Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #358 - Oregon Implements OUTDOOR Mask Mandates, Parents REVOLT w/Steve Bannon

Episode Date: August 25, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join host of WarRoom: Pandemic podcast, former White House adviser and commentator Steve Bannon to break down the renewed Oregon mask mandate for the outdoors, Fauci's misstep in speaking about the end of the pandemic, Bill Maher's progress in red-pilling, Democrat vs independent approval of Joe Biden, Gavin Newsom's proceeding recall, the story of Afghanistan, and the collapse of that country. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was prophesied that on August 15th, parents would revolt when they saw what schools were doing to their children. Prophesied by a man named Steve Bannon, who has returned as the prophecy has been fulfilled. Steve, how's it going, man? Thanks for having me, Tim. Pretty good call. Yeah, you were right. It wasn't that hard. I know.

I agree. You and I talked. It was not that hard. You knew when they had the CRT issue and then the mask issues you knew when kids were going to come back to school the mothers of america go whoa whoa what are you doing vaccines mask social separation what's happening so but okay it's actually bigger than i thought it was going to be really really yeah because i think this firestorms i think it's very big and i think the way they try to gun deck the um the fda report yesterday and not have full disclosure on really

what was going on. Let's get into that stuff. We have a couple other stories, too. Obviously, we'll talk about Afghanistan. We've got... Something going on there? I think so. We'll Google it.

Maybe we'll get a snippet from CNN and see what's happening. But we also have Oregon implementing outdoor mask mandates. But of course. Right. We're headed back in this direction. We got New York. You know, New York's vaccine mandate has no medical exemptions. That means on September 3rd, every company must fire their disabled employees who can't get the vaccine.

That's how draconian this is getting. Obviously, we also have Australia. Wow, is it getting bad down there? They're arresting people. They're putting signs on doors. So we've got to talk a lot about that authoritarianism and everything like that. So I don't know. We'll do the traditional introduction.

I think most people are probably familiar with who you are if you want to introduce yourself real quick. Just Steve Bannon. Welcome. I'm a long-time viewer, first-time caller. I'm a huge fan of the show, huge fan of you guys and your audience, and so I'm very honored to be back. Oh, man. Thanks for coming. We're honored to have you.

In one of the most beautiful parts of the country. Good folks. Yeah, Appalachia, man. Mountains and trees. The weather is so nice. coming. One of the most beautiful parts of the country. Good folks. Yeah, Appalachia, man. Mountains and trees. The weather is so nice. It's one of the scotch country. Right on. Hey, glad you're here, Steve. Thanks. Good to see you again, buddy. I got a bone to pick with you later. No, no, no. You've been in my head for this.

No, no, no. Are you trained in Jiu-Jitsu? Before the show, it was amazing. Okay, I don't want to... No, let's hold it for later. We'll hold it for later. So I'll just say we're going to have the after show at timcast.com for members. Stay tuned.

Because this one's going to be really, really fun. There's a lot. Graphene is involved. There's a lot to talk about. Yeah. Don't... It was graphene. Ian triggered Steve, but it's going to be a fun conversation.

Go to timcast.com, be a member, and you'll see that coming up. But Ian. Oh, hey, thanks for having me, Tim. Good to be here again. Also a big fan of the show. Yeah, good. I love tuning in and watching. Even when I'm not on, I like to watch.

So it's great to be here. There's the deep state, and then there's Ian. Ian does watch the show. The Schumann residence is vibrating, and I think our thoughts are. For a while, I was like, your thoughts are creating and changing reality. Now I'm realizing this – your thoughts are like low-frequency, wide-range things that slowly affect great distances. But the camera is increasing the frequency and shortening the range, so it's giving people this short-range version of your thoughts. Wait, wait.

You're saying that we can say things, they will manifest? It's going to be more likely that it's going to manifest more with this heightening, this intensification technology. Gavin Newsom gets recalled. Yes! This was Dan Rather.

Kenneth, what is the frequency? Remember? I was just listening to that song, that R.E.M. song last night. What's the frequency, Kenneth? Synchronicity. I've actually been just doing a Vulcan mind melt on your

mind for the last 24 hours. You weren't really listening to that song last night. Yeah. What's the frequency, Kenneth? What's the frequency, Kenneth? That's the famous Dan Rather. It might have been the night before last. Someone left a comment and they were like, Kenneth's frequency.

You're weirding me out right now. We got to say this for the I flipped it on. Someone left a comment, and they were like, Kenneth's frequency. You're weirding me out right now. It's good. I'm all right. We've got to save this for the member segment. There's a lot to talk about in the member segment, obviously. Stuff that you do doesn't allow us to talk about. But we've got Lydia. Yeah, Ian was saying how our thoughts manifest into reality, and I said Larry Elder will

be governor of California, because I truly believe, I hope, really hope that's the case. You say Larry Elder is governor of California. That's right. And the people are like, yeah, that doesn't make sense. But like, think about that. You talk about the think about January. We started the shifted from impeachment pandemic mid-January 2020. We called the pandemic because we knew China.

The four, I would argue, the four most powerful politicians in the country at that time, Donald Trump, Mike Pence, Cuomo, and Gavin Newsom. Because remember, Biden was about to finish fourth or fifth in Iowa and fifth in New Hampshire. He was a nothing burger, right? Think about it. In one year, President Trump, I can't say he won, but President Trump is at Bedminster, right, getting ready for his second term term powering through pence is a 0.0 anywhere not an event cuomo's gone and gavin newsom is about to be gone within 30 days this tells people this is a fourth turning anything can happen decades but they're decades in which nothing happens and then they're months with decades happening that's why just strap in you have no no idea. Think about it.

Those four politicians at the top of their game, right, and all four in different arenas right now. Obviously, President Trump is still the most powerful political force in this country. But the other three gone. And Cuomo and Newsom, which are looked at as the future of the Democratic Party as far as power players, both gone within 30 days. That's a lot of optimism and hope, you know, telling people these are, you're right, you know, big victories. For you and your life, for politics, anything can happen. Don't let anybody tell you, hey, this is going to happen. You have no earthy idea.

This thing is moving so dynamic every day. Well, let's start talking about the mandates and stuff like that and the authoritarianism that's been creeping up. Before we do, go to TimCast.com, become a member because we've got a bunch of awesome journalists doing a lot of hard work, and we're going to have a members-only segment which comes up around I would say normally 11pm, but I have a feeling this one will go long because it's going to be a whole lot of fun. There's a lot of stuff YouTube doesn't allow us to talk about,

so we'll probably get to talk about a lot of stuff, crazy stuff, Ian, Graphian, whatever, and it'll be really interesting. And that'll be at TimCast.com, but don't forget to like this video, you know, Ian, Graffian, whatever. And it'll be really interesting. And that'll be at TimCast.com. But don't forget to like this video, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends if you think it's worth sharing. Even if you don't like us and you want people to see it, that helps too, I guess, if you for some reason want to help us. But let's jump to this first story out of Oregon. So obviously the big thing that I want to talk

to you, Steve, about is your prediction on schools. But I think this – the authoritarianism we're seeing is a good lead-in to what is happening because – well, let me first read this story. We have it from The Hill. Oregon implementing mask mandates outdoors regardless of vaccination status. So the issue here obviously is that we've got New York mandates. We've got L.A. has announced them, but we don't know exactly when. New Orleans is implementing them soon. What do we got? We got – there's four mandates. We've got L.A. has announced them, but we don't know exactly when. New Orleans is implementing them soon. What do we got?

There's four cities. San Francisco. San Francisco is going into effect, I think, soon. I think New York is the one that happened now. This is medical apartheid. Absolutely. This is apartheid. Let's talk New York City for a second.

de Blasio is at MSNBC today and says, we had it on the show this morning, says, oh, we've got to have carrots and sticks and it's time to stop the carrots. We've had enough carrots. It's all sticks. Okay? And the big stick he wants is on children. He says 5 to 11.

He says the FDA thing now we got to take, we have to have mandates, mandates, mandates to have the school. The FDA thing doesn't even deal, the children's studies aren't even coming in to 2019, to 2023 and 2024. Right? It has nothing to do with children 5 to 11. Only 29% of African Americans in New York City are vaccinated. I think only 40% of health care workers, before they start putting these mandates in, why?

People are logical and rational. They just want to see the receipts. These are not anti-vaxxers. They're not the Bobby Kennedy crowd. And I'm not denigrating that crowd, but they got their own deal. This is vaccine hesitant. And you're seeing this about informed consent and treating people like adults. I agree. I think there's two big things that the despots don't play, don't factor in. We have personal friends who are pregnant, you know, and so they go to the doctor and the doctor says, well, I wouldn't recommend any kind

of, you know, particular medication in this degree. That's my recommendation. Say it to the doctor. Now, the CDC says pregnant women can't get it. But what do you do when your doctor says no? So there's a lot of – they're saying, oh, why aren't enough people getting their second dose? Maybe they're going to their doctors, getting informed consent and making a choice that's personal to them. Yeah, happened to me.

So when you mandate these things with no medical exemptions, that's why I agree with you on medical apartheid. Yeah, happened to me. de Blasio can't go in and have a nice dinner in a restaurant, right? Because you have to have the passport. And remember, the passport, I think Naomi Wolf's been quite correct on this. The passport leads to many, many other things. Well, it's also Vaxor ID. You don't just, it's more than the passport. You need a government-issued identification. Yes. So this is really interesting because on Twitter, I tweeted Vaxor ID is racist.

Two points. One, most of these Democrat types did not know that the mandate requires photo identification as well as your proof of vaccination. So they thought I was talking about the passport. I was. I'm literally talking about the ID and making a point that if you have just the ID issue where the left frequently says minority communities are less inclined or able to get IDs, well then, if voter ID is racist, under the same exact principles, vaxxer ID is racist as well, regardless of vaccination status. They didn't get that. When I finally started tweeting back at people saying, here's the law, you need an ID, they said,

oh, well, it's not targeting them, so it's fine. All of that Ibram Kendi critical race theory stuff goes out the window. No one cares anymore when it's their tribe implementing the authoritarianism. I tell you, I think this is, listen, I think the FDA letter yesterday, they thought it was going to have a massive impact. It's not the story they thought it was going to be, and it's going to lead to, I think, the implementation of certain mandates. They hope the corporations come in here. We're going to have a real problem.

This is going to be a lot. If you think that the convergence to the mothers on August 15th with going back to school, you wait until they start to try to implement some of these mandates. I think you're going to have a lot of problems, a lot of problems with people, civil disobedience and people just questioning this. And I think the lawsuits are going to really start to fly. So you're saying beyond mask mandates, you're saying schools implementing vaccine mandates for children? This is where they're going. Remember, let's go back in time. Fauci let the cat out of the bag when he said back a couple of months ago, we picked it up in an interview in the Associated Press,

they started talking about herd immunity. And remember, they've taken out what real herd immunity is, which is you have the disease, you get natural antibodies from having the virus. That used to be 70%. Remember, we're all going to go to herd immunity 70%. They don't even mention herd immunity today. What you have to have, it's Fauci says, oh, no, we got to get everybody vaccinated. And they shifted the goalposts even there from 70% to 90%. And I said, look, the math works there. If that's the case tonight, you have to have every school,

the school children have to be vaccinated. Savannah Guthrie, I think asked him a couple of days later, he kind of coughed it up, right? They've now shifted the goalposts that it's got to be only vaccines, not herd immunity, right? That's the medical, no medical exemption. If you have antibodies, the way I think I read the New York law, you're not exempt. You still got to get vaccinated, although you have antibodies. Andrea Mitchell asked Fauci the other day on TV, she goes, hey, couldn't we have a system? And she says, I don't know the technicalities or the expense, but couldn't we have a thing to test your antibodies after? This is about the second jab.

And he went nuts. No, no, no, no, no. You can't do that. Absolutely can't do that. They do not want to go in and test for antibodies about these vaccines. Remember, conspiracy theory on like the Tim Pool show, you'd have been bounced off of YouTube 90 days ago if we had said, oh, really, you're going to have to have more jabs. Remember, that's conspiracy theory.

Dave Rubin got suspended on Twitter. That's my point. For that exact thing. And this was like a month ago. The difference in time from a conspiracy theory now to fact is about 30 days, 60 days, right? You would have been banned. Dave Rubin was. And your show, if we had talked about that, you would have been banned, okay?

And now they're talking about multiple jabs, right? Jabs. A yearly booster or whatever. Or maybe even short-term. Look, here's the thing, is that it's about informed consent. And that's why people have logic and rationality. And it's like the African-American community in New York. Why only 29 percent?

They haven't been – the argument has not been made to them. The evidence and facts have not been out there that they agree with it. And this gets to be, I think, a lot of this thing in Oregon. If you've had the vaccine, the whole question about masks is totally up in the air at best. I would argue particularly open air right where is the evidence where's the peer peer-reviewed journalist says you have to do that right and and but you've got this authoritarian you know the public health system is now going to this kind of authoritarian mode where people are doing it and that's where you're going to have

you're going to have a lot of parents and i think you're going to see a lot of parents just opt out of the system i think you're going to see a big surge in homeschooling that said, hey, look, I've had enough of this. I've always supported public schools. I'm a big supporter of this, but I can't do this anymore. I'd rather take my kids and figure out another way. The mask thing is particularly weird, right? So the first thing I say is like I'm a very – I don't know what the right word is for it. I don't care if people want to do things with their own lives.

If you want to wear a mask, that's absolutely fantastic. In fact, if you know you're sick and you put a mask on, I think that's fantastic. You're not spitting on people, right? We see it all over the world when people have a cold or a flu, they put a mask on. People in Asia, if you've been going to Asia for years, people in Asia, particularly in Korea and in China, would wear a mask all the time. One, the air in Shanghai and Beijing is not great. But people would wear masks all the time. It's not a big deal.

