Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #362 - The Afghan War Is OVER, Biden Leaves Americans Behind w/Libby Emmons
Episode Date: August 31, 2021Tim, Ian, and Lydia join friend and editor-in-chief of the Post Millennial Libby Emmons to analyze how the Afghanistan war ended, new video out of the country purported to show the Taliban joyriding i...n American military gear, Biden's broken promise to leave no Americans behind, Democrat demands for phone records as their January 6th debacle continues, and Fauci's declaration that the US will have booster shots for the Covid vaccine within five months. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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After nearly 20 years, it is officially the end of the Afghan war as declared by the United States.
I don't think it's fair to say that the war is officially over in a certain sense,
because there's still going to be very serious conflict between warring factions.
There are still Americans being left behind. Many people are criticizing Joe Biden because
he promised this wouldn't be the case, and now they're saying it will be the case. There's a lot
to discuss there.
And I do think we're dealing with some very serious problems and obviously a very serious
crisis.
But I'm not convinced, you know, it's fair to say that the U.S. has finally ended the
war so much as they just abruptly left mid evacuation because the Taliban has overrun
the Kabul airport and they can no longer maintain the position.
So, sure, the war is over and a resounding defeat that will lead to chaos. And I'll tell you,
when you see these videos, Taliban flying helicopters walking through the airports,
do you think they will be able to maintain that infrastructure and that economy? No,
I think Afghanistan is going to start to look like Syria really soon, but far be it from me to actually be an expert, I mean, to act like I'm an expert on this.
We are but humble Internet people complaining about things, and we've not been over there.
So we definitely, you know, we've had some veterans in the past, but we'll talk about the best of our abilities because certainly we're allowed to have opinions.
But I want to make sure that's clear.
I don't think anyone here is going to pretend to be an expert having deployed or actually experienced any of this stuff.
So take it with a grain of salt.
There's a lot of other stuff we can talk about, too, which we will get into.
But we've got to talk about Afghanistan.
Joining us today is the wonderful Libby Emmons.
Hi.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm the editor-in-chief with The Postmillennial.
Glad to be here.
Right on.
Welcome back.
Thanks.
Sup, Libby.
How's it going?
I'm concerned about this.
I'm concerned about a couple things.
One is the way that it's been framed that we completed the withdrawal when it looks
like we just stopped.
It didn't look like anything got completed.
It just ended with this, what seems like an arbitrary outdate of the 31st.
I don't understand why he would rush things out, leave all this equipment behind, and
leave our allies behind.
The leaving of the equipment behind, I think, is pretty egregious.
Also, the shuttering of the Air Force Base, instead of keeping that open and not having
to go through the civilian airport, that seems like that was really poorly thought out as
well.
A lot of people are saying it feels intentional, and feels is different from it is, but people
have their opinions.
I wonder that it's really intentional
or that it was just sheer incompetence,
which is sort of what I'm leaning towards.
I don't know.
We'll talk about it
because I don't know if I agree.
Okay.
Yeah, we'll talk about it,
especially after Trump's latest comments.
Oh, those are good.
Oh, yeah.
Well, let me...
He's always got something to say.
Lydia, come on. I am also in the corner yeah i just i was like what's next
what's gonna happen next i cannot make up my mind if it's incompetence or malice um it's always kind
of a flip of the coin with the biden administration i'm hoping it's incompetence but the sheer volume
of stuff that we left there for our actual enemies is really disheartening yeah it could be
abject failure.
Could be.
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let's, uh, let's jump into this first big story. We've got the, uh, the lead from daily mail.
Pentagon confirms the last u.s troops and
evacuation flights have left afghanistan just after midnight in kabul taliban take control
of airport and celebrate with gunfire as 20 year war ends there's there's so much to go through
first of all it really is you know ian you just mentioned in the intro that it doesn't feel like
they've completed the withdrawal.
They just stopped withdrawing, like stopped evacuating people and just bounced out.
Yeah, the way this even the statement, this title that you just read off is phrases that the last American troops left.
Is that the last ones that are going to be leaving or gone now?
Or is that the last of all of them?
And they're not clear.
I don't know if people.
They're very intentionally not clear.
They won't let you know how many Americans are left behind.
They won't let you know if they decided to stay on purpose or if they just didn't get in contact with these people.
And then you've also seen in the past like week or two, you've seen people saying on Twitter like,
I let somebody use my WhatsApp to get a visa at one point, and now I'm getting messages via WhatsApp on their behalf.
Are they getting the messages or am I just getting the messages?
You know, these kinds of things.
So it's really very peculiar, and it's hard to have any idea what's going on.
The administration is not being transparent about it at all.
And you can see that in the questioning that they've been – the questions they've been taking.
What's up with this WhatsApp thing? Someone lets – Yeah yeah or maybe it was uh i think it was actually an email
so a person put on twitter i wish i had it uh but it's one of these things that's on twitter so it's
not like you can figure out exactly what the truth is um and the amount of things that i've been
getting from people on twitter that are like here's video of a bunch of people getting shot
inside the Kabul airport.
And it's like, you know, I tracked through that person, I tracked through that person,
track through everybody. And then you eventually talk to someone who is unwilling to go on the
record. And you're like, okay, well, this story is not going to ever get out if I can't verify
who these people are and what's going on. So yeah, it was somebody had said, I let a friend
use my email address to receive visa information.
I'm getting notifications now about how it's time to leave Afghanistan.
Are they getting these notifications as well or not?
I don't think it's fair to say the war is over because, well, unless the press just stops covering it entirely now and says, yay, Biden, you did it.
That's clapping.
I think the Atlantic wrote the article or it was in the Atlantic that Biden deserves
credit, not criticism.
I'm like, no, he deserves criticism.
But the reason I say it's not over is there's still, I mean, at least estimates here from
the Daily Mail, 100 to 200 Americans are still in Afghanistan as well as our Afghan allies.
So do you think that in the coming days that we're going to hear news about American hostages?
I've been wondering about this as well, if we're going to have repeats of these kind of videos that we saw previously,
these beheading videos, these hostage videos.
What's going to happen with that?
There was a clip that came out over the weekend.
It was Taliban soldiers in a TV studio with a TV anchor,
and the anchor was saying what the Taliban told them to say.
You know, we're everything's going great.
I don't think we have any idea what's going on.
And the fact that we were engaged in a war for this long in a place that has destroyed
empires before us was already absurd.
Yeah, that one I find particularly humorous that people, you know, have mentioned, hey,
all of these empires kind of faltered after Afghanistan fiasco.
But I'll tell you, I'll tell you back to the point about the war not being over.
I'm watching this video clip of the Taliban walking through the airport and there's like
helicopters and planes.
It's not just the military equipment they received.
It's the civilian equipment that's left behind by those evacuating.
Right.
That's all resources.
Trucks or something like 40,000 SUVs they've received.
Now, I'll tell you why it's not over.
You think the Taliban coming in?
I don't care if it's the Taliban or any government, honestly, although the Taliban would be markedly
worse.
You think they're going to be able to maintain the power?
They're going to be able to maintain the infrastructure, the economy, the natural resources?
Yeah.
Homes are going to lose electricity overnight.
How many days do we have until all of a sudden the power goes out?
Well, also, they're already fighting with the – they have ideological battles with
this other terrorist organization.
Right, ISIS-K.
Yeah.
There was actually a clip – I don't know.
I hope I didn't tell you guys this already.
But Jack Kerouac went on the William F. Buckley Show in, I guess, the 60s or 70s, whenever it was.
And Kerouac said that he thought the Vietnam War was a conspiracy between the North Vietnamese and the South Vietnamese,
who, in his words, were cousins, to get a lot of Jeeps in the country.
And Buckley said, well, you know, I don't think it went too well for them.
And Kerouac said, I don't know.
They got a lot of Jeeps.
Yeah.
So they've got a lot of Jeeps. Yeah. So they've got a lot of
American equipment.
Have you seen the before
and after footage
from like Idlib
or Aleppo,
you know,
in Syria and things like that?
Oh, yeah.
I mean,
that was a while ago.
A while ago, for sure.
I remember,
you know,
you're looking at these photos,
particularly like Aleppo.
And it's amazing,
this beautiful city
and there's like
the colors oversaturated
because people are trying to purposely evoke emotion.
But you see the trees, you see the buildings,
you see the people,
and then it's like the Syrian civil war,
it's rubble.
It's brown rubble.
I don't know if it's going to get that bad
in Afghanistan necessarily,
but my personal opinion,
which is based off of just what we're seeing right now
and a lot of things could change
because I can't see the future,
I think it might get to that point.
You have no clear command structure. It's a group of people could change because I can't see the future. I think it might get to that point. You have no clear command structure.
It's a group of people who are fighting against the U.S.
And now, sure, sure, sure, let me say this.
You have some command structure, right?
There's people who are in charge.
But in order to maintain a country, let alone a city,
you need massive managerial infrastructure, which they do not have.
So all of a sudden, you're going to have some dude,
and he's going to be at a factory that makes, I don't know,
plastic lids or something, whatever they might need.
And he's going to be like, I don't know where any of this stuff comes from.
And he's going to go to the guy who works there and says,
we order from this other company, but no one's there right now,
or something like that.
The power company, people are going to leave.
Things are going to shut down.
The guy who ran their central bank fled.
So now there's no, as much as I don't like central banking,
there's still like the system has been gutted from the inside.
So what's going to happen?
With no food, people are going to go nuts,
and it's going to start breaking down, and it's going to get brutal.
It does beg the question,
what is America's responsibility to nations that can't handle their own governance?
We certainly stepped in in Europe all over the place.
But is that the kind of thing that people want from us in other countries?
I think it's pretty clear that the people of Afghanistan don't want that.
They don't want the U.S. determining their government structure or, you know, any of that kind of stuff.
So and what is the i saw another um
i wish i could remember exactly who this was i'm sorry that i can't but i saw somebody else who was
talking about how um america really is falling apart itself at this point how can we take in
some 200 000 uh afghan refugees who knows how well they've been vetted.
We have people pouring across the southern border.
We don't have any control over that.
We have governors fighting with the president over the sovereignty of their own states
and the sovereignty of American borders.
We can't properly educate our children.
We can't figure out a cohesive strategy for dealing with a global pandemic
that we have taken
responsibility for globally, as well as nationally, what is it that we think we're doing? You know,
it's like we constantly are talking about how much we hate ourselves, and how we are the worst
oppressors. And we're, you know, this privileged, horrible, bratty country. But we also take on
everybody else's problems. And as much as the left will talk about American exceptionalism being a problem, they're the
most American exceptionalist of all.
They think that we can go out there, smack ourselves in the face, wear hair shirts, and
still save the world.
And that's what they expect.
It's very weird to watch.
Yeah.
I feel like this war thing in Afghanistan, which is never actually, it's not a real war.
It was never declared by Congress.
It was just a military action.
And it was only to get bin Laden.
There was no Taliban involved in any of this in the beginning.
Right.
Taliban formed around it.
And then it was ISIS.
Then it was Al-Qaeda.
Or it was Al-Qaeda in the beginning, I think.
Well, let's slow down.
Taliban was 1994.
Okay.
So Taliban's been around forever.
So I guess, you know... Different people, different names,
different places. No, Taliban formed out of the
Mujahideen, and they...
There was an Afghan civil war.
They started expanding, gaining more power, and then
the U.S. is like, we're going to go in and get them.
Well, we went in to get Al-Qaeda, to get
Osama bin Laden, and then that
got happened after a couple years,
and then they stayed. A couple years? Yeah. After a decade, bro. And then the got happened after a couple of years. And then they stayed. A couple of years?
Yeah.
After a decade, bro.
And then the real reason we went in and came out was to build that country in the eyes of America and get its resources.
Well, that faltered.
We have no justification to fight.
I mean, it's not to fight the Taliban.
We were never there to fight the Taliban.
Right.
So that is not something we will ever do.
Look, it was colonization.
They call it nation building.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's colonizing.
Yeah, it was colonizing.
I'm not saying that from some leftist college blue-haired perspective of like, they're colonizing.
No, it's like literally like.
No, it's actually what it is.
Yeah.
The only problem with colonization is when it fails.
And it can feel bad.
And it can feel really badly. Like massacres. I don't know. There's problems with colonization is when it fails. And it can feel bad. And it can feel really badly.
I don't know.
There's problems with colonization.
How would you feel if China colonized New York City?
I think it'd be worse if they did a bad job of it, frankly.
I think it'd be bad no matter what.
Yeah, it'd be terrible no matter what.
Sure, I guess if China came in and all of a sudden
restored everyone's civil rights.
I would say Western colonization is specifically bad when it fails.
But I don't think, you know,
I think there's an argument to be made
that Western colonization
has actually been globally good
in a lot of ways.
But, you know, I'm of the opinion
that we shouldn't, at this point,
I mean, to a certain extent,
I would agree, obviously.
But I'm also of the opinion of like,
maybe we should mind our own business,
especially at this point.
I feel that way as well.
And I also feel that way in terms of nations that clearly don't have any interest in what
we have to offer.
Well, there was a poll I saw of a bunch of different countries pertaining to Islam.
And when it came to Afghanistan, these people did not share our values in any way.
There were people who were, I'll put it bluntly,
we can sit here and say,
hey, look,
it was better with Americans there
because of freedoms and economics,
but these people genuinely hate
our way of living.
They're very, very faith-based.
They're very, very tribal,
like literal tribes.
Right, actually.
And there was a poll where I think
a very large percentage thought
the death for,
I'm sorry,
the punishment for apostasy is death. Like we don't have those things.
And so we enter this country, very different way of living, very different clothes, much, much more advanced weapons.
And we tell them from now on, you live the way we tell you.
Naturally, they're not happy with that.
They're still not happy with that.
Well, and they shouldn't be uh you know there's also this issue of how can you bring
you can't bring democracy and this kind of liberty to a populace that doesn't want it themselves
you know you can't just force that on people because that's like the thing you're saying
you're not gonna do and then you're doing it in order to get them to live your way that's not
effective but let's talk about the more,
what's the right word,
terrifying result of everything we've done
in this, I'm going to say it,
and people might get mad,
it actually is a kind of funny video
as much as it is horrifying.
