Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #378 - AOC Cries When Almost EVERY Rep Votes Against Her w/Malcolm FleX

Episode Date: September 24, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia join commentator and activist Malcolm Flex to analyze how Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez dealt with an overwhelming defeat in the House (crying), the oil shortages in the UK, the decentr...alization of American politics as the left becomes more polarized, the technical aspects of Covid and the vaccinations, and the governor who believes that nurses are replaceable if the nurse workforce chooses not to get the Covid vaccine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been pushing to defund Israel's Iron Dome defense system. What is the Iron Dome defense system? Well, it is a system of anti-rocket rockets. When rockets are launched from Gaza or other places, the Iron Dome tracks those missiles down and destroys them in the air. It is a defensive system to protect Israel from terror attacks. For that reason, or for whatever reason, I don't know, for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:00:26 AOC wanted to defund this $1 billion taken out of the budget bill so that Israel would not get funding to build their defensive system. Well, it went to a vote. And unsurprisingly, 420 people voted yes to fund the Iron Dome. That is bipartisanship right in front of your eyes.
Starting point is 00:00:46 AOC began crying. I think this is important because it shows you, look, I know a lot of people are probably like, oh, Tim's just ragging on AOC. No, it really does show you that this progressive world or whatever it is, this worldview is fake. That AOC has so much support all over the country and all of this money. And she's so popular with all these followers. And that position held by her followers is like defund the Iron Dome. And then basically everyone in Congress is like, yeah, we're not going to do that. That's insane. And she starts crying over it.
Starting point is 00:01:20 She is nowhere near the average American. She represents a fringe minority. And this is the perfect example. and her behavior is a perfect example. But there is really, really big news as well. Gas shortages, driver shortages becoming gas shortages becoming natural gas shortages, my friends. I hope you're paying attention to this, but we do have a bunch of other news and updates we'll get into. We are being joined today by a political activist, somebody with experience in biological research, I suppose. Malcolm Flex.
Starting point is 00:01:47 How's it going, man? You want to introduce yourself? Oh, don't mind if I do. Yes. So I actually go by Malcolm Flex. And pretty much I am what you would call a mishmash of a bunch of different recurring tropes and themes all rolled into one package but one of the most salient themes that a lot of people see on my social media is that yes i do work in research and biological of the sort which has pretty much become in vogue you know given the recent events that you know we'll probably delve into so know a lot about scientific method about research all you know all that good jazz that people are now
Starting point is 00:02:22 saying that we should trust blindly even though it's antithetical science. But hey, we can get into it. And general news. We'll have a good conversation. It should be fun. Oh, my God. I love general news. Good Lord, it's a break.
Starting point is 00:02:32 But yeah. Wow, man. Thanks for coming. We got Ian. He's hanging out. Actor, musician, social media entrepreneur coming at you. What's up? Talent stack, baby.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I love it. Good to see you again, brother. I love everyone. Here we are. Yeah, and I'm going to try to keep the mood a little bit light because Malcolm loves to deliver black pills and Tim is not
Starting point is 00:02:48 the cheeriest commentator himself. The end is here. I'm mad over people. That's right. Yep, everybody's down and out. Before we get started, recognize the end is here and all this.
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Starting point is 00:03:49 AOC bursts into tears as Iron Dome's $1 billion funding is overwhelmingly approved in-house. 420 votes to 9. Rashida Tlaib is accused of anti-Semitism by fellow Democrat after she called Israel a violent apartheid system. Nine. Nine. That's what AOC represents. She got 12 million followers on Twitter. This is what you need to understand. I'm going to start off and I'm going to give you the hard facts and then we'll talk about this stuff. AOC does not represent her district. AOC represents fringe political individuals across the country who funnel money into her district. AOC represents fringe political individuals across
Starting point is 00:04:26 the country who funnel money into her district, which she uses as a vehicle to sit in Congress. I'm not saying that as to disparage her character, but to point out her ideas probably don't fly in her own district. The things her district cares about, they probably don't know what she's talking about. But as Nancy Pelosi said, you could take a glass of water with a D on it, and it's going to win in Nancy or AOC's district. That's what Nancy Pelosi said, my or her district. So what happens is there's no real Republican competition. There's no strong primary. AOC has too much money from external sources.
Starting point is 00:04:59 The same is true for other squad members. Their politics are popular with fringe political groups, but a fringe political group is still substantive when they can coalesce online and funnel funding to politicians like AOC. This manifests in AOC wanting to defund Israel's defensive system. The Iron Dome isn't bombing children. It's protecting Israel from rocket attacks. Now, by all means, criticize Israel for all that stuff. I'm just saying, Iron Dome, that's the job it does. If you want to defund Israel or something like that, why take away the Iron Dome of all things? Well, that's what AOC tried to do.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And as you can see, overwhelmingly, like, I mean, beyond overwhelmingly, you get to see that AOC is shown what her politics really represent, nobody. Now, I will say, there are a lot of conservatives, libertarians who are a lot of conservatives, libertarians who are pointing out, yeah, but we shouldn't be funding the Iron Dome. Why is the U.S. giving a billion dollars to Israel for this? And my attitude is not, you know, I'm actually partially in agreement with that. I actually think it's a great argument. Why are we funding all this stuff? Even South Korea, even in Germany. That being said, and we can discuss this, it represents that AOC is not in alignment with where most people in this country are when they think about providing support to our allies.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Now, people can certainly say Afghanistan is bad, but Israel is a different story. It's an ally of the United States in a war-torn Middle East that provides stability, and people support that, whether you agree with Americans' foreign policy or not. I think we can see here perhaps just good evidence. Aside from all the stories where you see the media lying, there's another good example of how broken our political system is. I don't know if you guys have any thoughts. I think it was around Occupy Wall Street that something came out and said that Congress doesn't do what the American people want. They do what their business associates want. So I think that this massive 460 to 9 vote or whatever isn't necessarily indicative that the American people want it, but that the politicians and their business contracts want it. I somewhat agree with you.
Starting point is 00:07:02 It is true that Congress, like public opinion typically, does not move congressional votes. But I got to say, man, I do think the majority of Americans want to make sure Israel is not blown off the face of the earth. That's a big, that's definitely a big sticking point, especially just even when you look at moderate Democrats. I mean, they still have a healthy respect for Israel. And, you know, there is still a very big religious sect section of our country. And, you know, Israel holds this specific significance. You know, whether or not you want to debate against that or you want to debate for that.
Starting point is 00:07:32 A lot of people, Israel is still near and dear to them. Now, I have the question, though, for AOC. Why do you want to see brown people get blown up? Like, why? And it's just it's just it's it's a mindless talking point. It is like there's mindless talking point. It is. Like, there's a legitimate talking point in why are we providing funding to these foreign – like, we should – America first is an argument, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:52 We should fix the pipes in our own cities and the streets and the infrastructure before we – but then there's the – like, there's a legitimate argument for the Middle East is horribly destabilized. Israel is a stable nation. They're an ally. I get the argument on the libertarian stuff about funding and foreign policy stuff. Okay, I get that. But we're not talking about sending in troops. We're not talking about occupation. We're not talking about selling weapons to the Saudis.
Starting point is 00:08:20 We're talking about the Iron Dome. Now, if you want to talk about Israel being bad in terms of what's going on with Gaza and the missile strikes, I'm fairly moderate on this one. I do think the real argument comes from the libertarian position, not necessarily just right wing, just the general. Why are we focused on foreign excursions? The founding father said we shouldn't be doing this kind of stuff, and we are. Okay, fair point. Most Americans, I think, recognize that we have international allies and that Israel is particularly vulnerable with all of these different places in the Middle East. I want to blow it up. So we provide them with military support.
Starting point is 00:08:50 And out of $3.5 trillion, a billion isn't as much. I've got to say, if you come to me and you tell me that they want to do $12 million for Pakistani gender studies, I'll be like, that's insane. If they say we think there should be a missile defense system for Israel, I'm like, well, that I understand. Now, I'm a bit of a milquetoast fence-sitter on this one. There's a foreign policy argument versus a supporting your allies argument. The point is, AOC doesn't represent America in this regard. I think she doesn't represent America on most anything. She represents the fringe minority.
Starting point is 00:09:21 She doesn't even go there. I mean, it's an odd position to have, number that you know it's a defensive system as you've reiterated time and time again why do you not want a nation to be able to at least defend itself you okay you can take the side that you want that you side with hamas you think that a lot of people over there on that side have been basically disenfranchised by the israeli government again, that's the conversation to be had. But at the same time, why do you want to basically disarm a group and allow them to be vulnerable to more combat, more injuries, and proliferate the same warfare that you complain about Israel just engaging in?
Starting point is 00:10:04 That's a big issue. So I'll say this too, Ian. I definitely agree with you on the politicians are just supported by their big corporate donors and the political action committees. What do you think would happen if we defunded the Iron Dome? Oh, you'd probably see more attacks on Israel, I would imagine. I mean, that's a vague way of saying what might happen. And what will those more attacks result in with no defensive capabilities?
Starting point is 00:10:27 You know, obviously, like death and destruction of the infrastructure. I think it's a really kind of a structure. You have the infrastructure. I mean, the people will start getting killed. Death, death and destruction of the infrastructure. It's kind of it's kind of like a pie in the sky, kind of an ignorant thing to be like, if we stop funding it, then it'll go away. I mean, you see what cutting things out. Cold turkey over there in afghanistan right again you can say what you want yeah we shouldn't have been over there but now that we're in it again you cannot just leave
Starting point is 00:10:53 it worse than you you know worse than you came in and that's the problem that felt like it was on purpose yeah again yeah i know you said it multiple times they're punishing the anti-war people they're like hey this is what happens when america doesn't get involved people kill themselves stuff happens a lot of really great questions wrote uh have arisen recently which is really things are getting kind of weird right so first people were saying oh we shouldn't be in afghanistan what about south korea why are we there and i'm like that's actually a good point like i understand why we're there because north korea there's still a war and because they'd love to just trample in and they need support it's a good question you know we went there because of basically the cold war these proxy because North Korea, they're still at war, and because they'd love to just trample in. And they need support.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It's a good question. We went there because of basically the Cold War, these proxy wars, and why are we in Germany? Now that, Donald Trump asked, and we all agreed. Why are we in Germany? Let's get out. So Afghanistan, I get the idea of protecting Afghanistan, but all of a sudden people started saying, hey, wait a minute. If we shouldn't be there, should we be in these other places?
Starting point is 00:11:46 And I think a lot of these places, the answer is no, we shouldn't. I think the answer for Afghanistan a minute if we shouldn't be there should we be in these other places and i think a lot of these places the answer is no we shouldn't i think the answer for afghanistan no we shouldn't however i think the answer for afghanistan was don't abandon bagram air force base and provide logistics so that the afghan army can maintain defense of their cities and not let them fall so quick and then lie about it after they're sitting up here begging you begging you for your air capabilities just a just a little bit just a smidgen maybe a drone strike here. Hold off the bad men. Joe Biden, for once, when you're being asked. Ran off on the plug at midnight.
Starting point is 00:12:13 He did the drone strike, but he killed kids. Ten people. Accomplish righteous strike, guys. We did it. We were asking you to use your military capabilities against the guys who were executing the Afghan soldiers. not the kids in the building in the urban environment. So, look, it's the Democratic Party, man. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:33 They're a disaster in this regard. You know what else is crazy, though, is one of the other things that's coming out of this political space with the overt tribalism is now we've even got, I think, in Florida, they're questioning all vaccine mandates where they're basically like someone said oh well you you're saying no vaccine mandate for covid but what about mumps and a guy went okay that's a good point yeah let's get rid of the vaccine and then everyone's like wait wait no don't do that so much too fast we're opening doors that should not be open and again it's just the democrats will push you there you know they're treading on sacred spaces that you know we have had long-standing traditions there you know they're treading on sacred spaces that you know we have had long-standing traditions for and now they're over here trying to erode those traditions and it's starting to cause a lot of people to ask questions like okay so why are we
Starting point is 00:13:15 why are we doing it this way if you're saying that this doesn't work and the truth is they don't have an internal layer of consistency behind the reasoning it's partisan politics at its finest and it's something that you get when you don't have two healthy wings. You don't have a healthy Democratic Party. Let me just say that. And a Republican Party. It's finally reforming under this new populist base. So what ends up
Starting point is 00:13:36 happening is that when one wing is not healthy, it's going to try to choke the other. It's going to fall. And then what do you get? You get single party politics. People like AOC that sit up here and start pushing these friends relief because, again, they got to say something. Well, look at – you look at some of these news stories. Like today there was a story about Steve Bannon. And all these leftists are like, Steve Bannon admits to planning the insurrection.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And then you actually watch it and Steve Bannon is like, on January 5th i was talking about trump to help organize a rally and i'm like oh and they took that and they turned it into him saying like them saying he planned the insurrection and then you get lawrence tribe being like why isn't the doj acting he's confessed it's criminal code blah blah and i'm like they they don't know that the fbi said there was no insurrection or they're just idiots. Now imagine this. A group of people who don't know what's going on, who believe all this fake news and false framing, then going and voting on policy. For AOC, she got a cold wake-up call. Like, hey, guess what?
Starting point is 00:14:35 You're in a cult. People don't want this. Look, I don't like the foreign intervention in forever wars. Israel is different. That's a rock and a hard place for me because I understand the libertarian argument of like let's not just give funding to Israel. What's the point? don't like the foreign intervention in forever wars israel is different i'm i'm i'm it's that's a rock and a hard place for me because i understand the libertarian argument of like let's not just give funding to israel what's the point and then also we're not asking for a military occupation we're asking for an invasion we're just saying like these other countries want to wipe israel
Starting point is 00:14:56 off the face of the earth okay they can get a missile defense system i'm not i'm not necessarily a big fan of that idea but i'm also not in the position where i'm going to be as strong as I was in Afghanistan or these other countries and be like, pull out all U.S. support for weapons and all that stuff, right? It's like, what do you do? Again, you're already in it. You got to actually go win it. But can I just say one thing? We need our top meme makers to get on it. Make a meme of AOC crying with 420 in the background.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Do it. This is for American history. We need this. Come on, guys. Dude, she's legit crying. No, I'm not even playing. Look at this. So she's like...
Starting point is 00:15:38 She's crying. That's crazy to me, man. Oh, God. This Israel thing is so wild. This Israel thing. The country of Israel. Then there's like the Jewish population. And it's like a Jewish state, I think.
Starting point is 00:15:51 So it's like a theocratic state, which is very unique in the world. There's not a lot of them anyway. It's very, very. And then you go back to the Sykes-Picot Agreement and the Balfour Declaration after World War I or during World War I, where they kind of set up Israel, the French and the British. Ian, I got to stop you right there. Theocratic countries, like the majority of countries. Like a religious government?
