Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #376 - MSM FINALLY Confirms Hunter Biden Laptop Story Proving Media LIED w/Daniel Turner & Chris Karr
Episode Date: September 22, 2021Tim, Ian, and Lydia join Daniel Turner, founder of Powering The Future, and Chris Karr, editor of Timcast.com, to examine the media malfeasance surrounding the Hunter Biden laptop story, CNN's choice ...to mislead about Joe Biden's mental state, Democrat choice to try to force a conservative Supreme Court justice to retire, how safe West Virginia is after passing constitutional carry gun laws, and the economic 'cascade of failure' as evidence by thinning grocery store shelves and scarcity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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The mainstream media, Politico, finally says the Hunter Biden laptop story is confirmed.
Our reporters publishing a book where they actually corroborated emails with witnesses
that the deals between the Bidens in China and Ukraine and 10% held by H for the big guy.
Yeah, apparently it's all real.
And you know what?
It doesn't feel like news because we know.
But at least now we're finally getting acknowledgement.
And that's pretty big considering the ineptitude of the Biden administration and the chaos
that we're witnessing.
The Democratic agenda is on the verge of failing.
Republicans are threatening to hold up the budget bill.
The squad is getting the Iron Dome budgeting pulled from Israel.
Now Israel's panicking.
The border's in shambles.
Biden has been unable to deal with anything. And now the media is coming out like, oh,
that Hunter Biden stuff, it's real. I got to wonder at what point do they 25th Amendment
Joe Biden. So we've got that talk about, we've got a bunch of other stories to talk about.
A lot of weird stories. There's that whipping scandal with the horses in Texas, and it's just
not true. We've got weird stories about smugglers smuggling in KFC, I think it was, to Auckland.
Apparently it's a South Park episode.
Too much of South Park has come true, you guys.
So we're hanging out with a couple.
We've got Daniel Turner hanging out.
Thank you.
Always good to be back.
You want to introduce yourself?
Yeah, Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, Daniel Turner PTF on Twitter.
And it is always fun to be here with you fine folks.
So thanks for the invite.
Absolutely.
And we got Chris Carr hanging out.
Yes, sir.
That's right.
Thanks for having me.
Executive editor of the awesome rock star journalist at TimCast.com.
Happy to be back.
It's always a pleasure.
Absolutely.
And see you again as well, Daniel.
Good to see you.
The nicest guy in the history of mankind.
I met you last time and I was like, I feel like I made a new best friend.
I felt the same way.
That's what I went home and told my wife.
I was just like, Daniel and us, we're going to hang out.
It was a good time.
Good time.
Chris has also been making drinks.
I don't know if everyone knows yet, but he's quite a mixologist over there.
Yeah, yeah.
We got a nice little menu put together.
Yeah.
People are loving it.
Hi.
I'm Ian Crossland, by the way.
You made the Republican?
We got the Republican.
What is the Republican?
The Republican is essentially just, I think it's like a Cosmo.
It's like an elevated Cosmo, basically, but it's red.
And what's the Democrat?
The Democrat is a shot of Malort.
Room temperature.
Ew.
Yeah.
For those that don't know what Malort is, it's a Chicago novelty liqueur that apparently people in Chicago, I've never had it,
but people in Chicago always tell people not from Chicago to try it
because it's kind of a prank on them.
And the joke is
that it's grown from the grass
on the side of Interstate 55.
I'm not trying to disparage Malort.
We bought some.
We're fans.
We love it.
And we have made a drink
of a room temperature shot of Malort.
Did you spin up the independent yet?
Not yet.
Not yet.
Oh, no.
Well, what we do have is a centrist, which is, it's a martini that's like half vodka, half gin, just in case you? Not yet. Not yet. Oh, no. What we do have is a Centrist, which is
a martini that's like half vodka,
half gin, just in case you can't decide.
And we're
focusing on mocktails, healthy ones,
healthy drinks. We've got one
in the bank called the Sweetheart.
Oh, it's delicious. It's really good.
And it's made with Biotrust.
We're not promoting it, but they have this one thing that
we made it. It's like, it's lemon juice. It's this Biotrust Reds're not promoting it, but they have this one thing that we made it.
It's lemon juice.
It's this Biotrust Reds mix. It's so good.
It's like strawberry and beets, I think, are in there.
It tastes like drinking candy.
We are not promoting them right now.
We will promote them, I think, in a few days or whatever.
But we're just pointing out we made a really awesome drink.
So, yeah, we got Lydia.
I have really big news for everyone.
I realized tonight when I checked my Twitter and I checked Sour Patch Kids' Twitter that I have surpassed Sour Patch Kids and followers.
So this is my goal in life.
I've reached a peak.
I don't know what to do now.
I got nothing.
My next goal is a million, I guess, as Ian said.
Someone already super chatted us.
Malort is actually amazing.
OMG.
How dare you?
Oh, I don't know.
I haven't tried it.
They're lying.
They're lying they're lying
when you so when when you look it up on google it actually says it's a bitter astringent novelty
drink and i'm like i don't drink alcohol but that's gross that's why we have the fancy healthy
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Let's talk about the big political news that, in my opinion, let me just, let me just, we'll start over.
Here it is.
Fox News.
Politico confirmation of Hunter Biden laptop materials prompts criticism of earlier suppression of story.
Twitter blocked sharing of New York Post story on laptop last year.
So the New York Post told the truth.
Hunter Biden is a crackhead.
Correct.
He's a crackhead.
There's photos and videos of him with like women of the night.
Ill repute.
Yes.
Ill repute.
Smoking bongs.
I don't know if ill repute is fair and acceptable to our libertarian audience who think sex work is acceptable. The oldest
occupation on earth. That's why I say women of the night.
That's not offensive, is it? Ladies of the night.
I'm trying to be a libertarian, although
personally, not a fan, but
you've got to be careful because
I don't know. That one's actually tough. We should have a conversation
about that maybe when we're not doing family friendly stuff.
We could even have a prostitute on someday to give their
personal experience. A woman of the night.
Anyway, Hunter Biden is a mess, but I don't i don't care you know what i mean like it's sure
he's a guy he does a thing a lot of people have problems i'm not here to revel in a man's problems
the problem i have is it's not criticism of an earlier suppression of the story it's criticism of
a democrat democratic operatives working in media, working at big tech, suppressing news
that would have substantial would have hurt Joe Biden in the election to a great degree,
not because Hunter Biden does drugs, but because the emails showed that they were holding 10,
that 10% will be held by H for the big guy, that there were nefarious deals going on.
And we don't want a president going into office who has nefarious deals.
Now, back when Trump was running, they're like, Donald Trump has a secret server communicating with Russia.
Lies.
So when their criticism was, we don't want a president entering office who has these
ties to foreign interest and is beholden to them in these debts.
I'm like, all right, you know, I can accept that to a certain degree.
Now, it's one thing if you're a businessman like Trump and you have buildings with mortgages
all over the world.
That's like saying we don't want someone who runs international business to be president for the sake that they just because they run international business.
Now, to that extent, I will say true in some degree for Joe Biden. But when Joe Biden flies
to Ukraine and says, fire the prosecutor that or you're not getting your billion dollar in loans,
Joe Biden has no right to leverage
the united states providing aid to ukraine in a conflict with russia or or potentially there's a
conflict between russia and ukraine threatening them you know we're going to pull out unless you
fire this prosecutor and as matt taibbi reported the prosecutor was investigating brisma where his
son was on the board that is dramatically different from trump having debt and buildings
so this story gets suppressed. What do we get?
You look at the Rasmussen study.
Rasmussen did a study. I think it was like 7% to 10% of people. Yeah, 9%.
9% when asked. If you
knew about the Hunter Biden stuff, would you have voted for Biden?
No. So that would have been dramatically
different. Now here we are. What's been happening? Economy,
inflation's through the roof, border crisis, Afghanistan
crisis, domestic agendas
failing. The squad members are, I mean, I i'm already at five squad members are ripping the democratic
party to shreds which they've been doing for some time but now they're pulling funding for the iron
dome wow is the biden administration completely unfit now here's my favorite part there was a
poll back in august most americans think joe biden is unfit to be president. Do you know what the poll today is? Most, 48%, so it's not the majority,
because it's 48% think he's not even mentally stable.
This is where we are.
When the media manipulates and lies on news we knew to be true
that we had already confirmed,
that was independently confirmed by people looking at the emails,
corroborating it, and they suppress this,
this is why you end up with a cult that
believes insane things like the economy is good and regular people of different political persuasions
like everyone here probably has you know different political worldviews but we can recognize the
truth when we see it i think what annoys me the most about this story is the media always is is
pulling their weight in a certain favor right i mean we have innumerable examples of that in the
trump administration and going back
to as long as I've been following politics.
What bothers me the most about this particular episode is I cannot find, and I could be wrong,
but I can't find in my memory hole one other time that Twitter actually suspended technologically
the ability to share the story.
They have labeled things as inaccurate.
Facebook always puts their stamps on it.
But the fact that if you wanted to retweet the story,
you were not allowed to,
is a whole new level of crackdown
that we never saw before.
But you couldn't even send it in a private message, right?
Yes.
Didn't they crack down on that too?
You couldn't even privately send it to somebody.
That is unbelievable.
They suspended one of the oldest newspapers
in this country.
Alexander Hamilton, 1799.
And we all knew very early on the story was true because of independent corroboration.
Statements from people like Tony Bobulinski who came out and said, yes, I'm on those email chains.
Yes, those emails are real.
And we're like, okay, so I'm looking at this like it's not news.
We knew it was real.
What's the revelation?
But they suspended a newspaper.
And the crazy thing is it's taken
how many months?
It's been almost a year
and now they're like
oh New York Post was telling the truth the whole time.
And that's where you have to go to Twitter's CEO
and they bring him before Congress all the time
and they never ask him hard questions.
They never really ask the questions they should
but the question should be
here are an example of 10 other stories
that you could consider as inflammatory as as shocking, as controversial, that were also false.
You never suspended any of them.
So Twitter, walk me through.
I get it.
Private platform.
They can do whatever they want is the argument.
Walk me through the criteria that for this story, someone made the decision to say, this is why we have to suspend it as opposed to.
And you've dealt with this in your own personal life.
One person says all these things. They're totally fine. You say this, and we have to suspend it as opposed to and you've dealt with this in your own personal life one person says all these things they're totally fine you say this and it's like oh suspended well what was the criteria and it seems to be well i just don't like that
person it feels kind of like being in a band that was a one-hit wonder and being like you know i
had this big song back in the 80s because because a few years ago i went on the joe rogan podcast
and i was talking to jack dorsey and it's like one of one people bring this up all the time so that's the you know kind of the
point i'm making but i showed them a tweet from antifa where they were like everyone go to this
place at this time to commit violence and i was like how has this tweet been up for months and
the replies to it are getting banned so clearly someone at twitter sees this bans replies but
lets that one stay i'm, are you guys feds?
Because the only reason I can understand that you would keep that up is it's bait from the
feds.
Makes sense.
And they're like, we didn't know about it.
Oh, geez.
Oh, no.
I'm like, nah.
Okay, look.
I'm done playing these games.
Some Trump supporter guy says, hashtag learn to code.
It was, you know what it was?
It was the editor-in-chief of the Daily Caller, I think.
Yeah.
Jeffrey Ingersoll. Yeah. he didn't tweet anybody he tweeted
the hashtag he tweeted about learn to code and they suspended him yeah that that that i'm i got
my details right absolutely yeah i remember that was hysterical but you can say it about coal miners
that's what i jumped on that because that's the response that that they say all the time about
people in the energy industry well you gotta learn've got to learn to code. It has been used as a learner skill that you need in the 21st century.
But you can't say that to, what was it, Gawker?
It wasn't when Gawker was fired?
No, Gawker was fired.
But it was one of those companies.
It was one of those publications that went down,
and that was pretty funny on its part.
I hear you on the Congress stuff,
but I really don't think there's anything you can do
bringing these people before Congress.
I think they are duplicitous.
I think they are liars.
I think they keep calling in Jack Dorsey, who's a spokesperson figurehead who doesn't actually do anything with the company.
Because Jack tweeted – he tweeted the anatomy of the state by Rothbard, and everyone was like, whoa.
Because he clearly is not – it is a weird thing from a tweet considering he provides cover for the machine.
But I don't think he's actually running the show they keep bringing these people for congress and saying you know you did this and they're like oh i'll get back to you i don't know
it's nothing happens nothing nothing changes i think this country is imploded already you know
i mentioned it the day before i've mentioned on my other show and you take a look at the fact that
they've brought how many times have they been pulled before Congress over this stuff?
Five, I don't know.
There's no way there's going to be any meaningful legislation
to deal with the suppression of our speech on these platforms.
And the left likes to say, but my private platform,
and I'm like, it's an inane argument, okay?
They have conquered the commons, plus we're locked down.
You know, a lot of places people can't go out.
So this is how we're communicating.
At a certain point when they control too much we have anti-trust laws we or we come in and we regulate we do these things we always do it we normally do it because we don't
want companies usurping the power of the citizenry and the people and suppressing the rights of the
working class none of that's going to happen because there's no way the republicans and
democrats will agree even when we had republicans in 2016 18, they were too stupid to realize what was happening.
And now they're all getting banned and they're all.
But those are mostly like neocons, you know, Paul Ryan, stuff like that.
Now what we're seeing is, well, the Republicans can't get anything done.
Democrats are just cheating.
They're trying to put immigration reform in a spending bill.
Joe Biden is just ruling by decree, rubber stamping legislation as executive order.
And then it just it just happens?
So all I see is,
I was reading about decline of civilizations before,
and there's a period at which,
it's been a while,
but I can't get into the specifics,
where you'll start to see
autocratic rule
because it becomes so dysfunctional
that the only way
to actually move forward
is for a sovereign to decree and say,
we have to do this now, otherwise we're doing nothing.
So they force things to happen, and that just exacerbates the destabilization.
There are two components to this story.
There's the censorship, which is extremely frustrating.
It says suppression of free speech, what it did to the election, et cetera.
But then there's the actual story itself, which is how corrupt is this family?
I mean, obviously they've got an awful lot of skeletons in their closet.
And when you've got a sitting vice president who negotiated trade deals
and planned for his future, and every president and vice president plans for their future, right?
I mean, they all know it's not going to last forever.
But he was using clearly the power of government to build himself a very profitable, very lucrative.
Heck, you saw it in his tax returns, right? His last year as vice president, his net wealth was
$400,000 that year. And then the year after it was 17 point something million. And you're like,
wow, that's a really great profit margin. What a good year for him.
A very good year. And so, but there's that level of corruption that you say, well, what were the trade deals that you were negotiating?
And, again, the 10% for the big guy.
And they seem to be with pretty awful people, right?
It's with China.
It's with Ukraine.
And, you know, I hate to rag on Hunter Biden.
Well, actually, I don't because he's a deplorable, vile human being. When your brother dies of cancer,
and within the year, you are sleeping with his wife.