If they were sick. But not even sick. A lot of people just wear it because the air was so bad. It was nothing out of the ordinary to see people totally masked up. A lot of them. And that's purely your right. So there's this story out of Australia where they actually have a warrant for this guy. And part of the complaint they show in the news is that he was

sneezing and coughing in an elevator without covering his mouth. And I'm like, we all agree, dick move. But to issue a warrant for someone's arrest over this, I think what it shows with Oregon and the mandates of these things is that we are inching ever towards a

paranoid nanny state where people are so terrified of reality that it's a it's a crime to sneeze in public without covering your face let's go back to reality this is where i think it really gets dangerous because we try to be evidence-based database science-based on the show every time we try to bring up experts and walk through the data my fear here is scientism now you have irrationality coming into it, and you can't actually argue. You can't present facts that you have. And let's talk about Australia.

Everybody's been there. No Australians. No, it's a country that it's an outdoors country. They love freedom, right? It's not just because of the way they were founded with the prison populations of the UK. But the logic they have is like zero.

COVID transmission is zero. These lockdowns are the most serious I've seen. You've seen the SWAT teams going around. You've seen the warrants issued. You see the national TV. And they're doxing people

on national TV. They're building camps. More than one. Because they're doing something that's not rational. You can't get to zero. It's the law of diminishing returns, right? What you have to do to get there.

And it's not even a goal that you need to have because the disease is not that deadly. And the transmissibility, even this. The other thing about the FDA letter, let me be blunt. And this is Dr. Malone, one of the top vaccinologists, the creator of the messenger RNA, right? He goes through it. He's not anti-vaxxer. He's dedicated his life to vaccines. He said the first thing is he reads it, and he says the letter is they only deal with

the data on the Alpha and Bravo. It's not – the Delta variant is not dealt with at all in the analysis of – remember, it's not the Pfizer. It's the other one. By the way, he says it has not he says it's not on the market yet. It's to come. You can't go to – The Delta variant one.

No, no. First off, the FDA approval letter doesn't deal with the Delta variant. They say in there of the data, they did it off the Alpha and Bravo and other variants. So there's no Delta variant. The other part of it is that this – was it the BioNTech or whatever the other name is? BioNTech. Yeah. He says he doesn't know if that's in full manufacturing yet.

It's not like you can call the doctor and go get that today. That's going to be released, but it hasn't been released so far. The Delta variant one or I'm confused? No. So they came out. Pfizer didn't actually get a letter. They're still under emergency use authorization. Wait, Pfizer still is?

Yeah, Pfizer. I think there are two letters. It's been widely reported that the FDA has already approved it. No, if you read the details, it's Bioenerget is the one that got the FDA approval, full FDA approval. Pfizer slash BioNTech is one vaccine. Well, no, I think it's the Pfizer company, but that Biootech is not the one that's fully been out. This is according to Dr. Malone, who walked through the letter in detail today. I mean.

And his point is that he's not sure that they really cover. His point is that, look, you have a process in these FDA approvals. They have an independent advisory panel, and you're supposed to have public comments. They totally went beyond that. They actually say in the letter, because we didn't really have any problems, right, we're not going to have the outside advisory board review this, and we're not going to have a public comment section. That's insane.

I don't know if I agree because I don't know who this guy is. Well, Dr. Malone, he's the founder of the mRNA, the guy with the white beard you see all the time. Right. I can't argue against him. He's not here. But I did pull up from the FDA.gov. FDA approves first COVID-19 vaccine. They say today the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine.

The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine and will now be marketed as, this is weird, community for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age or older. The vaccine also continues to be available. This is also about de Blasio. It's 16 years and older. It has nothing to do with people under 16. They say in the letter itself.

It is EUA for anyone under 16. Exactly. And you've got, and by the way, they do have studies in there that you're going to have. And the studies I think are deliverable. The peer review studies are in 2023 and 2024. So my whole point is that this is a moving target right now, right? Right. But you're going to have – and they're looking for the corporations to do it and the corporations to have these actually ironclad mandates in there, these ironclad mandates that to keep your job, to come to work, to be in an

office, to be all that, to go to a restaurant, you're going to have to have to be vaccinated. And I think that's going to cause a big disruption. First off, we know the anti-vaxxer crowd is not going to do it, right? I believe that there's enough of what I call the vaccine hesitant, right? Or the vaccine hesitant adjacent that need to be, that need to really be convinced. It's a problem with vaccine hesitancy as a phrase. And I love that you're, you're kind of pointing out how ridiculous, because I'm, I'm, I love vaccines. Functional vaccines are phenomenal, but a new unapproved vaccine, any human, I believe in their right mind should be hesitant about an unproved vaccine. That doesn't make me vaccine hesitant.

Just because I'm hesitating about a new medicine that hasn't been tested yet doesn't make me hesitant towards vaccines. I like vaccines when they work. I understand what you're saying, but I think the main issue is, I brought this up many times, I go to the doctor. I say, hey, doctor, my back hurts. And he says, here is flibulabol or whatever. And I'm like, great, and I have no idea what it is. For me,

I Google search it. I do some research. I don't just blindly. Your body's not a temple? You mean like in terms of a doctor giving me prescribed medication and me being like... I'm just saying it's a general concept. I try to take care of myself to the best of my abilities. If a doctor gives you something, you're just going to go to the pharmacy

and get it done and take it? Typically, I'll Google it. I'll look up side effects. I'll look up things to consider. And my point was, I've actually gone to the doctor and said, hey, doc, according to online, it says there's a side effect for this. And he was like, we can switch it out for something else. And I said, cool. And then I looked it up again. I said, I prefer this. This makes more sense. Thank you, doctor. I think it's really just about, are you going to a doctor you don't trust? And I understand a lot of people say there's a lot of bad doctors. I'm like, okay, then work to finding a good one because you can't just, I don't know, man,

go online and find a blog to tell you what you should or shouldn't be doing. There's got to be someone who knows your medical history. And this is the problem I have with the celebrity push and the mandates. There's one story now where it's like I think in New York a judge ordered as bail terms you have to get vaccine. And I'm like this guy could have any number of risk factors or underlying conditions or disabilities. And it's not for the judge to mandate something that he doesn't – he's not a medical practitioner. So YouTube comes at us and other YouTubers and says, if you say the wrong thing about the vaccine, then, oh, we're going to ban you, but feel free to give medical advice

if it's the advice we like. And I'm like, no, I don't want any of that because I don't want to get sued, okay? I don't want to be responsible for someone else's health decisions. But to your point, Ian, I agree if people are like, hey, here's a new medication on the market.

I'd like to look into this a little bit, maybe be a little hesitant. My ultimate thing is like, get a couple of opinions from doctors. Yeah. And then do your own research as well but see this to your point that's why i think people are and i think the vaccine hesitant are digging their heels in more and one of the reasons is like we talked on your

show last time about we knew this date was coming when people go back when the go back to school and a lot of parents have had the vaccine just don't think there's enough research done on children and yet you had de blasio on msnbc this morning saying hey we carrots and sticks we got to do five to eleven and yet you read the letter and you see it's still emergency use for children so that's what you meant when you said it was still under eua's for the kids yes yes yes and we and we do have that from the fda's uh website but but but you see fauci yesterday and i don't think it was a slip of the tongue because I think I definitely heard on NPR, but I thought I also saw it on MSNBC, where he said, hey, now that we're getting it, we get up to 90 percent or whatever, we can have our hands around this, our arms around this plague by the fall of 2022.

And, of course, the politicians blew up, the Democrats blew up, and he walked it back on Anderson Cooper last night. My point. There's been so much information put out there that has just been inaccurate to the point about the other jabs, which got Dave Rubin taken down off of Twitter, would have gotten us canceled off of YouTube. That turns out to be

the correct thing 60 days later. There's so much in a complicated topic. So much is is being important given to the american people that turns out to be just not accurate right and they're naturally inclined to say hey prove it to me let me pull up the story we have from timcast.com oh two years to slow the spread fauci hopes to have covet under control by spring of 2022 in an interview with cnn's anderson cooper fauci came out and said he misspoke when he said fall and he really COVID under control by spring of 2022. In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, Fauci came out and said he misspoke when he said fall,

and he really meant spring. And you know what? If it was a mistake, okay. That's fine. Sorry. I get it, Fauci. Yeah, you made a mistake. Here's the problem.

Do you buy that? It doesn't matter if I do. Okay. It doesn't matter. First of all, I trust and distrust of CNN and Fauci. Here's the real issue. Fauci could be the nicest guy in the world. Fauci could be, you know, he comes over for dinner and he brings a casserole with him. And you're like, oh, you didn't have to do that, Fauci.

Thanks so much. But he's been wrong too much. It's not about whether I like him or think of him as a bad person or prescribe malintent. It's that he has flip-flopped on so much. And so here's the big problem. There's no anchor. I mean, literally like an anchor in the ground for people to understand their reality. Yes.

So when the news comes out on Thursday and says by fall of 2022, and then the news comes out on Friday by spring of 2022, and then you go and talk to mom, dad, brother, sister, relative, and they're saying, we all got to do this. Otherwise, we're going to be locked down until fall of 2022. And then you go and talk to mom, dad, brother, sister, relative, and they're saying, we all got to do this. Otherwise, we're going to be locked down until fall of 2022. And you say, no, CNN said it was spring of 2022. What are you talking about? And then you're both showing each other articles from within 10 hours of each other contradicting each other because Fauci doesn't know what he's talking about. I see this a lot on Facebook. Someone will post a story and it'll say

some fact or guidance. And I'm like, that story's from a day ago. It's already been contradicted, but they don't want to hear it because they're like, look, I read the news. This is a new story. It's from 12 hours ago saying this thing is true. And then I'm like, yes, but he came out again and said this. And they're like, I don't know what you're talking about. So now you have people clashing into each other, arguing over what is or isn't and getting banned for it. The funny thing about Dave Rubin getting suspended on Twitter for saying that booster shots were coming was that he was actually, when he, when he got finally released from Twitter jail, he's like, here are the articles I was reading. And they said, our booster shots on the way booster shots

may be coming soon. And now where are we at? The FDA says, and I want to make sure I pull this up because YouTube is a fickle beast. They say the vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization, including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals. You know what they didn't say? A third dose for all individuals. So when they're talking about booster shots for everybody, that's not in the FDA's letter

for even emergency use authorization. They only are referencing certain immunocompromised individuals. Now, when the New York Times comes out and says FDA is recommending a booster shot after eight months, but the FDA comes out and doesn't say that, what am I supposed to base my understanding off of? I want to just clarify this. These boosters, Moderna, Pfizer, so on and so forth, and booster shots, all for the alpha variant, for the original COVID variant. Alpha and beta. Alpha and beta, which are no longer the problem.

What we're looking at right now is a mutated version, assuming it's going to mutate again and again and again and again. So these vaccines are not for the Delta variant, which is the current mutated strand, right? So a lot of the stories have just said the vaccine retains a certain amount of efficacy for the Delta variant. That's a weak way of saying it's not the right vaccine. Yes. Right. I'm trying to not the right vaccine. Yes. I'm trying to use my words carefully because for the nuance, they're saying it works. It wasn't designed specifically targeting this variant.

That's so important. And for them not to be shining a spotlight on that is so dishonest. This is OK. So the the right after I was here, what, four or five, six weeks ago, the surgeon general of the United States came out with this big report and said and attached to this report said the surgeon general went to the White House. Number one health public health issue we have right now. Right. Not even COVID. It's misinformation. Remember that? It's misinformation. That's now a public health crisis, misinformation. And they listed Bobby Kennedy and Dr. McColl and other people all because of the Internet. I think one of the reasons that Fauci has so imploded in people, not just integrity, but people with authority, people really listening to him, is that shows like this, like War Room and others, get so much into the details of these things. People just don't want to watch general political TV anymore, I don't think. They're really thirsting for answers and for experts and for data and information to make up their own mind, not to be told. But like in the movies, show, don't tell, right?

They want to see access to information. So when Fauci goes on CNN and MSNBC speaks in the kind of these general big picture phraseology and then it changes and the goalposts change first you get herd immunity of 70 from people have had it next thing you know oh herd immunity is 90 you got to be vaccinated right people get naturally because i think we're in a time and you see this in the apes people are crowdsourcing knowledge all the time right now they're going to say oh you have to be a trusted yeah there'll be a trusted source for that information just to clarify the apes as a reference to the stocks to the stock to the the game stock the ape nation it's like four million individuals and they're teaching themselves how to trade stocks or they're having people come in and they crowdsource they're becoming experts or not experts they're becoming

proficient in understanding finance and economics and the trading of stocks as they teach themselves. I think you're seeing across the board in many, many different areas. Look at the people, just two examples, and this is populism. Look at what people know about vaccines and pandemics today that 18 months ago would never know. Look at critical race theory. I know so many mothers who were, let's say this, not exactly A students and were partying in college. People I know my age, maybe some relatives, maybe a sister of mine, that are experts in Herbert Marcuse. Marcuse, no, but they know critical race theory like Andrew Breitbart knew it. I mean, they've gone through and studied.

They've gone to the source material. We had a woman on last night from North Carolina. They can give you chapter and verse. They never heard of critical race theory. Derrick Bell, you know, six months ago. But for crowdsourcing and getting knowledge, they're going up a learning curve. You're seeing this in every different area around. And I think people, if you're going to be managed by experts, the experts, I think, have to come out and really lay out things in a very definitive way. That's a good point.

I mean, we're seeing more and more people start to do research they never would have done in the past. The way I – this is interesting. We'll talk a little bit about Bill Maher in a second, but I was thinking about Bill Maher's show because of the news about him rejecting booster shots. And I'm like, you know what the problem with Bill Maher is? He doesn't actually read into the news. He just watches the TV and then bases his opinions off of what he sees on TV.

And you know what? That probably worked when Bill Maher was younger, and that's how he got to where he is today. The news used to be only a handful of channels. So when he's coming up into prominence, there's a handful of channels you can watch where you could get distilled information. He does his political commentary based on this. The information he was presenting was probably wrong or misleading but we didn't have crowd research now 2021 bill maher comes on this on his show he gets the covington kids wrong right he gets a lot of these things wrong and he doesn't understand but you can see

that he's clearly on the side of liberty or more so on the side of that. I think he's kind of red-pilled. You think he's red-pilled? Yeah. Let me tell you something. Real quick. Yeah, no, go ahead. You're right, but he's like 1%.

