Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #368 - Larry Elder Attacked By Woman In Gorilla Mask ft/Sean Parnell & Peter Quinones

Episode Date: September 9, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host Peter Quinones, documentarian and host of the Free Man Beyond The Wall podcast alongside Sean Parnell, veteran, NYT best-selling author, and senate candidate in Pennsylvania t...o analyze Larry Elder's assault by a leftist dressed as a gorilla, Joe Biden's clear corruption and the media's choice to look the other way, Joe Rogan's consideration of suing CNN after they claimed he took 'livestock medicine', the collapse of the American economy, and Jimmy Kimmel's new stance on medical need. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Leading recall candidate Larry Elder was attacked by white liberals, a woman wearing a gorilla mask, and they were throwing eggs at him. And I believe someone with Larry actually got punched in the face because these people are completely out of their minds. As you know, there is a recall looming. The election is on the 14th. I believe it's September 14th. And this could mean that Larry Elder becomes governor. Now, the polls have started swinging in favor of Gavin Newsom, the Democrat. And there's been a big push from Democrats to, quote, unquote, stop the Republican recall.
Starting point is 00:00:30 But we'll see. It's yet to be seen. I think the data is actually still favorable for those who oppose Newsom. Again, yet to be seen. Regardless, I'm not surprised he has this kind of attack. It's absolutely disgusting. So we'll get into stories like that. We also got Joe Rogan questioning whether he should sue CNN because CNN's Aaron Burnett said that Joe Rogan
Starting point is 00:00:50 ingested livestock medicine. We got a lot to break down. Joe Biden apparently defying his handlers by saying I'm supposed to leave and then not leaving. This is going to be real interesting. And now he's trying to dismantle this nonpartisan military panel. So it should get pretty interesting. We got a couple of great guests. We are being joined by Pennsylvania Senate candidate Sean Parnell. Do you want to just give a brief introduction? Hey, I'm Sean. I'm running for Senate in Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Endorsed by Trump? Just recently endorsed by Trump. I'm an Afghanistan combat veteran. Now I write books for a living and come on your podcast a lot. Right. I love it. And we also got libertarian podcast host Peter Quinones. Do you want to introduce yourself? I pronounce that right, right? Yeah, man. Pretty good. Host of the Free Man Beyond the Wall podcast and executive producer of the Monopoly on Violence, which is a documentary about the state and anarcho-capitalism and libertarianism in general.
Starting point is 00:01:49 And that is on Amazon Prime. And, yeah, thanks for having me. Man, I feel like we need to have a socialist in the room to balance things out. Oh, I could do that. I'll do that for you. He'll do that for us. What's up, everybody? I'm Ian Crossland.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I'm a socialist. And I like social programs. Actually, I find myself on the libertarian right these days. Go Game Stonks. We were just talking about the popularity. Tim, you were saying there's six different political factions at this point? New York Times wrote an article where they were like, here are the six political factions within the parties right now.
Starting point is 00:02:17 And I think it makes a lot of sense. They say the Growth and Opportunity Party are like the Trump supporters, right-wing populists, American populists, and they're not Christian conservatives because theian conservative is a separate party and i think that makes sense so to find myself as a populist uh conservative populist just blows my mind i mean i'm a liberal you're not conservative not really no but i identify with that movement right now isn't that the weirdest thing though that like ian can sit here and say a bunch of things that people in the chat are like ian is clearly a leftist, but they will call him right wing by simply hanging out, having these conversations, saying the Democrats are bad or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:50 It's all it takes. All right. We'll get some of that balance. It's not real hard, man. When you have the left dominating everything, it's real easy to react and go right. Yep. Especially if you're a logical thinker. It's true. And you're seeing the size and scope of the federal government grow in ways that we have never seen before in this country. And not just bureaucracy, but the way that they track people, people's movements, social media, all that stuff just creates a sense of, I think, fear among people who are afraid of losing their freedom. But I think, you know, you can look at Australia
Starting point is 00:03:26 and you can see the quarantine camps and all the insanity they're doing with tracker apps and all that craziness. I think the U.S. would shatter until a million pieces before that would happen here because West Virginia is not going to be, like, on board with that. These mountain folk are going to be, like, come and take it. You know what I mean? But we'll get into all this stuff. We also got Lydia.
Starting point is 00:03:43 She's pressing all the buttons. I am the corner. Today I was reading that Australia is confiscating alcohol from Australians whom they've put into lockdown. So I'm really curious if that is what lights this on fire.
Starting point is 00:03:54 So I guess we'll find out. You can take a lot of things away from people, man. But you take their booze. Yeah. It's not good. All right. Well, before we get into
Starting point is 00:04:01 this story about Larry Elder, make sure you go to TimCast.com. Become a member. There will be a members-only podcast coming up. We usually publish around 11 or so p.m. That is for members only, but you will also get access to all of our amazing journalism without advertisements on it. And as a member, you're helping support us in our efforts to hire more people, do more shows. We have a bunch of stuff in the works. I know that, you know, I've been saying that for a long time because we have this mystery show we're doing. But first you've got to vet people. First you've got to find somebody. Then you've got to vet them. Then you've got to, you know, interview them. Then you've got to
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Starting point is 00:04:46 It's the most powerful thing you can do. If every single person who is watching this show right now shared it on social media, we'd be bigger than CNN in two seconds. But if everybody did. So do your part. And smash the like button for Ian. A sad Ian. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Needs your like. That's true. Not so sad anymore. I can feel it. I can feel the likes being tapped. All the likes pouring in. Ian Flux. Well, let's start off with this Larry Elder thing. I've got to be honest.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I think there's so many extremely important stories right now. We've got, obviously, the Afghanistan stuff, which has been going on for a long time, especially with your expertise, Sean. We could talk about this. But then as we're coming in and sitting down, I saw this story, and for one, I'm like, this one makes me really, really mad for a few reasons. From TimCast.com breaking larry elder attacked by white liberal in gorilla mask throwing eggs now personally i don't know if liberal is the right word to use it is kind of kind of like the colloquial word used for
Starting point is 00:05:38 like the opponents but this person's a nut you know what i mean like i'm not gonna i guess until the the mainstream liberals come out and condemn this actively i don't know what I mean? Like, I'm not going to, I guess until the mainstream liberals come out and condemn this actively, I don't know what else to say other than they're in the same, under the same umbrella. But the story is, California gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder was attacked by a white liberal in a black and pink gorilla mask in Venice on Wednesday. The mask-wearing leftist was throwing eggs and shouting as Elder walked by. The belligerent attacker also punched a member of Elder's entourage who was attempting to get them to calm down and step away.
Starting point is 00:06:09 One of her friends also punched him in the back of his head as someone else threw an egg. Quote, put your hands on me again and I'll F you up. The ape-masked attacker was heard shouting. Another protester ranted to the media present that Elder, who is black, doesn't even like his own people. Quote, a flying egg narrowly missed the back of recall candidate Larry Elder's head after it was thrown by an activist wearing a gorilla mask in Venice.
Starting point is 00:06:32 A scuffle broke out and the candidate was escorted into an SUV. Kate Cagle, the journalist who filmed the incident, wrote in a tweet. And I'll tell you what really bothers me about this, aside from the fact these people are lunatics, is that if this was someone on the right wearing a gorilla mask and going up to a black Democrat, it would be the front page, number one, above the fold, New York Times, white supremacy. That's exactly where I was going to take it. I was thinking this the entire time as you were speaking, that, yeah, if this were someone
Starting point is 00:07:02 on the right, it would be national news. You'd have the Today Show out there interviewing people. Oh, he was wearing a red hat. I mean, you know that that would be the dominant headline. Oh, but I mean, no, but this is a guerrilla match. And you approached this really, really fair, right? Like, well, this guy, he's defined as a liberal, but he's probably just somebody that's struggling. Oh, I didn't see the news.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Right. Yeah, but yeah, it's just someone that's a little crazy, not really a liberal. But if it were a conservative, you would get no such grace from anybody. This is what they're saying, right? So the LA Times called Larry Elder the black face of white supremacy. It's insane. Which is insane. It's insane. Which is insane.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And then a leftist wearing a gorilla mask throws eggs and punches someone in his group. Where's all of the headlines? Where's Don Lemon saying, ladies and gentlemen, white supremacy is alive in this country. A white woman in a gorilla mask attacking a black. You don't see it. Because it's not about race. Not about racism. All this critical theory stuff is just we want power. And the double standard is fairly obvious isn't it well isn't this the you just look at this and you're like we need to break up we need to break up just go right to it we need
Starting point is 00:08:15 to break someone threw an egg and we're done yeah we're done but think about what did you just say you just said that the press controls the narrative until the right gets a way to control the narrative they're always going to be in charge i mean they've spent the last century taking over academia and the press okay well of course you're you're so you're so right and i think for years what the dynamic was at least for the last 15 or 20 years, the left would set their talking points. And what's interesting about the modern day left or the new Democrat party is their talking points are set by three or four people at the top of their party, and they trickle down to the rest of the party, which is why a congressman in western Pennsylvania espouses the same views
Starting point is 00:09:01 as a congresswoman in Southern California, as in Southern Florida. They're all the same. So they set these talking points, and then in the past, they'd use the media to amplify these talking points. But over time, as the market changed and stuff, you had Fox News created and talk radio, and conservatives had their alternative media. But what I think is so dangerous today is, so you've the same dynamic between Democrats setting their talking points and the media helping to elevate them. But now you have big tech who is censoring any conservative counterpoint. And I think one of the greatest threats that we face as a country today is the collusion between uh the the modern day democrat
Starting point is 00:09:46 party big tech big business and and big media and to to sort of take people's freedom away from them and so you were talking about like some sort of alternative alternative media hopefully over time we'll get there but as long as big tech can shut your show down, I mean, look at this stuff. They could shut your show down tonight if they wanted to. Well, I will say a lot of people have taken for granted what the internet has given them. Or I shouldn't say it that way. That's the wrong way to put it.
Starting point is 00:10:16 You can't go on Tucker Carlson's show and say a lot. There's a lot of stuff you can't say on Fox News. That's true. We actually have way more leeway here on YouTube, but there's also things they can say that we can't say on Fox News. That's true. We actually have way more leeway here on YouTube. But there's also things they can say that we can't because YouTube has editorial guidelines, which are not about community standards. So that is a very serious problem. But I'll tell you, one of the biggest problems is, and you can see how the left reacted to this, especially in how they threw eggs at Larry Elder. The right never fought back.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The American right seemed to think that appointing judges solved the problem, and it didn't. The cultural institutions are where everything comes from and flows from, and big tech is involved in that. And I think a really good example of the problem, the New York Times can just take any story, say it, and every conservative immediately pivots to address whatever the New York Times told them to talk about. So there can be some big news, like right now, Larry Elder gets attacked. This white liberal, she's a racist, white supremacist. I'll say, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:12 How dare she do that? And you're not going to see it in the media. Joe Rogan, right? We'll get into this in a minute in greater detail. But Joe Rogan talks on his Instagram channel about what his doctors prescribe him. And CNN says he's taking livestock medicine. Even though people don't trust the media. Independent.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I mean, the media has very little trust across the board. Even with that, still, they set the conversation and something. I'll tell you what's interesting. The Ukraine gate stuff with Joe Biden, when that stuff was going down and I was researching what was going on with Burisma, the corruption of the Biden family. I found a lot of damning information, but I had to go to Eastern European sources and vet them. And it was very difficult because I'm like, I don't know who these people are, right? I don't know if these are credible sources. I don't know why I should trust CNN for that instance in that circumstance.
Starting point is 00:11:57 But the interesting thing was, this is considered fringe because CNN didn't mention it. If CNN doesn't talk about it and you do, it's irrelevant, fringe, conspiracy, crackpot nonsense. Regardless of whether or not CNN or The New York Times or any of these outlets is talking about something true or false, if you talk about anything off the path of their controlled narrative and opposition or support, then you're in fringe territory. That's something that needs to change. The right needs to figure out how to actually set the tone and set the conversation. Well, you have to also ask, is the press doing politicians bidding or politicians doing the press's bidding? I have a friend who was a reporter and he said he stood, he was in rooms where he watched reporters bully politicians into positions. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So look at Fauci and the mask thing. Look at the last four. Look at the last five years. I mean, from to that from 2016 to 2018, the Republicans had the executive, the judiciary and the legislative. They couldn't get anything done. And then right wingers were like, oh, well, that's because the left. I'm like, yeah, that's because you guys had you guys thought you had power, but the left was still in power yep and until people start realizing that and start looking for alternatives look at look at look at look at russia the the the mainstream media comes out and says oh russia russia russia because hillary clinton said so said so and the republicans in 2016 to 2018 were like well you know we should reasonably look at this and
Starting point is 00:13:24 then ukraine gate happens and it's nothing this is the problem the republicans you know what i think it was i think that we had a uniparty for a long time republicans and democrats basically the same thing so the republicans were like rolling their eyes we don't care about trump we don't want any of this but the populist right gaining more and more power and they're forced to reckon with it so i think uh next year 2022 we might see something really really fascinating that being that being said we might see something crazy if larry elder becomes governor of california yes and by the way there are so many angles to talk about this uh this very problem from but what you were talking about about joe biden and and burisma and ukraine and the whole like
Starting point is 00:13:58 you know i said you know fire the prosecutor who is investigating my son or my family for corruption, or you don't get the billion dollars. That is a clear-cut quid pro quo. We'll have to break that one down, though. Sure, sure. But I'm just saying, from 30,000 feet, you've got Joe Biden having a conversation with the president of Afghanistan six weeks before the withdrawal, four weeks before the collapse of Kabul,
Starting point is 00:14:27 the conversation went, hey, talking to the president of Afghanistan, paint an overly rosy picture of what's happening on the battlefield, essentially lie to the world to make it seem like the Taliban isn't as strong as they are, or you don't get the military assistance. It's essentially the same thing except for the media just flies cover for him the whole time. I can make it very, very simple. I love asking this question, and I'm going to ask it now of all of you. Do you think that if Dave Rubin, after he got suspended on Twitter, that Twitter was scared he would show up to Twitter HQ
Starting point is 00:15:02 with a mob of classical liberals with pitchforks and torches and bricks start violently attacking people do you think jack dorsey was like guys we suspended dave rubin it's going to get violent here we have to we have to unban him you shouldn't have done this no absolutely not do you think jack dorsey had that conversation when they talked about banning antifa yes when they say okay we've got these people advocating for violence on our platform, what do we do? If we start banning them,
Starting point is 00:15:28 they're going to come after us. They're going to show up at the headquarters. They're going to smash things. The cops will be powerless. So here's what happens. When you have these people showing up throwing eggs
Starting point is 00:15:38 at Larry Elder, you have these politicians getting attacked. When the right holds a rally in the Pacific Northwest, Antifa shows up and starts attacking people and shooting at them. And now I'll tell you this. It's definitely escalated to the point where I would consider a lot of it to be mutual
Starting point is 00:15:53 combat in the Pacific Northwest. But if people say, I'm going to have a free speech rally, it's permitted, leave us alone, and you show up, you start the fight. The right doesn't have any kind of threat factor. They shouldn't. The left shouldn't either. But so long as cops are unwilling to do anything about it, people are going to continually fear what the left does.