You're leaving your own wife and your children
to sleep with your dead brother's wife.
And then while you're sleeping with your former sister-in-law,
making your cousins now stepchildren,
you're sleeping with her sister simultaneously and in top of the sister
you impregnate a stripper in alabama you are just you are a scumbag i'm sorry there's no other way
around that like like and and i'm sorry joe biden must hate that he looks at hunter because it
reminds him the good son died and that's got to eat at him because you are truly a vile vile human being to do that
to your kids i imagine his poor kids and they show the kids all the time the grandkids joe
biden's grandkids my dad was dead and this dirtbag is sleeping with my what a disgusting family
they're like the kennedys without the money or the class wow well i do want well two things first
of all you did get me a little worked up talking talking about the lurid details of his love life.
That was pretty steamy.
Second of all, I would like to defend him because this man is an artist.
Okay?
This man is an artist.
And where would we be if it weren't for vile, deplorable human beings who create quality art?
I mean, he's stretching 75K.
So he's an artist.
That's what happens.
That's what artists do.
They live wild libertine lives.
This is why I said I love Chris.
He's so funny.
They cut deals with China, and they kick back 10% to the big guy while he's in office.
And no one has to know who bought the art.
Yes.
That's totally cool.
Sounds like money laundering.
A little bit, yeah.
You think?
Look, I love pulling up the story because it's important.
For anybody who's like, how do I love pulling up the story because it's important for, for anybody
who's like, how do I tell my friends and family about this stuff?
I think there's a lot of people who are in the cult who are, who are, I don't want to
say too far gone, but very difficult to reach.
And it's, and it's, and it's hard to get to them.
But at the very least you can show them an article.
This is from Politico, Biden Inc.
That big right of center publication Politico, right?
That huge.
Over his decades in office, middle-class Joe's family fortunes have closely tracked his political career from August of 2019.
And I think they actually have like a graphic.
Look at this.
They show when Joe Biden enters the Senate and then James Biden operates Seasons Change nightclub with help from unusually generous bank loans.
Unusually.
In 87, he launches his first presidential campaign.
So about eight years later, his brother James and Sarah Biden's Lion Hall group hired to push Washington's agenda of tobacco trial lawyers for Mississippi.
So the most important one, in my opinion, is – let me try and find it.
I think it's 2011.
Let me see if I can – okay, here we go.
In – where's Joe Biden?
Joe Biden sworn in as VIP.
2009 Paradigm's connections to Ponzi schemer Alan Stanford and the fraudulent Ponta Negra fund come to light.
James Biden and Hunter Biden begin to unwind, to unwind Paradigm.
James Biden joins Hillstone International.
In June of 2011, Hillstone International lands a $1.5 billion contract to build housing in Iraq.
So Joe Biden becomes vice president.
Joe Biden is put in charge of the Iraq operation.
His brother gets contracts for building in Iraq.
You look at this map put together by Politico tracking his family's fortunes around him.
And it's just, come on, it's just so obvious. I mean, if the government, if not the government,
if CNN was able to track down through Facebook
that old woman who shared a meme about President Trump
and knocked on her door to ask her about it,
you're going to tell me the government can't put in some system to say
if Chris becomes president, Chris's sister can't get a $1.5 billion contract?
Like, all these things were just like, oh my gosh, there was no safeguards for any of this.
I mean, it's just mind-boggling, the level of grift and corruption and scumbaggery.
It breaks your heart because it makes you think there's no one left.
But if you were to argue the people on the other side of the aisle, the people that are really hard to reach,
they're just going to say, oh, that's politics.
That's politics, yeah.
That's just how it goes. What's the big deal? Joe made some money.
I mean, that's how the system works. They all do it.
Yeah, they all do it. They'll do it.
They'll cite some stories about Trump that are not the same as I mentioned
or fake. And this story from Joe Biden is from 2019.
It's not like he was running for office and there was a smear piece against him now i'm not gonna i'm not gonna pretend trump's a saint but there's
a big difference between being some crazy real estate mogul who's got a bunch of buildings around
the world and you have debts on them like i think it's funny when the story came out where they're
like trump owes 500 million in debt on his properties and people were like whoa and i'm
like yeah okay that's what those are his liabilities what are his assets and then trump came out and he
was like yes i have mortgages on buildings like everybody else
and the buildings are worth a billion.
It's just lies, manipulation.
Yeah, and just the Biden,
the unraveling of their level of corruption,
I think deserved to come to a head before the election.
It clearly did not.
But this is standard behavior for the media,
where they either exacerbate stories that they think are interesting or fascinating or a narrative.
You could look to, we're going to talk about Miss Petito later on, right? There's a narrative they
like to push of missing women. There's a narrative about racism they like to push.
But then you have another story. Case in point, there was a terrible school shooting three or four days ago in, I forget where it was.
Newport News.
Newport News.
No coverage because people looked at the narrative and they were like, eh, doesn't help the cause.
Nothing.
I would like to say that we did cover that at Tim Cass News.
Good.
As it should have.
We did cover that.
As you should have because it is newsworthy.
But this is where, you know, I think what bothers me about the media, just their level of disgusting behavior
because they push their narrative, is one of the very first things that happened when
Trump was sworn into office, and I've followed media bias for a while, but this one I thought
set the tone for his administration.
January 20th, 2017, it was 5.30 in the afternoon, hours after, and it was Zeke Miller on behalf of
the White House press pool who tweeted
President Trump has removed the Martin Luther
King bus from the Oval Office.
And Sean Spicer saw the tweet
in real time and was like, dude, it's right
there. But it didn't
matter. The damage was
done. And he could have, as a good
member of the press, said, hey, Sean,
I gotta ask before I tweet this.
Did you remove the MLK bust?
And Spicer would have said, No, it's right there.
But he didn't verify because he
won the damn narrative.
And that's what they do all the time.
And you just have to see that those
things explode. 500,000
retweets, 1 million likes, but
then the retraction. It's not journalism.
It's gossip. It is.
That's it. Gawker started all
that, and now they're defunct, thank God.
No, they're back.
They're back as NBC
and Politico and everyone else.
Gawker itself, a new version, has re-emerged.
Is it still called Gawker? Yes, it is.
But it really started with yellow journalism.
There's been a long, tried history
of really, I mean, just biased reporting.
So it's been around for a long time, and it's just gotten worse.
Yeah.
There's money to be made.
You know, the crazy thing is we can see it now, and we're shocked by it.
But imagine the stories we would have read in the paper in the 90s, the 80s, 90s, 2000s,
before we had a strong internet culture that was challenging and fact-checking.
People just believed it.
Look at NBC.
WMDs, man.
Yeah, look at NBC News during the Trayvon Martin case, right?
Remember when they edited the audio of Zimmerman?
And he said, he looks like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, black.
And they just clipped it.
He looks like he's black.
And they were like, wow, I can't believe he said that.
He looks like he's up to no good.
He looks black.
Yeah.
And then it turns out he said he looks like he's up to no good. He looks black. Yeah. And then it turns out he said he's up to no good.
And then he says, is he white?
Is he Mexican or black?
Oh, someone asked him.
He's black.
Yeah.
But they just took all that out.
Do you remember on September 11th when they said they found one of the guy's passports,
one of the hijacker's passports on the ground outside the wreckage?
Oh, yeah.
Like it fell out of the airplane and landed on the ground?
I don't remember that.
That was media.
That's insane.
Holy cow.
The one thing that survived amongst the rubble is his passport.
Yeah, they're like, we got it.
We know who it is now.
Laid on top.
Well, that's the official story.
Yeah.
Isn't that, what the heck?
Like a passport fell out of an airplane?
What are they talking about?
You know.
Jet fuel doesn't melt passports. not yeah i don't i don't
know why ian went there with the story pre-internet news it's like that was like the end of the
pre-internet news era and then the weapons of mass destruction thing and now we kind of have
an ability to fact check stuff on our own but before like the first war in iraq i wonder how
much was going on there that we don't know i got i got i got a really good example for you guys you ready for this one we have a story from august 19th 2021 it is from cnn
from chris saliza ah the great chris saliza republicans treat keep okay republicans keep
trying to make biden's mental capacity an issue oh no and then that he goes on to mention people
calling him out you know saying that his mental capacity is an issue and it's a Republican game and blah, blah, blah.
I'm not going to read this, right?
You know why?
Because I can just pull up first from a day later.
Most voters deem Biden unfit to be president, poll shows.
Okay, okay.
Well, that's not saying mental capacity like Chris Eliza was challenging, but it does show that most voters think he's not capable of being president.
Now we have this story.
Less than half of Americans say
Biden is mentally stable enough to serve as president.
Chris, it's not Republicans trying to make it an issue.
It's people being polled saying his brain don't work.
It's an issue.
It's an issue.
It's an issue.
Yeah.
I'm feeling pretty blackpilled on this
because earlier today
i'm looking at all this news and i see this story less than half of americans say biden is meant is
mentally stable enough to serve as president and i was like yeah we know that and then i'm thinking
to myself so i did a segment on this where i was like not as much about the fact that biden can't
function properly and everything's collapsing and the country's basically on fire.
And I was just like, I know the border screwed up.
I know the economy screwed up.
I know our foreign policy screwed up.
I know the president has no idea what's going on.
And I know his cabinet's in shambles and they're confused.
Jen Psaki is muttering and stuttering and stammering and stammering and circling back.
And then I'm like, what am I even going to say about this? And then I was like, actually, if that's where we're at as a country, we are seriously screwed.
Well, I bleep myself.
We are bleeped.
Oh, okay.
Because we're at a point now where it is uninteresting to people to hear that the president of the United States is viewed as mentally unfit mentally not not mentally stable
enough that that we're seeing the catastrophe and the crisis across the country and we've normalized
to it to the point where it's not surprising to hear americans don't see the president as stable
mentally stable i i have a slightly different theory, and I wonder, I was developing this idea
while we were talking about
the Hunter Biden story.
So the laptop now is officially correct.
Everyone agrees.
The New York Post, of course,
is shocked this is the case.
But I think,
I wonder if the Hunter Biden thing
is a segue to being like,
oh my gosh,
Biden is incredibly corrupt.
Not only do most people think
he's unfit to be president,
like mentally unstable,
they also think he's super corrupt.
Maybe we should just
25th Amendment him out of here.
I don't know.
So maybe Kamala Harris' team made this story get to Politico to say,
let's just start doing the damage.
I don't know.
I'm just spitballing.
Yeah, that's a great theory.
You mentioned Jen Psaki today and just, again, the spinning of lies.
What we need is we need, like, your parents.
Remember when you would get caught, like, either drunk or late or whatever as a kid and you tried to tell your mom a story and she was like, no.
Like tell me what the hell actually happened.
Like she wasn't buying it.
Jen Psaki today when Peter Doocy asked, so you are asking Europeans to show their COVID passport, but if you cross the border illegally, you don't have to show your COVID passport.
And she said, well, yes, unlike the Europeans, the illegals are not planning to stay a long time.
And that was the end of the question.
And no one in the room was the mom to be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold up.
You think the Europeans are staying a long time and the illegals are temporary?
Like they're not here for travel.
Like, Jen, what you just said is a complete 180-degree lie.
They're just like, oh, Jen Psaki said this, and they write it down, and they tweet it, and that's it.
And we need an adult to finally say, time out.
Time out, Jen.
That was just a lie.
We want to take that over again.
We just accept lies.
I mean, we would need a Michael Malice press secretary.
Yes.
Yes, we would. Mises Malice press secretary. Yes. Yes, we would. Mises
caucus, libertarian Dave Smith. I don't even care if this whole country becomes communist in 20
years. If I can see Michael Malice's press secretary for one day, I will die happy. That's
all I want to see. There's one guy in the diplomatic press corps when I used to work at the
State Department in the Bush administration long, long time ago, and he's still there, Matt Lee,
and he is by far the senior most foreign policy journalist.
And he used to make our lives miserable
because I worked in the press office.
And he was ruthless.
And he's the only one, but again,
it doesn't get as much attention
because it's the foreign policy beat.
But he will just take them to task and say,
no, no, no, hang on.
You just said this.
You said this yesterday.
That doesn't make any sense.
Like, if you ever watch his exchange, he does not buy BS.
It's really the difference between an investigative journalist and a reporter.
A reporter is going to say, you lie to him, and I'm just going to report on the lie.
Or the White House press pool, where they're all just like, oh, Jen Psaki said this, and
they type it down.
We need more investigated journalists in there.
Absolutely.
But they don't really get invited, right?
It's like an invite-only thing?
No, it's the White House reporters.
They're just there to ask questions and report what's said.
They're not investigating.
But we definitely need – we need someone to challenge it.
But I'll say this.
Nobody cares.
You know why?
Because when we look at stories about CNN, Republicans are trying to make it an issue that Biden's not mentally.
Republicans pounce.
And I'm like, it's not Republicans.
It's independent voters overwhelmingly disapprove of Joe Biden.
But everything, you know, I love it.
When I did the Russell Brand podcast and was talking about Civil War, and I just went to town as fast as I could on all the different points about, like, street fighting, January 6th, all that stuff, and psychological warfare, fifth-generational warfare.
And the comments were like, Tim Pool is a leftist.
He says this about Trump.
Tim Pool is a right-winger.
He says this about Biden.
And I'm just like, these people don't seem to realize that independent voters exist.
So they come out, and they're like, it's just Republicans. And I'm like, you know what's funny?
There was this researcher
who did this thing on YouTube years ago
where he was tracking the political
persuasions of YouTube recommendations.
And he was doing it because of this idea
of the rabbit hole that they kept pushing.
And so he had, I think he basically
had four categories.
Left, center, right, and
exclusively critical of left. And he initially
put people like me and Dave Rubin in the category of exclusively critical of left.
And so I talked to him and I pointed out like, why is that the case when I do express my opinions
that are, I think the real issue was we are taught, we are complaining about Democrats,
but our opinions were not right wing. That was the only issue. So if I said something like, hey, a Green New Deal that actually rebuilds infrastructure is a good thing, but the Democrats are pushing some weird socialist garbage about universal college.
That's not a Green New Deal.
He's like, you're just criticizing the left.
I'm like, I'm literally supporting a leftist policy.
But either the left was in favor of critical race theory.
Centrists were like mixed on it and the right opposed it.
So if you opposed critical race theory, you were were like mixed on it and the right opposed it. So if you opposed
critical race theory, you were just called a critical of left. I'm like, that's how people,
even researchers, view what's happening right now. And I'm like, isn't it perhaps you're a
centrist then or heterodox or something or politically homeless? No. Politics only flows
in one direction. If a right wing dude stands back next to a left-wing dude, the left-wing dude is called right-wing.
If a right-wing dude is hanging out with Antifa and they're all waving Antifa flags and he's got his arms around their shoulders with his thumbs up, they will say they're actually secret right-wingers.
When I get into conversations with people, one of my favorite things to say is, okay, so you hear about the right-wing a lot.
The right-wing is obviously a problem in your view, right?
Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely.
The news is always reporting it.
