Timcast IRL - Timcast IRL #379 - Over 30k Illegal Immigrants Break Through US Border w/Ed Calderon

Episode Date: September 25, 2021

Tim, Ian, and Lydia host Ed Calderon, non-permissive environment specialist and former Mexican enforcement officer, to discuss the recent news of 30,000 migrants being released into the US, the strang...e case of the cartel and the avocado market, the lack of guards on the US border, the idea of a 'North American union', Mexico's greatest resource, and what has worsened the condition in Mexico. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Happy Friday, everybody. This country seems to be on fire in a bunch of different ways, and that fire is burning brightly today. We have a new story that apparently 30,000 Haitian illegal immigrants entered the country. A bunch of them are missing. 17,000 are apparently being allowed to stay, and I guess what happens, you get enough of these people at the border, the government panics because of the bad press and says, just let them all in.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Just they can do whatever they want. Just make the pictures go away. It's kind of where we're at. So you know what? We're going to talk a lot about that stuff because we're hanging out with Ed Calderon. And you're an expert, man. Do you want to introduce yourself? Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:00:34 My name is Ed. I worked for the Mexican government for about 12 years doing counter-narcotics work, working against people traffickers, working against cartels, and specifically kind of spending a lot of time and experiencing the border on the southern side of it, you know, looking at some of these problems firsthand. Currently, we work and train people across the country from Border Patrol to FBI, Secret Service, people that just want to be safe. And a lot of the things that I showcase and kind of show people are directly related to that experience that I had down there.
Starting point is 00:01:09 And there's apparently, I don't know if this is too off the beaten path, but you're mentioning weird occult stuff too. Yeah. Stuff that goes on down there with unsolved murders. I do training for law enforcement stateside related to Mexican occultism and criminal occultism. Whoa. That's going to be fun. We'll talk about that. Sure.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Right on. You know, basically showing them, you know, the current versions and symbology and trends as far as Santa Muerte, the veneration of Malverde, which is like a Mexican Robin Hood, to how some of these groups utilize some of these things in a ritualistic fashion to create fear in their enemies or to initiate people within their ranks by having them do crazy things like eating somebody's heart, you know. Right on. Well, that sounds like it'll be a fun conversation.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I'm glad you're here. Thanks. Hey, good to see you, buddy. Ian Crossland, happy to be here. Thanks, Tim. Yeah, I'm in the corner as well. I was just texting with one of my friends. He's like, yo, I'm at this class with Ed Calderon.
Starting point is 00:02:09 I was like, oh, that's crazy because we're having him just next week. So I'm very excited to have him. I'm excited to hear what's going on on the border. I'm afraid it's going to be depressing, but I'm looking forward to being informed. But don't forget to go to TimCast.com, become a member. We've got a bunch of really awesome content journalists. We are set to launch two new members- shows i believe by next week one of them is really simple it's called the green room when guests show up we got people hanging out in the green room we just
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Starting point is 00:03:06 to the best of our abilities. And don't forget to like this video, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends. Now let's talk about what's going on in the news with this border crisis. We got the story from the Daily Mail. Mayorkas admits 30,000 Haitian migrants
Starting point is 00:03:20 entered the US as Del Rio campus finally cleared. Homeland security boss doubles previous figure as he revealed 17,400 are applying to stay. 8,000 have been deported, but 2,600 are missing. Now, here's the crazy thing. Apparently, there's a bunch of Chilean and Brazilian IDs these guys have. So they were saying these are refugees. Like, oh, no, there's an earthquake in Haiti.
Starting point is 00:03:39 They're refugees. What's happened here? So they've already been given refugee status by another country. That's why they have the IDs, which is an interesting, you know, I don't know a lot about immigration law here. Being an immigrant myself, I did a little research. But they were already given refugee status by another country. So that's why they have those IDs.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Those are part of their packages to be given that status in those countries. So do you know the specific details about why they're coming here, just economic migration? I mean, so things are economically pretty bad in a lot of places in South America. A lot of Haitians actually stayed in Mexico, for example, and a lot of them were giving the refugee status in Mexico. After Trump lost the elections and after Biden came into power, there was a massive kind of like
Starting point is 00:04:33 spike in chatter and conversations in some of these Facebook groups attached to the migrant caravan groups that are out there. That's how they communicate. And the main narrative that was pushed forth is that the doors are open. Come now. You were saying before the show,
Starting point is 00:04:50 there's like massive networks of Facebook groups that are all like organized just to get people across the board. Yeah. And it's interesting. I mean, they're kind of automated. Like as soon as something changes or shifts like that, Oh,
Starting point is 00:05:00 don't go to Tijuana this time. Go to go through Texas. Don't go to, don't go through California. Go through Texas. Don't go through California. Go to Texas now. That's modern warfare. Having a bunch of network groups automated to tell people, oh, hey, now to push a message that triggers a reaction. And then what happens is you've got to think about fourth and fifth generation of warfare, which you cite very often. But in today's day and age, you can't send a plane with a bomber you can't send a fighter you're going to
Starting point is 00:05:26 spark an actual hot kinetic war but you can send disruptive forces you can you can disrupt local economies you can spread political ideology or you can create a migrant crisis which exhausts our resources um you you see a script being handed out to these people as far as what they need to say. You see advice to people. Oh, if you can't make the trip but you have young children, have your children make the trip for you. So they can later on claim you and chain migration can happen. How does chain migration work? If I get granted citizenship, I can then ask for my parents to also be granted.
Starting point is 00:06:06 So you can sponsor people? So if you, as a legal citizen, right? Let's say you know somebody who lives in the Philippines. You could sponsor them and assume, I think it's 10 years of financial liability for the individual. And it makes it substantially easier for them to come. Not perfectly easy, but substantially easier for them. So you get these kids that will come. The parents will bring their kids.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Once the kids are old enough, they say, I sponsor my parents. If the person who sponsored accrues any public debt, then the person who sponsored them has to pay for it. So you basically can just – Is it easier to sponsor family than friends? Yeah. It's hard to sponsor friends. And a lot of these kids that you see on the border that are being smuggled over,
Starting point is 00:06:46 I mean, they're not voluntarily taking the trip. There's a few videos out there. I've actually posted some of those videos on my Instagram account, which shows them they're clearly being...
Starting point is 00:06:57 I mean, we had some medical professionals comment on there. I don't know. That's not my field, but I'm actually experiencing people under the effects of things like rouhipnol.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Wow. What's it called? Rufi? Rufi. Oh, wow. I've seen people under the effects of that with the lack of dilation. So why do you think this weird stuff is happening where they're giving out scripts and they're sending out these mass messages? I mean, it seems to be like an organized attempt on just moving a bunch of people into this country.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And when I say organized attempt, I was in Tijuana for the first caravan when it hit there. And it was clearly organized. People are being transported. Organizers were being paid in dollars. The camps were being set up in certain places and were being completely supplied and funded by people from California driving down and giving them supplies. With this current version of it, you see people waiting on the other side of the border for some of these people as soon as they cross and getting basically distributed across the country. You see people on the southern border of Mexico, as soon as they cross,
Starting point is 00:08:08 basically catch them with buses and organizing their transport on the way up. So it's a whole logistical process that's being organized by somebody. Are they bringing them from South America or are they there waiting to catch them when they enter Mexico? I mean, they are basically, the whole advice that they're given
Starting point is 00:08:23 on some of these social media groups is to amass or organize in groups. It's safer for them, right? Different than it was with the last Honduran, kind of mostly Honduran migrant caravan. One of the reasons they avoided going through the central part of Mexico into Texas was because most of the members of this caravan were actually 18th Street gang members, which traditionally have a rivalry with the 13 Mara Salvatrucha people. So that's why they went all the way through California to avoid that. But these guys are Haitians, so they don't have that problem.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Well, Chilean Haitians. They don't have that problem, so that's why they went straight into that spot. Any ideas why they're trying to get all these people to come to the U.S.? I know people on the internet have a lot of ideas. I mean, it's an interesting way of disrupting your economy. I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:17 if you have enemies abroad, you have people sending chemists to show cartel groups how to make fentanyl in Mexico. You have people sending chemists to show cartel groups how to make fentanyl in Mexico. You have fentanyl-laced heroin exploding all across this country, and it's being produced in Mexico. And you have a cartel group in Mexico that grew exponentially during the COVID epidemic, and the only reason it did so was because it had access to the Pacific side seaports and an open relationship with a supplier from China.
Starting point is 00:09:47 That's what I was going to ask, China. Seems obvious. It's pretty a lot of people in Mexico that observe these things closely, and I have a lot of friends that are still active. It sort of feels more and more like China planned our downfall 50 years ago and we're catching it at the last minute. It's too late. It's, I mean, from my experience looking at some of these things progressing, you see this new cartel down there, the Cartel de Jalisco de Nueva Generación, the new generation cartel.
Starting point is 00:10:21 A lot of videos on them on social media where they have all this military equipment and they're raising their rifles and stuff like that um they are expanding like a different a dramatic rate across the country and people don't realize they can't figure out how it is possible for these groups to be expanding and they're like well i mean they're a violent group and they have connections in mexico and mexico they have they're obviously a proxy group for somebody externally and then you realize that on the state state side these criminal groups are using chinese banking apps to hide their money to send back to mexico so wow and also fentanyl just just the massive amounts of fentanyl being brought into Mexico and now being produced in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:11:09 People say, oh, criminal groups in China are smuggling it out. That's not how China works. There's not a secret Chinese criminal enterprise that doesn't talk to the government out there. If it's coming out of China, it's Chinese state that knows about it. Legalized weed brought fields of classically planted marijuana fields turned into poppy fields in Mexico. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:11:37 So we've got to legalize opiates now so that the fields will turn into what? Methlabs? The heroin out there Is not that strong Not like the Afghani stuff So they
Starting point is 00:11:50 Laced it with fentanyl Wow So they legalized weed In Mexico And then they started Planting opiate As soon as you saw The legalization of weed
Starting point is 00:11:57 In California Some of the crops Changed into poppy And this is around The time of the Prescription opiate epidemic And how it was Kind of waning down And they were ready for something else and that something else was
Starting point is 00:12:09 fentanyl laced heroin and now the new thing is bogus pain medication laced with fentanyl so now you're finding weird pain presses pill presses in mexico and they're manufacturing something that looks like a but this is killing their own customers. That is the suspicious part of it. Yeah. Classically, cartels didn't react, behave that way. Seeing a law cartel wouldn't behave that way.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Right. But this is a new breed of militarized narco-insurgency that is probably a proxy group of somebody outside of the country. China. I don't know. That's the opium wars.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Come on. Who else would it be? They play the long game't know. That's the opium wars. Come on. Who else would it be? They played a long game. And I mean, the opium wars technically ended 170 years ago, but I don't think they ever ended. They don't want to get back. Yeah, I heard that with Afghanistan that the Taliban shut down the poppy fields. But then as soon as we came back in, we started them back up.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Is that true? I don't know if that's true. I don't have any experience in the Middle East. I do have friends that were out there, and they say that that was part of the actions of the U.S. in Afghanistan was to protect some of those fields. Wow. There's images of American troops in poppy fields. I imagined that they were real. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Now, you mentioned that when legalized marijuana came to the States, a lot of these fields turned to poppy. I was down in Mexico. This is almost two years ago now. And I heard from a lot of people that when marijuana became legal and they couldn't make money off it, they started just hijacking avocado companies. Yeah. That's true? Well, not just hijacking, but paid protection. So Mexico has cartel groups, not just one.
Starting point is 00:13:44 They have several. They have a few big ones. But one of the ways they operate and one of the ways they make money is not just selling drugs or trafficking drugs to the U.S. They also control a large local giant drug market and abductions for ransom and paid protection rackets. We recently had somebody get a pipe bomb for their birthday because he refused to pay for protection in the state of Guanajuato. Protection from them. From the cartels. From themselves.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yeah. So what you saw with some of these avocado orchards and some of the auto defense or the self-defense groups that grew out of some of these conflicts out there, they would go to an avocado orchard. Avocados in Mexico and the industry around them are just multi-million dollar industries. They grow on trees, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But there's like a lot of them down there. Wow. I would love to have an avocado tree. That'd be awesome. That'd be pretty great. They said, oh, this is a good business you have here. It would be a shame if somebody burned it all down or abducted you, so give us money to protect you.
Starting point is 00:14:51 That's how it works. And the cops, there's no cops. There's no, the cartels are the police. So, I mean, that's, in some areas in Mexico. So what's the difference? They come to you and say, if you don't pay up, we'll drag you out of your house at gunpoint. It sounds the same here.
Starting point is 00:15:07 You don't pay taxes. No, I'm kidding. Not paying taxes in the U.S. is a civil violation, I guess. Yeah. But, I mean, let me ask you, though. If the cartel shows up and says, you're going to pay us to protect you, and you say, okay, here's the money, they'll actually protect you from criminals. Yeah, it's true. I mean, I had the surreal experience of driving on a road in Sinaloa
Starting point is 00:15:26 that was cartel-made better than the public roads, right? Of course. So during the COVID epidemic, on the news, not even on the news, just the social media, you would see the cartels handing out supplies to people. You would see cartels enforcing mask mandates in some places. If we find you without a mask outside, we'll get you with a board. Wow.
Starting point is 00:15:52 That's one way to enforce a mandate. So in a lot of ways, they are the government in some places. I mean, there's no fly zones over some cities because they will put down your helicopter. Wow. So, yes, that's the thing with Mexico. In the U.S. as well, the U.S. refuses to recognize that its neighbor is not governed by a single entity. I mean, not publicly. It doesn't say it.
Starting point is 00:16:14 It refuses to recognize that Mexico doesn't have a crime problem and has an insurgency problem. And it's not fighting an insurgency group. It's fighting several narco-insurgencies which meet every single part of a definition of a terrorist group. I mean, if somebody sends you a pipe bomb for your birthday, what is that group doing?