Now I'm scared.
Taliban appear to fly U.S. Blackhawk helicopters
over Kandahar.
The Afghan Air Force reportedly
had 167 operational aircraft including
33 blackhawk attack helicopters before the taliban took over and there's a video you may have seen it
of the taliban literally flying around in blackhawks there's like a guy hanging from it
and there's this one uh this one twitter account of the taliban they're tweeting like trying out
our new weapons and stuff like this the u.s just gave one of the most. They're tweeting like trying out our new weapons and stuff like this. The U.S. just gave one of the most advanced
militaries, an air force and ground forces
to ideological extremists.
Who beat us back with basically rocks and sticks.
That's the amazing thing. Like, was the goal of the Americans like, how can we funnel
a bunch of weapons to these people?
No, it was.
We're going to leave these weapons for the Afghani allies.
It really was.
But we're going to strip all their support out and they're just going to figure it out.
And then the Afghani allies were like, no, we're not because we can't.
Well, but we also gave them we also gave all those Afghan allies the option of leaving.
Right.
I mean, we facilitated in the past couple of weeks
or whatever,
we facilitated a massive brain drain
from that country.
How do we expect it to
ever stand up for itself
after we basically said
to all of the educated people there,
why don't you just come here?
Why don't you abandon
your responsibility
to your own nation
and come to a nation
that we're already destroying?
That's really the craziest thing to me,
seeing so many people be like,
I don't care about this place I'm leaving.
Right.
You know, okay.
Why were we trying to help a nation
where the brightest people in the country didn't care about it?
Heroin and oil.
No, no, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was going to say, these people were not raised.
You know, a lot of them are young.
Like the one guy who got on the plane and then died, I think he was, what, 19 years old.
Right, the soccer player.
So he was born into occupation.
Right.
He has no sense of country, no community.
So when it all comes crashing down, he's like, that's what I recognize, and I don't know what that is, so I'm going with that.
Right.
So the United States did a very, very poor job of culture building.
And you know what's funny?
Well, we shouldn't be culture building somebody else's culture.
Well, no, no, no, for sure.
We shouldn't have been in there in the first place.
Yeah, not with military.
But the point is, if you want an operation like this to be successful,
to create a stable country or whatever,
you've got to give people stories and things to rally around
and victories and something like, you know,
we have that story of the writing of the Star Spangled Banner where like the bombs are exploding
and then every time a bomb blasts, you could see the flag just as the light of the explosions.
And then when they came back to the fort, what did they find?
The dead bodies of the American soldiers who were running in and holding the flag up and
their bodies formed the base that kept it.
Those are the stories that people are like, shed a tear like, yes, we did it.
They don't have any of that.
We even have cultural stories, though.
I mean, if you think about it, during the Cold War, you know, the USSR was our big enemy.
And how did we infiltrate the USSR?
We, you know, Americans and Europeans would go there with suitcases full of blue jeans
and Beatles tapes.
We infiltrated culture from the bottom and from the side and from the angle.
They make the blue jeans illegal.
You'll literally be killed in public if you're listening to music in public.
And I think that that's something that America forgets is our best offerings are not our
administrative level things.
Our best offerings are our culture.
And we are undermining
that too at every turn in the united states we are undermining our own culture it's falling apart
i think for the most part uh the uniparty is absolutely to blame these people have no idea
how countries are run politics is downstream from culture yeah and so the republicans clearly do not
understand this when they're like,
we got so many judges
and yeah.
And then the judges
are like political pressures
forced me to go
in the direction
of mainstream culture.
Also, once you're in court,
you lost.
It doesn't matter
what the victory is.
I got to say,
this 21st century war,
because this is to both
the points you guys are making,
with the new age of military
and the way it's done
with the internet,
you don't send troops to a country, nation building. You don't put a soldier on every
block and every window so that they can't get from place to place. You basically are controlling the
system because they have Facebook groups. They can coordinate on the internet now.
Putting troops in a foreign country to nation build is not the tactic anymore. And if anything
that I've learned from the vets that are coming back there, it's that. You did not fight in vain.
You fought to teach us that in a modern war, we cannot
be putting boots on the ground to build nations.
It has to be through the internet. Except
when you can't get internet in there.
Either because of the mountainous region
of the country or because the ideological
extremism, which is
my point about what's happening here in the U.S.
They spent so much time worrying
about Afghanistan and Iraq and Iran in between that they ignored the fact in the U.S. They spent so much time worrying about Afghanistan and Iraq and Iran in between
that they ignored the fact that the U.S. itself is being overrun by a psychotic cult of people.
And I'll tell you, I love the idea of the cult.
You know why?
Because I saw this post about horse dewormer on Reddit.
And the people in the comment did like, it's a death cult.
And I'm like, bro, if you actually did two seconds of Google searching, you would realize that certain medications, which are widely available at Walgreens, but for some reason the media keeps saying horse dewormer over and over because you are in the matrix.
And so here we – maybe that's what they're thinking.
They're like, I don't know.
Let's have a dumb population.
That will allow us to flourish.
No, it won't.
A bunch of people who have no idea what's going on, who can't make any decisions.
And perhaps you think that'll empower you, but it guts the country from the inside.
It's a brain drain happening in our own country.
We've done it on purpose.
I mean, we did it on purpose because we had these ideals of what we should be doing instead
of the thing we were doing.
So we've gutted our educational system.
We've completely devalued the college degree. We've devalued graduate degrees. We've devalued diplomas.
We don't learn anything in schools at this point. We don't teach anything.
Imagine unironically thinking college is a good idea.
Right. Yeah.
Or unironically saying college is a good idea.
I mean, I'm sure that I have a similar experience to you guys. When I was a kid, my parents were like, you know,
you're definitely going to college.
And I'm looking at my son and I'm like, if you want, maybe you could go to state.
Oh, I'm totally different from you.
I'd be like, no.
Yeah, make sure he understands that compound interest.
I'm telling him, you know, like the money I have saved for you,
you could also just buy some property if you want.
You know, you could travel.
Start a business at 14.
You could do whatever you want with this.
You could read on your own on the Internet, which is now free.
And learn how to discern between real and fake news.
And then teach yourself.
Because there are a lot of prominent young people or young people today who are older but rose to prominence when they were young because they just went online.
And there's some famous stories about young hackers or like you know let's say tech entrepreneurs
and when they were 15 years old on the internet in forums contributing code the other 30 year olds
taking that code had no idea it was a 15 year old talk contributing right and so there's a real
opportunity to get away from that broken system but i do think there's a lot at the end of the
tunnel though with the with with the coming collapse.
Remote working means you'll be around your kids more often.
Right.
That is a plus.
And remote schooling means the parents are more likely to be near their kids when their
kids are learning.
And to see what's actually being taught.
Right.
The CTO of Mines.
Which is pretty important.
He was 17 when he started working with Mines.
I mean, you can do it young.
You do not need school.
This is the big thing why we talk about the Cast Castle vlog we've been doing and building culture and trying to bring more people here to have fun.
That's so important.
That's like the most important thing is storytelling, you know, remembering the old stories.
I think that's a big part of it, too.
The more we replace the canon with things that we think, you know, are contemporously important, the more we undermine what our culture is founded on.
There's a really interesting...
We have to go back to the old stories.
There's a really interesting kind of similarity
between some of what's happening with the Taliban
flying around in Blackhawks and what's happening in the U.S.
We have ideological zealots
who have taken over the New York Times, for instance.
And so now they're wearing it like a skin suit.
And we see that with so many different franchises and movies.
Ezra Klein at the New York Times.
We've seen that.
What did he do?
He's just, you know, he's writing these columns all the time that are just supporting the administration without any real reason.
Or Jennifer Rubin today at the Washington Post.
It's ridiculous.
Where she was like, the U.S. is still the only superpower.
And it's like, girl, if you've got you gotta say that we're already in trouble but so
so the new york times this powerful institution of you know a hundred plus years or whatever
now being worn as a skin suit by these ideologues american military power and air force supremacy
of the blackhawks now being worn by an ideological extremist group that have seized control of this infrastructure.
How many missiles did they leave?
I'm not saying it's identical.
I'm just saying there's an interesting similarity.
They're not going to tell you how many missiles they left.
They're not going to tell you how much equipment.
Did you see this Taliban's new arsenal graphic?
Was anyone able to?
Yeah, there were some graphics, but I couldn't figure out where they came from.
It says it's from the U.S. Government Accounting Office.
Oh, interesting.
What country is due west of Afghanistan?
That would be Iran.
And do you think that when everything starts
falling apart in Afghanistan, and
they need electricity and
infrastructure and resources, do you think they might
say, hey, Iran, look at the
42,000 SUVs we have.
Might you need some of this? Yes, I think we have some
hellfire missiles sitting right here in this
building. We can't do anything with them.
But you know what we do need is electricity. Well iran is uh pretty close a lot closer to nuclear
capability now at this point anyway i'm i'm willing to bet the moment they took a couple
like i'm willing to bet a phone call was made the moment donald trump signed that peace treaty
with iran was immediately like give me you know you know, like, what do you got?
What are we going to do?
But I'll tell you this.
There may have been some phone calls back and forth back then.
The moment word got out that Bagram was abandoned, that all of this equipment was abandoned.
Iran called up and said, you know, called up the Taliban said, buddy, hey, how you been?
Who's always been there for you? What do you think would have happened if the U.S. had left on Trump's timetable?
It's not so much about the timetable.
It's about the caliber of leadership.
Right.
I'm wondering how that would have been, if it would have been any different.
Biden has said repeatedly that he doesn't think it would have been any different.
Well, he's wrong.
I think he's wrong, too.
It would have been similar. I think it would have been a little more organized, he's wrong. I think he's wrong, too. It would have been similar.
A little more organized, perhaps.
It's not so much about the timeline.
The bigger question is, what would have happened if Biden stuck to the arrangements and agreements
set forth by the Trump administration?
How about this?
Why did they abandon Bagram overnight?
Because they easily could have said, we're evacuating out of Bagram.
Why didn't they do all in April?
I haven't fact-checked this,
but I've seen some reporting.
In April, the U.S. issued a warning to American citizens.
You need to get out.
Right.
Now, a lot of Americans stayed, chose to stay,
and that is true,
but I don't think it's as easy to say
that Americans were like,
well, they're choosing to stay.
That's their problem.
Well, it's probably like there's people
they're trying to help and won't leave behind.
Right.
And so that means the U.S. need to have a hard extraction, like, come on, get your stuff.
We are leaving.
You can't stay.
It's tough, though.
Americans do have a right to choose to stay in the combat zone, private contractors,
whatever.
But I believe if they stuck to the original plan, and I'll tell you this, it's more to
do with the leadership than just the plan.
But if the original plan was stuck
to, I don't think this would have happened. I think the Taliban would have absolutely tried
moving forward. And then there would have been some very serious drone strikes. Drone striking,
moving militants through the desert, heading to provincial capitals is a lot easier than doing
a drone strike on residential houses in Kabul, which just killed a bunch of kids.
Yeah, I think that there's also something to be said for sticking to the plan that your
predecessor laid out, because America's word is now garbage.
We made a deal, and then we were just like, meh.
Yeah, but the Taliban, hold on.
I feel like that's a problem.
But the Taliban.
Regardless of whether or not, you know, the Taliban would have stuck to their end, the
U.S., once the U.S. makes a deal, like, we should stick to that.
It shouldn't matter who's in power.
Yeah, but the Taliban broke the deal.
Right.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I take that back.
Biden broke the deal.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
He broke the timeline.
We should have said, we should have, like, you know, as soon as he got into office, he
should have said something like, if this was the view, I don't think we should leave right
away, but we said we would. So I'm going to honor
the word of the United States. Yeah, I feel like he didn't do much about it in the early days.
Yeah, he didn't do anything except reverse Trump bans on critical race theory. You know,
he spent days reversing executive orders instead of actually, you know, and getting
masses of praise for that. I could see like months and months where they did not do anything about evacuation,
even though they knew they had a timetable, because in the back of his mind, he was like,
F Trump, that guy's, I'm not paying attention to that guy, whatever, I'm not,
I'm focusing on this. And he had months to prepare for this.
Well, and I think he also had this completely backwards idea that the entire rest of the world
thought that Trump was as illegitimate as the current administration thinks Trump was.
But in fact, that wasn't the case.
Whether our allies or enemies or whatever liked or didn't like Trump, he was the legitimately elected president.
And he was treated that way as well.
He should have been.
And his bilateral agreements, you know, were the word of the United States,
whether Biden liked them or not. So when he came in, he kind of acted like, oh, the past four years,
I can just, you know, completely sweep them under the rug and get rid of everything that happened
during that period of time, because everyone knows that that was an illegitimate presidency.
And that was completely bonkers and and a slap in the face of the american public that voted for the previous administration
joe biden made a promise he promised that there would not be americans left behind from the daily
caller biden breaks his promise and leaves stranded americans behind at the mercy of the taliban
there's some nuance here that i do want to i do want to get into what's it like they said it was
like uh in the low hundreds i think right today i don't know if I believe that. I mean, that
sounds absurd to me. It's got to be in the thousands.
And you saw that question the other day about transparency
where the one kid was like, maybe I'm
saying kid. I'm sure he's younger than me anyway.
But he was like, you know, you
didn't give us accurate information about dog bites.
So why do
we think that you're giving us accurate information
now? Major apparently bit
Secret Service guys for days.
And instead of answering the question of how can we believe you now when you weren't even transparent about the stupid dog, Jen Psaki just gave information about the dog, which may or may not be accurate.
So this is from August 19th, this promise.
If there's American citizens left, we're going to stay to get them all out.
Oh, that's right.
Now they're saying, well, you know, everybody wanted out.
We got them.
Huh?
And we can't get them anyway.
Why did they rush?
Why did they rush?
I don't understand.
No, no, no, no, no.
Rush?
Yeah.
Why did they rush to get out by the 31st?
What?
What?
So what?
The Taliban didn't rush.
Well, why didn't they get everybody out?