You know, he's missing so much context and information. First off, his show, I think, is one of the best produced shows. I've had a chance to be on there a couple times and twice up front. His show is one of the best produced.. I've had a chance to be on there a couple times and twice up front. His show is one of the best produced. The staff does an amazing job of the detail. Remember, he is a stand-up comedian. Very quick-witted. I find his stuff actually be pretty piercing as far as getting to the point.

Let me tell you a story about the pandemic. So they called me up to come out to, in fact, in January, right when the pandemic started, to come out and talk about the primaries. On Bill Maher. On Bill Maher, yeah. In the front of the show, when you come out to this thing. Right. This is like the second time I've done it.

I've done the panel years ago about Sarah Palin. But I said, I'm only going to do it if we talk about the pandemic. I've shifted my podcast from impeachment to pandemic. This is the end of the world. It's going to change the world as we know it. You have to understand it. And they go, fine. I fly out there, and staff's terrific. They come to me, and they say, look, here's the deal. Bill loves you. It's going to be a great session up front, but he wants to talk about the primaries. He wants to talk about Bernie.

You can't mention the pandemic. I go, whoa. And the producers say, hey, all we do is follow it, and we're watching your show because it was the early stages. I said, no, no, no. I said, this is going to change the arc. It's going to change the election, right? And they said, no, we can't do that. What he'll do in the introduction, he'll introduce you as the host of the new podcast, War Room Pandemic. But then he wants to talk about politics. Although the staff and these guys, and he just made a decision, and it was quite frankly, to your point,

it was a miss. His staff was very much saying, hey, we want to do the pandemic. He made a decision, hey, this pandemic thing sounds like the flu from China. Let's do, I want to talk about Hillary and I want to talk about Bloomberg

and I want to talk about those things are current. However, I think, and I think this is why, particularly in the Trump movement, the populist nationalism, I think Bill Maher is someone, every week on woke culture. You're seeing what I call old lions like that who come from a more of a – although they're progressive, they come from a libertarian base, a libertarian perspective that are at the vanguard of countering and throwing off wokeness.

I appreciate him. I think it's good. There's a lot of people, you know, he had Ben Shapiro on recently. You see the Ben Shapiro, Malcolm Nance thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And wow, when I watched that, you really understand how...

You're outmatched. I mean, Ben Shapiro versus Malcolm Nance. That's not a fair... That's outmatched. Not just that, but like... I didn't even care. And his senior chief petty officer, Nance, is a good man.

I don't agree with his plot, but he's outmatched by Ben Shapiro. Even with Nance not there, I was really impressed with Ben Shapiro. He's fast. He's knowledgeable. And look, Bill Maher is outclassed by Ben Shapiro. Oh, big time. So I'm watching that.

I'm like, wow. This is why Ben is one of the biggest podcasters and one of the biggest personalities in this and uh but you know what you end up seeing with this is that bill maher he should have known a lot more than he did and so to to like you know what happens in these debates with the you have malcolm nancy of ben shapiro and again ben shapiro outclassed both of them in my opinion bill maher here's one of these like left progressive people say something and i'll say oh i understand that okay and i'll agree with that and it's like bill if you actually read the story you'd know that they were wrong you know so i get accused of being right wing simply because i actually fact check things and a good example um well i don't want to get too much into the but when you see the uh

the news come out i think we'll call you right wing for more than that but that's okay no i mean that's the that's the main like that's that's it oh because when you fact check they come back and say you're a right winger yes when you have a fact so if i say something like versus an emotion i'll say something like afghanistan is you know the general idea i said is a lot of people want to pass the blame for what's happening in afghanistan the the democrats want to blame trump the trump supporters will blame Biden. Ultimately, I think full responsibility, to a great degree, is George W. Bush for starting the war in the first place,

Obama for escalating and keeping us there. But I think it is factually inaccurate. The nation building, not the war. Yes, nation building. I think it is factually inaccurate to say that it is Trump's fault for what's happening in Afghanistan because it's not his plan. He negotiated a peace deal. It's not being followed through and Trump has no leadership over the current situation. So it is factually inaccurate to say that Trump, but what happens then is they say, aha, Tim's defending Trump. And I'm like,

in the sense that he's not the president right now and he has no control over what's going on, but then they'll call me conservative because a fact will happen. I'll give you an example. I know everybody who's listening, they're going to be like, here he goes to the economy again. Do you think the economy is good or bad right now? I think the economy for working class people is terrible. Inflation is out of control. You're getting crushed every day.

It's awful. Independent voters and Republicans would agree with you. But Democrats overwhelmingly think the economy is good right now. Because they bought into it hard. They're not giving you the truth. You saw the polling today on USA Today. Forget the Democrats so overweight to Biden right now because they're still hanging on because he's an orange man bad. It's orange man bad.

32%, only 32% of independents support Biden. Biden's presidency is over. The regime is over. The regime is over. It's now time to cauterize this and to make sure it can't do any more damage, permanent damage, permanent damage to the American people and to our republic. And that's what's happening right now with the financial, what they're doing, the passing of these bills. They just had the vote today, the $6 trillion they want to add. This regime is over, and here's why.

Look at this poll from USA Today, Suffolk, which is a center-left or left-wing polling group. It's not War Room, and it's not the Tim Pool Show, right? It is 32% of independent support approval of Biden. Biden went from a plus 20% on the day of his inauguration, a plus 20 approval, to a net negative 14. There's never been a drop this quickly in the presidency ever by anybody. This is an implosion, and there's no bottom to this guy. There's no floor. This guy could get to the high 20s. He just announced, look, he sent a CIA director over to Afghanistan

to be lectured by the Taliban. And look, I'm a big guy about- And the CIA? The head of CIA. The head of CIA is going to fly over to have a meeting to be told, you guys are leaving and getting out of here. And now tonight he just announced we're starting to withdraw because it takes a while to get the apparatus out. The apparatus is starting to be moved out. And right now, I think Daily Mail reported there's hundreds of Americans have been evacuated, just hundreds. And there's 15,000 estimated. From what we know, we don't know.

Nobody's given us a firm. And I understand you might not have it down to the fifth decimal place, but can we know if it's 5, 10, or 15,000? Are they in Kabul? Are they throughout the country? And what's going on? Look, American citizens should have some value. You shouldn't just be left behind like trash, right? And this is why this is a presidency that's imploding right now.

And nobody can sit there and look at these inflation numbers. Working class people, the inflation is not transitory. It's because the way we're financing this, it's out of control. The wealthy are going to get wealthier. Your audience, particularly under 35, I told you before, you're going to be Russian serfs. Now you're going to be impoverished Russian serfs. This is just the math. So the point I'd made previously was that I'll get called right wing for agreeing with you on facts, right? So here's a really good example of that. You said that Joe Biden's approval rating is, what, 41 percent?

Forty-one percent. We have – and that's Suffolk. USA Today, Suffolk. Just came to Suffolk. We have Civics, which does the long-tracking 91,000 responses, and they said 42 percent disapproval. What do you think the disapproval of Joe Biden is among Democratic voters? What number? Disapproval among Democratic voters has got to be in the teens or less, 10%, 12% max.

Six. Six, yeah. Six percent of Democrats disapprove of Joe Biden's job. It's orange man bad. Now, among Republicans, what do you think his approval rating is? Approval rating? Republicans got to be nine percent, six percent. Three. Disapproval of Joe Biden among Republicans is 94 percent. That's why the proxy is the independents. Exactly. And that's what I wanted to get to. Among independent voters, where it really matters, the numbers are remarkably worse than what you said. Approval for Joe Biden is 31%

among independent voters. So maybe some of these are partisan, but we know Republicans think we know what Democrats think. Independent voters, 58% disapproval. Now, here's what happens as an independent voter. And I say something like Biden's doing a bad job. Well, then you must be right wing because Republicans don't like Biden. If you don't, you're conservative. No, independent voters, 31%. Just by saying that fact, you're right wing, right? Just by saying that fact. Exactly. And, you know, if I come out and say anything good about Joe Biden, meaningless.

They don't care. There's, there's, there's, doesn't matter. Nope. Sorry. So I don't know if there's a lot, there's a lot good to say about him. I really liked when he was giving that speech and he said, we't be sending a next the next generation of uh you know sons and daughters to go fight a war but that's also everybody we've agreed upon that we understand as a nation we can't be the president to say it i'm not saying he deserves a ward for it i'm just

like i'm glad he said that you know okay i think donald trump listen back in 17 when i was in the white house the national security state the apparatus and look, I'm a veteran. My daughter's a veteran. My kid brother's a veteran. His wife's a veteran. We come from a family that serves. The military and the intelligence agency lied to his face. This is not a miscalculation. They lied to his face, and they've been lying to people for 20 years.

But the system wants to believe it. The system wants to believe it. Right? President Trump said, okay, we'll do it for a while longer, but we've got to have a plan to withdraw. We have to have a plan to get out of here. But this is not the way you do it. And he was right. And people need to understand, Bush starts the war. Obama expands it.

It's only been two presidents. I'm not so sure on the war. Look, the war, we first went at the paramilitary groups in October. We're coming up on the 20th anniversary of that after 9-11, I think October 7th, where there's going to be a veterans rally in D.C. That thing is going to be quite large and intense. It was the nation building. It's the shifting of the thing to all of a sudden we want to build a democracy like ourselves in the middle of Central Asia, right? Right.

$2 trillion, ladies and gentlemen. What would this country be like? When Trump was there, they said, oh, it's going to cost $15 billion. I said, Eric Prince and I said, I said $50. Eric said $62. It turned out to be $62.5 billion. What would Baltimore look like if you took $62 billion just one year, right? $62 billion just put into Baltimore.

$62 billion. The opportunity cost was enormous. The opportunity cost is beyond the $62 billion just put into Baltimore. $62 billion. The opportunity cost was enormous. The opportunity cost is beyond the $62 billion. The money you could have made by investing $2 trillion is a magnitude. Into American manufacturing? Yes. Why can't we get the Democratic voter base to understand that? Why is it that they're overwhelmingly behind the machine, which is stripping away their resources, their value, and their labor for things like nation building in Afghanistan.

Part of it is because the American empire, the industrial complex, murdered – it looks like they take people out that speak up against them. So people are like living in shocked terror. I don't know. Slow down there. Let me give you a fact. It's pretty ominous. Look at MSNBC. Look at MSNBC's program Wheel at Night.

Look at Rachel Maddow and look at Chris Hayes because those are the two most important shows. Look at the Big Pharma ads. Okay? The Democratic Party were the leaders for decades in going after Big Pharma until about 18 to 24 months ago. Now they're the biggest proponents of Big Pharma and the controls that come around Big Pharma. The Democratic Party, and I think they've led. this is why I think there's so many Democrats, and that's why I think in the Rio Grande Valley, populists and economic nationalists are starting to sit there and go, hey, I'm not into what these globalists are.

This kind of, this empire that they want to, you know, the party of Davos, right? The financial city of London, Wall Street, the globalist corporations, right? They've sold these people that your sovereignty doesn't mean anything and your citizenship. You're not going to own anything, but you're going to be fine. The World Economic Forum. Hey, you're not going to own anything, but you're going to be great. You'll be happy. You'll be happy, right?

This is all – it's a con. You know why? The guy is pushing that on you. They own and they own a lot. And now they want to own your houses and run them back to you. They want to own every asset because the assets are exploding. Why? They own all the commodities. That's why inflation is getting so high. They want to own it all.

They want you to pay for it by renting. Or they want you to pay for it by leasing. But they're going to own the assets. So the people selling this to you own the assets. That's the con. And that's why you're going to be Russian-served. You're not going to own anything. And I think people are

awakening to that. Like Communist China. Communist China, that's a transnational criminal organization. That's state capitalism. It's authoritarian, right? It's politics, a total dictatorship with a handful of industries. That's why Xi goes down

there and says, hey, the tech guys, they're not going to become oligarchs like in the United States where they can shut down Donald Trump. They can shut down Donald Trump. They can disband him, and he's got no voice. That's not going to happen here. Bang, bang, bang. Jack Ma, you think you're a big shot?

Boom, boom, boom. And he wipes out $500 billion of the deplorables money. It's your pay. Remember, when she makes this decision, he doesn't care. You know why? It's your private equity that Wall Street's put into these companies. Remember, the $500 billion that was lost is the pension fund money of the workers in the United States. That's the Greek tragedy part of this.

So we're basically already living under the boot of the CCP. 100%. By the way, we could shut them down. Here's the thing. The tools – it's just like that movie with the Untouchables, where they said about prohibition. You've got Sean Connery and Cosner, and they're sitting there, and Sean Connery

turns to them and goes, everybody knows where the whiskey is in prohibition. Do you have the will to take the axe and walk across the street and beat down the door and go to the still and blow it up? Everybody knows what the problem is. The problem is we're financing the Chinese Communist Party. Why?

Because the system works like that. It's higher margins off the slave labor of the Chinese people. The biggest victims of this virus, the biggest victims of the transnational criminal organization of the Chinese Communist Party is Lao Bai Jing, which as a term means old hundred names. That's the kind of the John Q public in China, the old hundred names, right? Those guys bear the brunt for everything. They're the deplorables of China. They're the biggest victims. They're the slave labor. That's what Nike's using at a buck a day, right, to sell the t-shirts. But the whole system is built upon that because the exportation of that deflation

about products and the keeping down of wages throughout the world keeps wages down in the industrial democracies. That's why we have to break the Chinese Communist Party. And we can do it if we tell Wall Street, you're going to have to do it. If we sit and put capital controls, we can stop lending to them, we can shut them down in 100 days if we enforce it. And we don't, and we won't, as long as we're run by the party of Davos. There's a shield for the establishment here in the United States, and it's the media.