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah. If you don't pay your taxes, that won't happen. You get a knock on the door and some guy in a suit will be like, you need to pay your taxes, and you'll be like, okay. I'm taking you to court. I mean, the amount in Jalisco alone has somewhere around 10,000 people that are missing or bodies that were found, clandestine graves. So it's mass graves are found in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Wow. Because of cartels specifically? I mean, yeah, cartels specifically. You were talking earlier about the Juarez killing fields. I've never heard of these until. Can you explain what those are a little bit? It's a phenomenon that happened in Juarez back in the early 2000s where basically women were found murdered, raped, and ritualistically killed
Starting point is 00:17:13 in a lot of parts in the desert in Juarez, mostly women that worked in some of the maquiladoras, basically the large industrial plants that work out there. A lot of weird rumors around that. There was a lot of the media and the government in Mexico was saying it was cartel related because that's the easiest thing to say.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Oh, somebody died? Somebody was killed? He's probably involved in the cartel. That's the way they just get rid of... Easy out. 90% of most of... Over 90% of all murders in Mexico were never solved.
Starting point is 00:17:41 So it's a perfect place for that. At what point does a gang become a cartel? Like, what's the difference, really? I mean, a cartel specifically, if you're a large enough group where you have influences and or fear on behalf of the police towards you, you're a criminal enterprise. If you tax people to start their businesses where you control, if you are in control of a drug route up into the United States or if you traffic drugs yourself, I think you're kind of there. I guess the definition of a cartel has to do with merchandising, manufacturing, and distribution. So I guess if you're going back to the old trope of the mafia, it was just the local group being like, you're going to pay us or we're gonna smash your face up we'll protect you you know protection racket that's more like mob stuff
Starting point is 00:18:28 but uh with the cartels it's specifically around the products and the manufacturing and the distribution so i guess a lot for a lot of drugs i think specifically one thing i've always tried to do is just tell people to realize that these guys are defining themselves now i mean it's a whole new definition uh you you have a country like U.S. that wants to not label them a terrorist organization, probably because of immigration. Well, Trump wanted to send the army down. Remember that? Yeah, but I think it was a pressure thing they did to Mexico to try to get them to enforce their own borders.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Right. So I think the only reason why you won't label the cartels a terrorist organization is because now people fleeing from Mexico have a legal claim to asylum because now they're leaving a terrorist group that the U.S. in some way, shape, or form. But the reality is if they are acting like a terrorist group, then those people really are fleeing. Yeah. Well, I mean, there's whole towns, ghost towns in Mexico, people that fled cartel terrorism, basically, that people that go into. This is crazy to me. Like, it's self-destructive. I mean, why would the cartels do something that would negatively impact the economy that they want to benefit from? Again, these groups get formed, grow, leadership gets killed.
Starting point is 00:19:43 One cartel turns into two. A 40-year-old cartel head is now a 25-year-old guy after the other guy got killed. And it's a chaotic thing. We talk a lot about the COVID stuff. So I don't want to get into specifics of COVID, but basically like a virus. We've talked about how Ebola is a bad virus in that it's so extreme that people become debilitated or get quarantined or noticeably sick.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And that limits the ability for it to spread. And the viruses that are quote unquote good or successful are the ones that your body doesn't react to. So the virus infects every single human possible and flourishes and lives on because it's not causing too much damage. I think about these cartels and I'm like, if you've got a town and people are doing stuff, you can extract,
Starting point is 00:20:32 you can steal from those people, but there's a fine line, right? It's the goose that, it's killing the goose that lays the golden egg. And so you eventually find out, you know, this story reminds me of, or like is similar, I guess to like the virus. They become so extreme, they burn out the area, cause everyone to flee and then there's nothing the to like the virus they become so extreme they burn out the area cause everyone to flee and there's nothing left to get and then they have to leave
Starting point is 00:20:49 there's nothing there for any for them anymore yeah i mean sinaloa the state of sinaloa and culiacan specifically is a pretty good example of the of you know how some of these cartels classically operate um the mexican president went to sinaloa and shook hands with El Chapo's mom and talked to his lawyer. And then a few years later, two years later, he went and did a meeting with the local poppy and weed growers. Like this televised with the head of the army next to him and said, People are bringing fentanyl in from china and all these chemicals like what about the poppy field growers and what about the weed growers like what about us we need to support the local economy right so that's great which president was it this is
Starting point is 00:21:35 andres manuel lopez operador that's really wow him huh he's a he's a pro maduro pro venezuela guy he's to the he's way to the left i heard that he does these things in the morning where he comes out into his balcony and starts yelling to the people. Is that true? He does that every Mexican Independence Day. What he does is a thing called Los Mañaneros, which basically goes on a rant for about an hour
Starting point is 00:21:58 of different subjects. The last one was he was demanding to Spain to apologize for the conquest. What? Wow. I mean, most Mexicans are a mixture of native and Spanish. We're all kind of mixed.
Starting point is 00:22:15 It's a weird thing to kind of focus on when the country's burning. So let me ask you about the border, man. When you heard this large man with orange skin and swirly blonde hair say, build a wall, what was your initial reaction with your experience being on the border? The fence, because it was a fence, not a wall. The fence had already been built up and was already kind of highly secure in places like the border between Tijuana and San Diego. And drug prices, specifically cocaine, have been stable for 30 years. So it means that that doesn't realistically, as far as a safety feature for the United States,
Starting point is 00:22:56 a counter-narcotic feature or safety to keep the bad people out. Isn't there like a point where the fence just goes to the water and you can just go around it? Yes. Yes, there is. And there's always a bunch of Border Patrol there and they'll tackle you if you try it. They'll just throw you back on the other side or what? No, they'll tackle you, they'll put you in a processing center and then put you on a bus and then you'll be walked across
Starting point is 00:23:18 San Ysidro probably in a few, like right now the way things are, like it's the next day I think, you know. Doesn't that seem insane? That like you're on one side of the fence and you walk over and they grab you and then do all of this crazy administrative work instead of just pushing you back and back? Yeah, no, no. They just want to grab you and process you and then send you back,
Starting point is 00:23:33 which is an amazing drain of resources. Right. Another thing, right now, during the whole Haitian push into the U.S., a lot of the checkpoints around the area that were usually manned for counter-narcotic interdiction stuff completely abandoned and you you hear chatter on the southern side of the border with some of the guys that are you know crossing the border not to migrate but the with loads on their backs it's christmas wait wait so u.s border patrol is not manning these u.s border patrol abandoned
Starting point is 00:24:06 most of their posts uh specifically some of their you know some of their uh roadblocks that they have and also some of the the counter narcotic interdiction stuff that the that they usually do in some places uh a lot of these places where ghost towns are abandoned because they were all concentrated on that specific uh border area uh and also just hearing some of the conversations here and some of the people that i used to work with south on the south side of the border they're all saying it's not be that it's christmas you know are they cats are away are they walking across the border they going through tunnels are they sending drones all of us all of it uh is this i found one of the first drones that ever crashed
Starting point is 00:24:45 in tijuana when i was active is this is this the biden administration or just what i mean the borders open the borders open the borders open and also these massive immigration um influx into united states put every single most of your already outstretched resources into a single spot, which means it's Christmas for trafficking. Everywhere else. Yeah. Bullets and guns from the north to the south and cash. This country is being strangled out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Strangled. Slow demise. It's a pillow over the face of America right now. And, again, this border crisis is making millions and millions of dollars for people that are just waiting for the cat to go, to be busy somewhere else. This is tunnels. There's somewhere over 50 to 60 active tunnels on the border.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I talked about fully submersibles way back in the day. Nobody believed me about those. Those have already been found. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They're using submarines to smuggle stuff and people and... Drugs. Drugs. You wouldn't use something as valuable as a fully submersible submarine for people
Starting point is 00:25:59 because then the people have a tendency to talk, you know? I came here in a submarine. But yeah, fully submersibles, drones, a squadron of drones, catapults, small catapults. Oh, I heard these stories. They launch them over the... Trebuchets. At the first time, when I saw one, I saw one in Mexicali. And I saw it and I was like, that's a trebuchet.
Starting point is 00:26:23 How do you know that word? I watched the JPBS one. I think I learned about them. And so they're flinging drugs over. They fling drug loads over. They RC cars, electric control remote cars, RC cars just speed out there. Drones, tunnels. People that have border crossing cards, like there's a sentry program in places like Baja
Starting point is 00:26:45 where people that cross the border regularly get extra verified by the U.S. And cartels are aware of this, so they see, oh, you're a sentry pass guy? Let me put some load on the bottom of your car because you're already a trusted traveler, and that's an easy way to get drugs into the country. It's like the thing that kids do
Starting point is 00:27:02 when you're shopping at a 7-Eleven, and then your friend puts a candy bar in your hood so you don't know it's happening and you walk just like normally out of the store and you're not acting suspicious and the kid walks up and it's like, yeah. Yeah, that only with a, you know, key of coke. You know, that happens a lot on the border. A kilogram of
Starting point is 00:27:20 Coca-Cola. Just a two liter, I guess. Yeah, some booger sugar. It's a classic story. A lot of people get caught like that. of coca-cola yeah just the two liter i guess right yeah some booger sugar uh it's it's uh it's a classic story down there a lot of people get caught like that and it's again these guys are just looking for holes in the already whole written wall um so trump was right he was right about what the securing the border in general i mean securing the border specifically you uh so what you're saying is trump is correct and we should build a big, beautiful 30-foot concrete wall from sea to shining sea? I mean, I think a wall is not feasible.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'm kidding. But I mean like in terms of like focusing on the borders and we've got serious problems here. Yeah, so there's serious problems with things coming from the U.S. into Mexico. That's part of the issue. It's not just things coming into the U.S. Oh, what's happening the other way? Bullets. Kidnappings. Bullets into Mexico. That's part of the issue. It's not just things coming into the U.S. Oh, what's happened another way? Bullets. Bullets, guns.
Starting point is 00:28:06 That's right. Well, to be fair, Obama gave those people those guns, so that was a fair deal. That's the Fast and Furious program. It was bad, but... That's like CIA delivering weapons to... I mean, I don't know a lot about the Fast and Furious on the U.S. side. I just know it was a program started by the Bush administration specifically
Starting point is 00:28:22 and then continuing on with the Obama administration. Two of my friends were killed by some of those guns. Wow. FN-57 pistols. One of them was coming out of his house with his daughter in the backseat and his wife. Him and his wife got killed, and the daughter lost an arm. Oh, my gosh. The kids that shot them had FN-57 pistols, 18- and 19-year-olds.
Starting point is 00:28:45 You were working border security for Mexico, though. I was not working border security. I was working generalized regional security, basically. But a lot of our work was basically working against people that were trying to get stuff through the border or trying to get things from the U.S. How does that work with the cartels then, right? Because the government's certainly not in complete control. No. How does that work with the cartels then, right? Because the government's certainly not in complete control. No.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I mean, realistically, there's no border security in Mexico. There's a place where people cross by and there's border agents, but they're looking for taxable goods. They're not looking for it. Every now and then they'll get contraband, people trying to smuggle guns or bullets in. But they're really realistically not looking to secure the border on the Mexican side. And the government itself has a case of amnesia every six years when the new president comes in. Everything gets, you know, all this
Starting point is 00:29:33 was successful, this was failure, everything's bad. Get rid of all of it. I'm going to start this new thing. And they just change the name of the police, change the uniform, and same corrupt people come in. Yeah, they're in on it. Why give up? It's cash.
Starting point is 00:29:48 All their pockets are getting greased, right? That's the thing. And I went through two terms of that, basically 12 years working down there. It's unwinnable. Do you think there's any value to the U.S. of Mexico and the U.S. of America to become one country? The whole concept of a North American union? Well, I think the U.S. needs to realize, I mean, I hear a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:30:12 just close the border, you know? Just pull the wall, close the border. That's our second largest trade partner, right? We could, however, if we annex Canada and Mexico, conscript the Canadians to fight the cartel's force. Yeah, sure. Just send them down there and feed them pancakes. Put down the F in 570. That's probably...
Starting point is 00:30:30 Well, it's another funny thing. When Trump was in presidency and the border was a bit harder to get across, cartel people smugglers would just fly people to Canada. Oh, really? Yeah, that was one of the ways. They would just fly people to Canada. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah. That was one of the ways. They would just fly people to Canada, and they just walked down. That's clever. There are places in Canada where you can see these videos on Reddit where it's like there'll be a teenager standing in between.
Starting point is 00:30:57 It'll be like US-Canadian border, and it's just like a chain going across two orange posts, and there's no one anywhere near it. There's one part where, I think it's in Minnesota, where it's the honor system. You drive in, pull up to a booth, go up to the booth. It's like a little shack. You go inside, pick up the phone and say, hi.
Starting point is 00:31:17 You give me your name and say, I'm entering the country. They say, okay, thank you, and then you hang up and then you drive off. Yeah. That will never happen, I think, on the southern border, but it's an interesting thing i mean it feels like it's worse well people just walking through like they don't even have the phone call they don't have a phone call yeah there's our there's videos uh there's trail videos and and rancher videos in texas of just guys and with ak's on their backs and dressed
Starting point is 00:31:39 in like uh camo and stuff like that from cartel groups basically armed cartel groups in texas just you know moving around and just coming back and what if what if like what if somebody has property up against the border and then they see some dude with like an ak coming from the border crossing onto their property i mean do they have a right to defend their property and stop this guy is like i mean i think they do have a right to defend their property and they have the means if they're in texas the problem is that these people can get to you yeah these do have a right to defend their property and they have the means if they're in Texas. The problem is that these people can get to you. These people have a reach and their reach is independent on them crossing the border. Another weird myth that Americans have is that, oh, we don't want – they're coming into this country.
