun final to that, the U.S. was expanding and surrounding everybody else. They viewed us the way we view them right now.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Interesting. The way you described it, as you were talking about Russia's expansion, I said, that's the cultural world we're fighting. The groups that are influenced by Marxism and leftism of one
Starting point is 00:20:06 sort or another are always looking for territory to capture yep and unless you know there's pushback from everyday citizens and and a lot of people look to the republican party i don't know that they are astute enough to understand the game that's being played i say that because oftentimes they mouth the same slogans they they chant the same things they seem to have the same worldview they don't understand how they're being used yep and unless there is a pushback in 20 30 years there will be no space left everybody will either have to be you know trading bitcoin and and doing uncancellable jobs right so if you you know if you trade options or if you are investing it doesn't really matter what your politics are but if you have a job in the private
Starting point is 00:20:53 sector and you're one of the people who says no i don't want to fly the flag i don't want to put up the the the state party's uh official slogan you're going to find life very very difficult for for yourself. That's a good point, actually, trading. Because it's just you log in, but then what happens when your bank bans you? That's true. When your credit card shuts down. Or your social credit score drops below a certain level.
Starting point is 00:21:21 I mean, conservatives better start opening some banks and libertarians. It's indicative of a vulnerability in the system of centralized banking that any one person would ever have the power to stop other people from banking. I think this is where the vaccine passports are going. Social credit scores. I think so too. Let me pull up this story we got from the New York Times. This is it. CDC data
Starting point is 00:21:39 right now. Vaccine effectiveness against infection may wane, CDC studies finds. Federal health officials said the new data justified a campaign of booster shots, but some scientists disagreed, saying not every American needs another dose. What's the problem? It's just a vaccine, right? Why are you mad, Ian? It's just a little piece of paper.
Starting point is 00:21:58 You already got it. You might as well just show it to them. Well. Who cares? It's just an app. You already got a phone with apps on it. Just download the app. Every vaccine is different.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Ian, it's just a booster shot. Talk to your doctor. It's just an app. You already got a phone with apps on it. Just download the app. Every vaccine is different. Ian, it's just a booster shot. Talk to your doctor. It's just a booster shot, okay? Look, there were four lines on it from the beginning. What's wrong with a second booster shot? Got to get boosted. Look, some of these people who are not vaccinated are spreading COVID, so we set up a quarantine zone. What's wrong with the quarantine zone?
Starting point is 00:22:21 It's just a camp. That's the way things roll oh yeah so in australia you know they're building the quarantine hub in uh in the u.s last year the cdc announced shielding i we've we have talked about it before we didn't talk about it last show and then people reminded us the that the cdc proposed their shielding plan which would create camps for people who are at risk it's like I'm pretty sure the unvaccinated people are at risk. I mean, look, if you talk to your doctor about what makes sense for you. But I think I honestly don't think the vaccine passports are really what it's all about. I think it's about getting you to download the app and then them having the tracking
Starting point is 00:22:58 and requiring the ID for you to get into a building. Interesting. You get your smart ID things coming up with those RFID chips on it. I definitely think they're trying to centralize and control and spy on, is that the right word, observe your behavior? Well, they are. So that you can't commit crimes. Your phone is spying on everything you do, man.
Starting point is 00:23:16 That's crazy. Yeah, it's really weird. I mean, the satellite tech is getting really good, too. They can listen to you from space, listen through your walls and stuff. I don't know if that's common, but that's – With lasers? Maybe, yeah. I don't know what kind of radio waves they fire.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Well, so, look, I'll say it again. We've had a lot of conservatives on the show, and the media accused them all of being anti-vaxxers. It's not true. A good portion of them have been vaccinated and talk about why they thought it was a good idea for them. Many of them are having to be older. So you go and talk to your doctor and you figure it out. And we had Kurt Schlichter on the show. His doctor was conservative.
Starting point is 00:23:51 He talked to him. They wanted the numbers. He made the choice for him. And that's what I'm all about. I'm about informed consent. But now we're being told he's got to have booster shots, right? So when you combine that with the four cities that are doing the vaccine mandates and with the boosters, I think they're saying now that with the booster,
Starting point is 00:24:06 the effectiveness goes back up to like 84% or whatever. Is this going to be a never-ending thing now where it's not just a vaccine passport? It's your up-to-date medical card? Because what else? Once you open the door to that, asking for your ID and for proof of some kind of medical history, at what point do they just start adding more and more things to it, like outside of disease?
Starting point is 00:24:27 It doesn't make sense because if it's a virus that's mutating and it's also in the animal population and you can't kill it with a vaccine, so why would you chase trying to kill something you can't kill? It doesn't make any sense. Well, I guess some people were saying that although there there are animal reservoirs for covid they haven't transferred back into humans i don't know if that's true that's just one of the arguments i saw online that but we can we can just say this i mean variants are like dr fauci has been all over the place all over the place how can we track what we're supposed to do it's like hey youtube i'm
Starting point is 00:24:59 trying to be a good little youtuber here i want to make sure people are safe i don't want to give medical advice what am I supposed to do when Fauci comes out every other day with something different? Yeah. I just saw an article from the New York Times
Starting point is 00:25:08 says those anti-COVID plastic barriers probably don't help and they make things worse. And they were saying it forces the air to like stagnate and then the viral load increases
Starting point is 00:25:19 because the air is not circulating. Yeah. Ding dong. Weren't they saying before that it was like on surfaces and they said it wasn't on surfaces? Yeah and i think a lot of people particularly early on said you know what we're still learning about covid we give the government some leeway you know the
Starting point is 00:25:34 guidance changes we you know we want to trust our public officials i told my friends once the public health officials decided that um 10 000 people in the town square to protest over, you know, the George Floyd incident or racial injustice, generally speaking, once they decided that was OK, but a church couldn't meet outdoors and its 50 members couldn't meet outdoors, the game was lost. And nobody would ever trust either the elected officials or the public health bureaucrats, because it was clear that they were using this virus for partisan means. One, to get obviously to get Trump out of office and two, to, you know, sort of bring onto themselves a certain power that obviously they don't want to give up. And you can see that hypocrisy all throughout last year. People saying, you know, kids kids can't go to school but their kids are having in in-person instruction in private schools yeah
Starting point is 00:26:30 you know saying again you you can't meet you shouldn't get together with your family for thanksgiving or christmas but you know them allowing you know people as i said to cram the public square so i'll say this last year. I want to say it was August. The church I was going to in D.C. sued the city to allow it to meet outdoors, socially distanced, masked on its own property. And they weren't allowed to do so. At the same time, the city issued a permit for the sort of march on Washington. But they had like 10,000 people, you know, downtown. And when I saw that, I was like, nobody's going to listen to these people anymore. And I think once the public health officials and elected officials who constantly flouted their own rules, once that became public, they lost the most precious thing that they needed to manage this pandemic, which is trust.
Starting point is 00:27:29 And I don't think they'll ever get it back again. It's true. But if you look at New York right now, man, these businesses are saying, you know, we're just following orders. They're going to do it. Yeah. And I mentioned this before. I'll say it a million times because this is one of the craziest things. I've never thought I'd see something like this. Bill de Blasio's mandate means every business in New York must terminate any employee who has a disability barring them from getting vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:27:53 And there's a lot. There's a lot of different illnesses or ailments or disabilities you could have that make it impossible for you to get this. Yeah. You're fired. Yeah. This is fascistic beyond all recognition so i think a lot of people have seen what was going on and they and they want to say no to this so in many areas they probably are just saying like i'm not going to do it but you look at
Starting point is 00:28:16 new york and people after all of this are still just saying well i'll do whatever the mayor says yeah yeah people are starting to revolt in france did you guys see any of that video oh Oh, have you seen the videos, though, where like the cops are walking up to people at the restaurants or when they try to go to a supermarket? Now they're being barred from going in a supermarket. Yeah. And then I saw one where the crowd was rising up and yelling at the cops. Yeah. There was no blows struck, but it's getting hot and it is getting started.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah. And I think, again, i'm trying to think about long term what this political realignment can look like right so for a lot of conservatives who may not have been as open to um assertions from their left that the police are heavy-handed and particularly in communities of color they are getting a taste of what that feels like. So when you're at a game and you're supposed to be masked outdoors and you're not, and the cops come in and force it and you say, I don't want to wear a mask. And then next thing you know, you're on the ground and being tased.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Now you can get a sense of what other people were saying. And I think what you're going to end up seeing is sort of a coalition building of folks on the right who are typically pro-police but are definitely anti-government lockdowns and mandates along with you know folks who may be on the center left who say the police have had expanding powers and too much authority for a lot of years and i think you're going to see that coalition sort of form pretty soon i think so we did see uh we did see a little bit of the right pushing back on cops at the height of the lockdowns last year you had uh i think nypd were refusing to enforce lockdowns so they brought in troopers there was this guy at
Starting point is 00:30:01 a bar he was open but giving things away for free they're like we don't care they they blocked the entrance and you had a lot of uh you had videos of some conservatives throwing the the thin blue Troopers. There was this guy at a bar. He was open but giving things away for free. They were like, we don't care. They blocked the entrance. And you had a lot of – you had videos of some conservatives throwing the thin blue line flag on the ground and then stomping on it in the dirt in front of cops. They weren't having it. All of a sudden churches were being shut down. Cops were defending it. You had the mayor of New York paint Black Lives Matter on the street without approval from the city, just taxpayer money, and 27 cops defending it. And so that's all okay.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And they were arresting people who protested it yeah so eventually i think you know maybe maybe it's a cold wake-up call to a lot of people on the right that cops will just follow the orders yeah yeah you know michael malice has a pretty bold we'll just call it bold quote where he said there i'm going to paraphrase because i don't know specifically but there is no law so depraved a cop will not enforce it up and up and to executing innocent children. Well, now that's Michael Malice is a very, very bulletin because I'm I don't necessarily agree. Like, I kind of think a cop is going to be like a Soviet Union experience. Right. Right. And so i think i
Starting point is 00:31:05 think what people need to realize is you're look you're thinking about a cop right now a cop right now is not going to do it he's going to be like get out of here dude are you crazy like come on we got a line but a cop in five ten years when the good cops get purged out when they mandate vaccines for everybody and then you start getting skeptics and hesitant people or people with disabilities being like i don't know about that, when the military says it. And now you've got – whether or not people are right or wrong in their decision, they make a decision. And then the military says, bye, you're out of the military. Now you've got an increasingly woke authoritarian kind of military.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah. Then you will get a cop who will gladly enforce. Because it's not – what Michael Malice is saying is the way I interpret it. It's not about cops as the individual. It's about the institution and what they will come to represent should things get to that point. I hope we don't get there. No, we lived in an armed society. It would be very unlikely that the police would throw themselves into that.