And so everything you said, they call you far-right and all that stuff. If you took quotes, those quotes, and attributed them to a socialist progressive YouTuber, people would be like, oh, of course. New Yorker magazine, they did the big profile of Elizabeth Warren when she was running for president in the fall. New Yorker did one of the things they hang out with her. Fifth paragraph, she goes, you know, we listen to Steve Bannon. We like his ideas. Those are a lot of the ideas. Look, I'm not a right-wing conservative.

I'm a right-wing populist. You either have left-wing populism or right-wing populism. I'm an economic nationalist and a populist. Right. I believe. And by the way, that's because I believe that we don't need total state control. You need a bit. What people need is a better piece of the action. That's what I mean to say is you agree on the problems with the left wing populists. Yes. Disagrant solutions. Yes. The problem is these left wing populists won't actually listen to you because the media tells them not to but that's why shows like yours and they are because i tell you who's listening people in the rio grande valley the hispanics the the vanguard of the trump movement and you're seeing this and let's talk about the

recall of gavin newsom the golden boy in california 51% of Latinos in California. When he's recalled, it's because one of the core elements of the traditional Democratic Party has said, we want this guy out, and you know why? It's the mask mandates and it's the education. We don't want these school unions. We don't want the teachers. We have to have our kids in school. We have to do it.

One of the biggest things we have on the show is this woman, Lydia Friend, a woman of Watts, and her big fight is that in a competitive, you know, she's a grandmother, but she cares for all these kids in Watts. She says in a competitive world economy, kids can't take off a year or two not being schooled at home. They need to be competitive with the kids in China and the kids in Europe. That's why Latinos are leading. This is the ironic part of this. It's Latinos leading the recall of Gavin Newsom. In those nine Democrats, the nine centrist Democrats spread throughout the country, except three of them are in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas. Cuellar, Vela, and Gonzalez, I think it is.

Cuellar, Vela, and Gonzalez, down there that are that are old school ones retiring. The other two are tough, tough, tough Democrats. But they understand the Rio Grande Valley is flipping for Trump. Why? Border security and illegal aliens competing for those jobs at the lower end of the scale. They're driving wages down. People are rational. The reason that listen listen this is why the apes are so important they don't want you to understand finance they don't want you to

understand economics they don't want you to understand how the system works i would tell people hey you won't have any conspiracy theories when you start to explain and give people the information the way the system works like right now we've just just had Bloomberg had this morning, and I think we can get to that. Bloomberg had this morning that story. Since the CCP virus, $4 trillion has been added to the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve to pay for the drop in agri-man, all those interim things, $4 trillion, $838 million an hour. Wow. Okay? Now we're sitting here in Washington, D.C.

They're talking about $6 trillion of additional spending. Do you understand that this is going to, not your children and your grandchildren, you, if you're under 35 years old, welcome to serfdom, okay? Because you're always going to be just kind of this lumpenproletariat, right? You're never going to own anything. You're not going to have any one or two that write some algorithm or the Elon Musk of the world. Yes, you'll break out. But for the general population, it won't be the days of America where you can support a family on one wage earner and a couple of kids.

They're trying to destroy the American dream. For themselves. They've taken it all for themselves. Remember, they sit there and they put out the party of Davos with that thing, build back better. Oh, you're not going to own anything, but you're going to be happy. You don't need to. They own a lot. Because you're going to pay.

By the way, you're still going to pay the rent, right? Or you're still going to pay the – they're going to own the asset. One of the reasons they own the assets, that's because there's an explosion. When you have this printing of money, there's an explosion in real assets, real estate, stocks. This is what's going up. They're the owners of that. You're seeing the greatest concentration, shift in concentration of wealth in mankind's history right before our eyes. That's why it has to be stopped. Now, you do have power, the debt ceiling. They can't really get any of the spending done until they increase the debt

ceiling. And that's where the people, you're going to have a – you think you had a fire – I called a firestorm about this, about the going back to school. On September 20th, when they come back from this recess and they have to get down to brass tacks, the raising of the debt ceiling is going to be the next firestorm. They're going to sit there and go, the deplorables and Bannon and all these crazies are going to ruin the credit rating in the United States. They're going to implode the stock market. They're going to blow up the bond market. They're going to implode the stock market. They're going to blow up the bond market. They'll do all this evil stuff, right? All I'm saying is that the full faith in credit, you have three ways to pay for things.

You sell bonds to the Japanese or Chinese. You raise taxes and grow your way with increased taxes or you print money. The only reason we can print money, remember, the only reason we can print money is we're the prime reserve currency. The greatest export we have is the U.S. dollar. Every transaction in the world today, now the Chinese are trying to get off it. Cryptocurrency could get you off it. But every transaction in the world has to be generally converted into a dollar. That's why it's the greatest export we have. As long as we have that, we can keep printing money. But all that printing of money, when it says the full faith and credit of the United States, that's you.

That's your audience. It's on your shoulders. That means you're going to pay it back, your hard work, your efforts. The world's depending upon you, the decency, the decency of the American people to make good on an IOU. And that day, that is now $30 trillion. You project this thing out, it gets so far over the top. They always say this time it's different. It's never different. Once you cross debt to GDP, boom. And that's where we're hurtling down this now. They're here talking about $6 trillion. And here's the question.

Look around your city. Look around your state. Look at your own personal life. Don't take my word for it. We're at roughly $30 trillion of face amount of debt. By the way, the contingent liabilities, depending on your discount rate, anywhere from $100 trillion to $250 trillion, contingent liabilities. But just on the $30 trillion, look around at your state. Where did the money go? Where did the money go? Where did the money go? Do you see great airports? Do you see magnificent highways? Do you see great light rail? Where did the $30 trillion go? Where did the $2 trillion go in Afghanistan?

It's Brown University. The net present value of what we spend in Afghanistan is $2 trillion. This is what I asked when I was in the NSC. Show me the hospitals. Show me the roads. Show me the schools for girls. This has got to be Shangri-La. It's the size of Texas. It's 35, 40 million people. $ for girls. This has got to be Shangri-La. It's the size of Texas. It's

35, 40 million people. This has got to be Shangri-La. Where did the money go? A lot of it was left on the runway there in Kabul for the Taliban to take in the form of jets and fighter jets. Yeah, millions of dollars each.

I'm kind of answering a question you probably know the answer to. The arms industry, they make a bomb, they blow it up. It's gone. But they each. Hundreds of millions. I'm kind of answering a question you probably know the answer to. Hundreds of millions. The arms industry, they make a bomb, they blow it up. It's gone. But they spent a lot of money, $20 million making the stupid thing or whatever. They decommissioned the jet the next year by melting it. Look, these are fighters, and let's be honest, we helped create the Taliban to fight the Russians back in the 70s and 80s through Charlie Wilson's war. But listen, the Afghan people have defeated essentially Alexander the Great,

the British Empire at the top of their game, the Soviet Empire at the top of their game. And we've taken the Afghan National Army for hundreds of billions, not 80 billion, hundreds of billions of dollars of your money. We took the world's greatest fighters, toughest fighters that beat everybody at the top of the game and turn them into the world's worst army. That quit. That quit. Because you've been lied to.

You've been lied to for 20 years and we accepted these lies. But to clarify, though, they did quit, but it was Biden, my understanding is he pulled air support. And logistics. He pulled logistics out of the system.

They pulled the maintenance. They fled Bagram Air Force Base in the middle of the night. And then the Afghan security forces are like, where's our support? We have this training, this doctrine, and all of a sudden it's crippled. When the Taliban starts coming in, and the commandos did fight. There's that video where the commandos run out of ammo and then surrender, and the Taliban just come in and kill them all. Eventually, after weeks of this, that's when you see everyone just disband. It fell apart. This whole aspect of what happened in May,

June, July, and what Biden was told, what intelligence was told, this will be in, if not an impeachment trial, hearings that lead up to this, because this is that grave. What was he told? What were the decisions made? What was the logic and who signed off of taking, giving up Bagram first, taking the troops out first and leaving American citizens there? And the thing, how do you do it in reverse order? Who made those decisions? What intel?

What were the briefings? What did they look like? You know what Milley said? He was ordered to guard the embassy. So they didn't set up a path to Bagram, an Air Force base where they could have been running evacuations. Instead, they tried doing it out of Kabul's international... But this is where General Austin and General Milley

got to sit up there and go, no, we can't do this because you're going to jeopardize... We know you're the commander in chief, but we cannot do this and make the national security... National security advisor in the run-up to this, is he working 24 hours a day, Jake Sullivan? No. He's down in brazil lecturing bolsonaro on machine voting for the for the for the big contest they're going to have in

2022 between lula the the communist criminal and bolsonaro a populist nationalist he's down there lecturing him about his election lecturing about election when he should be in the situation room 24 hours a day we're sorting this. All of that will come out. Now we're in the middle of a crisis where they've basically had the Taliban tell them, no, 31st is a hard date. You're out. And they're going to move the apparatus. And we don't know how many American citizens.

Look, I spent months and some people spent years in the North Arabian Sea and Persian Gulf back in, I think, 79, 80. For the Persian, for the Iranian hostage crisis, there were 52 people. We have thousands, and we don't know. Tim, how can we be sitting here on August, what, 24th, and we don't know today, within a couple of thousand, how many actual American citizens are, and I say they're hostages right now, because you're at the tender mercies of the Taliban to allow them to go to the airport to get out of there. What was that movie with Ben Affleck where they were trapped in Iran? It was based off the true story.

Do you know what I'm talking about? It was like in the 70s, I think it was. This is the one about Ross Perot sending his guys in to get the – what happened is that they took the embassy in Tehran, right? Yeah, to sneak the people out. Well, no. We had – no. Ross Perot had a company, and he had employees there. He went and did helicopter Yeah, to sneak the people out. Well, no. We had no... Ross Perot had a company,

and he had employees there. He went and did helicopter things. He took his people out. We, after a year or nine months of humiliation, tried to send an attack force to get them from the Persian Gulf and North Arabian Sea. It got to a rendezvous point

and kind of crashed and couldn't go into Tehran. We abandoned it. The day of Ronald Reagan... you're talking about peace through strength and somebody being afraid of the new sheriff. The day of Ronald Reagan's inauguration, the mullahs sent the hostages back, all of them, right? Now, one, they want to humiliate Carter, but more importantly,

they knew there was a guy in town that was not going to put up with this nonsense. OK, that's where it seemed like, look, you can hate. You can spit on the floor when you hear Donald Trump's name. Let's be brutally frank. OK, that's the world was not like that last year. OK, it just wasn't. OK, now we have a feckless, hapless old man that's clearly not in charge making disastrous decisions. The other question I got, why do you have a president, I a president that addresses the American people in the middle of the afternoon? Okay?

Why does he be before the sun down? Why is he doing things at 3 o'clock in the afternoon, 3, 45, 4 o'clock? On the West Coast, it's lunchtime. You're addressing the nation. They'll give you TV time. This is a big enough crisis. I think they'll give you TV time. Or even if just cable picks it up.

Let's have a talk at 8 o'clock at night. When people are back from work. When people are back from work. I mean, these are national things. Look, there's no floor. And talk about no coincidences. Rachel Maddow cuts her new deal. Rachel Maddow, because she's the brains of the operation.

You talk about the media. She's the thinker, and her team is. All of a sudden, she wants to spend more time with the family she's cutting a new deal a weekly show from a nightly show and oh she's going to start doing west wings and entertainment and you know ari emanuel you know and she's going to do all kind of things no she just like john stewart she does not want to be left holding the bag here she wants out okay she wants out and i want to spend more time with the family give me a break she's the hardest worker and tough and hey on the rise of this she was all over it she's seen it and I want to spend more time with the family. Give me a break. She's the hardest worker in the topic.

Hey, on the rise of this, she was all over it. She's seen it, and they want out of here because they understand this is a debacle. This is a debacle. The entire – every one of our allies is repulsed. And the Chinese Communist Party, a transnational criminal organization, with their partners in Pakistan that have been conning us for years, with now the Taliban in the super state with al-Qaeda, Haqqani, and ISIS, plus Turkey, plus Russia, is now going to consolidate the Eurasian landmass, and they're going to be looking at Silicon Valley West, which is Taiwan.

Forget what you think you have a moral obligation to defend a democracy. Think about the practicality. You're not going to have a refrigerator. You're not going to have an F-100. You're not going to have an economy because that bill they're trying to jam through is $20 billion to try to get the high-tech chip design back to Arizona. It ain't going to happen. Taiwan is Silicon Valley West. It must be defended for the practicality of the American economy.

And they're sitting there right now looking at the island 100 miles off in this hapless crowd here that are going to leave American citizens behind. So the movie I was thinking of was Argo with Ben Affleck and it's about the story the CIA faked a movie production to get people out of the embassy in 1979.

They pretended to be like directors and things like that. I thought it was a great movie. How many people were involved? It was a small handful. It was 52, 55 people at the embassy. By the way, half of them were intelligence officers. They made a movie about this,

about how scared the Americans were that we could lose 52 people. Think of 15,000. 15,000 people. You should understand, most American citizens in there are a lot of progressives, women from NGOs, which they there doing positive work for women and things they think are health, things they think are great.

This is what right now we are potentially, we don't know the details, potentially leaving behind. This could turn out to be, if not it already is, the most devastating hostage situation that the U.S. has ever faced because they've already been warning that many of these people may become POWs. What you need to understand about the 15,000 people, the Taliban has said, oh, don't worry, we're going to allow the Americans to get out. But do they really have a rigid enough control of the men in the Taliban to prevent them from saying, that guy's a contractor. We don't care about what they say. And then you get videos of beheadings. Let's say 90% of the Taliban can be centrally controlled. That's 10%

that are just going to go rogue or going to freelance. You don't know, but the United States should never be in a position that we're beholden to the tender mercies of a medieval theocracy right and michael hayden let's be blunt the national security state here hayden tweets out the other day they had a trump they had one of the things of the trump of the trump flags they had the taliban going by he said uh the taliban and our taliban right this is a guy that was the only bear i believe was cia and nsa right then he tweeted out the other day some guy tweeted we ought to send all the unvaccinated to into on the planes don't let him go back empty don't let him deadhead send it back with unvaccinated trump followers and he retweets us thinking this is cute in a time of a national crisis and this is a crisis

i got a question for you you know uh obviously we're seeing this this mass chaos and this catastrophe but just uh with afghanistan this potential hostage situation what you were referencing with hayden we've been talking about quite a bit something changed in people people i've known for a long time who used to be normal regular nice people have become vile angry and bloodthirsty. Why? Have you noticed this somewhere? Oh, big time. Like, all of a sudden, they're posting things like, I hope you effing die, man.