I thought the Taliban kind of took over the airport.
Well, that's because they started evacuating.
They got rid of Bagram.
Bagram.
They pulled out all sorts of weird defenses and logistics early like hold on a a bomb an attack happened and 13
servicemen and women were killed because the u.s did not pull them off of the gate of uh was it
abbey gate that's right and they had forewarning they they warned others to prepare for an imminent
attack and they did not pull our troops off that gate.
They wanted to keep it open a little bit longer for the British.
Was it those service animals?
Americans were told not to come, to stay away.
The men and women in uniform at the gate were supposed to shut it down earlier,
but they decided to leave it open, and that's what happened.
And so they're under fire.
They fear more attacks are coming.
So they said, pull them out.
I'm thinking like grand scheme.
You've got all these people you need to get out.
Why would they just not say, look, it's going to take us until it takes us to get these people out?
The Taliban, what are they going to do, attack?
Yes.
We're at war.
Then we attack back.
We've been at war for 20 years.
We're going to stay there, and we're going to get everybody out.
That's bad.
Why?
It's already bad.
It's war.
There's so many people there that need our help.
Ron Paul, I think, said it best.
When you prescribe the wrong medication, you don't simply say, well, there might be a withdrawal, so we'll keep them on it.
No, you get off that medication.
And what he's saying is we should not be in this country.
But what if the medication got people addicted
and it's going to kill them if you take them off it?
But it's not the right medicine.
You've got to figure out a way to get them off without killing them.
That's literally said, even if there would be withdrawal symptoms from it.
The point is you can't.
We can't just stay.
We can't reinvade.
I mean, we never should in it was just it's a
bunch of backseat the problem monday morning quarter sure but i mean still like what were
we supposed to what would we be doing there right now other than like getting shot at and drone
bombing uh roads this is exactly the problem that's what we did joe biden botches the withdrawal and
now here you are saying we should have stayed in exactly we should have evacuated that's why we're going to evacuate that's why
tucker carlson said it seems like biden did this on purpose and he's not the only one who said it
just to make it look i missed that clip was that like to make it well many people like we shouldn't
have brought we shouldn't have left at all was it like to by botching this withdrawal it would
force the u.s to reinvade and now even trump himself is saying i would send in more troops yeah yeah we did send in like
6 000 more troops we did and so the concern leaving the concern is the stupidity or the
malice whichever one it is you want to believe it was because abandoning a two runway air force base yeah and
then shuttling everybody to the civilian airport in the middle of a densely populated city is the
stupidest thing i've ever heard asking permission from the enemy to allow us to retreat like come
on i get it you do that in war sometimes and now there are americans still there because
not having nothing to do with the timeline. The timeline is irrelevant. Biden's promises are meaningless.
The point is the administration is so absolutely vile and pathetic,
whether it was intentional or not.
They screwed up everything.
And maybe they want this as justification.
I don't remember who was on the show last time they said,
maybe it was to punish us.
That you see what happens when you want to withdraw.
This is what happens and you get to
watch. Yeah, well, it's your fault. I don't care. Screw all of these people who started all of it
and want to do everything in their power to make sure this stuff keeps happening.
If we didn't go in there in the first place, listen, Cassandra Fairbanks said it best when
she was on the show talking about China. There are many countries on this planet that are engaging
in atrocities and we don't report it in the news. don't talk about it we don't go there we don't invade we don't colonize but for some reason some of these
countries oh absolutely yeah what like what do the taliban say they said how come the u.s is okay
with saudi arabia that's a really good question yeah so i'm sick of all of this i'm sick of their
excuses for how how they break things and then say oh no oh but, oh, but if only, no, not if only.
You guys broke it on purpose.
I don't mean the withdrawal.
I mean the country itself.
They wanted a nation build.
It was an intentional action to go into the country, start nation building,
and the whole thing broke because of it.
I think Obama's interest was in nation building because he ran on a platform
in his first campaign.
He said, I'm going to send more people into Afghanistan.
We're going to keep doing this.
And I remember talking to friends at the time being like he's gonna keep this war going
you guys marched with me against this war when george bush invaded we you know went into the
streets and we were like don't do this and now you're voting for obama who is definitely planning
to keep this war going my and that's of course what happened my favorite was uh uh people i
knew who voted for obama twice who then were like we we have to vote for Biden. I'm like, dude, you were at Occupy
Wall Street protesting Biden, like Biden and Obama. You were mad at them. Now you're like,
Biden's our only hope. Wow. They've sure turned you around. They really they really sold us on
this guy. They really sold the country on this guy. It was a false bill of goods. They did such
a terrible job. It's like, and everyone just kept backing him.
All of the news media, for the most part, was backing him.
You know, you had like universities and institutions and all the organizations were saying, we
have to go with Biden, all because they hated Trump.
They did this to us because they hated Trump for their own reasons without being able to
look at, you know, policies
or whatever and say, oh, this is OK.
This is not good.
I hate his bluster.
But this is, you know, this is what the situation is.
It's a they created this cult of personality for Trump and then became everything they
hated about him.
It's really the most amazing thing.
And propped up a puppet presidency.
Like the, you know, the joke is an alarming number of people who said punch a Nazi are now saying
papers please.
Yes.
That punch a Nazi thing was so disturbing.
2017, is that when it got popular?
Remember Kill Turfs?
Please don't.
You remember that one?
Yeah.
There was a Kill Turfs exhibit at the San Francisco Public Library.
There was a-
Baseball bats, like pink and blue baseball bats To go beat up women Who think biological sex
Is innate
There was a funny thing
That happened on Facebook
Where a bunch of feminists
Were saying kill all men
And then Facebook
Started banning them
And they were shocked
And outraged
Saying but we're just
Making a political point
And Facebook was like
You can't advocate
For genocide
Unless
And they were like
But
And like no buts
You can't advocate
For genocide
But you can't ever
Advocate for punching People of a political persuasion in the face.
Like, that's so crazy.
That should be banned, too.
Twitter allowed.
That stuff gets banned.
When I was working at Mines, that stuff was not allowed.
That was a call to violence.
It wasn't.
The thing is, it's not an imminent call to violence.
Because it's not like punch a Nazi at 2 p.m. tomorrow.
That then becomes illegal.
But when you just say, hurt a person, you know, and you're kind of vague about it, there's no imminent threat. No, the problem is. So it's not illegal. But when you just say hurt a person, you know, and you're kind of vague about it, there's no imminent threat. The problem is
it's not illegal.
At the time, it was the word Nazi.
Now it's like far right.
Everybody's far right. Next it'll be what?
There's no
definition of what these things mean. We try to
understand what it is, but I just love when
they like,
I love when they smear Ian trying
to make you seem right wing.
And everyone who watches the show is like.
It's so confusing.
Even to me, dude.
It's certainly not true.
Some sort of tidal wave hurricane.
It's like you're a long haired hippie guy talking about psilocybin and DMT.
All this stuff transcends political parties.
That's part of why I'm here and why I enjoy this so much.
You know, we're people first with like needs and wants.
And then the politics we've just made up.
All that stuff didn't used to exist as humans we we've created it but i i love talking to people who are you know trying to
navigate the space maybe new to it and they're like you know are you left or right and they'll
say something like oh i don't know you know i think i'd be on the left or like probably middle
the road and then i say something like uh what what did i say um i can't remember there's so
many wedge issues in the culture war but something like do you think i say um i can't remember there's so many wedge issues in the
culture war but something like do you think there should be no medical exemptions for vaccine
mandates and they're like oh well no i don't think okay you're an anti-vaxxer and you're far right
no joke like if you went outside and you were standing in front of a hospital and someone said
do you oppose mandatory vaccination with no medical exemption you said wow that sounds
really bad aha you're far right the media would call you far right. You know, that's been happening all over my Facebook.
So I'll post things.
I think it was the last thing I posted on Facebook was probably Tyrant de Blasio's vaccine
mandate situation thing.
And I was like, this is tyrannical and fascistic.
And I got so ganged up on for that.
And people are saying, you know, you give up privacy all the time or, you know, you've
given away this many of your rights already. So what's a few more?
Oh, that's a good reason to do it. You're losing. So just lose.
Just give it up altogether. You know, you've already cut off your right arm. So just cut
off your left.
That's that's it's the word just. It's just the mask. Calm down. Just just 15 days. Calm
down. Just until we can make can make sure we slow this down.
It's not a big deal.
Why are you speaking back against authority?
And this is from, here's the thing about the people I'm talking about here, okay?
These are people that I have known.
They're all, these are artists.
These are actors.
They're writers.
They're directors.
They're theater people.
They're painters. And they're telling me that my concern about having to show my paperwork just to order a drink at a bar, that makes me a bad person, that I would dare question the authority.
These are people who have for their entire lives until now said things like question authority, you know? And then Obama comes along.
First of all, that was the first clue that all of these people
were willing to turn tail, right?
Obama comes along and everyone suddenly trusts the federal government.
Why would you ever trust the federal government for anything?
I also was in the theater.
I found a lot of people in the theater.
This is a gross exaggeration.
It definitely isn't going to be for everybody in the theater,
but I think a lot of them are followers that want to be accepted, that are kind of weirdos, that love being part
of a group and that need to feel like they're not weird.
And so now we're seeing that sociologically because a lot of people I know in the theater
are weird, like huddling with the mask and like, let the government control everyone.
That is what's going on.
They're hiding out.
Yeah.
They get into jobs like this because their goal is to be famous. Yeah. not how art used to be that's not really that's not how real art used
to be like when i got involved in art i i was an artist and so i had to be involved in making art
and it had nothing to do with being famous or anything like that you know it's it's nice to
have accolades it's nice to have people recognize your work and say that they enjoy it.
But making art has nothing to do with being accepted by masses of people or being propelled into some sort of stardom.
That's the complete bastardization of it.
You make art because you need to tell stories, because you need to communicate part of the river of human consciousness.
You need to explore that.
You need to communicate that to people.
That's what art is.
I mean, you know, is art an object
or is art the experience of participating in art?
Which one is it?
Is it both?
These are the questions that artists used to ask.
These are the questions that we used to talk about
late at night and try and figure out what kind of work we wanted to ask. These are the questions that we used to talk about late at night and try and figure out
what kind of work we wanted to make. And now you see what's going on in the art world. And it's all
about propelling your own personal self forward and hoping you get some sort of, you know, I don't
know, Oscar or whatever the things are. It doesn't make any sense. And it's not art. It's just another
industry. I noticed something really interesting, A great change happened that makes me kind of happy.
Several years ago, back when I was working for like Vice Infusion, I would get emails all the time from people who are like, I want to do what you do.
You're so lucky.
I want to travel the world, report, make documentaries.
It sounds so amazing.
And I'd be like, well, go and do it.
Go do the thing.
But they would always be like, oh, it's too hard.
I don't have enough money.
It's impossible.
If only I had your job.
And I said,
I just bought a bus ticket for 20 bucks
and went to New York with a cell phone.
Right.
I had a cell phone,
but you can do it, right?
Well, there were a few people that I said,
okay, how about this?
How about you come?
I'll introduce you to a bunch of people.
We'll get you a bunch of advice.
We'll send you off in the right direction.
And they're like, wow, really?
Like, yeah, come hang out.
By all means, we want to support people who want to do this stuff.
And you know what?
It would happen every single time.
Within a week, they'd be like, I don't want to do this.
No, no, no, hold on.
What do you mean you don't want to do this?
Oh, they saw how the sausage got made.
You mean you have to actually get on a plane for 12 hours?
It's uncomfortable.
Your back hurts. Then you land. You're groggy-eyed. You go through security. They question you,
what you're doing. They could turn you around. You got to go to the press building. Then you're
in a country where they have no muzzle control, and the Egyptians were pointing guns at people's
heads. And they're like, that doesn't sound fun. That's scary. And I'm like, so what did you want
to do exactly? Well, I wanted to be on TV. That's the same thing that used to happen with art.
So I was making theater for no money.
I was paying stuff out with my own day job or whatever, which was fine.
I am honored and privileged to do it.
But people seem to think that the thing you're doing is something else, right?
So it's like you show up, you work 12, 15 hours a day
to do the thing, to make the artwork, to make that one crystallized perfect moment that you
can share with the audience. And then everybody loves it. And then everyone wants to, yeah,
because that's what happens. And people are like, I want to do that. I want to make that kind of
artwork. But they don't actually want to make it. They just want to be part of that final experience.
And it's not the same thing. Like it's when you're really when you're doing successful work, you don't realize that you're successful. You're just doing the thing that you do every day. something started to change around the Trump era. When Trump came out, then I saw the media lying,
and I'd be like, they're lying about that, and they're lying about that, and I don't like Hillary
or Trump, so whatever. All of a sudden, a lot of these emails started to stop. And today,
as much as we get tons of job offers, there's something very different in the requests,
in the, I want to do what you do. It's very, very different. The emails I get now are like,
I'd love to help in any way. I'm good at doing these things. Is that something that you need? It used to be, I want to
do what you do. And you know what I realized? The people who would say things like, I want to do
what you do, what they were really saying was, I want to be socially accepted and famous. And now
that you are effectively an apostate of the liberal order by coming out and being like,
orange man, not that bad.
Just saying something like that.
They're like, oh, well, that won't make me famous.
I don't want to do that.
And I'm like, it's such a relief now because now I don't get the emails from people who
are like, all I care about is notoriety.
Now the people are like, I just care about doing something good.
Right.
Way better.
Which is much more important than notoriety.
And it also gives you a life instead of just a couple of moments.
The left has become overwhelmingly narcissistic, paranoid, delusional, and not every single leftist.
There are some dirtbag leftists who are anti-woke and just believe in like leftist economic policy, and that's fine.
But the overarching popular leftists on YouTube are like the most duplicitous pro-establishment shills.
Plus, then you have the Uniparty, which is, you know, the neocons and the Lincoln Project along with the Democrats.
It's all the same thing.
It is a hive of scum and villainy and narcissists.
That's because they became the thing they hated.
They said Trump is all of these things.
Or they were just projecting the whole time.
And we have to beat him no matter what, no matter if we break all our own rules.