Starting point is 00:16:11 We were talking about this the other day that, you know, why is it these institutions like the New York Times or whatever ultimately become woke? Well, it's because the regular people there are too scared to say anything because the leftists are just terrifying and fringe lunatics. And there's very few of them, but everyone's scared of them. And that's it. So long as people are scared and unwilling. So my respect to Larry Elder, calmly walking and saying and ignoring them.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Well, can I posit a theory on that? Sure. I think the left likes chaos and the right, even if they can't, even if they don't know how to say it, they like order. I mean, look at right-wing cities, small towns. You're not having an Antifa problem. Look where the left governs. It's a mess.
Starting point is 00:16:53 It's always a mess. And why does the left like disorder like that? Because the more disorder there is, the more power that they can take to themselves and say, hey, we're doing this, even if they're not doing that. And they may even want that disorder. Maybe that's what happened last year. They knew that they could grow their power if they let all of this insanity run through. Look, I'll say this. I'll say this about what you were saying. It's not like this is some crazy theory right like the left has if you would have told me that the modern day democrat party uh four years ago would be advocating for
Starting point is 00:17:33 a position of defunding the police wholesale right and and just just anti-police rhetoric they walked that one back quick they did but it has consequences and you're seeing as you as you mentioned like crime in almost every major american city, Philadelphia, in my case in Pennsylvania. They also told the police to stand down so they could have more chaos. I agree with you. I agree with you. I'm just saying that their anti-cop rhetoric coupled with defund the police, coupled with mixed signals from leadership, creates chaos in their cities, right? Primarily Democrat power centers.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And you see that empirically as well with rise in murder, rise in crimes, things like that. We got to go back to what you were saying about Burisma, though, because I want to do – I want to elaborate and correct a little bit. So you had mentioned that Joe Biden, he goes to the prosecutor and says, shut down the investigation into the corruption of my son. Otherwise, you're not getting the billion dollars. More specifically, it was that Joe Biden's son, for some reason, was appointed to a board member of a Ukrainian energy company. And a lot of people wonder why that was the case.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Now, Joe, Hunter Biden's like, look, I was an executive and I have experience and I'm a lawyer. And it's like, sure, OK, fine, say whatever you want. But the media started saying there was no corruption investigation into Burisma. It wasn't into Hunter Biden. It was into the company. And Mykolas Lachevsky, the guy who founded the company, that was a lie. Matt Taibbi did excellent reporting on this, breaking down how there was at least a dozen investigations. And I'll tell you the kicker. It's been a while since I covered all this stuff because I was talking about how I had to go to foreign media to find this stuff out. The media control of the narrative is so pronounced that they wouldn't actually do the basic investigation into what Joe Biden did and what Joe Biden did was criminal and corrupt based on what I've researched.
Starting point is 00:19:19 To put it simply, Joe Biden comes in, goes to the head of, you know, the president of Ukraine and says, either you fire the prosecutor or you're not getting the billion dollar loan. He brags about it on video. So they do. Now, the prosecutor, Victor Shokin, says he was investigating corruption. Matt Taibbi confirms there was an investigation. But I'll tell you, that's the funny thing is, after they get rid of the prosecutor, so Biden says, we got rid of the prosecutor because he wasn't doing the investigation. Funny story. After the prosecutor got ousted, Zolotchevsky returned to Ukraine from exile, got his money unfrozen. When Donald Trump comes in, starts poking around, dude flees to Monaco.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Tell me who is actually investigating corruption? So I'll tell you this. And this is an older story, but this is what the media does. We see it over and over again with how they frame things. Hunter Biden story. When that came out, the laptop and the leaked details, and we knew like, okay, this, this is legit. It's confirmed. What happened? Big tech came in and shut the whole thing down. Absolutely. Absolutely. Then that's my whole point. So, you know, leading people ask about the 2020 election and was it fair and all this other stuff and i think there are a lot of different layers to that but one of the reasons
Starting point is 00:20:30 why joe biden uh is where he is today is because of what you just said with regards to censoring stories that were negative about him and so we're seeing today, you know, his poll numbers are falling for, I think, a litany of reasons. But, you know, things are getting to a point, whether it's, you know, lackluster job growth. I mean, the miss this last month, like I think, what, 725,000 jobs expected, 225,000 added, and then inflation, which is obviously, we talked about this in the last, brutal. And it primarily affects the middle class and seniors on fixed incomes be, you know but also you're looking at a wholesale collapse of American foreign policy doctrine right now.
Starting point is 00:21:12 You're seeing that most notably in Afghanistan. But the things that are happening now are almost impossible to censor and they don't really fit into the media narrative. And the way that you know that the situation in Afghanistan was as bad as it was is because MSNBC and CNN were actually reporting on it. So, you know, if they're reporting on it, it was 10 times worse than what it actually way we're seeing it here. Well, come on.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Let's face it. MSNBC and the left media loves war. When was when was the first time they praised Trump? When he dropped bombs on Syria. That's when he became presidential. We talked about this before. The New York Times and MSNBC helped lie us into the war in Iraq in 2002,
Starting point is 00:21:55 2003. They have on Meet the Press, there's commercials for Boeing. Is the average person watching Meet the Press in the market for $7.37? Or is it a payoff of some sort? I want to show you guys this. We'll talk about media manipulation.
Starting point is 00:22:14 A lot of people like talking about how CNN, MSNBC, all the ratings are in the gutter. They couldn't even break a million. Their key demo viewership is like 80,000 to 100,000. Then I get people mentioning being like, oh, Tim, you get way more views. And we're sitting here like, man, our viewership in the key demo is way higher than MSNBC. But it's not about MSNBC. It's about how they're getting on social media. Let me ask you, you know, it's really interesting when we're talking about this manipulation
Starting point is 00:22:37 stuff, how it is that someone like Vosh, who is a 20, I think he's 26, he's a socialist, and he's pro-Biden. I'm like, how does that happen? How does a young edgy upstart socialist come to support the crony capitalist corrupt candidate of the establishment party? Let me show you this thing on Reddit right here. And we'll see if I can actually, you can sort of see the image. Maybe I can. Okay. I can't get the image. This is our slash political humor, political humor, they say. It's got 1.429 million readers.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I go on Reddit all the time. And when you're on Reddit, you'll typically see these memes from political humor. Now, is it sane, rational, and honest humor? No, it's manipulation. How do I know? Their image on political humor is a man. You can't really see it on the camera. Sorry, I can't show it to you guys. You can't really see it on the camera. Sorry, I can't show it to you guys. You can sort of see it.
Starting point is 00:23:26 There's a mother, a daughter, and a son, and they're all looking at an open door as a man is walking up the sidewalk to the house, like coming home from work. The family members are all holding knives as the dad is walking up, coming home from work, wiping the sweat off his brow. On the man walking in, it says Joe Biden.
Starting point is 00:23:44 On the family members holding knives, hiding, it says Joe Biden. On the family members holding knives, hiding, it says military industrial complex and mainstream media. As if to imply the mainstream media and the military industrial complex don't like Joe Biden and are waiting to surprise attack him. The narrative that you get when you go on these big tech platforms, social media platforms, is that Joe Biden is being unfairly smeared. What did we hear recently i can't remember who said it they were like the big difference between joe biden and donald trump is that biden doesn't have a main a media apparatus willing to defend him at all costs like trump did
Starting point is 00:24:13 gaslighting like who in their right mind who remembered anything about this is like yes the media loved trump they were praising him non-stop i remember b Biden being the worst candidate in 2008. Absolute, most boring. Like, what is this old piece of trash doing on stage? Why is he, who is he, first of all, and why is he up there? He's terrible, annoying. And then Obama appointed him. I'm like, what the heck?
Starting point is 00:24:39 The worst choice on the stage, and Obama stuck him in. And now this nobody is president. How quickly people, I mean, if you don't remember watching 2008 cnn debates of biden being a just a but old school war hawk on state i mean just sorry tim what were you gonna say no you're right you're right i don't want to interrupt you i'll say you're right how in 10 years how much things can change is just shocking to me but what you need to understand is the 10 year old in 2008 was not watching that debate and they voted for biden this time around i didn't i missed his 1988 plagiarism debacle i don't know where you guys do you guys vividly remember where he lifted whole parts of a uk labor leader's life and assumed it as his own is joe biden is joe
Starting point is 00:25:18 is that his actual name is he really named joe biden i don't know. I don't know. His name's Joe Bob Jr. You know that? I'm not kidding. Well, I don't know. So he took a UK labor. Joseph Robinette Biden. Yeah. Joe Bob Jr. Yeah, Joe Bob Jr. Yeah. What is, wait, how did he get that from Robinette? Actually, I don't know if Bob is short for Robinette.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Is Robinette, is Bob short for? I'm just kidding. Oh. I was like, how is it that I don't know this? So he plagiarized this guy in 1988, basically had to dip out of the presidential election, had to resign from the election process or whatever. And then what people, he stepped out of the limelight for a decade. People forgot who he was.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And then he was still a senator. He was like, I never even heard his name from between 88 and 2006. Did you guys? Yeah. Wasn't he the guy who looked at Clarence Thomas and accused him of being a rapist or something like that? That sounds right. I wasn't politically activated until 2006 either.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Joe Biden said that he was number one in his college class. No, he was like in the bottom third. I mean, he lifted, like, as I mentioned, whole sections of some UK labor leader's life. I mean, Joe Biden has been like, he has been a fantastical liar. Now he says he's against the Iraq war, but he voted for the Iraq War. I mean, he just lies almost about everything. There was something that he was lying about going to
Starting point is 00:26:31 the place in western Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah, I remember. I can't remember the name, but I remember. In Squirrel Hill. It's right in Squirrel Hill. Was it like a synagogue? Yeah, it was a synagogue in Squirrel Hill. My God. The Tree of Life. The Tree of Life.
Starting point is 00:26:45 The Tree of Life. He said he was there. He wasn't even there. So he just lies about everything. But this is the thing today. When you have, you don't need a candidate when you have the media. When they're all lining up to say whatever they need to say and suppress what needs to be suppressed.
Starting point is 00:27:00 As long as you have that, Joe Biden can call a lid, go in his basement, and go to sleep. And that's what he did. Isn't it amazing? I love the Atlantic article. Stay alive, Joe Biden. All we need is your corporeal form. They just needed a name. You know why Obama chose Biden?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Some probably told him to. Apparently what they were saying was that there was concerns that voters would be worried that the first black president wouldn't win. So they said you take an old white man and put him him as the VP and then racist Americans would vote for it. That's a lot of the rhetoric I remember hearing back in the day. So is this at all surprising though? I mean, you had what, eight years ago, somebody at Yale saying, what college was it?
Starting point is 00:27:38 They said there was a Klan meeting and it was like a white sheet covering like a projector or something like that. Oh yeah, that's right. Oh like a projector or something like that. Oh, yeah. That's right. Oh, my gosh. I forgot about that. No, no.
Starting point is 00:27:48 It was like they looked through a window. Yeah, yeah. And they saw like a sheet over something and they said there was a Klan meeting. That's right. And they were like, turns out someone just draped a sheet over a projector. I forgot about that. These people are insane. And then a reality show host gets elected president, and then a whole country allows itself to be shut down for a spicy flu, and there's still people out there who think that it's killing.
Starting point is 00:28:18 There are surveys taken all the time that are like, how many people do you think uh percentage people do you think have died in this area oh at least 20 there's there's a poll that came out the other day that said like 10 or something i don't know so of course of course you can get a corpse elected 10 of democrats believe that like something like or wait no no 35 of democrats believe that 10 like that that 10 of people die with with covid So this is what happens when you have people who blindly believe whatever the media tells them. And I'm wondering what happened because I know people who didn't used to, they used to have critical thinking abilities. You know, friends of mine, gone.
Starting point is 00:28:59 All of a sudden, it's like they turn on CNN and they're like, Joe Rogan ate livestock medicine. They go, wow. Why would he do that? What an idiot. Critical thinking in today's day and age is something that is going by the wayside pretty fast. Liberalism was all about back in the day in the wake of the Vietnam War. If the government told you to eat white bread, you were eating wheat bread.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It didn't matter. Liberalism was about tolerance. It was about free thinking. It was about free thinking. It was about critical thinking. But the modern-day left has sort of shifted from critical thinking, free tolerance, to almost a strict adherence to believing everything that the government says, even when it contradicts it from day to day before. You see this in reporters.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You see this in reporters, and I learned during my first uh congressional run where where we would be asking questions that i think perfectly legitimate questions about the election then these questions were important because it should we should all aspire to make our elections better every cycle and the only way that you do that is by asking important questions and i hope that we can all work together to make things better but what would happen is the governor would release a statement in response to us with no empirical evidence backing it up and it would just be like oh you guys are screwed up you know what you're talking about and then the media would regurgitate those very same talking points so these are conspiracy theorists so they're not even they're not like their job is to speak truth to
Starting point is 00:30:25 power yet what they do is just regurgitate talking points from the authority we have good news on this front though let's talk about what happened with joe rogan because this is where this is where they made a big mistake with joe you can't go to the biggest podcaster in the world who has more ratings than you do and accuse him of doing something he didn't do and makes no sense. So now we have the story. Joe Rogan considers suing CNN over claims he used livestock drug against COVID. They're making ish up. Rogan said, I literally got it from a doctor. Joe Rogan gets sick. He comes out and he says, hey, guys, I had COVID, you know, tested positive. The doctor prescribed monoclonal antibodies, Z-Pak, prednisone, ivermectin. And he says within a couple of days, he was feeling great.
Starting point is 00:31:09 That's a doctor's prescription. Now, I will always state the CDC says doctors shouldn't prescribe it. It is not authorized or approved by the FDA. But that's between Joe and his doctor. And I'm like, OK, if his doctor prescribed it, I'm not a doctor. You talk to your doctor. Don't talk to me. What does CNN do?
Starting point is 00:31:25 What did every outlet do? Instead of saying that a doctor prescribed it and you went to Walgreens or whatever to pick it up, they said it was livestock medicine. So I don't know if Joe's actually considering suing, but what he said was, you know, do I have to sue CNN when he brought this up? And I immediately thought I was like, you know, CNN's got to be more careful than that, right? Nope.