Starting point is 00:31:58 They've been trying to take our guns. I love it. Yeah, which will conservative say this. They'll say, look at the head of the FBI. Not FBI. The ATF. You know, he he wants to ban AR-15s and anything with a capacity over 10 rounds. And that's I think I've learned a lot. I have to have had to go back and rethink what it means to be an American, what our founding documents mean, what the Second Amendment means.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Right. I get people say for hunting and and self-defense. I get it. But tyranny really is not something we've had to think about as a country legitimately for a pretty long time. And as I said, on the left, tyranny, and particularly, and I'm thinking, particularly in African-American community, will say police brutality, police overreach. Tyranny to us is assault on our physical bodies. For conservatives, a lot of time, tyranny means the IRS is coming after me.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It's very different. I think we're starting to see more people wake up and say, you know what? The government is inserting itself into our personal health decisions. It is trying to control how we educate our children. It is trying to control whether and how and where we make a living. And eventually people are going to get tired of that. And the same military folks who may get purged, that's how you get people who are disaffected and become more radical than they otherwise would have been if our government would just let us live like free people.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Well, speaking of what's going on in politics and, you know, elaborating on this segment, we have an article here from the blaze will joe biden and ibram kendi save no vax blacks from jab crow attacks donald squires so but but this is the general idea i guess is around like vote around voter id being racist but now they're demanding ids in new york you want to just let it tell us what the article is about which sure sure so it um articles about a couple things one i started off thinking about ibram kendi and his assertion that any policy that produces um disparate or or inequitable outcomes is in and of itself racial racist so if there's a particular public policy and it impacts black people black and hispanic people more than whites and Asians, then that policy is racist.
Starting point is 00:34:26 But then I also thought about how Joe Biden at one point called a proposed law in Georgia that would require, among other things, would require an invalid ID to vote by mail. He said that that law made Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle. And I said, oh, OK, so I could see these two partnering up and saying that vaccine passports, particularly the New York City policy pushed by de Blasio, which which would have a disproportionate effect on black communities because only is less than 40 percent of black New Yorkers are actually vaccinated. vaccinated um i expect ibram kendi and joe biden to both say that jab crow is totally unacceptable in america in 2021 and that this policy that is going to produce disparate you know racial outcomes is in and of itself racist right and ibram kendi if he did that that would mean he would be calling some of his biggest supporters on the left racist the people were pushing this um and i'm just curious as to whether or not these two will stand on principle um or whether they will sacrifice you know their sacred cow of racial equity come on
Starting point is 00:35:36 on the altar of political pragmatism they're not gonna come out and say anything no i love the jab crow though that was that was brilliant yeah you know but joe biden might but he might not um not legitimately what might happen is because of the backlash he might then be like oh yeah well you know we're always saying id you can't do that so in this instance if there's enough outrage then he might just find it as an excuse to be like oh here's why i pose it's not about vaccines you know he can save face in that regard right and say oh i am for people getting the vaccine and you know wanting to have that security but you know we can't have ids to get in buildings yeah but see but but i think part of the issue and this is why you see the media pushing
Starting point is 00:36:17 the narrative of the unvaccinated being white evangelical trump voters because they don't want to tell the truth which is nationally again Again, black Americans have lower rates of vaccination than other groups. But if they can make vaccination into a white evangelical conservative issue, then it's a lot more palatable for people to say we want to enforce vaccination with vaccine passports. This is crazy, too, because for a long time they were saying they wanted to roll out the vaccine program based on race. They wanted minorities to get access first because they were under vaccinated. And people were like that. That to me was kind of a.
Starting point is 00:36:53 So I'm I'm I'm I'm very much philosophically behind universal health care. I just don't know if we can possibly do it. That's the big challenge. But the idea that somewhat that we could we could pay lower rates, save trillions of dollars because everybody's pitching into a functioning system it sounds brilliant right until you learn that what does the government do once they have the ability to regulate health they do it based on race no i i don't think that's a good idea to give the power to government they do things like that so one of the things i talk about in the article right is you know, when I get
Starting point is 00:37:25 serious and I get past the sort of tongue in cheek stuff about Jap Crow, is this is actually a perfect example of why Ibram Kendi's philosophy of anti-racism and racial equity will never work. Because what you've seen in this rollout is, to your point, whether people agree with it or not, an emphasis on providing vaccine access to low income black and Hispanic communities, all out public awareness campaigns to get those communities vaccinated, making the vaccine free to everyone, putting vaccine centers right in the heart of communities in the neighborhood I was living in in D.C. There was one by the grocery store that they're at cvs is all over the place and you still see um different rates by group in terms of vaccination so one of the things i talk about is a principle i call it
Starting point is 00:38:17 principal because that's what people do they name stuff after themselves and um it's fairly simple. The premise is this, that government control has a direct relationship with the perceived success of any policy. But individual agency has an inverse relationship because the government is good at certain things. The government can say, we want to build new rec centers in all the low income neighborhoods. They have the resources. They have the political will. They can do that. What they can't do is guarantee that we're going to reduce diabetes and hypertension by 75 percent because that has to do with how people eat, how they exercise, and how they rest. Now, they can do things on the periphery, but ultimately, the more policy
Starting point is 00:39:01 requires individual agency, the less successful it's going to be from the government's perspective. Well, so you still have the black community less vaccinated than other racial demographics, even with all of these programs. So there's no policy solution, is there? It's cultural. Or what is it? Part of it, and I know people who work in government don't like to hear this, but sometimes people don't want the things that you want to give them for one reason or the other. Because as adults, as rational adults, people make decisions. They may say the risk of me getting COVID and a serious bout of COVID and the worst type of symptoms is not worth me
Starting point is 00:39:40 taking this particular vaccine. Now, we may agree with the decision or not, but it's their decision. But that's something that the left has a hard time with. Right. They think if we think it's social good, everybody else should. And instead of trying to persuade, be honest about facts, answer questions honestly, you know, take a nuanced approach. They say, you know what, we're done with the error of persuasion. We're into coercion and force. And that's what the vaccine passport is. That was a good point you made about how if they feel as a social good, everyone else must as well. It's bigger than that. It's that they believe their worldview is the same than every single person. And so to them, here's what I often bring up, which plays your point as well. If I was given a free place to live, I'd take it. Therefore, all homeless people need only be given a free place to live and homelessness is solved. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Except I've worked with homeless shelters. And you know what you get most of the time when you go to a homeless person and offer my shelter? Sir. No. Sir, we have a vehicle waiting for you right here. And they're like, I got stuff. I got friends. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:43 This is where I live. I don't know you. I don't want to be anywhere near you. I don't care about your house. You know, people who are used to living outside are not, you know, I guess you've got young people. They're naive and they must genuinely believe like, well, who wouldn't want to have a bed to sleep in? Some people like their sleeping bag under a bridge. I'm not exaggerating. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but they, that's what they know. That's what they're used to, and they feel safe there. And so the left just assumes every homeless person is actually just a down-on-their-luck, out-of-work, laid-off guy holding a sign saying, we'll work for food. Lack of affordable housing. Right. And so the solutions they often
Starting point is 00:41:17 offer up are, hey, how about we put vaccination centers in all the black neighborhoods? That way they'll get vaccinated. And then they don't because they're not actually addressing the community's needs or or desires in any meaningful way other than just some bland policy position that doesn't solve the problem yeah it's not it's not like it's a black person white person thing they they horribly guffed this whole covid experience for every human like i don't think it's a racial has anything to do with race about how we are questioning i do think that like look look it's a critical thought maybe maybe that's is that inherent in the black community critical thought like critical race theory it's a joke i don't know we're genetically different but like critical but like no no not that different i i think race plays an obvious role in um how communities form we see it with immigration
Starting point is 00:42:06 people choose to move to areas where like you know you end up with a chinatown you end up with a little italy yeah maybe it's not maybe race isn't not the right word maybe ethnicity or something yeah we're the same race or its culture is probably a better like familiarity probably is a better way to put it so so i know in the beginning a lot of the talk around quote-unquote vaccine hesitancy was around you know you saw articles on the Tuskegee experiment and the history of black communities with the health care professions. I'm not saying some of that doesn't exist. Right. But again, people make decisions for all types of reasons. I don't think every black person who doesn't want to get the shot is doing it because of the Tuskegee. I don't think they're doing it because they don't have access to it.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Some people just say, I don't want it. But for whatever reason, that's an answer that some of our elected officials just cannot stomach. They won't allow it. No, these people, they must be vaccinated. And that's why you see actually this morning, this was going around on Twitter. Ari Melber was quoting the Notorious B.I.G a song from way back he was talking about you know what's beef
Starting point is 00:43:10 and talking about you'll end up in the ICU and Ari Melber was trying to link that to not getting the shot because if you don't get the shot and you get COVID you may end up in ICU and a lot of people who I follow on social media were like what is this guy talking about it was bad to appropriate biggie's lyrics to push you know your particular agenda
Starting point is 00:43:31 is not something that is going to convince anyone so again i can't answer for why everyone chooses not to do it but to your point people should consult their medical professionals and they can they should make a decision that makes sense for them. I agree with you. I don't think most of the problems that we talk about as racial problems are racial problems. Again, I come with a biblical worldview. I believe there's one race, many ethnicities, many nationalities. But in our country, that's the way we tend to think about things. And I think people like Ibram Kendi have made that even worse. And that's why it was a shot at him.
Starting point is 00:44:07 It was sort of tongue in cheek. I just want to see if he's going to stand on his own principles. My guess is that he won't. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'd make a gentleman's bet. It's an industry to protect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grievous industrial complex.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah, that's good. Did you come up with that one? I like that one. Other people say it, but I was saying it before they said it. Right on. That's a good one, too. Grievous Industrial Complex. Yeah, that's good. Did you come up with that one? I like that one. Other people say it, but I was saying it before they said it. That's right. That's a good one, too. Grievous Industrial Complex. Man, that's big.
Starting point is 00:44:30 We have Critical Race Applied Principles. Well, now... It's pretty good. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Have you heard that one? Critical Race Applied Principles? I have not. That's actually one of our super chatters said that.