There's far right wing extremists.
I was just like, so is there a far left?
Oh, no, there's not a far left.
They just can't see it.
They refuse to see it.
It's willful blindness.
Yeah, and legislatively, they know that because that's why they have to, like you mentioned,
the Green New Deal with all this leftist garbage in it.
And I also oppose the Green New Deal.
But they have to sneak that leftist garbage in it because if it stood on its own,
they know they wouldn't have a vote for it.
Look, you mentioned at the beginning of the show, you mentioned the immigration bill.
Why are they trying to tag it into a spending bill?
Because they know they can't pass an immigration bill.
The immigration bill they want, so they have to squeeze it into.
And that's just what our Congress does now.
If we could have a vote on this water bottle where everyone yay or nay water bottle, The immigration bill they want, so they have to squeeze it into. And that's just what our Congress does now. We don't write.
If we could have a vote on this water bottle where everyone yay or nay water bottle,
Congress would work.
But instead, it's like, well, we can't do that because I don't want to go on record about the water bottle.
Right.
So we take everything and throw it on a 4,000. And that's where we are.
4,000 page, $3.5 trillion.
We will vote on it on Christmas Eve at 9 o'clock at night.
And that's what we do because all of these
things, if they stood on their own,
I don't want to get judged on that. So we
throw them all in this crap sandwich and we call it
like the For the Children of Tomorrow
Holding Hands Across America Bill.
And then they're like, if you don't vote for this,
Chris, you hate the troops. And they're like,
you hate America. And it's like, I just
want to vote on the water bottle.
But hold on.
So why doesn't Rand Paul or Thomas Massey just slide stuff in?
I'll tell you this.
When they did the omnibus spending bill, remember that?
5,000-something pages.
$12 million for Pakistani gender studies programs.
I don't know about any of you listening, but I don't care if you're on the left or the right.
We can all agree that spending $12 million on gender study programs in America is better than giving it
to Pakistan.
At least you'd create
American jobs.
Actually, I don't know
if I agree with that necessarily.
We don't want weird
indoctrination.
But I get your point, yeah.
But why are we giving
our money away
for ridiculous things like this?
More importantly,
when I see that,
I'm like, Rand Paul,
if you're listening,
can you just write
something very simple
saying,
and we abolish
the Federal Reserve
and just slide it in there? Slide it it yeah i know it's like everybody votes on it
and they're like yay and then all of a sudden they're like did we just abolish the federal
reserve what do we do so why doesn't he do that i don't know because they they i think because
they see the process as an honorable righteous righteous, constitutionally mandated, and this is how we do it.
So we don't violate the rules.
When they have power, they violate the rules left and right.
But when we get power, we don't play by their rules.
Now, there's a growing movement of the right.
I would say it's led by a guy named Jesse Kelly.
There is a growing movement of the right that says when we get power, we will double down on that because that is now what he is calling the new right.
When we get power, look, they're trying to not abolish the filibuster.
And people like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, a senator from Arizona, we're not going to abolish the filibuster.
It's part of our history.
If the right gets power in 2022, absolutely abolish the filibuster and torture these people.
Change all of the rules and take all of the power and crush your enemies.
I don't agree with that.
I'm just saying that's what the new right says.
They're scared because I think it was Harry Reid who changed the rules.
Yeah.
And so that backfired.
They said you will rue the day.
And they did.
They did.
And look what they got.
They got Gorsuch.
They got the other guy.
And the third one.
That's my memory.
They got Gorsuch, and they got Kavanaugh, and they got Amy Coney Barrett.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you see this story?
Check this out from The Guardian.
Oh, yeah.
To protect the Supreme Court's legitimacy, a conservative justice should step down.
Oh.
If presidents do not get to replace justices in election year, then Coney Barrett's confirmation is illegitimate.
If presidents do, then Gorsuch's
is illegitimate. You can't have it both ways.
They operate on lies.
The only way Lawrence Douglas
is able to convince people of this stuff
is by omitting key information. Notably,
that it is not about
replacing a justice in election year.
Mitch McConnell was specifically talking about
if you do not control the Senate, they will not confirm your appointee. And we would be
wasting our time by having everyone sit around and then vote no. Republicans are not going to
approve Garland for you. It was Garland, right? For Obama. So he was like, you don't have the
Senate. You do not have the votes for confirmation. The country is not unified. When it came to
Amy Coney Barrett and Gorsuch, or Coney Barrett specifically, is that they had the presidency and the Senate.
So they were able to do it.
It's that simple.
They operate on lies.
They use false arguments.
And that's how they maintain control.
And don't forget, when McConnell first said that, according to the New York Times, Hillary Clinton had a 97% chance of winning.
Hillary Clinton, although she would probably deny this, Hillary Clinton probably when that happened was like, I agree with that.
Because she was convinced with 97% chance she was going to win.
And she wanted to appoint her own justice to the Supreme Court.
She probably secretly and her team were like, that's awesome.
Yeah, let's hold them, Eric Garland.
When we get to pick, because we're going to win.
So much so they had ordered fireworks, right?
She was going to win.
I remember that election.
It's a date I remember.
A lot of people are sharing a new report that CERN,
Large Hadron Collider, is going to be firing up again.
And I don't know if you all know this, but didn't they fire up in 2016,
smashing particles together or whatever?
So when they found the Higgs boson?
No, I don't know.
But the joke conspiracy is that they accidentally warped us into an alternate reality or something.
Somehow Donald Trump became president and all that stuff.
And now they're doing it again.
And who knows what's going to happen.
But this is the state of the country where the Democrats, the establishment media are duplicitous they manipulate they deceive
they use fake arguments and i'm no fan of the republican party i think they do nothing you
literally have republicans here's what happens democrats are like we would like to strip the
rights away from law-abiding citizens in this country and republicans go no wait don't and
they say well you guys are at don't
we're at strip their rights how about we strip half of their rights and republicans go okay good
compromise yeah yeah yeah this is so bad so i i don't know about you know you were just mentioning
that when the abolishing the filibuster yeah that when republicans get in do it abolish filibuster
and then just trample over democrats i don't want to see that happen i'm saying that's what people
are saying right yeah but but yeah so i i think there's obviously people saying let's do it abolish filibuster and then just trample over democrats i don't want to see that happen i'm saying that's what people are saying right yeah but but yeah so i i think there's obviously
people saying let's do it let's go nuclear i think that contributes to the gradual decline
of the u.s system of governance and the reason we're seeing democrats like joe biden bypass the
legislature and supreme court and in violation of our norms and law is because they're tired
they want to get things done they want to do things they can't. This country used to move slowly.
You used to have to ride on a horseback to go to D.C. to cast a vote.
And policy moved slowly.
Now they're like, it must be done now.
Okay, here's what I want to see.
Lauren Boebert, would you please keep consistently filing bills to repeal the NFA?
Can we get Marjorie Taylor Greene as well?
Thomas Massey, Rand Paul, all you guys, repeal the NFA. Give me a Marjorie Taylor Greene as well? Thomas Massey, Rand Paul, all you guys,
repeal the NFA. Give me a good reason why they would. Why not? Seriously, why not? National
Firearms Act. No, no, no. Get rid of it. We have the right to keep in bare arms. I'm not saying
that we would legitimately repeal the NFA, but at the very least, the terms of the argument should
not be no, wait, don't. It should literally be like, okay, Democrats, you're at gun control.
We're at complete deregulation of all gun laws in the country.
How about we agree upon we'll only ban Fulior?
How about we're going to repeal the NFA, and then you could start arguing from our position on gun rights.
They don't do that.
Republicans never do this.
No, they buy into the common sense gun rules, right? And that's just what you do. You just
rephrase it as common sense gun protection, common sense gun
restrictions. And now we've ceded to the argument
that these are common sense, as opposed to saying this isn't common sense. This is unconstitutional.
But it's not even, I don't mean to make it about a gun rights thing and be like, guns
around the table. I'm saying quite literally literally when the Democrats go, universal health care.
The Republicans don't go, deregulation of government health care.
They go, no, wait, don't.
And then the Democrats say, okay, you're at stop and we're at government health care.
How about we meet halfway and do public option?
Yeah, which is most of the time what happens and then they get most of what they wanted anyway.
I would like to go back –
And the Democrats tell people it's inverted. Yeah. We're helpless. The Republicans are stopping us. what happens, and then they get most of what they wanted anyway. I would like to go back.
The Democrats tell people it's inverted.
Yeah.
We're helpless.
The Republicans are stopping us. We wanted so much more.
I would just like to go back to single-issue votes like the water bottle.
I can't understand why we can't get people in Congress who will say,
this is the bill, and it's a page and a half, and here's how much it costs,
and it goes through the appropriate committee, and it goes through markup,
and it makes it to. Instead, we it goes through markup, and it makes it to.
Instead, we get these monster, monster, monster bills.
We don't even do the appropriation process right.
And that's why people like Joe Biden's brother get $1.5 trillion contracts.
Because it's rolled up into the Defense Reauthorization Act, and no one knows where it is.
Well, it's the appropriation process?
The way it should work is that it depends upon what the issue is.
So say it's transportation, right?
We want to build a bridge between these two states.
Federal government has to get a job.
It has to go through the Transportation Subcommittee.
The Department of Transportation has to make their proposal.
Transportation Subcommittee works it up.
Appropriation says, how much do we have in the Treasury?
And then those two then together bring it to the floor for the larger vote. And then you got to whip the
votes and say, you're going to vote for my bridge and I'll vote for your bridge. But if you vote for
my bridge and then the Senate actually works. But what's happening now? How is that different?
We are just bypassing all that. You know what's happening? The Transportation Committee will have
a markup on racism in the Transportation Department. And they'll talk about the inherent racism of the taxi cab system.
And they'll say, if you don't vote.
The inherent racism of Rome.
Pete Buttigieg, in his confirmation, talked about how we must acknowledge as a country that most of our infrastructure was built on racism.
And they say, if you don't vote for my bill, you hate the troops.
You're racist.
All that stuff.
You're not a bigot, are you?
So then they'll take your bridge and they'll roll it into everything.
Well, you know what your bridge is?
It's going to come out in the $3.5 trillion, along with everyone else's little...
So you're talking about appropriating funds for individual projects within a large...
Wouldn't that be great?
Sure would be.
And then the committee says, how much does the transportation department actually need next year?
What are all the projects we have?
What do they actually need? Blah, blah, blah. But but we don't do that we're just like uh we just make up
numbers you know how i've described what's going on the culture war in the past i've said it's like
imagine there's a big whirlpool that's spinning around and we're all in it and over time it's
getting tighter and and and compressing and spinning faster and faster and faster that's
because we're getting lower in the pool as we we go down, it gets tighter and faster.
Maybe.
Maybe we're circling the drain.
That's a good way to put it.
I think in the real world, the reality is that the information is circulating faster and faster.
So the analogy I love the most is imagine it's the revolutionary era,
and the founding fathers are like, we declare independence.
And they fold up
the letter and they pour the wax on it and stamp it. And they hand it to the carrier who rides on
horseback to the boat, who puts it on the boat, who then gets the boat on the water for three
months to make it back to the King of England. And then in that three months, if you sent the
letter, you're sitting there, you're working the crops or you're having meetings and discussions
about independence. And then the king,
the boat finally lands. It takes a few days to make it from the port to the king and to parliament.
And then the king reads it and says, oh, he had. And then he drafts a letter and he says,
I reject this. We're sending in troops. And then three months after that,
that's how things used to be. You would say, we're going to have a policy position.
How many times, like if they were actually going to go to D.C. and actually have a vote,
they had to physically go there, they'd have discussions,
and they weren't hearing all of this stuff all over the place.
Like if you lived in Virginia and then someone came down from New York,
you were hearing things for the first time.
Up in New York, we had a dam breach.
And now we've got water flooding these areas.
We are not securing our...
And then you'd be like, I didn't know that happened.
You guys ever see the movie News of the World with Tom Hanks?
No.
It was a reconstruction era.
And he has newspapers from different cities.
And he travels around the South with old newspapers charging people a dime so they can sit down as he reads the news.
That's how things used to be today.
What happens is someone goes on Twitter and says, abolish the police. And then someone else says,
I agree. AOC, why aren't you abolishing the police? And literally within like 10 minutes,
she's like, I, as a representative, think we should abolish the police. I'm not saying
literally, I'm saying as an example. So we're moving instantaneously. And then because she
can't get it done in a session because we're still using
this old system of like, you know, Ian, you're probably like this. We're meeting in person
instead of doing things digitally. Then people demand, if we can all see the problem, why can't
we click a button and fix it? Why are we waiting so long for this? And then when it's not getting
done, they say, let's just bypass the rules of the legislature. Joe Biden says, let me just rule
by executive order and bypass the Supreme Court, which told me what I'm doing is illegal, but I don't care.
I'll do it anyway, because we demand instant satisfaction.
Whole system is about to burst.
It's burst already.
And now we're just waiting for the light to reach our eyes.
But even the example you used, which I liked of the guy from Virginia heard about the damn breach from New York.
If that was happening in real time, probably the back of his head was like, well, sorry, New York, but I represent Virginia.
We don't even have that anymore.
Proof of that.
And you mentioned our beloved Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez when she was caught maskless at that ball a couple of weeks ago.
And her one her initial response was, well, like as the congresswoman from New York York, I'm there for cultural reasons, but it's also my constituency.
And you say, no, that was in Manhattan.
You are Queens in the Bronx.
That museum isn't your, like there is no constitutional reason for you to say I represent
New York.
But in her mind, I'm fairly convinced she thinks I am the congresswoman of New York.
Yep.
You wish you were the congressperson who I think would be Jerry Nadler,
if I'm right, but I could be wrong.
I think that's his direction.
You would love for him to call it and be like, I'm sorry, child.
Like, that's my district.
Don't talk about my district.
But that's all we do now.
We have members of Congress who are passing laws,
senators who are passing laws about states that aren't even represented.
We want to close ANWR, Patty Murray, Washington.
I've told the senators from Alaska to say pass a bill that says apples are illegal.
Consider this.
Because that's Washington.
Consider this.
It's back in the, let's say, 1800s at some point, early 1800s,
and someone from Virginia goes to Congress and someone from New York comes down and says,
we had a damn breach.
And he says, I represent Virginia.
I don't know.
I don't tell you.
You know, we want to make sure we can help our, you know, our friends in New York.
So we'll see what we can do today.
You'll get I'll avoid naming the specific companies, but you'll get a major corporation
going to up in Virginia and say, vote for our bill so we can gut the natural spring
waters in New York.
Yeah. You see, it wasn't as easy to transfer money back then and say, vote for our bill so we can gut the natural spring waters in New York.
Yeah.
You see, it wasn't as easy to transfer money back then and to communicate as quickly.
So you'd have to have a major corporation's spokesman go down to Virginia to lobby specifically.
Possible.
It was done.
It was a lot harder.
Nowadays, you get a LinkedIn message.
You get a list.
You get a bunch of phone calls and emails.