Starting point is 00:31:45 I want to play for you this clip. I want you to actually hear what CNN said, and hopefully this plays well. But let's play it. Okay, it's not playing at all. I think it's because, why is it? Got to unmute the tab. That's right. I got to unmute CNN.
Starting point is 00:31:57 And surprise, surprise, I have CNN muted. All right, let's try this again. Okay, it's still not making any sound. Where's my sound? Oh, it didn't work. Why didn't it work? What the heck? There you go. Okay. That's weird. All right, we're going to try this again. Okay. It's still not making any sound. Where's my sound? Oh, it didn't work. Why didn't it work? What the heck? There you go.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Okay. That's weird. All right. We're going to try this again, and we're going to play. One of the world's highest paid and most influential podcast hosts, Joe Rogan, just announced that he's tested positive for coronavirus. Rogan telling his 13 million Instagram followers that he was treated with several drugs, and he included ivermectin on the list, a drug used for livestock. The FDA and the CDC warn against using to treat COVID.
Starting point is 00:32:31 On the Chiron, while she's saying this, it says Joe Rogan says he has COVID taking livestock drug despite warnings. That's the mistake. You can use ivermectin for livestock, but livestock is not a, or ivermectin is not a livestock drug. That's right. Right, right, right. But let's talk about the manipulation of the media in this regard. It's so brazen.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I think this is actually great news for everybody. For one, I think Joe Rogan should sue them and every single outlet that said this because think about how insane it would be. If you went to the doctor – and people corrected me the other day, so I'll be more careful on this one. You go to the doctor and he prescribes you ibuprofen. We're going to call that dog medicine. Now, some people pointed out dogs can't have a lot of ibuprofen. I looked at no, no, they're dogs can in very small doses, but they typically would give them aspirin in small doses. So let's just say this. They do give aspirin to dogs. Am I going to claim that Erin Burnett was seen ingesting dog medicine? That she went to a local store in New York purchasing dog medicine and then ingesting it?
Starting point is 00:33:32 In a shockingly insane move? No, that's insane. That's a lie. So Joe Rogan's a guy who goes to his doctor and his doctor's like, here's what I want you to do. And Joe says, okay, I guess. And now they're claiming he's taking livestock drug that is so overt and over the top this is going to wake people up they're going to start asking questions about this because there's no way i mean there's gonna be a lot of bad faith people
Starting point is 00:33:55 who are like it's for horses it's it's it's it's not there are horse versions of it but there's a lot of regular people who are like what well? Why would Joe... I love Joe Rogan. I watch him on Netflix. Well, I think the one thing that Rogan said in that first 14 minutes with Segura was, he explained, he said they couldn't get the vaccine
Starting point is 00:34:17 through the emergency authorization use unless there was no other treatment. When I got it, I took ivermectin. Your doctor prescribed it? No. See, I would recommend against it. I'm not going to say how I got it.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And then towards the end of it i just there was some other stuff that another one that trump had mentioned last year that got demonized and that knocked it out of my system completely and i was fine four days later but how the challenge with this stuff is there's no control when people just decide to self-medicate or whatever and i suppose the challenge is that's consent i mean that's what that's consent that's personal consent that's me doing what i want to do that's me doing what I want to do. That's me doing what I want to my body. The left complains, oh, the reason everything is so expensive in health care in this country is because it's a free market.
Starting point is 00:35:14 It's a free market, really? I can't order medication that I want. I can't say, oh, I want to treat myself with this. I should be able to put anything into this stupid thing right here that I want to. Very, very libertarian argument. It is a libertarian argument, but imagine if it was a free market. So hold on. I've got to address this.
Starting point is 00:35:34 All right. Do your thing. So what I would say is always go to your doctor. I'm not going to question someone's doctor giving a prescription. When it comes to Joe Rogan, they're highlighting the livestock, the ivermectin. And the problem with that is he also got monoclonal antibodies, which does have emergency use authorization, which completely, in my opinion, debunks the argument made by Joe and the one you just made. If the concern was really that if they authorize ivermectin, then the vaccines lose EUA, that would make no sense for Regeneron's
Starting point is 00:36:02 monoclonal antibodies. If they really thought that there was an effect, that ivermectin was effective, they could just do an EUA and retain the emergency authorization for any other treatment they've already given an EUA to as well. Plus, community has already been approved. And so I guess the argument they're saying is until it hits market as a brand, the EUAs will remain. I don't think Moderna and Johnson & Johnson will just lose their emergencies authorization because something got approved.
Starting point is 00:36:28 So that doesn't make sense. I suppose you could argue profit motive, but then you're starting to get into, you know, I don't know. It starts making more and more assumptions. It could just be that there was a meta-analysis of 14 studies showing that ivermectin was inconclusive. There's also a meta-analysis of 53 studies saying
Starting point is 00:36:46 that it was showing that it, I forgot what the word is, but long story short, that it inhibited ivermectin. So if these both- Wait, inhibited COVID? I'm sorry. Yeah, inhibited COVID. Sorry. I guess, so my conclusion ultimately is if there's insufficient data or if there's conflicting data, then perhaps the answer is simply the CDC doesn't want people recommending something they're unsure about because it might not actually do anything. There might be some people saying like, wow, it really worked for me. Yeah, well, Joe Rogan also got monoclonal antibodies. So we can't say definitively because there's no control. So when you have someone who gets sick and then says, I went and took X medication or whatever,
Starting point is 00:37:22 it's like, yeah, well, we need a control to figure out whether or not that was actually you ingesting something or if he just beat it. So ultimately, I'll just put it this way. I think people are making a huge mistake ingesting horse medicine in any amount. So that's the big story. People like I'll tell you this. The horse paste, the horse ivermectin sold out in a lot of places. That to me, I think, is absolutely insane, simply because there is human grade and there's animal grade.
Starting point is 00:37:47 We mentioned this the other day, but I can't ignore breaking down the points. Otherwise, people get mad in Super Chat. When the U.S. government is regulating something, and it sounds like you're going to be less of a big fan of a lot of the regulations, but when they're like, okay, we're going to approve something,
Starting point is 00:38:01 they'll say, hey, we can't put this much lead in it because human livers can't handle that and it'll make them really sick. So this cannot be approved in this formulation. But for a horse, they might be like, oh, horse kidneys are fantastic. We don't got to worry about that appearing in it. So what happens is animal grade stuff is very, very different. The example I give is that cats can drink salt water. Humans can't. We wouldn't simply look at a cat drinking salt water and be like, I can drink it too. So I think people are making a huge mistake. That being said, these news stories about the hospitals being over flooded and everything
Starting point is 00:38:31 are completely BS. It was a huge hoax. Ultimately, I just say, I think people can do what they want to do, I suppose. But when it comes to any medical decisions, I think it's got to come from someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Otherwise, you fall victim to manipulations, conspiracies. And if you're willing to go to Tractor Supply for stuff because you read something on the internet
Starting point is 00:38:51 and you haven't found a good doctor, even a Trump-supporting doctor, a hardcore Trump-supporting doctor who read all these news stories, like, yo, people can trick you into doing really dumb things and I think it's not a good idea to go. Yeah, but here's the thing. You can go into Mexico, in Mexico, you can walk into any pharmacy and say, give me ivermectin,
Starting point is 00:39:08 give me give me hydroxychloroquine, and you can treat yourself. If people were doing that in Mexico, which I assume they are, and they were dropping dead from this, I think we'd be hearing about that all over the media. Yeah, I think it ultimately just comes down to, well, for one, do you trust the media? Do you trust the Mexican media? And I don't think the issue is death. The CDC says the issue is potential side effects. And the bigger issue, like I mentioned, is if there's monoclonal antibodies, which the FDA says is authorized, it works. Joe Rogan took that, got better.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And there's vaccines, which they say, you know, if you look at Israel and some of these other countries, the efficacy has been dropping and other advocating for booster shots. So that becomes a big challenge. But ultimately, do we say, hey, look, we have a big chunk of studies that say it's good and a big chunk of studies saying we're not sure it's inconclusive. Do we advocate for something we're unsure about? What if what if people then say, I'll do that instead, and then it doesn't work and things get worse? I'm not advocating for it either way. I'm just saying that I did this and I did that and it wasn't from a tractor supply store and I'm here. Well, I'm talking specifically about people. Literally, you go to the local tractor supply, there's none left. And they have a big sign saying, don't eat it. And I agree, you shouldn't. I just put it this way. You can't get medical advice from us. No one here is a doctor who knows.
Starting point is 00:40:24 We're also not doing research on this stuff. That's why you've got to find out who you trust from medical professionals and talk to them. I have one thing to add to this is what makes me uncomfortable. This is a once-in-a-hundred-year pandemic. this we're still in it's in the infancy of researching COVID-19 and effective therapeutics and vaccines and you know now you're needed one two three boosters why then well we are trying to explore scientifically right in embracing the scientific method with regards to finding an effective vaccine and therapeutics why then are we censoring discourse that doesn't fit the media narrative right while we're talking about media narratives it was like you're seeing you know youtube channels or or censored of actual
Starting point is 00:41:19 doctors board certified doctors virologistsologists, they're getting censored because they're not saying the right stuff. These are doctors and it's not like they're coming at these positions from left field. These are clearly not conspiracy theories, yet they're being censored. And I think what happens when you do that is it creates a sense of unease in people and it makes people think that the information that they're getting might not be trustworthy because some points are okay to make, some are not. Now, clearly, they're – It's the advice.
Starting point is 00:41:55 That's the problem. It's when the doctors like – you know, Brett Weinstein did his podcast. The reason he got a strike was because they were advising people to take action. Oh, interesting. And that, like, when Joe Rogan went on the show, this was one of the first controversies, when he said he would advise young people not to get the vaccine. I'm like, I don't think Joe should be giving people advice on what they should do with medical treatments.
Starting point is 00:42:15 We had Candace Owens on, and she said he's entitled to his opinion. I said, that's true. He should be able to give his opinion. And so... Well, having an opinion and saying your opinion are different things. He should be able to have an opinion. Whether or not he expresses it, it's up to the terms of service of the medium. The issue was directly saying you advise people to do something. If Joe said, I don't think X should happen, I think that'd be a little bit different from
Starting point is 00:42:38 telling people. So I'll tell you this. It's funny when you see people say, I am not a financial advisor. I am not a lawyer. I am not giving legal advice. We hear that all the time. The same thing is true for medical advice. I don't like the idea of armchair medical therapy stuff because here's my issue. I don't think just because I distrust the media, I should go ahead and just trust someone else outright. And when I look at the FDA's website, and again, I don't necessarily inherently trust the government. I think there's revolving door policies. We've got people from big pharma and
Starting point is 00:43:09 they revolving door into government stuff. There's reason always be skeptical. But at the same time, when I read things in the mainstream media that are outright fabrications, and then I go to the CDC website, the CDC says something substantially more honest. I say substantially because it's ultimately down to the CDC website. The CDC says something substantially more honest. I say substantially because it's ultimately down to who you trust. But you go to the FDA or the CDC. What does the FDA say about the Pfizer vaccine community? They have a whole insert saying there's insufficient data on pregnancies.
Starting point is 00:43:40 And there's no long-term effects because it's now entering long-term trials. The FDA literally says that. They're not hiding it from you. You go to the media and they'll tell you it's not true. They'll be like, no, no, it was all done. It's like, why are you, why are you, the FDA doesn't say that. I can go to their websites. And that, that was, that was something that I think was kind of big for me when, when I was looking up the appropriate actions, what do that, what does YouTube say to do that people shouldn't, you should be not advising medical treatments. People should be going to their, their medical professionals.
Starting point is 00:44:04 A lot of people say like, oh, but Tim, all doctors are dumb. And I'm like, yo, what if you have a Trump supporting doctor? Like conservative doctors exist, right? You don't think they're dumb, I guess? Well, one way you phrased earlier is talk to someone that knows what they're talking about, i.e. a doctor. But the problem is doctors don't know everything. And sometimes they learn only a specific amount of information.
Starting point is 00:44:23 They know it really well, but they don't know. And that doesn't change the argument. It doesn't change the argument. If you go to a doctor and he's like, I have no idea what this is. Like, why are you going to him? It's like, like I always say, you don't go to a carpenter to fix your toilet. That's why you should consider going to lots of different doctors is my point, I guess. Because every doctor is going to know a different amount of information about different concepts.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I think YouTube is scared of liability. I think they're terrified of it. I think when people go out and say, I'm not a financial advisor, they're worried about liability. I mean, that's why we say it because we don't want people to be like, oh, they advised me to do something and got sick.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Like if we come out, we told people to take some kind of medical action and then they went and did and got sick and died, we'd be on the hook for millions of dollars. No, no, we don't give medical advice. I understand that YouTube's scared of liability. I think ultimately it comes down to the bottom dollar. Another example of how this functions is we're talking with Chloe Valdory. She does the theory of enchantment. It's like anti-racism
Starting point is 00:45:14 training that's opposed to wokeness and critical race theory. She was saying the reason these institutions are implementing this critical race theory stuff is not because they believe it, it's because they're scared of liability. They're worried about getting sued or whatever. So they're just like, bring the people and let them say whatever they want. I think that's a big driving force in this. Obviously, Big Pharma wants to make a lot of money. They get guaranteed no liability contracts with all the vaccines. And because of that, it sows distrust. So ultimately, I'm like this. Just because Big Pharma is getting a contract doesn't mean you should just trust the other person saying something wildly different. That's why I'm like, dude, don't let the culture war influence your medicine.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Like, obviously, do your research. But you've got to find someone who's convincing, like who's going to be like, let me show you the literature. Let me break it down for you. Let me take those partisans out of the picture and make sure i'm giving you good medical advice when you get people that abuse the literature like cnn just did with this thing saying yeah saying that that's it's what do they say exactly what's the thing the ticker the words that came up taking livestock drug despite warnings that is misinformation it's not livestock drug and they deserve to be sued i i don't want to say he should because it's not me doing it it's a big process to do it but if he sues them this is this
Starting point is 00:46:25 becomes a nexus point of whether or not this stuff is is animal feed livestock medicine isn't there isn't there a part of this i mean everything that i mean you're you're i agree with everything that you're saying but like when when president trump uh talked about the potential of high of hydroxy chloroquine or right right was that what it is hydroxychloroquine it was a z-pack yeah the combo z-pack it felt like the media just opposed it because trump said it and there was no critical thinking to go behind it like no assumption that hey this is the president of the united states like he might be privy to medical information that maybe at least in early stages that we don't have but
Starting point is 00:47:05 then after trump is not president anymore there's what studies that have come out that say hey maybe hydroxychloroquine is well that will so somewhat effective they were doing studies the whole time and there was a promising study out of france it's why trump mentioned it and here's what happened trump would read something in the news say it and then immediately the news would flip on the whole thing. So it was tech crunch. Right. Tech crunch reported that the combination, it was zinc and azithromycin and hydroxychloroquine, was promising. Promising is a long way to go before determining efficacy and truth.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So Trump was like, it looks very good. We'll see. And then immediately they were like, Trump is pushing conspiracies. That's right. That's exactly right. People are eating fish medicine and all the other nonsense. I will tell you, it looks very good. We'll see. And then immediately they were like, Trump is pushing conspiracies. That's right. That's exactly right. And people are eating fish medicine and all the other nonsense. You know, I will tell you, it is true. There have been anecdotes about people who buy the horse paste or tractor supply, eat the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And I'm like, we get people saying like, well, you're not supposed to eat the whole thing. You're not supposed to eat it. It says on it, you can't even give it to a horse intended for human consumption. I didn't know horse was like a commonly eaten thing, but it even says it. It's funny when it says, it says, do not give to horses meant for human consumption is what it says on the box. But what it means is do not feed the horses that are meant for human consumption. And it says not do not feed the horses period meant for human consumption.