Starting point is 00:44:39 Interesting. So, you know, in schools, it's Critical Race Praxis. Yeah. And they put the theory into Praxis. And I'm like, we need an A in there for the acronym. And someone said critical race applied principles. Yes. And we were like, yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 00:44:51 We have this story, though. Let's talk about how it's going to hit schools. We got this from Fox 12 Oregon. Brown announces COVID-19 vaccine mandate for Oregon K-12 teachers and staff. K-12 school employees in Oregon must be fully vaccinated by the fall, and health care workers will no longer be able to test for COVID-19 weekly as a vaccine alternative. So there's a couple of things here that are big. One, they used to say if you don't have the vaccine, you can get a negative test.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Now that's gone. You can't do it. I also don't believe that there are medical exemptions in any of these, which means teachers who have underlying condition, you're gone. Wow. So this is now affecting our schools, and that means what's going to happen? Are parents going to take their kids out of schools? Some.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I mean, across the country, if you've seen an uptick in homeschooling across the board, I think you're going to see that continue because, again, last year we were all dealing with covid. Everybody sort of went through the stages. There was a period of time where people were sanitizing their groceries when they came from the store. But now I think we have a better sense of the virus. We have a better sense of the different treatment options. I don't think parents are going to stand for another year of distance learning, universal masking, mask mandates, vaccine mandates. So I think some parents are going to pull the kids out. Some are going to stay and fight. It's interesting that this is Oregon. I think their governor just relaxed some of the graduation requirements in terms of literacy and numeracy in the name of equity. Again, it's always in the name of equity. And this doesn't surprise me in the least bit, but it's so curious.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And I try not to be a conspiracy theorist. But when you see the emphasis on our COVID response being basically one of two things, masks and vaccines where's the discussion of you know longer-term solutions you know diet exercise other you know healthier lifestyles therapeutics different treatment options it's as if the elected officials and the commentators think it's either you wear your mask you get vaccinated or you're going to end up in the icu and you're going to die and i feel that's a really bad way to have this discussion nationally. There was a crazy thread on Twitter where some person claimed to be a pharmacist, I don't know if they were, said that they refused to fill a prescription for ivermectin.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And they didn't know what the prescription was for. And then they said they called the doctor to verify, and the doctor said, you know, I'm the doctor, you're the pharmacist, you fill it. And again, I'll say ivermectin is not FDA approved. It's going through studies. Some people are optimistic. Some people aren't. There's studies that say it does nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Ultimately, I just think, what your doctor prescribes, man, I'm not going to get in the way of that. So it's not FDA approved. Go to your doctor. You can talk about what you can do. But to see people on Twitter as pharmacists, or at least claiming to be saying that they would reject any prescription they disagreed with i was like man didn't we have this conversation long ago about birth control where the pharmacists were like it's against my religion to give this out so i'm choosing not to and then they were yelled at for it i think if a doctor says he
Starting point is 00:47:58 knows what's best for you i'm not going to get in the middle of that yeah but these schools man to go back to that i actually think this is a really really good thing i think the more people we have homeschooled the better i think institutionalized learning facilities are very very bad and so this might backfire on these these government institutions in that parents might just say what can we do to solve this problem yeah the school's just getting crazier and crazier yeah pod learning you you've heard about like the pods they do where they do where a bunch of neighbors will have their kids go to one private tutor who will teach them. That sounds brilliant. But you're a big homeschool proponent.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Yeah. Tell me about it. My wife and I homeschool. We had our daughter in a public charter school for about a year in D.C. We decided to go in a different direction. We love the flexibility that it offers. We love the ability to make our home the center of productive activity, productive economic activity, spiritual activity. So, you know, the ability to spend quality time with our children, particularly when they're young, to pour into them our values, our worldview, and to really
Starting point is 00:49:04 teach them because we believe that education is equal parts scholarship and discipleship. And when you look at the left and some of the crazy things that go on in schools, I think every parent should ask themselves, do I want these people discipling my kids? So I think, you know, again, I'm a huge fan, a huge proponent of home education for very principled reasons, because I think this is where the right gets it wrong on school choice. I believe in school choice. I think education is the responsibility of parents. They may delegate their responsibility to schools in loco parentis,
Starting point is 00:49:40 but the schools think in loco parentis is Spanish. They think it means these parents are crazy, so it's our turn to take over as opposed to Latin, which means in place of parents. are becoming increasingly partisan from the schools of education that train teachers to the actual admins on a local level, down to the classrooms where teachers are expressly saying we we are looking to train, you know, the next generation of activists. And for me, when I look at a lot of these larger urban school districts that in many respects, honestly, are failing our kids and particularly low-income kids i'm asking myself you know what's the point of you know helping jamal be an activist if he needs karen to write a sign you know so to me again as i said this is where parents can take some control but in order to do that we need to talk about other issues, and some of those have to do with family and family formation. My wife and I can do what we're doing now because we're married, right? We have our kids together.
Starting point is 00:50:53 We are pulling in the same direction. But homeschooling may be a lot more difficult for a single mom who's raising her kids if she has to go out and work. So I think that's where community institutions can come in, churches or other faith-based institutions can say, we have a couple of educators on staff. You all can bring your kids here. We'll teach them in whatever curriculum we think is the best, and we can support families in that way. Churches, man.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I think a lot of people who might have not grown up with religion don't understand the power of a church in in the sense of you see people and that's really yeah i mean you go there and then you see your neighbors and you know my experience is always like people would be talking before and after you needed help with something people would be there for you yeah some young men would you know some dad would be like oh my kids will help you clean out your garage won't you boys and they'll be like, yeah. And then they'll go. And so you have that community.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Now what do we have is we have neighbors who never talk to each other. There was this ad. I don't know if it's real. I just saw a meme. And it's like a New York subway ad or something where it says bad. And it shows two faces talking to each other. Then it says worse. And then it says better.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And then it shows two people wearing masks talking to each other, and then it says best. And it's two faces looking down, not talking to each other at all, one on the book, one on the phone. And I'm like, that's a nightmare. So our buddy Luke, who's been on the show quite a bit, he made a video a long time ago on his YouTube channel where I think it's called Just Keep Going, Got Nothing to Lose, where he said he's lived in New York his whole life. And every day he goes on the train, and he realized that none of these people ever talk to each other no they would look at each other so everybody's head is down so he decided just to start talking to these people and asking them questions about like what they think and it's like a really moving video i got a million views and this is back in the day so it did really
Starting point is 00:52:38 really well that's a really good example of you know when when when you're trying to figure out how to teach your kids, family structure. Because if you don't have two parents or a single mom can't do it, she can't afford a tutor either. She's probably not making enough. Unless she's a single mom and she's got a really great job, which probably exists, in which case, pods. Fine, hire a tutor.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Have all the kids sit in a classroom like normal. Yeah. So actually, I wrote an article for The Blazeze last week that talked about you know family in this way it talked about it actually linked together a story about nick cannon and his views on marriage being eurocentric um critical race theory and some of the crazy stuff going on in schools and then covid because imagine you're a woman who's about to have you know either you've you've had a child recently or you're looking to go back to work and your employer is saying, you know, you have to take the vaccine. So if you're pregnant, you're like, I don't know if I want to take it. Feeling the pressure to take the vaccine or lose your job potentially, that's a pretty difficult decision to make. And the point I was making in an article is that, you know, when couples, again, have the benefit of marriage where, you know, they are, as I said, pulling
Starting point is 00:53:50 together in the same direction for their mutual benefit and the benefit of their children, it gives them options. You know, a wife could tell her husband, I don't want to do this. You know, I'm tired of whatever's going on in my workplace for one reason or the other and they have options that you know other other families don't have so i was making you know the case for marriage as as not just a social good but also you know a very sort of practical arrangement that's not typically how i make the case about marriage but it also does have practical benefits and i think you've seen that during the pandemic. And we have a lot of activists who want to disrupt that.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Yeah. That was one of the messages from Black Lives Matter. Tell me about it. Don't get me started on that. I'm trying to get you started on that. It seems so destructive to hurt a family. Yeah. I mean, part of it, when at the point where Black Lives Matter said that we are trained Marxists, people should have listened to them.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Yeah, I thought you were going to say they should have shut them out. No, you're right. They should have listened to them. They should have done that, too. Yeah, but that's why I'm a big believer in worldview. Regardless of what it is, you should know what a person believes, because that that'll give you an understanding of why they believe what they believe so when marx talks about abolishing the family because he understood that the family is not just where children you know received their moral instruction but is also a vehicle for passing down private property um and he wanted he wanted to take the kids from their parents and dedicate them to the state right so. So Black Lives Matter, you know, has a similar vision in their black villages principle before they took it off their Web site because they started to get a lot of heat for it.
Starting point is 00:55:36 They talked about wanting to disrupt the nuclear family requirement that, you know, requires mothers to do X, Y, and Z. At no point do they talk about fathers or husbands because in their world, those people don't exist. And that's why I would make an argument that, you know, BLM is only interested in black men to the extent that their, you know, dead bodies help further their political goals. And that's not the type of organization I would, there's under no circumstance what I as a black man get behind any organization that says that they want to disrupt the nuclear family at all, under no circumstance. They removed it though, didn't they take it off their website? Yeah, they got a lot of heat, but they had their principles on their website for years. And once they started to grow in prominence last year and people started to pick up on it,
Starting point is 00:56:22 and some people would ask them questions questions particularly on the conservative media side um now they never got to ask questions from don lemon or roland martin or any of the other media that they did you know sort of the corporate um legacy media but once they started to get those questions they scrubbed it because they knew that that was a very very unpopular take but i think people they knew that that was a very, very unpopular take. But I think people should understand that that organization, you know, those principles were a reflection of their worldview. And that's why I ask people all the time, if you started an environmental organization and then I go to your principles and you never mentioned the environment, that should be a red flag. So when you say you're against police violence and in your 13 principles, you never mentioned police violence, men, boys. It's all about, you know, being queer affirming, transgender affirming, woman affirming, black families and black villages that erase husbands and fathers, that should have been a red flag to people. But for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:57:25 our society just they take whatever the top line is and they run with it. Yep. Corporations. They said, hey, this is safe. Let's run with that. And you get a bunch of people living in New York City who work for advertising firms. So they're the ones who make those decisions. Yeah. You see how that ended up.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Let's swing it back to schools real quick. We have this story that's been going around. Utah teacher no longer employed after advocating vaccination and telling students she hates Trump. Alpine school district said that kind of behavior will not be tolerated. The video of her sharing her opinions in front of a class at Lehigh High School on Tuesday was shared widely on social media. And by Wednesday morning, the second day of the new school year, Alpine School District in Utah County confirmed she wasn't employed there anymore. Spokesman David Stevenson said in a statement that he cannot comment on personnel matters and would not say whether the teacher was fired, only that she wasn't working there now.
Starting point is 00:58:17 She had originally been put on leave Tuesday while the district investigated, quote, this behavior is inappropriate, not reflective of the professional conduct and decorum we expect of our teachers and will not be tolerated. Have you seen the video? I haven't. I've seen people sharing. I didn't get a chance to watch it. I don't agree with this. I would have loved to have been in that class.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I watched this video. She wasn't screaming at people. She was just giving her opinion and being loud she was treating the kids like adults they're high school kids they're not school children and so you had you had some you could hear some guys arguing with her and they were saying like no no like you know blah blah and she's like well that's dumb you're dumb and i'm like man i would have killed to have had a teacher debate me or argue with me about politics in school treating me like an actual you know like human being instead of just, no, shut up.
Starting point is 00:59:08 You're stupid. Moving on. Do as I say or else. She was actually talking to these kids. Now, her opinions are dumb. They were really bad. I just think about what would have happened if it was the other way around, where a teacher comes out and says, kids, listen. You've got to think for yourselves.
Starting point is 00:59:21 You've got to plan ahead. Just because the media is saying Trump is bad doesn't mean he is. Right all of a sudden they're like oh no the teacher so i'm fine with the teacher you know to a certain degree talking to high school kids about you know about their opinions and allowing the kids to talk back i mean i am too but but you said she called them dumb for challenging her she did okay so that's a little bit different right right right i'm all for critical thinking i'm all for inquiry i'm all for critical thinking. I'm all for inquiry. I'm all for kids, particularly of a certain age, challenging, pushing back on their teachers. But when the teacher still has a role of authority in the classroom,
Starting point is 00:59:57 so it'd be different if she said, let's engage on this issue. But if she's calling them dumb, that to me indicates that she is trying to shut down discussion, not encourage more of it. I But if she's calling them dumb, that to me indicates that she is trying to shut down discussion, not encourage more of it. I just think she's dumb. She didn't say, shut your mouth, stop talking. She actually engaged the student and she wasn't talking over...