Starting point is 00:32:19 They want the cartels here. They're coming. They have been here for years. They have blood ties in this country. They're in the military. They're in the military. cartels here they're they're coming they have been here for years yeah they have they have uh blood ties into in this country they have they're in the military they're in the military they're in the border patrol they're in uh they're in politics apparently you know they're they're everywhere um and uh you you you this this border this border the border fence and the border itself they crossed it years back and it's a place like Chicago, a place like L.A.
Starting point is 00:32:48 When they legalized weed, some of these groups had already gone into the, you know, they were already producing weed, right? So they went into the illegal weed and illegal weed industry. They did both. They were growing illegal weed in federal lands on the U.S. side. Wow. So they are here. I hear a lot of people talking about military intervention in Mexico. It's not Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:33:12 It's not Iraq. It's right there, and also it's right here. If that happens, it's going to be an interesting conflict because I don't think it's going to be like any conflict this country has ever fought. Specifically, it's going to be an interesting conflict because I don't think it's going to be like any conflict this country has ever fought. Specifically, it's going to be really close. I mean, they have presence. Many of these cartels have a presence in all the big cities. I know there's graffiti all over Chicago.
Starting point is 00:33:36 In New York, there was some big story 10 years ago about MS-13 operating in New York City. So, yeah, man. I mean, it's scary. And also the fact that, you know, Mexico has a lot of problems, but also has a lot of resources. Right. Yeah. Including one of the largest mineable lithium deposits on the planet. Really?
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah. Are they mining it? They should just splash water on it. Well, there was a Canadian company owned by china that wanted to buy some of those mining rights and that ended pretty quickly and then right around the area where that some of this stuff is is where the mormon massacre happened down there which is an interesting coincidence when was that ah that was about two years ago yeah recent um so which is crazy because isn't that a Star Trek episode? What? That Mormons from Earth go find another planet, and then an alien race kills them, and there's an incident where they go and investigate this Mormon massacre.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Are we talking about Next Generation? Next Generation, yeah. I've been thinking about that show today. I was into that when I was a kid. I'm sorry. Who would you be if you were on that? Maybe I'm misremembering. What?
Starting point is 00:34:41 Riker. Riker. You look like him, too. Riker. All the way number one reicher and i would get some of the uh data arms you know just crush people okay i'm confirming what you're talking about the lithium mine in sonora largest deposit with uh proven improbable reserves reserves of 243.8 million tons of probable reserves about four and
Starting point is 00:35:01 a half million tons of lithium as of 2019 if the the U.S. actually goes in there, into Mexico, I think it's not going to be about regime change or cartels or terrorism. It's going to be about... Making batteries. Yeah. Do you guys ever put water on lithium? No, I think I've seen it happen. It explodes, right? Yeah, it rips the hydrogen out of the water, I guess, or the
Starting point is 00:35:19 oxygen out. I can't remember. And then it heats up really, really quickly and starts on fire. That's the craziest thing. Splashing water starts on fire. But this is like high school science class stuff. Every now and then you'll see somebody with a smartphone with an old battery. Boom. Boom.
Starting point is 00:35:36 So when you were doing security, you're out on the border. Are you spending a lot of time out in the middle of nowhere in the desert and stuff? Yeah, sometimes, yeah. Have you ever seen any aliens? I saw a few U.S. drones flying places where they shouldn't be flying i was only i was only half king what i want to say is like have you experienced like weird things yeah i assume the answer is yes right but i don't i don't i don't want to make this like obviously like bigfoot or chupacabra no i mean like literally like have there been like weird
Starting point is 00:36:01 people have you like seen operations happening? And weird stuff like aliens. Weird calls from high up people. Telling us to deliver certain people that shouldn't be arrested. Corruption. Corruption of some sort, but on both sides. Or undercover operations. Could be. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:36:28 Seeing armed Americans in Mexico working. Whoa. Americans working in Mexico armed. That's a thing. I've heard stories that... There was one story I was reading about... I don't know if you read this one. Like a journalist went to El Chapo's house
Starting point is 00:36:44 or whatever. Do you ever hear this one? i think this may have been vice it's been a long time but apparently like uh maybe maybe maybe this is top maybe this is confidential information i can't remember anyway but he was working with americans his security were all north american accent guys like top level former military stuff like that the new generation cartel has a training camp somewhere in in Jalisco and American SF something or other has trained them so I don't know if it's an official it can't be an official capacity but some sort of former military specialized training that's what you see out there um has there ever been a moment where you were like crap your pants scared seeing something uh geiger counter being put into a drug tunnel
Starting point is 00:37:31 yeah what was up with that and it went off like crazy or what no but just the fact that they were testing the geiger counter on on drug tunnels was weird you know i was like uh like i knew what a Geiger counter was, and I was like, wait, is this some Jack Bauer shit going on? Smuggling in nukes. Who was putting the Geiger counter in there? We just heard it. So usually when you would find something like that, you would get somebody on the U.S. side coming down into it to verify the exit point. Or sometimes on the Mexican side, we'd go down into it and we're like, hey, we found something, we're going to walk,
Starting point is 00:38:08 and then we're going to ping you to see where it leads, you know. The military would usually do that. But experiencing some of that and actually seeing somebody, we heard the guy at your counter, I was like, should we not be here? That was like a weird, unknown thing. I mean, I guess the worry by the U.S. government, somebody might kind of put a nuke into the mean i guess the worry by the u.s government somebody might kind of put a nuke into the country like that i don't know i experienced that once and that was
Starting point is 00:38:30 kind of like like creepy how is it that there are all these tunnels that they know about and they're still there that they haven't like buried them uh like who knows about them well you just said there were like 80 or some that we know about people talk about somewhere along the lines of 50 to 60 active tunnels on the border and if they know i mean they know they're somewhere they just don't know how to find them or they know how to find them but they won't do anything to find them maybe what what if we did a moat and filled it with alligators okay i read once in the news that donald trump suggested that alligator moat yeah i think uh it's gonna be expensive feeding all those alligators no
Starting point is 00:39:05 also mexicans have a tendency to make stuff out of alligators hunting grounds can't do that there was there was a story where they claimed that trump suggested building an alligator moat yeah it's that's insane was that no is that the babylon b or is that real no yeah but they just make. But they just make stuff up. They just make stuff up. Yeah, I mean, Trump could nudge nudge as a joke and be like, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:28 we needed some alligators in a moat, right? I'm just kidding. And they'd be like, he said it. He said it was a moat. It's, I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:37 it's a complicated issue. There's no way you can make from sea to shining sea a border wall. Yeah. I mean, some of the to shining sea a border wall. Yeah. I mean, some of the new parts of the border wall have already fallen over. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:39:50 This is the funny thing about when Trump was like, when he wanted concrete, the border patrol agents were like, we need to see on the other side. Yeah, we need to be able to see what's coming. Yeah, and he was like, oh, okay. And so then they experimented with like half bollard fencing, half concrete, and they were like, you still can't see a lot of it, and then it doesn't make sense. And so they were like, just do a big multi-layered fence with patrols, and that seems to work. And target key areas, and that seems to work.
Starting point is 00:40:14 There's a lot of areas that's really hard to pass anyway, right? Like mountains and rocks and water. And also, I mean, what you want if you're a smuggler is to jump over a fence and have a population where you can blend into immediately. That's what you want. Another reason a smuggler is to jump over a fence and have a population where you can blend into immediately. That's what you want. Another reason why you wouldn't have a concrete border wall or just a flat steel fence like that is because wind knocks it over.
Starting point is 00:40:34 That's the simple reason why that's just not feasible. But even with these new iron slats that they made, I mean, there's a bunch of cartel videos and just smuggling videos of them actually making their own fake fence and putting it over the real one and putting a hinge to open it up or small concealed doors where they just pierce through. So they'll cut it and then replace it with a door.
Starting point is 00:40:58 The door? The door, yeah. Wow, man. Jump over it, rope ladders, you name it, they do it. It's interesting to see that. And again, they say it's to slow people down. We were talking before about you were doing trainings on occult stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:15 So there's actually a position in which they're like, you need to explain to these agents occult ideology or symbolism. There's law enforcement every now and then reaches out i mean agencies local state and federal sometimes reach out with questions and and i do a lot of consultation um related to them finding a safe house somewhere and i don't know like the i can talk about some of these but you know somewhere on the east coast they found this house with a bunch of cartel stuff in it um guns plate armor uh with a certain type of setup and a giant santa muerte statue uh santa muerte is uh basically uh it's a in mexico they they venerate death as a as a deity so a giant reaper statue in a place and it had certain colors. The candles were a certain way. There was a plate with certain offerings and,
Starting point is 00:42:13 uh, you know, five federal agents that are Caucasian from, you know, that have no idea what they're looking at are now asking me like what does this mean um and i was exposed to a lot of this stuff growing up in mexico and also you know being part of some of that growing and going through my training and then arresting people that are part of the cult and also just going doing my research out there um so they ask questions like what do these candles mean or what does it mean if it's this color? Or the statue was a black statue. Sometimes you find them in rainbow colors or red or yellow. Rainbow death.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Rainbow death. Basically, if you want to cover all your bases. Is that an LGBT death? Festive. I mean, that's for real. If you have money problems, love problems, if you want to kill somebody and you don't want to get killed back, and you want to have luck in a future endeavor, you go for a rainbow statue because it covers all your bases.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah. Really? Yeah. But if you want to, you know, if you're in the profession of death dealing, in which some of these people are basically consider themselves agents of death, you have a black statue because she gives you the authority to kill other people and she you're under her protection so small insights like that is what it provides to some law enforcement professionals out there that are finding some of these things i don't know what they mean yeah do you think that they're using them just to scare other people or that they really believe i mean i know it's speculation it's a belief it's a belief and it's not just the cartels i mean it's in the i mean i was exposed to some of the police forces as a hazing hazing rituals and it's like some of the people that i used to work with were part of the cult as well um it's
Starting point is 00:43:49 like it's like spread out uh it's it's a desperate place it's one of the most catholic countries in the world and some of these things just thrive in places like that uh they have santa muerte which is a death deity they have uh malverde, which is like a Mexican Robin Hood, the dude that used to rob the rich and would give the money to the poor. He was hanged, and they didn't allow him to bury his body. But where his body eventually rotted away and landed, they put a bunch of rocks there, and they started venerating him as a saint. And, you know, there's a shrine to him in Sinaloa.
Starting point is 00:44:24 You go there, and you see pictures of people with their, you know, new raptors and the states, you know, there's a shrine to him in Sinaloa. You go there and you see pictures of people with their, you know, new raptors in the States, you know. Like, thank you for letting me cross. And I just came back to repay you what you did for me. Or somebody with a gold AK somewhere, you know, like this. Oh, my gosh. Wow. So people, it's a belief system. So a lot of this is actually being brought with people stateside.
Starting point is 00:44:44 So there's like a Santa Marta church in L.A. There's a belief system. So a lot of this is actually being brought with people stateside. So there's like a Santa Muerte church in L.A. There's a roadside. Every now and then you find like I find like roadside graffiti and or shrines of Tumalverde or like some of these things are like it's here now. Does that just mean Saint Death? Santa Muerte? Yeah. The Holy Death. Holy Death.
Starting point is 00:45:03 The Santissima Muerte is Santa death holy death the saint of death basically have you ever encountered some of these people like in your yeah security yeah do they come off as like weird when you're encountering them i mean they they are realistically they're as weird as a catholic because it's it's it's basically uh it's a concealed it's a it's concealed within catholicism but it's basically a it's concealed within Catholicism, but it's basically a cult or a veneration of an Aztec death deity. That's what it is. Oh, it's a fusion. It is the last surviving lineage of any sort of Mexica or Aztec death worship in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:45:41 So you're bringing in the sainthood of Catholicism and you're combining it with... So Catholicism is basically the cloak that it has concealed itself into all day. Back in the day, it wasn't a public thing. So you would see a Virgin Mary statue and behind her there was a skeleton painted.
Starting point is 00:46:00 So that's how they would hide their veneration. And even to this day, La Virgen de Guadalupe, the brown version that they venerate in Mexico, there's an eagle feathered cherub underneath her pushing her up. And a cherub doesn't have eagle wings, specifically black tip eagle wings. That is the Aztec war god. And the Aztec war god was given birth to by Cuatlicue, which later on turned into the Holy Death. So in a lot of ways, it's always been kind of concealed
Starting point is 00:46:39 in plain view for people. But now it's adopted itself into being venerated by marginalized communities criminal groups police officers the military you know that is who venerates it and its elements have crossed the border and every now and then the law enforcement finds them up here and they're like what the hell are we looking at you know and um you know some of the ritualized killings they do they do it for for video purposes that they spread on social media and stuff like that see that that's a bit different from like christians you know i don't i don't think we Ritualized killings they do for video purposes that they spread on social media and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:47:06 See, that's a bit different from like Christians. I don't think we get a lot of that. You get some weird stuff for sure. Alex Jones was on before and talking about like these kind of blood rituals that they would do, the Aztecs and stuff. And I looked into it and it's called bloodletting. It's an ancient, very well-known practice. Bloodletting is just like you have a headache so you drain blood or something. Similar, yeah. And it's like he was like, you put glass through your genital.
Starting point is 00:47:26 And it's like, yeah, that's all bloodletting. That's ancient. So I went through a bunch of weird hazing rituals coming up through training. And a lot of them were done by people. So a lot of the training that I went through first was done by GAFA members. GAFA members are the people that later on turn into the Zetas, which is basically a Mexican army SF group that said,
Starting point is 00:47:47 these guys pay more. So they just left the barracks and became bodyguards to one of the biggest cartel heads back then. A lot of these guys were the ones that were in charge of our training coming up. So they were pretty brutal in some of the training. And they also introduced a few
Starting point is 00:48:04 weird occult elements into some of the training we got. Interesting. So they would cut you to see if you would flinch. So they cut me with a knife right there. And there was always some sort of pain or suffering or some sort to see if you were strong enough. And there was all this bleeding happening. It was a weird thing. So were you undercover?