So they became the horrible thing that they thought he was.
I don't think they have rules.
Listen.
No, no.
They don't have rules because there's not a value system.
There's no undercurrent of ethos, right?
It's just shifting sands. When I see someone who can say something within the same
hour,
there's a really funny tweet where they're like, F the police!
F the police!
Ashley Babbitt's shooter was
justified. This officer...
That's a shocking thing to watch that, right?
So I was looking today,
CNN reported about how Pelosi's
special committee on January 6th, right, because that's what we're doing now.
She reported about how they are now trying to get telecommunications companies to fork over phone records for like hundreds of people, including a bunch of members of congress yeah like mostly gop legislators like matt getz and uh lauren
bobert and jim jordan and jim banks the people that she cut from the committee in the first
place after mccarthy appointed them and cnn reported uh the in their the committee's
investigation into the deadly riot of january 6th They keep saying this deadly riot thing over and over,
and they refuse to ever just print where a police officer shot an unarmed woman to death
with no warning or provocation.
This is one of the darkest stories, I've got to tell you to be completely honest, from CNN.
January 6th committee to ask telecommunications companies to preserve phone records
of members of Congress who participated in Stop the Steal rally.
They're doing it in increments.
Yes.
They're preserving the records because they don't want to come out right now and seize
the records.
Did you see that?
A blacklist?
They did a roundup.
They demanded all of the correspondence between a number of conservative, it was like conservative
journalists and influencers and a bunch of people in the Trump administration and associates.
That's right.
This is the next level.
So they're doing it one step at a time.
First, it's, you know, we want this information from the government on these individuals,
the Trump administration and all the activists who helped in their communications from around election time.
Yeah, that they pulled from, they're trying to pull back from the archives.
Now, they want phone records preserved, which means, give it a week and they'll say,
okay, now we want those phone records.
That's correct.
So this is...
And they're thrilling.
We talk about the collapse of Afghanistan,
but this is the collapse of the U.S.
No joke.
It's horrifying to watch this unfold.
And what we're seeing is that they don't actually have any evidence
of the thing that they believe happened.
There's no one charged with insurrection.
That's exactly right.
There's very few people charged with assault. There were very few people charged with insurrection. That's exactly right. There's very few people charged with assault.
There were very few people charged with previous conspiracy.
Trespassing charges.
Right.
And the previous conspiracy people were known members of radical organizations.
I mean, it's like they said the FBI report said there was no coordination or central planning.
Scant evidence.
They found scant evidence.
They said there was some evidence to indicate people planned on breaking into the building,
but no actual plan for what that would entail.
That's right.
So people smack talking on the internet, I guess.
That's basically it.
And mostly they were doing it on Facebook.
Even though they pulled Parler down to punish Parler for Facebook's sins.
And from this, we are now getting the Democratic Party going after their rivals,
their political opponents.
Everything they accused
Trump of doing,
they are doing right now
to the umpteenth degree.
That's correct.
So this is the end.
I can't see how
a country can lose
in Afghanistan
considering the past examples
of the collapses of countries
after failing in Afghanistan.
Okay, maybe that's unfair,
but man, was that bad.
It could shatter the empire.
Yeah, for sure.
Like the Soviet Union cracked, but Russia remains.
Even a search warrant, you need to have probable cause
and say what you're looking for.
In this committee, they're not even saying what they're looking for
because they don't actually have any idea how they're going to prove
that January 6th was a white supremacist conspiracy
to overthrow the government they don't care about that they want phone records because those phone
records will then leak whoops they want all of it because they don't know what they're looking for
we're at the age of just don't use a phone don't use don't use unencrypted communication right
yeah that that funny story we we always, people know it better
than I do,
but that story about
the war game they did
where like the older guy
went up against
the younger guys
and the older guy won
because he sent
communications by a motorcycle
with a written note
and they were trying
to do digital
and they couldn't track it
or something like that.
It's a funny story.
Yeah, but you can't
not use a phone.
You know what I mean?
But you can use things
like Signal.
You can use Telegram
and Signal, yeah.
Telegram and Signal.
You can set up custom operating systems you can learn how to flash you know
different operating system on your phone it's not the easiest thing in the world but it's not
particularly difficult but i think the bigger issue here is it's not about it's not about
looking for evidence what they're doing is they're saying for one if you oppose us we'll dig through
all your records we know those records will leak to the press whether it's social media or
telecommunications and more importantly they're looking for strategy. They wanted
information on all of these people from April 2020 to January 2020.
Right. Once they have that information, could people just put in FOIA requests for it?
I don't. Well, so the issue with the first request on social media was that they want
government communications.
Right.
Things that already exist.
Right.
So entirely possible.
That was the National Archives stuff.
Now that they've made the announcement that these things potentially exist, I'm sure BuzzFeed already went to town subpoenaing every single one of these individuals.
Actually, there's a funny thing that I did at Vice once.
We wanted to do.
We never actually did.
We were planning it.
It was to do a FOIA request on ourselves
and see what comes up, and then whoever gets the
biggest stack is the winner.
Going to North Korea,
Venezuela, you'd wonder who has the bigger
FBI file or whatever.
But you can easily do this.
You can now FOIA request saying,
oh, the Democrats requested this,
I would like public information,
these documents to be released to the public
on all of these individuals and what they were saying,
and it's going to leak regardless of FOIA.
Well, the National Archives, I don't think,
have turned over the information yet.
I think they have until, like, September 9th.
It'll happen.
You think so?
It's the second request.
The committee asked for it, I think, back in March or something.
Yes, so some of it's, a lot of the request is new.
Some of it didn't get turned over, but I think it will.
Interesting.
I mean, we'll see.
Was there resistance before?
No, I think they just didn't do it.
I don't know.
I mean, the National Archives, they're probably sitting there like,
really, we got to do something?
Why?
It's a lot of work.
It's a lot of work.
The CIA can look at anybody's info at any time without a request.
They can do like a kangaroo court and get a FOIA or whatever that.
FISA?
Yeah, FISA yeah FISA
but Congress has to get uh permission as this is what we're learning right
they have subpoena power yeah I mean this committee has that power they could just subpoena
but I think they're slow rolling it that's why they're saying preserve records yeah that's why
they're not saying we demand all records immediately they're slow rolling it so that
people don't get shocked they want the frogs to boil not jump out of the pot right these are these are these are truly dark i know it's annoying i
thought that the government was going to help me also the uh also the uh the durham report i was
like thank god i live in the u.s i thought you meant like recently i was like no way dude for
like the last 30 years i was like sweet right i was like after everything you've said like this
government's awesome aren't we still waiting for for the Durham report to come out also?
Ooh, I don't know.
Because the – but I think it was due already to talk about this.
You were like, for a second there, like, is he being serious?
I caught on.
I caught on pretty quick.
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
After I was in a little car wreck today.
Oh, man.
Everything's a little –
I don't think there's going to be a Durham report.
You saw a four-car pileup you were talking about.
Oh, yeah.
It was just a little aside.
Yeah, it was behind me.
That's crazy.
You barely avoided it.
We barely avoided it.
Oh, it was like Fast and Furious, and you drifted, and the car flew over you.
You rose up out of the car, and your screen was down.
No, there was this crazy truck driver.
He didn't break in time.
He smashed into a whole bunch of people, and the car behind me smashed into us.
And then I hit the gas, and we got out of there.
Did you fear for your life at any time in that?
Kind of, yeah.
That puts things in perspective.
I'm a new driver.
I've only been driving for less than a year now.
We talk politics, yeah, yeah.
But when your life is on the line, look at these people in Louisiana right now with this hurricane.
We didn't even talk about this yet.
How many people are stranded right now?
I haven't-
Roofs coming off of hospitals.
Dude, I remember that one in 2003, the hurricane that George Bush-
The Katrina.
Katrina.
And they mishandled that terribly.
1,800 people died in that.
People were on the roofs.
Yeah.
Now we're truly entering the panopticon.
Drone footage flying overhead, filming people looting buildings.
Oh, wow.
In Louisiana? So speaking of surveillance- speaking of surveillance yeah everything but itself and then shutting down the the the airspace over that wreckage earlier is probably because they don't want the panopticon
right yeah yeah i think we're headed towards a future where there's going to be drones over your
backyard you're going to be in your bathroom and the government drone's going to like fly up to
the window and you're going to be like naked it's and the government drone's going to fly up to the window, and you're going to be naked, and it's going to be like, do not be alarmed,
citizen. We are simply doing
an ID check, and you're going to be like, okay.
It's not going to be the government drone. It's going to be
Amazon.
Maybe not Tesla, but Apple.
Tesla's going to have some kind of
weird Musk-type
implosion situation, but it's definitely
going to be Amazon saying, stay in your homes.
We will bring you the things that you require. What that was uh what what what show was i watching i think that was
electric dreams the one i was talking about a little bit where it's like the uh the the ai system
wipes out humanity by just mass producing products of want and so then eventually humans are just
strangled out from the dying environment and they're like the machines just drop boxes of random garbage.
But I think what we'll likely see is with moves like this over the, you know, January 6th, they're going after politicians.
They're going after prominent activists.
This really does paint a picture of that future where Amazon, like there's a uniparty, like we had a uniparty for some time.
But they'll lucratively merge with the likes of Amazon or whatever.
Well, that's already happening.
I mean, when you see, you know, the administration was asked
if they were going to do vaccine passports, and they said no,
there will be no federal vaccine credential, right?
But then they supported states doing it, they supported cities doing it,
and they have been encouraging businesses to do it themselves.
So you see that. They're already
teaming up. They're already creating
this corporate federal
infrastructure that is
horrifyingly difficult to
get out of, like the CCP.
Yeah. I think that's
real. I mean, this is something I think is
definitely happening. And it's happening
with all of our acquiescence.
We like having little pieces of garbage delivered to our homes.
I just watched this really amazing classical movie.
It's called Fast and Furious.
Oh, yeah.
Super cool.
One of the classics.
One of the classics.
And there's a bad guy.
I have never seen this film.
It's good.
You've got to see it.
You know why?
Because I was watching it.
And the bad guy's name is Reyes.
No, hold on.
Listen, okay?
The bad guy's name is Reyes, and he's a Brazilian crime lord.
And in the beginning of the movie, this is really a profound moment.
I was thinking about this.
He was talking to these two guys, and he says,
I don't want to work with you.
Your methods are too violent.
When you get violent and you back someone into a corner,
they have nothing left to lose, and they fight back.
I give them something to lose, and then I own them.
And I was like, wow.
Yeah.
That's something big.
I didn't think I was going to get any kind of philosophy from Fast and Furious.
But to say, like, give the people something to lose and then threaten to take it away, and you will own them. That'sicans don't want to fight that's why people don't want to i mean i'm not speaking for everyone
here and all of it yeah there's too much to lose like a nuclear war would i mean yeah the people
in somalia would lose stuff but we would no no no no look look at the people who trespass and are
getting six months in prison the most of them were bankrupt already. A lot of these people had nothing.
I think Ashley Babbitt, for example, was facing bankruptcy.
So these are people, like Reyes said in Fast and Furious, who had nothing left to lose.
And so now they're saying what they're doing to these people is a reminder.
You still have something left to lose.
We will lock you up and torture you in solitary confinement for eight months.
Then you'll realize what you've got to lose.
And people are going to see that. That's the message
they're sending. Give the people something to lose
and you will own them. It's messed up. Did you see
what, remember, you know, Adam Kokesh? Did you see what
they did to him back a couple few years ago?
He went to D.C. and protested
with a shotgun, an open carry.
And they were like, well, that gives
us, you know, what do they call it when they have a probable cause to search your apartment. So they went open carry, and they were like, well, that gives us probable cause
to search your apartment.
So they went to his house, and they found mushrooms
in his apartment, threw him in prison.
Just devastated him. And he came out
a completely different person. He does not
talk crap about the government anymore.
Terrifying, because he was a hardcore activist.
Ex-military.
They just look for it. They bring
the hammer when they come.
He doesn't do any anti-government stuff?
I shouldn't say any, but he's not the outspoken vocalist
that he was in the early days, like
screaming profanity-laced tirades
about the military-industrial complex
because of mushrooms.
We're going to have a medical. Did you see how
the government wants to expand
the federal
reach into medical research.
That's awesome.
For what?
For mushrooms?
For all of it, really.
Well, there you go.
DMT, ecstasy.
This is part of Biden's infrastructure plan.
It's like billions of dollars to create more federal medical infrastructure.
I don't like that.
I don't like it either.
And the idea is that when we need vaccines,
we would just have the government do it.
We wouldn't have to engage American industry
in doing these things in a competitive way.
I was talking to a friend,
and they were saying something to me like,
this is kind of a lefty person,
they were like, I'm really scared about what's happening
with these COVID numbers skyrocketing.
And I was like, I get it, but but i'm like at what point do you just stop believing everything
because of how much they've been wrong you know what i mean i'm not not to say don't believe the
numbers anything i'm just like at a certain point don't you throw up your arms in futility like i've
done everything they've said nothing's changed we we got vaccinated we wore two masks it's all the
same and and and they just keep
blaming other people and the response was like but the government's really really scared and
that freaks me out and so it's like i don't know i guess there's some people there's there's two
ways you can go when you come to the futility of like i just don't know anymore i'm i'm broken
mentally on this one i've seen too much reverse like reversions and back and forth i'm just like
you go do your thing i don't even know but. But then other people say, I give up. Just tell me what to
do. I don't want to think anymore. I think that is the point. I think it's an intentional confusion.
So once you, you know, once we give up logic, we have nothing. And the regulations and the rules
that are coming down to us don't make any cohesive sense. They're not based on anything, right?
And so if you look to, for example, absurdist literature from Eastern Europe during the Cold War,
if you look at like Kafka or if you look at Vaclav Havel, right, who was a brilliant playwright
who ended up president of the Czech Republic randomly after the Velvet Revolution. But you can see in this literature where these writers have discovered or they rather elucidate the way that communism worked in those nations where it's like they tell you one thing and then they do something else.
Like if you look at the trial, right?
Did you read Kafka's trial?