Starting point is 01:00:15 There's a bit of argument and stuff. But I'm like, man, I'd love to be in a classroom where the students are being like, here's what I think. And then she's like, well, I don't think. Me too. That sounds like a good thing for these kids to see that and to see these people challenging it. Granted, I still think maybe at the end of the day, teachers shouldn't be going to classes to argue politics with their students, whether it's for or against Trump. It wastes everybody else's time.
Starting point is 01:00:39 So listen to that. Exactly. And so as much as I would have enjoyed arguing with the teacher and her engaging me, I think the kids are there to be like, look, we're going to talk about math and everything. You can talk to your parents about the political stuff. I've certainly got my things. You can set up. You can go in and talk to the teacher after class if you really want to shoot politics
Starting point is 01:00:56 and talk about politics. Yeah. Sorry, go ahead. No, no, go ahead. She is a chemistry teacher. I don't really think that she ought to be talking about politics. Do you? Honestly.
Starting point is 01:01:06 She squeezes in Trump stuff, you know. So now we're going to be dealing with, we have sodium here. And of course, Trump's a salty MF-er. That guy sucks. And anyway, that's sodium chloride, by the way. Sodium chloride or table salt. And salty like Trump. And I'll tell you what, that would be funny. I would enjoy that, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:21 The issue I had with school was the callousness, the cold, the condescension. So I watched that video and I'm like, man, my schools were just like, shut up, you're dumb, moving on. For her to be like, well, that's dumb or you're dumb, I'm kind of like, yeah, but she's talking to him and he's talking back. So I think that's like one thing we need to do with kids is treat them like they're adults and not treat them like they're stupid babies. I mean, I agree with that. I will say this. One, I'm surprised it's utah if you said uh right right boston or you know philly or portland or something like that they did fire her yeah she she did say
Starting point is 01:01:56 a couple things that i think warranted discipline she said uh most of your parents are probably stupider or you're you're probably smarter than your parents or your parents are dumber than you or something like that. And she said, don't listen to your parents. You don't have to listen to your parents. See, that was the line. That's where schools get into trouble, where they try to undermine the authority of parents. And again, that's one of the big things that I think may draw people to home education is because in many respects, everything that we've seen play out in the last year, I think has been a struggle over authority, where we see the state set itself up
Starting point is 01:02:35 against citizens who say, my job is essential. If you, Mr. or Mrs. Governor, are drawing a check during the pandemic, why should I have to forego my pay? When you've seen churches and local governments get into struggles over whether churches can open. Right. Again, an issue of authority. Who from church's perspective, who is the higher authority? Is it Christ or is it Caesar? And as it relates to education, it's school setting themselves up as a higher authority than parents. Listen to us, right? We know better. We went to school.
Starting point is 01:03:10 We have master's degrees. Don't listen to your parents. And I think for whatever reason, parents have accepted that that is the natural order of things in college. But when schools start doing that with kids as early as three and introducing them to things that their parents don't necessarily know about. I'll give an example. In many school districts, if a child sort of exhibits signs of not even gender dysphoria, if the child says, I'm questioning my gender, the schools will allow a child to socially transition. They'll use a different name, different pronouns in the school. But then not only will they not tell the parents, when the parents come around, they will call Jimmy Jimmy in front of his parents. To hide it.
Starting point is 01:03:54 To hide it. And I think when you start to open those types of doors, all different types of things can come through. We had a woman on the show. She was showing us a bunch of books, the critical race applied principle books. And one of them was, it was called, was it Not My Idea? Not My Idea.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And it was Azra. Yeah, Azra. Not My Idea. Oh yeah, I know Azra. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen the book Not My Idea? I have not, no. It's this little girl
Starting point is 01:04:17 who looks like she's six or seven years old. And she says like, one day mommy was watching a video on the computer of a policeman. And then when I came up, she covers it and you it and something like that. And then later on, there's this – they show this picture called the whiteness contract or whatever. It's a contract with a devil tail, and it says you'll steal from your neighbors and whatever.
Starting point is 01:04:36 And then she says – at the end, a little girl is in the car and starts screaming, no, you're lying to me. You're lying to me. Tell me the truth. I know the truth. And the mother is like, oh, no, what's happening, okay, I guess I'll tell you the whole book was basically priming children to defy what their parents were teaching them, we have seen these teachers post these videos where they say, we are going to teach your kids things you don't
Starting point is 01:05:00 want them to, there was the gay men's choir, viral video tongue in cheek whatever they want to call it they said we're coming for your kids over and over again thinking it was funny but then they said like all the things you don't want them exposed to we're going to expose them to and their friends and everything and it's like dude parents have a right to choose for their children what's best for them you do not own these kids yeah but that's that's the saying the left doesn't have any kids they have yours that's good yeah that's good even you know there's a there's a show that my kids like um it's called bubble guppy so if you got any parents out there who have young children they'll
Starting point is 01:05:33 know what it's what it's about and they had rupaul voice over a character um in one of the episodes so the whole show takes place underwater so the characters are like you know mini mermaids and fish and stuff like that and at one point one of the characters. So the whole show takes place underwater. So the characters are like, you know, mini mermaids and fish and stuff like that. And at one point, one of the characters, they were talking about getting dressed during the day. And they said, yeah, it's a real drag. And you could tell that, you know, they're trying to let the kids, the adults in on the joke. Right. And in terms of the analogy that I would use is that there's a lot of different ways to to cook a steak. I'll say it that way. Right. But when you first pull it out of the fridge, it's not ready for frying pan. So you can pulverize it or you can tenderize it and you pulverize with policy and you tenderize with culture. And really what the left is trying to do in terms of their tenderizing is marinate us in these things.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And they want to get the kids in as young as possible. Because when you're being marinated, you know, the spices and, you know, the aroma and it smells good and you think it tastes good but those fibers that have been so tough and and so um unforgiving for a long time are being sort of broken down and that's how you get people who are open to ideas whatever the transgression is because left is all about subversion of any sort of social norm um and i think that's what you're seeing and that's the reason why they think it's appropriate to have RuPaul on a show for kids from two to seven years old. We covered the story. Australia is building alternative quarantine hubs with relocatable cabins, they call it. Sounds like a camp, right?
Starting point is 01:07:18 And so the idea is that, oh, the hotels weren't working, so we're going to build a hub for people to quarantine in, and we're going to have color-coded communities so that we know what area they're in. And we had people on Super Chat saying, oh, come on, Tim, we tried quarantining people in hotels and it wasn't working, so we're just making something more efficient. And I'm like, yeah, that's called incrementalization. It's where they're like,
Starting point is 01:07:40 you are now defending the camp because it's within your reasonable boundaries. And the funny thing is, I've long explained the function of moral manipulation through what's called – it's resetting a person's boundaries, right? So the way I describe it is imagine there's a scale of negative 100 to positive 100, and then you're at zero. Negative 100 means you absolutely despise a person to the point where you would physically harm them and positive 100 means marriage in a family you're at zero a person's reasonable boundaries only go from negative 10 to positive 10 you can only so what that means is you can't walk up to a random person and say you know go hit that guy they're going to be like what i'm no i
Starting point is 01:08:19 don't know this or go kiss go kiss that that person right they're going to be like no i that's that's insane but you can say slightly in one direction or the other like kiss that person, right? They're going to be like, no, that's insane. But you can say slightly in one direction or the other. Like, hey, that person called you a mean name. Or, hey, that person made a nice compliment. And you move them within that boundary. After a certain amount of time in that space, their boundary is reset. Oh, yeah. So this is how they incrementalize you, right?
Starting point is 01:08:40 If three years ago they announced we're going to be building a major quarantine camp with relocatable cabins to house high-risk populations, people would be like, what? Right. But you start with the hotels and then you go, oh, no, the hotels, it's such a disaster. And then people go, well, just build a place then. You're right. We'll build a place. It was your idea. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:09:00 That makes more sense. Yeah. And it depends on who's building it. If Trump was building the hotels. Oh, yeah, right. That makes more sense. Yeah. And it depends on who's building it. If Trump was building the hotels, it would be a very, very different reaction than if Biden builds them. So I think what you described is sort of the Overton window put into practice for people. And I think a lot of us have been moved in one direction or the other. And you can see it's almost like for some people, they have a desire to be controlled by the government, right? It's like they're looking well. And I found this
Starting point is 01:09:32 particularly after people started getting vaccinated, where I would hear people say, I'm fully vaccinated, but I'm double masking while I'm riding my bicycle and nobody's around. In the woods. I was like, well, why would you do that? Well, some health professional said I should. I was like, don't you think you have the ability to make your own rational decisions? And it's unfortunate because I think, again, all of these things are linked because a lot of us have not learned to think critically, to challenge authority, you know, in whatever respectful way, whatever that looks like.
Starting point is 01:10:07 And I think you're starting to see the byproduct of that, you know, in our country. You were mentioning, you know, you had written for The Root at one point. Would you consider yourself to have been a leftist at that point? I've never been a leftist. No, I've always had what people would deem traditional views. I'm conversant in sort of, and at that point when I was writing for The Root, I would say they were more liberal than leftists. They've definitely taken a harder shift now,
Starting point is 01:10:32 I'd say over the last seven years. But you had critical thinking capabilities, seemed like a smart guy, and so you were just sticking to your principles and what you think makes the most sense. When we talk about the leftists and the socialists i don't think you know critical thought no extends very far no there are some people i've met who have been fairly smart and are just wrong but there's a lot of people who just i gotta pull up this story
Starting point is 01:10:57 we got a good one from newsweek. Magazine, Current Affairs, fires staff for trying to organize workers' co-op. How many times do you need to see these stories to realize that these leftist institutions, magazines or media publications, they claim to be progressive or have socialist values. And then the moment someone tries to unionize, which is like a core tenet of labor rights, they fire these people. You know what the funniest thing about it is? For me, they would call me right or far right or whatever, and I'm like, more power to my staff. I don't care or whatever. I really don't understand why the Young Turks did it. They had that story where some guy was trying to unionize, and Cenk Uygur is screaming at him, slams papers on the ground.
Starting point is 01:11:43 And I'm like, you guys are the progressives who advocate for this. So let me just read a little bit and then we'll dive in. The founder of the socialist magazine Current Affairs has reportedly effectively fired several staff members after they tried to organize a workers' co-op, former employees claimed in a letter on Wednesday. The letter, which was addressed to comrades by several employees of the print and digital magazine that focuses on topics from a left-wing perspective, said they had been effectively fired by the founder, Nathan J. Robinson, who has also authored a book, Why You Should Be a Socialist. Is that grifting? Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:20 In a tweet accompanying the letter, managing and amusance editor Lita Gold wrote, I am grieved to tell you that Nathan J. Robson has effectively fired me and most of the current affairs staff because we're trying to organize into a workers' co-op. This isn't a bit. I wish it was. Wow. I don't think these – I guess what he said was that socialism in practice is a lot easier – or I'm sorry. In theory. In theory is a lot easier than it is in practice. So why would you fire them, though?