Starting point is 00:48:18 You see, see how I could mix that up. Are they telling me it's meant for human? What does it say? No, don't feed it to horses that you're going to eat. If you're going to eat. Exactly, exactly, exactly. So anyway, the point is when right now Reuters has been actually a couple months ago, Reuters reported that Oxford is doing a study on ivermectin, which is promising. And so I'm just like, can we can we just chill?
Starting point is 00:48:41 You know, do we do we say like, OK, this is really great, Oxford. This is fantastic. We got a bunch of other studies. There's data coming out of other countries. Can we have a serious conversation about this? Well, the media lies. So that makes it impossible.
Starting point is 00:48:51 YouTube is paranoid and terrified of liability, liability issues. So they go nuts on it. And then my ultimate thing is like, bro, I don't think we should be giving people advice on what they should be ingesting anyway. I think their doctor should be doing that.
Starting point is 00:49:04 So if that, if that's the way to just be like, we don't give financial advice, we don't give legal advice, we don't give medical advice. All right, well, there we go. I'm not even advising people to get the vaccine because that's the same thing. And that's another big complaint I had when Casey Neistat told me on Twitter that he pulls into a parking lot, waited for 45 minutes and stuck his arm out the window to get a shot. And I was like, bro, did you talk to your doctor? And they got mad at me. I get all these leftists mad at me for saying, talk to your doctor about getting the vaccine because we don't want adverse reactions.
Starting point is 00:49:30 We don't want to hear these stories about people with anaphylaxis. There was early on nurses had anaphylactic shock from this. And then they were like, okay, maybe you shouldn't get the second dose. I'm like, well, it's a good idea for people to go to their doctor before getting medicated. But what you get now from the mainstream left, and this is what YouTube allows, YouTube will definitely allow you to give medical advice so long as you're telling people to get vaccinated without going to their doctors, which is insane. Oh, I don't know. But this is my whole point. This is the point that I was trying to make. So the liability argument is perhaps a compelling one and one that I could be swayed.
Starting point is 00:50:03 But the point that I was making to you is that some opinions are okay, right? Some are not. And that right there, like you can get banned for saying something that is counter to the media narrative. Like you said, you could go on YouTube right now and advocate for people to get vaccinated, right? Without consulting their doctor. That's okay. You don't get censored for that. But any discussion of promising medicine that is not approved, you get censored. What that does from a societal standpoint is create a divide and it sows distrust. Well, that's the more discourse, the better, right?
Starting point is 00:50:41 That is the liability. The reason, so here's the important point. In the rules, it specifically says that you can't say there's a cure, you can't advocate for treatments, and you must tell people to go and talk to them. It doesn't say you must, but it's like you can't discourage people from seeking out medical professionals or something like that. The issue is ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, Z-Pak are not authorized by the FDA for use in treating this. Because of that, you can't tell people to do it.
Starting point is 00:51:08 You know what else is a huge problem with this? Nobody trusts our institutions anymore. And they have become... Everything's political. Everything is political. fact that is a a goal of the radical left is to sort of penetrate institutions and as a way to exercise some sort of control over people and now nobody trusts institutions anymore you can run for your county treasurer and somebody's going to ask you what your opinion on abortion right that's where we're at now that's true it's true but this is the problem i is the problem I have with a lot of the debates over a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:51:48 And that's why people are like, Tim's a milquetoast fence-sitter. I'm like, dude, I'm not just going to say I trust one faction over the other because I don't trust one faction. You know what I mean? Like, trust is earned. So when it comes to any kind of scientific research, I'm like, I look at this and just say, I got to make sure I'm not getting my information from culture war sources on this one. You know? If I go to my doctor and I say, here's a story, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:52:07 And he doesn't know about it. I'll find a better doctor. If I'm like, hey, have you heard of Brett Weinstein's podcast? What do you think? And if he's like, I'm not sure. I'll be like, OK, maybe I need someone who's been following all of this debate and this news. There was a guy who was in the you guys know the Frontline Doctors Coalition or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Apparently, there's a guy who like defected. I don't know if that's the right word but he's been critical and he was speaking with this progressive on youtube how you know he's critical of the media the media lies saying a lot of the same things i'm saying and he was also adding that it seems like some of these guys who are advocating for ivermectin it's become overtly political for them where they're so angry at the media for lying about horse dewormer and livestock that now they just assume anybody who challenges the idea is pushing some kind of narrative, when in reality, there are studies that are promising, and there are studies that are saying nothing, that there was no impact,
Starting point is 00:52:55 or that it ultimately didn't help at all. And so we're investigating, trying to figure out if it works, but it's breeding zealots. It's the counter-identity, right? We talked about this again with Chloe that some people have counterdependent identities where their identity is based upon hating the other group. And that's why I'm like, look, man, you can believe that the right tends to be more honest in their media and the establishment left is lying nonstop. That's true. That doesn't mean you can just assume certain science is or isn't correct without
Starting point is 00:53:22 going through it. And it also means for someone like me, I'm like, when I had Chris Martinson here and he was like, look at the studies that say this, I Google searched the opposite and found studies that said the opposite. And I'm like, what should I blindly trust you when I can find a bunch of other studies saying something else? And then am I supposed to assume all those other studies are conspiracies? I can't do that. I literally can't. I throw my hands up go to a doctor man i have no idea that's simple were there studies when you were looking through them that you said there were a lot of positive studies that showed promising affectivity and then a lot of studies that were they didn't know were there studies that said it didn't work yes that when i say inconclusive or didn't know it's like they were literally saying we saw no change at all
Starting point is 00:54:03 interesting not no impact whatsoever. Well, to me, that breeds at least the need for new studies. If there's a bunch of studies that... Okay, that's good. Yeah, I mean, the Oxford one that came out a couple months ago. So the problem... So I will say this. This discussion is a hot topic for sure.
Starting point is 00:54:19 People are probably super chatting right now saying, Tim, you're wrong, or whatever. It's like, okay, I'm fine. I'm fine with being wrong. I'm not a doctor. I can't tell you what for. What I can tell you is, isn't this proof the media lies? Well, what's happening? Is this the administrative deep state, like these people that aren't elected, but like
Starting point is 00:54:31 the head of the CIA, the people that are appointed and that have these long careers? Are they feeding information to the media? And they're telling the media, project it like this, and then the media is, and then the politicians are on the number three. Well, wait, listen. So it starts with the administration, the deep state. No, no, I'm sorry. They feed information.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Wait, wait, let me finish this first and then disagree with me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm stopping you right now. Why? What part? You have jumped the shark.
Starting point is 00:54:54 No, I'm wondering. I'm asking. How so? Is the deep state CIA feeding information? No, the administrative state, the people that are appointed, not elected, the people that are being appointed that have these long careers that don't – they're not getting voted out basically. What does the CIA have to do with what CNN is appointed? The head of the CIA is appointed.
Starting point is 00:55:09 It's like a mockingbird argument. The head of the CIA is appointed. He's not – we don't vote for him. And so there's all these organizations with these appointees. They call it the administrative state. Are those people feeding news? That has nothing to do with anything that we're talking about. Well, where's the media getting its parroting point that they're all repeating?
Starting point is 00:55:24 It's coming from somewhere. When it comes to war, CNN, MSNBC definitely appoint former spooks and government agents to talk about why war is good and why Trump was bad. And then Trump was all of a sudden good when he bombed stuff. When Big Pharma buys advertisements and then all of a sudden people are scared to criticize them, or when YouTube is scared of liability, or when you have this dominant dogmatic tribal cult that just agrees with itself as long as an opposition to the other because they're counter dependent ideologies. That is just a very simple phenomenon we've been experiencing. So you think it's come out and just be like the government conspiracy is feeding live. I wouldn't say it is.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I'm asking, is this is this possible? Like, so you're saying it's more of an emergent thing where there's people that have money invested. The media doesn't want to lose that money. The people in the media are actually psychotic and they believe this refuse. So there's that reason. Do you think that's more likely
Starting point is 00:56:15 than that there's an organization that's kind of controlling it? Donald Trump came out and said, hey, this study out of France is promising. And the media immediately went insane screaming Trump was a Nazi and pushing conspiracies. So then you get all of these tribalists being like, well, the media said it now because they hate Trump. They've been trying to find a replacement for
Starting point is 00:56:33 Trump since Trump left Marjorie Taylor green, Lauren Boebert, Tucker Carlson. It doesn't work. Trump is Trump. Nobody else is Trump, but you have an entire group of, of, of 70 or I think it's unfair to say 70 million people, but the Democratic voter base that for some reason believes the economy is good right now when we just we have even higher record job openings number. We have 7 million people losing their benefits. We have an eviction moratorium ending. Yet when you ask Democrat voters, the economy, they say, yes, those people are insane. And they believe. And here's the issue. People talk about red pill, blue pill.
Starting point is 00:57:10 The red pill people are woken up. The people who are who are who are living in the matrix are writing the news and writing public policy. They're not just sitting back believing lies from some grand overseer who's trickling down fake news from the deep state. These people genuinely eat their own refuse and then spit it back out in the New York Times. And then other people hear it and they believe it again. The best example I think is Jack Dorsey himself used to be the free speech wing of the free speech party. Then Twitter became an algorithmic nightmare where people were
Starting point is 00:57:38 screaming at the top of their lungs because rage generates retweets. All of a sudden, within a decade, Jack Dorsey is now ultra woke, believing this insane refuse, his own system fed back to him. They have no ability to raise their head above the clouds and take a look around and see what's happening. They're stuck in a mess of their own making. Some people know it's a lie and they grift. A lot of people will read CNN and say,
Starting point is 00:58:02 wow, it's true. Joe Rogan took livestock medicine. And then they'll go on just believing it's all a fact, spreading it all to their friends, and they're adamant that they know the facts. Then they come to you and say, wow, economy's doing pretty well, isn't it? And you're like, 7.5 million people just lost their benefits. The eviction moratorium has ended. That certainly is not indicative of a good economy, is it?
Starting point is 00:58:22 10.9 million job openings. We only filled 235,000 jobs the past month when we already had record openings. And you can Google search closed comma shortage and see all the businesses, all the government institutions that are collapsing as we speak. And these people believe the economy is good. I'm sorry, we got a large faction, tens of millions of people who have lost their minds in this country who will sit here and tell you you're in the cult, you're the evil Trump cultist conspiracy theorist, simply because you Google search things instead of just believing CNN. Man, that is like, all right, that's good.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Good show, everybody. Good show, everybody. Yeah, let me pull this up. Let's get into this. How about we do this? U.S. job openings surpassed 10.9 million. The number of open jobs in America is greater than the number of unemployed people. And that's two months in a row now.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Now, last month, they filled close to a million jobs, but had 10.1 million openings. That was a record. And that meant there were more openings than people available to work. From April to July, we lost 3 million jobs per month, about just shy of 3 million, but only gained about a couple hundred thousand per month. So it was like for every three jobs lost, one job has been gained. The economy is not doing well. You look at all the shortages, all the shutdown, and there are still people in this country who are like, yay, Joe Biden, the economy is doing pretty good. And I have no idea how that's
Starting point is 00:59:50 possible. But I'll tell you this, if these people at CNN and MSNBC continue to push this stuff, they are the people who are stripping the copper out of the walls of the building we're in to go sell for scrap. They're the people who saw the Titanic hit the iceberg. Now they're stealing all the fine china and silverware and rushing to the lifeboats. They're extracting everything while the ship is sinking. It's why Rachel Maddow, she went from a daily show, now she's doing a weekly show. A lot of people have pointed out, yeah, she's jumping ship. She doesn't want to be left holding the bag, so she's reducing her workload, taking a bigger paycheck. I can't remember who told us this. it might've been Bannon, that Jon Stewart shut his show down just before
Starting point is 01:00:28 Trump came in because they all knew it was going to happen. And nobody wanted to be doing a nightly show where they're forced to lie. So they cancel it. And that's basically, I think what we're going through right now is like, you take a look at, you know, someone like Ian, who by any, any sane metric, a conservative would call a leftist, a liberal, or at the very least on the left. Yet people in media would say Ian's far right. It's because I have long hair. I think that's a reason to make you far left. People look at me and they make assumptions.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're trapped in this. So I think ultimately what this brings us to is we're watching the country collapse. It's breaking apart. Portland announces they're banning trade with Texas. California says no travel to the other states. I'm like, yo, at this point, this is one by one, the bricks falling out of the building
Starting point is 01:01:18 as the United States is crumbling down. And so long, I think the main issue is you've got people on the left who actively want that to happen the occupy wall street people for instance were like very much so wanting the u.s to collapse antifa very clearly wants the u.s to collapse the they they all basically think this country is racist 1619 project all that stuff and one by one our institutions are failing it's no surprise the people in government are incentivized to extract as much as they can as the ship is falling apart. And what's the end result, I guess? We break apart?
Starting point is 01:01:49 That's what should have happened a long time ago. I mean, how do you – you have people who are like, okay, I literally want to be able to have a baby be born and punch a hole in its head and suck its brain out. That was in Virginia. Yeah. They literally want that to happen. How am I supposed to share air with them? How am I supposed to share a polity with them? I mean, why should I be forced to?
Starting point is 01:02:18 Why don't we just break up? And the hardest part is you have states where a state like Texas, okay, you have the Dallas-Fort Worth area. Dallas is insanely left. Fort Worth is right. So how do you do that? You have to come up, we have to come up with a way that people can be able to choose the kind of governance they want. Because we're just going to be at war to the point where, oh, I don't know, people are burning cities down. I mean, I think, you know, maybe if this continues, you might see left and right wing groups fighting in the streets. Or maybe shooting at each other. Oh, wait, that happened two years ago.