Starting point is 00:48:29 No, this is government training that gets you in to go to work on some of these things. And again, the occultist elements in that are everywhere. They're infused into the culture. You see them within the military, you see them within the criminal groups. I remember the first time we went to a house and we found this giant actual human skull statue um in the bottom of it they had a bowl and it had the picture of the guy that ran us or the guy one of our bosses was in the bowl and looked at it
Starting point is 00:49:02 it's like took a picture of it and sent it back and he's like burn the house you know um you ever you ever experienced anything in like pursuit of or investigation of you know some occult stuff that gave you pause or made you question i mean stuff real i think uh things have a power that we give them right things have a power the power that we give them to uh so specifically i think uh there was there was this lady who was uh she was pretty famous i can't i can't say her name but she was pretty famous for being like the head witch of of cartel people oh wow and everybody feared her everybody feared her she was she She had the mal de ojo power. She could curse you by your sight and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:49:49 When I wanted to learn more about this type of stuff for my own research and just to know about it, to kind of gather some of this information to then kind of transfer it to people that might need it later on in life, I helped out two of her sons that were in a stolen vehicle thing. So I helped them out. And I told them, I just need an intro to your mom so I can talk about some of these things. Sure.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I went to her place where she would do her work. She arrived in a Mercedes in the back, changed out of her good clothes and put on a weird witch costume, I guess. Lady comes in. My husband is cursed and he works for the cartels and he's cursed and i need i worked on him okay um i don't know the
Starting point is 00:50:33 name of the demon that is placed on your husband so i can't take this job slides over the 500 dollars she just put on the table it's like wow this is an honest witch. Yeah, wow. But if things start happening at your husband's house at 3 in the morning, I think I might know the name, so come back. As soon as she leaves, two kids walk in with a bag full of cats. And they get tasked with going and following this lady and going to her house and dumping these cats in her backyard. I see. Okay. She comes back with $5,000
Starting point is 00:51:05 to get rid of this curse, whatever this is. I mean, black magic at its core is just a form of weaponized psychology, I think. So this is not something that made you believe. This is something that made me respect the
Starting point is 00:51:21 ability of manipulation that some human beings have and reanalyze everything I thought was real. That's classic con game material. I knew a guy once and he worked with a guy and when I started talking to him he told me the story about how he lent his friend five grand
Starting point is 00:51:38 and I was like what? Why? And he goes no it's fine he's good for it he's paid me back before. And I'm like dude what happened? And he's like yeah he asked to borrow 500 bucks a couple weeks ago and said, I'll pay you back on payday. And I lent him the money and then sure enough, payday comes around, he paid me back no problem. And then he needed
Starting point is 00:51:53 to help out. He was trying to get married, but his family didn't approve of his wife so he needed to go fly back home to China where he could then sort things out with his family. He's got a job here. I was like, bro, you just got conned. He stole all your money. He's never coming back. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:52:10 You give me 500 bucks. I wait a week, hand it right back to you. I never spent it. That way in a week I can be like, hey, can you lend me five grand? You know I'll pay you back. I paid you back last time. That's the trick. So when she's like, no, no, I can't take your money because I have to know if the demon is real. And then they go nuts on you. So when she's like, no, no, I can't take your money because I have to know if the demon is real. And then
Starting point is 00:52:26 they go nuts on you. And then you're like, she was right. Something happened. It's a... I call it... I nickname Mexico the upside down. It's a different place. People don't realize how different it is.
Starting point is 00:52:42 We would get numbers attached to us as like a call sign, right, or a nickname. My nickname was Esqueletor. They called me Esqueletor. I was pretty skinny when I first got out. You got a little shirt. You got like a little skeleton. There you go.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Jolena. And I had a number given to me, a 2-4, and I had an upside-down 4 on my number, and I didn't realize it was a joke. The joke was that my first job working was to cut people down from a bridge that were hung by cartels. That was one of my first jobs. And talking about some hair-raising experiences, this was pretty subtle, but it made me realize a few things about Mexico.
Starting point is 00:53:22 We got to this place and they had two or three, well, two and what was remaining of another one hanging from a bridge. We got there and I got, I remember going there and I got like, hey, bring the breaching kit, which is a pair of bolt cutters and a thing to knock down the doors. And I was like, yeah, we're going to hit a house. And then all of a sudden we're going to go somewhere else. And I got handed the bolt cutters and I didn't know what I was going to do. And I got there and I was like, yeah, we're going to hit a house. And then all of a sudden, we're going to go somewhere else. And I got handed the bolt cutters, and I didn't know what I was going to do. And I got there, and I was like, oh, we're going to, you're the one in charge of cutting them down. I go over, they put a flatbed thing on the bottom, and we just cut somebody down. And I was like, oh, fuck, this is horrible.
Starting point is 00:54:01 This is horrible. Older guy there smoking. A guy, Haramiya was his name. Older guy smoking says, that's kind. They're being kind. I was like, how is this kind? I mean, at least his family is going to have a body to cry over and bury. The body is a gift.
Starting point is 00:54:25 And I was like, this is kindness here. I've heard crazy stories about what they do to people, like flaying them alive. Flaying them alive, explosives put on people, dragging them through a city. I mean, the videos are out there. I mean, some of the afters of these things. There was a guy, Pozo Lera, who was a stew maker in Tijuana. He never killed anybody, but he said that he learned from an Israeli specialist how to get rid of bodies. And he got rid of bodies at an industrial level with caustic soda. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:54:57 And one of my guys ran through a field once and got his foot inside of one of the pits where he would dump things. And he had to go to the hospital for chemical stuff. And also the hole exposed the smell, which is to this day I can't go to Korean barbecue places because it freaks me out. People in the United States do not realize how good they have it. They don't not only realize how good they have it up here, they don't realize how some of this is also starting to pop up up here. And also how some of the stuff that happens down there affects up here directly. You were saying before the show when we were talking
Starting point is 00:55:40 that like 90% of murders are unsolved in Mexico. Over 90%, yeah. So, I mean, imagine that. I read this crazy story for our more attentive listeners. You may have heard me say it. I think I was reading it on like Reddit. This young woman was at a bar. I think it was in Austin or whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:58 And she was with her boyfriend and like two of his friends. So it's like three guys and a chick. They walk out of the bar and she's like 10 or 15 feet behind them, just like whatever. And then as they're goofing off and walking, her being that far apart was enough. Car pulls up, they jump out and grab her, and try pulling her into the car. She screams.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Her boyfriend and the friend's here, and they run over, and they grab her, and they're trying to keep her out of the car, and the car starts driving, and they pull her out, and the car speeds off. And apparently, that's like these kidnappings in Texas and places like that on the border. You think you're in this American city, everything's going to be great, and then a car just pulls up and the next thing you know you're a slave.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I'll give you this story and you tell me where it happened. A bunch of armed cartel members dressed like federal agents go to a house, do a mock raid on the house, abduct somebody, and then they found him later on dead. Where did this happen? Kansas City. It was California. Oh, I was going to say California for sure. It was California. Where in California? Right across the border
Starting point is 00:56:53 to San Diego County. Which one's on the U.S. side? Mexicali or Calexico? Calexico. And then Mexicali's just on the other side. El Centro, Calexico, yeah. Arizona is the abduction capital of the U.S. Wow. Arizona.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Arizona. A lot of abductions happen in migrant communities that never get reported. A lot of executions and murders happen in migrant communities that never get reported. That makes me wonder, when you said 90 or more percent of murders are unsolved, is that accounting for people that just disappear? No, that's not accounting for people that just disappear, which I don't have the numbers in my head right now, but they're pretty astronomical as far as how many people are just missing in Mexico.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Which basically means dead. Which basically means dead. Or they could be sold into slavery. Well, that's an interesting other aspect of it. During the COVID epidemic, you know, protozoals were stocked, which means in certain parts of the country,
Starting point is 00:57:46 uh, child labor is allowed in the States only in the, you know, when it comes to agriculture, there's kids working in some of these fields, governor, governor Newsom in California, California has a winery that didn't close during COVID.
Starting point is 00:58:01 And there was a bunch of kids working on those fields that are, you know, Mexican immigrants. They are working to pay off their crossing, a lot of these people. So in a lot of ways, there's modern-day slavery going on right now. Getting across through the border,
Starting point is 00:58:20 not like the Haitian push that came in, but if you're a Mexican and you cross the border illegally, they have to pay. And if you can't pay, you get a little tab on your wrist, so when you get picked up on the U.S. side, they know you're still low, so you get processed in a bit different way. Some of these people end up in fields
Starting point is 00:58:39 and in manufacturing places across the country, and some of them go into, if they're female, some of them go into the trade as well. And they're basically working off their debt. And if they can't pay it, their families that are already set up stateside are paying it. Wow. What's like the average that someone would have to pay for something like that?
Starting point is 00:59:00 It depends on who you are and where you're crossing. $5,000 is a number that I've heard. Where do people get this money? They don't get it, so they cross and they pay it off over years sometimes. And some people might owe $5,000, but you think they're going to say, oh, with interest now. Of course. And these people get stuck into this circle. And also, if they don't pay and they get, you know, they get something bad
Starting point is 00:59:25 happen to them, do you think they're going to report that to the police here in the United States? It's a whole silent community that just doesn't say anything. It's upside down, man.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yeah, I was just thinking like, geez, start a GoFundMe to help pay these people off. But I'm like, can you even get involved in that? Because it's already this illegal trade.
Starting point is 00:59:40 You can't pay them. It just would make the system worse. It would incentivize more of the same. How do we fix this? I mean, first recognition of a narco insurgency with multiple fronts right next door to your country, and it is a narco insurgency. Recognize that the fact that the Mexican government is not going to help you fix the problem, you know, because it's part of the problem. Realize that they are terrorist organizations.
Starting point is 01:00:09 They are their own definition of a terrorist organization. The U.S. should come up with a new definition for them because they are a new definition. They're utilizing pipe bombs, mortar bombs. They're utilizing IRA-style tactics to develop explosives now on drones that they land on police vehicles. Like in that game Watch Dogs. You ever play that? Yeah, the drones with bombs on them and then you can... Or you can go to Michoacan
Starting point is 01:00:34 and you see it for real. Man, I remember warning some government officials when I was doing consulting on drone stuff. When drones started first, like consumer level drones were first becoming prominent prominent i actually uh there was this organization that sent a person to like these news organizations and they asked me because i had a bunch of expertise in doing work with drones and then i was talking to them and they were like what are the concerns about safety and
Starting point is 01:00:59 i was like oh the most obvious one is someone straps a bomb to a consumer grade drone for a couple hundred bucks and there's nothing you can do about it and they were like yeah like what do you do we can even if you get the drone down it's a flying bomb it's a flying bomb so the cartels are basically making homemade claymore mines that are putting and they're putting them on the bottom of a drone and these drones are dirt cheap yeah they're they're and all these chinese alibaba level drones you know but they're they work they're workable and you have one of those go off high enough the radius is pretty good to get a lot of people or they land on top of a car and explode them especially put like nails and stuff yeah uh how much weight they can carry on them if they do a you know moderate sized drone they can there's this stuff. I posted a video up recently
Starting point is 01:01:45 of a quad drone with a guy holding onto it. Whoa. And they were being lifted up and it was like somewhere in the hills in Mexico. They're kind of testing that out for something,
Starting point is 01:01:53 maybe breaking somebody out of prison or something. Casey Neistat did that big drone where it pulled him on a snowboard and then like lifting him up and everything too. Yeah. That's exciting.
Starting point is 01:02:01 I mean, I know it's a different context, but that's super cool. I mean, if El Chapo was in prison long enough, I mean, he probably could have gone out with a drone. That would be some Batman-level villainy going on, right? I mean, it's the craziest thing right now. A drone big enough can just automatically fly by tracking GPS and then stop over you and then drop a rope,
Starting point is 01:02:20 and it can pull you out. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. I remember finding one of the first drones like like a first drug load drones in tijuana and i'd never seen one outside like in reality i've thought of them on on the internet and stuff like that and all of a sudden i find this quad drone on the ground with a giant brick of meth you know wow and we saw how big was the drone uh it's about i I mean, it was probably about that big.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Those guys, when they fly, their blades are strong and so fast, they'd slice your fingers. Oh, wow. Yeah, no joke. When we found it, we still had, one of the guys still had his sirens on, the police car he was driving. He said, shut him off. And we can, that was one of several. Like, you could hear the...
Starting point is 01:03:03 So that one had gone down, but there were others still up there? Yeah. Oh, boy. And this is a while ago. This was about 2008 or something like that. 2008? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:03:12 And this is... They're better now at it. Yeah. According to most of those guys, they say Magic Hour is moonless night with fog. That defeats every single security feature of the border right now. A Moonless Night with Fog, that'll get its magic hour for them. Zero visibility. And you can't fly.
Starting point is 01:03:34 You can't send a helicopter out there. Yeah, I think of infrared IR detection, but I would imagine they don't have all the advanced technology all over. I mean, right now they don't have enough people to, I mean, again, it's magic hour for them. Like everybody is, you know, on the border. Well, they were on the border trying to quell this massive migration push into the United States. I mean, other parts of the border were probably ignored and were left alone. And just, I mean, again, it was magic hour for them.