Starting point is 01:12:49 Look, I run a company. We've got employees. And when these stories have come up, I've always thought, like, I don't understand why these people care so much. Yeah. as you know some experience working in the government unionization is is a is a you know a tricky issue because in some respect yeah you know collective bargaining and and you know the benefits of being in a union but oftentimes it makes doing work somewhat more difficult which is why i think one of the reasons you see a lot of left-leaning institutions fight against charter schools is because charter schools typically don't have unionized teachers the teacher unions don't
Starting point is 01:13:30 have as much power over charters as they do over government schools so I mean I could see how it gets complicated an employer might feel like you know if if their staff unionizes that they are going to lose some power, which they very well might. But the irony, the delicious irony is that this happens all the time with the left. I think you've seen it with defund the police. Yeah. I'm thinking my mind always goes to Seattle where the mayor allowed, you know, radicals and anarchists to take over you know part of her city and she said you know chop chop chaz is a summer of love until a member of the city council marched them to her house then she shut it down like the next day you see this all of the time where it's like they make rules for for the little people to follow that they don't want to
Starting point is 01:14:25 follow themselves and i think that is one of the fundamental flaws and weaknesses of that particular line of thinking that worldview is that it's always going to eat itself you know what i was thinking i'm just like this guy for the socialist magazine is probably and i mean this to the right of me politically right because as much i think think, look, I can favor certain economic policies, but I really do think, well, I'll put it this way. Idealistically, I'm pretty left libertarian. Realistically, I'm kind of like centrist, like moderate liberal type. Although that's politically homeless at this point because I don't know what makes sense.
Starting point is 01:15:00 But, you know, when I'm thinking about a union forming i'm like yeah i don't care if they come and they're like hey we want all these things i'll be like is it possible okay i don't know why i need all that power or why i need to be debating people if like this is what they're looking for now i can certainly understand when they bring in external unions and then they just you know can meddle in the affairs and all the stuff that i get but i think about like janky huger of the young turks when he snapped at his employees it's because they personally want power right they're authoritarian right they're capitalists pay more power to them right but they're masquerading as progressives right i mean the same thing going back to blm right they by the end of 2020 patrice colors had
Starting point is 01:15:42 i think she had a deal with Time Warner she had amassed a pretty impressive real estate portfolio I mean the leaders were living pretty high on the hog and it just goes to show you that capitalism in our country as imperfect as it is and really a lot of it is
Starting point is 01:16:00 corporatism but let's for the sake of argument capitalism is so powerful in this country that even Marxists can find a market and make money off it. Yes. Capitalism is so powerful that even the socialists are capitalists. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you saw that. So for all their talk and whether it's them or Colin Kaepernick, I mean, these are some well-heeled revolutionaries.
Starting point is 01:16:21 That's for sure. It's true. It's like a revolution in the revolution. They decided, you know, we can just make money doing this. It's like the Ibram Kendi thing you mentioned. He's not actually going to come out and be like, hey, this ID thing is wrong. No. I mean, there's a great opportunity for him to like, think about this.
Starting point is 01:16:36 If he was principled, so maybe he will do it. I don't think he will. Maybe he will. I don't. Could you imagine? He has an opportunity right now to come out and say, I told you this. I told you the state would do this. de Blasio is racist and he's an opportunity right now to come out and say, I told you this. I told you the state would do this. de Blasio is racist and he's doing it right now.
Starting point is 01:16:48 And in fact, people would probably be like, de Blasio is racist. We don't like him. And that's part of the reason I wrote the article because I would be truly curious to see whether he would take such a principled position or any of his acolytes, not just him. He may not do it, but to see anyone who believes in his version of quote unquote anti-racism, I would love to see them actually take that principle step and say, we said that any policy that has disproportionate impacts on different ethnic groups is racist. This one has it. We're calling it racist and we stand by it. Imagine getting to stand up at a press conference and say we warned you
Starting point is 01:17:26 yeah we begged you the government would do this and it is a democrat who did it to our in our faces you'd you'd have you'd have just like look at look at look at we're right but they don't want to do it because then they're actually going up against their political agenda right and i mean talk about strange bedfellows if ibram Kendi ends up being the patron saint of the right's anti-vaccine mandate push. Right. If he is on a stage with Ted Cruz and they're both saying we're both against vaccine mandates, we may be against them for different reasons. Yeah. I mean, I think everybody would freak out at that point. See, that's principle. Right. Right. So, you know, i'll take it to um
Starting point is 01:18:05 joe biden he gave that speech on afghanistan and a lot of conservatives are just saying it was bad it was awful then you had clear uh clarissa ward cnn reporter on the ground in afghanistan she's wearing the burqa and she said they're chanting death to america but they're also seemingly friendly it's bizarre and what happened a lot of conservatives cut out the it's bizarre part and only showed the first part. It's very clear when you add the it's bizarre, she was contrasting what they were saying and doing is two different things. Granted, I do think her words were poorly chosen. But in terms of Biden's speech, Cassandra Fairbanks, a good friend of mine,
Starting point is 01:18:39 said she actually thought it was a good speech because he said things that needed to be said. Like we shouldn't be passing the buck on this war. We shouldn't be sending our passing the buck on this war we shouldn't be sending our our you know kids to go fight this but when you're speaking on principle you will often find that the people who follow you get mad because they might be speaking on tribe for tribal reasons so you know following someone like mike cernovich he's he's criticized trump a lot and and the trump supporters get mad at him like oh what happened to you and he's like i'm being honest yeah i'm telling you exactly how i feel as i've always done so if if if kendy and these other critical race theorists were actually functioning on principle they'd have come out in
Starting point is 01:19:12 two seconds and been like no way no no no no no absolutely absolutely and i mean i know there are all different types of policy areas you know know, social, domestic, economic, political, that a person like Kendi could apply, you know, his principles. If Black Lives Matter was really an honest slogan and an honest organization, they would plant themselves in front of every Planned Parenthood in the black community, which Planned Parenthoods typically target communities of color and the same people who will say we're against liquor stores and the people pushing cigarettes in low income black communities for some reason they don't take that same approach when it comes to Planned Parenthood but
Starting point is 01:19:58 Kendi wouldn't do that because in New York City and a lot of people don't know this about half of all of black women's pregnancies end in abortion in New York City. So half of all black babies are aborted in New York City. If you want to talk about something that's systemic, there it is. But again, his his anti-racism is only useful to their position to the extent that it furthers their political goals. So certain things they'll say, you know what, we'd rather talk about these 19 police shootings a year than talk about street crime or abortion or the state of urban education. Those are different issues for a different day.
Starting point is 01:20:40 So I just looked it up on Live Action. Or is it Live Action? Live Action. and they said that black women account for 38 percent of all u.s abortions that sounds really creepy it's true that's true that's true and so so that's why for me i always question i i i think like how uh how do I put this? I mean, someone really has to be doing a number on you for you to think that it makes sense to give 90% of your political support to a party whose central policy, or one of them, I'd probably say the top three, is to keep your population at exactly 13 percent that that's what i was thinking when you started talking about i'm like planned parenthood has been around for a long long time what is it 100 years something yeah and they and they uh i was looking at a map from planned parenthood and
Starting point is 01:21:34 they do have a bunch of minority area centers and i'm thinking like i wonder what the population size would have been for the black and hispanic community if planned parenthood wasn't doing that yeah and considering 38 percent of all abortions that's that's an extremely disproportionate number. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I mean, again, they the Democrats talk a good game about race, but, you know, where they're where their policy priorities lie, because every time a Supreme Court nominee comes up, they don't ask them their views on Brown versus Board of Ed. They ask them their views on Roe versus Wade. So that is one of their central policies.
Starting point is 01:22:12 And for whatever reason, you know, black leaders don't question it. And so I always ask people, I say, do you think the position of most black Americans would be the same on abortion if it was Republicans who were pushing it? If Ted Cruz was the one saying, no, we need more abortion clinics in Houston and Dallas. the position of most black Americans would be the same on abortion if it was Republicans who were pushing it. If Ted Cruz was the one saying, no, we need more abortion clinics in Houston and Dallas, do you really think that black voters will respond the same? And I've yet to get a good answer to that. But that's one of those things where, for me, when I write, part of what I'm trying to do is recapture some of the territory that the left has taken um while while some of the leaders
Starting point is 01:22:45 in my community quote unquote have been asleep at the wheel that's a strategy for conservatives i guess yeah just just come out and be like you know we thought about it yeah they're right keep doing it and then people be like wait but they're racists i mean and all of a sudden like no that's okay we agree that that's the age-old thing right if you want if you want teenagers to stop doing something just get their parents to do it and say, hey, look, we're getting tattoos all over our face. We're smoking six packs a day. We're just like you now. And they'll say, I don't want to be like my parents.
Starting point is 01:23:13 You know, I have a question. They say that what's saying that the path to the electorate and the black community is through the church or something to that effect. Have you heard something like that? I have. I think that may be an outdated way of thinking particularly for younger generations right right right now people let's say you know black voters over 65 who are
Starting point is 01:23:37 still heavily church going i could see that so i mean you saw that in the democratic primary where biden captured south carolina you know on the strength of a lot of older black female voters, many of whom are church going. The younger demographic, that is a lot less the case. So you can see that shift in the civil rights movement from a faith based movement into a more sort of secular, secular humanist movement. BLM has nothing to do. not marxist right and not outright marxist um so so i think for younger generations that's less the case i think in many respects the church has a lot less influence in the black community than it used to i would actually take a more controversial position on why that is, because for a lot of people, they think of the black church as primarily a service provision organization. It's basically the NAACP, but with a sort of, you know, a spiritual twist to it.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I would argue that the black church has lost a lot of its significance because it stopped preaching the gospel. And it's losing people because as more and more black folk got, you know, became more economically independent and more upwardly mobile, the need for a service provision organization went away. And the church's relevance has waned a lot since, you know, Dr. King's age. But I'm sure for a lot of Democratic pollsters, they still think that the church is the way to go. But in 50 years, I would be curious to see, you know, what that looks like. Is that good or bad? Which part? The loss of influence from the church.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Oh, it's terrible. I think in general, the loss of the decline in religious affiliation is bad for the country. And I say it this way. And I realize people have all different types of political views and theological views, and I respect that. I do think that there's a place in the public square for religious people. I think that this last couple of years has shown that there's an innate need in humanity to worship something. For a lot of us, politics has filled that void, that religion used to fill. And that's why you see you know the the sort of political partisanship almost take on a religious feel now i i would sort of make the argument tongue-in-cheek that for the
Starting point is 01:26:13 right that looks a little bit more catholic small c so where you have a figure like trump who almost functions as a pope the things that he says to some of his supporters that he says from his office, you know, ex cathedra are almost like the gospel to them. And on the left, I would liken that more to a more Protestant, small p type of religion, because there's always something to protest. There's always environmentalism. It's racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, and that desire to find something to give my life some meaning. You see that playing out in our in our, you know, day to day discourse on politics and in every other area. So I think, again, as a Christian, I would obviously I am I want to advance a biblical Christian worldview.
Starting point is 01:27:06 I realize other people have different views, but I think part of what makes America America is to have that public square. And I think protecting that, you know, I think of Frederick Douglass. He talked about the three boxes of liberty. He talked about the jury box, the ballot box, and the cartridge box. Was that Frederick Douglass? Yeah. I would have a fourth one, the soapbox. Oh.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Right? And I think having a robust First Amendment where people can come and debate and discuss issues, whether they have the same worldview, the same political ideology or not that's something that we need to to have a healthy functioning republic was that frederick douglas said that cartridge i don't know if that cartridges what oh no definitely had cartridges back in the 1800s yeah the three boxes of liberty i'm not sure if he was the first person to say it but he's probably the most famous person to say talked about the three boxes of liberty. Right on. Well, it's a good quote either way. Man, it just makes me... I think we have a shared moral framework, whatever this faction might end up being.