So I read this in high school and I had to convince them to let me read it.
But whatever. So this guy, Kay, ends up on trial and he can never get any real information as to what he's on trial for,
what it's about, who his solicitor is, what the punishments are going to be.
It's all just very confusing. And it's very much like in
metamorphosis where he becomes the bug, right? So the guy becomes, and this is probably easier to
explain, but so he becomes, he wakes up one morning, he's a cockroach. He's horrified that
he's a cockroach. He doesn't know what to do about it. He goes all through, how am I going to explain
this? What am I going to do? I don't know. As soon as he accepts the fact that he's a cockroach and
nothing makes any sense and there's no way out of it that's the end that's sort of that's kind of
the whole he's like i'm gonna go eat some garbage no he just kind of dies he like dies under his bed
i think well that's brutal well yeah but that's that's what this is if they confuse you enough
if they make you so confused that you stop questioning it because to question it itself is going to make you crazy,
that's sort of the end goal because then you don't question.
Then you just do what you're told.
You just show up where you're supposed to show up.
You hand over what they tell you to hand over.
And in return, you get to what?
Like have a drink on Smith Street in Brooklyn.
Watch The Simpsons.
Yeah, watch The Simpsons and, like, jerk off, right?
You get to do that, too.
I studied about the...
They even gave everyone their OnlyFans back.
They're like, we can't take that away.
It's distracting people.
It's too much.
I took this...
I tweeted this thing out.
It's on my Twitter feed somewhere about the gamification of trust, sociological trust.
And what's happening, according to this game theory study, is that not that we've been
overloaded with communication and that there's too much of it.
All this new information, you know, the red pilling and the war on terror and all that.
But it's that the amount of misinformation is causing people to distrust each other.
And then the cheaters, the ones that are willing to game that and work with the distrust, are proliferating as a result.
And if there's too much misinformation,
cheaters will overwhelm the system.
And then you'll have a system of cheaters.
If there's not too much distrust or misinformation,
then the people that are willing to kind of play the game
are going to override the cheaters.
There are some prominent leftist personalities
who have always claimed to be anti-fascist
who are all of a sudden now making YouTube videos being being like why would anyone oppose government mandates on forced medical procedures
and i'm like it's so weird you know for me i've always been so in favor of that so freedoms i've
always been opposed to the coalescing of corporate power that i find myself aligned with whoever at
the time seems to oppose the coalescing of massive corporate and government power. So it used to be the left.
All of a sudden, they're all pro-corporate power,
and now it's the right.
And I say it all the time.
In a few years, you know, there will be a shift backwards.
And, you know, it's people like Jack Murphy,
a really great example of somebody who was a Democrat.
Now he's, like, Democrat to deplorable.
And I don't think it's that he's a Republican by party.
He's a Republican by, you know, who's willing to support more of his ideals. And I don't think it's that he's a Republican by party. He's a Republican by,
you know, who's willing to support more of his ideals. And I feel that way. So I have a feeling
that a lot of people like us who are like maybe in the middle right now, leaning to one side or
the other, will shift back and forth depending on which tribe wants to actually adopt freedom.
And which who's actually willing to back our natural rights. To what you were saying, Ian, you know, about this misinformation thing,
people aren't able to think critically.
So they're not able to differentiate between what's, you know,
supposedly misinformation and what's actually true or anything like that.
And in part, that's because we've completely destroyed our educational system.
So we've destroyed the canon.
We've destroyed the educational system. So we've destroyed the canon, we've destroyed the literary canon, we've taken away Shakespeare and Homer and, you know, all of this other stuff that
used to tell us kind of a timeline of this is a timeline of human thought about ideas. This is how
you can, you know, track truth. This is how you can understand things. We've taken that all away,
we've replaced it with stuff that we think is appropriate to think about now.
And we've been left with a public that doesn't know how to think clearly
because we haven't given them any examples as to how to do so.
I'd like to read a text message I received, allegedly, from the ACLU.
I have a series of text messages from a number from,
I'm not going to say the
number but it's a an aclu number supposedly they say as schools start nationwide kimberly
crenshaw talks teaching the truth about race in america check out our podcast back to school
merch that backs civil liberties why did the aclu text me saying that kimberly crenshaw is going to
you know have a podcast about back-to-school stuff?
She is – like, listen.
She created intersectionalism.
Kimberly Crenshaw is as close as you can get to being a Nazi as you can in the modern era, in my opinion.
When I see the stupid people walking around with the symbols of the Nazi party or whatever or like the bikers who do it because they're trying to be, you know, punk or edgy or anti-establishment. That's very different from someone who is overtly identitarian, wanting government based on race,
and is a proponent of fascistic ideologies, whether they assert them verbatim or not.
But the people who are like, I believe the government should have absolutely authority to do these things.
And also, I think the law should be based on race.
Okay, yeah, that's as close as you can get to what the nazis were doing so when i see some
of these prominent you know leftist youtubers with over a million subs and they're like you know
these anti-vaxxers are saying that the vaccine mandates are bad and the government shouldn't
be doing this but people just do what the government tells them i'm like so you support
race-based ideology identitarianism so does the government you support race-based ideology, identitarianism. So does the government. You support massive,
multinational pharmaceutical countries
getting guaranteed no liability contracts,
and you support the government
forcing people to undergo medical procedures.
Yo, you're Nazis.
Yes.
You're as close as you can get to it.
You're at the very least fascist.
Yes.
I'm just going to go straight
for violating Godwin's law right away
because it's the... Look, when someone's like, you know, you just want people to live the way you want because you're a Nazi.
It's like, well, hold on.
I personally think people should take care of their own decisions and take care of themselves and their friends and their families so long as they're not hurting other people. it's the dominant left Democrat faction that are basically saying pro-corporate power,
guaranteed contracts for massive,
unaccountable pharmaceutical countries,
and the government will mandate the Medicaid.
Pharmaceutical countries.
Twice you said that.
Are you prophesying something?
I know we have theocracies.
You see what's happening?
Because they're merging in my mind like I'm slipping.
Listen, listen.
Massive multinational corporations say, here is the product.
And these left establishment people are going, yay, save us, big pharma.
And then the government says, and you have to buy their product.
And they go, yay, save us.
And I love it.
Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks said said do you think if the if the right wingers
came out and said seat belts were tyranny that they would all stop wearing them and i'm like yo
libertarians do think forcing people to wear seat belts is tyranny and you know what i remember this
back in illinois when they passed the uh the law saying you have to wear a seat belt click it or
ticket and what i was told i'm not saying it's true because i was a kid at the time and it was
just the scuttlebutt i heard from the adults, was the insurance companies were lobbying for seatbelt laws because it made sure their profits stayed the same because you have to have insurance.
But it meant their payouts would go down because people were less likely to get injured.
And the politicians saw it as a safety issue and the insurance companies saw it as a reducing their expenses issue. So yes, it very much was in this Bloombergarian idea
of the people are too stupid to live their own lives.
So the nanny status tell them what they have to do.
And now we have click it or ticket.
I hate the thing too, where it's like,
people are like, why don't you,
the vaccine is free, just get it.
And it's like, it's not, it's so obviously not free.
The Pfizer one is like 19.25 a shot.
The other ones are like 10 bucks or something like that.
It's like my kid is going to be paying for all of this stuff.
What they were doing free vaccines for a while.
But I think that ended, didn't it?
No, I'm pretty sure it's still free.
Oh, you could get it free at the Rite Aid.
Oh, I thought you were saying it wasn't free.
No, it is free, but it's not free.
I mean, it's not actually free.
The government is paying for it. Oh, right, right, right mean it's not actually free the government is paying for it
oh right right our taxes are paying so we're paying for it and the administration is like
sending out 250 a month to families who have kids for like every kid see this is weird but this is
the thing too is like this booster shot thing right so now booster shots every five months
yeah so we're just going to keep paying for that forever it's like they finally figured out a way to turn us all into lifelong medical patients.
They've been trying to do that for a while now.
And here it is.
And so at a certain point, your vaccine passport is useless anyway, unless you re-up your dose.
Here we go from Insider, Business Insider.
Fauci says U.S. still planning for COVID-19 booster after eight months.
Biden said shots could be administered after five.
I know some people who already got theirs and it hasn't been eight months.
Wow.
There was a tweet I saw where they were like, well, now all the data screwed up because we had like the regimen, you know, two shots and then we'll track what happens.
And now people are getting more.
And look, I say it.
I say it all the time.
When there was a there's a report we also have.
Let me see if I can pull this up.
This is from timcast.com.
Switzerland warns of potential terror attacks
on vaccination sites.
The Swiss Federal Intelligence Service
voiced its concern with the national newspaper
of the weekend.
That is horrifying.
If people go to their trusted medical professional,
do some research or whatever,
make a decision for themselves,
and that means they want to go get the vaccine. They should be allowed to do it.
Nobody should be stopping people from getting medicated, whatever that medication might be.
Because there are a lot of people who are like, you know, that particular antibiotic is bad for
this reason. It's like, dude, mind your own business. And so when it comes to Fauci and
Biden and other discussion around five months, they'll get a booster the problem is not in my opinion the
vaccine the problem is the authoritarianism that that is the problem with it yeah you see i mean i
i was vaccinated like the problem is telling everybody what to do and making making listen
i was talking okay i mean we get to have decisions i was talking to a lefty friend of mine and I said,
you are supporting a massive, guaranteed, no liability contract for big pharma. It's the
opposite of universal health care. And if this goes through, you will never see universal health
care. The other. No, that's interesting. The other thing, too, is there have been, you know, any time anyone tries to make a report about some concern with the vaccine,
that gets squashed by social media instantly.
Oh, that's right.
So there's no way to have a public conversation
because everyone's opinions have already been bought and sold.
So you're not allowed to.
The rules.
For instance, here, Putin says no to vaccine mandates.
Have you guys confirmed this at all?
Yeah, I didn't see that.
Who's reporting on it?
Because I can't find any large organization
reporting on this.
I've got welovetrump.com,
coronanews123.wordpress.com.
But okay.
Talk about authoritarianism
or the lack thereof
when the Russian premier
is decided president, is that what he's called?
They're not going to do mandates if that's real.
I think this all comes down, it hinges on do you think-
Well, then they'd have to give it away anyway, so maybe that's part of it.
What do you mean?
Well, probably they don't want to pay for all those vaccines for their entire population.
Maybe.
I don't know.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
Another reason.
But this entire thing hinges
whether or not these people are Nazis, whether
blah, is like, what's the threat level
of COVID? This story's actually pretty old.
I've got something from, this is funny, it didn't come up on Google
but it came up on DuckDuckGo.
Putin says Russia won't make COVID vaccines
compulsory, but skepticism remains a problem.
It's from May 27th.
I googled searched it and I couldn't find anything.
And then I went on DuckDuckGo and it popped right up.
Okay, maybe it's just a resurged article.
I know he got the vaccine.
Or maybe he said something recently.
Yeah.
Isn't it crazy?
I saw a comment where somebody, I think it was on Reddit, where they were talking about
how emigrating to the United States and wondering if now they actually want to go back to Russia.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, because of what's happening in the United States.
It's absolutely insane.
It is absolutely insane.
I hear these stories from friends where they're like,
oh, my friend texted me about being friends with you.
Someone will say something like,
oh, I got a text from a friend where they were like,
I can't believe you would be friends with this person or that person.
I can't believe you would watch this show or that show.
Or you watch Alex Jones.
Like how could you watch or listen to Dave Rubin?
He's far right.
You know Tim Pool.
That's crazy.
And I'm like, you know what this reminds me of?
It reminds me of being a kid and having people being like, I can't believe you turned away from the church.
I can't believe it.
What's happened to you? And it's like this level of dogmatic faith and this emotional manipulation of messaging someone and saying these things.
I'm like, yo, these people are in a cult.
Well, it's apostasy, right?
Because you've committed apostasy.
That's what it is.
Here's the important thing.
When someone would join a cult back in the day, you could take them away from the cult and deprogram them.
But you had to get them away from the cult
you can't do it anymore it's their phone yeah it's everywhere it's linked into their minds
well and now they're fed back that same algorithm so there's it's very hard to break away from that
you have to go to duck duck go apparently even then when i searched putin vaccine on duck duck
go i got putin gets coronavirus vaccine from Well, you have to search for the title.
Like Putin says no vaccine mandate.
Yeah.
No, I mean, yeah, you're right.
I'm not an expert with searches.
Search for the words.
Search for them.
You will find them.
Give me the words, Tim.
I just searched for on DuckDuckGo, Putin vaccine mandate.
And then a bunch of stories popped up.
Putin says no compulsory vaccines.
Yeah, rock.
I mean, to be fair, Biden said no compulsory vaccines.
Oh, it's from RT.
Well, but he lied.
Well, I got CNBC right here.
Cool.
Well, the government isn't, like the federal government isn't doing it.
Bill de Blasio is doing it at the city level.
Yeah, but.
And all these other cities, San Jose is doing it.
Yeah, and New Orleans and San Francisco.
And they're all doing this with the full backing of the federal government.
Biden goes out there and says that he wants everybody to do this.
He encourages big companies to, I think it was just recently, like the other day when
the FDA approved the vaccine, was it like a week ago?
Yeah.
And he encouraged big companies to require all their employees to get vaccinated.
This is another really weird thing that I've talked about before, but people keep emailing
me claiming that the vaccine, thefizer vaccine isn't fda approved and they're using like it's the weirdest thing a
twisted semantic argument that is not true is this that's the like other drug that has a different
name community yeah which is literally the exact same vaccine as per the fda letter and so when
bannon was here he mentioned this and i was like uh i don't think that's true. And I Googled it. I'm like, it says right here, it is the vaccine that is approved.
And then I got a bunch of emails like Bannon is right, Tim, take a look at this. And there
are a bunch of articles like, you know, Patriot, National, you know, info or whatever. And it says
something like, take a look at this letter. And so I read the FDA letter and it literally says
the formulation is identical and interchangeable,
but one is the marketing brand either can be used because they're the same thing.
What he was saying, I thought, was that Pfizer has a bunch of different vaccines that it's
working on and only one of them has been FDA approved.