Starting point is 01:04:04 You know, what got through a lot, probably, you know. There's no end to this. I mean, I wonder if the stuff we see in the news. Actually, let me ask this. Does it feel like it's worse now than it's been in the past? Yes. I think it's just numbers-wise, it's worse. Having experience, I went through the group that I was a part of
Starting point is 01:04:26 pacified the most dangerous city on the planet at that point, which was Tijuana. And it got off the most dangerous list. Things went back to normal. Economic boom, a bunch of sky high
Starting point is 01:04:41 rises came up in Tijuana. And it's currently going through that. And now it's back at almost number one again, right? And you're like, scratch your head, like, we did all this work. Like, what happened to all this work? And then you start realizing that, you know, well, the politics went to the left on this side. We were put through a process of selection and also
Starting point is 01:05:05 review. So I had to do a polygraph exam every year. And my financials were looked through with a fine-tooth comb. I went through an FBI background check. I had random drug testing, psychological evaluations, and this was tedious.
Starting point is 01:05:20 They would go to our houses and take pictures of how many TV screens we had there. And if we had a new one, you'd have to ask. That ended because people started saying it was inhumane and it was against their human rights.
Starting point is 01:05:35 So the last day I was on the job, there was a guy, the new guy that was in charge, which we investigated for cartel ties, was there at the office. And I was like, weren't you not here? Oh, I'm back.
Starting point is 01:05:54 And my back paid everything. He's back. And now he's in charge. Yeah, it sounds like they sold you out. I mean, they sold everybody out. And another thing about it is, i'm not a i'm not specialty guy i know a lot of things i train a lot of people and i had a lot of weird training from the u.s side and the mexican side all the people that i used to work with which were also trained like me that speak the same level of english that i have that have
Starting point is 01:06:20 the same training same education same experience those. Those people didn't have the opportunities that I had. What do you think they're working now? Why are they working? $12,000 every two weeks. And they're working for one of the largest cartel groups on the planet right now. So they were like basically every year they were testing and checking and checking to see if you'd been co-opted. And then who decided, like what president or what organization decided to stop? The last president went through a process of kind of changing some of those things. Again, Mexico has six years of a presidency, and then it just goes into a process of amnesia.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Or everything that the last president did, even if it was good, it's bad. And we went from the far right down there, which was Felipe Calderon, which started the drug war, to a president now that invited the Venezuelan military to march on Mexican Independence Day and shout, viva Maduro, viva la revolución. So that's what we're going through right now. And most of the people that I used to work with, I mean, they clearly were like, this is BS. Let's just go to work for the bad guys or the good guys, depending on where you're down, where you are down there. You can see what this leftist Maduro stuff manifests into. I mean, this guy went to the poppy fields
Starting point is 01:07:33 and said, what about our drugs? Yeah. They're normalizing a bunch of stuff that is not normal, you know? Well, it's a fire. It's a fire that's spreading. What's left over after the fire burns down the forest burnt husks and also that i mean that when i say normalizing things i mean when he leaves office things are normal the president going to sinaloa and talking about supporting poppy field uh plantations and shaking hands with El Chapo Guzman's mom
Starting point is 01:08:07 and the lawyer and naming the former governor of Sinaloa the ambassador to Spain, which is the door of drugs into Europe. Wow. But he just does it because it's fine. Because he's the
Starting point is 01:08:23 president and it's okay. And it's fine, because he's the president and it's okay and it's fine. And just the behavior and the people that are being invited in and the open relationship to Cuba now and Cuban intelligence being all over the country now, it's kind of weird. I want to pull up this story real quick. This is from the BBC. Biden said, quote, people will pay for horseback charge on migrants at border so i'm sure you heard the fake news that the guy the border patrol guys were riding the horses and the photos came out and the left democrats were like they're whips so then what happened is the biden administration's like okay you can't use horses anymore
Starting point is 01:09:00 and now biden's saying they're going to pay the reason i bring this up is you're just talking about how you know once once the left came in all of a sudden they were much more in favor or at least yeah you know it's like uh let's sit so the the current president down there said hugs not bullets that was his whole counter that's that was his whole security policy for the cartels so whether what you know for for the uS., whether it's intentional or not, you have Joe Biden now, based on fake news, condemning the Border Patrol guys. It's just continually weakening our security. It's erasing it. Just knowing some of the people that were there, because I know some of those people that were there. A lot of them were Latinos.
Starting point is 01:09:39 A lot of them were actually Mexican, second-generation, third-generation Mexican people. They're riding around in horses, and they're utilizing the strap. Have you ever ridden a horse? They don't have crops that have a whip. The reins, that's what you see. They are completely undermanned and they're supported and they're trying to do a job which is stopping people from crossing the border legally. And also, I mean there i saw
Starting point is 01:10:06 somebody go out down there trying to make it about race um of course and um just seeing so the u.s and again this this from my experience training law enforcement here stateside just went through the whole black lives matter, which is a corrosion. Speaking of somebody that comes from a country where police are not viewed well, this leads down a very dark path. People don't want to be police officers in the United States anymore.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Police academies have whole generations that are just empty. There's places where they don't have police. They can't pay them enough or you can't get paid enough to work in some of these places that leads to a void an authority and policing void in some places what comes next?
Starting point is 01:10:56 Mexico comes next the corrosion of the small rules getting set to the side small rules get set to the side. Small rules get set to the side. You can walk into a Target in California and just fill a bag full of stuff
Starting point is 01:11:11 and just walk out, no problem. It doesn't pass. Small rules. I'm from Tijuana. It's not a first world place. But I go to LA and I want to wash my hands afterwards. It's amazing to first world place, but I go to L.A. and I want to wash my hands afterwards, right?
Starting point is 01:11:28 It's amazing to see how it's slowly shifting. The corrosion that's come in this country as far as being against law enforcement, again, not all law enforcement is okay. There's bad people in law enforcement. There's bad, horrible people in law enforcement in Mexico. There's people that did horrible things here in the States. There's people that are corrupt that are working for law enforcement. There are people that shouldn't be working for law enforcement here stateside that have a completely bad mindset as far as what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:11:55 But what comes if you don't have a police force? You know? Like, I was in the Portland riots, day 101 of the Portland riots. I went out there. Oh, wow. People would be like, Ed, you're going to be out there? Yeah. What do you want to do?
Starting point is 01:12:08 What do you want to see? I always want to go to the weird places. So I went to the riots. 2% CS gas was being utilized against the protesters, which is basically pepper. Yeah. And something you put on your steak. There was a snack cart going through the protest line which is pretty amazing there was a little asian uh uh girl with a bicycle helmet shouting you know kill the police or something like that and then somebody threw a molotov uh at the police and it landed on the feet of a
Starting point is 01:12:35 protester there who do you think all of them screamed for when that happened yeah and the you know state police walked over put him out and then went back through the line. You want to know what would happen if there were no police? I'll tell you. If something like Portland happened in a place where there were no police, the locals would walk out with their guns, and it would not be pretty. See, the issue is in places like Portland, where you do have the right to keep in bare arms, more so than many other states, regular people know if Antifa shows up with Molotov cocktails and I defend myself, I go to prison.
Starting point is 01:13:10 So they don't do it. It's because they're scared of the police and the police allow Antifa free reign. So I've not been a big fan of the police over that specifically and over the lockdown stuff. And a lot of people have said, oh, you can't blame the cops. You've got to blame the leadership. And I'm like, no, I think if the cop walked up to the guy and arrested him and said, you deal with it later, at the very least, that would slowly start putting a stop to these things.
Starting point is 01:13:34 If they started actively going where these rioters were going when they go into residential neighborhoods and stopping them from going to people's homes and threatening the residents, they're not doing it, though. I was there for a night, and I'm not the smartest man alive or anything like that, but I was there for a night, and I could figure out that all these people there were not from Portland, that they were all bussed in or drove in and carpooled in. I could tell you exactly where they parked.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I could tell you where their plates were from. I could tell you where they were car surfing. I could tell you just by walking around there and hearing their conversations, I could tell you what social media they were utilizing to organize their endeavors. And it was all a show. It was all a played out show. Look at the McCloskeys.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Right? You can criticize them for waving the guns around or whatever, but the point is a group of Black Lives Matter people broke into private property, and when they simply brandished their weapons on their own property, as people were on their property and said, get out, they got arrested and charged for it. So regular people know this. Antifa gets free reign. Black Lives Matter gets free reign.
Starting point is 01:14:37 You can't defend yourself. Remove the police, people start defending themselves. The riots are over instantly. It would not look good, and I would not want to see what happens. But I tell you, if the cops won't actually enforce this, if the justice system will not hold these people to account, eventually the police start losing support. We start seeing things like we did, where Trump supporters and conservatives were throwing the Blue Lives Matter flag on the ground and stomping on it.
Starting point is 01:15:03 And then eventually they're like, I don't care care get rid of the cops whatever so be it if you're not going to protect me you're going to ignore what they do and then come at me when i try to protect myself like we've seen in the press numerous times people are going to say no to it it's a small as long as they're paying attention it's a small rules that go first and then the big ones start getting corroded and i think we're past the small rules part and oh yeah it's it's insane and and again i come from a country where that happened probably in the 80s and the 90s and this is the this is what comes after you know mad max level the fact and you see the haitian
Starting point is 01:15:34 migrants walking back and forth yeah there's no border i'm sorry there's no border you can't call it a border it's not that's not correct it's it's not there there's no border and also the people that are enforcing the border on this side are now even more neutered than they were. So you go into, you know, hypotheticals. And, you know, again, if somebody like some evil entity out there wanted to do something on the border, Christmas right now, Christmas. Yeah. This is Christmas right now. You know, and also who wants to go into border protection? You know, that, you know right now. And also, who wants to go into border protection that you know now?
Starting point is 01:16:09 Who wants to go into any of these jobs? That guy with the reins, he's being demonized by the president. They took their horses away over fake news. Biden is attacking them, saying they'll pay because people on the Democratic... This is what happens every single time. Look, the Democrats come out and say Hunter Biden's laptop story is fake news when it was real. They come out and say Russia gate is real news when it's fake. Ukraine gate is real news when it's fake. They say they're whipping people.
Starting point is 01:16:36 It's fake news. How often are we going to see our culture, our country capitulate to the lies from these psychopaths who just scream random garbage when they panic yeah i mean the racism thing with a with one of the most latin groups of federal police out there is pretty insane uh i don't get me wrong i i'm a migrant like i'm a legal resident to this country i went through my my my process during trump's election, which made my process that usually takes six months into one that took two years. And I'm not a fan. And I was pretty disappointed.
Starting point is 01:17:12 But I went through it legally. I went through it legally. And I'm an idiot. You're just weird. And I'll say it in Spanish. Que pendejo. I should have just sat on that board and just crossed and get shipped out to any whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:30 I got friends. I have a friend in Eastern Europe. And it's actually a brutal conversation to be like, I would like my friend to simply visit. Simply visit. Two weeks. Come see America for once. Damn near impossible and then she's like should i just go to mexico and i was like well i can't you know obviously you're joking
Starting point is 01:17:53 right but that's the reality of like even people in other countries are like that that's why you see people in africa fly to brazil and then come to mexico because they know the border doesn't exist. It's an open joke internationally that it's a hard thing to get a visa, but it's easy to just travel to Mexico. So you don't even need a visa to go to Mexico. You can just violently cross the southern border into Mexico, beat federal police in Mexico, beat them up, cross the border violently, just make it all the way through, go to the border and be welcomed on the other side.
Starting point is 01:18:27 They'll fight the police in the southern border? They'll fight the police in the southern border. They'll throw rocks at them. They'll be violent towards them. They will go through communities, and all the communities are just doing this to them. You know, just go past.
Starting point is 01:18:44 When the first migrant caravan came up into Tijuana, the locals protested. Yeah, I remember that. The Make Tijuana Great Again hats, which I may or may not have something to do with that. The locals were wearing, the mayor of Tijuana was wearing a Make Tijuana Great Again hat, right?
Starting point is 01:19:04 But they were called racist. Allijuana Great Again hat, right? But they were, like, called racist. Like, all these guys are brown, right? And also, we just absorbed a whole segment of the population of the Haitian migrants coming into Tijuana. I mean, as far as our experience with them, they were pretty good. They melded into the populace. They worked. They were fine. Now these Hondurans came in, and they were saying that they were going to turn Tijuana into Honduras.
Starting point is 01:19:29 They were saying that they were going to shoot people if they wanted to mess with them. Two of them got picked up by the cartels immediately. Whoa. Immediately. So they calmed down a bit. And then they were complaining about the food that they were being given because they didn't want beans. They thought that was pig food, which is if you tell that to a Mexican, it's like, hmm. But that's the experience that the locals have had with them, and it's not a good experience.
Starting point is 01:20:00 And it's amazing that the first camp they had was next to a school. They had to call the school down because they kept getting harassed by the people there. But the Americans would come in and hand out backpacks, tents, food, clothing. And these guys were like, thank you, muchas gracias, thank you, thank you. And then you would see that at the open-air market being sold and flipped. And it was like, is anybody seeing this? American media shows up, get the kids out. Put them around.
Starting point is 01:20:35 The females out. Put them here on the outskirts so they can get. That's what they need. That way AOC can show up and start crying at the fence, tricking a bunch of dumb people into voting away their rights and their sovereignty. The last caravan that showed up in tijuana set up right on the border and right in the middle of it and i'll post this picture up tonight i think i'll find it right in the middle of that camp biden flag yeah you know and yeah i went around and talked to a few of them they were pretty defensive but main thing is that doors open welcome in this is the time
Starting point is 01:21:06 the door's going to close again probably in a few years so we need to go now let us send joe biden you said that in the 80s um is when the little things started to become overlooked and then it led slowly led towards i mean mexico's have always been the corruption's always been systemic there but yeah i mean the true corrosion that criminal enterprises and feeding the massive drug market in the States and the corruption that kind of produced in Mexico kind of started growing and how the corruption seeped into uncorruptible organizations like the military. Mexico had like a – the military was like the uncorruptible.