Starting point is 01:28:15 I'm not a Christian. I grew up Catholic, briefly. I do believe in God, but I have my own weird spirituality and worldview or whatever. But I do have a moral framework that is built upon the traditions of, you know, Judeo-Christian faith. And I obviously recognize that.
Starting point is 01:28:30 And I think a lot of people in America do. And one of the examples I often use is Bill Maher. Bill Maher very clearly holds values that are rooted in a Judeo-Christian moral framework, notably the right of the innocent to be, you're innocent until proven guilty, which is rooted in Blackstone's formulation, which is rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. If there is but one righteous person, I will not destroy the city.
Starting point is 01:28:51 But the woke don't have that moral framework. They have a lack of a moral framework. And so I've been thinking about this for a while, about why it is that they're so diametrically opposed and what the factions really are. And I'm like, well, they don't have a moral framework at all. Yesterday they can say X is good. Tomorrow they'll say X is bad. If enough people say that X is bad.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Right. So there's no grounded moral framework. It's literally just what the group says is so. Whereas for me, I'm like, I don't care what the group says. I know my moral framework. Yeah, yeah. So I think a lot of our political debates are sort of geometric debates. Right. It's about drawing lines. The question is, where is the line going to be drawn and by what standard?
Starting point is 01:29:32 So the left definitely is religious. As I said, it's just that religion may be a religion of self. It may be a religion of scientism or safetyism but the the way that the woke um sort of frame their arguments oftentimes in the religious you know with religious language slavery and racism as original sin right um talking about issues like reparations as it relates to paying off a debt which again draws on on some you know some Christian language in terms of what believers believe that Christ did on the cross, right? To pay a debt for sinners. The problem with the woke's religion is that its God is never fully and finally satisfied. So the Christian believes that Christ paid our sin debt on the cross with his death, burial and resurrection.
Starting point is 01:30:28 But for the left, it's God has never propitiated. There's there's no forgiveness, no forgiveness. So they believe in sin the same way that I do. Right. Micro aggressions. That's what it is. It's, you know, small sins. I mispronounce your name. I thought you were the wrong Hispanic guy in the office. Oh, and now I have to get, you know, smacked on the hand by HR. So they believe in some of the same principles in terms of of sin and offense and atonement is just as I said, their God is never satisfied. And I think you see that saga, that cosmic saga is playing out in our politics on a day-to-day basis. It'll be interesting in 10 years when these kids either – I hear a lot of stories that young kids are anti-woke because they're telling their teachers – who wants to be like their teacher? The teacher comes out and the teacher is a loser. The kids don't view the teachers as like, who wants to be like their teacher? Yeah. The teacher comes out, the teacher's a loser, you know?
Starting point is 01:31:27 The kids don't view the teachers as cool. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think, I mean, there's always, I learned this, you know, taking engineering, like, there's always, you know, you swing a pendulum one way, it eventually is going to swing back. I'd be curious to see what that looks like, you know, where kids. Take on a certain anti-authoritarian strain. Sometimes it's hard to see that. Because when I see kids.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Who are four and five years old. When as soon as they get out of the car. The first thing they're doing is. Reaching for their mask. Even my two year old. Now he's three. At the time he was two. We would go somewhere.
Starting point is 01:32:02 And he said dad where's my mask. You don't need a mask. We're outside. We're in the park. Just go and play. But a lot of our kids areism and all the other things that we've been seeing play out for you know the better part of the last 20 years yeah man well we can be optimistic um to the best of our abilities for sure i'm i'm i teeter back and forth sometimes
Starting point is 01:32:38 depending on what's going on you know there's optimism in you know we already shouted out michael malice shot him. He's very optimistic. He says these people are so dumb. How could you possibly be pessimistic? And I'm like, it's not a bad point, you know. But zombies are dumb and a lot of zombies can overrun a city, you know. That's true. My hope is that eventually people's eyes will open. So whether it's foreign policy in Afghanistan, whether it's people who were saying defund the police last year, saying refund the police this year, all of these issues, the socialist who fires all of his employees who want to unionize.
Starting point is 01:33:15 What I'm hoping is that people see that the people that we think are elites and the smartest people in our society have no idea what they're doing. And honestly, in many respects, like we were talking about homeschooling, nobody has done more to advocate and advance the cause of school choice and homeschooling than the teachers unions. They have done a way better job of promoting homeschooling than any GOP politician ever could. So when you see how how just corrupt, but incompetent the leadership class is, it'll make people say, you know what? Why should I listen to these people?
Starting point is 01:33:52 They have no idea what they're talking about. About anything. Well, let's go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, give us a nice little smash that like button for Ian. And subscribe to the channel and share with your friends. We're going to have a members only segment which comes up around 11 or so p.m. So make sure you hang around for Ian. I love tap. And subscribe to the channel and share with your friends.
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Starting point is 01:34:11 to watch it. Let's read some of the super chats. Common sense fishing says a little common sense goes a long way. Like Tim said, get out of the cities.
Starting point is 01:34:20 May I add also learn how to fish. I also have a fishing channel, by the way. LOL Ian and you guys would love a day fishing on a boat. Tight lines. I'd love to just go on a boat and go fishing. I'm not big into them.
Starting point is 01:34:33 My dad used to take me fishing when I was little, and I remember their bulging eyes and gasping for life as I would yank them out. I'm like, what was the point of it? And then we'd throw it back in the water. I was like, why did we do it? He was like, it's fun. And I was like, I don't. So we got this fungus ice cream today. I was like, why did we do it? He's like, it's fun. And I was like, I don't. So we, we got this fungus ice cream today.
Starting point is 01:34:47 I saw an article about it. I'm, I'm, I got the idea. Cause you mentioned the bulging eyes and gasping for life. And it's like, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:34:52 it's animal free dairy. They genetically engineered a fungus to make whey protein. Interesting. And so now it's like, they made ice cream with it. And so I was, I was like, we got to try it. Let's see if it, oh, it's legit. It's called brave robot ice cream with it, and so I was like, we got to try it.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Ew. Let's see if it – oh, it's legit. It's called Brave Robot, and I was surprised. It's like way from fungus is the future. They're going to grow your meat in a Petri dish. I know you're shaking your head. I'll pass. I'll pass.
Starting point is 01:35:17 No, I'm good. You wouldn't even know it if you tasted it. But once I do know it, I won't want to taste it again. Yeah, never mind. Yeah. But that's your solution, Ian. We can make fish protein from a fungus, and then you can just eat that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:35:30 All right. We got Matthew Gregory here. He says, my brother-in-law passed away recently, and a GoFundMe was started to help with funeral expenses. Since I've heard people advertise for businesses on here, any help would be appreciated at Christopher Roten Funeral Expenses. That's Christopher R-H-O-T-E-N. Sorry to hear it, man. I wish you guys the best. Hopefully your GoFundMe works out and people can donate.
Starting point is 01:35:54 That would be fantastic. Yeah. Ameridos America says, take a look at the intro to the game Shattered Union. Seems to have a lot of similarities to what's going on. All right. This one's short but good. Mike Hockey says, I'm surrounded by nuts. I wonder if that's figurative or literal, like you're sitting in a room full of, like, almonds or something. Too many almonds.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Yeah. Okay, what is this? Legamathigian, I think I'm pronouncing that right. Fear Not Comrades comrades the magical unicorn gumdrop rainbow and fairy marxist utopia is at hand dear leader kamala shall lead us to the glorious victory over vile specter of the working class white people capitalism rape culture cis heteronormative patriarchy and male privates beautiful thank you i sent you that last part because they just this is youtube they don't they They don't, you know, they don't like naughty words.
Starting point is 01:36:48 All right. Let's see. Crandall Logan says, amazing news to share, Mr. Poole. I have just gotten my first handgun, the Taurus Judge Revolver. It is a three-inch barrel and a three-inch chamber. It is chambered in.45 Long Colt and two-and-a-half to three-inch.410 bore shotgun shells. I am so excited. I, too, am a owner of the judge and the governor.
Starting point is 01:37:09 I have them both. How do you feel about guns? Do you have guns? Private question. I believe in the Second Amendment. You know, and I think every law-abiding citizen should avail themselves of their rights. So I'll say this. I grew up in New York.
Starting point is 01:37:28 I had a very, very different relationship with guns, firearms growing up. When I was coming up, gun meant someone is trying to kill somebody else, right? Rarely did you hear about people shooting a burglar or a robber. My wife is from Texas. She grew up in a very different culture as it related to guns. And my views have evolved over the years. But I will say this. I think as many, you know, as I do on many issues, I believe in more responsibility for the individual.
Starting point is 01:38:02 And I take my family's safety and security as my primary responsibility so whatever you know tools that a person wants to use to make that happen i'm all for there's a good way to put it yeah aura uh kia reina sounds like she agrees with you and she says tim and almost it's almost like the biden admin did to justify the U.S. going back in. I don't know, but it's hard to believe the government oversight is this bad. I, you know, but Biden. So incompetent. Maybe that's the grand conspiracy was they were like, we need to be believable when we when we screw up so bad we have to go back in. Biden will be believable. The Republicans will call him demented for months. Then when Afghanistan fails, no one will believe it was on purpose.
Starting point is 01:38:49 I don't think it was on purpose. I thinkiden is just yeah not with it he's not there and there's no there's no there's no central force in the decision making process so uh there was i think it was millie who said when they said why didn't you evacuate people through bagram air force base which is a military installation and he said i was ordered to guard the embassy so somebody told him to do something else it's probably biden yep all right let's see james m says blowback tell that to all the afghanis we abandoned and our allies who rely on our protection being willing to fight evil makes us stronger man it's a it's it's a tough situation some people are saying i'm shilling for the the deep state by saying that there's sometimes reasons for intervention which i'm like i'm not necessarily saying it's a good thing i'm fairly anti-intervention and then others are saying like no we have to
Starting point is 01:39:37 defend our allies yo look i'm not the arbiter of morality and truth i'm just telling you what i think and you can tell me i'm wrong all day and night. I'm fine with it. I think you made a good point about how if we just sat here and never got involved, that some authoritarian government would surround us, and then we'd basically be starved out from siege warfare economically. And so we've got to instill. What I want to do, my goal is to instill these values of freedom that we have in the United States across the world to every human, to give them all access to running water, internet, electricity, transportation, food, shelter. I don't know that we can do that politically.