Starting point is 01:03:01 That's not going to be in right wing cities, though. That's all going to be in the left. Those cities need to be abandoned. I was joking because it already happened. This past weekend and the past weekend, there's been shootouts in Portland. I personally think that there needs to be a unifying principle around which people can gather in order to have a strong country, right? And you talked, I think you were right, that how the modern day right conservatives for the last 50 years have ceded our education system,
Starting point is 01:03:32 entertainment, and the media to the left. And we're reaping the consequences of that today, right? And I think part of that is when you teach kids, you talk about this critical race theory stuff and certainly in college for a long time, it was happening in college where people or students were being taught to think this country was a horrible place, an evil place where everyone was racist. We came up, I grew up and was taught, we judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. We read Martin Luther King.
Starting point is 01:04:09 We ingested it. We believed it. But today, your child in a public school is being taught that they're either a victim or a presser based on the color of their skin. They're taught to hate the other based on the color of their skin. They're taught to hate the other based on the color of their skin. And when that happens, I mean, you start to believe in a way, especially if you're a little one, right, that your country is a fundamentally evil, horrible place. And that's why we have such unbelievable group polarization in this country, because we've had one political party
Starting point is 01:04:40 who has done nothing but divide us among age, race, demographic, young, old, rich, poor, black, white, Christian, atheist, because that's how they maintain power. I have a different view, and you and I have talked about this on the show, and we've even debated about it a little bit. Maybe it's me being naive, but I believe that what makes America exceptional is not necessarily our diversity. Now, diversity is great. Like around this table, we have an unbelievable amount of diversity. And diversity of thought is great because it challenges us to think in different ways. But what makes this country exceptional is that for 200 years, we've put aside our petty differences
Starting point is 01:05:25 or done the best that we could in order to put aside our differences and unite it around a principle of being an American. Today, we don't have that anymore. And you see little fractures in every aspect of what we do in our education system, even in sports now are political, right? You know how we solve it? Sean Parnell does not run for Senate in U.S. Senate. He runs for mayor of his hometown. He runs for mayor of his hometown.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And he and he gets people elected to the board who agree with him and say, we're not going to teach that crap here. The federal GOP is controlled opposition for the regime. We know that even Kevin, even Kevin, Kevin McCarthy, the minority leader, he and the House and the House and the regime. We know that. Even Kevin McCarthy, the minority leader, he... In the House. Yeah, in the House. He was... Oh, so, oh, I'm a total trumper until January 6th. And then he starts backing off.
Starting point is 01:06:14 And then he starts going back. Look at what DeSantis is doing in Florida. Look at what Abbott is doing in Texas. If Sean Parnell ran for governor of Pennsylvania and ran on three things, you're not teaching that crap in schools. If you don't want a mask on your child, you're not going to have a mask. And if you don't want a needle stuck in your arm,
Starting point is 01:06:33 you don't have to have a needle stuck in your arm. If you ran for governor of Pennsylvania on that, you would get elected. And you would do more for the people that you love in your home state than you would going to Washington, D.C. and getting stuck in that mess. I don't disagree with what you're saying. I do think that there are many positive ways, especially if you're getting elected and the idea that all politics is local. And we're seeing just in Pennsylvania alone an unbelievably intense focus on school boards. We've never seen anything like the intensity that's around school board elections this year.
Starting point is 01:07:10 But we're seeing that at every level. And mayor, governor, there's a gubernatorial election in Pennsylvania in 2022. And I would say 99 percent of the time I would agree with you, except for 2022. If we lose the state of Pennsylvania, which is is a republic this seat senator toomey's retiring it's an open seat so there's no incumbent there um it's been in republican control for a while um if we lose the seat and the democrats of course know that there's no pathway to the senate majority without flipping the seat in pennsylvania they have to do it if they want an actual majority then then it almost doesn't matter if there's a Republican governor in Pennsylvania because
Starting point is 01:07:47 the feds, whether it's with H.R. 1, the For the People Act or Senate Bill 1, which is basically a nationalization of our elections, the feds are taking away power from the states at a rate that has never been seen before in American history. And the critical fight for me is in the Senate to stop the radical left from packing the Supreme Court, from nuking the filibuster, to making Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico a state. It doesn't matter if there's a Republican governor in Pennsylvania. Of course it does. Of course it does. I'd rather see a Republican there than a radical leftist. But I'm saying I don't want to see states stripped of their power. And the left today will absolutely do that. They're not shy about their agenda. less political party to me and leadership is actually what really matters uh but being winning the seat in pennsylvania defending pennsylvania but also defending the country against being a hedge against just the insane radicalism of the new democratic party and not allowing them to fundamentally transform this country into something that we've never recognized before
Starting point is 01:09:02 i think you actually you know what you're saying is another reason he could win the Senate if you campaigned the same things at the state level, not, you know, the kids, your school, school boards, you know, choosing to get vaccinated or whatever. School choice is something that is unbelievably important. And so I think COVID and these insane lockdowns have shown us that something crosses, you know crosses socioeconomic strata. It's important in the inner city. It's important in the rural community, especially in Pennsylvania where broadband is a real issue. When schools closed and we went virtual, there were kids in the inner city that didn't have a laptop computer to get on the Internet or didn't have access to the Internet.
Starting point is 01:09:41 You had kids in rural communities who were climbing to the tops of their silos in the hopes that they could get on the internet and the starbucks across town because they didn't have broadband internet they had no internet whatsoever so you're right there are those very same issues like i'm vehemently opposed to vaccine mandates i will say that like as you as you mentioned if you want the vaccine consult with your doctor by all means get the vaccine but let no government mandate it um i think it's uh the government doesn't know your personal life they don't know your personal finances they don't know the struggles you go through but and this tends to be and republicans do this like you mentioned the the federal gop is just opposition controlled opposition they they
Starting point is 01:10:21 do these blanket policies that don't make sense for localities. So the one thing I think people definitely need to pay attention to is, you mentioned school boards are really important. They're so important. But I will say, too, I think you're correct. They need a better governor in Pennsylvania. Sean would be a great governor. But if Sean is going to get that Senate seat and it's going to have a big impact at the federal level, even if the federal GOP is controlled opposition, I think that's actually a good argument for why
Starting point is 01:10:48 more honest individuals should be running and displacing. This is why I think DeSantis has done more to protect his constituency than probably any politician in my lifetime. You're 100 100 you're 100 right and he's doing that at the and he's doing that at the governor level while he's being attacked well and he's just middle finger so this is this is the point that i wanted to make and i by the way you're you're right i think ron desantis has done an incredible job in florida you're right uh all my life i have have wondered why Republicans haven't fought harder. Right. I think there's a lot of reasons why I think a lot of Republicans don't want the media attention.
Starting point is 01:11:31 They want to fight the media and the Democrats, a lot of that. But what Trump taught the Republican Party and certainly this next wave of sort of Republican blue collar working, the party of the see the Republican Party as the party of the working class, individual freedom and liberty, small federal government, all the same stuff. But Trump taught this next generation of Republicans how to fight and that the cultural fight is also important and it cannot simply be discarded. Some of us have been trying to teach libertarians that too well well i i so i i do think that that that we can change the whole uh uniparty because there are times where i'm so frustrated at how the republican party operates but the only way you change it is to get involved and and be the change that that you hope to see but that that's why it's we can stop we can stop the insanity you're talking about the usa and an
Starting point is 01:12:32 empire in decline america in decline or late stage collapse i don't i don't i don't buy i don't buy that uh i think that good strong leadership can change it but in penn if we win pennsylvania we can stop the insanity of the radical left that all rests on pennsylvania i'm telling you that we can stop them from doing what they're doing to this country and that's why pennsylvania is so important and that's why that's why the radical left and people like chuck schumer were running ads against me two weeks before i was even a candidate because they know how important it is. I look at some of this news, man, and I genuinely believe I just had a video taken off of YouTube. Oh, really? Yeah. Just right now. Yeah. I just got an email. Oh, wow. Is it as hard strike or episode I dropped today violates medical misinformation policy policy There it is I feel like
Starting point is 01:13:25 It really is a battle between good and evil And I think many of these Establishment cultists think it's a battle Of good and evil too and I think they're wrong About that because they're in a cult They come on and say oh all Trump supporters Are in cults these people who are Eating horse paste they're all insane
Starting point is 01:13:41 And the stories are often fake I mean they're often fake. With the story about Oklahoma being overrun, with gunshot victims couldn't get fed. Oh, right. Totally fake story. Totally fake story. We have this story from TimCast.com about Jimmy Kimmel. Kimmel says unvaccinated Americans taking ivermectin
Starting point is 01:13:59 should be left to die if they get sick. Actually, we'll break that apart. He actually said that if someone comes in who's unvaccinated eating horse goo, rest in peace, Wheezy. And then he said, we still got a lot of Pam Dimwits out here. People are still taking this ivermectin. The poison control centers have seen the spike in calls from people taking livestock medicine to fight the coronavirus, but they won't take the vaccine. It's like you're a vegan and you're like, no, I don't want a hamburger. Give me that Alpo instead. One of the reasons these seed biscuits are opting for ivermectin is because they don't trust Big Pharma, which is fine, I guess, except for the fact that ivermectin is made by Merck,
Starting point is 01:14:32 which is the fourth largest pharmaceutical company in the world, and even Merck is telling people to cut it out. So I'm not here to get into the medical debate with Jimmy Kimmel. I'm going to talk about the overt callousness. There was another story I saw from this mainstream journalist who said, we need to stop shaming people who are doing things we don't like. And the reason was, she said, when these stories like with Jimmy Kimmel come out, when the Oklahoma story comes out, her dad turns it off and stops listening, saying it's as negative, it's lies, manipulation. I don't want to hear it anymore. So they outright don't trust the media.
Starting point is 01:15:03 They don't trust Big Pharma. I think it's a fair point to say we shouldn't trust the media they don't trust big pharma i think it's a fair point to say we shouldn't like the fact that he's like rest in peace wheezy that's insane that's like a dark thing to say about someone how about what if he said this rest in peace fatty oh what's that you had a heart attack and you're overweight too bad no we don't do that we say we're gonna try and save you we don't do this we don't do this with the flu. You know? Yeah, people have a choice to get flu shots. I understand they're different.
Starting point is 01:15:29 It is. It's different. But you don't shame people for getting sick. And it's almost like the reason why it's so dark is he's callous about it. He's almost wishing for it to happen. And that's just so wrong. I'm really angry, man. I just got to say, the media is the most destructive, vile, and disgusting entity in this country.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And I mean the corporate press. Because when they come out with this stupid BS about Oklahoma call centers and CNN says livestock, you get people so distrustful of our institutions, they literally go to Tractor Supply instead. That's your fault, Jimmy Kimmel. That's your fault, Aaron Burnett. If you people weren't so despicable, maybe people might actually say, you know what? The vaccine my doctor says is a good idea. Instead, now they're like, people messaging me saying they don't even trust their own doctors anymore. And I'm like, well, look, I understand being mad at the mainstream media and people like Jimmy Kimmel being vile, disgusting, despicable people. But yo, to then turn around and say, I'm going to distrust all institutions. This is the problem I have. I don't blame the
Starting point is 01:16:38 regular working class person. I don't blame the regular person who's confused by this. I blame these vile people like Aaron Burnett who come out and say Joe Rogan's eating livestock medication, which is an absolute lie. I'm almost swearing on this one because this is why. I'm reading this story. I'm reading this quote from Jimmy Kimmel, and I'm like, isn't it crazy that there are people willing to go to Tractor Supply instead of going to a doctor? That's your fault, CNN. That's your fault, Aaron Burnett. That's your fault, Jimmy Kimmel.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Is Jimmy Kimmel, is that monologue? Is that on YouTube right now? Oh, probably. your fault cnn that's your fault aaron burnett that's your fault jimmy kimmel is is jimmy kimmel is that monologue uh is that on youtube right now oh probably because this is the point that i was making about so jimmy kimmel can go on to youtube and advocate for violence and death against a certain group of people and that's fine and this is what breeds the distrust and the contempt and the anger? What about on Twitter? You have people saying, oh, if people aren't vaccinated and they get the coronavirus, they shouldn't be
Starting point is 01:17:33 hospitalized. So what they're basically saying is that people who decide that they're going to ignore what the professionals say and go out and maybe contract the virus shouldn't get medical advice.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Wow, I wonder if somebody would have said that in the 80s during the HIV. It's just a horrible thing to do or say about anybody. During the AIDS thing. It's just a horrible thing to do or say about anybody. You want to be for universal healthcare and think healthcare is a human right? Tell Jimmy Kimmel to go shove it.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Because if you're one of these Bernie Sanders supporting progressive socialists and you think healthcare is a human right, then it doesn't matter if you're overweight, then it doesn't matter if you're, I don't know, you eat Legos. Are we going to, if some guy sticks a fork in an outlet, don't do that. Are we going to be like, no,
Starting point is 01:18:22 it's his fault. He chose to do it. We're going to be like, this man needs help. Save him. These people are evil. They're evil. They're the ones who go on TV and mock. Here's my favorite example. Donald Trump ordering a well-done steak with ketchup.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Brilliant move. Trump's a smart guy. Legend. You remember this? Straight legend. Yes, yes. Do you remember this? When Donald Trump ordered a well-done steak with ketchup?
Starting point is 01:18:44 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know why that was a master a master a master stroke a genius maneuver it's 4d chess baby because the media came out and made fun of him for doing it they made fun of him for having this fancy steak well done with ketchup haha what a moron and then regular people who aren't wealthy who can't afford filet mignon said, I get my steaks from the local supermarket, from the Savon or whatever, and I put ketchup on it. Trump was more relatable. One of the greatest gifts that he gave this country, and I think so many of his policies were just so good for the country, but the fact that he did expose the media for who they really were.
Starting point is 01:19:25 I mean, there was always sort of like a veneer, like of maybe, maybe not. Well, there's a liberal bias, but Trump exposed them for just exactly who they are. And they've never quite recovered. They've never recovered at all. The media has almost no credibility anymore. You were mentioning politicians getting bullied by the press.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I mentioned Fauci. Fauci is talking on some show. I can't remember. It was Samantha Guthrie or something. And he was asked about, well, if one mask works, why not two masks? And he says, yeah, it's just common sense to wear two masks. And then he comes out later on TV and says, no, there's no guidance saying to wear two masks. Then the CDC later comes out and says no there's no guidance saying to wear two masks then the cdc
Starting point is 01:20:05 later comes out and says wear two masks because it is true also that there are people in government who are pressured by the media i don't think there's a grand conspiracy i certainly think there's interests in government and corporations that have influence and affect things what i think is happening is we are a country of i'll be careful we have a lot we are a country of a large number of cowards absolute cowards and so that means when the crackpots say stupid things regular people say leave me alone i don't want to get involved we talk about institutions not being trusted in this so did you see the story that broke today? The CDC tightened masking guidelines after threats from teachers' union. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:48 This is why. Everything is political. The radical left has penetrated institutions to the point where average people don't trust our institutions anymore. And for good reason, right? And so I think Trump exposed a lot of of that and i think ultimately that it makes our country in in the long haul i think it makes our country a better a better place because the hope is is that people will start thinking critically again but we need to start mitigating the fact that the left is in charge i mean and i really honestly believe the only way that you can do that
Starting point is 01:21:25 is to, without bringing secession into it, how about local politics? I mean, really make local politics more important. Like, so gun laws. I don't think there should be any gun laws. I think the Second Amendment is, you know, and I agreed, yeah. I catch crap for this
Starting point is 01:21:43 because I don't know about constitutional gun laws, according to somebody. And but so what did Texas just do? Texas just said that if a suppressor is made in Texas, you can go in and you can buy it without your $200 NFA tax stamp. The reason they can do that is because they tell the Texas Rangers, they tell local police that if the ATF comes in, don't coordinate with them. Don't give them any cooperation. That's what small towns should be doing. Small towns should be like... The ATF then doesn't know who has it.