Starting point is 00:16:08 They have states. They do exist, but they're not, I guess, not unique, but uncommon. It's mostly, most states aren't religious states. They are. They actually are. America's particularly unique in that regard. Well, Russia's not. Spain's not.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Africa. I think you're wrong. Libya's not. Forgive me if I'm wrong. Weren't we founded on deism, or like just having the ability to question but knowing that there is a power? I can't quite remember. We're not a Christian state is what I mean. Like it's a Jewish state.
Starting point is 00:16:35 It's like a Jewish state. Well, they are the only Jewish state, but there are tons of Middle Eastern countries that are like Muslim states, like a lot, a lot of them. I don't know about Asian. Well, like lots of Asian countries as well. There's some Muslim Asian countries. There's India is like Buddhist, right? Yeah, I don't know. The Indian subcontinent is very religious, but I know Far East Asia, you know, they're a little bit interesting because, yeah, they are very like technocratic.
Starting point is 00:16:59 They're moving beyond a lot of unified religion. I mean, you just have too many religious practices there anyways that you can't have a unified state religion. Right, right. And it's not a problem. I mean, sometimes I think what confuses is that Judaism is a religion, but Judaism is also a bloodline. So that's unique in all religions.
Starting point is 00:17:19 There's no other religion where you're like a Christian by blood. It's always you choose to become it. That's true. But I don't think the belief structure of the people in Israel is the issue here. I wonder if part of the strong reaction to what AOC wanted was because of what happened when we pulled out of Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:17:34 You know, in a way, it kind of is because the Jewish population maybe not needed, but they didn't have a place to live. They were like persecuted throughout time for whatever reason, and so they needed a place to find, to live, to settle, and time for whatever reason, and so they needed a place to live, to settle,
Starting point is 00:17:47 and it was either going to be in Northeast Africa, and then they decided to move it to where it is today. I got an update, fact check. 80 countries have a state religion out of 195 countries in the world. So I would argue it's fairly... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Almost half. Almost half. Almost half. So maybe uncommon is a little unfair, but not completely. What makes it unique is that it's a culture and a religion. That's very unique. Judaism is incredibly unique. When you look at the way it was formed, basically the British and the French betrayed the Arabs to form it.
Starting point is 00:18:20 So the Arabs have had this stick about, I want that land. You told us we could have that land. You're treading on thin ice, my friend. Yeah, yeah. Look up the Sykes-Picot Agreement. So the Arabs betrayed the Ottomans in World War I, and that's how basically the Allies won the war. The French and the Germans – or the British and the French won the war. And the French and the British promised the Arabs that area.
Starting point is 00:18:40 They were to leave the nations, right? Maybe, yeah. I'm not 100% sure. And then so when they won the war, the Arabs betrayed the Ottomans and our side won and then they said, sorry, we're not going to give you that land now. And so the Arabs are like,
Starting point is 00:18:54 it's 100 years later and they're still like, you said it was ours. Here's what I say to most people, right? There's really interesting challenges when you have older generations making political arguments off experiences the younger generations don't have i i grew up in a world where there's the israeli palestinian conflict it's a it's literally there's war going on and everybody wants to make justifications for why some one country should should have control of
Starting point is 00:19:16 this land or that country or this land or this state agreement two state agreement one state agreement and i'm like yo i wasn't alive for most of this and over time there's attrition in the conflict was started by people who are long since dead yeah and we're now at a point where you can make any argument in the world you want for land ownership but throughout history it's people and land are conquered and i'm not a fan of war and i'm not a fan of of uh provocation and aggression but at this point, I don't know. And so right now, it's just like, yo, stop fighting. Hey, get a missile defense system so you can stop the missiles.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It's kind of like the monkey in the ladder thing. Something becomes tradition. Originally, the tradition had a pragmatic purpose. But then at some point, people just constantly repeat that tradition over and over and over again until the original meaning was lost even if it doesn't exist but now the question i have is if you support israel but you're also fairly you know conservative does that mean that you support a post-national authority making such a big ruling such as this land should be ceded to the israeli because that's what the league of Nations is.
Starting point is 00:20:25 We fought against post-national authorities like the EU, that whole deal, trying to have this whole one world order type of thing. That's what they tried to establish back in the day. They still want to. So do you support that? Because that's basically the argument
Starting point is 00:20:42 that I hear a lot of times when they say that you support Israel's right to be a country. You say that post-national authority that's long the argument that I hear a lot of times when they say that you support Israel's right to be a country. You say that post-national authority that's long gone, long dissolved, supersedes anybody else's claim to that land. You know, this is a much too complicated subject. I would say I don't support post-national authority, but Israel is a country now. It's there, so we can't pretend like we're not deciding whether or not we're going to create it anymore. It's there.
Starting point is 00:21:07 It's like Afghanistan. We shouldn't have just pretended like it never happened and disappear. We can't do that with Israel. Israel's a real place. We've got to treat it like it. Well, there are challenges with the West Bank. Yeah, because Palestine supposedly is a real place. But I don't have enough knowledge.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I'll get flack if I'm like, hey, the West Bank and the illegal settlements, what's up with that? And then I'll get two completely distinct arguments, two completely distinct sets of facts. And I'm like, this history is so deep-seated that you can actually look up historical sources that will contradict another historical source, and it becomes impossible. Exactly. Too many motivations. We just have to let it play out and hope and, you know, depending on your religious predilection, pray that there's some kind of peace there.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I would pray for religious tolerance among the Arab, what is it, the Jewish population and then who the Arabs are, Muslim population. The United States is so wonderful with our religious congruency that I would love
Starting point is 00:22:08 to see that there. In Israel? I've been to Tel Aviv. You walk around and it feels like America almost. Obviously people are speaking Hebrew and I couldn't speak a lick of Hebrew so I was unable to shop. But I'm walking around and it was just like people going to malls and
Starting point is 00:22:23 there was food carts and stuff. It was just fairly urban and – I say secular in the sense that people wore regular clothes like you'd experience in any major city. I've been to Egypt and when I was at the Hilton, they had a casino and Egyptian citizens are – it's illegal for them to enter. I've been to Morocco. They have these laws it's very very very different so you go to israel and a lot of people are like it's a very secular place in the middle of a lot of religious theocracy i feel like that's almost a prototype and i know there was a lot of financial interest when it came to afghanistan but i feel like that
Starting point is 00:22:59 was kind of the prototype for what we were trying to set up in afghanistan you know minus again halliburton and all the military contractors and, again, setting up that whole Qatar-Turkey pipeline deal, you know, having staging area over that way. Well, how about we move on to a different subject, speaking of the Qatar-Turkey pipeline. See, that's a good one. A lot of people don't know a lot about the pipeline.
Starting point is 00:23:19 The Qatar-Turkey pipeline is basically the basis for the U.S. involvement in Syria. I love bringing it up because people need to know this. The U.S. has been preparing to invade Syria going back well before the Syrian civil war. They wanted to have Qatar build a pipeline up through Syria, through Turkey, into Europe to offset Russian gas monopolies. And Syria said, we will not betray our ally, Russia. So then the U.S. was like, we're going to destabilize Syria, and then there won't be allies anymore. Proxy wars. Surprise, surprise.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah. We needed access to Europe, syria was in the way and then russia and syria said we're gonna have iran tap the same gas well and then send the the pipeline through iraq and it was just like wow basically the u.s had a plan and they were like we're gonna undercut you and this is like war but anyway speaking of gas we're in trouble, baby. We got this story from DW.com. BP limits U.K. petrol deliveries as driver shortage bites. The old company is set to restrict deliveries of petrol and diesel to some gas stations in the face of a driver shortage happening in the U.K. like we saw here in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:24:20 A lack of drivers, a lack of stations. And then what we saw in the u.s was that the federal government comes out and they're like there is no gas shortage and then you're like then why are all my gas stations empty oh because your gas stations are empty but we have gas nationally and it's like yo that's a gas shortage like for me and my family and where i live and then we get this from the economist natural gas shortages threaten government's green goals. The U.S. dollar is backed by energy, by oil, by fossil fuels. People need to understand that the comfort of their lives here in the United States is based on the fact that we print these dollars, we borrow this money, we just manifest it,
Starting point is 00:24:57 and we can buy oil with it. But with these energy shortages, you want to talk about crises? A food shortage is bad. What are you going to eat? But if we have the energy to produce, it could be an economic bump. shortages you want to talk about crises a food shortage is bad what you're going to eat but if we have the energy to produce it could be an economic bump but if we don't have the energy if we don't have the drivers to transport it yo the long fall is coming soon man addicted to electricity i remember i said built upon it are we are we addicted to the chair like that we're
Starting point is 00:25:20 sitting we're sitting on chairs addicted to oxygen no people say, we're addicted to fossil fuels. And I'm like, no, fossil fuels are the support beams which support our civilization that we've built upon. When we're in a skyscraper, we're like, it's unfortunate that we're addicted to these central steel columns. No, that's just what we built to maintain the structure. Yeah, I think electricity is a natural evolution of our species. It is to a certain extent. I mean, again, electricity powers a lot of processes you need electricity just as a mere means of converting you know energy and let me ask you a
Starting point is 00:25:55 question yeah how do we make electricity in the united states you do have to use gas you've got to power certain mechanical apparatuses and those run on chemical energy from gas. So what do we do with the gas? I'm not trying to put you on the spot. No, no, no. You typically drill it. You transport it via pipelines. It's got little substations, way stations.
Starting point is 00:26:17 But then what do we do with the gas to get electricity? You don't have to know. Most people don't. Right? Go ahead and tell me. So we, in gas factories, we will burn the gas to heat water, which creates pressure and spins
Starting point is 00:26:33 a turbine. A large magnet and a rotating magnetic current creates an electric, a rotating magnetic field will generate an electrical current. So, but natural gas isn't the only way. It's not the most prominent. I think coal is actually still the most, the plurality of how we produce energy. Do you know how we turn coal into electricity?
Starting point is 00:26:55 Go ahead and tell me the process. All right, so we set it on fire, and that energy out of the coal heats water, which creates pressure, and the steam pressure exiting the system will spin a turbine. Large magnetics rotating will create an electrical current. So do you know how solar farms generate electricity? Or actually, nuclear power.
Starting point is 00:27:14 You know nuclear power? Yes. Now, nuclear power, that's actually one of the easier ones where you actually split, say, a subatomic particle. Again, it actually releases the alpha waves, the beta waves, but the gamma waves are high energy and you can actually contain that. How do we turn that nuclear reaction into electricity?
Starting point is 00:27:35 The rods are sitting in water, which boils steam pressure, then spins a turbine, a large magnet. Alright, now solar farms. I love this. Now, there's two kinds, to be fair. But early solar farms were giant arrays of mirrors
Starting point is 00:27:52 focusing sunlight on large vats of, I believe, salt water, which pressurized to spin a turbine. Yo, the way we make electricity in this country is figuring out ways to boil water. I was just about to say, I'm sensing a theme. It's salt, molten salt't thorium salt reactors yep they'll boil salt and it'll stay hot for days so you get heat all night and you can boil the water with it we do now have photovoltaic solar fields which it actually the the photon hits an electron causing it to move generating a current and so once we get to a certain level of efficiency, but the simplest way to put it is we generate electricity by spinning turbines.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Getting a large magnet to spin creates a current. So we have tidal energy. This is really, really cool. When the tide comes in, the pressure against the generators spins turbines. You've got geothermal, the natural gas from the vents spins a turbine. You've got wind, literally just wind spinning a turbine. So we're just trying to make things spin. That's how we do it.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Basically, that's the mechanical process right there. Exactly. So I'm not trying to put you on the spot. It's just most people don't know because they don't look into it. And you ask someone, like, how does solar energy work? And they're going to assume photovoltaic, which is true. That's a fair. You ask them about nuclear, and they'll tell you about a nuclear process.
Starting point is 00:29:03 You say coal. They'll say we burn the coal. It's like, but what does that process do? and they'll tell you about a nuclear process. You say coal. They'll say we burn the coal. It's like, but what does that process do? So I'll tell you where we're at. People don't understand what life was like before all this energy. This Extinction Rebellion group, Greta Thunberg. You want to go back to 1850? I mean, we still had fuels back then.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Go back to when our number one source of fuel was wood. And then you're chopping down trees. You're chopping them up. You're burning them for heat and for smelting and stuff and you will see a life you do not want to live now i'm not saying it's not a life worth living i think working in the fields with your bare hands and having a cow or a bull pull the the you know the thing till the fields the till or whatever it's called today we have such an abundance of all this energy gigantic robots do all the farming and we sit back in our lounge chairs eating our ho-hos and our papa johns watching the football game that is coming to an end more calories and more calories in and
Starting point is 00:29:55 calories out but that changes and yeah we built too much of a society around you know it's like when you scale up eventually you have to, create new processes that can help you mass-reduce energy, mass-reduce everything, and again, keep going. But what happens if that energy source gets cut off? You're left with a bunch of useless machinery that just can't even run. And here's the scary thing. We built an infrastructure on this chemical process, notably like diesel and gasoline. If we lose that for whatever reason, these machines, what do we do? Like if you have a worker in the field and he's got a shovel,
Starting point is 00:30:33 and then that worker moves or passes, you find a new worker. The tool can still be instantly applied to another person. But if we lose our principal source of energy, fossil fuels, we have an entire technological infrastructure that doesn't adapt to any kind of other energy. Now, we can start to adapt it. Like, let's say if we start using hydrogen cells and we power things,
Starting point is 00:30:55 we do electric vehicles, electric farming equipment, which I'm sure they do a lot of, probably because I think, well, I'll say this. Tesla is not profitable, is my understanding. The Tesla cars?
Starting point is 00:31:07 Only profitable because they were tax subsidies. Now that those have expired, it's no longer profitable to make these vehicles unless they jack the price up. So if tomorrow, you know, we're looking at these gas shortages across the U.S. and in the U.K. If tomorrow, all of a sudden there's no gas, people can't drive, buses can't run Machinery can't work. Everything we do is stopped. And then we go back, what, 70 years and have to restart our infrastructure on other energy systems or whatever. You can't do it. And then even a transition, you're going to have to double your production of whatever you're basically going ahead and replacing it with because you have to have enough to keep production of, let's say, the batteries that you're going to power electric vehicles. You've got to literally have enough batteries to power what you're using to replace. I know this sounds super circular, but what you're using to actually replace the means of producing the batteries.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You've got to eventually transition those off. Yeah. How do you get the lithium? You lose it. Yeah. That's the big one. That's what people don't get, man. You lose the energy. They're like,'t get man you lose energy we're gonna
Starting point is 00:32:05 we're gonna build a bunch of electric vehicles and it's like oh yeah what machines do you use to get the lithium out of the ground and they're like well we use gas powered and diesel powered it'd be cool to start uh fusing hydrogen helium and making lithium maybe that'll work well that's the next it's element three so i would imagine yeah i don't know if they do it at scale probably not i would imagine fusion creation i know they do um they can make diamonds by uh put seed in carbon and then having a neon gas or something works yeah yeah i think science can save us i think uh that that's why i like the original idea of the green new deal i'm like that sounds cool you know we we allocate taxes towards uh building new energy infrastructure could help help make America energy independent.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Energy independence means a wealthy and strong America. And then I'm like, I like the sound of this. And then AOC comes out and says, the Green New Deal. And I'm like, okay. And then she goes, is free college for people who aren't white and health care? And I'm like, wait, what? That's Paul Goodson in a nutshell. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:33:01 Good idea. Poor execution. Fizz.org. Researchers simulate compact fusion power plant concept. I mean, we are there, right. Good idea. Poor execution. Fizz.org. Researchers simulate compact fusion power plant concept. I mean, we are there, dude. Fusion. Fusion. Fusion. Where is the media talking about fusion? Why do they want to
Starting point is 00:33:13 sell this oil so much? I mean... Return on energy investment is substantially higher than what we can predict out of fusion. And it's portable. You know, oil's portable. You take a look at what's called energy return and energy invested, and oil is the best. Actually, I think nuclear is the best, but the left hates nuclear power, so we can't get it. I know the problem is the word nuclear because fission historically was pretty dirty, but fission's a completely different process.