That's the community one.
So when people say the Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved, they're not being accurate because
it's one of the Pfizer vaccines.
There's one COVID-19 Pfizer vaccine.
It is being marketed as community.
They are the same exact vaccine under just different names.
The FDA letter says it is commonly known as the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine, which will now
be marketed as community.
They are interchangeable and an identical formulation.
And so for some reason, people are claiming, you know,
there are actually two different ones.
I'm like, what?
Yeah, is Pfizer working on other COVID vaccines?
I don't know.
But I thought that's what Steve was saying.
No, so people keep emailing me this,
thinking that there's some like underhanded scheme
to like trick people into thinking that community is available,
but it's not really.
That way they're not liable.
And it's like, no, no, no, just like, did you read it?
And so I just take a quote from the letter and it says like these are identical interchangeable
and the same exact formulation and i email it back i'm like i don't know why you thought that
was true did you read the letter right but people i think i think it's because when a lot of people
said oh you know i'm not going to get it until it's fda approved right and that was their like
rationale and then once it got approved they needed to maintain a rationale well then that was biden's whole speech last week was like all you
people who were waiting for it now it is i think just assert everyone just get it if you if you
really are like you know it just just say it just publicly state how you feel about it and don't
rely on semantic arguments right and maybe if you don't want to get the vaccine or any medical treatment, then that's kind
of up to you.
It's up to you.
And I am not going to give people medical advice.
When it comes to like mandating it and whether those people are Nazis that want the government
to mandate this is like how dangerous is COVID?
That's what we have to ask.
Because when people got polio and were getting paralyzed, they didn't say it was authoritarian Nazism to mandate a vaccine.
They just did it.
Well, maybe they did.
I wasn't around.
My dad got it.
He took it on the arm.
There were a lot of people who didn't want to get it.
And also the federal government at the time put out a few different statements saying, you know, as people get this vaccine, people are going to die.
It doesn't necessarily mean that it's from the vaccine.
People die anyway.
And sometimes these things are going to be, you know, coincidental.
The CDC says it very, very bluntly.
They've said it to me in a statement as I interviewed people.
I actually interviewed one of the highest guys at the CDC in like his full military uniform a few years ago.
And they said, we know there are side effects and adverse effects. We know that some people
face problems, but percentage wise, it is substantially better that people get vaccinated
than not even with the side effects. Basically, they're saying the needs of the many outweigh the
needs of the few or the risk from the vaccine is substantially lower than the risk from not
getting it for society as a whole.
So my thing is like I'm very much for the individual.
I think you have to find someone you trust when it comes to medicine, a medical professional
and come to a personal decision that I'm not going to make for you.
I want to get sued.
That's even what you were saying, talking to that CDC official a few years ago.
That's even different than the messaging we're getting now, right?
No, I don't think so.
I think it's on their website.
The CDC literally has it.
Okay.
Yeah.
But from the mainstream media, from social media, like the way that that message is interpreted, that sounds very reasonable, right?
The way that that message is interpreted is almost as though to say the American public is too stupid to figure out what to do.
Bloomberg literally said that.
Yeah.
And so, you know, the way it's interpreted is that people are not trusted to make their own decisions.
That's the problem, right?
If that was what we hear all the time and people were like, oh, that's interesting.
I'm going to make my own decision.
I'm going to think about it.
But people are told not to think about it, to just do what they're told.
And that's the issue that is the problem the problem this is why i think we're all
it's all collapsing first we got the failure of afghanistan the absolute chaos of the biden
administration donald trump was anti-elected so people voted not for biden they voted against
trump but it's like the most extreme degree i've ever seen in my life you have economic crisis labor shortages and you have no national
unity and i don't mean just like obviously there's a culture war i mean quite literally
a crisis happens there's 15 days to slow the spread and then instantly every single grifter
of grifters comes out to make money the pharmaceutical companies want no bid guaranteed
no liability contracts the government government just says, fine.
Then all of these local jurisdictions are like, I don't care.
I don't want to be held responsible.
So whatever that guy says, you do.
All that's happening is people are saying, I want nothing to do with you.
I want stuff for me.
Like I said, what we're seeing is the elites knowing that we hit an iceberg and they're stealing all the silverware and running to the safety boats before anyone realizes what's happening.
This was interesting, too, the other day.
So we have a mayoral election going on in New York City.
de Blasio is going to be out, which is great.
Eric Adams is the he won the Democratic primary in June.
He was the Brooklyn Borough president.
He's relatively popular.
He was not the far left candidate.
So people were displeased that he won that primary.
But anyway, he's running against Curtis Sliwa, who was recently doing a campaign event that was interrupted by a homeless guy who started yelling about stuff.
And Sliwa went over to him. He wasn't miked.
You know, he just went over and started talking to the guy and being like, oh, you know, talking
to him like a human being, which obviously he is. What's your situation? You know, have
you been are you supposed to be taking medication? Have you been hospitalized? And the guy breaks
down and says, you know, I don't want to be a burden to anybody.
I don't, you know, I don't want to do this to everybody.
And Slee was like, no, you're not.
Like, you're our responsibility.
And then he asked him, do you want to stand here with us?
Do you want to stand here with us?
Yeah.
Now, the current administration, de Blasio, de Blasio's wife,
Shirlane McRae, tweets out, like, if you see homeless people,
call the homelessness outreach line.
You had Bloomberg saying, you know, previously saying, if you see homeless people in need of help, you know, don't help them yourself.
Call somebody and call the homelessness outreach to go help them.
And I think this is part of it, too.
We don't take any responsibility for our neighbors.
We don't take any care for the people around us. We assume that there's always somebody else who's supposed
to do that thing and that maybe we should let them know, hey, there's someone bleeding to death over
here. I'm going to be late for coffee, you know, so I can't do it. You deal with it. And we see
that all over the place in our culture where we are supposed to put our trust in the government.
We saw this with Obama.
And I think in a lot of ways, this goes back to Obama.
Like Obama had this whole like video for Obamacare, right?
That was this woman.
And I think her name was Julie in the advertising.
And she was just all by herself.
And at every turn, the government was there to help her
right down to at a certain point, she had a child
and the government was there to help her.
She had a child.
There was still nobody else in the picture at that point.
There was still just her and the child.
There was no one else that she could be.
There was no father, right, is my point.
That's bad marketing.
It was weird marketing at the time.
And I remember looking at it being like,
I don't want to have a baby with the government.
You know, that's not, I'm not up for that.
That's weird and creepy.
And that's where we landed.
I was recently, again, like Facebook with people that I've known for a long time or whatever.
And there was a woman who was saying that someone in California had come up with a lot of money for homelessness housing.
And she found this infuriating because this was a private guy.
And she was like, you know, why do we need this private guy to come up with homelessness housing?
It's not his responsibility.
The government should be doing this.
And I was like, no, this guy should be doing it.
If he thinks that this is his responsibility to take care of people, then he should be doing it. Obviously, we can't just have a government and say, everybody just rely on the government and
the government will come and interfere in every aspect of our lives. We should want to take
responsibility for each other. We should want to care about our neighbors and be cared about.
Why do we not want that? There was an old woman who died next door to me. I had only met her
two times. And I felt so stupid that I had, you know, barely ever interacted with her. And then
her son shows up to clear out her apartment. And he's like, do you want to see you knew my mother?
And I was like, dude, I've met your mother twice. Like, please don't give me her valuable things.
I don't, you know.
Yeah, I'll give a shout out.
I am garbage who lives next door to her.
I'll give a shout out to Luke's video we mentioned before.
It's called, I think it's called, like, Just Keep Going, You Have Nothing to Lose.
Luke Rakowski from We Are Change.
And it's this old video he made back like 10 years ago where he's like, you know, I take the train every day in New York and there's millions of people, but
I noticed they never talk to each other.
So one day I decided to just start talking to these
people. And then he films and asks them questions that
get kind of weird, like, do you trust the government?
But I think it's funny. And it makes a
good emotional point anyway
that people in New York City,
they live around each other.
They're not neighbors. Neighbor is the wrong word.
That is exactly the wrong word.
Remember when Mr. Rogers would say,
hello, neighbor.
That meant something.
Now it's like, you're not my neighbor.
You live next to me and you yell too much.
Yeah, I've actually started trying to talk to the people
in my building now.
Ever since this woman died, I was like, that sucks.
And so I've tried to talk to people
and they just kind of look at me.
But I think I'm going to keep it up.
But there was a sign on the MTA, speaking of not talking to each other on the MTA, with COVID, right?
So there were three options, and the MTA let you know which one was the appropriate option.
The first option was two stick figures having a conversation with no masks, looking animated, having a conversation.
And it said, not this.
The next one was people wearing masks having a conversation. And it said, not this. The next one was people wearing masks, having a conversation. And it said, not this.
And then the final one was two people looking down separately at books, not looking at each other,
having no communication at all. And the MTA was like, this, this is what we want you to do.
Don't talk to anybody. Don't look to anybody. Don't look at anybody.
Don't be near anybody.
Don't exist with other people.
Just live in your own literal bubble behind your face covering and go about your business.
That's the brave new world we live in.
Yeah, that's what happens when you let the corporations take over, man, whether it's the city, the state, the corporate corporation, the centralized authority makes these stupid
machine-like rules and restrictions
on humans when we're not machines.
I watched this movie. It's called,
I think it's called 2149, where it's
like people live in concrete pods their
whole lives, and they just, all they do
is play video games, and they
interact without, just by typing,
and that's like the world.
That's the E.M em forrester story also the
machine stops did you ever read that no what's that it's a free download in fact you can get
it because it's a out of what do you call it copyright the machine stops em forrester wrote
this book 19 i don't know 1914 1918 i don't know when it was something like that and uh all of
these people live underground in their own little studio apartments. And
whenever they need anything, they ask the machine for it. And the machine will provide
it, whether it's food or anything else. Whenever they want to talk to each other, they all
deliver lectures on basically telescreens. It's basically the internet. And that's how
they talk to each other. And they respond.
1909.
1909. 1909.
Wow.
There you go.
Super weird.
Interesting.
Yeah, this is a fascinating story.
So basically, he predicted people sitting in their mom's basements.
Yes, yes.
Playing Warcraft.
Yeah, and he predicted online dating as well.
Whoa.
Because the main character, this woman, I think her name's Vashti or something.
So she lives in her little underground cubby.
She delivers lectures through telescreens. And most of her lectures, most of the things she delivers, she talks about
are responses to other people's lectures. And at the beginning of the story, she talks about how
she was listening to a symphony, and there was a glitch in it. And when she first recognized that
when she first heard the symphony with the glitch, she was very upset and she was, you know, wanted to complain about this glitch.
And now she wouldn't recognize the symphony without it.
Creepy.
It's very creepy.
And also she has a child, but she had a child with a man who showed up.
They, you know, engaged, had a child and he left and she never saw him again.
So it's Tinder, it's siri it's like
everything it's amazon and then of course the machine breaks down and so all of the people
eventually they start like pouring out of their cubbies and the little transport system doesn't
work um and her son who had contacted her makes his way to the surface to breathe air for the first time. And it's
poison and it kills him and he dies.
Yikes!
Wow. E.M. Forrester is amazing.
That led me to read everything
E.M. Forrester ever wrote. And that's
really the best thing. I should have just
stopped there. Well, how about
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there uh smash the like button let's read some super chats deplorable pirate captain gunbeard
says according to a new study kids aged 5 to 11
went from an obesity rate of 36 to 47 because of the lockdown in the u.s i saw that that's really
bad for people so that's a lot jason d says tim you got some interference on your show yes i think
it was because the microphone may have been rubbing against the power cable which causes
interference so the problem is it doesn't seem to be consistent.
It seems to be intermittent.
So I just moved the cables.
Hopefully that solves the problem, but we'll figure it out.
All right, let's see.
Jeffrey Faff says Iran still flies USF-5 1965 with heavy sanctions.
That is amazing.
Yikes. I guess they know how to keep them up.
All right. Let's see. Moonlight Film
says, why does the Biden pullout got to be worse
than Tim Pool's internet connection? That is
not fair. Rude. The interruptions
we've had the past few
times, the past couple of weeks, was on YouTube's end,
not our end. Our internet is
working. We have got this robust multi-network system with fail-safes, and the web was dropping
out, not because of us.
We had a clean connection the whole way through.
All right, let's see.
Hayden says, random, but I thought of something.
Let's see.
Hit IRS and Fed where it hurts by passing amendment
where employers can't take taxes, Medicare, anything out of employee checks, forcing people
to write a check to it to the IRS every year. So it is more clear that return was their money
already. You see, that's the issue. People get paid and their taxes are taken out instantly
as a convenience, right? No, it's so that they don't realize. I remember when I first,
like my second job, actually like my fourth or fifth job, but like my first big corporate job,
and they were like, it's 10, 25 an hour. So I was counting the hours. And then I was like,
okay, so I worked 40 hours. I should be getting about this much money. Taxes will probably come out to this. So I think I'll get this. And I got like half. And then I remember looking at my
check and I'm like, hold on a minute. And they looked through it,
they did the math,
they're like,
that's right.
And I'm like,
yo, I'm poor.
I can't afford to get
five bucks take home.
Like, what is this?
I saw it happen.
So I guess what I mean to say is
for a lot of middle class people,
they don't realize.
At the end of the year,
you're like,
yo, I got a big refund.
Yeah, and they high five
and it's like,
oh, so the money
that was taken from you
just found its way back.
That's great.
But for poor people,
see it. The government earns the interest on your money and you don't get
to earn it yourself yeah you make a lot of money with that i bet they're all i'm sure they do a lot
of delinquencies when people would just get their full paycheck at the end of the year had to pay
taxes and they were like i wasn't planning for this right yeah then there's this weird thing too
so the administration is giving out like money for, right? So every child, every family, every kid, $250 a month.
And I'm wondering what's going to happen when it turns out that they've been sending $250 checks to a bunch of people who aren't actually eligible for that child, that same kind of deduction, or who owe money.
And that's going to be screwed up.
Wow.
There are a couple of Super Chats asking about this.