I'm like, what happened to this guy? Like, yo, calm down. It's a fourth turning. It is. This is what happens. But it turns people into some kind of were-monster where this fourth turning happens, and all of a sudden, they're just like, all all of a sudden they're just bloodlust? You wait how NASA's going to get. Look, remember, one of the big arguments they made

against Trump and the Trump team and the deplorables and America First and all that is that you're a bunch of rubes. You breathe through your mouth. You don't know how the world works. You want to fortress America. You're nativists, xenophobes, racists. We're the experts. We're dialed into the party of Davis. We're dialed into NATO. This is competence? This is why at the core what i said at the cpac in 17 we need to deconstruct

the administrative state i'm not a guy that wants to burn down institution but you know what every institution we've got is rotten to the core and needs to have a cleansing okay the fbi the cia let's take it again some people and institutionally go through we have to have a cleansing. The FBI, the CIA. Just fire some people. Institutionally, go through. We have to have a church commission on this. How do we get in this situation? After the failures on 9-11, after the failures on weapons of mass destruction, on the failures of not

seeing the rise of China. These are not small things. Each one of these is what would destroy a great power. They're the experts. They're telling us what to do remember 9-11 miss world west weapons of mass destruction missed and lied about it okay rise of china oh nobody saw that what happened oh yeah they're everywhere ccp is everywhere and now in afghanistan that's where we got to get to the bottom of what biden was told and when he was

told it we need to see the briefing they can redact it it. And this is why even you saw a shift yesterday. Schiff's already trying to get ahead of it, to save himself. He does a House intelligence. He walks down the steps and goes, he tells them right there, hey, I just saw the intelligence briefing. I don't think we're going to get everybody out. That's a bombshell. When does that happen in American history?

We're not going to get everybody out. We're not going to get everybody out. We're just telling you now a week beforehand, we're going to leave them to the Taliban. People need to start bracing themselves for the possibility that you're going to see some really awful videos. There's going to be – and the news – these establishment media outlets may want to try and veer away from it, knowing what's coming in 2022, but you're not going to be able to escape it on the internet. I think they're actually doing a – CNN and MSNBC is, I think, doing think doing it now you've got the opinion guys are trying to

steer it it's trump's fault everything like that but i think to date they're doing a pretty good job of showing the chaos and saying hey it's disorganized plus you have you have the state department saying one thing and the pentagon giving a briefing and you have general austin and admiral kirby and admiral and they're like looking around. They get asked a question. Oh, the State Department just said that we didn't know that. Wow. They say Trump's group is incompetent. This is not incompetence.

This is gross. This is not negligence. This is gross recklessness. You know what I was saying the other day? The Afghanistan thing really revealed the emperor has no clothes in a way that was kind of surprising to me because of course i never saw biden as competent we have that we have a new poll showing that most americans now view him as incompetent it was a cbs poll not not a competent president 52 yeah pretty shocking right right and you had uh recipes and saying most americans view

kamala harris is not qualified to be president but i always kind of felt nancy pelosi's third in the third on deck right and come on i'm just saying she's not gonna be able to do it third in succession but here's what here's what i was you know i always kind of felt like even if biden wasn't capable someone there is the adult in the room who's like we'll take you know okay biden muttered and fell asleep but we know what we got to do and then i see with afghanistan i'm like no they've all just said don't look at me it's biden's fault when when they when they abandoned bagagram in the middle of the night, and then Hayden says, well, I was told to guard the embassy. Biden's whacked out of his mind. You took that advice when you

knew Milley doesn't care. He's a politician. So all of these people are like, wasn't my fault. I was following orders. Remember Bagram, one of the most important bases in the world, not turned over to our supposed ally, not turned over to the Afghan the world, not turned over to our supposed ally, not turned over to the Afghan Air Force, not turned over to the Afghan Security Forces, not turned over to the Afghan Army. We went out like a one-night stand in the middle of the night and let the devil catch the high most.

Wow. Even just the looters. They gave over to the looters. Taliban then came up. Yep. This shows you that the globalist project is collapsing around them. Okay? It's collapsing around them.

They fought for this for 20 years. They had all the Western educated guys lying to them and believing the lies. Here's the question. The American people should demand where, simple question, where did the $2 trillion go? I know what the source of proceeds were, the American taxpayer, okay, or future American taxpayers. I want to know where the money went. Toilet. I mean, look, they hired contractors.

They built bases. They built bombs. They built weapons. They spent it on a project that ultimately was fruitless. The globalists skimmed off the top. You have more heroin trafficking today, right, than ever before. This is one. Remember, the Washington Post, and I kept saying this like two years ago,

they did a thing called the Afghan Papers, which is more powerful than the Pentagon Papers. People talk about the Pentagon Papers. You read the Afghan Papers that the Washington Post editors put together with real reporting from inside the Pentagon. It's shocking because as many lies as you're told about Vietnam, it pales in comparison to the lies you're told about Afghanistan. What were some big ones? Like we're making progress.

We basically destroyed the Taliban. We control the country. There's a functioning democracy. Year after year after year. Look, when I was there, one of the things I was supposed to do was work to get us out. And what they said is that, oh, no, it's a functioning democracy. We control this. Kabul, one of the things I was supposed to do was work to get us out. And what they said is that, oh, no, you know, it's a functioning democracy. We control this. Kabul, we control the areas. I said, look, let's do two things. Let's just give me the use of proceeds. Where'd

the money go? Fight, fight, fight. Don't want to give it. Finally have to demand it. No. And you can round up to the closest $100 billion, right? You look at the use of proceeds. I think at the time, the Afghan National Force on Security is like $500 billion of right? You look at the use of proceeds. I think at the time the Afghan National Force on Security was like $500 billion of the net present value of the $2 trillion, right? Also, I said, I want to go back. I gave a couple of inflection points. I want to see the presentations that were given to the commander-in-chief

at the time. I just want to see when Bush made these decisions, when Obama made the decision, because you've had both conservative hawks, neocons like chaining these guys in this room, because you've had both conservative hawks, neocons, like chaining these guys in this room, and you've had progressive neocons and hawks in this room under Obama. All good people, all trying their best, all went to the Ivy League schools, all from the military camps, all of it for 20 years. Let me see them.

Let's have a presentation. You know, all the presentations, they don't want to give it. You know why? All the presentations, all the same. In 18 months. You know why? All the presentations are all the same in 18 months. Oh, man. You want to live in that. It's like being in investment banking. The third year is nirvana. Every number is hitting in the

third year, you're golden. That third year, the chart is like that. Every year, it's 18 months. We're 18 months away from turning this thing around. It's always 18 months. It's a lie. This is not a miscalculation. They're lying to your face. They're lying to your face about what NATO supported, what NATO

did on the combat tours. They're lying about what went on. Remember, if you ask anybody today, if you Google right now, how many deaths in Afghanistan? 2,200. Well, no, hold it. You're not counting, I think, 4,000 contractors. And the contractors are not guys rolling in cooking hot dogs. They're basically pipe hitters that have punched out of the military, and it's cheaper to pay them a real salary, right, but not to pay their medical or not to pay their retirement.

They're off the books. I think we lost 4,000 contractors. So there's 6,000 or 7,000 dead. We don't know how many. For your audience right now, I'm getting calls. I know a couple of people individually, personally close to me that have had friends that have PTSD that have tried to commit suicide or try to hurt themselves because they're sitting there going 20 years of my life, 10 tours, all my friends, friends wounded, hurt, lives destroyed. And for what? What is it for? What did we do? Were we lied to by our face? Did anybody anticipate?

If the apparatus is so smart, if the experts, if you're so dumb out there and you're just somebody that should be fed information that's packaged and they're so smart, how did we get to the end of a 20-year project? And yes, Joe Biden, you're right. We've got to leave. No doubt about it. How do we get to the end of the 20-year project? And there's nothing, not only nothing to show for it. It's a terrorist super state that's going to be created if the experts are so this is why populism give me the first hundred people that dial into the timcast or the first hundred people

that showed up to alabama to that field the other night let me have the country run by that than these experts and we're going to have a country that's decent, hardworking, understands human nature, and doesn't get into these crazy situations. This is all the experts, conservative neocons, liberal neocons, right? All the experts, all the think tanks go back and look at their lies. This is not miscalculation. This is lies. They lied.

They lied. They lied. And who paid for it? In Section 60 over there in Arlington National Cemetery, it's the kids of the working class. That's who's over there. Who's the one with the PTSD? Who are having suicidal thoughts? By and large, kids of the working class.

Who's going back over in harm's way, the 6,500 they had to put in? Who are the Afghanis throwing the babies up to? The Afghanis are voting right now what they think about Judeo-Christian values and about the deplorables. They're tossing their kids up. Hey, I'm finished.

I'm done. The Taliban is going to get me, but save my kid. Do you think that – or I kind of feel like one of the reasons they lied to Trump, tried to keep our troops in Afghanistan, was to prevent people finding out what was really – they were just trying to kick the can down the road. Yeah. And by the way, remember they showed him, McMaster showed him like mini skirts in the 70s. Oh, yeah. You know, before this all happened, this was like a modern Western nation.

No, it wasn't. This is not even a country. It's 50 tribes. Yeah. And the three big ones, the Uzbeks, the Tajiks, and the Pashtuns are at each other's throats. Right? This is not something. Look, he beat Alexander the Great.

That's where he died. Okay? The British. Remember the 16,000 man army? He has 16,000 man army. They let one guy come through to tell the tale. They left from Kabul to go out through the

Khyber Pass. The Russians. It destroyed. The Russian Empire collapsed. This is how empires collapse. You know why it collapses? Because working people sit there and go, I'm not believing this anymore. I don't buy it. I'm not buying into this. You know why?

Because they treat me like – here's what they think about American citizens. They think you're trash. It's not Steve Bannon saying that. It's they're leaving you back in Kabul. Exactly. They're leaving you in Kabul. Are you a priority to get out? No, they're leaving you.

Who's doing it? Who is responsible for making the call that's making the American government print all this money, drop their troops, and send their troops overseas? I mean, Dick Cheney, Halliburton was a big corporate. Wall Street, the global corporations, Wall Street, the donor class, and the uniparty. And you have a uniparty. Look, you had 19 Republicans sign up for this infrastructure bill, which is under a third infrastructure. Here's the thing with infrastructure.

They mock Trump on MSNBC. Oh, it's infrastructure week. Ha, ha, ha. Trump's thesis was different. It had to pay for itself. This thing has, by the Congressional Budget Office, the first bill, the $1.2 trillion, $286 billion unpaid for. New York Times saying $400 billion.

And I would say the rest of it, they say pay for it is all voodoo. It's not paid for. Okay? It's not paid for. Okay? It's not paid for. Let's talk about the collapse. So you said, you just mentioned Soviet Union collapses just after Afghanistan. Yes. We are an empire of sorts, right?

We've become an empire, yes. So is Afghanistan going to be our demise, do you think? I think that unless working class people step up and look at what's happened in the Rio Grande Valley, if working class people step up and say no more, not my kids, not my money, we're going to take charge of this, we're going to get back to some basic fundamentals, and we're not going to retreat into Fortress America. I'm not going to retreat to Fortress America. We've got to have – we will be throughout the world, right? But not like we are today in everybody's business, spread out all over hell's half acre, sticking our nose in everywhere. We will be, and we have to confront

the existential threat, which is the Chinese Communist Party. Okay, we have to do that. And by the way, I've said, and there's the philosophy, is unconventional warfare, right? You have economic and cyber. You have information and cyber and economic, right? Then you have kinetic. We are hurtling towards kinetic war in the South China Sea and Taiwan, even as we speak. So I want to bring up this tweet from Elon Musk that we saw earlier. Daily Mail says Elon Musk posts cryptic tweet about the quote son of

the old world setting in a dying blaze of splendor he tweeted the guns of august it's a book um about the early stages of world war one he followed it up with a tweet with a lord of the rings reference he's not responded to comments about what he meant, but he said nine rings for mortal men following after he said that. Well, the guns of August are very prophetic. I mean, the following quote was one of the guys trying to negotiate a peace to make sure we didn't go to war was said the lights of Europe are going to go out never to be relit in my lifetime. Remember 1914, what happened with the assassination in Serbia in late July, excuse me, late June. Basically, five weeks later, they had these treaties and the mobilization. It kind of took on a life of its own.

And actually, we were drawn to a war. From August of 1914, that war did not end until the fall of the Berlin Wall. That's why the 20th century is the most bloody century in mankind's history. When they look back at it, we lived it. You in this audience, some of you were born in what will be called a modern dark age. 250 million people died, were slaughtered in the 20th century through war, starvation of what happened in August. That's why the guns of August. Anybody who wants to read Barbara Tuchman's book will see when the experts, when the

experts know everything. Remember, Europe was 100 years apiece since Napoleon was finished. It was a great industrial, remember, the steam engine, we exploded on industrial production, everything. The wealthiest the world's ever been, the most traded the world's ever been, the most united the world's ever been, a globalized system, the world, it cratered. The Victorian values cratered before our eyes until a sea of barbarity, okay, that ended with, you know, the Kermar Rouge and Mao Zedong and all that, and eventually Afghanistan, which brought down the Soviet Empire, and eventually to the Berlin Wall. That, from 1914 to 1989, the bloodiest, the short 20th century,

the bloodiest century in mankind's history. And Elon Musk, who's a smart guy, I think is sitting there. Is this new globalization order, is it going to be, is Afghanistan, is that the guns of August? In other words, is that the assassination in Serbia that leads the dominoes? And quite frankly, people ought to be very concerned. And right now, you should be cutting off the football and cutting off the baseball, and you should be watching the news, and you should be thinking, what is going on here? What is going to change in my life? What's

going to change in my children's lives, right? Have you been tracking the food shortages? Pretty scary. Yeah. How does it affect you? A lot of people might not notice, depending on what... I think a lot of people might be noticing. You go to Taco Bell, for instance, and they've got a sign-up saying, we don't have these food items. You go to Starbucks and say, we don't have these food items. I'm trying to order food for my pets, and they're like, this is out. This can't be bought. Went to the pet store, and it was like $50 for cat food.