Starting point is 00:33:42 They shouldn't call them both nuclear. Yeah, but we're not there with fusion yet. Will we ever be? We've always been like five years away since like the 80s. How do you take it from pre-production to actual production for the big time if you still have these challenges? That's the question that you actually have to ask with fusion. Like what challenges?
Starting point is 00:33:58 So typically with fusion, I think that to reliably – it's kind of like what Tim said. When you actually deal with energy costs, it's kind of like what Tim said, you know, when you actually deal with, like, energy costs, like, it's an extremely expensive process. I think I remember, if I'm not mistaken, with fusion, where they actually use magnets and they actually force the molecules together and, again, or they actually force the subatomic particles together and it releases the energy. But I think that it just takes so much energy to actually do that, that again, you're going to lose out. They'll do like heavy water,
Starting point is 00:34:29 which is called deuterium oxide. It's, it's a hydrogen H2O, but the hydrogen has an extra neutron. So it's heavier and they put it inside of a palladium lattice. And then they, they, they,
Starting point is 00:34:38 they do something. I think they electrify the palladium and it causes the, whereas hydrogen is so light, it will fly away from itself when they aim it. But because the heavy water is heavier, they can ram it into itself and create helium. That's one way they can do tabletop fusion. And then what happens, I guess, is the system causes some kind of vibration that they have to figure out how to capture. So right now, what's happening is they've reached ignition.
Starting point is 00:35:03 But that's like... you ever try and start a fire with a torch and you're holding the torch on the wood and the wood starts on fire and you take the torch off the fire goes away you need to get the energy levels to enough where it's self-sustaining and we're not there yet so fusion sounds fantastic but nuclear energy is probably our path out of this the only problem is you've got an activist left that won't let us do it. Vision, yeah. There's Three Mile Island and what else? The Russian nuclear plant
Starting point is 00:35:31 that went down. Substantially more people have died from coal mining than from nuclear energy. And I get it. Fukushima is really, really bad and had devastating consequences we probably won't even know about
Starting point is 00:35:40 for a long time. But that just means we need better safety standards. It means we need better adaptation for nuclear technology. People seem really afraid of the unknown. And when it comes to nuclear, you can't see the radiation, whereas coal, you can kind of like see the smoke,
Starting point is 00:35:52 so you know what it is. But with like COVID, for instance, you can't see it. With radiation, you can't see it. So there's this like fear about the things you can't see. That's the tough part. Is it in me or is it not? I don't know. So that's even worse.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Well, I i mean we've uh you know we predicated the whole society on surviving based on calculating the unknown to the best of our ability and so again when you kind of step outside of that and you leave it to chance you know especially with something like energy and you know nuclear energy to begin with you know if you fail to just safely dispose of those rods when you're doing fission or you don't cool it properly again, catastrophic circumstances, do you really want to leave that human error to one
Starting point is 00:36:31 miscalculation or just let's say a worker that's just very ambivalent about his job doesn't go through protocol properly? I read a crazy story once where some diver got sucked into a nuclear cooling system intake tube and he was swimming in the nuclear pool totally fine because radiation can't go
Starting point is 00:36:51 through water yeah so he was like at the top and they saved him and he was like i had this theory about recovering nuclear waste the corium is the core is called corium it melts when there's a meltdown it's it's producing so much heat the heat's not getting out of the core so it keeps getting hotter and hotter and hotter and then it melts, and it goes through the thing that's holding it down into the ground, through the ground. But what I was thinking is if we put some sort of superconductive metal in it, then it would allow it to release its heat. So like gold. If you poured gold into a corium, then I would imagine that over time it would start to release its heat, and then you'd have hardened corium gold thing and then you could maybe retrieve the gold that way maybe there's some infrastructure utility company sitting there going ian has just solved the problem we need to get
Starting point is 00:37:33 done your research on it yeah there's i was looking at the temperatures of gold gold's a good one there are other um conductive uh platinum metals that might work as well but then you got to get in there so you need like drones and most of the drones, they power down when they get so close to that heat. But then what do you do with all the constantly destabilizing isotopes and all of that? They continue to fission off. They've been recycling this stuff. I think like 99% recycled. Really?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Yeah. So the technology that most people are complaining about when it comes to nuclear is from the 70s. And we've greatly improved. I mean, I think thorium salt reactors have been prominent about when it comes to nuclear is from the 70s. And we've greatly improved. I mean, I think thorium salt reactors have been prominent for some time. People have been discussing the possibility. It's already melted, like you were mentioning, like melted salts or whatever. So, I mean, it seems like we have a path towards better energy generation to avoid the problem of carbon emissions. But this is the strangest thing.
Starting point is 00:38:22 You get these people like Greta Thunberg yelling, how dare you, demanding that we cut all fossil fuels. And we're like, I think nuclear energy would work. And they're like, no, you can't have that either. It's like, do you want me to live in the woods? I'll chop down trees. That's exactly what they want. That's exactly it. They want us to go carbon negative. And I mean, the deal is, again, there's no way to stop this whole climate change bugaboo that you want to let you go carbon negative, which basically means that you have to start destroying a lot of manufacturing because you can go carbon neutral. What do you think they're doing? It's unfortunate because you can withdraw.
Starting point is 00:38:52 You can take the carbon out of the atmosphere and deposit carbon dioxide onto other metals like palladium and then create graphene oxide. So you can actually pull the carbon dioxide out of the air. We'll end up competing with trees because I think we're going to start doing it. You mean pull the carbon out of the air? Yeah, we'll start mining the carbon out of the air, and then the competing with trees if because i think we're going to start pulling the carbon out of the air yeah we'll start mining the carbon out of the air and then the trees are going to be like hey balance it out we can't build an entire infrastructure around taking the carbon dioxide away but that's better than destroying industry because we're gonna have to learn how to make synthesize oil in other ways like super pressurized
Starting point is 00:39:19 dirt we've done that we've grown algae and then made petroleum from algae burn it off recollect it i was listening to this podcast called like – what was it called? Stuff You Should Know. No. What is it? Yeah. I think it's Stuff You Should Know. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Maybe I don't want to – That's a really big one. Yeah. And they were like – it's like three guys or something. And this was a couple of years ago. They were like, what are we going to do when there's no more – fossil fuels are dead dinosaurs. What do we do when there's no more?
Starting point is 00:39:43 And the one guy goes, there's not going to be any more dinosaurs dude and i'm like wow people listen to this stuff i was did you guys fossil fuels are not dead dinosaurs please please did you guys hear about these nuclear batteries they're taking uh spent nuclear waste and putting it inside of carbon glass like carbon diamond glass and it's's producing basically like 10,000 years of electricity out of it. It sends these particles out. I'd have to see that. Oh, yeah. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Let's see if I can pull this up. This came out last year. Batteries that never die? Nuclear batteries. It's all over. If you look up nuclear batteries, you'll see tons of stuff on it. 10,000 years. So not never.
Starting point is 00:40:18 In the grand scheme, they'll be like, they only last 10,000 years. We live for 900,000, so it's not good enough. New approach to carbon-free tech and it recovers nuclear waste that's one of the cool things about it that sounds awesome now the question i have to ask though is again is the carbon really as detrimental as they keep saying because i think they said back in what was it 2012 that we were past the anthropogenic tipping point of carbon to where there's no way we can recover everything set in motion and this added third so i have to ask my i have to pause and just ask and again i'm not an energy expert but you know by any means but haven't we already hit the point to where you know if something was going to happen based on all the carbon buildup and atmosphere
Starting point is 00:41:00 like aren't we there and hasn't everything still been okay and you know obama's still buying the beachfront property and all of that you know like there's a certain level of trust that's been eroded in what these people are saying to where should we really be devoting a lot of energy towards you know all these emission standards when we cut our manufacturing we cut our industry and then china is basically over there producing all the dirty energy they want, and you can see the clear financial impetus for it. So, like, is it really that important? I got this website, Energy Live News.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Never heard of it, but they say eternally charged smartwatches to become real with nuclear waste-powered battery could last up to 28,000 years. They say the battery for the smartwatch will last eternally for its entire lifetime. We should have this smartwatch released within 18 months. That's cool. Then you can put those in your car. You'll be able to put those.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Maybe you'll be able to stitch them into your clothing. Why couldn't you have a smartphone that just never died? Exactly. That, to me, that's crazy if that's true. Yeah. Then they wouldn't make all the money selling you to PowerBlock separately since they don't put them in the boxes anymore. Are they going to be able to contain the radiation so you don't die? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:42:11 These things are really cool. These nuclear batteries are a big deal. Dude, I got, I mean, look, I got to make this call, get these dang tweets off. I can't be concerned about those minute details, guys. Come on. It's way more important. So couldn't you just hook up like one of those batteries to the outside of your house? Because I know they're talking about Tesla batteries, and I don't know if there's like a similar application.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Theoretically, yes, you could. I don't know. You have to have a really, really big version. A smartwatch is tiny. Right. The nice thing is it encourages nuclear power because you're going to create more nuclear waste that you can convert into batteries after you're done with the power plants. It's just kind of like what Tim said, you know, with the example of, again, the use of turbines. All of our energy production methods just scale off of one simple theme
Starting point is 00:42:52 that once we unlock it, again, we can continue to just scale it up and innovate and turn it into something new. But, man, we're asking too many questions. The EPA is going to start knocking on our door. EPA, open up. As far as I know, these aren't steam. I think they release alpha particles that vibrate. You can look them up on Wikipedia.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I know they give you a nice kind of a visual overlay of what happens inside the battery, how it releases these particles outside through the carbon glass, catches the energy. I'm not sure if it's using piezoelectricity or not. Sounds like an opportunity that we're not going to get to because the left doesn't want nuclear power. Come, expert, come. Join us. It's our progression. Yeah, what is it, big business?
Starting point is 00:43:31 They're like, no, let's just stick with what we got, ride it out. We're cool on that. We could have infinite energy, but I think we're okay. I'll tell you, it feels like what the left does, they accuse the right of all the time. They project.
Starting point is 00:43:47 So the left has big business interests driving a lot of their agenda. And then they accuse the working class rural guy who's like, I want to vote for the guy who's going to end the opioid crisis. And they say, you're working for big pharma. It's like, I literally don't want people buying this medication while you're promoting massive no liability contracts. Bingo. Bingo. And I mean, again again you got to think about it if you were an evil well not even evil if you just wanted profit at all costs you wanted everybody thrown off your trail and you have control of all of the mass media apparatus wouldn't you just project wouldn't you just you know publish falsities and say your
Starting point is 00:44:20 enemies are doing that given how you know humans are devolving to the point where we're exhibiting a lot of tribal behavior, a lot of our primitive urges we're kind of getting into and that whole tribal behavior of, this other guy's wrong, we're right, we're going to fight you tooth and nail, there's no discussion in the middle. That's what they're taking advantage of.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Like I mentioned on the Russell Brand interview I did, he put up a segment about Civil War, and the comments were right-wing people saying Tim Pool's a leftist and left-wing people saying Tim Pool's right-wing. I'm like, isn't it amazing? There's no middle. You're either with us or against us. Exactly. And that's where we're going. I will say, though, you take a look
Starting point is 00:45:00 at independent voters, I can have a conversation with... I'll throw it back to when i went to sweden you know when paul joseph watson was like i challenge a journalist to go to sweden or whatever and i was like i'll do it and he was like i was kind of just taking a piss and i was like i'm gonna do it anyway and he's like all right i'll donate to your thing and then his whole attitude was very much like crime is really really bad and i said well it's not that bad um it is worse it's worse than it's been but it's way worse than america the thing is it's
Starting point is 00:45:25 relative the people in sweden they saw one murder the prior year now it's 13 that to them that's that's massive i mean that's a 1300 increase so they're freaking out but it's not like there's a war zone going on and the response from paul on enforce is like oh interesting yeah i hadn't considered that thank you tim and i'm like what am i supposed to do when the guys at info wars are the ones being like oh well how about that it's the people on the left being like, you're a liar and you're crazy and I won't talk to you. So it makes it impossible. I mean, look, I'll tell you this. We've invited a ton of lefties to come on the show.
Starting point is 00:45:54 We say it all the time. They won't do it. They just don't do crossovers. Maybe with some libertarians, but I guess – you know what I think it is? I think it's we fact-check in real time. We have NewsGuard certified sources, which has a a bias but we use that specifically to be like hey we're using a biased source on purpose microsoft for instance and uh if any one of these people comes and sits down they're going to get roasted yeah talking points don't work again and unfortunately the
Starting point is 00:46:19 left is you know their whole deal is closing ranks. They hand down their ideas like doctrine, whereas I think the right is still kind of open source to it to a degree because the right goes by principles more so than doctrine. That's a good point. Whatever the – there's two factions, and it's the centralized and the decentralized. That's really basically what it is. I mean, that's how the populists took over, and that's why, you know, the Democrats, democrats you know they're beating back the leftists with sticks yes they capitulate every now and again because it's just trendy and you've got these kids that don't know any better and they want to get them on board but at the same time you know the right won their revolt and took over the republican party largely even if it's just for show even if a lot of the politicians you know you just you get a lot of
Starting point is 00:47:03 these old and these old these old guard republicans that are now adopting the whole populist message but even if it's just for show trick primary i'm get them out yeah yeah you want you want me to vote republican okay primary all these guys yeah all of them get them out and i'm pretty sure everyone on the trial the trump supporters agree yes rhinos out i i do think it's fair to, I think it's unfair to call them RINOs, though, Republican in name only, because I'm like, the truth be told, the Republican party and the majority are do-nothings.