Paula Ramirez says,
sources are saying that about 200 military service dogs were released in the streets of Kabul.
I haven't heard that, but it would not surprise me.
I saw an image of a bunch of kennels.
Really?
Yeah, it was pretty disturbing.
I couldn't cover it.
Hard to fact check.
Yeah, we got to fact check that stuff.
Sorry.
Christopher says,
I feel like at this point the black swan event
is that Joee biden
messes up everything everything to such a degree that we are all united uniting would truly be
unpredictable i gotta say man good point right now under you know you got a lot of populist leftists
who are ragging on joe biden and the right ragging on joe biden and so now you have this creepy
neocon establishment democrat alliance which has been which has been around for a while, but now they've lost a lot of the populist leftists.
So now it's starting to get funny when you see the populist left being like,
I'm going to buy guns and Biden is terrible. We were betrayed. Everything we thought we were
going to get, we didn't get. And I love it when Biden was like, he didn't meet with Black Lives
Matter or speak with them and they got really angry about it.
It's like, oh, you thought this guy was going to give you something?
Meanwhile, you did get everything that you thought you were going to get.
You got not Trump.
Yeah, there you go.
Congratulations.
Well done.
How's not Trump doing for you?
It's doing, yeah.
There it is.
Josh, oh my gosh, says last year the song Sound of Silence covered by Disturbed was the song of the dang year.
My words fell on deaf ears like silent raindrops.
Dude, Ian, I want to sing with y'all.
I love to sing.
That would be awesome.
I love The Sound of Silence, the electric version from Simon and Garfunkel.
Yeah.
It's a really great song.
You know, you listen to the lyrics, and I don't think it applies in any way, or for the most part, to today.
But it kind of feels like it does, you know?
I don't know the lyrics.
I love that song.
That song is so good. I was just looking at Bridge
Under Troubled Water yesterday, too.
Yeah, like, a lot of it reminds me of Twitter.
Really? Sound of Silence?
Well, yeah, like the lyrics talking about, like, people
not actually listening, praying to the
neon god they made. That's right.
You'll notice if you are completely silent, you'll
hear the blood going
boom, boom, going in your head.
Right.
It's never truly silent.
It's true.
Yeah, there's that room
that's like the quietest room in the world.
Yeah, I want to go there.
That apparently it's so quiet
people can't stand it.
We got to build something like that.
It's not hard to build.
Isn't it like sensory deprivation or something?
That's form of it, yeah.
Well, so it's a room
where you like walk on a platform
and the whole room is like,
it's like spikes all around.
So that sound is completely absorbed. There's no wow i will tell you this i created i had one
little recording studio where i put sound foam everywhere and it it's almost painful it's the
weirdest experience like you there's like it's not like there's a loud echo where you can hear
your words repeated back at you normally but you truly understand sound reflection once you dampen the whole room,
and then it sounds like you're...
It's weird.
It's a weird feeling.
Your words seem to have no weight to them because they just disappear instantly.
They're cocooned.
Yeah, it's a creepy feeling.
Oh, it's awesome.
That's like Vantablack with light.
It sucks up 99% of the light.
That would be a cool room to make. A Vantablack sound absorption. Acoustic room. Have you seen Vantablack with light. It sucks up 99% of the light. That would be a cool room to make.
A Vantablack sound absorption.
Have you seen Vantablack?
It just looks flat.
A black body?
It's just nothing.
They put a laser on it.
Ennish Kapoor has used it for art projects.
Oh, yeah.
Vantablack sound absorption with LED lights of different colors.
That would be the craziest room ever.
We could make like a floating room
where we do that.
It should be floating.
It could be like on a gyroscope.
I don't know about that because
the sound absorption stuff are like pointed.
But it would be like
suspended by cables.
Then you'd go in and it would be two layers.
So the inside room
is mounted on four corners
and then there's a gap
between the outer room
which is suspended on cables.
Everything's Vantablack
and then there's
acoustic absorption
around the whole thing
so you walk in.
You'll still touch.
Right.
That's why with
sensory deprivation tanks
you're floating.
So it's, you know.
It's like the water.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's interesting.
Have you used one of those?
No.
We were talking about building. I have wanted to do a sensory deprivation thing. So it's, you know. It's like the water. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's interesting. Have you used one of those? No. Yeah, I want to get one.
We were talking about building.
I have wanted to do a sensory deprivation thing.
God, that's so bad.
But I think I have trust issues because it's like.
That's it.
How would you.
You just cry.
Yeah.
Just lay there and cry and cry and cry.
That's pretty nice.
All right.
Madison Lynn says, Ian, I saw your Federal Reserve video from 12 years ago.
Did you ever get the word out like you said you wanted to?
Oh, I think I saw your comment.
Well, I'm getting the word out now.
That's who you are.
Sometimes it takes a little while.
There you go.
Oh, yeah.
It's a slow burn.
Yeah.
Bruno Brunoski says, Biden's razor.
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by unimaginable, never-before-seen
incompetence.
That's sort of my take. The sleepy Joe.
I just think the experts aren't that
smart. I think we have totally
misjudged them. Think about it.
They all went to the best colleges, which we now
know are garbage.
Gaiden says, Tim, to correct your timeline,
Al-Qaeda was in Afghanistan
before Taliban. Taliban were the radicalized
next generation that
had been living in exile during the ussr war and were returning when ussr left interesting
well there you go
all right let's see kyle o'brien brian says i would trade biden his administration and all
the woke generals for just one of the service dogs we left behind. Convention of states now, we can't be governed by corrupt cowards who hate us.
That's so sad.
I got a Daily Caller story.
Death sentence, animal rights group goes after Biden administration
for allegedly leaving service dogs behind.
That's from the Daily Caller.
The British took their service dogs home.
Wow.
As good as them, I guess.
They're mad at us for really good reasons.
We deserve it.
Yeah, she is.
Yeah, apparently our special relationship's on the rocks.
Musky Ferret says, so we left Afghans aircraft that they were not able to operate or maintain?
Also, we are there for their natural resources.
Nobody cares for freedom.
That is a based super chat.
Yeah, a lot of poppy, right?
Yeah, poppy seeds.
They give you opium, which you can make heroin with.
No, no, no.
It was clearly to make lemon poppy seed muffins.
It was clearly to reshoot The Wizard of Oz and the scenes so she can lay in the poppies again.
Is that what she did?
She laid in a big field of poppies and just totally got drugged out.
She falls asleep in the movie, but it's opium from the poppies.
So if the Taliban is now going to be making a whole bunch of heroin and our southern border is wide open, are we about to have a massive...
No, the Taliban bans all that stuff, I'm pretty sure.
Really?
Yeah, they like...
But they'll sell it.
They'll export it.
They don't use it in the country.
They don't allow that.
But they'll allow it to get out.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Fun.
All right.
Tin Man says, I was enlisted in the Marine Corps.
And if you lost your weapon during training and couldn't be found,
they would literally close down the base until it was.
Then you'd get NJP'd.
They left $80 billion in weapons in Afghanistan at double standard much?
Oh, that's beyond a double standard, man.
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
I love that your name is Tin Man, by the way, after that Wizard of Oz shout-out.
Daniel Morden says,
Tim, what do you think would happen if the U.S. pulled all of its troops out of South Korea in 1970?
What the U.S. just did by pulling out of Afghanistan was the modern equivalent.
Troop presence is deterrence against aggression.
You know, I think there's similarities, but I don't think it's the same thing.
But there are similarities, and that's the big challenge.
Yeah. But I don't think it's the same thing. But there are similarities, and that's the big challenge. Yeah, this is a moral conundrum I've brought up before because I'm – actually, I'm happy that South Korea exists and is flourishing and is growing and things like that.
At the same time, I don't like the fact that the U.S. gets involved in all these other people's business.
And so it really is a challenge.
I think there's – it's not so much about a principle like I believe in free speech, but more so where do you draw the line on free speech?
Because I can say I'm for free speech all day and night and then be like, oh, but if someone incites violence and then if you entertain the idea that the government can pass a law to say something isn't free speech because incitement to violence is bad.
Then someone says, OK, pass the law saying hate speech isn't free speech.
And you're like, oh, OK, so maybe we're either for all free speech, even if, you know, whatever you say,
or we're okay with the government putting restrictions.
Therein lies the big challenge I think everybody butts into.
So to answer your question,
if the U.S. pulled all the ships out of South Korea,
North Korea would have came in with the Soviets and taken over,
and there would be no South Korea.
It would be, well, I don't know, is Vietnam, how's Vietnam doing?
I haven't looked into the politics of Vietnam.
They have a lot of contracts for manufacturing.
A lot of clothes and things are made there.
Similar to Cambodia, actually,
there was like a whole treaty with regard to that.
Yeah.
So I don't know, you know, it is very difficult.
But I think we should not have entered Afghanistan
in the first place.
Like regarding free speech.
Yeah, I agree with that.
Obviously, you can't go out and on TV
and command people to do violence.
But like if you're in your room alone and you say the most vile, illegal stuff, you're fine.
You're in your room alone.
If the government's spying on you and here's you in your room alone just saying stuff like you're reading a script, you know, you're in you're reading some crazy, violent lines, whatever.
Maybe you're not reading a script.
It doesn't matter because you're alone and you're not inciting violence.
But it can be taken out of context. If they're if they a script. It doesn't matter because you're alone and you're not inciting violence.
But it can be taken out of context.
No, the rest do.
If they're spying on you, it can be taken out of context.
I had an idea for a joke with my friends because we were playing GTA a long time ago, like GTA 4.
And my one friend was yelling these really awful things like, take it to the bridge.
Go to the bridge now.
And I'm like, yo, the things you're saying right now and telling us to do like if we're taken out of context so i just imagine there's like some cops in a van and they're listening and they hear this guy being
like and then we're gonna take the car drive it underneath the bridge etc etc and then the cops
are like it's happening and they break it and it's something like it's like three fat dudes playing
gta like what's happening right like all out of context they're going after phone records and
things i mean it's so all that's out of context.
All right.
Race Gardner says, adding to Ian's point, then we should further assist Elon provide internet to the whole world through the mini satellites.
Side note, did you see the military dogs left in their kennels at the airport?
Yo.
What?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, internet.
Global internet.
That's a big part of it.
They left a bunch of dogs in the airport.
Man.
I'm not putting anything past the U.S. government today.
Why would they do that?
Elizabeth Carmella Comedian says,
to add to all the bad news of the day,
Lake Tahoe is currently burning down here in California.
I live about two hours away.
We've been inundated with smoke for weeks.
Everyone has been evacuated from there.
Please give a shout out to them and pray.
Yeah, sad to hear it.
I hope everybody's okay.
Natural disasters, man.
It's scary stuff.
It's interesting about that with Larry Elder, who's running against Gavin Newsom, has brought
up the points about how a lot of these wildfires are due to poor forestry management.
Yes.
Yeah.
Which a friend of mine, Sashi McEntee, who was the mayor of Mill Valley, California,
has also been saying that these wildfires are in large part because of that.
Yeah, PG&E runs a bunch of old outdated power lines through the forests.
And they're like debris and sticks.
And then one of the power lines will go out and set a forest fire.
But I feel like you should be able to run lines through a forest without having to worry about the forest being so poorly managed that you're going to set the whole state on fire should something go wrong because i feel like
lines are going to go down right and then you shouldn't have to worry about california being
so horribly mismanaged that you're going to burn the whole state i think they run power lines
underground in some places on earth i don't know yeah lots of places new york this above ground
thing's weird yeah um listerable says it's so strange to hear everyone talk about what POTUS does as if his mind was working.
That's a good point, to be honest.
Brendan Thompson says, Tim, I'm sick of you lying about my country, Australia.
Brendan.
Brendan Thompson.
We can buy Foster's Lager here.
What did I say, Brendan?
Oh, it was Brendan.
I think you said Brendan.
I'm just shouting out Brendan.
Oh, okay.
You can buy Foster's.
What do you guys think of Jacinda Ardern? i'm a little weird at out by her she's totally
weird she seems kind of authoritative really and she also had a thing after the christ church
shooting she had a call what she called the christ church call to try and get all western nations to
uh censor internet speech that's crazy i i was working at Mines while that was going on
and facilitating some of the Boost admin stuff,
and people kept posting the video
of the Christchurch shooter first-person video,
and then they'd overlay the Doom console,
and it was like a video game,
like how many people you could shoot in the head.
So disturbing.
But, I mean, it messed me up.
It changed me to see that over and over.
So I understand censoring.
You know, you got to protecting the young mind.
That's like a, that's what this is all about, I think, the censorship thing.
All right, let's see.
Lucy Lurker says Brandon Burns in Las Vegas is working to stage a protest on September 7th
for a mass call-out with a rally in Las Vegas and elsewhere, Freedom of Choice rally.
He has a good take and would be a great guest to have on.
I Google searched vaccine mandate protest,
and I'm pretty sure you can find every single city.
Just name a city.
It was like Roswell, New Mexico.
Dubuque.
Cedar Rapids.
Not Dubuque, but Cedar Rapids.
And it was just like I had a list of like 30,
and I'm like I can't even fit this in my browser,
so I had to get rid of some of them. And I was like I read that in my main segment, like protest, protest, protest, protest. And it's a lot I had a list of like 30. And I'm like, I can't even fit this in my browser. So I had to get rid of some of them.
And I was like, I read that in my main segment, like protest, protest, protest.
And it's a lot of health care workers, too.
That's right.
There's a lot of nurses and stuff.
Saying nah.
Which is interesting, too, because we have such a huge nursing shortage.
And we're willing to just have a worse nursing shortage.
Yeah.
This is it.
Hundreds gather in Santa Monica to protest.
Hundreds protest in New York. Protests in Greece get violent. Like. This is it. Hundreds gather in Santa Monica to protest. Hundreds protest in New York.
Protests in Greece get violent.
Like, this is, like, mainstream.
This should be...
Of course, you're not going
to see it on CNN.
Yeah, you don't see it.
Yep.
You don't see it
unless something violent happens.
And what flag
did the guy in Santa Monica wave?