Starting point is 01:40:13 I definitely don't think we can do it through Democrat, Republican, party politics. It's like you've got to do it on an individual level and then show people that, extrapolate the individual process. I don't know. I don't know. But what I heard you say just now, you talked about food, shelter, running water. I hear resources, not necessarily the values of freedom. Because someone would make the argument that a central government right a socialist government would provide those things but so they don't i don't necessarily see having those resources be being provided in every country as necessarily being linked to our understanding of freedom i i think they can be
Starting point is 01:41:00 but um someone would make as i said make the argument that you don't need a free market economy. You don't need liberal democracy in order to provide water, food, and shelter to your citizens. And, in fact, they may say you can provide those things more effectively through a centralized plan government than you can free enterprise. Yeah, we'd like to use the military to build solar-powered water condensation across the world in like desert tribes and cities and houses and stuff like that but forcing freedom i mean good point how do you do that i mean all right we got ted too he says active military the other day we did a brief exercise on care for casualties followed by an entire day of SHARP slash EO training. Soldiers were essentially told they think like rapists and any pushback was steamrolled.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Oh. Wow. Creepy. Wow. I don't like that. Yeah. Taka Nokage says, I can't stop thinking this was done on purpose,
Starting point is 01:41:57 not incompetence. I don't know. Crazy. All right. Handling his razor. Yeah, man. Yeah, for sure. Especially with Biden.
Starting point is 01:42:05 He's proven he's not, know swing dip says just saw your nollie hard flip rewind video i had no idea you could shred like that when will we see a tim pool skate video at the compound i mean we in one of the vlogs i did a hang 10 hard flip and uh you can look hang 10 hard flip up on youtube from my buddy brett novex channel and this is this is the craziest thing. There's a video of me skateboarding when I was, I think I was like 18 or 19. That's from like, it's one of the first videos ever on YouTube. And it had like 5,000 views for a decade. And now it has like half a million or something.
Starting point is 01:42:38 It's a great video. Because people keep getting suggested it. And it's just a video of me skating when I was like a teenager. Wow. And it's not like the greatest skateboarding in the world. It's a few like little you know silly tricks i was doing that's how the value of producing a lot of work if you want to be successful because the stuff eventually if you keep making work one will break you through yeah and then they go back and watch your entire body yeah yeah that's true well you can go watch that i guess but you know we'll we'll get some skate videos at some point. I was actually skateboarding the other day.
Starting point is 01:43:05 I've been rollerblading quite a bit. Something new, something fun. But I was skateboarding the other day, too, because some of the guys out here, we've got more people working. And so we've got some skateboarders. And it's a lot of fun. All right. Let's see. Mac3N says, just wanted to say that your stream yesterday was good, but it hit the feels hard.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Myself and a lot of my army buddies are having issues with the way the withdrawal happened. Keep doing what you're doing. Your work helps people more than you know. Hey, man, really appreciate it. Well, we called out to people we knew had experience. You know, Jack Posobiec, he served, but he wasn't in Afghanistan. And Forrest was an Army Ranger in Afghanistan. And I was like, these would be perspectives that I think would be good, you know, to have on and talk with.
Starting point is 01:43:43 So I talked to Forrest after the show. We were hanging out outside and talking about post-traumatic stress. And he had a very insightful comment about it that a lot of soldiers in combat, combat's the most real thing you're ever going to experience. Everything else dies away and you just see what's happening. You see your buddy freaking out and you push him on the ground and get the job done. And then when you come back here and you see people talking past each other, afraid to be honest, the crap. Like, this is the fake.
Starting point is 01:44:12 And that has this impact on people that people, civilians, don't necessarily know how real life can be. So I empathize with you. Mike Sullivan says, With all due respect tim you say that at least we are finally out we now have twice the troops in the country did a month ago if 10k americans are trapped how many more do you see in the next month you are correct yep so i'll rephrase i think it's good that we're making moves to get out and we should but the problem is biden screwed it up so bad. It almost feels like
Starting point is 01:44:45 it's on purpose. To be completely honest because now you've got people being like like okay okay can we at least stabilize it and then leave maybe in a month
Starting point is 01:44:54 or a couple months it'll turn into forever. It'll turn into another 20 years. You know maybe what happens is Biden resigns in disgrace or is 25th amendmented and then Kamala Harris is like I will not be the one to see
Starting point is 01:45:06 these innocent people suffer. And then, you know, you get more troops and more troops and more troops. We've got the militant Islamic caliphate now is building up there. What are they called? The caliphate of Afghanistan or something?
Starting point is 01:45:18 Yeah. That's what we did to Iran. Little Tales Farm says, Tim, our Ayam Samani eggs hatch in a week. We will record the process for everyone to see on our channel. Thanks for all the good vibes
Starting point is 01:45:29 you send. We love the show and are big supporters of you and your crew. Thank you very much. We have three baby chicks. Two of them are Leghorn
Starting point is 01:45:38 Rhode Island Red mixes. Oh. That's Margaret and Roberto. Roberto's the Rhode Island Red. He's a rooster. And then we have, it's an Easter egg or chicken, but I don't know exactly which one. And so there's a little tiny brown chick, which is very cute.
Starting point is 01:45:52 And then there's two yellow poofy with like, one's got like a little like cool haircut. It's got like black hair. And the other one's got like a little brown spot. And we've got 12, I think we have 11 more eggs in the incubator right now starting a new cycle, which is a really bad idea because winter is coming, which means we're going to have to build a heated indoor space for them. Oh, boy. But that would be fun. Not hard to do, and we can film it, and it'll be fun.
Starting point is 01:46:16 And Chicken City is going to end up with like, what is that going to give us, like 21? Oh, gosh. No, no, 24. Yeah. Lots of chickens. I love the way they run. They're so cute. Follow each other.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Little dinosaurs. So the chickens that we originally raised, we bought when they were a couple weeks old. So they never really liked us. Yeah. You could hold them, but for the most part, they'd get away from me. And now they're adult chickens. And there's only one, Vanessa. She'll walk up to you, and she'll hang out.
Starting point is 01:46:43 And you can actually very slowly pet her. The rest of them just like scream and run and rooster will run up and go like in your face. But because we hatched and are raising these now, they're probably going to be very, very human friendly. And they'll probably hang out and like walk up to you and like, you know, look around. That'll be cool. Chickens are great. They're funny. And they're food. That is true.
Starting point is 01:47:05 All right. The last of my. That is true. All right. The last of my kind says, had a scary moment. I live just outside the city limits of Houston, and city workers went door to door passing out vaccine info, but I overheard them reporting over radio which houses were vaxxed. What? Interesting. Wow. Wow. I mean, I'm not necessarily surprised, but.
Starting point is 01:47:24 All right. Nathan O'Connell says, with the executive branch in shambles, do you think the next move is to quickly pass a bill through to nationalize police force? Any form of wrongthink will get you in a camp or in jail. Last-ditch efforts to hold onto power are coming up next. They need a lot more before they can do something like that.
Starting point is 01:47:41 Maybe the Delta variant, maybe the, was it Lambda or Epsilon? The Epsilon and then Lambda. maybe there's a major lockdown and then they say oh no we have no choice it's hard in america man we got it we got a first amendment and a second makes it very very difficult decentralized police is legit that was something i learned living in chile is seeing the national cops all over the place because they don't have, everyone's a fed. Every cop is a fed in Chile. So if the president says do it, the entire National Police Force acts terrifying. Let it never happen.
Starting point is 01:48:19 John Curry says, Tim, a bunch of businesses in NYC are suing NYC over the vaccine passports. They are not all just accepting it. Yes. We did go over that the other day, and I'm glad to see it. That's a good thing. Hanking around says, Tim, you're glad the troops are out at the risk of seeing an American assassinated every day for 30 years. There's so much nuance to this. The Americans should have been evacuated immediately.
Starting point is 01:48:38 Even Trump has said it. Trump had a plan. He said, first, you get the you get the Americans out. You get you get our allies out. You take the military out and you blow up the bases. That was not done. So now we're in this predicament where, yeah, I guess we have no choice but to send in military. You're right.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Good job, Biden. So look, I'm saying, Biden coming out and saying we should leave is a good thing. Whether or not he actually can pull it off is entirely different. So I can't blame the guy and say he did it on purpose. i can only say he's a bumbling moron who made everything worse and he can go down and go down in history as being just that a bumbling moron and that's all he will ever be although maybe it was on purpose i honestly don't know if i had evidence suggested was i'd absolutely be talking about it zl vxc says my older brother was supposed to go to college tomorrow but his flight from Southwest got canceled
Starting point is 01:49:25 without warning they didn't give a reason as to why oh yeah we have seen many weird things happen with flights so we book guests
Starting point is 01:49:32 all the time you know we have someone coming in every day we had one instance where someone checked into the flight got to the gate
Starting point is 01:49:40 with a ticket and they said you're not checked into the flight you can't get on this plane we had one person whose flight was booked oddly for the same time. His return and departure were the same time.
Starting point is 01:49:52 And then we saw the mass cancellations from Spirit and American Airlines. Stories like this we hear a lot. I'm almost wondering if they're just like, we can't sustain this, just like arbitrarily boot people for whatever reason. There's a fuel shortage. There's a labor shortage. Yeah. So don't be surprised if you see more and more and more.
Starting point is 01:50:08 What was it? The Green New Deal wanted to get rid of planes? No. Yeah, I think that's fine. Unconvenient. And cows. And cows. Yeah, farting cows.
Starting point is 01:50:15 No. All right. Profit Position says, The soccer fields in Afghanistan were used for executions and public stoning by the taliban food for thought when you think about that soccer star wow yep das ruse says professor d in the house my favorite contributor on fearless yes respect das rouse says thoughts and prayers for uncle jimmy Respect. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Das Rouse says, thoughts and prayers for Uncle Jimmy. Yeah. What's that all about? So Uncle Jimmy, who's Jason Whitlock's sidekick on Fearless, came down with COVID a couple days ago. So he's been, he was at home. He did a segment on the show probably, I think, last week. But then he fell ill yesterday. He had to get rushed to the hospital.
Starting point is 01:51:12 But thankfully, he's back home now. I heard he's doing better. And, you know, him and Whitlock are in constant communication. So definitely praying for Uncle Jimmy, hoping he makes a full and speedy recovery. And his two sons who I think are also quarantining with him. Right on, right on. Hopefully they're all okay. Yeah, he's a little bit older. All right. BlackRockBeacon says,
Starting point is 01:51:34 as you said, Tim, unequal enforcement of the law was acting as a sorting mechanism. Vax mandate for government workers, military and police is too. If they won't stand up for their own rights, they won't disobey orders to protect yours. It's a purge. Yeah, that's what's worrying. All right. Along the Watchtower says, if I have to pay to speak on this channel, isn't that our government in a nutshell?
Starting point is 01:51:57 I don't know. Is it pay to play? Yeah, maybe. Yes, technically. Seth Houser says, on a scale of one to 10, how bad do you think it is? In general? 7? 8?
Starting point is 01:52:11 10 being the worst? Yeah. You got to define it. What is it? Well, you know what? Honestly. How bad it is for me personally? It's 1.
Starting point is 01:52:18 I've got probably top.00001% of humans on Earth right now. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like now. Yeah. Yeah. I should correct that. I should correct that. Because what are we talking about? Are we talking about, like, 10 being the apocalypse and 1 being utopia? Because then we're at, like, a 2, basically.