Starting point is 00:47:33 It's like the one or two guys, like Rand Paul, maybe, who's going to do something different. So he's the one who's only Republican in name. He's more libertarian in principle. At the beginning of the show, I was thinking I feel like American politics has, is different now. Like, it's still the same suit american politics but whoever's wearing it is like because we're in the age of social media and popularity contests now i don't think that
Starting point is 00:47:54 term that these endless terms work anymore it's too it's too easy to get super popular and then have like totalitarian control basically so we've really got to kind of you know reboot or re-evaluate or transition there's probably better work i get what you're saying and i mean it's happening to an extent the democrats they run their party in a very 90s to 2000s era kind of way that's why they focus on big media corporation and all that whereas the right has already evolved so the left is still the left and i when i say left i don't mean the true left i mean this neoliberal establishment they are still operating in the clintonian era where you know you go up you get a celebrity to say
Starting point is 00:48:35 some good things about you and then you know you dance around for the camera and then you go back to your dark room but remember when hillary clinton was campaigning and she put on a southern drawl when she was in Alabama or wherever she was? Like, yo, we have the internet. Back in the day, you could do that. Back in the day, the politician could go to Chicago and be like, I'm just like you guys. I got a garage door open there just like you. And they could go to New York and be like, yo, you vote for me and both of these guys are getting out and I'm going to wipe these guys out.
Starting point is 00:49:01 And it worked. People would be like, hey, he sounds like me. Now, when you do that, they're like, why are you talking different aoc actually did it remember when she like she put on like a spanish she put on a spanish accent yeah and then people were like yo you don't sound like that and she's like i wasn't putting on an accent that's just because i'm bilingual and it's like dude it it worked when we were only newspapers it would be like hillary clinton came and said these words but if you actually heard it she tries to imitate the people there she did that in her campaign doesn't work these are different times you can't do that stuff
Starting point is 00:49:34 but they still think it's 20 years ago why well nancy pelosi's what she 80 something years old how old is she one i think diane feinstein's 90 isn't she that's yeah at some point you know these politicians they reach their shelf life. And, you know, I think the GOP, a lot of the old guard politicians in the GOP are really about to probably bow out. Just because they see the writing on the wall. And it is good. But the issue is the right has a very big talent scouting program. Think about this. Or, I mean, a talent scouting,
Starting point is 00:50:05 or an issue with their talent scouting program where a lot of the people that you see come up on the right, you know, they don't get a lot of these people that are out on the forefront on Twitter making memes, spreading this information. A lot of these non-Blue Check but big-name influencers, they don't scout those people. They get the interns,
Starting point is 00:50:23 the people that work for somebody that they know to come up the yes men and that's who they put in and these are anti-charismatic people they don't quite understand or relate and it's like getting somebody like marjorie taylor green you can say what you want about her q stuff and all of that but she's different you know what i can't stand republicans they'll wear suits, I get it. Democrats in Congress are wearing suits, but like conservatives, like mainstream conservatives show up to events wearing suits. 19-year-old kids wearing suits. I'm like, you are not relatable to a regular working class person. Nobody wants that guy. And it's like you have all this talent right here, but you keep on picking the same old, same old.
Starting point is 00:51:01 And then you're wondering why you're getting stomped out by these people that are using twitch streams and they're sitting up here they're they're reaching out to the kids and they're inspiring youth to become leftists you know i think a lot of people conservative pop that are really successful people that happen to be conservative go into business they don't go into politics that's that's a big thing too and you know that's that's honestly the cycle that politics should follow is that you should become very proficient in something else in life. And then once you've done that, once you've accomplished all that you want, then go into politics. That sounds pretty similar to what Trump did. Trump had already made his money.
Starting point is 00:51:34 He had already become a business magnate. He had, you couldn't bribe him because he already had everything. So what do you want? He wanted the accolades of going into politics. And now when you have that motivation, you're not out here trying to sell out that highest bidder. You're not out here trying to wear a bunch of corporate brands. You're just trying to get your legacy. You know, you're just trying to get your legacy through.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And that's why I didn't understand why they did not like this guy. Like it's an insurance policy. Trump gets in. If he does bad, his brands suffer. People remember Trump as, oh, you remember that guy that got in and he just ruined everything kind of like what we said about joe biden like trump would not he wouldn't allow that to happen so that's why i just didn't get that but that's the cycle that politics is supposed to follow but you miss trump yet i sure could go for some mean twits right. I would take 20 mean tweets. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Fire them all. He's looking good. Yeah, he's losing weight. Cut off the fast food. Yeah, something like that. I remember 2019, man. Best economy. People were cheering.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Jim Cramer was like, best numbers of our lives. COVID happened. I can't blame Trump for COVID. I know. You know, he was going along with it. He should have fired Fauci. There's a lot of things he could have done better,
Starting point is 00:52:42 but it's a natural disaster of sorts. Part of his issue. But under his administration, in the first few years, I mean, things were skyrocketing. Yeah. The economy was through the roof. Booming. Business was booming. Now where are we?
Starting point is 00:52:54 I mean, Trump didn't start any wars. He was trying to get our troops out of the Middle East. He made some absolute foreign policy mistakes, often with drone strikes, military strikes, missile strikes, commando raids, et cetera. But nothing ever came out of him. But the last couple of years, he was like, he's pretty good. I'm like, all right, you know, Donald Trump's got a potty mouth. But this ain't bad.
Starting point is 00:53:12 And then when Joe Biden comes along, I'm like, I'll take the potty mouth. Plus, Trump's second term agenda was legit. He had like school choice on there. Now we're nine, eight months in. And it's like Democrats voted for this. We've got the border crisis. We've got the Afghanistan withdrawal problem. We've got an economic crisis.
Starting point is 00:53:30 We've got the eviction crisis. We've got job shortages, fuel shortages, food shortages. Holy, Joe Biden screwed all this up. I won't blame him. The economy was on its way down, even though they gave it that one last ride before they started printing the other. We were already at $18 trillion in deficit. But the rhetoric around lockdown has definitely accelerated. It made it worse.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And again, there was nobody to take the DeSantis approach and just say, hey, guys, let's stop this. Follow me. Trust me. Let's not lock down because that's going to kill us where we're at. And there's a difference between the debt and the economy. The debt's a problem. It means we're going to see inflation. The government is overspending.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It's overexerting itself. But when you have debt, the train is still moving. It's causing problems and it's bad. But when you just stop everything, that was the Democrats. Now, again, Donald Trump should have fired Fauci. Donald Trump was all about 15 days to slow the spread, but it was mostly Democrat governors who went hardcore. Trump does deserve some of the blame for the COVID response. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Could have fired Fauci. Could have said no to a lot of this stuff. Thought he was doing something good. He was like, I'm going to race a vaccine out as fast as possible, everyone. Yay. Well, that was part of the issue, though, that we took a vaccine-centered approach. Again, Trump's original idea with the red and green zones or however they did it again just testing rapid testing that was a much better approach rapidly test the individuals you know make sure number one the fact that we're still
Starting point is 00:54:55 using pcr is just you know it's in the front because pcr didn't detect whether or not you're carrying a viral load that you can actually transmit a rapid test would be very much suited towards that because that basically gauges your load whether or not you're carrying a viral load that you can actually transmit. A rapid test would be very much suited towards that because that basically gauges your load, whether or not you can actually give somebody COVID or you can't. And then you quarantine the people, basically tell them, hey, go ahead and do this. Stay away from these people. And you keep everything moving. The fact is we took a vaccine-centric approach where we wanted to lock everything down until we got vaccines. Well, we got them.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Well, hold on. approach where we want to lock everything down until we got vaccines well we got them well hold on we wanted to lock everything down for 15 days to slow the spread so hospitals didn't overload within 15 days it turned into just a couple more weeks then it turned then it became just until we've stopped covid then it's like we'll get the vaccines don't worry once we have the vaccines then we're back to normal then we get the vaccines and they're like, you've still got to wear your mask if you get the vaccine. Then they're at the point where they're like, look, we need everyone to do weekly tests, and if you don't want to do a weekly test, get the vaccine. Now we're at the point
Starting point is 00:55:52 where they're like, even if you've gotten the vaccine, you need a weekly test. That's at University of Arizona. Are they still doing PCR tests? Yes. So this is like your expertise. You're saying these PCR tests are not accurate, not as accurate? Well, it's not that they're not as accurate. They get trace artifacts, and they basically do a polymerase chain reaction
Starting point is 00:56:10 where they actually recreate the COVID particle using the other strand to the base pairing on that RNA. So they can tell if you've had COVID or if your body's reacting and you've got the antibodies, but they don't know if you're actually able to transmit it or not. They can't tell viral loads, so you could be asymptomatic with a very limited load, but they don't know if you're actually able to transmit or not. So they can't tell viral loads. So you could be asymptomatic with a very limited load and they can't see that. So they need different tests.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And I think it's really obvious they went to this direction of even if you're vaccinated, you got to get tested. Because I said this a couple of weeks ago, how does it make sense that you're going to be like, you can't come to the movies unless you're vaccinated or get weekly tested. And I'm like like breakthrough cases exist and people who have breakthrough cases can transmit to the same degree as someone with like who's not vaccinated once you get once once you get covid your chance of transmission is like equal regardless of vaccination status but those who are vaccinated are much less likely to get that's what they're saying but if that's still the case they can
Starting point is 00:57:02 transmit it then doesn't everyone need to test but they were like no and i was like okay now here we are university of arizona is the first to be like yeah everybody get your test so do you know so now that this delta variant is out are they still vaccinating for the original variant even though there's a new variant that's traveling so when people are getting sick with covid are they actually as put in in quotes are they getting sick with a variant that the vaccine is not prepared for? There's all sorts of different variants of, you know, COVID. And the difference is that you can have a variant of COVID that literally does absolutely nothing. Like if you go ahead and you look at the sequencing data on GISAID, you'll see so many different, like on GISAID where they share the actual data from the PCR tests and from like people that they actually confirm positives.
Starting point is 00:57:47 They can tell you what prevalence that specific strain is. They've got a bunch of them and it's a bunch of different areas of sharing that data. So you have variants that do absolutely not, you know, nothing over the actual version. That's natural because the RNA virus, you're going to get, you know, single nucleotide polymorphisms where, again, a code, you know, one of the base pairings skips or one of the base pairings omits and it's not the right one. And so the question is, what does the Delta variant do? Do we even know?
Starting point is 00:58:20 Because a lot of people say that it's more transmissible, but you got to think the Delta variant started coming around right as everybody started getting COVID apathy. You know, lockdowns were being released in a lot of places. They're brushing in. It's like, how do you gauge transmissibility if you're not infecting somebody with COVID, telling them to walk the same distance around the same amount of people, not touch anybody, but get within this distance you can't control to see how transmissible a specific strain is so do we know that it has any and this is the hot button demonstrated gain of function over normal you know over the normal sarcov2 strain like that's the question that you have to actually ask nobody like when someone walks in if something were to happen we're like
Starting point is 00:59:03 this person got covid from that person. I've never, I've been following this for a while, and I don't know, they don't say what strain they caught. So I keep thinking it's the original, but it might not be, right? Well, so here's what I think happened. And, you know, consult your doctor, because I'm not an expert on this, but I was reading about it. And basically, when we had the alpha strain, it was like original strain it was it was it was brutal it was more deadly less infectious but what happens is natural selection occurs right so the virus that caused the viruses that cause and outside of covet just in general virus and you can probably correct me
Starting point is 00:59:37 if i'm wrong on this one but viruses that cause more damage are less likely to spread because the person notices it and then takes action so So viruses that are less deadly and less causing of symptoms are more likely to transmit, naturally selecting for a highly transmissible but less deadly variant. So what happens is, here's what I think. This is my opinion. The Alpha variant, I think, was nightmarish. Like the data we were getting, the videos we were seeing, it was horrifying. We saw videos of people collapsing in the street in China. People not saying they're fake no i don't think that's what
Starting point is 01:00:08 what's happening i think what happened was the initial strain was people are saying it's like a pressure on their chest and so you've got people in china who are like pressured to go out work and and you know they have there's like a more honor culture so it's like put a mask on and get out there and then someone would be struggling to breathe. And what happens when you can't breathe? You pass out. Yeah, they have bad air there too anyway. Right. So you've got bad air.
Starting point is 01:00:28 You've got pressure on the chest. And this weird pneumonia was going around. So we see this data. And the initial data was like, we could see millions die from this in the US. Like the New York Times had a slider bar. The models were horrible. But what happens is there's a natural selection that occurs.
Starting point is 01:00:43 The most severe strains are eliminating themselves by killing people. The less severe variants were more likely to transmit because the people were less likely to be hospitalized. So then we went alpha. We had beta. Now we've seen epsilon and mu. But delta seems to be the scarier one. It's highly transmissible and still deadly but less deadly. This really makes sense. So now
Starting point is 01:01:05 we're getting to that point, perhaps, where people are saying we're going to have to live with COVID, but the worst strain of COVID will probably fizzle itself out. So I'll throw back to the 1918 flu pandemic for another point of data. There's one historical theory that the 1918 pandemic started in China as a lighter strain as a lighter string and a bunch of people got it and they got over it but then it moved into the trenches came back to the united states where it festered and got worse and because it had the ability to rapidly infect close-quartered people who are injured or sick that allowed for a very serious variant to rapidly infect lots of people.
Starting point is 01:01:51 By the time it made it back to China, the people of China already had some natural immunity to a similar strain and were less impacted by it. In this instance, it's similar but different. The very serious strain was struggling because we did the slowdown. We did the lockdowns. We did these things. I think it's fair to say we probably had a positive impact in that regard, but then variants can still persist, and we made a lot of mistakes. Notably, being indoors seems to be bad. Being outside with fresh air, with UV lights, with vitamin D, with exercise seems to be good. So we made some mistakes in that capacity.
Starting point is 01:02:15 We need to update our strategy. Now I think we're in a new pandemic, a pandemic of political manipulation, where we do have a crisis. Coronavirus is really bad. We're still hearing stories about people getting it but now you've got political parties that are like now's our chance never let a good crisis go to waste exactly and i mean they're doing that and you know part of the issue as well though you can actually argue with the lockdowns that you allow and incentivize mutations when you lock down because when they finally get out or when they have to actually go out and
Starting point is 01:02:43 they've been locked down for so long they're spreading a much more mutated iteration. It's went through about five or six viral generations, and now you're getting something that there's always a small chance that when a virus mutates that it can demonstrate a little bit more virulence and it can become a lot more deadly. That's interesting. Locking down essentially created isolated incubation. That's the one.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Are viruses more or less likely to mutate in isolation. It isolate pretty much if we never lock down, what would happen is that everybody COVID would burn through its host reservoir. Eventually we would reach herd immunity a lot faster. That's at least, you know, that's the traditional logic. I think it still stands. There's a lot of inconsistency on it. And I'm not going to give you a definitive. But what happens is you let it burn through its host reservoir. And again, people are going to you know, people are going to succumb to the illness.