You get texts nonstop. And there's a guy saying, look, you don't care about New York, right? You represent Virginia. Great. get a bunch of phone calls and emails. You get texts nonstop.
And there's a guy saying, look, you don't care about New York, right? You represent Virginia.
Great. Here's what we're going to do. We think we should be able to harvest all the natural spring water from upstate New York. There's people who live there, but don't worry. They're
not going to sweat it one bit. Besides, there's only 100 people up there. We are going to make
substantial contributions to your political action committees. It's going to be fantastic.
You'll love it when you announce your reelection or when you announce your election or a wink,
wink, nudge, nudge.
And then all of a sudden, somebody in Virginia doesn't care about New York says, I'm in
favor of the Clean Water Usurpation Act, the Theft of Water Act.
I think it would be great if we could share the water with the country.
And it's really just you're bought and paid for.
George Carlin, I think it was,
he said we should put the patches all over their
suits so we know who's sponsoring them.
I just,
I don't think I will ever run for office.
I just wish those who represented
their areas had so much more
pride and sense of ownership
and sense of responsibility and sense
of territorialness so that if another
senator or congressperson was trying to pass laws
or whatever about my area, the response is like,
no, no, no, this is turf warfare.
And it just bothers me that everyone thinks they are the senator of the country.
And there are great examples of that.
Lindsey Graham spends half his time in Afghanistan.
I am here because I am the senator.
You're the senator from South Carolina,
a not hugely significant state.
No offense to South Carolinians who are watching.
Lovely state, have vacationed there many times.
But you're the senator from South Carolina.
Stay in South Carolina.
Care deeply about South Carolina.
But what these guys do is they run for office,
and Republicans, I think,
sometimes are even more guilty of this than Democrats.
Ted Cruz has been Senator of America.
Marco Rubio has been Senator of America
since the day they got into office.
They get their funding from all over the country.
And a lot of times their constituents hate them.
But they raise so much money
on the national level that they keep winning.
But, you know, it was fascinating, the last
Ted Cruz race where he almost lost to
Beto O'Rourke,
who's a whole other thing, running for governor now.
Natural-born Texans, he lost the vote of natural-born Texans.
He won the Republican vote of people who moved to Texas.
Texans didn't like Ted Cruz.
Well, let's talk about laws.
We'll talk about sound policy, and we'll make it about guns.
I want to take the opportunity to advance our gun discussion because I like to.
We have a story from TimCast.com. West Virginia's crime rates decline after state adopts constitutional carry law.
FBI data indicates a steady decline in violent crime since 2016 when the policy was approved by the state's legislature.
So I walk into a gun store, and I'm like, so what do I have to do to buy a gun?
Like, you've got to fill out your NICS form, the National Instant Criminal Check System.
Takes forever.
Yeah, it depends.
Sometimes you can put on the delay list, but sometimes it's 15 minutes.
I'm always on the delay list because Daniel Turner is the most boring name in the world.
And there are like 33,000 Daniel Turners and I'm always delayed.
They got to go through it.
So, well, so sometimes they can be like, come back in a few days.
Or they might just be like, you're being researched.
Give us a few minutes.
But in West Virginia, I'm like, okay, so do I need anything?
No, no.
I can just take this weapon right now?
Yeah.
I can put it on my belt?
Oh, yeah.
You sure you don't want to do concealed carry?
I was like, yeah, you just put it right inside your belt.
And I'm like, really?
Yeah, it's West Virginia.
Constitutional carry.
You can't do it outside the state.
And they do recommend you get your concealed carry permit.
Meaning you take the test, you get approved and all that stuff because it does
benefit you. That is your background check. So you don't have to go through NICS anymore.
You can just walk in and buy. But this is the perfect example. People in West Virginia live
in a very different world from people in New York City and Chicago. So when you see national
level politicians, like basically what we were just talking about is that there are senators
and there are congresspeople for the nation. They actually literally represent one state or one district, but they fundraise off of everyone in the world.
So for those that missed the previous segment, we're basically saying like some guy in Virginia back in the day would go to D.C., hear about a dam breaking in New York State and be like, I represent West Virginia.
I didn't hear anything about this.
I don't know. Nowadays, you'll get big corporations trying to get votes to just crush New York state law by getting a federal law to like supersede it
or by getting support from other places. So this is what ends up happening. You get Democrats who
are like, we should ban guns. I'm like, okay, you know what? I'll say this. First of all,
second amendment. So you can't just do that. But I hear you. If you live in Chicago and you live in
that world, I don't live there anymore. I can tell you what it was like living there.
It doesn't make sense for you to pass a law based on Chicago's problems on West Virginia
because in West Virginia, their crime went down when they told everybody, feel free to
carry a weapon around.
And the example I always give people when they're like, you know, we obviously, you
know, we have different properties here for Timcast and, and there are people who come from cities,
and they're worried about guns and stuff.
I tell people, look, when I go outside, and I'm in New York.
You guys have been to New York, I imagine, of course.
Yeah, I used to live there.
Born and raised.
I am.
Were you scared crossing the street?
It depends upon what stage of my life.
Oh, was I just like walking by a car?
Oh, God, no.
No, we played in the street.
People jaywalk in the street.
We played in the street.
They break open the fire hydrants and spring.
Imagine this.
In Chicago, in New York, you'll be driving around.
You'll see a fire hydrant open up and spring in the street, right?
You've seen those before?
Sure.
It's in the middle of the street.
You notice?
They're a basketball.
People would put basketball hoops up to the street.
They would play.
When a car comes, car, and they'd move.
In Chicago, we would skate in the street. When When a car comes, car, and they'd move. In Chicago, we would skate in the street.
When a car would come, car, and we'd move.
Imagine looking at this gigantic, massive metal hurtling at you at 35 to 40 miles an hour or whatever,
depending on what part of the city you're in, and then freezing up and going,
there are cars everywhere.
What do we do?
When I see people in West Virginia carrying guns, you don't even think about it.
I don't think someone in the car is going to veer off the road and slam into me. Sometimes it happens. And I don't think
a guy's got a gun is going to pull out and just start shooting randomly. But there are people who
live in cities who feel this way. And all of a sudden now they're using the weight of the federal
government to go after states where it makes no sense. This is one of the biggest problems we're
facing right now. And it's why even Sarah Silverman, in my opinion, is saying peaceful divorce.
Because if we're at a point where you've got Democrats being like, we would like to pass laws for New York, but for the
country, that makes no sense. I'll tell you what the problem is. When you see politicians running
for federal office, they want to be in Congress, like AOC or anybody else. They are running for
federal office and they go, I'm going to clean up this town. If you vote for me, we're going to
reduce crime rates and improve schooling and get funding for our university. Hold on. You're not a local
politician. You're running for federal office. You're not representing the district's interests
in terms of how they spend their own tax funds. You're talking about going to Congress and voting
on war and budgets, which will affect your district. But when they're like, I'm going to
clean up this town. No, you're not.
You're going to D.C.
You're going to be voting on cleaning up Afghanistan or coming back and cleaning up Syria.
You want to change those issues.
You vote for local politicians.
What happens now is people are running for office on local issues nationally.
And then they're saying, we've got a gun problem in Chicago, so we should ban guns for people
in West Virginia.
Yeah, that makes sense. Do you think that these politicians and lawmakers started off as people that had local pride
and then they just got corrupted as they got involved in the process?
Or do you think that they were just shills from the beginning to some extent?
I think Kirsten Gillibrand is a great example of that.
She was a congresswoman from upstate New York, moderate Democrat.
Hillary Clinton moved on.
Her seat was vacant, and she got the job.
And now Kirsten Gillibrand is as left-wing as Chuck Schumer.
Remember when she was in the bar?
She had an approval rating from the NRA.
She had a positive approval rating.
I bet you if you ask her now, she would probably be 100% anti-guns in all form.
And that's what separates her from, she would probably be 100% anti-guns in all form.
And that's what separates her from, I think, someone like Senator Bernie Sanders,
because Vermont doesn't have a huge city.
Bernie is only rural.
So Bernie actually on guns is either pretty quiet or actually probably not that bad. But if you're a senator from a state like New York, Kirsten Gillibrand and Chuck Schumer,
no, they just need to win New York City.
They don't care about Albany, Utica, Schenectady.
No one cares about those places.
Same with California.
Same with Illinois.
But if you're from a kind of a state that has like some city, but like it's a rural state, Vermont, the two guys from Connecticut, the two guys from New Hampshire, Maine.
You are spelling out why we need the electoral college.
Absolutely.
When you look at states like New York, Illinois, they say, in Illinois, I don't need to win anything but Chicago.
Yeah.
And that's becoming all of America, and that's the ethos of my organization, PowerOfTheFuture.com,
is the divide in America, the divide in America, growing divide, I think, in my personal philosophy –
I should write a book on this – is between urban and rural.
And we were always a rural country that had big cities.
But it used to be – when I was born, it was 55-45.
And in my lifetime, that has flip-flopped.
And now the majority of us live in cities.
So that's changing.
And city people are – well, thank God.
But city people are making policies for the country.
Look at the Green New Deal.
Look at the high-speed rail and no combustion engine.
That is written by someone who thinks like a girl, AOC, who has only known the city.
She is not thinking of someone who is from rural West Virginia.
So she says, well, we'll just get rid of the combustion engine. And you say, well, in Alaska, a lot of people, like a lot of people,
have a little tiny airplane because that's how they get to the grocery store.
Like it is not uncommon to jump in your little tiny plane,
and they buy planes for what you buy SUVs.
$40,000, you can buy a used plane.
Maybe they don't really have their license, but it's Alaska.
No one cares.
They fly, they land, they go to the grocery.
Ban the combustion engine?
I think I read somewhere that if we shut down all fossil fuel production within this year,
you'd get like 60 million dead within a few months.
Oh, absolutely.
Probably more than that, actually.
I think it's like within a few days, 60 million would die, mostly because they'd be unable
to power refrigerators.
All the diabetics would instantly die because their insulin would spoil.
And then you can't transport food.
You can't drive anymore.
So all of the energy transportation that grows food,
transports food, and makes the water work.
They say that we're addicted to fossil fuels.
It's not that we're addicted.
It's that our infrastructure is built upon it.
It's not an addiction.
It's an energy requirement for sustaining this level of civilization.
Yeah, and they have no idea how farming works, how ranching works, how manufacturing works.
So they will say something like, the PETA folks or the whatever folks, like, this is cruel what you do to animals.
And should we treat animals humanely as we absolutely we should, and we should always strive to be better. But the thing is that you live in the Upper East Side of Manhattan and you think food
is going to Whole Foods and buying
stuff in a package and you have no
idea what it took to get
that thing. Look at this. This is
water in a plastic bottle
that was... This is not possible but for fossil
fuels. Daniel, I was talking to
someone during the primary
and it was... I'm sorry,
not the primary. Yeah, was it? It was during lockdown. So the primary was it was i'm sorry not the primary yeah it was it it was during
lockdown so like primary was throughout lockdown right yeah yeah and i mentioned something like
if we shut down the economy how eventually we're going to run out of food at the stores
and i had someone who was pro like a ubi guy say what are you talking about we can just go to the
store to get food when we need it and then i said if we do UBI and people don't work and don't
make stuff and people aren't
farming, then where will the food
come from? And they're like, the store. What do you mean?
Oh, God.
I hope you cut that person out of your life.
It was Twitter.
And I'm like, there are people who are literally
sitting there thinking that one day
a little loaf of bread just appears on the
shelf and slowly starts growing.
And then you take it, and another one respawns.
They had to be trolling you, Tim.
No, no.
Please be trolled.
Think about how stupid the average person is.
Now realize half of them are stupid.
When I was in first grade, we took the Iowa Basics,
and I got in the 99th percentile.
So I was like, oh, okay, I guess we all got in the 99th percentile
because that was the easiest thing.
They just asked me a bunch of questions,
stuff they already told me.
But that's just not how society works.
People failed.
It's like,
but they told you this.
I can't remember.
It was the most obvious.
It was like,
here's all the answers.
Now write them down.
And how people couldn't get it,
I just don't.
And people are looking at
why food prices are going up
and COVID has a lot to do with that.
Oil prices has a lot to do with that.
Inflation.
But as you were saying with this guy who doesn't know where food comes from,
we paid so much. And working in a slaughtering house is not glorious work, right? It's probably really brutal. I'm sure it pays okay, but it's not that. You're not going to make a huge living.
It employs a lot of ex-convicts, right? It employs a lot of people with records because you're slaughtering cows.
And I know this having talked to people who do this, who own these companies for a living,
and they were making more to stay home the last year and a half with COVID.
And so now you are bringing in beef that is not getting processed that we're throwing
in the garbage.
I have a friend who has five barns and each one of them has 75,000 little baby chicks that they raise to a certain size.
And then the Tysons or companies like that come and take them off and they process the chickens.
And that's why there's always chickens in the grocery store.
But because of COVID, that was all shut down and the chickens got too big.
And all of the machines that process chickens, the chicken has to be this big or this big.
And now the chicken grew an extra two months.
And well, you know what they said?
And this is my,
and his mom was genuinely in tears.
They said, go into your barns
and turn off the AC and close the door.
And that was what they had to do.
And that was the FDA that said that.
And then what, throw them away?
And then you throw them away.
That was the FDA that was like,
and that's what you do.
Hundreds of thousands of chickens that are perfectly healthy.
Why?
Because the government said they're not essential workers.
So now people are like, why is food so expensive?
Government.
I want to talk about economic cascade failure.
So you may have seen these stories over the past few months of people putting up signs saying, we all quit, right?
You were just mentioning that for the past year or so,
people were getting paid more not to work, so why would they work?
I think that plays a role in people not working.
So what happens is we had a story recently, another one,
where it's like sign appears on a restaurant.
We've been working for a month straight with no days off.
There's not enough people here, so we all quit.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
When you have a restaurant with 10 people,
and that allows you to have rotating shifts of part-time workers,
people get their days off.
When three of them end up quitting for whatever reason, leaving for whatever reason, and now you have substantially less staff, people have to pick up shifts.
Then you say, look, we have no one else.
We need you to come in.
And then they say, I can't work this many hours.
I quit. It's a cascade failure
where the more people who quit, the more people will quit, meaning more people will quit. So even
though we've ended the COVID unemployment benefits, you ever have like a thing of water and
you're like draining the tub and you swirl it with your finger for fun to make that spiral?
That's what we did. That's what the Democratic establishment, the governors, and many Republicans did.
They decided that as the economy
was being shuttered, they would swirl
the water as fast as they could to try and kickstart
that little whirlpool to
kick off. As soon as they got a
certain amount of people to quit, it's
ignition. It becomes self-sustainable. A better
way to put it is they had the stick in the wood
and they were doing that little thing to get the stick to
friction and they were like, we just need ignition ignition once we get to the point where we generate
enough friction for the business people will quit once people keep quitting it becomes a
self-sustaining collapse a cascade failure of economics and now we're going to see prices go
up i'm seeing i saw more people today post photos of empty store shelves yeah yeah that's crazy to
me that has been going on for so long but you know what i go makes sense when they talk about
a great reset about people consuming too much and and I'm like, well, here it is.