Starting point is 01:21:42 These are the last offense. And then you had the Zetas, you know. And then you had a bunch of generals being arrested for cartel ties. And then that shifted now. That's why you see the Mexican Marines being utilized more now. The U.S. said, well, we don't use the Mexican military. We're going to use the Mexican Marines now. That's what we saw during the El Chapo raid.
Starting point is 01:22:01 But now some of those guys have been arrested guarding cartel guys, bodyguarding cartel guys, mysterious stuff happening in certain parts where they control the ports. I mean, if they are incorruptible and they are the leading defense in Mexico against the cartels, why are vice-vangels flooding the country? These guys are in control of the ports. So I think it's all for money.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I mean, for them, yeah. I think a big part of it is money. I think a big part of it is lack of opportunity. I mean, for somebody like me, growing up in Tijuana, either it was going in to work for a call center, going to work for a cartel, or going to work
Starting point is 01:22:41 for the government. And after coming out of working for the government, I can't tell you the difference between working for a cartel or going to work for the government. And after coming out of a working for the government, I can't tell you the difference between working for a cartel or a government down there as far as how it was at the end. The cost centers are rough. That's boring. I mean, that's the opportunity you have down there. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Right? I was studying medicine when 9-11 happened, and the economy just went in the toilet down there after that because nobody wanted to cross the border and have fun in tijuana anymore so the only opportunities were me and a few of my friends it's like when i grew up in tijuana i was a like a skater kid skated uh the first time i did any lock picking and stuff like that now i teach that and stuff like that the first time i didn't lock picking stuff like i have to break into some cartel house that had been abandoned and we wanted to skate the pool and stuff like that. The first time I did it in lockpicking and stuff like that, I had to break into some cartel house that had been abandoned and we wanted to skate the pool and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:23:28 So that was my childhood. And it was fun. It was interesting. Tijuana was a pretty interesting place. But it changed. A lot of my friends that I grew up with went to work for the cartels. There was a redhead kid that I used to know. I went in to work for the government
Starting point is 01:23:44 and we both used to know. You know, I went in to work for the government and he, we both used to skate, you know. He always, his shorties was his thing, you know. That was his brand. Yeah, he had jet muska. Yeah, he had the muska shoes with the zipper tongue thing that would hide his weed in there.
Starting point is 01:24:00 He was a great kid, you know, hung out with him and we just lost touch when I turned 20 and I went to work for government. He just, you know hung out with him and we just lost touch when I turned 20 and I went to work for government he just you know
Starting point is 01:24:08 disappeared I found him working later on I was walking across a gas station we were doing some surveillance stuff and he
Starting point is 01:24:18 called me over like God Ed oh shit like wearing a AK-47 magazine carrier
Starting point is 01:24:28 and an AK in his hand he's like hey what's up man he's like what's up come over he's like come over here so I wasn't in uniform I was carrying a gun I was working but I wasn't doing anything specific as far as being overtly what I was called me over gave me a hug like hey dude like what have you been doing i just been fucking
Starting point is 01:24:50 you know looking for work and stuff like that and he leaned over and said i know what you do for a living you probably better get out of here it's like yeah dude i'm sorry man yeah what's up with you i'm like i'm just working here you should come over like it's a good i mean it's well paying and shit like that i'm like wow uh i walk out of there like phones going crazy because they saw me you know and as soon as i got back to the group that i was with the military showed up and they shoot out for i don't know like a solid 30 minutes. Whoa. I went there afterwards, and it took me about 10 minutes to find him. He was shot dead underneath a car. He was the only one with red hair there.
Starting point is 01:25:36 He was a redhead. I stayed with his body all night and called his parents to release the body. The war down there is different. It's not going off to Afghanistan and doing things. It's not going off to the Middle East. It's within our homes with people that we speak the same language with. Sometimes we would kill one of them and they would kill one of us
Starting point is 01:26:02 and the funerary service would go to the same place. Jeez. It's a different war. And as far as what it produces as far as individuals and people and bad people and just the methodology that is being showcased as far as the first people that we've seen in the Western Hem hemisphere weaponized drones or cartels and that's a that's a light that is now like ideological and method methodological idea now that is out there um the first people that weaponized torture videos and stuff like that on social media were the cartels not isis isis got the idea from the cartels. It's turning into the school, you know. It's
Starting point is 01:26:49 turning into a school of thought, of method. It's turning into a producer of people, of bad people and good people, maybe. I don't know. But people that are capable, you know. What you saw in Afghanistan when the CIA went in there and trained some of the local populace to fight the Soviets and what that later turned into. The U.S. trained people in Mexico. I was one of them. And what is that going to turn into in a few decades? You know? Same thing it always does. It's a scary thing that, again, I don't see this covered on the U.S. side a lot,
Starting point is 01:27:28 and people don't talk about it that much. Or if they do, it's like something that's in the future for them. Like they're coming here, eventually they'll come here. It's here already. That's the scary part of it, just the ignorance around it. You think if people learn Spanish it will help? I think all of you are going to be speaking Espanol or mandarin in a few years so yeah probably we should be teaching kids like six or seven languages in school
Starting point is 01:27:52 well yeah uh you know we don't other other countries do we don't yeah yeah you can't get a uh you can't get into a career path in Mexico unless you know English. That's true for a lot of countries, though. Yeah. It's always been interesting for me to meet people in the States that don't speak another language. It's pretty weird, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:13 That's most, I'm pretty sure, right? Si. Nice try. Un poquito. Un poquito. I travel across the country every weekend. I do classes all over the country, so I get to see weird places
Starting point is 01:28:24 and experience this country. For three years, I've been traveling nonstop. So it's just interesting seeing going from L.A. to Alabama to going to living in Kentucky for a bit. And everybody was like, hey, Ed, why don't you worry about Kentucky? It's very racist. It's like Mexico is very racist. These people are amateurs yeah america's like one of the least racist places i've ever been to you know maybe maybe it's it's hard to quantify
Starting point is 01:28:52 exactly how racist the country might be especially like you go to some of the scandinavian countries and they're like arguably way more racist but some people might be like kind of not but i'll tell you this i think sweden is super super super racist okay yeah they're, kind of not. But I'll tell you this. I think Sweden is super, super, super racist. Okay. Yeah. They're the kind of racist where they really don't like non-Swedish people. Yeah. But they openly pretend like they're not racist.
Starting point is 01:29:13 So they do a bunch of things to make it... They want to make it seem like they're not racist and they're super welcoming. Yeah. But then behind closed doors, they're like... Others are not... Yeah, totally. No, legit. We have blackface comedy still on tv in mexico
Starting point is 01:29:26 oh wow wow uh there's a there's a comic called the mean penguin people can research this and you tell me that's on the newsstand still so it's uh there's there's uh all of the telenovelas and all the news and all a lot of the popular culture down there, everybody on TV is Caucasian, the Mexican Caucasian people, because that's our idealized version of beauty. Wow. You give a kid a brown Barbie and a white Barbie and ask the kid which one is the evil one. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:29:56 No way. That's an experiment they did down there. So what's the result? I mean, raise the brown one. And what do you think, if you did that in the United States today to a kid, which one do you think they would raise up? the white one, of course Diablo Blanco how about just like, I don't know, you can't tell if they're evil or not
Starting point is 01:30:15 well, I mean, that's too hard and it's as far as the racism thing, I get a kick out of seeing some of the commentary as far as racism here in the United States. When I, you know, like go to Asia,
Starting point is 01:30:28 you know, and just see how different Asian countries see each other. Go to Mexico. Uh, in my, like, I'll, I'll tell this story about my family.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Can I tell this? It's just a small, short story. My daughter is on the light side. You know, she's, she's a bit light skinned. Um,
Starting point is 01:30:41 my niece has a daughter and she's a little on the brown side. In Christmas, my dad put my niece's daughter, and she's the one on the brown side. On Christmas, my dad put my niece's daughter on his knee and my daughter on his other knee. He told my daughter, tu eres la princesa. You're the princess of the family. My niece's daughter says,
Starting point is 01:30:55 what about me? You can be the princess's maid. Wow. That's my dad. That's my dad. Yikes. That's my dad. Thanks, dad.
Starting point is 01:31:03 That's how the culture is down there. That's how it is in Brazil. So when I was down in Brazil, I've been down there several times. I actually have a visa. And what I was being told by our fixer, our local guy, our friend, he's like a pothead on the headshot. He was like, there are people who are both black. And he was like, and they'll argue with each other over who's blacker, because it's bad, and they're all extremely racist, even against themselves.
Starting point is 01:31:31 And he was like, it's crazy to see that people who are darker skinned, they'll be like a grandmother, and then there'll be a picture of her with her husband and their kids, and it's like having more and more white kids, and then their great-granddaughter is white, and she's like, how proud am I? That's really weird to me how racist these people are. Just to get it clear, my dad is brown. It's not like – that's just how things work outside of the United States. And people – these college kids, they don't get it.
Starting point is 01:31:59 They're like, America is racist. Come down. Dude. Come down. Not only that, but I'm like whenever I hear one of these people say that America's racist, I'm like, have you ever spent 10 minutes in a skate park in America? Look, you want to go somewhere to hear the N-word more than any – go to a skate park. I'm not even kidding.
Starting point is 01:32:17 It's like every other word. Yeah. Because it's like an urban culture thing now, I guess, for these kids. Yeah. My mind gets blown when I see second generation, third generation Mexican kids here, and they use the N-word more than anything.
Starting point is 01:32:31 Why are you using that word? Again, I'm new here, so I don't know. I'm just hearing it, and I'm like, wow. Let's go to Super Chats, everybody. If you haven't already, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel. We love hanging out on Friday nights. We always try to just kind of like chill, lay back, and make Friday nights a little different.
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Starting point is 01:33:01 Jackson Dowdle says, can you have a debate between an ANCAP and a populist like Brian Kaplan and Jack Murphy? Yes. Brian Kaplan. Not familiar with who Brian Kaplan is, but, you know, we can certainly organize something like that. That'd be fun. All right, this question I'm assuming is for Ian.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Ducktator says, so did any of the cults ever manage to summon Cthulhu? Is that what actually happened in 2020? defer to ed i mean i don't know i gave a death whistle to joe rogan that he blew and not everybody blames the covid on that so i don't know no for real yeah so i uh so in mexico they have these uh death whistles it's an aztec death whistle supposedly when the aztecs would attack a village they would blow those every night before they attacked to just keep people
Starting point is 01:33:46 up. And then he blew it. I said, that's pretty cool. You want this? He's like, oh, yeah. He blew it on the show. Wait, Joe Rogan blew the death whistle on his show? That proves it. There's a few of them, so maybe that... I don't know if it was Cthulhu.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Maybe somebody asked a version of Cthulhu. I guess the answer is no. Short answer. All right. Steven Valdez says, Ed is a legend. Ed, are you ever going to write a book? Yeah. It's not what people think.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Most of my writing is going to be related to post-traumatic stress processing. You were saying psychedelics have helped. Certain types of psychedelics have helped in the processing part of uh, processing. You were saying psychedelics have helped. Uh, some certain, certain, certain types of psychedelics have helped in the processing part of it. Yeah. Um, it's, it's, uh, every now and then I write these things called fever dreams and I post them up on my Instagram account and there they seem to touch people. Uh, it's, uh, my,
Starting point is 01:34:41 my world has ended a few times in a lot of ways and, uh, talking about some of the dramas, not talking about some of the, I mean, I'm nine months on the wagon right now. So it was like, how many years were you involved in this experience? 12 years working. And right now, six years on the road, teaching, training, and stuff like that. So it's been a road. Before we move on, I have to ask you, do you think that the reason that some of these
Starting point is 01:35:08 military members and police officers use this symbol of Santa Muerte is because it takes some of the guilt of killing other people off of them? It is definitely, yes. They have dispensation. So in a place where the government doesn't really have your back and there is no realistic – so like in the U.S., you go off and fight for your country. And you get back and sometimes you get flagged, waves on you.
Starting point is 01:35:35 You get – if you wear a uniform, you fly. You can fly for a discount or for free and you get preferential treatment if you're a veteran and stuff like that. There's no such thing in Mexico. You get spit on oh what do you do like i did what i did for a living for a long time for my family because it's something to be ashamed of so uh so there's no concept of a veteran in mexico right uh although it's it's clearly a giant war that we just went that we're currently still going through. So if you don't have any support, if you don't have any,
Starting point is 01:36:14 I learned about post-traumatic stress when I came to this country. I didn't know what that was. That's the level of just abandonment that people have down there. Wow. So I think part of that is that, just seeking some sort of comfort or some sort of backing in something that is as dark and or as light as a death deity. You know, that's what I think that's a big reason why some of that is so popular and prevalent down there. Interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:37 All right. John Doe says it costs $2,500 for a U-Haul from Maryland to Florida, but only $600 for a U-Haul from Florida to Maryland. They claim supply and demand. Well, see, it's really simple. If you're in Maryland, there's probably no trucks because everybody's fleeing. If you're in Florida, there's a ton of trucks. Because nobody's leaving. Because everybody's fleeing to Florida.
Starting point is 01:37:01 So if you want to go back, it actually works out really well for them because you're basically doing them a service, bringing the truck back. Otherwise, they got to go pick the truck up and then bring them back. So yeah, it costs more money. How about that? All right, here's a good one. Jason Bryan says, did Dim Fool talk about the Arizona audit yet? No, we didn't. Why? It just came out.