Starting point is 01:03:32 That's part of the nature of it. But once it actually burns through, everybody's already immune. You know, they're immunized. So you don't have a let's say a generation one COVID and then generation five, you know, a generation five COVID illness going in and generation five is so much different from generation one that eventually you get a chance mutation that allows it to spread a little bit easier. A question. If you don't know the answer, it's OK. If if if you become immune to like alpha of covet alpha it can it mutate in your system once you develop immunity to the alpha can it that that's always a possibility
Starting point is 01:04:12 that's actually something that you know we take well okay it's complicated because once you have the antibodies once you have the immunoglobulin g antibodies within your blood once it's there again it's going to eventually get wiped it's going to eventually get wiped out and then the rest of your antibody production will catch on lymphocytes and the dendritic cells will begin to dispose of it so you will eventually get rid of the infection entirely but the issue is again what you know how do you control for whatever you're spreading because you have a thousand different variants of the virus here. And once that's the most transmissible will then be able to be shed to somebody else. And then that one will actually spread and it'll copy those transmits.
Starting point is 01:04:57 You know, it'll actually carry those same transmissibility traits and it might actually improve on it further and further and further. And then they might actually spread that one. you know it's all chance it's like you know you're rolling a dice every single time because first you have to actually spread the most transmissible variant of unvariant of it and then you have to hope that that one doesn't self-terminate or snuff itself out every single time that it's hijacking a cell and getting itself to be reproduced if it snuffs itself out or if you don't actually spread it and your body actually develops immunity to it you know that's that's game over so it's basically a chance thing that's why i say mutations are they're drummed up to such a degree
Starting point is 01:05:37 that you know it's like tim said they're not letting a good crisis go to waste but really this is something mundane that we're making sound so exotic i think i think initially i actually do think the initial like everything we saw initially was accurate and we have to we have to make sure we're updating the science as the as the mutations happen and assess our economic circumstances it started with a novel virus that it was highly infectious and it was. So it was likely going to hit everybody. And it was just, as they reported, not a lab leak, but just very interestingly, it had these proper, you know, infection methods. But in the beginning, they're like, look, nobody's had this. So that means everyone's going to get it. There's no natural immunity to this. And that means we're going to see a lot of death. And so we wanted to do something about it. I think
Starting point is 01:06:23 that was legitimate. But what happens is with mutations, with bad policy, we're not perfect. We make mistakes. We should have done different things. I can accept that. Trump should have fired Fauci. I definitely think that is. Fauci has got no confidence in the American people.
Starting point is 01:06:38 But it's hard to say. We're at a point now where I'm wondering if the hard lockdowns allowed for isolated incubation. So put it this way. If the population is rapidly intermingling, then there will be variants, but people will quickly catch certain strains and then develop immunity to those strains. Granted, with a novel virus, we're talking about a lot of death. So it's a scary sentence. It's scary to just be like, we're going to ignore this. Well, then you get overloaded hospitals. But if you tell everyone
Starting point is 01:07:03 to lock down, then what happens is, let's say you have 10 buildings that are sealed, each are infected with COVID. When they open the doors, you could have 10 variants because they went through multiple, like you said, five or six generations. Now it comes out with 10 different strains all at once. So, look, I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on this or an expert on policy. Nobody is at this point. Right, right. It's hard to know for sure. The one thing I can say is when you look at Australia, you look at what's happening with Democrats,
Starting point is 01:07:31 I think they're like it's an opportunity for us to push through agenda items to do a lot of things. Now, interestingly, I guess Gretchen Whitmer is opposing vax mandates and mask mandates. Her polling was bad or something like that. Yeah, she must have saw them in numbers. All right. She's for the people. Well, I'm glad that's the case, but I don't think it's going to save her career. I think too many Democrats saw this as an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:07:53 They started by saying, come on down to Chinatown. That's what Nancy Pelosi was saying. Yeah, I remember that. Nancy Pelosi not wearing a mask, getting her hair done. Gavin Newsom not wearing a mask, going to these restaurants. They don't care about this. And I'll tell you this. Celebrities aren't scared of this at all. Take into consideration that. They go to the Emmys. They go to the Met G restaurants. They don't care about this. And I'll tell you this. Celebrities aren't scared of this at all.
Starting point is 01:08:05 No. Take into consideration that. They go to the Emmys. They go to the Met Gala. They don't wear masks. They don't care. They literally do not fear this at all. So if you're sitting at home and you're worried and you're scared about this,
Starting point is 01:08:14 ask yourself why it is that political elites and celebrities have zero fear. They go on TV. They don't wear masks. They go to special events. They don't wear masks. They do not care about this. There's just such an informational lag because I think conservatives are on the cutting edge of this. Conservatives have already gotten to the point where we've accepted that this is going to be an endemic virus.
Starting point is 01:08:33 It's not as bad as it could be. Practice good health. Get outside, again, because you need the vitamin D and also because heat stimulates interferons, which can help, again, help your body actually ward off the virus. A lot of people don't do research into interferons. Children also have a much higher number of interferons within their nose, and that's part of the reason why children are less susceptible in general. Wow. But, you know, there's so many facets to this that the average person does not know,
Starting point is 01:09:00 and there's information on life because they're getting it from these traditional sources. So what do you do? Make more interferons, baby. Hey, so you're saying it's endemic, which means what does that mean exactly? That means that you're going to, it's basically a part of society. You're going to have a COVID every single year. And as yourself, how long have we had a flu vaccine? Well, we've got a bunch of different ones.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Okay. Have we gotten rid of the flu yet? Nope. Okay. So why are we trying to do the same thing with COVID? Right. But I always thought it was the flu shot. Is that because I thought it wasn't a vaccine?
Starting point is 01:09:30 Well, it's a more traditional one. The mRNA vaccine is where you're exposing yourself to two specific spike proteins out of the spike protein from damaging the cell, basically, as it's manufactured. And it actually locks it onto the plasma membrane of a cell so it can't get loose and go and damage other cells. Is the RNA one? Yeah, that's the RNA. It helps your body basically produce the spike protein so that you can create those IgG or IgG. Jesus Christ. Antibodies.
Starting point is 01:10:10 That's that's the worst naming convention. I'm so glad you're here. It's complicated. It's super. It's super complicated, but it's also niche, too, because, again, a lot of urologists, they'll study this and they won't put two and two together. And then, you know, you have some urologists that dedicate themselves to studying interferons. You have some that dedicate themselves to say studying different methods to deploy, you know, vaccines. That's pretty much how we have the 8026 in the Janssen.
Starting point is 01:10:40 And that's how we have the nanoparticle, the lipid-covered nanoparticle of basically the Pfizer one. So what's a traditional vaccine called? Does it have a name? I would say a live – well, no, it wouldn't be the live attenuated one. Attenuated, right. Yeah. That's pretty much it where you're presenting an inner copy. So the Novavax, I think.
Starting point is 01:11:00 That's a traditional vaccine. Is that a live attenuated or – Ooh, I might actually have to go look at that. The specifics of which I'm super – Do you know anything about the Johnson & traditional vaccine? Is that a live attenuated? Ooh, I might actually have to go look at that. The specifics of which I'm super... Do you know anything about the Johnson & Johnson vaccine? Yes. It's a DNA vaccine, right? I think it's still...
Starting point is 01:11:14 I thought it was still RNA, but it was just deployed using a adenovirus that was actually found in a research monkey. I could be wrong, but I thought that it was still... that we're still dealing with RNA. Hey, kind of as a more general question, do you think that there's a lot of promise in the RNA vaccines in general? I mean, it's a useful way to do what we've always done, but you know, the weakness of RNA vaccines is again, it's bloodborne immunity, which means if
Starting point is 01:11:40 you have something that transmits or sheds via the nodes, you're still able to transmit because that's a different antibody that you're trying to produce. So it works on blood but not in mucus, not in lymph. Yeah, those would be the IgA antibodies that you find there, your saliva, and I believe in your stomach. It says DNA. It says that Johnson & Johnson uses an adenovirus to deliver the spike protein DNA. And it's Nebraska medicine, so I'm assuming that – I read this too. I think I was reading on the CDC that it's a DNA vaccine versus the mRNA vaccine, similar but different technologies. Yeah, it's just the same process, just kind of in reverse.
Starting point is 01:12:18 DNA, you're basically cleaving it into an – you're basically splitting it into an RNA and then getting it out to your ribosome so that they can actually, you know, send it so that they can actually manufacture where it's RNA. Again, it's already ready to go. Word. It's like inserting a disc into a, it's like inserting a disc with a program into a computer. So before we move on, CD ROM. Yeah, indeed. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Before we move on, I have to ask a lot of times people will just dismiss out of hand the concept of a vaccine altogether because they'll tell me it's not a vaccine. It's gene therapy. What do you say to that? I mean, it's a semantic argument because, you know, everything is, you know, everything to some degree are genes. Like now what I think when people say gene therapy, they're thinking kind of like a retrovirus where it actually overwrites the dna of your cells and causes them to basically by default produce this like i said this is like just inserting a cd into a computer and telling it run a specific program it's going to conduct though i was i was reading a harvard article about gene therapy a lot of people were sending saying see it proves mrna is gene therapy it actually doesn't. The Harvard article says that there is mRNA gene therapy.
Starting point is 01:13:27 mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy. So the idea is basically what they're saying. If you've got a genetic disorder, they can use mRNA to literally do a gene therapy and change the DNA in your cells to stop the disorder.
Starting point is 01:13:42 But these vaccines don't do that. They just give the RNA to make a spike protein and then eventually cease to exist. They allow the ribosomes to basically go to work and, you know, again, mobilize the aminos to conduct the protein. And it's only two out of the 26 that, you know, you'll find on the surface, too.
Starting point is 01:13:59 So it's not even like it's covering the whole cell with it. And I just think there's a lot of other arguments people make. They use semantic arguments like gene therapy. I'm like, what does that mean? Like, I mean, does that affect the politics of freedom and medical choice and bodily autonomy? You know.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Write the mandates, not the vaccines. Because again, the vaccines are, you know, vaccines are pretty much wonderful anywhere that you've actually been. Yes, these may have, you know, you might have a lot of allergic reactions. There's a lot that we don't know how people's bodies are reacting to it, but people react. All medicine has risk. People react oddly to all kinds of medicines, depending on what.
Starting point is 01:14:37 I'll put it this way. If someone comes to me and says that they would like to get vaccinated, I'll be like, that's cool. You talk to your doctor, and they'll be like, yeah, that's fantastic. I'm glad you did that. Thank you. That's awesome. I don't think we should force people to do it though. And there's arguments about like, well, what about all the other vaccines? And I'm like, truth be told, I still have issues with government mandated medication. I think people, you know, there's limited function, right? If you want to go to a public institution like a school and they mandate it, that's
Starting point is 01:15:02 different from saying all public accommodation, period, for participation in society. Furthermore, the older vaccines have been around for a much, much longer time and went through a legislative process for approval. It's very different from like, we're in a crisis and we're going to just executive decree this stuff. So I think it's like the Supreme Court said about the eviction moratorium. It's an issue for Congress. Laws have to be voted on and passed.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And the problem is when Democrats realize they can't get it through because of Republicans, they just say, you know, we'll squeeze it in with a budget bill. We'll do the omnibus spending where we just get whatever we want or Biden will rule by decree. And that goes back to what we said, though, that, again, the Democratic Party is sick. And when you have a sick party that can't get the other wing to agree or work with it, then what do you get? You get these schemes, these plans, these ways that you are trying to control, manipulate and snuff out the other wing to agree or work with it, then what do you get? You get these schemes, these plans, these ways that you are trying to control, manipulate, and snuff out the other party and that eventually destroys the nation because
Starting point is 01:15:52 you need the ideas of the left which left does not, it doesn't mean de facto communism. Let's go to that. Left and right are just semantic terms that we use to describe traditionalism, which would normally be right and then you know this whole moving forward changing things which is what we see left like if
Starting point is 01:16:11 america was historically a communist country the commies would be the right yeah and you know the left would be the capitalists and could you imagine could you imagine that a group of wall street bets uh savannah capitalists hurling Moldov cocktails into worker camps. Yeah, but they also don't, like, it's not about being establishment. It's just certain political factions don't engage in that kind of behavior, whether they're revolution or not. But let me show you the story. We got this story from Fox News.
Starting point is 01:16:38 New York governor refusing to budge on vaccine mandate for nurses. You're replaceable. I don't think they realize. We had a story that one hospital in New York was no longer going to deliver babies because they had no maternity ward nurses. It's like upstate New York. This is a bet the New York governor is going to lose.
Starting point is 01:16:56 They're not replaceable. Not going to happen. You know who is replaceable? The governor. Oh, yeah. That's true. You know, I could replace the governor with a golden retriever and we'd probably be better probably better off definitely so when they start firing people i think the economy is going to just
Starting point is 01:17:11 yeah you look they they come out and they say we're in a very serious pandemic we need to mandate this stuff okay what happens when you eliminate nurses in the middle of the pandemic pandemic gets worse that's where we're goingeren't they just complaining that we're having a nursing shortage? I don't understand where she's coming from. They're literally paying travel nurses exorbitant amount of fees to come work for them when they could just pay the nurses a little bit more. But no, instead, they're going to go ahead and fire them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:39 What did she say? She'll bring in foreign staff or something? That's so expensive. We're sending out a call statewide. There are facilities, for example, in New York that 98% of the staff are vaccinated. They don't have a worker shortage. We are working closely with these hospitals to find out where we can get other individuals to come in and supplement nursing homes and other facilities.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Her comments come after she had already said on Tuesday while visiting the Niagara Power Project, those who refuse, we will find replacements. Those who refuse, you have my utmost respect. Do not give the government an inch. They will take 10 miles. It will find replacements. Those who refuse, you have my utmost respect. Do not give the government an inch. They will take 10 miles. It's a power play. That's all it is. Because, I mean, again, if you have nurses refusing the vaccine mandate,
Starting point is 01:18:14 and nurses are regarded as health professionals, then what do you think is going to happen to the rest of the people? These certainly must be the stupidest nurses on the planet. To be in these hospitals where they can actually see the vaccine workings and then reject them. What strange individuals. I'm being facetious, by the way. The point is, I don't know what they're experiencing. And there are a lot of people like the left have been like, wow, someone actually tweeted on the left.
Starting point is 01:18:39 They're like, these nurses must be really stupid to be working in the hospitals where they can see the vaccines work and refuse them. And it's like, maybe there's still breakthrough cases. Maybe there's like, it doesn't matter. If you're a nurse and you see people coming in for COVID, you're not going to see a grand global overview of the numbers. Well, it all goes back to what do you define as a breakthrough case? Because again, I think the vaccines were rated even at their peak for like 95, 90% efficacy. So what do you call the other 5%? What do you call the other five percent what do you call the other 10 that's expected so that's not even a break again that's a semantic fear word like
Starting point is 01:19:10 breakthrough case oh your vaccine it may or may not work no we've already controlled for that but the fact is you get the vaccine you have a better chance of surviving you then you can develop real immunity now the issue with the whole nurses refusing the mandate is if you get a vaccine and you get the SARS-CoV-2 virus up in your nose, you can still spread it, but you don't know you have it because your symptoms are reduced. So now they can potentially spread it to even more patients because they're almost confirmed to be asymptomatic, especially if they have a working immune system.