People are going to wake up one day to $10 milk, and that's when things get crazy.
And it's happening at a bad time because winter always exacerbates economic problems, right?
You have transportation problems because of snow, because of ice, because of cold.
Things are just harder to maintain in winter.
So prices are going to skyrocket, not to mention oil prices, gas prices, electricity prices,
heating prices, right?
So it's going to be bad.
Actually, on the drive here, they were already talking on the news about they have noticed
an increase in hoarding tendencies, again, at big box stores, toilet paper, paper towels.
There's nothing causing it.
There's no something on the horizon, but people just feel it.
This is the fascinating thing of sociology.
The people who are paying attention.
The people who are paying attention are feeling it, and people are doing it.
So, yeah, we're headed to some very, very, very dark times.
You want to know how dark it is?
Let me just pull up this story right here.
Two men arrested in New Zealand for smuggling KFC into COVID lockdown Auckland.
Okay, so not necessarily the same thing as economic failure, but come on.
This is the psychotic nightmare dystopia story you never thought you'd see.
Smuggling KFC.
Why is KFC banned?
Why can't you have KFC?
I don't know.
What does that have to do with COVID?
Maybe like they were in an area that you're not allowed to.
Are they in a quarantined area?
Because their quarantines were geographic.
Like you are not allowed to.
Take out is banned.
Take out is banned.
Why?
Because it might have COVID on it.
Okay.
So look, I highlight this just to show.
What the hell is happening?
When they set policies in motion that create a cascade failure, a collapse.
This is just another example of the absurdity of the rules that make no sense that will just cause people to lose their minds.
COVID doesn't live out in the environment for very long.
That's pretty well documented.
That's besides the point.
The point I'm saying is people in government don't know, don't care.
They're just like, burn it down.
Just whatever it takes to make people go crazy and burn it down.
Middle class people seeing the price.
We went to the store the other day.
We were like, we want to get some charcuterie, some meats and cheeses.
We had the shopping cart maybe about 20% full and it was $400.
I get it.
Cheese and meat can be costly.
But a year ago, we filled up a whole cart, including our standard
selection of meats and cheese.
We're not buying fancy French imported meats, like a regular salami and stuff.
We would fill up the whole cart for $400.
I remember a year ago, we filled up the cart, and we had beans and rice and meat and cheese
and milk, and I was like, wow, $400 for this?
That's crazy.
Now it's like the cart's barely full, and I'm like, what is happening?
This is bad.
I have been photo documenting my grocery trips because every single time I go, I spend about the same amount.
And every time it gets smaller.
This last time I filled the seat that the kid sits in with the food that I was buying for myself for a week, and it was like $80.
And I was like, this is not what I used to be able to buy.
This is insane.
And the shelves are empty.
This is something I noticed too.
There's no dairy.
There's very little beef.
We couldn't get cream.
Yeah.
This bothered me.
The end of the world.
Cream for my coffee.
Yeah.
And we went and I like heavy cream.
I don't like the half and half.
It's got a little sugar in it.
I want like fresh cream.
And we went to the store over a month, nothing.
And so I asked them, I was like, how do you have none?
And they were like, it just doesn't come in.
And I'm like, yeah, but you got cheese and ice cream.
And they were like, I guess, you know, they're prioritizing, they're not prioritizing the
heavy cream because it's like a special use case.
How many, how much, like, come on, if you go to the store and you want something with
cream, you're going to get milk.
You're going to get cheese.
You're going to get yogurt.
You're going to get ice cream.
Heavy whipping cream is probably one of the last things people get.
And not everybody puts cream in their coffee like
that. But when you're doing keto,
you know, things like that, you're like, you want to use
fresh heavy cream, less sugars, less
milk particles and stuff. They didn't have it.
So we had to go to a different store and we found
a crummier version that
spoiled much faster.
But that's something that really freaked me out because aside
from the cream were these little stars
they put up everywhere that said $500 sign-on bonus
all over the store.
I put it on my Instagram.
You can watch the video.
I'm like,
yo, something's wrong.
There's a bunch of some stuff.
Like, boy, do they got a lot of canned whipped cream.
But that's like corn syrup or something.
That's not, yeah.
That's oil.
Some of it, yeah.
A lot of it.
Some of it's good, though.
Well, some of it's okay.
Depends on what you're getting.
But I'm like, I just want fresh cream.
I want to eat healthy and have...
I guess if you were to ask someone what they were going to buy first, they'd be like, I'll
take the Ready Whip whipped cream bottle over the fresh cream.
You know what I mean?
So they're not prioritizing it.
Or the store wasn't getting it.
I went to a couple stores, didn't have it.
We finally found a store that did.
We got a bunch.
It didn't last as long for whatever reason.
I don't know.
I'm like, we like the good organic stuff.
I mean, we've been doing this as a country for, you could argue, almost 400 years.
Or not as a country, but as people on this land.
Our economy got to a stage of so well-oiled, so supply line genius.
So it is really Adam Smith in operations.
You know, there's always that expression or that running joke in the economic world of
how many Chinese restaurants can you have on one block in New York City?
And the answer is as many as the market allows, right?
Like there is no rule.
Like we got to the point that, yeah, you could get your fresh
whipping cream without even thinking
about it because all these literally
millions of invisible hands
were all working together making things happen
and all we needed was just this one
big government that thought they knew better
for your own good.
It's going to take
another five years
to recover from this.
I feel like we're in the rat utopia experiment.
You're familiar?
You guys are familiar with that?
Oh, yeah.
No.
So we had Shane who writes our mysteries and tales of intrigue for TimCast.com,
the new shows we're getting ready to launch soon, the podcast version.
And one of the stories he wrote is about the rat utopia experiment
and what is it, the Curtis Richter?
Was that his name?
I think so.
The rat experiment. That's the hope experiment. But the rat utopia experiment and the, what is it, the Curtis Richter? Was that his name? I think so. The rat experiment.
That's the hope experiment.
But the rat utopia was that
he created a space,
put the rats in it,
gave them unlimited food and water
and said, do whatever you want.
And eventually they just went nuts,
started killing each other.
Things got really bad.
There was one group
called the Beautiful Ones
that would just groom themselves
and do nothing else.
They would all huddle in the same place.
Just behavior became very, very weird.
So what you're bringing up now, because I know we mentioned the right experiment stuff quite a bit,
but the point I'm trying to make is the idea that I'm put out over the fact I can't snap my fingers and get my cream,
it's kind of insane, isn't it?
How about back in the day you had to actually go find a cream salesperson or a farmer who had a dairy farm and you'd be like spending a few days or you'd know who the one person was who had it.
And you'd be like, you know, oh, hey, honey, Jim says we should be ready to pick up our supply of cream, you know, in three days when it's ready.
And you just couldn't get it because it didn't exist.
Now we're so used to everything at our fingertips, having an overabundance of food and a limited supply of ridiculous things like cream of all things,
and sugar candies and unlimited water. And we are living in that utopia.
And that is the problem that unfolds a lot of the hyperbolic social ills that the left likes to say
are dividing this country. You know, systemic racism and militants, misogyny and sexism.
And the response often is we live in the, not to say that there are not ills in society,
we live in the time of such privilege.
Henry VIII could not have imagined a more opulent lifestyle.
I know.
I mean, just look at how many pillow options you have.
Just one.
It is low.
Promo code poso. Promo code POSO.
Promo code POSO.
Like the level of privilege we have, the American poor, and this is another thing if you do
any international travel, especially to developing countries or like real poverty in impoverished
countries, which I have, our poor have better quality of life than the vast majority, than
literally half the world's population. Our poor have better quality of life than the vast majority, than literally half the world's population.
Our poor.
And not to say that we shouldn't make our poor more prosperous or allow them to become more prosperous.
But the level of prosperity and opulence and comfort we have is almost sickening.
We went to the mall.
And I walked in and you get to the, like there's a bunch of the doors and it's like you get to the middle and there's the three stories.
So you've got two stories but then it's an even higher dome of glass.
And I was like, man, if you took someone from like the 1500s and brought them in, they would be like, for what god have you created this palace?
I'm like, no, I'm just buying sneakers.
I don't know.
I wanted to get an ice cream while I was here.
That is insane.
You look at these buildings.
Look at,
I tweeted this the other day,
go to the grocery store
and look at how many
orange juice options you have
based upon your tolerance of pulp.
Yeah,
I think about it.
And the people who are like,
oh,
I don't drink pulp.
It's like,
do you think we're going to
abolish fossil fuels?
It's like,
I only do Grove Stand,
no pulp. No, we're never going to abolish fossil fuels. It's like, I only do grove stand, no pulp.
No, we're never going to
abolish fossil fuels because your lifestyle
dictates that I like
Fiji water. Crystal geyser, I don't like
this water.
One of the things we talked about with Alex Jones
the other day was, I think we talked
about it on the show, the chicken analogy I
like to use. I don't know if it was on the
bonus segment prep, so people are getting it. We'll tell you the story, and then I'd like to hear. I don't know if it was on the – I think it was on the bonus segment perhaps.
So people are getting – we'll tell you the story and then I like to hear your thoughts
on this.
So Alex likes to talk about the globalists and depopulation and the one world and all
this stuff.
And I said, what if it's true that we're overpopulating and like yeast in a bottle,
we're consuming the sugars and farting ourselves to death?
And so when we talk about any kind of these conspiracies, here's what I say.
Imagine you have 10 chickens, and chickens like to take dumps in their water.
You know firsthand.
Every morning when I clean out the water, I'm like, why do you keep doing this?
I've hung it from string.
I've put it on blocks.
I've made it so to the point that all you can do is put your beak in it,
and they find a way to climb on top and turn around every morning.
I'm impressed because sometimes I feel like it's on purpose,
and they're smarter than I think.
But no, no, no.
Look, they're smart enough to realize not to drink the crap water,
but not smart enough to realize not to crap in it.
They're the ones cleaning it.
Now, imagine you had 10 chickens, and they all keep crapping in the water. So you go in one day, and you do something to train them. Stop in it. They're the ones cleaning it. Now, imagine you had 10 chickens and they all keep crapping in the water.
So you go in one day
and you do something to train them,
stop doing it.
The next day, five of them stopped
and five of them keep doing it.
Which chickens do you want to breed?
Yeah, exactly.
Not the ones that keep crapping in their water.
So I bring that up
because you talk about the activists,
the environmentalists,
the ban fossil fuels and climate change and all that stuff.
Those are the people in cities who are the chickens crapping in their own water while they're being told to stop doing it and they keep doing it.
At a certain point, someone's going to be like, I'm not going to choose to put resources into those communities that keep crapping in their water and destroying everything.
I would rather invest in communities that are more self-sustaining.
Guess what?
It ain't in the cities.
So it's like you were saying.
These people are saying, I don't want to ban all fossil fuels, but I need 17 variety of
orange juice based on my pulp consumption.
And with peanut butter, everything.
Bread.
And we see that growth of rural America.
I mean, things are starting to shift.
Suburbs are becoming, which is why there is a big push to end suburbia.
Heck, Gavin Newsom, the day after he won re-election, changed zoning laws in California to ban single-house dwelling zoning laws.
So neighborhoods that you could only build a single-family house, that's no longer gone because they have to get rid of that shift.
They need people concentrated in the cities because that concentrates their power.
But people who are able to, a lot of them are going to other states or just like I did,
left, I mean, 18 years in New York, 20 years in D.C.
And now I live in the middle of the country because I wanted to get the hell away from
those policies.
You want to be an environmentalist?
Make a homestead.
Grow as much of your own food as possible.
Tend to your own garden.
I mean, look, if you've got a septic system, in a lot of ways, they're very self-sufficient.
You do have to get them pumped.
But done right, the bacteria can take care of things for you.
Plus, you get well water.
You can get renewable energy sources to offset your energy costs and even remove yourself from the grid.
Yet you go to these cities, and they're the most wasteful they they like the air conditioning cost for some of these cities is so absolutely insane
because they're completely inefficient it's and i don't know if you guys you guys have been in new
york you ever see those big nitrogen tanks they have where they're blasting nitrogen underground
and the vapor is coming up from the ground i think it's nitrogen what i was told and i fact
check man this one because i did this just a scuttlebutt I heard
from like a local guy in New York,
is that the underground cable infrastructure
is so old,
it's overheating and melting.
So they just wheel in big tanks of nitrogen
to blast.
To cool it off.
Yeah, they blast it to cool the cable
so they don't melt.
Wow.
You've got infrastructure so old and decayed
that we are wasting ridiculous amounts of energy
to sustain this system,
and we keep building on top of it.
Those are the people that are voting nationally
to implement rules on West Virginians
who have very little carbon footprint
and tend to their own chickens and goats
and grow their own corn or whatever.
They're the people who will,
and I know friends who have done this,
and I do make fun of them,
so I apologize if anyone listening is that person. They are the people who will Post and I know friends who have done this, and I do make fun of them, so I apologize if anyone listening is that
person. They are the people who will
Postmates a bagel at 9am
to their house, and they will talk
about sustainability. And you said,
you know how many fossil fuels, how much
waste there is that you couldn't either
walk yourself, or just, you didn't buy bread
and make your own little toaster?
No, but I really wanted to have really good bagels
in this one place, and they will spend I know people who have really good bagels in this one place and they will spend,
I know people who have spent
up to $18 for like a bagel
with cream cheese
because that's just what
they wanted for breakfast.
So it's like,
you're going to abolish fossil fuels.
It's like Wally,
you know,
the big fat people
sitting in the chairs.
Oh, yeah.
I know the story
about post-mating the bagels, man.
I've seen in New York
people being like, I've ordered a tea.
I've seen people order a bubble tea.
And I'm like, you had someone come on that little electric moped that consumes energy so you can have a bubble tea.
Yeah, and those are the classes we're building now.
So there's the elite class.
There's the coding class, learn to code.
And we will have this enormous working class.
Now, maybe one day you'll be able to post mates through through artificial intelligence we're not there yet someone is still cutting open the bagel and
putting the cream cheese on it and putting and handing it off to the guy maybe we're what 20
years away from all that being automatic but as of now we still need actually it seems like we
need the uber world the we need a growing unskilled labor which is the not pejorative sense. I mean it in the economic sense, unskilled labor workforce.
And why are we importing tens of thousands of them every month?
Because that keeps part of that economy going and people like it.
I'm thinking about human behavior and you mentioning like maybe we'll get to the point of the AI making the bagel or whatever.
In Star Trek, you know, Captain Picard goes t earl computer t earl gray hot and then
it just appears in front of them i wonder about what humans would do if we had access to that
stuff i think people would gorge themselves to death yes i think it would but so i think there's
a lot of people in this country that have the ability to eat whatever they want whenever they
want because they have access to enough resources to do so and i don't even mean that much money
somebody makes you know mid five figures and they decide to use their excess cash to just eat,
eat, eat, eat, eat.