It's getting harder and harder to secure and supply these things, you know, combined with the labor. We've had the greatest increase in prices, I think, in 50 years, right? It's not transitory. The Federal Reserve says, oh, it's not transitory, don't worry about it. But any transitory, particularly working class, you're getting eaten alive. We knew it wasn't. Those of us who have been tracking this, I'm sure you,

knew that these prices would stay up. The idea that, oh, don't worry, it's just plain ketchup. You're betters. You say that, but you're betters. The governors of the Federal Reserve, all the economists, they sat there two months, a month ago and said, no, you're wrong, Tim Poole. This is transitory. Right. It's just a slight blip.

Lying. Everything's fine. You're not an expert. Go back in your cave. Go back and shut up and sit down. Pay your taxes. Put your pension money in. That will grease the system.

We'll control all the assets. And you're going to pay us rents because you're going to pay the carrying cost. This is one of the reasons I got out of the cities. I lived in New York, and then there was protests, and things were getting bad, and then some cops got assassinated in front of my apartment over on Myrtle and Nostrand, right on there. Tompkins, I think it was. And so I said, you know, maybe it was political.

It was a black nationalist killing cops. He said, you take two of ours, we take two of yours. And so I said, maybe I shouldn't live in this city because, you know, I've already seen the protests and I see the escalation happening before my eyes. I move over to the Jersey side. I'm like, you know, I'll still work in the city, but I'll stay out of the density of things. And then there were bombs planted in Manhattan and Jersey City. And I said, OK, maybe I should move a little the Jersey side. I'm like, you know, I'll still work in the city, but I'll stay out of the density of things. And then there were bombs planted in Manhattan and Jersey City. And I said, OK, maybe I should move a little bit further away. Then, you know, I end up going to South Jersey.

I see the riots, the Black Lives Matter riots, the George Floyd riots. And I said, yeah, well, we're on the other side of the river from Philly, so we're fine. Then I heard the helicopters and they started coming into the suburbs, the protests, the riots. And I was like, they crossed the bridge. You know what? I'm not going to sit around to wait and find out where the escalation leads to. And so we ultimately end up going out to the West Virginia, you know, we're in the Harper's

Ferry area, which is not the middle of nowhere. Mind you, it's like an hour from the airport, but I'm still thinking like we need space. We need to have our own water source because the world may not be ending. I don't know. But the point is, I want to just make sure that when whatever ends up happening, be it a disaster or crisis or something in the United States, I have taken responsibility for myself because the worst case scenario is we got a great place. We got trees. We got deer walking around. It's beautiful. It's fresh air. We have our own well. And you know what? Maybe it's good to prepare for some kind of

chaos that may ensue. Maybe it will never happen. Well, the worst case scenario is fresh air and clean water. How about that? I don't know what you're thinking. Are you, you know, about cities? Well, I think, look, people have to make individual decisions, individual choices. I think one of the things that people

have to do is to get sources of information and check them out and verify them. But much of what you're being told is just not accurate. 30 days later, it changes. 60 days later, it changes. You were told this inflation is intransitory. It's just not because the asset classes, the assets. And by the way, people are putting money into commodities. Food prices are going up.

This is the most massive unfair tax for working class people and you're going to see a revolt that's why biden's handling the economy is down now into the 40s and sometimes in the 30s depending on who the demographic by the way for the other day in an economist poll not the war room and not tim pool the economist you gov poll had the cross tabs which by the way most of these polls today do not put out the cross tabs because they don't want to see how bad when you get into the details. The Economist did. 250 pages. Steve Cortez and Raheem Kassam went through it.

And they had in the Hispanic looking at Hispanics. Biden's handling the economy. Excellent. Zero point zero. First time I've ever seen a double odd in a poll. Usually you get something. Biden's handling the economy excellent. 0.0. First time I've ever seen a double odd in a poll. Usually you get something. 0.0. Excellent.

Okay. People are wising up to it because they see the reality of their lives. And all you have to do to think about these experts, think about what they told you about the economy. Think of what they've told you about what's happening on the southern border. Think of what they've told you about the economy. Think of what they've told you about what's happening on the southern border. Think of what they've told you about the vaccines. Think of what they told you about the CCP virus and the origins of this virus in Wuhan. Think about that. Think about every day. It's all a nutcase conspiracy theory. Then you get more information and all of a sudden it's not. Okay. Think about this war. Think of what you were told about Afghanistan. Think about what

you were told about the American citizens left there. Just think about what you're told and then later what you find out to be right. And it's not marginally. People can make mistakes. It's the exact opposite of what you were told. Don't you remember, or I don't know if you can actually remember, the feeling of being totally disassociated from politics and what was going on and you just watched football. You went to the bar. You had pizza. Wasn't it that warm, fuzzy feeling where you'd wake up and just do your routine? It's all gone, isn't it? It's a fourth turning.

That's a pre-fourth turning. This is what a fourth turning is. We're in the maelstrom right now. We're in the maelstrom. And the whole watching football and kind of living in a haze of glory, we were on the back of slaves. We were living off the back of slaves the whole time. We just didn't know. But it's the,

exactly. It's the ignorance. You are, you, you are basking in the bliss of ignorance and more and more. That's what they want you to be. Remember that most of what's happened, this is what's so powerful.

I want to go back to the apes and why they hate the apes so much. What are the apes doing this so bad? They're buying American companies and holding the stocks. Okay. They're, they're racist. They're nativists. They're, they're, they're, they're market manipulators. They're buying American companies and holding the stocks. Okay. They're racist. They're nativists. They're market manipulators.

The press beats on these people all day. You know why? Because they're crowdsourcing knowledge. They want you to be an idiot. They want you to look at the pro wrestling. Think about it a second. All the major events that have really happened, 9-11, the war in Iraq, the financial implosion in 2008, the market, these things. How at the time that you go back and look at what was covered on cable TV, it's all pro-wrestling.

In the foreground, they want you distracted, not just with entertainment, but even the stuff they say is serious politics is all pro-wrestling. It doesn't matter. Where the power things, that's what this Bloomberg article, we're going to get to. Read it. $838 million an hour, okay? $4 trillion, and that didn't even start it, and it's not going to get reversed unless you throw down hard and reverse it. You ever hear about the debt ceiling? They don't want you to know about that.

They don't want you to know that you have the power to say no. They want you to be an idiot. Did you know the U.S. is liquidating its assets to try and cover costs because of the debt ceiling? Okay, we talked about, okay, the debt ceiling. We're the only show I think to pick up, even the business press didn't, when Yellen. Remember, she's the only person I believe to be chairman of the Federal Reserve and secretary of the treasury. Okay. So in those circles, she's very highly regarded. She gives testimony right before 4th of July and says, oh, by the way,

you know, on July 31st, the debt, debt ceiling, and we will default on government securities on August 15th. I go, oh, my God. We will default. Last time I looked, that means you're bankrupt, okay? And you see there that – and here's the games they play, and this is what the unit party plays. She's got to shuffle around. They go through the 31st and increase the debt ceiling. And what are they doing?

They're playing three-card money. They're taking money from Social Security. They're not putting money into government pensions. They're going out and getting tomato cans in the back of the Federal Reserve. Where's the cash? No, they're doing everything they can do. And remember, these are your betters. These are the people that think you're an idiot and treat you like an idiot.

These are supposed to be the geniuses. This is all the McKinsey consultant, Booz Allen. They went to the best law schools, the best business schools. They're your betters. Your betters got us Afghanistan. And the deplorables are over in Arlington National Cemetery. Your betters are sitting there on the think tanks and on MSNBC, and they're giving these proclamations.

And the deplorables' kids are on those planes going in there to 6500 to try to save American citizens and they're the ones on the receiving ends of the Afghani kids that are being tossed over barbed wire. That's the same thing here. You're betters. Now they're running around getting cash out of the tomato cans in the back of the Federal Reserve

to kick the can down the road until they get back from vacation. They can't handle it in August. August is recess. We're coming back after September 20th. Then they're going to have this false deadline on October 1st, and here's the beauty of it. It's going to be your fault.

The deplorable is, oh my gosh, you're going to blow up the capital markets, the debt markets. We're going to default on security. You're the problem. You're the problem. They're not the problem.

How do you get us in here $28 trillion? And now they're talking about another $6 trillion, and there's going to be a $6 trillion on top of that and top of that here's why as long as they can keep printing and the only way they can keep printing the full faith and credit of the united states government is you it's not them it's you on your back okay because you're going to owe it back on your back they're going to keep printing and printing printing and zero interest rates the asset classes keep going and who owns owns the assets? They do. They own the real estate. They own the stocks. You own nothing. 50% of the American people can't put $400 in cash together, cash together for an emergency. You're two paychecks away from oblivion. You don't own

anything and you're not going to own anything. This is the system that has, I'm a capitalist, this system has to be dismantled. And it can be dismantled by the American people if we act today. Do you think that the American people are looking at a future much like how the Chinese citizens live where you're effectively doing slave labor for trash prices? Tim Pool, you can't say what we want to say on here because you could be taken off by a social media oligarch. Let's be brutally frank. That's right. If you and I had the real conversation that you want to have here and you're smart enough and your staff's smart enough, that's not the conversation. Totally. Okay. Why? Because the social media oligarchs, they have the ability

to take off a sitting president and shut him up. That's why it's more powerful. Miles Gross said this. He told me years ago, he said, social media is more powerful than nuclear weapons. I go, what are you talking about? He goes, nuclear weapons, if Beijing launches one to you, you're going to launch two back and it'll stop. Social media, they can shut down anybody, including a commander in chief, and that's what they did. They will shut you down. If you get out of line, the social credit scores scores what do you think the vaccine passports are the vaccine mandates is your first social credit score right you can't go in a restaurant and eat and watch in new york city

you can't get on an airplane you can't go you can't go where you want in this country there's no social credit score this is state capitalism and authoritarianism and it's come here today in this country we were talking with ben Ben Stewart about the fourth turning. And one of the ideas of the fourth turning is that in every fourth turning, the most powerful weapons available at the time will be used in the conflict. Yes. And I said, that's not nuclear weapons. It's social media. Boom.

The ability. So I've long talked about this. She knows that. That's why Jack Ma is looking for a job right now. He cut him right off at that. Why do we go to war? Why was violence used? They were trying to gain control of something.

They wanted something. They would take it or they hate it. There are often ideological things. But a lot of war is resources. I mean I think it's funny how many people died throughout human history to make food taste better, for instance. You know, all the spices and the trades and everything that led to conflict. How many emperors were built on that? Right, right, right. But what happens when

you no longer need to use physical or kinetic force to command someone to your will? Well, why expend the energy cost when you can instead perhaps pay people 50 cents to post propaganda in their free time exactly because it's cyber it's cyber and information warfare just like economic warfare

kinetic warfare is the most is the most inefficient right you only do kinetic warfare and when you have overwhelming odds but i think we're sliding to kinetic war because i think we're weak but you're right the biggest power is information cyber you can if you can convince the enemy nation to lay down their arms and wave to you and cheer as you enter and you don't need to waste money on on kinetic weapons and if you can convince the populace to pay you a percentage of their income then you don't have to make them slaves because they're already you're already making money you've you've you've fractionalized the slavery instead of having one free person who is running a business and one slave, make them all 40%. By the way, this is what Wall Street does today.

If you take – this is a scam of money managers. I don't think there's any money managers over time that have outperformed S&P 400. That's why all these instruments came up. You can just basically buy the market as a tracker stock because they haven't overperformed just buying the market and how the American economy grows and how stocks relate to that. Yet your pension fund money, and that's every nurse, every cop, every union member, your money is institutional money. It's managed.

The Wall Street guys get a fee of 1% or 2% on assets under management. And when you're talking billions, that's real money. That's how they get the house and the Hamptons and the big parties, but they get 20% of the ups off your money. And here's what they did with that. They shipped the jobs to China. They shipped the jobs to China on your nickel. The great tragedy part of this is that working class people of both political persuasions, you paid for it all. Your taxes and your pension funds are what paid for this whole thing. The whole thing. You have the ultimate power. All power resides with working class people in this country. And that's the thing they don't want you to know because you have the power. It's your money. It's your money. And you could throw these

bums out. And that's why they put the pro wrestling to divide you in the foreground, because they don't want to talk about the Bloomberg article today. They don't really want to walk through what's in these six trillion dollars of spending. It's a 2700 page bill. Has anybody explained that bill to you? Has anybody sat there and said, let me take an hour and walk you through where $1.25 trillion that you and your kids are going to pay back, let's at least have enough respect for you that we'll explain it to you. No, you will not see that anywhere because they're never going to do it. You know why? They understand an informed electorate is informed consent, right? They don't want that. They want you to be distracted by the bread and circuses on one level of pop entertainment.