Starting point is 01:19:43 They're not going to have symptoms. So now you just and testing for everybody. Now it's going to be mass testing for everybody. That's controlling for a mistake that they made because again, we just didn't have the data. It's like I said, nobody's an expert on this. You know what? I say we do it right now. I say
Starting point is 01:20:00 not a vaccine mandate, a swab mandate to enter all establishments. So every business has to have someone employed at the door and when you walk in, they stick the thing
Starting point is 01:20:10 in your nose, they put it down and you wait 15 minutes or whatever. How long does that take? It takes 15 minutes or no, it takes longer than that,
Starting point is 01:20:15 doesn't it? Yeah, I think about 30. All right, you stand outside for 30 minutes and then if you, all right,
Starting point is 01:20:19 you can come in now. I got the finger test where they prick your blood and they check or whatever and that was negative but they like put the thing on your finger and they smash it and then it like goes through your blood and they check or whatever. That was negative. But they put the thing on your finger and they smash it and then it goes through your skin and they do the blood. That was instant. It was like you literally look and go, you're good.
Starting point is 01:20:33 It was like instant. It was more like a minute or so. I had one where they put the thing on my forehead and then they put a green light on my forehead or something. You guys get that? It's a temp scan. You're good. Oh, it's a temp scan. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Trying to see if it's laser. Trying to see if you were sick. Just looking at manifestations of if you're febrile. Yeah, that's time again. Yeah, yeah, trying to see if, it's laser, trying to see if you were sick. Just looking at manifestations of, you know, if you're febrile. Yeah, that's what it's doing, for sure. The story shows
Starting point is 01:20:50 they don't care about you. They don't care about your rights. They don't care about your freedom. They don't care about the Constitution.
Starting point is 01:20:55 They will replace you. So we should replace them. We don't need these fat cats, these big wigs. It's our duty to
Starting point is 01:21:01 replace them. I don't like, term limits, man. Term limits, term limits. How do we make it happen fast? We don't need to make it happen fast how do we make it happen legitimately midterms yes but there are two distinct cultures in this country that i don't think that solves the problem at all i don't know what does solve the problem because you can
Starting point is 01:21:18 have uh tom cotton come out and say we should consider whether or not covet leaked in a lab and new york times says crackpot conspiracy theorist Tom Cotton puts out crackpot conspiracy theory. And then a year later, some guy, former New York Times, is like, actually, it may be. And they go, oh, it may be. Or Hunter Biden's laptop. They come out and they're like, they found an old laptop. There's no proof. We're not going to look at it.
Starting point is 01:21:42 The NPR said it's not even news. We won't entertain it. Twitter said we're going to block the New going to look at it. The NPR said it's not even news. We won't entertain it. Twitter said we're going to block the New York Post from sharing it. And then a year later, they're like, oh, that laptop thing? Yeah, that was true. This thought that we used to write constitutions and laws, now
Starting point is 01:21:55 we write code. So if the code does it, there's no enforcement. The code happens. What do you mean? If you're living in a digital society, the code's going to dictate what you can and can't do just by basis of what the code is coded to do. So it's like the law is built into society at that point. The law is part of the function. So maybe that's the future.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Like social media. You could use a word on YouTube that makes your video not appear. So there's like invisible enforcement that someone put in play that is shaping our culture without anyone's permission we've lost we've all control the machine is taking over and here's the crazy thing it's not an ai it's just a random amalgam of different code and maybe some machine learning but for the most part they ban they ban words based on what words a word could sound like another word and they they'll ban you for it they ban ban sounds. Isn't that nuts? There's literally no oversight. And I mean, that's the argument against having just code. Because again, there are going to be errors because code is dealing with people.
Starting point is 01:22:52 People can say something. A code can't sort out for sarcasm. A code can't sort out whether or not you're quoting something unless you say begin quote, end quote, or something like that. And if you go that route and you just eliminate, let's say, enforcement or politicians in general, where's the appeal process? You could build it into the system, like a jury system, with a transparent free software code. And then if someone feels like they were wronged by the way the code acted,
Starting point is 01:23:16 they could appeal to a jury of your peers. Like 1,000 random people could get an opportunity to view the process. And then that could self-alter the code. If you get enough times that this thing has gone wrong then the code rewrites itself or the people overseeing the code can rewrite it sounds it sounds good but again if it deals with people and it's dealing with you know personal personal interpretations and then you know that was personal interpretations are being cultivated by that same code and algorithm, then, you know, you're just at back at square one.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Interesting. You know, we, there's a lot of problems in that because people are going to argue and then you're going to get people saying, here's the real problem. And it's going to be, it's going to break down as to who gets to implement the code.
Starting point is 01:23:56 I think maybe, maybe one of the simplest solutions would be if, you know, you just took one person and appointed them Supreme Chancellor with absolute power to do anything and then just said, you know what? You take care of us. Yeah. We don't have to fight anymore. I like that.
Starting point is 01:24:13 We'll just have them be allowed to do anything and control all of the law enforcement and just accept that their decisions are law. Genius. But, you know, we say that jokingly. You know, the fact I had a disclaimer because no, we say that jokingly but you know the fact i had a disclaimer because but no we say that jokingly but here's the problem the left is constantly burning books removing history removing the stories and tales of when we did things like that and when they went horribly wrong so what happens when you get the next generation that does come up with that idea and they don't have the history to tell them you might not want to do that it's a big part of why i don't like that they've censored
Starting point is 01:24:49 the swastika because you need to know symbol you gotta know the history of the nazi party man you gotta know there's there's cartoons family guy justice league that they show these symbols and now it's like they're like oh we can't show that it's offensive i'm just assuming that they ban the swastika i don't know that the swastika is banned. Can you show a swastika on YouTube? It is algorithmically reduced in a lot of capacities. And depending on the context, Twitter might remove it or flag it. And there's a big difference. We talked about this before the show.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Talking about something racy, like a word, is very different than using that word to describe someone or attack someone. But it should matter for the future. No, no. It matters to human beings. It doesn't matter to the machine. The machine doesn't care why. Or actually, I think it no longer matters to the people either. It's like that Netflix executive was explaining to people racial slurs
Starting point is 01:25:40 and why they were banned and what they were. And he got in trouble for saying it. Imagine being part of a diversity and inclusion thing where you're like we're going to be explaining racial slurs why they're offensive and why you can't say them and then someone gasps when you say it to tell them not to say it and he got fired so he gets this netflix that gets called to hr and they're like what happened he goes i was explaining to them racial slurs and like what was not acceptable and and i, and they went, oh, he said it again. It's like, well, you asked him.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Unrepentant. What? He got fired. Lost his job. John Schnatter. Yeah, look at Papa John. We had Papa John on the show. He was explaining on a phone call how this word's offensive.
Starting point is 01:26:18 And Colonel Sanders used it. Nobody even got mad at him. And they were like, oh, he said it. He didn't call anybody any racial slurs. Saying the sound is so different than calling someone a name. I could call you a name that's an innocuous word. And it's more offensive than if I'm discussing the etymology of a word. There was a period where people were using Facebook, Skype, Twitter as slurs, trying to get
Starting point is 01:26:44 the word banned, I guess, or whatever the point was. But there was a period where it was like the left was writing saying like, these are now slang for racist terms or whatever. And it's like, oh, geez. In the Kyle Rittenhouse case, apparently the judge said he didn't recognize
Starting point is 01:26:56 the OK symbol as a symbol of white supremacy and that he thought it was, what did he say used it? Oh, it was really funny. Literally everyone. Let me literally everyone i'm curious i don't remember i've seen aoc throw up two of them i know so did obama a-okay dog whistles i know it's perfect it means well actually it could be more of a dog whistle seeing how the progressive party is basically you know again who's it a dog whistle for and who is hearing the dog whistles
Starting point is 01:27:24 is it a dog i'm never just saying it hearing the dog whistles? Is it a dog? We never consider the possibility that these people could be entirely subversive. They could be virulent bigots. This could have been like a 10-year plan to get in under the guise of being an ally and eventually turn it back or turn the country back to the age
Starting point is 01:27:40 of Jim Crow. I'm seeing it. Chef Boyardee. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. God, I haven't had that in a minute. That's good. For good reason. I'm seeing it. Chef Boyardee. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. Oh, God, I haven't had that in a minute. I used to eat a lot of that. That's good. For good reason. Cans of it. So, yeah, the judge said the OK sign is also used as a game and in old Chef Boyardee campaigns.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Oh, yeah. I certainly would keep the door open if you can show that there is any connection between the defendant on the day in question and this organization. But as I said before, if this organization embraces the defendant after the fact and he's lionized because of his behavior, that is not something that the jury can make anything out of that would be lawful. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Now the question is, Ian, again, with algorithms, do you get that level of nuance into it? Can algorithm be that nuance and make that judgment call? At this stage, I don't think so. I would hazard that it couldn't. It will never unless you get an algorithm that's so sufficient that it can replace humans entirely.
Starting point is 01:28:32 What would happen is, okay, you make the okay sign on your minds video and then the AI flags it and is like, hey, offensive thing. And then you're like, no, I wasn't doing it offensively. I was doing it non-offensively. So then you appeal it. And then it goes out to like a thousand people that get to vote is he did he use it in context or is the ai right and then they vote and then the ai changes itself no no no
Starting point is 01:28:55 that's ideal and once once again your idea is absurd and wrong i'll tell you what we should do and mine should roll this out as you're're posting, there should be a little circle with like a red light that's flashing a little bit. And if you're about to post something offensive, it goes, I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Ian. You're like,
Starting point is 01:29:14 I want to freeze your bloodstream, Ian. Hold still, Ian. I want to post this meme. I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Ian. Cryo-freeze initiated, Ian. Don't press that button. And then robotic arms can come out of the ceiling. Hold still, Ian.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Hold still. It's for your own good. It's going to amnesticize you and take away the will that you ever had to post that meme. Andreas has been talking about neural net. And one of the things they might do with it is for violent prisoners, rather than put them in prison, put them on a neural net that dampens their willpower to become digital lobotomy. I don't know if that's ethical, but it's a use of the technology.
Starting point is 01:29:50 The ethics committee would never go for that again. But is it ethical to put someone in prison for 20 years? It's kind of the argument. Again, then it's like, what do you do with it when you have an unrepentant? These are imperfect. We're dealing with people. People are imperfect. And these problems, unfortunately, will never have a perfect, neat answer.
Starting point is 01:30:07 All you can do is just mitigate harm. And unfortunately, you know, it goes back to the pandemic. Democrats haven't figured out that you can't do anything. You just got to mitigate the harm. There's no perfect, neat. But everybody's a coward. Well, there's power. And regular people and the people in big cities are terrified.
Starting point is 01:30:25 They're like, they scream. That's what Zuby just tweeted out. He was like, she's been traveling the U.S. And he was like, man, these blue states, whatever. Talking about the big cities, there's so much fear. And it's really dampening my vibe. It's messing with my vibe, man. I want to go back to Florida and Texas.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Yeah. West Virginia, it's like life is normal. It's weird to see going to the the casino they ban masks because it's a casino and they're like you can't wear masks but people still do it and they don't say anything but i'm like it's kind of weird people are smoking in there west virginia man we got freedom it really is great for ladies but yeah freedom if you can keep it i guess freedom is scary though to an infantilized people and that's the problem is that again people in our stage this is why i'm black people i i know lids i'm not supposed to do that i'm not supposed to do that but i'm black peeled when it comes to you know libertarianism in general because libertarianism would have worked
Starting point is 01:31:15 with when people were more rugged more robust more open to risk but now everybody's so infantilized it's like the uh the muscle doge meme and the little chins. And it's like, it's kind of like, you know, back in the day, people were all just, they would take risks. They would do what they needed to do. And nowadays it's like, someone called me a mean word online. Now, if there's something you don't know, you just look it up. That didn't exist before.
Starting point is 01:31:39 That's something that we have. But I mean, the search for the knowledge, like just doing something more than Google search and like going to your library and grabbing a book, that allowed you to uncover more. But we don't have that now. Now you can just look something up
Starting point is 01:31:51 and people are so spoiled. You have to ask people. There's a funny, it was so much conversation with, hey, what is, can you answer this? There was a funny comic where it's like,
Starting point is 01:32:01 it says then, it's like two guys sitting down and one guy goes, hey, what year was Abraham Lincoln assassinated? And the other one goes, I don't know. You want to go to the library? Not really. Okay.
Starting point is 01:32:10 And the panel below, it's like now. Hey, what year was Abraham Lincoln assassinated? And then he holds up his phone, and what was it? 1864? I don't know the exact year, but he holds up his phone. Let's go to Super Chats, everybody. If you haven't already, you must smash that like button. It is your sworn duty.
Starting point is 01:32:25 And subscribe to the channel. Go to TimCast.com. Become a member. Share the show with your friends. Let's read some of these fancy messages. Ooh, this one's good. You know who says Malcolm Flex has the deep, gravely baritone voice that could serenade me into walking off a cliff if I were to use his powers for evil.
Starting point is 01:32:41 Pay me $5 and I will say whatever you want. I will make a cameo page. We can get this going right now. Lincoln was assassinated in 1865, April 14th. So close. I am many things, but I am not a historian, nor am I good with specifics. Lou Akoder says,
Starting point is 01:32:55 Tim, why are we giving billions of dollars to foreign countries when our economy is falling apart? These politicians do not care for Americans and only value their overseas pet projects. I completely agree. That's why I think it's a challenge when it comes to Israel, because it's like, do we let it just be peppered with rockets and then see all this mass death? Should we be securing the face mask of those in an exos before securing our own?
Starting point is 01:33:18 There's a good argument for not providing funding, not because it's Israel. Here's the issue. If you came to me and said, I think we should reduce all of our foreign spending until we can resuscitate America and maybe even drop it down to near zero or zero, I'd be like, we should have a discussion. When AOC is like,
Starting point is 01:33:32 I don't like Israel, I'm like, shut up. Get out of here. It's a stupid argument. You don't care about the economy. She's just in this weirdo world of Israel bad. Rashida Tlaib is like,
Starting point is 01:33:41 it's a humanitarian crisis and they're war crimes. And I'm like, you see, if you really cared about foreign spending, you'd be talking about all the other countries we're dumping money into as well, not just Israel. They're just obsessed because they are lunatics. They are obsessed with this stuff. You know what really, really frustrates me more than anything? Are the anti-Israel zealots and the pro-Israel zealots? I'm like, dude, you can be pro, you can be anti, and we can have a conversation.