But there's a lot of people who don't have the money to spend to do that, and so they
end up thinner simply by virtue of not having the ability to buy the food.
What if everybody had the ability to walk up to something and just be like, entire cheesecake,
caramel on top, extra whipped cream, pumpkin spice.
And you could just keep doing it and they would
gorge themselves. I wonder if people
would just, if they really did have that kind of level
of technology, if we reduced the cost
to near zero or did a UBI
and we had AI producing everything, I think people
would be like Wally. They'd sit in chairs
and they'd be like, I washed myself
with a rag out of stink.
You know, that would be an awesome, kind of cruel, but an awesome experiment.
Like, imagine if you had to take someone who was willing to, you know, they had to work from home.
You're going to live in this room for a month.
Here's your job, blah, blah, blah.
But when you ask for something, you're going to get it.
You know, we can't do it instantaneously.
We need a little bit of time.
But, like, it's lunchtime.
What do you want to eat? It's dinnertime. What do you want
for dinner? It's breakfast. What do you want for dinner?
It's movie time. What do you want to watch?
And you would wonder if after a
day it would be like, I want to watch
porn. I want to eat this. I want to eat this.
I want to eat this. And you'd love to know if after the month
the person would come out
dead or if
at a certain point they'd be like,
I feel disgusting.
Like we all do that, you know,
like bachelor party weekend
and you're drinking and open barred,
even at a wedding.
But at a point, most of us are like,
you know what, can I just have a water?
You wonder if people would,
I'd be curious to see
if you could do it with multiple folks,
how many would just become
that gluttonous, disgusting slob?
Five folks from the city and five folks from the country?
Yeah.
You know, just if, yeah.
I'd love to see, I like to think about a certain, I know.
Sounds like a reality show we should fund.
It does.
Now, I know what my tastes are and I don't know what I would ask for,
but I like to think that by the third day I'd be like,
well, I'm not going to have dessert again.
This is brilliant.
But would I?
Utopia Island.
And we take five people from the city, five people from the country, and every morning
they can request anything they want at all.
Damn.
I mean, obviously, you can't get a jet.
The point is, in terms of your living, you have access to any food, any entertainment.
You just have to trick them, as all good sociologists, all good experiments do.
You have to trick them to think that the experiment is about something else.
They can't know it's about their food choices.
And part of this, you can ask for whatever you want to eat.
But the experiment of the 10 of you on this, as you have to build...
No, no, no. It's a reality show.
On this reality show is something else, and they don't know that this is really the experiment.
I would fund that.
I think that would be awesome.
Yeah.
I want to know the results of that.
I would love to see what people would do.
We would tell people, like, the goal of Utopia Island is to perform tasks or do X.
And then, as an aside, we'd say, you know, put in any order for any kind of food you want.
If you have a craving for a blue cheeseburger, onion rings,
anything like that you want to steak, let us know
and we will get whatever food, whatever entertainment.
One challenge.
Because we want people working on the show to be comfortable.
I'd love to see if it confirms stereotypes.
Like does the guy from Boston always like lobster and chowder?
Is the Italian always getting pasta?
I'd love to know if it confirms.
I think region more than ethnicity.
Somebody who grew up in Boston.
So Pasobic is always getting a cheesesteak.
You have to measure for them.
If you eat a sandwich and I see you eating it,
there might be something in my mind where you're like,
I want that.
And if I smell onions on your breath, I'm like,
man, I want onions.
So you'd have to isolate them when they eat
and then make sure you don't smell each other's foods.
Not at all. Literally, at any time,
you can ask us for food and we will get it for you.
Then they might not go with what they want, just whatever
they see in the moment. That's irrelevant.
Well, it might taint the study. Why would it taint the study?
Because you don't know what their real choice...
There is no real choice. It's literally
like when people
are in a group, when people are on an island, that's not the point of the study.
The study is we will give you access to any food at any time of the day.
You let us know.
We're here for you.
Just let us know what you want.
Literally, you name it.
You want tiramisu?
We'll get you tiramisu.
You want a whole cheesecake?
We'll get you a whole cheesecake.
Just literally tell us.
It would be curious to know if your tendency is to be healthy.
I'm not going to smell your salad and suddenly crave salad.
But if you smell my chocolate cake, would you suddenly be like, that smells really good.
Oh, yeah.
I'll have chocolate cake.
People go in the fridge and they're like, what's in here?
Oh, I'll eat that.
But imagine if it was anything.
I'm thinking a Frise salad with cranberry, pine nuts, and spirulina.
There you go.
I think you'd be surprised.
I think there'd be a lot of people.
She's an exotic dancer. It's a seaweed, and it's one of the healthiest foods on earth. Now, here's spirulina. There you go. I think you'd be surprised. I think there'd be a lot of people. She's an exotic dancer.
It's a seaweed, and it's one of the healthiest foods on earth.
Now, here's spirulina.
It's like an algae, isn't it?
Yeah.
Here's the funny thing.
Could you imagine somebody comes in, like a working class person,
moderately, like average weight, and they're like, I can order anything.
You literally tell us what you want to eat while you're on the show.
We take care of you so that you can, oh, I'll take a T-bone.
I'll take mashed potatoes and some asparagus.
He's like, you got it.
We come back.
I'll take a dessert.
You want a dessert?
Absolutely.
Apple pie, ice cream?
Done, done.
Pumpkin spice cake, carrot cake or whatever.
And then by the end of the month, they're like 40 pounds overweight.
It's disgusting.
I think you'd find it.
I think you'd be curious to see if people would gorge themselves if they were given
unlimited options
do you have
the question is
does the human individual
have the ability
to
regulate
regulate itself
or
is it again
we're back to
Lock and Hobbs
or is it the society
that regulates you
is it you looking at me
when we have
2pm check in
that you're like
whoa
you got a little chunky there
you know like am I not eating because-in that you're like, whoa, Tony, you got a little chunky there.
You know, like am I not eating because I see that you see that I got fat or am I not doing it because of my own self-awareness?
Here's another idea.
We also have a plant who does nothing but eat nonstop.
Not slovenly, not like blah, blah, blah, but just being like whenever they see him, he's got like fried chicken. Like Brad Pitt in Ocean's Eleven.
Did you ever notice in Ocean's Eleven?
He's always eating. He's always eating something. So they walk in and he's got like a thing of mac and cheese and he's like, him, he's got fried chicken. Like Brad Pitt in Ocean's Eleven. Did you ever notice in Ocean's Eleven? He's always eating.
He's always eating something.
So they walk in and he's got a thing of mac and cheese and he's like, hey, how's it going?
What's been going on?
And then the guy walks in.
He's got a cheesecake and he's eating.
And then someone says, I'll take a cheesecake too.
And then this person secretly is just exercising full speed.
So they're always looking really good.
But they're always eating nonstop.
We could do it with animals.
We could try.
You know, there are certain dog breeds
that they call free feed,
that people that just leave food
and when the dog is hungry, it will go.
If I did that to my dogs,
they would eat until they threw up.
They would eat the throw up.
They would eat and that's,
and they, like you cannot have food around.
They're very well trained.
They wouldn't ever eat my food,
but I'd be curious
to see if if humans have that like certain dog breeds some do and some can i can i legally do
a chicken utopia experiment oh so we're building the new chicken city yeah it's going to be fully
enclosed because we have a fox yeah and then a hawk just recently attacked and then roberto went
and then all the chickens ran inside so we're like okay we'll do the chicken run we'll do the whole thing covered yeah you can walk in it but you have to go through
the door what if we just let them keep having babies well you know what i'm gonna do i want
to get a big huge maybe like 50 gallon food thing that we just fill up and they just eat the food
and the food comes down and they keep eating it i think it doesn't spoil as long as it stays dry
right yeah i've my chickens i have every now and then gone out
and there's still food in their bowls
because they like to peck at the grass
and they like to peck at bugs. I don't see
them eating to the point that the food
is gone. My dogs, yes.
But the point is,
if we give chickens access to unlimited food and
water, and they keep having babies,
will it turn out like the rat utopia?
Will chickens as different kind
of animal be...
Have different chromosomes, right?
ZW or something? I don't know.
Will they have a different reaction
to a limited space but unlimited
resources?
No.
They stop? The roosters will fight each other.
Even your three chickens that are too
small to be in the public but are a little too big for –
like they want out because their space is getting small.
So yeah, they need – if their space is limited, they'll start getting crazy when they get on top of each other.
Yeah, that's the challenge because we got three of the babies are fully feathered now.
I think they're at seven weeks about.
But they're not big enough to be with the rest of the chickens because they'll get attacked.
That's the problem when they start breeding at different times.
That's why you have to control your roosters.
You know, we can do that.
Because you've got all these different ages and it's too much work.
We let the older ones out of the enclosed coop and then close the door so they're in the run.
And then we let the little ones out in the enclosed section to run and do chicken stuff.
Yeah, it's a tight space in there for them.
We have five black star babies now.
They're beautiful. Special breed. Yeah, the's a tight space in there for them. We have five black star babies now. They're special.
Special breed. Yeah, the girls every inch of their bodies
are black except one of them has one white
feather. What? Nice.
That's a big part of the rat utopia experiment
is the lack of space.
They're stuck in a space. So they have infinite stuff.
That might not be a problem. Like New York.
Right. Your space is limited.
Like Earth. We're stuck here right now.
Yeah.
People keep trying to go higher, but you're still stuck.
Yeah, if we could somehow remove that from the study,
that would be an interesting study.
Might not be any social issues at that point.
I have tried to convince people as, you know,
I'm about two hours outside of D.C.
and I've had a lot of friends come for the weekend
and they talk about how it's almost therapeutic.
I think one of the biggest problems with D.C. or New York or any city
is that many people never get a chance to not live in that environment.
When I think of New York, I think of gray,
like looking through gray air because it's so dirty.
I just imagine the grayness of that city,
and I think it's the break dust.
And the lack of light, right?
I mean, when every building is 70, 80, 90 stories,
you live in the shadows a lot.
It's very hard to get some.
That's why people flock to Central Park.
There's not a lot of sunlight,
especially in the Midtown area.
So, yeah, you're surrounded by huge, tall...
Oh, New York.
People don't understand this.
It's tough.
It's a tough place to live.
It's worth seeing once.
Imagine an apartment where your only window, when you look out, is a brick wall.
Why?
Because it's within five feet of the other building.
There's nothing to see outside your window but a brick wall, and you're locked in there
for a year.
And you're paying $4,800 a month for it.
People lose their minds. It's like solitary confinement.,800 a month for it. People lose their minds.
It's like solitary confinement.
But they don't know.
They're losing their minds.
That's the crazy part a lot of times.
When you're losing your mind, you don't realize you're losing your mind.
It's just things to start to seem.
You get angry at stuff.
You get less tolerant.
That's an aspect of losing your mind.
Getting back to that theme that we always return to of people getting mean.
Just wait and see how mean they are when the prices keep going up
and the scarcity really kicks into place.
That's when you're going to see a lot of mean spirit.
It'll just escalate.
Yeah, if Alex Jones is right,
then I hope you guys are getting out of cities.
Yeah.
Done.
Yeah, people are just nicer in the cities,
and quite frankly, when I go grocery shopping,
everyone's got a gun.
Nicer in the cities?
Outside of the cities. When I go to shopping, everyone's got a gun. Nicer in the cities?
Outside of the cities.
Yeah.
You know, when I go to the grocery store, you know a lot of people are concealed carry.
And it's just nicer.
People are friendlier because they're country folk.
I'm a big proponent.
And like I said, I'm a city kid. I am multi-generation city kid.
I am becoming a country boy.
But I am happier in the country than I ever could have been in the city.
It's just a different lifestyle.
It's funny when you're with city people in the country and they'll point out to you someone's gun.
They'll be like, yeah, that guy's got a gun.
And I'll be like, okay.
Yeah.
They'll be like, yeah, he's got a gun.
And I'll be like, I know half the people here probably do.
You just can't see him.
You mean he's open carrying.
We can see.
You don't need to tell us.
But, you know, I'm not going to pretend to be some country boy either i grew up in the city i've only been out here for a year i was in um northeast ohio i grew up in in the suburbs
chicago falls and i kind of always loathed the country because it was like less technology you
know i like to play video games we'd go to my aunt and uncle's house in the country and it was like
it was just boring there was cows you know there were fields it smelled stinky and there was nothing to do um for me because i was a city boy but then i went
to the city i loved it then the internet came out and now it's like fresh air fresh air is number
one yeah fresh air man i smelled that dank stank for so long in new york city it started to destroy
my mind i mean yeah and silence which i think we as a society have less tolerance for silence.
That's why I...
How many people couldn't get through the entire movie?
What was the movie where they weren't allowed to talk because the aliens...
A Silent Place.
People I know couldn't get through it because it was just...
It was too quiet.
Interesting.
I mean, how many people walk with...
You know what's amazing?
When you see people driving with earbuds in and you don't even put on the radio, it's
just people are
constantly certain our younger people and then it sound like an old fogey you young folks but
our younger people are bombarded bombarded by sounds non-stop internet phone music silence is
is is key to any thoughtful person and you don't find a lot of silence in the city when we go
outside at night we had really weird things. There's weird bugs.
Kind of fun.
There's stink bugs.
Stink bugs are back.
Here's what the funny thing is.
I have the air conditioning on super cold.
Invasive species from China.
I have
AC on full blast.
And it's like 75 outside and 60
in the house and they're still trying to come in and then they get cold
and fall to the ground.
The stink bugs?
Why are you coming
into my freezing house?
I don't understand that.
I guess it's instinct.
They go inside
to escape,
you know,
for the winter
but then it's colder inside.
The good news is
chickens absolutely love stink bugs.
I was just going to say that.
Try to catch them
and they play like stink bug rugby.
You just take one.
They run.
You give it a little shake
so he's stunned. Oh, sorry. This is me. You give it a little shake so he's stunned. Oh, sorry.
This is me. You give it a little shake so it's stunned.
Throw him down and
we got to build one of those mail tubes
where you put the mail in and it sucks it.
But for stink bugs. So we can put them up and it'll
set it over the city.
I get them in my room.
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You don't want to miss the hour and a half we did with Alex Jones yesterday.
That was fun.
That was a big conversation.
We knew it was going to go long because I have no control over the conversation when Alex Jones is in the room.
But let's see what we got here.
I do want to shout out Toby Walker who said, Malort is actually amazing.
OMG.
Well, we have a lot of Malort.
And I just wanted you to know.
Maybe we'll open it on the vlog and talk about it.
What is it exactly?
It is a wormwood liqueur.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, and apparently it tastes really, really bad.
All right.
And my response was like, I think all alcohol tastes bad.
So I'm not sure this would be a special
thing. It's rotten. I took a sauna
a few weeks ago. Yeah, it's like rotten food is what
alcohol is. And then I got out of the sauna
and I felt so clean and I sipped on that beer
and it tasted rotten. It was the first
time I ever sipped on alcohol and it actually tasted
like rotten food. I was like, wow.