It looks like the LGBTQ...
I don't know.
It's purple.
There's a photo.
Don't...
Oh, he's got the gas in there.
That's right.
It's a rainbow gas flag. It's purple. There's a photo. Don't tread on me. Oh, he's got the Gadsden flag. That's right. It's a rainbow Gadsden flag.
I love it.
I love it.
Absolutely.
Hey, man, rainbow flag with the Gadsden flag.
Oh, when it comes to my body, I call the shots, and then it shows the shot.
I love the Gadsden pride flag.
That's cool.
Don't tread on me.
The Gadsden flag in many forms.
Have you ever seen the Antifa total fascist one where it says, you know, we will tread and
it's a snake being squeezed by the
fist? I have not seen that.
Yep. And they march around with it. It's
red and black, which is funny because like
they're claiming to be anarchists who are
going to force people who are libertarians
like what? That's right. Yeah.
These people are creepy weirdos.
Anne Mack says
Libby Emmons quote from the last show.
New York artists have been co-opted by
authoritarianism. At this point, it's propaganda.
Do exactly as you're told.
They create the type of work that they are told.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So where do you live, Libby?
Dude.
Come on, you can do it all right let's see
chaos a turn them says truckers join the fight australia and u.s drivers are organizing to
protest i am optimistic we will win this game of chicken spread the word you guys rock truckers
nice that's where there's a trucker shortage. Have you guys seen that? That's why gas prices.
That's a disaster.
In the UK, there's a huge problem too because
most of the truckers are like
55 or older
and they're not getting any new people in
to the business.
And once we don't have anyone
to deliver our crap to us,
what are we going to do?
We're not going to have any stuff we're not
gonna have any food cole will says love tim's non-stop reporting on current events but we need
solutions one is removing the need for fiat and central bank investing what is ian's opinion on
block fi and defy or celsius network and btc after mining is over um well block fi holds your crypto
for you they'll pay you interest on it,
but you don't actually have the money
while they're holding it.
The other stuff, DeFi, what is that?
Decentralized?
Finance?
Finance, yeah.
It's a whole movement called DeFi,
and that's like the decentralized finance movement.
And Bitcoin mining ends in like 100 years or something?
I don't know.
Yeah, eventually.
And then it's going to be proof of stake
as opposed to proof of work.
Where like just the fact that you have the money allows you to get more money.
I think they'll fork Bitcoin. Something will happen. There will be a vote.
It'll fork into something slightly different and then you'll get centralized takeover.
You asked a lot of questions about a lot of different things.
But I agree with you that solutions and new technologies is where we're going.
And we're building new shows
on the Timcast network
about that specifically.
That's why we have
the Cast Castle vlog rolling.
We're just about
hitting daily videos.
The goal is
to not just be always
so negative,
but you take a look
at some of the prominent creators
on YouTube
and where they've gone,
and they're like
legit pro-establishment shills.
You don't even got to think. You can just do the government tells you to do you know it's like no we're gonna make fun videos where we like you know ride around on motorcycles and there's
chickens and you know we race cars and jump over the roof and then we're gonna have a gadsden flag
saying think for yourself and live and live free i want to build a solar powered water condenser
on the property if possible they work more in the the desert, though, so it might not be –
Oh, it's so humid here.
You'd fill up 100 gallons an hour.
Yeah, interesting.
Yeah, we'd be like, Ian, what are you supposed to do with all this water you've condensed?
Drink it.
That's a cool idea.
That's really easy to do.
Good idea, yeah.
Yeah, you just put it outside and you like the water condenser.
Yeah, I'll show you the plan.
Honestly, we could just do a standard water condenser where you do like a really big net with like the sheets.
Oh, those are great.
Those fog catchers.
Yeah, exactly.
And the water just drips down.
I mean, when we had a mini ramp outside every morning, we'd get like two gallons of water on it.
And it was really annoying because I had to go out and sweep it all off just from the humidity.
That would be good vlog content, by the way.
But I was thinking like what if we took the Skate Light material, which is a plastic wood kind of like resin of some sort.
No, it's like a resin wood chip mix.
And what if we just put those up and just funneled them down?
You get so much water every morning.
It's insane.
So you don't even need solar powered.
Yeah, not here.
Those are for deserts, the solar ones.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Were you?
Yeah.
That's what I think our military should be doing is building water for people around the
earth wells and things like that i mean if we build these artificial water capture devices
we could probably reclaim desert oh yeah man bringing water into it at the very least we
can be like yo we're not the bad guys anymore all right let's see uh butt grubber says tim
the state of washington is firing hundreds of employees in the state police alone of the vaccine mandate while taking away their retirement and unemployment benefits.
Look up Trooper LeMay on Jason Rant's podcast.
Yeah, I was talking to a friend and just like a normie.
And then I was just like, what they're doing with the vaccine mandates with no medical exemptions is nightmarish and like Nazi Nazism.
And she was just like, that's not happening.
It is happening.
Yeah.
I'm like, what's happening?
Like prove it.
I'm like, here's me doing the reporting and appearing on Fox News primetime, telling everybody
that New York did this.
You know, it's like you got to just Google search, man.
That's the thing, too, where people don't want to see that the thing is happening.
You don't want to have happening.
So they just assume that it's not because it's illogical.
It's like not checking your bank account balance because you don't want to be out of money.
Right.
That's a clever move.
It's a trick. It doesn't work.
I'm going to try that one next time.
Try it next time.
Neil Williams says, Tim mentioning electric dreams is the equivalent of Joe Rogan mentioning DMT on the podcast.
Yes.
I think Marvel references.
Star Trek, yeah.
Well, Star Trek, it's been Stargate as of lately. Oh, yeah, yeah. But I mentioned the podcast. I think Marvel references. Well, Star Trek,
it's been Stargate as of lately.
But I mentioned Electric Dreams,
I think, five times.
Did you watch Stargate?
I've never really gotten into it.
I've missed a bunch.
I've probably seen like 150 episodes
out of the 200 and something.
Should I start at the beginning and watch it?
It's really good.
Watch the movie.
Movie first?
Did you see the movie?
Movie is really good.
The show starts off based on the movie
but it's it's different it's like there's different plot points different actors different
actors like the plot is different like we're into track but i've seen oh you'll love stargate now
it's i think it's so much but let me let me just i don't want to spoil too much but it is like a
super old show stargate starts off with like modern military just you know like oh look we
got the stargate to these other planets
and these other galaxies.
And it ends with humans adopting all this crazy-ass technology.
And now they have beaming.
They develop.
Well, they get technology from other races that they trade with.
And so it's cool to see humans go from kinetic weapons,
just by luck having a Stargate that allows them to interact
with more advanced technological species,
to having warp capabilities, building the ships, going to war,
and then becoming one of the dominant species in the galaxy.
It's pretty cool.
That's cool.
It's awesome.
James Spader, you familiar with his work?
Yeah.
He's the scientist in the movie.
No way.
He's so good.
My problem with the TV show was I felt like we were missing a James Spader.
Well, you're always missing James Spader when he's not around.
Exactly.
Shout out to James Spader. I love him. always missing James Spader when he's not around. Yeah.
Shout out to James Spader.
I love him.
All right.
Let's see what we got here.
Jonathan Aylmer says, Tim, ICU nurses at Sydney's Prince Alfred and St. Vincent's hospitals are blowing the whistle that patients are being sedated to safely control them.
Whoa.
I haven't heard any of that.
That sounds crazy, but it's true, though. Okay. As a point of reference, too, sedation is a technique that is commonly used in hospitals
to keep people from removing IVs, injuring themselves, falling on the floor.
I used to sit with people who were being sedated to make sure they were still breathing,
make sure they were pulling IVs out and coming undone from their bondage equipment.
This is an important one. Finkenfarn
says, hey Tim and crew, how is the forensic
analysis of the Freedom Phone going? Keep up the good work.
Your voices give hope around the world.
I think it's just better to buy them. Yeah, we have
the people who are going to, we know who's going to
be doing the analysis on them, and now we just need to get them
shipped out. Okay, tomorrow. So you guys are checking those things
out? Yeah, we want to, Ian's got like
a list of like, he's got a crack team
of tech whizzes
developers are working on the fediverse project okay we're gonna shred this thing and then
integrate our software into it for future cool future mods gonna be great
cool so we'll we'll get that we'll get that shipped out tomorrow all right let's see
so a lot of people are saying that I'm wrong about the FDA letter.
Hondo says, Tim, Pfizer says they are legally distinct.
I've read both letters, EUA and the BLA.
Until it's packaged with the legal disclaimer, two items can be identical and packaged differently.
Right.
I'm just wondering what the argument is for a legal distinction and how is that relevant
to saying that the vaccine isn't FDA approved when it's's the exact same thing but you're arguing a brand you know
what i mean like they're legally distinct i get it is it is it an issue of the emergency's
authorization and like liability or something i don't know they're the same they're the same
exact vaccine same exact vaccine just one's got a different name. I want to get to the bottom of this. So apparently something's inaccurate?
Well, I guess they're saying that there is the Pfizer BioNTech vaccine and the community vaccine, which are identical in every way, except they're legally distinct products by name.
And one of them got FDA approved.
The other one did not, but they're identical.
Right.
I see.
And they can be used interchangeably.
Oh, okay.
That's what the letter said. Okay so okay but i so i don't so technically it's not fda approved but it can be used interchangeably
with the one that is i but i think that's kind of semantics you know what i mean yes like the
fda saying like this formulation it's good to go it's weird that that happened i don't know whatever
i think you know as per usual don't take medical advice from wackos on the internet
we're just internet people talking to cameras you know i'm not your lawyer i'm not your financial
advisor i'm not your friend i'm not your foe okay i'm just kidding find your own lawyer find your
own investment find your own doctor talk to them and get sound advice i i do think when it comes
to all of this stuff there's a few things i should say legal advice is never really an issue on
podcasts i guess but when people do legal shows but when it comes to finance and when it comes to
medical stuff get off the internet you know why i get we get super chats all the time from people
saying like hey tim big fan of the show you just wanted to shout out the hard work you're doing
and mention that you know brn crypto is the number one currency and everyone should okay dude i just
made i don't even know like no dude people are always trying to do some kind of social media thing to, like, pump and dump.
Yeah, and the same thing is true.
Like, there's a lot of people who are posting things with confirmation bias or cultural issues.
Just make sure you talk to people you know and trust because the internet is a crazy place full of crazy people.
That's why I'm, like, the vlog is so important, the Cast Castle stuff because it's, like, really you're going to see people who have the principles of freedom.
Like, you know, Andy is wearing a Rothbard shirt while he's skating,
but it's not a
show about politics. It's not like we're going to be preaching
to you about what you should... It's just going to be like inspiring
you to be a better person, have fun,
get some optimism, making good
news, fun news, you know, the dog running
around and the chickens are flapping and jumping
and just, you know. Dude, me and Carter were
playing music earlier. Carter Banks, he's our resident uh orchestrator yeah new producer
magnificent musician man did it sound good cody mcnutt says i have a gadsden prides flag hat patch
it really confuses people i love it absolutely all right let's see We'll do a couple more here.
The survival preppers say the VAX mandate is a purge of those who don't align with the promoted narrative.
Hundreds and thousands of people are going to be fired.
Who will they be replaced by? If you're not prepping already, it's a good time to get started.
Thanks, Tim and crew.
Do you guys see this thing on Facebook where it's like somebody posted something about canning?
Like making jam and beans
and then putting it in a can.
Facebook has a warning. I haven't confirmed it
but people have tweeted it out saying
does it feel like someone is becoming too prepared?
Notify.
Look for the signs of extremism.
That's insane.
I saw a couple different posts.
I haven't confirmed it.
We also had a thing on Facebook where it was like, you may have been exposed to
extremist content.
Yeah.
That's hysterical.
My favorite was the meme of the shifty-eyed guy going like this.
And it said, when all of your friends get notifications about extremist content, but
you don't.
It's you.
Yeah.
It's you.
Oh, no.
You're doing it.
All right.
Let's see.
Riley Anderson says, hey, Tim tim fellow beanie guy here can you explain why you consider yourself left-wing libertarian and more importantly where you disagree with modern republicans that
classifies you left libertarian well republican doesn't necessarily mean libertarian or whatever
republicans tend to be like i would say overwhelmingly moderate conservative leaning towards, what's the right way to put it?
Classically liberal, not colloquially liberal, like the actual truiting of liberal as opposed to libertarian.
But left libertarian is basically like hippies living on a farm.
Where I disagree with Republicans is probably on like I'm less free market capitalism than many Republicans.
I'm in favor of social programs.
The problem I always mention though is that idealistically it's really easy to be like
we should all cooperate and have certain system in place that have certain guarantees like
I love the fact that the fire department exists.
I love firefighters.
They're fantastic.
I like the idea of the armed forces and these things are – it's a government service., you, you know, it's, it's a government
service.
It's a guarantee.
And I think there's good reasons to have them.
So the issue is basically like on the left and right scale of the political compass,
the right is where you start getting into more and more free cap, free market capitalism.
The left is where you get more and more into what's the right way to put it?
Um, cooperative systems.
So, um, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's hard to actually break down. But the simplest way to explain it
is left libertarian would be like 10 hippies living on a farm or a small tribe of 30 people
that come to agreements, a family. I think Jack Murphy mentioned this. A family is communist.
There's a guy who's the father and the mother. They're in charge. They control things.
They delegate responsibilities. The children just have to do what they're told, but they're
provided for. And that makes sense at a really small level. So left libertarian is like, hey, I'm not going to
tell you what to do, but if you want to come hang out, pitch in around the house, we got pizza,
we got beers. It doesn't work when you go into multiple cities because now one city is like,
that's not fair that we do this work and you get that. And then you start needing better
systems of economics. So the way I usually say it is, idealistically, I'm left libertarian. Realistically,
I'm like socially liberal. So I'm like centrist, you know, slightly left leaning on some policies.
I'd love for there to be universal health care within this system. I don't know if the system
is free of corruption to the point where we could actually have it. So I'll leave it there.
Make sure you smash the like button. You have to uh ian's life depends on it oh
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