Starting point is 01:34:10 But I can't stand people like AOC who are like, ah, screaming, and they're like, you're dedicating your time and energy to one country. Calm down. Give me some principled opposition like this was right here. We shouldn't give billions of dollars to foreign countries when our economy is failing. That's a really good point, Lou Akoda. You're correct. I agree with you. AOC, I don't.
Starting point is 01:34:23 I think she just hates Israel. Yeah. A lot of these people weren't even alive when the conflict went on, so they're just picking That's a really good point, Lua Coder. You're correct. I agree with you. AOC, I don't. I think she just hates Israel. Yeah. A lot of these people weren't even alive when the conflict went on. So they're just picking a side based on some skewed iteration of history
Starting point is 01:34:32 that we've already said, let's not do. White Rat says, nothing says strong political figure when they cry if they don't get their way. That's true. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:34:45 All right, let's see. Ass queen slay. She thinks it'll work. She lives on the internet. Irish Fish says, the left cult is not stupid. They are crazy. Also check out Neon Genesis Evangelion
Starting point is 01:34:56 and Akira. Yes, interesting. Yeah. All right. Oregon Life says, Ian, you mentioned you voted for Biden. Knowing what you know now, would you make the same decision? Why or why not?
Starting point is 01:35:08 You're a borderline commie. I never said that, though, did I? No. I voted for Obama in 2008, so technically, by default, Biden was involved in that, but I didn't vote for Biden. I didn't vote this last election. I couldn't bring myself to do it. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:35:19 I mean, also, I just moved, so it was a big challenge. You want to know something that's really bad. I don't want to cut that off. But, you know, if Biden gets 25th or he dies or, you know, worse, you know, if something happens to Joe Biden, we won't get a President Trump because President Trump is going to be that same age. I think the independents are going to look at it and say, do we really want to go down there? So that's something. I need a young scientist. Yeah, I want like an ethical genius in office right now.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Well, tell your GOP to find him. So I'm probably pronouncing this name wrong every time I do because I don't know what it is. Leg, I'm a Thigian. But he says, Sounds Latin. Ian, you're my bro,
Starting point is 01:36:04 but Israel isn't a theocracy. Most Israelis are secular Jews. You can be any religion or none. The land was split into two states by the UN in 1948. Israel was instantly invaded and defeated the invasion. The history is highly complex. It is very, is Israel not a Jewish state?
Starting point is 01:36:20 Lurch says the last super chat is complete BS. Israel was not invaded. They waged a campaign of ethnic cleansing in 1947 and a handful of Arab soldiers came to try and stop it
Starting point is 01:36:29 see this is what happened there you go are they talking about the six day war is that what it was there's so many different canons they did like a blitzkrieg
Starting point is 01:36:37 against Egypt because Egypt and Israel had had all this conflict and there was like this blitzkrieg and then this takeover of land I think it was in 67, though.
Starting point is 01:36:45 That was longer, further away. All right. Fidel LeBlanc says, had no idea until the other night that you're a weeb. Love Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. What's your favorite anime manga? P.S. Love the show. Watch every night. I think I'm going to go for the obvious and say Naruto, because when Naruto was in its manga run, Shonen Jump, every week I would pull up the scanlation.
Starting point is 01:37:05 This was like 10 years. It's crazy when I think back. I'm like, there was a period where I was like, oh, it's Wednesday, and I would pull up and I would read the latest chapter. And then I'm like, and then it ended. I will say the last few chapters I thought were terrible. Are you familiar with Naruto? Oh, yeah, I'm very.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Yeah, I thought the Kaguya stuff went over the top, and it was too nuts and wacky, and I'm like, eh. The problem is Kishimoto, he couldn't bring himself to kill off Madara like at some point Madara was he was hyped up he was foreshadowed and he was just the perfect villain and you know again especially when you know the five
Starting point is 01:37:35 Kage summon he literally soloed the whole the strongest ninja in the verse and how do you do that? When he got the sage powers I was like this is great but then when the Kaguya stuff started and he was like a pawn, I'm like, this is ridiculous. The aliens are here. The Black Zetsu. And then they expounded upon it with Warzo, but it's just like, it's tanking.
Starting point is 01:37:55 And it was just, he did too good. Overwhelmingly, the series was really, really great. Full Metal Alchemist, Brotherhood. I mean, both series were really, really good. And I got to give a shout out to FLCL back in the day. Oh, I remember watching Adult Swim. What was it, six episodes?
Starting point is 01:38:14 Wacky Show, Limited Run, Total Absurdism. They tried making sequels to it. They just don't work. But that is a classic, classic series. And then I got to say, these are really obvious but death note i will give a shout out to that time i got reincarnated as a slime i think is pretty good i stopped watching it a while ago and there's another show i can't remember the name of maybe you guys in the
Starting point is 01:38:34 chat can remind me of it it's about a dude they're in a they're in like a training class for like nights or something and then he's in a dungeon but he falls and then he's gonna die so he eats a monster but then becomes like a hybrid monster you saw that one yeah yeah and then he's in a dungeon, but he falls. And then he's going to die, so he eats a monster, but then becomes like a hybrid monster. You saw that one? Yeah, yeah. And then he's like going through the dungeon, leveling up, getting ultra strong, and his arm gets chopped off or whatever. And then when he finally escapes, he's super powerful and like a demon of some sort. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:56 I can't remember the name of that show. I watched that one. That was really cool. Yeah. It's odd. It sounds like a setup for – it almost sounds eerily similar to the setup for jujitsu kaizen like from the eating of the finger and you know almost becoming a monster again just kind of drawn parallels my hero academia is pretty good it is it's yeah but these are all like the really
Starting point is 01:39:15 obvious cliche ones yeah because we're doing sword art online sword art online it doesn't get good until the gungale part oh even after that even after that. Because, I mean, Kirito, he's a Gary Stu. You know, it's like he's perfect in every way in the series. And even in the real world, it's just like he's a kendo practitioner. So he's got reaction skills. And it's like, you know, at some point, it just lost its luster. I thought Cowboy Bebop, man. Greatness.
Starting point is 01:39:41 It's such a bummer that it only got 26 episodes in. I guess it was too violent at the time and they didn't want to renew it. But that show, the lore, they're saying they're going to expand the canon with Netflix, with the Netflix live action. Yeah, I don't trust it either, especially because Edward's not in the trailer. So I'm like, yo, I don't trust it. Is that the John Cho? The John Cho movie? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:04 It's not a movie. It's a series. Oh, a TV show. Yeah. All right. Serge says, Democrats are trying to pass legislation to prevent people
Starting point is 01:40:09 who self-direct IRA accounts from investing in anything but the stock market. No more crypto or real estate investments. This is scary. Wow. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Christopher Riley says, Please read this. Have Modern Renaissance Man on your show. He would be really fun to watch on your show. Well, okay. We'll look him up. We'll take a a look we'll look him up all right let's see we got drew richmond says we need a tim pool the science fool shirt bill nye was the inspiration here of
Starting point is 01:40:35 course a better rhyme would be needed fool is not complimentary the science simple make science cool there you go that works yeah i don't you'd be cool. Well, I don't. You do now, Tim. Shadi Viceroy says, I work in the solar industry, and the process for PV arrays is very interesting, photovoltaic. Especially the DC to DC link battery systems are super cool. Also, the inverters switch IGBTS for DC to AC after being broken up through a sign filter. Oh.
Starting point is 01:41:05 I have no idea what that means. Wow. Sounds cool. Huh. Science. A lot of people do. I learned that from watching Rogan's podcast. He'd have these geniuses on, and they'd be talking to him.
Starting point is 01:41:14 He'd just sit there and listen and not understand anything they said. But he's like, but it's getting recorded. I can either watch it later, or there's a bunch of people that know what he's talking about. This is a good Great and Gateway podcast. Yes. Yeah. Definitely. Peter Provenzano says, Tim, the U.S. is buying the Iron Dome to defend the air bases in Guam, Japan, South Korea.
Starting point is 01:41:28 We basically paid for the R&D for the defensive weapon. In South Korea, it's called THAAD. THAAD. Yeah, I forgot what it stands for. Aerial Defense, maybe? Something like that. Aerial Defense. And there are protests against it.
Starting point is 01:41:39 They're worried that it'll increase the tensions between the North and the South. Yeah. When I was there, there were signs saying, like, no THAAD in South Korea. Mm, interesting. All right, let's see what we got here.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Justin Bell says, as fall comes in, I will be able to see Three Mile Island from my front porch. That sounds cool. Nice. Derek Jones says, Ian, I have an MS and wrote a thesis on horizontal gene transfer. HGT is the non-sexual transfer of genetic material, e.g.
Starting point is 01:42:16 DNA-RNA, between organisms. You've been conflating it with other phenomena. I'll tweet DMU good sources. I'm a fan of what y'all do. Thanks. Very cool. Amazing. Oh yeah, have you studied the gene translations much? Lateral and horizontal gene translations? Not near as much. I haven't delved into that one.
Starting point is 01:42:32 When you start getting into the pairings and translating, transcripting and all that, that's where you literally... Complicated. BN says even nuclear isn't as uncommon as you're making it sound. In the US, we have 56 nuclear power plants
Starting point is 01:42:47 operating across 28 states. And maybe we should have 112 operating off of 56 states. Maybe we can have 3 million little ones in our pockets. Encased in carbon glass.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Little tiny ones. Well, I was reading, you saw the solid state battery thing like several months ago or last year or whatever? I don't know. They had a breakthrough in solid-state batteries, which are extremely energy-dense. So it's like your phone could last 10 days off one charge or something like that.
Starting point is 01:43:15 But isn't- Crazy. I was about to say, isn't the downside of anything solid-state is that it dies almost instantaneously and at random? It does die. When the solid-state sales go out, they're done. I don't know. I don't know anything about it.
Starting point is 01:43:30 That was kind of like a push against going from just hard disk drives to solid state because, again, solid state drives, there's a finite amount of charges that can pass through and they just eventually become non-functional. Whereas hard disk, you can manually extract the data from it. Captain says, Tim, you keep praising Thomas Massey because he has spicy tweets, but he won't help pass anything in Congress.
Starting point is 01:43:52 He voted against the Trump wall three times with every Dem. He voted against Trump at every turn, including USMCA. He also voted against Lauren Boebert's pro-2A leg. Good criticism. I will accept that, and I will look more into it, but that's a good point. Mostly it's like I see Thomas Massey standing up and saying a lot of things. Okay. We'll take a deeper
Starting point is 01:44:12 look. That's a fair point. Should have been doing it in the first place. You know what we need? We need more pets in Congress. I want to see them bringing in their dogs and their cats. Humanize that. Yeah. It's all positive until the progressive sick of Doberman on somebody across the aisle then oh it'll be exciting if nothing else oh yeah certain i think tom
Starting point is 01:44:30 matt tom's messing his farm that's what made me think oh yeah yeah he can meet some goats and be awesome dave vd says just here to shout out my amazing girlfriend hannah wallace and her album she released on spotify called learn to love me it'll leave you speechless amazing nice job hannah that's right good work alex r says the difference between soviet and american reactors is how to slow down neutrons soviets use graphite we use water slowing neutrons increases the chance for fission chernobyl occurred because graphite won't boil like water, and it sprayed graphite radioactive all in the air, and yeah, it was really bad. Exciting.
Starting point is 01:45:11 CJ says, as a former reactor operator, I love the enthusiasm, but this discussion is making my eyes bleed. Love the show. When the radioactive florbo particle meets the zombo, and then they collide, splitting into 17 quarks. The quarks start spinning, creating a time dilation. Just to say science things.
Starting point is 01:45:32 Start jumping and then when they jump, it generates isoelectricity. Let's just say words. Spinners. Speaking about all that and I don't know the details but Jack keeps on telling me about it like CERN. Apparently
Starting point is 01:45:47 something big's happening with CERN, so that might be interesting. In 2012, it did. I'm big into excitons. That's a cool particle. You're going to have to lecture me on this for sure. That's how you make the antimatter. Corn 5656 says, Hey Tim, been watching
Starting point is 01:46:03 since the beginning of Tomcat's irl and y'all have inspired me to get in shape it allowed me to evaluate my life choices and kick myself in gear ian is the best guru skulls for the skull throne um i tell you this man if you are not in shape and then you get in shape it it's the feeling is amazing, you don't know what you're missing out on. Like always feeling good. I got to say, Flex, I've been looking at your ripped arms. What's your workout regime like? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Look, let's just say I'm probably one of the lucky few that won the genetic lottery of not having very many myostatins. So I don't lose muscle. And I gained a lot of this during a long, robust football career. But honestly, I would say for anybody that wants to at least build respectable arms, high volume. Volume really is king. And if you don't go too high. Low reps? I actually go higher on the reps only because, again, you don't want to go too high. Low reps? Yeah. I actually go higher on the reps
Starting point is 01:47:06 only because, again, you don't want to go too high and wait. You don't want to tear something. When you say high volume, what do you mean exactly? Like lots of rep sets. Sometimes, you know, rest pause sets. Making sure the final number
Starting point is 01:47:18 needs to be as big as possible. Not so much, you know, having super dense rep sets. Just make sure that you get to a certain high amount. Okay. Freedom Thoughts says, watched your segment on dating. Story you read sounds a lot like my situation.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Very few matches. And when I do, they rarely message back. I've had a handful of no-shows. Rural living, so the only place is the bar. Don't want that. So there's this viral post from the other day where this woman she's 33 she said i was trying to help my brother who's 31 date he was having problem with online dating and i said you must be doing something wrong so i'll take your profile i'll put your pictures up i'll set
Starting point is 01:47:53 it up and then i'll send out some messages to get things started for you and show you how to talk to women because clearly you must be doing something wrong then she said i'm totally depressed now there's no there's no matches there's no. Women won't talk to me at all. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong or why it's happening. How can men deal with this? This is a nightmare. For women, you get a response every time you send a message out. You get unlimited – you get massive amounts of matches.
Starting point is 01:48:15 You can go through all the matches, and I'm like, wow. You know, I think men don't understand how women have it. Women don't understand how men have it. But I do think men understand a little bit better how women have it than women understand how men have it. Yeah, that's just my perspective. Maybe I'm wrong. But I do think it's fascinating when you get these feminists saying, like, men have it so, so much better than women. And I'm like, man, five times the homelessness and five times the suicide.