Starting point is 01:22:20 And then there's the fact that my friend Michael Bolden from the Tenth Amendment Center looked and said, like, in 2014, the DEA did not have the budget to bust every dispensary in Los Angeles County once. So they don't have the kind of budget that we think that they have. So I think local politics is just really the way forward. And I think that's what's going to mitigate all this left craziness. I mean, if you're in a right town, if you're in a town that leans right, talk to your neighbor about it. Moving to a smaller town, I got to talk to neighbors like the second day I was there. And that was better than anything I had done in Atlanta in 15 years.
Starting point is 01:23:06 And you should be organizing and you should be talking to people about how – talking to the police. I mean, the problem with the police – I mean, I think there's a big problem with the police in this country. They just have too much to do. There's just too many things for them to do. I mean, they should be investigating crimes. I think the numbers are that they show up to stop a crime less than 5% of the time. So they're basically investigators. So make them investigators.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Make them the best investigators possible. I think you're so right about the local politics. And it's something that the left has understood for a long time now. And they will actually recruit county commissioner candidates and move them to states where they think that they can win. And you have people like very, very wealthy leftists. And they rolled out their digital fundraising platform and act blue before far before conservatives had our own response. And when read, there's essentially the exact same same platform except for there's an algorithm basis sort of like the netflix of giving if you like this guy you might like this guy and as you get more donors you have a bigger
Starting point is 01:24:14 rolodex you can raise more money and raise it faster with the left has a big head start on republicans in that in that regard um but the left has understood has understood for a very long time that you've got to organize all the time you can't stop you can't just organize for an election and then everybody goes home and this is something that i i've been working really hard at in pennsylvania is is telling people that hey we have to organize all this because the number one thing that i get on campaign is what what, what can I do? I'm just one person. I'm like, well, that's enough.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Get out there. Bring people together and organize and advocate for the things that you believe in. Get behind candidates. It might not even be me. But get behind candidates that you believe in. Help them make phone calls. Help them knock doors.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Talk to your neighbors. Talk to the police. Get involved at the local level. Organize 24-7 because that's what the left does and that that's that's that's the pathway to victory that's how we save this country there's a dude in new york he put up a video where he's going around with these flyers say we do not discriminate on race creed uh you know um vaccine or unvaccinated we welcome all and he says a bunch of stores agreed to put the signs up and so he just went out and now all these businesses are saying like like, we're not going to adhere to this mandate.
Starting point is 01:25:27 One person. One guy. Amazing. I'm like, people in New York should be doing this. Yeah. Yeah. That was great. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:33 People in New York should be. I didn't hear this. That's cool. Yep. Yep. So I tweeted him out and I included his handle. I don't have it pulled up otherwise. But you can go to my Twitter at TimCast and then you can see the video he made.
Starting point is 01:25:44 And he's just some dude. He doesn't have a big big account he's not some prominent activist he like made the video he put it up on tiktok and twitter someone tweeted it i saw it i retweeted it i told people in new york get active if you have a problem with what's going on you can't just sit back and ignore it that's exactly right that's exactly right and that's what we've been working on in pennsylvania and i think it's working i think i really do think that 2022 i mean first of all we've got to win in 2021 i mean you talked about like there's not going to be like if you know the left doesn't fear the an antifa type response from the right and i think by and large i think that's a good thing like the right is like we're law and order we believe in that and and I think that's a good thing. Like the right is like we're, we're law and order.
Starting point is 01:26:25 We believe in that. And, and I think that's a good thing. But you see it like we have our judicial races in, in Pennsylvania. We elect judges in Pennsylvania for some reason that I'm not sure quite how I feel about that. I don't like that because there's really no state contribution limit.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Right. So you can have like one super rich billionaire and be like, well, here's a million bucks. Go win your judge race. Now, all of a sudden, as if you're a leftist you you like almost all leftist judges uh legislate from the bench they don't follow the constitution they just legislate from the bench and so well anyway we have we have we have we got to win these we got to win in 2021 but i think we're going to i think we're going to because we you know in 2021 we won the ballot
Starting point is 01:27:03 referendums in pennsylvania that that that curb Governor Wolf's unilateral authority to declare emergencies because he just like kept extending covid emergencies like in perpetuity. Well, we won that as Republicans by one hundred and thirty nine thousand votes. So I think that people are waking up to this. I really do. And I'm saying all this to say it's not just a feeling. I see it empirically as well. And I think going into 2022 with Biden is just he just destroys everything he touches. I think people people see it in California will be interesting whether Newsom gets recalled because, you know, 538 saying that he's favored.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Now a bunch of polls come out saying, oh, it's over for the recall effort. He won. We'll see. There was – there's one dude, Colin Moriarty, posted a photo he got in Virginia of a California recall ballot. In Virginia. What? How do you accidentally mail outside of your state for your own state's gubernatorial election? Whatever. Cross-election. But I think – we'll see because I think a lot of Democrats don't like him.
Starting point is 01:28:04 There's a lot of Democrats in California probably like enough with this corruption. They're business owners. They're business owners, and they watch their business collapse because of ridiculous government mandates. I mean, I think that – what? California, have they even lifted their lockdown yet? Did they ever officially lift their lockdown? Remember that video of that woman who had a restaurant? And she said –
Starting point is 01:28:23 Outside, right? I'm not allowed to have an outdoor seating area, but right next to it is the craft service for a movie production. They're allowed to do this. Yes, it's insane. The rich get richer. The government in the last year made people close their businesses, stay home. They actually made their loved ones die alone. And people listened.
Starting point is 01:28:44 This is a huge problem. this is a this is a real if you bring that up people don't care leftists don't care let's face it i mean the left is the one who has bought into this covid religion and they don't care if you bring that up then you're just well it's like they were going to die anyway i mean and we have another problem in this country with warehousing our old, you know, warehousing our grandparents instead of having three-generation households like my family does in Puerto Rico. It says a lot. It's actually a really interesting point.
Starting point is 01:29:16 I do think that the breakdown of the family unit in this country and even neighborhoods. Like when I grew up, we had a neighborhood. We would talk to our neighbors. We'd go out and play in the cul-de-sac with friends. And I just feel like that doesn't exist anymore. People are more insular. Insulated. Then the restrictions and the lockdowns are a good thing, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:29:40 What are we seeing more of? The great resignation. The job openings are not due to people necessarily getting free money. A lot of people have decided with unemployment, they're like, why would I look for work? So I think we'll see some, we're going to see a lot of jobs get filled now that the unemployment benefits are over. But a lot of people have been resigning. I think 11 million in three months from April to July, or from April to June.
Starting point is 01:30:03 And why is that? Because they don't want to do these jobs anymore. They've been given a taste of remote work. What does that mean? When you work remote, you see your kids. You wake up, you see your kids, you see them off to school, you pick them up, you bring them home, you hang out with them. I think a lot of people realize they like doing that. So now you're hearing a lot of stories about people saying, I don't want to go back to the office. If they don't let me work remote, I'll quit. And so businesses that can have remote are now are now are doing this. Take a look what's happening in schools. Parents are getting fed up with schools. Well, if you work remote, you don't need a babysitter and you don't need your kid to be in the school. You can do a pod
Starting point is 01:30:38 where you're, you know, 10 families put all their kids together and then hire a teacher together. It's super cheap per family. And then you have one teacher teaching all these different subjects. That, I think, is going to restore a lot of family and community. And whether it's on purpose or not, I think you're going to start seeing a return to a lot of family values, parents teaching their kids.
Starting point is 01:30:58 I think there's a light at the end of the tunnel here. I agree. Gosh, I hate to even agree. If, if, if there, gosh, there, I don't, I hate to even speak about it this way because, but, but people were paying more attention because of, of the pandemic and the lockdowns are paying more attention to what their
Starting point is 01:31:15 kids are learning in school. And I think that's why you see just such intense passion around these school board races, because parents are finally like, wait a second, what the heck is this stuff? And so they're involved now. They're fired up.
Starting point is 01:31:27 I mean, every week we see some viral video of a parent at a school board meeting telling the board members what for and getting their mics cut and stuff. So that is certainly a good thing. And I do think that teachers unions now, when 9-11 happened and I joined the military, I was an elementary education major i was trying to figure out how i was going to student teach second grade it's something that like i i think i have tons of respect for teachers like you know but but the teachers unions i think most people see them today for what they are and they're putting their
Starting point is 01:32:00 bureaucratic needs of their union before the educational needs of the student and i think more people today that the whole pod concept that you talked about is kind of interesting. It's fascinating. But school choice is something that matters to people. I think people are going to want their kids to be home. Whoa. Thunderstorm. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:32:18 Anyway, we should go to Super Chats. If you haven't already, smash the like button. Go to TimCast.com. Become a member. We're going to have a members-only segment coming up, which should be live around 11 or so p.m. And like I said, smash the like button go to timcast.com become a member we're gonna have a members only segment coming up which should be live around 11 or so p.m and uh like i said smash the like button subscribe to the channel smash that like button for ian i don't hear you there it is thanks uh we got some good ones make 1984 fiction again says out of curiosity ian how do you feel about governor northam's position on abortion keep the baby comfortable in a bassinet while mom and doc decide.
Starting point is 01:32:47 I have no idea. I don't know anything about it. So he was doing a radio interview, and he said that when it comes to abortion, the baby could be delivered, placed aside, and then the mother and the doctor could go into the room and make a decision about what to do with the baby. What, like a full-term baby? Yeah, like four.
Starting point is 01:33:03 That's too much. Once brain activity starts to work, you're looking at a human so that's did you hear what what about the story i mean and well let me ask so like if if uh somebody is you know you know 35 year old dad walking down the street slips on a banana peel and hits his head and then he's in a coma and they're like we're not getting any brain activity but he's just in a coma i mean maybe he could come out of it is he not a human anymore you just pull the plug well that's up to the person if they want to pull the plug at that point but you think they should be illegally allowed to just terminate they should
Starting point is 01:33:34 if someone is irreconcilably in a coma according to modern medicine they're like there's zero hope we have no hope that they'll ever come out then yeah they don't know that what if they're like we don't know we're not getting any. I mean, it's possible he could come to and come back. I think, well, I mean, I don't know what the law is, but personally, I would wait out for hope. But I mean, if it was costing me $40,000 a day, maybe, like what's money? What's more valuable?
Starting point is 01:33:58 It's the challenge of saying that brain activity is the determinant factor in life. Yeah. In baby, in a baby formation, in a modern human, if someone's brain gets knocked out, I mean, they're gone. Basically, yeah, they're a husk. Do you see the challenge there, though? You're defining a person based on memories. But what are you other than your frontal lobe, your Tim Pool, your self, your ego?
Starting point is 01:34:21 If that's stripped from you, then what? So then the government should have tried to chop your arm off. The government? Oh, just to destroy a dead body no no no like oh if all you are is your memories and the rest of your body is as long as you're alive damage to your body is is fine right wait wait uh say that again as long as you're alive if you're defining life as a collection of memories and brain activity then why should you have any bodily government protections on any part of your body? It's still life.
Starting point is 01:34:47 It's still living. Like your muscle is a living muscle. It just doesn't have any human in it. So it would be okay for a doctor to cut your arm off? No. Totally. Why not? What kind of question is that?
Starting point is 01:35:00 Why would you ever advocate to have someone cut your arm off? People do it all the time. It's called body dysmorphic. Yeah, it's a dysmorphic behavior it's not real it's not good no it's bad well so now you're starting to set arbitrary morality on when you can and can't terminate life and what constitutes life what's i'm not sure i don't i don't agree with you that it's arbitrary i'm talking about babies brain activity and fetuses developing fetuses as different than someone falling and hitting their head.
Starting point is 01:35:31 So, like, if a baby is born and it's not functioning or learning, you think they could – so that's Northam's position, to be honest. Northam was talking about, like – well, he says he's talking about severe abnormality. A baby is born, and then they're like, hey, wait a minute. This baby's brain is not working. So they could take a fully birthed baby when the brain isn't working properly and say like a brain dead brain dead no like the baby's alive so like autistic or some some sort of like limited brain function yeah i don't think limited brain function constitutes brain dead so no that's different to me so like what if what if the what if the baby has no functioning brain capacity other than just like it's breathing?
Starting point is 01:36:07 Then it's basically – it's not – I mean – So you agree with Northam's position? Yeah. If it's like if you have a brain-dead baby coming out of the woman and you want to abort that thing, then yeah. It's not a human at that point. But it's moving around. It has no brain. It's breathing.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Well, if it's moving around, then it has brain activity. I mean it could be – That's not necessarily true. It might just be – yeah, just be yeah you're right i mean what kind of life is what what would you ever wish that on someone to experience that the issue is the assumptions made about what northam was talking about and you can take it two ways one that he was saying in any circumstance a baby could be born and the mother could decide which technically would be the case or you can be more generous and say he was referring to severe abnormality in which case even in his position sounds like you would agree that i believe there are no circumstances in which
Starting point is 01:36:52 a baby born that is alive should be executed with with no brain like with a complete brain just like yeah because i have i have friends friends who have siblings who are like severely autistic to the point of like inability to live and they love them and they're happy that they're part of their families. And it's like – That's babies. Absolutely. So that's like – But brain dead, that's another situation.
Starting point is 01:37:18 When a body just lays there with a pipe down its throat and on a breathing apparatus from age – that's like brain-dead child. But you're saying a collection of your memories in your frontal lobe. There could be no higher function and the body could still be breathing and functioning. And I have friends who have family members who they have feeding tubes. And don't you dare. I dare you go to them and say they should have executed that baby at birth.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Well, I would never say should. I'm saying you should have the right to do that. I'm not saying that you should. And you'll get punched in the face. They should have the right. But there are certainly families that agree with you and like, I wish this child was never born. It's a burden on my life. You know, it's not up to me to decide for someone else about what to do with their child or their loved one if something happens to the brain.