Starting point is 01:52:34 2 was my first thought, was 2. Right. It's like, it's bad. So if we're talking about American politics, like, where 10 is, like, a breaking point, then I think we're at a 9 or a 10. Yeah. But does that mean we're going to be, you know, then there's another scale after that. So honestly,
Starting point is 01:52:47 don't know. Right. Specially catastrophically, 2 out of 10. Yeah. Well, no, I mean... We've got so much tech. War. War sucks. Pollution. Pollution's pretty bad. Ocean acidification. Massive drought. We can withdraw the carbon from the atmosphere and repopulate the ocean
Starting point is 01:53:04 with iron fertilization. There's a lot of technology that's really awesome right now. You know what bugs me a lot about the climate zealot types is that they're missing one of the bigger pictures in this. With the pollution, it's the destabilization of the ecosystem balance. Meaning, it's not about whether the planet gets too hot. It's about whether or not we've produced 0.1% more waste product of this particular element, which is causing a change in density in this area, which then creates a ripple effect. And so what happens is they talk about like, oh, climate change. Conservatives are like, what are you talking about? And then we have people like Chris Martinson on, and he's a doctor.
Starting point is 01:53:43 He's a PhD. And he says people have noticed there's no more bugs hitting their windshields. They did a study and found that over 20 years, substantially less bugs are in the air hitting windshields, which suggests a die-off in the population potentially. There's also ocean dead zones. These things will have a massive impact, so pollution plays a huge role. All the wastewater coming out of the rivers and the ocean creates pockets of death, just nothing there. And so that means fishing. What we're seeing now with fisheries being over fish is jellyfish moving in.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Now people are eating jellyfish. Yeah, that's right. The bugs, apparently the neonicotinoid pesticides are messing with their ability to use their infrared or whatever their thing. But that's not considered their communication abilities. It's not considered pollution. It's a pesticide. But it's doing damage like pollution. If this is actually the culprit, which it seems to be. We got a
Starting point is 01:54:31 Noel and Noel says, this man is leadership material. Oh. Agreed. All right. Along the watchtower says, do schools cover the cost of masks? That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:54:46 That's a great question. I feel like I read somewhere that some school districts were requiring masks as part of their uniform policy. And if that's the case, some may cover, but parents definitely have to buy their own uniforms. That's for sure. Yep. Yep. I think one Texas district made it part of the uniform to bypass the bans or whatever. Matthew Hunter says, Ivermectin is FDA approved under the name stromectol.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Stop saying it isn't FDA approved. That is medical misinfo. Yes, I must correct. Ivermectin is not FDA approved for treatment in COVID. Ivermectin is an essential UN drug for a lot of reasons. So that's why I'm just like, I'm not here to give you any medical advice. But that is a good correction. Ivermectin isn't approved for COVID for treatment.
Starting point is 01:55:32 That's the big issue, I guess. And we've had the debate. We've pulled up the studies. And the studies were not at that point yet. So whatever you want to believe about it, don't take your morality, your medical advice, your financial advice from me. And I'm not a lawyer either. Or any YouTuber. But I appreciate the correction correction that yeah that is important all right let's see jeffrey para says first love you guys and delano left us today remind me of the ori priors from
Starting point is 01:56:00 stargate oh really they are uncompromising and won't hesitate to destroy your life for the slightest disagreement. How can we ever reconcile with them? I don't know how many people know what the Ori are from Stargate. Nope. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:12 If you have groups that won't negotiate. Yeah. What did... Aggressive negotiations, I guess? I don't know. Sebastian Smith says, First time super chatting.
Starting point is 01:56:23 I have a friend in Army Artillery who just got orders to go to Afghanistan with no deployment date, not leaving anytime soon. Interesting. Yeah, I wonder if they're just going to bolster the troops in Afghanistan.
Starting point is 01:56:33 This is the excuse. Trump drew down our forces from 15,500 to 2,500, and now Biden's got his excuse to send in tens of thousands of more. Here we go again. To do what, though? What are we doing in South Korea?
Starting point is 01:56:49 I don't know. What are we doing in Germany? Chilling. Preventing the spread of communism? Is that really the mission? Germany? I don't know. I guess, man.
Starting point is 01:56:59 All right. Ryan says, In regards to Tim's point about some people may be more comfortable in a sleeping bag under a bridge, freedom like a shopping cart. No effects is a real state of mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:10 Have you guys ever been homeless for any short period of time or medium life? I slept in my car for a while. It was incredibly – no rent payments. That was like, wow. But it's illegal. Yeah. I wasn't – if they had come and knocked on my window, I would have been in trouble. I once slept in a parking lot outside of a skate park and i woke up surrounded by cops with their
Starting point is 01:57:29 guns drawn alone and their lights in the car and i'm like i was it was an adage neon and i was wearing like normal clothes and then like i mean i put my hands up and they walk up like unlock the car and i unlock the car and they open it and they're like get out and i get out and they're like what are you doing and i was like i fell asleep and they were like why and i was like i was skating and i was chilling in my car and i fell asleep and they were like okay well you can't be here and i was like i'll leave and they're like okay and then they all okay i was like what what happened like yo i'd park on the side of the road uh put the driver's side seat down and then cover myself with the blankets so that they couldn't see human yeah when they looked at it.
Starting point is 01:58:05 That worked. It's crazy out there. But man, the sense of freedom is palpable. There's nothing like it. You can sleep in your car in Walmart parking lots. Really? It is still illegal, but Walmart allows it. It's called boondocking.
Starting point is 01:58:22 They do because they know that when you wake up, you go inside Walmart to buy your stuff. Okay. Makes sense, man. So they're like, we got more than enough parking lot. So people actually will, like people in like vans and RVs will be like, well, we can't find a campground or whatever. Let's just pull into a Walmart. Walmart's like, awesome.
Starting point is 01:58:38 Especially if you've got like five people in your camper. You're coming in for everything. That's great. Yeah, toiletries, food. Yeah. All of them. All of them. But I was told it was the hotel lobby that made it illegal because they want you to pull over and go inside
Starting point is 01:58:51 a hotel lobby. Alright. Let's get the YouTube to force jump our super chats and then confuse us. Eddie says, when immigrants love the country more than its citizens, then you have a problem i value the usa because it's giving me everything so i think when the afghan people rise up they
Starting point is 01:59:10 will truly value freedom just like the immigrants in the u.s compared to their homeland i hope so yeah interesting bradley says there is an entire generation of afghans that grew up under crony capitalism they are now getting their first taste of sharia law if they want a free country they will have to forge it themselves i heard that definitely johnny knoxville says i don't think it's the real johnny knoxville tim the far left will try and make life so miserable for those not vaccinated that they cave in and get the shot exactly yeah like even even with the lawsuit in new york city how long is that going to take i mean probably at least i was gonna say months months yeah so you can't go out to eat you can you can you can't go anywhere yeah and you can
Starting point is 01:59:59 wait months for a lawsuit to go through so again i'm curious to see you know whether the vaccine mandates the vaccine passports which a lot of people called early on by the way and they were called conspiracy theorists whether that red pills a lot of people i think at the very least what it'll do is that it will increase the contempt that a lot of people have for their government because it's some people will say you know, I can't afford to lose my job. I can't make that choice off a principal. But while I'm getting this jab or I'm showing my passport or I'm showing my papers, it's going to make me hate the people in charge.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Right. And I don't think we've really wrestled with what the long-term consequences are for that. You know, best-case scenario, it makes people take local politics a lot more seriously. Worst-case scenario, it could end up radicalizing certain people and making them go from saying, I'm switching from one party to the next, to saying, I want to be done with all types of government altogether. Yeah, I think a lot of people are starting to feel that way. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Ill Machiner says, Ian, check out Saffordite. It's similar to obsidian. It goes from looking like charcoal to clear with light. How do you spell Saffordite? S-A-F-F-O-R-D-I-T-E. Cool. I haven't seen that one. That sounds really cool, actually.
Starting point is 02:01:21 I got to go to Rock Store. Jake Wilmot says, I got to recommend you have Lucas Botkin from T-Rex Arms on your show. I believe you'd have a great conversation with him. He has shown interest in being on your show before. We will check him out. That sounds cool. All right. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Rafi Bosk says, you guys should look into biogas. You can make your own gas out of food waste for cooking or even running a generator. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah. I've heard about that. That sounds pretty cool. I'm definitely a big fan of reuse. We were talking about building a hanging garden on the property last night.
Starting point is 02:01:55 A hanging garden? Yeah. What does that mean? It's like so we can stagger it and make it vertically. Oh, you mean a vertical garden. Indoor vertical hanging stuff. Indoor where? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:02:02 I don't know. But these are the ideas that get thrown around at the castle. Well, they do have those like greenhouse things you can buy. Yeah. Indoor wear. I don't know. I don't know. These are the ideas that get thrown around at the castle. Well, they do have those like greenhouse things you can buy. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:09 We need to get one of those. We should be really creative. We need to get one of those. And then we can do, because I'm all into this biogas and like just total revolutionizing 21st century homesteading. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:02:20 I am down. Trevor Conley says, Tim, I'm from Flint, Michigan. i've heard you say the water is possibly fixed here it is not fb memes compare jan 6 to taliban thoughts i think those are absurd yeah um and i've had people super chat being like they fixed the flint water already you know it's it you stop saying that i'm like okay well i don't know i don't live there but i'll tell you this it should have been fixed a long time ago. What caused it?
Starting point is 02:02:48 Oh, it's a long story, man. Lead pipes? So let me take you back on a journey. I'll make this story quick. The population of Detroit is shrinking, but the water infrastructure remains the same size. That means the share of maintenance cost per person is getting higher as more people leave so if you have 10 people in a house they each put in 10 bucks to pay their hundred dollar you know plumbing bill and then five people leave everyone's share doubled now they're paying 20 bucks so that's
Starting point is 02:03:14 what basically happened in michigan as people were fleeing the state it ended up you ended up with some of the highest water costs in the country. So Flint was basically like, why are we paying all this money for Detroit water when we got this river right here? Switch. And the river was filthy. There's a lot more to it than that, but, you know. Then you ended up people getting, like, lead in their pipes. They had lead pipes, so the corrosive water
Starting point is 02:03:39 was stripping the lead out, and then kids were drinking it, and it was affecting their IQs. And then you had Legionnaire's disease because the water was really bad. Yeah, I did a chemical element analysis, and there was some weird element we found a lot of. I took samples from the river, a couple samples, and then we found something. I can't remember which. It's been years.
Starting point is 02:04:02 We didn't find lead. Was it selenium by any chance? It might have been. I don't remember which which it was it's been years we didn't find lead was it selenium by any chance it might have been i don't remember it was a it was it was a like we saw like a huge spike in one particular element that we thought was really weird and we didn't expect because it wasn't reported and so the the the researchers were like we don't know if we're confident that this is correct because it's kind of anomalous yeah we have to do it again and i'm like i'm not flying back to flint to test more so i had to climb down to the river and it's kind of anomalous. We have to do it again. And I'm like, I'm not flying back to Flint to test more water. I had to climb down to the river and it's like I was slipping and I was like trying to get the water.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Did they replace all the lead pipes? Is that when they finally said it's out of the system? I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to read up on it. We'll do one more here. All right, let's see. Pat Monette says,
Starting point is 02:04:43 my band used to park at hotels and sleep in the van overnight and then wake up in the morning and eat the complimentary breakfasts. No one ever noticed. When you're a broke band, you gotta do what you gotta do. True. That's right. A lot of people do that. All right, my friends. Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, and do it for Ian. Yeah.
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