Starting point is 01:48:40 You know, 98% of combat death. Look, everybody's got good things and bad things but i think perspective is important and i think the issue is one of the ways i've explained it is men have no value at as when they're young they have no status no strength they're not they're not they're not adults they don't have muscle mass so there's like very little they can do in terms of lifting stuff for construction or planning things so they're just considered less valuable. Women are prime value is according to evolutionary biology because of they can have kids. And I'm not saying it's a good thing. I think, you know, we as a society have evolved beyond just being like we're baser, you know, just reproducing animals. But what happens then
Starting point is 01:49:19 is we still have these tendencies from evolutionary biology that we overprotect women because they have higher value than men. And then we undervalue men because they can't do much for society based on, again, evolutionary biology. So things start to invert around 30 when men all of a sudden have wealth and status and career and women are no longer in their prime years for having kids. These are things that I think are bad we should consider. If you want to take the feminist approach and be like, women shouldn't be treated this way, you got it. Men shouldn't be treated this way either. So that means we need to make sure that younger men are getting a better shot at things and being treated well.
Starting point is 01:49:52 And women, as they get older, are being treated well. Everybody has equal opportunity. However, there are natural tendencies because of human biology. And what happens in dating? I think the data from OkCupid was that something like the top 10% of men are getting 80% of the women. Yeah. Women don't respond to average men. They have no interest in doing so, and it makes sense.
Starting point is 01:50:13 If every guy messages every woman they can, the woman can scroll through and look for the best-looking guy and be like him and ignore everybody else. Men don't have that option. Yeah, and they've got to pick a litter again. Men have to be the hunters, the gatherers, the forgers, and it's a zero-sum game. like him and ignore everybody else. Men don't have that option. And they've got to pick a litter again. Men have to be the hunters, the gatherers, the forgers. And it's a zero sum game. You know, if you don't have a woman, then it's not like you're, you know,
Starting point is 01:50:34 a new woman's created for you. If you get a woman, then that means that's the one woman that another guy is not going to get to date. So it's, you know, the competition is much higher. I kind of treat it like a video game, man. Online dating is crazy. It's broken. Yeah, the competition is much higher. I kind of treat it like a video game, man. Online dating is crazy. It's broken. Yeah, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Not right. I have no luck online dating. But when I meet women, I have insane. I mean, it's easy. Stick to that. Well, it's the vibe, you know? You can't get that in a picture or a video. It's that when you go out to an event, a bar, a market, whatever, where you naturally meet people, people are walking around and it's fairly 51% men, I mean 51% women, 49% men.
Starting point is 01:51:10 And let's say you're at like an amusement park or you're at a music venue and then you see a woman and you start having a conversation. Yeah, it's because you're like the guy there. You go up and say, hey, how you doing? And then she's like, cool. And you vibe. Online dating, literally every single guy is screaming at the top of their lungs i want a girlfriend all at the same time and the women are
Starting point is 01:51:31 just like uh you let's get out of here so you have no chance to even say hello no right so online dating that's why they did bumble women message first and so i think that's a smarter move because then men don't spam message women. And the issue then still is, though, the OkCupid data that, you know, ugly and average women still try and message attractive guys. They go high and they go high. And unfortunately, we go low. I hate to say that, but. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Grayson Resident says, Tim, as an investor, please check your facts. Tesla earned $788 million last quarter. Regulatory credits excluded. Good point. Well, take that into consideration, everyone else, and then Google it because I was just saying something I read in an article. I'm not well-versed on the Tesla stuff. Dutch R. Jen says, physicist here.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Most NG turbines burn gas directly in the turbine, like a jet engine. Wow. No water needed. There you go. Helium nuke is two P two N hydrogen is just P D versus H fusion is easier as it needs to make less N CO two is what plants eat. The world is getting greener. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 01:52:46 And that's kind of what I said again you know carbon and carbon dioxide is really a problem because we have a system human human body exchanges carbon dioxide plants feed off of it you know they produce oxygen we you know it's a cycle nature heals itself here's here's a good and uh a good interesting and new question rudy c. Winslow says, Ian, what's your opinion on rights? Do you believe they are granted to us by God? I'm just kidding. Don't answer it.
Starting point is 01:53:11 That's a joke. Our Family Video says, I love you guys, but technology isn't really within your scope, looks at Ian. Please try to get Isaac Arthur SFIA. You could have amazing discussions on science and futurism, a truly epic crossover. Yeah, and I'm going to agree with you.
Starting point is 01:53:26 I'm kind of a guy that knows a little bit about a lot of different stuff, and I want to highlight the really important things in society. So sometimes I get a little excited and talk about it a little bit more than I'm comfortable with. I can't fault you for that. I'm the same way. Again, it's kind of a jack-of-all-trades kind of deal. Unfortunately, something just goes lacking sometimes, or sometimes you're not as well-versed
Starting point is 01:53:45 because you're spreading finite time on a bunch of different topics. I try to know enough about it that if I sit down with an expert, I know what they're talking about. You can hold your own, at the very least. DJ Madero says, Tim, Sour Patch Lids, and Ian,
Starting point is 01:54:01 I once had a super chat that asked you to read Arthur C. Clarke's 3001, specifically the Sources and Acknowledgements, Chapter 7, Debriefing. It talks about vacuum energy and what it means. It also ties into Stargate. Interesting. Vacuum energy.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Zero point energy. Dude, the Sworch Child proton. What is that? It's Nassim Harriman's paper about quantum fluctuation, vacuum fluctuation, and every proton in the universe is two protons revolving around each other at the speed of light. And every proton,
Starting point is 01:54:29 everything, he's calculated like done away with a strong force, and if you want to, I think he's basically solved Einstein's field equation of like a unifying field theory. It's called the Schwarzschild proton. Vacuum energy. We're going to get our energy from the vacuum. Yep.
Starting point is 01:54:48 Like the villain in um the incredibles i can't remember him uh what was his name syndrome yeah that's right neo ritter says you need to watch legend of the galactic heroes anime about two protagonists in diametrically opposed government systems. One a dictatorship, the other democracy. Watch the OG OVA first. Have you read Death Note or seen it? I got into it at some point, but I think when L and Lightnet. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:55:18 Oh. No, it's fine. We can spoil it. It's a 20-year-old show. What are the rules on spoilers? I don't know but when l enlightened that was kind of where i i just got it was like holy oh dude it's such a good show if you're not familiar you know death now right i've seen a few episodes yeah switched
Starting point is 01:55:34 and then you get a notebook and then you write someone's name in it and they'll die as you say it as long as within the realm of possibility so this dude basically says he'll start he starts watching the tv and then writing down the names of all these criminals and if he doesn't give a reason they have a heart attack because he wants the world to know that criminals are dying of a heart attack it's not it's not a coincidence and then l is this world him as detective trying to track him down but i bring it up because there is a new one shot with donald trump in it there is a donald trump There is a death note comic after the series where some kid gets a hold of it and then uses the dark web or something to auction off the death note. Now that everyone knows what
Starting point is 01:56:13 it is, Donald Trump offers an obscene amount of money for it, like $50 trillion or something, because he doesn't want other countries to get it. Literally, Donald Trump is in it. And then what he does, I'm not going to spoil it, actually. It is relatively new, and you should read it, because it's hilarious. And it's a good comic, and Trump's in it. There you go. And you can see how it plays out. It's interesting. What more could you want? Yeah. Donald
Starting point is 01:56:35 Trump, anime, all that good stuff. Got it. We need it. We needed that Trump anime that never came. Poofy says Malcolm is literally swole Doge meme. Yes. Correct. Can we get a pen over here?
Starting point is 01:56:49 There you go. There you go. You got it. This ain't even my QB second weight. This is me in a streamlined form. Did you play all over the linebackers? Are you playing the line? Linebackers and tight end.
Starting point is 01:57:00 Although, again, tight ends, I actually got phased out at some point because we wanted the new sleek, fast models that run all the routes and catch did you play left right and center linebacker just move around um pretty much just inside linebacker but also when i started out with the outside linebacker so designated pass rusher basically all right harvey slayer says we need journalists like you to create online profiles on every state federal politician and record their political stances, votes, scandals, and overall performance.
Starting point is 01:57:31 The people need to be better informed so they can keep, so they can hold them accountable. Is there a website that can show you all their votes? I'm pretty sure there is. Could be, should be a blockchain. Well, I think the issue is that
Starting point is 01:57:42 it does exist. I think you can go to like congress.gov and stuff or bill tracker, but they're not easy. I want to be able to see, like, a picture of everyone in Congress, and you can, like, click them, and then it says latest votes, and it's really easy to see. Latest bills, latest proposals, latest votes, latest news articles. And then when they get voted out we put them into like you know hall of fame not hall of fame just like historical record you can go back and look at different politicians and what they voted on and it stores it i think we just need an easy streamlined system
Starting point is 01:58:15 that does like a smart contract blockchain i know we have and we would embed c-span so that like even when you go there you can see active voting and then we would have staff who watch it and then enter it in in real time. I sure wish we could get Joe Biden's old voting records unsealed. Are they actually sealed? Yes. Some of the nice colorful stuff. I'd love that.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Did he seal them or were they always sealed? That's actually a question. I'm not 100% sure. Political Defiant got me. He says, name of the anime you spoke of. It's Arefureta. From commonplace spoke of. It's Arefureta. From commonplace to world's strongest. Arefureta.
Starting point is 01:58:49 I'm pronouncing it probably terribly. Also, if we do go towards nuclear, how do we deal with waste? In fact, what should we do with all the waste? Futurama. Futurama it to the sun. Tim, Ian, Lids, and Malcolm, have a great one. Yes. Launch it into the sun.
Starting point is 01:59:04 I guess the nuclear batteries, that's what I've been thinking about lately. Yeah, Ian, Lids, and Malcolm, have a great one. Yes. Launching into the sun. I guess the nuclear batteries, that's what I've been thinking about lately. Yeah, nuclear waste would be great. I mean, that nuclear battery idea is like, you know, that's mind-blowing. It kind of does away with centralized power grids that will all have our own batteries. But that's the problem though. It decentralized it.
Starting point is 01:59:20 Where are we trending towards? Everything people, you know, the powers that be will never allow that to happen. And you need funding to make it happen. M. Shiba says Obama was in the manga Air Gear as John Omaha. But I'm pretty sure in the Death Note one-off, it's literally Donald Trump. Call Donald Trump in the presidential office saying, I want to buy the Death Note. You know, I'll just tell you this.
Starting point is 01:59:45 He doesn't get it. Wait, don't spoil it. Oh, no, I think he does. I think he does get it. I don't remember, actually. All I know is it would be amazing if they actually did a one-shot where it's Trump with the death note.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Oh, man, that would be a great skit where Trump's sitting there like by himself in the Oval Office and he's like, Joe Biden is so awful. I'm going to write his name. Hillary Clinton should be in prison. That's her. What's got to happen is –
Starting point is 02:00:09 And then he can manifest things other than just dying. He gets the death note and lightning strikes and he cleaves into two realities, one where he becomes evil with the death note and one where he becomes just. Dude, speaking of the two realities, man, I'm still mad that somewhere off in prime timeline Earth, President Alex Jones is sending Secretary of Defense Michael Malice to negotiate a treaty with China. And we're missing that. That's prime Earth? That's probably prime Earth. I'm sorry, we're Clowniverse 443. So, yeah, we are the Clowniverse.
Starting point is 02:00:43 I don't know. I think we were in Earth Prime, and then the Large Hadron Collider turned on in 2016 and caused Earth Prime to shake and jostle between some alternate realities. And I'll tell you this. It wasn't that there was a clean jump to another reality. It was like all of a sudden a bunch of realities slammed together and random particles mixed so all of a sudden it's like you have a little bit of random everything Republicans become Democrats Democrats become Republicans Trump gets elected
Starting point is 02:01:12 2012 CERN and the first thing that came up was sorry but we accidentally ended the world in 2012 there you go that's crazy I'm sorry but think about this what if everybody is actually living in pocket dimensions There you go. Oh, that's crazy. I'm sorry, but think about this. What if everybody is actually living in pocket dimensions and Democrats are actually living in a dimension where COVID really is as bad as they think. And we're in like the real and we're like in a different dimension where COVID is actually not that bad. You know, we're all free.
Starting point is 02:01:41 And then like, what if there's like this whole. The holofractographic universe. That's another Nassim Harriman theory. This guy's a genius. We should do a and then like what if there's like this whole the holofractographic universe that's another nasum harriman theory this guy's a genius we should do a spoof of what if have you guys seen what if on disney oh yeah i saw it the watchers watching all these different universes we should we should make a spoof version of like what if but real life in this universe donald trump never won the election infant do you have infinite material there, too? Oh, my God. That actually would be really fun to do a real-life political. Like, what if Joe Biden didn't win and, like, Tulsi Gabbard became president?
Starting point is 02:02:13 Reenact it. Put up a fan poll each week and, you know, what episode would you like to see? And then, like, give them options. They choose which one. What if Ian Crossland started TimCast and then hired Tim Pool? Oh, yeah. Wow. That would be tasty.
Starting point is 02:02:27 But it would be funny because you would literally be just wearing the same thing as me and talking like me. And I'd be sitting there talking about DMT and stuff. But that would be surreal. That would be awesome. That would still be surreal. My mind would be blown. All right, everybody. If you haven't already, give us a like, subscribe to the channel, and go to TimCast.com because that member segment is coming up maybe around 11 p.m. or so.
Starting point is 02:02:48 But thanks for hanging out. Share the show with your friends if you like it. You can follow me at TimCast basically everywhere. You can follow the show for cool clips at TimCast.irl. Malcolm, do you want to shout out anything? Oh, yeah, certainly. First of all, obviously, go follow me. I'm ReturnOfTheFlex on Twitter. certainly um first of all obviously uh go follow me i'm return of the flex on twitter and also
Starting point is 02:03:07 while you're at it visit flex your success.com that's where you can find me on other social media if you i do all kinds of different coaching advisement you know we can you can fill out a form if you want to get into e-commerce and talk about that kind of stuff and also we're starting a decentralized network on telegram of content proliferation started by l and she goes by a name that's a little bit unclean so i can't really say it on here but great great person we've got so many personalities that are too spicy for the world i think we're up to like 30 something and we're growing and we're just spreading memes information dank content you can send it wherever you want and get your information unfiltered.
Starting point is 02:03:47 So it's like the coolest Twitter timeline that you've ever been a part of, not on Twitter. That's awesome because we're building out the Fediverse right now and that's something that could integrate into that system. I would love it. Excellent. All my yes. All right.
Starting point is 02:04:00 Hey guys, love you. Thank you for coming. Thank you for keeping me honest in the comments every day. Looking forward to seeing you again tomorrow. Have a great day. Thanks, Ian. And you guys all know that you are, in fact, contractually obligated to click the like button when you watch our stream, right? All of you. We have 10,000, but we had like 33,000. I'm just kidding. It's fine. Hit like if you like it because it does help in the algorithm. And if you would share it, we would appreciate that as well, because you know they're all out to get us.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Anyway, you guys are welcome to follow me at Sour Patch Liz on Twitter, although I have achieved my goal of surpassing Sour Patch Kids in numbers, and I can die happy now. Thanks, guys. Don't rest on your laurels. I know, I know. We will see all of you over at TimCast.com. Thanks for hanging out.
Starting point is 02:04:38 Bye, guys.

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