Starting point is 01:37:20 So, you know, I often wondered to myself, I'm like, there's a lot of people who jump the gun on stories and then get them wrong. And I'm like, this thing was to myself, I'm like, there's a lot of people who jump the gun on stories and then get them wrong. And I'm like, this thing was like announced, I think, like 4 p.m. And there's like no way I'd have enough time to go through what they said to talk about it on a show. But, you know, I'll tell you this. The other night, a whole bunch of stories emerge where they said the Arizona audit confirms Joe Biden won. OK, they didn't actually even see the audit when they wrote those stories. And that's the important detail because I'm pretty sure the audits don't actually make
Starting point is 01:37:54 any strong assertion like that. What, what, what there is something going around. It's showing a list of like, um, failure rates, basically like duplicate votes or things like that. So there's a lot to go through. I have not fact-checked any of it. And by the time we're going to do a show on a Friday night, there's just... Look, I got to tell you guys, the worst possible day to release information like this is on a Friday.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Like everyone's tuned out. View counts are always way down. Honestly, I don't get it. And then they give the media an opportunity to preempt them on a Thursday, which is not a good day, but not a Friday. It's better than a Saturday, I guess. But seriously, a Friday evening is when you publish news to die. So I'll look into it and I'm going to go through all of it.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Absolutely. And I got to tell you, I think it's a lot of what we heard from Matt Brainerd. Check out the members only segments at TimCast.com and then we'll see what we can get to in those when we break it down. All right. Montana Linderman says, Today is my birthday and I'm stuck at work, but at least I have Tim and everyone to listen to.
Starting point is 01:38:50 I watch you guys every night. You guys are amazing. Montana, thank you for your super chat. And thanks for watching and listening to the show. Happy birthday. You know, it's just we look at cameras and we talk about stuff. Sam Finley says, Ed Calderon makesames bond look like a punk
Starting point is 01:39:05 all right let's see trevor cameron says tim gonna play some more dnd does the dm have a hard time keeping track of initiative check out my kickstarter and fb deck of heroes and fiends october 1st well all right then yes we do plan on playing uh dnd all right let's see a lot of people want me to talk about the arizona audit and uh you know obviously there's a bunch of super chats throughout the show being like talk about it talk about it talk about it it's like i have to go through it and fact check it. Here's the thing. With a lot of stories like Afghanistan, initially my assessment is based on preliminary reports.
Starting point is 01:39:54 And then it turns out I didn't realize in the start of the Afghanistan withdrawal that we abandoned Bagram the way we did. So my assessment was changed. And I was like, wait a minute. I read this Wall Street Journal article. Look what they're doing. Here's the challenge with the AZ audit. As you probably already know, the mainstream media is not going to do a fair assessment of what the details are, which means this is one of the stories along with many other that we actually have to have
Starting point is 01:40:16 our crew dig into and we're going to do it. We're going to, we're going to look into it. Um, that being said, my opinion is you want to, we want to know the easiest way to make sure a Republican never wins again is convince them all you can't win. And then they don't go out and vote. So you've got Democrats going door to door. Look at it this way. New York City. How many people live on one city block in New York City? A lot.
Starting point is 01:40:41 10,000, I guess. Now, the same distance in a rural county, how many people live in that same distance? One? Yeah. Two. So when you're in New York and you've got universal mail-in voting, and two little Democratic activists can say, we're going to spend an hour on one city block, they can talk to 1,000 people.
Starting point is 01:41:00 If a Republican wants to go to a suburban area, one city block is going to get them, what, 25? So with universal mail-in voting, denser population areas are substantially easier for voter turnout drives. They knock on the door, did you vote yet? You didn't? There it is, fill it out, have a nice day. Did you vote yet?
Starting point is 01:41:18 Republicans doing it? Serious disadvantages. So I think you've got to focus on your ground game, your organizational powers. And I'll tell you this. Whatever may be going on here, I think it's demoralizing people. I think the audits are great. I think do investigations build the trust.
Starting point is 01:41:33 But, man, do conservatives need to get their ground game going and libertarians, to be honest. Democrats have ground game, dude. They know how to go door to door, and they have the advantage of population density. I think that plays the biggest role. And that's exactly why there was such a major push for universal mail-in voting. It's overt. That's why they were screaming when they said Donald Trump was stealing mailboxes, because that is what gives them their major advantage. And it's not breaking the rules.
Starting point is 01:41:56 It's like the law was changed for universal mail-in voting. I had a friend that did work the Obama campaign in 2000, I think 12. And he said it was so incredibly organized and effective. And then he worked the Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. He said it was terrible. So I have a feeling it's not just Democrats. It's this establishment. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:42:12 They know how to run a machine. And the establishment Republicans don't want Trump or the populists. So they're like, it's all you. And it's much more difficult. All right. Immediate Casualty Care says, Perfect guest for the topic at hand, as well as a guy to learn from when it goes wrong. Ed was kind enough to do an IG review of our low-profile trauma kits,
Starting point is 01:42:34 asking for nothing in return. A good man who knows all things. Bad guy. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. What is that? It's a low-profile way to carry around medical equipment with you.
Starting point is 01:42:45 I mean, it's a scary time,ile way to carry around medical equipment with you. Yeah. I mean, it's a scary time, and I'm not, you know, fear-mongering, but it's a pretty good idea to have at least some basic knowledge and base and materials to stop somebody from bleeding out. We have, like, 30 medical kits here. We had, like, six, and I was like, Tim, can we get two more? And you bought, like, 20. I was like, yeah, that's a good idea.
Starting point is 01:43:02 Let's pass them out if we need to. 30 employees. We've got multiple acres, yeah, that's a good idea. Well, let's pass them out if we need to. 30 employees. We've got multiple acres. Animals. It's, it's, it's not, it's a,
Starting point is 01:43:09 it's a weird thing. Like it's, people want to go and shoot guns and, and train how to fight with knives and do all this stuff, but they don't want to learn how to plug holes. Or, or like every now and then I do training related to counter abduction and everybody's like,
Starting point is 01:43:24 we're never going to learn how to get a handcuffs. That's coming. But first we need to talk about Narcan. Right. And first we need to talk about roofies and how to flush your system and how some, why chemical restraints are a thing. So you do a hostile environment training,
Starting point is 01:43:38 stuff like that. Yeah. Non-permissive environment training is what I got. What it's called. I didn't name it that. That's what the first people that I started training name it that that's what that's the first people that I started training here in the states I thought that's non-permissive environments training okay do you ever get these like really arrogant people who are just like they think they
Starting point is 01:43:53 know more than you they think they're hot stuff and they're gonna survive the apocalypse I well you know I get all types I get the some people that are preppers that prep but they they can't you know run a mile yeah yep I get the people that are preppers that prep, but they can't run a mile. Yep. I get the people that are really worried about COVID and they want to wear a gas mask when they go outside, but they would just take some vitamins and eat healthy and just run
Starting point is 01:44:15 a bit. A little bit of that might help you. I get all types. I did a hostile environment training and it was for insurance purposes. They made me do it. Of course. But I've actually been on the ground in a bunch of civil unrest, environment training, and it was for insurance purposes. They made me do it. Of course. But I've actually – I'd actually been on the ground in a bunch of civil unrest, civil conflict, and – like I was in Ukraine before it erupted into like the separatist fighting. I was in Venezuela, which was like probably the scariest where I had to flee the country. And so they made me do this training, and there was like a weather guy there who was like trying to give advice to people.
Starting point is 01:44:43 And I'm just like, weather man, you can't tell this woman what she's going to do when she gets abducted and there's landmines. I'm sorry. You have no idea what you're talking about. One of the things that I kind of struggle with, a lot of the stuff that I do is like I didn't go through SEER training or I wasn't part of the American military. A lot of my teachers were like the first person I saw get out of handcuffs and teach me how to get out of handcuffs was a 15-year-old kid that was a meth dealer. Right? The first person I saw that showed me how to, you know, make something to cut through zip ties with a Kevlar cordage was a fisherman.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Was that when you were a kid, when you were younger? No, just working and meeting weird people. One of the things that I find, like, the most find the most off-putting is people not realizing the teachers are all around us and they're not all going to wear a green beret and have been a military guy or something like that. Most of the people that know and study the craft of getting around things are criminals. Those are the best conversations to have.
Starting point is 01:45:40 And if I go to do a class and I start talking about bribing a public official, and Americans start getting like, you can do that? Yeah. Yeah, you can. They don't get it, man. They don't get it. We got scruples here. Normal is a fluid concept.
Starting point is 01:45:56 True that. And you can't travel with your normal. That's the first red pill I give people. Yeah. Yeah, man. Egypt is certainly crazy uh just like when i try talking to i'll tell you this here's a challenge in the united states when i was doing the heat training hostile environment stuff uh someone asked the guy running the course if
Starting point is 01:46:19 women should be worried about sexual assault and his reaction was to stutter and go men can get raped yes uh men it's like uh dude see this is the problem in america they can't say certain things because they get sued for harassment or or treating people you know not like you know not like for violating people's uh rights i guess when sensibilities yeah when you say like there's a reality of that women, a guy will get killed and a woman will get raped, when you're dealing with a lot of these places around the world. And then when I have to deal with stuff like being in Egypt,
Starting point is 01:46:53 what the security company is going to allow a woman to do versus what they're going to allow a man to do, you'd probably have every feminist in this country screaming, it's not fair. There was a story about, I could be getting this wrong, so just keep that in mind. A reporter with Vice was out i think in algeria and she was told not to go to the soccer stadium because women aren't allowed and she said i'm going to do it anyway and she got
Starting point is 01:47:14 assaulted and then sued vice over it even though the security people are like you can't do that yeah but these there are these people who think that algeria is going to be like america yeah and they don't realize like you walk in the wrong neighborhood and they should be like that's a beaten yeah they don't realize that. And they don't realize you walk into the wrong neighborhood and they should be like, that's a beating. They don't realize that in Egypt, it's like you walk into the wrong neighborhood and you're not covered up and you're not here with your man, you're in trouble. Normal is a fluid concept. You can't travel with your
Starting point is 01:47:36 normal. You can't travel with your Bill of Rights. That's an amazing thing. Also, seeing Americans in Mexico doing like, oh yeah, just this guy tried to push me in a van and I just stabbed him in the face. I'm just going to wait for the police here. Like that guy was probably a cop. What do you recommend?
Starting point is 01:47:53 Go to the embassy or flee. Right away. Not being allowed to, not being able to are two different things. Outside of the United States, I mean, females during training, like I do restraints for handcuffs, zip ties, duct tape, show people how to get out of that and also how to manage some of that stuff. Women always get more on them because they're going to get it the worst. Yep. That's my way of treating them differently. Now, to be fair, though, we did in our training do a scenario where we got surrounded at gunpoint and all the women were brought into a barn.
Starting point is 01:48:29 And then the trainers told the women to start screaming, you know, bloody murder. And then the guys outside are laughing, saying, I think you know what we're doing and stuff like that, because he was trying to make that point. So it wasn't all overtly like, you know, trying to avoid the realities of these things. We talked about basic natural rights in the United States. Do you have that in Mexico? Yeah, but there's nobody to enforce them. So they don't exist really?
Starting point is 01:48:51 I mean, human rights are a thing in Mexico, but usually they only involve people that have enough money to kind of put them on their side. We support a small media group that we work with called Demoler. It's on Instagram if you want to check it out. Basically just cartel-related news out of Mexico, and it's all verified by myself and other people that work around it. There's a guy that stole a few candy bars from the store
Starting point is 01:49:17 and got placed into a process, a legal process, for three candy bars, a very lengthy one. Wow. And in the same vein, there's a police commander that was involved in the massacre of 135 people or something like that that is currently, you know, he just had to lawyer it up and there's no problem. Right? And we did this comparison. If you have enough money, if you have an influence to the law, so the man are down there,
Starting point is 01:49:42 and rights are a thing to the side. You can own a gun in Mexico if you're upper middle class. There's one gun store in Mexico. Wow. One gun store in Mexico? It's a single gun store in Mexico City. And the only way you can buy one is you have to fly there. Wow.
Starting point is 01:49:57 You get a bunch of paperwork and buy an overpriced, underpowered caliber to be able to defend yourself. Like what? Like a.22? Let's say a.380. A.380. That's not bad. You can't get a 9mm down there. That's military only.
Starting point is 01:50:13 Yeah. So, yeah, low calibers, horrible, horrible quality guns, and they're all, it's a monopoly run by the military down there. And they're in their best interest not to arm people, so they make it really hard. Speaking of guns, DW says, Tim, did you see Matt Gaetz voted yes on red flag laws? To a or bust. Sorry, Matt, you're no longer MAGA.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Also, SaveAmericaChat.com is number one for America First discussion. I'm going to look into that because that is a big no-no. Red flag laws are bad, bad, bad news. They do not work the way people think they do. And if Matt Gates voted yes on this, it's exactly the problem we have with Republicans. That's why I think the Republican Party is garbage.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Now, you want to look that up? Yeah, I'm looking it up. Because I'll right now be like, that's dumb. So you guys are familiar with red flag laws? I am. One day you're at home, and you get a knock on the door, and it's a bunch of cops being like, we're here to seize your firearms, your weapons.
Starting point is 01:51:08 And you're like, says who? Says this warrant? What are you talking about? Well, you're a danger to yourself or others, so they're ours now. Now, that's not what 2A says. So the problem is you get no chance to rebut for the most part. If they came to you and said,
Starting point is 01:51:20 we are going to make an attempt at a seizure, you have 30 days you know here's your court date or whatever still bad in my opinion because it puts the burden on the on the individual who has the right to keep and bear arms but at the very least you'd be able to go to the court and be like no it's not true someone's made a false claim against me and i will not stand for this but these these things end bloody yeah you're guilty someone gets a medical marijuana card and now they're no longer mentally safe someone j marijuana card and now they're no longer mentally stable. Someone jaywalks, now they're no longer mentally stable. Like, no.