But also when you get into politics or it's cable news, it's all pro wrestling. It's not the thing itself. If it was the thing itself, we wouldn't have these kind of issues that pop up out of nowhere. Let's go to Super Chats. And I'm going to try and find – I'm going to try and focus on good questions for Steve so you can usually we'll just read a lot and no disrespect to a lot of people super chatting I'm going to try and go for the good questions A couple of snarky ones are good

No, I just mean there's a lot where people have comments about ideas for the show or a cast, but I want to try and get to good topics that we can best utilize your time. We have one from Nathan O'Connell He says, Tim, love your show. Just want to remind you the naval ship that burnt down in San Diego was set fire by a sealed

dropout. If you think America is ready for global conflict, let me just say we are repairing our carriers with Chinese stainless steel. This is a brilliant thing. A $4 billion Bonhomme Richard. A $4 billion capital ship burned down

and we don't even know if it's that guy, but they say it's that guy. One person burned it down at a dock, and nobody's held responsible. Nobody wants to talk about it. This shows you the rot in the system. There should be admirals fired about this. We should get to the bottom of it. I still do not believe, having been a naval officer at the 32nd Street Naval Station in San Diego, that a single guy can start a fire on a ship that can burn

down a $4 billion capital ship. What's the name of the ship? The Bonhomme Richard. That sounds like what they do at the Reichstag. One guy burned down the Reichstag is the official story, but apparently impossible. Exactly. That's a great question, though. By the way, that should be investigated.

I think there are independent people out there investigating it. All right. We have Arian Amicus says, I work for a restaurant question, though. By the way, that should be investigated. And I think there are independent people out there investigating it. All right. We have Arian Amicus says, I work for a restaurant chain in Minnesota. We are having trouble getting food and even the deliveries to the point where our orders do come through, half the order is missing. I don't know. Where do you think we're headed in that regard? Listen, I think the inflation is not transitory. I think we have big supply issues.

I think the system is out of whack, and I think you're going to see more of this. Look, I think prices have not exploded like they're going to explode. And remember, let me say one thing about inflation. Steve Cortez said this today on the show. The reason I really got involved in politics, I made a film on Reagan, but hadn't made one, and that was in 2004, hadn't made one until the financial crisis. And I said, hey,

whenever you've had a financial crisis, you always have a populist reaction to that. And this will be interesting. This really could be the rise of populism, right? But what you've seen in the past, when hyper, when inflation starts, and then inflation starts to get some momentum,

on homogeneous societies, homogenous societies, right, that it's still been massive disruption. We are a disputative society right now. We're kind of like a dumpster fire in a lot of regards at each other's throats. If you start to have inflation start to hit and then even mini hyperinflation. Katie, bar the door. Yes. We have no earthly idea. And this is why we're playing with fire.

These people on Wall Street, these people in the government are playing with fire. And this is why you need working class people to step up and say, I'm going to run for office. Throw these bums out. We can't do this because the inflation doesn't affect them. You think it affects the wealthy? It stuffs a little high stuffs a little more. So it's eight bucks to put into their Land Rover SUV.

It kills the working mom that's working two jobs. That takes away all the juice she's gotten two paychecks when she's working 14, 15 hours a day and half a day on Saturday. It doesn't bother the wealthy. It doesn't bother the global. It doesn't bother the global

corporations. The entrepreneur gets squeezed. Remember, all the stuff that comes into the sources like the restaurant for the little entrepreneur is all made by the big corporations. They're benefiting from the inflation. They're benefiting from the inflation. Hey, guess what's not inflating at the same rate? Your wages.

Remember, the whole game here is to keep your wages down. The misallocation to returns on capital versus labor is the central issue. Since 1972, there's been no real wage increase except for 2019 under Trump. There's been no wage increase for the American worker. Look at the wealth that's been created in this nation since then. Have you participated in it? Have your children participated? I don't care your race, your ethnicity, your level of education, your religion, your gender,

your sexual preference. Since 1972, really the beginning of globalization, also coming off the gold standard, but the Arab oil embargo, all that, the American worker has taken it, has been shafted. Okay, has been shafted.

And all the wealth that's been created in this country, all the wealth that's been created by this country in other countries, all the middle classes of other nations, I have no problem with people coming into the middle class. All the wealth that's been created through the world on the back of the American worker, on the back, more importantly, of your pension fund, which you've got a taste of. Oh, yeah. Stop, Margo. You've got a taste. You've got a taste of. Oh, yeah, stop, Margo. You've got a taste.

You've got a taste. Okay? The things that I'm going to define is how do you start to take the returns to capital and start to put it to labor so that working class people, for your time, for your agency, for your human agency, that time in life you're here, how do you get paid more for it? And not just that, how are you able to keep more of the wealth that's created around your efforts? All right. Coldwater says, please look up what happened today at the Black Lives Matter Antifa conference in Portland. They were confronted by a woman whose husband was targeted by them.

All the cameras were rolling and it was epic. You know, recently we saw a clash with right wing groups and left wing groups in Portland. There was a shootout. Seems to be worse than we've seen in the past, although, you know, thankfully, I don't think nobody died. We have seen people killed. I'm curious. That's pro-wrestling. That's what they want you to vertify. That's total pro-wrestling. It's not meaningful.

It's a handful of people, and he said, yeah, you've got bad actors on each side. You've got some people that are there for the right reason. They have causes. It's pro-wrestling. They got you down there, and you're watching that, and you're watching the videos. You're deconstructing it. All the talk radio shows at night. Talk radio will be on it forever.

It doesn't matter. It's pro-wrestling. You know what matters? They're about to lay on $6 trillion that they're skimming off the top, all the lobbyists. Why are 19 Republicans voting for this? They're supposed to be the fiscally prudent ones. Why are they voting for this? Unpaid for.

You wouldn't do this for Trump. Trump had to pay for everything. The congressional budget, not War Room, not Bannon, not Tim Pool, $286 billion air pocket. New York Times, $400 billion. And I will tell you, if they had the decency to walk you through it, you would see that none of it's paid for. It's all lies. Okay? Why? The lobbyists are making out. Everybody's got their hand out and they spread it on to little districts, right? So you're going to get a crumb. You're going to get a crumb and

they're keeping the vigorous. That's the system. This is not a conspiracy. That's the way the system works. They want you to be an idiot. They want you to focus on BLM, attacking proud boys, a group of guys should be out drinking beer somewhere, beating up some other people, and they're beating them up, and all of a sudden we're going to spend all this time in it. That's the pro-wrestling. It's in the foreground. It's to divert your attention from what the reality is. All right. Derna, 1804,

says, if we spent $62 billion in Baltimore to build the city up, it would be the same result as Afghanistan. Crooked politicians would steal it and give it to their friends. It works the same everywhere. Okay. Crooked politicians would steal it and give it to their friends. It works the same everywhere. Okay. Point taken. But that's why you have action in Baltimore and in St. Louis and in Detroit to sit there

and take action, get citizens involved. And even if they skim 20% off the top, at least it's skimmed in America, okay? And roll back into the community. You're right, but you can have better. If you had spent the two trillion dollars here, and your great point, the opportunity cost, if you invested it in advanced fourth industrial manufacturing into these cities, yes, we would have a paradise, and that paradise is before us because we're still the most productive nation on earth. We're still the most wealthiest nation on earth, but we're

dissipating that. We're dissipating our blood and our treasure. Because remember, look at Afghanistan. At the end of the day, you are nothing but trash. You're trash that they can throw out. You can be discarded. You mean nothing to them. All you are is a thing to pay taxes, send your kids overseas, keep your mouth shut, and follow your mandates. That's what you are. They don't care about your opinion. In fact, your opinion bothers them. And what they'd rather do is have you look at the foreground of fighting each other so

that they can sit there, make the deals that they skim off the top, and have the greatest concentration of wealth and power in world history. You got me worked up, Paul. I don't get this worked up in the war room. I get it here. It must be Harper's Ferry, right? It's like the ghost of John Brown still here. It's getting me all worked up.

I think it's your producer. She's fire. All right. B says, Hartford, Connecticut Public Schools requiring all math teachers read and fill out an 83-page critical race praxis workbook. It says you can find the PDF at equitablemath.org. So, yeah, what do you think about what's going on in the context of everything? You mentioned Black Lives Matter, Antifa, Proud Boys Fights, Extraction. What do you think about the critical race applied principles?

Listen, we turned the entire public education system over to STEM, science, technology, engineering, math. Yet enough African-Americans and Hispanics just don't get into engineering schools and computers, and there's nobody working in Silicon Valley. That's why they've got to have these H-1 visas. And look, I love the Chinese. My show is all about the Lao Bai Jing and the Chinese.

I love China. I'm the chairman of the Republican Hindu Association. I love India and the Indians. But I want these jobs for Americans. Right now, African-Americans and Hispanics are plenty smart enough. What we have to do is be more rigorous in math, not less rigorous, more rigorous in math. They'll become the – remember, in fourth industrial revolution, so much of it is going to be in software. So much is going to be in programming.

Everybody's not going to be a programmer, but the fourth industrial manufacturing revolution is going to require our basic workers to step up to higher levels of knowledge. Our African-American and Hispanic communities have that, but not if you dumb it down and do soft racing with that. This is the greatest crime going.

They should participate. By the way, Silicon Valley and these jobs should be packed with African-Americans and Hispanics, not at 0.0. And the engineering schools should not take the foreign students. It's not that I don't love the foreign students, but I went to a land-grant university. The graduate school now, I think, is 75%. The reason is, and so here's the scam. In-state students pay in-state tuition.

Foreign students pay full ride, and the government's financing. The spread is what pays for these faculties. That's the scam. Your kids, because you're in-state, whether you're black, white, Hispanic, whatever, whatever your ethnicity or religion is, you're paying a going rate of this. The foreign students are paying a going rate that. That arbitrage paid for by foreign governments, that's why there's so many foreign students in these engineering schools. And look, don't get me wrong, I love by foreign governments, that's why there's so many foreign students in these engineering schools. And look, don't get me wrong, I love the foreign students, but American citizenship has to come.

All the burdens on you, your kids serve in the military, you pay the taxes, your pension fund funds everything. The whole burden is on your shoulders. You've got $400 in your bank account. Ninety percent of your net worth is tied up in your home equity, right? You're two paychecks away from oblivion and you know it. You get bounced out. You're two paychecks away from having to go get welfare, right? After being here for five, six, seven, eight generations,

you've got nothing to show for it. Yet all this wealth has been passed down. You've got nothing, right? They want the whole burden on you. And now they want to import the world to compete against your kids for those jobs. No. American citizenship has a premium. And let me be very simple. You get the first right to the best jobs. And you get a right to get out of a foreign country where your government's been there. And you're in some NGO and some progressive from Brown University who's working for female rights.

I got no problem with that. If that's what you dedicate your life to do in Afghanistan. But you know what? When it hits the fan, you're coming out first okay and now you're treated like trash and that's the problem in this country and when people get a belly full of it that my citizenship not only doesn't mean anything i get all the burdens when none of the upside and the whole world is supported on my shoulders because it is supported on your shoulders that's when you're going to have a revolution in this country. And that's when people are going to throw these bums out.

Tim Miner says, Steve, the four that you mentioned, Trump, Pence, Cuomo, and Newsom, DeSantis and Harris replaced Pence and Cuomo. When Newsom leaves, which Dem will replace him? I don't know. It's irrelevant. And look, Larry Ell is a fine guy. To me, it's irrelevant who replaces him. It's because you're there for six months. You've got to get in.

But it's very important that Newsom be resolved. And by the way, I totally disagree with Harris and with DeSantis. My point I'm making that you had four rock stars, and in this moment, they're all gone, or four people who are at the top of the game, and they're gone in a flash. Anything can happen now. The one thing about the fourth term that's the most important thing is go back and look at the top of the game, and they're gone in a flash. Anything can happen now. The one thing about the fourth term that's the most important thing is go back and look at the Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War II, and now we're in.

People who are total schmendricks you never heard of before. All the big actors get washed away. All the big actors for the Civil War get washed away, and you've got a railroad lawyer, Lincoln. You've got a guy fighting the Comanches down there in San Antonio, Texas, Robert E. Lee. You've got a drunk in Grant. You've got Sherman, who they think is crazy, running a military academy in Louisiana. These are all marginal players. They're marginal. They're super marginal, and they all become the major actors, just like in World War II,

just like in the Revolution. You're seeing it now nobody who's a temple is now you're one of the major people and and you've got a you've got a a community right that you drive information to on a daily basis this is what a fourth turning is about you're going to see all kind of people pop up right maybe dissented but you're going to see all people the type of people pop up that you didn't think of before they were all marginal donald j trump he's a perfect fourth turning character here's a guy that's a real estate mogul, a reality TV star, a guy that knows brands. And all of a sudden, not only is he president,

I think he's one of the most significant presidents. I put him up with Jackson, Lincoln, Roosevelt, and FDR, and Reagan. And people say, you're crazy. No. He changed the direction of this country. That's where he's going to come crazy. No. He changed the direction of this country. Okay?

That's where he's going to come back. But he's changed the direction of this country. And even if you hate the sound of his name, think of what the country was before the CCP virus hit and think of where it is today. Look around the world and look at all the bad actors. Xi, the mullahs in Iran, right? The Erdogan, Putin. Look at those actors on the Eurasian landmass compared to what they're doing. They're licking their chops at the end of America.

Jay Rich says, fast food restaurants are advertising up to $25 an hour in my area, Central Oregon. Inflation is hitting harder and harder. What is the end result of this? How long will it take? And what is the best way to invest a couple hundred K right now? Well, you never get financial advice. I never get financial advice.

No, what I would do about financial advice, here's what I would do. I tell everybody, go to these chat rooms and just hang out and listen to the apes and to the lectures they have. Learn the fundamentals and rudimentary elements of the system. Learn the system. You can't deconstruct it until you learn it. Learn about finance. Even if you're not mathematically inclined or you've never invested in your life,

there's information out there, and I think you see in these communities, there's a certain joy to learning. Particularly, they go out of their way not to teach you anything about personal finance. They go out of their way not to teach you anything about macrofinance. You don't know how the government works. You don't know how the money's funded. You don't know any of this. They want it in some sort of high priesthood so they can sit there

and pontificate from Wall Street and the Wall Street Journal and the editorial pages. It's all a scam. It's all a con. It's all your money. It comes off and gets back to coming off the sweat of your brow. That's what drives the value in this country. And yes, and here's what i like about the 25

dollars an hour this is what this is i'm a restrictionist on immigration you know why until we get everybody in a good job everybody in a good job we got enough okay everybody says oh we got to add you know why because they want to drive wages down if it takes 25 bucks to flip a burger and a burger costs more hey so be it if that cost is in the labor right that's why i'm a restrictionist so but this inflation i think and here's what's going to happen the more money they print the more money they print the higher the inflation is going to go and right now it's out of control in washington dc right now you see oh they got this she's cutting these deals she's doing all this they're coming. This is going to make you a Russian serf right now. This is going to make you an impoverished Russian serf.