Starting point is 01:37:59 But I think that if a brain-dead animal lays before you you that maybe we should consider having the right to destroy that animal for the betterment of society humans and animals are different well humans are animals but i think this was a good conversation so far this is a good super chat because it allows us to to talk about the deeper uh questions over like what do you guys think about it well i mean i'm pro-life yeah i'm pro-life i'm pro-life. Yeah, I'm pro-life. I'm pro-life. And when people start talking about what decisions should be made, I think about the fact that Iceland doesn't have a Down syndrome problem. Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Like they don't have a lot of Down syndrome children with Down syndrome? Yeah, because they kill them in utero. Oh, my God. Yeah, and you know, I think I mentioned it's the worst part about it. And the government forces them to do it. Yeah, and the worst. Forces. Yeah. It's absolutely, I think I mentioned this. And the government forces them to do it. Yeah. Forces. Yeah. It's absolutely.
Starting point is 01:38:47 It's government mandated. It's horrific. Yeah. The worst part about it is that one in five babies who are diagnosed with Down syndrome are not diagnosed correctly, which means that one in five babies who are aborted in Iceland could be perfectly fine. And so therein lies the problem. You don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:02 Let's say there's a baby in the womb and they're like, well, we're not detecting brain activity. And then you're like, all right, terminate. And they were wrong. It's the same argument of the death penalty. Yeah. Whatever the percentage is that someone could be innocent, I can't. I believe it is better that 100 guilty persons escape than, quote, Ben Franklin. I agree with that.
Starting point is 01:39:21 But misdiagnosing autism is different than misdiagnosing brain dead. So I don't know if that's – do people misdiagnose brain dead? The doctors make mistakes all the time, right? Yeah. And that's not to say don't trust your doctor. I'm saying, well, that's what they'd be racers and doctors have – Don't rush to a decision like that. I just thought this was a good question because it's not so simple for a lot of people to just –
Starting point is 01:39:43 like a lot of people take a simplistic view of it. Like, why would you ever terminate a baby? And I'm like, I'm sure there's somebody who's looking at a baby with such severe deformities that might only live for a month. And that's a really difficult question then, right? But I think the challenge is if a woman gives birth to a baby and you start creating exceptions, exemptions for when you're allowed to literally end the life of a born baby that's alive, it's like, yo, you're dancing on a slippery slope right now. And I don't want to start talking about where that goes.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Because I'll tell you, Safe, Legal, and Rare, 15 years ago, turned into Celebrate Your Abortion with that comedian on Netflix. Shout Your Abortion. Yeah, Shout Your Abortion. Let's read some more, though. Clarence Games says, Sean Parnell, are you going to run for federal senate of PA since Pat Toomey isn't running? Yes, I'm running for it now.
Starting point is 01:40:25 Yes, and I need your help. Endorsed by Trump. Oh, my gosh. How do we not talk about this? Yeah, just recently endorsed by Trump. It was amazing. But, yeah, we're going to win. We're going to win the primary, and we're going to win the general for sure.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Tyler 223 says, Metallica shirt. He has my vote. Oh, yeah. You know, Metallica is underrated, and I sort of grew up listening to Metallica. Underrated? Black album? I like Injustice for All. I like stuff pre-Black
Starting point is 01:40:54 album. Yeah, Ride the Lightning is incredible. It is amazing, but Master of Puppets is amazing too, but I, of course, like the Black album. But then there was that weird fuel phase where they cut their hair and got earrings and stuff. But I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that they were delightful then too. I got to ask. They were great.
Starting point is 01:41:09 You're running for office and you're not wearing a suit. You're wearing a Metallica t-shirt. I have to wonder if there's some highly paid consultants like, Sean, listen, when you go on the show, you want to relate to working class people. Wear a Metallica shirt. You know I don't fit the mold of a typical politician
Starting point is 01:41:25 i just don't um and you know there are people out there that are critical of me for what i wear um but you know what i um i am who i am and that's just it and uh i dress appropriately when i spoke at the convention i wore a suit when i'm when i'm in when i'm yeah yeah wear suits when i need to, but – Have you ever seen the movie The – Let me just say this. When do you ever see a politician in campaign season? Do they wear a business suit in the commercials that they run?
Starting point is 01:41:54 Not usually. Not usually. Why? Don't they wear like polos and khakis? Yeah, well, yeah. I don't do that either, but my point is that there's a reason why when they're running ads in their district, they're not wearing a three-piece suit.'s because it's not have you ever seen the adjustment bureau i think it's called the movie just oh yeah that's a good one yeah so it's
Starting point is 01:42:12 basically in the beginning he's running for congress i guess and then he just has this moment of clarity where he's like this tie was picked for me by a consultant these shoes are the perfect amount of scuffed we don't want to look like slobs, but we don't want to offend the working class. And then everyone loves it and then he ends up running again. But the movie's about... You ask my consultants about working with me as a kid. I kind of just sort of... do my thing. They're like, wear a
Starting point is 01:42:36 Nickelback shirt. And you're like, that's wrong. That's bad advice. Let's read some more. I can't. That's a bridge too far. But you'll get the Nickelback vote. What, the Canadian vote? In Pennsylvania, maybe, with mail-in ballots. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:52 I don't know. Gone False says, Larry the Chad Elder for Gov. That's right. Michael Fernando says, great work, Timcast crew. Important topics and interesting guests. Did y'all see Ron Paul's video about the great unraveling? Not feeling very good about the future of the US and the world. Freedom must win. I haven't. I will check it out.
Starting point is 01:43:10 That's interesting. Little Bear says, Tim Pool, I don't give legal advice. Also Tim Pool, Joe Rogan should sue CNN. New Zealand... I'll answer that. New Zealand, we're banning knives. Evan, DMT, the Fed, like and share.
Starting point is 01:43:26 What I mean by specifically advice is like specific tactics. So when someone comes on the show and they're like, look, I'm not a lawyer. I'm not giving legal advice. But if you look at the law in this section and file on this and this, they're not saying like, man, sue them. Sue them. Like that's a very, very blunt thing. Like I'll, sue them. Like that's a very, very blunt thing. Like I'll say, sue them. I'll say, go to a doctor and figure out what you need to help yourself and go to a financial advisor. Saying sue them is more on par with like,
Starting point is 01:43:55 go to a lawyer and challenge them. I'm not saying that Joe should specifically use certain legal tactics or that I am giving him advice on how he should file his paperwork and what he should claim. That's a little different. But admittedly, legal, financial, medical device are all very different things, and there's probably different thresholds. But that being said. All right. Let's see what we got here. A lot of people saying Larry the Chad Elder. Appreciate the super chats. Nemo Sundry says, I work in the youth and housing nonprofit programs. An entire dependence victimhood culture is consuming the industry i've been targeted and ostracized by social justice
Starting point is 01:44:30 going public exposing the crisis real empowerment equals self-determination theory interesting all right marlino tk says i think roan should sue to help validate some potential uses of the so-called horse dewormer. Maybe it would provoke more trials and research. I think Larry should sue. Larry. I think Joe Rogan should sue because they lied about him. As to whether or not he has a case, I don't know. I can't advise him on that.
Starting point is 01:45:01 I think you just sue to punish a journalist. Yeah. Yeah. to advise him on that i think you just sue to punish a journalist yeah yeah i think you just take every chance you can to take a scalp with these people yeah i mean joe certainly has the resources to do a legal carpet bomb there's no accountability for the false stuff that they push ever they can push these false stories they don't get banned they hurt people in some cases and the news cycle changes and no one's ever held accountable so if you want media to change you have to go at them when they commit grievous wrongs cal miller says sean did trump give you his secret to looking younger now oh usually people age 20 years after being the president this is this is i i think we need to address this right so the picture that i
Starting point is 01:45:50 took with president trump has generated some controversy on the internet i've gotten oh that's a body double or that's not really trump or the president had plastic surgery. Look, I don't know. Instagram filters. Maybe there was a little face tuning going on. I don't know. Maybe. No. No, it was a good. Yeah. So my people were saying it's a good pick. But anyway, I met President Trump
Starting point is 01:46:17 and this was a few weeks ago and I thought he looks so good. He looks like he lost 50 pounds. He looks in the best shape of his life and and that is we're making this news here that is a a real picture of president trump he looks fantastic he looks like he's in really good shape but is it is he doing that so that he can be healthy for 2024? I'm a betting man.
Starting point is 01:46:48 If I'm a betting man, he's running in 2024. This is unofficial. I don't know. President Trump never told me anything. But he is very, very fired up about he's got so many awesome things working and he's planning. And he's laser focused on taking back the house and the Senate. And we just got his endorsement the other day. And that is a, it's a game changer because even in the state of Pennsylvania, and there
Starting point is 01:47:14 are a lot of people say, oh, you gotta, you gotta, you know, Pennsylvania is a tough spot. President Trump was the most popular Republican president in the history of Pennsylvania. That's just by the numbers. And so, uh, yeah, he still has an unbelievable amount of support there. But yes, the real picture. It was a real picture. Chance Jones with a question for Sean. What's your opinion on Afghanistan?
Starting point is 01:47:34 And if you get elected in the Senate, will you actually do anything or what tells do anything or what? Tell us what your goals are. Well, how much time do you have on Afghanistan? I think Afghanistan is a wholly preventable tragedy. I support after 20 years of war there. I support drawing down in Afghanistan. I mean, I'm 40.
Starting point is 01:47:55 I turned 40 in July. We've been at war in that country for half of half of my life. It was time to come. I was wounded there, lost a lot of my friends in that country, probably over 40 people that were very close friends of mine that I've lost in that country. And so my number one promise to the people of Pennsylvania is that I am not a – I hate war. I've seen it up close and personal, and I hate it. I think that America's sons and daughters are our most precious natural resource. And by God, if we're going to send them into the fight, and sometimes that is necessary because freedom is worth fighting for and worth dying for and sometimes
Starting point is 01:48:29 our country is is threatened but by god they're sure there's her sec better be a clear-cut mission and clear-cut end state because what happened in afghanistan uh you know 20 years of blood and treasure sacrificed in that country only to have joe Joe Biden throw it all away in eight months with just a botched withdrawal plan. Didn't have to be this way. Boomchuck says, Tim, you spent the last few years telling everyone not to confront the left or to resort to the left's violent tactics. Don't call us cowards now. That is an absolute false statement of fact i've consistently said stand up speak up and uh and challenge all of this stuff but i've specifically said violence doesn't work because it'll just be used against you because well for
Starting point is 01:49:14 one you're fighting uphill peaceful persuasive resourceful gaining control of institutions getting the right jobs how many people on the right are applying at the new york times get a job at the new york times there you go. Go apply. Go apply for a job there. Go apply to seriously, everybody right now. Pick your media company. Gawker just restarted. Everybody apply. You live in New York and you're not woke. Well, apply for the job. Don't come out and start screaming MAGA 2024 when they're hiring you. But you get these jobs. You understand the place you work and you roll with the punches and then slowly start, you understand the place you work, and you roll with the punches and then slowly start, you know, being friends with people and influencing people. And there
Starting point is 01:49:51 you go. Gain the edge like they gained in the institutions. Do the same thing back. All right, let's grab some of these. Oh, what's this? All right, let's see where we're at. We'll try and find a good one. Sean Bachman says Texas abortion law. Would it be possible to bipartisan pro-life legislation through that bans the death penalty and abortion? Oh, great question. Is it possible? Yeah, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:50:21 The left would never go for that. The left is so radically pro-abortion today that they refuse to vote for the Born Alive Act that would protect babies that were born alive. Do they even care about the death penalty anymore? Right, right, right. Is that even an issue? I don't know. There's an interesting paradox with the left. They claim the death penalty is wrong, but they're in favor of abortion, and they can't define when life begins. It's always different.
Starting point is 01:50:53 You ask any – most people on the left will give you various answers. They can't define when life begins. I think, like, Ian, you mentioned it was brain activity. Yeah, something like that. First trimester-ish. But I think that literally makes no sense. Life begins at conception. Human life is when the brain.
Starting point is 01:51:10 I think that it's a living husk of meat, and then eventually we become a human. And then that's my point. I don't think that that's – I don't know that the science supports that. By the way, I threw up in my mouth a little bit when it says the science supports that because I think it's just that term. Trust the science is so overused. But I think it's pretty clear that at conception, it's a human life. Well, the zygote is indistinguishable from other animal zygotes,
Starting point is 01:51:36 and only through evolution or through growth does it start to form. It's only life if you find that on Mars. Yeah. Yeah. Like if we have cells in a petri dish, it's life. If we have, and there's restrictions on like certain things you can do. And if you have like a fertilized chicken egg, for instance, it's living. I have no problem destroying life for food.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Have you seen the March for Life this year? This year, right? There were more young people there than i'd ever seen before in my life and i think the reason for that is is that the science is is on our side i think you know it's pretty clear now that it at conception is the moment where human life i'm not even like um uh hardcore about i can tell i can tell i'm not even like hardcore about abortion either way. I can tell, I can tell, and I'm not even, yeah. But I think that it's inevitably going to continue,
Starting point is 01:52:28 and if we try to make it illegal, we'll create a bunch of criminals. That's one of my big fears about legislating it. So we got Janet West says, Tim, the puzzle piece you're missing is that it's not uncommon for doctors to prescribe off-label drugs as long as FDA approved and safe.
Starting point is 01:52:42 I'm not missing that puzzle piece. I think it's actually very simple, and that's why I'm telling people to go to their doctors. The weirdest thing to me is that people are like, yes, but my doctor, you know, can prescribe things off label. I'm like, then why are you saying like, what's your concern with me saying? I don't know. I don't agree. But your doctor will make the decision that's, you know what I mean? Like if it seems like people genuinely believe doctors will only tell them a mainstream narrative when we've literally had guests on the show who have talked about how their doctors advise them to or not to get the vaccine we've had doctors on the show that have talked about mainstream
Starting point is 01:53:14 right right yeah exactly lots of them and so i'm just like i understand there's off-label prescriptions that's why when joe rogan talks about what he was prescribed i'm like hey that's between joe and his doctor don't look at me I'm not a doctor go talk to Joe's doctor if you're concerned right alright let's find let's see what we got alright let's see Stephen Marsh
Starting point is 01:53:36 says this is for Ian I think the best way to describe rights is that they come from natural instinct you have the right to self defense because it's human instinct to do so when attacked. And other example, I don't have room for. I don't agree with that. I think that's poorly put, but Ian doesn't believe in rights.