Starting point is 01:51:47 No, this is, they show up to a guy's house, knock on the door, then the guy answers the door with his gun, which he legally owns, and they say, we're taking your guns. And he says, yeah, for my cold, dead hands or whatever. They fought and the cops killed the guy. That didn't need to happen. This is not a good idea to go to Americans who are like
Starting point is 01:52:04 my cold, dead hands and instigate that kind of thing. And that's what you get. You get Republicans whose position is, I'll compromise Democrats, and Democrats say, give me everything or else. So instead of Republicans being like, we want to repeal the NFA and all gun restrictions, they say, we're okay with some gun control. And then you end up moving further and further into the gun control territory. As somebody that's not from here, I'm from Mexico, of course, and there's no, there's a part in the Constitution
Starting point is 01:52:34 that allows for the possession and self-defense with guns in Mexico, but there's a single federal firearms law that just, that's what deals with everything, everything firearms- firearms in Mexico. You're not legally allowed to buy a gun outside of the normal processes, but everybody has guns down there. You know, New Year happens and everybody's shooting guns up in the air.
Starting point is 01:52:55 What's the, oh, you know, but main thing is, I've been in places where having a gun is the difference between being targeted and not being targeted. I've been in places where everybody that has guns or having guns illegally, they're all criminals because they have a gun. But if they drop their guns, if they get rid of their guns, cartels are going to run in and take their daughters. Right. There's a city Luke talks about. Do you remember? Sharon.
Starting point is 01:53:21 Sharon, where there's no police, there's no cartels. They kicked out the police because the cartels were on the take. Right. And they armed themselves. There's a problem with some of these groups down there. Like, there was a Netflix documentary on one of these auto-defense groups that came up during the mid-2000s. They're basically cartel groups that now are being, guarding home, you know. They just switched, you know, t-shirts. Oh, and Chiron. Let me, well, let me, let me. Some of these groups. We are being guarding home. They just switched
Starting point is 01:53:45 t-shirts. Oh, and Sharon. Some of these groups. We got a super chat. Smashing Random Keys says, how does Sharon still exist? How was it even allowed to happen? It's a very small community and a lot of the weapons that they have are not the best weapons.
Starting point is 01:54:02 A lot of them were stolen from the local police armory and a lot of them are just hunting rifles or things that have been trafficked there decades ago. The reason they're being left alone is it's too much of a hassle, and also they're too much in the public eye right now. So why mess with them? But eventually
Starting point is 01:54:17 they'll drop out of the public eye and influence will start seeping in. How they usually kill these groups is that they can't self-sustain. What happens when a bunch of extremely wealthy Bitcoin ANCAPs start sending resources so they can self-sustain? Oh, that would be amazing. Well, that's what we're hearing a lot of.
Starting point is 01:54:37 So when this went down, you have a lot of people who are like Bitcoin millionaire ANCAPs who are like, anarchy, freedom, no cartels, no government? I'm their baby. And they're bringing their resources. They're bringing guns. They're bringing security. I mean, that's one way. Another way is basically just televising the revolution, giving them eyes. One of the main problems that these communities have is that they don't have eyes. They don't have a way to cast out their story, their reality. I get bombarded with pictures, videos, and stuff like that from all over mexico and they say dude ed please post this i was like where's this from this is from here okay just give me enough i'll send it to them all there or i sent it to or i posted myself the main thing is that
Starting point is 01:55:21 news coverage down there doesn't want to put it up because it goes against the government and that's not that's not good. And up here, they don't care unless it's like something specifically related or tied to the U.S. So the main thing is giving these people voices. Give these people the ability to tell their own stories and televise a revolution. If they can figure that out, getting them guns, getting them bullets is only going to push them so far. Really Now says, I have been to 20 different countries. Listening to you talk about racism is accurate.
Starting point is 01:55:54 I have never experienced racism more than in Europe. Definitely, I'd say so. Particularly, I really, people probably don't want to believe it, but Sweden, man. No joke. I go to somewhere like France or the UK and it's like, okay, there's racism. No, you go to Sweden and it's like extremely ethnically homogenous. They pretend to not be racist, but boy, are they racist. I'm telling you, man, I'm like in a car with a guy driving into a black neighborhood and he's shaking and freaking out being like, don't make me do this, man. And we're like, calm down. What are you doing? We walk around the neighborhood and he's shaking and freaking out being like don't make me do this man and we're like calm down what are you doing we walk around the neighborhood i think it's fine
Starting point is 01:56:28 or it's like i should i should say like these migrant areas a lot of muslims a lot of somalis and we walk around it was like there's there's nothing going on man like go to chicago that guy would fall to the ground and melt into a pile of jelly if you went to chicago but it's it's it's it's crazy to me but it's not just about stuff like that. It's about how they don't hire people. They shuffle them into these pocket communities where they force them to fend for themselves. And then it's just brutal, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:53 I mean, again, I've had some weird experiences here in the States that are not specifically, I mean, just uncomfortable now. Like someone in Tennessee, somebody asked me if I was a Christian. And I said, yeah, I'm Catholic. He said, you're not a Christian. You're not one okay and i said you know i i took it with humor because
Starting point is 01:57:11 it's humorous to me you know uh but realistically a lot of the specific hate that i've gotten in this country or life specific like discrimination has been by some of the members of my own community mexicans second generation third generation people that call themselves latinx for some reason yeah i was like okay latinx you know i wonder if edith gets mad when you say those things i mean it's do they i have to know yeah i mean it's it's uh it's a whole thing we're like swearing the whole time yeah you just you just talk you – you're talking bad about Mexico. Mexico is a beautiful place.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Like what parts of Mexico did you live in? Yeah. Well, I go down there to Cancun and go there. It's like that's – you know. Mexico City is nice. Mexico City is nice. It's beautiful. There's a lot of stuff that happens in Mexico City.
Starting point is 01:58:00 There's – you know, and outside – the outskirts of Mexico City, there's some pretty – you know, the Catepec people listening to this that can tell me about some of the places out there that are pretty, you know, a lot of bad stuff happened. Yes, there's some beautiful places, there's some beautiful people, and I'm not, I don't, I'm not in a fight with the people of Mexico, and I love the people of Mexico. Part of me doing this and the stuff that I do is try and give them voices and telling stories about stuff that happens down there. But most of the hate that I got up here has been people that are completely detached from that reality. So talking to the dad who is from Mexico, like, what's the first thing you did when you got to this country? I bought a gun.
Starting point is 01:58:42 That's okay. And then you talk to his grandson. What about you? Oh, my dad's great. He has a gun. That's okay. And then you talk to his grandson. What about you? Oh, my dad's great. He has a gun. It's like, oh, guns kill people. Are you like, that's scary, right? Aren't you afraid that people are carrying guns up here?
Starting point is 01:58:55 Like, they have guns down there. It's like, is that a foot in the hole? Like, that's a beautiful thing, you know? Yeah. Do the cartels 3D print weapons? No. The reason I ask is because you said in 2008 they were using these advanced technology drones.
Starting point is 01:59:08 I'm wondering if they're... I haven't seen 3D print. It doesn't make sense for them. I've seen them being utilized a lot in Europe and stuff like that. Myanmar, I think, has some sub-guns showing up 3D printed. Mexico, it has the largest commerce of
Starting point is 01:59:25 firearms in the world next to it. The government in Mexico just sued a bunch of the firearms companies stateside because of the guns that are being trafficked. Mysteriously enough, they didn't sue Sig Sauer because
Starting point is 01:59:41 they're trying to buy guns for the military. I always tell people when they're like, aren't you scared when you go to these countries like i haven't traveled in a while but i used to fly i was on two planes a week and i'd be like no because people aren't crazy you know this idea that you you have got like kind of two camps of people you've got these people who think they can ride their bikes to tajikistan and it's going to be fine and then they get hit and then is jumps out and kills them. It literally happened. And then you have people who think you'll go to South America and they'll drag you through the streets and brutally beat you. And I'm like, yo, so some people believe stupid things and it drives them to do something.
Starting point is 02:00:17 But it's not like their behavior isn't predictable. What I mean is if you're going to an area where you know ISIS is dominant and you know what their ideology is and you know what they're looking for, okay, well, then you're probably going to be watching for that and you got to be careful. But I was like – especially with going to like Venezuela and Brazil, South America stuff, I'm like I know what – a general idea of these people's motives, especially when it comes to like gangs, cartels, making money, running a business. You don't interfere. You don't bother them. You mind your own business. You're't interfere. You don't bother them. You mind your own business. You're probably fine. My favorite, though, is when we were in Venezuela and they told
Starting point is 02:00:47 me a very common thing. One of the most common things is express kidnappings. They'll pull up. They'll throw you in. They'll drive you to an ATM, say, take out your money, and then they'll ditch you or whatever. One guy told me a story where he got express kidnapped and the guys are armed. They're putting a gun at him and they're like,
Starting point is 02:01:03 they, you know,'re driving to an ATM. They're like, take out all the money. And he's like, I only have a couple hundred, whatever. And then they're like, take it out. They take it out and they're like, get in the car. And he's like, okay. And they're like, do you want a ride, man? Is there somewhere we can drop you off?
Starting point is 02:01:16 He's like, yeah, I got to go to work. And they're like, yeah, no problem. Let's know where – he's like, yeah, it's around here. Thanks, man. And they're like, all right, have a good one, dude. Like it's the craziest story. You think that like – but after they get their money, they're just like, we'll drop you off now. Yeah. Hope everything is all right have a good one dude like it's the craziest story you know you think that like but after they get their money they're just like we'll drop you off now yeah hope everything's all right it's a it's a thing i mean these it's a business it's a business it's a they're human as
Starting point is 02:01:33 well uh i had this guy who was a cardiologist he got abducted uh he spent like two months in and they did horrible things to him you, basically he wanted to convince his family to pay up. When he was let go, he was let go because we did something and we found where he was being kept, and we encountered the people that were holding him. When we were debriefing him, he kept asking about the people that were watching him because he was worried about them. Because these people, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:08 weren't specifically the ones responsible for abducting him, but they weren't responsible to look out for him when he was in this dog kennel that they had set up for him. And he was like, hey, are they okay? Like, are they fine? Like, I was like, what? And they caught Stockholm Syndrome, basically. They? Like, like I was like, what? And I got Stockholm syndrome basically. Uh,
Starting point is 02:02:27 they weren't fine. None of them were fine. And he went into a weird depression because of some of the stuff that happened to them. Like it's a weird, and again, yeah, it's stories like that are,
Starting point is 02:02:38 you know, uh, there's, there's, my mom told me this long ago and it kind of made things clearer for me. Uh, nobody's against you. They're for themselves. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:02:48 When you learn that – This is basically what I mean when I say people are crazy. I'm trying to explain this to them. If you know what they're doing and why they're doing it, then it's like they're not going to randomly do things for the most part. They don't want to put risks themselves. They want to get something out of you so understand the motives of the person to the best of your ability and then try and navigate the situations and that means you might like i had someone try to pickpocket me in spain they didn't succeed but i'm not about to pick a fight with the guy who's
Starting point is 02:03:17 probably got friends around the corner operating as their backup he comes up tries to grab my phone fails and then i just back away and avoid the situation. Because what they do is they'll have someone waiting around the corner or someone sitting down who's their spotter in case a fight breaks out, then they jump you. So it's like he failed. It's better that he's like, my risk is too high right now. I'm going to walk. And I'm like, and I'm not going to get into a fight with him.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Yeah. Part of that normal is a fluid concept. The lesson that I give people is I can walk around here with my iPhone, but somewhere else that's going to be a meal for a few weeks for somebody. I can walk around here with my earring, but go to Brazil and it's going to rip off your ear. Don't be a resource. Check yourself. Make a travel debit card with a prepaid travel debit card.
Starting point is 02:04:04 Carry a travel phone. Carry a burner phone that you can give out to somebody. Just give out as a gift. Every now and then I do security contracting jobs, and the first thing I do is I go to the parking attendant, go to the major D, or go to the guy that knows everything, and I give him a phone, a smartphone that's worth probably like $150 or $200 on eBay. And I get the best intel on the planet there. I just call him directly.
Starting point is 02:04:30 When I'm done, you can keep the phone. Really? Yeah. Yes. Key to the city. Yeah, dude. But again, it's weird to tell people like, Ed, so what can I make to defend myself?
Starting point is 02:04:44 Buy a phone, give it to somebody there, make a friend. Yeah. Friends. There you go. I love it. somebody there, make a friend. Yeah. Friends. I love it. Invest in people. Yep. All right, right on, man.
Starting point is 02:04:49 Well, it's been rad having you. For everybody else, thanks for hanging out on this Friday night. Smash that like button, subscribe. You can follow me at TimCast. You can follow the show
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Starting point is 02:05:10 I can't say too much. We just got to go film it first. But, Ed, is there anything else you want to shout out? Website, book, Twitter? Check out my Instagram, edmanifesto.com, and check out our new source, Demo Lair, on Instagram. Demo Lair? Demo Lair. Thanks for coming, man. That was great.
Starting point is 02:05:25 Thank you. Love you, Ed. That was really, really fun, man. Thanks. Thank you. Lydia? Oh, I'm Ian Crawson, by the way. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:30 I was going to say, are you talking to me right? It's all about Ed, man. Yeah, there we go. Okay, yeah. Now that we know who Ian is. I really appreciate Ed coming a lot. I feel like I learned so much, and I'm going to have to go back and watch your different appearances on Joe Rogan as well.
Starting point is 02:05:42 I am Sarah Patch Lids. I push buttons in the corner for a living. Thank you guys for coming. Man, it's been great. I think I'll have to, you know, I'll never forget that Joe blew that death whistle
Starting point is 02:05:52 and it's all his fault. That's it. Yeah, can someone get him on the horn? Yeah. Joe, what have you done? But hey man, it's been a blast
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