Yeah, I don't like alcohol at all. I think it all tastes
really bad. What do you think the sauna did to your taste buds?
It cleaned out a bunch of something. I don't know. Wow. Yeah I think it all tastes really bad. What do you think the sauna did to your taste buds? It cleaned out a bunch of something.
I don't know.
Yeah, it was incredible.
That means that's really...
That's awesome.
I mean, I sipped a little bit more, and I could no longer taste the rottenness.
It just tasted like beer again.
Okay.
Wow.
That's crazy.
All right.
All right.
Dogbert says, Tim, I sent you an email about NFTing your show with Astro Zero NFT.
We would love to work with you.
We're actually planning on doing we have portraits of all
of our guests and creating digital
NFTs of all of the portraits from
all of our guests. They're all autographed as well.
And Ian's working on that stuff.
It's very, very exciting.
We've got like
I didn't see, we have an Alex Jones one though.
We have an Alex Jones one. We have
Polaroids that we take and it's really
an opportunity to create lots of crazy little bits of art and then just sell them.
But basically, I was explaining to somebody how revolutionary an NFT is.
So when it came to cryptocurrency, cryptocurrencies for the most part are fungible.
Back in the day of the internet, you wrote a song.
That song could be copied infinity.
You could keep copying it and sharing it around.
Then cryptocurrency came along and all of a sudden there were hard digital assets that could not be copied,. You could keep copying it and sharing it around. Then cryptocurrency came along
and all of a sudden there were hard digital assets
that could not be copied, but many of them.
With NFTs, you have one
existing object. So you
could make like one of 30. So when we
take a digital version of these portraits that
are autographed, there is only one
digital version in existence.
There's a physical version and a
digital version. And so we're creating the digital version that only one person can a physical version and a digital version.
And so we're creating the digital version that only one person can own at a time.
But someone can still copy the picture.
So you can still save the picture and have a copy of yourself, but only one person will own the original digital copy.
Exactly.
So a copy of a famous painting, sure, people might want to buy it to hang up, but it's
not the original.
Right, exactly.
The original is the one worth 50 million bucks.
So having that original NFT- Sanctioned by the author. That's right. original right exactly original is the one worth 50 million bucks so having that original nft sanctioned by the author that's right all right let's read michael
fernando melo says san jose got worse people pee crap and leave used wolf adult prophylaxis in front
of my home yuck lots of homeless a man was murdered a block from my home i've joined the
bay area mises caucus to Caucus to become a delegate.
Need to leave Cali.
Cool.
Wow.
That sounds terrible.
Get out.
Eeks.
All right.
Let's see.
Shooting on a shot, but a pressure.
Better have care, says.
Yay.
This is for Sour Patch Lids.
Passing up Sour Patch Kids.
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right.
Oregon Life says, Tim, you called me a coward last week.
You live in the middle of nowhere hiding behind a camera, censored by big tech.
Take off the beanie, coward.
I mean, if I was really a coward, why wouldn't I just do, like, political consulting for big networks where I can tell them, like, here's how you build a big network.
Go ahead and lie to people.
Why should I challenge the establishment and put a risk on my neck i'll tell you what if i wanted to work as hard as i do
why wouldn't i just make i don't know like a minecraft channel why bother getting involved
in the culture war and defending liberty and freedom and critical thought there are a lot
of people who um would prefer to chop the tree down today so that they may have a comfortable chair to sit in tomorrow.
And there are a lot of people that would plant a tree
whose shade they know they will never sit beneath
so that their children will have a beautiful tree with fruit and shade.
And just sit on the ground.
Let's just sit on the ground instead.
Yeah, I'm down to grow some trees.
Chairs don't last forever.
What I mean is, you know, people would say,
I am going to sacrifice my principles today so that I can live comfortably today as well.
And that's not a good idea.
If I really wanted to make tons of money, I could have just stayed working for Disney.
I could have said, you guys put me on whatever TV show you want.
I will play ball.
No problems from me.
Instead, I said, hey, you guys are hypocrites
and liars
and I'm not going to lie on camera.
And they went, okay,
well then you can't do anything,
I guess.
And I was like, okay.
And then I was like,
can I quit?
No.
And I was like, well, okay.
And then my contract ended
and I was like, I'm quitting.
And they're like, okay.
And there you go.
So I don't know.
You know, you do what you gotta do.
Billy Long says, joins stream late.
Ian, quote, we could actually have a prostitute on the show.
Oh, you got there right in time.
There we go.
Legamathagion says, Israel has been developing a laser replacement for Iron Dome called the Iron Beam.
It should be up by the new year.
The lack of funding for Iron Dome
may accelerate the development of the system,
and we may see it in action sooner.
Wow.
A laser replacement would be substantially faster
and more efficient.
Hardcore.
You would probably not even see it.
It would be infrared,
although what would happen is the rockets from Gaza
would go pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
Because those things would go ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch.
That'd be cool.
Instantly, it's going nyop, nyop, nyop, nyop.
Yeah, laser weapons,
unlike in the movies,
travel at the speed of light.
In the movies,
they're slower than bullets,
which is the weirdest thing.
That I never understood.
Yeah.
Aaron Tabor says,
birthing persons of the night.
Yes.
Ah, yes.
Agreed.
Thank you.
Apologies.
Apologies.
Latham Craft says,
a real discussion on legal sex work would be interesting.
You should talk to Alice Little,
who is the most successful legal sex worker in Nevada.
Yes, I think it would be important to talk about.
Jeremiah Jensen says,
Hey, Tim and crew, I finally joined the members page on Timcast.
Tim and crew, take off the YouTube filter
and show their real true opinions.
It's a great show.
Everyone should join.
I'll put it this way.
On this show, we are careful about the arbitrary editorial guidelines of YouTube.
But at least I'll say this.
We try to make sure anything we talk about on this show is true and honest opinions.
But if we're going to talk about certain issues,
we want to be open,
and we're worried about getting shut down or censorship,
we put it on TimCast.com.
So there is a conundrum to YouTube being censorious and violating the rights of people to express themselves.
I suppose the challenge is YouTube is the culture war battleground.
It is.
We can say on principle, I quit,
and then completely lose all resources and access and influence in the culture war battleground. It is. We can say on principle, I quit and then completely lose
all resources and access and influence in the culture
war. Or we can say, I'm
going to reallocate a large
portion of the workday towards a private place,
a speakeasy as it were,
and then show people on YouTube, here's how
you find the speakeasy and here are the
ideas where you can go. And more importantly,
when people are like, Jim, you know, you're on
YouTube and you should quit. It's like, yeah, and I had Alex
Jones on three times. I've had Steve Bannon on
twice. You know, they can't do
their own YouTube channel. So at the very least, we're able to
provide some kind of safety boat
where ideas can still happen, even if
people disagree with them. It's not perfect.
You know, I would like to get off YouTube
and we're working towards building up TimCast.com
for that reason. But I still think there's
value in having a platform where we can have guests
like Alex Jones and Steve Bannon who actually aren't allowed on the platform.
They're not allowed to have their own platform, but we can host them.
All right.
Brandon Taylor says,
Have you guys thought to start a record label to add another branch to the culture
that you are building or a separate channel promoting bands?
Yes.
Just not now.
So we have to get to that point yeah it seems like
the age of labels is kind of coming to a close record labels you know trying to snag someone
profit off of them it's kind of a insidious i disagree i think there's a lot of people who are
good at making music and not good at business well that's for sure yeah so they need help they
need someone who can be like as long as it's fair you know they got they got rocked i was gonna say
yeah they got they got messed up by the record industry.
Billy Joel lost a decade of income from his record contract.
John Christian says, Elijah Schaefer and Sidney Watson,
new show already taken down and suspended from YouTube just nine days in.
But a strike or what?
Two strikes.
Two strikes already?
Nine days.
Why?
What happened?
They were talking about child mask mandates
and they showed studies or something.
That's what I saw from Sydney. That's all it took.
Yep, doesn't take a lot.
Start up your website, you guys.
Get your after show going.
That's right. It's the way forward.
Wow.
Nunya
Bidna says, Tim Pool, quote,
Big tech and media won't attack the left
because they'll literally show up
and burn their houses down.
Also, Tim Pool,
the right must not use violence
because it doesn't help.
What you miss in that quote,
Nanya Bidna,
is Tim Pool, quote,
also,
the left controls the cultural institutions
and when Antifa gets violent,
they're defended by big tech and by media.
The right doesn't have
that opportunity
and is fighting an uphill battle.
We're in an era where
after the Black Lives Matter
riots happened,
they lost from,
they went from 25% net support
to three,
losing 7% from the year prior,
which were their gains.
They have generated
a massive opposition
because of their riots.
So the last thing you need to do
is create propaganda
for your enemy, especially when
you know that the right could go outside and wave a little flag and they'll scream Nazis
marched and Antifa can burn down a cafe killing a guy and they'll say peaceful protest.
So when you gain control of cultural institutions, come back and make arguments.
Until then.
All right, let's see john josh fish gerald says tim you definitely have to do a show
for up for us up here in canada we somehow just elected the king of blackface again yep that was
really impressive to me i'm impressed surprised canadians are big fans of that stuff the canadian
people like blackface you know because you know the reason i say that i genuinely mean this
the first time he did it
people complained about it
and I'm like
oh okay
I mean
I understand why they're upset
but what about
like the third instant now
three
is it three
so many photos
yeah
and so it's like
the second time
you can have people
people chalk it up to like
okay we get it
it's bad
but the third time
and they vote for him
I'm like
they like it
yeah
come on
actions speak louder than words they like it yeah Come on. Actions speak louder than words.
They like it.
They're racists.
If you did a show in Canada, what would it be about?
Sorry.
I just had to.
For Canadian friends, I had to say it.
You mean poutine.
Poutine?
Yeah, it's the poutine.
I went to a poutine place in, I think it was in Montreal.
Yum.
And it's just a french fry place.
Like they had bacon cheddar french fries.
And I'm like, yeah, we have that at hot dog stands.
The funny thing is, I'll tell you this.
Poutine in Canada is legit.
And I've gone to places in the U.S. that claim to have poutine.
And it is not legit.
They do have french fries with mozzarella balls on top.
Exactly.
That's not poutine. That's not it.. They do have French fries with mozzarella balls on top. Exactly. That's not poutine.
That's not it.
Montreal is one of the best food scenes in the world, let alone in the country.
The opportunity to work at this place called Dusty's in LA.
It was a French-Canadian restaurant.
Poutine.
They're from Montreal.
Man, that was great.
Cool.
Great poutine.
But I went to a poutine place, and they had barbecue pulled pork French fries.
And I'm like, a lot of that is just putting stuff on french fries.
We do that here, but it was really good.
Cheddar bacon, chicken bacon ranch,
all that stuff. Yeah, of course.
But I gotta go, I think the classic is where it is.
I'm not a big poutine connoisseur. I'm sure all the
Canadian people watching are like, dude, this is how
you do it. Maybe we should make some poutine.
Yeah, it's probably pretty easy to make.
Actually, yeah.
Can you eat fried french fries? Not on keto. I didn't say that. I said we should make them. Oh, it's probably pretty easy to make. Actually, yeah. Cheese curds. Does your diet allow, can you, can you eat fried French fries?
Can you?
I didn't say it,
you know,
I said we should make them.
Oh,
you should make them.
Yeah.
Ian,
Ian made a pawpaw bread.
I tasted a little bit.
I'm not going to eat it.
I would eat,
when I would eat the poutine,
I'd just kind of eat the cheese and the gravy.
I would kind of,
you know,
give you a lot of that.
That sounds really good.
I am hungry.
Yeah,
dude.
Billy Long says,
Daniel absolutely killed it all tonight.
Love the show.
Keep it up, guys.
Ian shouts from Cleveland.
Go Browns.
Thanks, Billy Long.
I was actually just in Cleveland last week.
What did you do over there?
Met a potential donor.
Oh, nice.
For the company?
For my organization, yeah,
because we're a nonprofit.
We have to raise money.
Nice.
I went to this steakhouse called Red,
and it was fantastic. Can people donate to your organization? And Cleveland, yeah, because we're a non-profit. We have to raise money. Nice. I went to this steakhouse called Red, and it was fantastic.
Awesome.
Can people donate to your organization?
And Cleveland, yes, they can at PowerTheFuture.com.
And Cleveland has, as my first time there, has stunning, beautiful, turn-of-the-century architecture.
It's incredible.
Growing up in the 80s, it wasn't that cool.
It was kind of run down, and then there's transformation in the 90s.
Man, I think it was the Cleveland Indians brought lots of money into that city in the 90s.
Some beautiful buildings, like really beautiful buildings.
Oh, great place.
It was great to walk around.
And I travel a ton for work.
Sorry, I know you want to get back to the two really quickly.
I travel a ton for work and all over the country all the time.
They are handling the homeless slash vagrancy problem better than almost any other city I've seen.
I was surprised how clean the streets of Cleveland were,
whereas cities of comparable size, oh, holy cow.
But Cleveland, I was really impressed.
I thought it was great.
What is their leadership in Cleveland?
Are they a Democrat too?
No idea.
I'd be curious.
We've got to find out now.
Yeah, no idea.
Yeah, me too.
All right.
So Varen Sol says, hey, Tim, I've got a friend who does frame
and fact-checking on a daily basis.
I understand you're trying to start a nonprofit for exactly that.
How would one apply?
And how would you say one would demonstrate expertise in order to get an interview?
Samples?
You would apply by going to jobs at timcast.com.
Send an email.
And let me explain the plan.
We've already filed paperwork for our nonprofit.
It will do fact-checking.
It'll do a general analysis of
news outlets, like we're going to take a hundred
articles. We're going to look for
ethics violations
using the SPJ's
ethics. And then if it's
an opinion piece but it's not labeled opinion, they get an
X. If they're falsely framed or
factually incorrect, they get an X. If they try
to harm people, like here's
the address of a man who posted a meme, then they'll get an X. And then you'll see like out of the hundred articles we
read, 37 were deemed to be ethical journalism. And then we'll list a spreadsheet of all the articles,
each with an explanation that you can read and assess yourself.
Now, let me explain frame checking in the easiest way possible. Easiest way. You might believe,
well, you guys probably don't because you're smart people, but there are a lot of people that believe that border patrol
agents were whipping migrants. Why? Instead of publishing headlines that read border patrol did
not have whips and were not whipping migrants, all these outlets said White House condemns border
patrol whipping migrants. Why? Because the White House said, we condemn those horrible photos we saw.
Someone says, did you see the photos of migrants being whipped?
We saw them.
They're horrible.
We don't know the context.
Headline, White House condemns whipping migrants.
Framing it as though it actually happened.
Proper framing would be, no, Border Patrol agents did not have whips and did not whip
migrants within the story you would say the white house when asked not knowing the context erroneously
concluded that that it happened and that the photos were shocking in reality they were not
equipped with whips they were spinning the reins that's it they were holding the reins with a horse
and when they move they spin it i guess they say it's a technique to keep people from getting too close to the horse.