Starting point is 01:53:53 That's not true. Well, yeah, it is. What do you mean? No, I mean, I think the way we derive our rights is up for debate. You know, in the Constitution, it says that they come from God. I feel like they come from the barrel of a gun. Yeah, the only rights you have are the ones that you can defend yeah i mean then if it's a right but you can't defend it then it's a theory it's theoretical no i i think it's still a i think you probably agree more with you on this than the right exists just because someone infringes upon it doesn't mean you've lost the right it just means they've
Starting point is 01:54:23 infringed upon it but i mean like ecuador tribes in ecuador until like 1950 believed it was a right that you could just kill a tribe member and eat them right but because people have a right to self-defense there's some things that are more discernibly true than none of those right like oh it's my right to kill and eat you if that were the case then you'd have to just submit to them doing it but you have a right to defend yourself and say, nope, that's actually not your right because now I'm going to end you for trying to harm me. But rights are also cultural, though. Yeah, so I agree and disagree. I think that there are certain things that are obvious and intrinsic. I certainly think there are people on the right and the left that believe that there are rights that are intrinsic that
Starting point is 01:55:00 aren't. Like health care as a human right is not true. And there are certain things people think are rights. Well, actually, I think you have a lot of rights, a lot. I think mostly this refers to just what you can do. It's hard to define, but typically without violating a non-aggression principle. Well, there's positive rights and there's negative rights. Yeah, I think positive rights are mostly good libertarians believe in negative rights. Exactly. If you meet a libertarian and you're like, wow, this person really sucks and everything they believe and they sound like a leftist, they believe in positive rights. Right. But negative rights are where it's at. Yeah. Positive rights, I think I'm sure there's
Starting point is 01:55:41 some nuance here, but mostly make no sense at all. Like healthcare being a human right is a positive right. That makes no sense. Someone has to give it to you or provide it for you. You can't force someone to do that. But I think if you're in the middle of the woods, you can do a lot of things that no one can stop you from doing. And that means there's a lot of really awful things you could probably do to yourself. Like you mentioned putting whatever you want in your own body. I'm like, a lot of people would argue you don't have that right but you literally do you can eat a pine
Starting point is 01:56:08 cone if you want but i don't think that's bad necessarily recommend against eating a pine cone but you know some people want to eat pine cones i guess i you know and there's also pica and i think people shouldn't do that there there is there is a challenge though i mean if you saw someone eating pennies wouldn't you stop them? Would I stop them? Yeah. If I loved them, I'd stop them. It's not always so easy, I guess.
Starting point is 01:56:35 There's a lot of things we think we know are. If I did, I'd advise against it. All right. Little Tales Farm says, Tim, we just got an 8x16 tiny home slash coop delivered today and started building our version of Chicken City. Gonna film it, start to finish, and post it on our channel. Thanks for the encouragement for this. Absolutely. We just started trenching for our Chicken City. We have five
Starting point is 01:56:54 Black Star babies. So, yes, they are little poof balls. For those that aren't aware, and I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on chickens or anything, but we have a Rhode Island Red Rooster, and we have Barred Plymouth Rock Hens, two of them. Well, the rooster and the hens got together. They had a whole lot of fun. We took the eggs. We incubated 12. None of them survived except the black star. So black star is a sex link. It means that if you take the specific
Starting point is 01:57:16 rooster and hen and put them together, you get a very specific offspring where the boys have little white spots on their heads and the girls don't. So you can easily tell them apart. But the crazy thing is if you then mix the black stars together, you don't get the same – you get just a mix. It's like – it's really crazy how that works. And so there's a couple other – I guess we can do – I think we're able to do red star chickens as well by hybriding with the red rooster. So this will be a lot of fun. And then we have three goofy-looking babies that hatched that we've been filming for a while. We think it's two hens and a rooster. And then we have three goofy-looking babies that hatched that we've been filming for a while.
Starting point is 01:57:47 We think it's two hens and a rooster. And the rooster's name is officially Roberto Jr. Because Roberto is the rooster and it's his first son. And then we're trying to figure out the names. I guess it's Sally and Alex. We're naming the two hens. And the reason we chose Alex is because we think it's a hen, but we're not entirely sure. So, hey, this name is safe.
Starting point is 01:58:03 There you go. And then we're going to be building Chicken City. Now, the challenge is we have three Black Star roosters. I don't know what we're going to do with a bunch of roosters. Chicken City sounds something that would be like on The Office, like Michael Scott would come up with, like in the break room. I cannot wait to see the finished product. Yeah, we're going to have cameras all around it, live 24-7.
Starting point is 01:58:24 It's pretty awesome. The reason it's been a long time coming is because we wanted to do it with the existing coop we have, but it's ill-equipped to handle the chickens properly. And so we're rebuilding a better one so that it's easier for us to clean, easier for us to move in and out of and collect eggs and things like that, easier for us to put cameras. And the issue – you want to know why this is taking so long to get all this stuff done? No people working. Nobody's working. No joke. We're trying to find people who want to do a lot of the work, and it's hard to find workers.
Starting point is 01:59:01 I know we have a lot of emails for a lot of jobs, but I mean like legit contractors who can be like, I can hammer this out and get it done instantly. In the area, we're going as fast as we can. And it's not so easy, too. There's a lot of people also who are like, I'll come out and get it done instantly in the area we're going as fast as we can and it's not so easy too a lot of people are there's a lot of people also who are like you know i'll come out and i'll help and it's like yes but it's also like getting the materials getting supplies yeah there are periods where it's like the guys who are working are like yeah we got to wait for the wood to come in and it's just like the supply chain disruptions and labor shortages across the board ripple all the way down to us building a chicken coop. Yep. All right. Let's see what we got.
Starting point is 01:59:26 What we got. Popular Liberty says chaos gives the state more power. That's my friend, Andrew. There you go. Cool. He has some ideas for local politics that are going to blow people away. Oh, exciting. Yeah. Andrew Brazuel says, very excited to see Pete on.
Starting point is 01:59:46 Now that you've had him on, Michael Malice, Dave Smith, and Scott Horton, you only need to have on Tom Woods and Bob Murphy to complete your top-tier Austro-Libertarian
Starting point is 01:59:54 podcaster collection. Bob Murphy, huh? Collection. That's a great idea. He was just on with Jordan Peterson. He was just on with Jordan Peterson.
Starting point is 02:00:01 He's on my list, my short list. Watcher of Shadows says, I'm sorry, but the idea the U.S. should break up is stupid unless you plan to learn Mandarin. I actually agree with that. Really? What did Hirohito say? What did he say?
Starting point is 02:00:16 A gun behind every blade of grass? Yeah. I don't know that he actually said that, but it sounds cool anyway. But it makes sense if you know once you get off the coast. So I suppose the bigger issue is... Okay, so Switzerland has been sitting in the middle of Europe, a small country. I think it's 21 cantons. It's broken up.
Starting point is 02:00:38 And they've avoided war for over three, four centuries now. They avoided two world wars. Why? Why is that? The banks are located? Everyone has a gun. Everyone. All of these things are right.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Yeah. But they're not a threat to anybody. And they're mountainous. So before gunpowder, they couldn't get taken. They'd try and they had these long pikes. The United States has gone into dropping bombs in seven countries right now. I think a lot
Starting point is 02:01:10 of people look at them as a threat. Yeah, I think that's a really bad thing. But I don't think the learned Mandarin is implying that China invades the United States. It's implying that China's influence grows so substantially and controls so much of the resources of the planet. China's second largest mortgage company Ever ever grand is their bonds were just taken off the market.
Starting point is 02:01:31 What does that mean? That means that they're basically out of business. What happened? BlackRock took their... No. This is because China has done in 25 years to their economy what the Federal Reserve has been doing for 100 years in this country. Let's see, their debt was 100% of GDP in 1995. It's now 255 times, which is basically ours.
Starting point is 02:02:01 So their debt's piling up. But the problem is they don't have a central bank. They don't have a Janet Yellen, they don't have a Paul Volcker to guide them and keep them going. They're financially dying right now, to the point where I can pull up articles of people calling for cultural revolutions. And they're not calling for cultural. And if what if these cultural revolutions happen, it's not going to be pointed at us. It's going to be pointed inwards at their own people. I think that I think that China, anyone who is saying that China is this insanely insane threat as far as financial systems go, does not read David Stockman, who is Ronald Reagan's budget director,
Starting point is 02:02:46 was in the White House with Ronald Reagan's budget director, doesn't read Zero Hedge, and just isn't up to date on what their economy is doing right now. I mean, they are dying. Everybody's, oh, their GDP is so amazing. Yeah. Those cities that they build that no one lives in, that's part of their GDP. Well, I thought it was like eight or so years ago people started moving in and they've been building up. No, they still have those cities. There's a lot of them, but I'm pretty sure they started moving people in. At this point, so here by 1% of farmers. 30% of the farmers in China are still either farming by hand or plowing.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Yeah. I mean, they have a higher rate of diabetes right now than we do. Geez. Wow. I mean, this is whoever is feeding. I mean, sure, of course, they are to be worried about because they control. They're so big a part of our economy. But watch what's happening to them financially right now.
Starting point is 02:03:59 They are in tons of trouble. There's a book by a Harvard professor called Unrivaled. He wrote it in 2018. He goes through all these demographics about China and just, and this is a war hawk. And he comes to the conclusion that these are, we're not supposed to worry about these people. And this is, this is a, this isn't a realist. This isn't an anti-war guy. This is a guy who would say, okay, we need to do something. And this book, Unrivaled, just breaks it down as to why China is just in so much trouble. We'll do one more. Ed's World says, does Ian believe in God?
Starting point is 02:04:39 Doubtful. Well, I think that there is, you've got to define God. That's my lifelong goal, one of them. I think that cosmic microwave background radiation is likely interfering with matter like solids, liquids, and gases and causing what we perceive as God. So I definitely – there's something there. Like there's a – you know, there's some energy flowing. Whether or not it's intelligent, I don't know. It seems to move intelligently.
Starting point is 02:05:05 You know the way I see it is kind of like, do people believe that they are the supreme intelligence of the universe, or at least that there is life within the universe that there is nothing else above it,
Starting point is 02:05:19 or is there something above the universe? The way I see it is like, anything that exists within the universe is way i see it is like anything that exists within the universe is certainly below the the construct itself or or whatever this higher system is that which we exist in so god clearly exists in that in that sense yeah and tim a couple like last week mentioned the uh like subatomic fluctuations and like you see the spinners and all this so i i talked about
Starting point is 02:05:42 it like it's the cmbr, that cosmic microwave background radiation. But that's just like the radiation. That's just the energy. I don't know if it's just electrons or plasma or what, but it's got to be more than that. I see it like, do you think that the universe is a flat plane on which you are standing and it's meaningless and random? Or do you believe that the system in place is more powerful and above you? Or even beyond that, could there be something that exists beyond the universe as we know it? And I think even if we're looking at like M-theory and multiple dimensions and stuff,
Starting point is 02:06:12 and the answer is clearly yes, in which case humans are so far away from any kind of higher life, it's easy to say math should predict a higher form of intelligent life somewhere, somehow, even if it's something we create with computers but if that's certainly capable of existing there's certainly higher powers than human beings the problem is that people define god as like a guy in the clouds who's you know snapping his fingers to make things appear when it could be so far beyond our comprehension that we couldn't even describe yeah i gotta get away from the guy god being a guy that that really disturbs me when they say he, he gave us this, that I feel like is Catholic brainwashing,
Starting point is 02:06:47 patriarchy in action. I just think that's language and guy. Calling it a man is weird to me. Anthropomorphizing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, let's do this. We'll go over to start producing this here bonus Members Only segment, so make sure you go to TimCast.com, sign up. You can smash the like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show
Starting point is 02:07:03 with your friends. You can follow the show at TimC irl on instagram tiktok twitter whatever i don't you will put up the you know the addresses but you can follow me personally at timcast uh you want to shout anything out john oh yeah can i can i promote my book is that cool so my so my book just came out uh a couple days ago right i think this week it's called left for dead a lot of books. I know. I have five now. You've not read any of them.
Starting point is 02:07:28 Not a single one. Not a single one. Have you done the audio book? I don't read them, but someone does. But look, the book is called Left 4 Dead. What I try to do is look at where we are as a country and say, if we stay on this path, we could be here. Well, I mean, sometimes I'm proud when I get it right.
Starting point is 02:07:46 This time I'm not because we've got Americans left behind, surrounded by global jihadists in Afghanistan right now. We've got to do everything we can to get them out. But this just came out. Like if you can manage it, grab a copy. Like it would be an honor. But, yeah, this is – I'm psyched. I'm psyched about it where do
Starting point is 02:08:05 people get it oh you can get it anywhere books are sold um yeah it's at anywhere amazon whatever but but try to find it somewhere other than amazon yeah or whatever i guess whatever as much as i don't like amazon the the great thing about it is if everyone buys the book and it gets it to number one then that's free promotion on a massive platform. Look, it's a huge deal. It's very, very difficult to make the New York Times bestseller list. I've made that list before. I am a New York Times bestselling author.
Starting point is 02:08:34 But for fiction, it's really hard because you'll have John Grisham and Stephen King and all these heavyweights. Yeah, JK Rowling that will have books on there all year. And so it's hard for a guy like me to make it on that list. But also if this Senate race, right, and politics, if saving this country is so important, is important to you, then contribute to my campaign.
Starting point is 02:09:03 Because it's just my campaign is driven by small dollar donors. We had 45,000 individual donors in 2020. If I'm beholden to anybody, it's to the people. And if you want to win, if you want to save this country, we have to win Pennsylvania. So go to parnellforsenate.com and chip in if you can. How many L's in Parnell? Two?
Starting point is 02:09:24 Two. Parnellforsenate.com and chip in if you can. How many L's in Parnell? Two. Two. Parnell for Senate.com. And then, and yeah, yeah. Help me win Pennsylvania and save America because, because we have to. This is a zero sum game in 2022.
Starting point is 02:09:35 Cool. Free man be on the wall podcast. Obviously, if I'm having videos taken down off of YouTube, I'm probably doing something right. Yeah. And check out our documentary on Amazon, The Monopoly on Violence. Thanks for coming, guys.
Starting point is 02:09:52 I've been really beat up about this Afghanistan surrender. It's almost destroyed my mind. So thanks for being here with us the last week. And this last week's been really rough for me, too. So apologize if I've come off a little aggressive. But how are we going to do? I don't know. Thanks for being here anyway.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Catch you later. Love you. I started listening to Peter's documentary on the way to pick him up this afternoon. And it is a wonderful documentary. And they start way back in history, which is exactly what I want for my documentaries. I want to get the full story.
Starting point is 02:10:24 And it sounds awesome. So check out The Monopoly on Violence by Peter Quinonez. And you guys can follow me at SarahPatchLids on Twitter.com as I attempt to have more followers in SarahPatchKids. Very important. We will see you all over at TimCast.com in the member segment.
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