This is like a 20% increase to the monetary supply if they print $6 trillion, which would mean 20% more inflation on top of what we'd already seen than I would imagine another printing beyond $6 trillion. There's not a direct correlation, but directionally, you're absolutely correct. That's the way you guys start thinking about it. Remember, there's three ways to pay for things. I just want to make sure people understand. There's three ways to pay for things in our government. You sell the bonds to Japanese insurance companies or the Chinese Communist Party who owns a trillion dollars.

And they're not doing it because they like us. They need that spread. They need that interest payment to pay for their things. Because our instruments do have returns on them, do have yields. And the Gulf Emirates. But that, you can only pay, they got an appetite. Their appetite can be sated, okay, fairly quickly.

Second way is you raise taxes. Or you don't have to raise them if you have a growth curve. We're in flat growth right now, okay? Flat growth. At least Trump gave you growth, right? The third way is you just print money, just literally make it up. The government basically the Treasury Department, the Federal Reserve buys the notes that are issued by the Treasury.

Well, how can you do that? The only way you can do that is because on your back, because everybody's got to take the dollar. It's where the prime reserve currency. The dollars drive the system. Once we become, once it's crypto, remember, the big deal in China is this deal with Saudi Arabia and the Persians. They already got a 40-year deal, a 25-year deal with Iran. They're trying to cut a long-term deal with Saudi Arabia's publicly traded company, which is upside down in a disaster, to do a long-term output deal, but take it in R&B, take it to break. Putin and these guys are thinking nonstop. How do we get off the dollar? Because this is the way the Americans can still control us. Once that happens, ladies and gentlemen, we're Argentina. What do I mean by that? Argentina 100 years ago was one of the wealthiest nations on earth. It was a paradise. It's been a disaster for a hundred years. And you had Peron and fascists and everything. It's been a disaster. Why? Because they printed too much

money. They got debt out of control. And that's where we're heading. And by the way, look at Afghanistan and look at it, watch it every night. Because the financial debacle, all your betters, all the geniuses told you for 20 years and $2 trillion and 6,000 dead and 25,000 wounded and people with PTSD. They all told you it's fine. We're building a democracy and they're voting. It's all great. And the Taliban's gone. All of it.

It was all lies. When the financial firestorm comes, it's going to be 10x what Afghanistan is in your personal life, and they're going to tell you the same crap. Right? You're betters. You're betters. You're betters. If they're so smart, why are we in this mess? This one's interesting.

Mr. M says, Tim, I have a friend that works in shipping cargo containers. In 2019, he said a container would cost $2,000 to ship. This year, it's $21,000. Hello. That's going to hit all of the goods. You to get imported hello yeah hello supply chain cost yeah hello yeah we we we looked at a lot uh over at timcast.com we deep dive into the food supply stuff it's scary stuff by the way this is the best thing about shows like this the crowdsourcing and knowledge like that putting it up this is from your own personal life, your own personal.

You don't need the big textbooks at Harvard and all these professors. Just look around you in your own personal life. You're seeing it today in every aspect of your professional and personal life. All right. Nicholas Karakapa says, question for Steve. Is it possible to establish a microchip manufacturing base here in the U.S.? Is this a project Steve can start? This would bring high-tech manufacturing jobs to the U.S., reduce the fallout if China takes Taiwan, and potentially avoid a

conflict with China. That's a brilliant question. By the way, so in the infrastructure bill, there is $20 billion we're trying to do it. Navarro and I fought for this in the summer of 17. We were actually thwarted around President Trump by the free market guys. Remember, I'm not a free market guy because there are no free markets. It's all mercantilism, right? We need to bring, and I think in conjunction with the Taiwanese, look, have we run out of time? Maybe. But, yes, you're absolutely correct. We've got to bring back advanced chip design and advanced chip design manufacturing to the United States.

I've got a perfect example. Arizona, Navajo Nation, right, up at Tuba City. Let's make it the microchip capital of the world. This is why I believe in economic nationalism. This is what we have to start thinking of. This is what we have to start focusing on. These type of things, and you would be surprised. That brilliant observation, and it's brilliant, is thwarted by so many people. Oh, we can't do that. free markets, you don't want to enter into free markets. Well, no, it's not a free market. And right now we're exposed strategically,

strategically, in the most vulnerable thing we can, advanced chip design, because that gentleman's observations have not been put into effect for 20 years. We might be able to build software and technology that lets you print your chips in your house so everyone has access to the information and can print whatever chips they need on demand. It wouldn't be as much of a profit thing for the country, but it would probably be better for humanity to decentralize the information. If you can invent a printer that can do all of that in one go.

Like a print paper with – I mean, just talk about graphing. Let's go. Dude, I knew he was going to get in there coming... I knew he was going to get in there. I knew he was going to get in there somewhere. I knew he was going to get in there somewhere. Are you like... Are they a sponsor of yours? Yeah.

Big graphene. Big graphene, man. Is he a lobbyist? You're a lobbyist for graphene? I'm starting the lobby today. No, I'm serious. There's something hinky here. It'll raise a lot of money, Steve.

We got a... Summer Arbogast says, what does a social score look like? How do you think a social credit score would would manifest? Well, I think I think a social credit score right now in China, you actually have it right where you can't get on a plane. You can't do things. Your kids can't go to school. So they keep a score.

Are you asking questions? Do your neighbors think you're too nosy in the party's affairs? Here's a social credit score. Let's start off with it. It's it's it's going to be the vaccine passport. That's going to score. Are you vaccinated or not? Boom. That's that's going to be apar vaccine passport. That's going to be the score. Are you vaccinated or not? Boom.

That's going to be apartheid. You're going to be othered. You're going to be in the leper colony, right, immediately. So social credit score is going to look at right there. I don't know what the ratings are going to be, but you're already seeing lines of demarcation. Remember, look at how many people are associated with President Trump that have been deplatformed on social media, have been debanked, right? Have been across the board. You know this.

If you start going out there and start being a fire breather, they're going to make it tougher and PayPal and these other situations to actually run your business. That's all social credit score. Right. Okay? So it's not coming to the United States. It's here. We have social credit store here in the United States of America right now. And there's no court.

You can go back and argue about it. It just is. Look at Dave Rubin. On Twitter, all of America right now, and there's no court. You can go back and argue about it. It just is. Look at Dave Rubin. On Twitter, all of a sudden you're banned. You're gone. You don't know for a way. You're in jail. He was just temporarily suspended.

Just temporarily, but you don't know the ground rules. You get back up in a couple of weeks, but you can be banned permanently. Look, I was banned permanently on the War Room. I've never had a Twitter account. There's 100 fake ones out there, but on ones we had on the War Room, they said, oh, because you said things about Faucici and and chris ray metaphorical things i was talking about thomas moore a couple days before but the real reason we were banned is we were putting out the hard drive from hell every day we would put out both the porn and the in the end and in the compromise by the chinese communist party what they were paid they wanted that out and they took the whole thing down permanently permanently banned

all right and we'll get into a lot of that stuff, obviously, at TimCast.com in the member segment, which I'm excited for. But we still have some really good questions. I think I'm going to pay for that tonight. Yeah? Great. I want to see that investment. All right. Because I want to know the graph.

I want to know the punchline of the graph. We're going to get to it. We're going to do it. This is a good one, though. Freeze Falcon says, Mr. Bannon, what is your opinion on Mr. Kushner's peace deals in the Middle East? Do you hear from Kushner at all? Rumor has it he wants back in. Well, what do you think about the peace deals?

Here's what I think. Look, the Abraham Accords, which came up in the last thing, were they perfect? No. But, man, directionally, were they fantastic? Would you rather have that and have countries talking to Israel, have countries having flights, trying to work together in the region, not at each other's throats? What we're leaving behind in Afghanistan is a terrorist super state. have countries having flights, trying to work together in the region, not at each other's throats? Or what's happening in the – what we're leaving behind in Afghanistan is a terrorist super state. The Haqqani Network's there.

ISIS is there. Al-Qaeda's there. The Taliban is there. Yes, I would rather have what President Trump – listen, let's be blunt. If that was Obama, they would give him another Nobel Prize, okay? These guys hammered, and Jared hammered, and the team that worked on it, Avi and these guys hammered it out. And as imperfect as it is, it's a fantastic start. And I think the first time in the history of the region people actually tried.

These are not all great actors actually started to work together. Would people rather have the Middle East like it was back in the fall of 2019 when they're getting ready to announce the Abraham Accords and working on it? Or would you rather have it today when you're going to start to see American citizens hunted down by the Taliban and our allies there? And who knows what happens to the women, to the children, all that? Tell me which one you'd rather have. I'll pick the Abraham Accords. All right. Christopher Coulter says, Steve comments remind me of three great books. Blink by Malcolm Gladwell, The Wisdom of Crowds by James Surowiecki,

and Future Babble by Dan Gardner. They all explain the limits of expertism and why so-called experts should always be questioned. Read them all. Yes. Also, I think as Lehman had a book back in the 90s, really started questioning the experts. Forget the name of Christopher Lash who died.

Christopher Lash, a brilliant guy. Christopher Lash wrote the first book that really kicked it off about getting to a managerial economy where the experts told you what to do. So those three right there are fantastic. All right. Rainer Chen says, while America is struggling to get its citizens out of Afghanistan, where the experts told you what to do. So those three right there are fantastic. All right. Rainer Chen says, while America is struggling to get its citizens out of Afghanistan,

China just took control of multiple iron mines in Africa and Peru. Neither interventionism nor isolationism can save America. Learn Mandarin, guys. You going to learn Mandarin? No, I'm not going to learn mandarin by the way because because the lao bai jing no manner remember it's their freedom that we're fighting for this transnational criminal organization the chinese people lao bai jing throughout their history they don't want to be in africa they don't want to be doing this they don't want to be spending trillions of dollars

which they're getting ripped off too they they live like slaves the suicide rates in these factories are out of control the social conditions conditions, the environment, it's awful. Remember, they've killed, the Chinese Communist Party's killed 90 million people. We know this. They've killed, they've murdered 90 million since 1949. They're an illegitimate government because they lied about everything. No land reform, nothing. But more importantly, they've butchered, murdered 400 million forced abortions.

Okay? The hungry ghost of the babies of China is what haunts this regime. They're a murderous dictatorship. The biggest victims are the Chinese people. So no, intervention doesn't work, but

we shouldn't be intervening. However, we have to confront this criminal organization that's out to control the world. They are organization that's out to control the world. They are. They're out to control the world. And by the way, you see their gangsterism spreading. You see it in Pakistan.

You see it now in Afghanistan with the Taliban and the other terrorists. You're going to see it in Turkey. You already see it in the Mullahs, what they're trying to do in the Persian Gulf and maybe some of the less democratic regimes there. Right? You're seeing it in partnership with Russia. They're trying to control the Eurasian landmass. And by the way, go back to the guns of August. Since 1914, the basic foreign policy of the United States,

regardless of Republican or Democrat, we will never allow one power or a combination of powers to control the Eurasian landmass. That's essentially the world island. If you really look at the planet as it is, the Western Hemisphere is a small island off of this massive landmass. It's the Eurasian landmass. Mackinder kind of 101, who controls the Eurasian landmass, can control the world.

The Chinese Communist Party is set to do it. And that's why with us on the run in Afghanistan, and I'm the biggest believer in we had to end that war and get out. But you've got to do it in a certain way. They're looking right now to drive us out of the Pacific and to basically destroy our economy by an attack on Taiwan. I'm going to do one more. And it's a really important one. Chip Bradley says, Tim, I ran and won a seat on my city council in large part because of you and your crew. Thank you for the encouragement. Amen. Yes. That's the most important. By the way, that's the way we're going to turn this around. If I go to your committee meetings, whether if you're a Republican, take over the RNC.

If you're a Democrat, go take over the Democratic Party, okay, with populism. Go to city council. Go to your school board. Action, action, action. All politics is local. The whole apparatus depends on these localities. That's where you can get real power. So right there, that is the coolest thing I've heard. That is what's going to lead us to the sunlit uplands.

And we can get there, but it's going to be, we're going to have to chop a lot of wood to get there. My friends, there is a lot that we need to talk about. Some inside jokes, as well as some very serious topics that are no-no topics on YouTube, which means go to TimCast.com, become a member. Usually we upload around 11 p.m., but we might end up running longer. We'll see. We'll see how things play out.

But if you go to TimCast.com, we'll have that member segment up for you where we talk about a lot of these very serious issues. You can also follow the show at TimCastIRL on basically every platform. You can follow me at TimCast if you want to follow me personally. Oh, yeah, like the video, share it, subscribe and everything. Do you want to shout out anything? We're on Getter. The War Room's on Getter. I'm on Getter, but I don't know my Getter handle.

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That was really good info. Always good to see you, Stephen. Good to see you. Hey, thanks for coming. Ian Crosland, follow me on the internet at IanCrosland, iancrosland.net. Catch you later. The first hour flew by. I thought both hours flew by.

That was a very revolutionary conversation with Mr. Bannon, I have to say. You guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter, not getter yet, at SarahPatchLids as I attempt to gain more followers than Sarah Patch Kids. You may be the best producer in the business. I'm serious. She's smooth. She's good. Everything's organized. When you come here with Tim, everything's organized. It's all set. There's no...

We say every day at the War Room Without Tears, I kind of get a little antsy there. Our team's great, but I have a tendency to get a little antsy. They're listening downstairs. of get a little antsy there. Our team's great, but I have a tendency to get a little antsy. They're listening downstairs. I get a little, they're laughing. You're the calming presence.

I got to say, time flies, but I'm really excited for this next conversation over at TimCast.com. So check it out. Thanks for hanging out. Again, go to TimCast.com,

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