That's it.
So that's framing.
It's really clever things you can do to trick people.
Wait, so they were snapping them with leather reins?
They weren't slapping anybody with anything.
They didn't hit anybody with it?
No.
That's how you steal the horse.
You're saying they do it to keep people away as well?
They're on the horse, and they'll spin it so that people don't come up to them.
They're not running up to them and whacking them with it.
So it's defensive versus offensive.
Deterrence.
But it's like, yeah, spinning the rein is a big cry from having a whip and slapping somebody
with the last grain of their skin.
Defending a horse is different than attacking a migrant.
But these media outlets know that they can legally get away with saying White House condemns
Border Patrol agents whipping migrants because we didn't say they whipped migrants.
We said the White House condemned it.
We didn't say the White House claimed it was actually happening.
You know, it's like I condemn Ian, you know, mercilessly beating children.
Of course.
But I didn't do it, too.
I didn't say Ian did it.
Oh, you're right.
You just condemned it.
You never said I did it.
Thank you.
Right.
Yeah, you know, I condemn it.
Wait.
But I didn't say he did it. You never said I did it. Thank you. Right. Yeah. You know, I condemn it. Wait. But I didn't say he did it.
Yeah.
You made a good point, Daniel, that bad optics, bad media leads to bad policy often and that
they could end up making some dumb rule like Border Patrol can't be riding on horses anymore.
They probably will.
Yeah.
That's the stupidity that can come out of these misinformation.
So, yeah.
All right.
Keep it up.
Yeah.
Jay Tiger says, Tim, with all the union workers protesting again today,
they have shut down construction
for two weeks now in Melbourne.
We had a 6.0 magnitude earthquake.
Who's going to fix
all the broken buildings?
Wow.
Not the union workers.
Wow.
Man.
Melbourne just had a 6.2 magnitude earthquake?
Yeah.
In the past hour or two.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
Like, literally, as we're talking.
Oh, wow.
6.0 is like not that bad
No that's not that bad
That's
That's
You'll feel it
Yeah
Is it like magnitudes
They're magnitudes
Yeah times 10
Every number is times 10
Exponential increase
So beyond
Once you get to 7
You're out
It's nasty nasty
Like bringing
I don't know the full numbers
But I read somewhere that like
The difference between a 9.0
And a 9.1
Is the difference between
Like a 6.0 And like an 8. is the difference between a 6.0 and an 8.9.
Oh.
It's a massive difference between...
Non-linear.
Yeah, yeah.
Exponential gain.
Scalar.
No Legs No Problem TV says,
Just bought a new sidearm here in Kentucky.
Tragically lost in a boating accident.
Oh, no.
As a concealed carrier in Kentucky, that's all you need to walk out with your new sidearm.
Sorry about your job.
That's tragic. Tragic boating
accident. Happens to the best of us.
Okay, let's see what we got.
John Kirsten says, we need Daniel and
Posa to take a trip back to Alaska with a film crew
to make a documentary. Make it happen, Tim.
Yeah, it'd be awesome. You guys want to go to Alaska and film?
Actually, we have
talked about doing it, especially to tell the story of those
people in the Pebble Mine village.
And I think he's interested in doing it.
Oh, I think Jack's coming tomorrow?
Yeah, he's here tomorrow.
We'll talk after the show.
That'd be a great idea. I think it'd be awesome.
Once they have Starlink up and
running, we'll bring the whole crew.
We'll all go to Alaska, but you know.
We'll get there.
I hope.
Mr. Wiggles says, I know you like Star Trek, but I'm a Warhammer guy.
We are heading to a grim, dark future like Warhammer 40K,
where there is no good really outside of you trying to survive.
But in the end, all sides are seen as bad.
Are you guys familiar with Warhammer?
I played a lot of Warhammer growing up.
Yeah, Warhammer 40K has a lot of Warhammer growing up. Yeah, Warhammer 40,000 Space Marines,
Grey Wolves.
It's like the humans have evolved.
I really don't know too much about the lore,
to be honest.
There's this thing called Tyranids
that are like these large ant creatures
that have psychic powers.
That's pretty cool.
Oh, interesting.
Xrunner55 says,
shortages are hitting Baltimore.
Heavy Cream,
is B zip code?
I don't know what that means.
Read the book. Buy zip code. Oh, is b zip code i don't know that means read the book
by zip code oh it's by zip code read the book sex and culture and see how bad things are
interesting really all right yeah i don't know danimal bungee says i would 100 take a kamala
harris presidency over a biden presidency because at least then we could have a chief executive who has something to lose interesting that's a thought sneaky breeze says the republic isn't over yet article 5 was created
in case the feds got hungry with power please try to contact mark meckler to get on the show so he
can promote the convention of states action it sounds very interesting i'm very interested in
that i'll look this up lacey ferguson says joy reed claims
the only reason everyone is talking about gabby petito's death is because of missing white girl
syndrome i can still feel my brain cells dying you know so uh one of the one of the cast uh
castle crew members brett he made a point earlier he was like didn't we just have people riding
nearly burning down the country because a black man was killed by the police. I'm like, that's actually a really good point.
I do think the Gabby Petito story is not national news.
I'm sure it's news in the local area and news to the family.
But when I heard the story and they were like she was an influencer, I tried finding her pages.
And it was difficult because her Instagram got big afterwards.
There's no YouTube presence.
There's very limited social media presence relative to most people I know
who are trying to be influencers.
So I was like, this seems weird.
Terrible, terrible word.
Influencer is such a terrible word.
Yeah, but social media entrepreneur.
I was like, why can't I find anything on this person?
They're claiming this person was like a prominent influencer.
And I'm like, I...
But I guess it's TikTok was promoting it.
Oh, she's a TikTok mastermind.
I don't know if she was on TikTok, but people on TikTok were.
What a waste of mind space, that stupid story.
I'm so angry that that is up and about.
Like, it's two idiots beat each other up.
One of them got killed, the other one.
And like, now we're not talking about the surrender in Afghanistan.
Like, this is something to
twist everybody's focus onto.
Distraction.
When the story started trending again,
getting big, I just Google searched woman missing
minus Gabby, and there's just
an endless list of stories
from all these local outlets where 23-year-old woman gone missing,
25-year-old woman missing with husband,
and I'm like... This one, for some reason, caught
fire.
I do wish Joy Reid stopped getting any notoriety.
She barely has any viewers.
Most of her notoriety comes from people who talk about her and not actually her.
She's an awful, homophobic, racist, miserable, angry woman.
And I just wish she would be canceled. And so I get frustrated when people say,
Do you know what Joy Reid said last night?
Because no one should be watching her. I just wish she would be canceled. And so I get frustrated when people say, do you know what Joey Reed said last night?
Because I just she shouldn't.
No one should.
No one should be watching her.
Tynan Nicholas says went to see Coheed and the used Saturday.
Burt McCracken of the used referred to the unvaxxed as bioterrorists.
The crowd cheered, yelling things like let them die, kick their ass and let's get them.
The rhetoric is nuts.
Stages in genocide much.
Wow.
Have you guys seen the Kaiser Chiefs video?
No.
You have not seen it.
It's the apocalypse, man.
So you have the guy from the Kaiser Chief,
and he's got this big crowd of people in the thousands,
and he goes, let me see your hands.
And then everyone raises their hands.
He goes, wash your hands. We everyone raises their hands he goes wash your hands we all have clean hands and everyone's holding their hands up and one guy's
going like this with his eyes closed and like that's service nonsense and he goes let's hear
it how many of you have pfizer how many of you have madonna he goes let's hear it for the anti-vaxxers.
Boo.
The part when he was like, clean hands.
Y'all wash your hands.
I was like, wow, this guy's doing a
service. These people are
testifying to Pfizer.
One of the creepiest things I've ever seen.
And the crazy thing about it is, when you look
at their faces, when you see the faces of them
like, on the verge of crying with their eyes closed like guys wow i can't get into these crowds man
all my whole life i was a musician and an actor but i can't stand going to shows and standing
there and watching then at the end everyone's like like these monkeys like screaming and dancing
like what the what is this brain that's so weird how people can be like that. Why?
Why do you scream like that for, like, something?
I don't get it.
It's trying.
Yeah.
I never understood that either.
Oh.
All right.
You know what I would do?
You know what I can do?
Here's what we'll do.
I'll book a show or, like, an introduction for one of these groups, and I'll come out
and I'll go, let me get a bah from everybody in the audience.
Yeah, let me hear that bleat.
Bah.
And they all start doing it. Bah.
Yeah, that's right. You're sheep.
Sheep.
Proud of yourself.
Let me hear that bleat.
We should make that a thing. Just get everybody to do it.
Alright, let's see dan gander says tim the ap
is officially censoring negative news re venezuela minutes of the 2019 meeting show a resolute uh
okay i can't resolution to that end introed by gloria la reviva la reva presidential candidate
for the maoist and vfunded PSL, easily verifiable.
It's hard to read when you use acronyms for everything, but you're trying to cram too much into a super chat.
So hopefully I did my best.
All right.
Robert Knight says, I've been trying to relay information to you regarding Evergrande.
To the info email, BlackRock owns a good-sized stake in Evergrande.
Really?
That sounds like really bad news.
I heard they were going to default.
Did you guys hear that
evergrande yeah they've been buildings have been blown up i don't know black rock owns a good size
stake in everything yeah i'm in agreement yeah interesting as i have a black rock in my hand
i know me too all right the jaded kriegsman says tim the great divorce may be a blessing in disguise
it gives us a chance to bring government back to the level that people have more control of it look up bigness is badness the case for a national divorce by fh buckley
it would be bad in the sense that china would immediately you know sweep in and yep start
taking places over china would go to oregon and washington and be like we're going to invest
heavily in your states and they're going to be like done deal right now the u.s government can be like no you can't do these things well to be fair china is investing
in property and they're buying up large swaths of farmland and they're buying up companies and
they're paying off uh professors to leak you know scientific research to them so sure i'll whatever
i guess at this point we don't have a strong enough central government to do anything about
it so maybe decentralization would be the better thing for us.
All right.
Kyle Abram says, Ian, there's a great crystal shop in Shepherdstown near you called the Wings of Dreams.
So happy to have the crew in my area.
Welcome, guys.
We need more entrepreneurs like yourselves.
Build here.
That's awesome.
We are.
Shepherdstown rocks.
What is it called?
Wings of Dreams, Ian.
You should check it out.
I think you called it Shepherds Town rocks.
That's a cool name for a business.
He knows.
Yeah, I agree.
Shepherds Town does rock.
We have a cool rock band.
Wings of Dreams.
Like it.
Nice name.
Dan Boot says, we need to repeal the 17th Amendment and the Reapportionment Act to dilute
the votes in Congress and force senators to represent their states.
I think repealing the 17th is a good idea.
You know the 17th is?
Yes.
Popular vote for senators?
Brilliant idea.
I mean, we've tinkered so much with the original structure of our government
that we're surprised it doesn't work, so we just keep tinkering with it.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, we can make amendments.
That's what they're for.
But I think at this point we can be like, hey, that one wasn't a good idea.
Yeah, we've heard that.
But if your two senators were working on behalf of the governor
for the good of your state.
Well, the legislature.
Or your state.
You would vote for your local state rep.
Wouldn't that be wonderful?
And your reps would then vote for your senators.
And the reason that's a better idea is that people right now can't name who their local rep is.
Right.
They don't know and don't care.
So they're complaining about local issues.
Voting for a senator to go to Washington to represent them to fix issues that aren't going to be done at the national level.
So what you need to do is focus on who your local people are, and then they send people to the federal government.
I think that makes more sense because you're still voting for representation, but it's only about where you live and your specific local area.
Right now, people are ignoring all the local issues, and it's becoming a disaster.
But I suppose the people who want a stronger centralized national power like that idea.
17th was what?
It was in the early 1900s?
I'm pretty sure it was Woodrow Wilson.
I could be wrong.
Of course.
But this was all part of the progressive movement.
And look at what's next now is get rid of the Electoral College.
It is just getting rid of local government.
They don't like local government.
They like big central D.C. government.
Worst president, Biden, Buchanan, or Wilson?
Most people that I know that are freedom-oriented, like libertarians, say Wilson.
Biggest fascistist most fascist
president i i don't think it's fair to say biden yet because i do think history requires a little
bit of of removal from uh that only comes with time so he's as of now he's an awful president
i'm surprised how bad he is i didn't think he could be worse than obama um so i would have to
go wilson but come back to me in 20 years.
Mustang Sally says,
us ladies of the night
prefer the term sex worker.
I know because I am one
and have been a huge fan
for over a year.
Oh, well there you go.
Very cool.
Sex worker.
I like it.
We should definitely talk about that
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And there's some other stuff
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You want to shout anything out, Daniel?
No, Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, powerofthefuture.com.
It's great to be here, and it's always good to talk to you fine fellas
and Sour Patch Lids beating Cabbage Patch Kids.
Cabbage Patch Kids.
Sour Patch Kids. They're next.
Thank you.
Very close.
Fun time.
Yeah.
Chris Carr 17 on Twitter.
Awesome.
It's incredible.
Lydia, very happy for you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Tim built these.
He was like,
I want to see the best paper airplane.
And he wasn't lying.
This is really good.
He actually built a bunch
of origami things over there.
So I'm going to throw this to Tim.
And then Lydia, see if you can change the camera so you can catch it.
Okay.
Oh.
Yeah, look at that.
Beautiful.
That's a great paper airplane.
It really is.
Well built.
I kind of want to see how we do it.
It's a thing of beauty.
Oh, yeah.
That's awesome.
While we were waiting before the show started, I made a bunch of origami.
He likes to origami stuff.
I made a pen holder.
Look at this.
This is, you know what we should do?
We should NFT this official pen holder.
No, we should actually ship this to someone.
I'll autograph this official pen holder for your desk because you know you need to hold
your pen because it rolls around.
True.
But more importantly, it's like tying a string to your finger, you know?
You pick up your pen, right?
And you use it, but then you put it down somewhere and you forget where it went.
True. With the official TimCast pen holder, you just always put your pen right back in the holder,
and you put your pen holder down, and you'll never lose a pen again.
Could you use a pencil in there as well?
No.
Okay, you need a second one.
You need a second one, yeah.
You'll have to buy our second pencil holder made of 100% grade A American paper.
I'm not confident that it's actually
made of American paper. I don't know, it's paper.
Yes, and
Lydia already passed Sour Patch Kids. Yes, me as well.
Yes, I'm Sour Patch Lids here in the corner
and Tim made me this box that I use to put my
lip gloss in. He's very handy with the paper
and I do have to say thank you all very much
because apparently all of you guys follow me on Twitter
which is cool for my silly hot takes.
I really don't tweet about politics.
I try to mix it up and kind of make it life less unbearable.
So thank you guys for following me.
I'm just loving people in the chat like, give me the Pence pen holder.
You're on to something.
All right, everybody.
We'll see you all over at TimCast.com.
Thanks for hanging out.
Bye, guys.